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[00:11] *vallor (~Ponzo@pdpc/supporter/monthlygold/vallor) has joined #techrights [00:13] techrights-bot Suppressed Facts of the #FreeSoftware Movement and Its Community of Volunteers Part II: Why Bradley Kuhn Left the Free Software Foundation ( @FSF ) http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/why-bradley-kuhn-left/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers Part II: Why Bradley Kuhn Left the Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Techrights [00:16] techrights-bot #gnu "libsigsegv version 2.13 is released." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9918 #freesw [00:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | libsigsegv - News: libsigsegv 2.13 is released [Savannah] [00:17] techrights-bot The founder of the #FSF is still at the @FSF (albeit not publicly) and the person who lobbied to oust him has basically been banished by the founder http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/why-bradley-kuhn-left/ [00:17] psydroid https://www.imaginationtech.com/blog/back-in-the-high-performance-game/ [00:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imaginationtech.com | Back in the high-performance game - Imagination [00:19] schestowitz "we were debating whether to promote the more cloud and desktop-focused cores." [00:19] schestowitz psydroid: clown cores [00:19] schestowitz whatzdat? [00:19] schestowitz do they perform better in high humidity conditions? [00:20] schestowitz "your next computer will have operating conditions inclusive of the steam room" [00:20] psydroid schestowitz, Imagination Technologies partnering up with companies to bring GPUs with their chips back to the desktop, presumably with free drivers this time around [00:21] schestowitz Phoronix used to write about them [00:21] MinceR i hope they fail [00:21] schestowitz I dislike them [00:21] MinceR they deserve to fail for what they've done [00:21] schestowitz based on what I read from Micahel [00:21] schestowitz Larabel, sorry typo [00:23] psydroid I met this guy from Imagination Technologies at the SiFive event a year and a half ago and I was like "wait and see" after hearing, but not actually having experienced, what they did with PowerVR before [00:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.68 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 16.35 ● Jan 17 [01:27] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:27] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [01:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 14.50 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.26 [01:46] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [01:50] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:50] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Jan 17 [02:28] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [02:28] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [02:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 14.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.08 [02:34] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [02:35] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [02:41] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. 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[02:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, January 16, 2021 [02:43] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-16.txt ● Jan 17 [03:00] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 41 GB TotalOut: 19 GB [03:00] techrights-ipfs New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID: [03:01] techrights-ipfs QmXK45ZkNzmfaWKtv9auyweDqj1q6pTDo32FGzq8Wr5ibj [03:01] psydroid https://www.extremetech.com/computing/319187-new-beagle-board-offers-dual-core-risc-v-targets-ai-applications [03:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Beagle Board Offers Dual-Core RISC-V, Targets AI Applications - ExtremeTech [03:03] psydroid it mentions an updated version of the SoC with 4 cores instead of 2 for the second version of the board with the Imagination GPU [03:08] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:09] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [03:14] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.66 [03:36] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:39] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Call-out culture is toxic, disgusting, and vile!) 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[04:40] DaemonFC[m] For a few months after the riots, they locked people out from changing their policies. [04:46] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [04:47] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [04:50] DaemonFC[m] https://jalopnik.com/audis-hilarious-unintentional-goatse-billboard-5794908 [04:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jalopnik.com | Audi's hilarious unintentional Goatse billboard ● Jan 17 [05:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.70 [05:52] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: I thought they had disappeared like a decade back [05:53] *tr_guest|47179 (4959b343@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.89.179.67) has joined #techrights [05:55] *tr_guest|47179 has quit (Client Quit) [05:57] schestowitz http://groklaw.net/ is back online! [05:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth [05:59] schestowitz But without the comments http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20130815114627670&title=NSA+broke+privacy+rules%3A+WaPo+spiked+NSA%92s+director+of+compliance+90+min.+interview+with+Gellman&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=1057128#c1057292 [05:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20130815114627670&title=NSA+broke+privacy+rules%3A+WaPo+spiked+NSA%92s+director+of+compliance+90+min.+interview+with+Gellman&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=1057128#c1057292 ) [05:59] schestowitz it is cached ● Jan 17 [06:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.33 [06:40] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1232738-freebsd-continues-work-on-ridding-its-base-of-gpl-licensed-software [06:40] schestowitz " [06:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeBSD Continues Work On Ridding Its Base Of GPL-Licensed Software - Phoronix Forums [06:40] schestowitz > Ridding Its Base Of GPL-Licensed Software [06:40] schestowitz > moving from Subversion to Git [06:40] schestowitz LOL [06:40] schestowitz " [06:41] schestowitz "let kill GNU in the process while we are at it" [06:41] schestowitz "This is the last thing they should care about IMO. The OS is on brink of irrelevancy and they blunder about with 30 year old licensing flame war issues. I used to really love freeBSD back in the 2000s but they were already kinda stuck in the past back then. Never looked back since I found Arch." [06:42] schestowitz "Even BSD trolls are gone." ● Jan 17 [07:01] schestowitz Ariadne: "In short it is necessary to update your IT Disaster Recovery Plan if you are relying on resources physically based in the United States, I think. Nobody is quite sure what exactly is coming down the pike. " [07:01] schestowitz http://coyote.works//posts/EarlySunday20210117/ [07:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coyote.works | Considering Preparedness [07:26] *Livestradamus has quit (Quit: I'm out.) 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[08:56] techrights-bot #VPN Providers with Custom Clients for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146566 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VPN Providers with Custom Clients for Linux | Tux Machines [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [08:56] techrights-bot "I predicted that IBM would dump a big division and essentially remake itself as Red Hat, its Linux company. Well yes and no." https://www.cringely.com/2021/01/15/bobs-2021-tech-predictions-what-a-difference-a-pandemic-makes/ [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bobs 2021 Tech Predictions: What a Difference a Pandemic Makes | I, Cringely [08:56] Techrights-sec I have scripts turned off. 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[08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth [08:59] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, January 16, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [08:59] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index ● Jan 17 [09:01] techrights-bot 4 big lessons from my internship with #freeSW http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146568 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 big lessons from my internship with open source | Tux Machines [09:02] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146569 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:03] techrights-bot After #Parler #Google Targets Blockchain-based Free Speech Social Network #Minds http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146565 [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | After Parler, Google Targets Blockchain-based Free Speech Social Network Minds | Tux Machines [09:04] techrights-bot Misusing buzzwords as propaganda for illegal #softwarepatents at the rogue #EPO ttps://www.itproportal.com/features/patenting-ai-and-protecting-intellectual-property/ #swpats [09:04] techrights-bot "patent as granted appeared doubtful, as the patent had been upheld only in amended form by the European Patent Office (EPO) Opposition Division, with an appeal pending. [...] court dismissed Sanofi's preliminary injunction request again" https://www.internationallawoffice.com/Newsletters/Intellectual-Property/Spain/Grau-Angulo/Second-preliminary-injunction-request-based-on-amended-form-of-patent-dismissed [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.internationallawoffice.com | Second preliminary injunction request based on amended form of patent dismissed - Newsletters - International Law Office [09:05] techrights-bot Companies that bet on #patents rather than products https://www.indiainfoline.com/article/news-top-story/trident-stocks-gains-2-on-patent-grant-for-fabric-and-method-of-manufacturing-by-epo-121011500393_1.html [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indiainfoline.com | Trident stocks gains 2% on patent grant for 'Fabric and Method of Manufacturing' by EPO [09:05] techrights-bot " #Daimler responded by challenging the validity of the #Nokia patents at the #EPO and at the German Federal Patent Court." @fosspatents https://www.worldipreview.com/news/nokia-draws-first-blood-in-daimler-validity-battle-20587 [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldipreview.com | Nokia draws first blood in Daimler validity battle [09:05] techrights-bot Mesa's Lima Driver Finally Implements OpenGL Shader Cache Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-Lima-Shader-Cache #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa's Lima Driver Finally Implements OpenGL Shader Cache Support - Phoronix [09:06] techrights-bot Highly disturbing to see bribed Sen. #ChrisCoons (D-DE), Sen. #ThomTillis (R-NC), and #USPTO Director Andre #Iancu in the same room/forum lobbying for patent maximalism as if the #patent office is, by proxy, controlled by litigation fanatics/profiteers rather than science, using bribes https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/gipc-inta-ipo-online-event-on-american-innovation.html [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: GIPC, INTA & IPO Online Event on American Innovation [09:06] techrights-bot "The OS is on brink of irrelevancy and they blunder about with 30 year old licensing flame war issues. I used to really love #freeBSD back in the 2000s but they were already kinda stuck in the past back then. Never looked back since I found Arch." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1232738-freebsd-continues-work-on-ridding-its-base-of-gpl-licensed-software/page2 [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeBSD Continues Work On Ridding Its Base Of GPL-Licensed Software - Phoronix Forums [09:07] techrights-bot "I presented what I learnt about #nodejs packaging in Debian. This time, I started using #Emacs for presentation, presenting PDF file. This week I switched most of my login shells to emacsclient, and experimenting." http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2021-Jan-17.html.en#2021-Jan-17-10:39:44 [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netfort.gr.jp | Yesterday was our monthly Debian meeting. 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And where else is it really relevant anymore? Does it even still work on real x86 hardware? [11:18] techrights-bot "There is no end to my amazement of the openSUSE community. They do such a fantastic job of making a wonderful distribution with all the tools that keep me productive." https://cubiclenate.com/2021/01/16/opensuse-smiles/ [11:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openSUSE Smiles CubicleNate's Techpad [11:18] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 16, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/irc-log-160121/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [11:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 16, 2021 | Techrights [11:18] techrights-bot #clinicalTrials #safety #efficacy https://assets.amuniversal.com/55ffd49027a501393db0005056a9545d https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-01-17 #dilbert [11:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vaccine - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2021-01-17 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [11:24] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [11:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.23 [11:40] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [11:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:44] schestowitz psydroid: want to help with next Intel part? [11:44] schestowitz I drafted the main text and the video is ready [11:44] schestowitz I'm sure you may have stories to tell about what's shown there [11:46] psydroid schestowitz: sure, let me do it now before I head off for some time [11:48] schestowitz psydroid: http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-testing-with-windows/ [11:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XVII: The High Cost of Microsoft Windows Users in GNU/Linux Development Teams | Techrights [11:48] schestowitz very roughly drafted as yet [11:51] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:53] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:54] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [11:56] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XVII: The High Cost of #Microsoft #Windows Users in #GNU / #Linux Development Teams http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-testing-with-windows/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [11:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights ● Jan 17 [12:05] techrights-bot #microsoft holding #linux back with #swpats trap https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=exFAT-Delete-Files-Dirsync-Opt #Kernel #Linux [12:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux's exFAT Driver Will Soon Be Able To Delete Big Files Much Faster - Phoronix [12:08] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146570 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:08] psydroid I find it difficult to understand's Intel's line of reasoning when it comes to hiring people for DX, as the company where I worked in mixed Linux/Unix/Windows environments gave adequate training to new hires to fill any gaps in Linux knowledge and skills.I also always made sure to test scripts and code in the environment they were supposed to run in in order to minimise the chance of bugs occurring and to get as close t [12:08] psydroid the customer environment as possible. This really helped when working on solutions to problems, so it is disappointing to see Intel not having similar levels of documentation and support. [12:08] psydroid Intel doesn't seem to see the urgency in doing this and it makes you question if they don't want that training effort to be made. This in turn will lead to more people with an MS background being employed until there are few if any people with GNU/Linux skills left. [12:10] schestowitz thanks, I will add this [12:10] psydroid Last but not least I realise now that it is a good thing that the people who do the actual technical work should also be the ones writing the documentation, even if this takes time away from doing other technical work [12:11] psydroid Sure, feel free to rephrase and omit certain things that are irrelevant, but I have tried to be on topic as much as possible [12:12] schestowitz yes, it covers it [12:12] schestowitz from anorher person's pov [12:14] schestowitz ok, refresh if you wish to review (the page) [12:14] psydroid ok [12:15] psydroid yes, it looks good like this [12:15] psydroid I didn't find any typos either [12:16] techrights-bot A look inside #Intel explains what holds back the technical team, which bemoans the lesser technical people getting in the way and not even using the product that they are writing about http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-testing-with-windows/ [12:16] schestowitz typos inside quotes are less of a liability... to me personally [12:16] schestowitz so it's fair for the quoted person to have a chance to recheck [12:17] schestowitz I think more Intel insiders are catching up with this series [12:17] schestowitz almost 10k views per day this past week (for the videos) [12:17] schestowitz the week earlier less. It grew 50% in one week. [12:17] psydroid "an Microsoft background" <- I guess that should be "a" [12:18] schestowitz I really need to get better equipment, but stores are shut and I need physical access to access and possibility of returns [12:18] schestowitz fixed, psydroid [12:20] psydroid reading this article series makes me realise how hard it must be to acquire people with GNU/Linux knowledge and to retain them, my employers were always begging me to stay on even when I had already decided to leave (for similar reasons as mentioned in this article series) [12:21] psydroid and as we talked about yesterday this does seem to be a bit of a battle between business and technical people who will be at the top of current and future companies [12:21] psydroid the suits fear they are losing out in a tech-savvy society [12:22] schestowitz yeah, we have the same issue [12:22] schestowitz in our company [12:23] schestowitz so this is an interesting bunch of docs to cover [12:23] schestowitz I have more docs to go through after this one [12:24] schestowitz one way to starve GAFAM is to make sure people feel shy to apply for a job there [12:24] schestowitz except those who lack the skills [12:24] schestowitz EPO has had similar issues [12:24] schestowitz no pesona with a phd would be dumb enough to seek employment there now [12:24] schestowitz *person [12:25] Ariadne schestowitz: yes i am concerned that we may lose section 230 as a result of all of this, which would be a tragedy [12:26] schestowitz Ariadne: [09:03] After #Parler #Google Targets Blockchain-based Free Speech Social Network #Minds http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146565 [12:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | After Parler, Google Targets Blockchain-based Free Speech Social Network Minds | Tux Machines [12:26] schestowitz what the actual f? [12:26] Ariadne though i do not believe section 230 applies to parler anyway, considering its users were using it to plan the execution of crimes [12:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:26] schestowitz unless parlers [sic] immigrated to MINDS [12:26] schestowitz and even then, this should raise questions [12:26] schestowitz afaik, MINDS is AWS-hosted (still) [12:26] schestowitz so they might be next to get deplatformed [12:26] schestowitz because of the Trump supporters who are there [12:26] schestowitz (many are not) [12:27] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [12:27] Ariadne MINDS has a ton of alt-right [12:27] schestowitz but still [12:27] schestowitz you go after this [12:27] schestowitz and then some masta instances [12:27] schestowitz and what have we left? [12:27] schestowitz Twitter used to have loads of alt-reich [12:27] Ariadne anyway, i do not believe this is the responsibility of google and apple [12:27] schestowitz it still has some [12:27] Ariadne it is the responsibility of hosting providers to ensure downstreams abide by AUP (and terminate if they do not) [12:28] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:28] Ariadne but regardless, parler was used to plan actual crmes, and i do not believe section 230 exempts that if you let it happen [12:28] schestowitz it gives ways to derail companies [12:28] schestowitz you can poison-pill them [12:28] schestowitz with dummy accounts [12:28] schestowitz no due process [12:28] Ariadne of course, we will never know for sure because backpage.com founders took a plea agreement [12:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.38 [12:29] schestowitz MINDS, afaik, did not get used to plan crimes [12:29] Ariadne i don't know [12:29] schestowitz plea bargain is not justice [12:29] schestowitz it's extortion [12:29] Ariadne i think parler was terminated because it was a liability to AWS [12:29] schestowitz defies the very principle of fair trial [12:29] Ariadne and if i were AWS i would likely have done the same [12:29] schestowitz in the open [12:29] Ariadne i like not having my door kicked in [12:30] Ariadne though, allegedly, Parler was paying AWS $300k monthly [12:30] schestowitz rarely happens here :-) [12:30] Ariadne which raises many questions [12:30] schestowitz SWAT teams... what are they even called here? [12:30] Ariadne they had like 8 million users [12:30] Ariadne why would you need $300k in infrastructure to support that [12:30] schestowitz Parler was subsidised by Mercers [12:30] Ariadne that's a lot of infrastructure [12:31] Ariadne even at AWS pricing [12:31] schestowitz it's like a Trump PAC basically [12:31] schestowitz clown computing is not cheap [12:31] schestowitz $1000 a month can be like a couple dozen busy servers [12:31] Ariadne anyway, the solution is and has always been micro-instances that can be managed by anyone [12:32] schestowitz 20x300=6000 [12:32] schestowitz but you would not need 6000 instances (shared) for just 8 million mindless idiots [12:32] schestowitz that's like 1 per 1k users [12:32] schestowitz and less than 10% would be logged in at one time [12:32] schestowitz mayeb the developers are awful [12:32] schestowitz and cannot code properly :-) [12:33] schestowitz Trump supporters, you know... [12:33] Ariadne it turns out the CTO of parler used to be a client of mine when he was in high school [12:33] Ariadne he ran a small cpanel webhosting and a popular furry art website [12:34] Ariadne ok [12:34] schestowitz weev was a CTO for daily stormer iirc [12:34] schestowitz maybe something at gab, too [12:35] Ariadne daily stormer yeah [12:35] schestowitz their cto quit when the shtf [12:35] schestowitz how's that on their cv? [12:35] schestowitz maybe they can aim even lower afterwards [12:35] Ariadne well, how is "CTO of neo nazi site" on a CV anyway [12:35] schestowitz outsourcing to aws was a bad decision, too [12:36] Ariadne if somebody sent me a CV with daily stormer on it, that goes immediately to the trash [12:44] schestowitz there is also criminal record and arrest [12:44] schestowitz 2-3 years in prison, iirc [12:44] schestowitz and all that (was it?) gaotse stuff [12:44] schestowitz maybe ngaa or whatever that was called [12:44] schestowitz *goatse [12:46] psydroid for those who lack skills GAFAM is a godsend, because they can build a a career, get a decent salary and generally punch above their weight with or without realising it's all just an illusion and they didn't really contribute anything of value to society but rather detracted from it [12:47] techrights-bot "On this episode of This Week in Linux, weve got an update for you about a CentOS alternative from CloudLinux called AlmaLinux" https://tuxdigital.com/2021/01/thisweekinlinux-134/ [12:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-134: WINE 6.0, Flatpak 1.10, Fedora Kinoite, Slimbook Titan, AlmaLinux, JingOS - TuxDigital [12:47] schestowitz Riding VC and later military budget [12:48] schestowitz to maintain imperialism domination over businesses and people [12:48] schestowitz *imperialistic [12:48] schestowitz Their budget will run out [12:48] schestowitz the debt room cannot be raised about 30 trillion when GDP isn't increasing anymore [12:48] schestowitz *debt roof [12:48] schestowitz *above [12:51] CrystalMath in the end all those websites will have to go snowden [12:51] CrystalMath and be hosted in russia [12:51] CrystalMath with a russian domain registrar [12:51] vZS1_2 You don't want to be the documentation person. Everybody hates you no matter how much you try. [12:53] vZS1_2 Have written/patched a lot of documentation. Thankless job. [12:53] techrights-bot #freebsd New committer: Lutz Donnerhacke (src) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html#event20210114:01 #bsd #unix [12:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD News Flash [12:54] techrights-bot #WordPress Post Vs. Page http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/wordpress-post-vs-page #gpl #freesw [12:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | WordPress Post Vs. Page [12:57] MinceR kingoffrance: i see. too bad marx was extremely and obviously wrong :> [12:58] schestowitz [12:51] You don't want to be the documentation person. Everybody hates you no matter how much you try. [12:58] schestowitz it helps if you use what you write about [12:58] schestowitz I would not write documentation about Vista 10 ● Jan 17 [13:07] vZS1_2 Most don't realise that writing docs is a separate kind of project altogether. [13:08] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:08] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:08] vZS1_2 You've got to decide on how much depth to go into, which bits are to serve as a spec for behaviour or just recording current behaviour, target audience, etc.. [13:09] vZS1_2 Then there's maintenance, changes between versions [13:10] schestowitz editions [13:10] vZS1_2 For big programs, you have to coordinate between the different specialists for the respective parts of the docs [13:10] vZS1_2 It can end up eating more resources than the actual code [13:11] psydroid I hated it too and often fell short of my targets, but I realised there wasn't any better person to do it. And yes, it needs to be budgeted in terms of time and money, because it takes away from doing actual technical work. [13:12] psydroid For Intel not to be able to hire a full-time person with GNU/Linux knowledge and technical writing skills is a bit of an embarrassment [13:13] vZS1_2 Yeah. Technical writing is its own specialised job. You need to be able to write and program and not everyone has that skillset. [13:14] schestowitz Those people do exist [13:14] schestowitz Intel is too cheap to pursue them [13:14] schestowitz or they don't want to work for Intel [13:14] schestowitz and that, in turns, puts off the devs [13:14] schestowitz so good luck with that.... [13:15] schestowitz I am going to explore InterPlanetary Name System soon [13:15] schestowitz maybe today [13:15] schestowitz as it seems things have stabilised, except our Internet connection [13:16] schestowitz BTW, any way to more or less know /what/ CIDs are being accessed? [13:16] schestowitz or estimated, at least on the local node? [13:16] vZS1_2 You'd have to look in the logs [13:16] schestowitz would be nice to know more than what sharks are moving in and out [13:16] vZS1_2 each DHT request is logged [13:16] schestowitz logs in /var/log? [13:16] vZS1_2 Let me look up the command, sec. [13:18] vZS1_2 `$ ipfs log --help` is the starting point. [13:18] vZS1_2 Then you look for the appropriate subsystem. [13:18] vZS1_2 With `$ ipfs log ls` (which lists all the subsystems). [13:19] vZS1_2 I get 87 for `$ ipfs log ls | wc -l` [13:19] vZS1_2 So you've got a lot to look through [13:20] schestowitz too many thing there... [13:20] schestowitz and I suppose a composition of commands would be needed [13:20] vZS1_2 I'm trying to check which one would be the most relevant for what you want (CID requests) [13:21] schestowitz less -f <(for i in $(ipfs id | jq .Protocols[] | sed -n "s:\"\(.*\)\":\1:p");do echo "${i}"; ipfs stats bw --proto "${i}"; echo "---" ;done ) [13:22] schestowitz that one does not say which objects are accessed/requested more [13:22] schestowitz But a breakdown of traffic types [13:22] *inky (~inky@37.252.83.199) has joined #techrights [13:22] vZS1_2 That's just bandwidth stats. Nothing about CIDs [13:22] vZS1_2 I'm looking for the relevant command now [13:23] vZS1_2 Give me a bit [13:25] schestowitz This can help understand what else to add to ipfs [13:25] schestowitz we have the capacity to add more, I very much doubt our connection issues, the throttling, can be traced back to ipfs [13:25] schestowitz as they said nothing to that effect and it used up similar traffic levels for 2 months (prior) [13:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.15 [13:32] schestowitz Me: > I wonder what RMS's stance is on this... [13:32] schestowitz Oliva: > [13:32] schestowitz He's one of the friendly voices. He and I talked a lot about it. [13:32] schestowitz My blog post on the 31st was really meant to be favorable to and optimistic about the FSF, but nobody, in or out, took it that way. [13:32] schestowitz I watched the video about my resignation, and felt honored. [13:32] schestowitz I appreciate your trust and support. [13:32] schestowitz I wish I could say more. [13:34] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [13:34] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [13:41] vZS1_2 I'm trying to see which part of `$ ipfs log tail` is actually going to give the CID request data. [13:42] vZS1_2 That's all JSON btw. [13:42] vZS1_2 So you can pretty-print it with jq(1) [13:42] vZS1_2 man jq [13:43] schestowitz since it is decentralised I support it won't give complete figures anyway [13:43] vZS1_2 You should be able to get the relevant DHT data though. i.e., CID requests [13:43] vZS1_2 There's currently 2 logs for ipfs [13:43] vZS1_2 There's the stderr log from the daemon itself [13:43] vZS1_2 and the event log which you get from the `ipfs log` command. [13:44] vZS1_2 The event log is what we're interested in rn. [13:45] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [13:48] *inky (~inky@37.252.83.199) has joined #techrights [13:54] vZS1_2 I looked up some Q/A on the forum and it seems like there's no standardised way of getting DHT events without running your own code to decipher the logs. [13:54] vZS1_2 See [13:54] vZS1_2 https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/how-to-listen-to-dht-communication/8038/8 [13:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to listen to DHT communication - #8 by dadepo - IPFS - discuss.ipfs.io [13:54] vZS1_2 and [13:54] vZS1_2 https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/getting-the-cid-from-dht-related-communication/8052 [13:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Getting the CID from DHT related communication - Help - discuss.ipfs.io [13:55] vZS1_2 Also, looks like I was wrong about which log to look at. Seems like DHT stuff is bundled in the stderr logs for the daemon. [13:56] schestowitz interesting [13:56] schestowitz well, that is fine [13:56] schestowitz if that's the best that can be done [13:59] vZS1_2 All the important logs are in JSON though so it shouldn't be too much of a nightmare to parse. ● Jan 17 [14:01] vZS1_2 The issue here is the volume of data. Most of it is just DHT traffic for CIDs you probably don't have. [14:01] vZS1_2 So you'd need to filter out the relevant CIDs [14:21] schestowitz coming soon: Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers Part III: The Free Software Foundation (FSF) Seems More Like a Victim of Destabilisation Campaigns [14:21] schestowitz I will need to wait, video is 100mb [14:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.80 [14:34] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:34] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:37] vZS1_2 schestowitz: I just realised, Debian 10 doesn't ship with ed(1). [14:37] vZS1_2 Way to alienate the sysadmins. [14:38] schestowitz you can install it [14:38] schestowitz roy@vonick:~$ man ed [14:38] schestowitz No manual entry for ed [14:38] schestowitz and I installed almost all the DEs [14:38] schestowitz except one [14:39] schestowitz now that I'd expect a DE to grab ed with it [14:39] vZS1_2 The whole point of ed is it's a disaster-recovery tool [14:39] schestowitz Debian is not a disaster yet [14:39] schestowitz it can be [14:39] schestowitz but I think they can recover [14:39] schestowitz they are not yet on the "OSI spectrum" [14:40] schestowitz very far from LF/SFC spectrum [14:40] schestowitz FSFE also [14:40] schestowitz FSF is recovering, I think [14:40] schestowitz Gentoo had 2 posts in the past 2 days in their planet [14:40] schestowitz these ones: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146546 [14:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo 2020 in retrospect & happy new year 2021! | Tux Machines [14:41] schestowitz still waiting for anoher big even to shift many to FreeSW [14:41] schestowitz COVID was a negative one [14:41] schestowitz but it may have helped freeSW a lot [14:41] schestowitz I think financial calamity in the US will boost FreeSW [14:42] schestowitz as many of the "big tech" there rely on government funnelling of money to them [14:42] schestowitz via the military or other means like corrupt contracts [14:42] schestowitz when that stops the whole premise of clown computing will collapse [14:42] schestowitz I'm told Azure is a major fiscal failure [14:42] schestowitz and they keep faking its financial viability [14:42] schestowitz Trump pumped about 10 BILLION DOLLARS into it via the military [14:42] schestowitz just to keep the pile of crap afloat [14:43] schestowitz while they actually laid off staff there [14:46] schestowitz x https://hothardware.com/news/linux-vulnerability-found-by-kids [14:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Couple Of Kids Discovered How To Break And Bypass Linux Mint Screensaver Lock | HotHardware [14:46] schestowitz # see instead: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2021/01/i-told-you-so-2021-edition/ [14:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: I told you so, 2021 edition [14:46] schestowitz zdnet trolling came to HotHardware [14:46] schestowitz same wording [14:46] schestowitz some mocking and mobbing [14:46] schestowitz with pictures of kids [14:46] schestowitz wth? [14:46] schestowitz 'journalism' [14:47] schestowitz Cimpanu [14:47] vZS1_2 Ubuntu still ships ed. So why doesn't Debian? [14:47] vZS1_2 Curious. [14:50] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/18/63b4c23ed8b73039.jpg [14:51] schestowitz MinceR: ;) [14:52] schestowitz (_) [14:53] schestowitz -^^,--,~ [14:53] MinceR :) [14:53] schestowitz [14:53] vZS1_2 So Billy got a military contract to keep Azure afloat. [14:53] vZS1_2 Great. [14:53] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:54] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:54] *aindilis` (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [14:55] vZS1_2 The fox head reminds me of GitLab, whenever I see it. [14:55] schestowitz depends on font/backend [14:55] schestowitz don't trust a fox [14:55] schestowitz or a wolf [14:56] schestowitz gitlab already divides users into two lanes [14:56] schestowitz and some lanes are directly controlled by the company [14:57] *aindilis has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:57] psydroid treacherous foxes have infiltrated our ranks [14:58] schestowitz Michael J. Treachery ● Jan 17 [15:00] MinceR :> [15:01] techrights-bot 3 steps to achieving Inbox Zero https://opensource.com/article/21/1/inbox-zero I stopped doing that as there's too much spam and it's better dealt with in bulk. I also check mail at most once a day. [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 steps to achieving Inbox Zero | Opensource.com [15:01] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20071262 [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4749703) [15:03] techrights-bot GCC's Profile Guided Optimization Performance With The Ryzen 9 5950X - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-PGO-Benchmarks-5950X #Phoronix #GCC | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest [15:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GCC's Profile Guided Optimization Performance With The Ryzen 9 5950X - Phoronix [15:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:03] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:06] vZS1_2 schestowitz: have you been getting many requests for the TR site archives lately? [15:07] schestowitz not sure [15:08] schestowitz i don't look deep into stats [15:08] schestowitz unless we have ddos [15:08] schestowitz once a week I check this month to see how many people request ogv and webm [15:09] schestowitz just to know if it's worth it and whether to buy better gear after lockdown [15:09] schestowitz second hand obviously... [15:21] techrights-bot #EasyOS works on #RaspberryPi 3B with 1GB RAM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146571 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS works on Raspberry Pi 3B with 1GB RAM | Tux Machines [15:25] MinceR https://explosm.net/comics/342/ [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [15:25] techrights-bot #KDE Customization Guide: Here are 11 Ways You Can Change the Look and Feel of Your KDE-Powered Linux Desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146572 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Customization Guide: Here are 11 Ways You Can Change the Look and Feel of Your KDE-Powered Linux Desktop | Tux Machines [15:26] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [15:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 26.16 [15:31] techrights-bot Audiocasts/Shows: #TWIL and #GNU World Order http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146573 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: TWIL and GNU World Order | Tux Machines [15:37] techrights-bot #Kernel and #Graphics : exFAT, Linux 5.12, Mesas Panfrost Gallium3D and Mesa 21.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146574 #Linux #Mesa [15:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel and Graphics: exFAT, Linux 5.12, Mesa's Panfrost Gallium3D and Mesa 21.0 | Tux Machines [15:43] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:47] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146575 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest [15:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:48] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [15:49] MinceR https://explosm.net/comics/445/ [15:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [15:54] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146576 [15:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines ● Jan 17 [16:05] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:05] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [16:05] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:06] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [16:13] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/718900.jpg [16:14] techrights-bot Only one third of #patents at the #epo come from #eu applicants. Only a third now! http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/13/german-ratification-of-unified-patent-court-agreement-put-on-hold/#comment-37938 [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | German ratification of Unified Patent Court Agreement put on hold - Kluwer Patent Blog [16:15] techrights-bot Links 17/1/2021: #EasyOS on #RaspberryPi and GNU #libsigsegv 2.13 http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/libsigsegv-2-13/ [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/1/2021: EasyOS on Raspberry Pi and GNU libsigsegv 2.13 | Techrights [16:18] schestowitz http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/13/german-ratification-of-unified-patent-court-agreement-put-on-hold/#comments [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | German ratification of Unified Patent Court Agreement put on hold - Kluwer Patent Blog [16:18] schestowitz " [16:18] schestowitz Do you really think that there is a need for a EPLA light for 8,8 % of granted EP? What good would it bring besides the hope of filling the pockets of a firm like yours? [16:18] schestowitz Europe at large has been quite happy with the system as it stands. The UPC or the EPLC is only useful for lawyers firms and certainly not for European Industry, and especially not for European SMEs. . [16:18] schestowitz On the other hand I have to acknowledge your perseverance with trying to pursue a project which is as useful as trying to sell a bra to a policeman. [16:18] schestowitz " [16:18] schestowitz zoobab: ^ [16:20] schestowitz "I can agree at a pinch with Peter Parker that the quorum was achieved, but the members of Bundestag and Bundesrat were wilfully misled in the explanatory note. They agreed on ratification without having received the necessary information. The explanatory note for the new ratification bill expresses no more than the wishes of the lawyers lobbying for a quick start of the UPC, as they expect to fill their pockets. That the lawyers [16:20] schestowitz involved get on top the support of the European Commission is adding insult to injury. " [16:23] schestowitz "Lets face it, the UPC is no more than a further source of profit for internationally active litigation firms helping the big industry. All major internationally active litigation lawyers firms participated in committee setting up of the rules of procedure of the UPC. All its members were co-opted. This says it all." [16:25] schestowitz "For this reason, I have absolutely no doubt that the UPCs strongest supporters will now proceed to argue long and hard that the two new complaints should be immediately dismissed and/or that, irrespective of the complaints, the Bundesprsident should be allowed to sign the new law. However, it is another question entirely whether I will have the stomach to endure the endless rounds of fantastical (and nakedly self-serving) [16:25] schestowitz arguments that will be generated to this end." [16:25] *birkoff has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.81 [16:50] *inky (~inky@141.136.78.3) has joined #techrights [16:51] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/2007124 [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4747702) ● Jan 17 [17:05] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:05] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:07] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:15] techrights-bot Postgresql service failed because the control process exited with an error code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146577 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Postgresql service failed because the control process exited with an error code | Tux Machines [17:19] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:20] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [17:21] techrights-bot #fake #clinicalTrials ... at this point we lack actual evidence that the "real" or "genuine" so-called 'vaccines' are both safe and effective; they leapfrogged years of testing https://www.marques.org/blogs/class46/?XID=BHA4955 [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marques.org | MARQUES [17:21] MinceR (audio:important) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/718852.mp4 [17:22] techrights-bot "On 11 November 2020, the Standing Committee of National Peoples Congress of China passed the amendments to the #China #Copyright Law." https://www.marques.org/blogs/class99/ [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marques.org | MARQUES [17:24] techrights-bot Issues in #SciHub Case A Matter of Public Importance | SpicyIP https://spicyip.com/2021/01/issues-in-scihub-case-a-matter-of-public-importance.html #spicyip #india #in [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Issues in Sci-Hub Case A Matter of Public Importance | SpicyIP [17:25] Techrights-sec Ok [17:25] Techrights-sec the coup attempt is now being whitewashed as a [17:25] Techrights-sec "riot" instead by most of the media. [17:25] Techrights-sec That has changed during the last day or so. [17:26] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:27] schestowitz [17:21] (audio:important) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/718852.mp4 [17:27] schestowitz weird [17:28] schestowitz Techrights-sec: yes, now the GOP itself (coup plotter) is trying to pass new laws against protests, which are lawful and protected by the Constitution AFAIK, according to news reports [17:28] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.38 [17:29] Techrights-sec Yeah the concerns have been that they will abuse this like the twin towers [17:29] Techrights-sec attack was abused to ja through th PATRIOT act. They probbaly [17:29] Techrights-sec have something worse on the shelf ready to go.\ [17:34] schestowitz I think the Daily Links I posted just now contain a report to that effect, but maybe the one prior to it. My upload speeds are painfully slow, still (waiting for the manager to phone back), so I have two large files in the queue and cannot publish until that's done. [17:35] schestowitz Maybe in the name of 'harmonisation', post-Brexit UK will also ban protests in any form... to keep the "plebs" away from the "private property" of vaccine profiteers and people who control the whole freight/logistic, monopolising the market remotely [17:36] *aindilis` has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:37] Techrights-sec Harmonization is often used like that. [17:41] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/718864.jpg ● Jan 17 [18:00] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:06] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vnlnspyexpsfovoh) has joined #techrights [18:06] XRevan86 Navalny reached Moscow, now is taken away by the police. [18:07] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [18:07] schestowitz police=medics? [18:07] schestowitz I read that even journalists were denied access to him at the airport [18:07] schestowitz arrested and charged :) for embarrassing Putin and the KGB :-) [18:08] XRevan86 The aeroplane landed in Sheremetyevo instead of Vnukovo where Navalny was greeted by the police. [18:08] XRevan86 on passport control [18:08] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/01/17/police-arrest-alexey-navalny-upon-arrival-in-moscow-russia-s-authorities-now-must-decide-what-to-do-with-him they're fast [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [18:09] XRevan86 I guess English Meduza was on its toes to translate quickly. [18:11] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/live/2021/01/17/alexey-navalny-returns-to-russia they even got this translated [18:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [18:12] techrights-bot Careful not to conflate Microsoft proprietary software with Git, which is Free software. Git is not GitHub. https://www.linuxnix.com/pulling-changes-from-github-to-git/ [18:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxnix.com | Pulling changes from GitHub to Git - The Linux Juggernaut [18:16] MinceR why did Navalny go to russia? [18:17] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/718599.jpg [18:18] techrights-bot #Gentoo Saw Total Commits Rise By 42% In 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146546#comment-27835 #gnu #linux [18:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo 2020 in retrospect & happy new year 2021! | Tux Machines [18:19] schestowitz MinceR: to make a point? [18:19] MinceR at the cost of his own life and freedom? [18:22] schestowitz martyrdom? [18:22] schestowitz anyway, Putin would be unwise to harm him [18:22] schestowitz the media is like vigilante [18:23] MinceR what is the media going to do to putin? [18:23] schestowitz good point [18:23] schestowitz he quit caring [18:24] schestowitz like his make MbS [18:27] XRevan86 MinceR: He did. [18:28] techrights-bot #Corellium Posts Very Early #Linux Port To #Apple #M1 Macs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146229#comment-27836 [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Aha! This Project is Working to Bring Linux to Apples ARM-based M1 MacBooks | Tux Machines [18:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.21 [18:30] techrights-bot How To Install #UbuntuMate On The Raspberry PI 400 https://raspberrypiuser.co.uk/how-to-install-ubuntu-mate-on-the-raspberry-pi-400 #gnu #linux [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raspberrypiuser.co.uk | How To Install Ubuntu Mate On The Raspberry PI 400 Raspberry PI User [18:32] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-gxbijcmqvbgugrfc) has joined #techrights [18:35] techrights-bot #Watchtroll starting with its cheap #propaganda for #litigation fanatics tonight: "Innovation [sic] Alliance Urges #Biden Administration to Support Patent Rights" Innovation? No. Litigation front. There are no "Patent Rights"... #patents are NOT rights! 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[19:08] *birkoff has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [19:10] XRevan86 scientes: Just tried postmarketOS 21.01 (time travel), still slower than Manjaro. [19:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.28 [19:38] *Blukunfando has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:46] *Blukunfando (~bkf@62.57.153.77.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #techrights ● Jan 17 [20:03] kingoffrance (from techrights-bot) "There are no "Patent Rights"... #patents are NOT rights!" yep. my understanding: they are gov-granted privileges. temporarily-granted "exclusive right" just like the legal v law thing, de jure v de facto. same issue essentially -- form v substance. possession, strictly, requires corporeal things. ideas are not corporeal https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/chose-in-action/ the idea reverts back to [20:03] kingoffrance "public property" when the grant expires. thats not a right, thats a temporary privilege. even someone claiming god-given natural right to property: ideas arent corporeal, cant be strictly possessed/owned. incorporeal rights look to be "quasi possession" [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-definitions.uslegal.com | Chose in Action Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc. [20:03] kingoffrance even better: [20:04] kingoffrance http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=gcide&Query=possess For the same reason, we have the faculties of reason, understanding, will, sound judgment, etc.: they are exercises of the mind, not possessions. [20:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dict.org- possess [20:04] DaemonFC[m] He who has the gold makes the rules. [20:05] DaemonFC[m] It's the golden rule. [20:05] kingoffrance what is an idea if not an "exercise of the mind" [20:05] kingoffrance not disputing that :) [20:05] kingoffrance thats same thing again [20:05] DaemonFC[m] " US states are failing to provide unemployment compensation to all the unemployed workers that are trying to apply for it. " -RMS [20:06] DaemonFC[m] Meanwhile, they give it out to millions of people who are filing fake claims to take advantage of the chaos and confusion. [20:06] DaemonFC[m] Ironic, isn't it? [20:06] MinceR (cat) "i am vengeance. i am the night." https://ircz.de/p/20122642 [20:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5128764) [20:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.21 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.20 [20:35] MinceR https://www.theonion.com/fbi-uncovers-al-qaeda-plot-to-just-sit-back-and-enjoy-c-1819576375 [20:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | FBI Uncovers Al-Qaeda Plot To Just Sit Back And Enjoy Collapse Of United States [20:53] *gry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #techrights ● Jan 17 [21:09] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:15] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-eollhztdgahgofgl) has joined #techrights [21:15] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [21:15] *birkoff (birkoff@unaffiliated/birkoff) has joined #techrights [21:15] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [21:15] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-eollhztdgahgofgl) has joined #techrights [21:20] *DVulgaris has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:23] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fast [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fast [21:25] *DVulgaris (~quassel@185.108.81.14) has joined #techrights [21:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.28 [21:35] techrights-bot The #FreeSoftwareFoundation ( #FSF ), which turns 36 later this year, is looking to raise money that helps support the #GNU Project, soon 38 years old and likely the most important #Freesoftware project to exist (ever) http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/fsf-destabilisation/ [21:36] techrights-bot #AwesomeWM : So Long BSPWM, It's Been Fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ArWwGN7lM #gnu #linux [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AwesomeWM: So Long BSPWM, It's Been Fun - YouTube [21:38] techrights-bot #LibreWolf Is A Web Browser For #Privacy and Freedom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LVMkC82jpk [21:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LibreWolf Is A Web Browser For Privacy and Freedom - YouTube [21:39] techrights-bot "In this video, we are looking at how to install #ONLYOFFICE on Linux Mint 20.1." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDZNQmuuAZI but #proprietarySoftware :/ [21:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install ONLYOFFICE on Linux Mint 20.1 - YouTube [21:42] techrights-bot #KDE Roadmap for 2021, #Nvidia now loves Wayland, and Epic Games Store on #GNU #Linux - Linux News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKYrLhOjkfc [21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Roadmap for 2021, Nvidia now loves Wayland, and Epic Games Store on Linux - Linux News - YouTube [21:45] techrights-bot #Linux 5.10.8 #Kernel Released - Finally Fixes That #Btrfs Performance Regression http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146582 [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.10.8 Kernel Released - Finally Fixes That Btrfs Performance Regression | Tux Machines [21:45] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:47] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/lumpy [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Lumpy [21:48] techrights-bot "We had a peaceful week in the world of Linux Releases and only KaOS 2021.01 and ArcoLinux 21.03.1" https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2021/01/linux-weekly-roundup-113.html [21:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxmadesimple.info | Linux Weekly Roundup #113 [21:49] techrights-bot "IRC is a good place to find answers. Often I find the questions found there to be even more enlightening." #rakulang #programming https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2021/01/17/introspective-labeling/ [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gfldex.wordpress.com | Introspective labeling | Playing Perl 6b6xA Raku [21:52] techrights-bot Shows/Videos: #GNU / #Linux News, #ONLYOFFICE , #LibreWolf , and #AwesomeWM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146583 [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shows/Videos: GNU/Linux News, ONLYOFFICE, LibreWolf, and AwesomeWM | Tux Machines ● Jan 17 [22:06] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.105) has joined #techrights [22:16] *GNUmoon has quit (*.net *.split) [22:24] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.60 [22:49] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XVIII: #Intel Does Not Know How to Properly Do Research and It Seems Apparent Unscientific Methods Are Used to Justify Poor Documentation http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-studies-and-findings/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XVIII: Intel Does Not Know How to Properly Do Research and It Seems Apparent Unscientific Methods Are Used to Justify Poor Documentation | Techrights [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [22:53] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20122569 [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5127675) [22:54] schestowitz rianne says, "MinceR LOVES CATS!" [22:54] MinceR :) [22:54] schestowitz we suspect one of our fish is ill [22:54] schestowitz "silva" [22:55] schestowitz cats are too much fur [22:55] MinceR i never had an issue with the amount of fur [22:55] schestowitz psydroid: I quoted you in http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-studies-and-findings/ (hope you don't mind) [22:55] MinceR then again, i've never maintained a cat [22:55] schestowitz it harms ebay stores [22:55] schestowitz you need to disclose "home with pets" [22:56] schestowitz She tells there: https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/trendsright [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.co.uk | trendsright on eBay [22:58] schestowitz Maybe someone who reads IRC logs and is based in the UK wants to buy something.. [22:58] schestowitz something there for everyone :-) [22:58] schestowitz she goes to town tomorrow and can deliver/drop a parcel off... after midday ● Jan 17 [23:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 9.30 [23:37] techrights-bot Future Plans and Using Videos to Complement Text http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/impending-site-changes/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Future Plans and Using Videos to Complement Text | Techrights [23:39] psydroid schestowitz, that is fine and I am watching the video now [23:39] psydroid I experienced hiring people with degrees in language studies for tech roles and even lower tech roles, but they generally wouldn't break out of Windows support and the next step was obviously a role in management [23:40] schestowitz weird to me [23:40] schestowitz iirc, the third time Google approached me it was for tech doc role [23:40] schestowitz which tbh I was not interested in [23:40] schestowitz not because it's google [23:40] schestowitz that was like 15 years ago, before they became very obviously evil [23:40] schestowitz imagine changing your skillset to docs and words [23:40] schestowitz instead of working on code and creating things [23:41] schestowitz I was a phd student at the time [23:41] schestowitz it's also rather boring and unsatisfying [23:41] schestowitz if I write text, I want it to expose something new, not some banal document about a GUI [23:41] schestowitz IIRC, my sister works on some things like that [23:41] schestowitz paperwork after a CS degree [23:43] psydroid I consider it wasting your own potential as well as your employer wasting yours [23:44] psydroid the worst part is that you lose your technical skills if you don't use them, so you get stuck to similar roles [23:45] schestowitz yes, which they will say "HEY HI" can replace... [23:45] schestowitz no matter the quality of the input-output junk, junk in, junk out [23:46] schestowitz it's "Cheap" [23:46] schestowitz many products fail anyway [23:46] schestowitz at least they invest less in those failures [23:46] schestowitz "technical writer" is almost like a paradox [23:46] schestowitz and you would be struggling to find vacancies worth a f [23:47] schestowitz I once dated a girl who said she was a "nail engineer" (she meant manicurist) [23:48] psydroid that's stretching things a bit too far [23:49] psydroid but yes, all these "engineer" roles are a bit of a joke [23:52] schestowitz which ones? [23:53] schestowitz BTW, mind proofreading this while I do too? http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/covid-19-and-freesw/ [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | COVID-19 Has Actually Helped Software Freedom Due to Financial and Spare Time Factors | Techrights [23:53] psydroid I consider an engineer someone who has a degree in engineering, maybe more like what is common in German-speaking countries [23:54] schestowitz Germany built its enconomy on it [23:54] schestowitz so it can largely coexist with Japan and China [23:54] schestowitz exporting lots of machines to them [23:54] schestowitz US and UK lack that ability [23:54] schestowitz not sure about the French, not sure how much things like wines and food contribute to their economy; tourism has flattened, which certainly harms Italy [23:58] psydroid I am proofreading the article [23:59] techrights-bot #COVID19 Has Actually Helped #SoftwareFreedom Due to Financial and Spare Time Factors http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/covid-19-and-freesw/ #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [23:59] schestowitz psydroid: thank you, that helps