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[00:17]	XRevan86	War wasn't kind to Lenin.
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[00:48]	matey	 <XRevan86> War wasn't kind to Lenin. <- was it lenin (i think) or was it trotsky that said revolution wears men down
[00:49]	matey	lenin was fighting to see that his legacy was not destroyed by stalin, but it was killing him
[00:49]	XRevan86	matey: Trotsky did.
[00:49]	matey	trotsky was seeing to this even after lenins death, and stalin had him killed for it
[00:49]	matey	<XRevan86> matey: Trotsky did. <- fair enough, i treat them separately with good reason but sometimes they run together a bit
[00:50]	matey	they werent always friends. but they were certainly comrades
[00:50]	XRevan86	Stalin is a very distint figure from Lenin and Trotsky as far as political views go.
[00:50]	matey	stalin not only made a pact with hitler, he made a pact with hitler and then said trotsky was working with the nazis
[00:50]	XRevan86	So I can understand how they can blend together when compared to Stalin.
[00:50]	matey	<XRevan86> Stalin is a very distint figure from Lenin and Trotsky as far as political views go. <- this is something i try to make clear to people
[00:51]	XRevan86	* distinct
[00:51]	matey	 how they can blend together when compared to Stalin. <- i think it goes a little farther than that, but of course lenin wasnt exactly president of the leon trotsky fan club for a long time
[00:52]	matey	and even trotsky was disappointed with the 4th national 
[00:52]	matey	they were a bit rag tag and he wanted soldiers (in discipline at least)
[00:52]	matey	like the fellow he used to have guarding the door with it left open, and he would say "you shouldnt do that, its a good way to get shot"
[00:53]	matey	and the guy got shot later, just like trotsky said he would
[00:54]	XRevan86	matey: A funny analogy in modern-day Russia: Yeltsin as Lenin, Niemtsov as Trotsky, Putin as Stalin :)
[00:54]	matey	ive been watching a lot of benjamin rich lately, as he traipses through the former soviet union (including russia, belarus, many other places)
[00:54]	matey	well i got the putin as stalin part, thats obviously
[00:54]	matey	yeltsin as lenin? you must either like him or hate him
[00:54]	XRevan86	All analogies break apart under close inspection, but it holds up better than expected.
[00:55]	matey	niemtsov is entirely outside the scope of my interests (so far), as ive never heard of him
[00:55]	matey	ive started a century or two earlier
[00:55]	matey	but with the stuff from ben rich im seeing the refufees, the aftermath
[00:55]	XRevan86	matey: Yeltsin founded the state, Niemtsov was a visionary of it, Putin inherited it, Niemtsov fought Putin and then got killed.
[00:55]	matey	refugees
[00:56]	matey	thats pretty good, analogy wise
[00:56]	matey	thanks for the outline, stuff like that is useful
[00:56]	XRevan86	matey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov
[00:56]	TR Bot	 Boris Nemtsov - Wikipedia
[00:56]	XRevan86	He's a big opposition-to-Putin figure in the history of contemporary Russia.
[00:56]	matey	of course trotsky would tell anyone that you cant figure out revolution everywhere by basing it on russia, and its a mistake to do so
[00:57]	matey	but he would also hope, im quite certain, that people would learn from the mistakes at least
[00:57]	XRevan86	He was way bigger than Navalny.
[00:57]	matey	ive read "a revolution betrayed" and part of the history of the russian revolution by ted grant
[00:57]	MinceR	17 015042 < matey> stalin not only made a pact with hitler, he made a pact with hitler and then said trotsky was working with the nazis
[00:58]	MinceR	i didn't realize the "NO U R TEH NAZIS!!11111" russian move was so old
[00:58]	matey	 :>
[00:58]	matey	just the fact that it happens at lieplanet should be a hint that its been recycled more than once
[00:59]	MinceR	learning from mistakes? that's not what humans do
[00:59]	XRevan86	MinceR: Unfortunately Putin learnt from success.
[00:59]	matey	sabotage is always easier than building a better world
[00:59]	XRevan86	Worked for Stalin, works for Putin so far.
● Apr 17
[01:00]	matey	the thing is, the workers have to be armed
[01:00]	matey	if every worker was armed the world would be a very different place. something the marxists and libertarians actually agree on
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[01:00]	matey	the difference is that libertarians (in my experience) really have no plan at all
[01:01]	matey	and maybe they would say thats an advantage
[01:01]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I literally passed out from lack of sleep. Luckily had enough energy to go to bed.
[01:01]	matey	but strategically, its probably not
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[01:01]	DaemonFC	It took all day just to get a car key.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	By the time they were finished, it was time to get Mandy at work anyway.
[01:02]	DaemonFC	I took the keys from Buick and the keys from Batteries Plus and talked to Anthony Buick GMC in Gurnee and a locksmith.
[01:02]	matey	i tried explaining to roy that theres a narrower selection of 90s cars than there used to be
[01:02]	matey	because they dont make 90s cars anymore
[01:03]	XRevan86	matey: I've abandoned all hope for strategy years ago.
[01:03]	matey	he thinks you should have gotten one without a "luxury" ignition
[01:03]	XRevan86	matey: Just like the Hungarian opposition :)
[01:03]	DaemonFC	The Buick dealer told me that there was something "off brand" about the key where the transponder wouldn't program correctly for the car to remember it, but the Buick key that theh made was correct and accepting a program.
[01:03]	matey	i explained that half your motivation was to get a car with less such bullshit, but those were pretty standard
[01:04]	matey	<DaemonFC> The Buick dealer told me that there was something "off brand" about the key where the transponder wouldn't program correctly  <- that sounds like hes throwing you a line
[01:04]	DaemonFC	And then the locksmith I showed the keys to laughed and said "It won't turn because the one from Batteries Plus is a few mm off and you can just barely get the key cylinder to turn if you wiggle it.".
[01:04]	matey	<XRevan86> matey: I've abandoned all hope for strategy years ago. <- if all is lost, we can do whatever we please. if we can do whatever we please, some will keep trying.
[01:04]	XRevan86	matey: What I mean is that there's literally only one job to do.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	Physically, the one from Batteries Plus will open the car door because it's close enough for the door lock and the door does not check for a transponder ID.
[01:05]	matey	the takeover of free software was capitalisms last chance. if we cant build something better im still anti-capitalist
[01:05]	DaemonFC	So if a thief clones the physical key, it gets them in the car, but it won't start the car.
[01:05]	XRevan86	Everything else is a hypothetical.
[01:05]	matey	 <XRevan86> matey: What I mean is that there's literally only one job to do. <- im still not old enough for nihilism or fatalism
[01:06]	XRevan86	matey: How about "there are no politics when an autocrat is in power"?
[01:06]	matey	<XRevan86> Everything else is a hypothetical. <- everything else. i mean everything is hypothetical until you test the hypotheses
[01:06]	matey	<XRevan86> matey: How about "there are no politics when an autocrat is in power"? <- depending how you define politics
[01:06]	matey	the first task is to get the autocrat out 
[01:06]	XRevan86	matey: The first task, yes.
[01:06]	matey	an autocrat is a prison for a nation or larger part of the world
[01:06]	matey	in human form
[01:08]	matey	im agnostic. i still put a very small percentage of stock in divine intervention
[01:08]	matey	though im increasingly familiar with history so... not TOO MUCH stock, eh?
[01:09]	matey	stalin at least, is dead. but he lived too long.
[01:09]	matey	hitler is dead, he too lived too long
[01:09]	matey	it annoys me when roy talks like github and ibm will simply collapse, as if waiting for that is the answer
[01:09]	matey	of course, he would deny saying thats the answer
[01:09]	matey	but he still talks that way most of the time
[01:10]	matey	waiting for these things to take care of themselves is ALWAYS the answer for some people
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[01:10]	matey	how much worse would things be if everyone thought about every problem that way?
[01:11]	matey	today i learned that gcc is WAY WAY more resource efficient than llvm
[01:11]	matey	this is all the same to me, im not changing topic though anyone may accuse me of doing so
[01:11]	matey	i learned this not from techrights, but from #techrights
[01:12]	matey	because some nutter (whose work i do admired) is trying to make a c++-free distro
[01:12]	XRevan86	matey: Deus ex machina is a thing in works of fiction, it's not a factor in reality.
[01:12]	matey	and he knows that gcc is way easier to build than llvm-- some others here know that too, no one told me before
[01:12]	bnchs	llvm is bloated and shit
[01:13]	bnchs	ofc gcc is way easier to build
[01:13]	matey	matey: Deus ex machina is a thing in works of fiction, it's not a factor in reality. <- even if im refuting my own argument, if there is no god then we are it.
[01:13]	bnchs	when i was building PS3 toolchain in a 4GB ram laptop
[01:13]	matey	<bnchs> ofc gcc is way easier to build <- but i didnt know that until today
[01:13]	bnchs	it only took 30 minutes
[01:13]	matey	it changes a lot if llvm is that much of a hog
[01:13]	matey	for example, we cant escape ibm by simply moving to llvm (which of course is microsoft)
[01:14]	matey	and it makes forking llvm that much more impractical, fucking beast that it is (i had no way to quanitify it previously)
[01:14]	XRevan86	matey: "If there is no god then we are it" <- I'm a theological noncognitivist in that I consider your statement to be factually empty.
[01:14]	bnchs	llvm is a beast
[01:14]	bnchs	i would rather use GCC
[01:14]	matey	factually empty. <- okay, maybe we can find a fact to put in its place
[01:15]	matey	we are likely the most "intelligent" species on earth FSVO of intelligence
[01:15]	matey	or if we are not...
[01:15]	matey	the whales and dolphins are probably not going to assist us (unless they can do so telepathically)
[01:15]	XRevan86	matey: Intelligence is not very measureable, but humans are definitely the most resourceful.
[01:16]	bnchs	https://github.com/KhronosGroup/SPIRV-LLVM-Translator/issues/412
[01:16]	TR Bot	memory usage during compilation Issue #412 KhronosGroup/SPIRV-LLVM-Translator GitHub
[01:16]	bnchs	lol
[01:16]	matey	so if there are no gods, we are the closest thing in range
[01:16]	bnchs	the issue has a memory usage chart
[01:16]	bnchs	it's a fucking saw wave
[01:16]	XRevan86	matey: We are the masters of our own fate, yes.
[01:16]	bnchs	up to 1 GB
[01:16]	matey	 <bnchs> the issue has a memory usage chart <- im not crediting anyone in here with making a big discovery, only with making me aware of the issue
[01:16]	XRevan86	matey: Unfortunately, collectively %).
[01:16]	bnchs	matey: yeah
[01:16]	bnchs	LLVM is an issue
[01:17]	bnchs	Xorg requires it
[01:17]	bnchs	which is why i couldn't use gentoo with Xorg
[01:17]	matey	xorg sees fit to have a stab at rms for simply saying they made a mistake
[01:17]	matey	maybe they have an addiction to bullshit (or bloat) or something
[01:18]	bnchs	fuck llvm
[01:18]	bnchs	i wish programs didn't depend on it, considering how utterly obese it is
[01:18]	matey	 <bnchs> fuck llvm <- probably a good idea. makes me even sadder that openbsd uses it
[01:19]	matey	and its one more reason gnu/bsd would be a good idea (since openbsd isnt made for gcc i guess)
[01:19]	matey	(or is it, i couldnt tell you)
[01:19]	bnchs	openbsd should use gcc
[01:19]	bnchs	or some other compiler
[01:19]	bnchs	not llvm
[01:19]	bnchs	ughhh
[01:19]	matey	but if hyperbola makes openbsd use gcc theyre probably doing the world a favour
[01:19]	matey	after all, theyre not just openbsd fans, theyre openbsd fans who love free software as a movement
[01:20]	matey	openbsd is a research project-- not a movement
[01:20]	bnchs	the point is to use free software
[01:20]	bnchs	that is efficient both in being compiled
[01:20]	bnchs	and being used
[01:20]	matey	its a very GOOD project, but now we know what a mistake it is to use llvm
[01:20]	matey	<bnchs> the point is to use free software <bnchs> that is efficient both in being compiled <bnchs> and being used <- of course
[01:20]	matey	and being maintained-- where openbsd wins (mostly)
[01:20]	matey	but i think llvm does not
[01:20]	bnchs	llvm fails at those
[01:20]	matey	yes
[01:21]	matey	 <XRevan86> matey: Unfortunately, collectively <- then our choices perhaps, are to work to make things work collectively
[01:21]	matey	or watch them get worse
[01:21]	matey	dont mistake me for an optimist. my view of the world is a bit like westleys when every night he would hear
[01:21]	matey	"good night westley, ill most likely kill you in the morning"
[01:22]	matey	but im bored with television, so...
[01:23]	matey	and there arent THAT many watchable movies on youtube
[01:23]	XRevan86	"Theological noncognitivism" is a term I like because it describes well what I see my level of atheism: not only do I not think that gods exist, I think that the word "god" doesn't actually describe anything.
[01:23]	matey	thats sort of making things true by redefining something else, isnt it?
[01:23]	matey	i mean it seems like a straw man to me
[01:24]	matey	a god is a concept of a being more powerful than man-- thats it
[01:24]	matey	it doesnt need to be more complicated than that
[01:24]	matey	if you could be twice as powerful as any man it would make you "god-like" at least.
[01:24]	XRevan86	matey: So if a rock crushes a man, the rock is god?
[01:24]	matey	some people would be offended, but you could brush them off with relative ease
[01:25]	matey	 matey: So if a rock crushes a man, the rock is god? <- only if a rock is a "being", then yes
[01:25]	matey	 <matey> a god is a concept of a being more powerful than man-- thats it
[01:25]	XRevan86	matey: Is a man on literal steroids god?
[01:25]	XRevan86	More powerful than a regular man.
[01:25]	matey	i guess it depends
[01:26]	MinceR	smarter than the average bear
[01:26]	matey	if he can stop someone from putting him down with a bullet, perhaps
[01:26]	matey	a man with a gun and a guy on steroids... id bet on the man with the gnu
[01:26]	matey	lol
[01:26]	matey	the gun
[01:26]	matey	with all due respect to rms
[01:26]	XRevan86	matey: We need AGI bullets, they'll be gods.
[01:26]	MinceR	also, my car is faster than you, so it's god
[01:26]	matey	your car is a being?
[01:26]	MinceR	\_()_/
[01:27]	MinceR	it exists
[01:27]	XRevan86	Smart bullets are key here.
[01:27]	matey	anyway we wont get past straw man with more straw man
[01:27]	MinceR	just set fire to the straw men
[01:27]	matey	god was never a difficult concept
[01:27]	MinceR	yeah
[01:27]	MinceR	it was the "i can't think of an explanation" concept
[01:27]	MinceR	and the "you must do what i say, because... uh..." concept
[01:27]	MinceR	rolled into one!
[01:28]	XRevan86	I mean, the initial gods are simple enough that humanity universally just wrote them off as fiction.
[01:28]	matey	that can be a nasty combination yes
[01:28]	matey	id say politics has done as much with that as religion has
[01:28]	XRevan86	I can say with confidence that there's no lightning god.
[01:28]	matey	i mean christianity has had some ugly moments-- not to defend it, but very often a state was involved before it got truly ugly
[01:28]	matey	like rome, or the vatican, or both
[01:28]	XRevan86	I give a revan guarantee.
[01:29]	matey	XRevan86 help me out here
[01:29]	matey	this is going to sound really stupid but i didnt study physics so
[01:29]	matey	those giant fucking blocks-- the pyramids and the monument to gilgamesh
[01:30]	matey	how were those stones lifted?
[01:30]	matey	im not saying gods did it
[01:30]	XRevan86	matey: By men.
[01:30]	matey	this isnt a GOTCHA
[01:30]	matey	okay, but how did men lift them?
[01:30]	matey	i would also assume men
[01:30]	XRevan86	matey: Levers and shit.
[01:31]	matey	fair enough
[01:31]	matey	ive certainly read the one about a lever big enough and the world, etc
[01:31]	XRevan86	Levers are like a weight cheat-code :)
[01:31]	matey	i used to talk to a guy that build a house without a crane, using a system of pulleys
[01:31]	matey	built
[01:32]	matey	big fucking logs
[01:32]	matey	bigger than the ones used in most cabins
[01:32]	matey	most people doing similar use a crane, he was like nahhhhhh
[01:32]	matey	showoff
[01:32]	matey	cool project though
[01:33]	matey	so we can rule out gods moving the largest blocks of all time because levers
[01:33]	MinceR	17 022803 < XRevan86> I mean, the initial gods are simple enough that humanity universally just wrote them off as fiction.
[01:33]	MinceR	you mean, their cults were defeated by other cults
[01:34]	MinceR	and those cults wrote off all rival gods as fiction
[01:34]	matey	both
[01:34]	DaemonFC	https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/16/europe/queen-easter-sunday-intl-scli-gbr/index.html
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[01:34]	TR Bot	Elizabeth will not attend Easter Sunday service at Windsor, royal source says - CNN
[01:34]	DaemonFC	The queen went on light duty? LOL
[01:34]	DaemonFC	How much lighter does it get than waving at a football game?
[01:34]	matey	when one wasnt making breakfast for the prime minister
[01:35]	MinceR	is a human using a crane a god?
[01:35]	DaemonFC	Well, British breakfasts are as bad as the rest of it
[01:35]	matey	mincer: great question
[01:35]	DaemonFC	Those horrible Heinz beans.
[01:35]	DaemonFC	On toast.
[01:35]	matey	though so far my answers have suggested my answer is no
[01:35]	matey	on the other hand... im interested in the oldest god stories humanity has discovered
[01:35]	matey	wikipedia says those are: 2nd oldest: the epic of gilgamesh
[01:36]	matey	oldest: the pyramid scripts
[01:36]	matey	if you know an older one let me know
[01:36]	matey	in the epic of gilgamesh, (a story ripped off by the old testament about a homoerotic sun god, yay)
[01:36]	matey	i mean theres gay sex in it and everything
[01:36]	matey	with a BEAST MAN! woo hoo
[01:37]	matey	but first hes seduced by a prostitute-- and THIS from a lecture at harvard by a scholarly expert on the material!
[01:37]	DaemonFC	https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/gurgling-dash-sounds.157000/
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[01:37]	TR Bot	 Gurgling dash sounds... | Tacoma World
[01:37]	DaemonFC	My car started doing this today, but burping the coolant system seems to have fixed it.
[01:38]	MinceR	my guess would be An, Enlil, Ninhursag and Enki
[01:38]	matey	do you take the lid off then burp it like tupperware?
[01:38]	DaemonFC	I had a flush a few days ago and some air from the heater core seems to had finally worked its way loose and into the system.
[01:38]	matey	enkido! but the names keep getting updated 
[01:38]	DaemonFC	It goes "Whoosh! Glug glug glug!". It's not uncommon.
[01:38]	matey	thats what she said
[01:38]	MinceR	Enkidu != Enki
[01:38]	matey	good to know
[01:38]	DaemonFC	If it bothers you, you can just burp the system.
[01:39]	DaemonFC	It usually goes away, but not that fast.
[01:39]	matey	but this was enkidu
[01:39]	matey	so my point about bringing up the epic of gilgamesh was
[01:39]	matey	these gods may have used technology
[01:39]	matey	like powerful wristwatches or something
[01:39]	matey	bracelets
[01:39]	matey	we dont know
[01:39]	matey	so is a "human" with a crane a god?
[01:39]	MinceR	kara kesh
[01:39]	matey	in the epic of gilgamesh, maybe
[01:40]	matey	and what does this have to do with tech?
[01:40]	XRevan86	On contrast, I consider god a form of magic, and when something makes sense, it's not magic.
[01:40]	matey	the magic wristwatches were proprietary!
[01:40]	matey	<XRevan86> On contrast, I consider god a form of magic, and when something makes sense, it's not magic. <- yes but youre forcing consistency among data from very different sources
[01:40]	XRevan86	Magic doesn't exist practically by definition.
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[01:41]	matey	its a bit like expecting all electrodes to be cathodes, its arbitary and unfair.
[01:41]	matey	"if some electrodes are cathodes and some are anodes, then clearly 'electrodes' are a lot of hooey'"
[01:41]	MinceR	this is outrageous!
[01:42]	MinceR	it's unfair!
[01:42]	matey	your conclusion may be right but your categorisation doesnt seem fair
[01:42]	matey	by "fair" i mean "reasonable" and "not arbitrary"
[01:42]	MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL34_Oi5RH8
[01:42]	TR Bot	https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=qL34_Oi5RH8
[01:42]	TR Bot	invidious.namazso.eu | This is Outrageous it's unfair. [#1] - Invidious
[01:42]	matey	(in this context)
[01:42]	matey	/me doesnt even have to look, is sure its from labyrinth
[01:42]	XRevan86	If X doesn't exist and Y is a form of X, then Y doesn't exist.
[01:43]	matey	and Y is a form of X <- this is the step where you force everything into the same category, even if it isnt
[01:43]	matey	the statement isnt wrong, but i think there are things that dont fit that statement
[01:43]	MinceR	it's not from labyrinth
[01:43]	matey	and yorue lumping them together
[01:43]	matey	 <MinceR> it's not from labyrinth <-- well youre no fun, being unpredictable
[01:43]	MinceR	:>
[01:45]	matey	anyway god starts out simple, then humans make it complicated, because religion is a lot like software that way
[01:46]	matey	im not insisting god exists-- or that man didnt create god
[01:46]	matey	only that man cant leave anything simple :)
[01:46]	matey	but just because its insanely complicated now, doesnt mean the whole idea is nonsense
[01:46]	matey	it may be, but not for that reason.
[01:46]	matey	this is why i will likely never be a theological noncogniwhatsit
[01:47]	matey	to me it sounds like someone saying unix is nonsense because systemd exists
[01:47]	matey	and that too isnt fair :) 
[01:48]	XRevan86	matey: Fine, if we look at "god" as "magical dude who lives above the earth's disc", then sure, that's defined well enough.
[01:48]	matey	and these may be horrible misrepresentations of the arguments ive heard, but its not deliberate. i may misunderstand however
[01:48]	matey	"who lives above the earth's disc" <- now youre being cynical!
[01:49]	matey	i think the earth was round in the epic of gilgamesh
[01:49]	matey	unless it was crushed into a disc by all the epic lovemaking
[01:50]	XRevan86	matey: If I were cynical, I would've included cow tits and slime in there.
[01:50]	matey	i think song of solomon was more colourful, but lets face it he never got down to it, song of solomon was all foreplay
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[01:50]	matey	matey: If I were cynical, I would've included cow tits <- well, i mean cow tits are sacred and whatnot
[01:50]	matey	by virtue of being part of the cow
[01:51]	matey	incredibly if a cow is in the road you cant bother it 
[01:51]	XRevan86	Replace "cow" with "cat" and I'll agree.
[01:51]	matey	but if you need milk... then you can just go up and start grabbing its tits
[01:52]	matey	but if you need to get from a to be, youre out of luck
[01:52]	matey	you just have to sit there
[01:52]	matey	to try to nudge it out of the way would be incredibly rude
[01:53]	XRevan86	From a to be or from a not to be? That is the question.
[01:53]	matey	to do is to be
[01:53]	matey	to be is to do
[01:53]	matey	dooby dooby do
[01:53]	XRevan86	shoo bee doo
[01:55]	matey	i would say more shit has been done in the name of ridiculously complicated gods than because of simple ones
[01:55]	matey	but that might be a causal relationship
[01:55]	matey	i mean a lot of shit was done for simple gods too
[01:55]	matey	and the baptists for example, oversimplify a lot and only make things worse
[01:56]	psydruid	the lengths to which some people go to justify the resource hogging of LLVM makes me think that a whole generation of nominally free software but more likely open source developers is lost
[01:56]	matey	a whole generation of nominally free software but more likely open source developers <- that was the point
[01:56]	MinceR	what is "the earth's disc" -- is it the mass storage for the simulation we're living in?
[01:56]	matey	systemd was a cyberweapon, llvm is the systemd of compilers
[01:56]	MinceR	also, discs are rount
[01:56]	matey	<MinceR> what is "the earth's disc"  <- its MOSTLY porn
[01:57]	XRevan86	MinceR: A lot of shit has been done in the name of fictitious concerns.
[01:57]	matey	<MinceR> also, discs are rount <- aha! on this one i can beat you
[01:57]	MinceR	s/nt/nd/
[01:57]	matey	well, sort of
[01:58]	matey	 A lot of shit has been done in the name of fictitious concerns. <- fictitious concerns are better. you just tell people to do dumb shit and wave your hands a lot http://0pointer.net/blog/
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[01:59]	matey	you still have to explain why, but now its a lot less work and a lot more fun!
[01:59]	XRevan86	MinceR: Discs are circular, Earth is spherical.
[01:59]	matey	earth is round in more than one way, discs are (typically) round just one way
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[02:00]	matey	round along a single axis that is
[02:00]	matey	but mincer knows that, hes just fuckin with us
[02:00]	XRevan86	"Round" is not descriptive enough to point out the distinction as it means both.
[02:00]	MinceR	:>
[02:01]	matey	as to discs are round...
[02:01]	MinceR	https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/762/263/14d.gif
[02:01]	XRevan86	MinceR: I don't get it.
[02:03]	matey	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_Compact_Disc A shaped compact disc is a non-circular compact disc. Examples include business card CDs, CDs in the shape of a star, a map of a country, interview material and more. These disks are usually made for marketing purposes and are properly read by most CD-ROM drives (and audio CD players, although custom-shaped CDs tend to contain less data). There are many companies that sell CDs with custom shapes.
[02:03]	TR Bot	 Shaped compact disc - Wikipedia
[02:03]	MinceR	XRevan86: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/652/718/e9d.jpg
[02:03]	matey	so the flat earth could actually be shaped like one of those dick graffiti that you see all over eastern europe (and probably everywhere else too)
[02:04]	matey	(except singapore where they hang you for that)
[02:04]	matey	(and dont get the pun)
[02:04]	XRevan86	MinceR: Want to hear a vulgar Russian joke that's vaguely related to the spherical/circular debate? :)
[02:04]	MinceR	the bible mentions "the four corners of the earth", iirc
[02:04]	MinceR	XRevan86: yeah, but i don't understand much russian
[02:05]	matey	hopis also talk about the four corners of the earth
[02:05]	matey	well, the four directions
[02:05]	MinceR	not the same
[02:05]	matey	no
[02:05]	matey	but maybe one is a shitty translation
[02:05]	MinceR	or maybe the hopis are better at speculating about things they don't know
[02:05]	matey	theres also a rough approximation of pi in the bible
[02:05]	MinceR	yeah
[02:05]	MinceR	3.0
[02:06]	matey	maybe to figure out the circumference of the disc :)
[02:06]	MinceR	good job, "God"!
[02:06]	matey	or maybe the hopis are better at speculating about things they don't know <- maybe they just hopi theyure right
[02:07]	MinceR	:>
[02:07]	matey	hopi, and wishi, and prayi, and waiti
[02:07]	MinceR	wishful thinki
[02:08]	matey	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k
[02:08]	TR Bot	https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k
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[02:08]	matey	hinduism is still my favourite
[02:08]	matey	castes fucking suck though
[02:09]	MinceR	i prefer the religions in D&D and Pathfinder RPG
[02:10]	XRevan86	Petka approaches Basilivanych and asks: what's "nuance"?
[02:10]	XRevan86	Basilivanych says: "take off your pants, Petka", and so Petka did.
[02:10]	XRevan86	Then Basilivanych takes out his dick and inserts into the Petka's arse.
[02:10]	XRevan86	"Well look, Petka", he says, "you have a dick in the arse, and I have a dick in the arse, but there's a nuance.
[02:10]	matey	whats fun about that statement is someone will invariably say "ah but those arent REAL RELIGIONS"
[02:10]	matey	fun ensues
[02:10]	XRevan86	MinceR: ^ There it is.
[02:11]	matey	that joke works pretty well translated into english
[02:11]	MinceR	XRevan86: lol
[02:11]	MinceR	matey: lol
[02:12]	MinceR	that's like people talking about "real" gods vs "fictional" gods
[02:12]	matey	im going to kick myself if i never use that joke while explaining something
[02:12]	XRevan86	:D
[02:12]	matey	<MinceR> that's like people talking about "real" gods vs "fictional" god <- well, yes!
[02:12]	matey	but theres a nuance!
[02:13]	matey	actually i think we are mostly on the same page with this
[02:13]	XRevan86	So yea, Earth is round and discs are round, but there's a nuance :).
[02:13]	MinceR	:>
[02:13]	matey	but are dicks round?
[02:13]	XRevan86	Only in one axis.
[02:13]	matey	i mean theyre probably not in minecraft
[02:14]	XRevan86	Or rather, two axes I guess.
[02:16]	matey	what else should i be? all topologies
[02:18]	matey	/me wants fictional stories containing gods that arent found in stories considered non-fiction to be called "divine Inception"
[02:18]	XRevan86	To further improve the adaptation of the joke the names should be adapted to imply a business environment.
[02:19]	matey	and the business environment should be implemented in cobol and designed in uml
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[02:19]	MinceR	lol
[02:19]	XRevan86	matey: Obviously.
[02:20]	matey	its basically what grace hopper wrote it for
[02:20]	XRevan86	Code is not real code unless it can be represented in UML.
[02:21]	XRevan86	Next logical step: there's no real code :)
[02:21]	matey	/me writes everything on the back of a napkin and puts angle brackets on either side
[02:21]	matey	DONE!
[02:22]	matey	i am the opening bracket and the closing bracket. though shalt have no other modeling languages before me.
[02:22]	XRevan86	matey: SGML begs to differ
[02:22]	matey	heretic!
[02:23]	matey	/me doesnt actually care, probably mixed up uml and sgml already
[02:23]	matey	at least one of those has angle brackets, and uml is the one that people were more obsessed with i think
[02:24]	matey	which doesnt necessarily mean its the more universal one
[02:24]	matey	i think i installed a program once that let you do uml modeling
[02:24]	matey	just to see what-- i couldnt make anything out of it
[02:24]	matey	this was a very long time ago
[02:24]	XRevan86	matey: UML is a visual language, it has squares and stuff.
[02:24]	matey	like flowcharting
[02:25]	XRevan86	matey: Yes.
[02:25]	matey	sgml has tags (and this inspired html and xml?)
[02:25]	XRevan86	matey: HTML and XML are subsets of SGML.
[02:25]	matey	but uml is used for all kinds of processes, not just code 
[02:26]	XRevan86	So every HTML and XML are SGMLs.
[02:26]	matey	fun
[02:26]	matey	i thought it was implied, but ive never heard it confirmed
[02:27]	matey	i got very curious about it one day, looked at as much of it as possible, and failed to get any of it to inspire or accomplish anything useful for my own purposes
[02:27]	matey	probably around 2010 or so
[02:27]	matey	either way, uml is like sgml, but theres a nuance
[02:28]	matey	theyve both got ml in it!
[02:28]	matey	but ul and sgl are better 
[02:28]	matey	because they do entire litres
[02:30]	matey	i think there are two kinds of people who know about uml
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[02:30]	matey	those who know about it because they were forced to use it at some point
[02:30]	matey	and those who know about it because of a link on wikipedia
[02:31]	matey	theres no need to guess which group im from
[02:32]	matey	but i still think i installed a uml modeler at some point. i dont know what i thought it was going to do, but it didnt do it
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[02:33]	matey	maybe i expected to make a useful diagram of something with it
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[02:33]	matey	but dia and open/libreoffice draw are probably more straightforward for that
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[02:34]	matey	a flat earth would make things a lot easier for cartographers
[02:34]	matey	they could stop mapping everything to spheres and back to rectangles then
[02:35]	matey	maybe just use mspaint
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[02:38]	psydruid	or Kolourpaint compiled using LLVM after compiling that on your local supercomputer
[02:39]	matey	thats too farfetched :)
[02:39]	MinceR	flattening the earth would be a lot more difficult than using projections, though
[02:39]	MinceR	and a lot more expensive, too
[02:39]	matey	well i have to wonder
[02:39]	matey	there would be all those people who used to do projections looking for work
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[02:39]	matey	i wonder if they would petition to remap the disc back to a square or something
[02:40]	matey	just to have something to do and get paid
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[02:40]	psydruid	open cartography
[02:40]	matey	it would be pretty useless for navigation, but someone would prefer it
[02:40]	matey	because someone always does
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[02:40]	matey	probably the same people who think llvm is better than gcc despite being that much larger
[02:41]	matey	"gcc is obsolete, i like this orbital computing platform thats blotting out the sun so i can bootstrap my compiler"
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[02:42]	psydruid	a few years ago I came to the realization that I would have to build a system with at least 128 GB of RAM so I could build LLVM
[02:42]	matey	its great because we dont have to make new jokes, we can just use alt.humor.windows and recycle everything
[02:43]	matey	128 GB of RAM <- fuck that!
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[02:43]	matey	obviously if you want to compile llvm you have to use the clown
[02:44]	psydruid	where you have TBs of RAM
[02:44]	psydruid	that's an excellent choice
[02:44]	bnchs	i updated my system today
[02:44]	matey	and its the choice of a new generation!
[02:44]	bnchs	got greeted with my iconset being uhhhh
[02:44]	bnchs	all flat
[02:44]	bnchs	and some icons broken
[02:44]	matey	(old marketing slogan for pepsi)
[02:44]	bnchs	thats a good thing of arch to do
[02:44]	matey	 <bnchs> got greeted with my iconset being uhhhh <- youre the second, dfc beat you to it
[02:45]	matey	he was complaining about this a week ago
[02:45]	matey	go ahead, just thought id you tell you theres a club
[02:45]	psydruid	modern software engineering
[02:45]	matey	i dont use icons so
[02:45]	matey	i just delete them. sometimes a see a button with no icon
[02:45]	matey	if theyre sane theres a tooltip (better yet, a tooltip i can then turn off)
[02:46]	matey	since most of my gui software is:
[02:46]	matey	1. a browser
[02:46]	matey	2. a graphic editor
[02:46]	matey	3. a text editor
[02:46]	matey	and then a bunch of term windows (or text editors with shells)
[02:46]	matey	i dont need a lot of icons
[02:47]	matey	the graphic editor has its own visuals for whats what
[02:47]	matey	i bet in gtk4 they bullied gimp into using gtk4 icons instead
[02:47]	matey	just a guess
[02:47]	bnchs	and apparently
[02:47]	bnchs	emacs now has the name of the buffer in the title now
[02:48]	bnchs	and says GNU Emacs at [hostname]
[02:48]	matey	efoxs
[02:48]	bnchs	rather than a constant bland "emacs@[hostname]"
[02:48]	matey	emozs
[02:48]	matey	emacs also uses harfbuzz now
[02:48]	matey	from github
[02:48]	matey	as does everything gnome, i believe
[02:49]	psydruid	GNU Emacs at Microsoft Headquarters
[02:49]	matey	not yet
[02:49]	matey	but parts of elpa certainly
[02:49]	matey	and parts of emacs 
[02:51]	matey	this went down a couple weeks ago https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/private/discussion/
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[02:51]	matey	with no notice-- despite the email list behind it remaining operational
[02:51]	matey	its pococks mailing list
[02:52]	matey	he just won against fedora suing him
[02:52]	matey	it didnt go down then-- but a week or two later
[02:52]	DaemonFC	""Fuel system service" is one of the biggest scams at dealerships. Took my car to the dealer for one of the "free" oil changes when the car had only 20,000 miles on it. Service advisor finds me in the waiting room and says "We recommend a 4-wheel alignment, wheel balancing, and fuel system cleaning. The total for everything will be $600." I simply said "A car with 20,000 miles on it doesn't need any of that, so no thank you." They proceeded to 
[02:52]	DaemonFC	print on the service order that I "refused" those recommended services, and then proceeded to harass me via daily phone calls and text messages for two weeks after the appointment to come in and get those things done.
[02:52]	DaemonFC	GM simply pours a bottle of GM Fuel System Cleaner in it, which is literally rebranded Techron Concentrate. I can buy 2 bottles of that at the auto store for $12."
[02:52]	matey	i dont think its ibm, i think its pocock. but im still really curious
[02:53]	DaemonFC	Same thing happened to me the other day.
[02:53]	DaemonFC	They "offered" a $126 bottle of GM fuel system cleaner.
[02:53]	DaemonFC	I guess that's $6 for the cleaner and $120 for a mechanic to pour it in the gas tank.
[02:53]	DaemonFC	What kind of an idiot can't go get a can of Gumout and pour it in their gas tank?
[02:53]	matey	/me sends dfc packets of gm fuel system cleaner like samples of tide
[02:54]	DaemonFC	Techron doesn't do shit.
[02:54]	DaemonFC	The BMW stealerships rebrand it too as "BMW fuel system cleaner" and were charging $180 for it last time I looked.
[02:54]	DaemonFC	KIA does it too.
[02:54]	bnchs	matey: one of the fun things about emacs is the games and fun shit about it
[02:55]	bnchs	like emacs psychotherapist
[02:55]	bnchs	zone out which fucked up your text with some effects
[02:55]	DaemonFC	It's a profit center for dealers because they don't have to do anything to make the money. Open the gas tank and down the hatch.
[02:55]	matey	of course the bmw rebrand would cost more than the gm brand, thats how intellectual-- legal handwaving works!
[02:55]	matey	the insurance on it also runs higher
[02:56]	DaemonFC	THey charged her $500 for a car battery.
[02:56]	DaemonFC	Sounds like they let her off light.
[02:56]	DaemonFC	Ford wanted me to buy a $400 car battery in 2005.
[02:56]	DaemonFC	:)
[02:57]	DaemonFC	I told them leave it running and took it over to Walmart and paid $80.
[02:57]	matey	by the way, bnchs now has his icons "renovated" as well
[02:57]	bnchs	yeah
[02:57]	matey	im not sure if gnome is involved, he did an "update"
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[02:57]	bnchs	using xfce
[02:57]	bnchs	with adwaita icon set
[02:58]	DaemonFC	"$700 for a tow, a battery, and some snake oil. Did they at least buy her breakfast in the morning?"
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[03:13]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I rewrote my review of Batteries Plus.
[03:13]	DaemonFC	"The store owner here is a very odd fellow indeed. He's also quite badly tempered.
[03:13]	DaemonFC	I brought my 2008 Buick Lacrosse in for a new car battery and he upsold me a second key and a remote and I figured "Why not? I did only get one when I bought it." which is actually quite common on older cars where grandma forgot where she put her keys. 
[03:13]	DaemonFC	This car is in exceptional condition for its age and so clean you can eat off of it, however Bhushan Chouhan, the owner, blamed my car when his key (defective, per Anthony Buick, where I had to go get the work redone correctly) stopped working.
[03:13]	DaemonFC	The Buick dealer today told me that Batteries Plus sells junk car keys and that whoever cut it didn't even cut the physical part correctly, and the transponder inside was not accepting the coding correctly. It would work for a minute or two and then the car would forget it because it's a non-genuine key. Aftermarket crap.
[03:13]	DaemonFC	When I had Anthony Buick make me a key, the key worked, and continues to work fine. I also had to have them give me a remote control that works because Mr. Chouhan at Batteries Plus went further when trying to correct his key that didn't work, and deauthorized my remote in the process, so I had to pay Buick $168 today. Should have gone there to begin with.
[03:13]	DaemonFC	I also bought a car battery from Mr. Chouhan, which seems to work okay for now. I hope that the warranty is honored at their other stores if I have to use it, because Mr. Chouhan does not accept responsibility for his work and find time (even though he doesn't seem to have very many customers while I was there) to make things right, and also refused to issue a full refund for his insufficiently operable generic products. When I demanded a 
[03:14]	DaemonFC	refund, he called me at my home while I was having dinner with my spouse, babbling incoherently, screaming, and lobbing all sorts of verbal abuse, including claiming that he would call the police on me. For what, I am not sure. Orderly Conduct?
[03:14]	DaemonFC	Anyway, if you get security keys cut here, you may find out that they just mysteriously stop working, and hopefully you're either at home or at a safe place where you can have your car towed from when it happens.
[03:14]	DaemonFC	Or you can go to your authorized dealer and get the job done right, with nobody threatening you.
[03:14]	DaemonFC	After he refused to refund the programming fee, I have decided to escalate this issue through the appropriate channels.
[03:14]	DaemonFC	From my understanding, having read the Better Business Bureau complaints of Batteries Plus in general, most of their stores appear to me as though they operate much like Mr. Chouhan's locations. Many customers at other stores have complained that the Duracell car batteries in particular don't last very long and some of the people at the stores start getting squirrely when the customer asked for a warranty replacement.
[03:14]	DaemonFC	So take this for what it is. Even Walmart will honor the warranty terms on their car batteries, and many vehicles I've owned ran fine with Walmart car batteries for years.
[03:14]	DaemonFC	Another thing that Batteries Plus did was claim "free installation" of car batteries when you bought them from their store, and then when I got down there at least, Mr. Chouhan decided that there would be another $50 in "difficult installation fees" because he had to move a battery bar and a fuse box out of the way that involved all of about four nuts (well, again in my opinion, five if you include him) and the battery terminals."
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[03:28]	AltLink_c52c	[:J] bnchs Sorry about that - just testing new Encryption method ( 'Confidential' checkbox of 'Reply to' link https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/29 )
[03:28]	AltLink_c52c	[:J] There is no 'autonomous bug report' - all issues are posted by living flesh (or attacker's bad robot)
[03:28]	TR Bot	 Encrypted message (#29) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
[03:30]	MinceR	metal, surrounded by living tissue
[03:32]	AltLink_c52c	[:J] https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/e/e6/Fallout4_Render_SynthGen2.jpg/revision/latest
[03:32]	MinceR	:)
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[06:34]	DaemonFC	<MinceR> metal, surrounded by living tissue
[06:35]	DaemonFC	That's one way to describe my mom. (They put a metal plate in her leg after she fell and broke it.)
[06:36]	DaemonFC	They never explained how the T-1000 survived the time machine but the T-3000 couldn't.
[06:37]	DaemonFC	Liquid metal and machine phase matter are both inorganic.
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[06:48]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, April 16, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[06:48]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[06:48]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[06:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[06:54]	TR News	"I've been using VMWare Workstation at work for a long time now." Ewww... https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/VirtualizationWithGUIWants | Source: uni Toronto
[06:54]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/VirtualizationWithGUIWants https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/VirtualizationWithGUIWants
[06:54]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/VirtualizationWithGUIWants
[06:55]	TR News	"My preferred method for deploying webapps is to have the webapp listen directly on port 443, without any sort of standalone web server or HTTP reverse proxy in front" https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/using_sni_proxying_and_ipv6_to_share_port_443 | Source: Ayer
[06:55]	TR Bot	 How I'm Using SNI Proxying and IPv6 to Share Port 443 Between Webapps
[06:55]	TR News	"Raspberry Pi with an AMD Radeon 5450" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/how-run-glmark2-drm-benchmark-external-gpu-on-raspberry-pi | Source: Jeff Geerling
[06:55]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jeffgeerling.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/how-run-glmark2-drm-benchmark-external-gpu-on-raspberry-pi https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/how-run-glmark2-drm-benchmark-external-gpu-on-raspberry-pi
[06:55]	TR Bot	 How to run glmark2-drm to benchmark an external GPU on a Raspberry Pi | Jeff Geerling
[06:56]	TR News	"Another good question. Why a fourteen-year-old program that doesn't even support CSS 3.0?" https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kompozer-linux.html | Source: Dedoimedo
[06:56]	TR Bot	 How to install and use KompoZer in Linux - Tutorial
[06:57]	TR News	"In a recently accepted paper in the open access journal Quantitative Methods for Psychology that Daniel Schad led, we discuss how, using Bayes rule" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/ever-wondered-how-the-probability-of-the-null-hypothesis-being-true-changes-given-a-significant-result/ | Source: Rlang
[06:57]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: r-bloggers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/ever-wondered-how-the-probability-of-the-null-hypothesis-being-true-changes-given-a-significant-result/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/ever-wondered-how-the-probability-of-the-null-hypothesis-being-true-changes-given-a-significant-result/
[06:57]	TR Bot	wondered how the probability of the null hypothesis being true changes given a significant result? | R-bloggers
[06:57]	TR News	"When hiring developers, there are many things we are looking for, but over the years I have found that raw coding ability is easily the most important quality to look for." https://freakingrectangle.wordpress.com/2022/04/15/how-to-freaking-hire-great-developers/ |
[06:57]	TR Bot	 How to Freaking Find Great Developers By Having Them Read Code | Freaking Rectangle
[06:58]	TR News	"The usual way of error checking in C, where you check the return and only then look at errno, works when you use it, but its possible to construct cases with surprising results" https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/cgo-does-clear-errno | Source: Ted Unangst
[06:58]	TR Bot	 cgo does clear errno
[06:58]	TR News	"One advantage of the Wiener construction is that the Kuratowski pair has an odd degenerate case: if !!a=b!! it is not really a pair at all, it's a singleton." https://blog.plover.com/2022/04/15/ | Source: Mark Dominus
[06:58]	TR Bot	 The Universe of Discourse : Unordered pairs la Wiener
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[07:03]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Saturday, April 16, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/irc-log-160422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/irc-log-160422/
[07:03]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, April 16, 2022 | Techrights
[07:08]	TR News	"The problem isnt Twitter doing something to them; the problem is the people on Twitter doing something to them." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-quick-thought-on-musk-buying-twitter/ | Source: Daniel Miessler
[07:08]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: danielmiessler.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-quick-thought-on-musk-buying-twitter/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-quick-thought-on-musk-buying-twitter/
[07:08]	TR Bot	 A Quick Thought on Musk Buying Twitter - Daniel Miessler
[07:09]	TR News	"With over 530,000 registered members, according to threat intelligence firm Recorded Future," https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/politics/raidforums-seizure/index.html | Source: CNN
[07:09]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/politics/raidforums-seizure/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/politics/raidforums-seizure/index.html
[07:09]	TR Bot	FBI and international partners seize control of popular hacking forum - CNNPolitics
[07:09]	TR News	"Raidforums.com, along with Raid.ws and Raid.lol domains used by the site, were seized by the U.S. Department of Justice" https://siliconangle.com/2022/04/12/raidforums-hacking-forum-take-offline-founder-indicted/ | Source: Silicon Angle
[07:09]	TR Bot	hacking forum take offline and founder indicted - SiliconANGLE
[07:12]	TR News	"In a parallel statement, Europol also lauded the takedown saying the RaidForums online marketplace had been seized in an operation" https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-european-partners-announce-takedown-hacker-website-raidforums-2022-04-12/ | Source: Reuters
[07:12]	TR Bot	and European partners take down hacker website RaidForums | Reuters
[07:13]	TR News	"This post assumes that you possess some familiarity with zero-knowledge proofs." https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/04/15/the-frozen-heart-vulnerability-in-bulletproofs/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
[07:13]	TR Bot	 The Frozen Heart vulnerability in Bulletproofs | Trail of Bits Blog
[07:13]	TR News	"So heres how this will go, folks. Ill show you a screenshot of the site, and the date it existed." https://kevq.uk/the-design-history-of-this-website/ | Source: Kev Quirk
[07:13]	TR Bot	 The Design History of This Website - Kev Quirk
[07:13]	TR News	"Want to write a new Wikipedia article but can't think of a subject not already covered?" https://blog.plover.com/2022/04/16/#missing | Source: Mark Dominus
[07:13]	TR Bot	 The Universe of Discourse : Notable items missing from English Wikipedia
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[07:15]	TR News	"Together with Dell Technologies, we deliver world-leading Open Source solutions and services that capitalize on the benefits of Open Source" https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-dell-technologies-world-2022 | Source: Ubuntu
[07:15]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-dell-technologies-world-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-dell-technologies-world-2022
[07:15]	TR Bot	at Dell Technologies World 2022 | Ubuntu
[07:18]	TR News	"According to sources, the thinking is that if a digital currency has to have the utility of paper currency" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/rbis-digital-currency-to-have-anonymity-feature-for-low-value-transactions/90873355 | Source: India Times
[07:18]	TR Bot	 RBI's digital currency to have anonymity feature for low value transactions, CIO News, ET CIO
[07:18]	TR News	[Old] "Nearly 70% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles were found to contain hardcoded DNS settings" https://labzilla.io/blog/force-dns-pihole |
[07:18]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: labzilla.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://labzilla.io/blog/force-dns-pihole https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://labzilla.io/blog/force-dns-pihole
[07:18]	TR Bot	 Your Smart TV is probably ignoring your PiHole - LabZilla
[07:21]	TR News	"Video conferencing apps (VCAs) make it possible for previously private spaces" https://wiscprivacy.com/papers/vca_mute.pdf |
[07:22]	TR News	"They found that all of the apps they tested occasionally gather raw audio data while mute is activated, with one popular app gathering information" https://techxplore.com/news/2022-04-youre-muted-videoconferencing-apps-mic.html | Source: TechXplore
[07:22]	TR Bot	 You're muted... or are you? Videoconferencing apps may listen even when mic is off
[07:22]	TR News	[Old] "In the twentieth century, photography enabled the mass reproduction of art works, broadening their accessibility while degrading their individual impact." https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/have-iphone-cameras-become-too-smart | Source: New Yorker
[07:22]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newyorker.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/have-iphone-cameras-become-too-smart https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/have-iphone-cameras-become-too-smart
[07:22]	TR Bot	 Have iPhone Cameras Become Too Smart? | The New Yorker
[07:22]	TR News	LXQt 1.1.0 Officially Released with File Manager DBus Support, New Themes and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163810
[07:22]	TR Bot	 LXQt 1.1.0 Officially Released with File Manager DBus Support, New Themes and More | Tux Machines
[07:27]	TR News	"McNallys idea for how to implement a tracking system is quite unique, as it involves placing a particulate matter-sensing package" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/15/tracking-the-harmful-particulate-pollution-from-wildfires-intelligently/ | Source: Arduino
[07:27]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/15/tracking-the-harmful-particulate-pollution-from-wildfires-intelligently/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/15/tracking-the-harmful-particulate-pollution-from-wildfires-intelligently/
[07:27]	TR Bot	 Tracking the harmful particulate pollution from wildfires intelligently | Arduino Blog
[07:30]	TR News	"In other words, we can say that its nothing but a safe and reliable database of records." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/5-reasons-to-become-a-blockchain-developer/ | Source: Geeks For Geeks
[07:30]	TR Bot	 5 Reasons to Become a Blockchain Developer - GeeksforGeeks
[07:30]	TR News	"This RfC was open to community input between January 10, 2022 and April 12, 2022." https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Stop_accepting_cryptocurrency_donations |
[07:30]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Stop_accepting_cryptocurrency_donations https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Stop_accepting_cryptocurrency_donations
[07:30]	TR Bot	 Requests for comment/Stop accepting cryptocurrency donations - Meta
[07:33]	TR News	"So much for that. Add an unexpected family death into the mix. At least this is all getting out of the way while I'm young." gemini://harrison.cafe/it-pours-2
[07:34]	TR News	"Perhaps related to this, Ive drastically reduced my participation in and consumption of social media over the last several months." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220416_updating_inconsistently
[07:36]	TR News	"Leysner is one of the tens of thousands of victims of what the Dutch have dubbed the toeslagenaffaire, or the child care benefits scandal." https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-scandal-serves-as-a-warning-for-europe-over-risks-of-using-algorithms/ | Source: Politico
[07:36]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: politico.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-scandal-serves-as-a-warning-for-europe-over-risks-of-using-algorithms/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-scandal-serves-as-a-warning-for-europe-over-risks-of-using-algorithms/
[07:36]	TR Bot	 Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks of using algorithms POLITICO
[07:36]	TR News	"The French Presidency is aiming to loosen restrictions on law enforcement use of "artificial intelligence" technology" https://www.statewatch.org/news/2022/april/eu-ai-act-plans-to-loosen-controls-on-law-enforcement-use-of-artificial-intelligence/ | Source: State Watch
[07:36]	TR Bot	 Statewatch | EU: AI Act: Plans to loosen controls on law enforcement use of artificial intelligence
[07:36]	TR News	[Old] "The European Union institutions are taking the significant step to regulate artificial intelligence systems" https://edri.org/our-work/civil-society-calls-on-the-eu-to-ban-predictive-ai-systems-in-policing-and-criminal-justice-in-the-ai-act/ | Source: EDRI
[07:36]	TR Bot	 Civil society calls on the EU to ban predictive AI systems in policing and criminal justice in the AI Act - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[07:36]	TR News	"This month marked my first time filing taxes in two countries, and I can assure you it is the worst." https://drewdevault.com/2022/04/15/Status-update-April-2022.html | Source: Drew DeVault
[07:36]	TR Bot	timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://drewdevault.com/2022/04/15/Status-update-April-2022.html )
[07:37]	TR News	"Following a suspension last month, major streaming site Lookmovie was forced to switch to a new domain." https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-pounce-on-new-lookmovie-domain-plus-streaming-iptv-sites-220416/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[07:37]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-pounce-on-new-lookmovie-domain-plus-streaming-iptv-sites-220416/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-pounce-on-new-lookmovie-domain-plus-streaming-iptv-sites-220416/
[07:37]	TR Bot	Pounce on New Lookmovie Domain Plus Streaming & IPTV Sites * TorrentFreak
[07:49]	TR News	"Yishan Wong, who was Reddits chief executive officer for more than two years between 2012 and 2014" https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/former-reddit-chief-says-elon-musk-is-in-for-a-world-of-pain-over-twitter-takeover/news-story/8cf22f9b4996eb4d4498f15bc76f006d | Source: News AU
[07:49]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/former-reddit-chief-says-elon-musk-is-in-for-a-world-of-pain-over-twitter-takeover/news-story/8cf22f9b4996eb4d4498f15bc76f006d )
[07:49]	TR News	"Despite the recent revelation of Musks stake in the company, hes been buying shares since the end of January." https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-shareholder-purchase/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
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[07:49]	TR Bot	 We Dont Need Billionaires Like Elon Musk
[07:49]	TR News	"But Killing added that information, as always, must be fact-checked" https://www.voanews.com/a/defeating-censorship-about-war-in-ukraine-a-focus-of-ted-conference/6532061.html | Source: VOA News
[07:49]	TR Bot	 Defeating Censorship About War in Ukraine a Focus of TED Conference
[07:50]	TR News	"When it comes to manga, censorship will always be an issue needing closer examination, and reports of it happening seem to grow by the month." https://comicbook.com/anime/news/manga-censorship-controversy-religion-cult/ | Source: Comic Book
[07:50]	TR Bot	 New Religious Manga Publisher Pulls Series Despite Censorship Protests
[07:51]	TR News	"There are two ways to look at the BBFC. One is as an organisation that does what it says, and classifies things." https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/04/13/the-classification-of-films-is-changing | Source: The Economist
[07:51]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/04/13/the-classification-of-films-is-changing https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/04/13/the-classification-of-films-is-changing
[07:51]	TR Bot	classification of films is changing | The Economist
[07:53]	TR News	"Now your generation is at the forefront of another breakthrough" https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/gen-z-join-labor-movement-change-the-world-union-organizing/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
[07:53]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jacobinmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/gen-z-join-labor-movement-change-the-world-union-organizing/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/gen-z-join-labor-movement-change-the-world-union-organizing/
[07:53]	TR Bot	 Dear Gen Z: Now Is the Time to Join the Labor Movement and Change the World
[07:55]	TR News	no javascript present https://projects.rys.io/ukrainvasion/
[07:55]	TR Bot	 Slides of Russian Invasion of Ukraine
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[08:02]	TR News	"If youre an experienced hacker, youve probably run into a problem at some point and thought lets make a tool to automate that." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/a-neat-little-tool-to-reset-the-fuses-on-your-attiny/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:02]	TR Bot	Neat Little Tool To Reset The Fuses On Your ATtiny | Hackaday
[08:02]	TR News	"The days of yore saw telex machines and dot-matrix printers with continuous feed paper churning out data in hardcopy form in offices around the world." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/rss-printer-gives-you-the-hard-copy-news-you-desire/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:02]	TR Bot	Printer Gives You The Hard Copy News You Desire | Hackaday
[08:02]	TR News	Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to SAS Enterprise Miner Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163811
[08:02]	TR Bot	 Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to SAS Enterprise Miner | Tux Machines
[08:03]	TR News	"Im a huge DIYer. I dont like to buy things when I can build them myself." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/easy-extensible-open/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:03]	TR Bot	Extensible, Open | Hackaday
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[08:22]	TR News	"Having a pool is great, but it also requires significant monitoring and maintenance to keep it crystal clear and clean." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/iot-pool-monitor-helps-you-keep-it-crystal-clear/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:22]	TR Bot	Pool Monitor Helps You Keep It Crystal Clear | Hackaday
[08:23]	TR News	"Input devices consisting of optical readers for punched paper tape have been around since the earliest days of computing, so why stop now?" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/paper-tape-reader-self-calibrates-speaks-usb/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:23]	TR Bot	Tape Reader Self-calibrates, Speaks USB | Hackaday
[08:23]	TR News	"Im often asked whether consumers are better or worse off since the modern consumer movement took hold in the nineteen sixties" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/16/consumer-protection-progress-and-regress-sixties-now | Source: Common Dreams
[08:23]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/16/consumer-protection-progress-and-regress-sixties-now https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/16/consumer-protection-progress-and-regress-sixties-now
[08:23]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Consumer Protection Progress and Regress From the Sixties to Now | Ralph Nader
[08:23]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163813
[08:23]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:24]	TR News	Microsoft is organised crime https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-faces-antitrust-complaint-in-europe-about-its-cloud-services-11647463334 wsj paywall
[08:24]	TR Bot	Faces Antitrust Complaint in Europe About Its Cloud Services - WSJ
[08:24]	TR News	Snap! https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/do-ubuntu's-snap-deserve-so-much:1
[08:24]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/do-ubuntu's-snap-deserve-so-much:1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/do-ubuntu's-snap-deserve-so-much:1
[08:24]	TR Bot	 Do Ubuntu's Snap Deserve So Much Negativity?
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[08:27]	TR News	New York City https://truthout.org/articles/luxury-building-workers-in-new-york-city-authorize-strike/ | Source: TruthOut
[08:27]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/luxury-building-workers-in-new-york-city-authorize-strike/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/luxury-building-workers-in-new-york-city-authorize-strike/
[08:27]	TR Bot	 Luxury Building Workers in New York City Authorize Strike
[08:29]	TR News	Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Oracle MySQL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163812
[08:29]	TR Bot	 Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Oracle MySQL | Tux Machines
[08:30]	TR News	EC-R3568PC is a compact rugged mini PC based on Rockchip RK3568 SoC https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/17/ec-r3568pc-compact-rugged-mini-pc-rockchip-rk3568/
[08:30]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/17/ec-r3568pc-compact-rugged-mini-pc-rockchip-rk3568/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/17/ec-r3568pc-compact-rugged-mini-pc-rockchip-rk3568/
[08:30]	TR Bot	 EC-R3568PC is a compact rugged mini PC based on Rockchip RK3568 SoC - CNX Software
[08:34]	TR News	No mobile phone is good for privacy, due to the topology of the disservice https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html
[08:34]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: dreamwidth.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html
[08:34]	TR Bot	 mjg59 | The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy
[08:36]	TR News	Why did TechRadar REPOST (date change) this sensationalist, misleading garbage??? https://www.techradar.com/news/multiple-vulnerabilities-put-40-million-ubuntu-users-at-risk
[08:36]	TR Bot	vulnerabilities put 40 million Ubuntu users at risk | TechRadar
[08:37]	TR News	"Windows Defender is a b!t@h.. just bends right over and takes it up rear input.. Emsisoft is a joke... won't find anything until AFTER its found by something else... I've manually quarantined more files than it has done." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771042/somebodys-screwing-with-me/
[08:37]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771042/somebodys-screwing-with-me/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771042/somebodys-screwing-with-me/
[08:37]	TR Bot	 Somebody's screwing with me - Virus, Trojan, Spyware, and Malware Removal Help
[08:39]	TR News	"We have lots of feedback on Pop!_OS, keyboard shortcuts, and backup scripts. We also have comments on installing Linux on Asus computers and talk about some Elementary news" https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp422
[08:39]	TR Bot	 Going Linux Shownotes
[08:40]	TR News	"Now that I'm back on Pipewire it's time to fix my terrible audio solution and setup a patchbay, and since my original stint on Pipewire there are now some native pipewire patchbays like Qpwgraph which work really well." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDBGsbwMo40
[08:40]	TR Bot	https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=TDBGsbwMo40
[08:40]	TR Bot	invidious.osi.kr | Qpwgraph: Easiest Way To Reroute Pipewire Audio - Invidious
[08:43]	TR News	LOL. Branding mice "mac" and "gaming". They're generic mice, stop with this BS. What next? Mice for women and mice for men? https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2022/04/16/computer-mouse-selection/
[08:43]	TR Bot	 Computer Mouse Selection Jon's FOSS Blog
[08:44]	TR News	Todays cars arent made to last long or respect the will of drivers/owners/buyers; this is a very big deal! http://techrights.org/2022/04/16/modern-cars/
[08:44]	TR Bot	 You Probably Dont Want Modern Cars | Techrights
[08:44]	TR News	Twitter tells me that more than a month after I left entirely the number of so-called impressions suddenly quadrupled (or more); this might suggest doctoring by Twitter (which wants to inflate its perceived value) http://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Twitter is Not as Important as the Media Wants Us to Believe | Techrights
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[08:49]	TR News	What Is A Chromebook? How Does It Compare To Windows & Mac? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163814
[08:49]	TR Bot	 What Is A Chromebook? How Does It Compare To Windows & Mac? | Tux Machines
[08:49]	TR News	Ubuntu vs Arch Linux for Performance, Gaming & Programming Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163815
[08:49]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu vs Arch Linux for Performance, Gaming & Programming | Tux Machines
[08:52]	TR News	TechRadar is RE-posting old junk. I think it's a form of SEO abuse.
[08:52]	TR News	Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163816
[08:52]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:52]	TR News	Essentially free Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163817
[08:52]	TR Bot	 Essentially free | Tux Machines
[08:53]	TR News	How I scan family photos on Linux | https://opensource.com/article/22/4/scan-family-photos-linux Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
[08:53]	TR Bot	I scan family photos on Linux | Opensource.com
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[08:57]	TR News	"Lots and lots of non-fiction in this mix. Maybe a tiny bit better than normal at not buying tons of books that I don't have time to read, although my reading (and particularly my reviewing) rate has been a bit slow lately." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2022-04/001.html
[08:57]	TR Bot	 Eagle's Path: First 2022 haul post (2022-04-16)
[08:57]	TR News	Any PROFOUND practical benefit? Probably not... patent evergreening https://linuxgizmos.com/broadcom-introduces-worlds-first-wi-fi-7-chipset-solutions/
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[08:57]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/broadcom-introduces-worlds-first-wi-fi-7-chipset-solutions/ )
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[09:00]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163818
[09:00]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[09:53]	TR News	http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/slow-news-easter/
[09:53]	TR Bot	 Links 17/04/2022: Slow News Easter | Techrights
[09:54]	TR News	Links 17/04/2022: Slow News Easter | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/slow-news-easter/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/slow-news-easter/
[09:54]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163819
[09:54]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[09:54]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163820
[09:54]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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[10:01]	TR News	"Turns out that for a few use cases, the Steam Deck might actually be the best handheld out there to play Nintendo games. A Steam Deck owner on Twitter has shown how the Deck controls are ideally suited to support the Metroid Prime Trilogy." https://boilingsteam.com/metroid-prime-trilogy-a-great-fit-for-the-steam-deck/
[10:01]	TR Bot	 Metroid Prime Trilogy: A Great Fit for the Steam Deck - Boiling Steam
[10:04]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163821
[10:04]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[10:06]	AltLink_c52c	 Update | Cloudflare Domains (April 2022) | https://archive.org/details/crimeflare
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Cloudflare Domains (April 2022) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
[10:12]	TR News	How and Why David Revoy Moved to Free Software | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/david-revoy-freesw/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/david-revoy-freesw/
[10:12]	TR Bot	 How and Why David Revoy Moved to Free Software | Techrights
[10:15]	TR News	Double-Masked, Double Purpose (or How to Compel Selfish People and COVIDiots to Respect Social Distance) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/17/social-distance/
[10:15]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Double-Masked, Double Purpose (or How to Compel Selfish People and COVIDiots to Respect Social Distance)
[10:16]	Techrights-sec	you can hear the improvement in sound quality now
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[10:20]	Techrights-sec	will be able to check the sound later today
[10:23]	TR News	Reuters was printing lies for criminals from the EPO half a decade ago. This is a lie. And not only that; EPO violates the EPC. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-patent-usa-idUSKCN11K2SB
[10:23]	TR Bot	issues better patents than U.S.: Europe patent boss | Reuters
[10:24]	TR News	No, they don't give a crap about the European Patent Convention (EPC). They routinely violate it. https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1112360/europct-patent-application-route
[10:24]	TR Bot	 Euro-PCT Patent Application Route - Intellectual Property - UK
[10:25]	TR News	Borders are guarded better by ensuring neighbours have no incentive to escape. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/bidens-plan-to-end-border-wall-work-draws-appeal-by-arizona
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[10:25]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[10:26]	TR News	Prepear is not an apple https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1162272/comparing-apples-with-pears-again
[10:26]	TR Bot	 Comparing Apples With Pears (Again?) - Intellectual Property - UK
[10:30]	TR News	Charging you even more for legally-invalid patents https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1160516/epo-to-increase-official-fees-from-1-april-2022
[10:30]	TR Bot	 EPO To Increase Official Fees From 1 April 2022 - Intellectual Property - UK
[10:31]	TR News	Nokia is operating via patent trolls these days; this is what Microsoft turned Nokia into... https://www.worldipreview.com/news/continental-loses-automotive-patent-pool-suit-22142
[10:31]	TR Bot	 Continental loses automotive patent pool suit
[10:32]	TR News	"South Korea-based Samsung and Irish company Solas OLED have agreed to settle a patent suit, less than half a year after Samsung lost challenges against the finding that it owes approximately $77 million." https://www.worldipreview.com/news/samsung-and-solas-seek-to-settle-patent-dispute-22164
[10:32]	TR Bot	 Samsung and Solas seek to settle patent dispute
[10:33]	TR News	USPTO stops fast-track patent examinations from Rospatent <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.worldipreview.com/news/uspto-stops-fast-track-patent-examinations-from-rospatent-22176"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
[10:33]	TR Bot	 USPTO stops fast-track patent examinations from Rospatent
[10:35]	TR News	They've managed to put patent litigation ahead of actual innovation as the priority https://www.mondaq.com/france/patent/1171148/what-are-patent-prosecution-highway-pph-programmes-and-should-you-be-using-them
[10:35]	TR Bot	 What Are Patent Prosecution Highway (PPH) Programmes And Should You Be Using Them? - Intellectual Property - France
[10:36]	TR News	Watch out, Rocky Linux? https://www.mondaq.com/trademark/1172372/rocky-opposition-knocked-out-by-concept-of-trademark-neutralisation
[10:36]	TR Bot	 Rocky Opposition Knocked Out By Concept Of Trademark Neutralisation - Intellectual Property - European Union
[10:37]	TR News	"The US Patent and Trademark Office has announced that it will no longer grant requests from Russias IP office to participate in the Global Patent Prosecution Highway." https://www.worldipreview.com/news/uspto-stops-fast-track-patent-examinations-from-rospatent-22176
[10:55]	TR News	The mole at the USPTO (Iancu) did its damage https://www.iam-media.com/in-house-operations/unified-patents-ipr-filings-shrink-case-outcomes-show-impact-npes see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu
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[10:55]	TR Bot	 Unified Patents' IPR filings shrink, but case outcomes show impact on NPEs - IAM
[10:55]	TR Bot	 Andrei Iancu - Techrights
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[10:57]	TR News	My common Gemini crawler pitfalls gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/16.1
[10:58]	TR News	2022-04-16: 10,000 years in real life and in popular culture gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/
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[11:46]	XRevan86	https://t.me/smirusnews/7578 More 1984 give-aways from Dimitry Silin.
[11:46]	TR Bot	 Telegram: Contact @smirusnews
[11:57]	TR News	Team UPC and Corrupt EPO Management Have Fast Become a Severe Crisis of Legitimacy for the European Union | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/crisis-of-legitimacy-eu-upc-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/crisis-of-legitimacy-eu-upc-epo/
[11:57]	TR Bot	 Team UPC and Corrupt EPO Management Have Fast Become a Severe Crisis of Legitimacy for the European Union | Techrights
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[12:11]	TR News	[Meme] Nobody Hates the EPOs Patent Examination More Than Team UPC (Shoehorning Fake Patents, Then Fake Courts) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/upc-npc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/upc-npc/
[12:11]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Nobody Hates the EPOs Patent Examination More Than Team UPC (Shoehorning Fake Patents, Then Fake Courts) | Techrights
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[12:25]	TR News	[Meme] The Boy (or Bristows) Who Cried Wolf | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/bristows-cried-wolf/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/bristows-cried-wolf/
[12:25]	TR Bot	 [Meme] The Boy (or Bristows) Who Cried Wolf | Techrights
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[12:44]	bnchs	the trash bin icon doesn't have transparency
[12:44]	bnchs	nice arch
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[13:31]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: is that an important feature?
[13:32]	bnchs	arch linux's new adwaita iconset update
[13:32]	bnchs	has many important differences
[13:32]	bnchs	1) broken icons
[13:32]	bnchs	2) different icon styles
[13:32]	bnchs	3) no transparency on some icons
[13:32]	bnchs	1) some icons are broken*
[13:40]	activelow	https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html
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[13:40]	TR Bot	 mjg59 | The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy
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[13:57]	TR News	Top Apache projects in 2021: From Superset, to NuttX https://thestack.technology/top-apache-projects-in-2021-from-superset-to-nuttx/ Source: thestack
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[13:57]	TR Bot	 Top Apache projects in 2021: From Superset, to NuttX
[13:58]	TR News	False dichotomy: "low-wage workers" and "careers in tech" https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/04/n26638094/the-hg-foundation-backs-merit-america-to-help-low-wage-workers-access-careers-in-tech many tech jos are low paid
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[13:58]	TR Bot	Hg Foundation backs Merit America to help low-wage workers access careers in tech - Benzinga
[13:59]	TR News	As if they didn't know what voters the GOP targets... https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2022/04/14/vermont-leaders-respond-attacks-lgbtq-vermonters/7315954001/
[13:59]	TR Bot	 Vermont leaders respond to attacks on LGBTQ+ Vermonters
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[14:00]	TR News	Old tactics: pretend that even atheists are religious nuts. For expressing technical opposition to a technical issue. https://venturebeat.com/2012/12/07/president-of-the-free-software-foundation-unleashes-old-testament-wrath-on-ubuntu-linux-spyware/
[14:00]	TR Bot	of the Free Software Foundation unleashes Old Testament wrath on Ubuntu Linux "spyware" | VentureBeat
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[14:02]	TR News	"To be honest, I hadn't even considered the environmental consequences of my reading medium - perhaps when my kids are a bit older (they've just turned 5) they'll also help me think harder about such things!" gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-10-30-Ebooks-in-Gopherspace-(reply-to-dgold).txt
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[14:24]	MinceR	brokenness is what you should expect of arch
[14:35]	psydroid2	arch is the embodiment of brokenness
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[14:46]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22040451
[14:46]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/urpggdk02br81.jpg created on 2022-04-04 19:16:56.815926
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[15:22]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22041641
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[16:39]	TR News	"I agree that most of the technical content hosted on Gemini is about Gemini itself, and usually repeating the same points, because I guess there are bits from Gemini that are not ideal and there is a lot of conversation around them." gemini://capsule.usebox.net/gemlog/20220417-re-stepping-away-from-gemini.gmi
[16:40]	TR News	"Here's are just a whole bunch of RSS feeds, loosly grouped, that I think are worth subscribing to over on the Web." gemini://gemini.rlamacraft.uk/misc/rssFeeds.gmi
[16:41]	TR News	Pine Phone Pro gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202204170145.gmi "it fits in your pocket and has touchscreen input. It also just so happens to do phone calls, SMS, and connect to mobile data."
[16:42]	TR News	"Of course, that's why I left... everything just stays the same, and there is more to life than staying in one place." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202204170026.gmi
[16:51]		*psydruid is in regular contact with kwiecien
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[17:09]	TR News	[Meme] Godly Oversight at the EPO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-godly-oversight-at-the-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-godly-oversight-at-the-epo/
[17:09]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Godly Oversight at the EPO | Techrights
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[17:41]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22041565
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[19:04]	DaemonFC	So my chargeback against Batteries Plus went through and they credited my account and it's in the investigation phase.
[19:04]	DaemonFC	MinceR, He threatened me, you know? Threatened me with the police over my negative reviews and chargeback.
[19:05]	DaemonFC	Figures that my only chargeback ever was against a battery store.
[19:05]	DaemonFC	If they ever did show up I'll have to contain myself. "Hey officer, you know what you call a bad review about a car battery? An assault on battery. Thanks, I'll be here all night! badumtish!".
[19:06]	TR News	LXQt 1.1 Desktop Environment Is Here Based on the Qt 5.15 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163822
[19:06]	TR Bot	 LXQt 1.1 Desktop Environment Is Here Based on the Qt 5.15 | Tux Machines
[19:07]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163823
[19:07]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[19:08]	MinceR	"Are you threatening me, master Jedi?"
[19:09]	DaemonFC	Then they'll say, "That's not funny!" and I'll say, "No, but I know what is funny.". They'll say "What's that?" and I'll say "Mitch McConnell in a dress! BAZINGA!".
[19:10]	MinceR	lol
[19:14]	TR News	How We Cover Patents and How Techrights Reduces Technical Debt (Gemini and Single-File Web Pages) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/covering-patents-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/covering-patents-2022/
[19:14]	TR Bot	 How We Cover Patents and How Techrights Reduces Technical Debt (Gemini and Single-File Web Pages) | Techrights
[19:15]	DaemonFC	Anyway, most people who make me angry get sorry they did because I have a habit of putting them in situations where they can either accept a loss or try to fight me and lose more.
[19:15]	DaemonFC	The guy screwed me on a Buick key and remote that didn't work right, and so I went to the dealer, got it worked on, had them document that the stuff the guy at Batteries Plus sold me was no good, and then filed a dispute that I shouldn't have to pay for shoddy merchandise that didn't start my car and there's no way to go back and work with the merchant because he's a nut that called me at my home and threatened trespassing charges when I said 
[19:15]	DaemonFC	"Do you want to make this work or give me a refund?".
[19:15]	DaemonFC	LOWER COMMUNICATIONS BARRIER!!!!! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINAAAAATE!
[19:15]	MinceR	:)
[19:18]	DaemonFC	Cyberman: "Your technology is inelegant!" Dalek: "Daaaaaleks have no concept of elegaaance!" Cyberman: "How many Daleks are you?" Dalek: "Four!" Cyberman: "You would destroy 6 billion Cybermen with only four Daleks" Dalek: "We would destroy 6 billion Cybermen with only one Daleeeek! You are superiooor in only one regard!" Cyberman: "What is that?" Dalek: "You....are....better...at...dyiiiiiing!"
[19:19]	DaemonFC	I don't know why I like Doctor Who. It's so bad it's good, I guess.
[19:20]	DaemonFC	Instead of bullshitting thousands of pages of nonsensical explanations for why things in Star Trek work, Doctor Who doesn't even bother explaining it, or if he does, he dumbs it down to "a big ball of timey wimey stuff".
[19:21]	MinceR	:)
[19:21]	DaemonFC	It makes it really easy to do anything you want to in any episode. That and the Sonic Screwdriver that seems to always be an appropriate way to get things to work.
[19:21]	DaemonFC	John had a toy Sonic Screwdriver somewhere. I hate to think of what he was using that for.
[19:22]	DaemonFC	MinceR, If I had that I make a video pointing it at my engine and having it light up and make noise while I went "I know what's wrong with it. Ain't got no gas in it!".
[19:22]	DaemonFC	I think it would be quite funny, me out there in my bathrobe and stuff.
[19:23]	DaemonFC	Humor can be anything you want to throw together that's absurd, and then becomes funny.
[19:24]	DaemonFC	It's like pornography or the perfect turd. I can't tell you what it is, but I'll know it when I see it.
[19:25]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I get a lot of my comedy for the day from the news.
[19:25]	DaemonFC	People who think Florida Man is funny should watch out for the Waukegan Man stories.
[19:25]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2019/05/14/man-set-his-car-on-fire-in-beach-park-because-he-was-upset-it-ran-out-of-gas-police-say/
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[19:25]	TR Bot	 Man set his car on fire in Beach Park because he was upset it ran out of gas, police say
[19:26]	DaemonFC	"A Waukegan man has been charged after police say he set his car on fire in Beach Park on Saturday because he was upset that it had just ran out of gas and that it would frequently broke down.
[19:26]	DaemonFC	Leonard H. Peters, Jr., 21, of the 2100 block of Williamsburg Drive in Waukegan, was charged with one count of arson, a Class 2 felony."
[19:26]	DaemonFC	MinceR, It would frequently broke down.
[19:26]	DaemonFC	Well I'd get mad at it and set it on fire if it used the English language like that.
[19:26]	DaemonFC	NOT GUILTY!
[19:27]	DaemonFC	The upside is one less alleged car on the road.
[19:27]	MinceR	"You stand before this church accused of heresy and witchcraft. How do you plead?"
[19:27]	DaemonFC	This used car mess is so bad that even KIAs are selling for a fortune.
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[19:28]	MinceR	they could sell them for more if they made them even worse
[19:29]	DaemonFC	A 2015 Kia Soul+, three years older than the 2018 I bought new, is now $17,590, which was the MSRP of the 2018.
[19:29]	MinceR	just look at the german car industry
[19:29]	DaemonFC	And this one has 75,140 miles on it, so it's shot.
[19:29]	DaemonFC	Because it's a Kia.
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[19:30]	DaemonFC	MinceR, It looks like this car lot got more crooked since I bought a new KIA there.
[19:30]	DaemonFC	That's amazing. "Not only that it can happen, but that you don't know how it's possible. (Carter to Thor, SG-1)
[19:31]	DaemonFC	They won't just give you the actual price, MinceR There's $2,500 extra on top of the price because of "dealer installed equipment".
[19:31]	DaemonFC	What is the dealer installing in a 7 year old KIA Soul that's $2,500?
[19:31]	DaemonFC	And didn't the original owner already pay for that?
[19:31]	MinceR	a new engine
[19:32]	MinceR	because the one that exploded isn't working so well anymore
[19:33]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Well, KIA *tried* the software update on the fragments of exploded car.
[19:33]	DaemonFC	For some reason, it just didn't take.
[19:33]	MinceR	:>
[19:33]	MinceR	maybe it's because the shrapnels of the ECU could no longer communicate with each other
[19:34]	DaemonFC	MinceR, They reprogrammed my Powertrain Control Module on the Buick yesterday.
[19:34]	DaemonFC	It actually did do SOMETHING.
[19:34]	DaemonFC	It's getting a reading from the TPMS sensors that it understands again.
[19:34]	MinceR	:>
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[19:34]	DaemonFC	I think I'm going to hold off fixing this with new sensors for a while and see if the old sensors keep working.
[19:34]	MinceR	strange, my car managed to communicate with the TPMS sensors without needing to do that
[19:35]	DaemonFC	The fucking things use Bluetooth, MinceR 
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[19:35]	MinceR	:)
[19:35]	DaemonFC	Which for some reason the computer, but not the radio, understand.
[19:35]	MinceR	presumably it's simpler than trying to connect a cable to something that rotates while driving
[19:35]	MinceR	once for each wheel
[19:36]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9rUREflwDI
[19:36]	TR Bot	https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=C9rUREflwDI
[19:36]	TR Bot	invidious.osi.kr | Terminator Genisys (2015) - T-800 is Back Scene (3/10) | Movieclips - Invidious
[19:36]	DaemonFC	MinceR, The 2003 has TPMS, but it's a different kind of TPMS that just works, you know.
[19:36]	DaemonFC	The Buick has sensors that run on a watch battery that is sealed.
[19:36]	DaemonFC	They are superior in one way.
[19:36]	DaemonFC	I know I know.
[19:36]	MinceR	they are better at dying?
[19:36]	DaemonFC	THEY ARE BETTER AT DYING!
[19:37]	DaemonFC	No, actually.
[19:37]	DaemonFC	They can monitor individual tire pressure precisely.
[19:37]	DaemonFC	TPMS in the older cars can only tell using the wheel speed sensor that they aren't all at the same pressure.
[19:40]	DaemonFC	So whenever it goes off it means one or more tires is lower than the rest, not that they're at any given pressure level or 20% low from that correct level.
[19:40]	DaemonFC	The Buick goes "ding ding this exact tire is at that precise pressure right now.
[19:40]	DaemonFC	bbiab
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[19:46]	MinceR	https://files.catbox.moe/9g7udn.png
[19:46]	TR Bot	connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/9g7udn.png )
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[20:25]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/trippy
[20:25]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Trippy
[20:33]	TR News	Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Pony - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-pony/ Source: LinuxLinks | GNU | Linux | FreeSW
[20:33]	TR Bot	Free Tutorials to Learn Pony - LinuxLinks
[20:38]	TR News	Solaris Might Be Free If You Want It | Hackaday http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163642#comment-33373
[20:38]	TR Bot	 Announcing the First Oracle Solaris 11.4 CBE | Tux Machines
[20:41]	TR News	With unconditional help from coup-installed EPO presidents Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos Team UPC is pushing to replace legitimate, common courts with a bunch of kangaroo courts like the EPO's internal tribunals; due to the demise if not death of journalism theres nobody left to challenge them http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/upc-vacuum/
[20:41]	TR Bot	 The Collapse of the Media Has Left a Vacuum for Fake News From Team UPC (Scheming to Bury Laws and Constitutions) | Techrights
[20:42]	TR News	Bristows over the years (the above people have since then stepped down) http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/bristows-cried-wolf/
[20:42]	TR Bot	 [Meme] The Boy (or Bristows) Who Cried Wolf | Techrights
[20:42]	TR News	The EPO and the EU can become casualties of the cross-Atlantic patent litigation cartel, fronted by Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/upc-npc/
[20:42]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Nobody Hates the EPOs Patent Examination More Than Team UPC (Shoehorning Fake Patents, Then Fake Courts) | Techrights
[20:42]	TR News	European software patents? Or proper patents one can successfully enforce in a court? (A real court, not UPC unicorns and kangaroos) http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/crisis-of-legitimacy-eu-upc-epo/
[20:42]	TR Bot	 Team UPC and Corrupt EPO Management Have Fast Become a Severe Crisis of Legitimacy for the European Union | Techrights
[20:43]	TR News	This talk was uploaded a long time ago. FSF staff welcomed the talented illustrator and artist David Revoy, who created the beautiful designs commemorating our coral anniversary..." http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/david-revoy-freesw/
[20:43]	TR Bot	 How and Why David Revoy Moved to Free Software | Techrights
[20:44]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163824
[20:44]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
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[20:46]	DaemonFC	My check gas cap light came on.
[20:47]	DaemonFC	I got out and checked and it was still there, so I tightened it and it went back off.
[20:47]	DaemonFC	But I got on Amazon and ordered a new gas cap for $8 out of "Warehouse Deals". You save $3 because the top of the cap has a small scratch on it. Like, who cares?
[20:47]	DaemonFC	AutoZone wanted over $20 for the same gas cap.
[20:50]	DaemonFC	Sometimes the seals go bad on the gas cap. If your gas cap light is on, you'll fail emissions and it's a really dumb reason to fail.
[20:50]	DaemonFC	Like, the seals are bad or it's not tightened correctly and they'll fail your emissions and say "bad gas cap".
[20:50]	DaemonFC	This car isn't due for emissions for another two years though.
[20:51]	DaemonFC	Still, the gas cap is such a cheap part that why would you want fuel vapors escaping the system and lowering your gas mileage?
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[21:58]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/limitless
[21:58]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Limitless
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[22:12]	TR News	Seems like a security bug rather than feature https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/ubuntu-22-04-remote-desktop-control/
[22:12]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntuhandbook.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/ubuntu-22-04-remote-desktop-control/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/ubuntu-22-04-remote-desktop-control/
[22:12]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu 22.04 Finally Supports Remote Desktop Control via MS RDP Protocol | UbuntuHandbook
[22:17]	TR News	Windows killer https://www.androidpolice.com/install-chrome-os-flex-chromebook-explainer/
[22:17]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: androidpolice.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.androidpolice.com/install-chrome-os-flex-chromebook-explainer/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.androidpolice.com/install-chrome-os-flex-chromebook-explainer/
[22:17]	TR Bot	 Chrome OS Flex installation and hands-on: Not for the faint of heart
[22:18]	AltLink_c52c	 New Issue | Re: Re: Due invoice | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/30
[22:18]	TR Bot	 Re: Re: Due invoice (#30) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
[22:19]	TR News	This Week in Linux 194: LXQt, SUSEs Next-Gen OS, MX Linux, OpenSSH, OpenRazer, Bitwig, StarLabs and more Linux news! - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-194/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux
[22:19]	TR Bot	LXQt, SUSE's Next-Gen OS, MX Linux, OpenSSH, OpenRazer, Bitwig, StarLabs and more Linux news! - TuxDigital
[22:22]	TR News	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163670#comment-33376
[22:22]	TR Bot	 Razer and Lambda Team Up to Unveil a Linux Laptop for Deep Learning | Tux Machines
[22:22]	TR News	A headline at Hot Hardware calls it a sexy Linux laptop with deep learning chops being pitched as the worlds most powerful laptop for machine learning workloads.
[22:22]	TR News	A headline at Hot Hardware calls it a sexy Linux laptop with deep learning chops being pitched as the worlds most powerful laptop for machine learning workloads. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163670#comment-33376
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[22:23]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[22:24]	TR News	Caoln McNamara: "I thought I'd try some of the built-in GTK CSS support. So here we animate the widget to reduce its left and right margins inwards a little and its opacity to 50% before returning to its original properties." http://caolanm.blogspot.com/
[22:24]	TR Bot	 Caoln McNamara
[22:24]	matey	hi
[22:24]	SomeH4x0r	I think another person might come here soon, they are interested in free software it seems
[22:24]	matey	schestowitz-TR   there, in his own words, today (I know you are offline) <- i dont know what youre referring to specifically
[22:25]	matey	 they are interested in free software it seems <- that could be useful in the long run, since free software is nearly dead right now
[22:25]	matey	"no! its only MOSTLY dead!"-- miracle max
[22:25]	SomeH4x0r	you can come to UplinkIRC (irc.uplinkcorp.net/+6000 #uplink) temporarily, they are barto there
[22:25]	matey	ok i blame uplinkirc
[22:25]	TR News	MUTTER_DEBUG_USE_KMS_MODIFIERS=0 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/2359
[22:25]	TR Bot	 kms/device: Disable modifiers when !DRM_CAP_ADDFB2_MODIFIERS (!2359) Merge requests GNOME / mutter GitLab
[22:26]	SomeH4x0r	Uplink is not free software. It is a videogame which has a built-in IRC client though, and people appear there using it.
[22:26]	matey	good to know
[22:26]	SomeH4x0r	I talk to them and share my opinions too
[22:27]	TR News	A few words of relevance to Techrights and its strategy, future direction, and technical work http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/covering-patents-2022/
[22:27]	TR Bot	 How We Cover Patents and How Techrights Reduces Technical Debt (Gemini and Single-File Web Pages) | Techrights
[22:27]	TR News	The EPO will never be the same; for 12 years it has been governed by gangsters, mobsters or banksters from France http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-godly-oversight-at-the-epo/
[22:27]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Godly Oversight at the EPO | Techrights
[22:28]	SomeH4x0r	I told them about this network as well as XMPP, they said they will read the website
[22:28]	SomeH4x0r	I'm about to gtg, lmk if you will be connecting there
[22:29]	SomeH4x0r	oh, it is available on port 6667 with no TLS
[22:29]	matey	im not much of an irc user really
[22:30]	matey	its not something i normally do
[22:31]	matey	/topic but there's a nuance
[22:32]	TR News	"But what is the main thing in the Geminispace? Im always repeating that the answer is people. Gemini protocol gathered people who were attracted by its idea." gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-04-17-Re-stepping-away-from-gemini.gmi
[22:33]	SomeH4x0r	oh, they said they are going to go soon as well, maybe no need to then
[22:33]	matey	bnchs   like emacs psychotherapist <- emacs psychotherapist doesnt work on people who develop emacs on github
[22:34]	matey	/me wouldnt be surprised if emacs psychotherapist (which was called "eliza" when it was at mit decades ago) was on github now
[22:34]	matey	if you coded in basic for long enough you had a copy of eliza
[22:35]	TR News	"Unifont 14.0.03 is now available." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10161
[22:35]	TR Bot	 Unifont - News: Unifont 14.0.03 Released [Savannah]
[22:35]	matey	the sound blaster pro included an eliza-like program called dr. sbaitso
[22:35]	TR News	GNU Mailutils - News: Version 3.15 http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10160
[22:35]	TR Bot	 GNU Mailutils - News: Version 3.15 [Savannah]
[22:35]	matey	sb for sound blaster, maybe ai for ai, ts for maybe text to speech (dr spaitso included speech audio output) and o? who knows
[22:36]	matey	presumably the emacs version is free software at least
[22:37]	matey	i could make my text editor chat to me like that, but id have to do it like this:
[22:37]	matey	chatprogram hi, chat program CTRL-T
[22:37]	TR News	"We had a wonderful week in the world of Linux Releases with the releases of EndeavourOS 22.1, SparkyLinux 2022.04, Bluestar Linux 5.17.2, and Manjaro 21.2.6." https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/04/linux-weekly-roundup-178.html
[22:37]	TR Bot	 Linux Weekly Roundup #178
[22:37]	matey	unless you know i wanted to change the code of my text editor which of course is also an option
[22:38]	TR News	"In this video, I discuss five incredibly useful command line utilities: uname, hostname, basename, dirname and logname. All of these programs are part of the GNU core utilities that are installed on every GNU/Linux distribution." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zT37cVNR1w
[22:38]	TR Bot	https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=2zT37cVNR1w
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[22:41]	matey	so this is the day when a giant bunny flew to heaven and chocolate eggs rained down, as told by the prophet tay zonday
[22:42]	matey	and this is celebrated with chocolate and extra church, unless youre protestant
[22:42]	matey	or (gasp) not a bunny worshiper
[22:44]	matey	"but the parents were wicked, and stole all the eggs and hid them away from the children, who delighted in finding them and thwarting the parents evil plans"
[22:45]	matey	and this of course celebrates the destruction of the temple, when god hid most of it from the jewish people, but only mel gibson is brave enough to talk about it
[22:45]	matey	mel gibson: "dont look at me!"
[22:45]	matey	dont be so modest, mel-- without you, how would anyone know the truth
[22:47]	matey	mel gibson: "it was aliens!"
[22:48]	MinceR	is mel gibson playing giorgio tsoukalos now?
[22:48]	matey	i assume thats a joke but since this is mel gibson we are talking about, it could also be a real question and it wouldnt be your fault
[22:49]	MinceR	https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/i-m-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens.jpg
[22:49]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: keepcalms.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/i-m-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/i-m-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens.jpg
[22:49]	matey	/me gets "theres a nuance" tattooed on his upper arm
[22:49]	MinceR	:>
[22:49]	matey	"what it mean?"
[22:49]	matey	"well theres this old russian joke..."
[22:50]	MinceR	does it come with a picture of Petka and Basilivanych?
[22:50]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163825
[22:50]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[22:50]	matey	thats on the other arm :)
[22:50]	MinceR	:)
[22:50]	matey	though i suppose o could get that on my butt
[22:51]	matey	just get a tattoo of Basilivanych with his dick out and a speech bubble that says "theres a nuance"
[22:51]	matey	aimed at the general...
[22:51]	matey	um
[22:52]	matey	/me chuckles
[22:52]		*XRevan86 learnt something as well
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[22:52]	XRevan86	Petka is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Isaev
[22:52]	TR Bot	 Pyotr Isaev - Wikipedia
[22:53]	XRevan86	Basilivanych is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Chapayev
[22:53]	TR Bot	 Vasily Chapayev - Wikipedia
[22:53]	MinceR	oh, i vaguely remember hearing jokes with Chapayev in them
[22:53]	XRevan86	It's one of those.
[22:54]	XRevan86	I didn't connect the dots.
[22:55]	XRevan86	I guess a better adaptation would have "comrade Chapaev" or something.
[22:57]	matey	tor browser is a great way to wean yourself off the web, ESPECIALLY if youre using ff anyway (as it has most of the same bullshit as ff, minus a bit)
[22:58]	matey	because suddenly a lot of websites are like "fuck you, lift your skirt and show me your ip"
[22:58]	matey	and im like "no, youre not a real website"
[22:58]	matey	so already im using the web less.
[22:58]	MinceR	"also, let us mine ethereum on your computer"
[22:59]	matey	i have ethereum mine, and you have ethereum mine...
[22:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 56.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 249.58
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[23:00]	XRevan86	I also don't like "dick" as a word, but spent 0 time looking for a good synonym.
[23:00]	matey	there was an episode of dudley do-right where snidely asked dudley "have you ever thought about what would happen to me, if anything should happen to you?"
[23:00]	matey	"well, no..."
[23:00]	matey	"i thought not, sign here"
[23:01]	SomeH4x0r	they left by now btw
[23:01]	SomeH4x0r	the person on UplinkIRC
[23:01]	matey	and snidely gets dudley to sign over the rights to his newly found "mine" in the event of an untimely accident "which is exactly what snidely had in mind"
[23:01]	matey	theyll come here if they want to
[23:02]	matey	the mine of course, was actually just a tunnel to the chief inspectors office where the payroll was kept in sacks
[23:02]	matey	but dudley didnt realise that
[23:03]	matey	so the chief inspector orders do-right to find out who is stealing the payroll, snidely thinks hes killed do-right and goes to collect the bags
[23:03]	matey	dudley shows up and nabs him and says "SO *YOU* are the payroll thief!"
[23:03]	matey	he gets vacation time for catching snidely and decides to go dig for more gold... several yards away from some giant bank
[23:06]	matey	"then ill push you into this river" "but i can swim!" "with a stick of dynamite in your mouth?"
[23:06]	matey	"it was true, dudley COULDNT swim with a stick of dynamite in his mouth!"
[23:06]	matey	"but his HORSE COULD!"
[23:08]	matey	the best part was when he swam to shore and doused the dynamite in a bucket of water
[23:09]	matey	because there obviously wasnt enough of that in the river
[23:09]	matey	this may have inspired d-bus somehow
[23:15]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/19011832
[23:15]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/sqpo2fyvusa21.jpg created on 2019-01-18 10:58:46.811451
[23:16]	matey	bnchs   wtf is this bot acting on itself <- https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=dIpsvF50yps
[23:16]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=dIpsvF50yps )
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[23:46]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/cog
[23:46]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Cog