●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 17, 2022 ●● ● Jul 17 [00:08] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:11] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [00:15] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:17] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [00:18] DaemonFC DaemonFC, do you think you can link the lawyer video on your blog? [00:18] DaemonFC Maybe. I don't like TikTok. [00:18] DaemonFC Let's see if I can find it literally anywhere else first. [00:18] britney ok cool [00:20] *jkl has quit (Quit: Gone.) [00:22] *jkl (~jkl@freenode/user/jkl) has joined #techrights [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 17 [01:01] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/16/today-walmart-grocery-pickup-gave-my-order-to-someone-else-billed-me-and-then-had-to-go-pick-it-again-while-i-waited-in-my-car-bonus-lawyer-says-away-from-self-checkouts-or-you-risk-jail/ [01:01] TR Bot Today, Walmart Grocery Pickup gave my order to someone else, billed me, and then had to go pick it again while I waited in my car. Bonus: Lawyer says away from self-checkouts or you risk jail. BaronHK's Rants [01:01] DaemonFC I linked to a Yahoo News recap of it and some more thoughts. [01:04] DaemonFC Added: "Like I said before, I think going back to the 19th century approach of telling a store clerk what you want and having them go get it is probably the best. [01:04] DaemonFC (More jobs. Safer. no legal liability because you were never in the store doing anything.so where would their case come from?) [01:04] DaemonFC When that system changed, people had complaints much like they did about self-checkout today. [01:04] DaemonFC What Im supposed to walk through here, find everything I need, and do unpaid work for the store? [01:04] DaemonFC Everything old is new again." [01:05] MinceR "Lawyer says away from" seems wrong [01:05] DaemonFC Oh shit. [01:05] DaemonFC Let's see if this works. [01:05] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/16/today-walmart-grocery-pickup-gave-my-order-to-someone-else-billed-me-and-then-had-to-go-pick-it-again-while-i-waited-in-my-car-bonus-lawyer-says-stay-away-from-self-checkouts-or-you-risk-jail/ [01:05] TR Bot Today, Walmart Grocery Pickup gave my order to someone else, billed me, and then had to go pick it again while I waited in my car. Bonus: Lawyer says stay away from self-checkouts or you risk jail. BaronHK's Rants [01:06] DaemonFC BLM figured out how to make everyone lose sympathy for them. [01:06] MinceR it does indeed [01:07] MinceR i avoid self-checkouts because this industry can't even make vending machines work reliably [01:07] MinceR and those are comparatively easy [01:07] DaemonFC Come into my neighborhood. Threaten to burn my car. Vandalize and loot the store my spouse earns his paychecks at. [01:07] DaemonFC It's like, fuck off. [01:07] DaemonFC You know? [01:08] DaemonFC The riots managed to distract everyone away from police misconduct and put their focus on what might happen to them if the riots keep breaking out. [01:09] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:09] britney DaemonFC, good job :) [01:10] DaemonFC Still tweaking it a bit. [01:10] DaemonFC Added why I really dislike BLM. [01:10] DaemonFC You still see BLM signs around here sometimes. [01:11] DaemonFC I thought about getting a T-Shirt that says "BURN LOOT MURDER" on it except I'd probably run into someone who attacked me for wearing it. [01:11] DaemonFC Which is not how I want to prove my point. [01:11] britney lol [01:11] DaemonFC Not just some faux-liberal wuss namby pamby like mjg59_ who would fart in my general direction. [01:12] DaemonFC I'm talking violent crime, obviously. [01:14] britney why u always picking on mjg59_ [01:14] britney theres probably a reason he says you spew nonsense, you're always saying stuff about him [01:15] DaemonFC i don't know. He seems to have actually gotten a few people to listen to him this past week. [01:15] DaemonFC By complaining about something less bad than what Lenovo did in 2016, when he took their side. [01:16] britney i started following him on twitter [01:17] DaemonFC Keeping an eye on an obvious lizard person? [01:17] DaemonFC I like the enthusiasm. [01:17] britney he could be a reptilian, who knows [01:17] britney i dont know what he looks like [01:17] DaemonFC I mean, he's obviously one of their lower ranking ones. [01:17] britney is there a picture of him online? [01:17] britney im good at spotting reptilians [01:18] DaemonFC Yeah, on the Wikipedia page. Also, a reflection from some shitty Android tablet built into the wall of a hotel he was staying in. [01:18] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:19] DaemonFC The article was about the shitty Android tablet though. [01:19] DaemonFC Not like there's any shortage of them. "Commercial Open Source" [01:20] britney its not a very good photo, i can't tell [01:20] MinceR "yer a lizard, harry!" [01:20] britney from his wikipedia picture, i'd have to say no [01:21] britney i would need to see a close up of his face to know 100% [01:23] DaemonFC 2017 Free Software Award went to Karen Sandler. Blecth. [01:23] DaemonFC For what? Nearly causing GNOME to file bankruptcy and make KDE the winner by default? [01:24] DaemonFC Someone should really patch out GNOME Online Accounts. [01:24] DaemonFC "Encourages the use of Non-Free Network Services" [01:25] DaemonFC "yer a lizard, harry!" [01:26] DaemonFC Lizard People got a vote for US Senate in Minnesota in 2008. [01:26] DaemonFC After going to a judge, it was determined that the vote would be given to Al Franken. [01:26] MinceR :) [01:27] DaemonFC The voter wrote in "Lizard People" as the Write-In box, then filled in the oval. [01:27] DaemonFC Then they put an X through the oval, and also filled in the oval for Al Franken. [01:28] MinceR lol [01:28] britney https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Franken#/media/File:Al_Franken,_official_portrait,_114th_Congress.jpg [01:28] TR Bot Al Franken - Wikipedia [01:28] britney i can see it in his jawline, hes a reptile [01:29] DaemonFC "I'm good enough, I'm sssssssssssssmart enough, and Gossssssh Darn it....People like me!" [01:29] MinceR at least he isn't a snake person [01:29] britney the problem with his jawline tho is that it could also be neanderthaller [01:29] psydroid2 what exactly is a reptile? what makes someone a reptile? [01:30] britney pretty sure i'd say reptile [01:30] MinceR https://www.patrickstomlinson.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/why_wont_rick_scott_disclose_his_companys_secret_legal_settlements.jpg [01:30] britney psydroid2, interdimensional shapeshifting reptilians, they're from a parallel dimension where dinosaurs didn't get wiped out [01:30] XRevan86 Is britney the lizard people fan? [01:30] MinceR dinosaurs didn't get wiped out in this dimension either [01:30] MinceR you just call them "birds" [01:31] XRevan86 I am losing track of nicknames. [01:31] britney some of them are birds [01:31] DaemonFC Others are Al Franken. [01:31] britney they're dinosaurs that evolved into humanoids [01:31] DaemonFC I loved that show! [01:31] XRevan86 Why would they evolve into humanoids? That's a very ape-like thing to do. [01:32] psydroid2 britney, sometimes I wonder if we aren't reptilians too [01:32] britney XRevan86, https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/whorunstheworld.html [01:32] TR Bot Cerberus Investigations - Who really runs the world? [01:32] XRevan86 britney: Is that going to explain the biology of that claim? [01:33] britney no, im working on an article specifically on reptilians. ill let you know when its done [01:33] britney they have a base on the hollow moon too [01:33] britney either they are evolved dinosaurs, or they're from another planet [01:34] XRevan86 I'm so tired of anthropocentric thinking. Non-humans are not humans. [01:34] britney pretty sure John Dee first summoned them via a magick portal back in the 1500s tho [01:34] XRevan86 And just by that it's not plausible for non-humans to be humans. [01:35] XRevan86 Unless the person has that special religious belief that the human form is a perfect form, so everything naturally evolves that way. [01:35] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@kpdwurn3ajvak.irc) has joined #techrights [01:35] XRevan86 But that only works when one tries to justify the cheapness of Star Trek's costumes. [01:36] britney i just finished watching a really good show, "Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura". I'd highly recommend episode 1 on HAARP [01:36] britney its a weather control thing [01:36] XRevan86 britney: "pretty sure John Dee first summoned them via a magick portal back in the 1500s tho" <- This seriously sounds like a joke. [01:37] XRevan86 The Poe's Law is strong with you, britney. [01:37] britney XRevan86, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian_magic [01:37] TR Bot Enochian magic - Wikipedia [01:37] britney "Enochian magic is a system of ceremonial magic based on the 16th-century writings of John Dee and Edward Kelley, who wrote that their information, including the revealed Enochian language, was delivered to them directly by various angels." [01:38] MinceR could be like carcinization [01:38] XRevan86 britney: I'll tell you a secret: schizophrenia existed in the XVI century as well. [01:38] MinceR also, the bishounen line :> [01:39] britney I was pretty close to schitzophrenia - I suffered from psychosis a few years back. [01:39] XRevan86 This is the XVI century's TempleOS. [01:39] MinceR https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Bishounen_Line [01:39] TR Bot Bishonen Line - All The Tropes [01:42] XRevan86 MinceR: "could be like carcinization" <- Right, but the level of complexity is significantly different, and we don't see any evidence that the human form is actually optimal. [01:43] MinceR \ [01:43] MinceR :> [01:44] britney carcinization is spot on [01:45] XRevan86 After all, the only species that are humanoid beside us are all our relatives, they're all primates. [01:45] britney XRevan86, what about the samsquanch [01:46] XRevan86 britney: And of course samsquanch, orcs, elfs, hobbits [01:46] XRevan86 * elves [01:46] britney dwarfs are real [01:46] XRevan86 Centauri from Babylon 5, Klingons too. [01:47] XRevan86 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Christopher_icon.jpg this guy too [01:47] britney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJphX1WtVSY [01:47] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=aJphX1WtVSY [01:47] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | Trailer Park Boys - The Samsquanch - Invidious [01:49] XRevan86 britney: Not to mention that the sasquatch is supposed to be a primate as well. [01:51] britney I was gonna say neanderthal and Denisovans are examples of carcinization but they're related to us too [01:51] britney hmmm [01:51] XRevan86 That would be more like carcinisation of a literal crab, yes. [01:54] britney https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reptilian_humanoids [01:54] TR Bot List of reptilian humanoids - Wikipedia [01:55] XRevan86 Straight from the fantasy realm. [01:55] XRevan86 Doctor Who is a good argument though. [01:55] XRevan86 Allons-y, have a jelly baby. [01:55] britney Allons-y :D [01:56] britney the freemasons put these things into tv shows as an allegory though [01:57] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towelie this explains everything [01:57] TR Bot Towelie - Wikipedia [01:57] britney Never forget to bring a towel! Wanna get high? [01:58] *immibis_ (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [01:58] *immibis_ (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [01:58] XRevan86 It was an implanted Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy line all along. [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [01:59] britney i love the tv series [01:59] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:59] britney i think the BBC radio program is better [01:59] XRevan86 I wish it were available in better quality. ● Jul 17 [02:00] britney you should check out the radio program, it keeps going forward after the tv series finale [02:01] XRevan86 I did. 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And to get a warrant you must have reasonable suspicion of illegal activity. Additionally, banks use higher encryption standards than the rest of the internet because... they are banks" gemini://station.martinrue.com/krixano/7d35fd515ad54b18b5aa10026141bbc9 [05:13] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@ye68sz7bujpma.irc) has joined #techrights [05:13] TR News "Nano has 87 shortcuts and we have listed all of them below." gemini://caoom.smol.pub/1658000012 [05:17] TR News GParted 1.4.0-5 is out https://gparted.org/download.php [05:17] TR Bot GParted -- Download [05:22] TR News But porting it to something that's not proprietary Apple would be needed; what kind of "FOSS" is it when it's hosted by proprietary GitHub and needs proprietary MacOS? https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2022/07/16/another-helper-app-browserbot/ [05:22] TR Bot Another Helper App BrowserBot Jon's FOSS Blog [05:23] TR News EPO management is trying to grant a lot of software patents to make up for the collapse in patent grants overall; this necessarily means a profound decline in compliance with the European Patent Convention, or EPC http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/propping-up-epo-bubble/ [05:23] TR News European software patents are increasingly being granted by the EPO; grant rate grew five-fold under Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos wants to take this much further, in effect inviting far worse applications and granting monopolies regardless http://techrights.org/2022/07/16/swpats-buzzwords-2022/ [05:31] TR News Software:LinuxCNC, Universal USB Installer, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167330 [05:31] TR Bot Software:LinuxCNC, Universal USB Installer, and More | Tux Machines [05:32] *alextee (~alextee@fme9g3jbi568k.irc) has joined #techrights [05:55] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:58] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 17 [06:12] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [06:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:58] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 17 [07:05] TR News Seems quite common to have bad dreams about sitting exams without preparing for them. gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1079 [07:07] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [07:33] *matey (~matey@ib2k7hffs2gws.irc) has joined #techrights [07:34] *matey has quit (connection closed) [07:34] *matey (~matey@ib2k7hffs2gws.irc) has joined #techrights [07:38] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@sctsjmg96zkru.irc) has joined #techrights [07:38] matey techrights people [07:38] matey livin just to find emotion [07:38] matey hidin somewhere in the night! [07:38] schestowitz[TR] heh [07:39] schestowitz[TR] I'm writing about copilot atm [07:39] *KiKi_ is now known as KiKi [07:40] matey /me wonders if it was a copilot that flew into the twin towers [07:40] matey we already had free software 9/11 [07:40] schestowitz[TR] coallah [07:40] matey doesnt work for me, i dont think most muslims are extremists (obviously i could be wrong) [07:41] matey also arabic speaking christians [07:41] schestowitz[TR] that's now what I was implying [07:41] matey i dont think anyone will be offended [07:41] schestowitz[TR] anyway, that was radicals [07:41] schestowitz[TR] saudis mostl [07:41] schestowitz[TR] the ones Donald Biden sucks up to [07:43] matey i dont even think of them as politicians anymore [07:43] matey just cast members [07:43] matey the system runs without them, they still have to make an appearance [07:44] matey im not saying its a complete work of fiction [07:44] matey more like its real life, which is BASED ON a complete work of fiction [07:44] matey sort of like when you walk down the street and see 100 kardashians [07:45] matey thats life based on fiction (based on life) [07:45] matey life imitates art [07:45] matey and bullshit is an art too [07:45] matey (then again so is fingerpainting with shit) [07:46] matey i think warhol made real art [07:46] *GNUmoon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [07:46] matey but i also think his favourite medium was bullshit [07:47] matey carlin made real comedy, but his favourite topic was bullshit (sometimes explicitly, but also in general) [07:47] schestowitz[TR] life imitates art [07:47] schestowitz[TR] odd [07:47] schestowitz[TR] I was just using that term in my draft? [07:47] schestowitz[TR] want to review the draft to suggest changes? [07:48] matey no ill just keep beaming words into your head [07:48] schestowitz[TR] mentions sfcv [07:48] schestowitz[TR] sfc [07:48] matey see, i was thinking "tosser" and you said sfc [07:48] matey thats pretty close [07:48] schestowitz[TR] ToS [07:49] matey totally over stallman? [07:49] schestowitz[TR] ToS tl;dr: don't be a tossser [07:49] schestowitz[TR] Terms of Service [07:49] matey i know [07:49] matey sfc is totally over stallman, but theyll never get over themselves [07:49] schestowitz[TR] "don't be a jerk" [07:49] schestowitz[TR] "don't be a tosser" [07:49] matey dont be a complete traitor? [07:50] matey i wonder if kuhn isnt the actual leader of the coup [07:50] matey i mean, its possible-- he was in the fsf long enough [07:50] matey had the ambition [07:51] matey he certainly has the killer instinct [07:51] matey unfortunately none of that proves a damned thing [07:51] matey we know he was involved, we have a pretty good idea why, thats it [07:55] mjg59_ Oh, no, Bradley did nothing here [07:56] TR News http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/coplagiarist-covertly-relicensing-as-proprietary/ [07:56] TR Bot Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXIII CoPlagiarist: Microsofts GPL Violations and Plagiarism Tool Created by Serial Plagiarists | Techrights [07:56] TR News Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXIII CoPlagiarist: Microsofts GPL Violations and Plagiarism Tool Created by Serial Plagiarists | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/coplagiarist-covertly-relicensing-as-proprietary/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/17/coplagiarist-covertly-relicensing-as-proprietary/ [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 17 [08:00] TR News Light PDF Editing is coming to Firefox Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167331 [08:00] TR Bot Light PDF Editing is coming to Firefox | Tux Machines [08:03] matey Oh, no, Bradley did nothing here <- humour? [08:03] schestowitz[TR] corrupted by moneyed interest [08:03] schestowitz[TR] part of a pattern [08:03] schestowitz[TR] bkuhn is not malicious, just opportunistic [08:04] matey i agree with opportunistic [08:04] schestowitz[TR] Being opportunistic is a bad trait [08:04] matey i dont think it had anything to do with greed [08:04] matey or money [08:04] matey pride and ambition. entirely. [08:05] matey a lot of people wanted to be the next stallman, funnily enough [08:05] matey i dont think anyone wanted that more than kuhn [08:05] matey i dont have any idea how many "a lot" is either [08:05] matey because it was too many, and yet not enough [08:06] matey there were more people who wanted to REPLACE him than BE him [08:06] matey and open source is all about replacing free software [08:06] schestowitz[TR] I heard years ago bkhn was presumed the successor of rms [08:06] matey by pretending to be free software [08:06] schestowitz[TR] but I forgot who said it [08:06] schestowitz[TR] maybe 4 years ago [08:07] matey I heard years ago bkhn was presumed the successor of rms <- thats true, rms is a bigger sucker than i thought [08:07] schestowitz[TR] moglen is not young enough, I guess [08:07] matey moglen is too busy [08:07] matey some people really dont have time for the job of stallman [08:07] matey for example, when two people suggested i join the board [08:07] matey i immediately found someone else who was better for that [08:08] matey i wouldnt have stayed for a week, with all the bullshit going on. it would be a race to see if they got rid of me or i left [08:08] matey with the writing on the wall, id likely have won [08:08] schestowitz[TR] last night ei explained to someone rms is a person, gnu and fsf are brands [08:08] matey signing up to a board position for a week or less is hardly better than a scam [08:09] schestowitz[TR] some people who entered gnu, fsf, or both doi not agree with rmsa [08:09] schestowitz[TR] some go as far as trying to oust him, e.g. mlee [08:09] schestowitz[TR] *mattl [08:09] matey gnu is a brand but its more than that too [08:09] matey a lot of brands stand for a fiction [08:09] matey gnu stood for a reality [08:09] matey but now it is definitely a fiction [08:09] matey one of the major things i butted heads with oliva on is the idea that gnu and the fsf are separate [08:10] matey theyre coinjoined twins [08:10] matey sometimes you can separate them without killing one [08:10] matey with gnu and fsf you cant [08:10] matey that whole theme was bs [08:10] matey maybe there was a noble reason for it, but it was still bs [08:10] matey and the fsf has leaned much too heavily on bs to justify taking donations [08:10] matey theyre a scam like osi at this point [08:11] matey a front group, with so much conviction it swears otherwise [08:11] matey being in denial about your own identity doesnt make it not denial [08:12] matey people can and do bullshit themselves into thinking theyre doing something for a noble cause [08:13] matey how else would wars get so big and so brutal? [08:13] matey even in the 1700s, wars were a product that was sold to buy something else than what it said on the tin [08:14] matey even the american revolution wasnt entirely what they said it was about [08:14] matey though in terms of results, you cant say it delivered nothing [08:15] matey i mean if youre indigenous maybe you can [08:16] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:16] matey and if youre black its fucking complicated [08:17] matey either way, a lot of the wildest contridictions between what we all thought and what we now know [08:17] matey are explained REALLY WELL by understanding that the american revolution, for example-- really wasnt entirely on the level in the first place [08:17] matey then the discrepency between "what was fought for" and what was won isnt as incredible [08:18] matey it makes a lot more sense when you realise that the revolution itself was (in part) bullshit and "go fight for rich landowners please [08:18] matey same as the wars today [08:18] matey go fight for the economy that favours the rich and fucks the poor, please [08:18] matey we will convince you its noble [08:19] matey "I'm ashamed to be surrounded by people calling themselves liberal who are, in my opinion, spitting on the graves of brave American soldiers who gave their life to fight a war that wasn't theirs... in a country they've never been to... simply to liberate the people therein"-- gene simmons [08:19] matey fucking. idiot. [08:20] matey it was more like vietnam than any sort of "liberation" [08:21] matey people like that should go fight instead of being warhawks [08:21] matey see what theyre so in favour of up close [08:21] matey so he was too old. great, makes him more expendable. [08:21] matey they can graft his tongue onto another bass player in a cheese grater costume [08:22] matey oh people arent expendable? [08:22] matey maybe thats why so many people are against illegal wars, you twat [08:22] matey but hes a pixel on a screen full of industrial bs [08:23] matey carlin was right, the #1 currency of earth is bullshit [08:23] matey its mightier than the dollar [08:23] matey more ambitious than the tiger economy [08:24] matey mincer says we will die before the bullshit economy does [08:24] matey maybe [08:24] matey i dont think its foolish to believe a little bit in the oppositiion [08:24] matey on the one hand, theyve been fighting for AGES [08:24] matey fucked that point up [08:24] matey i meant: on the one hand, theyve been losing the war for AGES [08:25] matey on the other, theyre still fighting, ages later [08:25] matey how do you call it with something like that? [08:25] matey is it a losing battle? or just a very long one [08:26] matey i would say history is on mincers side of course [08:26] matey recent history-- the past few thousand years [08:26] matey but i dont think its a fair trial [08:26] matey we killed everyone who did things differently [08:26] matey so pretending this is how everyone does things is intellectually dishonest, if not intellectually psychopathic [08:27] matey did we win? again, the other side is still fighting [08:28] matey weve never managed to stop them [08:28] matey maybe theyll win [08:29] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:33] matey In 2007, Simmons openly spoke out against music piracy, and called for file-sharers to be sued.[59] A year later, he threatened further lawsuits, and to withhold new recordings, if file-sharing continued. [08:34] matey im sure he never stole a riff [08:34] matey good musicians never do [08:34] matey In September 2014, Simmons said "The death of rock was not a natural death. Rock did not die of old age. It was murdered." Simmons blames file sharing and that no one values music "enough to pay you for it" [08:34] matey thats funny [08:35] matey i blame corporate whores like gene simmons for the death of rock [08:35] matey rock was about rebellion [08:35] matey once the only thing you stand for is the labels and money, you have no soul [08:35] matey might as well smash your guitar collection then [08:35] matey gene simmons of course, gives to charity [08:35] matey bill gates IS a fucking charity [08:35] matey it means not a damned thing [08:36] matey it doesnt change the fact that rock has nothing left to sell out to [08:36] matey so thats what killed rock [08:36] matey constantly whittling itself down from an art and a message to a commodity [08:36] matey what a stupid cunt of a person [08:36] schestowitz[TR] pervets like him killed rock [08:37] schestowitz[TR] groupies and perverts [08:37] schestowitz[TR] and bad music, too [08:37] schestowitz[TR] awful music [sic] [08:37] matey In August 2014, Simmons made comments in an interview with Songfacts.com that seemed to openly encourage people with depression to kill themselves. The comments drew criticism from Nikki Sixx of Mtley Cre who had suffered from depression in the past. [08:37] matey i would encourage him to get clinically depressed. [08:37] matey Simmons later clarified his comments and apologized for the incident. [08:38] matey bahaha On November 16, 2017, Simmons made an appearance on Fox & Friends to promote a new book, but shortly afterward, he burst into a staff meeting uninvited, unbuttoning his shirt and telling jokes. The next day, on November 17, Fox News announced that Simmons was banned for life from their program. [08:38] matey its hilarious either way, but i think fox overeacted a bit [08:39] matey if it had been his pants, i would understand [08:39] schestowitz[TR] he had competition from ballmer [08:40] schestowitz[TR] did he throw a chair tool? [08:40] schestowitz[TR] or just the tongue thing? [08:40] matey if gene simmons threw a chair, it would be on fire and it would smash into pieces on impact [08:40] matey ballmers got nothing on him. except the clippers and more money than people can really comprehend [08:40] TR News "step-by-step software installation guide, and detailed assembly instructions" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-w-lets-your-houseplant-text-you/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [08:40] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Pico W lets your houseplant text you - Raspberry Pi [08:41] matey i have no respect for him, but it doesnt mean he isnt a hell of a stage presence [08:41] matey but hes a complete douche sandwich [08:41] matey i like ace [08:41] TR News "Amazons Graviton 3 appears to have 32-byte registers" https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/14/filtering-numbers-faster-with-sve-on-amazon-graviton-3-processors/ | Source: Daniel Lemire [08:41] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/14/filtering-numbers-faster-with-sve-on-amazon-graviton-3-processors/ ) [08:41] TR News ">In the world of open source theres always this notion" https://hisham.hm/2022/07/12/finally-got-rid-of-a-and-b-in-git-diff-outputs/ | Source: Hisham [08:41] TR Bot got rid of a/ and b/ in git diff outputs! hisham.hm [08:41] matey ace called simmons an arsehole and sex addict (after simmons groped his wife) [08:42] TR News [Old] "The Fediverse is a complicated concept and, for better or worse, its structure doesn't lend itself to easily sharing content." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/06/create-a-share-to-mastodon-button-for-wordpress/ | Source: Terence Eden [08:42] TR Bot Create a Share To Mastodon Button for WordPress Terence Edens Blog [08:42] matey also ace is a hell of a guitarist [08:43] matey "Gene Simmons vs. Anonymous: Who's the bigger tool?". Ars Technica. October 18, 2010 [08:43] schestowitz[TR] slash is still kicking [08:43] schestowitz[TR] you can find medleys of his skills [08:43] matey nneither, the bigger tool is the guy from arse technica [08:44] matey O'Neal, Sean (August 15, 2014). "Gene Simmons continues asshole tour by telling depressed people to kill themselves". The AV Club. Retrieved August 15, 2014. [08:44] matey this really caps it off though: "Gene Simmons sorry for 'spur of the moment' remarks about mental illness" [08:44] matey i mean [08:44] matey his family are holocaust survivors [08:44] matey and hes basically rattling off support for the t4 programme (the d-i-y edition) [08:45] matey at least he retracted it. [08:45] matey but it shows you what a coke head (or i have no idea what drugs hes done, maybe he just ACTS like a coke head) he really is [08:46] matey has there ever been a shred of evidence of ballmer doing coke? [08:46] matey asking for a friend [08:47] matey if you put kevin and ryan from the office into the fly chamber, youd get ballmer [08:48] matey article suggests hes straight-edge (no drugs) [08:48] matey really really hard to believe [08:48] matey "Gene Simmons Doesn't Drink or Do Drugs Because of His Mother". [08:49] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [08:53] matey cory doctorow said people who say they dont download music are like people from victorian times who said they dont masturbate [08:53] matey this is another reason i really really really hate the anti-file-sharing musicians [08:53] matey theyre fucking liars [08:54] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:54] matey before it was file sharing it was tape copying [08:54] matey they came out with all the same campaigns against it [08:54] matey but tape copying is how people became famous [08:54] matey and everyone did it [08:54] matey and musicians get most of the money from the fucking concert ticket sales [08:55] matey so lets blame fans for doing what not only everyone does, but they always have done, including the hypocrites who pretend they didnt [08:55] matey there used to be a website that covered what different bands said about file sharers [08:55] matey def leppard was pretty cool [08:56] matey they said they had mixed feelings-- sure they had concerns, but on the other hand... [08:56] matey they said they saw young people at their concerts, and they know the only reason they were there is they got their music somehow, probably not at a store [08:56] matey so they were happy about that part of it at least [08:57] matey richard marx and weird al are the best of the best though [08:57] matey weird al even did a song called "dont download this song" [08:57] matey then he made it available as a free download [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [08:59] matey i still play "doctor love" sometimes, once or twice every few years [08:59] matey other than that, i simply stopped giving a shit about kiss altogether [08:59] matey "this is my attitude: love it or leave it." or leave it. or leave it. ● Jul 17 [09:00] matey musicians who hate file-sharers hate fans and dont want people to listen to them [09:00] matey okay, have it your way ms. allen [09:01] matey same for sheryl crow [09:01] matey i guess shes an auntie [09:01] matey auntie-sheyrl [09:02] matey software authors that have a beef with software freedom are no better [09:02] TR News Inside the Minds of Microsofts Media Operatives Part I Bishops in Rooks | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/microsoft-bishops/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/17/microsoft-bishops/ [09:02] TR Bot Inside the Minds of Microsofts Media Operatives Part I Bishops in Rooks | Techrights [09:03] matey gnome tries to control everything. systemd tries to control everything [09:03] matey these are anti-free-software projects [09:03] matey fight for your freedom-- then one day, give it all back to the corporations [09:03] matey just because, its better that way [09:03] matey sure, heres the source code [09:04] matey its just as useless as the binaries. weve made sure of it. [09:04] matey you dont really have the complete source code of gnome unless youve snorted coke off a pig wearing lipstick and a thong and heels. [09:05] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167332 [09:05] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:05] matey i dont know which freedom that is, but i prefer freedom 4 on that one [09:06] matey the freedom to run away from gnome, screaming [09:07] matey unless youve snorted coke off a pig wearing lipstick and a thong and heels. <- you or the pig? [09:07] matey probably another thing they want to specify if theyre going to for gpl compliance [09:07] matey maybe both [09:20] TR News "With Bungie now officially part of Sony and Take-Two completing its acquisition of Zynga" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/15/23220335/bungie-sony-acquisition-complete-official-done | Source: The Verge [09:20] TR Bot Sony officially closes $3.6 billion acquisition of Bungie - The Verge [09:21] TR News "Time crystals have no practical use, and they dont look anything like natural crystals." https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/time-crystals-rcna37654 | Source: NBC [09:21] TR Bot What are time crystals? And why are they so weird? [09:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:31] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fAClGJZb9xI [09:31] TR Bot When a Biplane Took Out 9 Jets #shorts - Invidious [09:33] mjg59_ matey: Bradley certainly has opinions about RMS, but he didn't trigger his resignation [09:35] TR News "Alfred Demirjian, founder and CEO of TechFusion, has spent the past 35 years in digital forensics" https://text.npr.org/1111778878 | Source: NPR [09:35] TR Bot When it comes to data on your phone, deleting a text isn't the end of the story [09:35] TR News "Shamir's Secret Sharing (henceforth "SSS") is clever" https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/07/how-does-shamirs-secret-sharing-deal-with-the-murder-on-the-orient-express-problem/ | Source: Terence Eden [09:35] TR Bot How does Shamirs Secret Sharing deal with the Murder on the Orient Express Problem? Terence Edens Blog [09:37] TR News "Delaware Chancery Court will determine whether Musk remains obligated to purchase Twitter" https://abcnews.go.com/Business/elon-musk-responds-twitters-44-billion-lawsuit/story?id=86911513 | Source: ABC [09:37] TR Bot Elon Musk reacts to Twitters $44 billion lawsuit - ABC News [09:39] TR News "preparation of the 2022 Rule of Law Report" https://ec.europa.eu/info/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/upholding-rule-law/rule-law/rule-law-mechanism/2022-rule-law-report_en | European Commission, stop lying and crack down on EPO CRIMES. http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/breton-lies-again/ [09:39] TR Bot 2022 Rule of law report | European Commission [09:39] TR Bot Mr. Breton and EPO Corruption (Propelling an Assault on the Rule of Law and on the Courts Themselves) Endanger the Legitimacy of the EU | Techrights [09:39] matey i could form a ridiculous inception-like theory where hes a minor player and sort of framed [09:39] TR News "privatization of broadband infrastructure" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/07/surveillance-capitalism-a-symptom-of-web-dependent-companies-not-ownership/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast [09:39] TR Bot Surveillance Capitalism a Symptom of Web-Dependent Companies, Not Ownership : Broadband Breakfast [09:39] matey but it would mean one of the most innocent figures was framing him, or being used to frame him [09:39] matey i mean the possibilities are endless [09:40] TR News "Thousands of tweets, YouTube videos, and other social media posts have been reported as Russian propaganda or anti-Ukrainian hate speech by Ukrainian officials" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/big-tech-firms-fail-to-take-down-russian-propaganda-posts-says-ukraine/92922060 | Source: India Times [09:40] TR Bot russian propaganda: Big Tech firms fail to take down Russian propaganda posts, says Ukraine, CIO News, ET CIO [09:40] matey one of things about an anti-rms-coalition of thousands [09:40] matey is that its damned near impossible to tell who the leader is [09:40] TR News "In Bulgaria, the Kremlin paid journalists, political analysts and other influential citizens 2,000 euros a month to post pro-Russian content" https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-s-information-war-expands-through-eastern-europe-/6662042.html | Source: VOA News [09:40] TR Bot Russia's Information War Expands Through Eastern Europe [09:40] matey am i sure it even matters? not at all [09:40] matey but ive been trying to figure it out for years [09:40] matey its an extremely important chapter in free software history [09:41] matey and it will remain a pivotal point in free softwares trajectory [09:41] matey i almost feel sorry for anyone who thought it would improve anything [09:41] TR News "This sort of overreach is generally known as the Scunthorpe Problem." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/07/saay-what/ | Source: Terence Eden [09:41] TR Bot Saay What? Terence Edens Blog [09:42] TR News "The two leaders are beginning a series of meetings through which the Biden administration hopes to improve relations between the two countries" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/joe-biden-mohammed-bin-salman-fist-bump-1383809/ | Source: Rolling Stone [09:42] TR Bot Biden Fist-Bumps Mohammed bin Salman During Saudi Visit - Rolling Stone [09:42] matey its funny because there was a point where i thought stallman was to blame [09:42] matey and i wanted him to step down [09:43] TR News Price of eggs at Aldi nearly doubled in a few months! [09:43] matey but the moment a group sprand up to demand this, i realised there was something going on i had known nothing about [09:43] matey imo stallman had stopped running things even before 2019 [09:43] matey when? thats another one i dont know [09:44] matey you know the scene in labyrinth where one guy only tells the truth and the other only lies? [09:45] matey raise that to the 9th power and thats what its like trying to figure out exactly what happened [09:45] matey the people that know cant be trusted [09:45] matey and the people who can be trusted dont know [09:46] matey hilarity ensues [09:46] matey and by hilarity i mean travesty [09:47] matey but theyre at least related [09:48] TR News "56% of all global data traffic last year." https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/eus-vestager-assessing-if-tech-giants-should-share-telecoms-network-costs-2022-05-02/ | Source: Reuters [09:48] TR Bot Vestager assessing if tech giants should share telecoms network costs | Reuters [09:48] TR News Digital News Publishers Association (DNPA) https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/government-wants-big-tech-to-pay-news-outlets-for-content/92912526 | Source: India Times [09:48] TR Bot big tech: Government wants Big Tech to pay news outlets for content, CIO News, ET CIO [09:48] matey complicating things further is the fact that outside of labyrinth, the liars sometimes tell the truth, and everyone lies about something sometime [09:48] matey more hilarity ensues [09:48] matey and thus history is made [09:49] matey not unlike sausage [09:49] matey maybe even worse [09:49] TR News "There were around 4,000 reports from the United States and over one thousand each from France and India on Downdetector, which collates status reports from a number of sources" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/netflix-says-facing-streaming-issues-across-all-devices/92912514 | Source: India Times [09:49] TR Bot netflix inc: Netflix says facing streaming issues across all devices, CIO News, ET CIO [09:49] TR News "The TPM freaking out is a problem I ran into when I applied an official Lenovo UEFI update for March of 2021 on my ThinkBook" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/14/security-expert-matthew-garrett-blows-up-windows-by-enabling-the-microsoft-3rd-party-uefi-ca-certificate-then-says-the-bitlocker-backdoor-for-police-saved-his-data-from-the-tpm/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) [09:49] TR Bot Security expert Matthew Garrett blows up Windows by enabling the Microsoft 3rd Party UEFI CA certificate, then says the Bitlocker Backdoor (for police) saved his data from the TPM. BaronHK's Rants [09:50] matey we cant even say whats done is done [09:50] matey actually, some people do say exactly that [09:51] TR News "People can use them for extortion or harassment or in some cases to file claims to monetize somebody else's videos" https://text.npr.org/1111588405 | Source: NPR [09:51] TR Bot Lofi Girl disappeared from YouTube and reignited debate over bogus copyright claims [09:51] matey whats done is still being done [09:51] TR News "DMCA takedown notice for its two lo-fi hip-hop beats to relax/study to video streams on Sunday" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23205248/lofi-girl-hip-hop-beats-channel-dmca-takedown-restored | Source: The Verge [09:51] TR Bot Lofi Girl is back online after abusive copyright strikes - The Verge [09:51] matey after the invasion of iraq came the occupation of iraq [09:52] matey fancy a vichy france where no one had any idea who hitler was [09:52] matey now thats a fucking coup [09:54] matey twist ending: the person who led the coup against stallman was: [09:54] matey none other than stallman himself! [09:55] matey like warren beatty in bulworth [09:56] matey but why? [09:56] matey lieplanet wanted (and got) loyalty oaths [09:56] matey stallman was dead against them [09:56] matey so instead he staged a whole coup to find out which side was which, and expose the people trying to destroy him [09:57] matey (of course if he was that clever he would have done something about systemd) [09:57] matey but the "we have everything under control" myth is the biggest crap to come out of the fsf in 35 years, so [09:57] matey im not buying it, its just for laughs [09:58] TR News DMCA. "Lofi Girl is far from alone" https://www.forbes.com/sites/phoebeliu/2022/07/12/lofi-girl-returns-youtube-apologizes-for-removing-popular-music-stream-due-to-abusive-copyright-notice/ | Source: Forbes [09:58] TR Bot Lofi Girl Returns: YouTube Apologizes For Removing Popular Music Stream Due To Abusive Copyright Notice [09:58] TR News "Lofi Girl, founded by a French creator known only as Dimitri, owns the rights to all the music" https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/youtube-removes-internet-s-favourite-background-music-over-bogus-copyright-claim-20220711-p5b0s2.html | Source: Sydney Morning Herald [09:58] TR Bot Lofi Girl: YouTube removes beats to relax/study to videos over bogus copyright claim [09:59] TR News "YouTube's copyright claim system has faced lots of complaints from creators" https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-62133768 | Source: BBC [09:59] TR Bot Girl: YouTube sorry for taking down music stream - BBC News [09:59] matey an even kinder and cleverer theory [09:59] matey but this one is self-serving [09:59] matey stallman deliberately gutted the fsf because it was too much of a monopoly ● Jul 17 [10:00] matey so that a new federation would be forced to construct itself [10:00] matey but i think hes far more conservative, and prefers to micromanage [10:01] matey if a country nuked itself in the hopes of making a nuke-proof citizenry [10:01] TR News Re: Re: The Cheapest Cup of Tea in Town gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-17-re-re-the-cheapest-cup-of-tea-in-town.gmi [10:01] matey then i can see stallman doing this [10:01] matey the theory i actually hold is this [10:01] matey some people thought they had good intentions [10:01] matey and no one that has a clue what theyre doing is still around [10:02] TR News Renaming HFNP to Netamict; SourceHut deployment experience gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/07/17-netamict.gmi [10:02] matey and everything is fucked, organisationally [10:02] matey and the fsf will die horribly [10:02] matey of course theres a sinister, deliberate factor [10:03] matey but ive already said that its incredibly difficult to pinpoint it [10:03] matey you can poke at it, as long as palm-width accuracy is good enough for your touchscreen [10:04] matey its hard to follow the money [10:04] matey when the money is fucking everywhere you turn [10:04] TR News "an infrastructure redesign." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-160722.html#tJul%2016%2018:27:31 [10:04] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 16, 2022 [10:05] matey even harder when you know that some people dont give a shit about that, theyre just career reformers and did it out of pride and ambition [10:05] matey more hilarity ensues [10:06] TR News EFF ? https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/eff [10:06] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Eff [10:06] matey i hope this doesnt turn into another jfk unsolved mystery [10:06] matey that would be really obnoxious [10:06] TR News "I've been trying to use Lynx." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-150722.html#tJul%2015%2018:34:42 [10:06] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 15, 2022 [10:07] matey so far its a bit like that [10:07] TR News "In post, we will cover how to install minikube on Fedora 36 step by step." https://www.linuxbuzz.com/how-to-install-minikube-on-fedora/ | Source: Linux Buzz [10:07] TR Bot How to Install Minikube on Fedora 36 Step by Step [10:07] TR News NXP NPU i.MX 8M https://linuxgizmos.com/debix-model-a-packs-i-mx-8m-plus-and-mirrors-rpi-form-factor-2/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:07] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/debix-model-a-packs-i-mx-8m-plus-and-mirrors-rpi-form-factor-2/ ) [10:08] matey then again, i remember when they thought theyd never find the unabomber or the btk killer [10:08] TR News "This tutorial will explain in step by step how you can install Kubuntu 22.04 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish"." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/how-to-install-kubuntu-2204-with-dualboot-uefi-external-disk-method.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [10:08] TR Bot How To Install Kubuntu 22.04 with Dualboot, UEFI and External Disk Method [10:09] TR News "Last month anti-piracy initiative 'Operation 404' reportedly took down 226 websites and 461 piracy apps" https://torrentfreak.com/operation-404-hit-so-many-piracy-apps-its-surprising-there-are-any-left-220716/ | Source: Torrent Freak [10:09] TR Bot 404 Hit So Many Piracy Apps It's Surprising There Are Any Left * TorrentFreak [10:12] TR News UAE https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/16/rights-groups-urge-biden-secure-release-us-lawyer-held-uae | Source: Common Dreams [10:12] TR Bot Rights Groups Urge Biden to Secure Release of US Lawyer Held in UAE [10:16] TR News Plagiarists seek tools that make the plagiarism seem OK; no wonder they pursue stuff like Copilot, which is enraging coders whose code is being misused and misappropriated (relicensed as proprietary using proprietary software from Microsoft) http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/coplagiarist-covertly-relicensing-as-proprietary/ [10:16] TR Bot Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXIII CoPlagiarist: Microsofts GPL Violations and Plagiarism Tool Created by Serial Plagiarists | Techrights [10:17] TR News A new series that looks at how so-called journalists who are more like Microsoft moles justify their actions (at least to themselves) http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/microsoft-bishops/ [10:17] TR Bot Inside the Minds of Microsofts Media Operatives Part I Bishops in Rooks | Techrights [10:17] TR News IRC Proceedings: Saturday, July 16, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/irc-log-160722/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//techrights.org/2022/07/17/irc-log-160722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/17/irc-log-160722/ [10:17] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Saturday, July 16, 2022 | Techrights [10:18] TR News Irregular Shapes https://hackaday.com/2022/07/16/turning-irregular-shapes/ | Source: Hackaday [10:18] TR Bot Irregular Shapes | Hackaday [10:22] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:31] matey the coup seems to all claim theyre spartacus [10:32] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [10:32] matey 3000 spartaci [10:45] TR News Re(3): The Cheapest Cup of Tea in Town gemini://lasse.nerdcamp.net/gemlog/20220717.gmi [10:46] TR News "[D. Scott Williamson] paid $5 for a Roland JV-30 synthesizer at a garage sale." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/16/restoring-5-busted-synthesizer-made-easy-thanks-to-thermal/ | Source: Hackaday [10:46] TR Bot $5 Busted Synthesizer Made Easy, Thanks To Thermal | Hackaday [10:47] TR News "Jackson Hinkle is GAFAM's latest target in the establishment's pursuit to censor dissenting voices." https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/16/youtube-host-demonetized-for-challenging-u-s-government-on-ukraine/ | Source: Scheerpost [10:47] TR Bot Host Demonetized for Challenging U.S. Government on Ukraine scheerpost.com [10:47] TR News "According to [Asianometry], in 1986 the Soviet Union had about 10,000 computers." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/16/a-look-back-at-the-ussr-computer-industry/ | Source: Hackaday [10:47] TR Bot Look Back At The USSR Computer Industry | Hackaday [10:48] TR News "[Larry Wall], inventor of Perl, once famously said that programmers have three key virtues: sloth, hubris, and impatience." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/16/impatience-is-a-virtue-when-testing-this-old-maritime-teleprinter/ | Source: Hackaday [10:48] TR Bot Is A Virtue When Testing This Old Maritime Teleprinter | Hackaday [10:49] TR News "We here at Hackaday are super-duper proponents of" Free software https://hackaday.com/2022/07/16/fighting-the-good-fight/ | Source: Hackaday [10:49] TR Bot The Good Fight | Hackaday [10:51] TR News What is PVTM? Or why your Rockchip RK3588 CPU may not reach 2.4 GHz - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/17/what-is-pvtm-or-why-your-rockchip-rk3588-cpu-may-not-reach-2-4-ghz/ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/17/what-is-pvtm-or-why-your-rockchip-rk3588-cpu-may-not-reach-2-4-ghz/ [10:51] TR Bot What is PVTM? Or why your Rockchip RK3588 CPU may not reach 2.4 GHz - CNX Software [10:52] TR News Bits from Debian: DebConf22 starts today in Prizren https://bits.debian.org/2022/07/debconf22-starts.html [10:52] TR Bot DebConf22 starts today in Prizren - Bits from Debian [10:53] psydroid2 quite a bit of software is so terribly programmed that it being free software or open source doesn't even matter, it's best to simply consign it to the garbage bin of history [10:53] TR News Today is the 17th. 2 days from now or tomorrow we'll know if WIPO helps SPI crack down on Web site that use the word "Debian" in the name [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 17 [11:02] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167333 [11:02] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:02] TR News Free, Libre, and Open Source Software: PowerDNS Authoritative Server, ROS2, and Fighting The Good Fight Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167334 [11:02] TR Bot Free, Libre, and Open Source Software: PowerDNS Authoritative Server, ROS2, and Fighting The Good Fight | Tux Machines [11:03] TR News Devices: Raspberry Pi Pico W and Rockchip RK3588 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167335 [11:03] TR Bot Devices: Raspberry Pi Pico W and Rockchip RK3588 | Tux Machines [11:07] *matey has quit (connection closed) [11:09] psydroid2 does the US have anything like this? [11:09] psydroid2 https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor [11:10] TR Bot Open Source Observatory (OSOR) | Joinup [11:13] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6ns8essgqzx42.irc) has joined #techrights [11:15] schestowitz[TR] miceosoft [11:15] schestowitz[TR] it comes with laser beams [11:15] schestowitz[TR] observing the target [11:15] schestowitz[TR] and shooting or invading [11:16] TR News Links 16/07/2022: SCaLE 19x Plans and DebConf22 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/debconf22/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/17/debconf22/ [11:16] TR Bot Links 16/07/2022: SCaLE 19x Plans and DebConf22 | Techrights [11:16] TR News Debian DebConf22 in Prizren, Kosovo Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167336 [11:16] TR Bot Debian DebConf22 in Prizren, Kosovo | Tux Machines [11:16] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167337 [11:16] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [11:26] DaemonFC Terrible software that doesn't even matter if it is open source? [11:26] DaemonFC Microsoft puts out some open source software, but it usually only does what it's supposed to if it runs on Windows or is a client for Windows somehow. [11:27] DaemonFC They don't produce anything that's legitimately useful without their proprietary software, so whether that component/program is open source fails to matter. [11:33] schestowitz[TR] aye [11:33] psydroid2 I wasn't talking about Microsoft, but I consider their open source software mainly abandonware or teaseware [11:34] psydroid2 I find that quite a bit of free software is so terrible and ends up consuming so much memory, that it's simply unusable [11:35] DaemonFC Windows Terminal is "open source". [11:35] psydroid2 sort of like enemies from within [11:35] DaemonFC They "open sourced" a "core Powershell" or something. [11:39] DaemonFC Useful shells on a POSIX system are at least POSIX-like shells. Whether or not they conform entirely or not. [11:39] DaemonFC Many don't or just have a POSIX-Mode in case it's important at that moment, but are "close". [11:41] DaemonFC Larabel was going on and on about Powershell Core. [11:41] TR News Video streams https://debconf22.debconf.org/ [11:41] TR Bot DebConf 22 [11:41] DaemonFC He was producing spam articles about the "directx kernel modules" that don't implement directx. [11:41] DaemonFC They just allow WSL to get at it on Windows. [11:42] psydroid2 and then Microsoft and AMD make him buy a Lenovo laptop with an AMD chip with his own money because AMD only wants their hardware to be tested and benchmarked on Windows [11:42] DaemonFC Don't they send it for free and pay him to "review" it? [11:42] psydroid2 I stopped reading those DirectX articles [11:42] DaemonFC It's another ZDNet at this point. [11:43] psydroid2 no, he mentioned that in one of his recent "articles" [11:43] psydroid2 I think it's hilarious and sad at the same time [11:43] DaemonFC Benchmarking Windows is pretty dumb. [11:43] DaemonFC Like Intel, they can cheat on the benchmarks. [11:44] psydroid2 he feels he has to sell out and then even selling out isn't good enough to get free hardware even for "review" purposes [11:44] DaemonFC It's just like VW diesel engines. [11:44] DaemonFC Recognize a smog test and go into "smog test" mode. [11:44] DaemonFC Intel has been caught doing it repeatedly, like Nvidia has. [11:46] psydroid2 When I look at Geekbench results to see how chips perform relatively to each other I just ignore the Windows results, because they are usually lower and aren't very consistent [11:46] psydroid2 relative* [11:47] DaemonFC Well, Windows could recognize benchmark apps and change how it works until they close. [11:48] DaemonFC Send everything else to background priority, shut off graphics features that will drag down performance, turn disk write barriers off, disable antivirus, etc. [11:53] TR News "Weve seen signs of a looming splinternet for years." https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/05/protecting-the-internet-as-we-know-it-three-things-you-can-do-today-to-stop-the-splinternet/ [11:53] TR Bot Protecting the Internet As We Know It Three Things You Can Do Today To Stop the Splinternet - Internet Society [11:53] psydroid2 I just find it hilarious that I needed to assign 12 GB to my Windows 10 VM to get good performance out of it and it still runs like crap compared to GNU/Linux on the host or in a virtual machine [11:54] TR News "In total, the report names and traces the activities of 24 US Hindu nationalist organisations that have assets totalling nearly $100 million." https://thewire.in/world/new-report-traces-activities-of-us-based-hindutva-groups-over-last-7-years [11:54] TR Bot New Report Traces Activities of US-Based Hindutva Groups Over Last 7 Years [11:59] TR News "To crack down on pop-up ads and other annoyances, browsers implemented restrictions to these APIs, mostly in the form of tying them to the click event." https://macwright.com/2022/07/11/activation.html [11:59] TR Bot - macwright.com ● Jul 17 [12:00] TR News Twitter is s dying platform. RESUMING in it would be pointless. It's drowning. https://www.wezm.net/v2/posts/2022/resuming-read-rust-tweeting/ [12:00] TR Bot Resuming Read Rust Tweeting - Wesley Moore [12:01] TR News Twitter has been trying -- and failing -- to reinvent itself as all sorts of things. Now it's SUING someone for not wanting it... [12:04] TR News Bouncer, get your virtual hands off me - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/manal-al-sharif-facial-recognition-biometrics-surveillance/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/manal-al-sharif-facial-recognition-biometrics-surveillance/ [12:04] TR Bot Bouncer, get your virtual hands off me - Michael West [12:05] TR News Graft budget for Microsoft and pals https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhartung/2022/06/10/hawks-arguments-for-jacking-up-pentagon-spending-make-no-sense/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [12:05] TR Bot Hawks Arguments For Jacking Up Pentagon Spending Make No Sense [12:05] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [12:06] TR News Bailing out Microsoft et al https://tomdispatch.com/fueling-the-warfare-state/ http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [12:06] TR Bot the Warfare State - TomDispatch.com [12:07] DaemonFC I just find it hilarious that I needed to assign 12 GB to my Windows 10 VM to get good performance out of it and it still runs like crap compared to GNU/Linux on the host or in a virtual machine [12:07] DaemonFC Yeah, I had to do some installations of Windows 98 with the undocumented /nm switch to get it to install. [12:08] DaemonFC Microsoft jacked up the requirements because of the bloat they added relating to the antitrust trial and Internet Explorer, and other crap. [12:08] TR News "It will make more sense once I give some examples. So here is a partial list of programming language innovations that arent the languages syntax or semantics." https://earthly.dev/blog/programming-language-improvements/ [12:08] TR Bot The Slow March of Progress in Programming Language Tooling - Earthly Blog [12:08] DaemonFC So you get it on the computer, then run RoM II SE to de-bloat it. [12:08] DaemonFC Suddenly it works fine on just about anything with at least a 486. [12:09] DaemonFC They pretty much double the minimum amount of memory just to run Windows at all again every 2-5 years. [12:09] DaemonFC Even Windows 10 uses more than when it came out. [12:10] DaemonFC They have Skype and OneDrive and that MSN toolbar now. [12:10] psydroid2 it doesn't look like that strategy is working anymore [12:10] psydroid2 yes, I noticed that [12:10] DaemonFC It uses at least 600 MB more just from those! [12:10] psydroid2 there was this Windows 10 1809 release that was so terrible that it just sat like a duck in a VirtualBox VM [12:11] DaemonFC Yes, they forced unwanted major OS updates on you twice a year whether you wanted it or not. [12:12] DaemonFC They changed the way Windows worked so that there's just no way to target "Windows 10" with an application and expect consistent behavior. [12:12] psydroid2 at this point even the terrible Windows 11 feels faster than the latest Windows 10 [12:12] DaemonFC APIs were not only added and removed, but the way they behaved was totally reversed between builds. [12:12] psydroid2 in virtual machines at least [12:12] TR News LinkedIn: a site where people lie about themselves, just like Microsoft always lies about itself https://michaelwest.com.au/barilaro-padded-resume-in-advance-of-new-york-gig/ [12:12] TR Bot Barilaro padded resume in advance of New York gig - Michael West [12:13] TR News Uber should not even exist https://rubenerd.com/the-uber-files/ [12:13] TR Bot The Uber files [12:13] DaemonFC I can't remember which system call it was they changed. [12:13] psydroid2 does that mean that you could target a build of Windows 10 and then it would stop working on a newer build? [12:13] DaemonFC They reversed it so that it works either way past a certain Windows 10 build, for backwards compatibility. [12:13] psydroid2 the binaries you build, I mena [12:14] psydroid2 mean* [12:14] DaemonFC But if you use it in the documented way, your program will crash on all earlier builds along with Windows 7 and 8. [12:14] DaemonFC does that mean that you could target a build of Windows 10 and then it would stop working on a newer build? [12:14] DaemonFC Theoretically, yes. [12:14] TR News The world wont listen: African dream died long before a despot - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/the-world-wont-listen-african-dream-died-long-before-a-despot/ Source: michaelwest "story of colonialism, of independence, the interplay and failures of both" [12:14] TR Bot The world wont listen: African dream died long before a despot - Michael West [12:14] DaemonFC Microsoft changed the XAUDIO2 API, recently. [12:15] psydroid2 I've read that many binaries targetting older releases of Windows don't work on Windows 10 anymore, but do work on WINE [12:15] DaemonFC They removed a bunch of CLSIDs that they thought nothing was using by sticking "telemetry" probes on people's computers to see if they ran anything that used them. [12:16] DaemonFC That's technically a breaking change, but they used their spyware to determine if any Windows user on the planet ran a program that used those CLSIDs and over 6 months, they didn't get any feedback that there was a program launched that requested them. [12:16] DaemonFC The issue is that unless you change every piece of documentation, a developer running an older version of Windows could actually use it like that and push an update out. [12:17] TR News "New language were speaking, the one with newly-invented mild words, fails to deliver our feelings correctly." https://alirezahayati.com/2022/07/11/do-judge-a-book-by-its-cover/ [12:17] TR Bot Do judge a book by its cover - Ali Reza Hayati [12:17] DaemonFC And now you have something that works on his system but then he breaks it with an update, and then has to recall the update when the complaints that there's no sound come pouring in. [12:17] psydroid2 "XAudio2 is primarily intended for developing high performance audio engines for games." [12:17] psydroid2 "Compared to WASAPI, XAudio2 requires only a minimum amount of code even for complex audio solutions. Compared to the Media Foundation engine, XAudio2 is a low-level, low-latency C++ API that is designed for use in games." [12:17] DaemonFC For all of the messes Microsoft never cleans up, removing some CLSIDs that take up basically no space was really weird. [12:18] psydroid2 Do they not care about professional audio? [12:18] DaemonFC XAUDIO2 is basically there to force Windows games to use WMA and depend on Microsoft patents and being harder to port. [12:18] DaemonFC It works on Windows and XBOX and that's the end of it. [12:20] TR News Where is the Cradle of the Computer? https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/262034-where-is-the-cradle-of-the-computer/fulltext [12:20] TR Bot Where is the Cradle of the Computer? | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM [12:20] psydroid2 Godot is one of the engines that are truly cross-platform. And with the whole thing around Unity there are several studios and individuals who have said that they will be using Godot for new games. [12:21] psydroid2 Microsoft's "investment" in Godot can only be seen as a way to gain influence [12:21] psydroid2 There are even recent books about migrating from Unity to Godot [12:21] TR News Sadly this reuses Microsoft trash and is hosted by Microsoft proprietary prison https://matt-rickard.com/the-remix-ide/ [12:21] TR Bot The Remix IDE [12:22] DaemonFC Microsoft has been buying up game studios that already had perfectly good engines and then recompiling everything to have further dependencies on the latest Windows APIs. [12:22] TR News Why captions are suddenly everywhere and how they got there | AP News https://apnews.com/article/technology-health-95d57b9ad5d17246d50d84c84c3127d5 Source: apnews | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//apnews.com/article/technology-health-95d57b9ad5d17246d50d84c84c3127d5 [12:22] TR Bot Why captions are suddenly everywhere and how they got there | AP News [12:22] DaemonFC This is to force people to get a new computer with the latest Windows, and it breaks wine. [12:22] DaemonFC So it's a twofer. [12:23] schestowitz[TR] psydroid2: they did it to add c# [12:23] DaemonFC Suddenly a game that already ran fine from 2016 needs Windows APIs that didn't exist until 2019 or 2020. [12:23] schestowitz[TR] also, godot talks me down for saying get off github [12:23] schestowitz[TR] while they bag Microsoft money [12:23] DaemonFC They even did it to a game from 2012. [12:23] schestowitz[TR] microsofgt recently 'donated' to gnome [12:24] DaemonFC They recompiled it, broke all of the add-ons and mods that fans made and gave away for free.....and introduced APIs that make it depend on Windows 10 from 2019, and a "mod store" where you have to buy mods. [12:24] DaemonFC Now you can't buy the old version of Skyrim anymore, iirc. [12:24] TR News Can computers understand complex words and concepts? | UCLA https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/computers-understand-complex-words Source: newsroom | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/computers-understand-complex-words [12:24] TR Bot Can computers understand complex words and concepts? | UCLA [12:24] *KiKi has quit (connection closed) [12:24] DaemonFC And mods need to be rebuild for the updated build. [12:25] psydroid2 DaemonFC, is this strategy working, though? I think they only started doing this because they noticed they're bleeding users left and right and now they'll do anything to keep Windows relevant. [12:25] DaemonFC I doubt it. [12:25] DaemonFC Most people know how to bittorrent the old binaries that worked right. [12:25] DaemonFC And wine caught up with the XAUDIO2 stuff recently. [12:26] DaemonFC If anything, they're probably just angering their customers and causing more piracy. [12:26] DaemonFC The second time they rebuilt Skyrim was a total flop. [12:26] DaemonFC They've had almost no sales of that version. [12:27] DaemonFC There's just too many good mods out there that already had to be rebuilt once. [12:28] DaemonFC There's a fan-made patch that adds more of a backstory and dialog for many characters, and more ways to interact with them. Microsoft doesn't really want people to go around expanding "their" games. [12:28] DaemonFC Because fans have done a much better job than Microsoft has since they bought Bethesda. [12:28] DaemonFC Microsoft doesn't want to compete with "free games" that people created using their own engine. [12:28] TR News "Rapid increases in the speed and power of microchips have fueled innovation in many industries, but the future trajectory of that incredible progress may be in jeopardy." https://news.mit.edu/2022/neil-thompson-computing-power-innovation-0624 [12:28] TR Bot Q&A: Neil Thompson on computing power and innovation | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology [12:29] DaemonFC Even the Fallout New Vegas engine is still pretty useful. [12:29] DaemonFC Microsoft has sabotaged two major mods. [12:30] DaemonFC One by slipping a pedophile into the mod community that shoved a bunch of indecent stuff into the mod so they'd have to shut it down and disband. [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:30] DaemonFC Then they hire people working on mods for Fallout 4. [12:30] DaemonFC People contribute to the mods just to get a job, because Microsoft will hire them just to stop the mod from being built. [12:31] DaemonFC https://www.ginx.tv/en/video-games/fallout-new-vegas-mod-the-frontier-removed-over-pedophilic-art-by-one-of-its-developers [12:31] TR Bot Fallout mod The Frontier removed over "pedophilic art" by one of its developers | GINX Esports TV [12:31] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], The Dr. Pizza of Fallout. [12:31] DaemonFC Microsoft used another sicko to manage this. [12:33] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:33] psydroid2 what a sick company [12:33] psydroid2 not that that is any news [12:34] psydroid2 but people need to abandon the company now by starving it of all revenue [12:34] psydroid2 even then governments just keep bailing the company out [12:48] TR News First Images from the James Webb Space Telescope | NASA https://www.nasa.gov/webbfirstimages/ Source: nasa | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nasa.gov/webbfirstimages/ [12:48] TR Bot First Images from the James Webb Space Telescope | NASA [12:48] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft used another sicko to manage this. [12:48] schestowitz[TR] you are comparing CP hoarder [12:48] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:48] schestowitz[TR] to a man who serially raped kids [12:49] schestowitz[TR] god knoww ahat bill and jeff were up to [12:49] schestowitz[TR] maybe he liked to watch [12:49] schestowitz[TR] maybe participate [12:49] schestowitz[TR] but I doubt there was nothing to it [12:49] schestowitz[TR] you don't go on a plane with epstein cause "he knew lots of rich people" [12:49] schestowitz[TR] esp. not when you are the world's richest [12:51] TR News Twitter was ALREADY operating at considerable loss. It won't survive this. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-07-09/elon-s-out [12:51] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [12:52] TR News Apropos Musk https://blog.dshr.org/2022/07/pump-and-dump-schemes.html [12:52] TR Bot DSHR's Blog: Pump-and-Dump Schemes [12:54] TR News "As money gets more expensive, it will be interesting to see what distribution turned out to be proprietary and what wasn't." https://matt-rickard.com/distribution-in-a-downturn-2/ [12:54] TR Bot Distribution in a Downturn [12:55] TR News Robot Might Recreate the Elgin MarRobot Might Recreate the Elgin Marbles of Greece - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/08/science/elgin-marbles-3d-print.html Source: nytimes [12:55] TR Bot Robot Might Recreate the Elgin Marbles of Greece - The New York Times [12:56] TR News What is your crisis quotient? https://www.strategy-business.com/blog/What-is-your-crisis-quotient?rssid=all_updates Source: strategy-business | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.strategy-business.com/blog/What-is-your-crisis-quotient?rssid=all_updates [12:56] TR Bot What is your crisis quotient? [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 17 [13:00] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@tqe7crfj4xkaq.irc) has joined #techrights [13:01] TR News Should Machines Replace Mathematicians? - Scientific American https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-machines-replace-mathematicians/ Source: scientificamerican | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-machines-replace-mathematicians/ [13:01] TR Bot Should Machines Replace Mathematicians? - Scientific American [13:02] TR News "Machine learning is playing an ever-increasing role in biomedical research. Scientists at the Technical University of Munich (TUM) have now developed a new method of using molecular data to extract subtypes of illnesses. In the future, this method can help to support the study of larger patient groups." https://www.wzw.tum.de/index.php?id=185&L=1&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=2850&cHash=e4f796819cdefb8d605735e42bb3dcd0 [13:02] TR Bot News Detail - TUM School of Life Sciences [13:03] TR News "There are five Regional Internet Registries (RIR) in the world tasked with the responsibility to manage and allocate Internet number resources in specific parts of the world." https://sysadmin-journal.com/the-number-resource-organisation-writes-to-the-government-of-mauritius/ [13:03] TR Bot The Number Resource Organisation (NRO) writes to the Government of Mauritius [13:06] TR News "We frequently utilize non-linear approaches to represent the link between a collection of predictor factors and a response variable when the relationship between them is extremely complex." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/random-forest-machine-learning-introduction/ [13:06] TR Bot Forest Machine Learning Introduction | R-bloggers [13:07] TR News "Private equity vultures KKR are close to pitching a $20bn takeover bid for Australias largest private healthcare group, Ramsay Health Care which could see most of Australias private health system being controlled in foreign tax havens." https://michaelwest.com.au/australian-hospitals-gifted-to-the-caymans/ [13:07] TR Bot Australian Hospitals Gifted to the Caymans - Michael West [13:10] TR News We used to say Twitter would be dead in a few years. That was wrong. In a lot of ways (e.g. financial, impact, momentum) Twitter is ALREADY dead. It's just not declaring or stating that publicly. It's still just faking a lot of things. [13:11] TR News How much money does Bing LOSE for Microsoft? Still billions? Will Joe Biden continue to bail out Microsoft? Will savers be conned into tying their savings to gambling by Microsoft? https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/BingbotFrontPageBlock [13:11] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/BingbotFrontPageBlock [13:13] TR News The engineering model of technology-based learning - Critical Studies of EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY https://criticaledtech.com/2022/07/12/the-engineering-model-of-technology-based-learning/ Source: criticaledtech | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//criticaledtech.com/2022/07/12/the-engineering-model-of-technology-based-learning/ [13:13] TR Bot The engineering model of technology-based learning Critical Studies of EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY [13:15] TR News Worthy and "unworthy" victims demonstrate? https://rubenerd.com/sri-lanka-in-2022/ Source: rubenerd | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//rubenerd.com/sri-lanka-in-2022/ [13:15] TR Bot Sri Lanka in 2022 [13:20] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [13:24] TR News "And I think that that messaging is false and that San Franciscans are going to be pretty disappointed to find out that theyre waking up today with the same mayor, the same" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/8/san_francisco_da_recall_chesa_boudin [13:24] TR Bot Billionaire Democracy? San Francisco DA Chesa Boudin Ousted in Recall & L.A. Mayor Race Heads to Runoff | Democracy Now! [13:25] TR News Hitting the green accelerator: Labors renewables target ambitious but achievable - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/labors-renewable-energy-target-ambitious-but-achievable/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/labors-renewable-energy-target-ambitious-but-achievable/ [13:25] TR Bot Hitting the green accelerator: Labor's renewables target ambitious but achievable - Michael West [13:26] TR News "If youre looking to quickly learn and use one of these tools, youll probably find that Pulumi is easier to pick up. This is because Pulumi allows you to use your preferred programming language to define your infrastructure stackstheres no need to learn a specific DSL." https://earthly.dev/blog/pulumi-vs-terraform/ [13:26] TR Bot Pulumi vs Terraform - Earthly Blog [13:30] TR News "Becoming frustrated, I guessed that the way I clean my glasses might be causing the lenses to degrade quicker than necessary. I used to just breathe on them, and wipe them with whatever came handy (a shirt or whatever). Then I switched to using a dry microfibre cloth which I would wash whenever it started leaving horrible smear marks on the lens." https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/how_i_clean_my_glasses.html [13:30] TR Bot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). 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Qantas outsourcing debacle leaves taxpayers propping up Chinese baggage handling giant - Michael West [13:38] TR News Why Google ChromeOS Flex is quickly becoming a big deal https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/why-google-chromeos-flex-is-quickly-becoming-a-big-deal/ Source: aboutchromebooks | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/why-google-chromeos-flex-is-quickly-becoming-a-big-deal/ [13:38] TR Bot Why Google ChromeOS Flex is quickly becoming a big deal [13:40] TR News Rocky Linux 9.0 rocks new build system | InfoWorld http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167237#comment-34374 [13:40] TR News How To Use The GNU/Linux Command Line https://hackernoon.com/how-to-use-the-linux-command-line [13:40] TR Bot Rocky Linux 9 Officially Released with GNOME 40 Desktop, Improved Security | Tux Machines [13:40] TR Bot To Use The Linux Command Line | HackerNoon [13:44] TR News Chrome OS Flex turns old PCs and Macs into Chromebooks | IT PRO https://www.itpro.co.uk/software/operating-systems/362257/chrome-os-flex-official-pcs-macs Source: itpro | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.itpro.co.uk/software/operating-systems/362257/chrome-os-flex-official-pcs-macs [13:44] TR Bot Chrome OS Flex turns old PCs and Macs into Chromebooks | IT PRO [13:46] TR News "Tizen is a Linux-based free, open source IoT OS. 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[13:56] TR News Cyber attack over Gemini is now a thing gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/07-17-cyber-attack-over-gemini-is-now-a-thing.gmi [13:59] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167338 [13:59] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines ● Jul 17 [14:00] TR News Sparky 2022.07 Special Editions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167339 [14:00] TR Bot Sparky 2022.07 Special Editions | Tux Machines [14:47] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [14:49] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [14:50] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [14:50] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [14:52] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [14:53] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:54] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 17 [15:22] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [15:22] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [15:24] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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State TV host dismisses Kyiv's allegations, boasting about the successful "calibration" of the meeting of Ukrainian military officials with foreign arms suppliers."|nitter [15:39] *widelands has quit (Z-lined) [15:44] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [15:51] *hvxgr has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [15:54] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [15:54] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@9dx6tr92jfkyk.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 17 [16:00] TR News "the letter objected to front of package nutrition warning labels (NOM-051) that came into force on October 1, 2020, and policies to reduce and gradually phase out the use and importation of glyphosate and genetically modified corn." https://www.iatp.org/documents/letter-ambassador-tai-and-secretary-vilsack-usmca-and-mexico [16:00] TR Bot Letter to Ambassador Tai and Secretary Vilsack on USMCA and Mexico | IATP [16:01] TR News [Old] Another False Start in Africa Sold with Green Revolution Myths http://www.ipsnews.net/2021/04/another-false-start-africa-sold-green-revolution-myths/ [16:01] TR Bot Another False Start in Africa Sold with Green Revolution Myths | Inter Press Service [16:02] TR News Flexible I/O subsystem: This release includes the new flexible I/O subsystem. 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It could have been so profound, life changing, or brilliant. If only I could reach back into my 2019 brain and see exactly what it was I was about discuss. Probably [Microsoft] systemd." https://rubenerd.com/linux-something-something/ [16:17] TR Bot The reason Linux something something [16:19] TR News "I didn't write the last days because there wasn't much to say. I miss internet 24/7 though, and I'll be happy to get back on the computer without having to track my time and stop after the hour, which always happen too soon!" https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-07-14-old-computer-challenge-v2-day5.html [16:19] TR Bot Solene'% : The Old Computer Challenge V2: day 5 [16:21] TR News "When you are in KDE on the Win600, you don't get a soft keyboard at all. This is mildly inconvenient, but can be fixed with the moonlander yet again. 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In fact, the problems with that article from The Register start with the very first line" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/watch-as-the-microsoft-open-source [16:25] TR Bot Watch as the "Microsoft + Open Source" apologists push a narrative [16:26] TR News "But he, like the vast majority of the Tech Journalists out there (specifically the ones that often cover Enterprise Computing), is running interference for Microsoft." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/watch-as-the-microsoft-open-source [16:27] TR News "Promoting and advocating on Microsofts behalf, even when the facts dont support it. Exactly as predicted. Watch as it continues. Because it will. 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A group of researchers from from Ben-Gurion University of the Negev and Tel Aviv University have proven that it can be done." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/07/12/defeat-facial-recognition/ [16:35] TR Bot Researchers defeat facial recognition systems with universal face mask - Help Net Security [16:36] matey id place non-forkable into two (possibly overlapping) categories. either one is a dealbreaker, so the fact that they may have overlap is academic [16:36] TR News Europe's Blockchain: A Solution Struggling to Find a Problem https://cacm.acm.org/news/262635-europes-blockchain-a-solution-struggling-to-find-a-problem/fulltext hype and buzz, not much substance. Lots of waste. [16:36] TR Bot Europe's Blockchain: A Solution Struggling to Find a Problem | News | Communications of the ACM [16:36] matey the first one is that i believe some projects are deliberately, intentionally monopolistic [16:37] TR News Heat wave approaching, promising to almost break some temperature records tomorrow. And we don't have air conditioning... [16:37] matey these projects do what i call "simulated lockin"-- rms / parrots would agree that lockin is impossible with free licensed software. i call bunk on that. [16:37] matey a degree of lockin is absolutely possible [16:38] matey projects that will never be forked include rust, linux (kernel) and systemd [16:39] matey one of these is disputed. but i maintain these will never be forked [16:39] matey a grey area is trinity. its a fork. whether its really possible to maintain, we will see [16:40] matey i think kde 3 is probably semi-forkable, but they could prove it to be forkable [16:40] matey if kde 3 was forkable as trinity, but trinity cant be forked even if they want it to be-- that would be a good test of being semi-forkable [16:41] matey its a grey area, and harder to prove one way or the other [16:41] matey people say forks of systemd exist-- and thats true depending on what you think a fork is [16:42] matey but these forks are less viable than trinity, and theyre essentially bandages, not cures [16:42] matey rust is unforkable because a fork couldnt accomplish any of the things you would need a fork for in the first place [16:43] matey rust is inherently unstable by design, and as such is a web/clownapi posing as a programming language [16:44] matey and linux is a runaway train that its original author/designer doesnt even understand [16:44] schestowitz[TR] treue also [16:44] schestowitz[TR] it does not have to happen [16:44] schestowitz[TR] modular core [16:44] schestowitz[TR] keep is simple keep it light [16:44] schestowitz[TR] everrthing else an addon [16:44] schestowitz[TR] like devices drivers [16:44] matey but thats not their intentions at all [16:44] schestowitz[TR] businesses don't; care for it [16:44] schestowitz[TR] they are all selfish [16:45] schestowitz[TR] they shove their shit into it [16:45] matey and they dont want their shit removed [16:45] matey they want lockin [16:45] matey the other category of unforkability is bloat [16:45] schestowitz[TR] like Plastic [16:46] matey because bloat can pretty much do 90% of what deliberate lockin does [16:46] schestowitz[TR] keeping the overall kernel tidy is not in their interest [16:46] matey bloat is like what oil companies do to the ocean [16:46] matey it doesnt have to be intentional-- shit happens! [16:46] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/ [16:46] TR Bot Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights [16:46] matey and by shit i mean a disaster waiting to happen [16:46] schestowitz[TR] what happens when Torvalds says "no!" [16:46] schestowitz[TR] they're raping Torvalds [16:47] schestowitz[TR] torvalkds: no [16:47] schestowitz[TR] Red Hat: BUT YOU KNOW YOUM WANT TO! [16:47] schestowitz[TR] zemlin... tlwel him [16:47] schestowitz[TR] *tell [16:47] matey torvalds is like the guy who joined the mafia then tries to get out when it gets too messy [16:47] matey he knew it was the mafia, he did the blood oaths, but he had SOME integrity, and that didnt fit [16:47] matey he had maybe as much integrity as a shill could have... [16:48] matey but hes been a shill since open source was a thing [16:48] matey and open source eats their own [16:49] matey hes been used all his life [16:49] matey but he gave himself up to be used. thats what shilling is. [16:49] matey its like he signed a deal with the devil-- but then tried to say "no" when he came to collect [16:49] matey thats not how it works, you know [16:50] matey the only "no" that counts is dont sign [16:50] matey he could have renounced it, but he tried to keep the devil and reject the deal [16:50] matey thats not how it works [16:51] matey some software is so hopelessly bloated, that no one will ever fork it (even if they want to enough to give it a good try) [16:52] matey maybe trinity is an example of this. as i said it remains to be seen, but i have my suspicions [16:52] matey this is why its a grey area: time will tell [16:52] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1548692871678664710 [16:52] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russian state TV: Apti Alaudinov, the commander of Ramzan Kadyrov's Chechen detachment "Akhmat," tells state TV host Olga Skabeeva that Russian forces in Ukraine are fighting "holy war" against the LGBT & the Antichrist. He hopes Russia will soon face off with NATO."|nitter [16:52] matey software thats truly unforkable is de facto non-free [16:53] matey rms doesnt believe this exists, even when its right in front of him [16:53] matey this is something hes simply wrong about [16:53] matey freedom 4 (the right to remove the software) stands against this. freedom 4 was a de facto freedom. you could even call it freedom -1 [16:54] matey without the freedom to remove the software, the other freedoms are threatened [16:55] matey you cant use the software for any purpose [16:55] matey you cant study how the software works-- at least linus cant study how linux works [16:55] matey you cant fork the software, so freedom 3 is out [16:56] matey and as for verbatim copies, bloat certainly places limits on that and lockin makes it a more demanding task because [16:56] matey for example, with rust how many verbatim copies do you need to have? [16:56] matey with the right to make copies this is kind of a stretch [16:56] matey but still notably affected imo [16:57] matey if you cant remove the software, the whole premise of "controlling your computing" really becomes a farce [16:57] matey stallman and the entire fsf FUCKED UP royally [16:57] matey the dropped the ball in 2014, and never got it back [16:57] matey people begged them [16:58] matey roy says ibm... hey, maybe [16:58] matey but if ibm meant they couldnt do their job, then they fucked up the minute they trusted them [16:58] matey what about red hat [16:58] matey they fucked that up too [16:58] matey trusting a corporation with gcc and gdb [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [16:59] matey thats like the queen of england trusting the crown jewels to barclays bank [16:59] matey you dont put them in a fucking safe deposit box [16:59] matey or maybe you do (but i highly doubt it) ● Jul 17 [17:00] matey the fsf COMPLETLY fucked up [17:00] matey 10 years running [17:00] matey blew the entire mission of free software [17:00] matey (they had plenty of help) [17:00] matey result: gnu will die [17:00] matey i think maybe parts of it will be forked [17:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [17:00] matey bbut most of it wont be [17:01] matey most gnu forks would be like trinity at best [17:01] matey something makes gnu unmaintainable [17:02] matey like linux, it drifts towards the same problem that systemd has [17:02] matey it becomes a dumping ground [17:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [17:02] matey when people realise that the REAL magic of gnu was the license paired with de facto freedom 4 [17:02] matey and that gnu coded itself right out of freedom 4 [17:03] matey all theyre going to do is fork other things that do the same job [17:03] matey this is sort of tragic because gnu has incredible relevance to the movement [17:03] matey its loss is the movements loss [17:04] matey but the movement has already lost gnu, it doesnt even know why [17:04] matey rejecting freedom 4-- not officially, but in practice [17:04] matey is the error in theory that will be the death of gnu [17:05] matey the fsd is a theory, like evolution (in that it tries to explain something that definitely happens) [17:05] matey evolution is a process. darwinism is an explanation of that process [17:06] matey without freedom 4, the fsd is like lamarkianism [17:07] matey it only leads to strategies that will fail (and have failed) [17:07] matey when you get science wrong, the application will (ultimately) be wrong [17:08] matey the 4 freedoms are the point, of course-- we want them, we need them. without them its non-free [17:08] matey its just that they rest on, depend on, a de facto freedom that stallman just doesnt get [17:08] matey a freedom that was always there. but you know what happens to freedom thats neglected and not used [17:08] matey it dies [17:09] matey and if a de facto freedom the other 4 depended on dies [17:09] matey obviously, they die with it [17:09] matey thats the non-future of gnu [17:09] matey and the fsf is already dead [17:10] MinceR which is freedom 4? [17:10] matey openbsd is forkable, at least. its the best example i know, but it cant be the only example [17:11] matey which is freedom 4? http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/replace-freedom.png [17:12] matey "replace-- the freedom to NOT run the software" [17:13] matey systemd is the best example of lacking freedom 4, but everything else ive said this hour is about other examples [17:13] matey rust and ultimately linux are most likely examples of the same [17:13] MinceR ic [17:14] matey its my opinion (obviously) that if the fsf had understood this, and acted [17:14] TR News How efficient can cat(1) be? - Ariadnes Space https://ariadne.space/2022/07/17/how-efficient-can-cat1-be/ Source: ariadne | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ariadne.space/2022/07/17/how-efficient-can-cat1-be/ [17:14] TR Bot How efficient can cat(1) be? Ariadne's Space [17:14] matey they could not have supported systemd or rustification of software [17:14] matey id compare it to newtonian physics [17:14] matey newtonian physics are far from worthless [17:15] matey but there are other things working beneath them, that newton didnt understand (how could he) [17:15] TR News Planet Ubuntu and Planet Fedora: we run "content" about Apple MacOS.... but never mind, it's not like we have much of a community left anyway. We chose ShitHub and Microsoft instead. [17:15] matey theyre a foundation of our understanding, useful even today [17:15] matey they matter [17:15] matey and the workings beneath them dont entirely negate them [17:16] schestowitz[TR] its my opinion (obviously) that if the fsf had understood this, and acted [17:16] schestowitz[TR] fsf very inactive this year [17:16] matey its just that without that additional understanding, sometimes newtonian physics dont quite work (at some levesl) and we dont know why [17:16] matey fsf very inactive this year <- theyre done [17:16] matey once an organisation stops standing for its cause and switches over entirely to "awareness" [17:16] schestowitz[TR] they keep the szite online and have irc sessions [17:16] schestowitz[TR] in a hostile network (imho) [17:17] schestowitz[TR] even mike gerwitz left or something... he helped with FSD and weekly/monthly updates on gnu releases [17:17] schestowitz[TR] now it's done by bendali [17:17] matey i didnt know (im sceptical actually) that gerwitz was gone [17:17] schestowitz[TR] not entirely [17:18] matey i know he did fsd, but just because someone else does the announcements doesnt mean that gerwitz "left" [17:18] matey thats like saying stallmans not president because he doesnt hack on emacs anymore [17:18] schestowitz[TR] ""Hello! I'm Amin Bandali, and starting this month I'm taking over the GNU Spotlight from my fellow GNU hacker and free software activist Mike Gerwitz. [17:18] matey yeah [17:18] schestowitz[TR] https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/march-gnu-spotlight-with-amin-bandali-eleven-new-gnu-releases [17:18] schestowitz[TR] march [17:18] matey but thats a single task [17:18] TR Bot March GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Eleven new GNU releases! Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [17:18] matey right, but thats a single task [17:18] matey so was that the sole thing gerwitz did at the fsf? [17:19] matey public-facing and non-public-facing [17:19] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:19] matey i mean if gerwitz decided the toilets are really filthy and that should be his focus at the fsf, i wouldnt hold it against him [17:19] schestowitz[TR] "Mike, thank you so much for all your work over the past four years for curating and preparing the monthly GNU Spotlight, which is a personal favorite part of the Free Software Supporter for me. I will do my best to continue in your steps in bringing exciting news on new releases of GNU packages to our dear readers. [17:19] schestowitz[TR] " [17:20] matey Mike, thank you so much for all your work over the past four years for curating and preparing the monthly GNU Spotlight <- you see how this doesnt answer my question [17:20] matey as it pertains only to that one task [17:20] matey im not saying you should know the answer [17:20] matey i dont know the answer either [17:20] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@2h2f3rha8wtcu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:20] matey but if you do know the answer, that isnt it [17:21] TR News Phoronix slowinng down. 5 posts in weekends, used to be about 10. [17:21] matey if gerwitz literally had one job, and hes not doing it, AND he hasnt found a new one, then hes not there [17:22] matey if he stopped one task of several, or his only job and has a new task, hes not gone necessarily [17:22] schestowitz[TR] same for jperlow [17:22] matey we simply cant tell by whether or not hes doing gnu spotlight [17:22] schestowitz[TR] they are less active [17:22] schestowitz[TR] they lessen involvement or commitment [17:22] matey the organisation itself is done [17:22] matey it doesnt stand for anything so its primary cause to exist is :P [17:23] matey its the non-profit equivalent of a shell corporation [17:23] matey gave its biggest assets to ibm [17:23] matey barclays crown jewels [17:23] matey ltd [17:23] matey to ibm <- and maybe microsoft [17:24] matey then just to be thorough, they killed free software jesus! [17:25] matey its not enough to destroy the temple [17:25] TR News 15 Best Free Linux ERP Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167340 [17:26] TR Bot 15 Best Free Linux ERP Software | Tux Machines [17:26] schestowitz[TR] the next step is topping up CoC with DoD [17:26] schestowitz[TR] a new contract for who can play ball [17:26] matey you mean CoE [17:26] matey DoD was always part of the picture [17:26] schestowitz[TR] DoD DeciiDes [17:26] schestowitz[TR] no, this is more blatant now [17:26] matey deicides too [17:27] schestowitz[TR] https://lwn.net/Articles/901254/ [17:27] TR Bot US military wants to understand the most important software on Earth (MIT Technology Review) [LWN.net] [17:27] schestowitz[TR] the comments here are good [17:27] schestowitz[TR] ignore the article [17:27] matey standing up to the dod isnt impossible [17:27] schestowitz[TR] focus on the kernel reactions to it [17:27] matey de raadt did it [17:27] schestowitz[TR] in the name of "protecting" us [17:27] matey so did the pentagon papers guy [17:27] schestowitz[TR] matey: yes, to darpa [17:28] schestowitz[TR] this article is about darpa [17:28] schestowitz[TR] DARPA/DoD taking CoC up a notch these days; they'll soon demand that only Pentagon-approved coders can develop Free software that the US adopts for use https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/07/14/1055900/download-open-source-insecurity-linux-military-gene-editing-plants-crispr/ [17:28] TR Bot Russian propaganda is filtering back onto social media | MIT Technology Review [17:28] matey darpa is a subet of the dod, i think [17:28] matey subset [17:28] schestowitz[TR] DARPA stands for Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. Is DoD renamed from Department of WAR to "Defense" (narrative reversal), then DARPA is really WARPA! War or Weapons Advanced Research Projects Agency [17:28] matey if youre standing up to darpa youre standing up to the dod [17:28] schestowitz[TR] it's the "gewnerous" and science-loving arm [17:29] matey like bell labs to bell [17:29] schestowitz[TR] "labs" [17:29] matey together with al gore they invented the internet [17:29] *node3 (~node3@freenode/user/node3) has joined #techrights [17:29] matey okay, bell unisex mancave then [17:29] schestowitz[TR] he said he had offered some funding [17:29] britney DARPA funds HAARP - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program [17:29] TR Bot High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program - Wikipedia [17:29] matey /me has seen pictures [17:29] schestowitz[TR] but the internet started when gore was a kid, I think [17:30] matey vint cerf (who really did invent the internet) defended gore [17:30] schestowitz[TR] "the internet" = packet protoicols? [17:30] matey what gore actually did was push the internet into the next stage of funding [17:31] matey without gore, the american aspect of the internet might have gone the way of the dear hubble telescope [17:31] schestowitz[TR] now the US gives funding to companies that militarise the Internet [17:31] matey imagine the internet not lasting longer than habble [17:31] matey hubble [17:31] schestowitz[TR] it'll hobble its way [17:31] schestowitz[TR] somehow [17:33] matey militarising the internet is like religiousising jesus [17:33] matey if you want to win this, youll have to take over the military [17:33] matey short of that, youll have to be like de raadt [17:34] matey note that de raadt succeeded in that where stallman failed [17:34] matey im not saying de raadt is a better person, or a stronger activist [17:34] matey only that he was successful [17:34] matey i dont think of de raadt as an activist really [17:34] schestowitz[TR] is he an activist? [17:34] matey no [17:34] matey but he shows a lot of integrity [17:34] schestowitz[TR] you beat me to it [17:35] matey and integrity without activism can trump activism without integrity [17:35] matey i think stallman has at least as much integrity as de raadt [17:35] matey though in fairness-- stallman was never fair to de raadt [17:36] matey and de raadt... was pretty vicious in his self-defence [17:36] matey to the point where i thought he was simply an arsehole [17:36] matey but i only had one half of the story [17:36] matey if present me told past me id be an openbsd fan, id be completely shocked [17:36] matey but past me only had half of the story [17:37] matey openbsd isnt forkable because de raadt is an activist [17:38] matey openbsd is forkable because its freely licensed and well designed [17:38] matey which gets back to what psydruid was saying [17:38] matey only i think poorly designed software can be forked sometimes [17:38] matey it depends imo on what kind of poor design [17:39] matey so i dont think hes wrong, its more like im quibbling (but i do that when i think its an important quibble) [17:39] matey (and sometimes just for fun, but this time its important) [17:39] schestowitz[TR] there is a japenese distro basdd on openbsd [17:39] schestowitz[TR] but not a fork [17:40] schestowitz[TR] I forgot its werird name [17:40] schestowitz[TR] fungula something [17:40] matey openbsd doesnt have a live edition [17:40] matey fuguita [17:40] matey which to me sounds italian, not japanese :) [17:40] schestowitz[TR] but it is japenese [17:40] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [17:40] matey im joking, it sounds very japanese. but not the way i imagine it being pronounced :) [17:40] schestowitz[TR] sabayon is gone [17:40] schestowitz[TR] I thought about it 2 days ago [17:40] schestowitz[TR] its developer too is hardly heard of any longer [17:41] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@z75zzfvwx8rs6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:41] schestowitz[TR] he used to be rather vocal and high profile [17:41] matey i thought sabayon was related to antix [17:41] matey there were two or three distros that were related [17:41] matey in the way that funtoo is related to other things [17:41] schestowitz[TR] the only well known gentoo deriv now is chromeos and it's horrific to one's freedom [17:42] matey except for the init :) [17:42] matey but yeah, definitely [17:42] matey i tried chromeos but i didnt inhale [17:42] matey but seriously, i have tried chromeos [17:42] schestowitz[TR] it tired you [17:42] matey probably for less than a week, and certainly when it was newer [17:42] schestowitz[TR] *tried [17:42] matey all distros try me. [17:42] schestowitz[TR] chromeos is useless [17:43] matey close enough [17:43] schestowitz[TR] unless you turn it into something else or wire and replace it [17:43] matey yeah [17:43] schestowitz[TR] *wipe [17:43] schestowitz[TR] the direction of windiows is the same [17:43] schestowitz[TR] I saw it briefly [17:43] schestowitz[TR] they removed a lot of things [17:43] matey when i try things like chromeos, and its separated-at-birth twin, android-x86 [17:43] schestowitz[TR] it's mean to limit what users can do [17:43] schestowitz[TR] di-empower people [17:43] schestowitz[TR] I suppose regimes like it better that way [17:43] schestowitz[TR] restrictive guis [17:44] schestowitz[TR] the software is remoate [17:44] schestowitz[TR] the files are remote [17:44] schestowitz[TR] a third party can do things to your files [17:44] schestowitz[TR] a third party can do things to 'your' software] [17:44] schestowitz[TR] it just changes any tie they wish [17:44] schestowitz[TR] *time [17:44] schestowitz[TR] this isn't a brand issue [17:44] schestowitz[TR] it's a trend issue [17:45] matey http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Librethreat_Database#Appliance-like_Distributions [17:45] TR Bot Librethreat Database - Techrights [17:45] schestowitz[TR] and over time a lot of power was taken away from users [17:45] schestowitz[TR] and control over their files [17:45] schestowitz[TR] last njight we spoke about why gnu/linux distros, without your consent, start mining and indexing all your files [17:45] schestowitz[TR] and slow down your machine building models from your stored files [17:45] matey via which component [17:45] *CrystalMath (~coderain@jphct4zj8vt3w.irc) has joined #techrights [17:45] schestowitz[TR] baloo/depumok/akonadi.. [17:45] matey i saw a video on youtube [17:45] matey the worst gnu/linux distro [17:45] schestowitz[TR] *nepu [17:46] matey baloo/depumok/akonadi <- so kde [17:46] schestowitz[TR] no [17:46] schestowitz[TR] also gnome tracker [17:46] schestowitz[TR] sometime,s both [17:46] matey oh [17:46] schestowitz[TR] griding away at the disk [17:46] matey http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Librethreat_Database#GNOME [17:46] TR Bot Librethreat Database - Techrights [17:46] matey :) [17:48] matey gnome is freely licensed [17:48] matey so technically you can just fork it, problem solved :> [17:48] schestowitz[TR] mate, [17:48] schestowitz[TR] cinnamon [17:48] schestowitz[TR] what else? [17:48] schestowitz[TR] KDE has TDE [17:48] matey mate is like trinity, but [17:48] XRevan86 GNOME Flashback, in a way. [17:48] matey i didnt mention it when i was talking about trinity [17:49] matey trinity is a grey area [17:49] matey maybe the edge of whats forkable [17:49] matey mate... might have better odds [17:49] matey i dont hate gnome 2 [17:49] XRevan86 Trinity is stuck on TQt3. [17:49] matey i liked gnome 2 [17:49] matey Trinity is stuck on TQt3 <- that is actually the point [17:49] schestowitz[TR] matey: you will like mate [17:49] XRevan86 Yes, in that Trinity is unique. [17:49] matey thats funny [17:49] matey but i used mate [17:50] schestowitz[TR] rianne tried it [17:50] matey and mate is a perfectly reasonable replacement of gnome 2 of course [17:50] matey only the names have been changed, to protect microsoft [17:50] matey if i was going to use a github-based desktop [17:50] matey i would go back to icewm. [17:50] matey but i liked mate-- even more, i like what mate was trying to do [17:51] matey make it so that people didnt have to get roped into gnome 3 [17:51] matey gnome was like "fuck you, eat it and like it" [17:51] TR News "Unfortunately, this airlines network engineers know how to restrict access to just messaging. I keep getting incomplete headers whenever I try to connect to a Gemini server. I guess theres a whitelist or something that allows certain domains only, e.g. WhatsApp, iMessage, &c." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1658053571 [17:51] matey mate was like: "or not!" [17:51] matey so mate had my admiration for that [17:52] matey i only have two things against mate and one isnt their fault [17:52] matey the first is github-- thats their fault [17:52] TR News "I'm glad at least one other person finds my Sefaria proxy useful :D Also wanted to write that I haven't forgotten about the bugs in the proxy. I'm working on fixing them, I just have 5 million projects I'm working on for gemini, lol." gemini://station.martinrue.com/krixano/f4dae86a74994099801655e652da705c [17:52] matey the second is they were systematically marginalised by debian [17:52] matey debian seems to have a real problem with any attempt to make software a fucking choice [17:52] matey they werent alwasy like that-- quite the contrary [17:52] matey but they did it to mate, they did it to sysvinit [17:53] matey and that wasnt even the first time [17:53] matey and each time they did it, debian lost me [17:53] matey one year, my gf and i made fucking debian christmas ornaments [17:53] matey i used to have a debian logo on my monitor [17:53] matey i thought about getting a fucking debian tattoo [17:53] matey thank christ i didnt [17:53] matey on my monito <- instead of whatever brand the monitor was [17:54] matey but each time debian pulled a fuck-the-user move, they lost me [17:54] schestowitz[TR] deb is alive [17:54] schestowitz[TR] ian is dead [17:54] matey THEY LIVE! [17:54] schestowitz[TR] wipo decides on the trademark this week [17:54] schestowitz[TR] your monitor can be sued [17:54] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [17:54] schestowitz[TR] and repossessed by spi :-) [17:54] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live [17:55] TR Bot They Live - Wikipedia [17:55] matey i dont have that monitor anymore [17:55] matey and i removed the debian lego anyway [17:55] matey spi is a scam [17:55] schestowitz[TR] there are now some people CALLED "Debian" [17:55] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [17:55] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [17:55] matey it should be called sci digital [17:55] matey software in the corporate interest [17:55] matey "-digital" as a joke [17:56] matey sky digital is a notoriously sleazy outfit [17:56] matey murdoch? (not ian, rupert) [17:56] matey murdock/murdoch isnt even a connection i was going for [17:56] matey its just an example of a silly joke that makes you go "whoa" when you find the other connections [17:56] matey at least until you put the weed down [17:57] matey (i havent actually smoked in a year or so, and i havent many times) [17:57] matey (that was medical grade though. "whoa") [17:58] matey elon musk will put ai in weed of course [17:58] matey in soviet russia, car drives you (i think you did this one already) [17:58] matey (you probably werent the first either) [17:58] TR News Quantum Games -- Really! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rdC4QPoAEaA Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//yewtu.be/watch?v=rdC4QPoAEaA [17:58] matey its probably got its own subreddit [17:59] TR Bot Quantum Games -- Really! - Invidious [17:59] matey The end of an era as Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox exits Sky [17:59] matey news.sky.com/ [17:59] TR News Notice how malicious surveillance has become... and who for https://www.techtarget.com/making-sense-of-intent-data-for-sales-and-marketing-pros/ [17:59] TR Bot Sense of Intent Data for Sales and Marketing Pros - TechTarget ● Jul 17 [18:00] matey so theres a connection, but im not sure what the nature of it is [18:00] matey How Sky turned on the Rupert Murdoch agenda under new ownership [18:00] matey inews.co.uk [18:00] TR News "Mapping out your purchase intent data journey" wtf? [18:01] matey LONDON (Reuters Breakingviews) - Rupert Murdoch's latest promises lack credibility. The media mogul's 21st Century Fox offered concessions to protect the independence of Sky's news arm in an... [18:01] matey see, thats what they should have said about ibm promising it wouldnt control red hat [18:01] matey "lacks credibility" [18:01] TR News Social control media = metaphorical electrodes for "purchase intent data journey" [18:01] matey Rupert Murdoch's Attempted Takeover Of Sky Has Been Provisionally Blocked [18:02] matey but sky is still sleazy. just not rupert murdoch sleazy, i guess [18:02] matey you have to get up pretty early in the dark ages to be as sleazy as murdoch [18:02] TR News BigCorp: we need to maximise our "purchase intent data journey"... DO IT, GEEK! [18:02] matey 2017: Murdoch is no longer the big man of this multimedia age [18:02] matey well yeah, hes ancient [18:03] matey march 1931! [18:03] schestowitz[TR] murdoch "Diversified" [18:04] matey so in his 90s [18:04] schestowitz[TR] Murdochs Nuclear Option https://michaelwest.com.au/murdochs-nuclear-option/ [18:04] TR Bot Murdoch's Nuclear Option - Michael West [18:04] matey practically old enough to be stallmans dad [18:04] schestowitz[TR] "are you my real dad, dude...? [18:05] matey oh and [18:05] matey he took over news limited from his family [18:06] britney matey - https://spyscape.com/article/mysteries-of-the-illuminati-the-secret-rulers-of-the-world [18:06] TR Bot Secrets of the Illuminati: The Top-Secret Society With Plans to Rule the World [18:07] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [18:07] matey illuminati... never heard of them https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tCXGJQYZ9JA en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Brown [18:07] TR Bot Taylor Swift - Delicate - Invidious [18:08] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac [18:08] TR Bot Tupac Shakur - Wikipedia [18:09] matey Shakur was born in New York City to parents who were both political activists and Black Panther Party members. [18:09] matey did not know they were both black panthers [18:10] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GpPbYGJRg0Q [18:10] TR Bot ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GpPbYGJRg0Q ) [18:10] schestowitz[TR] bagira? [18:11] matey that might not be the interview i was looking for [18:11] schestowitz[TR] grew up like a jungle book [18:11] matey he did an mtv interview that didnt air and it criticised capitalism [18:11] schestowitz[TR] so did mlk [18:11] schestowitz[TR] but the MSM does not mention this [18:11] schestowitz[TR] same for malala [18:11] schestowitz[TR] they cherry-pick [18:12] schestowitz[TR] like "sjw" do [18:12] matey sjw, fake left [18:12] schestowitz[TR] corporate pseudo-activism [18:12] matey the same [18:13] schestowitz[TR] bombing ok [18:13] matey hijack a cause. do coke. sell products. [18:13] schestowitz[TR] just describe the corpses using their pronouns fo choice [18:13] matey tank man (he/him) [18:14] TR News "BMW Group's membership restates their commitment to work with, and in, sustainable ecosystems".. meh, spits coffee... yeah, nothing says "sustainable ecosystems" like BMW cars https://www.theautochannel.com/news/2022/07/15/1168186-bmw-group-joins-linux-foundation-s-yocto-project.html [18:14] TR Bot BMW Group Joins the Linux Foundation's Yocto Project [18:17] matey when people who dont know anything about politics take up legitimate leftish causes, they run out of ideas and ultimately turn to corporations to solve their problems [18:17] matey the fsf is a prime example [18:17] matey but it wouldnt be that way without having its legitimacy stamped out of it by open source [18:18] matey open source is a supreme example [18:18] matey of course it panders to the left [18:18] matey pandering is what open source actually means [18:18] matey open source panders to fucking everything [18:19] schestowitz[TR] I think yuo conflate coporations with left [18:19] schestowitz[TR] the "right" is more corporate-firiendly [18:19] schestowitz[TR] open source is pandering to capitalists [18:19] matey thats the most ridiculous thing youve ever said [18:19] schestowitz[TR] the losers with suits and ties [18:19] matey i said that the fake left turns to corporations [18:19] matey thats not possible if the left and corporations are the same thing [18:19] schestowitz[TR] these typos: [18:19] schestowitz[TR] "Mapping out your purchase intent data journey" wtf? [18:20] schestowitz[TR] *types [18:20] matey the fake left is fake not-corporate [18:20] schestowitz[TR] open source is a supreme example [18:20] schestowitz[TR] of course it panders to the left [18:21] schestowitz[TR] criticising OSI is homoiphobic [18:21] matey yes well [18:21] matey when i said osi is terrible, of course i meant gay people [18:21] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ [18:21] TR Bot The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights [18:22] TR News SunFounder Raspberry Pi 7 Inch Touchscreen review Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167341 [18:22] TR Bot SunFounder Raspberry Pi 7 Inch Touchscreen review | Tux Machines [18:22] schestowitz[TR] those tactics become more universal in some circles [18:22] schestowitz[TR] like insinuating techrights is tolerating rape [18:23] schestowitz[TR] based on nothing [18:23] schestowitz[TR] spamnil used to compare me to trump [18:23] matey no i remember you did an article called "rape isnt so bad, we should just learn to live with it" [18:23] schestowitz[TR] not baseing it on anything [18:23] matey (not really) [18:23] schestowitz[TR] just saying "trump" [18:24] matey playing the trump card [18:24] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:24] matey i could list the things you have in common with trump, but it wouldnt serve any purpose here [18:24] schestowitz[TR] how about joe biden, eh? [18:24] schestowitz[TR] some anti-trump.. [18:24] matey at any rate, you dont have anything in common with trump that spamnil doesnt also have [18:25] schestowitz[TR] Donald Biden https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/15/bone-saw-pariah-fist-bump-outrage-biden-greets-murderous-saudi-prince | Source: Common Dream [18:25] TR Bot From 'Bone Saw' to 'Pariah' to 'Fist Bump': Outrage as Biden Greets Murderous Saudi Prince [18:25] matey joe biden is a member of the clinton dynasty [18:25] matey trump may have also been at one point [18:25] schestowitz[TR] later in october or november they won't earn votes [18:25] matey but trump went farther right [18:25] schestowitz[TR] and GOPKK regains seats [18:25] schestowitz[TR] and then they tell us the PROGRESSIVES are the problem [18:25] matey votes? where were going, we dont need... votes [18:25] schestowitz[TR] for not learning to accept MbS [18:26] matey fake progressives are a problem [18:26] matey they keep politics in a pro-corporate holding pattern [18:26] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [18:26] schestowitz[TR] like people who work for salesforce [18:26] schestowitz[TR] ICE [18:26] schestowitz[TR] and use Gtihub (propriewtary [18:26] schestowitz[TR] while running OSI [18:26] matey thats homophobic [18:26] schestowitz[TR] and then condemning GitHub over ICEE [18:26] schestowitz[TR] while taking salries from slaesforce (ICE) [18:26] schestowitz[TR] that's the fakes in a nutshell [18:27] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icee [18:27] TR Bot The Icee Company - Wikipedia [18:27] schestowitz[TR] by the way, I got legal threat from someone who is himself defaming many people [18:27] schestowitz[TR] and whose partner was sued for defamation [18:27] schestowitz[TR] so now the defamers theaten to sue [18:27] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@ws2bs482xtmk6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:27] schestowitz[TR] that's fake progressives for you [18:27] matey and whose partner was sued for defamation <- thats interesting [18:28] matey i can think of a few reasons people would sue you. the primary one being because you criticise corporations [18:28] matey but i dont think any of them will take [18:29] schestowitz[TR] https://www.law360.com/cases/5ca508fe4e4a6f7fec01f971 https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/14868600/todd-v-reichwein/ https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/USCOURTS-cand-4_19-cv-01751 [18:29] TR Bot Todd v. Reichwein [18:29] TR Bot v. Lovecruft, 4:19-cv-01751 CourtListener.com [18:29] TR Bot govinfo [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:30] matey the slurpee was invented because a soda fountain was broken [18:31] matey his soda fountain broke, leaving Knedlik without cold drinks in the Kansas heat. So he sent away for bottles of soda and plunged them into the frosty depths of his freezer to chill for his thirsty customers. When he popped the lids, the sodas instantly turned slushy [18:32] matey and it came from dairy queen [18:33] schestowitz[TR] weird story [18:34] matey In 1965, the ICEE craze got the attention of 7-Eleven stores who purchased some of the machines, renaming their frosty brew Slurpee [18:34] matey i did not know they came from the same inventor. [18:34] matey ive had an icee. i did not know slurpees originated with icee [18:35] matey i didnt know they were connected to dairy queen [18:35] schestowitz[TR] makes sense [18:35] schestowitz[TR] you can delier and leverage channels [18:35] schestowitz[TR] send ice cream [18:35] schestowitz[TR] along with frozen goods based on water [18:35] matey but again, it was an accident [18:35] schestowitz[TR] so they say [18:35] matey they sold sodas. the machine broke [18:36] matey they stuck cans in a freezer [18:36] schestowitz[TR] sounds llike an urban legand [18:36] matey then they set out to imitate the effect [18:36] schestowitz[TR] it's not like a hard inven tion to come by [18:36] matey no it was literally an accident [18:36] schestowitz[TR] I reckon some humans tens off thousanmds of years ago could figure out a way [18:36] matey one ive made myself in my freezer many unforunate times [18:36] matey frozen soda in a freezer is a BITCH to clean [18:37] schestowitz[TR] use BLEACH [18:37] schestowitz[TR] BLEACH PLEASE! [18:37] matey bleachbitch [18:37] matey works on bathroom servers [18:37] matey with scripting bubbles [18:38] schestowitz[TR] BELCH PLEASE. sudo BELCH PLEASE. OK. [18:38] matey Because few people experience brain freeze when enjoying a cold treat, some scientists believe the trigeminal nerve may be more sensitive in these individuals. [18:39] matey the scientific name for brain freeze [18:39] matey sphenopalatine ganglioneuralgia [18:39] matey wasnt he in star wars [18:41] matey https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/brain-freeze/ [18:41] TR Bot The science behind what causes brain freeze and how to stop it | BBC Science Focus Magazine [18:42] matey As the pain does not last long, there is no point in reaching for the painkillers as the sensation will have passed by the time the drugs kick in. The best thing to do is to spit out the offending food (if youre in casual company!) and try to warm the roof of your mouth as quickly as possible either by pressing your tongue against your palate, or by taking a sip of a warm drink. [18:43] matey really just a few sips of water (not iced) usually does it [18:43] matey you dont have to spit anything out [18:44] matey defragging https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/does-the-brain-eat-itself/ [18:44] TR Bot Yes, your brain is eating itself all the time. Here's why | BBC Science Focus Magazine [18:45] matey technically this means we are all zombies [18:45] matey not just jesus [18:46] matey Although not identifying direct causal links, an Imperial College London survey of over 250,000 people found that those who read a lot scored more highly for verbal intelligence and gamers scored more highly for working memory. [18:46] matey https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/can-i-boost-my-iq/ [18:46] TR Bot IQ | What is it, and can you boost yours? | BBC Science Focus Magazine [18:47] matey so gaming increases more than hand-eye coordination [18:47] matey While the jurys out on whether attempting to increase your IQ is worth it, you might just find increased exercise, reading and gaming are ultimately more rewarding than a number on a scale. [18:48] *matey has quit (connection closed) [18:51] TR News Links 17/07/2022: Microsofts Ramped Up Attacks on GNU/Linux, Sparky 2022.07 Special Editions | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/sparky-2022-07-special-editions/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/17/sparky-2022-07-special-editions/ [18:51] TR Bot Links 17/07/2022: Microsofts Ramped Up Attacks on GNU/Linux, Sparky 2022.07 Special Editions | Techrights [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 17 [19:00] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167342 [19:00] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:02] TR News Desktop/Laptop/Consoles With GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167343 [19:02] TR Bot Desktop/Laptop/Consoles With GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [19:03] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167344 [19:03] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:10] Ariadne linode has really taken a crap since akamai bought them: https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/108664013608711047 [19:10] TR Bot Ariadne Conill: "kn-dfw-wrk01: 16.3% steal time over the past 6 ho" - Treehouse Mastodon [19:21] schestowitz[TR] when you mentioned linode I was gonna mention aakmai [19:21] schestowitz[TR] but I did not know they had already cnhanged things [19:21] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6unmuhzzqbv2c.irc) has joined #techrights [19:21] DaemonFC frozen soda in a freezer is a BITCH to clean [19:22] DaemonFC Yeah, I accidentally blew up a can of diet pepsi before we moved out of Rogers Park where that insane landlord was fucking with me every day and breaking the law and raising our rent constantly by ridiculous amounts. [19:23] DaemonFC She took a picture of it while she was blowing up my phone at 2-3 AM (and she had entered our apartment while we were still paid up, to do that!) and threatened that she would "Add cleaning fees to our bill.". [19:24] DaemonFC I told her we weren't quite finished and the place would be clean, and that I planned to complain to the city about her illegal entry into the unit and several other things and go to the police because telephone harassment is illegal, if she continued to bother us. [19:24] DaemonFC I said, "I know your husband is a lawyer. If you want him representing you in a criminal trial for harassment then you can keep going.". [19:25] DaemonFC But exploded soft drinks are not difficult if the refrigerator is empty anyway. [19:25] DaemonFC Just unplug it and prop the door and when it reaches room temperature, you just wipe it up. [19:25] DaemonFC That's why I hadn't cleaned it up when it happened. [19:26] DaemonFC I didn't want to chisel frozen pepsi off the freezer and we were moving in two weeks anyway. [19:26] DaemonFC Easier to just deal with it then. [19:26] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [19:27] DaemonFC Mr. GULAG never had a problem working for a company that helped Trump kill kids in cages. [19:28] DaemonFC Google's trying to make pregnant women feel safer about using it. [19:28] DaemonFC It basically admits "OK, so if you use Google we have a lot of information that could send you to prison. But....trust us, we won't log your visits to abortion clinics!". [19:28] DaemonFC Well, that's one thing, and maybe they will and maybe they won't, but it hardly matters. [19:29] DaemonFC The average Android app from the Play store has about 20 tracking libraries and they all have GPS access. [19:29] DaemonFC So Ken Paxton goes and pays one of them and bypasses the courts and hands that data to the local prosecutor instead. [19:29] DaemonFC mjg59_ helped a company that will soon put women in prison for abortions. [19:29] DaemonFC He's really really big on the whole sjw thing, you know. [19:30] DaemonFC Maybe Google won't do it directly, but their platform is made to leak data, so it will. [19:30] DaemonFC If you go out of state for an abortion, you need to leave your phone at home. [19:31] DaemonFC And you need to not use Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, etc to look for info about clinics or how to get the abortion pill or something, because then they'll have that. [19:32] DaemonFC I mean, like, if you use Tor Browser and set it to "Safest" and use DuckDuckGo Lite (the one where there's no JavaScript), you _might_ be okay. [19:32] DaemonFC Running JavaScript and other active content just creates too many situations where an unmasking attack against you goes ahead and works. [19:33] DaemonFC And people aren't technical experts. They won't know all this stuff. [19:33] DaemonFC They'll open Chrome and type in "How do I get to the abortion clinic in Illinois?" and then BAM, 10 years in prison when they get back to Texas. [19:33] DaemonFC You know, take their "phone" with them. [19:34] DaemonFC Location data leaking out, gets bought in bulk by prosecutors who don't need a warrant now. [19:34] DaemonFC If you're looking up anything that even may be a crime....that's not how you do it. [19:34] DaemonFC For years and years, they just go pull all your Google shit, including search histories. [19:35] DaemonFC "He was looking at this, he wanted to know that!" [19:35] DaemonFC "Well, why would you want to know how to build a bomb if you aren't the guy who built a bomb!?" [19:35] DaemonFC That's Google working as it was designed. [19:35] DaemonFC Now it will go after women. [19:35] DaemonFC For something that was protected by the Constitution for 50 years. 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The following are some loose ideas regarding them and potential digital counterparts." gemini://compudanzas.net/biosejo_120220717.gmi [20:34] TR News The Dutch Baby Incident gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-07_dutch-baby-incident.gmi [20:35] *phanes has quit (Quit: leaving) [20:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [20:43] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [20:45] Ariadne schestowitz[TR]: yeah when do you want to do the xfs_repair [20:46] schestowitz[TR] I am available any time [20:46] schestowitz[TR] we also made a local backup of important files just in case aboout an hour ago [20:48] DaemonFC https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/lynx/pull-request/4 [20:48] TR Bot add xhtml-support patch - rpms/lynx - src.fedoraproject.org [20:48] DaemonFC It's nice to see lynx still gets attention. [20:48] DaemonFC Lynx is so old I remember talking to the lady at my ISP about it back in their office in 1998. [20:49] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@7au7cchx5x986.irc) has joined #techrights [20:51] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], It's my goal that everything I write online should be readable even if someone turns off images, videos, Web fonts, and all active content. [20:51] DaemonFC Unfortunately, all of the desktop publishing applications for Wordpress seem to be dead. [20:52] DaemonFC But people can read it with Lynx or NewsWaffle if they want to. [20:52] DaemonFC Modern Web sites have really no accessibility in mind at all. [20:53] DaemonFC I was amused at how well some bittorrent Web sites function in Lynx. [20:53] schestowitz[TR] yeah, I know what you mean [20:53] schestowitz[TR] I've moaned about this for years [20:53] DaemonFC They display the infohash on the screen or you can select the link and copy just that part, and then when you open qbittorrent, it knows what's in the clipboard. [20:54] DaemonFC At least something browser-related that Lou Montulli was involved with is alive and kicking. [20:54] DaemonFC He was one of the main authors of Lynx when he was in college in the early 90s. [20:55] DaemonFC It was meant to make it easy and fast to get at hypertext on the University's system. [20:55] DaemonFC If NCSA Mosaic still worked, I'd probably be using that. [20:56] DaemonFC The only branch that survived past 1997 was something that was really intended to be ran on Macs, which is unfortunate. [20:56] DaemonFC The author of that fork described it as "Lynx with images". It could handle modern sites enough to do that. [20:57] DaemonFC Without utterly collapsing Classic Mac OS on late 90s and early 2000s models. [20:57] DaemonFC So that was an achievement. [20:57] DaemonFC Classic Mac OS was a real piece of shit operating system. [20:57] DaemonFC In many ways, Windows 98 was designed better than that. [20:58] schestowitz[TR] multitasking was poor [20:58] schestowitz[TR] I had an old mac at the office, it qwould lockm sometimes [20:58] DaemonFC Windows 98 handled multitasking better without completely locking up vs. the Mac, and that ought to tell you how bad the Mac was. [20:59] DaemonFC The Macs frequently locked up so bad that the only way to recover from it was yanking the power cord and hoping you didn't corrupt something that had been open. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] DaemonFC Cooperative Multitasking is just another way of saying it multitasks until you run one badly written application that brings the whole computer down. [20:59] DaemonFC So it's a joke. ● Jul 17 [21:00] DaemonFC DOS or the Commodore were more desirable than this. [21:01] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/17/russian-tv-protester-marina-ovsyannikova-detained-near-moscow-news "Russian TV protester Marina Ovsyannikova detained near Moscow" [21:01] TR Bot . [21:01] DaemonFC DOS had no real concept of multitasking. There were TSRs, but those were really just managing the system in the background and were usually small and carefully written to where they didn't crash while you had another program up and running. [21:01] XRevan86 Warm welcome back to Moscow. [21:01] DaemonFC And I liked DOS because of that. [21:01] DaemonFC You opened Windows, you had no idea what would happen. [21:02] DaemonFC The Commodore Amiga was probably the first home computer that got multitasking right and wasn't a disaster. [21:03] DaemonFC But I had one of the old Commodores that had a BASIC that they co-developed with Microsoft, but that wasn't the OS. The OS was a really minimalistic program that was essentially what we'd call a set of BIOS interfaces, called KERNAL (yes, that's how it was spelled). [21:04] DaemonFC You never interacted with it as a user, directly. It interacted with the program you had open, and there was no multitasking really. [21:05] DaemonFC So at like 4 or 5 years old I had the Commodore, and I ran my software for it off of tape drives and really large floppy disks. [21:05] DaemonFC And even the Commodore at that point was more capable than a typical DOS computer, for another 10 years or so, in some ways, if the programmer was careful to do things efficiently. [21:06] DaemonFC I wouldn't say that DOS clearly pulled out ahead of the 80s Commodores in video gaming until you started to see things like X-Wing and DOOM. [21:07] DaemonFC But by that point, you expected it to, right? You had a computer with a 386 or 486 and 4, 8, or 16 MB of RAM. [21:08] DaemonFC Not a CPU that was barely over 1 Mhz and 64 KB of RAM running things off floppies and tapes. [21:08] DaemonFC The Amiga would have done a lot better except that it was really REALLY expensive. [21:09] DaemonFC It had a feature set of a mid 90s (1995-1997) PC more than 10 years early. And the price you'd expect that to be in the mid 80s. [21:09] DaemonFC People just weren't willing to pay that at that time, especially considering that the home computer market was still a novelty and most didn't even have any sort of network to connect it to. [21:11] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I think the modern Web is going to get bad to the point that people vomit and go back to text and selectively downloading things and so on as a protest. [21:11] DaemonFC But the Web will obviously be there and "imposed" by certain things, like online shopping or some assholes that demand you bank with it. [21:12] DaemonFC Governments will demand you use it to interact with them. [21:12] DaemonFC It's just all the worst people who absolutely insist on these bloated Web sites. If Lynx can't handle it, it's because the people running the site are complete shitheads. [21:15] schestowitz[TR] https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/04/21/manchester-town-hall-complaint/ [21:15] TR Bot Blog Archive Manchester Town Hall Complaint (Updated) [21:16] TR News "Im delighted to announce a new alpha release of GNU a2ps. This release involves minimal changes to functionality, but involves a considerable update to the build system and code cleanup and simplification, as well as bug fixes. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:30] TR News In 7 February 1892 Russia measured 67.8 C in Siberia [21:32] TR News Deadly hailstones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weather_records#/media/File:Hailstone.jpg [21:32] TR Bot List of weather records - Wikipedia [21:35] TR News "That smells like a compiler bug to me." https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/7/17/246 [21:35] TR Bot LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: mainline build failure of powerpc allmodconfig for prom_init_check [21:36] TR News Torvalds writing some mock code in his email client https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/7/17/152 https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/7/17/174 [21:36] TR Bot LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: mainline build failure of powerpc allmodconfig for prom_init_check [21:36] TR Bot LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [patch 02/38] x86/cpu: Use native_wrmsrl() in load_percpu_segment() [21:46] Ariadne ok [21:46] Ariadne doing the xfs_repair [21:46] schestowitz[TR] :-) [21:46] Ariadne i asked the VM to stop [21:48] schestowitz[TR] vda3 [21:51] TR News Three New Sparky 2022.07 Semi-Rolling Special Editions Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167339#comment-34376 [21:51] TR Bot Sparky 2022.07 Special Editions | Tux Machines [21:56] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). 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For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [22:04] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021 [22:04] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowitz[TR]@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *schestowitz[TR2] (~schestowitz[TR]@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6unmuhzzqbv2c.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *asusbox (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *lockeanarchist (~lockeanarchist@dbx7zd6rdshfe.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *schestowitz (~roy@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #techrights schestowitz [22:04] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *CParadoxum___ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *Seaduck- (~seaduck@ys9kag65kxsiu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [22:05] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@y56qsb6r6yg94.irc) has joined #techrights [22:05] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [22:05] Ariadne ok [22:05] Ariadne xfs shit repaired [22:05] schestowitz[TR2] YES!! 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[22:17] schestowitz[TR2] news.tuxmachines.org assigned [22:18] Ariadne tuxmachines-new [22:19] Ariadne schestowitz[TR2]: techrights-new ip: 204.197.160.3 [22:20] schestowitz[TR2] thank you! [22:21] TR News Three Main PC Operating Systems and #HowTo Choose the Best One for You Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167348 [22:21] TR Bot Three Main PC Operating Systems and How to Choose the Best One for You | Tux Machines [22:22] Ariadne schestowitz[TR2]: those containers are bare alpine ones, so you'll have to set up the jails appropriately [22:22] schestowitz[TR2] apk add openssh first [22:22] schestowitz[TR2] I got it from hv [22:23] Ariadne i would suggest setting up some workflow where the site is built with CI [22:23] Ariadne gitea + woodpecker or such [22:23] schestowitz[TR2] we'll deploy from git [22:23] schestowitz[TR2] but we've not added the files to git yet, want to move git to the alpine side [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] fetch http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] ERROR: http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main: temporary error (try again later) [22:25] TR Bot Index of /alpine/edge/main/ [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] heh, I'll figure this out ... [22:25] Ariadne oh [22:25] Ariadne echo nameserver 9.9.9.9 > /etc/resolv.conf [22:26] schestowitz[TR2] I'll run that [22:26] schestowitz[TR2] ssh installed [22:26] XRevan86 I'd like to interject for a moment and note that the unrestricted version is 9.9.9.10 [22:27] Ariadne unrestricted version? [22:27] XRevan86 Ariadne: Quad9 by default is designed with malware blocking in mind. [22:27] XRevan86 A selling point if ye will. [22:27] Ariadne i know [22:27] Ariadne but in this case [22:27] Ariadne does it matter ? [22:27] XRevan86 Is that really desirable on a server? [22:28] Ariadne i don't see why not [22:28] XRevan86 If that triggers for whatever reason, it may complicate things. [22:28] Ariadne is schestowitz[TR2] planning to connect to malware C&C servers ? [22:28] Ariadne :) [22:29] schestowitz[TR2] I'm setting up the users atm :-) [22:29] XRevan86 Ariadne: Is there a list publicly available? [22:29] Ariadne a list of malware C&C servers? [22:29] XRevan86 Ariadne: That Quad9 blocks specifically. [22:29] Ariadne no idea [22:30] Ariadne i mean, he is free to use another DNS server if he wishes [22:30] Ariadne 9.9.9.9 is just physically inside the same network [22:31] XRevan86 > Quad9 can protect mail servers against malicious hosts and phishing domains which appear in our blended threat intelligence list [22:31] XRevan86 Maybe that can be useful. [22:32] Ariadne geeze you're scrutinizing this like its run by putin or something [22:32] Ariadne all they do is download the various shadowserver lists and block the C&C domains in them [22:32] XRevan86 Ariadne: DNS interference does leave a bad taste in my mouth. [22:33] Ariadne and if some weirdo does pop the ... legacy PHP tuxmachines/techrights shit [22:33] Ariadne i'd like to make it a little difficult for him [22:33] Ariadne lol [22:34] schestowitz[TR2] heh [22:35] schestowitz[TR2] ssh and account all set up, we'll deploy the rest in a procedural way so that iot is reproducible [22:35] *acer-box (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [22:35] schestowitz[TR2] I was gonna install apache and say thanks Ariadne in the default page for the new address [22:35] schestowitz[TR2] bujt maybe we'll go with another webserver [22:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:35] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [22:36] schestowitz[TR2] http://gemini.techrights.org/ runs nginx [22:36] schestowitz[TR2] from my living room [22:36] TR Bot Gemini Proxy for Techrights [22:37] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:37] britney Hi Ariadne :) [22:41] Ariadne hi [22:42] TR News Linux 5.19-rc7 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167349 [22:42] TR Bot Linux 5.19-rc7 | Tux Machines ● Jul 17 [23:08] *matey (~matey@vetart7w4mqps.irc) has joined #techrights [23:09] schestowitz[TR2] wb, matey [23:09] schestowitz[TR2] we've moved to alpine [23:09] schestowitz[TR2] well, technically thee sites have not yet [23:09] matey thats better [23:09] schestowitz[TR2] back to [23:09] schestowitz[TR2] service something up/start [23:09] matey if youre going to use gnu/linux (which alpine isnt, but gnu is dead anyway so) [23:09] schestowitz[TR2] no "systemctl" [23:09] matey then alpine is [23:10] matey better than fedora, or most distros [23:10] matey competent people [23:10] MinceR i gave netbsd a try, it's hardware support isn't exactly impressive [23:10] MinceR s/t's/ts/ [23:10] matey netbsd is a bit easier on some sbcs [23:10] matey other than that its a pain [23:10] MinceR i tried it on my ThinkPad X60s [23:11] *node3 has quit (Z-lined) [23:11] schestowitz[TR2] starting the ssh daemon, setting to autorestart (rc), installing openssh takes less than a minute [23:11] matey the mistake thats become the norm is thinking of software as a product [23:11] matey the correct mentality (the one that actually serves us well, i mean) [23:11] matey is the one that existed before microsoft [23:11] matey software is a project [23:11] matey you learn it, or someone helps you with it [23:12] MinceR it's both [23:12] matey software isnt a product-- and when it is, it sucks [23:12] matey often it sucks anyway [23:12] MinceR you can't really afford to be an expert in the entire stack anymore [23:12] matey but when its a product, youre fucked [23:12] matey im no expert [23:13] matey we need projects that attract experts, or at least competent people [23:13] matey are alpine devs experts? i dont know, how would i [23:13] matey are they competent? i believe so [23:14] matey i see plenty of competence expressed [23:14] MinceR devs have to be experts, users don't [23:14] matey users should have basic computer literacy [23:14] matey they dont, thats something weve cheated them out of [23:14] MinceR basic computer literacy is sufficient for using a product [23:14] matey literacy isnt expertise [23:14] MinceR not really sufficient for taking part in a project [23:14] matey weve cheated them out of the basics [23:14] matey the oil changes and gauge checking [23:14] matey weve sacrificed the user to jiffy noob [23:15] mjg59_ I think Alpine is sufficiently tightly scoped that it's possible to be an expert in the entire stack [23:15] matey everyone suffers for this-- including the devs [23:15] MinceR i doubt it [23:15] matey now most devs have to do a bunch of idiotic bullshit to placate people who dont even know what htey want [23:15] MinceR part of that stack is a highly bloated kernel [23:16] matey funnily enough, the biggest reason id never use alpine is the kernel [23:16] MinceR i could spend days just going through menuconfig these days [23:16] matey but they dont write the kernel so its sort of not their fault [23:16] matey but you can blame them for using it-- i sort of do [23:16] matey im trying to give credit where credits due [23:16] MinceR and that's with user documentation built in [23:16] matey so i dont even know what menuconfig is [23:16] MinceR lol [23:17] matey hey i managed to use gnu/linux for like a decade and a half without it [23:17] MinceR it's a tool to configure the Linux you build [23:17] matey if its related to [23:17] MinceR what to build into the kernel, what to build as modules, what not to build, other stuff [23:17] matey i was going to say, if its related to building the kernel, ive ever done that [23:17] matey that was my guess based on the context of what you were saying [23:17] matey the most complex thing ive ever built is cpython [23:17] matey and only for openbsd [23:18] matey menuconfig is part of a kernel i think is hopeless-- and you probably think so too [23:18] matey linux is non-free [23:18] matey linux-libre is at best, barely free [23:18] matey but you know i consider unforkable to non-free and both are unforkable [23:19] mjg59_ Linux has a lot of code in it, but you don't need to care about most of it for most scenarios [23:19] MinceR i don't think menuconfig is hopeless [23:19] matey but you don't need to care about most of it for most scenarios <- and this is really true of most software [23:19] MinceR i think Linux has too much stuff in it for its own good [23:19] matey i think Linux has too much stuff in it for its own goo <- i agree with this too [23:20] matey i dont code in c. i had a program in c with some kind of array in it (2d) [23:20] mjg59_ Being able to deal with the entire stack is about being able to work with everything that's relevant to the situation you're managing [23:20] matey i changed the array which changed a graphical mask and managed to recompile it [23:20] matey without really knowing c. [23:20] matey needless to say [23:20] matey i didnt understand 99% of the code [23:20] matey and i didnt touch 99% of the ode [23:20] matey and it was all really a single file. [23:21] mjg59_ Oh yeah the first patches I sent to anything show I really didn't understand C at the time [23:21] mjg59_ I still managed to fix dvdcss so it worked on my DVD drive [23:21] matey but take the man page of mplayer for example [23:21] matey im really glad that stuff is there [23:21] MinceR i meant "being an expert in the entire stack" as being an expert in every element of the stack, to the point of being able to develop it and use it without user documentation [23:21] matey but because its so much stuff, i have to save it-- then filter out the funny formatting [23:21] matey then page through it just to get anything from the man page [23:21] MinceR (as if it was your project) [23:21] matey other than the basic options, which arent the ones i need a man page for [23:22] matey i doubt mjg has an "i wrote linux" delusion [23:22] MinceR i'm not referring to that [23:22] matey he seems pretty realistic (about this) [23:22] MinceR i'm referring to the "product" aspect of these projects [23:22] MinceR something you can hand to a user and expect them to be able to use it [23:23] matey but the best product wouldnt be a product [23:23] matey it would be something they can always fix [23:23] matey and i dont just mean source code [23:23] matey though that should also be an option [23:23] matey there are so many things that are broken that i can fix with just grep [23:23] matey grep [23:23] matey a tool consisting mostly of options i will never use [23:24] matey 90% of my uses of group could be replaced with a 3 line python script [23:24] matey but then grep is always there [23:24] *phanes (~phanes@vdaaabp6wfeza.irc) has joined #techrights [23:25] matey (most regexes in python are a fucking pain but i only tried regexes in python once-- i mostly use grep without them) [23:25] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/17/the-trouble-with-ubuntu-snaps-ubuntu-and-ubuntu-derivatives/ [23:25] TR Bot The trouble with Ubuntu Snaps, Ubuntu, and Ubuntu derivatives. BaronHK's Rants [23:25] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I used a meme. [23:25] matey i use ^ and -v more than any other feature in grep [23:25] schestowitz[TR2] i am making one now [23:25] matey a regex? [23:25] schestowitz[TR2] animated [23:25] schestowitz[TR2] meme [23:26] DaemonFC libdvdcss was one of my favorite programs before other people did the heavy lifting for me. [23:27] matey people who reject solutions that contain 25-character lines of text will end up with solutions that require 25 libraries, which wont remain maintained or compatible [23:28] matey the problem with products isnt just the philosophy [23:28] matey products lead to takeovers [23:28] matey projects have other shit to do [23:28] MinceR then we're doomed [23:28] matey yes [23:28] DaemonFC The Blu Ray DRM doesn't even work. They used Blu Ray discs as a venus fly trap. The earliest set of demands it made on the user weren't that much worse than DVDs. You could even hook it up through Component Video (analog) and it looked great. Then they started enforcing a flag that said "downgrade this to 540p", and then the connectors were removed. Then you had to buy another player because it stopped agreeing to load new discs. Then once you [23:28] DaemonFC had the next player, 5 years later, it refused to load new discs and they wanted you to pay for another player. [23:28] matey as long as we rely on products, we are doomed [23:29] DaemonFC But there are DVD players from the 90s that still play new releases. [23:29] MinceR good luck being an expert in a kernel, a userland, a libc, a compiler and a web browser at the same time [23:29] matey two people who agree on very little have debunked that as a requirement [23:29] MinceR just to do your banking online [23:29] matey stallman has never installed gnu/linux [23:29] matey i have never compiled a kernel [23:29] MinceR and then i didn't even mention the hardware [23:29] matey same issue with hardware [23:29] MinceR which is also made of products [23:29] matey and cant be anymore [23:30] matey will be, for some time [23:30] matey has to stop [23:30] MinceR rms relies on the services of others [23:30] MinceR is that better than relying on products? [23:30] matey depends on the services [23:30] MinceR not even knowing how to install the os you're using? [23:30] matey if you think im going for man-on-island, off-grid "independence" im not [23:31] matey computers are good at automation [23:31] matey if everyone had to write their own kernel, that would be fucking ridiculous [23:31] matey even if everybody compiled their own kernel, it would have to be REALLY EASY to do [23:31] matey some would argue it is. [23:31] matey you dispute it, youre a software engineer [23:31] matey youre not a shill [23:31] matey so it cant be THAT easy [23:32] matey fwiw i never thought it was easy to compile the kernel [23:32] matey you just support that [23:32] DaemonFC It wasn't that difficult to compile a kernel the last time I did it. [23:32] matey point being [23:32] matey someone else writes a kernel [23:32] matey someone else wrote grep [23:32] matey someone else wrote python [23:32] matey thats ok [23:33] matey (id like a lighter version of python too) [23:33] MinceR 18 003135 < matey> even if everybody compiled their own kernel, it would have to be REALLY EASY to do [23:33] MinceR and that "REALLY EASY" is, in my opinion, what makes a product a product [23:33] TR News [Meme] EPOs Presidential Lapdogs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/presidential-lapdogs/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/17/presidential-lapdogs/ [23:33] TR Bot [Meme] EPOs Presidential Lapdogs | Techrights [23:34] MinceR i had to go through it yesterday, installing an OS i knew very little about [23:34] matey products dont make things really easy [23:34] MinceR and i could connect it to the Internet and run a web browser without knowing most of the stack because it was a product [23:34] matey what products do is slightly different [23:35] MinceR it was meant to be used by someone who wasn't at home in every project it is made of [23:35] matey you dont have to know the stack for it to not be a product [23:35] mjg59_ Anyway, as we all know, if you don't have a CS degree you can't be an expert in anything related to software [23:35] matey if you don't have a CS degree you can't be an expert in anything related to software <- call me sceptical [23:35] matey /me assumes joke [23:36] MinceR i wonder where mjg59_'s assertion comes from [23:36] matey probably tongue in cheek [23:36] MinceR i don't think mjg59_ even has a CS degree [23:36] TR News Linux Weekly Roundup #191 https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/07/linux-weekly-roundup-191.html [23:36] TR Bot Linux Weekly Roundup #191 [23:36] matey bio? [23:36] MinceR something like that, i think [23:36] schestowitz[TR2] you can be a pilot without going to relevant training [23:36] MinceR my degree isn't CS either, it's from the more technical side of things :) [23:36] schestowitz[TR2] I can be a d.r as in GP without going to med school [23:36] mjg59_ Yeah I don't have a CS degree [23:36] schestowitz[TR2] the title is important, not thse qualification [23:37] mjg59_ But Roy keeps complaining that because I don't have a CS degree, I can't be an expert in anything related to software [23:37] matey oh ok [23:37] MinceR that's new to me [23:37] matey no i believe it [23:37] matey but the way he says it its probably just a poke at mjg specifically [23:37] matey not a general-- truth [23:37] matey he likes to imply mjg has no qualifications at all [23:38] matey as a response to mjg making some assertions about security that i dont think please any of us [23:38] MinceR no formal qualifications, perhaps [23:38] TR News "There's so many fun pieces of software out there and some of that software is designed to replace standards especially some of the unix standards but should you actually use them or are they just a waste of time." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=u18mLXfQpOs [23:38] TR Bot Should You Ever Replace Core Linux Utils & Software? - Invidious [23:39] britney mjg59_, are you a lizard? [23:39] matey mostly i think mjg is on the wrong side, and i disagree with him VERY strongly on some thing i think are important [23:39] matey thats different from having no qualifications [23:39] schestowitz[TR2] I could give people training sessions without qualifications either http://scifitness.co.uk/consultants/ [23:39] TR Bot Consultants SCI Fitness [23:40] schestowitz[TR2] it doesn't mean you feasibly cannot [23:40] schestowitz[TR2] but you shout from a tall/high horse [23:40] schestowitz[TR2] like you are a security guru [23:40] schestowitz[TR2] but little to show for it [23:40] schestowitz[TR2] and you don't promote real security [23:40] matey mjg says everything matter of factly (or seems to) [23:41] matey but i know so many people that do that, its hard to single out anyone for it [23:41] mjg59_ britney: Not to the best of my knowledge [23:41] TR News Today we take a closer look at Menidjels career at the EPO and why hes likely to be an enthusiastic proponent of patents on maths/algorithms something thats not meant to ever happen http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/razik-menidjel-explained/ [23:41] TR Bot The EPO Bubble Part VI From Humble Examiner to CO | Techrights [23:41] matey i could rant about mjg for hours, but i wouldnt bother with any critiques that i dont think apply to him [23:41] mjg59_ matey: I try to only say things here when I'm certain about things - if I'm uncertain, I stay quiet [23:41] TR News At the EPO, one gets promoted not for hard work but for compliance (not with the law but with illegal instructions from management); it also helps to be French like Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/presidential-lapdogs/ [23:41] TR Bot [Meme] EPOs Presidential Lapdogs | Techrights [23:42] *techrights_guest|36 (~957e8efb@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [23:42] techrights_guest|36 ay [23:42] schestowitz[TR2] hrelo, techrights_guest|36 [23:42] schestowitz[TR2] *hello [23:42] matey I try to only say things here when I'm certain about things <- i dont even bother going that far [23:42] matey if im uncertain, ill say something [23:42] matey but there are caveats [23:42] matey sometimes mincer debunks something instantly [23:43] schestowitz[TR2] it's a cancel fishing expedition [23:43] matey like when he said he would take turing complete over memory safe :) [23:43] schestowitz[TR2] looking for some BS [23:43] schestowitz[TR2] like someone talking of "reptilians" [23:43] *techrights_guest|36 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [23:43] matey it's a cancel fishing expedition looking for some B [23:43] schestowitz[TR2] and then painting the whole site as such [23:43] matey oh, probably [23:43] schestowitz[TR2] to make it seem bad [23:43] matey but if so the dossier must be in the terabytes by now [23:43] schestowitz[TR2] it's not about quantities [23:43] schestowitz[TR2] maybe typos go in the dossiers too [23:43] MinceR maybe they've built a datacenter in the desert to hold it :> [23:44] schestowitz[TR2] though IU prefer to be judged on texts in the site, not irc [23:44] matey dont be a tinfoil hat, mincer [23:44] MinceR no need for that [23:44] phanes the solution to a smear campaign is to bolt your jaws down on the primary actor [23:44] matey there were never any datacentres, and we have always been at war with eurasia [23:44] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: can I reproduce pls? [23:44] matey on the primary actor <- what if there is no primary actor? [23:44] phanes so let them crazy-make about reptilians [23:44] phanes there always is [23:45] matey maybe [23:45] schestowitz[TR2] I would report typos as I go through it [23:45] matey im not sure this time (but i still suspect it) [23:45] phanes sometimes its a small group of primary actors [23:45] phanes look for NPD behaviours in the primary publisher's circles [23:45] matey well those are all over the place [23:45] matey the whole industry is like that [23:46] matey the water underground microsoft and ibm is probably pink ghostbusters sludge [23:46] phanes there is a high percentage of narcissists yes but at the core of almost all of those is narcissistic injury or opportunistic exploitation, both of which are serial events for the primary actor [23:46] matey holy shit its phanes [23:46] matey i just realise [23:46] *phanes tips his hat [23:46] mjg59_ phanes: Why did you write an entire blog about your ex-fiance and then edit it to replace your name with a fake one? [23:47] britney its not just reptilians, there are also the hive mind super computer made of neanderthal brains [23:47] britney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl8Bk176B_o&t=9s [23:47] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=Gl8Bk176B_o [23:47] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Glen Kealey - Workshop #1 - Invidious [23:47] phanes britney: wut lol [23:47] britney check out the video [23:48] phanes matey: anyway, NPD always self-destructs. I've got some experience with this. I've got one that's self-destructing on me right now and has no idea. [23:48] mjg59_ phanes: Who even is "Jerry Thibodeau"? [23:48] matey yeah we come from similar schools on this [23:48] britney deep underground, in the moho discontinuity, theres a hive mind super computer [23:48] matey different politics, but similar experience [23:48] MinceR [23:49] matey in the moho discontinuity <- first ive heard of this one [23:49] phanes He's in deep, deep over his head with a shallow intellect that's been hyped up by pedigree and association, and he's repeatedly stepping on every rake in sight with abandon. [23:49] phanes I love this part [23:49] mjg59_ phanes: It's especially weird because you left your name in the blog title [23:49] schestowitz[TR2] matey: bon appetite [23:50] britney the reptilians and neanderthals play us like a grand game of chess [23:50] mjg59_ phanes: Guess you just like writing stuff where you use someone else's name? Odd pattern of behaviour tbh [23:50] matey schestowitz[TR2]: wrong autocomplete? [23:50] mjg59_ (People should feel free to /msg me for links) [23:51] matey /me is curious what the worst thing the thought police have on phanes is [23:51] matey note that cancel culture doesnt always get it wrong. even a busted clock is right twice a day [23:51] MinceR depends on what sort of clock and how it's busted :> [23:52] matey if its a sundial and the sun explodes [23:52] MinceR lol [23:52] matey it hardly matters what time it is [23:52] phanes mjg59_: Well whatever you do, definitely don't think you're walking right into blowback. [23:52] mjg59_ phanes: That doesn't seem like an answer to my questions [23:53] phanes mjg59_: I've dealt with "you" in many forms over the years. Your strategy is flawed and you have already been told how to fix your current problem. [23:54] matey phanes: how do we fix the current problem? [23:54] matey oh, his. [23:54] matey ok how does he? [23:54] phanes matey: I will respect his privacy on that. [23:54] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: jriddell left? [23:54] schestowitz[TR2] I thought he had beenn pushed out [23:54] matey that fair, i didnt know it was a privacy thing [23:54] mjg59_ I disclaim all privacy claims here [23:54] mjg59_ He's free to tell you whatever [23:54] DaemonFC Yes, pushed out for criticizing the "Intellectual Property" bullshit. [23:54] matey he wont bite though [23:55] DaemonFC The "community" (Mark Shuttleworth) frowned on that. [23:55] matey and i wasnt asking for details, just overview [23:55] matey but i can see that probably isnt relevant here based on the... exchange [23:55] phanes Oh, he'll bite. People who do stuff like this follow very set patterns and there are only so many options he can choose from. [23:55] matey also sometimes overview sort of says everything [23:56] matey mjg: what is your beef with phanes? [23:56] matey asking you because youre more likely to give overview. but im not counting on it [23:56] matey you were straightforward about what you disliked about rms and assange [23:56] mjg59_ matey: He told me he was going to have his lawyers send me a certified letter and then he never followed through [23:56] phanes matey: he started to defame me, I research his background a little, and found that he's been defaming others for more than a decade. [23:56] matey thanks both [23:56] phanes So now he's getting exposed for it, and he's chewing his teeth out of his head looking for a way to retaliate that won't immediately burn him. [23:57] TR News The Trouble With Ubuntu Snaps, Ubuntu, and Ubuntu Derivatives | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/trouble-with-ubuntu-snaps/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/17/trouble-with-ubuntu-snaps/ [23:57] TR Bot The Trouble With Ubuntu Snaps, Ubuntu, and Ubuntu Derivatives | Techrights [23:57] phanes He severely, severely underestimated my experience and adversarial aptitude. [23:57] mjg59_ Yeah, underestimated your willingness to lie about sending me a certified letter [23:57] schestowitz[TR2] The "community" (Mark Shuttleworth [23:57] britney The Trouble With Ubuntu Snaps, Ubuntu, and Ubuntu Derivatives | Techrights <---- But Roy runs KDE Neon [23:57] schestowitz[TR2] community=M.S. [23:58] schestowitz[TR2] ask SJVN [23:58] schestowitz[TR2] Microsoft is "Linux company" [23:58] matey does kde neon require snaps? [23:58] DaemonFC NEON is an Ubuntu derivative. [23:58] DaemonFC Probably why it has so damned many bugs. [23:58] matey oh, neon is an ubuntu deriv [23:58] schestowitz[TR2] matey: no [23:58] schestowitz[TR2] but it uses some [23:58] schestowitz[TR2] like when I install obs [23:58] DaemonFC Ubuntu just can't quit crackpot patches. [23:58] schestowitz[TR2] my main machine is still debian [23:58] DaemonFC They say they can. But they never do. [23:58] matey i figure it always will be