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[00:14]	activelow	"Replace Services Authentication with Fiat, Decentralized Blockchain Based Authentication"
[00:15]	activelow	doubt any stable implementation of this exists
[00:15]	activelow	nor any "requirements specification"
[00:17]	activelow	even if Andrew wants to implement it, it has to be done right
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[00:23]	activelow	besides? which blockchain should it be? BTC with it's insane fluctuations and excessive transaction fees?
[00:25]	XRevan86	activelow: I think blockchain is just used there for synchronisation of servies.
[00:25]	XRevan86	services
[00:28]	activelow	XRevan86: no idea what this synchronization should be. as i said doubt there is any conclusive specification anywhere.
[00:29]	XRevan86	activelow: Even though Joseon can fit on one server, it's not, it's a network. But even when the servers are networked, the services like NickServ/ChanServ never were.
[00:30]	XRevan86	activelow: So it makes sense to give each server a separate set of services and then synchronise them, and then there's no single point of failure for them.
[00:31]	XRevan86	activelow: One little problem is that even though blockchain can do this, it's shitty for the job :).
[00:31]	activelow	inconclusive
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[00:32]	activelow	IRC, to be precise, is not a network, it is an application layer *service* protocol
[00:33]	XRevan86	(18:11:51) Ariadne: ophion allows you to create irc networks where the services database is distributed
[00:33]	XRevan86	(18:48:18) Ariadne: CrystalMath: although pissnet was a joke, i think it does prove that it is possible to have a loose federation of servers with a distributed account database and channel acl system
[00:33]	XRevan86	(20:43:31) Ariadne: schestowitz: i am considering setting up a loosely federated network based on the ophion technology, if techrights wants to be involved in it :P
[00:33]	XRevan86	activelow: I think what Joseon did is in the same realm as that.
[00:33]	XRevan86	except with blockchain shit
[00:33]	activelow	the distribution of the database is not precisely specified (some replication scheme, fail-over clustering)
[00:34]	activelow	and an IRC service served with a common domain-name(plus aliases) shares a *common* services db (or none such as efnet)
[00:34]	activelow	even if the database is physically separated somehow, the logical view onto it is not distributed
[00:34]	XRevan86	activelow: Yep, but that common services database can be distributed across many instances.
[00:35]	activelow	or some replication scheme, to shard the data and whatnot
[00:35]	XRevan86	Well, it still won't actually be a distributed network, it will actually just be horizontally scaled.
[00:35]	MinceR	afaict "joseon" hasn't done it yet
[00:35]	MinceR	if it ever will
[00:35]	XRevan86	activelow: Yes, exactly.
[00:35]	activelow	as said, it isn't specified to my knowledge, and BTC involved even less
[00:36]	XRevan86	Claims of decentralisation are bullshit in that they are not what people usually mean by that word in a broader sense.
[00:36]	Ariadne	activelow: in ophion, it is.  there is no centralized authority.
[00:41]	activelow	Ariadne: i would need a requirements specification to learn about "no centralized authority"
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[00:44]	Ariadne	each ircd maintains its own copy of the accounts and channel ACL lists, and can modify them as needed.  consensus is implemented using TS6.
[00:44]	Ariadne	(TS6 is an irc consensus and clustering protocol)
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[00:45]	XRevan86	Ariadne: Can't it just use blockchain? Come on.
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[00:45]	Ariadne	for what?
[00:45]	XRevan86	Ariadne: For fiatness.
[00:46]	Ariadne	the consensus method is basically identical to nakamoto consensus (timestamping vs. transactional depth)
[00:46]		*XRevan86 is just kidding.
[00:46]	Ariadne	there is no need to retain old data
[00:46]	XRevan86	There definitely shouldn't be, also for privacy.
● Aug 17
[01:00]	activelow	here's the consensus protocol: rand()%N
[01:01]	activelow	just in case there ever was a conflict, and had there been?
[01:02]	activelow	BTC is rather expensive, to flip a coin to decide.
[01:08]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.30   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 74.55 swarm size (avg): 271.34  
[01:12]	activelow	just for fun i implemented some high-speed crypto-stack, including an RNG which yielded 20GiB/s of randomness on a 10year old workstation
[01:14]	activelow	and, even on a low-power aarch64 SBC it yields 4GiB/s
[01:15]	activelow	the hash design is neat too, it's the fastest and impossible to brute-force if desired
[01:17]	activelow	my implementation of secure-ECB is exceptional too, doubt ANSI will accept this proposal
[01:18]	MinceR	just put every message on the blockchain :>
[01:21]	activelow	btw. nilfs2 filesystem is neat, patched some userspace parts to allow for a sane administrative workflow and prevent accidents with wear-leveling cleaner
[01:22]	activelow	and, i implemented some tiny segment crc verification utility for nilfs2, which is nice to have, before a backup
[01:22]	activelow	i can dump and log a list of all segments and their CRC, and report an error if any
[01:26]	activelow	i cannot prevent all tampering, but i can implement measures to detect them at filesystem layer, among other precautions
[01:26]	activelow	operating system images remain 100% read-only once deployed
[01:27]	activelow	anyway, the recent court case had lectured me something, which is i could dump a pot of shit into court building with the same effect as to explaining what i do
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[02:25]	activelow	meanwhile, seems, someone/something is tampering with IMAP at the side of my mail provider: mutt reported and showed mails in IMAP folders, which disappear remotely
[02:26]	activelow	not the first time
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● Aug 17
[03:09]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.03   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 61.38 swarm size (avg): 271.26  
[03:10]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 Gemini requests since start of month:  121129 total Total pages: 37092    Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 months 8 days ago
[03:10]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated.  TotalIn: 1.9 GB    TotalOut: 445 MB
[03:10]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID 
[03:13]	techrights-ipfs-bot	Qmb89E6YUPLiH43tv6JNBD4QzFumg2nk2gABmYEbbPv2KP
[03:25]	schestowitz-TR	Ariadne: would be good if while we implement that more advanced and innovative IRC stuff I got some in-depth understanding of it
[03:25]	schestowitz-TR	it sounds like something we want to promote in the long run
[03:26]	Ariadne	yes, i intend to write a whitepaper or something about it
[03:26]	schestowitz-TR	cool
[03:29]	schestowitz-TR	by now, we've covered most aspects of gemini and ipfs, for example... and adoption continues to increase
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[03:41]	schestowitz-TR	0/
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[06:07]	psydruid	https://youtu.be/soWaq8ffW1E?t=740
[06:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- -: - YouTube
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[06:08]	schestowitz	www.yewtu.be/watch?v=soWaq8ffW1E&t=740s
[06:10]	schestowitz	systemd :-)
[06:10]	schestowitz	Astra Linux
[06:11]	schestowitz	didn't know it was still going.
[06:12]	schestowitz	interesting video, but I think only XRevan86 can understand it fully
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[06:14]	psydruid	I'm looking forward to XRevan86's dub in English
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[08:50]	techrights-news	 #IRC Proceedings: Monday, August 16, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/irc-log-160821/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/17/irc-log-160821/
[08:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, August 16, 2021 | Techrights
[08:51]	techrights-news	Late Night Linux Episode 138 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-138/ #gnu #linux
[08:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux Episode 138 Late Night Linux
[08:51]	techrights-news	#deepin #gnu #linux 20.2.3 is out https://www.deepin.org/zh/ #china #cn
[08:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.deepin.org | 
[08:51]	techrights-news	"Welcome to the #Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 696 for the week of August 8 14, 2021." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/08/16/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-696/ #gnu #linux
[08:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fridge.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 696
[08:52]	techrights-news	The lack of participation by the media, which conveniently ignores almost every #EPO scandal these days, has enabled a culture or recklessness and a lack of accountability, which generally breeds #corruption http://techrights.org/2021/08/16/captured-nations-video/
[08:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Participates in Cover-Up and Thus Enablement of Rogue Representatives and Mischievous National Delegates Inside the EPO | Techrights
[08:52]	techrights-news	#DestinationLinux 239: Exclusive PineNote Interview Plus Open Source in Education https://destinationlinux.org/episode-239/ #GNU #Linux
[08:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 239: Exclusive PineNote Interview Plus Open Source in Education | Destination Linux - Destination Linux
[08:52]	techrights-news	PhotoGIMP: Make GIMP A Little More Photoshop - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TQOkWg9n1-M #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/17/#latest
[08:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | PhotoGIMP: Make GIMP A Little More Photoshop - Invidious
[08:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[08:53]	techrights-news	"Furthermore, the ThinkPad X1 Nano is Ubuntu Linux certified so you can run many different Linux operating systems (OSes) on the X1 including Ubuntu, Pop!_OS, Debian and a host of other Windows alternatives." https://www.entrepreneur.com/slideshow/380234
[08:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.entrepreneur.com | The Best 13-Inch Laptops of 2021
[08:54]	techrights-news	" #Lorem is a new design app powered by gtk4-rs and libadwaita. It generates tasteful placeholder text for your projects. It use the classic Lorem Ipsum text as the base." https://blogs.gnome.org/msandova/2021/08/16/introducing-lorem/
[08:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Introducing Lorem Maximiliano
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[08:55]	techrights-news	#russia makes its own PCs with #gnu #linux and Russian #hardware https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=soWaq8ffW1E&t=740s
[08:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yewtu.be | -: - Invidious
[08:56]	techrights-news	#Techrights Bulletin for Monday, August 16, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[08:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
[08:56]	techrights-news	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[08:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
[08:56]	techrights-news	[Meme] Skinny Dipping Double-Dippers http://techrights.org/2021/08/16/epo-double-dippers/ #epo #corruption #europe #ceipi #crime
[08:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Skinny Dipping Double-Dippers | Techrights
[08:57]	schestowitz	The #EU cannot tolerate that the judicial power comes under control of the executive in #Poland or #Hungary and at the same time accept that the notion of the rightful judge is trodden on just because it is in the interest of big industry and internationally acting #lawyers firms. This is not the type of European integration I want for my children and grandchildren http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/08/15/german-legislation-for-
[08:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | German legislation for ratification Unified Patent Court Agreement enters into force - Kluwer Patent Blog
[08:57]	schestowitz	ratification-unified-patent-court-agreement-enters-into-force/#comments
[08:57]	techrights-news	"I find it telling that the German ratification occurred on Friday the 13th. If the German had a sense of humour, one could have said that they did it on purpose." #de #germany #corruption #upc http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/08/15/german-legislation-for-ratification-unified-patent-court-agreement-enters-into-force/#comments
[08:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | German legislation for ratification Unified Patent Court Agreement enters into force - Kluwer Patent Blog
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[11:18]	techrights-news	Very disappointing that those who ran "FOSS force" now help shill #microsoft #proprietarySoftware (NOT FOSS) that's an attack on freedom, a fraud (fake financial performance), and hidden layoffs. #azure failed. Stop taking money to push PR for it.
[11:18]	techrights-news	#AntnioCampinos and Mr. #Emruli may have some subject for conversation; Campinos left #CEIPI at the hands of the thug who gave him (and his many friends) jobs with a total worth of several millions of euros per year http://techrights.org/2021/08/16/epo-double-dippers/ #EPO #nepotism
[11:18]	techrights-news	Yuck, disgusting. #linuxhint looks like it has been hijacked by #microsoft as almost everything it pushes this month is #proprietarySoftare of Microsoft, inc. #windows ... corrupted site.
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[11:31]	techrights-news	Best 11 #FreeSW Wiki Engines for teams and enterprise in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154585
[11:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best 11 Open-source Free Wiki Engines for teams and enterprise in 2021 | Tux Machines
[11:31]	techrights-news	Links 17/8/2021: Go 1.17, Git 2.33, Tesseract 5.0 http://techrights.org/2021/08/16/tesseract-5-0/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/16/tesseract-5-0/
[11:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/8/2021: Go 1.17, Git 2.33, Tesseract 5.0 | Techrights
[11:31]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154582 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:32]	techrights-news	#Git v2.33.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154581 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git v2.33.0 | Tux Machines
[11:33]	techrights-news	#GoLang 1.17 is released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154580
[11:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Go 1.17 is released | Tux Machines
[11:34]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154579 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[11:35]	techrights-news	#PostgreSQL Database: #pgAdmin 4 version 5.6 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154578 #db #freesw #TuxMachines
[11:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL Database: pgAdmin 4 version 5.6 and More | Tux Machines
[11:36]	techrights-news	Audiocasts/Shows:# PhotoGIMP , #DestinationLinux , and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154577 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: PhotoGIMP, Destination Linux, and More | Tux Machines
[11:39]	techrights-news	New Videos of #Debian 11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154502#comment-30588 #gnu #linux
[11:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
[11:39]	techrights-news	Andrew Cater: Happy Birthday, Debian! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154563#comment-30587 #debian #gnu #linux
[11:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian celebrates our 28th Anniversary! | Tux Machines
[11:40]	techrights-news	#Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154576 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:43]	techrights-news	Yes you can play #Doom on this #Linux -powered desk phone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154486#comment-30589 #GNU #TuxMachines
[11:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DOOM On A Desk Phone | Tux Machines
[11:43]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154583 #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:44]	techrights-news	4 alternatives to cron in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154584 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 alternatives to cron in Linux | Tux Machines
[11:45]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Rlang #Programming Structuring R projects https://www.r-bloggers.com/2018/08/structuring-r-projects/
[11:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Structuring R projects | R-bloggers
[11:46]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Rlang #Programming #RStudio Voices Julia Silge https://www.r-bloggers.com/2021/08/rstudio-voices-julia-silge/
[11:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RStudio Voices Julia Silge | R-bloggers
[11:47]	techrights-news	 NEWS #SimonAndrews #Standards #DKIM I figured out how #DMARC works, and it almost broke me https://simonandrews.ca/articles/how-to-set-up-spf-dkim-dmarc
[11:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-simonandrews.ca | I figured out how DMARC works, and it almost broke me | Simon Andrews
[11:50]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Wired #Surveillance #Privacy The #NYPD Had a Secret Fund for Surveillance Tools https://www.wired.com/story/nypd-secret-fund-surveillance-tools/
[11:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The NYPD Had a Secret Fund for Surveillance Tools | WIRED
[11:51]	techrights-news	 NEWS #ComputerWorld #Surveillance #Privacy #Apple s botched #CSAM plan shows need for digital rights https://www.computerworld.com/article/3629434/apples-botched-csam-plan-shows-need-for-digital-rights.html
[11:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apples botched CSAM plan shows need for digital rights | Computerworld
[11:52]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy Researcher says he found terrorist watchlist exposed online https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/16/22627630/terrorist-watchlist-no-fly-list-dhs-fbi-research-cybersecurity
[11:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Researcher says he found terrorist watchlist exposed online - The Verge
[11:53]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy #Twitter s decentralized #socialcontrolnetwork project finally has a leader https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/16/22627435/twitter-bluesky-lead-jay-graber-decentralized-social-web
[11:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Twitters decentralized social network project finally has a leader - The Verge
● Aug 17
[12:00]	techrights-news	With Its Handling of the #UnifiedPatentCourt ( #UPC ) Agreement ( #UPCA ), #Germany Shows Its No Better Than Poland or Hungary http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/germany-upc-shame/ #EPO
[12:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Its Handling of the Unified Patent Court (UPC) Agreement (UPCA), Germany Shows Its No Better Than Poland or Hungary | Techrights
[12:11]	techrights-news	In recent years, most ads were wrongly labeled "news" and the #www became a garbage dump while #journalism died rapidly http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/
[12:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights
[12:21]	techrights-news	 NEWS #BBC #Censorship #Uganda anti-pornography law dropped after backlash https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-58235637
[12:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Uganda anti-pornography law dropped after backlash - BBC News
[12:22]	techrights-news	 NEWS #NBC #PressFreedom #WashingtonPost publisher asks #Biden administration to help evacuate journalists https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/washington-post-publisher-asks-biden-administration-help-evacuate-journalists-n1276915
[12:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Washington Post publisher asks Biden administration to help evacuate journalists
[12:30]	techrights-news	iophk: " #cbc providing delay and distraction for bill" https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/prince-andrew-civil-suit-environment-butterflies-titles-1.6140055 see https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
[12:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | What's next for Prince Andrew? | CBC News
[12:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
[12:31]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Tor #torproject New Release: #TorBrowser 11.0a4 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-110a4
[12:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Release: Tor Browser 11.0a4 | Tor Blog
[12:31]	DaemonFC	Journalism has been dead for more than 20 years now.
[12:31]	schestowitz-TR	why 20 years?
[12:31]	schestowitz-TR	9/11?
[12:32]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Tor #torproject New Stable Releases: Tor 0.3.5.16, 0.4.5.10 and 0.4.6.7 https://blog.torproject.org/node/2062
[12:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Stable Releases: Tor 0.3.5.16, 0.4.5.10 and 0.4.6.7 | Tor Blog
[12:32]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, it pretty much started there.
[12:32]	DaemonFC	Before that, I suppose there was a corporate slant to the whole thing, but I don't feel like they were on a mission to lie about everything and I generally felt informed.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	CNN doesn't report negatively on Amazon. Half their site is fake news about how great some Amazon product is, with affiliate links.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	Amazon has become a huge corrupting influence on at least them, and in the government around here.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	They paid the Chicago Park District to put in Amazon lockers.
[12:34]	schestowitz-TR	yes, I mentioned amazon in the above artile
[12:34]	DaemonFC	Including one that went in on a sidewalk, creating a blind corner with only enough room for one person to pass.
[12:34]	schestowitz-TR	it's called affliatwe maarketing
[12:34]	schestowitz-TR	referral share
[12:34]	schestowitz-TR	*affiliate
[12:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Apparently, that particular locker went too far and the Alderman stepped in to do something about it.
[12:35]	DaemonFC	But this is just an encroachment on the public sphere. The government is broke and instead of taxing the rich, they work out corrupt deals like this to fund basic services.
[12:35]		*schestowitz-TR nods
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR	imagine a government that tells corporations what to do.
[12:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Then there's the Blue Origin mess. They didn't tax Bezos and gave Amazon a total giveaway (allowing them almost 15 years where states couldn't even collect sales tax, which made them 7-10% cheaper than anyone else in most markets).
[12:36]	DaemonFC	Now Blue Origin is actually suing NASA demanding a contract, when it wasn't the most affordable bid for a moon lander.
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR	there are more logistical advantages to amazon
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR	e.g. secret but lowered shipping costs
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR	and then can put multiple items in one parcel
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR	so we moved away from competition
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR	it's just sweatshop with monopoly middleman
[12:38]	DaemonFC	By the time the Supreme Court reversed their 1992 decision against sales taxes on out-of-state purchases, which pre-dated the internet, Amazon had leveled most local businesses anyway.
[12:38]	techrights-news	#germany continues to facilitate the abuses or unlawful ambitions of the #EPO s Battistelli and Campinos; if German politicians are OK with the passage of courts to a bunch of gangsters, what does that say about Germany? http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/germany-upc-shame/
[12:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Its Handling of the Unified Patent Court (UPC) Agreement (UPCA), Germany Shows Its No Better Than Poland or Hungary | Techrights
[12:38]	DaemonFC	It was just so cheap to buy stuff there, and although you were supposed to declare it on your state tax return and pay an equivalent use tax at that time, almost everyone lied and declared nothing.
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	maybe one day we will get around more to these issues
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	we had some amazon whistleblowers in the past
[12:39]	schestowitz-TR	but we're not the best forum for those topics
[12:40]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Amazon
[12:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amazon - Techrights
[12:41]	DaemonFC	Every state with a sales tax also has a use tax. For example, if you buy something in Montana, you're supposed to pay Illinois use tax of 6.25% on it when you get back, on your state tax return at the end of the tax year. Why? Montana has no sales tax. Same applies for states with lower tax. Like, if you buy from a state with a 5% tax, you'd pay 1.25% to Illinois.
[12:41]	DaemonFC	In fact, nobody ever does it unless it's something they can't get out of. Like a car, which has to be re-titled in Illinois.
[12:45]	techrights-news	Part 13 of the ongoing series about #epo #corruption will be published around 5PM today, followed by a video about it. The final part will be published tomorrow night. Part 12 is here: http://techrights.org/2021/08/16/captured-epo-delegates/
[12:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part XII: Captured Delegates on the Administrative Council? | Techrights
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: resurgence of feudalism 
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	but many of us are not farmers
[12:46]	schestowitz-TR	or a Ryan Farmer
[12:47]	schestowitz-TR	so we don't call it feudalism and won't use the analogy in the mainstream
[12:47]	schestowitz-TR	the media calls it "job creator", "entrepreneur", philanthropist"...
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	name a billionaire who is NOT a self-described "philanthropist"
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	it's getting ridiculous
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	and the mass media makes no secrets about whose side it's own
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	'pacifying' the looted
[12:48]	schestowitz-TR	"or you are a Communist!"
[12:52]	techrights-news	 NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #Security T-Mobile Investigating Claims of Massive Data Breach https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/08/t-mobile-investigating-claims-of-massive-data-breach/
[12:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | T-Mobile Investigating Claims of Massive Data Breach Krebs on Security
[12:53]	phobos/jn	wait... what? the MSM is claiming that one either kisses the rioters ass or they are communists?
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR	no
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR	opposite
[12:53]	phobos/jn	just making sure
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR	if you speak about inequality
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR	there are those who will accuse you of wanting a bloodbath
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR	or some Bolshevik Revolution
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR	false dichotomies
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR	like Sanders being "lunatic" for wanting to tax the rich just like everybody else is taxed
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR	the term "job creator" is used here
[12:55]	schestowitz-TR	to imply that if you tax the super-rich you will hurt ordinary people
[12:59]	techrights-news	Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154586 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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[13:00]	techrights-news	11 Best Free and Open Source Replacements for du http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154587 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 11 Best Free and Open Source Replacements for du | Tux Machines
[13:01]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154588 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[13:06]	techrights-news	 NEWS #MichaelGeist #Copyright The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 98: Kim Nayyer on the Supreme Court of Canadas Landmark Access Copyright v. York University Copyright Ruling https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2021/08/law-bytes-podcast-episode-98/
[13:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.michaelgeist.ca | The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 98: Kim Nayyer on the Supreme Court of Canada's Landmark Access Copyright v. York University Copyright Ruling - Michael Geist
[13:07]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #AdCenter Affiliate Network Closes Shop After 'Piracy [sic] Scam' Investigation https://torrentfreak.com/adcenter-affiliate-network-closes-shop-after-piracy-scam-investigation-210816/
[13:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AdCenter Affiliate Network Closes Shop After 'Piracy Scam' Investigation * TorrentFreak
[13:08]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Movie Studios Sue #GrandeCommunications : Terminate Pirates [sic], Block The Pirate [sic] Bay https://torrentfreak.com/movie-studios-sue-grande-communications-terminate-pirates-block-the-pirate-bay-210816/
[13:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Movie Studios Sue Grande Communications: Terminate Pirates, Block The Pirate Bay * TorrentFreak
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[13:09]	techrights-news	 NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Raspberry Pi powers weather station in #Nepal https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-powers-weather-station-in-nepal/ does it let Microsoft spy on Nepal? http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/microsoft-spy/
[13:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Raspberry Pi powers weather station in Nepal - Raspberry Pi
[13:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Than a Month Later Raspberry Pi Foundation is a Microsoft Censor | Techrights
[13:10]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Site36 #surveillance #Frontex closes surveillance gaps in the air and in space https://digit.site36.net/2021/08/16/frontex-closes-surveillance-gaps-in-the-air-and-in-space/
[13:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Frontex closes surveillance gaps in the air and in space Matthias Monroy
[13:11]	techrights-news	 NEWS #NewMatilda #wikileaks #au #uk A Day In The Death Of British Justice: John Pilger On Julian #Assange https://newmatilda.com/2021/08/16/a-day-in-the-death-of-british-justice-john-pilger-on-julian-assange/
[13:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newmatilda.com | A Day In The Death Of British Justice: John Pilger On Julian Assange - New Matilda
[13:12]	DaemonFC	What's going on in retail today seems like the railroads before antitrust laws.
[13:12]	DaemonFC	I just don't see any political will to do anything about it. That Amazon locker in the park was just such an eyesore and nuisance that they got involved to that extent.
[13:13]	DaemonFC	The Park District is continuing to say it's for the convenience of people living in the city. How did they ever shop before Amazon started dumping these things haphazardly in the parks?
[13:14]	DaemonFC	Besides, I can't think of a worse place to be seen getting potentially expensive merchandise out of a vending machine than a Chicago park.
[13:14]	DaemonFC	Maybe a New York City park.
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[13:30]	techrights-news	#TMobile Investigating 100 Million Subscriber Data Breach https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210816/06564447367/t-mobile-investigating-100-million-subscriber-data-breach.shtml
[13:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-T-Mobile Investigating 100 Million Subscriber Data Breach | Techdirt
[13:32]	techrights-news	Lots of #gnu and #freesw can make life a lot better https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/three-incredibly-useful-command-line:6
[13:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Three Incredibly Useful Command Line Tools (shuf, sort, uniq)
[13:36]	techrights-news	 NEWS #AralBalkan Key Mapper: a visual tool for remapping keys (and more) on Linux https://ar.al/2021/08/16/key-mapper-a-visual-tool-for-remapping-keys-and-more-on-linux/ I use #xmodmap myself...
[13:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ar.al | Key Mapper: a visual tool for remapping keys (and more) on Linux Aral Balkan
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[14:01]	psydruid	I've made this observation before, but boosters of proprietary software are generally reluctant to tell you exactly what features free software alternatives are lacking
[14:02]	psydruid	instead choosing to keep things vague by saying the free alternatives don't work as smoothly or lack certain magical features
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[15:17]	techrights-news	Loving the ward https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106759395676545332
[15:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "" - Arals Mastodon
[15:18]	techrights-news	40 years with open (de) systems https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=da&u=https://www.version2.dk/blog/40-aar-med-aabnede-systemer-1093107 not #systemd but #ibm dominance
[15:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate
[15:18]	techrights-news	#nsogroup https://neritam.wordpress.com/2021/08/16/digital-evidence-in-the-shadow-of-pegasus/
[15:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Digital Evidence in the Shadow of Pegasus neritam
[15:22]	techrights-news	#debian #gnu #linux praise https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/debian-11-hits-the-mark-with-new:b
[15:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Debian 11 Hits The Mark With New "Bullseye" Release
[15:23]	techrights-news	#vista11 #vapourware ought not distract you from #gnu #linux https://odysee.com/@KeepItTechie:a/if-your-pc-won't-support-windows-11-time:9
[15:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | If Your PC Won't Support Windows 11? | Time to Try Linux
[15:33]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CounterPunch #Assange Setback for Assange in UK Trial Over US Effort to Extradite #Wikileaks Founder https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/08/16/setback-for-assange-in-uk-trial-over-us-effort-to-extradite-wikileaks-founder/
[15:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Setback for Assange in UK Trial Over US Effort to Extradite Wikileaks Founder - CounterPunch.org
[15:35]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt #FB #Facebook Is NOT The Internet; Stop Regulating As If It Was https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210812/14490147348/facebook-is-not-internet-stop-regulating-as-if-it-was.shtml
[15:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Is NOT The Internet; Stop Regulating As If It Was | Techdirt
[15:53]	techrights-news	#proprietarySoftware is junk and using #defamation lawsuits to protect crap is wrong, no matter which "wing" you are on https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210814/13553547359/dominion-sues-newsmax-oan-head-overstockcom-election-related-defamation.shtml
[15:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dominion Sues Newsmax, OAN, And The Head Of Overstock.Com For Election-Related Defamation | Techdirt
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[16:02]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TruthOut #GOP Quietly Deletes Praise for #Trump - #Taliban Deal From RNC Website https://truthout.org/articles/gop-quietly-deletes-praise-for-trump-taliban-deal-from-rnc-website/
[16:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | GOP Quietly Deletes Praise for Trump-Taliban Deal From RNC Website
[16:03]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt #police Nassau County Executive Vetoes Bill That Would Punish People For Making Cops Feel Bad https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210815/12340547364/nassau-county-executive-vetoes-bill-that-would-punish-people-making-cops-feel-bad.shtml
[16:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nassau County Executive Vetoes Bill That Would Punish People For Making Cops Feel Bad | Techdirt
[16:06]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt 4 Dems Pushing Game Companies To Drop Loot Boxes Pointing At #UK Law That Doesn't Mention Loot Boxes https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210812/09235847345/4-dems-pushing-game-companies-to-drop-loot-boxes-pointing-uk-law-that-doesnt-mention-loot-boxes.shtml
[16:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4 Dems Pushing Game Companies To Drop Loot Boxes Pointing At UK Law That Doesn't Mention Loot Boxes | Techdirt
[16:07]	DaemonFC	https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2021/08/17/covid-vaccine-booster-fda/8341629204711/
[16:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reports: Biden administration to recommend COVID-19 booster after 8 months - UPI.com
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	they did not even vaccinate half the population :-)
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	this whole vaccination campaign has been a disaster
[16:08]	DaemonFC	Given what I've been told, the Moderna one doesn't seem to work very well anyway, and it accelerates dementia and causes memory loss even in people without it.
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	the vaccine-hesistant are not shown it's not effective enough and it's like a subscription
[16:09]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: you have Mandy at home and Walmart
[16:09]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it would seem that with the Pfizer one, we'll have to take a booster every year or so now.
[16:09]	schestowitz-TR	so I totally get why you need to hop onboard
[16:09]	DaemonFC	The bigger risk is letting some of those filthy.....
[16:10]	DaemonFC	You know who.
[16:10]	DaemonFC	The ones that come in, unvaccinated, no masks, eat fried chicken from the deli and then lick their fingers, and toss the bucket without paying for it.
[16:10]	DaemonFC	Maybe steal a TV on the way out.
[16:10]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: in "world's lab" 9000 new cases yesterday: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
[16:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Israel COVID: 951,226 Cases and 6,694 Deaths - Worldometer
[16:10]	schestowitz	a country of 8 million people
[16:10]	schestowitz	or 9
[16:10]	schestowitz	20 deaths in a day
[16:11]	schestowitz	doesn't world well for Pfizer CEO
[16:11]	schestowitz	so they stockpiled 30 million doses there, for 9 million people
[16:11]	DaemonFC	I had my car in the shop this morning. Turns out that squeal is a little bit of bearing noise in the alternator.
[16:11]	DaemonFC	It's not a serious problem at this point. Alternator still works okay. I just went ahead with the serpentine belt replacement. The old one was worn to the point of occasional slippage if it got wet. 
[16:12]	DaemonFC	Maintenance beats car payment by yay much.
[16:13]	DaemonFC	I was meaning to get around to the belt back in March with the last oil change, but one of their competitors sent out a really cheap oil change coupon, but is notoriously expensive for all their other work.
[16:13]	DaemonFC	But with winter coming and all that damned slush and snow...
[16:14]	DaemonFC	Need to have a belt with a good firm grip on all of those pulleys.
[16:14]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz> DaemonFC: in "world's lab" 9000 new cases yesterday: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
[16:14]	DaemonFC	Yeah, well, they hit a ceiling on vaccinations too.
[16:15]	DaemonFC	New York City becomes the second to require COVID vaccination proof to do much of anything right after San Francisco.
[16:15]	DaemonFC	We'll see if that shapes the spread of the disease or hospitalizations any.
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	so sf and nyc are also "world's lab"
[16:15]	DaemonFC	It may well help. The news showed a picture of a phone app though, which is unfortunate.
[16:16]	schestowitz-TR	if israel is "world's lab", are palestinians the "controls"?
[16:16]	DaemonFC	People are forging CDC vaccination cards, so states are coming up with "secure" apps that pull your vaccine records right out of their database.
[16:16]	schestowitz-TR	those are rare
[16:17]	schestowitz-TR	even if 1% cheat, it won't be as bad as those who go around recklessly
[16:17]	DaemonFC	Well, mass gatherings without masks are fine in Democrat cities that want the revenue.
[16:17]	schestowitz-TR	including the reckless vaccinated covidiots who arrogantly assume they're now bullenproof and don't post a threat to those around them
[16:17]	schestowitz-TR	*pose
[16:17]	DaemonFC	And superspreader events when they're country music concerts and motorcycle rallies.
[16:18]	DaemonFC	It's only okay if Democrat cities want money.
[16:18]	DaemonFC	Even though, scientifically, this cannot be true.
[16:18]	DaemonFC	People were just being waved through at Lollapolooza without any inspection of their "vaccine cards".
[16:18]	techrights-news	#RaspberryPi 4 gets IEEE1588 Precision Time Protocol (PTP) with Real-Time HAT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154589 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 4 gets IEEE1588 Precision Time Protocol (PTP) with Real-Time HAT | Tux Machines
[16:19]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: like kids?
[16:19]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, masks are only partly effective
[16:19]	schestowitz-TR	they mostly protect others from you
[16:19]	schestowitz-TR	from droplets
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR	many here stopped wearing them
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR	so you need to avoid actual people
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR	and go to very small shops where you might be alone with staff
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR	this can go on for another couple years easily...
[16:23]	techrights-news	As I said an hour ago, before the numbers were even released, worst #covid19 death toll today since winter. UK death toll at 170 for the day. Well done, #borisnaro http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/20/mass-infection/
[16:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Mass infection is not an option: we must do more to protect our young
[16:24]	DaemonFC	Yeah, at the shop this morning, it wasn't really busy.
[16:25]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: choose the time, too
[16:25]	schestowitz-TR	no contact with human, no virus
[16:25]	schestowitz-TR	then you just need to quarantine and wash well everything that comes indoors
[16:25]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21397221
[16:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today was highest #covid19 death toll in the #uk since Match 2nd and it's only SUMMER. Last summer we did a lot better: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/13/covid-19-augusts/
[16:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> schestowitz.com Blog Archive In First Ten Days of August 2021 We Have 7-8 Times More COVID-19 Deaths Than the Same Period Last Year
[16:25]	schestowitz	it's getting harder to avoid it here
[16:26]	schestowitz	they're packing up football stadiums again
[16:26]	schestowitz	like there's no tomorrow
[16:33]	DaemonFC	The government is actually just scared shitless about what people will do if they lose their house so they're bribing them to not riot.
[16:34]	DaemonFC	Unfortunately, they don't want to pay much of anything, so they're foisting the cost of giving them housing (eviction ban) on people who pay.
[16:34]	DaemonFC	And then what they do spend they cause horrible inflation and debt with.
[16:35]	DaemonFC	I don't think it's any coincidence that the US wants out of Afghanistan right now, entirely, completely, and to not speak of it again.
[16:35]	DaemonFC	I would say all it ever did was cost money, except it's so much worse.
[16:35]	Librarian	psymin: interesting article here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3463968/
[16:35]	DaemonFC	$88 billion on their army alone, which walked away and left almost everything for the Taliban to pick up and point at people.
[16:36]	psymin	yep
[16:36]	Librarian	But also some references to other works within it, like the book "Fool Me Twice: Fighting the Assault on Science in America" by Shawn Lawrence Otto.
[16:36]	DaemonFC	Besides, when the riots do start back up again, that's tens of thousands more soldiers they can call up.
[16:36]	Librarian	I'll be downloading that one.
[16:36]	DaemonFC	Eventually, that will be what they resort to.
[16:36]	techrights-news	An #EPO Administrative Council Expos Part XIII: In Good Company http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/emruli-in-good-company/ #europe #corruption
[16:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part XIII: In Good Company | Techrights
[16:37]	DaemonFC	COVID has turned into such a problem that we can't maintain wars (or start new ones).
[16:37]	techrights-news	#Qualcomm s latest drone platform features 5G and seven cameras http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154590 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qualcomms latest drone platform features 5G and seven cameras | Tux Machines
[16:37]	psymin	I'm not sure this is the right channel for this discussion
[16:37]	DaemonFC	Otherwise we'd have been in Iran and Venezuela last year.
[16:37]	DaemonFC	They were drawing up the plans to invade both when COVID struck, so in some ways it's better that it did.
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[16:37]	DaemonFC	Trump had a bunch of US soldiers on the borders with Venezuela, ready to go in at a moment's notice, then they were recalled.
[16:38]	DaemonFC	Remember that? Nobody talks about it now. Few did then.
[16:38]	techrights-news	#AMD RDNA2 Vulkan: RADV vs. RADV+NGGC vs. AMDVLK vs. PRO Driver Benchmarks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154591 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD RDNA2 Vulkan: RADV vs. RADV+NGGC vs. AMDVLK vs. PRO Driver Benchmarks | Tux Machines
[16:48]	techrights-news	Corruption at the #EPO s Governance (or the Administrative Council) is Not Limited to Balkan States http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/epo-ac-part-13-video/ #corruption #europe #eu #patents
[16:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corruption at the EPOs Governance (or the Administrative Council) is Not Limited to Balkan States | Techrights
[16:49]	techrights-news	Has anybody noticed how #redhat CEO hides from the media (for months now)? #ibm
● Aug 17
[17:06]	DaemonFC	I recently read their "statement" about RMS returning being the reason why they'd be boycotting FSF conventions and suspending donations.
[17:06]	DaemonFC	IBM cutting costs and hoping that it damages the FSF at the same time.
[17:06]	DaemonFC	Wrapping it in wokeness.
[17:07]	techrights-news	[Meme] Capturing the Situation http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/capturing-epo/ #epo #europe #patent #patents #corruption
[17:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Capturing the Situation | Techrights
[17:07]	DaemonFC	Red Hat lawyers were increasingly looking for ways to minimally comply with copyleft licenses long before IBM.
[17:08]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.45   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 71.08 swarm size (avg): 270.63  
[17:08]	DaemonFC	Leaving competitors in the dark about what's going on with their "open source" components, they feel, has a long term competitive advantage.
[17:08]	DaemonFC	So Linux becomes more and more like proprietary UNIX.
[17:08]	schestowitz-TR	yes
[17:09]	DaemonFC	In the end, all this really does is weaken them. It boosts Microsoft, who would otherwise just fall that much more behind.
[17:09]	DaemonFC	Helps them shore things up on Windows for a little while longer.
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	that is a side effect
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	IBM and Microsoft have long been in cahoots
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	some ODF advocates threatened to sue IBM
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	like Marbux
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	because IBM and Microsoft sorted out some BACK ROOM deal over OOXML and ODF
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	it's about what benefits those two malicious companies
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	and IBM started defaming ODF proponents
[17:10]	DaemonFC	The attitude towards Microsoft from Red Hat and Canonical has stopped being about competition. They're happy to sell "licenses" to their OS products, and nevermind the fact that running in Azure stuffs them full of horrendous security problems that they cannot fix.
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	who were not controlled by IBM
[17:11]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: yes
[17:12]	DaemonFC	Microsoft blames their customers for the leaks, meanwhile not enough punishment for the companies who operate like this, so they keep doing it.
[17:12]	schestowitz-TR	yeah
[17:12]	DaemonFC	T-Mobile apparently has leaked out 100 million customer files, complete with social security numbers, driver's licenses, and more.
[17:12]	DaemonFC	IMEI numbers for devices, email addresses.
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	they should not have collected such data in the first place
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	people should also be reluctant to give some medical data to clinics
[17:13]	DaemonFC	The data breaches have never been this bad before because centralization and outsourcing to "cloud" servers and stuff have left most companies sharing major vulnerabilities in their networks.
[17:13]	schestowitz-TR	in the name of "HEY HI" and "BIG data" more places now sell this data
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: yes, it's all in one place
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	not contained
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	but regardless,
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	the issue is that the state gets access to all this data
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	breach of no breach
[17:14]	DaemonFC	It's cheap for them and you get to deal with the mess.
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	outsourcing like this is a breach of the law
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	but they've 'normalised' it
[17:16]	DaemonFC	Hmm, the shop seems to have made a billing mistake.
[17:17]	DaemonFC	It says full synthetic like I asked for but they invoiced me for a standard oil change.
[17:17]	DaemonFC	Meh, I've dumped thousands of dollars into fixing this car, most of it with them.
[17:18]	DaemonFC	What I see out on the road, even stuff that's a lot newer than mine, scares the hell out of me.
[17:18]	DaemonFC	People wreck their car, they duct tape the bumper back on (or just drive around with no bumper).
[17:18]	DaemonFC	Burning oil. Squealing like a piggy. Bald tires.
[17:20]	DaemonFC	People are slobs and then they wonder why their wheels fall off or a belt snaps and leaves them stuck in the middle of nowhere even though it was a cheap belt that should have been replaced already.
[17:20]	DaemonFC	I've noticed that this mindset permeates everything now.
[17:20]	DaemonFC	People are just so cheap that they're cheap even when, in the longer term, it costs them 4-5 times as much to be "cheap".
[17:21]	techrights-news	#Manjaro 21.1 Pahvo Released with Linux Kernel 5.13, GNOME 40, and Improved Installer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154592 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 21.1 Pahvo Released with Linux Kernel 5.13, GNOME 40, and Improved Installer | Tux Machines
[17:22]	techrights-news	#SafetEmruli is not the only member of the EPOs Administrative Council who has ended up in trouble over the last decade or so. #epo #europe #macedonia #corruption http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/emruli-in-good-company/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/17/emruli-in-good-company/
[17:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part XIII: In Good Company | Techrights
[17:23]	techrights-news	The #EPO regime of #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos isnt being enabled just by a large number of small countries Corruption at the EPOs Governance http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/epo-ac-part-13-video/ #Techrights #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/17/epo-ac-part-13-video/
[17:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corruption at the EPOs Governance (or the Administrative Council) is Not Limited to Balkan States | Techrights
[17:24]	techrights-news	The asleep-at-the-wheel and blind-to-corruption Administrative Council of the #EPO can only pretend to be surprised about the awful status quo of overt #lawlessness http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/capturing-epo/ #Techrights #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/17/capturing-epo/
[17:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Capturing the Situation | Techrights
[17:25]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Those Indian scammers are getting past the robocall blocks the FCC forced on the carriers.
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[17:25]	DaemonFC	But it's kind of funny, really.
[17:25]	schestowitz-TR	FCC was manned by Pai
[17:25]	DaemonFC	You get a call that says it's a landscaping company in California on the caller ID, but then they're "Social Security" and you'll be arrested if you don't send them money.
[17:26]	DaemonFC	I said, "Well, if you were the real Social Security, you'd know that we do send you money. 13% of our gross pay, in exchange for some disaster that won't even be there in 10 or 20 years. And I don't think you take Starbucks cards.".
[17:26]	DaemonFC	WHo is stupid enough to fall for this?
[17:28]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-investigates/cook-county-property-tax-hikes-hitting-businesses-black-and-latino-homeowners/
[17:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Businesses, Black and Latino homeowners hit hardest after Cook County property tax hike | WGN-TV
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[17:28]	DaemonFC	I replied:
[17:28]	DaemonFC	"Good job. They promised to end racism. Well, there's less racism against minorities after the Democrats shut down all the jobs where they can earn money and then jack up their taxes and rents. Someone has to pay for Preckwinkle and Lightfoot's army of cronies and Health Department and Sheriff's Department jackboots to shut down their employer and force them out of their homes. Even in the ghetto, an efficiency apartment that cost $550 per 
[17:28]	DaemonFC	month when I lived there in 2016 (not that long ago!) is now listed at $950 even though violent crime in the neighborhood has tripled. Have fun with "The end of racism."."
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[17:29]	DaemonFC	The rent nearly doubled and it's not because the neighborhood got better, schestowitz-TR 
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[17:29]	DaemonFC	If they had wiped out the crime and actually fixed that place up, it would be a $950 apartment on its own merit.
[17:30]	AdmFubar	https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malware-campaign-uses-clever-captcha-to-bypass-browser-warning/
[17:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Malware campaign uses clever 'captcha' to bypass browser warning
[17:30]	DaemonFC	It's $950 in the middle of a warzone even though it's dilapidated because of the Democrats causing hyperinflation and high taxes.
[17:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Mom said she donated some food she had stockpiled to a women's shelter. They sent her a receipt with a thank you letter. She said she thought in case she itemized.
[17:32]	DaemonFC	I said, "Well, most people no longer itemize because Trump increased the standard deduction and implemented the SALT cap, but most tax software will tell you what you should do each year. You may have expensive medical bills or something, and in that case, hang onto the receipt. Could be worth itemizing. Unlikely, but possible.".
[17:33]	AdmFubar	https://www.databreaches.net/exclusive-attack-on-hvac-vendor-gave-threat-actor-access-to-boston-childrens-hospital/
[17:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Exclusive: Attack on HVAC vendor gave threat actor access to Boston Childrens Hospital
[17:33]	DaemonFC	Many people who self-file won't know which is better, but software can figure it out in a few minutes.
[17:33]	DaemonFC	Itemizing is also dangerous for other reasons.
[17:34]	DaemonFC	The IRS can't scrutinize or audit based on the standard deduction because everyone could use it, regardless, but if you start itemizing and rattling off things that raise an eyebrow, you could end up drawing unwanted attention.
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[17:35]	DaemonFC	So if itemizing saves you only a few bucks vs using the standard deduction, I'd go with standard because it's less of an audit risk.
[17:35]	techrights-news	Meet 2 ESSENTIAL Linux Gaming Apps - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IpsTHbGNUmU #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/17/#latest
[17:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Meet 2 ESSENTIAL Linux Gaming Apps - Invidious
[17:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[17:37]	techrights-news	"We do also know it will upgrade to #GZDoom 4.6.0 which will break saved games so current owners might want to finish their game or make a backup before the release on August 30." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/fps-adventure-hedon-2-arrives-as-a-free-update-on-august-30
[17:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FPS adventure Hedon 2 arrives as a free update on August 30 | GamingOnLinux
[17:39]	techrights-news	#Proton GE sees another new release pulling in lots of fixes | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/proton-ge-sees-another-new-release-pulling-in-lots-of-fixes #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
[17:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proton GE sees another new release pulling in lots of fixes | GamingOnLinux
[17:43]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, WIth "vaccine hesitancy", I think the CDC and others not even knowing what they're doing helps.
[17:43]	AdmFubar	https://librearts.org/2021/08/week-recap-17-aug-2021/
[17:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-librearts.org | Libre Arts - Weekly-ish recap 17 August 2021
[17:43]	DaemonFC	One week they say no need for boosters, then they say everyone needs one at 8 months.
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[17:44]	AdmFubar	no the boosters are for those who are immune compromised
[17:44]	DaemonFC	Read again.
[17:45]	DaemonFC	Now they say "everyone".
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	true
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: everyone is pushed
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	depends where
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	not just elderly and front liners
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	they just get it earlier
[17:46]	DaemonFC	I'd like to see what they saw that made them change their mind in the span of like 2 days.
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	also, imho, leaping ahead with greek letters can discourage mass vaccination
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	people feel like they're being vaccinated for "yesterday's strains"
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	like buying a car model 2020 in December 2020
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	so it loses market value faster
[17:47]	AdmFubar	so would I... cdc site still says immune compromised
[17:47]	DaemonFC	"Take the village of Ford Heights, one of Cook Countys poorest communities. Total taxes jumped 18% for residents and 42 percent for business, among the highest of any suburb."
[17:47]	DaemonFC	Glad we don't live there. That county is the most screwed up place in Illinois.
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	pfizer is meanwhile RAISING THE PRICE
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	despite mass production efficiencies
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	Biden should take away their patents
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	not just impose/implement patent waivers
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	this greed needs to endl, many people suffer and some die
[17:49]	DaemonFC	https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/ct-lns-schools-open-students-st-0813-20210812-ii7uwudobnb2vm32nkjtfkyxda-story.html
[17:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | Waukegan, Zion students return to school with mix of nervousness, excitement - Chicago Tribune
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	our work-from-home setup never paid off this much... until March 2020
[17:49]	DaemonFC	"If you weren't incentivized enough, we're doing in person school again to get the spread up!"
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	also, choosing not to havbe kids
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	if you have kids, they become a vecot
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	*vector
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	risk to health by reproduction
[17:50]	AdmFubar	the kids or the virus?
[17:50]	AdmFubar	:P
[17:51]	schestowitz-TR	what's the difference? :)
[17:51]	schestowitz-TR	we joke about halloween
[17:51]	DaemonFC	https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-anthony-huber-lawsuit-20210817-wicc5gqlzjdo3plqhpkbocqvvy-story.html
[17:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | Kenosha sheriff, city police gave armed civilians license to wreak havoc and inflict injury during last summers unrest: lawsuit - Chicago Tribune
[17:51]	schestowitz-TR	we plan to leave little bags of candy at the fance
[17:51]	DaemonFC	Wasn't Huber the pedophile that Rittenhouse shot and killed?
[17:51]	schestowitz-TR	some people go into jokes about kicking kids away if they get too close
[17:52]	AdmFubar	spray them with disinfectant
[17:52]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I can see why his attorney is really trying to interject that one.
[17:52]	DaemonFC	Hell, I'd give him a free pass on that even if I did decide to convict on the other charges.
[17:52]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: the parents might not appreciate it
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: qui interjecting off-topic crap
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	it's not a politics and crime channel
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	we have channels for that
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	choose one
[17:53]	DaemonFC	The government rarely does anything about crime between citizens against each other.
[17:53]	DaemonFC	The hammer comes down when it's against the government or a corporation.
[17:54]	techrights-news	#Games: Hedon, Death Trash, Prodeus, Proton GE, Iron Gate, The Fertile Crescent http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154593 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Hedon, Death Trash, Prodeus, Proton GE, Iron Gate, The Fertile Crescent | Tux Machines
[17:55]	AdmFubar	I'll disinfect them too.... I'm an equal opportunity annoyer.......
[17:55]	AdmFubar	:D
[17:56]	techrights-news	#ZorinOS 16 Officially Released with New Pro Edition, Windows 11-Like Desktop Layout http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154594 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 16 Officially Released with New Pro Edition, Windows 11-Like Desktop Layout | Tux Machines
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[18:00]	techrights-news	Caveat: #npm is now controlled by company with #nsa officials, hired from the NSA by #microsoft (it's also #ProprietarySoftware and it is a pool of malware, but that's a separate supply issue) https://linuxhint.com/download-javascript-libraries-packages-npm/
[18:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How to Download JavaScript Libraries/Packages with NPM
[18:03]	techrights-news	#FullCircleWeekly News #223 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-223/ #gnu #linux
[18:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Weekly News #223 | Full Circle Magazine
[18:03]	AdmFubar	https://www.rawstory.com/florida-official-calls-on-desantis-to-declare-state-of-emergency-our-hospitals-and-our-health-care-workers-are-overwhelmed/
[18:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Florida official calls on DeSantis to declare state of emergency: 'Our hospitals and our health care workers are overwhelmed' - Raw Story - Celebrating 17 Years of Independent Journalism
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	wonder why...
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: I assume you're in n america
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	those southern states are places to be proudly ignorant
[18:04]	AdmFubar	SURPRISE!
[18:05]	AdmFubar	florida is where a lot of seniors go to retire.... so thinking it that state isn't very good, overall
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	I have some relatives there... quite a lot actually
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	more than a dozen
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	inc. by grandpa's brother
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	he's about 96 now, iirc
[18:07]	AdmFubar	my mom lived into her 90's
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	it seems not so uncommon
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	my grandpa, wife's grandma
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	the question is, how functional at that age?
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	being demented or vegetable-like isn't of much use
[18:07]	AdmFubar	as long as you have your marbles it is good..
[18:08]	AdmFubar	had an uncle that was in good shape mentally, was getting harder for him to get around though
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[18:10]	techrights-news	Just use a darn keyboard. Far more accurate and thus faster. All this "get work done hands-free" is a pipe dream. https://www.maketecheasier.com/voice-editing-google-documents/
[18:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Use Google Docs Voice Typing to Type Faster - Make Tech Easier
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[18:10]	AdmFubar	https://www.rawstory.com/helmet-boy-capitol-rioter/
[18:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Court hearing devolves into a 'mess' as 'Helmet boy' Capitol rioter rejects plea deal and proclaims himself 'general counsel' - Raw Story - Celebrating 17 Years of Independent Journalism
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR	this is news?
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR	seems like they feed a troll
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR	and a prankster
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR	this is the sort of thing that makes me go "meh" on "the news"
[18:13]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: off the record I can tell you some stories about relatives who made it to their 90s
[18:13]	schestowitz-TR	in respect to the dead I try not to talk about them publicly
[18:14]	AdmFubar	this is the state the the usa is in... and how the thinking of whack jobs that tried to take over the government here.
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	people their age also still devalued privacy... and lives through an age it was possible to protect
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: yes, but they amplify the trolling
[18:15]	AdmFubar	My mom's aunts made it to their mid 90's, one still drove til about 91 or 92...
[18:15]	schestowitz-TR	my gandpa also
[18:15]	schestowitz-TR	and spoke many languages
[18:15]	schestowitz-TR	like the one in FL
[18:15]	schestowitz-TR	even at a senior age
[18:16]	AdmFubar	though at that later time she only drove around the corner from where she lived... grocery store, hairdresser.
[18:17]	techrights-news	Top 9 Features in the Newly Released #ZorinOS 16 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154595 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 9 Features in the Newly Released Zorin OS 16 | Tux Machines
[18:18]	AdmFubar	one of my grandmother's neices is still going at 99.. She needs to get around with a cane and some assistance, but still knows what is going on around her..
[18:20]	schestowitz-TR	great
[18:20]	schestowitz-TR	the kids must love it
[18:20]	schestowitz-TR	alas, if they go "first"...
[18:21]	schestowitz-TR	Imagine being 80 and perishing, worrying about "what mom will feel like if I die..."
[18:21]	AdmFubar	she worked with computers too.. she pull out her phone and look up stuff she is interested in..
[18:21]	schestowitz-TR	I put an uncle of mine on wordpress in 2004
[18:21]	schestowitz-TR	I managed his site
[18:21]	schestowitz-TR	he's still blogging 17 years later, well into his 90s
[18:21]	schestowitz-TR	every day
[18:21]	AdmFubar	nice
[18:21]	AdmFubar	what is his site?
[18:21]	schestowitz-TR	I keep telling him he is one of the oldest bloggers
[18:22]	DaemonFC	A man who represents himself in court has a fool for an attorney. :)
[18:22]	schestowitz_log	http://tobkes.othellomaster.com/
[18:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tobkes.othellomaster.com | Harvey Tobkes
[18:22]	DaemonFC	Of course, sometimes you pay and get that anyway, or some total crook. But you stand almost no chance whatsoever on your own.
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR	othellomaster.com is an old software project of mine
[18:23]	AdmFubar	unless you are a lawyer...
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR	they are overhyped
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR	I met a few
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR	even paid a few
[18:23]	DaemonFC	Even lawyers hire another lawyer many times.
[18:23]	AdmFubar	but that gets back to the total crook part
[18:23]	DaemonFC	They specialize in different areas of the law.
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR	waste of money, but they know the procedures better
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR	and sometimes it looks better if they front for you
[18:23]	DaemonFC	An immigration lawyer may do well with that, but suck if they accuse him of tax evasion.
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR	as the "other site" know it cannot mess around with them as push them around as much
[18:24]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Yeah, that's part of my strategy in traffic court.
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR	*other side" knows
[18:24]	DaemonFC	If Beavis and Butthead show up at all, which they likely won't....
[18:24]	DaemonFC	Here's two idiots who look like they just got out of prison, with their asses hanging out of their pants.
[18:24]	DaemonFC	Meanwhile, I'm in a suit and a tie, and I have an attorney.
[18:25]	DaemonFC	It could be "just enough" to nudge the outcome.
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	they throw "sections" and numbers at you
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	to confuse you
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	the judge might understand
[18:25]	DaemonFC	Either because the judge is unimpressed with the other side or the prosecutor knows you aren't a complete pushover.
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	you do not
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	so they craft complicated laws... helping lawyers push their disservices
[18:25]	DaemonFC	The law that they accuse me of breaking says I had the right to make that turn!
[18:26]	DaemonFC	It says that the people in the other car should have waited to enter the intersection until I was done.
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: BUT WHAT ABOUT SECTION 13.2
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR	and the Bunker Buckey Act of 1971
[18:26]	DaemonFC	Subsection B. Paragraph 4. Clause 8.
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR	What about John v Jane Inc.?
[18:27]	DaemonFC	You're find it under SUAEI.
[18:27]	AdmFubar	laws are made pretty much by lawyers... most elected representatives are  from law background
[18:27]	DaemonFC	Shut Up And Eat It
[18:27]	DaemonFC	*You'll
[18:27]	DaemonFC	It's just horrible going in there.
[18:28]	DaemonFC	"This coupon has only been extended to our most loyal Lou Malnatti's fans!"
[18:28]	DaemonFC	I ate there once, with John, in Chicago.
[18:28]	DaemonFC	4 years ago.
[18:28]	DaemonFC	Man, these restaurants are getting really really desperate. 
[18:29]	DaemonFC	For customers and employees.
[18:29]	DaemonFC	People are getting calls with job offers from an application they put in 5 years ago.
[18:29]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154596 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: same for rianne
[18:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	many emails
[18:30]	AdmFubar	https://www.salon.com/2021/08/13/throw-a-fake-rudy-giuliani-reveals-to-fbi-how-he-used-fox-news-to-push-lies-about-hillary-clinton/
[18:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Throw a fake": Rudy Giuliani reveals to FBI how he used Fox News to push lies about Hillary Clinton | Salon.com
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	for unwanted and risky jobs
[18:31]	DaemonFC	Why would you want to get half as much as your unemployment check so you can go bus tables for a bunch of assholes who barely even tip?
[18:31]	DaemonFC	During COVID.
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR	fake attorney for fake president
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR	remember trump made a deal with talban
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR	that did NOT age well!!
[18:32]	DaemonFC	Yeah, months later, they control the entire country and they didn't need to concede anything to us to get it.
[18:33]	DaemonFC	As for restaurants, I noticed that the food quality is going down, the prices are going up, and there's few staff and they're overworked.
[18:33]	DaemonFC	They slip rebate deals and stuff out there to try to keep customer flow going.
[18:33]	DaemonFC	It makes a good strategy.
[18:33]	DaemonFC	Make a deal just enough effort that some people won't bother.
[18:36]	techrights-news	#SJVN and #ZDNet have become like corporate poodles of "big business" Linux like #swpats #cartels (LOT, OIN) and LF (monopolies), so that site has no actual value anymore...
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[18:36]	DaemonFC	I suppose the ones that had enough cash to ride out last year are doing better. Less competition for the remaining customers.
[18:38]	techrights-news	Michael Larabel is still pushing #microsoft #spam ... link omitted, but it is concerning. http://techrights.org/2021/04/20/phoronix-and-microsoft/
[18:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Phoronix Needs to Exercise Caution and Stay Vigilant/Careful of Microsoft | Techrights
[18:41]	techrights-news	INDIRECT link: "Have fun, It probably will never happen, but I hope the rest of #Microsoft picks up some sane thinking from using *nix." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1274016-microsoft-releases-updated-version-of-its-cbl-mariner-linux-distribution
[18:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Releases Updated Version Of Its CBL-Mariner Linux Distribution - Phoronix Forums
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[18:49]	techrights-news	#systemd enabling #cgroup v2 by default (default-hierarchy=unified) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2021-August/041598.html #ibm and #microsoft taking control over #ubuntu via #github bloatware?
[18:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com | systemd enabling cgroup v2 by default (default-hierarchy=unified)
[18:50]	techrights-news	#Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154597 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:53]	techrights-news	#Ubuntu: #FIPS Certification and Cgroup v2 By Default http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154598 but then #canonical throws #security away: http://techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/
[18:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: FIPS Certification and Cgroup v2 By Default | Tux Machines
[18:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Microsofts Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonicals Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly Its Ubuntus Fault? | Techrights
[18:55]	techrights-news	Linux overview | #Debian 11 "Bullseye" - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oZZ7dpJgdOs #video #invidious
[18:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux overview | Debian 11 "Bullseye" - Invidious
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[19:03]	techrights-news	It's FOSS coverage of Zorin OS 16 Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154594#comment-30592
[19:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 16 Officially Released with New Pro Edition, Windows 11-Like Desktop Layout | Tux Machines
[19:04]	techrights-news	5 of the Best Password Managers for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154599 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 of the Best Password Managers for Linux | Tux Machines
[19:05]	techrights-news	#ZorinOS 16 - Polish that matters - Linux Distro Review - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4MXmeqGVEn4 #video #invidious #gnu #linux
[19:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Zorin OS 16 - Polish that matters - Linux Distro Review - Invidious
[19:08]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.78   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 37.70 swarm size (avg): 270.56  
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[19:09]	techrights-news	#PineNote is an Open Source Linux E-Reader with Pen Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154536#comment-30593
[19:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PineNote is a $399 E-ink Tablet that Runs Linux | Tux Machines
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[19:10]	techrights-news	Videis/Audiocasts/Shows: Zorin OS 16, Debian 11 "Bullseye", Full Circle Weekly, and Late Night Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154600 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videis/Audiocasts/Shows: Zorin OS 16, Debian 11 "Bullseye", Full Circle Weekly, and Late Night Linux | Tux Machines
[19:15]	techrights-news	More fancy job titles with buzzwords and glorified terms https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/automation-architects
[19:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | The rise of the automation architect | Enable Sysadmin
[19:19]	techrights-news	"But more companies #IBM being the latest as reported by Reuters on Friday are requiring workers to be vaccinated before being allowed to return to the office." https://www.wraltechwire.com/2021/08/16/triangle-job-market-may-be-cooling-a-bit-big-job-boards-show-a-decline/
[19:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wraltechwire.com | Triangle job market may be cooling a bit big job boards show a decline | WRAL TechWire
[19:20]	techrights-news	#ibm makes money from mass #vaccination because of the #surveillance that comes with it http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/
[19:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights
[19:23]	techrights-news	#theregister ... what a joke... marketing/marking an anniversary of a MERE VERSION of #microsoft something... Internet Explorer 3.0 http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/
[19:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | Techrights
[19:26]	Librarian	Okay, found the book: Otto, Shawn Lawrence - Fool Me Twice.epub
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[19:42]	techrights-news	#microsoftTim cites #phoronix to make it sound like #gnu programs are defective http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154506#comment-30596
[19:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | grep-3.7 released | Tux Machines
[19:43]	techrights-news	Patrick Volkerding will bring out the oldest #gnu #linux distro very soon http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386
[19:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Slackware Linux Project: Slackware ChangeLogs
[19:44]	techrights-news	#Fedora 35 Cleared For #Golang 1.17, LLVM 13 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-35-Golang-1.17-LLVM-13 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux
[19:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 35 Cleared For Golang 1.17, LLVM 13 - Phoronix
[19:44]	AdmFubar	:) my bloodwork results from this morning are back.... they look much better
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[19:45]	techrights-news	Bug number 1: Racist #ibm is bossing you and using your project to defame the very founder of #gnu #linux based on fabrications and lies https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/exploring-our-bugs-part-1-the-basics/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/03/fedora-f-for-fascism-and-not-freedom/
[19:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Exploring our bugs, part 1: the basics Fedora Community Blog
[19:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fedora Council is Just a Mouthpiece and Instrument of IBM Management, It Doesnt Speak For (What Used to Be) Fedora Project/Community | Techrights
[19:46]	AdmFubar	https://boingboing.net/2021/08/17/the-dea-seized-an-innocent-mans-life-savings-without-charging-him-with-a-crime.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-dea-seized-an-innocent-mans-life-savings-without-charging-him-with-a-crime
[19:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | The DEA seized an innocent man's life savings without charging him with a crime | Boing Boing
[19:46]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154601 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[19:47]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: good (re blood)
[19:47]	schestowitz-TR	bloody blood issues..
[19:48]	techrights-news	"I have been taking care of periodic mass stabilization of #Python packages in #Gentoo for some time already. Per Guilherme Amadios suggestion, Id like to share the workflow I use for this. I think it could be helpful to others dealing with large sets of heterogeneous packages." https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2021/08/16/the-stablereq-workflow-for-python-packages/
[19:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gentoo.org | The stablereq workflow for Python packages Micha Grny
[19:49]	techrights-news	"C++ is highly reliable and also enables low-level memory manipulation for more advanced #programming requirements." https://www.tecmint.com/best-linux-ide-editors-source-code-editors/
[19:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | 27 Best IDE's or Source Code Editors for Linux
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[19:51]	AdmFubar	I'm hoping gets back to relatively normal... the itching was extreme at times.... like buy a cow brush time... 
[19:52]	techrights-news	Swiss and AMD claim record for calculating Pi https://www.fudzilla.com/news/53386-swiss-and-amd-claim-record-for-calculating-pi running #gnu #linux of course...
[19:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fudzilla.com | Swiss and AMD claim record for calculating Pi
[19:53]	techrights-news	"A server with 1TB of RAM was also employed, with #Ubuntu #Linux 20.04 installed on a pair of solid-state disks of unspecified size." https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/17/pi_world_record_challenged/
[19:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Pi calculated to '62.8 trillion digits' with a pair of 32-core AMD Epyc chips, 1TB RAM, 510TB disk space The Register
[19:57]	techrights-news	#Linux on AMD: DisplayPort 2.0 Support for #AMD #Graphic and Record Epyc Workload http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154602
[19:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux on AMD: DisplayPort 2.0 Support for AMD Graphic and Record Epyc Workload | Tux Machines
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[20:00]	techrights-news	"Getting back into the swing of things at #Mozilla after my extended break. Im currently working on enhancing and extending Looker support for Glean-based applications, which eventually led me back to working on bigquery-etl, our framework for creating derived datasets in our data lake, which we then expose in Looker." https://wrla.ch/blog/2021/08/python-dependency-gotchas-always-go-to-the-source/
[20:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wrla.ch | Python dependency gotchas: always go to the source
[20:00]	techrights-news	#Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154603 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:17]	techrights-news	Links 17/8/2021: Zorin OS 16 Release, TikTok in OIN http://techrights.org/2021/08/17/zorin-os-16/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/17/zorin-os-16/
[20:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/8/2021: Zorin OS 16 Release, TikTok in OIN | Techrights
[20:17]	AdmFubar	https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/17/texas-coronavirus-covid-cases-mortuary-trucks
[20:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Texas officials ask US government for mortuary trucks as Covid cases rise | Texas | The Guardian
[20:18]	techrights-news	#Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154604
[20:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:18]	techrights-news	Internet: Mozilla, Tor, and DMARC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154605
[20:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Internet: Mozilla, Tor, and DMARC | Tux Machines
[20:18]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: southern states
[20:18]	schestowitz-TR	they think this is politics
[20:18]	schestowitz-TR	and that covid is a "democratix hoax"
[20:18]	schestowitz-TR	says fox (early 2020)
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	"impeachment hoax"
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	this summer might turn out to be more deadly than last summer
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	150k new cases a day
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	people not wearing masks
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	as if marks as a symbol of support for biden
[20:19]	schestowitz-TR	*masks
[20:19]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154606 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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[20:26]	AdmFubar	texas where they had the brilliant idea of deregulating the electric grid...
[20:38]	AdmFubar	one thing covid does well... it cures stupid!
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[21:13]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/16/wipo_settles_dispute_with_cio/
[21:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | World Intellectual Property Office settles dispute with CIO it previously ousted for 'criminal misconduct' The Register
[21:23]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210811/08252047340/why-companies-keep-folding-to-copyright-pressure-even-if-they-shouldnt.shtml
[21:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Companies Keep Folding to Copyright Pressure, Even If They Shouldn't | Techdirt
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[22:27]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/08/iphone-keyboard-for-blind-to-shut-down-as-maker-cites-apple-abuse-of-developers/
[22:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | iPhone keyboard for blind to shut down as maker cites Apple abuse of developers | Ars Technica
[22:39]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/t-mobile-has-been-hacked-yet-again-but-still-doesnt-know-what-was-taken/
[22:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | T-Mobile has been hacked yet againbut still doesnt know what was taken | Ars Technica
[22:40]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/hospitals-hamstrung-by-ransomware-are-turning-away-patients/
[22:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Hospitals hamstrung by ransomware are turning away patients | Ars Technica
[22:42]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1787043
[22:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Apple defends iPhone photo scanning, calls it an advancement in privacy | Ars Technica
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[22:54]	activelow	continued thinking about Bitcoin agin
[22:55]	DaemonFC	For some reason, Biden felt compelled to spend the entire summer making ridiculous claims that the Afghan military would hold on, even though that surely wouldn't be the case.
[22:55]	activelow	and, stumbled upon this when reading about NILFS2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%93Oxley_Act
[22:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | SarbanesOxley Act - Wikipedia
[22:55]	DaemonFC	And then the State Department waited until 1 day before Kabul fell to tell Americans to get out, and many couldn't, so as it fell they said shelter in place.
[22:55]	activelow	"was enacted as a reaction to a number of major corporate and accounting scandals"
[22:55]	DaemonFC	This is not going to go over well for the Democrats in 2024.
[22:56]	activelow	this is interesting, because whenever finance and technology are discussed, instantly "crypto" and related are mentioned, and "Log structured filesystems" are not
[22:56]	activelow	in fact, log structured filesystems are rarely implemented, although available since 1980s, and have huge benefits regardless of sox-compliant logging capabilities
[22:57]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, We went to the supermarket over on Lewis Avenue and they seem to have almost doubled the price of a lot of things.
[22:57]	DaemonFC	They went to the snacks and drinks aisle and did a price change from $1.99 to $2.99. Produce is up almost 50%.
[22:58]	DaemonFC	It's much more extreme than what's happening at Walmart and Aldi.
[22:58]	DaemonFC	Probably because it caters to foreigners who are there to get specialty items and they know they will pay it. Also, not huge enough to demand suppliers keep a lid on inflation.
[22:59]	DaemonFC	<activelow> and, stumbled upon this when reading about NILFS2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%93Oxley_Act
[22:59]	DaemonFC	Yeah, the reaction to the corporate accounting scandals of the early 2000s, such as Enron.
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[23:00]	activelow	yes, and nowadays bitcoing/crypto.
[23:00]	DaemonFC	It mostly creates compliance costs with government regs. Hasn't stopped book cooking at Microsoft and just outright ponzi schemes like Uber.
[23:00]	AdmFubar	and everyone says use two factor authentication
[23:00]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1749991
[23:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | $16 attack shows how easy carriers make it to intercept text messages | Ars Technica
[23:00]	activelow	meanwhile "log structured filesystems" are rarely mentioned or implemented, although available since 1980s
[23:00]	DaemonFC	NILFS was mainly the work of a Japanese phone company, iirc.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	They also had a lot of MPEG patents.
[23:01]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1749913
[23:01]	DaemonFC	NTT
[23:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | TikTok wants to keep tracking iPhone users with state-backed workaround | Ars Technica
[23:01]	DaemonFC	They didn't have any on MP3, but they did have them on MPEG Audio Layer 2 (MP2).
[23:02]	DaemonFC	But they didn't enforce it aggressively, nor did the others, which made it de facto unrestricted.
[23:02]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1749815
[23:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Please someone help me. FaceTime users bombarded with group call spam | Ars Technica
[23:02]	DaemonFC	For a while, it looked like there would be projects to make the best MP2 codec possible and that they might catch on.
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Just because FhG was being so aggressive about Layer 3.
[23:03]	AdmFubar	some of these links are from a while ago
[23:03]	DaemonFC	Apparently, MPEG-LA must have had something on the AOM stuff.
[23:04]	DaemonFC	They worked out a patent licensing scheme for AV1 in the end that makes conforming implementations free to use.
[23:04]	activelow	sorry, tried to pick a silent moment to briefly propose "log structured filesystem" being discussed
[23:05]	activelow	and how these are related to blockchain
[23:05]	AdmFubar	https://boingboing.net/2021/08/17/billionaire-boys-space-race-blasts-into-court.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=billionaire-boys-space-race-blasts-into-court
[23:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Billionaire boys space race blasts into court | Boing Boing
[23:05]	AdmFubar	Court: the final frontier. These are the  Voyages of Blue Origins' New Shepard. A multi-fiscal period investment  to take daddy into low earth orbit, speed package delivery to the ISS,  and to boldly sue any mother-fucker that gets in his way. Also to write  off taxes.
[23:06]	activelow	since, the industry rarely implements this filesystem, and these are used even less, although their benefits are enormous, even without sox-compliant accounting requirements
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[23:08]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 33.53   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 47.70 swarm size (avg): 270.44  
[23:09]	activelow	their benefits are: simplicity, data integrity, natural wear-leveling, snapshots, protection against data-loss (errornous deletion), backup and archival strategy
[23:09]	activelow	by a simple design choice at the filesystem layer, without requiring any addition logical volume management or extensions
[23:09]	activelow	al
[23:11]	activelow	and NILFS2 is GPL, nonetheless it is rarely mentioned
[23:12]	activelow	sure, other filesystems or lvm too can provide snapshots, but none of them are log structured filesystems with their inherent benefits
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[23:18]	activelow	NILFS2 can implement sox-compliant logging even, which now raises more questions, with finance and their blockchain
[23:22]	activelow	since, what's synced and written to disk on nilfs2 cannot easily be tampered with anymore (assuming garbage collection as an administrative act is disabled and integrated into an archiving strategy)
[23:23]	activelow	which is why, i patched nilfs2 user-space utilities, to prevent garbage collection kicking in accidentally
[23:24]	activelow	and then, data cannot be tampered with or deleted, without noticing. protected by CRC on all data and metadata
[23:25]	activelow	this does not replace cryptographic security of cause (git, blockchain or similar), but it is *very* effective and very *simple* to prevent tampering at filesystem layer already
[23:27]	activelow	then, i have implemented a tiny utility, which dumps all segment numbers and their CRC, which can be archived elsewhere easily, it's a small list of a few KiB or MiB of data, and can easily be processed if any segment was defective of tampered with, later
[23:29]	activelow	the only "disadvantage" this has is CRC calculation and storage for all segment data and metadata at filesystem layer implies a tiny overhead
[23:29]	activelow	so, why are "log structured filesystems" not the de-facto standard?
[23:33]	activelow	one answer is this, the idea of LFS is to disable *automatic* garbage collection entirely to begin with, to avoid fragmentation and fully benefit from snapshot, data integrity and all the other blessings
[23:34]	activelow	and, another answer is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%93Oxley_Act
[23:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | SarbanesOxley Act - Wikipedia
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[23:48]	techrights-news	#GNU is 38; it's unfair to pretend distros are just a #kernel https://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/87239.html
[23:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ecommercetimes.com | 30 Years of Linux History Told via Distros | Tech Blog | E-Commerce Times
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[23:53]	techrights-news	A privacy review of Tribler, the onion-routed BitTorrent app http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154607 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A privacy review of Tribler, the onion-routed BitTorrent app | Tux Machines
[23:53]	XRevan86	Ariadne: https://twitter.com/ariadneconill/status/1427511184635441178 yep, and even just the second part about the counting is enough to make a huge difference.
[23:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ariadneconill: they don't want it. the democrats and the republicans would no longer control anything, because parties and indepe https://t.co/AKqng7krvQ
[23:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ariadneconill: they don't want it. the democrats and the republicans would no longer control anything, because parties and indepe https://t.co/AKqng7krvQ
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[23:57]	techrights-news	#ZorinOS 16 Review: Its a Visual Masterpiece - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=m_PmLG7HqbQ #video #invidious #gnu #linux
[23:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Zorin OS 16 Review: It's a Visual Masterpiece - Invidious