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Rabid_RavenSo, why is Microsoft today?Oct 18 00:36
Rabid_RavenerrOct 18 00:36
Rabid_Ravenwhy is it evil?Oct 18 00:36
schestowitz_log"Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone."WOWThis will happen more and more as the Earth COOLS DOWN. Grand Solar Minimum is a bitch on the way to 90,000 years of Winter!https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15896018#4e209c60b0fb0137adac52540039b762https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15490865#04a9f3a08e1101379a2e0cc47a07853chttps://joindiaspora.cOct 18 00:47
schestowitz_logom/posts/16173044#93819de0cc3f0137495000163e3b85e3they try to discourage> you know i do go back and read it and make adjustments, and i even use a spellchecker.Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_log> Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_log> so dont ask me how "plumbling" got in there. im reading it again now. one always seems to get through somehow, and im always grateful when you fix it.Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_log> Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_log> i didnt intend to write the precise article you requested, and i dont think i managed to. however, i set out to write quite a different article than this one, and this is the one that came out of it. i think it does cover a bit of what you wanted, actually. cheers.Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_logI noticed and fixed the above typo  on my own :-)Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_loghmmm(it's I can cliapparsss>>> I'm not sure if ACLU links read properly this time.Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_log>> My bigger concern is commondreams breaking their own RSS feeds;Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_log>> they've done this for years! Their loss, I guess...Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_log> I just wrote them.Oct 18 00:47
schestowitz_logI am not a huge fan of their feed anyway. I could probably rank the ones we have; they're be in the bottom half. They're a little 'too' liberal for me...howhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16005101#c443a55c-185d-a821-843d-0a7980961017AndOct 18 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trying to put #vista10 malware on #raspi (why?) https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/raspberry-pi-operating-systems-not-linux/Oct 18 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.makeuseof.com | 9 Raspberry Pi Operating Systems That Aren't LinuxOct 18 00:48
schestowitzbecause?Oct 18 00:48
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schestowitzRabid_Raven: hiOct 18 01:30
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schestowitz> He’s *still* trying to recover. He thinks fines fix monopolies. It’sOct 18 07:32
schestowitz> kind of obvious that he hasn’t researched the whole anti-trust thingOct 18 07:32
schestowitz> before this. Hilarious.Oct 18 07:32
schestowitz> https://twitter.com/richturn_ms/status/1184862879700250629?s=20Oct 18 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@richturn_ms: @stautistic Others have been more heavily fined of late: https://t.co/Vfn6kJFEdFOct 18 07:32
schestowitzmicrosoft defense: it's OK to break the law if you pay finesOct 18 07:32
schestowitzFallback: OH! LOOK OVER THERE! A different company!  Oct 18 07:32
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schestowitz> There's some good news buried in all the links, too though.  I'll try toOct 18 07:40
schestowitz> focus on those for tomorrow.Oct 18 07:40
schestowitzGood news is nice, but tbh I think reporting ought to focus on what needs correcting. There's always something...Oct 18 07:40
schestowitzWe also fight against this massive thing called "the PR industry"...Oct 18 07:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MSServices_info/status/1184861765005447170Oct 18 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MSServices_info: @Sheikh_al_Touar What has become of you, EPO? Staff was once proud to work for, it feels like ages ago. Since then,… https://t.co/lgguBJwoWsOct 18 08:00
schestowitz"What has become of you, EPO? Staff was once proud to work for, it feels like ages ago. Since then, it seems that #Fear and #oppression have become the norm rather than the exception. #patents #Europe #workplace #society #democracy #Germany #Netherlands #Austria #ruleOfLaw"Oct 18 08:00
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MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/14/1c0a94b2409592d4.jpgOct 18 08:06
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MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/27/6c8fa925341ec807.jpgOct 18 08:53
schestowitzniceOct 18 08:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrucePerens/status/1174857175153295360Oct 18 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrucePerens: @_msw_ @vmbrasseur @webmink @jm_stuff As it happens RMS shot his own foot, and no tears from me about him leaving. But 2 decades later.Oct 18 09:10
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vs9MXEtydcOct 18 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Moist Definitely... (Letterkenny) - YouTubeOct 18 09:16
schestowitzRe: Boston - next week> Hi Roy, Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> I'll be in Boston next week until early Nov. Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Richard already said he'd be glad to meet, but we are circling back to the arrangements on the 22nd. Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> The purpose of the trip is xxxx invited me to speak at Yale about DMCA/copyright etc. Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> However, since the timing is "decent", I want to catch up with RMS.Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Earlier this year, during xxxx's presentation at LibrePlanet, RMS did mention something about promoting Free Software philosophies to maker spaces. Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> I think I'm good fit for that effort!Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Also, Avni from Kids on Computers is also in Boston. Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> One concern is Stormy Peters is now at Microsoft or left Red Hat for MS.Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Since she heads the xxx effort, I want to get assurance from xxxx (the organizer) that the computers will still have Linux.Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Going a step into promoting free software, I want to see if we (the community) can provide an image that is completely free software while maintaining quality apps and environment we now provide to the students. Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> As I have discussed last year with xxxx at Gutenberg, the open science guy, and Steve from open street, the content boxes provided by Internet in a box (IIAB) censor! The difference between content curation and censorship is clear here. I tried to discuss with xxx at IIAB the importance of the Gutenberg selections to no avail. Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> So, another step forward is to provide "banned" or "censored" content replacing those censors at IIAB.Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> I'll send you an update when I get to or get back from Boston.Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz> Thanks, Oct 18 09:20
schestowitzThanks for the headsup. I will add that to my notes.Oct 18 09:20
schestowitz#StormyPeters is now at #Microsoft  and that causes problems on multiple fronts. #techrights called Peters out as a threat/danger more than a decade ago. Same bunch as de Icaza of #mono and Friedman who's now using #proprietarysoftware GitHub to attack FOSS as a whole.Oct 18 09:22
schestowitz(in IRC only)Oct 18 09:22
schestowitzfor nowOct 18 09:22
schestowitzsome names removedOct 18 09:22
zoobabFosdem is using Github for the devrooms, they ask for a Pull Request to submit the CFPs, I will refuse in a short letterOct 18 09:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16272393Oct 18 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fosdem has been 'outsourced' to #microsoft #github WHO is responsible for this abomination??Oct 18 09:28
schestowitzmaybe they think it's 'nroaml' nowOct 18 09:28
zoobabBTW the last article about Redhat should have a linkOct 18 09:28
schestowitzzoobab: did MS pay FOSDEM this year?Oct 18 09:28
schestowitzzoobab: it doesn'tOct 18 09:28
schestowitzbut not my articleOct 18 09:29
schestowitzsee the meme posted after tgarOct 18 09:29
schestowitz*thatOct 18 09:29
zoobab"Yes, that’s already happening. On 4 Oct 2019 Joshua Allen Holm (Community Moderator), Mike Bursell (Red Hat, Community Moderator), Lauren Pritchett (Red Hat) and Don Watkins (Community Moderator) wrote an article. In that article they rebranded a lot of Free software as theirs. The worst thing in their list was some software called emacs — the first true Free software that appeared on this planet aOct 18 09:29
zoobabnd was written by the same Richard Stallman."Oct 18 09:29
schestowitzhttps://t.co/7XCdgg83UeOct 18 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EmacsConf Without Richard Stallman | TechrightsOct 18 09:30
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schestowitzI'm doing an RMS articleOct 18 09:45
schestowitzbased on new infoOct 18 09:45
schestowitzzoobab: can you chase more info on fosdem?Oct 18 09:46
schestowitzwe need to put pressure on them to drop this idiotic planOct 18 09:46
schestowitzor let them face the consequences for bad decisionsOct 18 09:46
zoobabDaniele also resigned from the FOSDEM core team over their refusal to take money from the big guysOct 18 09:50
zoobabbut don't quote me on this, better ask him for an interviewOct 18 09:50
zoobabright now the sponsors page is pretty empty:Oct 18 09:51
zoobabhttps://fosdem.org/2020/about/sponsors/Oct 18 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosdem.org | FOSDEM 2020 - SponsorsOct 18 09:51
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MinceRlol @ ratcrap pulling a microsoftOct 18 14:37
MinceR"what's ours is ours and what's yours is ours"Oct 18 14:38
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/twiteeyapa/status/1185110803214721024Oct 18 15:21
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MinceRhttp://existentialcomics.com/comic/280Oct 18 15:44
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DFSrealDFSOct 18 16:17
DFSIs Roy Spamowitz here?Oct 18 16:17
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Guest23387Is Roy Spamowitz here?Oct 18 16:17
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schestowitztrollOct 18 16:18
schestowitzfrom COLA/USENETOct 18 16:18
schestowitz"DFS"Oct 18 16:19
schestowitzMicrosoft trollOct 18 16:19
schestowitzKnown Microsoft trolls now coming to #techrights IRC channels. So we must have done something right. #microsoft #astroturfing #trolls Oct 18 16:20
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schestowitzGoing back to "mother ship" for instructionsOct 18 16:20
schestowitzhaving been ignored by allOct 18 16:21
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samiamsamschestowitz: will you explain what is going on in that Bruce Perens thread about Salil Deshpande?Oct 18 17:02
samiamsamwould you, i meanOct 18 17:02
schestowitzlink?Oct 18 17:02
samiamsam04:10 <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/BrucePerens/status/1174857175153295360Oct 18 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrucePerens: @_msw_ @vmbrasseur @webmink @jm_stuff As it happens RMS shot his own foot, and no tears from me about him leaving. But 2 decades later.Oct 18 17:03
schestowitzI don't know who Salil Deshpand isOct 18 17:03
schestowitzI was, however, warned about vmbrasseurOct 18 17:03
schestowitzJuniperOct 18 17:03
schestowitzMS management, formerOct 18 17:03
schestowitzopenwashers, NSA collaboratorsOct 18 17:03
schestowitzwebmink has been more dodgy since MSFT dumped cash on OSI, where he's pres.Oct 18 17:04
samiamsamSalil Deshpande apparently works for bain capital as a managerOct 18 17:04
samiamsamunless there are multiple of themOct 18 17:04
schestowitzI don't know those other 2 usernames in twitter, maybe I know the people, but it looks like a bad crowdOct 18 17:04
samiamsamlooks like some tech vc investorOct 18 17:04
schestowitzI heard of Bain in relation to s/w recentlyOct 18 17:05
samiamsam Salil DeshpandeOct 18 17:05
samiamsamManaging Director at @Bain Capital Ventures ; Investor in @MuleSoft @SpringSource @Dynatrace @Buddy Media @Lending Club @Datastax @Redis Labs, 20+ more.Oct 18 17:05
schestowitzI forgot the context, it might matterOct 18 17:05
samiamsamredis labs.  ya.  investor in "open source"Oct 18 17:05
schestowitzmaybe something about dockerOct 18 17:05
schestowitz(Romney connections)Oct 18 17:05
samiamsamMuleSoft, LLC. is a software company headquartered in San Francisco, California, that provides integration software for connecting applications, data and devices. Started in 2006, the company's Anypoint Platform of integration products is designed to integrate software as a service (SaaS)Oct 18 17:05
schestowitzlet me checkOct 18 17:05
samiamsamOn May 2, 2018, Salesforce acquired Mulesoft for $6.5 billionOct 18 17:06
schestowitzI did not noticeOct 18 17:06
schestowitzit was run by Asay's friendOct 18 17:06
schestowitzRosenbergOct 18 17:06
schestowitzthey did blogging in idg's infoworld back in the old daysOct 18 17:07
schestowitznow asay is in amazonOct 18 17:07
schestowitzthey did a postcast together as well, with anti-Linux people at timesOct 18 17:07
schestowitzthat's why I said it's a toxic crowdOct 18 17:07
schestowitzyou can look at vmbrasseur in techrights articles/archivesOct 18 17:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mysuYin/status/1185224080938680320Oct 18 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mysuYin: @StartPage_DACH wie ist dieser Artikel zu deuten? https://t.co/kx6xPS5G1VOct 18 17:08
schestowitzhere is what i had in mind:Oct 18 17:08
samiamsamactually though this is what i am really curious aboutOct 18 17:08
samiamsamhttps://twitter.com/BrucePerens/status/1174854401535537152Oct 18 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrucePerens: @_msw_ @vmbrasseur @webmink @jm_stuff ESR and Tim O'Reilly concocted a mission to deprecate RMS. I didn't ever approve.Oct 18 17:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1178317688684339202Oct 18 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #FOSSA being funded by Bain Capital Ventures (yes, >that< Bain) says a lot about likely FOSSA agenda. Like… https://t.co/3P7HAYPFGaOct 18 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #FOSSA being funded by Bain Capital Ventures (yes, >that< Bain) says a lot about likely FOSSA agenda. Like… https://t.co/3P7HAYPFGaOct 18 17:08
schestowitz"#FOSSA being funded by Bain Capital Ventures (yes, >that< Bain) says a lot about likely FOSSA agenda. Like #microsoft and #goldmansachs being sponsors of anti-FOSS parasites like #snyk"Oct 18 17:08
schestowitzThey sponsor anti-FOSS FUD firmsOct 18 17:08
schestowitzso watch out, you know they're not into FOSS but controlling FOSSOct 18 17:09
samiamsamis perens saying that 'open source' was created to get rid of rmsOct 18 17:09
schestowitzalso explore their connections to Mitt RomneyOct 18 17:09
samiamsamor is he referring to something more concreteOct 18 17:09
schestowitzthey exist to destroy firmsOct 18 17:09
schestowitzsee Tim O'Reilly articles in techrightsOct 18 17:10
schestowitzor just O'ReillyOct 18 17:10
schestowitzTim O'Reilly commented in techrights several times beforeOct 18 17:11
schestowitzis anyone should be '"canceled", it's the likes of himOct 18 17:11
schestowitz"business" hawksOct 18 17:11
samiamsamindeedOct 18 17:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/908271204930387968Oct 18 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Apple Discussing $3 Billion Stake in Bain’s #Toshiba Bid https://t.co/DOyTYq63Ty #romney connections.Oct 18 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Oct 18 17:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/274129086643855360Oct 18 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Meet the Man Who Has Been Battling #Romney and Bain’s Bankruptcy #Fraud for 12 Years http://t.co/HtN8paJB #bainOct 18 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> ur1.ca | NO TITLEOct 18 17:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/262853133041037312Oct 18 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Bain-Owned Sensata Illegally Threatens Workers for Organizing http://t.co/i1XpP5r1 that's #romney fot you...Oct 18 17:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/260917076397522945Oct 18 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "(Notice how the liberals (Gates) and the conservatives (Walton) & the financiers (Bain) collude in these things)." http://t.co/HJ7XBHrsOct 18 17:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/228285011323932674Oct 18 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 502 @ http://ur1.ca/aml3h )Oct 18 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Goldman Sachs, Bain Seek Dismissal of Bid-Rigging Lawsuit http://t.co/a389XihK #GoldmanSachs #usOct 18 17:14
MinceRhttps://hugelol.com/lol/633051Oct 18 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> ur1.ca | NO TITLEOct 18 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | Taped to a 14000 liter tank of liquid sodium.Oct 18 17:14
schestowitzhttps://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/10/is-the-software-world-taking-too-much-from-the-open-source-community/Oct 18 17:15
schestowitzArse PedoOct 18 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | In 2019, multiple open source companies changed course—is it the right move? | Ars TechnicaOct 18 17:15
schestowitzthis is the trendOct 18 17:15
schestowitzgo proprietaryOct 18 17:16
schestowitzcall it "open"Oct 18 17:16
samiamsamyaOct 18 17:19
samiamsami just came across a non-software educational resource that had 'open' all over its self-descriptionsOct 18 17:20
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samiamsami immediately suspected BS, and confirmed it.  it's got some cost-free material and then 'premium' material, of course it's all proprietary.  but they want to play like they're wikipediaOct 18 17:21
samiamsampresent themselves like they areOct 18 17:21
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schestowitzsamiamsam: wikipedia does not say muchOct 18 17:52
schestowitzif you consider who 'gardens' itOct 18 17:52
schestowitzor what forOct 18 17:52
schestowitzafuf: FOR IMMEDIATE PUBLICATION:Oct 18 17:59
schestowitz(I really hope Jagadees likes this one)Oct 18 17:59
schestowitzShould Anybody Dictate the Free Software Movement?Oct 18 17:59
schestowitzBy figosdevOct 18 17:59
schestowitzworking on it...Oct 18 17:59
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schestowitz> This emacs event coming up at the FSF is about Red Hat trying to take it over, right? It's almost worth calling for a boycott of the event.Oct 18 18:12
schestowitz(quote)Oct 18 18:12
schestowitzfrom BostonOct 18 18:13
schestowitzMaybe someone should go there just to make a little scene, maybe on recordOct 18 18:13
MinceR"HOW DARE YOU!"Oct 18 18:13
schestowitz"oh u!"Oct 18 18:14
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*psydroid (re)installed the unholy combination of Something 10 and RHEL 8 on his laptop yesterday, neither of which he usually usesOct 18 20:40
cubexyzI have an answer for why M$ = evilOct 18 21:28
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txtOct 18 21:28
cubexyzsome of it is pre-Microsoft, e.g. U of Washington kicks out Gates and Allen for computer misuseOct 18 21:29
cubexyzwin10 itself is pretty awful if you need a new reasonOct 18 21:30
cubexyzhardware bound registry, authentication nonsense, licensing... what else... oh yeah non-support of older versions, etc, etc, etcOct 18 21:32
cubexyzgenuine advantage had to be the biggest crock of shit everOct 18 21:33
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC8QoRa8y_QOct 18 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Is What a "Second-Person" Video Game Would Look Like - YouTubeOct 18 21:34
XRevan86Why does "eksetera" annoy me?Oct 18 21:52
MinceR:)Oct 18 21:53
psydroidex cathedraOct 18 21:56
XRevan86psydroid: catedra?Oct 18 21:58
XRevan86MinceR: This video is non-sense, by the way.Oct 18 21:59
MinceR:)Oct 18 21:59
XRevan86It's still 3rd person, just funky.Oct 18 22:01
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MinceRbut then what would 2nd person be?Oct 18 22:03
XRevan86MinceR: It wouldn't, it's just a lexical analogy that kinda works, getting it "one step beyond" just breaks the analogy.Oct 18 22:04
XRevan86Alternatively, there is just no difference.Oct 18 22:05
XRevan86What's even the difference in how one views somebody between "you are going somewhere" and "she is going somewhere"?Oct 18 22:07
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Oct 18 22:07
XRevan86Basically, the title is just a click-baity excuse to talk about an unusual mission in a game.Oct 18 22:09
XRevan86and being amazed at some game glitchOct 18 22:10
psydroidXRevan86, https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ex-cathedraOct 18 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dictionary.cambridge.org | EX CATHEDRA | meaning in the Cambridge English DictionaryOct 18 22:15
psydroidwith complete authority, or said by the Pope to be true and so accepted by all members of the Roman Catholic ChurchOct 18 22:16
psydroidmaybe we apply that to the Church of St IgnuciusOct 18 22:16
MinceRgood thing i'm not a member of any churchOct 18 22:17
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/2KONaRV.jpgOct 18 22:58
decnetping .......Oct 18 23:03
decnetyou like kittens?Oct 18 23:03
MinceRyesOct 18 23:04
MinceRthough i tend to prefer adult catsOct 18 23:04
decnetI'm watching 'Children of Men"#Oct 18 23:05
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/633029.jpgOct 18 23:05
decnetHaaar : https://hugelolcdn.com/i/633029.jpgOct 18 23:05
decnetIs that ment to be fubby?Oct 18 23:06
decnet"As the sound of the playgrounds faded, the despair set in. Very odd, what happens in a world without children's voices."Oct 18 23:09
MinceRless stress and annoyance?Oct 18 23:09
MinceRmaybe even this cancer on the face of the planet that we call the human species would recedeOct 18 23:10
decnetcorrection: Is that meant to be funny?Oct 18 23:10
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Oct 18 23:10
MinceRthe comment probably was, the article probably wasn'tOct 18 23:10
decnetAm watching a video, distracted :]Oct 18 23:11
decnet'Michael Caine' a proper actor !Oct 18 23:13
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/LSXunUF.jpgOct 18 23:14
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHCII-G_aNMOct 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Cocaine - YouTubeOct 18 23:14
decnethaaa .. nice :oOct 18 23:16
*XRevan86 just learnt about a certain General Secretary who was resigned in 1989Oct 18 23:16
XRevan86scientes: Quite a history the Porcelain country has.Oct 18 23:17
decnetCan't stand what's his name Oct 18 23:17
MinceR:>Oct 18 23:17
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFoWTBZAGMEOct 18 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Michael Caine talks about how his name can be misheard - The Graham Norton Show 2017: Preview - YouTubeOct 18 23:17
decnetNortpn: him .. can't stand him ...Oct 18 23:18
decnetping ...Oct 18 23:23
decnetpong .. am going now ...Oct 18 23:24
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/633012.jpgOct 18 23:31
MinceRhttps://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/1e70e82baa9193f6f027338b0fab0f5078971fbeOct 18 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stream_libarchive: workaround various types of locale braindeath · mpv-player/mpv@1e70e82 · GitHubOct 18 23:54

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