●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 18, 2021 ●●

● Oct 18
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR2	"well, he's dead"
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR2	"you gotta be careful"
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR2	"make sure you have a fall guy"
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR2	Rich the Prick
[00:00]	DaemonFC	I think that would be better in fact.
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR2	*Rick
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe if the cops came to the mansion at the wrong time
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR2	bill would open the door all nakes
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR2	like in lolita the movie
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR2	after all, gates did have naked parties
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR2	no weater
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR2	no glasses
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR2	*sweater
[00:01]	DaemonFC	The assassin on B5 sent after G'Kar: "But they'll think I betrayed the guild! If they ever find me!" G'Kar: "First you will know fear, then you will know pain, and then you will die. Have a pleasant trip!"
[00:01]	DaemonFC	I think child molesters/pornographers should have to live as marked people.
[00:01]	schestowitz	https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/bill-gates-womanizer-held-nude-pool-parties-biographer/
[00:01]		-altlink_26f/#techrights- Cloudflare: nypost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/bill-gates-womanizer-held-nude-pool-parties-biographer/
[00:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Bill Gates 'womanizer,' held nude pool parties: biographer
[00:02]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/05/11/bill-gates-exposed-2021/
[00:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Exposed | Techrights
[00:02]	DaemonFC	The state won't punish anyone else for what they decide to do with them.
[00:02]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/21101355
[00:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5930818)
[00:03]	DaemonFC	Get up every morning and hope none of your victims, or their families, or some guy who opened up the registry and doesn't want you for a neighbor won't kill you.
[00:03]	DaemonFC	Imagine that.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	Imagine Hitler being on trial in an American courtroom today.
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[00:05]	follow	https://mamot.fr/@retiolus/107118729703020043
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[00:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | retiolus: "Just open your Network Monitor, search some stuff" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fdr
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	hi
[00:05]	DaemonFC	"I don't know what came over me. I guess I had to kill 6 million people in those camps because I was consuming too many twinkies and Coca Cola. Really messes with you!".
[00:07]	DaemonFC	I started seeing improving duckduckgo in my adblock list some time ago.
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	wait for irc logs
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	you will see
[00:07]	DaemonFC	Reddit (on the redesign site, not Old Reddit) tries doing "render timing pixels" and if they don't load, they keep trying.
[00:08]	techrights-news	Videos: KDE Plasma 5.23 Run Through, Zoomers, and Software Freedom http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156904 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: KDE Plasma 5.23 Run Through, Zoomers, and Software Freedom | Tux Machines
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	DDG has been silencing critics
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	or gaslighting them
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	truth will catch up with them
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	and they will perish like most Microsoft partners
[00:08]	techrights-news	#FreeSoftware Review: Yoga Image Optimizer. Google Guetzli? WHY!? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156905 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Review: Yoga Image Optimizer. Google Guetzli? WHY!? | Tux Machines
[00:09]		*activelow is loosing track here
[00:09]	activelow	how are things related to each other?
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR2	which things?
[00:10]	activelow	backlog
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR2	ah, I see, thanks for clarifying
[00:11]	techrights-news	Yahoo Finance doing pump and dump with penny stock?? Nothing to see here, move along... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/5-penny-stocks-watch-week-144500155.html
[00:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | 5 Penny Stocks To Watch This Week With Potential Biotech Catalysts
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	activelow: techrights focuses on austria today and tomorrow
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	i published 3 posts this evening with a video
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	you said you had resided in vienna
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	there's a sub-office of the epo there
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[00:13]	activelow	didn't mean to interrupt, only trying to follow meanwhile i'm waiting for some compile job to finish
[00:13]	schestowitz-TR	thanks for building
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	make sure to document ref files like ebuild
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	for gemini it can help adoption
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	either server or client software
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	it's an existing obstacle to adoption
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	the past week we had like 130k page requests in gemini://
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	it has started to slow down our home network already, but I don't mind
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	we can rate-limit the SBC with tc, as we already do for ipfs
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[00:16]	activelow	you can only rate-limit your uplink effectively, not dowlink (page requests), and the uplink limit isn't particularly helpful i think
[00:17]	techrights-news	IAM pushing #swpats agenda for massive troll: " #MPEGLA has hit back at recent IAM analysis which found that Access Advances #HEVC #patent pool provides the most compelling offering to prospective licensees." https://www.iam-media.com/iam-weekly-review-11th-16th-october-2021 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MPEG-LA
[00:17]		-altlink_26f/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/iam-weekly-review-11th-16th-october-2021
[00:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Auto IP conflict heats up; Honor nets BlackBerry patents; Unprecedented Japanese patent battle; MPEG-LA claims HEVC leadership; China's 6G IP focus; plus much more | IAM
[00:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | MPEG-LA - Techrights
[00:18]	activelow	vienna was a failure for me, but it helped alot with the decision to quit with Telekom
[00:18]	schestowitz-TR	DT sucks
[00:18]	activelow	wouldn't say so
[00:18]	schestowitz-TR	unless you're infatuated only with money and power
[00:18]	schestowitz-TR	and want no real life
[00:19]	schestowitz-TR	people don't work for DT to improve the world
[00:19]	schestowitz-TR	they just want the salary
[00:21]	techrights-news	Loaded headline full of nonsense because every single large patent office (and court) rejects this lunacy/fantasy. The body is no better. Pure #propaganda from #patent lunatics, looking to make a buck from junk. https://www.mondaq.com/india/patent/1121316/artificial-intelligence-the-new-inventors
[00:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Artificial Intelligence The New Inventors - Intellectual Property - India
[00:21]	DaemonFC	We called Sprint (now T-Mobile) customer service one day.
[00:21]	DaemonFC	It's in the Philippines.
[00:21]	activelow	a former high ranking manager of them was portrayed, who suffered from bulemia and anorexia, and he continued cycling in parallel to managing telekom cycling team
[00:21]	activelow	fascinating story
[00:21]	DaemonFC	Mandy said hello in Tagalog and they laughed and said hello back in English. Said they weren't allowed to use Tagalog on the clock.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	Nice of Deutche Telekom to steal their language from them even when a customer speaks it natively.
[00:22]	activelow	no need to bash this company, they've got enough problems
[00:22]	techrights-news	Original headline (changed later) showed what these greedy firms are like: "Ascent Resources lifted by higher gas prices" https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/962789/ascent-resources-lifted-by-higher-gas-prices-962789.html yay!! Exensive! Let's get rich while people freeze in their homes??? During pandemic?
[00:22]		-altlink_26f/#techrights- Cloudflare: proactiveinvestors.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/962789/ascent-resources-lifted-by-higher-gas-prices-962789.html
[00:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk | Science Group PLC upgrades profit expectations for the third time this year
[00:22]	DaemonFC	Very evil.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	Microsoft of phone companies.
[00:23]	MinceR	yup
[00:24]	schestowitz-TR	Deutsche TeleCON
[00:24]	DaemonFC	I get that they take the customer service and stick it in the Philippines because it's a country where most speak English and don't expect very much money.
[00:24]	schestowitz-TR	doesn't stand for conferences...
[00:24]	DaemonFC	You can't be mad at the workers there. They're quite nice.
[00:24]	schestowitz-TR	when they're not, they replace them
[00:25]	schestowitz-TR	I noticed BT moved many of the data centre jobs back to the UK
[00:25]	schestowitz-TR	I don't know when exactly and why
[00:25]	schestowitz-TR	obviously it's a good thing anyway, service better
[00:25]	DaemonFC	Under Duterte, I'm surprised Squid Game isn't really happening, and in the Philippines.
[00:25]	MinceR	i can be mad at the suits who first turned origo.hu into a neofascist propaganda rag and then sold it to fidSS
[00:26]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: under The-Dirty nothing good happens
[00:26]	schestowitz-TR	except for the DDS
[00:26]	schestowitz-TR	they call themselves "Diehard DeDirty Supporter"
[00:26]	schestowitz-TR	It's like a cult
[00:26]	schestowitz-TR	he kills? Yay! Must be good
[00:26]	MinceR	i can also be mad at the suits whose knee-jerk response to someone correctly reporting a security issue to them is suing them
[00:26]	schestowitz-TR	Trump didn't have that many drones
[00:27]	DaemonFC	MinceR, In the US state of misery, Missouri, they're filing criminal charges against reporters for reporting that the people who made the state's website screwed up and exposed 100,000 Social Security numbers, even though the reporters agreed not to go public until it got fixed.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	St. Louis looks terrible.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	It's another mostly-black city that's emptying out, where the middle class have been replaced by the impoverished.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	Industry abandoned it.
[00:29]	DaemonFC	About the only major employers are Walmart and bottling beer.
[00:29]	techrights-news	#Patent extremists with their captured (biased) media already look to twist a big blow to their agenda as something positive https://www.law360.com/technology/articles/1431124/latest-ruling-on-ptab-constitutionality-tees-up-more-fights #ptab #patent #uspto
[00:29]		-altlink_26f/#techrights- Cloudflare: law360.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law360.com/technology/articles/1431124/latest-ruling-on-ptab-constitutionality-tees-up-more-fights
[00:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Latest Ruling On PTAB Constitutionality Tees Up More Fights - Law360
[00:29]	DaemonFC	Once you get to that, the only reason any of them stick around is that you're paying the taxes they aren't paying.
[00:30]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/16/corrupt-politicians-in-gurnee-illinois-hand-half-a-million-dollars-in-taxpayer-money-to-the-hobby-lobby-crime-syndicate-for-35-jobs/
[00:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Corrupt politicians in Gurnee, Illinois hand half a million dollars in taxpayer money to the Hobby Lobby Crime Syndicate for 35 jobs. BaronHK's Rants
[00:30]	MinceR	18 012751 < DaemonFC> MinceR, In the US state of misery, Missouri, they're filing criminal charges
[00:30]	MinceR	DT?
[00:31]	DaemonFC	Most of the US is not anywhere a sane person would want to live.
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: it would help if you did not interject race into it
[00:31]	DaemonFC	At best, it's where you ended up.
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	if it was another channel, maybe...
[00:31]	DaemonFC	Well, it's true.
[00:31]	MinceR	s/US/Earth/
[00:31]	MinceR	FTFY
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	but keep it on topic and non-confrontational
[00:31]	DaemonFC	It's a pattern. Detroit, Gary, St. Louis...
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: it's still racist
[00:31]	DaemonFC	All kinds of cities like this.
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	when you describe people by their race
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	and not class
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	that might be "classist"
[00:32]	schestowitz-TR	you can say "poor people"
[00:32]	schestowitz-TR	don't bring up race
[00:32]	DaemonFC	I've considered moving to Gary.
[00:32]	schestowitz-TR	some people complain to me about you interjecting those things
[00:32]	schestowitz-TR	Gary of Michael Jackson
[00:32]	DaemonFC	It's dirt cheap to live there and Indiana is a stand your ground state.
[00:32]	schestowitz-TR	or JJackon 5
[00:32]	DaemonFC	Soon to have Constitutional Carry.
[00:33]	DaemonFC	So if anything does happen, you just do what you need to do and there's not going to be too much of an investigation.
[00:33]	schestowitz-TR	Michael Jackon: born in Gary, died in misery
[00:33]	activelow	weird, one moment he is concerned with american truckers game inside wine emulator, next it is history and bill gates
[00:33]	activelow	now what?
[00:34]	DaemonFC	People said Florida was being racist with "run over protesters" laws. Funny how when someone throws a brick at your car windshield, you might panic and accidentally run them over.
[00:34]	DaemonFC	"Protester"
[00:34]	activelow	any coherence?
[00:35]	techrights-news	#DennisCrouch is feeding crackpots again https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/10/decide-discretionary-institution.html see http://techrights.org/2017/11/20/jan-wolfe-on-us-inventor/
[00:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | How does the USPTO Decide the Discretionary Aspect of Institution? | Patently-O
[00:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | US Inventor is a Bucket of Deplorables Not Worthy of Media Coverage | Techrights
[00:35]	DaemonFC	If they weren't out rioting and stealing from people and assaulting and shooting, there'd have been no danger.
[00:35]	DaemonFC	Maybe they should go home and read a library book,
[00:35]	DaemonFC	Instead of trying to steal TVs and set people's cars on fire.
[00:36]	DaemonFC	I've never seen anything like that in my life and it was absolutely horrifying.
[00:36]	DaemonFC	I heard the sirens while they were tearing the shit out of Waukegan.
[00:36]	techrights-news	"the claims all required a computer or first computer. The problem was that the accused devices performed the various functions across a set of computers." To hell with #swpats https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/10/disclaimer-prosecution-recaptured.html
[00:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Disclaimer in Prosecution cannot be Recaptured in Litigation | Patently-O
[00:36]	DaemonFC	And mind you, I'm not some rich asshole who doesn't have problems regarding finance.
[00:36]	DaemonFC	I was living in a motel and in the middle of bankruptcy, and I still didn't go out and say "This is mine and I'm going to set fire to that.".
[00:37]	DaemonFC	If it wasn't in Illinois, I think the cops could have arrested more than 8 of them, and someone would be in prison right now.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	I saw the "bridges up, don't loot" incident going on in Chicago.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	There were at least eight HUNDRED of them there tearing up downtown.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	The news asks the police chief how many they rounded up, he goes "Eight.".
[00:38]	DaemonFC	THen Kimm Foxx dropped the charges.
[00:38]	activelow	eight?
[00:39]	techrights-news	What a load of nonsense and misnomers; the author is drowning in a sea of misleading #buzzwords and hype waves, repeating what her sponsors in #litigation firms tell her to print https://www.managingip.com/article/b1v0cq7z0m47cd/blockchains-ip-future-promising-but-far-off-say-sources #patents #patent #managingip
[00:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Blockchains IP future promising but far off, say sources | Managing Intellectual Property
[00:39]	DaemonFC	One of their victims was an immigrant from India who had already rebuilt his convenience store after it had previously been ransacked three months prior.
[00:39]	DaemonFC	And he said he had no money to rebuild again and would just have to leave Chicago.
[00:39]	DaemonFC	"We want it to be a place of opportunity for Immigrants." -Governor Pritzker, about Illinois
[00:40]	DaemonFC	Then another of their victims was Ronny's Steakhouse, in the Thompson Center.
[00:40]	techrights-news	Do not write whole articles about topics you do not understand; inserting quotes from vested interests that claim to know better does not compensate for an inability to judge and fact-check.
[00:40]	DaemonFC	They already had financial problems because hipsters don't like those places. They were the last cheap steakhouse, I believe, in Chicago.
[00:41]	schestowitz-TR	wrong channel, DaemonFC
[00:41]	DaemonFC	The dad died, left it to his son, and 2 years later, he had to close it and send everyone home with their last checks because some of these animals ruined the building just to be mean.
[00:42]	DaemonFC	Well, one of the things people are worried about is the face cameras and license plate scanners going in because of all the crime in Chicago.
[00:43]	DaemonFC	But when the software companies admit they can't work anyway because the software is only really good at telling white people apart....
[00:43]	DaemonFC	And that's how you train the software.
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	that's IBM
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	but you are not talking about tech
[00:43]	DaemonFC	They trained it to be very good at recognizing white people, then they put it in to spy on Chicago, it can't solve crimes because usually it's not a white suspect they're looking for anyway.
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	you just show your racism
[00:43]	DaemonFC	THen it's just spying on white people who aren't doing anything.
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	and later I get complaints about you
[00:44]	techrights-news	Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156906 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[00:44]	activelow	anwyway, how is this related to EPO Austria?
[00:44]	DaemonFC	Between the crime and the "solutions" don't work because the solutions are effectively racist against white people in this context due to being repurposed....
[00:45]	DaemonFC	Chicago is shit. It really is.
[00:45]	techrights-news	"In line with other #Arthrex cases, the #PTAB 's finding the #patent is unpatentable has been remanded back to the Acting Director for the limited purpose of determining whether review is warranted. The arguments, which appear copied verbatim from another appeal, were not raised below." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/10/17/unified-defeats-constitutional-arguments-arthrex-remand-granted
[00:45]		-altlink_26f/#techrights- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/10/17/unified-defeats-constitutional-arguments-arthrex-remand-granted
[00:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Unified Defeats Constitutional Arguments; Arthrex Remand Granted Unified Patents
[00:45]	techrights-news	White House Warns Supply Chain Shortages Could Lead Americans To Discover True Meaning Of Christmas https://www.theonion.com/white-house-warns-supply-chain-shortages-could-lead-ame-1847855509 #theonion #satire
[00:45]		-altlink_26f/#techrights- Cloudflare: theonion.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theonion.com/white-house-warns-supply-chain-shortages-could-lead-ame-1847855509
[00:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | White House Warns Supply Chain Shortages Could Lead Americans To Discover True Meaning Of Christmas
[00:46]	DaemonFC	It's another crime to commit a crime while you have a mask on.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	It's a law leftover from the KKK.
[00:46]	techrights-news	ISIS Recalls Starting In Bombed-Out Garage https://www.theonion.com/isis-recalls-starting-in-bombed-out-garage-1847841151 #theonion #satire
[00:46]		-altlink_26f/#techrights- Cloudflare: theonion.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theonion.com/isis-recalls-starting-in-bombed-out-garage-1847841151
[00:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | ISIS Recalls Starting In Bombed-Out Garage
[00:46]	DaemonFC	Technically, the state of Illinois could bring charges under the KKK mask law against these carjackers, for wearing the mask, and for carjacking.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	They don't. They drop everything.
[00:47]	techrights-news	#DonaldBiden https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#17_October_2021_%28Remain_in_Mexico%29
[00:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[00:48]	techrights-news	The Wireless PS/2 Keyboard That Never Was | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/16/the-wireless-ps-2-keyboard-that-never-was/ #hackaday
[00:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wireless PS/2 Keyboard That Never Was | Hackaday
[00:50]	techrights-news	Placebos and partly worthless tests causing shortages? https://hackaday.com/2021/10/17/electronic-covid-test-tear-down-shows-frustrating-example-of-1-time-use-waste/
[00:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Electronic Covid Test Tear Down Shows Frustrating Example Of 1-Time-Use Waste | Hackaday
[00:51]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I switched my search engine to startpage.
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	bad
[00:52]	DaemonFC	THey gave me one captcha.
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	from frying pan/pot to the fire
[00:52]	DaemonFC	Asked me if I was using a VPN
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	they spy on you, sell your data
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	they don't care about vpn
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	they figure out who you are
[00:54]	MinceR	Gary is one of the funnier names for a settlement
[00:56]	techrights-news	pam-krb5 4.11 https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2021-10/001.html
[00:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eyrie.org | Eagle's Path: pam-krb5 4.11 (2021-10-17)
[00:57]	techrights-news	A Redesigned ZX Spectrum Desktop Computer That Works Surprisingly Well | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/17/a-redesigned-zx-spectrum-desktop-computer-that-works-surprisingly-well/ #hackaday
[00:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Redesigned ZX Spectrum Desktop Computer That Works Surprisingly Well | Hackaday
[00:59]	techrights-news	Torvalds a bit late with tonight's #linux RC https://lkml.org/lkml/last100/
[00:59]		-altlink_26f/#techrights- Cloudflare: lkml.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lkml.org/lkml/last100/
[00:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Headers for 100 newest messages
[00:59]	MinceR	lol @ microdrive and rubber keyboard
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[01:01]	schestowitz	yeah
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[01:01]	MinceR	https://hugelolcdn.com/i/784296.jpg
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[01:06]	schestowitz	https://nitter.eu/stautistic/status/1449755780496855046
[01:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | mitchel lewis (@stautistic): "BTW, there isnt an objective measure in existence that says Windows 10/11 is better than Windows Vista. 10/11 is more costly, more complex, defect dense (buggy), and more vulnerable than Vista ever was " | nitter
[01:07]	schestowitz	https://twitter.com/hanscees/status/1449656009660805124
[01:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hanscees: @schestowitz @glynmoody cats be like q https://t.co/fhsLfCsViJ
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[02:22]	DaemonFC	Okay, I pulled in a bunch of firmware from Debian Testing.
[02:22]	DaemonFC	Now I'll reboot and see if it likes that.
[02:22]	DaemonFC	If it does, I'm going to pull in that unsigned Linux 5.14.9 kernel.
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[02:32]	DaemonFC	Client: HexChat 2.16.0 OS: GNOME 41 (Flatpak runtime) CPU: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz (2.80GHz) Memory: Physical: 15.1GiB Total (13.6GiB Free) Swap: 16.6GiB Total (16.6GiB Free) Storage: 91.3GB / 481.4GB (390.1GB Free) VGA: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics @ Intel Corporation 11th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers Uptime: 58s
[02:33]	DaemonFC	Hmm, no kernel info anymore?
[02:33]	DaemonFC	Who removed that?
[02:34]	DaemonFC	~$ uname -a
[02:34]	DaemonFC	Linux ryan-20ve 5.14.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.14.9-2~bpo11+1 (2021-10-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:37]	techrights-news	 techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-171021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-171021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-171021.txt
[02:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 17, 2021
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[02:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 17, 2021
[02:39]	DaemonFC	Grabbed the latest Vulkan loader libraries too. Why not?
[02:40]	techrights-news	 techbytes irc Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-171021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-171021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-171021.txt
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[02:42]	techrights-news	 Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-10-17.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-10-17.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:45]	activelow	DaemonFC: because it is alot more difficult to *remove* any dependency than it was to add any
[02:51]	activelow	for more than 12hours now i try to fully remove opengl dependency from libreoffice, which is slow because compilation times and things breaking unexpectedly in the middle in between
[02:52]	activelow	sure, it isn't an urgent issue, so i did it on sunday while watching german post-election polit gossip in parallel
[02:53]	activelow	nonetheless, i am tired of the industry unloading waste into gnu/linux to sell useless components
[02:54]	activelow	what a nonsense is this: hey, no opengl or GPU to process it? you're out of luck, no libreoffice for you. sponsored by nv/amd/intel/apple.
[02:59]	DaemonFC	LibreOffice needs Vulkan.
● Oct 18
[03:00]	activelow	no, opengl.
[03:00]	activelow	vulkan has other issues, such as limited support by outdated hardware, to push sales with new.
[03:01]	activelow	not sure yet if vulkan-capable hardware requires the llvm/clang monstrosity, which alone takes another few hours to compile with every more or less useless update.
[03:02]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, The new kernel works better.
[03:02]	DaemonFC	My video games are running more smoothly.
[03:03]	DaemonFC	"Intel SGX"
[03:03]	DaemonFC	MinceR, SG-X was that mock unit that Apophis was training to attack the SGC.
[03:03]	MinceR	:>
[03:03]	DaemonFC	Intel SGX is new hardware functionality that can be used by applications to populate protected regions of user code and data called enclaves. 
[03:03]	MinceR	yay, more rootkit functionality
[03:03]	DaemonFC	https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Enclave
[03:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fallout.fandom.com | Enclave | Fallout Wiki | Fandom
[03:04]	MinceR	microsoft and intel business as usual: giving you the opposite of security and calling it security.
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[03:09]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SzkxfsVKwY
[03:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Enclave | Fallout - YouTube
[03:15]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 Gemini requests since start of month:   298548 total Total pages: 37761    Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 1 weeks 0 days ago
[03:15]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated.  TotalIn: 16 GB    TotalOut: 5.7 GB
[03:15]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID 
[03:15]	activelow	i don't see the benefit of SGX. didn't MMU and paged memory already provide virtual adressing to processes for isolation? or did i miss any detail?
[03:16]	activelow	however, i know another tiny little secret, of their security, with the glorious NX-bit applied to memory pages, which is secure because of so, according to vendor marketing.
[03:17]	activelow	only problem, for memory allocations insufficient policies are enforced, meaning if an applications preferst not utilising this feature then it is simply inactive.
[03:18]	activelow	meaning, kernel must enforce policies where and when NX-bit is set, and by default guess what...
[03:20]	DaemonFC	I remember playing Fallout 3, having skipped past the first two games entirely.
[03:20]	DaemonFC	I was thrilled to find the Enclave after hearing an eyebot blastic that propaganda about rebuilding.
[03:21]	techrights-ipfs-bot	QmSfTwYRE2mM7875hHQK9fmXEAAZS4i3r9frAmfJcCFGks
[03:21]	DaemonFC	Then I slowly found out what they were and helped the Brotherhood of Steel destroy them. I think it was better not knowing the backstory.
[03:21]	DaemonFC	*blasting
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[03:23]	DaemonFC	https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=92890123749bafc317bbfacbe0a62ce08d78efb7
[03:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[03:24]	DaemonFC	That means that a 64-bit system with 128GB or more memory will likely
[03:24]	DaemonFC	have the maximum value of 1048576 for inotify.max_user_watches. This
[03:24]	DaemonFC	default should be big enough for most use cases.
[03:24]	DaemonFC	"640K Should be enough for anybody!" - Bill Gates
[03:25]	DaemonFC	BtrFS got a bunch of performance improvements in Linux 5.11 apparently.
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[03:44]	activelow	640K is probably enough for some powerful chess computer
[03:45]	activelow	IBM marketing with their match against Kasparov was a marketing scam to trick customers into thinking it wasn't enought to beat a world champion
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[07:44]	schestowitz-TR	[03:45] <activelow> IBM marketing with their match against Kasparov was a marketing scam to trick customers into thinking it wasn't enought to beat a world champion
[07:44]	schestowitz-TR	not that
[07:44]	schestowitz-TR	it's a  term with "master" in it
[07:44]	schestowitz-TR	so IBM cannot say it anymore
[07:47]	activelow	grand master
[07:49]	schestowitz-TR	[03:02] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, The new kernel works better.
[07:49]	schestowitz-TR	futex2?
● Oct 18
[08:02]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/dodgy-duckduckgo-scam/
[08:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How (Simple Technical Steps) to Convince Yourself That DuckDuckGo is Just Spyware Connected to Microsoft, Falsely Advertised as Privacy | Techrights
[08:05]	activelow	yet another syscall. $ cat /usr/include/bits/syscall.h | grep SYS_ | cat -n | tail -n1 # shows 439, with futex2 it is 440 then
[08:07]	schestowitz-TR	300k page requests over gemini after just 17 days
[08:08]	schestowitz-TR	I still have it in my todo notes to prepare for disaster, e.g. corrupt FS
[08:09]	Techrights-sec	nice.  that's about 12k per day or so
[08:09]	Techrights-sec	yes the activities on the RPi are currently write intensive
[08:09]	Techrights-sec	having a spare microSD card ready somewhere can save a lot of time 
[08:09]	schestowitz-TR	maybe I will buy one, with greater capacity, next time I'm in town to buy necessities
[08:10]	Techrights-sec	sounds like a good idea.  the package doesn't even have to be opened until
[08:10]	Techrights-sec	it is time to use it, but it will save the delay a trip to the store would
[08:10]	Techrights-sec	take
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[08:21]	schestowitz-TR	backing up everything at the moment, except underlying OS (only /home)
[08:23]	Techrights-sec	rsync can do incremental backups too
[08:24]	schestowitz-TR	this is what I use; I also download offsite backups of DBs (tm+tr), but file systems is another thing (though RAIDed)
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[08:57]	Techrights-sec	mdadm for RAID1 ?  or RAID5 ?
[08:57]	Techrights-sec	OpenZFS starts to be looking more technically feasible in the near future,     
[08:57]	Techrights-sec	though the licensing is still intentionally incompatible with the GPL
[08:57]	Techrights-sec	Speaking of licensing the trouble with Qt is coming home to roost.  They
[08:57]	Techrights-sec	would not have these problems if they had continued with the dual licensing
[08:57]	Techrights-sec	programme they had which centered around the GPL.
[08:57]	Techrights-sec	Problems with Qt are going to hit a great many FOSS projects.
[08:57]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.eu/lucabattanta/status/1449892666687299586#m
[08:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Luca Battanta (@lucabattanta): "Breton ah questo qui per capirci http://techrights.org/2019/11/19/insider-trading-scandal-at-eads/" | nitter
● Oct 18
[09:02]	activelow	i am planning to merge qt4 back into the tree, and kicked out qt5 (and 6) already
[09:02]	schestowitz-TR	qt5 lts is proprietary
[09:02]	schestowitz-TR	not only qt6
[09:03]	activelow	among other issues
[09:03]	activelow	and i hope for some qt4 (webengine/webkit) based web browser to replace firefox
[09:03]	activelow	qtweb.net
[09:04]	XRevan86	activelow: That's incredibly nave. Qt4 WebEngine is not a thing and Qt4 WebKit is not adapted for WebKit2 and is no longer a real thing.
[09:05]	activelow	XRevan86: even better, the website seems down already, and both qt4 and qtweb disappeared from gentoo tree already
[09:06]	XRevan86	activelow: No surprises there.
[09:06]	techrights-news	#patents on seeds, plants, fruits, animals https://hugelolcdn.com/i/784296.jpg #patent #monopoly etc. applicable here...
[09:06]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/784296.jpg
[09:07]	techrights-news	#Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, October 17, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[09:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
[09:07]	techrights-news	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[09:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
[09:07]	techrights-news	...part 16 of #techrights series on #epo to be published tonight. It's about #RudeLiar from #austria again.
[09:08]	techrights-news	How (Simple Technical Steps) to Convince Yourself That #DuckDuckGo is Just #Spyware Connected to #Microsoft , Falsely Advertised as #Privacy http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/dodgy-duckduckgo-scam/
[09:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How (Simple Technical Steps) to Convince Yourself That DuckDuckGo is Just Spyware Connected to Microsoft, Falsely Advertised as Privacy | Techrights
[09:08]	techrights-news	[Meme] The Austrian School of Friedrich Rude Liar http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/meme-the-austrian-school-of-friedrich-rude-liar/
[09:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Austrian School of Friedrich Rude Liar | Techrights
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[09:10]	techrights-news	#9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 17th, 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156907
[09:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 17th, 2021 | Tux Machines
[09:11]	techrights-news	31 Best Linux Performance Monitoring Tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156908 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 31 Best Linux Performance Monitoring Tools | Tux Machines
[09:11]	techrights-news	Review: #Auxtral 3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156909 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Auxtral 3 | Tux Machines
[09:11]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156910 #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[09:12]	techrights-news	Stable Kernels: 5.14.13, 5.10.74, 5.4.154, 4.19.212, 4.14.251, 4.9.287, and 4.4.289 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156911 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.14.13, 5.10.74, 5.4.154, 4.19.212, 4.14.251, 4.9.287, and 4.4.289 | Tux Machines
[09:13]	techrights-news	6 Best Command Line Music Players for GNU/Linux in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156912 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Best Command Line Music Players for Linux in 2021 | Tux Machines
[09:14]	techrights-news	Best #FreeSW Alternatives to #Adobe Photoshop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156913
[09:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe Photoshop | Tux Machines
[09:14]	techrights-news	Linux 5.15-rc6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156914 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.15-rc6 | Tux Machines
[09:16]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook disputes report that its HEY HI cant detect hate speech or violence consistently https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/17/22731214/facebook-disputes-report-artificial-intelligence-hate-speech-violence
[09:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook disputes report that its AI cant detect hate speech or violence consistently - The Verge
[09:16]	techrights-news	 NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #Instagram Struggles With Fears of Losing Its Pipeline: Young Users https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/16/technology/instagram-teens.html
[09:16]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/16/technology/instagram-teens.html
[09:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Instagram Struggles With Fears of Losing Its Pipeline: Young Users - The New York Times
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[09:19]	techrights-news	 NEWS #taiwannews #taiwan #tw #china Chinese #socialcontrolmedia targets satirical duet by Namewee with Taiwan-based singer https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4316893
[09:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taiwannews.com.tw | Chinese social media targets satirical duet by Namewee with Taiwan-based singer | Taiwan News | 2021-10-16 19:35:00
[09:22]	techrights-news	 NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Disinformation YouTubes stronger #election #misinformation policies had a spillover effect on Twitter and Facebook, researchers say. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/14/technology/distortions-youtube-policies.html
[09:22]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/14/technology/distortions-youtube-policies.html
[09:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | YouTubes stronger election misinformation policies had a spillover effect on Twitter and Facebook, researchers say. - The New York Times
[09:23]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheEconomist #Censorship #Internet shutdowns have become a weapon of repressive regimes https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/10/15/internet-shutdowns-have-become-a-weapon-of-repressive-regimes
[09:23]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/10/15/internet-shutdowns-have-become-a-weapon-of-repressive-regimes
[09:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Internet shutdowns have become a weapon of repressive regimes | The Economist
[09:25]	techrights-news	 NEWS #NBC #PressFreedom Life as a 'foreign agent': Inside #Russia 's crackdown on free speech https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putins-russia-wages-crackdown-free-speech-political-dissent-rcna3137
[09:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Putin's Russia wages crackdown on free speech, political dissent
[09:25]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheHill #PressFreedom 'Slow moving coup' journalists need to do a better job than comedians https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/577095-slow-moving-coup-journalists-need-to-do-better-a-better-job-than-comedians
[09:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Slow moving coup' journalists need to do a better job than comedians | TheHill
[09:28]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheVerge #JannekeParrish #apple A brief chat with the fired #AppleToo organizer https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/16/22729072/apple-too-organizer-janneke-parrish-interview
[09:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | A brief chat with the fired #AppleToo organizer - The Verge
[09:28]	techrights-news	 NEWS #NewYorkTimes #JannekeParrish #apple #AppleToo Leader of Apple activism movement says she was fired. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/technology/appletoo-apple-janneke-parrish.html
[09:28]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/technology/appletoo-apple-janneke-parrish.html
[09:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Leader of Apple activism movement says she was fired. - The New York Times
[09:30]	techrights-news	 NEWS #FPSReview #DRM #DigitalRestrictions #classaction #Canon Faces Lawsuit for Disabling Printer Features after Ink Runs Out https://www.thefpsreview.com/2021/10/17/canon-faces-lawsuit-for-disabling-printer-features-after-ink-runs-out/
[09:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thefpsreview.com | Canon Faces Lawsuit for Disabling Printer Features after Ink Runs Out - The FPS Review
[09:30]	techrights-news	 NEWS #ClassAction #DRM #DigitalRestrictions #classaction #Canon Concealed that All-in-One Printers Cant Scan, Fax When Ink Is Low or Empty, Class Action Claims https://www.classaction.org/blog/canon-concealed-that-all-in-one-printers-cant-scan-fax-when-ink-is-low-or-empty-class-action-claims
[09:30]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: classaction.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.classaction.org/blog/canon-concealed-that-all-in-one-printers-cant-scan-fax-when-ink-is-low-or-empty-class-action-claims
[09:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.classaction.org | Canon Concealed that All-in-One Printers Cant Scan, Fax When Ink Is Low or Empty, Class Action Claims
[09:32]	techrights-news	 NEWS #HotHardware #DRM #DigitalRestrictions #classaction #Canon Slapped With Lawsuit For Killing Scanner Function When Printer Ink Runs Out https://hothardware.com/news/canon-slapped-with-lawsuit-for-killing-scanner-function-when-printer-ink-runs-out
[09:32]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: hothardware.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hothardware.com/news/canon-slapped-with-lawsuit-for-killing-scanner-function-when-printer-ink-runs-out
[09:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canon Slapped With Lawsuit For Killing Scanner Function When Printer Ink Runs Out | HotHardware
[09:32]	techrights-news	 NEWS #BusinessInsider #DRM #DigitalRestrictions Man files #classaction lawsuit against #Canon , seeking more than $5 million in damages over printers that won't scan documents when ink cartridges are low https://www.businessinsider.com/canon-printers-class-action-lawsuit-filed-over-printers-2021-10
[09:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Canon Hit With $5M Class-Action Suit Over Printer-Ink Complaint
[09:32]	techrights-news	In recent days we published or republished some bits and pieces about what #DuckDuckGo really is; the above reader dropped by to enlighten us and demonstrate just how easy it is to see what #DDG does even at the client side (with #JavaScript ) http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/dodgy-duckduckgo-scam/
[09:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How (Simple Technical Steps) to Convince Yourself That DuckDuckGo is Just Spyware Connected to Microsoft, Falsely Advertised as Privacy | Techrights
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[09:33]	techrights-news	"its impossible to tell #parody nowadays" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-171021.html#tOct%2017%2021:54:41
[09:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 17, 2021
[09:33]	techrights-news	What #microsoft #github is for http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-171021.html#tOct 17 15:09:30 #deletegithub
[09:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 17, 2021
[09:34]	techrights-news	"even when using masks was mandatory, people would wear them under their nose, on their throats or just hanging from 1 ear" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-171021.html#tOct%2017%2019:05:31
[09:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 17, 2021
[09:34]	techrights-news	 #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 17, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/irc-log-171021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/18/irc-log-171021/
[09:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 17, 2021 | Techrights
[09:36]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Anti-Piracy Outfits Still Target #fileSharing Sites That Shut Down Years Ago https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-outfits-still-target-pirate-sites-that-shut-down-years-ago-211017/
[09:36]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-outfits-still-target-pirate-sites-that-shut-down-years-ago-211017/
[09:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anti-Piracy Outfits Still Target Pirate Sites That Shut Down Years Ago * TorrentFreak
[09:36]	techrights-news	s/IP/copyright/ https://www.cracked.com/article_31549_why-a-calvin-hobbes-animated-series-isnt-happening-ever.html #copyright #copyrights
[09:36]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: cracked.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cracked.com/article_31549_why-a-calvin-hobbes-animated-series-isnt-happening-ever.html
[09:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why A 'Calvin & Hobbes' Animated Series Isn't Happening (Ever) | Cracked.com
[09:37]	techrights-news	With reference to the #Austria School, lets consider the fact that Friedrich #RudeLiar might in fact be standing to personally gain by plundering the #EPO s staff by demonising them while helping #BenotBattistelli crush them http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/meme-the-austrian-school-of-friedrich-rude-liar/
[09:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Austrian School of Friedrich Rude Liar | Techrights
[09:38]	techrights-news	iophk: actual support or does MS Office /still/ lose data? https://www.techzim.co.zw/2021/10/office-2021-which-is-compatible-with-libreoffice-is-coming-out-tomorrow/
[09:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | Office 2021 which is compatible with LibreOffice is coming out tomorrow - Techzim
[09:39]	techrights-news	#murdoch #wsj on #facebook https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-facebook-files-11631713039
[09:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Facebook Files - WSJ
[09:48]	techrights-news	Links 18/10/2021: Linux 5.15 RC6 and 7 New Stable Kernels http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/linux-5-15-rc6/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/18/linux-5-15-rc6/
[09:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/10/2021: Linux 5.15 RC6 and 7 New Stable Kernels | Techrights
[09:48]	techrights-news	#DigitalRestrictions ( #DRM ) on #Printers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156915
[09:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Digital Restrictions (DRM) on Printers | Tux Machines
[09:49]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156916 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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[11:44]	GNUmoon2	https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3dawk/wickr-cia-funding-inqtel
[11:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | CIA Funding Arm Gave Encrypted App Wickr $1.6 Million
[11:45]	GNUmoon2	Interesting Amazon bought Wickr afterwards. Back door public funding. 
● Oct 18
[12:00]	techrights-news	#Microsoft #GitHub Expos Part II The Campaign Against #GPL Compliance and War on #Copyleft Enforcement http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/github-vs-copyleft-enforcement/ #deletegithub
[12:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Expos Part II The Campaign Against GPL Compliance and War on Copyleft Enforcement | Techrights
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR	GNUmoon2: interesting
[12:03]	techrights-news	#Wickr = likely honeypot https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3dawk/wickr-cia-funding-inqtel
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[12:05]	schestowitz	GNUmoon2: we have a related story coming
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[12:05]	GNUmoon2	schestowitz: fantastic. 
[12:05]	schestowitz	[19:35] <source> Oh and just to clarify about my connections to the NSA[19:35] <source> I worked for New Knowledge previously[19:35] 
[12:05]	schestowitz	[19:35] <source> That's where I met the guy that said that elastic search was all NSA
[12:06]	schestowitz	but it might take us months to get to that article
[12:06]	schestowitz	because of EPO
[12:11]	techrights-news	Former #Microsoft Security Analyst Claims Office 365 Knowingly Hosted Malware For Years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156917 #TuxMachines
[12:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Former Microsoft Security Analyst Claims Office 365 Knowingly Hosted Malware For Years | Tux Machines
[12:11]	techrights-news	#CuteFish An Elegant, Beautiful and Easy-to-Use Linux Desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156918 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CuteFish An Elegant, Beautiful and Easy-to-Use Linux Desktop | Tux Machines
[12:12]	techrights-news	Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156919 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[12:12]	techrights-news	Results from the Survey about #LibreOffice Calc http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156920 #freesw #TuxMachines
[12:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Results from the Survey about LibreOffice Calc | Tux Machines
[12:14]	schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156699#comment-31424
[12:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Multiboot USB Creator Ventoy Adds a GUI Mode to Its Live ISO Image | Tux Machines
[12:19]	techrights-news	#Ventoy 1.0.55http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156699#comment-31428
[12:20]	techrights-news	Linux Tablets: What are Your Options? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156921 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Tablets: What are Your Options? | Tux Machines
[12:21]	techrights-news	#Ubuntu 21.10: Plan to do yourself an Indri? Here's what's inside... including a bit of GNOME schooling http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31429
[12:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
[12:39]	techrights-news	#Microsoft contemplated buying #GitHub 7.5 years ago; the goal wasnt to actually support #OpenSource but to crush it from the inside and thats what Microsoft has been doing over the past 2.5 years (we have some details from the inside) http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/github-vs-copyleft-enforcement/
[12:48]	techrights-news	#Kernel 5.14.13 in #PCLinuxOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156911#comment-31431
[12:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.14.13, 5.10.74, 5.4.154, 4.19.212, 4.14.251, 4.9.287, and 4.4.289 | Tux Machines
[12:49]	techrights-news	These Open Source SCAMMERS are getting out of control! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Mq2qN1uAZZA #video #invidious #krita #kde
[12:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | These Open Source SCAMMERS are getting out of control! - Invidious
[12:50]	techrights-news	Steam Play tool Luxtorpeda for running games in native Linux engines sees a major upgrade | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/steam-play-tool-luxtorpeda-for-running-games-in-native-linux-engines-sees-a-major-upgrade #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/18/#latest
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[12:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Play tool Luxtorpeda for running games in native Linux engines sees a major upgrade | GamingOnLinux
[12:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[12:52]	techrights-news	#OpenTTD 12.0 is out now improving multiplayer for fans of Transport Tycoon Deluxe | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/openttd-120-is-out-now-improving-multiplayer-for-fans-of-transport-tycoon-deluxe
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[12:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenTTD 12.0 is out now improving multiplayer for fans of Transport Tycoon Deluxe | GamingOnLinux
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[13:10]	techrights-news	Studio Mir. Not #mir in the #linux sense. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/marci-from-the-dota-dragons-blood-anime-will-join-dota-2-later-this-year
[13:10]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/marci-from-the-dota-dragons-blood-anime-will-join-dota-2-later-this-year
[13:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Marci from the DOTA: Dragon's Blood anime will join Dota 2 later this year | GamingOnLinux
[13:14]	techrights-news	" #Merck wants to charge Americans $700 for a drug that costs $18 to produce. That is a ratio of around 39. The fact that the US government paid for the development of this drug adds a second kind of unfairness to the issue" https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#17_October_2021_%28Merck_drug_costs%29
[13:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[13:15]	techrights-news	2010: #GatesFoundation : GAVI, #Pfizer , #Merck , and the African Ventures http://techrights.org/2010/03/22/image-redone-with-cartels/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2010/03/22/image-redone-with-cartels/
[13:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Roundup: (Mis)Education With Spin; GAVI, Pfizer, Merck, and the African Ventures | Techrights
[13:16]	techrights-news	Why Everything is Suddenly Getting More Expensive And Why It Wont Stop https://eand.co/why-everything-is-suddenly-getting-more-expensive-and-why-it-wont-stop-cbf5a091f403?gi=e4da9f398da8 at the same time: https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/
[13:16]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/
[13:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eand.co | Why Everything is Suddenly Getting More Expensive And Why It Wont Stop | by umair haque | Oct, 2021 | Eudaimonia and Co
[13:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation
[13:17]	techrights-news	Trump Testing 2024 Waters By Inciting Iowans To Burn State Capitol To Ground https://www.theonion.com/trump-testing-2024-waters-by-inciting-iowans-to-burn-st-1847864099 #theonion #satire
[13:17]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: theonion.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theonion.com/trump-testing-2024-waters-by-inciting-iowans-to-burn-st-1847864099
[13:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Trump Testing 2024 Waters By Inciting Iowans To Burn State Capitol To Ground
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[13:48]	techrights-news	Many war criminals dying in recent years...
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[13:54]	techrights-news	#ibm #redhat as buzzwords machines. A lot of the technical people have already quit, so marketing bunnies are in charge https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/devsecops-11-questions-ask-about-your-security-strategy-now
[13:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | DevSecOps: 11 questions to ask about your security strategy now | The Enterprisers Project
[13:55]	techrights-news	"A judge in England ruled that using an Amazon Ring snooping device that watched and listened to a neighbor's property violated her privacy, so he awarded her substantial damages." #amazon #espionage #pentagon #surveillance #uk https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#17_October_2021_%28Judge_in_england_amazon%29
[13:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
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[13:57]	techrights-news	Parental control is a smoke screen for right-wing activists https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/14/opinions/parental-control-smoke-screen-right-wing-activists-ben-ghiat/index.html
[13:57]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/14/opinions/parental-control-smoke-screen-right-wing-activists-ben-ghiat/index.html
[13:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Opinion: Parental control is a smoke screen for right-wing activists - CNN
[13:58]	techrights-news	#NYPD Lawyer Who Oversaw Violent Arrests of Legal Observers Should Be Disciplined, Watchdog Says https://theintercept.com/2021/10/15/nypd-legal-observer-arrests-bronx-protests/ #theintercept
[13:58]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2021/10/15/nypd-legal-observer-arrests-bronx-protests/
[13:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | NYPD Lawyer Who Oversaw Violent Arrests of Legal Observers Should Be Disciplined, Watchdog Says
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[14:14]	techrights-news	Habana Labs For Linux 5.16 To Bring Peer-To-Peer Support With DMA-BUF - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Habana-Labs-Linux-5.16 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux
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[14:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Habana Labs For Linux 5.16 To Bring Peer-To-Peer Support With DMA-BUF - Phoronix
[14:17]	techrights-news	#Linux 5.15-rc6 Ticks Up In Size, Stops Using AMD SME By Default - Phoronix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156914#comment-31432
[14:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.15-rc6 | Tux Machines
[14:29]	techrights-news	#Mesa 22.0 Lands Some Patches Toward OpenCL Image Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-22.0-OpenCL-Image-Prep #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/18/#latest
[14:29]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-22.0-OpenCL-Image-Prep
[14:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 22.0 Lands Some Patches Toward OpenCL Image Support - Phoronix
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[14:56]	techrights-news	#Games: Steam Play, #Dota 2, and Free/Libre OpenTTD 12.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156922 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Play, Dota 2, and Free/Libre OpenTTD 12.0 | Tux Machines
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[17:09]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156923 # #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[17:13]	techrights-news	"We are in danger of destroying ourselves by our greed and stupidity. We cannot remain looking inwards at ourselves on a small and increasingly polluted and overcrowded planet." Stephen Hawking
[17:19]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.73   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 23.13 swarm size (avg): 259.67  
[17:23]	techrights-news	Annotator: Open-Source App for Linux to Easily Add Essential Annotations to Your Images http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156924 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Annotator: Open-Source App for Linux to Easily Add Essential Annotations to Your Images | Tux Machines
[17:24]	techrights-news	Junos Linux laptops now available with Intel Tiger Lake-H or AMD Ryzen 5000H http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156925 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Junos Linux laptops now available with Intel Tiger Lake-H or AMD Ryzen 5000H | Tux Machines
[17:25]	techrights-news	#Ubuntu 21.10 Radeon Gaming With KDE Plasma vs. GNOME Shell + Wayland vs. X.Org http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156926 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Radeon Gaming With KDE Plasma vs. GNOME Shell + Wayland vs. X.Org | Tux Machines
[17:26]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156927 #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[17:28]	XRevan86	https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/10/18/russian-court-declares-far-right-hate-group-male-state-an-extremist-organization they crossed the line.
[17:28]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/10/18/russian-court-declares-far-right-hate-group-male-state-an-extremist-organization
[17:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE
[17:28]	XRevan86	https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/10/18/russia-to-suspend-nato-mission-and-shutter-the-alliance-s-information-office-in-moscow
[17:28]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: who crossed it?
[17:28]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/10/18/russia-to-suspend-nato-mission-and-shutter-the-alliance-s-information-office-in-moscow
[17:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE
[17:29]	schestowitz-TR	The group?
[17:29]	schestowitz-TR	of the Purin Mafia?
[17:29]	schestowitz-TR	*Putin
[17:29]	AdmFubar	https://www.databreaches.net/popular-student-monitoring-software-could-have-exposed-thousands-to-hacks/
[17:29]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: databreaches.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/popular-student-monitoring-software-could-have-exposed-thousands-to-hacks/
[17:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Popular student monitoring software could have exposed thousands to hacks
[17:29]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: I will only link to that site again if they repair RSS
[17:29]	AdmFubar	well it aint the purina mafia....
[17:29]	schestowitz-TR	they don't even yield a title without JS turned on
[17:29]	XRevan86	schestowitz: The group. It's been messing with people for years.
[17:29]	MinceR	(audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/784163.mp4
[17:29]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/v/784163.mp4
[17:30]	MinceR	purine mafia
[17:30]	XRevan86	But recently they tried cancelling Yandex and things went south.
[17:31]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: the purist mafia
[17:33]		*koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights
[17:33]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: the oil won
[17:33]	schestowitz-TR	I want to see 10 litres of oil versis 10kg of ice
[17:33]	schestowitz-TR	that might be interesting
[17:36]	techrights-news	[Meme] [Teaser] More to Life Than #Patents http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/money-and-patents/ #austraia #europe #epo #greed
[17:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] More to Life Than Patents | Techrights
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[17:37]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: did you see the DDG post?
[17:37]	schestowitz-TR	you also got a comment
[17:37]	DaemonFC	We got back from taking Mandy to his first dental appointment today.
[17:37]	schestowitz-TR	no idea how, maybe a person who register an account a decade ago
[17:38]	DaemonFC	Dead roots and part of a tooth they left in there in the Philippines came out.
[17:38]	schestowitz-TR	let's focus on tech
[17:38]	DaemonFC	Link?
[17:38]	schestowitz-TR	not life diaries, at least not this channel
[17:38]	schestowitz-TR	wait
[17:38]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/dodgy-duckduckgo-scam/
[17:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How (Simple Technical Steps) to Convince Yourself That DuckDuckGo is Just Spyware Connected to Microsoft, Falsely Advertised as Privacy | Techrights
[17:39]	schestowitz	comment here http://techrights.org/2021/10/16/fb-dying-platform/
[17:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook Whistleblowers Aside, It Has Been a Dying Platform for Years, and Its Mentally Perverting the Older Generation | Techrights
[17:39]	schestowitz	we don't let new accounts be created
[17:39]	schestowitz	so this one must be very old
[17:40]	DaemonFC	Reading the logs.
[17:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I sent an email to Nathan Lineback about his "Use Firefox." stuff on Toastytech.
[17:41]	DaemonFC	Hi,
[17:41]	DaemonFC	I noticed your rants about Microsoft Edge spewing ads all over the
[17:41]	DaemonFC	Windows desktop. IE Channel Band rides again.
[17:41]	DaemonFC	Windows 10/11 really are awful. I'm glad I switched to Debian.
[17:41]	DaemonFC	The problem? Firefox has become so rarely used these days that they're
[17:41]	DaemonFC	milking their few remaining users by shoving in all sorts of ads.
[17:41]	schestowitz-TR	if he replies, interesting...
[17:41]	DaemonFC	I grit my teeth over the web DRM nonsense, even though it made Firefox
[17:41]	DaemonFC	proprietary software and....well, meant DRM had won and the open web
[17:41]	DaemonFC	had officially lost.
[17:41]	DaemonFC	But when I opened up Firefox 93 (from the Flatpak provided by Mozilla)
[17:41]	DaemonFC	and there was this Suggest adware/spyware/keylogger, all sorts of
[17:41]	DaemonFC	sponsored bookmark ads, and "sponsored story" crap from "Pocket", I
[17:41]	DaemonFC	knew that it was finally over. 
[17:41]	DaemonFC	I've been using GNOME Web and Vivaldi more often because I simply
[17:41]	DaemonFC	cannot stand the thought of opening Firefox and I don't know who at
[17:41]	DaemonFC	Mozilla thought that it was okay to do this. 
[17:41]	DaemonFC	Even Vivaldi has one place where you click to make the Widevine DRM go
[17:41]	DaemonFC	away, and other than some default bookmarks to delete and changing the
[17:41]	DaemonFC	search engine to startpage, it leaves me alone after that. The Sync
[17:41]	DaemonFC	feature even remembers I didn't want their bookmarks and clears them
[17:41]	DaemonFC	for me in new installs. 
[17:41]	DaemonFC	Firefox has a GUI setting for the DRM and like half a dozen
[17:41]	DaemonFC	about:config things to make it stop yelling about turning it on, and
[17:42]	DaemonFC	then you have to go through the entire gauntlet to turn off the ad and
[17:42]	DaemonFC	spyware. No thanks.
[17:42]	DaemonFC	Perhaps it's time to say that Firefox was supposed to destroy them, and
[17:42]	DaemonFC	intead it became them.
[17:42]	DaemonFC	-Ryan Farmer
[17:42]	DaemonFC	He did.
[17:42]	DaemonFC	"Yea, I've been inches away from nuking my "firefox is good" pages. 
[17:42]	DaemonFC	I've been sticking with a "New Moon" port for Windows XP, but lots of
[17:42]	DaemonFC	sites are breaking things for no good reason.
[17:42]	DaemonFC	I remember when one of the advantages was that Firefox was available for
[17:42]	DaemonFC	almost every OS out there. Crap like DRM and all of this compiling
[17:42]	DaemonFC	scripts to assembly makes porting that much harder.
[17:42]	DaemonFC	It really hurts because I used to actively promote Firefox. I've still
[17:42]	DaemonFC	got a bunch of stickers and stuff that the Mozilla folks sent me because
[17:42]	DaemonFC	I participated in their SpreadFirefox event for Firefox 3.
[17:42]	DaemonFC	I get so tired of not having control over technology I use. And even
[17:42]	DaemonFC	more tired of the attitude that I should just put up with it all like
[17:42]	DaemonFC	some kind of cow. 
[17:42]	DaemonFC	Anyway, thanks for visiting my site.
[17:42]	DaemonFC	-- Sent from Microsoft Windows 95"
[17:42]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: my pov, use gemini when possible, otherwise consider things like netsurf, which are super cross-platform and work with sites that are worth visiting (not web "apps")
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	we need to encourage people to not assume www is the one and only
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	but that multiple 'multiverses' exist
[17:43]	DaemonFC	Vivaldi is now "less bad" than Firefox.
[17:43]	DaemonFC	And certainly less bad than Chrome as well.
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	and for some things the www isn't even necessary
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	online banking != web page
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	it's just an application rendered in browser canvas
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	that's why they also have "apps"
[17:43]	DaemonFC	Vivaldi is compatible enough with Chrome that sites work, including banks.
[17:44]	schestowitz-TR	and many "apps" are nowadays just 'web-like' (frameworks)
[17:44]	DaemonFC	It removed Vivaldi from the UA to trick them into working because they sniffed for UAs and broke Vivaldi even though it can render them fine.
[17:44]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: use falkon
[17:44]	schestowitz-TR	it also works with almost anything chrome-compatible
[17:44]	schestowitz-TR	and it's freesw
[17:44]	schestowitz-TR	and not controlled by a company
[17:44]	schestowitz-TR	it's mainly daniel, except translations
[17:45]	DaemonFC	At the browser level, it's not corporate.
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	by using it you help jon raise its value
[17:45]	DaemonFC	At the rendering engine level it's everyone that "contributes" to Chromium, including Google and Microsoft.
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	unless he sells
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	like he did opera
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	*until
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	not unless
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	he will sell it
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	sell the USERS
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	don't be a used [sic]
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	Mozilla treats users of Firefox like useds now
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	they're "audiences"
[17:46]	DaemonFC	Did Jon sell Opera?
[17:46]	DaemonFC	I think they did that after he left as CEO.
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	yes, to China
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	well, either way opera is compromise
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	they do "vpn"
[17:46]	DaemonFC	It's not really a VPN.
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	hardly even claiming it adds any value
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	yeah
[17:46]	DaemonFC	It's a proxy server.
[17:46]	DaemonFC	It's over HTTPS.
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	so?
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	the proxy logs
[17:47]	DaemonFC	Yes, it does.
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	and who knows where that data goes...
[17:47]	DaemonFC	It's basically just the Opera Mini proxy without Opera pre-rendering the site.
[17:48]	DaemonFC	They still update Presto, for Opera Mini.
[17:48]	DaemonFC	But you can't use it other than that.
[17:48]	DaemonFC	It's actually reasonably compatible with modern websites, but you can't get it in an Opera browser other than Opera Mini, running on their server,
[17:50]	DaemonFC	"duck is... not so yummy"
[17:50]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, My brother ordered tea smoked duck at some fancy Chinese restaurant.
[17:50]	DaemonFC	He got it and couldn't eat it.
[17:51]	schestowitz-TR	happened to me with chicken feet
[17:51]	DaemonFC	I asked for a bite and it tasted like they brought him duck marinated in water from an ashtray full of Camel cigarette butts.
[17:51]	schestowitz-TR	I did know what I had ordered
[17:52]	DaemonFC	Well, tea smoked duck sounds like something that might be good.
[17:52]	DaemonFC	I hate it when you go to a restaurant and spend that kind of money and then get something that's not good.
[17:52]	schestowitz-TR	we love ducks, not for eattng...
[17:52]	schestowitz-TR	rianne fed some today
[17:52]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I feed them stale bread sometimes.
[17:52]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: did you at least finish it?
[17:52]	schestowitz-TR	poor duck going to waste is really sad and tragic
[17:53]	DaemonFC	I had them box it up and I took it home and ate it later.
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	ah, good
[17:53]	DaemonFC	I don't like wasting food when I see how "the other half" lives.
[17:54]	DaemonFC	There was a guy at the Metra station one day and he asked someone if he could have some money to get something from McDonalds.
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	that's what he said
[17:54]	DaemonFC	So they gave him their large order of fries and a burger.
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	sometimes they mean it
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	hungry people might get a cheap loaf anc beer
[17:54]	DaemonFC	Oh, I thought it was the usual "I'm going to the liquor store with this." nonsense.
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	same price
[17:54]	DaemonFC	But he fell on it like a ravenous animal.
[17:54]	DaemonFC	Like, the burger was gone in two bites and then he swallowed the fries.
[17:55]	DaemonFC	Then he went back to digging through the trash for half-eaten food.
[17:55]	schestowitz-TR	see? US dreamland
[17:55]	DaemonFC	This is the Democrat city of Chicago.
[17:55]	schestowitz-TR	some person owns all the farmland
[17:55]	DaemonFC	In the great Democrat state of Illinois.
[17:55]	schestowitz-TR	and some other duse starves
[17:55]	schestowitz-TR	*dude
[17:56]	DaemonFC	With opportunities to dig through the trash and live in a tent under the L because there's no jobs an a micro apartment is $2,000.
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	MAGA and Change and Hope won't help these people
[17:57]	MinceR	MUGU
[17:57]	DaemonFC	Morons Are Governing America
[17:58]	MinceR	:>
[17:58]	DaemonFC	I'm going to vote Libertarian in the state elections next year.
[17:58]	DaemonFC	Governor Pritzker may win another term, but it won't be with my help.
[17:58]	DaemonFC	They can have my vote again when they start doing something that makes sense.
[17:59]	DaemonFC	At least with the Libertarians taxes and the cost of living would be lower, and there would be more jobs.
[17:59]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: bugga'
[17:59]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: mugga'
[17:59]	DaemonFC	It wouldn't be perfect. There would be inequality, but it wouldn't be as bad as it is now.
[17:59]	schestowitz-TR	get mugged by the MAGA MAFIA
● Oct 18
[18:00]	DaemonFC	They would lower the tax rate, sure, but they would also expect the rich to pay that tax rate.
[18:00]	DaemonFC	Not give them all sorts of subsidies that make their taxes less than zero.
[18:00]	DaemonFC	The Libertarian 10% flat tax would actually tax 10% of their income.
[18:00]	DaemonFC	Not -2 or -3%, which is what many of them pay under the Democrats and Republicans.
[18:01]	DaemonFC	It would actually lower inequality.
[18:01]	DaemonFC	The rich pay more, the middle class pays less.
[18:01]	DaemonFC	The poor pays about what they do now.
[18:02]	DaemonFC	The rates on the rich only LOOK higher right now.
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	they ''invest'
[18:03]	DaemonFC	They actually only pay 15%, at the most, on the bulk of their income, because it's taxed as Capital Gains, not "earned income" which would be almost double that.
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	in politicians
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	"campaign" "contributions"
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	bribery
[18:03]	DaemonFC	Right, the harder you worked for the money the more the feds come and fuck you hard to get it from you.
[18:04]	DaemonFC	And most people don't get it. I explained Capital Gains to mom and she was furious.
[18:04]	DaemonFC	She's like "You mean they get the investment money and and pay 15% while I work as a nurse and pay over 20%?".
[18:04]	DaemonFC	I said, "Yep.".
[18:05]	DaemonFC	Then I explained the Social Security taxable income cap.
[18:05]	DaemonFC	And that this is why there's a "funding shortfall".
[18:09]	techrights-news	#deleteyoutube Chris Titus Tech: I'm Done. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Y5ZbWVOcaaw
[18:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Im Done. - Invidious
[18:21]	techrights-news	#microsoft #windows is legacy OS, a 'rolling distro' that breaks itself https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/18/windows_printing/
[18:21]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/18/windows_printing/
[18:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft admits to yet more printing problems in Windows The Register
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[18:25]	MinceR	https://hugelolcdn.com/i/783678.jpg
[18:25]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/783678.jpg
[18:27]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156928 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
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[18:31]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: did you see tyhe DDG post?
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR	you might want to do a follow-up
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR	we need to ensure all DDG useds know what they are subjected to
[18:32]	DaemonFC	If you go to Improving DuckDuckGo's subdomain, it tells you basically what this guy said it was doing.
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	I didn't know that site even exists
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	and I bet very few USEDS of DDG know
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	so we need to make it widely known like Firefox "Telemetry"
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	Then Weinberg will be left Wining about a business he used to have
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	*Whining
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.eu/juanof9/status/1450143766002601988#m
[18:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Juan Ortiz Freuler (@juanof9): "If the goal is to develop ethical/legal standards and build corporate character, then we should only celebrate companies that do the right thing for the right reason. The rest are leaching on those who actually do things for the right reason. MSFT http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA" | nitter
[18:42]	DaemonFC	https://help.duckduckgo.com/privacy/atb/
[18:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-help.duckduckgo.com | Improving DuckDuckGo | DuckDuckGo Help Pages
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[18:51]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: NSA Improve
[18:51]	schestowitz-TR	Let's ask NSA what it spies for
[18:51]	schestowitz-TR	I'm sure we'll get a very honest answer...
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[18:57]	techrights-news	"Telemetry agent"... is this what #redhat will focus on under #ibm h #Surveillance stuff? https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/10/18/sensitive-information-detection-using-nvidia-morpheus-ai-framework
[18:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Sensitive information detection using the NVIDIA Morpheus AI framework | Red Hat Developer
● Oct 18
[19:01]	techrights-news	#ibm is #openwashing #surveillance in #clownComputing https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/contribute-to-a-new-open-source-cloud-guide/
[19:01]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/contribute-to-a-new-open-source-cloud-guide/
[19:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Use and contribute to a new Open Source Cloud Guide IBM Developer
[19:03]	techrights-news	#Gentoo -Based Porteus Kiosk 5.3 Released with Hardware Video Decoding, Virtual Keyboard http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156929 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo-Based Porteus Kiosk 5.3 Released with Hardware Video Decoding, Virtual Keyboard | Tux Machines
[19:03]	techrights-news	#IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156930 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[19:06]	techrights-news	Bad: #Fingerprint biometrics and IDV set for rapid growth, big players consider #blockchain | Biometric Update https://www.biometricupdate.com/202110/fingerprint-biometrics-and-idv-set-for-rapid-growth-big-players-consider-blockchain #biometricupdate
[19:06]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: biometricupdate.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.biometricupdate.com/202110/fingerprint-biometrics-and-idv-set-for-rapid-growth-big-players-consider-blockchain
[19:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.biometricupdate.com | Fingerprint biometrics and IDV set for rapid growth, big players consider blockchain | Biometric Update
[19:08]	techrights-news	PinePhone Pro is an Affordable Linux Flagship Smartphone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156817#comment-31433
[19:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Pro Linux Smartphone Unveiled with 4GB RAM, Custom Rockchip SoC | Tux Machines
[19:11]	techrights-news	Today, #postgres site is shilling a dying platform, #microsoft #azure (losses and layoffs). What money does to projects.... http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/ #postgresql #psal
[19:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure Stagnating | Techrights
[19:15]	techrights-news	"We cover what's special about Plasma's 25th-anniversary edition, chat with CloudLinux's CEO, and detail why Apple supporting Blender is good for all of us." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146467/linux-action-news-211/
[19:15]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146467/linux-action-news-211/
[19:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 211 | Jupiter Broadcasting
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[19:59]	techrights-news	#Ubuntu Studio: #UbuntuStudio 21.10 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31435
[19:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
● Oct 18
[20:01]	techrights-news	#Lubuntu 21.10 (Impish Indri) Released! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31436
[20:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
[20:03]	techrights-news	WP Briefing: Episode 18: The Economics of #WordPress https://wordpress.org/news/2021/10/episode-18-the-economics-of-wordpress/
[20:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News Episode 18: The Economics of WordPress WordPress.org
[20:08]	schestowitz	hmmm
[20:08]	schestowitz	lxer putting spam/ads http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=306553
[20:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | This Linux and Git training can be a big step in your web development career
[20:08]	schestowitz	do they check what they link to?
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[20:11]	techrights-news	#RaspberryPi CM4 handheld console looks like a Nintendo Switch Lite - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/18/raspberry-pi-cm4-handheld-console-nintendo-switch-lite-clone/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware
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[20:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Raspberry Pi CM4 handheld console looks like a Nintendo Switch Lite - CNX Software
[20:13]	techrights-news	#OpenBSD 7.0 adds 64-bit RISC-V, improves Apple Arm silicon support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156792#comment-31437
[20:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenBSD 7.0 | Tux Machines
[20:14]	techrights-news	There is no "Ubuntu 20" https://thehackernews.com/2021/10/windows-10-linux-ios-chrome-and-many.html
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[20:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Windows 10, Linux, iOS, Chrome and Many Others at Hacked Tianfu Cup 2021
[20:17]	techrights-news	Nice project, needs to #deletegithub though https://hackaday.com/2021/10/18/play-doom-using-web-browser-checkboxes-finally/ #microsoft #monopoly #ProprietarySoftware
[20:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Play DOOM Using Web Browser Checkboxes (Finally) | Hackaday
[20:17]	DaemonFC	Intel removed support for Medfield and Moorestown on Linux 5.13.
[20:17]	techrights-news	Audiocasts/Shows: WordPress, Linux Action News, Scams, and Fake Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156931 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: WordPress, Linux Action News, Scams, and Fake Security | Tux Machines
[20:17]	DaemonFC	Those are the GPUs on some Atom processors from around 2011 which were intended to compete with ARM on phones and tablets.
[20:18]	psydruid	oh, great
[20:18]	psydruid	so Intel is making hardware obsolete by taking support out of the kernel now
[20:18]	techrights-news	Cheaper than cheap: #HarmonyOS development board shows up for $11 https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/18/harmonyos-development-board/
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[20:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | HarmonyOS development board shows up for $11 - CNX Software
[20:19]	DaemonFC	The commit said "Apparently there are no users left.".
[20:19]	techrights-news	#ArduinoNano Floppy Emulator For When Your Disk Is Not Accessible | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/17/arduino-nano-floppy-emulator-for-when-your-disk-is-not-accessible/ #Arduino
[20:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arduino Nano Floppy Emulator For When Your Disk Is Not Accessible | Hackaday
[20:19]	psydruid	"Apparently we aren't earning any money on that hardware anymore"
[20:20]	DaemonFC	"System baseline power is estimated at 2.03 W"
[20:20]	DaemonFC	Power est.    Usage     Device name
[20:20]	DaemonFC	  2.45 W      8.4%        CPU misc
[20:20]	DaemonFC	  191 mW      8.4%        CPU core
[20:20]	psydruid	I wonder if they will play such tricks with newer platforms such as the one for this Celeron N3060 too
[20:20]	schestowitz-TR	exactly
[20:20]	schestowitz-TR	Linux is becoming rusty
[20:20]	schestowitz-TR	not Rusty
[20:21]	schestowitz-TR	just rusty
[20:21]	schestowitz-TR	removing old but useful things
[20:21]	schestowitz-TR	adding azure crapo
[20:21]	schestowitz-TR	even for proprietary software
[20:21]	schestowitz-TR	they set a flag it it
[20:21]	schestowitz-TR	bribe Zemlin and his Sunshine Boys
[20:21]	schestowitz-TR	and do whatever the f* they want
[20:21]	DaemonFC	Removing hardware from 10 years ago that didn't sell that you couldn't run anything you put on it isn't exactly unreasonable.
[20:21]	schestowitz-TR	even removing members of the community they don't like
[20:21]	schestowitz-TR	and forcing Linus to issue an apology
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR	then go totherapists he does not need
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR	he has important work to do
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: they have users
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR	they have no buyers
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR	they care about buters
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR	clients
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR	not users
[20:23]	DaemonFC	My last two laptops have been all Intel.
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR	I assure you some devices still exist out there with those chips
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR	maybe Intel is not seeing them
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR	myself and others still use Palm OS
[20:23]	psydruid	all my laptops ever have been Intel
[20:23]	DaemonFC	They work okay out of the box except for LOL! No! Vo sabotaging and bungling the uEFI firmware.
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR	but HP/LG is not aware
[20:23]	DaemonFC	Other than that, they work fine.
[20:24]	DaemonFC	"<schestowitz-TR> I assure you some devices still exist out there with those chips"
[20:24]	DaemonFC	They'll go on working for quite some time.
[20:24]	psydruid	I would like some other ones, but those are either sold out, inexistent or craptastic
[20:24]	DaemonFC	Rocky Linux 8 and Debian 11 are going to be around for a while.
[20:24]	DaemonFC	If you stick to the Linux 5.10 kernel in Debian 11, the hardware that was removed later on will work.
[20:25]	DaemonFC	Debian 11 has nearly 5 years of support.
[20:25]	DaemonFC	That would make the graphics in those Atom processors 15 years old.
[20:25]	techrights-news	#intel now removes from the #kernel support for #hardware it was selling only one decade ago! WTH is wrong with #linux priorities? #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware OK, #freesw not OK????
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	psydruid: can be sold cheaply
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	second hand
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	and modernised with new OS
[20:26]	psydruid	so I have a Bay Trail and a Braswell laptop here
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	10 years ago PCs were already very powerful
[20:26]	schestowitz-TR	1990s not so much...
[20:26]	psydruid	I'm going to count down the years
[20:29]	techrights-news	Similac Introduces New Ghost Pepper Infant Formula https://www.theonion.com/similac-introduces-new-ghost-pepper-infant-formula-1847864335 #theonion #satire
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[20:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Similac Introduces New Ghost Pepper Infant Formula
[20:31]	techrights-news	VKD3D-Proton 2.5 Released With Experimental DXR 1.1, More Games Working - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=VKD3D-Proton-2.5 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/18/#latest
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[20:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VKD3D-Proton 2.5 Released With Experimental DXR 1.1, More Games Working - Phoronix
[20:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[20:33]	techrights-news	"it runs excellently on Linux in Steam Proton compatibility mode." https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/review-timberborn-colonysim.html
[20:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Timberborn: a cute beaver colony sim with an unrewarding late game
[20:34]	techrights-news	Swarming RTS Age of Darkness: Final Stand is in Early Access and works great on Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/swarming-rts-age-of-darkness-final-stand-is-in-early-access-and-works-great-on-linux #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
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[20:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Swarming RTS Age of Darkness: Final Stand is in Early Access and works great on Linux | GamingOnLinux
[20:35]	techrights-news	In #valve the term "Verified" means #gnu #linux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/valve-launches-deck-verified-to-show-off-what-games-will-work-well-on-the-steam-deck
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[20:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve launches Deck Verified, to show off what games will work well on the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
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[20:36]	techrights-news	Playing Deltarune: Chapter 2 natively on Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/playing-deltarune-chapter-2-natively-on-linux #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
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[20:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Playing Deltarune: Chapter 2 natively on Linux | GamingOnLinux
[20:37]	techrights-news	"For the PC release the developer now has a #Steam page live and they've confirmed it will have a native #GNU #Linux version." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/hugely-popular-mobile-roguelike-shattered-pixel-dungeon-is-coming-to-steam
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[20:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hugely popular mobile roguelike Shattered Pixel Dungeon is coming to Steam | GamingOnLinux
[20:40]	techrights-news	#Linux #Kernel #Concurrency Cheat Sheet https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/linux-kernel-concurrency-cheat-sheet
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[20:42]	DaemonFC	I had to play "find a coupon" at the pharmacy.
[20:42]	DaemonFC	GoodRX wants you to install their app.
[20:42]	DaemonFC	Eventually, you can find the correct coupon on the mobile website though.
[20:43]	DaemonFC	This wasn't a very expensive drug. The doctor prescribed some amoxicillin to prevent infection.
[20:43]	DaemonFC	CVS said retail was like $18, but a GoodRX coupon got it down to $8.50.
[20:44]	DaemonFC	Those apps and their coupons are crazy because what you don't see in the background is that they charge the pharmacy like $1.50-2 to take the coupon, which forces the pharmacy to give you a lower price.
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[20:45]	DaemonFC	The pharmacy has no choice because it's signed a contract with the Pharmacy Benefit Managers that GoodRX goes through, which are the ones that negotiate drug prices that insurers pay to the pharmacy.
[20:45]	techrights-news	#Kernel prepatch 5.15-rc6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156914#comment-31438 #linux #gpl
[20:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.15-rc6 | Tux Machines
[20:46]	DaemonFC	So GoodRX "hacked the system" because it was designed so that people would go in there and use their insurance card and get their in-network price, but then you can go through GoodRX, which works with tons of PBMs, tell it which drug, what dose, and brand or generic, and it will ask like 100 PBMs what their prices are for each pharmacy in the area.
[20:46]	techrights-news	#AMD Secure [sic] Memory #Encryption Has a Flaw, Now Disabled by Default in #Linux #Kernel https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-memory-encryption-disabled-in-linux
[20:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | AMD Secure Memory Encryption Has a Flaw, Now Disabled by Default in Linux Kernel | Tom's Hardware
[20:46]	DaemonFC	Then you get a "code" that's "optimized" for that store and the drug you need.
[20:46]	techrights-news	Devices: Arduino Nano, HarmonyOS,and Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156932 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Arduino Nano, HarmonyOS,and Pi | Tux Machines
[20:47]	DaemonFC	But it confuses the hell out of people and they stand there and argue with the pharmacist because they'll do stupid things like put in the wrong dose, or the wrong type or quantity. Like ear drops instead of eye drops.
[20:47]	techrights-news	#Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156933 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:47]	DaemonFC	Then they'll "demand to see the manager".
[20:47]	techrights-news	#Games: Valve, Timberborn, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156934 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Valve, Timberborn, and More | Tux Machines
[20:47]	DaemonFC	My mom is one of those. She asked me why the stupid thing never worked right and I had to tell her "You're using it wrong.".
[20:48]	DaemonFC	The whole system stinks, but you can't not use it, unless you want to pay 2-5 times as much for your pills that month.
[20:50]	DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu2110-wayland-xorg&num=1
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[20:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu 21.10 Radeon Gaming With KDE Plasma vs. GNOME Shell + Wayland vs. X.Org - Phoronix
[20:51]	DaemonFC	Does it matter for gaming if you use GNOME or KDE, Xorg or Wayland? Not really.
[20:51]	DaemonFC	It used to.
[20:51]	schestowitz-TR	not much
[20:51]	schestowitz-TR	over time the DE is lack of a drag on a relative scale
[20:52]	schestowitz-TR	I told michael that like 14 years ago
[20:52]	schestowitz-TR	in digg.com era
[20:52]	schestowitz-TR	the benchmarks need to simulate actual use cases
[20:52]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, What do you think about the pine phone pro?
[20:52]	schestowitz-TR	not some cpu-intensive something in the CLI
[20:52]	schestowitz-TR	but that takes more actual work
[20:52]	DaemonFC	They're going to be $399 and Amazon is offering me a $200 gift card for this Galaxy phone.
[20:52]	schestowitz-TR	simulating real workloads
[20:52]	DaemonFC	Which is half of what I paid for it last year, but I'm considering it.
[20:52]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: it's a phone
[20:52]	schestowitz-TR	that means, "no"
[20:53]	DaemonFC	The stupid thing barely even works at all.
[20:53]	schestowitz-TR	for what?
[20:53]	schestowitz-TR	calls?
[20:53]	DaemonFC	When it can get a network signal, it's Samsung wanting me to agree to a new EULA or use Microsoft.
[20:53]	schestowitz-TR	tracking?
[20:53]	schestowitz-TR	crAPPS?
[20:53]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: Microsoft loves Linux patents
[20:53]	schestowitz-TR	it lets them grab Samsung by the balls
[20:53]	schestowitz-TR	it already grabs Zemlin by the balls
[20:53]	schestowitz-TR	if he has any left
[20:54]	psydruid	this Samsung phone I have here is full of crapware
[20:54]	schestowitz-TR	Linus has none
[20:54]	psydruid	it's my mom's old phone
[20:54]	DaemonFC	In the past 5 years, Samsung phones have gone from a couple of crapplets, just disable them, whatever, to an entire phone screaming at you that you MUST use Microsoft products.
[20:54]	schestowitz-TR	Linus is white and Nordic, so he's already as guilty as it can get
[20:54]	schestowitz-TR	in fact, someone refused to talk to me because of Linus
[20:54]	schestowitz-TR	whom I don't even support that much
[20:55]	schestowitz-TR	I think he sold us out
[20:55]	schestowitz-TR	but he's white and male
[20:55]	DaemonFC	Also, with Facebook "services" running in the background, spying on you even if you don't have Facebook.
[20:55]	schestowitz-TR	hence, sexist
[20:55]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: yes, samsung and Microsoft settled around 2015
[20:55]	schestowitz-TR	I think Microsoft sued that year
[20:55]	schestowitz-TR	under "good" Nadella
[20:55]	schestowitz-TR	and then Samsung settled 
[20:56]	schestowitz-TR	"peace" for bundling
[20:56]	psydruid	and Samsung executives have no balls either
[20:56]	schestowitz-TR	Microsoft is still a diurty mafia
[20:56]	schestowitz-TR	and the media is bribed not to talk about or investigate this
[20:56]	schestowitz-TR	"big tech"
[20:56]	schestowitz-TR	all the companies exc. Micropsopft
[20:56]	schestowitz-TR	"big tech" = defined by Microsoft lobbyists
[20:56]	psydruid	if the entire tech industry sued the Microsoft mafia, even Microsoft would go out of business
[20:56]	schestowitz-TR	psydruid: they don't know the meaning of the word
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	FSF is eerily quiet too
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	notice how much it took them to respond to hostile moves like "copilot" and shithub
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	they never wrote about npm
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	hibernating
[20:58]	techrights-news	#Linux #Kernel : #AMD, Concurrency Cheat Sheet, Habana Labs, and Mesa http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156935 #TuxMachines
[20:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: AMD, Concurrency Cheat Sheet, Habana Labs, and Mesa | Tux Machines
[20:58]		*schestowitz-TR finalises videos and articles about austria
● Oct 18
[21:04]	techrights-news	Links 18/10/2021: Porteus Kiosk 5.3 and Ventoy 1.0.55 http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/porteus-kiosk-5-3/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/18/porteus-kiosk-5-3/
[21:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/10/2021: Porteus Kiosk 5.3 and Ventoy 1.0.55 | Techrights
[21:05]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/18/amazon-offered-me-half-of-what-i-paid-for-my-galaxy-s20-fe-5g-the-phone-is-so-awful-that-im-considering-it/
[21:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Amazon offered me half of what I paid for my Galaxy S20 FE 5G. The phone is so awful that Im considering it. BaronHK's Rants
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	amazon??
[21:08]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it's a quick way to get out of a bad phone.
[21:08]	techrights-news	5 Best GNOME Shell Extensions for Your Linux Desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156936 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Best GNOME Shell Extensions for Your Linux Desktop | Tux Machines
[21:08]	DaemonFC	They pay more than those ghetto vending machines down at the mall or Walmart.
[21:08]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: you get out of nothing by getting such a device
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	I could go on and on about what's bad other than the spying
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	you're much better off blogging and dining and cooking
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	those devices are no good
[21:09]		*schestowitz-TR dislikes most things labeled "Smart" to appeal to gullible people
[21:10]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: want to read my latest draft?
[21:11]	schestowitz-TR	yapping on "phones" with "apps" is very 1980s
[21:13]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, That truck simulator is pretty nice.
[21:13]	schestowitz-TR	yes
[21:13]	schestowitz-TR	seems so
[21:13]	DaemonFC	I had to figure out the proper settings for the XBOX 360 controller though.
[21:13]	schestowitz-TR	they have editions
[21:13]	DaemonFC	Wine appears to have some sort of bug now that doesn't let it read into your home folder.
[21:13]	DaemonFC	Other than .wine.
[21:14]	DaemonFC	So I ended up deleting the "Music" folder that it had under .wine and symlinking it, to fix foobar2000 not finding any files to play.
[21:14]	schestowitz-TR	play native games
[21:15]	DaemonFC	You mean give up on my pile-o-warez?
[21:16]	schestowitz-TR	ah
[21:16]	schestowitz-TR	I thought you had bought these
[21:16]	DaemonFC	I hack on Wine to get them to run.
[21:16]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: can you have a quick read?
[21:17]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/austrian-double-dipper-rude-liar/
[21:17]	DaemonFC	Trust fund babies get to use Proton!
[21:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XVI: The Demise of the Austrian Double-Dipper | Techrights
[21:17]	schestowitz	tons of work into this one
[21:19]	DaemonFC	They charge what I justt paid for the first round of Mandy's dentistry so you can pretend to mow a lawn.
[21:19]	DaemonFC	It's pretty sad, really.
[21:20]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Bloated salaries propped up by "user fees".
[21:20]	techrights-news	The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XVI: The Demise of the Austrian Double-Dipper http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/austrian-double-dipper-rude-liar/ #Austria #Europe #EPO #Patents #Corruption
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: yes
[21:21]	DaemonFC	If they start denying bogus patents, less "user fees" because patent trolls won't apply just to get denied.
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	and "renewals"
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	or "searches"
[21:21]	DaemonFC	The US FDA works like this.
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	it's designed to favour the rich
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	more so over time
[21:21]	DaemonFC	Tobacco companies: Can we kill Americans?
[21:22]	DaemonFC	FDA: Depends on how much you're offering us.
[21:22]	DaemonFC	Pfizer: Can we inject Americans with mystery shit and say it's a COVID vaccine?
[21:22]	DaemonFC	FDA: Sure. Pay up!
[21:23]	schestowitz	we had 50k more cases today
[21:23]	schestowitz	country of 68 million people
[21:23]	schestowitz	that's one in 1000
[21:23]	schestowitz	in one day!!
[21:23]	schestowitz	https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
[21:23]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: worldometers.info | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
[21:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | COVID Live Update: 241,738,628 Cases and 4,917,871 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer
[21:24]	schestowitz	Florida is doing great
[21:24]	schestowitz	great coverup
[21:24]	schestowitz	https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
[21:24]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: worldometers.info | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
[21:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | United States COVID: 45,814,086 Cases and 744,947 Deaths - Worldometer
[21:24]	DaemonFC	"pyhrric victory"
[21:24]	DaemonFC	Like my win in traffic court.
[21:24]	schestowitz	some days they have 0 cases
[21:24]	DaemonFC	I lost $400 defending myself from additional damages from the state.
[21:24]	schestowitz	like china and north korea
[21:25]	DaemonFC	The state would have taken what my attorney charged me.
[21:25]	DaemonFC	Then the insurance peopel would hear about it and tack on another 33% to my car insurance premiums for 5 years.
[21:25]	DaemonFC	*people
[21:25]	DaemonFC	It's hardly even the fine you're fighting off. It's to kill it before the insurance company gets wind of it.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	If you mail in the check for the fine, it's $164 because they don't add "court costs", which you will pay if you lose.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	But then you get 5 years of increased premiums for sure.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	$15 a month for 5 years. And that's on top of what I pay now for liability on a heap of crap.
[21:27]	DaemonFC	If you admit the accusation it'll be three times worse than paying the attorney (assuming you win).
[21:27]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I may use one of those lawyer apps next time.
[21:28]	DaemonFC	There's this one that says you pay based on results.
[21:28]	DaemonFC	If you don't get at least a settlement, you don't pay the lawyer.
[21:28]	DaemonFC	If you get a settlement, you pay a fraction of the "beat the ticket" price the lawyer could charge.
[21:28]	DaemonFC	If you beat the ticket, you pay the lawyer the full amount.
[21:29]	DaemonFC	They risk very little.
[21:29]	DaemonFC	Most people take a settlement and end up owing 60-80% of the full fee.
[21:30]	DaemonFC	The state asked us if we would settle. I said I'd like to wait to see if the state could produce its witnesses.
[21:30]	DaemonFC	So I waited for about an hour and finally the state gave up and motioned the judge to dismiss it.
[21:31]	DaemonFC	"double-dipping at the expense of the taxpayer"
[21:31]	DaemonFC	Mostly at the expense of the people who buy the stuff covered under the patents.
[21:31]	DaemonFC	Which is an invisible tax.
[21:31]	DaemonFC	Most people paid for MP3 licenses about 20-30 times over.
[21:32]	DaemonFC	My theory went "Well, since this computer came with Windows and I was forced to pay for an MP3 license then, I don't owe you anything for adding an MP3 codec to my GNU/Linux distribution.".
[21:33]	DaemonFC	These patents force GNU/Linux distros to ship a broken operating system and make the user figure it out later.
[21:33]	schestowitz	otherwise it's "theft"
[21:33]	schestowitz	"intellectual" PROPERTY :)
[21:34]	techrights-news	The World Needs to Know What Many Austrians Already Know About Rude Liar, the Notorious Double-Dipper http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/rude-liar-in-austria/ #Austria #Europe #EPO #Patents #Corruption
[21:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The World Needs to Know What Many Austrians Already Know About Rude Liar, the Notorious Double-Dipper | Techrights
[21:34]	DaemonFC	I have to say I was surprised to see Debian has encumbered media codecs.
[21:34]	DaemonFC	Fedora never shipped those at all.
[21:34]	DaemonFC	You could add them from RPM Fusion though.
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	IBM <3 swpats
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	mp3 without licence = PRIVACY ;-)
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	I mean, PIRACY
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	I keep seeing names of people who left red hat
[21:37]	DaemonFC	For a while, Fedora shipped MP3 via the Fluendo codec.
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	planet fedora is practically dead
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	red hat is blown to bits and buzzwords
[21:37]	DaemonFC	But they had to include Fluendo's binary.
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	oh, I forgot about Fluendo...
[21:38]	DaemonFC	The patent holders wouldn't let them authorize Fedora to compile the source code themselves.
[21:38]	DaemonFC	So the source code was Free, but Fluendo had to compile it, and potentially stick god knows what in there.
[21:38]	schestowitz-TR	where is 'linux' foundation?
[21:38]	DaemonFC	And then Fedora shoves it out to you.
[21:38]	schestowitz-TR	where is zemlin in all this?
[21:38]	schestowitz-TR	diddling with his hypePad?
[21:38]	schestowitz-TR	busy spreading linux "security risk" FUD?
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	concern-trolling the very thing his fake body is named after?
[21:39]	DaemonFC	I'm paying the dentist through one of our cards that doubles our cash back through the end of the year.
[21:39]	DaemonFC	Ought to be able to rack up some points like this.
[21:40]	DaemonFC	By that time, 2/3rds or more of the work will be done. Ought to be good for a $30-40 bonus from the credit card people.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	I'm doing this PAYGO. They asked if I wanted to pay the estimated amount up front.
[21:41]	schestowitz	https://www.howtogeek.com/762256/windows-11-adds-a-great-feature-from-linuxs-kde-desktop/
[21:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | Windows 11 Adds a Great Feature From Linuxs KDE Desktop
[21:41]	schestowitz	yawn
[21:41]	schestowitz	adds?
[21:41]	DaemonFC	Like, uh, no. I'm not paying you for work unperformed so something can happen halfway in and you're holding on to $1,500 for my money.
[21:41]	schestowitz	stealls?
[21:41]	schestowitz	copies?
[21:41]	schestowitz	wigh
[21:41]	DaemonFC	While I have to find another dentist. :P
[21:42]	DaemonFC	*of my money
[21:43]	DaemonFC	She seems nice though.
[21:43]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, back to tech
[21:43]	DaemonFC	Whenever there comes a question of what to do, she seems to err on the side of doing less if possible. I like that. I mean, dirty dentists who do a lot of unnecessary work are literally everywhere.
[21:44]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, One last thing though.
[21:44]	DaemonFC	The dentistry in the Philippines is piss poor.
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	back to tech
[21:44]	DaemonFC	Among the dead roots she pulled out today was a piece of broken tooth.
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	I cannot focus on many topics at once
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	we have other channels for this purpose
[21:44]	DaemonFC	They just left it there and called it a day.
[21:45]	DaemonFC	I've noticed the dental schools tend to have newer technology than the dentist offices.
[21:45]	DaemonFC	But I don't think that matters as much as experience.
[21:45]	techrights-news	What #mozilla and #canonical have done to #ubuntu and #firefox ... https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/10/prevent-installing-firefox-snap-ubuntu-mate-21-10/
[21:45]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntuhandbook.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/10/prevent-installing-firefox-snap-ubuntu-mate-21-10/
[21:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuhandbook.org | Prevent Software Updater Installing Firefox Snap in Ubuntu MATE 21.10 | UbuntuHandbook
[21:45]	DaemonFC	When it comes to healthcare, I like good old fashioned honest medicine.
[21:46]	DaemonFC	Not this "Oh, you need a digital eye exam and that costs 5 times as much because computer!"
[21:46]		*schestowitz-TR will come back to the channel when it's on topic
[21:47]	DaemonFC	Ubuntu managed to make Firefox even worse with Snap.
[21:47]	DaemonFC	These things are like abominably slow to load up.
[21:47]	MinceR	(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/MESVtfx
[21:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cats Dump: Types of Eaters - Album on Imgur
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[21:47]	DaemonFC	It's just fucking stupid is what it is.
[21:47]	DaemonFC	Flatpaks barely take up any time to load.
[21:47]	DaemonFC	I don't know why Snaps are so much worse.
[21:48]	DaemonFC	I mean, I should have my calculator pop up when I push the button, not 6 seconds later because of Snap.
[21:48]	techrights-news	"In this video, I am going to show an overview of #Ubuntu #Kylin 21.10 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Qfzom9DreuY #gnu #linux #china
[21:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux overview | Ubuntu Kylin 21.10 - Invidious
[21:48]	DaemonFC	A distribution going 100% Flatpak wouldn't be a terrible idea.
[21:49]	DaemonFC	I mean, the platform Flatpaks would be there, so there's shared resources between like, GNOME and its programs again.
[21:49]	DaemonFC	Fedora does have their own Flatpak repos.
[21:49]	DaemonFC	You do not have to use Flathub, although you can.
[21:50]	DaemonFC	Out of the box, the only thing it's configured to use is Fedora's.
[21:50]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156937 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[21:50]	DaemonFC	"Windows 11 Adds a Great Feature From Linuxs KDE Desktop"
[21:51]	MinceR	lol
[21:51]	DaemonFC	The entire thing, only with ads and spyware, and more bugs because of Microsoft.
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR	"Adds"
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR	robber adds TV from home
[21:52]		*schestowitz-TR goes to add cooffee
[21:53]	DaemonFC	Microsoft adds value if your definition of that is ads, spam, spyware, and MOAR bugs.
[21:54]	DaemonFC	On the bugs front, I haven't come across anything in Vivaldi that seems excessively buggy.
[21:56]	DaemonFC	I was thinking earlier about how fast their mail client is.
[21:56]	DaemonFC	I don't like webmail.
[21:56]	DaemonFC	It's bloated. Google has "Promotions" as if it was a mail folder, and it's fucking Capital One wanting you to get a credit card or something.
[21:56]	DaemonFC	Microsoft says "It looks liek you're blocking our ads, so to get rid of this dead panel that takes up space, pay us $10 a month for Outlook Premium!".
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[22:02]		*DaemonFC (~daemonfc@z9q6pbfu32ayw.irc) has joined #techrights
[22:04]	schestowitz-TR	nokia trash can failing still?
[22:07]	DaemonFC	You guessed her, Chester.
[22:08]	techrights-news	Hilariously bad marketing from #ibm (of mostly #securityTheatre in this case) https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/protecting-and-storing-data-for-a-mobile-bank-app/
[22:08]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/protecting-and-storing-data-for-a-mobile-bank-app/
[22:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Protecting and storing data for a mobile bank app IBM Developer
[22:08]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2021/10/15/1046371801/health-insurance-terms-defined-open-enrollment
[22:08]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2021/10/15/1046371801/health-insurance-terms-defined-open-enrollment
[22:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Health insurance terms to know as open enrollment begins : Life Kit : NPR
[22:09]	DaemonFC	Applying for health insurance doesn't need to be confusing. Chances are, Obamacare ran all but two or three of them out of your county anyway. -NPR
[22:10]	DaemonFC	Also, tax credits where you can guess wrong or forget to update the exchange and then owe the IRS $5,000 at the end of the year.
[22:10]	DaemonFC	What's hard about that? -NPR
[22:10]	techrights-news	#banking should not at all be done from "mobile" or "apps" because there's no room for #backdoors in financial transactions. But try telling that to governments which MANDATE back doors and pretend it's somehow possible to have security at the SAME TIME. Or officials who say that only criminals need #encryption (yes, banksters do need transactional security).
[22:11]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Opus is really good for classical music. It compresses well anyway.
[22:11]	DaemonFC	Rarely does WavPack do much worse than 650 kbps or so.
[22:11]	DaemonFC	You can use 64 kbps Opus and it'll still sound fine.
[22:11]	techrights-news	"The #Missouri governor wants to prosecute the reporter who discovered a security vulnerability in a states website, and then reported it to the state." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/10/the-missouri-governor-doesnt-understand-responsible-disclosure.html
[22:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Missouri Governor Doesnt Understand Responsible Disclosure - Schneier on Security
[22:12]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I'm still not happy with what they did to Vorbis.
[22:12]	DaemonFC	AoTuV showed that even Vorbis isn't necessarily bitrate starved at the lower settings.
[22:12]	techrights-news	"The newspaper agreed to hold off publishing any story while the department fixed the problem and protected the private information of teachers around the state." https://missouriindependent.com/2021/10/14/missouri-governor-vows-criminal-prosecution-of-reporter-who-found-flaw-in-state-website/
[22:12]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: missouriindependent.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://missouriindependent.com/2021/10/14/missouri-governor-vows-criminal-prosecution-of-reporter-who-found-flaw-in-state-website/
[22:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-missouriindependent.com | Missouri governor vows criminal prosecution of reporter who found flaw in state website Missouri Independent
[22:12]	DaemonFC	Windows 10 added Vorbis playback.
[22:12]	DaemonFC	At the end of 2019.
[22:13]	DaemonFC	20 years after the format was announced and 19 years after the bitstream was frozen.
[22:13]	DaemonFC	It wasn't developed in the span of 1 year. It was started under an experimental project called Ogg Squish.
[22:14]	DaemonFC	So a lot of it was actually done already by 1999.
[22:14]	DaemonFC	Internally, I think there's a few areas in the source code where it refers to OggSquish.
[22:14]	techrights-news	#apple 2021: we'll scan and report your files to the #police when you save them. 2022: when you open them/play them? 2023: when you copy them to another device? We all see where this is going...
[22:15]	AdmFubar	Ogg Squish sound something like a knuckle dragging bug hunter does...
[22:15]	DaemonFC	Also, odd, is that the decoding side was improved a lot a couple of years back.
[22:15]	DaemonFC	Those vector codebooks at the beginning of each file that take a few KB packed....that use up a lot of memory (on embedded devices it is)......
[22:16]	DaemonFC	They improved that dramatically, *after* declaring the format deprecated.
[22:16]	DaemonFC	Opus went back to using a static prediction model like MP3 and AAC.
[22:16]	DaemonFC	Which is kind of odd now.
[22:17]	DaemonFC	Even small computers have tons of memory, and they could have kept the arbitrary and unique vector codebooks feature from Vorbis and not been worse off in any way people care about now.
[22:17]	techrights-news	Ransom:Win32/BlackMatter.PA!MTB #microsoft #windows #windowsKills #boycottWindows #boycottMicrosoft https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/10/18/cisa-fbi-and-nsa-release-joint-cybersecurity-advisory-blackmatter
[22:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | CISA, FBI, and NSA Release Joint Cybersecurity Advisory on BlackMatter Ransomware | CISA
[22:18]	DaemonFC	Overall, Opus is the better format, but not as much as Xiph and Mozilla and Google want you to believe.
[22:18]	techrights-news	2020: Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing #Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ #Techrights #winodws #microsoft| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/
[22:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights
[22:18]	DaemonFC	The AoTuV Vorbis Encoder is still excellent despite the format's age.
[22:18]	DaemonFC	One of the few serious limitations of Vorbis is the algorithmic delay.
[22:19]	techrights-news	IFF writes to Google India regarding copyright strikes. https://internetfreedom.in/iff-writes-to-google-india-about-recent-instances-of-youtube-copyright-strikes/ #internetfreedom #google #censorship #gulag #socialcontrol
[22:19]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/iff-writes-to-google-india-about-recent-instances-of-youtube-copyright-strikes/
[22:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | IFF writes to Google India regarding copyright strikes.
[22:19]	DaemonFC	But that actually could have been fixed with a new profile meant just for people using it in a Low Delay mode.
[22:19]	DaemonFC	AAC has such a profile.
[22:20]	DaemonFC	On the decoder side, you could have support for the additional Low Delay Vorbis profile, so either format works and the user doesn't care.
[22:20]	techrights-news	"Hello and welcome to Episode 436 of Linux in the Ham Shack. In this short-topics episode, the hosts discuss an ARDC grant for high school STEM students, a pair of intrepid amateur radio hobbyists, state-sponsored ARCs in Africa, Ubuntu 21.10..." https://lhspodcast.info/2021/10/lhs-episode-436-bowling-for-ham-radio-2/
[22:20]	DaemonFC	So really there was no need to start over except the CADT model has open source people scrapping everything and starting over.
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[22:21]	techrights-news	#MicrosoftTim knows that nobody at #Microsoft will ever be arrested for deliberate negligence and for serving #malware https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/18/microsoft_malware_brand/
[22:21]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/18/microsoft_malware_brand/
[22:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft branded 'best malware hoster'. Why? OneDrive abuse The Register
[22:21]	DaemonFC	MP3 files have several different possible profiles.
[22:21]	DaemonFC	It's just that nobody cares because the decoders will play all of them.
[22:22]	techrights-news	Want to break the law and stay our of jail? Join #microsoft today! http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/
[22:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights
[22:22]	AdmFubar	https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/10/18/facebook_metaverse/
[22:22]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/10/18/facebook_metaverse/
[22:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Facebook hiring 10,000 in EU to 'build the metaverse' The Register
[22:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, According to Microsoft, my Samsung phone has been checking in with OneDrive even though I disabled the OneDrive app.
[22:23]	techrights-news	Greedy sociopaths oughtnt be put in charge of #patent offices; this is whats dooming the #EPO in recent years (all they think about is money) http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/money-and-patents/ #Techrights #patents #austria | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/18/money-and-patents/
[22:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] More to Life Than Patents | Techrights
[22:23]	DaemonFC	It pings their server about every day and that gets logged as a security event.
[22:23]	schestowitz-TR	get rid of the 'phone'
[22:23]	schestowitz-TR	this is what toilet bowls are for
[22:23]	schestowitz-TR	although I recommend responsible disposal
[22:25]	AdmFubar	get tracker control.. at least if you are on a droid type phone... you can block outbound connections with it..
[22:25]	DaemonFC	I got a hit from the KMeleon browser's website.
[22:26]	techrights-news	Friedrich Rude Liar Rdler is notorious in the eyes of #EPO staff, whom he was slandering and scandalising for ages while he himself was the real scandal http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/austrian-double-dipper-rude-liar/ #Techrights #corruption #austria #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/18/austrian-double-dipper-rude-liar/
[22:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XVI: The Demise of the Austrian Double-Dipper | Techrights
[22:26]	techrights-news	Dash to Dock is Finally Available for GNOME 40 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156938 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dash to Dock is Finally Available for GNOME 40 | Tux Machines
[22:27]	techrights-news	Today we publish many translations (from German) about the #Austria double-dipper, who already became the subject of unfavourable press coverage in his home country http://techrights.org/2021/10/18/rude-liar-in-austria/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/18/rude-liar-in-austria/
[22:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The World Needs to Know What Many Austrians Already Know About Rude Liar, the Notorious Double-Dipper | Techrights
[22:29]	techrights-news	#RMS gives talk in #Montpellier #France end of this week for Francophone crowd (last talk in his tour) https://stallman.org/talks.html
[22:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman
[22:30]	techrights-news	Tomorrow #techrights will hammer #denmark for its #epo -connected #corruption (lots of that!!). #dk
[22:33]	techrights-news	"When building your own homebrew computer, everything is a challenge. Ultimately, thats kind of the point. If you didnt want to really get your hands dirty with the nuts and bolts of the thing, you wouldnt have built it in the first place." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/18/arduino-brings-usb-mouse-to-homebrew-computer/
[22:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arduino Brings USB Mouse To Homebrew Computer | Hackaday
[22:34]	techrights-news	#greenwashing of #milk will be a growing problem, plus the #patents that go with this #marketing chaos and deception https://hackaday.com/2021/10/18/they-milk-cows-dont-they/
[22:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-They Milk Cows, Dont They? | Hackaday
[22:36]	techrights-news	Those accolades and fake rewards can easily be bought; they let you game the system for money https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/awards-roll-call-august-october-2021 #redhat #ibm #marketing #bullcrap
[22:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Awards roll call: August to October 2021
[22:37]	techrights-news	#ibm #redhat : nice system you got there; if would be a shame if we interjected some unnecessary complexity into it (to sell support subscriptions) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/what-i-learned-about-kubernetes-and-knative-serverless
[22:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | What I learned about Kubernetes and Knative Serverless
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[22:39]	XRevan86	https://xkcd.com/2530/ Xkcd found out about EpiVacCorona?
[22:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Clinical Trials
[22:39]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2530/
[22:39]	techrights-news	when #ibm #redhat speak of "automation" "modernisation" and "transformation" they mean shifting technology stacks to stuff fewer people can support and handle... so that Red Hat can step in... for $10,000 per year. Don't fall for it. Not broken? Don't try to 'fix' it. But they're lying to the "suits" with their buzzwords.
[22:44]	techrights-news	#mozilla #firefox "In September there were 174 alerts generated, resulting in 23 regression bugs being filed on average 6.4 days after the regressing change landed." https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/10/18/performance-sheriff-newsletter-september-2021/
[22:44]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/10/18/performance-sheriff-newsletter-september-2021/
[22:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (September 2021) Mozilla Performance
[22:45]	techrights-news	Community Member Monday: Hlompho Mota https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/10/18/community-member-monday-hlompho-mota/ #documentfoundation #LibreOffice
[22:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Community Member Monday: Hlompho Mota - The Document Foundation Blog
[22:47]	techrights-news	#Apple & #Google Seek U.S. Trade Attack on Anti-Monopoly Law https://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2021/10/rethinking-trade-season-1-episode-40-.html #Monopolies
[22:47]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: typepad.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2021/10/rethinking-trade-season-1-episode-40-.html
[22:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizen.typepad.com | Eyes on Trade: Rethinking Trade - Season 1 Episode 40: Apple & Google Seek U.S. Trade Attack on Anti-Monopoly Law
[22:48]	techrights-news	Wow. The whole of #typepad has been outsourced to #clownflare ... a #surveillance and #censorship company. typepad failing to have its own CDN reaffirms the death of typepad.
[22:49]	techrights-news	#AsahiLinux trying to help #apple make more sales :/ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156507#comment-31440
[22:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Raspberry Pi, Intel/x86, and Asahi Linux (M1) | Tux Machines
[22:50]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/18/net_foundation_gnome/
[22:50]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/18/net_foundation_gnome/
[22:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | .NET Foundation was supposed to be like GNOME Foundation The Register
[22:50]	techrights-news	"Free software isnt free. Free software geeks love to correct people by saying that the free in free software refers to freedom (libre), not cost (gratis)" https://puri.sm/posts/how-purism-funds-free-software/
[22:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | How Purism Funds Free Software Purism
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	AdmFubar: haha
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	some model
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	GNOME Foundation..
[22:52]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/10/10/microsoft-stealing/
[22:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub is for Theft by Microsoft (Stealing Other Peoples Work) | Techrights
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[22:55]	techrights-news	UPDATE: Today the hogwash carries on, with #MicrosoftTim comparing Microsoft's vendor lock-in to #GNOMEFoundation http://techrights.org/2021/10/10/microsoft-stealing/ #theRegister #Microsoft #openwashing
[22:55]	techrights-news	#Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156939 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[22:56]	techrights-news	Get memory use statistics with this Linux command-line tool http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156940 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Get memory use statistics with this Linux command-line tool | Tux Machines
[22:56]	techrights-news	4 GNU/Linux tools to erase your data http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156941 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Linux tools to erase your data | Tux Machines
[22:59]	techrights-news	#McDonalds "supports" salad. Until #dell properly preloads #gnu #linux and stops paying #microsoft for #fakepatents buy from OEMs that ACTUALLY SUPPORT GNU/Linux https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Dell-Inspiron-15-3501-supports-Linux.573012.0.html
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[22:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Dell Inspiron 15 3501 supports Linux - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
● Oct 18
[23:00]	techrights-news	KDE Announces Plasma 25th Anniversary Edition http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156744#comment-31441
[23:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE's 25th Anniversary | Tux Machines
[23:02]	techrights-news	#linuxfoundation is NOT a NON-PROFIT. It's a PRIVATE but CROWDSOURCED (among monopolies) #marketing company that operates at a loss. Don't be misled by the label "Linux" http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/the-linux-racket/
[23:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Exceeds $100,000,000 in Revenue and Jim Zemlin Now Pays Himself About a Million Dollars a Year While His Foundation Operates at a Loss of $732,261 | Techrights
[23:04]	techrights-news	...people used to mock #canonical for 'joining' (paying) the #linuxfoundation so late (and #microsoft Greg (K-H) berated #ubuntu for not doing much in #kernel space) as if 'Linux' Foundation stands for Linux. THEY DO NOT EVEN USE LINUX!!!
[23:05]	techrights-news	The HP3458A: King Of Multimeters For Three Decades | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/18/the-hp3458a-king-of-multimeters-for-three-decades/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/18/#latest
[23:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The HP3458A: King Of Multimeters For Three Decades | Hackaday
[23:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[23:08]	techrights-news	#Comcast disguised as "diversity" (PR in a suit) https://fossforce.com/2021/10/five-of-mondays-all-things-open-presentations-we-wouldnt-miss/
[23:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Five of Monday's 'All Things Open' Presentations We Wouldn't Miss - FOSS Force
[23:10]	techrights-news	Still early days, though, with experimental #DXR 1.1 support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156934#comment-31442
[23:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Valve, Timberborn, and More | Tux Machines
[23:12]	techrights-news	A breakdown of what #oil makes https://hackaday.com/2021/10/18/electric-vehicles-the-gasoline-problem-and-synthetic-fuels-part-1/
[23:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Electric Vehicles, The Gasoline Problem, And Synthetic Fuels | Hackaday
[23:14]	techrights-news	EVs aren't the real/proper solution to anything; I had a long think about it and a long time ago I reached the conclusion that the "problem" they tackle is, some people still drive oil/'old' cars and aren't purchasing 'new' crap marketed as "smart" and "green" (yuppies loves those)
[23:16]	techrights-news	Lousy #journalism [sic] wants us to think 'electric' planes are some sort of major accomplishment. But WHERE does the POWER come from? Not the air. Also, going sky high (30,000ft) to push some suits to another office for a 1-day meeting is NOT progress. 'Flight shame' is a kind of solution.
[23:17]	techrights-news	#FirstWorldProblems : I still have an older model of #apple hypePhone. Real world problems: https://risingsunoverport.co.za/108699/thousands-of-food-parcels-distributed-through-strongertogether-initiative/
[23:17]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: risingsunoverport.co.za | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://risingsunoverport.co.za/108699/thousands-of-food-parcels-distributed-through-strongertogether-initiative/
[23:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-risingsunoverport.co.za | Thousands of food parcels distributed through #StrongerTogether initiative - Rising Sun Overport
[23:18]	techrights-news	Very little activity in #fedora these days, but #NeuroFedora is not giving up. #ibm is killing #redhat community components. Many Red Hat employees leave. https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2021/10/18/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-25-October-1300-utc.html
[23:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neuroblog.fedoraproject.org | Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 25 October 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: Blog
[23:19]	techrights-news	How #Purism Funds #FreeSoftware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156942 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Purism Funds Free Software | Tux Machines
[23:19]	techrights-news	Micro simple and feature-filled command line #texteditor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156943 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw
[23:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Micro simple and feature-filled command line text editor | Tux Machines
[23:21]	techrights-news	Russ Allbery: rra-c-util 10.0 https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2021-10/002.html #Perl #Programming
[23:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eyrie.org | Eagle's Path: (2021-10-17)
[23:22]	techrights-news	"Arm has launched an Arm Total Solutions for [buzzword] initiative that combines its Cortex-A- and -M based Corstone SoC reference designs with a new Arm Virtual Hardware Targets platform for virtual, clown-based testing." https://linuxgizmos.com/arm-adds-virtual-testing-platform-for-corstone-cortex-a-and-m-ref-designs/
[23:22]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/arm-adds-virtual-testing-platform-for-corstone-cortex-a-and-m-ref-designs/
[23:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/arm-adds-virtual-testing-platform-for-corstone-cortex-a-and-m-ref-designs/ )
[23:23]	techrights-news	#Rakudo Weekly News: 2021.42 Learning With https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/10/18/2021-42-learning-with/ #Rakulang #programming
[23:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.42 Learning With Rakudo Weekly News
[23:25]	techrights-news	What a ridiculous coredump of mindless #buzzwords by #SUSE https://www.suse.com/c/the-intelligent-edge-coming-soon-to-arm-devsummit-2021/
[23:25]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/the-intelligent-edge-coming-soon-to-arm-devsummit-2021/
[23:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Intelligent Edge Coming Soon to Arm DevSummit 2021 | SUSE Communities
[23:27]	techrights-news	"Happy Friday, everyone. The Apache community has had another great week." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up248 #freesw #apache
[23:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 15 October 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog
[23:27]	techrights-news	Dirk Eddelbuettel: dang 0.0.14: Several Updates http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/10/17#dang_0.0.14 #programming
[23:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box
[23:28]	techrights-news	Use KPNG to Write Specialized kube-proxiers https://kubernetes.io/blog/2021/10/18/use-kpng-to-write-specialized-kube-proxiers/ #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #Kubernetes
[23:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Use KPNG to Write Specialized kube-proxiers | Kubernetes
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[23:36]	techrights-news	"When you first switch to Linux it can be hard to out what alternatives you should look into for the apps that you want to run so today we're going to look at exactly that" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=L0uL2zLuOK0
[23:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | FOSS Alternatives For The Windows Refugee - Invidious
[23:37]	DaemonFC	Libera says I'm on the DroneBL.
[23:37]	DaemonFC	Anyway, the trash can had a stroke and went down for half an hour.
[23:37]	DaemonFC	The guy from T-Mobile is sending me a new modem.
[23:39]	techrights-news	Late Night Linux Episode 147 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-147/ #gnu #linux
[23:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux Episode 147 Late Night Linux
[23:40]	techrights-news	#KaOS 2021.10 Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lrJiQ5arRHk #video #invidious #gnu #linux
[23:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | KaOS 2021.10 Run Through - Invidious
[23:41]	techrights-news	xkcd: #ClinicalTrials https://xkcd.com/2530/ #xkcd having a go to lousy (low efficacy) #covid19 vaccines that don't stop the spread?
[23:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Clinical Trials
[23:41]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2530/
[23:43]	techrights-news	A Terror So Terrifying, Youll Swear Its Just A Myth - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cZSFsidQNXY #video #invidious
[23:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | A Terror So Terrifying, You'll Swear It's Just A Myth - Invidious
[23:44]	psydruid	lol
[23:44]	psydruid	I didn't know that DroneBL still exists
[23:44]	techrights-news	#EU facilitates surveillance: Access Now, PI, demand an investigation - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/eu-surveillance-investigation/ #accessnow
[23:44]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/eu-surveillance-investigation/
[23:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | EU facilitates surveillance: Access Now, PI, demand an investigation - Access Now
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[23:45]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC might get a kick out of the above  - https://xkcd.com/2530/
[23:45]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2530/
[23:45]	schestowitz-TR	published hours ago
[23:45]	schestowitz-TR	step 3.5 drive 20 hours total to particpate
[23:47]	techrights-news	No, passwords do NOT belong at that level and #mozilla #firefox isn't #freesw anymore https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/how-to-choose-the-right-password-manager-browser-extension/
[23:47]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/how-to-choose-the-right-password-manager-browser-extension/
[23:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | How to choose the right password manager browser extension - Firefox Add-on Reviews
[23:47]	techrights-news	"My spouse laughed at me when I said it runs GNU/Linux and lets you do whatever you want." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/18/amazon-offered-me-half-of-what-i-paid-for-my-galaxy-s20-fe-5g-the-phone-is-so-awful-that-im-considering-it/
[23:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Amazon offered me half of what I paid for my Galaxy S20 FE 5G. The phone is so awful that Im considering it. BaronHK's Rants
[23:50]	techrights-news	#xargs is #gnu , Sandra, not "Linux" https://www.networkworld.com/article/3636997/using-the-xargs-command-on-linux-to-simplify-your-work.html see http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/
[23:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Using the xargs command on Linux to simplify your work | Network World
[23:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs | Techrights
[23:52]	techrights-news	Build A Dog Ball Launcher That Kinda Looks Like A Dog | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/18/build-a-dog-ball-launcher-that-kinda-looks-like-a-dog/ #hackaday
[23:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Build A Dog Ball Launcher That Kinda Looks Like A Dog | Hackaday
[23:53]	techrights-news	Ubuntu-ready #Ryzen V2000 mini-PC starts at $639 https://linuxgizmos.com/ubuntu-ready-ryzen-v2000-mini-pc-starts-at-639/ #LinuxGizmos #Devices #GNU #Linux
[23:53]		-altlink_a8a/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/ubuntu-ready-ryzen-v2000-mini-pc-starts-at-639/
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[23:57]	techrights-news	"Tianfu Cup is the Chinese version of the Pwn2own in which hackers from Kunlun Lab managed to secure first place by hacking iPhone 13 through a vulnerability in the Safari mobile browser." https://www.hackread.com/iphone-13-pro-windows-chrome-linux-pwned-tianfu-cup/
[23:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hackread.com | iPhone 13 Pro, Windows, Chrome, Linux and others pwned at Tianfu Cup
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[23:59]	techrights-news	#intel obsolete https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2021/10/18/apple-m1-max-finally-replacing-my-last-intel-machine/ see leaks from Intel. They're hopeless! http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
[23:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossjon.wordpress.com | Apple M1 Max Finally Replacing My Last Intel Machine Jon's FOSS Blog
[23:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
[23:59]	schestowitz-TR	psydruid: ^^