●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 ●● ● Jan 19 [00:00] DaemonFC[m] USMCA managed to retain everything that caused my dad to lose his career job and float between unemployment checks and contract work since 2000, plus a lot of other bad shit that will ruin our dairy farms and auto industry for the benefit of Mexico and China, while exporting our patents and copyrights for the benefit of foreign drug companies that don't pay their taxes and Hollywood movie studios who submit their [00:00] DaemonFC[m] scripts to be censored by China for US audiences. [00:00] DaemonFC[m] *Mexico, Canada, and China rather. [00:02] DaemonFC[m] Now that our dairy market has lost the protectionism that was keeping it profitable, and subsidized Canadian dairy can flow in, and Chapter 9 farm bankruptcies are sky high in Wisconsin, and bankers who tell them no loans will be approved are being trained to call the cops if they look suicidal, that's Trump's legacy. [00:02] DaemonFC[m] That's what my dad and mom voted for. NAFTA on Steroids. [00:02] *ellewolfe has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:03] DaemonFC[m] This only ends one way for workers. An attack on workers is an attack on every worker. Once they divide and conquer and have people go fuck it I don't make television sets, it gets worse and worse. [00:06] DaemonFC[m] At least Cheeto Hitler will be gone. I wonder if the deep cleaning contract means they wipe down the bunker too, or if they can just leave it alone because Biden won't be hiding behind a wall and down in a fallout shelter meant to survive a 50 megaton blast from some people waving signs around. [00:06] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [00:07] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XX: Redacted (for Names Only) Release of #Intel File About Developer eXperience (DX) Meddling in GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/intel-dx-file/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XX: Redacted (for Names Only) Release of Intel File About Developer eXperience (DX) Meddling in GNU/Linux | Techrights [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [00:09] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Matter of hours, he'll be gone. [00:10] DaemonFC[m] Biden has days and days of dozens of executive orders planned. [00:10] DaemonFC[m] I LOL'd at the Alberta government complaining that they put $1.1 billion into Keystone XL, just to have it canceled. [00:10] MinceR maybe he'll need to hide from a lot of fascists waving guns around instead [00:11] schestowitz__ yup [00:11] DaemonFC[m] They started building the Canadian part months before Trump lost the election. [00:11] schestowitz__ I see that MinceR's cheeto joke travelled far in this channel... [00:11] DaemonFC[m] They're desperate. They needed him to win or it meant bankruptcy anyway, for TransCanada. [00:11] DaemonFC[m] Good. Fuck em. [00:11] MinceR it's not really mine [00:11] MinceR i don't think of cheetos enough to come up with such things :) [00:11] MinceR my approach to this was "DHA Man", but that wasn't nearly as catchy [00:12] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: You'd think you'd wait until after the election results are known to plunk down a bunch of money to build something. [00:12] DaemonFC[m] Now it's going to be a partial pipeline to nowhere that's sitting there unused for at least 4 more years while the world continues transitioning away from oil. [00:13] DaemonFC[m] I guess maybe they figure they want to have that part ready in the hopes that the Republicans win in 2024? But that doesn't seem likely. Especially if they run Trump again. If they're smart they'll disqualify him with the impeachment and move on. [00:17] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726537.jpg [00:19] schestowitz__ way to sell an old movie again [00:19] schestowitz__ making the point of redoing it without cheetos [00:19] schestowitz__ and some people will rent it for the principle and by tent I mean stream because it's all nasty DRM now [00:21] CrystalMath DaemonFC[m]: they don't need to disqualify him, just take some advice from the DNC and bernie him :P [00:22] schestowitz__ "trump bros" would not fly [00:22] schestowitz__ it would only boost them [00:23] schestowitz__ insecure men and their abused wives are into that kind of thing [00:23] CrystalMath i mean, rig the primaries so someone else wins [00:23] CrystalMath maybe Ted Cruz [00:23] CrystalMath it's what democrats did to Bernie [00:23] CrystalMath twice [00:24] techrights-bot #intel wiki http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel #intelabuses http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences #inteleaks http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks More coming soon. Much more. [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel - Techrights [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [00:25] schestowitz__ identity politiics stunt [00:25] schestowitz__ to float a puppet of billionaires [00:25] schestowitz__ put a businessman (bloomberg) perceived to be "liberal" [00:25] schestowitz__ a gay man [00:25] schestowitz__ a texas (beto) [00:25] schestowitz__ some women [00:26] XRevan86 also peaches are orange [00:26] schestowitz__ and then have them all raise money from large corporations [00:26] schestowitz__ at the end they tell their identity group to vote biden instead of themselves [00:27] *tr_guest|35437 (2e86a70b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.134.167.11) has joined #techrights [00:28] techrights-bot Today (or tonight) we release the first phase of #InteLeaks in a sensibly redacted form; coming up next is a surprise from Team #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/intel-dx-file/ #intel [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XX: Redacted (for Names Only) Release of Intel File About Developer eXperience (DX) Meddling in GNU/Linux | Techrights [00:28] CrystalMath heh, yeah [00:28] CrystalMath that whole "we endorse Biden" [00:28] *tr_guest|35437 has quit (Client Quit) [00:28] CrystalMath was like them bowing out the circus [00:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 9.23 [00:29] CrystalMath and the other side looked a bit scary... Trump vs. Bill Weld [00:29] CrystalMath and the result was like... [00:29] CrystalMath 23948239489 vs. 1 [00:29] CrystalMath or something [00:29] CrystalMath very very one-track [00:30] DaemonFC[m] I don't think Ted Cruz has a very good shot at it, personally. [00:30] DaemonFC[m] He did not do well in 2016. He was a very distant second from Trump. [00:30] CrystalMath it's like Bill Weld only ran so there is someone other than Trump [00:30] CrystalMath so that it doesn't look absolutely one-sided [00:30] CrystalMath just 99.99999% [00:35] DaemonFC[m] Actually, Trump only got 85-90% in states Weld was on the ballot. [00:36] DaemonFC[m] Then 9% of Republicans in exit polls said they voted for Biden. [00:46] CrystalMath Bill Weld would be a great president IMO [00:46] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: can you proofread http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/voting-machines-still-proprietary/ [00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Election Was Not Rigged, But the Nomination Process Was (Undermined to Maintain Control by Oligarchy) | Techrights [00:47] DaemonFC[m] "controlled by secret code" Which prints out a paper ballot, which is clearly marked, at least in Illinois. [00:47] DaemonFC[m] Though not in Indiana. There is no paper ballot in Indiana. The machine just says thank you for voting and then that's that. [00:47] schestowitz__ not everywhere [00:47] schestowitz__ yup [00:49] DaemonFC[m] "bout proprietary voting machine" [00:49] DaemonFC[m] machines [00:50] DaemonFC[m] There can't be a good reason for not printing out a physical, human-readable ballot. [00:50] DaemonFC[m] It certainly would make stealing an election in Indiana easier. [00:51] DaemonFC[m] "Don't worry, it's all stored on a compact flash card and absolutely nothing will be corrupted by a machine we bought 18 years ago going on the fritz." [00:52] DaemonFC[m] In Illinois, if it's within a margin, you can request a recount. In Indiana, there's nothing for people to pull out and count. You just get a total on a screen. Is it accurate? Who knows. In cases where there are paper ballots to count, mistakes are found that can add up to 5,000 or more votes in an entire state. [00:53] DaemonFC[m] That means that elections within that margin are questionable in a state like Indiana, but there's no way to prove what actually happened in a recount. [00:54] DaemonFC[m] Before we had computers and before we had computers that didn't leave any physical evidence of what happened, recounts changed election results all the time, and they still do in places where the computer leaves a paper trail. [00:54] techrights-bot The #US #Election Was Not Rigged, But the Nomination Process Was (Undermined to Maintain Control by Oligarchy) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/voting-machines-still-proprietary/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [00:55] DaemonFC[m] "Premier Voting Systems" or whatever Diebold calls itself now (they rebrand like Blackwater and tobacco companies do to get away from their scandals) promised Bush would win Ohio, and then he did. [00:55] MinceR iirc dominion bought them [00:55] DaemonFC[m] Isn't a bit openly corrupt to promise results before an election happens when you make the machines that record votes? [00:56] schestowitz__ on Windows [00:56] schestowitz__ so more companies have a stake [00:56] MinceR neofascists had a field day with that name, ignoring that diebold's machines were laughably insecure for decades and this was well known [00:56] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: STOP SUPPORTING TRUMP!! [00:56] DaemonFC[m] There have been two quite possibly stolen elections that come to mind in the last 20 years, and George W. Bush was the benefactor of both of them. [00:57] schestowitz__ Bill G lobbies for Bush to win [00:57] DaemonFC[m] *beneficiary [00:57] DaemonFC[m] rather [00:57] schestowitz__ and he was the world's wealthiest back then [00:57] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, he didn't win. They just knocked Florida and Ohio over to him in 2000 then 2004. [00:57] DaemonFC[m] They have to pretend to let people get revenge, part of me thinks. [00:58] DaemonFC[m] Oh this guy's a bastard. Here, you win. You're a winner! Oh wait, now this one is doing something terrible too. Nothing changed. Here, have another election. [00:58] MinceR you're winner! [00:58] DaemonFC[m] I think Trump's really the only one who promised to change things and then none of the things he changed ended up for the better. [00:59] DaemonFC[m] Everyone else could have been the last guy on autopilot, just about. [00:59] DaemonFC[m] When I was having my last cavity filled, in 2007, the dentist said "Oh some kind of health reform is definitely coming.". [00:59] schestowitz__ covid was trump dessert [00:59] DaemonFC[m] Turned out to be the most industry friendly one possible. ● Jan 19 [01:00] schestowitz__ how many died today? [01:00] DaemonFC[m] I don't consider Mondays. [01:00] DaemonFC[m] The count lags and then ends up higher later in the week. [01:01] DaemonFC[m] Plus MLK day is a state holiday so many health departments don't report. [01:05] DaemonFC[m] Pretty bad considering it's Monday and a holiday though. [01:06] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [01:06] schestowitz__ got mlk? 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Many of these questions were centred on Zoom. The company claimed its service provided end-to-end encryption (E2EE) for conference communications, but this was soon revealed to not be strictly accurate." [08:07] schestowitz__ "There is plenty of technology available to beef up security, but users often complain that it makes collaboration and communication more difficult, and they tend to avoid using it." [08:08] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Call-out culture is toxic, disgusting, and vile!) [08:11] schestowitz__ https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210119-01.en.html [08:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | FSFE is hiring a part-time technical expert - FSFE [08:11] schestowitz__ photo of girl here; just don't ask how FSFE mistreats women... https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210119-01.en.html [08:12] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/12/21/fsfe-women/ [08:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Court Case: Matthias Kirschner, FSFE Women and Volunteers Face Modern Day Slavery | Techrights [08:24] *notanamber (~luca@host-79-6-210-200.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #techrights [08:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.78 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.98 [08:33] *gry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #techrights [08:41] schestowitz__ seems like --color-space din99d in chafa improves rendering (but a tad slower), I wonder if we should go beyond 78 chars in width to improve clarity of images in the bulletin. I think some people's terminal would never be wider than this. [08:48] schestowitz__ seems like for 300 chars wide, with just binary image (and characters used like silhouettes) we already get in text as many KBs as the JPEG [08:49] schestowitz__ test: [08:49] schestowitz__ those sorts of blocks [08:50] schestowitz__ 48 chars wide: [08:50] schestowitz__ [08:50] schestowitz__ [08:50] schestowitz__ [08:50] schestowitz__ [08:50] schestowitz__ [08:50] schestowitz__ not making senese at all at this resolution [08:50] schestowitz__ from chafa [08:50] schestowitz__ the top left is IBM logo [08:51] schestowitz__ with a soup of unicode we might be able to get better outlines [08:51] schestowitz__ but only the latest release supports those sorts of glyphs [08:53] schestowitz__ https://hpjansson.org/chafa/gallery/ [08:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hpjansson.org | Gallery Chafa: Terminal Graphics for the 21st Century [08:59] Techrights-sec Yep not a surprise if the amount of 'pixels' is similar. [08:59] schestowitz__ I get much better results with Braille symbols, have changed to that, added --color-space din99d and it looks a tad better now, even at 78 chars across ● Jan 19 [09:06] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Monday, January 18, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/irc-log-180121/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, January 18, 2021 | Techrights [09:07] techrights-bot #Patenttrolls of #Microsoft / #Nokia and #Ericsson https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/uk-supreme-court-decisions-in-unwired-2737217/ [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK Supreme Court Decisions in Unwired Planet V Huawei and Hauwei V. Conversant | Ladas & Parry LLP - JDSupra [09:07] techrights-bot A photo of a girl here; just don't ask how FSFE mistreats women... https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210119-01.en.html see http://techrights.org/2020/12/21/fsfe-women/ [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | FSFE is hiring a part-time technical expert - FSFE [09:07] techrights-bot How to install #Signal Messaging App on latest #Ubuntu https://linuxhint.com/install-signal-messaging-ubuntu/ #gnu #linux [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How to install Signal Messaging App on latest Ubuntu Linux Hint [09:07] techrights-bot #LateNightLinux Episode 108 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-108/ #gnu #linux [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux Episode 108 Late Night Linux [09:07] techrights-bot #DestinationLinux 209: The Best Product Doesnt Always Win https://destinationlinux.org/episode-209/ #gnu #linux [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 209: The Best Product Doesn't Always Win - Destination Linux [09:08] Techrights-sec https://unicode-table.com/en/blocks/braille-patterns/ [09:08] Techrights-sec Still pixels, but will braille compress as well as text? [09:08] Techrights-sec I used the 2x2 graphics for QRcodes a while back. [09:08] Techrights-sec Had I thought at the time, It might have been more compact [09:08] Techrights-sec with braille. [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unicode-table.com | Braille Patterns - Unicode Character Table [09:09] schestowitz__ For the sorts if images we have braille seems to give better clarity overall, so I've stuck to that.. [09:10] Techrights-sec Ok. Like the old newsprint photos. [09:10] Techrights-sec Halftone is the old name... [09:11] schestowitz__ The examples here are not clear, they're too blocky: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-18.txt [09:11] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146623 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [09:12] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, January 18, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [09:12] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [09:12] Techrights-sec Yes, that is blocky. Is there an easy way to use the 2x4 braille charcaters? [09:13] schestowitz__ tomorrow's bulletin will have them composed solely of Braille symbols. The site has source code for compilation if I want a soup of weird characters... but I'm not sure it would yield something any better. [09:14] techrights-bot Cheating/driving the left out of the Democratic Party seems like a longstanding tradition and we know who stands to gain from it; moreover, problems remain in the voting process because its controlled by secret code of companies like #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/voting-machines-still-proprietary/ [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The US Election Was Not Rigged, But the Nomination Process Was (Undermined to Maintain Control by Oligarchy) | Techrights [09:14] techrights-bot "The shift to remote working raised lots of questions about security. Many of these questions were centred on Zoom. The company claimed its service provided end-to-end encryption (E2EE) for conference communications, but this was soon revealed to not be strictly accurate." https://www.innovationaus.com/end-to-end-encryption-must-be-easy-to-use/ [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-End-to-end encryption must be easy to use - InnovationAus [09:14] techrights-bot Interview: #HowieHawkins discusses #Ecosocialism and the #GreenNewDeal https://medium.com/done-waiting/interview-howie-hawkins-discusses-ecosocialism-and-the-green-new-deal-b2adc5ab0868 [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Interview: Howie Hawkins discusses Ecosocialism and the Green New Deal | by Done Waiting | Done Waiting | Jan, 2021 | Medium [09:21] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [09:26] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.00 [09:36] *Snuupy (~Snuupy@unaffiliated/snuupy) has joined #techrights [09:42] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [09:56] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Jan 19 [10:07] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [10:07] vZS1 https://www.classicfm.com/artists/sir-simon-rattle/applies-for-german-citizenship-brexit/ [10:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.classicfm.com | Conductor Sir Simon Rattle applies for German citizenship, citing absolute... - Classic FM [10:08] vZS1 schestowitz__: Brexit means Brexit. [10:09] schestowitz__ yes, common... [10:09] vZS1 #strongandstable [10:09] schestowitz__ for the EU maybe [10:09] schestowitz__ BT is strong and stable [10:09] schestowitz__ 1mb per 6 minutes [10:16] vZS1 https://news.sky.com/story/pamela-anderson-says-donald-trump-is-debating-pardoning-julian-assange-12191650 [10:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sky.com | Pamela Anderson says Donald Trump is 'debating' pardoning Julian Assange | Ents & Arts News | Sky News [10:17] vZS1 That was an unexpected source [10:21] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:22] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [10:26] techrights-bot Easily Create a Multiboot USB with Ventoy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146624 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | [10:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Easily Create a Multiboot USB with Ventoy | Tux Machines [10:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.31 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.58 [10:29] schestowitz__ vZS1: Sky of Anderson? [10:29] schestowitz__ *or [10:29] vZS1 Both [10:29] schestowitz__ BTW, you might want to see https://www.innovationaus.com/end-to-end-encryption-must-be-easy-to-use/ [10:32] vZS1 Kleopatra already provides an interface for non-technical users. [10:33] schestowitz__ not heard of it [10:33] schestowitz__ except the person [10:33] schestowitz__ (or myth) [10:34] vZS1 You still need to educate people about proper PGP usage [10:34] vZS1 No amount of UX will reduce the essential complexity involved [10:37] vZS1 And PGP is great in theory but most machines are already horribly compromised [10:38] vZS1 So the fact that you use PGP doesn't really mean anything, in that case. [10:45] schestowitz__ I agree [10:45] schestowitz__ brb, recording [10:47] vZS1 Btw, I cracked up while reading yesterday's Intel leaks. They really are hiring chimps [10:50] vZS1 Using sudo(1) while logged in as root [10:50] vZS1 Comedy gold [10:50] vZS1 Lol ● Jan 19 [11:01] *genr8_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:02] *genr8_ (~genr8_@unaffiliated/genbtc) has joined #techrights [11:11] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:11] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.203.46.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [11:25] schestowitz__ oh wait [11:25] schestowitz__ vZS1: today's video will crack you up more [11:25] schestowitz__ I've just finished recording it and listening to the whole thing just to ensure no faux pas got in [11:25] schestowitz__ in the past I didn't even review or re-listen [11:26] schestowitz__ but sometimes the sounds gets distorted for like a second, not sure why... [11:26] schestowitz__ today's part is about "clown chimps" [11:26] schestowitz__ InteLeaks Part XXI: Intel Seeking Advice From a Bunch of Clowns (Harbor 'Research') [11:27] schestowitz__ work in progress because it'll take at least half a day to upload and when the engineers comes over it'll break [11:27] schestowitz__ will like have to upload all over again [11:27] schestowitz__ the scheduled windows is 1pm to 6pm [11:27] schestowitz__ I hope he comes later so the upload can finish [11:28] schestowitz__ usually they "run some tests" (i.e. disconnect all your machines) before they physically arrive [11:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.56 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.16 [11:44] *mmu_man (~revol@88.163.37.4) has joined #techrights [11:55] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:56] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.188.167.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [11:57] *Lantizia has quit (*.net *.split) [11:57] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (*.net *.split) [11:57] *balrog has quit (*.net *.split) [11:57] *Researcher- has quit (*.net *.split) [11:58] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@techrights.org) has joined #techrights [11:58] *genr8_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:58] *genr8 (~genr8_@unaffiliated/genbtc) has joined #techrights [11:58] *Lantizia_ (~Lantizia@functionoffice/staff/Lantizia) has joined #techrights [11:59] *Researcher- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights [11:59] *balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights ● Jan 19 [12:08] *dyfet (~dyfet@pool-108-25-83-130.atclnj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights [12:10] schestowitz__ x https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=no&u=https://www.cw.no/artikkel/debatt/proprietaer-apen-kildekode-knus-myten [12:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [12:10] schestowitz__ # further attacks on software freedom, by shills [12:12] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:12] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.168.122.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [12:15] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-174.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [12:15] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-174.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [12:19] *inky (~norayr@141.136.78.143) has joined #techrights [12:24] schestowitz__ vZS1: better source: https://www.mintpressnews.com/pamela-anderson-leads-left-right-coalition-pushing-trump-to-pardon-assange/274473/ [12:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Pamela Anderson Leads Diverse Left-Right Coalition Pushing Trump to Pardon Assange [12:25] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:26] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [12:27] vZS1 Ty [12:27] schestowitz__ lurkers' comment: [12:27] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180121.html#tJan%2018%2001:19:03 [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, January 18, 2021 [12:27] schestowitz__ # xbox was only ever an investment as a testbed for DRM [12:27] schestowitz__ # the minecraft purchase was to prevent a generation growing up gaming on GNU/Linux [12:27] schestowitz__ vZS1: psydroid kingoffrance ^ [12:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.21 [12:30] vZS1 Bit late for that. Plenty of GNU/Linux systems running Minecraft [12:30] vZS1 The game and the server [12:31] vZS1 I used to host a sever for some people. The Minecraft Java edition [12:31] psydroid schestowitz_, that much has been clear for a few years now, but interestingly enough it didn't have the desired effect as my nephew has an Android phone and a Chromebook now [12:32] psydroid I will give one of the laptops I have here and that he uses whenever he comes here to him to run GNU/Linux after an SSD upgrade [12:32] *gry has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:32] vZS1 You can use OpenJDK on GNU/Linux but you need Oracle to run Java on Windows [12:32] inky people, the educational institution i work for is using gsuite, and so i need to open their email which is gmail from personal hw and home network. i wonder how am i giving google less information, if i use website, or if i use thunderbird or other mail client. [12:33] psydroid and as vZS1 says, it's already too late [12:33] schestowitz__ for Intel also [12:33] inky website i would open in a dedicated mozilla container [12:33] schestowitz__ I really want this video up there already [12:33] schestowitz__ it's about a new document [12:34] schestowitz__ Intel thinks Microsoft can salvage it?! [12:34] schestowitz__ and in devices? [12:34] schestowitz__ Mozilla is basically finished [12:34] schestowitz__ they sacked some key technical people [12:34] schestowitz__ like gecko devs [12:35] schestowitz__ they'll just bleed market share to death [12:35] vZS1 Minecraft is a great example of how DRM doesn't work. People reverse-engineered the compiled code to construct a decompiler, in order to mod the game [12:35] schestowitz__ and then blame "bad actors" [12:35] schestowitz__ vZS1: what is its business model? [12:35] schestowitz__ is minecraft something you pay to use? [12:36] vZS1 It's a one time purchase [12:36] schestowitz__ I never understood why Microsoft paid so much for garbage that looks like 1990s game [12:36] schestowitz__ I'd rather play CounterStrike or WarCraft [12:36] vZS1 It's basically digital Lego with a physics engine [12:36] vZS1 Different kind of game [12:36] psydroid Minecraft is a Trojan horse [12:36] schestowitz__ why not Second Life? [12:37] psydroid that's its business model [12:37] psydroid also Roblox refuses to support GNU/Linux [12:37] *gry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #techrights [12:37] psydroid I wonder what happened behind the scenes there, it won't be pretty [12:38] vZS1 I don't think there's anything inherently bad about Minecraft. They don't force you to install spyware. You can run the server in an isolated environment as well. It doesn't cry for root privileges [12:38] inky schestowitz__, i've read they closed the servo team, did not know they also closed gecko team. [12:39] vZS1 Minecraft is a great example of a have successful because of people being able to modify the code [12:39] vZS1 The Mojang people realised that the modders keep the game alive [12:40] schestowitz__ doom [12:40] vZS1 s/have/hood/ [12:40] vZS1 Scratch that [12:41] vZS1 s/have/game [12:41] psydroid I let my cousins kids play Minetest on my old phones instead and they didn't even notice the difference [12:42] psydroid I'm not in the loop when it comes to Minecraft, though [12:42] vZS1 Yeah. There are plenty of Minecraft clones that work well [12:42] vZS1 It's not a complicated game to program [12:43] vZS1 The most complex mods all come from the community [12:43] vZS1 I don't do modding but I'm "the server guy" for a few groups. [12:44] schestowitz__ better to add mod to freesw [12:44] schestowitz__ not the company that attacks freesw [12:45] vZS1 Most of the community didn't like the Microsoft acquisition [12:45] psydroid hence why I promote only Minetest [12:45] psydroid which is also written in C++, so you get better performance too [12:46] vZS1 I think it's slow because of just legacy code [12:46] schestowitz__ there are other freesw clones or alt [12:46] vZS1 That was never optimised [12:46] schestowitz__ but lesser known ones [12:47] vZS1 There are games written entirely in Lua much more performant [12:49] psydroid so my take on it is that Mindcraft should have been shot down by a community that really cared about modding years ago [12:50] psydroid why build your mods on a shoddy foundation when you can have a truly free base? [12:50] *dyfet has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [12:54] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [12:56] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:56] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.168.122.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [12:58] inky people, let me repeat, what do you think, if i have to use gmail for work, which option exposes me to gmail less - mail client or the browser website? app i won't use, of course, and the website is isolated in mozilla container. ● Jan 19 [13:01] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:01] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.188.161.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [13:01] psydroid I'm not sure it really matters, but I would say a mail client [13:06] psydroid https://opensource.com/alternatives/minecraft [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 free open source Minecraft-style games and game engines | Opensource.com [13:10] *tr_guest|44607 (4fb9365d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.185.54.93) has joined #techrights [13:20] *tr_guest|44607 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [13:21] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:21] *vZS1 (~vZS1@88-109-14-169.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #techrights [13:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.61 ● Jan 19 [14:03] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [14:32] *Disconnected (Network is unreachable). 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[14:55] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [14:55] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:56] kingoffrance well i dont follow games at all, but i imagine the "ideal" situation is streaming video over a network, from a proprietary server and protocol, and subscriptions, and games are totally unplayable when the cloud goes down [14:56] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-152-237-130.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:57] kingoffrance "ideal" as in user has zero control [14:58] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-237-130.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Jan 19 [15:00] psydroid oiaohm posted some articles about gaming last year [15:00] psydroid I think we are increasingly going to be fine with free software games [15:01] psydroid as the cost of developing proprietary games is going through the ceiling and the roof [15:03] *schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:04] *Now talking on #techrights [15:04] *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell [15:04] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 [15:04] MinceR that "ideal" solution is going to make arena FPS-es unplayably laggy so i guess they'll attempt to eliminate those :> [15:04] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:06] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [15:06] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-152-237-130.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:09] *libertybox (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:81e7:bc34:11fa:8ab4) has joined #techrights [15:09] *acer-box____ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [15:17] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:17] *vZS1 (~vZS1@88-109-14-169.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #techrights [15:28] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:28] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.169.118.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [15:34] kingoffrance my relatives house: bluray player, ethernet or wifi tv: ethernet or wifi dvr: ethernet or wifi most of them have usb too (play video on flash stick). i dont think thats end of the world, but like if you want to stream something from online, you really only need tv or dvr i think, and not both; i would disable all the others, ethernet maybe. now add an xbox to that. they seemingly have apps now too. [15:34] kingoffrance not the end of the world, but i see a pattern there... [15:34] kingoffrance at some point they might not even work without internet [15:35] kingoffrance its gonna be you have 4 cell phone devices, all with their own walled garden apps [15:35] vZS1 That's the end goal. Every device is just a UI with laughable hardware. [15:35] vZS1 Remote terminal [15:36] vZS1 That's all you get, Jack. [15:36] kingoffrance and when company goes under, servers gone, not even that [15:36] vZS1 Yep [15:37] vZS1 Mainframe has kicked the bucket. Sorry about that. [15:38] kingoffrance and you pair with your phone so you dont need a remote. again, doesnt bother me, but at what point will that be mandatory? [15:38] kingoffrance "everyone has one" [15:38] kingoffrance they'll try it at some point [15:40] vZS1 They already do it for public services. "Apps" for gov procedures that the government neither owns nor controls. [15:40] kingoffrance i suppose "general computing device" they dont want, but they eventually get "apps" for some "interoperability" (even if all walled garden-ish talking to other walled garden) [15:41] kingoffrance yeah, twitter too [15:41] kingoffrance they have a book for gov [15:41] kingoffrance talks about "emotional" content [15:41] kingoffrance for more effective messages lol just strange to see a company telling gov how to do that [15:42] vZS1 It's because they lobby their chums in the cabinet for those deals. It's corruption. [15:42] kingoffrance not that they dont have pr people, but strange to see it so open [15:42] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726515.jpg [15:42] vZS1 Those "apps" all are paid for from public purse. [15:43] schestowitz__ on new router, not sure if it can be configured to allow incoming SSH, will check later for more configs, as vZS1 warned... [15:43] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@host81-152-237-130.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:44] kingoffrance i very much think publically-funded stuff needs to be public. not just code. laws copyrighted that you have to purchase is no "law" at all. [15:44] kingoffrance well i mean law is code i guess too, but its more than just apps [15:44] vZS1 They even ask for a scan of passport on the be "NHS app". Not controlled by government. [15:44] vZS1 Laughable authentication. It's a strategy to get passport images for free [15:45] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:56d9:b4ab:9574:64f3) has joined #techrights [15:45] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 0 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 1.89 [15:46] vZS1 I threw up a very big commotion with the local surgery. They finally redirected to a web page that doesn't require log in. We're talking about national healthcare here. I threatened to expose them. [15:46] *tdemin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:46] DaemonFC[m] I got an email saying my Ubisoft account had been accessed from Albania. [15:47] DaemonFC[m] I didn't even remember I had one. I think I created one years ago for a free game or something. I logged in and scrambled the password. [15:47] DaemonFC[m] Several months ago, someone broke into my Spotify account, but it was a free account. I scrambled that. [15:49] *techrights-bot (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9e47:addf:5b42:cd6d) has joined #techrights [15:51] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:52] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [15:54] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/ipAnwilMncI whopping one and a half hours [15:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- . - YouTube [15:55] XRevan86 (Putin's palace. History of the world's largest bribe, with subtitles) [15:56] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:b0dc:8253:c7a0:cffa) has joined #techrights [15:56] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:b0dc:8253:c7a0:cffa) has joined #techrights [15:58] techrights-bot Relearning how to reconfigure the home network (many devices), now with a new hub... let's hope this puts an end to our 15-day IPS ordeal... [15:59] *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/pRDlutYuPSLbRjCbAoPngZNF/message.txt > [15:59] DaemonFC[m] (I posted that elsewhere.) [15:59] schestowitz__ seems like the new "smart" hub cannot allow me to choose: 1) open wifi and 2) which computer to redirect incoming ssh port (22) to. ● Jan 19 [16:00] DaemonFC[m] It's also almost impossible to automatically scrape these sites for backups. The US federal government has been "complying" with the Presidential Records Act by having someone copy and paste things out of Twitter into the National Archives. This is horrible. [16:00] schestowitz__ But I could, instead, pass files outwards. Main issue is, what if I'm on holiday and want to access my home network? Will need to study what's going on with those new "smart" things... which are actually more dumb and restrictive [16:01] DaemonFC[m] Where it does comply, anyway. Trump destroys a lot of evidence. [16:01] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: There are actually some forums that are either still up or are backed up by the internet archive where I said some things 20 years ago and they're still there. [16:02] DaemonFC[m] Twitter is less robust than that, but nobody cares. [16:03] DaemonFC[m] In some cases, I was alerted that things that old are still around because I get an email that someone replied to something I posted in 2001. [16:03] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/Hs6B6on.jpg [16:04] DaemonFC[m] I replied to someone saying "You do realize I posted that 19 years ago....". [16:04] schestowitz__ MinceR: can you do me a big favour? [16:04] MinceR \_()_/ [16:05] schestowitz__ what format for IRC do you use? The old one? [16:05] schestowitz__ for logs I mean [16:05] schestowitz__ obviously I lost some things and on the server side the format is raw and messy [16:05] Techrights-sec Is it OpenWRT-based? [16:05] schestowitz__ No [16:05] MinceR some irssi format with a lot of control codes [16:05] MinceR a while ago i wrote a script to strip them out, but i lost it [16:06] MinceR i think it uses irssi-specific color codes [16:06] schestowitz__ can you pls pls pls check if #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell had anything in them in the past 3 hours except the #boycottnovell-social updates that I posted? [16:07] schestowitz__ MinceR: if it's only for this channel that I lost updates, I can pull them from TR server side and tidy them up a bit manually [16:07] schestowitz__ for this channel [16:07] MinceR schestowitz__: they did not have anything other than that [16:07] schestowitz__ does anyone here use xchat by any chance? [16:07] schestowitz__ MinceR: thank you :-D a relief [16:08] schestowitz__ MinceR: I am taking longer than expected to restore everything [16:08] MinceR np [16:08] schestowitz__ turns out a rapi rebooted without a screen plugged in might need rebooting [16:08] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: what IRC client do you use? [16:09] schestowitz__ I want our 13-year IRC logging streak to remain perfect, if you use xchat type logs, then they're compatible with what we use [16:09] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:09] DaemonFC[m] Element now. [16:09] DaemonFC[m] It provides persistence to IRC so it logs even when I'm not here and my laptop is not on. [16:10] vZS1_2 I'm going to switch to "ii", from KIRC, once I'm done with my migration. [16:10] vZS1_2 Should make automation way easier. [16:10] DaemonFC[m] For most of it, I was using either XChat or HexChat (after the original author lost interest). Fedora has a bad habit of doing things like keeping around a currently maintained fork and the dead original program as it piles up CVEs. They did that with XChat. [16:11] DaemonFC[m] I think you can still use xmms but I can't figure out why you would. It had a few plug-ins for some oddball formats that nobody ever used much. [16:15] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: good idea [16:15] schestowitz__ anyone here on xchat? [16:16] DaemonFC[m] I told mom they fired two of Mandy's co-workers that were annoying him by playing on their iPhones and letting him do all the work. The last straw was they were caught stealing groceries. [16:17] DaemonFC[m] Her response was about what I figured. "And they're the ones chanting give us fifteen dollars an hour.". [16:17] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:18] DaemonFC[m] I told her, "Well, I don't think it'll be a bad thing. It'll make them clean house of people they aren't getting any work out of anyway. Regardless, once they catch you stealing you're banned from ever working at Walmart again, whether they press charges or not". [16:19] DaemonFC[m] It's wasn't like, you know, they were starving and pulled a Jean Valjean to steal a loaf of bread. It was soft drinks and stuff while they were playing on their iPhones. [16:21] DaemonFC[m] I'm not sure that RMS understands economics, really. But he is right that we have to do something even with the fuck-ups (not his words, but). Nobody rightly knows what that is. [16:22] DaemonFC[m] From a pure efficiency standpoint, you raise the minimum wage, you get more selective about your workers. You only hire ones that produce because you have to pay them so much. What happens to the people who are now impractical to hire? Well, formerly they were getting a free lunch off the productive workers in their shop. Now they're a bigger problem for all of society, in a murky sense. It's about whose problem do [16:22] DaemonFC[m] you want them to be. [16:23] DaemonFC[m] At some point you're just passing out free shit to prevent people from rioting, which seems to be where we've been all along with Medicaid, food stamps, and home heating assistance. [16:24] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:26] DaemonFC[m] That's why abortion would never be made illegal. I told mom that's why it'll never be illegal. "You think the crime's bad now. What would happen if 48 million people suddenly appeared that we had to do something about? We know what happens. That's why you're scared to go to the Philippines. That some troubled young men are going to bash a bottle and hold you up with it.". [16:27] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: She was one of the folks telling me there would be a Coronavirus baby boom. [16:27] DaemonFC[m] So I snapped a picture of people picking the condoms clean at Walmart and said, "Yeah maybe not.". [16:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.48 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.58 [16:31] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:37] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:38] vZS1_2 Then you have nutjobs like the Polish government outlawing abortion for pretty much everyone. [16:38] vZS1_2 Cuz muh Catholicism. [16:40] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: I found the option for no firewall and port forwarding [16:40] schestowitz__ I will send you ip for the pi [16:40] schestowitz__ to test access [16:40] vZS1_2 testing now [16:40] schestowitz__ cheers! [16:41] schestowitz__ ipfs is up and running again just fine, after a reboot to get the external screen working (had to do network configs) [16:41] vZS1_2 The bot is stupid but extremely robust. [16:41] DaemonFC[m] It's pretty much the Catholics ruining the Philippines too, but they have worse (if not as popular). ISIS Muslims, Iglesia ni Cristo.... [16:42] DaemonFC[m] Poverty-stricken countries get weird and hateful religions. They thrive on low levels of literacy and high levels of resentment. [16:42] DaemonFC[m] That's exactly how Nation of Islam grows in the Chicago ghettos. [16:43] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: SSH working. [16:43] DaemonFC[m] The Catholics didn't want people in Europe to be able to read the bible for themselves. If they had their way, the dark ages would never have ended. [16:43] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: if you could set up IPNS for the Rpi's IP address, that'd be great. :P [16:43] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: yay \0/ [16:44] DaemonFC[m] If you can read, you'd be considered extremely educated by the standards of just a few hundred years ago. [16:44] vZS1_2 Right now I track the address via post-it. Not a complaint but would just make life a bit easier. [16:44] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: yes, next on the list [16:44] schestowitz__ I tweaked chafa a bit [16:44] schestowitz__ after that, as I am off work till Saturday, I will do dns [16:46] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:46] *Lantizia__ (~Lantizia@functionoffice/staff/Lantizia) has joined #techrights [16:46] schestowitz__ [15:37] Mainframe has kicked the bucket. Sorry about that. [16:46] schestowitz__ Clown [16:46] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:46] schestowitz__ it's coming bacj [16:46] schestowitz__ buy minutes [16:46] schestowitz__ or seconds [16:47] schestowitz__ or function call quotient [16:47] DaemonFC[m] I suppose the irony is that I learned to read at a Catholic school. My parents weren't Catholic but they didn't want me in public school, so they put me there. Didn't fit in. Did all kinds of things to get myself expelled. It took quite a while. They were extremely patient considering what I was doing. [16:48] *genBTC (~genr8_@unaffiliated/genbtc) has joined #techrights [16:48] *Researcher-- (iana@64.140.159.183) has joined #techrights [16:48] *Researcher- has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:48] *genr8 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:48] vZS1_2 DaemonFC[m]: Pope Benedict is also a very intelligent person so the Catholic church has been regaining its influence. Read the book "God's Bankers" to see how he saved their entire operation. [16:48] *Researcher-- is now known as Researcher- [16:48] *gry has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:49] *Lantizia_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:50] DaemonFC[m] They needed a rebranding. Unfortunately, they got one that was in line with what the Stasi laid out for East Germany, which Putin put into effect in Russia. [16:50] *gry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #techrights [16:51] vZS1_2 Who knew electing a Nazi as pope was a bad idea. [16:52] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/us/capitol-riots-speech-hate-extremist-first-amendment/index.html [16:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Violence at Capitol and beyond reignites debate over America's defense of extremist speech - CNN [16:52] DaemonFC[m] Well, this is disconcerting. [16:52] DaemonFC[m] "questions emerge about unrestrained free expression, long championed by First Amendment theorists as a benefit to society, no matter how ugly and hateful" [16:53] DaemonFC[m] Questions emerge about whether we should allow people to speak. -CNN [16:53] DaemonFC[m] As if you need a permit. It's the first amendment to the bill of rights! [16:54] vZS1_2 "unrestrained free expression". Nice spin. It's not "free", if it's restrained. [16:54] vZS1_2 Can already see which line CNN is towing. Bunch of chimps. [16:55] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:56] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:58] kingoffrance im on xchat right now, sorry missed the msgs [16:59] DaemonFC[m] Unemployment rate skyrockets. Permanently bankrupt small businesses everywhere with no jobs for people to return to. "Congratulations! You are being rescued! Please do not resist!" [16:59] kingoffrance the IPFS graphs are fine ● Jan 19 [17:00] schestowitz__ kingoffrance: will you be able to send me over email the IRC logs for this afternoon? [17:00] kingoffrance i dont keep logs, but i can send you scrollback sure [17:01] schestowitz__ do you not have under .xchat or .chat2 in your home directory a log directory? [17:01] CrystalMath DaemonFC[m]: this is the crap you voted for [17:01] schestowitz__ those are typically on by default [17:01] CrystalMath granted, your other choice was also crap [17:01] kingoffrance yes it should have that, i thought there was some further level of "logs" [17:01] CrystalMath but it was different crap [17:01] kingoffrance i will pastebin one sec [17:01] schestowitz__ cheers [17:01] kingoffrance or will that kill formatting? [17:01] DaemonFC[m] Yes, just because it's the only option doesn't mean it's a good thing. [17:01] schestowitz__ it's the format we need [17:01] vZS1_2 kingoffrance: I recommend BitTorrent or IPFS for sharing files. :D [17:01] schestowitz__ kingoffrance: if you get that from the log file, it'll have timestamps [17:02] CrystalMath DaemonFC[m]: idk, i would have voted for Trump, i think he'd be easier to deal with [17:02] schestowitz__ hexchat and xchat-gnome have similar paths [17:02] DaemonFC[m] The Russians understand this I'd imagine. [17:02] CrystalMath especially since the house would have remained democratic [17:02] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XXI: Intel Seeking Advice From a Bunch of Clowns (Harbor Research) http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/harbor-research-recommendations/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [17:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXI: Intel Seeking Advice From a Bunch of Clowns (Harbor Research) | Techrights [17:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [17:02] DaemonFC[m] They kept having nuclear accidents and then asking or ordering people to fix and exposed reactor. [17:02] MinceR (no audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/726431.mp4 [17:02] vZS1_2 That way, you don't need to worry about software ruining the data in a file. [17:03] schestowitz__ ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs$ ls | grep FreeNode-#techrights.log [17:03] schestowitz__ FreeNode-#techrights.log [17:03] kingoffrance yeah i wouldnt normally use xchat im on a live cd thing [17:03] schestowitz__ see if you have files in that path: ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs [17:03] schestowitz__ the past 5 hours of logs is all I need [17:03] schestowitz__ to maintain perfect record of logs, since 2008 [17:03] kingoffrance you'll have to filter that :) [17:04] DaemonFC[m] In the case of K-19 and Chernobyl, the disasters were ultimately entirely avoidable. Egregiously so. [17:04] DaemonFC[m] It highlighted the incompetence of the people in charge. [17:04] DaemonFC[m] No respect for what they were dealing with. [17:05] DaemonFC[m] Just as Trump went golfing and other Republicans provided cover for his "It's just a flu." story. [17:05] DaemonFC[m] No shutdowns would be necessary other than air travel and international cruises had he acted right away. [17:05] DaemonFC[m] You act early and the solution is easier and more likely to work. [17:06] kingoffrance also, if the logs are my local clock, i wouldnt trust that :) [17:06] DaemonFC[m] So, governors with states to run are trying to clean up a raging disaster that they cannot fix now. [17:06] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [17:06] DaemonFC[m] Because Trump went golfing and said it was a flu. [17:06] kingoffrance but it looks like unix epoch seconds elapsed, so might not be too bad [17:07] kingoffrance i mean to munge [17:08] schestowitz__ [17:06] also, if the logs are my local clock, i wouldnt trust that :) [17:08] schestowitz__ I will merge them in, time isn't what's most important [17:08] schestowitz__ we used to fuse together a HA thing from Canada [17:08] schestowitz__ backup from cubeman_ [17:09] schestowitz__ it looks something like this: [17:09] schestowitz__ tail FreeNode-#techrights.log [17:09] schestowitz__ Jan 19 17:06:38 also, if the logs are my local clock, i wouldnt trust that :) [17:09] schestowitz__ Jan 19 17:06:41 So, governors with states to run are trying to clean up a raging disaster that they cannot fix now. [17:09] schestowitz__ and that gets parsed ok by python [17:10] schestowitz__ since it's all logged anyway, pastebin of the past 5 hours would be great. [17:10] DaemonFC[m] All you can do with the Coronavirus now is slow it down a little, maybe, at the cost of rampant economic destruction. [17:10] DaemonFC[m] And many people die anyway. [17:10] vZS1_2 I highly recommend this BitTorrent tracker: http://tracker.opentrackr.org/ [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tracker.opentrackr.org | OpenTrackr.org - Free to use (high) performance tracker! [17:12] kingoffrance schestowitz__, wget https://defuse.ca/b/sWCM9a8E?raw=true -q -O - | gpg -d -q --passphrase BB63BQUr1LtLcFHZcNIe2g== > techrights_2021-01-19_10-00-00.txt.xz hopefully you have wget and gpg, thats defuse.ca "makepaste.sh" and then "unxz" [17:13] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:14] kingoffrance point being, you get xz-compressed "raw" file so formatting-preserved [17:15] vZS1_2 Nice to see more xz(1) in the wild. [17:15] schestowitz__ did you use my new pgp key? [17:16] kingoffrance no, its just defusa.ca script pipes to gpg [17:16] kingoffrance https://defuse.ca/pastebin.htm just used the script at bottom of there [17:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-defuse.ca | Encrypted Pastebin - Keep your data private and secure! - Defuse Security [17:16] schestowitz__ because it asks for passphrase [17:16] kingoffrance try abcdef [17:16] schestowitz__ ah, ok :-) [17:17] schestowitz__ got it, unpacked [17:17] schestowitz__ thanks so much! [17:17] kingoffrance it mustve "cached" it for me, so didnt ask when i tested decode [17:17] schestowitz__ we had to redo all the networking at home today.. [17:21] DaemonFC[m] Felonies are coming for all of the people arrested from January 6th. [17:21] DaemonFC[m] While many are facing several misdemeanors, conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is a felony, even if they are not charged with sedition. [17:22] DaemonFC[m] They already charged at least one man with conspiracy to commit misdemeanor offenses. The conspiracy part carries potentially 5 years in prison. [17:22] kingoffrance i didnt know what the pastebin limit would be, it lets you do 132k [17:23] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146629 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:23] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/oath-keepers-capitol-riot-charges/index.html [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An apparent leader of Oath Keepers charged with planning and coordinating breach at US Capitol - CNNPolitics [17:24] vZS1_2 PSA: Never use "--passphrase" flag with gpg(1) on a multi-user system. [17:25] techrights-bot #Trisquel , Phones, and File Sharing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146625 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trisquel, Phones, and File Sharing | Tux Machines [17:26] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [17:26] techrights-bot 23 Best Open Source Text Editors (GUI + CLI) in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146626 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw [17:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 23 Best Open Source Text Editors (GUI + CLI) in 2021 | Tux Machines [17:27] techrights-bot What is Login Shell in Linux? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146627 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Login Shell in Linux? | Tux Machines [17:29] techrights-bot #Terminology 1.9 Terminal Emulator Works Better with Debian-Based Systems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146628 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.50 [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Terminology 1.9 Terminal Emulator Works Better with Debian-Based Systems | Tux Machines [17:30] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:32] techrights-bot #JingOS Linux release this month, looks a lot like iPadOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146598#comment-27850 #gnu #linux [17:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | JingOS arrives as Chinas first Linux Distro, offers iPadOS-like features and functions | Tux Machines [17:32] MinceR a copy of crap [17:34] schestowitz__ yup [17:34] schestowitz__ but... made in China.. like the 'i' things [17:35] vZS1_2 Most of our hardware comes from China anyway [17:35] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: in this particular case it was not a sensitive paste [17:35] schestowitz__ just a copy of what's in this channel today [17:36] schestowitz__ I'll merge that into the logs tonight, manually [17:36] vZS1_2 It was just a general PSA. [17:36] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [17:39] vZS1_2 If you're using that option anyway, you can look up "--passphrase-fd". Quite a flexible option. Can use fd 0 for stdin. [17:41] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146637 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:43] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: I'm watching the latest Intelleaks video. [17:43] techrights-bot #Krita 4.4.2 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146636 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [17:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Krita 4.4.2 Released | Tux Machines [17:43] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: ok, good.. [17:45] techrights-bot #XanMod s Linux 5.10 Kernel Helping Tap Extra Performance With The #AMD #Ryzen 9 5900X http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146635 #GNU #Linux [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XanMod's Linux 5.10 Kernel Helping Tap Extra Performance With The AMD Ryzen 9 5900X | Tux Machines [17:46] techrights-bot Best Information Gathering Tools in #KaliLinux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146634 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Information Gathering Tools in Kali Linux | Tux Machines [17:47] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:47] techrights-bot http [17:48] techrights-bot #AWS wants to tempt customers into switching to GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146633 #GNU #Linux #Amazon [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AWS wants to tempt customers into switching to Linux | Tux Machines [17:49] techrights-bot #Krita 4.4.2 Released with Mesh Gradients and Transforms, over 300 Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146632 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Krita 4.4.2 Released with Mesh Gradients and Transforms, over 300 Changes | Tux Machines [17:50] techrights-bot #HowTo Install Wine 6.0 on Ubuntu 20.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146631 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install Wine 6.0 on Ubuntu 20.04 | Tux Machines [17:52] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [17:53] techrights-bot #HowTo create .desktop shortcut Icon to App Manager in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146638 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to create .desktop shortcut Icon to App Manager in Linux | Tux Machines [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:54] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726339.jpg [17:58] schestowitz__ :-D [17:58] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Jan 19 [18:01] vZS1_2 IDE = I'm too stupid to use a computer properly [18:01] vZS1_2 The OS is the IDE. [18:02] vZS1_2 I guess these people never studied books like "The UNIX Programming Environment" [18:04] MinceR and those people write most code in use in IT [18:04] MinceR what could possibly go wrong? [18:04] vZS1_2 Yep [18:08] kingoffrance ide == your code is as portable as the ide is [18:09] kingoffrance seedable i should say [18:10] vZS1_2 Microsoft and Oracle have successfully taught 2 generations that you can't program without an IDE [18:10] kingoffrance but id put seedability underneath "portable" [18:10] kingoffrance build v runtime portability [18:11] vZS1_2 The use of "interpreted" languages made the situation worse. Most people out there probably don't know how to compile a "hello_world.c" with GCC. [18:11] vZS1_2 s/use/widespread use/ [18:12] kingoffrance well "objects" too [18:12] kingoffrance theres a linker object, and like FILE * "object", and OO "objects" , and ... [18:13] *balrog has quit (Quit: Bye) [18:14] vZS1_2 I don't think they'd even be able to interact with files. It's all "databases" now. [18:14] vZS1_2 Screw files. Who needs them? [18:14] vZS1_2 ClownDB REST API; innit bruv? [18:17] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zF-3nbymP8 [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-American Idiot but interest was quickly lost - YouTube [18:17] *balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights [18:20] vZS1_2 Let me just grab my Terraform files for my clowns. I should have GCP Kubernetes cluster templates in a template file somewhere. [18:21] vZS1_2 Or why even bother with the CLI! Let's just use the GCP console! [18:22] vZS1_2 *happy point-and-click adventure* [18:22] MinceR lol [18:23] vZS1_2 Trust in me. I'm a certified YAML engineer. [18:24] vZS1_2 #DevSecInfoDBClownServerlessOps [18:24] vZS1_2 Can I be DX now? [18:24] psydroid oh, that's it [18:25] psydroid Windows in the cloud [18:25] psydroid what everyone has always wanted [18:25] schestowitz__ clown [18:25] psydroid Microsoft point-and-click web console expert [18:25] MinceR there's an advantage to Backdoors in the Clown, though [18:25] MinceR you don't have to run it on your machine [18:26] schestowitz__ "Other attention-grabbing names, like Julian Assange, are also not currently believed to among the people receiving pardons, but the list is still fluid and that could change, too." [18:26] schestowitz__ https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html [18:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Trump to issue around 100 pardons and commutations Tuesday, sources say - CNNPolitics [18:26] schestowitz__ attention-grabbing [18:26] MinceR if it wants to download backdoors^Wupdates and reboot 9001 times per day, it can do so without bothering you so much [18:26] psydroid yeah [18:26] schestowitz__ yes, journalism is just 'trolls'... [18:28] vZS1_2 It's comedy for us but the devs in Intel take orders from these people..... [18:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.40 [18:29] psydroid and that makes it even funnier [18:29] schestowitz__ yup, very sad [18:29] schestowitz__ what people would do for a big salary [18:29] schestowitz__ get bossed by suits with no understanding [18:30] vZS1_2 The suits get a lot more pay, usually. [18:30] vZS1_2 Unless it's a startup where the devs also are the suits [18:31] kingoffrance re: passphrase option, some bsds let you limit ps output to not see other users; i guess a flag on elf or fs attribute or something would be ideal, to set on particular binaries; i would agree generally if you dont know if that is present, and even if you do, to avoid putting such stuff on command line [18:34] vZS1_2 Yeah. If we are worried about ps(1) output _only_, you could use a file instead. Either via "--passphrase-fd" or "--passphrase-file". [18:36] vZS1_2 Another related tip is to never copy passphrases into screen(1) or tmux(1) buffers. It's a PITA but do it manually. [18:36] schestowitz__ the video uploads are a lot faster now [18:36] schestowitz__ but we'll see what happens in the coming days [18:37] schestowitz__ it also 'felt' resolved the first day last week after the eng was here [18:37] schestowitz__ no reason to think a router alone of a hub can sort things out [18:37] vZS1_2 They're probably just stalling. lol [18:38] vZS1_2 Appeasement [18:38] techrights-bot A firm called #HarborResearch is making dubious recommendations to #Intel ; as shown in the above video, theres also an obsession with #buzzwords (typically suggestive of a lack of technical grasp/understanding) http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/harbor-research-recommendations/ [18:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXI: Intel Seeking Advice From a Bunch of Clowns (Harbor Research) | Techrights [18:41] techrights-bot #JUVE quit being a news site and chose to be #propaganda #lobby for #TeamUPC https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/legal-commentary/a-drawn-out-upc-process-would-damage-democracy/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | "A drawn-out UPC process would damage democracy" - JUVE Patent [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [18:43] techrights-bot The horrendous logic of #JUVE is, we need to rush courts to force-feed Europe something that is not legal (for fear that time will make more people aware of it). http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [18:44] techrights-bot "The defendants brought a nullity counterclaim, in particular for contrariety to the public order and lack of novelty." #fakepatents #france #fr #europe http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/19/kit-crack-commandments/ [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Kit Crack Commandments - Kluwer Patent Blog [18:45] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: they also close tickets/complaints in a rush [18:46] schestowitz__ before there's any confirmation that things get resolved [18:46] schestowitz__ and they make it difficult to reopen those complaints [18:46] DaemonFC[m] "Trump will depart the White House South Lawn via Marine One for Joint Base Andrews early tomorrow morning, giving Pence a chance to bid farewell to the President then." [18:47] DaemonFC[m] So long and thanks for almost getting me killed. [18:47] DaemonFC[m] Awwwwwwkwaaaaaard [18:48] techrights-bot "The scale of Boko Haram's insurgency in northeastern #Nigeria has long been clear." https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2021/01/19/Nigeria-bandits-peace-zamfara-fulani-pastoralism #ng #africa #terrorism #islamists [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Nigerias growing bandit industry, and a bid to curtail it [18:51] techrights-bot "The impact of Brexit on patents will be felt only in respect to the unitary European patent," it says, but there's no such thing. #UPC is just dead. http://www.codozasady.pl/en/intellectual-property-after-brexit/ [18:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.codozasady.pl | Intellectual property after Brexit | In Principle [18:55] techrights-bot #EthicalSource is Not Ethical and Not a Movement But a Misguided Self-Serving PR Stunt http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/unethical-source/ #Techrights #zdnet #cbs #FreeSW [18:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ethical Source is Not Ethical and Not a Movement But a Misguided Self-Serving PR Stunt | Techrights [18:56] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/XGadgeX.jpg ● Jan 19 [19:01] techrights-bot #Ubuntu Blog: What is #PostgreSQL and why do enterprise developers and start-ups love it? https://ubuntu.com//blog/managed-postgresql #psql #postgres [19:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is PostgreSQL and why do enterprise developers and start-ups love it? | Ubuntu [19:01] vZS1_2 I forgot to mention something [19:02] vZS1_2 Because of "/proc/pid/cmdline" you can give away a lot more than you thought you would. [19:07] vZS1_2 An invocation of `$ xxd -b /proc/pid/cmdline | less` will show that ps(1) isn't telling the full story. [19:08] CrystalMath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwejQBIyjow [19:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How 'Pro-Choice' are Democrats? - YouTube [19:08] CrystalMath old video, but still very much relevant [19:10] techrights-bot Another New #GNU #Linux #Laptop has Arrived http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146438#comment-27851 [19:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slimbook reveal the Ryzen 7 and RTX 3070 powered Titan | Tux Machines [19:11] schestowitz__ CrystalMath: corporations do not support choice [19:12] schestowitz__ CrystalMath: you know the political orientation of techrgihts is cynical about corporate democrats [19:12] schestowitz__ later this week expect more cynicism about Biden [19:12] schestowitz__ once he's official president [19:12] schestowitz__ and will do things 'by mistake' [19:12] schestowitz__ and so-called liberals will pretend it's not really happening [19:12] schestowitz__ he's just "misguided" [19:12] schestowitz__ or "misunderstood" [19:12] schestowitz__ TPP might come back [19:13] schestowitz__ [18:24] #DevSecInfoDBClownServerlessOps [19:13] schestowitz__ HEY HI [19:14] *genBTC is now known as genr8_ [19:16] psydroid Intel is pivoting towards Microsoft also for clown computing, because Amazon, Oracle and other clown companies are moving towards (their own) ARM processors for their respective clowns [19:16] psydroid at least with Microsoft they will be able to sell their processors for running Backdoored servers and desktops in the clown [19:16] techrights-bot #Steamworks gets #Denuvo Anti-Cheat, here's what Irdeto say about GNU #Linux support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/steamworks-gets-denuvo-anti-cheat-heres-what-irdeto-say-about-linux-support but #DRM is a VERYBADTHING(R) [19:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steamworks gets Denuvo Anti-Cheat, here's what Irdeto say about Linux support | GamingOnLinux [19:17] psydroid I've read numbers that Amazon Graviton 2 has taken 10% of Amazon's server share and Graviton 3 is coming [19:17] vZS1_2 psydroid: I hope we can use libreboot or something similar on the RISC-V SBCs. That would be very nice. [19:17] schestowitz__ it's still very nice [19:17] schestowitz__ and new [19:17] schestowitz__ give it a few more years [19:17] schestowitz__ [17:48] #AWS wants to tempt customers into switching to GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146633 [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AWS wants to tempt customers into switching to Linux | Tux Machines [19:18] vZS1_2 GNU/Linux or the mainstream BSDs are the only practical options for a business. [19:18] techrights-bot "You can grab the classic Moonstone here, which GOG have nicely packaged up for Linux with DOSBox." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/gog-has-a-huge-sale-on-rpgs-and-sees-the-return-of-the-classic-moonstone [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOG has a huge sale on RPGs and sees the return of the classic Moonstone | GamingOnLinux [19:18] psydroid vZS1_2, yes, and I also found out through some other articles that the final product to be launched in September will have 4 cores instead of 2, as well as the Imagination graphics (which might have free drivers) [19:19] vZS1_2 psydroid: all sounds like good news to me. [19:20] vZS1_2 I think I'll just wait for the September launch. [19:20] vZS1_2 Wouldn't have the time to do any proper study of any SBC I buy now anyway. [19:22] techrights-bot #Chiaki decided to #deletegithub and is now enjoying freedom, not #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/open-source-playstation-4-and-playstation-5-remote-play-client-chiaki-has-a-final-release [19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open source PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5 Remote Play client Chiaki has a final release | GamingOnLinux [19:22] vZS1_2 Re: Windows on servers. You must be out of your mind to actually let Windows be the host OS on a server. [19:22] psydroid I am not overly interested in this first release, but hardware availability will be good for porting and testing GNU/Linux distributions [19:23] vZS1_2 Pretty much every competent infra operation will put some *nix OS as host and run Windows in a VM, if Windows is needed. [19:24] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/clean-2 [19:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Clean [19:24] vZS1_2 That way, if Windows crashes, it doesn't matter. The VMs are dispensible. [19:24] vZS1_2 And Windows will crash, unexpectedly. [19:24] vZS1_2 At least once a year. [19:25] psydroid That's all I have for the off-chance I need access to it [19:25] vZS1_2 For whatever reason Windows wants to crash. We can't tell because no source. [19:25] vZS1_2 psydroid: I lost context. What are you referring to when you say "That's" in "That's all I have ..."? [19:26] psydroid Windows 10 in Virtualbox for some software for my studies [19:26] vZS1_2 Yeah. Only sane course of action. [19:27] vZS1_2 Ideally, you want a filesystem that can take snapshots of the stuff the VM is on. [19:27] vZS1_2 Incremental snapshots help. [19:27] vZS1_2 That's where something like ZFS is actually justified. [19:28] vZS1_2 So you can actually save yourself when Windows decide to go tits up. [19:28] vZS1_2 s/decide/decides/ [19:28] techrights-bot Joey Sneddon of #omgubuntu latest: "How to Install #Microsoft Edge on Ubuntu & Linux Mint" Just in case you still thought this site was actually advancing #freesw and #gnu #linux [19:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 22.28 [19:29] vZS1_2 Ngl, dealing with the utter dumpsterfire that Windows is taught me a lot about building robust systems. [19:32] techrights-bot linuxtechlab dot com today: "10 Ways to Get More out of your Mac" WTH, rename your Web site, LOL. [19:36] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146639 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:37] techrights-bot Something which is neither enforceable nor ethical is being promoted by profoundly unethical media in the pockets of large corporations http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/unethical-source/ #ethicalsource #trolls #osi #freesw #zdnet [19:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ethical Source is Not Ethical and Not a Movement But a Misguided Self-Serving PR Stunt | Techrights [19:38] techrights-bot Of course the site of #spamnil is promoting the #ethicalsource #trolls today. The site used to be called #muktware but nowadays does what's antithetical to that name. [19:39] techrights-bot The #UPC lobby is becoming ever more desperate now. #teamUPC #lies #fingerPointing #lobbying [19:42] techrights-bot #copyright #law for and by the #copyright #cartel or few monopolies, even those that are foreign to the country where they meddle in law-making http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/sony-warner-universal-mostly-dont.html [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Sony, Warner & Universal (mostly don't) answer questions at the UK Music Streaming Inquiry - The IPKat [19:44] vZS1_2 More SJVN BS. *sigh* [19:44] psydroid Yes, I always put Windows in virtual machines with snapshots and even reverting to a relatively pristine state, because anything else leads to insanity [19:45] techrights-bot Games: Mbius Front 83, Steamworks, NERTS! Online, Stellaris and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146640 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #games [19:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Mbius Front '83, Steamworks, NERTS! Online, Stellaris and More | Tux Machines [19:46] techrights-bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Clean https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/clean-2 #smbc [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Clean [19:47] techrights-bot LOL SMART !! SMART SMART SMART https://www.maketecheasier.com/samsung-announces-tile-like-device-galaxy-smarttags/ [19:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Samsung Announces Tile-Like Device: Galaxy SmartTags - Make Tech Easier [19:49] techrights-bot Today we installed what #BT calls not only "Smart Hub" but "Smart Hub 2". So from version inflation, Hub 2...3...4...5 they rebranded as "Smart" (nothing smart about it!) and count up again. So laughable. [19:52] techrights-bot #linuxfoundation exploits blacks for PR, even though it does nothing for blacks https://www.linux.com/news/blacks-in-technology-and-the-linux-foundation-partner-to-offer-up-to-100000-in-training-certification-to-deserving-individuals/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-com [19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blacks In Technology and The Linux Foundation Partner to Offer up to $100,000 in Training & Certification to Deserving Individuals - Linux.com [19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights [19:52] schestowitz__ and http://techrights.org/2019/03/26/lf-define-support/ [19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: The Linux Foundation Needs to Define Support | Techrights [19:54] techrights-bot They mention "Linux" but the issue is not Linux; that's like blaming "Windows" for Photoshop back doors https://www.csoonline.com/article/3603929/flaws-in-widely-used-dnsmasq-software-leave-millions-of-linux-based-devices-exposed.html [19:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | Flaws in widely used dnsmasq software leave millions of Linux-based devices exposed | CSO Online [19:57] techrights-bot Planet's Astro Slide Phone Adds Keyboard, Deletes Google http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146482#comment-27852 #gnu #linux #debian #kde [19:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding Astro Slide 5G smartphone ships in June, has a physical keyboard, and promises Linux support | Tux Machines ● Jan 19 [20:00] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146643 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [20:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:03] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: golang https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/linux-malware-authors-use-ezuri-golang-crypter-for-zero-detection/ [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Linux malware authors use Ezuri Golang crypter for zero detection [20:05] techrights-bot This is wrongly blaming "Linux" and "golang" because people can use Linux and code malware/write code in Go. This is what Microsoft-connected sites keeps doing, because "Microsoft loves Linux..." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/linux-malware-authors-use-ezuri-golang-crypter-for-zero-detection/ [20:06] techrights-bot Almost all the server-side software runs on "Linux", some of it is secure if patched, but when sysadmins neglect to patch that software, let's just blame the platform https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-freakout-botnet-targets-linux-systems-running-unpatched-software/ [20:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New FreakOut botnet targets Linux systems running unpatched software | ZDNet [20:09] techrights-bot 8 Must-Try #Freesw #ERP Systems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146642 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Must-Try Open Source ERP Systems | Tux Machines [20:10] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/war [20:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - War [20:10] techrights-bot #Cutelyst 2.14.2 and #ASql 0.27 released! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146641 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cutelyst 2.14.2 and ASql 0.27 released! | Tux Machines [20:12] techrights-bot #intel is falling way behind among developers https://www.electropages.com/2021/01/complete-software-solution-now-available-linux-arm [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.electropages.com | Complete software solution now available for Linux on ARM [20:14] techrights-bot #Librewolf and #Inkscape updated in #PCLinuxOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141761#comment-27855 [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS Review: This Classic Independent Linux Distribution is Definitely Worth a Look | Tux Machines [20:18] techrights-bot #GNU #Linux copies the iPad to capture tablets and hybrids http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146598#comment-27856 #china #jingos #Ginkgo [20:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | JingOS arrives as Chinas first Linux Distro, offers iPadOS-like features and functions | Tux Machines [20:19] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: "January 7, 2021". Relatively recent. [20:20] schestowitz__ which one? [20:20] vZS1_2 bleeping [20:22] techrights-bot #bbc not talking about that #viagragate in #norway ... other sites do however. Is BBC too busy marketing the #clinicalTrials of its main sponsor #bill gates ? Corrupt publisher. Working for reckless profiteers. [20:24] techrights-bot #viagraCompany and #billgates : give our products to old and vulnerable people first; #norway : no, don't do that, it can kill them. So who would you give that to? Young people whom #covid19 rarely kills anyway? [20:25] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146645 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [20:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:27] techrights-bot Not So Open Any More: #Elasticsearch Relicensing and Implications for #freesw Search http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146644 [20:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Not So Open Any More: Elasticsearch Relicensing and Implications for Open Source Search | Tux Machines [20:27] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [20:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.66 [20:29] techrights-bot #Parler Tricks: Making Software Disappear https://puri.sm/posts/parler-tricks-making-software-disappear/ #Monopolies #censorship [20:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Parler Tricks: Making Software Disappear Purism [20:31] techrights-bot Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn #PureScript - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-purescript/ #programming [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn PureScript - LinuxLinks [20:32] techrights-bot Public Key Vs Private Key In #Cryptography https://www.theitstuff.com/public-key-vs-private-key-in-cryptography only #e2ee actually works http://techrights.org/2020/11/27/encrypt-with-e2ee-in-depth-article/ [20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Public Key vs Private Key in Cryptography | TheITstuff [20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guarding Your Privacy With E2EE: Primer | Techrights [20:39] techrights-bot Gaming On #GNU #Linux Is Super Comfy - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2qVbAyaRtc #Video #Google #YouTube [20:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gaming On Linux Is Super Comfy - YouTube [20:40] techrights-bot A First Look At Manjaro Sway Edition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edt01ft9ojI #gnu #linux [20:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A First Look At Manjaro Sway Edition - YouTube [20:44] techrights-bot The #SSPL is Not an #OpenSource License http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146644#comment-27857 even rogue #OSI objects to it [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Not So Open Any More: Elasticsearch Relicensing and Implications for Open Source Search | Tux Machines [20:46] psydroid http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=153543&doclang=EN [20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-curia.europa.eu | CURIA - Documents [20:47] psydroid "28 First, according to the contested decision, Intel awarded four OEMs, namely Dell, Lenovo, HP and NEC, rebates which were conditioned on these OEMs purchasing all or almost all of their x86 CPUs from Intel. Similarly, Intel awarded payments to MSH, which were conditioned on MSH selling exclusively computers containing Intels x86 CPUs." [20:48] schestowitz__ But Intel has changed logos [20:48] schestowitz__ so all is forgotten now [20:49] psydroid https://www.extremetech.com/computing/184323-intel-stuck-with-1-45-billion-fine-in-europe-for-unfair-and-damaging-practices-against-amd [20:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel stuck with $1.45 billion fine in Europe for unfair and damaging practices against AMD - ExtremeTech [20:49] psydroid "That it paid retail stores rebates to only stock x86 parts." [20:49] psydroid competing on merit my *** [20:50] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, Intel-based laptops have gotten MUCH cheaper lately. [20:50] DaemonFC[m] I noticed that. [20:50] schestowitz__ competition [20:50] DaemonFC[m] Lenovo knocked the $1,500 Thinkbooks down to like $850. [20:51] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, probably Intel and Microsoft had to lower their prices significantly. [20:51] DaemonFC[m] There's just not much more you can do with a Windows computer these days than with anyone else's. [20:52] techrights-bot Audiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux, Destination Linux and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146646 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux, Destination Linux and More | Tux Machines [20:52] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20122013 [20:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5112193) [20:52] vZS1_2 If someone _needs_ a $1k+ computer, they should educate themselves enough to build one themselves. [20:52] MinceR it isn't exactly easy to build a laptop [20:53] MinceR especially a particularly portable one [20:53] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: it's not legal [20:53] schestowitz__ ask Apple ;-) [20:53] schestowitz__ you cannot even legally repair those [20:53] schestowitz__ 'your' computer [20:53] schestowitz__ going to record another one while the connection is still fast [20:54] vZS1_2 If you _need_ a laptop that expensive, you are screwed. [20:54] vZS1_2 If you can make do with a portable desktop, you are fine. [20:54] schestowitz__ gut feeling says it'll go bonkers again tomorrow as merely swapping a hub isn't finding a solution (it was their idea, which I objected to as it made no sense) [20:54] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: you need to work harder [20:54] schestowitz__ $30 perfumed [20:54] schestowitz__ $1500 laptops [20:54] schestowitz__ $10 bottles of wine [20:54] schestowitz__ $30 dinners [20:55] schestowitz__ let them drown in debt [20:55] schestowitz__ and struggle when COVID leaves them out of work and savings [20:55] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: MARISOL [20:55] schestowitz__ yesterday rianne went hunting for loads of food about quarter price [20:56] vZS1_2 The laptop market is driven by a tight grip on availability of modular components. [20:56] vZS1_2 It's completely hyperinflated due to that tight control [20:56] schestowitz__ repair rights harmed [20:56] MinceR portable desktops are still very impractical for many use cases [20:56] schestowitz__ as if repair is a "right" now [20:56] schestowitz__ and you need to demand... the "right" to repair what you own [20:56] vZS1_2 Also, you can just use a remote terminal laptop [20:56] schestowitz__ DRM is yet worse [20:56] schestowitz__ and streaming... don't get us started ;0) [20:56] vZS1_2 To a proper workstation [20:56] vZS1_2 I say this all the time. Falls on deaf ears. [20:57] MinceR yes, but that's still a laptop [20:57] schestowitz__ my laptops rarely leave the room [20:57] vZS1_2 You don't need to spend more than a couple hundred on a portable terminal [20:57] schestowitz__ let alone the home [20:57] MinceR and if you need to connect to that workstation on the go, you'll probably need a cellular connection, which is something other people say you shouldn't have :> [20:57] MinceR depends on how portable you want it to be [20:57] schestowitz__ upside is, no need for outages when the power goes out if it does [20:58] vZS1_2 I refuse to believe you can't make do with a shoddy laptop for a portable terminal [20:58] schestowitz__ MinceR: people were not so portable last year :-) [20:58] schestowitz__ or "mobile" [20:58] schestowitz__ lots of people with "mobile" cell "smart" phones [20:58] schestowitz__ which they used at home [20:58] schestowitz__ could used landline instead [20:58] vZS1_2 You have Wifi in almost every hotel/motel [20:58] schestowitz__ cordless and landline [20:59] MinceR dunno, i went to my holiday house a lot last year [20:59] schestowitz__ how many holiday homes? [20:59] MinceR one [20:59] schestowitz__ nice [20:59] vZS1_2 I still am vehemently opposed to overpriced laptops [20:59] MinceR it's much easier to avoid ratlickers there and much more practical to travel by car ● Jan 19 [21:00] schestowitz__ it's a swindle [21:00] vZS1_2 Get a proper workstation and use a remote terminal [21:00] schestowitz__ I can never understand who (or why anyone would) buy these [21:00] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: remember there are no premium laptops [21:00] schestowitz__ not in the general market [21:00] schestowitz__ so those are like the Ferrari scams [21:00] vZS1_2 What is a "premium laptop"? [21:00] schestowitz__ you pay for "name" and "designer" [21:00] vZS1_2 Oh [21:00] schestowitz__ and class climbing ambition [21:01] schestowitz__ the manufacturing does not cost much more [21:01] vZS1_2 So fashion statements [21:01] schestowitz__ the components are mostly the same [21:01] schestowitz__ yes, fashion [21:01] schestowitz__ that's what those brightly-lit Apple things are [21:01] schestowitz__ with their shiny logos [21:01] schestowitz__ sipping away at the battery [21:01] MinceR "premium" usually means "overpriced" [21:01] schestowitz__ like "luxury" cars [21:02] schestowitz__ let the fools buy those [21:02] schestowitz__ who other people save and get RealWork(r) done [21:02] schestowitz__ SPAMnil bragged about a $15000 "mac" he ordered [21:02] schestowitz__ later he ranted in twitter [21:02] schestowitz__ after bragging along the lines of "I can afford!" [21:02] schestowitz__ he said he needed ro reboot it every day [21:03] schestowitz__ there does your $15000 down the drain [21:03] schestowitz__ get your mortgage, reboot every morning [21:03] schestowitz__ it was hilarious, we covered it in TR in passing [21:03] schestowitz__ then you have stories like my friend who bought a "sport car"... and then needed to change wheels [21:04] schestowitz__ just to repair the wheel cost him like a whole new cars [21:04] schestowitz__ suffice to say, he told that junk [21:04] vZS1_2 A remote terminal should have: a good screen, long battery life, good network card, appropriate peripheral support for your work. [21:04] schestowitz__ at like half the price he had bought it for... after hid dad died, leaving him inheritance money [21:04] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: yup! [21:04] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: one of my laptop runs vlc over ssh on my main laptop [21:05] schestowitz__ so I can control the playlist with an always-visible session [21:05] schestowitz__ and separate mouse [21:05] vZS1_2 I use a full-sized keyboard as well. Laptop keyboards are a farce. [21:05] schestowitz__ just counted... 17 windows in sight at the moment [21:05] schestowitz__ across 6 screens [21:05] schestowitz__ actually 18 [21:06] schestowitz__ I forgot to count the file manager, dolphin [21:06] schestowitz__ vallor: laptop keyboards used to be ok [21:06] schestowitz__ then they got rid of tactile [21:06] schestowitz__ no idea why [21:06] schestowitz__ maybe cheaper that way [21:06] schestowitz__ you can still find the "old school" keyboard at stores [21:06] schestowitz__ I should have stocked up on those [21:06] vZS1_2 I only use retro keyboards [21:06] schestowitz__ as they get harder to find [21:06] schestowitz__ IBM spent ages refining those [21:07] vZS1_2 You can still get retro keyboards [21:07] schestowitz__ lots of trial and error [21:07] schestowitz__ also for repair [21:07] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: not on laptops [21:07] schestowitz__ over time it was getting harder and harder to find those [21:07] schestowitz__ in recent years I used external keyboard over usb for the laptop [21:07] schestowitz__ much wider and better feedback on the finger [21:09] vZS1_2 I meant USB keyboards [21:09] vZS1_2 should have mentioned that [21:10] techrights-bot #Python #Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146647 [21:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux Machines [21:13] vZS1_2 I still don't buy the argument of being able to get real work done hunched over a tiny screen. [21:14] vZS1_2 That's how you screw up your body. [21:14] schestowitz__ I still have foldable keyboard for the Palm PDAS [21:14] schestowitz__ two of them [21:14] schestowitz__ it folds into full size [21:14] vZS1_2 Yeah, RSI is no joke. [21:14] schestowitz__ I wrote loads on that [21:14] schestowitz__ ask EPO [21:14] schestowitz__ plague there [21:14] schestowitz__ RSI and similar [21:15] vZS1_2 We probably are at the extreme end in terms of typing volume. So these things all add up. [21:16] schestowitz__ brb, recording [21:16] psydroid my sister got RSI and didn't work for 6 months until her surgery [21:18] vZS1_2 Plenty of people struggle to use a keyboard because they didn't take RSI seriously enough at the start. [21:18] vZS1_2 Incorrect keyboard usage is also to blame [21:19] vZS1_2 People don't alternate the "shift" keys and "ctrl" keys [21:19] vZS1_2 There's a reason pretty much every keyboard has two of each [21:19] vZS1_2 If yours doesn't, chuck it out the window and get a proper one [21:20] *DVulgaris has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:20] psydroid I also alternate between hands handling the mouse [21:20] psydroid and I used to have a trackball as well [21:21] psydroid I should get a new one [21:23] vZS1_2 Haven't tried trackballs yet. [21:23] vZS1_2 I barely touch the mouse [21:24] vZS1_2 Most of my mouse usage comes from web browser interaction or VLC [21:26] psydroid I don't touch it a lot these days either [21:26] vZS1_2 I do like those drawing tablet things, though. Handy for interactive whiteboards. [21:26] *DVulgaris (~quassel@185.108.81.14) has joined #techrights [21:26] vZS1_2 I have one called XP-Pen. Don't remember the model. [21:26] psydroid but I do remember having RSI-related problems in the past [21:26] *mmu_man_ (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [21:26] vZS1_2 I use the Digimend drivers for it. Supports GNU/Linux just fine. [21:27] vZS1_2 https://digimend.github.io/drivers/ [21:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digimend.github.io | DIGImend - Drivers [21:28] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [21:28] vZS1_2 Supported tablets: https://digimend.github.io/tablets/ [21:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digimend.github.io | DIGImend - Tablets [21:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.61 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.20 [21:29] vZS1_2 Those are really good for doing presentations [21:29] vZS1_2 You can just hook it up to a laptop and fire up the GIMP. [21:29] psydroid I'll look into those [21:29] vZS1_2 Beats any "smart"whiteboard nonsense [21:30] vZS1_2 Those "smart"whiteboards are a scam [21:30] vZS1_2 Overpriced trash [21:30] vZS1_2 Hook up to a projector or you can stream over internet even [21:32] vZS1_2 psydroid: if you do get one, get one with replaceable tips for the pen. It's like a mechanical pencil but magnitudes more annoying. [21:32] psydroid many people don't realise an older computer and cheaper but well-supported periphals with the right software van be just as useful as new overpriced trash [21:33] vZS1_2 Precisely [21:33] vZS1_2 USB3 ports make a big difference. That's worth paying a bit extra for. [21:35] schestowitz__ done [21:35] vZS1_2 That's why anything crApple is a joke. Peripherals? What peripherals? [21:35] vZS1_2 iPeripherals or noPeripherals. You choose. [21:38] DaemonFC[m] Maricel and Mark. [21:39] DaemonFC[m] Saying how much they love the complimentary refreshments while the BMW mechanics are emptying their bank account again this week over a simple repair. [21:39] DaemonFC[m] Welcome to $1,000 wheel bearing jobs and $2,500 for an air conditioning wire short. [21:40] vZS1_2 "smart"car. [21:41] DaemonFC[m] What kind of an idiot buys something that depreciates, get this, 80% in the first 3 years then has it in the shop every month paying twice as much to fix anything as another brand of car with the same problem (which usually begins on those cars after 7-8 years)? [21:41] schestowitz__ [21:40] "smart"car. [21:41] schestowitz__ window won't open [21:41] schestowitz__ call the Marcines [21:41] schestowitz__ *Marines [21:41] DaemonFC[m] The reason it depreciates 70 or 80% in 3 years is because buyers know that you don't want to pay a ton of money for a used luxury car. They have all kinds of problems. The snob appeal has worn off. [21:41] psydroid I was gifted those iEarthings (don't remember the name) after winning a raffle, but I can't get them to work with anything ranging from my laptops to various phones [21:42] DaemonFC[m] It's possible you get one that just happens to work okay for a long time, but it's more likely you won't. [21:42] DaemonFC[m] They put all kinds of unnecessary sensors and motors and crap on them. [21:42] vZS1_2 Buy a robust Toyota or something. End of story. [21:42] DaemonFC[m] All kinds of electrical problems. CPU failures. You name it. [21:42] MinceR isn't a Toyota Land Cruiser considered a luxury car? :> [21:43] vZS1_2 *shrug* [21:43] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: I've never had a car other than the Kia (which was new) where the power mirrors still work. [21:43] DaemonFC[m] You want to aim the side mirrors, you have to roll down the window and use your finger on them and then lean back in the car and see if that's where you want it. [21:43] vZS1_2 Analog cars are generally the hardiest. Hand cranked windows pls. [21:44] vZS1_2 Some things should remain mechanical [21:44] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: Most people have a few "I had a piece of junk but at least there weren't any monthly payments." stories. [21:44] MinceR DaemonFC[m]: my current car is the only car i've ever owned that has power mirrors [21:44] DaemonFC[m] Cars develop a "personality" as they get older. [21:44] MinceR it's a Suzuki Vitara and it works great [21:44] DaemonFC[m] Things work or don't work depending on what "mood" the car is in that day. [21:45] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: For the last 2 years the Impala would, half the time, sound the alarm if I opened the door with my key. [21:45] MinceR :> [21:45] DaemonFC[m] Then the sensor for the door failed and it thinks the door is always shut now and the alarm doesn't go off if I unlock it with the key. [21:45] vZS1_2 psydroid: you need the right iScam for the the right iPeripheral. [21:46] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: I told my mom about that, and using weather-resistant tape to fix a headlight that's splitting and leaking. [21:46] DaemonFC[m] She was laughing pretty hard. [21:47] DaemonFC[m] I said it was $2 for the tape or $80 for a headlamp cover. [21:47] DaemonFC[m] We're well past the point where you want to throw $80 at a problem like this. [21:48] vZS1_2 If you live in a well-developed city, you can make do with public transport. Better for the environment. Cheaper too, generally. [21:48] DaemonFC[m] $80 is more than a winter electric bill for the month. [21:49] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, but to use it Mandy would have to walk to the Metra train station to catch the bus and back after it drops him off. [21:50] DaemonFC[m] The neighborhood isn't as terrible as South Shore, but there is some crime. [21:50] vZS1_2 Fair enough. Sometimes shift hours can make it problematic. [21:50] schestowitz__ here also [21:50] schestowitz__ I heard horrible stories [21:51] vZS1_2 One of the best public transportation systems I've used is the one in Warsaw [21:51] vZS1_2 24/7. Cheap as dirt too. [21:52] vZS1_2 Trams, busses, and trains are available round the clock. [21:52] schestowitz__ can it be ridden anonymously? [21:52] vZS1_2 Many types of tickets [21:52] vZS1_2 Yea. You can pay in cash [21:52] schestowitz__ with oyster the london tube has spying obligatory with your id included [21:52] schestowitz__ no need for facial rec or 'phone' [21:53] vZS1_2 You can buy tickets from the counter [21:53] schestowitz__ cool [21:53] vZS1_2 ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS SELLING TICKETS! [21:53] schestowitz__ last i ehcked the british rail was more anon-friendly than london tube [21:53] schestowitz__ as you could still buy tickets without cards [21:53] vZS1_2 London is nanny-state-plus [21:53] vZS1_2 So no surprise there [21:54] schestowitz__ and with first class tickets you can surf the web [21:54] schestowitz__ without giving personal details [21:54] schestowitz__ not sure if in 2021 it's still applicable and accurate [21:54] schestowitz__ I have not taken a train for 12 months [21:54] vZS1_2 The UK public transportation system is a ripoff. Everything is overpriced. No competition either. [21:54] vZS1_2 I am still waiting for Labour to renationalise the damn system.... [21:55] schestowitz__ yeah [21:55] schestowitz__ but, first they need to win an election [21:55] schestowitz__ tories weaponised grumpy ol people [21:55] vZS1_2 Brexit means Brexit. [21:55] schestowitz__ make britland great 'gain [21:55] vZS1_2 #strongandstable [21:56] schestowitz__ so you can sip afternoon tea all day long [21:56] schestowitz__ strong means police state [21:56] schestowitz__ stable means May dancing and prancing [21:56] vZS1_2 When Poland is outdoing you, you know something isn't right.... [21:56] schestowitz__ in covid, yes [21:57] vZS1_2 I meant in terms of public transport [21:57] schestowitz__ ah, ok [21:57] vZS1_2 The trains in Sweden are cheaper than in London. [21:57] vZS1_2 Let that sink in. [21:57] vZS1_2 Stockholm* [21:59] MinceR https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1985991742_16.jpg [21:59] vZS1_2 lol ● Jan 19 [22:01] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/PPOmmRT [22:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The handsome boibs - Album on Imgur [22:01] techrights-bot "GigaIPC unveiled two compact, IP67-protected QBix-WP computers with #GNU #Linux support" http://linuxgizmos.com/rugged-systems-provide-ip67-waterproofing/ [22:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged systems provide IP67 waterproofing [22:03] techrights-bot #watchtroll has a new piece entitled "Bidens Opportunity to Protect American Innovation", but it has nothing to do with innovation. They ask him to bend everything in favour of #litigation or the very same #patent parasites who choke innovation. Typical Watchtroll http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights [22:13] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:13] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20121942 [22:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5110889) [22:13] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:15] techrights-bot #TeamUPC Keeps Pretending That #UPCA Can Still be Resurrected (Even Without the #UK , Which is Strictly a Requirement) http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/upca-lies-in-2021/ #europe [22:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Team UPC Keeps Pretending That UPCA Can Still be Resurrected (Even Without the UK, Which is Strictly a Requirement) | Techrights [22:15] vZS1_2 s/PHP/Python/ [22:16] vZS1_2 async/await, GIL, etc. [22:16] vZS1_2 "easy" language [22:17] schestowitz__ "Smart" https://www.iottechtrends.com/best-of-ces-2021/\ [22:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.iottechtrends.com/best-of-ces-2021/\ ) [22:17] schestowitz__ "Smart" https://www.iottechtrends.com/best-of-ces-2021/ [22:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | Best of CES 2021: Smart Products Galore! - IoT Tech Trends [22:20] techrights-bot You can now get Debian Linux on #PinePhone with the new #Mobian Community Edition Smartphone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146585#comment-27859 #gnu #linux [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Buy the PinePhone Mobian Community Edition Linux Phone | Tux Machines [22:21] vZS1_2 "Deep Learning AI Chips". Do they have salt and vinegar? [22:21] schestowitz__ WTF, now they have reported like these? https://journaltimes.com/news/local/divorces-aug-13-dec-17-2020/article_25605174-42ee-50f5-9d20-2a4818554eb1.html [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Divorces: Aug. 13-Dec. 17, 2020 | Local News | journaltimes.com [22:21] schestowitz__ I know about obituaries, but this? [22:22] vZS1_2 I get [22:22] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: the chips are not sold as "HEY HI" [22:22] vZS1_2 " [22:22] vZS1_2 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons [22:22] schestowitz__ like they make transistors for magic [22:22] vZS1_2 We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact techguy@journaltimes.com or call 888-460-8725. [22:22] schestowitz__ it started about 2 years ago [22:22] vZS1_2 " [22:23] vZS1_2 I don't like my chips without salt and vinegar. [22:23] schestowitz__ They're "old tech" if they're not made for "HEY HI" [22:24] schestowitz__ pixie dust [22:24] schestowitz__ I could never do neural network stuff [22:24] schestowitz__ my chips did not support it [22:24] schestowitz__ until I bought "HEY HI" chips [22:24] schestowitz__ then the programs started running [22:25] vZS1_2 HEY HI chips are not a flavour I've ever heard of [22:25] schestowitz__ they're very common now [22:25] schestowitz__ some are "edge" [22:25] vZS1_2 Does it go well with fish? [22:25] schestowitz__ and they're marketed as for the clown [22:25] schestowitz__ AI, clown, edge [22:25] schestowitz__ IoT [22:25] schestowitz__ there's another one [22:25] schestowitz__ "smart" is already old [22:26] schestowitz__ because they're all "Smart' [22:26] schestowitz__ my new hub is "SMART 2" [22:26] schestowitz__ The GUI evolved a little [22:26] schestowitz__ the rest is the same [22:26] schestowitz__ and it cannot do open wifi [22:26] schestowitz__ so there's "smart" for you [22:26] schestowitz__ locked down [22:26] schestowitz__ "smart" [22:27] vZS1_2 As smart as Apple's staff at the "genius" bar. [22:27] schestowitz__ Microsoft boosters http://techgenix.com/data-transfer-between-linux-and-windows/ [22:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techgenix.com | Data transfer between Linux and Windows: Step-by-step guide [22:27] schestowitz__ this site keeps pushing Microsoft [22:27] schestowitz__ in unix/linux closthing [22:27] schestowitz__ I wonder who's behind this site [22:28] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: apple now removes a bar [22:28] schestowitz__ it wasn't such a "smart" idea after all [22:28] schestowitz__ the "genius" Jobs and Tim Crook got it wrong [22:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.20 [22:29] schestowitz__ next year BT will rebrand as "SMUT hub" [22:29] vZS1_2 lol [22:29] schestowitz__ btw, upon first connection.. [22:29] schestowitz__ they redirect the browser [22:29] schestowitz__ "patental controls" [22:29] schestowitz__ you cannot skip that step [22:29] schestowitz__ IIRC, they also did this years ago [22:30] schestowitz__ they just make fancier pages [22:30] techrights-bot The latest distortion of facts regarding the #UnifiedPatentCourt (UPC) Agreement (UPCA) as seen from the lens of people who seek to profit from such distortion http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/upca-lies-in-2021/ #upc #epo [22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Team UPC Keeps Pretending That UPCA Can Still be Resurrected (Even Without the UK, Which is Strictly a Requirement) | Techrights [22:31] vZS1_2 It's probably running busybox. [22:31] vZS1_2 Try looking for "license" [22:31] techrights-bot Arduino Blog - Making your own Segway, the Arduino way https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/18/making-your-own-segway-the-arduino-way/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [22:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog Making your own Segway, the Arduino way [22:32] techrights-bot Arduino Blog - 3D-printed mobile robot platform based on the Arduino Due https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/19/making-a-3d-printed-mobile-robot-platform-based-with-the-arduino-due/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog 3D-printed mobile robot platform based on the Arduino Due [22:32] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: gpl last I checked [22:32] schestowitz__ they have the gpl mentioned in the mnual [22:32] schestowitz__ among with sw they use listed [22:34] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20121933 [22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5110538) [22:36] techrights-bot #FreeSoftware : #TraktScrobbler , #GIMP , and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146648 #GNU #Linux [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Trakt Scrobbler, GIMP, and More | Tux Machines [22:44] techrights-bot #Programming : #PureScript , #CPP , #Lua , and #RakuLang http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146649 [22:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming: PureScript, C++, Lua, and Raku | Tux Machines [22:47] techrights-bot Devices: #GigaIPC , #RaspberryPi , and #Arduino Projects http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146650 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: GigaIPC, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino Projects | Tux Machines [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:51] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146651 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [22:54] techrights-bot Links 19/1/2021: #Krita 4.4.2 Released and #JingOS Hype http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/krita-4-4-2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/1/2021: Krita 4.4.2 Released and JingOS Hype | Techrights [22:57] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat : we're not a company, we are a community. Ignore what we did to #centos https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/sharing-caring-building-clearer-contribution-paths-your-community [22:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Sharing is caring: Building clearer contribution paths to your community [22:58] techrights-bot Becoming volunteers for #google https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-for-projects-and-mentors-gsoc-2021/ #fuckOffGoogle [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Call for Projects and Mentors: GSoC 2021 Fedora Community Blog ● Jan 19 [23:00] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat : #servers are dead now, replaced by clown https://opensource.com/article/21/1/cloud-image-virt-install #clownComputing [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Set up a Linux cloud on bare metal | Opensource.com [23:01] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20121866 [23:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5109736) [23:02] techrights-bot 11 considerations for effectively managing a Linux sysadmin team | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/11-manager-considerations #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [23:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 11 considerations for effectively managing a Linux sysadmin team | Enable Sysadmin [23:03] techrights-bot #GParted Live 1.2.0-beta1-2 is out. Homepage at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php #gnu #linux [23:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gparted.org | GParted -- Live CD/USB/PXE/HD [23:05] techrights-bot "Well, this is embarrassing! I recently filed a bug against an open source project because I genuinely thought it was broken." https://popey.com/blog/2021/01/embarrassing-bugs/ [23:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Embarrassing Bugs [23:06] psydroid popey the sailor man [23:06] techrights-bot "Welcome to the #Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 666 for the week of January 10 16, 2021." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/01/18/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-666/ #gnu #linux [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fridge.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 666 [23:08] techrights-bot #Arduino MKR inspired MKR Windy board is equipped with STM32WL LoRa SoC https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/19/arduino-mkr-inspired-mkr-windy-board-is-equipped-with-stm32wl-lora-soc/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [23:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Arduino MKR inspired MKR Windy board is equipped with STM32WL LoRa SoC [23:08] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:08] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-152-237-130.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [23:11] techrights-bot Left #mozilla and "migrated some CI from Travis to Github actions amongst many other projects." Mozilla is boosting #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly https://armenzg.medium.com/joining-sentry-cc0f37b6dda7 [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-armenzg.medium.com | Joining Sentry - Armen Zambrano - Medium [23:12] techrights-bot Left #mozilla and "migrated some CI from Travis to Github actions amongst many other projects." Mozilla is boosting #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly https://armenzg.medium.com/joining-sentry-cc0f37b6dda7 [23:14] techrights-bot Firefox Nightly: These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 86 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2021/01/19/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-86/ #mozilla #firefox [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nightly.mozilla.org | These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 86 Firefox Nightly News [23:14] schestowitz__ "Im one of the many users but few developers of Firefox on Windows. One of the biggest obstacles stopping me from doing more development on Windows instead of this beefy Linux desktop I have" https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2021/01/18/doubling-the-speed-of-windows-firefox-builds-using-sccache-dist/ [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chuttenblog.wordpress.com | Doubling the Speed of Windows Firefox Builds using sccache-dist chuttenblog [23:15] techrights-bot Why was this #intel spam posted? No connection to FOSS, just #surveillance like "Intel TDT uses CPU telemetry and machine learning heuristics to detect attack behavior" https://www.fosslife.org/intel-core-vpro-chips-provide-built-security-protection [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Intel Core vPro Chips Provide Built-in Security Protection [23:17] techrights-bot Fedora 34 Cleared For #Btrfs #Zstd Compression By Default, DNF/RPM Copy-On-Write - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-34-Compress-DNF-CoW #Phoronix #IBM #redhat [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 34 Cleared For Btrfs Zstd Compression By Default, DNF/RPM Copy-On-Write - Phoronix [23:19] techrights-bot "This has seen users moving to other messaging platforms such as Telegram and Signal." But are those alternatives valid for #privacy needs? https://ewn.co.za/2021/01/18/devil-s-in-the-details-whatsapp-controversy-raises-digital-security-concerns [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ewn.co.za | Devil's in the details: WhatsApp controversy raises digital security concerns [23:25] techrights-bot GNu/Linux PDA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146482#comment-27860 #pda #gnu #linux [23:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding Astro Slide 5G smartphone ships in June, has a physical keyboard, and promises Linux support | Tux Machines [23:26] techrights-bot "The Global Investigative Journalism Network (GIJN) has just released a list of their top guides and tip sheets in 2020." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/certain-things-are-too-good-to-leave-them-to-journalists/ #GIJN [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Certain things are too good to leave them to journalists | Stop at Zona-M [23:27] techrights-bot #gnu #linux #pine64 https://twitter.com/thepine64/status/1351256075266363399 [23:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@thepine64: We worked with the community on the #PinePhone's keyboard layout over the weekend. After some push and pull, and a https://t.co/EkCQ1IKjQj [23:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@thepine64: We worked with the community on the #PinePhone's keyboard layout over the weekend. After some push and pull, and a https://t.co/EkCQ1IKjQj [23:28] techrights-bot This will be a boon to #gnu #linux and #hardware from #china (with or without back doors, which #intel has anyway). Big blow to Intel https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-huawei-tech-exclusive/exclusive-trump-admin-slams-chinas-huawei-halting-shipments-from-intel-others-sources-idUSKBN29M0KD [23:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Exclusive: Trump admin slams China's Huawei, halting shipments from Intel, others - sources | Reuters [23:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.13 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.43 [23:30] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [23:33] techrights-bot #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146652 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:37] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20122230 [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5117570) [23:40] techrights-bot #EasyOS Dunfell 2.6 released for the #RaspberryPi 4 https://bkhome.org/news/202101/easyos-dunfell-26-released-for-the-raspberry-pi4.html #gnu #linux [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | EasyOS Dunfell 2.6 released for the Raspberry Pi4 [23:43] techrights-bot #KaliLinux messing around with #microsoft crap https://www.kali.org/news/empire-starkiller/ #nsa #backdoors inside. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [23:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kali.org | BC Security's Empire/Starkiller & Kali Linux | Kali Linux [23:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [23:44] techrights-bot Those are NOT conferences. They're glorified webchats called after something that used to be a conference. https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/one-weekend-two-conferences.html [23:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | One weekend, two conferences [23:45] techrights-bot Linux 5.12 To Add Atomics Support To The Promising eBPF - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.12-Atomics-eBPF #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.12 To Add Atomics Support To The Promising eBPF - Phoronix [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:47] techrights-bot #redhat or #ibm using not one but two misleading buzzwords that whitewash #surveillance and data theft by 'authorised' (government-connected or market-listed) firms https://opensource.com/article/21/1/big-data [23:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 ways big data and data science impacted the world in 2020 | Opensource.com [23:48] techrights-bot The #Apache #CloudStack Project Releases Apache CloudStack v4.15 https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/01/19/2160686/0/en/The-Apache-CloudStack-Project-Releases-Apache-CloudStack-v4-15.html [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | The Apache CloudStack Project Releases Apache CloudStack v4.15 [23:52] techrights-bot "Environment Modules is one of those open source projects that I wish more people would know and use. I always wonder why tools like asdf dont provide support for it instead of rolling their own implementation." https://michael-jansen.name/blog/20210118-environment-modules/ [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael-jansen.name | Environment Modules - Michael Jansen, Drive By Coding [23:54] techrights-bot SUSE/OpenSUSE Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146653 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #suse #opensuse [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE/OpenSUSE Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:55] techrights-bot #Pioneer DJM-750 DJ #Mixer Handling For Linux Is En Route - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Pioneer-DJM-750-Linux #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pioneer DJM-750 DJ Mixer Handling For Linux Is En Route - Phoronix [23:56] techrights-bot #PulseAudio Lands Much Better Support For #FreeBSD - Audio Now Plays Correctly - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PulseAudio-Better-FreeBSD #Phoronix #BSD #UNIX [23:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PulseAudio Lands Much Better Support For FreeBSD - Audio Now Plays Correctly - Phoronix [23:58] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146654 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:59] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/8919e38db7496393.jpg