●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, March 19, 2022 ●● ● Mar 19 [00:00] matey too much power [00:00] DaemonFC schestowitz, I have a friend who worked at Cummins making diesel engines. [00:00] matey these free software-RELATED orgs [00:00] DaemonFC They offered him 12 months pay if he resigned. [00:00] schestowitz months ago maddog released an old recording of linus [00:00] schestowitz 1990s [00:00] matey a lot of them are really getting messed up [00:00] schestowitz but that's not a new media interview [00:00] matey linus was a useful idiot [00:00] schestowitz meanwhile Microsoft employees (CURRENT) speak FOR "Linux" Foundation [00:00] schestowitz and boss Torvald [00:00] matey his talents begin and end with writing a kernel [00:00] schestowitz Torvalds is nop angel [00:01] DaemonFC But that was a union job. [00:01] schestowitz but WTF? [00:01] matey torvalds was used for most of his career [00:01] DaemonFC Hard to fire anyone there because it would initiate a process as defined in the union contract. [00:01] matey im not sympathetic [00:01] matey hes a schmuck [00:01] schestowitz matey: he also helped write git, started it [00:01] DaemonFC So they pay people to go away when they need to downsize. [00:01] matey yeah hes talented as a coder [00:01] schestowitz but git is not a sophisticated program [00:01] matey as a software developer, he has talent [00:01] matey outside of that, hes a pawn in a corporate game [00:01] schestowitz it does things better than other tools, which is partly imitates [00:02] matey but he was that pawn in the 90s [00:02] schestowitz because of things that irritated him in those [00:02] matey they let him pretend it was his show, played along with the idea [00:02] schestowitz well, linus was also eaten [00:02] schestowitz they eat their own [00:02] matey without question [00:02] schestowitz he thought bashing the gnu preople (gcc) [00:02] schestowitz would make him safe [00:02] matey someone will eat jim too [00:02] schestowitz how wrong was he [00:02] schestowitz they did a stalin on him [00:02] RaZeR linux should be renamed LINUZ [00:02] schestowitz forced him to apologise and go see THERAPISTS [00:03] schestowitz RaZeR: why? [00:03] DaemonFC I keep getting phone calls trying to poll people living in New York. [00:03] matey they did a stalin on hi <- it was zinoviev who opened up the path to stalinism [00:03] schestowitz look at many linux systems, they do have "linuz" [00:03] RaZeR coz stuff with a Z is cool [00:03] matey he was focused on compromises that would shaft stalins enemies [00:03] matey it was very much an accidental creation of a monster [00:03] matey and what a monster [00:04] schestowitz anyway, linus is "small time" compared to pentagon entities [00:04] schestowitz they always have leverage on him [00:04] matey but there are more similarities-- a lot of these compromises came from, just like today, making deals with the business leaders [00:04] schestowitz LF is one such leverage [00:04] matey the top business brass [00:04] matey they had a hand in it [00:04] schestowitz maybe they also have some "dirt" to scare him with [00:04] schestowitz if they had infidelity dirt, they'd have used it already [00:04] schestowitz so instead they tried to "sexist" card [00:04] matey linus is "small time" compared to pentagon entities <- theo de raadt stood up to them, lost funding [00:04] schestowitz which is funny given that his own family is feminist [00:05] matey linus got cancelled, came back with his tail between his legs [00:05] schestowitz it's a tail? [00:05] matey linus himself is a tail [00:06] schestowitz esr btw [00:06] matey which is funny given that his own family is feminist <- cancel culture isnt about truth or perspective or mitigating factors, its about presumption of guilt [00:06] schestowitz blog down [00:06] matey again? [00:06] schestowitz I heard it got compromised by web shell route [00:06] RaZeR linux is a character from peanuts [00:06] schestowitz and never quite got back [00:06] matey linux is a character from peanut <- good grief [00:06] schestowitz it happeend after he had posted about microsoft windows and microsoft surrendering to linux [00:06] schestowitz that was the end of his blog [00:06] RaZeR its the piano kid [00:06] schestowitz and he had been removed from OSI [00:07] schestowitz for some thoughtcrime [00:07] schestowitz by team bkuhn [00:07] matey you mean this one? http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8764 "it happeend after he had posted about microsoft windows and microsoft surrendering to linux" [00:07] TR Bot Last phase of the desktop wars? Armed and Dangerous [00:07] RaZeR https://data.whicdn.com/images/14781168/original.jpg [00:08] matey and he had been removed from OSI <- for some thoughtcrime <- by team bkuhn <- this i remember [00:08] matey i think you can still reach esrs blog from his website [00:08] schestowitz karen and brad love surrounding himself by the useful idiots of Pentagon [00:08] matey he may have moved it to ibiblio [00:08] schestowitz it gives them money [00:08] matey karen and brad love surrounding himself by the useful idiots of Pentagon <- and talking about ethics [00:08] schestowitz haah, yes [00:09] schestowitz while living in he bankster capital of the world [00:09] schestowitz not baltimore [00:09] RaZeR satanic ethics [00:09] schestowitz see their IRS filing [00:09] schestowitz they pocket twice as much as FSF staff [00:09] matey do you have any urls to any pages of esrs old blog? [00:09] schestowitz the copycats [00:09] schestowitz http://esr.ibiblio.org/ [00:09] TR Bot Armed and Dangerous Sex, software, politics, and firearms. Life's simple pleasures [00:10] schestowitz see latest post [00:10] schestowitz the one before it [00:10] matey im still not clear on what fsf staff make, most people are volunteers, rms doesnt take money (or he takes a dollar or year or some non-amount like that) [00:10] schestowitz and last post [00:10] schestowitz sad ending [00:10] schestowitz it was completely offline for ages [00:10] matey second last techrights post? [00:10] schestowitz came back with some ugly theme [00:10] schestowitz matey: no [00:10] schestowitz http://esr.ibiblio.org/ [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] schestowitz tells you a bit of a story [00:10] matey okay [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 278.78 [00:10] schestowitz prior to it he was rriaisng funds from readers [00:10] schestowitz to blog [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 278.78 [00:10] matey this one http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8772 <- [00:11] TR Bot This is a test Armed and Dangerous [00:11] schestowitz some patreon type thing [00:11] matey ? [00:11] RaZeR thats the site from tiny linux [00:11] schestowitz he was blogging regularly [00:11] matey This is a test to see if the database server issue that froze this blog is resolved. [00:12] matey so he hasnt blogged since 2021-10-14 and that was an rss test [00:12] schestowitz yes [00:12] schestowitz he was ruined [00:12] matey so its been about 5 months [00:12] schestowitz both by OSI [00:12] schestowitz which he had founded [00:12] schestowitz (co) [00:12] schestowitz and his blog is still basically sabotaged [00:12] schestowitz so he lost his voice too [00:13] schestowitz not that I agree with him, esp. not on politics [00:13] matey i think if he had much to say, he has the means to say it. [00:13] schestowitz but come on, the obese unhealthy man should at least have a voice [00:13] matey has he become obese? [00:13] schestowitz very [00:13] matey didnt know [00:13] schestowitz he could barely function, he blogged about it [00:13] schestowitz and raised money for medical help [00:13] matey oh [00:14] matey maybe tahts why its taking his blog so long to get back online [00:14] matey without his youthful vigour and whatnot [00:14] matey hes low on energy perhaps [00:14] matey i dont know, i didnt know he was having medical issues [00:15] matey osi had a plan to cancel rms [00:15] matey they didnt use it, it sat on a shelf for ages [00:15] matey perens condemned it after it was used (most likely by others instead) [00:15] matey how did it get out? who decided to use it? [00:15] matey and most important-- WHOSE PLAN was it? [00:15] matey i would assume esrs [00:16] schestowitz yes, perens at least confirmed that [00:16] matey but from perens on debian-private i can almost see perens concocting it [00:16] matey im not trying to blame perens if hes innocent [00:16] schestowitz perens has been very quiet since his talk about 3 licences as the way forward [00:16] matey im just not ruling him out entirely [00:16] schestowitz after OSI going all rotten [00:16] matey perens should man up and admit that open source is a mess that cant be saved [00:16] schestowitz rms and esr are still friends [00:16] schestowitz but not formally [00:16] matey hell he practically did just that in 1999 [00:17] schestowitz I think they still have more in common [00:17] schestowitz than in common with their attackers [00:17] matey perens and esr? [00:17] schestowitz no [00:17] schestowitz esr and rms [00:17] matey yeah this is the thing [00:17] matey i would LOVE to throw esr under the bus, if hes guilty [00:17] schestowitz rms is afraid of being associated with esr [00:18] schestowitz esr's politics are bad neighbourhood [00:18] matey no evidence points directly to either perens or esr [00:18] schestowitz esp. when the "race justice" theme gets brought up [00:18] matey so the most we can reasonably say its suspicious, and there are others who are far more suspect [00:18] schestowitz I gave my boss a hard talk yesterday [00:18] schestowitz an hour on the phone [00:18] matey esr's politics are bad neighbourhood <- his politics dont bother me. im not convinced hes a white supremacist [00:18] matey its not something most people accuse him of [00:19] schestowitz a lot of these pentagon-connected companies have much to worry about [00:19] schestowitz they are a yoke on the US taxpayers (also outside the US, but in a different way) [00:19] matey obviously [00:19] schestowitz and as long as people can spin off some free software thing like BBB they are f'ed [00:19] schestowitz they then focus on BRANDING [00:19] matey I gave my boss a hard talk yesterday <- this is interesting [00:20] schestowitz I recorded it [00:20] matey and as long as people can spin off some free software thing like BBB <- better business bureau? [00:20] schestowitz no [00:20] schestowitz big blue button [00:20] matey oh right [00:20] schestowitz there's also jabber etc [00:20] schestowitz companies don't need slaesforce slack [00:20] schestowitz their bribed media pushes misoonception [00:20] schestowitz they don't need "clown" [00:20] schestowitz it's a trap with soaring frees [00:21] schestowitz I am SOOOOO glad the video bubble is finally busrsing [00:21] schestowitz they had NOOOOOO business model [00:21] schestowitz none [00:21] schestowitz Microsoft shut down soapbox [00:21] schestowitz gulag bought youtube [00:21] matey microsoft is trying [00:21] schestowitz to replace googfle video [00:21] matey theyre moving into opengl itself [00:21] schestowitz vimeo now attacks its own users [00:21] schestowitz spotify has losses [00:21] schestowitz netflix is ramping up its attack [00:21] schestowitz fee increases and war on "password sharing" [00:21] schestowitz code for, [00:22] schestowitz I invite my friend to watch a movie at my place [00:22] schestowitz all those streaming services are expensive operationally [00:22] schestowitz backing up the videos, redundancy, switching [00:22] schestowitz and they never cared about the business profits [00:22] schestowitz they kicked the can down ther road [00:22] matey people just shouldnt use netflix [00:22] schestowitz and told shareholders... wait, one day it'll pay off [00:22] schestowitz same as uber [00:22] schestowitz and gulag clown [00:22] schestowitz they're just fired loads of workers [00:23] matey ive seen enough of netflix (never a customer) to know, in order to be a netflix customer [00:23] schestowitz like microsoft had fired in azure [00:23] schestowitz they make BILLIONS in losses [00:23] schestowitz they even admit it [00:23] matey you have to keep redefining what it is you actually rely on them for [00:23] schestowitz AWS became profitable around 2010 IIRC [00:23] schestowitz Clownflare is still losing [00:23] schestowitz CDN is not free, no such thing [00:23] matey because netflix likes to cut out any advantage they offer [00:23] matey they cant just be a paid for streaming service [00:23] schestowitz I never watched it [00:23] matey theyu have to ruin the only thing they have [00:24] schestowitz not even 'second hand' (smokers' term) [00:24] matey oh ive watched it on other peoples computers [00:24] schestowitz netflix is waste of bandwidth [00:24] schestowitz people have lousy TVs [00:24] matey notwithstanding [00:24] schestowitz and basic speakers [00:24] schestowitz and they sit far [00:24] matey its a crap service with mostly crap offerings [00:24] matey and they only make it crappier [00:24] schestowitz so they get like tends of GBs for one or two people... now netflix calls its own clients "pirates" [00:24] matey putting ads in a service thats already paid for! [00:24] schestowitz how nice of them [00:25] schestowitz matey: the cinemas did the same [00:25] schestowitz but usually at the edges or start [00:25] matey yeah and i stopped going [00:25] matey heres the thing, when it comes to entertainment [00:25] schestowitz some movies did embed undoclosed ads [00:25] schestowitz like coke [00:25] matey if i dont control the experience i dont bother [00:25] schestowitz iirc, apple also [00:25] matey same with books [00:25] matey if i dont control my copy i dont bother [00:25] schestowitz yeah [00:25] schestowitz try gemini [00:25] schestowitz it's so clean of these things [00:25] matey gemini is great [00:26] schestowitz like neocities and geocities [00:26] schestowitz befroe geocities added ads [00:26] schestowitz I was running a site in geocities around 1998 [00:26] matey 2003 [00:26] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/ [00:26] matey angelfire [00:27] schestowitz gemini://dece.space/notes/20220318-phone-screen-repairs.gmi [00:27] schestowitz angelfire is dead, no? [00:27] matey im already a fan of gemini [00:28] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi [00:28] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comicdarts1.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-comicdarts#comic ) [00:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comicdarts1.png [00:28] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [00:28] matey angelfire lives https://www.angelfire.com/tn3/petbath/ [00:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: angelfire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.angelfire.com/tn3/petbath/ [00:28] TR Bot Simple Expense Manager [00:28] RaZeR gemini doesnt work with tor [00:28] matey im guessing there are no more signups [00:28] matey gemini doesnt work with tor <- why not [00:29] RaZeR tor browser [00:29] matey tor browser is for https [00:29] matey you can use tor without tor browser [00:29] schestowitz [00:28] gemini doesnt work with tor [00:29] schestowitz it does [00:30] schestowitz and some capsules have inion address [00:30] matey you can also use a gemini proxy but im sure thats not what we are talking about [00:30] schestowitz we thought of making an onion address for ours [00:30] matey gemini -> http but you dont NEED that [00:30] schestowitz but it's running tor from home [00:30] schestowitz self-hosting is already a risk with the ISP [00:30] darwin i just heard about a universal basic income (UBI) that's not pennies a month (like MANNA is: ) https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/universal-basic-income/ ... is this a step towards better human & technology rights? I haven't looked at it yet so wondering if anyone thinks it's not or is problematic [00:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: coinmarketcap.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/universal-basic-income/ [00:30] TR Bot NO TITLE [00:30] schestowitz self-hosting with tor another risky step [00:31] schestowitz RaZeR: you can use tor with https proxy of our capsule [00:31] schestowitz gemini.techrights.org serves on three ports [00:31] schestowitz 1965, http, httpd [00:31] schestowitz *s [00:31] matey https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/universal-basic-income/ <- has no idea what this is [00:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: coinmarketcap.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/universal-basic-income/ [00:31] RaZeR UBI = bitcoin mining [00:31] schestowitz it also does ssh, but that's not for you ;-) [00:32] matey referring to bitcoin mining as "universal-basic-income" is... weird? [00:32] matey i dont get the connection between them [00:33] matey "universal-basic-income" is part of the url [00:33] matey i still dont get it [00:33] RaZeR yes you should drop the basic [00:33] matey and maybe the universal [00:34] RaZeR i could have mined more and i would have been richer now [00:34] matey sure [00:34] schestowitz with automation this is doable [00:34] RaZeR never liked the ethics of the thing [00:35] matey of bitcoin? [00:35] schestowitz but it would ruin the system wherein few plunder all the capital [00:35] RaZeR actually is de oppsit [00:36] RaZeR its exactly to perpetuate the system [00:37] RaZeR if people lose all income how would they plunder all the capital? [00:37] matey its exactly to perpetuate the system <- how does it perpetuate the system? [00:37] RaZeR they would have to make a new system with out capital [00:38] matey like an anti-capitalist system [00:38] matey ? [00:38] TR News Home Streaming Server https://www.linux.org/threads/home-streaming-server.38677/ [00:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: linux.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linux.org/threads/home-streaming-server.38677/ [00:38] TR Bot Streaming Server | Linux.org [00:38] TR News "The non-profit organization that oversees AlmaLinux said four new entrants had arrived, with AMD, BlackHOST, and KnownHost joining at the Silver Member level, and Sine Nomine Associates joining the Gold tier." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/almalinux_os_foundation_amd/ [00:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/almalinux_os_foundation_amd/ [00:38] TR Bot AMD and more join AlmaLinux OS Foundation The Register [00:39] RaZeR not sure about anti capitalist it would make capital less relevant [00:39] RaZeR but [00:39] schestowitz-TR misunderstanding [00:39] matey if you make capital less relevant it will simply reassert itself [00:39] schestowitz-TR I was not alluding to fantasycxoins [00:39] schestowitz-TR but to UBI [00:39] schestowitz-TR where "B" is like in Switzerland [00:39] schestowitz-TR or even Sweden with short workweeks [00:39] matey you can get rid of capitalism though if you make it "less relevant" that is temporary [00:40] matey a reform isnt bad unless youre counting on it to stay that way on its own [00:40] RaZeR its as temporary has the time people keep being money less [00:40] matey or letting it create complacency (which it often does) [00:41] matey people will be moneyless when they no longer need money [00:41] matey or wqhen theyre broke, but thats not what im talking about [00:42] TR News "Across our global oceans, coastal communities are suffering as populations of sharks, rays, dolphins and other wildlife are decimated by industrial fishing. Huge fishing fleets targeting squid, a species that plays a vital role in the ocean food web, are industrialising international waters." https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/52549/squid-games-that-are-costing-the-planet/ [00:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: greenpeace.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/52549/squid-games-that-are-costing-the-planet/ [00:42] TR Bot Squid games that are costing the planet - Greenpeace International [00:42] RaZeR people would have to resort to charity and be cheap and it would make the capitalists evem more powerfull [00:42] matey thats not how that works [00:43] TR News "The importance of cephalopods in sustaining marine ecosystems cannot be overstated. Worldwide, they are a key component of food webs, providing a major prey source for coveted fish species like tunas and salmon, cetaceans like dolphins, sea lions and whales, and a variety of seabirds." https://www.greenpeace.org/international/publication/52473/squids-in-the-spotlight/ [00:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: greenpeace.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.greenpeace.org/international/publication/52473/squids-in-the-spotlight/ [00:43] TR Bot Squids in the Spotlight - Greenpeace International [00:43] RaZeR i mean not having UBI [00:43] TR News Server: AlmaLinux OS Foundation and Home Streaming Server Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162711 [00:43] TR Bot Server: AlmaLinux OS Foundation and Home Streaming Server | Tux Machines [00:43] matey im not against ubi [00:43] RaZeR people would bcome evem more like slaves [00:43] matey its an idea id like to see explored [00:43] matey possibly implemented [00:43] matey you would like ubi, yes? [00:43] RaZeR poeple say that slavery is banned [00:44] RaZeR i dont buy that [00:44] TR News "For several years, I spent much time writing code for the Raspberry Pi, including hardware level register C code so that we can use various Integrated Circuit chips and sensors with Perl." http://blogs.perl.org/users/steve_bertrand/2022/03/access-the-tesla-api-with-perl.html [00:44] TR Bot the Tesla API with Perl! | Steve Bertrand [blogs.perl.org] [00:44] matey slavery isnt banned, some forms of it are illegal [00:44] schestowitz-TR [00:43] poeple say that slavery is banned [00:44] schestowitz-TR "modern-age slavery" [00:44] schestowitz-TR the words change [00:44] matey theres plenty of modern age slavery [00:44] schestowitz-TR the practices stay [00:44] matey but even slavery itself is not bannedm except under MOST circumstances [00:45] RaZeR the slave owner needed to provide food shelter closthing to slaves now days slaves dont give the employer(slaver) that much trouble [00:45] schestowitz-TR I suppose some people would be deeply offended if we called slave trade "sweatshop trade" [00:45] matey there are loopholes large enoguh to steer a slave ship through [00:45] schestowitz-TR and plantation "factoiries" [00:45] schestowitz-TR or "brands" [00:45] RaZeR they do this thing by them selfs [00:45] schestowitz-TR serfdom [00:45] schestowitz-TR "gig economy" [00:46] schestowitz-TR "do you want to work here?" [00:46] schestowitz-TR "well, yes," [00:46] matey "sweatshop trade" <- not a bad phrase though, useful enough on its own [00:46] schestowitz-TR "I have no choice, I would starve otherwise" [00:46] schestowitz-TR containers are the new slaveboats [00:46] schestowitz-TR but they distance you from you slave [00:46] schestowitz-TR you don't see them [00:46] matey gigeconomy <- e-serf [00:46] schestowitz-TR you don't speak to them [00:46] RaZeR but you are free to starve if you dont want the job :> [00:46] schestowitz-TR you don't even know they exist [00:47] schestowitz-TR it's called "cmas gift" [00:47] schestowitz-TR it's .... "FROM AMAZON" [00:47] schestowitz-TR "from the shop" [00:47] schestowitz-TR "made by bezos" [00:47] schestowitz-TR bezos is a middleman [00:47] matey hes a middleman at the top [00:47] schestowitz-TR hooking up a billion humans with slaves [00:47] schestowitz-TR but don't call it that... [00:47] matey nearly the top [00:47] schestowitz-TR keep him at the top [00:48] matey hes one of the 10 richest people on earth [00:48] schestowitz-TR above the stratosphere [00:48] matey but not the richest [00:48] schestowitz-TR he can do his silly 'spacewalk" for a few minutes [00:48] schestowitz-TR then you say, okay, matey, see you later, we gotta go [00:48] schestowitz-TR bezos is left in orbit [00:48] schestowitz-TR along with OTHER space debris [00:49] schestowitz-TR people buy telescopes [00:49] schestowitz-TR from amazon [00:49] matey i bet musk would go get him down again [00:49] schestowitz-TR to watch the cautionary tale [00:49] matey or a drone would [00:49] RaZeR theres no shortAGE OF BESOS REPLACEMENTS [00:49] schestowitz-TR "the man who made slaves asemble telescopes" [00:49] matey musk, by some miracle, is richer than bezos [00:49] schestowitz-TR matey: maybe [00:49] matey i still cant get over this [00:49] schestowitz-TR as debris, he would put musk's business at risks [00:50] schestowitz-TR it could collide with the comms sattelite or spacex rockets [00:50] RaZeR ~LOL [00:50] matey gates did the same for jobs [00:50] matey i can easily see musk helping to bail out bezos [00:50] matey gates is still one of the 10 richest on earth [00:50] matey so is ballmer. ballmer! [00:51] schestowitz-TR thigh ballmer [00:51] schestowitz-TR he and CONnie still bribe some things [00:51] schestowitz-TR to whitewash the name [00:51] matey all that money and he cant hire someone to make him not look like a buffoon [00:51] schestowitz-TR who, ballmer? [00:51] schestowitz-TR otr bezos? [00:51] matey yes [00:51] schestowitz-TR bezo has very ugly kids [00:51] matey well bezos is bezos [00:51] schestowitz-TR to be objective [00:52] schestowitz-TR not even the wife could compensate for turtlejeff [00:52] matey austin powers wasnt supposed to be an instruction manual [00:52] RaZeR AMD is getting its own distro like intel has already [00:52] TR News V3D for Raspberry Pi https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/15380?commit_id=102ae4bdc89c1c11464e4f9816ee79eae1ac81b3 [00:52] TR Bot v3d: add support for on-disk shader cache (!15380) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab [00:53] matey i hope it has a rootkit [00:53] matey to go with the chip [00:53] RaZeR why? [00:53] matey for the same reason i hope that amd continues to screw up [00:53] matey so they can finally die [00:54] matey the sooner the better [00:54] TR News Seat Belt History: The Patent That Was Given Away https://tedium.co/2022/03/18/seat-belt-history/ [00:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/03/18/seat-belt-history/ [00:54] TR Bot Seat Belt History: The Patent That Was Given Away [00:54] RaZeR is there anyone you wouldnt want to die? [00:54] matey many! [00:54] matey lots of companies just getting started [00:55] TR News "Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from March 11 to March 18." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2022/03/twig-35/ [00:55] TR Bot #35 Software Reviews This Week in GNOME [00:55] TR News "Libadwaita 1.1 and Libhandy 1.6 are now released to match the upcoming GNOME 42." https://blogs.gnome.org/alexm/2022/03/19/libadwaita-1-1-libhandy-1-6/ [00:55] TR Bot Libadwaita 1.1, Libhandy 1.6 Just another blog [00:55] RaZeR how does AMD keeps screwing up? [00:55] matey betraying customers [00:56] matey putting surveillance first [00:56] matey lying about everything [00:56] RaZeR that comes with the territory [00:56] matey then the territory needs to change or be changed [00:56] matey i have no sympathy for amd [00:56] RaZeR good luck with that [00:56] matey thanks [00:57] RaZeR you will need it [00:57] matey to say the least [00:57] matey free software made enormous strides changing the territory of the software world [00:57] matey free software doesnt need "ethical source" bullshit [00:57] matey but it wont make any further progress without getting hardware right either [00:58] matey we are at that point-- rms says "in ten years"-- nope [00:58] matey now [00:58] matey now is the time [00:58] matey rms might as well say "when its too late" [00:58] RaZeR isnt it alrady too late? [00:58] matey not necessarily [00:58] matey but yesterday would have been better [00:58] RaZeR just like everything [00:59] matey you might have me mixed up with mincer [00:59] matey hes the one with no faith left in the human race [00:59] RaZeR humanity excels at procrastination [00:59] matey or they will when they get around to it [00:59] RaZeR actually it might be one of its defining features [00:59] matey i dont blame mincer for being pessimistic though ● Mar 19 [01:00] matey its easy to put off saving the world, since most people dont know how and even if they did, its a LOT of work [01:00] RaZeR give me convinirncr or give me death [01:00] RaZeR convenience [01:01] TR News GNOME: Libadwaita 1.1, Libhandy 1.6, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162712 [01:01] TR Bot GNOME: Libadwaita 1.1, Libhandy 1.6, and More | Tux Machines [01:01] RaZeR people will glady for-faith their privacy for just one click less [01:02] schestowitz-TR rms spoke about this in the video we reposted hours ago [01:02] schestowitz-TR about a friend who gave him home address to bezos [01:02] matey about privacy or hardware? [01:02] schestowitz-TR "doxing" him [01:02] matey oh about a friend [01:02] schestowitz-TR who sent a gift [01:02] schestowitz-TR and then gave his home address [01:02] matey i imagine bezos home address isnt that secret [01:02] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/rms-libreplanet/ [01:02] TR Bot Richard Stallmans LibrePlanet Talk From 5 Years Ago | Techrights [01:02] schestowitz about 5 mins from the start [01:02] schestowitz he makes a good point [01:03] schestowitz and it's framed logically enough [01:03] schestowitz by comparison [01:03] RaZeR bezos home address id in malta or something like that [01:03] matey i assume he has more than one [01:03] schestowitz-TR wives? [01:03] matey addresses [01:03] schestowitz-TR "sex partners?" [01:03] schestowitz-TR he was "multitasking" [01:04] RaZeR i think you can have only one [01:04] schestowitz-TR unless a saudi magazine 'doxed' him [01:04] matey only one address? [01:04] schestowitz-TR which ended his marriage [01:04] schestowitz-TR like nytimes with gates [01:04] RaZeR for legal related stuff [01:04] schestowitz-TR by revealing he was messing about with epstein behind the wife's back [01:04] schestowitz-TR bill fainted [01:04] schestowitz-TR I still hope for some deal indictment or investigation [01:05] schestowitz-TR maybe another round of gates deposition tapes [01:05] RaZeR why? [01:05] schestowitz-TR [01:03] i think you can have only one [01:05] schestowitz-TR he "swapped" [01:05] schestowitz-TR for the one he had been having an affair with [01:05] matey are you talkign about bezos or gates? [01:05] schestowitz-TR and people trust this businessman? [01:05] schestowitz-TR whom even his own wife could not trust? [01:06] schestowitz-TR many people outsource their sites and stuff to aws [01:06] schestowitz-TR matey: they have infidelity in common [01:06] matey i dont think most people are so impressed by that [01:06] immibis i outsource my techrights IRC server to schestowitz-TR despite him not being very trustworthy [01:06] matey obviously some are [01:06] schestowitz-TR but afaik bezos was not seeing and hanging out with a person who offers access to underage sex [01:06] matey but they compartmentalise [01:06] immibis schestowitz-TR: it's 2022, polyamory is allowed [01:07] matey most people wont stop doing business with a company because of the ceo jumping into a bed with a mistress [01:07] schestowitz-TR those are surrogate issues [01:07] schestowitz-TR if they cheat on the wife [01:07] schestowitz-TR they will alsoo cheat business partners [01:08] matey quite a lot of people didnt care that bill clinton had an affair in the white house either [01:08] schestowitz-TR the two are mentally associated [01:08] matey it was a field day for the republicans [01:08] matey as if republicans dont have mistresses, funny stuff [01:08] matey "only democrats do that" pfft [01:09] matey democrats are worse about getting caught though. dont know why [01:10] matey those are surrogate issues <- yes like ethical source is a surrogate issue [01:10] matey you want to vote against an illegal war, you have to get past the abortion debate first [01:11] RaZeR abused childs make better solfiers [01:11] matey citation needed [01:12] RaZeR ask the hitler youth [01:12] matey everyone was in the hitler youth [01:12] matey the pope was in the hitler youth [01:12] immibis everyone who is rich cheats lots of people. That's how you get rich. [01:13] matey you could have inherited it from someone who cheated lots of people [01:13] RaZeR ratzinger [01:13] schestowitz-TR immibis: yes [01:13] schestowitz-TR zuckerberg: "they trust me, dumb fucks" [01:13] schestowitz-TR he sold secrets [01:14] schestowitz-TR times 2 billion [01:14] RaZeR zuckerberg: "they trust me, dumb fucks" he told the nsa [01:15] immibis easiest way to get rich is sell an oligarch (russian or american or european or australian or chinese) something they want [01:15] immibis especially on an ongoing basis [01:15] immibis instead of oligarch the word should be kleptocrat [01:15] RaZeR zuckerberg translates as vilage of suckers [01:16] TR News Working with 9 screens tonight. I still have one not connected downstairs. But the computers are second hand and our main assets. What we do for a living... [01:16] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162713 [01:16] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:17] immibis RaZeR: it's sugar hill actually [01:17] RaZeR honypot [01:17] matey kuhn seems to get this right: [01:17] matey "This essay merely argues that FOSS licenses are not an effective tool to advance social justice causes other than software freedom." [01:17] matey so maybe hes not arguing for ethical source licenses at least [01:17] matey and not arguing for destroying the fsd [01:18] matey he still lacks integrity, hes the wrong person to be advancing this (and what hes advancing is likely to be flawed in other ways) [01:18] matey i havent read the whole thing, so im still discovering things about it. [01:19] matey i intensely dislike him and consider him a traitor. i still dont wish to straw man him [01:19] matey and in the long run the comparison to lunduke will probably still fit [01:21] schestowitz-TR the title is one thing [01:21] schestowitz-TR the opening paragraph is antoher [01:21] schestowitz-TR but it is a loaded headline [01:21] schestowitz-TR it implies a need to exclude [01:21] schestowitz-TR hence the headline [01:21] schestowitz-TR we wrote a lot about the ukraine war [01:21] schestowitz e.g. http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/ [01:22] TR Bot When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights [01:25] schestowitz-TR [01:24] 00:16:44 matey; perens should man up and [01:25] schestowitz-TR [01:25] admit that open source is a mess that cant be saved [01:25] schestowitz-TR [01:25] many years ago perens went on record saying the OSS was supposed to be only a [01:25] schestowitz-TR [01:25] stepping stone on the way to Free Software [01:26] TR News Links 19/3/2022: KStars 3.5.8 Released, New Linux RNG | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/new-linux-rng/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/18/new-linux-rng/ [01:26] TR Bot Links 19/3/2022: KStars 3.5.8 Released, New Linux RNG | Techrights [01:27] TR News Links 19/3/2022: KStars 3.5.8 Released, New Linux RNG | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/new-linux-rng/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/18/new-linux-rng/ [01:27] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162714 [01:27] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [01:27] schestowitz https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2022/03/msg00132.html [01:27] TR Bot Question to all candidates: Ongoing/future legal projects [01:27] schestowitz " [01:27] schestowitz In November 2021, it was discussed in debian-private that a team from [01:27] schestowitz Debian had been working with a lawyer for a while. (Not sharing [01:27] schestowitz details: issues remain ongoing.) How would you transition into taking [01:27] schestowitz on this particular responsibility and similar longer running issues [01:27] schestowitz should they arise in the future? [01:27] schestowitz " [01:27] schestowitz "Debian had been working with a lawyer for a while. " [01:27] schestowitz Nice way to spend resources [01:28] schestowitz devs get paid $0 [01:28] schestowitz hey, let's pay lawyers $300 per hour [01:28] matey many years ago perens went on record saying the OSS was supposed to be only a stepping stone on the way to Free Software [01:29] matey i read that letter (1999) [01:29] matey he was of the personal impression that open source was that way [01:29] matey and as a co-founder he had some reason at least, to know what open source was about [01:29] matey but a year later he spoke as if he had been mistaken [01:30] matey the whole thing is pretty confusing. it paints perens as innocent-- perhaps rightly so [01:30] matey it gets more confusing when you look at pre-osi emails from perens on debian private [01:30] matey im not saying that perens plotted against rms [01:30] matey he has demonstrated integrity on a number of occasions and its only fair to consider those instance [01:31] matey but... if we are willing to consider things we would rather not, for the sake of thoroughness [01:31] matey he has also said many things that make it reasonable and plausible to imagine him getting sucked in to some kind of plot [01:31] matey he also went back to osi after resigning [01:32] matey short version: perens is difficult to figure out completely. he has two sides. im not saying hes two-faced, only that ive been unable to eliminate the possibility [01:32] matey debian-private was an eye opener [01:32] TR News ICBM Fedora "weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and whats coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-11/ [01:32] TR Bot Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-11 Fedora Community Blog [01:33] matey i think perens would actually do himself a favour by being more open about his opinions. if he wasnt so quiet, we wouldnt have to guess. [01:33] TR News "There is so much discussion about universal packaging formats on Linux. But the discussion always seems to be centered around which is better: Snaps or Flatpaks? It's almost like people don't realize that there is a third option...a BETTER option!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Yk6kaaoTKmE [01:33] TR Bot Keep Your Snaps and Flatpaks, I'll Take AppImages! - Invidious [01:33] TR News Module, SBC, and mini-PC tap Rockchip RK3568 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162715 [01:33] TR Bot Module, SBC, and mini-PC tap Rockchip RK3568 | Tux Machines [01:33] matey i dont think its ever going to happen. he only comments at all at periods of great upheavel before going quiet again, usually for years [01:34] matey its hard to tell what open source was. perens was disappointed they lost the trademark on open source [01:34] schestowitz-TR there is lots more in debian-private [01:34] matey today open source is a weapon against free software [01:34] schestowitz-TR yes [01:34] schestowitz-TR not juat that [01:35] schestowitz-TR it is a weapon against a long of thing [01:35] schestowitz-TR OSI is half-owned by Microsoft [01:35] schestowitz-TR or github [01:35] schestowitz-TR it's a marketing hub of Microsoft [01:35] matey no question [01:35] schestowitz-TR and they need to be disbanded for that [01:35] schestowitz-TR that's when Ptrick quit [01:35] schestowitz-TR he too realised what OSI had become [01:35] matey and deb joined! [01:36] schestowitz-TR joined hands with bully db [01:36] schestowitz-TR to change the OSD [01:36] schestowitz-TR and FSD [01:36] matey true [01:36] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/02/09/freesw-license-redefined/ [01:36] TR Bot GNOME Foundation and OSI Move on to Extend Phase Against the Free Software Definition (or Against Software Freedom) | Techrights [01:36] schestowitz the stench... they've left [01:36] matey yeah i remember that [01:36] schestowitz but they also left these orgs bruised [01:36] schestowitz just hours apart [01:36] schestowitz this was coordinated [01:37] matey im still not sure kuhn wants to change the fsd based o nwhat i just looked at [01:37] matey that was my first impression, until i read more [01:37] schestowitz because "ethics" [01:37] schestowitz take money of ICE suppliers [01:37] matey im not saying he wouldnt stoop to that level-- theres a difference between "would" and "has" [01:37] schestowitz and then harp about social justice [01:37] matey heres the thing... [01:37] schestowitz while hiring trolls as staff [01:37] matey depending how its done... [01:38] matey it is inevitable for free software to get attached to other issues [01:38] matey done the right way, it doesnt compromise free software [01:38] matey the problem is, its more likely going to be done the wrong way (because there are more wrong ways than right ways) [01:38] matey so its a real threat-- doubly so when kuhn is involved [01:38] matey but its not a complete threat [01:39] matey or i should say its not inherently a threat [01:39] matey but the way theyre going about it, it most likely will be [01:39] matey and its an old trick anyway [01:40] matey i mean osi tried lots of times to add a lot of cruft to the very idea of free software [01:40] matey useless stuff [01:40] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:40] matey so much that in some ways, this ethical source looks like "take two" of an old trope from osi [01:40] matey even the original was years after perens resigned though [01:40] matey im thinking 2007-2010 [01:41] matey it was around then they started saying its not really open source unless theres a community [01:41] TR News Russell Coker: More About the Librem 5 https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/03/19/more-librem5/ [01:41] TR Bot More About the Librem 5 etbe - Russell Coker [01:41] matey and that was something microsoft and ibm have harped on a LOT for the past few years [01:41] matey but osi was saying that 12 years ago [01:42] schestowitz-TR yes, true.. [01:42] schestowitz-TR now they communitywash github [01:42] matey to be free software, technically, only requires a free license. and no patent encumbering. etc. [01:42] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/github-drives-osi/ [01:42] TR Bot Another Rapid Escalation: Microsoft Now Runs the Open Source Initiatives Web Site, Promoting Proprietary Software in It | Techrights [01:42] schestowitz microsoft IS the community [01:42] schestowitz joins github [01:42] matey now they communitywash github <- yes [01:42] schestowitz be a setf [01:42] schestowitz support the OSI [01:42] matey corporations arent communities [01:42] schestowitz by joining shithub [01:42] schestowitz 250 000 dollars a year for clearlyMicrosoft [01:43] schestowitz community http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/ [01:43] TR Bot [Teaser] Meet Microsofts Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley (Updated) | Techrights [01:43] matey clearlymicrosoft, josh simmons, osi, you dont hate him because hes attacking free software, you only hate him because hes gay [01:43] matey (i didnt even know he was gay, and i wouldnt have cared if i knew) [01:44] schestowitz-TR i did not know either [01:44] matey yeah [01:44] schestowitz-TR until he started using it [01:44] matey maybe if he had a license plate that said "im gay" on it [01:44] matey but it was the first id heard of it [01:46] matey "youre only giving me a ticket because im gay" "no, im giving you a ticket because you were doing 80 in a 60 zone" [01:48] matey as if you can tell someones preference by the way they drive (maybe theres an app for it) [01:49] matey "hey youre going 80 between 7 and 10 pm, you probably prefer coke over pepsi!" [01:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [01:52] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ [01:52] TR Bot The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights [01:52] schestowitz what he was doing is... a disservice to OSI [01:52] AdmFubar https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/03/18/1750210/facebook-is-locking-out-people-who-didnt-activate-facebook-protect?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [01:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/03/18/1750210/facebook-is-locking-out-people-who-didnt-activate-facebook-protect?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [01:52] TR Bot Facebook is Locking Out People Who Didn't Activate Facebook Protect - Slashdot [01:53] schestowitz he basically insinuated OSI is homosexuality [01:53] schestowitz and thus, critics of the OSI [01:53] schestowitz are in fact, homophobic [01:53] schestowitz how does this help the OSI? [01:53] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-defender-tags-office-updates-as-ransomware-activity/ [01:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-defender-tags-office-updates-as-ransomware-activity/ [01:53] TR Bot Microsoft Defender tags Office updates as ransomware activity [01:53] schestowitz correct [01:54] schestowitz it is malware [01:54] schestowitz go microsoft [01:54] schestowitz microsoft loves microsoft [01:54] matey im waiting for microsoft defender to tag itself [01:56] schestowitz-TR and take action without prompting the use [01:56] matey "ransomware" i mean, it does threaten to remove access to documents unless you pay a fee, right? [01:56] schestowitz-TR *user [01:56] matey so close enough [01:56] schestowitz-TR on a PC fast enough it would remove itself before you can see its warning [01:56] schestowitz-TR like a black hole sucking itself in [01:57] matey on a pc fast enough, windows would still slow it down [01:57] matey because it has windows [01:57] schestowitz-TR lol [01:57] matey the faster the computer, the slower the os [01:57] schestowitz "Fat operating systems spend most of their energy supporting their own fat." [01:57] matey someday we will all be using the equivalent of a supercomputing cluster [01:57] AdmFubar https://slashdot.org/story/22/03/15/2030255/peloton-got-trapped-in-its-trillion-dollar-fantasy?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [01:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://slashdot.org/story/22/03/15/2030255/peloton-got-trapped-in-its-trillion-dollar-fantasy?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [01:57] TR Bot Peloton Got Trapped in Its Trillion-Dollar Fantasy - Slashdot [01:57] matey and windows would be slower than ever [01:57] schestowitz -Nicholas Negroponte, MIT Media Lab, rediff.com, Apr 2006 [01:57] schestowitz he meant Windows [01:58] matey negroponte, what a disappointment [01:58] matey i read his book [01:58] schestowitz olpc? [01:58] matey yeah [01:58] schestowitz denyponte wrote a book about it? [01:58] schestowitz I did not hear [01:58] matey no [01:58] matey he wrote a book in 1995 [01:58] schestowitz anyway, they were subjverted from the inside [01:58] matey yes [01:58] schestowitz with XP bearing gifts [01:59] schestowitz-TR this was Vista era [01:59] matey they should have told them to go to hell [01:59] schestowitz-TR Micrsooft did not even offer Vista [01:59] schestowitz-TR XO is unheard of now [01:59] schestowitz-TR Sugar [01:59] AdmFubar https://torrentfreak.com/torguard-settles-piracy-lawsuit-and-agrees-to-block-torrent-traffic-on-u-s-servers-220314/ [01:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/torguard-settles-piracy-lawsuit-and-agrees-to-block-torrent-traffic-on-u-s-servers-220314/ [01:59] TR Bot Settles Piracy Lawsuit and Agrees to Block Torrent Traffic on U.S. Servers * TorrentFreak [01:59] matey its amusing now to consider who made the os for olpc [01:59] schestowitz-TR matey: that would be homophobic [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 20.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 278.81 [01:59] matey lol ● Mar 19 [02:00] matey yes, standing up to corporate tyranny usually is [02:00] matey personally, im entirely in favour of all gay rights, except the gay right to corporate tyranny [02:00] matey that one im very homophobic about [02:01] matey call me a hater [02:01] schestowitz-TR I foretold this to rianne [02:01] matey i just dont think corporate tyranny is right [02:01] schestowitz-TR we met ovr 10 years ago [02:01] schestowitz-TR I said they'd try to associate me with some "phobia" [02:01] schestowitz-TR because they always do that to others [02:02] schestowitz-TR and indeed that's what happened later [02:02] matey there was no point doing it to rms unless they were going to do it to everyone else [02:02] matey because they knew people would defend him [02:02] matey so they had to be ready to attack his defenders [02:02] matey it was a given [02:02] schestowitz-TR they painted oliva that way [02:03] schestowitz-TR found out that like 30 years ago in college [02:03] schestowitz-TR he relayed the typical "dumb blonde" jokes [02:03] schestowitz-TR afaik, those don't even specify the blonde's gender [02:03] matey 30 years in college, EVERYONE told dumb blonde jokes [02:03] schestowitz-TR but this is how they put people on notice [02:03] schestowitz-TR AOL era [02:03] schestowitz-TR find some way to blackmail them [02:03] *CrystalMath (~coderain@3wfyah776n64s.irc) has joined #techrights [02:04] schestowitz-TR wb, CrystalMath [02:04] matey they might as well say hes a sociopath because he was involved with *whispers* alt.deadbabyjokes [02:04] matey its shocking to think about it now, but in the 1990s people still had a sense of humour [02:04] matey /me shudders [02:04] TR News "According to Istios support policy, minor releases like 1.11 are supported until six weeks after the N+2 minor release (1.13 in this case). Istio 1.13 was released on February 11th, and support for 1.11 will end on March 25th, 2022." https://istio.io/latest/news/support/announcing-1.11-eol/ [02:04] TR Bot Istio / Support for Istio 1.11 ends on March 25th, 2022 [02:04] matey people told jokes! [02:05] matey granted no one will admit it now [02:05] matey you end up hauled before a committee [02:05] matey i think the statute of limitation on a blonde joke is way less than 30 years [02:05] schestowitz-TR putting side, [02:05] schestowitz-TR the culture of early Web [02:06] schestowitz-TR and the nature of jokes passed via email chains [02:06] matey but it doesnt have to be, hell we can reach back to his ancestors and get him for jokes THEY told [02:06] matey i bet some of those were truly shocking! [02:06] schestowitz-TR you do not even write trhe jokes yourself [02:06] schestowitz-TR same with "yo momma so fat" jokes [02:06] matey well yo momma so fat jokes are entirely different [02:06] matey those are cultural appropriation. [02:06] TR News windriver is not a linux company, but to keep up with the changing times.... https://www.windriver.com/services/linux [02:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: windriver.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windriver.com/services/linux [02:07] TR Bot Wind River Studio Linux Services | Wind River [02:07] matey i mean, carlin got away with it because he grew up in new york, you had to tell yo momma jokes or youd get beat up [02:07] TR News GNOME Radio 16 for GNOME 42 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162716 [02:07] TR Bot GNOME Radio 16 for GNOME 42 | Tux Machines [02:07] matey if you told yo momma jokes and enough people laughed, you got respect [02:08] matey but today carlin would rightfully be exposed as a bully for telling jokes that kept people from beating him up [02:08] schestowitz-TR it's "good" he died when he did [02:08] matey because thats how the social justice inquisition works [02:08] schestowitz-TR he would be lynched on stage [02:08] schestowitz-TR for telling the same jokes he had said for decades [02:08] matey he would have hanged himself if hed seen what things are like now [02:08] AdmFubar https://www.geekwire.com/2022/silenced-no-more-bill-targeting-ndas-used-by-tech-companies-passes-in-washington-state/ [02:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: geekwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.geekwire.com/2022/silenced-no-more-bill-targeting-ndas-used-by-tech-companies-passes-in-washington-state/ [02:08] TR Bot No More bill targeting NDAs used by tech companies passes in Washington state - GeekWire [02:08] schestowitz-TR maybe rowan atkinson is also on the list [02:08] schestowitz-TR after cleese [02:09] matey for standing up to stupid laws [02:09] schestowitz-TR and jerry seinfeld next in line with "kramer" [02:09] schestowitz-TR humour is often based on mild offense [02:09] matey kramer wasnt telling jokes, he really did go on a racist tirade [02:09] matey he apologised, it was unconvincing [02:10] schestowitz-TR yes, it was bad [02:10] matey i feel a little bit bad for him, but it was career suicide, not murder [02:10] schestowitz-TR i watched it, he totally lost it [02:10] matey he was great in uhf [02:10] schestowitz-TR jerry seinfeld did explain you cannot tell same jokes anymore [02:10] matey its true [02:10] schestowitz-TR esp. because the younger generation did not know how to handle them [02:10] schestowitz-TR and that it was killing the profession [02:11] matey dave chappelle explained the same thing (probabbly better than seinfeld) [02:11] schestowitz-TR carlin always explored the taboos [02:11] matey seinfeld is funny but hes not as much of a genius as chappelle [02:11] schestowitz-TR that's what made it so funny [02:11] schestowitz-TR soon they will be back to slapstick [02:11] schestowitz-TR if that's not offensive to anyone... IF [02:11] matey heres what will really happen [02:12] matey the ultra-left will continue in their hypocrisy until theyre as exposed in their own bullshit as ben shapiro was when he told people to sell their houses to aquaman [02:12] matey this terribly era of social chauvanism will end [02:12] matey its a matter of when [02:12] matey that doesnt mean we shouldnt fight it now-- only that if we do, we are guaranteed to win eventually [02:13] MinceR when humans kill themselves off :> [02:13] MinceR any year now [02:13] matey thats your solution to everything :P [02:13] schestowitz-TR yerah [02:13] MinceR it's by far the most likely thing humans will do to themselves [02:13] schestowitz-TR MinceR: putin is knocking [02:13] matey mincers like hitler, just WAY more ambtious [02:13] schestowitz-TR on poland's border [02:13] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:13] matey "i hate everybody, everyone in inferior!" [02:13] schestowitz-TR knocking on eff-SHELLS [02:13] schestowitz-TR sorry, I said shells [02:13] schestowitz-TR I apologise [02:13] MinceR no, i'm not doing the work for humanity [02:14] schestowitz-TR that might traumatise some people [02:14] schestowitz-TR *eff-shells [02:14] matey true, hes very hands off about the "final solution" to humanity [02:14] schestowitz-TR >> egg-shells [02:14] MinceR humanity would not prove its own worthlessness that way :> [02:14] matey hitler should have been so hands-off [02:14] MinceR hitler was a bigot [02:14] matey problem was he was a take-charge kind of guy [02:15] MinceR and an authoritarian [02:15] matey and mincers approach to the final solution is much more libertarian [02:15] schestowitz George Carlin Talks About "Stuff" - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac [02:15] TR Bot George Carlin Talks About "Stuff" - Invidious [02:15] matey which is why its hilarious, in exactly the way that the third reich wasnt [02:17] matey like hogans heroes [02:17] schestowitz-TR matey: he hopes to get incarnated into a cat [02:17] schestowitz-TR or a fox [02:17] schestowitz-TR how many soulds do foxes have? [02:17] matey mincer? [02:18] schestowitz-TR yes, [02:18] matey foxes were cool before mozilla [02:18] schestowitz-TR autocomplete fails me a lot [02:18] MinceR no, i hope to not be incarnated in this solar system ever again [02:18] schestowitz-TR but not this time [02:18] MinceR humans suck, 0/10, would not be born as a human again [02:18] schestowitz-TR MinceR: which solar system do you prefer? [02:18] MinceR one with no humans in it [02:19] MinceR and instead with intelligent, civilized life [02:19] schestowitz-TR "humans; no, would not recommend" -MinceR [02:19] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/18/jehovahs-witnesses-abusing-copyright-subpoena-process-to-unmask-critics/ [02:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/18/jehovahs-witnesses-abusing-copyright-subpoena-process-to-unmask-critics/ [02:19] TR Bot Witnesses Abusing Copyright Subpoena Process To Unmask Critics | Techdirt [02:19] matey cat was cool before linus torvalds [02:19] schestowitz-TR Amazon review [02:19] matey https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/18/jehovahs-witnesses-abusing-copyright-subpoena-process-to-unmask-critics/ <- theyre asking for a south apark episode really [02:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/18/jehovahs-witnesses-abusing-copyright-subpoena-process-to-unmask-critics/ [02:20] matey be careful jws, you saw what happened to scientologists and mormons [02:20] matey scientologists pulled exactly the same tactics, going after critics over copyright [02:20] matey raiding peoples homes [02:21] schestowitz-TR ICBM uses trademarks [02:21] matey and sfc abuses them [02:21] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162717 [02:21] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:22] schestowitz-TR maybe one day they will twist critics of SFC as antisemitic [02:22] schestowitz-TR let's wait and see [02:22] matey i wonder how long this pretender to the throne business works for kuhn before open source eats him [02:22] schestowitz-TR or as treansphobic [02:22] matey i mean they kind of already shot that load with the letter [02:22] *schestowitz-TR shuffling computers today as the drive on the main laptop is dying [02:23] matey but maybe they could do it again [02:23] schestowitz-TR LF keeps portraying itself as protector of blacks [02:23] schestowitz-TR it employs NONE [02:23] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/farmers-unions-right-to-repair-coalition-files-ftc-complaint-against-john-deere/ [02:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/farmers-unions-right-to-repair-coalition-files-ftc-complaint-against-john-deere/ [02:23] TR Bot Unions, Right To Repair Coalition Files FTC Complaint Against John Deere | Techdirt [02:23] matey farmers-unions-right-to-repair-coalition-files-ftc-complaint-against-john-deere/ <- sweet [02:24] schestowitz-TR oh deere [02:24] matey what kuhn is really calling for [02:25] matey is the right of coders to strike [02:25] matey but of course hes doing it in a ham-fisted trollish way [02:25] matey that makes it unclear what hes talking about [02:25] matey and makes for a bunch of opportunistic grandstanding, which overlooks the fact that-- SFC IS NOT A TRADE UNION [02:26] matey there is a trade union which sfc is tied to unofficially though [02:26] matey tech workers union in california [02:26] matey actually [02:26] matey i dont think theyre a trade union either [02:26] matey theyre an umbrella org [02:26] matey tech workers collective [02:26] matey not union [02:27] matey what sfc is to free software, twc is to unions [02:27] matey they report, coordinate, act as an umbrella [02:28] matey its not a bad thing in and of itself, but i think theyre closer to the businesses than the unions in their causes and tactics [02:28] schestowitz-TR so yellow union [02:28] matey basically thats my impression (newly formed, could be wrong) [02:28] schestowitz-TR remember microsoft dealt with code-protestor by stealing a project [02:28] matey the impression is newly formed [02:28] schestowitz-TR in shithub [02:28] schestowitz-TR a lot of peopel forgot that [02:28] matey yeah i mean these are common tactics now [02:28] matey and old-- decades, century, whatever [02:29] matey the "tech" part is new [02:29] matey the corporate tyranny part isnt [02:29] schestowitz-TR microsoft is tech?!\ [02:29] matey loosely speaking. [02:29] matey they buy tech, they sell tech, they pretend to create tech [02:30] schestowitz-TR the mafia also pretends to have legit business activity [02:30] schestowitz-TR does bill gates make vaccines? [02:30] schestowitz-TR or does he hijacked institutions [02:30] schestowitz-TR to help his patent investments in this pandemic thing? [02:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [02:30] schestowitz-TR they always say, [02:30] schestowitz-TR mafia uses some businesses for "cover" [02:30] schestowitz-TR starbucks attacks unions now [02:31] schestowitz-TR and the founder came back just to attack them [02:31] schestowitz-TR he is the creator of william gates and son [02:31] schestowitz-TR made an empire on the "cover" is selling coff^H^H^Hambiance/lifestyle [02:32] matey the mafia also pretends to have legit business activity <- the mafia has no monopoly on acting like the mafia, thats for sure [02:32] TR News Duplicate detection in Techrights http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-180322.html#tMar%2018%2011:40:20 [02:32] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 18, 2022 [02:32] matey when edison was in business, he acted the mafia. so did ford. [02:32] matey and they were buddies [02:33] matey starbucks attacks unions now <- theyre going to get pushback well before amazon [02:33] matey starbucks has pushed about as far as it can go without losing [02:33] TR News "they just jump to insane conclusions based on half-understanding" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-180322.html#tMar%2018%2005:46:07 [02:33] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 18, 2022 [02:34] matey in the wwii timeline theyre hiding in a bunker [02:34] TR News "problematic is kuhns favourite word" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180322.html#tMar%2018%2023:13:49 [02:34] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 18, 2022 [02:35] matey /me waits for hitler reacts to starbucks attacking unions video [02:36] schestowitz-TR [07:33] Starbucks attacks society. Stop paying it anything. https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-brought-former-ceo-howard-schultz-back-to-union-bust-workers-say/ [02:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-brought-former-ceo-howard-schultz-back-to-union-bust-workers-say/ [02:36] TR Bot Starbucks Brought Former CEO Howard Schultz Back to Union Bust, Workers Say [02:36] schestowitz-TR [11:13] When you buy anything from starbucks you hurt people and you legitimise other companies doing so too. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-180322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-180322.txt [02:38] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 18, 2022 [02:39] matey in germany, a "venti" is known as a zwanzig [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-180322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-180322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-180322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-180322.txt [02:39] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 18, 2022 [02:39] schestowitz-TR twenty? [02:39] matey every worker should have a union [02:39] schestowitz-TR zventi? [02:39] matey twenty? <- yes, but only as a joke [02:39] schestowitz-TR cross-company unions are harder [02:39] schestowitz-TR because the collective power is harder to leverage [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-180322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-180322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-180322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-180322.txt [02:40] schestowitz-TR unless all workers from some company join the same "syndicale" [02:40] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 18, 2022 [02:40] matey so what kind of union do you think starbucks workers should belong to? [02:40] schestowitz-TR their union [02:40] matey it would be funny (but still a good idea) if there was like an international baristas of the world [02:40] schestowitz-TR yeah [02:40] schestowitz-TR that would be cool [02:41] schestowitz-TR all workers in those business striking at the same time [02:41] matey but it would take some major sucessess for people to stop laughing [02:41] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/03/google-hijacked-millions-of-customers-and-orders-from-restaurants-lawsuit-says/ [02:41] TR Bot Google hijacked millions of customers and orders from restaurants, lawsuit says | Ars Technica [02:41] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-03-18.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-03-18.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:41] schestowitz-TR Gulag also screwed useds of "free" things no [02:41] matey /me looks up of theres a union for clowns (there probably is) [02:41] matey every worker should have a union [02:41] schestowitz-TR the 'free trial' mentality/mindset [02:41] schestowitz-TR maybe some people think Gulag is a charity [02:42] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:42] matey http://artsatmichigan.umich.edu/ink/2022/02/18/clowns-have-a-union-and-i-think-thats-neat/ [02:42] TR Bot Clowns Have a Union (and I Think Thats Neat) arts, ink. [02:42] matey clowns can unionise [02:42] schestowitz-TR there is that saying, [02:42] schestowitz-TR if you don't pay, you are the product [02:42] schestowitz-TR I would extend that to [02:42] matey im sure baristas can too [02:42] schestowitz-TR if you are not paying [02:43] schestowitz-TR you are not paying just yet [02:43] DaemonFC https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/small-business/payment-app-taxes-form-1099k [02:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: nerdwallet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/small-business/payment-app-taxes-form-1099k [02:43] schestowitz-TR or the way you are paying is hidden from you [02:43] TR Bot $600 or more on peer-to-peer apps? Expect a 1099-K - NerdWallet [02:43] DaemonFC I heard a person complaining that her landlord was demanding the payments for rent be classified "friends and family" so he didn't have to report them. [02:43] DaemonFC He was threatening to evict her after she continued putting it under "goods and services". [02:44] schestowitz-TR what i the tax on rents in IL? [02:44] DaemonFC She should have paid him "friends and family" and then wrote a letter to the IRS saying what he was having her do. [02:45] *matey has quit (Quit) [02:45] DaemonFC No tax for you, but the landlord was trying to evade his self-employment income taxes. [02:45] *matey (~matey@fwvi8i66ywy5a.irc) has joined #techrights [02:45] AdmFubar https://www.techradar.com/news/chinese-cpus-could-soon-give-intel-a-run-for-its-money [02:45] TR Bot CPUs could soon give Intel a run for its money | TechRadar [02:45] DaemonFC And believe me the IRS is interested in cheating of that scale. [02:45] schestowitz-TR soon? [02:45] schestowitz-TR Intel? [02:45] schestowitz-TR first, Intel isn't the biggest seller, per unit [02:45] DaemonFC Under-reporting your income by over 25% leads to ALL KINDS of penalties. [02:45] schestowitz-TR second, chinese-made chips are common [02:46] schestowitz-TR the brand might not be "chinese" [02:49] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Renters do pay taxes, they're just invisible. [02:50] DaemonFC The state taxes the property, and they tax the landlord with income tax. [02:50] DaemonFC So that's figured into your rent, obviously. [02:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [02:51] *chunky has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:52] *chunky (~chunky@wa5c3nj9mkua2.irc) has joined #techrights [02:52] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, So Paypal has anti-fraud algorithms that tell them when someone is abusing "friends and family" classification to run a business. [02:52] DaemonFC Then they report those people to the IRS anyway. [02:53] DaemonFC And they're in way deeper shit than just owing tax. [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 278.84 ● Mar 19 [03:01] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The "State of ILL" has an even better plan coming up. [03:02] DaemonFC Soon there may be 8 rent control boards and tenants will have to pay an "affordable rent tax" to a board that decides how much rents can go up each year. [03:06] DaemonFC There still are some chest freezers in Amazon Warehouse Deals. [03:06] DaemonFC But it's "Acceptable". [03:07] DaemonFC They sold mom a "Like New" portable washing machine that someone ran a forklift into, forks first. [03:07] DaemonFC :) [03:08] matey that deal wont hold water [03:15] DaemonFC She got a refund for it but then hooked it up before she threw it out. [03:15] DaemonFC It worked for a few months. 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[03:49] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/thb814/yeah_sure_why_not/ [03:49] TR Bot Yeah sure, Why not. : Piracy [03:49] DaemonFC Netflix prices have doubled since 2017. [03:51] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/tgseu2/statebacked_piracy_ladies_and_gentlemen/ [03:51] TR Bot State-backed piracy ladies and gentlemen. : Piracy [03:51] DaemonFC Russian companies are pirating the logos of all the stuff that pulled out. [03:52] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/tg832n/android_authority_asked_its_readers_would_they/ [03:52] TR Bot Android Authority asked it's readers would they subscribe to YouTube Premium now that Vanced is gone, the overwhelming majority of respondents (~93%) said they wont be subscribing to YouTube Premium : Piracy [03:52] DaemonFC 93% of respondents said they definitely won't be subscribing to "YouTube Premium" now that YouTube Vanced is gone. 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News xkcd: Advanced Techniques https://xkcd.com/2595/ #xkcd [07:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2595/ [07:12] TR Bot Advanced Techniques [07:13] TR News #HowTo Install Jitsi Meet desktop on Debian 11 https://www.atechtown.com/install-jitsi-meet-on-debian-11/ [07:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: atechtown.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.atechtown.com/install-jitsi-meet-on-debian-11/ [07:13] TR Bot How to Install Jitsi Meet desktop on Debian 11 [07:15] TR News IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 18, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/19/irc-log-180322/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/19/irc-log-180322/ [07:15] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 18, 2022 | Techrights [07:19] TR News "Linuxiac is accessible from Argentina again!" http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36789/ [07:19] TR Bot Linuxiac.com inaccessible to some countries?: LXer Meta Forum [07:21] TR News "Makes me think modern tech is massively narcissistic, essentially unhappy unless the star for better, or for much, MUCH worse...." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/846 [07:24] TR News They are only rich because of taxpayers https://www.etonline.com/hollywood-helping-ukraine-meghan-markle-and-prince-harrys-archewell-foundation-sends-aid-180546 [07:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: etonline.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.etonline.com/hollywood-helping-ukraine-meghan-markle-and-prince-harrys-archewell-foundation-sends-aid-180546 [07:24] TR Bot Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's Archewell Foundation Is Sending Aid to Ukraine | Entertainment Tonight [07:25] TR News Quit calling every computer program "Hey Hi" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/china_go_player_ai/ [07:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/china_go_player_ai/ [07:25] TR Bot Chinese Go Association suspends 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https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/JFROG-LTD-112440355/news/JFrog-Diving-into-CVE-2022-23943-ndash-a-new-Apache-memory-corruption-vulnerability-39798430/ [07:30] TR Bot : Diving into CVE-2022-23943 a new Apache memory corruption vulnerability | MarketScreener [07:31] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:31] TR News "Microsoft's security team"???? Microsoft puts BACK DOORS in things! https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/microsoft_trickbot_scanner/ puff piece slanting the PROBLEM as the "solution" http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [07:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/microsoft_trickbot_scanner/ [07:32] TR Bot Open-source scanner for detecting Trickbot-hijacked routers The Register [07:32] TR Bot Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [07:33] TR News Does EU still tackle Microsoft crimes? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/ovhcloud_microsoft_complaint/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [07:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/ovhcloud_microsoft_complaint/ [07:33] TR Bot OVHcloud lodges antitrust complaint against Microsoft The Register [07:33] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [07:34] TR News In order to fake 'growth' more things get classified as "Hey Hi" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/idc_ai_funding/ [07:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/idc_ai_funding/ [07:34] TR Bot US companies to spend $120bn on AI by 2025, says IDC The Register [07:37] TR News Kerala CM releases KITEs new FOSS based Operating System suite http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162681#comment-33107 [07:37] TR Bot kite: Upgraded Kite Os Suite Released | Tux Machines [07:38] TR News "The CNIPA on February 23 confirmed companies' subsidiaries as ineligible to be respondents to answer petitions in administrative patent cases, in the country's top IP authority's reply to the Zhejiang Intellectual Property Administration published on its official website." https://www.mondaq.com/china/trademark/1172860/afd-china-newsletter--march-2022 [07:38] TR Bot AFD China Newsletter - March 2022 - Intellectual Property - China [07:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [07:52] TR News The Register keeps using International Data Corporation (IDC) like an authority (several examples of it this past week) despite its profound conflict of interest. http://techrights.org/wiki/IDC [07:52] TR Bot IDC - Techrights [07:53] TR News Kahoot is in cahoots with Microsoft, helping to push PROPRIETARY software instead of actually teaching people something useful https://venturebeat.com/2022/03/13/eilert-hanoa-interview-why-the-kids-education-market-is-booming/ [07:53] TR Bot Hanoa interview: Why the kids education market is booming | VentureBeat [07:57] TR News Shortages https://www.channelweb.co.uk/news/4046610/ocf-boss-reflects-bleeding-edge-hpc-market [07:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: channelweb.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.channelweb.co.uk/news/4046610/ocf-boss-reflects-bleeding-edge-hpc-market [07:57] TR Bot OCF boss reflects on 20 years at 'bleeding edge' of HPC market [07:59] TR News TeamViewer AG would then squeeze users even MORE. Time to move to Free software. https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/TEAMVIEWER-AG-66480659/news/TeamViewer-AG-TeamViewer-intends-to-convert-into-European-stock-corporation-SE-39751760/ [07:59] TR Bot AG: TeamViewer intends to convert into European stock corporation (SE) | MarketScreener ● Mar 19 [08:01] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:01] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [08:01] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 35.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 278.99 [08:02] TR News "Valve has implemented system-wide limiters to limit the TDP from 3-15W at a push of a button as well as the option to set a manual fixed GPU clock or even artificially limit the frame rate to 30 FPS across the board." https://wccftech.com/review/steam-deck-portable-console-for-power-users/ [08:02] TR Bot Steam Deck Review - A Portable Console For Power Users [08:06] TR News So send the kids on their own? Or is this journey a trick to bait adults into overpaying for tickets? https://www.northantslive.news/news/northamptonshire-news/kids-travel-northampton-london-just-6805984 [08:06] TR Bot Kids travel from Northampton to London for just 1 this half term - Northants Live [08:09] TR News Company called Gentoo, homes that explode because of faulty gas lines? https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sunderland-gas-explosion-man-critical-23320575 https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/people/man-still-in-hospital-as-probe-into-suspected-sunderland-gas-blast-continues-3599877 [08:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: sunderlandecho.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/people/man-still-in-hospital-as-probe-into-suspected-sunderland-gas-blast-continues-3599877 [08:09] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sunderland-gas-explosion-man-critical-23320575 ) [08:09] TR Bot ROKER EXPLOSION: Injured man still in hospital as probe into suspected Sunderland gas blast continues | Sunderland Echo [08:10] TR News Humans who can afford this are usually pigs https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60708120 [08:10] TR Bot Xenotransplantation: Are pigs the future of organ transplants? - BBC News [08:12] TR News "A free alternative is installing a Linux distribution such as Ubuntu, Manjaro or others." https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/computers/desktop-and-laptop-computers/articles/is-building-your-own-pc-worth-it [08:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: choice.com.au | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.choice.com.au/electronics-and-technology/computers/desktop-and-laptop-computers/articles/is-building-your-own-pc-worth-it [08:12] TR Bot Is building your own PC worth it for non-gamers? | CHOICE [08:13] TR News "Pine64s announcement also delved into the vexed issue of pricing, with the board likely to retail north of $300, putting it out of Raspberry Pi competitor territory. The manufacturer hasnt yet settled on a price-point, but it is likely to be sold at cost or even subsidized." https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/quartzpro64-board-rk3588 [08:13] TR Bot Pine64 Announce Rockchip RK3588 Powered QuartzPro64 Development Board | Tom's Hardware [08:15] TR News "tech rights experts we are talking to warn that this knee jerk reaction must translate into serious policy change" https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/ukraine-information-war/ [08:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: codastory.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/ukraine-information-war/ [08:15] TR Bot Putin's invasion of Ukraine changed everything, especially the information war - Coda Story [08:16] TR News "What worries Ressa, along with many other tech rights advocates, is that de-platforming continues to look like a knee-jerk reaction to a crisis rather than a thought-out change of policy." https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/putin-fake-news/ [08:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: codastory.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/putin-fake-news/ [08:16] TR Bot No off ramp for Putin as Ukraine burns - Coda Story [08:16] TR News "The history of computing could arguably be divided into three eras: that of mainframes, minicomputers, and microcomputers. Minicomputers provided an important bridge between the first mainframes and the ubiquitous micros of today." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/a-brief-tour-of-the-pdp-11-the-most-influential-minicomputer-of-all-time/ [08:17] TR Bot A brief tour of the PDP-11, the most influential minicomputer of all time | Ars Technica [08:18] TR News Microsoft Windows: Where all the fun is. For the "baddies"... https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/769802/activatorexe-popups-and-stolen-crypto-funds-from-metamask/ [08:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/769802/activatorexe-popups-and-stolen-crypto-funds-from-metamask/ [08:18] TR Bot Activator.exe popups and stolen crypto funds from MetaMask - Virus, Trojan, Spyware, and Malware Removal Help [08:19] TR News "JEP 422, Linux/RISC-V Port, has been promoted from Candidate to Proposed to Target for JDK 19. This JEP proposes to port the JDK to Linux/RISC-V, a free and open-source RISC instruction set architecture." https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/03/java-news-roundup-mar07-2022/ [08:19] TR Bot Java News Roundup: JDK 19 and Jakarta EE 10 Updates, Ansynch and Buffered Logging by Amazon Corretto [08:21] TR News So Linux has some privilege escalation flaws; meanwhile, Microsoft has remotely-exploitable flaws that require no account on the target https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4046533/security-bug-linux-kernel-netfilter-attackers-gain-root-access [08:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: computing.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4046533/security-bug-linux-kernel-netfilter-attackers-gain-root-access [08:21] TR Bot Security bug in Linux kernel netfilter lets attackers gain root access [08:26] *bnchs (~bnchs@e862bn5jnaz4w.irc) has joined #techrights [08:27] bnchs https://github.com/RIAEvangelist/node-ipc [08:27] TR Bot - RIAEvangelist/node-ipc: Inter Process Communication Module for node supporting Unix sockets, TCP, TLS, and UDP. Giving lightning speed on Linux, Mac, and Windows. Neural Networking in Node.JS [08:28] bnchs "Thanks for all the free pizza, and thanks to all the police that showed up to SWAT me. They were really nice fellas" [08:31] TR News The media is full of inflammatory lies. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/apple-microsoft-top-list-of-most-ethical-tech-companies/ criminals are "most ethical" https://www.techrepublic.com/article/apple-microsoft-top-list-of-most-ethical-tech-companies/ [08:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/apple-microsoft-top-list-of-most-ethical-tech-companies/ [08:31] TR Bot Microsoft top list of most ethical tech companies | TechRepublic [08:32] bnchs brandon is getting pizzabombed and SWATted [08:32] TR News Firms that say Microsoft is "most ethical" are themselves unethical and corrupt. They get paid to say exactly the OPPOSITE of what's true. [08:34] TR News Apple @ Work: Windows file shares are still buggy on macOS https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/12/windows-file-shares-are-still-buggy-on-macos-its-time-to-fix-it-once-and-for-while/ use GNU/Linux instead [08:34] TR Bot @ Work: Windows file shares are still buggy on macOS; it's time to fix it once and for all - 9to5Mac [08:35] TR News This week in KDE: Back to those 15-minute bugs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162719 [08:35] TR Bot This week in KDE: Back to those 15-minute bugs | Tux Machines [08:37] TR News Microsoft shipping malware again https://www.itnews.com.au/news/protestware-npm-package-dependency-labelled-supply-chain-attack-577488 [08:37] TR Bot 'Protestware' npm package dependency labelled supply-chain attack - Security - iTnews [08:39] TR News Whats the Fuss About GNOMEs Libadwaita Library in Linux World? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162720 [08:39] TR Bot What's the Fuss About GNOME's Libadwaita Library in Linux World? | Tux Machines [08:39] TR News Why academia chooses open source Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162721 [08:39] TR Bot Why academia chooses open source | Tux Machines [08:40] bnchs "protestware" [08:40] bnchs wtf is protestware [08:42] schestowitz-TR see? [08:42] schestowitz-TR when russia does it [08:43] schestowitz-TR it's criminals [08:43] schestowitz-TR "hackers" [08:43] schestowitz-TR malware [08:43] schestowitz-TR cyberattack [08:43] schestowitz-TR when a usian does it [08:43] schestowitz-TR deleting people's files [08:43] schestowitz-TR not even locking them for money, just sabotaging them [08:43] schestowitz-TR that is "protest" [08:44] TR News "I've started learning about the Julia language. I think it's like a faster python. Of course, to get fast python programs, you need to write a fast C++ code, or call Fortran linear algebra libraries etc. But it seems Julia is as easy as python but fast as C++." gemini://tilde.team/~steve/blog/2022-03-18.gmi [08:46] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162722 [08:46] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [08:46] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [08:49] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: You're somewhat ignoring the power dynamic [08:49] *bnchs (~bnchs@e862bn5jnaz4w.irc) has joined #techrights [08:50] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: When a country that is invading another country attempts to hack, that's aggression [08:50] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: When people attempt to defend the country that's being invaded, it's harder to describe that as aggression [08:50] bnchs defend as in? [08:51] bnchs overwriting people's files if their IP gets flagged as russia? [08:51] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: I don't think this action was justified, but it's not unreasonable to use different terms to describe different things [08:51] mjg59_ bnchs: Hey, war crimes can be defensive [08:51] mjg59_ It doesn't mean they're justifiable [08:52] bnchs yeah well [08:52] bnchs but i guess this guy got what he deserved [08:52] mjg59_ But we do use different words to describe them [08:53] mjg59_ Not going to defend this guy at all [08:53] mjg59_ Only pointing out that there's no inherent hypocrisy in using different terms to describe it compared to Russian attacks on Ukraine internet infrastructure [08:54] bnchs yeah i would like to see these russian attacks on ukraine internet infrastructure [08:55] TR News Proprietary software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/19/gas-pumps-insecure-typical-router/ [08:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/19/gas-pumps-insecure-typical-router/ [08:55] TR Bot Gas pumps happen to be about as insecure as your typical router - CNX Software [08:55] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 35.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 278.99 [08:56] TR News Fernando Cassia back in the media https://www.techradar.com/features/chrome-os-a-better-linux-than-linux-so-you-can-forget-about-windows [08:56] TR Bot OS: A better Linux than Linux so you can forget about Windows | TechRadar [08:57] IPFS 279.03 [08:57] schestowitz-TR the media muddled the fact that many of these attacks targeted Windows in Ukraine [08:57] schestowitz-TR some crooks from Microsoft planted puff pieces [08:58] schestowitz-TR portraying Microsoft as the response team [08:58] schestowitz-TR after they themselves contributes to the chaos [08:59] mjg59_ Everyone is bad at writing secure software [08:59] mjg59_ Microsoft is not uniquely bad in this respect [08:59] schestowitz-TR not everyone does back doors [08:59] mjg59_ Point at the back doors [08:59] schestowitz-TR NSA leaks ● Mar 19 [09:00] bnchs microsoft still has unpatched holes with only a workaround [09:00] bnchs like seriousSAM [09:01] schestowitz-TR shadowbrokers [09:01] mjg59_ Point at a specific back door [09:01] bnchs this hole has to do with the shadow volume's file permissions on system files being more permissive than the regular system files [09:02] schestowitz-TR mjg59_: you wrote one [09:02] schestowitz-TR for Microsoft [09:02] bnchs thus you can access some of the sensitive stuff like SAM file on the shadow volume (without admin) [09:02] schestowitz-TR in 'Linux' [09:02] mjg59_ News to me [09:02] schestowitz-TR letting them and the NSA brick machines or prevent boots [09:02] schestowitz-TR anyway, I owe you nothing [09:02] schestowitz-TR you waste time [09:03] mjg59_ Ok you make claims you can't justify [09:03] mjg59_ You're within your rights to do so [09:03] mjg59_ Just as I am to point them out [09:04] bnchs how about indirectly letting the gov discover security flaws in windows [09:04] bnchs by giving them the source code to windows [09:04] bnchs this is how they work [09:05] mjg59_ But if you want to claim that the NSA could brick my laptop then you should be able to describe the mechanism [09:05] bnchs so that they can keep knowledge of this flaw in their database [09:05] mjg59_ bnchs: Shit wait until you hear what these Linux people let the government look at [09:05] bnchs mjg59_, the difference is windows's source code is not publicly available [09:05] mjg59_ bnchs: But amazingly what evidence shows us is that source code availability doesn't seem to correlate with vulnerability discovery [09:06] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162723 [09:06] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [09:06] bnchs yeah [09:06] bnchs but with the source code [09:06] bnchs it makes it easier [09:06] mjg59_ bnchs: Which is a surprising result! But binaries turn out to be easy to analyse and show you what the compiler thought while compiling the source, which looking at source doesn't tell you [09:07] bnchs binaries are not as easy [09:07] bnchs they're stripped from their debug symbols [09:07] mjg59_ Windows has publicly available debug symbols [09:07] TR News Hardly surprising that those choosing proprietary GitHub and C# won't pay attention to anything other than Windows (with just 30% of the market) https://medevel.com/journaley/ [09:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/journaley/ [09:07] TR Bot Journaley is an open-source, free Journaling app for Windows [09:08] bnchs its not the full debug symbols [09:08] mjg59_ I'm literally right now reverse engineering the Microsoft Pluton driver with their public debug symbols [09:08] bnchs ok if it was that easy [09:08] TR News The first Asahi Linux Alpha Release is here! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162724 [09:08] TR Bot The first Asahi Linux Alpha Release is here! | Tux Machines [09:08] bnchs then why does wine have to do things manually [09:10] bnchs nevermind [09:10] mjg59_ Because wine doesn't want to do binary reverse engineering because of potential IP issues [09:10] bnchs yeah [09:11] bnchs or what about clean room reverse engineering [09:11] bnchs have someone read the source code and document its functions and what it does [09:11] bnchs and give it to a developer [09:11] bnchs maybe a lawyer first [09:12] mjg59_ It's easier to just run apps under Windows and see what they do [09:12] mjg59_ Clean room engineering is preferable when you have a large codebase to implement with no docs [09:12] mjg59_ If you have incomplete docs, it's easier to implement things according to the docs and then try to infer the difference in behaviour [09:13] mjg59_ When I was figuring out Windows ACPI behaviour, I modified qemu to give me more information about what Windows was doing and ran unmodified Windows [09:13] mjg59_ Faster and no legal concerns [09:13] bnchs yeah [09:13] TR News Sayak Boral is still boosting Microsoft. Vista 11 is WORSE than Vista 10. It comes with ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS. https://www.maketecheasier.com/check-windows-11-compatibility/ no wonder it is failing. http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/ [09:13] TR Bot The Ultimate Guide to Check Windows 11 Compatibility with Your PC - Make Tech Easier [09:13] TR Bot Microsoft Delighted by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights [09:14] bnchs i've never reverse engineered anything other than a few file formats [09:19] TR News EasyOS Dunfell-series 3.4.3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162725 [09:19] TR Bot EasyOS Dunfell-series 3.4.3 | Tux Machines [09:20] TR News "Online jerks and offline jerks are largely one and the same. Heres how to keep them from affecting your happiness." https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2022/03/how-to-manage-cyberbullying-internet-trolls/627084/ [09:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: theatlantic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2022/03/how-to-manage-cyberbullying-internet-trolls/627084/ [09:20] TR Bot How to Deal With Trolls - The Atlantic [09:21] TR News US as perpetrator of cyberattacks and technical sabotage https://www.news18.com/news/tech/nopen-season-china-once-again-accuses-us-nsa-of-cyber-espionage-says-found-spying-tool-4877759.html [09:21] TR Bot NOPEN Season: China Once Again Accuses US NSA of Cyber Espionage, Says Found Spying Tool [09:23] TR News US government sabotaging Linux https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/03/15/china-detects-spy-virus-developed-by-the-us/ see Beijing, Mar 15 (Prensa Latina) China detected a virus designed by the United States National Security Agency to carry out espionage activities and access sensitive information on the computers of its victims, the local press reported. [09:23] TR Bot China detects spy virus developed by the US - Prensa Latina [09:24] TR News Confirmed by Nils Torvalds: NSA Asked Linus Torvalds for Back Doors in Linux, Torvalds Did Not Tell Us Techrights http://techrights.org/2013/11/17/nils-torvalds-on-back-doors/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2013/11/17/nils-torvalds-on-back-doors/ [09:24] TR Bot Confirmed by Nils Torvalds: NSA Asked Linus Torvalds for Back Doors in Linux, Torvalds Did Not Tell Us | Techrights [09:24] TR News Hardware is being marketed as "Hey Hi" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/cerebras_ai_chips/ [09:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/cerebras_ai_chips/ [09:24] TR Bot Cerebras brings CS-2 system to data analysis biz nference The Register [09:25] TR News "Awhile ago I posted a "retroish theme" for the Midnight. It's light-on-dark, with reddish highlights and a couple text effects (mainly scanlines and some glow), and uses a console-style font (Inconsolata)." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/847 [09:27] TR News "Until last week, when it emerged that Western spy agencies were investigating a large-scale satellite broadband outage affecting satellite communications provider Viasat, which began on 24 February the day Russia invaded Ukraine." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/viasat_rosneft_ukraine_cyberattacks/ [09:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/viasat_rosneft_ukraine_cyberattacks/ [09:27] TR Bot Viasat, Rosneft hit by cyberattacks The Register [09:28] Techrights-sec SFC attackes Freedom 0 : http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180322.html#tMar%2018%2022:58:12 [09:28] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 18, 2022 [09:28] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:29] TR News "My country's internet suffers from overseas cyber attacks" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/china_attackers_with_us_ips/ [09:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/china_attackers_with_us_ips/ [09:29] TR Bot China claims US IPs used to attack it, Russia and Ukraine The Register [09:30] TR News That would just help Russia, not harm Russia https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/ukraine_president_top_software_end_russia_support/ [09:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/ukraine_president_top_software_end_russia_support/ [09:30] TR Bot Zelenskyy asks Big Software to stop support in Russia The Register [09:31] TR News The cost of using Microsoft in Ukraine; this article uses Microsoft proxies to distract from the role played by Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/cyberciminals_russia_ukraine/ [09:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/cyberciminals_russia_ukraine/ [09:31] TR Bot Ukraine invasion opens political rift between cybercriminals The Register [09:34] *matey (~matey@aznruqq9uvrec.irc) has joined #techrights [09:35] TR News No, Microsoft shipping malware does not "Expose Open Source Risks"; Microsoft and GitHub are proprietary software https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/recent-code-sabotage-incident-latest-to-highlight-code-dependency-risks [09:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/recent-code-sabotage-incident-latest-to-highlight-code-dependency-risks [09:36] TR Bot Code-Sabotage Incident in Protest of Ukraine War Exposed Open Source Risks [09:36] TR News Incitement leads to sabotage; this one shipped by Microsoft [09:36] TR News Microsoft shipping malware again; media blames everyone but Microsoft [09:37] TR News "Packt recently sent me a review copy of their new machine learning book, Machine Learning with PyTorch and Scikit-Learn..." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bwQdE_Mkxlg [09:37] TR Bot Book Review: Machine Learning with PyTorch and Scikit-Learn - Invidious [09:38] TR News Yeah, I'm sure this really, REALLY hurts Putin https://www.rangefinderonline.com/news-features/industry-news/how-photo-industry-companies-are-helping-ukraine/ [09:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: rangefinderonline.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rangefinderonline.com/news-features/industry-news/how-photo-industry-companies-are-helping-ukraine/ [09:38] TR Bot How Photo Industry Companies are Helping as the War in Ukraine Rages On | Rangefinder [09:38] TR News "Nils Schmid, a member of Germanys Parliament and a foreign policy spokesman for the Social Democratic Party, was explaining to me what a minor role the military plays in his countrys politics." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/opinion/germany-ukraine-invasion.html still armed and dangerous [09:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/opinion/germany-ukraine-invasion.html [09:38] TR Bot Opinion | We Live in a Different World Now: Dispatch From a Changed Germany - The New York Times [09:39] matey Techrights-sec: while thats still most likely true, i did read the rest of that article of kuhns [09:39] matey and most of the article is not as bad as it looked at first [09:39] matey i will never trust kuhns intentions or approve of his tactics, but the article itself is for the most part benign [09:40] matey if it turns into an attack on freedom 0 i wont be surprised [09:40] matey in fact it looks like a prelude to that-- towards an ethical licensing etc etc [09:40] TR News This is a VERY bad thing https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/ukraine-clearview-facial-recognition-war/ [09:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/ukraine-clearview-facial-recognition-war/ [09:40] TR Bot Controversial Clearview AI tech used by Ukraine, says CEO The Register [09:40] matey still most of the article actually refutes ethical licensing [09:40] matey and then says "but lets have a second code of conduct" [09:40] TR News Ukraines Architectural Treasures Face Destruction - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/travel/ukraine-architecture-war.html [09:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/travel/ukraine-architecture-war.html [09:40] TR Bot Ukraines Architectural Treasures Face Destruction - The New York Times [09:41] matey in there, theres still a chance my first impression is correct [09:41] matey "but lets have a second code of conduct" <- heavily paraphrased [09:41] matey actually, it creates an interesting dilemma [09:42] TR News Oligarchs use Russian invasion to sell the illusion oligarchy cares for humans https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/03/supportukrainenow-lessons-from-young-people-humanitarian-response/ [09:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: weforum.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/03/supportukrainenow-lessons-from-young-people-humanitarian-response/ [09:42] TR Bot Lessons from young people on how to organise a humanitarian response | World Economic Forum [09:42] matey the things a community will do is decided per community in his proposal, not per author? [09:43] matey if you start out with a crazy (and divisive) example like helping an abortion clinic [09:43] schestowitz-TR context matters [09:43] schestowitz-TR in fosdem, they already gagged ibm critics [09:43] matey its easier to go from there to think of situations where you have something the size of say, debian, and theyre deciding what ethics [09:43] schestowitz-TR so you know sfc is in it for the money [09:44] schestowitz-TR and fosdem is europe [09:44] schestowitz-TR unlikes the sfc and others who monopolised the legal tracks [09:44] schestowitz-TR all from the us [09:44] matey schestowitz-TR: if im looking for reasons to not trust sfc, theres a lifetimes supply [09:44] matey i dont trust sfc [09:44] schestowitz-TR tell them about ethics [09:44] schestowitz-TR and ask them about many ibm abuses [09:44] schestowitz-TR they will gag you or change the subject [09:44] matey we have the same concerns here [09:44] schestowitz-TR they know where the money is [09:45] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:45] schestowitz-TR and usually, historically, money was in helping the oppressor/s [09:45] matey all im saying is that on a more thorough read of the article, the article itself is closer to benign than i thought [09:45] matey im sure my original concerns are still warranted [09:45] matey some of the specific reasons i had for them i may have overreacted at first [09:46] matey if you remove those, i still have plenty of justification for my concerns [09:46] matey in other words, this is more about the context-- and LESS about the article [09:46] matey there is at least one proposal in there that could go very very wrong [09:47] matey its too late for kuhn to be the next rms anyway [09:47] matey he will still try [09:48] matey he will draw open source closer to him and they will eat him like they usually do [09:48] matey but 5 years, 10 years, i dont know [09:48] matey schestowitz-TR: one thing im curious about is that mjg59_ still chats here [09:49] matey does that mean your legal "battle" is over? [09:49] matey i presume it was dismissed [09:58] matey at any rate, its hard to imagine his lawyer NOT advising him to stay out of chat until it is settled / dismissed whatever ● Mar 19 [10:07] TR News ATMs are typically compromised due to Windows, so Microsoft boosting sites issue headlines like these, instead https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-unix-rootkit-used-to-steal-atm-banking-data/ [10:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-unix-rootkit-used-to-steal-atm-banking-data/ [10:07] TR Bot New Unix rootkit used to steal ATM banking data [10:12] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:13] TR News Open Source in Entertainment: How the Academy Software Foundation Creates Shared Value Research Paper Released https://www.awn.com/news/open-source-entertainment-how-academy-software-foundation-creates-shared-value-research-paper not so open source http://techrights.org/2022/03/15/lfresearch_aswf_report/ [10:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: awn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.awn.com/news/open-source-entertainment-how-academy-software-foundation-creates-shared-value-research-paper [10:13] TR Bot Open Source in Entertainment: How the Academy Software Foundation Creates Shared Value Research Paper Released | Animation World Network [10:13] TR Bot Linux Foundation Research ASWF Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | Techrights [10:15] TR News Privacy lapses and loophole for EPO to grant software patents https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08481-w [10:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: nature.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08481-w [10:15] TR Bot Research on integrated simulation platform for urban traffic control connecting simulation and practice | Scientific Reports [10:15] TR News poisoning [10:15] TR News "If there was ever a reason to think data poisoning could fool facial-recognition software, a recently published paper showed that reasoning is bunk." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/research_finds_data_poisoning_cant/ [10:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/research_finds_data_poisoning_cant/ [10:15] TR Bot Data poisoning can't beat facial recognition research The Register [10:22] TR News "Humble Bundle has jumped in to help Ukraine now too, with a pretty amazing bundle full of games and 100% goes to charity. Launched late last night, it's already hit over $3 million." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/humble-have-a-stand-with-ukraine-bundle-with-100-going-to-charity/ [10:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/humble-have-a-stand-with-ukraine-bundle-with-100-going-to-charity/ [10:22] TR Bot have a Stand with Ukraine Bundle with 100% going to charity | GamingOnLinux [10:23] TR News Of course Intel outsourced Sound Open Firmware to Microsoft proprietary software. Intel is infested with Microsoft operatives who undermine Linux and Free software/GNU. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [10:23] TR Bot Intel leaks - Techrights [10:25] TR News Microsoft Windows helps Russia attack nations digitally https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/russia-attack-ngo-mfa-printnightmare/ [10:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/russia-attack-ngo-mfa-printnightmare/ [10:25] TR Bot Attackers breach NGO by exploiting MFA, PrintNightmare flaw The Register [10:26] TR News It is proprietary software bloat. Do not develop in it. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/matlab_update_markets/ [10:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/matlab_update_markets/ [10:26] TR Bot MATLAB expands to reach self-driving, wireless markets The Register [10:31] TR News GNU/Linux Inroads Through Restrictive Devices (and Games) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162726 [10:32] TR Bot GNU/Linux Inroads Through Restrictive Devices (and Games) | Tux Machines [10:33] TR News Arnold (@Schwarzenegger): "I love the Russian people. That is why I have to tell you the truth. Please watch and share." | nitter https://nitter.eu/Schwarzenegger/status/1504426844199669762 [10:33] TR Bot Arnold (@Schwarzenegger): "I love the Russian people. That is why I have to tell you the truth. Please watch and share." | nitter [10:34] TR News Clown, fluff, and Microsoft SPAM https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/microsoft_reseller_concerns/ Azure = layoffs, lies, hype, deceit. http://techrights.org/2020/07/19/azure-layoffs-and-beyond/ [10:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/microsoft_reseller_concerns/ [10:34] TR Bot Resellers concerned over Microsoft's New Commerce Experience The Register [10:34] TR Bot Microsoft Lays Off Azure Staff and Much More, Spins These Layoffs as Optimization Strategy | Techrights [10:35] TR News Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 is here Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162727 [10:35] TR Bot Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 is here | Tux Machines [10:37] Techrights-sec matey: it's about keeping work from getting done and about keeping particular people [10:37] Techrights-sec out of the way of obnoxious agendas. Anyway likely to stand up for [10:37] Techrights-sec the project and its goals can be shoved aside with one or two CoCs [10:38] TR News 8 Best Free and Open Source Ray Tracing Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162728 [10:38] matey Techrights-sec yes its a reasonable concern [10:38] TR Bot 8 Best Free and Open Source Ray Tracing Software | Tux Machines [10:39] matey we are "reading ahead" based on what we already know [10:39] TR News "To give better support we need to see your terminal output. This will be great if you are on ArcoLinuxD. Then we do not have a graphical interface. Asciinema is going to record what is happening in your terminal." https://arcolinux.com/use-asciinema-to-show-what-goes-on-in-your-terminal/ [10:39] TR Bot asciinema to show what goes on in your terminal | ArcoLinux [10:40] matey that text wasnt written solely to dismiss ethical source, its very much written in a way that implies future developments [10:41] TR News "Time for another KDE Frameworks 6 update! Since the last post we got Android CI coverage and had the Plasma 6 sprint, among other things." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/03/19/kf6-android-ci-plasma-sprint.html [10:41] TR Bot KDE Frameworks 6 Android CI and Plasma 6 Sprint [10:42] schestowitz-TR matey: yup [10:42] schestowitz-TR matey: of note [10:42] schestowitz-TR one of the trolls here works with the sfc [10:42] schestowitz-TR you know who [10:43] matey theyve claimed to or you suspect them? [10:43] schestowitz MinceR: gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D176.jpg [10:43] schestowitz matey: it's in the site [10:44] schestowitz https://sfconservancy.org/news/2022/feb/23/committee-ai-assisted-software-github-copilot/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/feb/03/github-copilot-copyleft-gpl/ [10:44] TR Bot New Committee Will Investigate Copyleft Implications of AI-Assisted Programming - Software Freedom Conservancy [10:44] TR Bot If Software is My Copilot, Who Programmed My Software? - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy [10:45] schestowitz next to Benjamin Mako Hill, [10:45] schestowitz-TR several departing FSF there [10:45] schestowitz-TR like I wrote yesterday [10:46] schestowitz-TR "splinter group" [10:46] schestowitz-TR and moreover, [10:46] schestowitz-TR they keep the debate about this GPL violation machine "professionak" [10:46] schestowitz-TR they won't mention Graveley, or de Icaza, ore Friedman [10:46] schestowitz-TR gotta deal "professionally" with a criminal company [10:46] schestowitz-TR keep the gloves on [10:46] schestowitz-TR while they take their trousers down [10:47] matey well sure, thats their schtick [10:47] schestowitz-TR to me, this sort of 'activism' is optimised for money [10:47] matey the fsf, only "professional" [10:47] schestowitz-TR corporate "sponsors" [10:47] matey a very old open source trope though [10:47] schestowitz-TR it's like a hybrid of FSF+LF [10:47] schestowitz-TR add LFism [10:47] matey "like free software, only better" [10:47] schestowitz-TR FSF=RMS= SEXXXXXIST [10:47] schestowitz-TR "give the money to US... we'll censor IBM critics"" [10:48] schestowitz-TR IBM and the SHOOOSHS! STFU" [10:48] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/02/08/fosdem-ibm-gag/ [10:48] TR Bot FOSDEM and Free Speech: Will It Blend? | Techrights [10:49] schestowitz-TR [10:47] "like free software, only better" [10:49] schestowitz-TR "like free software, only FART FART FART FAR" [10:50] matey i didnt think he was associated directly with sfc [10:50] schestowitz-TR no [10:50] schestowitz-TR not yet [10:50] matey okay [10:50] schestowitz-TR not directly anyway, but you can see who is there [10:51] schestowitz-TR several people who petitioned to remove RMS [10:51] schestowitz-TR they are not EXPERTS... in Microsoft "copilot" [10:51] schestowitz-TR and GPL violation encourager [10:51] matey oh wow [10:52] schestowitz-TR so they promise the protect the thing created by the person whom they cancel?strange if you ask me... [10:52] matey jeremy allison [10:52] matey he signed the anti-rms letter and hes on the board of directors at sfc [10:52] schestowitz-TR he left novell for gulag [10:53] schestowitz-TR after the microsoft-novell deal [10:53] schestowitz-TR he's not a bad person [10:53] schestowitz-TR but the employe is [10:53] schestowitz-TR *employer [10:53] schestowitz-TR rms is 'interfering' with such businesses [10:53] schestowitz https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-google.en.html [10:53] TR Bot Google's Software Is Malware - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [10:53] schestowitz https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-mobiles.en.html [10:53] TR Bot Malware in Mobile Devices - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [10:54] schestowitz-TR "move aside rms" [10:54] schestowitz-TR "you are INTERFERING... with STALIN"S DREAM" [10:54] matey so ive been through the entire list of staff and board [10:54] matey im not aware of any of those people chatting here [10:55] matey if you mean in the broader sense [10:55] matey people who lead the coup against rms [10:55] matey yes im aware [10:55] TR News "Across the globe, LibreOffice communities help to improve the software, translate the user interface, update documentation and spread the word. You can see a list of international projects on this page, and today were announcing communication channels for the Indian LibreOffice community!" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/03/19/join-the-indian-libreoffice-community/ [10:55] TR Bot Join the Indian LibreOffice community! - The Document Foundation Blog [10:58] TR News Simple Ways to Generate a Random Password on Linux Shell https://lateweb.info/simple-ways-to-generate-a-random-password-on-linux-shell/ [10:58] TR Bot Simple Ways to Generate a Random Password on Linux Shell [10:59] matey of 10 people on the sfc board, 4 signed the anti-rms letter-- from wikimedia, osi, creative commo [10:59] matey and samba ● Mar 19 [11:00] matey also one debian project leader (but thats still 4) [11:00] schestowitz-TR so they badmouth the "competition" at SFC [11:00] schestowitz-TR which is why bkuhn was forced to leave [11:00] matey then if you go to the staff page theres ANOTHER osi person who signed [11:00] schestowitz-TR or to "choose" [11:00] schestowitz-TR and yet, [11:00] schestowitz-TR LF is still full of Microsoft staff [11:00] schestowitz-TR as if no conflict exists [11:00] schestowitz-TR LF is toast [11:01] schestowitz-TR it's just CASHING In on the ATTACKS on Linux [11:01] schestowitz-TR if not its destruction [11:01] matey the fsf is helpless against lf though [11:01] schestowitz-TR some companies are willing to pay to harm it [11:01] schestowitz-TR LF staff PROFITS from this [11:01] schestowitz-TR as middlemen [11:02] matey in fact the fsf is basically helpless altogether [11:02] matey its basically checkmate [11:02] schestowitz-TR fsf made vetting errors [11:02] matey it goes beyond vetting errors [11:02] matey they made strategic errors [11:02] schestowitz-TR often the vetting errors are actively encouraged [11:02] schestowitz-TR using money [11:02] schestowitz-TR or "diversity" schtick [11:02] matey that wouldnt surprise me [11:02] schestowitz-TR "we must get more sponsors something....." [11:03] matey libeplanet already has a code of conduct [11:03] schestowitz-TR or "we need more [some perceive minority group]" [11:03] schestowitz-TR Gul;ag offers Gulag Summer of Labour cash [11:03] matey wait until they add kuhns new innovation [11:03] schestowitz-TR provided you hire some people who can barely code [11:03] matey i should point out, not everything about kuhns proposal is bad [11:04] matey it will be bad in practice because of the players involved [11:04] matey in theory though, the theory is closer to neutral [11:04] schestowitz-TR he deleted all his "dents" one by one [11:04] schestowitz-TR fearing people who do to him what he did to rms [11:04] matey kuhn? [11:04] schestowitz-TR yeah [11:04] schestowitz-TR zemlin did the same [11:04] schestowitz-TR in twitter "tweets" [11:04] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/ [11:05] TR Bot Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | Techrights [11:05] matey when did kuhn do that? [11:05] schestowitz incidentally, later today I'll do a video about leaving social control media and how waste of a time it was [11:05] schestowitz *how much [11:05] schestowitz in retrospect [11:05] schestowitz it peaked years ago [11:05] schestowitz maybe 5-7 years ago [11:05] matey let us know when you delete your twitter account [11:05] schestowitz matey: bkuhn did that maybe 4-5 years ago, from memory.. [11:06] schestowitz joindiaspora involuntary 'deleted' all the accounts [11:06] schestowitz against the will of users [11:06] schestowitz because of technical debt [11:06] matey yes i was one of them [11:06] schestowitz complex web crap with JS comes at a cost [11:07] schestowitz identica wiped [11:07] schestowitz JS wiped [11:07] matey and evan (identica) signed the list as well [11:07] schestowitz all my fediverse accounts [11:07] schestowitz usenet is still going [11:07] schestowitz twitter also, but they lose money [11:07] schestowitz so there's 'doomscrolling' for the investors [11:08] schestowitz pondering if there's still a point sinking money into it [11:08] matey it will get propped up by the government [11:08] *i\o has quit (Changing host) [11:08] *i\o (trttl@user/io/x-8562675) has joined #techrights [11:08] *i\o is now known as citoyen [11:08] schestowitz whose? [11:08] matey or bought by someone who can afford to run it at a loss [11:08] schestowitz saudi? [11:08] schestowitz it\s a propaganda machine [11:08] matey no question [11:08] matey maybe musk will buy it [11:09] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ [11:09] TR Bot Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights [11:09] schestowitz the operator of the platform weaponise it [11:09] schestowitz like "trending" [11:09] matey you think twitter will go under [11:09] matey i think it will get bought [11:09] schestowitz they rally online mobs like troops [11:09] matey lets see what happens first [11:09] matey we agree on the nature of twitter [11:09] schestowitz maybe FB will buy it [11:09] schestowitz for more "users" [11:09] schestowitz which evidently they lose [11:10] schestowitz this wa FB can buy some control over many thousands of politicians [11:10] schestowitz and game their visibility, words etc. [11:10] matey fb would gain the most from buying it [11:10] schestowitz if antitrust oks it [11:10] matey but i still think it will go to something closer to a vanity project [11:10] schestowitz likr insta [11:10] matey some rich guy will grab it [11:11] schestowitz jack? [11:11] matey instagram kind of is twitter already [11:11] schestowitz yeah, exactly [11:11] schestowitz and there's vine [11:11] schestowitz and giphy (fb) [11:11] schestowitz stopped [11:11] schestowitz in the UK [11:11] matey giphy is fb? [11:11] schestowitz https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/30/22740272/facebook-giphy-acquisition-competition-and-markets-authority-uk-regulator [11:12] TR Bot Meta ordered to sell Giphy by UK regulator - The Verge [11:12] matey oh, recent [11:12] schestowitz "The UKs competition regulator has officially ruled that Facebook parent company Metas acquisition of Giphy should be unwound, a year and a half after the social media giant first said it was acquiring the popular GIF-making and sharing website. In a press release, the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) said that it had come to the decision after its investigation found an acquisition could harm competition between social media platforms, [11:12] matey nasty [11:12] schestowitz and that its concerns can only be addressed by Facebook selling Giphy in its entirety to an approved buyer." [11:12] schestowitz te web IS nastry [11:12] schestowitz and getting worse [11:12] matey most of the pages i load look like theyre in a text browser [11:12] matey no css [11:12] matey no js [11:12] matey no images [11:13] schestowitz FB wants to put masks on people that it spies on [11:13] schestowitz telling investors not to worry, it's the FUTURE [11:13] schestowitz because they spammed the media with "metaverse" fluff [11:13] schestowitz incidentally when they renamed the company [11:13] schestowitz to stop the negative press cycle [11:14] schestowitz-TR CSS is OK if at your end [11:14] schestowitz-TR like the settings in your reader [11:14] schestowitz-TR but then it's not CSS [11:14] schestowitz-TR it's just reader configs [11:14] schestowitz-TR the consistent experience is a plus [11:14] matey i prefer to avoid custom per-site css [11:15] matey just because its a feature that doesnt exist with gemini [11:15] matey the closer my browsing gets to gemini, the better [11:15] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162729 [11:17] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:21] matey i forgot that sandler worked at gnome foundation [11:25] schestowitz-TR what does gnome foundation even do [11:25] schestowitz-TR I mean, "work" [11:25] schestowitz-TR they rarelym have coders [11:25] schestowitz-TR peters, sandler, bully... [11:25] schestowitz-TR are they just there to negotiate the price of corporation memberships? [11:30] TR News Links 19/3/2022: EasyOS 3.4.3 and Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/19/linux-mint-debian-edition-5/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/19/linux-mint-debian-edition-5/ [11:30] TR Bot Links 19/3/2022: EasyOS 3.4.3 and Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 | Techrights [11:32] TR News Openwashing and Monopolies Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162730 [11:32] TR Bot Openwashing and Monopolies | Tux Machines [11:33] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162731 [11:33] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:33] TR News Hardware/Devices: Pine64, Librem, RISC-V Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162732 [11:33] TR Bot Hardware/Devices: Pine64, Librem, RISC-V | Tux Machines [11:33] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162733 [11:33] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [11:34] kingoffrance "joindiaspora involuntary 'deleted' all the accounts against the will of users because of technical debt" remind you of anyone? .... :D seems to be going around :) [11:36] TR News I need to remember to check for ZFS filesystems being mounted https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSCheckForMounted [11:36] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/solaris/ZFSCheckForMounted [11:37] TR News Three DDoS attacks on my personal website https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/three-ddos-attacks-on-my-personal-website [11:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: jeffgeerling.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/three-ddos-attacks-on-my-personal-website [11:37] TR Bot Three DDoS attacks on my personal website | Jeff Geerling [11:37] schestowitz-TR kingoffrance: GulagPlus [11:37] schestowitz-TR security lapse found [11:37] schestowitz-TR Gulag: fix it? No [11:37] schestowitz-TR shut the whole thing down [11:38] schestowitz-TR at short notice [11:38] schestowitz-TR months [11:38] kingoffrance what? that's 3 [11:38] schestowitz-TR nice excuse [11:38] schestowitz-TR like Microsoft finding excuse for layiing off staff a [11:38] schestowitz-TR and shutting down failing units [11:38] schestowitz-TR like Micrsoofty Stores [11:39] TR News "So that led me into my current hybrid phase in which I'm relying entirely on low powered computer devices for the server-like infrastructure of my house (two Raspberry Pi 400s do most of the heavy lifting for file, backup and media services at home)" https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/3/finally-some-peace-and-quiet [11:39] TR Bot Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Finally... some Peace and Quiet [11:41] TR News "During this period, I acquired a pre-owned Flash Advance Linker, a device manufactured by Visoly in 2001. Because the previous owner was also selling his GBA, I ended up owning two of them." https://www.cambus.net/gba-nostalgia-and-the-flash-advance-linker/ [11:41] TR Bot GBA nostalgia and the Flash Advance Linker | Frederic Cambus [11:42] TR News "To try and make human power production more useful, we built not just a pedal power generator but also a control panel in the form of a dashboard attached to the handlebars." https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2022/03/how-to-build-bike-generator.html [11:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: lowtechmagazine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2022/03/how-to-build-bike-generator.html [11:42] TR Bot How to Build a Bike Generator with Control Panel - LOW-TECH MAGAZINE [11:44] TR News "For many years I have been known as the ThinkPad guy. Ive always used IBM / Lenovo ThinkPad laptops where possible." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/03/16/review-framework-laptop/ [11:44] TR Bot Review: Framework Laptop LinuxJedi's /dev/null [11:46] TR News Yesterday, the Senate unanimously passed The Sunshine Protection Act, which is a bill that makes Daylight Saving Time permanent in the U.S." https://matt-rickard.com/against-dst/ [11:46] TR Bot Problems with Daylight Saving Time [11:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/against-dst/ [11:47] TR News "Maybe we got it right on this one. Cool. I prefer the consistent model as well." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-quick-thought-on-removing-daylight-savings/ [11:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: danielmiessler.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-quick-thought-on-removing-daylight-savings/ [11:47] TR Bot A Quick Thought on Removing Daylight Saving(s) - Daniel Miessler [11:50] TR News Twitter is a dying platform. This is a symptom of the death. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/18/22985073/microsoft-xbox-clips-twitter-harder-to-share-insider [11:50] TR Bot Microsoft might make it harder to share Xbox clips to Twitter - The Verge [11:51] TR News Microsoft delivering malware again https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/war-fallout-software-sabotaged-to-wipe-files-from-some-pcs.html [11:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/war-fallout-software-sabotaged-to-wipe-files-from-some-pcs.html [11:51] TR Bot - War fallout: software sabotaged to wipe files from some PCs [11:52] TR News "the phone uses more power and drains the battery faster" https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/03/you-dont-need-ram-cleaners-phone-boosters-on-your-phone-delete-now/ [11:52] TR Bot People please, you dont need RAM cleaners/optimisers, phone boosters on your phones - Techzim [11:53] TR News Proprietary Apple https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/how-this-software-is-being-used-to-target-apple-users-with-malware/90306269 [11:53] TR Bot malware: How this software is being used to target Apple users with malware, CIO News, ET CIO ● Mar 19 [12:01] matey maybe social media isnt a service at all [12:01] matey maybe its just a trap for messages and contacts [12:01] matey the owners keep that-- the users dont [12:05] matey schestowitz-TR: For some time already, Ludovic and Marius have voiced their desire to step down from the Guix maintainers collective. An email announcing the news and calling for new maintainers was sent more than 4 months ago. We're very happy to announce that Efraim Flashner [12:05] matey ^ haha [12:07] matey down steps one anti-rms guy, up steps another [12:08] matey efraim is another backstabber [12:08] matey but its alright, there were one or two guix guys that signed the pro-rms petition [12:08] matey thats hardly enough to go around [12:09] matey considering the anti-rms people at guix have been fighting against free software for three years [12:10] matey maybe theyll do like the fsf and *shakes head* probably not [12:10] matey libreplanet and guix are both trojan horses [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 93.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.09 [12:10] activelow GNU Guix has other problems then defining what a pro or anti-rms guy was [12:11] matey i wouldnt use it if it was the last operating system on earth [12:12] activelow which is guix maintained the bootstrapping procedure for GCC, and it is broken for a long time (not guix nor gnu at fault, just a fact) [12:12] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 93.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.09 [12:12] matey not guix nor gnu at fault <- oh i dont know, it could be both [12:12] *mimorek (~mimorek@trhncgdin767n.irc) has joined #techrights [12:12] activelow and since gcc switched to c++ internally, the route to bootstrap GCC with an alternative C-compiler such as TinyCC is blocked too [12:13] activelow and i think, neither GCC nor Guix nor GNU crowd had realized yet, what happened since then [12:13] matey maybe they know [12:13] matey maybe they dont care [12:14] matey gnome doesnt care if peoples computers work with anything other than gnome [12:14] matey maybe guix doesnt care if peoples computers work with anything other than guix [12:14] matey the developers have enough in common [12:14] matey you know the critique used to be "nih" not invented here [12:15] matey now its "already exists" [12:15] matey cant use make, it already exists [12:16] matey systemd: replace sysvinit with an entire operating system! [12:16] matey mozilla: replace the web browser with an entire operating system! [12:16] matey docker: replace every application with an entire operating system! [12:16] matey guix: replace make with an entire operating system! [12:17] matey theres too many fucking operating systems vying for the same installation [12:17] matey better buy more computers! hey, this has 256 cores! better replace it with something thats not old [12:18] matey maybe thats why ariadne likes mainframes, she knows shes going to need one just to run the next os they saddle us with [12:20] matey "hmm only 256 cores, maybe i can put openwrt on it" [12:20] matey remember when we used to make fun of windows for this? [12:21] matey microsoft <3 linux but theyre a golddigger [12:22] kingoffrance pretty sure ms wants your soul [12:22] kingoffrance :D [12:22] matey go on gates, go head get down, go on gates, go head get down [12:22] TR News "The relatively cheap GoIP-1 GSM gateway device I bought specifically for my wardialing project has the functionality to send SMS messages and to make calls on the PSTN network" https://shufflingbytes.com/posts/hacking-goip-gsm-gateway/ [12:22] TR Bot GoIP-1 GSM gateway could be harnessed for phone fraud by hackers [12:23] TR News "Authorization vulnerabilities allow malicious users to perform unwanted actions or access resources that are deemed protected otherwise." https://goteleport.com/blog/authorization-vulnerabilities/ [12:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: goteleport.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://goteleport.com/blog/authorization-vulnerabilities/ [12:23] TR Bot 7 Common Authorization Vulnerabilities | Teleport [12:24] matey pretty sure ms wants your soul <- then they can sell it back to you on a subscription-only basis [12:24] *bnchs (~bnchs@e862bn5jnaz4w.irc) has joined #techrights [12:25] bnchs i was gonna lose hope when i went to my store's computer section, but was surprised when i found a laptop running GNU/Linux [12:25] TR News "Unfortunately, the email that Facebook sent from the address security@facebookmail.com resembled a rather common form of spam" https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/18/22984802/facebook-protect-lock-out-twitter [12:25] TR Bot Facebook is locking out people who didnt activate Facebook Protect - The Verge [12:25] bnchs sure it was just 1 laptop running GNU/Linux out of the rest of other laptops running windows [12:25] matey ubuntu? [12:25] TR News Only a slap in the wrist for this espionage outfit. "London, Ireland's Data Protection Commission (DPC) has fined Meta, Facebook's parent company, 17 million euros ($18.6 million) for several data breaches that affected up to 30 million users." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/irish-consumer-watchdog-fines-meta-18-6-mn-for-12-data-breaches/90303538 [12:25] TR Bot Irish consumer watchdog fines Meta $18.6 mn for 12 data breaches, CIO News, ET CIO [12:26] bnchs yes [12:26] matey i wonder if it would let you install upstart [12:26] matey /me goes to check the repos [12:26] bnchs it was progress [12:26] TR News Only dumb people would tolerate and buy such 'cars' https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/your-connected-car-knows-you-tussle-that-datas-hitting-high-gear-2022-03-14/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/ [12:26] TR Bot connected car knows you. The tussle for that data's hitting high gear | Reuters [12:26] TR Bot Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights [12:26] bnchs even if it was just one computer running ubuntu [12:27] TR News "Despite public assertions that it had gone dormant, a multi-agency task force consisting of federal, state, and local police that was created to monitor protests" https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/17/1047413/secret-police-surveillance-protesters-george-floyd-operation-safety-net/ [12:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: technologyreview.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/17/1047413/secret-police-surveillance-protesters-george-floyd-operation-safety-net/ [12:27] TR Bot A police system for watching protesters kept going after George Floyds murder | MIT Technology Review [12:28] bnchs also the usual placeholder OS called freedos [12:28] bnchs installed on some of the laptops [12:28] TR News "Its been well-known that the first mainstream Swedish RPG, a translation of RuneQuest (to be specific, a backport of some Gloranthan elements to the Magic World BRP ruleset from Worlds of Wonder), was published by a former Chaosium intern" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/drakar [12:29] matey its not in jammy yet [12:30] bnchs also if you count EFI shell as well [12:30] TR News "Last in an attempt to do Gemini the right way, I created a self-signed cert for TOFU, which was configured to expire after one year. I thought this would be more convenient than simply using my LetsEncrypt cert." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202203191328.gmi [12:30] bnchs windows may be a majority other than EFI shell, freedos, GNU/Linux [12:31] *inky (~inky@5.77.161.217) has joined #techrights [12:31] matey i dont think its in impish either [12:32] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [12:33] TR News "Server sounds like a big word for a small single board computer, more specifically a APU2 board by pcengines.ch[a]. This board features 3 ethernet interfaces and therefore is used as a gateway, directing all outbound traffic towards the internet connection (Fritz!Box)" gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220319-re-self-hosting.gmi [12:33] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:34] matey upstart isnt in ubuntu impish, trisquel 10 or trisquel 9, apparently [12:34] TR News Android Alpha 7 (Lagrange v1.12 Preview) gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-03_android-alpha7.gmi [12:34] matey nope, ubuntu and trisquel are systemd-ONLY [12:34] matey nice work, idiots [12:35] *bnchs (~bnchs@e862bn5jnaz4w.irc) has joined #techrights [12:35] activelow systemd can be removed; [12:35] matey yeah and replaced with busybox [12:35] activelow the biggest issue currently seems to be GCC (and llvm/clang alike) [12:35] matey or your autoexec thing [12:36] bnchs kingoffrance: pretty sure ms wants your soul [12:36] bnchs yea [12:36] activelow matey: linux doesn't bother what to execute as pid1, however it is impossible to compile linux kernel and most GNU userspace with a C compiler [12:36] activelow including GCC itself [12:36] bnchs "heres the offer: education license for office in exchange for your SOUL" [12:36] matey ibm: if m$ gets your soul, can i have your computer? [12:37] bnchs windows OEM license in exchange for your SOUL [12:37] matey the "e" in "eula" stands for "eternal" [12:37] matey eternal user lease agreement (lease yourself to us) [12:38] bnchs libreoffice has as much (if not more) features as m$ officr [12:38] bnchs but you find shills saying that libreoffice is BAD [12:38] bnchs libreoffice doesnt read proprietary undocumented file formats WELL [12:39] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:39] bnchs hello darwin [12:39] matey youre just a theory, darwin [12:40] bnchs i hate proprietards [12:40] matey thats what linus claims, its about hate [12:41] matey free software is just a kind of bigotry i guess [12:41] bnchs matey: linus the retarded e-celeb with 2 sponsors a video? [12:41] bnchs or linus torvalds? [12:41] matey bnchs: funnily enough, the finnish one [12:41] bnchs ok [12:41] bnchs we love proprietards [12:41] bnchs we love microsodt [12:41] TR News "For undeadly readers, our Errata column on the right side of the web site automatically updates and as of March 15th, 2022 some of you may have already noticed that there is a new security fix" https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220318065203 [12:41] TR Bot LibreSSL 3.5.1 development branch as well as 3.4.3 (stable) and 3.3.6 released [12:41] matey thats better [12:41] bnchs we love IBM [12:42] matey linux <3 microsoft [12:42] bnchs linux (stockholm syndrome) microsoft [12:42] matey war <3 peace [12:42] matey freedom <3 slavery [12:43] matey ignorance <3 strength [12:43] bnchs microsoft raped linux [12:43] TR News "Many cyber experts and U.S. intelligence officials predicted that Russia would launch massive cyberattacks, especially following crippling economic sanctions imposed by the U.S. and Europe" https://thehill.com/policy/international/598138-intel-chair-amazed-russia-hasnt-launched-full-scale-cyberwarfare [12:43] TR Bot chair 'amazed' Russia hasn't launched full-scale cyberwarfare | TheHill [12:43] bnchs thats what they mean by microsoft <3 linux [12:43] bnchs because they raped linux [12:43] TR News Ukraine still pays a very heavy price for using Microsoft Windows https://www.vice.com/en/article/88gbk5/why-we-havent-seen-debilitating-cyberwar-in-ukraine [12:43] TR Bot Why We Havent Seen Debilitating Cyberwar in Ukraine [12:44] matey linux (stockholm syndrome) microsoft <- this one [12:44] matey libreplanet <3 rms [12:45] TR News "According to an email from a Republican state central committee member that was obtained by the Dispatch, an unnamed lawmaker intends onto file an impeachment charge against the judge." https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ohio-republicans-impeach-judge-gerrymander-1323657/ [12:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ohio-republicans-impeach-judge-gerrymander-1323657/ [12:45] TR Bot Ohio Republicans Would Rather Impeach a Judge than Stop Cheating at Elections - Rolling Stone [12:45] bnchs rms <3 free software [12:45] bnchs guix By blocking online platforms, shutting down the last vestige of Russias independent media and making it a crime to refer to the fighting in Ukraine as a war" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/business/chinas-russia-information.html [13:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/business/chinas-russia-information.html [13:10] TR News Russia Says YouTube Users Spreading 'Terrorist' Threats https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-says-youtube-users-spreading-terrorist-threats-/6491336.html [13:11] TR News "One can only hope that Friday, March 18, 2022 will mark the nadir of the moral panic over "cancel culture" that has gripped not just the American right, but also the upper echelons of elite journalism" https://www.salon.com/2022/03/18/what-the-new-york-times-doesnt-get-about-free-speech-and-cancel-culture/ [13:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: salon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2022/03/18/what-the-new-york-times-doesnt-get-about-free-speech-and-cancel-culture/ [13:13] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [13:13] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [13:14] TR News "The court convicted Martsinovich and Skurko on that charge on Tuesday, March 15, despite their having reimbursed the electric company for 10,000 roubles (US$3,000) in alleged damages" https://cpj.org/2022/03/belarus-court-sentences-journalist-yahor-martsinovich-to-2-5-years-in-prison/ [13:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: cpj.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cpj.org/2022/03/belarus-court-sentences-journalist-yahor-martsinovich-to-2-5-years-in-prison/ [13:14] TR Bot Belarus court sentences journalist Yahor Martsinovich to 2.5 years in prison - Committee to Protect Journalists [13:15] TR News "Workers at Amazons LDJ5 facility in Staten Island in New York City will be voting on whether to unionize with the Amazon Labor Union starting April 25th, according to a report from CNBC." https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/18/22985518/amazon-warehouse-union-election-second-staten-island-ldj5 [13:15] TR Bot Workers at another NYC Amazon warehouse now have a union election date - The Verge [13:15] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:15] *matey has quit (connection closed) [13:15] kingoffrance hmm...(move to another channel if it gets out of hand) i am curious the nasdaq link paints bitcoin as freedom, and versus gov as fiat/coercion, rather than seeing it as a natural progression, [*] coin -> paper -> credit -> [digits in computer] [*] not arguing what was "first" so you could insert many things "before" that [13:16] TR News These butchers own a British football club, NUFC, and a large portion of Twitter https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/saudi-arabia-executes-81-people-show-force-emboldened-mohammed-bin-ncna1292176 [13:16] TR Bot Saudi Arabia executes 81 people in show of force by an emboldened Mohammed bin Salman [13:16] kingoffrance and funny enough, it argues about gov wanting to "attract" all the young coin entrepreneurs ...this is not "coercion [13:16] kingoffrance " or gov exercising "fiat" powers [13:16] TR News Gulag hates blacks https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/google-hit-with-lawsuit-over-alleged-discrimination-against-black-employees.html [13:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/google-hit-with-lawsuit-over-alleged-discrimination-against-black-employees.html [13:17] TR Bot - Google hit with lawsuit over alleged discrimination against black employees [13:17] kingoffrance it seems an exercise in word games :/ [13:17] MinceR 19 114322 <~schestowitz> MinceR: gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D176.jpg [13:17] MinceR :3 [13:18] kingoffrance entrepreneurs to'gov: we hate your coercion and your fiat, ,but you need us, and we need your tax breaks/incentives/etc. [13:19] kingoffrance it seems like the omnipersent forked tongue to me lol [13:19] kingoffrance *omnipresent [13:19] TR News
  • [13:19] kingoffrance we need you gov for your limited legal liability [13:19] TR News Dogs are more civilised than a lot of cops https://reason.com/2022/03/17/police-officer-kills-dog-for-walking-toward-him-with-tail-wagging/ [13:19] TR Bot Police Officer Kills Dog for Walking Toward Him With Tail Wagging [13:20] kingoffrance which is exactly how "fiat" is allowed in the first place. the cure is more of the disease [13:21] kingoffrance literally how "the fed" was justified too. let the business people run things [13:21] TR News "Despite being unarmed, nonthreatening, and minding his own business, the police proceeded to use lethal force" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unarmed-black-man-grabbing-tea-car-shot-new-jersey-police-paralyzed-la-rcna20640 [13:21] TR Bot Black man grabbing tea from car shot by New Jersey police and paralyzed, lawsuit says [13:21] kingoffrance anyway enough lol just amazing satire as always :D [13:22] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:23] TR News splinternet https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/17/1047352/russia-splinternet-risk/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/ [13:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: technologyreview.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/17/1047352/russia-splinternet-risk/ [13:23] TR Bot Russia is risking the creation of a splinternetand it could be irreversible | MIT Technology Review [13:23] TR Bot The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | Techrights [13:23] kingoffrance "unity of opposites" is not just a supposed "marxist" thing, it is how the business people roll [13:24] TR News Internet, a US military project left to universities, long based on the assumption of world calm, peace. Not using people's IP address to attack them, wipe data, dox, blackmail. Never mind disinformation aspects! [13:26] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM): "Hardware security modules (HSM) and trusted platform modules (TPM) seemingly do the same thing: they manage secret keys and enable data protection." https://goteleport.com/blog/tpm-vs-hsm-difference/ [13:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: goteleport.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://goteleport.com/blog/tpm-vs-hsm-difference/ [13:26] TR Bot What is the difference between HSM and TSM? | Teleport [13:27] TR News Microsoft: a mafia with "tech" as cover https://itwire.com/business-it-news/cloud/three-european-cloud-providers-file-anti-trust-complaint-against-microsoft.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [13:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/cloud/three-european-cloud-providers-file-anti-trust-complaint-against-microsoft.html [13:27] TR Bot - Three European cloud providers file anti-trust complaint against Microsoft [13:27] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [13:27] *inky_ (~inky@37.252.67.70) has joined #techrights [13:28] TR News "Under the proposed law, the government would also be able to retroactively break up deals that result in a market share above 50% or that are considered to materially harm competition" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/progressives-anti-merger-bill-new-facebook-parental-controls-verizon-helps-defense-department/ [13:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/progressives-anti-merger-bill-new-facebook-parental-controls-verizon-helps-defense-department/ [13:28] TR Bot Progressives Anti-Merger Bill, New Facebook Parental Controls, Verizon Helps Defense Department : Broadband Breakfast [13:29] TR News Pine64 Announces the QuartzPro64! https://odysee.com/@LinuxLounge:b/pine64-announces-the-quartzpro64!:b [13:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@LinuxLounge:b/pine64-announces-the-quartzpro64!:b [13:29] TR Bot Pine64 Announces the QuartzPro64! [13:30] TR News #swpatents mentioned in passing at 2:38 https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/information-wants-to-be-free:5 [13:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/information-wants-to-be-free:5 [13:30] TR Bot Information Wants To Be Free [13:33] TR News "There was a time when all that was available to the electronics hobbyist were passive components and vacuum tubes." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/18/the-open-source-asics-hack-chat-redefines-possible/ [13:33] TR Bot Open Source ASICs Hack Chat Redefines Possible | Hackaday [13:49] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:50] *inky_ (~inky@37.252.67.70) has joined #techrights ● Mar 19 [14:00] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 53.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.13 [14:00] schestowitz MinceR: Football: a club for every corrupt tax evader, eve terrorist https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/18/football/premier-league-newcastle-united-chelsea-owners-spt-intl/index.html [14:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/18/football/premier-league-newcastle-united-chelsea-owners-spt-intl/index.html [14:00] TR Bot Chelsea FC: 81 executions in Saudi Arabia on one day and horror of Russia's invasion of Ukraine buffet the Premier League - CNN [14:00] schestowitz oops [14:01] schestowitz wring pasasre [14:01] schestowitz gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D532.jpg [14:01] schestowitz lots more there [14:03] TR News venturebeat now running articles for patent extremists, lobbyists and former 'judges' in the pockets of the litigation fanatics https://venturebeat.com/2022/03/17/us-patent-system-weakens-protect-ip-to-keep-american-tech-at-the-top/ [14:03] TR Bot patent system weakens: Protect IP to keep American tech at the top | VentureBeat [14:05] TR News Real security for a change? https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/03/18/security-course-at-cambridge/ [14:05] TR Bot Security course at Cambridge | Light Blue Touchpaper [14:06] MinceR too bad both of my GUI gemini browsers use Qt [14:06] MinceR and so copy/paste is broken in all of them [14:06] TR News emptywheel defected, not lobbying for the fascists https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/03/17/five-years-after-assange-exposed-cia-identities-in-vault-7-uk-moves-closer-to-extradition/ [14:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: emptywheel.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/03/17/five-years-after-assange-exposed-cia-identities-in-vault-7-uk-moves-closer-to-extradition/ [14:06] TR Bot Five Years after WikiLeaks Exposed CIA Identities in Vault 7, UK Moves Closer to Assange Extradition - emptywheel [14:08] TR News economictimes publishing disgusting Microsoft proipaganda. It paints as "green" (greenwash/ing) Microsoft datacentres that are burning fossil fuel... portraying these as something that is in fact good for the planet [14:09] TR News "Executive Order on Ensuring Responsible Development of Digital Assets" https://www-version2-dk.translate.goog/blog/saa-sagt-1094425?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB [14:09] TR Bot S er det sagt... | Version2 [14:10] TR News All the fake 'security' firms produce malicious software, not only kaspersky https://www.computerworld.com/article/3654149/do-svidaniya-kaspersky-goodbye.html [14:10] TR Bot svidaniya, Kaspersky goodbye | Computerworld [14:11] TR News "Tor Browser 11.0.9 is now available from the Tor Browser download page and also from our distribution directory" https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1109/ [14:11] TR Bot New Release: Tor Browser 11.0.9 (Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project [14:13] TR News "A disparaging term for BitCoin, a play on the Dunning-Kruger effect." https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dunning-krugerrand [14:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: urbandictionary.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dunning-krugerrand [14:13] TR Bot Urban Dictionary: dunning-krugerrand [14:14] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:15] *inky_ (~inky@37.252.67.70) has joined #techrights [14:18] TR News "Blueprint on open access to UKs digital cultural heritage collections welcomed" https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/18/blueprint-on-open-access-to-uks-digital-cultural-heritage-collections-welcomed/ [14:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/18/blueprint-on-open-access-to-uks-digital-cultural-heritage-collections-welcomed/ [14:18] TR Bot Blueprint on open access to UKs digital cultural heritage collections welcomed - Creative Commons [14:19] TR News DirecTV https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/18/conspiracy-channel-oan-pouts-more-sues-directv-for-kicking-it-to-the-curb/ [14:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/18/conspiracy-channel-oan-pouts-more-sues-directv-for-kicking-it-to-the-curb/ [14:19] TR Bot Channel OAN Pouts More, Sues DirecTV For Kicking It To The Curb | Techdirt [14:21] TR News "antivaccine movement for many years now. One strain of such rhetoric has been the call for Nuremberg-style tribunals for physicians" https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/03/18/bhattacharya-and-kulldorf-want-to-hold-lockdowners-accountable/ [14:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: respectfulinsolence.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/03/18/bhattacharya-and-kulldorf-want-to-hold-lockdowners-accountable/ [14:21] TR Bot Jay Bhattacharya and Martin Kulldorff want to hold "lockdowners" accountable - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE [14:21] TR News "Feminism is a cause of South Koreas rock-bottom birthrate. The gender-equality ministry should be dismantled. Theres no structural discrimination against women." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/south-korea-yoon-suk-yeol/ [14:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/south-korea-yoon-suk-yeol/ [14:21] TR Bot South Korean Feminists Brace for a Long, Hard Winter Under a Right-Wing Leader | The Nation [14:23] TR News "Democratic leaders are scrambling to find a path forward for a roughly $16 billion aid package" while GIVING TRILLIONS to large CORPORATIONS and OLIGARCHS https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/18/fears-new-covid-wave-grow-gop-actively-sabotaging-aid-effort [14:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/18/fears-new-covid-wave-grow-gop-actively-sabotaging-aid-effort [14:23] TR Bot Fears of New Covid Wave Grow as GOP Is 'Actively Sabotaging' Aid Effort [14:24] TR News "Suppose the United States government is guilty of assassination, torture, kidnapping, or other comparably appalling crimes in the name of national securitydo we have the right to know about it?" https://www.thenation.com/article/world/supreme-court-state-secrets/ [14:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/supreme-court-state-secrets/ [14:24] TR Bot The State Secrets Privilege Is a Tool of Injustice | The Nation [14:25] TR News Oil kills elephants, too, https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/18/fossil-fuel-extraction-threatens-africas-remaining-elephants/ [14:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/18/fossil-fuel-extraction-threatens-africas-remaining-elephants/ [14:25] TR Bot Fuel Extraction Threatens Africas Remaining Elephants - CounterPunch.org [14:31] TR News Economic Sanctions Kill 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Pay-Outs To European ISPs Would Just Concentrate Their Power | Techdirt [14:35] TR News TorrentFreak scares the copyright cartel https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-company-asks-court-to-keep-filings-secret-as-torrentfreak-might-report-on-them-220318/ [14:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-company-asks-court-to-keep-filings-secret-as-torrentfreak-might-report-on-them-220318/ [14:35] TR Bot Company Asks Court to Keep Filings Secret as TorrentFreak Might Report On Them * TorrentFreak [14:36] TR News "social media company Triller launched an aggressive $100m legal campaign against entities that allegedly streamed the Jake Paul vs Ben Askren boxing match without permission." https://torrentfreak.com/triller-abandons-multi-million-jake-paul-fight-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-220318/ [14:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/triller-abandons-multi-million-jake-paul-fight-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-220318/ [14:36] TR Bot Abandons Multi-Million 'Jake Paul' Fight Copyright Infringement Lawsuit * TorrentFreak [14:37] TR News ">A year ago, the wonderful podcast, 99% Invisible, had a great episode exploring the history of state slogans and other statements ending up on license plates." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/18/jehovahs-witnesses-abusing-copyright-subpoena-process-to-unmask-critics/ [14:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/18/jehovahs-witnesses-abusing-copyright-subpoena-process-to-unmask-critics/ [14:37] TR Bot Witnesses Abusing Copyright Subpoena Process To Unmask Critics | Techdirt [14:39] TR News When oligarchs own the media https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/18/corporate-media-accused-cheerleading-us-escalation-ukraine [14:39] Alternative link 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[14:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/18/how-fix-americas-badly-broken-system-taxing-ultra-rich [14:42] TR Bot Opinion | How to Fix Americas Badly Broken System for Taxing the Ultra-Rich | Bob Lord [14:43] TR News "Finland is the happiest country in the world, followed by Denmark and Iceland, withother Scandinavian social democracies Sweden and Norway not far behind." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/18/social-democracy-lands-finland-atop-world-happiness-ranking [14:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/18/social-democracy-lands-finland-atop-world-happiness-ranking [14:43] TR Bot Social Democracy Lands Finland Atop World Happiness Ranking [14:51] TR News "io_uring updates for the 5.18-rc1 merge window." https://lore.kernel.org/io-uring/b7bbc124-8502-0ee9-d4c8-7c41b4487264@kernel.dk/ [14:51] TR Bot [GIT PULL] io_uring updates for 5.18-rc1 - Jens Axboe [14:53] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [14:54] TR News Asahi Linux Alpha lets you run Linux on Apple Silicon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162724#comment-33109 [14:54] TR Bot The first Asahi Linux Alpha Release is here! | Tux Machines [14:56] TR News How CAPTCHA puzzles cloak phishing page URLs in emails - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/captcha_phishinbg_url/ [14:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/captcha_phishinbg_url/ [14:56] TR Bot How CAPTCHA puzzles cloak phishing page URLs in emails The Register [14:56] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/shooting.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-shooting#comic ) [14:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: 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News Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162734 [15:31] TR Bot Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:31] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: FPGAs, DDoS Attacks, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162735 [15:31] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: FPGAs, DDoS Attacks, and More | Tux Machines [15:31] TR News Software and Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162736 [15:31] TR Bot Software and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:33] TR News 'Owning' land. You know your country is "sold" when... https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/harris-family-land-donation-boise-school-district/277-764e7d4b-2bba-4e98-a39f-d45b38576b28 [15:33] TR Bot family makes land donation to Boise School District | ktvb.com [15:34] TR News "For the first time in two years, on Monday, March 14, children and staff will come and go to schools without any requirement that they wear face coverings. We recognize and honor the decisions by the authorities to remove the mask mandate." COVID-19 approves, will spread faster now. https://bsd405.org/2022/03/message-to-families-mask-wearing/ [15:34] TR Bot A Message to BSD Families About Mask Wearing Bellevue School District [15:38] TR News Brian Fox never talks about actual back doors in proprietary software; his company is basing its existence on spreading fear of Free software https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/03/securing-open-source-deployment/ [15:38] TR Bot Securing the Open-Source Software Supply Chain [15:39] TR News "ethical or white hat hackers employ their expertise to discover and fix vulnerabilities and security hazards in a computer system." https://www.thehindu.com/education/how-to-become-an-ethical-hacker/article65226813.ece [15:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: thehindu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thehindu.com/education/how-to-become-an-ethical-hacker/article65226813.ece [15:39] TR Bot Career in Ethical Hacking - The Hindu [15:43] TR News The article mentions Shadow Brokers; it's the cost of using Microsoft Windows https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/cyberattack-on-israel-government-websites-crash-71647321572035.html [15:43] TR Bot Cyberattack on Israel! Government websites crash [15:43] TR News University of Arkansas teaching GNU/UNIX and Git https://news.uark.edu/articles/59321/upgrade-your-software-skills-with-the-university-libraries [15:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: uark.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.uark.edu/articles/59321/upgrade-your-software-skills-with-the-university-libraries [15:43] TR Bot Upgrade Your Software Skills With the University Libraries | University of Arkansas [15:44] *bnchs (~bnchs@qawdzg548a46q.irc) has joined #techrights [15:45] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [15:45] TR News "incidents of improper use of NASA IT systems had increased from 249 in 2017 to 1,103 in 2020 a 343 per cent growth; the most prevalent error was failing to protect Sensitive but unclassified (SBU) information." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/nasa_insider_threat_audit/ [15:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/nasa_insider_threat_audit/ [15:45] TR Bot NASA in 'serious jeopardy' due to big black hole in security The Register [15:46] *bnchs (~bnchs@qawdzg548a46q.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] TR News LOL "Metaverse"... just keep throwing in some buzzwords for hype's sake https://www.econotimes.com/Blockchain-Pantera-Animoca-Brands-lead-investment-for-Metaverse-Game-Studios-1629232 [15:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: econotimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.econotimes.com/Blockchain-Pantera-Animoca-Brands-lead-investment-for-Metaverse-Game-Studios-1629232 [15:46] TR Bot Pantera, Animoca Brands lead investment for Metaverse Game Studios - EconoTimes [15:46] bnchs why does LLVM need more than 4GB to compile????? [15:46] bnchs i compiled GCC 11 in 4GB [15:47] SomeH4x0r because the devilopers want you to buy a new hardware [15:47] SomeH4x0r then again and again and again, loop [15:47] bnchs this is why GCC is better than LLVM [15:47] TR News Calling everything "HEY HI" again... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/deep_learning_vision_kubric/ [15:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/deep_learning_vision_kubric/ [15:47] TR Bot Googlers and friends offer video dataset-generating Kubric The Register [15:47] bnchs and i still dont know why xorg depends on LLVM [15:47] SomeH4x0r only a bit [15:47] SomeH4x0r it is all shit [15:48] SomeH4x0r computing is fucked up [15:48] bnchs xorg depends on a compiler [15:48] bnchs that cant compile in 4GB ram [15:48] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:48] bnchs now i wonder why the fuck [15:48] SomeH4x0r we had much less RAM in the past [15:48] SomeH4x0r bnchs: ^ devilopers [15:49] SomeH4x0r > because the devilopers want you to buy a new hardware [15:49] bnchs yes [15:49] SomeH4x0r > then again and again and again, loop [15:49] TR News NSA and its partners, like Microsoft, are the world's biggest threat to security because they actively undermine it https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/china_nsa_nopen/ [15:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/china_nsa_nopen/ [15:49] TR Bot China claims it captured NSA spy tool that already leaked The Register [15:49] SomeH4x0r free software is not exempt [15:49] bnchs but why does xorg really need LLVM [15:49] bnchs or mesa [15:49] bnchs why do them really need LLVM [15:50] TR News "IP" is the wrong term, but low-quality publishers repeat such propaganda terms https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/sifive_alphaware/ [15:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/sifive_alphaware/ [15:50] TR Bot RISC-V's SiFive sells connectivity IP to Alphawave The Register [15:51] TR News The best Raspberry Pi projects you can do at home - Reviewed https://www.reviewed.com/laptops/features/raspberry-pi-projects "The Raspberry Pi is useful for streaming games, running operating systems, making an NAS, playing retro games, and more." [15:51] TR Bot best Raspberry Pi projects you can do at home - Reviewed [15:51] SomeH4x0r they don't care what needs what. Software bloat could have been reduced a lot. [15:51] bnchs yeah [15:51] SomeH4x0r remember, we had much less RAM, much smaller HDDs and much lower bandwidth in the past [15:52] SomeH4x0r and less powerful CPUs [15:52] SomeH4x0r the "progress" is a lie imho, most people don't need it [15:52] bnchs i'm pretty sure theres a better xorg implementation [15:52] TR News ICBM moving towards making things even more proprietary... with NVIDIA of course. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/nvidia_gpu_data/ [15:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/nvidia_gpu_data/ [15:52] TR Bot Nvidia: How to connect GPUs direct to SSDs for a speed boost The Register [15:54] TR News Microsoft constantly attacks or tries to control computer languages that it does not control and aren't limited to the monopoly https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/types_in_javascript/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/java-schism-to-wrest-control/ [15:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/types_in_javascript/ [15:54] TR Bot Type syntax proposed for JavaScript The Register [15:54] bnchs how to connect gpus directly to ssds [15:54] TR Bot Historys Lesson: Microsoft Now Does to GNU/Linux What It Did to Java (Creating Schism to Wrest Control) | Techrights [15:54] bnchs because WHY NOT [15:54] SomeH4x0r the devilopers deprecate stuff all the time, they don't care about a few-years-old software no longer building [15:55] TR News So much surveillance packed into today's cars that they cannot even finish them https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/ford_chip_explorers/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/ [15:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/ford_chip_explorers/ [15:55] TR Bot Ford to sell unfinished Explorers as chip shortage bites The Register [15:55] TR Bot Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights [15:56] TR News LOL. "Web 3.0 Game". How do I know it's not a "Web 30.0 Game"? https://dailyhodl.com/2022/03/14/delysium-the-worlds-first-playable-aaa-mmo-web-3-0-game-closed-4-million-in-its-first-round-of-private-sale/ [15:56] TR Bot Delysium, the Worlds First Playable AAA MMO Web 3.0 Game, Closed $4 Million in Its First Round of Private Sale - The Daily Hodl [15:56] bnchs web 3.0 game [15:57] SomeH4x0r wtf? [15:58] bnchs its a garbage "metaverse" game [15:58] TR News By undermining the security of everything the US has weaponised all of technology and other countries can take advantage https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254856.shtml [15:58] TR Bot Exclusive: China captures powerful US NSA cyberspy tool - Global Times [15:58] schestowitz-TR bnchs: let;s define one buzzword [15:58] schestowitz-TR using anorher [15:58] schestowitz-TR what is web 3.0? [15:58] schestowitz-TR it's metaverse? [15:58] schestowitz-TR what is metaverse? [15:58] bnchs web 3.0 is a joke [15:59] schestowitz-TR see why tech "jobs" suck... [15:59] schestowitz-TR MinceR said the same this past week [15:59] bnchs web 3.0 should be defined as the age where web got bloated [15:59] schestowitz-TR they expect you to memorise BS like clown [15:59] schestowitz-TR and not just memorise it but worship it [15:59] bnchs and web 4.0 should be "metaverse" [15:59] schestowitz-TR it became like a religion [15:59] schestowitz-TR without the deity and that "blasphemous" vocabulary [15:59] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22031037 [15:59] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/n01stwk057m81.jpg created on 2022-03-10 13:47:56.313629 ● Mar 19 [16:00] schestowitz-TR no job for you until you rewrite your skills using meaningless buzzwords [16:00] schestowitz-TR there's also Industry 4.0 [16:00] schestowitz-TR and 4th industrial revolution [16:00] schestowitz-TR hilarity ensues [16:00] bnchs yes [16:00] bnchs we should also turn it into a integer [16:00] bnchs like web 3 [16:01] bnchs because the .0 never gets modified [16:01] MinceR or you could avoid meaningless buzzwords [16:02] schestowitz-TR we should [16:02] schestowitz-TR but that is not enough [16:02] schestowitz-TR we need to explain to people [16:02] schestowitz-TR that these are buzzwords [16:02] schestowitz-TR at the EPO they started blasting the buzzwords [16:03] schestowitz-TR and that, in turn, can discourage repetition of them [16:03] bnchs "metaverse" should be defined as modifiable sandbox multiplayer games [16:03] schestowitz-TR until the buzzwords become self-satirising [16:03] bnchs you could say minecraft or minetest is "metaverse" [16:04] schestowitz https://www.apnnews.com/bytexl-adds-education-and-tech-visionaries-to-its-newly-formed-advisory-board/ [16:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: apnnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.apnnews.com/bytexl-adds-education-and-tech-visionaries-to-its-newly-formed-advisory-board/ [16:04] TR Bot byteXL Adds Education and Tech Visionaries to its newly formed Advisory Board | APN News [16:04] schestowitz "He has vast experience of training on Unix, C, C++, OOP, Web technologies, Python and Python based tools for between 10 to 25 years" [16:04] schestowitz Just seen this [16:04] schestowitz these are real skills [16:04] schestowitz the above [16:04] schestowitz now we have buzzword salads [16:04] bnchs python and python based tools [16:04] bnchs OOP [16:04] bnchs and fucking UNIX [16:04] schestowitz at the LF they put in charge people with NO technical background [16:04] schestowitz for something called "Linux" [16:04] bnchs which part of UNIX are they talking [16:04] schestowitz doesn't matter [16:05] schestowitz GNU, UNIX [16:05] schestowitz the programs have universal names [16:05] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:05] schestowitz even BSD [16:05] schestowitz if you can do GNU and bash you can do BSD [16:05] MinceR i thought "metaverse" was VRML faecesbook [16:05] bnchs yes [16:05] schestowitz a few changes here and there, like doas [16:05] bnchs MinceR: they call roblox "metaverse" [16:05] schestowitz I think our campaigning against buzzwords is mworking [16:05] MinceR :> [16:05] bnchs even though its literally a multiplayer sandbox game with lua interpreter [16:05] schestowitz I saw inside the EPO how they mock the buzzwords [16:05] bnchs its a joke [16:06] schestowitz "HEY HI" caught on [16:06] schestowitz partly inspired by MinceR [16:06] *rianne_ (~rianne@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:06] schestowitz with "oh u!" [16:07] schestowitz if we popuilariuse the ridiculing term, it will harm them [16:07] schestowitz like social CONTROL media [16:08] bnchs metaverse [16:08] TR News "An overview of some of the most popular open-source tools for threat intelligence and threat hunting" https://www.welivesecurity.com/2022/03/14/first-look-threat-intelligence-threat-hunting-tools/ [16:08] TR Bot first look at threat intelligence and threat hunting tools | WeLiveSecurity [16:08] bnchs whats the metaverse term exactly [16:09] bnchs "The metaverse can be defined as a simulated digital environment that uses augmented reality (AR), virtual reality (VR), and blockchain, along with concepts from social media, to create spaces for rich user interaction mimicking the real world." [16:09] bnchs FACEBOOK HAS NO "BLOCKCHAIN" [16:09] schestowitz-TR haha, distributed database [16:09] schestowitz-TR the amaaazing database [16:09] bnchs its not distributed its centralized [16:10] bnchs in facebook's metaverse [16:10] schestowitz-TR btw,, that hype wave is yearsd hehind already [16:10] schestowitz-TR it peaked around 2018 or 19 [16:10] schestowitz-TR not that term is barely used anymore [16:11] MinceR distributed between 2 servers owned by fuckerberg [16:11] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:12] bnchs mark fuckerbitch [16:12] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.17 [16:13] bnchs most of the "metaverse" examples don't even follow some of the points a "metaverse" must have [16:13] bnchs 1) AR 2) VR 3) "Blockchain" [16:13] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162737 [16:13] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:13] bnchs and 4) social control media [16:13] TR News Ads disguised as articles? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162737#comment-33110 [16:13] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:14] TR News Web3 OMG OMG OMG! Web3 OMG OMG OMG! Web3 OMG OMG OMG! https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/web3-triple-a-game-delysium-closes-4-million-in-first-private-round [16:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: cointelegraph.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/web3-triple-a-game-delysium-closes-4-million-in-first-private-round [16:14] TR Bot Web3 triple-A game Delysium closes 4 million in first private round [16:14] TR News Aral Balkan: Web3 is Bullshit Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/29/web3-is-bullshit/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/29/web3-is-bullshit/ [16:15] TR Bot Aral Balkan: Web3 is Bullshit | Techrights [16:15] bnchs web 3 fr fr [16:15] bnchs no cap [16:15] bnchs hanging out with my homies in the web 3 metaverse fr [16:15] bnchs fr fr nocap [16:15] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:16] TR News Brave is not privacy but a belief system https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/brave_bounce_tracking/ [16:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/brave_bounce_tracking/ [16:16] TR Bot Brave browser to tackle 'bounce tracking' The Register [16:16] TR News Maybe bribe microbel some more for AMD spam https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/amds_ryzen_threadripper/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ [16:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/amds_ryzen_threadripper/ [16:16] TR Bot AMD announces more Threadripper Pro processors The Register [16:16] TR Bot When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights [16:17] TR News Proprietary software is the world software out there. Microsoft is best at making it suck. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/windows_reset_fix_onedrive/ [16:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/windows_reset_fix_onedrive/ [16:17] TR Bot Microsoft fixes OneDrive file reset bug on Windows The Register [16:19] bnchs onedrive file reset bug [16:19] bnchs people still trust microsoft's computers to store their data [16:19] TR News How to make Windows users even more brainwashed and dumber https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/file_explorer_ad/ Windows is a "Burning Platform"(TM) http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/ [16:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/file_explorer_ad/ [16:19] TR Bot Windows Insiders spot ads in File Explorer The Register [16:20] TR Bot Microsoft Delighted by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights [16:20] bnchs windows users still defend ads like a cuck [16:21] TR News TechNewsWorld posting SPAM for Gulag, whose 'clown' bubble is failing so badly that there are layoffs, just like at Microsoft Azure https://www.technewsworld.com/story/google-cloud-seeks-to-cure-retailers-search-woes-help-compete-with-amazon-87219.html [16:21] TR Bot Cloud Seeks To Cure Retailers' Search Woes, Help Compete With Amazon | TechNewsWorld [16:21] bnchs google "clown" cure what? [16:22] TR News Wait till they discover the price of gas https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sunderland-gas-explosion-firefighters-praised-23131195 https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/firefighters-put-grenfell-tower-learning-to-the-test-on-exercise-3605540 [16:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: sunderlandecho.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/firefighters-put-grenfell-tower-learning-to-the-test-on-exercise-3605540 [16:22] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sunderland-gas-explosion-firefighters-praised-23131195 ) [16:22] TR Bot Firefighters put Grenfell Tower learning to the test on exercise at Sunderland's Amble Tower | Sunderland Echo [16:22] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ghnmy6tbgpx6k.irc) has joined #techrights [16:22] DaemonFC Okay, new Trash Can. [16:22] DaemonFC Let's see if this one is as much of a disaster as the last one. [16:23] DaemonFC They said they'd make a note for the warehouse to flash this one to the latest firmware before it got sent out. [16:23] TR News Nature https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/leopard-seal-hunting-gentoo-penguin-also-snags-first-place-in-world-nature-photography-awards-180979715/ [16:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: smithsonianmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/leopard-seal-hunting-gentoo-penguin-also-snags-first-place-in-world-nature-photography-awards-180979715/ [16:23] TR Bot A Penguin Faces Death by Leopard Seal in Jaw-Dropping Grand Prize Image | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine [16:23] TR News China: No COVID-19 here. THIS IS JUST A DRILL!! https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/shenzhen_lockdown/ [16:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/shenzhen_lockdown/ [16:23] TR Bot Shenzhen, Chinas top tech city, locks down for a week The Register [16:25] TR News Millions of Americans live in tents and inside cars. But the money goes to Pentagon espionage giants like Microsoft (bailing the company out at taxpayers' expense) and SPACE programmes! https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/nasa_2022_buget/ [16:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/nasa_2022_buget/ [16:25] TR Bot NASA awaits approval of its $24bn 2022 budget The Register [16:26] *Despatche has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:27] TR News Far more coverage about local privilege escalation in Linux than "remote-code-exec" in Microsoft (yes, remote; you don't need a user account) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/microsoft_patch_tuesday/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/a-media-of-masturbating-monkeys/ [16:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/microsoft_patch_tuesday/ [16:27] TR Bot Microsoft patches 71 security vulnerabilities, 3 critical The Register [16:27] TR Bot This is the Medias Equivalent of What Linus Torvalds Called Masturbating Monkeys | Techrights [16:27] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [16:28] TR News "based on the Linux kernel and open-source projects such as Switchdev" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/dent_os_2/ [16:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/dent_os_2/ [16:28] TR Bot Dent OS 2.0 targets small and mid-size firms The Register [16:29] TR News Uber kills people https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/in_brief_ai/ [16:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/in_brief_ai/ [16:29] TR Bot Driver in Uber's self-driving car death goes on trial The Register [16:30] TR News Uber: we mow down pedestrian like some terrorists... we then blame "HEY HI".... "lol, real sorry. ok, lads, back to work..." [16:30] bnchs uber self-driving car is actually driven by a GTA player [16:30] schestowitz-TR an angry one [16:30] schestowitz-TR like their ceo [16:30] bnchs "dont worry its just a game" [16:31] TR News It probably has no Russian customers or barely any (but this is a PR stunt) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/mongodb_terminates_russian_saas/ [16:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/mongodb_terminates_russian_saas/ [16:31] TR Bot MongoDB to terminate Russian SaaS accounts The Register [16:32] bnchs nobody used mongoDB saas [16:32] TR News Clown computing in a nutshell: "MongoDB is terminating Russian accounts. Makes you wonder how your IT may look like if other IaaS, PaaS and SaaS providers will decide to shut you down. What if AWS decided to shut down your account? How business critical is your reliance on the cloud?" https://nitter.eu/BrodtOleg/status/1502587827783098371 [16:32] TR Bot Oleg Brodt (@BrodtOleg): "MongoDB is terminating Russian accounts. Makes you wonder how your IT may look like if other IaaS, PaaS and SaaS providers will decide to shut you down. What if AWS decided to shut down your account? How business critical is your reliance on the cloud?" | nitter [16:33] bnchs clown is unreliable [16:33] TR News ICBM pretends to still be relevant. I never saw anyone using these. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/ibm_cloudant_couchdb/ [16:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/ibm_cloudant_couchdb/ [16:33] TR Bot IBM Cloudant ends backing of FoundationDB version of CouchDB The Register [16:33] bnchs theres people who unironically say "just buy a thin client and use the cloud they have powerful servers" [16:34] TR News Why does Agam Shah help Microsoft spread spam? He should know better. Criminals painting themselves as "Research" isn't cool. [16:35] TR News Is this webspam or SPAM obligatory? Paid for? https://www.wepc.com/news/onexplayer-mini-vs-steam-deck/ [16:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: wepc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.wepc.com/news/onexplayer-mini-vs-steam-deck/ [16:35] TR Bot Mini VS Steam Deck: Which one you should buy? | WePC [16:35] TR News Obviously webspam https://www.wepc.com/news/onexplayer-mini-vs-steam-deck/ [16:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: wepc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.wepc.com/news/onexplayer-mini-vs-steam-deck/ [16:35] *prompted (~a3ac29e4@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:35] TR News Ads disguised as "reports" or "articles" have ruins the Web, injured the Internet https://itwire.com/freelancer-sp-720/datacom-becomes-a-zscaler-msp.html #webspam [16:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/freelancer-sp-720/datacom-becomes-a-zscaler-msp.html [16:35] TR Bot - Datacom becomes a Zscaler MSP [16:36] schestowitz-TR hi, prompted [16:36] *zedomatic (~zedomatic@ufy8xbd6jx82q.irc) has joined #techrights [16:36] bnchs hi zedomatix [16:36] *zedomatic has quit (connection closed) [16:36] prompted hey [16:36] TR News When you over-speculate about future success https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/arm_job_cuts/ [16:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/arm_job_cuts/ [16:36] TR Bot Arm to lay off up to 15% of staff about 1,000 people The Register [16:36] MinceR hay [16:38] TR News Only fools use clown computing. The biggest of fools choose Microsoft for that. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/azure_autowarp_flaw/ see http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/ [16:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/azure_autowarp_flaw/ [16:38] TR Bot Microsoft Azure flaw allowed unauthorized account access The Register [16:38] TR Bot Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights [16:39] bnchs you cant audit your "clown"'s security [16:39] schestowitz-TR lol [16:39] schestowitz-TR "trust us" [16:39] schestowitz-TR I had this talk 2 nights ago [16:39] bnchs for all you know they could be hosting in a shitty windows 98 computer in a basement [16:39] schestowitz-TR too many foolks out there [16:39] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, AT&T is being sued (class action) over their "5GE" thing. [16:39] bnchs connected directly to WAN [16:39] schestowitz-TR they conflate compliance with "we can blame x" [16:39] schestowitz-TR but of course you can never blame them [16:39] schestowitz-TR they don't even let you see logs [16:40] schestowitz case of point: http://techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/ [16:40] TR Bot GitHub is Microsofts Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonicals Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly Its Ubuntus Fault? | Techrights [16:40] schestowitz-TR clown is a bubble [16:40] schestowitz-TR it is a US funded effort to bring back the mainframea [16:40] bnchs yes [16:40] schestowitz-TR and compel companies to abandon their servers [16:40] bnchs they actually encourage users [16:40] schestowitz-TR by making them very expensive in effoicial; channels [16:40] bnchs to buy weak tablets or thin clients [16:41] schestowitz-TR then saying [16:41] schestowitz-TR come to papa, it's cheaper [16:41] bnchs and just connect them to the "clown" [16:41] kingoffrance notj ust servers, and destroy the "personal computer" [16:41] schestowitz-TR then they do the spying and fee hikes [16:41] schestowitz-TR anmd cut off "RUSHANS" [16:41] bnchs they can cut off people from accessing their data [16:41] schestowitz-TR 'their' [16:41] bnchs their + the clown's [16:42] schestowitz-TR apple statrted assuming it needs to scan all files, too [16:42] schestowitz-TR because only pedophiles would buy apple [16:42] bnchs also microsoft's onedrive ads in file manager [16:42] bnchs they NAG you to use onedrive [16:42] bnchs at startup [16:43] TR News Ironic that MICROSOFT would say that. It infiltrates orgs and puts moles in them, people who treat Microsoft as a religion and reject actual facts. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/microsoft_work_trends_index/ [16:43] TR Bot Microsoft: Half of bosses say leadership 'out of touch' The Register [16:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/microsoft_work_trends_index/ [16:43] bnchs microsoft is a joke nowadays [16:43] TR News Microsoft is not a tech company but organised crime with some products (things it bought) on the side. It does not need to actually compete, owing to the crime. http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [16:44] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [16:44] bnchs corporate work environment gets parodied everytime [16:44] bnchs amazon's patent for the WAGIE CAGIE [16:44] bnchs get in the case, wagie [16:44] TR News When you outsource your shop https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ftc_cafepress_settlement/ [16:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ftc_cafepress_settlement/ [16:44] TR Bot CafePress fined for covering up customer info leak The Register [16:46] TR News No, DST itself was the cause of many bugs and troubles. Throwing it out the windows will, in due course, fix many issues and woes. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/us_senate_dst_forever/ [16:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/us_senate_dst_forever/ [16:46] TR Bot US Senate agrees on permanent daylight saving time The Register [16:46] bnchs https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazon/amazon-has-patented-a-system-that-would-put-workers-in-a-cage-on-top-of-a-robot/ [16:46] MinceR sounds like a self-driving car [16:46] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [16:46] bnchs get in the fucking cage BITCH [16:47] *activelow (~activelow@zmqsxh3bwz8xn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:47] TR News Historically it was Microsoft struggling with DST. Its software is faaaaaarrrrr too shoddy. It's a lot more expensive than the clergy/moles that implant it inside organisations want you to believe.... [16:48] bnchs yeah it us [16:48] schestowitz-TR maybe even chinese sweatshop will have greater freedom than amazon serfs [16:48] MinceR https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/169/432/612.jpg [16:48] bnchs its supposed to be for entering "robot-only" areas [16:48] schestowitz-TR like people who cannot take toilet breaks [16:48] schestowitz-TR what next? adult diapers? [16:48] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:49] bnchs in the future [16:49] bnchs they're gonna buy a prison [16:49] bnchs and place the workers there [16:50] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [16:50] XRevan86 MinceR: I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as a robot, is in fact, a huge humanoid cyborg, or as I've recently taken to calling it, a fever dream on legs. [16:50] TR News 2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts: Edited: March 19th 2022 (replacing older strict list) https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/03/19/333/ [16:50] MinceR or just turn earth into a prison [16:50] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@mc34kkn3mxeeu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:50] MinceR XRevan86: lol [16:50] schestowitz-TR MinceR: careful what you wish for.. [16:51] schestowitz-TR many apartments are indistinguishable from prisons\ [16:51] schestowitz-TR and many animals live in such apartments or in zoos [16:52] schestowitz-TR aliens pass by earth [16:52] schestowitz-TR and say, [16:52] bnchs they already have these pods in cali [16:52] bnchs for people who cant afford an apartment let alone a house [16:52] schestowitz-TR "wtf is this? whose prison is this planet? looks like a penitentiary." [16:52] bnchs theres absolutely no privacy there [16:52] bnchs have fun watching the thing you wanna watch [16:52] schestowitz-TR japan buried people in stacks [16:53] schestowitz-TR to save ground space [16:57] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I mentioned Frost for Facebook on WGN's post about "Facebook Protect", when I was going down a list of reasons not to use Samsung or any of Facebook's apps. [16:58] DaemonFC I included: "I don't like Facebook and they're surely not going to go crawling through my phone, contacts, all of my device sensors, listening to my microphone whenever they want, etc. Most people are fools and they allow all of this spying and more. The average person with an iPhone or Galaxy Phone or using Facebook's apps is worth about $3-4 to Facebook, per year, and they spy on them that much to get it." [16:58] TR News What the new PowerVR driver means for mobile Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162738 [16:59] schestowitz-TR ok Protec[12:25] "Unfortunately, the email that Facebook sent from the address security@facebookmail.com resembled a rather common form of spam" https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/18/22984802/facebook-protect-lock-out-twitter [16:59] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: a lot f today's tech is malware [16:59] schestowitz-TR there ARE alternatives [16:59] schestowitz-TR they are not always widely used ● Mar 19 [17:00] schestowitz-TR afaik you are still into mobile phones [17:00] schestowitz-TR this past week our kettle died [17:00] schestowitz-TR after just one year [17:00] schestowitz-TR we won't even buy a new one [17:00] schestowitz-TR today's appliances are so cheaply made [17:00] schestowitz-TR even the "Expensive" ones [17:00] schestowitz-TR I don't want to buy kettles every 12 months [17:00] schestowitz-TR we'll do it the old way [17:00] schestowitz-TR so the issue isn't limited to "high" tech [17:00] schestowitz-TR but appliance also [17:01] schestowitz-TR they do not last long [17:01] schestowitz-TR cheap components [17:01] schestowitz-TR no RCA age [17:01] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternative to Apple Bonjour Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162739 [17:01] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:02] TR News Wow, Such a high proportion of iTWire "articles" can be described as webspam. I never saw it that bad... [17:02] DaemonFC today's appliances are so cheaply made [17:03] DaemonFC Well, we got a $10 electric kettle off Amazon. [17:03] DaemonFC 1.5 years later it still works fine. [17:03] DaemonFC I think they're like $12 now. [17:03] *bnchs (~bnchs@qawdzg548a46q.irc) has joined #techrights [17:03] DaemonFC no RCA age [17:03] TR News Sam Varghese is probably the one one there who actually covers issues, and he too rarely does it anymore https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/technology-regulation/open-slather-as-abc-leaks-data-to-google,-facebook,-tealium-et-al.html [17:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/technology-regulation/open-slather-as-abc-leaks-data-to-google,-facebook,-tealium-et-al.html [17:03] DaemonFC Dad worked for their RCA TV plant in Marion for almost 30 years. [17:04] bnchs TVs are full of these marketing bullshit [17:04] DaemonFC There are still TVs out there, same model as the 1985 set we had in our family room, that still work. [17:04] bnchs like LG ThinQ AI [17:04] bnchs what does that mean? nobody knows [17:04] bnchs but it sounds cool I MUST BUY [17:04] DaemonFC I went to a Salvation Army thrift store about a year ago and there was one there that still worked. [17:04] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, They do break down though, and not many people still know how to fix them. [17:05] DaemonFC Everyone in mom's family had my dad fix their set when they had problems out of it. [17:05] TR News With proprietary software there is never evidence because it is secret and thus, by default, untrustworthy. Germany should be banning all software software, no matter its nationality. https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/kaspersky-ceo-says-no-evidence-for-german-warning-about-his-firm.html [17:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/kaspersky-ceo-says-no-evidence-for-german-warning-about-his-firm.html [17:05] DaemonFC He'd unplug it and take the backing out and mess around with it for a while and turn it on, and it worked fine again for years before there was another issue with it. [17:06] DaemonFC He knew what all of the trouble spots were with those models because he worked in the design department. [17:06] DaemonFC There's no such thing as an appliance that goes out without any problems. [17:06] DaemonFC Even back then, and even with union labor and parts that were not cut rate. [17:07] DaemonFC But you could repair them and keep going. Some TV repair shop was almost always nearby. [17:07] TR News They wrongly assume that each attack means a breach; this is the Microsoft mindset because its software is unsafe by design. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/in_brief_security/ [17:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/in_brief_security/ [17:08] DaemonFC You can, of course, repair a flat screen TV, but by the time it konks out, it usually costs more to repair it than it would to just buy a new TV set that has better specifications anyway. [17:08] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [17:09] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@yaf5revuadim4.irc) has joined #techrights [17:09] TR News Gulag reminds clown computing clowns that their clownish behaviour is irrational and irresponsible. They're in NO CONTROL over the budget. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/google_introduces_new_cloud_infrastructure/ [17:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/google_introduces_new_cloud_infrastructure/ [17:09] DaemonFC My grandmother's console set finally died in like 2007 or something and she got one of the last plasma sets that they had on the shelves (at Sears of all places). [17:09] DaemonFC Nobody my mom has been with knows what to look for in a TV when they go to buy one. [17:09] DaemonFC Gonad bought a reverse projection TV with no internal HD tuner. [17:10] DaemonFC Grandma got a plasma set. (HD with a tuner at least, but none of them were energy star rated because the technology was not efficient.) [17:11] DaemonFC John's step-dad had a reverse projection set he was still buying bulbs for. [17:11] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:11] DaemonFC There's a bulb in there, they cost a lot of money (especially now). [17:11] TR News Microsoft TCO in action: "The Microsoft Exchange server was out of action and two days' worth of emails were lost, as detailed by the company blog at the time." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/brit_solicitor_fined_for_failing/ http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ [17:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/brit_solicitor_fined_for_failing/ [17:11] DaemonFC They get really hot, waste a lot of power, and they usually don't just burn out. [17:11] DaemonFC They get dimmer and dimmer until you can barely see the picture. [17:12] TR News The integrity of the Internet is under attack https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/nominet_suspends_russian_registrars/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/ [17:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/nominet_suspends_russian_registrars/ [17:14] TR News "vulnerability in its processors that can be exploited by malware to steal data from memory that should otherwise be off limits." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/spectre_bti_intel_amd_arm/ [17:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/spectre_bti_intel_amd_arm/ [17:14] bnchs lol x86 shit [17:14] TR News " Linux-based real time operating system. Edge Computer (752-9400/752-9401) comes with a Debian Linux operating system, quad-core Atom processor, 64 GB flash memory and 4 GB or 8 GB of RAM." https://www.controlglobal.com/articles/2022/15-new-controllers-that-add-digital-bells-and-whistles/ [17:21] TR News Russia hasn't yet enabled its splinternet amid Ukraine war - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/russia_splinternet_tor_rumours/ [17:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/russia_splinternet_tor_rumours/ [17:21] TR News Snap vs. AppImage vs. Flatpak: What Is the Difference and Which Is Best for You? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162740 [17:21] DaemonFC AMD this time, which people figured were at least better than Intel. [17:21] DaemonFC Now there's dozens more SPECTRE-like vulnerabilities, but at least mjg59_ can praise Microsoft Pluton. [17:22] DaemonFC Which.....actually doesn't protect against any of the real threats. It's a smoke screen. Lets them pretend there's security. [17:22] DaemonFC They like marketing blurbs and toggle switches in Windows. [17:22] DaemonFC But nothing gets better, in fact. [17:23] TR News As if money can solve all issues... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/chip_startups_funding/ just cveating more pollution and waste [17:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/chip_startups_funding/ [17:23] DaemonFC There is actually no real improvement in the percentage of malware-compromised Windows devices since around Windows 7 or so. [17:24] DaemonFC They shuffled things around in XP SP2, and that broke a lot of actual software you wanted to run, stopped some malware as a side effect. [17:24] DaemonFC When it comes to compatibility vs. making gains against malware, Microsoft will choose compatibility. [17:24] DaemonFC So it turns into a platform that's really compatible with all kinds of malware. [17:25] TR News "There are like, five ATM-ish kiosks inside the bank. I don't know what they're all for. I think the way people pay bills and send money is very different here but I'm still learning." Banks killing off their own workers now. For PROFIT. gemini://sixohthree.com/log/banking.gmi [17:25] DaemonFC The more they add to it, the more stuff is there, full of bugs, for malware to use, that they won't get rid of. [17:25] TR News "I needed the teller (cashier?) to deposit some foreign currency into my account. The exchange rates were displayed right there on a big screen behind him. There was a chip reader at the counter, and I put in my card and PIN to authenticate myself. No reading off my account number through the plexiglass." gemini://sixohthree.com/log/banking.gmi [17:25] DaemonFC I'm not very surprised that there's still an embedded OS/2 market. [17:25] DaemonFC Very few malware developers would have access to such a system or knowledge of how to build programs for it. [17:26] DaemonFC Windows is all over the place. [17:27] TR News Sadly, when it comes to FB, I happen to be on the same side as Vladimir Putin. Look what you have done, Mark Zuckerberg! https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/russia_meta/ [17:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/russia_meta/ [17:27] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, These T-Mobile Home Internet pods are just awful. They have a new model out that's apparently less flaky. [17:27] schestowitz-TR seems so [17:28] DaemonFC But the woman said they have a shortage and those only go to new customers. [17:28] schestowitz-TR you go off and on line a lot [17:28] schestowitz-TR we have many spares here [17:28] DaemonFC Some of that is laptop stuff. Closing the lid. [17:28] schestowitz-TR usually older versions [17:28] schestowitz-TR but those would still work [17:28] DaemonFC But every once in a while the modem just froze up. [17:28] DaemonFC We'll see if this one does. [17:29] TR News "The consortium formed by Dyne.org, RIDDLE&CODE and InfoCert has entered the second phase of the European Blockchain Services Infrastructure (EBSI) project" https://www.streetinsider.com/Business+Wire/ZENBRIDGE%2C+Developed+by+Dyne.org%2C+RIDDLE%26amp%3BCODE+and+InfoCert%2C+Selected+for+Phase+2+of+the+European+Blockchain+Pre-Commercial+Procurement/19787877.html [17:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: streetinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.streetinsider.com/Business+Wire/ZENBRIDGE%2C+Developed+by+Dyne.org%2C+RIDDLE%26amp%3BCODE+and+InfoCert%2C+Selected+for+Phase+2+of+the+European+Blockchain+Pre-Commercial+Procurement/19787877.html [17:31] *inky_ (~inky@141.136.91.177) has joined #techrights [17:31] TR News Misses the point that Microsoft was shipping this malware https://www.csoonline.com/article/3654298/developer-sabotages-own-npm-module-prompting-open-source-supply-chain-security-questions.html [17:33] TR News Fake security, proprietary junk, propped up by the frauds from Gartner https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/fortinet_security_asics/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group [17:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/fortinet_security_asics/ [17:35] TR News UK outsourcing with clownwashing. This shows a misguided approach, which likely favours foreign companies that actively engage in political and industrial espionage. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/5bn_uk_g_cloud_deals/ [17:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/5bn_uk_g_cloud_deals/ [17:36] TR News Always blaming someone else... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/who_me/ [17:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/who_me/ [17:37] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/exotic_lily_iab_google/ [17:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/exotic_lily_iab_google/ [17:39] TR News "suspected of lifting trade secrets or poaching talent from China-owned firms." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/taiwan_china_tech_worker_raids/ [17:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/taiwan_china_tech_worker_raids/ [17:40] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/thrxfr/depressed_bloated_penguin/ [17:41] TR News Dataset of first appearances of the scholarly bibliographic references on Wikipedia articles https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01190-z [17:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: nature.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01190-z [17:42] TR News thales = mass surveillance https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide-transport/fare-collection-management/magazine/dream-ticket [17:44] TR News This is webspam or SPAM on the Web. It's disguised as "journalism". The state of the WWW is truly appalling. https://www.scotsman.com/business/edinburgh-healthcare-software-firm-craneware-fighting-fit-as-revenues-double-3609624 [17:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: scotsman.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.scotsman.com/business/edinburgh-healthcare-software-firm-craneware-fighting-fit-as-revenues-double-3609624 [17:44] TR News Commercial in the form of 'article' https://www.theceomagazine.com/executive-interviews/it-electronics/charles-lee-2/ [17:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: theceomagazine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theceomagazine.com/executive-interviews/it-electronics/charles-lee-2/ [17:44] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The lawyers know that AT&T will give up and settle on the 5GE lawsuit. For far less than the money they made convincing people their LTE network was "the first 5G coverage in the nation". [17:45] DaemonFC People don't get marketing. Mandy thought his sister's AT&T phones had "5GE" and I said, "No, there is no such thing. They can make the SIM card tell your phone it's whatever they want it to say.". [17:45] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:46] schestowitz-TR I have G9.8 [17:46] schestowitz-TR so do you, I guess [17:46] schestowitz 9.8 m/s2 on earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_battery [17:46] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_gravity [17:47] immibis gravity batteries are kinda fun but they don't store enough energy for anything more than a small LED light [17:48] DaemonFC "After much controversy, in 2019, an AT&T executive came out to clarify that the reason behind labeling its 4G LTE service as 5GE is to let the customer know that they are in an enhanced experience market or area and when 5G software or 5G devices show up, there will be a network upgrade to enable customers to move to 5G. [17:48] DaemonFC Since then, AT&T stopped its 5GE advertisements to avoid more confusion." [17:48] DaemonFC They're in an "enhanced marketing area". LOL [17:48] DaemonFC MARISOL [17:48] immibis 9.8 J/kg/m, maybe at a stretch you have a 20kg weight and a height of 5m, that stores almost a kilojoule [17:49] immibis that is like 10 seconds of average human pedalling. It's not nothing, but it's also not a lot [17:49] DaemonFC "We don't even need to lie. You people are so stupid we can tell you what we're doing and you'll still pay us!" [17:49] DaemonFC AT&T....also Microsoft. [17:49] immibis also the people who told DaemonFC that black people were bad [17:51] DaemonFC Nobody had to tell me anything. [17:51] DaemonFC You just observe in silence. [17:51] prompted you in silence? [17:51] DaemonFC The moment where she became upset and attacked a McDonalds worker with a plexiglass COVID sneeze guard. [17:51] DaemonFC For telling her to wear a mask. [17:52] DaemonFC Then she ran out the door and down the street. [17:52] DaemonFC I mean, that's small. [17:52] DaemonFC There's a million others just like that. [17:52] prompted must be a trump supporter [17:52] DaemonFC I can't remember how many things I've seen in just the last 5 years that no civilized person would do. [17:53] immibis fine, the people who told DaemonFC that it's not the fault of the last generation of white people, that black people were bad [17:53] immibis last and current* [17:53] DaemonFC You're over there just trying to eat a cheeseburger and "YOU CAN'T TELL ME TO WEAR A MASK BISCH! I FUCKIN KILL YOU!!!! SMACK SMACK SMACK!!!!" [17:53] DaemonFC Anyway, bbiab. [17:54] immibis that stuff was caused by russian covid propaganda [17:54] prompted i agree that eating a burger with a mask is a very difficult task ● Mar 19 [18:05] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:05] *inky_ (~inky@141.136.91.177) has joined #techrights [18:07] TR News Customize GNOME Desktop in Ubuntu with a Clean Look Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162741 [18:10] TR News Linux Foundation badmouthing what it claims to be for. Than again, consider who runs it. The very enemies of its mission. https://thenewstack.io/can-open-source-sustain-itself-without-losing-its-soul/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/ [18:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/can-open-source-sustain-itself-without-losing-its-soul/ [18:11] TR News They are not free. These are proprietary traps. https://www.musicradar.com/news/6-free-software-tools-for-singer-songwriters [18:12] TR News Way for Gulag to distract from the anti-black discrimination, which culminated in lawsuits https://businesspost.ng/general/google-employees-to-upgrade-tefconnect-platform/ [18:12] TR News Russia never needed them in the first place and they likely did more harm than good https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/dxc_pwc_kpmg_accenture_quit_russia/ [18:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/dxc_pwc_kpmg_accenture_quit_russia/ [18:13] TR News Deere unlawfully withholds repair tools and info, FTC told - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/deere_repair_ftc/ [18:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/deere_repair_ftc/ [18:13] TR News Proprietary software/spyware from Gulag. Use OSM instead. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/google_maps_outage/ [18:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/google_maps_outage/ [18:15] TR News Walton Family Foundation. Ewwww... so they kill millions, then give "$685,330 grant" https://news.uark.edu/articles/59355/new-program-will-identify-healthcare-challenges-and-design-solutions [18:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: uark.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.uark.edu/articles/59355/new-program-will-identify-healthcare-challenges-and-design-solutions [18:16] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: ^ [18:16] schestowitz-TR they are not oligarchs [18:16] schestowitz-TR they are... filasssrofist [18:17] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22031268 [18:17] MinceR not oligarchs but kleptocrats? [18:17] TR News Openwashing https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220314005848/en/Redis-Delivers-RedisJSON-2.0-a-Fast-Flexible-Document-Database-to-Create-Dynamic-Digital-Experiences [18:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: businesswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220314005848/en/Redis-Delivers-RedisJSON-2.0-a-Fast-Flexible-Document-Database-to-Create-Dynamic-Digital-Experiences [18:18] TR News SAP is not a community but a malicious proprietary software company that leaks out details of its serfs https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/sap_customer_influence_leak/ [18:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/sap_customer_influence_leak/ [18:20] TR News Microsoft kills everything it touches https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/matthew-wilson/perfect-dark-director-leaves-the-initiative/?PageSpeed=noscript [18:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: kitguru.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/matthew-wilson/perfect-dark-director-leaves-the-initiative/?PageSpeed=noscript [18:22] TR News First Amendment Scholars Want to See the Media Lose These Cases - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/13/business/media/fox-news-first-amendment-sullivan.html [18:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/13/business/media/fox-news-first-amendment-sullivan.html [18:22] TR News "The official declaration this week means that Isaiah Andrews, 84, can seek damages from the State of Ohio for spending more than half his life in prison after being wrongly convicted of killing his wife." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/isaiah-andrews-released-ohio.html [18:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/isaiah-andrews-released-ohio.html [18:25] TR News Proprietary software https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/riverbed_vulnerabilities/ [18:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/riverbed_vulnerabilities/ [18:32] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@jmiw8v4wiy3h4.irc) has joined #techrights [18:35] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:43] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:44] *inky_ (~inky@141.136.91.177) has joined #techrights [18:44] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:44] XRevan86 https://smbc-comics.com/comic/scythe It's pretty obvious this was done months in advance. [18:44] MinceR :) [18:44] TR News Asahi Linux Reaches Alpha Milestone, Brings Linux to M1 Macs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162724#comment-33111 [18:45] *inky_ (~inky@141.136.91.177) has joined #techrights [18:46] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162742 [18:46] prompted macs are going hypersonic [18:47] schestowitz-TR towards the wall [18:47] schestowitz-TR MinceR: right? [18:47] MinceR i guess [18:47] MinceR did someone put a jet engine in a TrashCan Pro case or something? [18:47] schestowitz-TR lol [18:50] TR News Privacy/surveillance slant, too https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/smartphone_lidar_medical/ [18:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/smartphone_lidar_medical/ [18:51] prompted hypersonic speed is one that exceeds 5 times the speed of sound [18:51] prompted were 5 iterations away [18:51] TR News Charlatans making up new buzzword: coordicide https://thegww.com/iota-coordicide-developer-hans-moog-sees-breakthrough-on-the-way-to-decentralization/ [18:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: thegww.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thegww.com/iota-coordicide-developer-hans-moog-sees-breakthrough-on-the-way-to-decentralization/ [18:51] MinceR someone took a fashion accessory on board a hypersonic plane? [18:52] TR News Canon has no "IP"; the media uses propaganda terms https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/itc_judge_recommends_banning_ink/ [18:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/itc_judge_recommends_banning_ink/ [18:53] TR News Companies rush to break the Internet https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/cogent_cuts_off_russia/ integrity of the Internet is under attack href="http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/ [18:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/cogent_cuts_off_russia/ [18:54] schestowitz-TR prompted: Red Hat's parent company did that many decades ago [18:54] schestowitz-TR ICBM [18:54] schestowitz-TR they can do like 12 machs IIRC [18:54] schestowitz-TR even in the 1970s [18:54] schestowitz-TR final phase [18:54] prompted all with out m1 chips [18:55] schestowitz-TR without any chips almost [18:55] schestowitz-TR and no GPS [18:55] kingoffrance re: comic, scythe is a crescent/croissant moon im sure :) fertile + death, two in one :D [18:55] TR News Stable Kernels: 5.16.16, 5.15.30, 5.10.107, and 5.4.186 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162743 [18:57] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [18:58] TR News "Programmable money" sounds like crank stuff https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/18/join-us-tomorrow-for-defi-and-the-future-of-programmable-money/ [18:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: techcrunch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/18/join-us-tomorrow-for-defi-and-the-future-of-programmable-money/ [18:58] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22031257 [18:59] TR News If you refused to patch your system for over 3 months https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/linux_botnet_log4j/ [18:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/linux_botnet_log4j/ ● Mar 19 [19:00] prompted 18% [2 linux-image-5.15.30-xanmod1 2669 kB/69,8 MB 4%] 149 kB/s 7min 31s [19:00] TR News The Register has just posted SPAM for Microsoft. True Webspam. greenwashing a source of pollution. "Microsoft datacenter to heat homes in Finland"... right, and nukes (when detonated) clean up the surface for agriculture too [19:01] TR News Well, you would be far better off using Free software to achieve this https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/03/15/2403361/0/en/JumpCloud-and-BambooHR-Partner-to-Accelerate-Automate-and-Secure-Employee-Onboarding-and-Offboarding.html [19:02] prompted anyone using Drauger OS ? [19:03] TR News CLOWNFLARE: We LOSE money to BREAK the Web. To divide, exclude, ruin, make it LESS safe. "Please turn JavaScript on and reload the page." [19:03] TR News Bloat. https://www.makeuseof.com/avoid-overwhelm-project-management-software/ [19:04] prompted nukes (when detonated) clean up the surface for wildlife [19:04] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [19:04] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [19:04] TR News Surveillance creeps in. See photo. https://www.ekathimerini.com/society/1179585/five-fascinating-inventions-by-schoolchildren/ [19:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: ekathimerini.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ekathimerini.com/society/1179585/five-fascinating-inventions-by-schoolchildren/ [19:04] prompted just look at exclusion zone around chernobil [19:05] prompted thats the tech i use on my aimbot [19:05] TR News Copying ICBM with the "dinobabies" strategy https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/fujitsu_profit_warning/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Ageism [19:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/fujitsu_profit_warning/ [19:06] prompted only shoot the people in the red box i tell it [19:06] TR News Gulag is greenwashing while burning the planet, just like other corporations of its kind https://www.edie.net/news/6/Google-forges-ahead-with-plans-for-hourly-renewable-electricity-tracking/ [19:07] TR News Forbes is greenwashing the world's WORST polluters https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2022/03/16/momentum-for-amazons-climate-pledge-continues-to-snowball/ the business of lying, there's money in deceit and propaganda, not in honest reporting [19:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2022/03/16/momentum-for-amazons-climate-pledge-continues-to-snowball/ [19:07] prompted time to reboot into the new kernel [19:08] prompted wish me luck [19:08] schestowitz-TR ok [19:08] *prompted has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [19:09] TR News ZDNet has sunk to new lows. Now its advertising NFTs or scams. Boycott ZDNet. It's a Webspam site and corporation propaganda, it's not a new site. http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet [19:10] TR News Analytics India Magazine continues to promote the dangerous delusion that everything not controlled by proprietary software of Microsoft does not exist, does not count, should not matter https://analyticsindiamag.com/best-github-learning-repositories-for-developers/ [19:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: analyticsindiamag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://analyticsindiamag.com/best-github-learning-repositories-for-developers/ [19:12] TR News "Windows means awkward UI" and also means malware, expensive, bad battery life etc. https://www.theverge.com/22972334/aya-neo-next-review-vs-steam-deck-windows [19:13] TR News Amazon is an espionage entity; running these puff pieces for Bezos is harming the country https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/amazon_dc_investment/ [19:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/amazon_dc_investment/ [19:14] TR News Windows is technically worse than GNU/Linux, but Microsoft makes up for it by bribing everyone and resorting to other forms of corruption https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/amd_stutter/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [19:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/amd_stutter/ [19:15] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [19:16] TR News Stop calling everything "Hey Hi"; some companies do so only to get patents on algorithms (it's a loophole by buzzwords) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/ai_weapons_learning/ [19:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/ai_weapons_learning/ [19:17] TR News Jack Wallen does proprietary software and even Microsoft? Disappointing. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/5-cost-effective-tools-for-data-visualization/ [19:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/5-cost-effective-tools-for-data-visualization/ [19:17] TR News Gmail is not E-mail but an ATTACK on E-mail and also an assault on privacy. If you want better experience, start using REAL E-mail. https://gizmodo.com/5-ways-shortwave-supercharges-your-gmail-1848593074 [19:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/5-ways-shortwave-supercharges-your-gmail-1848593074 [19:18] *prompted (~6d466451@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [19:18] prompted it works [19:18] SomeH4x0r hello [19:18] schestowitz-TR 0/ [19:18] TR News 10 surprisingly practical Raspberry Pi projects anybody can do - PC World Australia https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/696174/10-surprisingly-practical-raspberry-pi-projects-anybody-can-do/?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=authorfeed [19:19] SomeH4x0r remove the fucking tracking shit [19:19] SomeH4x0r https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/696174/10-surprisingly-practical-raspberry-pi-projects-anybody-can-do/ [19:19] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:19] TR News 'We took it to the real worldand it worked': Rapid Zika testing platform clears hurdle with Brazil trial https://www.utoronto.ca/news/we-took-it-real-world-and-it-worked-rapid-zika-testing-platform-clears-hurdle-brazil-trial [19:19] immibis why would you not inject the wrong data SomeH4x0r ? [19:20] SomeH4x0r it is bloating the link regardless [19:20] SomeH4x0r inserting wrong data is a good idea too, perhaps for some browser extensions like AdNauseam [19:20] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [19:21] TR News This is primarily a Microsoft issue; ransomware affects Windows over 90% or over 95% of the time, depending on which companies surveys that https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/ciso_security_storm/ [19:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/ciso_security_storm/ [19:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [19:22] TR News Oppression is going digital, and not just in China https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/china_declares_new_era_of/ [19:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/china_declares_new_era_of/ [19:23] schestowitz-TR [19:19] remove the fucking tracking shit [19:23] schestowitz-TR i did actually [19:24] schestowitz-TR in Techrights daily links [19:24] schestowitz-TR but I forgot to do it in the link here [19:24] schestowitz-TR I almost always remember, so you don't see these [19:24] schestowitz-TR I realised my mitake right afterwards [19:24] schestowitz-TR but cannot edit IRC [19:24] *bnchs (~bnchs@qawdzg548a46q.irc) has joined #techrights [19:24] schestowitz-TR in this case, the tracker is very primitive [19:24] immibis did you know oppression is when you have only one identity card instead of 50? [19:25] schestowitz-TR it just says the click came from the feed [19:25] schestowitz-TR even if you toggle of JS [19:25] schestowitz-TR tthey still spy on lots of stuff with CSS and images [19:25] bnchs schestowitz-TR now heres the problem [19:25] bnchs whenever a user enters a page of techrights blog [19:25] bnchs theres a iframe of kiwi irc [19:25] schestowitz-TR immibis: you should not need identity cards much [19:26] schestowitz-TR a lot of stuff should not require a person to identify [19:26] schestowitz-TR bnchs: you, I think you told me [19:26] schestowitz-TR and they use clownflare, you said... [19:26] bnchs wait what? [19:26] bnchs well yes [19:27] TR News "It's not clear exactly right now how the malware gets onto a device" ... it's your job to FIND out. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/cyclops_asus_routers/ [19:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/cyclops_asus_routers/ [19:28] TR News Humans are making them extinct, along with all life on the planet... https://thetyee.ca/News/2022/03/16/Orcas-Scars-Tell-Story/ [19:29] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [19:29] TR News Proprietary software has nothing to do with "openness" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/openness_of_oracle_licensing/ [19:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/openness_of_oracle_licensing/ [19:30] bnchs its either free [19:30] bnchs or non free [19:31] TR News "Today's day must be noted. I experienced enlightenment in Emacs. I have been aware of everything. I had been trying Emacs several times, and had been installing it many times more. But today's attempt was groundbreaking. Everything seems to be clear, of course I know only a little." gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-03-19-Enlightenment-in-emacs.gmi [19:34] TR News Photonics takes money from enabler of child sex trafficking. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/05/luminous-ai-supercomputer-photonics/ "range of investors that includes Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates." http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ [19:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/05/luminous-ai-supercomputer-photonics/ [19:35] TR News Conflating DoS with something else https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/openssl_bug_dos/ [19:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/openssl_bug_dos/ [19:35] TR News So-called 'engagement', quantity, not quality https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/03/18/game-length-open-world/ [19:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/03/18/game-length-open-world/ [19:36] TR News Developing design tools for outer space structures - Purdue University News https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2022/Q1/developing-design-tools-for-outer-space-structures.html [19:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: purdue.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2022/Q1/developing-design-tools-for-outer-space-structures.html [19:37] TR News No, this is a gross violation of patient confidentiality. These devices are unfit for purpose, they're not secure and cannot be secured https://medcitynews.com/2022/03/enhancing-patient-care-with-mobile-clinical-communication-technologies/ [19:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: medcitynews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medcitynews.com/2022/03/enhancing-patient-care-with-mobile-clinical-communication-technologies/ [19:38] DaemonFC i agree that eating a burger with a mask is a very difficult task [19:38] DaemonFC You didn't have to wear one when you were at your table eating. [19:38] DaemonFC You just had to put one on when you were up from the table. [19:40] TR News Simon Sharwood giving a platform for hypocrites from Microsoft (come on, calling the kettle black?) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/oracle_cloud_migration_microsoft_advice/ see http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ [19:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/oracle_cloud_migration_microsoft_advice/ [19:40] TR News If "Crypto" [sic] is really worth something, why are people referring to is value in USD? https://www.pymnts.com/cryptocurrency/2022/defi-achilles-heel-on-display-vote-could-take-100m-in-crypto-from-an-investor/ [19:41] TR News Two companies that fool a bunch of insecure people into paying like 3 times more than they're supposed to for a very lousy product https://www.pymnts.com/partnerships/2022/porsche-apple-talking-about-potential-partnerships/ [19:42] TR News OpenSSF is not about security https://adtmag.com/blogs/watersworks/2022/03/openssf-membership-grows.aspx see http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/ [19:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: adtmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://adtmag.com/blogs/watersworks/2022/03/openssf-membership-grows.aspx [19:44] TR News The Russian exile who found a way past Putin's internet firewall | TechRadar https://www.techradar.com/news/the-russian-exile-who-found-a-way-past-putins-internet-firewall "Aleksandr Litreev wants to preserve access to the free and open internet for people living under authoritarian rule." [19:45] TR News This browser-in-the-browser attack is perfect for phishing - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/browser_in_browser_phishing/ [19:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/browser_in_browser_phishing/ [19:46] schestowitz DaemonFC: DaemonFC: cnn https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/cnn-underscored/best-mattress-in-a-box/index.html [19:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/cnn-underscored/best-mattress-in-a-box/index.html [19:46] TR News ICBM? Known for financial engineering, i.e. cheating. Many CFOs do just that and cover up. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/totango-hires-ibm-salesforce-and-mastercard-alum-dennis-reardon-as-chief-revenue-officer-301502939.html [19:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/totango-hires-ibm-salesforce-and-mastercard-alum-dennis-reardon-as-chief-revenue-officer-301502939.html [19:47] schestowitz webspam https://www.techtarget.com/searchenterprisedesktop/tip/Understanding-the-features-of-Windows-11-Enterprise [19:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchenterprisedesktop/tip/Understanding-the-features-of-Windows-11-Enterprise [19:47] DaemonFC schestowitz, I'm doing fine with my $230 king size mattress. [19:47] DaemonFC There's not much difference between them. [19:47] schestowitz-TR cnn 'news' [19:48] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.114.138) has joined #techrights [19:48] DaemonFC Bed in a box from Walmart is about the same quality of "pushy sales guy talking MARISOL into paying $3,000". [19:48] DaemonFC Capitalism. [19:48] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22031247 [19:50] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Then T-Mobile has to call these crappy Nokia Home Internet modems "space gray". [19:50] TR News They're not banks, they're schemes, and super dodgy, too (like lending predators) https://www.business-standard.com/podcast/finance/why-top-lenders-are-laying-the-groundwork-for-digital-only-banks-122031500059_1.html [19:51] bnchs DaemonFC: king size mattress? [19:51] bnchs i sleep in a 30 year old mattress [19:51] TR News What is the hungry family does NOT have a so-called 'smart' so-called 'phone'? https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/where-a-free-meal-for-food-insecure-families-is-just-a-text-away [19:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: nextcity.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/where-a-free-meal-for-food-insecure-families-is-just-a-text-away [19:51] DaemonFC Reminds me of the episode of Red Dwarf where Rimmer figures out Holly can run another hologram if they power off some things, and so he makes another copy of himself, and they go to war over painting the hallway military gray vs. ocean gray. [19:51] DaemonFC And you can't tell the difference. [19:52] TR News LOL. Smells like a scam, quacks like a scam, too. "taking nonfungible tokens (NFTs) and Web3 into account" (wait, waaa?) https://cointelegraph.com/news/what-is-solana-sol-pay-and-how-does-it-work [19:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: cointelegraph.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cointelegraph.com/news/what-is-solana-sol-pay-and-how-does-it-work [19:53] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, CNN Underscored is basically spam for Amazon. [19:54] DaemonFC Bezos bought himself another failing news network. [19:54] TR News BMW greenwahsing https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T0374213EN/transformation-and-responsibility:-bmw-group-steps-up-technological-change-for-sustainable-future give me a break... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal [19:54] DaemonFC Officially soon. [19:54] DaemonFC They have more pedos and rapists at CNN than at Microsoft, amazingly. [19:54] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [19:54] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [19:55] TR News "sustainable" is vacant, meaningless junk https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/transformation-and-responsibility-bmw-group-steps-up-technological-change-for-sustainable-future/ see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal [19:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: automotiveworld.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/transformation-and-responsibility-bmw-group-steps-up-technological-change-for-sustainable-future/ [19:55] TR Bot Transformation and responsibility: BMW Group steps up technological change for sustainable future | Automotive World [19:55] TR Bot Volkswagen emissions scandal - Wikipedia [19:55] TR News WordPress.com vs. WordPress.org: Whats the Difference? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162744 [19:55] TR Bot WordPress.com vs. WordPress.org: What's the Difference? | Tux Machines [19:55] DaemonFC Between the sex scandals and Chris Cuomo advising Andrew on how to cover up the nursing home death scandal and the grope scandals in New York.... [19:55] DaemonFC Can you believe these fucking people? [19:55] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I saw an article today [19:56] schestowitz-TR Cuomo [19:56] DaemonFC Now Andrew Cuomo is thinking about running for governor again after he had to resign to get out ahead of impeachment. [19:56] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:56] schestowitz-TR there's still a change bill of bill & lolita will be under probe [19:56] schestowitz-TR maybe already is [19:57] TR News Looks like this post of ours stopped him posting completely? http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/jason-evangelho-influencer/ [19:57] TR Bot It Smells Like Marketing Not Journalism When Almost 100% of the Articles From Jason Evangelho, Senior Contributor at Forbes, Are About the Same Topic | Techrights [19:57] DaemonFC My grandmother was a virtual shut-in for years between retiring and going to the nursing home. [19:57] DaemonFC My grandfather died in 1998 and she didn't go to the home until like 2018 iirc. [19:57] TR News They [19:57] DaemonFC So she had 20 years in that house, alone, to go mad. Broken up by church on Sunday. [19:57] TR News Forbes = pure junk, spam, webspam/marketing. They used to do actual journalism until about a decade ago. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephendiorio/2022/03/15/the-revenue-operating-system/ [19:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephendiorio/2022/03/15/the-revenue-operating-system/ [19:57] TR Bot The Revenue Operating System [19:58] DaemonFC So it was her in there with the cable news channels and Pat Robertson. [19:59] TR News "A Register reader has raised concerns over UK ISP Virgin Media's password policies after discovering he couldn't set a password longer than 10 characters or one that includes non-alphanumeric characters." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/virgin_media_email_password_security/ [19:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/virgin_media_email_password_security/ [19:59] TR Bot Reg reader blasts Virgin Media's email password policy The Register [19:59] schestowitz https://ultimateclassicrock.com/u2-netflix-show/ [19:59] TR Bot Scripted U2 Series Reportedly in Development at Netflix ● Mar 19 [20:00] DaemonFC Finally, she started slipping bad. Leaving the stove on for hours, etc. Nobody checking up on her really. [20:00] DaemonFC Then she wrecked the Cadillac into someone else's car. Thankfully, nobody was hurt. [20:01] TR News Musk is not a tech person. He's a lying corrupt military contractor https://news.clearancejobs.com/2022/03/17/starlink-highlights-need-for-u-s-space-agility-strategy-against-russian-anti-satellite-weapons/ [20:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: clearancejobs.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.clearancejobs.com/2022/03/17/starlink-highlights-need-for-u-s-space-agility-strategy-against-russian-anti-satellite-weapons/ [20:01] TR Bot Starlink Highlights Need for U.S. Space Agility Strategy Against Russian Anti-Satellite Weapons [20:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:02] TR News Pushers of proprietary software https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/itam_forum_asset_management/ [20:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/itam_forum_asset_management/ [20:02] TR Bot ITAM Forum launches standard for IT asset management The Register [20:02] DaemonFC schestowitz, Starlink does more spying than any other US ISP. [20:03] DaemonFC They not only have Deep Packet Inspection, but they have hashes that they look for of copyrighted material, so if you download any that's on the list, they threaten to cut off your Internet access whether a copyright holder complains or not. [20:04] immibis how does that work with HTTPS? [20:04] TR News As it stands at the moment, a lot of very sensitive data is being passed through nototrous espionage entities. Standards alone won't fix that. https://hbr.org/2022/03/standardized-apis-could-finally-make-it-easy-to-exchange-health-records [20:04] TR Bot Standardized APIs Could Finally Make It Easy to Exchange Health Records [20:04] DaemonFC I doubt it does, but people using BitTorrent get threats directly from Starlink. [20:05] immibis that's probably how it gets funded [20:05] immibis space launches are expensive [20:05] DaemonFC There's nothing about the DMCA being involved. Those letters usually take weeks or months. [20:05] DaemonFC If you download copyrighted material on BitTorrent on Starlink, they threaten you in a matter of a day or two usually. [20:05] TR News Interview or webspam? The site innovationorigins has already become notorious for relaying EPO propaganda and whitewashing crimes as "science" https://innovationorigins.com/en/simbeyond-advances-with-first-ever-nano-level-simulation-technology/ [20:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: innovationorigins.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://innovationorigins.com/en/simbeyond-advances-with-first-ever-nano-level-simulation-technology/ [20:05] TR Bot Simbeyond advances with first-ever nano-level simulation technology - Innovation Origins [20:06] AdmFubar https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/17/each-firefox-download-has-a-unique-identifier/ [20:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/17/each-firefox-download-has-a-unique-identifier/ [20:06] TR Bot Each Firefox download has a unique identifier - gHacks Tech News [20:06] TR News Tax evasion loopholes advertised by Forbes, the rag run to hail and whitewash the world's biggest thieves https://www.forbes.com/advisor/taxes/states-with-no-income-tax/ [20:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/advisor/taxes/states-with-no-income-tax/ [20:06] TR Bot You Move To A State With No Income Tax? Forbes Advisor [20:08] TR News ISO is incredibly corrupt, but some people take pride in it, still https://opengovasia.com/quang-ninh-vietnam-applies-electronic-iso-standard-governance-system/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/ISO [20:08] TR Bot Quang Ninh, Vietnam Applies Electronic ISO-Standard Governance System OpenGov Asia [20:08] TR Bot ISO - Techrights [20:08] TR News HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://opengovasia.com/public-schools-in-telangana-india-to-deploy-ai/ [20:08] TR Bot Public Schools in Telangana, India to Deploy AI OpenGov Asia [20:08] DaemonFC schestowitz, States without an income tax get your money some other way instead. [20:09] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:09] TR News Need a replacement? Try these 5 Docker alternatives

    Read more [20:09] TR Bot Need a replacement? Try these 5 Docker alternatives [20:10] TR News You know it's a ascam when: NFT... Metaverse... NFTs https://cryptobriefing.com/nft-project-spotlight-anata-the-metaverses-anime-vtuber-nfts/ [20:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: cryptobriefing.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cryptobriefing.com/nft-project-spotlight-anata-the-metaverses-anime-vtuber-nfts/ [20:10] TR Bot NFT Project Spotlight: Anata, the Metaverse's Anime VTuber NFTs - Crypto Briefing [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.22 [20:10] DaemonFC Indiana taxes more than it plans to spend, deliberately. [20:10] DaemonFC The rebate checks are very popular. [20:10] DaemonFC And they can arrange for it to happen every year. [20:11] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.22 [20:11] TR News Hype is back in business. "America's National Science Foundation has signaled yet again how important it thinks quantum computing is with a six-figure grant to Penn State." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/quantum_us_grant/ [20:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/quantum_us_grant/ [20:11] TR Bot Quantum computing cybersecurity research gets $715k grant The Register [20:12] TR News HEY HI beauty. Hey hi! Hey you! You beauty!! Buzzwords out of control. https://www.voguebusiness.com/beauty/the-ai-beauty-startup-that-champions-transparency-and-inclusion [20:12] TR Bot The AI beauty startup that champions transparency and inclusion | Vogue Business [20:14] TR News There's more money in misleading people than in educating them properly https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-money-pit [20:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: chronicle.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-money-pit [20:14] TR Bot The College That Drowned Itself in Red Ink [20:14] DaemonFC Indiana has been phasing out the income tax. [20:14] DaemonFC It's gone down by about 40% since I left, but other taxes were raised to compensate. [20:14] DaemonFC Sometimes they don't call it taxes. [20:15] schestowitz-TR the country is in debt [20:15] schestowitz-TR also states [20:15] schestowitz-TR huge debt [20:15] DaemonFC The local government fund took a huge hit and then your water and sewage and trash bills double. [20:15] schestowitz-TR "big league" [20:15] immibis apparently people move to Texas because they love that it doesn't have income tax, then they buy big houses and are shocked by the high property tax [20:15] DaemonFC But it's not a tax! [20:15] DaemonFC Yes, Texas, Iowa, and New Jersey property taxes are even crazier than Illinois. [20:16] DaemonFC Illinois, you pay about 10 times higher property tax than Indiana. [20:16] DaemonFC About 500% higher because of the tax rate and the rest is because they overvalue the shit out of anything that's even remotely in orbit around Chicago. [20:17] DaemonFC People who flee Illinois and buy a house in Indiana generally find out two things. [20:17] DaemonFC They can get a nicer house for about 8x less money. [20:17] DaemonFC And.....their property taxes go down from about $4,800 on the house, to about $500, for the year. [20:18] DaemonFC It is so much cheaper to live in Indiana. [20:18] DaemonFC The Democrat philosophy is to make everyone fucking poor by taxing the shit out of them. [20:19] DaemonFC Then once they are poor, make them come crawling to the bureaucrats at the welfare office, in disgrace, to beg for SOME of it back, as welfare programs, with conditions of use. [20:20] DaemonFC They know how your money should be spent. [20:20] DaemonFC And with the permission of "Ms. Strong", you can buy some food that month. [20:20] DaemonFC I'm serious. They have one named "Ms. Strong". [20:21] DaemonFC I went in there and the caseworker for Medicaid is in her pajamas wearing a Naruto T-shirt that looked like she's had it since around 1995. [20:21] DaemonFC They were voting on whether their union would strike or not. [20:21] DaemonFC And they had political campaign signs up in their offices. [20:22] DaemonFC When the person at the counter with a gun told me my caseworker would be Ms. Strong, I asked if that was "As in Susan Strong from Adventure Time, or as in Strong Bad from the Flash cartoons on the Internet.". [20:24] immibis DaemonFC: since democrat areas are so terrible and expensive, why do people choose to live there? [20:25] immibis why do you live there? [20:26] DaemonFC Because it's funny in its own way. [20:26] DaemonFC Where else do you get to hear that Ms. Strong will see you soon? [20:27] DaemonFC Then in your head go.... "STRONG ANGRY! STRONG SMASH!!!! STRONG SMAAAAAAAAAASH!". [20:27] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [20:27] MinceR 19 211853 < DaemonFC> The Democrat philosophy is to make everyone fucking poor by taxing the shit out of them. [20:27] MinceR not true [20:28] MinceR they don't do that to the kleptocrats [20:28] DaemonFC Well, that's inside baseball, MinceR [20:28] MinceR the "democrats" and the "republicans" mostly do the same shit [20:28] DaemonFC They pay the same rates we do, but since they get paid with our money, they make several times what a comparable private sector worker would for that type of work. [20:29] DaemonFC the "democrats" and the "republicans" mostly do the same shit [20:29] DaemonFC Not true. [20:29] DaemonFC The Democrats take over and blame white people for all of the social rot that the party has caused. [20:29] DaemonFC And then raise taxes and buy votes and raise a patronage army. [20:29] MinceR and yet people like jeff bezos and steve ballmer and tim crook do fine under them, somehow [20:30] DaemonFC The Republicans cut taxes, but they're so egregiously fucking stupid and evil that you don't want them either. [20:30] DaemonFC and yet people like jeff bezos and steve ballmer and tim crook do fine under them, somehow [20:30] DaemonFC They live in those high tax states because when you've got a megayacht you can afford higher taxes in that state. [20:30] DaemonFC The taxes help keep the poor people from even thinking about moving in next door. [20:31] MinceR when you've got a megayacht, you can "optimize" your taxes [20:31] DaemonFC Which is why mjg59_ really lives in SF. [20:31] DaemonFC Except it doesn't quite work. [20:31] DaemonFC They set up tent cities and shit in the open streets anyway. [20:32] TR News Links 19/3/2022: Raspberry Pi Project Ideas | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/19/raspberry-pi-project-ideas/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/19/raspberry-pi-project-ideas/ [20:32] TR Bot Links 19/3/2022: Raspberry Pi Project Ideas | Techrights [20:32] DaemonFC When he says people in SF "get it", I never quite know what he means. "I love spraying human shit off my shoes!" said nobody ever. [20:32] TR News Linux Foundation: OpenSSF, FUD, and Dent OS 2.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162745 [20:32] TR Bot Linux Foundation: OpenSSF, FUD, and Dent OS 2.0 | Tux Machines [20:32] TR News Openwashing of Wolf in Sheep Clothing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162746 [20:32] TR Bot Openwashing of Wolf in Sheep Clothing | Tux Machines [20:32] TR News Security Issues and Proprietary Blunders Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162747 [20:32] TR Bot Security Issues and Proprietary Blunders | Tux Machines [20:32] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi and RISC-V Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162748 [20:32] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi and RISC-V | Tux Machines [20:32] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162749 [20:32] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:33] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162750 [20:33] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [20:36] *tdemin has quit (connection closed) [20:36] DaemonFC The packaged goods industry is obviously in deep shit. I was reading an article the other day about how much they wish they could just get rid of coupons, but their sales shrink by 25% when they do. [20:36] immibis DaemonFC: you live in a terrible third-world city because it's funny? [20:36] MinceR it's first world by definition [20:36] DaemonFC Apparently, back in the 90s, P&G and some other companies tried a trial run of getting rid of coupons, in New York. [20:37] DaemonFC They got an antitrust investigation when people complained that the coupons went away but people in other states were still getting them. [20:37] immibis MinceR: democrats are the worst of everything by definition and cannot be good in any way whatsoever [20:37] MinceR i know worse [20:37] DaemonFC Clinton, Cuomo, CNN [20:37] MinceR like those who support autocracy [20:38] MinceR my favorite recent quote on that: "Yarvin supports authoritarianism on right-libertarian grounds" [20:38] immibis MinceR: "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat" [20:39] MinceR yeah, "republicans" are even worse than "democrats" [20:39] MinceR but there are a lot of similarities [20:39] immibis rightists have basically no principles except for opposing whatever leftists want [20:39] immibis they don't even want the things they claim to want, like small government [20:39] MinceR especially before former president Cheeto Hitler cast his influence on the party [20:42] DaemonFC Cuomo not only covered up the COVID deaths in New York nursing homes because he didn't want Trump to get it, but put more elderly people in the ones he knew were having the worst problem with it. [20:42] AdmFubar https://www.pogowasright.org/smart-devices-spy-on-you-2-computer-scientists-explain-how-the-internet-of-things-can-violate-your-privacy/ [20:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/smart-devices-spy-on-you-2-computer-scientists-explain-how-the-internet-of-things-can-violate-your-privacy/ [20:42] TR Bot Smart Devices Spy on You2 Computer Scientists Explain how the Internet of Things can Violate Your Privacy [20:43] AdmFubar https://www.pogowasright.org/dhs-collected-americans-financial-records-in-bulk-sen-wyden/ [20:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/dhs-collected-americans-financial-records-in-bulk-sen-wyden/ [20:43] TR Bot DHS Collected Americans Financial Records In Bulk: Sen. Wyden [20:44] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msw-uK7WJoY [20:44] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Msw-uK7WJoY [20:44] TR Bot yewtu.be | Beautiful cat started meowing very loudly as soon as he saw me - Invidious [20:46] AdmFubar https://www.propublica.org/article/lights-out-profitable-utility-company-shut-off-electricity-to-homes-hundreds-of-thousands-of-times#1279603 [20:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/lights-out-profitable-utility-company-shut-off-electricity-to-homes-hundreds-of-thousands-of-times#1279603 [20:46] TR Bot Lights Out: Profitable Utility Company Shut Off Electricity to Homes Hundreds of Thousands of Times ProPublica [20:54] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights ● Mar 19 [21:03] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [21:09] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/tgsqlo/the_of_torproject_bridge_users_in_russia_spiked/ [21:09] TR Bot The # of @torproject bridge users in Russia spiked (following a censorship attempt from Dec-present) [OC] : dataisbeautiful [21:15] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:18] *bnchs (~bnchs@qawdzg548a46q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:20] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:20] bnchs starlink should be destroyed [21:20] bnchs i'm sick of light pollution [21:22] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2203115 [21:22] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/8wamhfiogcm81.jpg created on 2022-03-11 01:44:01.600214 [21:22] bnchs MinceR: dumbasses [21:22] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [21:23] XRevan86 MinceR: They took offence to the word "sapiens". [21:23] MinceR :> [21:23] bnchs if (strcmp(word, "homo") == 0) return FREE_CHILD; [21:23] MinceR no Homo [21:24] bnchs they hear the word homo [21:24] bnchs they will dump their kid [21:26] bnchs https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/31343/did-a-survey-of-conservative-christians-show-85-would-disown-their-child-if-the [21:26] TR Bot religion - Did a survey of conservative Christians show 85% would disown their child if they turned out to be homo sapiens? - Skeptics Stack Exchange [21:27] bnchs it was a joke, but would have been funnier if it was real [21:32] psydruid homo minimus sapiens [21:33] bnchs gay trees [21:34] activelow https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Capuchin_monkeys_sharing.jpg [21:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Capuchin_monkeys_sharing.jpg [21:36] bnchs now how do you put a GPU in a system that has a different architecture [21:36] bnchs other than x86 [21:36] bnchs i guess you could compile the drivers and it would work [21:37] bnchs but hardware differences? [21:48] psydruid usually the firmware on the graphics card needs to be adapted [21:49] psydruid there are some Nvidia and AMD GPUs that work on non-x86 architectures [21:49] psydruid but usually they have GPUs provided on-die [21:49] AdmFubar bigger hammer technologies [21:55] mjg59_ If the other architecture has PCIe then you just plug it in [21:56] mjg59_ The system firmware probably won't know how to initialise the card, but Linux will work just fine [21:57] DaemonFC I didn't say Chicago was a third world country, but it's definitely closer to one than rural America. [21:57] DaemonFC When you get out far past the high taxes and welfare programs, then you end up with somewhere clean and safe to live in, where a dollar goes twice as far. [21:58] DaemonFC The reason why Walmart pays $18 in Illinois per hour and $12 per hour in Indiana is because you'll still live worse in Illinois despite making the extra $6 an hour. [21:59] DaemonFC The cheap apartment in the ghetto is $900 a month plus electric. [21:59] DaemonFC In Indiana, you can usually find a nice apartment that's bigger and electric included for about $475-$500 a month. [21:59] activelow the Gigatron TTL got native graphics init, for VGA... nice. ● Mar 19 [22:00] DaemonFC Then you get to taxes. Illinois has the worst tax burden in the country, and the 10th most regressive state tax system. [22:00] activelow for untapped serial-line terminal with PS/2 and VGA [22:00] DaemonFC I believe for regressiveness, Indiana's was 27th last time I checked, so it's not only going to tax you less, but the relative burden falls less on low earners than Democrat-supermajority Illinois. [22:00] DaemonFC Imagine that. [22:01] activelow and the gigatron, imagine this, is opensource, both hardware and software, down to the circuitry (including the TTL logic chips which should be documented with Verilog) [22:01] DaemonFC Illinois has a Medicaid crisis. They took the Obamacare Medicaid money and expanded a disastrous program, and now much of the state is a medical desert for Medicaid clients. [22:01] immibis DaemonFC: why do you live there? [22:01] DaemonFC Entire ZIP codes in Chicago now have nowhere to go except the hospital if you have Medicaid. [22:02] DaemonFC Indiana worked with health insurance companies to gain access to their networks of doctors. They even found room in the budget to throw in dental and vision, which Illinois doesn't have. [22:02] DaemonFC DaemonFC: why do you live there? [22:02] immibis bnchs: yeah PCIe is abstracted enough that the card shouldn't know it's not talking to x86 [22:02] immibis it's a generic bus [22:03] DaemonFC I followed Shithead here and just never left. [22:03] immibis you can even talk PCIe from FPGAs [22:03] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:03] activelow although, i don't know if any software exists yet, to bit-bang serial-line into the Gigatron, and provide a console with VGA and PS/2 [22:03] immibis DaemonFC: so you voluntarily live in a shit city? [22:03] DaemonFC As soon as we're done with Immigration for a while I probably will leave and move to a state with freedom. [22:03] DaemonFC Or some semblance of it. [22:04] DaemonFC DaemonFC: so you voluntarily live in a shit city? [22:04] DaemonFC Not for much longer. [22:04] DaemonFC Next place we live has some MUSTs and some SHOULDs. [22:04] prompted DaemonFC is moving to ukrainia [22:05] DaemonFC MUSTs: Open Carry. Low taxes. Low rents. Few troublemakers. [22:05] immibis DaemonFC: The people of Chicago will be glad to see you gone [22:05] DaemonFC They won't notice. [22:05] immibis instead of trying to force your narrative on them using violence [22:05] DaemonFC With the bullets flying everywhere and Willie Wilson causing traffic jams giving them a little free gas t obreak up $6 a gallon... [22:06] DaemonFC They'll never notice whether I stay or leave. [22:06] prompted ukrainia only fails on the Few troublemakers requirement [22:06] immibis activelow would also like it since he complains about ukraine stealing all the gas money. He could be the thief instead of the thieved [22:06] DaemonFC The US State Department said something that would encourage me to go to Ukraine and fight if I wasn't married. [22:07] DaemonFC They don't track why you're there or what you're doing. [22:07] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/are-you-sure-you-want-to-exist.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/05/nietzsches-pc/ ) [22:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/are-you-sure-you-want-to-exist.jpg [22:07] TR Bot Nietzsches PC [22:07] DaemonFC Time to kill some Russians. [22:07] DaemonFC I already have the solution to the Russia problem. [22:08] DaemonFC Drop the black people in on them. [22:08] DaemonFC Putin says we've treated them badly. [22:08] activelow immibis: i never said nor implied it was Ukraine at fault [22:08] DaemonFC He obviously knows how to do better. [22:08] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/uw26rek.png [22:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/uw26rek.png [22:08] DaemonFC Anyway, when they start raping, looting, mugging, and killing, the police won't have any resources to detain war protesters with. [22:08] DaemonFC So either way is a win. [22:08] activelow immibis: even including the surplus for Ukraine, this doesn't explain the excess energy price explosion in germany [22:09] immibis activelow: you complain about russia selling gas for $50/unit and ukraine reselling it for $250/unit. I think you were pretty explicit about that [22:09] immibis activelow: what are re-seller margins? [22:09] immibis example? Ukraine bought gas from russia for $50, and sold for $250; the margin is $200 [22:10] activelow immibis: yes, based on the assumption, Russia sold 20Euro/MWh, plus the ukraine surplus, that's nowhere near the ~30cents/KWh for electricity in Germany [22:10] DaemonFC Using them as a biological weapon isn't a new idea, I confess. [22:10] DaemonFC That's what the Xenomorphs were in Alien. [22:11] DaemonFC Supposedly, you could just drop them in on your enemy and wait for them to just kill everything. [22:11] immibis activelow: so you really were complaining about the free market after all [22:11] DaemonFC In South Africa, they've locked white people out of all the government jobs and stolen the farm land. [22:11] DaemonFC One of their high ranking government officials arranged to give some to herself. [22:12] DaemonFC Then there were hundreds and hundreds of dead farm animals because she's "still learning". [22:12] DaemonFC The pigs eating the dead pigs was a nice touch. [22:12] activelow immibis: it's not market economy, it's a cleptocratic apparatus of war criminals hiding somewhere - outside Ukraine/Russia [22:12] DaemonFC Silence of the Pigs. [22:12] immibis DaemonFC: yet you never complain about in USA where they've locked black people out of all the government jobs and stolen the farm land. [22:13] DaemonFC Black people are not locked out of government jobs here. [22:13] DaemonFC Every time they do something wrong at the DMV and make you wait in line again to correct their mistake, you find that out. [22:14] activelow i have another suspicion, concerning the recent energy price explosion: soccer stadiums in germany re-opened, with billions dripping into from somewhere, to entertain the masses spreading covid [22:14] DaemonFC There's actually a white woman that works at the DMV in this city and I know what days she's there. [22:14] DaemonFC If I have to go to the DMV, I make sure to go on one of those days and stand in her line. [22:14] immibis I have another suspicion: fossil fuels are expensive and it's our own damn fault for still using them. We should take financial responsibility and stop buying shit we can't afford. [22:14] DaemonFC Because we've never been there more than 10 minutes when we get her. [22:15] DaemonFC I always wondered how anyone can manage to fuck up renewing a license plate sticker. [22:15] DaemonFC It is literally scan bar code hit a few buttons to mark it paid for this year, and PRINT. [22:16] DaemonFC You'd think that doing it all day every day they'd eventually be unable to fuck it up. [22:17] immibis well we live in a system where if you are too efficient you get punished [22:17] DaemonFC Yeah, I noticed that at one job I had. [22:17] DaemonFC I made 186% of my rate for one job code, like 142% for another. [22:18] DaemonFC Before I knew it, I got promoted, and then I had the boss doing nothing except watching me. [22:18] activelow "fossile" doesn't explain it, nor is it "energy price", Russia/Ukraine continued to supply with their pipelines unaltered, and demand was rather low due to covid lock-down [22:18] DaemonFC Then he said he knew I was cheating and he just hadn't figured out how yet. [22:18] DaemonFC I said, "Well, if you don't know how, you can't really substantiate the accusation, can you?". [22:18] immibis activelow: do you know what speculation is? commodities trading? [22:19] activelow yes, and speculation relies on economic facts and reality [22:19] DaemonFC I wasn't cheating. The computer arranged the work inefficiently, so I rearranged it so the work would flow in the direction I was getting it in, instead. [22:19] DaemonFC Which accounted for me getting the work out-of-order. [22:19] immibis activelow: it literally doesn't - which is why it's called speculation [22:20] activelow wrong, that's why it is speculation, not gambling and extortion [22:20] activelow however, with speculation involved, Russia/Ukraine continued to supply with their pipelines, and consumption was low due to covid [22:20] immibis speculation is based on things that speculators think might happen. For example, a decrease in the supply of gas from Russia. [22:20] immibis The chance that the supply will increase is basically zero [22:20] DaemonFC Like, if you scanned in parts in boxes labeled 001, 002, 003, 004, 005, and so on, and there were 100 boxes to work through in that screen, the computer would try to tell you what to do with them sequentially. [22:20] activelow immibis: wrong again, northstream2 [22:21] DaemonFC The problem is that they weren't required to be ordered sequentially, leading you to have to find the box and go digging through it. [22:21] immibis activelow: which is canceled [22:21] DaemonFC By scanning them in so that I never had to dig, I could do less work, and do the same amount of work faster. [22:21] immibis btw it's now called Mordstream 2 i.e. Murder Stream 2 [22:22] MinceR lol [22:22] immibis I think schestowitz-TR would like that pun [22:22] *XRevan86 appreciated it. [22:22] immibis ("Nord" = "north" in German; "Mord" = "murder" in German) [22:24] XRevan86 When activelow is talking about the stuff like Nordstream-2 I straight up don't understand his point. [22:24] XRevan86 It's also Mordstream-2 because it's flipping dead. [22:25] XRevan86 Also it was incredibly expensive and literally never economically viable. [22:25] XRevan86 In that it was a vanity project, which has managed to become a spectacular failure in practically every respect. [22:25] immibis XRevan86: activelow seems to be a pro-fossil-fuel extremist for some reason [22:25] immibis he insists renewable energy can never possibly work [22:26] immibis not that there are solutions but we'll have to adapt somewhat, or invent new technology, or pay a bit more for energy. But that they simply can't work. [22:26] immibis all renewable energy schemes are apparently just scams to extract your money [22:27] XRevan86 Even when that's taken as an assumption, that still wouldn't mean that Nordstream-2 is not just stupid. [22:27] activelow XRevan86: 11billion for northstream2, which was a cooperative of Germany/Russia/Netherlands/Switzerland [22:27] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/th69xy/provided_without_comment/ [22:27] TR Bot Provided without comment. : LateStageCapitalism [22:27] DaemonFC Canadians are fairly racist and don't want "the wrong immigrants". [22:27] DaemonFC (brown/Muslim) [22:27] activelow add to this, illegally re-routed gas supplies, in Poland/Ukraine [22:27] activelow which was another few coins of undisclosed amount [22:28] XRevan86 Nordstream-2 was not going to make the gas cheaper, activelow. [22:28] XRevan86 It was just too expensive for that. [22:28] activelow XRevan86: sure it couldn't. because Russia did supply gas reliably in compliance with contracts [22:29] activelow the price explosion isn't explained by Ukraine/Russia [22:29] activelow another problem is, Poland is member of EU, with free roaming, and close to the border gasoline prices are 50% lower in Poland, with them and Ukraine demanding transit fees [22:29] XRevan86 DaemonFC: It's also that Syria is somewhere out there in the Middle East, people just don't care about instability there. [22:30] DaemonFC It's normal for there to be instability in the Middle East. [22:30] DaemonFC They're incapable of having a democratic and high functioning society. [22:30] XRevan86 Now instability in Europe, now that makes people worried. [22:30] DaemonFC If it wasn't for oil money turning a bunch of thugs rich, they'd be no better off than Africa. [22:31] XRevan86 "They're incapable of having a democratic and high functioning society." <- Um, I think that's my call to run away from this conversation. [22:32] *matey (~matey@zgwesimerdb6c.irc) has joined #techrights [22:32] prompted another one [22:32] immibis activelow: and you say wind turbines are expensive! [22:32] mjg59_ XRevan86: Surely you can't be surprised at him interjecting random racism into a conversation [22:33] immibis activelow: maybe you should buy your gas directly from nordstream [22:33] mjg59_ matey: re: your freedom 0 discussion earlier - would a license that said "You may not use this software to prevent other people from exercising their free software rights" violate freedom 0? [22:33] DaemonFC The logical thing to do about the Russians is give Ukraine anything they need to kill ALL Russians who come across the border until no more Russians come across the border. [22:33] immibis DaemonFC: why do you want to murder little children? [22:34] immibis normally such a statement would be an exaggeration, but in this case you literally just said you want to murder little children [22:34] activelow immibis: first and foremost i say wind turbines did not/do not deliver the amount of energy advertised; and i said wind turbines are as "fossile" as any other energy source, because 10tons of steel are required for a turbine, plus the heavy magnet, huge amounts of copper for the coil etc. [22:34] DaemonFC Again, I can't wait until the Russian tank crews get a load of those Switchblade drones. [22:34] DaemonFC That ought to be funny when they do. I hope someone gets it on video. [22:34] immibis activelow: do you have to keep buying steel to burn in the turbine? [22:34] XRevan86 mjg59_: Indeed not. [22:35] activelow immibis: 3000 wind turbines are required to replace a single nuclear plant (scheduled for final shutdown in germany 2022, this year) [22:35] XRevan86 mjg59_: And I I also see a lot of similiar statements about my country, so this particular kind of chauvinism is also something that can be turned around on me specifically in a millisecond. [22:35] immibis activelow: how many tons of steel are in a nuclear plant? [22:35] DaemonFC People who fuck everything up and then blame others for being failed people do not impress me. [22:35] immibis DaemonFC: why do you want to murder little children? [22:35] activelow don't know, to mock a little, i think a nuclear plant is required to produce all the steel required for the thousands of wind mills (which barely deliver, add to this) [22:36] DaemonFC I mean, literally EVERY time one of them gets arrested, for ANYTHING. [22:36] DaemonFC It's something something because white people. [22:36] DaemonFC It doesn't have to make sense because there are people out there like Matt Gulag who eat it up and are mad that people like me call bullshit on it. [22:36] matey mjg59_ matey: re: your freedom 0 discussion earlier - would a license that said "You may not use this software to prevent other people from exercising their free software rights" violate freedom 0? [22:36] matey /me braces for sophistry [22:37] immibis activelow: Google says 40 tons per megawatt, and 190 m^3 of concrete per megawatt. How many megawatts do your wind turbines make? [22:37] matey would a license that said "You may not use this software to prevent other people from exercising their free software rights" violate freedom 0? <- no [22:37] matey though some people think it does [22:37] prompted if i get a arrested i blame DaemonFC [22:37] DaemonFC How many landfills full of busted up wind turbines does it take before people realize that wind turbines are another scam? [22:37] immibis activelow: If your wind turbine produces more than 0.25 megawatts - which it does - then it uses less steel than a nuclear reactor [22:38] matey mjg59_ go ahead, take your shot [22:38] mjg59_ matey: Yeah, that's my feeling. Would that mean that using that software in a weapon that's used to kill someone would be a breach of the license? [22:38] DaemonFC Nobody is recycling those. Nobody recycles the blades. [22:38] immibis DaemonFC: How many landfills full of busted up gas turbines does it take before people realize that gas turbines are another scam? [22:38] activelow immibis: in germany? the real market share of all renewables including the wind mills is close to below 1%; based upon solid data from IFO Munich. [22:38] DaemonFC They just bury them forever when they're done with them. [22:38] matey Would that mean that using that software in a weapon that's used to kill someone would be a breach of the license? <- aha, there it is [22:38] immibis activelow: megawatts per 10-ton windmill. Go. [22:38] immibis DaemonFC: How many landfills full of busted up takeout boxes does it take before people realize that takeout boxes are another scam? [22:38] matey mjg59_ if we use that kind of logic, you realise that everything negates everything in the end [22:38] mjg59_ matey: I'm genuinely interested in whether reframing the goals of "ethical source" licenses (which I agree are not free software) in terms of preserving freedom makes them more appealing to the free software community [22:39] activelow immibis: i think the total aggregate of investments and returns thereof is calculated sufficiently, by IFO Munich; [22:39] immibis activelow: How many megawatts dose a 10-ton windmill produce? [22:39] DaemonFC mjg59_ is just another anti-GPL troll. [22:39] XRevan86 In Russia there are proposals to legalise piracy. [22:39] DaemonFC Microsoft booster, etc. [22:39] DaemonFC Does everything on Github even. [22:39] XRevan86 But the no-war licence would surely be effective. [22:39] matey mjg59_ is just another anti-GPL troll. <- no youre making him out to be ordinary [22:39] activelow or why would you think, the eco-feminist-peace-activist Robert Habeck (ministry of economics) now begs in Quatar to raise Gas supplies? [22:39] mjg59_ matey: I don't think such a license would be workable, but the question is whether it's free software or not [22:39] prompted piracy in the bosphros [22:39] immibis XRevan86: this year we all learned that things like copyright are artificial social constructions that can only exist within the confines of a state willing to enforce them, and not some kind of natural law. [22:39] matey mjg59_ let me put it this way. [22:39] DaemonFC He can't find anything wrong with their plagiarism software, either. [22:39] immibis activelow: How many megawatts dose a 10-ton windmill produce? [22:40] DaemonFC And all of his friends on Shitter seem to be Microsoft employees. [22:40] XRevan86 immibis: I thought PRC taught us this lesson before already. [22:40] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Yeah I've been involved in multiple cases to rectify GPL violations but I'm anti-GPL [22:40] DaemonFC Only when it was to shut down companies that competed with Microsoft. [22:40] activelow immibis: already answered. [22:40] DaemonFC Like those Linux tablets. [22:40] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Literally untrue [22:40] immibis XRevan86: you would think so. My previous employer sent customers separate hardware devices and SD cards with firmware and I couldn't figure out why they would do that until I realized they wanted to avoid their firmware entering China [22:40] DaemonFC Then you "ride to the rescue". [22:40] matey mjg59_ in imaginaryland, exceptions to freedom 0 for forbidding war would make every user more free [22:41] immibis activelow: It was not answered. I do not see a megawatt number anywhere in the scrollback. [22:41] matey mjg59_ but in real life world, exceptions to freedom 0 for forbidding war would make every free license into a worthless piece of shit, and all users are less free [22:41] DaemonFC A Chinese company makes Linux tablets like over 10 years ago, I think. [22:41] matey but in imaginary land your question is one of impeccable logic [22:41] DaemonFC Mr. Gulag shuts them down with US Customs, so they couldn't sell anything that might interfere with Windows RT. [22:41] prompted --- deb.xanmod.org ping statistics --- [22:41] prompted 243 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 243929ms [22:41] DaemonFC Windows RT flops anyway. [22:41] matey note that for most of my political years ive been an antiwar activist [22:41] DaemonFC :) [22:42] immibis DaemonFC: probably bullshit [22:42] matey and im hardly an advocate of the dod now [22:42] immibis activelow: How many megawatts does a 10-ton windmill produce? [22:42] activelow immibis: ask Robert Habeck, why his wind mills subsidized with a trillion cannot compensate Russian/Ukrainian gas supplies [22:42] immibis activelow: I am asking you. [22:42] mjg59_ DaemonFC: That was 2 years before Windows RT was released, so I had remarkable foresight [22:42] matey but in imaginary land your question is one of impeccable logic <- this could be dismissed as casual sarcasm, im quite serious and sincere about it [22:42] DaemonFC Well, you seem to be in communication with them a lot. [22:42] matey under completely imaginary circumstances it DOES make FLAWLESS sense! [22:43] matey thats the difference between theory and practice [22:43] DaemonFC 2 years before the devices ship, they know there will be Windows RT devices, you know. [22:43] mjg59_ matey: Like I said, I don't think it's a good license! [22:43] matey okay [22:43] DaemonFC That's within the planning stages. [22:43] XRevan86 For one thing, it is uncertain whether even a copyright-respecting country would take an anti-war clause seriously. [22:43] mjg59_ matey: But it's interesting to think about whether there are ways to achieve the goals of the "ethical source" people in a way that doesn't compromise the goals of free software [22:43] DaemonFC Microsoft doesn't want any interference because they know when people have choices they won't choose Microsoft. [22:43] matey in a world where logic worked that way, i could get away with murder because everyone knows im a terrible shot [22:43] activelow immibis: typically the maximum output of such a wind mill is advertized, which is practically useless, because of the volatility; that's why the total aggregate data of "renewable" market share from IFO Munich is more precise [22:44] DaemonFC Their users are slipping away from them bit by bit. [22:44] activelow immibis: and this total aggregate showed the renewable market share is close to absent [22:44] immibis activelow: Answer the question. How many megawatts does a 10-ton windmill produce? [22:44] matey "yes i killed him your honour, but given my notoriously bad aim this can only be seen as an accident, not a murder" [22:44] DaemonFC Windows is losing users now like Internet Explorer did. [22:44] matey i mean thats the same sort of logic [22:44] DaemonFC So Microsoft invades other platforms. Samsung phones, Raspbian, etc. [22:44] prompted The oldest and second-largest operating tidal power plant is in La Rance, France, with 240 MW of electricity generation capacity. [22:44] activelow immibis: without de-stabilizing the energy grid? [22:44] immibis activelow: In reality. How many megawatts does a 10-ton windmill produce? [22:45] immibis prompted: neat. That's a good chunk of power. [22:45] DaemonFC I recently disposed of a Samsung phone that wasn't even that old because they have pretty much no quality control at all anymore, and their shitty firmware is a Microsoft colony, which only compounds the technical issues. [22:45] mjg59_ DaemonFC: You claim that I only do GPL enforcement work to benefit Microsoft. When I challenge you on that, you just start talking about random Microsoft-related things. [22:45] matey anyway its difficult (at first i thought he was saying something else) to find much faul with what kuhn was saying [22:45] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Why do you keep making things up about me? [22:45] matey if its in isolation [22:45] DaemonFC DaemonFC: You claim that I only do GPL enforcement work to benefit Microsoft. When I challenge you on that, you just start talking about random Microsoft-related things. [22:45] activelow immibis: ask this Chancellor Scholz and Robert Habeck, who are responsible for a war in Ukraine now [22:45] immibis activelow: I am asking you. [22:45] DaemonFC It's on Wikipedia that you blocked those tablets. [22:45] XRevan86 mjg59_: It would be nice if the "ethical source" people knew that copyright is not like writing programme, it's not going to just be executed blindly by a machine. [22:45] matey it really has to be in the context of other things (which are true) for it to be a huge problem [22:45] immibis activelow: The fact that you're unable to answer indicates, frankly, that you are full of bullshit and hot air. [22:46] matey mjg59_: It would be nice if the "ethical source" people knew that copyright is not like writing programme, it's not going to just be executed blindly by a machine. <- this [22:46] DaemonFC It's not even clear what possible "harm" they could have caused to the GPL. [22:46] activelow immibis: i am not willing to cite fraudulent data [22:46] matey brb [22:46] *matey has quit (Quit) [22:46] DaemonFC So I can only surmise that Microsoft wanted help to plow the road. [22:46] DaemonFC Get rid of other devices on the market that people could choose, which were not controlled by them. [22:46] immibis activelow: Bruh. I'm not even asking you to cite data. Your opinion would do. [22:46] mjg59_ DaemonFC: They were shipping hardware to people without giving them the source code? It's pretty clear what the harm was. [22:46] activelow i slightly trust the data from IFO Munich however which was published 5years ago already, with a prognosis of doomsday ahead... [22:46] immibis activelow: Please estimate for me how many megawatts one of these 10-ton windmills produces on average. [22:46] DaemonFC DaemonFC: They were shipping hardware to people without giving them the source code? It's pretty clear what the harm was. [22:47] activelow immibis: the suppliers of those wind mills advertise the maximum output almost always, and this i consider fraudulent, and i will not cite fraudulent data [22:47] DaemonFC I recall you saying that some Android distributors were just dumping binaries onto their devices from name brand vendors and never had source code to begin with. [22:47] immibis activelow: Please estimate for me how many megawatts one of these 10-ton windmills ACTUALLY PRODUCES on average. [22:47] DaemonFC Of course, Samsung has done GPL violations before. [22:47] immibis activelow: Please ESTIMATE for me how many megawatts one of these 10-ton windmills ACTUALLY PRODUCES on average. [22:48] *matey (~matey@c2gu7hwdb8n7c.irc) has joined #techrights [22:48] prompted It is reckoned that an average onshore wind turbine rated at 2.5 3 megawatts can produce in excess of 6 million kWh every year. A 3.6 MW offshore turbine may double that. [22:48] mjg59_ DaemonFC: It's true! And that also creats harm [22:48] DaemonFC And Samsung didn't do anything to correct their GPL violations until I brought the SFLC into it over Busybox. [22:48] DaemonFC So what they do to get a free pass to violate the GPL is they excise bits like BusyBox. [22:49] immibis 6 million kWh per year is 685 kW (0.685 MW). activelow: do you think this is a reasonable estimate? [22:49] matey while i actually sympathise with JUST ONE thing kuhn is trying to achieve [22:49] DaemonFC GPL violators like SONY come up with replacements for just the small bits where anyone will do enforcement actions. [22:49] DaemonFC And then they're fine again. [22:49] matey i think its more likely to create a second coc where projects are forbidden from doing various things with software [22:49] DaemonFC They can go back to violating the license of the Linux kernel and god knows what else. [22:49] mjg59_ DaemonFC: So, again, what's your justification for claiming that I only do it to benefit Microsoft? [22:49] matey the coc is about communications between developers (and arguably users) [22:49] immibis btw: GPLv2 is terrible. It is basically MIT because it can still be locked down [22:49] matey the second coc will be about what projects are allowed to do [22:50] DaemonFC Well, "Secure Boot" is a Microsoft bullshit tactic. [22:50] immibis GPLv3 would force Samsung to allow you to install custom firmware [22:50] matey maybe there will be a coc against "copyright infringement" that forbids debian from including youtube-dl in the repos [22:50] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Do you have any evidence that I only help with GPL enforcement to help Microsoft? [22:50] DaemonFC It's designed to take over the computer. There is no "Custom Mode" on most laptops and I refuse to believe you're too stupid to have noticed that. [22:50] matey i actually like part of kuhns idea-- the problem is [22:50] matey its more likely to be done in a way that limits free software further [22:50] DaemonFC They edit the Setup program to remove CUSTOM MODE and then the user has no control over it. [22:51] activelow immibis: a typical nuclear plant operates at the scale of 1000-2000MW; if 3000wind mills are required each individual one's maximum output is roughly 1MW on average, yet this is maximum output unavailable to consumers almost always [22:51] DaemonFC It's Microsoft's key and nothing else, and now with Windows 11, Windows or the highway. If that's what Microsoft wants. [22:51] DaemonFC Maybe they'd be sued. Does it matter? Not really. [22:51] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Do you have any evidence that I only help with GPL enforcement to help Microsoft? [22:51] activelow that's why the data is useless to estimate the final return of investment, which currently is war in ukraine [22:51] immibis activelow: WHAT IS THE MEGAWATT VELOCITY OF AN AVERAGELY LADEN WINDMILL? [22:51] DaemonFC Can you imagine a Supreme Court dominated by Trump to rule in favor of anyone but Microsoft here? [22:52] matey the thing about the moral police is they arent interested in side effects unless the world spends YEARS complaining about their shortsidedness [22:52] DaemonFC DaemonFC: Do you have any evidence that I only help with GPL enforcement to help Microsoft? [22:52] matey then they say "well okay, how can we make this moral policing work for YOU then?" [22:52] matey and its still a loaded question [22:52] DaemonFC Why else would you kill a Linux tablet that nobody had even heard of using such tactics? [22:52] matey of course in theory, its no problem at all. its only a problem in practice. [22:52] DaemonFC Further, what do you think the environmental harm is of throwing away a 52 foot container of tablets? [22:52] matey this is proof that the theory sucks. [22:53] DaemonFC Or however many were shipped. [22:53] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Because everyone who receives material under the GPL should be able to exercise their rights [22:53] matey when theories cant ever detect problems and side effects, and the side effects routinely outweigh the benefits [22:53] matey thats proof that the theory was shit all along. [22:53] matey open source was shit all along. [22:53] mjg59_ And because, in this case, the company writing their software was just up the road and so it was easy to engage with them directly [22:53] matey we have proof [22:53] immibis activelow: How. Many. Megawatts. Does. One. Of. These. 10. Ton. Windmills. Actually. Produce. On. Average. [22:54] DaemonFC And because, in this case, the company writing their software was just up the road and so it was easy to engage with them directly [22:54] immibis petition to /kick activelow if he doesn't come up with an average megawatt number [22:54] DaemonFC So they were a small thorn in Microsoft's side and you "engaged" with them and nobody heard from that company again, right? [22:54] matey /me demands the answer be in jiggiwatts [22:54] DaemonFC Big problems happen when you ignore little problems. [22:54] XRevan86 immibis: But if activelow is gone, who's going to explain to me the nature of German Titan cow tit slime chaos? [22:55] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Microsoft had no product in this space at the time, and wouldn't release one until 2 years later, so no, they weren't any sort of thorn in Microsoft's side [22:55] immibis XRevan86: don't worry he'll come back [22:55] immibis mjg59_: what was the stated reason for blocking this import? [22:55] DaemonFC Microsoft can't accept that a few people leave because once they do, not only do they not come back. They tell their friends, "Hey, you know how Microsoft products crash all the time and get viruses, and destroy your data and cost a lot? This doesn't do that!". [22:55] matey how many megawatts does it to take to blast apart a tootsie roll pop? [22:55] mjg59_ immibis: They were violating the terms of the GPL [22:55] DaemonFC So they don't tolerate competition. They find ways to ruin it somehow. [22:55] mjg59_ And so it was a copyright infringement [22:55] immibis neat. Did they start following the GPL? [22:55] mjg59_ Yup [22:55] immibis cool then what's the argument about? [22:56] DaemonFC And with Spamsung phones, they're ruining them by putting their apps on them, which most users don't want and would never install. [22:56] mjg59_ Great question [22:56] DaemonFC And then making them non-optional. [22:56] mjg59_ Apparently me helping ensure users receive GPLed source code is actually me being in league with Microsoft [22:56] chicksahoy DaemonFC: amen [22:56] matey WHAT IS THE MEGAWATT VELOCITY OF AN AVERAGELY LADEN WINDMILL? <- what do you mean, an african windmill or a european one? [22:56] DaemonFC Spamsung is killing the usability of their phones. [22:56] chicksahoy DaemonFC: i love that term, "spamsung" [22:57] immibis matey: a european one, in this case [22:57] DaemonFC You don't need Microsoft for anything in Android, much less Bixby and Fakebook. [22:57] immibis mjg59_: Same energy as "if you don't oppose Ukraine joining NATO it's your fault Russia invaded them" [22:57] chicksahoy mjg59_: are you a fedora developer? [22:57] matey the problem with the european windmills is the greens and the nordstrom-2 cancelled the project in favour of "green energy" [22:57] XRevan86 matey: I don't know that [22:57] DaemonFC I'm hoping that Google puts more energy into the Pixel series. Because the 6 is pretty good. [22:57] matey note i still have no idea who chicksahoy is [22:57] XRevan86 *falls into a pit* [22:57] matey XRevan86: AAAAAAAHHHHHH! [22:58] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:58] DaemonFC They enforce the "clean Android" thing on the carriers. [22:58] immibis chicksahoy is a reptoidz, xer username says so [22:58] DaemonFC If more people notice, I think Spamsung's days are numbered. [22:58] chicksahoy immibis: i don't use the xer pronoun [22:58] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:58] DaemonFC They shot themselves in the foot with all of this bloatware and Microsoft tie-ins. [22:58] immibis xer is a generic pronoun. [22:58] XRevan86 matey: How do ye know so much about windmills? [22:58] chicksahoy im not non-binary [22:58] DaemonFC You can already see the beginning of the end for them. [22:59] matey immibis: there is a coincidence with the name. im actually assuming good faith here but the coincidence has some unfortunate connotations which im willing to ignore, but they come up just the same [22:59] immibis chicksahoy: are you one of those people who insists that "they" cannot be singular? [22:59] matey i was asked about this recently. thats why im stating again, i have no idea [22:59] matey maybe a coincidence. [22:59] DaemonFC "Samsung" marketshare within Android OEMs is falling and it only started when they packed the phone full of breadcrumbs back to Microsoft. [22:59] matey maybe a deliberately troll. but note im assuming good faith. [22:59] DaemonFC Even with LG getting out of the business entirely, "Samsung" fell more. [22:59] DaemonFC Which is amazing. [22:59] matey i dont know why-- yes i do, i havent paid enough attention to have a reasonable opinion about it. [22:59] chicksahoy immibis: if people want to use xer,they,them, etc thats fine but im her/she ● Mar 19 [23:00] DaemonFC Even with the US government interfering to ruin Huawei, "Samsung" continued to fall. [23:00] immibis someone doesn't know what "generic" means. A generic pronoun applies to all people regardless of gender. [23:00] DaemonFC They fell by about 15% or so in a GROWING market for Android phones, with several vendors leaving or being pulverized by governmental jingoism. [23:01] matey /me is a huge fan of singular they, even before it went all mainstream [23:01] DaemonFC LG had a fair number of Android users and Huawei was never huge in the US, but had like almost 4% I think. [23:01] DaemonFC So if Samsung really makes the best Android phones, they could be expected to gobble it all up. It would be a huge boon for them. [23:01] DaemonFC The consolidation. [23:02] chicksahoy immibis: i know what generic means [23:02] DaemonFC But instead, people flock to phones like the Pixel because they're tired of being pissed off by incompetent and corrupt software. [23:02] chicksahoy DaemonFC: the pixel actually lets you install lineageos [23:03] matey XRevan86 you have to know these things when youre 'king around [23:03] chicksahoy which makes them good phones [23:03] DaemonFC Even with Android it's a damned sight better than the Galaxy S20 was. [23:03] DaemonFC Samsung really is making Windows 10 the phone these days. [23:04] DaemonFC I mean, it's Android, but all of these "icky" deceptive and sleazy practices that Windows 10/11 (same thing really) do like the spyware, the ads, the bugs, the forced updates that break things worse than they were already.... [23:04] DaemonFC Samsung has cloned that and brought it to their phones. [23:04] immibis that has been phones since forever [23:04] matey technically rms never said they cant be singular, he said its gramatically ambiguous and "per" would be better [23:04] XRevan86 The weird thing is that I haven't seen a Samsung phone in years. [23:04] immibis all devices made by manufacturers who can get away with it [23:05] immibis matey: wait until he learns German pronouns [23:05] matey though i think per was protesting too much [23:05] DaemonFC I moved my laptop to Debian. The new one. [23:05] DaemonFC I have never even booted Fedora on this one. [23:05] matey lots of words are ambiguous. "kal" was ambiguous as fuck tomorrow [23:05] matey it means today AND yesterday [23:05] matey sory tomorrow AND yesterday [23:05] DaemonFC I completely lost interest in Fedora. Ever since the IBM takeover, Fedora is like the red headed stepchild. [23:05] DaemonFC Nobody cares that it's falling apart. [23:05] matey but not today [23:06] DaemonFC Nobody maintains non-GNOME desktops to make sure that they even work at all, but they do package them......broken. [23:06] DaemonFC Completely broken. [23:06] XRevan86 I just use singular "they" because all the other proposals stink. [23:06] matey rms would say "but you can tell it from context which day kal refers to, and with singular they i gave examples where you cant" [23:06] matey because thats how much rms thinks about grammar [23:06] matey meanwhile he misses the fact that people use singular they all the time and y2k doesnt happen [23:07] DaemonFC MinceR, IBM invests a billion dollars into Linux. [23:07] matey its an imperect language [23:07] chicksahoy I feel that people will use anything but she/her to describe a trans woman [23:07] matey moreso when im typing it. [23:07] immibis ihr = you (plural) (informal) (nominative) = her (possessive) = your (possessive) [23:07] DaemonFC Also, Linux distros after the investment: Bombed out city that's had missiles falling on it all week. [23:07] DaemonFC mjg59_ thinks I'm "transphobic" whatever that is. [23:07] matey I feel that people will use anything but she/her to describe a trans woman <- uses she her with trans women all the time [23:08] DaemonFC The truth is I just really don't give a shit. [23:08] chicksahoy matey: thank you :) [23:08] schestowitz [23:07] MinceR, IBM invests a billion dollars into Linux. [23:08] schestowitz Is IBM a charity? [23:08] matey ibm is a scam [23:08] immibis = her (dative) her (nominative/accusative) [23:08] schestowitz ICBM [23:09] DaemonFC When people start telling me what I "have to do", then there's pushback. [23:09] immibis DaemonFC: You have to call me "he" [23:09] chicksahoy i use fedora even though its ICBM/Redhat [23:09] DaemonFC Like, if you ask me to refer to you as "her" or "she" or whatever, I will. [23:09] matey im sorry [23:09] DaemonFC If the government comes in and says I have to or else, then I won't. I just won't. [23:09] immibis DaemonFC: do you push back against calling me "he"? [23:09] DaemonFC I hate the government. I hate being told what I "must" do. [23:10] immibis DaemonFC: do you drive on the wrong side of the road? [23:10] DaemonFC It's nothing personal. [23:10] DaemonFC DaemonFC: do you drive on the wrong side of the road? [23:10] DaemonFC Well, driving on the wrong side of the road is provable and likely to cause me harm somehow. [23:10] DaemonFC So no. [23:10] chicksahoy immibis: he rides his bike on the wrong side of the road [23:10] immibis It's also something the government says you must do. [23:11] immibis must not do, rather [23:11] DaemonFC I may have broken the traffic laws before.....but driving the wrong way....I can't recall ever doing that. [23:11] DaemonFC I mean, it's kind of hard to when there are RED SIGNS. [23:11] immibis I thought you hated doing what the government told you to do [23:12] immibis Red signs are just the government telling you what to do [23:12] DaemonFC Like I said, I comply sometimes if it would cause me more of a problem than if I didn't. [23:12] DaemonFC But I do despise the government. [23:12] DaemonFC And I don't like being told what to do. [23:12] matey dont lets be beastly to fedora, it really is a lovely piece of kit [23:12] immibis DaemonFC: Do you like the government telling you you must put your poop in the sewer? [23:12] chicksahoy matey: thank you again, i love fedora [23:13] matey we shouldnt sign up to post to their fora, and say the devs are all a bunch of dicks [23:13] DaemonFC Well, when you've gotta go you've gotta go. [23:13] DaemonFC Like the bums in San Francisco. [23:13] XRevan86 matterbridge supports Opus for Mumble [23:13] immibis DaemonFC: Do you like the government telling you that you must put your poop in the sewer? [23:14] DaemonFC Instead of solving social issue, Matt Gulag supports a government that does "pee reflecting paint" in the subway tunnel. [23:14] TR News The first Asahi Linux alpha release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162724#comment-33112 [23:14] TR Bot The first Asahi Linux Alpha Release is here! | Tux Machines [23:14] XRevan86 Ah, it's just a stub, never mind. [23:14] immibis DaemonFC: Do you like the government telling you that you must put your poop in the sewer? [23:14] mjg59_ chicksahoy: I'm a Fedora developer, but haven't really been active for a while [23:14] TR News Steam Deck hits over 1,500 titles either Verified or Playable | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-hits-over-1500-titles-either-verified-or-playable [23:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-hits-over-1500-titles-either-verified-or-playable [23:14] TR Bot Deck hits over 1,500 titles either Verified or Playable | GamingOnLinux [23:14] DaemonFC It's not inconvenient for me to shit in a toilet so I guess I've never really thought about it in those terms. [23:14] chicksahoy mjg59_: i read your post about uefi secure boot and im happy that fedora works on those systems [23:15] DaemonFC But I have gone to the bathroom outside before when there was nobody around. [23:15] immibis DaemonFC: It's not inconvenient for you to call women "she", either [23:15] matey mjg59_ is setting a good example [23:15] immibis but you still complain [23:15] DaemonFC Or in a drink container in the car when I didn't feel like pulling over. [23:15] DaemonFC Open the door later. Dump it out. [23:15] TR News Steam Deck Has A TON of Great Apps In Desktop Mode! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HSaiR9ve4fY #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/03/19/#latest [23:15] TR Bot Steam Deck Has A TON of Great Apps In Desktop Mode! - Invidious [23:15] immibis DaemonFC: Do you hate that the government tells you not to do that? [23:15] TR Bot Social Control Media Posts [23:15] matey sure hes a fedora developer but hes inactive [23:15] matey its a good compromise [23:15] TR News The 5 Best Linux Smartphones of 2022 - Linux on the Go Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162751 [23:15] TR Bot The 5 Best Linux Smartphones of 2022 - Linux on the Go | Tux Machines [23:16] DaemonFC What? Rolling the window down and pouring a cup of piss out? [23:16] DaemonFC I don't care. [23:16] chicksahoy DaemonFC: no, piss jugs! [23:16] immibis DaemonFC: Do you go out of your way to piss on the road, just because the government tells you to piss in the toilet? [23:16] DaemonFC I wouldn't say that. [23:16] mjg59_ But you would go out of your way to misgender people [23:16] mjg59_ Interesting [23:16] chicksahoy mjg59_: <3 [23:17] mjg59_ Seems like it's not just because of whether or not the government tells you to [23:17] immibis It's almost like your problem is with trans people specifically, and not with the government telling you to do stuff. [23:17] DaemonFC The only one I've developed an intense personal disgust of is "Uncle Keith". I've said the story enough times. [23:17] mjg59_ So why do you misgender other people? [23:17] DaemonFC He's not even trans. No psychiatrist would say he was a candidate so he went and did it in Manitoba. [23:17] mjg59_ (Or threaten to do so) [23:18] immibis fair enough, but then you say it about all trans people [23:18] XRevan86 mjg59_: Seems like DaemonFC has a distaste for one particular person, and then extrapolates from that. [23:19] *XRevan86 would rather not hear the same story about an uncle multiple times. [23:19] schestowitz can we get back to tech? [23:19] schestowitz a couple of trolls here intentionally change the subject [23:20] immibis say something about tech then [23:20] mjg59_ Yeah, some troll keeps making shit up about my motivations [23:20] XRevan86 https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/releases/tag/v1.24.1 New release, yay? [23:20] TR Bot matterbridge v1.24.1 42wim/matterbridge GitHub [23:20] mjg59_ And then changes the subject when asked to justify it [23:20] immibis apparently forcing people to release their GPL source means you're a microsoft shill? [23:20] XRevan86 (#DeleteGitHub and everything) [23:20] mjg59_ It's some galaxy brain thinking, yeah [23:21] DaemonFC The DMCA has been an incredibly unfortunate law that was passed by trolls who wanted to attack people in order to own and control everything. [23:21] DaemonFC If there is a way to thwart it, you should. [23:21] immibis how can you think black people are genetically criminals and also think the DMCA is bad. That's such a weird combination of opinions. [23:22] mjg59_ The DMCA is bad, but the time I used it against the MPAA was good [23:22] TR News GNUnet 0.16.2 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162752 [23:22] TR Bot GNUnet 0.16.2 | Tux Machines [23:22] DaemonFC So guns can be good if you shoot criminals with them? [23:22] immibis oh how did you get to use the DMCA against the MPAA? [23:22] immibis DaemonFC: Yes. That's why we're sending weapons to Ukraine. [23:22] immibis probably better for nobody to shoot anyone [23:23] mjg59_ https://fudzilla.com/news/1785-riaa-forced-to-take-down-anti-pirate-tool [23:23] TR Bot RIAA forced to take down anti-pirate tool [23:23] mjg59_ Headline says RIAA, but is wrong [23:23] immibis lol congrats [23:23] mjg59_ https://www.theregister.com/2007/12/04/mpaa_copyright_petard_hoisting/ is a better source [23:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2007/12/04/mpaa_copyright_petard_hoisting/ [23:23] TR Bot MPAA's uni piracy-busting toolkit forced offline The Register [23:23] immibis MPAA violates copyright. Did they get a $10,000,000,000,000,000 fine? [23:23] DaemonFC So if I buy a gun and use it to shoot someone who is cutting the catalytic converter off of my car, that's good. I've stopped a bad guy, permanently. [23:24] DaemonFC Odds are, you give this person a million second chances in court, they'd never be reformed. [23:24] immibis DaemonFC: No, but if you use it to shoot someone who's going around shooting people, it's good [23:24] DaemonFC They just go back to taking what's not theirs from people who can barely afford to fix the damage they cause. [23:24] mjg59_ immibis: I was a student at the time, so didn't have the resources to take it any further [23:24] immibis if you use it to intimidate the person stealing your catalytic converter, that's good on balance [23:24] immibis dying is worse than losing a catalytic converter though [23:25] TR News "A few weeks ago Lapsus claimed to hack Nvidia and take 1tb of data, they claimed they'd release it but since then nothing has happened, but they haven't been sitting around leaving other companies alone." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0J9UuXrqtNM [23:25] TR Bot Nvidia Hackers Ban People Asking For Nvidia Leak - Invidious [23:25] mjg59_ Anyway I guess daemonfc would say that preventing the MPAA distributing GPL-violating software that was going to be used to spy on students was actually me helping out Microsoft [23:25] DaemonFC A week ago, a police dog caught a catalytic converter thief and bit the fuck out of him. I lol'd. [23:26] TR News "We discuss Bill's struggles with Windows and his venture into using Pop!_OS. We provide some ideas on adding a second drive to a Linux machine for dual-booting, running Windows programs without Windows, and problems with backups using rsync." https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp421 [23:26] TR Bot Going Linux Shownotes [23:26] DaemonFC At least when the liberal lunatic in the black robe lets him go, he'll have some nice dog bite injuries. [23:26] TR News USA: we only want you for your sweatshops, China https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/fcc_pacific_networks_comnet/ [23:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/fcc_pacific_networks_comnet/ [23:26] TR Bot Pacific Networks given 60 days to leave the US The Register [23:27] DaemonFC Anyway I guess daemonfc would say that preventing the MPAA distributing GPL-violating software that was going to be used to spy on students was actually me helping out Microsoft [23:27] DaemonFC Which software did they use instead? [23:27] mjg59_ They dropped the program entirely, as far as I can tell [23:27] DaemonFC Doubtful. [23:27] mjg59_ No universities reported receiving replacements [23:28] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Did doing that benefit Microsoft? [23:28] immibis they didn't just comply with the GPL... probably because they think copyright is a tool to extort billions from random victims. [23:28] DaemonFC Anyway, people on public wifi networks should figure they're being spied on and deploy countermeasures, you know? [23:28] TR News Reddit = corporate AstroTurf club https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/03/19/359/ [23:28] TR Bot Is r/linux a cult of deranged hallucinogen addicts? Are they dangerous? | systemd-free linux community [23:28] DaemonFC If you're being spied on by your own ISP (you are), why figure public wifi is safe? [23:29] mjg59_ 22:40 < DaemonFC> Only when it was to shut down companies that competed with Microsoft. [23:29] mjg59_ I've just given you an obvious counterexample (the MPAA does not compete with Microsoft). Was your claim accurate? [23:30] TR News Setup Secure SSH Access on Linux Servers using Teleport - kifarunix.com

    Read more [23:30] TR Bot Secure SSH Access on Linux Servers using Teleport - kifarunix.com [23:31] DaemonFC To be clear, I absolutely don't think that the MPAA should have been stopped from doing that thing by the DMCA....... For the record, I think the MPAA should be stopped from doing anything with a series of cruise missile strikes against their headquarters and any lawyer's office that has ever worked with them. Unfortunately, that's unrealistic, I know. But you wanted an opinion. [23:32] DaemonFC Bill Clinton blew up a pharmaceutical factory with a cruise missile. That was a crime against humanity, you know. [23:33] DaemonFC There's people out there who actually deserve such a thing. [23:33] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Was your claim that I only engage in GPL enforcement to shut down companies that competed with Microsoft accurate? [23:33] TR News Stiffing or shortages? "Contract chip manufacturers grew revenue in the fourth quarter of last calendar year largely by raising the prices of wafers in the face of overloaded factories as the semiconductor industry continued its breakneck pace." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/wafer_prices_semiconductor/ [23:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/wafer_prices_semiconductor/ [23:33] TR Bot Rising wafer prices lift revenues at chip foundries The Register [23:34] DaemonFC In my opinion, there was no real need to attack a company that sold cheap Linux tablets other than wanting to see Microsoft succeed more. [23:34] TR News Repairing TheJoystick for TheC64 - CubicleNates Techpad https://cubiclenate.com/2022/03/19/repairing-thejoystick-for-thec64/ [23:34] TR Bot TheJoystick for TheC64 CubicleNate's Techpad [23:34] immibis what about wanting source code for your linux tablets? [23:34] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Was your claim accurate? [23:34] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Because what I'm hearing at the moment is you failing to justify the claim but also refusing to admit that you were incorrect [23:35] DaemonFC I've only ever witnessed you doing things that are for the ultimate benefit of Microsoft, somehow. [23:35] TR News fish 3.4.0 (released March 12, 2022) https://fishshell.com/docs/current/relnotes.html [23:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: fishshell.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fishshell.com/docs/current/relnotes.html [23:35] TR Bot Release notes fish-shell 3.4.0 documentation [23:35] DaemonFC Putting them in a better position to exploit computer users and the market in general. [23:35] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Was your claim accurate? [23:35] MinceR 19 233349 < immibis> DaemonFC: why do you want to murder little children? [23:36] MinceR are the terrorussians using little children in their invasion army already? [23:36] TR News Ubuntu 22.04 Switching to GNOME 42, with One Click Full Dark / Light, Accent Colors Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162754 [23:36] TR Bot Ubuntu 22.04 Switching to GNOME 42, with One Click Full Dark / Light, Accent Colors | Tux Machines [23:36] DaemonFC I haven't heard anything about Putin using child soldiers, but I suppose he might be. [23:36] DaemonFC It's probably what comes next at this rate. They're losing people fast in the invasion. [23:37] activelow https://www.dw.com/en/wounded-russian-soldiers-fill-belarusian-hospitals/a-61181434 [23:37] TR Bot Russian soldiers fill Belarusian hospitals | Europe | News and current affairs from around the continent | DW | 19.03.2022 [23:37] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Do you accept that your claim was inaccurate, or can you provide evidence to support it? [23:38] immibis MinceR: he said to murder all russians [23:38] DaemonFC The only way that it would be better for a Russian soldier to be wounded would be if they are maimed to the point where they will be a burden on Russia and cannot be re-deployed. [23:38] MinceR i would hope they use their large children before the little children [23:38] immibis all russians, no exceptions [23:38] MinceR immibis: he said "ALL Russians who come across the border" [23:38] mjg59_ Ok so daemonfc has clearly given up on attempting to justify his claim about my behaviour and you should probably assume that anything else he claims about me is similarly inaccurate [23:39] mjg59_ I don't know why he keeps making up stuff to criticise me with - there's plenty of legitimate things to disagree with me on [23:39] mjg59_ (Roy's claims about me are of similar accuracy) [23:39] DaemonFC Mr. Gulag on his ShitHub doing his ridiculous "kernel lockdown" crap that no user really wants. [23:39] DaemonFC You turn off Security Theater Boot, and Hibernate works again, among other things. [23:40] DaemonFC Even if that mess ever gets merged to where it works with Security Theater Boot, it adds complexity and likely bugs as well. [23:40] schestowitz-TR mjg59_: welcome to the hospital. make yourself feel at home. You are... [23:40] schestowitz-TR oops [23:40] schestowitz-TR to MinceR [23:40] schestowitz-TR Belarus didn't even fight the invader [23:40] DaemonFC So you'd have to stick a big fat warning label on it that it's not fit for production use until we know how and when it corrupts data. [23:41] immibis MinceR: yup so nobody is allowed to escape putin [23:41] schestowitz-TR will be be put in [23:41] schestowitz-TR the hospital [23:41] MinceR are russian civilians escaping via ukraine? [23:41] immibis schestowitz-TR: you are talking about non-tech [23:41] MinceR seems like an unnecessarily dangerous route [23:41] XRevan86 MinceR: no [23:41] MinceR immibis: so are you [23:41] XRevan86 It is. [23:41] DaemonFC Scrolls halfway down....sees Lukashenko in a military costume. [23:41] immibis but I don't always complain about other people talking about non-tech [23:42] schestowitz-TR yeah, sorry, I was responding to something [23:42] DaemonFC Why do politicians have to dress up in military costumes? [23:42] immibis dictators do [23:42] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: What does this have to do with tech? [23:42] schestowitz-TR immibis: the topic some people try to pull in would intentionally let them demonise the site [23:42] immibis MinceR: some were going across and defecting [23:42] DaemonFC They had W in a flight suit for his Mission Accomplished speech. [23:43] DaemonFC He hadn't flown a military plane since he was in a unit for celebrities in the Texas Air National Guard to avoid the draft. [23:43] schestowitz-TR the Russian invasion is about tech in some aspect [23:43] schestowitz-TR but not the hospital aspect [23:43] DaemonFC And even THEN it wouldn't have had any modern planes. [23:43] MinceR immibis: i've heard some russian soldiers put down their weapons and defected [23:43] DaemonFC immibis: i've heard some russian soldiers put down their weapons and defected [23:43] DaemonFC What do they have to go back for? [23:43] XRevan86 MinceR: Quite a lot. [23:44] MinceR DaemonFC: nothing [23:44] MinceR putler's regime has people beaten and imprisoned for protesting against his war [23:44] DaemonFC Yeah, he gave them an opportunity to escape. [23:44] DaemonFC Sounds like they made good use of it. [23:45] immibis DaemonFC: like I said, dictators. And ones who are actually in the military force, of course [23:45] DaemonFC Sergei Lavrov is proving he's delusional. [23:46] DaemonFC Russia MAY get a guarantee of Ukrainian neutrality to end the war. [23:46] MinceR hopefully not [23:46] MinceR that would be effectively a loss for ukraine [23:46] immibis this is telling the arsonist you promise not to buy a fire extinguisher, in exchange for the arsonist promising not to burn down your house [23:46] MinceR then again, i suppose the west could still strangle terrorussia with sanctions after officially ending the war [23:46] MinceR lol, yes [23:47] MinceR especially after he's already burned down two of your houses [23:47] immibis why would the arsonist care about that, if he wasn't going to take advantage of your lack of a fire extinguisher to burn down your house anyway? [23:47] TR News "tech" has become very broken gemini://midnight.pub/posts/849 [23:47] DaemonFC Other countries that were neutral are now scrambling to join NATO. [23:47] DaemonFC So Russia will still have NATO at their front door. [23:48] immibis They already did, anyway. [23:48] TR News " I survived the week minus my boss. He's my deflector shield from senior management grand* ideas. He is the diplomat, I just tell 'em "no - daft idea"." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/850 [23:48] immibis After arson attack, arsonist's neighbours all gain fire extinguishers. [23:48] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@sy7ss5msyeqgk.irc) has joined #techrights [23:49] TR News "In my last video on AppImages, I got a lot of comments about how AppImages can't be updated." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V3i1R8qrGAg [23:49] TR Bot Want To Update Your AppImages? Try These Tools! - Invidious [23:49] XRevan86 DaemonFC: This would've been the outcome even if Russia had succeeded in crushing Ukraine in a few days. [23:49] TR News 190: Asahi Linux, Stream Deck for Linux, AMD FSR, Steam on ChromeOS, Windows Ads and more Linux news - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-190/ [23:49] TR Bot Asahi Linux, Stream Deck for Linux, AMD FSR, Steam on ChromeOS, Windows Ads and more Linux news - TuxDigital [23:50] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Which kind of implies that Putin never actually cared about it, it's just a pretext. [23:50] MinceR maybe he did care, but he's too stupid or full of his own propaganda to realize it [23:51] XRevan86 One guess I have is that he wants recognition of Crimea as Russian at any cost. [23:52] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ladys-cocks.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/05/schlong-or-short/ ) [23:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ladys-cocks.jpg [23:52] XRevan86 A lot of people also talk about that maybe it's because he hated seeing Ukraine succeed after throwing away a corrupt president. [23:52] TR Bot Schlong or short [23:52] matey strategic use of the law against itself makse sense on a case-by-case basis [23:52] MinceR i don't see how this could possibly lead to that [23:52] matey the gpl relies on copyright [23:52] XRevan86 Hard to tell what's really going on in his head. [23:53] TR News Free Software Awards winners announced: SecuRepairs, Protesilaos Stavrou, Paul Eggert Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162755 [23:53] MinceR does copyleft even still work? [23:53] matey as someone who would rather abolish copyright thats probably alright, provided x y z [23:53] TR Bot Free Software Awards winners announced: SecuRepairs, Protesilaos Stavrou, Paul Eggert | Tux Machines [23:53] MinceR megacorporate parasites took over the Linux Foundation and violate its license with impunity [23:53] matey does copyleft even still work? a. good question b. probably c. MOSTLY its corporate shills asking d. no, that doesnt include you, but its worth mentioning [23:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:53] MinceR with the dbugs hole, GPL can be downgraded to LGPL [23:54] matey i have my own misgivings about it, but its hard to talk about the pros and cons of copyleft when the shills are already doing it [23:54] XRevan86 MinceR: Whether Putin actually cares about the things he says he cares about is lower than 50%, because he prefers to lie by default. [23:54] matey im actually more optimistic than a lot of the copyleft naysayers [23:54] matey but theyre not all shills [23:54] MinceR i think everyone in the community has business asking, because we do pay for the alleged protection of copyleft, e.g. by being limited from mixing various free software together [23:54] immibis MinceR: do people sue people for violating it? [23:54] MinceR \_()_/ [23:54] matey i think everyone in the community has business asking <- yes i agree [23:55] MinceR Hellwig v VMware also suggests that it's not effective anymore [23:55] schestowitz-TR there are shaming tactics [23:55] matey by being limited from mixing various free software together <- yes, this too [23:55] immibis XRevan86: everything Putin says is a pretext. He (or his ghostwriter) is a master of propaganda, inherited from the soviet union apparently [23:55] schestowitz-TR esp. for large corporations that do it at a large scale [23:55] schestowitz-TR Microsoft did too [23:55] schestowitz-TR Samsung.. [23:55] matey Hellwig v VMware <- i put less stock in Hellwig v VMware than i do in copyrightable apis [23:55] schestowitz-TR then they cought up the code [23:55] schestowitz-TR or some of it [23:55] matey im more worried about copyrightable apis [23:55] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [23:55] schestowitz-TR in the case of vmware, they run away [23:55] XRevan86 immibis: "inherited from the soviet union apparently" <- Hm, don't know if that's correct. [23:56] matey but chances are that problem will disappear eventually (fingers crossed) [23:56] matey its not like we have enough to say to push it anywhere [23:56] matey enough say in the matter ^ [23:56] immibis XRevan86: the soviet union had a lot of repression, propaganda, corruption, etc, did it not? [23:56] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2qj25x6d3cy5n.irc) has joined #techrights [23:56] XRevan86 But a lot of methods are the same, yea. [23:56] matey immibis : at least under stalin [23:56] TR News The 8 Best DAW Apps for Music Production on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162756 [23:57] matey not intended exclusively [23:57] immibis that someone who grew up in that era, learned it, and worked in the propaganda agencies is still applying it to us and we don't even realize, is not surprising [23:57] matey i seem to recall some wall... [23:57] TR Bot The 8 Best DAW Apps for Music Production on Linux | Tux Machines [23:57] matey that someone who grew up in that era, learned it, and worked in the propaganda agencies <- fascists have propaganda too [23:57] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@sy7ss5msyeqgk.irc) has joined #techrights [23:57] XRevan86 immibis: His work didn't involve propaganda per se. [23:57] matey bernays literally wrote the book on it [23:57] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [23:58] immibis matey: were putin and stalin not fascists? [23:58] matey were putin and stalin not fascists? <- no theyre bonapartists [23:58] matey its similar [23:58] matey stalin made pacts with literal fascists, he was in bed with them [23:59] matey but it was all strategic (ie very stupid) [23:59] MinceR according to the presentation of a historian i watched yesterday (in hungarian), terrorussia complies with a set of 4 criteria for fascism [23:59] matey stalin realised (incorrectly) that the state had to be protected AT ALL COSTS [23:59] matey the state is supposed to wither away under marxism. stalin was a fucking idiot. [23:59] matey but a dangerous one [23:59] XRevan86 Putin just protects himself.