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DaemonFC[m] | 3232-bit x86 has been on borrowed time for years. | Sep 19 01:44 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I'm surprised Windows 10 still supports it. | Sep 19 01:44 |
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DaemonFC[m] | What could possibly be the use for that? | Sep 19 01:44 |
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anthk_ | https://mobile.twitter.com/devfusediboot/status/1174471989991530496 | Sep 19 03:25 |
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anthk_ | I just can't... | Sep 19 03:25 |
anthk_ | seriously | Sep 19 03:25 |
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schestowitz | anthk_: just read most of it | Sep 19 05:26 |
schestowitz | typical anti-FS argument | Sep 19 05:27 |
schestowitz | with the game makers' like | Sep 19 05:27 |
schestowitz | FOSSPatents uses that also | Sep 19 05:27 |
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anthk_ | https://mobile.twitter.com/lethargilistic/status/1172304171908780032 | Sep 19 05:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Twitter | Sep 19 05:37 | |
anthk_ | now it understands. Thanks, sherlock, as if it wasn't obvious | Sep 19 05:37 |
schestowitz | van you please paste without mobile in URL? | Sep 19 05:37 |
schestowitz | It would then expand it | Sep 19 05:37 |
schestowitz | I know it does spying without it | Sep 19 05:37 |
schestowitz | but manually we can edit | Sep 19 05:37 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lethargilistic/status/1172304171908780032 | Sep 19 05:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lethargilistic: I un-retweeted Sarah Mei's post of this because she later turned the thread into a list of general grievances again… https://t.co/tXQE0PeeKO | Sep 19 05:37 | |
anthk_ | https://twitter.com/lethargilistic/status/1172304171908780032 | Sep 19 05:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lethargilistic: I un-retweeted Sarah Mei's post of this because she later turned the thread into a list of general grievances again… https://t.co/tXQE0PeeKO | Sep 19 05:37 | |
schestowitz | those are not FS people | Sep 19 05:38 |
schestowitz | ah, url pasted twice would be detected as dupe :-) | Sep 19 05:38 |
anthk_ | no, I mean at least he realized that the purge is extending | Sep 19 05:39 |
anthk_ | Alexandre Oliva is on the radar | Sep 19 05:39 |
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schestowitz | Richard Stallman yesterday: "Stop Engaging with Online Trolls altogether, Public Figures Say. | Sep 19 05:51 |
schestowitz | "As my experience shows, sometimes a troll storm does not depend on publicity from the victim." http://stallman.org/ | Sep 19 05:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Richard Stallman's Personal Page | Sep 19 05:51 | |
schestowitz | anthk_: I like Alex | Sep 19 05:51 |
schestowitz | he likes us back | Sep 19 05:51 |
schestowitz | always been very supportive of us | Sep 19 05:51 |
schestowitz | maybe he's the one on the Board who, based on what I heard, vetoes and sided with Richard | Sep 19 05:52 |
anthk_ | brb, 'gonna install Hyperbola | Sep 19 05:53 |
schestowitz | cheers and good luck | Sep 19 05:53 |
anthk_ | maybe I'll suggest the pkg-readmes policy from OpenBSD under Hyperbola | Sep 19 05:53 |
anthk_ | so the user can read post-install chores in order how to setup, for example, xfce | Sep 19 05:54 |
schestowitz | don't rush to BSD camp | Sep 19 05:56 |
schestowitz | I wrote about it last week | Sep 19 05:57 |
schestowitz | in light of some talks about the RMS MS talk | Sep 19 05:57 |
anthk_ | I like openbsd's design on security, and lots of stuff | Sep 19 05:57 |
schestowitz | RMS will write about it today | Sep 19 05:57 |
schestowitz | I will repost his essay | Sep 19 05:57 |
anthk_ | freebsd is worse, is basically OSX' bitch | Sep 19 05:57 |
schestowitz | yeah, but BSD takes us further away | Sep 19 05:57 |
anthk_ | openbsd at least feed themselves | Sep 19 05:57 |
schestowitz | away from what corporations cannot control/exploit | Sep 19 05:57 |
anthk_ | the gpl won't save us on that too | Sep 19 05:58 |
schestowitz | openbsd would not change the world in the way devs need | Sep 19 05:58 |
anthk_ | that's true | Sep 19 05:58 |
schestowitz | the GPL is under a massive attack for decades | Sep 19 05:58 |
anthk_ | but as I said a lot of policies are being ported to hyperbola | Sep 19 05:58 |
schestowitz | Black Duck etc. | Sep 19 05:58 |
schestowitz | And it's losing, I think | Sep 19 05:58 |
schestowitz | years of FUD and GitHub takeover etc. | Sep 19 05:58 |
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anthk_ | w/ openbsd at least some simillar stuff was recommended, but at least on privacy | Sep 19 06:01 |
anthk_ | they knew some shady stuff of even ffox and chrome, at least on its defaults | Sep 19 06:01 |
schestowitz | I like openbsd | Sep 19 06:03 |
anthk_ | I know bsd's are not the same, but I wont touch freebsd even over a NAS | Sep 19 06:03 |
schestowitz | they make good things like openssh | Sep 19 06:03 |
anthk_ | his security defaults were atrocious | Sep 19 06:03 |
schestowitz | but again, don't swallow their whole stack at GPL's expense, you know who would benefit | Sep 19 06:04 |
schestowitz | Everything with N, like NAS, is under pressure to backdoor | Sep 19 06:04 |
schestowitz | If not intentionally then social engineering (moles) | Sep 19 06:04 |
anthk_ | uh, I used pf with unbound and I made my beast anti ad/surveillance blocker | Sep 19 06:05 |
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anthk_ | but ofc the gnu folks have nicer stuff | Sep 19 06:05 |
anthk_ | such as icecat and so on | Sep 19 06:05 |
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MinceR | freebsd has a CoC, just like linux, but from earlier | Sep 19 06:23 |
anthk_ | freebsd is apple's junkyard almost literally | Sep 19 06:23 |
anthk_ | the quality went down a lot since the late 90's | Sep 19 06:23 |
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anthk_ | ok non-free wireless | Sep 19 07:28 |
anthk_ | I have an adapter with no fw crap somewhere | Sep 19 07:28 |
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schestowitz | >> told me that bkuhn wrote the whole thing. He should | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | >> know. He's sure. | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > Ok. That's all internal though. If some public confession were made by | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > Bradley or some material published by the board, that could be | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > circulated widely. | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | I will not write this in TR as that might cause a bad 'witch hunt' against Kuhn and it would go nowhere good. | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > Along those lines, is this page being kept up to date? | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122 | Sep 19 08:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 19 08:40 | |
schestowitz | > | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > It will be very important to have a one-stop page containing links to as | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > many articles as possible, both the good and the all too many bad ones, | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > to help RMS and the FSF later as the dust settles. For one, it is a | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > classic case of yellow journalism, not checking sources, and a twitter | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > lynch mob. There are many around the world that would be able to dig | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | > into that. | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | The only omission is shite like "Tweets"; | Sep 19 08:40 |
schestowitz | By the way, the "remove Stallman" lady "liked" some of my tweets; I don't take that for anything other than self-publicity opportunism from her. She only has about 60 "followers". | Sep 19 08:40 |
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MrGreenFriend | “we dont need another smarmy corporate sycophant yes man to take over the fsf, as open source would propose.” | Sep 19 10:55 |
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anthk_ | got hyperbola installed | Sep 19 13:17 |
anthk_ | updated to the future LTS release | Sep 19 13:17 |
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schestowitz | anthk_: morning | Sep 19 15:42 |
schestowitz | well done | Sep 19 15:42 |
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zoobab | IBM as a bully | Sep 19 16:01 |
zoobab | https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Patent.pdf | Sep 19 16:01 |
schestowitz | summary? | Sep 19 16:01 |
zoobab | I think most of those 7 old sw patents were used to extract money from Groupon | Sep 19 16:01 |
schestowitz | can you give em the short story to talk about? | Sep 19 16:01 |
schestowitz | Groupon action is odl | Sep 19 16:01 |
schestowitz | Maybe Groupon is appealing? | Sep 19 16:01 |
schestowitz | I thought they had setttled | Sep 19 16:02 |
zoobab | it is old, but in there IBM had patents over a diff between 2 lists | Sep 19 16:02 |
zoobab | one client side, one server side | Sep 19 16:02 |
zoobab | doomed | Sep 19 16:02 |
zoobab | probably they settled | Sep 19 16:02 |
zoobab | but I will read the 7 patents in full, but they look awfully trivial | Sep 19 16:02 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16027568 | Sep 19 16:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ibm bullying with #patents (moments ago) https://pastebin.com/kps987YN | Sep 19 16:04 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> [16:01] <zoobab> IBM as a bully [16:01] <zoobab> https://www.courthousenews.c - Pastebin.com | Sep 19 16:04 | |
schestowitz | I don't have much time to probe it right now | Sep 19 16:04 |
schestowitz | family staying | Sep 19 16:04 |
zoobab | applications could then be composed on the fly from objects stored locallyon the PC, reducing reliance on Prodigy’s server and network resources. | Sep 19 16:04 |
zoobab | enjoy family | Sep 19 16:04 |
schestowitz | is there a new element to it? | Sep 19 16:06 |
schestowitz | if not, then it is not urgent | Sep 19 16:07 |
schestowitz | wiring about epo at the moment | Sep 19 16:08 |
schestowitz | as you can tell from my dents/etc. I'm well behind | Sep 19 16:09 |
schestowitz | have to cull out less important stories at the moment | Sep 19 16:09 |
schestowitz | zoobab: http://techrights.org/2019/09/19/epo-threat-to-eu-and-law/ | Sep 19 16:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When the EPO Sees Itself as Above European Law, Grants Patents in Defiance of the EPC (Its Founding Document) and Violates Staff’s Labour Rights/Protections (International Law) | Techrights | Sep 19 16:43 | |
schestowitz | more to come | Sep 19 16:43 |
schestowitz | this is very important imho | Sep 19 16:43 |
schestowitz | i also quoted you | Sep 19 16:43 |
schestowitz | zoobab: post microblogging stuff with the ket points re the above link re ibm | Sep 19 16:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Noi686Repositories | Sep 19 16:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Changes/Noi686Repositories - Fedora Project Wiki | Sep 19 16:49 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Users could still conceivably build their own 32-bit kernels if the i686 repo remained. | Sep 19 16:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | And use "Fedora 31" that way. | Sep 19 16:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Tsk tsk. Can't have that. | Sep 19 16:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | It would be totally at your own risk, but would probably work. | Sep 19 16:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm guessing that eventually, Fedora will do what Ubuntu is doing and pare down the multiarch thing to just the 32-bit libs that Steam and Wine need in order to work. | Sep 19 16:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ubuntu's position is that if you need other libs, you could always just use Snap and package them yourself with your application. | Sep 19 16:52 |
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r_schestowitz | weird | Sep 19 18:40 |
r_schestowitz | network manager keeps adding tun0 | Sep 19 18:40 |
r_schestowitz | even when I delete it | Sep 19 18:40 |
r_schestowitz | maybe some bug or 'feature' added since the last reboot | Sep 19 18:40 |
r_schestowitz | who the heck knows... but it's really annoying | Sep 19 18:40 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: A VPN connection is established by it? | Sep 19 18:42 |
r_schestowitz | seems so | Sep 19 18:43 |
r_schestowitz | not the one I even have | Sep 19 18:43 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Do you have nm-applet or something like it? | Sep 19 18:43 |
r_schestowitz | maybe | Sep 19 18:44 |
XRevan86 | "nmcli c" should show it anyway | Sep 19 18:44 |
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XRevan86 | schestowitz: A GUI front-end should show if a VPN is active. And allow deleting it. | Sep 19 18:46 |
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XRevan86 | And then you can do "nmcli c delete tun0" | Sep 19 18:50 |
XRevan86 | or maybe "nmcli d delete tun0" | Sep 19 18:51 |
XRevan86 | it's probably all the same | Sep 19 18:51 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Does that help? | Sep 19 18:51 |
r_schestowitz | roy@ted:~$ nmcli d delete tun0 | Sep 19 18:52 |
r_schestowitz | Device 'tun0' successfully removed. | Sep 19 18:52 |
XRevan86 | yay :) | Sep 19 18:52 |
r_schestowitz | let's see if that sticks long... | Sep 19 18:52 |
XRevan86 | Do "nmcli c delete tun0" too, just in case. | Sep 19 18:53 |
XRevan86 | so that there are no left-overs | Sep 19 18:53 |
r_schestowitz | 296 root 20 0 7512 4096 3784 R 95.7 0.2 2:47.18 systemd-journal | Sep 19 18:55 |
r_schestowitz | wtf | Sep 19 18:55 |
r_schestowitz | takes a whole CPU core all the time | Sep 19 18:56 |
r_schestowitz | wtf | Sep 19 18:57 |
r_schestowitz | why is openvpn running on my machine? | Sep 19 18:57 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Maybe something actively writes into syslog… | Sep 19 18:57 |
XRevan86 | Maybe openvpn… | Sep 19 18:57 |
r_schestowitz | I stoped the openvpn process | Sep 19 18:57 |
r_schestowitz | I have not used it in ages | Sep 19 18:57 |
r_schestowitz | now the journal process is gone | Sep 19 18:58 |
r_schestowitz | bloody hell, I won't reboot again until I really have to (and I had to) | Sep 19 18:58 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'd reboot one more time just to be sure everything's sorted out :D | Sep 19 18:58 |
r_schestowitz | I lost hours of work the past 2 days | Sep 19 18:58 |
r_schestowitz | tuxmachines is behind | Sep 19 18:58 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: VPN through NM was probably OpenVPN | Sep 19 18:59 |
r_schestowitz | mental note to self: maybe it was openvpn creating tun0 again and again | Sep 19 18:59 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm not sure, maybe NM created tun0 for it. | Sep 19 18:59 |
XRevan86 | One way or another, it's gone now. | Sep 19 18:59 |
XRevan86 | doesn't matter which part of the chain did what | Sep 19 19:00 |
XRevan86 | What does matter is that you had VPN configured on NM with autoconnect on. | Sep 19 19:02 |
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r_schestowitz | " | Sep 19 19:06 |
r_schestowitz | Enjoy dear friend: https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/18/russia-sorm-nokia-surveillance/ | Sep 19 19:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Documents reveal how Russia taps phone companies for surveillance – TechCrunch | Sep 19 19:06 | |
r_schestowitz | 7:00 PM | Sep 19 19:06 |
r_schestowitz | " | Sep 19 19:06 |
r_schestowitz | someone sent me this | Sep 19 19:06 |
XRevan86 | I saw that :) | Sep 19 19:08 |
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r_schestowitz | former Nokia staff | Sep 19 19:08 |
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XRevan86 | schestowitz: The SORM itself is not exactly news… | Sep 19 19:16 |
XRevan86 | I guess notable the leak itself and the extent of the leak | Sep 19 19:16 |
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r_schestowitz | I had heard about that too | Sep 19 19:49 |
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XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/wg4EZW3_XuA?t=1378 | Sep 19 19:55 |
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aindilis | is there a single piece which details why Gates is more problematic wrt Epstein? | Sep 19 20:32 |
aindilis | I'm looking for something that doesn't attempt to exonerate RMS, but says, take em all down | Sep 19 20:36 |
r_schestowitz | what did you get told? | Sep 19 20:39 |
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aindilis | well I've experienced first hand how people are emotionally invested in this and making RMS a lightening rod for their frustrations with sexism in the tech industry | Sep 19 20:40 |
r_schestowitz | #proprietarysoftware logic: | Sep 19 20:41 |
r_schestowitz | If you say RMS is a "pervert" because of Minsky comments, then COOL! | Sep 19 20:41 |
r_schestowitz | If you bemoan #billgates for being mates with #epstein they call you jealous http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Sep 19 20:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Sep 19 20:41 | |
aindilis | so rather than try to defend RMS against these emotions which have been linked to him, I'd rather try to roll with the punches and channel this rage to others like Gates for their role with Epstein | Sep 19 20:43 |
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r_schestowitz | aindilis: both are possible, but | Sep 19 20:49 |
r_schestowitz | my point was to point out why they picked on him in the media | Sep 19 20:49 |
r_schestowitz | esp. the Murdoch media | Sep 19 20:49 |
r_schestowitz | it started with Vice | Sep 19 20:49 |
aindilis | right, oh no, I'm not criticizing you're strategy at all | Sep 19 20:49 |
aindilis | yeah I read | Sep 19 20:49 |
r_schestowitz | and I hadn't known News Corp. had bought it | Sep 19 20:50 |
aindilis | disgusting | Sep 19 20:50 |
r_schestowitz | before I knew I wrote to RMS, saying there was an effort to shift attention away from the Gates MIT scandal | Sep 19 20:50 |
r_schestowitz | Then came Fox News | Sep 19 20:50 |
r_schestowitz | New York Posy | Sep 19 20:50 |
r_schestowitz | Post | Sep 19 20:50 |
r_schestowitz | Also Murdoch | Sep 19 20:50 |
aindilis | https://www.foxnews.com/tech/microsoft-bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-meeting | Sep 19 20:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Microsoft's Bill Gates regrets Jeffrey Epstein meeting: 'I wish I hadn't' | Fox News | Sep 19 20:50 | |
r_schestowitz | he and Gates are very close | Sep 19 20:51 |
r_schestowitz | lol | Sep 19 20:51 |
r_schestowitz | Gates good | Sep 19 20:51 |
r_schestowitz | RMS = rape | Sep 19 20:51 |
r_schestowitz | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2893570/Engineer-employed-Bill-Gates-mansion-traded-6-000-child-sex-abuse-images-using-Gmail-account.html | Sep 19 20:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Engineer employed at Bill Gates' mansion 'traded 6k child sex abuse images' | Daily Mail Online | Sep 19 20:52 | |
aindilis | is there one about Gates Epstein airplane flight? | Sep 19 20:53 |
r_schestowitz | yes | Sep 19 20:54 |
r_schestowitz | the flight records | Sep 19 20:54 |
r_schestowitz | he's not denying it | Sep 19 20:54 |
r_schestowitz | me: | Sep 19 20:58 |
r_schestowitz | #billgates flew with #epstein on the #lolitaexpress | Sep 19 20:58 |
r_schestowitz | In fact, the flight records show it and he's not denying it | Sep 19 20:58 |
r_schestowitz | Where are the calls to "remove Gates" from #microsoft and #gatesfoundation ? | Sep 19 20:58 |
r_schestowitz | I'm waiting... | Sep 19 20:58 |
cubexyz | I'd settle for just removing M$ from most computers | Sep 19 21:00 |
r_schestowitz | At this stage the only (remaining) #billgates defenses are "I'm sorry" and "I regret" (it's in the media) | Sep 19 21:00 |
r_schestowitz | Not a good legal defense for such a serial criminal with a criminal track record | Sep 19 21:00 |
aindilis | damnit, sorry, what was the other one, Vice and ???Medium??? - brainfart | Sep 19 21:03 |
cubexyz | https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88 | Sep 19 21:03 |
XRevan86 | > Whoa.. if only someone had told them "hi owe tea" is shite on #security | Sep 19 21:03 |
*XRevan86 found an old video with schestowitz and listened to the accent %). h's are pronounced, so "here" still has a consonant at the start. | Sep 19 21:03 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remove Richard Stallman: Appendix A - Selam G. - Medium | Sep 19 21:03 | |
cubexyz | there's that one | Sep 19 21:03 |
XRevan86 | All because I didn't get the "hi owe tea" pun at first %). | Sep 19 21:03 |
MinceR | what's "hi owe tea"? | Sep 19 21:05 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: eye owe tea | Sep 19 21:05 |
XRevan86 | IoT | Sep 19 21:05 |
MinceR | oh, IoT | Sep 19 21:05 |
MinceR | the S in IoT stands for "security" | Sep 19 21:05 |
aindilis | Vice is part owned by Fox and Medium was it received money from someone? I cannot find it in the logs... | Sep 19 21:05 |
XRevan86 | cubexyz: Peculiar that part 1 doesn't list part problematic opinions, instead just linking to an external website. | Sep 19 21:06 |
XRevan86 | * list past | Sep 19 21:07 |
cubexyz | Stallman is pretty eccentric | Sep 19 21:07 |
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XRevan86 | And that uncritical linking also endorses that article | Sep 19 21:07 |
cubexyz | but I'd rather he stayed with FSF | Sep 19 21:07 |
aindilis | no it was the Verge, how are they M$ related? | Sep 19 21:07 |
XRevan86 | so the headline is perfectly fine? | Sep 19 21:08 |
cubexyz | one person's opinion | Sep 19 21:10 |
aindilis | okay, thanks guys, carry on! | Sep 19 21:10 |
MinceR | carrion | Sep 19 21:10 |
aindilis | lol | Sep 19 21:10 |
r_schestowitz | Mails leaked to News Corp.-owned Vice | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | odd | Sep 19 21:11 |
aindilis | how about, happy hacking! | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | " I leaked the full email thread, with names and contact information redacted, to Vice." | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [21:07] <aindilis> no it was the Verge, how are they M$ related? | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | Gates was their editor | Sep 19 21:11 |
aindilis | ty! | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> >> You can do analysis on this set if you have time, e.g. media ownership, | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> >> repeated phrases, timing... | Sep 19 21:11 |
XRevan86 | Oh well, that's the person who rephrased "presented herself to him as entirely willing" as "be entirely willing" | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > Rob Beschizza at Boingboing simply took The Verge piece as factual, | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > which it is not. | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > As you've pointed out, The Verge is M$ influenced: | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > https://www.theverge.com/2015/1/22/7870497/bill-gates-interview-future-verge-guest-editor | Sep 19 21:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Bill Gates is guest-editing The Verge in February | The Verge | Sep 19 21:11 | |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > and remains that way: | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > | Sep 19 21:11 |
r_schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> > https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/12/18220467/bill-gates-annual-letter-taxes-health-data-toilets-vergecast | Sep 19 21:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Bill Gates’ annual letter on The Vergecast: better data and better toilets - The Verge | Sep 19 21:12 | |
aindilis | I have time if you want to offload some text processing to me: <schestowitz> >> You can do analysis on this set if you have time, e.g. media ownership, | Sep 19 21:12 |
r_schestowitz | 52 updates: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122?page=1#comment-21753 | Sep 19 21:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 19 21:12 | |
r_schestowitz | kocck yourself out | Sep 19 21:12 |
r_schestowitz | IAC owns Daily Beat | Sep 19 21:12 |
r_schestowitz | One of the 4 that initially disseminated the lies | Sep 19 21:13 |
r_schestowitz | Chelsea Clinton on Board | Sep 19 21:13 |
r_schestowitz | the Gateses are personal friends of the Clinton, but that's as far as I can go | Sep 19 21:13 |
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