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● Feb 20
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR	boycott novell was a success
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR	novell died in 2010
[00:00]	Error	looks like need to read more more and more
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR	let me know of improvements
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR	I have spare time this weekend
[00:01]	Error	well is sunday tomorrow
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR	it's 00:01 here
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR	sunday
[00:01]	Error	but im really glad that i found this network
[00:01]	Error	oh im from uk 
[00:02]	Error	its 00:02 here
[00:02]	schestowitz-TR	[00:01] <Error> well is sunday tomorrow
[00:02]	schestowitz-TR	so you meant toda<y
[00:02]	Error	an i clock start when i wake up
[00:02]	Error	day wise
[00:02]	Error	i havent been to sleep yet
[00:02]	Error	;P so you know what i mean ;P
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	yes
[00:03]	kingoffrance	you really want a definition? :)  metaverse: confusion of tongues  :)  quote ye olde dictionary: virtual: see virtue; having the power of acting or of invisible efficacy, potential; energizing       originally it was "essence" and "ideal forms" and whatnot -- what is true and real and not illusion.    then it became "imaginary" -- 180ed, 1984ed.        "What are Augmented Reality Environments? A technology that superimposes a computer-generated i
[00:03]	kingoffrance	mage on a user's view of the real world,"    "virtual" originally was the "real" "pure" "virtue" world, as opposed to physical/sensible "illusion"
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	during the lockdowns I trains to sleep several times per day, every day
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	it works better
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	with a routine and "normals" it's harder
[00:03]	kingoffrance	its "the computer is god" i guess is what it is :D
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	it's whatever you want it to be
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	meta
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	gets to define... METAverse
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	and distrct from the scandal
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR	but virtue of renaming
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR	and then saying it hires for [some buzzword]
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR	cloud devs ops
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR	aidevsecops
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR	chaining buzzwords
[00:04]	kingoffrance	"virtue" i think somehow became "moral" but the older, more generic seems to just be "pure"
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR	new names foir sysadmin
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR	server now clown
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR	and the clown operator is dev and op
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	and handles app
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	because application is too big a word
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	takes long to type on spyphone
[00:05]	psydroid8	I do see one advantage to a growing share of mobile gaming
[00:05]	Error	nah during lockdown i trained my self with a disease i have never discovered properly
[00:05]	Error	its learing *nix
[00:05]	Error	got hooked with openbsd
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	it is a good skill
[00:06]	Error	and here im
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR	you get to run a lot of things on decent budget and without begging pentagon contractors for permission
[00:06]	Error	as i said im a commie
[00:06]	schestowitz	https://www.computerworld.com/article/2580728/darpa-pulls-funding-for-openbsd--leader-says.html
[00:06]	TR Bot	pulls funding for OpenBSD, leader says | Computerworld
[00:06]	schestowitz	the same cannot be said about Linux
[00:07]	schestowitz	with LF it's all just a chain of deplorable war mongers
[00:07]	Error	i maintain a practice since i was 20
[00:07]	schestowitz	https://linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors/
[00:07]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors/
[00:07]	TR Bot	 Board of Directors - Linux Foundation
[00:07]	schestowitz	commanders in suits
[00:07]	Error	but i would say sorry for drinking coke though
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR	http://killercoke.org
[00:08]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[00:08]	psydroid8	it could kill Windows gaming, so being able to ignore both types of gaming could clear the way
[00:09]	kingoffrance	maybe another way to say above, "virtual" "virtue" was supposedly beyond senses....virtual reality is about getting trapped *into* senses, its 180ed :D
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	VR is old
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	90s was a peak for it
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	and then everyone lost interest
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	than in late 2000s Second Life etc.
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	it bombed 
[00:09]	kingoffrance	yeah there was talk of vrml...then seemed to have gone nowhere
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	IBM lost lots in that
[00:10]	Error	90s was the best time for anything
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	FB tries the same a decade later
[00:10]	Error	thats the best time
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	because people are pissed off at FB and bored or depresseda
[00:10]	Error	FB is a con
[00:10]	Error	just to take ya datas
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[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	nd FB ITSELF not admits people are leaving
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[00:10]	bnchs	i remember playing on garry's mod servers, it's like a "metaverse" before "metaverse" was even coined
[00:11]	Error	do you lot watch films?
[00:11]	schestowitz-TR	https://variety.com/vip/social-media-giants-face-uncertain-future-1235184275/
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[00:11]	TR Bot	Media Giants Face Uncertain Future - Variety
[00:12]	bnchs	big city maps, alternative playermodels
[00:12]	bnchs	it's like the formula for the metaverse
[00:12]	Error	watch Back to the Future
[00:12]	bnchs	almost as if
[00:13]	schestowitz	https://www.vox.com/culture/22840526/colors-movies-tv-gray-digital-color-sludge
[00:13]	TR Bot	in movies and TV: What happened to them? - Vox
[00:13]	Error	i gotta say abou tit
[00:13]	Error	nah a simple thing about Back to the Future
[00:13]	Error	it was in 1985
[00:13]	schestowitz	the firstn one
[00:13]	schestowitz	second was better
[00:13]	Error	nah 
[00:14]	schestowitz	third was utter crap
[00:14]	schestowitz	the cowboy fest
[00:14]	Error	first one i said for a reason
[00:15]	Error	cos there was a sequence where an arab running with a gun
[00:15]	Error	lol
[00:15]	TR News	DIY Hydrophone Listens In On The Deep For Cheap | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/19/diy-hydrophone-listens-in-on-the-deep-for-cheap/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/20/#latest
[00:15]	TR Bot	Hydrophone Listens In On The Deep For Cheap | Hackaday
[00:15]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	that's the econd one, no?
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	the libyan
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	2 of them
[00:15]	Error	yeah
[00:16]	Error	i think you got me point!
[00:16]	TR News	"Same story. I compiled the 5.16.10 kernel, booted it, it spewed out a lot of stuff to the screen, then a black screen and had to do a hard power-off." https://bkhome.org/news/202202/kernel-51610-broken.html
[00:16]	TR Bot	 Kernel 5.16.10 broken
[00:16]	Error	the most worse thing is "The Simpsons"
[00:16]	Error	lol
[00:17]	Error	business talk
[00:17]	Error	lol
[00:17]	Error	are you lot all on openbsd?
[00:18]	bnchs	i tried it out
[00:18]	Error	let me guess
[00:18]	Error	didnt like it?
[00:18]	Error	lol
[00:18]	bnchs	immediatally dropped the fuck out of it after it started downloading intel firmware ucodes without my permission
[00:18]	Error	ah!
[00:19]	schestowitz	http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060930232710
[00:19]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/19/2-men-shot-leaving-1-seriously-injured-in-walmart-parking-lot-in-waukegan/
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[00:19]	TR Bot	 Intel: Only "Open" for Business
[00:19]	TR Bot	 2 men shot, leaving 1 seriously injured at parking lot of Waukegan Walmart
[00:19]	bnchs	i would have liked it if it didn't do that
[00:19]	Error	it was firmware not ur wallet
[00:19]	Error	.l.
[00:19]	bnchs	i used freebsd anyway
[00:19]	Error	ah
[00:20]	Error	aint it the same
[00:20]	Error	???
[00:20]	bnchs	eh
[00:20]	Error	more or less comeon
[00:20]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, ^
[00:20]	Error	=)
[00:21]	bnchs	openbsd literally downloaded intel firmware
[00:21]	bnchs	and took forever to do it
[00:21]	bnchs	and did it without me even saying yes
[00:21]	Error	i do think there was a problem with ur settings
[00:22]	Error	lol
[00:22]	Error	but not 100% syre
[00:22]	Error	sure*
[00:22]	Error	DaemonFC ??
[00:23]	Error	is that even a football club
[00:23]	Error	if it is i support arsenal 
[00:23]	Error	;P
[00:28]	schestowitz-TR	nufc
[00:28]	schestowitz-TR	MbS
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[00:28]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: now say to mandy
[00:29]	schestowitz-TR	welcomew to my wprld
[00:29]	schestowitz-TR	bangbanf marcos instead of bongbong marcos
[00:31]	bnchs	who's mandy
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC's hunsband
[00:31]	bnchs	oh i thought it was some kid
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	it is
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	mentally
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	infantile thinking
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	hoarding apple-branded plastics
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	like legos
[00:32]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC would affirm
[00:36]	TR News	They've made their extensions sound like the file extension means "CRACKS" https://www.maketecheasier.com/download-save-chrome-extension/
[00:36]	TR Bot	 Download and Save a Chrome Extension as a CRX File - Make Tech Easier
[00:38]	TR News	" #OpenBSD Journal is not associated with the OpenBSD project." http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=about
[00:38]	DaemonFC	He's smart enough, but he has severe deficiencies.
[00:38]	TR Bot	 About the OpenBSD Journal
[00:38]	schestowitz-TR	street smarts?
[00:38]	DaemonFC	So it's almost like having an adult of average intelligence who just has no (healthy) fear of the world around him, no situational awareness.
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	ok, so what I said...
[00:39]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[00:39]	DaemonFC	I guess he's used to Tondo being so bad that this is a trip to Disneyland.
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	throw a plate
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	buy new plates
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	"put it on maaa credit card"
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR	"put it on maaa faceeebook"
[00:40]	DaemonFC	If he breaks our plates, we get new plates from the thrift store.
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR	many people end up in tondo because they assume manilla is disneyworld
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR	or a gateway to it
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR	but they cannot afford to live them
[00:41]	schestowitz-TR	so they live in a slum worse than the villege they pilgrimage started from 
[00:41]	schestowitz-TR	*village 
[00:42]	schestowitz-TR	a bit like london here
[00:42]	schestowitz-TR	except in the uk you won't be squatting
[00:42]	schestowitz-TR	not for more than a few hours or days
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	oh, looks like l;arabel is replying to me now
[00:47]	schestowitz-TR	he has not refuted anything
[00:47]	schestowitz-TR	I read it twice
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	second time carefully
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	it's carefully worded
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	but it looks like they sent him loads of these
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	and he says windows benchmarkers are the samea
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	and that he has some very old CPUs around
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	now that the trays there have the old CPUs in them
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[00:57]	darwin	is there a way to login to your nickname right when connecting?  I selected HexChat's feature to use /nickserv for that but it always just changes to my secondary nickname...
● Feb 20
[01:14]	MinceR	SASL is supported, iirc
[01:16]	MinceR	you can also use a server password
[01:17]	MinceR	http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ergoirc-manuals.txt
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[01:36]	darwin	:)
[01:36]	bnchs	audio maining
[01:36]	bnchs	audio mastering
[01:37]	bnchs	time to main that audio
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[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 19, 2022
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[07:21]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, February 19, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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[07:23]	TR News	 NEWS #LinuxQuestions #gnu #linux 2021 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Award Winners https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/2021-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-award-winners-4175708100/
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[07:25]	TR Bot	 Location Interoperability in Europe - How are we doing? | Joinup
[07:25]	TR News	 NEWS #IndiaTimes #Internet Dad Cuts Entire Town's Internet To Get His Kids Offline, Likely To Be Fined Or Even Jailed! https://www.indiatimes.com/technology/news/dad-cuts-entire-towns-internet-to-get-his-kids-offline-likely-to-be-fined-or-even-jailed-562429.html
[07:26]	TR Bot	 Dad Cuts Entire Town's Internet To Get His Kids Offline, Likely To Be Fined Or Even Jailed!
[07:27]	TR News	 NEWS #TechRadar #ProprietarySoftware #GulagDrive is flagging some# macOS files for #copyright violation https://www.techradar.com/in/news/google-drive-is-flagging-some-macos-files-for-copyright-violation
[07:27]	TR Bot	Drive is flagging some macOS files for copyright violation | TechRadar
[07:27]	TR News	First Look at GNOME 42s Built-In Screenshot and Screencast Feature Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161656 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[07:27]	TR Bot	 First Look at GNOME 42s Built-In Screenshot and Screencast Feature | Tux Machines
[07:29]	TR News	 NEWS #IndianExpress #Privacy #Surveillance Explained: How a fake image in a Saudi activists phone blew the lid off NSOs Pegasus spyware https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/how-fake-image-saudi-activist-phone-blew-lid-off-nso-pegasus-spyware-7779916/
[07:29]	TR Bot	 Explained: How a fake image in a Saudi activists phone blew the lid off NSOs Pegasus spyware | Explained News,The Indian Express
[07:31]	TR News	 NEWS #Joinup #freesw The U.S. Department of Defence has published new guidelines for the internal use of open source for cyber defence purposes https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-us-cyber-defence
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[07:31]	TR Bot	 Open source in U.S. cyber defence | Joinup
[07:31]	TR News	"refusal to consider all #freesw based solely on software being Free/libre may be contrary to statutory and regulatory preferences for [proprietary] products" https://dodcio.defense.gov/Portals/0/Documents/Library/SoftwareDev-OpenSource.pdf
[07:32]	TR News	Clown, clown, clown, clown... the Army is #outsourcing to #clowncomputing https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/2927336/deputy-cio-for-information-enterprise-danielle-metz-and-dod-chief-software-offi/
[07:32]	TR Bot	 Deputy CIO for Information Enterprise Danielle Metz and DoD Chief Software Officer Jason Weiss Hold a Media Briefing on the DOD Software Modernization Strategy > U.S. Department of Defense > Transcript
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[07:38]	TR News	 NEWS #SeekingAlpha #NickClegg gets bigger role at #Facebook owner Meta https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60410636 #zuckerberg buying our politicians
[07:38]	TR Bot	 Nick Clegg gets bigger role at Facebook owner Meta - BBC News
[07:38]	TR News	 NEWS #Reuters #AstroTurf Meta CEO #Zuckerberg promotes #NickClegg to lead on policy issues https://www.reuters.com/business/zuckerberg-says-nick-clegg-take-new-role-president-global-affairs-2022-02-16/
[07:38]	TR Bot	CEO Zuckerberg promotes Nick Clegg to lead on policy issues | Reuters
[07:39]	TR News	 [Old] #TheSundayTimesUK #AstroTurf The inside story of #NickClegg at #Facebook and how much power he really wields https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-inside-story-of-nick-clegg-at-facebook-and-how-much-power-he-really-wields-w30wwt9j7 this person is why I would NEVER vote #libdem ... greedy person, propping up Tories and now Zuckerberg'e #espionage
[07:39]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: thetimes.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-inside-story-of-nick-clegg-at-facebook-and-how-much-power-he-really-wields-w30wwt9j7
[07:39]	TR Bot	 The inside story of Nick Clegg at Facebook and how much power he really wields | The Sunday Times Magazine | The Sunday Times
[07:39]	TR News	 NEWS #CNBC #AstroTurf Britain's former deputy prime minister is now one of the most powerful people at Meta https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/17/mark-zuckerberg-makes-nick-clegg-one-of-metas-most-powerful-execs.html
[07:39]	TR Bot	 Mark Zuckerberg makes Nick Clegg one of Meta's most powerful execs
[07:39]	TR News	 NEWS #ITV #AstroTurf #Facebook 's Mark #Zuckerberg promotes Sir #NickClegg to same level of seniority as him at Meta https://www.itv.com/news/2022-02-17/facebooks-mark-zuckerberg-promotes-sir-nick-clegg-to-more-senior-role-at-meta
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[07:40]	TR News	 [Old] #Quartz # Nick Clegg, Facebooks lead apologist, used to be a political idealist https://qz.com/work/2069106/nick-clegg-facebooks-defender-was-once-a-political-idealist/
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[07:42]	TR News	 NEWS #TheVerge #Facebook How Facebook twisted Canadas trucker [blockade] into an international movement https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/19/22941291/facebook-canada-trucker-convoy-gofundme-groups-viral-sharing "protest to social [control] media to establishment outlets"
[07:43]	TR News	 NEWS #EestiRahvusringhling #disinformation #Estonia calls on Russia to stop 'provocations, disinformation campaign' https://news.err.ee/1608505802/estonia-calls-on-russia-to-stop-provocations-disinformation-campaign "Ministry of Foreign Affairs wrote on social [control] media" (feeding the very monster that should be tackled)
[07:46]	TR News	If you open a tab with this thing called #googlevoice (Gulag Voice), even if you are not on call, #pulseaudio shoots up in CPU usage. Is this a #listeningDevices and is the microphone tapped in the background? #malware and #ProprietarySoftware have become almost the same.
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[07:49]	TR News	 NEWS #PsychologyToday #Censorship Is 2022 the Year of Censorship? https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/checkpoints/202202/is-2022-the-year-censorship
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[07:51]	TR News	 NEWS #CoryDoctorow #Monopolies #Murdoch The last days of #Myspace https://pluralistic.net/2022/02/17/live-by-the-swordlive-by-the-sword/#unfriending-tom "low switching costs are kryptonite for network effects."
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[07:52]	TR News	old: #microsoft killed #nokia and nobody was punished for it https://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia
[07:54]	TR News	"everything sucks" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180222.html#tFeb%2018%2001:54:40 iophk: also called the "Microsoft Effect"
[07:55]	TR News	old: How criminals from #microsoft destroyed the most important company in #finland because it was using and spreading #linux https://bgr.com/general/nokia-elop-bonus-scandal/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Nokia
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[07:56]	TR News	old: #elop was never punished for what he did on behalf of #microsoft criminals including #ballmer and #billgates https://bgr.com/general/nokia-ceo-elop-contract-details/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Nokia
[07:57]	TR News	#famouscriminal #billgates still considered "acceptable" to some people? https://telanganatoday.com/bill-gates-to-have-chat-with-ktr-on-emerging-healthcare-trends-and-health-infra-development-in-bioasia these "bill sez" pieces as hallmark of media for "sale" https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
[07:57]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: telanganatoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telanganatoday.com/bill-gates-to-have-chat-with-ktr-on-emerging-healthcare-trends-and-health-infra-development-in-bioasia
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[07:57]	TR News	Why you should never vote #libdem https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/16/president-nick-clegg/
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[07:57]	TR News	From British politics to global #espionage https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/feb/16/nick-clegg-facebook-meta-president-global-affairs
[07:58]	TR News	#estonia shows "more use of #socialcontrolmedia in place of official channels of communication" -iophk https://news.err.ee/1608505802/estonia-calls-on-russia-to-stop-provocations-disinformation-campaign
[07:58]	TR News	iophk: #socialcontrolmedia is not a source of information but a source of #disinformation :( https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/russiaukraine-will-be-worlds-first-naked-war/news-story/4864b19e4f1c34462112e0f51e010b92
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[07:59]	TR News	#DoD feeding #Microsoft #GitHub :( https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-us-cyber-defence #proprietarySoftware #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
[07:59]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-us-cyber-defence
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[08:00]	TR News	#jeffreyepstein again https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/modeling-agent-linked-jeffrey-epstein-found-dead-prison-cell-rcna16945 #billgates : "well, he'd dead..." http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/bill-gates-he-is-dead/
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[08:04]	TR News	#JeffreyEpstein and associates vanish https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10530247/Jeffrey-Epsteins-friend-Jean-Luc-Brunel-prison-suicide.html #billgates : "well, he'd dead..." http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/bill-gates-he-is-dead/
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[08:05]	TR News	Jean-Luc Brunel: Epstein associate found dead in Paris prison cell https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60443518 #billgates : well, hed dead http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/bill-gates-he-is-dead/
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[08:06]	TR News	"Having captured #Instagram , #Facebook ruthlessly strangled potential competitors. It tricked millions of users into installing a fake battery monitor called Onavo, which spied on their mobile usage" https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/107811188504976295
[08:07]	TR News	"had to explain RSS to two fellow gen z-ers... me: its kind of like subscribing for updates on a website, before "following" was a thing. them: oh, is that something new?" https://post.lurk.org/@pixouls/107820154016359054
[08:08]	TR News	"By far the best upgrade for #vista10 is #LinuxMint " https://upallnight.minnix.dev/@minnix/107821076089560377 #gnu #linux
[08:09]	TR News	Youll Need a #Microsoft Account to Set Up Future Versions of #vista11 Pro https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/02/18/1036204 Microsoft: #pentagon contractor http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[08:10]	TR News	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Preemptive Blocking Orders Help #Greece Tackle Sports #Streaming https://torrentfreak.com/preemptive-blocking-orders-help-greece-tackle-sports-streaming-piracy-220219/
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[08:10]	TR News	 NEWS #TruthOut In a Victory for Activists, Lawsuit Against Arizonas ALEC Lawmakers Can Proceed https://truthout.org/articles/in-a-victory-for-activists-lawsuit-against-arizonas-alec-lawmakers-can-proceed/ #billgates and #microsoft BOTH funded #ALEC
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[08:24]	TR News	 #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, February 19, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/irc-log-190222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/irc-log-190222/
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[09:21]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161657 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:21]	TR News	#FreeSoftware in the Public Sector Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161658 #freesw #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:21]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161659 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:32]	TR News	#Geminispace Has Thousands of Contributors (Writers and Developers) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/geminispace-contributors/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/geminispace-contributors/
[09:42]	TR News	Use different time zones on your Linux KDE desktop | https://opensource.com/article/22/2/use-different-time-zones-linux-kde #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
[09:43]	TR News	#Geminispace can be easily surveyed/explored using a list of the known capsules in it (while it's still small relative to or compared to the World Wide Web) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/geminispace-contributors/ #Techrights #internet #cyberspace #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/geminispace-contributors/
[09:51]	TR News	Sunday Extreme Transparency https://assets.amuniversal.com/6f3b3250558e013a91c0005056a9545d
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[10:00]	TR News	Temporary EasyOS 3.4.1RC with 5.15.16 kernel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161393#comment-32872
[10:01]	TR News	"The software also contains a database of spectra corresponding to chemical elements: once youve taken a spectrum of an unknown sample, you can overlay these onto the resulting plot and try to find a match." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/19/spectrometer-detects-chemicals-by-zapping-samples-with-a-laser-beam/
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[10:06]	TR News	Every Software Developer Needs to be a Part of an Open Source Community Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161661 #FreeSoftware is a community. "Open Source" is corporations #openwashing their #proprietarySoftware
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[11:06]	psydroid2	it was probably expected but someone was throwing around FUD in the comments for the article about RISC-V on The Register
[11:06]	psydroid2	https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2022/02/17/riscv_chip_wars/
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[11:06]	TR Bot	 RISC-V is keeping its head down in the global chip war The Register Forums
[11:06]	psydroid2	it's always about protecting the status quo
[11:06]	psydroid2	which feels backward to me
[11:08]	psydroid2	it's exactly like the kind of FUD that was thrown around when GNU and Linux were still relatively new
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[11:08]	schestowitz-TR	gm
[11:08]	DaemonFC	Morning
[11:09]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I was talking with mom about the COVID vaccines. One of Mandy's coworkers took the Moderna booster, missed her period, and then freaked out and bought pregnancy tests.
[11:09]	DaemonFC	Then she got her period a week and a half late.
[11:09]	schestowitz-TR	psydroid2: is this the link I showed you last night?
[11:09]	schestowitz-TR	but for "forums"?
[11:09]	DaemonFC	That and the 500% higher heart inflammation. I told mom that they dosed everyone with some beta tests.
[11:09]	psydroid2	schestowitz-TR, yes
[11:10]	psydroid2	I am reading through the comments now
[11:10]	DaemonFC	And only now are we starting to realize who guessed right and wrong.
[11:10]	schestowitz-TR	psydroid2: good
[11:10]	schestowitz-TR	I put that in techrights and tuaxmachines also, iirc
[11:10]	psydroid2	Bruce Hoult is a former SiFive employee who has also worked at Samsung among other companies
[11:10]	schestowitz-TR	it's contamination
[11:10]	DaemonFC	Luckily, I looked at the data that was out there and made an educated guess and got it right.
[11:11]	schestowitz-TR	well, we work from home so we stayed in a sotr of 'bunker'
[11:11]	DaemonFC	I'm not even sure why Moderna's product was approved given the higher risks.
[11:11]	schestowitz-TR	without an actual bunker
[11:11]	DaemonFC	Over the years to come, this will undoubtedly cause more health expenses.
[11:11]	schestowitz-TR	here is one thing I will tell you
[11:11]	schestowitz-TR	before we move back on topic
[11:12]	DaemonFC	Even if few people get heart inflammation, the fact that it's 5 times more for no apparent benefit is troubling.
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	2 weeks ago I went to book a routine blood test
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	I got my blood checked every 6 months
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	part of NHS 
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	they said,
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	can you gom to another clinic?
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	why?
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	they said,
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	because we are over-capacity
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	(for blood test)
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	I said,
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	I can wait for a while, it's not urgent
[11:12]	schestowitz-TR	so she booked me for a month later
[11:13]	schestowitz-TR	I never had this happen before
[11:13]	DaemonFC	Yeah, labs here aren't like that. It costs money so people don't go in there except as needed.
[11:13]	schestowitz-TR	waiting for a month for a routine blood test
[11:13]	schestowitz-TR	so my guess was,
[11:13]	DaemonFC	You don't go in when you don't expect anything wrong. You'd do it like once a year unless something concerning happens.
[11:13]	schestowitz-TR	50 million Brits getting these agents in thje bloodstream leas to... stuff
[11:13]	schestowitz-TR	*leads
[11:14]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> 50 million Brits getting these agents in thje bloodstream leas to... stuff
[11:14]	schestowitz-TR	I have tow best friends
[11:14]	schestowitz-TR	(other than rianne)
[11:14]	DaemonFC	That or good old Boris has cut their budget so badly that they want you to kindly fuck off so they can prioritize people who have medical problems.
[11:14]	schestowitz-TR	Mark got his knees all swollen
[11:14]	DaemonFC	Since they don't have the resources anymore.
[11:14]	schestowitz-TR	the knee specialist told him this happened to lots of people after the AZ vaccine
[11:14]	schestowitz-TR	his partner started getting brown marks
[11:14]	schestowitz-TR	she showed me some
[11:15]	schestowitz-TR	she's only 30
[11:15]	schestowitz-TR	Mark was violently ill
[11:15]	DaemonFC	Routine monitoring isn't something they're going to prioritize if the government cuts their budget, even 10-20%.
[11:15]	schestowitz-TR	and he's a world class athlete with trophies 
[11:15]	schestowitz-TR	his partner kept colapsing whole running
[11:15]	schestowitz-TR	going unconscious
[11:15]	schestowitz-TR	it kept happening
[11:16]	schestowitz-TR	and the physicians could not figure out the cause or how to prevent these 
[11:16]	DaemonFC	Oh yes, and one of Mandy's friends went to the Philippines and got that stupid AZ shot when he could have gotten the Pfizer one here.
[11:16]	DaemonFC	Now if he gets a booster it can't even match because AZ isn't approved here.
[11:16]	DaemonFC	It was never approved here, not even for emergency use.
[11:16]	DaemonFC	And in the mean time, he got COVID anyway, within a few months after the second dose.
[11:16]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, back to tech
[11:17]	schestowitz-TR	psydroid2: risc-v will be ruined by beurocracy
[11:17]	schestowitz-TR	like linux foundation
[11:17]	schestowitz-TR	there will be an influix from rivals
[11:17]	schestowitz-TR	just like happened in OSI, maybe even FSFE and FSF
[11:17]	schestowitz-TR	these are assimilation tacticsa
[11:17]	schestowitz-TR	and the weapon of choice is money
[11:17]	DaemonFC	Linux is COVID, and climate change, and blockchain.
[11:17]	DaemonFC	Linux is also a Code of Conduct.
[11:17]	schestowitz-TR	if  a person is stubborn and principled 
[11:18]	schestowitz-TR	theny engineer s a scandal
[11:18]	psydroid2	schestowitz-TR, this time around I expect it to just be forked outright, which is also legal
[11:18]	schestowitz-TR	like replacing Torvalds with a loser like Zemlin
[11:18]	DaemonFC	Linux is also a program for AIDS relief.
[11:18]	psydroid2	once the ISA has all the extensions you need, who needs approval from the RISC-V Foundation or the US?
[11:19]	DaemonFC	Linux Foundation wants to save the trees, save the bees, save those whales, save some snails.
[11:20]	psydroid2	we might see RUS-V, VEGA-V, XING-V spring up in some time
[11:20]	DaemonFC	Whatever Bill and LOLITA Gates Foundation is into, that's what Linux is into.
[11:20]	psydroid2	all looking just like RISC-V with some changes
[11:20]	DaemonFC	You can take $50 billion and double in in 20 years by giving it away.
[11:21]	DaemonFC	What was it? 6% of their budget for Linux the kernel, at the Linux Foundation?
[11:21]	DaemonFC	And there's no telling what that even means because they didn't say how that was being spent.
[11:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, "Corrupt Charity".
[11:22]	DaemonFC	They should lose their tax exempt status for spending more money getting more money (fundraising) than they do on Linux.
[11:23]	DaemonFC	It's well known that they cook the books on fundraising too.
[11:23]	DaemonFC	The Shedd Aquarium sells memberships and then they have special dinners for their members "on the house" every month. The whole thing is catered in.
[11:23]	DaemonFC	It's really quite nice.
[11:27]	DaemonFC	The efficiency gap of fundraising is terrible because it's a way for rich people to amuse themselves and write it off their taxes.
[11:28]	psydroid2	schestowitz-TR, the thing is that as the US you have designed a great new ISA in Berkeley for chips ranging from applications for everything from microcontrollers to supercomputers, but since you have existing companies to protect based on "so-called exceptional" x86, other countries are running away with the technology
[11:29]	psydroid2	so who is really at fault here? the dinosaurs or the next generation of reptiles?
[11:32]	schestowitz-TR	bbiab recording
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[11:35]	DaemonFC	I blame the dinosaurs.
[11:35]	DaemonFC	After all, when someone is gone, you can blame them for anything you want.
[11:36]	DaemonFC	Everything around us is being manipulated, even things that don't seem important.
[11:37]	DaemonFC	When you can control things at a certain level, it makes it easy to shift perception of reality in every way all at once.
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[12:23]	DaemonFC	https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/02/19/apple-has-a-clear-path-to-1t-in-revenue-by-2030
[12:23]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/02/19/apple-has-a-clear-path-to-1t-in-revenue-by-2030
[12:23]	TR Bot	has a clear path to $1T in revenue by 2030 | AppleInsider
[12:23]	DaemonFC	LOL
[12:23]	DaemonFC	Yeah, but it'll be Biden Dollars.
[12:24]	DaemonFC	The price of bacon is a dollar more per pound every week when you go to the store.
[12:24]	DaemonFC	Gas is almost $4 a gallon in the midwest, OUTSIDE of Chicago, and almost $5 a gallon in Chicago.
[12:25]	DaemonFC	Gallons of milk just went up 86 cents all at once last week at Walmart.
[12:26]	DaemonFC	If you devalue the currency, you can make "a lot of money". In 1978, when you pulled out a $1 bill, it bought what $5 does now.
[12:34]	DaemonFC	So in 2030, Apple will make less than it does now if it pulls in a trillion dollars that year. If they're even still relevant in 2030.
[12:34]	DaemonFC	8 years is a long time in politics or tech.
[12:34]	DaemonFC	There's no telling what people will use by then. Hopefully, some of them will wake up and there will be better devices than an iPhone.
[12:41]	psydroid2	phones are just a gimmick
[12:41]	psydroid2	they're locked down pocket computers that come with many undesireable features
[12:42]	psydroid2	so why not just make pocket computers that give users freedom at reasonable prices
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[12:54]	bnchs	psydroid2: because control
[12:54]	bnchs	they want to put ads on it without the users removing it
[12:54]	bnchs	and sponsored "apps" that can't be uninstalled
● Feb 20
[13:01]	DaemonFC	https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/20/queen-tests-positive-for-covid
[13:01]	TR Bot	 The Queen tests positive for Covid | The Queen | The Guardian
[13:02]	DaemonFC	No more waving at football games for a while.
[13:03]	DaemonFC	"
[13:03]	DaemonFC	Rep. Yvette Herrell (R-NM) compared Canadas handling of vaccine mandate protesters to an authoritarian regime like Venezuela and said she will introduce legislation to temporarily grant asylum to Canadians protesting vaccine requirements, Mediaite reports."
[13:03]	DaemonFC	She's likely to lose her next election.
[13:03]	DaemonFC	New Mexico gerrymandered the districts to try to capture her seat for the Democrats.
[13:03]	DaemonFC	Obviously, it could backfire, but the odds are against her.
[13:04]	bnchs	is tiktok a psychological weapon against the west
[13:04]	bnchs	or against the world
[13:04]	kingoffrance	"the west" is a psychological weapon
[13:04]	DaemonFC	They only have three seats in the House, so to go for hers required watering down their own margins in the other two districts with more Republican voters.
[13:04]	bnchs	i witnessed alot of degenerate content on it
[13:04]	DaemonFC	So they could conceivably lose a district as well as seeing her re-elected.
[13:05]	bnchs	Douyin (chinese version) has less degeneracy than tiktok
[13:05]	kingoffrance	people say "the west" to invent some imaginary bible, its a meaningless term that just means "astrology"
[13:06]	kingoffrance	so draco the dragon is "western civilization"
[13:08]	kingoffrance	its just religions trying to steal land, start wars, same thing they always do
[13:10]	kingoffrance	western civilization is a guy in a bull costume praying to draco the dragon his father in heaven that america be "reborn".   so degeneracy is all around
[13:10]	DaemonFC	https://politicalwire.com/2022/02/18/americans-are-emerging-from-the-pandemic/
[13:10]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/02/18/americans-are-emerging-from-the-pandemic/
[13:10]	TR Bot	 Americans Are Emerging From the Pandemic
[13:10]	DaemonFC	LOL
[13:10]	DaemonFC	"We're back! They want to SPEND SPEND SPEND!"
[13:12]	kingoffrance	funny enough, shamanism was the only religion that claimed to go beyond the pole star system
[13:13]	kingoffrance	so the horn guy is kind of a degenerate version of shaminism
[13:13]	DaemonFC	https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/fda-eyes-second-covid-19-booster-shot-11645282800?mod=trending_now_news_4
[13:13]	TR Bot	Eyes Second Covid-19 Booster Shot - WSJ
[13:13]	DaemonFC	"otential obstacles to the effort are that many people are fatigued with vaccinations after getting initial doses and that others are hesitant to get the shots. About 65% of the U.S. population is fully vaccinated"
[13:14]	DaemonFC	Hesitant means that they threaten to kill people over vaccine mandates and have refused the vaccines for over a year now.
[13:14]	DaemonFC	Just a tad hesitant!
[13:14]	bnchs	https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/18/politics/doj-reveals-new-messages-oath-keepers-leader-stewart-rhodes/index.html
[13:14]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/18/politics/doj-reveals-new-messages-oath-keepers-leader-stewart-rhodes/index.html
[13:14]	TR Bot	 DOJ reveals new Signal messages from Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes - CNNPolitics
[13:15]	bnchs	how do you think they got the signal messages
[13:15]	bnchs	the article says nothing about that
[13:17]	bnchs	is there something going behind the scenes in signal?
[13:17]	bnchs	or is it some guy who leaked the messsages
[13:20]	DaemonFC	More likely, they were communicating with undercover law enforcement.
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[13:21]	DaemonFC	People always forget that the first rule here is that you never really know WHO you're talking to on the other end and if you identify yourself, why are you bothering to encrypt or onion route it?
[13:22]	bnchs	so in vista 11
[13:22]	bnchs	"Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed."
[13:22]	bnchs	taskbar can only be aligned to the bottom now
[13:22]	DaemonFC	Yeah, well, about that....
[13:23]	DaemonFC	Some "upgrades" to Windows 10 failed because people had their taskbar on the side or top of the screen.
[13:23]	psydroid2	as a developer why would you want vista (for other reasons than control)?
[13:23]	DaemonFC	And the Windows 10 installer couldn't handle that and bailed.
[13:23]	DaemonFC	Microsoft quality.
[13:23]	psydroid2	there is nothing of value left in that sorry excuse for an operating system
[13:23]	bnchs	holy shit i wonder why they did that
[13:23]	DaemonFC	So it appears that to "fix" that, you just lock the taskbar to the bottom of the screen.
[13:24]	bnchs	that's like a downgarde
[13:24]	DaemonFC	Then fixing the actual problem no longer matters because the user can't move the taskbar to another location.
[13:24]	bnchs	i actually have my XFCE taskbar to the top
[13:24]	bnchs	and i'm used to it
[13:24]	DaemonFC	Yeah, you can do whatever you want pretty much. 
[13:25]	psydroid2	of which I like to say that it isn't actually an operating system, but a collection of APIs disguised as an operating system
[13:25]	DaemonFC	GNOME Shell isn't as customizable, but it's a lot more usable than Windows Explorer.
[13:25]	psydroid2	this always gets me downvoted, but GNU/Linux + WINE is the better Vista now
[13:26]	DaemonFC	GNOME Shell is nice for laptop screens.
[13:26]	DaemonFC	It doesn't use a ton of screen real estate just sitting there.
[13:26]	psydroid2	I have my Mate bars to the right and the one for open applications at the top but autohiding
[13:26]	bnchs	i realized i was using top taskbar for the rest of my life
[13:26]	psydroid2	I just want to have as much vertical space as possible
[13:26]	bnchs	i remember when i was 8 and had my taskbar to the top
[13:27]	bnchs	back when i was using windows xp
[13:27]	DaemonFC	One of the first things you notice moving from Windows 10 to GNOME is that you have about another inch of horizontal screen space.
[13:27]	DaemonFC	For some reason, Microsoft and Apple waste a ton of space with humongous icons, and Microsoft has been doing that for a long time.
[13:28]	DaemonFC	Windows 95's shell didn't do that, but Windows 98's did.
[13:28]	DaemonFC	When I put the Windows 95 shell back in after removing Internet Explorer from 98, I always liked how much extra screen space I had.
[13:28]	DaemonFC	When you have to use a 1024x768 resolution, those gigantic buttons aren't nice.
[13:29]	psydroid2	the last Windows I seriously used for everything was 2000
[13:29]	DaemonFC	Opera defaulted to big buttons too, but you could change that.
[13:29]	psydroid2	but one disaster led me to move everything over to GNU/Linux
[13:29]	DaemonFC	Screen space was too valuable for big buttons, but everyone did them anyway.
[13:30]	psydroid2	Windows fans don't believe you when you tell them Windows eats your NTFS
[13:30]	bnchs	i first used GNU/Linux because i curious
[13:30]	bnchs	i was curious*
[13:30]	DaemonFC	NTFS will be corrupted over and over again.
[13:30]	psydroid2	I started using Windows and GNU/Linux at the same time
[13:30]	DaemonFC	Your recovery partition isn't even safe.
[13:30]	DaemonFC	Malware goes burrowing into that even.
[13:30]	psydroid2	but I didn't know enough about GNU/Linux to install it yet
[13:30]	DaemonFC	There's Windows malware now that just puts itself right into the WIM image on the recovery partition.
[13:31]	bnchs	i used GNU/Linux on a VM at first
[13:31]	TR News	Use different time zones on your Linux KDE desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161664 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:31]	TR Bot	 Use different time zones on your Linux KDE desktop | Tux Machines
[13:31]	DaemonFC	And the recovery partition wastes a TON of space on an SSD.
[13:31]	bnchs	then i started replacing windows with GNU/Linux
[13:31]	DaemonFC	Mostly because Lenovo packs it full of trialware that comes back if you reinstall Windows.
[13:31]	psydroid2	VMs came a few years later, I was dual booting for about 18 months
[13:33]	DaemonFC	https://lwn.net/Articles/884979/
[13:33]	TR Bot	on the coming version-100 apocalypse [LWN.net]
[13:33]	DaemonFC	Or you could freeze the user agent at 99 forever and force websites to check for capabilites.
[13:33]	DaemonFC	*capabilities
[13:34]	DaemonFC	Most websites that break due to user agent sniffing....break due to user agent sniffing.
[13:34]	DaemonFC	It's nothing wrong with the web browser.
[13:34]	bnchs	i like how naive code made microsoft skip windows 9
[13:35]	DaemonFC	The only way you make them knock it off is by freezing it so legacy websites work, but people making new sites now realize nothing useful can be gained from trying to read the version number in the user agent.
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[13:37]	bnchs	User Agents are useless
[13:37]	bnchs	nobody needs to know what you use
[13:42]	psydroid2	indeed
[13:43]	psydroid2	anyone who assumes you are on a certain operating system because of your user agents should probably not be developing websites and other software
[13:43]	psydroid2	agent*
[13:45]	bnchs	people abuse user agent to discriminate against any non-chrome users
[13:45]	bnchs	they'll show a bigass popup telling you to use chrome
[13:49]	psydroid2	this is why the web needs a big reset
[13:49]	kingoffrance	agree. a supported features list is debatable.   that doesnt include os, browser name, etc.    just what features are and are not supported
[13:49]	psydroid2	or better needs to be replaced by gemini and friends
[13:49]	psydroid2	don't assume what is on the client's end, just offer the information
[13:50]	psydroid2	it seems so simple but is difficult in practice because of control
[13:51]	kingoffrance	for a horrible analogy, autoconf purposely didnt trust any oses or compilers claiming things, they deliberately wanted to test each feature, because people lie, it was the only reliable way.    not saying that is a good idea, just they too decided user agents are useless at that level
[13:52]	bnchs	people abuse user agents to serve lightweight pages to old browser and bloated ass pages to new browsers
[13:53]	kingoffrance	user agent is thereotically an alias for "supports features x, y, and z".  it is really the features that are the issue
[13:54]	bnchs	features can be disabled in the advanced settings (about:config)
[13:54]	kingoffrance	*theoretically
[13:54]	bnchs	so the user agent would be inaccurate to how much features the browser supports
[13:54]	kingoffrance	yeah, i just mean user agents come and go, features either follow standards or do not
[13:54]	kingoffrance	true too yes
[13:54]	kingoffrance	same with compiler flags -std=c89
[13:54]	kingoffrance	exactly!
[13:58]	kingoffrance	user agents are perhaps a form of ifdef hell
[13:58]	kingoffrance	kind of 180 of "standards"
● Feb 20
[14:01]	bnchs	what would be better
[14:01]	bnchs	is a Javascript-Supported header
[14:01]	bnchs	and you can query all the features supported in javascript
[14:01]	bnchs	like OpenGL
[14:11]	MinceR	(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3_s8ZCsh2Y
[14:11]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[14:14]	kingoffrance	makes me think of duck typing, which im sure there are downsides, but at some level, there are either real standards, or gatekeeping for chosen os+browser combinations
[14:19]	kingoffrance	question whether people really want "decentralization" or not
[14:19]	kingoffrance	*question of
[14:20]	bnchs	they want decentralization with censorship
[14:20]	bnchs	so anything bad they can remove it
[14:21]	kingoffrance	^^^
[14:21]	kingoffrance	yeah, decentralization for me, not for you lol
[14:21]	bnchs	i already seen this with mastodon
[14:21]	kingoffrance	i get a mask, you get unmasked
[14:22]	bnchs	if you have users that post bad shit
[14:22]	bnchs	you get delisted
[14:22]	bnchs	and banned
[14:22]	bnchs	from all instances
[14:22]	SomeH4x0r	I seen this with pissnet
[14:23]	SomeH4x0r	"decentralized", except the DNSBLs are enabled everywhere (aside maybe a few Tor-only servers)
[14:23]	SomeH4x0r	though it is not truly federated
[14:23]	bnchs	there won't be decentralization
[14:23]	bnchs	if our mindset encourages censorship
[14:23]	bnchs	true decentralization*
[14:36]	psydroid2	maybe that's how it should be then
[14:36]	psydroid2	separate "decentralised" cells
[14:37]	psydroid2	no one will ever agree with everyone else
[14:37]	psydroid2	but the danger is that some of such cells may prove to be a threat to "society"
[14:39]	bnchs	yesterweb is like that
[14:40]	SomeH4x0r	what is yesterweb? Web 1.0?
[14:40]	bnchs	yesterweb is like the old web 1.0 but they like to still have the SJW censorship
[14:41]	SomeH4x0r	is "yesterweb" an entity or an idea?
[14:41]	bnchs	"The Yesterweb is a community [...]"
[14:41]	bnchs	they have a gemini
[14:42]	SomeH4x0r	a centralized group, or something like Anonymous?
[14:42]	bnchs	a centralized group i think
[14:42]	bnchs	https://yesterweb.org
[14:42]	TR Bot	 The Yesterweb - Reclaiming the Internet
[14:43]	bnchs	here's some funny quote: "The second problem is that many decentralized apps in particular have garnered a widespread reputation for hate speech. In many of these spaces (IRC included), free speech becomes synonymous with hate speech. Its no surprise that one would be reluctant to associate themselves (especially a community) with that kind of reputation." https://yesterweb.org/p/why-discord.html
[14:43]	TR Bot	 Why Discord?
[14:44]	kingoffrance	yeah, thats why i dont take "degeneracy" seriously.  it will be like that kind of "hate speech" -- undefined, ever-shifting ...
[14:45]	kingoffrance	a license to sin for the elect, inquisition for everyone else
[14:45]	psydroid2	why wasn't the yesterweb dead on arrival? or is it?
[14:45]	psydroid2	is/was*
[14:45]	bnchs	it is dead on arrival
[14:45]	bnchs	it got made fun of
[14:48]	SomeH4x0r	someone should make a service tracking Let's Encrypt-affected websites
[14:48]	SomeH4x0r	fucking ENOUGH
[14:48]	bnchs	their ridicious "hate speech" rule conflicts with their statement: "[...] acknowledges that today's internet is lacking in creativity, [self-expression], and good digital social infrastructure"
[14:48]	bnchs	you can't have self-expression without "hate speech"
[14:48]	SomeH4x0r	no trust here, this trust model was never good, and this thing is even further making it look nonsense
[14:49]	TR News	Every Software Developer Needs to be a Part of an Open Source Community Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161663 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:49]	TR Bot	 Every Software Developer Needs to be a Part of an Open Source Community | Tux Machines
[14:49]	TR News	Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to CorelDRAW Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161665 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:49]	bnchs	the idea of CA is shit
[14:49]	TR News	Fixing performance issues with Realtek RTL8156B 2.5GbE USB dongle in #Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161666 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:49]	TR Bot	 Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to CorelDRAW | Tux Machines
[14:50]	TR Bot	 Fixing performance issues with Realtek RTL8156B 2.5GbE USB dongle in Ubuntu | Tux Machines
[14:51]	SomeH4x0r	I don't think Mastodon belongs to the Web 1.0
[14:52]	SomeH4x0r	they'd better at least use some webforums
[14:52]	bnchs	they literally use discord
[14:52]	SomeH4x0r	or better, mailing lists
[14:52]	bnchs	and some VR bullshit and minecraft server
[14:54]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/01/you-know-you-dont-have-to-share-every-thought-you-have-on-the-internet/
[14:54]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/01/you-know-you-dont-have-to-share-every-thought-you-have-on-the-internet/
[14:54]	TR Bot	 You Know, You Dont HAVE To Share Every Thought You Have On The Internet (19 Posts)
[14:55]	TR News	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161667 #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:55]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[14:58]	SomeH4x0r	I don't see the source code for their weird "browser"
[14:58]	SomeH4x0r	oh, now I do
[14:58]	bnchs	where
[14:58]	SomeH4x0r	BUT FUCK GITLAB WITH CLOWNFLARE
[14:59]	SomeH4x0r	https://gitlab.com/ro1y/yesterweb-surf
[14:59]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: gitlab.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gitlab.com/ro1y/yesterweb-surf
[14:59]	TR Bot	Poly / Yesterweb Surf+ GitLab
● Feb 20
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	oh
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	Cloudflare: gitlab.com
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	not good 
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	thyey had ipo
[15:00]	bnchs	it's an electron
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	cannot do their own cdn??
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	we had a cdn of ours own
[15:01]	schestowitz-TR	with varnish
[15:01]	schestowitz-TR	why can't they?
[15:06]	bnchs	why does proprietary software on windows look like old ass shit
[15:07]	bnchs	sometimes bloated sometimes old
[15:07]	bnchs	like this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpeedFan
[15:07]	TR Bot	 SpeedFan - Wikipedia
[15:07]	SomeH4x0r	there is no "old ass shit", you are brainwashed
[15:08]	SomeH4x0r	a program is a tool, it should do its job, that's it
[15:08]	bnchs	no
[15:08]	bnchs	i mean the UI
[15:08]	SomeH4x0r	the user should be able to understand how to work with it. It doesn't have to have some weird-"modern" UI which wastes CPU
[15:08]	bnchs	yes i hate modern UI
[15:09]	MinceR	MICROS~1 pioneered that
[15:10]	bnchs	you see this kind of UI in dinobabies programs
[15:10]	MinceR	they came up with a new look, made a version of Backdoors with it, then ASAP changed their mind and made a version of Orifice which already had to look better
[15:10]	MinceR	so it had custom widgets
[15:10]	MinceR	and then of course their followers had to get that look in their programs so they all came with custom widgets
[15:10]	SomeH4x0r	one UI. Forever. Don't make users learn to use it over and over.
[15:11]	MinceR	then Backdoors XP came out with its own incompatible style, then vista with its own, etc.
[15:11]	MinceR	every time your Backdoors application will look like the oldest version of Backdoors it can run on
[15:11]	MinceR	gulag seems to have copied this with android
[15:11]	bnchs	something about the icons and style seems outdated
[15:11]	bnchs	like the windows XP progress bar mixed with the crude icons
[15:11]	MinceR	even though free toolkits could do this whole theming thing properly for decades
[15:12]	MinceR	s/look better/look different/
[15:14]	psydroid2	Microsoft just never upgraded the basic look and feel of win32 applications, which shows us the problem with making a graphics API a fundamental and inextricably tied part of your "operating system"
[15:15]	SomeH4x0r	no "outdated". It is useful. Enough.
[15:20]	psydroid2	I remember when I was "interested" in Backdoors programming there was this horrible MFC and also C++ Builder with its VCL (from Delphi), which was much easier to develop with
[15:21]	psydroid2	of course that couldn't be allowed so they hired away many of Borland's developers to create the abomination that is called .NET
[15:32]	XRevan86	My feed in Russian is 80% war-related.
[15:33]	SomeH4x0r	feed?
[15:33]	schestowitz-TR	life is war
[15:33]	XRevan86	Atom/RSS feed
[15:33]	schestowitz-TR	war is life
[15:43]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: maybe wrong feed choices
[15:43]	schestowitz-TR	like mt patent feeds
[15:43]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Quite the opposite.
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	i did a 3 hour video about it just now
[15:44]	schestowitz-TR	90% of the feeds isa noise/lies
[15:45]	schestowitz-TR	rss is good
[15:45]	schestowitz-TR	unlike social control 'media'
[15:45]	schestowitz-TR	but deoends on the feeds
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR	GIGO
[15:48]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Even economy-oriented news are about how the war is affecting the market.
[15:48]	schestowitz-TR	so many important stories ill get lose in the mist
[15:48]	schestowitz-TR	when you said the army had been attacked
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR	I immediately told rianne not to even tell me what MSM was saying
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR	as it was info war
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR	both russian and western media weould lie
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR	and then you can easily focus on other news which matters
[15:50]	XRevan86	schestowitz: L/DPR is barraging the media with easily debunkable fakes right now.
[15:51]	XRevan86	The most entertaining being the February 18th announcements of February 17th Ukraine aggression filmed at February 16th
[15:52]	XRevan86	They forgot about the video file metadata.
[15:53]	XRevan86	As when they uploaded .mp4's to Telegram, they were kept as-is.
[15:59]	schestowitz-TR	So Telegram is like WhatsApp when it comes to "news"
[15:59]	schestowitz-TR	people spreading shit to cause outrage
[15:59]	schestowitz-TR	over things that tturn out to be false
● Feb 20
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	but only when it's too late
[16:00]	schestowitz-TR	when damage gets done and people die from mobs
[16:00]	XRevan86	They also uploaded it all to other websites.
[16:01]	XRevan86	But Telegram didn't reencode, which helped reveal the original metadata.
[16:01]	schestowitz-TR	i see..
[16:01]	schestowitz-TR	I reencode right now
[16:01]	schestowitz-TR	3 hours of video
[16:01]	schestowitz-TR	doubly-rencoded
[16:01]	schestowitz-TR	format shift and overlay added
[16:01]	bnchs	reencoded is a waste of CPU
[16:02]	XRevan86	A peculiar detail is that the directory saved in metadata was called "Mongoose Throw".
[16:02]	bnchs	wtf is mongoose throw
[16:03]	XRevan86	https://atlas-report.com/operation-mongoose-throw-is-the-possible-name-of-the-russian-false-flag-operation-to-invade-ukraine/ found information in English by putting that into a search engine.
[16:03]	TR Bot	 Operation "Mongoose Throw" is the Possible Name of the Russian False Flag Operation to Invade Ukraine | The Atlas Report
[16:03]	XRevan86	bnchs: A false attack by a mongoose to force an attack from a snake to then kill it.
[16:03]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: maybw ehen itm  poops
[16:03]	schestowitz-TR	or the "throw" they cover it with
[16:05]	bnchs	vlad they know now, shut it down!!
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	vlad are you talking about?
[16:07]	psydroid2	there is only one vlad and his other name is tepes!
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[16:20]	XRevan86	https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://znak.com/2022-02-20/video_o_bombe_pod_mostom_na_puti_evakuacii_bezhencev_bylo_sozdano_v_2019_godu They just don't learn.
[16:20]	TR Bot	 2019 
[16:20]	bnchs	are you russian?
[16:20]	XRevan86	bnchs: Is it that obvious?
[16:22]	bnchs	well uhhh
[16:22]	SomeH4x0r	I'm Ukrainian, but Russian is my first language
[16:23]	XRevan86	bnchs: That was a joke question :)
[16:23]	MinceR	vlad tepes was supposed to have died ages ago
[16:24]	MinceR	vladolf putler, on the other hand...
[16:24]	MinceR	20 163310 < schestowitz-TR> life is war 
[16:24]	MinceR	"Life is war. And I'm gonna win!" -- "Trench Head" Jones
[16:27]	XRevan86	"And I'm gonna win" <- Will go to heaven as a martyr?
[16:27]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/wheelchair.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-wheelchair#comic )
[16:27]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/wheelchair.png
[16:27]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[16:27]	MinceR	dunno
[16:27]		*psydroid2 , -
[16:27]	XRevan86	* 
[16:27]	MinceR	the quote is from Dark Heresy, a Warhammer 40000 RPG, so it's an obviously unrealistic expectation
[16:28]	psydroid2	
[16:28]	MinceR	also, it's from an imperial guardsman
[16:28]	psydroid2	it's been a few years
[16:28]	SomeH4x0r	* 
[16:28]	MinceR	probably
[16:28]	XRevan86	MinceR: My response is a quote from a certain Putin.
[16:29]	psydroid2	I guess I need to review that stuff some day
[16:30]	psydroid2	my friends told me about Surzhyk, some hillbilly mix between Ukrainian and Russian
[16:30]	SomeH4x0r	yes
[16:30]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: That's just too obvious :)
[16:31]	XRevan86	psydroid2: One could consider Scottish to be a mix of Scots and English
[16:32]	psydroid2	XRevan86, unless it's Scottish Gaelic, I guess
[16:32]	XRevan86	It's partly influence and partly just dialectal continuity.
[16:32]	XRevan86	psydroid2: Right, that's a very different language.
[16:32]	XRevan86	I meant Scottish English.
[16:33]	XRevan86	Belarusian and Russian also form a dialectical continuity.
[16:33]	psydroid2	I have this dichotomy as in Russian and Ukrainian in my native (heritage) languages too
[16:33]	XRevan86	Don't know about Ukrainian and Belarusian, but I would expect it.
[16:34]	psydroid2	one Western Hindi and one Eastern Hindi/Bihari language
[16:35]	psydroid2	when I was learning Russian and Ukrainian I found Ukrainian easier to learn based on what I already knew from Polish
[16:35]	XRevan86	psydroid2: That makes sense
[16:35]	psydroid2	just on Duolingo, but you have to start somewhere
[16:43]	psydroid2	s/as in/as with/
[16:52]	XRevan86	psydroid2: Belarusian would've been more friendly to someone familiar with Polish, but Duolingo doesn't teach it.
[16:57]	bnchs	is there a good free fiber optic router
[16:57]	bnchs	optical fiber*
[16:58]	bnchs	i mean free as in freedom
[16:59]	MinceR	(cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-15.jpg
[16:59]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-15.jpg
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[17:05]	psydroid2	XRevan86, there are many languages it doesn't teach for various opaque reasons. I've been learning Serbo-Croatian from a textbook, but that makes a bit less accessible to new learners.
[17:06]	psydroid2	the Arabic course on Duolingo is very succinct and doesn't teach much, but makes subsequent steps a bit less scary.
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[17:29]	TR News	There Was Never #Web2 So There Cannot be #Web3 and the Future of the Web Doesnt Look Good Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/future-of-the-web/ #Techrights #WWW #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/future-of-the-web/
[17:29]	TR Bot	 There Was Never Web 2.0, So There Cannot be Web 3 and the Future of the Web Doesnt Look Good | Techrights
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[17:36]	bnchs	web 3.0 should be the current state of the bloated web
[17:37]	bnchs	web 1.0 = lightweight personal sites, web 2.0 = lightweight and small social media, web 3.0 = modern bloated web sites (we are here now), web 4.0 = "decentralized" "crypto" meme
[17:40]	schestowitz-TR	HAHA
[17:41]	schestowitz-TR	 "crypto"
[17:41]	schestowitz-TR	whhhhaeva
[17:42]	bnchs	i'll do what i waent whaaeva
[17:42]	schestowitz-TR	and then she shut da door
[17:44]	bnchs	unprotected sex over 300 TIMES
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	i am uploading about 500mb of videos 
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	that'll take a while over this connection...
[17:45]	bnchs	whats your upload speed
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	I throttle it down a bit
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	so I can go other things in tandem
[17:46]	SomeH4x0r	schestowitz-TR: I have issues accessing the Gemini thing for the second time
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	30KB/sec first pass
[17:46]	SomeH4x0r	not found again
[17:46]	bnchs	i have a sub 0.8 kb/s upload speed but i uploaded 161 GB
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	theen up to 40
[17:46]	bnchs	seeded 161 GB in my torrent client
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	good
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	SomeH4x0r: which capsule?
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	we changed no coinfigs
[17:47]	SomeH4x0r	techrights, the links provided by the bots
[17:47]	SomeH4x0r	*news bot
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	ah, because it's not ready yet
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	it runs the job in the background
[17:47]	SomeH4x0r	are you serious, wtf? Clownflare kiwiirc frame?
[17:48]	SomeH4x0r	why can't you fucking self host?
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	I tried
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	but stopped short of installing the dependencies
[17:48]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/car-accident.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-car-accident#comic )
[17:48]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/car-accident.png
[17:48]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[17:48]	SomeH4x0r	why frame it?
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	check out the installation instructions to see what garbage that pulls over
[17:49]	SomeH4x0r	what about qwebirc?
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	I tried that also
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	it's still installed
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	they have hardly developed it in years
[17:49]	SomeH4x0r	doesn't matter
[17:49]	bnchs	schestowitz: i have an idea
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	check their repo
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	and you will see
[17:49]	bnchs	make the kiwiirc a link
[17:49]	SomeH4x0r	or Mibbit
[17:49]	bnchs	like webchat or something
[17:49]	SomeH4x0r	but why frames?
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	iirc, kiwiirc is tons of nosejs crap
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	and vue.js
[17:50]	SomeH4x0r	why you let Clownflare track people?
[17:50]	bnchs	you're loading kiwiirc in a frame
[17:50]	bnchs	which the browser will automatically load
[17:50]	bnchs	at least give links
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	there are links alwo
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	at bottom of articles
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	i didn't know it was clownflare
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	maybe that's a new thing
[17:51]	SomeH4x0r	it was for months at least
[17:51]	bnchs	i have frames disabled in my browser anyway
[17:51]	SomeH4x0r	I clearly see "Please wait..."
[17:51]	schestowitz-TR	I added that last year
[17:51]	bnchs	3rd party frames disabled*
[17:52]	SomeH4x0r	NetSurf has little configurable things
[17:52]	SomeH4x0r	other web browsers display CSS worse
[17:52]	schestowitz-TR	pia funded kiwiirc
[17:52]	schestowitz-TR	weird that
[17:52]	SomeH4x0r	(I mean alternative ones)
[17:52]	schestowitz-TR	1) freenode might still use clownflare
[17:52]	schestowitz-TR	and kiwi also
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	as they advertise privacy and vpns
[17:53]	SomeH4x0r	so don't frame shit
[17:53]	schestowitz	https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.techrights.org/?nick=techrights_guest|?&#038;theme=mini#techrights
[17:53]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: kiwiirc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.techrights.org/?nick=techrights_guest|?&#038;theme=mini#techrights
[17:53]	TR Bot	 Kiwi IRC - The web IRC client
[17:53]	bnchs	don't frame shit ever
[17:53]	bnchs	it's like forcefully load sites
[17:53]	SomeH4x0r	this double-agent stuff is annoying
[17:53]	schestowitz	are you sure it is clownflare... me checking
[17:53]	bnchs	increases your site size
[17:53]	SomeH4x0r	ok, I will screenshot it
[17:54]	bnchs	cloudflare CA
[17:54]	schestowitz	http://remote.12dt.com/rns/lookup.php
[17:54]	TR Bot	 Reverse DNS Lookup
[17:54]	schestowitz	(unable to resolve 172.67.68.85)
[17:55]	bnchs	try access kiwiirc.com via direct IP
[17:55]	bnchs	without domain
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[17:55]	schestowitz	"v"
[17:55]	schestowitz	oooof
[17:55]	schestowitz	"If you are interested in learning more about Cloudflare, please visit our website."
[17:55]	SomeH4x0r	https://www.executingreality.com/~someh4xx/tmp/clown.png
[17:56]	schestowitz	"Direct IP access not allowed"
[17:56]	schestowitz	Fake security
[17:56]	schestowitz	given that the irc stuff runs without CF, why even outsource the web page?
[17:56]	SomeH4x0r	it is what I see
[17:56]	schestowitz	most of the strain comes from serving the JS and managing it from the server side
[17:57]	schestowitz-TR	oh, nice. netsurf
[17:57]	schestowitz-TR	and it renders perfectly well
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	looks like it 'protects' you from  CF
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	and sends CF into a panic
[17:59]	bnchs	i'm pretty sure tor does it
[17:59]	bnchs	does too*
[17:59]	schestowitz-TR	I assumed so
[17:59]	schestowitz-TR	but ime
[17:59]	SomeH4x0r	yes, it is over Tor
[17:59]	schestowitz-TR	netsurf would not render kiwi regardless
[17:59]	schestowitz-TR	its handling of JS is not advanced enough
[17:59]	schestowitz-TR	ve.js
[17:59]	schestowitz-TR	vue.js
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[18:00]	schestowitz-TR	i have netsurf running 2/47 on tr
[18:00]	schestowitz-TR	it does not render that part
[18:00]	schestowitz-TR	which is OK
[18:02]	bnchs	i wanna end the web browser monopoly
[18:02]	schestowitz-TR	leave the web
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	and then that's a monopoly on scraps
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	problem is,
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	gulag controls the "apps" world too
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	so chrome isn't critical to them
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	soon steam deck will also spoil a gaming OS monopoly
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	except for consoles
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	i hear that a lot of "Games" are already just for "mobile"
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	microsodt:
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	we are gaming compan
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	we are clown company
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	we are security company
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	we are hardware company
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	what next?
[18:04]	bnchs	the latest techrights story is 2.5 MB uncompressed
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	we are ''open source'' (proprietary shithub) company
[18:04]	MinceR	MICROS~1 World Government
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	social control media (linkedin
[18:04]	bnchs	anyway, microsoft has been buying alot of companies
[18:05]	bnchs	including gaming companies
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	communication (skype, another lost monopoly)
[18:05]	bnchs	and locking them into their platform of windows and xbox
[18:05]	MinceR	nobody wants to use MICROS~1 products so MICROS~1 started buying companies to get their clients
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	they try to be "phones" company with nokia
[18:05]	bnchs	they even tried to buy discord and tiktok
[18:05]	MinceR	that's why they bought skype, shithub and zenimax
[18:05]	bnchs	probably to make it windows-exclusive
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	minecraft bow requires windows/ms account
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	ridiculous
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	account to play a game...
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	ugly game
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	fugly even
[18:06]	bnchs	yes
[18:06]	bnchs	even in the mobile version
[18:06]	bnchs	you need a xbox account to go online
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	lol
[18:07]	bnchs	it's probably gonna drive away users
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	microsoft: we have BILLIONS of users!!!!
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	gulag: we have BILLIONS of gmail accounts
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	(you need one to use chromeOS and Android iirc)
[18:07]	bnchs	schestowitz: you don't need one to use android
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	or just "pixel" ones
[18:07]	bnchs	you need one to use their gulag play store
[18:07]	bnchs	or any of their gulag services
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	so there you go
[18:08]	XRevan86	psydroid2: I don't think there's a reason other than that no one made the course.
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	gmail as your "chi["
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	*chip
[18:08]	bnchs	i wanted to talk to my teacher via email
[18:08]	bnchs	but he had a outlook email
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	microsoft email
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	with an old brand
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	using the living ones
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	now that hotmail is uncool
[18:08]	bnchs	microsoft rejects any email from any unwhitelisted email sites
[18:09]	schestowitz-TR	and msn is rotting away
[18:09]	bnchs	i tried to send one, but outlook sent me a response telling me my email didn't go through because i wasn't microsoft-approved
[18:09]	psydroid2	we are a joke of a company!
[18:09]	schestowitz-TR	awww
[18:09]	schestowitz-TR	psydroid2: bailout and graft company
[18:10]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[18:10]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[18:10]	bnchs	i fucking hate their email monopoly
[18:10]	bnchs	especially since our education system depends on their email crap
[18:10]	psydroid2	ultimately it's their "customers" who are propping them up
[18:10]	psydroid2	stop buying their malware and there will be no money left to continue
[18:10]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161668 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:10]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[18:11]	psydroid2	I tried to create a "free" oracle cloud account this morning
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR	psydroid2: so more n0o-bid pentagon contracts
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR	a contract with the pentagon for zune
[18:11]	psydroid2	everything went fine until it asked me for a "credit card"
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR	and otther dead ends like "hololens"
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR	contract with bob
[18:11]	psydroid2	so that was it, no oracle cloud account
[18:12]	bnchs	microsoft is refusing to believe that their OS is rotting
[18:12]	psydroid2	but it was good to see it myself
[18:12]	bnchs	only held by abandoned proprietary dinobabies programs
[18:12]	psydroid2	I think that is great for us
[18:12]	schestowitz-TR	psydroid2: Ariadn3 did an account with them
[18:12]	schestowitz-TR	and they did something horrible
[18:12]	bnchs	any program worth their shit got ported to GNU/Linux
[18:12]	schestowitz-TR	later corrected it only due to very bad publicity 
[18:12]	psydroid2	as long as microsoft refuses to believe it, they will not be implementing the real solution
[18:13]	schestowitz-TR	WSL!
[18:13]	schestowitz-TR	that too failed
[18:13]	schestowitz-TR	soon 5 years
[18:13]	bnchs	as long as they keep empolying these stupid decisions (like forcing an account or internet connection during setup)
[18:13]	psydroid2	WSL is a toy
[18:13]	schestowitz-TR	even its main shill left canonical
[18:13]	bnchs	they will drive away users
[18:13]	psydroid2	WSA is a toy
[18:13]	schestowitz-TR	works for suse/rancher on containers now
[18:14]	psydroid2	every other company and community outinnovates microsoft
[18:14]	psydroid2	whether that's a good or a bad thing
[18:14]	bnchs	the only things that need to be ported are work programs and games to GNU/Linux
[18:14]	psydroid2	yes
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	or
[18:14]	psydroid2	and that's a not a big thing
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	rely on proton/wine
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	not that it is good
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	but a compromise
[18:14]	bnchs	(except fortnite, fuck tim sweeney)
[18:15]	psydroid2	"find Windows program, look at what it does and write a new application with the same functionality for GNU/Linux"
[18:15]	bnchs	psydroid2: thats a better solution
[18:15]	psydroid2	I don't consider wine a solution for most applications
[18:15]	bnchs	you would need someone that use the program and tells you what features do which
[18:15]	psydroid2	it still ties you to windows and x86
[18:16]	psydroid2	so it can only be a temporary workaround
[18:16]	psydroid2	yes
[18:16]	bnchs	and document it for the developers
[18:16]	psydroid2	I did this before when I sat with an accountant friend of mine
[18:16]	psydroid2	he told me his requirements and I wrote the software
[18:16]	psydroid2	of course it changed a few times, but eventually he got what he needed
[18:17]	schestowitz-TR	no excel "tools"?
[18:17]	bnchs	yes
[18:17]	schestowitz-TR	ot MS Access? :-)
[18:17]	bnchs	it's easier for you, because your program only has 1 user
[18:17]	psydroid2	he did it in excel at first, but then we moved things to openoffice
[18:17]	schestowitz-TR	Ballmer said he uses Excelt as a CALENDAR
[18:17]	psydroid2	then I implemented a macro
[18:17]	bnchs	if there were billions of users
[18:17]	schestowitz-TR	Microsoft dinobaby
[18:17]	psydroid2	and then I rewrote the code to C++
[18:18]	bnchs	the best thing i could say
[18:18]	psydroid2	I was just short of implementing a GUI in Qt
[18:18]	bnchs	is write the basic parts of the program
[18:18]	schestowitz	bnchs: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4
[18:18]	schestowitz	2021 footage
[18:18]	bnchs	and ask accountants and shit for any possible feedback and feature requests
[18:18]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/NOPE-NOPE-NOPE.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/matt-nope-nope-nope#comic )
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[18:18]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[18:19]	psydroid2	microsoft is counting on business software staying on windows
[18:19]	bnchs	schestowitz, i didn't know if that was a beard or a hat on his mouth
[18:19]	bnchs	is that a mask?
[18:19]	psydroid2	but I think there is a generation of developers who are more comfortable with GNU/Linux
[18:19]	bnchs	it looked like a beard
[18:20]	schestowitz-TR	that's not what's important
[18:20]	bnchs	yes i know
[18:20]	bnchs	i wouldn't want him to rub my thigh
[18:21]	TR News	platform
[18:22]	TR News	Best Free Android Apps: #OpenLieroX - multiplayer PvP platform game - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-android-apps-openlierox-multiplayer-pvp-platform-game/
[18:22]	TR Bot	Free Android Apps: OpenLieroX - multiplayer PvP platform game - LinuxLinks
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR	"I pay your salary, not I get to touch your groin"
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR	*now
[18:23]	bnchs	psydroid2, developers have no choice, if they want to go to higher level, they have to use a UNIX/UNIX-like OS
[18:23]	bnchs	there's lots of important commands
[18:23]	bnchs	windows is simply a baby OS
[18:23]	TR News	Podcast #16 With Luke Short: #Steam on #ChromeOS is Coming & How #SteamDeck will change Linux Gaming - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/podcast-16-with-luke-short-how-far-are-we-from-having-steam-on-chromeos-and-how-the-steam-deck-will-change-linux-gaming/ #boilingsteam
[18:23]	TR Bot	 Podcast #16 With Luke Short: Steam on ChromeOS is Coming & How Steam Deck will change Linux Gaming - Boiling Steam
[18:24]	bnchs	i have a question
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR	Fisher Pr1OS
[18:25]	bnchs	is satan nutella a cover?
[18:25]	bnchs	for some secret CEO
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	lol
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	 satan nutella
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	 satan eats no nutella
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, msft is controlled by the board
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	who are tied to shareholders
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR	inc. bill gates
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR	who was tied to epstein
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR	but well, "he's dead"
[18:26]	bnchs	so bill gates is still in control?
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR	no
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR	partial
[18:26]	bnchs	or did he convince mr nutella to get a anti-competivite mindset like him
[18:27]	TR News	Speedpaintings Brushes, Tips and 4 Timelapses - Krita 5 - David Revoy https://www.davidrevoy.com/article893/speedpaintings-brushes-tips-and-4-timelapses-krita-5 #davidrevoy #krita #kde #art
[18:27]	TR Bot	 Speedpaintings Brushes, Tips and 4 Timelapses - Krita 5 - David Revoy
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR	nutella has conflict palmoil mindset
[18:28]	bnchs	nadella nutella
[18:28]	bnchs	same thing
[18:29]	psydroid2	satan nutella is part of the old clique
[18:29]	psydroid2	a "friendly" face on the same old pig
[18:29]	schestowitz-TR	casta nadella
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	career0climbing opportunist participating in the crimes
[18:30]	bnchs	"Hit Refresh: The quest to rediscover Microsoft's soul and imagine a better future for everyone"
[18:30]	bnchs	satan nutella's own book
[18:30]	schestowitz	not so "friendly" to women
[18:30]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/microsoft-gender-equality/
[18:30]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Gender (In)Equality: Women Dont Ask for Raises | Techrights
[18:30]	bnchs	in which the end, he found no soul in microsoft
[18:30]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Steve_Ballmer.jpg
[18:31]	bnchs	steve BALLmer
[18:31]	bnchs	a pair of balls on steve's face
[18:31]	XRevan86	https://cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-invasion-us-intelligence-orders/
[18:31]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: cbsnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-invasion-us-intelligence-orders/
[18:31]	TR Bot	 U.S. has intel that Russian commanders have orders to proceed with Ukraine invasion - CBS News
[18:31]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: .
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[18:32]	bnchs	oh no ukrainee
[18:32]	TR News	Some tricks for prettier xs http://blogs.perl.org/users/leon_timmermans/2022/02/some-tricks-for-prettier-xs.html #perl #programming
[18:32]	TR Bot	tricks for prettier xs | Leon Timmermans [blogs.perl.org]
[18:32]	XRevan86	bnchs: Yea, SomeH4x0r lives in Ukraine.
[18:33]	XRevan86	And I have *direct* interest in this as well.
[18:33]	TR News	Stop being USED by #microsoft #github and serve actual developers, not their foes https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/02/please-provide-tarball-releases-of-your.html #deletegithub
[18:33]	TR Bot	 Nibble Stew: Please provide tarball releases of your projects
[18:33]	XRevan86	So the sarcasm is not appropriate.
[18:34]	XRevan86	I'm pretty much thoroughly screwed.
[18:35]	TR News	"This is the 6th episode in a series I am writing about using #Slackware as your private/personal clown server. It is an unscheduled break-out topic to discuss an #Etherpad server specifically." https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-cloud-server-series-episode-6-etherpad-with-whiteboard/
[18:35]	TR Bot	 Slackware Cloud Server Series Episode 6: Etherpad with Whiteboard | Alien Pastures
[18:35]	bnchs	yes of course
[18:35]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: cbs?
[18:35]	schestowitz-TR	could be pure propaganda
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR	I look at this as onion with straight face
[18:36]	XRevan86	schestowitz: It's "US intelligence" again.
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR	haha
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR	yes
[18:36]	XRevan86	But they were right the previous time, so
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR	"intelligent"
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR	like dead colin powell
[18:36]	bnchs	US intelligence
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR	ask bloomberg
[18:36]	bnchs	they should remove the intelligence
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR	russia already invaded last month
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR	with cardboard tanks
[18:36]	bnchs	their IQs are going below the charts
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	better distract from wall street bubble
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	"NO TIME FOR ECONMY!!!!!! THIS IS W A R ! ! !"
[18:37]	bnchs	are they gonna start drafting people to military
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR	"so what if our companies are worth less than 10 times what we claim them to be worth?"
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR	"and so what if we have 30+ trillion in debt in millions without a root"
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: maybe they will start with the unhoused
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR	"free food... in ukraine"
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR	"FREE FLGIHTS"
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR	"GEE MAN!!! I'm going to EUROPE!!
[18:38]	bnchs	we already forcefully draft school dropouts to military
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR	so, you know what troops are like
[18:39]	psydroid2	oh wow
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR	"only the very best'
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR	dropouts platoons
[18:39]	psydroid2	go to school or join the military?
[18:39]	bnchs	yes
[18:39]	bnchs	the military website actually has a form
[18:39]	bnchs	where you can check if you're gonna be drafted
[18:39]	psydroid2	no one has tried to escape yet?
[18:40]	bnchs	people have, as soon as they saw their names on the website
[18:40]	psydroid2	they came looking for a friend of mine in ukraine in 2013
[18:40]	psydroid2	he's in thailand now and doesn't plan to go back to ukraine anytime soon
[18:41]	bnchs	they have to do it fast though
[18:41]	bnchs	as soon as they hear a knock from the military it's over
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: so they look at the site
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	and the name is there
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	and the webmaster says
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	"due, relax!!"
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	"it's only a DRAFT!"
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	 /*dude
[18:41]	bnchs	there's actually parody videos of it
[18:41]	bnchs	or skits
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	ah, ok
[18:42]	bnchs	but it's a real thing
[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	so others came up with this already
[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	like in bloomber
[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	one moment it's a draft
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[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	"Russia Invades Ukraine"
[18:42]	bnchs	people sweat just trying to click the button
[18:43]	schestowitz-TR	and then some cretin hits Publish
[18:45]	bnchs	actually what the dropout think when they try to escape
[18:45]	bnchs	is they try to injure themselves
[18:46]	schestowitz	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-04/statement-on-publishing-error
[18:46]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[18:46]	schestowitz	https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/bloomberg-apologises-for-accidentally-reporting-russia-invades-ukraine-kremlin-reacts-articleshow.html
[18:46]	TR Bot	 Bloomberg apologises for accidentally reporting 'Russia invades Ukraine'; Kremlin reacts
[18:46]	schestowitz	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bloomberg-apologized-accidentally-publishing-story-120805766.html
[18:46]	TR Bot	 Bloomberg has apologized for accidentally publishing a story headlined 'Russia Invades Ukraine'
[18:46]	schestowitz	fake news
[18:46]	schestowitz	no matter the cause
[18:46]	schestowitz	and now CBS
[18:47]	schestowitz	trying to get a reaction?
[18:47]	schestowitz	at CBS?
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[18:47]	schestowitz-TR	stay tuned for the "bill gates says..." piece
[18:47]	schestowitz-TR	gates is a ukraine expert
[18:47]	bnchs	https://www.tajnid.ma/
[18:48]	TR Bot	 
[18:48]	bnchs	"This space allows you to fill out the statistics form and make sure you are invited to perform military service as well as download the exemption application form. "
[18:48]	bnchs	you are invited
[18:48]	bnchs	not drafted but INVITED
[18:48]	schestowitz-TR	uncle sam
[18:48]	schestowitz-TR	to people in the african coat
[18:48]	schestowitz-TR	you are invited to a hot meal
[18:48]	schestowitz-TR	hop onboarrd the ship
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	you are invited to fasten your chain
[18:50]	TR News	On the #Internet , the share of the #WorldWideWeb relative to other protocols is waning (partly due to mobile platforms) and one must adapt or perish Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/future-of-the-web/ #Techrights #WWW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/future-of-the-web/
[18:50]	TR Bot	 There Was Never Web 2.0, So There Cannot be Web 3 and the Future of the Web Doesnt Look Good | Techrights
[18:50]	bnchs	don't worry it's just an invitation that you can't refuse
[18:50]	schestowitz-TR	be there or be squared
[18:50]	schestowitz-TR	by a tank
[18:51]	TR News	#GNOME #Portfolio 0.9.13 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161669 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:51]	TR Bot	 Portfolio 0.9.13 | Tux Machines
[18:52]	bnchs	clicking on the button says "The period of statistics on military service ended on Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 12 pm."
[18:52]	bnchs	sad
[18:55]	bnchs	they'll probably do it next year
[18:56]	bnchs	but i remember seeing a bunch of military ads before it ended
[18:56]	bnchs	s/ads/propaganda/
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[18:57]	schestowitz-TR	who does the country fight?
[18:58]	schestowitz-TR	psydroid2: larabel wrote to me but did not dispute what I had suspected
[18:58]	schestowitz-TR	he brought up a bunch of unrelated stuff
[18:58]	schestowitz	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-SDSi-Platform-x86-Queued
[18:58]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-SDSi-Platform-x86-Queued
[18:58]	TR Bot	Software Defined Silicon Driver Queued Up Ahead Of Linux 5.18 - Phoronix
[18:58]	schestowitz	now he trawls git repos
[18:59]	schestowitz	all day long today
[18:59]	schestowitz	as even the mailing lists lack material
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR	it's basically converting gitlog into a little prose
[18:59]	psydroid2	michael sweeney
● Feb 20
[19:00]	bnchs	i really don't know what the fuck are they fighting
[19:00]	bnchs	they don't say shit
[19:00]	psydroid2	in collaboration with his spiritual brother tim sweeney
[19:00]	psydroid2	bringing up unrelated stuff is a form of deflection from the matter at hand
[19:01]	psydroid2	phoronix died for me
[19:01]	psydroid2	cnx-software isn't quite there but getting there
[19:02]	psydroid2	maybe he can get hired by LF?
[19:02]	psydroid2	or maybe LF is already paying him?
[19:03]	schestowitz-TR	who?
[19:03]	schestowitz-TR	m sweeney?
[19:03]	psydroid2	yes
[19:03]	schestowitz-TR	they don't get along too well irc. they don't even inovte him to events
[19:03]	schestowitz-TR	LF is very suit-like
[19:03]	psydroid2	so what does he actually think he is doing?
[19:03]	schestowitz-TR	they need people who do NOT use Linux
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	as Linux users MIGHT oust the managment one day
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	they cannot afford that risk
[19:04]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161670 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:04]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[19:04]	psydroid2	he's alienating everyone who used to read his site
[19:04]	TR News	Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Krita, Steam, and Going Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161671 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:04]	TR Bot	 Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Krita, Steam, and Going Linux | Tux Machines
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	he annoyed rianne ages ago
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	I gave him years of grave period
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	same with spamnil and sjvn
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	rianne hated their guts years ago
[19:05]		*bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	and I was being patient
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	trying to show them things
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	like stefano now... at OSI
[19:05]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/11/24/microsoft-loves-linux-meme/
[19:05]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Jimmy Zemlin Loves Microsoft | Techrights
[19:06]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/lf-cannot-use-linux/
[19:06]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Linux Foundation Cant Use Linux | Techrights
[19:06]	schestowitz	psydroid2: LF in 5 second clip: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/zemlin-go-away.gif
[19:07]	psydroid2	I think she has an intuition about people and not that much patience
[19:08]	TR News	#Winamp Reborn with the Adafruit PyPortal https://hackaday.com/2022/02/20/winamp-reborn-with-the-adafruit-pyportal/ they could, instead, use #freesw like #xmms or #audacious from Ariadne
[19:08]	TR Bot	Reborn With The Adafruit PyPortal | Hackaday
[19:08]	psydroid2	I would consider it a gift well worth having
[19:08]	schestowitz-TR	yes
[19:09]	schestowitz-TR	but I don't want to squeeze the trigger until I am sure
[19:09]	Ariadne	schestowitz: that project is not actually using winamp, it is just supporting winamp skins (like audacious does)
[19:09]	schestowitz-TR	with spamnil I wasted years
[19:09]	schestowitz-TR	showed him evil things Microsoft was doing
[19:09]	schestowitz-TR	and Microsoft was sending people to brainwash him and others
[19:09]	schestowitz-TR	Ariadne: yeah
[19:09]	schestowitz-TR	but they could plug in a mention for your project
[19:09]	Ariadne	ironically, microsoft is the first to step up to the plate and provide alpine with infrastructure after i shamed all of them for making billions on alpine and not giving us a single server
[19:09]	Ariadne	which surprised me
[19:10]	Ariadne	i mean, i'm not surprised my critique fell on deaf ears at AWS
[19:10]	schestowitz-TR	it';s not a gift
[19:10]	Ariadne	no, it's not
[19:10]	schestowitz-TR	they want something in return
[19:10]	schestowitz-TR	like wsl
[19:10]	Ariadne	in this case, they want local repos for their customers
[19:10]	schestowitz-TR	aws is not opposite of microsoft
[19:10]	schestowitz-TR	they're like apple and microsoft
[19:10]	Ariadne	yes
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	microsoft azure is failing
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	cancellations
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	and layoffs
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	even reports of DCs shutting down
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	they won't admit it
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	as shareholders would flee
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	so they bargain from a position of weakness
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	aws can be arrogant
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	and ignore elastic etc.
[19:12]	Ariadne	i mean, my point is
[19:13]	Ariadne	alpine is between 40% and 60% of all container workloads running on these clouds
[19:13]	Ariadne	using *their* data
[19:13]	Ariadne	they could give us some servers to support *their* customers
[19:13]	TR News	#Programming things that have gotten easier https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/02/20/things-that-used-to-be-hard-and-are-now-easy/ #jvns
[19:13]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: jvns.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/02/20/things-that-used-to-be-hard-and-are-now-easy/
[19:13]	TR Bot	 Programming things that have gotten easier
[19:13]	psydroid2	they want to keep all revenue to themselves and want nothing to go to alpine?
[19:13]	Ariadne	yes
[19:13]	schestowitz-TR	for "Sahreholders"
[19:13]	schestowitz-TR	the religion of money
[19:14]	Ariadne	psydroid2: i dont care about $$$ i care about servers
[19:14]	schestowitz-TR	ride a rocket to space
[19:14]	psydroid2	Ariadne, the servers are $$$ that they'd rather keep
[19:14]	Ariadne	yes
[19:15]	Ariadne	meanwhile the alpine infrastructure is buckling under the load, which is bad for their customers
[19:15]	Ariadne	which is bad for their $$$
[19:15]	TR News	DSE digital transformation recap https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/dse-digital-transformation-recap #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
[19:15]	TR Bot	 DSE digital transformation recap
[19:16]	psydroid2	if alpine went under they'd gladly pick up the pieces and bring them in-house
[19:16]	Ariadne	which will cost them even more money
[19:17]	Ariadne	and, the main reason alpine is popular is because it's not corporate
[19:22]	Ariadne	psydroid2: i think alpine is not at any risk of "going under," either
[19:23]	psydroid2	Ariadne, I didn't want to imply that, but I see these companies as hostile when they make billions off of the hard work of alpine and can't even sponsor some build infrastructure
[19:23]	Ariadne	i agree
[19:23]	Ariadne	which is why i shamed them
[19:23]	schestowitz-TR	it's called github
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	and not only the slavewner uses it
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	*owner
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	gulag and ibm do too
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	go upload code for us
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	please uses non-reciprocal licence
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	so we need not give anyuthing in return
[19:25]	Ariadne	in most cases
[19:25]	Ariadne	i don't actually want to receive code back anymore
[19:25]	Ariadne	because the code i receive back is usually unusable
[19:25]	schestowitz-TR	people care about their own projects
[19:25]	schestowitz-TR	others hack on those
[19:26]	schestowitz-TR	maybe that's why torvalds rejects pr from microsoft 
[19:26]	schestowitz-TR	(viat github)
[19:26]	Ariadne	"we solved bug blahblah"
[19:26]	Ariadne	[patch is entirely useless because it only solves it in one specific configuration]
[19:26]	schestowitz-TR	it's not their project
[19:26]	Ariadne	i have considered making an april fools license
[19:26]	schestowitz-TR	it's a project they use
[19:27]	Ariadne	wherein you're forbidden to send code back
[19:27]	Ariadne	:D
[19:27]	schestowitz-TR	text can be the same
[19:27]	schestowitz-TR	when someone offers an improvement
[19:27]	schestowitz-TR	and it actually changes the message
[19:27]	schestowitz-TR	and is someone else's
[19:28]	schestowitz-TR	i hated this when doing my thesis
[19:28]	schestowitz-TR	and you must concede a lot of the time because "supervisor is always right"
[19:28]	schestowitz-TR	and you are always "just a student"
[19:28]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22021623
[19:28]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/5adiy0y3igh81.jpg created on 2022-02-16 08:23:11.585447
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: lol
[19:30]	TR News	#IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 164 is available for testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161672 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:30]	TR Bot	 IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 164 is available for testing | Tux Machines
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[19:33]	TR News	All About Dichroic Optical Filters | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/20/all-about-dichroic-optical-filters/ #hackaday
[19:33]	TR Bot	About Dichroic Optical Filters | Hackaday
[19:34]	TR News	"There is a new application available for Sparkers: Mailspring" https://sparkylinux.org/mailspring/ only the GUI is #freesw
[19:34]	TR Bot	 Mailspring SparkyLinux
[19:38]	TR News	cc// @Dr. Roy Schestowitz ()
[19:41]	schestowitz	#PeaZip 8.5.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161673 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachine
[19:41]	TR Bot	 PeaZip 8.5.0 | Tux Machines
[19:43]	psydroid2	the thing I'm wondering about is whether the clown can ever be put back into the circus from where it escaped
[19:46]	TR News	Much appreciated. The "TAKEDOWN NOTICE" in #joindiapora seems to have been removed some time in the past 30 minutes. @glynmoody
[19:47]	TR News	Computers and paper: BFFs forever [prologue] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161674 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:47]	TR Bot	 Computers and paper: BFFs forever [prologue] | Tux Machines
[19:58]	MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/qSKAFMt.jpg
[19:58]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/qSKAFMt.jpg
● Feb 20
[20:00]	XRevan86	MinceR: And Superman was driven over by an ber.
[20:00]	MinceR	lol
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[20:18]	XRevan86	https://smbc-comics.com/comic/fan
[20:18]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fan
[20:22]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: Another possibility is that this is escalation for the sake of escalation to get something out of this situation before full capitulation (declaration of L/DPR's "independence").
[20:23]	XRevan86	(capitulation of any ambition on Ukraine by Russia)
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[20:32]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, You can rent access to a "cloud Windows PC" though.
[20:32]	DaemonFC	Big market for that, right?
[20:44]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/19/180-days-in-jail-for-man-convicted-in-drunk-driving-hit-and-run-crash-that-killed-woman-near-marengo/
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[20:44]	TR Bot	 180 days in jail for man convicted in drunk driving hit-and-run crash that killed woman near Marengo
[20:44]	DaemonFC	180 days for murdering a woman and then fleeing the scene in the Happiest State in Bestest Country.
[20:51]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Practice: "Hello!? I have just murdered a man!" Guy yelling out the window: "Hey, shut up down there!". Practice: "I said I have murdered a man and I would like to confess!" *checks his watch....still no police*
[20:51]	DaemonFC	Last Action Hero was underrated a bit.
[20:53]	MinceR	:)
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[20:58]	psydroid2	I'm more and more inclined to think that what we are seeing in terms of technology and society is that their downfall is just a symptom of the total collapse of civilisation
[20:58]	psydroid2	the question is: where do we go from where we are now?
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[21:07]	DaemonFC	Well, the IRS approved my tax refund. Yay.
[21:07]	DaemonFC	Money money money money! Money.....
[21:08]	DaemonFC	They were warning people that there could be severe delays.
[21:08]	MinceR	(cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/18/morning-funny-pic-dump-2-18-22/
[21:08]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/18/morning-funny-pic-dump-2-18-22/
[21:08]	TR Bot	 Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics)
[21:09]	DaemonFC	I was reading how they pull people up for an audit. Apparently, no humans are ever involved. Computer matching software sees if your income and deductions and credits sound right and it assigns each return a "risk score" from 000 to 999.
[21:10]	DaemonFC	The closer to 999 it gets, the more risky the return, and the more likely the computer is to assign it for an audit. People who have been audited before are automatically "riskier" so they start with a "penalty" assigned to their SSN or ITIN in future years and are more likely to be audited again because of this.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	What makes a return "riskier" is if it claims widely abused credits, credits that are obviously not allowed given what's on the rest of the return, "nice round numbers", and income that significantly deviates from what the IRS already had on file.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	There's no actual need to file a return, Congress just prevents the IRS from sending you one that's already completed, for free, for your review, to prop up a tax return software industry.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	Where you have to calculate what the IRS already knows, and pay a tax firm to submit it.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	And possibly get something wrong.
[21:12]	DaemonFC	Republicans were the strongest opposition. They claimed that they were concerned that the IRS wouldn't have your best interests in mind when preparing a tax return and might not give you all of the credits you deserve.
[21:12]	DaemonFC	But that's ridiculous. You could always amend it and send it back and tell them why, and it would be no more of a hassle than filing a return is today.
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[21:17]	bnchs	i can't afford a domain or server
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[21:22]	psydroid2	for what?
[21:27]	psydroid2	I wonder where the cheapest domains and servers are
[21:28]	psydroid2	depending on the kinds you need
[21:39]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22021471
[21:39]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/g40mdtzkehh81.jpg created on 2022-02-14 22:27:28.577430
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[22:08]	bnchs__	psydroid2: for my website
[22:12]	psydroid2	bnchs__, how much does it cost over there?
[22:13]	bnchs__	about 200 DH a month
[22:13]	bnchs__	but i prefer not hosting here
[22:14]	psydroid2	I know
[22:14]	psydroid2	I just wanted to know how it would compare to hosting elsewhere
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[22:19]	psydroid2	I know Hetzner here in Europe
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[22:24]	TR News	#zdnet could link to the original instead of #zdnet https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/02/20/1915222/linux-developers-patch-bugs-faster-than-microsoft-apple-and-google-study-shows
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[22:24]	TR Bot	 Linux Developers Patch Bugs Faster Than Microsoft, Apple, and Google, Study Shows - Slashdot
[22:24]	TR News	#GTG 0.6 release candidate Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161675 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:24]	TR Bot	 GTG 0.6 release candidate | Tux Machines
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[22:33]	TR News	OwnCloud with Raspberry PI: self host your private cloud https://peppe8o.com/owncloud-with-raspberry-pi-self-host-your-private-cloud/ #peppe8o | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/20/#latest
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[22:33]	TR Bot	 OwnCloud with Raspberry PI: self host your private cloud
[22:33]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[22:34]	TR News	Why and #HowTo start with the system #Ruby modular packages https://nts.strzibny.name/ruby-modular-packages/ #nts #programming
[22:34]	TR Bot	 Why and how to start with the system Ruby modular packages
[22:37]	TR News	"Gian Demarmels and Lucien Heuzeveldt have finished their Bachelor's thesis which adds a second blind signature scheme to #GNUTaler ." https://taler.net/en/news/2022-02.html
[22:37]	TR Bot	 GNU Taler
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[22:43]	bnchs__	why do dating apps have geolocation
[22:43]	schestowitz-TR	well, dug
[22:43]	schestowitz-TR	dug
[22:43]	schestowitz-TR	they are not dating apps
[22:43]	schestowitz-TR	they are beacons
[22:44]	schestowitz-TR	that sometimes find weirdoes for you... to get laid and get STD
[22:44]	bnchs__	yes what about stuff like gay and bi dating
[22:44]	bnchs__	and lesbian dating
[22:44]	bnchs__	that have these geolocation shit
[22:44]	schestowitz-TR	it's not about that
[22:45]	schestowitz-TR	there are apps [sic] for everyone
[22:45]	schestowitz-TR	and the key point is, it collects data
[22:45]	bnchs__	that the police use to track you down
[22:45]	schestowitz-TR	they do sting operations too
[22:46]	schestowitz-TR	it's for every dumb ass with "smart" "phone"
[22:46]	bnchs__	yes
[22:46]	bnchs__	every app in the play store has ads or tracking
[22:47]	schestowitz-TR	it's a prominent thing, a business moidel
[22:47]	schestowitz-TR	they seem to think it's an anathema to write some software that does NOT collect your data
[22:47]	bnchs__	even basic shit like a hex editor
[22:48]	bnchs__	has ads and analytics
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	not to mention the OS
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	and ISP
[22:51]	bnchs__	the only good apps are free software
[22:51]	bnchs__	they don't have obnoxious ads or shitty tracking
[22:51]	bnchs__	that even track your GPS location
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	"voice" "prints"
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	we eavesdrop
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	"only a little"
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	"for now"
[22:52]	schestowitz-TR	"maybe more later"
[22:52]	schestowitz-TR	"without your consent"
[22:52]	bnchs__	this is the problem
[22:52]	schestowitz-TR	"hey, you did press OK on "microphone something" when you installed this, right|?"
[22:52]	bnchs__	there's games that NEED to have GPS location
[22:52]	schestowitz-TR	"to improve your experience"
[22:53]	TR News	#Linux 5.17-rc5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161676 #TuxMachines
[22:53]	TR Bot	 Linux 5.17-rc5 | Tux Machines
[22:54]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161677 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:54]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[22:55]	bnchs__	mobile games are straight up gambling
[22:55]	TR News	"Every time I mention Asahi Linux someone complains about it asks what even is the point of #Asahi Linux why would anyone ever want to run #Linux on a #M1 Silicon Mac, well why not." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uOLrvR7jm2I
[22:55]	TR Bot	 What's The Point Of Asahi Linux: Linux On A Mac - Invidious
[22:55]	bnchs__	"uh oh looks like you don't have enough [GENERIC VIRTUAL CURRENCY], looks like you gonna pay real money for [GENERIC VIRTUAL CURRENCY]"
[22:56]	bnchs__	they also just split up the currency into 2
[22:56]	bnchs__	one that's common, and the other is pretty rare
[22:56]	bnchs__	and most of the items are gonna rely on the rare currency
[22:56]	bnchs__	how do you get it? with real money of course
[22:57]	bnchs__	basically the pay2win business model
[22:58]	TR News	#ReverseEngineering A 900 MHz RC Transmitter And Receiver | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/20/reverse-engineering-a-900-mhz-rc-transmitter-and-receiver/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/20/#latest
[22:58]	TR Bot	Engineering A 900 MHz RC Transmitter And Receiver | Hackaday
[22:58]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
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[23:00]	TR News	" #CopperSpice is a collection of libraries a toolkit, if you will for developing cross-platform applications in C++. That should sound familiar to #KDE people, and it is an LGPL v2.1 fork of #Qt from around 2013" https://euroquis.nl//freebsd/2022/02/20/copperspice.html
[23:00]	TR Bot	 Packaging CopperSpice | [bobulate]
[23:01]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22021462
[23:01]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/8mo5umlzahh81.jpg created on 2022-02-14 18:20:59.997053
[23:01]	TR News	" #Wazuh is able to detect vulnerabilities in the applications installed in agents using the Vulnerability Detector module. This software audit is performed through the integration of vulnerability feeds indexed by Canonical, Debian, Red Hat, and the National Vulnerability Database." https://unixcop.com/wazuh-vulnerability-detection/
[23:01]	TR Bot	 Wazuh Vulnerability detection - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
[23:02]	bnchs__	there's entire games about buying lootboxes that may or may not contain the character you want
[23:02]	bnchs__	because you can't straight up buy it
[23:02]	bnchs__	like gacha games
[23:03]	schestowitz-TR	games nowadays mostly suck
[23:03]	schestowitz-TR	mostly
[23:03]	schestowitz-TR	too much focus on hardware
[23:03]	schestowitz-TR	not gameplay
[23:03]	schestowitz-TR	and fun
[23:03]	schestowitz-TR	realism
[23:03]	schestowitz-TR	and not accessibility
[23:03]	bnchs__	they focus too much on eyecandy
[23:03]	bnchs__	pixar-like graphics
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	except
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	pixar does it 'off-line'
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	ray-tracing and stuff with trillions of cycles per frame
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	a game cannot do this
[23:04]	bnchs__	true
[23:04]	bnchs__	pixar has entire renderfarms
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	they fake it
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	like doing psrites with textures
[23:05]	schestowitz-TR	those textures barely change as you move around
[23:05]	schestowitz-TR	*sprites
[23:05]	bnchs__	developers focus way too much on graphics, that they can't make a good story
[23:06]	MinceR	story is not sufficient for a good game
[23:06]	MinceR	nor is it required
[23:06]	bnchs__	i play games for the plot and story
[23:07]	MinceR	you'll love movies then :><
[23:07]	MinceR	s/.$//
[23:08]	bnchs__	games can be like movies
[23:08]	bnchs__	linear games like half-life
[23:09]	MinceR	i'm not really impressed with half-life 1
[23:09]	bnchs__	yes
[23:11]	bnchs__	i played hl1, hl2, hl2ep1, hl2ep2
[23:11]	bnchs__	just to see where the story's going to go
[23:12]	schestowitz-TR	quests used to be like that
[23:12]	schestowitz-TR	they built a fantasy world of some kind
[23:12]	schestowitz-TR	kings, space, police, even sex (LSL)
[23:12]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> that sometimes find weirdoes for you... to get laid and get STD
[23:13]	DaemonFC	Done it before.
[23:13]	schestowitz-TR	and then you play to unlock new scenes and scenarios
[23:13]	DaemonFC	I'm not really a people person.
[23:13]	DaemonFC	But I got checked out routinely and before I got married.
[23:13]	schestowitz-TR	monkey island did not look too good, but the story was decent 
[23:13]	schestowitz-TR	tentacle2
[23:13]	DaemonFC	So I know I don't have anything.
[23:13]	DaemonFC	Of course, the "They can show up with a gun or a knife." threat is bigger than the STD threat with those apps.
[23:14]	DaemonFC	We know how to avoid STDs. Vaccines, condoms, PrEP. If you're not going to be monogamous, at least be smart.
[23:14]	schestowitz-TR	Is that what they call their.. -> "They can show up with a gun or a knife." 
[23:15]	bnchs__	schestowitz-TR: what's LSL
[23:15]	DaemonFC	There have been gay people lured into some Silence of the Lambs shit with Grindr.
[23:15]	DaemonFC	REad about grindr hate crimes.
[23:15]	schestowitz-TR	leisure suit larry
[23:15]	DaemonFC	Do a web search.
[23:15]	schestowitz-TR	how old are you?
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[23:16]	schestowitz-TR	hi, techrights_guest|4
[23:16]	bnchs__	i actually never heard of this game
[23:16]	bnchs__	i'm 22
[23:16]	schestowitz-TR	I think they had like 6 parts of sequels
[23:16]	schestowitz-TR	*or
[23:16]	schestowitz-TR	it was sort of child-approved
[23:17]	schestowitz-TR	but challenged people to play the game
[23:17]	schestowitz-TR	sierra
[23:17]	schestowitz-TR	not sure you know sierra
[23:17]	DaemonFC	People freak out over games and children.
[23:18]	schestowitz-TR	because of violence?
[23:18]	schestowitz-TR	addiction?
[23:18]	DaemonFC	And Crimethink.
[23:18]	schestowitz-TR	costs?
[23:18]	DaemonFC	Yeah, you know, they don't want people thinking too much and in ways that are not "approved" of.
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[23:19]	schestowitz-TR	I actually wonder if LSL would be received today like in the 1990s
[23:19]	schestowitz-TR	obviously young people played the game
[23:19]	schestowitz-TR	it didn't show any nipples or anything and was just animated
[23:19]	schestowitz-TR	but LSL is "womaniser"
[23:20]	schestowitz-TR	so some angry people who say it's offensive to women or something
[23:20]	schestowitz-TR	there was also iceman
[23:20]	schestowitz-TR	in hawaii iirc
[23:20]	schestowitz-TR	all those romance games
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[23:21]	techrights_guest|471	interesting website :)
[23:21]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codename:_ICEMAN
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Codename: ICEMAN - Wikipedia
[23:21]	schestowitz	1989
[23:21]	schestowitz	techrights_guest|471: hello
[23:21]	schestowitz	I found iceman hard
[23:21]	kingoffrance	i never played any of them really, but i assume LSL was somewhat spoofing of maniac mansion, "hugo" type games
[23:21]	kingoffrance	like its a "mystery" ...of how to get laid lol
[23:22]	bnchs__	well i did play postal 2
[23:22]	bnchs__	i found that game a bit weird
[23:23]	kingoffrance	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo's_House_of_Horrors  "shareware for greater value" for great justice
[23:23]	TR Bot	 Hugo's House of Horrors - Wikipedia
[23:24]	schestowitz-TR	I once made a very long list of games I had played and still remembered
[23:24]	schestowitz-TR	I was bored at some lecture
[23:24]	schestowitz-TR	PDFd the thing..
[23:25]	psydroid8	it looks like the era of great games is already over
[23:25]	schestowitz-TR	ages ago
[23:26]	schestowitz-TR	there used to be other challenged lie realise in 256 colours
[23:26]	schestowitz-TR	2^3*3
[23:26]	schestowitz-TR	and compacting things to fit floppy disks
[23:26]	schestowitz-TR	bloated gmae =- more floppies
[23:27]	schestowitz-TR	more risk and higher cost
[23:27]	schestowitz-TR	no "app" store
[23:27]	schestowitz-TR	no pacthes or updates
[23:27]	schestowitz-TR	so you REALLY need to test before mastering and mass production/distribution
[23:28]	kingoffrance	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecstatica  i remember this, mostly had a bunch of shareware things.  ellipsoid graphics -- fast and looked better.   this was 1994 slightly before 3d cards.
[23:28]	TR Bot	 Ecstatica - Wikipedia
[23:28]	TR News	#Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161678 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:28]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[23:28]	kingoffrance	The main advantage is the organic-looking characters. Triangles tend to make hard, robotic-looking figures, whereas ellipsoids can be used to create more rounded, human alternatives. Ellipsoids can also be more efficient because you can make a much better looking character out of fewer shapes
[23:29]	kingoffrance	consider playstation 1 still had blocky polygons...
[23:30]	kingoffrance	hardware constraints can sometimes help "looks" too
[23:30]	MinceR	ps1 was plagued more by inaccurate integer-only 3D math and lack of perspective correction
[23:30]	schestowitz-TR	screen resoluton was not fine yet
[23:30]	bnchs__	and also that affine texturing
[23:30]	schestowitz-TR	and now they make energy-sucking hardware to render stuff you cannot see anyway
[23:30]	schestowitz-TR	esp. in a living room
[23:31]	bnchs__	iirc developers had workarounds about the lack of perspective correction
[23:33]	MinceR	yeah, like running the game on a PC instead :>
[23:34]	TR News	#cat https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Photo_of_a_kitten.jpg
[23:34]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Photo_of_a_kitten.jpg
[23:34]	TR Bot	 File:Photo of a kitten.jpg - Wikimedia Commons
[23:34]	SomeH4x0r	Wikimedia turns shit too?
[23:34]	SomeH4x0r	as in Clownflare
[23:34]	bnchs__	i remember playing postal 2 when it was ported to GNU/Linux
[23:35]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22021436
[23:35]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/bn85l4836lh81.jpg created on 2022-02-14 11:54:25.672901
[23:36]	TR News	Wrong switch https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_4ba4d04699b3867fa7e8.jpg
[23:36]	SomeH4x0r	fuck MediaWiki regardless, at least for their evil blockid cookie
[23:36]	bnchs__	mediawiki is the best wiki program, because it's one of the only wikis you can run without javascript
[23:37]	SomeH4x0r	I think there should be less heavy ones
[23:38]	TR News	#joindiaporta 5 years ago https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_bf365ca344e7fee98e4e.jpg
[23:38]	bnchs__	they made an effort not to "let themselves go" and make their website bloated with shit
[23:39]	bnchs__	SomeH4x0r: what are the alternatives
[23:40]	TR News	#cat #balloon https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYPsVijgsPy63L2/giphy.gif
[23:40]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: giphy.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYPsVijgsPy63L2/giphy.gif
[23:40]	SomeH4x0r	I don't think it is difficult to write a thing which just stores stuff in a database and lets strangers do changes while recording them
[23:41]	bnchs__	yes
[23:41]	bnchs__	you could use a blockchain (not crypto meme)
[23:41]	bnchs__	since it's just a bunch of patch files
[23:43]	SomeH4x0r	yes, as long as it doesn't cause issues like requiring a "powerful" CPU
[23:44]	bnchs__	not that crypto meme blockchain, it's a bunch of patch files with SHA512 checksum
[23:45]	bnchs__	any patch deletion has to signed by an admin or anyone with his PGP private key
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[23:52]	XRevan86	MinceR: That boy's brain is free of chemical reactions.
[23:53]	schestowitz-TR	free radicalsa
[23:54]	bnchs___	it didn't say "grown adults"
[23:55]	MinceR	XRevan86: lol
[23:55]	bnchs___	so it would have been a room full of babies
[23:56]	bnchs___	"In a room of 1000 people, you would be smarter than 91 of them"
[23:56]	bnchs___	you would be smarter than only 91 people in the room
[23:57]	XRevan86	These tests are not actually scientific, but it's not really about the test or the boy :)
[23:57]	XRevan86	bnchs___: So ye got the point :)
[23:57]	bnchs___	the joke is that the mom thought it was a percentage
[23:58]	XRevan86	The mum failed the intelligence test, yes.
[23:58]	XRevan86	On several levels.
[23:59]	bnchs___	she would have been off the bell curve if she was the one doing the IQ test