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| DaemonFC[m] | https://decrypt.co/26025/rubygems-bitcoin-stealing-software-reversinglabs?amp=1 | Apr 20 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-decrypt.co | Bitcoin stealer infected 700+ libraries of major programming language - Decrypt | Apr 20 02:51 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I got bored and did a DIY cat tree with Aldi boxes and duct tape. | Apr 20 06:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This lockdown has to end. | Apr 20 06:18 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: really lockdown can last another 8 weeks and I still will not be caught up with my garden. | Apr 20 06:22 |
| oiaohm | Let alone the house. | Apr 20 06:22 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Trump knows the lockdowns will go on for a while. He's pretending it's the fault of governors so that his own supporters won't just stay home on election day because "Fuck this guy.". So he's causing all kinds of problems. | Apr 20 06:27 |
| psydread | so they can vote and die | Apr 20 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His idiots are going to protest their governors, including protesting the Republicans in Indiana where Governor Holcomb is going to have to deal with the surge of new infections in the flaming bag of dogshit Trump left on their doorstep. | Apr 20 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump doesn't care if my mom or my family in Indiana dies, even though they love him. | Apr 20 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're pawns to him. | Apr 20 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His plague is in all of the nursing homes while he has these jagoffs protesting and infecting each other. | Apr 20 06:30 |
| oiaohm | Really we don't know enough about covid-19 yet. | Apr 20 06:32 |
| oiaohm | Like how longer does a person have immunity to covid-19 | Apr 20 06:33 |
| oiaohm | and if you have it more than once is the lung damage collective. | Apr 20 06:33 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Apr 20 07:47 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Apr 20 07:47 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Apr 20 07:47 | |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/01/21/69c4422b9b1afa5b.jpg | Apr 20 11:46 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/20/8e28d408bed97489.mp4 | Apr 20 12:11 |
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| MinceR | https://project-evidence.github.io/ | Apr 20 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-project-evidence.github.io | Evidence SARS-CoV-2 Emerged From a Biological Laboratory in Wuhan, China | Apr 20 12:37 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: is it credible? | Apr 20 13:11 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 20 13:11 |
| schestowitz | (the domain (Microsoft) aside?) | Apr 20 13:11 |
| schestowitz | is it a joke? | Apr 20 13:11 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem to be a joke | Apr 20 13:11 |
| *schestowitz opens | Apr 20 13:11 | |
| MinceR | i saved a mirror, just in case microsloth decides to delete it | Apr 20 13:11 |
| *schestowitz checks who wrote this and professional creds | Apr 20 13:11 | |
| schestowitz | "We are an anonymous group of researchers." | Apr 20 13:12 |
| schestowitz | 'An earlier version of this document referred to us as "Project E.P.S.T.E.I.N." (Evidence Plausibly Supporting Theories Explaining Infection Naturality)" | Apr 20 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Seems self-discrediting tbh | Apr 20 13:12 |
| *schestowitz stops reading | Apr 20 13:12 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: found via/context? | Apr 20 13:16 |
| schestowitz | I stopped reading for a number of reasons | Apr 20 13:16 |
| schestowitz | least of which this being anonymous with an account anyone can open and a ridiculous self-naming | Apr 20 13:16 |
| MinceR | it was linked on ##covid-19 | Apr 20 13:17 |
| schestowitz | freenode/irc? | Apr 20 13:17 |
| MinceR | yes | Apr 20 13:17 |
| MinceR | the sources seem to be more important than whether the author is painting a big fat crosshair on their forehead | Apr 20 13:18 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: 18 165023 < mefistofeles> I know this is risky, and hope it doesn't feed the trolls, but I'm gonna leave this here https://project-evidence.github.io/ | Apr 20 13:23 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: it is possible | Apr 20 13:32 |
| schestowitz | but... | Apr 20 13:32 |
| schestowitz | the sources used need to be very carefully chosen | Apr 20 13:32 |
| schestowitz | the theory I heard and can accept is that this was an accidental leak | Apr 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz | from the lab | Apr 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz | but not of a cyberweapon | Apr 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz | but a research sample | Apr 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz | passed through family, then outwards to Wuhan | Apr 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz | but I cannot prove it | Apr 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz | some people came here to IRC with theories about Gates and depopulation and stuff | Apr 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz | and connecting those things is even even bigger stretch | Apr 20 13:33 |
| schestowitz | as if Gates controls the Communist Party of China or something | Apr 20 13:34 |
| schestowitz | or CPC looking to promote his patents, investments in patents, simulation etc. | Apr 20 13:34 |
| schestowitz | tbh, I quit caring where it came from | Apr 20 13:34 |
| schestowitz | as we'll probably never know | Apr 20 13:34 |
| schestowitz | china might be forced to pay reparation and face boycotts/sanctions regardless of the cause and involuntary nature of it | Apr 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz | if they deal with such samples and keep quite about an endemic until it becomes a pandemic, then there need to be major fines | Apr 20 13:35 |
| schestowitz | if they want to do this kind of research, then like nuclear power plants they should be forewarned about financial risks, too | Apr 20 13:35 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I have a rule of thumb: if a hypothesis is being promoted by zlax, then it can't be good. | Apr 20 13:40 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 20 13:41 |
| MinceR | who's zlax? | Apr 20 13:41 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Just a guy I Internet-know. And who comments under schestowitz's notices often. | Apr 20 13:43 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: He got pretty infamous in the Fediverse for being very annoying. | Apr 20 13:45 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: As far as beliefs go, he believes in alternate history (that Anglo-Saxons fabricated the whole history in the XVIII century), anti-vaxx, believes in the zionist rule, etc. | Apr 20 13:46 |
| XRevan86 | And in that COVID-19 is Bill Gates' doing. | Apr 20 13:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 20 13:47 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: did he promote this? | Apr 20 13:48 |
| schestowitz | btw, esr also promotes the idea covid19 is a chinese cyberweapon | Apr 20 13:48 |
| schestowitz | and Ariadne wasn't happy about it (nor was I) | Apr 20 13:48 |
| MinceR | cyber? | Apr 20 13:48 |
| schestowitz | oops | Apr 20 13:48 |
| schestowitz | bio | Apr 20 13:48 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: so what would happen if zlax promoted the idea of 1+1=2? | Apr 20 13:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hasn't happened yet. | Apr 20 13:48 |
| schestowitz | 1+1=11, MinceR | Apr 20 13:48 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 20 13:48 |
| schestowitz | just look | Apr 20 13:49 |
| XRevan86 | It's a rule of thumb, it's not science :) | Apr 20 13:49 |
| schestowitz | it's as obious as ROman numerics | Apr 20 13:49 |
| MinceR | strange, i thought it was maths | Apr 20 13:49 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 20 13:49 |
| schestowitz | non binary maths | Apr 20 13:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No, I mean "if a hypothesis is being promoted by zlax, then it can't be good" – not science | Apr 20 13:49 |
| schestowitz | no composites | Apr 20 13:49 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: oh. | Apr 20 13:49 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: not a good rule of thumb | Apr 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | even the worst sometimes promote an element of truth | Apr 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | even Alex Jones | Apr 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | this is how they entrap idiots | Apr 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | they can tell 90% truth | Apr 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | but what they really sell is the other 10% | Apr 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | to sell supplements and "Survival kits" etc. | Apr 20 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: zlax is not commercial, it's a genuine coo-coo, so it works better with him. | Apr 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | Other people told me this too -- that it's a mixture of truth and k00k fiction | Apr 20 13:51 |
| XRevan86 | * he's a | Apr 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | and the truth is more dangerous because | Apr 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | 1) it helps attract the gullible people | Apr 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | 2) it helps them claim that, "look, a lot of what X said was true" | Apr 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | anyway... | Apr 20 13:51 |
| schestowitz | I need to catch up with linux news for tuxmachines | Apr 20 13:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, yea, even RT tells the truth sometimes. | Apr 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | rianne is shipping something, I'm on my own for the next few hours | Apr 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: probably most of the time | Apr 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | it covers assange and wikileaks quite well | Apr 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | but that't the problem, this is how they end up getting link and googlejuice for "the rest" | Apr 20 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Guardian.. same | Apr 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz | scary thing... this weaponised media thing | Apr 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz | they gain links from paid journos who are good | Apr 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz | whom they hire | Apr 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz | and then they use that to push ads and misinformatiom | Apr 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz | or gov. talking points, sometimes covert agencies' | Apr 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz | depending on agenda du jour | Apr 20 13:53 |
| schestowitz | like framing people | Apr 20 13:54 |
| MinceR | 20 145059 < XRevan86> schestowitz: zlax is not commercial, it's a genuine coo-coo, so it works better with him. | Apr 20 13:56 |
| MinceR | he may well be a victim of people like Alex Jones | Apr 20 13:57 |
| MinceR | also, it may actually be difficult to form sentences in which everything is false :> | Apr 20 13:57 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I don't know with whom he discusses this stuff. But trying to reason with him is insufferable. | Apr 20 13:57 |
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| schestowitz | I don't recall replying to that username | Apr 20 14:01 |
| schestowitz | I probably did at some point | Apr 20 14:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He tried to sell me an idea that the Alexander Column's installation was fake, and to back to up he found that a Pushkin's verse was changed slightly in later editions. | Apr 20 14:01 |
| schestowitz | which pod/instance is that person on? | Apr 20 14:02 |
| schestowitz | There was one total idiot on diaspora who accuse me and others of being NSA agents based on nothing at all | Apr 20 14:02 |
| schestowitz | and if they don't bother replying, that's "proof | Apr 20 14:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So I did some digging and found that the known version is the original version, and he got it all backwards. He still decided to stick with it. | Apr 20 14:02 |
| schestowitz | so you either feed a kook or... well, let the k00k carry on | Apr 20 14:03 |
| schestowitz | and replying will 1) legitimise them and 2) will never be enough; they'll ask increasingly crazy things | Apr 20 14:03 |
| XRevan86 | Pyramids were impossible, Stonehenge was impossible, naturally the Alexander Column was impossible too. | Apr 20 14:03 |
| XRevan86 | Aliens? | Apr 20 14:03 |
| XRevan86 | > which pod/instance is that person on? | Apr 20 14:04 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Many. | Apr 20 14:04 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: https://pleroma.site/users/zlax | Apr 20 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Apr 20 14:05 | |
| schestowitz | aliens are cool, man | Apr 20 14:06 |
| MinceR | ayyy lmao | Apr 20 14:06 |
| schestowitz | they travel 1000 times the speed of light to insert probes up people's intestinal tunes, then return them home drunk until they sober up and still remember the aliens | Apr 20 14:06 |
| schestowitz | *tubes | Apr 20 14:06 |
| XRevan86 | You want something cool done? Ask the aliens. | Apr 20 14:07 |
| MinceR | rather, | Apr 20 14:07 |
| MinceR | ayy lmao | Apr 20 14:07 |
| XRevan86 | The Bronze Horseman was also faked as it's impossible to pull that rock all that way. | Apr 20 14:09 |
| XRevan86 | St. Petersburg is full of impossibilities. | Apr 20 14:09 |
| MinceR | and yet aliens can do the impossible | Apr 20 14:10 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Obviously they pointed a Gravity gun on it | Apr 20 14:11 |
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| MinceR | https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1631.html | Apr 20 14:51 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/660401.jpg | Apr 20 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's amazing just how many there are. | Apr 20 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Better than "Gory hole" | Apr 20 15:39 |
| MinceR | that can be fun too :> | Apr 20 15:41 |
| schestowitz | not for everybody | Apr 20 15:47 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 20 15:47 |
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| dabblerdude | Hello everyone, so does anyone know what the difference is between a system image and restore point on Windows? The reason I ask is if I wanted to install a bunch of utility programs and change some Windows settings, would a system image retain the utility programs I installed along with the Windows settings I tweaked. | Apr 20 16:36 |
| schestowitz | hi | Apr 20 16:49 |
| schestowitz | why Windows? | Apr 20 16:49 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/UD7UD84.mp4 | Apr 20 16:55 |
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| dabblerdude | Because I refurbish and sell off computers. Windows 10 has a bunch of settings that are enabled and disabled by default which greatly compromise the user's privacy and security. For me to load Windows 10 onto each computer and tweak these settings one by one is tedious. That's why if I were to load Windows 10 onto one computer and tweak said settings, would creating a system image retain those settings I tweaked? | Apr 20 16:59 |
| schestowitz | use gnu/linux | Apr 20 17:00 |
| schestowitz | windows on a PC is technical sabotage :-) | Apr 20 17:00 |
| MinceR | windows 10 itself greatly compromises the user's privacy and security | Apr 20 17:02 |
| dabblerdude | I would. Problem is, the average PC user uses Windows, no matter what version it is. The majority of them prefer using that then with Linux. | Apr 20 17:02 |
| MinceR | then let them suffer | Apr 20 17:03 |
| psydread | and enables an industry that is hostile towards its users (or rather victims) | Apr 20 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft puts refurbishers in prisons | Apr 20 17:04 |
| schestowitz | look up Lundgren | Apr 20 17:04 |
| dabblerdude | What do you mean, lock them up in prisons? | Apr 20 17:04 |
| dabblerdude | I thought this was legal? | Apr 20 17:04 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/07/26/story-of-eric-lundgren/ | Apr 20 17:04 |
| dabblerdude | TO refurbish computers with Windows on them. | Apr 20 17:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s Legal Attacks on Eric Lundgren Demonstrate There’s No ‘New’ Microsoft Except a Super-Vicious, Law-Twisting Thug | Techrights | Apr 20 17:05 | |
| schestowitz | part 6 of 8 | Apr 20 17:05 |
| schestowitz | we covered it last year | Apr 20 17:05 |
| schestowitz | dabblerdude: yes | Apr 20 17:05 |
| schestowitz | because it reduces sales | Apr 20 17:05 |
| dabblerdude | With Linux, it's no issue because it's free and open-source. | Apr 20 17:06 |
| dabblerdude | No legal issues involved. | Apr 20 17:06 |
| schestowitz | also less hassle for the users | Apr 20 17:06 |
| schestowitz | no updates bricking, deleting data etc,. | Apr 20 17:06 |
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| dabblerdude | How would I increase the chance of selling a computer with Linux on it compared to Windows then? | Apr 20 17:09 |
| dabblerdude | Any tips? | Apr 20 17:09 |
| psydread | at this point it's mostly a marketing and psychological problem | Apr 20 17:10 |
| psydread | in my own experience people without a long history with computers can use Linux without problems | Apr 20 17:11 |
| psydread | it's mostly those with a long history of using Windows and knowing its ins and outs that reject Linux | Apr 20 17:11 |
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| chasecrum | anyone have a link that explains the #boycottnovell issues? | Apr 20 17:15 |
| dabblerdude | schestowitz: I tried to access the article but it didn't work. | Apr 20 17:16 |
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| schestowitz | dabblerdude: access issue? | Apr 20 17:18 |
| schestowitz | the site is online | Apr 20 17:18 |
| schestowitz | chasecrum: you mean boycott reasons? | Apr 20 17:18 |
| schestowitz | novell is no longer around anyway | Apr 20 17:18 |
| chasecrum | yes - trying to figure out what the issues were | Apr 20 17:18 |
| schestowitz | wait.. | Apr 20 17:18 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/faq/ | Apr 20 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Frequently-Asked Questions | Techrights | Apr 20 17:19 | |
| schestowitz | it's old | Apr 20 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Foire aux Questions (French) http://techrights.org/faq/faq-fr/ | Apr 20 17:19 |
| chasecrum | looking now | Apr 20 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Foire aux Questions (French) | Techrights | Apr 20 17:19 | |
| schestowitz | dabblerdude: the article or the site? | Apr 20 17:19 |
| schestowitz | dont' try https | Apr 20 17:20 |
| chasecrum | I get the techrights new in my rss feed reader (love it) - but saw the hashtag and didnt know what it was all about | Apr 20 17:20 |
| dabblerdude | Got it. | Apr 20 17:20 |
| chasecrum | I work for SUSE - which was at one time a Novell subsid... just never knew there was an issue | Apr 20 17:21 |
| schestowitz | it was a novell issue | Apr 20 17:21 |
| schestowitz | they signed a patent deal with microsoft in 2006 | Apr 20 17:21 |
| schestowitz | with miguel de icaza (not formally microsoft) advising | Apr 20 17:22 |
| chasecrum | yeah that's what I'm reading | Apr 20 17:22 |
| schestowitz | and NOT A FRIEND, MAN (Nat Friendman, not GitHub CEO) playing a role too | Apr 20 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft more or less hijacked Novell | Apr 20 17:22 |
| schestowitz | *Friedman | Apr 20 17:22 |
| schestowitz | *now | Apr 20 17:22 |
| chasecrum | well - not for nothing - but everything hijacked novell - including novell | Apr 20 17:22 |
| schestowitz | noorda died | Apr 20 17:23 |
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| schestowitz | SUSE 'works' for SAP now | Apr 20 17:25 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/ | Apr 20 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an ‘Asset’ of SAP (‘German Microsoft’), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | Techrights | Apr 20 17:26 | |
| chasecrum | that's an interesting statement for a number of reasons | Apr 20 17:26 |
| chasecrum | have you seen who our new CEO is? | Apr 20 17:26 |
| schestowitz | yes, I know | Apr 20 17:26 |
| schestowitz | they even sacked the man who said they had become independent | Apr 20 17:26 |
| schestowitz | SUSE is a sales company now | Apr 20 17:27 |
| schestowitz | not engineering | Apr 20 17:27 |
| chasecrum | She's doing a great job here - but it did raise an eyebrow or two coming from SAP | Apr 20 17:27 |
| schestowitz | customer relations etc. | Apr 20 17:27 |
| MinceR | lol @ suse being "independent" | Apr 20 17:27 |
| schestowitz | SUSE blog full of stuff piggybacking the pandemic for marketing | Apr 20 17:27 |
| schestowitz | chasecrum: she seems OK | Apr 20 17:27 |
| MinceR | suse wasn't independent even when novell bought it and sold its customers (and the community) out to microsoft | Apr 20 17:28 |
| chasecrum | (I'm not in sales lol) | Apr 20 17:28 |
| schestowitz | did not do anything thoroughly damaging so far | Apr 20 17:28 |
| schestowitz | hovsepian sold novell | Apr 20 17:29 |
| schestowitz | and a year ago he send his lawyer after me | Apr 20 17:29 |
| schestowitz | trying to pull down articles about him, because they're "old" | Apr 20 17:29 |
| chasecrum | I thought Novell closed up shop? | Apr 20 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | said he could not find a job anymore | Apr 20 17:29 |
| dabblerdude | So Eric Lundgren went to prison for selling these Windows OS restore discs that were provided by different computer manufacturers? | Apr 20 17:29 |
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| dabblerdude | Just the discs? | Apr 20 17:30 |
| schestowitz | it was sold | Apr 20 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | attachmate, then a british firm | Apr 20 17:30 |
| MinceR | novell ended up in some random microsoft front(s), iirc | Apr 20 17:30 |
| schestowitz | and bit offloaded over time | Apr 20 17:30 |
| MinceR | along with suse | Apr 20 17:30 |
| chasecrum | novell still belongs to microfocus | Apr 20 17:30 |
| MinceR | turns out betraying one's own customers isn't always good for business | Apr 20 17:30 |
| MinceR | who could have guessed? | Apr 20 17:30 |
| chasecrum | microfocus sold SUSE about a year ago to a capital firm | Apr 20 17:30 |
| schestowitz | now suse is owned by some swedish 'bank', iirc | Apr 20 17:30 |
| schestowitz | yeah, 'firm' | Apr 20 17:31 |
| chasecrum | it's not a bank, it's a company that buys tech companies and IPO's them | Apr 20 17:31 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 20 17:31 |
| schestowitz | 'bank' | Apr 20 17:31 |
| chasecrum | ha | Apr 20 17:31 |
| schestowitz | hence scare quotes | Apr 20 17:31 |
| schestowitz | they're just vultures | Apr 20 17:31 |
| schestowitz | like the company that killed novell | Apr 20 17:31 |
| schestowitz | henge fund in nyc | Apr 20 17:31 |
| schestowitz | elliot | Apr 20 17:31 |
| schestowitz | *hedge | Apr 20 17:31 |
| chasecrum | to be honest I think an IPO would be good for SUSE | Apr 20 17:31 |
| schestowitz | in these economic climate? | Apr 20 17:32 |
| schestowitz | who will cut the ribbon? | Apr 20 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Two lads in hazmat suits? | Apr 20 17:32 |
| chasecrum | it would still have to be a couple years out for growth expectancy | Apr 20 17:32 |
| chasecrum | I'm guessing around 2022 | Apr 20 17:32 |
| chasecrum | but I'd bet on it | Apr 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | possible | Apr 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | I'd be happy | Apr 20 17:33 |
| chasecrum | me too - I"m hoping for employee stock options :) | Apr 20 17:34 |
| chasecrum | Did you see the Tor layoff announcement? | Apr 20 17:35 |
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| schestowitz | maybe amazon or hpe or sap will buy suse on the cheap at some point | Apr 20 17:37 |
| schestowitz | ceo coming back to her employer, like elop at nokia | Apr 20 17:37 |
| schestowitz | chasecrum: they fired 13 | Apr 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | out of 35 iirc | Apr 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | someone told me a private story about tor several days ago | Apr 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | dodgy story | Apr 20 17:38 |
| chasecrum | I'm worried about their survivability | Apr 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | that I cannot share here, apparently it's very sensitive | Apr 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | people can fork tor | Apr 20 17:38 |
| chasecrum | what's the summary of it then? | Apr 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | or make alternatives to it | Apr 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | they need to start with better basis of trust than US Navy (!!) | Apr 20 17:39 |
| dabblerdude | schestowitz: For me, I wasn't selling restore discs. What I would do for selling and refurbishing computers is I would take a flash drive with Windows 10 on it, plug it in to a PC, and install it. I would repeat the same process with other computers. | Apr 20 17:39 |
| schestowitz | don't know | Apr 20 17:39 |
| schestowitz | but you're at the mercy of their lawyers | Apr 20 17:39 |
| schestowitz | lundgren became broke just fighting back to defend himself... still got arrested | Apr 20 17:39 |
| schestowitz | and has a felony record | Apr 20 17:39 |
| schestowitz | he pled guilty to avoid vastly higher sentence... it's a method of blackmail using her inferior pocket depth | Apr 20 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | *his | Apr 20 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | the summary is that there's a bunch of compromised tor packages out there | Apr 20 17:41 |
| schestowitz | so you need to ensure you get them from a good sources | Apr 20 17:41 |
| schestowitz | *source | Apr 20 17:41 |
| chasecrum | a good source? like where? | Apr 20 17:42 |
| dabblerdude | schestowitz: So it would be best off to refurbish computers with Linux on them to avoid all the legal hassle with Microsoft then. I don't want to deal with all of that. | Apr 20 17:45 |
| chasecrum | I haven't used windows since 200 - I've been completely Linux since then | Apr 20 17:50 |
| dabblerdude | For refurbishing computers, I thought of using Linux Mint. | Apr 20 17:51 |
| dabblerdude | That's a good one. | Apr 20 17:51 |
| dabblerdude | Any other user-friendly distro suggestions? | Apr 20 17:51 |
| chasecrum | Mint is super easy to use. easier than ubuntu - but I'd suspect ubuntu has more development. I've used opensuse for decades - but it can be a little tricky at times for new users | Apr 20 17:53 |
| schestowitz | debian is OK | Apr 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | if you install it for them | Apr 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | my wife and I use Debian 10 | Apr 20 17:54 |
| dabblerdude | Ubuntu used to use the Unity desktop, which was nice, but they switched to GNOME. | Apr 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | once it's installed it is very solid and has plenty of software, updates are nicely done with gui | Apr 20 17:54 |
| chasecrum | is debian still limited from drivers for the most part though? | Apr 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | not sure | Apr 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | seems to work out of the box with printer and all | Apr 20 17:54 |
| schestowitz | make sure you add any firmware blobs the wireless gear needs | Apr 20 17:55 |
| schestowitz | (if these machines have wifi) | Apr 20 17:55 |
| chasecrum | oh wow. I thought they had a religious stance on drivers for a while | Apr 20 17:55 |
| XRevan86 | chasecrum: apt install firmware-linux | Apr 20 17:55 |
| chasecrum | gotcha | Apr 20 17:55 |
| MinceR | devuan is better than debian | Apr 20 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | chasecrum: https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/firmware-nonfree there are also some separate firmware packages. | Apr 20 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.debian.org | Debian -- Details of source package firmware-nonfree in sid | Apr 20 17:58 | |
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| chasecrum | cool | Apr 20 18:02 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://hugelol.com/lol/660030 | Apr 20 18:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | Sports | Apr 20 18:06 | |
| XRevan86 | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=firmware&release=ceres possible to find the same list on Devuan | Apr 20 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkginfo.devuan.org | Devuan Package information | Apr 20 18:07 | |
| XRevan86 | I mean, through their web site. | Apr 20 18:07 |
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| MinceR | http://surrounder.nl/i-use-archlinux.jpg | Apr 20 19:25 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://i.ibb.co/SBWJmrX/putriotic.jpg | Apr 20 19:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 20 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | lol | Apr 20 19:40 |
| schestowitz | ArchPutin | Apr 20 19:40 |
| schestowitz | it's very compressed | Apr 20 19:40 |
| schestowitz | 5 feet tall when stretched | Apr 20 19:40 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What do you mean? | Apr 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | his ego is disproportional to his physical size | Apr 20 19:44 |
| XRevan86 | Ah :) | Apr 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | always amusing to see him next to Assad | Apr 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | "whooz yo daddy?" | Apr 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | pinky and the brain | Apr 20 19:44 |
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| XRevan86 | https://i.ibb.co/vhZWvmC/dictashenko.jpg | Apr 20 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | No stash on the last panel. Oh well %). | Apr 20 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | ha | Apr 20 19:48 |
| schestowitz | lots of death in belarus today | Apr 20 19:48 |
| schestowitz | i posted something about that, too... | Apr 20 19:48 |
| Narrator | well, like in other country | Apr 20 19:48 |
| schestowitz | 4 deaths and almost 1500 cases that are new | Apr 20 19:48 |
| schestowitz | huge number | Apr 20 19:48 |
| XRevan86 | The crazy part is that there were already deaths when he made that statement. | Apr 20 19:48 |
| schestowitz | who, putin? | Apr 20 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Lukashenko | Apr 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | russia has a huge number of cases too | Apr 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | today 6000+ irrc | Apr 20 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Belarus' managed to outdo Russia in madness. | Apr 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | growing quadratically now, deaths around 44 iirc | Apr 20 19:49 |
| schestowitz | ah, I see | Apr 20 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | There were no measures enacted there at all, because Mr. President thought it's not a big deal. | Apr 20 19:50 |
| Narrator | well, they cannot beat usa;-) | Apr 20 19:50 |
| XRevan86 | There probably still aren't any. | Apr 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | us marches for number 1 | Apr 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | marches the streets, usa usa usa | Apr 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | they buy lots of pistols | Apr 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | they're efficient for suicide | Apr 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | then it doesn't count as covid19 | Apr 20 19:50 |
| schestowitz | check out their annual gun deaths from suicides, iirc well over 10k | Apr 20 19:50 |
| XRevan86 | It also made news as https://forbes.com/sites/mikemeehallwood/2020/03/30/belarus-takes-center-stage-as-the-last-league-standing-amid-coronavirus-shutdown %) | Apr 20 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Belarus Takes Center Stage As The Last League Standing Amid Coronavirus Shutdown | Apr 20 19:51 | |
| XRevan86 | (March 30) | Apr 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | you have to wonder when you sell someone a gun... whether it'll end up blowing that dude's own brains | Apr 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | well, 1500 or so cases today | Apr 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | spreading like wildfire | Apr 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | sweden failed also | Apr 20 19:51 |
| schestowitz | we started too late | Apr 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | conceited | Apr 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | schools left open even when we already knew it was dumb | Apr 20 19:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's interesting to see how each nation handles the issue. | Apr 20 19:53 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Is Sweden in denial like Belarus'? | Apr 20 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | maybe not anymore | Apr 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz | massive deaths/capita last week | Apr 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz | like 100+ for a population of what? is it still 5 million? probably more | Apr 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz | so that's like 1000+ deaths/day in England | Apr 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz | or 2000+ in Russia | Apr 20 20:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There are 5000+ in Russia now. | Apr 20 20:05 |
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| XRevan86 | Sweden has a population of 10 million. | Apr 20 20:05 |
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| XRevan86 | 1/14th of Russia, so it's like 1500+ in Russia, and Russia has a lot more | Apr 20 20:06 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: per day | Apr 20 20:06 |
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| schestowitz | 6000 in Russia today, more or less | Apr 20 20:06 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: per day | Apr 20 20:06 |
| schestowitz | MrGreenFriend: welcome back | Apr 20 20:06 |
| schestowitz | your friend was mentioned here today | Apr 20 20:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Oh, wait, do you mean deaths or detected? | Apr 20 20:07 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: wow, it grew fast, maybe immigration in sweden | Apr 20 20:07 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: not sure what they count in Russia | Apr 20 20:07 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Both. Yesterday 44 deaths and 4268 cases. | Apr 20 20:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: ^ | Apr 20 20:10 |
| XRevan86 | Not every corpse is checked, so the number of deaths is underestimated too. | Apr 20 20:10 |
| schestowitz | this has long been an issue in poor countries | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | esp. africa | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | so they have to disregarded the official counts | Apr 20 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | Russia is rich-poor. | Apr 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | they have limited # of kits | Apr 20 20:12 |
| schestowitz | why waste it on corpses, they say, when you can still use the kits to save lives, not states | Apr 20 20:12 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: Russia is rich | Apr 20 20:12 |
| schestowitz | except compared to western europe | Apr 20 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The election is going to go badly for Republicans. | Apr 20 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Both nationally and regionally. | Apr 20 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their key voters are dying off in waves and it's 197 days until the election. | Apr 20 20:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Russia is Banana-republic rich. | Apr 20 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not enough time for them to use it to cause mayhem while people are trying to vote, because things will have settled down. | Apr 20 20:13 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: you don't live in a bungalow or die from cholera, so... be thankful | Apr 20 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Plenty of time for it to kill whoever is going to die. | Apr 20 20:13 |
| schestowitz | they will call off the election is the canvassing tells them to | Apr 20 20:14 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm looking at this from the perspective of potential. | Apr 20 20:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: lol | Apr 20 20:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: maybe they will delay the death cerfs | Apr 20 20:14 |
| schestowitz | to imprinting Trump's name on them | Apr 20 20:14 |
| schestowitz | oh, silly me, that's just for welfare checks he uses to buy votes | Apr 20 20:14 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's not like Russia hasn't had any money. | Apr 20 20:15 |
| XRevan86 | Russia has had a shit-tonne of money. | Apr 20 20:15 |
| schestowitz | US is similar in some regard | Apr 20 20:15 |
| XRevan86 | But what does it do with it? Steal from itself and transfer to offshores. | Apr 20 20:15 |
| schestowitz | not 1960s US | Apr 20 20:15 |
| MrGreenFriend | schestowitz: hi. mentioned about what? | Apr 20 20:15 |
| schestowitz | 2020 US | Apr 20 20:15 |
| schestowitz | MrGreenFriend: someone wanted to install Vista10 | Apr 20 20:15 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <dabblerdude> schestowitz: For me, I wasn't selling restore discs. What I would do for selling and refurbishing computers is I would take a flash drive with Windows 10 on it, plug it in to a PC, and install it. I would repeat the same process with other computers. | Apr 20 20:16 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <schestowitz> don't know | Apr 20 20:16 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <schestowitz> but you're at the mercy of their lawyers | Apr 20 20:16 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <schestowitz> lundgren became broke just fighting back to defend himself... still got arrested | Apr 20 20:16 |
| schestowitz | [17:39] <schestowitz> and has a felony record | Apr 20 20:16 |
| schestowitz | MrGreenFriend: I cannot find a way to contact Eric | Apr 20 20:16 |
| schestowitz | I want to continue to series this year, highlighting details from the court case | Apr 20 20:16 |
| schestowitz | I could contact neither you nor him | Apr 20 20:16 |
| schestowitz | so when you came here I knew I had a chance. I think he gave me an email address, but I lost it or it didn't work, not sure which.. | Apr 20 20:17 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There is no official quarantine in Russia even though there is a de-facto quarantine (which violates human rights by law), because when there's quarantine, the state takes responsibility. | Apr 20 20:17 |
| schestowitz | the orthodox church seems to be flouting it | Apr 20 20:17 |
| schestowitz | (still) | Apr 20 20:17 |
| XRevan86 | So this is the environment where I'm living in, where the state violates its own laws big time just because they don't wanna do their part. | Apr 20 20:18 |
| XRevan86 | It's like having an insurance company for a government. | Apr 20 20:18 |
| MrGreenFriend | schestowitz: sorry, i haven't been on IRC either. he's busy with other things. it is good to see you are still fighting the good fight | Apr 20 20:19 |
| schestowitz | for many years now... since 2003 I think | Apr 20 20:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Putin delegated "quarantine" to the regions, so in some regions the church didn't close down. | Apr 20 20:19 |
| XRevan86 | half of them | Apr 20 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Out of all the ways for the Republican Party to be finished, Replicator Attack was not my first guess. | Apr 20 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This thing is a meat grinder and these people are too stupid to get out of the way. In fact, they rush in to make sure they don't escape! | Apr 20 20:21 |
| XRevan86 | It gets to me that even benefits of having a stronk leader evaded me. | Apr 20 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If we told these people "Hey, don't go in that room or you'll fall into a pit of boiling acid!" they'd pile in to die in boiling acid. | Apr 20 20:23 |
| schestowitz | MrGreenFriend: I mentioned the netflix movie | Apr 20 20:23 |
| schestowitz | but not heard about him since | Apr 20 20:23 |
| schestowitz | if he passed me some documents, I'd be able to make some sense of them on my own and publish something | Apr 20 20:23 |
| schestowitz | I think he can find my email address, IF... he's interested | Apr 20 20:24 |
| schestowitz | BTW, does he know that Shaw who defamed here came from the US Army | Apr 20 20:24 |
| schestowitz | military-grade propaganda right there | Apr 20 20:24 |
| schestowitz | gn all... | Apr 20 20:24 |
| schestowitz | working at 1am | Apr 20 20:24 |
| XRevan86 | But I guess this just shows that there weren't any benefits to being with, it was all just an illusion. | Apr 20 20:25 |
| XRevan86 | * to begin with | Apr 20 20:25 |
| MrGreenFriend | schestowitz: thx. but i can't speak for him. so i don't know. sorry | Apr 20 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm very, very glad the election is 197 days from now. Plenty of time for these idiots to bite it. Things settle down and the Republicans don't get to use it for mass mayhem like Wisconsin. | Apr 20 20:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump will do all kinds of horrible things on the way out, but he would do all of that and more if he got another 4 years. | Apr 20 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: How will it even go? | Apr 20 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | Whilst avoiding crowdings. | Apr 20 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, the blue states are all going to expand vote by mail to anyone who wants it, obviously. | Apr 20 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Voters in general are so pissed right now that enthusiasm to get rid of Trump is about to boil over on the Democratic side of the electorate. | Apr 20 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The independents are overall not happy with him. | Apr 20 20:29 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | There's every indication Biden peels off 10-11% of the Republicans. | Apr 20 20:29 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Some would rather deal with 4 years of Biden and try again than to sit back and wait for whatever is next under Trump. | Apr 20 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Certainly a higher percentage of Republicans are done with Trump than Democrats who go "Oh yeah I'll vote for this again.". | Apr 20 20:30 |
| Narrator | Biden fail | Apr 20 20:31 |
| Narrator | will fail | Apr 20 20:31 |
| XRevan86 | Narrator: Why? | Apr 20 20:32 |
| Narrator | guessing | Apr 20 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | Narrator: At this point anyone nominated from a twin-party is going to beat Trump. | Apr 20 20:36 |
| XRevan86 | That's my uneducated opinion %). | Apr 20 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Indiana is like post-Reconstruction Mississippi now. | Apr 20 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Where they rewrote the constitution to keep out the good jobs so that smart people wouldn't live there and vote. | Apr 20 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Destroying the economy so the Party will stay in power. | Apr 20 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR probably would bee able to tell you all about that. | Apr 20 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'd rather have a shitty economy of poor sick religious people so they'll never get thrown out. | Apr 20 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Klan used to have sworn members in half the Indiana state government and it's almost that bad again. | Apr 20 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "I can't breathe!" -TEA Party | Apr 20 20:42 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump stirring them up probably just got at least another 40,000 killed. | Apr 20 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a pattern here. | Apr 20 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The number of reported deaths goes down on Sundays and Mondays but then surges on Tuesday and stays really bad for the rest of the week. | Apr 20 20:59 |
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| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/cattle | Apr 20 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Cattle | Apr 20 22:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Democrats: Let's nominate a 78 year old man in a pandemic where 78 year men have a 60% chance of living through it if they get infected. | Apr 20 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That won't, like, totally throw things into chaos in the middle of an election. | Apr 20 22:29 |
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| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/liquidate#English o_0 | Apr 20 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | liquidate - Wiktionary | Apr 20 23:11 | |
| XRevan86 | I went to Wiktionary to try to understand who came up with using "liquidate" to mean extermination. | Apr 20 23:12 |
| MinceR | did you succeed? | Apr 20 23:12 |
| XRevan86 | > The sense “to kill, do away with” is a semantic loan from Russian | Apr 20 23:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 20 23:13 |
| MinceR | from russia where life is cheap :> | Apr 20 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | or rather, s/extermination/elimination/ | Apr 20 23:14 |
| MinceR | like they say in ut1, "Target Eliminated." | Apr 20 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | Making something non-existent in a broad sense. | Apr 20 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | or someone | Apr 20 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | It's also an interesting pairing with "solidarity", which comes from "solid". | Apr 20 23:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 20 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | Liquidate plasmation of solidarity | Apr 20 23:19 |
| XRevan86 | by vapourising it | Apr 20 23:19 |
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