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| DaemonFC[m] | People are absolutely dumping their restaurant gift cards at fire sale prices. | Nov 20 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Don't blame them. All you can get now is maybe take out and not even that if they go bankrupt. | Nov 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | learn to cook | Nov 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | much better | Nov 20 00:00 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kikzjTfos0s&feature=youtu.be&t=28 | Nov 20 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-On Bullsh*t Jobs | David Graeber | RSA Replay - YouTube | Nov 20 00:00 | |
| vZS1 | Cooking at home definitely better | Nov 20 00:01 |
| schestowitz | now safer, too | Nov 20 00:01 |
| vZS1 | Learn to preserve food. It'll come in handy. | Nov 20 00:01 |
| schestowitz | milk turned sours 2 weeks ago | Nov 20 00:02 |
| schestowitz | so we made pancakes out of it | Nov 20 00:02 |
| vZS1 | Cheese or yogurt works too | Nov 20 00:02 |
| vZS1 | I've taught a lot of my friends and neighbours how to pickle stuff the last few months | Nov 20 00:03 |
| schestowitz | it's the cooking/boiling that matters | Nov 20 00:03 |
| vZS1 | Can save those veggies that are just about to go off | Nov 20 00:03 |
| vZS1 | You can make butter from heavy cream | Nov 20 00:05 |
| vZS1 | Just put it in a bowl and keep mixing | Nov 20 00:05 |
| vZS1 | You get buttermilk and butter | Nov 20 00:06 |
| vZS1 | Can salt the butter and it'll last longer | Nov 20 00:06 |
| vZS1 | Stuff like that goes a long way | Nov 20 00:06 |
| schestowitz | most people don't want to learn | Nov 20 00:07 |
| schestowitz | they haul a pack of 4 carton cups | Nov 20 00:07 |
| vZS1 | Don't get why. It's a lot of fun | Nov 20 00:07 |
| schestowitz | with coffee in them | Nov 20 00:07 |
| schestowitz | at 10 pounds total | Nov 20 00:07 |
| schestowitz | maybe advertising, that's why | Nov 20 00:07 |
| schestowitz | the "lifestyle"-type | Nov 20 00:07 |
| schestowitz | show you have money... but buying things at irrational prices | Nov 20 00:08 |
| schestowitz | 70p for a pack of crisps, 50 grams | Nov 20 00:08 |
| vZS1 | Lol | Nov 20 00:08 |
| schestowitz | some shops sell them quarter price | Nov 20 00:08 |
| schestowitz | near the expiry date, then the price becomes the actual worth | Nov 20 00:09 |
| schestowitz | and you can get whole boxes of the thing | Nov 20 00:09 |
| schestowitz | we've noticed that between lock-downs there was more discounted stuff than we could store and consume | Nov 20 00:09 |
| schestowitz | lots of "premium" items didn't sell | Nov 20 00:09 |
| vZS1 | You see the real value in times like this | Nov 20 00:10 |
| vZS1 | So stock up on all the toilet paper | Nov 20 00:11 |
| schestowitz | sarcasm? | Nov 20 00:11 |
| vZS1 | Yeah | Nov 20 00:11 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 20 00:11 |
| schestowitz | tbh | Nov 20 00:11 |
| schestowitz | you don't even need paper if it comes to that | Nov 20 00:12 |
| schestowitz | if there's running water | Nov 20 00:12 |
| schestowitz | but you cannot eat soil | Nov 20 00:12 |
| schestowitz | or towels | Nov 20 00:12 |
| vZS1 | I've lived in countries where it's normal to use a jug and your hand | Nov 20 00:12 |
| vZS1 | Just wash hands with soap after | Nov 20 00:12 |
| schestowitz | eating is the hard part | Nov 20 00:12 |
| schestowitz | growing food is very hard | Nov 20 00:13 |
| vZS1 | Indeed | Nov 20 00:13 |
| schestowitz | unless you live in a jungle | Nov 20 00:13 |
| schestowitz | (or have a firearm and break into homes with food) | Nov 20 00:13 |
| vZS1 | I'm one of those prepper people | Nov 20 00:13 |
| schestowitz | drinks now an issue with running water | Nov 20 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: If the milk is such that goes sour, then definitely go for it. | Nov 20 00:13 |
| schestowitz | in ukraine they chopped down people for food | Nov 20 00:13 |
| vZS1 | I've always got a few months worth of food in the larder | Nov 20 00:14 |
| vZS1 | Rice, beans, flour, lentils, canned and pickled provisions, etc | Nov 20 00:15 |
| schestowitz | "so THAT'S where all that food went!" | Nov 20 00:15 |
| vZS1 | I go foraging a lot as well for seasonal stuff | Nov 20 00:16 |
| vZS1 | Quite a lot of forest nearby | Nov 20 00:16 |
| schestowitz | berries | Nov 20 00:16 |
| schestowitz | but they don't last long | Nov 20 00:17 |
| vZS1 | Fungi | Nov 20 00:17 |
| schestowitz | you could pick a ton of berries in summer | Nov 20 00:17 |
| schestowitz | if you can clean and consume them, but it's a lot of manual labour | Nov 20 00:17 |
| schestowitz | people "too busy makin' moneyyy" | Nov 20 00:17 |
| vZS1 | Yeah. Unless you do something like make jam. But jam is really bad for teeth. | Nov 20 00:17 |
| vZS1 | Last thing you want is cavities when the dentist isn't available | Nov 20 00:18 |
| vZS1 | You can get raspberries everywhere in the UK | Nov 20 00:19 |
| schestowitz | they grow out there | Nov 20 00:19 |
| schestowitz | nobody picks them | Nov 20 00:19 |
| schestowitz | not even what's left of flying insects | Nov 20 00:19 |
| vZS1 | Literally hundreds of kilos even in cities | Nov 20 00:20 |
| vZS1 | Parks and stuff | Nov 20 00:20 |
| vZS1 | Commons | Nov 20 00:20 |
| vZS1 | Nettles are another good one | Nov 20 00:21 |
| vZS1 | Nettle soup is great | Nov 20 00:22 |
| vZS1 | Also grows practically everywhere in the UK | Nov 20 00:22 |
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| vZS1 | And it's not like some countries that spray pesticides everywhere. It's safe to forage and eat this stuff in the UK | Nov 20 00:23 |
| schestowitz | if you live in suburbs maybe | Nov 20 00:25 |
| vZS1 | Even in cities. | Nov 20 00:25 |
| vZS1 | The UK doesn't really have many big cities | Nov 20 00:25 |
| vZS1 | Mostly towns and villages | Nov 20 00:25 |
| vZS1 | And even for the big cities, you don't need to go far to hit more rural areas | Nov 20 00:27 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Programming Leftovers • ⒯⒰⒳ ⒨⒜⒞⒣⒤⒩⒠⒮ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144564 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1e5a9f9f-2f2e-4741-ab4d-be2deae95140] | Nov 20 00:28 | |
| vZS1 | What's another one | Nov 20 00:30 |
| vZS1 | Uh | Nov 20 00:30 |
| vZS1 | Chestnuts | Nov 20 00:30 |
| vZS1 | Plenty of those even in the cities | Nov 20 00:30 |
| vZS1 | Sweet chestnuts too | Nov 20 00:30 |
| vZS1 | You can get them by the bag. Nobody will stop you | Nov 20 00:33 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • ⒯⒰⒳ ⒨⒜⒞⒣⒤⒩⒠⒮ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144565 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a4412838-0493-455b-b3db-c91e8d35341f] | Nov 20 00:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 20/11/2020: Mir 2.2, Istio Releases, Linux 5.9.9 • 🆃🅴🅲🅷🆁🅸🅶🅷🆃🆂 ☞ http://techrights.org/2020/11/19/istio-releases/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/8d82bd42-961e-4344-ad50-faafe6ee02d7] | Nov 20 00:39 | |
| schestowitz | ddos underway | Nov 20 00:41 |
| schestowitz | just now | Nov 20 00:41 |
| schestowitz | OK, it's back under control now | Nov 20 00:44 |
| vZS1 | Know the source IP? | Nov 20 00:48 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "Georgia confirms Biden victory after statewide audit" -CNN | Nov 20 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "President-elect Joe Biden beat President Trump by 12,284 votes, according to the final results from the audit. This is a slight drop for Biden compared to the pre-audit results. | Nov 20 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Georgia plans to certify Biden’s victory on Friday." | Nov 20 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The reason for the relatively dramatic ~2000 vote margin shift was some uncounted ballots that malfunctioning optical scanners didn't tally. | Nov 20 01:11 |
| XRevan86 | O.K., but what about Vladivostok? | Nov 20 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump says they're proof he was cheated, but in one county they actually broke for Biden. | Nov 20 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Regardless, now that they've been hand counted and nothing could possibly have been missed, a further recount would be pointless. | Nov 20 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Sen. Tammy Duckworth, a Democrat from Illinois, is under consideration to lead the Department of Defense, officials said, a decision that would be historic. Not only is Duckworth a decorated veteran, but also would be the first woman to serve as Defense secretary." | Nov 20 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I voted for her in 2016. | Nov 20 01:13 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "O.K., but what about Vladivostok"> The Kremlin didn't come through for Trump this time. | Nov 20 01:45 |
| *XRevan86 fixed the "tux machines" font issue on Android, I didn't backport the exact font that has these symbols: NotoSansCJK. | Nov 20 01:46 | |
| XRevan86 | Why Enclosed Alphanumeric Supplement and such are grouped with CJK is beyond me. | Nov 20 01:47 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: That was more of a reference to that great guy schestowitz met on Minds :) | Nov 20 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/trump-democrats-election/index.html | Nov 20 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Trump told ally he's trying to get back at Democrats for questioning legitimacy of his own election - CNNPolitics | Nov 20 01:54 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | (CNN)President Donald Trump told an ally that he knows he lost, but that he is delaying the transition process and is aggressively trying to sow doubt about the election results in order to get back at Democrats for questioning the legitimacy of his own election in 2016, especially with the Russia investigation, a source familiar with the President's thinking told CNN on Thursday. | Nov 20 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Been shopping on Amazon a little. Mandy needed a new belt so I picked one out of Warehouse Deals for him. | Nov 20 03:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they said if I added my Discover card they'd give me $20, so I got an electric tea kettle for free. | Nov 20 03:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Been needing one, but this says saves 50% of the energy vs boiling water on the stove. | Nov 20 03:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The Witcher is probably the best thing I've seen on TV in a while. | Nov 20 04:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I need to go find the games. | Nov 20 04:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure I'm missing something great. | Nov 20 04:35 |
| MinceR | Witcher? But I don't even know 'er! | Nov 20 04:45 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Xfce 4.16pre2 released! • ⒯⒰⒳ ⒨⒜⒞⒣⒤⒩⒠⒮ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144566 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d0e8c881-3cb2-4dc1-bfeb-570fb1cfe078] | Nov 20 05:30 | |
| schestowitz | [01:54] <DaemonFC[m]> (CNN)President Donald Trump told an ally that he knows he lost, but that he is delaying the transition process and is aggressively trying to sow doubt about the election results in order to get back at Democrats for questioning the legitimacy of his own election in 2016, especially with the Russia investigation, a source familiar with the President's thinking told CNN on Thursday. | Nov 20 05:31 |
| schestowitz | Birtherism precedes that | Nov 20 05:31 |
| schestowitz | he did that to Obama | Nov 20 05:31 |
| MinceR | "alternative facts" | Nov 20 05:33 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kali Linux 2020.4 switches the default shell from Bash to ZSH http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144517#comment-27203 [https://pleroma.site/objects/38e06326-70fa-45a5-acec-1a6c0200354d] | Nov 20 05:39 | |
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| DerigazzTheBorin | Is anyone awake? | Nov 20 05:44 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: System76 Refreshes the Galago Pro LaptopSystem76 Refreshes the Galago Pro Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144229#comment-27204 [https://pleroma.site/objects/807a45be-cda4-482e-a779-a9f09370f4fd] | Nov 20 05:46 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/wGGVngE.jpg | Nov 20 05:55 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A Review of NixOS • ⒯⒰⒳ ⒨⒜⒞⒣⒤⒩⒠⒮ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144569 [https://pleroma.site/objects/020e1701-3d6e-465d-96d8-cf584202f959] | Nov 20 06:00 | |
| schestowitz | 5-inch-long ero | Nov 20 06:03 |
| schestowitz | *ego | Nov 20 06:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 20 06:04 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Intel, X11 and Wayland • ⒯⒰⒳ ⒨⒜⒞⒣⒤⒩⒠⒮ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144571 [https://pleroma.site/objects/25bac2f5-defc-48c7-a1a1-ef2e1b392314] | Nov 20 06:20 | |
| schestowitz | Re: M$ just played the US public again | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > Sorry, I should have called this when Christopher Krebs was appointed. | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > He looks like he was appointed by M$ for the explicit purpose of | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > whitewashing their systems. | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > Krebs, 43, is a former Microsoft executive appointed by | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > Trump to head the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > Security Agency (CISA), a division of the U.S. | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > Department of Homeland Security. As part of that role, | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > Krebs organized federal and state efforts to improve | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > election security, and to dispel disinformation about | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > the integrity of the voting process. | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/11/trump-fires-security-chief-christopher-krebs/ | Nov 20 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Trump Fires Security Chief Christopher Krebs — Krebs on Security | Nov 20 06:24 | |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > Notice how carefully worded his statements were. He phrased the "most | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > secure ever" part like an M$ press release, meticulously avoiding an | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > evaluation on any absolute levels. Also, notice that he avoided any | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > statement to the effect that the reported tallies were reliable, that is | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > beyond the capability of the machines. | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > However, although it looks like there is fraud, it will not change the | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > election outcome since the machines, and thus the fraudulent tallies, | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > have been in red states: | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/457168-report-says-eight-states-to-use-paperless-voting-in-2020-despite | Nov 20 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report says eight states to use paperless voting in 2020 despite security concerns | TheHill | Nov 20 06:24 | |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 20 06:24 |
| schestowitz | > So even though the Orange One is projecting about some fraud, there | Nov 20 06:25 |
| schestowitz | > probably really was fraud to his advantage, and M$ is using his lies to | Nov 20 06:25 |
| schestowitz | > whitewash their passive involvement in it. | Nov 20 06:25 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: going to add text versions of irc logs | Nov 20 07:02 |
| schestowitz | working on ironing out some encoding bugs at the moment | Nov 20 07:02 |
| schestowitz | it's coded in perl | Nov 20 07:03 |
| schestowitz | I can start by making text versions for the past ~3 weeks, then upload those to ipfs, update index etc. | Nov 20 07:03 |
| schestowitz | then it'll be done as part of the nightly routine | Nov 20 07:03 |
| schestowitz | Re: Article quote | Nov 20 07:25 |
| schestowitz | >> The FSF tells him to promote GitHub, and he does. They give him a | Nov 20 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > platform, as long he says exactly what they’re saying already. | Nov 20 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 20 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > Right, this outlines the change. For most intents and purposes, he has | Nov 20 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > warned against Github. This is the way that line is intended: | Nov 20 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 20 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > The FSF tells him to [indirectly] promote GitHub, and [now] he does. | Nov 20 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > They give him a platform, as long he says exactly what they’re saying | Nov 20 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > already. | Nov 20 07:25 |
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| vZS1 | Fair enough | Nov 20 08:13 |
| vZS1 | Just wanted to point that line out because it seemed very not like RMS to me | Nov 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz | we work on refactoring | Nov 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz | the whole irc thing | Nov 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz | [07:55] <schestowitz> 1. html version | Nov 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz | [07:55] <schestowitz> 2. html version in ipfs | Nov 20 08:13 |
| schestowitz | [07:55] <schestowitz> 3. text version | Nov 20 08:14 |
| schestowitz | [07:55] <schestowitz> 4. text version in ipfs | Nov 20 08:14 |
| schestowitz | [08:13] <vZS1> Just wanted to point that line out because it seemed very not like RMS to me | Nov 20 08:14 |
| schestowitz | that's the "permissible RMS" | Nov 20 08:14 |
| vZS1 | You should look into Raku. The grammars make parsing very simple | Nov 20 08:14 |
| schestowitz | a parrot of P-C script | Nov 20 08:14 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: I am waiting for raku to delete github | Nov 20 08:14 |
| schestowitz | I discussed this with them this week | Nov 20 08:14 |
| vZS1 | They're moving to GitLab | Nov 20 08:14 |
| schestowitz | seeing how Guido van Icaza moved to Microsoft, just like Python did, I'm careful what I make my code dependent on | Nov 20 08:15 |
| vZS1 | I tried to nudge them away from shithub a week or two ago | Nov 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: link? | Nov 20 08:15 |
| vZS1 | It's in their IRC logs | Nov 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz | so maybe it's paying off | Nov 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Nov 20 08:15 |
| schestowitz | self-hosted? | Nov 20 08:15 |
| vZS1 | Idk | Nov 20 08:15 |
| vZS1 | It's on freenode | Nov 20 08:16 |
| vZS1 | Or did you mean GitLab | Nov 20 08:16 |
| vZS1 | Because then, no. | Nov 20 08:16 |
| vZS1 | Raku is free software though | Nov 20 08:18 |
| vZS1 | You can just grab the source | Nov 20 08:18 |
| vZS1 | And build | Nov 20 08:18 |
| vZS1 | Their build chain is solid | Nov 20 08:18 |
| vZS1 | I even built Raku on Rpi (using swap) | Nov 20 08:18 |
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| vZS1 | https://docs.raku.org/language/grammar_tutorial | Nov 20 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.raku.org | Grammar tutorial | Nov 20 08:21 | |
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| vZS1 | https://rakudo.org/star | Nov 20 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudo.org | Rakudo Star Bundle - Rakudo Compiler for Raku Programming Language | Nov 20 08:26 | |
| vZS1 | That's where you can grab source from | Nov 20 08:26 |
| vZS1 | It's a zipped tarball | Nov 20 08:27 |
| vZS1 | Anyway. You already built something with Perl. That will do for now | Nov 20 08:28 |
| vZS1 | I've got a long list of things I need to build. A lightweight reverse proxy is on the list too | Nov 20 08:29 |
| vZS1 | Right now I'm working on an RSS 2.0 feed generator | Nov 20 08:30 |
| vZS1 | Basically building everything from scratch. | Nov 20 08:31 |
| vZS1 | I've had a look at what's available and they're all too heavy | Nov 20 08:32 |
| vZS1 | So I'm just hacking together stuff as I go along | Nov 20 08:34 |
| vZS1 | Very much keeping the Unix philosophy in mind | Nov 20 08:36 |
| vZS1 | Small tools that do one thing | Nov 20 08:36 |
| vZS1 | And then combining those into more specialised tools | Nov 20 08:36 |
| vZS1 | If you look at an HTTP server now. It's not just transferring hypertext | Nov 20 08:37 |
| vZS1 | Pretty ridiculous when you think about it | Nov 20 08:37 |
| vZS1 | All these unnecessary standards and frameworks | Nov 20 08:38 |
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| schestowitz | they want to levrage browsers | Nov 20 08:41 |
| schestowitz | to do everything | Nov 20 08:41 |
| schestowitz | leverage them for DRM also | Nov 20 08:41 |
| vZS1 | Well. I'm not going to play along with that | Nov 20 08:42 |
| schestowitz | now they they replace Adobe Trash with EME and multimedia at least | Nov 20 08:42 |
| schestowitz | many others won't, either | Nov 20 08:42 |
| schestowitz | they increasingly opt for lighter things | Nov 20 08:42 |
| vZS1 | I don't have a single line of JavaScript anywhere. And I intend to keep it that way | Nov 20 08:42 |
| vZS1 | Right now I've already got a small HTTP server that only serves a few files | Nov 20 08:45 |
| vZS1 | Those files are just updated with other tools | Nov 20 08:46 |
| schestowitz | you still need JS as a client for some things | Nov 20 08:46 |
| schestowitz | as many sites like gov. sites won't work without js | Nov 20 08:46 |
| vZS1 | I'm not really thinking about others here | Nov 20 08:47 |
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| vZS1 | This is just for my own stuff | Nov 20 08:47 |
| vZS1 | I'm only going to be serving a simple home page, an ipfs index, and an RSS feed. So that's just 3 files right now | Nov 20 08:48 |
| schestowitz | yes, I know | Nov 20 08:48 |
| vZS1 | I hard coded that into my server so that the server isn't doing work it doesn't need to do | Nov 20 08:49 |
| vZS1 | Those files are all handled by tools purpose-built for handling them | Nov 20 08:51 |
| vZS1 | So right now I'm building the RSS generator | Nov 20 08:51 |
| vZS1 | I'll need to build an IPFS index generator and an HTML generator | Nov 20 08:51 |
| vZS1 | And those are all done on a schedule so as not to take up resources that other processes could use | Nov 20 08:52 |
| vZS1 | I'm using Go so it's really straightforward to cross-compile to any of the Unices | Nov 20 08:54 |
| vZS1 | Statically linked binaries that don't require much hassle to set up | Nov 20 08:54 |
| vZS1 | Because disk space is easy to add on. Admin resources are expensive | Nov 20 08:55 |
| vZS1 | People used to run IRC servers that had thousands of users on a few megabytes of RAM | Nov 20 09:00 |
| vZS1 | There's no reason we can't get back to that | Nov 20 09:00 |
| vZS1 | It's actually necessary to break free from shithub and the like | Nov 20 09:01 |
| vZS1 | https://stallman.org/archives/2020-sep-dec.html#20_November_2020_%28Climate_mayhem_will_be_much_worse_than_Covid-19%29 | Nov 20 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2020: September - December Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Nov 20 09:06 | |
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| oiaohm | vZS1: really Covid-19 if we do nothing due to class of virus it would be like a flu going around and around killing people for unlimited amount of time. | Nov 20 09:28 |
| oiaohm | Same class as annoying chicken pox. | Nov 20 09:28 |
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| oiaohm | https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/twisted-graphene-could-power-new-generation-superconducting-electronics This adds a new performance possiblity to carbon based chips.\ | Nov 20 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sciencemag.org | Twisted graphene could power a new generation of superconducting electronics | Science | AAAS | Nov 20 12:53 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/D5rMUZM.jpg | Nov 20 13:27 |
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| XRevan86 | Thanks, Satan, I appreciate it. | Nov 20 13:56 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz, I wonder how many other people like Garrett there are out there to award Free Software medals to in order to be defeatist, to take pressure off users to demand more robust solutions, and to take legal pressure off Microsoft to develop things that actually work that are not entirely within their own control. | Nov 20 15:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What he did with Secure Boot didn't buy us any freedom. It bought us a very short leash where Microsoft could pull the plug on the signature today and new laptops going out would refuse to boot non-Windows systems with a "security policy violation" tomorrow. | Nov 20 15:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Richard Stallman signing off on that award is, figuratively, like giving the Jesus Award to Judas Iscariot. | Nov 20 15:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They give him and Miguel the thirty pieces of silver and they put restrictions on Linux that don't improve actual security or the app development on Linux one tiny little bit, but do stuff it with patents and poorly hashed out Mkcrosoftisms that open it up to legal attacks and just outright attack. | Nov 20 15:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I am working on something related to this | Nov 20 15:29 |
| schestowitz | an article | Nov 20 15:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The rot set in under Stallman and with his direct approval. | Nov 20 15:29 |
| schestowitz | They later gave an award to Deb Icaza | Nov 20 15:30 |
| schestowitz | given by RMS himself | Nov 20 15:30 |
| schestowitz | he was not part of the committee that decided on it | Nov 20 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Deb Icaza meanwhile raised money from Microsoft | Nov 20 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Deb Icaza is now GM (sole employee) of OSI | Nov 20 15:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That trans woman that was running Libreboot was something else. | Nov 20 15:31 |
| schestowitz | which is disturbing to say the least | Nov 20 15:31 |
| schestowitz | let's not get into that | Nov 20 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Leah would later defend RMS | Nov 20 15:32 |
| schestowitz | and retract what she had said | Nov 20 15:32 |
| schestowitz | she defended him during the coupo | Nov 20 15:32 |
| schestowitz | *coup | Nov 20 15:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you're telling me that Stallman is "transphobic" yet he hired you in the first place. | Nov 20 15:32 |
| schestowitz | I gotta focus on editing some article | Nov 20 15:32 |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2174/ | Nov 20 15:32 |
| schestowitz | speak later.. | Nov 20 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: First News Memory | Nov 20 15:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't understand the whole trans thing and I can't say that I approve it disapprove of it, and it wouldn't really be appropriate for me to do either since it doesn't really affect my life either way. | Nov 20 15:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hmm, I think Element is messing up. That message was meant to deride the idea that Stallman harassed that person running Libreboot. | Nov 20 15:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think in one particular case I was annoyed with a trans person. | Nov 20 15:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My aunt's husband divorced her and then had a sex change operation and then showed up and wanted his two young daughters to call him mom. | Nov 20 15:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that was beyond the pale, honestly, because it confused and humiliated them and all the other kids ganged up on them because of that. | Nov 20 15:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the time, especially, it simply was not done. | Nov 20 15:37 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | There were maybe three sex reassignment operating centers in the entire county and all of them turned him down after a psychiatric evaluation. | Nov 20 15:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he ended up going to Canada to get it done and then,.at the time, I think there were only a handful of states that would amend your documents, so he was still legally male. | Nov 20 15:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Life is sometimes sacrificing your own happiness or goals for other people, and I mean, if you can't do that then don't start a family for one thing. | Nov 20 15:40 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz, I do get the whole demanding loyalty in exchange for doing people a huge favor. | Nov 20 15:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I don't think a lot of people do anymore. Emotionally, people seem to be stunted at around age 12 to 15 these days. | Nov 20 15:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those are the sorts that RMS unfortunately allowed to burrow into the FSF. | Nov 20 15:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the US federal government, we have this problem called burrowing, Roy. | Nov 20 15:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I think it applies to many organizations, but the outgoing regimes try to reclassify as many of their people as career civil servants as possible on the way out | Nov 20 15:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Technically, they have to follow the orders of the new administration, but it's hard to fire them and the goal is that it slows things down and gets things done in a way that wasn't what they wanted. | Nov 20 15:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oddly, Trump might have improved this. | Nov 20 15:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a regulation that's about to be finalized that makes it easier to fire these people and he rammed it in expecting that he couldn't possibly lose the election and he'd get rid of the people from Clinton through Obama that we're still hanging around. | Nov 20 15:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But now Biden can easily purge the Trump and George W. Bush people. | Nov 20 15:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I never liked the idea of burrowing anyway, because while no outgoing president has ever tried to pull off some ridiculous scheme to steal and reverse a major and compelling defeat until now, they did use burrowing to effectively kind of linger. | Nov 20 15:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/rick-scott-florida-covid-19/index.html | Nov 20 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rick Scott: Florida GOP senator says he has Covid-19 - CNNPolitics | Nov 20 15:50 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Skeletor has COVID. | Nov 20 15:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 20 15:51 |
| MinceR | i thought he was a snake-man | Nov 20 15:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Google accidentally gave me control over the business listing for those assholes that called the cops on me for applying for an apartment. | Nov 20 15:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I briefly.considered changing their business number to Marcel's so her phone would ring off the hook with people asking if she had any apartments in Chicago. | Nov 20 15:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Then I realized it would be funny for a few minutes and then I might end up with the police at my door, so I got ahold of Google and told them about the mix up. | Nov 20 15:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm still wondering what the hell is going on with Google. | Nov 20 15:56 |
| MinceR | lack of competition | Nov 20 15:57 |
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| schestowitz | https://slated.org/respect_freedom_not_pragmatism | Nov 20 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://slated.org/respect_freedom_not_pragmatism ) | Nov 20 16:03 | |
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| psydroid | <DaemonFC[m] "What he did with Secure Boot did"> They are going for another attempt with the Pluton chip in every future Intel, AMD and Qualcomm chip. Unfortunately for them the world has changed in the meantime and at least I won't be buying any devices containing any of those even more compromised chips. | Nov 20 16:08 |
| schestowitz | "I've created a monster! | Nov 20 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Cause nobody downloads GNU anymore, | Nov 20 16:10 |
| schestowitz | They want 'Linux', | Nov 20 16:10 |
| schestowitz | I'm chopped liver!" | Nov 20 16:11 |
| schestowitz | No license on this one... | Nov 20 16:11 |
| schestowitz | -figosdev | Nov 20 16:11 |
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| vZS1 | Hoard all the old computers | Nov 20 16:19 |
| vZS1 | Lol | Nov 20 16:19 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: still having some encoding bugs | Nov 20 16:41 |
| schestowitz | will try looking into our perl stuff later myself | Nov 20 16:41 |
| schestowitz | a friend had worked on it | Nov 20 16:41 |
| schestowitz | by the way, it would be nice to have exact quote re raku | Nov 20 16:42 |
| schestowitz | quotable text | Nov 20 16:42 |
| schestowitz | even if informal irc log | Nov 20 16:42 |
| schestowitz | to write something to congratulate them on getting off github | Nov 20 16:42 |
| schestowitz | we need "Success Stories" like these | Nov 20 16:42 |
| schestowitz | and I suggested to them those alternatives only several days ago | Nov 20 16:42 |
| vZS1 | I'll try to find the log entry | Nov 20 16:48 |
| vZS1 | Taking the night off now though | Nov 20 16:48 |
| schestowitz | I made some progress with her | Nov 20 16:49 |
| schestowitz | I think she's very high level in the project | Nov 20 16:49 |
| schestowitz | dutch name | Nov 20 16:49 |
| schestowitz | I forgot the name | Nov 20 16:50 |
| schestowitz | still working on getting curl to delete github | Nov 20 16:50 |
| vZS1 | Liz (: | Nov 20 16:50 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 16:50 |
| vZS1 | She's very nice | Nov 20 16:50 |
| schestowitz | she said they'd look into it | Nov 20 16:50 |
| schestowitz | our latest article in TR talks about WHY to delete github | Nov 20 16:51 |
| schestowitz | it's a very long piece | Nov 20 16:51 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2177/ | Nov 20 17:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Gastroenterology | Nov 20 17:01 | |
| vZS1 | Their whole development pipeline runs on shithub's free tier. | Nov 20 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | raku's? | Nov 20 17:11 |
| schestowitz | free as in? | Nov 20 17:11 |
| schestowitz | "first one's free" | Nov 20 17:11 |
| schestowitz | said the narco | Nov 20 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: https://twitter.com/liztormato/status/1329833734678437888 | Nov 20 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@liztormato: @loltimo @schestowitz Ah? | Nov 20 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jjmerelo/status/1329834216020987905 | Nov 20 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jjmerelo: @liztormato @loltimo @schestowitz We do have resources in @gitlab, graciously conceded by them. I don't think there… https://t.co/d3bDRspBfQ | Nov 20 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | We do have resources in @gitlab | Nov 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | , graciously conceded by them. I don't think there's any talk of totally moving there for the time being? | Nov 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jjmerelo/status/1329837333953261571 | Nov 20 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jjmerelo: @liztormato @loltimo @schestowitz @gitlab By "conceded" I simply mean they gave it to us for free when we requested it. Thanks a lot! | Nov 20 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | "By "conceded" I simply mean they gave it to us for free when we requested it. Thanks a lot!" | Nov 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jjmerelo/status/1329837503344467971 | Nov 20 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jjmerelo: @Mrofnet @schestowitz Well, we kind of panicked when we bumped into the @travisci limit. They also gave us some res… https://t.co/tlWB2qQtX1 | Nov 20 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Well, we kind of panicked when we bumped into the @travisci | Nov 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | limit. They also gave us some resources, but still, we might need some additional CI pipelines for longer-lasting builds or deployments. | Nov 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 17:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/0xFreak71/status/1329825865933459458 | Nov 20 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@0xFreak71: @schestowitz Microsoft SQL server and success in the same phrase it is "finally it worked successfully" :P | Nov 20 17:34 | |
| superkuh | Why build remotely in the first place? | Nov 20 17:35 |
| superkuh | Why move all that stuff away from local? | Nov 20 17:35 |
| schestowitz | coz clown | Nov 20 17:35 |
| vZS1 | They only use about 1500 minutes a month as well | Nov 20 17:36 |
| superkuh | I see more and more small software organizations moving to the model and it's pure cargo cult. | Nov 20 17:36 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: https://twitter.com/Mrofnet/status/1329801498755207174 | Nov 20 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Mrofnet: @schestowitz what? this is very sudden, if true | Nov 20 17:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/loltimo/status/1329798228322242561 | Nov 20 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@loltimo: @schestowitz so far only for the CI | Nov 20 17:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/liztormato/status/1329784022751391744 | Nov 20 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@liztormato: @schestowitz Que? | Nov 20 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | superkuh: "App" coming soon | Nov 20 17:37 |
| schestowitz | and it'll be smart and you can scan the code for it :-) | Nov 20 17:37 |
| vZS1 | Meanwhile we have unlimited minutes of CI a month | Nov 20 17:38 |
| vZS1 | Because we own our own hardware | Nov 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 17:38 |
| superkuh | A native application to run that does what? | Nov 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | they don't have hardware | Nov 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | it's serverless | Nov 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | it runs on AIR | Nov 20 17:38 |
| vZS1 | HEY HI | Nov 20 17:38 |
| schestowitz | "Alexa, compile for me" | Nov 20 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Alexa: I can't do this. I'm dedicated hardware, I can only record you for Jeff. | Nov 20 17:39 |
| MinceR | Open the pod bay doors, Alexa. | Nov 20 17:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LessRelevant/status/1329556192344100871 | Nov 20 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LessRelevant: @schestowitz 1. Git is a distributed system. If GitHub bothers you so much, just create your own mirror. 2. The li… https://t.co/sLbXHCp9il | Nov 20 17:41 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 17:41 |
| schestowitz | 1. Git is a distributed system. If GitHub bothers you so much, just create your own mirror. | Nov 20 17:41 |
| schestowitz | 2. The link is totally unrelated to the Tweet's content. | Nov 20 17:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 17:41 |
| vZS1 | Git actually isn't distributed | Nov 20 17:41 |
| vZS1 | You pull and push to a central server | Nov 20 17:41 |
| vZS1 | That's not distributed | Nov 20 17:42 |
| MinceR | you can pull from and push to any host running git | Nov 20 17:42 |
| MinceR | you can change your remotes, you can even add aliases for multiple remotes | Nov 20 17:42 |
| vZS1 | But a project usually just has the one Git server | Nov 20 17:43 |
| MinceR | you can also format changesets for mail and apply them from a mailable format | Nov 20 17:43 |
| MinceR | what a project usually does is not a property of Git | Nov 20 17:43 |
| vZS1 | You need an http server | Nov 20 17:43 |
| vZS1 | And an email server | Nov 20 17:44 |
| vZS1 | Or SSH | Nov 20 17:44 |
| vZS1 | Git protocol | Nov 20 17:44 |
| MinceR | still, afaik the main issue with being locked into ShitHub isn't really the git repos, but stuff like bug tracker tickets | Nov 20 17:44 |
| vZS1 | All not P2P | Nov 20 17:44 |
| vZS1 | IPFS and BitTorrent are distributed | Nov 20 17:44 |
| vZS1 | Git is not | Nov 20 17:45 |
| MinceR | Git is a distributed version-control system | Nov 20 17:45 |
| MinceR | look it up :> | Nov 20 17:45 |
| MinceR | compare it to non-distributed VCS-es | Nov 20 17:45 |
| vZS1 | Compare it to IPFS | Nov 20 17:45 |
| MinceR | IPFS is not a VCS | Nov 20 17:46 |
| vZS1 | That's not the point | Nov 20 17:46 |
| vZS1 | It's a distributed system | Nov 20 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | http://poorlydrawnlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/on_the_horse.png this is gold | Nov 20 17:46 |
| MinceR | what is the point? that Git is not IPFS? | Nov 20 17:46 |
| vZS1 | Git is not P2P is the point | Nov 20 17:46 |
| vZS1 | There's no DHT for Git | Nov 20 17:47 |
| vZS1 | It's a centralised hash table | Nov 20 17:47 |
| MinceR | there's no DHT for Gnutella either | Nov 20 17:47 |
| vZS1 | We don't have a truly distributed VCS | Nov 20 17:48 |
| vZS1 | Yet | Nov 20 17:48 |
| vZS1 | If I want to pull from a Git repo, I need to specify a remote. When I pull an IPFS object from the IPFS swarm, I don't need to specify a remote | Nov 20 18:07 |
| vZS1 | So Git is still centralised | Nov 20 18:07 |
| MinceR | you're working with very weird definitions of "centralized", "distributed" and "P2P" | Nov 20 18:09 |
| MinceR | so you shouldn't be surprised that it doesn't match others' definitions | Nov 20 18:09 |
| vZS1 | True | Nov 20 18:10 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2197/ | Nov 20 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Game Show | Nov 20 18:27 | |
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| vZS1 | I feel like I agree with fig | Nov 20 18:56 |
| vZS1 | Linux is too big to fork | Nov 20 18:57 |
| schestowitz | far too much so | Nov 20 18:57 |
| schestowitz | torvalds doesn't know what's happening | Nov 20 18:57 |
| schestowitz | and admits it | Nov 20 18:57 |
| vZS1 | Something like OpenBSD with GNU on top is easy more manageable | Nov 20 18:57 |
| vZS1 | easily* | Nov 20 18:57 |
| schestowitz | amd lumps it like half a million lines in one push | Nov 20 18:57 |
| schestowitz | nobody except its own employees can conceivably audit that bloat | Nov 20 18:58 |
| schestowitz | some of that code is shares with their win32/64 drivers | Nov 20 18:58 |
| schestowitz | so you know it's not even elegant | Nov 20 18:58 |
| schestowitz | like wireguard | Nov 20 18:58 |
| schestowitz | or kvm | Nov 20 18:58 |
| schestowitz | they toss one bloated shit on top of another | Nov 20 18:58 |
| schestowitz | and say, "look it works!" | Nov 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz | then the next kernel release breaks it | Nov 20 18:59 |
| schestowitz | because it's goo | Nov 20 18:59 |
| vZS1 | Them patches | Nov 20 19:12 |
| vZS1 | More like patchwork | Nov 20 19:12 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: see index/ipfs | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I am adding the past 20 days' logs | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | as ascii | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | 80 files | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I am changing the scripts a bit | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | and we figure out better presentation | Nov 20 19:43 |
| schestowitz | the cluttered one we have goes a looong way back... over a decade | Nov 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org/category/irc-logs/ | Nov 20 19:44 |
| schestowitz | even http://techrights.org/category/irc-logs/ | Nov 20 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Logs | Techrights | Nov 20 19:44 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I found a bunch of deals on ground turkey and chicken breasts. Had to play Freezer Jenga but I got them in there. | Nov 20 19:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Scored $13 worth of markdowns this trip. | Nov 20 19:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Found some canned vegetables on markdown too. Can probably do something with those. I just never bothered to do shopping like this before. | Nov 20 19:48 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/705618.jpg | Nov 20 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: those are legs | Nov 20 20:11 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: I think it's all sorted now | Nov 20 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I added a column to the text index for ipfs | Nov 20 20:12 |
| schestowitz | for format | Nov 20 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I also added a link to it from the html/table version | Nov 20 20:12 |
| schestowitz | now what's left is modifying the way those are linked to or presented | Nov 20 20:12 |
| schestowitz | and further testing | Nov 20 20:12 |
| schestowitz | that the text shows up ok, no broken links, typos etc | Nov 20 20:13 |
| vZS1 | Good stuff | Nov 20 20:19 |
| vZS1 | This the Perl code? | Nov 20 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Perl and bash | Nov 20 20:19 |
| schestowitz | you might say now... arku | Nov 20 20:19 |
| schestowitz | as you can see, people in Twitter rush to dispute how much they leave/will leave shithub | Nov 20 20:20 |
| schestowitz | this needs more persistence/pressure on them | Nov 20 20:20 |
| schestowitz | seems like a dispute among different people | Nov 20 20:20 |
| schestowitz | maybe Microsofters will jump in soon | Nov 20 20:20 |
| schestowitz | they censor such debates in reddit and github (their own) | Nov 20 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: can you still parse it ok? | Nov 20 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt/ | Nov 20 20:25 |
| schestowitz | space delimited except the end part | Nov 20 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/ipfs/ has some extra formatting in it now | Nov 20 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Nov 20 20:25 | |
| schestowitz | at some stage we need to add a howto pointer and then a menu entry at the front page, for people unaware and unfamiliar with ways to access/way/participate in it | Nov 20 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Added dynamic timestamp at bottom | Nov 20 20:38 |
| schestowitz | based on last update/upload time | Nov 20 20:38 |
| schestowitz | we'll need to change some IPs after moving over the server to another location, once Ariadne has free time | Nov 20 20:38 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: can still parse | Nov 20 20:57 |
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| vZS1 | Because CID is field 0 and field separator is space | Nov 20 20:57 |
| vZS1 | That's the assumption my script is built on | Nov 20 20:58 |
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| XRevan86 | https://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2020/11/20/announcing-coreboot-4-13/ | Nov 20 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.coreboot.org | Announcing coreboot 4.13 – coreboot | Nov 20 21:17 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Announcing coreboot 4.13 • ⒯⒰⒳ ⒨⒜⒞⒣⒤⒩⒠⒮ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144591 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5b92441d-443f-4fe9-bc4c-dda843a40de6] | Nov 20 21:25 | |
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| scientes | XRevan86, have you run coreboot before? | Nov 20 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: yes | Nov 20 21:43 |
| scientes | I ran it back in the day, and it was fully free | Nov 20 21:43 |
| scientes | but increasingly it has to run non-free signed uEFI stuff in order to boot systems | Nov 20 21:44 |
| scientes | which is sad | Nov 20 21:44 |
| scientes | those fucks at Intel | Nov 20 21:45 |
| scientes | that designed that operating system from hell called UEFI, with the purpose of robbing Microsoft | Nov 20 21:46 |
| scientes | (not that Intel is evil---we should all switch to connman because it gets a WiFi fix way faster than network manager_ | Nov 20 21:47 |
| scientes | if you use connman you will be connected from wifi before your display comes back from suspend | Nov 20 21:47 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I don't see why I need UEFI (especially signed) to boot systems. | Nov 20 21:47 |
| scientes | XRevan86, things like DDR initialization | Nov 20 21:48 |
| scientes | DDR timing calculations are very tricky, and the most complicated part of Coreboot | Nov 20 21:48 |
| scientes | especially that when you do it, you can't use DRAM | Nov 20 21:48 |
| scientes | like read the video description here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyRsk8GU3OE | Nov 20 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OSFC 2019 - Adaptation of AMD Reference Firmware to coreboot© Using FSP 2.0 - YouTube | Nov 20 21:54 | |
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| scientes | my understanding is that there hasn't been a single x86_64 chip since amdfam10 (Phenom II) that can be run without clearly non-free software on the main CPU (ones before that had non-free microcode, and loading of new microcode had to be signed) | Nov 20 21:56 |
| scientes | POWER can now map a fabric of machines onto the same VM space with only 50-100 ns added latency | Nov 20 21:59 |
| scientes | https://youtu.be/27VRdI2BGWg?t=498 | Nov 20 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM's POWER10 Processor - William Starke & Brian W. Thompto, IBM - YouTube | Nov 20 22:00 | |
| scientes | with POWER you can now access the memory of any machine in a fabric with 50-100ns added latency | Nov 20 22:00 |
| scientes | XRevan86, that is better than the page table latency you get from running in KVM | Nov 20 22:01 |
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| Ariadne | the POWER10 memory fabric stuff looks amazing | Nov 20 22:50 |
| vZS1 | Do we have any kernel people here? | Nov 20 22:53 |
| vZS1 | People that hack kernel code | Nov 20 22:53 |
| Ariadne | sure | Nov 20 23:00 |
| scientes | Ariadne, haven't I seen you in #talos-workstation before? | Nov 20 23:30 |
| scientes | or is that AdrianCeleste | Nov 20 23:30 |
| scientes | damn, why can't I get my color-coded-by-hash nicks back | Nov 20 23:30 |
| scientes | except in the user-window which is totally useless waste of screen space | Nov 20 23:30 |
| scientes | its blue-man-group in my hexChat | Nov 20 23:31 |
| scientes | Ariadne, welcome to #techrights | Nov 20 23:32 |
| Ariadne | I've been here lol | Nov 20 23:32 |
| scientes | do you just lurk in #musl ? | Nov 20 23:32 |
| scientes | cause I'm active there | Nov 20 23:32 |
| scientes | if everybody was painted in blue paint, then it would still be hard to tell people apart | Nov 20 23:33 |
| scientes | Yay! | Nov 20 23:39 |
| scientes | say something, I appear to have color back | Nov 20 23:39 |
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