●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, January 21, 2021 ●● ● Jan 21 [00:00] techrights-bot #Mesa 's R600 Driver Nears Feature Complete NIR Support For #Radeon HD 5000/6000 Series - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=R600g-NIR-Nears-Feature-Comp #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [00:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa's R600 Driver Nears Feature Complete NIR Support For Radeon HD 5000/6000 Series - Phoronix [00:03] techrights-bot #rustlang is so deep in #microsoft pockets that it now defines all its people in terms of their Microsoft accounts, #ProprietarySoftware logins https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2021/01/19/changes-to-rustdoc-team.html #deletegtihub [00:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Changes to the Rustdoc team | Inside Rust Blog [00:05] vZS1_2 Boards like this one are good for hosting something like a WordPress blog: https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-n2-with-4gbyte-ram-2/ [00:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hardkernel.com | ODROID-N2+ with 4GByte RAM ODROID [00:05] techrights-bot #Spreadsheet annoyance no. 3: quotes have priority https://www.datafix.com.au/BASHing/2021-01-20.html [00:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datafix.com.au | Spreadsheet annoyance no. 3: quotes have priority [00:06] vZS1_2 You could easily run an email server off that as well. [00:06] vZS1_2 4GB RAM is a lot [00:07] vZS1_2 ODOROID seem to offer better value for their boards, compared to Rpi. [00:07] techrights-bot The @Brave Browser Adds Native Support for Decentralized #IPFS Protocol http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146689 #freesw #internet [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brave Browser Adds Native Support for Decentralized IPFS Protocol | Tux Machines [00:07] vZS1_2 We need more SBCs and less Clown. [00:09] techrights-bot #GraalVM 21.0 Released With Experimental #JVM On Truffle - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GraalVM-21.0-Released #Phoronix #java #oracle [00:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GraalVM 21.0 Released With Experimental JVM On Truffle - Phoronix [00:09] techrights-bot #debian #gnu #linux hosting: "FOSSHOST provides us a VPS instance which is located at OSU Open Source Lab. It improves a lack of enough server resources then service availability especially." https://kenhys.hatenablog.jp/entry/2021/01/20/113651 [00:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kenhys.hatenablog.jp | fabre.debian.net is sponsored by FOSSHOST - [00:09] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: and less BT [00:10] schestowitz__ or less congestion [00:10] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:10] schestowitz__ or more infra [00:10] vZS1_2 The infra is there. It's being hogged for "national security" [00:10] vZS1_2 And discriminatory service [00:11] vZS1_2 Otherwise you wouldn't have good internet connection some days [00:12] techrights-bot Red Hat's explanation for making #RHEL 'free' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27874 [00:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gonebut RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines [00:12] MinceR "Hell is other people." [00:12] vZS1_2 They can't get people to pay for it so now they give it away for free [00:13] vZS1_2 RHEL will crumble just like Windows server did [00:13] techrights-bot How to make #dbus itself more #ProprietarySoftware based with hosting on hostile #microsoft servers #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dbus-Broker-26 [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dbus-Broker 26 Released For High Performance D-Bus - Phoronix [00:13] vZS1_2 The real danger is Red Hat's influence over GNU/Linux. [00:14] schestowitz__ yeah [00:14] schestowitz__ it already is [00:14] schestowitz__ centos used to be dominant iirc [00:14] vZS1_2 They don't even know how to program systems. It's just money and politics [00:14] schestowitz__ then debian and ubuntu etc. [00:14] vZS1_2 Back before Linus was castrated, he called out the shit quality of dbus. [00:15] vZS1_2 systemd is just as bad [00:15] techrights-bot "Clown" means remote control and surveillance. You don't need any such robots. It's marketing hype. https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/20/valetudo-is-a-cloud-free-web-interface-for-robot-vacuum-cleaners/ [00:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Valetudo is a cloud-free web interface for robot vacuum cleaners [00:16] vZS1_2 Red Hat made money because they knew more about GNU/Linux in the early days than most other commercial tech support people. [00:16] vZS1_2 So they were first-to-market [00:16] vZS1_2 They're not system architects. [00:16] vZS1_2 They're a bunch of passable sysadmins [00:17] techrights-bot How SUSE builds its Enterprise Linux distribution - PART 5 | SUSE Communities https://www.suse.com/c/how-suse-builds-its-enterprise-linux-distribution-part-5/ #suse #gnu #linux #freesw [00:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How SUSE builds its Enterprise Linux distribution - PART 5 | SUSE Communities [00:17] vZS1_2 And these days, not even that. The Red Hat website is full of shallow cruft. [00:18] vZS1_2 Things anyone with more than a few weeks of GNU/Linux experience should already know. [00:18] techrights-bot Open Sesame: How #FreeSW technologies turbocharge enterprises https://www.dqindia.com/open-sesame-open-source-technologies-turbocharge-enterprises/ #dqindia [00:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dqindia.com | Open Sesame: How Open Source technologies turbocharge enterprises [00:18] vZS1_2 There are far better GNU/Linux distributions out there than Red Hat's products [00:19] techrights-bot This is not a "Linux" issue and it's nothing to do even with stuff that's installed on top of Linux, unless a negligent system administrator is lousy at patching https://www.techradar.com/news/dangerous-new-malware-targets-unpatched-linux-machines [00:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dangerous new malware targets unpatched Linux machines | TechRadar [00:21] vZS1_2 It's good to see Red Hat pursue the Kubernetes bandwagon though. Bloated shit that creates fake work. [00:22] techrights-bot They always love talking about "Clown Computing" instead of #servers (which is what they really allude to) https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/01/20/2161483/0/en/BeyondTrust-Privilege-Management-for-Unix-Linux-Grows-Q4-Revenue-83-YoY-by-Securing-Cloud-Infrastructure.html [00:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | BeyondTrust Privilege Management for Unix & Linux Grows Q4 Revenue 83% YoY by Securing Cloud Infrastructure [00:22] vZS1_2 They're burning their capital. Let's hope they keep burning more. [00:22] schestowitz__ LOL [00:22] schestowitz__ https://www.fool.ca/2021/01/19/tsx-2-ev-stocks-im-buying-to-be-on-the-same-path-as-elon-musk/ [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fool.ca | TSX: 2 EV Stocks Im Buying to Be on the Same Path as Elon Musk - The Motley Fool Canada [00:23] schestowitz__ wanna be rich? [00:23] schestowitz__ Do this [00:23] schestowitz__ become cult idiot [00:23] vZS1_2 They are too late. The $100 to $500 stock price for Tesla has already passed. [00:23] schestowitz__ and it based on nothing [00:23] schestowitz__ pure hype [00:23] schestowitz__ pump and dump [00:23] schestowitz__ a company that loses money [00:24] vZS1_2 Too late to even dump. It's overvalued now. [00:24] schestowitz__ and maybe for the first time did not lose money [00:24] vZS1_2 Buying now is pure fail [00:24] vZS1_2 Because you're too late [00:24] schestowitz__ and who buys cars? [00:24] schestowitz__ esp. new [00:24] vZS1_2 It's speculation. i.e., gambling. [00:25] techrights-bot " #GIMP ( #GNU Image Manipulation Program) is a cross-platform tool for quality image creation and manipulation and advanced photo retouching." https://www.practicalecommerce.com/free-design-tools [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.practicalecommerce.com | 17 Free Design Tools for 2021 | Practical Ecommerce [00:26] techrights-bot #Archman 2021.01.20 out hours ago... #turkey has its own #gnu #linux distros.... and some are very impressive https://archman.org/ [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archman.org | Archman GNU/Linux [00:27] vZS1_2 Everyone buying Tesla stock now is only helping Tesla keep investor figures up to draw in more investors. Snowball effect. [00:27] techrights-bot "The Linux Memory Management layer supports the very common technique of virtual memory. Linux splits blocks of virtual memory into areas specified by the c structure vm_area_struct." #linux #kernel #oracle https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/the-maple-tree [00:27] techrights-bot "My #GNOME #outreachy internship has definitely taught me a lot of things including writing blog posts, reporting tasks, expressing myself and of course improving as a developer." https://nasahnashdeveloper.wordpress.com/2021/01/18/my-journey-to-gjs-backtrace-full-option/ [00:28] vZS1_2 Anyway. We went off topic. [00:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.43 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.06 [00:29] vZS1_2 All this bloatware like Kubernetes is only doing one thing. Feeding money to GIAFAM. You should stop wasting your time and money and invest it into actually learning how the operating system works. [00:29] techrights-bot Install #RHEL 8.3 for free production use in a VM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27875 #redhat #ibm [00:30] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:30] techrights-bot Sensible integer scale for #Gonum Plot https://fale.io/blog/2021/01/20/sensible-integer-scale-for-gonum-plot/ #fale #gnu #linux [00:31] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: it came from Google [00:31] vZS1_2 Yeah [00:31] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@techrights.org) has joined #techrights [00:31] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [00:31] schestowitz__ "came from above" [00:31] schestowitz__ the clown [00:31] vZS1_2 It's yet more "fake work" [00:31] schestowitz__ clown hitler [00:31] schestowitz__ cheeto hitllllair [00:32] schestowitz__ is cheeto golfing today? [00:32] vZS1_2 *shrug* [00:32] schestowitz__ maybe he'll get covid again and choke on a golf ball [00:32] MinceR one can hope [00:32] schestowitz__ for the ball [00:33] vZS1_2 Right now, you have people using a dozen frameworks for running Nginx and a few daemons. [00:33] schestowitz__ not in alpine [00:33] schestowitz__ Ariadne helps us move away from centos, gradually.. [00:33] schestowitz__ btw, I've now figured out how to quickly turn ipfs on and off [00:33] vZS1_2 Alpine isn't a part of the bloatware bandwagon [00:33] schestowitz__ depending on what I do [00:33] schestowitz__ until BT sorts its sh&& out [00:34] schestowitz__ brb coffee [00:36] vZS1_2 Alpine benefited a lot from the Docker boom. Alpine images are light and easy to maintain. [00:36] vZS1_2 I used it quite a bit in a few projects a while ago [00:39] vZS1_2 Because you don't have to deal with unessential daemons in your Alpine image, you can just use it as a template. [00:40] vZS1_2 So you can take a build-and-forget approach to each container. [00:41] schestowitz__ Ariadne is a key developer there, maybe you can go in Alpine's way [00:42] schestowitz__ Gentoo seems to be growing fast [00:42] vZS1_2 Not what I'm looking for right now [00:42] schestowitz__ up almost 50% in terms of commits last year [00:42] schestowitz__ but someone wrote today he had left Sabayon.. someone whom I know personally... online [00:42] vZS1_2 I'm looking for a GNU/Linux distro that is source-based. [00:43] vZS1_2 Gentoo is good for that. I don't want to spend much time on it. [00:43] schestowitz__ I know you like to inspect source [00:43] schestowitz__ I am aware [00:43] schestowitz__ for sec-oriented code it's essential [00:43] schestowitz__ because bugs there can be more than stability related [00:43] schestowitz__ and those packages should be compact [00:43] schestowitz__ except maybe front-end GUIs [00:44] schestowitz__ provided the GUIs do are doing something sane [00:44] schestowitz__ e.g. not cheating you by picking low entropy by design [00:44] schestowitz__ so for users who use GUIs you need to learn the backend and callback interactions too [00:44] MinceR (cat) (audio:relevant music) https://i.imgur.com/mg8NmzH.mp4 [00:44] vZS1_2 I avoid GUIs altogether. If it doesn't have a CLI, I'm not interested. [00:45] schestowitz__ in vista10 the disk encryption gui connects to the clown [00:45] schestowitz__ sending microsoft the private kets [00:45] schestowitz__ *kays [00:45] schestowitz__ for "backup" [00:45] schestowitz__ aka "national security' [00:45] vZS1_2 Spying and surveillance = "national security" [00:46] vZS1_2 My OS is my IDE so I don't need bullshit GUIs [00:46] schestowitz__ MinceR: nice one.. [00:47] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: I tried some IDEs [00:47] schestowitz__ many half a dozen over the years [00:47] schestowitz__ usually I left them rather than moved to them [00:47] schestowitz__ they're a convenience fantasy [00:47] vZS1_2 They aren't even convenient [00:47] schestowitz__ if I want this level of granularity I'd install a "X DEV DISTRO" [00:47] vZS1_2 I can do much more with things like GNU Global [00:47] schestowitz__ complete with everything related [00:48] vZS1_2 And GNU Global isn't tied to a specific text-editor/GUI [00:48] vZS1_2 Because I can do function/symbol discovery and stuff independently [00:48] vZS1_2 Always modular [00:48] vZS1_2 UNIX philosophy [00:49] vZS1_2 So it's independent of my text editor [00:49] schestowitz__ GNU Global? [00:49] schestowitz__ The global command? [00:50] vZS1_2 global(1) [00:50] schestowitz__ the one that applies the same to all files under a dir? [00:50] schestowitz__ I used that a lot in latex [00:50] schestowitz__ to set up templates ok [00:50] vZS1_2 https://www.gnu.org/software/global/ [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU Global source code tagging system [00:50] schestowitz__ Lots of examples here http://schestowitz.com/Research/resindex.htm [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Research Index [00:51] vZS1_2 Monolithic IDEs are a stinking pile of shit [00:51] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: that's different then [00:51] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [00:52] vZS1_2 They are just another form of lock-in [00:52] vZS1_2 VSCODE will always only support what MSFT wants it to [00:53] vZS1_2 Same for Oracle's IDEs [00:53] techrights-bot "The API key, combined with my ID and passphrase that allow your Chromium browser to access all these Google services are embedded in the binary they are added during compilation. They are my key, and they are distributed and used with written permission from the Chromium team." https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/google-muzzles-all-chromium-browsers-on-15-march-2021/ [00:53] vZS1_2 They're just another power-grab platform [00:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Google muzzles all Chromium browsers on15 March 2021 | Alien Pastures [00:55] techrights-bot #FLOSSWeekly 613: #EteSync and #Etebase - Tom Hacohen, EteSync and Etebase https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/613 [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | EteSync and Etebase [00:56] techrights-bot The #Slashdot discussion about what #IBM did today (Western time/clock) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27876 [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gonebut RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines [00:56] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: not originally [00:56] schestowitz__ netbeans likely started with good intentions [00:57] schestowitz__ and it's always tempting to make an IDE [00:57] schestowitz__ you start with an editor that suits your workflow [00:57] schestowitz__ then you build additions to it [00:57] schestowitz__ like the terminal side or some buttons with callback [00:57] schestowitz__ and you build a monster [00:57] MinceR sounds like it's well past time people stopped using these google "services" [00:58] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [00:58] techrights-bot This is not a "Linux" issue and it's nothing to do even with stuff that's installed on top of (GNU/)Linux, unless a negligent system administrator is lousy at patching https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/freakout-botnet-targets-unpatched-linux-systems-a-15814 [00:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bankinfosecurity.com | 'FreakOut' Botnet Targets Unpatched Linux Systems [00:58] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [00:59] vZS1_2 specific tools composed will always be leaps and bounds over any IDE ● Jan 21 [01:00] vZS1_2 MinceR: Google shooting themselves in the foot. Enabling 3rd-party development is what gains you market share faster than anything else. That's why Android was such a big success. [01:00] techrights-bot This solves nothing meaningful until #curl controls its own destiny and isn't requiring #microsoft accounts for #ProprietarySoftware https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/01/20/everything-curl-dev/ #deletegithub [01:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-everything.curl.dev | daniel.haxx.se [01:01] techrights-bot "Unlike discord, Matrix doesn't make you pay to use your own custom emotes or stickers, you just need to go and host them yourself. Luckily doing so is surprisignly [sic] easy and can be done for free." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz3H6KJTEI0 [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adding Your Cringe Stickers To Matrix - YouTube [01:02] MinceR vZS1_2: they probably believe they've gained enough and now it's time to start twisting people's arms to get them to switch to proprietary chrome [01:02] MinceR i hope they screw themselves with this [01:02] MinceR like all the others, they're parasites of the free software community [01:03] vZS1_2 >MinceR i hope they screw themselves with this [01:03] vZS1_2 Same [01:04] techrights-bot After months of cessation #suse is back to shilling #sap #propaganda and #ProprietarySoftware https://www.suse.com/c/how-to-boost-operational-efficiency-across-all-your-sap-landscapes/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/ [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to boost operational efficiency across all your SAP landscapes | SUSE Communities [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an Asset of SAP (German Microsoft), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | Techrights [01:05] vZS1_2 This will drive more people towards alternatives like Failfox [01:05] techrights-bot #HowTo install #Ubuntu #UnityRemix 20.10 - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ogmVJjqlRk #Video [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install Ubuntu Unity Remix 20.10 - YouTube [01:05] MinceR mozilla is pretty good at driving people away from failfox [01:06] vZS1_2 You still need a "trusted browser" to log into certain websites. [01:06] vZS1_2 Your choices are Chrome/Edge, Opera, or Firefox. [01:06] techrights-bot #linuxDotCom as #marketing #spam site of #linuxfoundation ... this one was filed under "LF Platinum Member Content"... i.e. pay us to buy links on the site https://www.linux.com/news/how-to-setup-wireguard-on-oracle-linux/ [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to setup WireGuard on Oracle Linux - Linux.com [01:08] techrights-bot "smaller companies like F(x)Tec, Planet Computers, Pine64, and Purism, which have developed phones with features like built-in keyboards, support for GNU/Linux distributions" https://liliputing.com/2021/01/if-lg-stops-making-smartphones-who-will-push-the-boundaries-with-weird-devices-like-the-lg-wing-and-lg-rollable.html [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If LG stops making smartphones, who will push the boundaries with weird devices like the LG Wing and LG Rollable? - Liliputing [01:09] vZS1_2 Google are already hostile to things like F-droid [01:09] vZS1_2 They hate what they can't control [01:10] techrights-bot #RockyLinux Making Progress Towards Their First Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27877 #ibm #rhel #centos [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gonebut RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines [01:13] MinceR 21 020616 < vZS1_2> You still need a "trusted browser" to log into certain websites. [01:14] MinceR you can probably use a blink-based browser if you set it up to lie about the UserAgent [01:14] techrights-bot #ZimaBoard is a hackable single-board server http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/145441#comment-27878 #gnu #linux [01:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ZimaBoard, a new Hackable Open Source Single Board Server | Tux Machines [01:15] CrystalMath really CentOS should never have agreed to being bought off by HatRed [01:15] MinceR neither should have deadian [01:15] MinceR yet here we are [01:16] techrights-bot Support for #Istio 1.7 ends on February 19th, 2021 https://istio.io/latest/news/support/announcing-1.7-eol/ #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-istio.io | Istio / Support for Istio 1.7 ends on February 19th, 2021 [01:17] techrights-bot "How do others program? I realized today that I've never actually seen it; in more than 30 years of coding, I've never really watched someone else write nontrivial code over a long period of time." http://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-01-20-19-57_how_others_program.html [01:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sesse.net | Steinar H. Gunderson [01:19] techrights-bot Why and #HowTo Use Optional in #Java | http://knowledgebasement.com/why-and-how-to-use-optional-in-java/ #knowledgebasement #programming [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowledgebasement.com | Why and How to Use Optional in Java | [01:20] techrights-bot "Software developers are highly sought-after tech professionals, and the demand for their skills is continually increasing." https://www.fosslife.org/what-software-developer #programming #freesw #coding [01:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | What Is a Software Developer? [01:20] techrights-bot "Software developers are highly sought-after tech professionals, and the demand for their skills is continually increasing." https://www.fosslife.org/what-software-developer #programming #freesw #coding [01:27] techrights-bot To get a major boost, running #Windows apps [sic] on #GNU #Linux is what comes next http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146589#comment-27880 [01:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC | Tux Machines [01:28] techrights-bot #Vulkan #Wayland Compositors Are Nearing Reality - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vulkan-Wayland-Compositor-Near #Kernel #Linux #deletegithub [01:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan Wayland Compositors Are Nearing Reality - Phoronix [01:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.88 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.31 [01:29] techrights-bot Learn the main #GNU #Linux OS components https://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/feature/Learn-the-main-Linux-OS-components #searchdatacenter [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchdatacenter.techtarget.com | Learn the main Linux OS components [01:33] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146690 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:34] techrights-bot "Edge Computing" nonsense, marketing hype, and buzzwords https://www.iottechtrends.com/drone-technology-expand-edge-computing-potential/ [01:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | How Does Drone Technology Expand Edge Computing Potential? - IoT Tech Trends [01:34] techrights-bot Arduino Blog - Homemade machine puts a new spin on winding yarn https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/20/homemade-machine-puts-a-new-spin-on-winding-yarn/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [01:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog Homemade machine puts a new spin on winding yarn [01:34] MinceR https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/008/567/71d.jpg_large [01:35] MinceR re "Edge Computing" [01:36] Ariadne [17:36:23] Alpine benefited a lot from the Docker boom. Alpine images are light and easy to maintain. [01:37] techrights-bot Devices/Embedded/SBC Hardware With GNU/Linux on Top http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146691 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices/Embedded/SBC Hardware With GNU/Linux on Top | Tux Machines [01:38] Ariadne there's a lot of history here, but the docker and alpine deal actually predates docker. i should write about it sometime [01:38] XRevan86 MinceR: https://youtu.be/BsONSJ0mWFc is this a good moment for some obscure music? [01:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thomas Anders - Living on the Edge - 1989 - YouTube [01:38] MinceR probably [01:39] MinceR considering i'm listening to a C64 music (remix) compilation (which has been pulled from youtube already) [01:40] techrights-bot "Linux in their sights for games too with all their recent games (Artifact, Underlords and Half-Life: Alyx) all having Linux builds, although Alyx is not directly mentioned on the store page for Linux it is available." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/valve-have-multiple-games-in-development-they-will-announce-says-gabe-newell [01:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve have multiple games in development they will announce says Gabe Newell | GamingOnLinux [01:42] techrights-bot "You can buy #CivilizationVI with #GNU #Linux support" but it is #ProprietarySoftware https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/the-next-civilization-vi-dlc-for-the-new-frontier-pass-out-on-january-28 [01:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vietnam joins Civilization VI in the next DLC for the New Frontier Pass on January 28 | GamingOnLinux [01:43] techrights-bot #FlashpeakSlimjet in #PCLinuxOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141761#comment-27881 #gnu #linux [01:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS Review: This Classic Independent Linux Distribution is Definitely Worth a Look | Tux Machines [01:44] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:45] techrights-bot Open Hardware: #Arduino and Little Bee http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146692 #openhardware #TuxMachines [01:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Arduino and Little Bee | Tux Machines [01:46] *XRevan86 wanted to burn postmarketOS with fire but Mobian is too big for the readily available 4G sd-card. [01:46] MinceR get a bigger card? :> [01:47] XRevan86 MinceR: I don't have a clean one. [01:47] MinceR buy one? :> [01:47] XRevan86 Nah, I guess I'll use Jumpstart here. [01:49] techrights-bot The Linux Setup Leah Neukirchen, #VoidLinux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146693 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux Setup Leah Neukirchen, Void Linux | Tux Machines [01:49] XRevan86 * JumpDrive [01:51] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [01:51] MinceR warp drive [01:51] techrights-bot Banon: License changes to #Elasticsearch and #Kibana http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146644#comment-27882 #freesw #licensing [01:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Not So Open Any More: Elasticsearch Relicensing and Implications for Open Source Search | Tux Machines [01:53] techrights-bot #fedora (or #ibm #redhat ): we don't use #freesw but #adobe crap https://www.madelinepeck.com/blog/2021/1/20/january-blog-post-new-year-new-bloggin [01:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madelinepeck.com | January Blog Post (New Year New Bloggin!) Madeline Peck [01:58] techrights-bot #Debian: Vendoring, #FOSSHOST and Freexians Debian LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146694 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Vendoring, FOSSHOST and Freexians Debian LTS | Tux Machines ● Jan 21 [02:02] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/SayNoToDadBod/status/1351715387465895936 [02:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SayNoToDadBod: @BreitbartNews DDG is a leftist org too https://t.co/ynmMrlH7S9 https://t.co/ykc839s323 [02:02] *gry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #techrights [02:07] XRevan86 privacy abuser == leftist? [02:08] XRevan86 Well, that's some interesting stuff. [02:08] techrights-bot Software: #Istio , #VLC Media Player, #Deskreen and #Signal http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146696 [02:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Istio, VLC Media Player, Deskreen and Signal | Tux Machines [02:10] techrights-bot #Security and Latest FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146695 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [02:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Latest FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) | Tux Machines [02:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [02:13] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146697 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [02:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:16] techrights-bot #Google and #Mozilla Embrace More Restrictions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146698 #chromium #firefox #www [02:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google and Mozilla Embrace More Restrictions | Tux Machines [02:18] techrights-bot #FreeSoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146699 #GNU #freeSW [02:18] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:22] techrights-bot GNOME: #outreachy , #flexbox and restrictions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146700 #GNU #Linux #gnome [02:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME: outreachy, flexbox and restrictions | Tux Machines [02:22] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:26] techrights-bot Linux Kernel Space and Graphics: Linux Memory Management, #DbusBroker 26, #Vulkan #Wayland Compositors http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146701 #Kernel #Linux [02:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Space and Graphics: Linux Memory Management, Dbus-Broker 26, Vulkan Wayland Compositors | Tux Machines [02:28] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146702 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [02:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [02:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.31 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.33 [02:30] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [02:30] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [02:32] techrights-bot Links 21/1/2021: #Google Tightens the Screws on Chromium, #VideoLAN #VLC 3.0.12 http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/videolan-vlc-3-0-12/ #Techrights [02:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/1/2021: Google Tightens the Screws on Chromium, VideoLAN VLC 3.0.12 | Techrights [02:33] schestowitz__ XRevan86: to many on the right, left means tech and tech means left [02:34] schestowitz__ as if the trump supporters are "proudly neanderthals" [02:34] MinceR that's probably an insult to neanderthals [02:35] schestowitz__ it is [02:35] schestowitz__ they didn't storm the Capitol [02:35] XRevan86 schestowitz__: And they don't believe in G-d too! [02:35] schestowitz__ gn [02:35] XRevan86 God night [02:37] MinceR o/ [02:37] XRevan86 MinceR: Technically that's racist [02:37] MinceR no, that's subspeciesist [02:37] MinceR Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is not a race [02:37] XRevan86 MinceR: I know, but that doesn't have a ring to it. [02:38] MinceR too bad [02:39] XRevan86 And then there is fiction where mere space aliens are called races. [02:39] XRevan86 Like StarCraft and such. [02:39] MinceR yet another way in which starcraft sucks [02:43] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200121.txt Read the log now... [02:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 [02:43] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[02:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 [02:45] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:48] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-20.txt [02:56] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 21 [03:00] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 337 MB TotalOut: 174 MB [03:00] techrights-ipfs New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID: [03:01] techrights-ipfs QmNcdQdqw6MsmTQgXZtgXw17tcfeoFPLyrxGZUveGVZ3cd [03:09] XRevan86 huh, how weird [03:09] XRevan86 Mobian has an additional repo which has only one branch: mobian ( http://repo.mobian-project.org/ ) [03:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-repo.mobian-project.org | Index of / [03:09] XRevan86 But in sources.list they put the Debian's repo with the bullseye codename. [03:10] XRevan86 Is it supposed to be like permanent testing or not? I can't tell. [03:14] XRevan86 Either way, it's clearly versts ahead of postmarketOS, because it doesn't epicly lag. [03:14] MinceR does it lag lyrically? :> [03:15] XRevan86 it lags moderately [03:15] XRevan86 like gtk3 naturally would [03:16] MinceR :> [03:17] XRevan86 animations in gtk3 are done through cairo, so a weak cpu will not be able to process them smoothly [03:19] XRevan86 Both Manjaro and Mobian bundle Telegram [03:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.66 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.45 [03:30] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [03:40] *acerbox (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [03:41] *acer-box______ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) ● Jan 21 [04:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.13 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.95 [04:49] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Jan 21 [05:00] *acer-box (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [05:01] *acerbox has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [05:19] *acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [05:19] *acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [05:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.53 [05:32] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [05:36] *livestradamus has quit (Quit: I'm out.) 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You can get paid to help. https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/20/2500-for-peoplechart-prior-art [07:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,500 for Peoplechart Prior Art Unified Patents [07:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.88 [07:30] techrights-bot Blogs about #patents are so dead/dying that they write about #Wildlife instead of #patent issues https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/dire-wolf-dna-shows-distinct-new-world-lineage.html [07:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Dire Wolf DNA Shows Distinct New World Lineage [07:35] techrights-bot "When I compiled LibreOffice recently on the Pi4, was unable to use the 'boost', 'harfbuzz' and 'neon' system packages, had to use internal versions." https://bkhome.org/news/202101/tweaks-for-openembedded-dunfell.html [07:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Tweaks for OpenEmbedded Dunfell [07:39] techrights-bot "The startup has container security capabilities that are missing in Red Hat's #OpenShift #Kubernetes platform." https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/deals/red-hats-stackrox-acquisition-bolsters-its-hybrid-multi-cloud-strategy by @brideoflinux [07:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datacenterknowledge.com | Red Hat's StackRox Deal Adds Container Security, Bolsters Multi-Cloud | Data Center Knowledge [07:41] techrights-bot "Is performance the ultimate requirement? What amount of compromise are we comfortable with?" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/144012/electron-ennui-coder-radio-397/ [07:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Electron Ennui | Coder Radio 397 | Jupiter Broadcasting [07:46] techrights-bot In a Move to Retain Small-Scale #CentOS Users, #IBM #RedHat Allows Free #RHEL Download [With Ifs and Buts] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27883 [07:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gonebut RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines [07:50] techrights-bot "Starting from today, there is a new User groups page on the #GodotEngine website! This page replaces the old User groups page by featuring a community map that can be freely navigated and contributed to." https://godotengine.org/article/announcing-new-community-map-user-groups #deletegithub [07:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Announcing the new community map for user groups [07:50] techrights-bot "With the in-development Linux 5.11 kernel there are many great features and improvements especially for AMD users with some new drivers and other pleasant enhancements" #linux #kernel https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.11-AMD-Inv-Freq-Patch [07:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Fix Has Been Proposed For The Slower AMD Performance On Linux 5.11 - Phoronix [07:54] techrights-bot #Chrome 88 makes it easier to manage and change passwords http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146698#comment-27884 [07:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google and Mozilla Embrace More Restrictions | Tux Machines [07:54] techrights-bot #Perl weekly challenge 096 - #RakuLang http://blogs.perl.org/users/joan_mimosinnet/2021/01/perl-weekly-challenge-096---raku.html #programming [07:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl weekly challenge 096 - Raku | Joan Mimosinnet [blogs.perl.org] [07:58] techrights-bot #Python #Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146703 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [07:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux Machines [07:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts ● Jan 21 [08:00] techrights-bot "Are you looking for open-source solid modeling software for your Linux PC? We recommend you try BRL-CAD. FOSS Linux brings you a detailed guide on its set up and usage." https://www.fosslinux.com/28454/brlcad-open-source-solid-modeling-cad-software.htm [08:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | BRLCAD : Open-Source Solid Modeling CAD Software | FOSS Linux [08:01] techrights-bot #Lightworks not fulfilling its promote to become #freesw (even partly) https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lightworks-2021.1-Released [08:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lightworks 2021.1 Released With UI Improvements, Other Video Editor Enhancements - Phoronix [08:08] techrights-bot #VLC 3.0.12 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146696#comment-27885 #freesw [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Istio, VLC Media Player, Deskreen and Signal | Tux Machines [08:08] techrights-bot More on #Linux for #M1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660#comment-27886 #gnu #hardware #apple [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux Machines [08:09] techrights-bot #Ryzen 7 3700X + #popOS #gnu #linux https://boilingsteam.com/serval-ws-the-beast-laptop-from-system76/ [08:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Serval WS - The Beast Laptop from System76 - Boiling Steam [08:11] techrights-bot Today #BT will phone me after another escalation, this time looking into #throttling and capping, which they FINALLY acknowledge. BT cannot keep up to standards due to #covid19 lockdowns. It can't be alone... [08:12] techrights-bot This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [08:13] techrights-bot A possible step toward integrity measurement for #Fedora https://lwn.net/Articles/842002/ #ibm #RedHat #gnu #linux [08:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A possible step toward integrity measurement for Fedora [LWN.net] [08:14] techrights-bot Old #compilers and old bugs https://lwn.net/Articles/842122/ #programming #linux #kernel [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Old compilers and old bugs [LWN.net] [08:15] *notanamber (~luca@2001:b07:a16:5bc0:bd01:a12:47e2:5907) has joined #techrights [08:15] *tr_guest|14915 (b0bc4840@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.188.72.64) has joined #techrights [08:16] *tr_guest|14915 has quit (Client Quit) [08:18] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146704 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:21] *DVulgaris has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:24] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) 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Spec, Price, and More. | Tux Machines [09:23] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/irc-log-200121/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [09:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 | Techrights [09:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.15 [09:56] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 21 [10:19] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:26] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). [10:26] *Now talking on #techrights [10:26] *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell [10:26] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 [10:30] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:41] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [10:42] Tcl interface unloaded [10:42] Python interface unloaded [10:43] *Now talking on #techrights [10:43] *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell [10:43] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 [10:44] *techrights-bot (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9e47:addf:5b42:cd6d) has joined #techrights [10:45] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:56d9:b4ab:9574:64f3) has joined #techrights [10:45] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 20.85 [10:47] techrights-bot Just got off the phone with #BT manager. I will report them to the #ombudsman and they're already preparing to defend themselves by sending face-saving letters. #ofcom #internet #throttling [10:49] techrights-bot #BT is very afraid to admit: 1) traffic shaping and 2) issues with capacity due to #covid19 lockdown. They've escalated the discussion to managers who are mincing words. [10:51] techrights-bot #RaspberryPi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the #RaspberryPiPico http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux Machines ● Jan 21 [11:02] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:11] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [11:15] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [11:15] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:18] techrights-bot #Lightworks 2021.1 Is Out: Biggest Release For Linux, Mac, And Windows http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146708 [11:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lightworks 2021.1 Is Out: Biggest Release For Linux, Mac, And Windows | Tux Machines [11:21] techrights-bot #Wine 6.0 now available to download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146470#comment-27889 #gnu #linux #unix [11:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.0 Officially Released with Vulkan Backend for WineD3D, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [11:23] techrights-bot How #Nextcloud is the ultimate open source productivity suite http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146709 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw [11:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Nextcloud is the ultimate open source productivity suite | Tux Machines [11:24] techrights-bot #Mecool KM6 Deluxe (Amlogic S905X4) TV Box Review http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146710 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [11:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mecool KM6 Deluxe (Amlogic S905X4) TV Box Review | Tux Machines [11:26] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [11:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.53 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 18.50 [11:30] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:36] *Condor has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [11:39] techrights-bot #BT compensates for bad service by hiring managers based on their "niceness" rather than technical knowledge (they have almost none; so they can dodge a discussion based on the substance). I'm filing a formal complaint. [11:42] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [11:43] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:49] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XXIV: Love for Microsoft, Not for #FreeSoftware or Whatever Replaces Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-love-for-microsoft/ #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [11:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXIV: Love for Microsoft, Not for Free Software or Whatever Replaces Microsoft | Techrights [11:52] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:53] techrights-bot #RaspberryPiPico Announced As $4 Microcontroller http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27893 #RasPi #GNU #Linux [11:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux Machines [11:55] *kingoffrance (~x@2601:681:8200:b890:4b2a:b386:9d31:590e) has joined #techrights ● Jan 21 [12:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 20.15 [12:45] psydroid "even in units that are supposed to complete" <- compete? [12:59] *Lantizia__ has quit (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))) ● Jan 21 [13:02] *Lantizia_ (~Lantizia@functionoffice/staff/Lantizia) has joined #techrights [13:04] *Lantizia__ (~Lantizia@functionoffice/staff/Lantizia) has joined #techrights [13:07] *Lantizia_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [13:22] techrights-bot #Intel is basing its big decisions on buzzwords and firms that master buzzwords; its sad that instead of listening to Intels own (in-house) engineers its relying on a bunch of clowns http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-love-for-microsoft/ [13:23] schestowitz__ psydroid: fixing [13:24] psydroid they are hiring back the lead architect for Nehalem after hiring Gelsinger as their CEO [13:25] psydroid someone who retired 3 years ago [13:26] techrights-bot Update on #epo today... http://techrights.org/2020/12/18/epo-strike-report/ coming shortly... the latest [13:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Almost Half of Vienna-based EPO Staff Went on Strike This Past Week | Techrights [13:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 30.31 [13:29] techrights-bot #epo attacks not only its own staff but also pensioners http://techrights.org/2021/01/01/sap-pensioners-epo/ [13:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Leak: Todays EPO Breaks Its Contract With Former Staff of the EPO, Not Just Existing Staff | Techrights [13:30] schestowitz__ psydroid: any link for that? [13:45] techrights-bot "As far as I know, UK appeal is much more law based than at the EPO." #EPO is rogue and corrupt, and it's run by friends of friends rather than qualified managers. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611179817027#c7633250144337924548 [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat [13:46] vZS1_2 #NepotismInEPO [13:46] techrights-bot These people and this site are insane; they push for #patents on #nature and lie on behalf of overzealous #law firms, without understanding what's at stake or asking the public for its stance on such matters https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q6r7dvq3jbbn/monoclonal-antibody-biosimilars-pose-unique-ip-challenges [13:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Monoclonal antibody biosimilars pose unique IP challenges | Managing Intellectual Property [13:47] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146711 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:48] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: pretty much... [13:48] schestowitz__ I have a new leak ready [13:48] schestowitz__ if you want to proof-read... [13:48] vZS1_2 Can do. Will be heading out soon, however. [13:48] schestowitz__ 1 minute... [13:48] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [13:49] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/the-epo-petition/ [13:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Central Staff Representatives (CSC) of the EPO Are Petitioning to End the Assault on EPO Staff | Techrights [13:49] schestowitz__ ok, quick, vZS1_2 [13:49] schestowitz__ trying to weed out typos to avoid ad hom responses [13:49] vZS1_2 On it [13:52] psydroid schestowitz_, https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6757491729093451776/ [13:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Glenn Hinton on LinkedIn: After enjoying a real retirement for 3 years I have decided to go | 105 comments [13:54] schestowitz__ aha [13:55] psydroid they wouldn't have had to, if it wasn't for so many hardware engineers leaving for other companies (Apple, Ampere Computing etc.) [13:56] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: Didn't catch anything wrong. [13:56] schestowitz__ ty [13:56] schestowitz__ :-) [13:57] vZS1_2 Yw [13:58] schestowitz__ psydroid: anything else? [13:58] vZS1_2 EU "management" is all about nepotism. [13:59] techrights-bot The Central Staff Representatives (CSC) of the EPO Are Petitioning to End the Assault on EPO Staff http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/the-epo-petition/ #Techrights #EPO [13:59] MinceR no, there's also corruption [13:59] vZS1_2 A lot of whom are unelected [13:59] vZS1_2 Nepotism is a form of corruption [13:59] MinceR and appeasement of fascists ● Jan 21 [14:00] MinceR other forms of corruption are also common in the EU institutions [14:00] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: sad in a sense... as I like the EU [14:00] schestowitz__ but the more I see the more I go "hmmm" [14:00] schestowitz__ Breton, VLY... [14:00] MinceR though i'm not quite sure if the likes of the CFU are appeasing fideath or they agree with the whole plan [14:01] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/ [14:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights [14:01] schestowitz__ slaverty [14:01] schestowitz__ slavery [14:01] MinceR and just pretend to be opposed [14:01] schestowitz__ the real kind, not some name of git repo [14:01] schestowitz__ or branch [14:01] schestowitz__ brb [14:01] schestowitz__ next video about swpats [14:04] vZS1_2 When mass media belongs to the same people, it's not exactly easy to expose them. [14:05] schestowitz__ billgates bribes some EU sites [14:05] vZS1_2 Example [14:05] vZS1_2 "The petition itself reads as follows and its dated one week before Christmas Day. We strongly encourage each and every member of staff to join this petition as the risk associated with doing so is little to none. Theres a lot that collective action can accomplish, even if the media looks the other way." [14:05] schestowitz__ like 'news' sites, e.g. euractiv [14:05] schestowitz__ many won't know this [14:05] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: yes, the EPO bribes and blackmailed the media [14:05] schestowitz__ AFTER it covered it [14:06] schestowitz__ it also threatened me several times [14:06] schestowitz__ as it did others [14:06] schestowitz__ it's a Mafia [14:07] vZS1_2 Plutocrats are all thugs. [14:07] vZS1_2 Robber barons. Name is still appropriate. [14:12] vZS1_2 The lawyers and judges are all in their pocket as well so they get preferential treatment in the judicial system. [14:13] vZS1_2 And a lot of the time it isn't even clear if you can take them to court. EPO is a good example. [14:14] vZS1_2 Or you try to hold them accountable and the bodies responsible for oversight are their pals. Lets them off the hook. EPO again. [14:14] vZS1_2 That's corruption. [14:15] vZS1_2 And this is just one part of the EU "management" that's corrupt. I'm sure there are several other bodies but lack of whistleblowers. [14:19] psydroid schestowitz_, nothing else for now [14:22] psydroid Although this is getting me thinking that a relatively cheap but powerful GNU/Linux computer attached to every TV/monitor is becoming more and more of a reality and this could be worrying to Intel with respect to things like their overpriced NUC desktops as well [14:23] psydroid and of course this [14:23] psydroid https://corellium.com/blog/linux-m1 [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-corellium.com | How We Ported Linux to the M1 [14:24] vZS1_2 bbl [14:24] *tdemin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 30.83 [14:30] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.182.17.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [14:32] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:33] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [14:50] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [14:52] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jan 21 [15:08] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:09] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:10] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.194.10.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [15:11] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:18] Techrights-sec What can be done to get the trade press to take up the topic of [15:18] Techrights-sec software patents? [15:18] schestowitz__ we tried. It's a waste of time/effort. [15:18] MinceR who's Techrights-sec? :> [15:19] schestowitz__ Jeff Epstein himself !! [15:19] MinceR lol [15:19] schestowitz__ serious answer: [15:19] *psydroid has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) [15:19] *DaemonFC[m] has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) [15:19] *BifrostBot[m] has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) [15:19] *amreo[m] has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) [15:19] schestowitz__ someone who helps with techrights and prefer not to go by real name [15:19] MinceR ic [15:19] schestowitz__ *prefers [15:19] MinceR i thought it was a bot [15:19] MinceR due to all the techrights* bots [15:20] schestowitz__ each is a different program [15:20] schestowitz__ Techrights-sec is actually a funnel from ytalk [15:20] schestowitz__ like a bridge [15:21] MinceR interesting [15:22] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:22] *vZS1_2 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:23] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.193.126.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [15:27] schestowitz__ maybe I can explain how it's done in some future post [15:27] schestowitz__ but ... tbh ... it's not of much general use or interest [15:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 20.15 [15:29] *psydroid (psydroidma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-avtmpbsbdqnnkwjs) has joined #techrights [15:38] techrights-bot Hey Hi (AI) is Just a Trojan Horse for Illegal #SoftwarePatents , According to EPO Management and Litigation Firms Its in Bed With http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/epo-says-hey-hi/ #epo #swpats #europe #heyhi [15:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hey Hi (AI) is Just a Trojan Horse for Illegal Software Patents, According to EPO Management and Litigation Firms Its in Bed With | Techrights [15:45] *BifrostBot[m] (bifrostmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ithbgrfwukgnfcfs) has joined #techrights [15:45] *DaemonFC[m] (daemonfcma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-vgeylvmesbaczeov) has joined #techrights [15:45] *amreo[m] (amreomatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-onovmhrxemdvahpy) has joined #techrights [15:54] schestowitz__ psydroid: i need your assistance.. ● Jan 21 [16:00] psydroid schestowitz__: I'm here [16:02] psydroid https://www.anandtech.com/show/16438/new-intel-ceo-making-waves-rehiring-retired-cpu-architects [16:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | New Intel CEO Making Waves: Rehiring Retired CPU Architects [16:02] psydroid "Intel could get away with being lazy in the server space as Windows was the most widely used server OS, ran only on x86, and Linux was a non-factor. Those days are long gone." [16:03] *scientes2 (~scientes2@185.70.54.19) has joined #techrights [16:03] scientes2 xRaven86 do you know that russian youtube client, that is the same client but with pro enabled? [16:03] scientes2 I forget the name [16:04] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-unusual-measures/ [16:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXV: Intels Brain Drain Leads to Unusual Measures | Techrights [16:04] schestowitz__ psydroid: does it read OK to you? [16:04] schestowitz__ I will add the reference you added just now [16:04] psydroid schestowitz__: let me see [16:06] psydroid yes, it does [16:06] techrights-bot How a Newly Inaugurated President #Biden Can Advance Software Freedom (If He Actually Wishes to Do So) http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/biden-four-suggestions/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [16:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How a Newly Inaugurated President Biden Can Advance Software Freedom (If He Actually Wishes to Do So) | Techrights [16:08] psydroid it's many things coming together for Intel at the same time, so it's not just GNU/Linux or Apple, but essentially an entire industry wanting to get rid of the stronghold the company has over it [16:12] schestowitz__ added quote [16:13] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XXV: Intels Brain Drain Leads to Unusual Measures http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-unusual-measures/ #Techrights #Intel http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [16:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [16:15] techrights-bot #intel very rapidly became a laughing stock of an employer because it hired clueless people who drive out the technical people http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [16:16] vZS1 It's now commonplace. They're so busy circle-jerking over their buzzwords and nepotism the they're driving the companies into the ground [16:17] vZS1 The old CEOs and founders are usually not around so it's not the same environment where they needed to be actually doing real work to survive as companies [16:18] vZS1 Now they just buy their competition that threaten the monopoly. [16:19] schestowitz__ antitrust does not exist [16:19] vZS1 That's why strong anti-trust and anti-monopoly systems need to be put in place and maintained [16:19] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/A_Critic%27s_Free_Software_Dictionary#Antitrust_law [16:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Critic's Free Software Dictionary - Techrights [16:19] schestowitz__ " A mythical, unicorn-like creature that protects consumers from monopolistic corruption. Last known sighting in 2001. " [16:19] vZS1 Sleepy Joe is actively sabotaging anti-trust with his appointments [16:20] schestowitz__ yes, as noted [16:20] schestowitz__ by sites I cite anyway [16:20] schestowitz__ not sure if MSM covers it [16:20] schestowitz__ maybe it does [16:20] schestowitz__ but I would not be on it [16:21] schestowitz__ Biden is now "hope" and "change" [16:21] vZS1 It used to exist in the 60s-70s. AT&T were forbidden from entering the computing market [16:21] schestowitz__ don't spoil the plutocrats' sold asset to the 'plebs' [16:21] schestowitz__ vZS1: IBM also [16:21] schestowitz__ TR covered it last year [16:21] schestowitz__ lots on IBM [16:21] schestowitz__ harder to find now [16:21] schestowitz__ esp. on www [16:21] schestowitz__ it was pre-www [16:21] vZS1 Yeah [16:21] vZS1 I need to go and read those relevant TR pieces [16:21] schestowitz__ we uploaded some old PDFs [16:21] schestowitz__ scans [16:22] schestowitz__ not digital, but typed [16:22] schestowitz__ as they become rarer [16:22] schestowitz__ and many "hatters" treat IBM like cutesy [16:22] schestowitz__ "IBM LOVES LINUX" [16:22] schestowitz__ decades of conditioning [16:23] schestowitz__ forgetting how IBM and MSFT colluded [16:23] schestowitz__ and still do in many areas [16:23] schestowitz__ IBM LOVES INCOME [16:23] schestowitz__ (patent extortion included) [16:24] schestowitz__ Krishna/Red Hat/Whitehurst: ZASSS NICHT MA DEPARTMENT!! [16:25] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146716 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [16:27] schestowitz__ [15:33] note that the contact who told me about the Bxxxxxxxxxxxxx incident of 2020 was not Lxxxxxxxxx but a different person who *still* works there [16:27] schestowitz__ :-D [16:28] schestowitz__ still no source ever caught [16:28] schestowitz__ soon 15 years [16:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.16 [16:32] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/superherointj/status/1352200077373222912 [16:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@superherointj: @swyx I have switched from DuckDuckGo. https://t.co/2DWifFdufB [16:32] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:32] schestowitz__ vzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1352287554226286592 [16:33] schestowitz__ zoobab: vzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1352287554226286592 [16:33] schestowitz__ they tried and failed for 4 years [16:33] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:33] schestowitz__ under the D party they will struggle even more [16:33] schestowitz__ as tech giants with clout don't want it [16:33] schestowitz__ It's "BIG LITIGATION" that wants it [16:33] schestowitz__ Like Iancu's firm [16:36] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:37] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:39] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:39] techrights-bot #deletegithub https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1352175180169310221 [16:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @Keruspe @bagder @schestowitz I use git since the early days, always bragged since day 1 about their "decentralized https://t.co/A7F3VvImnB [16:44] schestowitz__ zoobab: Git itself can be decentralised [16:44] schestowitz__ if done right [16:45] schestowitz__ there's also a p2p variant/implementation of it [16:45] schestowitz__ but I heard it is not reliable [16:45] schestowitz__ maybe some webhosts wish to make an easy setup process for one's own domain with something like gitea (not sure about gitlab with their "community edition") [16:45] schestowitz__ and the webhost can offer support and maintenance for it [16:46] schestowitz__ if unhappy, you keep the domain, move to another host [16:46] schestowitz__ or self-host, maybe from home [16:46] vZS1_2 Depends on your definition of decentralised [16:46] schestowitz__ yeah [16:46] schestowitz__ they also misuse terms like "distributed" [16:46] vZS1_2 Git is already pretty decentralised [16:46] schestowitz__ I did a video after you and I debated this (in er Rust or Raku, not sure) [16:46] schestowitz__ *in re [16:47] schestowitz__ at our company we have our own git server [16:47] vZS1_2 The Git object database can also be made "distributed" quite easily. [16:48] vZS1_2 You don't really need Git to be p2p [16:48] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:48] vZS1_2 The idea of Git itself is just to track code. [16:48] schestowitz__ code changes [16:48] schestowitz__ esp. [16:48] schestowitz__ and who by etc. [16:48] schestowitz__ not bug reports [16:49] vZS1_2 Yeah [16:49] schestowitz__ but [16:49] schestowitz__ with proper operations and mailing lists you can have that too [16:49] schestowitz__ with proper tagging and filing [16:49] vZS1_2 You don't even need a mailing list. Bugzilla still works great. [16:49] schestowitz__ and email will be around for a vvvvvvvvvery long time [16:49] schestowitz__ with thousands of applications supporting and understanding email [16:49] vZS1_2 Especially private email servers. [16:49] schestowitz__ i installed bugzilla for nhs [16:50] vZS1_2 You can make do with Git + IRC + bug-tracker-X [16:53] vZS1_2 It boils down to DVCS+communication+bug-tracking. [16:53] vZS1_2 You can fit in your choice for each slot [16:53] vZS1_2 Anything else is superficial [16:55] schestowitz__ yup [16:55] schestowitz__ BTW, I did not forget about the next ipfs project or two [16:55] vZS1_2 Neither have I. Just have a lot going on atm. [16:55] schestowitz__ I want to ensure the image->unicode conversion is settled/stabled [16:56] schestowitz__ it's already a lot more legible with Braille as glyphs [16:56] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:56] schestowitz__ Cultural appropriation of blind people? ;-0 [16:56] vZS1_2 I've got a couple things to sort out over the next 2-3 months. Then I can work more on the TR infra. [16:56] vZS1_2 lol [16:56] schestowitz__ not sure if you saw it, but... [16:57] schestowitz__ I am going to file a complaint about BT [16:57] schestowitz__ And they insist on sending me a letter first [16:57] vZS1_2 I did see it. I follow your personal RSS feed now. [16:57] schestowitz__ I guess it's their procedure for discouraging people from going ahead ● Jan 21 [17:00] vZS1_2 Also, I saw Techrights-sec mention something along the lines of where's the media coverage for swpats. [17:00] vZS1_2 I agree that we should assume it won't get any [17:00] techrights-bot The EPO, just one month after the staff went on strike, is about to receive a compelling #petition to stop the assault on #EPO staff http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/the-epo-petition/ #europe #patents #swpats [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Central Staff Representatives (CSC) of the EPO Are Petitioning to End the Assault on EPO Staff | Techrights [17:01] vZS1_2 The best we can hope for is to gain ground at the grass-roots level [17:01] techrights-bot The longtime pushers or the lobby of #patent profiteers just carry on pushing for #softwarepatents , nowadays latching onto the inane and unwarranted media hype around #HeyHi (AI) a hype wave that was co-opted by #EPO management to grant unlawful #patents http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/epo-says-hey-hi/ [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hey Hi (AI) is Just a Trojan Horse for Illegal Software Patents, According to EPO Management and Litigation Firms Its in Bed With | Techrights [17:03] techrights-bot #Techrights has Four Suggestions to President #Biden , the 46th front end of American #plutocracy http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/biden-four-suggestions/ [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How a Newly Inaugurated President Biden Can Advance Software Freedom (If He Actually Wishes to Do So) | Techrights [17:04] techrights-bot As the company once known as #chipzilla loses its relevance and dominance in the market its reaching out to retired people, trying to get them back onboard http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-unusual-measures/ #intel #hardware #crisis [17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXV: Intels Brain Drain Leads to Unusual Measures | Techrights [17:04] vZS1_2 And it's working. TR has got more whistleblowers come to it. [17:05] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [17:05] *karolyi[m] (karolyikso@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qcsxsfbhtwztaetc) has joined #techrights [17:05] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:06] schestowitz__ [17:00] I agree that we should assume it won't get any [17:06] schestowitz__ There used to be [17:06] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [17:06] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:06] schestowitz__ as zoobab can attest (he has been in it longer than I have, almost 20 years), there used to be lots of media debate about patentability of software [17:06] schestowitz__ now the media is dead or mum [17:06] schestowitz__ and panels on the subject as just "HEY HI" [17:06] *karolyi (~karolyi@ksol.io) has joined #techrights [17:07] schestowitz__ no discussions of substance in EU Parl, either [17:07] schestowitz__ hi, karolyi [17:07] karolyi hey [17:07] schestowitz__ new here? [17:07] karolyi I'm trying to join though matrix [17:07] schestowitz__ ah, I heard there are bridges for it [17:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:07] *scientes2 has quit (Quit: Quit) [17:08] karolyi ah yes, I was reading an article about DDG, linked that for lots of people, and today I decided to take a look at the entire site, and I must say that there's so great material on it, it ended up added to my RSS reader [17:08] karolyi[m] testing [17:09] schestowitz__ I saw some links to it in twitter [17:09] schestowitz__ and some people who after reading it said they would dump ddg [17:09] vZS1_2 karolyi, there's also a very comprehensive Wiki: http://techrights.org/wiki/Main_Page [17:09] schestowitz__ we actually wrote a lot about ddg a decade or so ago [17:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Main Page - Techrights [17:10] schestowitz__ organising a site with 30k blog posts is a challenge [17:10] schestowitz__ as blogs are linear, chronological, unlike books with a particular sequences and chapter and sub/sections [17:10] schestowitz__ anyway, bbiab [17:10] schestowitz__ will catch up with gnu/linux news [17:10] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: o/ [17:10] karolyi well the site needs a design revamp [17:11] karolyi looks kinda clunky with my dark reader, but I can take it, content matters more [17:11] vZS1_2 It's a WIP. [17:11] vZS1_2 For the newer stuff, you can read the bulletins. They're text-only [17:11] schestowitz__ we weighed changed for 12 years [17:12] schestowitz__ but each time the downsides seemed greater than benefits [17:12] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/txt [17:12] karolyi vZS1_2: no worries, it's already in my feedly, reading articles that way [17:12] schestowitz__ we want to get off www/html/http eventually [17:12] schestowitz__ to the degree possible [17:12] schestowitz__ or make the web interface just an "option" [17:13] vZS1_2 Hybrid approach is what we're aiming for, right? [17:13] karolyi[m] uh, messages from irc to matrix have a delay, maybe it's just my client still syncing? [17:13] schestowitz__ as the www is obese and upsetting to the target audience of ours anyway.... not people who think FB is "the Web" [17:13] schestowitz__ karolyi[m]: ask DaemonFC[m] [17:13] schestowitz__ he uses those bridges [17:13] schestowitz__ maybe there are different types of bridges or software or relays [17:14] karolyi schestowitz__: get off to what? [17:14] schestowitz__ ipfs, text [17:14] schestowitz__ we thought at first gopher/gemini [17:14] schestowitz__ but there are issues with them also [17:15] schestowitz__ we looked at a bunch of others, about half a dozen last year [17:15] schestowitz__ then vZS1_2 came and helped set up p2p-like protocols [17:15] karolyi I think you have to think of the normies, they will keep using browsers, and especially with the recent fleeing from big tech, you will get a big push [17:15] schestowitz__ browsers are still an option [17:15] schestowitz__ nothing wrong with most browsers [17:15] vZS1_2 We have stuff like Brave and HTTP-gateways to cover the normies. [17:15] schestowitz__ but over 80% of www users uses malware called "browser' [17:15] schestowitz__ like "edge" or "chrome" or "safari" [17:16] schestowitz__ those are not tenable for freedom anymore, they even come with blobs for DRM [17:16] schestowitz__ "because pirates!" [17:16] vZS1_2 All our ipfs files are accessible in any web browser over the public IPFS gateway [17:16] karolyi well, you might as well stop using anything with a CPU then ... [17:17] schestowitz__ No, many CPUs are fine [17:17] schestowitz__ that's false equivalence [17:17] schestowitz__ in fact, there are more open hardware CPUs now [17:17] karolyi with what AMD and Intel has... that is straight out optional spying on everything [17:17] schestowitz__ risc-v is the most promising atm [17:17] karolyi I'm all for open HW [17:17] schestowitz__ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146431 [17:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seeed launches BeagleV, a $150 RISC-V computer designed to run Linux | Tux Machines [17:17] schestowitz__ whole computers [17:17] karolyi but, I can't just print circuits [17:17] schestowitz__ not expensive [17:18] schestowitz__ karolyi: you might not be able to write a browser from scratch either [17:18] schestowitz__ but some will do it for you and share [17:18] karolyi there's also this, we talked about it in my matrix room the other day: http://www.homebrewcpu.com/ [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.homebrewcpu.com | Homebrew CPU Home Page [17:18] schestowitz__ same for CPU designs [17:18] schestowitz__ karolyi: you allude to AMD PSP and Intel's ME [17:19] schestowitz__ eventually we want to move away from those [17:19] karolyi yes I do [17:19] schestowitz__ with NVIDIA I might not want to use ARM anymore [17:19] schestowitz__ US/NSA and binary culture of secrecy and DRM [17:19] karolyi we who? [17:19] schestowitz__ we as in people who pursue tech right, s/w freedom [17:19] schestowitz__ generally taking back control of cpmputing [17:19] karolyi count me in, then :) [17:20] schestowitz__ tackling the asymmetric relationship [17:20] karolyi I'm all for it [17:20] schestowitz__ Like browsers being used to hoover up our browsing history for spy agencies [17:20] schestowitz__ it's only getting worse [17:20] schestowitz__ you cannot fix the rogues [17:20] schestowitz__ so you create alternative [17:20] karolyi I'm on waterfox now... after ditching chrome, it seemed to be the best option, even if it's an older gecko [17:20] schestowitz__ and then foster those and nurture them with more users [17:20] schestowitz__ waterfox spies [17:21] schestowitz__ system1 [17:21] vZS1_2 homebrewcpu looks very impressive. [17:21] schestowitz__ they got 'bought [17:21] schestowitz__ like startpage [17:21] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights [17:21] karolyi schestowitz__: spies how? telemetry is off per default in it [17:21] schestowitz__ waterfox devs hate me/us for exposing their deal with the devil, system1 [17:21] karolyi ah, I fixed the search engine part already... using a german guy's searx instance [17:22] schestowitz__ karolyi: they're owned (wholly or partially) by a spying company [17:22] schestowitz__ I use searx also [17:22] schestowitz__ https://searx.feneas.org is fast and reliable [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searx.feneas.org | searx [17:22] karolyi schestowitz__: you get no argument from me on that, but as long the source is open and there's no botnet built in, it's good enough for my standards, until there will be something better [17:23] schestowitz__ https://www.ghacks.net/2020/02/14/waterfox-web-browser-sold-to-system1/ [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Waterfox web browser sold to System1 - gHacks Tech News [17:23] karolyi[m] I'm in Germany so I picked a german instance from the list [17:23] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/10/17/mozilla-abandoned-users/ [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Sad Story of Mozilla Keeps Getting Sadder Because Mozillas Managers Abandoned Users and Chose Companies as Their Clients | Techrights [17:23] karolyi mozilla is fucked, imo [17:23] schestowitz__ they have problem [17:23] schestowitz__ I support them in spirit [17:23] karolyi but, the source is out there, can be improved [17:23] schestowitz__ but I think they got too badly fed [17:23] schestowitz__ 'f'ed [17:24] schestowitz__ bad leadership [17:24] vZS1_2 Infiltrated org [17:24] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/ [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hires From Microsoft for Mozillas Board | Techrights [17:24] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights [17:24] schestowitz__ Run by people who are into "data science" [17:24] schestowitz__ "hey hi" (AI) [17:24] schestowitz__ "big date" [17:24] schestowitz__ They try to become "Data firm" like GOogle [17:25] karolyi and the SJW agenda, yes. but like I said, as long as the code is solid ... I would build on top of that, but I don't have the manpower [17:25] schestowitz__ while Google sponsors them [17:25] schestowitz__ GNU has a Firefox fork of sorts [17:25] schestowitz__ manybe several [17:25] schestowitz__ *maybe [17:25] schestowitz__ waterfox started with good intentions, but there was no business model apparently... so they have a new boss now [17:25] schestowitz__ I use falkon myself [17:26] karolyi there was palemoon I think, but it doesn't support webrtc since that has some closed source code I think [17:26] schestowitz__ it's the kde browser, I've used that for half a decade almost [17:26] vZS1_2 Gnu IceCat is a project that tries to keep Firefox free from contamination [17:26] schestowitz__ I also use konqueror and used to use rekonq when it was still actively maintained [17:26] schestowitz__ they gather no data at all [17:26] karolyi yes, but can you confirm waterfox does? [17:27] zoobab Git over IPFS means some commits/repos will disseaper due to garbage collect [17:27] zoobab I would store all the code in a giant blockchain [17:28] vZS1_2 >zoobab Git over IPFS means some commits/repos will disseaper due to garbage collect [17:28] karolyi I chose that because it still somewhat functional (webrtc with matrix is a big point for me, I'm building communication networks), and not ungoogled chromium because of the CNAME first party advertiser fiasco that can't be filtered out in it [17:28] vZS1_2 That is false. When you pin an IPFS object, it doesn't get garbage collected. [17:28] zoobab ok [17:28] zoobab good news [17:28] schestowitz__ ipfs is good [17:28] schestowitz__ you need to use it for a while to grasp it [17:28] zoobab meaning you would have to force 'pining' by default [17:28] schestowitz__ very robust [17:28] schestowitz__ I can kill off my ipfs process here [17:28] schestowitz__ and techrights would still be served by 'url' (CID) [17:29] zoobab I looked at porting to openwrt, but Go was already a problem [17:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.10 [17:29] vZS1_2 You can easily pin/unpin CIDs. There's an entire CLI for go-ipfs. [17:29] zoobab I heard there are now C implementations [17:29] karolyi how old is this techrights thing? I just bumped into it recently [17:29] schestowitz__ we use the golang one [17:29] schestowitz__ never crashed on me (yet) [17:29] schestowitz__ for 3 months [17:29] zoobab I guess this is the most used [17:29] schestowitz__ karolyi: 15 years this year [17:30] vZS1_2 go-ipfs is the only stable implementation I know of [17:30] zoobab FFII was created in 1998 [17:30] schestowitz__ 'stable' ;-) [17:30] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: you had issues with it lately ;-) [17:30] zoobab after some dispute in Germany with Axel Horns [17:30] karolyi FFII? [17:30] vZS1_2 That's more down to me probably I did a lot of changes at once. [17:31] vZS1_2 Hasn't crashed on schestowitz__ yet [17:31] zoobab Hartmut Pilch was in FITUG [17:31] schestowitz__ is he still in EPO? [17:31] schestowitz__ I asked around recently? [17:32] karolyi I'm late to the party then, although I count as an internet veteran.... would've been nice to discover you guys earlier :) [17:32] zoobab https://www.fitug.de/debate/9706/msg00003.html [17:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fitug.de | Re: [News]EU Commissioners Urge Internet Business Caution [17:32] vZS1_2 karolyi, I'm new here as well. [17:32] zoobab Axel Horns is working for a patent company [17:33] zoobab around Munich I believe [17:33] karolyi okay it seems that the messages from irc are synced with less latency now [17:33] schestowitz__ zoobab: he reads TR and sometimes links to it [17:33] schestowitz__ karolyi: maybe caching [17:34] karolyi[m] I keep telling everybody that around ~2006 something went terribly wrong when the big tech companies emerged, and now is the time to bound back from it [17:34] karolyi[m] okay I think I'll stay on here from matrix now [17:35] *karolyi (~karolyi@ksol.io) has left #techrights [17:35] techrights-bot #Linux has been ported to run on Apples M1 Macs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660#comment-27895 [17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux Machines [17:36] vZS1_2 I think it's more an eternal struggle. Things are so bad that even the "normies" caught wind of the situation now. [17:36] zoobab Pilch vs Horns: https://www.fitug.de/debate/0101/threads.html [17:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fitug.de | Mail Thread Index [17:38] vZS1_2 Just yesterday, someone I know was complaining about Twitter mobs ganging up on her. [17:38] karolyi[m] normie see normie do, what the big tech did well is to make technology easily accessable [17:38] vZS1_2 I told said individual to leave socialcontrolmedia [17:38] karolyi[m] but now opensource stuff is catching up and normies are willing to do the extra mile [17:38] vZS1_2 "openwashing" [17:40] karolyi[m] I wouldn't put SJW appropriated words on it [17:40] karolyi[m] but you're free to do so :) [17:40] vZS1_2 We don't use the term open source here. It's misleading. [17:40] karolyi[m] let's just make sure that it won't get cancerous [17:40] techrights-bot This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [17:41] techrights-bot #Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) Will Ship with GNOME 3.38 Desktop Instead of GNOME 40 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146712 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) Will Ship with GNOME 3.38 Desktop Instead of GNOME 40 | Tux Machines [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:41] vZS1_2 Freedom-respecting software is gaining traction. [17:42] karolyi[m] I bought myself a Lenovo t15g recently, and tried ubuntu on it... never had I thought it got this bloated... got my manjaro now on it [17:42] karolyi[m] but the Intel ME thing keeps bogging me [17:43] vZS1_2 Ubuntu also has spyware telemetry. snap. [17:44] karolyi[m] snap? isn't it just a packed application with all the dependencies? [17:44] vZS1_2 It sends "metrics" to Canonical [17:44] karolyi[m] or maybe something running it changes it into a botnet? [17:44] vZS1_2 snapd [17:44] vZS1_2 It's a persistent daemon [17:44] karolyi[m] aha [17:44] karolyi[m] well, good riddance then [17:45] vZS1_2 Indeed [17:45] techrights-bot #Ventoy 1.0.33 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146713 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ventoy 1.0.33 | Tux Machines [17:46] karolyi[m] are these new articles or why do they keep popping up? kinda confusing [17:47] vZS1_2 They're a feed from http://www.tuxmachines.org/ [17:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? [17:47] techrights-bot 8 Best Free and Open Source Linux Point-of-Sale Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146714 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw [17:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Best Free and Open Source Linux Point-of-Sale Software | Tux Machines [17:47] karolyi[m] oh [17:47] vZS1_2 I believe schestowitz__ is working on removing it from this IRC channel. [17:47] vZS1_2 We spoke about this yesterday. [17:48] *karolyi (~karolyi@ksol.io) has joined #techrights [17:48] schestowitz__ [17:41] Freedom-respecting software is gaining traction. << I noticed more KDE and Debian devs no longer saying "open source" but free software, instead [17:48] vZS1_2 It throws me off as well [17:49] schestowitz__ we need to set the granularity of these right [17:49] schestowitz__ for more suitable channel [17:49] schestowitz__ let me work on that for a bit... [17:49] karolyi[m] karolyi: test [17:49] schestowitz__ test ok [17:50] karolyi[m] okay, so it works this way... never seen an irc bridge before [17:50] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: we'll need to clearly define what is relevant to this channel in terms of news [17:50] karolyi[m] btw yes, free < open source, this needs to be clarified [17:50] schestowitz__ I post politics, patents, copyright, gnu/linux.... but what fits where was always elusive [17:51] schestowitz__ karolyi[m]: irc was the first thing (almost) I used when I got connected to this "internet" thing [17:51] schestowitz__ protocols that last that long have merit to them [17:51] vZS1_2 I think Matrix has bridges for lots of things now. Slack, Discord, IRC, etc.. [17:51] schestowitz__ usenet is also still around, despite ISP/copyright cartel and Google attacking nntp [17:52] schestowitz__ Salesforce will kill Slack [17:52] schestowitz__ like Microsoft killed Mixers [17:52] karolyi[m] the golden 90's, I've been sitting though nights before my monitor and dialup connection, back in Hungary... we also had IRC communities, organized a linux club back in the day even [17:52] karolyi[m] * the golden 90's, I've been sitting trhough nights before my monitor and dialup connection, back in Hungary... we also had IRC communities, organized a linux club back in the day even [17:52] schestowitz__ they're bloated and there's no technical rationale for their existence, just marketing inertia [17:53] schestowitz__ karolyi[m]: now 'we' have 'facebook friends' [17:53] schestowitz__ "liiiiiiike" [17:53] karolyi[m] I'm into matrix very much, I must say... and it's hard to get me excited about new technology these days [17:53] karolyi[m] I hate social media with a passion [17:53] karolyi[m] let's just say that [17:53] vZS1_2 Welcome to the club [17:53] schestowitz__ it's toxic [17:53] schestowitz__ (never mind the time wasted) [17:54] zoobab I will go back to the 80s with no internet [17:54] karolyi[m] oh, you will waste time 20 different ways, but with way less harm to your mental health [17:54] zoobab and my BMX [17:55] karolyi[m] btw, do you guys know the internet privacy guy on lbry? he seems to be based [17:55] karolyi[m] talks about how to screw over information trackers and whatnot [17:56] vZS1_2 What's "lbry"? [17:56] karolyi[m] I bumped into him recently, I guess he caught wind with the recent mass fleeing from big tech [17:56] karolyi[m] oh.... a video site [17:57] karolyi[m] https://lbry.tv/@RobBraxmanTech:6/Beating-Big-Tech-at-Their-Own-Game!-(Solutions-to-Censorship,-Surveillance,-Information-Restriction):d [17:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lbry.tv | Beating Big Tech at Their Own Game! (Solutions to Censorship, Surveillance, Information Restriction) ● Jan 21 [18:00] *karolyi (~karolyi@ksol.io) has left #techrights [18:00] karolyi[m] I think the techrights site could be migrated into a django cms with some work... and time that I don't have :) [18:00] karolyi[m] but for me the RSS feed is best for now, shows the articles in a comfy way [18:01] vZS1_2 Wordpress works just fine. I don't see proportionate gains for the amount of work a migration like that would take. [18:02] schestowitz__ django cms? [18:02] schestowitz__ no way [18:02] schestowitz__ at work we support one site managed by django cms [18:02] schestowitz__ and it has been awful [18:03] schestowitz__ I used loads of CMSs [18:03] schestowitz__ django cms is not a good one [18:03] schestowitz__ not the back end, not the front end [18:03] schestowitz__ the worst I used was squiz matrix [18:03] schestowitz__ hard to maintain, hard to use [18:03] schestowitz__ the australian company behind it rotting away [18:03] schestowitz__ with django cms it's not clear where it will be in 10 years [18:04] schestowitz__ and they rely on Microsoft Guido Van Icaza [18:04] schestowitz__ who nonchalantly forces people to rewrite python2 software for python3 [18:04] schestowitz__ so python based CMSs are just as awful if not worse than PHP [18:04] schestowitz__ (Drupal, WP) [18:05] vZS1_2 The guy in that video basically says encryption is useless. I haven't heard bigger bullshit in a while. [18:06] karolyi[m] I haven't used the CMS part but I've built systems in django, but yes it might be that the CMS in itself is bad [18:06] karolyi[m] he talks about it being useless because the metadata of it being collected [18:06] vZS1_2 Don't recommend things you haven't had a lot of experience with (: [18:06] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:07] schestowitz__ [18:05] The guy in that video basically says encryption is useless. I haven't heard bigger bullshit in a while. [18:07] schestowitz__ so banking is all a scam [18:07] *karolyi (~karolyi@ksol.io) has joined #techrights [18:07] schestowitz__ even offline banking [18:07] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:07] schestowitz__ because they pass around messages like balances and stuff [18:07] schestowitz__ and encryption "is useless" [18:07] vZS1_2 That guy is a hack [18:07] schestowitz__ karolyi[m]: btw, re lbry [18:08] schestowitz__ because we started doing lots of videos I set up a lbry account [18:08] schestowitz__ it was awful in a lot of way [18:08] schestowitz__ I ran out [18:08] schestowitz__ too many warning signs, I forget the specifics by now [18:08] karolyi[m] no, you're right but you take it out of context, he talks about messages encryption being useless on centralized platforms because the agencies will just keep collecting metadata (whom you talk to, when, where) [18:08] schestowitz__ so that's falsely-advetised encryption [18:08] *karolyi (~karolyi@ksol.io) has left #techrights [18:09] schestowitz__ like "safe" between you and $SpyCompaNY [18:09] vZS1_2 That's not real encryption [18:09] vZS1_2 That's fake encryption [18:09] schestowitz__ Sometimes they call it "end to end" [18:09] schestowitz__ between you and Zuckerberg :-) [18:09] karolyi[m] that too, and that e2e doesn't matter to agencies because metadata is more valuable for them. I think the PRISM project was based on that too [18:09] vZS1_2 Bullshit [18:09] schestowitz__ https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a19490586/mark-zuckerberg-called-people-who-handed-over-their-data-dumb-f/ [18:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esquire.com | Mark Zuckerberg Called People Who Handed Over Their Data "Dumb F****" [18:09] schestowitz__ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/17/facebook-people-first-ever-mark-zuckerberg-harvard [18:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | I was one of Facebook's first users. I shouldn't have trusted Mark Zuckerberg | Facebook | The Guardian [18:10] karolyi[m] and yet, people kept flocking to FB [18:10] vZS1_2 That's because people can be stupid [18:10] schestowitz__ peer pressure [18:10] schestowitz__ network effect [18:10] schestowitz__ same in MS shithub [18:10] karolyi[m] yep [18:10] schestowitz__ even if many supposed users ae fake [18:10] schestowitz__ phantoms [18:11] schestowitz__ like in dating sites [18:11] karolyi[m] I got many fake accounts following my initial camouflaged GAB account back in the day... torba also wanted to generate traffic on his site [18:12] karolyi[m] so it goes both ways, centralized tech that gets under control of a top-down structure [18:13] vZS1_2 I can SSH into someone's server and drop them a PGP-encrypted file. Nobody knows what happened. No metadata. [18:13] vZS1_2 That guy is a fucking troll [18:13] karolyi[m] again, he talks about centralized messaging with e2e [18:13] vZS1_2 "wolf", "sheep", nonsense. Pandering to edgy teenagers maybe not people who know what they're doing. [18:14] vZS1_2 That's not real encryption. They have your keys. [18:14] karolyi[m] you take it out of context, and you call him a retard, don't go into preliminary conclusions about him, but I'm not here to shill for him, I just found him recently [18:14] vZS1_2 Because this bullshit needs to be ridiculed. [18:14] vZS1_2 Subtlety doesn't work on the internet [18:14] karolyi[m] okay then go and make responses to him [18:15] vZS1_2 No need. Just making sure the IRC logs here are bullshit-free. Or the bullshit has been duly ridiculed. [18:15] karolyi[m] I mean, as far as I know, he even goes livestreaming fairly often, you could just get into his chat and call him out there [18:15] DaemonFC[m] You can see based on the figures for which state got how many vaccine doses and what the population is in that state, that Trump doled out more doses to red states. Sure, vaccine doses in his spoils system because why not. Well, no more of that. [18:15] vZS1_2 "you call him a retard" [18:15] vZS1_2 I called him a troll. [18:15] vZS1_2 Not a retard [18:16] karolyi[m] I'm no american but I wouldn't take any of that mRNA "vaccine", which it isn't [18:17] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: what vaccine? OOOH. the clinical trials. [18:17] schestowitz__ Maybe it'll work out for them. [18:17] schestowitz__ we'll know in a few years if not sooner [18:17] schestowitz__ efficacy know first [18:17] karolyi[m] it's not even a vaccine in the classical sense. the only similarity is, it gets injected to the target's body [18:17] schestowitz__ when we have some statistical data, which the state will hide if it's still pushing this [18:18] karolyi[m] in my eyes, whoever is forcing these "vaccines" is forcing a population wide genocide [18:18] schestowitz__ we don't know yet [18:18] vZS1_2 We don't get trial results until the middle of the year. [18:18] schestowitz__ but FDA expedited it [18:18] karolyi[m] let me pull up something... just a sec [18:18] schestowitz__ with Trump's help [18:18] vZS1_2 We'll see which vaccines work by then [18:18] vZS1_2 Right now we have conjecture and nothing else [18:18] schestowitz__ markrting by BBC [18:19] schestowitz__ bribed by the vaccine stakeholers [18:19] schestowitz__ "grandpa took X, did not die, X must be good, sign up for X" [18:19] karolyi[m] it's somewhat offtopic re tech, but since we're talking about it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/169bDubnhyopohQmg8-WRmvEjYjpSwEPs/view [18:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drive.google.com | Dr Lee Merrit Interview.mp4 - Google Drive [18:19] schestowitz__ you don't need to go far back for cautionary tales https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/asia/faulty-vaccine-china-intl/index.html [18:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Outrage in China over thousands of faulty vaccines for children - CNN [18:19] schestowitz__ of course CNN is just "antivaxxer" [18:19] karolyi[m] and then there's another one: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Dxjp6nkwhWn8/ [18:20] schestowitz__ https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/16/asia/china-vaccine-scandal-doses-intl/index.html [18:20] vZS1_2 Interviews are not official trial reports [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bitchute.com | Professor Dolores Cahill: Why People Will Start DYING A Few Months After The First mRNA Vaccination [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Number of faulty children's vaccines in China surges to over 900,000 - CNN [18:20] schestowitz__ when it comes to china, cnn is "antivaxxer" [18:20] schestowitz__ those are not American(R) products [18:20] karolyi[m] nobody claimed that. [18:20] schestowitz__ Russia's Sputnik-V is also being ridiculed [18:20] schestowitz__ though I saw no evidence it's any worse than ViagraCompany/Moderna and Ox/AZ [18:21] karolyi[m] still, worth watching these videos, pretty scaryt [18:21] karolyi[m] * still, worth watching these videos, pretty scary [18:21] DaemonFC[m] It seems to me that Russia's vaccine would be at least comparable to the Oxford one. [18:21] vZS1_2 Better to not waste time and wait for the official trial reports. All of which are public. [18:21] DaemonFC[m] But the comedians all started in on it comparing it to the Russian athlete dosing scandal and ricin umbrellas. [18:21] schestowitz__ very big trial [18:21] schestowitz__ hundreds of millions [18:22] karolyi[m] well then you might wait for 2 years until mass deaths start to happen ... [18:22] schestowitz__ https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/18/health/covid-vaccine-pfizer-deaths-norway-intl/index.html [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Norway reviewing Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine deaths of frail and elderly patients - CNN [18:22] schestowitz__ don't panic [18:22] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, they did not treat the ones from the US and UK like this, even though they're probably equally good or bad. We just don't know yet. [18:22] schestowitz__ just give it to children [18:22] schestowitz__ who don't face much risk from it anyway [18:22] DaemonFC[m] So speculating that the Russian vaccine is worse is slanted journalism at the least. [18:22] schestowitz__ https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n167 [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Covid-19: Doctors in Norway told to assess severely frail patients for vaccination | The BMJ [18:22] vZS1_2 That's how science works. Right now you have bullshit and conjecture. [18:22] DaemonFC[m] Outright shilling at worst. [18:22] schestowitz__ norwars... f'ing third world country [18:22] schestowitz__ "antivaxxers" [18:23] karolyi[m] well, sure you need a "vaccine" against something that's less deadly than the flu ... [18:24] DaemonFC[m] There's no reason to be confident in any COVID vaccine being produced or given at this time. It's just potentially less dangerous to people who are in extreme danger from the virus itself, relatively speaking. [18:24] DaemonFC[m] It gets in nursing homes and 35% of them die. Why not start there? [18:24] vZS1_2 >karolyi[m] well, sure you need a "vaccine" against something that's less deadly than the [18:24] vZS1_2 flu... [18:24] vZS1_2 Hold up for a fucking second [18:24] vZS1_2 Are you trying to say the pandemic is fake? [18:24] karolyi[m] uh oh [18:24] DaemonFC[m] It's not fake, it's just not extremely dangerous to people who are not old. [18:25] DaemonFC[m] Compared to other viral diseases. [18:25] DaemonFC[m] It's hardly pleasant though, so I'm still using sensible precautions to avoid it. [18:25] vZS1_2 First you go on about some hack that doesn't know how security works now you go on about "Covid is less deadly than the flu" [18:25] vZS1_2 What exactly is your agenda here? [18:25] DaemonFC[m] Obeying the law, masks, handwashing. Nobody gets killed because of handwashing. Why not? [18:26] DaemonFC[m] But the vaccines that are being promoted. I don't think lots of people will fall over dead in waves from them. [18:26] karolyi[m] well even if it's not less deadly, we're hardly at spanish flu levels, but hey, let's kill the entire economy, and drive people into suicide with the lockdowns and losing their income I guess [18:27] schestowitz__ flu is dangerous [18:27] DaemonFC[m] But that's not to say that there aren't or won't be reactions that are just not worth it for many people. [18:27] schestowitz__ but we have flu vaccines [18:27] schestowitz__ and they are effective [18:27] schestowitz__ for covid we just have a bunch of large-scale trials [18:27] schestowitz__ and Norway reports the worst case scenaria results [18:27] schestowitz__ namely that the highest risk group is intolerant [18:27] DaemonFC[m] This is stuff that could be in the labs for 10 years and would be if it wasn't a global emergency. [18:27] karolyi[m] hey, turn the paranoia down a bit [18:28] vZS1_2 It's entirely justified. You just made light of a global pandemic [18:28] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: he supports s/w freedom [18:28] schestowitz__ vaccines aren't our main topic here [18:28] schestowitz__ flu kills many old people, but would be far worse in winter if we did not administer flu vaccines [18:28] DaemonFC[m] If COVID wasn't sweeping over the world population killing millions of people, there wouldn't be a rushed vaccine that skipped the normal development and review process. [18:28] vZS1_2 Because we have plenty of corporate trolls in this channel [18:28] schestowitz__ flu had been around for a very long time [18:28] vZS1_2 Trying to defame TR [18:28] DaemonFC[m] Not even the flu vaccines were rushed like this. [18:29] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: this one is not it [18:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.50 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.75 [18:29] DaemonFC[m] And flu has been a serious problem for hundreds of years. [18:29] schestowitz__ it's not a troll [18:29] karolyi[m] data is pretty solid about taking vitamin D and being healthy, and that there's a vast difference between dying from and with it [18:29] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: did not defame TR, spoke highly of it (scroll up) [18:29] karolyi[m] wot? [18:29] vZS1_2 You can make a good comment and then make a bad one. [18:29] vZS1_2 People will highlight the bad one [18:29] karolyi[m] defaming what? :D dude like I said, turn the paranoia down a bit [18:29] DaemonFC[m] Well, to be counted as a COVID death it has to be a serious contributing factor. [18:29] vZS1_2 This is how they got RMS, schestowitz__ [18:30] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: this one is not discrediting us [18:30] DaemonFC[m] There are people with heart problems who would have lived 15 more years, but they got COVID, it damaged their heart more, and now they're dead. [18:30] schestowitz__ you got upset for the comparison to flu [18:30] karolyi[m] schestowitz__: you've been "gotten"? by whom? [18:30] schestowitz__ which I don't agree with, either [18:30] schestowitz__ flu is harder to passs [18:30] schestowitz__ and we have vaccines and even treatments for it [18:30] schestowitz__ bbiab [18:31] vZS1_2 I'm not upset I'm just making sure we are clear that nobody here is denying that there's a pandemic [18:31] DaemonFC[m] Dick Cheney's heart was so far gone 15 years ago he'd just have been dead then had he been one of us normal folks with no or crappy health insurance. [18:31] DaemonFC[m] If he gets COVID, he's probably fucked though. [18:31] vZS1_2 Anyway, this is off topic. [18:31] techrights-bot #KDE Plasma 5.21 Desktop Enters Beta, Heres #HowTo Test It Right Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146715 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [18:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.21 Desktop Enters Beta, Heres How to Test It Right Now | Tux Machines [18:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:32] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:32] karolyi[m] a worldwide spread of a new corona strain, that is just that, a new strain. immunity will be had for it, and while it mutates, it also becomes less and less severe [18:33] DaemonFC[m] I agree that this is going to be a problem that would naturally be less severe after an initial horrible 2-3 years, but damn it's going to be bad. [18:33] techrights-bot 13 Reasons Why Linux Is Better Than #Windows http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146717 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 13 Reasons Why Linux Is Better Than Windows | Tux Machines [18:33] DaemonFC[m] Deaths will let up quite a lot after this is over, for several years, because it pushed so many people to an early death. [18:33] karolyi[m] I've been reading articles about this shit since it started, to be on the clear, and initially I sided with the lockdowns until data came in after 2 or 3 weeks that started to show that it's way less deadly as it's been forecasted (the quality of those "forecasts" leaves a lot to be desired as well) [18:34] DaemonFC[m] The initial forecasts were too low by orders of magnitude. [18:34] DaemonFC[m] Either people didn't want to believe it would be very bad or they were carrying water for Trump's re-election campaign. [18:35] DaemonFC[m] Trump kept citing a model that showed American deaths would hit a ceiling at 50,000 or so in the entire country and then stop there. [18:35] CrystalMath same here karolyi[m] [18:35] karolyi[m] there was that UK "data scientist" that predicted about 10x deaths from it [18:35] DaemonFC[m] Instead, we've almost lost the entire population of Wyoming already with no end in sight. [18:35] CrystalMath at first i thought this was SARS [18:35] CrystalMath then i realized it's more like a cold to most people [18:36] techrights-bot #MuseScore Created New Font in Memory of Original SCORE Program Creator http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146718 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MuseScore Created New Font in Memory of Original SCORE Program Creator | Tux Machines [18:36] CrystalMath i'm also very hopeful about the new strain [18:36] CrystalMath i think it could be less deadly [18:36] vZS1_2 We already have had instances of vaccines being developed quickly. For example: swine flu. [18:36] DaemonFC[m] It's tricky. Many people don't realize they have it. It gets serious in about 15% of cases, and about 2-3% of cases end up dying. [18:36] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146719 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [18:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:36] vZS1_2 What we are waiting for are the results of the Covid vaccine trials. [18:36] DaemonFC[m] But when you're dealing with a country of about 340 million people, 2-3% is a lot of people. [18:37] CrystalMath it is possible that lockdowns create softer strains [18:37] CrystalMath especially when done by area [18:37] CrystalMath like in the UK [18:37] karolyi[m] about the fatality rate: https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/ [18:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-swprs.org | Studies on Covid-19 Lethality Swiss Policy Research [18:38] techrights-bot This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [18:38] DaemonFC[m] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/business/economy/unemployment-insurance.html [18:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | How Our Unemployment Benefits System Failed - The New York Times [18:38] karolyi[m] but to be honest, we're living in a post factual world, facts don't matter anymore [18:38] techrights-bot #KDE Plasma 5.21 BETA Released. Download and Test Now. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146720 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.21 BETA Released. Download and Test Now. | Tux Machines [18:38] DaemonFC[m] In 1971, if you lost your job, there was only a 9% chance you were still unemployed 27 weeks later. Now that's a 30% chance. [18:39] karolyi[m] there was that nice US unemployment rate [18:39] DaemonFC[m] But, on average, states only allow 23 weeks of unemployment benefits now, vs. 25 then. [18:39] karolyi[m] can't pull it up right now... but the lockdowns did their best, also the biggest wealth redistribution of the world.... [18:39] CrystalMath from the poor to the rich [18:39] CrystalMath dooH niboR as RMS says it [18:39] DaemonFC[m] The federal "emergency" unemployment stuff is basically an admission that states trying to fund it as an insurance program can't manage that with the types of recessions we have today. [18:40] karolyi[m] in my opinion, it's just a technocratic overtaking of society at this point, and the virus is just a means for it... if people will let it [18:42] karolyi[m] also the fact that the US printed 1/4 of its money last year [18:42] karolyi[m] one just has to connect the dots [18:42] CrystalMath karolyi[m]: do you have information on the chinese vaccine,the Sinopharm? [18:42] CrystalMath Sinopharm BB-something [18:43] vZS1_2 All I see is a bunch of claims and no citations. [18:43] karolyi[m] well, you do you [18:43] CrystalMath i have been recommending that one [18:43] CrystalMath BBIBP-CorV [18:43] karolyi[m] haven't heard anything about it, I've been only focusing on that mRNA vaccine and the disastrous claims about it [18:43] CrystalMath it has an 80% efficiency rate and is NOT based on mRNA altering [18:43] karolyi[m] I sure won't take anything, other than vitamines [18:44] CrystalMath karolyi[m]: i [18:44] CrystalMath just wonder [18:44] karolyi[m] problem is, that will make me a second class citizen [18:44] karolyi[m] but I guess I'll have to roll with it [18:44] CrystalMath if i get pressured to take one (we have a guaranteed choice, and Sinopharm is a choice) [18:44] CrystalMath i certainly would not take the Pfizer, not even if they put a gun to my head [18:45] CrystalMath the Sputnik-V... maybe, but it would be a biological experiment to do so [18:45] vZS1_2 >karolyi[m] well, you do you [18:45] CrystalMath i think BBIBP-CorV might be safe and effective though [18:45] vZS1_2 Thanks for making clear your agenda. To the block list you go. [18:45] karolyi[m] to be honest, I'm healthy and in the recent years when I've been taking vitamines and supplements on the daily (and also lost a bunch of weight), I'm super healthy. the flu passes through me in 2 or 3 days, that took 2 or 3 weeks before [18:45] CrystalMath karolyi[m]: i mean because of my job [18:46] CrystalMath a job that i have to leave in 2 years anyway, though... so... [18:46] CrystalMath maybe it's not worth taking a potentially dangerous vaccine for [18:46] karolyi[m] what's your job? [18:46] CrystalMath teaching-related [18:46] karolyi[m] ah, yes... then you have to meet people [18:46] CrystalMath but it's on a limited contract [18:47] CrystalMath it cannot be further renewed, so, i have 2 years left [18:47] CrystalMath after that i intend to become a system administrator [18:47] karolyi[m] I work from home for the most time as an IT guy, and I already live as a hermit so it didn't really affect me, but I was trying to stand up for other people, and in return I got called names [18:48] CrystalMath i totally agree with you [18:48] CrystalMath everything you said sounds quite right [18:48] karolyi[m] honestly, it's just my 2 cents but I wouldn't even give a chance in compromising my health with vaccines [18:48] CrystalMath but you seem more organized and pull information up faster than i do [18:49] karolyi[m] not really true... I binge on this stuff (the virus and the technocratic agenda) and I try to seek out and associate with freedom minded people [18:50] karolyi[m] in my opinion it's the only way [18:50] DaemonFC[m] Texas threatened a bunch of lawsuits, but lawsuits against a president's agenda usually don't work. [18:50] DaemonFC[m] Even when it's poorly conceived tripe that was written without consulting the Office of Legal Counsel, like Trump's. [18:51] DaemonFC[m] Remember he just kept editing the so-called Muslim ban until it complied with the court order. [18:51] DaemonFC[m] Made no sense as policy, but neither did the first two versions. It exempted very dangerous regions, where Trump had businesses. [18:51] DaemonFC[m] And the Saudis, which were the perpetrators of 9/11. [18:51] DaemonFC[m] And Chechnya, where the Tsarnaev brothers came from. [18:52] karolyi[m] DaemonFC: to be honest, I think trump and biden are just two puppets... people have to learn to organize with each other, at this point in my opinion the government is just a roadblock to that [18:53] schestowitz__ 'lesser puppet" [18:53] schestowitz__ like "lesser evilism" [18:53] schestowitz__ maybe we can play with words a bit [18:53] karolyi[m] lesser puppet as in who? [18:53] schestowitz__ "lesser NATO" [18:53] schestowitz__ "lesser Wall Street" [18:53] karolyi[m] politics is just bread and circus for the masses, imo [18:54] DaemonFC[m] If you had oil or a Trump building/resort, you weren't on the travel ban. And neither were people from very dangerous parts of Russia where the Russian government has little control. [18:54] DaemonFC[m] So it was effectively swiss cheese. Countries that never attacked us went on the list because it threw red meat at the racist idiots. [18:54] schestowitz__ monarchy is worse than politics [18:54] schestowitz__ politics is the "lesser evil" [18:55] schestowitz__ also wrt anarchism [18:55] DaemonFC[m] Countries that did attack us and posed an ongoing threat got exemptions. [18:55] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [18:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:56] DaemonFC[m] Trump was an echo of several failed presidents all rolled into one. [18:56] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [18:56] karolyi[m] schestowitz__: that guy who blocked me told you've "gotten" by someone? what happened? [18:57] DaemonFC[m] The idea of a Washington outsider plays well, but they never get a lot done with Congress. [18:57] DaemonFC[m] Doesn't help when you're hurling insults and threats at both parties though. :) [18:58] techrights-bot FRAND is no friend of anyone but the lawyers who sponsor this site https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q6rx27h2wgdc/anti-anti-suit-injunctions-create-risky-frand-playing-fields see http://techrights.org/2020/07/10/frand-sep-scam/ [18:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Anti-anti-suit injunctions create risky FRAND playing fields | Managing Intellectual Property [18:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European FRAND (Related to SEP) Proponent and Famed Programmer Comes to Realise That Its Actually a Scam | Techrights [18:58] DaemonFC[m] There's precisely zero chance that if things take a little while in the House for some reason that Biden will get on Twitter and start calling Pelosi weak and stupid. [18:58] DaemonFC[m] Trump went there with Paul Ryan, especially after Trumpdon'tcare went down in flames under a Republican majority. [18:59] CrystalMath but someone must challenge that crappy two-party system [18:59] DaemonFC[m] All of the Trumpdon'tcare-lite executive actions are going to go away for sure. [18:59] MinceR CrystalMath: so who does? [18:59] DaemonFC[m] And the House and Senate will probably finally pass some Fix Obamacare amendments that are years overdue. ● Jan 21 [19:00] DaemonFC[m] So I believe that things are only looking up as far as access to health care from where we are right now. [19:00] techrights-bot "There are FAR too many litigators that hold anti-patent views and the use of the label of patent attorney for mere litigators gives these folk too much cache for their anti-patent views." NOPE! Those are people who are CONSCIOUS. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/doug-emhoff-attorney.html [19:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Doug Emhoff, IP Attorney | Patently-O [19:00] DaemonFC[m] Trump spent years undermining the law with religious exemptions, junk insurance....Things the law was meant to ban. [19:01] CrystalMath well i don't see what's bad about religious exemptions [19:01] CrystalMath after all, most things religions asked to be exempted from should not exist at all [19:01] DaemonFC[m] Birth control? [19:01] techrights-bot The New Humanitarian | South #Sudan s precarious peace agreement https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2021/01/21/south-sudan-peace-deal-violence-famine #thenewhumanitarian [19:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | South Sudans precarious peace agreement [19:01] DaemonFC[m] They should get to decide if their employees get birth control? [19:01] CrystalMath DaemonFC[m]: what?? [19:02] DaemonFC[m] Trump made that such a problem that there's a company that's worked around it already. [19:02] MinceR 21 200121 < CrystalMath> after all, most things religions asked to be exempted from should not exist at all [19:02] MinceR in that case, whatever they're supposed to be exempted from shouldn't exist [19:02] DaemonFC[m] They're advertising $15 a month birth control and video visits with the doctor on an app if you're uninsured, or free with insurance. [19:02] MinceR they shouldn't get special rights because they're members of a cult [19:02] CrystalMath MinceR: everybody should have those rights, like the right to refuse treatment for example [19:03] CrystalMath if you believe prayer is going to heal you instead of a hospital, it's your choice [19:03] MinceR indeed [19:03] CrystalMath ofc, what *I* care about, is the right to die of a disaease if you want to [19:03] CrystalMath that's what i want [19:03] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: The Green family (Hobby Lobby) is very religious. Abortion is murder, but theft and bribery are not wrong at all. Read the bible, atheist scum! [19:03] techrights-bot There's no such thing as "AYE PEE" and the things they allude to are not rights. This also contains some #UPC propaganda, as one might expect from #litigation profiteers. https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/analysis/what-eu-uk-trade-agreement-ip-rights [19:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pinsentmasons.com | What the EU-UK trade agreement means for IP rights [19:03] CrystalMath DaemonFC[m]: okay so i didn't understand the extent this goes to [19:04] CrystalMath you're saying they fire people for using birth control? [19:04] MinceR DaemonFC[m]: neither is slavery or the rape of unmarried females [19:04] DaemonFC[m] They were fighting to get out of having to cover birth control in private insurance policies their employees were getting, even though birth control coverage was required by law. [19:05] DaemonFC[m] Some states reversed Trump by requiring it with state laws. [19:05] DaemonFC[m] Illinois did. [19:05] CrystalMath ah [19:05] schestowitz__ [18:56] schestowitz__: that guy who blocked me told you've "gotten" by someone? what happened? [19:05] CrystalMath wow, guess under Trump religious people had more power than i thoughut [19:05] CrystalMath *thought [19:05] DaemonFC[m] They "believe" that a birth control pill = abortion. [19:06] DaemonFC[m] It's abortion because they believe, you know. That's how facts work. [19:06] schestowitz__ many people blocked, but only on a personal basis, we never ban or censor [19:06] schestowitz__ if birth control pill is like abortion than spilling "seeds" outside the "thing" is also abortion [19:07] schestowitz__ and so is abstinence [19:07] karolyi[m] no, you misunderstood, I'm fine with him blocking me, I don't care :) what I wanted to ask is that he talked about you that you've been "gotten" by someone, as in something similar happened to you than with RMS? [19:07] schestowitz__ not sure [19:07] schestowitz__ why is abortion the topic here? [19:07] schestowitz__ even more offtopic than covid [19:08] karolyi[m] no idea, there was a politics tirade, that went into it, I stopped reading [19:08] schestowitz__ covid is biology/science, abortion debates are usually boiling down to religious nonsense [19:08] karolyi[m] sorry for talking about covid btw [19:08] schestowitz__ better to talk about tech imho, as there are many things that might be interesting but not constructive to future articles we publish [19:09] schestowitz__ we spoke about privacy and ipfs and browsers earlier [19:11] karolyi[m] there is an article I made guys pin in telegram groups (bridged to matrix), I find it pretty apt: https://pocketnow.com/stop-being-naive-when-it-comes-to-things-like-whatsapp-telegram-signal-etc [19:11] karolyi[m] maybe you want to have a read through [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stop being naive when it comes to things like WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc. | Pocketnow [19:11] DaemonFC[m] Trump's Most Favored Nation Medicare rule was enjoined by a federal judge, who noted that most of the savings that it claimed were on page 184 of the rule, and would be due to people who lost access to their medicine because of the rule. [19:11] techrights-bot How to pollute and destroy #universities with their (originally) scientific/scholarly/research agenda, turning them into greenhouses for #patenttrolls , #robberbarons , and #plutocracy https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q6wnpdc4v9rg/in-house-new-university-patent-pool-will-ease-licensing-efforts [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | In-house: new university patent pool will ease licensing efforts | Managing Intellectual Property [19:11] DaemonFC[m] https://www.medpagetoday.com/practicemanagement/reimbursement/90588 [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.medpagetoday.com | Medicare's 'Most Favored Nation' Drug-Pricing Rule in Limbo | MedPage Today [19:12] techrights-bot Corrupt #epo and #patents on plugs https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/munich-court-challenges-german-practice-in-pi-proceedings/ "However, the Dsseldorf patent judges continue to issue PIs in exceptional cases." [19:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Munich court challenges German practice in PI proceedings - JUVE Patent [19:16] techrights-bot #BSDNow 386: Aye, 386! https://www.bsdnow.tv/386 #unix #bsd [19:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 386: Aye, 386! [19:16] karolyi[m] well, FreeBSD is my jam, although I know it's not completely opensource [19:17] karolyi[m] but in my practice, where linux servers died, BSDs went strong [19:18] techrights-bot The @Brave First Browser to Include #IPFS Protocol http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146689#comment-27900 [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brave Browser Adds Native Support for Decentralized IPFS Protocol | Tux Machines [19:21] schestowitz__ karolyi[m]: freebsd uses ms shitehub [19:21] schestowitz__ and there are several others issues, so if I went to a bsd for some purpose, probably openbsd [19:21] schestowitz__ openbsd are more into 'free'(dom) [19:21] schestowitz__ than freebsd [19:21] schestowitz__ they need to swap names [19:22] schestowitz__ freebsd is full of people who are into 'open source'... like working for apple one day, then the 'open' stuff the other day [19:22] karolyi[m] btw recently I was learning Arduino for a device that runs on it, interesting concept [19:22] karolyi[m] and then I looked into PLC as an alternative, and realized that Arduino came to be because it's not proprietary [19:22] schestowitz__ and now freebsd wants to remove all gpl-licensed stuff [19:22] schestowitz__ yeah, cause to hell with freedom [19:22] schestowitz__ they want licences that make 'free' stuff to add to proprietary OSes [19:23] schestowitz__ Arduino is mostly OK [19:23] schestowitz__ they had some management crisis, iirc, then removed the culprit [19:24] schestowitz__ some people judge success by nothing but money and so they compromise and derail projects for short-term and illusionary gains [19:24] schestowitz__ seems like elasticsearch is the latest [19:25] karolyi[m] total newcomer to Arduino, but I'll use it to automate the shit outta my house [19:25] karolyi[m] what's FreeBSD's issue with GPL, that the source can't be closed? [19:26] karolyi[m] also for my FreeBSD box, I use a couple proprietary stuff on it in jails, like the teamviewer server we use with people to play games [19:26] karolyi[m] I mean, I kinda like the approach of theirs that they don't go full force wanting to tell others to contribute, but they kinda try to convince them that opensource is better [19:27] karolyi[m] FreeBSD, that is [19:28] karolyi[m] for example I saw in a video that they convinced people from Sony to contribute since Sony engineers started to ask lots of questions about FreeBSD, and then they asked them "can we talk about you sharing your contributions?" [19:28] karolyi[m] sorry, teamspeak server, not teamviewer... [19:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.40 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.08 [19:32] karolyi[m] I mean, if FreeBSD becomes unbearable, I'll change to some bearable version of it [19:33] techrights-bot Big portion here is about #gnu #gimp https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/best-free-drawing-software/ [19:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | The Best Free Drawing Software | Digital Trends [19:35] techrights-bot "SDRs provide me with another of my favourite things about radio, namely that using GNU Radio I now have a general purpose digital signal processing playground." https://hackaday.com/2021/01/21/a-few-of-my-favorite-things-amateur-radio/ [19:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Few Of My Favorite Things: Amateur Radio | Hackaday [19:35] Ariadne schestowitz fairly close to having a viable AP server that anyone can manage [19:36] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [19:38] techrights-bot #RaspberryPi goes MCU with open-spec Pico http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27901 #gnu #linux #bsd [19:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux Machines [19:41] techrights-bot Meeks: " #TDF Advisory Board call. Recorded a collaboration dev-room talk for FOSDEM - fun." http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-01-20.html [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-01-20.html ) [19:42] techrights-bot "Firstly, we have the GNU Make book. With GNU being the most widely used build automation tool, its challenging nature and terse language can be enough to put anyone to task" https://www.elektormagazine.com/news/no-kidding-elektor-adds-no-starch-books-to-product-line [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.elektormagazine.com | No kidding! Elektor adds No-Starch books to product line | Elektor Magazine [19:42] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:49] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726155.png [19:52] techrights-bot This is FUD and not about "Linux"; it's about unpatched programs that have nothing to do with #Linux , but they ascribe guilt by association (human error/negligence https://www.govinfosecurity.com/freakout-botnet-targets-unpatched-linux-systems-a-15814 [19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govinfosecurity.com | 'FreakOut' Botnet Targets Unpatched Linux Systems [19:53] *inky (inky@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/norayr) has joined #techrights [19:54] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [19:55] techrights-bot Oh. My. Lord. #mozilla now resorting to mindless #greenwashing ... they have NO CLUE how to salvage themselves https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/21/mozillas-climate-commitments/ [19:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Mozillas Climate Commitments - The Mozilla Blog [19:55] karolyi[m] greenwashing :D [19:56] techrights-bot #Mozilla Addons Blog: Promoted Add-ons Pilot Wrap-up https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/01/21/promoted-add-ons-pilot-wrap-up/ [19:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Promoted Add-ons Pilot Wrap-up | Mozilla Add-ons Blog [19:56] *GNUmoon has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:56] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [19:57] schestowitz__ [19:35] schestowitz fairly close to having a viable AP server that anyone can manage [19:57] schestowitz__ :-D [19:57] schestowitz__ I was thinking about your project an hour ago [19:57] schestowitz__ thinking what to do about my links in sites to pleroma.site [19:57] schestowitz__ and whether you might take back that domain [19:57] schestowitz__ seeing href is making false promises to me for 2 months [19:58] schestowitz__ maybe that domain can be used with other software [19:59] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/WpixMra.jpg ● Jan 21 [20:00] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:01] Narrator re [20:02] techrights-bot Meet Pico: Raspberry Pis First Microcontroller Device http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27903 #raspi #gnu #linux [20:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux Machines [20:04] *DVulgaris (~quassel@185.108.81.14) has joined #techrights [20:05] techrights-bot "Doing everything in a terminal window isn't just about speed or feeling empowered." #gnu #linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcaRTx7DsV0 [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The REAL Reason Linux Users Love The Command Line - YouTube [20:07] techrights-bot Welcome #RaspberryPi to the world of microcontrollers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27905 #raspi #gnu #linux [20:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux Machines [20:11] techrights-bot "As a member of Mozillas fuzzing team, our job is not only to find bugs, but to do what we can to help get those bugs fixed as quickly as possible." https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/01/analyzing-bugzilla-testcases-with-bugmon/ [20:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Analyzing Bugzilla Testcases with Bugmon - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog [20:13] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [20:17] *inky (~inky@141.136.76.13) has joined #techrights [20:17] techrights-bot What is Your Choice After Switching from #WhatsApp ? https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2021/01/what-is-your-choice-after-switching-from-whatsapp.html [20:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | What is Your Choice After Switching from WhatsApp? [20:18] techrights-bot Audiocasts/Shows: CLI, #BSDNow , #CoderRadio and TLLTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146721 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: CLI, BSD Now, Coder Radio and TLLTS | Tux Machines [20:21] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [20:22] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [20:27] techrights-bot #Zora P1 #Amlogic A311D Development Board targets Android and #GNU #Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146444#comment-27908 [20:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Another New Linux Development Board and Open Hardware | Tux Machines [20:27] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [20:28] techrights-bot Kathy Rain: Director's Cut announced and will support Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/kathy-rain-directors-cut-announced-and-will-support-linux #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming [20:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kathy Rain: Director's Cut announced and will support Linux | GamingOnLinux [20:29] karolyi[m] is it opensource hw? [20:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.78 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.55 [20:29] DaemonFC[m] They were bragging about how great the Mac M1 is on their blog the other day. [20:30] schestowitz__ yes awful [20:30] schestowitz__ they aim for mac cultists like themselves [20:30] karolyi[m] when the left hand doesn't know what the right does, a typical case of huge corp [20:30] schestowitz__ I saw worse [20:30] schestowitz__ Apple dot NOT preinstall Firefox [20:30] schestowitz__ GNU/LINUX distros DO [20:30] techrights-bot "Developed by Yokereba Games, this is a "first-class" #GNU #Linux game developed by a long time Linux user who mentioned how they "consider it a Linux-first game since most of my testing was done on my main machine"." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/jumpala-is-an-intense-score-fighting-highly-competitive-action-platformer-out-now [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jumpala is an intense score-fighting highly competitive action-platformer out now | GamingOnLinux [20:31] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [20:35] techrights-bot Games: Godot Engine, Space Otter Charlie, Kathy Rain: Directors Cut, Stadia and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146722 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #games #gaming [20:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Godot Engine, Space Otter Charlie, Kathy Rain: Director's Cut, Stadia and More | Tux Machines [20:39] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [20:39] DaemonFC[m] Trump's fake history commission is dissolved. [20:39] DaemonFC[m] Their final report sounded like one of my dad's rants about black people on a long car ride circa 1995. [20:42] techrights-bot Mozilla: Bugs, Fuzzing, Promoted Add-ons Pilot Wrap-up, Greenwashing, and Tor Browser 10.5a7 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146723 #mozilla #firefox #www [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Bugs, Fuzzing, Promoted Add-ons Pilot Wrap-up, Greenwashing, and Tor Browser 10.5a7 | Tux Machines [20:44] techrights-bot #microsoft booster: How a #GNU #Linux migration led to the creation of #Amazon Web Services https://www.networkworld.com/article/3604370/how-a-linux-migration-led-to-the-creation-of-amazon-web-services.html [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | How a Linux migration led to the creation of Amazon Web Services | Network World [20:45] *psydroid wonders how long it will take for Mozilla Corp to declare financial bankruptcy and for how long the Mozilla Foundation will continue after that [20:45] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [20:47] techrights-bot #HowTo Plot Unix Directory Structure Using #Python Graphviz https://www.nbshare.io/notebook/745848606/How-To-Plot-Unix-Directory-Structure-Using-Python-Graphviz/ #nbshare #gnu #linux #unix [20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbshare.io | How To Plot Unix Directory Structure Using Python Graphviz [20:49] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146724 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:50] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [20:54] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: it's history! [20:55] DaemonFC[m] > * <@psydroid:matrix.org> wonders how long it will take for Mozilla Corp to declare financial bankruptcy and for how long the Mozilla Foundation will continue after that [20:55] DaemonFC[m] Normally you spend down enough assets that the creditors can't get anything and then file bankruptcy. [20:56] DaemonFC[m] They don't seem to be in serious debt. They mostly seem to be dealing with dwindling revenues. [20:56] DaemonFC[m] Right now they deal with it by making layoffs that will make Firefox impossible to maintain in the future and letting leases expire and selling their headquarters. [20:58] DaemonFC[m] Once mass layoffs start at a company, it's the beginning of the end. CEOs will spin it with word like "efficiency" and "readjustment to meet the needs of our company" or "a pivot", but when they start talking like that, it's over. [20:59] techrights-bot #Adobe #Illustrator Alternatives for Linux and More Alternatives http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146725 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Adobe Illustrator Alternatives for Linux and More Alternatives | Tux Machines [20:59] DaemonFC[m] There's no actual press releases of Microsoft hiring thousands of people in any of their divisions., just "efficiency", "pivoting", and "readjustment to meet the needs of the company". [20:59] DaemonFC[m] And random numbers that are individually small enough to not grab headlines about the number of layoffs. ● Jan 21 [21:00] DaemonFC[m] If you fire 10,000-15,000 people all at once it's clear your company is in trouble and has been seriously mismanaged. [21:00] DaemonFC[m] 500-600 at a time ought to do it. That's efficent. [21:01] DaemonFC[m] Mozilla has been doing things this way. They won't just fire 3,500 people. They did it in waves of hundreds. Maybe 1,000. [21:01] DaemonFC[m] Now half their total employees have been fired without them grabbing headlines that said that happened in one day. [21:05] techrights-bot #linuxjournal has expired cert, exposing a #surveillance script going on in the background... [21:09] techrights-bot Linux 5.11 Is Now Looking Great For #AMD Zen 2 / Zen 3 Performance - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-linux511-fixed&num=1 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [21:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.11 Is Now Looking Great For AMD Zen 2 / Zen 3 Performance - Phoronix [21:11] techrights-bot #Fedora Loves #Python 2020 report - Fedora Community Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-loves-python-2020-report/ #communityfedoraproject #ibm #RedHat [21:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Loves Python 2020 report Fedora Community Blog [21:12] techrights-bot #scmagazine trolling #linux again. This is FUD and not about "Linux"; it's about unpatched programs that have nothing to do with Linux, but they ascribe guilt by association (human error/negligence) https://www.scmagazine.com/home/security-news/malware/bot-freakout-leverages-three-critical-vulnerabilities-to-attack-linux-systems/ [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Bot FreakOut leverages three critical vulnerabilities to attack Linux systems | SC Media [21:13] techrights-bot "PDF viewers built into leading web browsers and applications for macOS and Linux were only susceptible to comparatively trivial attacks such as denial of service (DoS)." https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/pwnable-document-format-windows-pdf-viewers-outperformed-by-browser-macos-linux-counterparts [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Pwnable Document Format: Windows PDF viewers outperformed by browser, macOS, Linux counterparts | The Daily Swig [21:16] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/strings [21:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Strings [21:20] techrights-bot Regarding the closure of rt.cpan. http://blogs.perl.org/users/martin_mcgrath/2021/01/regarding-the-closure-of-rtcpan.html #programming #cpan #perl [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Regarding the closure of rt.cpan. | Martin McGrath [blogs.perl.org] [21:23] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [21:23] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [21:24] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [21:27] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/vwrH3iS.jpeg [21:27] techrights-bot What is your favorite Linux #scripting or #programming language? | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/favorite-linux-language #RedHat #IBM [21:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | What is your favorite Linux scripting or programming language? | Enable Sysadmin [21:28] techrights-bot People of WordPress: Thelma Mutete https://wordpress.org/news/2021/01/people-of-wordpress-thelma-mutete/ #wordpress #cms #gpl #sharing #freesw [21:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News People of WordPress: Thelma Mutete WordPress.org [21:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.88 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.18 [21:29] psydroid C# on the .NET framework you are promoting these days, of course [21:30] MinceR :> [21:34] vZS1 No wonder they resorted to giving away their distro for free [21:34] MinceR still more expensive than its worth [21:35] vZS1 Yeah. Waste of time trying to use that dumpster fire [21:36] psydroid I had it installed as my second distro to some day learn container stuff [21:36] vZS1 You can use Docker on any GNU/Linux [21:36] psydroid But it was slow as hell and even dd segfaulted [21:36] psydroid So I got rid of it at once [21:36] vZS1 And you can even forego Docker altogether. Just use the appropriate namespaces [21:37] MinceR yeah, i'd rather forgo it entirely, as it didn't work well when i attempted it [21:37] techrights-bot Book review: #Copyright and Fundamental Rights in the Digital Age - The IPKat http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/book-review-copyright-and-fundamental.html #ipkitten [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book review: Copyright and Fundamental Rights in the Digital Age - The IPKat [21:37] MinceR plus it shares the kernel image between host and containers so containers can make demands of kernel features [21:38] vZS1 Well, it's sharing the same kernel [21:38] vZS1 Namespaces aren't VMs [21:38] schestowitz__ [21:29] C# on the .NET framework you are promoting these days, of course [21:38] vZS1 So you'd have that problem [21:38] schestowitz__ I cannot find where that quote, if any, comes from, psydroid [21:38] psydroid I wanted to learn about other stuff such as Podman, but now I don't really see the point [21:39] schestowitz__ podman is ibm [21:39] schestowitz__ vZS1 suggested I install podman [21:39] schestowitz__ then I realised non-IBM distros are second class [21:39] schestowitz__ even in mainstream distros like Debian [21:39] schestowitz__ so it felt like an IBM trap [21:39] psydroid schestowitz, spam mail I get from Red Hat about learning .NET [21:39] schestowitz__ same for ansible [21:40] schestowitz__ psydroid: pls forward to roy at schestowitz com [21:40] psydroid schestowitz, ok, I will do so [21:40] vZS1 Podman keeps up with kernel faster than Docker. I'm sure IBM will ruin it though [21:41] vZS1 Docker took forever to move to cgroups v2 [21:42] vZS1 You had to run Docker as root, to do most things that you'd use Docker for [21:42] psydroid And it has a daemon [21:42] vZS1 Yeah [21:42] techrights-bot WTH happened to Liverpool FC?! [21:42] psydroid Which causes actual problems with reliability [21:42] psydroid So I dismissed it before ever having used it [21:43] techrights-bot #Security and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146726 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) | Tux Machines [21:43] vZS1 You're better off just learning how to use namespaces. [21:43] vZS1 If you want isolation [21:43] vZS1 But VMs work just fine [21:44] psydroid Yes, I will do just that [21:44] vZS1 They're also not insecure. You have people mounting the Docker socket as root. Became common practice [21:44] vZS1 s/insecure/secure/ [21:44] psydroid And I have been using VMs for a long time [21:45] vZS1 VMs are much more secure than "containers". [21:47] psydroid 30-year gap until the next championship [21:48] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/tube [21:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Tube [21:48] psydroid is the whole concept of containers broken and just a way to sell more services on top of GNU/Linux? [21:49] MinceR it could probably be less broken [21:49] MinceR for example of docker didn't ignore its own settings and talk to the proxy when it's configured to do so [21:49] MinceR s/of/if/ [21:49] MinceR and containers could not use cancerd, requiring all sorts of bloat in the kernel [21:49] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146727 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:51] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [21:52] techrights-bot GNU Projects: GNU Make, GNU Radio, and #GIMP http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146728 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Projects: GNU Make, GNU Radio, and GIMP | Tux Machines [21:56] techrights-bot Free/Open Source Software Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146729 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw [21:56] psydroid on my 2016-era laptop cancerd often takes up to 90 seconds to fully shut down the system [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free/Open Source Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:57] schestowitz__ sound right [21:57] schestowitz__ i had similar issues [21:57] schestowitz__ only after systemd [21:57] schestowitz__ 2009 laptop [21:58] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:58] schestowitz__ psydroid: that's your fault totally! [21:58] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:58] schestowitz__ for using such an 'old' machine [21:59] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 21 [22:01] psydroid hah [22:02] vZS1 They have their uses [22:03] techrights-bot #Fedora and #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146730 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:04] karolyi[m] bsd jails > docker [22:04] schestowitz__ better jail than bail [22:05] karolyi[m] biddy of mine came swearing to me the other day, about docker... he hates it :) [22:05] karolyi[m] *buddy [22:06] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:11] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [22:12] techrights-bot Kernel: Restricted DMA and #AMD Work in #Linux 5.11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146732 #Kernel [22:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Restricted DMA and AMD Work in Linux 5.11 | Tux Machines [22:12] DaemonFC[m] Set the timeout for killing hung services to a lower amount. [22:12] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:14] vZS1 psydroid `$ man unshare` is a good starting point [22:14] vZS1 For some light reading [22:14] vZS1 On the topic [22:16] techrights-bot #System76 Brings Back the Darter Pro Linux Laptop with Longer Battery Life, Tiger Lake CPUs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146731 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [22:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Brings Back the Darter Pro Linux Laptop with Longer Battery Life, Tiger Lake CPUs | Tux Machines [22:19] techrights-bot How a Linux migration led to the creation of #Amazon Web Services http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146733 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Server [22:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How a Linux migration led to the creation of Amazon Web Services | Tux Machines [22:25] techrights-bot Links 21/1/2021: #RaspberryPiPico , #Ubuntu 21.04 Picks #GNOME 3.38, #KDE Plasma 5.21 Beta http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/raspberry-pi-pico/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latest [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/1/2021: Raspberry Pi Pico, Ubuntu 21.04 Picks GNOME 3.38, KDE Plasma 5.21 Beta | Techrights [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:25] karolyi[m] the letsencrypt guys have built a beast: https://letsencrypt.org/2021/01/21/next-gen-database-servers.html [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-letsencrypt.org | The Next Gen Database Servers Powering Let's Encrypt - Let's Encrypt - Free SSL/TLS Certificates [22:26] schestowitz__ monopolised almost [22:26] schestowitz__ hosted by a monopoly too [22:26] schestowitz__ Microsoft [22:26] schestowitz__ they need to delete the project and their web site from github [22:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.63 [22:36] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:36] karolyi[m] so what's the deal with the Intel ME? that's also not opensource... [22:40] psydroid what do you want to know about it? [22:42] karolyi[m] just that the consensus is to be against it, right? although it can't be done much about it other than trying to buy CPUs that don't have that firmware thing that can take over the entire computer [22:43] psydroid I guess you're right [22:43] techrights-bot Flowblade: Was It Worth Leaving #Kdenlive - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iO7Hol6H0 #Video #GNU #Linux [22:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Flowblade: Was It Worth Leaving Kdenlive - YouTube [22:44] techrights-bot "One of the trickiest things about setting up the #Xmonad tiling window manager is configuring the panel, which for most Xmonad users is Xmobar." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzuMHU3Qtw #gnu #linux [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Configuring The Xmobar Panel In Xmonad - YouTube [22:45] psydroid or you can actively look for alternatives that have been appearing over the past few years [22:45] karolyi[m] for example? [22:46] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:46] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [22:47] psydroid Honeycomb LX2K, Raptor Blackbird/Talos II and the various RISC-V boards that are slowly appearing [22:47] techrights-bot #System76 reveal the brand new Darter Pro with Intel Xe #graphics and Open #Firmware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146731#comment-27911 [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Brings Back the Darter Pro Linux Laptop with Longer Battery Life, Tiger Lake CPUs | Tux Machines [22:47] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/Dcv9MwF.jpg [22:49] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [22:50] karolyi[m] thanks, will look into those [22:51] techrights-bot "Sometimes, I think it is good to reflect on the the great things we take for granted here in #GNU #Linux land." https://cubiclenate.com/2021/01/21/cups-pdf-print-to-pdf-from-any-application/ [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CUPS-PDF | Print to PDF from any Application CubicleNate's Techpad [22:52] MinceR indeed [22:52] MinceR because microshit and ibm might take them away from us this year [22:52] MinceR or next year [22:54] techrights-bot #RaspberryPi HAT offer NMEA 2000 link for marine applications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146734 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi HAT offer NMEA 2000 link for marine applications | Tux Machines [22:58] techrights-bot #Seeed launches BeagleV, a $150 #RISCV computer designed to run Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146431#comment-27913 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seeed launches BeagleV, a $150 RISC-V computer designed to run Linux | Tux Machines ● Jan 21 [23:00] techrights-bot "The '202 #patent generally relates to a method and system for delivering categorized television programming" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/21/750-awarded-for-contemporary-display-202-prior-art #patents #swpats [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $750 Awarded for Contemporary Display '202 Prior Art Unified Patents [23:02] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [23:08] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [23:08] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [23:11] *Techrights-sec has quit (Read error: No route to host) [23:11] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:b94d:c218:2470:27b6) has joined #techrights [23:16] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2012178 [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5105423) [23:24] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [23:25] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.90 [23:46] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [23:52] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [23:53] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [23:53] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights