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schestowitz__zoobab: Mar 21 05:43
schestowitz__>>>> See update at  topMar 21 05:43
schestowitz__>>>>Mar 21 05:43
schestowitz__>>>> 21 05:43
schestowitz__>>> Yes!  Thanks for the work you've been putting in over the years on this.Mar 21 05:43
schestowitz__>>>  Let's make sure it is acknowledged dead by its proponents and that itMar 21 05:43
schestowitz__>>> stays dead.Mar 21 05:43
schestowitz__>> I will be collecting responses without surrendering to the temptation toMar 21 05:43
schestowitz__>> do a Nelson's (Simpsons) "HAHA!"Mar 21 05:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Germany’s FCC and Its Decision on UPC May Not Matter Much Anymore (and the Government in Berlin Knows That) (Updated) | TechrightsMar 21 05:43
schestowitz__>>Mar 21 05:43
schestowitz__> Agreed.  It is important to drive home why this victory over the UPC isMar 21 05:43
schestowitz__> a good thing for European business and Europe in general.Mar 21 05:43
schestowitz__I will write about it in the weekend. First I want to survey the latest wave of disinfo from Team UPC...Mar 21 05:43
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kingoffrancehello, i just found the website, wow.   i had mostly always been a bsd user, but yes, freenode itself is so corporatey nowadays :/    anyways, i hadnt heard of stuff or the rms thing, but nice to read the site;   i thought all the non-corporatists were dead :/    i'm grinning in delight, i didnt know this place existed anymore!Mar 21 06:54
kingoffrancethats the worst thing IMO -- people who havent been around, everything will seem "normal" they never saw any world before all this stuffMar 21 06:55
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roy-on-ted-boxhi kingoffranceMar 21 07:18
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schestowitz__they keep telling us "Open Source won"Mar 21 07:19
schestowitz__What they mean to say is, proprietary giants own over (hijacked) the Free software movement and things remain as always beforeMar 21 07:19
kingoffranceyupMar 21 07:20
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oiaohmopen source won does not equal freedom won.Mar 21 08:24
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oiaohmschestowitz__:  Open Source Initiative was always split from the free software foundation.   Lot of ways Open Source Initiative was always interested in commercial off the start lines so I would not say hijacked as it never was really about free software movement.Mar 21 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Open-source software - WikipediaMar 21 08:33
kingoffranceyeah, i agree, reading quote from esr on lunduke's site i see: "These people are an utter disgrace to the ideals on which I founded OSI.”   i.e. looks like looks like even OSI has been "co-opted"Mar 21 08:50
kingoffrancewell, they say that because to those types FOSS == there is no free software without "open source" (in some people's minds)Mar 21 08:50
kingoffrancei would say that is a deliberate tactic -- and i've never been a strong FS supporter, but even can spot suchMar 21 08:51
kingoffrances/even/even I/Mar 21 08:51
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kingoffrancethats exactly what i mean by "people who havent been around" :/Mar 21 08:51
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oiaohmkingoffrance: " In 1998, a group of individuals advocated that the term free software should be replaced by open-source software (OSS) as an expression which is less ambiguous[11][12][13] and more comfortable for the corporate world." that from the wikipedia and it cited.Mar 21 08:58
kingoffranceyup, when i point that out in many channels, its like some people never heard of that!Mar 21 08:58
oiaohmbasically open-source software idea was about having name that was company friendly.Mar 21 08:58
oiaohmand ideas that were company friendly.Mar 21 08:59
oiaohmYes we got big large companies.Mar 21 08:59
kingoffrancelike i said, i was never strong FS supporter, but i lurked back thenMar 21 08:59
kingoffranceto have people on freenode who dont know that nowadays is mind-blowing to me Mar 21 09:00
oiaohmWith open source we have got what we asked for.Mar 21 09:00
kingoffranceyup :/Mar 21 09:00
oiaohmHard reality we have still not worked how to fund software development properly.Mar 21 09:01
roy-on-ted-box[09:00] <oiaohm> With open source we have got what we asked for.Mar 21 09:01
roy-on-ted-boxthey banned their own  founderMar 21 09:01
roy-on-ted-boxOSI did not accomplish its goalsMar 21 09:01
roy-on-ted-boxone cofounder left in PROTECT in JanuaryMar 21 09:01
roy-on-ted-boxA month later they banned the other cofounderMar 21 09:01
oiaohmBut the founder started countering the early ideas he laid down.Mar 21 09:02
oiaohmBe careful what you ask for.Mar 21 09:02
roy-on-ted-boxso whatever "Open Source" hoped to (originally) achieve, it clearly failed toMar 21 09:02
oiaohmSometimes you get it then you decide you should have asked for something else and it too late to change.Mar 21 09:02
oiaohmWhat it hope to achive was open source developer paid by companies to work on stuff.Mar 21 09:03
oiaohmand companies using open source software.Mar 21 09:03
oiaohmSo its been successful at hitting it early goals perfectly.Mar 21 09:03
oiaohmJust now people are working out the freedom stuff of GNU/FSF is kind of important.Mar 21 09:03
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oiaohmroy-on-ted-box: basically the problem is you say OSI did not accomplish its goals when that is wrong.  Its accomplished the goals they wrote at the start.  Now its buyers remorse. Mar 21 09:05
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oiaohm  now this is a problem that is kind of expected.Mar 21 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | npm is joining GitHub - The GitHub BlogMar 21 09:16
roy-on-ted-boxThey buy the supply chainMar 21 09:24
roy-on-ted-boxit's all about controlMar 21 09:24
roy-on-ted-boxcontrolling their rivalsMar 21 09:24
roy-on-ted-boxantitrust not invokedMar 21 09:24
roy-on-ted-boxOSI bribed by themMar 21 09:24
roy-on-ted-boxLF bribed by themMar 21 09:24
roy-on-ted-boxOIN the sameMar 21 09:24
roy-on-ted-boxso they get away with itMar 21 09:24
oiaohmroy-on-ted-box: there is a downside with buying a supply chain and not controlling production.  If you are not careful you get left holding the bills with none of the profitMar 21 10:14
oiaohmWith all the stunts Microsoft has tried against open source and Linux without planing what the out come for them would be long term I would not be supprised if they have miss calculated this one as well.Mar 21 10:15
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oiaohmroy-on-ted-box: think about holden/GM large car dealerships in Australia who had basic monopoly's in areas.   When holden/GM shut up shop they were screwed.   Yes they controlled the supply chain between factory and customer but it did not help them one bit when the factory made a choice.Mar 21 10:18
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oiaohmYou want to control a market you normally don't go after supply chains you go after production.  Control production you can choke the supply chain part to death.Mar 21 10:19
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scientesall the borders are closedMar 21 10:29
oiaohmscientes: does that include state boarders where you are yet?Mar 21 10:31
scientesI am half way around the world in the country of GeorgiaMar 21 10:31
scientesand the borders are all closedMar 21 10:31
scientesand this is a country heavily dependent on tourism, which meant that the lari went from 2.8 to 3.2 in a few daysMar 21 10:32
zoobabIt did not last long to revive the UPC:Mar 21 10:33
zoobab 21 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Willem Hoyng: today's decision sets back UPC at least five years - The IPKatMar 21 10:33
scientesuniversal product code?Mar 21 10:33
zoobab"the project is not dead yet, and we must keep in mind that we have tried to come to a harmonized European patent law for 70 years now: waiting a few years more is not the end of the world."Mar 21 10:33
scientes"harmonized"Mar 21 10:34
oiaohmscientes:  there are 11 regional zones inside Georgia I guess it the boarders to other countries shut at this stage not the internal boarders as well?Mar 21 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Political Map of Georgia - Nations Online ProjectMar 21 10:34
scientesoiaohm, there are no internal bordersMar 21 10:34
scientesI mean, it is a mountainous country so I guess it would pretty easy to implement road blocksMar 21 10:34
oiaohmbasically these would be road blocks on theese internal boarders taht normally don't have boarder posts or anything else.Mar 21 10:35
oiaohmSo not quite to o my go we are segmenting yet.Mar 21 10:35
scientesthe US hardly has internal borders eitherMar 21 10:36
scientesa few natural ones, but not that manyMar 21 10:36
scientesespecially in the eastMar 21 10:37
oiaohmReally it the next level of quarantine Mar 21 10:37
oiaohmWe have not seen it used for over 100 years.Mar 21 10:37
scientesbut i get what you are sayingMar 21 10:37
scientesthe borders will have to change eventually, so I see the elites trying to get a head startMar 21 10:38
scientesthey did try to partition RussiaMar 21 10:38
scientesand now I can't use my Russia visaMar 21 10:38
scientesas they closed the borders this weekMar 21 10:38
scientesuntil at least april 1Mar 21 10:38
oiaohmSo it may be just find somewhere decent to bunker down.Mar 21 10:38
scientesGeorgia is nice, but the language is very difficultMar 21 10:38
scientesactually wouldn't be a bad placeMar 21 10:39
scientesI really need to go camping this weekMar 21 10:39
scientesand explore, although around here (Batumi) it is mostly just the big mountain parkMar 21 10:39
oiaohmGetting permission to camp somewhere isolated until the virus problem sorts out could be a good move.Mar 21 10:39
scientesI don't give a shit about the virusMar 21 10:39
scientes*the fluMar 21 10:40
scientesI just want to exploreMar 21 10:40
oiaohmAre you below your normal living altitude and a non smoker.  If not and you get it you could be dead fairly quickly. Mar 21 10:41
scientesI was just complaining that it is a bit too desolate, unlike the Georgian countrysideMar 21 10:41
scientesoh geezeMar 21 10:41
scientesI swam 5km in La Paz, at 3600mMar 21 10:41
oiaohmdo remember this virus does lung damage.Mar 21 10:41
oiaohmSo altitude is a serous consideration.Mar 21 10:42
scientesseriously, there is nothing to be scared ofMar 21 10:42
scientesI'm more scared of the bearsMar 21 10:43
oiaohmYounger people who smoke and over drink have been found to have a fairly high death rate.Mar 21 10:43
oiaohmI guess you are not in that camp.,Mar 21 10:43
scientesyou mean like 0.000001%?Mar 21 10:43
scientesseriously there are like 7 billion people in this worldMar 21 10:43
oiaohmCloser to 4 to 5 percent of those who get ill.Mar 21 10:43
scientesand very few have died, and they were all 70+ with other illnessesMar 21 10:43
oiaohmwho are in that camp.Mar 21 10:44
scientesand also there was no cause of deathMar 21 10:44
scientesand the test has false positivesMar 21 10:44
scientesand there are so many lies and exaggerations that I don't even believe the truth anymoreMar 21 10:44
scientes<oiaohm> Closer to 4 to 5 percent of those who get ill.Mar 21 10:44
scientesI have heard so many numbers I don't believe anythingMar 21 10:44
oiaohmIn that camp as in heavy smoker and heavy drinkers.Mar 21 10:44
scienteswhich means that it is ALL liesMar 21 10:45
oiaohmThere body is badly damaged really before illness.Mar 21 10:45
scientesand zero mesageMar 21 10:45
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oiaohmSo some what effective illness can kill them.Mar 21 10:45
scientesYeti might kill me tooMar 21 10:45
scientesor a shark attack in the forrestMar 21 10:45
scienteswho knowsMar 21 10:45
XRevan86 "As of 20 March 2020, the rate of deaths per number of diagnosed cases is 4.1%; however, it ranges from 0.2% to 15% depending on age and other health problems."Mar 21 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Coronavirus disease 2019 - WikipediaMar 21 10:46
XRevan86Here are the numbers.Mar 21 10:46
scientesI don't trust themMar 21 10:46
scientesI have heard so many numbers, and top people are lieing through their teethMar 21 10:46
oiaohmIt is serousally you risk depends on your health.Mar 21 10:46
scienteswith rediculous languageMar 21 10:46
scientesso much that I don't trust anyone at this pointMar 21 10:46
scientesthere is something behind thisMar 21 10:46
oiaohmand that you are not doing anything to screw up your health.Mar 21 10:46
XRevan86scientes: Not even Pediwikia?Mar 21 10:46
scientesto get the head of the WHO and CDC lyingMar 21 10:46
scientesand using TERRORIST languageMar 21 10:47
oiaohmIts not lieing just will viruses like this there is no black or white numbers.Mar 21 10:47
scienteslike "You are with us or you are with the terrorists." type of stuffMar 21 10:47
oiaohmYour medicial state will define your risk.Mar 21 10:47
oiaohmand how careful you need to be.Mar 21 10:47
scientesand I've watched the gov cry wolf about the flu EVERY year for the past 5 yearsMar 21 10:48
scientesso I don't believe a word they sayMar 21 10:48
oiaohmnon smoker, not a heavy drinker in good health not stresssing body with altitude you are most likely looking at the 0.2 percent or lower risk. Mar 21 10:48
scientesoiaohm, less than bear attack risksMar 21 10:49
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scientesi.e. ZERO riskMar 21 10:49
oiaohmscientes: if you are not that list.   You may need to think about as the virus could be a bigger risk than a bear.Mar 21 10:49
scientesoiaohm, don't tell me what to doMar 21 10:50
oiaohmIts just making informed choice.Mar 21 10:50
XRevan86 is waiting for scientesMar 21 10:50
scientes^^^oh damnMar 21 10:50
oiaohmLike even a person who smokes stopping now while the virus is around can in under week cut their risk in half.Mar 21 10:50
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oiaohmscientes: we don't have lethal viruses without vaccines to contain it very often.   The past flu stuff you talked about there were vaccines being deployed to control it.Mar 21 10:53
oiaohmSo this is not the normal.Mar 21 10:53
scientesthat's more normal---alaskan bears scavengingMar 21 10:54
scientesor siberian, no seMar 21 10:54
XRevan86 found itMar 21 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLEMar 21 10:55
scientesXRevan86, so coolMar 21 10:56
scientes 21 11:01
scienteshahahahahahahahahahahahaMar 21 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLEMar 21 11:01
scientesall us technies knew it would happenMar 21 11:01
oiaohmNow how many countries would be screwed over if facebook was taken off line.Mar 21 11:02
XRevan86Lots of Internet-connected devices with outdated insecure software? This is fine.Mar 21 11:02
oiaohmIncluding ISP provided modems by the way.Mar 21 11:03
oiaohmFor some reasons the ISPs think it fine.Mar 21 11:03
scientes 21 11:04
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scientes"while Russian authorities have compared it to America's Disneyland. Many guests of the park wouldn't agree with such high praise: they have discovered broken or non-functioning rides, construction waste, high prices, and questionable architecture. "Mar 21 11:04
scientes"ut it is also very likely that it's been a long time since they visited Nagatinskaya Poyma, where just a few years ago pike fish were freely laying eggs and where you could spot a hoopoe bird or a marsh frog.Mar 21 11:05
scientes"Mar 21 11:05
scienteshahahahahahaMar 21 11:05
oiaohmReally that description sounds like Disneyland early builds.Mar 21 11:08
oiaohmPeople miss how much of Disneyland has been completely rebuilt over the years.Mar 21 11:08
*scientes went to DisneyLand, it was not that greatMar 21 11:08
scientesit was really quite boringMar 21 11:08
*scientes remembers a few ridesMar 21 11:09
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scientes"To be perfectly honest, it would also be good to witness the historic moment when Russia's multi-ethnic people rely on something other than shopping centers to lift their spirits. There must be something else out there. Right?Mar 21 11:12
scientes"Mar 21 11:12
scienteshahahaMar 21 11:12
XRevan86There's Internet.Mar 21 11:12
XRevan86Friends and family, meet-ups, celebrationsMar 21 11:12
scientesI think it was a jokeMar 21 11:13
XRevan86I don't really get attractions like that, they aren't even impressive.Mar 21 11:13
scientesXRevan86, what about unimpressive ones?Mar 21 11:15
scienteslike all the imported U.S. stuff that is in GeorgiaMar 21 11:15
scientesor even BoliviaMar 21 11:16
XRevan86scientes: I meant all of them.Mar 21 11:16
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scientesI'm talking about just an odd bucky-metal-horse that is coin-operatedMar 21 11:16
scientesthose were a fact of life in the U.S. in the 90sMar 21 11:16
scientesand when I went to Bolivia I realized where they sent them allMar 21 11:16
XRevan86scientes: hahMar 21 11:17
scientesBatumi is full of used theme park equitmentMar 21 11:18
scientesand it all still works, because it was made in the U.S. instead of ChinaMar 21 11:18
scientesXRevan86, its just something exciting for the kids to do, nothing moreMar 21 11:19
scientesalthough a water-park is really the bestMar 21 11:19
oiaohmReally some of the best for being interesting for me have shutdown over time like the shark show done by a shark hunter and a bottle house.Mar 21 11:29
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tedboxhehMar 21 11:48
tedboxbad logic thereMar 21 11:48
tedboxbut then again, it's not a decent siteMar 21 11:48
tedboxWhen you're stuck at home you might use broadbandMar 21 11:49
tedboxyou're not mobile anymoreMar 21 11:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brave is promoting etoro affiliate program and making a fortune from its users who will likely lose their money. · Issue #8793 · brave/brave-browser · GitHubMar 21 13:17
tedboxhmm... githubMar 21 13:18
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oiaohmI am not sure.   I am wondering if Microsoft is not exactly doing a supply chain attack.   I think it could be we are buying into the supply chain where we have poor control really so we can appear to have relevance to the industry to our share holders so our share holders don't jump ship. Mar 21 15:49
oiaohmIn the same logic of companies going into debt to buy back own shares to make their PE numbers look better.Mar 21 15:50
psydroidI have found something interesting in that more people are openly getting fed up with Microsoft and Vista 10 to the point that they have lost any hope and/or migrated to Linux. I think we are going to see an avalanche of migrations off the platform during the next few years. Only the true believers will stay with the platform until there is nothing left to believe in anymore.Mar 21 16:10
oiaohmpsydroid: really Linux platform is starting to get a lot of basic problems solved as well.Mar 21 16:50
cubexyzwin nt 3.5 was kind of a ripoff of OS/2Mar 21 16:57
cubexyzno wonder IBM and Microsoft get along like fire and iceMar 21 16:58
XRevan86It was kind of a fork too %)Mar 21 16:58
XRevan86and a story of betrayalMar 21 16:58
XRevan86and trustMar 21 16:58
oiaohmcubexyz: win nt 3.5 is very much a rip off of OS/2 and VMS.Mar 21 17:01
cubexyzIBM _was_ software benevolent, but no one remembers nowMar 21 17:01
oiaohmcubexyz: it explains why HP and IBM don't exactly like Microsoft.Mar 21 17:01
cubexyzsoftware benevolent but very hardware malevolentMar 21 17:02
cubexyzall that changed in the 1980sMar 21 17:02
cubexyzoiaohm, who really likes M$? :)Mar 21 17:02
cubexyzexcept for stockholdersMar 21 17:03
oiaohmNot really the XT would not have been as possible if IBM had not published complete circuit specs.Mar 21 17:03
XRevan86and stockholmersMar 21 17:03
oiaohmIBM was historically not that hardware malevolent either.Mar 21 17:03
cubexyzoiaohm, for IBM 1130 or IBM/360 no parts after 10 years (or less)Mar 21 17:03
cubexyzno support, just give back the computer after contract expiresMar 21 17:04
oiaohmIBM did provide those at end of support with the specifications to make the parts they need.   Some of the reason why some mussium s have IBM1130 and IBM/360 still working.Mar 21 17:05
oiaohmWas not exactly that IBM was hardware malevolent it was more they were using the factory space for something else so could not make the parts.Mar 21 17:06
oiaohmSome ways they are examples why what is being asked for under right for repair might be highly useless to most people.Mar 21 17:06
cubexyzoiaohm, hard to think of IBM as not malevolent re: hardwareMar 21 17:08
cubexyzmaybe nowadays they are betterMar 21 17:08
oiaohmIBM has gone though differene cycles.Mar 21 17:08
oiaohmBefore Microsoft mess IBM was very open with customers with specifications on stuff so at end of life with enough money you could keep the thing going.Mar 21 17:09
oiaohmThe mess over IBM XT being cloned based of stuff IBM had provided made IBM a lot more protective for a while.Mar 21 17:10
oiaohmYes that lot more protective back fired on IBM badly.Mar 21 17:10
cubexyzmicrochannel? :)Mar 21 17:10
cubexyzdidn't really go over too wellMar 21 17:10
oiaohmYep.Mar 21 17:11
oiaohmRemember before that all sockets in IBM systems were fully documented with open spec sheets that anyone could implement.Mar 21 17:11
oiaohmRemember IBM wrote the XT ISA bus.Mar 21 17:11
oiaohmcubexyz:  You have to remember multi parties in fact made clones of the IBM1130 because IBM gave away so much in specifications as well.Mar 21 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ All about the IBM 1130 Computing SystemMar 21 17:15
oiaohmEarly on IBM is very open with information to the point their products are being cloned.Mar 21 17:15
oiaohmThe early idea of licensing silicon designs to other parties to make as much volume as they need is a early IBM thing.Mar 21 17:17
scientesoh god APLMar 21 17:27
scienteshow big is a word?Mar 21 17:28
XRevan86scientes: Where? 4 bytes or 8 bytes typicallyMar 21 17:30
scientes> Mar 21 17:30
scientesBy report from Dan Chang, four IBM 1800 systems were running in their original application at Pickering Nuclear Power Station, Ontario, Canada. It appears that they were finally retired from service in 2010, replaced by machines running the original 1800 code in emulation.Mar 21 17:30
scientesXRevan86, ibm1130Mar 21 17:30
XRevan86scientes: 2 bytesMar 21 17:31
scientes16 bits you meanMar 21 17:32
XRevan86scientes: Yes, 2 octets :)Mar 21 17:32
scientesmy god it is a good thing that this stuff got standardizedMar 21 17:32
DaemonFC[m]> and this is a country heavily dependent on tourism, which meant that the lari went from 2.8 to 3.2 in a few daysMar 21 17:33
DaemonFC[m]Illinois went on a lockdown.Mar 21 17:33
DaemonFC[m]But you can go outside. You either need to have a good reason to be going somewhere or do something outside by yourself.Mar 21 17:34
DaemonFC[m]Walking is still okay as long as you are not with more than one other person.Mar 21 17:34
cubexyzI actually used IBM/360 APL a few times :)Mar 21 17:36
cubexyzdon't see APL much these daysMar 21 17:37
cubexyzsome of the DEC system 20's had their own version of itMar 21 17:39
cubexyzcode maintaining for APL... yeah not too greatMar 21 17:40
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cubexyzthe TOPs version wasn't too badMar 21 17:42
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MinceR:)Mar 21 17:53
MinceRbut not too oftenMar 21 17:53
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