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DaemonFC[m]I wouldn't bother with SAE 30 even in conventional.Nov 21 00:02
DaemonFC[m]It's the same price as multi-viscosity, which does a better job for cold starts and the wear that causes.Nov 21 00:02
DaemonFC[m]It's better not to second guess your owner's manual unless the company that made the vehicle issues a Technical Bulletin that revises the recommdation.Nov 21 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Ford says go ahead and use 5w20 in any Crown Victoria back to 1992.Nov 21 00:03
DaemonFC[m]Which means you could go ahead and use 0w20 while you're at it.Nov 21 00:03
DaemonFC[m]Mine never blew up. LOLNov 21 00:03
DaemonFC[m]It liked it fine. Never leaked, never lost any oil.Nov 21 00:03
DaemonFC[m]There's no way they'd just back-spec cars they sold 10-15 years before the TSB to 5w20 for CAFE.Nov 21 00:04
DaemonFC[m]They already either got CAFE fines or credits based on the sticker for that year.Nov 21 00:04
danielp3344Mine was totally out of oil and I had to put something in itNov 21 00:04
danielp3344It's run so well I didn't bother to change it laterNov 21 00:05
DaemonFC[m]Although I suppose it could be to make things easier on the dealerships.Nov 21 00:05
DaemonFC[m]If there's only going to be a few customers who ABSOLUTELY must use 5w30, then no reason to carry so much of it.Nov 21 00:05
DaemonFC[m]The CAFE thing was kind of funny by itself anyway.Nov 21 00:06
DaemonFC[m]You get WAAAAY more of a mpg boost switching from conventional oil to full synthetic 5w30 to 0w30 than you do going from there to 5w20 or 0w20, all things being equal.Nov 21 00:06
DaemonFC[m]When I switched the Crown Victoria over to 5w20 conventional I didn't really register any mpg improvement. If we take Ford's work for it, I theoretically got maybe 1/10th of a mpg more.Nov 21 00:07
DaemonFC[m]But when I switched to synthetic 0w20 I picked up a good 2% or so, and it was consistent.Nov 21 00:08
DaemonFC[m]And that's what I'm seeing again with the Impala.Nov 21 00:08
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DaemonFC[m]So if you want to get better mpg, go full synthetic, but expect it to be relatively small anyway.Nov 21 00:08
DaemonFC[m]There's no good reason to defy Chevy's manual entirely and go Xw20.Nov 21 00:09
DaemonFC[m]Just drop down to 0w30 full synthetic.Nov 21 00:09
DaemonFC[m]Reset your mpg indicator. Nov 21 00:09
DaemonFC[m]You should see an uptick over time.Nov 21 00:10
danielp3344$570 for a set of connecting rodsNov 21 00:10
*danielp3344 goes into shockNov 21 00:10
DaemonFC[m]You're talking a 2% mpg boost going full synth vs 0.2% or so for dropping from Xw30 to Xw20.Nov 21 00:10
DaemonFC[m]I mean, you can if your OEM approved it, but it's better not to second guess the engineers.Nov 21 00:11
psydroidI have one of Gabriel García Márquez's books (Cien años de soledad, One Hundred Years of Solitude), but I never got further than the first few sentences because I didn't understand much, so I left it for a later dateNov 21 00:12
DaemonFC[m]And definitely don't go higher viscosity on these new Hondas and Toyotas that call for 0w16.Nov 21 00:12
DaemonFC[m]Especially if you want the warranty to be good.Nov 21 00:12
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DaemonFC[m]If they call for 0w16 and design an oil pump and engine tolerances for that and you run 5w30, you're screwed.Nov 21 00:13
DaemonFC[m]1. If they call for oil specs that nothing but an 0w16 can meet and you use anything else, you're paying for a new engine.Nov 21 00:14
DaemonFC[m]2. There's nothing in conventional or blend for 0w anything.Nov 21 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Older cars have some more flexibility. I wouldn't do 0w40 in the Impala but I doubt it would blow up. If anything, my gas mileage would go down a bit.Nov 21 00:15
MinceRVlad the ImpalaNov 21 00:15
DaemonFC[m]You can't just basically pour anything you want in there and probably get away with it on these new cars.Nov 21 00:15
DaemonFC[m]You really do need to pay attention to the specs and stay within them.Nov 21 00:16
DaemonFC[m]Lucas "Transmission Fix" doesn't do well in Imports.Nov 21 00:17
DaemonFC[m]In many cases, it fucks the transmission worse than it already was.Nov 21 00:17
DaemonFC[m]"I poured it into the BMW and the BMW blew up.".Nov 21 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Maybe Cash For Clunkers didnt have to be so specific for old Beemers. Nov 21 00:18
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MinceR:>Nov 21 00:22
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Al Bundy said something you'd like.Nov 21 00:23
DaemonFC[m]"I hit a BMW while I was parking.".Nov 21 00:23
DaemonFC[m]Peg asks, "Did you leave a note?".Nov 21 00:23
DaemonFC[m]"Yes I did. It said, 'Next time, buy an American car.'".Nov 21 00:24
MinceR:>Nov 21 00:24
DaemonFC[m]Then Steve comes over and says "Sorry I was late. Some jerk backed into my BMW.".Nov 21 00:24
MinceR:>Nov 21 00:24
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Then there was the episode where Steve traded in the Beemer for a Mercedes.Nov 21 01:01
DaemonFC[m]And then they went on vacation and a bear tore it up and tossed him the hood ornament. Nov 21 01:01
DaemonFC[m]This is how you know it was like 1987.Nov 21 01:02
DaemonFC[m]He's over there crying with a Mercedes hood ornament in his hands saying "$25,000!!!!".Nov 21 01:03
DaemonFC[m]You see a Beemer from the 1990s on the road now and then.Nov 21 01:05
DaemonFC[m]It's usually in terrible condition. A total rattletrap.Nov 21 01:05
DaemonFC[m]Probably only 1 in a 100 survive that long even if you maintain them.Nov 21 01:06
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DaemonFC[m]I got my "Pain in the gas." bumper sticker with a caricature of Illinois Governor JB Pritzker.Nov 21 02:12
scientesGovernor Prick?Nov 21 02:18
scientesis he the governator?Nov 21 02:18
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*XRevan86 talks with someone about Apache httpd and PHP-FPM, and during that talk I realised something about *that bug*.Nov 21 20:38
XRevan86If one uses LocationMatch in Apache httpd to match PHP files, that is a lot closer to the expoitable environment than with FilesMatch.Nov 21 20:42
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XRevan86MinceR: It's not clear: did he do it?Nov 21 22:01
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