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DaemonFC[m]+193,477Nov 21 00:24
DaemonFC[m]New record.Nov 21 00:24
CrystalMathi think Ariadne was here longer than meNov 21 00:32
CrystalMathi joined during the whole RMS thingNov 21 00:32
CrystalMathas i created the channel ##rmsNov 21 00:32
CrystalMathbut i wanted to get better infoNov 21 00:33
CrystalMathso i joined here to pick up on the newsNov 21 00:33
schestowitzAriadne used to be kaniini hereNov 21 00:40
schestowitz...'ve her like over a decade onlineNov 21 00:40
scientesschestowitz, ahhhh thankNov 21 00:40
schestowitz#Techrights Bulletin for Friday, November 20, 2020 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextNov 21 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesNov 21 00:41
schestowitz#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingNov 21 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexNov 21 00:41
schestowitztoday some  new code and workflow in placeNov 21 00:41
scientesschestowitz, ahahhaahahahaa schestowitz is now Miss Scarlet Nov 21 00:41
schestowitzso there might be bugs, sometimes likely to have gone wrong, somewhere...Nov 21 00:41
schestowitz"However, it seems likely that – after the constitutional complaint that was filed in 2017 by patent lawyer Ingve Stjerna – a new constitutional complaint will be filed as soon as the parliamentary procedure is completed, this time by the FFII. Dr. Stjerna has also left open the possibility of filing a new complaint. This could further delay the entry into force of the system, or mean the end of it."Nov 21 00:44
schestowitzzoobab: Nov 21 00:45
schestowitzno comments http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/11/20/upca-draft-ratification-bill-to-crucial-legal-committee-german-bundestag/Nov 21 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | UPCA draft ratification bill to crucial legal committee German Bundestag - Kluwer Patent BlogNov 21 00:45
schestowitz"Early November :-)Nov 21 00:45
schestowitzWait till it becomes DecemberNov 21 00:45
schestowitzthen 2021Nov 21 00:45
schestowitz:-)Nov 21 00:45
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DaemonFC[m]+196,160Nov 21 01:01
DaemonFC[m]Still going.Nov 21 01:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Garuda Linux “Black Eagle” Released With A New Dr460nized edition http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144592 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d0125ce2-6ac9-454b-ae1f-09d0d5dbf3cc]Nov 21 01:03
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: stop!Nov 21 01:06
schestowitzfake newsNov 21 01:06
schestowitzTrump said it was going awayNov 21 01:06
schestowitzhow many of those 200k will be dead in 3-4 weeks?Nov 21 01:06
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DaemonFC[m]A lot.Nov 21 01:07
schestowitz9/11 per day for xmasNov 21 01:07
DaemonFC[m]80,000 was enough to mean 1,400 dead two weeks later.Nov 21 01:07
DaemonFC[m]Something like that.Nov 21 01:07
DaemonFC[m]So well over 3,000 a day within 2 weeks.Nov 21 01:08
schestowitzI read about mobile morgues todayNov 21 01:09
schestowitzin the USNov 21 01:09
schestowitzthey don't have place to store the corpsesNov 21 01:09
schestowitzthere's one person in this channel who thinks this is normalNov 21 01:09
schestowitzmaybe FEMA will step in with its infamous plastic coffinsNov 21 01:09
DaemonFC[m]Georgia Governor Kemp certified the herd mutiny today. Was visibly aggravated.Nov 21 01:19
schestowitzthinks of people like cattleNov 21 01:24
schestowitzspeaks accordinglyNov 21 01:24
DaemonFC[m]It was my joke.Nov 21 01:24
DaemonFC[m]A play on herd immunity.Nov 21 01:24
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DaemonFC[m]Maybe I'll poke fun at my dad with it.Nov 21 01:25
schestowitzI was gonna say this!Nov 21 01:25
schestowitzBut about your mom!Nov 21 01:25
schestowitztell her Donald thinks she's a goatNov 21 01:25
DaemonFC[m]Already done. :)Nov 21 01:25
DaemonFC[m]She was exposed again at work.Nov 21 01:25
DaemonFC[m]One of the other nurses tested positive and was forced into quarantine. Nov 21 01:26
DaemonFC[m]I told her retire early with partial Social Security and her pension from the Catholic church, and take Obamacare for a couple years for like $100 a month until she can get Medicare.Nov 21 01:26
DaemonFC[m]But nobody listens to me until they have a disaster and then they just get angry because I say it coming and tried to warn them.Nov 21 01:27
DaemonFC[m]Social Security penalizes you for retiring early, and more the earlier you do it, but the upside is you draw it longer, and now, you can get away from this shit and isolate yourself.Nov 21 01:28
DaemonFC[m]Is it worth another $100 theoretical dollars if you wait another year that they're just going to tax anyway? Of course it isn't.Nov 21 01:28
DaemonFC[m]But that's like, my opinion and stuff.Nov 21 01:28
schestowitzaaaaaaaarrr llload and savvvvo' golden dawnald will save the dayNov 21 01:31
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schestowitz[01:26] <DaemonFC[m]> I told her retire early with partial Social Security and her pension from the Catholic church, and take Obamacare for a couple years for like $100 a month until she can get Medicare.Nov 21 01:34
schestowitzDawnald was sent by Jesus himselfNov 21 01:34
schestowitzto save us from the antichrist himselfNov 21 01:35
schestowitzHussein Obama :-)Nov 21 01:35
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schestowitzmichael running out of linux stories to cover? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=apple-mac-m1&num=1Nov 21 01:53
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scientesAssuming they are telling the truth, IBM's position on facial recognition was ethical, while Amazon's position, while pretending to be ethical, was not ethical at all. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/ibm-quits-facial-recognition-calls-for-federal-regulation-of-police-use/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/technology/amazon-facial-recognition-backlash.htmlNov 21 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | IBM asks Congress for police reform, leaves facial recognition business | Ars TechnicaNov 21 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Amazon Puts Moratorium on Facial Recognition Software by Police - The New York TimesNov 21 02:54
schestowitzit's face-saving PR, scientesNov 21 03:00
schestowitzbecause they got caughtNov 21 03:00
schestowitzthen negative pressNov 21 03:00
schestowitznow they'll point to a press releaseNov 21 03:00
schestowitzsaying they had stoppedNov 21 03:00
schestowitzthere are caveatsNov 21 03:00
schestowitzagencies they still provide it itNov 21 03:00
schestowitz*toNov 21 03:00
schestowitzor providing by proxyNov 21 03:00
schestowitzso it boils down to corporate boardroom doublespeakNov 21 03:00
schestowitzscientes: typicalNov 21 03:01
schestowitzthe media plays along "with the script"Nov 21 03:01
scientesschestowitz, but if you eyes are open, its face-losing PRNov 21 03:02
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scientesschestowitz, typicalNov 21 03:03
schestowitzscientes: we did some articles about thisNov 21 03:03
schestowitzI can find someNov 21 03:03
scientesSouth Park does it tooNov 21 03:03
schestowitzalso memesNov 21 03:03
scientesthe consistent message of "opposite day"Nov 21 03:03
schestowitzahNov 21 03:05
schestowitzMicrosoft fights for developersNov 21 03:05
schestowitzsays githubNov 21 03:05
scientesIBM's PR, *if* is to be believed, is actually the ethical positionNov 21 03:05
schestowitzfights for them to be imprisoned by githubNov 21 03:05
scientesno different from Microsoft's blog post about the youtube-dl take-downNov 21 03:05
scienteswhich is patently rediculousNov 21 03:06
schestowitzscientes: IBM is now fighter against racismNov 21 03:06
schestowitzthey even sent a PR agency to tell me about itNov 21 03:06
schestowitz a new campaign called emb(RACE)Nov 21 03:06
schestowitzenough to confuse some peopleNov 21 03:06
schestowitzwho might have seen Hitler/Watson photo opsNov 21 03:06
scientes<schestowitz> enough to confuse some peopleNov 21 03:06
scientes^^^^^Nov 21 03:06
schestowitzmixed messagesNov 21 03:06
scientesif you can't lie to people, confuse themNov 21 03:06
schestowitzpeople will find the "balance"Nov 21 03:06
schestowitzit's somewhere "in between"Nov 21 03:07
schestowitzscientes: this is where techrights come handyNov 21 03:07
schestowitzIBM also misuses feminismNov 21 03:07
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tsIxNci_dENov 21 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Confuse-a-Cat - Monty Python's Flying Circus - S01E05 - YouTubeNov 21 03:07
schestowitzwe did some article to show abuse of women by the most prominent IBMersNov 21 03:07
schestowitzthey have big budgetNov 21 03:07
schestowitzbut history (or facts) are still not on their sideNov 21 03:08
schestowitzso you persist with the truthNov 21 03:08
schestowitzexpounding again and again against their budget and corrupt 'journalists'Nov 21 03:08
schestowitzthey waste moneyNov 21 03:08
schestowitzuntil it's not worth it anymoreNov 21 03:08
schestowitzthe whole "Corporate Responsibility" thing is now new, only the term isNov 21 03:09
schestowitzalso greenwash e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/09/02/linux-foundation-greenwashing-and-openwashing-for-microsoft/Nov 21 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Works for Microsoft | TechrightsNov 21 03:09
schestowitzit's disgustingNov 21 03:09
schestowitzbut we should not ignore itNov 21 03:09
schestowitzas leaving that unchallenged is not an optionNov 21 03:09
scientesschestowitz, it comes from WW1 time, when governments lost their credibility because of NGOs offering servicesNov 21 03:10
schestowitzI thought about doing more posts about IBM and work sanitationNov 21 03:10
schestowitzbut it would be mostly repetitive at this stafeNov 21 03:10
schestowitz*stageNov 21 03:10
schestowitzwe can link to prior rebuttals, insteadNov 21 03:10
scientesand after the Tsar went down, they realized things were going to change, and they could either be with the changes, or the changes would happen without themNov 21 03:10
scientesthat is basically the 20th century in a nut-shellNov 21 03:11
schestowitzinterestingNov 21 03:11
schestowitz"UsaiD"Nov 21 03:11
scientesThere are "China Aid" trucks around hereNov 21 03:12
schestowitza lot of people still believe the hegemony mythsNov 21 03:12
scientesToyotasNov 21 03:12
scientes(not joking)Nov 21 03:12
schestowitzas if not being enslaved with the friendly NATO/US would mean CHAOSNov 21 03:12
schestowitzCHina with Japanese brand?Nov 21 03:12
schestowitzChina and Japan are no friendsNov 21 03:12
scientesschestowitz, Islamic State exclusively used ToyotasNov 21 03:13
scientesthe american cars only last 60,000 miles, but those 4-cycles would easily last 300,000 milesNov 21 03:14
scientesmy dad sold one with 280,000 on it for good moneyNov 21 03:14
scientes(might have been 180k)Nov 21 03:14
scientes*toyota 4-strokeNov 21 03:14
scientesand that was before fuel injectionNov 21 03:14
scientesthose small (the new ones are SOOO big) toyota 4-stroke trucks were great. They were very simple.Nov 21 03:15
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scientesschestowitz, if you read the historical National Geographic, I think you will believe those hegemony myths tooNov 21 03:17
scientesstill paid by the Rockefeller FoundationNov 21 03:18
schestowitzjust now Nov 21 03:18
schestowitzhttps://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/11/20/2150236/tech-organizations-back-inclusive-naming-initiativeNov 21 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Tech Organizations Back 'Inclusive Naming Initiative' - SlashdotNov 21 03:18
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/Nov 21 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Let’s Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away People’s Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb ‘in Peace’) | TechrightsNov 21 03:18
schestowitze 1) http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/ 2) http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/Nov 21 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Full Story (With References) of IBM’s Role in a Purge of Black People and Mixed-Race Couples | TechrightsNov 21 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its “Support for the Black Community” | TechrightsNov 21 03:24
schestowitzThe LF participates in PR offensive of those working to sterilise black people https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/19/inclusive_naming_initiative/ Nov 21 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linux Foundation, IBM, Cisco and others back ‘Inclusive Naming Initiative’ to change nasty tech terms • The RegisterNov 21 03:24
schestowitz[03:18] <scientes> still paid by the Rockefeller FoundationNov 21 03:24
schestowitzAlso owned by Rupert Murdoch nowNov 21 03:24
schestowitzas of... maybe 4 years agoNov 21 03:25
scienteswell not a very good magazine anymoreNov 21 03:25
schestowitzgreen-wrapped imperialism propagandaNov 21 03:25
schestowitz"I came for the cute animals"Nov 21 03:25
scientesexactlyNov 21 03:25
schestowitz"stayed for the hegemony" :-)Nov 21 03:25
scientesit didn't use to be like thatNov 21 03:25
schestowitzUS profs and stuffNov 21 03:25
schestowitzglobe-trotting to study and protect animalsNov 21 03:26
schestowitzunlike those 'grubby' localsNov 21 03:26
scientesalthough they do have a National Geographic-branded English-classes franchiseNov 21 03:26
schestowitzstill?Nov 21 03:26
scienteslast February in Costa RicaNov 21 03:26
scientesfebrero pasadǫ en San José, Costa RicoNov 21 03:27
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DaemonFC[m]<scientes "the american cars only last 60,0"> My 2003 Chevy Impala has about 270,000 miles on it.Nov 21 03:36
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scientesDaemonFC[m], I am talking about when those 4-cycle toyotas were being soldNov 21 03:36
scientesthey were the clear quality winnerNov 21 03:37
DaemonFC[m]4 cylinder engines don't typically hold up as well as the bigger ones and they certainly aren't as fun to drive. Nov 21 03:37
scientesbut those wereNov 21 03:37
scientesfuel injection added some efficiency, but the trucks got so much bigger it made no differenceNov 21 03:38
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, some of the Japanese ones are pretty okay.Nov 21 03:38
DaemonFC[m]As a rule, European cars are the worst you can buy.Nov 21 03:38
scientesthose toyotas were all the same engine I believeNov 21 03:38
scientesin the corolla, the camry, and the trucksNov 21 03:38
scientes4RunnerNov 21 03:38
DaemonFC[m]Ford and GM are somewhere in between.Nov 21 03:38
DaemonFC[m]I think that Ford makes pretty good stuff considering.Nov 21 03:39
DaemonFC[m]They certainly know better than to piss off the people who like their trucks by giving them junk.Nov 21 03:39
DaemonFC[m]GM is spiraling totally out of control on quality recently.Nov 21 03:39
scientes"recently"Nov 21 03:39
DaemonFC[m]Not European car bad yet, but pretty bad.Nov 21 03:40
MinceRopel used to be GM :>Nov 21 03:40
scientesDaemonFC[m], ever since the CorvairNov 21 03:40
DaemonFC[m]Just the kind of fucking crap that happens to BMW, VW, and Fiat anything the minute you pull out of the parking lot.Nov 21 03:40
scienteswith inadaquate suspensionNov 21 03:40
DaemonFC[m]And it certainly doesn't get better from there.Nov 21 03:40
scientesand distractingly shiny chromeNov 21 03:40
scientesthat would blind driversNov 21 03:41
DaemonFC[m]Ford's best mainstream cars ever were the Panther platform.Nov 21 03:41
DaemonFC[m]The Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, and Town Car. Nov 21 03:41
DaemonFC[m]It seems like nobody cares about reliability unless they're marketing to rednecks and old people.Nov 21 03:42
MinceRthe japanese still seem to careNov 21 03:44
scientesMinceR, that made me laughNov 21 03:45
scientesI think you are right.Nov 21 03:45
scientesMinceR, it would be a loss of face to not care.Nov 21 03:46
DaemonFC[m]The Koreans seem to just let it blow up on people and try to bribe federal officials to not look into the fires and deaths. (Kia/Hyundai)Nov 21 03:50
DaemonFC[m]That was going well for them under Trump.Nov 21 03:50
DaemonFC[m]It would have been more notable except that it was a good 4 years for white collar criminals overall.Nov 21 03:51
DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/nevada-election-results-republican-challenge/index.htmlNov 21 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nevada judge denies request to halt state certification of election results - CNNPoliticsNov 21 03:52
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/08/20/ibm-race-spin/Nov 21 03:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Never Apologised For Making Billions Out of Overt Racism, Now It Wants to Ban Words Used to Communicate Such Issues and It’s Bombarding Journalists to Seed Misleading Puff Pieces | TechrightsNov 21 03:53
DaemonFC[m]"The case was filed by conservative activist Sharron Angle." The failed Republican Senate candidate from 2012 who suggested repealing Obamacare and paying your doctor with chickens.Nov 21 03:53
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 2000 dead againNov 21 03:53
schestowitzmight be 300+ by xmasNov 21 03:54
schestowitz300kNov 21 03:54
schestowitztotalNov 21 03:54
schestowitzassuming weekends are lessNov 21 03:54
scientesschestowitz, is mass-murder of ~6 million people racism?Nov 21 03:54
scientes*overt racismNov 21 03:54
schestowitznoNov 21 03:54
schestowitzit's businessNov 21 03:54
schestowitzIBM was just providing servicesNov 21 03:54
schestowitzlike GitHub/Microsoft with ICENov 21 03:54
schestowitzand SalesforceNov 21 03:55
schestowitzapparently Amazon works a lot with ICE as well. Palantir is hardly a surprise.Nov 21 03:55
DaemonFC[m]"Wisconsin judge denies Trump campaign's attempt to throw out 60,000 ballots"Nov 21 03:56
schestowitzthere is a pandemicNov 21 03:57
schestowitzpeople want to voteNov 21 03:57
schestowitzthey votedNov 21 03:57
schestowitzthey did their bestNov 21 03:57
schestowitzwhy toss them outNov 21 03:57
schestowitzit's a democracyNov 21 03:57
DaemonFC[m]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/20/trump-meets-michigan-lawmakers-part-challenge-biden-win/6361814002/Nov 21 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Trump meets with Michigan lawmakers as part of challenge to Biden winNov 21 03:57
schestowitzno judge wants his/her name on such a thingNov 21 03:57
DaemonFC[m]The Republican lawmakers said they see no evidence of fraud and will not try to appoint Trump electors for Michigan.Nov 21 03:58
DaemonFC[m]They also asked him for Coronavirus money while they were there.Nov 21 03:58
DaemonFC[m]EPIC TROLLNov 21 03:58
schestowitzthose judges also know Trumpf will be civilian in 2 monthsNov 21 03:58
schestowitzso they're not afraidNov 21 03:58
schestowitzsame for twitter/dorseyNov 21 03:58
schestowitzmaybe twitter will even ban Trumpf next yearNov 21 03:58
DaemonFC[m]I doubt he'll be tweeting much soon.Nov 21 03:58
DaemonFC[m]New York is ready to move on criminal charges.Nov 21 03:59
schestowitzhahaNov 21 03:59
schestowitzwualityNov 21 03:59
schestowitzqualityNov 21 03:59
DaemonFC[m]Unless Giuliani shoves a cell phone up he ass to get to Trump's cell....Nov 21 03:59
schestowitzTrump was always good with "ratings"Nov 21 03:59
DaemonFC[m]*hisNov 21 03:59
schestowitzI bet the Trump trials will get high ratingsNov 21 03:59
schestowitzreality TV show from his jail cell with IvankaNov 21 03:59
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The Manhattan district attorney is moving in on fraud and tax evasion charges.Nov 21 03:59
schestowitzgoodNov 21 04:00
schestowitzabout timeNov 21 04:00
DaemonFC[m]The whole rotten thing is coming down on him.Nov 21 04:00
schestowitzDB loansNov 21 04:00
schestowitzPutin and friends won't pay em offNov 21 04:01
schestowitzand if he stole money through WHNov 21 04:01
schestowitzthen Biden's team will see the balances and transactionsNov 21 04:01
schestowitzonce inside the WHNov 21 04:01
schestowitzit's hard to hide those tracksNov 21 04:01
schestowitzwhen there's a Federal probeNov 21 04:01
schestowitznot with Barr in chargeNov 21 04:01
DaemonFC[m]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michigan-attorney-general-canvassing-board-lawmakers/2020/11/20/87d19ce6-2b65-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.htmlNov 21 04:01
DaemonFC[m]This could be part of the reason why the Republicans told him thanks but no thanks.Nov 21 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Michigan attorney general ponders criminal probes of state and local officials who bend to Trump’s will on overturning election results - The Washington PostNov 21 04:02
DaemonFC[m]They're not going to stick their necks out, watch him lose anyway, and face criminal charges themselves.Nov 21 04:02
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: They're still at it on the radio about "premium mattresses" and shit.Nov 21 04:09
DaemonFC[m]Like, who in this economy, where they have to slash rent 30% in downtown Chicago, is buying a $5,000 mattress?Nov 21 04:09
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I got a brand new king mattress for $200.Nov 21 04:10
DaemonFC[m]Works fine.Nov 21 04:10
DaemonFC[m]I guess there's still some MARISOLs out there until CTCA files bankruptcy.Nov 21 04:11
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19493686Nov 21 04:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "it came from above..." Nuremberg for Trump. #AmericanCarnage #COVID19Nov 21 04:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_fe92e67f9cd2d052becf.jpgNov 21 04:12
schestowitz[04:10] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: I got a brand new king mattress for $200.Nov 21 04:13
schestowitzunlike a laptop, this is worth the priceNov 21 04:13
schestowitzit's your back's healthNov 21 04:13
schestowitz[04:09] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: They're still at it on the radio about "premium mattresses" and shit.Nov 21 04:13
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: CTCA froze pa, cut benefits, cut pension matches, froze hiring, didn't give the Republicans jack shit, started taking government healthcare plans, and is looking for a buyer.Nov 21 04:13
schestowitzor laptopsNov 21 04:13
schestowitza $200 mattress is hardly worse than a $1000 oneNov 21 04:13
schestowitzthe whole "hotel-grade" BSNov 21 04:14
schestowitzyou can even buy used ones from hotals on the cheapNov 21 04:14
schestowitzif you want one used by thousands of couples beforeNov 21 04:14
schestowitzyewtu.be is down for hours now. I wonder why...Nov 21 04:17
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, but good luck ever making off with the expensive mattress if anything happens.Nov 21 04:31
DaemonFC[m]The cheap mattresses seem to sleep fine.Nov 21 04:31
DaemonFC[m]I spent maybe $1,700 furnishing this entire apartment.Nov 21 04:32
DaemonFC[m]The kitchen table with 4 chairs cost me $129 at IKEA.Nov 21 04:33
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Toss it all in there and carve out a day to set it all up.Nov 21 04:34
DaemonFC[m]Saves you a fortune.Nov 21 04:34
DaemonFC[m]My parents got expensive furniture that held up longer than their marriage.Nov 21 04:35
DaemonFC[m]I think my cousin is still using their dining room furniture.Nov 21 04:36
schestowitzwhatever makes you love staying homeNov 21 04:36
schestowitzbtwNov 21 04:36
schestowitzincidentallyNov 21 04:36
schestowitzrianne read the other day about undersupply of housesNov 21 04:37
schestowitzmany flee city apartments nowNov 21 04:37
schestowitzjust just office spacesNov 21 04:37
schestowitzthe "corporate estate" sectorNov 21 04:37
schestowitzthey want larger homesNov 21 04:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Downtown Chicago rent collapse of 30%.Nov 21 04:37
DaemonFC[m]People still aren't biting.Nov 21 04:37
schestowitzrealising they'll spend far more time in themNov 21 04:37
schestowitzso there's a rush for and growing demand for housesNov 21 04:37
DaemonFC[m]Maybe at half what they were charging before. I don't know. Water finds its own level.Nov 21 04:37
schestowitznot sharing doorknobs with possibly ill neighboursNov 21 04:37
schestowitza lot of companies that relied on those things are dead or will dieNov 21 04:38
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, they're fleeing downstate, or out of the state, Roy. It's terrific.Nov 21 04:38
schestowitzrianne's cousin relies on student accomodationNov 21 04:38
schestowitzthose are all empty nowNov 21 04:38
schestowitzand they cannot make a dimeNov 21 04:38
DaemonFC[m]I get cheap rent without all of these fucking assholes bidding it up 30% every year.Nov 21 04:38
schestowitzit's wrong to assume things last forever.Nov 21 04:39
schestowitzthey did not do proper risk analysisNov 21 04:39
schestowitz*accommodationNov 21 04:39
DaemonFC[m]They never do, Roy.Nov 21 04:39
schestowitzwe shut down our company's officeNov 21 04:39
schestowitzback in JulyNov 21 04:39
schestowitzfor goodNov 21 04:39
schestowitzspread around the office assets, like chairs and staffNov 21 04:39
schestowitz*stuffNov 21 04:39
schestowitzthe staff stayedNov 21 04:39
DaemonFC[m]80% of them are Republicans and they figured Trump would sprinkle his magic pixie dust on their portfolio and then they'd ride off into the sunset on a unicorn.Nov 21 04:39
schestowitzexcept the truly incompetent 'manager'Nov 21 04:40
schestowitzwe fired herNov 21 04:40
schestowitzbelatedlyNov 21 04:40
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Mom's landlord is barricaded in his house down in Florida.Nov 21 04:40
schestowitzafter she did lots of damage and brain-drained us by causing people to quitNov 21 04:40
DaemonFC[m]He has a place in a gated community.Nov 21 04:40
DaemonFC[m]Has to have his groceries delivered.Nov 21 04:40
schestowitzah, yesNov 21 04:40
schestowitzI was in Florida twice and 2 days ago I mentioned to Rianne's the gates streetsNov 21 04:41
schestowitzlike, having to pay personal guardsNov 21 04:41
DaemonFC[m]Great place to spend the final years. Trapped in the house because you voted for some dumbass thinking that he'd only fuck immigrants and blacks.Nov 21 04:41
schestowitzsome countries are like that.... it's a big taxNov 21 04:41
schestowitzthankfully we don't need to pay patrols and wallsNov 21 04:41
DaemonFC[m]I commented to Mandy's sister as things were breaking down.Nov 21 04:41
schestowitzcrime like break-ins isn't at zero, but nobody except maybe footballers on the hill would hire a security agencyNov 21 04:41
DaemonFC[m]"Paranoia is a way of life for you people, isn't it?Nov 21 04:42
schestowitzparanoia is a negative slantNov 21 04:42
schestowitzon prudenceNov 21 04:42
DaemonFC[m]Waukegan isn't really that bad. There's crime, but it's not like you need to build a private fortress. Nov 21 04:42
DaemonFC[m]I've never had a break in, and even if I did, it's all insured. Nov 21 04:43
DaemonFC[m]Nobody wants my IKEA coffee table.Nov 21 04:43
DaemonFC[m]So I'm free from having to worry that someone wants the shit I'm spending 60 hours a week accumulating, never home to use, and with security cameras and ring doorbells all over to watch because I'm off making money for payments on stuff I can't use.Nov 21 04:44
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Which means I also don't have to pay for the security alarms, Ring, and cameras. Nov 21 04:45
DaemonFC[m]It pays to just not worry about accumulating stuff.Nov 21 04:45
DaemonFC[m]One day, you look up, the shit is gone.Nov 21 04:46
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't matter how, it's just gone.Nov 21 04:46
DaemonFC[m]And you wasted your life to pay for it.Nov 21 04:46
DaemonFC[m]That's why advertisers are everywhere. They don't want you to realize you're wasting your life.Nov 21 04:47
DaemonFC[m]Maybe you have a bad back because you had to pick up overtime to make more payments on the mattress. Nov 21 04:47
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm liking the stay at home order.Nov 21 04:47
DaemonFC[m]When I go out to drive somewhere, I'm making really good time, and I filled up my gas tank for $1.87 a gallon this evening.Nov 21 04:48
schestowitz[04:47] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: I'm liking the stay at home order.Nov 21 04:49
schestowitzconsider who is harmed by itNov 21 04:49
schestowitzsocialitesNov 21 04:49
schestowitzparty animalsNov 21 04:49
schestowitzpeople who eat ourNov 21 04:49
schestowitzwho can't cookNov 21 04:49
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much.Nov 21 04:49
schestowitzand people who never took contingencies into accountNov 21 04:49
schestowitzwe got a second mat for workoutsNov 21 04:50
schestowitzbecause we work out indoors at homeNov 21 04:50
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Mandy picks up all the hours he wants at work because people are terrified to go into the store.Nov 21 04:50
schestowitzmichigan..Nov 21 04:51
DaemonFC[m]Now, capacity limits are back.Nov 21 04:51
schestowitznot always strictly enforcedNov 21 04:51
schestowitzno Grammy's and stuffNov 21 04:52
schestowitzno boxingNov 21 04:52
schestowitzimagine watching a boxing match without spectators around the ringNov 21 04:52
schestowitzvery anticlimacticNov 21 04:52
schestowitzsame for football to some degreeNov 21 04:52
schestowitzI heard sport viewership is downNov 21 04:52
schestowitznot just the premium viewership where you pay $50 for a searNov 21 04:53
schestowitz*seatNov 21 04:53
schestowitzso people I suppose spend their time on other stuffNov 21 04:53
schestowitzwithout actually spendingNov 21 04:53
schestowitzjust spending /time/Nov 21 04:53
DaemonFC[m]Professional sports have been in the shitter for a lot of reasons.Nov 21 04:55
DaemonFC[m]Including the mjg59 stuff going on.Nov 21 04:55
DaemonFC[m]You know, people who hate their country and make a spectacle of it on TV. Like they ever suffer. They're millionaires. Nov 21 04:55
DaemonFC[m]In the case of NASCAR, tokenism.Nov 21 04:56
DaemonFC[m]https://www.marketwatch.com/story/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-attempt-at-new-criminal-disqualifiers-to-asylum-01605888509Nov 21 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Federal judge blocks Trump administration attempt at new criminal disqualifiers to asylum - MarketWatchNov 21 04:57
DaemonFC[m]https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/federal-judge-strikes-doj-from-the-docket-in-e-jean-carrolls-case-against-donald-trump/Nov 21 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lawandcrime.com | Judge Removes DOJ from Docket in E. Jean Carroll's Case Against Trump | Law & CrimeNov 21 05:00
DaemonFC[m]LOLNov 21 05:00
DaemonFC[m]Ralph the Bus Driver Voted • 5 hours agoNov 21 05:02
DaemonFC[m]Shortly, Trump is going to realize that if he had just remained a New York City land lord he would have been happy. Instead he raised his profile to the highest level possible and tipped off the authorities to all his criminal enterprises. 2021 will not be kind to Donald J. Trump and his spawn.Nov 21 05:02
DaemonFC[m]Well, they knew about all of his crimes already and just never had to do anything about it before.Nov 21 05:03
DaemonFC[m]He's spent years pissing off the Democratic Party, which controls entire states.Nov 21 05:03
DaemonFC[m]He has vendettas, they have vendettas.Nov 21 05:03
DaemonFC[m]Not only do they want revenge and to score points for themselves with voters who hate Trump, but now that all of his crimes are out in the open, if they don't do anything, those same voters will eat them alive.Nov 21 05:04
DaemonFC[m]https://fox4kc.com/news/federal-judge-halts-lisa-montgomerys-execution-after-lawyers-contract-virus/Nov 21 05:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fox4kc.com | Federal judge halts Lisa Montgomery’s execution after lawyers contract virus | FOX 4 Kansas City WDAF-TV | News, Weather, SportsNov 21 05:05
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Trump had been running a rocket docket on federal executions after decades went by without a single one.Nov 21 05:05
DaemonFC[m]He only started doing it in the months leading up to the election.Nov 21 05:05
DaemonFC[m]So he was basically murdering people to show his voters how "tough" he was.Nov 21 05:06
DaemonFC[m]Most of them had been sentenced to death a very long time ago.Nov 21 05:06
DaemonFC[m]There wasn't any pressing reason to do it right away. They didn't pose any threat to the public in prison.Nov 21 05:07
DaemonFC[m]Biden may very well bring back the moratorium, but the Republicans in the Senate and on the Supreme Court are not going to get rid of the law that allows for it.Nov 21 05:08
DaemonFC[m]https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/11/12/federal-judge-tosses-out-trump-campaigns-lawsuit-against-cnn/?sh=754662747557Nov 21 05:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Federal Judge Tosses Out Trump Campaign’s Lawsuit Against CNNNov 21 05:11
DaemonFC[m]"One of the things I'm going to do if I win … I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money,” Trump promised in 2016.Nov 21 05:12
schestowitzSCOTUS is a red herring nowNov 21 05:24
schestowitzgiven prior outcomeNov 21 05:25
schestowitznot even Trump appointees will help himNov 21 05:25
schestowitzas it can get them impeachedNov 21 05:25
schestowitzalso, they don't owe him much anymoreNov 21 05:25
schestowitzhe's a civilian in 2 monthsNov 21 05:25
schestowitzthey can give him the fingerNov 21 05:25
schestowitzand then be praised for going against their "master"Nov 21 05:25
schestowitzthen corporate media like CNN will talk about how those corporate 'plants' or 'moles' "aren't so bad after all"Nov 21 05:26
DaemonFC[m]https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/11/20/937043662/merrick-garland-among-biden-candidates-for-attorney-general-sources-sayNov 21 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Merrick Garland Could Be A Biden Pick For Attorney General, Sources Say : Biden Transition Updates : NPRNov 21 05:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19493907Nov 21 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Merrick Garland should put #trump behind Barr behind bars Nov 21 05:34
schestowitzhttps://gazette.com/sports/klee-with-three-on-broncos-raiders-how-low-can-public-trust-in-media-go/article_765c871a-2506-11eb-94bb-779ecdce2c83.htmlNov 21 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klee with Three on Broncos-Raiders: How low can public trust in media go? | Sports Coverage | gazette.comNov 21 05:42
schestowitz"The people assigned to tell you the truth spent 2020 portraying protests as peaceful when anyone driving down Broadway could see the smashed windows on the state capitol. "Nov 21 05:42
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vZS1Propaganda isn't journalismNov 21 07:50
vZS1I just saw an FSF piece on DRM and demonisation of Netflix. When they openly embrace GitHubNov 21 07:51
vZS1Probably because Microsoft wants a piece of that Netflix cake. If FSF hates DRM do much, why not grill MicrosoftNov 21 07:53
vZS1FSF polluting my Planet GNU feedNov 21 08:02
Ariadne[16:32] <558b2fscientes> do you just lurk in #musl ?Nov 21 08:26
Ariadnescientes: I rarely have anything to say on #muslNov 21 08:26
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schestowitzvZS1: sounds like something figosdev would sayNov 21 09:08
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vZS1schestowitz: I'm taking a little break this weekend from programming. I've been at it for 2 weeks without a break.Nov 21 09:49
vZS1But I've been playing around with IPNS to make it easier to serve dynamic content.Nov 21 09:49
schestowitzI think we're Ok to have a breakNov 21 09:50
schestowitzas things seem stableNov 21 09:50
schestowitztoday we deployed some changed, 4 bugs found, fixedNov 21 09:50
schestowitzafaikNov 21 09:50
schestowitzthe worklow is improved somewhatNov 21 09:50
schestowitzI think we can do 10 posts/day soon, as before...Nov 21 09:51
vZS1My idea is to use IPNS to serve dynamic IPFS content. How it works is that you hash a public key and people just use that to find content linked to that public key. Kind of like how Tor works. Identity-based addressing.Nov 21 09:52
schestowitzthat's over my headNov 21 09:53
vZS1I'll do a write-up for you when I have the timeNov 21 09:54
vZS1Basically, my plan is like thisNov 21 09:54
vZS1I have a simple HTTP server serving just 1 page of IPNS linksNov 21 09:54
vZS1Those IPNS links point to dynamic content on IPFSNov 21 09:54
vZS1So people don't need to parse through indices all the timeNov 21 09:55
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vZS1It eases the load on clientsNov 21 09:58
vZS1Also good for stuff like RSS because people can pull from one static addressNov 21 10:00
vZS1The address the just a pointer. You update the pointer on your node.Nov 21 10:00
vZS1Whenever you make a changeNov 21 10:01
vZS1It's got some good applications for certain use casesNov 21 10:01
schestowitzI still use RSS for clean access, js-freeNov 21 10:02
schestowitzpartial content rss feeds are less usefulNov 21 10:02
schestowitzas they still demand direct site access, sometimes with jsNov 21 10:02
vZS1EwwNov 21 10:02
schestowitzwe're going text only for all thingsNov 21 10:02
vZS1That's a good planNov 21 10:02
schestowitzfor those who don't want to use a browser at allNov 21 10:02
schestowitzbrowsers become evilNov 21 10:02
schestowitztoo much strapped onto themNov 21 10:02
vZS1They already areNov 21 10:02
schestowitzthey're bloat- and even drm-saddledNov 21 10:03
schestowitzthey're basically like proprietary OSesNov 21 10:03
vZS1Don't forget the spywareNov 21 10:03
schestowitzwith blobs for "protected content"Nov 21 10:03
schestowitzI've not even mentioned the privacy aspectNov 21 10:03
schestowitzso those browsers CAN run on bsd and gnu/linuxNov 21 10:03
schestowitzand those 'applications' are more malicious than the hardware and OSNov 21 10:04
schestowitzand they call is "clown" or "web-basedNov 21 10:04
schestowitzcrap like "slack" that's basically a gremlin on your machineNov 21 10:04
schestowitzconfined to a tab, but does all sorts of nasty stuffNov 21 10:04
schestowitzor google enabling your microphone remotely from a 'browser'Nov 21 10:04
vZS1So I'm guessing all the TR RSS items have full content in the <description> element?Nov 21 10:04
schestowitzon Debian even Nov 21 10:04
schestowitzyes, they doNov 21 10:05
schestowitzand that links in to images and attachments like pfsNov 21 10:05
schestowitzpdfsNov 21 10:05
schestowitzso you really don't need to open anythingNov 21 10:05
vZS1Because I actually read TR through my RSS client, instead of a browser.Nov 21 10:05
schestowitzwe can lower server load that wayNov 21 10:05
schestowitzI don't care for "hits", just number of readersNov 21 10:05
schestowitzlike people who take away a large text file and that's itNov 21 10:06
vZS1I'm working on meshing RSS with IPFSNov 21 10:06
schestowitzthat would be goodNov 21 10:06
vZS1That's why I'm writing an RSS library from scratchNov 21 10:06
schestowitzbasically a way to have censorship-resistant user-friendly clientNov 21 10:06
vZS1YepNov 21 10:06
schestowitzthat pulls the 'content' from arbitrary nodesNov 21 10:06
vZS1MhmNov 21 10:06
schestowitzand if the original goes down, then it's equally accessibleNov 21 10:06
vZS1YepNov 21 10:06
vZS1You got itNov 21 10:07
schestowitzrss is already distributedNov 21 10:07
schestowitzcompared to FB/TwitterNov 21 10:07
schestowitzthere's no single masterNov 21 10:07
schestowitzjust many mastersNov 21 10:07
schestowitzand rss connecting to the many mastersNov 21 10:07
vZS1Just making it even more robustNov 21 10:07
schestowitzmany ip addressesNov 21 10:07
vZS1So you don't suffer ddosNov 21 10:07
schestowitzif they're meshing the "content", then it's further complicating throttling, takedowns etc.Nov 21 10:07
schestowitzI'm about to publish 2 internal EPO lettersNov 21 10:08
schestowitzmaybe you want to read quickly to help catch typos?Nov 21 10:08
vZS1SureNov 21 10:08
schestowitzone moNov 21 10:08
schestowitzok, here goes: http://techrights.org/2020/11/21/epo-legal-action/Nov 21 10:09
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schestowitzI've not proofread it yetNov 21 10:09
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vZS1The EPO’s isNov 21 10:11
vZS1The EPO isNov 21 10:11
schestowitzahNov 21 10:12
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vZS1My long-term plan is to create a distributed hub where Free Software people can hang out and work togetherNov 21 10:25
vZS1I'm just building all the infrastructure for it, piece by piece. It will probably take a few years of work but things are going well.Nov 21 10:26
vZS1I've started small and am using the experience from those small wins to feed the bigger plans.Nov 21 10:28
schestowitzyes, we're mixing thingsNov 21 10:28
schestowitzexposing corruptionNov 21 10:28
schestowitztech advocacyNov 21 10:28
schestowitzetc.Nov 21 10:28
schestowitzso we could use any help we can get with hosting, decentralising etc.Nov 21 10:29
schestowitzas that helps us become more useful an outlet for whistleblowers and stuff subjected to takedown/aggression/SLAPP.Nov 21 10:29
schestowitzWe have had our share of threatening lettersNov 21 10:29
schestowitznot yet lawsuits, as they lack an actual case they can winNov 21 10:29
schestowitzand we got some pro bono legal helpNov 21 10:30
vZS1Well. You're not breaking any laws anywayNov 21 10:30
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vZS1Standing up for basic human rights can't really be argued againstNov 21 10:30
vZS1Do the right thing and people will come to help youNov 21 10:31
vZS1We've got to make the game like whack-a-mole. But with billions of moles Nov 21 10:36
vZS1It's doable. The hardware is becoming more affordable.Nov 21 10:37
vZS1There are loads of Rpi clones that target markets in developing countries.Nov 21 10:38
vZS1One of my big guiding assumption is writing code that compiles easily anywhereNov 21 10:38
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vZS1So people can have a dedicated machine running 24/7 and not break the bankNov 21 10:39
vZS1BitTorrent isn't the answer. They're compromised.Nov 21 10:41
schestowitz[10:38] <vZS1> There are loads of Rpi clones that target markets in developing countries.Nov 21 10:41
schestowitzI see this as deterrence strategyNov 21 10:41
vZS1They do their development locked behind Google servicesNov 21 10:41
schestowitzthey would not even bother sending lettersNov 21 10:41
schestowitzif they know the site is a hydraNov 21 10:41
schestowitzlike Wikileaks was once the Obama admin threatens to shut it downNov 21 10:41
schestowitzand about 400 Wikileaks mirrors showed up for cablegateNov 21 10:42
schestowitzafter they took down their AWS instanceNov 21 10:42
vZS1I'm thinking in scale of billions hereNov 21 10:42
schestowitzI can always say, "well, even if I take it down, it's already everywhere. Too late..."Nov 21 10:42
vZS1YepNov 21 10:42
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schestowitzI temporarily did take down one articleNov 21 10:43
schestowitztemporarily = about 2 yearsNov 21 10:43
schestowitzI silently reinstated it laterNov 21 10:43
schestowitzunchangedNov 21 10:43
schestowitzit was about MicrosoftNov 21 10:43
schestowitzan internal leak of damning emailNov 21 10:43
schestowitzcaused some manager to lose his mindNov 21 10:43
schestowitzand he's British, Army backgroundNov 21 10:44
schestowitzso litigation at a personal capacity was possibleNov 21 10:44
vZS1The only way we can maintain freedom of the press is to make sure the operation is a hydraNov 21 10:45
vZS1Press needs to evolveNov 21 10:45
schestowitzwikileaks did thatNov 21 10:46
schestowitzand the "press' said wikileaks was differentNov 21 10:46
schestowitzand that Assange can just rot to death in BelmarshNov 21 10:46
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vZS1Can't really tie it too closely to one individualNov 21 10:47
vZS1That's a weakness in infrastructureNov 21 10:48
vZS1Of the whole operationNov 21 10:48
vZS1Just like what happened with FSF and RMSNov 21 10:49
vZS1Too much on one person's shouldersNov 21 10:49
vZS1And look what happened to the FSF. Castrated and gagged.Nov 21 10:50
vZS1Groklaw. Ditto.Nov 21 10:53
vZS1Too much rhetoric about successors instead of community. Nov 21 10:54
vZS1Community is how we winNov 21 10:55
vZS1Not Foundations and all that crapNov 21 10:55
schestowitzthe issue is no decentralisationNov 21 10:56
schestowitzor successionNov 21 10:56
schestowitzat one point groklaw was left in a red hat handNov 21 10:57
schestowitzMark WebbinkNov 21 10:57
schestowitzibiblio is not committed to the site anymoreNov 21 10:57
schestowitzotherwise they'd fix itNov 21 10:57
schestowitzinstead they went into status mirror modeNov 21 10:57
schestowitzthen it broke, partlyNov 21 10:57
schestowitzthen broke down completely, offlineNov 21 10:57
schestowitzvZS1: can you read the next one also?Nov 21 11:01
schestowitzit's ready nowNov 21 11:01
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vZS1Sure. Link plsNov 21 11:01
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/11/21/epo-for-trump/Nov 21 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Only Real Dialogue the ‘European’ Patent Office is Having… is With Litigation Parasites, Even Foreign Ones | TechrightsNov 21 11:02
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vZS1 but the main if not sole asset of the Office.Nov 21 11:03
vZS1but the main, if not sole, asset of the OfficeNov 21 11:04
schestowitzamendingNov 21 11:04
vZS1So this is who of what the EPO nowadays representsNov 21 11:06
vZS1Sounds a bit offNov 21 11:07
schestowitzyesNov 21 11:11
schestowitz"or"Nov 21 11:11
schestowitzI fixed itNov 21 11:11
schestowitzvZS1: just in: https://blog.torproject.org/node/1957Nov 21 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | From Trac into Gitlab for Tor | Tor BlogNov 21 11:29
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vZS1Self-hosted GitLab is a lot better than GitHub but it isn't the answerNov 21 11:32
vZS1You need about 8 GB of RAM to properly run GitLabNov 21 11:32
schestowitzit's 'community edition' typicallyNov 21 11:32
schestowitzwhich I regard to be proprietaty+openwashing-style marketingNov 21 11:32
vZS1I've maintained production GitLab deployments. I wouldn't use any of these voluntarily Nov 21 11:33
vZS1Git with plain hooks is bestNov 21 11:33
vZS1That way you know exactly what's going onNov 21 11:34
vZS1And have full control and extensibilityNov 21 11:34
vZS1And it's lightweightNov 21 11:34
vZS1GitLab is the monolithic junk we need to break away fromNov 21 11:35
vZS1And GitLab has other issues. Heavy priority to Docker and Kubernetes.Nov 21 11:36
vZS1In their developmentNov 21 11:36
vZS1Not OS-agnostic like GitNov 21 11:36
vZS1GitLab is a cost saving tool for businessesNov 21 11:37
vZS1It's not a solution for hackersNov 21 11:37
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vZS1I've spent months battling GitLab's bugs. They're not pleasant. It also forces workflows onto you.Nov 21 11:39
vZS1But YAML+GUI so businesses love it. Train another monkey to operate it and they're good to go.Nov 21 11:40
schestowitzuntil..Nov 21 11:40
schestowitzthey work ona  project witout GiitlabNov 21 11:41
schestowitzand then they're helplessNov 21 11:41
schestowitzsame with AWSNov 21 11:41
schestowitzmemorising GUIsNov 21 11:41
schestowitznot learning the actual toolsNov 21 11:41
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/Nov 21 11:41
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schestowitz"what are your computer skills"Nov 21 11:41
vZS1That's their own problem for making themselves so disposable.Nov 21 11:41
schestowitzRespondent: AMAZON!Nov 21 11:41
schestowitzwowNov 21 11:41
schestowitzoh wowNov 21 11:41
schestowitzso what if we DON'T use AmazonNov 21 11:42
schestowitzRespondent: Then we MUST MIGRATE TO IT!Nov 21 11:42
schestowitzWell doneNov 21 11:42
schestowitzthat'll be $200,000 per annumNov 21 11:42
schestowitznot for the workerNov 21 11:42
schestowitzfor Bezos lock-inNov 21 11:42
schestowitz[11:33] <vZS1> I've maintained production GitLab deployments. I wouldn't use any of these voluntarily Nov 21 11:43
schestowitzAriadne said the same recentlyNov 21 11:43
schestowitzat one point I thought about running it on our techrights serverNov 21 11:43
schestowitzbut then I did further readingNov 21 11:43
schestowitzand went like, "no f'ing way I'm maintaining THAT shit"Nov 21 11:43
Ariadnei would just stick with something like gitolite for 'personal' git reposNov 21 11:43
Ariadneunless you absolutely need a 'forge', it is a waste of timeNov 21 11:43
schestowitzwhat about gitea/gog?Nov 21 11:44
schestowitzgogs?Nov 21 11:44
vZS1I don't like them eitherNov 21 11:44
Ariadnealpine only run gitlab because it has a team of sysadminsNov 21 11:44
vZS1Undrar m unnecessaryNov 21 11:44
vZS1They are unnecessary*Nov 21 11:44
schestowitzimagine thatNov 21 11:44
schestowitzyou want gitNov 21 11:44
schestowitzyou want devs who use itNov 21 11:44
schestowitzand thenNov 21 11:44
schestowitzyou need a DBA!Nov 21 11:45
schestowitza f-ing DBANov 21 11:45
schestowitzDevSecDBAIOps :-)Nov 21 11:45
schestowitzand all that junkNov 21 11:46
vZS1I do E2E consultationNov 21 11:46
schestowitzwhatever they call it when they sling from the hip with kubernetes kitchen sinks everywhereNov 21 11:46
vZS1Have done all the admin jobsNov 21 11:46
schestowitzeven for a single nodeNov 21 11:46
vZS1sysadmin*Nov 21 11:46
vZS1Bootloader config, custom kernel builds, DBs, virtualization, VCS, security policy design and implementation, etcNov 21 11:48
vZS1You kind of need to know the whole chain to do security properlyNov 21 11:48
schestowitzor... Nov 21 11:48
schestowitzyou could be a sec poserNov 21 11:48
schestowitzwith buzzwords like "infosec"Nov 21 11:48
schestowitzlike "swift on security"Nov 21 11:48
schestowitza Microso\ft boostersNov 21 11:49
schestowitzbasically NSANov 21 11:49
schestowitzput "DevSecOp" or "DevOp" in your profileNov 21 11:49
schestowitzchoose some cryptic name with numbers for lettersNov 21 11:49
schestowitzand act all edgyNov 21 11:49
schestowitznow you can be a "consultant"Nov 21 11:50
vZS1LolNov 21 11:50
schestowitztelling companies to put proprietary KASPERSKY on their Debian boxesNov 21 11:50
schestowitzdon't worry about that cryptic stuff you sniff over the network overnightNov 21 11:50
schestowitzthat's just KASPERSKY working to "keep you safe"Nov 21 11:50
schestowitzremote updates and allNov 21 11:50
schestowitzFrom MoscowNov 21 11:50
vZS1A lot of these DevOps people don't even know how to use tcpdumpNov 21 11:51
vZS1Or infosecNov 21 11:51
schestowitzwhat's tcp?Nov 21 11:51
schestowitzdump?Nov 21 11:51
schestowitzis my girlfriend dumping me?Nov 21 11:51
Ariadneschestowitz: have you considered moving #techrights to matrix?  the new matrix homeserver, dendrite, is actually pleasant to manage from sysadmin perspective.Nov 21 11:51
schestowitzIRC is simplerNov 21 11:52
schestowitzand we have workflows for itNov 21 11:52
schestowitzI heard bad things about MatrixNov 21 11:52
schestowitzfrom the perspective of managing it, not using itNov 21 11:52
vZS1IRC does the jobNov 21 11:52
Ariadneyeah, dendrite is honestly a gamechanger there :PNov 21 11:52
vZS1Why bother with something elseNov 21 11:52
schestowitzI used IRC when I got my first modemNov 21 11:53
schestowitzspoke to some Dutch dudeNov 21 11:53
schestowitzfirst time I chatted overseas over a dial-up modemNov 21 11:53
schestowitzDALNet, IIRCNov 21 11:53
AriadnevZS1: for one, techrights does not actually control this IRC channel, freenode does.  freenode is less than trustworthy, really.Nov 21 11:53
schestowitzwe don't privately chat over it... and we're publicly loggedNov 21 11:53
schestowitzfor what it's worth, gnu and fsf seem ok with freenode/ircNov 21 11:54
schestowitzand they're a yardstick of putting thought into things, esp. gnuNov 21 11:55
schestowitzmozilla moved from irc to matrixNov 21 11:55
schestowitzI can't say much good about mozilla these daysNov 21 11:55
schestowitzthey even experiments with moving to DISCORD for some projectsNov 21 11:55
schestowitznow discourse, the proprietary discordNov 21 11:55
schestowitzthey recently rebranded "UX"Nov 21 11:56
schestowitzMozilla hired too many cargo cults, who now do damage "in-house"Nov 21 11:56
schestowitzlike fluid UIs that change under your mouse pointersNov 21 11:56
schestowitzand Firefox interfaces that acts like Chrome in a lot of waysNov 21 11:57
schestowitzthunderbird then became the sameNov 21 11:57
schestowitzsettings as tabs, no button to apply changes, removing "http://" etc.Nov 21 11:57
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vZS1I'm working on a lightweight IRC server and client package once I sort some other stuff outNov 21 11:58
vZS1Minimal implementationNov 21 11:58
schestowitzfor us, hard to think of any /practical/ limitation to IRCNov 21 11:59
schestowitzhundreds of applications support itNov 21 11:59
schestowitzwith bash, perl and python code we use on itNov 21 11:59
schestowitzplus botsNov 21 11:59
vZS1Because it was designed to be simple and easy to automateNov 21 11:59
schestowitzif people want to upload images, they can upload them elsewhere, then link to itNov 21 11:59
vZS1IPFSNov 21 11:59
schestowitzDaemonFC[m] links a lot to some matrix instanceNov 21 11:59
vZS1You can just link to IPFSNov 21 11:59
schestowitzthat tooNov 21 12:00
schestowitzif more people used itNov 21 12:00
vZS1It will happen over timeNov 21 12:01
schestowitzthere's a relatively hard entry barrierNov 21 12:01
vZS1Shouldn't stop us from using itNov 21 12:01
schestowitzand steep learning curveNov 21 12:01
schestowitzno matter what YOU tell meNov 21 12:01
schestowitzcause you cannot un-know what you already knowNov 21 12:01
vZS1I never said it was simpleNov 21 12:01
schestowitzI didn't even know about ipfs cat cidNov 21 12:02
schestowitzuntil last weekNov 21 12:02
schestowitzI relies on the site, ipfs.ioNov 21 12:02
schestowitz*reliedNov 21 12:02
vZS1Now you doNov 21 12:02
vZS1And people can ask herNov 21 12:02
vZS1here*Nov 21 12:02
vZS1I'm aroundNov 21 12:02
vZS1You areNov 21 12:02
schestowitzand that also requires joining oneself to the 'botnet'Nov 21 12:02
schestowitzso I cannot do it on my main workstation, I need to sshNov 21 12:02
schestowitzcannot do it over gui with fish:// eitherNov 21 12:03
schestowitzcommand line essential Nov 21 12:03
vZS1There's a web uiNov 21 12:03
vZS1You don't need the command lineNov 21 12:04
vZS1There's also a desktop clientNov 21 12:04
vZS1But that doesn't solve the isolation problem unless you forward X sessionNov 21 12:04
vZS1Web ui you can use just like for qBittorrentNov 21 12:05
vZS1Or TransmissionNov 21 12:05
schestowitz[12:03] <vZS1> There's a web uiNov 21 12:05
schestowitzthen there is a middlemanNov 21 12:05
schestowitzand potential spying by a third partyNov 21 12:06
vZS1Pick your poisonNov 21 12:06
vZS1CLI is the simplest option.Nov 21 12:07
vZS1More people need to be CLI literate. Nov 21 12:07
vZS1Otherwise they can kiss their computing freedom goodbyeNov 21 12:08
vZS1And that's not the same thing as learning how to programNov 21 12:08
vZS1It's a lot simplerNov 21 12:08
vZS1And tbh, more people are CLI literate than ever before Nov 21 12:09
vZS1Look at the Arch userbaseNov 21 12:09
vZS1There are a lot of non-programmer Arch users who are perfectly comfortable with the CLINov 21 12:09
vZS1I don't know how that community works but they did a good job helping users get more control over their computing. A lot of those users came from WindowsNov 21 12:10
vZS1It's not all doom and gloomNov 21 12:11
vZS1We shouldn't perputuate the GIAFAM FUD around CLIs. That's one big reason why they have such a firm grasp on computing.Nov 21 12:12
vZS1perpetuate*Nov 21 12:12
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schestowitz[12:08] <vZS1> Otherwise they can kiss their computing freedom goodbyeNov 21 12:23
schestowitz[12:08] <vZS1> And that's not the same thing as learning how to programNov 21 12:24
schestowitzThose two lines are connectedNov 21 12:24
schestowitzfigdosdev wrote countless articles about thisNov 21 12:24
schestowitzand he'll read these logsNov 21 12:24
schestowitzfor people to exercise more computing freedom we need to teach them very basic programming or cli tricksNov 21 12:24
schestowitznot advancedNov 21 12:24
schestowitzbut basicNov 21 12:24
schestowitznot assembly codeNov 21 12:24
schestowitzthey don't need to know compilers or anythingNov 21 12:24
vZS1I'm going to be writing a free series of periodicals on this Nov 21 12:25
schestowitzbut without having any sort of grip they'll be gaslit by devsNov 21 12:25
vZS1Just basic GNU Bash stuffNov 21 12:25
schestowitzand will never managed to exercise, defend, restore control/autonomyNov 21 12:25
schestowitzautonomyNov 21 12:25
schestowitzthey need to teach in schools,Nov 21 12:25
schestowitzas they did LOGONov 21 12:25
schestowitzthings like tailing a logNov 21 12:25
schestowitztail -fNov 21 12:25
schestowitztail -20Nov 21 12:25
schestowitzand then explain what logs areNov 21 12:25
schestowitzthose are already valuable skillsNov 21 12:26
schestowitzbetter than knowing what error 0xfff0007b in windows isNov 21 12:26
vZS1I'm going to go from `ls` to `cron` to simple GNU Bash scripts.Nov 21 12:26
vZS1This is coming next year. (:Nov 21 12:26
schestowitzat least linux and gnu don't present hex to usersNov 21 12:26
schestowitzbut windows is soooooo much more user-friendlyNov 21 12:26
Ariadnetargeting GNU Bash vs POSIX shell is unwiseNov 21 12:27
schestowitzdear ol' grandpa knows 0xfff0007bNov 21 12:27
schestowitz"ah, that one!"Nov 21 12:27
Ariadnewindows 10 just presents a frowny faceNov 21 12:27
Ariadneand rebootsNov 21 12:27
Ariadnewhat broke?  who knowsNov 21 12:27
schestowitz"something happened... something happened"Nov 21 12:27
schestowitzuser: I KNOW!Nov 21 12:27
schestowitzI can see that!Nov 21 12:27
vZS1If you and fig have topic ideas, feel free to recommend them. I'll cover it all in my periodicalsNov 21 12:27
schestowitzright now I have some topics in mindNov 21 12:28
schestowitz'someone' works onNov 21 12:28
vZS1I'll note them down for laterNov 21 12:28
schestowitzecrpto and ed(1)Nov 21 12:28
schestowitzbut sometimes I have topics I lack time to coverNov 21 12:28
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schestowitzlike the latest bunch o IBM crap Nov 21 12:28
schestowitzconsortium for censorshipNov 21 12:28
vZS1I brought up ed a while agoNov 21 12:29
schestowitzthere's also the OSI job adNov 21 12:29
schestowitzmaybe fig reads thisNov 21 12:29
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schestowitzhttps://opensource.org/executive_directorNov 21 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | OSI Seeks to Hire Executive Director | Open Source InitiativeNov 21 12:29
schestowitzwrite about that oneNov 21 12:29
schestowitzlots I can say aboutNov 21 12:29
schestowitz"Please direct all inquiries to gm@opensource.org."Nov 21 12:29
schestowitzThat's Deb IcazaNov 21 12:29
vZS1I can't do anything on a short timeline as I'm building my distribution pipeline atmNov 21 12:30
schestowitz"provided a home for projects like ClearlyDefined"Nov 21 12:30
schestowitzMicrosoft/ShitHubNov 21 12:30
schestowitzso we do not lack topicNov 21 12:30
schestowitzjust 'manhours'Nov 21 12:30
schestowitzapparently I should say personhoursNov 21 12:30
vZS1That word has son in itNov 21 12:30
vZS1It's sexistNov 21 12:30
schestowitzI have planned for around 2pm another article about email encryptionNov 21 12:31
schestowitzgit is an insultNov 21 12:31
schestowitzas some point outNov 21 12:31
schestowitzso rename githubNov 21 12:31
schestowitzto NicePersonHubNov 21 12:31
schestowitzor somethingNov 21 12:31
schestowitzsorryNov 21 12:31
schestowitznot NicePersonHubNov 21 12:31
schestowitznot NicePerDaughterHubNov 21 12:31
schestowitzthereNov 21 12:31
schestowitzbranding issue ensueNov 21 12:31
schestowitzincluding changeing scriptsNov 21 12:31
schestowitzgrep /s/github/NicePerDaughterHub/Nov 21 12:32
schestowitzand then testNov 21 12:32
schestowitzbecause there are always hacks here and thereNov 21 12:32
schestowitzbut now you'll get more "gits" (a-holes) involved in developmentNov 21 12:32
schestowitzthey will not feel excluded from the communityNov 21 12:32
schestowitzBTW, true story: Nov 21 12:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/09/29/lame-words/Nov 21 12:33
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schestowitzmaybe in your spare time you can write about it tooNov 21 12:33
schestowitzin short, it's confining out languageNov 21 12:33
schestowitzrestricting what we can say about people and companies that oppress usNov 21 12:33
schestowitzMicrosoft is not a stupid companuNov 21 12:33
schestowitzor lame companyNov 21 12:33
schestowitzit's "not nice"Nov 21 12:33
schestowitzCOC-approvedNov 21 12:33
schestowitzthis is absolutely insaneNov 21 12:34
schestowitzoh, shitNov 21 12:34
schestowitzI can't sane insane eitherNov 21 12:34
schestowitzas it might insult the clinically insaneNov 21 12:34
schestowitzwhose code we DEFINITELY wantNov 21 12:34
schestowitzso don't communicate in a way that makes them feel excludedNov 21 12:34
schestowitzno patent/child eitherNov 21 12:34
schestowitzwe want people with no kids and no parents to also contribute codeNov 21 12:34
schestowitzif we have things like "patent node" they'll start sobbing for an hourNov 21 12:35
schestowitzand then shoot the grocer around the blockNov 21 12:35
schestowitzsometimes we come to assume thatNov 21 12:35
schestowitzeither it's about 1) censoring opinionated devs orNov 21 12:35
schestowitz2) trolling us Nov 21 12:36
schestowitzto destroy the communitiesNov 21 12:36
schestowitz3) distract us and divert discussion away from things like ICE and contracts for spying on blacks/protesters/so-called 'anarchists' (what Trump calls people who dislike him)Nov 21 12:36
schestowitzmaybe figosdev will also do more articles on itNov 21 12:36
schestowitzI did about a dozen of more, some memesNov 21 12:37
schestowitzI'm tired of going around in circlesNov 21 12:37
schestowitzand there's always a risk of someone like mjg59 taking some statement out of context to frame the opinionated as intolerantNov 21 12:37
schestowitzwhen in fact these restrictions on speech hurt him as much as everyone elseNov 21 12:37
schestowitzunless his activism and warrior-ship is limited to non-corporationsNov 21 12:38
schestowitzanyhoo, that's me back to writing now...Nov 21 12:38
schestowitz--Nov 21 12:38
vZS1I think I'll begin distribution around Christmas time. I will probably have my pipeline complete by then.Nov 21 12:40
vZS1Right now my pipeline is the priority.Nov 21 12:41
vZS1Can't distribute without a systemNov 21 12:41
schestowitzor audienceNov 21 12:42
schestowitzno reader, no incentive to spend time researching fact-checking, proofreadingNov 21 12:42
schestowitzthat's why so many sites perishNov 21 12:42
schestowitzyou would not prepare a good story for 10 hours only to see it read by 10 peopleNov 21 12:43
schestowitzI see that our ipfs/txt grew from 1022 hits 2 weeks agoNov 21 12:44
schestowitzto 1228 in the past 6 daysNov 21 12:44
schestowitzso about 1400+ for 7 daysNov 21 12:44
schestowitzipfs at 12,368 for 6 daysNov 21 12:45
schestowitztxt at 18114Nov 21 12:45
schestowitzin 6 days, compared to the same in 7 days priorNov 21 12:46
schestowitzthis means more people not read the site this wayNov 21 12:46
schestowitzless pressure on wordpress, db etc.Nov 21 12:46
schestowitzjust a simple file transmissionNov 21 12:46
schestowitz(me just grepping apache logs, nothing privacy-infringing. they all get deleted after 4 weeks, permanently)Nov 21 12:47
vZS1I'm in no rushNov 21 13:14
vZS1I also having paying customers I need to attend toNov 21 13:16
vZS1So I can't exactly do everything at onceNov 21 13:16
vZS1That's not sustainableNov 21 13:17
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vZS1The plaintext stuff has a pretty good chance of being mostly bot trafficNov 21 13:23
vZS1The numbers are quite close to each otherNov 21 13:24
vZS118114 and 12368Nov 21 13:24
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schestowitzI need help reading an articleNov 21 13:30
schestowitzabout software patentsNov 21 13:30
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smnthermes> ‎[08:51:53] ‎Ariadne‎: schestowitz: have you considered moving #techrights to matrix?  the new matrix homeserver, dendrite, is actually pleasant to manage from sysadmin perspective.Nov 21 13:40
smnthermesSadly Element uses ElectronNov 21 13:40
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psydroidthere are other clients such as Gomuks, Spectral and NhekoNov 21 13:51
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smnthermesDoes any client keep up with the main one?Nov 21 13:54
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psydroidI would think they need to keep up with the spec and not with a specific clientNov 21 13:58
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Customize GNOME in Ubuntu 20.04 with this Productive Look • ⒯⒰⒳ ⒨⒜⒞⒣⒤⒩⒠⒮ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144615 [https://pleroma.site/objects/45e73a31-141d-4f3f-888d-a56bb862c128]Nov 21 14:06
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MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7X6YeydgygNov 21 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-POLYBIUS - The Video Game That Doesn't Exist - YouTubeNov 21 14:09
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/6TJ12m5.jpeg   https://i.imgur.com/MV3ex7D.jpgNov 21 14:13
vZS1>  I would think they need to keep up with the spec and not with a specific clientNov 21 14:19
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vZS1Which framework is that? /sNov 21 14:20
Ariadnesmnthermes: spectral seems to keep up pretty well.  nheko is also usableNov 21 14:33
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/698632.jpgNov 21 14:56
schestowitz4chan?Nov 21 15:06
MinceRcould beNov 21 15:08
MinceRit could also be another imageboardNov 21 15:08
vZS1They're pushing Flutter on Ubuntu now. Think it's as competition to Electron.Nov 21 15:13
schestowitzyeah, but they're much of the sameNov 21 15:13
schestowitzI assume similar or same code, as well..Nov 21 15:13
schestowitzvZS1: they're partners with GoogleNov 21 15:13
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139660#comment-25981Nov 21 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical enables Linux desktop app support with Flutter | Tux MachinesNov 21 15:13
schestowitztons of links thereNov 21 15:13
vZS1Almost everything is Flutter or React now. Doubt that front will change any time soon.Nov 21 15:14
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/698686.pngNov 21 15:22
vZS1Truck YardNov 21 15:23
vZS1Sign checks outNov 21 15:23
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MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/705474.jpgNov 21 16:30
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MinceR(no audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/698384.mp4Nov 21 16:48
schestowitzwtf?Nov 21 16:59
schestowitzdid he get the prostate grafted orally?Nov 21 17:00
MinceRnoNov 21 17:02
MinceRit's an exaggerated version of https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IaijutsuPractitioner -- adapted to something other than a weapon :>Nov 21 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Iaijutsu Practitioner - TV TropesNov 21 17:05
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/698280.jpgNov 21 17:13
XRevan86@ believe in yourselfNov 21 17:15
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/vjwnp2.jpgNov 21 17:16
MinceRXRevan86: :>Nov 21 17:17
MinceRbelieve in yourselfNov 21 17:18
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miway?Nov 21 17:24
schestowitz0/Nov 21 17:24
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XRevan86schestowitz: Looks like hoop rolling.Nov 21 17:24
MinceRreminds me of '\0'Nov 21 17:25
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schestowitzthe two together are  a high-fiveNov 21 17:26
MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/14/c1fb6c55d93bc2db.jpgNov 21 17:35
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/canNov 21 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - CanNov 21 18:04
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DaemonFC[m]<smnthermes "Sadly Element uses Electron"> The official app does, but you can run it in a pinned tab on any recent browser.Nov 21 20:56
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schestowitzhttps://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2019-03-10-debian-winding-down/Nov 21 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael.stapelberg.ch | Winding down my Debian involvement - Michael StapelbergNov 21 21:35
schestowitz2019Nov 21 21:35
schestowitzhttps://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2019-09-29-dcs-positional-turbopfor-index/Nov 21 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael.stapelberg.ch | Debian Code Search: positional index, TurboPFor-compressed - Michael StapelbergNov 21 21:35
schestowitzSJVN pushing "MAC" shite now https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-new-m1-macs-make-cutting-edge-machine-learning-workstations/Nov 21 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The new M1 Macs make cutting-edge, machine-learning workstations | ZDNetNov 21 21:36
schestowitzSJVN is bygoneNov 21 21:36
schestowitzand here's all in on the ZDNet "Script"Nov 21 21:36
schestowitzinc. "Microsoft loves Linux"Nov 21 21:36
schestowitzor Linux is "hard"Nov 21 21:36
schestowitzAssimilation completeNov 21 21:36
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DaemonFC[m]The machine learns to grrrrrriiiiiiind along with underclocked obsolete Intel processors and half as much RAM as it needs.Nov 21 22:18
DaemonFC[m]Thus, Mac machine learning.Nov 21 22:18
psydroidit's so predictable because Mac isn't an existential threat to Microsoft whereas GNU/Linux isNov 21 22:27
psydroidso they're latching on to other things that may delay the inevitableNov 21 22:28
DaemonFC[m]The Macs are priced way too high to compete directly with Windows PCs, which are on much better hardware, and aimed at people who are not complete idiots.Nov 21 22:28
schestowitz> that is FUCKING AWESOME!Nov 21 22:34
schestowitz> Nov 21 22:34
schestowitz> schestowitzNov 21 22:34
schestowitz> vZS1: I am waiting for raku to delete githubNov 21 22:34
schestowitz> Nov 21 22:34
schestowitz> schestowitzNov 21 22:34
schestowitz> I discussed this with them this weekNov 21 22:34
schestowitz> Nov 21 22:35
schestowitz> vZS1Nov 21 22:35
schestowitz> They're moving to GitLabNov 21 22:35
schestowitzSome of them partly dispute it, so you know there's still a war on it..Nov 21 22:35
DaemonFC[m]It seems the new Macbook Air models with the M1 do have a lower price point.Nov 21 22:35
psydroidI see Apple as the last of the Unix vendors with the crappiest hardware and software that found a way to survive by selling fashionable consumer devicesNov 21 22:35
DaemonFC[m]But the M1 performance per watt graph is laughable at best.Nov 21 22:36
schestowitz> I asked Tom, he's cool. They mentioned microsoft, they are simply notNov 21 22:37
schestowitz> paying attention to their own advice. This is Tom quoting the url:Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> the Free Software Foundation has updated is Ethical Tech guideNov 21 22:37
schestowitz> check it out hereNov 21 22:37
schestowitz> Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/*Nov 21 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/* )Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> <https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/>*Nov 21 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Ethical Tech | Giving GuideNov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *Nov 21 22:37
psydroidthere is a solid engineering core but it's all in service of selling mediocre products to the massesNov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *"When we allow proprietary software created by Facebook, Amazon, Apple,Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> Microsoft, Google, and countless other companies to handle our basicNov 21 22:37
schestowitz> computing tasks, we put an enormous amount of power in their hands..."**Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *Nov 21 22:37
DaemonFC[m]It's designed to make a small improvement in maximum power consumption vs. Intel's U series (about 6%) look like some major chasm.Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *They forgot to mention GitHub, which some members of the FSF use toNov 21 22:37
schestowitz> develop “Free Software”.**Nov 21 22:37
schestowitz> *Nov 21 22:37
schestowitzEven after Microsoft took over.Nov 21 22:37
schestowitzRe: Something for you to memeNov 21 22:37
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