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DaemonFC[m] | New record. | Nov 21 00:24 |
CrystalMath | i think Ariadne was here longer than me | Nov 21 00:32 |
CrystalMath | i joined during the whole RMS thing | Nov 21 00:32 |
CrystalMath | as i created the channel ##rms | Nov 21 00:32 |
CrystalMath | but i wanted to get better info | Nov 21 00:33 |
CrystalMath | so i joined here to pick up on the news | Nov 21 00:33 |
schestowitz | Ariadne used to be kaniini here | Nov 21 00:40 |
schestowitz | ...'ve her like over a decade online | Nov 21 00:40 |
scientes | schestowitz, ahhhh thank | Nov 21 00:40 |
schestowitz | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, November 20, 2020 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Nov 21 00:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Nov 21 00:41 | |
schestowitz | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Nov 21 00:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Nov 21 00:41 | |
schestowitz | today some new code and workflow in place | Nov 21 00:41 |
scientes | schestowitz, ahahhaahahahaa schestowitz is now Miss Scarlet | Nov 21 00:41 |
schestowitz | so there might be bugs, sometimes likely to have gone wrong, somewhere... | Nov 21 00:41 |
schestowitz | "However, it seems likely that – after the constitutional complaint that was filed in 2017 by patent lawyer Ingve Stjerna – a new constitutional complaint will be filed as soon as the parliamentary procedure is completed, this time by the FFII. Dr. Stjerna has also left open the possibility of filing a new complaint. This could further delay the entry into force of the system, or mean the end of it." | Nov 21 00:44 |
schestowitz | zoobab: | Nov 21 00:45 |
schestowitz | no comments http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/11/20/upca-draft-ratification-bill-to-crucial-legal-committee-german-bundestag/ | Nov 21 00:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | UPCA draft ratification bill to crucial legal committee German Bundestag - Kluwer Patent Blog | Nov 21 00:45 | |
schestowitz | "Early November :-) | Nov 21 00:45 |
schestowitz | Wait till it becomes December | Nov 21 00:45 |
schestowitz | then 2021 | Nov 21 00:45 |
schestowitz | :-) | Nov 21 00:45 |
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schestowitz | zoobab: Bristows writing about itself and referring to itself as a source | Nov 21 00:48 |
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DaemonFC[m] | +196,160 | Nov 21 01:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | Still going. | Nov 21 01:01 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: stop! | Nov 21 01:06 |
schestowitz | fake news | Nov 21 01:06 |
schestowitz | Trump said it was going away | Nov 21 01:06 |
schestowitz | how many of those 200k will be dead in 3-4 weeks? | Nov 21 01:06 |
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DaemonFC[m] | A lot. | Nov 21 01:07 |
schestowitz | 9/11 per day for xmas | Nov 21 01:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | 80,000 was enough to mean 1,400 dead two weeks later. | Nov 21 01:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | Something like that. | Nov 21 01:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | So well over 3,000 a day within 2 weeks. | Nov 21 01:08 |
schestowitz | I read about mobile morgues today | Nov 21 01:09 |
schestowitz | in the US | Nov 21 01:09 |
schestowitz | they don't have place to store the corpses | Nov 21 01:09 |
schestowitz | there's one person in this channel who thinks this is normal | Nov 21 01:09 |
schestowitz | maybe FEMA will step in with its infamous plastic coffins | Nov 21 01:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | Georgia Governor Kemp certified the herd mutiny today. Was visibly aggravated. | Nov 21 01:19 |
schestowitz | thinks of people like cattle | Nov 21 01:24 |
schestowitz | speaks accordingly | Nov 21 01:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | It was my joke. | Nov 21 01:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | A play on herd immunity. | Nov 21 01:24 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Maybe I'll poke fun at my dad with it. | Nov 21 01:25 |
schestowitz | I was gonna say this! | Nov 21 01:25 |
schestowitz | But about your mom! | Nov 21 01:25 |
schestowitz | tell her Donald thinks she's a goat | Nov 21 01:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | Already done. :) | Nov 21 01:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | She was exposed again at work. | Nov 21 01:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | One of the other nurses tested positive and was forced into quarantine. | Nov 21 01:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told her retire early with partial Social Security and her pension from the Catholic church, and take Obamacare for a couple years for like $100 a month until she can get Medicare. | Nov 21 01:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | But nobody listens to me until they have a disaster and then they just get angry because I say it coming and tried to warn them. | Nov 21 01:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Social Security penalizes you for retiring early, and more the earlier you do it, but the upside is you draw it longer, and now, you can get away from this shit and isolate yourself. | Nov 21 01:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Is it worth another $100 theoretical dollars if you wait another year that they're just going to tax anyway? Of course it isn't. | Nov 21 01:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | But that's like, my opinion and stuff. | Nov 21 01:28 |
schestowitz | aaaaaaaarrr llload and savvvvo' golden dawnald will save the day | Nov 21 01:31 |
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schestowitz | [01:26] <DaemonFC[m]> I told her retire early with partial Social Security and her pension from the Catholic church, and take Obamacare for a couple years for like $100 a month until she can get Medicare. | Nov 21 01:34 |
schestowitz | Dawnald was sent by Jesus himself | Nov 21 01:34 |
schestowitz | to save us from the antichrist himself | Nov 21 01:35 |
schestowitz | Hussein Obama :-) | Nov 21 01:35 |
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schestowitz | michael running out of linux stories to cover? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=apple-mac-m1&num=1 | Nov 21 01:53 |
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scientes | Assuming they are telling the truth, IBM's position on facial recognition was ethical, while Amazon's position, while pretending to be ethical, was not ethical at all. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/ibm-quits-facial-recognition-calls-for-federal-regulation-of-police-use/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/technology/amazon-facial-recognition-backlash.html | Nov 21 02:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | IBM asks Congress for police reform, leaves facial recognition business | Ars Technica | Nov 21 02:54 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Amazon Puts Moratorium on Facial Recognition Software by Police - The New York Times | Nov 21 02:54 | |
schestowitz | it's face-saving PR, scientes | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | because they got caught | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | then negative press | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | now they'll point to a press release | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | saying they had stopped | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | there are caveats | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | agencies they still provide it it | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | *to | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | or providing by proxy | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | so it boils down to corporate boardroom doublespeak | Nov 21 03:00 |
schestowitz | scientes: typical | Nov 21 03:01 |
schestowitz | the media plays along "with the script" | Nov 21 03:01 |
scientes | schestowitz, but if you eyes are open, its face-losing PR | Nov 21 03:02 |
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scientes | schestowitz, typical | Nov 21 03:03 |
schestowitz | scientes: we did some articles about this | Nov 21 03:03 |
schestowitz | I can find some | Nov 21 03:03 |
scientes | South Park does it too | Nov 21 03:03 |
schestowitz | also memes | Nov 21 03:03 |
scientes | the consistent message of "opposite day" | Nov 21 03:03 |
schestowitz | ah | Nov 21 03:05 |
schestowitz | Microsoft fights for developers | Nov 21 03:05 |
schestowitz | says github | Nov 21 03:05 |
scientes | IBM's PR, *if* is to be believed, is actually the ethical position | Nov 21 03:05 |
schestowitz | fights for them to be imprisoned by github | Nov 21 03:05 |
scientes | no different from Microsoft's blog post about the youtube-dl take-down | Nov 21 03:05 |
scientes | which is patently rediculous | Nov 21 03:06 |
schestowitz | scientes: IBM is now fighter against racism | Nov 21 03:06 |
schestowitz | they even sent a PR agency to tell me about it | Nov 21 03:06 |
schestowitz | a new campaign called emb(RACE) | Nov 21 03:06 |
schestowitz | enough to confuse some people | Nov 21 03:06 |
schestowitz | who might have seen Hitler/Watson photo ops | Nov 21 03:06 |
scientes | <schestowitz> enough to confuse some people | Nov 21 03:06 |
scientes | ^^^^^ | Nov 21 03:06 |
schestowitz | mixed messages | Nov 21 03:06 |
scientes | if you can't lie to people, confuse them | Nov 21 03:06 |
schestowitz | people will find the "balance" | Nov 21 03:06 |
schestowitz | it's somewhere "in between" | Nov 21 03:07 |
schestowitz | scientes: this is where techrights come handy | Nov 21 03:07 |
schestowitz | IBM also misuses feminism | Nov 21 03:07 |
scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tsIxNci_dE | Nov 21 03:07 |
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schestowitz | we did some article to show abuse of women by the most prominent IBMers | Nov 21 03:07 |
schestowitz | they have big budget | Nov 21 03:07 |
schestowitz | but history (or facts) are still not on their side | Nov 21 03:08 |
schestowitz | so you persist with the truth | Nov 21 03:08 |
schestowitz | expounding again and again against their budget and corrupt 'journalists' | Nov 21 03:08 |
schestowitz | they waste money | Nov 21 03:08 |
schestowitz | until it's not worth it anymore | Nov 21 03:08 |
schestowitz | the whole "Corporate Responsibility" thing is now new, only the term is | Nov 21 03:09 |
schestowitz | also greenwash e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/09/02/linux-foundation-greenwashing-and-openwashing-for-microsoft/ | Nov 21 03:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Works for Microsoft | Techrights | Nov 21 03:09 | |
schestowitz | it's disgusting | Nov 21 03:09 |
schestowitz | but we should not ignore it | Nov 21 03:09 |
schestowitz | as leaving that unchallenged is not an option | Nov 21 03:09 |
scientes | schestowitz, it comes from WW1 time, when governments lost their credibility because of NGOs offering services | Nov 21 03:10 |
schestowitz | I thought about doing more posts about IBM and work sanitation | Nov 21 03:10 |
schestowitz | but it would be mostly repetitive at this stafe | Nov 21 03:10 |
schestowitz | *stage | Nov 21 03:10 |
schestowitz | we can link to prior rebuttals, instead | Nov 21 03:10 |
scientes | and after the Tsar went down, they realized things were going to change, and they could either be with the changes, or the changes would happen without them | Nov 21 03:10 |
scientes | that is basically the 20th century in a nut-shell | Nov 21 03:11 |
schestowitz | interesting | Nov 21 03:11 |
schestowitz | "UsaiD" | Nov 21 03:11 |
scientes | There are "China Aid" trucks around here | Nov 21 03:12 |
schestowitz | a lot of people still believe the hegemony myths | Nov 21 03:12 |
scientes | Toyotas | Nov 21 03:12 |
scientes | (not joking) | Nov 21 03:12 |
schestowitz | as if not being enslaved with the friendly NATO/US would mean CHAOS | Nov 21 03:12 |
schestowitz | CHina with Japanese brand? | Nov 21 03:12 |
schestowitz | China and Japan are no friends | Nov 21 03:12 |
scientes | schestowitz, Islamic State exclusively used Toyotas | Nov 21 03:13 |
scientes | the american cars only last 60,000 miles, but those 4-cycles would easily last 300,000 miles | Nov 21 03:14 |
scientes | my dad sold one with 280,000 on it for good money | Nov 21 03:14 |
scientes | (might have been 180k) | Nov 21 03:14 |
scientes | *toyota 4-stroke | Nov 21 03:14 |
scientes | and that was before fuel injection | Nov 21 03:14 |
scientes | those small (the new ones are SOOO big) toyota 4-stroke trucks were great. They were very simple. | Nov 21 03:15 |
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scientes | schestowitz, if you read the historical National Geographic, I think you will believe those hegemony myths too | Nov 21 03:17 |
scientes | still paid by the Rockefeller Foundation | Nov 21 03:18 |
schestowitz | just now | Nov 21 03:18 |
schestowitz | https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/11/20/2150236/tech-organizations-back-inclusive-naming-initiative | Nov 21 03:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Tech Organizations Back 'Inclusive Naming Initiative' - Slashdot | Nov 21 03:18 | |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/ | Nov 21 03:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Let’s Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away People’s Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb ‘in Peace’) | Techrights | Nov 21 03:18 | |
schestowitz | e 1) http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/ 2) http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ | Nov 21 03:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Full Story (With References) of IBM’s Role in a Purge of Black People and Mixed-Race Couples | Techrights | Nov 21 03:24 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its “Support for the Black Community” | Techrights | Nov 21 03:24 | |
schestowitz | The LF participates in PR offensive of those working to sterilise black people https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/19/inclusive_naming_initiative/ | Nov 21 03:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linux Foundation, IBM, Cisco and others back ‘Inclusive Naming Initiative’ to change nasty tech terms • The Register | Nov 21 03:24 | |
schestowitz | [03:18] <scientes> still paid by the Rockefeller Foundation | Nov 21 03:24 |
schestowitz | Also owned by Rupert Murdoch now | Nov 21 03:24 |
schestowitz | as of... maybe 4 years ago | Nov 21 03:25 |
scientes | well not a very good magazine anymore | Nov 21 03:25 |
schestowitz | green-wrapped imperialism propaganda | Nov 21 03:25 |
schestowitz | "I came for the cute animals" | Nov 21 03:25 |
scientes | exactly | Nov 21 03:25 |
schestowitz | "stayed for the hegemony" :-) | Nov 21 03:25 |
scientes | it didn't use to be like that | Nov 21 03:25 |
schestowitz | US profs and stuff | Nov 21 03:25 |
schestowitz | globe-trotting to study and protect animals | Nov 21 03:26 |
schestowitz | unlike those 'grubby' locals | Nov 21 03:26 |
scientes | although they do have a National Geographic-branded English-classes franchise | Nov 21 03:26 |
schestowitz | still? | Nov 21 03:26 |
scientes | last February in Costa Rica | Nov 21 03:26 |
scientes | febrero pasadǫ en San José, Costa Rico | Nov 21 03:27 |
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DaemonFC[m] | <scientes "the american cars only last 60,0"> My 2003 Chevy Impala has about 270,000 miles on it. | Nov 21 03:36 |
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scientes | DaemonFC[m], I am talking about when those 4-cycle toyotas were being sold | Nov 21 03:36 |
scientes | they were the clear quality winner | Nov 21 03:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | 4 cylinder engines don't typically hold up as well as the bigger ones and they certainly aren't as fun to drive. | Nov 21 03:37 |
scientes | but those were | Nov 21 03:37 |
scientes | fuel injection added some efficiency, but the trucks got so much bigger it made no difference | Nov 21 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, some of the Japanese ones are pretty okay. | Nov 21 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | As a rule, European cars are the worst you can buy. | Nov 21 03:38 |
scientes | those toyotas were all the same engine I believe | Nov 21 03:38 |
scientes | in the corolla, the camry, and the trucks | Nov 21 03:38 |
scientes | 4Runner | Nov 21 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ford and GM are somewhere in between. | Nov 21 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think that Ford makes pretty good stuff considering. | Nov 21 03:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | They certainly know better than to piss off the people who like their trucks by giving them junk. | Nov 21 03:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | GM is spiraling totally out of control on quality recently. | Nov 21 03:39 |
scientes | "recently" | Nov 21 03:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | Not European car bad yet, but pretty bad. | Nov 21 03:40 |
MinceR | opel used to be GM :> | Nov 21 03:40 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], ever since the Corvair | Nov 21 03:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | Just the kind of fucking crap that happens to BMW, VW, and Fiat anything the minute you pull out of the parking lot. | Nov 21 03:40 |
scientes | with inadaquate suspension | Nov 21 03:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | And it certainly doesn't get better from there. | Nov 21 03:40 |
scientes | and distractingly shiny chrome | Nov 21 03:40 |
scientes | that would blind drivers | Nov 21 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ford's best mainstream cars ever were the Panther platform. | Nov 21 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, and Town Car. | Nov 21 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | It seems like nobody cares about reliability unless they're marketing to rednecks and old people. | Nov 21 03:42 |
MinceR | the japanese still seem to care | Nov 21 03:44 |
scientes | MinceR, that made me laugh | Nov 21 03:45 |
scientes | I think you are right. | Nov 21 03:45 |
scientes | MinceR, it would be a loss of face to not care. | Nov 21 03:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Koreans seem to just let it blow up on people and try to bribe federal officials to not look into the fires and deaths. (Kia/Hyundai) | Nov 21 03:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | That was going well for them under Trump. | Nov 21 03:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | It would have been more notable except that it was a good 4 years for white collar criminals overall. | Nov 21 03:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/nevada-election-results-republican-challenge/index.html | Nov 21 03:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nevada judge denies request to halt state certification of election results - CNNPolitics | Nov 21 03:52 | |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/ibm-race-spin/ | Nov 21 03:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Never Apologised For Making Billions Out of Overt Racism, Now It Wants to Ban Words Used to Communicate Such Issues and It’s Bombarding Journalists to Seed Misleading Puff Pieces | Techrights | Nov 21 03:53 | |
DaemonFC[m] | "The case was filed by conservative activist Sharron Angle." The failed Republican Senate candidate from 2012 who suggested repealing Obamacare and paying your doctor with chickens. | Nov 21 03:53 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 2000 dead again | Nov 21 03:53 |
schestowitz | might be 300+ by xmas | Nov 21 03:54 |
schestowitz | 300k | Nov 21 03:54 |
schestowitz | total | Nov 21 03:54 |
schestowitz | assuming weekends are less | Nov 21 03:54 |
scientes | schestowitz, is mass-murder of ~6 million people racism? | Nov 21 03:54 |
scientes | *overt racism | Nov 21 03:54 |
schestowitz | no | Nov 21 03:54 |
schestowitz | it's business | Nov 21 03:54 |
schestowitz | IBM was just providing services | Nov 21 03:54 |
schestowitz | like GitHub/Microsoft with ICE | Nov 21 03:54 |
schestowitz | and Salesforce | Nov 21 03:55 |
schestowitz | apparently Amazon works a lot with ICE as well. Palantir is hardly a surprise. | Nov 21 03:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Wisconsin judge denies Trump campaign's attempt to throw out 60,000 ballots" | Nov 21 03:56 |
schestowitz | there is a pandemic | Nov 21 03:57 |
schestowitz | people want to vote | Nov 21 03:57 |
schestowitz | they voted | Nov 21 03:57 |
schestowitz | they did their best | Nov 21 03:57 |
schestowitz | why toss them out | Nov 21 03:57 |
schestowitz | it's a democracy | Nov 21 03:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/20/trump-meets-michigan-lawmakers-part-challenge-biden-win/6361814002/ | Nov 21 03:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Trump meets with Michigan lawmakers as part of challenge to Biden win | Nov 21 03:57 | |
schestowitz | no judge wants his/her name on such a thing | Nov 21 03:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Republican lawmakers said they see no evidence of fraud and will not try to appoint Trump electors for Michigan. | Nov 21 03:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | They also asked him for Coronavirus money while they were there. | Nov 21 03:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | EPIC TROLL | Nov 21 03:58 |
schestowitz | those judges also know Trumpf will be civilian in 2 months | Nov 21 03:58 |
schestowitz | so they're not afraid | Nov 21 03:58 |
schestowitz | same for twitter/dorsey | Nov 21 03:58 |
schestowitz | maybe twitter will even ban Trumpf next year | Nov 21 03:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | I doubt he'll be tweeting much soon. | Nov 21 03:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | New York is ready to move on criminal charges. | Nov 21 03:59 |
schestowitz | haha | Nov 21 03:59 |
schestowitz | wuality | Nov 21 03:59 |
schestowitz | quality | Nov 21 03:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | Unless Giuliani shoves a cell phone up he ass to get to Trump's cell.... | Nov 21 03:59 |
schestowitz | Trump was always good with "ratings" | Nov 21 03:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | *his | Nov 21 03:59 |
schestowitz | I bet the Trump trials will get high ratings | Nov 21 03:59 |
schestowitz | reality TV show from his jail cell with Ivanka | Nov 21 03:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The Manhattan district attorney is moving in on fraud and tax evasion charges. | Nov 21 03:59 |
schestowitz | good | Nov 21 04:00 |
schestowitz | about time | Nov 21 04:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | The whole rotten thing is coming down on him. | Nov 21 04:00 |
schestowitz | DB loans | Nov 21 04:00 |
schestowitz | Putin and friends won't pay em off | Nov 21 04:01 |
schestowitz | and if he stole money through WH | Nov 21 04:01 |
schestowitz | then Biden's team will see the balances and transactions | Nov 21 04:01 |
schestowitz | once inside the WH | Nov 21 04:01 |
schestowitz | it's hard to hide those tracks | Nov 21 04:01 |
schestowitz | when there's a Federal probe | Nov 21 04:01 |
schestowitz | not with Barr in charge | Nov 21 04:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michigan-attorney-general-canvassing-board-lawmakers/2020/11/20/87d19ce6-2b65-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html | Nov 21 04:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | This could be part of the reason why the Republicans told him thanks but no thanks. | Nov 21 04:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Michigan attorney general ponders criminal probes of state and local officials who bend to Trump’s will on overturning election results - The Washington Post | Nov 21 04:02 | |
DaemonFC[m] | They're not going to stick their necks out, watch him lose anyway, and face criminal charges themselves. | Nov 21 04:02 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: They're still at it on the radio about "premium mattresses" and shit. | Nov 21 04:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, who in this economy, where they have to slash rent 30% in downtown Chicago, is buying a $5,000 mattress? | Nov 21 04:09 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I got a brand new king mattress for $200. | Nov 21 04:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | Works fine. | Nov 21 04:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | I guess there's still some MARISOLs out there until CTCA files bankruptcy. | Nov 21 04:11 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19493686 | Nov 21 04:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "it came from above..." Nuremberg for Trump. #AmericanCarnage #COVID19 | Nov 21 04:12 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_fe92e67f9cd2d052becf.jpg | Nov 21 04:12 | |
schestowitz | [04:10] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: I got a brand new king mattress for $200. | Nov 21 04:13 |
schestowitz | unlike a laptop, this is worth the price | Nov 21 04:13 |
schestowitz | it's your back's health | Nov 21 04:13 |
schestowitz | [04:09] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: They're still at it on the radio about "premium mattresses" and shit. | Nov 21 04:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: CTCA froze pa, cut benefits, cut pension matches, froze hiring, didn't give the Republicans jack shit, started taking government healthcare plans, and is looking for a buyer. | Nov 21 04:13 |
schestowitz | or laptops | Nov 21 04:13 |
schestowitz | a $200 mattress is hardly worse than a $1000 one | Nov 21 04:13 |
schestowitz | the whole "hotel-grade" BS | Nov 21 04:14 |
schestowitz | you can even buy used ones from hotals on the cheap | Nov 21 04:14 |
schestowitz | if you want one used by thousands of couples before | Nov 21 04:14 |
schestowitz | yewtu.be is down for hours now. I wonder why... | Nov 21 04:17 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, but good luck ever making off with the expensive mattress if anything happens. | Nov 21 04:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | The cheap mattresses seem to sleep fine. | Nov 21 04:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | I spent maybe $1,700 furnishing this entire apartment. | Nov 21 04:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | The kitchen table with 4 chairs cost me $129 at IKEA. | Nov 21 04:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Toss it all in there and carve out a day to set it all up. | Nov 21 04:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Saves you a fortune. | Nov 21 04:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | My parents got expensive furniture that held up longer than their marriage. | Nov 21 04:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think my cousin is still using their dining room furniture. | Nov 21 04:36 |
schestowitz | whatever makes you love staying home | Nov 21 04:36 |
schestowitz | btw | Nov 21 04:36 |
schestowitz | incidentally | Nov 21 04:36 |
schestowitz | rianne read the other day about undersupply of houses | Nov 21 04:37 |
schestowitz | many flee city apartments now | Nov 21 04:37 |
schestowitz | just just office spaces | Nov 21 04:37 |
schestowitz | the "corporate estate" sector | Nov 21 04:37 |
schestowitz | they want larger homes | Nov 21 04:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Downtown Chicago rent collapse of 30%. | Nov 21 04:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | People still aren't biting. | Nov 21 04:37 |
schestowitz | realising they'll spend far more time in them | Nov 21 04:37 |
schestowitz | so there's a rush for and growing demand for houses | Nov 21 04:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maybe at half what they were charging before. I don't know. Water finds its own level. | Nov 21 04:37 |
schestowitz | not sharing doorknobs with possibly ill neighbours | Nov 21 04:37 |
schestowitz | a lot of companies that relied on those things are dead or will die | Nov 21 04:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they're fleeing downstate, or out of the state, Roy. It's terrific. | Nov 21 04:38 |
schestowitz | rianne's cousin relies on student accomodation | Nov 21 04:38 |
schestowitz | those are all empty now | Nov 21 04:38 |
schestowitz | and they cannot make a dime | Nov 21 04:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | I get cheap rent without all of these fucking assholes bidding it up 30% every year. | Nov 21 04:38 |
schestowitz | it's wrong to assume things last forever. | Nov 21 04:39 |
schestowitz | they did not do proper risk analysis | Nov 21 04:39 |
schestowitz | *accommodation | Nov 21 04:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | They never do, Roy. | Nov 21 04:39 |
schestowitz | we shut down our company's office | Nov 21 04:39 |
schestowitz | back in July | Nov 21 04:39 |
schestowitz | for good | Nov 21 04:39 |
schestowitz | spread around the office assets, like chairs and staff | Nov 21 04:39 |
schestowitz | *stuff | Nov 21 04:39 |
schestowitz | the staff stayed | Nov 21 04:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | 80% of them are Republicans and they figured Trump would sprinkle his magic pixie dust on their portfolio and then they'd ride off into the sunset on a unicorn. | Nov 21 04:39 |
schestowitz | except the truly incompetent 'manager' | Nov 21 04:40 |
schestowitz | we fired her | Nov 21 04:40 |
schestowitz | belatedly | Nov 21 04:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mom's landlord is barricaded in his house down in Florida. | Nov 21 04:40 |
schestowitz | after she did lots of damage and brain-drained us by causing people to quit | Nov 21 04:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | He has a place in a gated community. | Nov 21 04:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | Has to have his groceries delivered. | Nov 21 04:40 |
schestowitz | ah, yes | Nov 21 04:40 |
schestowitz | I was in Florida twice and 2 days ago I mentioned to Rianne's the gates streets | Nov 21 04:41 |
schestowitz | like, having to pay personal guards | Nov 21 04:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | Great place to spend the final years. Trapped in the house because you voted for some dumbass thinking that he'd only fuck immigrants and blacks. | Nov 21 04:41 |
schestowitz | some countries are like that.... it's a big tax | Nov 21 04:41 |
schestowitz | thankfully we don't need to pay patrols and walls | Nov 21 04:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | I commented to Mandy's sister as things were breaking down. | Nov 21 04:41 |
schestowitz | crime like break-ins isn't at zero, but nobody except maybe footballers on the hill would hire a security agency | Nov 21 04:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Paranoia is a way of life for you people, isn't it? | Nov 21 04:42 |
schestowitz | paranoia is a negative slant | Nov 21 04:42 |
schestowitz | on prudence | Nov 21 04:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Waukegan isn't really that bad. There's crime, but it's not like you need to build a private fortress. | Nov 21 04:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | I've never had a break in, and even if I did, it's all insured. | Nov 21 04:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | Nobody wants my IKEA coffee table. | Nov 21 04:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I'm free from having to worry that someone wants the shit I'm spending 60 hours a week accumulating, never home to use, and with security cameras and ring doorbells all over to watch because I'm off making money for payments on stuff I can't use. | Nov 21 04:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Which means I also don't have to pay for the security alarms, Ring, and cameras. | Nov 21 04:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | It pays to just not worry about accumulating stuff. | Nov 21 04:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | One day, you look up, the shit is gone. | Nov 21 04:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't matter how, it's just gone. | Nov 21 04:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | And you wasted your life to pay for it. | Nov 21 04:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's why advertisers are everywhere. They don't want you to realize you're wasting your life. | Nov 21 04:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maybe you have a bad back because you had to pick up overtime to make more payments on the mattress. | Nov 21 04:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm liking the stay at home order. | Nov 21 04:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | When I go out to drive somewhere, I'm making really good time, and I filled up my gas tank for $1.87 a gallon this evening. | Nov 21 04:48 |
schestowitz | [04:47] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: I'm liking the stay at home order. | Nov 21 04:49 |
schestowitz | consider who is harmed by it | Nov 21 04:49 |
schestowitz | socialites | Nov 21 04:49 |
schestowitz | party animals | Nov 21 04:49 |
schestowitz | people who eat our | Nov 21 04:49 |
schestowitz | who can't cook | Nov 21 04:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much. | Nov 21 04:49 |
schestowitz | and people who never took contingencies into account | Nov 21 04:49 |
schestowitz | we got a second mat for workouts | Nov 21 04:50 |
schestowitz | because we work out indoors at home | Nov 21 04:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mandy picks up all the hours he wants at work because people are terrified to go into the store. | Nov 21 04:50 |
schestowitz | michigan.. | Nov 21 04:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Now, capacity limits are back. | Nov 21 04:51 |
schestowitz | not always strictly enforced | Nov 21 04:51 |
schestowitz | no Grammy's and stuff | Nov 21 04:52 |
schestowitz | no boxing | Nov 21 04:52 |
schestowitz | imagine watching a boxing match without spectators around the ring | Nov 21 04:52 |
schestowitz | very anticlimactic | Nov 21 04:52 |
schestowitz | same for football to some degree | Nov 21 04:52 |
schestowitz | I heard sport viewership is down | Nov 21 04:52 |
schestowitz | not just the premium viewership where you pay $50 for a sear | Nov 21 04:53 |
schestowitz | *seat | Nov 21 04:53 |
schestowitz | so people I suppose spend their time on other stuff | Nov 21 04:53 |
schestowitz | without actually spending | Nov 21 04:53 |
schestowitz | just spending /time/ | Nov 21 04:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | Professional sports have been in the shitter for a lot of reasons. | Nov 21 04:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Including the mjg59 stuff going on. | Nov 21 04:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | You know, people who hate their country and make a spectacle of it on TV. Like they ever suffer. They're millionaires. | Nov 21 04:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | In the case of NASCAR, tokenism. | Nov 21 04:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.marketwatch.com/story/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-attempt-at-new-criminal-disqualifiers-to-asylum-01605888509 | Nov 21 04:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Federal judge blocks Trump administration attempt at new criminal disqualifiers to asylum - MarketWatch | Nov 21 04:57 | |
DaemonFC[m] | https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/federal-judge-strikes-doj-from-the-docket-in-e-jean-carrolls-case-against-donald-trump/ | Nov 21 05:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lawandcrime.com | Judge Removes DOJ from Docket in E. Jean Carroll's Case Against Trump | Law & Crime | Nov 21 05:00 | |
DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Nov 21 05:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ralph the Bus Driver Voted • 5 hours ago | Nov 21 05:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Shortly, Trump is going to realize that if he had just remained a New York City land lord he would have been happy. Instead he raised his profile to the highest level possible and tipped off the authorities to all his criminal enterprises. 2021 will not be kind to Donald J. Trump and his spawn. | Nov 21 05:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, they knew about all of his crimes already and just never had to do anything about it before. | Nov 21 05:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | He's spent years pissing off the Democratic Party, which controls entire states. | Nov 21 05:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | He has vendettas, they have vendettas. | Nov 21 05:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | Not only do they want revenge and to score points for themselves with voters who hate Trump, but now that all of his crimes are out in the open, if they don't do anything, those same voters will eat them alive. | Nov 21 05:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://fox4kc.com/news/federal-judge-halts-lisa-montgomerys-execution-after-lawyers-contract-virus/ | Nov 21 05:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fox4kc.com | Federal judge halts Lisa Montgomery’s execution after lawyers contract virus | FOX 4 Kansas City WDAF-TV | News, Weather, Sports | Nov 21 05:05 | |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Trump had been running a rocket docket on federal executions after decades went by without a single one. | Nov 21 05:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | He only started doing it in the months leading up to the election. | Nov 21 05:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | So he was basically murdering people to show his voters how "tough" he was. | Nov 21 05:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Most of them had been sentenced to death a very long time ago. | Nov 21 05:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | There wasn't any pressing reason to do it right away. They didn't pose any threat to the public in prison. | Nov 21 05:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | Biden may very well bring back the moratorium, but the Republicans in the Senate and on the Supreme Court are not going to get rid of the law that allows for it. | Nov 21 05:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/11/12/federal-judge-tosses-out-trump-campaigns-lawsuit-against-cnn/?sh=754662747557 | Nov 21 05:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Federal Judge Tosses Out Trump Campaign’s Lawsuit Against CNN | Nov 21 05:11 | |
DaemonFC[m] | "One of the things I'm going to do if I win … I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money,” Trump promised in 2016. | Nov 21 05:12 |
schestowitz | SCOTUS is a red herring now | Nov 21 05:24 |
schestowitz | given prior outcome | Nov 21 05:25 |
schestowitz | not even Trump appointees will help him | Nov 21 05:25 |
schestowitz | as it can get them impeached | Nov 21 05:25 |
schestowitz | also, they don't owe him much anymore | Nov 21 05:25 |
schestowitz | he's a civilian in 2 months | Nov 21 05:25 |
schestowitz | they can give him the finger | Nov 21 05:25 |
schestowitz | and then be praised for going against their "master" | Nov 21 05:25 |
schestowitz | then corporate media like CNN will talk about how those corporate 'plants' or 'moles' "aren't so bad after all" | Nov 21 05:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/11/20/937043662/merrick-garland-among-biden-candidates-for-attorney-general-sources-say | Nov 21 05:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Merrick Garland Could Be A Biden Pick For Attorney General, Sources Say : Biden Transition Updates : NPR | Nov 21 05:30 | |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19493907 | Nov 21 05:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Merrick Garland should put #trump behind Barr behind bars | Nov 21 05:34 | |
schestowitz | https://gazette.com/sports/klee-with-three-on-broncos-raiders-how-low-can-public-trust-in-media-go/article_765c871a-2506-11eb-94bb-779ecdce2c83.html | Nov 21 05:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klee with Three on Broncos-Raiders: How low can public trust in media go? | Sports Coverage | gazette.com | Nov 21 05:42 | |
schestowitz | "The people assigned to tell you the truth spent 2020 portraying protests as peaceful when anyone driving down Broadway could see the smashed windows on the state capitol. " | Nov 21 05:42 |
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vZS1 | Propaganda isn't journalism | Nov 21 07:50 |
vZS1 | I just saw an FSF piece on DRM and demonisation of Netflix. When they openly embrace GitHub | Nov 21 07:51 |
vZS1 | Probably because Microsoft wants a piece of that Netflix cake. If FSF hates DRM do much, why not grill Microsoft | Nov 21 07:53 |
vZS1 | FSF polluting my Planet GNU feed | Nov 21 08:02 |
Ariadne | [16:32] <558b2fscientes> do you just lurk in #musl ? | Nov 21 08:26 |
Ariadne | scientes: I rarely have anything to say on #musl | Nov 21 08:26 |
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schestowitz | vZS1: sounds like something figosdev would say | Nov 21 09:08 |
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vZS1 | schestowitz: I'm taking a little break this weekend from programming. I've been at it for 2 weeks without a break. | Nov 21 09:49 |
vZS1 | But I've been playing around with IPNS to make it easier to serve dynamic content. | Nov 21 09:49 |
schestowitz | I think we're Ok to have a break | Nov 21 09:50 |
schestowitz | as things seem stable | Nov 21 09:50 |
schestowitz | today we deployed some changed, 4 bugs found, fixed | Nov 21 09:50 |
schestowitz | afaik | Nov 21 09:50 |
schestowitz | the worklow is improved somewhat | Nov 21 09:50 |
schestowitz | I think we can do 10 posts/day soon, as before... | Nov 21 09:51 |
vZS1 | My idea is to use IPNS to serve dynamic IPFS content. How it works is that you hash a public key and people just use that to find content linked to that public key. Kind of like how Tor works. Identity-based addressing. | Nov 21 09:52 |
schestowitz | that's over my head | Nov 21 09:53 |
vZS1 | I'll do a write-up for you when I have the time | Nov 21 09:54 |
vZS1 | Basically, my plan is like this | Nov 21 09:54 |
vZS1 | I have a simple HTTP server serving just 1 page of IPNS links | Nov 21 09:54 |
vZS1 | Those IPNS links point to dynamic content on IPFS | Nov 21 09:54 |
vZS1 | So people don't need to parse through indices all the time | Nov 21 09:55 |
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vZS1 | It eases the load on clients | Nov 21 09:58 |
vZS1 | Also good for stuff like RSS because people can pull from one static address | Nov 21 10:00 |
vZS1 | The address the just a pointer. You update the pointer on your node. | Nov 21 10:00 |
vZS1 | Whenever you make a change | Nov 21 10:01 |
vZS1 | It's got some good applications for certain use cases | Nov 21 10:01 |
schestowitz | I still use RSS for clean access, js-free | Nov 21 10:02 |
schestowitz | partial content rss feeds are less useful | Nov 21 10:02 |
schestowitz | as they still demand direct site access, sometimes with js | Nov 21 10:02 |
vZS1 | Eww | Nov 21 10:02 |
schestowitz | we're going text only for all things | Nov 21 10:02 |
vZS1 | That's a good plan | Nov 21 10:02 |
schestowitz | for those who don't want to use a browser at all | Nov 21 10:02 |
schestowitz | browsers become evil | Nov 21 10:02 |
schestowitz | too much strapped onto them | Nov 21 10:02 |
vZS1 | They already are | Nov 21 10:02 |
schestowitz | they're bloat- and even drm-saddled | Nov 21 10:03 |
schestowitz | they're basically like proprietary OSes | Nov 21 10:03 |
vZS1 | Don't forget the spyware | Nov 21 10:03 |
schestowitz | with blobs for "protected content" | Nov 21 10:03 |
schestowitz | I've not even mentioned the privacy aspect | Nov 21 10:03 |
schestowitz | so those browsers CAN run on bsd and gnu/linux | Nov 21 10:03 |
schestowitz | and those 'applications' are more malicious than the hardware and OS | Nov 21 10:04 |
schestowitz | and they call is "clown" or "web-based | Nov 21 10:04 |
schestowitz | crap like "slack" that's basically a gremlin on your machine | Nov 21 10:04 |
schestowitz | confined to a tab, but does all sorts of nasty stuff | Nov 21 10:04 |
schestowitz | or google enabling your microphone remotely from a 'browser' | Nov 21 10:04 |
vZS1 | So I'm guessing all the TR RSS items have full content in the <description> element? | Nov 21 10:04 |
schestowitz | on Debian even | Nov 21 10:04 |
schestowitz | yes, they do | Nov 21 10:05 |
schestowitz | and that links in to images and attachments like pfs | Nov 21 10:05 |
schestowitz | pdfs | Nov 21 10:05 |
schestowitz | so you really don't need to open anything | Nov 21 10:05 |
vZS1 | Because I actually read TR through my RSS client, instead of a browser. | Nov 21 10:05 |
schestowitz | we can lower server load that way | Nov 21 10:05 |
schestowitz | I don't care for "hits", just number of readers | Nov 21 10:05 |
schestowitz | like people who take away a large text file and that's it | Nov 21 10:06 |
vZS1 | I'm working on meshing RSS with IPFS | Nov 21 10:06 |
schestowitz | that would be good | Nov 21 10:06 |
vZS1 | That's why I'm writing an RSS library from scratch | Nov 21 10:06 |
schestowitz | basically a way to have censorship-resistant user-friendly client | Nov 21 10:06 |
vZS1 | Yep | Nov 21 10:06 |
schestowitz | that pulls the 'content' from arbitrary nodes | Nov 21 10:06 |
vZS1 | Mhm | Nov 21 10:06 |
schestowitz | and if the original goes down, then it's equally accessible | Nov 21 10:06 |
vZS1 | Yep | Nov 21 10:06 |
vZS1 | You got it | Nov 21 10:07 |
schestowitz | rss is already distributed | Nov 21 10:07 |
schestowitz | compared to FB/Twitter | Nov 21 10:07 |
schestowitz | there's no single master | Nov 21 10:07 |
schestowitz | just many masters | Nov 21 10:07 |
schestowitz | and rss connecting to the many masters | Nov 21 10:07 |
vZS1 | Just making it even more robust | Nov 21 10:07 |
schestowitz | many ip addresses | Nov 21 10:07 |
vZS1 | So you don't suffer ddos | Nov 21 10:07 |
schestowitz | if they're meshing the "content", then it's further complicating throttling, takedowns etc. | Nov 21 10:07 |
schestowitz | I'm about to publish 2 internal EPO letters | Nov 21 10:08 |
schestowitz | maybe you want to read quickly to help catch typos? | Nov 21 10:08 |
vZS1 | Sure | Nov 21 10:08 |
schestowitz | one mo | Nov 21 10:08 |
schestowitz | ok, here goes: http://techrights.org/2020/11/21/epo-legal-action/ | Nov 21 10:09 |
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schestowitz | I've not proofread it yet | Nov 21 10:09 |
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vZS1 | The EPO’s is | Nov 21 10:11 |
vZS1 | The EPO is | Nov 21 10:11 |
schestowitz | ah | Nov 21 10:12 |
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vZS1 | My long-term plan is to create a distributed hub where Free Software people can hang out and work together | Nov 21 10:25 |
vZS1 | I'm just building all the infrastructure for it, piece by piece. It will probably take a few years of work but things are going well. | Nov 21 10:26 |
vZS1 | I've started small and am using the experience from those small wins to feed the bigger plans. | Nov 21 10:28 |
schestowitz | yes, we're mixing things | Nov 21 10:28 |
schestowitz | exposing corruption | Nov 21 10:28 |
schestowitz | tech advocacy | Nov 21 10:28 |
schestowitz | etc. | Nov 21 10:28 |
schestowitz | so we could use any help we can get with hosting, decentralising etc. | Nov 21 10:29 |
schestowitz | as that helps us become more useful an outlet for whistleblowers and stuff subjected to takedown/aggression/SLAPP. | Nov 21 10:29 |
schestowitz | We have had our share of threatening letters | Nov 21 10:29 |
schestowitz | not yet lawsuits, as they lack an actual case they can win | Nov 21 10:29 |
schestowitz | and we got some pro bono legal help | Nov 21 10:30 |
vZS1 | Well. You're not breaking any laws anyway | Nov 21 10:30 |
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vZS1 | Standing up for basic human rights can't really be argued against | Nov 21 10:30 |
vZS1 | Do the right thing and people will come to help you | Nov 21 10:31 |
vZS1 | We've got to make the game like whack-a-mole. But with billions of moles | Nov 21 10:36 |
vZS1 | It's doable. The hardware is becoming more affordable. | Nov 21 10:37 |
vZS1 | There are loads of Rpi clones that target markets in developing countries. | Nov 21 10:38 |
vZS1 | One of my big guiding assumption is writing code that compiles easily anywhere | Nov 21 10:38 |
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vZS1 | So people can have a dedicated machine running 24/7 and not break the bank | Nov 21 10:39 |
vZS1 | BitTorrent isn't the answer. They're compromised. | Nov 21 10:41 |
schestowitz | [10:38] <vZS1> There are loads of Rpi clones that target markets in developing countries. | Nov 21 10:41 |
schestowitz | I see this as deterrence strategy | Nov 21 10:41 |
vZS1 | They do their development locked behind Google services | Nov 21 10:41 |
schestowitz | they would not even bother sending letters | Nov 21 10:41 |
schestowitz | if they know the site is a hydra | Nov 21 10:41 |
schestowitz | like Wikileaks was once the Obama admin threatens to shut it down | Nov 21 10:41 |
schestowitz | and about 400 Wikileaks mirrors showed up for cablegate | Nov 21 10:42 |
schestowitz | after they took down their AWS instance | Nov 21 10:42 |
vZS1 | I'm thinking in scale of billions here | Nov 21 10:42 |
schestowitz | I can always say, "well, even if I take it down, it's already everywhere. Too late..." | Nov 21 10:42 |
vZS1 | Yep | Nov 21 10:42 |
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schestowitz | I temporarily did take down one article | Nov 21 10:43 |
schestowitz | temporarily = about 2 years | Nov 21 10:43 |
schestowitz | I silently reinstated it later | Nov 21 10:43 |
schestowitz | unchanged | Nov 21 10:43 |
schestowitz | it was about Microsoft | Nov 21 10:43 |
schestowitz | an internal leak of damning email | Nov 21 10:43 |
schestowitz | caused some manager to lose his mind | Nov 21 10:43 |
schestowitz | and he's British, Army background | Nov 21 10:44 |
schestowitz | so litigation at a personal capacity was possible | Nov 21 10:44 |
vZS1 | The only way we can maintain freedom of the press is to make sure the operation is a hydra | Nov 21 10:45 |
vZS1 | Press needs to evolve | Nov 21 10:45 |
schestowitz | wikileaks did that | Nov 21 10:46 |
schestowitz | and the "press' said wikileaks was different | Nov 21 10:46 |
schestowitz | and that Assange can just rot to death in Belmarsh | Nov 21 10:46 |
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vZS1 | Can't really tie it too closely to one individual | Nov 21 10:47 |
vZS1 | That's a weakness in infrastructure | Nov 21 10:48 |
vZS1 | Of the whole operation | Nov 21 10:48 |
vZS1 | Just like what happened with FSF and RMS | Nov 21 10:49 |
vZS1 | Too much on one person's shoulders | Nov 21 10:49 |
vZS1 | And look what happened to the FSF. Castrated and gagged. | Nov 21 10:50 |
vZS1 | Groklaw. Ditto. | Nov 21 10:53 |
vZS1 | Too much rhetoric about successors instead of community. | Nov 21 10:54 |
vZS1 | Community is how we win | Nov 21 10:55 |
vZS1 | Not Foundations and all that crap | Nov 21 10:55 |
schestowitz | the issue is no decentralisation | Nov 21 10:56 |
schestowitz | or succession | Nov 21 10:56 |
schestowitz | at one point groklaw was left in a red hat hand | Nov 21 10:57 |
schestowitz | Mark Webbink | Nov 21 10:57 |
schestowitz | ibiblio is not committed to the site anymore | Nov 21 10:57 |
schestowitz | otherwise they'd fix it | Nov 21 10:57 |
schestowitz | instead they went into status mirror mode | Nov 21 10:57 |
schestowitz | then it broke, partly | Nov 21 10:57 |
schestowitz | then broke down completely, offline | Nov 21 10:57 |
schestowitz | vZS1: can you read the next one also? | Nov 21 11:01 |
schestowitz | it's ready now | Nov 21 11:01 |
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vZS1 | Sure. Link pls | Nov 21 11:01 |
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schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/21/epo-for-trump/ | Nov 21 11:02 |
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vZS1 | but the main if not sole asset of the Office. | Nov 21 11:03 |
vZS1 | but the main, if not sole, asset of the Office | Nov 21 11:04 |
schestowitz | amending | Nov 21 11:04 |
vZS1 | So this is who of what the EPO nowadays represents | Nov 21 11:06 |
vZS1 | Sounds a bit off | Nov 21 11:07 |
schestowitz | yes | Nov 21 11:11 |
schestowitz | "or" | Nov 21 11:11 |
schestowitz | I fixed it | Nov 21 11:11 |
schestowitz | vZS1: just in: https://blog.torproject.org/node/1957 | Nov 21 11:29 |
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vZS1 | Self-hosted GitLab is a lot better than GitHub but it isn't the answer | Nov 21 11:32 |
vZS1 | You need about 8 GB of RAM to properly run GitLab | Nov 21 11:32 |
schestowitz | it's 'community edition' typically | Nov 21 11:32 |
schestowitz | which I regard to be proprietaty+openwashing-style marketing | Nov 21 11:32 |
vZS1 | I've maintained production GitLab deployments. I wouldn't use any of these voluntarily | Nov 21 11:33 |
vZS1 | Git with plain hooks is best | Nov 21 11:33 |
vZS1 | That way you know exactly what's going on | Nov 21 11:34 |
vZS1 | And have full control and extensibility | Nov 21 11:34 |
vZS1 | And it's lightweight | Nov 21 11:34 |
vZS1 | GitLab is the monolithic junk we need to break away from | Nov 21 11:35 |
vZS1 | And GitLab has other issues. Heavy priority to Docker and Kubernetes. | Nov 21 11:36 |
vZS1 | In their development | Nov 21 11:36 |
vZS1 | Not OS-agnostic like Git | Nov 21 11:36 |
vZS1 | GitLab is a cost saving tool for businesses | Nov 21 11:37 |
vZS1 | It's not a solution for hackers | Nov 21 11:37 |
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vZS1 | I've spent months battling GitLab's bugs. They're not pleasant. It also forces workflows onto you. | Nov 21 11:39 |
vZS1 | But YAML+GUI so businesses love it. Train another monkey to operate it and they're good to go. | Nov 21 11:40 |
schestowitz | until.. | Nov 21 11:40 |
schestowitz | they work ona project witout Giitlab | Nov 21 11:41 |
schestowitz | and then they're helpless | Nov 21 11:41 |
schestowitz | same with AWS | Nov 21 11:41 |
schestowitz | memorising GUIs | Nov 21 11:41 |
schestowitz | not learning the actual tools | Nov 21 11:41 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ | Nov 21 11:41 |
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schestowitz | "what are your computer skills" | Nov 21 11:41 |
vZS1 | That's their own problem for making themselves so disposable. | Nov 21 11:41 |
schestowitz | Respondent: AMAZON! | Nov 21 11:41 |
schestowitz | wow | Nov 21 11:41 |
schestowitz | oh wow | Nov 21 11:41 |
schestowitz | so what if we DON'T use Amazon | Nov 21 11:42 |
schestowitz | Respondent: Then we MUST MIGRATE TO IT! | Nov 21 11:42 |
schestowitz | Well done | Nov 21 11:42 |
schestowitz | that'll be $200,000 per annum | Nov 21 11:42 |
schestowitz | not for the worker | Nov 21 11:42 |
schestowitz | for Bezos lock-in | Nov 21 11:42 |
schestowitz | [11:33] <vZS1> I've maintained production GitLab deployments. I wouldn't use any of these voluntarily | Nov 21 11:43 |
schestowitz | Ariadne said the same recently | Nov 21 11:43 |
schestowitz | at one point I thought about running it on our techrights server | Nov 21 11:43 |
schestowitz | but then I did further reading | Nov 21 11:43 |
schestowitz | and went like, "no f'ing way I'm maintaining THAT shit" | Nov 21 11:43 |
Ariadne | i would just stick with something like gitolite for 'personal' git repos | Nov 21 11:43 |
Ariadne | unless you absolutely need a 'forge', it is a waste of time | Nov 21 11:43 |
schestowitz | what about gitea/gog? | Nov 21 11:44 |
schestowitz | gogs? | Nov 21 11:44 |
vZS1 | I don't like them either | Nov 21 11:44 |
Ariadne | alpine only run gitlab because it has a team of sysadmins | Nov 21 11:44 |
vZS1 | Undrar m unnecessary | Nov 21 11:44 |
vZS1 | They are unnecessary* | Nov 21 11:44 |
schestowitz | imagine that | Nov 21 11:44 |
schestowitz | you want git | Nov 21 11:44 |
schestowitz | you want devs who use it | Nov 21 11:44 |
schestowitz | and then | Nov 21 11:44 |
schestowitz | you need a DBA! | Nov 21 11:45 |
schestowitz | a f-ing DBA | Nov 21 11:45 |
schestowitz | DevSecDBAIOps :-) | Nov 21 11:45 |
schestowitz | and all that junk | Nov 21 11:46 |
vZS1 | I do E2E consultation | Nov 21 11:46 |
schestowitz | whatever they call it when they sling from the hip with kubernetes kitchen sinks everywhere | Nov 21 11:46 |
vZS1 | Have done all the admin jobs | Nov 21 11:46 |
schestowitz | even for a single node | Nov 21 11:46 |
vZS1 | sysadmin* | Nov 21 11:46 |
vZS1 | Bootloader config, custom kernel builds, DBs, virtualization, VCS, security policy design and implementation, etc | Nov 21 11:48 |
vZS1 | You kind of need to know the whole chain to do security properly | Nov 21 11:48 |
schestowitz | or... | Nov 21 11:48 |
schestowitz | you could be a sec poser | Nov 21 11:48 |
schestowitz | with buzzwords like "infosec" | Nov 21 11:48 |
schestowitz | like "swift on security" | Nov 21 11:48 |
schestowitz | a Microso\ft boosters | Nov 21 11:49 |
schestowitz | basically NSA | Nov 21 11:49 |
schestowitz | put "DevSecOp" or "DevOp" in your profile | Nov 21 11:49 |
schestowitz | choose some cryptic name with numbers for letters | Nov 21 11:49 |
schestowitz | and act all edgy | Nov 21 11:49 |
schestowitz | now you can be a "consultant" | Nov 21 11:50 |
vZS1 | Lol | Nov 21 11:50 |
schestowitz | telling companies to put proprietary KASPERSKY on their Debian boxes | Nov 21 11:50 |
schestowitz | don't worry about that cryptic stuff you sniff over the network overnight | Nov 21 11:50 |
schestowitz | that's just KASPERSKY working to "keep you safe" | Nov 21 11:50 |
schestowitz | remote updates and all | Nov 21 11:50 |
schestowitz | From Moscow | Nov 21 11:50 |
vZS1 | A lot of these DevOps people don't even know how to use tcpdump | Nov 21 11:51 |
vZS1 | Or infosec | Nov 21 11:51 |
schestowitz | what's tcp? | Nov 21 11:51 |
schestowitz | dump? | Nov 21 11:51 |
schestowitz | is my girlfriend dumping me? | Nov 21 11:51 |
Ariadne | schestowitz: have you considered moving #techrights to matrix? the new matrix homeserver, dendrite, is actually pleasant to manage from sysadmin perspective. | Nov 21 11:51 |
schestowitz | IRC is simpler | Nov 21 11:52 |
schestowitz | and we have workflows for it | Nov 21 11:52 |
schestowitz | I heard bad things about Matrix | Nov 21 11:52 |
schestowitz | from the perspective of managing it, not using it | Nov 21 11:52 |
vZS1 | IRC does the job | Nov 21 11:52 |
Ariadne | yeah, dendrite is honestly a gamechanger there :P | Nov 21 11:52 |
vZS1 | Why bother with something else | Nov 21 11:52 |
schestowitz | I used IRC when I got my first modem | Nov 21 11:53 |
schestowitz | spoke to some Dutch dude | Nov 21 11:53 |
schestowitz | first time I chatted overseas over a dial-up modem | Nov 21 11:53 |
schestowitz | DALNet, IIRC | Nov 21 11:53 |
Ariadne | vZS1: for one, techrights does not actually control this IRC channel, freenode does. freenode is less than trustworthy, really. | Nov 21 11:53 |
schestowitz | we don't privately chat over it... and we're publicly logged | Nov 21 11:53 |
schestowitz | for what it's worth, gnu and fsf seem ok with freenode/irc | Nov 21 11:54 |
schestowitz | and they're a yardstick of putting thought into things, esp. gnu | Nov 21 11:55 |
schestowitz | mozilla moved from irc to matrix | Nov 21 11:55 |
schestowitz | I can't say much good about mozilla these days | Nov 21 11:55 |
schestowitz | they even experiments with moving to DISCORD for some projects | Nov 21 11:55 |
schestowitz | now discourse, the proprietary discord | Nov 21 11:55 |
schestowitz | they recently rebranded "UX" | Nov 21 11:56 |
schestowitz | Mozilla hired too many cargo cults, who now do damage "in-house" | Nov 21 11:56 |
schestowitz | like fluid UIs that change under your mouse pointers | Nov 21 11:56 |
schestowitz | and Firefox interfaces that acts like Chrome in a lot of ways | Nov 21 11:57 |
schestowitz | thunderbird then became the same | Nov 21 11:57 |
schestowitz | settings as tabs, no button to apply changes, removing "http://" etc. | Nov 21 11:57 |
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vZS1 | I'm working on a lightweight IRC server and client package once I sort some other stuff out | Nov 21 11:58 |
vZS1 | Minimal implementation | Nov 21 11:58 |
schestowitz | for us, hard to think of any /practical/ limitation to IRC | Nov 21 11:59 |
schestowitz | hundreds of applications support it | Nov 21 11:59 |
schestowitz | with bash, perl and python code we use on it | Nov 21 11:59 |
schestowitz | plus bots | Nov 21 11:59 |
vZS1 | Because it was designed to be simple and easy to automate | Nov 21 11:59 |
schestowitz | if people want to upload images, they can upload them elsewhere, then link to it | Nov 21 11:59 |
vZS1 | IPFS | Nov 21 11:59 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m] links a lot to some matrix instance | Nov 21 11:59 |
vZS1 | You can just link to IPFS | Nov 21 11:59 |
schestowitz | that too | Nov 21 12:00 |
schestowitz | if more people used it | Nov 21 12:00 |
vZS1 | It will happen over time | Nov 21 12:01 |
schestowitz | there's a relatively hard entry barrier | Nov 21 12:01 |
vZS1 | Shouldn't stop us from using it | Nov 21 12:01 |
schestowitz | and steep learning curve | Nov 21 12:01 |
schestowitz | no matter what YOU tell me | Nov 21 12:01 |
schestowitz | cause you cannot un-know what you already know | Nov 21 12:01 |
vZS1 | I never said it was simple | Nov 21 12:01 |
schestowitz | I didn't even know about ipfs cat cid | Nov 21 12:02 |
schestowitz | until last week | Nov 21 12:02 |
schestowitz | I relies on the site, ipfs.io | Nov 21 12:02 |
schestowitz | *relied | Nov 21 12:02 |
vZS1 | Now you do | Nov 21 12:02 |
vZS1 | And people can ask her | Nov 21 12:02 |
vZS1 | here* | Nov 21 12:02 |
vZS1 | I'm around | Nov 21 12:02 |
vZS1 | You are | Nov 21 12:02 |
schestowitz | and that also requires joining oneself to the 'botnet' | Nov 21 12:02 |
schestowitz | so I cannot do it on my main workstation, I need to ssh | Nov 21 12:02 |
schestowitz | cannot do it over gui with fish:// either | Nov 21 12:03 |
schestowitz | command line essential | Nov 21 12:03 |
vZS1 | There's a web ui | Nov 21 12:03 |
vZS1 | You don't need the command line | Nov 21 12:04 |
vZS1 | There's also a desktop client | Nov 21 12:04 |
vZS1 | But that doesn't solve the isolation problem unless you forward X session | Nov 21 12:04 |
vZS1 | Web ui you can use just like for qBittorrent | Nov 21 12:05 |
vZS1 | Or Transmission | Nov 21 12:05 |
schestowitz | [12:03] <vZS1> There's a web ui | Nov 21 12:05 |
schestowitz | then there is a middleman | Nov 21 12:05 |
schestowitz | and potential spying by a third party | Nov 21 12:06 |
vZS1 | Pick your poison | Nov 21 12:06 |
vZS1 | CLI is the simplest option. | Nov 21 12:07 |
vZS1 | More people need to be CLI literate. | Nov 21 12:07 |
vZS1 | Otherwise they can kiss their computing freedom goodbye | Nov 21 12:08 |
vZS1 | And that's not the same thing as learning how to program | Nov 21 12:08 |
vZS1 | It's a lot simpler | Nov 21 12:08 |
vZS1 | And tbh, more people are CLI literate than ever before | Nov 21 12:09 |
vZS1 | Look at the Arch userbase | Nov 21 12:09 |
vZS1 | There are a lot of non-programmer Arch users who are perfectly comfortable with the CLI | Nov 21 12:09 |
vZS1 | I don't know how that community works but they did a good job helping users get more control over their computing. A lot of those users came from Windows | Nov 21 12:10 |
vZS1 | It's not all doom and gloom | Nov 21 12:11 |
vZS1 | We shouldn't perputuate the GIAFAM FUD around CLIs. That's one big reason why they have such a firm grasp on computing. | Nov 21 12:12 |
vZS1 | perpetuate* | Nov 21 12:12 |
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schestowitz | [12:08] <vZS1> Otherwise they can kiss their computing freedom goodbye | Nov 21 12:23 |
schestowitz | [12:08] <vZS1> And that's not the same thing as learning how to program | Nov 21 12:24 |
schestowitz | Those two lines are connected | Nov 21 12:24 |
schestowitz | figdosdev wrote countless articles about this | Nov 21 12:24 |
schestowitz | and he'll read these logs | Nov 21 12:24 |
schestowitz | for people to exercise more computing freedom we need to teach them very basic programming or cli tricks | Nov 21 12:24 |
schestowitz | not advanced | Nov 21 12:24 |
schestowitz | but basic | Nov 21 12:24 |
schestowitz | not assembly code | Nov 21 12:24 |
schestowitz | they don't need to know compilers or anything | Nov 21 12:24 |
vZS1 | I'm going to be writing a free series of periodicals on this | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | but without having any sort of grip they'll be gaslit by devs | Nov 21 12:25 |
vZS1 | Just basic GNU Bash stuff | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | and will never managed to exercise, defend, restore control/autonomy | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | autonomy | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | they need to teach in schools, | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | as they did LOGO | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | things like tailing a log | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | tail -f | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | tail -20 | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | and then explain what logs are | Nov 21 12:25 |
schestowitz | those are already valuable skills | Nov 21 12:26 |
schestowitz | better than knowing what error 0xfff0007b in windows is | Nov 21 12:26 |
vZS1 | I'm going to go from `ls` to `cron` to simple GNU Bash scripts. | Nov 21 12:26 |
vZS1 | This is coming next year. (: | Nov 21 12:26 |
schestowitz | at least linux and gnu don't present hex to users | Nov 21 12:26 |
schestowitz | but windows is soooooo much more user-friendly | Nov 21 12:26 |
Ariadne | targeting GNU Bash vs POSIX shell is unwise | Nov 21 12:27 |
schestowitz | dear ol' grandpa knows 0xfff0007b | Nov 21 12:27 |
schestowitz | "ah, that one!" | Nov 21 12:27 |
Ariadne | windows 10 just presents a frowny face | Nov 21 12:27 |
Ariadne | and reboots | Nov 21 12:27 |
Ariadne | what broke? who knows | Nov 21 12:27 |
schestowitz | "something happened... something happened" | Nov 21 12:27 |
schestowitz | user: I KNOW! | Nov 21 12:27 |
schestowitz | I can see that! | Nov 21 12:27 |
vZS1 | If you and fig have topic ideas, feel free to recommend them. I'll cover it all in my periodicals | Nov 21 12:27 |
schestowitz | right now I have some topics in mind | Nov 21 12:28 |
schestowitz | 'someone' works on | Nov 21 12:28 |
vZS1 | I'll note them down for later | Nov 21 12:28 |
schestowitz | ecrpto and ed(1) | Nov 21 12:28 |
schestowitz | but sometimes I have topics I lack time to cover | Nov 21 12:28 |
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schestowitz | like the latest bunch o IBM crap | Nov 21 12:28 |
schestowitz | consortium for censorship | Nov 21 12:28 |
vZS1 | I brought up ed a while ago | Nov 21 12:29 |
schestowitz | there's also the OSI job ad | Nov 21 12:29 |
schestowitz | maybe fig reads this | Nov 21 12:29 |
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schestowitz | https://opensource.org/executive_director | Nov 21 12:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | OSI Seeks to Hire Executive Director | Open Source Initiative | Nov 21 12:29 | |
schestowitz | write about that one | Nov 21 12:29 |
schestowitz | lots I can say about | Nov 21 12:29 |
schestowitz | "Please direct all inquiries to gm@opensource.org." | Nov 21 12:29 |
schestowitz | That's Deb Icaza | Nov 21 12:29 |
vZS1 | I can't do anything on a short timeline as I'm building my distribution pipeline atm | Nov 21 12:30 |
schestowitz | "provided a home for projects like ClearlyDefined" | Nov 21 12:30 |
schestowitz | Microsoft/ShitHub | Nov 21 12:30 |
schestowitz | so we do not lack topic | Nov 21 12:30 |
schestowitz | just 'manhours' | Nov 21 12:30 |
schestowitz | apparently I should say personhours | Nov 21 12:30 |
vZS1 | That word has son in it | Nov 21 12:30 |
vZS1 | It's sexist | Nov 21 12:30 |
schestowitz | I have planned for around 2pm another article about email encryption | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | git is an insult | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | as some point out | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | so rename github | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | to NicePersonHub | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | or something | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | sorry | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | not NicePersonHub | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | not NicePerDaughterHub | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | there | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | branding issue ensue | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | including changeing scripts | Nov 21 12:31 |
schestowitz | grep /s/github/NicePerDaughterHub/ | Nov 21 12:32 |
schestowitz | and then test | Nov 21 12:32 |
schestowitz | because there are always hacks here and there | Nov 21 12:32 |
schestowitz | but now you'll get more "gits" (a-holes) involved in development | Nov 21 12:32 |
schestowitz | they will not feel excluded from the community | Nov 21 12:32 |
schestowitz | BTW, true story: | Nov 21 12:32 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/lame-words/ | Nov 21 12:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It’s Crazy Not to Eliminate Lame Words That Might Offend Somebody | Techrights | Nov 21 12:33 | |
schestowitz | maybe in your spare time you can write about it too | Nov 21 12:33 |
schestowitz | in short, it's confining out language | Nov 21 12:33 |
schestowitz | restricting what we can say about people and companies that oppress us | Nov 21 12:33 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is not a stupid companu | Nov 21 12:33 |
schestowitz | or lame company | Nov 21 12:33 |
schestowitz | it's "not nice" | Nov 21 12:33 |
schestowitz | COC-approved | Nov 21 12:33 |
schestowitz | this is absolutely insane | Nov 21 12:34 |
schestowitz | oh, shit | Nov 21 12:34 |
schestowitz | I can't sane insane either | Nov 21 12:34 |
schestowitz | as it might insult the clinically insane | Nov 21 12:34 |
schestowitz | whose code we DEFINITELY want | Nov 21 12:34 |
schestowitz | so don't communicate in a way that makes them feel excluded | Nov 21 12:34 |
schestowitz | no patent/child either | Nov 21 12:34 |
schestowitz | we want people with no kids and no parents to also contribute code | Nov 21 12:34 |
schestowitz | if we have things like "patent node" they'll start sobbing for an hour | Nov 21 12:35 |
schestowitz | and then shoot the grocer around the block | Nov 21 12:35 |
schestowitz | sometimes we come to assume that | Nov 21 12:35 |
schestowitz | either it's about 1) censoring opinionated devs or | Nov 21 12:35 |
schestowitz | 2) trolling us | Nov 21 12:36 |
schestowitz | to destroy the communities | Nov 21 12:36 |
schestowitz | 3) distract us and divert discussion away from things like ICE and contracts for spying on blacks/protesters/so-called 'anarchists' (what Trump calls people who dislike him) | Nov 21 12:36 |
schestowitz | maybe figosdev will also do more articles on it | Nov 21 12:36 |
schestowitz | I did about a dozen of more, some memes | Nov 21 12:37 |
schestowitz | I'm tired of going around in circles | Nov 21 12:37 |
schestowitz | and there's always a risk of someone like mjg59 taking some statement out of context to frame the opinionated as intolerant | Nov 21 12:37 |
schestowitz | when in fact these restrictions on speech hurt him as much as everyone else | Nov 21 12:37 |
schestowitz | unless his activism and warrior-ship is limited to non-corporations | Nov 21 12:38 |
schestowitz | anyhoo, that's me back to writing now... | Nov 21 12:38 |
schestowitz | -- | Nov 21 12:38 |
vZS1 | I think I'll begin distribution around Christmas time. I will probably have my pipeline complete by then. | Nov 21 12:40 |
vZS1 | Right now my pipeline is the priority. | Nov 21 12:41 |
vZS1 | Can't distribute without a system | Nov 21 12:41 |
schestowitz | or audience | Nov 21 12:42 |
schestowitz | no reader, no incentive to spend time researching fact-checking, proofreading | Nov 21 12:42 |
schestowitz | that's why so many sites perish | Nov 21 12:42 |
schestowitz | you would not prepare a good story for 10 hours only to see it read by 10 people | Nov 21 12:43 |
schestowitz | I see that our ipfs/txt grew from 1022 hits 2 weeks ago | Nov 21 12:44 |
schestowitz | to 1228 in the past 6 days | Nov 21 12:44 |
schestowitz | so about 1400+ for 7 days | Nov 21 12:44 |
schestowitz | ipfs at 12,368 for 6 days | Nov 21 12:45 |
schestowitz | txt at 18114 | Nov 21 12:45 |
schestowitz | in 6 days, compared to the same in 7 days prior | Nov 21 12:46 |
schestowitz | this means more people not read the site this way | Nov 21 12:46 |
schestowitz | less pressure on wordpress, db etc. | Nov 21 12:46 |
schestowitz | just a simple file transmission | Nov 21 12:46 |
schestowitz | (me just grepping apache logs, nothing privacy-infringing. they all get deleted after 4 weeks, permanently) | Nov 21 12:47 |
vZS1 | I'm in no rush | Nov 21 13:14 |
vZS1 | I also having paying customers I need to attend to | Nov 21 13:16 |
vZS1 | So I can't exactly do everything at once | Nov 21 13:16 |
vZS1 | That's not sustainable | Nov 21 13:17 |
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vZS1 | The plaintext stuff has a pretty good chance of being mostly bot traffic | Nov 21 13:23 |
vZS1 | The numbers are quite close to each other | Nov 21 13:24 |
vZS1 | 18114 and 12368 | Nov 21 13:24 |
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schestowitz | I need help reading an article | Nov 21 13:30 |
schestowitz | about software patents | Nov 21 13:30 |
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smnthermes | > [08:51:53] Ariadne: schestowitz: have you considered moving #techrights to matrix? the new matrix homeserver, dendrite, is actually pleasant to manage from sysadmin perspective. | Nov 21 13:40 |
smnthermes | Sadly Element uses Electron | Nov 21 13:40 |
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psydroid | there are other clients such as Gomuks, Spectral and Nheko | Nov 21 13:51 |
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smnthermes | Does any client keep up with the main one? | Nov 21 13:54 |
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psydroid | I would think they need to keep up with the spec and not with a specific client | Nov 21 13:58 |
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MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7X6Yeydgyg | Nov 21 14:09 |
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MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/6TJ12m5.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/MV3ex7D.jpg | Nov 21 14:13 |
vZS1 | > I would think they need to keep up with the spec and not with a specific client | Nov 21 14:19 |
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vZS1 | Which framework is that? /s | Nov 21 14:20 |
Ariadne | smnthermes: spectral seems to keep up pretty well. nheko is also usable | Nov 21 14:33 |
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MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/698632.jpg | Nov 21 14:56 |
schestowitz | 4chan? | Nov 21 15:06 |
MinceR | could be | Nov 21 15:08 |
MinceR | it could also be another imageboard | Nov 21 15:08 |
vZS1 | They're pushing Flutter on Ubuntu now. Think it's as competition to Electron. | Nov 21 15:13 |
schestowitz | yeah, but they're much of the same | Nov 21 15:13 |
schestowitz | I assume similar or same code, as well.. | Nov 21 15:13 |
schestowitz | vZS1: they're partners with Google | Nov 21 15:13 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139660#comment-25981 | Nov 21 15:13 |
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schestowitz | tons of links there | Nov 21 15:13 |
vZS1 | Almost everything is Flutter or React now. Doubt that front will change any time soon. | Nov 21 15:14 |
MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/698686.png | Nov 21 15:22 |
vZS1 | Truck Yard | Nov 21 15:23 |
vZS1 | Sign checks out | Nov 21 15:23 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/705474.jpg | Nov 21 16:30 |
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MinceR | (no audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/698384.mp4 | Nov 21 16:48 |
schestowitz | wtf? | Nov 21 16:59 |
schestowitz | did he get the prostate grafted orally? | Nov 21 17:00 |
MinceR | no | Nov 21 17:02 |
MinceR | it's an exaggerated version of https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IaijutsuPractitioner -- adapted to something other than a weapon :> | Nov 21 17:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Iaijutsu Practitioner - TV Tropes | Nov 21 17:05 | |
MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/698280.jpg | Nov 21 17:13 |
XRevan86 | @ believe in yourself | Nov 21 17:15 |
MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/vjwnp2.jpg | Nov 21 17:16 |
MinceR | XRevan86: :> | Nov 21 17:17 |
MinceR | believe in yourself | Nov 21 17:18 |
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miway | ? | Nov 21 17:24 |
schestowitz | 0/ | Nov 21 17:24 |
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XRevan86 | schestowitz: Looks like hoop rolling. | Nov 21 17:24 |
MinceR | reminds me of '\0' | Nov 21 17:25 |
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schestowitz | the two together are a high-five | Nov 21 17:26 |
MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/14/c1fb6c55d93bc2db.jpg | Nov 21 17:35 |
MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/can | Nov 21 18:04 |
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DaemonFC[m] | <smnthermes "Sadly Element uses Electron"> The official app does, but you can run it in a pinned tab on any recent browser. | Nov 21 20:56 |
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schestowitz | https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2019-03-10-debian-winding-down/ | Nov 21 21:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael.stapelberg.ch | Winding down my Debian involvement - Michael Stapelberg | Nov 21 21:35 | |
schestowitz | 2019 | Nov 21 21:35 |
schestowitz | https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2019-09-29-dcs-positional-turbopfor-index/ | Nov 21 21:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael.stapelberg.ch | Debian Code Search: positional index, TurboPFor-compressed - Michael Stapelberg | Nov 21 21:35 | |
schestowitz | SJVN pushing "MAC" shite now https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-new-m1-macs-make-cutting-edge-machine-learning-workstations/ | Nov 21 21:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The new M1 Macs make cutting-edge, machine-learning workstations | ZDNet | Nov 21 21:36 | |
schestowitz | SJVN is bygone | Nov 21 21:36 |
schestowitz | and here's all in on the ZDNet "Script" | Nov 21 21:36 |
schestowitz | inc. "Microsoft loves Linux" | Nov 21 21:36 |
schestowitz | or Linux is "hard" | Nov 21 21:36 |
schestowitz | Assimilation complete | Nov 21 21:36 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The machine learns to grrrrrriiiiiiind along with underclocked obsolete Intel processors and half as much RAM as it needs. | Nov 21 22:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Thus, Mac machine learning. | Nov 21 22:18 |
psydroid | it's so predictable because Mac isn't an existential threat to Microsoft whereas GNU/Linux is | Nov 21 22:27 |
psydroid | so they're latching on to other things that may delay the inevitable | Nov 21 22:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Macs are priced way too high to compete directly with Windows PCs, which are on much better hardware, and aimed at people who are not complete idiots. | Nov 21 22:28 |
schestowitz | > that is FUCKING AWESOME! | Nov 21 22:34 |
schestowitz | > | Nov 21 22:34 |
schestowitz | > schestowitz | Nov 21 22:34 |
schestowitz | > vZS1: I am waiting for raku to delete github | Nov 21 22:34 |
schestowitz | > | Nov 21 22:34 |
schestowitz | > schestowitz | Nov 21 22:34 |
schestowitz | > I discussed this with them this week | Nov 21 22:34 |
schestowitz | > | Nov 21 22:35 |
schestowitz | > vZS1 | Nov 21 22:35 |
schestowitz | > They're moving to GitLab | Nov 21 22:35 |
schestowitz | Some of them partly dispute it, so you know there's still a war on it.. | Nov 21 22:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | It seems the new Macbook Air models with the M1 do have a lower price point. | Nov 21 22:35 |
psydroid | I see Apple as the last of the Unix vendors with the crappiest hardware and software that found a way to survive by selling fashionable consumer devices | Nov 21 22:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | But the M1 performance per watt graph is laughable at best. | Nov 21 22:36 |
schestowitz | > I asked Tom, he's cool. They mentioned microsoft, they are simply not | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > paying attention to their own advice. This is Tom quoting the url: | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > the Free Software Foundation has updated is Ethical Tech guide | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > check it out here | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > *https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/* | Nov 21 22:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/* ) | Nov 21 22:37 | |
schestowitz | > <https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/>* | Nov 21 22:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Ethical Tech | Giving Guide | Nov 21 22:37 | |
schestowitz | > * | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > * | Nov 21 22:37 |
psydroid | there is a solid engineering core but it's all in service of selling mediocre products to the masses | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > * | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > *"When we allow proprietary software created by Facebook, Amazon, Apple, | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > Microsoft, Google, and countless other companies to handle our basic | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > computing tasks, we put an enormous amount of power in their hands..."** | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > * | Nov 21 22:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's designed to make a small improvement in maximum power consumption vs. Intel's U series (about 6%) look like some major chasm. | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > * | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > * | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > *They forgot to mention GitHub, which some members of the FSF use to | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > develop “Free Software”.** | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | > * | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | Even after Microsoft took over. | Nov 21 22:37 |
schestowitz | Re: Something for you to meme | Nov 21 22:37 |
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