●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, November 21, 2020 ●● ● Nov 21 [00:17] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:24] DaemonFC[m] +193,477 [00:24] DaemonFC[m] New record. [00:32] CrystalMath i think Ariadne was here longer than me [00:32] CrystalMath i joined during the whole RMS thing [00:32] CrystalMath as i created the channel ##rms [00:33] CrystalMath but i wanted to get better info [00:33] CrystalMath so i joined here to pick up on the news [00:40] schestowitz Ariadne used to be kaniini here [00:40] schestowitz ...'ve her like over a decade online [00:40] scientes schestowitz, ahhhh thank [00:41] schestowitz #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, November 20, 2020 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [00:41] schestowitz #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [00:41] schestowitz today some new code and workflow in place [00:41] scientes schestowitz, ahahhaahahahaa schestowitz is now Miss Scarlet [00:41] schestowitz so there might be bugs, sometimes likely to have gone wrong, somewhere... [00:44] schestowitz "However, it seems likely that after the constitutional complaint that was filed in 2017 by patent lawyer Ingve Stjerna a new constitutional complaint will be filed as soon as the parliamentary procedure is completed, this time by the FFII. Dr. Stjerna has also left open the possibility of filing a new complaint. This could further delay the entry into force of the system, or mean the end of it." [00:45] schestowitz zoobab: [00:45] schestowitz no comments http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/11/20/upca-draft-ratification-bill-to-crucial-legal-committee-german-bundestag/ [00:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | UPCA draft ratification bill to crucial legal committee German Bundestag - Kluwer Patent Blog [00:45] schestowitz "Early November :-) [00:45] schestowitz Wait till it becomes December [00:45] schestowitz then 2021 [00:45] schestowitz :-) [00:45] *zjmc_ (~jmc@137.63.71.51) has left #techrights [00:48] schestowitz zoobab: Bristows writing about itself and referring to itself as a source [00:52] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [00:59] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Coreboot 4.13 Adds Intel TXT, Picks Up New Boards For AMD Pollock, Intel Alder Lake http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144591#comment-27207 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3c7e89ae-153b-454d-a946-86421157d39f] ● Nov 21 [01:01] DaemonFC[m] +196,160 [01:01] DaemonFC[m] Still going. [01:03] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Garuda Linux Black Eagle Released With A New Dr460nized edition http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144592 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d0125ce2-6ac9-454b-ae1f-09d0d5dbf3cc] [01:04] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top 25 Linux Interview Questions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144593 [https://pleroma.site/objects/96ef2142-12ec-45c4-b97c-9780a401864d] [01:05] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Tinker Board 2 SBC advances to RK3399 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144594 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ac507d48-3e7d-4471-a903-c505f7519377] [01:06] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: stop! [01:06] schestowitz fake news [01:06] schestowitz Trump said it was going away [01:06] schestowitz how many of those 200k will be dead in 3-4 weeks? [01:07] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144595 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cb1ec9c6-cb82-4797-a35f-16ffe4f828ab] [01:07] DaemonFC[m] A lot. [01:07] schestowitz 9/11 per day for xmas [01:07] DaemonFC[m] 80,000 was enough to mean 1,400 dead two weeks later. [01:07] DaemonFC[m] Something like that. [01:08] DaemonFC[m] So well over 3,000 a day within 2 weeks. [01:09] schestowitz I read about mobile morgues today [01:09] schestowitz in the US [01:09] schestowitz they don't have place to store the corpses [01:09] schestowitz there's one person in this channel who thinks this is normal [01:09] schestowitz maybe FEMA will step in with its infamous plastic coffins [01:19] DaemonFC[m] Georgia Governor Kemp certified the herd mutiny today. Was visibly aggravated. [01:24] schestowitz thinks of people like cattle [01:24] schestowitz speaks accordingly [01:24] DaemonFC[m] It was my joke. [01:24] DaemonFC[m] A play on herd immunity. [01:24] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kali Linux 2020.4 overview | By Offensive Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144517#comment-27208 [https://pleroma.site/objects/78675e71-8e55-4daf-81ee-8554846100e5] [01:25] DaemonFC[m] Maybe I'll poke fun at my dad with it. [01:25] schestowitz I was gonna say this! [01:25] schestowitz But about your mom! [01:25] schestowitz tell her Donald thinks she's a goat [01:25] DaemonFC[m] Already done. :) [01:25] DaemonFC[m] She was exposed again at work. [01:26] DaemonFC[m] One of the other nurses tested positive and was forced into quarantine. [01:26] DaemonFC[m] I told her retire early with partial Social Security and her pension from the Catholic church, and take Obamacare for a couple years for like $100 a month until she can get Medicare. [01:27] DaemonFC[m] But nobody listens to me until they have a disaster and then they just get angry because I say it coming and tried to warn them. [01:28] DaemonFC[m] Social Security penalizes you for retiring early, and more the earlier you do it, but the upside is you draw it longer, and now, you can get away from this shit and isolate yourself. [01:28] DaemonFC[m] Is it worth another $100 theoretical dollars if you wait another year that they're just going to tax anyway? Of course it isn't. [01:28] DaemonFC[m] But that's like, my opinion and stuff. [01:31] schestowitz aaaaaaaarrr llload and savvvvo' golden dawnald will save the day [01:34] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Wine 5.22 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144596 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0dc9a95b-e94a-4796-82ac-d07eaaf965ad] [01:34] schestowitz [01:26] I told her retire early with partial Social Security and her pension from the Catholic church, and take Obamacare for a couple years for like $100 a month until she can get Medicare. [01:34] schestowitz Dawnald was sent by Jesus himself [01:35] schestowitz to save us from the antichrist himself [01:35] schestowitz Hussein Obama :-) [01:38] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: EasyOS version 2.5 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144597 [https://pleroma.site/objects/190fda44-9544-43ff-a0c8-783258f050d2] [01:43] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FSF Giving Guide: Its the thought that counts, so think freedom http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144598 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a856ba73-d736-4675-97e3-7c5a64a4e0e8] [01:45] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vjlwewutkgmnxvxr) has joined #techrights [01:53] schestowitz michael running out of linux stories to cover? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=apple-mac-m1&num=1 [01:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple M1 ARM Performance With A 2020 Mac Mini Review - Phoronix [01:55] *timur_demin (~tdemin@2a03:1ac0:6dc3:9367::2) has joined #techrights [01:56] *tdemin has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Nov 21 [02:04] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ymuse GTK front-end (client) for Music Player Daemon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144599 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e4bed104-de60-4616-bf80-dfaca41fa5f9] [02:07] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144600 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a80961bc-14fc-47ad-bfcd-e832a7586dba] [02:09] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux in the Ham Shack and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144601 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e35c4a9c-e157-4e20-88d4-5645554b3acf] [02:11] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: gmusicbrowser Music Player Sees First Release In More Than 5 Years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144599#comment-27209 [https://pleroma.site/objects/acfab3c6-4304-44b9-9270-b15eaf0587f1] [02:15] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Cloud Data Encryptor Cryptomator Adds Experimental FUSE Support On Windows, KWallet Integration http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144602 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ccbccd06-78a5-4231-97ea-89e31b5616bb] [02:25] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144603 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2aff4e2f-f72a-472b-bb06-009f03a9d9a8] [02:28] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IBM/Red Hat/Fedora: Trinity Guard, Flatpak, Fedora Program, OpenShift http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144604 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c118479e-33d7-4dbb-8cdc-101abd35745c] [02:34] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:34] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FSF: IDAD, LibrePlanet, High Priority Projects and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144605 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6a06395f-ea76-4ad4-be7e-ee0922ee01ab] [02:37] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Sugar Learning Tools Part III http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144606 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ae94ac44-78a1-4bdd-bbf4-c32cf054e0d0] [02:54] scientes Assuming they are telling the truth, IBM's position on facial recognition was ethical, while Amazon's position, while pretending to be ethical, was not ethical at all. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/ibm-quits-facial-recognition-calls-for-federal-regulation-of-police-use/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/technology/amazon-facial-recognition-backlash.html [02:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | IBM asks Congress for police reform, leaves facial recognition business | Ars Technica [02:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Amazon Puts Moratorium on Facial Recognition Software by Police - The New York Times ● Nov 21 [03:00] schestowitz it's face-saving PR, scientes [03:00] schestowitz because they got caught [03:00] schestowitz then negative press [03:00] schestowitz now they'll point to a press release [03:00] schestowitz saying they had stopped [03:00] schestowitz there are caveats [03:00] schestowitz agencies they still provide it it [03:00] schestowitz *to [03:00] schestowitz or providing by proxy [03:00] schestowitz so it boils down to corporate boardroom doublespeak [03:01] schestowitz scientes: typical [03:01] schestowitz the media plays along "with the script" [03:02] scientes schestowitz, but if you eyes are open, its face-losing PR [03:02] *tr_guest|49256 (519aad70@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.154.173.112) has joined #techrights [03:03] scientes schestowitz, typical [03:03] schestowitz scientes: we did some articles about this [03:03] schestowitz I can find some [03:03] scientes South Park does it too [03:03] schestowitz also memes [03:03] scientes the consistent message of "opposite day" [03:05] schestowitz ah [03:05] schestowitz Microsoft fights for developers [03:05] schestowitz says github [03:05] scientes IBM's PR, *if* is to be believed, is actually the ethical position [03:05] schestowitz fights for them to be imprisoned by github [03:05] scientes no different from Microsoft's blog post about the youtube-dl take-down [03:06] scientes which is patently rediculous [03:06] schestowitz scientes: IBM is now fighter against racism [03:06] schestowitz they even sent a PR agency to tell me about it [03:06] schestowitz a new campaign called emb(RACE) [03:06] schestowitz enough to confuse some people [03:06] schestowitz who might have seen Hitler/Watson photo ops [03:06] scientes enough to confuse some people [03:06] scientes ^^^^^ [03:06] schestowitz mixed messages [03:06] scientes if you can't lie to people, confuse them [03:06] schestowitz people will find the "balance" [03:07] schestowitz it's somewhere "in between" [03:07] schestowitz scientes: this is where techrights come handy [03:07] schestowitz IBM also misuses feminism [03:07] scientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tsIxNci_dE [03:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Confuse-a-Cat - Monty Python's Flying Circus - S01E05 - YouTube [03:07] schestowitz we did some article to show abuse of women by the most prominent IBMers [03:07] schestowitz they have big budget [03:08] schestowitz but history (or facts) are still not on their side [03:08] schestowitz so you persist with the truth [03:08] schestowitz expounding again and again against their budget and corrupt 'journalists' [03:08] schestowitz they waste money [03:08] schestowitz until it's not worth it anymore [03:09] schestowitz the whole "Corporate Responsibility" thing is now new, only the term is [03:09] schestowitz also greenwash e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/09/02/linux-foundation-greenwashing-and-openwashing-for-microsoft/ [03:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Works for Microsoft | Techrights [03:09] schestowitz it's disgusting [03:09] schestowitz but we should not ignore it [03:09] schestowitz as leaving that unchallenged is not an option [03:10] scientes schestowitz, it comes from WW1 time, when governments lost their credibility because of NGOs offering services [03:10] schestowitz I thought about doing more posts about IBM and work sanitation [03:10] schestowitz but it would be mostly repetitive at this stafe [03:10] schestowitz *stage [03:10] schestowitz we can link to prior rebuttals, instead [03:10] scientes and after the Tsar went down, they realized things were going to change, and they could either be with the changes, or the changes would happen without them [03:11] scientes that is basically the 20th century in a nut-shell [03:11] schestowitz interesting [03:11] schestowitz "UsaiD" [03:12] scientes There are "China Aid" trucks around here [03:12] schestowitz a lot of people still believe the hegemony myths [03:12] scientes Toyotas [03:12] scientes (not joking) [03:12] schestowitz as if not being enslaved with the friendly NATO/US would mean CHAOS [03:12] schestowitz CHina with Japanese brand? [03:12] schestowitz China and Japan are no friends [03:13] scientes schestowitz, Islamic State exclusively used Toyotas [03:14] scientes the american cars only last 60,000 miles, but those 4-cycles would easily last 300,000 miles [03:14] scientes my dad sold one with 280,000 on it for good money [03:14] scientes (might have been 180k) [03:14] scientes *toyota 4-stroke [03:14] scientes and that was before fuel injection [03:15] scientes those small (the new ones are SOOO big) toyota 4-stroke trucks were great. They were very simple. [03:16] *willyg_cos (~willyg_co@96.44.189.195.adsl.inet-telecom.org) has joined #techrights [03:17] scientes schestowitz, if you read the historical National Geographic, I think you will believe those hegemony myths too [03:18] scientes still paid by the Rockefeller Foundation [03:18] schestowitz just now [03:18] schestowitz https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/11/20/2150236/tech-organizations-back-inclusive-naming-initiative [03:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Tech Organizations Back 'Inclusive Naming Initiative' - Slashdot [03:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/ [03:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lets Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away Peoples Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb in Peace) | Techrights [03:23] schestowitz e 1) http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/ 2) http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ [03:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Full Story (With References) of IBMs Role in a Purge of Black People and Mixed-Race Couples | Techrights [03:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights [03:24] schestowitz The LF participates in PR offensive of those working to sterilise black people https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/19/inclusive_naming_initiative/ [03:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linux Foundation, IBM, Cisco and others back Inclusive Naming Initiative to change nasty tech terms The Register [03:24] schestowitz [03:18] still paid by the Rockefeller Foundation [03:24] schestowitz Also owned by Rupert Murdoch now [03:25] schestowitz as of... maybe 4 years ago [03:25] scientes well not a very good magazine anymore [03:25] schestowitz green-wrapped imperialism propaganda [03:25] schestowitz "I came for the cute animals" [03:25] scientes exactly [03:25] schestowitz "stayed for the hegemony" :-) [03:25] scientes it didn't use to be like that [03:25] schestowitz US profs and stuff [03:26] schestowitz globe-trotting to study and protect animals [03:26] schestowitz unlike those 'grubby' locals [03:26] scientes although they do have a National Geographic-branded English-classes franchise [03:26] schestowitz still? [03:26] scientes last February in Costa Rica [03:27] scientes febrero pasad en San Jos, Costa Rico [03:29] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Jean Hollis Weber on LibreOffice http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144607 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4fd313d5-a6fb-4156-b006-6c79b79d12c9] [03:33] *tr_guest|49256 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [03:36] DaemonFC[m] My 2003 Chevy Impala has about 270,000 miles on it. [03:36] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Foundations Windows-Powered Newsletter and Drive to Eliminate Words to Distract From Corporate Crimes Against Humanity http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144608 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f1e10fea-1372-4786-b445-a2e384eab41f] [03:36] scientes DaemonFC[m], I am talking about when those 4-cycle toyotas were being sold [03:37] scientes they were the clear quality winner [03:37] DaemonFC[m] 4 cylinder engines don't typically hold up as well as the bigger ones and they certainly aren't as fun to drive. [03:37] scientes but those were [03:38] scientes fuel injection added some efficiency, but the trucks got so much bigger it made no difference [03:38] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, some of the Japanese ones are pretty okay. [03:38] DaemonFC[m] As a rule, European cars are the worst you can buy. [03:38] scientes those toyotas were all the same engine I believe [03:38] scientes in the corolla, the camry, and the trucks [03:38] scientes 4Runner [03:38] DaemonFC[m] Ford and GM are somewhere in between. [03:39] DaemonFC[m] I think that Ford makes pretty good stuff considering. [03:39] DaemonFC[m] They certainly know better than to piss off the people who like their trucks by giving them junk. [03:39] DaemonFC[m] GM is spiraling totally out of control on quality recently. [03:39] scientes "recently" [03:40] DaemonFC[m] Not European car bad yet, but pretty bad. [03:40] MinceR opel used to be GM :> [03:40] scientes DaemonFC[m], ever since the Corvair [03:40] DaemonFC[m] Just the kind of fucking crap that happens to BMW, VW, and Fiat anything the minute you pull out of the parking lot. [03:40] scientes with inadaquate suspension [03:40] DaemonFC[m] And it certainly doesn't get better from there. [03:40] scientes and distractingly shiny chrome [03:41] scientes that would blind drivers [03:41] DaemonFC[m] Ford's best mainstream cars ever were the Panther platform. [03:41] DaemonFC[m] The Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, and Town Car. [03:42] DaemonFC[m] It seems like nobody cares about reliability unless they're marketing to rednecks and old people. [03:44] MinceR the japanese still seem to care [03:45] scientes MinceR, that made me laugh [03:45] scientes I think you are right. [03:46] scientes MinceR, it would be a loss of face to not care. [03:50] DaemonFC[m] The Koreans seem to just let it blow up on people and try to bribe federal officials to not look into the fires and deaths. (Kia/Hyundai) [03:50] DaemonFC[m] That was going well for them under Trump. [03:51] DaemonFC[m] It would have been more notable except that it was a good 4 years for white collar criminals overall. [03:52] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/nevada-election-results-republican-challenge/index.html [03:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nevada judge denies request to halt state certification of election results - CNNPolitics [03:53] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/ibm-race-spin/ [03:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Never Apologised For Making Billions Out of Overt Racism, Now It Wants to Ban Words Used to Communicate Such Issues and Its Bombarding Journalists to Seed Misleading Puff Pieces | Techrights [03:53] DaemonFC[m] "The case was filed by conservative activist Sharron Angle." The failed Republican Senate candidate from 2012 who suggested repealing Obamacare and paying your doctor with chickens. [03:53] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: 2000 dead again [03:54] schestowitz might be 300+ by xmas [03:54] schestowitz 300k [03:54] schestowitz total [03:54] schestowitz assuming weekends are less [03:54] scientes schestowitz, is mass-murder of ~6 million people racism? [03:54] scientes *overt racism [03:54] schestowitz no [03:54] schestowitz it's business [03:54] schestowitz IBM was just providing services [03:54] schestowitz like GitHub/Microsoft with ICE [03:55] schestowitz and Salesforce [03:55] schestowitz apparently Amazon works a lot with ICE as well. Palantir is hardly a surprise. [03:56] DaemonFC[m] "Wisconsin judge denies Trump campaign's attempt to throw out 60,000 ballots" [03:57] schestowitz there is a pandemic [03:57] schestowitz people want to vote [03:57] schestowitz they voted [03:57] schestowitz they did their best [03:57] schestowitz why toss them out [03:57] schestowitz it's a democracy [03:57] DaemonFC[m] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/20/trump-meets-michigan-lawmakers-part-challenge-biden-win/6361814002/ [03:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Trump meets with Michigan lawmakers as part of challenge to Biden win [03:57] schestowitz no judge wants his/her name on such a thing [03:58] DaemonFC[m] The Republican lawmakers said they see no evidence of fraud and will not try to appoint Trump electors for Michigan. [03:58] DaemonFC[m] They also asked him for Coronavirus money while they were there. [03:58] DaemonFC[m] EPIC TROLL [03:58] schestowitz those judges also know Trumpf will be civilian in 2 months [03:58] schestowitz so they're not afraid [03:58] schestowitz same for twitter/dorsey [03:58] schestowitz maybe twitter will even ban Trumpf next year [03:58] DaemonFC[m] I doubt he'll be tweeting much soon. [03:59] DaemonFC[m] New York is ready to move on criminal charges. [03:59] schestowitz haha [03:59] schestowitz wuality [03:59] schestowitz quality [03:59] DaemonFC[m] Unless Giuliani shoves a cell phone up he ass to get to Trump's cell.... [03:59] schestowitz Trump was always good with "ratings" [03:59] DaemonFC[m] *his [03:59] schestowitz I bet the Trump trials will get high ratings [03:59] schestowitz reality TV show from his jail cell with Ivanka [03:59] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: The Manhattan district attorney is moving in on fraud and tax evasion charges. ● Nov 21 [04:00] schestowitz good [04:00] schestowitz about time [04:00] DaemonFC[m] The whole rotten thing is coming down on him. [04:00] schestowitz DB loans [04:01] schestowitz Putin and friends won't pay em off [04:01] schestowitz and if he stole money through WH [04:01] schestowitz then Biden's team will see the balances and transactions [04:01] schestowitz once inside the WH [04:01] schestowitz it's hard to hide those tracks [04:01] schestowitz when there's a Federal probe [04:01] schestowitz not with Barr in charge [04:01] DaemonFC[m] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michigan-attorney-general-canvassing-board-lawmakers/2020/11/20/87d19ce6-2b65-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html [04:02] DaemonFC[m] This could be part of the reason why the Republicans told him thanks but no thanks. [04:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Michigan attorney general ponders criminal probes of state and local officials who bend to Trumps will on overturning election results - The Washington Post [04:02] DaemonFC[m] They're not going to stick their necks out, watch him lose anyway, and face criminal charges themselves. [04:03] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Humble Store and Blender Fund http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144609 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3ddf2374-9559-492b-81bc-f77de26fdee8] [04:09] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: They're still at it on the radio about "premium mattresses" and shit. [04:09] DaemonFC[m] Like, who in this economy, where they have to slash rent 30% in downtown Chicago, is buying a $5,000 mattress? [04:09] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Hardware/Modding: #AOSP and #Arduino Projects http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144610 [https://pleroma.site/objects/16a697b1-8300-4920-87ea-89a40524e2cc] [04:10] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I got a brand new king mattress for $200. [04:10] DaemonFC[m] Works fine. [04:11] DaemonFC[m] I guess there's still some MARISOLs out there until CTCA files bankruptcy. [04:12] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19493686 [04:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "it came from above..." Nuremberg for Trump. #AmericanCarnage #COVID19 [04:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_fe92e67f9cd2d052becf.jpg [04:13] schestowitz [04:10] schestowitz: I got a brand new king mattress for $200. [04:13] schestowitz unlike a laptop, this is worth the price [04:13] schestowitz it's your back's health [04:13] schestowitz [04:09] schestowitz: They're still at it on the radio about "premium mattresses" and shit. [04:13] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: CTCA froze pa, cut benefits, cut pension matches, froze hiring, didn't give the Republicans jack shit, started taking government healthcare plans, and is looking for a buyer. [04:13] schestowitz or laptops [04:13] schestowitz a $200 mattress is hardly worse than a $1000 one [04:14] schestowitz the whole "hotel-grade" BS [04:14] schestowitz you can even buy used ones from hotals on the cheap [04:14] schestowitz if you want one used by thousands of couples before [04:17] schestowitz yewtu.be is down for hours now. I wonder why... [04:29] *tr_guest|5395 (6c02409b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.2.64.155) has joined #techrights [04:30] *tr_guest|5395 has quit (Client Quit) [04:31] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Yeah, but good luck ever making off with the expensive mattress if anything happens. [04:31] DaemonFC[m] The cheap mattresses seem to sleep fine. [04:32] DaemonFC[m] I spent maybe $1,700 furnishing this entire apartment. [04:33] DaemonFC[m] The kitchen table with 4 chairs cost me $129 at IKEA. [04:34] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Toss it all in there and carve out a day to set it all up. [04:34] DaemonFC[m] Saves you a fortune. [04:35] DaemonFC[m] My parents got expensive furniture that held up longer than their marriage. [04:36] DaemonFC[m] I think my cousin is still using their dining room furniture. [04:36] schestowitz whatever makes you love staying home [04:36] schestowitz btw [04:36] schestowitz incidentally [04:37] schestowitz rianne read the other day about undersupply of houses [04:37] schestowitz many flee city apartments now [04:37] schestowitz just just office spaces [04:37] schestowitz the "corporate estate" sector [04:37] schestowitz they want larger homes [04:37] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Downtown Chicago rent collapse of 30%. [04:37] DaemonFC[m] People still aren't biting. [04:37] schestowitz realising they'll spend far more time in them [04:37] schestowitz so there's a rush for and growing demand for houses [04:37] DaemonFC[m] Maybe at half what they were charging before. I don't know. Water finds its own level. [04:37] schestowitz not sharing doorknobs with possibly ill neighbours [04:38] schestowitz a lot of companies that relied on those things are dead or will die [04:38] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, they're fleeing downstate, or out of the state, Roy. It's terrific. [04:38] schestowitz rianne's cousin relies on student accomodation [04:38] schestowitz those are all empty now [04:38] schestowitz and they cannot make a dime [04:38] DaemonFC[m] I get cheap rent without all of these fucking assholes bidding it up 30% every year. [04:39] schestowitz it's wrong to assume things last forever. [04:39] schestowitz they did not do proper risk analysis [04:39] schestowitz *accommodation [04:39] DaemonFC[m] They never do, Roy. [04:39] schestowitz we shut down our company's office [04:39] schestowitz back in July [04:39] schestowitz for good [04:39] schestowitz spread around the office assets, like chairs and staff [04:39] schestowitz *stuff [04:39] schestowitz the staff stayed [04:39] DaemonFC[m] 80% of them are Republicans and they figured Trump would sprinkle his magic pixie dust on their portfolio and then they'd ride off into the sunset on a unicorn. [04:40] schestowitz except the truly incompetent 'manager' [04:40] schestowitz we fired her [04:40] schestowitz belatedly [04:40] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Mom's landlord is barricaded in his house down in Florida. [04:40] schestowitz after she did lots of damage and brain-drained us by causing people to quit [04:40] DaemonFC[m] He has a place in a gated community. [04:40] DaemonFC[m] Has to have his groceries delivered. [04:40] schestowitz ah, yes [04:41] schestowitz I was in Florida twice and 2 days ago I mentioned to Rianne's the gates streets [04:41] schestowitz like, having to pay personal guards [04:41] DaemonFC[m] Great place to spend the final years. Trapped in the house because you voted for some dumbass thinking that he'd only fuck immigrants and blacks. [04:41] schestowitz some countries are like that.... it's a big tax [04:41] schestowitz thankfully we don't need to pay patrols and walls [04:41] DaemonFC[m] I commented to Mandy's sister as things were breaking down. [04:41] schestowitz crime like break-ins isn't at zero, but nobody except maybe footballers on the hill would hire a security agency [04:42] DaemonFC[m] "Paranoia is a way of life for you people, isn't it? [04:42] schestowitz paranoia is a negative slant [04:42] schestowitz on prudence [04:42] DaemonFC[m] Waukegan isn't really that bad. There's crime, but it's not like you need to build a private fortress. [04:43] DaemonFC[m] I've never had a break in, and even if I did, it's all insured. [04:43] DaemonFC[m] Nobody wants my IKEA coffee table. [04:44] DaemonFC[m] So I'm free from having to worry that someone wants the shit I'm spending 60 hours a week accumulating, never home to use, and with security cameras and ring doorbells all over to watch because I'm off making money for payments on stuff I can't use. [04:45] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Which means I also don't have to pay for the security alarms, Ring, and cameras. [04:45] DaemonFC[m] It pays to just not worry about accumulating stuff. [04:46] DaemonFC[m] One day, you look up, the shit is gone. [04:46] DaemonFC[m] Doesn't matter how, it's just gone. [04:46] DaemonFC[m] And you wasted your life to pay for it. [04:47] DaemonFC[m] That's why advertisers are everywhere. They don't want you to realize you're wasting your life. [04:47] DaemonFC[m] Maybe you have a bad back because you had to pick up overtime to make more payments on the mattress. [04:47] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I'm liking the stay at home order. [04:48] DaemonFC[m] When I go out to drive somewhere, I'm making really good time, and I filled up my gas tank for $1.87 a gallon this evening. [04:49] schestowitz [04:47] schestowitz: I'm liking the stay at home order. [04:49] schestowitz consider who is harmed by it [04:49] schestowitz socialites [04:49] schestowitz party animals [04:49] schestowitz people who eat our [04:49] schestowitz who can't cook [04:49] DaemonFC[m] Pretty much. [04:49] schestowitz and people who never took contingencies into account [04:50] schestowitz we got a second mat for workouts [04:50] schestowitz because we work out indoors at home [04:50] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Mandy picks up all the hours he wants at work because people are terrified to go into the store. [04:51] schestowitz michigan.. [04:51] DaemonFC[m] Now, capacity limits are back. [04:51] schestowitz not always strictly enforced [04:52] schestowitz no Grammy's and stuff [04:52] schestowitz no boxing [04:52] schestowitz imagine watching a boxing match without spectators around the ring [04:52] schestowitz very anticlimactic [04:52] schestowitz same for football to some degree [04:52] schestowitz I heard sport viewership is down [04:53] schestowitz not just the premium viewership where you pay $50 for a sear [04:53] schestowitz *seat [04:53] schestowitz so people I suppose spend their time on other stuff [04:53] schestowitz without actually spending [04:53] schestowitz just spending /time/ [04:55] DaemonFC[m] Professional sports have been in the shitter for a lot of reasons. [04:55] DaemonFC[m] Including the mjg59 stuff going on. [04:55] DaemonFC[m] You know, people who hate their country and make a spectacle of it on TV. Like they ever suffer. They're millionaires. [04:56] DaemonFC[m] In the case of NASCAR, tokenism. [04:57] DaemonFC[m] https://www.marketwatch.com/story/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-attempt-at-new-criminal-disqualifiers-to-asylum-01605888509 [04:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Federal judge blocks Trump administration attempt at new criminal disqualifiers to asylum - MarketWatch ● Nov 21 [05:00] DaemonFC[m] https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/federal-judge-strikes-doj-from-the-docket-in-e-jean-carrolls-case-against-donald-trump/ [05:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lawandcrime.com | Judge Removes DOJ from Docket in E. Jean Carroll's Case Against Trump | Law & Crime [05:00] DaemonFC[m] LOL [05:02] DaemonFC[m] Ralph the Bus Driver Voted 5 hours ago [05:02] DaemonFC[m] Shortly, Trump is going to realize that if he had just remained a New York City land lord he would have been happy. Instead he raised his profile to the highest level possible and tipped off the authorities to all his criminal enterprises. 2021 will not be kind to Donald J. Trump and his spawn. [05:03] DaemonFC[m] Well, they knew about all of his crimes already and just never had to do anything about it before. [05:03] DaemonFC[m] He's spent years pissing off the Democratic Party, which controls entire states. [05:03] DaemonFC[m] He has vendettas, they have vendettas. [05:04] DaemonFC[m] Not only do they want revenge and to score points for themselves with voters who hate Trump, but now that all of his crimes are out in the open, if they don't do anything, those same voters will eat them alive. [05:05] DaemonFC[m] https://fox4kc.com/news/federal-judge-halts-lisa-montgomerys-execution-after-lawyers-contract-virus/ [05:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fox4kc.com | Federal judge halts Lisa Montgomerys execution after lawyers contract virus | FOX 4 Kansas City WDAF-TV | News, Weather, Sports [05:05] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Trump had been running a rocket docket on federal executions after decades went by without a single one. [05:05] DaemonFC[m] He only started doing it in the months leading up to the election. [05:06] DaemonFC[m] So he was basically murdering people to show his voters how "tough" he was. [05:06] DaemonFC[m] Most of them had been sentenced to death a very long time ago. [05:07] DaemonFC[m] There wasn't any pressing reason to do it right away. They didn't pose any threat to the public in prison. [05:08] DaemonFC[m] Biden may very well bring back the moratorium, but the Republicans in the Senate and on the Supreme Court are not going to get rid of the law that allows for it. [05:11] DaemonFC[m] https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/11/12/federal-judge-tosses-out-trump-campaigns-lawsuit-against-cnn/?sh=754662747557 [05:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Federal Judge Tosses Out Trump Campaigns Lawsuit Against CNN [05:12] DaemonFC[m] "One of the things I'm going to do if I win I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money, Trump promised in 2016. [05:24] schestowitz SCOTUS is a red herring now [05:25] schestowitz given prior outcome [05:25] schestowitz not even Trump appointees will help him [05:25] schestowitz as it can get them impeached [05:25] schestowitz also, they don't owe him much anymore [05:25] schestowitz he's a civilian in 2 months [05:25] schestowitz they can give him the finger [05:25] schestowitz and then be praised for going against their "master" [05:26] schestowitz then corporate media like CNN will talk about how those corporate 'plants' or 'moles' "aren't so bad after all" [05:30] DaemonFC[m] https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/11/20/937043662/merrick-garland-among-biden-candidates-for-attorney-general-sources-say [05:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Merrick Garland Could Be A Biden Pick For Attorney General, Sources Say : Biden Transition Updates : NPR [05:34] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19493907 [05:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Merrick Garland should put #trump behind Barr behind bars [05:42] schestowitz https://gazette.com/sports/klee-with-three-on-broncos-raiders-how-low-can-public-trust-in-media-go/article_765c871a-2506-11eb-94bb-779ecdce2c83.html [05:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klee with Three on Broncos-Raiders: How low can public trust in media go? | Sports Coverage | gazette.com [05:42] schestowitz "The people assigned to tell you the truth spent 2020 portraying protests as peaceful when anyone driving down Broadway could see the smashed windows on the state capitol. " [05:49] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144611 [https://pleroma.site/objects/04f77e70-a897-4bd6-9e87-07ba9182d0a4] [05:54] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144612 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e8b5d458-dd6e-41ad-b7a2-5223a73c37d7] [05:59] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 21/11/2020: Coreboot 4.13, EasyOS 2.5, Wine 5.22, Gmusicbrowser 1.1.16 http://techrights.org/2020/11/21/coreboot-4-13/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/b3b62825-4515-4e9d-b577-34f6c908a493] ● Nov 21 [06:40] *Blukunfando has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) ● Nov 21 [07:11] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: May we live long and die out | http://vhemt.org/) [07:50] vZS1 Propaganda isn't journalism [07:51] vZS1 I just saw an FSF piece on DRM and demonisation of Netflix. When they openly embrace GitHub [07:53] vZS1 Probably because Microsoft wants a piece of that Netflix cake. If FSF hates DRM do much, why not grill Microsoft ● Nov 21 [08:02] vZS1 FSF polluting my Planet GNU feed [08:26] Ariadne [16:32] <558b2fscientes> do you just lurk in #musl ? [08:26] Ariadne scientes: I rarely have anything to say on #musl ● Nov 21 [09:02] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: EasyOS 2.5 Linux Distro Released With A New Game, Bluetooth Manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144597#comment-27211 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fa7125a5-0432-441f-8bf0-040e40804509] [09:03] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open source brings musicians together virtually http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144613 [https://pleroma.site/objects/eb132a6b-5f7d-4aec-8e89-4febdbe579df] [09:04] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144614 [https://pleroma.site/objects/922f7625-f104-4236-840c-a25ee0e77dfa] [09:08] schestowitz vZS1: sounds like something figosdev would say [09:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:13] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:19] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [09:20] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [09:49] vZS1 schestowitz: I'm taking a little break this weekend from programming. I've been at it for 2 weeks without a break. [09:49] vZS1 But I've been playing around with IPNS to make it easier to serve dynamic content. [09:50] schestowitz I think we're Ok to have a break [09:50] schestowitz as things seem stable [09:50] schestowitz today we deployed some changed, 4 bugs found, fixed [09:50] schestowitz afaik [09:50] schestowitz the worklow is improved somewhat [09:51] schestowitz I think we can do 10 posts/day soon, as before... [09:52] vZS1 My idea is to use IPNS to serve dynamic IPFS content. How it works is that you hash a public key and people just use that to find content linked to that public key. Kind of like how Tor works. Identity-based addressing. [09:53] schestowitz that's over my head [09:54] vZS1 I'll do a write-up for you when I have the time [09:54] vZS1 Basically, my plan is like this [09:54] vZS1 I have a simple HTTP server serving just 1 page of IPNS links [09:54] vZS1 Those IPNS links point to dynamic content on IPFS [09:55] vZS1 So people don't need to parse through indices all the time [09:55] *Sajesajama (Salsa@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/sajesajama) has joined #techrights [09:57] *Sajesajama has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:58] vZS1 It eases the load on clients ● Nov 21 [10:00] vZS1 Also good for stuff like RSS because people can pull from one static address [10:00] vZS1 The address the just a pointer. You update the pointer on your node. [10:01] vZS1 Whenever you make a change [10:01] vZS1 It's got some good applications for certain use cases [10:02] schestowitz I still use RSS for clean access, js-free [10:02] schestowitz partial content rss feeds are less useful [10:02] schestowitz as they still demand direct site access, sometimes with js [10:02] vZS1 Eww [10:02] schestowitz we're going text only for all things [10:02] vZS1 That's a good plan [10:02] schestowitz for those who don't want to use a browser at all [10:02] schestowitz browsers become evil [10:02] schestowitz too much strapped onto them [10:02] vZS1 They already are [10:03] schestowitz they're bloat- and even drm-saddled [10:03] schestowitz they're basically like proprietary OSes [10:03] vZS1 Don't forget the spyware [10:03] schestowitz with blobs for "protected content" [10:03] schestowitz I've not even mentioned the privacy aspect [10:03] schestowitz so those browsers CAN run on bsd and gnu/linux [10:04] schestowitz and those 'applications' are more malicious than the hardware and OS [10:04] schestowitz and they call is "clown" or "web-based [10:04] schestowitz crap like "slack" that's basically a gremlin on your machine [10:04] schestowitz confined to a tab, but does all sorts of nasty stuff [10:04] schestowitz or google enabling your microphone remotely from a 'browser' [10:04] vZS1 So I'm guessing all the TR RSS items have full content in the element? [10:04] schestowitz on Debian even [10:05] schestowitz yes, they do [10:05] schestowitz and that links in to images and attachments like pfs [10:05] schestowitz pdfs [10:05] schestowitz so you really don't need to open anything [10:05] vZS1 Because I actually read TR through my RSS client, instead of a browser. [10:05] schestowitz we can lower server load that way [10:05] schestowitz I don't care for "hits", just number of readers [10:06] schestowitz like people who take away a large text file and that's it [10:06] vZS1 I'm working on meshing RSS with IPFS [10:06] schestowitz that would be good [10:06] vZS1 That's why I'm writing an RSS library from scratch [10:06] schestowitz basically a way to have censorship-resistant user-friendly client [10:06] vZS1 Yep [10:06] schestowitz that pulls the 'content' from arbitrary nodes [10:06] vZS1 Mhm [10:06] schestowitz and if the original goes down, then it's equally accessible [10:06] vZS1 Yep [10:07] vZS1 You got it [10:07] schestowitz rss is already distributed [10:07] schestowitz compared to FB/Twitter [10:07] schestowitz there's no single master [10:07] schestowitz just many masters [10:07] schestowitz and rss connecting to the many masters [10:07] vZS1 Just making it even more robust [10:07] schestowitz many ip addresses [10:07] vZS1 So you don't suffer ddos [10:07] schestowitz if they're meshing the "content", then it's further complicating throttling, takedowns etc. [10:08] schestowitz I'm about to publish 2 internal EPO letters [10:08] schestowitz maybe you want to read quickly to help catch typos? [10:08] vZS1 Sure [10:08] schestowitz one mo [10:09] schestowitz ok, here goes: http://techrights.org/2020/11/21/epo-legal-action/ [10:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Inside the EPO During Corona: SUEPO (EPO Staff Union) and the Central Staff Committee Blast the Office for Illegal Practices and Threaten Legal Action | Techrights [10:09] schestowitz I've not proofread it yet [10:11] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [10:11] vZS1 The EPOs is [10:11] vZS1 The EPO is [10:12] schestowitz ah [10:15] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [10:25] vZS1 My long-term plan is to create a distributed hub where Free Software people can hang out and work together [10:26] vZS1 I'm just building all the infrastructure for it, piece by piece. It will probably take a few years of work but things are going well. [10:28] vZS1 I've started small and am using the experience from those small wins to feed the bigger plans. [10:28] schestowitz yes, we're mixing things [10:28] schestowitz exposing corruption [10:28] schestowitz tech advocacy [10:28] schestowitz etc. [10:29] schestowitz so we could use any help we can get with hosting, decentralising etc. [10:29] schestowitz as that helps us become more useful an outlet for whistleblowers and stuff subjected to takedown/aggression/SLAPP. [10:29] schestowitz We have had our share of threatening letters [10:29] schestowitz not yet lawsuits, as they lack an actual case they can win [10:30] schestowitz and we got some pro bono legal help [10:30] vZS1 Well. You're not breaking any laws anyway [10:30] *SubWasted (~quassel@145.168.191.92.dynamic.jazztel.es) has joined #techrights [10:30] *SubWasted has quit (Client Quit) [10:30] vZS1 Standing up for basic human rights can't really be argued against [10:31] vZS1 Do the right thing and people will come to help you [10:36] vZS1 We've got to make the game like whack-a-mole. But with billions of moles [10:37] vZS1 It's doable. The hardware is becoming more affordable. [10:38] vZS1 There are loads of Rpi clones that target markets in developing countries. [10:38] vZS1 One of my big guiding assumption is writing code that compiles easily anywhere [10:38] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:39] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [10:39] vZS1 So people can have a dedicated machine running 24/7 and not break the bank [10:41] vZS1 BitTorrent isn't the answer. They're compromised. [10:41] schestowitz [10:38] There are loads of Rpi clones that target markets in developing countries. [10:41] schestowitz I see this as deterrence strategy [10:41] vZS1 They do their development locked behind Google services [10:41] schestowitz they would not even bother sending letters [10:41] schestowitz if they know the site is a hydra [10:41] schestowitz like Wikileaks was once the Obama admin threatens to shut it down [10:42] schestowitz and about 400 Wikileaks mirrors showed up for cablegate [10:42] schestowitz after they took down their AWS instance [10:42] vZS1 I'm thinking in scale of billions here [10:42] schestowitz I can always say, "well, even if I take it down, it's already everywhere. Too late..." [10:42] vZS1 Yep [10:42] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc01:200:655e:ef87:f909:8731) has joined #techrights [10:43] schestowitz I temporarily did take down one article [10:43] schestowitz temporarily = about 2 years [10:43] schestowitz I silently reinstated it later [10:43] schestowitz unchanged [10:43] schestowitz it was about Microsoft [10:43] schestowitz an internal leak of damning email [10:43] schestowitz caused some manager to lose his mind [10:44] schestowitz and he's British, Army background [10:44] schestowitz so litigation at a personal capacity was possible [10:45] vZS1 The only way we can maintain freedom of the press is to make sure the operation is a hydra [10:45] vZS1 Press needs to evolve [10:46] schestowitz wikileaks did that [10:46] schestowitz and the "press' said wikileaks was different [10:46] schestowitz and that Assange can just rot to death in Belmarsh [10:47] *tr_guest|20631 (519aad70@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.154.173.112) has joined #techrights [10:47] vZS1 Can't really tie it too closely to one individual [10:48] vZS1 That's a weakness in infrastructure [10:48] vZS1 Of the whole operation [10:49] vZS1 Just like what happened with FSF and RMS [10:49] vZS1 Too much on one person's shoulders [10:50] vZS1 And look what happened to the FSF. Castrated and gagged. [10:53] vZS1 Groklaw. Ditto. [10:54] vZS1 Too much rhetoric about successors instead of community. [10:55] vZS1 Community is how we win [10:55] vZS1 Not Foundations and all that crap [10:56] schestowitz the issue is no decentralisation [10:56] schestowitz or succession [10:57] schestowitz at one point groklaw was left in a red hat hand [10:57] schestowitz Mark Webbink [10:57] schestowitz ibiblio is not committed to the site anymore [10:57] schestowitz otherwise they'd fix it [10:57] schestowitz instead they went into status mirror mode [10:57] schestowitz then it broke, partly [10:57] schestowitz then broke down completely, offline ● Nov 21 [11:01] schestowitz vZS1: can you read the next one also? [11:01] schestowitz it's ready now [11:01] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:01] vZS1 Sure. Link pls [11:02] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [11:02] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/11/21/epo-for-trump/ [11:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Only Real Dialogue the European Patent Office is Having is With Litigation Parasites, Even Foreign Ones | Techrights [11:02] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:03] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:03] vZS1 but the main if not sole asset of the Office. [11:04] vZS1 but the main, if not sole, asset of the Office [11:04] schestowitz amending [11:06] vZS1 So this is who of what the EPO nowadays represents [11:07] vZS1 Sounds a bit off [11:11] schestowitz yes [11:11] schestowitz "or" [11:11] schestowitz I fixed it [11:29] schestowitz vZS1: just in: https://blog.torproject.org/node/1957 [11:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | From Trac into Gitlab for Tor | Tor Blog [11:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:32] vZS1 Self-hosted GitLab is a lot better than GitHub but it isn't the answer [11:32] vZS1 You need about 8 GB of RAM to properly run GitLab [11:32] schestowitz it's 'community edition' typically [11:32] schestowitz which I regard to be proprietaty+openwashing-style marketing [11:33] vZS1 I've maintained production GitLab deployments. I wouldn't use any of these voluntarily [11:33] vZS1 Git with plain hooks is best [11:34] vZS1 That way you know exactly what's going on [11:34] vZS1 And have full control and extensibility [11:34] vZS1 And it's lightweight [11:35] vZS1 GitLab is the monolithic junk we need to break away from [11:36] vZS1 And GitLab has other issues. Heavy priority to Docker and Kubernetes. [11:36] vZS1 In their development [11:36] vZS1 Not OS-agnostic like Git [11:37] vZS1 GitLab is a cost saving tool for businesses [11:37] vZS1 It's not a solution for hackers [11:37] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:39] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:39] vZS1 I've spent months battling GitLab's bugs. They're not pleasant. It also forces workflows onto you. [11:40] vZS1 But YAML+GUI so businesses love it. Train another monkey to operate it and they're good to go. [11:40] schestowitz until.. [11:41] schestowitz they work ona project witout Giitlab [11:41] schestowitz and then they're helpless [11:41] schestowitz same with AWS [11:41] schestowitz memorising GUIs [11:41] schestowitz not learning the actual tools [11:41] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ [11:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights [11:41] schestowitz "what are your computer skills" [11:41] vZS1 That's their own problem for making themselves so disposable. [11:41] schestowitz Respondent: AMAZON! [11:41] schestowitz wow [11:41] schestowitz oh wow [11:42] schestowitz so what if we DON'T use Amazon [11:42] schestowitz Respondent: Then we MUST MIGRATE TO IT! [11:42] schestowitz Well done [11:42] schestowitz that'll be $200,000 per annum [11:42] schestowitz not for the worker [11:42] schestowitz for Bezos lock-in [11:43] schestowitz [11:33] I've maintained production GitLab deployments. I wouldn't use any of these voluntarily [11:43] schestowitz Ariadne said the same recently [11:43] schestowitz at one point I thought about running it on our techrights server [11:43] schestowitz but then I did further reading [11:43] schestowitz and went like, "no f'ing way I'm maintaining THAT shit" [11:43] Ariadne i would just stick with something like gitolite for 'personal' git repos [11:43] Ariadne unless you absolutely need a 'forge', it is a waste of time [11:44] schestowitz what about gitea/gog? [11:44] schestowitz gogs? [11:44] vZS1 I don't like them either [11:44] Ariadne alpine only run gitlab because it has a team of sysadmins [11:44] vZS1 Undrar m unnecessary [11:44] vZS1 They are unnecessary* [11:44] schestowitz imagine that [11:44] schestowitz you want git [11:44] schestowitz you want devs who use it [11:44] schestowitz and then [11:45] schestowitz you need a DBA! [11:45] schestowitz a f-ing DBA [11:45] schestowitz DevSecDBAIOps :-) [11:46] schestowitz and all that junk [11:46] vZS1 I do E2E consultation [11:46] schestowitz whatever they call it when they sling from the hip with kubernetes kitchen sinks everywhere [11:46] vZS1 Have done all the admin jobs [11:46] schestowitz even for a single node [11:46] vZS1 sysadmin* [11:48] vZS1 Bootloader config, custom kernel builds, DBs, virtualization, VCS, security policy design and implementation, etc [11:48] vZS1 You kind of need to know the whole chain to do security properly [11:48] schestowitz or... [11:48] schestowitz you could be a sec poser [11:48] schestowitz with buzzwords like "infosec" [11:48] schestowitz like "swift on security" [11:49] schestowitz a Microso\ft boosters [11:49] schestowitz basically NSA [11:49] schestowitz put "DevSecOp" or "DevOp" in your profile [11:49] schestowitz choose some cryptic name with numbers for letters [11:49] schestowitz and act all edgy [11:50] schestowitz now you can be a "consultant" [11:50] vZS1 Lol [11:50] schestowitz telling companies to put proprietary KASPERSKY on their Debian boxes [11:50] schestowitz don't worry about that cryptic stuff you sniff over the network overnight [11:50] schestowitz that's just KASPERSKY working to "keep you safe" [11:50] schestowitz remote updates and all [11:50] schestowitz From Moscow [11:51] vZS1 A lot of these DevOps people don't even know how to use tcpdump [11:51] vZS1 Or infosec [11:51] schestowitz what's tcp? [11:51] schestowitz dump? [11:51] schestowitz is my girlfriend dumping me? [11:51] Ariadne schestowitz: have you considered moving #techrights to matrix? the new matrix homeserver, dendrite, is actually pleasant to manage from sysadmin perspective. [11:52] schestowitz IRC is simpler [11:52] schestowitz and we have workflows for it [11:52] schestowitz I heard bad things about Matrix [11:52] schestowitz from the perspective of managing it, not using it [11:52] vZS1 IRC does the job [11:52] Ariadne yeah, dendrite is honestly a gamechanger there :P [11:52] vZS1 Why bother with something else [11:53] schestowitz I used IRC when I got my first modem [11:53] schestowitz spoke to some Dutch dude [11:53] schestowitz first time I chatted overseas over a dial-up modem [11:53] schestowitz DALNet, IIRC [11:53] Ariadne vZS1: for one, techrights does not actually control this IRC channel, freenode does. freenode is less than trustworthy, really. [11:53] schestowitz we don't privately chat over it... and we're publicly logged [11:54] schestowitz for what it's worth, gnu and fsf seem ok with freenode/irc [11:55] schestowitz and they're a yardstick of putting thought into things, esp. gnu [11:55] schestowitz mozilla moved from irc to matrix [11:55] schestowitz I can't say much good about mozilla these days [11:55] schestowitz they even experiments with moving to DISCORD for some projects [11:55] schestowitz now discourse, the proprietary discord [11:56] schestowitz they recently rebranded "UX" [11:56] schestowitz Mozilla hired too many cargo cults, who now do damage "in-house" [11:56] schestowitz like fluid UIs that change under your mouse pointers [11:57] schestowitz and Firefox interfaces that acts like Chrome in a lot of ways [11:57] schestowitz thunderbird then became the same [11:57] schestowitz settings as tabs, no button to apply changes, removing "http://" etc. [11:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: "; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://" ) [11:58] vZS1 I'm working on a lightweight IRC server and client package once I sort some other stuff out [11:58] vZS1 Minimal implementation [11:59] schestowitz for us, hard to think of any /practical/ limitation to IRC [11:59] schestowitz hundreds of applications support it [11:59] schestowitz with bash, perl and python code we use on it [11:59] schestowitz plus bots [11:59] vZS1 Because it was designed to be simple and easy to automate [11:59] schestowitz if people want to upload images, they can upload them elsewhere, then link to it [11:59] vZS1 IPFS [11:59] schestowitz DaemonFC[m] links a lot to some matrix instance [11:59] vZS1 You can just link to IPFS ● Nov 21 [12:00] schestowitz that too [12:00] schestowitz if more people used it [12:01] vZS1 It will happen over time [12:01] schestowitz there's a relatively hard entry barrier [12:01] vZS1 Shouldn't stop us from using it [12:01] schestowitz and steep learning curve [12:01] schestowitz no matter what YOU tell me [12:01] schestowitz cause you cannot un-know what you already know [12:01] vZS1 I never said it was simple [12:02] schestowitz I didn't even know about ipfs cat cid [12:02] schestowitz until last week [12:02] schestowitz I relies on the site, ipfs.io [12:02] schestowitz *relied [12:02] vZS1 Now you do [12:02] vZS1 And people can ask her [12:02] vZS1 here* [12:02] vZS1 I'm around [12:02] vZS1 You are [12:02] schestowitz and that also requires joining oneself to the 'botnet' [12:02] schestowitz so I cannot do it on my main workstation, I need to ssh [12:03] schestowitz cannot do it over gui with fish:// either [12:03] schestowitz command line essential [12:03] vZS1 There's a web ui [12:04] vZS1 You don't need the command line [12:04] vZS1 There's also a desktop client [12:04] vZS1 But that doesn't solve the isolation problem unless you forward X session [12:05] vZS1 Web ui you can use just like for qBittorrent [12:05] vZS1 Or Transmission [12:05] schestowitz [12:03] There's a web ui [12:05] schestowitz then there is a middleman [12:06] schestowitz and potential spying by a third party [12:06] vZS1 Pick your poison [12:07] vZS1 CLI is the simplest option. [12:07] vZS1 More people need to be CLI literate. [12:08] vZS1 Otherwise they can kiss their computing freedom goodbye [12:08] vZS1 And that's not the same thing as learning how to program [12:08] vZS1 It's a lot simpler [12:09] vZS1 And tbh, more people are CLI literate than ever before [12:09] vZS1 Look at the Arch userbase [12:09] vZS1 There are a lot of non-programmer Arch users who are perfectly comfortable with the CLI [12:10] vZS1 I don't know how that community works but they did a good job helping users get more control over their computing. A lot of those users came from Windows [12:11] vZS1 It's not all doom and gloom [12:12] vZS1 We shouldn't perputuate the GIAFAM FUD around CLIs. That's one big reason why they have such a firm grasp on computing. [12:12] vZS1 perpetuate* [12:12] *timur_demin is now known as tdemin [12:23] schestowitz [12:08] Otherwise they can kiss their computing freedom goodbye [12:24] schestowitz [12:08] And that's not the same thing as learning how to program [12:24] schestowitz Those two lines are connected [12:24] schestowitz figdosdev wrote countless articles about this [12:24] schestowitz and he'll read these logs [12:24] schestowitz for people to exercise more computing freedom we need to teach them very basic programming or cli tricks [12:24] schestowitz not advanced [12:24] schestowitz but basic [12:24] schestowitz not assembly code [12:24] schestowitz they don't need to know compilers or anything [12:25] vZS1 I'm going to be writing a free series of periodicals on this [12:25] schestowitz but without having any sort of grip they'll be gaslit by devs [12:25] vZS1 Just basic GNU Bash stuff [12:25] schestowitz and will never managed to exercise, defend, restore control/autonomy [12:25] schestowitz autonomy [12:25] schestowitz they need to teach in schools, [12:25] schestowitz as they did LOGO [12:25] schestowitz things like tailing a log [12:25] schestowitz tail -f [12:25] schestowitz tail -20 [12:25] schestowitz and then explain what logs are [12:26] schestowitz those are already valuable skills [12:26] schestowitz better than knowing what error 0xfff0007b in windows is [12:26] vZS1 I'm going to go from `ls` to `cron` to simple GNU Bash scripts. [12:26] vZS1 This is coming next year. (: [12:26] schestowitz at least linux and gnu don't present hex to users [12:26] schestowitz but windows is soooooo much more user-friendly [12:27] Ariadne targeting GNU Bash vs POSIX shell is unwise [12:27] schestowitz dear ol' grandpa knows 0xfff0007b [12:27] schestowitz "ah, that one!" [12:27] Ariadne windows 10 just presents a frowny face [12:27] Ariadne and reboots [12:27] Ariadne what broke? who knows [12:27] schestowitz "something happened... something happened" [12:27] schestowitz user: I KNOW! [12:27] schestowitz I can see that! [12:27] vZS1 If you and fig have topic ideas, feel free to recommend them. I'll cover it all in my periodicals [12:28] schestowitz right now I have some topics in mind [12:28] schestowitz 'someone' works on [12:28] vZS1 I'll note them down for later [12:28] schestowitz ecrpto and ed(1) [12:28] schestowitz but sometimes I have topics I lack time to cover [12:28] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:28] schestowitz like the latest bunch o IBM crap [12:28] schestowitz consortium for censorship [12:29] vZS1 I brought up ed a while ago [12:29] schestowitz there's also the OSI job ad [12:29] schestowitz maybe fig reads this [12:29] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [12:29] schestowitz https://opensource.org/executive_director [12:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | OSI Seeks to Hire Executive Director | Open Source Initiative [12:29] schestowitz write about that one [12:29] schestowitz lots I can say about [12:29] schestowitz "Please direct all inquiries to gm@opensource.org." [12:29] schestowitz That's Deb Icaza [12:30] vZS1 I can't do anything on a short timeline as I'm building my distribution pipeline atm [12:30] schestowitz "provided a home for projects like ClearlyDefined" [12:30] schestowitz Microsoft/ShitHub [12:30] schestowitz so we do not lack topic [12:30] schestowitz just 'manhours' [12:30] schestowitz apparently I should say personhours [12:30] vZS1 That word has son in it [12:30] vZS1 It's sexist [12:31] schestowitz I have planned for around 2pm another article about email encryption [12:31] schestowitz git is an insult [12:31] schestowitz as some point out [12:31] schestowitz so rename github [12:31] schestowitz to NicePersonHub [12:31] schestowitz or something [12:31] schestowitz sorry [12:31] schestowitz not NicePersonHub [12:31] schestowitz not NicePerDaughterHub [12:31] schestowitz there [12:31] schestowitz branding issue ensue [12:31] schestowitz including changeing scripts [12:32] schestowitz grep /s/github/NicePerDaughterHub/ [12:32] schestowitz and then test [12:32] schestowitz because there are always hacks here and there [12:32] schestowitz but now you'll get more "gits" (a-holes) involved in development [12:32] schestowitz they will not feel excluded from the community [12:32] schestowitz BTW, true story: [12:33] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/lame-words/ [12:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Its Crazy Not to Eliminate Lame Words That Might Offend Somebody | Techrights [12:33] schestowitz maybe in your spare time you can write about it too [12:33] schestowitz in short, it's confining out language [12:33] schestowitz restricting what we can say about people and companies that oppress us [12:33] schestowitz Microsoft is not a stupid companu [12:33] schestowitz or lame company [12:33] schestowitz it's "not nice" [12:33] schestowitz COC-approved [12:34] schestowitz this is absolutely insane [12:34] schestowitz oh, shit [12:34] schestowitz I can't sane insane either [12:34] schestowitz as it might insult the clinically insane [12:34] schestowitz whose code we DEFINITELY want [12:34] schestowitz so don't communicate in a way that makes them feel excluded [12:34] schestowitz no patent/child either [12:34] schestowitz we want people with no kids and no parents to also contribute code [12:35] schestowitz if we have things like "patent node" they'll start sobbing for an hour [12:35] schestowitz and then shoot the grocer around the block [12:35] schestowitz sometimes we come to assume that [12:35] schestowitz either it's about 1) censoring opinionated devs or [12:36] schestowitz 2) trolling us [12:36] schestowitz to destroy the communities [12:36] schestowitz 3) distract us and divert discussion away from things like ICE and contracts for spying on blacks/protesters/so-called 'anarchists' (what Trump calls people who dislike him) [12:36] schestowitz maybe figosdev will also do more articles on it [12:37] schestowitz I did about a dozen of more, some memes [12:37] schestowitz I'm tired of going around in circles [12:37] schestowitz and there's always a risk of someone like mjg59 taking some statement out of context to frame the opinionated as intolerant [12:37] schestowitz when in fact these restrictions on speech hurt him as much as everyone else [12:38] schestowitz unless his activism and warrior-ship is limited to non-corporations [12:38] schestowitz anyhoo, that's me back to writing now... [12:38] schestowitz -- [12:40] vZS1 I think I'll begin distribution around Christmas time. I will probably have my pipeline complete by then. [12:41] vZS1 Right now my pipeline is the priority. [12:41] vZS1 Can't distribute without a system [12:42] schestowitz or audience [12:42] schestowitz no reader, no incentive to spend time researching fact-checking, proofreading [12:42] schestowitz that's why so many sites perish [12:43] schestowitz you would not prepare a good story for 10 hours only to see it read by 10 people [12:44] schestowitz I see that our ipfs/txt grew from 1022 hits 2 weeks ago [12:44] schestowitz to 1228 in the past 6 days [12:44] schestowitz so about 1400+ for 7 days [12:45] schestowitz ipfs at 12,368 for 6 days [12:45] schestowitz txt at 18114 [12:46] schestowitz in 6 days, compared to the same in 7 days prior [12:46] schestowitz this means more people not read the site this way [12:46] schestowitz less pressure on wordpress, db etc. [12:46] schestowitz just a simple file transmission [12:47] schestowitz (me just grepping apache logs, nothing privacy-infringing. they all get deleted after 4 weeks, permanently) ● Nov 21 [13:14] vZS1 I'm in no rush [13:16] vZS1 I also having paying customers I need to attend to [13:16] vZS1 So I can't exactly do everything at once [13:17] vZS1 That's not sustainable [13:21] *timur_demin (~tdemin@2a03:1ac0:6dc3:9367::2) has joined #techrights [13:21] *tdemin has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:23] vZS1 The plaintext stuff has a pretty good chance of being mostly bot traffic [13:24] vZS1 The numbers are quite close to each other [13:24] vZS1 18114 and 12368 [13:25] *timur_demin is now known as tdemin [13:30] schestowitz I need help reading an article [13:30] schestowitz about software patents [13:37] *willyg_cos has quit (Quit: Gone...) [13:40] smnthermes > [08:51:53] Ariadne: schestowitz: have you considered moving #techrights to matrix? the new matrix homeserver, dendrite, is actually pleasant to manage from sysadmin perspective. [13:40] smnthermes Sadly Element uses Electron [13:41] *rianne_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:42] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:43] *Blukunfando (~bkf@105.red-83-42-108.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) has joined #techrights [13:44] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [13:51] psydroid there are other clients such as Gomuks, Spectral and Nheko [13:54] *timur_demin (~tdemin@2a03:1ac0:6dc3:9367::2) has joined #techrights [13:54] smnthermes Does any client keep up with the main one? [13:55] *tdemin has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:58] psydroid I would think they need to keep up with the spec and not with a specific client [13:59] *tdemin (~tdemin@2a03:1ac0:6dc3:9367::2) has joined #techrights [13:59] *timur_demin has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Nov 21 [14:04] *timur_demin (~tdemin@2a03:1ac0:6dc3:9367::2) has joined #techrights [14:04] *tdemin has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:06] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Customize GNOME in Ubuntu 20.04 with this Productive Look http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144615 [https://pleroma.site/objects/45e73a31-141d-4f3f-888d-a56bb862c128] [14:09] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:09] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7X6Yeydgyg [14:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-POLYBIUS - The Video Game That Doesn't Exist - YouTube [14:09] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:13] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/6TJ12m5.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/MV3ex7D.jpg [14:19] vZS1 > I would think they need to keep up with the spec and not with a specific client [14:20] *obarun has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:20] vZS1 Which framework is that? /s [14:33] Ariadne smnthermes: spectral seems to keep up pretty well. nheko is also usable [14:51] *chomwitt has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:53] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144616 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a0a92d7d-6c65-4cc3-9bed-eb05219a2e5b] [14:56] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/698632.jpg ● Nov 21 [15:06] schestowitz 4chan? [15:08] MinceR could be [15:08] MinceR it could also be another imageboard [15:13] vZS1 They're pushing Flutter on Ubuntu now. Think it's as competition to Electron. [15:13] schestowitz yeah, but they're much of the same [15:13] schestowitz I assume similar or same code, as well.. [15:13] schestowitz vZS1: they're partners with Google [15:13] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139660#comment-25981 [15:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical enables Linux desktop app support with Flutter | Tux Machines [15:13] schestowitz tons of links there [15:14] vZS1 Almost everything is Flutter or React now. Doubt that front will change any time soon. [15:22] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/698686.png [15:23] vZS1 Truck Yard [15:23] vZS1 Sign checks out [15:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:48] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:53] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:55] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Nov 21 [16:30] MinceR (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/705474.jpg [16:44] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:45] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:48] MinceR (no audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/698384.mp4 [16:59] schestowitz wtf? ● Nov 21 [17:00] schestowitz did he get the prostate grafted orally? [17:02] MinceR no [17:05] MinceR it's an exaggerated version of https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IaijutsuPractitioner -- adapted to something other than a weapon :> [17:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Iaijutsu Practitioner - TV Tropes [17:13] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/698280.jpg [17:15] XRevan86 @ believe in yourself [17:16] MinceR https://files.catbox.moe/vjwnp2.jpg [17:17] MinceR XRevan86: :> [17:18] MinceR believe in yourself [17:23] *miway (8ec52d01@142-197-045-001.res.spectrum.com) has joined #techrights [17:24] miway ? [17:24] schestowitz 0/ [17:24] *miway has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:24] XRevan86 schestowitz: Looks like hoop rolling. [17:25] MinceR reminds me of '\0' [17:26] *tr_guest|20631 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [17:26] schestowitz the two together are a high-five [17:35] MinceR (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/14/c1fb6c55d93bc2db.jpg ● Nov 21 [18:04] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/can [18:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Can [18:28] *zjmc_ (~jmc@162.219.176.3) has joined #techrights [18:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:30] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:34] *inky (~inky@37.252.82.233) has joined #techrights [18:35] *inky has quit (Client Quit) ● Nov 21 [19:18] *inky (~inky@37.252.82.233) has joined #techrights [19:32] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zjfftffhhqbtimeu) has joined #techrights ● Nov 21 [20:01] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [20:27] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc01:200:655e:ef87:f909:8731) has joined #techrights [20:35] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:56] DaemonFC[m] The official app does, but you can run it in a pinned tab on any recent browser. ● Nov 21 [21:03] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.95) has joined #techrights [21:07] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:07] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:08] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:08] *inky has quit (Client Quit) [21:08] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:09] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Calindori 1.3 has been released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144617 [https://pleroma.site/objects/66ecfa53-0882-4a6e-87c5-ea558dff24e1] [21:11] *zjmc_ (~jmc@162.219.176.3) has left #techrights [21:11] *hl has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:11] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KStars v3.5.0 is Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144618 [https://pleroma.site/objects/08fd77ef-f5f7-42d2-87da-0b20a06b2149] [21:13] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144619 [https://pleroma.site/objects/49562fd3-6910-461a-a043-49f026013eff] [21:15] *hl (~hl@152.ip-149-202-41.eu) has joined #techrights [21:15] *hl has quit (Changing host) [21:15] *hl (~hl@unaffiliated/hl) has joined #techrights [21:20] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: This week in #KDE : Apps and Wayland fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144620 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8cd0c682-63ee-44d4-96fc-d810d506166d] [21:31] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: A Monsters Expedition, Foundry VTT and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144621 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4525e08a-214c-45ad-92c0-5e55c1a59048] [21:33] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Wine 5.22 Released, How to Install it in Ubuntu 20.10, 20.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144596#comment-27213 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4291b005-262e-41ab-a268-371289c9903f] [21:35] schestowitz https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2019-03-10-debian-winding-down/ [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael.stapelberg.ch | Winding down my Debian involvement - Michael Stapelberg [21:35] schestowitz 2019 [21:35] schestowitz https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2019-09-29-dcs-positional-turbopfor-index/ [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael.stapelberg.ch | Debian Code Search: positional index, TurboPFor-compressed - Michael Stapelberg [21:36] schestowitz SJVN pushing "MAC" shite now https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-new-m1-macs-make-cutting-edge-machine-learning-workstations/ [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The new M1 Macs make cutting-edge, machine-learning workstations | ZDNet [21:36] schestowitz SJVN is bygone [21:36] schestowitz and here's all in on the ZDNet "Script" [21:36] schestowitz inc. 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[22:18] DaemonFC[m] Thus, Mac machine learning. [22:27] psydroid it's so predictable because Mac isn't an existential threat to Microsoft whereas GNU/Linux is [22:28] psydroid so they're latching on to other things that may delay the inevitable [22:28] DaemonFC[m] The Macs are priced way too high to compete directly with Windows PCs, which are on much better hardware, and aimed at people who are not complete idiots. [22:34] schestowitz > that is FUCKING AWESOME! [22:34] schestowitz > [22:34] schestowitz > schestowitz [22:34] schestowitz > vZS1: I am waiting for raku to delete github [22:34] schestowitz > [22:34] schestowitz > schestowitz [22:34] schestowitz > I discussed this with them this week [22:35] schestowitz > [22:35] schestowitz > vZS1 [22:35] schestowitz > They're moving to GitLab [22:35] schestowitz Some of them partly dispute it, so you know there's still a war on it.. [22:35] DaemonFC[m] It seems the new Macbook Air models with the M1 do have a lower price point. [22:35] psydroid I see Apple as the last of the Unix vendors with the crappiest hardware and software that found a way to survive by selling fashionable consumer devices [22:36] DaemonFC[m] But the M1 performance per watt graph is laughable at best. [22:37] schestowitz > I asked Tom, he's cool. They mentioned microsoft, they are simply not [22:37] schestowitz > paying attention to their own advice. This is Tom quoting the url: [22:37] schestowitz > [22:37] schestowitz > [22:37] schestowitz > the Free Software Foundation has updated is Ethical Tech guide [22:37] schestowitz > check it out here [22:37] schestowitz > [22:37] schestowitz > *https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/* [22:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v11/* ) [22:37] schestowitz > * [22:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Ethical Tech | Giving Guide [22:37] schestowitz > * [22:37] schestowitz > * [22:37] psydroid there is a solid engineering core but it's all in service of selling mediocre products to the masses [22:37] schestowitz > * [22:37] schestowitz > *"When we allow proprietary software created by Facebook, Amazon, Apple, [22:37] schestowitz > Microsoft, Google, and countless other companies to handle our basic [22:37] schestowitz > computing tasks, we put an enormous amount of power in their hands..."** [22:37] schestowitz > * [22:37] DaemonFC[m] It's designed to make a small improvement in maximum power consumption vs. Intel's U series (about 6%) look like some major chasm. [22:37] schestowitz > * [22:37] schestowitz > * [22:37] schestowitz > *They forgot to mention GitHub, which some members of the FSF use to [22:37] schestowitz > develop Free Software.** [22:37] schestowitz > * [22:37] schestowitz Even after Microsoft took over. 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