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psydroidThat's good to knowDec 21 00:00
psydroidEven though I don't really play gamesDec 21 00:00
MinceRyou get more input lag though :>Dec 21 00:00
psydroidI think I have a Steam account, but I've never done anything with itDec 21 00:01
psydroidI probably don't even remember the credentialsDec 21 00:01
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/g1mRDtj.jpgDec 21 00:24
XRevan86MinceR: That's so big!Dec 21 00:28
XRevan86Is it bigger than Texas?Dec 21 00:29
MinceRtwo football fields? no, they aren'tDec 21 00:30
XRevan86MinceR: So the universe is somewhere in betweenDec 21 00:55
MinceRlolDec 21 00:56
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XRevan86Esperanto is beautiful: for instance, "putinhajlo" is a correct compound noun in it.Dec 21 01:00
XRevan86("j" is the first consonant of "yes")Dec 21 01:01
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MinceR:)Dec 21 01:18
MinceRthat's not the equivalent to путин хуйло, is it?Dec 21 01:19
XRevan86MinceR: No, that means whore hailDec 21 01:45
MinceRlolDec 21 01:51
DaemonFC[m]Why get a steam account when the pirates just rip the games out and patch them so they work right?Dec 21 02:03
*psydroid just plays free software and retrogames once in a whileDec 21 02:15
MinceRoccasionally they do giveawaysDec 21 02:18
MinceRi played portal through such a giveawayDec 21 02:19
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, and I suppose I could play some of those free games my last laptop didn't support.Dec 21 02:28
MinceR(of course, so do other platforms, including GOG, who don't even do DRM)Dec 21 02:30
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DaemonFC[m]https://hothardware.com/news/windows-10-20h2-update-damages-ssd-file-systems-chkdskDec 21 05:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 10 20H2 Update Reportedly Damages SSD File Systems If You Run ChkDsk | HotHardwareDec 21 05:08
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DaemonFC[m]This is just embarrassing.Dec 21 05:25
DaemonFC[m]I mean how how does chkdsk screw up like this? There haven't been any on disk format changes to NTFS since Windows XP according to Wikipedia.Dec 21 05:25
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schestowitz[23:53] <vZS1> Don't fall for the overpriced laptop gimmickDec 21 05:35
schestowitzsomeone just sent me  https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2020/12/how-and-why-i-stopped-buying-new-laptops.htmlDec 21 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solar.lowtechmagazine.com | How and why I stopped buying new laptops | LOW←TECH MAGAZINEDec 21 05:35
schestowitz[21:40] <MinceR> (audio:important) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/705738.webmDec 21 05:40
schestowitzLOLDec 21 05:40
schestowitzthat was unexpectedDec 21 05:40
DaemonFC[m]CNN had a Cyperpunk 2077 is broken and here's what to play instead.Dec 21 05:56
DaemonFC[m]When they mentioned "Cloudpunk" and then went something something you get to fly a hover car, I knew it would be crap.Dec 21 05:57
DaemonFC[m]Ohhh, Terminator Resistance. Wonder if that's any good?Dec 21 05:58
schestowitzI took FSFE to court. This is my story https://write.as/malinagalina/i-took-fsfe-to-court oh, wow.Dec 21 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-write.as | --------- I took FSFE to court. — malinagalinaDec 21 06:01
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.guidingtech.com/uninstall-remove-onedrive-windows/Dec 21 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.guidingtech.com | A Guide to Uninstall OneDrive Completely From WindowsDec 21 07:06
DaemonFC[m]Somehow it manages to take up 150 MB of the SSD to give you 5 GB of "free space" on Microsoft's clown.Dec 21 07:06
DaemonFC[m]Hard pass.Dec 21 07:06
DaemonFC[m]Might as well get rid of the "Feedback Hub".Dec 21 07:10
DaemonFC[m]Bunch of people who can't spell using it as an unmoderated alt-Nazi platform.Dec 21 07:10
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scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeEERdbfH0cDec 21 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple slaves REVOLT, destroy factory over $7/month pay - YouTubeDec 21 07:41
scientesthis is quite sadDec 21 07:41
scientesneoliberalism is a religionDec 21 07:41
scientesit is so clear they would get better results with better payDec 21 07:42
scientesthis is the real reason China will winDec 21 07:42
scientes(and Russia's serf culture prevents it from doing much domestic manufacturing, to its detriment)Dec 21 07:43
scientesIt is quite something to be able to tell a iPhone owner that people that make those things literally set the factory on fire.Dec 21 08:05
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBCC3zab3ioDec 21 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Taiwan's Apple factory in India was smashed by 2000 people - YouTubeDec 21 08:06
scienteswhile I wouldn't put it above the CCP to incite something like that I don't see any evidence of it yetDec 21 08:08
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schestowitz> It looks like you are doing well.  Be thankful for any government response Dec 21 09:59
schestowitz> better than the cruelty inflicted here.  Dec 21 09:59
schestowitz> Dec 21 09:59
schestowitz> Needless to say, details here are confidential.  People at the hospital are Dec 21 09:59
schestowitz> under an effective information lockdown, much as they were for the ransomware Dec 21 09:59
schestowitz> attack.  That is part of the unimaginable awfulness here and a part that Dec 21 09:59
schestowitz> every other disaster just makes worse. Dec 21 09:59
schestowitzMany people are nowadays learning about or becoming aware of the dangers of Windows ransomware in hospitals.Dec 21 09:59
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scienteshospitals also have devices where the power supply is linked to the device, so that if the transformer goes out you must but a whole new machineDec 21 10:14
scientesinstead of just a new power supplyDec 21 10:14
scientesthe US is just a giant pyramid scheme and game of musical chairsDec 21 10:15
scienteswith a massive parasitical loadDec 21 10:15
scienteseverybody switched careers to roles that revolve around swindling peopleDec 21 10:16
scientesso much so that even the engineering diciplines are heavily infectedDec 21 10:16
search_socialyeahDec 21 10:24
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Ariadnesignificant gender pay gaps at FSFE: https://write.as/malinagalina/i-took-fsfe-to-courtDec 21 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-write.as | --------- I took FSFE to court. — malinagalinaDec 21 12:34
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schestowitzAriadne: thanks, saw it half a day ago, it's in tuxmachines with comments for follow-upsDec 21 13:25
schestowitzI also sent it to DanielDec 21 13:25
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Ariadnehonestly FSFE is a huge disappointmentDec 21 14:06
Ariadnei always thought of them as having their shit together better than FSFDec 21 14:06
Ariadnebut turns out they are a really broken organizationDec 21 14:06
Ariadneit is truly unfortunatDec 21 14:06
AriadneeDec 21 14:06
schestowitzgeorg was okDec 21 14:08
schestowitzsometimes when an org passed to another person the devotion isn't there and the org gets milkedDec 21 14:08
schestowitzAriadne: https://fsfellowship.eu/court-case-fsfe-women-and-volunteers-face-modern-day-slavery/Dec 21 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfellowship.eu | Court case: Matthias Kirschner, FSFE women and volunteers face modern day slaveryDec 21 14:13
MinceRthe FSF is broken as wellDec 21 14:13
MinceRso it might still be true :>Dec 21 14:13
AriadneFSF is broken in many wayDec 21 14:15
Ariadneone silver lining of the stallman resignation was that perhaps they would have a course changeDec 21 14:15
Ariadneunfortunately does not seem to beDec 21 14:16
MinceRi did not expect that to happenDec 21 14:16
MinceRthey were full of pro-cancerd crybullies already before they cancelled RMSDec 21 14:16
Ariadneinstead, it is just more poorly thought out campaigns that antagonize the general public for using windowsDec 21 14:16
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Ariadnesystemd being a badly designed software does not mean it is non-free (:Dec 21 14:17
Ariadneit is copyleftDec 21 14:17
XRevan86Navalny called one of his FSB poisoners on a phone and got confirmation and additional details.Dec 21 14:18
AriadneyeahDec 21 14:18
Ariadnei was reading that storyDec 21 14:19
Ariadnefucking wildDec 21 14:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: What is pretty shocking is that the "Windows Ransomware Protection" actually breaks legitimate applications and also doesn't work and that Microsoft admits they have no plans to fix that.Dec 21 14:19
XRevan86To show that after the Putin's weak-ass babbling on the press-conference… I am thoroughly impressed.Dec 21 14:19
DaemonFC[m]It basically sets write protection on some folders so that normal file access doesn't work unless something is whitelisted to write there.Dec 21 14:19
DaemonFC[m]So in theory your documents and pictures and stuff are safe from being encrypted by ransomware. But there are other ways to write there, but legitimate applications would never do that.Dec 21 14:20
XRevan86https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/12/21/i-called-my-killer-and-he-confessedDec 21 14:20
DaemonFC[m]So it breaks applications for no security gain.Dec 21 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEDec 21 14:20
AriadnehmmphDec 21 14:20
Ariadnei broke resizeDec 21 14:20
Ariadneon my compositorDec 21 14:20
DaemonFC[m]"Putter", the GNOME compositing manager.Dec 21 14:21
DaemonFC[m]That should be what it's called. It putters around, even on a good computer.Dec 21 14:21
DaemonFC[m]Wayland simply makes things much worse. Canonical patched up some of the performance problems on X11 that GNOME was never going to fix.Dec 21 14:22
DaemonFC[m]But now with the X11 server being mothballed upstream to force people to use Wayland even as it doesn't perform well and many applications will never be ported to it properly, you won't have a choice.Dec 21 14:23
scientesMinceR, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Krr6EwuOQDec 21 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Solve Cancel Culture (Scientifically Proven Cure) - YouTubeDec 21 14:24
DaemonFC[m]Which is how Red Hat always ends up foisting crap that doesn't work on people, and pretty soon their cargo cult over at Debian will have a "vote" to ship the same configuration.Dec 21 14:24
scientesWoman want money to work?Dec 21 14:25
scientesWho knew?Dec 21 14:25
DaemonFC[m]This situation around "It's modern so who cares if it actually works?" got completely out of hand some time ago.Dec 21 14:25
*scientes thought they only wanted money for sexDec 21 14:25
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: As for UWP, it's basically going away as its own thing.Dec 21 14:26
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DaemonFC[m]Microsoft essentially admitted that uptake was poor even as they tried closing off the new APIs to applications from outside their store.Dec 21 14:26
XRevan86Ariadne: Do you think the UN will act now that all the allegations that Russia used chemical weapons are proven to be true?Dec 21 14:26
DaemonFC[m]So they're removing the fencing around the APIs and they'll just be available to everyone eventually.Dec 21 14:26
scientesthey automatically accuse EVERYONE of using chemical weaponsDec 21 14:26
scientesit is about equal to calling someone a potato-face to meDec 21 14:27
DaemonFC[m]So whatever work Wine does to implement UWP has not been wasted.Dec 21 14:27
MinceR21 151710 < Ariadne> systemd being a badly designed software does not mean it is non-free (:Dec 21 14:28
DaemonFC[m]Windows 8 was basically some fuck awful Windows 2.0 version of "metro" apps that turned a lot of users off to anything that even looked like one.Dec 21 14:28
MinceRit being designed to wrest control from the community and hand it to rh/ibm is what makes it nonfreeDec 21 14:28
DaemonFC[m]The fact is that systemd is monolithic. They actually torture the English language to describe it as modular.Dec 21 14:28
DaemonFC[m]Because it's designed so if you tear out the modules and try to use them, they don't work at all.Dec 21 14:29
MinceR> you won't have a choice.Dec 21 14:29
MinceRhopefully there will still be XenocaraDec 21 14:29
DaemonFC[m]It's big as life and twice as ugly.Dec 21 14:29
DaemonFC[m]It comes cram packed with all kind of stuff that won't be of any use at all in certain roles, but since it's not actually modular in the factual sense of the word, you can't trim it down to escape bloat and security problems that shouldn't happen in the context for which you are using it.Dec 21 14:30
MinceRscientes: lol @ videoDec 21 14:31
DaemonFC[m]I mean, by source lines, systemd is bigger than Linux at this point, iirc.Dec 21 14:31
DaemonFC[m]And if it's not, it's close to overtaking Linux.Dec 21 14:31
DaemonFC[m]And much of what it does is a poor reimplementation done by people who have no idea what they're doing. Not even how to do garbage collection so that it won't sit there and leak gigabytes of RAM.Dec 21 14:32
DaemonFC[m]Why should that be a surprise? The same kind of people manage GNOME, and they can't figure out why "Putter" is leaking RAM and only drawing the screen half as often as it should.Dec 21 14:33
DaemonFC[m]Or if someone finally does figure this out, it's only after it's been broken and nobody upstream cared for years. Dec 21 14:34
DaemonFC[m]Someone really needs to make open source great again. Long gone are the days where you release a program and then you just sit there refining it for years on end.Dec 21 14:35
DaemonFC[m]KDE/Qt are hardly blameless here. The Webkit Part was introduced. Applications started using it. It worked. Then they deprecated it and moved right along to Chromium as part of Qt, and here you have all these apps using the Webkit part, no security updates.Dec 21 14:36
DaemonFC[m]Distributions just go right on along building it as thousands of CVEs pile up.Dec 21 14:36
DaemonFC[m]The platform is not robust and stable and they don't really care what people who have spent a lot of time making a program must go through, and then they'll just shove in an API-incompatible replacement and abandon you.Dec 21 14:37
DaemonFC[m]So we have a lot of these major changes that are not invisible to the applications, and that's a big problem because nothing lasts.Dec 21 14:38
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft has sometimes put in ludicrous amounts of work to make sure that what old applications are doing works, even if the application is wrong. Even if Windows has changed dramatically and it has to work behind the scenes to redirect the behavior.Dec 21 14:39
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DaemonFC[m]I'm just not seeing that in a lot of stuff on Linux. You like your program and then one day it's just dead because the distribution or the people in charge of the API decided fuck you.Dec 21 14:40
DaemonFC[m]It's gotten amazingly incompatible with older applications. Sometimes for no real concrete gains at all.Dec 21 14:41
DaemonFC[m]LTS releases spare you some of that transitional pain, but those go out of support.Dec 21 14:41
DaemonFC[m]You can put a Windows application from 1996 that plays MP3s on Windows 10 and it will still play MP3s. In Linux, they removed the OSS API from major distributions and older applications that want to play sound don't. The only way to fix them would be to compile a kernel that's a few KB bigger.Dec 21 14:43
DaemonFC[m]The result is that even the Linux binaries for Doom 3 don't function properly anymore. There's no sound since years ago and I don't even know that they would start up anyway.Dec 21 14:43
DaemonFC[m]So you have to go grab the Windows version even though it was ported.Dec 21 14:44
DaemonFC[m]Borderlands 2 got a Linux port. You're better off with the Windows version in Proton.Dec 21 14:44
MinceRwhat happened to OSS emulation in ALSA?Dec 21 14:44
DaemonFC[m]Why are we better off with Windows software than a native port? Because the port worked when they built it and then something stupid happened, usually.Dec 21 14:45
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "what happened to OSS emulation i"> At least Ubuntu and Fedora disabled it at build time.Dec 21 14:45
DaemonFC[m]What we need are robust APIs that don't change much, and are actually supportable for decades to come. Dec 21 14:46
DaemonFC[m]But when Red Hat is shoveling systemd builds into "Enterprise" Linux that sit there and leak out all your RAM over the course of a couple of weeks.Dec 21 14:46
DaemonFC[m]Great server. Fantastic server OS.Dec 21 14:46
MinceRwe used to have robust APIsDec 21 14:47
MinceRnow we have waylandows, poetteringaudio and cancerdDec 21 14:47
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I know, and I really am angry in saying this, but Red Hat corrupted Linux to the point where Windows 10 has managed to at least be in the same ball park as far as reliability.Dec 21 14:49
DaemonFC[m]I don't think Windows 10 has made huge progress. I think that Red Hat's been slowly corrupting things in subtle ways so that it all comes together and you have a gigantic mess that hoses itself unpredictably now.Dec 21 14:49
MinceRthat is, if you use their distros :>Dec 21 14:49
*psydroid put OpenBSD on his old AMD desktop last week over Debian/OpenSUSEDec 21 14:50
DaemonFC[m]I'm wondering what would have been terribly hard about adding transparent compression and error resiliency to Ext4 and just calling it Ext5 or something.Dec 21 14:51
DaemonFC[m]Moving RHEL off to XFS was a serious what the hell is this crap.Dec 21 14:51
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MinceRwhy, XFS has those?Dec 21 14:52
MinceRthe XFS i remember had the opposite of error resilienceDec 21 14:52
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the journaling method in particular.Dec 21 14:52
MinceRmaybe someone else did that and hedrat just made use of itDec 21 14:53
DaemonFC[m]You can set Ext4 to do something similar, and the result is that the journal won't be reliably updated.Dec 21 14:53
DaemonFC[m]In exchange for a very small performance improvement that you won't notice.Dec 21 14:53
DaemonFC[m]I don't think it's productive to go back to a 1990s file system made for a different operating system that is not at all amenable to being expanded. Dec 21 14:54
AriadneXRevan86: probably notDec 21 14:55
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AriadneXRevan86: trump loves putinDec 21 14:55
DaemonFC[m]They seem to be packing it with things that they know will cause problems.Dec 21 14:55
Ariadneand the US dominates the UN even stillDec 21 14:55
DaemonFC[m]So that their customers won't dare use it without support incidents.Dec 21 14:55
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DaemonFC[m]I think the destruction of CentOS should be a hard wake up call to IT people to move to something else.Dec 21 14:56
MinceRsounds like people were continually working on XFS thoughDec 21 14:56
DaemonFC[m]Not go looking for another rebuild where it copies over all of Red Hat's chicanery as-is and will eventually be taken over again or otherwise manipulated.Dec 21 14:56
AriadnehmmDec 21 14:56
MinceRIT is not an industry where people understand wake-up callsDec 21 14:56
Ariadnei've never had problems with xfsDec 21 14:57
AriadneMinceR: actually, wayland itself is quite robust.  the problem is the ecosystem around it is not.Dec 21 14:57
Ariadnei've spent the weekend retconning a new ecosystem :)Dec 21 14:58
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psydroidI did have problems with xfs, especially on sudden shutdownDec 21 14:58
MinceRyeah, it robustly avoids most features necessary for it to be usable :>Dec 21 14:58
Ariadnewhat i've come up with is quite usableDec 21 14:58
MinceRand if someone hacks it into their implementation, it will be an incompatible element of the APIDec 21 14:58
psydroidbut I told the xfs developers about them and they were eventually fixedDec 21 14:58
psydroidnow I don't really have it in use anywhere, thoughDec 21 14:59
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20071619Dec 21 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4758052)Dec 21 15:09
DaemonFC[m]https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/12/16/apples-m1-macbook-air-smashes-windows-on-arm-in-new-benchmarksDec 21 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's M1 MacBook Air smashes Windows on ARM in new benchmarks | AppleInsiderDec 21 15:11
DaemonFC[m]The x86 emulator for the Windows 10 on ARM is pretty awful, apparently.Dec 21 15:11
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MinceR>ultraportable   >1.3 kgDec 21 15:14
*MinceR laughsDec 21 15:14
CrystalMathwell if you're Hulk Hogan, maybe 1.3 kg is like nothingDec 21 15:15
MinceRMacBook Air? more like MacBook Lead.Dec 21 15:15
MinceRMacBook UraniumDec 21 15:15
MinceRMacBook Tennessine!Dec 21 15:16
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DaemonFC[m]I don't get why they think people will run out and buy Windows on ARM stuff.Dec 21 15:19
MinceRfor the usual reasonDec 21 15:19
MinceRpeople are stupidDec 21 15:19
DaemonFC[m]It's all expensive, the x86 emulator is crap, and nobody is really producing software that works on the native CPU.Dec 21 15:19
MinceRit's expensive, it has a glowing logo... that already has dumbasses scrambling and queueing to buy itDec 21 15:20
MinceRoh, you didn't mean running Backdoors on the MacBook Hot Air, did you?Dec 21 15:20
DaemonFC[m]No.Dec 21 15:21
MinceRthe MacBook OganessonDec 21 15:21
DaemonFC[m]I mean, it's possible that Microsoft would port Windows 10 to the M1. They really need the money.Dec 21 15:21
DaemonFC[m]Windows revenue is flat, and even with throwing all of this adware and spyware in it, they can't increase it much.Dec 21 15:22
DaemonFC[m]Nobody learned any lessons in the 1990s, that most people don't respond to ads and that ads have very little actual value.Dec 21 15:22
MinceRads seem to have worked out pretty well for the redmond mafiaDec 21 15:23
MinceRthey advertised that they "<3 Linux", which was an obvious lie, yet there are lots of people i know who believe itDec 21 15:23
DaemonFC[m]In the dotcom crash, the value of ad impressions fell to about 1/1000th of what they were claimed to be.Dec 21 15:24
DaemonFC[m]I'm surprised that anyone wants to step in that mess again.Dec 21 15:24
DaemonFC[m]ugh....Dec 21 15:26
DaemonFC[m]I typed in "why does my" into DuckDuckGo and it returns "Why does my vagina smell?".Dec 21 15:27
DaemonFC[m]Google has gone through and fixed most of this stuff.Dec 21 15:27
MinceRlolDec 21 15:27
DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/opinions/vacancies-act-trump-berry/index.htmlDec 21 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump's abuse of 'acting' officials is ripe for change by Biden. - CNNDec 21 15:28
DaemonFC[m]Because the federal courts have emphasized the "Acting" part and have started throwing out regulations that the law does not allow them to make?Dec 21 15:28
DaemonFC[m]:)Dec 21 15:28
MinceR:)Dec 21 15:29
DaemonFC[m]The only thing an "Acting" secretary can do is enforce the day to day operations with the existing rules of their agency until Congress confirms a new permanent official.Dec 21 15:29
DaemonFC[m]The whole point of Senate confirmation is so that the president cannot put whoever he wants in there with no oversight. Dec 21 15:29
MinceRhttps://existentialcomics.com/comic/359Dec 21 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | The Wise Man on the Mountain - Existential ComicsDec 21 15:30
DaemonFC[m]"That's why, as the Constitutional Accountability Center has documented, dozens of Trump Administration officials now have unwieldy titles like "Performing the nonexclusive functions and duties of the Assistant Secretary for Export Enforcement" and "senior official performing the duties of the Director, US Citizenship and Immigration Services.""Dec 21 15:31
DaemonFC[m]LOLDec 21 15:31
MinceRlol wutDec 21 15:32
DaemonFC[m]Performing None of the Functions of Acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Chad Wolf -Federal JudgesDec 21 15:32
MinceRPerforming None of the Functions of the President of the United States of AmericaDec 21 15:33
DaemonFC[m]Since he wasn't legally in charge of anything, does that mean he owes his paychecks back to the government?Dec 21 15:33
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/a552f7ba26b56bcd099bb15af3817d1e77efd409Dec 21 15:35
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.zdnet.com/article/why-red-hat-dumped-centos-for-centos-stream/Dec 21 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Red Hat dumped CentOS for CentOS Stream | ZDNetDec 21 16:02
DaemonFC[m]A former Red Hat exec admits they killed CentOS because they viewed its users as parasites who weren't buying licenses.Dec 21 16:03
MinceRthat's probably what all GNU and Linux users are to hedratDec 21 16:03
DaemonFC[m]Turns out that Red Hat was considering getting rid of CentOS 6 years ago, and just didn't get around to pulling the plug until now, and one of the backers of "Kill CentOS" is now a Program Manager at Microsoft.Dec 21 16:03
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: ^Dec 21 16:04
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20072848Dec 21 16:04
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DaemonFC[m]"Still another ex-Red Hat official said. If it wasn't for CentOS, Red Hat would have been a 10-billion dollar company before Red Hat became a billion-dollar business."Dec 21 16:04
DaemonFC[m]See what they're doing? They got all of this open source software for free and, yeah, they put some money into it, but not the $14 billion dollars it would have cost to develop on their own.Dec 21 16:05
DaemonFC[m]Which, they don't even mention, that at no point in their history before the IBM takeover, they would have had.Dec 21 16:05
DaemonFC[m]They never had the dollar value to invest that it would have taken to create something like RHEL, and now they are of the position that (1) it's all rightfully theirs and (2) the open source programs that they took advantage of and maybe put 10% of the resources into are to blame for why they're not 10x more valuable than they are now, despite the fact that they otherwise would have had nothing at all.Dec 21 16:07
DaemonFC[m]Instead of being gracious and respectful (which is, ironically, what they COMMAND of others with Codes of Conduct), this is bullying and entitlement mentality at its worst at Red Hat.Dec 21 16:08
DaemonFC[m]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-practice/201303/9-types-entitlement-tendencies-and-how-overcome-themDec 21 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.psychologytoday.com | 9 Types of Entitlement Tendencies and How to Overcome Them | Psychology TodayDec 21 16:11
DaemonFC[m]LOL @ "You freeload. For example, you use torrenting programs to download movies rather than paying for them."Dec 21 16:11
smnthermesZDNet says:Dec 21 16:11
smnthermes> No, it wasn't IBM calling the shotsDec 21 16:11
smnthermesSo IBM made a simbolic acquisition? LolDec 21 16:11
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, bittorrent is 60% all internet traffic, I believe. And, what is freeloading and entitlement, really? Expecting your users to pay $100 a month for various streaming apps that all have 1-2 shows on them that are probably going to get canceled once they invest interest and time into them because your production budget is getting up there on Lost In Space and you can license movies about people fucking squids veryDec 21 16:13
DaemonFC[m]cheaply and up the monthly fee $3 because why not.Dec 21 16:13
MinceRibm spent a ton of money on something they don't control?Dec 21 16:13
MinceRis that the story i'm supposed to buy?Dec 21 16:13
DaemonFC[m]My position on DRM is that they're free to try and that it never works.Dec 21 16:14
MinceRlolDec 21 16:14
DaemonFC[m]But they pay people to sit there and write DRM software that doesn't work, which is a drag on paying customers. Is that freeloading?Dec 21 16:15
DaemonFC[m]DRM cheats the customer. It inflates your costs, and you charge them to write it, it interferes with them and may even totally screw up their computer, and in return for paying you money, someone else gets it for free with no DRM and better compression and integrated DLCs, with a nicer installer that plays warez music.Dec 21 16:17
DaemonFC[m]If anyone ever does invent DRM that works, it's going to be a dark day for computer users everywhere, and I don't think the industry is doing what they think they're doing.Dec 21 16:18
DaemonFC[m]They think that new PC sales are in the shitter now.Dec 21 16:18
DaemonFC[m]Just wait.Dec 21 16:18
DaemonFC[m]The people who believe that they are entitled to sit on their asses and cash fat paychecks because of "intellectual property" are in quite the pickle, as the virus ravages the American and indeed the world economy, and the pool of people who roll up their sleeves and work to earn a tiny paycheck that have anything left to spend on them is rapidly drying up.Dec 21 16:20
DaemonFC[m]I think Princess Leia probably said it the best to Governor Tarkin. The more you tighten your grip, the more it will all slip through your fingers. Dec 21 16:22
DaemonFC[m]With streaming, these companies are at civil war ruining each other because of cost multiplication driving down the value of their individual platforms.Dec 21 16:22
DaemonFC[m]With video games, they keep coming out with the video game that ruins Christmas as an annual tradition that dates back, at least on Windows, to 1994.Dec 21 16:23
DaemonFC[m]When Compaq shipped computers with a graphics driver they didn't test against Microsoft's WinG libraries, and Disney's support lines were ringing off the hook with pissed off parents who bought The Lion King and all it did was crash Windows so often you couldn't play it.Dec 21 16:24
DaemonFC[m]Here we are 26 years later, and it's Cyberpunk 2077.Dec 21 16:24
DaemonFC[m]They're in such a hurry to get things out that they release something that shouldn't be powering anything more complex than an E3 demo as the game itself.Dec 21 16:25
DaemonFC[m]CDPR may actually go bankrupt because this game is so broken.Dec 21 16:26
MinceRi hope notDec 21 16:29
DaemonFC[m]It looks like they spent a lot of money to get Keanu Reeves to play the malware AI and that it tanked actual game development.Dec 21 16:29
MinceRand from what i've heard, it's actually not that broken :>Dec 21 16:29
DaemonFC[m]I plan to wait until there's at least another game patch and newer driver's from Intel.Dec 21 16:30
MinceRi plan to wait until it gets cheaper and/or i run out of other games to playDec 21 16:30
DaemonFC[m]Because they still have significant issues to pin down on Xe with their graphics drivers.Dec 21 16:30
DaemonFC[m]It seems they're more stable with older versions of DirectX than they are with DirectX 12.Dec 21 16:30
DaemonFC[m]Most of the known problems are DX 12 titles.Dec 21 16:30
DaemonFC[m]I suppose they reused a lot of older code that basically works so that's not surprising, really.Dec 21 16:31
DaemonFC[m]"You think it’s okay to upset or offend other people. You see people who like to keep the peace as weak."Dec 21 16:32
DaemonFC[m]Speaking of which, I wonder if the new Firefly will have the return of Book.Dec 21 16:32
DaemonFC[m]He seemed to try excessively to keep the peace and even gave the Reavers the benefit of the doubt, saying that whatever they are they're still human.Dec 21 16:34
DaemonFC[m]Of course, given that when he was shot they took him to an Alliance medical ship that refused him treatment until they saw his identification, and then scrambled to get him to the infirmary, it was likely even before the comics that he was either a spy or some kind of high ranking Alliance official.Dec 21 16:35
DaemonFC[m]Since he was high ranking alliance either way (even if "retired"), it's likely that he knew full well what the Reavers were and was just trying to play it off because they don't like people knowing it was an attempt to make people too passive to resist them, with drugs, that went horribly wrong. Dec 21 16:37
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: You don't really need drugs to make people too afraid to resist you.Dec 21 16:37
schestowitz[16:11] <smnthermes> So IBM made a simbolic acquisition? LolDec 21 16:38
schestowitzgithub is not MicrosoftDec 21 16:38
schestowitzjust a coincidence :-)Dec 21 16:38
DaemonFC[m]You need the Super Cold and a military to launch tear gas and rubber bullets at the complainers.Dec 21 16:38
DaemonFC[m]Like the US.Dec 21 16:38
DaemonFC[m]Speaking of which, the people who were doing the tear gas and rubber bullets said they would send me a letter so I know when to appear to ask them to let my spouse stay.Dec 21 16:39
DaemonFC[m]Taking pot shots at CNN with the bean bag and pepper rounds because fuck it. Nobody in this administration will punish them for it.Dec 21 16:40
DaemonFC[m]Military leadership was apparently "concerned" that Trump was passing out battle dress uniforms to ICE while they attacked and kidnapped Americans and shot "less lethal munitions" at the news.Dec 21 16:41
DaemonFC[m]Of course, had they been concerned enough, that would have been the moment they arrested Donald Trump and set up a transitional government pending an election.Dec 21 16:41
DaemonFC[m]Donald Trump is a domestic enemy who is spazzing out worse every day about having lost the election, and nobody will step in and get rid of him. I think the reason he hasn't called "Marshall"[sic] law yet is because the top brass in the military could end up refusing to carry it out.Dec 21 16:43
DaemonFC[m]If he really thought he could get away with it, he would have done it already.Dec 21 16:44
search_sociali like how bernie bros are still mad that some people don't sell out their supporters to the establishmentDec 21 16:46
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's impossible to read that article, with what the Red Hat people say themselves, and not walk away with the conclusion that they have turned actively hostile against open source and community.Dec 21 16:46
DaemonFC[m]It started out as a sort of passive-aggressive contempt.Dec 21 16:47
DaemonFC[m]I only voted for Biden because it was the only way to get rid of Trump.Dec 21 16:48
DaemonFC[m]Nobody else who could act was interested in doing so.Dec 21 16:48
DaemonFC[m]Even as he ruined our country, sold us out to our enemies, and betrayed the constitution....nobody would act.Dec 21 16:48
search_socialare you talking about biden or bernieDec 21 16:49
DaemonFC[m]He's still trying to knock over the constitution to stay in after losing the election and nobody's really doing much except letting his term expire.Dec 21 16:49
search_socialno that doesn't narrow it downDec 21 16:49
search_socialprovide more detailsDec 21 16:49
DaemonFC[m]The constitution says there's only one thing that can happen on January 20th, and that is Trump's term expires and he ceases to be the president.Dec 21 16:49
DaemonFC[m]But people should have stopped him long before this.Dec 21 16:50
search_socialhold on i just checked the constitutionDec 21 16:50
DaemonFC[m]The military would have been well within their rights to stop an enemy of the constitution.Dec 21 16:50
search_socialit says anyone that commits voter fraud will be hangedDec 21 16:50
search_socialwell we can agree on that partDec 21 16:50
DaemonFC[m]Congress should have convicted him on the impeachment.Dec 21 16:50
search_socialin fact i can think of a long lists of enemiesDec 21 16:50
search_socialcan you stop using pronouns please it's very unclear whether you talking about biden or bernie when you use pronounsDec 21 16:51
DaemonFC[m]Everyone who could act did not act and now the only thing that can stop him is his term expiring. He should have never made it this far once he started attacking American citizens and committing what would be war crimes if it was a war, on detained immigrants.Dec 21 16:51
search_socialokay i think it's bernie you are talking aboutDec 21 16:51
search_socialbecause i don't think he lets immigrants stay in his 4 mansionsDec 21 16:52
DaemonFC[m]If Trump did to prisoners of war what he did to immigrants, he would be a war criminal.Dec 21 16:52
search_sociali think we should ship the entire population of haiti straight to daemon's houseDec 21 16:52
DaemonFC[m]Then other countries failed to act in the name of human rights.Dec 21 16:52
DaemonFC[m]They should have enacted sanctions, like they do with North Korea.Dec 21 16:53
DaemonFC[m]They should have expelled the American diplomats from their embassies.Dec 21 16:54
DaemonFC[m]Well, China did, but only because we did it to them first.Dec 21 16:54
DaemonFC[m]There's just not a lot of difference between China and what Trump is trying to turn America into.Dec 21 16:54
DaemonFC[m]He's suppressing US citizens the same way China has gone about dealing with Hong Kong Independence protesters. Dec 21 16:55
DaemonFC[m]Paramilitary crackdowns, censorship, legal intimidation, "national security" orders.Dec 21 16:56
search_socialyeah trump's antifa has been an incredible drain on the countryDec 21 16:56
search_socialhang them all i sayDec 21 16:56
DaemonFC[m]Facebook enabled him, and they supported his disinformation campaigns.Dec 21 16:56
DaemonFC[m]And now he's going after them for not doing more to let him lie and bullshit people.Dec 21 16:56
search_socialyup a lot of antifa organizing going on trump's facebookDec 21 16:56
DaemonFC[m]Facebook lets right wing terrorists plot every detail of their crime.Dec 21 16:57
DaemonFC[m]Then they only react once something has happened, like Wisconsin.Dec 21 16:57
DaemonFC[m]The feds could have swooped in and stopped that. They didn't. The police could have arrested Rittenhouse right there for the murders, and they gave him ice water.Dec 21 16:58
search_social3 antifa membersDec 21 16:58
search_social3 attempted murderersDec 21 16:58
search_socialall stopped by good guy with a gunDec 21 16:58
DaemonFC[m]"5. You freeload. For example, you use torrenting programs to download movies rather than paying for them."Dec 21 16:59
DaemonFC[m]I'd change that.Dec 21 16:59
DaemonFC[m]"5. You freeload. For example, you get on BitTorrent and then download without seeding at least one entire copy back into the swarm."Dec 21 17:00
DaemonFC[m]entitlement mentalityDec 21 17:00
DaemonFC[m]"4. You disregard rules that are intended for everyone’s comfort. For example, you ignore signs asking you to please not put your feet on the chairs at the movies."Dec 21 17:01
DaemonFC[m]It's Illinois, everyone disregards the signs. When there was a "movies", you were happy if all they did was put their feet on the empty seats in front of them, and didn't talk all the way through the movie and have their phone going off with all those iPhone noises and firing up a joint until the whole theater smelled like two skunks skunked each other and then fired up a joint.Dec 21 17:02
DaemonFC[m]Of course, they talk about this response as "moral licensing".Dec 21 17:02
DaemonFC[m]So, in other words, you're guilty of entitlement mentality if you kick your feet up and go, "Well, they're talking and smoking weed.".Dec 21 17:02
DaemonFC[m]1. "You expect the same rules that apply to others shouldn’t apply to you."Dec 21 17:04
DaemonFC[m]Every government ever.Dec 21 17:04
DaemonFC[m]Why do you think Nancy Pelosi was getting a blowout, or Gavin Newsom was at the French Laundry Incident, or why the US military pirates thousands of copies of various programs and only pays up once they're caught while Congress passes DMCA and shit?Dec 21 17:05
DaemonFC[m]I mean, it's not like with $1.7 trillion annual budget they can afford to license some software.Dec 21 17:05
DaemonFC[m]Licensing software is for chumps!Dec 21 17:05
DaemonFC[m]6. "You inconvenience others without thinking."Dec 21 17:06
DaemonFC[m]Also the government.Dec 21 17:06
DaemonFC[m]Here, we'll just close down the DMV for several months but we'll leave the mall open, because that'll really slow down the Coronavirus.Dec 21 17:06
DaemonFC[m]And while the mall is open, you can't go to a restaurant. The virus likes spreading at restaurants but not the mall for some reason.Dec 21 17:07
DaemonFC[m]Also, mall workers have essential jobs, but restaurant workers don't.Dec 21 17:07
DaemonFC[m]And even though we caused mass unemployment, don't expect any assistance, and if you do get assistance don't expect it to continue. And if you take any assistance, expect your Republican relatives to say there's jobs out there and you're lazy.Dec 21 17:08
DaemonFC[m]"You think it’s okay to upset or offend other people."Dec 21 17:09
DaemonFC[m]You can't possibly know what people will take offense at. Victimhood mentality is another psychological defect that causes people to seek out things to be offended by even if they don't have to, and under this blanket rule of "thinking it's okay to offend" you must be responsible for having offended these people, even though this is gaslighting. Dec 21 17:10
DaemonFC[m]Victimhood mentality is a neurosis and some comedians' act is entirely predicated upon causing these people angst so that they will complain and thus complete the joke. Dec 21 17:11
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DaemonFC[m]If they would let go then people would stop trying to get a rise out of them and then we wouldn't need Codes of Conduct. People try to provoke people with victimhood mentality because it's entertaining to watch them go off. Dec 21 17:13
DaemonFC[m]Or as a parent would say to a child, "If you quit giving them what they want, they'll stop.".Dec 21 17:14
DaemonFC[m]"You cheat in environments that are based on reciprocity."Dec 21 17:15
DaemonFC[m]People tend to turn to "cheating" when something is so difficult that the effort with which to cheat becomes substantially lower than the effort required to follow the rules.Dec 21 17:15
MinceR21 180722 < DaemonFC[m]> And while the mall is open, you can't go to a restaurant. The virus likes spreading at restaurants but not the mall for some reason.Dec 21 17:15
MinceRin hungary, SARS-CoV-2 likes spreading only between 20:00 and 5:00Dec 21 17:16
DaemonFC[m]Many systems are needlessly complex to discourage people from even trying to accomplish something, which gives rise to cheating. Dec 21 17:16
MinceRand it's afraid of dogs, but only if the dog is within 500m of its home.Dec 21 17:16
DaemonFC[m]People who follow the rules often end up accomplishing very little in competitive organizations because while they're busy dicking around crossing the t's and dotting the i's, some incompetent asshole with no moral center will rise above them and be the one in charge.Dec 21 17:17
DaemonFC[m]In other words, rules are intended to get in the way and they're often imposed so that people who follow the rules can't get in the way of people who don't. Dec 21 17:18
DaemonFC[m]Therefore, people who get ahead selectively follow rules, but only to the extent that other people will notice and/or stop them if they don't.Dec 21 17:19
MinceRindeedDec 21 17:21
DaemonFC[m]In Office Space, he gets hypnotized to where he doesn't care anymore, and then he comes in and admits to the Bobs that his boss is such an idiot that he figured out ways to not come in until noon, play video games on the computer while nobody is around, and only do minutes of actual work per day.Dec 21 17:21
DaemonFC[m]And nobody notices because the boss doesn't even understand what their jobs are.Dec 21 17:21
DaemonFC[m]And you go well that's just a movie, but it's not.Dec 21 17:22
DaemonFC[m]Things that bad can and do go on at real organizationsDec 21 17:22
DaemonFC[m]A relative works for a big organization where they hired a CEO who was embezzling money.Dec 21 17:23
DaemonFC[m]Worse, he hired all of his friends and stuffed them in the IT department.Dec 21 17:23
DaemonFC[m]To this day the entire system goes down unpredictably, nobody knows how to fix it, and it might take hours before it feels like letting anyone sign on again.Dec 21 17:24
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DaemonFC[m]Almost like the "cloud software" gets into these weird moods.Dec 21 17:25
DaemonFC[m]Since it's proprietary software mandated by the government running on an Amazon computer, nobody really knows why or how it does or doesn't work.Dec 21 17:26
DaemonFC[m]But they get paychecks to say they're IT professionals.Dec 21 17:26
DaemonFC[m]Even though all they can do is get on the phone with someone.Dec 21 17:26
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Microsoft has backed off forced updates to untested feature releases of Windows 10 for the most part.Dec 21 17:28
DaemonFC[m]They don't get automatically installed for up to 18 months. Every third release they force people onto a newer (but not the latest) build.Dec 21 17:29
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MinceRgood, sounds like they're getting desperate for usersDec 21 17:29
DaemonFC[m]It's a major admission that "Windows as a Service" doesn't work because there's such a diversity of PC hardware that you can't make sure the rollout goes well.Dec 21 17:29
DaemonFC[m]Even then, it's advisable if you proceed with a major Windows update to make sure you have the latest drivers and BIOS update.Dec 21 17:30
DaemonFC[m]But this huge delay in pushing new builds to users means that by the time one gets forced on them, it's a year or so behind the latest build.Dec 21 17:31
DaemonFC[m]So whatever drivers they have are likely to work.Dec 21 17:31
DaemonFC[m]Previously, Microsoft made whatever changes it wanted to and then shoved it out and asked Telemetry how that went.Dec 21 17:31
DaemonFC[m]They had to back off on so many builds that it became a recurring theme.Dec 21 17:32
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't seem like the builds are as ambitious anymore either.Dec 21 17:32
DaemonFC[m]https://www.howtogeek.com/685996/whats-new-in-windows-10s-21h1-update-coming-spring-2021/Dec 21 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | What’s New in Windows 10’s 21H1 Update, Coming Spring 2021Dec 21 17:34
DaemonFC[m]System-wide support for DNS over HTTPS.Dec 21 17:34
DaemonFC[m]Hmmm... Means adguard dns should work systemwide just by pointing it there.Dec 21 17:34
DaemonFC[m]DoHDec 21 17:35
DaemonFC[m]Unintentially gives ClownFlare a gigantic supercookie...... DoH!!!!Dec 21 17:35
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DaemonFC[m]Here's what I sent to the seller on ebay who says they don't know why the post office isn't delivering my package:Dec 21 17:46
DaemonFC[m]I'll probably just give it another week or so. I understand that this is not your fault and have no intention of complaining to ebay when the post office can't even figure out why it had to go from Kansas City to Indianapolis, to a scan loop at St. Louis over a three week period.Dec 21 17:46
DaemonFC[m]As for not getting satisfying answers from the post office....the high speed mail sorting machines that Trump/DeJoy busted up for the attempted election rigging probably would have helped, but it's not like they'll ever be allowed to say that, and just imagine what it's like to be a mail carrier right now... "Merry Christmas"Dec 21 17:46
DaemonFC[m]I'll get back to you if it doesn't show up soon.Dec 21 17:46
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: cost of dictatorshipDec 21 18:06
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20072812Dec 21 20:33
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smnthermes> ‎[14:35:40] ‎DaemonFC[m]‎: Unintentially gives ClownFlare a gigantic supercookie...... DoH!!!!Dec 21 20:59
smnthermesD'Oh!Dec 21 21:00
MinceRRevenge of DoHDec 21 21:02
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MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20071540Dec 21 21:14
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20072811Dec 21 21:48
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20072748Dec 21 22:19
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MinceR(audio) https://i.imgur.com/42a0fjf.mp4Dec 21 22:42
MinceR(cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/22/02615cb84ada8410.jpgDec 21 23:09
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vZS1I had to look again to make sure that's a catDec 21 23:36
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/24/6543946097f1ea94.jpgDec 21 23:36
vZS1I read that as "Unbearable"Dec 21 23:38
MinceRalso trueDec 21 23:38
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