●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 ●● ● Mar 22 [00:02] *CrystalMath (~coderain@pmzkstc8k8zvc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:03] *mjg59_ (~mjg59@ajm54sra9b86c.irc) has joined #techrights [00:04] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [00:06] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@sy7ss5msyeqgk.irc) has joined #techrights [00:07] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 29.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.95 [00:16] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[00:52] prost the other day distrowatch was down [00:53] *matey (~matey@4ib67bpjevnsu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:58] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/mildly-terrifying-images-15.jpg [00:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/mildly-terrifying-images-15.jpg [00:59] *matey has quit (connection closed) ● Mar 22 [01:07] prost whats that about? [01:12] chicksahoy i couldn't even ping irc.techrights.org [01:13] chicksahoy seems like a lot of people are offline now too [01:14] prost were? [01:17] chicksahoy here [01:18] prost there? [01:19] MinceR there wolf, there castle [01:26] prost fremont? [01:33] MinceR \_()_/ [01:35] *matey (~matey@xv9cfpnhn2ihe.irc) has joined #techrights [01:40] prost isnt this server at freemont? [01:41] prost how many dirtypipe articles does the world needs? [01:43] prost people will need to buy older android models now [01:46] MinceR dunno [01:48] prost it is a cause of concern for owners of new mobile devices that were released in 2022 as most of the devices came with Android 12 in 2022. [01:51] activelow year 2022, never touched nor used a smartphone with Android or iOS, never, not once. [01:55] matey never touched nor used a smartphone with Android or iOS, never, not once. <- good idea [01:56] matey how many dirtypipe articles does the world needs? <- as many as it takes for putin to continue fighting with everyone thinking about windows instead [01:56] matey or wait, is it android [01:56] matey hell, whats the difference. microsoft is windows, google is android [01:57] matey same problem different brand [01:57] *prost starts sketching up a FB page for activelow [01:58] matey /me renames android gsl (google subsystem for linux) [01:58] prost you /me isnt working [01:59] matey i know its the damnedest thing [01:59] matey ive tried everything [01:59] matey /me shrugs [01:59] matey i can do this of course [01:59] matey ACTION does this [01:59] matey but i dont think thats better [01:59] prost you ineract everyday with people using such devices ● Mar 22 [02:00] activelow i see there is many new participants [02:00] *activelow is curious [02:00] activelow where are you residing? [02:01] *MinceR renames systemd to iss (ibm subsystem for systemd-kerneld) [02:01] matey systemd-kerneld <- coming soon [02:01] MinceR indeed [02:02] matey 100% rust [02:02] matey no other code [02:02] matey only runs on pluton [02:02] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:02] MinceR no, they'll just rename Linux [02:02] matey mincer: "no one was maintaining it so we added it to systemd" [02:02] *chicksahoy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:02] *CrystalMath has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:02] prost fuchia [02:03] *mjg59_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:03] matey fuchia: because to make something that sucks worse than android you have to build it from the ground up [02:03] matey or license it from microsoft, and this is google, so no [02:03] MinceR :> [02:04] prost you have to build it from the ground up so it becomes proprietary [02:04] matey in the future of course its just microsoft, google and amazon [02:04] matey no one else is left [02:04] matey they own all the media and all the tech companies [02:04] prost alibaba [02:04] matey and mincer decides not to be a pacifist anymore [02:05] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 24.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.95 [02:05] MinceR when was i a pacifist? [02:05] matey who have you killed? [02:05] MinceR parse error [02:05] MinceR oh, wait [02:05] MinceR nobody, as far as i know [02:05] activelow systemd/dbus/... can be removed; GCC can't be, and the kernel pushed aggressively for newer versions of GCC [02:05] matey maybe you just roughed them up a little [02:05] MinceR but it is not because of being a pacifist, which i am not [02:06] matey no im not really insisting those are your only options [02:06] prost the usa is starting to shun the "global" as chinese corps start to creep over [02:06] matey the usa shunning "global" is like the amish shunning hats and barns [02:06] prost wait and see [02:06] MinceR :) [02:07] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [02:07] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [02:07] matey "we wont have any of these kettles, pots only!" [02:07] matey global: "but we have all the oil, you know" [02:08] matey usa: "okay, maybe just a LITTLE bit of global" [02:08] matey thats the usa for you, the very model of moderation and prudence you know [02:08] prost LOL [02:09] matey canada "we have natural gas and electricity!" [02:09] matey usa: "oh i couldnt possibly, im on the new self-sufficiency diet" [02:09] matey mexico and china: "we have cheap labour!" [02:09] matey usa "no, stop, im not listening!" [02:10] *CrystalMath (~coderain@pmzkstc8k8zvc.irc) has joined #techrights [02:10] *mjg59_ (~mjg59@ajm54sra9b86c.irc) has joined #techrights [02:10] matey usa "ive had it with all this global nonsense, im going to new england to make shoes and live off the land" [02:11] matey banks and defence contractors: "dont worry, this sort of thing only lasts a week before it comes to its senses" [02:14] *AdmFubar1 (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [02:15] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:16] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:18] matey mjg59_ (not a trick question at all) how long do you think before we can replace miners with robots? [02:19] matey i figure in a non-fucked up world we could give them adequate safety equipment at least, but there are some situations where putting robots down there would be less... lethal [02:19] *mjg59_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:19] matey oh well, ping timeout [02:21] AdmFubar1 how do you now they haven't replace them??? [02:21] prost in a couple of years war will be waged by robots and all human victims will be collateral damage [02:22] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:22] AdmFubar1 as predicted by gene roddenberry [02:24] prost Roddenberry flew 89 combat missions in the Army Air Forces during World War II [02:26] AdmFubar1 whooopieeee!!!! [02:26] *matey (~matey@u6e4grxkxibun.irc) has joined #techrights [02:26] *chicksahoy (~reptoidz@3bqgtimdtkf6e.irc) has joined #techrights [02:27] *mjg59_ (~mjg59@ajm54sra9b86c.irc) has joined #techrights [02:27] prost On August 2, 1943, while flying B-17E-BO, 41-2463, "Yankee Doodle", out of Espiritu Santo, the plane Roddenberry was piloting overshot the runway by 500 feet (150 m) and crashed into trees, crushing the nose and starting a fire as well as killing two men [02:28] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [02:28] *CrystalMath has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:29] AdmFubar1 banzia! [02:30] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [02:31] prost AdmFubar the next one is on me [02:31] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:31] *mjg59_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:31] AdmFubar1 I hope it isn't cooties :P [02:32] *mjg59_ (~mjg59@ajm54sra9b86c.irc) has joined #techrights [02:33] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [02:34] prost is that an indian tribe? [02:35] *CrystalMath (~coderain@pmzkstc8k8zvc.irc) has joined #techrights [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-210322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-210322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-210322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-210322.txt [02:42] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, March 21, 2022 [02:43] *matey (~matey@agkps5rm7zn9y.irc) has joined #techrights [02:43] matey i can tell you what the "s" in "isp" stands for, and it isnt service [02:44] schestowitz-TR spying? surveillance? [02:44] MinceR excrement [02:45] prost satan [02:46] matey all good words [02:46] matey at any rate, my internet disservice provider is especially useless today [02:47] matey maybe its the russians, maybe they didnt pay the internet mafia this month, maybe the internet fairies are pissed off [02:48] matey could be solar flares [02:48] matey whatever it is, a modem reset heals all wounds [02:48] matey it just doesnt fix the bloody internet service [02:48] prost https://www.zdnet.com/education/how-to-become-amazon-software-engineer/ [02:48] TR Bot to become a software engineer at Amazon | ZDNet [02:48] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-03-21.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-03-21.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:49] prost Amazon's application process is intense and time-consuming, but it follows a set pattern. Persistence is key to becoming an Amazon software engineer. [02:49] prost amazon: we need to solve this problem. [02:49] matey Persistence is key to becoming an Amazon software engineer. <- its also key to unionising [02:50] matey though somehow i cant imagine union workers working hard to make it easier to replace them [02:50] AdmFubar soon to change name to Burger Czar https://www.icij.org/investigations/pandora-papers/burger-king-holds-a-quiet-stake-in-its-russian-franchisee-even-as-it-publicly-distances-itself-leaked-records-show/ [02:50] TR Bot Burger King holds a quiet stake in its Russian franchisee even as it publicly distances itself,leaked records show - ICIJ [02:50] prost amazon admin: start the application process and make the wannabees come up to solutions to problem [02:50] matey i thought there was already a burger czar [02:51] prost amazon: stop the application process after problem is solved and dont employ anyone [02:51] TR News "Today I saw a back link to my Gemini capsule from Gophersphere. It somehow natural, but we don't have a proper instrumentation to detect that. ;-)" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi [02:51] AdmFubar you're thinking booger czar (tzar? tsar?) [02:52] matey in australia burger king is called hungry jacks [02:52] activelow cannot find why gcc/linker adds stuff which it should not/need not to do: __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr0 [02:52] AdmFubar in the usa those are a brand of pancakes [02:52] *activelow puts on tinfoil hat [02:52] TR News Types are useful gemini://idiomdrottning.org/types-are-useful [02:52] TR News GNOME 41.5 Released as a Bugfix Update for the GNOME 41 Desktop Series Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162813 [02:52] TR Bot GNOME 41.5 Released as a Bugfix Update for the GNOME 41 Desktop Series | Tux Machines [02:52] matey keep tinfoil away from gcc, it will link that too [02:53] matey in fact its best to isolate gcc from any electronic devices using a faraday cage [02:53] AdmFubar and members of the "church of the subgenius" [02:54] activelow the function/symbol isn't used, nonetheless libgcc is linked against for this one, unpredictibly [02:54] matey thats the gpl, its trying to spread the copyleft virus [02:55] activelow situation is, with a cross-compiler it's not linked against, then the same compiler with identical switches links it; absolutely no clue why [02:56] prost GNOME 42 released to revert the bugs fixed in version 41.5 [02:56] *activelow activates paranoid mode [02:56] AdmFubar instead of asking here ask the maintainers of the compiler why is does that [02:56] activelow already did [02:56] AdmFubar help help the paranoids are after me! [02:57] matey GNOME 42 released to revert the bugs fixed in version 41.5 <- if they really intended to fix it they would use mate [02:58] matey /me goes to the gnome forums to ask "why not use mate? its free and open and has fewer bugs" [02:58] prost GNOME fev are MS dev working on gnome on their free time [02:58] matey everyone needs a hobby [02:58] matey for them its destroying free software [02:58] matey other people collect stamps ● Mar 22 [03:02] AdmFubar :P https://www.osnews.com/story/134704/windows-needs-a-change-in-priorities/ [03:02] prost they also destroy proprietary software soo... [03:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134704/windows-needs-a-change-in-priorities/ [03:02] TR Bot needs a change in priorities OSnews [03:03] matey yes but unlike the free software they destroy, the prioprietary shit keeps coming back [03:03] activelow ^ grab the tiny-basic paper tape and restart from scratch [03:03] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 24.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.94 [03:05] matey thats what will happen [03:06] matey https://www.osnews.com/story/134704/windows-needs-a-change-in-priorities/ <- i know what windows should focus on [03:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134704/windows-needs-a-change-in-priorities/ [03:10] TR News Keeping Debian Healthy as It Enters Its 30th Anniversary | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/debian-errors/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/21/debian-errors/ [03:10] TR Bot Keeping Debian Healthy as It Enters Its 30th Anniversary | Techrights [03:10] *danielinux_ (sbnc@danielinux.default.trexotech.uk0.bigv.io) has joined #techrights [03:11] *danielinux has quit (*.net *.split) [03:12] TR News Like this is what should matter in an OS these days. "Dark mode", icons, emojis... https://www.maketecheasier.com/set-custom-icons-android-apps/ [03:12] TR Bot How to Set Custom Icons for Your Android Apps - Make Tech Easier [03:13] TR News 270: System76 Interview with Emma Marshall - Destination Linux https://destinationlinux.org/episode-270/ [03:13] TR Bot 270: System76 Interview with Emma Marshall - Destination Linux [03:13] TR News "We discuss whether computing become less interesting as performance and abstraction have increased over the years. Plus our discoveries including two way radios, synths, HTML from colourful terminal output, and a personal wiki for Vim." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-169/ [03:13] TR Bot Late Night Linux Episode 169 Late Night Linux [03:15] TR News Gunnar Wolf: Long, long, long live Emacs after 39 years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162800#comment-33145 [03:15] TR Bot 20+ years of Emacs | Tux Machines [03:17] TR News 60 Parsecs! gets a small update to improve Steam Deck support https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/60-parsecs-gets-a-small-update-to-improve-steam-deck-support [03:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/60-parsecs-gets-a-small-update-to-improve-steam-deck-support [03:17] TR Bot Parsecs! gets a small update to improve Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux [03:18] TR News "I use flameshot for my screenshots which has built in annotation tools but if you want a stand alone solution that's much simpler than GIMP, look no further than annotator" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iX-NKceEuqM [03:18] TR Bot Flameshot Not For You? Try Out Annotator Instead! - Invidious [03:18] TR News GDC 2022: Cloud gaming powered by Anbox Cloud | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/gdc-2022-cloud-gaming-powered-by-anbox-cloud [03:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/gdc-2022-cloud-gaming-powered-by-anbox-cloud [03:18] TR Bot 2022: Cloud gaming powered by Anbox Cloud | Ubuntu [03:19] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:19] AdmFubar geniuses! https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/have-iphone-cameras-become-too-smart [03:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: newyorker.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/have-iphone-cameras-become-too-smart [03:19] TR Bot Have iPhone Cameras Become Too Smart? | The New Yorker [03:19] schestowitz-TR 'Smart' [03:19] schestowitz-TR like INTEL agencies [03:20] TR News "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 727 for the week of March 13 19, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/03/21/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-727/ [03:20] TR Bot Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 727 [03:21] TR News Clown. Outsourcing. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/general_dynamics_cloud/ [03:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/general_dynamics_cloud/ [03:21] TR Bot General Dynamics awarded $4.5bn NGA hybrid cloud contract The Register [03:22] TR News "Russia labels Meta an extremist organization, outlawing Facebook and Instagram. WhatsApp is exempt from the ruling, because it doesnt have a public information sharing function." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [03:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [03:22] TR Bot Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now [03:22] TR News Games: GoG, Office Management 101, Steam, and GDC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162814 [03:22] TR Bot Games: GoG, Office Management 101, Steam, and GDC | Tux Machines [03:23] TR News Josh Simmons is out. From OSI. That's good. https://opensource.org/blog/2022-osi-board-election-results see http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ [03:23] TR Bot 2022 OSI Board Election Results | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source... [03:23] TR Bot The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights [03:24] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 338856 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39826 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 12 days ago [03:25] AdmFubar pocket change for geniuses https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/03/20/046254/former-employee-accused-of-defrauding-apple-out-of-10-million?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [03:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/03/20/046254/former-employee-accused-of-defrauding-apple-out-of-10-million?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [03:25] TR Bot Former Employee Accused of Defrauding Apple Out of $10 Million - Slashdot [03:25] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. 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[03:29] TR News MassOS GNU/Linux 2022.02.2 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XKBLxzFan4o [03:29] TR Bot MassOS GNU/Linux 2022.02.2 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious [03:32] AdmFubar https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60793847 [03:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60793847 [03:32] TR Bot launches virtual beer in self-mocking metaverse 'joke' - BBC News [03:33] TR News Those messages should say, "MOVE TO GNU/LINUX" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/win_11_hardware_requirements_nagware/ [03:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/win_11_hardware_requirements_nagware/ [03:33] TR Bot Win 11 adds hardware 'requirements not met' nag for Insiders The Register [03:33] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162815 [03:33] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [03:34] TR News Debian is turning 30 (in September next year) and it needs to change direction in order to attract volunteers like it did back in the 1990s http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/debian-errors/ [03:34] TR Bot Keeping Debian Healthy as It Enters Its 30th Anniversary | Techrights [03:37] IPFS QmYDUiQWeiJU7WCsdP3xeCnELkr2V2Y9aQVLP4Z8n6efVs [03:37] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:38] TR News "It was a while since I last spoke Swedish on a podcast. I joined the friendly hosts of the Trevlig Mjukvara (translates to something like Nice Software) podcast and we talked software development, open source, curl, Mozilla and a few other topics for an hour. 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[05:11] TR News Samba 4.16.0 Available for Download Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162824 [05:11] TR Bot Samba 4.16.0 Available for Download | Tux Machines [05:12] TR News Ignore all this money I get from companies I write about, says the 'analyst'. "AWS, Hasura, Heroku (Salesforce) and MongoDB are RedMonk customers. 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Read more [05:16] TR Bot More than A Phone: How Purism Advocates Digital Security Purism [05:17] TR News "PureOS: A Debian-based 100% free software truly convergent operating system developed and maintained by Purism. It is an Operating System that is not based on Android or iOS. Purisms PureOS was also where all the development occurred for what we later pushed into GNOME" https://puri.sm/posts/purism-digital-security/ [05:17] TR News Workers of the EPO will stay out; they have more important things to do as priorities have shifted. Dont be a scab. Join the colleagues actions. http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-day-of-strike/ [05:24] DaemonFC WGN running McDonalds ads. [05:24] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I like how you said clown [05:24] schestowitz-TR and disservices [05:24] DaemonFC They're doing that Szechuan sauce thing again, and this time you have to use some stupid app to order it. [05:24] schestowitz-TR we need to spread such vocabularies [05:24] schestowitz-TR they can help wean people off the disservices [05:24] schestowitz-TR they don't want to be clowns [05:26] DaemonFC In the last 15 years, they haven't managed to add one year's worth of decent music to the major label catalogs, so paying for Spotify is basically paying for a lot of garbage. [05:26] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162825 [05:26] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [05:27] TR News Josh Simmons, Megan Byrd-Sanicki and Italo Vignoli Out of OSI Board, ASF Board Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162826 [05:27] TR Bot Josh Simmons, Megan Byrd-Sanicki and Italo Vignoli Out of OSI Board, ASF Board Update | Tux Machines [05:27] TR News Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162827 [05:27] TR Bot Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines [05:27] DaemonFC Adam Ruins Everything did one about Spotify, schestowitz-TR [05:27] DaemonFC And Apple Music, etc.... by way of saying "streaming revenues". [05:28] DaemonFC He said that the cuts that the labels took for themselves and their lawyers and the company that does the streaming meant that you can't make enough money to get by just by doing music anymore. [05:28] schestowitz-TR it's awful [05:28] DaemonFC Even if it performs well in streaming. [05:28] schestowitz-TR I have a lot of music collections [05:28] schestowitz-TR and I can carry them on for 20+ years [05:28] DaemonFC They have to do promotions and commercials and all of this shit because that's where the money is. [05:29] TR News Links 22/3/2022: Samba 4.16.0 and EPO Strike Day | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/samba-4-16-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/samba-4-16-0/ [05:29] TR Bot Links 22/3/2022: Samba 4.16.0 and EPO Strike Day | Techrights [05:29] schestowitz-TR most real musicians never make enough money to cover the basics [05:29] TR News IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162828 [05:29] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [05:31] TR News Techrights is weaning itself off a dying SSD (my main laptop). Might slow down publication as we evacuate data to safer storage devices. Thanks for the understanding.... [05:32] schestowitz MinceR: gm gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D179.jpg [05:33] TR News "I'm still mulling over how I can balance my desire to contribute positively to this digital community with my entrenched reticence to share anything whatsoever about what I do, say, or think with anyone anywhere, at any time." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/854 [05:34] DaemonFC I got that chest freezer I ordered today. Should store plenty. [05:42] DaemonFC schestowitz, Apparently, someone in Aurora, CO pulled up at a gas station and filled up 3,000 gallons worth of diesel fuel into tanks they brought with them and then did something to the pump to where it just dispensed it without charging them. [05:42] DaemonFC They made off with over $50,000 worth of diesel. [05:42] schestowitz-TR wow [05:44] DaemonFC Mandy was pretty pissed that I got a big chest freezer. [05:44] DaemonFC I told him I was tired of seeing an entire shelf of markdown chicken or steak and only being able to grab a few and then leaning on the freezer door and strapping it shut. [05:45] schestowitz-TR we thought the same [05:45] schestowitz-TR but.. [05:45] schestowitz-TR decided not to do it [05:45] DaemonFC As long as you package it properly, most meat freezes pretty well for a couple of years. [05:45] schestowitz-TR 1) you are not guaranteed high occupancy [05:45] schestowitz-TR 2) you pay for electricity [05:45] schestowitz-TR 3) price of energy can go up sharply [05:45] schestowitz-TR 4) it takes up space and can require repairs [05:46] schestowitz-TR from what I can gather the discounts you get aren't much [05:46] schestowitz-TR not like here where we can find 90% off or more [05:46] DaemonFC Usually they run for years and years without trouble. [05:46] DaemonFC My old one, I only lost it because I had to leave it at John's house. [05:47] schestowitz-TR your sources of discounted food may also run out [05:47] schestowitz-TR years down the line [05:47] schestowitz-TR if you have an old fridge/freezer, you can add them [05:47] schestowitz-TR but buying a spare just for storage will cost you in power bills [05:50] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [05:53] DaemonFC About $3 a month or so. [05:54] DaemonFC Which these days is less than one trip to Jewel for meat in gasoline. [05:54] DaemonFC *shrug* [05:54] schestowitz-TR +price of freezer [05:54] schestowitz-TR plus repairs [05:54] schestowitz-TR plus occasional cleaning [05:54] schestowitz-TR so you start at about $200 base [05:54] schestowitz-TR then operation costs [05:55] DaemonFC My last one ran fine for 6 years before shithead got it. [05:55] schestowitz-TR and your discounts need to catch up and justify the expenditure [05:55] DaemonFC No telling how long it would have lasted. [05:55] DaemonFC Many refrigerators from the 1980s still run. [05:55] DaemonFC They're not efficient, but they do run. [05:55] schestowitz-TR they are efficient in other way [05:56] schestowitz-TR like not having to be replaced every 5-10 years [05:56] schestowitz-TR it takes a ton of energy to produce one [05:56] DaemonFC Like an old car. [05:56] schestowitz-TR our stupid kettle barely lasted a year (just a bit longer) [05:56] DaemonFC People look at the gas mileage, but not the fact that the bank wants a lot of money for a new one. [05:56] schestowitz-TR and it was a decent brand [05:56] DaemonFC Fully a third of the cost of a car can be the bank interest! [05:57] DaemonFC and it was a decent brand [05:57] DaemonFC I got a $10 glass kettle from Amazon. [05:57] DaemonFC It works fine almost two years later. [05:57] schestowitz-TR that's nothing [05:57] DaemonFC One of those Chinese brands. [05:57] schestowitz-TR tell me when you reach 7 or 10 [05:57] schestowitz-TR our last one lasted 7 [05:58] schestowitz-TR not purchased onlinea [05:58] DaemonFC I stocked up on instant coffee this week. iBotta. [05:58] schestowitz-TR an actual store, not expensive but betteer material [05:58] schestowitz-TR electronics have become really bad [05:58] DaemonFC That's another thing. I stocked my old chest freezer with frozen food I got iBotta rebates on. [05:58] schestowitz-TR in my experience, taiwan invests more in the components [05:58] DaemonFC Still had room for markdowns! [05:59] DaemonFC Mom and Gonad always had a chest freezer. [05:59] DaemonFC They ended up with two refrigerators and a chest freezer going. [05:59] DaemonFC The second fridge was JUST to keep Gonad's beer cold. [05:59] DaemonFC And it was a fridge meant for a family. [05:59] DaemonFC :) [05:59] schestowitz-TR for his frosting+milk binges [05:59] DaemonFC Oh no, that was Dave. [05:59] schestowitz-TR ah, ok [05:59] DaemonFC Third idiot. ● Mar 22 [06:00] DaemonFC He would straight up eat an entire container of cake frosting. [06:00] DaemonFC Then wash it down with a GALLON of milk. [06:00] schestowitz-TR at least he was happy [06:00] schestowitz-TR for that while [06:00] DaemonFC Then he'd sit there stretching out new underwear with his foot going "Why won't these fit? I know I'm a 2XL!". [06:01] schestowitz-TR maybe better than heroin addiction [06:01] DaemonFC Reminds me of Al Bundy going "Look, lady, you're a 9. I can accept it, why can't you?". [06:01] DaemonFC Anyway, off to bed. :) [06:01] schestowitz-TR 0/ [06:01] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:12] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 39.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 8.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.97 [06:24] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:26] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:28] *danielinux_ is now known as danielinux [06:29] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@sy7ss5msyeqgk.irc) has joined #techrights [06:30] *danielinux has quit (Changing host) [06:30] *danielinux (sbnc@wolfssl/developer/danielinux) has joined #techrights [06:39] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [06:41] TR News "Unlike applications or e-books, the experience of using the Web is not confined to content provided by one vendor." https://educatedguesswork.org/posts/web-security-model-origin/ [06:41] TR Bot Understanding The Web Security Model, Part III: Basic Principles and the Origin Concept [06:41] TR News "I know I keep making this point, but it really can't be overemphasizedas long as the data sent to the client is valid HTML, the browser doesn't care how it was generated." https://educatedguesswork.org/posts/web-security-model-intro2/ [06:41] TR Bot Understanding The Web Security Model, Part II: Web Applications [06:42] TR News "The advice to use strong types or to put units in names is not limited to variables and function arguments" https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/2022/03/20/please-put-units-in-names [06:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: ruudvanasseldonk.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/2022/03/20/please-put-units-in-names [06:42] TR Bot Please put units in names [06:43] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/599072-white-house-warns-russia-prepping-possible-cyberattacks-on-us [06:43] TR Bot House warns Russia prepping possible cyberattacks against US | TheHill [06:44] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/599118-biden-asks-top-ceos-to-invest-in-combating-potential-cyberattacks [06:44] TR Bot tells CEOs they have 'patriotic obligation' to guard against Russian cyberattacks | TheHill [06:44] TR News "The outage impacted some apps and people differently. In some cases, an app like the App Store would load but would hang or wouldnt let you download an app." https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/apple-services-are-users-rcna20911 [06:44] TR Bot Apple services are down for some users [06:44] TR News "Microsoft has not made any categorical denial of the claim that its Azure DevOps servers were breached and data stolen." https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/first-samsung-breach,-now-microsoft-lapsus$-makes-bold-claim.html" [06:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/first-samsung-breach,-now-microsoft-lapsus$-makes-bold-claim.html" [06:44] TR Bot - First Samsung breach, now Microsoft: Lapsus$ makes bold claim [06:45] TR News "The South American-based data extortion hacking group Lapsus$ has allegedly gained access to Microsoft's Azure DevOps source code repositories and stolen data from the company." https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-may-be-the-latest-victim-of-lapsusdollar [06:45] TR Bot may be the latest victim of Lapsus$ | TechRadar [06:50] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights ● Mar 22 [07:04] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.98 [07:09] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:21] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@6tng9f7cab9ge.irc) has joined #techrights [07:21] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:57] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@d4f6rigi2emqn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Mar 22 [08:04] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.73 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.97 [08:18] kingoffrance re: "cannot find why gcc/linker adds stuff which it should not/need not to do: __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr0" my guess is even c code...might call other c code...that calls c++ ....so knowledge of c++ exceptions (im assuming that is what it is used for, from the name) is needed at multiple levels for things to work, because languages call eachother. [08:18] kingoffrance and vice versa as well [08:22] *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:51] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:58] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights ● Mar 22 [09:01] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 29.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.95 [09:27] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:31] TR News "And while sales figures are hard to come by, one report said that global purchases of dumbphones were due to hit one billion units last year, up from 400 million in 2019." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60763168 [09:31] TR Bot Not smart but clever? The return of 'dumbphones' - BBC News [09:34] TR News KeePassXC 2.7 Password Manager Released with Major Changes, Heres Whats New Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162829 [09:34] TR Bot KeePassXC 2.7 Password Manager Released with Major Changes, Heres Whats New | Tux Machines [09:34] TR News Ubuntu Users Receive a New Major Linux Kernel Update, 22 Security Flaws Patched Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162830 [09:34] TR Bot Ubuntu Users Receive a New Major Linux Kernel Update, 22 Security Flaws Patched | Tux Machines [09:36] TR News The real risks of investing in cryptocurrencies [sic] https://www.parisbeacon.com/64005/ [09:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: parisbeacon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.parisbeacon.com/64005/ [09:36] TR Bot The real risks of investing in cryptocurrencies - Paris Beacon News [09:36] TR News "Bitcoin mining is currently estimated to account for about 0.5% of global electricity consumption" https://arcticportal.org/ap-library/news-list/2783-bitcoin-is-a-pollution-creating-mess [09:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: arcticportal.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://arcticportal.org/ap-library/news-list/2783-bitcoin-is-a-pollution-creating-mess [09:36] TR Bot Bitcoin is a pollution-creating mess - Arctic Portal [09:37] TR News "The power consumption of cryptocurrencies is a contentious subject." https://singularityhub.com/2022/03/07/bitcoins-carbon-emissions-are-rising-after-chinas-crypto-ban/ [09:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: singularityhub.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://singularityhub.com/2022/03/07/bitcoins-carbon-emissions-are-rising-after-chinas-crypto-ban/ [09:37] TR Bot Bitcoin's Carbon Emissions Are Rising After China's Crypto Ban [09:38] TR News "A team of researchers from the Netherlands, Switzerland and Germany has found that as Bitcoin miners have moved from China to the U.S. and other countries" https://phys.org/news/2022-02-bitcoin-carbon-emissions-countries.html [09:38] TR Bot Bitcoin carbon emissions rise as mining moves to US and other countries [09:44] *matey (~matey@qiahibkh2iwka.irc) has joined #techrights [09:45] SomeH4x0r hi [09:45] matey hi [09:46] XRevan86 hi [09:47] matey this is a very friendly channel [09:47] matey sometimes [09:48] matey thats more often than a lot of irc channels though [09:48] matey i mean this could be libera [09:48] matey /me shudders [09:49] matey i would consider libera like alice trying to chat with the queen of hearts [09:49] matey except that everybody is the queen of hearts [09:49] TR News IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 21, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/irc-log-210322/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/irc-log-210322/ [09:49] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 21, 2022 | Techrights [09:49] matey so then i was at libreplanet and richard stallman [09:49] matey OFF WITH HER HEAD! [09:49] schestowitz-TR matey: that's a good metaphor [09:50] matey but all i said was [09:50] matey OFF WITH HER HEAD! [09:50] matey matey: that's a good metaphor <- sadly, it is [09:50] schestowitz-TR with those other networks, freenode included, you need to appease about a dozen people [09:50] matey and not just to toot my own horn, thats where we are now [09:50] schestowitz-TR if they are volunteers, they owe you nothing [09:50] schestowitz-TR if they are staff (their term), it's run like a company [09:50] schestowitz-TR either way, it is a limiting factor [09:51] schestowitz-TR [09:47] this is a very friendly channel [09:51] schestowitz-TR preceded by a Ukranian, saying hi, replied to by Russian, then America [09:51] matey i wasnt joking, but there is a tongue-in-cheek aspect to it [09:51] matey yes, thats a fair assessment [09:51] schestowitz-TR which I think is how corporations should, but do NOT, define diversity [09:51] matey my first thought after saying that [09:52] schestowitz-TR they just mix colours and stuff [09:52] schestowitz-TR for the brochures [09:52] matey well, theres definitely two sides to it [09:52] matey but it doesnt negate what i said [09:52] schestowitz-TR "look! we work for ICE!!! But we employ some latinos... as janitors" [09:52] matey basically that [09:52] schestowitz-TR [18:47] Who thought Gulag would profit from a gulag? https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/google-settles-over-firing-workers-protesting-immigration-cloud-deal-2022-03-21/ Microsoft also: http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ [09:52] TR Bot settles over firing of workers protesting immigration cloud deal | Reuters [09:52] TR Bot Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights [09:53] schestowitz-TR "SOOOO WOKE" [09:53] matey ibm is run by a woman, but also helps people kill (sorry, detain) people for being brown [09:53] matey but wait, they dont do that anymore [09:53] matey now they (other horrible thing) [09:53] matey plus, female at the helm! [09:53] schestowitz-TR ICBM [09:53] schestowitz-TR maybe they are happy [09:53] schestowitz-TR they stay in Russia [09:53] schestowitz-TR like Tom Watson [09:53] matey did he go to russia? i only knew about his trips to germany [09:53] schestowitz-TR and they get to sell more nuclear systems in the USA [09:54] schestowitz-TR because with growing tensions it means more sales [09:54] schestowitz-TR matey: his son flew support missions to Moscow [09:54] matey /me buys flags and waves them [09:54] schestowitz-TR to give Stalin supplies [09:54] matey ah yes stalin, the great leftist [09:54] schestowitz-TR the son later became IBM's chief [09:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/08/russia-history-ibm/ [09:54] TR Bot IBM and Red Hat Boycott Russia and Belarus, But IBMs History Tells a Different Story | Techrights [09:54] schestowitz they even took group photos [09:55] matey they always take group photos [09:55] matey watson and hitler, gates and epstein [09:55] schestowitz-TR foolish [09:55] matey its pride [09:55] schestowitz-TR they don't know if someone in the group winds up being a mass murderer, pedo etc. [09:55] schestowitz-TR it's status by association [09:55] schestowitz-TR like me taking photos with rms (I never did) [09:55] matey they don't know if someone <- daemonfc will confirm this: its not that they dont know, its really that they dont care [09:56] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6ebqzz9fgde9y.irc) has joined #techrights [09:56] matey i would have taken a photo with rms [09:56] schestowitz-TR matey: you summoned him [09:56] matey but it would have to be someone elses camera [09:56] schestowitz-TR taking photos is easy [09:56] matey you summoned him <- i was thinking loud enough that it wouldnt have mattered if i said the name or not [09:56] schestowitz-TR the other stuff is harder [09:57] matey they always take group photos [09:57] matey watson and hitler, gates and epstein [09:57] matey they don't know if someone in the group winds up being a mass murderer, pedo etc. [09:57] matey they don't know if someone <- daemonfc will confirm this: its not that they dont know, its really that they dont care [09:57] matey ^ daemonfc [09:58] schestowitz-TR I am trying to think if I took bad group photos [09:58] schestowitz-TR incrimination "by association" [09:58] matey theres that one with you and jeffrey dahmer [09:58] matey /me made it up [09:58] matey and bob sagat, after he... no, thats a gilbert gottfried routine [09:58] schestowitz-TR when justin timberlake was in the gym about 20 years ago I asked [09:58] schestowitz-TR but his bodyguard said no [09:59] matey there you go [09:59] schestowitz-TR my sister wanted me to get a photos [09:59] schestowitz-TR because she was a fan [09:59] matey naturally ● Mar 22 [10:00] TR News Can't argue with Vlad on this one... https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1885004.html [10:00] TR Bot RTL Today - Social media crackdown: Russia bans Instagram and Facebook as 'extremist' [10:01] TR News Social control media = cesspool, very seldom information https://thehill.com/policy/international/599079-facebook-failed-to-detect-hate-speech-against-rohingya-report-finds [10:01] TR Bot failed to detect hate speech against Rohingya, report finds | TheHill [10:01] TR News Social control media is an accelerator of conflict. [10:02] TR News "Multiple social media posts purport to show a photo of a Ukrainian farmer stealing a Russian rocket." https://today.rtl.lu/news/fact-check/a/1885225.html Social control media = Misinformation/Disinformation [10:02] TR Bot RTL Today - Fact Check: This is an old NASA photo doctored to add a tractor [10:03] TR News "The video was released on YouTube just hours after Downing Street accused Vladimir Putins Russia of hoaxing the Defence Secretary and Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, through impostors" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/21/russia-releases-video-ben-wallace-supporting-ukraines-nuclear/ [10:03] TR Bot Watch: Russia releases hoax video of Ben Wallace discussing Ukraines nuclear ambitions [10:03] TR News Now the Islamic Republic of United Kingdom must release Julian Assange (to show it's better than Iran) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/19/exclusive-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-spends-first-days-reunited/ [10:03] TR Bot Exclusive: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe spends first days reunited with family at Chancellors Georgian mansion [10:04] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 29.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.95 [10:04] IPFS 279.95 [10:04] TR News GNU Linux-Libre 5.17 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162831 [10:04] TR Bot GNU Linux-Libre 5.17 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs | Tux Machines [10:04] matey someone was telling me they had heard of teletypes [10:05] matey but didnt realise that you could still connect them to modern equipment [10:05] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/03/22/1087983743/putin-coat-zelenskyy-shirts-fashion-statement-russia-ukraine-war [10:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/03/22/1087983743/putin-coat-zelenskyy-shirts-fashion-statement-russia-ukraine-war [10:05] TR Bot The political statements of Putin's blue coat and Zelenskyy's T-shirts. : NPR [10:05] matey i said of course-- all computing is rube goldberg machines [10:05] matey even a bash pipeline is a rube goldberg machine [10:05] DaemonFC Makes "$119,000" a year, spends $14,000 on coat. [10:05] DaemonFC What is this? A CNBC budget? [10:05] matey sounds like marisol [10:05] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: NPR: "supported by listeners" [10:05] schestowitz-TR covera war [10:06] schestowitz-TR focuses on garments [10:06] matey the listener supported bill and melinda station [10:06] schestowitz-TR some 'journalism' you got there [10:06] DaemonFC MALINDA [10:06] schestowitz-TR maybe they shou;d probe Bill and Lolita Foundation on accountability [10:06] DaemonFC "I just couldn't trust what we had." [10:07] schestowitz-TR Bill does not want a 61 year oild [10:07] schestowitz-TR he wanted 16 [10:07] matey i know the divorce is going to beugly, but i still wonder who will get the oscar [10:07] schestowitz-TR "he baby... me gots losta monies" [10:07] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/03/22/1087988691/washington-dc-attorney-general-grubhub-food-delivery-lawsuit [10:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/03/22/1087988691/washington-dc-attorney-general-grubhub-food-delivery-lawsuit [10:07] TR Bot D.C. sues Grubhub for allegedly using deceptive trade practices : NPR [10:08] matey /me invented "beugly" today, which is anything that has a bugle-like quality [10:08] TR News "Ferrell hoped her experience organizing a campaign against book challenges might be instructive to others who similarly oppose what she views as a politically-driven campaign" https://text.npr.org/1087000890 [10:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1087000890 [10:08] TR Bot Book bans and the threat of censorship rev up political activism in the suburbs [10:08] DaemonFC Yes, I've heard about people cursing out restaurant workers and leaving bad reviews because GrubHub screwed them on their order, even though the restaurant did not consent to being on GrubHub. [10:08] DaemonFC The apps are unsustainable. [10:08] matey well you know, if someone will call the police about mcnuggets [10:09] DaemonFC This Walmart+ thing in particular is a joke. [10:09] matey "hello, 911? someone got my order wrong" [10:09] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D179.jpg [10:09] matey before there was karen [10:09] DaemonFC Nobody picks up orders that only pay $4-5 and require going across town. [10:09] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D537.jpg [10:09] matey /me has heard of walmart+, but usually they call it amazon [10:09] DaemonFC Some people did at first and then found out Walmart encourages you not to tip them and just says "free delivery from store". [10:09] DaemonFC IOW, Walmart basically expects the driver to work for free. [10:10] DaemonFC That's their problem! [10:10] matey why not? they expect it of their workers [10:10] TR News TWITTER: NO HUMOUR HERE!! Go urge people to KILL A RUSSIAN instead!! That's better for ENGAGEMENT. https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/babylon-bee-editor-we-refuse-to-bow-to-twitters-censorship-of-a-joke/ [10:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: nypost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/babylon-bee-editor-we-refuse-to-bow-to-twitters-censorship-of-a-joke/ [10:10] TR Bot Babylon Bee editor: We refuse to bow to Twitter's censorship of a joke [10:10] matey and their shoppers (at the checkout) [10:11] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:11] TR News Apple products: shits in white plastics. DRM: "Unlike all of Apples other M1-powered computers, the Mac Studios storage isnt soldered onto the mainboard" https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/21/22989226/apple-mac-studios-removable-ssd-blocked-software-replacement [10:11] TR Bot The Mac Studios removable SSD is reportedly blocked by Apple on a software level - The Verge [10:12] TR News "Ians Take: After Apples announcement that they were going to allow users to repair their iPhones with genuine Apple parts, I had hoped that Apple would allow upgradeability." https://appletrack.com/the-mac-studios-upgradability-has-been-locked-in-software/ [10:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: appletrack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appletrack.com/the-mac-studios-upgradability-has-been-locked-in-software/ [10:12] TR Bot video shows Mac Studio is upgradable (but Apple blocked it in software) - AppleTrack [10:12] TR News There's no such thing as "unsupported PC" so just move to GNU/Linux and help save the planet, too https://www.pcworld.com/article/624957/running-windows-11-on-an-unsupported-pc-get-ready-for-a-desktop-watermark.html [10:12] TR Bot Windows 11 on an unsupported PC? Get ready for a desktop watermark | PCWorld [10:15] matey me ranting about guis: (which im not entirely against, but there are drawbacks) [10:15] matey stability is stability, reliability is reliability. thats harder to fake [10:15] matey than a useful standard. and nearly impossible to get from a gui, too! why [10:15] matey are guis so unstable? because theyre visual, and subject to fashion. and [10:15] matey you know how fashion works-- out with everything, in with everything new! [10:15] matey "but i use to this to" "DOESNT MATTER! CHECK OUT OUR FALL LINE!" [10:16] DaemonFC https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/amid-high-gas-prices-chicago-man-goes-viral-for-putting-mortgage-payment-in-rv-tank [10:16] TR Bot Amid high gas prices, Chicago man goes viral for putting 'mortgage' payment in RV tank [10:16] DaemonFC An entire country risks living in a tent. [10:16] schestowitz-TR risks? [10:16] schestowitz-TR it's common already [10:16] DaemonFC Fox32 Chicago posts about high gas prices making people who own an RV angry. [10:16] schestowitz-TR but the rich will leave [10:16] schestowitz-TR with their offshore accounts [10:16] matey i said a bunch of things, but among them: you make a gui of something, you either promise to red o it whenever gtk "reinvents itself" or you have some debian person say "its unmaintained" meaning "they didnt redo all the gui code" [10:17] DaemonFC Hunter Biden's laptop of child porn and money laundering..... [10:17] matey youre adding a feature that adds instability to your project [10:17] DaemonFC The New York Post is talking about it again. [10:17] matey but sometimes guis are useful. its a cost/risk assessment [10:17] matey and if you can avoid them (or make them separate) thats a plus [10:17] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:18] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:18] matey o/ CParadoxum__ [10:18] DaemonFC "If youre looking for other ways to save money on gas, personal finance expert Dave Ramsey shared six smart tips recently with FOX Business:" [10:18] DaemonFC LOL [10:19] DaemonFC Use loyalty programs, carpool, eat the cats.... Advice from the rich on how to deal with Bidenflation. [10:19] DaemonFC The cats eat $17 in food every week. [10:19] DaemonFC Do you really need those? [10:19] DaemonFC -Dave Ramsey [10:20] DaemonFC It's not cheap to take care of a cat or a dog, properly. [10:21] matey there are free kittens, there are no free cats [10:21] DaemonFC If you feed them the big bag of food off the pallet that costs $9.99, it's not really what they need in order to live a long time and be healthy. [10:21] matey and the kittens arent free for a whole week [10:21] DaemonFC Lots of cheap fillers and garbage. The first ingredient is probably corn. [10:21] matey The first ingredient is probably corn. <- same as the shit they sell to people to eat [10:21] DaemonFC With the really cheap cat foods, you sometimes get to the third ingredient before there's any meat. [10:22] DaemonFC Yes, but corn doesn't harm people really. [10:22] matey taco bell could just pivot and put their stuff in cans. [10:22] DaemonFC Cats are carnivorous. They're supposed to eat meat exclusively. [10:22] matey Yes, but corn doesn't harm people really. <- someones never heard of novartis [10:22] DaemonFC The expensive dried cat food is usually about 60-70% meat, but the cheap stuff is usually only about 20-30%, and that's why it's so cheap. [10:23] *bnchs (~bnchs@mcv3f6e76erzy.irc) has joined #techrights [10:23] DaemonFC They're putting corn and stuff in there and then only by the third ingredient do you get to "meat byproduct meal" which is internal organs and stuff, which there's nothing wrong with as an ingredient, but..... [10:24] TR News Court Says Non-Open 'Open Source' Code is False Advertising - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/03/19/1546209 while OSI advertises proprietary Microsoft/GitHub as open!! What an OWN goal. [10:24] TR Bot Court Says Non-Open 'Open Source' Code is False Advertising - SoylentNews [10:24] DaemonFC It should read something like "Chicken, Chicken byproduct meal, dried egg powder" and only then should it get to some sort of rice or pea ingredient (not corn). [10:24] DaemonFC And this should be the minimum you consider feeding the cat. [10:24] bnchs matey: i'm trying to split up a client (that has both the server communications and GUI) into a daemon [10:24] TR News Humour not allowed in Twitter https://www.mediaite.com/online/were-not-deleting-anything-babylon-bee-defiant-after-twitter-locks-their-account-for-tweet-calling-rachel-levine-man-of-the-year/ [10:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: mediaite.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mediaite.com/online/were-not-deleting-anything-babylon-bee-defiant-after-twitter-locks-their-account-for-tweet-calling-rachel-levine-man-of-the-year/ [10:24] TR Bot Babylon Bee Defiant After Twitter Suspends Their Account [10:25] DaemonFC If you see corn as the top ingredient, it's not fit for a cat that will be primarily eating that. [10:25] bnchs this is in a package unmaintained since 2012 [10:25] DaemonFC Outdoor cats hunt and mostly eat birds and rodents and insects. [10:25] matey bnchs: impressive [10:25] matey what package? [10:25] DaemonFC So a few bites of cheap kibble won't hurt them much. [10:25] bnchs its a cyber cafe management software [10:25] matey nice [10:26] DaemonFC People get a bit weird about their cats. Like, "I would never feed mine anything with BYPRODUCT MEAL!". [10:26] DaemonFC If they kill and eat something outdoors, it's got organs and bones and all. [10:26] DaemonFC What's wrong with ground up organs and bones? It's a good source of protein and minerals. [10:26] bnchs i'm planning to use unix sockets for inter-process communication, but i dont know how that will work in windows [10:26] matey but probably no corn [10:26] TR News When Microsoft SHIPS MALWARE they blame "Open Source"; When PROPRIETARY Windows has issue guess what takes the blame... https://itwire.com/security/proofpoint-claims-attack-using-open-source-installer-to-target-windows.html [10:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/security/proofpoint-claims-attack-using-open-source-installer-to-target-windows.html [10:26] TR Bot - Proofpoint claims attack using open-source installer to target Windows [10:27] DaemonFC "All living things must eat!" -The Wraith Queen [10:27] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [10:27] matey but i dont know how that will work in windows <- probably not at all, unless windows has unix sockets :) [10:27] matey /me knew what they meant [10:28] DaemonFC "Looks like the food didn't agree with him!" -Col. Sumner "There we are quite different. We do not require OUR FOOD to agree with us." -The Queen [10:28] bnchs matey: microsoft didnt even implement unix sockets in windows until 2017 [10:28] matey windows has ipc [10:28] matey apple has imac [10:29] matey microsoft didnt even implement unix sockets in windows until 2017 <- better late than never [10:29] DaemonFC You _could_ use Unix Sockets on Services for UNIX-based Applications. But that was an overlay system. [10:29] bnchs https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/af_unix-comes-to-windows/ [10:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: microsoft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/af_unix-comes-to-windows/ [10:29] TR Bot AF_UNIX comes to Windows - Windows Command Line [10:29] bnchs windows has unix sockets in 2017 [10:30] bnchs windows before 2017: no way to communicate between processes [10:30] DaemonFC Microsoft isn't thrilled about Wine or Proton. [10:30] DaemonFC Bungie is supposedly independent now, but obviously not really. [10:30] DaemonFC If they were, they wouldn't care if you used Proton or Wine as long as you bought a license to their game. [10:30] matey secure socket layer for unix sockets for windows subsystem for linux [10:30] TR News This was shipped by Microsoft; stop blaming "open source" when Microsoft sends malware around https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/21/22989339/protestware-attacks-russia-sberbank-open-source [10:30] TR Bot After protestware attacks, a Russian bank has advised clients to stop updating software - The Verge [10:30] DaemonFC Instead, they plan to ban your account if they find out you use it. [10:31] bnchs "protestware" [10:31] TR News More censorship https://www.kadn.com/news/community-members-fighting-back-against-censorship/article_a6b72b56-a983-11ec-b55a-87e4bf6b42ce.html [10:31] TR Bot Members Fighting Back Against Censorship | News | kadn.com [10:31] bnchs thanks to brandon miller [10:31] bnchs i wish brandon miller would stop cheating on his wife [10:31] DaemonFC An independent company who sees Proton users would say "Oh cool, our sales will go up 4-5% and Valve is doing all of the work.". [10:32] TR News Gulag has already hung up on mariupol https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-rejects-russian-ultimatum-to-surrender-mariupol-/6494010.html see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/ [10:32] TR Bot Pentagon: 'Clear Evidence' of Russian War Crimes in Ukraine [10:32] bnchs the best way to write a software [10:32] TR Bot When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights [10:32] DaemonFC For Microsoft, it's a way to try to shore up Windows. They have their moles still in control of this company and are trying to use Bungie to prop up failing Windows marketshare. [10:32] bnchs is to write it first for unix-like OSes [10:32] bnchs and then port to windows with #ifdef _WIN32 [10:33] matey /me is looking forward to april [10:33] matey for no reason [10:34] matey rms is going to prove me right. or prove me wrong. its win-win. i hope he proves me wrong (he wont, but it would be nice) [10:34] TR News "Well also discuss how computer education can help create the next generation of makers and builders that we need to solve some of societys biggest problems." EFF still pretending to support hacker culture? It is ATTACKING it. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/podcast-episode-hack-future [10:34] TR Bot Podcast Episode: Hack to the Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:36] bnchs computer education [10:36] matey would be a good idea [10:36] bnchs as long as its not locking in people into proprietary OSes [10:36] matey ^ even better [10:36] TR News Hacking Justice: Julian Assange https://dontextraditeassange.com/events/hacking-justice-julian-assange-film-screening-and-qa/ [10:36] TR Bot Hacking Justice: Julian Assange - Film Screening and Q&A - Don't Extradite Assange [10:39] bnchs also not locking in people into proprietary tools [10:40] DaemonFC I don't know how hard it is to not cheat on your spouse. [10:40] DaemonFC Librarian: "Make a promise, keep a promise!" Al Bundy: "Yeah yeah yeah. Make a pie, eat a pie!" [10:41] matey systemd didnt qualify because its not a physical device https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VpLDfkLBJ0Q [10:41] TR Bot Largest Rube Goldberg Machine - Guinness World Records - Invidious [10:41] bnchs DaemonFC: do you agree there's an industry profitting off of divorces [10:42] DaemonFC Yeah, they're called lawyers. [10:42] DaemonFC The divorce lawyers haven't had business as good as they used to though. [10:42] DaemonFC Less marriages to begin with, and less pressure on very young adults to get married off quickly to people they hardly know. [10:43] matey and thats just the boot process [10:43] bnchs what they profit off of [10:43] bnchs is incompatible marriages [10:43] DaemonFC Plus, there's divorce robots now. [10:43] DaemonFC Instead of lawyers. [10:43] DaemonFC If you and your spouse just want rid of each other and agree on how to split everything up, a robot can write up the court petition. [10:44] DaemonFC Most sites charge about 2% of what you'd both pay for a divorce attorney. [10:44] bnchs i mean pressuring people to get married [10:44] bnchs and shilling marriage [10:44] DaemonFC So if you don't have substantial assets and can come to an agreement, it's better to just use a program. [10:44] TR News Maybe EFF should also tell people to ban/boycott DuckDuckGo (Microsoft proxy, spying) instead of shilling it https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/ban-online-behavioral-advertising [10:44] TR Bot Ban Online Behavioral Advertising | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:44] SomeH4x0r ban online advertising in general [10:45] DaemonFC Yeah, most people just aren't compatible with each other. [10:45] DaemonFC And calling cohabitating for a while "living in sin" is just a ridiculous way to perpetuate a vicious cycle. [10:45] bnchs yes and they thrive off that [10:45] bnchs divorce, alimony [10:46] DaemonFC It's almost impossible for people to keep up appearances for a year. If you live together for a year and call it a dry run before you get married, the ones that shouldn't be married will mostly figure that out before they make a big mistake. [10:46] DaemonFC So discouraging cohabitation is a way to ensure there will be more bad marriages heading for divorce court. [10:47] DaemonFC I'm not saying it should go on forever, but you have people like my mom where there was never any rush to get married like I was in, where the feds were looking for any excuse to get immigrants out of this country while Trump was in office. [10:47] DaemonFC She was always married to another US citizen, so you didn't have USCIS making it a shotgun wedding. [10:48] DaemonFC Then when she had nobody to blame but herself, she always found some reason why it's never her fault she's in the predicament she's in. [10:49] DaemonFC If she had back the $60,000 she lost remodeling houses she lost to divorce and making the bills while Gonad drank her out of house and home and spent all of his money on that..... [10:49] DaemonFC Or Dave. [10:49] DaemonFC I mean, she let them pretty much live off her and spend their money doing whatever it is they wanted to do on payday. [10:50] DaemonFC There's a lot of women who enable this for some reason. [10:50] DaemonFC They don't think they can do better, or they think they don't deserve better, so they don't even try. [10:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:51] matey he never did confirm [10:52] matey Tue 09:55:54 matey they don't know if someone <- daemonfc will confirm this: its not that they dont know, its really that they dont care [10:53] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [10:53] TR News Raytheon: close friend of ICBM Red Hat https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/21/peace-activists-occupy-roof-raytheon-building-protest-war-profiteering see http://techrights.org/2020/04/24/raytheon-blessed-by-red-hat/ [10:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/21/peace-activists-occupy-roof-raytheon-building-protest-war-profiteering [10:53] TR Bot Peace Activists Occupy Roof of Raytheon Building to Protest War Profiteering [10:53] TR Bot Giving Awards to Raytheon Wont Help Red Hats Image | Techrights [10:54] TR News What has EFF done about it? Except spreading hate of its own? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/anti-war-hacktivism-leading-digital-xenophobia-and-more-hostile-internet [10:54] TR Bot Anti-War Hacktivism is Leading to Digital Xenophobia and a More Hostile Internet | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:56] matey the swish machine has only 70 steps but its way more epic. the guy has a ball rolling off the roof of his house-- theres a bicycle wheel that rolls across with nothing to guide it. you could have twice as many steps and not be as cool as that [10:57] matey ^ guiness book rube goldberg machine (im sure the swish machine guy isnt mad at them, im just saying his is better than the record setting one) [10:57] *bnchs (~bnchs@mcv3f6e76erzy.irc) has joined #techrights [10:58] matey theyre done at entirely different levels of scale and skill [10:58] bnchs yes [10:58] bnchs everyone is hating on russians [10:58] bnchs "hacktivism" [10:58] matey russians are ok [10:58] matey not pudding [10:58] bnchs but they discriminate against russians entirely [10:58] matey thats dumb [10:59] bnchs and it wasnt just a week ago, Brandon Nozaki Miller inserted malware into node-ipc [10:59] matey node like node.js? npm, etc? [10:59] bnchs that overwrites files in hard drive with hearts if IP was russian [10:59] bnchs matey: it was a npm package ● Mar 22 [11:00] matey that overwrites files in hard drive with hearts <- does he have blue hair? [11:00] bnchs no [11:00] bnchs his social control media accounts got hacked for that [11:00] bnchs and he got doxed [11:00] bnchs turns out he cheated on his wife [11:01] matey hacktivism targets companies and governments [11:01] matey if you just target civilians based on, whatever [11:01] matey thats not hacktivism, thats just being a cunt [11:01] bnchs also he got pizzabombed and swatted [11:01] bnchs people called the police on him [11:01] matey i would have been against the swatting [11:02] matey though really, thats a crime so... calling the police would be redundant [11:02] bnchs yeah [11:02] matey is he being charged? [11:02] bnchs well i dont know [11:03] matey im a bit sympathetic to people who actually do... conscientious... this wasnt-- hes a dick [11:03] bnchs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Miller_(motorcyclist) [11:03] TR Bot Brandon Miller (motorcyclist) - Wikipedia [11:03] bnchs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Miller_(motorcyclist) [11:03] TR Bot Brandon Miller (motorcyclist) - Wikipedia [11:03] matey he has a wikipedia page? [11:03] bnchs this was his self-made wikipedia page [11:04] matey does he ride competitively or something? i can go to the link, but its slightly involved [11:04] *psydroid9 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [11:04] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [11:05] TR News #HowTo Install AnyDesk on a Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, and Other major Flavours) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162832 [11:05] TR Bot How to Install AnyDesk on a Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, and Other major Flavours) | Tux Machines [11:05] bnchs no [11:05] bnchs and even then he deserves to be doxed [11:05] bnchs nothing but a malicious dev [11:06] matey devils advocate (not really) time [11:06] matey actually not devils advocate-- just looking at this from another angle [11:07] matey any reasonable configuration of node-ipc [11:07] matey would not... [11:07] matey i dont know how node-ipc works, but you would hope it didnt have the permissions to write to anything important [11:07] matey ive never used node.js-- i thought about it lots of times [11:08] matey then it moved to github and i was like "no, thats ok" [11:08] TR News Stop calling patents "IP" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/21/top-economists-and-oxfam-leader-demand-truly-just-covid-ip-waiver [11:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/21/top-economists-and-oxfam-leader-demand-truly-just-covid-ip-waiver [11:08] TR Bot Top Economists and Oxfam Leader Demand Truly Just Covid IP Waiver [11:08] matey or npm moved there [11:08] bnchs node-ipc was meant for stuff like inter-process communications [11:08] bnchs unix sockets [11:08] matey hence the name [11:08] bnchs TCP sockets or UDP [11:08] matey but does ipc need to be able to write files? [11:08] bnchs if it needs to talk to the socket, yes [11:08] TR News GulagTube censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/copyright-as-censorship-youtuber-pulls-down-gofundme-video-to-help-victim-of-viral-youtube-jumping-tesla-stunt [11:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/copyright-as-censorship-youtuber-pulls-down-gofundme-video-to-help-victim-of-viral-youtube-jumping-tesla-stunt [11:09] TR Bot As Censorship: YouTuber Pulls Down GoFundMe Video To Help Victim Of Viral YouTube Jumping Tesla Stunt | Techdirt [11:09] bnchs but the problem is node.js is inflexiblr [11:09] bnchs node-ipc gets ran with same perms as the rest of the program [11:09] matey right [11:09] bnchs which is the user running the program [11:09] matey this is why pledge is cool [11:10] matey i dont know if pledge would help with this, it seems like the sort of scenario where pledge is useful though [11:10] matey none of which is a defence of miller obviously [11:10] matey im simply trying to figure out how much best practices would have mitigated this [11:11] matey if youre only running node-ipc on production then it hoses those machines [11:11] matey but probably youre using it in development, and... [11:11] bnchs yes [11:11] bnchs vue.js relies on node-ipc [11:11] *psydroid9 has quit (connection closed) [11:11] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [11:11] bnchs unity hub relies on node-ipc [11:12] bnchs its a supply chain attack [11:12] matey of course [11:12] TR News "In 2018, a court in the Netherlands ruled that companies selling access to a pirate IPTV playlist acted illegally, even though they weren't the suppliers of the infringing streams." https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-sellers-who-refused-to-pay-a-cash-settlement-get-sued-lose-220321/ [11:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-sellers-who-refused-to-pay-a-cash-settlement-get-sued-lose-220321/ [11:12] TR Bot IPTV Sellers Who Refused to Pay a Cash Settlement Get Sued & Lose * TorrentFreak [11:12] TR News "The bill requires online hosting services to implement standard technical protection measures" https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-senators-introduce-smart-copyright-act-to-combat-piracy-220321/ [11:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-senators-introduce-smart-copyright-act-to-combat-piracy-220321/ [11:12] TR Bot Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy * TorrentFreak [11:12] matey /me has described supply chain attacks as ways for corporations to take over free software projects [11:12] matey hopefully with the goal of people getting wise to this [11:13] bnchs vue.js and unity hub is still affected by this [11:13] TR News Internet is under attack https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/21/digital-darkness [11:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/21/digital-darkness [11:13] TR Bot NO TITLE [11:13] matey github is one enormous supply chain attack [11:13] bnchs when you launch them, the peacenotwar package (that brandon made and hard dep'd it to node-ipc) will make a file on the desktop [11:13] matey vue.js and unity hub is still affected by this <- people havent already rolled back to a safe version of node-ipc? [11:14] TR News Best Lightweight Linux Distributions For Older Computers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162833 [11:14] TR Bot Best Lightweight Linux Distributions For Older Computers | Tux Machines [11:14] bnchs well npm did rollback to a safe version i think [11:14] matey so the only people affected are those who havent heard, or havent done anything? [11:14] matey obvously it doesnt fix itself [11:14] bnchs the thing is creepy by itself [11:15] matey i agree [11:15] bnchs if you see a file that wasnt there before [11:15] bnchs you would think theres malware [11:15] TR News 10 Best Free and Open Source Universal Access Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162834 [11:15] TR Bot 10 Best Free and Open Source Universal Access Tools | Tux Machines [11:15] matey out of curiosity... [11:15] bnchs brandon miller is still trying to justify this btw on github [11:16] matey does the package (which deletes things to be a dick) [11:16] matey and github hasnt banned him because npm is special to them [11:16] matey does the package even spread useful information (to fight russian propaganda) to users? [11:16] matey that would have been a better hack than you know... [11:16] bnchs no [11:16] matey /me shrugs [11:17] bnchs it just makes a file in your desktop now [11:17] bnchs called "FROM-AMERICA-WITH-LOVE.txt" [11:17] matey and the file isnt even useful? [11:17] bnchs no its just a bunch of garbage [11:17] matey FROM-AMERICA-WITH-LOVE <- james bond reference [11:17] matey "from russia with love" [11:18] bnchs this shit would only unironically get russians in trouble [11:18] bnchs "huh WHATS THIS FILE" [11:18] TR News "From a performance standpoint we know building a homebrew Raspberry Pi cluster doesnt make a lot of sense, as even a fairly run of the mill desktop x86 machine is sure to run circles around it." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/21/cluster-your-pi-zeros-in-style-with-3d-printed-cray-1/ [11:18] bnchs "you have fake info???" [11:18] TR Bot Your Pi Zeros In Style With 3D Printed Cray-1 | Hackaday [11:19] TR News That's a war on scientific progress, too https://hackaday.com/2022/03/21/one-giant-leap-backwards-for-humankind-what-the-russia-ukraine-war-means-for-the-iss/ [11:19] TR Bot Giant Leap (Backwards) For Humankind: What The Russia-Ukraine War Means For The ISS | Hackaday [11:19] matey missed opportunity [11:19] matey this was a hack that could have done some good in the world [11:20] bnchs developers shouldn't be a "hero" [11:20] matey developers shouldn't be a "hero" <- thats a good rule of thumb [11:20] bnchs this is will only backfire [11:20] matey im starting with the premise that he felt COMPELLED to hack something [11:21] bnchs and make people think that their program is simply a trojan horse [11:21] matey he could have used it to spread information to people who might not have it otherwise [11:21] TR News Stop saying "Big Tech", EFF. You use the vocabulary of Microsoft lobbyists. Have Microsoft moles taken over parts of EFF, too? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/brazils-remuneration-right-strengthens-big-tech-and-big-media-cost-free-expression [11:21] TR Bot Brazils Remuneration Right Strengthens Big Tech and Big Media, At the Cost of Free Expression and a Free Press | Electronic Frontier Foundation [11:21] matey the shirt with the hddvd key, thats was a good hack [11:21] bnchs yes [11:21] matey even if it was useless to most people... it served the public [11:21] bnchs something that doesnt involve sneaking malware into libraries [11:21] matey yeah [11:22] matey this is just bullshit [11:22] TR News EFF = online censorship https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/make-social-media-work-better-make-it-fail-better-0 [11:22] TR Bot To Make Social Media Work Better, Make It Fail Better | Electronic Frontier Foundation [11:22] matey of course you get to a certain age and you start thinking this way about hacks :) [11:22] matey but i always preferred hackers with good intentions anyway [11:23] matey or ones that went after people who really deserved it [11:23] bnchs you could sneak info in a DVD [11:23] bnchs something that doesnt impact a software's development [11:23] bnchs in a horrible way [11:25] matey i imagine node-ipc will start paying more attention to [11:25] matey did he have full access or did someone let his pull request in? [11:25] matey do we know? [11:26] bnchs he owns node-ipc [11:26] bnchs it will probably be forked [11:26] matey ah [11:26] TR News Boycott Starbucks. It's a company that hates human beings. https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-workers-have-now-filed-to-unionize-at-over-150-locations/ [11:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-workers-have-now-filed-to-unionize-at-over-150-locations/ [11:26] TR Bot Starbucks Workers Have Now Filed to Unionize at Over 150 Locations [11:26] matey it will probably be forked <- yeah [11:26] bnchs by a better programmer [11:26] matey hooray for freedom 3 [11:26] bnchs that will not use it as a vehicle for malicious activity [11:27] matey i wonder if hes on drugs [11:27] matey i mean, youd think with the level of responsibility he had with node-ipc [11:27] bnchs maybe after he paid 50 dollars to an adultery site [11:27] matey it would take something serious for [11:28] TR News Netflix trying to 'cash in', using serfs who chose DRM over rational distribution of "content" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/and-here-comes-the-backlash-to-netflix-trying-to-play-password-police/ [11:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/and-here-comes-the-backlash-to-netflix-trying-to-play-password-police/ [11:28] TR Bot Here Comes The Backlash To Netflix Trying To Play Password Police | Techdirt [11:28] TR News Propaganda boxes perish https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/cable-tv-companies-lost-nearly-5-million-subscribers-in-2021/ [11:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/cable-tv-companies-lost-nearly-5-million-subscribers-in-2021/ [11:28] TR Bot TV Companies Lost Nearly 5 Million Subscribers in 2021 | Techdirt [11:28] matey yeah i know better than to assume all developers are responsible just because they [11:29] matey i mean we trusted shuttleworth with root :) [11:29] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162835 [11:29] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:29] matey and he couldnt even repay that with an honest answer [11:29] bnchs also he was planning this [11:29] matey "i fucked up, im s" "YOU ALREADY TRUST ME N00BZ!" [11:29] bnchs brandon was planning for this day [11:30] matey how far back? [11:30] bnchs because the malware was written maybe many months ago [11:30] bnchs evidence of that was erased [11:30] bnchs let me check [11:31] matey you think it was political to begin with, or just "imma put a backdoor in because... i can have this update if i ever want to get back at whoever" [11:31] TR News EFF pretends to value free speech. I LOL. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/new-filter-mandate-bill-unmitigated-disaster [11:31] TR Bot The New Filter Mandate Bill Is An Unmitigated Disaster | Electronic Frontier Foundation [11:31] matey then he saw an opportunity to use it [11:32] matey i realise this is a more convoluted scenario, just not a completely implausible one [11:32] matey occams razor works better with physics than people [11:32] matey people do crazy shit [11:33] bnchs yeah [11:33] bnchs maybe he saw the ukrainian invasion thing as justification [11:34] TR News Systemic collapse starts like this https://truthout.org/articles/hundreds-of-chevron-workers-begin-strike-as-company-refuses-further-bargaining/ [11:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/hundreds-of-chevron-workers-begin-strike-as-company-refuses-further-bargaining/ [11:34] TR Bot Hundreds of Chevron Workers Begin Strike as Company Refuses Further Bargaining [11:38] matey https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-events/news/2022/march/unite-calls-on-computer-chipmaker-arm-to-halt-job-cuts-and-open-up-the-books/ [11:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: unitetheunion.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-events/news/2022/march/unite-calls-on-computer-chipmaker-arm-to-halt-job-cuts-and-open-up-the-books/ [11:38] TR Bot Unite calls on chipmaker ARM to halt job cuts and open up the books [11:38] bnchs matey: https://github.com/RIAEvangelist/heart-attack [11:38] TR Bot - RIAEvangelist/heart-attack: node js virus example. Only install on VM for testing. Never install on any primary computer or server. [11:38] bnchs the malware was made back in july 2021 [11:38] matey was it made for node=ipc? (is that the same author or a 3rd party) [11:39] bnchs although this only affects HTML pages [11:39] matey oh [11:39] matey so he made it nastier [11:39] bnchs yeah [11:40] TR News "Way back in 2020 I had jokingly suggested on Twitter that we should set up a bracket for the most frequently misunderstood legal concepts" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/announcing-techdirts-march-madness-get-your-bracket-for-the-most-misunderstood-legal-concept/ [11:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/announcing-techdirts-march-madness-get-your-bracket-for-the-most-misunderstood-legal-concept/ [11:40] TR Bot Techdirts March Madness: Get Your Bracket For The Most Misunderstood Legal Concept | Techdirt [11:40] bnchs the version in node-ipc affected every single file type [11:40] TR News Free Speech https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/the-culture-of-free-speech-includes-criticism-of-others-speech-get-over-it/ [11:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/the-culture-of-free-speech-includes-criticism-of-others-speech-get-over-it/ [11:40] TR Bot Culture Of Free Speech Includes Criticism Of Others Speech; Get Over It | Techdirt [11:40] bnchs and overwrote the entire file contents with a heart emoji [11:40] matey i assume its the unicode of ascii 3 [11:40] matey i mean the-- [11:41] matey cp437 is actually separate from unicode 03 [11:41] matey but in cp437 a heart is ascii 03 (which is unicode 03) [11:41] matey the wikipedia article on cp437 shows you where all the unicode glyphs are for those characters [11:41] matey roy uses some of them for the bot messages in here [11:42] bnchs yeah [11:42] matey "box drawing" characters and "gradients" [11:42] bnchs but assuming that this malware goes back a year ago [11:42] bnchs brandon was planning to add it to node-ipc [11:42] bnchs or maybe [11:43] matey or maybe he just found it recently? [11:43] matey and changed *.html to * [11:43] bnchs yeah [11:43] TR News STOP PAYING ZUCKERBERG! https://www.desmog.com/2022/03/21/instagram-ads-can-help-fight-climate-disinformation/ [11:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: desmog.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.desmog.com/2022/03/21/instagram-ads-can-help-fight-climate-disinformation/ [11:43] TR Bot Ads Can Help Climate Facts Reach the 'Super Online,' Report Suggests - DeSmog [11:43] matey unless we know otherwise, im going to assume this wasnt planned farther back than the invasion [11:43] bnchs that seems more possible [11:44] matey unless hes the author of the original malware (im guessing its 3rd party) [11:44] bnchs he is the author [11:44] matey im trying to understand how malware (which is documented as such) finds its way to github [11:44] bnchs its a node.js "demo" [11:44] matey ahh [11:44] matey "demo" [11:44] matey if hes the author of the original, thats different [11:45] schestowitz-TR matey: Microsoft doesn't check anything [11:45] schestowitz-TR it relays malware through npm also [11:45] schestowitz-TR and then uses the media to blame the victims [11:45] schestowitz-TR typical [11:45] schestowitz-TR and the media never calls them out on it [11:45] schestowitz-TR what they do all day is NOT check the integrity of things they disseminate [11:45] matey schestowitz-TR of course not, but if its OPENLY malware (not hidden in some routine but packaged as such) i would expect people to report it SOMETIMES [11:45] schestowitz-TR unike Mozilla (to a degree) and WordPress [11:46] bnchs btw [11:46] schestowitz-TR WordPress used to do review of themes [11:46] matey after that, i would expect the USUAL level of care we have come to expect from microsoft [11:46] schestowitz-TR to ensure no php malware in them [11:46] matey really i was just curious what the policy was [11:46] bnchs the malware in node-ipc was obfuscated base64 code that was hidden in a seemingly innocent commit titled "added ssl" [11:46] matey not if they followed it [11:46] bnchs or something [11:47] matey the malware in node-ipc was obfuscated base64 code that was hidden in a seemingly innocent commit titled "added ssl" <- ah, ok [11:47] matey svchost.dll [11:47] TR News Lula Counters FBI-Backed "Corruption" Prosecution https://www.mintpressnews.com/lula-da-silva-counters-fbi-prosecution-lead-brazi-presidential-race/279981/ US loves accusing "RUSHA" of meddling... never itself [11:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: mintpressnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mintpressnews.com/lula-da-silva-counters-fbi-prosecution-lead-brazi-presidential-race/279981/ [11:47] TR Bot Lula Counters FBI-Backed "Corruption" Prosecution to Lead Brazil's 2022 Presidential Race [11:47] bnchs he deleted it after people caught onto it [11:47] matey svchost.exe [11:48] TR News More patents -> more variants -> more deaths https://truthout.org/articles/unease-about-possible-new-covid-surge-grows-with-rise-of-ba-2-variant/ [11:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/unease-about-possible-new-covid-surge-grows-with-rise-of-ba-2-variant/ [11:48] TR Bot Unease About Possible New COVID Surge Grows With Rise of BA.2 Variant [11:50] TR News "This years recipients are computer scientist Paul Eggert, a faculty member at UCLAs Samueli School of Engineering, Emacs contributor Protesilaos Stavrou, and SecuRepairs" https://fossforce.com/2022/03/whos-who-in-open-source-three-honorees-receive-free-software-awards-at-libreplanet/ [11:50] TR Bot Three Honorees Receive 'Free Software Awards' at FSF's LibrePlanet - FOSS Force [11:51] matey you know, he probably thought this was going to make him a hero [11:51] matey as in, it would gain him respect or something [11:51] matey its probably more about that than even trying to help anyone [11:52] matey in other words, opportunism [11:52] matey a shot at fame [11:52] bnchs he only got bitten in the ass for it [11:52] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [11:52] matey whether its for selfish reasons or actual "good" intentions, its REALLY stupid [11:52] bnchs developers shouldn't be a "hero" [11:52] TR News "I guess ten years is long enough that Senator Pat Leahy thought everyone had forgotten about the SOPA/PIPA disaster that he was a leading reason for. Senator Leahy is on his way out of the Senate" ttps://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/senators-leahy-tillis-to-team-up-to-suggest-destroying-the-internet-for-hollywoods-sake/ [11:53] matey i dont know if i agree with that as a blanket statement [11:53] bnchs hero as in [11:53] matey i would say for certain MOST attempts to be a "hero" are going to be misguided [11:53] bnchs sneaking in malware [11:53] matey well yeah of course [11:53] bnchs botnet crap [11:53] TR News "Who are we to judge?, say federal court judges. Thats the questionable conclusion reached by an otherwise solid reading [PDF] of the constitutional implications of one of law enforcements favorite new tools: reverse warrants." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/federal-court-says-good-faith-prevails-in-deployment-of-extremely-questionable-reverse-warrant/ [11:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/federal-court-says-good-faith-prevails-in-deployment-of-extremely-questionable-reverse-warrant/ [11:53] TR Bot Court Says Good Faith Prevails In Deployment Of Extremely Questionable Reverse Warrant | Techdirt [11:53] bnchs or maybe even delete locale files [11:53] bnchs for russians [11:53] matey i mean this is one step up from script kidding shit [11:54] matey its like if youre a script kiddie but then also someone trusts you with the supply chain [11:54] bnchs deleting locale files is more harmless than this [11:55] matey why the fuck would you delete locale files? [11:55] bnchs locale files for the program [11:55] matey loads of ukranians speak russie [11:55] matey russian [11:55] bnchs yeah [11:55] matey just dumb [11:56] bnchs most programmers' attempts to be a "hero" by doing these bullshit [11:56] matey any notable projects that deleted locale files? [11:56] bnchs uptime-kuma [11:56] matey most programmers' attempts to be a "hero" by doing these bullshit <- surely this is a general category of idiocy to stay away from [11:57] bnchs its a project that lets you moniter the uptime of your services [11:57] matey i guess ps wasnt being maintained ● Mar 22 [12:00] bnchs the best way to handle the invasion is to... [12:01] bnchs do nothing (to your program) [12:03] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.94 [12:19] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [12:20] CrystalMath that crap is not the first and by no means the last example of malware in open source repositories [12:23] matey that crap is not the first and by no means the last example of malware in open source repositories <- no, pypi is already famous for this [12:23] matey and gnome-looks [12:24] matey themes with active code! why not? [12:24] matey microsofts patent expired [12:24] matey this isnt a new problem [12:24] matey its the latest instance of an old problem [12:25] matey pretty sure its not even the first instance with npm [12:26] matey just the most famous (now) [12:26] matey and you know, every time mozilla adds a new feature to firefucks [12:26] matey thats basically "open source" malware too [12:28] matey the good news is that this wont destroy brandon miller for good [12:28] matey chances are, mozilla will hire him next year as their new cto [12:28] matey since this is the sort of shit they would do anyway [12:29] matey "at mozilla, everyone is a hero" [12:30] SomeH4x0r what this time? [12:31] matey brandon miller [12:31] matey and mozilla [12:32] matey SomeH4x0r: hypothetical / satire [12:36] *wallacer has quit (connection closed) [12:36] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [12:40] TR News [Meme] Goodbye to the OSIs Microsoft Treasure(r) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/open-source-initiative-goodbyes/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/open-source-initiative-goodbyes/ [12:40] TR Bot [Meme] Goodbye to the OSIs Microsoft Treasure(r) | Techrights [12:40] TR News You know the Web/WWW is officially dead/dying when the W3C has OUTSOURCED its own Web site to CLOWNFLARE. Incredible. [12:41] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@mcv3f6e76erzy.irc) has joined #techrights [12:41] SomeH4x0r when it happened? [12:41] matey it didnt [12:41] matey next year / never [12:54] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:55] TR News [Meme] EPO to Patent Blogs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/how-to-shut-up-media/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/how-to-shut-up-media/ [12:55] TR Bot [Meme] EPO to Patent Blogs | Techrights ● Mar 22 [13:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:02] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.205.35) has joined #techrights [13:04] MinceR schestowitz-TR: :3 [13:05] schestowitz MinceR: many Cheetah of the Day in gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/ [13:05] MinceR i thought that was a snow leopard :> [13:06] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:06] matey mincer: forced update [13:06] matey though the battery doesnt last as long now [13:15] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/mildly-terrifying-images-16.jpg [13:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/mildly-terrifying-images-16.jpg [13:17] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:41] psydruid free software as malware [13:41] psydruid way to go, free software developers [13:41] psydruid you are now just as good as your closed source brothers [13:42] matey imo if its on github its open source, not free software [13:42] matey same for gnu [13:42] TR News xkcd: Galaxies https://xkcd.com/2596/ [13:42] TR Bot Galaxies [13:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2596/ [13:42] psydruid I wonder if that's the next step [13:42] matey people say theres no difference between open source and free software-- open source says that anyway [13:42] psydruid to poison free software with this crap too [13:42] matey psydruid: it happened with sourceforge [13:43] matey gimp even (but only the windows version) [13:43] matey via an installer sourceforge added [13:43] matey the difference between free software and open source is a really simple one [13:43] matey open source doesnt give a shit about your freedom [13:44] psydruid and I wonder if this is one of Microsoft's goals [13:44] matey maybe [13:44] matey funnily enough im not sure this one has anything to do with microsoft [13:44] matey though... it is the sort of story they love to feed to the tech press [13:45] matey linux malware (actually windows, but malware, so "linux") etc [13:45] psydruid yeah [13:46] matey part of gnu wget is developed on github now [13:46] matey maybe that will become protestware too? [13:47] matey i suppose the term "dickware" will only get so far [13:47] matey psydroid: my question is [13:47] matey how long until mozilla hires this guy? [13:48] matey i mean theyve been adding malware for a while [13:48] matey heres their man [13:48] CrystalMath psydruid: i'm coming to the conclusion that there's only two kinds of people in the west: ignorant and evil [13:48] CrystalMath and that applies to *everyone* who is pro-western as well [13:48] CrystalMath this isn't Microsoft, it was all Brandon [13:49] matey CrystalMath: no, theres a witch of the west and a witch of the east [13:49] psydruid matey, malicious companies hire malicious actors [13:49] matey but are you a good witch or a bad witch? [13:49] psydruid I wonder who still hires the good guys [13:50] matey theres a telescope with infrared capabilities they launched several years ago [13:50] matey maybe it can find a good company [13:50] matey the good companies get bought by the bad companies [13:50] matey the bad companies also get bought by bad companies [13:51] matey the solution seems to be dont get bought by a company [13:51] matey thats easier said than done [13:51] psydruid CrystalMath, people in the west often don't realize their own hypocrisy [13:51] matey s/in the west// [13:52] CrystalMath i did make a mistake, what i said only applies to people who are pro-western [13:52] CrystalMath so it's not about people in the west, but people who are pro-western [13:52] matey /me is space-western [13:53] *psydruid feels like eating western spaghetti straight out of a spaghetti western [13:54] psydruid CrystalMath, why would people be pro-western? [13:55] psydruid what's in it for them? [13:55] matey "sawdust songs of the plaid bartenders, western unions of the country westerns. silver foxes looking for romance in their chainsmoke kansas flashdance ass-pants."-- beck, "hotwax" [13:57] CrystalMath psydruid: they are either ignorant or evil [13:58] CrystalMath either they don't understand how evil the west is, or they support it, there is no third possibility, really [13:58] kingoffrance i actually agree with CrystalMath 100% on this, but for different reasons perhaps. ● Mar 22 [14:00] matey putin invades ukraine to stop nato, some arsehole on github attacks russian ips, now the entire west is the problem [14:00] matey im inclined to agree that the west is a problem, i still dont understand the timeline of events here [14:01] MinceR the entire universe belongs to putler and anyone who disagrees is the problem [14:01] MinceR obviously [14:01] matey no theres sometimes weirder than that, i just dont know what it is [14:02] matey something ^ [14:02] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.93 [14:03] matey funnily enough free software and open source is largely an east vs west thing too [14:03] matey free software is tupac, open source is biggie [14:03] matey and just like tupac and biggie, they used to be friends [14:04] matey at least perens. maybe. [14:04] matey tldr: bruce perens is biggie [14:05] matey i must be tired though [14:05] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:05] matey because tupac was west, i had it backwards [14:05] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:06] matey stallman is doing a thing in april on the state of east side software [14:06] matey maybe the fsf will move to silicon valley [14:11] psydruid Big FSF [14:11] matey right? [14:11] psydruid yes [14:11] psydruid they should go for it [14:12] matey get those contracts [14:12] matey make ibm jealous [14:13] psydruid so IBM will also want to move to the west? [14:13] matey so ibm will look foolish for withdrawing their money [14:14] matey big fsf makes all the connections [14:14] matey knows all the right people [14:14] matey big-money non-profit [14:14] matey billion-dollar non-profit! [14:15] matey its not what you do, its who you know [14:15] psydruid I can see this becoming a really successful special operation [14:15] matey its not what you stand for, its what they want [14:15] matey of course the only problem is that the fsf already got rid of their big money (allegedly) [14:16] matey i say it doesnt matter, the money might not be there anymore [14:16] matey but the culture is still fucked [14:16] matey maybe theyll prove me wrong [14:16] matey been waiting for 7 years now [14:17] matey but every few months they say "wait, just-- real soon, right around the corner" [14:17] psydruid 7 big years in tibet [14:17] matey and everything will be different-- and then, lucy grabs the football and charlie brown ends up on his arse again [14:17] matey 7 years in tibet-- fsf: "ha, want TIBET?" [14:18] matey psydruid: whats bothering you the most? im having trouble getting a read for... [14:19] matey i mean what it is exactly [14:19] psydruid matey, nothing bothers me anymore [14:20] matey oh thats bad [14:20] psydruid I'm just trying to see where to go from here [14:20] matey thats good [14:21] matey this node thing doesnt feel very big to me yet [14:21] matey it still feels like something thats supposed to feel big [14:21] psydruid I can't let the way things are now influence my outlook for the future [14:21] psydruid or I would become eternally depressed [14:22] matey "aint nothin goin on but history"-- basement jaxx, "red alert" [14:22] matey a little glib, but relevant [14:23] XRevan86 9 years [14:24] matey 9 years <- ok, but how do you figure [14:24] matey oh, youve been waiting that long? [14:24] XRevan86 matey: That's the verdict on Navalny. [14:24] matey ah [14:24] XRevan86 He got 9 more years. [14:24] XRevan86 in a strict colony [14:24] psydruid 9 years in purgatory [14:29] CrystalMath matey: you're forgetting the part where ukraine kills people in the donbass for 8 years, blocks a river to turn crimea into a desert, etc... [14:30] matey CrystalMath: no, i dont [14:31] matey i just dont do the math the way you do [14:31] matey nor does anyone else in here as far as i can tell [14:31] matey im pretty sure everyone in here (more or less) is aware of those events [14:32] matey for example, psydroid posted a video that showed those as part of the explanation for whats going on [14:32] CrystalMath yeah i just got angry and lashed out [14:33] CrystalMath but i blame the originators of this, euromaidan, for everything that happened, up to and including the node-ipc malware [14:34] matey i blame brandon miller for node-ipc [14:34] CrystalMath and "we just wanted to join the EU" doesn't cut it once you realize that the EU as an organization supports these violent coups, and various violent behavior [14:34] matey hes the idiot that thought it was a good idea [14:34] matey once you realize that the EU as an organization <- im no fan of the eu [14:35] XRevan86 At least node-ipc reverted the destructive malware and only kept the notification code. [14:36] CrystalMath matey: they were threatening the UK as well, and caused delays in the brexit procedures [14:36] CrystalMath but whatever bad thing the EU does, pro-EU people one-up it [14:36] XRevan86 matey: CrystalMath hates the EU, and that somehow means that he supports Russia practically unconditionally. [14:37] matey i dont like the eu at all [14:37] matey but that doesnt change my dislike-pudding setting [14:37] matey they arent linked [14:37] matey i dont know if there are any "good guys" in this anywhere [14:37] CrystalMath matey: well you live in america, i guess, you're safe from the EU [14:37] matey its like an arsehole sandwich, and everyones in the middle [14:38] CrystalMath i'm really not, i will literally have to run away from here [14:38] XRevan86 The Donbass conflict was pretty nasty, I don't know why people like CrystalMath assume that the occupying force there didn't commit any atrocities. [14:38] matey CrystalMath: how is that different from the ukranians that already had to evacuate? [14:38] CrystalMath matey: i pretty much concur that there isn't a good side [14:39] matey I don't know why people like CrystalMath assume that the occupying force there didn't commit any atrocities. <- my assumption is CrystalMath assumes theres must be a "good side" [14:39] XRevan86 In fact, because I know that DPR/LPR does disinformation at the same level (if not worse) as Russia right now, I tend to distrust their claims by default. [14:40] CrystalMath no, what i think is that the pepole of DPR and LPR are regular people, who were born in ukraine (maybe SSR), lived in ukraine, and then seceded because their rights and lives were severely threatened [14:40] XRevan86 I didn't follow that conflict as closely, so I won't make any statements with certainty. [14:40] CrystalMath if you believe that DPR and LPR officials are russians planted there by Putin, then i understand your view, but i think that's completely wrong [14:40] matey CrystalMath: im not sure youve managed to separate your politics from their reality [14:41] matey which is fine as long as it doesnt lead to otherwise inexplicable conclusions. [14:41] CrystalMath i believe "their reality" as absolutely true, in part thanks to various independent journalists who have been there [14:42] XRevan86 I know for sure that Russia (Surkov specifically) is directly involved in decision making in DPR. [14:42] XRevan86 So irrespectively of whether Russians or Ukrainians, there was planting involved [14:43] matey "irrespectively of whether Russians or Ukrainians" sums up my feelings about everything so far [14:44] XRevan86 "because their rights and lives were severely threatened" <- The word is "FUD". [14:45] CrystalMath matey: but yes i understand that me having to run away from the incoming threat of the EU is pretty much the same as ukrainians who are now running from russia, or the people from the donbass that ran away from ukraine into russia [14:46] matey CrystalMath: i see a couple megacorporations fighting over the same resource, and no "good side" [14:46] matey dpr lpr ukr <- pawns in this game [14:46] CrystalMath matey: it's just that, you know, the EU side is the one that initiated the problem [14:46] matey less sure about ukr... the shoe fits, sort of [14:46] CrystalMath it's EU expansionism that started it, not russia [14:46] matey russia wasnt expanding? [14:46] CrystalMath of course not [14:47] matey crimea just "drifted" that way? [14:47] CrystalMath crimea left ukraine after euromaidan [14:47] CrystalMath euromaidan was 2013 [14:47] matey i think the thing is [14:47] CrystalMath euromaidan came first, don't forget that [14:47] matey your timeline starts in the middle of something even bigger [14:48] CrystalMath crimea would still be in ukraine if Yanukovich remained president [14:48] matey which challenges the entire premise of your argument [14:48] matey or maybe it doesnt, but so far thats how it seems [14:48] CrystalMath but the ukraine's dialogs with the EU would be over and out; ukraine would probably have lots of trade deals with russia and belarus, etc... it would be lost to the west [14:49] CrystalMath matey: okay, explain it to me then, if it wasn't the EU that started it, who did and how? [14:49] CrystalMath what happened before 2013? [14:49] matey CrystalMath: lets start with the fact that you underestimate how much i dislike the the eu [14:50] matey but i think youre making too much of this about the eu when its more about nato [14:50] matey but you really want it to be about the eu [14:50] matey and it sort of is [14:50] matey maybe less than you make it out to be [14:51] matey obviously the eu is a big player here, but thats not your argument [14:51] XRevan86 Should I find footage of Putin himself saying that Russia had troops in Crimea? [14:51] matey your argument is they STARTED it [14:51] matey that has to be an oversimplification [14:51] XRevan86 Crimea "left Ukraine" by use of Russian military overtaking Crimean administration. [14:52] matey if everything hinges on who started it, and even that is an oversimplification, i cant guess how the logic that issues from there is going to be very useful [14:52] matey its going to be very one-sided [14:52] matey and here we are [14:52] CrystalMath matey: i am aware that the US, particularly under democrats, is also on this new world order route [14:52] CrystalMath NATO is just the US and most of the EU [14:52] matey i literally dislike everyone involved-- except ukraine, because i dont HAVE to [14:53] matey theyre the ones being invaded-- with or without good reason-- [14:53] activelow question is what Ukraine/USA/NATO did [14:53] CrystalMath there is no good reason to be invaded [14:53] matey and i dislike both sides that want to play "host" to them [14:53] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/3w4LnR3bcQQ maybe CrystalMath knows enough Russian to understand this [14:53] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3w4LnR3bcQQ [14:53] TR Bot yewtu.be | - Invidious [14:53] CrystalMath but i don't understand how you can excuse them for what they did in donbass [14:53] activelow with crimea, and Ukraine joining NATO/EU/USA, russian military had lost access to their crimea fleet [14:53] activelow and harbors [14:53] matey but i don't understand how you can excuse them <- ah, well then [14:54] XRevan86 "but i don't understand how you can excuse them for what they did in donbass" <- This is a perfect statement. [14:54] matey maybe its because its some invention of yours, based on "either x or you excuse them" or some nonsense like that. [14:54] matey i dont recall excusing anyone [14:54] activelow and there is rarely any report about Ukraine in possession of ballistic missiles, if any [14:54] XRevan86 CrystalMath: But I don't understand how you can excuse DPR/Russia for what they did in Donbass [14:55] CrystalMath XRevan86: what did they do, except want to be free? [14:55] activelow Selensky himself argued the Budapest Memorandum was void...; which prohibited the possession of particular weapons in return for security guarantees [14:55] MinceR vladolf has no business being in donbass, or crimea anyway [14:55] matey oh hell, what does ANYONE do, except want to be free? [14:55] MinceR then again, he has no right to rule russia either [14:56] matey every time someone invades someone else its about freedom [14:56] MinceR putler violated the Budapest Memorandum before Zelenskyy came to power [14:56] MinceR how would it not be void? [14:56] CrystalMath MinceR: so you're a democrat, but you insist that the will of the people is as you say, and not as it is in reality [14:56] XRevan86 CrystalMath: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2016/03/07/locked-up-in-the-donbas literallly picked an article at random [14:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2016/03/07/locked-up-in-the-donbas [14:56] TR Bot NO TITLE [14:56] MinceR CrystalMath: right, because "the people" consists solely of putler? [14:56] matey MinceR: so you're a democrat <- ben shapiro lives [14:56] TR News Its the end for the OSI Treasurer and Board ringleader who took money from Microsoft (in turn giving most of the OSIs money back to Microsoft, promoting its proprietary software as if OSI became the Openwashing Initiative, not the Open Source Initiative) http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/open-source-initiative-goodbyes/ [14:56] TR Bot [Meme] Goodbye to the OSIs Microsoft Treasure(r) | Techrights [14:57] *inky (~inky@78.109.66.134) has joined #techrights [14:57] CrystalMath matey: i meant that in the sense of, someone who believes in democracy, not a US democrat [14:57] TR News The EPO is on a massive strike today, but dont expect the media to mention that; not even blogs touch the subject after a campaign of intimidation, legal bullying, and bribery http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/how-to-shut-up-media/ [14:57] TR Bot [Meme] EPO to Patent Blogs | Techrights [14:57] CrystalMath i know MinceR is hungarian [14:57] matey i withdraw my protest [14:57] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:57] XRevan86 MinceR: Only Russia is allowed to violate international law. [14:57] MinceR of course [14:57] CrystalMath XRevan86: and the US [14:57] MinceR i forgot [14:58] CrystalMath libya, syria, afghanistan, ... if we're gonna talk about international law [14:58] CrystalMath iraq... [14:58] *bnchs (~bnchs@k8xgsu6wchxsq.irc) has joined #techrights [14:58] CrystalMath yugoslavia [14:58] MinceR eastern bloc [14:58] MinceR georgia [14:58] XRevan86 MinceR: Russia can violate its own written agreement but if the other side even mentions anything about it, it's a "wait, that's illegal!" [14:58] MinceR sounds like it [14:58] TR News KeePassXC 2.7.0 is released with major changes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162836 [14:58] TR Bot KeePassXC 2.7.0 is released with major changes | Tux Machines [14:58] matey i figure there are roughly 300 countries that know the usa is a giant hypocritical arsehole about practically everything in the middle east [14:59] MinceR countries can know things? [14:59] activelow pipelines and oil/gas business; with USA/NATO involved where they didn't belong [14:59] matey including the many that followed them there and others who choose not to mention it [14:59] CrystalMath matey: ultimately, the my opinion and MinceR's opinion is fear-based [14:59] activelow meanwhile prices for Oil/Gas in USA are less than 50% of Germany/EU; yet it wasn't enough it seems [14:59] CrystalMath MinceR fears russia so he speaks for the US side [14:59] CrystalMath i fear the EU so i speak for the russian side [14:59] CrystalMath it's not that i don't see that russia didn't do everything great [14:59] matey CrystalMath: i honestly think you infantilise everyone who doesnt see politics your way ● Mar 22 [15:00] MinceR i speak for whichever side is willing to let people live in more freedom [15:00] MinceR it's as simple as that [15:00] CrystalMath MinceR: sure [15:00] *XRevan86 speaks the truth. [15:00] MinceR CrystalMath is incapable of comprehending the difference between being annexed into a dictatorship and voluntarily, democratically joining an organization [15:00] XRevan86 Ain't I the worst? [15:00] CrystalMath for me, freedom is eating meat and driving gas-powered cars [15:00] MinceR yeah [15:00] MinceR truth is the least convenient [15:01] MinceR i tend to eat meat and i drive a gas-powered car [15:01] activelow it was Ukraine/Selensky who initiated association talks with EU (which isn't USA whom Selensky asked to provide weapons, Burisma-Biddler); [15:01] CrystalMath XRevan86: unfortunately, i don't really understand what Putin says in the video, i could read what was written though, somewhat [15:01] matey for me, freedom is eating meat and driving gas-powered cars <- and the fact that people eat meat and [15:01] matey that would make the world more free than it really is [15:01] matey it sets a pretty low bar really [15:01] MinceR with humanity, expect the bar to be low, always [15:01] CrystalMath matey: there's more but i wanted to highlight those things [15:01] CrystalMath the things i am scared of losing [15:02] CrystalMath and the threat is the EU [15:02] matey im pretty sure you can eat meat in most countries [15:02] CrystalMath matey: also, to not be vaccinated [15:02] CrystalMath then again russia isn't so great on that one, either [15:03] MinceR CrystalMath: so, have you not received the BCG vaccine yet? [15:03] matey im against mandatory vaccinations on principle, but [15:03] matey our definition of mandatory probably differs a lot [15:03] MinceR or the DTP one? [15:03] matey if a vaccination is required to travel to other countries... [15:03] CrystalMath MinceR: i only demand the right to not be vaccinated, but i'm glad that i was able to get vaccines that are useful [15:04] matey thats pretty much... i mean thats pretty much how it is in a sane world [15:04] MinceR lol [15:04] MinceR that's quite the mental gymnastics [15:04] CrystalMath the vaccines that i consider useless/harmful are mainly ones that are against the flu [15:04] MinceR so "the right not to be vaccinated" only applies to vaccines you haven't received yet [15:04] CrystalMath i may also consider covid as those as well, but i'm not as certain about it [15:04] MinceR SARS-CoV-2 is not an influenzavirus [15:04] CrystalMath i am absolutely against flu vaccination [15:05] matey basically if youre willing to stay where you are, i dont think people should force you to be vaccinated [15:05] matey but if youre going to travel to other countries, they probably have a right to require it. [15:05] CrystalMath matey: well, then russia needs to do a special operation before the EU arrives and imports austria's plans here [15:05] XRevan86 MinceR: I think CrystalMath's immune system violates his rights. [15:05] MinceR sounds like it [15:05] CrystalMath matey: otherwise i will have to run somehow [15:05] CrystalMath somewhere [15:06] MinceR CrystalMath: do you want to die as a victim to a "special military operation"? [15:07] XRevan86 MinceR: Stopping the war violates CrystalMath's rights of dying from a Putin's bomb. [15:07] CrystalMath MinceR: of course not, but staying put and not getting vaccinated will not be possible unless Putin does some magic [15:07] MinceR lol [15:08] TR News EPO Staff Explains Why Its Going on Strike | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-dissent-explained/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-dissent-explained/ [15:08] TR Bot EPO Staff Explains Why Its Going on Strike | Techrights [15:10] CrystalMath meanwhile, to MinceR, burning people alive in a bulding is a path to "voluntarily, democratically joining an organization" [15:10] MinceR is that what putler does to people in ukraine now? [15:11] CrystalMath MinceR: this is what euromaidan did, XRevan86 confirmed it [15:11] MinceR i've heard of cluster bombing residential buildings and shelling buildings children are taking shelter in [15:11] MinceR i guess it's not much of a stretch [15:11] CrystalMath MinceR: ukraine did that on donetsk recently [15:11] XRevan86 CrystalMath compares an event that involved militant people and unfortunate circumstances, to shelling civilians en masse. [15:11] MinceR also, i'm pretty sure the EU doesn't let anyone join without an actual, real referendum [15:11] matey thats what one too many sweeping generalisations will do, unfortunately [15:12] MinceR (not the bullshit vladolf and his fans pretend are referenda) [15:12] XRevan86 "ukraine did that on donetsk recently" <- Not this again. [15:12] MinceR ah yes, those poor terrorussian soldiers in donetsk [15:12] activelow Ukraine denied almost all "humanitarian corridors" for evakuation for weeks [15:12] XRevan86 MinceR: No, it's not that. I'll find you a link. [15:13] MinceR iirc terrorussians have a habit of shooting people leaving via "humanitarian corridors" [15:13] matey am i cynical for thinking this is more about the vax than about which side did what? [15:13] MinceR they even did that in crimea, in 2014 [15:13] kingoffrance i cannot prove it but i swear my sound card driver on an ancient knoppix sometimes slightly, shortly, messes up the pitch...reminds me of vinyl records...i used to need a winamp plugin to simulate that :D [15:13] matey and is there a major difference between the vax policy of pudding and the one of the eu? [15:13] MinceR matey: seems like it's about worshipping everything that is evil and authoritarian [15:13] MinceR matey: doesn't matter what vladolf or Cheeto Hitler or winnie the pooh or orban say, it must be followed uncritically [15:14] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [15:14] matey mincer: now youre being as obtuse as CrystalMath: and the only mitigation is youre probably better informed [15:14] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@wt62e9w9ufyta.irc) has joined #techrights [15:15] matey that was in reponse to the line before the funny one [15:15] XRevan86 MinceR: https://youtu.be/XkEfWsBiQd8 [15:15] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XkEfWsBiQd8 [15:15] TR Bot yewtu.be | . 19. - , , - Invidious [15:15] matey matey: doesn't matter what vladolf or Cheeto Hitler or winnie the pooh or orban say, <- this is the funny one [15:15] TR News 5 Best Horror Games for Linux to Enjoy the Virtual World of Terror https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-horror-games-for-linux/ [15:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntupit.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-horror-games-for-linux/ [15:15] TR Bot 5 Best Horror Games for Linux to Enjoy the Virtual World of Terror [15:15] CrystalMath also the people who were burned in odessa were not all militants, that's nonsense, there were women and children there [15:16] XRevan86 MinceR: I'm trying to find this information in English now. [15:16] matey matey: seems like it's about worshipping everything that is evil and authoritarian <- this is obtuse (and also funny) [15:17] TR News "What does the future of gaming look like? Launchers galore, Linux" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MRRszUapcEo [15:17] TR Bot PC Gaming is a Mess - Invidious [15:17] matey what i see in crystalmaths logic, over and over [15:17] activelow i don't know yet exactly why shortly after Olympic games the intervention was started, according to reports Putin intended to do it before Olympic games in China, yet what asked to wait by China [15:17] CrystalMath XRevan86: that's insane and insulting propaganda; russia firing a ukrainian cluster bomb at their own people in their own city [15:17] TR News "Valve has again upgraded the Steam Deck Client software with new features, performance improvements and bug fixes. Plus, check out some of our recent videos." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-client-update-brings-more-improvements-see-more-of-our-videos [15:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-client-update-brings-more-improvements-see-more-of-our-videos [15:17] TR Bot Deck Client update brings more improvements, see more of our videos | GamingOnLinux [15:17] matey is treating some things as absolutes and others as relative [15:17] XRevan86 CrystalMath: https://nitter.eu/CITeam_en/status/1500475853490343936 [15:17] TR Bot CIT (en) (@CITeam_en): "Russia is now using older Tochka-U missile launchers against Ukraine, as seen in Desnyanka, 40 km from the border with Belarus. Videos and photos show a tell-tale 9M79M booster familiar from Syria and Karabakh It typically remains intact when a cluster warhead is used." | nitter [15:18] XRevan86 And this is specially for you. [15:18] matey and theres simply no rhyme or reason which gets treated as which-- its mix and match [15:18] MinceR "What does the future of gaming look like?" -- rootkits, DRM, locked down appliances marketed as "computers" [15:18] activelow anyway, before the olympic games already, RT satellite TV broadcasting in EU was forbidden, by EU... remember this? [15:18] matey this you NEVER EVER DO but THIS is ok because extenuating circumstances, etc [15:18] matey which is which? flip a coin [15:19] CrystalMath XRevan86: the thing you sent is 100% disinformation [15:19] matey so im trying to follow all of it, but this is the inconsistency that makes it comical [15:19] activelow the conflict wasn't settled since 2014, and suddenly Putin/Russia seemed to hurry (close to approaching the Northstream2 put into operation) [15:19] matey and im only trying to understand it out of fairness [15:20] MinceR allegedly putler is ill and wanted to do something big before dying [15:20] MinceR i guess he managed it after all [15:20] MinceR russia will probably not survive this war [15:20] TR News "While there is the popular OpenRCT2 for an open-source re-implementation of RollerCoaster Tycoon 2, it does rely on the original data files, and so the FreeRCT project aims to be a completely free and open source inspired game." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/freerct-sees-a-first-release-trying-to-capture-the-feel-of-rollercoaster-tycoon [15:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/freerct-sees-a-first-release-trying-to-capture-the-feel-of-rollercoaster-tycoon [15:20] TR Bot sees a first release trying to capture the feel of RollerCoaster Tycoon | GamingOnLinux [15:20] MinceR at the very least, he's getting more countries near russia to join the nato [15:20] matey MinceR: hitler and churchill banked on similar odds [15:20] matey everyone was wrong [15:21] matey im not saying russian will win either [15:21] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162837 [15:21] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [15:21] matey but dont underestimate them [15:21] XRevan86 CrystalMath: mkay [15:21] MinceR i didn't [15:21] activelow it was Ukraine/Poland/USA-minions who seeked to subvert the northstream project with every opportunity, harming both EU/Germany *and* Russia [15:21] MinceR so far they've been fighting a war that was supposed to last 1..3 days for 3 months [15:22] MinceR and pretty much everyone hates them now [15:22] XRevan86 Um, pretty sure I'm in this hell for one month. [15:22] XRevan86 Not three months. [15:22] matey nobody liked iraq either, and its still there [15:22] CrystalMath MinceR: NATO was also set to defeat yugoslavia in 3 days [15:22] CrystalMath nope, took 78 [15:23] CrystalMath and don't forget, NATO was targetting civilian infrastructure all the time [15:23] activelow 11billion wasted with some pipeline project and energy security at stake, this was too much for germany too, besides Russia [15:23] CrystalMath struck city centers, bridges, water supplies to hospitals [15:23] TR News "Between 2022-03-15 and 2022-03-22 there were 15 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 238 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 6.3 % of total released titles." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-with-native-linux-clients-2022-03-22-edition/ [15:23] TR Bot New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-03-22 Edition - Boiling Steam [15:23] CrystalMath hospitals themselves... [15:23] MinceR let me guess, nuclear power plants are not "civilian infrastructure" [15:23] TR News Ways To Use Linux To Become Better In College Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162838 [15:23] TR Bot Ways To Use Linux To Become Better In College | Tux Machines [15:23] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Even if ye ignore that, DPR does use Tochka-U's. [15:23] CrystalMath XRevan86: and they shot at themselves? [15:23] MinceR the theater children were hiding in was also "military infrastructure" [15:24] activelow hidden weapons stockpiles [15:24] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Is a fsck-up that big of a stretch? [15:24] MinceR "DPR" are terrorussian invaders, it isn't exactly a stretch for them to attack the local population [15:24] CrystalMath XRevan86: considering i know that ukrainians are constantly shelling Gorlovka [15:24] CrystalMath it's more likely that ukrainians took a shot at Donetsk, to punish its RUSSIAN population for not wanting to become ukrainian [15:25] activelow the majority of the population of western-ukraine didn't oppose Russia; since their industry suffered after 1990 and the wealthy Kiev region didn't bother too much about it [15:25] activelow the majority of the population of *eastern-ukraine didn't oppose Russia; since their industry suffered after 1990 and the wealthy Kiev region didn't bother too much about it [15:25] TR News Engrave Condition: Apples Political Censorship Leaves Taiwan, Remains in Hong Kong - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/03/engrave-condition-apples-political-censorship-leaves-taiwan-remains-in-hong-kong/ [15:25] TR Bot Engrave Condition: Apples Political Censorship Leaves Taiwan, Remains in Hong Kong - The Citizen Lab [15:25] MinceR repeat it until it becomes true [15:25] matey ukrainse, for every arsehole move ive heard of them making... still reminds me a little too much of palestine in all this [15:26] CrystalMath XRevan86: i looked through 2010/2011 Donetsk on google street view, i didn't see one word in ukrainian, all the ads, all the signs, everything was 100% russian [15:26] matey either because theyre being painted that way, or they are that way [15:26] XRevan86 CrystalMath: https://ankornews.com/odessa-russian-speaking-yes-but-today-very-ukrainian/ [15:26] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://ankornews.com/odessa-russian-speaking-yes-but-today-very-ukrainian/ ) [15:26] CrystalMath XRevan86: odessa is far to the west [15:26] XRevan86 Not what I was looking for, but it will do. [15:27] CrystalMath i looked at Donetsk [15:27] TR News Apple: shithole pretending to be Disneyland. People pay away all of their shit, usually to be treated like shit. [15:27] matey /topic try not to mention the war [15:27] MinceR don't worry, they're being motivated strongly by putler to adopt a ukrainian identity if they haven't done so before :> [15:27] matey i mentioned it once but i think i got away with it [15:27] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye know what's strange? Because Russia is invading through the east and north, a very prominent language that is used to curse the Russian invaders is Russian. [15:28] MinceR matey: same as the policy of terrorussia? :> [15:28] matey mincer: same as the episode of fawlty towers [15:28] XRevan86 MinceR: Indeed. [15:28] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:28] CrystalMath matey: i remember that one [15:29] matey i dont know how people expect this to not be discussed [15:29] TR News Apple != Ethics. If you want a moral alternative to Microsoft, then you're also looking for the opposite of Apple. [15:29] matey whats it got to do with tech-- well... it effects everyone where in one way or another [15:29] matey here [15:29] MinceR especially with putler's allies trying to wage information war on us [15:29] matey right [15:29] CrystalMath XRevan86: out of linguistic curiosity, what word is it? [15:29] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Huh? [15:29] matey so any side channel is used for communication [15:30] MinceR probably not a single word [15:30] CrystalMath XRevan86: oh, oops, i misread [15:31] XRevan86 For regional reasons the people that suffered from the invasion the most are Russian-speaking. [15:31] MinceR also because vladolf doesn't care [15:31] XRevan86 That's implied. [15:31] MinceR and this doesn't even include the people living in russia that were tortured and imprisoned [15:32] MinceR for taking an anti-war stance [15:32] TR News Why should I use Qt to develop? Qt: nothing to do with freedom. I've read the whole thing, very UN-compelling. https://www.qt.io/blog/the-cost-of-reinventing-the-wheel-in-app-development [15:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/the-cost-of-reinventing-the-wheel-in-app-development [15:32] TR Bot Develop Apps Faster with Ready Software Libraries [15:32] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.176.214) has joined #techrights [15:33] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [15:35] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:35] CrystalMath i cannot really continue to presume that you two are just ignorant, i think you know what the new world order agenda is, and you welcome it, but for me it's a fate worse than death [15:36] CrystalMath you two = XRevan86 and MinceR [15:36] XRevan86 I have a bias towards humanity and life, what can I say. [15:37] MinceR i have a bias toward freedom [15:37] MinceR which makes me an enemy to the likes of putler and orban [15:37] CrystalMath MinceR: i wrote the same thing and almost sent it :P [15:37] MinceR automatically [15:37] matey i cannot really continue to presume that you two are just ignorant, i think you know what the new world order agenda is, and you welcome it <- politics > reality [15:37] XRevan86 politics >>>>>>>> reality [15:37] TR News Games: Horror, Valve, and Free Software (OpenRCT2) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162839 [15:37] TR Bot Games: Horror, Valve, and Free Software (OpenRCT2) | Tux Machines [15:38] XRevan86 When a person loses their anchor to reality, they also lose their anchor to sanity. [15:38] CrystalMath MinceR: there's more freedom in hungary than in australia now [15:39] CrystalMath without Putin, there would be no Orban, but without Orban this would not be the case anymore [15:39] XRevan86 I have no freedom, I violate the rules even just by speaking. [15:39] MinceR CrystalMath: you have no idea what's going on in hungary [15:39] matey i dont think CrystalMath is a russian agent, whats funny is that it would be hard to tell the difference [15:39] TR News Snake oil. You cannot do this. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deleting-google-search-data-android/ [15:39] TR Bot Quickly Deleting Google Search Data Coming to Android - Make Tech Easier [15:39] MinceR but i doubt you'd care [15:40] MinceR for example, fideath took over pretty much all the media, but hey, they all regurgitate vladolf's propaganda [15:40] XRevan86 matey: He is not, I know him for long enough to tell. [15:40] matey and all this in the name of freedom [15:40] CrystalMath MinceR: who cares about the media, i'm already used to the media being hijacked [15:40] matey XRevan86: i know [15:40] CrystalMath it's been that way for decades [15:40] matey and really my point rests on him not being [15:40] CrystalMath nobody sane cares about or listens to the media [15:40] MinceR people were harassed by police forces for saying negative things about orban on faecesbook [15:40] CrystalMath except techrights :) [15:41] XRevan86 matey: He is not insane like ctivelow but he firmly believes that freedom lies with the hypocrites. [15:41] CrystalMath to clarify, techrights is an exception to the media being bad [15:41] XRevan86 No matter the scale, can be Andrew Lee, can be Vladimir Putin. [15:41] matey matey: He is not insane like ctivelow but he firmly believes that freedom lies with the hypocrites. <- thats the result, but [15:41] MinceR hungary hasn't had a free or fair election in the last 11 years [15:42] matey i think really that he just holds some things so completely sacred that [15:42] CrystalMath MinceR: democracy ain't that great, the result matters, not whether things are democratic or not IMO [15:42] MinceR i guess the moment putler takes a stance on software, CrystalMath will hate TR as well [15:42] matey it gets "stuck" and theres no talking him out of it [15:42] MinceR CrystalMath: it indeed ain't that great. but it sure beats autocracy in any form. [15:42] matey even when you show him that his own priniciples demand it [15:42] CrystalMath MinceR: not if the autocrat is adamant about you having freedom [15:42] MinceR lol [15:42] matey he was right the first time, because it was sacred then [15:42] MinceR you should look up what autocracy means [15:42] XRevan86 matey: His idea of freedom is perveted. [15:42] CrystalMath again, look at the results [15:43] MinceR i am [15:43] MinceR the results are horrible [15:43] matey its not about admitting he was wrong-- he could do that easily enough [15:43] XRevan86 matey: To him it's more important to have the freedom to die from a virus than freedom of speech, freedom of consciousness, freedom to live. [15:43] MinceR most of the major businesses have been taken over by orban's friends and strawmen [15:43] matey but admitting hes mistaken would be abandoning all thats sacred [15:43] matey and it creates this amazing catch 22 [15:43] MinceR they "regulated" some markets in such a way as to avoid them having to compete with people who know what they're doing [15:43] MinceR universities lost their independence [15:44] CrystalMath XRevan86: there is no "freedom to live" and there never was, life is a complex state that the universe will necessarily force to an end regardless of activity [15:44] matey where you have to be wrong because ITS BETTER TO BE WRONG than DO WRONG [15:44] matey which makes no sense at all, but for a VERY GOOD reason [15:44] MinceR our economy is in ruins [15:44] MinceR but orban's friends are OK because they steal almost all the handouts from the EU [15:44] matey XRevan86 hes wrong for all the RIGHT REASONS, and thats ALL that matters [15:44] TR News Apple synonymous with crimes against humanity (ignore their marketing BS), so this is expected https://citizenlab.ca/2022/03/-/ [15:44] TR Bot : - The Citizen Lab [15:45] matey even if its a farce, its still for the right reasons. even if logic throws up its hands and says "well fuck everyting" [15:45] matey its the PRINCIPLE of the thing [15:45] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "freedom to live" means "murder is bad" [15:45] matey yes hes wrong-- but hes wrong ON PRINCIPLE! [15:46] matey and that makes it right [15:46] CrystalMath XRevan86: oh, hmm, then i misunderstood [15:46] *zedomatic (~zedomatic@k86dad7ibinds.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] CrystalMath XRevan86: so let's say "freedom from interference regarding one's life" [15:46] XRevan86 CrystalMath: What did ye think it means? A law of physics? [15:46] CrystalMath human interference [15:46] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162841 [15:46] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:47] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:47] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "freedom from being forced by other people to die" [15:47] CrystalMath right, then we agree entirely, i think [15:47] CrystalMath (but, not wearing a mask for example, and infecting someone with covid is not murder IMO, nor attempted murder) [15:47] MinceR i think that implies the freedom from being poisoned for having a different opinion [15:48] matey what i like about CrystalMath is hes entirely driven by a firm sense of right and wrong, and he never wavers from it [15:48] CrystalMath (as long as the virus transfer was not deliberate) [15:48] schestowitz-TR [15:47] CrystalMath: "freedom from being forced by other people to die" << XRevan86 we're back to 2020 [15:48] schestowitz-TR when you told him that [15:48] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: oh, we clarified this already? [15:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ktzbuxc7m4sqn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:49] schestowitz-TR UK has become highly infected and we cannot guarantee it can be avoided anymore, though we still try. Thanks, Borisnaro. [15:49] CrystalMath i will explain why i misunderstand things sometimes: i like to read into words what i think the other person is trying to say, and usually it's something bad that i imagine [15:49] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: when it broke out in Europe you said "freedom" [15:49] schestowitz-TR and XRevan86 said he wants the freedom to NOT get this very nasty virus [15:50] schestowitz-TR it's eating away at the health of my colleagues [15:50] schestowitz-TR they get reinfected [15:50] *matey has quit (connection closed) [15:50] *matey (~matey@ftgrpexbhfxyc.irc) has joined #techrights [15:51] CrystalMath correct, and that's why when i read XRevan86's words, i imagined this particular case which is a point of disagreement (IMO people don't have a right to force everyone to live by their rules to avoid a natural virus) [15:52] schestowitz-TR define "natural virus" [15:52] CrystalMath or at a very least, we should demand our own separate space where we can live with all the natural viruses freely [15:52] schestowitz-TR society does not work like this [15:52] schestowitz-TR collectivism [15:52] XRevan86 schestowitz: "define "natural virus"" <- Putin [15:52] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: collectivism is evil, and i oppose it with every fiber of my being [15:53] schestowitz-TR you sound like extreme libertarians who pretend they live on their own in the woods... [15:53] schestowitz-TR ...until they need medicine and stuff [15:53] MinceR well, if humanity stops failing seriously hard, someday we might find another habitable planet [15:53] XRevan86 Good thing that when Putin appeals to collectivism he's just being a hypocrite and a populist. [15:53] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: you have had a Donald Trump for 2 decades [15:53] MinceR and then we can have a planet for the authoritarian nurgleites [15:53] schestowitz-TR the US is at risk of getting its own Putin back [15:54] MinceR unfortunately, we're unlikely to survive that long with so many authoritarians in the human population [15:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: What I don't like about this analogy is that Trump is genuinely stupid. [15:54] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: libertarians just want to minimize collectivism [15:54] schestowitz-TR not THAT stupid [15:55] CrystalMath and yes i consdier myself a libertarian [15:55] CrystalMath *consider [15:55] schestowitz-TR well he thought Russia and Finland are the same country [15:56] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: did you build your own home? [15:56] schestowitz-TR also, are you wearing garments made of materials you collected? [15:56] CrystalMath everything i have was sold to me voluntarily, and i bought it voluntarily, that's what matters [15:56] matey or at a very least, we should demand our own separate space where we can live with all the natural viruses freely <- like a safespace [15:57] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I wish someone would free you from the shackles of owning a toilet. [15:57] MinceR "libertarian", just like "liberal", "capitalism", "socialism" and "communism", is a word that has been stripped of all meaning already [15:57] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye won't believe the amount of natural illnesses that thing protects from. [15:57] matey all words are stripped of meaning if you ignore the meaning [15:57] MinceR matey: more of an unsafespace [15:57] matey matey: more of an unsafespace <- like lieplanet [15:57] XRevan86 The medieval towns that were drowning in sewage, now that was true freedom. [15:58] matey is an unsafespace for rms (or rational arguments) [15:58] XRevan86 CrystalMath should have the freedom to swim to drink water contaminated with feces. [15:58] XRevan86 s/to swim // [15:59] XRevan86 But nooo, we just had to force sewers onto everyone, disgusting. [15:59] CrystalMath they're not forced actually [15:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 15.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.91 [15:59] matey XRevan86: not in my backyard! [15:59] XRevan86 It's not even legal to throw poop out of the window anymore. ● Mar 22 [16:00] CrystalMath XRevan86: there are still places without sewage systems [16:00] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye live in a city with the sewers, ye are forced to live in the world that has sewers. [16:00] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Thank their leaders then, not Putin. [16:00] CrystalMath that has sewers, yes; i mean i don't mind that; i don't have to use them though [16:01] CrystalMath i do use them [16:01] CrystalMath but i'm not forced [16:01] XRevan86 CrystalMath: The sewers eradicated natural bacteria. [16:01] MinceR ooh, now CrystalMath gets all fancy, even using the sewer system [16:01] XRevan86 Ye don't have the freedom to get infected with them anymore. [16:02] CrystalMath tbh the freedom of be infected with a particular thing doesn't exist, it makes no more sense than other freedoms defined as "freedom to X" rather than "freedom from X" [16:02] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Really!? [16:02] matey CrystalMath: The sewers eradicated natural bacteria. <- rewind to a year or two ago, and CrystalMath would have called that murder [16:02] XRevan86 Ye don't flipping say! [16:02] CrystalMath XRevan86: well if i had said it before, i was probably mocking some of your "freedom to X" [16:02] CrystalMath like "freedom to not get infected" - this does not exist either [16:03] CrystalMath you have the freedom to wear a mask you own, but that does not guarantee anything really, the universe can still find a way [16:03] TR News Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162842 [16:03] TR Bot Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:03] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162843 [16:03] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [16:03] CrystalMath ultimately, the universe always finds a way to end every life [16:03] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Why is vaccination bad then? [16:04] MinceR death, uh, finds a way [16:04] kingoffrance that was saturn's moon sickle :) [16:04] kingoffrance waxes and wanes :) [16:04] CrystalMath XRevan86: it's not [16:04] XRevan86 It's not changing the laws of the universe, if that's not obvious. [16:04] CrystalMath XRevan86: rather, it should not be forced [16:04] CrystalMath simply because nothing should ever be forced [16:04] MinceR except, apparently, certain things in ukraine [16:04] matey CrystalMath: Why is vaccination bad then? <- fatalism is a reasonable stance for literally everything EXCEPT human interference wth freedom [16:04] matey which MUST be stopped EVEN if it kills us all [16:04] MinceR and in terrorussia, and in red china, and in north korea [16:04] MinceR a lot of things should be forced, apparently [16:05] TR News EPO Staff Explains Why Its Going on Strike | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-dissent-explained/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-dissent-explained/ [16:05] CrystalMath matey: right, i'm fine with the universe torturing me all it likes, but by golly, other humans will not if i have anything to say about it [16:05] TR Bot EPO Staff Explains Why Its Going on Strike | Techrights [16:05] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:05] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I heard drivers are forced to follow some stupid rules on the road. [16:05] MinceR other humans are parts of the universe [16:05] matey CrystalMath: so literally everything from asteroids to bacteria have more rights than humans [16:05] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Those are public roads, they own their automobiles. Why the heck they are forced to do something? [16:05] matey they can go about their business, humans can pound sand [16:06] TR News Links 22/3/2022: GNU Linux-Libre 5.17 and KeePassXC 2.7 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/keepassxc-2-7/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/keepassxc-2-7/ [16:06] TR Bot Links 22/3/2022: GNU Linux-Libre 5.17 and KeePassXC 2.7 | Techrights [16:06] CrystalMath XRevan86: okay, i mean, it's not their road; if we had private roads we could decentralize road rules i guess; it could happen, or it could not... it should be understandable either way though [16:07] MinceR we could switch from driving on the right to driving on the left and back every kilometer [16:07] MinceR it would be such fun [16:07] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Sucks that there isn't unlimited space for roads. [16:07] matey why should it be understandable? [16:07] matey i shouldnt have other peoples lack of understanding imposed on me, on MY property [16:07] MinceR well, if the human population was _drastically_ reduced, every surviving human could have their own road network [16:07] TR News But Putin gets to keep his palace and impoverish his political opposition. He's every stronger when Russians cannot interact with the outside world, too. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/russia-internet-censorship-cost-economy-putin-ukraine-sanctions-twitter-2022-3 [16:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: businessinsider.co.za | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.co.za/russia-internet-censorship-cost-economy-putin-ukraine-sanctions-twitter-2022-3 [16:07] TR Bot Russia's economy already lost R12.8 billion this year because the government keeps shutting down the internet [16:07] MinceR with their own rules, or lack thereof [16:07] matey if they dont understand that the speed limit is c/x#pi^2 thats their problem [16:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [16:08] CrystalMath matey: public roads aren't just your property, so this is why it can be understood [16:08] TR News Putin turns 70 this year. People his age do not genuinely care about the future of the country in a competitive world. https://www.france24.com/fr/info-en-continu/20220318-isoler-la-russie-en-ligne-des-sanctions-contre-productives [16:08] matey im talking about private roads with decentralised road rules [16:08] TR Bot Isoler la Russie en ligne, des sanctions contre-productives ? [16:08] CrystalMath matey: okay, then each road segment owner would have their own rules [16:08] matey why should we have to dumb the rules down for the benefit of others? [16:09] matey matey: okay, then each road segment owner would have their own rules <- right! [16:09] CrystalMath it would be interesting [16:09] matey because otherwise its not ownership [16:09] matey and anything thats not owned is stolen [16:09] MinceR people are stolen? [16:09] CrystalMath but it's not as important as, you know, more basic personal liberties [16:09] matey mincer: people own themselves [16:09] TR News Comcast also supports mass surveillance https://opensource.org/comcast-why-we-support-the-osi see http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/ and [16:09] TR Bot Comcast: Why we support the OSI | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source... [16:09] TR Bot Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy | Techrights [16:10] MinceR and impose arbitrary rules on themselves to maintain that ownership? [16:10] matey but anything else either belongs to its owner, or the sole other option is its being stolen [16:10] matey literally everything is property [16:10] matey if its not property, its theft [16:10] MinceR most information is not property [16:10] matey information is different because it goes in your head [16:10] matey and your head is YOUR property [16:10] MinceR it goes in many places [16:11] TR News "Java Operator SDK, or JOSDK, is an open source project that aims to simplify the task of creating Kubernetes Operators using Java. The project was started by Container Solutions, and Red Hat is now a major contributor." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/22/write-kubernetes-java-java-operator-sdk-part-2 "Sorry, you need to enable JavaScript to visit this website." [16:11] TR Bot Write Kubernetes in Java with the Java Operator SDK, Part 2 | Red Hat Developer [16:11] matey so no one can tell you what to do with it [16:11] CrystalMath i should mention, i take a bit of a turn from modern libertarianism in that i don't think information can be owned [16:11] CrystalMath so i don't really believe in trademarks or patents at all [16:11] CrystalMath copyrights can only work by an NDA contract [16:11] CrystalMath if something is public, it shouldn't be copyrighted either [16:11] matey whats funny crystalmath [16:12] matey is that every time you make a reasonable exception [16:12] matey you prove why reasonable exceptions should exist [16:12] matey then when anyone else argues for reasonable exceptions [16:12] matey you say NO! thats against all good principles! [16:12] matey reasonable exceptions ARE a good principle [16:12] CrystalMath well no, you see [16:12] matey oh my god! [16:12] MinceR yes? [16:12] matey you are priceless. [16:12] CrystalMath copyright, patents, and trademarks were justified as libertarianism later on [16:13] CrystalMath the raw principle does not support it, in my opinion [16:13] MinceR that's not libertarianism [16:13] MinceR that's corporatism being sold as "libertarian" [16:13] kingoffrance eh, its like the money. property went abstract at some point [16:13] CrystalMath matey: like if you look at the inventor of anarcho-capitalism, Rothbard, he did not believe in trademarks or patents, and he also said copyright can only work by contracts that prevent leaking entirely [16:14] matey i wouldnt miss copyright at all if it disappeared forever [16:14] matey its about as useful as a buggy whip to an astronaut [16:14] CrystalMath matey: if you look at the raw core of the idea, well, the raw core is non-violence [16:14] MinceR it's very useful to the likes of MICROS~1, though [16:14] CrystalMath matey: what is a patent? you build something yourself, and you sell it, and then someone beats you up because someone already invented that before but not TOO long before [16:14] matey CrystalMath: explain the nap to a former libertarian, if you will [16:15] matey its pretty complicated, i might have missed something [16:15] MinceR https://everything2.com/title/NON-VIOLENCE%2521+NON-VIOLENCE%2521+NON-VIOLENCE%2521+Non-violence+makes+you+strong%2521+Strength+crushes+enemies%2521+NON-VIOLENCE%2521 [16:15] TR Bot NON-VIOLENCE! NON-VIOLENCE! Non-violence makes you strong! Strength crushes enemies! NON-VIOLENCE! - Everything2.com [16:15] matey great [16:15] *MinceR takes a nap [16:15] CrystalMath matey: this isn't an exception... it's just basic non-violence to say that patents are unfair [16:15] CrystalMath you can't justify mandatory vaccines in any way [16:16] CrystalMath it's impossible, because it's pure violence [16:16] matey you can't justify mandatory vaccines in any way <- according to some rule that must justify itself too [16:16] matey its pure violence to save lives. [16:16] matey its non-violence to let them die [16:16] MinceR so, how have you justified BCG and DTP? [16:17] matey CrystalMath: so if youre lying unconscious, taking you to the hospital is kidnapping [16:17] CrystalMath matey: maybe, that's why there are DNR forms i guess [16:17] matey lets say theres no dnr form [16:17] CrystalMath MinceR: i think those diseases are nasty [16:18] MinceR nastiness overrides your principles? [16:18] CrystalMath MinceR: well it shouldn't be forced, but when i took it it wasn't [16:18] CrystalMath i know people who did not, and still have not [16:18] MinceR uh huh [16:19] CrystalMath maybe it was in the law but it was not enforced, people refused all the time and there were no consequences, and there still aren't for those people as far as i can see [16:20] CrystalMath and, i think maybe the temptation to reject something you would otherwise take just because it's forced is, well, not smart :P [16:20] MinceR what happened to the freedom to coexist with _nasty_ pathogens? [16:21] CrystalMath that freedom exists, as long as nasty pathogens exist [16:21] CrystalMath but you can't stop others from getting vaccinated if they want to [16:21] TR News ICBM to suits: "it is a paradigm shift in how you do business." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/digital-transformation-5-layers-build [16:21] TR Bot Digital transformation: 5 layers to build on | The Enterprisers Project [16:21] MinceR and you can't stop others from infecting you if they want to? [16:22] matey crystalmath: whats the libertarian position on a factory that makes the air in a town unsuitable for human life? [16:22] matey what recourse do the residents have other than moving? [16:22] CrystalMath matey: you should be able to sue, i guess? [16:22] TR News "How do we as in, the developers and package maintainers who are working on Fedora Linux make sure people actually know about all the cool stuff were doing?" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/collecting-ideas-for-feature-spotlight-articles/ [16:22] matey interesting [16:22] TR Bot Collecting ideas for "Feature Spotlight" articles Fedora Community Blog [16:22] CrystalMath MinceR: you should be able to sue them if they infect you with something on purpose, if you can prove it was deliberate [16:22] matey but if its pathogens and not pollutants... no recourse? [16:22] MinceR what if you die from it before you can sue them? [16:22] matey or can we sue you for spreading pathogens? [16:23] CrystalMath matey: umm, creating a biolab and producing harmful pathogens is quite monstrous [16:23] matey what if youre a walking biolab? [16:23] MinceR also, what sort of punishment will dissuade nurgleites from deliberately infecting people? [16:23] matey hypothetically speaking [16:23] CrystalMath matey: you cannot be a walking biolab with current technology [16:23] matey seems like you could be for many many centuries already [16:23] MinceR is being deliberately host to a pathogen and letting it mutate in you to become more harmful also monstrous? [16:24] matey MinceR: of course not, thats just life! [16:24] CrystalMath matey: a virus can infect you, this is fair since no human did it on purpose [16:24] MinceR i guess human extinction is also just life [16:24] CrystalMath a virus can mutate, this is also fair [16:24] MinceR as is all life being terminated on earth by the sun [16:24] CrystalMath MinceR: exactly, all fair [16:24] MinceR ok [16:25] MinceR maybe humans can just hurry up and die out already? [16:25] CrystalMath human extinction is also expected to occur, since all species go extinct [16:25] matey /me loves debating ethics with vizzini from the princess bride [16:25] TR News GNU Linux-libre 5.17-gnu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162831#comment-33152 [16:25] TR Bot GNU Linux-Libre 5.17 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs | Tux Machines [16:26] CrystalMath that's just like saying, "everyone on this channel will die some day" [16:26] CrystalMath it's a fact [16:26] MinceR it is very likely, but not a fact [16:26] CrystalMath it is actually a fact [16:26] MinceR it is not [16:26] MinceR if this reality is in fact a simulation, it could be suspended without anyone in it dying [16:26] CrystalMath there is perhaps a very slim chance, insignificant almost, that some people here will live for billions of years [16:27] CrystalMath but not forever, forever does not exist [16:27] matey this is new [16:27] MinceR if humanity could overcome its own demons, humans could also transcend and become immortal [16:27] matey so when does the universe cease to exist then? [16:28] CrystalMath matey: i forgot the exact estimates, there's also still two theories [16:28] TR News Bluestar 5.16.15 is released https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ [16:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: sourceforge.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ [16:28] TR Bot download | SourceForge.net [16:28] MinceR i thought there were many theories [16:28] MinceR and if you find a way to move from a dying universe to a new one (possibly one you create yourself), the question becomes a lot more complicated [16:28] CrystalMath matey: we're not sure what happens first, and also there's the whole thing with quantum vacuum decay possibly wiping out random parts of the universe with no warning [16:29] CrystalMath at some point, one of these will *definitely* get everyone here, no matter how long it takes [16:29] TR News ICBM now promotes buzzwords like "digital transformation (DX)" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/automation-digital-transformation-3-ways-they-go-together when Intel attacked software freedom it used another "DX" http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [16:29] TR Bot Automation and digital transformation: 3 ways they go together | The Enterprisers Project [16:29] TR Bot Intel leaks - Techrights [16:29] matey CrystalMath: how does the aether fit into this? [16:29] CrystalMath but most likely, 99.99...9999% likely, it will just be a normal biological death for everyone here [16:29] CrystalMath what aether? [16:29] matey the aether that scientists were confident existed at one point [16:30] CrystalMath yeah, that was bullcrap [16:30] kingoffrance its ethernet now [16:30] kingoffrance :) [16:30] CrystalMath like we were certain that there's some way the universe could restart [16:30] CrystalMath but there is not [16:30] TR News This can be leveraged by Russia to spy on dissidents https://www.wired.co.uk/article/whatsapp-russia-meta-ban [16:30] TR Bot Why WhatsApp Survived Russias Social Media Purge | WIRED UK [16:30] matey but this is not? [16:31] matey because we definitely got it right this time? [16:31] CrystalMath matey: i don't think so [16:31] MinceR there's also ether [16:31] CrystalMath it's not that we got it right [16:31] TR News "Access Now, outraged by todays announcement that the Myanmar Investment Commission has approved the sale of Telenor Myanmar, is calling for international actors to implement sanctions and stop the companys irresponsible disposal of its Myanmar operations to a company" https://www.accessnow.org/update-internet-access-censorship-myanmar/ [16:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/update-internet-access-censorship-myanmar/ [16:31] TR Bot Update: internet access, censorship, and the Myanmar coup - Access Now [16:31] CrystalMath matey: but that this is something that is the default [16:31] matey oh well [16:31] matey if its the default... [16:32] CrystalMath there was a theory by which the universe could continue indefinitely but it has been disproven [16:32] matey its cool that now we know the factory settings of the universe [16:32] CrystalMath well no, it's just that, the fate of the universe is kind of sealed, pretty much [16:32] TR News Wensheng XIE: "We thank Wind for her/his commitment for contributing to GNU Chinese Translation." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10142 [16:32] TR Bot GNU Chinese Translators Team - News: Welcome our new member - wind [Savannah] [16:32] matey so basically, the universe doesnt exist by default [16:32] matey but it does by fluke [16:32] CrystalMath yes [16:32] CrystalMath just like life [16:32] matey but that fluke can happen only once [16:33] CrystalMath well no [16:33] CrystalMath you see the fluke can happen again [16:33] XRevan86 "but that fluke can happen only once" <- [citation needed] [16:33] matey its not my argument, XRevan86 [16:33] CrystalMath not my argument either [16:33] matey okay [16:33] matey but when you said "disproven" [16:33] matey and that it had happened [16:33] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:33] CrystalMath yeah, this universe will not survive indefinitely [16:33] matey but it was disproven that it could happen again [16:33] CrystalMath but a new one can happen [16:34] matey this universe will not survive indefinitely <- youre pretty sure? [16:34] CrystalMath pretty sure [16:34] matey as long as youre pretty sure [16:34] CrystalMath not even Penrose has hopes that we could survive indefinitely [16:34] matey mincer does [16:35] CrystalMath and like i said, saying that everyone here will die a normal biological death is an astoundingly great bet [16:35] matey even though he hopes we dont, he has hopes we could :) [16:35] TR News Steven Vaughan-Nichols now helps Microsoft by spinning Microsoft shipping malware as an "open source" issue https://www.zdnet.com/article/corrupted-open-source-software-enters-the-russian-battlefield/ [16:35] TR Bot open-source software enters the Russian battlefield | ZDNet [16:35] matey oh biological death seems very likely yes [16:35] matey but theres a wee difference between biological death and oops, universe doesnt exist [16:36] matey not that it would make any PRACTICAL difference [16:36] matey i mean, it would be the same to us [16:36] CrystalMath it's actually extremely unlikely that we will be suddenly instantly wiped out by a [16:36] matey you have to be pretty sentimental to care if theres a universe after every being in the universe is dead [16:36] CrystalMath (sentence stopped on purpose for comedic effect ;P) [16:37] CrystalMath but i meant to add "quantum vacuum decay event" [16:37] matey but forever is such a long time [16:38] CrystalMath the universe, as it is, is hostile to ordered things like life and computers [16:38] TR News "most of my activity around Debian has come to a complete halt (Send your thanks to da-manager@debian.org!). Since I still have a few computers running Debian, I keep maintaining a few things which I heavily rely on, in particular KDE/Plasma and RSSguard." https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/03/packages-for-debian-kde-plasma-rssguard-et-al/ [16:38] TR Bot Packages for Debian: KDE/Plasma, RSSguard, et al | There and back again [16:38] matey so is microsoft [16:38] CrystalMath that's why computers always fail, and lives always end [16:38] CrystalMath and software always crashes [16:40] TR News "This is the 99th issue of syslog-ng Insider, a monthly newsletter that brings you syslog-ng-related news." https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/the-syslog-ng-insider-2022-03-syslog-ng-4-mqtt-source-zinc-elastic-cloud-3-36 https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/the-system-source-of-syslog-ng-now-also-works-on-macos [16:40] MinceR well, presumably if we do manage to overcome our issues, it might actually be worth surviving indefinitely [16:40] TR Bot syslog-ng insider 2022-03: syslog-ng 4; MQTT source; Zinc; Elastic Cloud; 3.36; - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community [16:40] TR Bot system() source of syslog-ng now also works on MacOS - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community [16:40] TR News The 5 Best Open-Source Internet Radio Apps for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162844 [16:40] TR Bot The 5 Best Open-Source Internet Radio Apps for Linux | Tux Machines [16:40] MinceR if we don't, it's unlikely that we can protect ourselves from the threats of the universe anyway, or even from ourselves [16:41] matey russians have replaced mincer with a facsimile [16:41] matey but they dont fool me, this one is too optimistic [16:41] MinceR prayer doesn't work against asteroids [16:41] MinceR prayer doesn't stop the lifecycle of the Sun [16:41] MinceR and neither does totalitarianism [16:42] matey mincer: so its win-win basically [16:42] TR News Heres why Putin wont use nukes in Ukraine Pass it on. | I, Cringely https://www.cringely.com/2022/03/21/heres-why-putin-wont-use-nukes-in-ukraine-pass-it-on/ [16:42] TR Bot why Putin wont use nukes in Ukraine Pass it on. | I, Cringely [16:42] MinceR i guess so [16:43] TR News "For many years weve had this outstanding idea to add a new API to libcurl that would offer applications easy access to HTTP response headers." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/22/a-headers-api-for-libcurl/ [16:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: haxx.se | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/22/a-headers-api-for-libcurl/ [16:43] TR Bot headers API for libcurl | daniel.haxx.se [16:44] CrystalMath MinceR: i see myself as on entropy's side, tbh [16:44] CrystalMath i welcome my eventual end [16:44] XRevan86 https://zona.media/news/2022/03/22/nev well crap [16:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: zona.media | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://zona.media/news/2022/03/22/nev [16:44] TR Bot [16:44] XRevan86 Nevzorov caught it. [16:44] MinceR caught what? [16:45] XRevan86 MinceR: A criminal case for spreading "fakes". [16:45] XRevan86 for sharing footage from Ukraine [16:45] *matey has quit (connection closed) [16:45] MinceR ic [16:45] TR News Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162666#comment-33153 [16:45] TR Bot LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) 5 Elsie Is Now Available for Download | Tux Machines [16:46] TR News "The Web and design team at Canonical run two-week iterations building and maintaining all of the Canonical websites and product web interfaces. Here are some of the highlights of our completed work from this iteration." https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-25-february-2022 [16:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-25-february-2022 [16:46] TR Bot and Web team summary 25 February 2022 | Ubuntu [16:49] *matey (~matey@pzeavskfbwhvk.irc) has joined #techrights [16:49] XRevan86 MinceR: Ukraine is fake news. [16:50] XRevan86 There is no war, every picture is fake. [16:50] schestowitz-TR "peacekeeping" [16:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:50] activelow XRevan86: i feel like joining one of the protests, and swinging a flag "No weapons of mass destruction in Ukraine" [16:51] schestowitz-TR it's a good thing Russia got there in time [16:51] schestowitz-TR For the "peacekeeping" [16:51] TR News IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162845 [16:51] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:51] XRevan86 activelow: Sounds good. Just in case: Russian weapons of mass destruction? [16:51] matey youve got to spend peace to keep peace [16:51] matey you cant have your peace and eat it too [16:51] matey peace of cake [16:51] schestowitz-TR peace of cake [16:51] schestowitz-TR oh [16:51] XRevan86 matey: "Z !" [16:52] matey ugh [16:52] schestowitz-TR same joke [16:52] schestowitz-TR same time [16:52] XRevan86 War is Peace. [16:52] matey war <3 peace [16:52] matey freedom <3 slavery [16:52] activelow XRevan86: officially Ukraine and the comedian from Kiev haven't got any; yet Selensky argued the Budapest Memorandum was void. [16:52] matey microsoft <3 linux [16:52] schestowitz-TR microsoft <3 microsoft [16:52] XRevan86 The best thing is that this is not a hyperbole enough. [16:52] XRevan86 s/enough/anymore/ [16:52] schestowitz-TR bill loves Lolita [16:53] TR News Xonsh Shell Combines the Best of Bash Shell and Python in Linux Terminal Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162846 [16:53] TR Bot Xonsh Shell Combines the Best of Bash Shell and Python in Linux Terminal | Tux Machines [16:53] XRevan86 I shouldn't let myself be distracted and let muscle memory finish my sentences. [16:53] matey The best thing is that this is not a hyperbole enough. <- we should call pudding the minister of truth [16:53] matey and the minister of peace [16:53] psydruid Lolita <3 Nabokov [16:55] XRevan86 https://okrug.tv/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/b67ea222357c69b97cef466a37aee0ba4e2a7dfe-1536x1023.jpg [16:55] XRevan86 Just so people here don't think I'm exaggerating. [16:55] TR News Microsoft outsourcing https://blog.tomecek.net/post/prometheus-counters-dont-behave/ [16:55] TR Bot Prometheus counters don't behave Blog | Tom Tomeek [16:55] MinceR russian alphabet reform! [16:55] TR News New Linux kernel has improved random-number generation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162847 [16:55] TR Bot New Linux kernel has improved random-number generation | Tux Machines [16:56] XRevan86 "Z ! Z ! Z !" ("For peace! For Russia! For the president!" with all 's replaced with a Latin "Z"). [16:56] MinceR should have been "Z z" [16:57] XRevan86 MinceR: . [16:57] psydruid Mir me dolazi na obzir [16:57] TR News "These packages are basically the .EXE of Debian-based Linux distributions" Git lib ted - This is nonsense and false https://linuxstoney.com/in-linux-they-are-basic-but-do-you-know-what-deb-files-are/ [16:57] MinceR my font renderer just had an aneurysm :> [16:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/in-linux-they-are-basic-but-do-you-know-what-deb-files-are/ [16:57] TR Bot Linux, they are basic, but do you know what DEB files are? - LinuxStoney [16:57] matey why a latin z? [16:58] XRevan86 matey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_(military_symbol) [16:58] TR Bot Z (military symbol) - Wikipedia [16:58] matey good lord. [16:58] MinceR i guess z is easier to distinguish v than from from [16:58] MinceR also easier to write [16:58] MinceR and so "Z" is becoming a nazi symbol [16:59] MinceR s/sh /sh from / [16:59] matey well if you take 2 z's [16:59] matey and rotate one 90 degrees [16:59] MinceR yeah, they could go further [16:59] matey then put it over the other one... [16:59] MinceR " !" etc. [16:59] TR News EasyOS: "Forum member 'proebler' reported that when the geany text editor extra-plugins package is installed (via the package manager), the spell-checking plugin does not work." [16:59] psydruid CrystalMath, z z ● Mar 22 [17:00] MinceR oops, wrong direction [17:00] CrystalMath psydruid: heh, that sudden latin z :P [17:00] MinceR " !" etc. [17:00] matey The best thing is that this is not a hyperbole enough. #techrights : 03/22/22 16:53 I shouldn't let myself be distracted and let muscle memory finish my sentences. <- i often type the word next to the one i meant to type [17:00] CrystalMath but if this is meant to be serbian, then it should be "u obzir", no? [17:00] psydruid oh, right [17:00] psydruid I forgot the exact expression [17:01] TR News "Notea is an open-source web-based note-taking app for creative people." https://medevel.com/notea-os-note-taking-app/ needs to delete Microsoft Github [17:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/notea-os-note-taking-app/ [17:01] TR Bot Notea is an open-source clutter-free note-taking app for productive people [17:01] psydruid I haven't done any vocabulary learning recently [17:01] *matey has quit (connection closed) [17:01] CrystalMath XRevan86: did Z have any meanings before this? [17:01] TR News This one too needs to delete Microsoft Github https://medevel.com/planka-os-project-management/ [17:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/planka-os-project-management/ [17:01] TR Bot Planka is a Libre Kanban-based project manager for teams [17:02] XRevan86 CrystalMath: no [17:02] psydruid z z [17:02] XRevan86 "" <- oh, an oi? Just like in Ukrainian, interesting. [17:02] schestowitz-TR eucrasian [17:02] XRevan86 psydruid: Does it happen in a stressed position always? [17:03] CrystalMath XRevan86: yeah, serbian looks a bit like ukrainian sometimes [17:03] CrystalMath also with verbs in the infinitive ending in -ti [17:03] XRevan86 I've noticed that in Ukrainian that oi is not always stressed, but when it's not the word has a different stress in Russian, like "". [17:03] XRevan86 CrystalMath: -ti is pan-Slavic. [17:03] psydruid XRevan86, CrystalMath can tell you, I'm just a guest in his language and country (sometimes) [17:04] XRevan86 In Russian it is reduced to -t' [17:05] XRevan86 In Ukrainian it's broadened to -ty (and common dialectal -t' is also present) [17:06] schestowitz-TR I read that as bombarded [17:06] activelow is this the root of Ukraine: Ukrach (to steel)? [17:07] XRevan86 activelow: no, and ye also misspelt "steal". [17:07] TR News "The company only lists Windows 10 and Windows 11 operating systems for iBOX 1200 embedded BOX PCs, so its unclear" why CNX even covers this! https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/22/asrock-fanless-ibox-1200-series-alder-lake-p-mini-pcs/ http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/ [17:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/22/asrock-fanless-ibox-1200-series-alder-lake-p-mini-pcs/ [17:07] TR Bot ASRock introduces fanless iBOX 1200 Series Alder Lake-U mini PCs - CNX Software [17:07] TR Bot The C in CNX Software is Not Community | Techrights [17:07] TR News Quadric devkit features q16 hybrid AI, DSP, computer vision accelerator Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162848 [17:07] TR Bot Quadric devkit features q16 hybrid AI, DSP, computer vision accelerator | Tux Machines [17:08] psydruid that's a bombshell [17:08] CrystalMath XRevan86: it's sometimes reduced to -t' in croatian, also dialectal [17:08] TR News First world problems https://cubiclenate.com/2022/03/21/wireless-network-bridge-solution/ [17:08] TR Bot Network Bridge Solution CubicleNate's Techpad [17:09] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@ftgrpexbhfxyc.irc) has joined #techrights [17:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: In English the concept of slendering/broadening (i.e. palatalisation/velarisation) is not developed, so good luck understanding what I meant :) [17:09] TR News Pollutes the planet all the same https://dwaves.de/2022/03/22/human-space-travel-to-moon-and-mars-one-more-step-for-mankind-reusable-renewable-rockets-are-the-way-to-the-space-future/ [17:09] TR Bot Human Space Travel to Moon and Mars one more step for mankind Reusable Renewable Rockets are the way to the Space future | dwaves.de [17:09] psydruid as predicted the malicious x86 computer industry will try anything to stay relevant in the face of competition [17:10] XRevan86 > The palatalized/velarized contrast is known by other names, especially in language pedagogy: in Irish and Scottish Gaelic language teaching, the terms slender (for palatalized) and broad (for velarized) are often used. [17:10] XRevan86 > palatalized ("soft" or iotated) and plain ("hard") Slavic consonants. [17:10] XRevan86 There is different terminology to refer to the same concept. [17:11] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "it's sometimes reduced to -t' in croatian, also dialectal" <- The difference is not as noticeable as in Ukrainian. [17:11] psydruid also those AMD Milan-X parts with huge caches that will only benefit a few workloads to a limited extent seem like a waste of transistors [17:12] psydruid but I take it they will be really expensive to acquire and run [17:12] XRevan86 Because velarised -ty and (shortened) palatalised -t' are on opposite sides from original -ti [17:12] XRevan86 I.e. these are diverging developments. [17:13] XRevan86 But not too diverging, Ukrainian can do both. [17:14] XRevan86 Ukrainian in comparison to many other Slavic languages is very velarised. [17:14] TR News This morning a bunch of documents were circulated to explain in a more concise fashion abuses that EPO staff had been subjected to http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/epo-dissent-explained/ [17:14] TR Bot EPO Staff Explains Why Its Going on Strike | Techrights [17:16] XRevan86 psydruid: Do ye know of other Slavic languages that shift from slender consonants like t' to a velar "t" rather than go full circle and end up with complete iotation like "ts", "ch" or "sh"? [17:16] XRevan86 (ye know what I'm talking about?) [17:16] psydruid XRevan86, what is velar? [17:17] psydruid I think Bulgarian is close to Serbian in terms of sounds, but I haven't actually studied it [17:18] XRevan86 psydroid: [17:19] *matey (~matey@qcd7yjvguja82.irc) has joined #techrights [17:21] psydruid I think I understand what you mean [17:21] psydruid doesn't Polish have that? [17:22] psydruid gwny <-> glavni [17:23] XRevan86 psydruid: No, I mean like "robiti" "robyty" [17:24] psydruid I only speak bits and pieces of 4 Slavic languages [17:24] XRevan86 In Polish that would be "robi" ("robich") [17:24] psydruid y? [17:25] psydruid by [17:26] TR News "The Open Source Initiative has announced the results of its 2022 board election." https://lwn.net/Articles/888863/ http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/open-source-initiative-goodbyes/ [17:26] TR Bot Open Source Initiative elects a new board [LWN.net] [17:26] TR Bot [Meme] Goodbye to the OSIs Microsoft Treasure(r) | Techrights [17:26] XRevan86 psydruid: "" is like a second stage palatalisation, that's what I meant by complete iotation. [17:26] XRevan86 In English that manifests in words like "action'. [17:26] TR News Criminals from Microsoft breached by other criminals https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/03/22/lapsus-okta-microsoft/ [17:26] TR Bot Lapsus$ gang says it has breached Okta and Microsoft - Help Net Security [17:27] psydruid I don't know enough Czech and Slovak to say anything about them [17:27] *zedomatic has quit (connection closed) [17:28] psydruid XRevan86, I meant the preceding vowel [17:28] TR News Stop calling Windows "PC" https://twinfinite.net/2022/03/out-of-the-park-baseball-23-set-to-launch-on-pc-mac-linux-april-22/ Windows is CP http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-and-rick-allen-jones/ [17:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: twinfinite.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://twinfinite.net/2022/03/out-of-the-park-baseball-23-set-to-launch-on-pc-mac-linux-april-22/ [17:28] TR Bot Out of the Park Baseball 23 Set to Launch On PC, Mac, & Linux April 22 [17:28] TR Bot What is Known for a Fact (Not Speculation) About Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and Rick Allen Jones | Techrights [17:29] TR News Google announce 'alpha-quality' Steam on Chrome OS is now actually here | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/google-announce-alpha-quality-steam-on-chrome-os-is-now-actually-here [17:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/google-announce-alpha-quality-steam-on-chrome-os-is-now-actually-here [17:29] TR Bot announce 'alpha-quality' Steam on Chrome OS is now actually here | GamingOnLinux [17:29] XRevan86 psydruid: Ah, well, it's like that in almost all Slavic languages. [17:30] TR News "There are now more than 1600 games working on the Steam Deck (1618 at the time of writing) in two categories as usual..." https://boilingsteam.com/1600-games-on-the-steam-deck-including-dirt-5-as-verified/ [17:30] psydruid and in Serbian iirc [17:30] TR Bot 1600 Games On The Steam Deck, including Dirt 5 as Verified - Boiling Steam [17:30] XRevan86 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Cs-b%C3%BDt.ogg oh wow, many not [17:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Cs-b%C3%BDt.ogg [17:31] *zedomatic (~zedomatic@45fsdpyiizh3q.irc) has joined #techrights [17:31] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/white-house-warns-of-possible-russian-cyberattacks.html [17:31] TR Bot House Warns of Possible Russian Cyberattacks - Schneier on Security [17:32] XRevan86 Wait, it's a homophone with "to beat" ("") in Czech then? [17:32] TR News "Alice: Madness Returns is an absolute classic from Spicy Horse Games and EA. It vanished from Steam for years and it recently arrived back. With Proton on Linux and Steam Deck, it does work quite well too!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/alice-madness-returns-appears-on-steam-again-works-well-on-steam-deck-with-60fps-fix [17:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/alice-madness-returns-appears-on-steam-again-works-well-on-steam-deck-with-60fps-fix [17:32] TR Bot Madness Returns appears on Steam again, works well on Steam Deck with 60FPS fix | GamingOnLinux [17:32] psydruid apparently :) [17:32] TR News Discover Overlay is a Discord chat UI that now works on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/discover-overlay-is-a-discord-chat-ui-that-now-works-on-steam-deck [17:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/discover-overlay-is-a-discord-chat-ui-that-now-works-on-steam-deck [17:32] TR Bot Overlay is a Discord chat UI that now works on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [17:35] TR News The guardian of Bill Gates and his child sex monsters, MIT, is blaming "open source" for MICROSOFT shipping MALWARE https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/21/1047489/activists-are-targeting-russians-with-open-source-protestware [17:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: technologyreview.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/21/1047489/activists-are-targeting-russians-with-open-source-protestware [17:35] TR Bot Activists are targeting Russians with open-source "protestware" | MIT Technology Review [17:35] XRevan86 psydruid: To beat or not to beat? [17:35] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162849 [17:35] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:36] psydruid XRevan86, what is the question? :) [17:38] TR News MIT Technology Review basically blames the victims of Microsoft for what Microsoft is doing [17:38] TR News Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XVIII The Story of NPM http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/microsoft-github-expose-part-xviii-the-story-of-npm/ [17:38] TR Bot Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XVIII The Story of NPM | Techrights [17:39] TR News Microsoft: it's the fault of the user when our systems get breached http://techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/ [17:39] TR Bot GitHub is Microsofts Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonicals Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly Its Ubuntus Fault? | Techrights [17:40] TR News Games: Out of the Park Baseball 23, Steam, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162850 [17:40] TR Bot Games: Out of the Park Baseball 23, Steam, and More | Tux Machines [17:40] activelow AMD Milan-x 768MiB L3 cache... the cortex a53 got 3000x less than that, 256KiB, and surprisingly it's enough for 4cores [17:40] XRevan86 psydruid: Some say a question, others say torture. [17:42] XRevan86 psydruid: Fun fact: the Ukrainian word for question is indeed the same word as the Russian word for torture "", the trick is that the meaning is idiomatic. So it originated like "nagging" I guess. [17:42] TR News AvosLocker is a ransomware group that was identified in 2021, specifically targeting Windows machines https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/22/fbi-and-fincen-release-advisory-avoslocker-ransomware FBI and CISA do not even name Microsoft or Windows, as usual [17:42] TR Bot FBI and FinCEN Release Advisory on AvosLocker Ransomware | CISA [17:43] psydruid AMD Milan-X isn't 1000 times as fast as a processor with Cortex-A53 cores [17:43] XRevan86 So they're not like some strange conflation of sounds. [17:44] XRevan86 Language development, amirite? [17:44] TR News " Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" proprietary software https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-081-01 [17:44] TR Bot Delta Electronics DIAEnergie | CISA [17:45] TR News "MSSQLSERVER" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-238-03 Microsoft [17:45] TR Bot Delta Electronics DIAEnergie (Update B) | CISA [17:45] activelow sad, sun12x22 console font is russophobe... no cyrillic hyroglyphs with it [17:45] psydruid in Hindi we have the verb "puchna" and noun "prana" [17:46] psydruid XRevan86, that is an interesting development, yeah [17:46] TR News Microsoft SQL 'Server' is not a DB. It's malware that can also do some things like a real DB. [17:46] CrystalMath XRevan86: in serbian that means "to ask" [17:47] *psymin (~psymin@joseon-2ft.k30.kbr670.IP) has joined #techrights [17:47] XRevan86 Err, yea, "to ask". [17:47] XRevan86 Don't know why I treated "question" like a verb. Doesn't matter, the word for "question" in Ukrainian is "". [17:48] XRevan86 So a noun formed from a verb. [17:48] CrystalMath close to serbian, "pitanje" [17:48] activelow "to ash"... from "asha"... the truth, the remains from fire (Persian i think) [17:48] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Looks like this is common. [17:48] *psymin has quit (Connection closed) [17:48] TR News Microsoft cannot defend Windows (too many back doors and defects), so the best it can do it pay the media to stay quiet, change the topic, or blame the wrong parties. [17:49] psydruid ! [17:49] XRevan86 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/pytati hm, maybe it's the other way around [17:49] TR Bot Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/pytati - Wiktionary [17:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:50] XRevan86 Looks like I mistook the direction of the development :) [17:51] TR News "Monitoring the resources of your Linux server and watching for negative trends is one way to stay ahead of potential performance issues, and the sar command will help you do exactly that. In this video, Jay goes over the basics of the sar command." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=D5fMGFZoFT8 [17:51] TR Bot Linux Essentials - The sar Command - Invidious [17:51] matey Fun fact: the Ukrainian word for question is indeed the same word as the Russian word for torture "", the trick is that the meaning is idiomatic. So it originated like "nagging" I guess. <- TIL my family is ukranian [17:51] XRevan86 "question nagging torture" <- Actually, question nagging torture [17:52] TR News "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Linux Mint LMDE 5 "Elsie" and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=roKebjvzP6E [17:52] TR Bot Linux Mint LMDE 5 "Elsie" overview | Linux Mint Debian Edition an alternative to Ubuntu - Invidious [17:52] matey english: question -> "interrogation" -> torture [17:52] psydruid lol [17:52] matey interrogation is questioning, it goes either way in terms of context [17:52] activelow satan/shaitan is "scheitern", "Scheiterhaufen", of human sacrifice, burning witches and heretics [17:52] activelow from the inquisition [17:52] XRevan86 matey: Hm, true. [17:53] MinceR fear -> anger -> hate -> suffering [17:53] TR News WSL is an attack on Linux, it's Windows in disguise, and firms should quit using Microsoft's attack on Linux as a pretext for bashing the security of GNU/Linux https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/QUALYS-INC-11612572/news/Qualys-Implications-of-Windows-Subsystem-for-Linux-for-Adversaries-Defenders-Part-1-39829650/ [17:53] TR Bot : Implications of Windows Subsystem for Linux for Adversaries & Defenders (Part 1) | MarketScreener [17:53] psydruid https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/pre%E1%B8%B1- [17:53] TR Bot Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/pre- - Wiktionary [17:53] psydruid https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/pre%E1%B8%B1- [17:53] TR Bot Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/pre- - Wiktionary [17:53] matey windows -> sco unix -> gnu/linux -> bsd [17:54] XRevan86 ""to ash"... from "asha"... the truth, the remains from fire (Persian i think)" <- I was distracted, so I didn't pay attention to this. So I finally read this message, noticed that it's absolute nonsense and only then noticed who wrote it. [17:55] matey larch -> lurch -> lunch [17:55] TR News This isn't the solution, this is the LF acting as a marketing proxy for sponsors https://www.linux.com/audience/enterprise/sboms-supporting-safety-critical-software/ [17:55] TR Bot Supporting Safety Critical Software - Linux.com [17:56] activelow suffering = saufen (to drink, as animals do); hate from haides/hades ... the grasland; angst is the mental state of being afraid; [17:56] XRevan86 activelow: Do ye have like notes with these quips? [17:56] TR News FOSSlife webspam https://www.fosslife.org/sysadmin-jobhub-launched [17:56] TR Bot SysAdmin JobHub Launched [17:57] activelow XRevan86: (old) german language [17:57] matey soften -> saufen -> surfin [17:57] TR News Mostly a decade-old buzzword (I think Gulag made it up ~15 years ago) for sysadmin https://www.fosslife.org/2022-report-highlights-growth-sre-practices [17:57] TR Bot 2022 Report Highlights Growth of SRE Practices [17:58] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1503559619175600131-2048x1129.jpg [17:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1503559619175600131-2048x1129.jpg [17:58] XRevan86 activelow: The Old German word for "ash" is "asko", the Old German word for "ask" is "aiskon". [17:58] XRevan86 These things are almost too easy to look up. [17:59] CrystalMath activelow isn't etymology man [17:59] psydruid I thought it was about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%B9%9Ata [17:59] TR Bot ta - Wikipedia [17:59] CrystalMath maybe he knows more about insects instead :P [17:59] MinceR maybe he should talk more about insects, then ● Mar 22 [18:00] XRevan86 CrystalMath: He is etymology man, but he draws his etymologies from shrooms or something. [18:00] *inky (~inky@46.36.114.138) has joined #techrights [18:00] matey or a hat [18:00] MinceR or nationalist bullshit etymology [18:00] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:00] MinceR like the nuts who decided that hungarian is derived from turkic and/or sumerian [18:01] matey if youre from budapest and in good health, youre a well hungarian [18:01] XRevan86 Maybe it's time to rewatch https://youtu.be/6YlJ24o8qfQ for nostalgia's sake. [18:01] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6YlJ24o8qfQ [18:01] TR Bot yewtu.be | - Invidious [18:02] CrystalMath https://xkcd.com/1012/ [18:02] TR Bot Wrong Superhero [18:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/1012/ [18:02] XRevan86 He knew how to deliver stuff well, he was a popular satiric on the Russian TV. Unfortunately he was also completely nuts. [18:03] XRevan86 ( he being https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Nikolayevich_Zadornov ) [18:03] TR Bot Mikhail Nikolayevich Zadornov - Wikipedia [18:04] XRevan86 > He supported the revisionist fringe theory that the Russian language descends from the Vedas and Etruria, put forward by philosopher Valeriy Chudinov. Since 2006, Zadornov had incorporated Chudinov-style wordplay into his sketches, based on folk etymology. [18:04] CrystalMath MinceR: i noticed some vague similarity with turkish, but very little [18:04] MinceR there are some loan words from turkish [18:04] XRevan86 ", ", that's the level of linguistic analysis. [18:04] MinceR mostly from the time when the ottomans ruled most of hungary [18:04] MinceR XRevan86: lol [18:04] CrystalMath XRevan86: nice :P [18:06] TR News Murena & /e/OS a product roadmap for 2022: towards our V1? - Gal Duval Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162851 [18:06] TR Bot Murena & /e/OS a product roadmap for 2022: towards our V1? - Gal Duval | Tux Machines [18:06] XRevan86 I wonder if I can find him with translations, I'm curious what activelow, a guy who thinks German is everything, would think about a guy who thought that Russian is everything. [18:06] matey he would think the russian was wrong about everything [18:07] AdmFubar https://www.pogowasright.org/this-database-stores-the-dna-of-31000-new-yorkers-is-it-illegal/ [18:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/this-database-stores-the-dna-of-31000-new-yorkers-is-it-illegal/ [18:07] TR Bot This Database Stores the DNA of 31,000 New Yorkers. Is It Illegal? [18:07] MinceR XRevan86: there are guys who believe hungarian is everything [18:07] CrystalMath XRevan86: russian does ultimately descend from proto-indo-european, as does the language of the vedas [18:07] psydruid the thing with started constructively and then I closed the video stream :) [18:07] psydruid https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/bog%D1%8A [18:07] TR Bot Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/bog - Wiktionary [18:07] activelow XRevan86: wrong, i am referring to old Deutsch/Saxon; modern german disgust isn't the language of mine [18:07] matey well that settles it then [18:08] matey thats completely different [18:08] CrystalMath activelow: it is a fact that as you go into the past, all the european languages become closer [18:08] activelow it is; grammatical refinement, vocabulary, pronounciation - modern german and speakers are a persiflage at best [18:08] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/nvidia-grace-server-chip-arm [18:08] TR Bot unveils Grace, an Arm-based server chip - Protocol [18:08] TR News Public Knowledge Urges Senate To Pass Phone Bill To Keep Incarcerated People Connected - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-senate-to-pass-phone-bill-to-keep-incarcerated-people-connected/ [18:08] TR Bot Public Knowledge Urges Senate To Pass Phone Bill To Keep Incarcerated People Connected - Public Knowledge [18:09] TR News Latest Jetson Development Kit Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162852 [18:09] TR Bot Latest Jetson Development Kit | Tux Machines [18:09] TR News Announcing CrossOver 21.2.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162853 [18:09] TR Bot Announcing CrossOver 21.2.0 | Tux Machines [18:10] activelow CrystalMath: don't think so; some particular language roots were best preserved with old Deutsch (not anymore) [18:11] XRevan86 psydroid: "the thing with started constructively and then I closed the video stream :)" <- Ye needed to wait just a little bit longer [18:12] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_include_java/ [18:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_include_java/ [18:12] TR Bot Oracle starts running license audits for Java The Register [18:12] XRevan86 psydroid: 50s "" from "" [18:13] XRevan86 "" he also draws from "". [18:13] matey 25 to 4 [18:13] XRevan86 It's a bloody preposition, and a common one too. [18:13] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "russian does ultimately descend from proto-indo-european, as does the language of the vedas" <- Of course. [18:15] XRevan86 activelow: "wrong, i am referring to old Deutsch/Saxon; modern german disgust isn't the language of mine" <- Surprisingly enough, I was referring to Proto-West Germanic, an ancestor of Old Saxon. [18:16] XRevan86 And of Old High German, which could be what activelow calls "Old Deutsch". [18:17] matey if youre retired and stoned in deutchland, youre an old high german [18:17] psydruid is this Old High German documented somewhere so you can learn it? [18:17] activelow psydruid: not anymore. [18:18] psydruid I wonder why not, if you can still learn Old English and Old Norse [18:18] activelow because, the speakers were eradicated. [18:18] XRevan86 psydroid: https://users.clas.ufl.edu/drjdg/gerdut/pubs/WrightOHGPrimer.pdf check what I found [18:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: ufl.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://users.clas.ufl.edu/drjdg/gerdut/pubs/WrightOHGPrimer.pdf [18:20] XRevan86 psydroid: Unless ye meant the activelow's version of the language, in that case the speakers were eradicated, possibly by extraterrestrials. [18:21] psydruid XRevan86, I meant the version of the language for which you just linked to a textbook [18:21] activelow XRevan86: allright then; where is word "Sieg" (victory) derived from? [18:21] XRevan86 psydruid: Ah, well, obviously, duh. European languages are very well-researched. [18:22] matey on mars they determine innocence or guilt using a salem-like method of dangling the accused over a balcony [18:22] matey hence the term "extra-terrace trials" [18:23] psydruid we have "zege" and "zegevieren" in Dutch [18:23] MinceR lol @ extra-terrace trials [18:23] activelow it is the Ziege (Zieg, the goat); which pre-historic farmers disputed over, and the winner got it, the Zieg (Heidrun, Almathea, etc.) [18:24] activelow in rune script, it's the Sig Rune. [18:24] matey take off every zieg [18:24] XRevan86 activelow: An Old High German word "sigi". [18:24] MinceR move zieg [18:24] XRevan86 Traces back to a P-I-E word for strength, power, holding. [18:25] XRevan86 Has Greek and Sanskrit cognates. [18:26] XRevan86 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%B4%CF%83%CF%87%CF%89#Ancient_Greek like this one [18:26] TR Bot - Wiktionary [18:26] matey kya hindi que spanish kaun hindi quien spanish kitne hindi quantity english [18:27] psydruid and [18:27] matey my mother was a saint! [18:27] XRevan86 and your father smelt of elderberries [18:27] matey 3zw! [18:27] matey /me has to learn real cyrillic someday [18:28] XRevan86 psydruid: oh yea, that's a way more important one [18:28] *matey has quit (connection closed) [18:30] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [18:31] psydruid [18:32] XRevan86 psydruid: goat? [18:32] psydruid that's better with the Polytonic Greek keyboard [18:33] XRevan86 psydruid: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/912/336/58c.png [18:33] XRevan86 "Is this a goat?" [18:33] TR News Links 22/3/2022: CrossOver 21.2 and NVIDIA Developer Kit | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/crossover-21-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/crossover-21-2/ [18:33] TR Bot Links 22/3/2022: CrossOver 21.2 and NVIDIA Developer Kit | Techrights [18:34] TR News Audiocasts and Videos: Elektra Wagenrad, Linux Mint LMDE 5 "Elsie", and Sar Command Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162854 [18:34] TR Bot Audiocasts and Videos: Elektra Wagenrad, Linux Mint LMDE 5 "Elsie", and Sar Command | Tux Machines [18:34] TR News Proprietary Spin and Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162855 [18:34] TR Bot Proprietary Spin and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:34] TR News Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162856 [18:34] TR Bot Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:35] TR News Development Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162857 [18:35] TR Bot Development Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:35] TR News Free Software/Open Source Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162858 [18:35] TR Bot Free Software/Open Source Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:35] psydruid XRevan86, I had Ancient Greek in school, so I just thought I had to write it correctly according to the old rules I learned back then [18:36] XRevan86 psydruid: I was just alluding to the activelow's goat hypothesis. [18:37] XRevan86 Sounds nicer than the cow tit hypothesis. [18:37] psydruid yeah, I like to keep goats far away from me [18:37] psydruid haha [18:37] AdmFubar Come on, seriously? You have to ask??? https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/22/has-microsoft-been-hacked/ [18:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/22/has-microsoft-been-hacked/ [18:37] TR Bot Has Microsoft Been Hacked? - gHacks Tech News [18:40] AdmFubar Update to the above story.... the hacking group that that stole their data is no returning it and paying M$ to keep it!!!! [18:40] TR News LabPlot 2.9 Beta Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162859 [18:40] TR Bot LabPlot 2.9 Beta | Tux Machines [18:44] XRevan86 psydruid: 1:30 Zadornov traces Russian back to "several thousands of years before the construction of the Egyptian pyramids" [18:44] activelow psydruid: ancient greek is lectured in any school i am aware of [18:44] activelow psydruid: ancient greek is _not_ lectured in any school i am aware of [18:44] activelow and the speakers are gone almost entirely [18:44] psydruid active low, it is in gymnasia like the one I attended [18:44] MinceR lol [18:45] activelow archaic language is nuckled at the mothers breast [18:45] activelow that's why, it is mother tongue [18:46] activelow although, my grandmother, now 90years old, was the last remaining speaker i knew [18:46] XRevan86 Of Ancient Greek? [18:46] activelow closer to swedish i would say [18:46] XRevan86 Ancient Greek and Swedish are practically twins [18:47] activelow Trundhol Sun Chariot [18:47] activelow Trundholm Sun Chariot [18:48] AdmFubar yeah they're twins like schwarzenegger and devito.... [18:49] XRevan86 AdmFubar: :) [18:49] AdmFubar :P [18:49] psydruid (< ) (< ) [18:50] psydruid looks more like Serbian and Sanskrit than like Swedish [18:50] psydruid but I have an open mind [18:51] AdmFubar I read that in a fortune cookie once... [18:51] XRevan86 "that's why, it is mother tongue" <- English speakers that have 90-year old mothers can still hear the language of Beowulf when their mothers speak. [18:52] AdmFubar http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=313042 [18:52] TR Bot open-source software enters the Russian battlefield | ZDNet [18:53] psydruid I'm still looking for that elusive universal cow tit goat language [18:55] AdmFubar don't baaaa-ther! [18:55] XRevan86 Their mums are like "aweorpan threax", and they're like "O.K., mum, in a minute!" [18:56] AdmFubar hhhmmm that sounds more bostonian.... [18:56] XRevan86 (I cannot guarantee accuracy) [18:59] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/sourcecode/metas-collision-course-with-history ● Mar 22 [19:00] TR Bot embraced the death of globalization, and its paying off - Protocol [19:00] XRevan86 AdmFubar: Maybe that's what it was like for activelow. [19:03] kingoffrance pretty sure sanctions are "globalization" in action, and not "the death of globalization" [19:03] XRevan86 psydruid: The reptilians erased it from existence. [19:03] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/last-mile-delivery-data-commerce [19:03] TR Bot Here use firefighters and location data for mapping - Protocol [19:04] XRevan86 psydruid: Only activelow is left alive to share the wisdom of the slime. [19:04] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/protocol-fintech/crypto-sanctions-compliance [19:04] TR Bot Elizabeth Warrens latest crypto bill is ringing alarms - Protocol [19:07] XRevan86 activelow: On what language do ye think they speak on the planet Nibiru? [19:08] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04pdRDvith4 [19:08] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=04pdRDvith4 [19:08] TR Bot yewtu.be | Tortoiseshell cat meowing squeaky and her purring friend are so cute - Invidious [19:09] AdmFubar coming soon a new soft drink.. Slurm! https://www.rawstory.com/2657016890/ [19:09] TR Bot Chemists cook up way to remove microplastics using okra - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism [19:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: rawstory.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rawstory.com/2657016890/ [19:13] *zedomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:16] activelow XRevan86: there is very few speakers remaing, yes. [19:17] XRevan86 activelow: Can ye give an example of speech? [19:17] *XRevan86 has popcorn ready. [19:18] activelow XRevan86: no. it is ridiculed as if the speakers were dumbfucks. [19:18] XRevan86 activelow: Don't be shy. [19:19] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@kjquitvzjebrk.irc) has joined #techrights [19:19] activelow a good start is Netherlands, among the Swiss-Germans, and some emmigrees of the Mennonites/Amish/Hutterites [19:19] XRevan86 activelow: "a good start is Netherlands" <- Was your mother from Holland? [19:20] XRevan86 and spoke Dutch as a native tongue? [19:20] activelow XRevan86: no, my mother is from Saxony-Anhalt, her father was the offspring of a Russian WW2 soldier btw. [19:20] activelow and the dialect was common among the relatives of my father [19:21] XRevan86 activelow: Um dude [19:21] XRevan86 activelow: Your mystery Old German is called Low German. [19:21] XRevan86 It's a different dialect group from High German. [19:21] activelow although, the dialect from saxony-anhalt is important too, with some consonant shifts (g -> j) [19:21] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_German#Geographical_extent [19:21] TR Bot Low German - Wikipedia [19:21] activelow it's not a dialect group as such, it is *old* Deutsch [19:23] activelow and the names given to children changed, the names of the generation of my grandparents disappeared completely nowadays, both forname and surnames. [19:23] XRevan86 https://language.mki.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/1102/2017/05/deutsche_dialekte.jpg [19:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: wisc.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://language.mki.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/1102/2017/05/deutsche_dialekte.jpg [19:23] activelow and even if, occasionally, some names re-appear, it is charlatans and fakes often. [19:24] activelow same with the language, which is mocked and immitated sometimes, yet it isn't the original. [19:24] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@szfuavpvhuqj6.irc) has joined #techrights [19:24] activelow XRevan86: and, i am missig the particular humor, which disappeared to. [19:25] activelow too [19:25] XRevan86 activelow: Ye're like those people that think that Bulgarian is the real Old Russian. [19:26] activelow XRevan86: the cyrillic script is attributed to Bulgaria, although i cannot verify this. [19:26] activelow and i suspect, modern Russian/Cyrillic is a newer greek dialect offspring, west-germanic is probably older [19:27] XRevan86 West-Germanic Cyrillic is older than Russian Cyrillic? [19:27] activelow with rune-script being the common ancestry of both Latin and Greek script [19:27] activelow XRevan86: no, i suspect cyrillic script is younger than runes ("latin"/"greek") [19:27] psydruid XRevan86, is there a similar work for Old Low German? [19:28] XRevan86 psydruid: Internet has it all. [19:28] psydruid all-right, I just have to pray to a goat to be able to find it [19:29] activelow Baphomet, yes. [19:29] XRevan86 psydruid: Maybe as "Old Saxon" [19:32] activelow seems common among some frenchmen too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jean_Dodal_Tarot_trump_15.jpg [19:32] TR Bot File:Jean Dodal Tarot trump 15.jpg - Wikipedia [19:33] activelow yet this is only satire, humor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet [19:33] TR Bot Baphomet - Wikipedia [19:33] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [19:38] psydruid "Wi Leahre Plautdietsch: A Beginner's Guide to Mennonite Low German (Dutch, German and English Edition)" [19:38] XRevan86 psydruid: That's good, because I couldn't find it :) [19:40] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/mailbox.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-mailbox#comic ) [19:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/mailbox.png [19:40] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [19:42] TR News United Kingdom: COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Highest Number in a Month, Deaths Highest in 1.5 Months, and More Than Half a Million Infected Per Week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/22/united-kingdom-covid/ [19:42] TR Bot Blog Archive United Kingdom: COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Highest Number in a Month, Deaths Highest in 1.5 Months, and More Than Half a Million Infected Per Week [19:43] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162860 [19:43] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:51] bnchs__ hmmm [19:53] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fsz99s6zbtymn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:53] DaemonFC Well, the doctor visit went better than I had anticipated. [19:54] DaemonFC It seems like half of them should be under malpractice investigation these days. Especially those ones at the Health Department. [19:54] DaemonFC When a patient consistently has high blood pressure that is stage 1 hypertension, you don't tell them "We're absolutely not treating this with medication, go home and eat a DASH diet or enjoy the stroke.". [19:55] DaemonFC But that's basically what the Health Department does. [19:55] bnchs__ DaemonFC, lol [19:55] bnchs__ you have blood pressure [19:55] bnchs__ ofc you're fat go diet retard [19:55] bnchs__ because we don't treat you [19:55] DaemonFC And when you tell them "I hate DASH diets and I tried one for a while and it doesn't work." they just stare blankly. [19:56] MinceR DAESH diet [19:56] DaemonFC Yeah, I'm overweight, oh well. [19:56] bnchs__ wait the diet didn't work [19:56] bnchs__ well [19:56] DaemonFC I told the doctor "I eat what I want, when I want, and however much I want. What can I say? Frankly, I'm surprised it wasn't worse when I got on your scale.". [19:57] DaemonFC Most of my family is overweight. Some make me look like I belong on a Star Trek TV show by comparison. [19:57] bnchs__ lol [19:57] bnchs__ when you step on his scale [19:57] bnchs__ it's gonna turn into paper [19:58] bnchs__ like paperweight [19:58] DaemonFC Well, I'll tell you, my dad's family is all FAT and they live forever. [19:58] DaemonFC My uncle is like 2.5 of me and he's still alive, and almost 70. [19:58] *kingoffrance .oO( systemd so fat ) [19:59] bnchs__ maybe doctor should tell you what you have [19:59] DaemonFC We went over to their house for dinner one night in the 90s. [19:59] DaemonFC That aunt and uncle. [19:59] bnchs__ instead of calling you fat fuck and being surprised you managed to fit through the door [19:59] DaemonFC And they served us these massive fucking enchiladas, and they were GOOD. [19:59] DaemonFC And after we ate, we were full to the point of not being able to eat more, you know.... ● Mar 22 [20:00] bnchs__ heh american dinner [20:01] bnchs__ how do you weigh [20:01] DaemonFC And then it turns out that was the appetizer, and here comes Aunt Liz [20:01] DaemonFC With dinner! [20:01] DaemonFC And then there was fried ice cream. [20:01] DaemonFC Everything in that house was fat. [20:01] DaemonFC The goldfish were carp. [20:02] *techrights_guest|20 (~3ed8d00e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:02] DaemonFC The cats ate until they vomited and then went back and ate more. [20:02] DaemonFC It was like the Roman Empire in there. [20:02] bnchs__ wtf how much do you weigh [20:02] DaemonFC 255 pounds. [20:02] DaemonFC I'm 6' 4". [20:02] bnchs__ yeah thats because the scale overflowed [20:02] bnchs__ it's probably more than that [20:03] bnchs__ 8-bit weigh [20:03] DaemonFC No, those scales are accurate up to 400 pounds or so. [20:03] XRevan86 activelow: I don't know if I should comment on the rune thing, because the runes derived from a precursor of Latin, and so obviously younger than the Greek alphabet. They are absolutely older than Cyrillic so ye got that right. [20:04] bnchs__ nah i'm just joking, because it was a bit of a coincidence that your weight was 255 [20:04] bnchs__ the highest value you can store in 8-bits [20:04] DaemonFC But my dad's family doesn't diet. They eat whatever they want. They're all massive. The only reason none of them that I know of made it past 86 (grandpa) was because he also smoked 3 packs of unfiltered cigarettes per day most of his life. [20:04] DaemonFC And was constantly drunk. [20:05] DaemonFC Going down the neighborhood (in 1955) shouting "Wanda! I want pussy!". [20:05] bnchs__ so you said your uncle was 2.5 of you? [20:05] bnchs__ that means he's more than 500 pounds [20:05] DaemonFC He looks like Ron Jeremy ate Richard Stallman. [20:05] DaemonFC I'm not shitting you. [20:05] bnchs__ dude rms has that sphere belly [20:05] bnchs__ it's literally impossible [20:06] DaemonFC You'd think so. [20:06] bnchs__ to have that kind of belly [20:06] DaemonFC And he's almost a foot shorter than I am. [20:06] activelow XRevan86: archeological findings contradict your position [20:06] DaemonFC So I mean, he's over 500 pounds and a foot shorter than me. [20:06] DaemonFC Most of my dad's family is short. [20:06] DaemonFC Short and fat. [20:07] bnchs__ nobody runs in your family [20:07] bnchs__ i bet they're just mountains of fat [20:07] activelow XRevan86: "Ring of Pietroassa", some historical evidence, which was systematically destroyed by some certain people [20:07] DaemonFC Nobody in my dad's family can run. [20:07] DaemonFC Between the eating and the smoking. [20:07] bnchs__ nah they can run [20:08] bnchs__ if you tease them with food at the end [20:08] DaemonFC They'd have a stroke 5 feet in. [20:08] DaemonFC My grandfather made it to 86, somehow, but it was a bad 86. [20:08] XRevan86 activelow: Ye do realise the Greek alphabet is BCE? [20:08] DaemonFC He had dementia, cancer, heart disease, diabetes. [20:08] DaemonFC It was all self-inflicted. [20:08] XRevan86 activelow: The ring is CE [20:09] bnchs__ lol [20:09] TR News "My employer is going through cutdowns and layoffs at the moment. Swedish labour law is pretty unforgiving when it comes to layoffs; there are strict rules around who you get to let go and the measures you have to take in order to justify it." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-22-being-laid-off-starting-new-chapter.gmi [20:09] bnchs__ well [20:09] activelow XRevan86: yes, and it's mis-labeled [20:09] DaemonFC My grandpa on dad's side could drink the Russians under the table. [20:09] XRevan86 activelow: Is it actually older than the pyramids too? [20:09] bnchs__ you know what they say, live your life to the fullest [20:09] bnchs__ fullest (literally) [20:09] activelow XRevan86: bronce-age [20:10] DaemonFC They'd wait until he passed out at the bar and then steal all the money out of his wallet. [20:10] TR News "Found out yesterday that I have COVID. I'm all quarantined in the master bedroom, and feeling much better now actually. My poor 5 year-old was so scared for me and sad before bed. She is used to snuggling me every night. She was also concerned I would get COVID germs all over her books in here haha." gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/allokdallok.gmi [20:10] DaemonFC He had just cashed his paycheck and they'd help themselves to all of it. [20:10] DaemonFC Had five kids, nothing left to feed them with, and he made good money. [20:10] DaemonFC It was a UNION JOB at GM. [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] DaemonFC GM, back at the peak of GM. [20:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 42.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.90 [20:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 42.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.90 [20:11] DaemonFC Not bankrupt and the car breaks down by the third payment, guaranteed, GM. [20:11] *techrights_guest|20 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [20:11] TR News "While Gemini doesn't have many weather services, most platforms do. I think there are so many because weather can be so personal. Do you care about barometric pressure? Personally I don't, unless it's dropping, indicating a storm or weather front coming in." gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-03-21-chilly-weather.gmi [20:11] activelow XRevan86: my hypothesis, the rune script is the scripture and culture supposedly lost during the "late bronce age collapse", and the following "greek dark ages" after persian raids [20:12] DaemonFC He was a very mean man. [20:12] activelow this is what i _believe_ [20:12] DaemonFC So he beat his wife, beat his kids, and then passed out somewhere. [20:12] DaemonFC And then they'd all go hungry. [20:12] XRevan86 activelow: Or maybe it was made out of gold from 250 to 400 CE by the Goths. [20:12] bnchs__ wow [20:12] DaemonFC One day he beat my grandmother because there was no food in the house except the shrimp he bought to use as fish bait, and she fried it up and fed it to the kids. [20:12] bnchs__ they all go hungry except him? [20:13] DaemonFC He used to put them all in the car and make them steal corn. [20:13] DaemonFC They'd pull over next to a field and fill the trunk with stolen corn. [20:14] TR News Guidelines for research on the kernel community https://lwn.net/Articles/888891/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/university-of-minnesota-linux/ [20:14] TR Bot for research on the kernel community [LWN.net] [20:14] TR Bot University of Minnesota Has Destroyed Itself (or Its Reputation) by Trying to Destroy Linux and the Credibility of Linux | Techrights [20:14] DaemonFC So when there was food in the house, it would usually be things like lunch meat sandwiches and boiled corn that grandpa stole (even though he made very good money at GM). [20:15] TR News Whats new for developers in the OpenShift 4.10 console | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/22/whats-new-developers-openshift-410-console [20:15] TR Bot Whats new for developers in the OpenShift 4.10 console | Red Hat Developer [20:15] XRevan86 activelow: That would explain why the inscription is Gothic, right? [20:15] DaemonFC He'd drink til passed out, get ripped off for whatever was left in his wallet, scream that he wanted pussy for the entire neighborhood to hear, beat the wife, beat the kids, starve them all, and then pass out again. [20:15] bnchs__ DaemonFC, living your life to the fullest [20:15] DaemonFC Yeah, more Irish than mjg59_ for sure. [20:16] TR News ICBM <3 "fuck you NVIDIA" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-and-nvidia-accelerate-enterprise-ai-projects-gpus-dpus-and-mlops [20:16] TR Bot How Red Hat and NVIDIA are helping to accelerate enterprise AI projects with GPUs, DPUs and MLOps [20:16] DaemonFC I'm cursed. It's on both sides of my family. The Irish. OMFG... [20:16] activelow XRevan86: any idea why it was destroyed, this ring of the goths? [20:17] DaemonFC Mom was talking out of her ass one day a long time ago and said there may have been a black person in my dad's side of the family somewhere. I don't know what makes her think that. I said...."IRISH!!! IRISH!!!!". [20:17] DaemonFC She did find a way to make me proud of my Irish ancestry, I'll give her that. [20:18] XRevan86 activelow: "the ring was cut in half by thieves" [20:18] bnchs__ well yes you are cursed [20:18] XRevan86 activelow: Human negligence. [20:18] bnchs__ your family literally makes food that could feed 5 families [20:18] XRevan86 activelow: Why does the Russian army destroy historical buildings in the cities of Ukraine? [20:18] bnchs__ and you guys eat it all [20:18] bnchs__ fatasses [20:18] XRevan86 activelow: To hide a hidden cultural secret? [20:18] DaemonFC bnchs__, Well, I don't do that. [20:19] DaemonFC The only time I've tended to seriously overeat was at a restaurant. [20:19] DaemonFC They make huge portions and bring them out to you and before you know it... [20:19] bnchs__ you ate it all [20:19] DaemonFC Or buffets. schestowitz said he doesn't like them because you tend to overeat to get your money's worth. [20:19] XRevan86 activelow: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Pietroassa_Inschrift.jpg enjoy [20:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Pietroassa_Inschrift.jpg [20:20] TR News Mrs. SAP is openwashing SUSE, which is pushing proprietary software and has worked to cancel the very founder of GNU/Linux by backing a writ of libel https://www.suse.com/c/welcome-to-the-age-of-open-innovation/ [20:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/welcome-to-the-age-of-open-innovation/ [20:20] TR Bot to the Age of Open Innovation | SUSE Communities [20:20] XRevan86 How to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elder_Futhark#Description [20:20] TR Bot Elder Futhark - Wikipedia [20:20] DaemonFC Well, if it's $10.50 no matter how much you eat, it encourages you to get a couple plates and then some cake why not. [20:20] bnchs__ DaemonFC, 10.50 dollars regardless of what you eat? [20:20] DaemonFC Yeah. [20:20] bnchs__ that's like a fatass's dream [20:21] DaemonFC It is! [20:21] DaemonFC Golden Corral [20:21] DaemonFC Ron White made it part of his routine. [20:21] TR News Ubuntu 22.04 Adds Additional Color Options Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162861 [20:21] TR Bot Ubuntu 22.04 Adds Additional Color Options | Tux Machines [20:21] DaemonFC And the real mystery is how they make any money at all at those prices. [20:21] DaemonFC Even for dinner they only charge $13.50, in this economy. [20:21] DaemonFC And they throw in unlimited steak and shrimp. [20:21] bnchs__ thats why fatasses raid buffers [20:21] bnchs__ i mean buffets [20:22] DaemonFC It is. [20:22] bnchs__ until they have nothing [20:22] DaemonFC Oh, I've seen way worse than me going there. [20:22] bnchs__ them in mobility scooters? [20:22] DaemonFC They put out and entire tray of fried chicken and some black woman with an ass the size and shape of two badly parked Volkswagens in a pair of spandex pants got them all. [20:23] DaemonFC All I wanted was one piece of chicken. Had to wait on them to fry up another batch. [20:23] bnchs__ lol [20:23] DaemonFC I heard about one guy that kept eating fish until they threw him out, up in Wisconsin. [20:23] bnchs__ just imagine a guy in a mobility scooter [20:23] bnchs__ going up to you [20:23] DaemonFC Then when they did that, he refused to pay, got arrested, and then came back and picketed them. [20:23] bnchs__ "can i get all of that chicken please" [20:23] DaemonFC And got arrested again. [20:24] DaemonFC I mean, arrested twice over fish and refusing to pay his bill and leave. [20:24] *zleap2 (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [20:24] bnchs__ i wouldn't like to work at a buffet [20:25] DaemonFC The last time I was over at the Chinese buffet, there was some black lady BRAGGING about how stingy she was with tips. [20:25] bnchs__ probably low pay and loads of fatasses [20:25] *zleap has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:25] bnchs__ it's a miracle they even have buffets [20:25] DaemonFC "Motherfucker I just done gave you a tip two days ago! I don't always have to be tippin' yo ass!" [20:25] DaemonFC "Here she comes, hand me two dollar!" [20:25] XRevan86 activelow: It is really strange that the language in which the inscription is written belonged to a Germanic people that was contemporary to the Roman Empire, not the Bronze Age. [20:26] XRevan86 It's so weird. [20:26] DaemonFC bnchs__, It's not just the disgusting fatasses that saunter in every day and make a mess and then tip $2 maybe. [20:26] DaemonFC It's that they're so fucking gross and stupid that they get into fist fights and start throwing food at each other sometimes. [20:26] DaemonFC Seen it. [20:26] bnchs__ lol [20:26] DaemonFC Christmas Day [20:26] DaemonFC Chinese restaurant smackdown. [20:27] bnchs__ shoves the food in their faces [20:27] bnchs__ and leave [20:27] bnchs__ that's why you guys are so obese [20:27] DaemonFC I'm not obese. [20:27] bnchs__ i know [20:27] bnchs__ i'm talking about america [20:27] DaemonFC Like, people come in there and I'm like "OMG HOW ARE YOU EVEN ALIVE?" [20:28] TR News Big Brother Gulag is already your parent, and it spies on everything you do, more so if you use the malware known as "Chrome" (propruietary) https://www.maketecheasier.com/setting-up-chrome-user-settings/ [20:28] TR Bot How to Set Up Parental Controls in Google Chrome - Make Tech Easier [20:28] DaemonFC We're not talking overweight. This is way past overweight. They passed obese a few miles back. They're at Morbid Obesity. [20:28] bnchs__ yes [20:28] bnchs__ they're like people [20:28] bnchs__ who can't even stand in their 2 legs anymore [20:28] DaemonFC Then they wonder why our healthcare costs are high. [20:28] DaemonFC Well, if you're not going to diet and exercise, at least take your blood pressure meds so you don't stroke out. [20:29] DaemonFC It is so much cheaper to take your meds than it is to wait as the damage piles up and eventually you're talking kidney failure, stroke, amputations. [20:29] bnchs__ they favor fatasses in social control media [20:29] DaemonFC They all vote for Trump. [20:30] bnchs__ when you show them a skinny girl, they go "omg you straving" or "you ugly" [20:30] bnchs__ when you show them a morbidly obese mountain of lard, they go "omg yasss queen" [20:30] DaemonFC There's also such a thing as disturbingly thin. [20:30] DaemonFC But it's somewhat less common in America. [20:30] DaemonFC By a factor of about 60. [20:31] TR News Oracle Announces Java 18 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162862 [20:31] TR Bot Oracle Announces Java 18 | Tux Machines [20:31] DaemonFC I have been trying to do "something" about my sodium intake. It's not where it should be. Whose in America is? [20:31] DaemonFC But I've been swapping out the "reduced sodium" versions of everything. [20:31] DaemonFC Even the ketchup. [20:32] bnchs__ well [20:32] activelow XRevan86: the Goths/Deutsch are not Romans/Latin; it is a distinct language, closer to Russian than roman/latin [20:32] DaemonFC 30-40% less bad may still be bad, but at least you may not be talking about a disastrous level of sodium at this point. [20:32] bnchs__ DaemonFC, do they hate diets there [20:32] XRevan86 activelow: I said "contemporary", that means "existed in the same time period" [20:32] activelow and, again, only a hypothesis of mine, it resembles archaic greek Titan era language [20:32] bnchs__ when you do diets, do they say "you're gonna strave" or some shit? [20:32] DaemonFC Fad diets? Oh my, no. Fad diets are BIG here. [20:32] DaemonFC Atkins and Slim Fast were the two biggest I recall. [20:33] DaemonFC Slim Fast does work, and so does Atkins. [20:33] DaemonFC But compliance is an issue. [20:33] DaemonFC Slim Fast is pretty straightforward. [20:33] DaemonFC It's just calorie control and partial liquid diet. [20:34] XRevan86 activelow: I don't want to break it to you but Latin is closer to German than Russian is. [20:34] DaemonFC You drink one shake for breakfast, one for lunch, and eat something for dinner that doesn't exceed about 1,500 calories and most men will lose weight at a decent pace. [20:34] DaemonFC It mostly works by causing you not to have unstable blood sugar levels until you get to dinner. [20:34] DaemonFC Which helps with the food cravings. [20:35] DaemonFC I've also lost weight before with "One meal per day. Anything you want. Don't exceed 2,000 calories". [20:35] DaemonFC That's pretty easy to do. [20:35] XRevan86 activelow: Slavic languages are Satem, Romance and Germanic languages are in one Centum group. [20:35] DaemonFC Atkins avoids carbs almost completely. [20:35] activelow XRevan86: not with the subset of basic vocabulary [20:36] DaemonFC Atkins is pretty compatible with gluten-free, because a lot of the substitutions made to make something gluten free also avoid the carbs. [20:36] XRevan86 activelow: Sure, cherry-pick vocabulary in such a way that confirms your narrative. [20:36] activelow the most obvious, Odin, as both the divnity, and the Russian number 1 [20:36] activelow to begin there [20:36] DaemonFC Like using cauliflower pizza crusts. [20:37] TR News NVIDIA 510.60.02 Graphics Driver Released with Support for RTX A4000H and A5500 GPUs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162863 [20:37] TR Bot NVIDIA 510.60.02 Graphics Driver Released with Support for RTX A4000H and A5500 GPUs | Tux Machines [20:37] TR News Red Hat and NVIDIA, OpenShift News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162864 [20:37] TR Bot Red Hat and NVIDIA, OpenShift News | Tux Machines [20:37] XRevan86 activelow: Is "Odin" basic vocabulary now? [20:37] DaemonFC There's also vegetarian diets. Those tend to make you lose weight because the meal is filling without being a greasy calorie bomb, usually. [20:38] XRevan86 activelow: I can't find it in the Swadesh list for some reason. [20:38] DaemonFC But Bill Gates is working hard against that. [20:38] DaemonFC These fake meats not only just don't taste right. [20:38] DaemonFC But they're less nutritious and have more sodium and saturated fat than lean ground beef sometimes. [20:38] TR News "First up this week: Most of Apples services were down yesterday (at least in some regions). For at least two hours, very little was working, including the dev site and some internal apps." https://devops.com/apple-outage-outrage-linux-random-redo-okta-hacked-or-not/ [20:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: devops.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devops.com/apple-outage-outrage-linux-random-redo-okta-hacked-or-not/ [20:38] TR Bot Outage Outrage | Linux Random Redo | Okta Hacked (or Not) - DevOps.com [20:39] DaemonFC If you're on a sodium restricted diet, you can't go anywhere near Bill's Burgers. [20:39] XRevan86 activelow: Russian "" does have a German cognate, it's "ein". [20:39] DaemonFC Burger King's Impossible Whoppers cost more. They taste pretty much like a normal burger, but they're higher in sodium, which isn't exactly good for you. [20:40] DaemonFC Usually, when I go out to a burger place these days, I ask for the fries with no salt on them. [20:40] activelow XRevan86: "Christianization", "Helenization" (Kyrill), besides the Wulfile Bible is attributed to eastern Europe geographically, although it is Gothic [20:40] XRevan86 activelow: By the way, Odin was earlier "Othin" [20:40] DaemonFC That's an easy thing to cut out and they still taste pretty good. [20:40] XRevan86 activelow: P-I-E never had a "th" sound, and the whole Russian language ancestry didn't either. [20:40] DaemonFC I still eat SPAM sometimes, but it's the less sodium SPAM. [20:41] DaemonFC I'm married to an Asian person so soy sauce keeps coming up. [20:41] DaemonFC The lowest sodium soy sauce I've found is Walmart's Great Value brand. [20:41] activelow XRevan86: yes, in German language it too could be "Osdin"/Osten (east, the russian region relative to the west); [20:41] XRevan86 activelow: And here's a hint on the history of pronunciation of the name "Odin": Wednesday means "Odin's day" [20:41] DaemonFC Kikkoman makes a lower sodium soy sauce, but it has almost as much sodium as Great Value's regular soy sauce. [20:42] activelow Saudi(n)... it's the ones living in the south [20:42] TR News GNOME 42 review: IS THEMING DEAD? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XQrIf3Rkjjs ICBM treats desktops like hypePhone now? [20:42] TR Bot GNOME 42 review: IS THEMING DEAD? - Invidious [20:42] DaemonFC Canned broths are the worst for sodium. When you find cans of reduced sodium broth, they have as much sodium as the regular broth in a tetrapak, and the reduced sodium broth in the tetrapak has half of the sodium as the regular tetrapak. [20:42] DaemonFC If you want to REALLY jack up your blood pressure, use canned broths. [20:42] XRevan86 activelow: The Germanic god Wodanaz [20:43] *zleap2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:43] TR News "When YouTube Vanced shutdown we didn't really know why but following all the theory they have posted a write up explaining the real reason Vanced was shutdown, at least the reason they want to say." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jNwkXMJqlR0 [20:43] TR Bot The "REAL" Reason YouTube Killed Vanced! - Invidious [20:43] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [20:44] activelow and it's plausible, if the Nebra Sky Disk is authentic, which i _believe_ it is, during bronce age already the goths navigated across the oceans and along the rivers, to trade and travel [20:44] XRevan86 activelow: Comparing modern Russian with "Odin" is just nuts. [20:44] DaemonFC Sodium is a big cause of death in America because Americans like to eat, and processed foods contain much more sodium than needs to be in there. [20:44] DaemonFC The processed food companies have spent years and years just adding more and more of it. [20:44] DaemonFC And it's basically why SPAM doesn't really go bad for a very long time. [20:44] activelow and at some time, known as "Titanomachy", when "Atlantis" was drowning in water (which i suspect was heavy snow-fall), Herkles/Herzeles and Atlas disputed who was supposed to carry the globe and the skies, which was the Nebra Sky Disk [20:45] TR News 10 Features Why GNOME 42 is the Greatest Release Ever Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162865 [20:45] TR Bot 10 Features Why GNOME 42 is the Greatest Release Ever | Tux Machines [20:45] *XRevan86 lost interest. [20:45] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162866 [20:45] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:45] DaemonFC Sodium jacks up diastolic blood pressure the most. [20:45] XRevan86 activelow: Your analysis is not just surface-level, it's anecdotal. [20:45] DaemonFC Sodium is to your blood what pouring "STP oil treatment" is to a modern car engine. [20:46] DaemonFC Just pour it in there and run the car and BOOOM! [20:46] XRevan86 "I heard that Russian has a word "odin", it must mean god "Odin" in some unfathomable stupid way" [20:46] DaemonFC Odin is also the name of Wine for OS/2. [20:46] bnchs__ DaemonFC, just imagine this ok [20:46] bnchs__ in the future [20:47] DaemonFC I don't think there's any technical reason why Vulkan drivers couldn't be ported to OS/2. [20:47] bnchs__ they're gonna change overweight/obese to normal [20:47] bnchs__ and today's normal to underweight [20:47] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I'm sure activelow has proof that wireless data transfer called Bluetooth is actually prehistorical. [20:47] DaemonFC The main difference with Odin v. Wine is that Portable Executable is the native binary format of OS/2, and is a foreign binary format on UNIX. [20:47] DaemonFC After that, the threading and process models in OS/2 are quite similar to Windows NT. [20:48] activelow XRevan86: the "atlantis" myth is real, and the nebra sky disk is the evidence; yet it wasn't water, i think it was heavy snow fall during harsh winter season [20:48] activelow that's why northern europe was known as "Hades", both as fertile land (Summer), and the land of the dead (Winter) [20:48] DaemonFC DaemonFC: I'm sure activelow has proof that wireless data transfer called Bluetooth is actually prehistorical. [20:49] DaemonFC Well, Apple did introduce this well before it was ready. [20:49] DaemonFC So it didn't actually work too well. [20:49] DaemonFC Like the time Steve Jobs had his failed WiFi introduction. [20:49] XRevan86 DaemonFC: It was tough in the Bronze Age, Apple had to survive. [20:49] DaemonFC Then started screaming at everyone in the room for trying to use it. [20:50] DaemonFC Well, it's just like Apple, you know. [20:50] DaemonFC Give you something that only begins to work after most people don't care anymore. [20:50] DaemonFC Firewire.... [20:52] activelow the people living in southern europe didn't know prolonged harsh winter seasons, that's why, they considered "Atlantis", the original Athens of the Titan era mythology, condemned [20:52] psydruid Even Thunderbolt is like that, but they merged most of it into USB 4 to keep it alive [20:53] DaemonFC Atlantis had to leave Earth. It was unfortunate what happened when they encountered the Wraith. [20:53] DaemonFC XRevan86, The best SG-1 episodes were always the ones when the Russians started fucking around with the Stargate and couldn't figure out how to fix any of the disasters they almost destroyed Earth with. [20:54] DaemonFC Usually because they had no safety standards in place to begin with, other than maybe nerve gassing everyone on the base. [20:55] XRevan86 DaemonFC: It was ahead of its time. [20:56] DaemonFC They tagged along with SG-1 once and nearly got everyone killed, but mostly just their whole team. [20:57] XRevan86 activelow: I don't do shrooms. [20:58] DaemonFC Neither does he. [20:58] XRevan86 DaemonFC: What does he do? [20:58] XRevan86 Is that all natural? [20:58] DaemonFC He has some leftover East German 49% coffee that he's been snorting during the lockdown. [20:58] DaemonFC Nobody ever DID figure out what the rest of it was. [20:58] DaemonFC ;) ● Mar 22 [21:01] DaemonFC Even with the fucking stupid politicians we have over here, we can normally buy most anything we want at the store. [21:02] DaemonFC The whole "to each according to his needs" is where Communism keeps stumbling over and failing. [21:02] DaemonFC Then they have to insist, at gunpoint. [21:03] DaemonFC I don't even think that Vladimir Putin is doing whataboutisms when he brings up something that happened 30 or 40 years ago. [21:03] DaemonFC The guy is living in the past. [21:04] DaemonFC My mom bought a Volkswagen once and it was always in the shop and then the engine exploded at 86,000 miles (VW in any decade). [21:04] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [21:04] DaemonFC But it happened in 1981 and my dad was still yelling at her about it in 1995, and she asked him "When am I going to stop hearing about this?". [21:04] DaemonFC He said, "When I think you've been punished enough.". [21:05] DaemonFC He'd make a great Russian president I suppose. [21:05] XRevan86 > "New Chronology" is a theory of a radical revision of historical chronology, according to which the modern habitual chronology coincides with historical events only starting from the XVIII century, while in the Middle Ages there was a powerful empire of Russia-Horde, Tsar Peter I was replaced by foreigners, and Jesus Christ was born in Crimea. [21:05] XRevan86 > According to the creators of the theory, Fomenko and Nosovsky, Yaroslavl is actually the chronicle of Veliky Novgorod. Mathematicians came to this conclusion by studying the "inconsistencies" of the annals and the geography of modern Yaroslavl and Novgorod. The authors of the concept consider the official history until the 17th century to be falsified. [21:05] XRevan86 activelow: ^ This is how I classify in my mind what ye are saying. [21:05] DaemonFC It's unclear what exactly Putin wants in Ukraine. [21:06] DaemonFC If he tries to annex it, he'd have to divert resources away from Russia to do that with. And he probably doesn't want that. [21:06] *psydroid9 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [21:06] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [21:06] TR News Media Blames Free Software When Microsoft Distributes Malware and Gets Cracked | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/microsoft-infosec-propaganda/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/microsoft-infosec-propaganda/ [21:06] TR Bot Media Blames Free Software When Microsoft Distributes Malware and Gets Cracked | Techrights [21:06] DaemonFC If he tries to knock over the legitimate government and turn it back into a satellite state, the puppet regime will be universally hated, and there will have to be a long term Russian occupation to enforce the fake government, so it would be as bad as simply annexing it. [21:06] TR News Media Blames Free Software When Microsoft Distributes Malware and Gets Cracked | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/microsoft-infosec-propaganda/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/microsoft-infosec-propaganda/ [21:07] DaemonFC A lot of Russians are dying there, they know not why. [21:07] DaemonFC When Ukraine rebuilds, they'll hate Russia forever. [21:07] activelow XRevan86: evidence was systematically destroyed and falsified, one example being the Ring of Pietroassa; that's a fact. [21:07] XRevan86 activelow: Tell me they're wrong and which region of Germany Jesus Chris was born in. [21:07] DaemonFC The Russian economy is ruined. [21:08] DaemonFC Mission Accomplished? [21:08] activelow XRevan86: cultural and language heritage of northern europe isn't jewish/christian/muslim [21:08] TR News Manic couch co-op game D-Corp gets a large content update | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/manic-couch-co-op-game-d-corp-gets-a-large-content-update [21:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/manic-couch-co-op-game-d-corp-gets-a-large-content-update [21:08] TR Bot couch co-op game D-Corp gets a large content update | GamingOnLinux [21:08] DaemonFC All three of those tend to kill whoever was there and less warlike before. [21:09] DaemonFC Then declares that the heritage has always been an Abrahamic religion in that region. [21:09] AdmFubar https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-developing-embedded-64-bit-risc-v-cpu [21:09] TR Bot AMD Job Posting Hints at Embedded RISC-V CPUs | Tom's Hardware [21:09] XRevan86 activelow: If the Ring of Pietroassa weren't damaged, ye would have found another artefact that were. It's as simple as that. [21:10] XRevan86 activelow: There is a shit-load of preserved artefacts. And a shit-load of damaged ones. [21:10] *XRevan86 imagines that activelow never broke a single thing in his life. [21:10] XRevan86 And if he did, it was systematic and intentional. [21:11] activelow XRevan86: there isn't many artifacts nor speakers of the language remaining, in fact many artifacts (such as the golden hats presented in Nurnberg) were molten for their gold [21:11] TR News "gron is a self-contained Go executable you can download from here on GitHub. In the UNIX tradition, gron does one thing well: it flattens JSON into a structure that's easily processed by shell tools, line by line." https://www.datafix.com.au/BASHing/2022-03-23.html [21:11] TR Bot gron the JSON flattener [21:11] activelow and the last remains of the language and their speakers are eradicated nowadays [21:11] XRevan86 activelow: There are plenty of artefacts. [21:12] MinceR 22 220325 < DaemonFC> The guy is living in the past. [21:12] MinceR he lives in a dream world [21:12] XRevan86 activelow: Maybe not of your imaginary history, but it's literally impossible for there to be unambiguous evidence for something that never existed. [21:12] MinceR along with his followers [21:12] DaemonFC he lives in a dream world [21:12] DaemonFC Same thing. [21:12] XRevan86 activelow: There is a lot of evidence that supports normal history though. [21:12] DaemonFC People remember the past however they want to remember it. [21:12] DaemonFC Then they live in it. [21:12] MinceR 22 220539 < DaemonFC> It's unclear what exactly Putin wants in Ukraine. [21:12] MinceR map painting [21:12] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [21:12] *psydroid9 has quit (connection closed) [21:12] MinceR history! [21:12] XRevan86 activelow: Actual, real chronology. [21:13] XRevan86 No Bronze Age Germans. [21:13] DaemonFC "FBI says hackers scanned networks of US energy firms ahead of Biden's Russia cyberattack warning" [21:13] activelow XRevan86: pre-socratic "late bronce age collapse" artifacts are very old and extremely rare, that's why it's known as the "greek dark ages" [21:13] DaemonFC Great time for ComEd to move to Microsoft Azure. [21:13] MinceR lol [21:13] DaemonFC We'll see how that works out for them. [21:13] TR News The 7 Best Networking Tools That Replace the Deprecated net-tools on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162867 [21:13] TR Bot The 7 Best Networking Tools That Replace the Deprecated net-tools on Linux | Tux Machines [21:14] SomeH4x0r define deprecation [21:14] XRevan86 activelow: So ye use the gaps to fill them with your speculation? [21:14] SomeH4x0r want to support activelow regarding GCC, fucking tired [21:14] SomeH4x0r I mean as in my opinion only [21:15] XRevan86 "so yea, the Missing Link is actually aliens zapping humans with a smart ray" [21:15] TR News Coast, a little map viewer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162868 [21:15] TR Bot Coast, a little map viewer | Tux Machines [21:15] XRevan86 Sucks that the evolution theory is so evolved that the Missing Link is now moot. [21:15] MinceR can't have been a particularly smart one [21:15] SomeH4x0r why can't we fucking write code once and let it stay for decades? [21:15] MinceR because it's "obsolete" and "unmaintained" [21:15] SomeH4x0r a few years pass, and it refuses to build because a few libraries break [21:16] MinceR got to integrate an email client and a web browser so you have to issue patches every month for it. [21:16] SomeH4x0r I might write some code, but then I might die or lose my memory about it [21:16] DaemonFC "Some Russian soldiers have gotten frostbite due to lack of appropriate gear, senior US defense official says" [21:16] SomeH4x0r and in a few years it turns out like I did nothing [21:17] DaemonFC Like the Nazis when they got bogged down in Russia. [21:17] TR News It seems increasingly apparent that the corporate tech media isnt just misleading readers/viewers (audiences) by accident; theres a deliberate attempt to shift attention and shift blame, so it is in effect and in perpetuity a campaign of disinformation (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt), not just misinformation, and we must collectively confront this campaign http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/microsoft-infosec-propaganda/ [21:17] TR Bot Media Blames Free Software When Microsoft Distributes Malware and Gets Cracked | Techrights [21:17] SomeH4x0r because no one bothers to fix that piece of code [21:19] TR News SUSE/OpenSUSE: YaST Team Report and Openwashing by the CEO Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162869 [21:19] TR Bot SUSE/OpenSUSE: YaST Team Report and Openwashing by the CEO | Tux Machines [21:19] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:19] *psydruid wonders where the gemini links went [21:19] SomeH4x0r software development patterns make me feel depressed regarding the future of computing [21:19] TR News Voice Remote = bug, listening device, malware https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/roku-ultra-streaming-device/ [21:19] TR Bot Save $31 on a Roku Ultra Streaming Device with Voice Remote - Make Tech Easier [21:21] AdmFubar https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/all-windows-versions-impacted-by-new-local-privilege-escalation-lpe-zero-day-vulnerability.441646/ [21:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: wilderssecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/all-windows-versions-impacted-by-new-local-privilege-escalation-lpe-zero-day-vulnerability.441646/ [21:21] TR Bot All Windows versions impacted by new Local Privilege Escalation (LPE) zero-day vulnerability | Wilders Security Forums [21:22] TR News "Maximising the number of towelling-off occurrences of a single towel for the entire body." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/855 [21:22] TR News Zotero Research Tool Gets Biggest Upgrade in its History Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162870 [21:22] TR Bot Zotero Research Tool Gets Biggest Upgrade in its History | Tux Machines [21:23] kingoffrance SomeH4x0r, i remember seeing https://semver.org/ and thinking "isnt that just how normal versioning is supposed to work?" [21:23] TR Bot Semantic Versioning 2.0.0 | Semantic Versioning [21:23] TR News "My young musician friend didn't realize that PayPal notifications acknowledging purchases from him would wind up revealing his real name to others. His workaround will be to tell others that's his manager's name.... :-)" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/856 [21:23] SomeH4x0r > all windows versions | not clearly defined [21:24] SomeH4x0r "all windows versions" would mean from the very first Windows concept version (pre-1.0) to the current latest one [21:24] psydruid windows is irrelevant and dying [21:25] TR News #HowTo install Moshi Monsters Rewritten Desktop on Zorin OS 16 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=twGI_0ErB-s [21:25] TR Bot How to install Moshi Monsters Rewritten Desktop on Zorin OS 16 - Invidious [21:25] *oarion7 (anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [21:26] bnchs__ SomeH4x0r, it probably means all windows NT versions [21:26] TR News Xubuntus Default Xfce Desktop Theme Greybird Gets Initial Support for GTK4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162871 [21:26] TR Bot Xubuntus Default Xfce Desktop Theme Greybird Gets Initial Support for GTK4 | Tux Machines [21:28] AdmFubar https://calgaryherald.com/the-logic/why-canadas-shocking-crackdown-on-the-convoy-fundraisers-continues-to-rattle-the-crypto-world [21:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: calgaryherald.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://calgaryherald.com/the-logic/why-canadas-shocking-crackdown-on-the-convoy-fundraisers-continues-to-rattle-the-crypto-world [21:28] TR Bot Why Canada's 'shocking' crackdown on the convoy fundraisers continues to rattle the crypto world | Calgary Herald [21:31] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:31] *activelow (~activelow@wruyhdcv8sj3g.irc) has joined #techrights [21:31] TR News Weve Made It! | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/33k-posts-in-techrights/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/33k-posts-in-techrights/ [21:31] TR Bot Weve Made It! | Techrights [21:33] *mib_rvl16q (~519aa912@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:33] *techrights_guest|83 (~519aa912@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:35] DaemonFC I like to share labs back and forth when my primary care doctor and my psychiatrist overlap, which saves me from having to have certain procedures repeated, but unfortunately due to the insane billing setup our country has, if you doctor just orders labs and doesn't state a "medically necessary" reason code, then you could end up being billed a lot when the insurance company rejects something. [21:35] DaemonFC So sometimes I have to go get blood drawn again for an extra test, but instead of it being another 3-4 vials, it'll be one. [21:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, Facebook owes me $397. [21:36] DaemonFC They settled their BIPA case for $695 million dollars after trying to have it dismissed or removed to a friendlier court, and losing both motions. [21:37] DaemonFC Then they decided after losing the BIPA case to stop using facial recognition on Facebook, at all. Because of the damages from one state law. [21:37] DaemonFC BIPA is an unusually strong privacy law. [21:38] *hourram (~hourram@qj7n4mscqi93y.irc) has joined #techrights [21:39] bnchs__ DaemonFC, really? [21:40] bnchs__ i hope they don't remove BIPA [21:41] TR News LibrePlanet 2014: Free Software for Freedom, Surveillance and You | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/surveillance-and-you/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/surveillance-and-you/ [21:41] TR Bot LibrePlanet 2014: Free Software for Freedom, Surveillance and You | Techrights [21:41] DaemonFC Some companies have ceased doing business in Illinois because of the amount of money they lost. [21:42] DaemonFC Most of them were up to no good anyway. [21:42] DaemonFC This is the second time I got BIPA money from Facebook. [21:42] DaemonFC They had another lawsuit where I got like $85 as my share of the settlement. [21:42] DaemonFC Then Uber had a couple under BIPA and the TCPA. [21:43] DaemonFC I got a couple hundred bucks from them sending spam text messages. [21:44] DaemonFC There's a lot of companies out there that are up to no good. [21:44] DaemonFC Usually, the settlements say they're to be split with everyone who submits a valid claim. [21:44] DaemonFC I got some money back from Intel once. [21:45] DaemonFC They deceptively marketed a processor that I had bought 10 years prior and I got $135, which was about what the processor cost me. [21:46] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/22/routinely-terrible-anti-piracy-company-seeks-court-order-preventing-torrentfreak-from-covering-its-terribleness/ [21:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/22/routinely-terrible-anti-piracy-company-seeks-court-order-preventing-torrentfreak-from-covering-its-terribleness/ [21:46] TR Bot Terrible Anti-Piracy Company Seeks Court Order Preventing TorrentFreak From Covering Its Terribleness | Techdirt [21:47] DaemonFC They must have gotten Matthew GOOOOOOOOLAG's attorney. [21:49] DaemonFC What's most likely going on is they hired one of those fly by night companies that go "Are you a scumbag? Are you running a reprehensible business? Why should YOU change? We'll get negative information taken down GUARANTEED!". [21:50] TR News Links 22/3/2022: Java 18 and LabPlot 2.9 Beta | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/java-18/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/java-18/ [21:50] TR Bot Links 22/3/2022: Java 18 and LabPlot 2.9 Beta | Techrights [21:51] *mib_rvl16q has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [21:51] *techrights_guest|83 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [21:51] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162872 [21:52] psydruid Intel marketed its own 10-year-old CPU? [21:52] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [21:52] schestowitz-TR marked down :-) [21:52] schestowitz-TR they still have celeron [21:52] schestowitz-TR "we make intentionally lesser CPUs" [21:53] schestowitz-TR for the price scheme [21:53] schestowitz-TR business model [21:53] schestowitz-TR make intentionally crippled CPUs [21:53] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:53] schestowitz-TR and use PATENTS.... a LOT [21:53] schestowitz-TR Intel lobbies for SOFTWARE parents [21:53] TR News Videos: GNOME and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162873 [21:54] TR Bot Videos: GNOME and More | Tux Machines [21:54] psydruid they have nothing else to base their business on [21:54] schestowitz-TR same at IBM [21:54] schestowitz-TR (fwiw) [21:54] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:54] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162874 [21:54] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [21:55] TR News UK cases of COVID-19: still high, still killing almost 1,000 Brits per week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/22/united-kingdom-covid/ [21:55] TR Bot Blog Archive United Kingdom: COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Highest Number in a Month, Deaths Highest in 1.5 Months, and More Than Half a Million Infected Per Week [21:57] TR News Facebook is a scam. With fake friends and fake "likes". https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ukraine-crypto-scam/ [21:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: snopes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ukraine-crypto-scam/ [21:57] TR Bot Donate to Ukraine Through This Facebook Crypto Scam | Snopes.com [21:58] *hourram has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Mar 22 [22:04] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, https://www.pcmag.com/news/hacking-group-starts-dumping-files-allegedly-stolen-from-microsoft [22:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/hacking-group-starts-dumping-files-allegedly-stolen-from-microsoft [22:04] TR Bot Group Starts Dumping Files Allegedly Stolen From Microsoft | PCMag [22:05] DaemonFC I commented: [22:05] DaemonFC They literally can't secure their own networks and computers and yet some people think we need their attempts at a beachhead on GNU/Linux. Simply unbelievable. [22:05] schestowitz-TR :-D [22:05] TR News 33,000 blog posts in Techrights is a huge accomplishment as not many sites manage to post that much and go on relentlessly (on a daily basis) for 17 years; in Gemini were about to exceed 40,000 pages http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/33k-posts-in-techrights/ [22:05] TR Bot Weve Made It! | Techrights [22:05] DaemonFC On Monday, the LAPSUS$ gang began circulating a 10GB compressed archive that supposedly contains internal data on Microsofts Bing search engine and Bing Maps, along with the source code to the companys voice assistant software Cortana. [22:05] DaemonFC Bing Map is 90% complete dump. Bing and Cortana around 45%, LAPSUS$ said in a post in the groups public chatroom. [22:06] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Surely this will be full of embarrassments if anyone makes a commentary about what's in it. [22:07] DaemonFC Along with hiding backdoors and malware, proprietary software helps hide incompetent code. As long as it appears to work, you won't know how buggy it really is if you don't have source code. [22:08] DaemonFC I doubt any department at Microsoft has some sort of vigorous internal review on code quality. [22:08] schestowitz-TR nope [22:08] schestowitz-TR it's not good "RoI" [22:08] schestowitz-TR they skip [22:08] schestowitz-TR and just marketing... instead [22:08] schestowitz-TR and throw FUD at Linux [22:08] schestowitz-TR it's "worse" or "just as bad" [22:09] schestowitz-TR [21:17] It seems increasingly apparent that the corporate tech media isnt just misleading readers/viewers (audiences) by accident; theres a deliberate attempt to shift attention and shift blame, so it is in effect and in perpetuity a campaign of disinformation (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt), not just misinformation, and we must collectively confront this campaign http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/microsoft- [22:09] schestowitz-TR infosec-propaganda/ [22:09] TR Bot Media Blames Free Software When Microsoft Distributes Malware and Gets Cracked | Techrights [22:09] DaemonFC Access died when I was sleeping, one of the members wrote in the groups public chat. Wouldve been a complete dump. But we were all tired. [22:09] DaemonFC LOL [22:09] schestowitz-TR yes, makes sense [22:09] schestowitz-TR why would you expect windows to run OVERNIGHT? [22:10] DaemonFC Microsoft's software crashed and ended up protecting the rest of their source code from being dumped! [22:10] DaemonFC This is too perfect! [22:10] DaemonFC :) [22:10] schestowitz-TR yes, pour some slat [22:10] schestowitz-TR on those wounds (salt) [22:10] schestowitz-TR we need to respond to the media BS [22:11] schestowitz-TR PCMag is Microsoft propaganda rag [22:11] schestowitz-TR IDG [22:11] schestowitz-TR they constantly make up for reality by doing webspam and noise [22:12] TR News 6 Fun Linux Distros to Try if Youre a Distro Hopper Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162875 [22:12] TR Bot 6 Fun Linux Distros to Try if You're a Distro Hopper | Tux Machines [22:17] DaemonFC https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/cable-tv-companies-lost-nearly-5-million-subscribers-in-2021/ [22:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/21/cable-tv-companies-lost-nearly-5-million-subscribers-in-2021/ [22:17] TR Bot TV Companies Lost Nearly 5 Million Subscribers in 2021 | Techdirt [22:18] DaemonFC "That particular form of entertainment did not last much past the year 2027." -Data (Star Trek: TNG) [22:20] DaemonFC https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/14/big-isps-avoided-2020-law-banning-predatory-modem-rental-fees-by-simply-calling-them-something-else/ [22:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/14/big-isps-avoided-2020-law-banning-predatory-modem-rental-fees-by-simply-calling-them-something-else/ [22:20] TR Bot ISPs Avoided 2020 Law Banning Predatory Modem Rental Fees By Simply Calling Them Something Else | Techdirt [22:20] DaemonFC Well, T-Mobile's home internet is good in a couple of ways. [22:21] DaemonFC It's cheaper than Comcast, and it includes all of the fees and taxes in the $50 a month. [22:21] DaemonFC So you don't need to have them go "Well, yeah the SERVICE is this much, but there's also a $6 franchise fee every month, and $10 in taxes, and a $14 modem rental. And your internet bill is now $107. [22:22] DaemonFC Whoops, you used too much data. Let's just call it $127. Yeah? [22:24] schestowitz DaemonFC: typos? http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/vista-11-bleeding/ [22:24] TR Bot Windows is Dying Despite Vista 11 Hype | Techrights [22:26] TR News spent on dishonest marketing | Gemini address: spent on dishonest marketing [22:27] TR News Windows is Dying Despite Vista 11 Hype | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/vista-11-bleeding/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/vista-11-bleeding/ [22:28] psydruid the NT family of operating systems is going to be eradicated until only ReactOS remains [22:29] psydruid where would that leave Microsoft? [22:29] schestowitz-TR that's why they buy companies [22:30] schestowitz-TR last year: we are a security company [22:30] schestowitz-TR this year: oh, shit [22:30] bnchs__ lol [22:30] schestowitz-TR look the other way [22:30] schestowitz-TR LOOK< L@@@K @ Linux [22:30] bnchs__ trying to search "create file in /run" [22:30] schestowitz-TR "dirty pipe".... "OH SNAP" [22:30] bnchs__ it's literally bringing me up windows shit [22:30] bnchs__ even though the query is related to unix-like [22:31] TR News Development Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162857 [22:31] TR Bot Development Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:32] bnchs__ even with "create file in /run directory" it brings up window [22:32] bnchs__ windows shit [22:32] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@sy7ss5msyeqgk.irc) has joined #techrights [22:35] TR News Wait, they don't know Salesforce is racist? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/racial_investigation_salesforce/ see http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/ [22:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/racial_investigation_salesforce/ [22:35] TR Bot Activist investors want Salesforce investigated for equality The Register [22:35] TR Bot The OSIs President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE | Techrights [22:36] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:36] TR News We tried the Asahi Linux alpha on an M1 Mac Mini http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162724#comment-33157 [22:36] TR Bot The first Asahi Linux Alpha Release is here! | Tux Machines [22:38] TR News Xenotransplantation: Are pigs the future of organ transplants? [22:38] TR News yes, I'm all for using human hearts to save pigs. I can think of some human pigs whose hearts might be of use to real pigs in need https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60708120 [22:38] TR Bot Xenotransplantation: Are pigs the future of organ transplants? - BBC News [22:40] TR News The whole "pig hearts" thing isn't what it seems; they genetically modify them. Sooner or later the sick, rich, greedy oligarchs will just grow extra spare humans (or close to that) for "spare parts"... in some places they do that already. A baby born any moment, to become "spare parts" of some oligarch. [22:42] TR News Western oligarchs: "job creators".... creating more humans whose job is to give away bodyparts to ageing oligarchs. And "philanthropists"... giving loose to some hospitals that facilitate such a sick thing. [22:42] DaemonFC Seems to be fine. [22:42] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.technewsworld.com/story/ransomware-related-data-leaks-jump-82-in-2021-87419.html [22:43] DaemonFC Billions wasted to continue losing marketshare. [22:43] TR Bot Data Leaks Jump 82% in 2021 | TechNewsWorld [22:43] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: pretty much [22:43] DaemonFC About all they do is cannibalize older versions of Windows. [22:43] schestowitz-TR worse [22:43] schestowitz-TR they spilt the development [22:43] schestowitz-TR now they have two spaghetti to keep an eye on [22:43] DaemonFC There's really not much development going on in Windows 10. [22:43] DaemonFC They backport a few things. [22:44] DaemonFC Windows 8.1 is on life support (security patches only). [22:44] schestowitz-TR who uses it? [22:44] schestowitz-TR I never saw it for real, ever [22:44] DaemonFC Oh, like 4-5% I think. [22:44] DaemonFC They're locked into supporting it because that's the lifecycle they said it would have when they released it. [22:45] DaemonFC But it won't even get security patches for much longer. [22:45] DaemonFC So it's basically dead. [22:45] TR News OSI barely doing anything https://fossforce.com/2022/03/after-last-years-hack-osi-elects-new-board-members-without-incident/ see http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/osi-privacy-issues/ [22:45] TR Bot After Last Year's Hack, OSI Elects New Board Members Without Incident - FOSS Force [22:45] TR Bot The OSIs Defunct Elections (Privacy Breach), Conflict of Interest (Nicholson), and Other Lingering Problems | Techrights [22:48] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [22:48] DaemonFC Windows 11 doesn't accomplish much of anything for Microsoft. It's like Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine. [22:48] DaemonFC Nobody can quite tell what the upside of Windows 11 is for Microsoft. Probably because there isn't one. [22:49] TR News This article makes it seem like everything started in 1991 and GNU is merely GCC, a compiler. This is gross revisionism, which helps nobody but bad faith actors. https://bytexd.com/linux-history-and-why-are-there-so-many-distros/ [22:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: bytexd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bytexd.com/linux-history-and-why-are-there-so-many-distros/ [22:49] TR Bot Linux History and Why Are There So Many Distros [22:49] mimorek droi [22:49] mimorek oops [22:49] DaemonFC https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/22/apple-hit-with-second-icloud-services-outage-in-two-days [22:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/22/apple-hit-with-second-icloud-services-outage-in-two-days [22:49] TR Bot hit with second iCloud services outage in two days | AppleInsider [22:51] AdmFubar the upside of win 11 for m$ is they really didn't have to do anything..... [22:51] TR News "New discoveries await..." in the upcoming Inkscape 1.2 About Screen Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162877 [22:51] TR Bot "New discoveries await..." in the upcoming Inkscape 1.2 About Screen | Tux Machines [22:51] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: lol, AGAIN? [22:51] DaemonFC AGAIN! [22:51] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: maybe mandy will even take a toilet break, for a change [22:51] AdmFubar maybe still.... [22:51] DaemonFC Down with the Clown [22:52] schestowitz-TR no photos... it's on "dad clown" [22:52] schestowitz-TR "da clown" [22:53] AdmFubar schestowitz-TR: TMI! o_O [22:56] TR News Notable: The best open-source note-taking and Markdown editor for 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162878 [22:56] TR Bot Notable: The best open-source note-taking and Markdown editor for 2022 | Tux Machines [22:57] DaemonFC Wine made some improvement to the look and feel of Windows applications very recently. [22:57] DaemonFC They got rid of that really ugly Windows-9x color scheme. [22:58] TR News The bleeding continues; Microsoft is on fire (up in flames) and Windows continues to languish in spite of billions spent on dishonest marketing http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/vista-11-bleeding/ [22:58] TR Bot Windows is Dying Despite Vista 11 Hype | Techrights [22:59] TR News Now, with no social control media, I've not touched Konqueror in almost 3 weeks. I used it every day for years prior to it. [22:59] TR News Prepping Your Computers For an Internet Outage Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162879 [22:59] TR Bot Prepping Your Computers For an Internet Outage | Tux Machines [22:59] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I added the link about Apple ● Mar 22 [23:00] DaemonFC I tried out that Walmart+ thing on the gas station today. It worked. [23:01] DaemonFC I've switched to E15 to run the car off of as well. [23:01] TR News "It's far-future space opera based around an aggressive colonial empire, but follows just one character: an artificial intelligence of one of the empire's military starships." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2020-12-17_ancillary-justice.gmi [23:01] TR News "One interesting behavior of the brute-force program is that it didn't use 100% of the CPU. I found that doing various types of string concatenation caused a big slowdown." gemini://jfh.me/posts/2019-03-04-js-quine.gmi [23:02] DaemonFC I figure the government may go ahead and mandate E15 gas. [23:02] AdmFubar https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/21/22989563/district-of-columbia-karl-racine-grubhub-lawsuit-misleading-fees [23:02] TR Bot DC sues Grubhub for allegedly deceptive business practices - The Verge [23:02] DaemonFC It is something easy that we can go ahead and do without the cooperation of OPEC. [23:03] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: I expect to be back tomorrow) [23:04] AdmFubar https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/22/03/22/0026221/mac-studio-storage-not-user-upgradeable-due-to-software-block?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [23:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/22/03/22/0026221/mac-studio-storage-not-user-upgradeable-due-to-software-block?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [23:04] TR Bot Mac Studio Storage Not User-Upgradeable Due to Software Block - Slashdot [23:04] bnchs__ prepping your computers for an internet outage [23:04] DaemonFC https://www.keloland.com/keloland-com-original/big-truck-can-take-big-bucks-to-fill-up/?ipid=promo-link-block4 [23:04] TR Bot truck can take big bucks to fill up | KELOLAND.com [23:04] bnchs__ hmmmm how [23:04] DaemonFC Every time high gas prices get here, these idiots with the big trucks (for no reason) act like it's never happened before and was totally impossible to see coming. [23:04] *bnchs__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:05] DaemonFC GM picked a great time to sell them trucks with no Fuel Management Module. [23:05] DaemonFC So they lose another mile per gallon. :) [23:09] DaemonFC I don't pay a ton of attention to UK politics, but it looks like Labor just keeps finding ways to lose a ton of seats in every election for about the last decade and a half. [23:09] DaemonFC So obviously they aren't convincing the majority of the voting public. [23:13] AdmFubar of course it is a great time... you don't think gm doesn't have any holdings in the oil industry? [23:15] DaemonFC Don't worry. You get a $50 rebate for not having the FMM, on a $80,000 truck. [23:15] DaemonFC Ought to get you 20 miles, that. [23:25] activelow some simple calculus for the math geniuses of EU finance: i lowered consumption of already low hot water and heating down another 20% in two years, yet i didn't receive any refund at all, instead this year monthly costs increased another ~5Euros: [23:25] activelow what is the annual inflation then for energy? [23:26] activelow yes: 10% inflation of energy prices in Germany. [23:26] schestowitz DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/ [23:26] schestowitz typos? [23:26] TR Bot Linux Foundation: From Linux to Openwashing Services | Techrights [23:27] TR News Linux Foundation: From Linux to Openwashing Services | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/ [23:28] DaemonFC some simple calculus for the math geniuses of EU finance: i lowered consumption of already low hot water and heating down another 20% in two years, yet i didn't receive any refund at all, instead this year monthly costs increased another ~5Euros: [23:28] DaemonFC Same thing happens here. [23:28] activelow those 10% is slightly above average of the *real* inflation (compound interest) i had calculated for energy/food/rents/housing, normalizing against the two currency reforms, this was 30years of 8% annual inflation with compound interest [23:28] activelow DaemonFC: in USA? no in USA energy prices are less than 50% in comparison to Germany. [23:28] schestowitz-TR ?? [23:28] schestowitz-TR source? [23:29] activelow schestowitz-TR: petrol stations. [23:29] DaemonFC I meant, same trend pattern. [23:29] DaemonFC You reduce energy consumption, they raise prices. [23:29] schestowitz-TR you're saying equivalent of car petrol is more x2 the price in US _right now_? [23:29] DaemonFC You end up saving nothing. [23:30] activelow anyway, the real joke is European Central Bank and German government, who argue inflation was supposedly ~2% in the last decades; which is nowhere near the real data (given currency reforms east-mark -> west-mark -> euro obfuscated the data) [23:30] *psydroid9 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [23:31] activelow of cause, it isn't everyon equally affected by this; particularly those who must pay rent for their flat and spend most of their income for food and energy, those are hit by the ~8% inflation [23:31] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:31] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [23:31] *psydroid9 has quit (connection closed) [23:32] activelow officially, basic income and pensions compensated for inflation; in reality they don't for low-income households because their spendings for the high-inflation products: energy, food, rents [23:32] TR News "Richard Stallman will be speaking about the free software movement and your freedom. His speech will be nontechnical, admission is gratis, and the public is encouraged to attend online." https://www.fsf.org/events/rms-20220413-online [23:32] TR Bot Richard Stallman: The state of the free software movement Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [23:33] activelow yet the real concern is this: if the trend continues, and i do not see how glorious EU or german government took any action yet [23:33] activelow to cut spendings in the gigantic bureaucratic apparatus of theirs somewhere, which they probably can't anyway, because social peace [23:35] TR News Java 18 Introduces Features to Enable New Developers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162862#comment-33158 [23:35] TR Bot Oracle Announces Java 18 | Tux Machines [23:36] TR News Torvalds: "So it smells like there's something bad going on in f2fs." https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wgsmvoJFKFWxQ2orEVUOWH1agk9iUNZ=-DFh5OXZL=Ldw@mail.gmail.com/ [23:36] TR Bot Re: [GIT PULL] f2fs for 5.18 - Linus Torvalds [23:36] MinceR 22 222442 < psydruid> windows is irrelevant and dying [23:36] TR News NVIDIA 510.60.02 Linux Driver Released https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/187162/en-us [23:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: nvidia.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/187162/en-us [23:36] TR Bot x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver | 510.60.02 | Linux 64-bit | NVIDIA [23:36] MinceR unfortunately it laid its eggs in Linux and GNU [23:36] TR News GNU Parallel 20220322 () Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162880 [23:36] TR Bot GNU Parallel 20220322 ('') | Tux Machines [23:37] TR News The Linux Foundations about page 13 years ago (compared to this) tells a very different story about what its for http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/lf-openwashing-services/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [23:37] TR Bot Linux Foundation: From Linux to Openwashing Services | Techrights [23:37] TR Bot Linux Foundation - Techrights [23:38] TR News EFF: "How to Make Every Media With Free & Open-Source Software...Online via Zoom". LOL. https://www.eff.org/event/how-make-every-media-free-open-source-software [23:38] TR Bot How to Make Every Media With Free & Open-Source Software | Electronic Frontier Foundation [23:39] TR News Does only Russia have "Oligarchs"? Do they magically become "job creators" and "philanthropists" the moment they're naturalised American citizens? https://news.artnet.com/art-world/art-industry-news-march-14-2022-2084620 [23:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: artnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.artnet.com/art-world/art-industry-news-march-14-2022-2084620 [23:39] TR Bot Art Industry News: How Russian Oligarchs Helped Larry Gagosian Build His Gallery Empire + Other Stories [23:40] TR News "So this is just my functionally paranoid (the motto of OpenBSD, by the way) estimate of where things are. Ill describe two problems, one of which I call the trumpet problem, and the other is plain theft." https://ricochet.com/1207673/how-to-exfil-everything/ [23:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: ricochet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ricochet.com/1207673/how-to-exfil-everything/ [23:40] TR Bot to Exfil Everything Ricochet [23:47] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:47] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:54] TR News mozilla: Mozilla set to add AV1 video codec support to the Firefox browser - Times of India https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/mozilla-decides-to-add-av1-video-codec-support-to-the-firefox-browser/articleshow/90350833.cms patent trap [23:54] TR Bot mozilla: Mozilla set to add AV1 video codec support to the Firefox browser - Times of India [23:56] TR News "The LAMP tech stack is known to be the classic of stacks. It has been popular because it offers technologies that allow you to build web apps in a fast and stable manner." https://www.benzinga.com/opinion/22/03/26189633/tech-stack-what-is-it-and-how-to-choose-the-right-one-for-your-web-app-project [23:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: benzinga.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.benzinga.com/opinion/22/03/26189633/tech-stack-what-is-it-and-how-to-choose-the-right-one-for-your-web-app-project [23:56] TR Bot Stack: What Is It And How To Choose The Right One For Your Web App Project? | Benzinga [23:58] TR News "To validate words, it uses the GNU aspell Hindi dictionary. As such, the source code for Shabdle is licensed under GPLv2. The puzzle and keyboard are typeset in Laila by Indian Type Foundry." https://www.news18.com/news/tech/wordle-game-in-hindi-try-shabdle-hindi-word-guessing-game-and-how-to-play-4896923.html GPLv2 in 2022? GPLv3 out 15 years ago. [23:58] TR Bot Wordle Game In Hindi: Try Shabdle Hindi Word Guessing Game And How to Play [23:59] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162881 [23:59] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines