●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, May 22, 2021 ●● ● May 22 [00:00] opal spoke with sorcerer, he said the user was making up chat logs [00:00] opal so really one word against another [00:01] opal shrug [00:01] techrights-bot " #kiln is a simple static site generator with Gemini support. https://sr.ht/~adnano/kiln Version 0.2.0 brings a lot of changes and improvements." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006559.html #freesw #geminiSpace #geminiProtocol #internet [00:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 308 @ https://sr.ht/~adnano/kiln ) [00:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [users] kiln version 0.2.0 [00:02] schestowitz__ opal: sometimes you need to check which networks are run by adults/grown-ups [00:02] opal :D [00:02] schestowitz__ some things on the net are managed by the "shits and giggles" crowd [00:02] schestowitz__ they're the types you cannot trust with anything [00:02] opal yeah i see that [00:02] opal i'll keep playing along and see who cracks [00:02] opal someone will crack [00:02] schestowitz__ let alone run a site or develop a project for more than a single impulsive week [00:03] schestowitz__ BTW [00:03] schestowitz__ pleroma.site was offline after a drive crash [00:03] schestowitz__ with not a very good backup [00:03] schestowitz__ many false promises of repair [00:03] schestowitz__ and then finances used as excuse to keep it offline [00:03] schestowitz__ SoylentNews just lost the whole site [00:03] schestowitz__ and last backup was from April [00:04] schestowitz__ so they lost a month's worth of stories, comments, users... [00:04] schestowitz__ awful [00:04] opal im hosting my instance until i get stuff on volatile straightened away [00:04] schestowitz__ pleroma.fr also still offline [00:04] schestowitz__ also href [00:04] opal mhm [00:04] opal href's stats site is down too [00:04] schestowitz__ he had a tough year [00:05] schestowitz__ he told me [00:05] opal hope it gets better for him [00:05] schestowitz__ online in freenode [00:05] schestowitz__ everyone seems to still be on here, except kaniini [00:06] CrystalMath schestowitz__: i'm not leaving until freenode.net is unresonable [00:06] CrystalMath err [00:06] CrystalMath unresolvable [00:06] CrystalMath is what i meant to write [00:07] CrystalMath i'm not leaving until freenode.net is unresolvable (as a domain) [00:09] *AVRS (~AVRS@wikimedia/AVRS) has joined #techrights [00:09] schestowitz__ CrystalMath: makes sense [00:09] CrystalMath i will also never [00:09] schestowitz__ CrystalMath: upside: [00:09] CrystalMath join libera [00:09] schestowitz__ no more blog posts about this [00:09] schestowitz__ the discussion is almost over now [00:09] CrystalMath i mean i already connected but never permanently [00:09] schestowitz__ based on tons of RSS feeds [00:10] schestowitz__ so what didn't move is less likely to move [00:10] CrystalMath i've been spamming the lee-side.pdf hard everywhere [00:10] CrystalMath i posted it on every channel [00:10] schestowitz__ 6,000 people fetched the PDF of Andrew from techrights.org [00:10] CrystalMath i'm gonna send a letter to chief gnuisance as well [00:10] schestowitz__ that hopefully adds some balance [00:11] schestowitz__ in blogs I see it's always imbalanced [00:11] schestowitz__ people afraid to be seen as ungrateful to staff [00:11] schestowitz__ unlike "THAT FOREIGN SAUDI CROWN PRICE" [00:12] schestowitz__ the media is even worse [00:12] schestowitz__ egging on with that narrative [00:12] schestowitz__ and use partisan politics [00:12] schestowitz__ "Trumpian" or "Trumpist" [00:12] schestowitz__ (which is also false, afaik) [00:12] opal ok yeah correction about the staff pm [00:12] opal the dude who claimed he was threatened... he got banned from several channels here [00:12] opal just a troll [00:12] opal definitely not looking in his favour [00:13] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151462 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:13] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151461 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:14] schestowitz__ can't remember the last time we banned anybody [00:14] schestowitz__ except when freenode had spampedemics [00:15] XRevan86 https://gist.github.com/aaronmdjones/1a9a93ded5b7d162c3f58bdd66b8f491 [00:15] XRevan86 > (2021-05-11 17:54:16) rasengan: Hey Freenode Staff! Hope you're well. A message from the official board of Freenode Limited, owner of thefreenode IRC network: kevinp is in charge of infrastructure and has been legally resolved into this position by the board of Freenode. Please work with him to get his access and credentials in place smoothly. [00:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | My resignation from freenode GitHub [00:15] schestowitz__ brb coffee and feeding the fish [00:15] XRevan86 That's an important bit I previously overlooked. [00:16] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Are ye sure ye are not rushing to conclusions? [00:16] XRevan86 Backing a horse while not everything has been made clear. [00:16] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz The Computerworld article about Windows 10 21H1 is packed full of typos and pretty much goes on and on about nothing. [00:17] baronhk[m]1 IDG is pretty bad these days. [00:17] schestowitz__ typical enderle [00:17] schestowitz__ demented shill [00:17] CrystalMath XRevan86: honestly, even if freenode turns out bad, i will not go to libera [00:17] CrystalMath instead i will just stay on rizon [00:17] CrystalMath i wanted to leave freenode while the old staff was here [00:18] CrystalMath now that old freenode has left me [00:18] baronhk[m]1 He got basic facts about the Windows 10 GUI changes wrong and 10X cancelation. [00:18] CrystalMath and the new freenode is here, and it's so far good [00:18] schestowitz__ XRevan86: that was after the domain access dispute, I think [00:18] baronhk[m]1 The GUI update is coming later this year. [00:18] schestowitz__ maybe he was concerned about a takeover [00:18] schestowitz__ a hostile takeover [00:18] schestowitz__ from him [00:18] schestowitz__ technical takeover [00:18] schestowitz__ hence approached lawyers [00:18] baronhk[m]1 21H1 is more or less a placeholder release and it just cleans some things up. [00:19] schestowitz__ 'cleans' [00:19] MinceR H1N1? [00:19] CrystalMath XRevan86: Aaron Jones signed the anti-RMS petition, he is DEAD to me [00:19] baronhk[m]1 It's unlikely to break anything because it does not make deep changes to the operating system. [00:19] schestowitz__ I've not been keeping track of Vista10 [00:19] schestowitz__ but it seems awful from afar [00:19] CrystalMath XRevan86: i will not listen to even one of his lies [00:20] CrystalMath basically, if you sign the anti-RMS petition, everything you say is most likely a lie [00:20] baronhk[m]1 Your Phone Companion can be removed, but you have to do it with GetAppxPackage because the uninstall has been grayed out. [00:20] baronhk[m]1 That's by far one of the most annoying things. [00:20] baronhk[m]1 The update added more links to OneDrive but they did nothing on my computer because I had removed OneDrive, so I had to delete the shortcuts. [00:20] schestowitz__ /tmp/rms-open-letter.github.io$ git log | grep Aaron [00:20] schestowitz__ Author: Ben Aaron Goldberg [00:20] schestowitz__ Author: Aaron Marais [00:20] schestowitz__ Author: Aaron Niskode-Dossett [00:20] schestowitz__ Author: Aaron <37417949+brotheraaron@users.noreply.github.com> [00:20] schestowitz__ Add Aaron D Borden [00:20] schestowitz__ Author: Aaron D Borden [00:21] schestowitz__ Add Aaron D Borden [00:21] baronhk[m]1 Your Phone will use up about 300 MB of RAM to do terrible screen mirroring and constantly annoy you with desktop popups about texts and app spam on your phone. [00:21] schestowitz__ maybe added over email? [00:22] XRevan86 schestowitz__: Seems like it. [00:22] schestowitz__ by neil McGOVERNMENT? [00:22] *AVRS has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [00:23] baronhk[m]1 Oddly, Mail and Calendar can be removed through the GUI. [00:23] baronhk[m]1 It seems there's no rhyme or reason for what Microsoft lets you remove and what they don't and what they do but you have to know some command prompt-fu. [00:23] XRevan86 schestowitz__: But I think it's evident that the approach taken to resolve the conflict was to replace parts of the staff. [00:24] XRevan86 bypassing the Freenode procedure completely (not the Freenode, Ltd. procedure) [00:24] schestowitz__ git log -p | tail -n100000 | grep Aaron | grep Jones [00:24] schestowitz__ -1. Aaron Jones [00:24] schestowitz__ +1. Aaron Jones [00:24] schestowitz__ 1. Aaron Jones [00:24] schestowitz__ 1. Aaron Jones [00:24] schestowitz__ 1. Aaron Jones [00:24] schestowitz__ -1. Aaron Jones [00:24] schestowitz__ +1. Aaron Jones [00:24] schestowitz__ 1. Aaron Jones [00:25] schestowitz__ 1. Aaron Jones [00:25] schestowitz__ 1. Aaron Jones [00:25] schestowitz__ +1. Aaron Jones [00:25] schestowitz__ -1. Aaron Jones [00:25] schestowitz__ +1. Aaron Jones [00:26] schestowitz__ commit 60d422b3186a8e7811d2c809a224cbe67775b890 [00:26] schestowitz__ Author: Elana Hashman [00:26] schestowitz__ Date: Tue Mar 23 15:04:39 2021 -0700 [00:26] schestowitz__ early signing [00:26] schestowitz__ by Microsoft/Azure Hashman [00:26] XRevan86 schestowitz__: He definitely tried to do more than take back access to the registrar account. [00:28] baronhk[m]1 I think Edge isn't a terrible browser, but they definitely need to fix a few things. [00:28] schestowitz__ he as in Andrew? [00:28] schestowitz__ baronhk[m]1: technically? [00:28] schestowitz__ remember who controls it [00:28] schestowitz__ and many people add microsoft root access for it [00:28] baronhk[m]1 Technically, yeah, they do add some good features to Chrome. [00:28] schestowitz__ so they get to install any malware they want... [00:29] baronhk[m]1 Eh, Mozilla closed the bug to work on memory reduction through SegmentHeap. [00:29] baronhk[m]1 They continue to use the legacy NT Heap, and so Firefox GUZZLES memory. [00:29] MinceR i prefer Brave to Idiot Edgesploiter [00:29] XRevan86 schestowitz__: yea [00:30] baronhk[m]1 Brave and Vivaldi made good progress on bringing down RAM usage on Windows 10. [00:30] techrights-bot TIL: many overlaps between those who tried to crush the FSF (by picking on a person) and those who not try this on #freenode ... don't want to name any names though [00:30] baronhk[m]1 Vivaldi more than Brave. [00:30] MinceR replacing Backdoors10 with GNU/Linux makes even better progress at that [00:31] techrights-bot Tribalism and cliques inside #freenode ... I was warned about this a long time ago, but after the anti-RMS coup attempt http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights [00:31] baronhk[m]1 Biden continues chipping at his infrastructure bill to get Republican votes that aren't there. [00:31] baronhk[m]1 They're a unified front to try to crash his presidency into the rocks and it seems he doesn't get it. Half of them continue to claim that Trump won and was cheated. [00:32] baronhk[m]1 About a quarter of them side with the January 6th criminals. [00:33] search_social i would hardly call the republicans a unified front considering that half of them claim trump didn't win [00:34] search_social in fact that's pretty much the definition of a NOT unified front [00:34] techrights-bot #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151463 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:35] *AVRS (~AVRS@wikimedia/AVRS) has joined #techrights [00:37] baronhk[m]1 They're unified in that they want Biden to fail. [00:40] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151465 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [00:41] techrights-bot Linux #Kernel and #Graphics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151464 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel and Graphics | Tux Machines [00:41] techrights-bot Links 22/5/2021: #antiX 19.4, #Perl 5.34.0, and #Wine 6.9 Released http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/antix-19-4/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/21/antix-19-4/ [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/5/2021: antiX 19.4, Perl 5.34.0, and Wine 6.9 Released | Techrights [00:43] schestowitz__ baronhk[m]1: no [00:43] schestowitz__ they want the country to fail [00:43] schestowitz__ so more unemployed racists will vote GOPKKK [00:44] schestowitz__ insurrections don't work the first time around [00:44] schestowitz__ they try again and again [00:44] schestowitz__ until they succeed [00:44] schestowitz__ or sucede [00:45] schestowitz__ secede [00:45] schestowitz__ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession#Secession_movements [00:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Secession - Wikipedia [00:45] baronhk[m]1 The Democrats are doing a fine job of pushing voters to the right, [00:45] baronhk[m]1 Hyperinflation, letting criminals who rape and murder 6 year olds out of prison early to live in Chicago, backing people who set your car on fire. [00:45] baronhk[m]1 How could this possibly go wrong for them? [00:46] Redfoxmoon picking a provably corrupt senile old man who's got one leg in the grave already too [00:46] Redfoxmoon mmm, isn't it wonderful. [00:46] baronhk[m]1 After witnessing Pritzker's reforms, there's no way I can possibly support him as Governor of Illinois again. [00:47] baronhk[m]1 He was governing as a dictator, suspending whatever laws he felt like. Renewing "emergency powers" that the law only gave him for 30 days, for 14 months and counting. [00:48] baronhk[m]1 The text of the Illinois Emergency Management Act is pretty clear. The legislative intent was that if an emergency lasted more than 30 days, they would have to meet and decide whether to pass a law authorizing renewal, but none of them wanted to take a vote on it. [00:49] techrights-bot A quarter of all #UMN patches are defects/sabotage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29724 #linux #kernel #sabotage [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Heres Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines [00:49] Redfoxmoon sounds very democratic party [00:49] techrights-bot Firefox Nightly: These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 94 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2021/05/21/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-94/ #mozilla #firefox [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nightly.mozilla.org | These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 94 Firefox Nightly News [00:50] baronhk[m]1 Yeah, the state court system is pretty fucked up. [00:50] baronhk[m]1 The FOID Act has been struck down twice now, but you still need a FOID card. [00:50] baronhk[m]1 Until this gets to the US Supreme Court and they gut it. [00:50] baronhk[m]1 We'll get there eventually, but probably not for a couple of years. [00:50] Redfoxmoon FOID act? [00:51] techrights-bot Wave of #ibm layoffs next week? (Un)Substantiated rumour? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aWJp96w#replies [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | So what's going on? - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:51] baronhk[m]1 The Illinois state government requires you to apply for and receive a FOID card to buy, sell, or possess firearms or ammunition, which is interference with constitutional rights granted by both the state and federal constitutions. [00:51] Redfoxmoon oic [00:51] baronhk[m]1 Neither of which say that the second amendment expires and needs to be renewed for a fee every 10 years. [00:52] Redfoxmoon mm gotta love unconstitutional laws [00:52] Redfoxmoon so many american democrats would surely love it in a bunch of western european countries [00:52] baronhk[m]1 Unfortunately, thanks to SCOTUS math that deferred to the states for all these years, FOID has been around forever even though a quarter of a million Illinoisans (mostly in Chicago) have been shot since it was enacted. [00:52] baronhk[m]1 And mostly by guns that were never in the FOID system. [00:53] Redfoxmoon of course [00:53] Redfoxmoon "whats that? the CRIMINALS DONT OBAY THE LAW?" [00:53] Redfoxmoon "THATS ILLEGAL GOOD SIR." [00:53] schestowitz__ they might overturn wade soon [00:53] Redfoxmoon -1 IQ. [00:53] schestowitz__ or rather revisit [00:53] schestowitz__ welcome, poland [00:53] baronhk[m]1 Overturning Roe wouldn't make abortion illegal. It would make it illegal in 22 states. [00:54] schestowitz__ that's bad too [00:54] baronhk[m]1 That's less than half the states and slightly under a third of the US population. [00:54] baronhk[m]1 It's already functionally illegal in most of those 22 states anyway. [00:55] baronhk[m]1 So the situation doesn't change much. They've regulated all but 1 or 2 clinics out of the state and even then it's so hard to get one that it already is often easier to go to another state and shop a different legal system. [00:55] baronhk[m]1 Indiana only has like 2-3 clinics left I think and most people just drive to Illinois. [00:55] baronhk[m]1 State line abortion clinics will become even more of a thing. [00:56] liberty_box https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-57207961 [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Whipsnade Zoo: Brown bears shot dead after enclosure escape - BBC News [00:56] baronhk[m]1 Wisconsin made it so difficult to get an abortion that a Planned Parenthood opened in Waukegan last year. Right over the border. [00:56] techrights-bot If those were humans, they wouldn't have shot them. But... you know, priorities and all. Bears "don't count"... behind bars, now under the ground. For being liberated for a little bit. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-57207961 [00:56] baronhk[m]1 You can pretty much just get an Uber or take the train down for the day and then go back when you're done. [00:57] baronhk[m]1 We're already 90% of the way post-Roe. [00:57] Redfoxmoon stuff like this should be fixed w/ changes to the states' laws [00:57] baronhk[m]1 In fact, I was talking to my ex about how insane the entire idea of re-litigating this is because the courts have already let things go this far. [00:57] Redfoxmoon not bludging it through the supreme court [00:58] baronhk[m]1 Women sometimes give up and order abortion pills off of an app. [00:58] baronhk[m]1 There's an app where you can subscribe to the birth control pill for $15 a month without insurance. [00:58] baronhk[m]1 Some doctor you never see keep refilling it. [00:58] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151466 #Linux #TuxMachines [00:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:59] baronhk[m]1 Well, I'm just not sure how it ever gets so far that people need an abortion. [00:59] baronhk[m]1 You could just stack contraceptive methods so that they're so unlikely to all fail that you may as well not give it any thought. ● May 22 [01:00] baronhk[m]1 The fact that there's women out there who have had 3-4 abortions is just a testimony to how dumb people are. [01:01] baronhk[m]1 If they used the pill and made the guy wear a condom, or a condom and an ovulation predictor, or a pill and a sponge, or you know. Redundancy. [01:02] *downey[i] (sid10506@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxxsrkcvxqbjnguw) has left #techrights [01:03] baronhk[m]1 Most of the reason abortion is down seems to be because teen pregnancy especially and pregnancy in general is down. [01:04] baronhk[m]1 Planned Parenthood's finances weren't looking that good already. 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[01:05] alextee liberia? [01:05] baronhk[m]1 Stallman puts petitions on his site that just lead to a lot of spam. [01:05] MinceR they can't spell [01:06] baronhk[m]1 The tax law is basically set up so that you can deduct charitable donations, but it doesn't make sense to unless you itemize, which only the rich do. [01:06] CrystalMath pinging the mods before starting the spam, that sounds dumb [01:06] MinceR i doubt they're really looking for people to join their stupid channel [01:07] MinceR they're trying to annoy people [01:07] MinceR and masshighlights do that [01:08] kingoffrance yeah this stuff was a thing past year or two, freenode has moved to x [01:08] kingoffrance im sure you could find it in logs [01:08] baronhk[m]1 The NRA bankruptcy abuse case flopped. [01:09] baronhk[m]1 The judge ruled that their reason for filing bankruptcy was not primarily due to good faith debt that they couldn't pay, but rather to gain the upper hand in an ongoing legal dispute. [01:09] baronhk[m]1 The NRA is useless. [01:10] baronhk[m]1 They suck up a lot of the gun rights money because everyone donates to them, but they spend very little of it effectively challenging anything. [01:10] baronhk[m]1 It's not the NRA that's out to have the Illinois FOID Act thrown out. When that happens, it will be the Illinois State Rifle Association that backed the suit that led to this. [01:10] baronhk[m]1 So oddly enough, I'm pro-second amendment but I hope New York does cause the NRA to collapse. [01:11] baronhk[m]1 People will join state rifle associations and give them their money and those associations will use it to sue the crap out of the state in a legal system they actually understand. [01:12] baronhk[m]1 New York would be dealing gun owners a much bigger blow by allowing Wayne LaPierre to continue running the NRA like his own personal piggybank instead of fighting to get gun laws changed. [01:13] baronhk[m]1 A dollar people donate to the NRA instead of ISRA means a dollar that Wayne spends on another boat instead of trying to gut the FOID Act. [01:13] baronhk[m]1 The NRA is the televangelists of gun groups. [01:13] MinceR or they'll spend it on ads that attack video games or movies [01:13] baronhk[m]1 They get your money because Jesus and meanwhile in the backroom it's private planes, hookers, and blow. [01:14] baronhk[m]1 Which is oddly the exact stance on video games that the Democrats have. [01:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 43.51 swarm size (avg): 226.00 [01:27] *opal has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:28] *opal (~wowaname@volatile/founder/wowaname) has joined #techrights [01:47] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:47] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:50] XRevan86 (00:36:47) velix: Joanna: I've visited #freenode some hours before to report massive spam and ugly messages about child abuse. 2500 users in there, no response. [01:50] XRevan86 opal, rasengan: Is the new staff in #freenode? [01:51] opal ya [01:54] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:56] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● May 22 [02:01] baronhk[m]1 Microsoft is packing so much crap into the taskbar. [02:01] baronhk[m]1 I keep having to back it out. [02:01] *namarrgo1 (~namarrgon@2001:ac8:9a:9::b47d) has joined #techrights [02:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.30 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.16 swarm size (avg): 226.06 [02:34] *spooner (4cca73a4@76.202.115.164) has joined #techrights [02:37] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210521.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210521.txt Read the log now... [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Friday, May 21, 2021 [02:38] CrystalMath check out my new part message [02:38] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has left #techrights ("The former freenode staff are lying to you! 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[02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Friday, May 21, 2021 [02:41] CrystalMath MinceR: maybe i should make a universal quit message :P [02:41] CrystalMath it would go like this... "You know that thing everyone is doing now? Don't do that, it's a trap" [02:41] CrystalMath it would spare me from having to change it all the time :P [02:41] MinceR lol [02:42] MinceR everyone is breathing, it's a trap [02:43] CrystalMath i just mean, find the latest trend and store into x, print "don't do" + x [02:43] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-05-21.txt [02:43] baronhk[m]1 MARISOL got ruined by the Bitcoin plunge. [02:44] baronhk[m]1 Throwing lots of money at it and telling everyone how smart she was because it only goes up. [02:45] baronhk[m]1 Windows is actually far less obnoxious since I purged that Your Phone Companion app. [02:45] baronhk[m]1 You can blow away a lot of the bloatware, but it keeps trying to push things on you. [02:46] baronhk[m]1 Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. A lot of what appears on your desktop is just useless chatter. [02:47] baronhk[m]1 MinceR: schestowitz__ Microsoft Edge is enlightening in a couple ways. [02:48] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21032815 [02:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5353374) [02:48] baronhk[m]1 1. Microsoft has clearly lost confidence in their Windows Store and AppX, even though they won't admit it. Even on Windows 10, Edge isn't packaged as AppX. [02:48] baronhk[m]1 2. They dumped it in Program Files (x86) even though it's a 64-bit program. [02:49] MinceR lol [02:49] MinceR why [02:49] baronhk[m]1 That violates the convention of putting 32-bit software there and 64-bit in Program Files. [02:50] XRevan86 maybe they realised they're both x86? :) [02:50] XRevan86 And now will put RISC-V software into Program Files maybe [02:50] MinceR lol [02:50] MinceR they used to be deluded into believing that x86_64 was called "x64" [02:51] MinceR (which seems to fit alpha better) [02:51] MinceR (21064) [02:53] XRevan86 MinceR: It was obvious from the beginning that that convention won't age well, except to Microsoft and Oracle of course. [02:53] MinceR :> [02:53] *jameshjacks0njr has quit () [02:56] XRevan86 They called an IA-64 version of Windows XP as 64-bit but when they had to present a x86-64 version something in them broke and they called it x64 [02:56] XRevan86 The Intel x architecture? [02:56] MinceR lol [02:56] MinceR only intel knows what's in it [02:56] MinceR ...and the NSA [02:56] XRevan86 MinceR: It's actually a 3 [02:57] XRevan86 or rather {3,4,5,6} [02:57] baronhk[m]1 IA-64 was as much of an engineering fail as it was a pricing and marketing fail. [02:57] MinceR earlier versions are also often referred to as x86 [02:57] MinceR baronhk[m]1: how so? [02:57] baronhk[m]1 Incompatibility with x86. [02:58] XRevan86 x in x86 means i386, i486, i586, so that's that [02:58] MinceR that's a problem only in windowsland [02:58] XRevan86 ix86 x86 x [02:58] baronhk[m]1 It had compatibility either through an x86 core or emulation depending on which one you bought. [02:58] MinceR XRevan86: [citation needed] [02:58] baronhk[m]1 But it was very slow. [02:59] MinceR 8086, 80186, 80286, 80386 [02:59] XRevan86 MinceR: Right, it means all the others too [02:59] XRevan86 it's a digit is what I'm saying ● May 22 [03:01] XRevan86 except that for x86-64 there's no real digit there, but maybe it's imaginary? [03:01] MinceR :> [03:01] MinceR is that what the 'i' stands for? :> [03:02] *oarion7 (anonymous@gateway/vpn/airvpn/oarion7) has joined #techrights [03:02] MinceR "we rotated the socket by 90 degrees" [03:02] XRevan86 MinceR: No, it means 80 %) [03:02] MinceR :> [03:02] MinceR 80ntel 80nside [03:03] CrystalMath it's called amd64 [03:03] CrystalMath :P [03:04] baronhk[m]1 The Intel version is called Intel64. [03:04] XRevan86 Why are we talking about Itanium again? [03:04] MinceR lol [03:04] *MinceR removes ban on *!*@2a0d:5600:24:ab7::b18d [03:05] MinceR intel originally called it "EM64T", and later realized that nobody is going to memorize that and renamed it to "Intel 64" [03:05] MinceR apparently it took them 2 years to realize that [03:06] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 100354 total Total pages: 35644 Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-03-26 00:17:05 GMT; 1 months 26 days ago [03:06] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.0 GB TotalOut: 576 MB [03:06] techrights-ipfs New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:06] techrights-ipfs QmXhBpXcrZwjc7VVdcE7wWLJf6JB9XGtQ4wccZ7H8uf6pe [03:06] XRevan86 MinceR: Honeslty, it's easier for me to memorise "EM64T" than to memorise which one's which. [03:06] XRevan86 between IA-64 and Intel 64 [03:06] MinceR lol [03:06] MinceR it's easy [03:06] XRevan86 the name that sounds more like a marketing name is newer? [03:06] MinceR IA32 is x86 (or 386), IA64 is itanium [03:07] MinceR (or itanic) [03:07] XRevan86 that's a good mnemonic rule indeed [03:07] MinceR iirc the whole IA* thing comes from back when intel didn't think they'll need to license AMD64 [03:08] XRevan86 The x86-32 and x86-64 versions of the name are definitely more universal. [03:08] MinceR then they went around telling everyone that the itanic is never going to have economy of scale (plus you're supposed to run windows anyway), and oh wow, it failed in the market [03:08] XRevan86 and IA-32 is fine too as it's unambiguous and simple [03:08] MinceR i haven't encountered "x86-32" before [03:09] MinceR still, i suspect that producing a successor that could execute more instructions in parallel would have been incompatible [03:09] MinceR and so everyone would have to recompile everything for it [03:10] XRevan86 MinceR: It's a reasonable generaliasation of the newer naming scheme: x86-16 (IA-32), x86-32 (IA-64), x86-64 (AMD64). [03:10] MinceR this industry doesn't do "reasonable", especially intel :> [03:11] XRevan86 MinceR: They don't sell IA-16 and IA-32 anymore either. [03:11] XRevan86 I know that AMD recently was still selling some IA-16 for legacy embedded, but that's probably discountinued by now. [03:15] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [03:16] XRevan86 although those aren't really x86-16 as they're darn bloody 80188's [03:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.70 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 49.35 swarm size (avg): 226.12 [03:20] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [03:21] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:25] baronhk[m]1 This may explain why there's only one Edge installed where there were two Internet Explorers. [03:25] baronhk[m]1 The AnyCPU feature of Visual Studio basically creates a fat binary. [03:25] baronhk[m]1 So you could run it on either a 32-bit or 64-bit CPU and the program will still run. [03:26] XRevan86 baronhk[m]1: Are ye sure it's not because they didn't want to maintain compatibility with 32-bit toolbars and modules? [03:27] baronhk[m]1 Edge would be a 32-bit application if ran on the 32-bit version of Windows. [03:27] baronhk[m]1 This basically lets them compile it once for all Windows systems it runs on. [03:27] XRevan86 baronhk[m]1: There's no point though. [03:28] MinceR well, they like bloat [03:28] MinceR making your executable twice as big could be seen as desirable :> [03:28] XRevan86 It's not like a user would actually take that executable and move it to a different system. [03:29] XRevan86 they're more likely to literally do nothing since that motherbucker will sideload onto their Windows all by itself [03:29] baronhk[m]1 Not on Windows 7 and 8. [03:29] XRevan86 and since the default installer is online, it can just pick the architecture while downloading [03:30] *includeals has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [03:31] XRevan86 baronhk[m]1: O.K., the poor sod that for some reason wants MSEdge will get an installer instead of copying the files anyway. [03:31] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:31] XRevan86 on Windows 7 [03:31] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-132-125.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [03:32] XRevan86 Either the online installer that will pick the architecture during installation or the offline installer that is intended for "advanced" users and has not one but three drop-down menus to choose from. [03:33] XRevan86 And they'd still need the "platform" drop-down menu for GNU/Linux, macOS and Windows aarch64 [03:33] XRevan86 even if they join together Windows IA-32 and Windows x86-64 [03:34] XRevan86 baronhk[m]1: In other words, this would serve no purpose but to waste space on everyone's drive. [03:34] XRevan86 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/seagates-new-mach-2-is-the-worlds-fastest-conventional-hard-drive/ weird [03:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Seagates new Mach.2 is the worlds fastest conventional hard drive | Ars Technica [03:35] MinceR maybe the idea is that the user wants to download Idiot Edgesploiter and is too much of an idiot to know whether they have an x86_64 cpu [03:35] MinceR and with a fat binary, that doesn't matter [03:35] XRevan86 MinceR: So they pick the "arm64" version because that's x64 too [03:35] namarrgo1 alynpost xgqt cybrNaut schestowitz_log esaym153 balrog saint_dogbert Chaekyung birkoff qa5 rasengan Redfoxmoon TechrightsBot-tr LarchOye BifrostBot[m] schestowitz__ slep mjg59 kingoffrance Old_Man prurigro kermit MinceR alextee[m] avoidr rianne huggi_ vallor wallacer IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #LIBERIA [03:35] namarrgo1 namarrgo1 trttl buzzert acer-box______ search_social openJ alextee sbp danielinux rMdes DiffieHellman mekkis techrights-bot zoobab hook54321 Glyphie44____ includeals baronhk[m] sepsinn XFaCE Techrights-sec Snuupy DVulgaris XRevan86 tessier techrights-ipfs opal rsheftel14 IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #LIBERIA [03:35] namarrgo1 spooner rianne_ Condor kgz baronhk[m]1 CrystalMath wineroots GNUmoon liberty_box lockeanarchist whytek notanamber[m] asusbox2 inky swaggboi hvxgr viera oarion7 ohama cubexyz libertybox__ lavender- AVRS smnthermes ChanServ scientes psydroid phebus IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #LIBERIA [03:35] CrystalMath MinceR [03:36] *MinceR sets ban on *!*@2001:ac8:9a:9::b47d [03:36] *MinceR has kicked namarrgo1 from #techrights (die) [03:36] CrystalMath liberians again [03:36] MinceR from africa? [03:36] CrystalMath MinceR: it literally says "#liberia" [03:36] MinceR XRevan86: :) [03:36] CrystalMath not "#libera".... [03:36] MinceR i know, they said "LIBERIA" before [03:37] XRevan86 The spammers probably find that allusion funny. [03:37] CrystalMath i wonder if it's a joke or idk [03:37] CrystalMath XRevan86: ah [03:37] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Clearly these spammers are dead-serious [03:37] XRevan86 about the Jews, the CP and Liberia, all serious [03:38] XRevan86 and trustworthy as always [03:38] MinceR and law-abiding [03:50] alextee https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/google-docs-write-gender-neutral-terms [03:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbusiness.com | Google Docs to suggest users write using gender-neutral terms | Fox Business [03:53] saint_dogbert Just because of that gender nonsense, I go out of my way to assign gender to inanimate objects... [03:53] MinceR are you going to switch to german? :> [03:54] saint_dogbert Ja [03:57] XRevan86 > Google Docs should suggest gender-neutral terms in romance languages, where even inanimate objects are either feminine or masculine and there's no way around it. LOL [03:58] XRevan86 This commenter should be grateful that Google doesn't suggest to them use of a more inclusive language. [03:58] XRevan86 saint_dogbert: Ships and swords, right? [03:59] XRevan86 Has anyone tried to use "they" towards a ship or a sword? ● May 22 [04:00] saint_dogbert Good luck convincing any sailor to call his ship a 'They' [04:00] saint_dogbert It's always she or he [04:00] MinceR i'll call ships 'it' [04:01] XRevan86 saint_dogbert: any sailor but "his"? ay-yiay-yiay [04:02] saint_dogbert :D [04:05] XRevan86 MinceR: Apparently there are simply some unavoidable sexual undertones to sailing. [04:06] XRevan86 Also swordspersonship and being a mechanic [04:06] MinceR or people want english to be less clean, less logical and more complex [04:08] XRevan86 MinceR: That ship has sailed [04:08] MinceR what was that ship called? [04:09] saint_dogbert Critical Theory [04:09] MinceR doesn't sound female to me :> [04:09] saint_dogbert :D [04:09] XRevan86 MinceR: Mrs. Clean Logical Simplicity [04:11] *includeals has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [04:12] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [04:12] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [04:12] XRevan86 Never read it was, a mirage. [04:13] XRevan86 Never real it was, a mirage. [04:14] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [04:14] MinceR there's a reason some people say english is a creole [04:15] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzyhqtbNWKw [04:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mirage - YouTube [04:16] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-132-125.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [04:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 36.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 62.71 swarm size (avg): 226.18 [04:18] XRevan86 MinceR: Creoles are typically very clean, logical and simple as they have no baggage of complexity and sophistication. [04:19] CrystalMath XRevan86: not quite true [04:19] CrystalMath yes, they're usually simple, but they still have historic stuff that is unexplainable by the simple rules [04:20] MinceR https://web.archive.org/web/20210419135834/http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4710 [04:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | English is a Scandinavian language? Armed and Dangerous [04:20] XRevan86 They're also more redundant in expression due to an almost complete lack of synthetic features. [04:21] CrystalMath what do you call synthetic features? [04:21] CrystalMath if you mean like synthetic languages... most are [04:21] CrystalMath they're just slightly less synthetic [04:23] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I mean in a broader sense. [04:23] XRevan86 creoles are more likely to say big-big than bigger [04:26] MinceR https://web.archive.org/web/20170115203737im_/http://www.winterson.com/pics2/botw18.jpg [04:26] MinceR https://web.archive.org/web/20210420201410/http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7465 [04:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Four modes of creole formation Armed and Dangerous [04:26] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [04:26] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [04:28] baronhk[m]1 Apple does this whenever they change architectures so there's no confusion about which binary to get. [04:33] XRevan86 baronhk[m]1: Ye mentioned a specific scenario, and I explained why that wouldn't make sense. [04:39] *namarrgo1 (~namarrgon@2606:2e00:8007:1::a32d) has joined #techrights [04:40] baronhk[m]1 Some people were shooting at each other outside. [04:40] baronhk[m]1 Called the cops. [04:40] *oarion7 (anonymous@gateway/vpn/airvpn/oarion7) has joined #techrights [04:41] XRevan86 I was surprised until I saw who wrote that. [04:42] MinceR :> [04:44] *spooner has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [04:46] namarrgo1 prurigro ohama xgqt asusbox2 kgz wineroots DVulgaris Condor namarrgo1 huggi_ lockeanarchist LarchOye viera cybrNaut qa5 wallacer includeals liberty_box rianne esaym153 techrights-bot sbp MinceR rianne_ alynpost habaner0 balrog Old_Man XFaCE kingoffrance rasengan kermit IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #LIBERIA [04:46] namarrgo1 alextee[m] Chaekyung schestowitz__ swaggboi birkoff psydroid techrights-ipfs Snuupy oarion7 search_social smnthermes saint_dogbert Glyphie44____ openJ sepsinn GNUmoon whytek rsheftel14 zoobab opal tessier libertybox__ acer-box______ Techrights-sec CrystalMath notanamber[m] IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #LIBERIA [04:46] namarrgo1 alextee TechrightsBot-tr scientes rMdes avoidr AVRS danielinux slep buzzert hvxgr lavender- schestowitz_log mekkis inky phebus hook54321 Redfoxmoon ChanServ baronhk[m]1 BifrostBot[m] baronhk[m] mjg59 vallor XRevan86 trttl DiffieHellman IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #LIBERIA [04:46] CrystalMath MinceR [04:46] *MinceR sets ban on *!*@2606:2e00:8007:1::a32d [04:46] *MinceR has kicked namarrgo1 from #techrights (die) [04:46] MinceR maybe i should mute unregistered users [04:47] MinceR i'll need to sleep at some point [04:47] CrystalMath yeah [04:47] Snuupy MinceR: please don't allow unreg users to talk in this chan [04:47] Snuupy I think it's +R [04:47] MinceR it's more complicated here, iirc [04:47] CrystalMath +q $~a [04:48] CrystalMath simplest [04:48] saint_dogbert someone sure is desperate to get people to join that net network [04:48] MinceR or to stir up conflict between irc networks and users [04:48] *MinceR sets mode +q #techrights $~a [04:49] CrystalMath saint_dogbert: yeah i think the "liberia" kinda makes me think no [04:49] CrystalMath it's not that [04:49] CrystalMath it's some regular trolls who hate both networks [04:49] MinceR the "your noob ircd" phrase also suggested that (earlier) [04:49] CrystalMath maybe they like discord or something [04:49] MinceR since freenode and libera use closely related ircds [04:49] CrystalMath MinceR: we got it on LunarIRC which is totally different [04:49] CrystalMath same message [04:49] MinceR :> [04:50] MinceR it seems only unrealircd and inspircd have the spamfilter feature, which is a pity [04:51] saint_dogbert In truth, its probably some reject thats spent a few years nursing a grudge against freenode for some imaginary crime [04:52] CrystalMath or someone actually removed from freenode for an imaginary crime [04:52] CrystalMath the old staff was ruthless [04:52] MinceR indeed [04:52] saint_dogbert Tell me about it. [04:53] saint_dogbert I upset one staffer and he used his authority to get my ops status in several channels removed [04:53] saint_dogbert back in... 2011? ● May 22 [05:01] alextee lol someone said [05:01] alextee >touching a file is sexual assault [05:01] MinceR lol [05:02] saint_dogbert lol [05:02] MinceR you laugh, but someone is going to take it seriously [05:02] alextee i am sure of it [05:02] saint_dogbert Got a name to go with that comment? I need to submit that to bash [05:02] MinceR maybe it will be part of a slog against unix, in favor of systemd [05:05] CrystalMath saint_dogbert: eh, 2011 is before the ex-freenode staff [05:05] CrystalMath that was ex-ex-staff [05:05] CrystalMath these just kline you for 1 bad word [05:07] alextee saint_dogbert, "Anonymous" [05:10] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: The former freenode staff are lying to you! Support Andrew Lee! | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf) [05:32] schestowitz__ Liberia LOL [05:32] schestowitz__ no better endorsement than SPAM [05:33] schestowitz__ network for vandals and rascals [05:34] saint_dogbert Founded by liars and misfits for liars and misfits [05:34] saint_dogbert if the rumors are true anyway [05:34] schestowitz__ maybe too broad a generalisation [05:35] saint_dogbert How would you characterize the founders and current residents? [05:35] schestowitz__ in Liberia [sic]? [05:35] schestowitz__ Is there one founder or leader there? [05:35] schestowitz__ seems like a collective [05:36] *MinceR removes ban on *!*@2001:ac8:9a:9::b47d [05:36] saint_dogbert George Tawlon Manneh Oppong Ousman Weah [05:36] saint_dogbert Current president of Liberia [05:38] saint_dogbert If you mean Libre whatever, rumor is Tomaw is in charge [05:39] schestowitz__ I assumed so [05:39] schestowitz__ because he was voted to lead while in freenode [05:42] saint_dogbert I guess he is supposed to own the network and have some kind of partial ownership or lease of the servers aiding that network. Do you have better info on that? [05:42] saint_dogbert I haven't really followed the drama, but it seems to be in nearly every channel [05:45] schestowitz__ if they spam, it might... [05:45] schestowitz__ I didn't think it would come to this... [05:45] schestowitz__ brb coffee [05:46] schestowitz__ I also need to work on a long article after that, back to serious things, wish we didn't have to fight over the network [05:47] saint_dogbert Let them have their little utopia. Whomever wishes to follow will do so. [05:48] saint_dogbert Freenode isn't going to disappear because some staffers that hoped to inherit the network found out they never will [05:48] saint_dogbert and threw a hellacious hissy fit over it [05:50] schestowitz__ yup [05:51] *schestowitz__ back with coffee... to writing ● May 22 [06:09] alextee the #libera channel in lebera.chat says in the topic: The spam on other networks isn't us -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job [06:12] saint_dogbert With the run-ins I've had with some of them, they could tell me the time of day and I'd still check the nearest clock. [06:16] psydroid of all the Germanic languages I know and speak English is the one that stands out the most as being different, just like French in the family of Romance languages [06:19] schestowitz__ ddos attack [06:19] schestowitz__ on us [06:20] schestowitz__ staved off now [06:28] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@2601:140:887f:bad0::ff0c) has left #techrights ("WeeChat 3.1") [06:33] *danielinux has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [06:46] *MinceR removes ban on *!*@2606:2e00:8007:1::a32d [06:49] *swaggboi has quit (Quit: C-x C-c) [06:51] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [06:55] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights ● May 22 [07:00] schestowitz__ ok, done articles.. [07:00] schestowitz__ hopefully all back to 'normal' today [07:00] schestowitz__ sans that spam from "liberia" [07:00] *tagglink has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:01] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [07:05] schestowitz__ > My diaspora timeline felt too sparse and quiet. [07:05] schestowitz__ > [07:05] schestowitz__ > Turns out I haven't got any posts from you for almost 30 hours. [07:05] schestowitz__ > [07:05] schestowitz__ > That's very very unusual. [07:05] schestowitz__ > [07:05] schestowitz__ > I hope you're all right. [07:05] schestowitz__ > [07:05] schestowitz__ > With friendly concern, [07:05] schestowitz__ There was a temporary issue, also with Twitter exports. Is it OK now? [07:13] *kakama (~kakama@heelys.club) has joined #techrights [07:16] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [07:16] *oarion7 (anonymous@gateway/vpn/airvpn/oarion7) has joined #techrights [07:20] schestowitz__ kakama: hi [07:32] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [07:46] schestowitz__ https://freenode.net/ [07:46] schestowitz__ looks OK [07:46] schestowitz__ the Shells logo is not so prominent [07:46] schestowitz__ hard to see why THAT much fuss [07:47] schestowitz__ https://freenode.net/people [07:47] schestowitz__ " [07:47] schestowitz__ kloeri is head of infrastructure, in charge of making sure that the network continues to run in a usable fashion and that we have the right hardware and server platforms in place to provide the services we want. [07:47] schestowitz__ ilbelkyr is head of IRCd and services development, in charge of the software platforms that we use to run the network. [07:47] schestowitz__ Swant is head of web development, in charge of the websites and web services we provide. [07:47] schestowitz__ tomaw is head of staffing, projects and communities and also the overall project lead in charge of the other heads. [07:47] schestowitz__ " [07:47] schestowitz__ are they all gone? [07:48] schestowitz__ https://freenode.net/acknowledgements thanks GNU [07:50] *schestowitz__ is now known as schestowitz [07:50] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [07:50] schestowitz it now looks like in order to register I did need to provide an email address [07:50] schestowitz so it's not a new requirement [07:51] schestowitz syntax a decade or more ago: /nickserv register PASSWORD EMAIL [07:54] trttl can confirm. when i regged this nick 6 years ago i had to provide an email [07:55] trttl >hard to see why THAT much fuss - that was just an arbitrary casus belli. the pia logo had been there at the exact same place for years and no one had a problem with it ● May 22 [08:01] trttl andrew lee mentions this in his pdf and you can verify it with wayback machine or w/e [08:04] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ads-freenode.png [08:04] schestowitz 2013 [08:04] schestowitz PIA [08:05] schestowitz or LTM [08:10] trttl ltm is/was the parent company of pia no? [08:10] trttl https://web.archive.org/web/20160623060428/http://freenode.net/ [08:10] trttl see the top right corner [08:13] schestowitz I move all the way to 2021 [08:13] schestowitz and there is no top bar [08:13] schestowitz on the slidebar [08:14] schestowitz oh wait [08:14] schestowitz it's obscured by the slider [08:14] schestowitz https://web.archive.org/web/20210521214004/https://freenode.net/ [08:14] schestowitz Shells [08:14] schestowitz 10th of May [08:15] schestowitz Also here: https://web.archive.org/web/20210520182521/https://freenode.net/ [08:15] trttl yeah just zap that wayback toolbar div [08:15] schestowitz 18th https://web.archive.org/web/20210518142310/https://freenode.net/ [08:16] schestowitz April https://web.archive.org/web/20210414175845/https://freenode.net/ [08:16] schestowitz Shells logo there [08:16] schestowitz so it goes further back than I thought [08:17] schestowitz and indeed it said PIA in 2016 [08:17] schestowitz so now it points to his brother's business [08:17] schestowitz so a placement/ads isn't a new thing at all [08:17] schestowitz 5+ years [08:18] schestowitz https://web.archive.org/web/20150621211049/http://freenode.net/ [08:18] schestowitz even MORE prominent [08:19] schestowitz see the PIA logo in 2015 [08:19] schestowitz bigger than the freenode logo (almost) [08:19] schestowitz over time the ad shrank [08:21] schestowitz 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20140622005721/http://freenode.net/ [08:21] schestowitz osc+pia 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/20130618132435/http://freenode.net/ [08:23] schestowitz Canonical: https://web.archive.org/web/20110616212745/http://freenode.net/ [08:25] schestowitz 2008: https://web.archive.org/web/20080509092721/http://freenode.net/ [08:25] schestowitz 3 ads [08:26] schestowitz 2005: https://web.archive.org/web/20050511002931/http://freenode.net/ [08:26] schestowitz one ad [08:32] schestowitz Freenode Ads/Company Banners Are a 2-Decade Tradition Which Predates PIA/LTM [08:33] schestowitz I will do a quick post [08:33] schestowitz to dispel revisionist history [08:33] *tagglink has quit (Quit: Quit) [08:33] schestowitz looks like rasengan and now his brother have long held freenode in shape that's sustainable [08:34] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [08:39] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [08:39] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:42] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:43] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:48] schestowitz trttl: there. http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-ads/ [08:50] trttl good post [08:53] *schestowitz gives voice to techrights-bot [08:53] schestowitz testing [08:53] *schestowitz gives voice to TechrightsBot-tr [08:54] techrights-bot The Boards of Appeal have been robbed and have lost their independence because #EPO President, which theyre supposed to decide on, actually controls them http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/appeal-for-independence/ #Techrights #europe #patents| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/appeal-for-independence/ [08:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Appeal for Independence | Techrights [08:54] techrights-bot "Upon user request browsers have to check these agreed upon locations, download the signed file, possibly download the public key, cache these things properly and then do the verification. I am not aware that any gemini browsers have picked this up." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006535.html [08:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages [08:55] *v8 (~MurdochW@freenode/staff/v8) has joined #techrights [08:55] schestowitz hhmmm [08:55] schestowitz ddos vs techrights [08:55] schestowitz a burst [08:55] schestowitz second in the past few hours [08:56] techrights-bot Everything You Need to Know About #CentOS Stream http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151468 #GNU #Linux #IBM #TuxMachines [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Everything You Need to Know About CentOS Stream | Tux Machines [08:56] *schestowitz gives voice to v8 [08:57] *schestowitz gives voice to kakama [08:57] *schestowitz gives voice to alextee alextee[m] AVRS Chaekyung [08:57] *schestowitz gives voice to cubexyz opal phebus psydroid [08:58] *schestowitz gives voice to swaggboi tessier XRevan86 zoobab [08:58] schestowitz I think MinceR changed channel mods [08:58] techrights-bot #ibm pensions at risk https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY56fW7#replies [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Pension - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:59] techrights-bot A bunch of #patent #profiteers and sociopaths condemn decisions to let poor people too have access to medicines (or vaccines). For the sake of their profits (greed) they want to kill millions of people, just to keep prices artificially high. These are also #TeamUPC (here). http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/20/de-boufflers-collective-position-paper-the-waiving-of-intellectual-property-a-poor-response-to-a-real- [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | De Boufflers Collective Position Paper - The waiving of intellectual property : a poor response to a real problem - Kluwer Patent Blog [08:59] techrights-bot #watchtroll is meanwhile boosting the racist party of #sedition for the sake of attacking #vaccine #patent waivers, in effect calling for the death of millions of people, 'backed' by a party of bigots and traitors. What a truly awful and sociopathic site... ● May 22 [09:00] techrights-bot The independence of the Boards of Appeal has long been compromised (and #AntnioCampinos recently exploited that to green-light European #softwarepatents ), as judges pointed out repeatedly, so we look back at who protested this and who did not http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/the-missing-boa-signatures/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021 [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 16: The Mystery of the Missing Signatures | Techrights [09:04] techrights-bot "The spin off company provides a mechanism to transfer folks and unwanted assets there. Then it becomes the problem of the spin off company on day1 to get rid of any folks or any assets that are not wanted." #ibm #redhat https://www.thelayoff.com/t/184dZszC [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Layoffs 2021 - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:04] techrights-bot #ibm is like #epo ATM. "Last year was truly an interesting year. As far as IBM goes I saw a lot of older people decide to leave and it has continued into this year. (talking in systems). These were people who worked hard and enjoyed their work most of the time." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The best indicator of IBM's state - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:06] techrights-bot "when the pandemic wore on during 2020 many I now starting to realize there is more life than giving all your time to #IBM . Many began talking to their CFPs about their ability to retire, now!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP [09:09] techrights-bot 17 true stories about switching to Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151470 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 17 true stories about switching to Linux | Tux Machines [09:09] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151471 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:14] *schestowitz has changed the topic to: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ FreeNode | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. Support FreeNode. [09:14] techrights-bot The EPOs War on #Justice and Assault on the #Law Part 16: The Mystery of the Missing Signatures http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/the-missing-boa-signatures/ #EPO [09:15] techrights-bot [Meme] Appeal for Independence http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/appeal-for-independence/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption #injustice | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/appeal-for-independence/ [09:15] techrights-bot This week in #KDE : KCommandBar delivers ludicrous-mode productivity http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151469 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: KCommandBar delivers ludicrous-mode productivity | Tux Machines [09:15] techrights-bot It took 'over 80 different developers' to review and fix 'mess' made by students who sneaked bad code into Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29726 [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Heres Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines [09:17] techrights-bot [link omitted] #billgates -bribed rag tells us that a top story is somebody taking a photo and then many people responding to it in #socialcontrolmedia ... the "media" has become click-bait and noise. 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[09:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 21, 2021 | Techrights [09:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode Ads/Company Banners Are a 2-Decade Tradition Which Predates PIA/LTM | Techrights [09:34] schestowitz first minor netplit in a while [09:34] *baronhk[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:34] techrights-bot Screenshots to dispel revisionist #freenode history; all those screenshots can be clicked on for full view and verified with the #InternetArchive http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-ads/ #internet #history #irc [09:35] schestowitz it's baack [09:35] *notanamber[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:35] *baronhk[m]1 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:36] *BifrostBot[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:37] *alextee[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [09:37] *psydroid has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [09:37] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:38] techrights-bot NEWS #JeffGeerling #OpenHardware My 6-node 1U #RaspberryPi rack mount Cluster https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/my-6-node-1u-raspberry-pi-rack-mount-cluster [09:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | My 6-node 1U Raspberry Pi rack mount Cluster | Jeff Geerling [09:38] techrights-bot NEWS #Olimex #OpenHardware May 2021 production delays and updates! https://olimex.wordpress.com/2021/05/20/may-2021-production-delays-and-updates/ [09:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-olimex.wordpress.com | May 2021 production delays and updates! | olimex ● May 22 [10:10] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [10:17] *baronhk[m]1 (baronhkner@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hmuqesxcqaaawbsl) has joined #techrights [10:17] *baronhk[m] (baronhkmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-wvjqfropksabgtnj) has joined #techrights [10:18] *notanamber[m] (notanamber@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-avwyspmscoiijwdw) has joined #techrights [10:23] *alextee[m] (alexteemat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-gdzgrfbmscbqkgya) has joined #techrights [10:27] *schestowitz gives voice to liberty_box libertybox__ rianne rianne_ [10:27] *schestowitz gives voice to rsheftel14 saint_dogbert [10:27] *schestowitz gives voice to rasengan Redfoxmoon sbp scientes [10:27] *schestowitz gives voice to smnthermes tagglink trttl vallor [10:27] *schestowitz gives voice to wallacer xgqt [10:27] liberty_box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmTPpIxukD0 well-mannered cattle [10:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cattle Race Downhill in Response to Owner Calling Them At Ranch - 1193418 - YouTube [10:28] *schestowitz gives voice to alextee[m] AVRS baronhk[m] baronhk[m]1 [10:28] *schestowitz gives voice to cubexyz cybrNaut DiffieHellman DVulgaris [10:28] *schestowitz gives voice to hvxgr prurigro [10:33] techrights-bot NEWS #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware #ColonialPipeline CEO to testify on Capitol Hill in June following cyberattack https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/554644-colonial-pipeline-ceo-to-testify-on-capitol-hill-in-june-following [10:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Colonial Pipeline CEO to testify on Capitol Hill in June following cyberattack | TheHill [10:33] techrights-bot NEWS #Wired #ProprietarySoftware The Full Story of the Stunning RSA [Crack] Can Finally Be Told https://www.wired.com/story/the-full-story-of-the-stunning-rsa-hack-can-finally-be-told/ [10:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Full Story of the Stunning RSA Hack Can Finally Be Told | WIRED [10:35] *saint_dogbert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:36] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [10:49] *psydroid (psydroidma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rfppulovewluencn) has joined #techrights [10:53] *BifrostBot[m] (bifrostmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-otcztnaosyzbtlcv) has joined #techrights ● May 22 [11:02] schestowitz just done another video about freenode [11:02] schestowitz about half an hour long [11:02] schestowitz transcoding etc. [11:04] techrights-bot NEWS #YLE #Privacy #Surveillance #Finland joins #EU Covid digital passport deal https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finland_joins_eu_covid_digital_passport_deal/11942706 http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Finland joins EU Covid digital passport deal | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights [11:04] techrights-bot NEWS #ComputerWorld #Privacy #Surveillance Vaccine passports: The answer to re-opening the #UK economy? https://www.computerworld.com/article/3619022/vaccine-passports-the-answer-to-re-opening-the-uk-economy.html http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vaccine passports: The answer to re-opening the UK economy? | Computerworld [11:04] techrights-bot NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #ShoshanaZuboff Explains Why You Should Care About Privacy https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/21/technology/shoshana-zuboff-apple-google-privacy.html [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Shoshana Zuboff Explains Why You Should Care About Privacy - The New York Times [11:06] techrights-bot NEWS #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance #Twitter drop photo-cropping function after racial bias complaints https://thehill.com/policy/technology/554866-twitter-drop-photo-cropping-function-after-racial-bias-complaints [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Twitter drop photo-cropping function after racial bias complaints | TheHill [11:06] schestowitz taking it down [11:06] schestowitz to avoid bad press [11:06] schestowitz corporations [11:07] techrights-bot NEWS #PatrickBreyer #Privacy #Surveillance Pirates: Deal On COVID Certificate Guarantees Privacy https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/pirates-deal-on-covid-certificate-guarantees-privacy/ [11:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Pirates: Deal on COVID certificate guarantees privacy Patrick Breyer [11:08] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:09] techrights-bot NEWS #NDTV #Privacy #Surveillance #Tesla Cars Said to Be Barred From Some China Government Compounds Due to Security Concerns Over In-Car Cameras https://gadgets.ndtv.com/transportation/news/tesla-car-ban-china-government-compounds-security-camera-spying-elon-musk-2446608 [11:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Tesla Cars Said to Be Barred From Some China Government Compounds Due to Security Concerns Over In-Car Cameras | Technology News [11:09] techrights-bot [Old] #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #Apple #AirTag Review: A Humble Tracker With Next-Generation Tech https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/technology/personaltech/apple-airtag-review-tile.html [11:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Apple AirTag Review: Next-Generation Tech in a Humble Tracker - The New York Times [11:10] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.108) has joined #techrights [11:10] *schestowitz gives voice to techrights-ipfs wineroots xvx [11:11] *schestowitz gives voice to avoidr BifrostBot[m] birkoff Condor [11:11] *schestowitz gives voice to esaym153 Glyphie44____ GNUmoon hook54321 [11:11] *schestowitz gives voice to huggi_ kingoffrance mekkis notanamber[m] [11:11] *schestowitz gives voice to ohama phobos_anomaly psydroid search_social [11:11] *schestowitz gives voice to Snuupy lockeanarchist [11:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 16.21 swarm size (avg): 226.69 [11:26] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:28] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:29] *whytek has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:30] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@81.154.169.167) has joined #techrights [11:31] *whytek (~whytek@208.67.252.170) has joined #techrights [11:51] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [11:54] techrights-bot NEWS #WCCFTech # Apple, #Google & #Microsoft Have Teamed up to Block the #RightToRepair Law https://wccftech.com/apple-google-microsoft-team-up-to-stop-right-to-repair-law/ http://techrights.org/2019/08/04/righttorepair/ [11:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com | Apple, Google & Microsoft Have Teamed up to Block the Right-to-Repair Law [11:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsofts War on the Right to Repair (Ones Own Computers) Makes Lundgren an Enemy to Microsoft | Techrights [11:54] techrights-bot NEWS #Bloomberg # #Microsoft and #Apple Wage War on Gadget Right-to-Repair Laws https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-20/microsoft-and-apple-wage-war-on-gadget-right-to-repair-laws [11:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [11:54] techrights-bot NEWS #MacRumors # Apple's Efforts to Block 'Right to Repair' Laws Highlighted in New Report https://www.macrumors.com/2021/05/20/apple-right-to-repair-lobbying-efforts/ [11:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's Efforts to Block 'Right to Repair' Laws Highlighted in New Report - MacRumors ● May 22 [12:09] opal the spam isnt from #liberia it's targeted at it [12:15] *DVulgaris has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:19] techrights-bot We Need to Save #Europe From the #Lawlessness of #EPO Mafia (Corrupt Management That Doesnt Understand #Patents or #Law ) http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/epo-eba-rigged/ [12:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | We Need to Save Europe From the Lawlessness of EPO Mafia (Corrupt Management That Doesnt Understand Patents or Law) | Techrights [12:19] schestowitz libera? [12:20] schestowitz did you determine its source/ip/netblock? [12:20] opal they use compromised hosts [12:20] opal not much use [12:23] schestowitz I very much doubt their intention is to demonise libera [12:23] schestowitz just to screw around with freenode [12:24] schestowitz for "the lols" [12:24] opal #liberia was owned by some efnet troll / podcaster so in this case its pretty much just fucking around in general [12:24] opal yeah [12:25] trttl yeah. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T0NYZDGTA5g [12:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | LRH 499.3 COME SEE ABOUT ME - Invidious [12:26] trttl freenode talk starts at ~5:00 [12:28] *ubuntourist (~kjcole@unaffiliated/kjcole) has joined #techrights [12:29] trttl i'm assuming the spammer is someone unaffiliated who's happy about the situation [12:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [12:33] *DVulgaris (~quassel@2a00:7c40:c2d0:199:9ff4:1561:725e:617c) has joined #techrights [12:42] techrights-bot Nobody Loves the #EPO (or #EPC ) Like the Staff Representatives and the Union, #SUEPO http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/loving-the-epc/ #patents #europe [12:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nobody Loves the EPO (or EPC) Like the Staff Representatives and the Union, SUEPO | Techrights [12:47] *schestowitz gives voice to techrights-ipfs [12:54] techrights-bot Hating #Freenode or Its Owner Based on Distorted Version of History http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-misinformation-or-misunderstandings/ #irc #internet #privacy #freesw [12:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hating Freenode or Its Owner Based on Distorted Version of History | Techrights [12:58] techrights-bot NEWS #EFF @EFF Sues #Police Standards Agency to Obtain Use of Force Training Materials https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-sues-police-standards-agency-obtain-use-force-training-materials should have sued SPD for FOIA compliance regarding #billgates scandals; instead EFF attacked the scapegoat and boosted #microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF Sues Police Standards Agency to Obtain Use of Force Training Materials | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights ● May 22 [13:02] techrights-bot Wow, #BoingBoing now belittling #billgates crimes while #cnbc helps distract from #microsoft complicity. Media operatives working overtime to save the "good" criminal... _theirs_. [13:03] *koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [13:03] techrights-bot In several different publications now Jordan Novet has been nothing short of #microsoft operative looking to distract from Microsoft lies, crimes, and fraud. Now helps cover up for #billgates too... in #cnbc [13:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:04] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:08] techrights-bot In the #surveillance or "data collection" context metadata is akin to data about data and it can fundamentally be a lot more troubling than the data because it can be taken out of context and serve to distort or distract from the real substance, e.g. where you were but not why/what for [13:10] techrights-bot NEWS #CounterPunch #monopoly #CropData #Microsoft vs Indian Farmers: Agri-Stacking the System https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/05/21/microsoft-vs-indian-farmers-agri-stacking-the-system/ Microsoft is #corruption http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [13:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft vs Indian Farmers: Agri-Stacking the System - CounterPunch.org [13:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [13:15] techrights-bot NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux #SleePi sounds alarm when Raspberry Pi detects sleepiness https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/sleepi-sounds-alarm-when-raspberry-pi-detects-sleepiness/ [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | SleePi sounds alarm when Raspberry Pi detects sleepiness - Raspberry Pi [13:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.41 swarm size (avg): 226.75 [13:20] techrights-bot Major Productivity Boost! #KDE Brings KCommandBar for KDE Applications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151472 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Major Productivity Boost! KDE Brings KCommandBar for KDE Applications | Tux Machines [13:21] techrights-bot The Boards of Appeal of the #EPO still lack (and crave for) independence; a lot of cases can be stacked and their outcome accordingly rigged to serve the agenda of the Office http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/epo-eba-rigged/ #Techrights #patent #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/epo-eba-rigged/ [13:21] techrights-bot The situation at the #EPO is untenable; only the staff representatives and union attempt to rectify matters http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/loving-the-epc/ #Techrights #suepo #europe #patents| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/loving-the-epc/ [13:22] techrights-bot Anti- #Freenode abuse has become more apparent this past day or so; a lot of the anger is based on #misinformation or misunderstandings http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-misinformation-or-misunderstandings/ #Techrights #irc #internet | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-misinformation-or-misunderstandings/ [13:26] techrights-bot #freenode is #freesw https://web.archive.org/web/20210520103526/https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss [13:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | On freenode and its commitment to FOSS - freenode [13:26] *Noisytoot (noisytoot@fsf/member/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [13:29] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [13:31] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:37] techrights-bot NEWS #EFF #PatentTrolls #swpats Washington State Has Sued a #PatentTroll For Violating Consumer Protection Laws https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/washington-state-has-sued-patent-troll-violating-consumer-protection-laws [13:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Washington State Has Sued a Patent Troll For Violating Consumer Protection Laws | Electronic Frontier Foundation [13:47] techrights-bot So @TheLunduke is not aware that #zdnet and #techRepublic are the same publisher (scroll down to the bottom of the page of the latter) https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/LinuxJournalismPooPoo:7 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet funded by #ibm #microsoft and LF to post fluff and lies [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Linux Journalism? 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[13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [13:49] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:49] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Facebook and #Instagram Reveal How Much 'Pirated' Content is Removed Proactively https://torrentfreak.com/facebook-and-instagram-reveal-how-much-pirated-content-is-removed-proactively-210521/ [13:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook and Instagram Reveal How Much 'Pirated' Content is Removed Proactively * TorrentFreak [13:49] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights # Njalla Takes 'Pirate' Site Domains Offline Following Legal Pressure https://torrentfreak.com/njalla-takes-pirate-site-domains-offline-following-legal-pressure-210521/ [13:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Njalla Takes 'Pirate' Site Domains Offline Following Legal Pressure * TorrentFreak [13:55] *xgqt has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.5) ● May 22 [14:24] *baronhk[m]1 < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ZIDMLwqbpUbAWMmKOlNGXBGt/message.txt > [14:24] baronhk[m]1 The first one is my thoughts on the current state of Windows 10. [14:29] *tr_guest|74001 (3a089961@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.58.8.153.97) has joined #techrights [14:33] techrights-bot #Microsdft ways of thought cost society a lot https://toot.liw.fi/@liw/106273439481395426 [14:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lars Wirzenius: "Finnish universities develop a new system for stu" - toot.liw.fi [14:33] *schestowitz gives voice to tr_guest|74001 [14:35] techrights-bot #SciHub sharing is caring about #science https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/106273498079489644 scientists support Sci-Hub, the cartels that exploit scientists loathe it [14:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "Redditors Launch A 'Rescue Mission' For Embattled" - Mastodon [14:38] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:38] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:38] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151473 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [14:41] *tr_guest|74001 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [14:43] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:45] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:46] *baronhk[m]1 < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/YOVHcpIPNbdzfVXDAofLfNMa/message.txt > [14:50] baronhk[m]1 "With the Linux Subsystem, even a Chromebook could run the fully functional versions of foobar2000 (wine), VLC, and HexChat. So Microsoft's Windows Store is just....well, bad. In fact, they don't even include it in the LTSC versions that businesses get, and some pirates have noted that they run LTSC for reasons such as this. [14:50] baronhk[m]1 Microsoft still just cannot give up using Consumer SKUs as a dumping ground of junk that businesses would never deploy on a corporate environment." [14:51] *tr_guest|74001 (3a089961@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.58.8.153.97) has joined #techrights [14:55] baronhk[m]1 "As soon as I got this laptop I turned off all of Microsoft's Telemetry and Personal Information Collection stuff that Windows allows you to toggle, and it got far less annoying. However, something about 21H1 assumes that OneDrive is going to be there, even though the user is allowed to remove it, and it proceeded to put non-functioning OneDrive shortcuts in my Start Menu and in my quick launch tiles. I removed the [14:55] baronhk[m]1 tile, but to get it out of my Start Menu I actually had to track down a link that it dropped into my StartUp folder, at which point it disappeared again. DIE DIE DIE!" [14:57] *tr_guest|74001 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [14:58] baronhk[m]1 "LibreOffice 7 is a great substitute for MS Office which is free and has good compatibility. They did an excellent job of making it look and feel like a Windows 10 program in the recent major release series and the GUI in general is fantastic for folks like me who never enjoyed Ribbon and will never accept "Cloud" document editing, which may be the dumbest thing to ever happen to computing. If one can still measure [14:58] baronhk[m]1 these things." ● May 22 [15:02] *tr_guest|74001 (3a089961@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.58.8.153.97) has joined #techrights [15:03] *tr_guest|74001 has quit (Client Quit) [15:03] baronhk[m]1 I think Microsoft Edge is going to be the only part of my Windows 10 article that gets any sort of compliments. [15:04] MinceR maybe microshit should replace their entire product line with forks of google products [15:05] MinceR their new motto could be "We haven't meddled with it much!" [15:05] MinceR or "It's just a little worse." [15:08] psydroid maybe Microsoft should just gtfo and die [15:10] MinceR yeah, that would be the best [15:10] MinceR they could take ibm with them [15:16] phobos_anomaly If they took Google and Oracle with them, I'd agree to that [15:16] MinceR + [15:17] MinceR they could take intel and apple too [15:18] phobos_anomaly Intel, yeah. Apple... I'm on the fence about. Seems like lately, Apple has been giving a damn about the little peoples privacy and actively squashing attempts to track users of its products [15:18] *baronhk[m]1 < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/CaLLKIfESrkLfmztnsBwUzJN/message.txt > [15:18] *tagg (~tagglink@ua-84-216-128-46.bbcust.telenor.se) has joined #techrights [15:20] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [15:21] baronhk[m]1 "It seems that the reaction from gamers to the state the industry has allowed things to get to is a collective yawn and to try to recover each time the game errors out. Why would they ever fix it when they know you'll pay $80 for a broken game?" [15:26] MinceR > Apple has been giving a damn about the little peoples privacy [15:26] MinceR LOL [15:27] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [15:28] psydroid fake privacy as a profitable product [15:30] *tagg has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:31] *tagg (~tagglink@ua-84-216-128-46.bbcust.telenor.se) has joined #techrights [15:33] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/thoughts-on-windows-10-21h1/ [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Thoughts on Windows 10 21H1 BaronHK's Rants [15:34] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:36] baronhk[m]1 MinceR: "Thats amazing.Every single app in this store is wrong. Furthermore, dont look in the Windows Store as a safe and supported way to get Firefox, Chrome, or other browsers, because Microsofts policy is they cant be in the Store. Thats probably okay, because long before you get through Microsofts litany of requirements to publish in their store, it would become clear that although you don [15:36] baronhk[m]1 insane to work here, it would sure help." [15:37] *tr_guest|74001 (3a089961@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.58.8.153.97) has joined #techrights [15:37] MinceR :> [15:37] *tr_guest|74001 has quit (Client Quit) [15:38] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [15:41] *tagg has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:42] baronhk[m]1 "A quick note on the media front. At some point along the way, Microsoft added support for some open media codecs. Notably, Opus, FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, and WebM should work, as should proprietary formats like HEVC. That should theoretically eliminate the need to go hunting down pirate codec packs that could be brimming with computer viruses. Theyve even managed to implement support for id3v2.4 tags, so if you have any [15:42] baronhk[m]1 MP3s left, you can now update to the tag format from 2000 without worrying about whether Windows Explorer can read them or not. [15:42] baronhk[m]1 Still, 3rd party media players are much better suited for the task, as they tend to support almost everything and definitely have better GUIs without the spam. I like foobar2000 and VLC." [15:45] phobos_anomaly Am I the only one that didn't think Metro was that bad? Wasn't all that great, but wasn't that bad if you were using a touch screen [15:45] MinceR probably [15:45] phobos_anomaly :/ [15:45] MinceR also, having a UI rely on tossing the pointer in a corner of the screen doesn't work on a touchscreen [15:45] MinceR you'd think this is obvious [15:45] MinceR it wasn't obvious to microsoft [15:47] phobos_anomaly No argument here. That being said, on the few windows boxes I did have, if it didn't have a touch screen, then it got one of the alternative shells... usually everything was linux though, but with the sad state of affairs regarding games though... [15:48] phobos_anomaly I'd rather put up with 8.1 than 10 though. [15:49] MinceR :> [15:52] MinceR if i had to choose, i'd pick something like 3.1 [15:52] MinceR and run loadlin :> [15:52] MinceR or run it in dosbox [15:53] phobos_anomaly :D ● May 22 [16:05] psydroid microsoft is obsessed with mouse pointers and styluses on touchscreen devices [16:12] XRevan86 https://devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 308 @ https://devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse ) [16:14] *inky (~inky@2a00:cc47:4453:6700:f0df:b1be:e128:7919) has joined #techrights [16:19] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:20] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [16:25] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [16:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:30] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [16:35] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [16:36] XRevan86 I don't think this is actually crossing the line as the channel operator expressed the intention to leave the channel forever, so it could've been considered as vacant. However, it's also very close to abuse of power and is indeed channel take-over, so a red flag for sure. [16:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [16:37] XRevan86 https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1395667119778500611 [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "i now have it on good authority, verified with multiple people, that this Foxy person was fired from Rizon for leaking IP addresses of users to people known to have DDoS capabilities" | nitter [16:37] *oarion7 (anonymous@gateway/vpn/airvpn/oarion7) has joined #techrights [16:38] MinceR it's fine, we can always move to umbrellanet :> [16:39] XRevan86 MinceR: What even is that? [16:39] MinceR an ircnet that is run by people who are not SJWs or abusers [16:39] MinceR s/cnet/c network/ [16:40] XRevan86 I'll take your word for it. [16:41] *xgqt (~user@static62133140007.ostnet.pl) has joined #techrights [16:45] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [16:46] stormchaser3000 I really hope that Freenode survives this whole stupid drama [16:46] phobos_anomaly It will. Its not going anywhere anytime soon. Big organizations don't typically disappear over night. [16:46] stormchaser3000 I haven't been on here much lately, but I used to join quite frequently and talk on channels for several Free Software projects [16:47] stormchaser3000 fair point [16:47] XRevan86 stormchaser3000: Quite a few of those channels have or will move away. [16:48] stormchaser3000 yeah, but I don't really join most of those channels anymore [16:48] phobos_anomaly That would be stupid of them to do that instead of maintaining a dual presence [16:48] stormchaser3000 I still frequent ##slackware every once in a while as well as some related channels [16:48] MinceR people are known to do stupid things [16:49] stormchaser3000 I am waiting for Exaga (the maintainer of the installer for Slackware ARM on Raspberry Pi) to release his installer for AArch64. When that happens, then I won't have to use Manjaro [16:49] CrystalMath this is unfair, i'm waiting for you to be racist enough for me to warn you and then kline you [16:50] MinceR lol [16:50] stormchaser3000 also, yeah, people really do a lot of stupid things [16:50] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/element-matrix-reddit-and-irc-does-federation-give-more-freedom-or-different-masters/ [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Element/Matrix, Reddit, and IRC. Does Federation give more freedom or different masters? BaronHK's Rants [16:50] phobos_anomaly lol [16:50] stormchaser3000 such has been my observation of humanity XD [16:50] baronhk[m]1 SJWs, Nazis, and K-12 kids on Chromebooks in NYC is what's going on with Matrix. [16:50] baronhk[m]1 I'm not really sure what the answer is to the IRC death spiral. [16:51] stormchaser3000 telnet and ssh BBSs? [16:51] CrystalMath MinceR: some more spinning from good old Ariadne, Foxy just shared a log, and at the time rizon did not have mangling [16:51] MinceR :> [16:51] CrystalMath she appears to be gone from here [16:51] CrystalMath good [16:51] MinceR i doubt it's a death spiral [16:51] stormchaser3000 the telnet BBS is making a resurgence [16:51] MinceR i don't mind that the CIAO A TUTTI and sulinet people have moved to faecesbook and shitcord [16:52] phobos_anomaly If it does not have a registry, its not a real OS [16:52] MinceR lol [16:52] stormchaser3000 I cannot stand Discord and Facebook messenger. If I need something that does what skype does, I will use IRC, Tox, or Matrix [16:52] MinceR translation: if it does not have a filesystem that's so broken you don't want to keep small files on it, it's not a real os [16:53] stormchaser3000 btw, Tox is great [16:53] stormchaser3000 it's basically Skype before Microcrap took it over [16:53] stormchaser3000 with end-to-end encryption and decentralization [16:53] MinceR hopefully it's not as bad :> [16:53] Noisytoot There's also Jami, which is similar [16:54] MinceR Tox being free software is already a great advantage compared to skype [16:55] stormchaser3000 also, because it has a couple native desktop clients, it doesn't run like garbage on low-powered devices like the Pi 400 [16:55] stormchaser3000 the protocol also seems to be more lightweight than Matrix [16:55] stormchaser3000 there is no centralized account system so it's networking model is peer-to-peer [16:56] stormchaser3000 Jami is nice, but it's desktop client is heavier than something like uTox or qTox ● May 22 [17:00] *inky (~inky@37.252.91.66) has joined #techrights [17:03] *stormchaser3000 has to go to work [17:03] stormchaser3000 have a good day everyone [17:03] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:17] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@2601:140:887f:bad0::ff0c) has joined #techrights [17:18] schestowitz [15:28] fake privacy as a profitable product [17:18] schestowitz As long as you can get away with it [17:21] *schestowitz gives voice to balrog DVulgaris sepsinn tagglink [17:22] *schestowitz gives voice to techrights-ipfs ubuntourist xgqt [17:24] schestowitz XRevan86: the body does not match the headline [17:24] schestowitz different stories [17:25] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/element-matrix-reddit-and-irc-does-federation-give-more-freedom-or-different-masters/ [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Element/Matrix, Reddit, and IRC. Does Federation give more freedom or different masters? BaronHK's Rants [17:25] schestowitz good observation, yes [17:26] schestowitz XRevan86: This is clearly an exaggeration of what actually happened [17:27] techrights-bot #freespeech online was never easy, esp. when you are not #selfHosting https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/element-matrix-reddit-and-irc-does-federation-give-more-freedom-or-different-masters/ [17:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: Right, I did say that in my message. [17:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:29] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:29] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:31] techrights-bot #Wine 6.9 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu 21.04, 20.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151458#comment-29727 #gnu #linux [17:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.9 | Tux Machines [17:32] schestowitz XRevan86: another example of over-inflation of crises and abuses [17:33] schestowitz like the owners of freenode -- GASP -- wanting to get back on the access list for the domain [17:34] schestowitz "the rooster always attacks me when you I approach the nest with the hen's eggs..." [17:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: Now the trick with that is the access was restricted by Christel, who was the head of staff and a member of the board. [17:35] baronhk[m]1 Ubuntu not providing good support for Wine is a definite downside. [17:35] baronhk[m]1 At one point they planned to remove the entire 32-bit subsystem and then reversed course only when users were furious that they'd have to move to a different distribution to keep Steam and Wine working. [17:36] XRevan86 schestowitz: So, that arrangement has a gap: is control over the domain given to the head of staff or reserved to the board? [17:36] techrights-bot "American Truck Simulator is a truck simulator game developed by SCS Software. Its a sequel to Euro Truck Simulator 2 and puts the player in charge of running an 18-wheeler truck across America. In this guide, well show you how to play it on #Linux ." https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/american-truck-simulator-linux/ [17:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to play American Truck Simulator on Linux [17:38] XRevan86 schestowitz: Either way, the way rasengan presented this issue, it seems like he wasn't aware that Christel restricted access and thought that tomaw did so to undermine the company by seizuring the domains. [17:40] XRevan86 I am not convinced that that was ever the intention. And the actions that rasengan did take after that definitely look like the company taking control over the independent community that has been running the network since its start. [17:41] search_social well it all comes down to why Christel was able to sell freenode in a secret gag-order contract in the first place [17:41] XRevan86 schestowitz: So a bit of a The Dual Power state of things. [17:42] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:2a9b:bed:e66:6212) has joined #techrights [17:43] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151474 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:44] XRevan86 Also, there's an unanswered question here: if Christel gave access to the domains to tomaw, she must have given him the 2FA credentials as well. Is that logic correct? [17:45] techrights-bot "The Dark Mod is an open source game project, with code licensed under the GPLv3 and the Revised BSD License. All artwork for the game is licensed under CC-BY-SA-NC 3.0." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/notable-developer-from-the-dark-mod-team-passes-away [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Notable developer from The Dark Mod team passes away | GamingOnLinux [17:45] XRevan86 And if so, does that mean that in her mind the control over the domains should be in the hands of the head of staff? Just like the sponsors give exclusive SSH access to the donated infrastructure. [17:46] MinceR was 2FA enabled by then? i had the impression that it wasn't [17:47] rasengan XRevan86 - 2FA was enabled by Tomaw not christel. [17:47] rasengan You cant really properly share a 2fa credential since its usually tied to a key or a phone number. [17:48] techrights-bot Days Gone makes with the working on Linux with Proton Experimental | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/days-gone-makes-with-the-working-on-linux-withproton-experimental #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Days Gone makes with the working on Linux with Proton Experimental | GamingOnLinux [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:49] XRevan86 > You cant really properly share a 2fa credential since its usually tied to a key or a phone number. [17:49] XRevan86 rasengan: That is correct, however, she could've taken it down for him to bring it back up. [17:50] XRevan86 as a transition [17:50] rasengan It wasnt enabled before. [17:51] rasengan I had full access to the freenode domain account before. [17:51] rasengan To be clear he added himself on April 3 when he messaged me as you could see in the pdf. Few days after that I found I was locked out. [17:52] schestowitz that is not fair [17:52] schestowitz I hate 2fa [17:52] schestowitz it's tied to some questionable security practices [17:53] scientes the drama will blow over [17:53] schestowitz it adds layers of complexity that is itself an insecurity [17:53] scientes how about 4fa [17:53] schestowitz scientes: will? [17:53] schestowitz it has [17:53] schestowitz about 2 days ago [17:53] scientes or LCD-authentication [17:53] schestowitz i see no blog posts or press reports anymore [17:53] schestowitz and I watch lots of RSS feeds, plus searches on words [17:54] *scientes jokes [17:54] MinceR i see some new allegations regarding oper conduct [17:54] schestowitz the 'other people' will try to make up some drama [17:54] schestowitz same thing as the people who tried to ruin FSF [17:54] kakama ^ [17:54] schestowitz "OMG!!! RMS spoke!1" [17:54] kakama that article on ritual shaming that was reposted was cuttingly accurate [17:55] schestowitz "burn him? how dare the witch talk !!" [17:55] scientes there is some spam on OFTC mocking the whole freenode drama [17:55] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/04/09/hate-always-backfires/ http://techrights.org/2021/04/08/people-hate-the-hate-letter/ [17:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hate Letter Against Richard Matthew Stallman (RMS) Backfired So Spectacularly That Signers Asked to Revoke Their Own Signatures and the List Was Then Frozen Permanently (Updated) | Techrights [17:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Hate Letter Which Backfired | Techrights [17:55] XRevan86 rasengan: I see, that changes things. [17:56] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: MinceR https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/tim-apple-testifies-in-court-on-the-app-store-monopoly/ [17:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Tim Apple testifies in court on the App Store monopoly. BaronHK's Rants [17:56] schestowitz I'm back to focusing on patents and freesw [17:56] schestowitz freenode thing is a past issue, we need to move on and treat it like a back wing [17:57] kakama linux coc, FSF drama, git master rename, all these weird little things feel like an organized attack/attempt to seize control of the untamed self-organized independent parts of the tech world [17:57] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: yes, GAFAM is ripping people off [17:57] schestowitz kakama: you mentioned "master" [17:57] schestowitz that's corporate trollling [17:57] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ [17:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights [17:57] schestowitz provoking and dividing people [17:58] techrights-bot #Mobian begins porting its #Debian -based OS to more smartphones and tablets http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151475 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mobian begins porting its Debian-based OS to more smartphones and tablets | Tux Machines [17:58] scientes Without the communist party there would be no new china. [17:59] XRevan86 rasengan: Can ye prove that? [17:59] XRevan86 That would mean a lot. ● May 22 [18:01] techrights-bot The anti- #Freenode camp has run out of momentum, so now phony scandals are being fabricated or misframed... inertia using staged drama. Seen that 1-2 months ago in anti-FSF lobby. [18:01] kakama yeah schestowitz [18:02] scientes Without the communist party there would be no new china. [18:02] XRevan86 scientes: Huh? [18:02] MinceR it would be nice if there was no "new china" [18:02] kakama the concept of leftism per Dr. Kaczynski (not politically slanted/american politics there, just the memetic pattern of using shifting moral goalposts) [18:02] techrights-bot This could be the most powerful Linux laptop yet http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151387#comment-29729 #gnu #linux [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDOs Latest Linux Laptop is All About the Screen | Tux Machines [18:03] kakama is a weapon used by various parties these days to assert their control/attack their enemies [18:03] scientes [18:03] scientes XRevan86, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Without_the_Communist_Party,_There_Would_Be_No_New_China [18:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Without the Communist Party, There Would Be No New China - Wikipedia [18:04] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/KQamHam.png [18:04] XRevan86 scientes: Oh, in response to The Dual Power [18:05] scientes XRevan86, it is still used today, Uyghers are forced to chant it [18:05] schestowitz MinceR: wrong url? [18:05] schestowitz what is this? [18:05] MinceR reference to the tiananmen square massacre [18:05] scientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFg7VdffcKU [18:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Without the Communist Party, There Would Be No New China || CAPTIONS - YouTube [18:06] schestowitz I see... [18:06] schestowitz what massacre? [18:06] schestowitz it didn't happen [18:06] MinceR :> [18:06] baronhk[m]1 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Big-New-Driver-Coming [18:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mumblings Of A "Big New" Open-Source GPU Driver Coming... - Phoronix [18:06] baronhk[m]1 This is the worst article on Phoronix yet. [18:07] baronhk[m]1 He doesn't have any news so engages in idle speculation. [18:07] scientes schestowitz, the CCCP now says it happened, but that nobody died or something like that [18:07] MinceR that would be the CCP :> [18:07] XRevan86 , or PDA [18:08] MinceR or CPC [18:08] MinceR [18:08] XRevan86 MinceR: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/__ just sayin' :) [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/__? ) [18:08] MinceR i wonder if a sickle with such a stubby handle is even usable >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Chinese Communist Party - Wikipedia [18:09] MinceR XRevan86: lol [18:09] baronhk[m]1 https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999178100/single-dating-apps-are-making-it-easier-to-swipe-right-for-a-match-whos-vaccinat [18:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Tinder, Bumble Launch Features To Match Vaccinated Singles : Coronavirus Updates : NPR [18:09] baronhk[m]1 Dating apps are boosting people who had a COVID vaccination. [18:10] XRevan86 MinceR: No, ye just hold it like a globus cruciger [18:10] techrights-bot Chris Titus 'Tehc' [sic] promoting fake security of #microsoft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZf_OqSDJe4 see http://techrights.org/2014/07/31/microsoft-back-doors-admission/ and http://techrights.org/2015/11/14/microsoft-bitlocker-has-bugback-doors-windows-laptopdesktop-encryption-just-a-farce/ [18:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bitlocker Recovery Key - YouTube [18:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Engineer Working on Windows BitLocker Confirms Government Asks Microsoft for Back Doors | Techrights [18:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft BitLocker Has Bug/Back Doors, Windows Laptop/Desktop Encryption Just a Farce | Techrights [18:10] MinceR lol [18:13] baronhk[m]1 I figured out that to get Windows Defender Offline Scan to work you have to temporarily suspend Bitlocker. [18:13] MinceR lol [18:13] techrights-bot #Linux #Kernel 5.11 Reaches End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux 5.12 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151476 #TuxMachines [18:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.11 Reaches End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux 5.12 | Tux Machines [18:13] MinceR classic microsoft: not even compatible with other microsoft products [18:13] baronhk[m]1 It reactivates it on the next boot, but for the time that Defender Offline Scan is running, the drive is still unlocked. [18:16] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151478 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:16] techrights-bot Mike Gabriel: Upcoming brainstorming discussion about #Debian for the Enterprise http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151477 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mike Gabriel: Upcoming brainstorming discussion about Debian for the Enterprise | Tux Machines [18:17] schestowitz [18:07] He doesn't have any news so engages in idle speculation. [18:17] schestowitz yes [18:17] schestowitz these are difficult times [18:18] schestowitz https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/LinuxJournalismPooPoo:7 [18:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Linux Journalism? A bunch of Poo-Poo. [18:18] schestowitz new [18:18] schestowitz yesterday [18:18] schestowitz he makes many errors [18:18] schestowitz I will respond to it later tonight [18:18] schestowitz [18:09] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.npr.org | Tinder, Bumble Launch Features To Match Vaccinated Singles : Coronavirus Updates : NPR [18:18] schestowitz Bill Gates-funded 'news' [18:18] schestowitz (NPR) [18:19] schestowitz "get the jab or "no funking"" [18:20] *lavender- has quit (Quit: shine) [18:20] *lavendereyes (~lavendere@gateway/tor-sasl/lavendereyes) has joined #techrights [18:21] *schestowitz gives voice to lavendereyes [18:25] techrights-bot Setting Up a Secure #Webapp - RESEARCHUT https://www.researchut.com/blog/Setting_Up_a_Secure_Webapp/ #researchut | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest [18:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Setting Up a Secure Webapp - RESEARCHUT [18:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:27] techrights-bot #KDE Introduces #KCommandBar For HUD-Style Popups http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151469#comment-29730 [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: KCommandBar delivers ludicrous-mode productivity | Tux Machines [18:28] techrights-bot IWB, the man who brought #gnu #linux to #ibm https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/05/business-and-technology-dynamics-in-the-post-pandemic-years.html [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Business and Technology Predictions for 2021 and Beyond [18:30] techrights-bot "Big Picture mode currently runs on Windows 7 or newer, Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) or newer, Linux Ubuntu 12.04 or newer, and SteamOS." Which is #debian #gnu #linux -based. https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-steam-big-picture-mode-explained/ [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | What Is Steam Big Picture Mode and How Do You Use It? [18:30] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:32] techrights-bot #GNOME Human Interface Guidelines Being Updated For #GTK4 , Other Modern Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151390#comment-29731 #gtk [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gnome: New Human Interface Guidelines | Tux Machines [18:38] techrights-bot #Games : The Dark Mod Mourns, Days Gone, and Big Picture http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151479 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: The Dark Mod Mourns, Days Gone, and Big Picture | Tux Machines [18:38] techrights-bot #Monopolies Versus #RightToRepair Law http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151480 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Monopolies Versus Right-to-Repair Law | Tux Machines [18:39] techrights-bot Fork #BruteForce Attack Detection/Mitigation Still Being Worked On For The #Linux #Kernel https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-v7-Brute-Force-Mitigation [18:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fork Brute Force Attack Detection/Mitigation Still Being Worked On For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix [18:43] techrights-bot Live Embedded Event schedule published, 5 talks from #Bootlin https://bootlin.com/blog/live-embedded-event-schedule-published-5-talks-from-bootlin/ #linux [18:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live Embedded Event schedule published, 5 talks from Bootlin - Bootlin's blog [18:45] rasengan XRevan86: https://devilfruit.com:9000/uploads/6e357c36e0d8126b/image.png Sory, I was in the shower. Here's proof we had control of the domains and [18:46] rasengan XRevan86: https://devilfruit.com:9000/uploads/663f8caa482ed1b8/image.png And proof of timing/etc. that I was referring to previously. [18:49] XRevan86 rasengan: The first screenshot shows the moment when Christel transfers the domain to the company. The second shows that tomaw was added to the domain controlling team on April 5th. [18:49] rasengan yes, we discovered we were locked out shortly after. [18:50] XRevan86 rasengan: That's what I mean by proof: the moment in the log when the lock-out happened, i.e. 2FA was added. [18:51] rasengan that kind of transparency doesnt exist on thea cc, but im sure you can imagine that 2fa was added after tomaw was added right? ;) [18:51] XRevan86 rasengan: I should reupload the screenshots to use them, right? [18:51] rasengan Like from a technical perspective you know? [18:51] rasengan XRevan86: yes _please_ [18:51] rasengan I have very limited bandwidth on this box [18:52] rasengan that said i sent the other ones to you in PM becuase they were 10 megs [18:52] techrights-bot #Security and #ProprietarySoftware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151483 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines [18:52] XRevan86 rasengan: Well, I don't know the technicality of the gandi control panel, to me it looks weird that there's a team of separate accounts, yet they somehow can impose a shared 2FA. [18:53] *ubuntourist has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:53] techrights-bot ISO Codes #API for #KDE Frameworks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151482 [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ISO Codes API for KDE Frameworks | Tux Machines [18:53] techrights-bot #Lakka 3.0 release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151481 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #raspi [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lakka 3.0 release | Tux Machines [18:53] *ubuntourist (~kjcole@unaffiliated/kjcole) has joined #techrights [18:55] search_social well it's like having root, any account with root can lock out other accounts with root [18:55] XRevan86 search_social: But we're talking about adding 2FA, not revoking Owner status. [18:56] schestowitz search_social: good analogy [18:56] search_social so like in minetest anyone with the "grant" priv can revoke the grant priv from everyone else who has it [18:56] XRevan86 I thought it's a shared account, so tomaw got the login and password and then added 2FA to it. [18:57] schestowitz search_social: or change sudoers [18:57] schestowitz which is what this 2fa thing is like [18:57] XRevan86 But the screenshot implies that it's a managed account [18:57] rasengan XRevan86 I don't know how gandi works but we could not login due to 2fa having been enabled. Tomaw had to disable 2fa for us to get in. [18:57] rasengan (and to be clear, he did it) [18:57] schestowitz he was a peer, equal [18:58] schestowitz so surely he can do that [18:58] schestowitz shared admins can lock one each other out, so the concept of superadmin is sometimes needed [18:58] schestowitz like recovery account with phone #/address [18:59] schestowitz I can be locked out of techrights by someone as well [18:59] schestowitz the server and DNS too [18:59] schestowitz that's the cost of sharing creds and powers, like in case I get hospitalised or something [18:59] schestowitz and my wife isn't good at DNS and those sorts of things [18:59] baronhk[m]1 https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-gave-bill-gates-advice-on-how-to-end-toxic-marriage-sources-say [18:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Jeffrey Epstein Gave Bill Gates Advice on How to End Toxic Marriage, Sources Say ● May 22 [19:00] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: that's afterthought spn [19:00] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: According to this, Bill Gates asked Epstein how to end the marriage to Melinda. [19:00] schestowitz I saw that before, they're now trying to create a confusing new spin [19:00] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: noise [19:00] schestowitz that's not what he went to prison for [19:01] schestowitz also, he met him many times before the divorce proceedings [19:01] schestowitz initiated not by him [19:02] schestowitz and she divorced him [19:02] schestowitz not the other way around [19:02] schestowitz and not because she found out he was micro-soft [19:02] schestowitz but BECAUSE he was hanging out with a sex traffickers who sells access to young girls [19:15] baronhk[m]1 You would think that the DMCA would put the US at a disadvantage when it came to online hosting services. [19:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.56 swarm size (avg): 227.02 [19:16] baronhk[m]1 Someone would just stick one where it doesn't apply. [19:16] techrights-bot Links 22/5/2021: Lakka 3.0, Stable RHEL Release http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/lakka-3-0-release/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/lakka-3-0-release/ [19:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/5/2021: Lakka 3.0, Stable RHEL Release | Techrights [19:18] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151487 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:18] techrights-bot #RaspberryPi Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151486 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:18] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151485 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:18] techrights-bot A Week In Tok http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151484 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Week In Tok | Tux Machines [19:19] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: DMCA isn't just in the US [19:19] schestowitz or rather, it can be pushed outwards, as happens lot [19:19] schestowitz all those "Trade" agreements... [19:20] MinceR WIPO Copyright Treaty [19:21] baronhk[m]1 https://torrentfreak.com/wordpress-rejected-83-of-all-dmca-takedown-notices-last-year-210514/ [19:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WordPress Rejected 83% of all DMCA Takedown Notices Last Year * TorrentFreak [19:21] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [19:21] baronhk[m]1 Microsoft Bing rejected less than half a percent of DMCA notices. [19:25] *opal has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:27] *opal (~wowaname@volatile/founder/wowaname) has joined #techrights [19:27] techrights-bot "What's NEW In Fedora 34? GNOME 40, Boosted Performance With ZSTD Compression, Smoother System with Systemd-OOMD. Linux Kernel 5.11, and an ABSOLUTELY NEW EXPERIENCE." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMQaGM3N9zg [19:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 34 | This is the ABSOLUTE Best Linux Distro of 2021 Yet (NEW RELEASE!) - YouTube [19:29] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [19:29] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: at some stage it ought to be, by default or if in doubt, REJECT [19:29] schestowitz and impose penalties for wrong requests [19:29] schestowitz use penalty money to crowdfund food aid for hard-hit countries [19:29] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:30] *opal has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:31] CrystalMath rasengan: what can we do if someone sets +i on a ## channel to force people to move to libera? can we report this to freenode staff? [19:31] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [19:31] *opal (~wowaname@volatile/founder/wowaname) has joined #techrights [19:32] schestowitz CrystalMath: to interject, it seems to me like such channels or projects shoot their own foot or blow it away [19:32] CrystalMath schestowitz: yes but what if a sizable number of the people there want to stay [19:33] CrystalMath must we create new channels? :( [19:33] schestowitz if the admins do it, and they're the rightful admins, no foul play [19:33] schestowitz just "dick move" [19:33] schestowitz as they separate users from their friends [19:33] schestowitz such admins are dicks [19:33] CrystalMath we shouldn't let them do this [19:33] MinceR tell the old founders to do it right and drop their NickServ accounts :> [19:34] schestowitz bbiab [19:34] CrystalMath MinceR: some of these are aggressive and they will not [19:34] CrystalMath they want to force people over to libera [19:34] schestowitz 7:30pm GMT, no articles today about freenode in my feeds, not even blog posts [19:34] MinceR threaten them with selling their precious data [19:34] schestowitz storm settling [19:34] CrystalMath i mean you know these people... they *never* shy away from violence [19:35] schestowitz I am moving on [19:35] MinceR Thought for the day: Violence solves everything. [19:35] CrystalMath MinceR: if reason fails, i think we should have some backup [19:35] CrystalMath for now i will create ### channels [19:35] schestowitz we can post analysis of this later, maybe a week from now TBH [19:35] CrystalMath when this happens [19:35] trttl "left wing or right wing.. i'm pro violence" [19:36] MinceR :) [19:36] schestowitz said nobody ever [19:36] MinceR "a bit of the old ultra-violence" [19:36] schestowitz 'TechMob' https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/MostAfraidOfTechMob:3 [19:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | 76% Afraid of Tech Mob - Most hide true opinions [19:36] schestowitz yesterday ^ [19:37] schestowitz We can pwn them when all their inertia is gone [19:37] schestowitz and then mention how they fail to rub salt in the wounds [19:37] schestowitz because they lie [19:37] schestowitz self-fulfilling prophecies [19:37] schestowitz "x is dead" [19:41] CrystalMath MinceR: tbh i say this stuff with the full awareness that i forcefully set autokick on libera to tell people to go to freenode :P [19:42] MinceR :> [19:42] CrystalMath MinceR: and even removed co-founders to do so [19:43] CrystalMath it's a purely democratic decision, the channel - that is me [19:43] MinceR "I am the Senate!" [19:44] CrystalMath "i am the channel" would be closer to the english translation of what Louis XIV said [19:44] CrystalMath the state? i am the state [19:45] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [19:46] CrystalMath MinceR: btw, Leah Rowe will be moving to irc.libreboot.org [19:46] CrystalMath but is on freenode until then [19:52] *tagg (~tagglink@ua-84-216-128-46.bbcust.telenor.se) has joined #techrights [19:53] *inky (~inky@2a00:cc47:4453:6700:f0df:b1be:e128:7919) has joined #techrights [19:54] *zleap (~zleap@unaffiliated/zleap) has joined #techrights [19:54] XRevan86 CrystalMath: The procedure is to wait 60 days after ops leave and then request the channel. [19:54] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:54] *ubuntourist has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:55] CrystalMath XRevan86: and lose all the people to libera in the meantime? [19:55] *zleap has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:55] XRevan86 CrystalMath: What loses people is violating trust. [19:55] *ubuntourist (~kjcole@unaffiliated/kjcole) has joined #techrights [19:55] CrystalMath honestly that just sounds like a surrender [19:55] CrystalMath and i never give up, never surrender [19:55] *zleap (~zleap@unaffiliated/zleap) has joined #techrights [19:55] CrystalMath i will create temporary channels [19:55] CrystalMath maybe of the form ##originalname-fn [19:55] CrystalMath and then wait 60 days [19:55] CrystalMath and then get the channel [19:56] XRevan86 CrystalMath: What are ye? A Ruling Party fighting dissent? [19:56] CrystalMath and then just redirect back from ##originalname-fn to ##originalname [19:56] CrystalMath XRevan86: it's from the movie Galaxy Quest [19:56] XRevan86 CrystalMath: No, it's from the early XX century history of Russia. [19:56] phobos_anomaly MinceR: That umbrella net you mentioned earlier, on the application for an account, its asking for a number. Is it wanting a phone number or do you know? [19:57] phobos_anomaly https://umbrellanet.org/ [19:57] CrystalMath XRevan86: i mean what i said [19:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-umbrellanet.org | UmbrellaNet The multi IRC network project [19:57] schestowitz good that you have a blog now [19:57] schestowitz to baronhk[m]1 [19:57] schestowitz you had several over the years [19:58] MinceR phobos_anomaly: that's an application to link your server to the network, and it looks like they didn't modify the form from some sort of example site [19:58] MinceR it's probably meant to be a phone number [19:58] *zleap has quit (Client Quit) [19:58] phobos_anomaly I'd donate a server for use if they'd accept home servers [19:59] schestowitz what's the footpring of ircd anyway? [19:59] schestowitz *foorprint [19:59] CrystalMath XRevan86: finally, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLUS0o69wQ [19:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Never give up; never surrender. - YouTube [19:59] schestowitz >footprint [19:59] phobos_anomaly schestowitz: NOt much just for the daemon [19:59] schestowitz I'm with CrystalMath [19:59] schestowitz many of our causes were like that [19:59] phobos_anomaly a p2 and 256 of ram easily handles it [19:59] phobos_anomaly its the connection load thats a pain [19:59] MinceR phobos_anomaly: i asked them, we'll see if they reply [19:59] phobos_anomaly :D [19:59] schestowitz you must press even when they tell you that you have no chance ● May 22 [20:00] CrystalMath IMO we should definitely stay on freenode [20:00] CrystalMath Ariadne left, but who cares [20:00] schestowitz zoobab would know [20:00] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Probably what RCP(b) was saying when outlawing other political parties. [20:00] schestowitz he got very emotional in the fight against UPC [20:00] schestowitz many gave up [20:00] schestowitz but we kept fighting and won [20:01] schestowitz took like 10 years [20:01] schestowitz CrystalMath: today is her last day in freenode [20:01] schestowitz she told me [20:01] schestowitz 22nd [20:01] XRevan86 CrystalMath: There are boundaries to what boundaries ircops should not be allowed to cross. [20:02] XRevan86 s/to what boundaries/that/ [20:02] schestowitz [06:15] fyi [20:02] schestowitz [06:15] i will not be on freenode after may 22. [20:02] schestowitz [06:15] anyone who contacts you on here claiming to be me is an imposter [20:02] schestowitz [06:15] thanks for letting me know [20:02] CrystalMath i always liked her nick, i think i'm gonna snatch it for a bot of mine [20:02] CrystalMath for my browser project called Theseus, it's fitting [20:03] phobos_anomaly MinceR: Is it safe to assume its named after Red Umbrella Corp from the resident evil games? [20:03] XRevan86 CrystalMath: konina? [20:03] CrystalMath and of course #theseus is going nowhere :) [20:03] phobos_anomaly ;) [20:03] CrystalMath never libera.crap [20:03] MinceR phobos_anomaly: indeed, even the logo matches :> [20:03] phobos_anomaly Thought so :D [20:04] phobos_anomaly If I ever start a company, it might just be named Umbrella Corp ;) [20:04] schestowitz CrystalMath: she's on OFTC [20:04] schestowitz OFTC is sort of stable [20:04] schestowitz maybe even credible [20:04] schestowitz OFTC has some cross pollination with freenode [20:04] *avoidr (~avoidr@utox/developer/avoidr) has left #techrights ("https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse") [20:05] CrystalMath it has tomaw [20:05] schestowitz yeah [20:05] CrystalMath it has klines for people who are anti-RMS [20:05] schestowitz but OFTC has not entered the ring to badmouth [20:05] CrystalMath according to bagira (not verified to be about that) [20:05] schestowitz yes, I ehard the same [20:05] schestowitz I wrote about it weeks ago [20:05] phobos_anomaly schestowitz: For whatever my opinion is worth (I am under no illusion that its worth anything), OFTC is pretty stable and usually very helpful [20:05] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights [20:05] CrystalMath schestowitz: i have no concrete proof but i've seen tomaw write things that make me think he's a dick [20:06] schestowitz the same peopel who wanted to burn down freenode [20:06] schestowitz and are also in OFTC [20:06] schestowitz it's NOT freenode [20:06] schestowitz it's a clique [20:06] schestowitz and their agenda is mixed [20:06] schestowitz staff of OFTC and freenode is not a monopolith [20:06] schestowitz *monolith [20:08] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [20:08] *phobos_anomaly is now known as help [20:09] *help is now known as Guest1491 [20:11] *tagg has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:11] techrights-bot Smach Z: Dead in 2021, Yet Portable PC Gaming Lives On https://boilingsteam.com/the-smach-z-dead-in-2021-yet-pc-handheld-gaming-lives-on/ [20:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Smach Z: Dead in 2021, Yet Portable PC Gaming Lives On - Boiling Steam [20:12] *Guest1491 is now known as phobos [20:13] psydroid I can't shake the belief and the suspicion that burning down Freenode is the goal, but for what reason exactly? [20:13] phobos grudges [20:13] psydroid to steer people in the development community towards proprietary communication platforms? [20:14] phobos because they wanted to own the network and then found out that they will never inherit it [20:14] phobos ? [20:14] phobos That seemed to be the goal anyway way back then [20:15] psydroid as mentioned there is some cross-pollination between people who signed the anti-RMS petition and those who have admin rights on OFTC and Libera [20:16] techrights-bot #RockPi SBCs move to 2GHz RK3399 and toss in free eMMC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151488 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Armbian [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rock Pi SBCs move to 2GHz RK3399 and toss in free eMMC | Tux Machines [20:16] MinceR phobos: they say it depends [20:17] MinceR things like what setup it is at home concerning security/firewall/network, rdns [20:17] XRevan86 psydroid: Ariadne is also there. [20:18] psydroid XRevan86, I know [20:19] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [20:20] phobos MinceR: #umbrellanet ? [20:20] MinceR i'm not sure if we even have that [20:21] MinceR there is #help, though [20:21] phobos On the umbrellanet, just logged in there [20:26] Noisytoot it has klines for people who are anti-RMS [20:26] Noisytoot Did you mean pro-RMS? [20:26] MinceR phobos: if you just want to chat, try #chat there [20:27] phobos can do. Thanks for the tip [20:28] schestowitz Noisytoot: seems so [20:28] schestowitz I heard the same [20:28] schestowitz but [20:28] schestowitz it depends which member of staff you 'get' [20:29] schestowitz there are cliques [20:29] CrystalMath Noisytoot: oops, yeah [20:29] CrystalMath my mistake :P [20:31] schestowitz anyone willing to read a draft? [20:34] techrights-bot Nothing to do at #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYOBAse [20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Not enough work - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:34] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20815295 [20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pritam@diasp.org: @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (); schestowitz@joindiaspora.com} your sites gets a mention and appreciation by Harry Vox https://www.bitchute.com/video/M0n7OPbaXk6d/ [20:37] schestowitz wow, his whole video seems to be about techrights [20:37] schestowitz but it's undavoury [20:41] schestowitz actually, now that I watch it... [20:41] schestowitz he's not so cranky [20:41] schestowitz maybe I judge by his looks and comments on the video [20:46] XRevan86 rasengan: What this screenshot tells me is that "_Freenode_" is an organisation, "freenode", "tomaw" (and then "kevinifc") are accounts that have the owner permission. [20:47] XRevan86 rasengan: Which thing got locked in behind 2FA? [20:47] rasengan The organization. [20:48] XRevan86 I'm looking through the Gandi documentation, and I cannot find anything that would imply 2FA for organisations. And they don't even have passwords. [20:49] XRevan86 it has an email address and the owner team [20:57] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [20:58] *swaggboi has quit (Quit: C-x C-c) [20:59] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights ● May 22 [21:05] *opal is now known as imode [21:05] *imode is now known as opal [21:15] schestowitz that video linked to in diapora is actually awful [21:15] schestowitz it's like the alex jones crap, starting calm and then going 100% crazy [21:17] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21051436 [21:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5456749) [21:17] XRevan86 MinceR: the heck [21:18] MinceR :> [21:18] schestowitz yup [21:22] CrystalMath rasengan: btw, did you see my question about people who lock their channels and forward to libera? can anything be done or do we have to wait 60 days? [21:22] CrystalMath this is just a hypothetical question, i see no such channel right now, but there are threats [21:23] psydroid it's like squatting a channel and being offended that it is released and given to people who actually (want to) do something with it [21:23] XRevan86 CrystalMath: So far Freenode hasn't had a clause about disloyalty. [21:24] psydroid a channel that isn't used shouldn't really exist [21:24] CrystalMath rasengan: i will assume that we just have to wait 60 days then, as usual [21:25] XRevan86 CrystalMath: That's for ## channels of course [21:25] CrystalMath yes, ## channels only [21:25] techrights-bot 15 Things to do after installing #LinuxMint | FOSS Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/46737/things-to-do-after-installing-linux-mint.htm #fosslinux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest [21:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | 15 Things to do after installing Linux Mint | FOSS Linux [21:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:25] CrystalMath i would never try to contradict the wishes of a project [21:25] CrystalMath sadly it seems that FVWM is moving to libera [21:25] CrystalMath but oh well [21:26] techrights-bot What Are Shell Builtin Commands and #HowTo Identify Them? https://www.makeuseof.com/shell-builtin-commands-in-linux/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | What Are Shell Builtin Commands and How to Identify Them? [21:26] techrights-bot 5 Ways to Safely Download Software on #GNU #Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/ways-to-safely-download-software-on-linux/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | 5 Ways to Safely Download Software on Linux [21:27] techrights-bot Better URL management in #NeoMutt with #urlscan | Hund https://hund.tty1.se/2021/05/22/better-url-management-in-neomutt-with-urlview.html | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest [21:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hund.tty1.se | Better URL management in NeoMutt with urlscan | Hund [21:27] *ubuntourist has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:31] schestowitz CrystalMath: you speak only of the 'negatives' [21:31] schestowitz let's focus on the positives [21:32] CrystalMath most of the channels i'm in are not moving :) [21:32] CrystalMath that's a positive [21:32] schestowitz yes [21:32] schestowitz let's keep morale high [21:32] schestowitz and be patient [21:32] schestowitz it's similar to March 23rd [21:32] schestowitz the 'second 9/11' [21:32] schestowitz 'free software 9/11' [21:32] schestowitz I think Oliva coined that [21:33] Chaekyung so a false flag? [21:33] Chaekyung or does Oliva believe in the fairy tale 9/11 story even though it defies 9 basic laws of physics? [21:34] CrystalMath Chaekyung: i see no laws of physics violated in the event [21:34] CrystalMath but there are suspicious things regarding how the planes eluded military control [21:35] MinceR https://xkcd.com/690/ [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Semicontrolled Demolition [21:37] schestowitz CrystalMath: let's keep on topic [21:37] schestowitz the analogy isn't meant to remark to that effect [21:38] schestowitz but the aftermath of it [21:38] schestowitz MinceR: ha [21:38] CrystalMath MinceR: heh, that's kinda i how feel :P [21:38] schestowitz anyone wanna read a draft? [21:39] Chaekyung CrystalMath: I see. So you believe the laws of physics allow buildings just totally pulverize in 9.6 seconds thirty minutes after being hit by something in one of the upper floors. That's interesting. [21:40] CrystalMath it's a runaway effect due to heat, not due to being hit [21:40] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: I have just gone past Mumblings Of A "Big New" Open-Source GPU Driver Coming... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Big-New-Driver-Coming [21:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mumblings Of A "Big New" Open-Source GPU Driver Coming... - Phoronix [21:40] schestowitz you were right [21:40] CrystalMath Chaekyung: do the heat equation [21:40] schestowitz it's just some lousy tweets as 'article' [21:40] CrystalMath see how it goes in a model [21:40] schestowitz typical slow news trawl, as if "tweets" are news source [21:40] schestowitz lkml is a lot better as source [21:40] CrystalMath Chaekyung: the impact of the airplane did not take it down, the heat did [21:40] Chaekyung I also like how there's plenty of pictures and videos of massive steel beams being thrown up and away. Last time I checked gravity makes things fall down, not up [21:41] schestowitz oh, come on, let's not talk this in #techrights [21:41] schestowitz mark bilk did that [21:41] Chaekyung but hey, perhaps fundamental islamic terrorist prayed to allah and asked that the laws of physics would be suspended that day [21:41] schestowitz before he died :( [21:41] Chaekyung who's Mark Bilk? [21:41] schestowitz msb [21:41] schestowitz he was a regular here [21:41] schestowitz opensuse user [21:41] schestowitz he died [21:42] schestowitz he had some illness for a long time [21:42] schestowitz was sometimes logging in here from the hospital iirc [21:42] MinceR Mark Bilk used openSUSE. Mark Bilk died. don't die -- don't use openSUSE. [21:42] Chaekyung I see. [21:42] schestowitz anyway, let's keep on topic [21:42] Chaekyung anyway, since I haven't had time to pay attention to whatever drama light, I found some URLs today [21:42] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/say-no-to-paid-for-spam/ [21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Does Reporting, Not Clickbait or Paid-for Spam | Techrights [21:42] schestowitz this is a draft [21:43] schestowitz if anyone wants to fish for typos and stuff [21:43] schestowitz I am still editing [21:43] Chaekyung https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409 https://news.itsfoss.com/freenode-controversy/ https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/andrew-lee-named-new-korean-crown-prince-300731986.html also see you wrote something about it schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/20/freenode-users/ [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | freenode-faq.md GitHub [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Open Source World's Favorite IRC Network Freenode is in Turmoil - It's FOSS News [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Andrew Lee Named New Korean Crown Prince [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Theres a Staff Exodus at Freenode, But Its Not a Users Exodus (No Compelling Practical Reasons to Leave) | Techrights [21:43] Chaekyung I don't really get it. is it Korean Prince bad [21:43] Chaekyung like orange man bad except it's korean prince? [21:43] schestowitz it's the framing [21:44] Chaekyung I can't seem to figure out what, if anything, the story is [21:44] schestowitz david v goliath [21:44] schestowitz rasengan being evil Goliath [21:45] schestowitz you condition or PRE-condition people into allegiances [21:49] techrights-bot VirtIO-GPU/Graphics Support Is Improving In #QEMU But Slowly - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=VirtIO-GPU-QEMU-2021-H1-State #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VirtIO-GPU/Graphics Support Is Improving In QEMU But Slowly - Phoronix [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:50] search_social i mean, it is true that a rich person bought freenode, and it is true that this should be cause for scrutiny [21:51] CrystalMath search_social: that was in 2017 [21:52] CrystalMath in 2021 tomaw and his buddies ousted christel after harrasing her [21:52] CrystalMath they they threw a hissy fit [21:52] CrystalMath and left for that libera.crap network [21:52] CrystalMath and now they're trying to force us to go there [21:52] XRevan86 How did they harass her by the way? I haven't found anything concrete about it other than it was related to the logo. [21:54] search_social yes there does seem to be some cover up going on about what actually happened in 2017 [21:55] XRevan86 I'm talking about 2021 [21:59] schestowitz tons of typos corrected [21:59] techrights-bot Techrights Does Reporting, Not #Clickbait or Paid-for Spam http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/say-no-to-paid-for-spam/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/22/say-no-to-paid-for-spam/ ● May 22 [22:01] schestowitz as I understand it, they said nasty things because of what she agreed on years earlier [22:01] schestowitz and the explanation given for it all along [22:01] schestowitz but here's the thing: [22:01] schestowitz freenode was never owned by the staff/volunteers [22:02] schestowitz there used to be another entity in the holding [22:02] schestowitz which depended on donors [22:02] schestowitz users probably did not open their wallet much [22:02] schestowitz advertisers did [22:03] XRevan86 schestowitz: Apparently there was a predecessor company that existed, but then got liquidated for costing too much. [22:03] schestowitz which one? [22:03] schestowitz the 4-letter acronym? [22:05] techrights-bot The EPO's War on Justice and Assault on the Law -- Part 17 will be published some time in the morning in #techrights (the series has had a big impact and concrete outcomes) [22:06] XRevan86 schestowitz: Open Projects Network [22:06] schestowitz oh, that [22:06] schestowitz ages ago [22:06] XRevan86 Ah, no, PDPC [22:06] schestowitz ok [22:06] XRevan86 the 4-letter acronym, right [22:06] schestowitz not sure what that stands for, but i saw it before [22:06] MinceR Peer-Directed Projects Center [22:07] XRevan86 schestowitz: Freenode has existed for many years without any company above it. [22:08] schestowitz true [22:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: And all contacts with Freenode were done with the staff. [22:08] schestowitz was it self-funding and sustainable on its own? [22:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: The infrastructure was donated by the sponsors (to the staff), the staff was unpaid. [22:09] schestowitz everything has operational costs [22:09] schestowitz even us [22:09] schestowitz I foot the bills for everything from my own pocket [22:09] schestowitz which isn't a deep pocket [22:09] schestowitz some donate hardware [22:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: rasengan has mentioned spending money on legal protections, I am not aware of any other involvement. Apart from renewing the domains. [22:09] schestowitz like kaniini [22:10] schestowitz XRevan86: maybe servers [22:10] schestowitz how many servers have freenode irc daemons on them? [22:10] schestowitz 1000? [22:10] schestowitz 100? [22:10] schestowitz I assume some are multi-tenant [22:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://freenode.net/acknowledgements [22:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Acknowledgements - freenode [22:10] schestowitz GNU is in there [22:11] schestowitz users of the network [22:11] schestowitz some of them [22:11] schestowitz with stake in its stability [22:11] XRevan86 schestowitz: But since PIA and then Shells was present prominently, I assume LTM helped as well. I do wonder how much compared to the independent sponsors. [22:11] search_social PIA donated $50k to FSF for 4 years too [22:12] schestowitz XRevan86: 7 or 8 years of sponsorship [22:12] schestowitz he says 3k a month [22:12] schestowitz from shells anyway [22:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: To where? [22:12] schestowitz since March (when the logo was up) [22:12] schestowitz PIA has tons of servers [22:12] schestowitz maybe over 3000 [22:12] schestowitz based on a recent article from south-asian/southchina/hk press [22:13] schestowitz and they don't log [22:13] schestowitz so tbh I don't mind them hosting some of it... if that helps keep the platform reliable and secure [22:13] schestowitz show me evidence of them being rogue [22:13] schestowitz I've not seen any yet [22:13] schestowitz they also paid my friend glyn moody to do journalism in their site [22:14] schestowitz they saved linux journal [22:14] schestowitz they pay the FSF [22:14] XRevan86 schestowitz: PIA is also mentioned in the Acknowledgements [22:14] schestowitz they didn't sign anti-FSF letters [22:15] schestowitz https://www.fsf.org/patrons [22:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Current patrons Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [22:15] schestowitz https://www.fsf.org/patrons/fy2020 [22:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF patrons during fiscal year 2020 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [22:15] schestowitz top sponsor last year [22:15] schestowitz the sole one [22:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: Anyway, the staff has clearly decided that they can be self-funding and sustainable on their own. [22:15] schestowitz 50k, about one's person's annual salary [22:15] schestowitz XRevan86: when? [22:15] schestowitz in recent years pia was runnin the show [22:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: When they ditched the company [22:16] schestowitz like days ago? [22:16] schestowitz time will tell if they can endure [22:16] schestowitz and can maintain as many servers as necessary [22:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: They're not novices. [22:17] schestowitz technically not [22:17] schestowitz but they have long operated under an umbrella that included sponsors [22:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: I think they're planning on attracting sponsors. [22:18] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.106) has joined #techrights [22:18] XRevan86 Who hosts OFTC I wonder [22:20] techrights-bot #OniVim 2: The Only Useful Graphical Vim Client https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N41BLL75PxA [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OniVim 2: The Only Useful Graphical Vim Client - YouTube [22:20] schestowitz moments ago https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/migration-of-postgresql-irc-channels-2216/ [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Migration of #postgresql IRC channels [22:20] schestowitz well, psql [22:20] schestowitz bsd [22:21] schestowitz so far still very few projects that openly announce this [22:21] schestowitz I can count them on ONE hand [22:23] techrights-bot #Games : Smach Z, Petal Crash, Wildermyth http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151489 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Smach Z, Petal Crash, Wildermyth | Tux Machines [22:25] techrights-bot #OSGeoLive 14.0 is out, but their pages are still not updated to reflect that https://live.osgeo.org/en/index.html [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-live.osgeo.org | Welcome to OSGeoLive 13.0 OSGeoLive 13.0 Documentation [22:25] techrights-bot The calamity seen across publishers (not limited to any particular area or segment) is partly due to a lack of trust, which is sometimes the fault of these publishers (desperate money-grabbing moves and click-bait-centric strategies) http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/say-no-to-paid-for-spam/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techri [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Does Reporting, Not Clickbait or Paid-for Spam | Techrights [22:27] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151490 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:29] techrights-bot Old and historic: #EbenMoglen Steps Down From Free Software Foundation https://www.informationweek.com/eben-moglen-steps-down-from-free-software-foundation/d/d-id/1054465? [22:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eben Moglen Steps Down From Free Software Foundation - InformationWeek [22:29] *v8 has quit (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))) [22:31] *v8 (~MurdochW@freenode/staff/murdochw) has joined #techrights [22:33] techrights-bot #marketresearchtelecast a computer program-generated spew site? Using translators to make it seem like originals? Why does #googlenews keep falling for what seems like 'sophisticated' plagiarism operations? [22:34] *v8 has quit (Changing host) [22:34] *v8 (~MurdochW@freenode/staff/v8) has joined #techrights [22:35] techrights-bot This is a celebration of #surveillance and effort at inducing a self-serving prediction upon the population https://siliconangle.com/2021/05/21/covid-19-accelerates-technological-revolution-as-the-world-grows-closer-to-the-edge-think2021/ [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-COVID-19 accelerates technological revolution as the world grows closer to the edge - SiliconANGLE [22:38] techrights-bot #Monopolies #walledGardens #apple #gafam #ProprietarySoftware https://www.cnet.com/news/apples-tim-cook-grilled-by-judge-overseeing-epics-fortnite-trial/ [22:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's Tim Cook grilled by judge overseeing Epic's Fortnite trial - CNET [22:39] techrights-bot Gatekeepers and #ProprietarySoftware pay booths/tolls https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-epic-games/apple-app-store-profits-look-disproportionate-us-judge-tells-ceo-cook-idUSKCN2D217K [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apples Tim Cook says threat profile of iPhone justifies App Store rules | Reuters [22:46] techrights-bot "Band 10s always have a target on their back at IBM. Either way, thats the problem with IBM. They always hold back your career one way or another." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYfLMf0#replies many retire early or leave to avoid the sacking https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY8iMCf [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | High salary, but promotion never comes - post regarding IBM layoffs [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Just got job offer outside IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [22:47] techrights-bot " #Ibm could try to unload the pension for a profit (currently its over funded by 3-4%), BUT IBMs pension must comply to the feds rules which are quite strict due to the federal pension guarantee rules, so unloading it seems like a lot of work for 3-4%. Would IBM do it?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY56fW7#replies [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Pension - post regarding IBM layoffs [22:54] techrights-bot New article on hyperlinking in #geminiprotocol gemini://lonelysilo.ca/article/links-and-anchors.gmi #geminiSpace [22:55] techrights-bot The #techrights gemini capsule soon turns 4 months in age gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ [22:57] techrights-bot On average, the #techrights gemini capsule serves 5k pages per day. And the month-to-month growth is huge because more people discover and then choose to use #geminiSpace for more of the things they need, such as news gathering, weather forecast, blogging etc. [22:59] techrights-bot "After my previous post, a chap from my local Linux Users Group tipped me off to uBlock Origin (Legacy), which is an alternative script blocker." http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.833.2 [22:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodbyemicrosoft.net | New browser update - Goodbye, Microsoft ● May 22 [23:00] techrights-bot FOSS Patents: Friday for #Fortnite http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/05/friday-for-fortnite.html by @fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/22/#latest [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Friday for Fortnite [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:02] techrights-bot This has nothing to do with protection but everything to do with #monopoly or #protectionism that put lives at risk (for selfish reasons http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/22/importance-of-second-medical-use-protection-is-growing/ [23:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Importance of second medical use protection is growing' - Kluwer Patent Blog [23:03] techrights-bot "The 924 patent relates generally to management of applications..." = #swpats or #SoftwarePatents and #uspto should toss this in the wastebasket https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/5/20/aprese-reexamination-request-granted [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Aprese reexamination request granted Unified Patents [23:06] schestowitz TIL this is a UK-based thing... awful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | BitChute - Wikipedia [23:06] alextee[m] >known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hateful content [23:06] schestowitz "At launch, the site claimed it was using peer-to-peer WebTorrent technology.[14] However, a November 2019 report by Fredrick Brennan, published in The Daily Dot, failed to find any evidence of peer-to-peer data transfer in BitChute's videos.[20] All videos Brennan downloaded came directly from BitChute's servers, with no part of the videos received from peers. According to Brennan, magnet links on the site don't work. Brennan [23:06] alextee[m] the first line in wikipedia. wikipedia is compromised [23:06] schestowitz challenged BitChute's use of the word "delist" to describe deplatforming users, saying that the wording is misleading in that it makes BitChute seem falsely similar to BitTorrent (where a site maintains one "list" of content, but independent trackers may be created as well), when in reality BitChute is just deleting a user's videos from the BitChute site.[20] According to Ars Technica in April 2021, the option to host videos using [23:06] schestowitz WebTorrent on BitChute "appears to have been deprecated".[32]" [23:07] schestowitz is this an oversimplication? [23:07] schestowitz I saw someone there today after someone had told me there did a video all abot [23:07] schestowitz about Techrights [23:07] schestowitz that contained really awful parts like COVID denial [23:08] schestowitz but just offlining millions of people also isn't the solution [23:08] schestowitz I think it's one of those problem nobody has an answer to [23:08] schestowitz (least me or you, alextee[m]) [23:08] schestowitz I heard theories about suppression of speech leading to violent action [23:08] alextee[m] there's peertube [23:08] schestowitz as they cannot vent out verbally [23:09] alextee[m] i don't understand why the answer to a problem created by centralization is some other centralization [23:09] alextee[m] using bitchute instead of youtube is a bit stupid [23:09] schestowitz different "masters" [23:09] schestowitz liveleaks is another [23:09] alextee[m] yeah and it got shut down. they never learn [23:09] schestowitz but as I understand it liveleaks isn't for "hate speech" [23:10] schestowitz but rather things like violent footage (IME) [23:10] schestowitz liveleaks is offline? [23:10] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiveLeak [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | LiveLeak - Wikipedia [23:10] schestowitz oh [23:10] schestowitz "The site was shut down on 7 May 2021. The website currently redirects to ItemFix, another video sharing site" [23:10] alextee[m] yeah apparently with no explanation [23:10] schestowitz I saw no news about this [23:11] alextee[m] probably intelligence agencies [23:11] alextee[m] there's probably lots of intimidation behind the scenes [23:11] schestowitz it was also uk-based [23:11] schestowitz yes, I can imagine [23:11] schestowitz or draining people out [23:11] phobos Or liberals held a 'mostly peaceful protest' at the server facility [23:11] schestowitz putting them dowen [23:11] schestowitz splitting etc. [23:12] schestowitz phobos: liveleak [23:12] schestowitz is different [23:12] schestowitz it's something leftists can relate to [23:12] schestowitz and liberals too [23:12] schestowitz the establishment liberals [23:12] phobos Yeah, it was just a wise ass remark [23:12] schestowitz it's more like antiwar IME [23:13] phobos since they seem to torch or loot whatever catches their eye in that moment [23:13] schestowitz "On 19 August 2014 a video depicting the beheading of US journalist James Foley was posted by Islamic State terrorists on YouTube and other sites. When it was reported on by US News & World Report, YouTube and Facebook deleted all related footage and implemented bans, increasing demand for LiveLeak's footage as they currently allowed this.[14] In response to the James Foley video, Hewitt posted that LiveLeak's policy had been updated [23:13] schestowitz to ban all beheading footage produced by ISIS.[15][5] The website will continue to host the original video that depicted the aftermath of Foley's execution for its historical relevance as it does not depict the beheading itself." [23:13] schestowitz They went after IA as well [23:13] schestowitz with that episode [23:13] schestowitz the straw man of beheading and ISIS [23:13] schestowitz because people kept uploading it to IA [23:14] schestowitz "On 24 March 2014, LiveLeak and Ruptly announced a content partnership" [23:14] schestowitz RT [23:14] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruptly [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ruptly - Wikipedia [23:14] schestowitz "It is a subsidiary of the Russian state-controlled[7] television network RT" [23:15] MinceR wise ass-remark [23:15] schestowitz anyway, I feel dirty just looking that up [23:15] schestowitz all those sites [23:16] schestowitz not "dark web" per se [23:16] schestowitz but more worthy of that label than sites that require passwords or Tor to access [23:16] alextee[m] it's definitely something you could get put on a list for in the UK i think lol [23:16] alextee[m] just pinging that server [23:16] schestowitz alextee[m]: I use wikipedia first [23:16] schestowitz as a friend did too [23:16] schestowitz trying to figure out where that comes from [23:16] schestowitz we don't want to be associated with people in binchute [23:17] schestowitz it's like the literal youtube garbage can [23:17] alextee[m] yeah staying neutral is the best when it comes to these things [23:18] techrights-bot "Sponsored by"... #managingip wants to be thought of as "journalism"... but it's propaganda and "content farm" for #litigatibn profiteers... and they don't hide it too well https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rxkxfjmk0s6x/south-korea-supreme-courts-en-banc-ruling-drops-registration-defence-for-later-registered-trademarks [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | South Korea: Supreme Courts en banc ruling drops registration defence for later-registered trademarks | Managing Intellectual Property [23:21] XRevan86 Sudden thought: how do people say "mazut" in English? Answer: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mazut#English [23:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | mazut - Wiktionary [23:22] techrights-bot "Bio-Rad turned this argument on its head in contending that 10X Genomics' product did not practice the invention claimed in the asserted claims of the '530 #patent " (embargo without or with barely any #dueprocess because of #itc ) https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/bio-rad-laboratories-inc-v-intl-trade-comm-fed-cir-2021.html [23:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc. v. Int'l. Trade Comm. (Fed. Cir. 2021) [23:24] techrights-bot #Patent lawyers love dragging everything to the realm and "HEY HI" and other nebulous nonsense because therein the technical arguments stop and it's all just a circus of waffle, including the mischaracterisation of #softwarepatents https://www.latham.london/2021/05/all-those-in-favour-say-ai-uk-ipo-publishes-response-to-its-consultation-on-artificial-intelligence-and-intellectual-property/ [23:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-All Those in Favour, Say AI: UK IPO Publishes Response to Its Consultation on Artificial Intelligence and Intellectual Property | Latham.London | Latham & Watkins [23:26] techrights-bot So many #designpatents even though such #patents ought not exist at all; they're a distortion of the underlying rationale of #patentlaw https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/almost-uninterrupted-tuesdays.html see http://techrights.org/2018/08/02/design-patents-legitimacy/ [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | 173 Years of (Almost) Uninterrupted Tuesdays | Patently-O [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Design Patents: When Appearances Rather Than Inventions and Functions Are Oddly Enough Covered by Patents, Not Copyrights or Trademarks | Techrights [23:31] techrights-bot Phony leader and outright fraud Campinos now adds jeans to his sneakers, pretending he's casual while in fact abetting corruption in Europe's second-largest institution https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210520a.html [23:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - PATLIB2021 conference heralds enhanced support for innovators in Europe [23:31] schestowitz XRevan86: mazut ozil? [23:31] schestowitz mesut [23:32] XRevan86 schestowitz: mazut oil [23:32] schestowitz :-) [23:32] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesut_zil?wprov=srpw1_0 [23:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mesut zil - Wikipedia [23:32] schestowitz Mesut Oil :-) [23:33] schestowitz the secret of his hairstyle [23:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: oh, I see, had no idea who this is [23:33] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.22) has joined #techrights [23:34] psydroid former benchwarmer at Arsenal [23:36] techrights-bot Rose Hughes (AstraZeneca): "I. Beckedorf has therefore also been replaced on the panel." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/epo-responds-to-accusations-of.html #techrights broke the story a day earlier: http://techrights.org/2021/05/20/calle-josefsson-deposed/ [23:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | EPO responds to accusations of perceived bias in G1/21 (ViCo oral proceedings) - The IPKat [23:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Breaking EPO News Regarding G 1/21: Judge Calle Josefsson Deposed as Chairman | Techrights [23:38] techrights-bot #uspto #Fakepatents #bogusPatents #patents #monopolies https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/withdrawn-patents.html [23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Withdrawn patents. [23:41] techrights-bot Some truly obscene #greenwashing of #monopolies from people who make a living selling monopolies https://www.dlapiper.com/en/us/insights/publications/2021/05/green-ip-the-interplay-between-ip-law-sustainability-and-esg/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/ [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dlapiper.com | Green IP: the interplay between IP law, sustainability and ESG in the EU | Insights | DLA Piper Global Law Firm [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Abuses Climate Change, Hijacking or Misusing Grassroots Activism for Corporate Public Relations Stunts | Techrights [23:41] schestowitz psydroid: lol [23:41] schestowitz true [23:42] *willyg_cos (~joeuser@184.99.61.86) has joined #techrights [23:42] schestowitz Sanchez left first [23:42] *schestowitz gives voice to willyg_cos [23:42] schestowitz they can barely find a decent coach now [23:43] schestowitz psydroid: I didn't know he left for a Turkish club earlier this year [23:43] schestowitz now it's a shorter trip to Ankara if he wants to kiss Erdogan's palm [23:43] schestowitz and enrage fellow Germans [23:45] techrights-bot "Here I interview the great Stephan #Kinsella and discuss whether or not #patents and intellectual [sic] property [sic] are actually a good thing. We get into philosophy, practical advice, and more." https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol336-are-patents-actually-harmful-dan-engerer/ [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL336 | Are Patents Actually Harmful? Interview with Dan Engerer [23:46] schestowitz OK, freenode seems to have calmed down [23:46] schestowitz no trolls, no spam, no netsplits for a while [23:47] schestowitz MinceR: do we need restrictions in channel modes? Do you see vandals in other channels? [23:47] MinceR looks like oftc is still getting something, and ircnet certainly is being attacked [23:50] techrights-bot #ibm is no place to climb upwards https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYfLMf0#replies [23:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | High salary, but promotion never comes - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:51] techrights-bot "If you're not already wearing a Fedora, I highly advise getting one. As this place moves in that direction, our traditional positions will become less and less needed." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYOBAse#replies #redhat #fedora #ibm [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Not enough work - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:51] MinceR lol [23:51] MinceR wear the logo of a dying distro [23:52] *willyg_cos has quit (Quit: Gone...) [23:53] *cubexyz has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [23:55] schestowitz MinceR: that's all they have left [23:55] schestowitz and to prop it up the suffocate centos [23:55] schestowitz they don't know how gpl works [23:55] schestowitz red hat knew [23:55] schestowitz ibm doesn't know