●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, July 22, 2021 ●● ● Jul 22 [00:25] *immibis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:25] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [00:26] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@vgyttwn9yxix6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:27] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:29] schestowitz-TR ok... [00:30] schestowitz-TR well, I'm about to finish work in a bit [00:30] schestowitz-TR two days off after that, but the heat is killing us... hard to sit down and typo tbh [00:31] techrights-news Open-Source #Radeon Tools Updated With Expanded RDNA(2) Support, Other Features https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-GPUOpen-GDC21 [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open-Source Radeon Tools Updated With Expanded RDNA(2) Support, Other Features - Phoronix [00:31] techrights-news #Google Hacking is Part of Open Web Information Gathering Guide https://www.cyberpratibha.com/google-hacking-open-web-information-gathering/ [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberpratibha.com | Google Hacking is Part of Open Web Information Gathering Guide for Beginner [00:34] techrights-news Accessibility in open source for people with ADHD, dyslexia, and Autism Spectrum Disorder https://opensource.com/article/21/7/open-source-neurodiversity #ibm #redhat : we care for such people, but we viciously libel and attack RMS because we're originally a Nazi company http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ [00:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Accessibility in open source for people with ADHD, dyslexia, and Autism Spectrum Disorder | Opensource.com [00:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [00:36] techrights-news "This release features the ability to automatically generate self-signed certificates, which makes it easier for developers to verify the security capabilities of their applications before moving to production." Before outsourcing trust to corrupt Jim Zemlin (LE)? https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/07/21/red-hat-jboss-enterprise-application-platform-74-brings-new-developer-and [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Red Hat JBoss Enterprise Application Platform 7.4 brings new developer and operations capabilities | Red Hat Developer [00:37] techrights-news "Note that this post is not about whether you should do authorization at the router level. Its likely youll do it as part of your business logic for the most part. But when it makes sense, you can use Plugs." https://nts.strzibny.name/elixir-authorization-plugs/ [00:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | Elixir Authorization Plugs [00:38] techrights-news SAD LOSS: Philippe Aigrain, co-founder of #LaQuadratureduNet https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/philippe-aigrain-co-founder-of-la-quadrature-du-net see http://techrights.org/2021/07/13/rip-philippe-aigrain/ [00:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Philippe Aigrain, co-founder of La Quadrature du Net Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [00:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Philippe Aigrain, Who Fought Against Software Patents, Died This Past Weekend | Techrights [00:39] techrights-news #Colonisation by algorithms https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-07-21-colonisation-by-algorithms-the-fourth-industrial-revolution-and-the-ethical-use-of-predictive-analytics/ #imperialism #espionage #manipulation [00:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymaverick.co.za | Colonisation by algorithms: The Fourth Industrial Revol... [00:41] techrights-news #FLOSSWeekly 639: Open Source and Big Business - #MartenMickos https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/639 [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | Open Source and Big Business [00:41] techrights-news #XmlListModels in Qt 6 - Life of a Developer http://www.thelins.se/johan/blog/2021/07/xmllistmodels-in-qt-6/ #thelins | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/21/#latest [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelins.se | XmlListModels in Qt 6 Life of a Developer [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:42] techrights-news As if wallpapers are what ought to matter about #gnu #linux systems... https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/07/wallpapers-by-jfl [00:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | The 'Hey Dude, Where Can I Get That Wallpaper?' Blog Post - OMG! Ubuntu! [00:43] techrights-news Write your first web component https://opensource.com/article/21/7/web-components #www #programming [00:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Write your first web component | Opensource.com [00:45] MinceR well, if ibm decides everything else about your systemd/systemd-kerneld system (because they know everything better), then you (or your distributor) getting to choose your wallpaper may indeed be very important [00:45] techrights-news #gnu #linux distro #Garuda 210720 is out. https://forum.garudalinux.org/c/announcements/16 [00:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.garudalinux.org | Announcements - Garuda Linux Forum [00:45] techrights-news #ibm #redhat : watch our ads! https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/services-sessions-red-hat-summit-2021-catch-demand [00:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Services sessions from Red Hat Summit 2021 to catch on demand [00:46] techrights-news Delivering Common #Lisp executables using Consfigurator https://spwhitton.name//blog/entry/delivering-lisp-images/ #programming [00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spwhitton.name | Delivering Common Lisp executables using Consfigurator [00:47] schestowitz MinceR: +1 [00:47] schestowitz debian's wallpapers suck [00:47] schestowitz all of them [00:48] schestowitz Bit I found out wsllpapers are just images [00:48] schestowitz so I can download them [00:48] schestowitz or in KDE fetch them over the GUI [00:48] schestowitz so, wallpapers don't mean much ;-) [00:49] techrights-news #AMD #AOCC 3.1 #Compiler Released - Rebased On #LLVM 12.0 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-AOCC-3.1-Released [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD AOCC 3.1 Compiler Released - Rebased On LLVM 12.0 - Phoronix [00:49] techrights-news "The module is especially suited to industrial control, consumer electronics, smart home, medical devices, and the company provides Linux 5.4.31 and the source code for the necessary drivers." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/07/21/a-smaller-stm32mp1-som-meet-myir-myc-ya15xc-t-cpu-module/ [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | A Smaller STM32MP1 SoM - Meet MYIR MYC-YA15XC-T CPU Module - CNX Software [00:50] DaemonFC https://www.spreadprivacy.com/introducing-email-protection-beta/ [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spreadprivacy.com | Introducing Email Protection: The easy way to block email trackers and hide your address [00:51] techrights-news Ricardo Garcia: #Debugging shaders in #Vulkan using printf https://rg3.name/202107210642.html [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rg3.name | Geek Blight - Debugging shaders in Vulkan using printf [00:52] DaemonFC https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-life-expectancy-plunged-in-2020-especially-for-black-and-hispanic-americans/ar-AAMoEjD?li=BBnb7Kz [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | U.S. Life Expectancy Plunged in 2020, Especially for Black and Hispanic Americans [00:52] schestowitz why MSN? [00:52] schestowitz do you choose Microsoft as your informer? [00:52] XRevan86 Not the first time DaemonFC shares an MSN link. [00:53] schestowitz I know [00:53] schestowitz I kept quiet the firts time [00:53] schestowitz many MSN staff was fired [00:53] XRevan86 No AMP this time (: [00:53] schestowitz Microsoft had an excuse [00:53] schestowitz HEY HI [00:53] schestowitz not because MSN is dying [00:53] schestowitz but Microsoft is "HEY HI" genius [00:54] techrights-news More shilling of "Sysadmin Day" for the corrupt 'Linux' Foundation, which uses #Windows for its site!! https://linuxhandbook.com/newsletter/21-13/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/17/we-are-the-windows-powered-linux-foundation/ [00:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | LHB Linux Digest #21.13: Server Monitoring, Sysadmin Day, Bash History Tips and More Linux Stuff [00:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Apparently Celebrates Sysadmin Day With a Microsoft Windows Site! | Techrights [00:55] DaemonFC Microsoft is plugging MSN News into Windows everywhere you look. [00:56] DaemonFC Including the shell and obviously Edge, which they also added a bunch of affiliate links to in the new tab page. [00:56] DaemonFC Desperately trying to conserve money while promoting trash content for click pennies. [00:56] schestowitz-TR maybe you should move to gnu/linux [00:56] schestowitz-TR and stop having microsoft spam in your eyes [00:57] schestowitz-TR I use kate+rss and gemini for news [00:57] schestowitz-TR for like, non-tech news [00:59] techrights-news We need to create a geek culture of #github remorse, wherein people feel shy and embarrassed when they outsource to this #microsoft #proprietaryware prison and #monopoly -- it's AN ATTACK on society and software freedom. http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsofts Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights ● Jul 22 [01:00] XRevan86 schestowitz: That stuff is opt-out, DaemonFC doesn't actually have to see it. [01:00] techrights-news Maybe you should not have used a mobile phone to begin with; they're malicious even without this tool covertly installed https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/21/22587234/amnesty-international-nso-pegasus-spyware-detection-tool-ios-android-guide-windows-mac [01:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Heres how to check your phone for Pegasus spyware using Amnestys tool - The Verge [01:01] techrights-news Worse than Pegasus: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Edward Snowden interview: 'Smartphones can be taken over' - BBC News [01:02] techrights-news Trademarks https://64.media.tumblr.com/3d4fcd5dce4e937369a4a7c1b7773be7/66fd66eeb81d8c22-ee/s1280x1920/cd09598c206800b4a6ab5bd83d2416056a19dc12.png [01:02] schestowitz XRevan86: yes, Windows is opt out [01:02] schestowitz you can wipe it [01:03] MinceR 22 014837 <~schestowitz> so, wallpapers don't mean much ;-) [01:03] MinceR maybe they'll become part of gnome's branding :> [01:03] techrights-news Using the MKR IoT Carrier board as a game console https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/07/21/using-the-mkr-iot-carrier-board-as-a-game-console/ [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Using the MKR IoT Carrier board as a game console | Arduino Blog [01:03] MinceR like the bar on top of the screen [01:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 24.71 swarm size (avg): 285.62 [01:04] schestowitz MinceR: that could be changed 20+ years ago [01:04] schestowitz now I think only by installing volatile extensions [01:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: That goes without saying :) [01:05] techrights-news Full Circle Magazine: Full Circle Weekly News #218 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-218/ #gnu #linux #ubuntu [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Weekly News #218 | Full Circle Magazine [01:05] XRevan86 What I mean is that it's not an excuse even if he 100% totally absolutely needs Windows or something. [01:06] schestowitz he is not gaming [01:06] schestowitz he doesn't use stuff for work [01:06] schestowitz he does not need Windows [01:06] schestowitz why he keeps it? beats em [01:06] schestowitz *me [01:06] MinceR but what if he's a masochist though? [01:06] *mib_387s3q (~4758ba92@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [01:06] MinceR or just likes to be ahead of fedora, rHELL, debian and ubuntu? [01:06] schestowitz he even RE-installed it recently [01:07] schestowitz so it's not "merely there" [01:07] MinceR to already be where they all want to be? [01:07] schestowitz btw [01:07] schestowitz I should mention only in IRC: [01:07] schestowitz (as I cannot verify for sure) [01:07] schestowitz if you go to ubuntu blog [01:08] schestowitz the top story is Canonicel loves Microsoft [01:08] XRevan86 > Pegasus for Android does not rely on zero-day vulnerabilities. Instead it uses a well-known rooting method called Framaroot. Another difference: If iOS version fails to jailbreak the device, the whole attack fails, but with the Android version, even if the malware fails to obtain the necessary root access to install surveillance software, it will still try directly asking the user for the permission [01:08] XRevan86 s it needs to exfiltrate at least some data. [01:08] XRevan86 So is it known how it's supposed to get on the device? Trojan? [01:08] schestowitz even though it'\s an old story [01:08] MinceR not news [01:08] schestowitz I'm done with them [01:08] MinceR canonical was all too happy to pay microsoft to have their bootloader/stub/whatever signed for Restricted Boot [01:08] MinceR and so was red hat [01:08] schestowitz red what? [01:08] schestowitz red mond you meran? [01:09] MinceR :> [01:09] XRevan86 Also, isn't Framaroot very dead? [01:09] schestowitz maybe we should have fun with the name red hat [01:09] schestowitz for fun's sake [01:09] schestowitz but to be honest it's the IBM influence [01:10] schestowitz Red Hat was not that bad until IBM called the shotts [01:10] XRevan86 What were they, trying to root Android Jellybean? [01:10] schestowitz jellybean is quite new :-) [01:10] MinceR yes it was [01:10] schestowitz rianne has an old phone [01:10] schestowitz it's not connected [01:10] schestowitz so technically it is not a phone [01:11] schestowitz it doesn't even have a number] [01:11] MinceR they already came up with systemd, they took over debian from the inside to force it on users [01:11] schestowitz but it's android 2.x iirc [01:11] MinceR and they've already paid microsoft for the Restricted Boot signature [01:11] schestowitz they also paid a salary to a scummy troll [01:11] MinceR and their package managers sucked [01:11] schestowitz to troll Torvalds to not being raped by that [01:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: So she's vulnerable to Pegasus except that there's no way for the Trojan APK to catch her. [01:12] schestowitz it's used as a camera [01:12] schestowitz with usb [01:12] XRevan86 > jellybean is quite new :-) [01:13] techrights-news #DAMON -Powered Proactive Reclamation Revised For Linux Memory Savings http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153665 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:13] XRevan86 "new enough" means that there's enough supported software for that version [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DAMON-Powered Proactive Reclamation Revised For Linux Memory Savings | Tux Machines [01:13] techrights-news #Devices Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153662 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:14] *mib_387s3q has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [01:14] XRevan86 Right now the lowest end of wide support is pretty much Android 6. [01:14] techrights-news #Handwriting Notetaking App #Xournal ++ 1.1.0 Released for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153661 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Handwriting Notetaking App Xournal++ 1.1.0 Released for Linux | Tux Machines [01:14] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: support meaning, gulag can remotely modify the softare [01:15] XRevan86 In this case the relevance of this is that users of older Android are not going to install a rogue APK. [01:15] XRevan86 And that they're just not common. [01:16] schestowitz-TR many sites cannot be accessed either [01:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: I don't mean support from Google, I mean what application developers typically target. [01:16] schestowitz-TR because of FakeSecurity(TM) like certs with too new a version/protocol [01:16] schestowitz-TR 50 trackers? OK! [01:16] XRevan86 Android 4.4 doesn't even have any supported web browsers, everything is Android 5+ [01:16] schestowitz-TR but Zemlin saying "no!" to the domain (cert/LE), OK! [01:17] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: that's digital obsolescence [01:17] schestowitz-TR bad for the environment [01:18] schestowitz-TR also, they never seem to care enough to make phones upgradeable to the latest Android [01:18] schestowitz-TR even if in theory it is feasible [01:18] schestowitz-TR they just don't give a damn [01:18] XRevan86 schestowitz: The point is that if Pegasus targets only old Android (or can be most sneaky and productive on it), it's pretty pointless. [01:18] schestowitz-TR so I say goodbye to this whole "ecosystem" and life gets easier [01:19] techrights-news Shaun McCance: Discovery Docs Part 4: Discovery http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153237#comment-30356 [01:19] techrights-news #KDE is to Linux what #Vista7 was to Windows http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153660 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shaun McCance: Discovery Docs Part 1: Discovering Why | Tux Machines [01:19] XRevan86 The users of such old Android cannot even use a browser without risks of RCEs. [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE is to Linux what 7 was to Windows | Tux Machines [01:19] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: it's not used for browsing [01:19] schestowitz-TR rianne has 2 machines [01:20] schestowitz-TR second hand but OK for browsing [01:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: The context is Pegasus attack vectors. [01:20] schestowitz-TR phone is for things that it was originally designed for [01:20] schestowitz-TR she doss not browser the web on the toaster, either [01:20] schestowitz-TR *browse [01:20] XRevan86 We are talking about different things. [01:21] schestowitz-TR well, people who still use 'phones' sort of 'deserve' that [01:21] schestowitz-TR pegasus is one of many [01:21] schestowitz-TR CIA and Italians and Germans have similar toolsets [01:21] schestowitz-TR [01:01] Worse than Pegasus: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Edward Snowden interview: 'Smartphones can be taken over' - BBC News [01:22] schestowitz-TR FinFisher, HackingTeam etc. [01:22] schestowitz-TR Gamma Group [01:22] XRevan86 Looks like the threat of Pegasus to Android is not serious, it's all iOS. [01:22] schestowitz-TR good [01:22] schestowitz-TR so Apple cultists will suffer more [01:22] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153659 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:23] schestowitz-TR Tim Crook will put on an 'angry' face for the cult [01:23] schestowitz-TR while still participating in NSA PRISM and whatever came after that [01:23] techrights-news #Ubuntu 20.10 Groovy Gorilla Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Ubuntu 21.04 Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153658 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 20.10 Groovy Gorilla Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Ubuntu 21.04 Now | Tux Machines [01:24] techrights-news #Games : Humble Bundle, CS:GO, The Garden Path http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153657 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Humble Bundle, CS:GO, The Garden Path | Tux Machines [01:25] schestowitz-TR seeing people punished for bad "tech choices" is sort of "good"... [01:25] schestowitz-TR in the sense it can hopefully awaken them and those around them [01:25] schestowitz-TR they might even think twice next time [01:26] schestowitz-TR same for Windows ransoimware [01:26] schestowitz-TR I'm a proponent [01:26] XRevan86 schestowitz: The LE certificate issue was worked out for now, by the way, if ye remember. [01:26] schestowitz-TR but media needs to report on it better [01:26] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ [01:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights [01:26] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: for old Android [01:27] schestowitz-TR but the underlying issues run deeper [01:27] schestowitz-TR I can't for the life of me figure out why a Chinese or Russian site would want 'free' LDE certs [01:27] schestowitz-TR it's another tentacle of the Empire [01:27] schestowitz-TR *LE certs [01:28] schestowitz-TR Chrome will soon tighten further on the cert front [01:28] schestowitz-TR Google No!Zilla will follow of course [01:28] XRevan86 schestowitz: To mess with the DPI. [01:28] schestowitz-TR either you're with the Empire of your site is blocked at browser level, for no legit reason [01:29] techrights-news #NVMM Ported To #DragonFlyBSD For Virtualization http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153664 #UNIX #BSD #TuxMachines [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVMM Ported To DragonFlyBSD For Virtualization | Tux Machines [01:29] schestowitz-TR site with 5 google trackers? OK! [01:29] schestowitz-TR But not if it lacked 'encryption' with some LE cert [01:29] schestowitz-TR because "privacy!" [01:29] schestowitz-TR in the same vein [01:29] schestowitz-TR Linux needs rust for "security!" [01:30] schestowitz-TR says Google front grou [01:30] schestowitz-TR after Google-funded Mozilla made rust [01:30] schestowitz-TR and never mind the many security flaws in rust itself, which is tied to the NSA through Google, Microsoft, ShitHub etc. [01:30] schestowitz-TR the security threatre has become a full-blown circus [01:31] schestowitz-TR [16:26] #IBM and #Google uses the so-called 'Linux' Foundation to centralise control over what you can and cannot install on your own system https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/sigstore-open-answer-software-supply-chain-trust-and-security see http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148632#comment-28571 [01:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Sigstore: An open answer to software supply chain trust and security [01:31] techrights-news Add-ons supply CAN FD to Raspberry Pi Zero and Pico http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153655 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Git, Tor, and Fake (Monopolised, Centralised) 'Security' From Linux Foundation | Tux Machines [01:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Add-ons supply CAN FD to Raspberry Pi Zero and Pico | Tux Machines [01:31] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153656 #Linux #TuxMachines [01:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:32] techrights-news #NuTyX 21.07.3 available with cards 2.4.132 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153663 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NuTyX 21.07.3 available with cards 2.4.132 | Tux Machines [01:33] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:34] techrights-news Released #Giblog 2.0, and a movie "How to create your web site using Giblog and #Perl " http://blogs.perl.org/users/yuki_kimoto/2021/07/released-giblog-20-and-a-movie-how-to-create-your-web-site-using-giblog-and-perl.html [01:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Released Giblog 2.0, and a movie "How to create your web site using Giblog and Perl" | Yuki Kimoto Perl Blog [blogs.perl.org] [01:35] techrights-news "For starters, though, begging for a #proprietarysoftware vendor to re-license its product under FOSS terms is, at best, a wild misinterpretation of Why Vendors Do What They Do. #Microsoft doesnt re-license products on a whim..." https://www.freesoftwhere.org/2021/07/21/emojent-behavior/ [01:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://www.freesoftwhere.org/2021/07/21/emojent-behavior/ ) [01:36] techrights-news "Even if I don't buy a #SteamDeck at launch I want this device to succeed, this having a console running full fledged #GNU #Linux is the kind of push that game developers need to properly support Proton and near perfect Linux gaming." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSLfXTJF0OA [01:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SteamDeck Success Is Good For All Linux Gamers - YouTube [01:39] techrights-news A clunky (but useable) method for recording video on a PinePhone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153666 [01:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A clunky (but useable) method for recording video on a PinePhone | Tux Machines [01:41] techrights-news #zdnet 'linux' news: FUD, Microsoft, IBM, IBM, Microsoft, Microsoft,Microsoft, IBM, FUD. #boycottZDNet (it's pushing ads for its sponsors, it is NOT journalism) http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2021 [01:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [01:42] DaemonFC maybe you should move to gnu/linux [01:42] DaemonFC and stop having microsoft spam in your eyes [01:42] DaemonFC Too much garbage in your face? Try space! [01:42] techrights-news When the media mentions #ransomware it typically omits any mentions of #microsoft and #windows http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ [01:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights [01:43] DaemonFC Microsoft just won't quit trying to make the Worst Chromebook Ever with Edge and Microsoft Clown. [01:43] schestowitz DaemonFC: space lacks oxygen [01:43] schestowitz you can find distros that work for you [01:43] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Now try this answer on my suggestion. [01:43] DaemonFC Windows is clunky, to say the least. [01:44] DaemonFC For some reason, it's so stupid it can't tell that if user has Intel Graphics Driver 9486, quit overwriting it with 9415 and then demanding a reboot. [01:44] DaemonFC So you have to go in with Group Policy and tell it "Fucking stop getting drivers!". [01:44] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Just hide the trash through the taskbar drop-down menu and stop using MS Edge at all. [01:45] XRevan86 Is that like going to space too? [01:45] DaemonFC Pretty much. It wastes a lot of space with MSN crap now. [01:45] DaemonFC It's a really terrible news feed. [01:46] XRevan86 Remove it. [01:46] techrights-news #LinuxFoundation as surveillance powerhouse for #IBM and #Microsoft . This is harming the #Linux brand. https://www.biometricupdate.com/202107/digital-health-pass-developments-worldwide-canada-slovenia-linux-foundation see http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/ [01:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.biometricupdate.com | Digital health pass developments worldwide: Canada, Slovenia, Linux Foundation | Biometric Update [01:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called Linux Foundation | Techrights [01:46] DaemonFC "If an American child was born today and lived an entire life under the conditions of 2020, that child would be expected to live 77.3 years, down from 78.8 in 2019." [01:46] DaemonFC LOL [01:46] DaemonFC No, if a child was born under the conditions of 2020 and those never eased up, the government would fail before the child reached 3. [01:46] XRevan86 In Russia years that's pretty good. [01:46] DaemonFC Then the child would be spending most of its life under some other government. [01:47] DaemonFC Yeah, life expectancy in Russia went way down after the end of the USSR. [01:47] DaemonFC The system that replaced Communism is actually worse for many than what it replaced. [01:47] DaemonFC You find that most governments that collapse are replaced by something just as bad or worse. [01:48] schestowitz-TR activelow: I will merge in #techpol tonight [01:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: Merge what? [01:48] schestowitz-TR logs [01:48] schestowitz-TR there is a new channel for OT stuff [01:48] schestowitz-TR to keep us better focused on tech [01:48] DaemonFC It's log, log, it's big it's heavy it's wood. It's log, log, it's better than bad, it's good!' [01:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: But it's unbridged. [01:49] schestowitz-TR which is why this one was more quiet lately, better s/n [01:49] XRevan86 Should I bridge it? And if so, with what [01:49] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: there is no analogous channel in freenode afaik [01:49] schestowitz-TR the "autonomous zone" [01:49] schestowitz-TR of a crown prince [01:50] schestowitz-TR autonomous from who? [01:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye also mentioned merging channels on 3 networks yesterday [01:50] XRevan86 and I didn't understand that either, what's the third one [01:50] schestowitz-TR that's without a bridge [01:50] schestowitz-TR we don't want to bridge an unofficial channel [01:50] schestowitz-TR it would legitimise it and maybe enable abuse, too [01:51] XRevan86 schestowitz: But the logs from there are legitimatised? [01:51] schestowitz-TR for now the logs are mostly empty [01:51] schestowitz-TR zero messages in 2 days [01:52] schestowitz-TR maybe at some point more will realise they're on the wrong network for that channel [01:53] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/sen-duckworth-pushes-for-paid-leave-after-pregnancy-loss/ [01:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Sen. Duckworth pushes for paid leave for pregnancy loss | WGN-TV [01:53] DaemonFC Many jobs now don't have bereavement leave at all. [01:54] DaemonFC At my first job, my grandmother died (dad's side) and I was pretty torn up about it at work and the union steward came over and asked me what was wrong. I told him my grandmother was dying and he took me to the office and filed a bereavement leave for me. Three days leave with full pay. [01:55] DaemonFC Few jobs have that anymore. [01:55] DaemonFC Thanks to that policy, I got to go visit my grandmother in the hospital on her last day and then attend the funeral without worrying about my finances or if I'd be in trouble when I came back to work. [01:56] DaemonFC Walmart has no specific bereavement policy. You can take a day off, but then you'd better hope you don't get sick later. [01:57] DaemonFC Since there are few other jobs that would hire you (or else you wouldn't be doing retail work), you'd probably just miss your last chance to see grandma. [01:58] DaemonFC I have to balance all of Mandy's healthcare appointments around his work schedule to avoid collisions. When I was at my first job, they had a special policy they worked out in our contract with the union that let me take a week off because I had my wisdom teeth out. [01:59] techrights-news #GCC 11.2 RC1 Compiler Punted For Testing https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-11.2-RC1 #gnu #fsf #freesw #compiler [01:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GCC 11.2 RC1 Compiler Punted For Testing - Phoronix ● Jul 22 [02:01] DaemonFC If you look at what's happening with the strike against Frito-Lay, you can see how employers treat people. Like, they tell you to move someone who died out of the way so another person can just stand there and keep the line moving until they can get the body. They were making people work while the same building was currently on fire. [02:01] techrights-news "I had nearly forgotten that I was going to get a review unit." https://boilingsteam.com/launch-hands-on-with-system76s-keyboard/ [02:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Launch: Hands-On With System76's Keyboard - Boiling Steam [02:02] DaemonFC So like, there's a human being dead on the floor and instead of shutting down the line and showing some respect for half an hour until someone can get out there, there's your stupid corn chips flying past them. [02:02] Dad/fn tbh those keyboards from 76 just don't impress much [02:03] DaemonFC https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/frito-lay-assembly-line-death/ [02:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Frito-Lay Workers Allege Colleague Died on Assembly Line, Was Moved Aside | Snopes.com [02:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.78 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 17.90 swarm size (avg): 285.61 [02:05] DaemonFC Walmart passes out bonuses and then cuts hours. [02:05] Dad/fn this keyboard cost like $480+ but i'll never need another one again unless i decide to upgrade to those magnetic hall effect switches if anyone ever makes them available [02:05] DaemonFC I guess in the end it's the same thing either way except Mandy gets a few hours more at home. [02:06] Dad/fn yeah labor jobs are for the birds [02:06] Dad/fn i wouldn't do it [02:06] Dad/fn im not sure that i can [02:06] DaemonFC When they cut hours, I just look at it like, "Eh, it's less taxes I guess.". [02:06] Dad/fn i'd be taking a bathroom break one day and someone would tell me to wait for permission before they got a good solid foot up their ass [02:06] DaemonFC Because you may lose x dollars per hour, but after the government gets done 30-40% of that is gone anyway. [02:07] DaemonFC I've never worked anywhere you needed permission to use the bathroom. [02:07] schestowitz work insecurity means people tolerate worse [02:07] Dad/fn i remember it being a thing occassionally when i was a kid working kid jobs [02:07] DaemonFC One place, I'd track my production rate through the week and spend MORE time in the toilet if I was over 150%. [02:08] DaemonFC They stopped paying bonus money at 150% and if the work ran out, you'd be sweeping floors at base pay until the shift ended. [02:08] MinceR > birds [02:08] MinceR what a strange way to spell "robots" :> [02:08] DaemonFC So I'd actually get paid more to take a shit than to work at that point. [02:08] DaemonFC Because it would be $18 an hour to take a shit or $9 to sweep floors. [02:08] DaemonFC (2006) [02:09] DaemonFC I had it worked out that if I could spend an extra hour each week taking a shit to bring my production rate down then I'd pocket $936 pre-tax for that vs. half as much for sweeping the floor. [02:10] DaemonFC Of course it's so obvious that everyone but the managers could figure it out. [02:11] DaemonFC I re-ordered the tasks they would assign me to make logical sense and then achieving 180%+ of my rate was easy. [02:11] DaemonFC So naturally, instead of realizing that they were wrong, they accused me of cheating and sent the supervisor to figure out what was going on. [02:12] DaemonFC Of course, I wasn't always in the bathroom when I figured the rate was too high and I was essentially doing free extra work. [02:12] DaemonFC Sometimes I'd stand next to the gatorade cooler gulping it down. [02:13] DaemonFC This is the other side of what happens when you treat people like interchangeable parts. [02:13] DaemonFC And when you start thinking of how the company can best benefit you, you're stealing, or the moral equivalent, you know. :P [02:14] Dad/fn man i dont miss that world at all [02:14] DaemonFC Well, they try to turn it into how they can extract more from you, more more more more more. [02:15] DaemonFC Now they want to give Walmart workers "free" Android phones, with the rub of course being real time monitoring. [02:15] Dad/fn i've got 4 ideas of how and all of them would get me fired [02:15] DaemonFC I can only imagine what kind of spyware those will be loaded with. [02:16] Dad/fn there needs to be a linux distribution that consumers can put on their phones [02:17] MinceR depending on the phone, there are a few [02:17] MinceR i have postmarketOS on my pinephone [02:18] MinceR though it isn't terribly stable [02:21] DaemonFC Mandy complains about T-Mobile. [02:22] DaemonFC Yeah, they suck donkey dick and all.... [02:22] MinceR they do worse than that [02:22] DaemonFC But so does AT&T, and my bill is $100 a month post-tax for two lines, and mom's always opening up $160-170 bills from AT&T. [02:22] DaemonFC I get Hulu and AAA. She gets nothing from AT&T. [02:23] DaemonFC I go into T-Mobile if I'm having a problem with my account and they fix it. [02:23] DaemonFC She goes into the AT&T store and then half an hour later when they're done with the person who's buying a new phone, which came in after she did, they laugh at her for using last year's iPhone. [02:23] MinceR they assisted the Communist Party of Hungary (aka fidesz) with propaganda when they owned Origo, then sold it to them [02:23] MinceR they made extremely atrocious ticket machines for BKK [02:24] MinceR their "services" are expensive as hell and i'm too afraid to try them [02:24] DaemonFC Well, there's only three real carriers left that are nationwide in the US. [02:24] DaemonFC And they're gobbling up what remains of the regional ones. [02:24] MinceR afaik there are also only 3 non-virtual carriers in hungary [02:25] DaemonFC So it's always expensive and slow with places it doesn't work at all. [02:25] MinceR Telenor sold their hungarian business to some randos, who then started selling them to the hungarian state [02:25] DaemonFC Since it's easier to agree not to compete on service, they can just leave the dead zones dead and pocket your money. [02:25] MinceR and there's Vodafone [02:25] DaemonFC Trump's FCC declared that going from 4 to 3 would be better for consumers somehow. [02:27] DaemonFC Sprint spent so many years making stupid decisions about EVERYTHING and racking up debt, that the alternative was a bankruptcy sale in which T-Mobile got everything anyway and didn't even have to ask for the merger. [02:27] MinceR oh, looks like Digi isn't an MVNO either [02:29] MinceR they only operate LTE, i wonder how that works in this country [02:29] techrights-news Links 22/7/2021: NuTyX 21.07.3, GCC 11.2 RC1 http://techrights.org/2021/07/21/gcc-11-2-rc1/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/21/gcc-11-2-rc1/ [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/7/2021: NuTyX 21.07.3, GCC 11.2 RC1 | Techrights [02:31] DaemonFC T-Mobile has shut down more cell towers than it had pre-merger. It's costing them a lot of money to decommission stuff, but they really mostly bought Sprint so that they could get customers who were never going to switch to them. [02:31] DaemonFC Like me. [02:31] techrights-news ssssssssLinks for the dayLinks 22/7/2021: NuTyX 21.07.3, GCC 11.2 RC1 http://techrights.org/2021/07/21/gcc-11-2-rc1/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/21/gcc-11-2-rc1/ [02:31] DaemonFC Sprint never raised their prices, really, because they knew they had people who wouldn't tolerate a price hike. [02:31] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153673 [02:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [02:31] DaemonFC With the bargain carrier gone, the rest can hike prices now, and they do. [02:32] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153673Audiocasts/Shows: SteamDeck, FLOSS Weekly, Full Circle Magazine http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153672 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153673Audiocasts/Shows ) [02:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: SteamDeck, FLOSS Weekly, Full Circle Magazine | Tux Machines [02:32] DaemonFC If I got rid of my grandfathered Sprint plans, then I'd be paying 25% more to T-Mobile. [02:32] DaemonFC Their current "best" deal is Magenta Max, which is for people 55 years old or older, and that's about what I pay now. [02:32] MinceR :> [02:33] DaemonFC So if I make no changes to my plans, then I basically get the rate that senior citizens pay under T-Mobile. [02:33] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153671 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:34] techrights-news #FreeSoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153670 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:34] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers es.org/node/153669 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:34] DaemonFC MinceR, I was reading an article about cats that called them a murder machine. [02:34] techrights-news Microsoft, IBM, and Their Proprietary Software Front Groups [02:35] DaemonFC So every time I pet one of my cats now I go "Who's a good murder machine? Oh, you're a good murder machine aren't you? Yes!". [02:35] MinceR :3 [02:35] MinceR cutest murder machines ever [02:35] DaemonFC schestowitz, Mandy says the Philippines has rats that are bigger than the cats, and scare the cats off. [02:36] MinceR humans are more effective murder machines, but also less cute [02:37] DaemonFC Most of them anyway. [02:37] DaemonFC The vast majority. [02:38] DaemonFC Of course the modern world has given us people who would starve to death if the Whole Foods didn't have organic quinoa. [02:38] DaemonFC Among other horrors. [02:38] MinceR :> [02:39] MinceR the production, transport and sale of that probably still results in deaths of animals [02:39] DaemonFC Remember when you were a kid and dinner was like a nice big steak and some mashed potatoes and corn with butter? [02:39] MinceR and bacteria [02:39] MinceR sadly, no [02:39] MinceR steaks are rarely served here [02:39] DaemonFC Now you tell the doctor you eat that and they strip you naked and make you walk down the street being beaten while people yell "SHAME SHAME SHAME!". [02:39] MinceR people hardly even seem to be willing to buy beef [02:40] MinceR i guess they're too poor for it [02:40] MinceR and they probably were also too poor under the previous communist regime [02:40] DaemonFC Yeah, the price went up 40%. If you hold out and only buy the last day stuff and freeze it, you may still be able to buy it. [02:40] DaemonFC If it wasn't for that, we'd have almost no beef. [02:41] DaemonFC I don't ever plan to pay $20 for one ribeye at Walmart. [02:41] DaemonFC They can say whatever they want, but they're testing for price sensitivity, MinceR [02:41] DaemonFC The scamdemic is an excuse to do that. [02:41] kingoffrance https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-foundation-starts-open-source-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-survey/ As the leader in running the world's most important open source communities, lol [02:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation starts open-source diversity, equity, and inclusion survey | ZDNet [02:41] MinceR afaik even the cuts of beef are normally different here from those in the USA [02:41] MinceR though USA style cuts have probably spread somewhat more recently [02:42] kingoffrance https://www.digitalinclusionfoundation.org/opencerta here's inclusion, has to do with interoperability [02:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitalinclusionfoundation.org | OpenCerta Digital Inclusion Foundation [02:42] DaemonFC Ribeye is better on the grill than sirloin, but sirloin is perfectly good too. [02:42] MinceR kingoffrance: well, what else did you expect microsoft's propaganda media to say? :> [02:42] DaemonFC Depends on how much fat you want in the steak. [02:42] DaemonFC The sirloin is actually the leaner of the two. [02:42] kingoffrance https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-launches-first-global-challenges-marks-new-era-shared-corporate-responsibility/ ntel will work with other companies to accelerate adoption of inclusive business practices across industries by creating and implementing a Global Inclusion Index open standard. Using common metrics, it will allow the industry to track progress in area such as achieving greater levels of women and minorities in senior a [02:42] kingoffrance nd technical positions, accessible technology and equal pay. [02:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newsroom.intel.com | Intel Launches First Global Challenges, Marks a New Era of Shared Corporate Responsibility | Intel Newsroom [02:43] techrights-news #Microsoft , #IBM , and Their #ProprietarySoftware Front Groups http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153668 #LinuxFoundation #TuxMachines [02:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft, IBM, and Their Proprietary Software Front Groups | Tux Machines [02:43] kingoffrance ^^^ this is business/income, a business issue [02:43] techrights-news #Security , Hacking, and Cracking http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153667 #TuxMachines [02:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security, Hacking, and Cracking | Tux Machines [02:43] kingoffrance not software [02:43] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:43] MinceR "as the leader in running the foundation we own which finally enable us to crush the free software project we were the most afraid of,"? [02:43] kingoffrance just seeing many definitinos of "inclusive" [02:43] MinceR s/ble/bled/ [02:43] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153669 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:44] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.2) [02:44] DaemonFC I think I like that Muslim chicken better than the Tyson. [02:44] MinceR s/crush/co-opt, parasitize and finally crush/ [02:44] kingoffrance https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/linux-foundation-focuses-on-science-and-research-to-advance-diversity-and-inclusion-in-software-engineering/ mostly industry. they do say "diversity of thought" [02:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | Linux Foundation Focuses on Science and Research to Advance Diversity and Inclusion in Software Engineering - Linux Foundation [02:44] DaemonFC I grilled up some of those Tyson chicken thighs and they came out a little chewier. [02:44] MinceR lol [02:45] MinceR yeah, the ibm/microsoft hipsters are famous for their diversity of thought [02:45] DaemonFC Diversity of thought. We asked this manager what they thought before and after the head transplant. [02:45] MinceR like how diverse they all are in believing that systemd is the second coming and if you don't worship it with all your love, you're the devil [02:45] kingoffrance well most of it is business [02:45] kingoffrance "paid shills" well, maybe that is too harsh, but i see why people say that [02:45] kingoffrance its mostly just businesses [02:45] kingoffrance "industry" [02:45] MinceR yeah, similarly how mafias refer to what they do as "business" [02:46] kingoffrance lol [02:46] kingoffrance and linux foundation runs "communities" lol [02:46] MinceR oh, multiple communities? [02:46] kingoffrance lol [02:46] MinceR have they separated the microsoft kids from the vmware kids or what? [02:47] MinceR or perhaps they separated "throwing badly conceived daemons into the kernel for performance" from "promoting SJW agendas"? [02:47] DaemonFC I wonder if MARISOL plans to trade in the Beemer because Carplay updates are cut off yet, or if they didn't put that in the 2016. [02:47] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ [02:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights [02:47] DaemonFC The 2010s still had a tape deck. [02:47] MinceR oh, i forgot "dragging the Linux name through the mud" [02:47] schestowitz inclusive! http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/ [02:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Its Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights [02:47] schestowitz ICE is also inclusive [02:47] schestowitz to the point where latinx are over-represented there [02:47] DaemonFC Why would luxury cars have a tape deck in 2010? [02:47] kingoffrance well, any "inclusiveness" there's like 3 things going on here: 1) business/income/pay, positions in businesses 2) interoperability, above link was for identification/certificates 3) open source communities, not a free software issue, again, more business stuff [02:47] MinceR inclusive of various suits [02:48] kingoffrance lol [02:48] MinceR exclusive of actual free software developers [02:48] DaemonFC Most cheap cars had CD players by 2002. [02:48] schestowitz they sent Torvalds to see a therapist [02:48] DaemonFC So, I guess "luxury cars" are a bit conservative. Keeping a player for something nobody has even sold for ten years. [02:49] schestowitz in russia they send opposition leaders to mental asylums [02:49] schestowitz or dissidents too [02:49] DaemonFC MP3 is going to be eternal because you can store them on anything. [02:49] schestowitz to oppose the tyrant is a mental issue [02:49] DaemonFC NPR was reporting on them as if they were single source physical objects that required a factory in order to produce. [02:50] MinceR it is only going to be eternal if somehow humanity manages to get its shit together and not kill itself off [02:50] MinceR which is unlikely [02:50] DaemonFC That should say how captured NPR is. Everyone knows that MP3 is a software format that anyone can produce and share. [02:50] DaemonFC But they didn't mention this at all. [02:51] DaemonFC What struck me about MP3 is you can grab a compiled copy of LAME anywhere you want for Windows, but it's very hard to get a AAC encoder for Windows. [02:51] DaemonFC There's like one Russian site that compiled FDK-AAC and it was a build from 4 years ago, and that's all I could find. [02:52] DaemonFC So if they want people to use it they're not doing the format any favors with these license schemes. [02:52] MinceR it's probably even more difficult to find someone who wants to use AAC :> [02:52] DaemonFC Because MP3 is out there and people know what it is and the software is trivially easy to find. [02:52] MinceR maybe they'll fuck with patent law or its interpretation again [02:53] DaemonFC Amazon still sells MP3s. [02:53] DaemonFC I doubt that they'll close up shop on that anytime soon. [02:53] DaemonFC As long as there's a market for it and it costs them nothing to produce, why would you? [02:53] kingoffrance well i'd say if someone wants to discuss "diversity" "inclusiveness" the business/industry part needs to be kept separate. they have their own hang ups, their own ways to solve things, their own "communities" . what, are we all shareholders in intel, ibm, ms, google, apple, facebook? no. trying to brand that as "community" is intellectual dishonest for many reasons [02:54] kingoffrance *tually [02:54] AdmFubar https://boingboing.net/2021/07/19/app-adds-simulated-fan-noise-to-fanless-silent-m1-macs.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=app-adds-simulated-fan-noise-to-fanless-silent-m1-macs [02:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | App adds simulated fan noise to fanless, silent M1 Macs | Boing Boing [02:54] MinceR kingoffrance: could be [02:54] kingoffrance so, separate "real communtiy" from "for-profit businesses" and then maybe we can have a chat lol [02:54] MinceR the Linux-Destroying Foundation kicked out its actual community members years ago [02:54] kingoffrance theres no discussion with dishonest tactics like that [02:54] MinceR even microsoft shill matthew garrett complained about that [02:55] kingoffrance "could be" lol you are probably right lol [02:55] MinceR they didn't want a community, they just want to lie about having one in their press releases [02:55] kingoffrance they aren't built on a community model (whatever that is) ..for-profit businesses are not "communities" [02:56] kingoffrance stating the obvious [02:56] kingoffrance but where does the bs end? [02:56] kingoffrance they should come to the table with clean hands if they want to discuss something, not pretending to be somethign they never were, never could be, etc. [02:56] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210721.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210721.txt Read the log now... [02:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 [02:57] MinceR they're built on a bunch of sociopaths shitting into and exploiting what a bunch of smart people came up with decades ago and holding back the real community because their shitty products can't compete with it otherwise [02:57] MinceR they should not discuss anything [02:57] MinceR nobody should listen to them ever again [02:57] kingoffrance im willing to accept some loose definition of "community" but for-profit business is not in that venn diagram [02:57] kingoffrance its explicitly outside the center area lol [02:57] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210721.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210721.txt Read the log now... [02:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 [02:57] MinceR they, their products and their "services" should be left to rot [02:58] kingoffrance well, maybe not all diversity/inclusiveness is "paid shills" but the paid shills ruin it for everyone else i guess [02:58] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-210721.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-210721.txt Read the log now... [02:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 [02:59] kingoffrance diversity-washing i suppose, inclusiveness-washing [02:59] techrights-news Syncing all the things https://lwn.net/Articles/861978/ [02:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Syncing all the things [LWN.net] [02:59] MinceR real diversity and inclusiveness happens without a bunch of sociopaths making a big show of it [02:59] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-210721.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-210721.txt Read the log now... [02:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 ● Jul 22 [03:00] kingoffrance yep [03:00] MinceR hackers worked on something like Linux because they were interested in the code, not because of some marketing show put on by a bunch of suits [03:00] kingoffrance show me the irs form thats you are a "community" entity and i will take those ppl seriously [03:00] kingoffrance *that says [03:00] MinceR lol [03:01] kingoffrance they legally cannot be [03:01] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-07-21.txt [03:01] kingoffrance to my knowledge, there is no such "communtiy" entity lol [03:02] kingoffrance some would argue they are even mutually exclusive [03:02] kingoffrance i.e. "community" is waht it is with or without gov recognition etc. [03:03] techrights-news Another misstep for Audacity http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153629#comment-30359 [03:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-source dev and critic of Beijing claims Audacity owner Muse threatened him with deportation to China in row over copyright | Tux Machines [03:03] MinceR indeed [03:03] *activelow (~activelow@gti7y64ngicmn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:03] techrights-news The conclusion of the 5.14 merge window https://lwn.net/Articles/861695/ #kernel #linux [03:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The conclusion of the 5.14 merge window [LWN.net] [03:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 48.13 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 25.58 swarm size (avg): 285.58 [03:04] kingoffrance well, give them what they want [03:04] kingoffrance show us diversity numbers of shareholders [03:04] kingoffrance watch them 180 [03:05] kingoffrance those numbers need to be more inclusive [03:05] kingoffrance i bet they will change their tune fast [03:07] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 98378 total Total pages: 36837 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 1 months 13 days ago [03:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. 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It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:08] MinceR :> [03:08] MinceR only works if you take the number of shares into account [03:09] MinceR per shareholder, i mean [03:10] techrights-ipfs-bot QmdngEJ8etJ4zrerS5iXUUtfJk9kJTK9S2oDFMkDvT7NYm [03:10] techrights-news well, #IRC is not dead yet, but those wars would only help if many alternatives emerge in 66** http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210721.html#tJul%2021%2002:58:25 [03:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 [03:12] techrights-news "indeed it is problematic legitimate protest and boycott is hijacked by extremist political fringe and psycho sects, some of them under surveillance and even controlled by government" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210721.html#tJul%2021%2012:37:22 [03:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 [03:17] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [03:17] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:17] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@ahasff94ty8fc.irc) has joined #techrights [03:17] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [03:18] schestowitz https://www.reddit.com/r/u_Extension_Flatworm_2/comments/op2qu6/irc_channels_techrightsorg/ [03:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | IRC Channels: techrights.org : Extension_Flatworm_2 [03:18] schestowitz weirds [03:18] schestowitz why did someone link to it? [03:18] kingoffrance i agree with phanes (IIRC) i guess. if a private person uses their employer as some kind of "status symbol" they are effectively making themselves an extension of it and are no longer private. so, not advocating such a thing, but there has to be such a divide, unless these business people want to reorganize all their companies to be "extensions of some community" [03:18] kingoffrance and, im sure they dont want to go there lol [03:19] kingoffrance at the end of the day, you want to be communtiy not business, then you are going to have to turn things over to "community" [03:19] kingoffrance do they want that? probably not lol [03:20] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:20] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:20] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:21] techrights-news JUVE: The #UPC has lost its spark. Only real commitment can save it now ... No, UPC is illegal and unconstitutional; only #corruption can 'save' it now. #teamupc #coup #europe [03:21] kingoffrance PPP i suppose wants the appearnce of that [03:23] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [03:23] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [03:23] techrights-news No, there needs to be a realisation that the boards of appeal are just drones of corrupt management, who violate the EPC for the "Mafia" in charge of the Office ttps://www.managingip.com/article/b1ssrdnqptk17w/counsel-vico-ruling-may-spur-need-for-epc-re-write [03:23] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [03:26] techrights-news #fakepatents #uspto #ptab https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/7/20/ip-investments-group-entity-patent-determined-to-be-likely-invalid "disambiguating file types on a computer system" = #swpats [03:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | IP Investments Group entity patent determined to be likely invalid Unified Patents [03:26] techrights-news "On July 20, 2021, Unified Patents filed an ex parte reexamination against U.S. Patent 7,397,318." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/7/20/arigna-technology-limited-patent-challenged #fakepatents #uspto #ptab [03:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Arigna Technology Limited patent challenged Unified Patents [03:28] techrights-news Criminals who run the #EPO pretend that space travel was made possible due to #patents rather than in spite of them https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210721a.html [03:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - New report reveals global patenting trends in space technologies [03:29] techrights-news The #EPO is #openwashing #monopolies again https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210721.html [03:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Discover the power of EPO patent data [03:34] techrights-news #proprietarySofware ... #microsoft (crime)... #monopoly ... why would #redhat promote this crap. Should we start calling them Red Mond? [03:36] techrights-news #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bW6NPK2 [03:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | I try not to think about RAs - post regarding IBM layoffs [03:37] techrights-news "Those of us who have visibility to the reality of the internal train wreck at IBM are NOT bullish on #IBM stock." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bWuiWSZ [03:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Most Wall Street Analysts are Bulish on IBM - do you agree? - post regarding IBM layoffs [03:37] DaemonFC Windows 11 does make some interesting changes. It drops a lot of legacy baggage. [03:38] DaemonFC The remnants of the various NDIS and graphics models from Windows XP, Vista, and 7 are dropped. [03:38] techrights-news A post has been removed from the #suepo site (all the July links). If the #EPO Mafia blackmailing the union yet again? https://suepo.org/public_news/c-10 [03:38] DaemonFC If your card and video driver don't both support the latest WDDM version then it just won't install at all. [03:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-suepo.org | [03:38] DaemonFC So the entire graphics model can be removed. [03:39] DaemonFC It looks like Microsoft is tired of this tangled mess and has declared it not worth maintaining anymore. [03:39] *noteness (noteness@user/noteness) has joined #techrights [03:39] DaemonFC They lopped it off and called it Windows 10, and then Windows 10 can grind to a halt and get security patches and nothing else. [03:40] DaemonFC schestowitz, There are still Windows 10 in S Mode devices on the shelves at Best Buy and Walmart. [03:40] DaemonFC Even though Microsoft says no S Mode in 11 and you must take it out of S Mode to upgrade. 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[04:15] DaemonFC -Amazon [04:16] DaemonFC Yeah, I heard about this. [04:16] DaemonFC Capital One blocks no-interest installments from merchants because they see them as a way around paying them interest. [04:17] GNUmoon2 https://forums.puri.sm/t/yet-another-privacy-nightmare-begins-routers-sensing-our-physical-motion-through-our-houses/11709 [04:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.puri.sm | Yet another privacy nightmare begins: Routers sensing our physical motion through our houses - General security & privacy chat - Purism community [04:17] GNUmoon2 https://www.multivu.com/players/English/8441051-linksys-aware-motion-sensing-mesh-wifi/ [04:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.multivu.com | Linksys Introduces First-To-Market Motion Sensing Mesh Wifi Technology [04:18] GNUmoon2 Pay LinkSys for a cloud service to spy on your movements... [04:18] GNUmoon2 90-days "free" intro though :) [04:21] techrights-news The Optical Fibre Experience Part V http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/22/awful-optical-fibre-service/ #uk #internet #bt #openreach #TotalFailure [04:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Optical Fibre Experience Part V [04:23] AdmFubar how's that going? [04:23] schestowitz you can read it [04:25] schestowitz Part V some correspondence is shown, basically explaining what a rollercoaster it can be to get thing wired up for fibre in 2021. The sales people, who try to compel you to move to fibre, make it some like a quick and painless job (even when you challenge them on such a claim, as I did. [04:25] AdmFubar soooo still nothing! [04:26] AdmFubar damn they did fiber for me, took all about an hour and a half [04:27] schestowitz After arguing for almost an hour on the phone (there would be more hour-long conversations with BT after that) they managed to fool me into accepting the offer by giving discounts. Little did I know what I was truly getting myself into... [04:27] kingoffrance you're gonna have to get a book or something like bill maher trying to get solar power, and turn the calendar pages lol "day 34...nothing" [04:27] AdmFubar :P [04:27] schestowitz AdmFubar: what kind of home? [04:28] AdmFubar it is a house... [04:29] AdmFubar they didn't follow the usual service drop from the back as the property drop about 20ft.. they too the easy route and made the connection from the street [04:30] schestowitz Unfulfilled promises of calls, requests that I call them, waiting at home for a person to show up at unspecified times (limits what you can do on the day), several entirely pointless scheduled downtimes, not counting all the time spent corresponding, the hole in the wall, and strangers inside the house at a time of pandemic. Which then means having to clean things up afterwards (sanitising). [04:31] AdmFubar you should just sanitize them before the come in... need to have something like in the Andromeda Strain... [04:32] schestowitz People showing up without the required (and promised) equipment, contradictory advice (they cannot even keep a consistent story), lousy compensation that's a drop in the ocean compared to what I pay, and still no end in sight. [04:33] schestowitz The last thing one needs during a heatwave. I could, instead, write dozens of articles or record videos -- the type of stuff I really want to do instead of making calls to phantoms and ghosts with their false promises. [04:34] AdmFubar got any consumer investigative tv news? bad public publicity can work wonders.... [04:37] schestowitz I might just phone in a few hours to cancel [04:37] schestowitz and demand the compensation they promised [04:37] schestowitz they try to give money for you not to cancel [04:37] schestowitz but I'd take the compensation and then cancel too [04:37] schestowitz they don't deserve business [04:38] AdmFubar they must have been bought by american telecos for service that bad.... [04:39] AdmFubar does bt use their own people for the install? or another company? [04:39] schestowitz maybe not yet [04:39] schestowitz anyway, copper works mwell enough for me [04:39] schestowitz I never asked foir an upgrade [04:40] schestowitz didn't even petition for it to become available here [04:40] schestowitz they probably spend 200 quid on installation so far [04:40] schestowitz make them spend more on compensayion [04:40] schestowitz and still lose the business [04:40] schestowitz only this way they will learn [04:41] schestowitz I will be fibre-ready for the future [04:41] schestowitz we have the equipment and all [04:41] schestowitz but no line coming in [04:41] AdmFubar yeah as no one makes the switching equipment for copper anymore [04:43] schestowitz Closing complaints without resolutions (or without addressing the underlying issue) was the cream on the cake and serves to show a certain degree of arrogance (as if it's for them to decide if the customer is satisfied or not) [04:44] AdmFubar they sound like they are being run by americans...:)) [04:44] schestowitz my revenge will be: [04:44] schestowitz discourage other people moving to fibrecopper costs them more to maintain [04:45] schestowitz if I can show people it's a potentially chaotic thing becoming the experiement [04:45] schestowitz then it'll cost them even more [04:45] schestowitz I told them in July 6th on the phone [04:45] schestowitz I would be first in my area [04:45] schestowitz what if there's an issue [04:46] schestowitz and if affects only me? [04:46] schestowitz would you fix within minutes? [04:46] schestowitz I am safer with "the herd" [04:46] schestowitz it's more economic for them, not for me [04:46] schestowitz so he speaks to the managers [04:47] schestowitz says copper will be more expensive then me moving, after a discount [04:47] schestowitz save me 80- pounds in 2 years [04:48] DaemonFC It's kind of funny. Capital One blocks you from using Amazon's interest-free installment plans, but allows QVC's to go through. [04:49] DaemonFC I guess they figure nobody is shopping on QVC because they have good financial sense anyway. [04:51] schestowitz "Our advisros are available 8AM..." [04:52] schestowitz I guess sales they have not yet sent to callcentres in Asia [04:52] schestowitz when it com,es to money, not technical issues, they want better spokespeoplereps [04:52] schestowitz but if fibre breaks down [04:53] schestowitz then I can phone 24/7 and get a useless person who follows a manual and solves nothing [04:54] AdmFubar typical help center [04:55] AdmFubar hackaday has some fun ideas on their site https://hackaday.com/2021/07/21/a-new-spin-on-360-degree-displays/ [04:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A New Spin On 360 Degree Displays | Hackaday [04:58] AdmFubar ok outta here have appointment in the morning... [04:58] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights ● Jul 22 [05:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.66 swarm size (avg): 285.54 [05:11] schestowitz Ariadne: "After further considerations, taking into account the inability to reach anyone over the phone (details below in the footnote), I seriously consider just canceling the entire order. But that won't stop there; I will actively discourage other people from falling into the trap of potentially empty promises and remorse/regret. Maybe it's a BT problem, maybe British Internet issue (maybe Openreach), but whatever it is, I very much doubt we're [05:11] schestowitz prepared for a smooth transition to fibre. We're no South Korea; declaring "freedom day" (mass infection) and "independende day" (brexit for racist reasons) isn't the same as technical excellence. And heck, even from a customer support perspective there are many failures all along the way, as hopefully documented already in Parts 1-5. If cancellation of my order goes through, this will hopefully be my last post in the series, which can instead be [05:11] schestowitz summed up in long video form." [05:11] schestowitz wanna read my draft? [05:11] schestowitz ph, he lft [05:11] schestowitz oh, he left [05:14] techrights-news AFAIK, #systemd is NOT a kernel (yet) https://marketresearchtelecast.com/root-kernel-vulnerability-threatens-many-linux-distributions/109416/ [05:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketresearchtelecast.com | Root kernel vulnerability threatens many Linux distributions - Market Research Telecast [05:15] *noteness has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [05:36] psydruid > [notice] www.redhat.com | Services sessions from Red Hat Summit 2021 to catch on demand [05:36] psydruid One of the last times I tried to watch one of their "webinars" the video didn't work with Firefox and it looked like they used something proprietary, whereas before they always made sure you could just watch everything using free software and free codecs. I'm not sure anyone is still interested in their attempts at lock-in at this point. [05:44] techrights-news The Optical Fibre Experience Part VI (Im Canceling my Order and Why You Should Never Make the Mistake I Made) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/22/no-more-fibre/ #uk #internet #bt #openreach #TotalFailure [05:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Optical Fibre Experience Part VI (Im Canceling my Order and Why You Should Never Make the Mistake I Made) [05:46] techrights-news More than a week of my life wasted because of a bunch of amateurs who cannot coordinate anything and make false promises to secure SALES (money) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/22/no-more-fibre/ #uk #internet #bt #openreach #TotalFailure [05:48] DaemonFC schestowitz, Looks like I'll be back to device on the car from the insurance people. [05:48] DaemonFC MetroMile would cost less than half what the other companies want, and that would be if I paid for the entire term in full with the others. [05:49] DaemonFC I've noticed a lot of lawyers advertising "Don't pay that ticket." stuff. [05:49] DaemonFC They're right in the sense that it can start a death spiral into insurance that's all but impossible to pay because of SR-22s and license suspensions. [05:50] DaemonFC Nobody who has ever been in serious trouble started out that way all at once. You let something go, something else can happen and compound the problem later. [05:51] techrights-news Virtualization Software Comparison: #Virtuozzo vs. #OpenVZ https://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/data-center/virtualization-software-comparison-virtuozzo-vs-openvz/ [05:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | Virtualization Software Comparison: Virtuozzo vs. OpenVZ | ENP [05:51] DaemonFC schestowitz, The fat turd that was in the passenger seat moved to Mississippi aggording to his Facebook. [05:51] DaemonFC *according [05:52] techrights-news Antoine Beaupr: Hacking my Kobo Clara HD https://anarc.at/hardware/tablet/kobo-clara-hd/ [05:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anarc.at | Hacking my Kobo Clara HD - anarcat [05:53] techrights-news Networking Support For Intel's Lunar Lake Coming With Linux 5.15 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lunar-Lake-e1000e-Linux-5.15 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/22/#latest [05:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Networking Support For Intel's Lunar Lake Coming With Linux 5.15 - Phoronix [05:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts ● Jul 22 [06:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.83 swarm size (avg): 285.56 [06:10] *acer-box (~acer-box@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [06:10] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [06:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jul 22 [07:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 21.90 swarm size (avg): 285.56 [07:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:08] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:18] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:20] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:20] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@h29stqv8ereqe.irc) has joined #techrights [07:22] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [07:25] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:27] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [07:34] techrights-news The #propaganda mill of the EPO, with infinitive audacity and bribes, wants the #EPC to change to suit itself for criminals who run and rob the Office, instead of them obeying the EPC and the law. Enablers of crime, disguised as "journalists". #epo #corruption [07:38] techrights-news #Kernel: Linux 5.15 Plans and LWN Coverage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153674 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Linux 5.15 Plans and LWN Coverage | Tux Machines [07:39] techrights-news NEWS #JCS #BSD My Fanless #OpenBSD Desktop https://jcs.org/2021/07/19/desktop #UNIX [07:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jcs.org | My Fanless OpenBSD Desktop - joshua stein [07:40] techrights-news NEWS #DrewDeVault #Licensing Is GitHub a derivative work of GPL'd software? https://drewdevault.com/2021/07/04/Is-GitHub-a-derivative-work.html [07:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | Is GitHub a derivative work of GPL'd software? [07:41] techrights-news NEWS #TheConversation #Science Can consciousness be explained by quantum physics? My research takes us a step closer to finding out https://theconversation.com/can-consciousness-be-explained-by-quantum-physics-my-research-takes-us-a-step-closer-to-finding-out-164582 [07:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | Can consciousness be explained by quantum physics? My research takes us a step closer to finding out [07:42] techrights-news NEWS #VentureBeat #Hardware Rethinking employee benefits in a post-pandemic world https://venturebeat.com/2021/07/17/farming-is-finally-ready-for-robots/ [07:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Farming is finally ready for robots | VentureBeat [07:42] techrights-news NEWS #JayLittle #Hardware The Rise of #Ryzen https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2021/7/the-rise-of-ryzen [07:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jaylittle.com | Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - The Rise of Ryzen [07:42] techrights-news NEWS #DataSwamp #Hardware The Old Computer Challenge: day 7 https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-07-16-old-computer-challenge-day7.html [07:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : The Old Computer Challenge: day 7 [07:44] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge Now #Salesforce officially owns Slack https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/21/22587666/slack-acquisition-salesforce-closed-messaging-cloud it is an #espionage tool, used illegally in many places http://techrights.org/2019/07/20/slack-is-dead/ [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Salesforce closed its $27.7 billion Slack acquisition - The Verge [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slack Committed a Very Major Crime That Can Cost Many Billions If Not Trillions in Damages for Years to Come | Techrights [07:44] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware #Kaseya ransomware attack highlights cyber vulnerabilities of small businesses https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/562303-kaseya-ransomware-attack-highlights-cyber-vulnerabilities-of-small [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kaseya ransomware attack highlights cyber vulnerabilities of small businesses | TheHill [07:44] techrights-news NEWS #CryptographyEngineering #ProprietarySoftware A case against security nihilism https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2021/07/20/a-case-against-security-nihilism/ [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cryptographyengineering.com | A case against security nihilism A Few Thoughts on Cryptographic Engineering [07:46] techrights-news NEWS #CopenhagenPost #Privacy #Surveillance Danish Data Protection Agency slams National #Police for breaching data protection laws https://cphpost.dk/?p=126661 [07:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | Danish Data Protection Agency slams National Police for breaching data protection laws - The Post [07:47] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance Heres how to check your phone for #Pegasus spyware using Amnestys tool https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/21/22587234/amnesty-international-nso-pegasus-spyware-detection-tool-ios-android-guide-windows-mac [07:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Heres how to check your phone for Pegasus spyware using Amnestys tool - The Verge [07:47] techrights-news NEWS #MITTechnologyReview #Privacy #Surveillance What the latest #Pegasus spyware leaks tell us https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/07/19/1029732/nso-pegasus-spyware-leaks/ [07:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | What the latest Pegasus spyware leaks tell us | MIT Technology Review [07:48] techrights-news NEWS #PatrickBreyer #Privacy #Surveillance Pegasus Spy Software: Pirate MEP Wants To Hold Device Manufacturers Accountable https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/pegasus-spy-software-pirate-mep-wants-to-hold-device-manufacturers-accountable/ [07:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Pegasus spy software: Pirate MEP wants to hold device manufacturers accountable Patrick Breyer [07:48] techrights-news NEWS #AssociatedPress #Privacy #Surveillance Hoe no! #Facebook snafu spells trouble for gardening group https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-technology-oddities-business-gardening-9c9f431f91ba450537974758de4f14d2 [07:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apnews.com | Hoe no! Facebook snafu spells trouble for gardening group [07:49] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #IKEA is bringing in-store experience to online shopping with HEY HI https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/ikea-is-bringing-in-store-experience-to-online-shopping-with-ai/84627211 [07:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | IKEA is bringing in-store experience to online shopping with AI, IT News, ET CIO [07:51] techrights-news Almost 20 years after 9/11 (not the US coup in Chile, that's the original 9/11) the only war the US has won is the war against civil rights of American citizens [07:56] techrights-news NEWS #dawn #pk #pakistan #Censorship PTA again blocks #TikTok , says action taken over failure to remove 'inappropriate content' https://www.dawn.com/news/1636371/pta-again-blocks-tiktok-says-action-taken-over-failure-to-remove-inappropriate-content [07:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PTA again blocks TikTok, says action taken over failure to remove 'inappropriate content' - Pakistan - DAWN.COM [07:57] techrights-news NEWS #HollywoodReporter #DigitalRestrictions #DRM Netflixs Head of Physical Production Ty Warren to Exit in Reorganization (Exclusive) https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/netflix-ty-warren-physical-production-1234986134/ [07:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Ty Warren to Exit Netflix in Reorganization The Hollywood Reporter [07:58] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@5adyqrxsr3hiq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:58] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:59] techrights-news NEWS #Vox #Monopolies #Biden stacks his administration with yet another tech foe https://www.vox.com/recode/22585851/jonathen-kanter-biden-google-facebook-tech-antitrust-department-justice-tim-wu-lina-khan-apple go after the worst, don't be lectured by the worst http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ [07:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jonathan Kanter is the latest tech foe in the Biden administration - Vox [07:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights ● Jul 22 [08:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 23.63 swarm size (avg): 285.54 [08:04] techrights-news NEWS #CreativeCommons #copyright #copyrights Introducing the CC Global Summit Program Committee https://creativecommons.org/2021/07/21/introducing-the-cc-global-summit-program-committee/ [08:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Introducing the CC Global Summit Program Committee - Creative Commons [08:05] techrights-news NEWS #EveningStandardUK #copyright #copyrights Sex Pistols probably gone for good, bands former drummer tells High Court https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/steve-jones-paul-cook-sex-pistols-high-court-danny-boyle-b946738.html [08:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.standard.co.uk | Sex Pistols probably gone for good, bands former drummer tells High Court | Evening Standard [08:05] techrights-news NEWS #RollingStone #copyright #copyrights #SexPistols Spar Over Use of Music in Upcoming Danny Boyle-Directed Series Pistol https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/sex-pistols-music-tv-series-legal-dispute-1198169/ [08:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Sex Pistols Spar in Court Over Use of Music in Upcoming FX Series - Rolling Stone [08:08] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Greece Adds #OpenSubtitles to Its Pirate Site Blocklist https://torrentfreak.com/greece-adds-opensubtitles-to-its-pirate-site-blocklist-210721/ [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Greece Adds OpenSubtitles to Its Pirate Site Blocklist * TorrentFreak [08:08] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #japan #Tokyo Olympics: Sony Obtains High Court Order to Prevent Piracy https://torrentfreak.com/tokyo-olympics-sony-obtains-high-court-order-to-prevent-piracy-210721/ [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tokyo Olympics: Sony Obtains High Court Order to Prevent Piracy * TorrentFreak [08:10] techrights-news NEWS #ProPublica Tax-Funded Forest Institute in #Oregon Misled Public, May Have Broken State Law, Audit Finds https://www.propublica.org/article/tax-funded-forest-institute-in-oregon-misled-public-may-have-broken-state-law-audit-finds [08:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Tax-Funded Forest Institute in Oregon Misled Public, May Have Broken State Law, Audit Finds ProPublica [08:50] techrights-news #epo #crime #vichy #oppression #corruption http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/21/trade-union-to-epo-president-campinos-quash-unlawful-strike-restrictions/ see http://techrights.org/2021/07/07/ilo-at-epo-caseload/ [08:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Trade union to EPO president Campinos: Quash unlawful strike restrictions - Kluwer Patent Blog [08:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Among 43 New Judgments From ILO-AT, Which Oversees Dozens of Institutions, 25 (More Than 58%) Concern the EPOs Staff | Techrights ● Jul 22 [09:03] techrights-news This morning I said a post had been removed from the #suepo site (all the July links in https://suepo.org/public_news/c-10 ); later it was reinstated with an update so I am guessing they were just working on the site and temporarily (1-2 hours) offlining that post [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-suepo.org | [09:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.11 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 31.05 swarm size (avg): 285.52 [09:20] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #Fastly How #CDN Providers Break the #Internet https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/07/21/how-cdn-providers-break-the-internet/ [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How CDN Providers Break the Internet - CounterPunch.org [09:21] techrights-news NEWS #MintPressNews Lowkey: #Israel 's #Entryism and the Campaign to Create a Binational Security State https://www.mintpressnews.com/lowkey-israel-spyware-unit-8200/278004/ [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Lowkey: Israel's Entryism and the Campaign to Create a Binational Security State [09:22] techrights-news "basil is an MS apologist, or at least ignorant of the long plans leading up to the sale" -iophk https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/106617024279362378 [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "Fascinating. A good read for all those FOSSy Micr" - Mastodon - NZOSS [09:25] techrights-news #npr bribed by #billgates and #microsoft so it omits bill https://text.npr.org/1017968999 #$bribery #corruptmedia [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Everyone Heard About Jeffrey Epstein's Enablers. Few Listened To His Victims [09:26] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #AOC Calls GOP Refusal to Advance Infrastructure Bill Tactics for "Killing Time" https://truthout.org/articles/aoc-calls-gop-refusal-to-advance-infrastructure-bill-tactics-for-killing-time/ [09:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | AOC Calls GOP Refusal to Advance Infrastructure Bill Tactics for "Killing Time" [09:30] techrights-news #uae #trump https://apnews.com/article/barrack-trump-inaugural-uae-030e53361c4e6355baa7c463198a5b0b [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apnews.com | Trump inaugural committee head accused of being UAE agent [09:32] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [09:35] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #patents #monopolies 'A Death Sentence for So Many': Rich Nations Once Again Block Progress on #Vaccine #Patent Waiver https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/21/death-sentence-so-many-rich-nations-once-again-block-progress-vaccine-patent-waiver [09:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'A Death Sentence for So Many': Rich Nations Once Again Block Progress on Vaccine Patent Waiver | Common Dreams News [09:35] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Raspberry Pi turns cryptocurrency into music https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-turns-cryptocurrency-into-music/ [09:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Raspberry Pi turns cryptocurrency into music - Raspberry Pi [09:44] techrights-news 27 Minutes to Cancel #BT Order (Even Though I Was Very Clear It Needs to be Done as Soon as Possible), But Still Not Done on Compensation http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/22/canceling-bt/ [09:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive 27 Minutes to Cancel BT Order (Even Though I Was Very Clear It Needs to be Done as Soon as Possible), But Still Not Done on Compensation [09:49] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Tokyo #Olympics #SocialControlMedia Teams Are Forbidden From Showing Athletes Kneeling https://truthout.org/articles/tokyo-olympics-social-media-teams-are-forbidden-from-showing-athletes-kneeling/ [09:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Tokyo Olympics Social Media Teams Are Forbidden From Showing Athletes Kneeling [09:53] techrights-news NEWS #MintPressNews #Toka #Israel #Spyware #Malware Meet Toka, the Most Dangerous Israeli Spyware Firm You've Never Heard Of https://www.mintpressnews.com/meet-toka-the-most-dangerous-israeli-spyware-firm-youve-never-heard-of/278020/ [09:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Meet Toka, the Most Dangerous Israeli Spyware Firm You've Never Heard Of [09:55] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Misinformation Senator Amy Klobuchar Says She Has A Bill To Hold #Facebook Responsible For #Vaccine #Disinfo; But What Would The Cause Of Action Be? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210720/17225647211/senator-amy-klobuchar-says-she-has-bill-to-hold-facebook-responsible-vaccine-disinfo-what-would-cause-action-be.shtml [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Senator Amy Klobuchar Says She Has A Bill To Hold Facebook Responsible For Vaccine Disinfo; But What Would The Cause Of Action Be? | Techdirt [09:56] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Patent #monopolies #Patents #mythology Many Automakers Rely On Patents, But That Doesn't Mean All Patents Are Good For Automakers https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210720/15170747209/many-automakers-rely-patents-that-doesnt-mean-all-patents-are-good-automakers.shtml [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Many Automakers Rely On Patents, But That Doesn't Mean All Patents Are Good For Automakers | Techdirt [09:58] techrights-news Honours conditional https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/honorary-doctorate-revoked-over-incompatible-views "Controversy over honorary degree granted by Edith Cowan University highlights the risks of awarding so many" [09:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Honorary doctorate revoked over incompatible views | Times Higher Education (THE) ● Jul 22 [10:10] brianrhude/fn Hello, I'm trying to figure out whether executing software from a 3rd party website (without copying or redistributing) is at risk of copyright infringement: is this a good place to discuss the topic? [10:14] gustaf hi there [10:14] gustaf what does "executing software from a 3rd party website" mean? [10:27] activelow could mean anything, such as javascript loaded from a foreign domain, or any executable downloaded [10:27] brianrhude/fn tr-bridge, gustaf/tr: I mean directly linking to a piece of javascript distributed by another website, with the purpose of executing it in my website, without copying or redistributing it: I can understand it can be ethically questionable, but I failed to find resources about this specific case, while there's plenty about copying. [10:28] brianrhude/fn tr-bridge, activelow/tr: yes, I meant loading from a foreign domain [10:30] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:31] brianrhude/fn I'd be happy to find whether this is considered "redistributing", but I wasn't able to find an answer - sure, good question for a lawyer, I was hoping the problem is common enough I could found some literature, first. [10:33] *activelow (~activelow@cri7nrytvrwjw.irc) has joined #techrights [10:38] gustaf isn't that a huge security risk? [10:39] schestowitz activelow gets a mention in the next video [10:47] brianrhude/fn tr-bridge, gustaf/tr: it probably is, yes [10:51] activelow currently listening to the latest video schestowitz [10:54] activelow btw. most of what is involved with "hey hi" is based on research from 1950s, with both artificial neural perceptrons and natural language processing for example [10:54] activelow don't know how anyone could claim patents for inventions and maths nowadays. [10:58] activelow the most challenging aspect is writing quality software, to compete, instead of claiming patent monopoly. and studying "old" maths and science and writing quality software is the challenge, which probably requires funding of Universities, and not patents maybe. [10:59] activelow did study ANN for some weeks year 2004, and it is stunning maths of cause. ● Jul 22 [11:00] activelow btw. it was "Matlab" recommended to implement some algorithms, provided by the DT University, instead of some free and open source software. [11:01] activelow and it was some free software person who offered an unofficial lecture to teach about LaTeX, otherwise i hadn't even heard of it. the DT university offered "Microsoft Office" as mandatory course to teach about writing papers. [11:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.65 swarm size (avg): 285.52 [11:05] activelow remembering this horror 16 years later this is the reason why i argued for FSF seeking alliance with Universities, and focus their efforts there, if possible. [11:07] *mib_r3pjes (~92c86bbb@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [11:08] *mib_r3pjes has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [11:26] *acer-box has quit (connection closed) [11:26] *acer-box__ (~acer-box@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [11:29] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/07/22/irc-log-210721/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/22/irc-log-210721/ [11:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 | Techrights [11:32] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Surveillance Seventh Circuit Says (Reluctantly) That 18 Months Of Pole-Mounted Camera Surveillance Isn't Unconstitutional https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210716/16180947186/seventh-circuit-says-reluctantly-that-18-months-pole-mounted-camera-surveillance-isnt-unconstitutional.shtml [11:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Seventh Circuit Says (Reluctantly) That 18 Months Of Pole-Mounted Camera Surveillance Isn't Unconstitutional | Techdirt [11:32] schestowitz activelow: not the current, the one I am still uploading [11:38] *CrystalMath (~coderain@hkhcp4qcm2yqa.irc) has joined #techrights [11:39] techrights-news 10 Best Free and Open Source Media Players http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153675 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Free and Open Source Media Players | Tux Machines [11:39] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153676 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:42] techrights-news Radxa ROCK 3A: New Raspberry Pi-sized single-board computer arrives with two M.2 slots at an affordable price http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153526#comment-30361 [11:43] techrights-news PineTime open source smartwatch is now available for purchase http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153585#comment-30362 [11:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROCK 3A SBC brings M.2 slots for NVMe SSD, WiFi 6 to Raspberry Pi form factor | Tux Machines [11:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pine64's $30 Linux Smartwatch Launches | Tux Machines [11:59] techrights-news Novelty for the Sake of Novelty Alone is Typically a Mistake http://techrights.org/2021/07/22/novelty-complex/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/22/novelty-complex/ [11:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Novelty for the Sake of Novelty Alone is Typically a Mistake | Techrights ● Jul 22 [12:08] gustaf brianrhude: i believe the FSF has guidance regarding stuff delivered over the network, specifically Javascript [12:08] techrights-news #Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153677 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [12:47] *job has quit (connection closed) [12:47] *pandakekok9 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) ● Jul 22 [13:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 34.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 31.28 swarm size (avg): 285.49 [13:07] *pandakekok9 (~job@wikimedia-commons/pandakekok9) has joined #techrights [13:08] *job (~job@mc3e3esnrmq2i.irc) has joined #techrights [13:11] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:12] *activelow (~activelow@tyiyag2x7sdke.irc) has joined #techrights [13:34] XRevan86 Tried connecting to freenode from WeeChat just now and got "The session limit for your IP has been exceeded." [13:35] XRevan86 I only have the bridge connected am I only allowed to have one single connection now? [13:37] *aggi (~aggi___@ip5f5be946.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) has joined #techrights [13:38] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights [13:42] *aggi has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:50] Noisytoot Is your ISP using CGNAT? [13:50] XRevan86 Noisytoot: No, and it's a VPS. [13:51] Noisytoot Are there any other users in the same /64 (if it's using IPv6)? [13:53] XRevan86 Noisytoot: Don't know, it's a /128 [13:54] Noisytoot then there are [13:54] Noisytoot probably [13:54] Noisytoot usually end-user allocations are a /64 or larger, so that's probably what freenode uses for IP limits [13:59] XRevan86 OVH is greedy this way. ● Jul 22 [14:07] Noisytoot Why would anyone only give a /128? [14:09] XRevan86 Noisytoot: I don't have a sane explanation. 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[14:40] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@evijgn4nuaga4.irc) has joined #techrights [14:41] activelow ipv6 is a hazzle, mainly because my ISP excludes public ipv4 aggressively now placing my v4 into private lan behind a proxy for outbount [14:41] activelow outbound [14:42] activelow and, cgnat could be transparent too (although in violation of protocol), could, don't know [14:43] XRevan86 My local IPv6 is a /64, and I'm glad to have native IPv6 everywhere, even if on OVH it's a /128 [14:44] activelow i am angry i got no public v4 anymore currently [14:44] XRevan86 Could be worse, could be non at all. [14:45] activelow my old contract doesn't permit CGNA, and the price of 31Euros monthly for 32/2mbit is expensive too [14:45] XRevan86 activelow: So they just took it away from you? [14:45] XRevan86 Ah, new contract [14:45] DaemonFC I think I just started an argument on our anniversary. Mandy is burying us alive in crap. [14:46] activelow yes XRevan86, they said DOCSIS upgraded required a new modem/router (which is nonsense). no i did NOT sign any new contract and denied any tarriff chagne. [14:46] DaemonFC Old electronics from 2010 and 12 pair of shoes that he wore out or got tired of under the bed and an assortment of what the hell is this junk. [14:46] DaemonFC When I asked him to clean it up he said he doesn't want to go anywhere for our anniversary and will punish me by going straight home tonight. [14:47] DaemonFC Eh, doesn't bother me any. Shut yourself in there and I'll eat McDonalds. [14:47] DaemonFC Who needs an Android phone from a decade ago and a 2008 Macbook? [14:48] DaemonFC Mom suggests tossing it out one thing at a time starting a couple of weeks from now when he won't notice. He never even moves it. [14:48] DaemonFC I told her I'll move the 2008 Macbook that never moves and then I'll get five across the eyes when that's the first thing he notices when he gets home. [14:49] DaemonFC He has some sort of compulsive hoarding disorder. [14:49] XRevan86 activelow: An ISP I used for years got acquired a few years ago, and I lost a dedicated IPv4 from that too. I had other reasons to dislike the new management too, so I ditched them. Luckily I have a few other options. [14:50] activelow thing is: CGNAT is NOT "internet", it is some private LAN behind a proxy for outbound only, which is not internet. i would say ISPs are not allowed to sell this as internet. [14:50] activelow besides, my old contract does not permit CGNAT. [14:51] XRevan86 activelow: And ye didn't sign anything else well, then they just violated the contract? [14:51] activelow yes. [14:51] activelow if they don't activate ipv4 bridge mode soon, they did. [14:52] activelow and customer support said it would be no problem to enable bridge mode again, and now do not respond anymore. [14:52] XRevan86 activelow: So ye are waiting for the moment when they're passed the threshold of not providing the Internet service? [14:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:53] activelow XRevan86: do not understand the question. i have a contract which i paid 30Euros monthly for 10 years, which is 30% more expensive than competition on average. [14:54] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@a69tzupjnazgq.irc) has joined #techrights [14:54] XRevan86 activelow: SLA [14:54] techrights-news Lesson of the week (or the month) is, stop letting corporations break what already works just to introduce something newer (at risk/cost to the clients, not those corporations that use early adopters as unpaid testers) http://techrights.org/2021/07/22/novelty-complex/ [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Novelty for the Sake of Novelty Alone is Typically a Mistake | Techrights [14:55] activelow only got the old contract before KabelDeutschland was "sold" to Vodafone UK, and this contract does NOT permit CGNAT [14:56] techrights-news A new Valve game for the Steam Deck? It's not out of the realm of possibility | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/a-new-valve-game-for-the-steam-deck-its-not-out-of-the-realm-of-possibility #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/22/#latest [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A new Valve game for the Steam Deck? It's not out of the realm of possibility | GamingOnLinux [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [14:56] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:56] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:57] activelow what they had offered was a tarriff upgrade from 32mbit to 200mbit, which i do not want and do not need at all. what i pay for is internet access, which they had disabled illegaly by placing my host inside a private v4 LAN behind proxy. [14:57] techrights-news #AlchemicCutie will have you catch and farm jellies this September | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/alchemic-cutie-will-have-you-catch-and-farm-jellies-this-september #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [14:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alchemic Cutie will have you catch and farm jellies this September | GamingOnLinux [14:58] techrights-news "With its mixture of base building, tower defense and survival - Vectorio was actually pretty good at the initial release and now the code is open source." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/free-strategy-game-vectorio-opens-up-the-source-code [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free strategy game Vectorio opens up the source code | GamingOnLinux [14:58] techrights-news "With its mixture of base building, tower defense and survival - Vectorio was actually pretty good at the initial release and now the code is open source." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/free-strategy-game-vectorio-opens-up-the-source-code ● Jul 22 [15:03] techrights-news Buck Up And Drive! is a completely absurd racer that throws realism out | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/buck-up-and-drive-is-a-completely-absurd-racer-that-throws-realism-out #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/22/#latest [15:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Buck Up And Drive! is a completely absurd racer that throws realism out | GamingOnLinux [15:03] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:03] *activelow (~activelow@xi6kqaethwgay.irc) has joined #techrights [15:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.63 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 29.00 swarm size (avg): 285.49 [15:05] techrights-news " We're talking about the newly announced Linux & Chill Bundle - yes that's actually a thing now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/netflix-and-chill-nah-how-about-some-linux-a-chill [15:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Netflix and chill? Nah, how about some Linux & Chill | GamingOnLinux [15:10] activelow CGNAT with private v4 address is NOT "internet". [15:19] DaemonFC https://www.complex.com/sports/2013/09/jiffy-lube-scandal-scam/turn-down [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Reasons You Should Never Go To Jiffy Lube | Complex [15:20] DaemonFC BMW oil filters are usually not that hard to get to. [15:20] DaemonFC For some reason, many of them are right on top of the engine and just twist right off. [15:20] DaemonFC For some reason, the Germans are unfamiliar with the concept of using gravity to minimize wear and tear on the oil pump/ [15:21] DaemonFC The oil filter is usually set somewhere where it won't be significantly lower than the oil pan, but I don't know why you would put it on top of the engine. [15:23] MinceR maybe the idea is to make it easy to replace [15:23] MinceR not that it matters, considering that in the case of a BMW, the whole alleged car would need to be replaced anyway [15:23] MinceR also, they don't care about wear and tear:> [15:23] MinceR s/r:/r :/ [15:24] techrights-news #BSDNow : " #FreeBSD Performance Observability, Advance!BSD thoughts 1/2, #Lumina Desktop Maintainership Change, How to Handle Secrets on the Command Line, Like NetBSD DragonFlyBSD Now Has "COVID", and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/412 [15:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 412: Command-line secrets [15:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [15:25] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [15:25] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [15:28] techrights-news "Open leaders invite comment and critique on just about anything they can." So it's not like #ibm #redhat https://opensource.com/open-organization/21/7/manage-feedback-open-project [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to manage feedback on your open project | Opensource.com [15:28] techrights-news #LibreOffice 7.1.5 Released with 55 Bug Fixes, Still Focuses on Improving MS Office Compatibility http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153679 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.1.5 Released with 55 Bug Fixes, Still Focuses on Improving MS Office Compatibility | Tux Machines [15:28] techrights-news #Games: Valve, Linux & Chill, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153678 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Valve, Linux & Chill, and More | Tux Machines [15:31] techrights-news Jono Bacon et al for #microsoft #proprietarySoftware for violating the #gpl https://www.badvoltage.org/2021/07/22/3x32/ see http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/jono-bacon-works-for-microsoft/ [15:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.badvoltage.org | 332: Triggers Broom | Bad Voltage [15:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jono Bacon Works for Microsoft | Techrights [15:32] activelow besides, it isn't lack of v4 address space which is most concerning, it is exploding BGP routing tables, which v6 won't fix either! [15:33] techrights-news #mintCast 365.5 - The Test Drive https://mintcast.org/2021/07/22/mintcast-365-5-the-test-drive/ [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | mintCast 365.5 The Test Drive mintCast [15:33] kingoffrance "Open leaders invite comment and critique on just about anything they can." " So it's not like #ibm #redhat" lol yeah pretty much lol osi itself has that kind of "openness" too lol [15:34] techrights-news "The Ubuntu in the wild blog post ropes in the latest highlights about Ubuntu and Canonical around the world on a bi-weekly basis." https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-in-the-wild-12 http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu in the wild 22nd of July | Ubuntu [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [15:37] techrights-news AFAIK, systemd is NOT a kernel (yet https://pcper.com/2021/07/the-terrible-tuesday-for-both-linux-and-windows-sysadmins/ [15:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pcper.com | The Terrible Tuesday For Both Linux And Windows Sysadmins - PC Perspective [15:38] *job has quit (connection closed) [15:38] *pandakekok9 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:38] techrights-news #QEMU 6.1 Is On The Way For The Open-Source Linux #Virtualization Stack - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=QEMU-6.1-rc0-Released #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [15:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-QEMU 6.1 Is On The Way For The Open-Source Linux Virtualization Stack - Phoronix [15:39] techrights-news #mesa 21.2.0-rc2 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2021-July/225451.html #linux #graphics [15:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 21.2.0-rc2 [15:41] techrights-news #ibm cannot recruit. It's laying off staff and nobody is foolish enough to pursue a job there. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/7/it-careers-how-recruit-class-2021 [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT careers: How to recruit the class of 2021 | The Enterprisers Project [15:43] techrights-news #fedora (the #ibm #redhat volunteers magnet) is falling back in nostalgia as almost all the community left/move on, seeing IBM's lack of commitment https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-character-artwork-revamp/ [15:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | A revamp of our beloved Fedora characters Fedora Community Blog [15:45] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/guy.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/1134/ ) [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [15:45] techrights-news The #scammers who run #DuckDuckGo think they can fool some people into handing over their emails https://news.itsfoss.com/duckduckgo-email-protection/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | DuckDuckGo Introduces Email Protection to Hide Your Email and Block Trackers - It's FOSS News [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [15:46] XRevan86 schestowitz: Holes were found in Linux *and* systemd. [15:47] MinceR holes that are distinct from each other [15:47] techrights-news Why did #Qualys name a bug in #systemd after a decent project that does #security / #encryption and has nothing to do with systemd? Intentionally harmful googlebombing? http://techrights.org/2020/11/19/nettle-and-sequioa/ [15:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nettle and Sequioa for Encryption (as GnuPG Alternative) | Techrights [15:48] schestowitz XRevan86: which one is priv esc? [15:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: The Linux one. [15:49] XRevan86 The systemd one is denial of service. [15:49] activelow https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2021-33909 [15:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nvd.nist.gov | NVD - CVE-2021-33909 [15:50] activelow doesn't seem conclusive yet [15:50] techrights-news Sharing your shopping lists with Gulag and others. On devices that have back doors as part of the design. https://www.maketecheasier.com/must-have-reminder-apps-for-android/ [15:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 7 Must-Have Reminder Apps for Android - Make Tech Easier [15:50] activelow this one, which was NOT linux, systemd: https://github.blog/2021-06-10-privilege-escalation-polkit-root-on-linux-with-bug/ [15:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.blog | Privilege escalation with polkit: How to get root on Linux with a seven-year-old bug | The GitHub Blog [15:52] XRevan86 polkit is not part of systemd either :) [15:52] techrights-news Unbelievably unscientific survey https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/average-age-sysadmin #ibm #redhat [15:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | What's the average age of a Linux sysadmin? | Enable Sysadmin [15:52] activelow XRevan86: polkit belongs to systemd. [15:53] activelow there was another one, with sudo recently (although i am not using sudo most distros do): https://security.gentoo.org/glsa/202101-33 [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-security.gentoo.org | sudo: Multiple vulnerabilities (GLSA 202101-33) Gentoo security [15:54] XRevan86 activelow: Matchmaker? [15:54] activelow matchmaker? [15:54] XRevan86 > Someone who finds suitable dates or marriage partners for other people. [15:55] activelow why are you asking? [15:55] XRevan86 activelow: Ye just match-made systemd and polkit [15:56] techrights-news #canonical : we gave you patches for 9 months. NO MORE! https://news.itsfoss.com/ubuntu-20-10-end-of-life/ now they support #windows and #microsoft instead http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Ubuntu 20.10 Reached End of Life, Time to Upgrade! - It's FOSS News [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [15:56] techrights-news Whats New in D#ebian 11 Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153680 [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Whats New in Debian 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [15:56] XRevan86 "now kiss and merge your bugtrackers" :P [15:56] DaemonFC maybe the idea is to make it easy to replace [15:57] DaemonFC That's what made me laugh. BMW makes you take half the car apart to get to anything else and you pop the hood and the oil filter is right there. [15:57] activelow don't know what you're trying to say. polkit had a severe flaw recently, sudo too. at least my distro wasn't affected by those. not sure about the kernel CVE yet. [15:58] XRevan86 activelow: Never mind, ye probably meant "was not Linux or systemd" when mentioning the polkit bug. [15:58] XRevan86 "polkit belongs to systemd" is a very non-technical comment when discussing such a technical issue. [15:59] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat/Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153681 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines ● Jul 22 [16:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:01] activelow XRevan86: let me quote then "polkit is a system service installed by default on many Linux distributions. Its used by systemd" https://github.blog/2021-06-10-privilege-escalation-polkit-root-on-linux-with-bug/ [16:02] activelow anyway, i suspect this cannot be exploited easily with my Linux kernel setup either: https://packetstormsecurity.com/files/163621/Sequoia-A-Deep-Root-In-Linuxs-Filesystem-Layer.html [16:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packetstormsecurity.com | Sequoia: A Deep Root In Linux's Filesystem Layer Packet Storm [16:02] activelow i have removed namespaces support which the exploit relies upon [16:02] XRevan86 activelow: Ah, I see what ye mean. [16:03] DaemonFC https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/end-of-an-era-now-firefox-has-dropped-support-for-ftp-too/ar-AAMqRzO [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | End of an era: Now Firefox has dropped support for FTP, too [16:04] XRevan86 old news, but important to bring up because MSN? :) [16:04] activelow not bad: three major security flaws and my distro was not affected by any of them (not 100% sure about the kernel CVE, at least the PoC exploit wouldn't work) [16:04] DaemonFC 5,000 lines of code that's been in there for some time.... Malware threat. 30 million lines of code for the "web", most of which is draft or deprecated.....This is fine. -ZDNet [16:05] acer-box__ DaemonFC: no,MSN,. please... [16:05] XRevan86 FTP as a file download protocol has been redundant for a very long time. [16:05] acer-box__ in fact, if you want help moving to gnu/linux, we're happy to help :-) [16:06] XRevan86 No one really uses it anymore, when just installing any HTTP server gives the same thing and allows for encryption. [16:07] techrights-news #Virtualization : QEMU , Virtuozzo, and OpenVZ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153682 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:08] XRevan86 FTP as file upload may survive as FTPS, but maybe SFTP will replace it too. FileZilla supports either. [16:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Virtualization: QEMU , Virtuozzo, and OpenVZ | Tux Machines [16:09] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153683 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:09] XRevan86 So I don't really care that they dropped FTP. Atom/RSS, on the other hand, is still relevant. [16:10] XRevan86 and they removed that [16:10] activelow irc declining, nntp almost dead, FTP gone from mozilla, ISPs shutting down IPv4, javascript powered apps conquer the world [16:11] techrights-news Announcement of LibreOffice 7.1.5 Community http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153679#comment-30364 [16:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.1.5 Released with 55 Bug Fixes, Still Focuses on Improving MS Office Compatibility | Tux Machines [16:12] XRevan86 activelow: FTP is not worth saving. [16:12] schestowitz hey put effort into REMOVING it [16:12] schestowitz like they did with gopher [16:13] schestowitz millions of line of code of pure junk [16:13] schestowitz that executes foreign code on your machine [16:13] schestowitz but they're removing the lesser issue of non-issue [16:13] activelow why save? it exists for 40 years and does what is is supposed to to. and sftp extension is decent too. [16:13] schestowitz mozilla is walking dead [16:13] XRevan86 activelow: sftp is not an extension, ftps is [16:13] schestowitz ftp does not need to be scure transport [16:14] schestowitz some sites don't need to encrypt [16:14] activelow ups, my mistake, yes. i meant the ftp extension with SSL added (not ssh which is decent too) [16:14] XRevan86 schestowitz: It absolutely needs to be secure with upload. [16:14] schestowitz you can use checksum to check download integrity [16:14] XRevan86 schestowitz: With download HTTP will do the job. [16:14] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2021/07/21/1019058925/utility-bury-power-lines-wildfires-california [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | PG&E Will Bury 10,000 Miles of Power Lines So They Don't Spark Wildfires : NPR [16:14] schestowitz afaik, moz also removes sftp support [16:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: It was never there? [16:15] DaemonFC California has to bury its power lines to stop them from sparking wildfires. [16:15] DaemonFC Yeah, if they'd do something about all the illegal immigrants and campfires and cigarette butts, they'd really be talking. [16:15] schestowitz built cheaply [16:15] schestowitz they pay later [16:15] schestowitz paying in burned up poles (and forests, homes) [16:16] DaemonFC One of the worst fires in state history was a group of illegals that left their campfire smoldering. [16:16] DaemonFC Oh, I'm sorry, I mean climate change. [16:16] schestowitz that's a racist bait [16:16] schestowitz and you spread it here [16:16] DaemonFC They say everything is climate change, and a lot of it is really just dumb shit that they did. [16:17] schestowitz while you are married to one whom some will call "illegal" [16:17] DaemonFC Population rising, they waste water. Lake Mead goes down because they're using 20-30% more water. Climate change! [16:17] schestowitz anyway, keep on toic [16:17] schestowitz we spoke about FTP [16:17] schestowitz before you interjected Trumpian "IMMIGRANT BURN THE COUNTRY" [16:18] techrights-news #mozilla is just a useless #google drone now https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/21/firefox_ends_ftp_support/ [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | In a complete non-surprise, Mozilla hammers final nail in FTP's coffin by removing it from Firefox The Register [16:18] XRevan86 FTP has two use-cases, a web browser is useful only for one of them, and it's the one that's been universally replaced with HTTP as that's easier for everyone. [16:19] Dad/fn DaemonFC/tr: https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+improve+your+empathy&sxsrf=ALeKk00XTBRkEjPhyAutU7st4of3iG-B4g%3A1626967111019&ei=R4z5YP012YO1BsH2sPAF&oq=how+to+improve+your+empathy&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyAggAMgIIADIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yCAgAEBYQChAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjoHCAAQRxCwAzoFCAAQkQI6BQgAELEDOgIILkoECEEYAFDdP1ioUGCWWWgBcAJ4AIABZogBuA2SAQQyMC4 [16:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-how to improve your empathy - Google Search [16:19] Dad/fn xmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBCMABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwi99dnl_ [16:19] Dad/fn PbxAhXZQc0KHUE7DF4Q4dUDCA4&uact=5 [16:19] DaemonFC There's no wildfires or water issues that they can blame squarely on climate change. [16:20] DaemonFC Human development in general has caused many of them, but it's not climate change. [16:20] DaemonFC Like you said, people rush in there, build stuff cheaply, squander everything, and then complain when it's all gone and what's left costs a lot of money. [16:21] XRevan86 The other use-case is FileZilla [16:21] DaemonFC Humans don't consider what comes next, so if climate change is really that big of a threat, we're screwed. [16:21] techrights-news Write your first #JavaScript code | https://opensource.com/article/21/7/javascript-cheat-sheet #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #programming [16:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Write your first JavaScript code | Opensource.com [16:21] *kingoffrance "people rush in there, build stuff cheaply" cant tell if we are talking about the web or something else [16:21] MinceR the colonists were immigrants too [16:21] DaemonFC Nothing will change it. People will demand to live exactly the way they do now all the way to the scene of the crash. [16:22] MinceR maybe they should leave the land to the natives :> [16:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: Do ye run an FTP server to host your files? [16:22] DaemonFC No complaints from me. It's depressing to even live in this country. [16:22] DaemonFC All it is, is one giant slog to make money and then you have people all around you scheming on how to take it. [16:23] DaemonFC Mandy is like a bathtub drain without a stopper on money. [16:23] XRevan86 http://techrights.org/irc-archives/ this could be FTP but it's not. [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /irc-archives [16:23] DaemonFC I need to figure out where that Macbook is so I can toss it. [16:23] DaemonFC I know it's in there somewhere. [16:24] DaemonFC I'm paying to rent an apartment so he can stack junk we don't need that he never even uses from the floor to the ceiling until we don't have a bedroom anymore, and then when I say something about it I'm the bad guy. [16:24] DaemonFC This has to be some maladjustment leftover from the Philippines. [16:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [16:25] MinceR (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/LU0rfsI.mp4 [16:25] DaemonFC Like if he doesn't save 12 worn out pair of shoes then he may have to go barefoot someday. [16:25] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:25] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [16:25] DaemonFC Mom said he comes off as very stable. I told her maybe if you don't know him. [16:26] DaemonFC He has a serious mean streak and it comes out if you say why is all this junk in here. [16:26] DaemonFC The whole reason he stopped using the Macbook is because Chrome finally was throwing a warning that it was like 20 versions behind and would never support that computer again. [16:26] DaemonFC He was still using it. [16:26] XRevan86 > Mode #techrights [+o bridge] by irc.techrights.org [16:26] XRevan86 Again? Suspicious. [16:27] MinceR it quit and reconnected [16:27] XRevan86 ah, I think I messed it up, never mind [16:28] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [16:28] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:28] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [16:28] XRevan86 This one is intentional. [16:29] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [16:29] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:29] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [16:31] techrights-news #southAfrica https://citizen.co.za/news/opinion/2578031/protests-nation-pain-address-us-versus-them/ [16:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizen.co.za | Protests: A nation in pain must address the 'us versus them' battle [16:32] techrights-news #MagikEye Developer Kit enables 120 fps 3D sensing on #RaspberryPi https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/07/22/magikeye-developer-kit-enables-120-fps-3d-sensing-on-raspberry-pi/ [16:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | MagikEye Developer Kit enables 120 fps 3D sensing on Raspberry Pi - CNX Software [16:35] schestowitz XRevan86: in my personal site [16:36] DaemonFC I'm just going to have to salami slice tossing Mandy's junk a piece at a time. [16:37] DaemonFC Mom said when she was married to her exes that they'd hoard garbage and she'd just toss a little bit here and there and as long as the pile didn't look very different at any one time, they never caught on. [16:38] DaemonFC Her last one was so bad that he got an entire storage unit and put garbage there, and then when that one couldn't hold more, he got a shed delivered to their back yard. [16:38] DaemonFC schestowitz, What compels people to live around crap they don't even use? [16:39] DaemonFC Are they actually happy after they turn their place into the city dump? [16:39] techrights-news Shockingly normal number of new Debian GNU/Linux developers. I think the current DPL does a good job. https://bits.debian.org/2021/07/new-developers-2021-06.html [16:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bits.debian.org | New Debian Developers and Maintainers (May and June 2021) - Bits from Debian [16:40] techrights-news "I wanted to know which packages were using the media type application/x-xcf, which apparently is not correct (#991158). The https://codesearch.debian.net site gives the answer. (Thanks!)" http://charles.plessy.org/Debian/debi%C3%A2neries/codesearch/ [16:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-codesearch.debian.net | Debian Code Search [16:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-charles.plessy.org | Search in Debian's sources [16:46] XRevan86 schestowitz: For what purpose? [16:49] techrights-news Nobody here is wearing masks anymore, except maybe 5% (no matter the age). Based on today's tally during #heatwave ... another 84 #covid19 deaths today. THIS IS FINE! http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/18/the-united-kingdom-lacks-responsible-leadership/ [16:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The United Kingdom Lacks Responsible Leadership [16:50] techrights-news Tim Lauridsen: Pimp your Gtk application with CSS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153684 [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tim Lauridsen: Pimp your Gtk application with CSS | Tux Machines [16:53] techrights-news Pro tip: withdraw a lot of cash from the bank about once a year. Upside: better #privacy (no ATM locations info), less chance of contracting viruses from ATMs, less hassle overall... #warOnCash [16:57] techrights-news Steam Deck Desktop Mode: Initial Introduction https://tube.kockatoo.org/videos/watch/bb873877-c7d8-4b58-aaa0-274188934db5 [16:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | Steam Deck Desktop Mode: Initial Introduction - Kockatoo Tube [16:58] *inky (~inky@5.77.191.237) has joined #techrights [16:59] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:59] techrights-news #AMDVLK 2021.Q3.2 Released With New Extensions, Implicit External Sync For All GPUs https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDVLK-2021.Q3.2 [16:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDVLK 2021.Q3.2 Released With New Extensions, Implicit External Sync For All GPUs - Phoronix ● Jul 22 [17:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.13 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.95 swarm size (avg): 285.48 [17:09] techrights-news Intel Starts Bringing Up Thunder Bay Full + Prime SoC Support For Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Thunder-Bay-SoC-Linux #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/22/#latest [17:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Starts Bringing Up Thunder Bay Full + Prime SoC Support For Linux - Phoronix [17:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:11] techrights-news "The camera works with Alexa and Gulag Assistant" surveillance #espionage #listeningDevices with eyes https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/07/22/foscam-spc-wifi-spotlight-camera-review-unboxing-teardown/ [17:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Foscam SPC WiFi Spotlight Camera Review - Part1: Unboxing and Teardown - CNX Software [17:13] techrights-news Can we please stop calling cameras "HEY HI" and "artificial intelligence"? Same for hardware. Don't recycle buzzwords and this whole hype nonsense from #marketing people... [17:15] techrights-news #Graphics: AMDVLK 2021.Q3.2 and Mesa 21.2.0 RC2 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153685 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: AMDVLK 2021.Q3.2 and Mesa 21.2.0 RC2 Released | Tux Machines [17:17] techrights-news This is an interesting hardware development https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/07/22/plasticarm-is-a-functional-non-silicon-flexible-cortex-m0-microcontroller/ [17:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | PlasticArm is a functional, non-silicon, flexible Cortex-M0 microcontroller - CNX Software [17:21] techrights-news Audiocasts/Shows: KDE, mintCast, BSDNow, and TLLTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153686 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: KDE, mintCast, BSDNow, and TLLTS | Tux Machines [17:25] DaemonFC I threw away about 50 shopping bags, half of which were ripped. [17:25] DaemonFC This is getting beyond crazy. [17:25] techrights-news #linuxtechlab is posting #vpn spam now. Sadly, much of the VPN 'industry' is made up of charlatans and frauds. You can trust almost none of them, you can give away money for BS. [17:25] schestowitz DaemonFC: so reuse them [17:25] DaemonFC VPN industry is made possible by the copyright regime in the US. [17:25] schestowitz we always reuse [17:26] DaemonFC This marriage is in the mouth of madness. [17:26] DaemonFC His behavior seems like those stories I read about your crazy grandma who lived through the depression. [17:27] schestowitz you married fast [17:27] schestowitz now you peel off the layers of the onion [17:27] schestowitz like that askal stories [17:27] schestowitz aspin [17:27] schestowitz anyway, some things are redeemabke [17:28] schestowitz influence from colleagues and TV cannot [17:29] DaemonFC I married fast because I thought it would help him get away from MARISOL who is the biggest piece of work there's ever been. [17:37] techrights-news Ubuntu and Debian: Ubuntu 20.10 Reached End, Ubuntu in the Wild, and New Debian People http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153687 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Debian: Ubuntu 20.10 Reached End, Ubuntu in the Wild, and New Debian People | Tux Machines [17:38] schestowitz DaemonFC: weird reasoning [17:39] schestowitz you marry someone to help that someone get away from someone? [17:39] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153688 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:44] DaemonFC Well yeah, she had him trapped in a student visa while she exploited him badly. [17:44] techrights-news "Corporations having a certain level of control over the devices you own in your own home without your explicit awareness because it was buried in the fine print that often goes unread, or companies making you pay extra to use a device youve already paid a lot of money for" https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/deep-dives/peloton-connected-device-ownership/ [17:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Do you own a connected device? Heres why you should be wary of the Peloton lock issue. [17:44] DaemonFC Then she planned to ditch him and he really would be back in Tondo missing all of his teeth sleeping on a pile of bags in the street. [17:44] DaemonFC Instead, I get to hear about how awful I am. [17:45] DaemonFC The more I see of the people from there, the more I do see MARISOL everywhere. [17:45] DaemonFC Oh look at all my shoes. I have a Beemer so I'm important. [17:46] DaemonFC Then at home they're hoarding Amazon envelopes someone ripped open 8 months ago. [17:46] techrights-news #Audacity Developers Apologize, Revise Controversial #Privacy Policy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153689 The #GPL at work; even just the threat of forking helps users exercise control/leverage/sway [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audacity Developers Apologize, Revise Controversial Privacy Policy | Tux Machines [17:47] schestowitz sounds like bad influences [17:47] schestowitz when I met rianne 10 years ago she was still into shopping [17:47] DaemonFC I found some junk hard drive with all of those stupid "lessons" from Colleges of Lake County on them. [17:47] DaemonFC $6,000 a semester....white people bad ungh. [17:48] schestowitz now she is a vegetarian who recycles everything and watches charity videos all the time (and we donate to animals, blind people etc. [17:48] DaemonFC I'll toss it here in a month or so if he doesn't notice that I tossed a pile of his crap today. [17:48] DaemonFC I tried to take a piece from here and a piece from there so it wouldn't look hugely different. [17:48] schestowitz collecting old trash seems like a thing [17:49] DaemonFC Mom said just pitch something in the dumpster every once in a while and if he goes "Have you seen that?" jsut say "No, I don't know where you put it.". [17:49] schestowitz not in any one particular country [17:49] schestowitz your grandma did it [17:49] schestowitz but the food soiled, so it was very harmful [17:50] DaemonFC Like you said, it wasn't even at Walmart that she stocked up on 40-50 cent (at the time) canned goods. [17:50] DaemonFC It was the Marsh where the old people go and spend $2 a can. [17:50] techrights-news The #Audacity Situation Needs More Diplomacy and Less Mob Mentality (We Can Probably Remove the Malicious Features Without Forking) http://techrights.org/2021/07/06/audacity-diplomacy/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/06/audacity-diplomacy/ [17:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Audacity Situation Needs More Diplomacy and Less Mob Mentality (We Can Probably Remove the Malicious Features Without Forking) | Techrights [17:50] DaemonFC One of the costs of living here is you can't leave the window open at night. [17:51] techrights-news #KDEneon 20210722 is out https://neon.kde.org/ #kde #gnu #linux [17:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neon.kde.org | KDE neon [17:51] DaemonFC There's just too much crime. And even if it says it's 63 out, you'll suffocate if you're not running the air conditioning. [17:52] DaemonFC I tried not running the air conditioner because the weather channel said it was 63 out last night. Even stripped down to my underwear with the fan blowing on me, I was quite uncomfortable. [17:52] DaemonFC Granted I'm not in the best shape I've ever been in. [17:52] DaemonFC COVID and dealing with Mandy's antics have led me to pack on the pounds. [17:53] DaemonFC This place is bad enough that you probably don't want to go for a walk in the neighborhood. [17:53] techrights-news #linuxfoundation has once again sold a keynote slot to criminals from #Microsoft . They will promote #proprietarySoftware in an "Open Source" event. https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/the-linux-foundation-announces-conference-schedule-for-open-source-summit-embedded-linux-conference-2021/ [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | The Linux Foundation Announces Conference Schedule for Open Source Summit + Embedded Linux Conference 2021 - Linux Foundation [17:54] techrights-news The so-called 'Linux' Foundation: We don't use Linux, we don't promote Linux, we just use the name... [17:56] techrights-news Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called Linux Foundation http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/ [17:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called Linux Foundation | Techrights [17:58] *Achylles (~Achylles_@2804:431:d724:510f:d7b1:4ecb:6877:1a1a) has joined #techrights [17:59] techrights-news #linux already de facto standard as OS https://www.securityinfowatch.com/video-surveillance/video-management-software-vms/press-release/21230962/march-networks-march-networks-debuts-new-linux-version-of-its-video-management-software [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.securityinfowatch.com | March Networks debuts new Linux version of its video management software | Security Info Watch [17:59] acer-box__ https://nitter.actionsack.com/ArkGroupCo/status/1418233532888059909#m [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.actionsack.com | ARK - Access Research Knowledge (@ArkGroupCo): "EPO Examiners Should Be in Charge of EPO Policies, Not Self-Serving Politicians Who Exploit and Flaunt Diplomatic Immunity | Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/07/17/on-epc-supremacy/ #arkcardiology #arkconferences #arkgroup #arkgynecology #arkpediatrics #accessresearchknowledge" | nitter ● Jul 22 [18:05] DaemonFC https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MxIjrXUZjEBbKrfNUrnPEdoL [18:05] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/759200.jpg [18:06] DaemonFC MinceR, I find these follow-up instructions a little unclear. [18:30] schestowitz DaemonFC: enable JS [18:32] techrights-news "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #Manjaro 21.0.7 #KDE Plasma Edition and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7pKjE4azhY #gnu #linux [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux overview | Manjaro 21.0.7 KDE Plasma Edition - YouTube [18:33] techrights-news #PopOS - FULL Beginners Guide (updated for 21.04) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mySqL4bCSw [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pop!_OS - FULL Beginners Guide (updated for 21.04) - YouTube [18:33] techrights-news "This week weve been playing DOOM Eternal and buying aptX Low Latency earbuds. We discuss the Steam Deck from Valve, bring you a command line love and go over all your feedback." https://ubuntupodcast.org/2021/07/22/s14e20-claps-select-slate/ [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntupodcast.org | S14E20 Claps Select Slate | Ubuntu Podcast [18:45] techrights-news Audiocasts/Videos: Manjaro 21.0.7 KDE Plasma Edition, Pop!_OS , Ubuntu Podcast http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153690 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Videos: Manjaro 21.0.7 KDE Plasma Edition, Pop!_OS , Ubuntu Podcast | Tux Machines [18:46] techrights-news "Today I have wandered on the famous academic paper archive and suddenly a thought popped into my mind - use #Perl as the keyword in searching." http://blogs.perl.org/users/c_y_fung/2021/07/random-thought-exposure-of-perl-in-the-academic-circles.html [18:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Random Thought: Exposure of Perl in the Academic Circles | Moments on Perl or other Programming Issues [blogs.perl.org] [18:48] techrights-news "I'm pleased to announce the release of pg_validate_extugprade, version 1.0.0 beta." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/new-pg_validate_extupgrade-tool-available-2262/ [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: New pg_validate_extupgrade tool available [18:49] techrights-news Change Activities, App Menu, Data & Time Position in #Ubuntu 21.10 via Extension | UbuntuHandbook https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/07/activities-app-menu-data-time-position-ubuntu-21-10/ #UbuntuHandbook #FreeSW #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/22/#latest [18:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuhandbook.org | Change Activities, App Menu, Data & Time Position in Ubuntu 21.10 via Extension | UbuntuHandbook [18:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:54] XRevan86 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://theins.ru/news/243700 centralised social media is amazing [18:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [18:55] XRevan86 To be deemed undesirable by the Russian government is a violation of the community guidelines on Instagram. ● Jul 22 [19:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.66 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.91 swarm size (avg): 285.48 [19:04] *Achylles has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:04] *Achylles (~Achylles_@2804:431:d724:510f:d7b1:4ecb:6877:1a1a) has joined #techrights [19:19] *alextee (~alextee@bqaiucian72fn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:20] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:22] techrights-news Links 22/7/2021: Mesa 21.2 RC2 and Audacity Reverses Action http://techrights.org/2021/07/22/audacity-reverses-action/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/22/audacity-reverses-action/ [19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/7/2021: Mesa 21.2 RC2 and Audacity Reverses Action | Techrights [19:24] acer-box__ XRevan86: amazing in a bad way [19:24] acer-box__ it's toxic, I try to look away from it [19:24] acer-box__ and now even media outlets can get BANNED for it [19:25] techrights-news #AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX / ASUS ROG Strix G15 AMD Advantage On Linux x #TuxMachines [19:25] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX hines.org/node/153692 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:26] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware and #Security ww.tuxmachines.org/node/153693 #TuxMachines [19:28] techrights-news #AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX / ASUS ROG Strix G15 AMD Advantage On Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153691 #TuxMachines [19:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX / ASUS ROG Strix G15 AMD Advantage On Linux | Tux Machines [19:28] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153692 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:28] DaemonFC It's another one of those days where half the web's gone down and billions of dollars are being lost. [19:28] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware and #Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153693 #TuxMachines [19:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security | Tux Machines [19:29] DaemonFC But everyone will keep using Clown Computing tomorrow, including Amazon which can't even manage to keep their own site up lately. [19:29] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153694 #Linux #TuxMachines [19:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:29] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153695 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:29] techrights-news #FreeSoftware and Open Source Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153696 #Openwashing #zemlinPAC [19:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software and 'Open Source' Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:30] techrights-news #Devices and #OpenHardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153697 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Open Hardware | Tux Machines [19:30] techrights-news My Fanless #OpenBSD Desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153698 #BSD #UNIX #TuxMachines [19:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Fanless OpenBSD Desktop | Tux Machines [19:30] bagira/fn 5900HX seems really like it's only an improvement for gamer types and casual users [19:31] bagira/fn compared to say the 3900X [19:31] techrights-news "With Solus seeming to go from strength to strength along with a recent big release, it was time to sit down and have a chat with one of the team about the Linux distribution." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/a-chat-with-joshua-strobl-of-the-solus-linux-distribution [19:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A chat with Joshua Strobl of the Solus Linux distribution | GamingOnLinux [19:34] techrights-news "Need to access your phone files, use a USB flash drive, USB cable, or transfer over WiFi. The post #Librem5 File Transfer appeared first on Purism." https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-file-transfer/ [19:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Librem 5 File Transfer Purism [19:40] DaemonFC Taco Bell says now hiring friendly people. [19:40] DaemonFC Nobody there has ever struck me as friendly. They don't even give me the sauce I asked for many times until I look in the bag, there's no sauce, and I knock on the window. [19:41] DaemonFC People used to be a lot friendlier, even in the service industry, which has never been high wage. [19:41] DaemonFC In the mid 90s, the minimum wage was like $4.15 an hour, and you know fast food never pays much above minimum wage, and people were still nice and the place was clean. [19:42] DaemonFC Now they're all like "Hey, $16 an hour and pay for my college and free healthcare and pay for these two kids I didn't plan on, and oh by the way fuck your taco sauce!" [19:43] DaemonFC I have no idea what happened. [19:43] DaemonFC And they're no better off now that they got the Fight for 15, because all the landlords know they have at least $15 an hour and tripled the rent. [19:43] DaemonFC And they pay taxes. [19:43] bagira/fn i categorically dont eat at taco bell because of food handling concerns [19:57] MinceR i categorically don't eat at taco bell because they're not available around here [19:58] gustaf lol [19:59] gustaf none here in Sweden, but they are in Finland ● Jul 22 [20:00] gustaf there are some home-grown "tex-mex" places but it's not a huge market like burgers or pizza [20:01] MinceR there are 2 taquerias i know of in the city [20:04] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:05] *activelow (~activelow@j7sw6ffz4gfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [20:39] *isak (~isak@wk8nad45q6kek.irc) has left #techrights [20:40] *Achylles has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jul 22 [21:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 25.93 swarm size (avg): 285.45 [21:12] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/07/22/capital-one-blocks-amazons-interest-free-installment-plans/ [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Capital One blocks Amazons interest-free installment plans. BaronHK's Rants [21:13] DaemonFC There was some episode of Married With Children where Bud can't even get a foreign exchange student from a third world country to feign interest in him. [21:13] DaemonFC The more I watch that show the less I laugh at it and the more I just smile and nod. [21:15] DaemonFC schestowitz, What I don't get about Mandy's behavior is that if you're so cheap that you compulsively hoard, then why do you fritter money on junk you don't need? [21:16] DaemonFC Either you need to steal a 47 cent wash rag that was used to mop up someone else's overflowing toilet a time or two from the cheap motel, or you don't need 12 pairs of shoes and three smartphones and a tablet and a couple of laptops. [21:17] DaemonFC It seems to be some sort of neurosis. [21:19] DaemonFC If I had to pick this one apart, I'd say he has some combination of poor impulse control, generalized anxiety, and moderate OCD. [21:19] *isak (~isak@wk8nad45q6kek.irc) has joined #techrights [21:20] DaemonFC His sister has an explosive temper to the point where if a psychiatrist witnessed it, she'd be forcibly committed and drugged. [21:20] DaemonFC Her husband is covering for her and if it wasn't for him, she'd be in the looney bin. She uses her family as a way to vent because she knows what she can get away with and where, and she's probably quite different at work. [21:21] DaemonFC My grandmother was the same way, but as she got older she lost more and more of her filter. [21:22] DaemonFC I've ended up being to Mandy what Mark is to Maricel. [21:22] DaemonFC Covering up all of his deficiencies, fuck-ups, and eccentricities, being a vent for his misdirected anger, etc. [21:22] DaemonFC It's eating me alive. [21:23] DaemonFC All so he can complain about steak dinners and how the iPhone I bought him wasn't the most expensive model. [21:23] *psydruid can't stand Corbet's writings other than the (somewhat obsolete) kernel book he co-wrote about 15 years ago [21:24] DaemonFC schestowitz, I don't think it's fair to complain that there's no Linux stuff in the Philippines. [21:24] DaemonFC From what I've seen of them they wouldn't "get it" even if it was around. [21:24] DaemonFC Mandy's side of the bedroom looks like that pile of iPhones that the dude in California used in a wheelbarrow to create a "traffic jam". [21:27] DaemonFC The development history of LAME is really hard to follow even though it is open source. [21:28] DaemonFC They unfortunately chose a CVS repo on SourceForge and it won't let me see it because it refuses to send me registration emails, so I can't even view the ticket system. [21:30] DaemonFC I can see commits, but not always the discussion that led up to them. [21:30] DaemonFC To make things worse, there's a mailing list and a SourceForge Tickets system, and they use both. [21:33] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [21:33] DaemonFC One thing that bugs me about the Play Store is that there's no way to tell it not to keep a history of apps you're searching for. [21:33] DaemonFC So if someone grabs your phone they'd see a list of apps you search for, so every time you want to clear it you have to go to the setting, which is behind several menu options you won't remember. [21:33] XRevan86 DaemonFC: It was cleanable, should still be. [21:34] DaemonFC Some apps make it so you can disguise them as another app or something. [21:34] DaemonFC Then make a PIN before they'll show anything if they haven't been accessed in a while. [21:34] DaemonFC But then make you pay for that. [21:38] DaemonFC So I have to go re-title the Impala over to me next week. [21:38] DaemonFC I can barely afford to keep it running and Illinois is meanwhile passing a law that would give a state tax rebate of $4,000 so rich people can go buy a Tesla with a tax credit they don't even need. [21:38] DaemonFC This state still figures out new ways to needle me. [21:38] DaemonFC And everyone who is just trying to eek by. 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