●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 22, 2022 ●● ● Sep 22 [00:00] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]prices still the same as 10 years ago [00:00] DaemonFC The last ABS module I had to replace was on the Impala. [00:00] DaemonFC They all go bad sooner or later. [00:00] DaemonFC Mom had it replaced already. They seem to fail about every 10 years or so. [00:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:03] schestowitz[TR] "taking out all of their critics by any means necessary." [00:03] schestowitz[TR] Koffler [00:03] schestowitz[TR] obv. nazi [00:03] schestowitz[TR] he lives in austria [00:03] schestowitz[TR] cancelled [00:03] schestowitz[TR] to make way to Windows/EDGE users [00:03] schestowitz[TR] the "modereators" [00:03] schestowitz[TR] who never contributed anything to fedora [00:04] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: 750 is a lot of taxi rides [00:04] DaemonFC It is. [00:04] TR News Pale Moons Greed and Corrosive People (Boosted by Microsoft) in FOSS Communities | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/corrosive-trolls/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/21/corrosive-trolls/ [00:04] psydruid the truth is that some of these people exhibit ibm/rh/ms syndrome [00:04] TR Bot Pale Moons Greed and Corrosive People (Boosted by Microsoft) in FOSS Communities | Techrights [00:04] schestowitz[TR] now it's in gemini, too [00:04] schestowitz[TR] I enjoyed this article [00:05] psydruid if you're not wanted in some "community" you leave and never come back [00:05] schestowitz[TR] and it covers many (not all) of the key points [00:05] schestowitz[TR] it pays more to be a crook [00:05] schestowitz[TR] but that's true outside tech too [00:05] schestowitz[TR] yesterday I saw colleagues lying [00:05] psydruid but you need to have a spine for that [00:05] schestowitz[TR] toi client [00:05] schestowitz[TR] don't want to give away the whole story [00:05] schestowitz[TR] but let's say say bytemark took offline a machjine [00:05] schestowitz[TR] due to persistent lack of payments [00:05] schestowitz[TR] and then some people lied about the whole thing [00:06] schestowitz[TR] I was so disgusted [00:06] schestowitz[TR] rianne was too [00:06] schestowitz[TR] liars.... keep the job [00:06] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:06] schestowitz[TR] honest people.. SHEOOSH!!! KEEP QUIET [00:06] schestowitz[TR] emails being deleted t [00:06] schestowitz[TR] to tamper with evidence [00:06] schestowitz[TR] that's the "tech" world for you [00:06] schestowitz[TR] liars with NO TECHNICAL SKILLS [00:06] schestowitz[TR] like graveley [00:07] schestowitz[TR] plagiarist on drugs [00:07] schestowitz[TR] drug seller, too [00:07] schestowitz[TR] coming soon [00:07] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_ won't paty attention [00:07] schestowitz[TR] hen looks for some technical people to cancel [00:07] schestowitz[TR] not frauds who assault women [00:08] psydruid he should bite the bullet and cancel himself [00:08] schestowitz[TR] he does a fine job [00:08] schestowitz[TR] he is already canceled by many [00:08] schestowitz[TR] but they don't tell him [00:08] schestowitz[TR] because then he would harass them, too [00:08] schestowitz[TR] he's mentally binned by m,any kernel devs [00:08] schestowitz[TR] they don't deal with lying clowns [00:08] schestowitz[TR] they get coding and stuff done [00:09] psydruid does he still "contribute" code to any free software projects? [00:09] schestowitz[TR] no [00:09] schestowitz[TR] he pretends to [00:09] schestowitz[TR] and he uses github [00:09] schestowitz[TR] proprioetary [00:09] schestowitz[TR] microsoft [00:09] schestowitz[TR] ndsa [00:09] schestowitz[TR] NSA [00:09] schestowitz[TR] the S stands for the same security he belkieves in [00:09] schestowitz[TR] back doors basically [00:09] schestowitz[TR] "national security" [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] schestowitz[TR] security means the opposite of that [00:10] schestowitz[TR] safety does too [00:10] schestowitz[TR] privacy.. [00:11] psydruid national secrecy [00:11] schestowitz[TR] robustness to censorshiop is also security [00:11] schestowitz[TR] I spent 5 hours on ipfs today [00:11] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_ is a MASSIVE proponent of cnesorhsip [00:11] schestowitz[TR] and deplattforming people [00:11] schestowitz[TR] not for doing anything illegal, either [00:12] schestowitz[TR] some people believe that if some words hurt someone [00:12] schestowitz[TR] even if it's true [00:12] schestowitz[TR] or a corporation [00:12] schestowitz[TR] or corrupt CEO [00:13] schestowitz[TR] than it should be removed [00:13] schestowitz[TR] except [00:13] schestowitz[TR] the troll himself defames p[eople all the time [00:13] psydruid does he manage to do so? [00:13] schestowitz[TR] defamation and hurt aere not the same [00:13] schestowitz[TR] I can write truithful things [00:13] schestowitz[TR] that hurt a corrupt person [00:13] psydruid not just in the US but also in the EU and elsewhere? [00:13] schestowitz[TR] or [00:13] schestowitz[TR] you could write false things [00:13] schestowitz[TR] which is what he does [00:13] schestowitz[TR] to PROTECT corrupt companies [00:13] schestowitz[TR] and people [00:14] psydruid I can't imagine people giving 2 cents for what he does [00:14] psydruid in the most populated parts of the world at least [00:15] TR News Openwashing puff piece for ICBM at IDF today https://www.networkworld.com/article/3674141/linux-foundation-to-blaze-a-path-forward-for-mainframes.html it's proprietary and PATENTED [00:15] TR Bot Linux Foundation to blaze a path forward for mainframes | Network World [00:15] schestowitz[TR] maybe bot-boosted [00:15] schestowitz[TR] not sure how to check that in twitter [00:15] psydruid and with several countries moving to their own hardware he will onky disadvantage those in his "home" regions [00:15] schestowitz[TR] there are ways [00:16] psydruid only* [00:16] schestowitz[TR] I used to be able to identity fake accounts in twitter using a tooll [00:16] schestowitz[TR] we found that about 50% mof the EPO's "fgollowers" were fake [00:16] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:16] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:16] schestowitz[TR] like you can easily see 95% of spamnil's "views" are fake (bots) [00:16] schestowitz[TR] some people build a career on a lik,e on fruad [00:16] schestowitz[TR] like bully de blanc [00:17] schestowitz[TR] start with a lie [00:17] psydruid I don't really check things on twitter [00:17] schestowitz[TR] use a lie to get a job [00:17] schestowitz[TR] leave the job befiore they figure out you lied about your abilities [00:17] schestowitz[TR] and find a similar job [00:17] schestowitz[TR] based on that last one [00:17] schestowitz[TR] hop on [00:17] schestowitz[TR] and joke about your incompetence [00:17] schestowitz[TR] cannot code, have blue hair, became Debian Developer [00:17] schestowitz[TR] should require buildsing and maintaining several serious programs BTW [00:18] schestowitz[TR] i.e. you are required to have written some good software [00:18] schestowitz[TR] and then hop on to bullying positions [00:18] schestowitz[TR] gnome foundation [00:18] schestowitz[TR] where you can start harassing ACTUAL devs [00:18] schestowitz[TR] who do a ton of work [00:19] psydruid I've noticed bugs creeping into debian to the point I moved to bookworm on my main laptop recently, hoping that things settle when that gets frozen [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:20] psydruid and funnily enough it's faster now and KDE plasma also seems to be faster [00:20] psydruid but now Mate and XFCE are in some state of brokenness [00:21] schestowitz[TR] i use 10 and 11 [00:21] schestowitz[TR] rianne also uses both [00:21] schestowitz[TR] on 2 machines [00:21] schestowitz[TR] 11 is... ok [00:21] schestowitz[TR] but it feels like 10 was more predictable [00:21] schestowitz[TR] my sister was forced by employer from 10 to 11 [00:21] psydruid I think it's something with my hardware [00:21] schestowitz[TR] I told her to push back [00:21] schestowitz[TR] she did for a year [00:21] schestowitz[TR] when they finally moved her to 11 (was not needed) [00:22] schestowitz[TR] ot caused her chaos [00:22] schestowitz[TR] and to colleagues too [00:22] schestowitz[TR] a lot of things that worked ok in debian 10 stoped working [00:22] schestowitz[TR] and wehat for? [00:22] psydruid I ran 11 for a year when I noticed the bugs creeping in [00:22] schestowitz[TR] debian 10 stillll gets security patches [00:22] schestowitz[TR] so she said that I was right [00:22] schestowitz[TR] and now the processes she does take longer [00:22] schestowitz[TR] it was a downgrade basically [00:23] schestowitz[TR] debian pushed out its kde developers/packager [00:23] schestowitz[TR] thew person who built and maintained plasma [00:23] schestowitz[TR] they used a nasty mob [00:23] schestowitz[TR] and wqhy? [00:23] schestowitz[TR] because he edefended tso from the mob [00:23] schestowitz[TR] thatt's not acceptable [00:23] schestowitz[TR] \the canel mob founded a senior dev [00:23] schestowitz[TR] seems the goal is to make distros less stable... by "taking out" the best devs [00:24] schestowitz[TR] replacing themswiuth bully de blancs [00:24] schestowitz[TR] who only offer "blue hair" to the project [00:24] schestowitz[TR] and who discourage other people from joining the project as DM and DD [00:24] psydruid this is why I don't deal with most of these projects [00:24] schestowitz[TR] debian can not barely recruiit oine new developer per month! [00:24] schestowitz[TR] and they wonder why??? [00:24] schestowitz[TR] like EPO [00:24] schestowitz[TR] people do some reading and figure out it's not for them [00:24] schestowitz[TR] so then debian wastes money on lawyers [00:24] schestowitz[TR] to hide the facts [00:25] schestowitz[TR] supported by the cancel mob [00:25] psydruid I communicate my problems and file some bug reports to upstream projects but other than that I am usually not involved [00:25] schestowitz[TR] debian lost people [00:26] schestowitz[TR] and they try to pretend it has nothing to do with hiding the REAL toxic people [00:26] schestowitz[TR] the cancel mob [00:26] schestowitz[TR] the cancel mob claims to remove toxic people [00:26] schestowitz[TR] but the toxicity is the mnob [00:26] schestowitz[TR] and they know it [00:26] schestowitz[TR] they just want to destroy [00:26] schestowitz[TR] to take things down [00:26] schestowitz[TR] no, NOT CORPORATIONS [00:26] schestowitz[TR] communitiioes, projects [00:26] schestowitz[TR] people, volkunteers [00:26] schestowitz[TR] they take down the powerless [00:26] schestowitz[TR] they defame journaliosts [00:26] schestowitz[TR] who expose war crimes [00:27] schestowitz[TR] and this is how they try to make a living [00:27] schestowitz[TR] by attacking the VULNERABLE [00:27] schestowitz[TR] the SMLALL [00:27] schestowitz[TR] The POOR [00:27] schestowitz[TR] they aim this low [00:27] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Turns out Matt Tobin lives very close to my home town in Indiana. [00:27] schestowitz[TR] low-lives ;-) [00:27] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: bill gates doesn't bother me [00:27] DaemonFC Maybe like 10-15 miles. [00:27] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC does [00:27] schestowitz[TR] noscript is a good extension [00:28] schestowitz[TR] rianne uses it still [00:28] schestowitz[TR] along with other ad-blocking stuff [00:28] DaemonFC The toxic people take senior positions in large corporations. [00:28] schestowitz[TR] she does not allow any JS at all [00:28] schestowitz[TR] by default anyway [00:28] schestowitz[TR] and then selectively enables, like for a bank [00:28] DaemonFC Yeah, that's how I use it. [00:28] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: yes, they they hire and promote other toxic people [00:28] schestowitz[TR] same in politics [00:28] schestowitz[TR] when yuo browse trher web [00:29] DaemonFC If a page is something I really need to use and it doesn't seem SUPER sketchy and I'm having a hard time figuring it out, I can temp disable NoScript in that tab and close that tab when I'm done. [00:29] schestowitz[TR] the only code that should run is [00:29] DaemonFC And the permissions go away. [00:29] schestowitz[TR] the firefox (if you still use that) code [00:29] schestowitz[TR] or the firefox fork [00:29] schestowitz[TR] that code MIGHT be truthworthy [00:29] schestowitz[TR] and it's audited [00:29] schestowitz[TR] no JavaScript [00:29] schestowitz[TR] programs running from ruandom site not at their back end but on yoiur own machine is insanity normaklisede [00:29] schestowitz[TR] *normalised [00:29] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: The developer of MyPal, which was a browser that still supported Windows XP, claims that Matt Tobin shut him down and "censored" the source code. [00:30] DaemonFC I might ask Tobin what was up with that. MyPal's developer appears to be Russian? [00:30] schestowitz[TR] maybe there was a good reason to block it [00:30] schestowitz[TR] ittt's not My Pal [00:30] schestowitz[TR] and if it demands JS, it's presumed malware [00:30] DaemonFC The guy seems to be doxing Tobin. [00:30] schestowitz[TR] censoring malware is not cenroship [00:30] DaemonFC https://albusluna.com/mypal/index.html [00:30] schestowitz[TR] it's called TT secuirity [00:30] TR Bot Forbidden Mypal source code [00:30] schestowitz[TR] *IT [00:31] DaemonFC "However, there's a flip side. Matt has been able to focus on FOSS as much as he has because he's been on disability for mental illness. " [00:31] schestowitz[TR] so tobin upset some bad pewople [00:31] schestowitz[TR] good [00:31] DaemonFC Making fun of someone for having a mental disorder is pretty low. [00:31] schestowitz[TR] who would use XXP today? [00:31] DaemonFC If it's even true. [00:31] schestowitz[TR] heck, ANY Windows? [00:32] schestowitz[TR] they are all back doored [00:32] schestowitz[TR] Making fun of someone for having a mental disorder is pretty low.\ [00:32] schestowitz[TR] soemeimes mjg59_ would do [00:32] schestowitz[TR] and did [00:32] schestowitz[TR] except, remember [00:32] DaemonFC " We can state without uncertainty that Matt once told this writer he was a razor's edge from suicide. This isn't somebody that you'd want as a babysitter." [00:32] schestowitz[TR] the cancel mob has no mental issues [00:32] DaemonFC So are 25% of the Americans 18-24. [00:32] schestowitz[TR] they redefine their insanity as being special [00:32] DaemonFC Nobody is allowed to talk about that. [00:32] schestowitz[TR] and RMS is the crazy one [00:32] schestowitz[TR] because he - GASP - stared aty guys andn gals [00:32] schestowitz[TR] long gazes [00:33] schestowitz[TR] maybe do electric shock [00:33] DaemonFC A quarter of the American youth population sees no good future for themselves and longs to die. [00:33] DaemonFC What a country. [00:33] schestowitz[TR] to teach him noit to [00:33] schestowitz[TR] tratement with electrodes [00:33] psydruid I installed the latest build of Vista 11 in VirtualBox 7.0.0 Beta 2 yesterday choosing options that allowed me to skip logging in with a Microsoft account [00:34] psydruid Even after installing guest tools the resolution is stuck at 1024x768 [00:34] schestowitz[TR] microsoft account = ankle chain/bracelet [00:34] DaemonFC The 25% figure skyrocketed from like 11% in a single year due to the Democrat COVID shutdowns. [00:34] DaemonFC The most morally reprehensible thing that party has ever done to this country. [00:34] schestowitz[TR] ?? [00:34] XRevan86 psydruid: Try resizing the window. [00:34] schestowitz[TR] the lockdowns were done under trummp you know [00:35] psydruid So it looks like they just remove more stuff to get you to log into an account [00:35] DaemonFC It was the states doing them. [00:35] schestowitz[TR] red states did them too [00:35] DaemonFC The federal government can't implement that. [00:35] schestowitz[TR] 'red' [00:35] XRevan86 psydruid: No, guest additions should work fine. [00:35] DaemonFC Barely. [00:35] DaemonFC And more people fought back! [00:35] psydruid XRevan86: I did lots of things [00:35] schestowitz[TR] meh [00:35] schestowitz[TR] you change yhistory [00:35] DaemonFC And they put an end to that. [00:35] MinceR (no audio) https://apina.biz/190985.webm?mode=sfw [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190985.webm [00:35] DaemonFC Very quickly. [00:35] schestowitz[TR] also remember [00:35] schestowitz[TR] 'red' states are not densely populated [00:35] schestowitz[TR] the big cities are [00:36] schestowitz[TR] and they are usually blue [00:36] schestowitz[TR] so you miss out that bit [00:36] MinceR better dead than red [00:36] XRevan86 MinceR: So fluid. [00:36] DaemonFC The lefties didn't mind the lockdowns because mjg59_ can sit at home naked with his whatever. [00:36] psydruid XRevan86: it sticks to the Microsoft Basic Driver, I also told VirtualBox developers about this "today" [00:36] DaemonFC While the guy working at McDonalds loses his job. [00:36] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: when there is too much red you are dead [00:37] DaemonFC mjg59_ can amuse himself with Doordash and making people spend their money (negative net earnings) driving him a pizza because the left destroyed all the jobs. [00:37] schestowitz[TR] it's not a job [00:37] schestowitz[TR] gig economy is fuedalism [00:37] schestowitz[TR] feudalism [00:38] psydruid all of the economy is feudalism [00:38] schestowitz[TR] the lude ones are masters [00:38] schestowitz[TR] and they like slaves [00:38] schestowitz[TR] but they don't like the terminopoly [00:38] schestowitz[TR] *logy [00:38] schestowitz[TR] psydruid: increasingly, over time [00:38] schestowitz[TR] globalisation is part of it [00:38] schestowitz[TR] india and china are labour mills [00:38] schestowitz[TR] you might say, [00:38] schestowitz[TR] like in british empire [00:39] schestowitz[TR] so the western people enjopy it [00:39] schestowitz[TR] but no [00:39] schestowitz[TR] there are no jobs there [00:39] schestowitz[TR] only low-cost labour abroad [00:39] schestowitz[TR] the surplus goes to few hands [00:39] schestowitz[TR] like the "royal"/HM and affiliates [00:39] schestowitz[TR] they stockpile all the money [00:39] schestowitz[TR] whiule banksters gamble on price of foods soaring [00:39] schestowitz[TR] and then profit off that, too [00:39] schestowitz[TR] self-fulfilling prophecies [00:40] psydruid then you start revolutions and take back what's rightfully yours [00:41] schestowitz[TR] well, spying makes it harder [00:41] schestowitz[TR] russia and china are ahead [00:41] schestowitz[TR] they hack away at anything that looks like a seed [00:41] schestowitz[TR] like a famous singer who doiesn't fancy war [00:41] schestowitz[TR] and make an example of them [00:41] schestowitz[TR] in the west we have the same [00:41] schestowitz[TR] but less direct [00:41] schestowitz[TR] we have well-endowed (financially, not downstairs) losers [00:42] schestowitz[TR] who attack the well-kwnon people [00:42] schestowitz[TR] by baiting them [00:42] schestowitz[TR] and then trying to cancel them [00:42] schestowitz[TR] in saudfi sites [00:42] schestowitz[TR] sauidi is acancel on steroid [00:42] schestowitz[TR] they literally behead people, IN PUBKLIC, over nothing [00:42] schestowitz[TR] and disappear whole swaaths of people [00:43] schestowitz[TR] so the cancel mob is basically more like Wahhabi islam than progressive [00:43] schestowitz[TR] people who shout "blaphemy' [00:43] schestowitz[TR] and demand BLOOD [00:43] schestowitz[TR] and then some people who claim alephants ar egender-fluid or something [00:43] schestowitz[TR] and then demand blood if someone doe snot agree [00:44] schestowitz[TR] the tactiucs are similar [00:44] schestowitz[TR] but the marketing is different [00:44] schestowitz[TR] ikt's style veneeer etc. over substance [00:44] schestowitz[TR] \SJVN [00:44] schestowitz[TR] https://thenewstack.io/shikitega-new-malware-program-targeting-linux/ [00:44] TR Bot Shikitega: New Malware Program Targeting Linux - The New Stack [00:44] schestowitz[TR] at leasrt he threw in some rebuttals there [00:44] schestowitz[TR] but still [00:44] schestowitz[TR] and he did not call it "backdoors" [00:45] schestowitz[TR] like thwe microsoft iars did [00:45] schestowitz[TR] they nowadays call every malware for "Linux" (not) a back doors [00:45] schestowitz[TR] when the real back doors are in Windows [00:45] schestowitz[TR] seems like a coordinated FUD campaign [00:45] psydruid they know this is the end game [00:45] schestowitz[TR] yes, not much of windows [00:45] schestowitz[TR] left [00:45] schestowitz[TR] 27%? [00:46] schestowitz[TR] india seems to have started mass migration [00:46] schestowitz[TR] yesterdsy a I saw a report about sales of PCs stopping there [00:46] schestowitz[TR] just millions or the quarter [00:46] schestowitz[TR] so the PCs are reused [00:46] schestowitz[TR] plus mobile [00:46] *schestowitz[TR] checks latest [00:46] psydruid and this is without considering whatever SBC and IoT markets may grow to over the next decade [00:46] schestowitz[TR] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india/#monthly-200901-202209 [00:46] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share India | Statcounter Global Stats [00:47] schestowitz[TR] GNU/Linux 9% now [00:47] schestowitz[TR] it's rising [00:47] psydruid with each new computer type windows will look even more insignificant than before [00:47] psydruid from 90% to 30% to maybe 10% in 2030? [00:48] schestowitz[TR] https://itwire.com/hardware-and-storage/india-pc-shipments-fall-below-5m-for-first-time-in-four-quarters.html [00:48] starstreak i use linucks btw [00:48] TR Bot - India PC shipments fall below 5m for first time in four quarters [00:48] schestowitz[TR] by sam varghese [00:48] psydruid and from there fade into total obscurity [00:48] schestowitz[TR] 5m in a country with 1500m people [00:48] schestowitz[TR] that used to bring microsoft revenue [00:48] schestowitz[TR] windows oem bulk licences [00:49] schestowitz[TR] https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/finland/#monthly-200901-202209 [00:49] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share Finland | Statcounter Global Stats [00:49] MinceR 22 013802 < psydruid> all of the economy is feudalism [00:49] MinceR Resistance is Feudal. [00:49] schestowitz[TR] exercise in feudality [00:50] MinceR :) [00:53] schestowitz[TR] https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/julian-alvarez-interview-competition-for-places-63799353 [00:53] TR Bot Alvarez welcomes competition for places at City [00:54] schestowitz[TR] next door to us [00:54] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]'red' states are not densely populated [00:54] DaemonFC Yes, it's nicer to live there. [00:54] DaemonFC In some ways. [00:54] DaemonFC People aren't bidding up rents and in each other's faces and shooting at each other. [00:55] DaemonFC I mean, for the most part. If there's a shooting it makes the news with a full run down of exactly what happened because it's not another one every 2 minutes like Chicago. [00:56] DaemonFC Where you wait until the end of the day and post "Everyone in Chicago was shot today, some twice! Pritzker responds blah blah must be all those lawful gun owners again.". [00:56] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]it's not a jobschestowitz[TR]gig economy is fuedalismschestowitz[TR]feudalism [00:57] DaemonFC Never said it was a job. I said it's what people do thanks to the left destroying the job that they had before the supercold. [00:57] *darwin has quit (connection closed) [00:57] DaemonFC Down with San Francisco! [00:57] DaemonFC Fuck San Francisco! [00:58] DaemonFC All these companies laying off at once there is what they deserve. Unfortunately, there will be spillover into Real America. [00:58] DaemonFC But the harm of letting things go on like they are in the "tech" sector is even worse than having a recession and telling them to get a real job like everyone else. [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 127.86 [00:59] DaemonFC The collapse of this "tech" sector will ultimately benefit Free Software. [00:59] DaemonFC Because companies like Microsoft are the ultimate user. ● Sep 22 [01:00] psydruid That's the thing [01:00] psydruid Stop propping up the companies and they will collapse even faster [01:00] DaemonFC They're not contributing outside of some driver that runs "linux" in Hyper-V, so what do we lose if they go down? Nothing. [01:01] psydruid Don't spend a cent on any of their products and services and they will be gone in no time [01:01] psydruid That's why I actually want Microsoft to buy more game studios [01:02] psydruid Let them fail and write those acquisitions off [01:03] psydruid Those companies actually stand in the way of Real Tech used for Real Jobs [01:09] psydruid There should be more local tech communities doing actually useful work instead of settling for government and advertising money by performing surveillance on people and selling their private data [01:10] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] schestowitz[TR] the b0rg [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Nathan Lineback of ToastyTech told me that he had resorted to using MyPal for a browser. [01:20] DaemonFC He said it only came to that because everything else finally stopped running on Windows XP, including SeaMonkey. [01:20] schestowitz[TR] wo is that? [01:21] DaemonFC http://toastytech.com/ [01:21] TR Bot Nathan's Toasty Technology Page [01:21] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D361.jpg [01:21] DaemonFC He made this site a long time ago. It has a huge gallery of GUI screenshots, including ancient and bizarre operating systems. [01:21] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D707.jpg [01:22] DaemonFC AFAIK there's nothing that still runs on Windows 95 OSR 2.1 which was his preferred OS prior to getting marooned on XP. [01:22] TR News "Editorial opinions, sure, but not the original sites themselves. My reaonsing is this: if I want to see Reddit, I can go to the Reddit site. I think it actually clutters up Geminispace, and I want Geminispace to have as much "signal" as possible." gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-09-21-cdg.gmi [01:22] DaemonFC He had a copy of SeaMonkey 1.x patched up to fix some Windows 95 glitches, but I'm assuming it finally got away from him after the overhaul in 2.0. [01:27] TR News The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/ [01:27] TR Bot The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights [01:29] TR News EPO management continues to gaslight and abuse staff, even in direct violation of the EPOs rules and legal contracts http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/epo-managers-acting-deaf/ [01:29] TR Bot [Meme] EPO Abuse Continues, Managers Acting Deaf | Techrights [01:29] TR News Despite relatively quiet weeks there is no calm at the EPO; the quality of patents continues to fall and staff isnt being properly rewarded for the work http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/lscth-open-letter/ [01:29] TR Bot The EPOs Local Staff Committee The Hague (LSCTH) is Requesting Immediate Action | Techrights [01:30] TR News "Mr. GULAG has repeatedly defended Microsoft Secure Boot even though he himself admits that their Platinum-level OEM partner, Lenovo, has now sabotaged it to prevent Linux kernels from booting" http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/corrosive-trolls/ [01:30] TR Bot Pale Moons Greed and Corrosive People (Boosted by Microsoft) in FOSS Communities | Techrights [01:32] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@u7rbmzczvg554.irc) has joined #techrights [01:42] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:48] DaemonFC "Here's a non-Mozilla news-item for the pile: Starting January 4, 2021, Google will block all sign-ins to Google accounts from embedded browser frameworks. So if you're the kind of person who says "I hate the dumbing-down of modern browsers like Chrome and Firefox, I'll use an alternative like surf or uzbl or something built on QtWebKit", well, good luck. The replies suggest you can keep... [01:48] DaemonFC ...things working by adding a "yes, I promise I'm only using this browser for OAuth authentication" header to every request, but if you add that to *every* request I suspect Google will clamp down pretty quickly." [01:48] DaemonFC :/ [01:53] TR News Linux Foundation Europe a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/lf-openwashing-front-group/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/21/lf-openwashing-front-group/ [01:53] TR Bot Linux Foundation Europe a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | Techrights [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 129.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.36 ● Sep 22 [02:17] DaemonFC " And here comes the problem, as the "web standards" these days are largely designed, written, approved and implemented by Google these days. The W3C just rubberstamps them for Google, and Mozilla these days are even lifting Chromium code wholesale to keep up with the latest Chromeisms. You may even say that there are no web standards anymore, but the "standard" is what Chrome does." [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [02:23] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Rust is a major problem for SeaMonkey. [02:23] DaemonFC It's trapped on an old version of the compiler because Rust constantly breaks. [02:24] DaemonFC SeaMonkey generally disables Rust components where possible and sticks to a compiler that works with the rest. [02:26] DaemonFC "Thats putting side censorship issue" [02:27] DaemonFC aside issues [02:27] DaemonFC "The above video is long but unscriped" [02:27] DaemonFC unscripted [02:29] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:29] DaemonFC http://helmet.kafuka.org/bboard/thread.php?id=48 [02:29] TR Bot Mozilla, *sigh* - bboard [02:29] DaemonFC A four year old ongoing rant about Mozilla doing stupid things. To be fair, it is all basically true. [02:34] DaemonFC https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/18/pale-moon-30-0-out-with-important-changes/ [02:34] TR Bot Pale Moon 30.0 out with important changes - gHacks Tech News [02:35] DaemonFC M.C. Hitler went back and forth about changing the GUID and not changing it. [02:35] DaemonFC "The new release restores support for legacy Firefox extensions, which users may once again install in the browser. Pale Moon exclusive extensions need to be updated to target the Firefox GUID as well." [02:36] DaemonFC He changed it to make a Pale Moon specific GUID, and forced the extension developers to update the GUID to target Pale Moon because "Pale Moon isn't Firefox.". [02:37] DaemonFC Then he went back to Firefox's GUID because few XUL extension developers even bothered to switch GUIDs, only now the ones that did have to reset the GUID back to the legacy Firefox GUID. [02:37] DaemonFC What a mess. [02:38] DaemonFC Reading through the release notes, it seems M.C. Hitler also rejects some Mozilla security patches that do apply to Pale Moon, if he _thinks_ it is too much work to actually attack the vulnerabilities. [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-210922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-210922.txt [02:39] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 [02:39] DaemonFC So in other words, there's definitely unpatched CVEs piling up in Pale Moon and whether M.C Hitler patches them or not is sort of arbitrary. [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-210922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-210922.txt [02:40] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 [02:41] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-210922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-210922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-210922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-210922.txt [02:41] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 [02:41] DaemonFC "Firefox is less likely to run out of memory on Linux and performs more efficiently for the rest of the system when memory runs low." in Firefox 105 release notes. [02:42] DaemonFC Which change was this landed in? [02:42] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-210922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-210922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-210922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-210922.txt [02:42] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 [02:45] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-09-21.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-09-21.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:58] DaemonFC https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1707590 [02:58] TR Bot 1707590 - Initial implementation for JXL [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 83.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 133.90 ● Sep 22 [03:00] DaemonFC That does sound good. [03:00] DaemonFC JPEG bloat is a serious problem, but it's small compared to JavaScript bloat and huge style sheets and Web fonts. [03:02] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 152211 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42685 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 18 days ago [03:02] DaemonFC https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/uxp/issues/58?lang=bg-BG [03:02] TR Bot #58 - Get rid of rust - UXP - Pale Moon repositories [03:03] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: "We'll never use Rust components in UXP." [03:03] DaemonFC Okay, well, there's something going for it. [03:03] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 48 GB TotalOut: 13 GB [03:03] DaemonFC "We'll never use Rust components in UXP, so we need to get rid of what is weaved into the tree: [03:03] DaemonFC MOZ_RUST_MP4PARSE and MP4 parser components [03:04] DaemonFC MOZ_RUST_URLPARSE and URL parser components [03:04] DaemonFC Rust NSString replacement [03:04] DaemonFC MOZ_RUST build system and rust compiler, etc." [03:04] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:04] DaemonFC The Rust replacement for the URLPARSE component was said because it handled untrusted input, but then they bloated the new URLPARSE by adding all kinds of crazy shit to it, including a moz://a URL handler. [03:05] DaemonFC We're just running out of Web browsers that have no Rust in them at all. [03:06] DaemonFC I don't think GNOME Web and WebkitGTK do, but Apple said they were "interested" in Rust. [03:06] DaemonFC So perhaps that's just a matter of time. [03:15] DaemonFC https://old.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/qnrelp/pale_moon_is_clearly_incompatible_with_the_bsds/ [03:15] TR Bot Pale Moon is clearly incompatible with the BSDs, so for a rust-free Gecko-type browser, why not Arctic Fox? : BSD [03:15] DaemonFC " But BSD? Never again, the multi-year crusade against us for poor word order and a succession of incompetent developers/contributors trying to expand BSD capability has gone wrong too many times. Not one has ever BOTHERED to keep non-BSD building in mind." [03:17] DaemonFC So Matt Tobin said, 10 months ago, that Pale Moon on BSD wasn't going to happen again because BSD devs would constantly break the builds on non-BSD systems with "incompetent" patches. [03:17] DaemonFC And then PM devs would have to go back and correct or back out the patch and eventually they gave up. That's fair enough. [03:17] DaemonFC But to suggest that taking open source PM code, not using the branding, and to come up with an unbranded variant for Windows XP or BSD systems is "stealing" is not correct. [03:19] DaemonFC Most of Pale Moon itself was written by Mozilla. Releasing it as Pale Moon is fine because they're not misrepresenting it as Firefox or as a Mozilla product. [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [03:21] DaemonFC "Some platforms have no Rust compiler. Right now, OpenBSD/macppc and OpenBSD/powerpc64 have no Rust compiler, but some other PowerPC platforms might have one." [03:21] DaemonFC So Pale Moon can be ported to those (unbranded) but nothing recent from Mozilla, or even SeaMonkey. Interesting. [03:22] DaemonFC "In the meantime, Mozilla doesn't allow official branding on NetBSD builds, so we have 'Nightly' in place of Firefox. And thanks God, nobody cares." [03:23] DaemonFC You could always grab the source and configure it with --enable-branding if you want yours to say Firefox for some reason, but you'd be in trouble if you share it. [03:25] DaemonFC MinceR: Apparently, the NetBSD change that Mozilla doesn't like patched out the Pulseaudio dependency. [03:41] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) [03:56] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:57] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: BTC-USD fell another $1,000 on the Fed's latest hike. [03:58] DaemonFC Also, Biden's new "crypto" regulations. [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 89.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 142.65 ● Sep 22 [04:15] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:38] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/21/waukegan-man-arrested-after-allegedly-confronting-woman-with-ar-15-pistol-during-altercation-over-affair-in-waukegan/ [04:38] TR Bot Waukegan man arrested after allegedly confronting woman with AR-15 pistol during altercation over affair in Waukegan [04:39] highest_cubist_thrills i know this channel is dead now, but i tried #techpol and licenses/law arent politics, so i gave up (enjoy the netsplit) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aGSKrC7dGcY [04:39] TR Bot Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence (Official Video) - Invidious [04:40] highest_cubist_thrills but anyway [04:40] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=S1xxcKCGljY [04:40] TR Bot Men | ContraPoints - Invidious [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 60.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 141.53 ● Sep 22 [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:30] DaemonFC If Matt Tobin is violating the MPL, probably the only people who could do something about it are Mozilla. And they probably don't care about the violations. His alleged violations are regarding the Interlink UXP email client. [05:31] DaemonFC RMS commented on Florida flying the illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard. [05:32] DaemonFC He's probably upset because people in Massachusetts (where he lives) normally don't get very many of them and weren't planning on having to mobilize to do anything for them. [05:32] DaemonFC Texas is right on the border and has millions and is sick of it, so they're busing them all over the place to lefty states that passed "sanctuary" laws. [05:33] DaemonFC I don't see what's wrong with that. Give them what they say they want. [05:33] DaemonFC "Immigrants are welcome here!" [05:33] DaemonFC And then when they arrive, they of course....well, are not. [05:33] DaemonFC They should start busing thousands of them to San Francisco. [05:34] DaemonFC It's Nancy Pelosi's district, and it's where Matt GULAG lives. [05:34] DaemonFC So how can you lose? [05:34] DaemonFC Their city government doesn't seem to have much to do except fine people and make them prove a driveway is for parking cars. [05:34] DaemonFC So sounds like they need more problems.\ [05:34] CrystalMath oh. Matt Tobin, that's the friend of that horrible palemoon developer guy? [05:35] DaemonFC CrystalMathoh. Matt Tobin, that's the friend of that horrible palemoon developer guy? [05:35] DaemonFC They had a falling out. [05:36] CrystalMath DaemonFC: lol [05:42] AdmFubar yeah those immigrants will make great new democratic voters! [05:44] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [05:48] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@v5ec3gzucjux6.irc) has joined #techrights [05:48] DaemonFC It seems that Ambassador IRC can't connect to Libera Chat. [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 91.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 150.18 ● Sep 22 [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:29] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/metra-train-fatally-strikes-pedestrian-in-mount-prospect/ [06:29] TR Bot Metra train fatally strikes woman in Mount Prospect | WGN-TV [06:29] DaemonFC "A spokesperson said that the train was traveling express and was not scheduled to stop at Mount Prospect." [06:29] DaemonFC Well, that's the way to do it. [06:30] AdmFubar it's the robot uprising! [06:32] AdmFubar don't lay on the floor.... your roomba will suck the blood outta ya like a vampire! [06:42] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-uk-workers-partial-day-off-queen-funeral-2022-9?utm_campaign=sf-bi-main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com [06:42] TR Bot Amazon Didn't Give Warehouse Workers Full Day Off for Queen's Funeral [06:42] DaemonFC You can like, watch the state funeral on-site for 90 minutes of personal time! [06:42] DaemonFC LOL [06:43] DaemonFC "The part-time worker told Insider he took some of his personal time off so he could watch the funeral with his family. [06:43] DaemonFC "This is never going to happen again in my lifetime," he told Insider. [06:43] DaemonFC "You've got to think of what she sacrificed all her life, and I think this is the right thing to do," he added." [06:43] DaemonFC The Queen "sacrificed"? [06:44] DaemonFC Gee, I want to sacrifice too, if sacrifice means living in a palace, on $50 million a year of taxpayer money, and pay no taxes, and be above the law. [06:48] AdmFubar she sacrificed all that tax money [06:53] DaemonFC Yeah, where did all of that go? I wonder if Roy knows. [06:54] AdmFubar I thought this was going to be more medical oriented https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/22/evil-colon-attacks/ [06:54] TR Bot What you need to know about Evil-Colon attacks - Help Net Security [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 149.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 115.38 ● Sep 22 [07:07] AdmFubar oh you are way of on the money amount my dear.... [07:10] DaemonFC https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V4LkqdD-26o [07:11] TR Bot ABS Pump Failure Symptoms How To Test And Fix! - Invidious [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:22] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [08:23] matteobin Good morning everyone! [08:41] *matteobin has quit (Quit: leaving) [08:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [08:45] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [08:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:49] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [08:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [08:51] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, September 21, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:51] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [08:51] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:51] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:52] TR News There are currently loads of puff pieces (mindless corporate fluff, no technical considerations) about Rust coming to Linux in the sense that Linux will become dependent on a monstrous shebang controlled by Microsoft proprietary software; a lot of developers very well understand the risk, but it feels like nobody wants to face the mob http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/ [08:52] TR Bot The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights [08:53] TR News Pilot Priority List https://xkcd.com/2675/ [08:53] TR Bot Pilot Priority List [08:54] TR News (NEW): Find Whether your USB Devices are Connected to Your Linux System using CLI & GUI Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/find_usb_information.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/find_usb_information.gmi [08:54] TR Bot Tux Machines Find Whether your USB Devices are Connected to Your Linux System using CLI & GUI Tools [08:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:56] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [08:58] TR News "Here's a rather useful feature Valve just added to a recent release of the Steam Beta Client." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/steam-beta-lets-you-create-a-collection-filtered-by-games-you-and-friends-own/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:58] TR Bot Beta lets you create a collection filtered by games you and friends own | GamingOnLinux [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.63 k/sec., IPFS upstream 84.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 137.55 [08:59] TR News "While plenty of people use apps like Lutris, Heroic and Bottles there's also Minigalaxy which is a dedicated launcher just for GOG on Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/minigalaxy-a-simple-open-source-gog-client-for-linux-adds-lots-of-new-features/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:59] TR Bot a simple open source GOG client for Linux adds lots of new features | GamingOnLinux [08:59] TR News "Zoria: Age of Shattering from Tiny Trinket Games is not a name I've mentioned for a while but the developer is back with an updated demo" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/isometric-fantasy-rpg-zoria-age-of-shattering-gets-a-new-demo-and-kickstarter/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:59] TR Bot fantasy RPG Zoria: Age of Shattering gets a new demo and Kickstarter | GamingOnLinux ● Sep 22 [09:00] TR News "Unfortunately, Scathe in its current form doesnt hold baby demons first fireball to its recent Doom forebears" https://boilingsteam.com/scathe-review-impressions/ | Source: Boiling Steam [09:00] TR Bot Scathe: Not The Doom You Are Looking For - Boiling Steam [09:00] TR News "Lately Ive been having some weird problems with CircleCI and some of my OSS projects (most recently CIDER)" https://batsov.com/articles/2022/09/20/resetting-circleci-checkout-ssh-keys/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov [09:00] TR Bot Resetting CircleCI Checkout SSH Keys - (think) [09:00] TR News "this means that ZFS does synchronous writes twice" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSZILSafeDirectWrites | Source: uni Toronto [09:00] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/solaris/ZFSZILSafeDirectWrites [09:02] TR News IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/22/irc-log-210922/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/22/irc-log-210922/ [09:02] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 | Techrights [09:09] matteobin I'm listening right now to the video about Rust in Linux. [09:10] TR News "Enter guix shell. If you are lucky, that project you want to hack on is one of the 21000+ packages available in Guix." https://gexp.no/blog/hacking-anything-with-gnu-guix.html | [09:10] TR Bot Hacking anything with GNU Guix - Grasping gexps [09:10] TR News "Betterbird 91.13.1 released on 13th September 2022" https://betterbird.eu/ | [09:10] TR Bot Betterbird. Simply better. 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Let's Experiment! - WebPageTest Blog [09:12] TR News "Did you miss the old Firefox's feed reader feature? You can take it back by using Smart RSS" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/09/firefox-and-smart-rss-find-our-feed-reader-again.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [09:12] TR Bot Firefox and Smart RSS: Find Our Feed Reader Again [09:13] TR News "We have finished publishing a collection of very basic Calc Spreadsheet tutorials for beginner grade since January 2022" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/09/libreoffice-calc-spreadsheet-basic-tutorials-collection.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [09:13] TR Bot LibreOffice Calc Spreadsheet Basic Tutorials Collection [09:14] TR News "The pages of Open Circuits contain ample inspiration for both novices and grizzled veterans alike." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6558 | Source: Bunnie Huang [09:14] TR Bot Book Review: Open Circuits bunnie's blog [09:14] TR News "Lightbend made Akka proprietary from version 2.7.x onward. This left the community wondering about the possibility of a fork" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/21/akka-fork-fud/ | Source: Alexandru Nedelcu [09:14] TR Bot Akka Fork FUD - Alexandru Nedelcu [09:15] TR News About 90% of the Linux Foundations money is spent in the United States (see IRS filing); its not global but a front for American corporate interests so adding Europe to the name is misleading to say the least; http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/lf-openwashing-front-group/ [09:15] TR Bot Linux Foundation Europe a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | Techrights [09:16] TR News My Contribution to Launching React Router 6.4 https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/my-contribution-to-react-router/ | Source: Jim Nielsen [09:16] TR Bot My Contribution to Launching React Router 6.4 - Jim Nielsens Blog [09:17] TR News "TTX is a Python script for reading the teletext pages published by SVT, Sweden's public service television company." https://www.datagubbe.se/ttx/ | Source: Carl Svensson [09:17] TR Bot - Swedish Teletext reader | datagubbe.se [09:17] TR News "The new release includes a substantial number of bug fixes and minor improvements." https://itwire.com/business-it-news/business-software/java-19-arrives.html | Source: IT Wire [09:17] TR Bot - Java 19 arrives [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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    Enhance your astrophotography quality with this automatic lens heater
    [09:30] TR Bot Enhance your astrophotography quality with this automatic lens heater | Arduino Blog [09:30] schestowitz
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    Nighttime photography, and especially astrophotography, requires very long exposure. To get a good picture of the stars, you might leave the shutter open for several minutes. That gives nature plenty of time to produce dew on your lens, which can ruin the photo. The solution is a lens heater, but running that heater all night can consume a lot of power. Thats why Andrew Brocklesby built this automated [09:30] schestowitz lens heater that only activates when necessary.

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[09:38] schestowitz[TR] hopefully covered the key things [09:38] schestowitz[TR] not scripted [09:40] *matteobin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:42] TR News "The vulnerability is present in the desktop versions of Teams for Windows, macOS and Linux." https://www.ghacks.net/2022/09/16/microsoft-teams-is-storing-authentication-tokens-in-cleartext/ | Source: Ghacks [09:42] TR Bot Microsoft Teams is storing authentication tokens in cleartext. - gHacks Tech News [09:42] TR News "Security firm Vectra Protect claims the weakness affects the desktop app for Windows, Mac, and Linux" https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4056512/microsoft-teams-stores-authentication-tokens-plaintext | Source: Computing UK [09:42] TR Bot Microsoft Teams stores authentication tokens in plaintext [09:42] TR News "The affair also raises suspicions of performative tokenism on the part of some tech giants" https://www.cyberscoop.com/twitter-mudge-survival-of-the-quittest/ | Source: Scoop News Group [09:42] TR Bot Mudge and survival of the quittest - CyberScoop [09:42] TR News (NEW): Debian GNU/Linux 12 Bookworm Installer Adds Windows 11 Detection, New ARM Devices http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Debian_GNU_Linux_12_Bookworm_Installer_Adds_Windows_11_Detectio.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Debian_GNU_Linux_12_Bookworm_Installer_Adds_Windows_11_Detectio.gmi [09:42] TR Bot Tux Machines Debian GNU/Linux 12 Bookworm Installer Adds Windows 11 Detection, New ARM Devices [09:45] TR News "Then, each time a connection is attempted, the service will pose a sort of riddle to the smartphone, a "challenge"..." https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2022/09/21/no-more-passwords-passkeys-explained-in-three-questions_5997728_19.html | Source: Le Monde [09:45] TR Bot No more passwords? Passkeys explained in three questions [09:45] TR News "Kevin Beaumont, a cyber-pundit who also goes by his Twitter handle @GossiTheDog, said the hack had probably been augmented by a remote-code execution script" https://cybernews.com/news/trolling-forum-kiwi-farms-admits-being-hacked/ | [09:45] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://cybernews.com/news/trolling-forum-kiwi-farms-admits-being-hacked/ ) [09:45] TR News 3FA https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/credit-card-fraud-that-bypasses-2fa.html | Source: Bruce Schneier [09:45] TR Bot Card Fraud That Bypasses 2FA - Schneier on Security [09:46] TR News "In a ruling delivered today, the EU Court of Justice dismissed German legislation on general and indiscriminate retention of call data" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/data-retention-ruling-lets-free-europe-from-mass-surveillance-and-general-suspicion/ | Source: Patrick Breyer [09:46] TR Bot Data retention ruling: Lets free Europe from mass surveillance and general suspicion! Patrick Breyer [09:46] TR News "The data is maintained for 15 years, the Post said. Officials declined to say how long the practice has gone on." https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/09/21/customs-border-patrol-collecting-data/69507093007/ | Source: Gannett [09:46] TR News "The data is maintained for 15 years, the Post said. Officials declined to say how long the practice has gone on." https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/09/21/customs-border-patrol-collecting-data/69507093007/ | Source: Gannett [09:47] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [09:47] TR News "The Washington Post is reporting that the US Customs and Border Protection agency is seizing and copying cell phone" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/large-scale-collection-of-cell-phone-data-at-us-borders.html | Source: Bruce Schneier [09:47] TR Bot Collection of Cell Phone Data at US Borders - Schneier on Security [09:48] TR News "Details of the database were revealed Thursday in a letter to CBP Commissioner Chris Magnus from Sen. Ron Wyden" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/15/government-surveillance-database-dhs/ | Source: The Washington Post [09:48] TR Bot DHS built huge database from cellphones, computers seized at border - The Washington Post [09:48] TR News "Since Amazon announced its Sidewalk Network in 2019, Ive been eagerly awaiting the Low-Power Wide-Area Network" https://staceyoniot.com/everything-i-could-find-out-about-amazons-sidewalk-network/ | Source: Stacey on IoT [09:48] TR Bot Everything I could find out about Amazon's Sidewalk Network - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [09:52] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:53] TR News "details about the specific content that Facebook and Twitter chose to remove from their platforms are relatively scarce" https://futurism.com/the-byte/us-military-social-psyop-bots | Source: Futurism [09:53] TR Bot US Military Annoyed When Facebook and Twitter Removed Its PSYOP Bots ● Sep 22 [10:01] *darwin has quit (connection closed) [10:02] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:04] TR News "Regulation of cryptocurrencies in the US is coming, albeit too slowly." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/09/white-house-statement-on-cryptcurrency.html | Source: David Rosenthal [10:04] TR Bot DSHR's Blog: White House Statement On Cryptocurrency Regulation [10:04] TR News "With the change enacted late Wednesday, ethereum the world's second most valuable cryptocurrency after bitcoin has effectively eliminated the energy-intensive task of "mining" new coins on its blockchain." https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ethereum-merge-1.6584585 | Source: CBC [10:04] TR Bot Ethereum network completes merge that could cut its electricity use by 99% | CBC News [10:06] TR News TikTok AstroTurf https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3654462-tiktok-updating-policies-for-political-accounts-after-report-of-rampant-misinformation/ | Source: The Hill [10:06] TR Bot TikTok updating policies for political accounts after report of rampant misinformation | The Hill [10:06] TR News "It's no secret that Meta-formerly-Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's metaverse pivot isn't exactly paying off yet" https://futurism.com/the-byte/mark-zuckerberg-big-trouble | Source: Futurism [10:06] TR Bot Mark Zuckerberg Is in Big, Big Trouble [10:07] TR News "Instead, the documents guidance contains a mixture of impractical, confusing, confused, and even dangerous recommendations" https://swagitda.com/blog/posts/securing-the-supply-chain-of-nothing/ | [10:07] TR Bot Securing the Supply Chain of Nothing | Kelly Shortridge [10:07] TR News "open source project: a software project where the source code is freely released under an open source license" https://mikemcquaid.com/entitlement-in-open-source/ | [10:07] TR Bot Entitlement in Open Source | Mike McQuaid [10:08] TR News Open Source Business Alliance (OSBA) https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/germany-launches-opencodede | Source: Joinup [10:08] TR Bot Germany launches opencode.de | Joinup [10:09] TR News Misinformation https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/20/technology/youtube-recommendations.html | Source: New York Times [10:09] TR Bot YouTubes Dislike Button Rarely Shifts Recommendations, Researchers Say - The New York Times [10:09] TR News "TikTok said Wednesday that it will require the accounts of politicians and political parties to be verified" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/tiktok-sets-new-verification-rules-politicians-political-parties-rcna48771 | Source: NBC [10:09] TR Bot TikTok sets new verification rules for politicians and political parties [10:09] TR News "In a review conducted by NBC News, users were found posting videos with emojis and slight wording variations in hashtags to evade QAnon hashtag bans" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/qanon-tiktok-trump-salute-theme-song-embraces-conspiracy-theory-rcna48641 | Source: NBC [10:09] TR Bot QAnon videos are getting millions of views on TikTok as Trump embraces conspiracy theory [10:11] TR News "Network data from NetBlocks confirm a near-total disruption disruption to internet service in parts of Kurdistan" https://netblocks.org/reports/internet-disrupted-in-iran-amid-protests-over-death-of-mahsa-amini-X8qVEwAD | Source: Netblocks [10:11] TR Bot Internet disrupted in Iran amid protests over death of Mahsa Amini - NetBlocks [10:12] TR News "The rhythm of openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshots being released this week continues at a steady pace." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/09/21/vb-grep-gawk-up-in-tw/ | [10:12] TR Bot Virtualbox, grep, gawk update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News [10:13] TR News How To Install VMware Workstation On Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 https://www.linuxtechi.com/install-vmware-workstation-on-ubuntu/ [10:13] TR Bot How To Install VMware Workstation On Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 [10:14] TR News "Khadas officially launched the Edge2 SBC featuring the powerful octa-core Rockchip RK3588S SoC along with a 6 TOPS performance NPU." https://linuxgizmos.com/new-khadas-edge2-sbc-launches-at-199/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:14] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/new-khadas-edge2-sbc-launches-at-199/ ) [10:17] TR News "mysqladmin is a command-line database administration utility that comes with MySQL/MariaDB server" https://www.tecmint.com/mysqladmin-commands-for-database-administration-in-linux/ | Source: TecMint [10:17] TR Bot 20 mysqladmin Commands for MYSQL/MariaDB Administration [10:19] TR News "When you start a Linux system, it starts with only one process, a program called init" https://linuxhandbook.com/check-if-systemd/ | Source: Linux Handbook [10:19] TR Bot Check if You Are Using Systemd or Not in Linux [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:21] TR News "I manage my code, shell scripts, and documentation versioning using Git." https://opensource.com/article/22/9/git-configuration-linux | Source: OpenSource.com [10:21] TR Bot Git configurations I make on Linux | Opensource.com [10:21] TR News "The e-RouteCAM_CU20 is a 2MP PoE (Power-over-Ethernet) GigE camera developed by e-con Systems." https://linuxgizmos.com/sony-starvis-based-gige-camera-supports-poe/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:21] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/sony-starvis-based-gige-camera-supports-poe/ ) [10:23] TR News "Claims of constitutional violations can only be brought by US citizens" https://jacobin.com/2022/09/julian-assange-cia-uc-global-morales-ecuadorian-embassy-spying/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine [10:23] TR Bot Secret Documents Have Exposed the CIAs Julian Assange Obsession [10:23] TR News "nothing more serious that threatens the First Amendment" https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2022/9/9929gkpuq3cxglozh5oh0zbobo6ivu | [10:23] TR Bot Laura Poitras Slams Hilary Clintons Presence at TIFF, Defends Julian Assange World of Reel [10:25] TR News "Specifically, the Human Rights Commissioner criticises the enisioned message screening on private smartphones" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/un-human-rights-commissioner-warns-against-chat-control/ | Source: Patrick Breyer [10:25] TR Bot UN Human Rights Commissioner warns against chat control Patrick Breyer [10:25] TR News UN 'Alarmed' At Iranian Detainee's Death (while ignoring what UK does to Assange???) https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-amini-death-protests-un-pressure/32042840.html | Source: RFERL [10:25] TR Bot UN 'Alarmed' At Iranian Detainee's Death, Pressure On Tehran Mounts Amid Protests [10:26] TR News "He was evicted a few days later for unrelated reasons, he said and is now living out of his car." https://www.cyberscoop.com/canadian-hacker-aubrey-cottle-raid/ | Source: Scoop News Group [10:26] TR Bot hacker, who bragged about exploits on TikTok, says he was raided by Canadian police - CyberScoop [10:27] TR News "A second notable development has been the rise of cloud-based public resolvers" https://labs.ripe.net/author/andrew_campling/is-it-possible-for-encryption-to-harm-cybersecurity/ | Source: RIPE [10:27] TR Bot Is It Possible for Encryption to Harm Cybersecurity? | RIPE Labs [10:27] TR News "With this rise, the total number of broadband internet subscribers nationwide has reached 88.2 million" https://bianet.org/english/life/267367-number-of-broadband-internet-users-in-turkiye-rose-by-over-41-percent-in-six-years | Source: BIA Net [10:27] TR Bot Number of broadband internet users in Trkiye rose by over 41 percent in six years - english [10:28] TR News "The Cyclon program work like this: You sign up for the Cyclon subscription service and get a pair of shoes in the mail." https://fighttorepair.substack.com/p/the-subscription-economy-comes-for | [10:28] TR Bot The Subscription Economy Comes For Your Shoes [10:30] TR News "Microsoft was planning to move WSL to the next stage" EMBRACE, EXTEND... https://debugpointnews.com/systemd-microsoft/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/ [10:30] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://debugpointnews.com/systemd-microsoft/ ) [10:30] TR Bot Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd | Techrights [10:31] TR News Attacks on GNU/Linux by criminals from Microsoft and their bribe facilitators at Canonical https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-and-canonical-bring-systemd-support-to-wsl/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/ [10:31] TR Bot Microsoft and Canonical bring systemd support to WSL - Neowin [10:32] TR News Microsoft: fires 10% of staff, hires people to attack GNU/Linux [10:33] TR News "This is the power of the picket line and the power of the people." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/21/after-64-day-strike-boston-starbucks-workers-declare-victory | Source: Common Dreams [10:33] TR Bot After 64-Day Strike, Boston Starbucks Workers Declare Victory [10:35] TR News old: When EFF did real work https://www.eff.org/pages/us-v-elcomsoft-sklyarov-faq#Jurisdiction [10:35] TR Bot US v. ElcomSoft & Sklyarov FAQ | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:35] TR News open circuits https://nostarch.com/open-circuits [10:35] TR Bot Open Circuits | No Starch Press [10:35] TR News Bright New Satellites Join a Crowded Sky Here's How You Can Help - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/20/1227235 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/20/1227235 [10:35] TR Bot Bright New Satellites Join a Crowded Sky Here's How You Can Help - SoylentNews [10:36] TR News Great Escape prisoner Vyvyan Howard, dies aged 102 - BillBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-62924112 Source: BillBC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-62924112 [10:36] TR Bot Great Escape prisoner Vyvyan Howard, dies aged 102 - BBC News [10:38] TR News old: "abuses"??? http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linus-Torvalds-abuses-NVIDIA-over-Optimus-support-1618766.html [10:38] TR Bot Linus Torvalds abuses NVIDIA over Optimus support - The H Open: News and Features [10:48] TR News Russia https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.muylinux.com/2022/09/21/rusia-windows-linux-de-verdad/ [10:48] TR Bot Rusia insiste en deshacerse de Windows y apostar por Linux [10:50] TR News Coffin-shaped office chairs cause work is killing you | Boing Boing https://boingboing.net/2022/09/21/coffin-shaped-office-chairs-cause-work-is-killing-you.html Source: BoingBoing | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boingboing.net/2022/09/21/coffin-shaped-office-chairs-cause-work-is-killing-you.html [10:50] TR Bot Coffin-shaped office chairs 'cause work is killing you | Boing Boing [10:53] TR News "he started attacking you because you wrote about drm" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210922.html#tSep%2021%2023:25:13 [10:53] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 [10:54] TR News "they didn't respond to my legal and technical arguments; instead they threw baseless innuendo, insinuating Rust critics are somehow transphobic. Welcome to the new Maoism." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210922.html#tSep%2021%2022:44:17 [10:54] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 [10:58] TR News Use a REAL OS, not this broken malware, and you won't need to "reset" it https://www.maketecheasier.com/reset-reinstall-windows-without-losing-files/ [10:58] TR Bot How to Reset/Reinstall Windows Without Losing Your Files - Make Tech Easier [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 148.90 ● Sep 22 [11:01] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.gmi [11:02] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [11:02] TR News Or just don't use "apps" AT ALL https://internetfreedom.in/5questions-to-ask-before-installing-an-app/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/03/privacy-of-mobile-phones/ [11:02] TR Bot #5Questions to ask before installing an app [11:02] TR Bot The Privacy Problem Associated With All Mobile Phones (Even Dumb Ones) is Worse Than Snowden Put It | Techrights [11:03] TR News "its ubuntu" is in Microsoft spam mode again, doing WINDOWS-ONLY webspam. WWW is hopeless. https://itsubuntu.com/best-144hz-laptops/ [11:03] TR Bot 144Hz Gaming Laptops In 2022 | Itsubuntu.com [11:04] TR News "Hello all. It's been a while. As you may have guessed there will not be a workshop this year. We spoke about organising one but the uncertainty around restrictions, along with other organisational constraints, resulted in our decision not to." http://blogs.perl.org/users/lpw/2022/09/london-perl-workshop-status-update-2023.html [11:04] TR Bot Perl Workshop: Status Update & 2023 | lpw [blogs.perl.org] [11:05] TR News "This Week in Rust is openly developed on GitHub." This is a lie and a paradox. If you are using GitHub, you do NOT develop openly!! https://this-week-in-rust.org/blog/2022/09/21/this-week-in-rust-461/ [11:05] TR Bot This Week in Rust 461 This Week in Rust [11:07] TR News Microsoft the back doors company https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/21/microsoft-releases-out-band-security-update-microsoft-endpoint see http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [11:07] TR Bot Microsoft Releases Out-of-Band Security Update for Microsoft Endpoint Configuration Manager | CISA [11:07] TR Bot Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [11:12] matteobin What do you think as Go as a language? [11:18] TR News (NEW): Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Xfce Quick overview http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Linux_Mint_21_Vanessa_Xfce_Quick_overview.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Linux_Mint_21_Vanessa_Xfce_Quick_overview.gmi [11:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Xfce Quick overview [11:19] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: seems rather extensive [11:19] schestowitz[TR] but maybe others have more experience [11:19] schestowitz[TR] also, it is controlled by a company I don't trust [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:20] TR News "Woo hoo! I just received the shipping label to return Satan, the useless Windows Laptop [1]!" gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/02/23.3 [11:20] TR News SSH Notes gemini://nuacht.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-09-21-ssh.gmi [11:21] *techrights-news has quit (Received malformed line) [11:22] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #techrights [11:22] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [11:22] schestowitz " [11:22] schestowitz That same day, a heated debate started on Twitter (as if that weren't the norm there). That's because the winner of this art contest used Midjourney, a popular AI image generator, to create his entry" gemini://birabittoh.smol.pub/ai-art-contest [11:23] schestowitz " [11:23] schestowitz He created this because he saw _art as a relic of the artist_. Any object or even person can become an art piece if an artist puts his sign on it. But how do you become an artist? By making something that makes people discuss, something new and innovative that nobody ever thought about doing before. That's what Mr. Allen did and that's why I think he deserves his price. [11:23] schestowitz Before photography was invented, artists generally strove to make their painting as realistic as possible. As soon as people were able to cheaply make perfect copies of reality, artists began experimenting with new techniques, things that a camera could never do. Allen showed everyone how technology just reached a new milestone, introducing a new need for artists to innovate and create something exclusive to their abilities. Something an AI can't [11:23] schestowitz reproduce. Yet. [11:23] schestowitz " [11:23] schestowitz[TR] starstreak: ^ [11:23] schestowitz[TR] of interest? [11:25] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@v5ec3gzucjux6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:26] TR News Notice how Pro Publica does not touch Famous Criminal Bill Gates but is distracting from Gates because Gates is BRIBING Pro Publica. Pro Publica = corruption. https://www.propublica.org/article/chicago-housing-abla-land-deal [11:26] TR Bot A Land Deal Benefiting a Billionaires Soccer Team Is Muscled Through Despite Objections ProPublica [11:27] TR News "During the summer Bungie sued a Destiny 2 cheater who allegedly evaded multiple bans and harassed Bungie's staff." https://torrentfreak.com/that-rude-kid-sued-by-bungie-for-cheating-in-destiny-2-is-fighting-back-220921/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:27] TR Bot Sued By Bungie Over Cheats & Threats Comes Out Fighting * TorrentFreak [11:27] TR News "Internet provider Earthlink has reached a tentative settlement with several filmmakers, to end an ongoing piracy liability lawsuit." https://torrentfreak.com/earthlink-reaches-tentative-settlement-with-filmmakers-to-end-piracy-liability-lawsuit-220921/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:27] TR Bot Reaches 'Tentative' Settlement with Filmmakers to End Piracy Liability Lawsuit * TorrentFreak [11:28] TR News "A Florida teenager who served as a lackey for a cybercriminal group that specializes in cryptocurrency thefts was beaten and kidnapped last week" https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/09/sim-swapper-abducted-beaten-held-for-200k-ransom/ | Source: Krebs On Security [11:28] TR Bot SIM Swapper Abducted, Beaten, Held for $200k Ransom Krebs on Security [11:29] TR News "wage growth will need to slow" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/21/ignoring-pain-workers-bloomberg-editorial-openly-endorses-fed-induced-recession | Source: Common Dreams [11:29] TR Bot Ignoring Pain for Workers, Bloomberg Editorial Openly Endorses Fed-Induced Recession [11:30] TR News http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OnLogic_IGN800_Industrial_Raspberry_Pi_Edge_Gateway_runs_Igniti.shtml [11:30] TR Bot Tux Machines OnLogic IGN800 Industrial Raspberry Pi Edge Gateway runs Ignition Edge software [11:30] TR News (NEW): OnLogic IGN800 Industrial Raspberry Pi Edge Gateway runs Ignition Edge software http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OnLogic_IGN800_Industrial_Raspberry_Pi_Edge_Gateway_runs_Igniti.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OnLogic_IGN800_Industrial_Raspberry_Pi_Edge_Gateway_runs_Igniti.gmi [11:31] TR News Climate https://www.desmog.com/2022/09/21/climate-lawyers-take-aim-at-green-heating-scheme-fed-by-incinerator/ | Source: DeSmog [11:32] TR Bot Lawyers Take Aim at 'Green' Heating Scheme Fed by Incinerator - DeSmog [11:32] MinceR 22 042547 < DaemonFC> MinceR: Apparently, the NetBSD change that Mozilla doesn't like patched out the Pulseaudio dependency. [11:32] MinceR i wonder how much dehomag is paying mozilla to force that crap on people [11:33] DaemonFC "Biden has spent the entire Summer floundering about the state of the economy. [11:33] DaemonFC Finally, this culminated in his Its all about how you feel, Jack! definition, and then he went off and, I dont know, ate another ice cream cone. [11:33] DaemonFC (He probably didnt even know what that cost. Rich people and politicians, the same thing really, have spent so many years disconnected from reality that they tend to guess orders of magnitude wrong about average wages and what common items cost.) [11:33] DaemonFC But even by Bidens Does it feel like a recession? test, he walked onto another rake, because now even CNN isnt trying to hide the fact that the Consumer Sentiment Index has hit its lowest level since Jimmy Carter was in the White House." [11:33] DaemonFC From a post I'm writing. [11:36] DaemonFC "The Consumer Sentiment Index basically is a "How do you feel?" survey. People are losing their jobs now that interest rates are rising, even though they're still very low, but it has less to do with that (sorry, Mr. Stallman) than it does with the fact that people are so broke from Bidenflation that they have to stop discretionary spending to redirect funds to buying eggs, butter, milk, bread, rent, and transportation to work. If Mr. Stallman [11:36] DaemonFC were an economist, he'd know that one does not simply hyperinflate their way to prosperity." [11:39] DaemonFC "Some people who are still in denial about hyperinflation and whether it's caused by Biden and Democrats printing up another trillion dollars every week and stating that it's an attempt to control the weather using battery cars, point to other badly-managed economies where hyperinflation rages. In Europe, they print, tax, and spend even worse than the US does, and this comes on top of years spent building up their energy markets on the [11:39] DaemonFC assumption that Vladimir Putin would continue being the Santa Claus of cheap natural gas." [11:42] DaemonFC "Germany announced yesterday that it would "invest" in the energy company that imports Russian gas by spending $8 billion to nationalize it. Some investment. Putin has turned off the gas, so one does wonder how one frames this as an investment. It's even worse than that time the US federal government "invested" in failing bank shares and General Motors." [11:42] MinceR > If Mr. Stallman were an economist, he'd know that one does not simply hyperinflate their way to prosperity. [11:42] MinceR i'm not so sure about that [11:42] MinceR economy isn't much of a science, and that's generous [11:45] schestowitz[TR] economics [11:45] schestowitz[TR] they made up a price for it [11:45] schestowitz[TR] *prize [11:45] schestowitz[TR] and they wrongly call it "Nobel" [11:45] schestowitz[TR] it's about how to manage man-made "resources" [11:45] schestowitz[TR] (money) [11:45] MinceR who cares [11:45] MinceR there's also a peace prize [11:45] MinceR and that's also totally fraudulent [11:46] schestowitz[TR] yeah :-) [11:46] schestowitz[TR] i think it was not always this bad [11:46] schestowitz[TR] hitler wa nominated [11:46] schestowitz[TR] but anyone can be NOMINATED [11:47] schestowitz[TR] you could even nominate some frog [11:47] schestowitz[TR] or a gay frog [11:50] MinceR :> [11:51] DaemonFC "The US economy today is not the envy of the world based upon people getting up every morning and going to a good union job to produce widgets to sell, so most of the public was teetering on the verge of bankruptcy even before illegal "COVID" lockdowns and dictators such as Illinois Governor Pritzker who pretty much just usurped the legislative power by claiming that the Illinois Emergency Management Act lets him rewrite any law he wants as [11:51] DaemonFC long as he remembers to hit the SNOOZ button and reset the "emergency" for another 30 days by executive order. " [11:51] DaemonFC "In reality, the IEMA says that he can only do some of what he says he can for 30 days, and then the legislature must renew the "emergency", which means that his actions have been illegal since May of 2020, but nobody will stop him." [11:52] DaemonFC "We live in a country where half the states are "governed" by such people (Democrats) who have such open contempt for all of the people that work for a living that they've ruined millions of lives simply to claw Donald Trump out of office, then found that they like the powers that they gave themselves and won't be terminating the "emergency"." [11:53] TR News (NEW): AAEON ARES-500AI embedded box PC features 22 TOPS Huawei Atlas 200 AI accelerator module http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/AAEON_ARES_500AI_embedded_box_PC_features_22_TOPS_Huawei_Atlas_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/AAEON_ARES_500AI_embedded_box_PC_features_22_TOPS_Huawei_Atlas_.gmi [11:53] TR Bot Tux Machines AAEON ARES-500AI embedded box PC features 22 TOPS Huawei Atlas 200 AI accelerator module [11:53] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.gmi [11:53] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [11:53] TR News (NEW): GNOME Builder 43.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/GNOME_Builder_43_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/GNOME_Builder_43_0.gmi [11:53] TR Bot Tux Machines GNOME Builder 43.0 [11:56] DaemonFC "From my perspective, even with two incomes, no kids, and the cheapest apartment we can find in the whole damned city, life is getting hard. I feel like there's no way to gain ground. Even buying a goddamned gas station breakfast sandwich and coffee this morning on the way back from taking my spouse to work cost me $9.70. Under Biden, this has gone up by roughly $4 vs just the last year. Countries operated like this end up like Nigeria, or even [11:56] DaemonFC the US Continental Dollar, where next thing you know, there are trillion dollar bills and you need to hurry up and spend them before a breakfast sandwich and a coffee are two trillion dollars, and then the currency fails because nobody will accept it anymore." [11:58] DaemonFC "Hyperinflation also contributes to political instability. In Germany, people became so sick of their ruined economy that they felt they had nothing to lose, personally, and elected Hitler." [11:59] MinceR have they tried undamned gas station breakfast sandwiches? ● Sep 22 [12:04] MinceR https://i.ibb.co/PTCpCcv/1663796308253729.jpg [12:07] XRevan86 MinceR: That feels like sarcasm. [12:07] TR News "DeSantis latest stunt sheds light on the treatment of migrants by the countrys top politicians" https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/21/mark-fiore-sending-migrants-around-the-country-cruelty-travel/ | Source: Scheerpost [12:07] TR Bot Fiore: Sending Migrants Around the Country: Cruelty Travel scheerpost.com [12:07] TR News Philadelphia https://truthout.org/articles/philadelphia-home-depot-workers-file-to-form-companys-first-ever-retail-union/ | Source: TruthOut [12:07] TR Bot Philadelphia Home Depot Workers File to Form Companys First Ever Retail Union [12:07] MinceR XRevan86: then he can go to ukraine and die sarcastically. [12:09] *XRevan86 is checking the feed. [12:11] XRevan86 MinceR: https://nitter.it/DasRgen/status/1569932398803959809 [12:11] TR Bot (@DasRgen): "While everyone is distracted in #Kharkov and #Kherson we blitzkrieg #Kyiv 100,000 North Koreans storm the West and our glorious army the East, then with a pincer movement we crush the capital (2/4)"|nitter.it [12:11] XRevan86 I can't tell if he's insane or has a very special trolly type of humour. [12:12] MinceR probably insane [12:13] psydruid and now he is in Georgia apparently [12:14] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/EntireYep/status/1567926286680576007#m [12:14] TR Bot (@EntireYep): "Decent parody account, don't give it away"|nitter.it [12:14] TR News "If you do what the people want, and not what the corporate world wants or billionaire campaign contributors want, you win elections." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/21/sanders-says-gop-plot-tank-student-debt-relief-will-hurt-them-politically | Source: Common Dreams [12:14] TR Bot Sanders Says GOP Plot to Tank Student Debt Relief Will 'Hurt Them Politically' [12:14] XRevan86 MinceR: I think the latter. [12:15] XRevan86 Besides, this account used to write in Portuguese. [12:16] MinceR :> [12:18] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/22/buick-anti-lock-brake-module-costs-790-to-replace-and-reprogram-also-richard-stallman-is-not-an-economist-and-the-post-covid-american-dystopia/ [12:18] TR Bot Buick Anti-Lock Brake Module costs $790 to replace and reprogram. Also, Richard Stallman is not an economist, and the Post-COVID American dystopia. | BaronHK's Rants [12:18] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], ^ [12:18] DaemonFC "The digital natives are getting restless. [12:18] DaemonFC Polling has shown that even young voters are finished with Biden and the Democrats. [12:18] DaemonFC Hes resorted to a vote buying program of bailing them out of their student loans, which left them with a head full of liberal college mush (you have to go to college and pay $60,000 to learn that white people are responsible, collectively, through corruption of blood, for everything bad thats ever happened or which will happen at some future date). [12:18] DaemonFC Liberal college mush that gets them nowhere instead of a job. [12:18] DaemonFC Will the forgiveness win any of them back into the fold or will any of them remember that they need to eat and that theres something even worse than their student loans going on in this country? " [12:19] psydruid taking the p*** out of everyone [12:19] psydruid a Portuguese in Georgia? [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:20] XRevan86 psydruid: It's just a meme account, none of it is real. [12:20] DaemonFC "If things get too good, were just another pandemic away from more lockdowns, more emergency powers. [12:20] DaemonFC Who knows? [12:20] DaemonFC Governor Pritzker already had his I am the Senate! moment. Perhaps next hell officially dissolve the Senate. They are kind of pesky. [12:20] DaemonFC His own party has over 75% of the seats and he still has to go around them. His nominee to the parole board was recently rejected because the Democrats were panicking about more murderers and child rapists being let loose on Chicago during an election year, and decided to leave the seat empty so the board couldnt get a quorum. [12:20] DaemonFC Maybe that law needs suspended as well, due to COVID." [12:20] DaemonFC XRevan86, I don't think the United States is so different from Russia, really. [12:20] DaemonFC The Democrats have learned that they can do anything as long as they say it's because of COVID-19. [12:21] TR News Ultrarich https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/21/number-of-ultrarich-hits-all-time-high-as-someone-dies-from-hunger-every-4-seconds/ | Source: Scheerpost [12:21] TR Bot of Ultrarich Hits All-Time High as Someone Dies From Hunger Every 4 Seconds scheerpost.com [12:21] DaemonFC And people are stupid enough to go along with it. [12:21] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR] is like RMS. Smart enough that he should see this for what it is. [12:21] DaemonFC But doesn't. [12:22] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: no, you are not the smart one [12:22] schestowitz[TR] you rushed for jabs [12:22] schestowitz[TR] across the state [12:22] schestowitz[TR] 3 times [12:22] schestowitz[TR] now we know those jabs did not slve the probelm [12:22] schestowitz[TR] I can give you us links from this morning [12:22] DaemonFC When they were making a mountain out of a mole hill. [12:22] schestowitz[TR] and me... I kept distance [12:22] schestowitz[TR] my mom got covid-19 three times already [12:22] schestowitz[TR] after 4 jabs [12:22] schestowitz[TR] so it's not really protecting her [12:23] schestowitz[TR] mrna [12:23] DaemonFC And we haven't had it once, despite not even wearing masks for the last 9 months or so. [12:23] schestowitz[TR] summer 2020 was better than this past summer [12:23] schestowitz[TR] less deaths [12:23] schestowitz[TR] far fewer in fact [12:23] schestowitz[TR] saame for hospital admissions [12:23] schestowitz[TR] see my personal blog [12:23] schestowitz[TR] I write about it about 3 times a week [12:23] DaemonFC The vaccine companies are spending a lot of money crapflooding the advertising channels about the "new booster". Ads at the movies, ads on the radio, ads everywhere. [12:23] schestowitz[TR] today they will relase more number in the evening [12:24] DaemonFC A hospital playing horror music while talking about COVID and saying it's all the fault of people who refuse 5 jabs that still don't prevent it in most people. [12:24] schestowitz[TR] they use guilt tactics a [12:24] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], This is how you control people. [12:25] schestowitz[TR] and peer shame [12:25] DaemonFC Frighten and shame. [12:25] schestowitz[TR] "i took this risky untested thing" [12:25] schestowitz[TR] "why don't you?" [12:25] DaemonFC RMS repeats their tactics. [12:25] schestowitz[TR] "if something gfoes wrong, I want you TOO to suffer the damage" [12:25] schestowitz[TR] meanwhile I stay home [12:25] DaemonFC Like some sort of stupid robot. [12:26] schestowitz[TR] on covid and many issuies, rms is programmed by Bill Gates' guardian [12:26] DaemonFC RMS is just weird, you know. [12:26] schestowitz[TR] would you trust gates as a guardian of children [12:26] schestowitz[TR] or child-like adults? [12:26] DaemonFC He basically has no chance of living to see "climate change" do anything serious. [12:26] DaemonFC Even if it's every bit as bad as he claims it is. [12:26] DaemonFC But it's like 3/4ths of his blog churn. [12:26] DaemonFC RMS parrots Bill Gates. [12:27] psydruid has RMS completely lost it in his old age? [12:27] DaemonFC It's like Gates is a parasitic wasp that stuck its proboscis into RMS's brain. [12:27] DaemonFC Forcing him to march to his own death so Gates can lay eggs in the corpse. [12:28] TR News Trojans https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/trojans-can-lurk-inside-avr-bootloaders/ | Source: Hackaday [12:28] TR Bot Can Lurk Inside AVR Bootloaders | Hackaday [12:29] DaemonFC mjg59_ is a sleazebag. He makes no big secret about it. It's nakedly obvious who and what he is. Who he pals around with. People like Mr. Pizza. "DOCTOR PIZZA, thank you! I did not spend 8 years at Kiddie Raping School to be called Mr.!" :) Microsoft people. "Doctor Pizza" (current location: federal prison) was also lobbying to get rid of me. [12:30] DaemonFC Making all the same points that mjg59_ does. [12:30] TR News "When the Elon Musk/Twitter drama landed in the Delaware Court Of Chancery, it thrust specialist publication The Chancery Daily into the spotlight" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/techdirt-podcast-episode-330-elon-musk-takes-his-chances-in-the-court-of-chancery/ | Source: Techdirt [12:30] TR Bot Podcast Episode 330: Elon Musk Takes His Chances In The Court Of Chancery | Techdirt [12:30] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: it seems increasingly lucif [12:30] DaemonFC And schestowitz[TR] told him, in logs, "Yes, I've been thinking about getting rid of DaemonFC for his disorderly conduct.". [12:30] DaemonFC Said it to Dr. Pizza! [12:30] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: exists to distract from the real scandals [12:30] schestowitz[TR] from real security [12:30] schestowitz[TR] from ethics [12:30] DaemonFC Back during the Linsux days of USENET. [12:30] schestowitz[TR] but attacking those who expose criminalks [12:30] schestowitz[TR] by promoting FAKE security [12:31] schestowitz[TR] (read: BACK DOORS) [12:31] DaemonFC And then they went back to USENET and laughed that they almost had me silenced. [12:31] schestowitz[TR] and media paid by the likes of him then boosts his lies [12:31] schestowitz[TR] while name-calling the sane people [12:31] schestowitz[TR] and flinging around words like "rape" [12:31] schestowitz[TR] in relation to people who never even "Stole a kiss" [12:31] schestowitz[TR] so he is noit a bullshit artist [12:31] schestowitz[TR] but more like a snake and spy [12:31] schestowitz[TR] keep your distance fromm him [12:32] schestowitz[TR] he's no better than the GCHQ moles who did-in their OWN words - a "fit up" job on Assange [12:32] schestowitz[TR] iow, framing him [12:32] DaemonFC People like mjg59_ who have made all the same arguments for getting rid of me that he does, are now in the federal pen for 12 years. [12:32] DaemonFC I mean, consider that. [12:32] schestowitz[TR] if there's a revolution the masses first go after the pspies [12:32] schestowitz[TR] the moles [12:32] schestowitz[TR] notice how he always picks pon vulnerable people [12:32] schestowitz[TR] like eunemployed guy in IL [12:32] schestowitz[TR] who is GAY [12:33] schestowitz[TR] and whose familyn rejects the gayness [12:33] schestowitz[TR] or picks on RMS [12:33] schestowitz[TR] for having a mental deficiency of sorts [12:33] schestowitz[TR] but never ever speaks of the sociopaths, whom he works for [12:33] schestowitz[TR] this is not a coincidence [12:33] schestowitz[TR] this is his MODUS OPERANDI [12:33] DaemonFC Yes, it's because mjg59_ is an evil inhuman bully. [12:33] schestowitz[TR] US commitsd war cimrs? [12:33] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: I WANT TO BE US citiziens [12:33] schestowitz[TR] proceeds to attacking perople who EXPOSE the war crimes [12:34] DaemonFC Like everyone else who is on that side of the fence, mjg59_ is a sociopath who tries to climb the ladder by tearing others down. [12:34] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:34] schestowitz[TR] yeah [12:34] schestowitz[TR] exactly [12:34] schestowitz[TR] that's his sole purpose [12:34] schestowitz[TR] anjd attack sofwtare [12:34] schestowitz[TR] by putting back doors in it [12:34] schestowitz[TR] then calling it "secuirty" [12:34] schestowitz[TR] to be cleberated in Arese Technically Pedophile [12:34] schestowitz[TR] where 'drpizza' would ciite him [12:34] schestowitz[TR] for Microsoft [12:34] DaemonFC How do I deal with mjg59_'s "contribution"? I don't. I turn it off. [12:35] schestowitz[TR] they both ework for Microsoft [12:35] schestowitz[TR] peter does kids [12:35] schestowitz[TR] mjg does... something [12:35] schestowitz[TR] the lateter is legal [12:35] schestowitz[TR] except if in some foss conferences and without consent [12:35] schestowitz[TR] who knows... [12:35] DaemonFC The only thing "Secure Boot" has ever done, visibly, for me, was update the dbx and then refuse to boot anything other than Ubuntu or Windows until I entered the firmware setup and turned it off. [12:35] DaemonFC That was on that Yoga laptop. I kept having all sorts of UEFI problems out of it thanks mostly due to Lenovo and Ubuntu. [12:35] TR News "The problems with Clearview AIs facial recognition system, particularly in the hands of police, are myriad and serious." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/no-the-solution-for-criminal-defendants-is-not-more-clearview-ai/ | Source: Techdirt [12:35] TR Bot The Solution For Criminal Defendants Is Not More Clearview AI | Techdirt [12:36] DaemonFC The only one I missed out on was the Ubuntu bug that set the firmware settings to read only. [12:36] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: that's why he tries to cancel you [12:36] schestowitz[TR] bringing up unrelated topic [12:36] schestowitz[TR] to use them as a wedge [12:36] schestowitz[TR] he is NOT trans [12:36] schestowitz[TR] he's a bully and opportunist [12:36] schestowitz[TR] he is a PROPRIETARY s/w "Developer" [12:36] schestowitz[TR] whose code I cannot even see [12:36] DaemonFC He's like Scott Evil though. [12:36] techuser deviloper [12:36] DaemonFC So evil that his hair starts falling out in clumps. [12:36] TR News broadband https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/there-have-been-decades-of-broadband-policy-and-subsidies-and-were-only-just-now-accurately-measuring-their-impact/ | Source: Techdirt [12:36] TR Bot Have Been Decades Of Broadband Policy And Subsidies And Were Only Just Now Accurately Measuring Their Impact | Techdirt [12:37] DaemonFC :) [12:37] schestowitz[TR] he's falling apart [12:37] schestowitz[TR] mentally [12:37] schestowitz[TR] but has money for therapy [12:37] schestowitz[TR] anyway [12:37] schestowitz[TR] I saw his likes [12:37] schestowitz[TR] before he was around [12:37] techuser it is evil that "trans" is being an excuse for anything [12:37] schestowitz[TR] when I did linux adovacy in my teensss [12:37] schestowitz[TR] they vanish fast [12:37] schestowitz[TR] like mcgovern [12:37] schestowitz[TR] bully de blanc [12:37] schestowitz[TR] he has already mostly vanished [12:37] schestowitz[TR] at age 40 or so [12:37] schestowitz[TR] with his hair falling off [12:37] schestowitz[TR] he's done for [12:38] DaemonFC There's a lot of horrible people that go "I'm trans, therefore cannot be criticized for anything!". [12:38] schestowitz[TR] they used him [12:38] schestowitz[TR] remember the dozens of good linux writers who sold out? [12:38] schestowitz[TR] where are they now|? [12:38] DaemonFC That way if you criticize some code they wrote, you're transphobic. [12:38] schestowitz[TR] gone. vanished for good. [12:38] DaemonFC That got Linus in the penalty box. [12:38] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: it's a wedge [12:38] schestowitz[TR] he is NOT trans [12:38] schestowitz[TR] he is just usinng that [12:38] techuser so some people may consider becoming trans just because of this [12:38] schestowitz[TR] spies do that too [12:38] schestowitz[TR] they even tried this on assange [12:38] schestowitz[TR] assange was very supportive of manning [12:38] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I don't know. Maybe he dances around the house to Goodbye Horses. [12:38] schestowitz[TR] but the spy-funded BS campaign p[ainted wikileaks as trnasphobic [12:39] schestowitz[TR] it's just some shallow edge [12:39] DaemonFC Do we know what's going on in there? Do we want to? [12:39] schestowitz[TR] boosters by lyuing brigeades in saudi sites [12:39] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_ is teans as I am... or as much [12:39] schestowitz[TR] we are equally trans [12:40] schestowitz[TR] except I don't use that to make grudges [12:40] schestowitz[TR] he does [12:40] schestowitz[TR] *trans [12:40] schestowitz[TR] like male "feminists" [12:40] schestowitz[TR] some are good [12:40] schestowitz[TR] but many are just stealing away the voice of actual women [12:40] schestowitz[TR] which is incidentally something many women do not like [12:40] schestowitz[TR] not about such men [12:40] schestowitz[TR] or trans women [12:40] techuser I want equality, not "reverse the discrimination for now" [12:40] schestowitz[TR] because it takes away from those who know best [12:40] schestowitz[TR] men don't have pms [12:41] techuser it will just lead to reversed discrimination for a few decades [12:41] techuser then reversed SJWs appear, and so on [12:41] TR News "Legal battles have been fought for most of a decade now over access to the full CIA Torture Report." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/dc-court-shuts-down-common-law-access-end-around-says-congress-doesnt-need-to-release-full-cia-torture-report/ | Source: Techdirt [12:41] TR Bot Court Shuts Down Common Law Access End-Around, Says Congress Doesnt Need To Release Full CIA Torture Report | Techdirt [12:41] techuser unless we self-destruct earlier [12:41] TR News "On Sunday, the European Commission decided not to close the rule of law procedure also known as the conditionality procedure against Hungary" https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/21/new-anti-corruption-measures-even-reach-the-prime-ministers-office | Source: Telex (Hungary) [12:41] TR Bot Telex: New anti-corruption measures reach as far as the Prime Minister's Office [12:41] schestowitz[TR] techuser: that seeds infighting [12:42] schestowitz[TR] among the lower class [12:42] schestowitz[TR] like the racial fights [12:42] schestowitz[TR] except over bs [12:42] schestowitz[TR] and made-up nonsense [12:42] schestowitz[TR] while the rich suck up allm the cpital [12:42] schestowitz[TR] and watch from above the sectarian battles [12:42] schestowitz[TR] over total fiction [12:42] schestowitz[TR] which their media and social contorl media keeps boosting [12:42] schestowitz[TR] it's not asa you put it [12:42] schestowitz[TR] it's not "women" [12:42] schestowitz[TR] or "LGBT" [12:43] schestowitz[TR] it's a whole raft of things [12:43] schestowitz[TR] inc. immigration and celebrities [12:43] schestowitz[TR] the polarisation is the problem [12:43] schestowitz[TR] and it's stirred up[m by the platforms that the rich control [12:43] schestowitz[TR] russia does the same inwards [12:45] DaemonFC https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mk7782dm884 [12:45] TR Bot buffalo bill dance SFW - Invidious [12:45] TR News Massive Kickback Scheme https://thedissenter.org/major-settlement-fca-whistleblower-biogen/ | Source: The Dissenter [12:45] DaemonFC Inside Matt GULAG's house. [12:45] TR Bot Biogen Whistleblower Lawsuit Ends In Huge Settlement [12:46] schestowitz[TR] many things that used to be a passive or peacrul coexistence [12:46] schestowitz[TR] suddeny become batttles [12:46] schestowitz[TR] if not just online [12:46] schestowitz[TR] then first online [12:46] schestowitz[TR] then offline [12:46] schestowitz[TR] or some isolated icndnts are hyped up, selectively, online [12:47] DaemonFC You couldn't do The Silence of the Lambs today. [12:47] schestowitz[TR] to accentuate grievances [12:47] schestowitz[TR] when I gre up trans people were out there [12:47] schestowitz[TR] nobody said anything [12:47] schestowitz[TR] we lived ok [12:47] DaemonFC The Cancel Mob wouldn't even let the script be read. [12:47] schestowitz[TR] we talked, they worked etc. [12:47] schestowitz[TR] now with social controlm media people go to war [12:47] schestowitz[TR] over something that's not new [12:47] DaemonFC If you tried to write the book, it wouldn't get published. [12:47] schestowitz[TR] same for racial [12:47] schestowitz[TR] like black on black (and white) violence [12:47] schestowitz[TR] peieter H from FFII said this is why he left twitter [12:48] schestowitz[TR] around 2016 [12:48] schestowitz[TR] he felt like twitter was starting to be dominateing by those divisive brigades [12:48] schestowitz[TR] it got a lot wors ein eyars that followd [12:48] DaemonFC Buffalo Bill (trans), except the movie points out he's not trans. He's like Keith (except that Keith didn't make a woman suit). [12:48] schestowitz[TR] aand is still further exaecentrated [12:48] schestowitz[TR] to the point of execerbating the conflict with russia [12:48] DaemonFC The psychiatrists all say Keith isn't trans, so he went to Canada to get the operations. [12:48] schestowitz[TR] all jus to occupy minds and for "engagement" [12:48] schestowitz[TR] polarisation is how they make more business and "value" (for political gain) [12:49] MinceR (audio) https://apina.biz/190929.mp4?mode=sfw [12:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190929.mp4 [12:49] schestowitz[TR] *exacerbating [12:49] schestowitz[TR] sorry, typing while standng [12:50] DaemonFC You have to be really careful around SJWs and Christians. It's the same fundamental problem. "Holier than thou!". They know how corrupt they are so they always are on high alert to find fault with others as a way of deflecting. [12:50] TR News "Solutions to systemic ills will only come from awkward conversations." https://shadowproof.com/2022/09/21/protest-song-of-the-week-the-money-by-rain-perry/ | Source: Shadowproof [12:50] TR Bot Protest Song Of The Week: 'The Money' By Rain Perry [12:50] XRevan86 MinceR: Why was he talking about shawarma? Was he selling? [12:50] DaemonFC So mjg59_ is like the people at MARISOL's church in that way. [12:50] MinceR \_()_/ [12:51] DaemonFC People may be overthrowing religion, but it's being replaced by things that are just as bad because people are still people. [12:51] MinceR if people are overthrowing religion, how are the religious fundamentalist parties not being thrown out of power? [12:52] DaemonFC The country is getting worse to live in as "irreligious" people are at their highest percentage on record. [12:52] schestowitz[TR] religion is a separation tactic [12:52] schestowitz[TR] not originally [12:52] schestowitz[TR] but it can stir up hate [12:52] schestowitz[TR] the problem is [12:52] schestowitz[TR] people used to speak to people [12:52] DaemonFC The USSR had state atheism like Communist countries do. They built a giant highway with GULAG labor that has 250,000 Russians buried under it in a mass grave that goes on for over 1,400 miles. [12:52] schestowitz[TR] or watch tv [12:52] schestowitz[TR] which is largely moderated [12:52] schestowitz[TR] hard to get a sdhos r get on the airrwaves [12:52] MinceR the way religion works guaranteed that it will stir up hate, from the start [12:53] schestowitz[TR] not we have platforms of cnesorship controlled by thr rich [12:53] schestowitz[TR] like the saudi "ropyal" family [12:53] MinceR "communist countries" have stalinism and cult of personality, not "state atheism" [12:53] schestowitz[TR] and they benefit from us not talking about stuff like price of oil [12:53] schestowitz[TR] which is artiificially elevated [12:53] MinceR have you seen the portraits and statues they put _everywhere_? [12:53] schestowitz[TR] they removed greta when covifc-d19 started [12:53] DaemonFC That ought to give you some insight. If state atheism led to a 1,400 mile long mass grave full of "political enemies" of Stalin, then why would any sort of atheist country be any better than that, necessarily? [12:53] schestowitz[TR] almost like they canceled it. move over, thunberg, now we have a new scare to sell and it is more profitable [12:54] MinceR DaemonFC: it's not "state atheism" [12:54] schestowitz[TR] the way religion works guaranteed that it will stir up hate, from the start [12:54] schestowitz[TR] not sun0-god [12:54] MinceR fundies would love to stick this on atheism, but it doesn't belong [12:54] DaemonFC The Communists have a much larger body count than Hitler. Stalin alone had twice as many. [12:54] schestowitz[TR] peopleused to pray for sun, rain [12:54] schestowitz[TR] that's how it started [12:54] MinceR schestowitz[TR]: sun-god-worshippers were wiped out centuries ag [12:54] MinceR o [12:54] DaemonFC Mao had 5 times the Holocaust. [12:54] schestowitz[TR] later came slavery and oppression as part of it [12:54] DaemonFC And that's just Russia and China. [12:54] MinceR sun-god implies polytheism [12:54] schestowitz[TR] yeah [12:54] MinceR and polytheism is defenseless against monotheism [12:55] TR News Warner Brother https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/warner-brothers-discovery-merger-continues-to-be-a-shitshow-for-the-ages/ | Source: Techdirt [12:55] XRevan86 Stalin turned up a lot of oppression, but not on religion, that he tuned down. [12:55] TR Bot Brothers Discovery Merger Continues To Be A Shitshow For The Ages | Techdirt [12:55] MinceR "my god is stronger than your god, and your god doesn't even exist, nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah!" beats "my god is pretty neat, but others exist too" [12:55] DaemonFC I didn't get the political undertones of Star Trek as a kid. Klingons as Russians, and all that. [12:55] MinceR XRevan86: so why were there portraits of stalin and lenin and marx everywhere? [12:56] MinceR why were there huge statues of stalin everywhere? [12:56] DaemonFC The movie where they sent Kirk and McCoy to the mining colony on the asteroid to mine dilithium with a pickaxe until they died. [12:56] XRevan86 MinceR: Totalitarian propaganda. [12:56] TR News "Poverty Is a Political Choice" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/21/data-reveals-poverty-political-choice | Source: Common Dreams [12:56] TR Bot Opinion | Data Reveals Poverty Is a Political Choice | Karen Dolan [12:56] DaemonFC Basically "sent to the GULAG". [12:56] MinceR XRevan86: what's the difference? [12:56] TR News "Consider the harmful, grasping tentacles by corporations around the bodies and minds of youngsters through relentless direct marketing that bypasses parental authority." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/21/who-will-liberate-our-tweens-these-corporate-tentacles | Source: Common Dreams [12:56] TR Bot Opinion | Who Will Liberate Our Tweens From These Corporate Tentacles? | Ralph Nader [12:57] TR News Old Barcode Scanner https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/old-barcode-scanner-motherboards-live-again/ | Source: Hackaday [12:57] TR Bot Barcode Scanner Motherboards Live Again | Hackaday [12:57] MinceR what's the difference between having to carry a bible with you and having to have a crucifix in your home and having to carry a little red book with you and having to have a portrait of stalin in your home? [12:57] XRevan86 MinceR: Does that negate Stalin lessening the crackdown on religion? [12:57] MinceR no [12:57] MinceR religions "crack down" on each other all the time [12:57] MinceR and blind faith makes brains nonfunctional all the time [12:57] DaemonFC Marsh supermarket (bankrupt now) was a large Indiana grocery chain that was the first to use barcodes for groceries. [12:58] DaemonFC People were freaked out by it and figured it would be the "mark of the beast". [12:58] DaemonFC Every new technology will be, you know. [12:58] TR News "If you are a political fanatic, you've surely heard the old saying that when fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/21/fascist-fingers-air-terrifying-american-nightmare-unfolds-trump-rally | Source: Common Dreams [12:58] TR Bot Opinion | Fascist Fingers in the Air: Terrifying American Nightmare Unfolds at Trump Rally | Will Bunch [12:58] MinceR lol [12:58] schestowitz[TR] beasty boys [12:59] schestowitz[TR] mandy and DaemonFC [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.61 [12:59] XRevan86 MinceR: Stalin didn't seek to destroy the church, instead he took control of it. ● Sep 22 [13:00] schestowitz[TR] that's like musk trying to buy twitter [13:00] schestowitz[TR] or bill gates buying a lot of the media [13:00] XRevan86 A cooperating church is a good asset. Putin certainty understands that. [13:00] schestowitz[TR] they co-opt it [13:00] MinceR :> [13:00] schestowitz[TR] or debian/spi trying to take over debian./coimmunity [13:00] schestowitz[TR] it's about control [13:00] schestowitz[TR] and they took over the exposer's domain [13:01] MinceR is there even a debian community anymore? [13:01] matteobin I use Debian! [13:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [13:01] matteobin Am I part of the Debian community? [13:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [13:01] MinceR \_()_/ [13:02] matteobin Don't you like Debian? [13:02] MinceR i left deadian behind when they tried to force systemd onto my systems in the guise of an "update" [13:02] matteobin Is it because of systemd? [13:02] schestowitz[TR] I use debian [13:02] MinceR yes [13:02] schestowitz[TR] we use it on 4 machines [13:02] DaemonFC debian.community [13:02] schestowitz[TR] but debian's leadership has gotten worse [13:02] schestowitz[TR] and they cover up [13:02] MinceR i already considered leaving debian when they started putting mono in the default install [13:02] schestowitz[TR] by abusing colunteers [13:02] MinceR but couldn't find a good alternative [13:03] schestowitz[TR] mono came through gnomke, iirc [13:03] schestowitz[TR] and debian <3 ICBM GNOME [13:03] schestowitz[TR] defaulyt DE afaik [13:03] MinceR well, there was crunchbang, then it ended because the authors decided that systemd was "lightweight" [13:03] matteobin You should be able to remove systemd from Debian. [13:03] schestowitz[TR] they don't have "official" favourite [13:03] MinceR but crunchbang was based on debian [13:03] schestowitz[TR] but gnome is always at the top [13:03] MinceR matteobin: yeah, i can, and it takes with itself all the packages that depend on it [13:03] schestowitz[TR] ubuntu is also based on debian [13:03] schestowitz[TR] almost everything is based on it, maybe 70% of actively developed distros [13:03] MinceR and if i don't have access to the packages of debian, what's the point of using debian? [13:04] schestowitz[TR] pepperminos has a deriv based on deuan now [13:04] schestowitz[TR] you can give that a try [13:04] MinceR i used devuan for a while [13:04] schestowitz[TR] I tried to install it on my main laptop [13:04] schestowitz[TR] it lacked some blob for realtek [13:04] MinceR but devuan can't afford to do what it set out to do [13:04] MinceR they couldn't even remove the dependency on libsystemd [13:04] matteobin Is Devuan that bad? [13:05] MinceR it doesn't have enough people to do the job [13:05] matteobin What are the things you need that depend on systemd? [13:05] MinceR all sorts of gui applications [13:06] MinceR openssh-server also depends on libsystemd [13:06] MinceR and i don't trust libsystemd [13:06] DaemonFC Debian is essentially "Take Fedora, misconfigure it, and call it stable.". [13:06] MinceR i think you can hack around that with libelogind now [13:06] MinceR but i don't really care [13:06] MinceR the stratum most things come from on my bedrock systems is void, not devuan [13:06] TR News Diode Laser https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/cutting-metals-with-a-diode-laser/ | Source: Hackaday [13:06] TR Bot Metals With A Diode Laser? | Hackaday [13:06] DaemonFC MinceR, It's bad enough that Fedora is where ICBM dumps things, but then Debian and Ubuntu grab them without the slightest understanding of how they work and manage to fuck things up even worse than they are upstream. [13:06] MinceR i was wary of it because it's rolling release, but it turned out to be pretty stable [13:07] MinceR 22 140607 < DaemonFC> Debian is essentially "Take Fedora, misconfigure it, and call it stable.". [13:07] matteobin OpenBSD does not use systemd. How can openssh-server depen on systemd? [13:07] TR News "Disney Heiress Tackles Inequality" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/21/the_american_dream_other_fairy_tales | Source: Democracy Now [13:07] TR Bot The American Dream & Other Fairy Tales: Disney Heiress Tackles Inequality, Family Legacy in New Film | Democracy Now! [13:07] MinceR no, it's "waste a LOT of work on reimplementing fedora" [13:07] MinceR matteobin: some logging bullshit optionally supports it and the systemd cultists at deadian use this to add a binary dependency [13:07] MinceR they build their binaries with it enabled [13:07] schestowitz[TR] Debian is essentially "Take Fedora, misconfigure it, and call it stable.". [13:07] MinceR deadian wields systemd dependency as a weapon [13:07] DaemonFC Fedora doesn't ship a broken and misconfigured setup whereby Pulseaudio and Pipewire are on the same system and set up incorrectly as well. [13:08] schestowitz[TR] that's a gross oversimpklifcation [13:08] schestowitz[TR] Debian has a lot more than what Fedora/ICBM pushes [13:08] MinceR just respinning and relabeling fedora as debian would be a lot less work [13:08] schestowitz[TR] KDE/plasma for instance [13:08] MinceR and it would achieve what debian people want [13:08] MinceR and what they believe in [13:08] matteobin I like Debian. I don't get your negativity. [13:08] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I was pleased to see that Pipewire recently added Opus as a Bluetooth codec. [13:08] MinceR systemd people believe in things like "Linux is not about choice" [13:08] DaemonFC That's not supported by "industry". [13:08] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: I still use debian on 2 machines [13:08] MinceR so why have more than one distro? [13:08] schestowitz[TR] rianne does too, on 2 machines [13:08] schestowitz[TR] it is still very reliable [13:09] DaemonFC But I was calling for Free Software to do this for a while now. [13:09] MinceR systemd people believe in things like "letting the user/admin configure something is bad" [13:09] schestowitz[TR] i don't like debian politics [13:09] DaemonFC The Bluetooth SIG doesn't mandate any audio codecs except SBC. [13:09] schestowitz[TR] and it will worsen the qualifty of currrent and future releases [13:09] schestowitz[TR] they drove away some good high-calbre devs [13:09] DaemonFC So theoretically, you can put any audio codec in there you want and advertise it's supported. [13:09] DaemonFC Including things that are not standardized by anyone. [13:10] DaemonFC You could include Musepack or WavePack as Bluetooth codecs if you really wanted to. [13:10] DaemonFC If there's a receiver and a server side that can both agree to use it, it will work. [13:10] TR News Hunger https://truthout.org/video/1-person-dies-of-hunger-every-4-seconds/ | Source: TruthOut [13:10] TR Bot 1 Person Dies of Hunger Every 4 Seconds [13:10] matteobin I get the issue, but I don't think that Debian is doomed. [13:11] MinceR that must suck for that 1 person [13:11] DaemonFC Musepack isn't badly designed. It's unfortunate that Vorbis caught on instead in the open source space. [13:11] MinceR debian is not doomed [13:11] MinceR debian is dead [13:12] DaemonFC Musepack hasn't been actively developed since SV8, but Fedora still has numerous decoders available, so if you have them, they'll work. [13:12] MinceR not only did debian give up on every single thing that made it what it is (being GNU/Linux, being universal, being stable, being free), but they capitulated to a corporation (ibm) that doesn't want to have them around. [13:12] schestowitz[TR] some projects moved fromc entos tro debian [13:12] techuser matteobin: on OpenBSD, did I mention HLIRCnet already? [13:12] schestowitz[TR] but china's kylin is still on ubuntu afaik [13:12] schestowitz[TR] deepin moves away from debian [13:12] techuser (its admin seems to do some things with OpenBSD) [13:12] schestowitz[TR] they don't trust debian I suppose [13:12] matteobin What does dead even mean? You are exaggerating! [13:12] schestowitz[TR] debian becomes more infested with what seems like gov. spies [13:12] schestowitz[TR] people like GULAG [13:12] DaemonFC not only did debian give up on every single thing that made it what it is (being GNU/Linux, being universal, being stable, being free), but they capitulated to a corporation (ibm) that doesn't want to have them around. [13:13] MinceR debian used to be GNU/Linux; now it's systemd/Linux [13:13] schestowitz[TR] who promote imperial back doors [13:13] schestowitz[TR] and attack the community [13:13] MinceR debian used to be universal; now it's designed to support poettering's multiseat laptop and nothing else [13:13] schestowitz[TR] LF is a part of thsi agenda [13:13] DaemonFC Debian used to have over a dozen CPU architectures and even a non-Linux kernel option (FreeBSD). [13:13] MinceR debian used to be stable; now it ships systemd by default, which still is a mess [13:13] DaemonFC Yes, systemd is the reason they killed off Debian/kFreeBSD. [13:13] MinceR debian used to be free; now it depends on systemd by default, which is OSPS (Open Source Proprietary Software) [13:13] schestowitz[TR] on one laptop of mine it boots fast [13:13] MinceR and what DaemonFC said [13:14] schestowitz[TR] on rian''e sit's super-slow [13:14] schestowitz[TR] some hardware cannot work with systemd [13:14] schestowitz[TR] far too slow [13:14] schestowitz[TR] also shutdown [13:14] DaemonFC At one point there was GNU/Darwin, GNU/kFreeBSD, and GNU/OpenSolaris. [13:15] MinceR also, systemd people believe that choice is bad, and debian replicates the effort of what ibm does in fedora/rhel/centos, making it a superfluous choice, which is bad. [13:15] TR News "When youre a machinist, your stock in trade is precision, with measurements in the thousandths of your preferred unit being common." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/metric-and-inch-threads-fight-it-out-for-ultra-precise-positioning/ | Source: Hackaday / Metric And Inch Threads Fight It Out For Ultra-Precise Positioning [13:15] TR Bot And Inch Threads Fight It Out For Ultra-Precise Positioning | Hackaday [13:15] MinceR (even ibm is being a hypocrite in this. why have 3 distros where only 1 would be desirable?) [13:15] DaemonFC I mean, you still could do those things, but you'd need to make sure you're not using systemd, which increases the workload if you want the Linux version to use systemd. [13:16] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: RHEL? [13:16] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: ^ [13:16] schestowitz[TR] why desirable? [13:16] schestowitz[TR] it's expensive [13:16] *psydruid mentions Chimera Linux in passing [13:16] DaemonFC MinceR, Red Hat used to have one distribution. [13:16] schestowitz[TR] it's just something you get with a contract [13:16] MinceR there was also a debian HURD distro, and HURD wanted to implement support for this single point of failure, but i guess they never got around to it [13:16] schestowitz[TR] but there are free derivs now [13:16] MinceR DaemonFC: yeah, and it used to be not shit, afaict [13:16] DaemonFC The binaries were the same whether you paid Red Hat or not. What made it "enterprise" was whether you bought paid support. [13:16] schestowitz[TR] the new ones anyway [13:16] schestowitz[TR] didn't test either of them, rocky and alma [13:16] MinceR schestowitz[TR]: it's desirable to systemd people, because choice is bad and "Linux is not about choice". [13:17] matteobin What is RHEL? [13:17] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: like you want to give them money [13:17] schestowitz[TR] so they can attack us some more [13:17] MinceR Red Hat Enterprise Linux [13:17] schestowitz[TR] so many people quit red hat [13:17] schestowitz[TR] it's the oinly place in icbm where peopple leave in droves [13:17] schestowitz[TR] in the other parts of icbm people are FIORED in droves [13:17] schestowitz[TR] icbm is "sjhitty old company" [13:17] DaemonFC Fedora has become more autonomous just simply because IBM doesn't care about it much anymore. [13:17] schestowitz[TR] they promote the sociopaths [13:18] schestowitz[TR] the liars [13:18] schestowitz[TR] the abusers [13:18] schestowitz[TR] in a saner company, [13:18] schestowitz[TR] like old red hat, [13:18] schestowitz[TR] they would sack ther management [13:18] DaemonFC They switched to a file system default (BtrFS) that RHEL probably will never support. [13:18] schestowitz[TR] for that massive blunder of destroying centos [13:18] schestowitz[TR] and attacking(alientating) the community [13:18] schestowitz[TR] after building a relationship with it for 25 years almost [13:18] MinceR 22 141817 < DaemonFC> They switched to a file system default (BtrFS) that RHEL probably will never support. [13:18] schestowitz[TR] even jim allowhurst left icbm [13:18] schestowitz[TR] WITHOUT A AWORD [13:18] schestowitz[TR] sold his house [13:18] schestowitz[TR] vanished [13:18] MinceR maybe they already know that ibm will buy oracle [13:18] schestowitz[TR] like mjg [13:19] schestowitz[TR] who is not justa reisdent troll in an IRC network [13:19] TR News "In our occasional series charting audio and Hi-Fi technology we have passed at a technical level the main components of a home audio set-up." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/know-audio-stereo/ | Source: Hackaday [13:19] TR Bot Audio: Stereo | Hackaday [13:19] psydruid Is IBM in a position to buy Oracle? [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:20] MinceR \_()_/ [13:20] DaemonFC They could do a merger. [13:20] MinceR the official values of these corporations are based on the beliefs of ignorant masses [13:20] DaemonFC It would be funny though. [13:20] MinceR it's unpredictable [13:20] DaemonFC Red Hat was pissed about "Oracle Enterprise Linux". [13:20] MinceR most of them are massive bubbles [13:20] TR News "Full Recession-Creating Mode" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/21/fed-full-recession-creating-mode-comes-under-fire-another-interest-rate-hike | Source: Common Dreams [13:20] TR Bot Fed in 'Full Recession-Creating Mode' Comes Under Fire for Another Interest Rate Hike [13:21] schestowitz[TR] Is IBM in a position to buy Oracle? [13:21] schestowitz[TR] they used to make openoffice.org [13:21] schestowitz[TR] via a fork of sorts [13:21] schestowitz[TR] for symphony [13:21] schestowitz[TR] but that was before oracle bought and scuttled it [13:21] schestowitz[TR] icbm has its own DBs [13:21] schestowitz[TR] doubt it wants oracle's [13:21] MinceR they could rebrand LibreOffice instead, if they wanted [13:21] schestowitz[TR] but both are malicious gopv. contracts that do a lot of distry work, einc. mass spying [13:21] MinceR not sure what's the point though [13:22] DaemonFC I used IBM Lotus Symphony for a while. [13:23] DaemonFC It wasn't a bad program. It was basically just a nicer GUI for OOo. [13:23] schestowitz[TR] it did look nicer [13:23] schestowitz[TR] they sold out all that business to india iirc [13:24] schestowitz[TR] for only about 2 billion [13:24] schestowitz[TR] ICBM has a future only as a bailout company [13:24] schestowitz[TR] International Bailout Mobster [13:24] schestowitz[TR] "defence" contracts [13:24] schestowitz[TR] as "stimulus" [13:24] schestowitz[TR] to keep afloat the tentcacle [13:24] MinceR they're entangled with the usian state, it will just keep them alive [13:24] MinceR in exchange for things like systemd [13:25] schestowitz[TR] yeah [13:25] schestowitz[TR] but [13:25] schestowitz[TR] if the USA falls too, then it will need to let some companies and bank fail [13:25] schestowitz[TR] no matter the consequences [13:25] schestowitz[TR] systemd is also partly controlled by Microsoft [13:25] schestowitz[TR] not just the github part [13:25] schestowitz[TR] but also LP [13:25] schestowitz[TR] turns out within daays of LP jumping over the redmond he works on WSL [13:26] schestowitz[TR] they are apromoting WIndows now [13:26] schestowitz[TR] Windows LP [13:27] TR News Telegram Has a Serious Doxing Problem https://www.wired.co.uk/article/telegrams-doxing-problem [13:27] TR Bot Telegram Has a Serious Doxing Problem | WIRED UK [13:27] matteobin This chat makes me sad. You might be right, but I would like to think there's hope for Debian and Free Software. [13:27] matteobin You sound so sure and so negative. [13:27] MinceR the state of the world is pretty damn sad [13:27] matteobin It's depressing. [13:28] MinceR i'm looking for a way out [13:28] matteobin Is it? [13:28] matteobin I mean it definetely is... [13:28] matteobin But it's not that worst thant it was three hundred years ago. [13:29] matteobin History has never been nice. [13:29] matteobin Maybe you are a bit too cynical. [13:29] MinceR i prefer a few million years ago, when there were no humans [13:29] matteobin I'd love to become a DD. [13:30] matteobin You would have been killed by a dinosaur. [13:30] MinceR the really big dinosaurs died out 66 million years ago [13:30] MinceR and the rest are still around [13:31] MinceR well, some of them [13:31] matteobin I share some of your POVs, so maybe new developers like me can help Debian and the Free Software movement? [13:31] MinceR you call them "birds" [13:31] MinceR i don't see the point in helping debian, or how they could be helped [13:31] TR News some time around the end of this year the combined age of Techrights and Tux Machines will be 35 years [13:31] MinceR debian is controlled by people who do ibm's bidding [13:31] MinceR like the technical committee [13:31] MinceR and debian's promise of stability is already worthless [13:31] matteobin Anyway we do live now. We should try to make the world a better place. [13:31] MinceR yes, we should [13:31] matteobin Just because of systemd? [13:32] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Things are just too fucking expensive. [13:32] MinceR not really "because of systemd" [13:32] matteobin Is there any sense in complaining? [13:32] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: context? [13:32] DaemonFC I found a recipe for dinner that only requires a head of cabbage, so I'll just go with that. That's the only thing I don't already have. [13:32] MinceR rh/ibm effectively took over debian so they could force systemd onto users of debian and debian derivatives [13:32] MinceR and it succeeded [13:32] DaemonFC Food is too damned expensive. [13:32] schestowitz[TR] bargain-hunt [13:32] schestowitz[TR] if feasible where you are [13:32] MinceR there's hardly any usable GNU/Linux distros around [13:32] schestowitz[TR] and safe [13:32] DaemonFC I was shocked by the cost of breakfast this morning. [13:32] schestowitz[TR] at times they discount [13:33] MinceR also, these >> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members [13:33] TR Bot Members of the Linux Foundation [13:33] schestowitz[TR] we probably save about 200 pounds a month with discounted foods [13:33] MinceR took over Linux [13:33] immibis DaemonFC: it's called capitalism, you might want to abolish it [13:33] DaemonFC I suppose Thornton's at least has decent breakfast sandwiches. That surprised me. The gas station has overtaken McDonalds for breakfast quality. [13:33] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: LFa [13:33] immibis you know all the bad stuff that happened in USSR communism, well it's also happening in USA capitalism [13:33] MinceR notice microsoft and ibm ("red hat") are there [13:33] schestowitz[TR] and maybe kernel [13:33] DaemonFC McDonalds used to manage their QC better. [13:33] schestowitz[TR] "linux" usually means more than that [13:33] schestowitz[TR] OIN limits its scope too [13:33] schestowitz[TR] the corporate front groups are old playbook [13:33] schestowitz[TR] to extinguish communities [13:34] schestowitz[TR] so we fight back [13:34] matteobin I would like to help the Free Software movement. I started using Debian because it was the oldest GNU/Linux distro, I liked the concept of a stable system. [13:34] MinceR also vmware, a known GPL violator [13:34] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: no, learn to cook [13:34] MinceR slackware is older, and it's actually GNU/Linux still [13:34] schestowitz[TR] i spoke with matteobin about this earlier [13:34] MinceR but i didn't have that much good experience with it either [13:34] schestowitz[TR] people need to learn how to cook [13:34] DaemonFC The United States does not have an Interstate Highway built with labor of political enemies of Eisenhower, with 250,000 corpses buried under it as they went. [13:34] schestowitz[TR] and then save a TON of money adn enjoy FRESHER foods [13:34] DaemonFC :) [13:34] MinceR i had to install -current because latest stable didn't support my hardware [13:35] MinceR and it broke when i tried to upgrade it [13:35] *Meh (~andrew@tjdieew2i55g2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:35] schestowitz[TR] hi meh [13:35] matteobin I want to become a Debian Developer because a lot of distro are based on Debian, so I can help package software for most of them. [13:35] *Meh is now known as Andrew [13:35] MinceR you can probably do it [13:35] schestowitz[TR] hi andrew [13:35] Andrew Eh, I'm just going to listen in for now [13:35] matteobin I think there's some value in this idea. [13:35] MinceR but be prepared for being bossed around by people on ibm's payroll and your work being compromised by them [13:35] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: just don't have any opinions [13:35] schestowitz[TR] or the thugs will flag you [13:36] MinceR that too [13:36] DaemonFC They'd never hand child molesters crude tools and tell them to work on the highways until they died. [13:36] schestowitz[TR] they want obedience mindlesa nd mouthless workers [13:36] DaemonFC First of all, the labor unions would be pissed. [13:36] matteobin I will always have opinions! [13:36] techuser hi Andrew [13:36] DaemonFC Secondly, the Democrats don't even want the child molesters in prison, and if they do go, they want to give them exercise equipment and satellite television. [13:36] MinceR that's going to be a liability in that shiny corporate SJW world [13:36] matteobin Anyway my question is [13:36] schestowitz[TR] someone somewhere might be offended [13:37] schestowitz[TR] and if you maintain a trulty secure package, they might try to oust you just for the fun of it [13:37] techuser are you the same Andrew I did talk to a few seconds ago? [13:37] schestowitz[TR] see how they shoehorned systems [13:37] schestowitz[TR] *systemd [13:37] schestowitz[TR] in spite of strong opposition from many devs and even former DPLs [13:37] schestowitz[TR] at the end systemd is controlled by Microsoft [13:37] schestowitz[TR] it took LP and github [13:37] schestowitz[TR] and now has a lot of control over us through that [13:37] matteobin What are you doing? You know more than I do. What is you plan? You must have a plan, right? Do you really think there is no more hope? [13:38] DaemonFC We should have GULAG labor camps. Not filled with political prisoners, but child molesters, rapists, murderers, etc. [13:38] MinceR i don't have much of a plan [13:38] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: there is always hope [13:38] schestowitz[TR] they play catch-up [13:38] DaemonFC Sentenced to hard labor until natural death. [13:38] MinceR i'm thinking of maybe forking Linux, stripping out the CoC, stripping out the hype-V crap [13:38] MinceR but it's a ton of work [13:38] MinceR and i'd have to build a distro on it, since nobody else would ship binaries of it [13:38] MinceR and i have ideas for that [13:38] DaemonFC How is compiling out the HyperV driver difficult? [13:38] MinceR but i don't have a lot of ideas for what features i'd add to the kernel [13:39] DaemonFC That's part of the make config process. [13:39] MinceR DaemonFC: i don't want to compile it out. i want their atrocious code out of the tree. [13:39] matteobin Is there something you do every day that you think can help the Free Software movement? [13:39] MinceR i don't want to maintain it, i don't want to keep it around. [13:39] MinceR matteobin: not currently [13:39] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: maybe another ditro [13:39] schestowitz[TR] one that respects its devs [13:39] schestowitz[TR] debian at the moment seems captured [13:39] schestowitz[TR] google, microsoft money [13:39] schestowitz[TR] and they even outsourced their CI to GAFAMN [13:39] matteobin Do you like just to complain? I don't want to sound harsh, but this chat is very sad. [13:40] schestowitz[TR] MinceR is like this [13:40] techuser schestowitz[TR]: tell Andrew about FSF evils [13:40] MinceR the systems we use are too big for a single person to build from scratch [13:40] schestowitz[TR] figosdev is too [13:40] schestowitz[TR] he goes by many names [13:40] MinceR and most of them are utter crap [13:40] MinceR all the web browsers that "modern" sites work on are utter crap [13:40] schestowitz[TR] fsf is besieged [13:40] schestowitz[TR] it's not evil [13:40] schestowitz[TR] it actually iousted many of the coup plotters [13:40] DaemonFC I have been considering switching to MATE. [13:40] MinceR none of the kernels are particularly good [13:40] schestowitz[TR] inc. mattL [13:40] DaemonFC I'm not sure if they have a CoC. [13:41] MinceR i have trouble picking libcs and userlands [13:41] DaemonFC mjg59_, OMG CoC!!!!! [13:41] DaemonFC Wouldn't want to "miss out". [13:41] MinceR all the desktop environments are crap [13:41] schestowitz[TR] must be female then [13:41] DaemonFC They should quit trying to CoC Block me. It never works. [13:41] MinceR all the hardware is either crap, or underpowered [13:41] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: when did you last try kde? [13:41] MinceR 4.3 [13:41] schestowitz[TR] it was worse back then [13:42] MinceR plasma kept forgetting its settings [13:42] schestowitz[TR] still buggy [13:42] MinceR no, it wasn't [13:42] DaemonFC At least MATE forked something that was still usable. [13:42] schestowitz[TR] kde3>4 [13:42] MinceR then they announced 5.x with systemd dependency [13:42] schestowitz[TR] but 5>4 [13:42] schestowitz[TR] and I tried 3 again 2 years ago [13:42] schestowitz[TR] it sucks [13:42] MinceR and then i knew i had no interest in the future of KDE [13:42] DaemonFC GNOME tried to spread FUD about MATE. [13:42] MinceR and also that KDE had no future [13:42] schestowitz[TR] it looked OK at the time [13:42] schestowitz[TR] but it's shit by today's stanhdards [13:42] DaemonFC They made it seem like MATE would never even have a release. [13:42] MinceR it is now controlled by a corporation that has no use for it [13:42] MinceR and they don't like having competition around [13:42] schestowitz[TR] if needed, they can fork qt again [13:42] MinceR so don't expect KDE to stick around for long [13:42] DaemonFC Yet here they are 11 years and like over a dozen releases later. [13:43] MinceR and then, yes, Qt became open core [13:43] MinceR and it was crap even before then [13:43] schestowitz[TR] kde is widely used [13:43] schestowitz[TR] it'll be around for decades more [13:43] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], You remember GNOME spreading anti-MATE FUD, right? [13:43] schestowitz[TR] they had a worse legal situatuin in the 90s [13:43] MinceR it already had half a window manager built into it for waylandows and it always sucked at clipboard/selection handling [13:43] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: gnome is gafam [13:43] MinceR (GTK+ also has half a window manager built into it for the same reason) [13:43] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation [13:43] TR Bot GNOME Foundation - Techrights [13:43] MinceR oh yeah, i forgot [13:43] schestowitz[TR] kde is european [13:44] MinceR X's maintainers don't understand X [13:44] schestowitz[TR] gnome is former latin/spanish, now GAFAM (Pentagon) [13:44] schestowitz[TR] kde is managed by germans and dutch [13:44] MinceR and they came up with an alleged replacement, waylandows, which is a total trash fire [13:44] schestowitz[TR] and kde did not attack FSF's founder [13:44] schestowitz[TR] not based on any lies anyway [13:44] schestowitz[TR] just wanted some more transparency [13:45] matteobin LXDE is very good too. MATE is nice, but my favourite is dwm. [13:45] techuser <@LibUser> anyway, at least they once told that FSF is sponsored by big entities and it restricts FSF in commenting on these entities' evils [13:45] techuser <@Andrew> what are their sources? [13:45] techuser do I remember things correctly? schestowitz[TR] do you know? [13:45] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: many options, the applications matter more [13:45] schestowitz[TR] i used openbox for eyars [13:45] schestowitz[TR] just bland, empty desktop [13:45] schestowitz[TR] no panels or icons at all [13:45] MinceR LXDE's panel doesn't understand multihead setups, afaict [13:45] DaemonFC The only GNOME-ish thing about MATE is that it uses GTK. [13:45] schestowitz[TR] that laptop just didn't have much ram [13:45] MinceR MATE forked gnome when gnome was already crap [13:45] DaemonFC That might cause their project to suffer at some point. [13:45] MinceR and gnome is still crap [13:46] DaemonFC I've heard developers complain that the toolkit itself makes it more difficult to write "desktop" applications properly. [13:46] schestowitz[TR] \ do I remember things correctly? schestowitz[TR] do you know? [13:46] schestowitz[TR] the fsf 'solved' this issue [13:46] matteobin I did not want to offend anyone before. I like your IRC server. Apologies if I was rude. [13:46] schestowitz[TR] it barely says anything about anything [13:46] MinceR also, GTK+, the GIMP toolkit, abandoned GIMP itself [13:46] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: some people here are more negative then me [13:47] schestowitz[TR] it's their right [13:47] schestowitz[TR] *then [13:47] schestowitz[TR] >than [13:47] XRevan86 DaemonFC: MATE is in bad shape right now, it needs people. [13:47] DaemonFC Their 1.26 release notes are fairly long. [13:47] DaemonFC They are obviously getting a lot done. [13:48] TR News (NEW): #HowTo Find User Account with Empty Password on Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/How_to_Find_User_Account_with_Empty_Password_on_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/How_to_Find_User_Account_with_Empty_Password_on_Linux.gmi [13:48] TR Bot Tux Machines How to Find User Account with Empty Password on Linux [13:48] DaemonFC Sometimes "more people" isn't better. It's getting the "right people". [13:48] matteobin Of course it's in their right! I wanted to say I didn't want to hurt your feelings. Friends like before. :) [13:48] XRevan86 DaemonFC: If ye have them, send them the MATE way. [13:50] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: you are not the first to say this [13:50] schestowitz[TR] a lady called mogxz said the same [13:50] schestowitz[TR] and offered art to us [13:50] schestowitz[TR] she was saddned by figosdev being rather defeatist [13:50] schestowitz[TR] I keep saying gnu/linux is now used more than ever before [13:50] schestowitz[TR] and still growing [13:50] schestowitz[TR] hence, [13:50] schestowitz[TR] it's under attack [13:51] schestowitz[TR] should we reatreat, then? [13:51] schestowitz[TR] no, we should fight on [13:51] MinceR no, systemd/Linux and Android/Linux are used a lot [13:51] MinceR GNU/Linux, not so much [13:51] schestowitz[TR] it's expectd that those whom you moccupy will get aggressive [13:51] matteobin That's my spirit! [13:51] schestowitz[TR] like microsoft trying to dswallow the sea [13:51] schestowitz[TR] github for instance [13:51] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: no [13:51] schestowitz[TR] android has no systemd [13:51] MinceR indeed [13:51] schestowitz[TR] and it's like 80% of the "Linux" market [13:51] schestowitz[TR] (sadly) [13:51] MinceR that's why i listed it separately [13:52] MinceR but Android is not GNU/Linux [13:52] schestowitz[TR] the systemd parts also not in embedded [13:52] schestowitz[TR] apline is used a lot in embedded [13:52] MinceR and systemd is not a free unix [13:52] schestowitz[TR] like cars with linux inside circuitry [13:52] MinceR i shudder to think how many cars run systemd [13:52] schestowitz[TR] systemd will fall off [13:52] schestowitz[TR] like a useless CoC [13:52] schestowitz[TR] a CoC kills off communities [13:52] matteobin Do you like VoIP, Mumble? [13:52] schestowitz[TR] that's partly its purpose [13:52] MinceR the other pointless overcomplications didn't fall off cars either [13:52] schestowitz[TR] it's greasing it up for corporate takeover [13:52] MinceR mumble is good [13:53] schestowitz[TR] or perishing status [13:53] schestowitz[TR] mumble is very good [13:53] schestowitz[TR] we use it [13:53] matteobin Do you have a Mumble server? I do. [13:53] schestowitz[TR] it's e2ee and self-hosted [13:53] MinceR i used it while playing xonotic [13:53] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: yes, but not public [13:53] schestowitz[TR] i shudder to think how many cars run systemd [13:53] schestowitz[TR] ICBM failed to take oevr this market [13:54] schestowitz[TR] Reddd Hat keeps trying [13:54] schestowitz[TR] using the LF front group [13:54] schestowitz[TR] making more phoyn 'foundations' [13:54] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], CDPH paid me for taking a survey about Monkeypox. [13:54] matteobin I use it with my friends too. Even if some of them prefer TeamSpeak 3. :( [13:54] DaemonFC It was overall trying to gauge how afraid I was of it and it I planned to get the vaccine. [13:54] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: funded by the vaccine patent holders? [13:54] DaemonFC I said not at all afraid and no plans to get the vaccine. [13:54] schestowitz[TR] so they an cook up a fake "study"? [13:54] schestowitz[TR] marketing pitch? [13:54] CrystalMath vaccine stuff in #techrights instead of #techpol? [13:55] DaemonFC DaemonFC: funded by the vaccine patent holders? [13:55] schestowitz[TR] patents issue [13:55] XRevan86 CrystalMath: DaemonFC doesn't take orders from anyone. [13:55] CrystalMath ah, yes [13:55] DaemonFC Not sure who funded it. They handed me $20 for telling them I think the Monkeypox scare is boloney and the vaccine is not appropriate for people who are not screwing around with anonymous sex partners. [13:55] schestowitz[TR] lobbyists [13:55] XRevan86 DaemonFC: We have a functioning #techpol channel now. [13:56] schestowitz[TR] funded by the patent stakeholders [13:56] schestowitz[TR] then officials issue a survey [13:56] schestowitz[TR] bvecause "Emergency" [13:56] schestowitz[TR] seems you got ontn their"gay men" registry [13:56] schestowitz[TR] be wary of those [13:56] schestowitz[TR] your next regime might be more bigoted than Trump's [13:57] schestowitz[TR] don't wait for m"sodomleaks" [13:57] DaemonFC Yeah, they kept paying me to take HIV tests for like 5 years. It turned out to be like $500 or so total. [13:57] DaemonFC They call it "LITE" surveys. [13:58] schestowitz[TR] seems bad [13:58] schestowitz[TR] it can cost you a LOT [13:58] DaemonFC Why do I care if they know I don't have HIV? I don't have HIV. Why would it be embarrassing to say "I don't have HIV?". [13:58] schestowitz[TR] all thatdats you gave them [13:58] schestowitz[TR] put int he wrong hands [13:58] schestowitz[TR] you talked about hos suicide helplines sell data [13:58] schestowitz[TR] and that's even more sentitive than "gay men" registry [13:59] schestowitz[TR] you should be like [13:59] schestowitz[TR] "WHY THE FUCK do you contact me???" [13:59] DaemonFC Yes, the suicide lines selling data and sending the cops out to murder people is a lot worse because that's all happening right now. [13:59] schestowitz[TR] if they value lives [13:59] schestowitz[TR] they will do a eife beaters' survey [13:59] DaemonFC Who is interested in a list of people who might want to kill themselves? Insurance companies, drug companies, employers? [13:59] schestowitz[TR] to catch the likes of hans reiser ● Sep 22 [14:00] schestowitz[TR] how many did money [sic] pox kill? [14:00] schestowitz[TR] 1? [14:00] DaemonFC Nobody in the United States. [14:00] DaemonFC They admit that. [14:00] schestowitz[TR] how many women are murdered by their male husband? [14:00] DaemonFC They can't name one person in the US who has died of Monkeypox. [14:01] schestowitz[TR] so maybe they should make a testosterone registry and survey [14:01] schestowitz[TR] \but.. [14:01] schestowitz[TR] there's "no money" on that [14:01] DaemonFC If you're not in the sex swing at the San Francisco bath house, you're "missing out" on Monkeypox, as mjg59_ might put it. [14:02] DaemonFC The Open Sores Conference. [14:02] schestowitz[TR] it wasn't open and not sore [14:02] schestowitz[TR] until the perverts came [14:02] DaemonFC GULAG workers getting together to discuss plans to use poppers and to deprecate POP3. [14:03] TR News Debian Installer Bookworm Alpha 1 release https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2022/09/msg00004.html [14:03] TR Bot Debian Installer Bookworm Alpha 1 release [14:04] TR News iTWire - Optus hit by huge data breach, up to 9m customers claimed affected https://itwire.com/security/optus-hit-by-huge-data-breach,-up-to-9m-customers-claimed-affected.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/optus-hit-by-huge-data-breach,-up-to-9m-customers-claimed-affected.html [14:04] TR Bot - Optus hit by huge data breach, up to 9m customers claimed affected [14:05] TR News Potion Permit - Chill Life Sim Begging for some Polish. - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/potion-permit-chill-life-sim-begging-for-some-polish/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/potion-permit-chill-life-sim-begging-for-some-polish/ [14:05] TR Bot Potion Permit - Chill Life Sim Begging for some Polish. - Boiling Steam [14:07] TR News Michael Larabel knows how to make his site deprecated, fast https://www.phoronix.com/news/Microsoft-Mesa-Faster-VA-API see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/phoronix-and-microsoft-mesa/ clickbait that helps Microsoft [14:07] TR Bot Speeds Up Mesa VA-API Video Acceleration For FFmpeg - Phoronix [14:07] TR Bot Microsoft Thinks It Owns Mesa (and Computer Games) | Techrights [14:08] TR News The shameless Microsoft propagandist and Linux basher Sofia Wycilik-Wilson likes the way Canonical is attacking us https://betanews.com/2022/09/22/microsoft-and-canonical-bring-systemd-support-to-windows-subsystem-for-linux/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/ [14:08] TR Bot Microsoft and Canonical bring systemd support to Windows Subsystem for Linux [14:08] TR Bot Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd | Techrights [14:09] TR News WSL: loved by people who HATE Linux. Coincidence? NO. The purpose of WSL is to ATTACK GNU/Linux. It's very obvious! [14:11] matteobin schestowitz[TR]: what ThinkPad do you use, R60s? [14:12] schestowitz[TR] rianne uses an idepad iirc [14:12] schestowitz[TR] thinkpads are expensive [14:12] schestowitz[TR] even second-hand ones [14:13] matteobin Ok, thanks. [14:13] *matteobin has quit (Quit: leaving) [14:14] TR News Cars become far too expensive to repair as they get more "sophisticated"; they're becoming too much of a financial burden to justify or be overcome by the perceived benefits of car ownership https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/22/buick-anti-lock-brake-module-costs-790-to-replace-and-reprogram-also-richard-stallman-is-not-an-economist-and-the-post-covid-american-dystopia/ [14:14] TR Bot Buick Anti-Lock Brake Module costs $790 to replace and reprogram. Also, Richard Stallman is not an economist, and the Post-COVID American dystopia. | BaronHK's Rants [14:14] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: you got a luxury clunker [14:14] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:14] schestowitz[TR] now with "EXTRA" petrol price [14:14] psydruid matteobin, when you become a Debian Developer we will worship you and look towards you for guidance every day of the week [14:15] MinceR 22 145357 < schestowitz[TR]> ICBM failed to take oevr this market [14:15] MinceR what about the likes of samsung (with tizen and whatever)? [14:15] schestowitz[TR] android is big there too [14:15] schestowitz[TR] some car frameworks are build with android [14:15] matteobin psydruid, are you mocking me? [14:15] schestowitz[TR] I saw one new cars-centric package earlier this month [14:15] schestowitz[TR] iut';s new and based on android [14:16] schestowitz[TR] some move from "linux" to Android (also Linux) [14:16] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: he mocks debian [14:16] schestowitz[TR] fow how they treat some DDs [14:16] psydruid matteobin: no, I am encouraging you to go for it [14:16] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/debian-social-contract/ [14:16] TR Bot Scientific Excellence and the Debian Social Contract | Techrights [14:16] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/debian-slapping-volunteers/ [14:16] TR Bot Debian is Not Defending Volunteers by SLAPPing Other Volunteers, It Just Tarnishes the Communitys Reputation and Brand | Techrights [14:16] TR News (NEW): Games: Steam, Minigalaxy, RPG Zoria: Age of Shattering, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Games_Steam_Minigalaxy_RPG_Zoria_Age_of_Shattering_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Games_Steam_Minigalaxy_RPG_Zoria_Age_of_Shattering_and_More.gmi [14:16] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Steam, Minigalaxy, RPG Zoria: Age of Shattering, and More [14:17] MinceR 22 145519 < XRevan86> CrystalMath: DaemonFC doesn't take orders from anyone. [14:17] MinceR "Daleks do not take orders!" [14:17] schestowitz[TR] under the guise of "anti-hatrrassment" some -people inside debian allower serial harassers to enter [14:18] schestowitz[TR] and go after productive devs [14:19] TR News You cant stop me. MS Teams session hijacking and bypass | Pen Test Partners https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/you-cant-stop-me-ms-teams-session-hijacking-and-bypass/ Microsoft the back doors company http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [14:19] TR Bot You cant stop me. MS Teams session hijacking and bypass | Pen Test Partners [14:19] TR Bot Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [14:20] XRevan86 MinceR: It was a Doctor Who reference but from https://youtu.be/t0CiX4ok-so?t=15 [14:20] TR Bot NO TITLE [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:20] TR News DRM garbage. Fools will rent and rent... and run out of money, and STILL left with ZERO OWNERSHIP https://www.maketecheasier.com/spotify-audiobooks/ [14:20] TR Bot Look Out, Audible, Spotify Now Has Audiobooks - Make Tech Easier [14:20] MinceR XRevan86: :) [14:23] psydruid Spotify is nice to discover some lesser-known music, but I would never spend anything on a subscription [14:23] TR News FSF slection criteria: MUST NOT UPSET OUR CORPORATE PATRONS https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/free-software-awards-nominate-those-who-have-charted-a-course-to-freedom-by-november-30 see http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/ [14:23] TR Bot Free Software Awards: Nominate those who have charted a course to freedom by November 30 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [14:23] TR Bot My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights [14:24] schestowitz[TR] psydruid: downloads loads of music [14:24] schestowitz[TR] tghen find what you like in it [14:24] schestowitz[TR] you can keep it all [14:24] schestowitz[TR] no subscription [14:24] schestowitz[TR] WxSW .. [14:24] schestowitz[TR] it won't eat up youyr bbbbandwidth either [14:24] schestowitz[TR] except initial download [14:24] schestowitz[TR] and you can pass it on [14:25] schestowitz[TR] no digital shackles [14:25] schestowitz[TR] today's laptops don't have much storage space [14:25] psydruid schestowitz[TR]: that doesn't work if you don't even know the groups and individual artists, although there are things like last.fm that could help [14:25] schestowitz[TR] it's all "clown" [14:25] schestowitz[TR] psydruid: not true [14:25] schestowitz[TR] download 100 tracks [14:25] schestowitz[TR] then browse [14:25] schestowitz[TR] and flag what you fancy [14:25] schestowitz[TR] in amarok they used to have scoring [14:25] psydruid download them where? [14:25] schestowitz[TR] torrent for instance [14:25] schestowitz[TR] some is free to share [14:25] schestowitz[TR] they do promotions [14:26] schestowitz[TR] last time I sapid for music... wow, I cannmot even recall [14:26] schestowitz[TR] *paid [14:26] schestowitz[TR] 90s for sure [14:26] matteobin I do still buy CDs, used or new, and I do buy from Bandcamp. [14:26] schestowitz[TR] like dog eat dog for 2 pounds [14:26] psydruid maybe that's true if you only listen to western music, but I've discovered a lot of non-western music on Spotify [14:27] schestowitz[TR] then some sinatra classics... those were super cheap also [14:27] MinceR https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members [14:27] TR Bot Members of the Linux Foundation [14:27] MinceR i just noticed that the "Linux Foundation" is an associate member of the "Linux Foundation" [14:27] schestowitz[TR] heavy page [14:27] schestowitz[TR] they don't know the web [14:27] schestowitz[TR] and never partitioind the page [14:27] schestowitz[TR] it's insane [14:27] schestowitz[TR] way to game it counter [14:27] schestowitz[TR] for all those logos [14:27] schestowitz[TR] last I checkedc [14:27] schestowitz[TR] they have hundreds of logos [14:28] schestowitz[TR] LF is ja shell game anyway [14:28] schestowitz[TR] LE is part of LF [14:28] schestowitz[TR] Let's Encrypt [14:28] schestowitz[TR] same adfdress [14:28] schestowitz[TR] same office [14:28] schestowitz[TR] shell game [14:28] schestowitz[TR] pentagonistic piece of *** [14:28] schestowitz[TR] even the same accountant [14:30] MinceR it does trigger image loading with a script though, to make it even more of a pain to use or save [14:33] matteobin Wanna see a light website? [14:33] matteobin https://choice.tiepi.it/ [14:33] TR Bot Server Choice dal 2013 [14:34] TR News (NEW): Web Browsers: Apache and HTTP/HTML http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Web_Browsers_Apache_and_HTTP_HTML.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Web_Browsers_Apache_and_HTTP_HTML.gmi [14:34] TR Bot Tux Machines Web Browsers: Apache and HTTP/HTML [14:35] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: also fast [14:35] schestowitz[TR] static [14:35] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: the LF site is awful [14:35] schestowitz[TR] on many levels [14:35] schestowitz[TR] I saw many incarnations of it [14:35] schestowitz[TR] they are based in SF [14:35] schestowitz[TR] whiich means they hire men with mustard bottle [14:36] schestowitz[TR] pouring our lots of crap into your fooda [14:36] matteobin What is SF? [14:36] matteobin *LF [14:36] schestowitz[TR] (caricature in mind) [14:36] schestowitz[TR] san francisco [14:36] schestowitz[TR] where pantagon, saudi arabais and other pour out money [14:36] schestowitz[TR] to make oppressive 'soif' 'ware' [14:37] schestowitz[TR] sorry for many typos [14:37] schestowitz[TR] they make everything on the web just javascript "apps" [14:37] matteobin I know. It was a typo: I meant LF. [14:37] schestowitz[TR] and never any useful software [14:37] schestowitz[TR] in europe people make some real software [14:37] schestowitz[TR] no "telemetry" and weaponry [14:37] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:38] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@v5ec3gzucjux6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:39] schestowitz[TR] SF turns the web to cyber warfare [14:39] matteobin What is LF? [14:39] schestowitz[TR] LF turns FOSS into corporate "assets" [14:39] schestowitz[TR] LF is Liars Foundtation [14:39] schestowitz[TR] it's a corporation [14:39] schestowitz[TR] run bya fraud called James Zemlinnnnn [14:39] schestowitz[TR] married to a microsofter [14:40] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [14:40] TR Bot Linux Foundation - Techrights [14:40] DaemonFC MinceR"Daleks do not take orders!" [14:40] schestowitz[TR] "wait for your turn" [14:40] DaemonFC You are superior in only one way! Cyberman: And what is that? Dalek: You are better at DYING! [14:40] MinceR :> [14:41] matteobin Got it: LF stands for Linux Foundation! [14:41] psydruid Leprechaun Fanclub [14:41] TR News Clickfraud spamnil issuing more spam for LF now. CNCF. These people literally VIOLATE the terms and conditions in sites on the Web. Anything to promote their bad agenda. [14:41] psydruid Los Franciscos [14:42] TR News 'Linux' Foundation still violates Twitter "terms of service" by SELLING "tweets" http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/jono-bacon-works-for-microsoft/ [14:42] TR Bot Jono Bacon Works for Microsoft | Techrights [14:42] MinceR Linux-Destroying Foundation [14:43] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: lf is based in sf http://techrights.org/2022/09/01/linux-foundation-mission-creep/ [14:43] TR Bot The Linux Foundation Has Formally Changed Its Mission! (Based on IRS Files) | Techrights [14:43] schestowitz[TR] linux was oeregon absed before [14:43] schestowitz[TR] and before that helsinki [14:43] schestowitz[TR] then linus moved to california [14:43] schestowitz[TR] chasing $ [14:44] matteobin You guys on IRC use so many different acronyms! [14:44] schestowitz[TR] he now gets almost $2 million per year to nod to GAFAM [14:44] schestowitz[TR] and say yes to things he knows to be bad [14:44] MinceR we guys in IT use so many different acronyms [14:44] schestowitz[TR] in exchange they let him pretend he is in charge [14:44] matteobin Just like the James Bond forum at mi6-hq.com. [14:44] schestowitz[TR] and then used his node as badge of approval [14:44] schestowitz[TR] for the supposed "community" [14:44] schestowitz[TR] which he bashes [14:45] matteobin From Russia With Love becomes FRWL, No Time to Die => NTtD. [14:45] schestowitz[TR] MAGMA [14:45] matteobin What a mouthful! [14:45] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft Apple Gulag Meta Amazon [14:45] schestowitz[TR] psydruid coined it [14:45] schestowitz[TR] but last week someone from gnome used it [14:45] schestowitz[TR] in gemini and in http [14:46] schestowitz[TR] GAFAM I coined with Julian Assange [14:46] schestowitz[TR] a very long time ago [14:46] matteobin Do you think an IBM ThinkPad 380z can handle NetBSD? https://www.ebay.it/itm/144724972395 [14:46] TR Bot IBM ThinkPad 380z Type 2635 Intel Pentium 2 64mb di RAM Senza HDD Retr Vintage | eBay [14:46] schestowitz[TR] microsoft lobbyists now push a new term [14:46] schestowitz[TR] "big tech" [14:47] MinceR dunno [14:47] schestowitz[TR] netbsd for a laptop? [14:47] MinceR NetBSD couldn't handle my SteelSeries Rival 600 :( [14:48] TR News I dont know#HowTo solve prompt injection https://simonwillison.net/2022/Sep/16/prompt-injection-solutions/ Source: Simon Willison | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//simonwillison.net/2022/Sep/16/prompt-injection-solutions/ [14:48] TR Bot I dont know how to solve prompt injection [14:49] matteobin Isn't NetBSD good for a laptop? How about 9front? [14:49] matteobin I thought NetBSD was less resource intensive than GNU/Linux. [14:50] schestowitz[TR] for pi maybe [14:50] schestowitz[TR] sbc [14:50] matteobin Why not for a laptop? [14:51] matteobin Or a PowerPC Mac mini from 2005 for that matter? [14:56] psydruid OpenBSD [14:56] matteobin Is it better for laptops? [14:56] matteobin Isn't NetBSD easier to port? [14:57] psydruid It's better to think of systems as in combinations of hardware and operating systems [14:58] psydruid It may be easier to port, but if it doesn't work with your hardware and some other operating system(d) does, most people will choose the latter [14:58] MinceR OCP pioneered cyborg technology State of the art destructive capabilities Commanded by a unique combination of software and organic systems [14:58] psydruid NetBSD has only worked "better" on my ARM SBC [14:59] matteobin I'll try OpenBSD then. [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 13.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 161.81 [14:59] MinceR OpenBSD worked mostly fine on both laptops i used it on, but it was slow on both [14:59] matteobin I was really enthused by NetBSD portability. [14:59] matteobin Why do you think is that? ● Sep 22 [15:00] MinceR \_()_/ [15:00] MinceR i found something, then found out the fix to it was already in OpenBSD when i first tried it [15:00] matteobin Ah ah ah! Silly question on my part, forgive me! :D [15:00] MinceR there was also a suggestion that maybe intel GPU drivers are lacking [15:01] MinceR but i haven't looked into that [15:01] matteobin Have you ever tried OpenBSD on a PowerPC Mac mini? [15:01] MinceR no [15:01] MinceR i've tried a crApple PC before, and it was laughably bad [15:01] MinceR but it was running macOS [15:02] TR News Learn about the new BGP capabilities in Red Hat OpenStack 17 | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/09/22/learn-about-new-bgp-capabilities-red-hat-openstack-17 Source: XDA | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/09/22/learn-about-new-bgp-capabilities-red-hat-openstack-17 [15:02] TR Bot Learn about the new BGP capabilities in Red Hat OpenStack 17 | Red Hat Developer [15:02] psydruid OpenBSD runs fine on Apple PowerPC hardware [15:02] TR News Surveillance as a science. Thanks, ICBM. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/data-science-engineer-day-life [15:02] TR Bot Data science engineer: A day in the life | The Enterprisers Project [15:03] matteobin I have this Mac mini from 2005, which I used to use 15 years ago. I would like to keep using it, but with a free OS. Originally it ran Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. [15:03] DaemonFC MinceR: You're forgetting the killer feature that Intel GPUs have that will win the day. [15:04] TR News Fedora is blogging on Microsoft proprietary software; sad and ironic.. https://fedora-copr.github.io//posts/api3-migraition-helper Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//fedora-copr.github.io//posts/api3-migraition-helper [15:04] TR Bot Migrate to APIv3 queries [15:04] DaemonFC 1: They can pay Microsoft Larabel to write a nice article about them every 5 minutes. [15:04] psydruid there is barely any GNU/Linux distribution left that supports such hardware out of the box and officially [15:04] DaemonFC 2: Extreme price cuts until nobody cares how bad they are because they're cheap. [15:04] psydruid I never ran Mac OS X for more than a few hours [15:04] TR News Explore OpenShift APIs from the command line | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/openshift-api Source: ICBM/Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/openshift-api [15:04] TR Bot Explore OpenShift APIs from the command line | Enable Sysadmin [15:05] psydruid I saw enough coloured beach balls of death for a lifetime [15:06] psydruid The joke is that they could have kept PowerPC indefinitely with the PA Semi acquisition, but by then they had already moved to Intel [15:06] psydruid and started working on ARM in the background [15:07] TR News (NEW): PostgreSQL: Citus 11.1 and pg_stat_monitor 1.1.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/PostgreSQL_Citus_11_1_and_pg_stat_monitor_1_1_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/PostgreSQL_Citus_11_1_and_pg_stat_monitor_1_1_0.gmi [15:07] TR Bot Tux Machines PostgreSQL: Citus 11.1 and pg_stat_monitor 1.1.0 [15:09] TR News Flying somewhere just to see a band for a couple of hours? Seems like unneeded pollution. https://jmtd.net/log/nin_cornwall/ [15:09] TR Bot jmtd log Nine Inch Nails, Cornwall, June [15:11] TR News Taking My Workshop Offgrid Using EcoFlow Power Kits - The DIY Life https://www.the-diy-life.com/taking-my-workshop-offgrid-using-ecoflow-power-kits/ Source: The DIY Life | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.the-diy-life.com/taking-my-workshop-offgrid-using-ecoflow-power-kits/ [15:11] TR Bot Taking My Workshop Offgrid Using EcoFlow Power Kits - The DIY Life [15:11] MinceR not only have they moved to intHell, but in their usual fashion, they've already badmouthed PPC [15:11] schestowitz[TR] ICBM [15:11] MinceR according to the cupertino mafia, every technology is the worst crap ever until crApple starts using it, then it becomes the best thing ever. [15:11] schestowitz[TR] how about SPARC? [15:11] schestowitz[TR] Oracle killed it [15:11] schestowitz[TR] 'open'SPARC [15:11] MinceR it's owned by Obstacle [15:12] TR News (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi [15:12] TR Bot Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers [15:12] TR News (NEW): Ubuntu 22.10s New Wallpaper is an Absolute Knock-Out http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Ubuntu_22_10_s_New_Wallpaper_is_an_Absolute_Knock_Out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Ubuntu_22_10_s_New_Wallpaper_is_an_Absolute_Knock_Out.gmi [15:12] TR Bot Tux Machines Ubuntu 22.10s New Wallpaper is an Absolute Knock-Out [15:12] matteobin Apple invented the dark mode too! :D [15:12] DaemonFC Yes, it was quite revolutionary. The only thing anyone thought of in UX design previously was light gray text on a light gray background. [15:14] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: in the 1980s [15:16] psydruid POWER is a bit cumbersome to program for compared to ARM and RISC-V, but it was there decades ago with MIPS, SPARC, Alpha, PA-RISC etc. [15:16] psydruid ARM was 32-bit until 2011 [15:17] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:17] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:19] TR News "autonomous vehicles" = UNSAFE cars. STOP trying to compensate for a bad idea with better shilling, marketing, lobbying, buzzwords https://siliconangle.com/2022/09/20/nvidia-drive-thor-delivers-2000-teraflops-unifies-intelligent-functions/ [15:19] TR Bot 2,000 teraflops, Nvidia Drive Thor unifies intelligent auto functions - SiliconANGLE [15:19] TR News "Vehicles with the chipset will be able to run Linux, QNX and Android simultaneously." https://www.engadget.com/nvidia-autonomous-vehicle-chipset-drive-thor-164538911.html [15:19] TR Bot reveals its next-gen chipset for autonomous vehicles | Engadget [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:20] TR News Mobility in a car was all the rage BEFORE we were deeply interconnected digitally (and device mobility). [15:22] TR News (NEW): EuroLinux Desktop is an RHEL-based Distro With Enterprise Perks http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/EuroLinux_Desktop_is_an_RHEL_based_Distro_With_Enterprise_Perks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/EuroLinux_Desktop_is_an_RHEL_based_Distro_With_Enterprise_Perks.gmi [15:22] TR Bot Tux Machines EuroLinux Desktop is an RHEL-based Distro With Enterprise Perks [15:26] TR News (NEW): Devices: EcoFlow Power Kits, Framework, and Peripherals http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Devices_EcoFlow_Power_Kits_Framework_and_Peripherals.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Devices_EcoFlow_Power_Kits_Framework_and_Peripherals.gmi [15:26] TR Bot Tux Machines Devices: EcoFlow Power Kits, Framework, and Peripherals [15:27] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi [15:27] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [15:29] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:32] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [15:32] DaemonFC I ran Mac OS X on an AMD Athlon64 system. [15:32] DaemonFC I had to patch the shit out of it though. [15:33] DaemonFC There were no Athlon64 Macs, and certainly not with an Nvidia graphics card. [15:33] DaemonFC bbl [15:33] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [15:35] schestowitz[TR] hackintosh? [15:36] *matteobin has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) [15:39] TR News (NEW): Free Software: Europe, FUD, and FSF http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Free_Software_Europe_FUD_and_FSF.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Free_Software_Europe_FUD_and_FSF.gmi [15:39] TR Bot Tux Machines Free Software: Europe, FUD, and FSF [15:43] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [15:53] TR News (NEW): Security: Microsoft, More Breaches, and Fake Security From CISA (Back Doors' Proponents and Pushers) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Microsoft_More_Breaches_and_Fake_Security_From_CISA_Ba.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Microsoft_More_Breaches_and_Fake_Security_From_CISA_Ba.gmi [15:53] TR Bot Tux Machines Security: Microsoft, More Breaches, and Fake Security From CISA (Back Doors' Proponents and Pushers) [15:54] TR News http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fwupd_1_8_5_Adds_New_Plugin_to_Display_SMU_Firmware_Version_on_.shtml [15:54] TR Bot Tux Machines Fwupd 1.8.5 Adds New Plugin to Display SMU Firmware Version on AMD APU/CPUs [15:54] TR News (NEW): Fwupd 1.8.5 Adds New Plugin to Display SMU Firmware Version on AMD APU/CPUs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fwupd_1_8_5_Adds_New_Plugin_to_Display_SMU_Firmware_Version_on_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fwupd_1_8_5_Adds_New_Plugin_to_Display_SMU_Firmware_Version_on_.gmi ● Sep 22 [16:04] TR News Links 22/09/2022: GNOME Builder 43.0 and Hype Over Ubuntu Wallpaper | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/22/gnome-builder-43-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/22/gnome-builder-43-0/ [16:04] TR Bot Links 22/09/2022: GNOME Builder 43.0 and Hype Over Ubuntu Wallpaper | Techrights [16:04] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [16:04] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [16:05] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/MIVoZ9O.jpeg [16:05] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:05] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:09] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [16:09] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [16:12] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:22] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [16:22] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [16:22] TR News Autumn Coming, COVID-19 Already Making a Comeback in England https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/covid-comeback-in-england/ [16:22] TR Bot Blog Archive Autumn Coming, COVID-19 Already Making a Comeback in England [16:36] TR News It Has Now Been Over Two Months and No Excess Mortality Figures Published by Our Government https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/covid-19-numbers-4pm-nothing-else/ [16:36] TR Bot Blog Archive It Has Now Been Over Two Months and No Excess Mortality Figures Published by Our Government [16:39] TR News Our regime oursourced our death data to MICROSOFT. Digusting. Corruption. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-and-english-regions [16:39] TR Bot mortality in England and English regions - GOV.UK [16:51] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:53] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: matteobin thinks MinceR is very negative [16:53] schestowitz[TR] I explained some people look at the worst cases [16:53] schestowitz[TR] inc. you [16:53] TR News Figures From UKs Office for National Statistics (ONS) Confirm: This Past Summer COVID-19 Caused the Most Deaths https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/figures-from-office-for-national-statistics/ [16:53] TR Bot Blog Archive Figures From UKs Office for National Statistics (ONS) Confirm: This Past Summer COVID-19 Caused the Most Deaths [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 142.45 ● Sep 22 [17:00] highest_cubist_thrills WE are occasionally being asked why this Web site bears a negative tone in the sense that it mostly covers bad news. [17:00] highest_cubist_thrills http://techrights.org/2009/08/31/boycott-novell-as-negative/ [17:00] TR Bot Why So Negative? | Techrights [17:01] highest_cubist_thrills Microsoft is covered a lot because Microsoft is by far the biggest opponent to Free software, and certainly the most active one. [17:01] highest_cubist_thrills In a very recent interview, Richard Stallman explained that he tends to look at the lurking dangers rather than savour too much the victories. Resting on ones laurels is unwise if the saying only the paranoid survive holds true. [17:01] highest_cubist_thrills #therealrichardstallman [17:01] highest_cubist_thrills #2009 [17:01] highest_cubist_thrills e tends to look at the lurking dangers rather than savour too much the victories. Resting on ones laurels is unwise [17:01] highest_cubist_thrills the lurking dangers [17:01] highest_cubist_thrills he doesnt tend to look at the lurking dangers anymore [17:01] highest_cubist_thrills only the greatest hits [17:02] highest_cubist_thrills its like trying to go after a polymorphic computer virus with a hashsum [17:02] highest_cubist_thrills and it fails [17:02] highest_cubist_thrills if you want to solve problems [17:02] highest_cubist_thrills you have to admit problems [17:02] highest_cubist_thrills if youre an alcoholic, you cant address the issue with "walks on the beach are so nice, i like the smooth scrolling" [17:03] highest_cubist_thrills you have to admit that alcoholism is going to ruin your life if you do nothing. [17:03] matteobin highest_cubist_thrills: #therealrichardstallman? Nowadays is he not Richard Stallman anymore? [17:03] highest_cubist_thrills admitting the problem is the first step [17:03] TR News "we became aware of some useful tutorial videos created by Steven Davids" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/09/22/video-tutorials-for-libreoffice-writer-calc-and-impress/ [17:03] highest_cubist_thrills but we could just sit around and suck off bill gates all day [17:03] TR Bot Video tutorials for LibreOffice Writer, Calc and Impress - The Document Foundation Blog [17:03] highest_cubist_thrills ive been hearing open source people trying to blow sunshine up my arse for yaers [17:03] highest_cubist_thrills you know what? [17:03] highest_cubist_thrills theyre not so goddamned positive. [17:03] highest_cubist_thrills look at the bullshit they made up about stallman. [17:03] highest_cubist_thrills these people are sadists [17:04] TR News "LibreOffices presentation tool, Impress, includes a bunch of features for home and office use. But one thing thats missing is recording and playback for audio comments in presentations." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/09/22/crowdfund-audio-recording-and-playback-in-libreoffice-presentations/ [17:04] TR Bot Crowdfund audio recording and playback in LibreOffice presentations! - The Document Foundation Blog [17:04] highest_cubist_thrills in the words of bob ross, be sure to make all your suicides look like happy suicides [17:04] highest_cubist_thrills take a happy little gun and swallow a happy little bullet [17:04] highest_cubist_thrills GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE! [17:05] highest_cubist_thrills also nothing i said to that artist you had here for a while was untrue [17:06] highest_cubist_thrills https://techrights.org/2020/11/20/open-letter-mogzagain/ [17:06] TR Bot Open Letter to Mogzagain (No Worries) | Techrights [17:06] highest_cubist_thrills you know whats negative? mozilla. [17:06] highest_cubist_thrills not only did they spread a bunch of lies to cancel stallman [17:06] highest_cubist_thrills which were EXTREMELY negative [17:07] highest_cubist_thrills when i tried to click ont he above link, the browser says [17:07] highest_cubist_thrills Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead [17:07] highest_cubist_thrills OMG! [17:07] highest_cubist_thrills what do they mean [17:07] highest_cubist_thrills they mean its not a hostage of lienuks foundation [17:07] highest_cubist_thrills Im really questioning why these are posted. Very demoralising, and this one seems to say overall that none of us are joining forces or investing assets/time/effort/support, but users should fix linux themselves. [17:08] highest_cubist_thrills Lets see users should fix linux themselves is not exactly what I would say. [17:08] highest_cubist_thrills Linux is an operating system kernel. It takes skilled developers to maintain that. Skilled developers cover a very wide range of things, but I do not expect users (per se) to fix Linux. [17:08] highest_cubist_thrills so you know, people read what they are thinking, they dont always think what theyre reading [17:08] highest_cubist_thrills " [17:08] highest_cubist_thrills What I had hoped was that the people already making it free (linux-libre developers) could expand into fixing other things. " [17:09] highest_cubist_thrills not meaning to be unpleasant, but its taken me half an hour to calm down enough to hopefully contribute something that might lift things [17:09] highest_cubist_thrills i dunno [17:09] highest_cubist_thrills maybe shes trying too hard [17:09] highest_cubist_thrills polishing a turd takes a lot of elbow grease [17:09] highest_cubist_thrills it was never meant to shine. [17:09] techuser > lienuks foundation | not necessarily. You have a choice of either Linux Foundation or Cloudflare, as I see it rn [17:10] highest_cubist_thrills if rms/oliva joined forces, steering things with a strong hand, small numbers, and refusing big tech, there could be hope [17:10] highest_cubist_thrills yeah, and if a frog had wings he wouldnt bump his arse when he hopped [17:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:10] *asusbox2 (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #techrights [17:10] highest_cubist_thrills figosdev should consider that telling others to fix linux isnt going to work when you tell ppl the leaders wont unite and nobodys really doing anything [17:10] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:10] *rianne_ (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #techrights [17:11] highest_cubist_thrills yeah, developers only screw up because people put their pom-poms down [17:11] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, theyve got legions of yes-men and what have you [17:11] highest_cubist_thrills but a few critics will destroy it [17:11] highest_cubist_thrills now, the most hilarious thing about this entire thesis is... [17:11] highest_cubist_thrills back when free software was the new thing in town [17:11] schestowitz[TR] thre are people who fight back [17:11] schestowitz[TR] but they too become target [17:11] highest_cubist_thrills these people were the same ones who said you could never take it seriously [17:12] schestowitz[TR] and the media is not on their side [17:12] schestowitz[TR] too busy taking bill bribes [17:12] highest_cubist_thrills thre are people who fight back <- yeah, but you dont wanna name names [17:12] highest_cubist_thrills there really arent [17:12] highest_cubist_thrills no ones fighting back [17:12] schestowitz[TR] they get 'canceled' [17:12] schestowitz[TR] until they lose will [17:12] highest_cubist_thrills theres no fighting [17:12] schestowitz[TR] and become more passive or quiet [17:12] highest_cubist_thrills they get 'canceled' <- suck it up. stallman did. sort of. [17:12] schestowitz[TR] that's like putin sending his critics to literal gulags [17:13] TR News (NEW): ExTiX 22.9 KDE Plasma together with Anbox ('Android in a Box' with Google Play Store pre-installed) :: Build 220922 | http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/ExTiX_22_9_KDE_Plasma_together_with_Anbox_Android_in_a_Box_with.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/ExTiX_22_9_KDE_Plasma_together_with_Anbox_Android_in_a_Box_with.gmi [17:13] TR Bot Tux Machines ExTiX 22.9 KDE Plasma together with Anbox ('Android in a Box' with Google Play Store pre-installed) :: Build 220922 | [17:14] highest_cubist_thrills and become more passive or quiet <- including the chief sonderkommando [17:14] highest_cubist_thrills the sonderkommanden were the prisoners who had to sweep up the ashes of the dead during the holocaust [17:15] highest_cubist_thrills its an extreme metaphor to be sure [17:15] highest_cubist_thrills but if we try to find something less "edgy" we surely wont find a metaphor for the state of free software that is so fitting [17:15] highest_cubist_thrills which is why mike godwin is a nazi cuck [17:16] highest_cubist_thrills but idc [17:16] TR News KDE neon 20220922 https://neon.kde.org/ [17:16] TR Bot KDE neon [17:16] highest_cubist_thrills stallman is retained so he can sweep up the ashes of his own creation [17:16] highest_cubist_thrills exiled in place [17:16] highest_cubist_thrills how do we put a positive spin on julian assange dying in prison [17:16] TR News SmartOS 20220922 also released today https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos [17:16] TR Bot SmartOS | Joyent [17:17] highest_cubist_thrills under conditions that violate the udhr and various other treaties on human rights [17:17] highest_cubist_thrills the queen is dead [17:17] highest_cubist_thrills who cares [17:17] highest_cubist_thrills she can send assange a postcard [17:17] highest_cubist_thrills "dont worry jules, all is well" [17:17] TR News Mental health's racial gap https://rochesterbeacon.com/2022/09/22/mental-healths-racial-gap/ [17:17] TR Bot Mental healths racial gap - Rochester BeaconRochester Beacon [17:17] highest_cubist_thrills "see you soon" [17:18] highest_cubist_thrills theres a word for people who want to paint everything yellow [17:18] highest_cubist_thrills toxic positivity [17:18] schestowitz[TR] how do we put a positive spin on julian assange dying in prison [17:18] schestowitz[TR] you can defame him [17:18] highest_cubist_thrills its really just constant emotional gaslighting [17:18] schestowitz[TR] like mjg59_ does all the time [17:18] schestowitz[TR] "no great loss" [17:19] highest_cubist_thrills id really rather not [17:19] highest_cubist_thrills mjg is not a role model [17:19] schestowitz[TR] the guy who exposed criminals... is a criminal [17:19] highest_cubist_thrills he teaches-- possibly well [17:19] highest_cubist_thrills idk [17:19] schestowitz[TR] establishment [17:19] highest_cubist_thrills but hes not a role model [17:19] schestowitz[TR] they propmote BS [17:19] schestowitz[TR] corporations, fake security (back doors) etc. [17:19] schestowitz[TR] they need their phones and liars [17:19] highest_cubist_thrills they propmote BS <- well thats what it comes down to [17:19] schestowitz[TR] *phonies [17:20] highest_cubist_thrills i mean everyone is influencer now [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [17:20] highest_cubist_thrills its crowdsourced marketing [17:20] schestowitz[TR] influencer? no [17:20] schestowitz[TR] the platforms choose winners [17:20] schestowitz[TR] youtube [17:20] schestowitz[TR] twqitter [17:20] schestowitz[TR] fb [17:20] highest_cubist_thrills hey everybody, dont just kneel down and swallow this commercial message [17:20] schestowitz[TR] they also let you buy numbers [17:20] schestowitz[TR] to fake it [17:20] highest_cubist_thrills spit some of it into the mouth of everyone you meet [17:20] schestowitz[TR] so the platform owners set the tone and agenda [17:20] schestowitz[TR] based on the owners [17:20] highest_cubist_thrills show them your tits-- and tell them you love windows! [17:21] schestowitz[TR] "windows 7 was my idea" [17:21] highest_cubist_thrills #realitytv #productplacement #topinfluencer [17:21] techuser IRC is better than love [17:21] highest_cubist_thrills granted i have nothing wrong with people showing their tits [17:21] highest_cubist_thrills just that people should stop doing free marketing for bad corporations [17:21] highest_cubist_thrills this software should belong to the people [17:21] highest_cubist_thrills that means developers, yes [17:22] TR News Hospitals filling up with COVID-19 patients when mass gatherings for the Queen are held (COVID-19 likely contributed to her death) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/covid-comeback-in-england/ [17:22] TR Bot Blog Archive Autumn Coming, COVID-19 Already Making a Comeback in England [17:22] highest_cubist_thrills but also users [17:22] TR News "The Web is moving fast, just like software. 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How convenient." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/covid-19-numbers-4pm-nothing-else/ [17:30] TR Bot Blog Archive It Has Now Been Over Two Months and No Excess Mortality Figures Published by Our Government [17:30] TR News "Notice how much of these bars (vertical) got blued this summer compared to prior pandemic summers" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/figures-from-office-for-national-statistics/ [17:30] TR Bot Blog Archive Figures From UKs Office for National Statistics (ONS) Confirm: This Past Summer COVID-19 Caused the Most Deaths [17:31] *matteobin has quit (Quit: leaving) [17:31] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@eq3snar22puje.irc) has joined #techrights [17:31] highest_cubist_thrills random shit in every random direction is also decentralised but its fucking useless [17:31] highest_cubist_thrills look at how magenetism works-- its a law of physics, its an electromagnetic force [17:31] highest_cubist_thrills its what computers (including mechanical ones) run on [17:31] highest_cubist_thrills for magnetism to work [17:31] highest_cubist_thrills the spin of some part of the atoms (id have to look it up to get this part right) [17:32] highest_cubist_thrills they have to be aligned [17:32] highest_cubist_thrills not perfectly-- just sufficiently [17:32] highest_cubist_thrills now, if you take a magnet [17:32] highest_cubist_thrills and hit it with a big hammer [17:32] highest_cubist_thrills it can demagnetise it [17:32] highest_cubist_thrills because the force causes the aligned spins to lose their alignment [17:32] highest_cubist_thrills theres no coherence [17:32] highest_cubist_thrills this is what you get when you behead a movement [17:33] highest_cubist_thrills if there are enough strong advocages (there werent, only weak dipshits, and oliva, who ill give a little more credit to beause at least he tried) [17:33] highest_cubist_thrills (probably) [17:33] highest_cubist_thrills advocates [17:33] highest_cubist_thrills then you take off the head and another rises up [17:33] highest_cubist_thrills one of the cunt organisations that beheaded the fsf was actually riseup [17:33] highest_cubist_thrills <- former member right here [17:33] highest_cubist_thrills fuck rise up [17:33] highest_cubist_thrills they stooped low [17:34] highest_cubist_thrills you take off the head and another rises up [17:34] highest_cubist_thrills that didnt happen [17:34] highest_cubist_thrills they took of the head, and bill gates mini me popped out [17:34] highest_cubist_thrills great! [17:34] highest_cubist_thrills so any "coherence" left in the movement is based on ibm and microsoft [17:35] highest_cubist_thrills which is exactly what they inteded [17:35] highest_cubist_thrills way to punch up, riseup! [17:35] highest_cubist_thrills well fucking done, you fucking morons [17:35] highest_cubist_thrills thugs working for ibm, posing as progressives [17:35] highest_cubist_thrills eat shit and die [17:35] highest_cubist_thrills henry ford (nazi sympathiser) had thugs too [17:36] highest_cubist_thrills his business ran on thugs [17:36] highest_cubist_thrills the reason hollywood in california... [17:36] highest_cubist_thrills besides who doesnt want sunlight [17:36] AdmFubar oh now!!! don't hold back! tell us how you really feel! [17:36] highest_cubist_thrills is that movie makers were "pirating" edisons "intellectual property" [17:36] highest_cubist_thrills edison (fords buddy) had thugs too [17:36] highest_cubist_thrills thugs who would shake down any producers who didnt kiss the ring [17:36] highest_cubist_thrills it was just like a corporate mafia [17:37] highest_cubist_thrills and that was in the early days of moving making-- so early it wasnt called hollywood yet [17:37] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [17:37] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [17:37] highest_cubist_thrills because it was based in the eastern usa [17:37] highest_cubist_thrills they wanted to get away from edisons thugs [17:37] highest_cubist_thrills today ibm and microsoft have thugs everywhere [17:37] highest_cubist_thrills and the fsf doesnt fight [17:38] highest_cubist_thrills and oliva wants us to fucking marry them [17:38] highest_cubist_thrills i told him no, a forced community is like a forced marriage. [17:38] highest_cubist_thrills theres nothing positive about a forced marriage [17:38] highest_cubist_thrills you either get lucky, or its hell on earht [17:38] highest_cubist_thrills this is free software hell. [17:38] highest_cubist_thrills gnu is burning [17:38] highest_cubist_thrills assange is dying [17:38] highest_cubist_thrills stallman is exiled in place [17:38] techuser Andrew: ^ oh, maybe highest_cubist_thrills knows [17:39] highest_cubist_thrills have a fucking cookie and cuddle a puppy. i think jim zemlins has some [17:39] highest_cubist_thrills if his wife didnt eat them already [17:39] highest_cubist_thrills i mean the puppy. [17:39] MinceR :> [17:39] highest_cubist_thrills so yeah, sometimes i sound a little like mincer, maybe [17:40] highest_cubist_thrills thats exactly why i like him [17:40] highest_cubist_thrills hes got this half of it right [17:40] highest_cubist_thrills the other half... [17:40] highest_cubist_thrills hell, a lot of it is theoretical, isnt it [17:40] MinceR don't worry, i'd never say i want anyone to cuddle a dog as an attempt to be comforted [17:40] highest_cubist_thrills but i dont think its stupid [17:40] highest_cubist_thrills don't worry, i'd never say i want anyone to cuddle a dog <- i know, you hate dogs [17:41] highest_cubist_thrills its not stupid to try to fix things [17:41] highest_cubist_thrills its only stupid to say things are going well, while rome burns [17:41] highest_cubist_thrills particularly if you live in rome. [17:42] highest_cubist_thrills i like the leftists that are neither reformers, nor the smash-everything-and-ask-questions-later type [17:42] highest_cubist_thrills ask questions first. [17:42] highest_cubist_thrills then smash only what you have to [17:42] highest_cubist_thrills most things should be taken over and rebuilt [17:42] highest_cubist_thrills some things should be smashed [17:42] highest_cubist_thrills if you smash everything though [17:42] highest_cubist_thrills jesus, even kropotkin was a step ahead of you. you want to go back to the fucking 1800s. [17:43] highest_cubist_thrills "SMASH THE BAKERY!" "wait! idiot" [17:43] highest_cubist_thrills too late [17:43] highest_cubist_thrills its a counterrevolution, theres nothing progressive about it [17:43] highest_cubist_thrills and they have nothing to build in its place [17:44] highest_cubist_thrills they must have thought things would just rebuild themselves [17:44] highest_cubist_thrills nope, cause theyre fucking morons [17:44] highest_cubist_thrills its like one of those cities in romania or belarus [17:44] highest_cubist_thrills that were torn down by war and then [17:45] highest_cubist_thrills instead of rebuilding [17:45] highest_cubist_thrills theyre run by politicians that literally funnel all remaining money to themselves [17:45] highest_cubist_thrills i mean mincer can tell you all about them, they obviously run hungary (im not being sarcastic, i dont differ with him on his opinion of hungarian leaders) [17:46] highest_cubist_thrills how is it going to be rebuilt when the only people left in charge are corrupt? [17:46] highest_cubist_thrills oh, probably should have thought about that [17:46] highest_cubist_thrills this is why i compare it to iraq [17:46] highest_cubist_thrills now that saddam and stallman had so much in common (i mean there was the beard i guess) [17:46] highest_cubist_thrills but they were like [17:46] highest_cubist_thrills FUCK THIS GUY, HE WONT DO WHAT WE WANT! [17:46] highest_cubist_thrills AND WE WANT THE RESOURCES! [17:46] highest_cubist_thrills and they toppled his statue and then hung hum in the square [17:47] highest_cubist_thrills and then iraq got so much better [17:47] highest_cubist_thrills nope [17:47] highest_cubist_thrills it just got taken over by halliburton and the interim leader and imperialists [17:47] highest_cubist_thrills NOT BETTER [17:47] highest_cubist_thrills the same thing happened in iraq and the fsf [17:47] highest_cubist_thrills same tactics, same promises! same results. [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills how am i supposed to put a positive spin on this [17:48] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills answer: i dont give a fuck [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills the more people ask me to, the more insane they have to be [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills its not getting better [17:48] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #techrights [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills its not going to anytime soon [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills this has gone on since 2018 at the latest [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills not 2019 [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills that was a shame [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills and a sham [17:48] highest_cubist_thrills 2018 was also a sham [17:49] highest_cubist_thrills theyre just looking for excuses-- as was [17:49] highest_cubist_thrills i mean iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 [17:49] highest_cubist_thrills stallman had nothing to do with epstein [17:49] highest_cubist_thrills thought policing has nothing to do with "safety" at lieplanet either [17:49] highest_cubist_thrills is lieplanet safe? [17:49] schestowitz[TR] it's a bogus controversy [17:49] highest_cubist_thrills no. its a complete liability. [17:50] schestowitz[TR] that's what can even rile up the victim more [17:50] schestowitz[TR] the target [17:50] schestowitz[TR] that it is a false accusation [17:50] highest_cubist_thrills it's a bogus controversy <- the bogus controversy that ate the free software movement [17:50] schestowitz[TR] anddd they never apologised or corrected themselves [17:50] highest_cubist_thrills anddd they never apologised or corrected themselves <- and they never will [17:50] schestowitz[TR] they will try again [17:50] schestowitz[TR] more targets, same methods [17:50] highest_cubist_thrills narcissists dont apologise for anything meaningful [17:50] highest_cubist_thrills more targets, same methods <- yep [17:50] highest_cubist_thrills its not a coup [17:50] highest_cubist_thrills its a fucking occupation [17:51] schestowitz[TR] ye, but we fight back [17:51] schestowitz[TR] and you can win [17:51] highest_cubist_thrills no you dont [17:51] schestowitz[TR] they meanwhile fire many staff [17:51] schestowitz[TR] icbm, mcirosoft.. [17:51] schestowitz[TR] .they are [17:51] schestowitz[TR] they are suffering too [17:51] schestowitz[TR] like russia [17:51] highest_cubist_thrills no theyre not [17:51] schestowitz[TR] while attackingf ukrainer [17:51] schestowitz[TR] they both have casualties [17:51] highest_cubist_thrills layoffs do not hurt ibm [17:52] schestowitz[TR] oh really? [17:52] highest_cubist_thrills thats like saying the third suffered, they lost millions of jews [17:52] highest_cubist_thrills they were exterminating them [17:52] highest_cubist_thrills third reich [17:52] schestowitz[TR] and how did it all end up? [17:52] highest_cubist_thrills the third reich suffers too, they had to shove so many people into ovens [17:52] schestowitz[TR] they did a lot more [17:52] highest_cubist_thrills and how did it all end up? <- this is a dumber question than you think [17:52] schestowitz[TR] they killed tens of millions [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills because the problem was everyone fucking supported it [17:53] schestowitz[TR] and much of europe won't trust germany for 100 years [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills yeah, they stopped it AFTER millions died. [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills we are still at the hundreds of thousands, metaphorically speaking [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills and youre like [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills "but the third reich is suffering too!" [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills yeah well, [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills millions of metaphorical lives later [17:53] TR News "For many years, the Linux community has claimed that running anti-virus programs is not necessary on Linux. But as Linux gains more popularity, and as more viruses start targeting Linux, is it time that we reconsider the need for AV on Linux?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=49eBJAKyrls [17:53] TR Bot Should You Run Anti-Virus On Linux? - Invidious [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills your thesis will be fucking irrelevant [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills because none of this is slowing down [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills and your prognosis of ibm and microsoft should be written in crayon [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills or maybe fingerpaints [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills you are giving them what they want [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills a big smiley face painted with bullshit [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills exactly what i will not do [17:55] highest_cubist_thrills ibm and microsoft arent suffering [17:55] highest_cubist_thrills its a nice thought [17:55] highest_cubist_thrills but its crap [17:56] highest_cubist_thrills people arent fighting [17:56] highest_cubist_thrills and its not enough [17:56] highest_cubist_thrills and pretending isnt fixing shit [17:56] highest_cubist_thrills the fsf pretends-- does it help? no. [17:56] highest_cubist_thrills it covers up the problem [17:56] highest_cubist_thrills its like an alcoholic hiding the bottles [17:56] highest_cubist_thrills "ive been drinking less!" [17:56] highest_cubist_thrills no you havent, you just threw the bottles out [17:57] TR News Came Full Circle - Even a Stopped Clock https://blog.jimmac.eu/2022/came-full-circle/ Source: Jakub Steiner | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.jimmac.eu/2022/came-full-circle/ [17:57] TR Bot Came Full Circle - Even a Stopped Clock [17:57] highest_cubist_thrills smirnoff is losing money! because of putin [17:57] highest_cubist_thrills yada yada yada ● Sep 22 [18:00] highest_cubist_thrills the free software directory is mostly github and stallman cancellers [18:00] highest_cubist_thrills WAY more than half [18:00] highest_cubist_thrills so i went through the entire thing [18:00] highest_cubist_thrills and removed all that [18:00] highest_cubist_thrills the entire. thing. [18:01] highest_cubist_thrills it took months [18:01] highest_cubist_thrills why? [18:01] highest_cubist_thrills its not easy to find a metric that represents the state of free software [18:01] highest_cubist_thrills the state of the ACTUALLY positive [18:02] highest_cubist_thrills whats actually left? [18:02] TR News "This has prompted Chainguard to produce Wolfi, a new Linux '(un)distribution' and build toolchain, that's been designed from the ground up to produce container images that meet the requirements of a secure software supply chain." https://betanews.com/2022/09/22/wolfi-linux-is-designed-to-safeguard-the-software-supply-chain/ [18:02] TR Bot Wolfi Linux is designed to safeguard the software supply chain [18:02] highest_cubist_thrills well, ive done more (detailed) research on that than anyone [18:02] highest_cubist_thrills youve done more research thats broader-- plenty of details, but broader [18:02] highest_cubist_thrills like stalins plowing [18:03] TR News Indias Draft Telecommunication Bill must be revamped to protect human rights - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/telecommunication-bill-india/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/telecommunication-bill-india/ [18:03] TR Bot Indias Draft Telecommunication Bill must be revamped to protect human rights - Access Now [18:03] highest_cubist_thrills ive dug more than a metre into the soil [18:03] highest_cubist_thrills to see whats left of this movement [18:04] highest_cubist_thrills free software (the software) still exists [18:04] highest_cubist_thrills theyre certainly trying to put a yoke on everything, theyve done a good job [18:04] highest_cubist_thrills but some things still exist [18:04] TR News Art class stinks! Learn with smell in art class using this olfactory display | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/art-class-stinks-learn-with-smell-in-art-class-using-this-olfactory-display/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/art-class-stinks-learn-with-smell-in-art-class-using-this-olfactory-display/ [18:04] TR Bot Art class stinks! Learn with smell in art class using this olfactory display | Arduino Blog [18:04] highest_cubist_thrills even if they put a yoke on that too [18:04] highest_cubist_thrills at least ive got a fine collection of canaries [18:04] TR News (NEW): OpenCL 3.0.12 Released With Command Buffers Mutable Dispatch Extension and Enhanced Layers Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OpenCL_3_0_12_Released_With_Command_Buffers_Mutable_Dispatch_Ex.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OpenCL_3_0_12_Released_With_Command_Buffers_Mutable_Dispatch_Ex.gmi [18:04] TR Bot Tux Machines OpenCL 3.0.12 Released With Command Buffers Mutable Dispatch Extension and Enhanced Layers Support [18:05] highest_cubist_thrills but heres the thing [18:05] highest_cubist_thrills if you look at the parts of the free software directory that arent on github, and arent stallman cancellers [18:05] highest_cubist_thrills and didnt join the gnu.fools trademark fraud that you downplayed as a patsy of a corrupt fsf. [18:05] highest_cubist_thrills because i scooped you. [18:06] highest_cubist_thrills youll notice a trend in whats "left" of free software, at least according to the fsd [18:06] highest_cubist_thrills its ancient. its old. MUCH of it is simply abandoned [18:06] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, if youre looking for an image viewer [18:06] highest_cubist_thrills and dont want github or traitors [18:07] highest_cubist_thrills well, i have good news [18:07] highest_cubist_thrills you can use xzgv [18:08] highest_cubist_thrills https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Xzgv [18:08] TR Bot Xzgv - Free Software Directory [18:08] highest_cubist_thrills actually... i should probably remove that [18:08] highest_cubist_thrills 'xzgv' is a GTK+/Imlib-based picture viewer for X, which supports most popular image formats [18:08] highest_cubist_thrills GTK+ [18:09] highest_cubist_thrills i believe gtk+ exists only on github [18:09] highest_cubist_thrills but whatever, xzgv isnt based there [18:09] highest_cubist_thrills and i guess i havent disqualified projects that use gtk+ [18:09] highest_cubist_thrills https://sourceforge.net/projects/xzgv/ [18:09] TR Bot image viewer download | SourceForge.net [18:09] highest_cubist_thrills Picture viewer for the X Window System [18:10] highest_cubist_thrills the least traitorous picture viewer in the fsd [18:10] highest_cubist_thrills ive done my research. [18:10] highest_cubist_thrills its FUCKING OLD [18:10] highest_cubist_thrills and its STILL HERE, which-- good! [18:10] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, unix terms are still here, and theyre even older [18:10] highest_cubist_thrills old isnt all bad-- gnome 2 > gnome 3 [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills but when everything that hasnt joined a coup or joined github (which lets be real here, is also a coup) [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills is old [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills it suggests, VERY strongly [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills that no one is fighting [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills if we squint-- and we will have to [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills we can spot exceptions that prove the rule [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills there must be a few people fighting, doing whats right [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills the movement is dead [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills exceptions are few [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills but hey [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills we can still fool ourselves [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills credit where credit is due [18:12] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills no one who is fighting wants to talk about it [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills theyre afraid to talk about it? [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills thats the state of free software [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills everyone is afraid to admit they stand for anything at all. [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills well [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills thats TERRIFIC [18:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [18:13] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [18:13] highest_cubist_thrills sounds AWESOME [18:13] highest_cubist_thrills really a thing i want to tell people to sign up for [18:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [18:13] highest_cubist_thrills join these doormice who squeek for your freedom [18:13] highest_cubist_thrills theres at least four of them [18:13] highest_cubist_thrills but theyre really good [18:14] highest_cubist_thrills i always think IM being too negative you know [18:14] highest_cubist_thrills i thought i was being too negative when i decided many years ago not to attend lieplanet with my then gf [18:15] highest_cubist_thrills i thought the "guidelines" were to sjw-ish and too likely to lead to me being harassed over some misunderstanding [18:15] highest_cubist_thrills but as ive said many times, i never thought that shit would lead to an actual organisational coup to behead the leadership [18:15] highest_cubist_thrills the point is [18:15] highest_cubist_thrills sometimes no amount of pessimism is enough [18:15] highest_cubist_thrills thats why you cant say mincer is an idiot [18:15] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, hes not [18:16] highest_cubist_thrills but its much worse-- all the evidence is on HIS side. [18:16] highest_cubist_thrills thats bad! [18:16] highest_cubist_thrills i try to find exceptions to the rule [18:17] highest_cubist_thrills meanwhile, when the hubble fucking telescope finds a silver lining fucking light years from here [18:17] highest_cubist_thrills these lieplanet cunts go and make a liar out of me for MERELY thinking its crap [18:17] highest_cubist_thrills what i SHOULD HAVE SAID was its nuclear sentient concentrated EVIL bullshit on FIRE [18:18] highest_cubist_thrills but i was trying to be positive about it. [18:18] highest_cubist_thrills stupid me. [18:18] highest_cubist_thrills if people want positivity [18:19] highest_cubist_thrills maybe stop handing everything to literal nazi ibm, and their mini me, microsoft [18:19] highest_cubist_thrills THEN we can talk about progress. [18:19] highest_cubist_thrills that would be a good start! [18:20] highest_cubist_thrills in the meantime [18:20] highest_cubist_thrills pkg_add xzgv [18:20] highest_cubist_thrills it works [18:20] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [18:21] MinceR if humans want positivity, they need to stop fucking everything up as hard as they can [18:23] TR News Right wing politics on Gemini gemini://idiomdrottning.org/right-wing-politics-on-gemini "I couldnt fault anyone who bought into that worldview for going right wing. It doesnt surprise me. It just breaks my heart." [18:42] *bnchs (~bnchs@7tv7xg7ikabeq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:52] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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Reactionaries love to be heard." gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry/66 [20:34] TR News Siddhartha by Herman Hesse gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/siddhartha.gmi [20:36] TR News (NEW): Linux Vs Windows 10 Key Differences That One Should Know http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Linux_Vs_Windows_10_Key_Differences_That_One_Should_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Linux_Vs_Windows_10_Key_Differences_That_One_Should_Know.gmi [20:36] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux Vs Windows 10 Key Differences That One Should Know [20:36] TR News (NEW): Interview with Martin Dougiamas of Moodle http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Interview_with_Martin_Dougiamas_of_Moodle.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Interview_with_Martin_Dougiamas_of_Moodle.gmi [20:36] TR Bot Tux Machines Interview with Martin Dougiamas of Moodle [20:36] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi [20:36] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [20:40] TR News "We cover events and user groups that are running in Romania. 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Insane! https://ubuntu.com//blog/public-cloud-for-telco-part-2-google-cloud-platform [21:00] TR Bot cloud for telco Part 2: Google Cloud Platform | Ubuntu [21:00] starstreak i use hexchat btw [21:00] starstreak btw btw btw [21:00] DaemonFC Well, the "UNIX" way is not always "the best" way, but operating systems don't have to limit themselves. They can copy ideas that worked on other systems and leave the rest. [21:01] DaemonFC For example, Linux no longer abuses SWAP as a scratch pad, except maybe Debian. [21:01] DaemonFC Temporary files are temporary. The POSIX standard makes no guarantee that they'll survive past a reboot. [21:02] TR News A Python security fix breaks (some) bignums [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/907572/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/907572/ [21:02] TR Bot Python security fix breaks (some) bignums [LWN.net] [21:02] DaemonFC They _should_ go onto a RAM disk, especially now that RAM and compression are cheap (price and computationally). [21:02] TR News A pair of Rust kernel modules [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/907685/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/907685/ [21:02] TR Bot pair of Rust kernel modules [LWN.net] [21:03] TR News

    [21:03] TR News The transparent huge page shrinker [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/906511/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/906511/ [21:03] TR Bot transparent huge page shrinker [LWN.net] [21:03] DaemonFC But high RAM systems have typically only needed a partition or file for SWAP because SWAP was being abused as a big tent, to put not only pages while the system was under pressure, but also for putting temporary files that should have been on the disk somewhere else, or even in RAM. [21:04] DaemonFC What you have here is not so much a design or a standard, is that everyone just started doing it. [21:06] starstreak i have 16GB of ram and i don't mind that my system uses 2GB [21:07] starstreak and this is a 2013 computer [21:07] starstreak my next computer is going to have 64gb ram [21:07] TR News (NEW): Rust: Compiling in GCC, Adoption by Linux, and New Release http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Rust_Compiling_in_GCC_Adoption_by_Linux_and_New_Release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Rust_Compiling_in_GCC_Adoption_by_Linux_and_New_Release.gmi [21:07] TR Bot Tux Machines Rust: Compiling in GCC, Adoption by Linux, and New Release [21:08] starstreak its like the 90s again, when 64mb was a lot of ram [21:09] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Leftovers.gmi [21:09] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [21:10] psydroid2 256 GB of RAM to run KPatience [21:10] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Chris eye exam chart over at ZDNet reviewed a fake cat and worked in a shout out to "Microsoft Teams". LOL [21:10] bnchs hi [21:13] TR News Notice how all the Linux haters and Microsoft boot lickers are CELEBRATING what Canonical is doing! https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-adds-systemd-to-the-windows-subsystem-for-linux/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/ [21:13] TR Bot Microsoft adds 'systemd' to the Windows Subsystem for Linux [21:13] TR Bot Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd | Techrights [21:14] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: zdnet will die in a few years [21:14] techuser "future" [21:14] TR News Codenotary CEO Moshe Bar Named to AlmaLinux Board of Directors https://www.citybiz.co/article/324292/codenotary-ceo-moshe-bar-named-to-almalinux-board-of-directors/ [21:14] TR Bot Codenotary CEO Moshe Bar Named to AlmaLinux Board of Directors | citybiz [21:14] techuser by the time GNU/Linux is mainstream, it will be dead completely [21:14] techuser we shouldn't have wasted our time [21:15] techuser Luis64_gamer: I think it is relevant, however [21:15] techuser (systemd in WSL) [21:15] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:15] techuser oh, though it is Windows 11 [21:18] TR News Update: 3 more regarding Wolfi https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml [21:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [21:19] TR News Corruption disguised as 'journalism' by Crystal Crowder. "This is a sponsored article and was made possible by Creality.". So this review is fake, it's spam, sponsored by the company it's about. https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/creality-cr-laser-falcon-engraver/ [21:19] TR Bot Creality CR-Laser Falcon Engraver 10W: Smooth Engraving & Cutting - Make Tech Easier [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:22] TR News Enterprise Linux Security Episode 43 - Grand Theft Data - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=O81Obqy8tBw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/O81Obqy8tBw [21:22] TR Bot Enterprise Linux Security Episode 43 - Grand Theft Data - Invidious [21:22] TR News "Found this "Solar Queen" at a gift shop in Stratford, Ontario. Too soon?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ajUP4rCty0 [21:22] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=7ajUP4rCty0 [21:22] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | #shorts Queen Elizabeth II Waves Goodbye - Invidious [21:23] TR News Will Automation Replace Tech Jobs? @John Hammond - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hS4gYNeeKag | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/hS4gYNeeKag [21:23] TR Bot Will Automation Replace Tech Jobs? @John Hammond - Invidious [21:24] TR News EndeavourOS 22.9 overview | A terminal-centric distro with a vibrant and friendly community. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Nq5INWpPFxQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Nq5INWpPFxQ [21:24] TR Bot EndeavourOS 22.9 overview | A terminal-centric distro with a vibrant and friendly community. - Invidious [21:24] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: "Chris Polack" seems to be going for the "How many junk articles can I write about McDonalds and Microsoft?" record. [21:26] DaemonFC " The industry should treat C and C++ languages as 'deprecated', says Azure CTO." -Liam Tung [21:26] DaemonFC LOL [21:26] DaemonFC "Rust, which hit version 1.0 in 2020 and was born at Mozilla, is now being used within the Android Open Source Project (AOSP), at Meta, at Amazon Web Services, at Microsoft for parts of Windows and Azure, in the Linux kernel, and in many other places." [21:27] DaemonFC Before Rust, 1.0 usually meant that something was stable, at least until a new major version was out. [21:27] TR News Bobby Borisov helps Microsoft by promoting an ATTACK on GNU/Linux !!! https://linuxiac.com/wsl-systemd-support/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/ [21:27] TR Bot WSL Gets Systemd Support, Here's How to Enable It [21:28] DaemonFC If you want to constantly have to do code re-writes and refactoring due to breaking changes within a "stable" branch, you can use Rust. [21:28] TR News Shop fan automatically activates when airborne particulates are present | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/shop-fan-automatically-activates-when-airborne-particulates-are-present/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/shop-fan-automatically-activates-when-airborne-particulates-are-present/ [21:28] TR Bot Shop fan automatically activates when airborne particulates are present | Arduino Blog [21:28] MinceR 22 222622 < DaemonFC> " The industry should treat C and C++ languages as 'deprecated', says Azure CTO." -Liam Tung [21:28] MinceR what language will that dumbass write a kernel in? [21:28] DaemonFC That sounds a lot worse than figuring out your garbage collection situation in a C program. [21:28] TR News Mokey is an affordable DIY laser engraver | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/mokey-is-an-affordable-diy-laser-engraver/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/mokey-is-an-affordable-diy-laser-engraver/ [21:28] TR Bot Mokey is an affordable DIY laser engraver | Arduino Blog [21:29] DaemonFC "Engineers value its "memory safety guarantees"[...]Microsoft drove home this point in 2019 after revealing 70% of its patches in the past 12 years were fixes for memory safety bugs due largely to Windows being written mostly in C and C++. " [21:29] TR News "I think ew0k killed his own idea by releasing Antenna. Antenna is great, especially since you can filter out specific feeds fairly easily, but if someday the community is willing to put collective effort into something less centralized, we could start with the above." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220922_right_wing [21:29] DaemonFC It's a poor craftsman that blames his tools. [21:31] starstreak my AI art generator uses 5GB ram [21:31] starstreak it used to use 10 but there was an update [21:31] DaemonFC MinceR: I've noticed that all of the really awful programs that just guzzle memory and crash seem to be written in Python. [21:31] DaemonFC Maybe they should try to write an OS in that. [21:32] starstreak That's why I hate python [21:32] DaemonFC Because you're a transphobe? [21:32] DaemonFC Only transphobes hate Python. [21:32] starstreak you're a transphobe [21:32] TR News Stop suppressing the population: authorities in Iran must #KeepItOn - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/iran-authorities-must-keepiton/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/iran-authorities-must-keepiton/ [21:32] TR Bot Stop suppressing the population: authorities in Iran must #KeepItOn - Access Now [21:32] MinceR you're a towel! [21:32] starstreak no, you're a towel [21:32] DaemonFC I'm not a towel! YOU'RE A FUCKING TOWEL! [21:33] starstreak no sir, you are in fact, the turd sandwich [21:33] DaemonFC I'll think about this, but first I'm gonna get a little high. [21:33] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/kV2g1UZ.mp4 [21:33] MinceR you wanna get high? [21:33] *darwin has quit (connection closed) [21:33] TR News Arm Is The New RISC/Unix, RISC-V Is The New Arm https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/ Source: The Next Platform | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/ [21:33] TR Bot Arm Is The New RISC/Unix, RISC-V Is The New Arm [21:33] starstreak yeah i want to get high [21:34] *bnchs (~bnchs@7tv7xg7ikabeq.irc) has joined #techrights [21:35] DaemonFC MinceR: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gwxbr9iDhYs [21:35] TR Bot Terminator 2 T1000 liquid body scene through prison bar door - Invidious [21:35] TR News How We Fixed Reboot Loops on the Librem Mini - Purism https://puri.sm/posts/how-we-fixed-reboot-loops-on-the-librem-mini/ Source: Purism | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//puri.sm/posts/how-we-fixed-reboot-loops-on-the-librem-mini/ [21:35] TR Bot How We Fixed Reboot Loops on the Librem Mini Purism [21:35] DaemonFC MinceR: Mom said that's how the neighbor's cat kept getting in to pee on her laundry. [21:36] DaemonFC Our garage door didn't shut all the way and so the cat had a few inches to flatten itself and get in and pee all over her clothes hamper. [21:36] DaemonFC So she threw the cat in the trunk and let it out in a field several miles from the house, and the thing found its way back to the neighbor several weeks later. [21:37] DaemonFC The neighbor said, "Kathy, you'll never guess what happened. My cat was missing for 3 weeks and then he just walked right in!". [21:37] DaemonFC And the cat was looking at her. [21:37] DaemonFC She said it never came in to pee on the laundry again. [21:37] DaemonFC They're not stupid. [21:39] DaemonFC It just takes a lot for a cat to learn not to fuck with you. [21:39] DaemonFC They always test the limits of what you'll let them get away with. [21:40] TR News Cockpit 277 https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-277.html [21:40] TR Bot Cockpit 277 Cockpit Project [21:40] DaemonFC I broke my cats of some bad habits by spraying them with water every time they did it until they saw me reach for the spray bottle and stopped immediately. Eventually, they just stopped doing the thing. [21:40] TR News Connecting to the RHEL web console, part 1: SSH access methods https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/connecting-rhel-web-console-part-1-ssh-access-methods Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/connecting-rhel-web-console-part-1-ssh-access-methods [21:40] TR Bot Connecting to the RHEL web console, part 1: SSH access methods [21:41] DaemonFC MinceR: My Maine Coon's name is Bobbi, so I just shorten it to Bob, and then I saw that Doctor Who episode with the Weeping Angel that killed Cleric Bob and then used his voice to taunt the doctor. [21:42] DaemonFC He started calling it Angel Bob, so that's what I started calling the cat. [21:42] MinceR :> [21:46] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware: RISC-V, Arduino, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Open_Hardware_RISC_V_Arduino_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Open_Hardware_RISC_V_Arduino_and_More.gmi [21:46] TR Bot Tux Machines Open Hardware: RISC-V, Arduino, and More [21:47] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:48] DaemonFC https://yewtu.be/watch?v=41J1nbFABgk [21:48] TR Bot Trust me (T-800 with minigun) | Terminator 2 [Remastered] - Invidious [21:48] DaemonFC My favorite scene. [21:49] TR News Bloat on top of bloat. Should browsers have this built in? https://www.addictivetips.com/internet-tips/how-to-inspect-element/ [21:49] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/internet-tips/how-to-inspect-element/ ) [21:50] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.2.gmi [21:50] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [21:50] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:50] psydroid2 Azure CTO = Windows proponent Mark Russinovich [21:50] psydroid2 these people all parrot each other [21:51] TR News WSL links do not, as per the usual, go into TuxMachines are Techrigths. WSL is Windows. We DO NOT COVER WINDOWS. WSL is even worse than Windows because it's a direct attack on GNU/Linux; this is its SOLE purpose. [21:52] TR News So-called 'Linux' sites that cover/promote WSL obviously haven't the faintest clue about what's going on [21:53] TR News (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.1.gmi [21:53] TR Bot Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers [21:53] TR News WSL loves GNU/Linux like Putin loves Ukraine [21:53] TR News (NEW): Videos/Shows: EndeavourOS, Enterprise Linux Security, The Linux Link Tech Show, Anti-Virus On Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Videos_Shows_EndeavourOS_Enterprise_Linux_Security_The_Linux_Li.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Videos_Shows_EndeavourOS_Enterprise_Linux_Security_The_Linux_Li.gmi [21:53] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos/Shows: EndeavourOS, Enterprise Linux Security, The Linux Link Tech Show, Anti-Virus On Linux [21:53] TR News (NEW): Kdenlive Devs Need Your Help to Implement Nested Timelines, New Effects Panel http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Kdenlive_Devs_Need_Your_Help_to_Implement_Nested_Timelines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Kdenlive_Devs_Need_Your_Help_to_Implement_Nested_Timelines.gmi [21:53] TR Bot Tux Machines Kdenlive Devs Need Your Help to Implement Nested Timelines, New Effects Panel [21:54] TR News Jim Zemlin loves Bill Gates. But Jim is too old to interest Gates. http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/jim-admires-bill/ [21:54] TR Bot Sheela Microsoft (Zemlin) Does Not Like Linux and Jim Zemlin Idolises Bill Gates | Techrights [21:55] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: What? Do you mean like the 3d DOM inspector that Mozilla introduced in 2011 just to rip out again a few years later because "Quantum DOM" was incompatible? [21:55] TR News ICBM Red Hat targeting clowns. After all the brain drain (many quit Red hat in droves) they have little left but buzzwords and brands (like OpenShit) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/role-based-access-control-red-hat-hybrid-cloud-console [21:55] TR Bot Role-based access control for Red Hat Hybrid Cloud Console [21:55] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: yes [21:55] schestowitz[TR] reminds me of netscape [21:55] schestowitz[TR] why not have a whole IDE inside firefox? [21:55] schestowitz[TR] they say RSS is too much [21:56] schestowitz[TR] and you should have to dfownload extensions [21:56] schestowitz[TR] but all that DOm inspection... BUIOLT IN [21:56] schestowitz[TR] like the average user will ever need that [21:56] DaemonFC The Web Inspector is actually a fair bit of code in Webkit. [21:56] schestowitz[TR] yes [21:56] schestowitz[TR] it's massive [21:56] schestowitz[TR] it's bloiat [21:56] schestowitz[TR] yuou can see by using it [21:56] schestowitz[TR] it's no small feature [21:56] DaemonFC I doubt anyone using Webkit is checking anything other than that their site isn't terribly broken in it. [21:57] schestowitz[TR] but Mozilla Bakersoft is removing a lot of very simple stuff [21:57] schestowitz[TR] that average users would USE [21:57] schestowitz[TR] they even SPY on firefox users [21:57] schestowitz[TR] to klater justify those awful decisions [21:57] schestowitz[TR] and remove code that's very samlal [21:57] DaemonFC In Webkit, the DOM inspector also has to analyze network stack activity and display it to the user. [21:57] schestowitz[TR] and pases no potnent securit risks [21:57] DaemonFC Including what Content Blockers are up to. [21:57] schestowitz[TR] like they removed gopher support [21:57] schestowitz[TR] eich opposed this obviously [21:58] schestowitz[TR] but latte hipsters won [21:58] DaemonFC Content Blockers REQUIRE JavaScript because the format is JSON compiled to Bytecode. [21:58] schestowitz[TR] it's like the objective was all along just to ruin sifreof'x prospects [21:59] schestowitz[TR] same for thunderbird [21:59] schestowitz[TR] a TON of functionality REMOVED [21:59] schestowitz[TR] thunderbird was was most used application fore like a decade [21:59] schestowitz[TR] now it's no longer enjoyable to use [21:59] schestowitz[TR] it's almost as wqorthless as webmail [21:59] schestowitz[TR] and they push for "app" now ● Sep 22 [22:00] schestowitz[TR] Android etc. [22:00] schestowitz[TR] what next? gmail integration [22:00] schestowitz[TR] thunderbird also had some irc support, among other things [22:00] schestowitz[TR] built in [22:00] DaemonFC Well, you get into a sort of feedback loop where every stupid design decision is very easy to justify because all the code to enable other stupid design choices is there already. [22:00] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:01] DaemonFC Then if you want to back any of it out later, you have a dependency tree. [22:01] DaemonFC This is the mess Microsoft got themselves in with Windows and why it's scandalously large now. [22:01] schestowitz[TR] not sure large is the word [22:01] schestowitz[TR] large can be OK [22:01] schestowitz[TR] depending on the structure [22:02] *techrights_guest|18 (~2e0746d2@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [22:02] schestowitz[TR] hi, techrights_guest|18 [22:02] techuser hi [22:02] DaemonFC Five terminals, three Web browsers (including two that the user isn't permitted to launch, except there's bugs in Windows that allow it to happen sometimes).... [22:03] DaemonFC Several distinct versions of the .NET framework. [22:03] DaemonFC Library version proliferation instead of layering, which would make more sense. [22:04] *techrights_guest|18 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [22:04] DaemonFC It turns out that, internally, the MSVCR.DLL has all of the latest features in it, but unless you use the WDK to compile your application, there's no way to get at them, so you "library bundle" and cause a security disaster that's impossible for Microsoft to service in a centralized fashion. [22:05] TR News David REVOY: I sign letters that call RMS stuff... after RMS called Epstein a "serial rapist". I also draw sexy little girls. https://www.davidrevoy.com/article927/sara-the-opengameart-mascot [22:05] TR Bot Sara, the OpenGameArt mascot - David Revoy [22:05] DaemonFC SeaMonkey 2.57 is basically vaporware. [22:05] DaemonFC Rebasing on Gecko 60+ will be very difficult. [22:05] DaemonFC The Suite code isn't in a good state for e10s or any of the rest of "Quantum". [22:06] DaemonFC Some of the Suite is still based on Firefox 1.5 or 2. [22:06] TR News Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The 2022 State of HEY HI in the Enterprise https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/09/the-2022-state-of-ai-in-the-enterprise.html Source: IBM Old Timer | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/09/the-2022-state-of-ai-in-the-enterprise.html [22:06] TR Bot Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The 2022 State of AI in the Enterprise [22:15] TR News Microsoft Will Soon be Unlisted in Netcrafts Web Survey (Due to Minuscule, Negligible Market Share) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/22/netcraft-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/22/netcraft-microsoft/ [22:15] TR Bot Microsoft Will Soon be Unlisted in Netcrafts Web Survey (Due to Minuscule, Negligible Market Share) | Techrights [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:20] *mib_jqaide (~ac3ae37a@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:20] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:20] TR News (NEW): What Is Crystal Linux? Everything You Need to Know http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/What_Is_Crystal_Linux_Everything_You_Need_to_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/What_Is_Crystal_Linux_Everything_You_Need_to_Know.gmi [22:20] TR Bot Tux Machines What Is Crystal Linux? Everything You Need to Know [22:20] *mib_jqaide has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [22:22] starstreak [britney@archbtw ~]$ uname -r [22:22] starstreak 5.19.10-arch1-1 [22:22] starstreak i use arch btw [22:23] starstreak linucks [22:28] schestowitz[TR] uname -btw [22:29] TR News Slackware: Chromium 105.0.5195.125 packages available (also ungoogled) | Alien Pastures https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/chromium-105-0-5195-125-packages-available-also-ungoogled/ Source: Eric Hameleers | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//alien.slackbook.org/blog/chromium-105-0-5195-125-packages-available-also-ungoogled/ [22:29] TR Bot Chromium 105.0.5195.125 packages available (also ungoogled) | Alien Pastures [22:30] TR News Alarmist garbage from The Register; to exploit this you need to feed it rogue files https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/22/python_vulnerability_tarfile/ [22:30] TR Bot 15-year-old Python flaw found in 'over 350,000' projects The Register [22:31] TR News Nvidia Racer RTX: Imagine what a Next-Gen Version of Re-Volt Would Look Like, And More on DLSS3 - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/nvidia-racer-rtx-imagine-what-a-next-gen-version-of-re-volt-would-look-like-and-more-on-dlss3/ Source: Boiling Steam [22:31] TR Bot Nvidia Racer RTX: Imagine what a Next-Gen Version of Re-Volt Would Look Like, And More on DLSS3 - Boiling Steam [22:34] TR News The Kumatologist: Vaughan Cornishs Wave Studies (191014) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/cornish-waves/ Source: Public Domain Review | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicdomainreview.org/collection/cornish-waves/ [22:34] TR Bot The Kumatologist: Vaughan Cornishs Wave Studies (191014) The Public Domain Review [22:37] DaemonFC https://scontent-nrt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/308197262_650843529837785_5004510492404043332_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=X3Wghsfo5EQAX8jCqXW&tn=UndYO5-j7WtqJGpX&_nc_ht=scontent-nrt1-1.xx&oh=00_AT_DZiO5iHOeo3E8PLcMzS2DC4lqM-QrV9dngYl3PaCRqg&oe=63312698 [22:38] DaemonFC starstreak5.19.10-arch1-1 [22:39] DaemonFC That's the kernel in Fedora-testing right now. [22:39] DaemonFC 5.19.10 [22:39] DaemonFC It just follows the latest upstream kernels. [22:39] starstreak yeah fedora is pretty good at keeping up to date [22:39] TR News "I didn't have any expectations against these Vizio TVs, as a matter of fact I have been using other Vizio TVs so far simply because the price and the sizes we needed at the given moments." gemini://warp.geminispace.club/~freezr/gemlog/2022-09-22-il-solito-brutto-vizio.gmi [22:39] starstreak i think XRevan86 probably has 5.19.10 already, opensuse has been super fast [22:40] XRevan86 I can get it, but I'd need to reboot. [22:40] starstreak i rebooted already :) [22:40] TR News So when did POP and IMAP become a legacy protocol? :"But on another level, this is concerning. Even though Microsoft announced this three years ago, it comes across as locking email down into a more centalized, proprietary system. I do have to wonder how long until Google decides that only certain clients can connect with Gmail?" gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/09/22.1 [22:41] starstreak "I do have to wonder how long until Google decides that only certain clients can connect with Gmail?" <- it has already done so [22:42] starstreak Google recently locked out imap without xauth2 or an app specific password [22:42] TR News (NEW): Mesa 22.2 Graphics Stack Brings Improvements for Halo Infinite, Minecraft, and Other Games http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Mesa_22_2_Graphics_Stack_Brings_Improvements_for_Halo_Infinite.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Mesa_22_2_Graphics_Stack_Brings_Improvements_for_Halo_Infinite.gmi [22:42] TR Bot Tux Machines Mesa 22.2 Graphics Stack Brings Improvements for Halo Infinite, Minecraft, and Other Games [22:42] TR News (NEW): weston 11.0.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/weston_11_0_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/weston_11_0_0.gmi [22:42] TR Bot Tux Machines weston 11.0.0 [22:44] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [22:44] starstreak I switched from Outlook.com to Tutanota and Protonmail [22:44] TR News Zoho https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/22/cisa-has-added-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog [22:44] TR Bot CISA Has Added One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA [22:44] starstreak I have a google mail account I use for job search only [22:45] starstreak i tried getting google mail to work in alpine (tui email) but xauth2 wanted authorization every time i started the client [22:45] TR News Clown computing: there's a new rule here, the priority of all services is not the spy agencies, such as the NSA. Social control agenda. [22:46] TR News NSA promotes back doors, not security. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/22/cisa-and-nsa-publish-joint-cybersecurity-advisory-control-system [22:46] TR Bot CISA and NSA Publish Joint Cybersecurity Advisory on Control System Defense | CISA [22:46] MinceR https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdRyU7eXEAEqVOq?format=jpg&name=orig [22:48] TR News 4 new posts from CISA: https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml [22:48] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [22:49] schestowitz[TR] I switched from Outlook.com to Tutanota and Protonmail [22:49] schestowitz[TR] some people try to paint those as "crime" [22:49] schestowitz[TR] i tried getting google mail to work in alpine (tui email) but xauth2 wanted authorization every time i started the client [22:49] schestowitz[TR] google mail is not email [22:49] schestowitz[TR] gmail is not email [22:50] schestowitz[TR] it's like calling github "git" [22:50] schestowitz[TR] github is an attack on commodity git [22:51] TR News MICROSOFT WINDOWS TCO: "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow a local user with limited privileges to modify the service binary path and start malicious commands with SYSTEM privileges." Notice how they dodge naming Microsoft. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-265-01 [22:51] TR Bot Measuresoft ScadaPro Server | CISA [22:51] starstreak tutanota and protonmail are crime? [22:51] TR News "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability may enable the reading of arbitrary files, cause a denial-of-service condition, and allow execution of a malicious binary." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-20-212-02 [22:51] TR Bot Mitsubishi Electric Factory Automation Engineering Software (Update D) | CISA [22:52] TR News "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could be used to hijack TCP sessions and allow remote command execution." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-20-245-01 [22:52] TR Bot Mitsubishi Electric Multiple Products (Update E) | CISA [22:53] TR News YaST Development Report - Chapter 9 of 2022 https://yast.opensuse.org/blog/2022-09-22/yast-report-2022-9 [22:53] TR Bot YaST Development Report - Chapter 9 of 2022 | YaST [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 138.96 ● Sep 22 [23:08] TR News Unless you allow dodgy people to pass you files and then process these files, without login or input being sanitised, this does not affect you and does not impact many project https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/unpatched-python-library-affects-300k-projects/ [23:08] TR Bot Python Library Affects More Than 300,000 Open Source Projects | eSecurityPlanet [23:09] TR News Corporate and tech media: attention-seeking whores that spread misinformation to sell ads or attract corporate funding (for the bias, lies, PR) [23:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:12] TR News Lionel Landwerlin https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/18637 [23:12] TR Bot anv: reduce cpu overhead for draw command recording (!18637) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab [23:12] TR News You mean due to lies and FUD? https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/20/open-source-security-concerns/ [23:12] TR Bot Open-source software usage slowing down for fear of vulnerabilities, exposures, or risks - Help Net Security [23:17] TR News Dodgy compressed files have LONG been a problem. Like executables, you should be selective which ones you retrieve and process. [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:23] TR News (NEW): GNU Parallel 20220922 ('Elizabeth') released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/GNU_Parallel_20220922_Elizabeth_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/GNU_Parallel_20220922_Elizabeth_released.gmi [23:23] TR Bot Tux Machines GNU Parallel 20220922 ('Elizabeth') released [23:23] TR News (NEW): Pandemic of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt), Fear-mongering http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Pandemic_of_FUD_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_Fear_mongering.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Pandemic_of_FUD_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_Fear_mongering.gmi [23:23] TR Bot Tux Machines Pandemic of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt), Fear-mongering [23:27] TR News Nazi Punks Fuck Off gemini://subphase.xyz/users/flow/gemlog/32-nuance.gmi Gemini community, some of it at least, discovers not everyone is a leftist in Geminispace [23:29] TR News Without FreeDesktop There Is No Linux Desktop! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=a0CIhlzqYi8 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/a0CIhlzqYi8 [23:30] TR Bot Without FreeDesktop There Is No Linux Desktop! - Invidious [23:33] MinceR wrong [23:33] MinceR with "free"desktop, there will be no "Linux" desktop [23:36] starstreak linucks [23:39] schestowitz[TR] he's not best informed [23:39] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:39] schestowitz[TR] he gets his 'facts' from microsoftt reddit [23:42] TR News (NEW): Graphics: FreeDesktop, Nvidia, and Vulkan http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Graphics_FreeDesktop_Nvidia_and_Vulkan.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Graphics_FreeDesktop_Nvidia_and_Vulkan.gmi [23:42] TR Bot Tux Machines Graphics: FreeDesktop, Nvidia, and Vulkan [23:42] TR News (NEW): LibreOffice Fund-raising and Tutorials http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/LibreOffice_Fund_raising_and_Tutorials.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/LibreOffice_Fund_raising_and_Tutorials.gmi [23:42] TR Bot Tux Machines LibreOffice Fund-raising and Tutorials [23:44] TR News Avoid Mozilla Firefox. It seems to have started (maybe not started) spamming new tabs with ads. Not just that VPN spam. Firefox is malware or adware. [23:46] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]he gets his 'facts' from microsoftt reddit [23:46] TR News CentOS collapses under ICBM. "Tru Huynh has decided to step down from the Board of Directors. We thank him for his many years of hard work on the Board and across the entire CentOS project." Like many others. https://blog.centos.org/2022/09/centos-community-newsletter-september-2022/ [23:46] TR Bot Community Newsletter, September 2022 Blog.CentOS.org [23:47] DaemonFC You'll come for the Twink porn and stay for /r/mildlyinteresting. -Reddit [23:47] TR News Adrian Bridgwater still stenographer pretending to be journalist https://www.techrepublic.com/article/red-hat-edge-complexity/ days ago: http://techrights.org/2022/09/17/cheapening-linux-brand-by-hijacking-it/ [23:47] TR Bot Hat on Edge Complexity | TechRepublic [23:48] TR Bot Linux Foundation: We Spend Money Buying the Media, Authoring Self-Serving PR by People Who Reject Linux | Techrights [23:48] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: they censor discussions about high-profile pdephiles [23:49] TR News ICBM wants to get inside your car, not just Hitler's death camps https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-open-source-can-jumpstart-next-wave-software-defined-vehicles [23:49] TR Bot How open source can jumpstart the next wave of software-defined vehicles [23:49] *techuser (~techuser@6gcm9uav88pgc.irc) has joined #techrights [23:50] TR News Rebranding WHAT YOU KILL. ICBM: "The CentOS Brand v2 is the new visual identity of the CentOS Project. We encorage you to use it abundantly. It was recently approved, and is where we will be transitioning to." ttps://blog.centos.org/2022/09/centos-community-newsletter-september-2022/ [23:53] TR News Mindless puff piece, not journalism https://www.crn.com/news/channel-programs/dell-redhat-team-up-lifts-barriers-to-entry-for-kubernetes-environments [23:53] TR Bot Hat Team Lifts Barriers To Entry For Kubernetes Environments | CRN [23:58] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)