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tedbox[20:59] <DaemonFC[m]> With COVID-19 it's getting harder to find old people each day.Mar 23 02:01
tedboxmaybe outdoorMar 23 02:01
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-false-claims-march/index.htmlMar 23 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump made 33 false claims about the coronavirus crisis in the first two weeks of March - CNNPoliticsMar 23 02:34
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tedboxDaemonFC[m]: the orange virusMar 23 04:44
tedboxIn 2008 if you lost your job as the economy collapsed you could at least look for, pursue, seek interviews for another. In 2020 that's not the case as many people cannot even leave the house. The rich won't save us. The super-rich are already having a holiday in some distant islands of theirs.Mar 23 04:44
DaemonFC[m]Basically.Mar 23 04:47
DaemonFC[m]This is the "we are so fucked" recession.Mar 23 04:47
DaemonFC[m]On top of a nuclear furnace for old people that many of them are unwilling to see.Mar 23 04:47
DaemonFC[m]We've been applying for jobs at places that are still open for Mandy, but I'm not expecting anything.Mar 23 04:48
DaemonFC[m]Fucking Walmart is still putting old and disabled people standing near the doors to check receipts.Mar 23 04:48
DaemonFC[m]tedbox: If this virus keeps going on trajectory, by next Sunday about 4,000 Americans could die that day alone.Mar 23 04:49
DaemonFC[m]The Sunday after that it could be 10,000 or more.Mar 23 04:50
DaemonFC[m]Then it just keeps going up and up for months.Mar 23 04:50
DaemonFC[m]They're still downplaying how bad this is.Mar 23 04:50
DaemonFC[m]Thousands or tens of thousands  every day for months.Mar 23 04:50
tedboxyesMar 23 04:51
DaemonFC[m]Those National Guard people aren't being activated to help with food and stuff. They're getting ready to dispose of bodies.Mar 23 04:51
*tedbox is now known as royMar 23 04:51
*roy is now known as roy_on_tedMar 23 04:51
roy_on_tedkatrina againMar 23 04:51
roy_on_tedhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/12923361#75551970b917013646ab7a163e59d8f4Mar 23 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #katrina returns https://www.foxnews.com/us/would-be-looter-in-hurricane-michael-ravaged-florida-shot-killed-after-trying-to-steal-law-enforcement-vehicle-report http://spacecoastdaily.com/2018/10/florida-looter-shot-killed-while-trying-to-steal-law-enforcement-vehicle-after-hurricane-michael/Mar 23 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foxnews.com | Would-be looter in Hurricane Michael-ravaged Florida shot, killed after trying to steal law enforcement vehicle: report | Fox NewsMar 23 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> spacecoastdaily.com | Florida Looter Shot, Killed While Trying To Steal Law Enforcement Vehicle After Hurricane Michael |Mar 23 04:52
DaemonFC[m]roy_on_ted I told my mom take her pension now and get out of the place she works.Mar 23 04:53
DaemonFC[m]Don't leave the house for a few months if she can possibly avoid it.Mar 23 04:53
DaemonFC[m]But she thinks she knows better and that Trump is telling her the truth.Mar 23 04:53
DaemonFC[m]So she says "I'm not going to leave half my pension!".Mar 23 04:54
DaemonFC[m]I said, "If you don't you could leave the entire thing and die.".Mar 23 04:54
DaemonFC[m]Congress is being just as stupid as anyone else who could get out of there and won't.Mar 23 04:57
DaemonFC[m]And lots of them will die too.Mar 23 04:57
DaemonFC[m]Probably starting with one of the five Senators who is in quarantine now.Mar 23 04:57
roy_on_tedRand Paui is positiveMar 23 04:57
roy_on_tedhe'd be perfect for anti-vaxx, tooMar 23 04:57
roy_on_tedIf Pence and wife are positive, they may need lots of "conversion therapy"Mar 23 04:58
roy_on_tedAnd then head of the crisis will "stay positive"Mar 23 04:58
roy_on_ted(literally)Mar 23 04:58
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kingoffrancelol roy_on_ted Mar 23 05:01
roy_on_tedhttps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countriesMar 23 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Coronavirus Update (Live): 338,747 Cases and 14,688 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - WorldometerMar 23 05:02
roy_on_tedwow, 45 more deaths since I last checkedMar 23 05:02
roy_on_tedI think their hospital are now reaching capacityMar 23 05:02
roy_on_tedwhen they're above capacity, soon, it'll be like Spain and ItalyMar 23 05:02
roy_on_tedpeople without beds or  without ventilators to help them breathe when their lungs fight t he parasiteMar 23 05:03
roy_on_tedand this is when it's a massacreMar 23 05:03
roy_on_tedthose plastic coffins of FEMA better be 'on tap'Mar 23 05:03
roy_on_tedI read yesterday that US prisons start having covid19 spread in themMar 23 05:03
roy_on_tedprobably brought in by the guardsMar 23 05:03
roy_on_tedwho would be as reckless as they care about the prisonersMar 23 05:04
roy_on_tedhttps://www.nextplatform.com/2020/03/18/ceph-gets-fit-and-finish-for-enterprise-storage/Mar 23 05:07
roy_on_tedoopsMar 23 05:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Ceph Gets Fit And Finish For Enterprise StorageMar 23 05:07
roy_on_ted“The flu kills less than 1% of infected people who are over age 65. By comparison, in China, COVID-19 killed 8% of those infected who were 70-79 and almost 15% of those infected who were age 80 or older. That’s a staggering difference.” https://www.propublica.org/article/this-coronavirus-is-unlike-anything-in-our-lifetime-and-we-have-to-stop-comparing-it-to-the-fluMar 23 05:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | This Coronavirus Is Unlike Anything in Our Lifetime, and We Have to Stop Comparing It to the Flu — ProPublicaMar 23 05:07
roy_on_tedThe latter is what I meant to pasteMar 23 05:07
DaemonFC[m]roy_on_ted: It's a lot worse here than it looks.Mar 23 05:13
DaemonFC[m]They won't test a lot of people so they just turn them away and say maybe it's the flu.Mar 23 05:13
DaemonFC[m]You don't find out it's COVID-19 until they're dead.Mar 23 05:13
roy_on_tednoMar 23 05:13
roy_on_tedthey don't test the dead, eitherMar 23 05:13
roy_on_tedso they don't countMar 23 05:13
roy_on_tedwith limited kits it's better to test those still aliveMar 23 05:14
roy_on_tedesp. where there's scarcityMar 23 05:14
roy_on_teddays ago in Duterte-land they had only tested 1200 peopleMar 23 05:14
roy_on_ted300+ tested positiveMar 23 05:14
roy_on_tedthat's a quarterMar 23 05:14
roy_on_tedso you can only imagine how many people out there already have it 'incubating' in themMar 23 05:14
roy_on_tedto show up in 15 days in more than mild symptomsMar 23 05:14
roy_on_tedIIRC, the US would also let industry charge for these testsMar 23 05:15
roy_on_tedsome cannot afford itMar 23 05:15
roy_on_tedand even if they have it, they'd rather not know/find outMar 23 05:15
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roy_on_ted" https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1241730264247697408Mar 23 05:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: When workers are laid off, they lose their employer-provided health insurance. That is why we need a universal, si… https://t.co/EXNuj5QIETMar 23 05:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: When workers are laid off, they lose their employer-provided health insurance. That is why we need a universal, si… https://t.co/EXNuj5QIETMar 23 05:19
roy_on_tedhttps://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1241479517035782145 Mar 23 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: $34,927.43. That is the medical bill an uninsured patient got for being tested and treated for the coronavirus. T… https://t.co/XEZEJzk8VVMar 23 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: $34,927.43. That is the medical bill an uninsured patient got for being tested and treated for the coronavirus. T… https://t.co/XEZEJzk8VVMar 23 05:20
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kingoffranceroy_on_ted, well, they say prisons are letting ppl out to avoid spread, i dunno if that is good or bad, just how many have jobs lined up/etc. ?  (im not "judging" anyone, just saying another variable to current things)Mar 23 05:26
kingoffrancewill that mean more unemployed or not, i dunnoMar 23 05:26
roy_on_tedmaybe it's about timeMar 23 05:33
roy_on_tedthe economy as it is made not much sense for a whileMar 23 05:33
roy_on_tedwith many things automated working hours needed to be shortenedMar 23 05:33
roy_on_tedand people left to do "their thing"Mar 23 05:33
roy_on_tedbut the oligarchy wants everyone working hard for them and buying lots of crapMar 23 05:33
roy_on_tedthe circulation makes them richer and thus more politically powerfulMar 23 05:34
DaemonFC[m]roy_on_ted: I hear that Duterte cut off HIV meds to people.Mar 23 05:37
DaemonFC[m]roy_on_ted: I figure that this will definitely kill enough old people that "nursing" is not in short supply for a while.Mar 23 05:38
DaemonFC[m]Because mot of the shortage was a growing elderly population that is now starting to be carpet bombed by this virus.Mar 23 05:39
roy_on_tedhe is among themMar 23 05:47
roy_on_tedhe has health issuesMar 23 05:47
roy_on_tedand he takes many drugsMar 23 05:47
oiaohmroy_on_ted: really Australian test numbers on covid-19 is under 2 percent of those presenting symtoms that could be covid-19 in fact have it in Australia.Mar 23 05:52
oiaohmSo a 1/4 positive would be way higher than expected.Mar 23 05:53
schestowitz__> Maybe we need a section about disinformation?  There's Iran's andMar 23 05:54
schestowitz__> China's statements.Mar 23 05:54
schestowitz__I use the astroturfing section for media lies and disinfoMar 23 05:54
schestowitz__> There is also the World Health Organization's indirect spread ofMar 23 05:55
schestowitz__> disinformation.  The WHO is promoting use of social control media andMar 23 05:55
schestowitz__> lending credibility to the platforms which *are* seen by the generalMar 23 05:55
schestowitz__> population as publishers with editorial control.  Then there is theMar 23 05:55
schestowitz__> "algorithmic" ranking of messages by content.  Thus their bad choiceMar 23 05:55
schestowitz__> helps the spread of disinformation.Mar 23 05:55
schestowitz__I am guilty of still sending copies of my posts there :/Mar 23 05:55
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: It's mostly going off like an atomic bomb on Trump's base.Mar 23 06:03
DaemonFC[m]April and May will be horrible, but they won't be joining us to fuck up the country politically again.Mar 23 06:04
oiaohmroy_on_ted: https://www.health.gov.au/news/australian-health-protection-principal-committee-ahppc-coronavirus-covid-19-statement-on-22-march-2020  Its not a quater of USA test postive.Mar 23 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.health.gov.au | Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC) coronavirus (COVID-19) statement on 22 March 2020 | Australian Government Department of HealthMar 23 06:09
oiaohmroy_on_ted: USA has been running 8.3% percent postive with less people tested than Australia.Mar 23 06:12
DaemonFC[m]I'm guessing 4 million dead by April 31.Mar 23 06:43
DaemonFC[m]Every 3 days the death toll seems to double.Mar 23 06:44
oiaohmChina death toll has basically stopped.Mar 23 06:48
oiaohmAustralia death toll at the first 1000 is lower than most other countries when they hit the first 1000.Mar 23 06:49
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: by the way there are not 31 days in April.Mar 23 06:53
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DaemonFC[m]Errr, 30 I meant.Mar 23 06:58
DaemonFC[m]China is lying.Mar 23 06:58
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roy_on_tedTHe government is usually lyingMar 23 08:26
roy_on_tedand silencing competing stories where possibleMar 23 08:27
roy_on_tedor scaring proactively those who might challenge the official numbersMar 23 08:27
XRevan86Well, #socialdistancing also discourages suicide bombersMar 23 09:05
XRevan86Wait, what? %) Why? %)Mar 23 09:05
XRevan86* >Mar 23 09:06
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't think anyone who wants to kill oneself and others would be discouraged by a prospect of being infected and infecting others %).Mar 23 09:07
roy_on_tednoMar 23 09:08
roy_on_tedI mean no large crowdsMar 23 09:08
roy_on_tedor public transportMar 23 09:08
roy_on_tedgatheringsMar 23 09:08
XRevan86Oh, right, that makes sense…Mar 23 09:09
roy_on_tednotice the context of the remark, when she was in Manchester there was a bombing against her audienceMar 23 09:09
roy_on_tedeven mass stabbing would be harderMar 23 09:09
roy_on_tedas you can, at best, walk into homes in turn or target food shoppers, where there are already many security personnelMar 23 09:09
oiaohmroy_on_ted: if you use Port Arthur, Tasmania population density as a min for a mass shooting there are still a lot of areas even with social distancing  that are well above that density its simple to forget that the killing there was not a high density area. Mar 23 09:42
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MinceRhttps://www.hrw.org/news/2020/03/23/hungarys-orban-uses-pandemic-seize-unlimited-powerMar 23 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hrw.org | Hungary’s Orban Uses Pandemic to Seize Unlimited Power | Human Rights WatchMar 23 14:41
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CrystalMathMinceR: let's move to MexicoMar 23 14:48
MinceRwhat is it like?Mar 23 14:49
CrystalMathimmensely beautiful and wildMar 23 14:49
CrystalMatheverywhere you look, you see ad-hoc constructed housesMar 23 14:50
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MinceRhow much does the government leave the people alone?Mar 23 14:50
CrystalMathi am researching that nowMar 23 14:50
CrystalMathit really depends on the stateMar 23 14:51
CrystalMaththat's certainMar 23 14:51
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CrystalMathMinceR: in some states the government really doesn't matter as it's ruled either by the cartel, or sometimes zapatista insurgentsMar 23 14:53
CrystalMaththey have their own websites :PMar 23 14:53
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CrystalMathMinceR: i'm guessing you don't like what you heard so far about Mexico :PMar 23 14:57
CrystalMathMinceR: i think the government doesn't come for you much, but there are risks of being attacked outside the law, from 3 different sidesMar 23 14:59
MinceRyeah, my next question would have been how much do the ruling criminal organizations (other than the state) leave the people aloneMar 23 15:00
CrystalMathMinceR: like for example, legally there is free speech, but if you say something one of the three sides doesn't like, you get shotMar 23 15:00
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MinceRyeah, that doesn't make mexico sound attractiveMar 23 15:00
MinceRunless i had my own army, which i don'tMar 23 15:00
MinceRand if i had my own army, i could just make hungary more hospitableMar 23 15:00
CrystalMathyou can join zapatistas, or the sinaloa cartel :PMar 23 15:01
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MinceRi'm sure there are strings attachedMar 23 15:01
CrystalMathMinceR: but what i'm thinking isMar 23 15:12
CrystalMathwhile the government is busy fighting those twoMar 23 15:12
CrystalMaththey have very little time left to mess with ordinary citizensMar 23 15:13
CrystalMathyou can be "invisible" thereMar 23 15:13
MinceRit would be nice to find a spot on this cursed dirty ball of iron where things are done properlyMar 23 15:13
CrystalMathidk, i've had enough of "proper"Mar 23 15:13
CrystalMathdemocracy will always lead to fascismMar 23 15:13
CrystalMathi don't want a democracy, i want chaosMar 23 15:13
MinceR:>Mar 23 15:13
CrystalMathand i think Mexico has a good brand of chaosMar 23 15:13
MinceRmexico is at least nominally a democracyMar 23 15:13
CrystalMathwell in the areas the federal government controls, yes :PMar 23 15:14
CrystalMathi have never heard of the sinaloa cartel doing a voteMar 23 15:14
CrystalMaththe zapatistas vote, probablyMar 23 15:14
CrystalMathand control actual territoryMar 23 15:14
CrystalMathit's a frozen conflictMar 23 15:15
CrystalMaththey have a state within a state, which is unrecognized but de facto controlled by EZLNMar 23 15:15
CrystalMathMinceR: but what i mean is, last year, Mexico arrested El Chapo's son, and the cartel responded by capturing another townMar 23 15:15
CrystalMaththen the government SURRENDERED and let the son goMar 23 15:15
CrystalMathsee what i mean by, "no time to mess with ordinary people"?Mar 23 15:16
MinceR:>Mar 23 15:16
MinceRcollateral damage can still easily kill the ordinary people thoughMar 23 15:17
CrystalMathyep, i believe thousands were shotMar 23 15:17
CrystalMathduring the captureMar 23 15:17
CrystalMathyou just need to stay away from Sinaloa, basicallyMar 23 15:17
MinceRi'm doing that :>Mar 23 15:18
CrystalMaththe surrounding states are not that great eitherMar 23 15:18
CrystalMathlots of bullet holesMar 23 15:18
MinceRit's easy to find where to stay away fromMar 23 15:18
MinceRless easy to find somewhere to live that can actually sustain human lifeMar 23 15:18
MinceR(enough oxygen in the atmosphere and stuff like that)Mar 23 15:19
CrystalMaththe places where it's difficult could be more libertarianMar 23 15:19
CrystalMathwhere there is no time nor place for organizationMar 23 15:19
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CrystalMathMinceR: honestly, if freedom is more important than life, then i don't see the problem in living in dangerous crime areasMar 23 15:22
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CrystalMathMinceR: maybe i'm a bit more agorist than youMar 23 15:24
CrystalMathi have agorist and anarcho-primitivist tendenciesMar 23 15:24
CrystalMathwhich is why when i see ad-hoc built houses, i feel a happiness insideMar 23 15:24
MinceR:)Mar 23 15:25
MinceRwell, living in dangerous crime areas could be fine, but it needs more resources than what i haveMar 23 15:25
CrystalMathwe could go to the USMar 23 15:30
CrystalMathand give libertarians another vote or twoMar 23 15:30
MinceRthe US is currently severely fuckedMar 23 15:30
CrystalMathyepMar 23 15:30
CrystalMathit seems badMar 23 15:31
CrystalMaththeir constitution is being attacked from all sidesMar 23 15:31
CrystalMathand all those crazy actsMar 23 15:31
CrystalMaththat apply to american citizensMar 23 15:31
MinceRthey have a two-party system and the parties are nearly identicalMar 23 15:31
MinceRand authoritarianMar 23 15:31
CrystalMathmakes it seem like getting US citizenship is voluntarily servitudeMar 23 15:31
CrystalMath*voluntaryMar 23 15:31
CrystalMaththe average mexican is more free than the average US americanMar 23 15:32
CrystalMathi would sooner pick Mexico than even Costa Rica / PanamaMar 23 15:32
CrystalMathwhy? because Mexico, being bigger, has a harder time controlling everyoneMar 23 15:33
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CrystalMathPanama may have permissive laws now, but if it wanted to become communist or fascist, it could effectively imprison all its citizens, and this has happened in the past (remember Noriega)Mar 23 15:33
MinceRi don't know much about NoriegaMar 23 15:33
CrystalMatha military junta in PanamaMar 23 15:34
CrystalMaththe leader of which was Manual NoriegaMar 23 15:34
CrystalMathso yeah i think there's more freedom in countries that are big, as if they "spread thin"Mar 23 15:34
CrystalMathfor example Russia... with all its laws you would think it's quite an authoritarian dictatorshipMar 23 15:35
MinceRand it isMar 23 15:35
CrystalMathbut in fact there are places there so remote you never see a government officialMar 23 15:35
MinceRyeah, as long as you keep your head downMar 23 15:35
MinceRif you don't, you might find some polonium in your teaMar 23 15:35
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/r1xvoe.jpgMar 23 15:36
MinceRand if you pay your taxes, you feed putlerMar 23 15:36
CrystalMathyeah i think the american continent is the best place to look for freedomMar 23 15:38
CrystalMathbut canada and the US are not the placesMar 23 15:38
CrystalMathso, central and south americaMar 23 15:38
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DaemonFC[m]> MinceR: i think the government doesn't come for you much, but there are risks of being attacked outside the law, from 3 different sidesMar 23 15:49
DaemonFC[m]That's putting it mildly. Mexico City is fairly lawless itself. If people with machine guns want you they'll just kidnap you right out of your car in broad daylight with the police watching them do it.Mar 23 15:49
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: US has over 40k cases confirmed (Italy at 59k)Mar 23 15:49
DaemonFC[m]The cops are being paid and wouldn't risk confronting these guys even if they weren't.Mar 23 15:49
DaemonFC[m]Johns Hopkins seems to be glitching.Mar 23 15:50
schestowitz__give it 2-3 days US will be number 2, number 1 (past China) next weekMar 23 15:50
DaemonFC[m]Where's the 40,000 thing at?Mar 23 15:50
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: this is cleanerMar 23 15:50
schestowitz__https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countriesMar 23 15:50
schestowitz__and easier to navigateMar 23 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Coronavirus Update (Live): 358,803 Cases and 15,433 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - WorldometerMar 23 15:50
schestowitz__updates more often, tooMar 23 15:50
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: It's creepy here in Waukegan.Mar 23 15:50
DaemonFC[m]About 20-30% of the normal amount of people out. Empty buses rolling by.Mar 23 15:50
schestowitz__let's see how long before Katrina 3.0Mar 23 15:50
schestowitz__2.0 was years agoMar 23 15:50
schestowitz__people will get their guns and racial/racist militias out in the street for "proection"Mar 23 15:51
schestowitz__Agtent Orange will side with "very fine people"Mar 23 15:51
schestowitz__maybe he'll even hire them to enforce martial law and give them more ammo like RPGsMar 23 15:51
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CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: that's it, i'm moving to Mexico!Mar 23 16:01
psydroidAntarctica is the place to be!Mar 23 16:04
MinceR23 155004 < schestowitz__> give it 2-3 days US will be number 2, number 1 (past China) next weekMar 23 16:05
MinceRUSA number 1!Mar 23 16:05
MinceRUSA! USA! USA! USA!Mar 23 16:05
DaemonFC[m]Well, the lying Chinese.....Mar 23 16:05
DaemonFC[m]There's no way they have this thing figured out when literally nobody else on Earth does.Mar 23 16:05
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scientesCrystalMath, yes, we U.S. citizens are all in a load of shitMar 23 16:09
roy_on_tedwe're getting loads of COVID-19 data soonMar 23 16:09
roy_on_tedI'd be among the sysadminsMar 23 16:09
scientesCrystalMath, have to been to Costa Rica/Panama?Mar 23 16:09
CrystalMathscientes: noMar 23 16:11
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CrystalMathscientes: they seem nice, but i don't trust them to be/remain lawlessMar 23 16:12
scientesyou shouldn't make judgement like that when you haven't been thereMar 23 16:13
scientesthey are human tooMar 23 16:13
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17523533Mar 23 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Potentially tasteless joke: #trump waited months before doing something about #covid19 as that would guarantee USA (number one!) gets a head start with infection to become NUMBER ONE by month's end (# of cases)Mar 23 16:13
CrystalMathscientes: umm... i really didn't mean that is objectively badMar 23 16:13
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17523536Mar 23 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In the US having tons of #patients with #covid19 means loads and loads of money. For particular corporations. You can making killing, both literally and metaphorically. A million patients (customers), $40,000 each = 40 billion bucks!Mar 23 16:13
scientesCrystalMath, also Costa Rica and Panama have VERY differen't cultures, interestinglyMar 23 16:13
CrystalMathscientes: some people like lawsMar 23 16:13
CrystalMathscientes: i don'tMar 23 16:13
scientesthen you should go to PanamaMar 23 16:13
scientesPanama is pretty lawlessMar 23 16:14
CrystalMathmore so or less than Mexico?Mar 23 16:14
MinceR23 161308 < scientes> they are human tooMar 23 16:14
*scientes hasn't been to MexicoMar 23 16:14
MinceRand therein lies the problemMar 23 16:14
scientesMinceR, too trueMar 23 16:14
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scientesI went to Colòn however, and (I believe) it has problem similar to what I hear about in South AfricaMar 23 16:17
scienteswith spoiled self-entitled mobsMar 23 16:17
scienteshttps://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Georgian/HostandGuest.phpMar 23 16:22
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scientesHe graduated in Mathematics...He has translated into English from Latin, Ancient Greek, Classical Chinese and the European languages.Mar 23 16:35
scientesFuck me.Mar 23 16:35
scientesHow many languages do I know?Mar 23 16:35
scientesHis most extensive works are complete translations of Ovid's Metamorphoses and Dante's Divine ComedyMar 23 16:36
scientesHow can one person do expert translations from multiple languages?Mar 23 16:36
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psydroidIncredible amounts of talent and dedicationMar 23 16:43
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psydroidAlthough I speak most of those languages too and I have copies of the Metamophones and the Divine Comedy in Latin and Italian respectively, I don't think I would be able to pull off such extensive translations Mar 23 16:59
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psydroidMetamorphoses* lolMar 23 17:05
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/timpritlove/status/1242014810402947072Mar 23 17:28
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scientesMinceR, that is funnyMar 23 18:05
scientespsydroid, I guess I just never got this language thingMar 23 18:06
scientesI mean, English is a horribly painful lanuageMar 23 18:07
scienteswith all the spelling stupiditiesMar 23 18:07
scientesI tried to do Tindr in georgia, but the girls only want to speak georgianMar 23 18:07
psydroidscientes, I think it's not a big thing in the US in general, as you are surrounded by people who speak English and maybe Spanish 99% of the time. I see the same thing in much of South America, you can get by speaking Spanish and/or Brazilian Portuguese for most of your working life.Mar 23 18:08
scientesyes, that is south americaMar 23 18:09
XRevan86scientes: Метаморфозы :)Mar 23 18:09
scientesi was kinda blown away by all the languagesMar 23 18:09
scientesI have a chocolate bar here (Nestlè) that has 6 languages on itMar 23 18:10
scientesand not EnglishMar 23 18:10
scientesor German for that matterMar 23 18:10
XRevan86It's a Latin word that's been loaned into many languages, the only thing particular about English is that it also loaned Latin's plural ending.Mar 23 18:10
scientesXRevan86, yes, its a ipcularity to be learnedMar 23 18:10
scientessis/sesMar 23 18:10
XRevan86Latin plural endings are so fun English even invented one out of thin air :)Mar 23 18:11
XRevan86for the word octopusMar 23 18:11
psydroidwhen I first went to Poland and barely spoke Polish, I read the Romanian descriptions because that's what I understood bestMar 23 18:11
scientesXRevan86, but isn't that just English's inflected past?Mar 23 18:12
XRevan86scientes: I'm talking about "octopi"Mar 23 18:12
scientesoh yeahMar 23 18:12
scientesmy god the animal plurals are horribleMar 23 18:13
XRevan86"octopuses" is more correct than "octopi"Mar 23 18:13
MinceRoctopodesMar 23 18:13
scientesyeah but what about the groups of animalsMar 23 18:13
XRevan86MinceR: Right.Mar 23 18:13
scientesflock of geeseMar 23 18:13
MinceRa business of weaselsMar 23 18:13
XRevan86psydroid: Polish is such a gem it's easier for me to understand verbally than as a scriptMar 23 18:13
psydroidthey made that same mistake in Romance languages tooMar 23 18:14
XRevan86Audible Polish that isMar 23 18:14
XRevan86psydroid: Well, in their it's at least native, I guess.Mar 23 18:14
MinceRGrzegorz BrzęczyszczykiewiczMar 23 18:14
psydroidfor example body is "corpus" and the the genitive singular is "corporis" and the plural nominative "corpora"Mar 23 18:15
psydroidso this could never have become "corpi" in the plural, but that's what it is in ItalianMar 23 18:15
XRevan86psydroid: Italian didn't loan itMar 23 18:16
psydroidof course notMar 23 18:16
XRevan86I don't know it so I can't even guess how they've got there.Mar 23 18:16
psydroidthe thing is that you have multiple declensions in LatinMar 23 18:18
XRevan86Wiktionary doesn't show any for Italian. Is it inflective?Mar 23 18:18
psydroidservus, servi (nom, gen) and corpus, corporis (nom, gen) and virus, virusMar 23 18:19
psydroid(nom, gen)Mar 23 18:19
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psydreadok, switching to my tablet for nowMar 23 18:21
XRevan86Italian doesn't…Mar 23 18:21
XRevan86That explains it.Mar 23 18:21
Hail_Spacecakelate vulgar latin speakers in the italian peninsula were perfectly entitled to reanalyze CORPVS as being a 2nd declension masculine nounMar 23 18:21
Hail_Spacecakeinstead of the stem-changing 3rd declension noun it was in clasical latinMar 23 18:22
XRevan86"Vedo un cane, il cane mi vede."Mar 23 18:22
psydreadhttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/corpoMar 23 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | corpo - WiktionaryMar 23 18:22
MinceR"Mia clementia denor esto."Mar 23 18:23
psydreadyes, most modern Romance language have lost all declensionsMar 23 18:23
scientesuggggh, I can't even read the news cause its all FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR these daysMar 23 18:23
scientesannoyingMar 23 18:23
XRevan86Humanity, 2020: https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/154/775/288.pngMar 23 18:25
psydreadI just switch off the news after a whileMar 23 18:25
MinceRit would be more productive to switch off humanityMar 23 18:26
scientesI just got in the habit of getting news en Español.Mar 23 18:27
scientesotherwise I don't look at the newsMar 23 18:27
scientesbut now even that is unbearable, cause the news is so montonousMar 23 18:27
scientesand also depressing as they all civil rights are disappearing really fastMar 23 18:27
scientesor I don't like that term "rights"----all ability to express one's humanityMar 23 18:28
MinceRThis sentence is in Spanish while you're not lookingMar 23 18:30
scientesEstè frase es en Español cuando tu no vea.Mar 23 18:31
scientesI stalled on the Russian---I just can't convince my brain that it is worth learningMar 23 18:32
scientesso my brain turns offMar 23 18:32
XRevan86Tia frazo estas en la Hispana dum vi ne rigardas.Mar 23 18:33
scientesEn verdad, "Hispana"?Mar 23 18:34
scientesNo es "Iberica" o similarmente?Mar 23 18:34
scientesahh yes, it was the province of HispanaMar 23 18:34
XRevan86scientes: Kio?Mar 23 18:35
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania#/media/File:Conquista_Hispania.svgMar 23 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Hispania - WikipediaMar 23 18:35
scientesBarcelonaMar 23 18:35
scientesimportant silver mines thereMar 23 18:36
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XRevan86scientes: Kiam vi rigardis tio estis en Esperanto, kie "la hispana" signifas "[the] Spanish [language]".Mar 23 18:37
psydroidHispania in Latin, therefore it became EspañaMar 23 18:40
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebro#/media/File:Valle_del_Ebro.jpgMar 23 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ebro - WikipediaMar 23 18:41
scientesahhhhhhhh Ebro-->IberianMar 23 18:41
psydroidoh, so Russian is not that useful in Georgia?Mar 23 18:41
scientesnah, I hear it every dayMar 23 18:41
scientesmuch more common than EnglishMar 23 18:42
psydroidso it should be an excellent environment to improve yours passivelyMar 23 18:43
psydroidmaybe that's all that you should doMar 23 18:43
psydroidI know that's what I did in PolandMar 23 18:43
psydroidmy managers and colleagues just spoke Polish all the timeMar 23 18:44
scientesyeah I was learning when I was in the hostelMar 23 18:44
scientesmaybe I need to go back to a hostelMar 23 18:44
scientesI need a more social environmentMar 23 18:44
XRevan86Went to see etymology for Испания (Ispania), now I know that at first Spain was referred to as "Gishpania" (no idea about whether that G would've been fricative)Mar 23 18:44
scientesXRevan86, yeah, but the Ebro basin is only a small part of the pinsulaMar 23 18:45
scientes"Cuenca"Mar 23 18:45
XRevan86I mean in Russian. "Gishpania"'s origins are known: Polish. But that doesn't explain where the contemporary word came from…Mar 23 18:46
scientesahh, in RussianMar 23 18:46
scientesI was like "Why would they let Poland name them?"Mar 23 18:47
scientesGeorgia also has an IberiaMar 23 18:47
XRevan86I guess it's from Greek.Mar 23 18:47
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Iberia_(antiquity)Mar 23 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Kingdom of Iberia (antiquity) - WikipediaMar 23 18:48
scientesXRevan86, yes again greekMar 23 18:48
scientesknown in Georgian as Kartli (which is the same name of the script)Mar 23 18:48
XRevan86scientes: Apparently in Ancient Greek it would have a h at the start.Mar 23 18:49
XRevan86so Hiberia, and in modern I guess it's IviriaMar 23 18:49
zoobabhttp://blog.ffii.org/eu-software-patent-court-stopped-by-constitutional-court-patent-industry-will-try-again/Mar 23 19:48
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MinceR(audio:important) https://coub.com/view/2azn0vMar 23 19:54
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scienteszoobab, because that is totally an "industry"Mar 23 20:08
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