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XFaCE | schestowitz: thoughts on those potential gated foundation leaks? | Apr 23 00:42 |
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XFaCE | Oh MinceR , you were already discussing it | Apr 23 00:44 |
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dabblerdude | Hey everyone, is it true that IOBit software is malware? | Apr 23 02:03 |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Release of Mesa and Mesa's DRM Library Now Has Proper FreeBSD Support Upstream http://tuxmachines.org/node/136718 [https://pleroma.site/objects/54b33fdc-6075-4832-a096-5469f1fc416f] | Apr 23 03:45 | |
schestowitz | [21:09] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- stillnessinthestorm.com | BREAKING: MASSIVE HACK of Coronavirus Related Organizations: WHO, NIH, Wuhan Lab, And Gates Foundation - Stillness in the Storm | Apr 23 03:47 |
schestowitz | I am waiting for more credible sites to explain what's there | Apr 23 03:47 |
schestowitz | [21:28] <zoobab> — USA HACKERS (@usahackers) April 21, 2020 | Apr 23 03:48 |
schestowitz | That could be anyone, and that does not tell us (yet) what the evidence shows and why | Apr 23 03:48 |
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schestowitz | They also make loaded statements suggesting a link to some dodgy groups of cranks online... we ought not associate with these in any way | Apr 23 03:49 |
schestowitz | zoobab: OK, much of what's said and published looks dodgy, for several reasons | Apr 23 03:53 |
schestowitz | first, they say they WILL leak x and y | Apr 23 03:53 |
schestowitz | but apart from that it is mostly insinuation | Apr 23 03:53 |
schestowitz | they also connect covid to pedophilia and thunberg | Apr 23 03:53 |
schestowitz | as if to imply the whole "World government," or "climate change" thing is connected | Apr 23 03:54 |
schestowitz | Twitter isn't the right platform for these things anyway.... they're social control media | Apr 23 03:54 |
schestowitz | It would be nice to see internal comms from senior people at Scam and Melinda Foundation saying something self-incriminating | Apr 23 03:54 |
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schestowitz | with source material to prove they said it | Apr 23 03:55 |
schestowitz | it seems like lots of insinuations at the moment, the above links say they got cracked, but they don't actually present anything in a way that shows a smoking gun... still looking... | Apr 23 03:55 |
schestowitz | this site is a bit -- just a bit -- less dodgy | Apr 23 03:58 |
schestowitz | https://www.zerohedge.com/health/email-addresses-and-passwords-who-nih-wuhan-lab-and-gates-foundation-dumped-4chan | Apr 23 03:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Email Addresses And Passwords From WHO, NIH, Wuhan Lab, And Gates Foundation Dumped On 4chan | Zero Hedge | Apr 23 03:58 | |
schestowitz | I have seen nothing of >substance< coming out of this https://www.zerohedge.com/health/email-addresses-and-passwords-who-nih-wuhan-lab-and-gates-foundation-dumped-4chan | Apr 23 04:03 |
schestowitz | seems like a waste of time, so far... | Apr 23 04:03 |
schestowitz | unless they release something | Apr 23 04:04 |
schestowitz | and that something is both verifiable and damning | Apr 23 04:04 |
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schestowitz | at the moment it's nothing but "HAHA! Gates hacked. LOLs" | Apr 23 04:04 |
schestowitz | and then a bunch if conspiracy BS thrown around, based on nothing which wasn't known already, like Gates influence inside WHO | Apr 23 04:05 |
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schestowitz | hmmm.... | Apr 23 04:17 |
schestowitz | Can you folks do me a favour? | Apr 23 04:17 |
schestowitz | I think my access to the site's hypervisot and VMs has high packet loss | Apr 23 04:17 |
schestowitz | not sure what's to blame, DC, my ISP... something else? | Apr 23 04:18 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Apr 23 04:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Apr 23 04:18 | |
schestowitz | Can everyone load up this page OK? | Apr 23 04:18 |
schestowitz | And without delays? | Apr 23 04:18 |
schestowitz | At my end I get oddness | Apr 23 04:18 |
schestowitz | and it seems not limited to just techrights | Apr 23 04:18 |
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insmodppa | schestowitz: Works fine on my end, no problems whatsoever. | Apr 23 04:19 |
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schestowitz | probably switching at my isp or somewhere between | Apr 23 04:26 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Works fine for me. | Apr 23 04:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Vivaldi 3.0 is out with a new built-in ad blocker. | Apr 23 04:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Built on Chromiums 81. | Apr 23 04:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | I probably would use Chromium except Fedora doesn't take good care of it. | Apr 23 04:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | At one point 137 security vulnerabilities had backed up since their last version bump. | Apr 23 04:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's just not okay. | Apr 23 04:45 |
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schestowitz | hmmm... with this packeting issue it'll be hard to compose articles | Apr 23 05:26 |
schestowitz | sometimes I cannot reach the server at all | Apr 23 05:26 |
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scientes | > [Boeing] said it was putting about 27,000 people back to work this week building passenger jets at its Seattle-area plants, | Apr 23 08:27 |
scientes | while basically all air travel is shut down | Apr 23 08:27 |
scientes | yeah, nice boondoggle you got going there... | Apr 23 08:28 |
schestowitz | shows that the concept of "job creators" is meaningless | Apr 23 09:21 |
schestowitz | sometimes tax-funded apparatus with an oligarch at the top pocketing taxpayers' money | Apr 23 09:22 |
schestowitz | to 'employ' people doing a bunch of unnecessary nonsense | Apr 23 09:22 |
schestowitz | nothing of essence | Apr 23 09:22 |
schestowitz | "what do you do for a living"? | Apr 23 09:22 |
schestowitz | "I'm a telemarketer" | Apr 23 09:22 |
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MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/al3i8n.jpg | Apr 23 11:28 |
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schestowitz | lol | Apr 23 11:32 |
schestowitz | nice one | Apr 23 11:32 |
schestowitz | another charlatan like billy goat gates | Apr 23 11:33 |
schestowitz | pretending to be a genius... based on little of substance... just subservient media | Apr 23 11:33 |
scientes | schestowitz, better than a credit card debt collector | Apr 23 11:36 |
scientes | https://web.archive.org/web/20200414185426/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52278825 | Apr 23 11:37 |
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scientes | fear porn^ | Apr 23 11:37 |
scientes | those flash-built hospitals are completely empty https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/23/the-seven-step-path-from-pandemic-to-totalitarianism/ | Apr 23 11:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-off-guardian.org | The Seven-Step Path from Pandemic to Totalitarianism – OffGuardian | Apr 23 11:39 | |
scientes | https://blogs.imf.org/2019/02/05/cashing-in-how-to-make-negative-interest-rates-work/ | Apr 23 11:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.imf.org | Cashing In: How to Make Negative Interest Rates Work – IMF Blog | Apr 23 11:41 | |
scientes | more like "Society for asking stupid questions." | Apr 23 11:41 |
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scientes | like "Are negative interest rates a good thing?" | Apr 23 11:41 |
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scientes | https://pics.me.me/service-for-asking-stupid-questions-excuse-me-is-this-the-11337874.png | Apr 23 11:44 |
scientes | wut, its changed | Apr 23 11:44 |
scientes | http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Society.jpg | Apr 23 11:44 |
MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/iswMkhj.jpg | Apr 23 11:47 |
schestowitz | scientes: I deleted off-gaurdian | Apr 23 11:58 |
schestowitz | because they were too often off course | Apr 23 11:58 |
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scientes | schestowitz, hmmmmm, they don't seem deleted for me | Apr 23 12:00 |
schestowitz | to me it is | Apr 23 12:00 |
schestowitz | I disregard them | Apr 23 12:00 |
schestowitz | for a while I read them | Apr 23 12:00 |
schestowitz | and then it was full of BS | Apr 23 12:00 |
schestowitz | they go for opposite of mainstream narrative -- something even opposite of true stories | Apr 23 12:00 |
schestowitz | I'd be able to give some examples, but I forgot most of them by now... it was a year ago | Apr 23 12:01 |
schestowitz | also, re the above | Apr 23 12:01 |
schestowitz | if health ministries in like 200 nations treat it as they do then | Apr 23 12:02 |
schestowitz | 1) either it's a real risk | Apr 23 12:02 |
schestowitz | or 2) they're all 'in cahoots' | Apr 23 12:02 |
ICONOCLASTRADIO | HOW MUCH LONGER ON THAT RICK JONES POLICE REPORT | Apr 23 12:02 |
schestowitz | also, bear in mind we went into lock-down, so the impact and stress of hospitals if MILLIONS contracted the virus will never be known | Apr 23 12:02 |
schestowitz | hi ICONOCLASTRADIO | Apr 23 12:03 |
schestowitz | they postpone | Apr 23 12:03 |
ICONOCLASTRADIO | HI | Apr 23 12:03 |
schestowitz | and the virus I suppose gives them more excuses to give, even seemingly legit ones | Apr 23 12:03 |
ICONOCLASTRADIO | IT'S GOING ON YEARS NOW. | Apr 23 12:03 |
schestowitz | (not to say that's the cause of the virus... just that it can be exploited in a timely fashion) | Apr 23 12:03 |
schestowitz | ICONOCLASTRADIO: yes, but... | Apr 23 12:03 |
schestowitz | The Epstein stories were the trigger | Apr 23 12:03 |
schestowitz | in 2015 I dismissed that as likely a "rotten apple" in the mansion | Apr 23 12:04 |
ICONOCLASTRADIO | THERE IS NO MORE EXCUSE. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE ELSE THAT IS REQUESTING THE POLICE REPORT? | Apr 23 12:04 |
schestowitz | but now we know just how massive the police report is | Apr 23 12:04 |
scientes | <schestowitz> or 2) they're all 'in cahoots' | Apr 23 12:04 |
scientes | but they are | Apr 23 12:04 |
schestowitz | I know of two FOIA requests | Apr 23 12:04 |
MinceR | CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL | Apr 23 12:04 |
schestowitz | by all means if you're a US citizen, submit another | Apr 23 12:04 |
schestowitz | submit lots of them, to the point SPD feels like it's a PR/image crisis | Apr 23 12:05 |
schestowitz | scientes: they're not | Apr 23 12:05 |
schestowitz | WHO does not control them | Apr 23 12:05 |
schestowitz | it's more advisory than anything | Apr 23 12:05 |
schestowitz | Iceland isn't in EU | Apr 23 12:05 |
schestowitz | and yet it's testing loads of people and tackling the thing | Apr 23 12:05 |
MinceR | it's in the EEA and the EFTA though :( | Apr 23 12:05 |
schestowitz | the only other option is to let is roam freely, get to everything, then calculate what percent of people will perish and how many you have ICU beds for | Apr 23 12:06 |
scientes | schestowitz, you are a crazy man | Apr 23 12:07 |
scientes | you have swollowed the bullshit hook line and sinker | Apr 23 12:07 |
schestowitz | haha | Apr 23 12:08 |
schestowitz | good lick | Apr 23 12:08 |
schestowitz | *luck | Apr 23 12:08 |
schestowitz | don't lick the rails | Apr 23 12:08 |
MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/god-mode | Apr 23 12:17 |
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scientes | MinceR, hehehehehe | Apr 23 12:18 |
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MinceR | > There is a concerted effort by all levels of government and public health to very rapidly ramp up testing for viral RNA | Apr 23 12:39 |
MinceR | well, that's not happening in hungary :> | Apr 23 12:39 |
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scientes | https://www.rferl.org/a/rotten-potatoes-replace-school-lunches-for-some-russian-kids/30569853.html | Apr 23 12:48 |
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scientes | XRevan86, ^^the school are stealing the government money for school lunches | Apr 23 12:51 |
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scientes | https://gdb.rferl.org/903DE408-62AB-4F4C-A219-FC64ED9E1A7B_w2046_s.jpg | Apr 23 13:06 |
scientes | (cat) | Apr 23 13:06 |
MinceR | :3 | Apr 23 13:06 |
scientes | wow https://gdb.rferl.org/56AC3CB1-07E4-4AD9-8623-EDCA6EC466F2_w2046_s.jpg | Apr 23 13:08 |
scientes | Dubai | Apr 23 13:08 |
MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2017/08/12/81caebc310e06768.jpg | Apr 23 13:11 |
XRevan86 | scientes: "the school are stealing the government money for school lunches" – that's assuming much. | Apr 23 13:15 |
scientes | XRevan86, yes, but did they not get the money that was alloted? | Apr 23 13:16 |
scientes | so where is the money, because those lunches are obviously not worth that much | Apr 23 13:16 |
MinceR | maybe the government stole it :> | Apr 23 13:16 |
scientes | MinceR, that's what this guy was saying https://www.rferl.org/a/opera-singer-cheldiyev-arrested-for-initiating-anti-government-rallies-in-russia-s-north-ossetia/30567646.html | Apr 23 13:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rferl.org | Opera Singer Arrested For Initiating Anti-Government Rallies In Russia’s North Ossetia | Apr 23 13:17 | |
XRevan86 | scientes: That I don't know. But let's make a thought experiment: what would happen if the pupils complain on the school to the ministry? Would they even care? | Apr 23 13:17 |
scientes | XRevan86, exactly. It is a matter of "if they are not in a position to say anything, but why not pocked the money." | Apr 23 13:18 |
scientes | while when it actually is a school lunch, then the pupils are in a position to complain | Apr 23 13:18 |
scientes | (depending) | Apr 23 13:19 |
scientes | when I was in school it was the same food for like 8 years straight | Apr 23 13:19 |
scientes | rotating every 2 weeks | Apr 23 13:19 |
XRevan86 | scientes: My point is that if they whole chain doesn't care, why should I care where exactly in it the money got lost? | Apr 23 13:19 |
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scientes | well, the solution would be to transfer the money directly to the kids | Apr 23 13:19 |
scientes | and let them buy the food | Apr 23 13:20 |
scientes | they already pay parents who homeschool | Apr 23 13:20 |
MinceR | or to not take money away from people in the first place | Apr 23 13:20 |
XRevan86 | scientes: That's reasonable, yes. | Apr 23 13:20 |
scientes | MinceR, well, yeah, but as the IMF says ""Countries will need to ensure that policies taken in response to the crisis are not *perceived* as permanent and become entrenched and generate distortions—especially regarding targeted assistance to certain sectors. " | Apr 23 13:22 |
scientes | not the word "perceived" | Apr 23 13:22 |
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scientes | and the US State Dept. is telling me I need to take the next flight back to the US or be prepared to be abroad "indefinitely" | Apr 23 13:23 |
MinceR | clever | Apr 23 13:23 |
MinceR | again, orban doesn't care | Apr 23 13:24 |
MinceR | every change they've made is indefinite (i.e. permanent) | Apr 23 13:24 |
MinceR | of course none of this would really matter if humans didn't crave oppression | Apr 23 13:24 |
MinceR | we'd just execute a revolution, kill these authoritarian assholes and carry on with our lives | Apr 23 13:25 |
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MinceR | but instead humanity pulls the boot closer onto its collective face | Apr 23 13:25 |
MinceR | and there might be no escape for the few sane, civilized people stuck in this hell | Apr 23 13:25 |
scientes | that reminds me that I never watched Das Boot | Apr 23 13:28 |
MinceR | :> | Apr 23 13:28 |
scientes | MinceR, and then tries to get out of the boot through suicide | Apr 23 13:31 |
scientes | (or suicidal war) | Apr 23 13:31 |
MinceR | or suicidal pollution | Apr 23 13:31 |
scientes | that too | Apr 23 13:31 |
scientes | that's what the Davos guys are doing | Apr 23 13:32 |
scientes | their solution to water pollution is to manufacture tons of little plastic bottles | Apr 23 13:32 |
MinceR | EXTERMINATE! | Apr 23 13:32 |
MinceR | no, wait, that's Davros | Apr 23 13:32 |
scientes | in one of the few places with good enough water to manufacture said water bottles | Apr 23 13:32 |
scientes | (I'm not talking about the water in the bottles but the bottles themselves) | Apr 23 13:32 |
scientes | the solution to too much trash is also to manufactures tons of plastic garbage bags | Apr 23 13:33 |
scientes | https://www.amazon.com/Biodegradable-Garbage-Bags/s?k=Biodegradable+Garbage+Bags | Apr 23 13:33 |
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scientes | the solution to every problem is more plastic | Apr 23 13:34 |
MinceR | no, often the solution is more oppression or more humans | Apr 23 13:34 |
scientes | with plastic toys | Apr 23 13:34 |
scientes | https://www.amazon.com/s?k=toy+prison | Apr 23 13:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com : toy prison | Apr 23 13:36 | |
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scientes | and without one of these you can get a fine for illegal composting https://www.amazon.com/Exaco-AeroQuick-AQ187-Austrian-Compost/dp/B000VDP8N0/ | Apr 23 13:37 |
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scientes | https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx1GXRIK8LR24DI/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza | Apr 23 13:38 |
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scientes | Oh, the sense of humor on Amazon | Apr 23 13:38 |
MinceR | u got a loicence for composting m8? | Apr 23 13:39 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19102239 | Apr 23 13:42 |
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schestowitz | two-button binary choice | Apr 23 13:48 |
scientes | schestowitz, will this computer program stop? | Apr 23 13:54 |
scientes | 1) yes, 2) no | Apr 23 13:54 |
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MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/22/f68699514aaa13ae.mp4 | Apr 23 14:13 |
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MinceR | https://aphyr.com/posts/341-hexing-the-technical-interview | Apr 23 14:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aphyr.com | Hexing the technical interview | Apr 23 14:43 | |
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XRevan86 | https://znak.com/2020-04-21/glavnyy_hram_vooruzhennyh_sil_rf_ukrasili_vitrazhami_s_serpom_i_molotom noice | Apr 23 15:02 |
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XRevan86 | In the main church of the armed forces that is finishing construction under Moscow there is Hammer and Sickle on stained glass %). | Apr 23 15:05 |
MinceR | the church of stalin | Apr 23 15:06 |
MinceR | https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/01/15/putin-compares-communism-christianity-a60181 | Apr 23 15:07 |
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XRevan86 | MinceR: Christian communism? In my Putin? It's more likely than you think. | Apr 23 15:09 |
MinceR | :> | Apr 23 15:10 |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19102231 | Apr 23 15:14 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/27/cab6ea43777f8706.mp4 | Apr 23 15:39 |
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scientes | XRevan86, it isn't crazy because communism never means anyways, and whenever you try to define it people go "that wasn't communism" | Apr 23 15:45 |
scientes | *anything | Apr 23 15:45 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Try giving examples of capitalism to an anarcho-capitalist | Apr 23 15:46 |
scientes | maybe some day people will start saying "that wasn't capitalism" | Apr 23 15:46 |
XRevan86 | "that wasn't capitalism" will be the answer :P | Apr 23 15:46 |
XRevan86 | scientes: They literally already do. | Apr 23 15:46 |
scientes | really. I haven't met such people | Apr 23 15:46 |
XRevan86 | scientes: You just need the right crowd :) | Apr 23 15:46 |
scientes | I raelly like Henry George, and that is capitalism | Apr 23 15:47 |
XRevan86 | libertarians, ancaps, that sort of thing | Apr 23 15:47 |
MinceR | people won't say anything because they will be extinct | Apr 23 15:47 |
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scientes | the Chinese actually implement Adam Smith, while I meet German economics majors that have not | Apr 23 15:47 |
XRevan86 | To them every contemporary capitalism is tainted by state regulation. | Apr 23 15:47 |
MinceR | and people already don't agree on what communism, socialism or capitalism mean | Apr 23 15:47 |
scientes | XRevan86, that's why you need Henry George | Apr 23 15:48 |
MinceR | i thought Adam Smith's parents implemented Adam Smith | Apr 23 15:48 |
scientes | MinceR, heh | Apr 23 15:48 |
scientes | more like "used their implements" amirite? | Apr 23 15:48 |
MinceR | :> | Apr 23 15:48 |
MinceR | also, the alleged "anarcho-capitalists" i know are not anarchists, they're authoritarians | Apr 23 15:48 |
scientes | MinceR, true that | Apr 23 15:49 |
MinceR | they support neofascists and prefer monarchy to democracy | Apr 23 15:49 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: They are a curious bunch definitely. | Apr 23 15:49 |
MinceR | there's not enough support for anything that would be actually sane, civilized or free so such ideas don't even get to have names | Apr 23 15:49 |
XRevan86 | Anyway, "communism" does mean something, but comparing something real to it is complicated, as nothing's ever perfect. | Apr 23 15:51 |
MinceR | it is difficult to compare something real to something that does not exist | Apr 23 15:51 |
MinceR | it is even more difficult to compare something real to something that is not even defined consistently :> | Apr 23 15:51 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: True that. | Apr 23 15:51 |
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XRevan86 | One can talk about states that try to follow the communist school of thought, but there is a problem here too: there is more than one. | Apr 23 15:52 |
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MinceR | and you can go through school without learning much | Apr 23 15:52 |
scientes | XRevan86, actually, you can just read Das Capital | Apr 23 15:56 |
MinceR | if you can endure it for long | Apr 23 15:57 |
XRevan86 | scientes: And make my own conclusions | Apr 23 15:57 |
MinceR | most of it is just a recapitulation of marx' failed Labor Theory of Value over and over and over ad nauseam, in different words | Apr 23 15:57 |
MinceR | it's atrociously tedious | Apr 23 15:57 |
MinceR | and easily disproven | Apr 23 15:57 |
MinceR | the moment a store owner discounts the prices of some wares they couldn't sell so they could get the now useless stock out of their storage space, the LTV is disproven | Apr 23 15:58 |
scientes | well, I am not a Marxist | Apr 23 16:09 |
scientes | I am a Georgist | Apr 23 16:09 |
schestowitz | what is that? | Apr 23 16:15 |
schestowitz | Henry George? | Apr 23 16:15 |
scientes | yes | Apr 23 16:18 |
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sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Apr 23 17:30 |
MinceR | sebsebseb: IBM | Apr 23 17:31 |
scientes | Carrot | Apr 23 17:32 |
MinceR | Sugar cube | Apr 23 17:33 |
scientes | XRevan86, are there any chat apps that actually have some privacy? | Apr 23 17:47 |
scientes | and actually provide end-to-end security | Apr 23 17:47 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Conversations | Apr 23 17:47 |
scientes | cause there are lots of apps that PRETEND to provide end-to-end encryption | Apr 23 17:47 |
scientes | but it is a total lie | Apr 23 17:47 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Ubuntu 20.04 lock down release day | Apr 23 17:47 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Wire has E2EE | Apr 23 17:47 |
scientes | you mean the XMPP client that costs money? | Apr 23 17:48 |
MinceR | sebsebseb: who cares | Apr 23 17:48 |
XRevan86 | scientes: It's FOSS. | Apr 23 17:48 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: I do a bit, but not that much | Apr 23 17:48 |
XRevan86 | scientes: You can try its fork Pix-Art, its release on the Google Play Store doesn't have a price tag. | Apr 23 17:49 |
scientes | ugggh I'm so tired of Android | Apr 23 17:49 |
MinceR | i don't often need a system that boots into an emergency boot prompt on a hidden virtual console right out of the box, but if i do, an older version of ubuntu does it just as well | Apr 23 17:49 |
sebsebseb | scientes: so am I :D | Apr 23 17:49 |
scientes | and tired of Google | Apr 23 17:49 |
sebsebseb | scientes: why for you | Apr 23 17:49 |
scientes | EVERY google product is monitoring for mention of coronavirus | Apr 23 17:49 |
scientes | to control the message | Apr 23 17:49 |
MinceR | url? | Apr 23 17:50 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Conversations only requires payment if you get it from Play Store or that Amazon thingy. | Apr 23 17:50 |
sebsebseb | yep MinceR has carnovirus | Apr 23 17:50 |
scientes | I have a corona of thorns | Apr 23 17:50 |
scientes | and a Corona Beer | Apr 23 17:50 |
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MinceR | scientes: but no Toyota Corona? | Apr 23 17:50 |
scientes | there is a firefox add-on that does s/coronavirus/corona beer/ | Apr 23 17:50 |
MinceR | :) | Apr 23 17:50 |
MinceR | is there an extension that detects when someone meant a particular strain of CoV when they talk about CoV in general? :> | Apr 23 17:51 |
scientes | XRevan86, but serious, the real way to know the other side hears you is you just call them | Apr 23 17:51 |
scientes | instead of messaging | Apr 23 17:51 |
scientes | that is not privacy however | Apr 23 17:51 |
XRevan86 | scientes: There is an XMPP receipts XEP. | Apr 23 17:51 |
XRevan86 | which means that you can be sure that the message was received at least %) | Apr 23 17:52 |
scientes | but what about ZRTP/SIP? | Apr 23 17:52 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Ugh, I know only of Linphone | Apr 23 17:52 |
XRevan86 | Which looks pretty fine, but on my device it just eats all the RAM and crashes. | Apr 23 17:52 |
XRevan86 | scientes: I just settle for Jitsi Meet links sent through for XMPP or other channels. | Apr 23 17:53 |
XRevan86 | s/for // | Apr 23 17:53 |
scientes | yeah jitsi is where it is at | Apr 23 17:53 |
scientes | Jitsi is pretty bad ass | Apr 23 17:53 |
scientes | also, in many countries Facebook is corrupt with the state | Apr 23 17:54 |
scientes | so you can only use WhatsApp to contact most people | Apr 23 17:54 |
XRevan86 | That's pretty disgusting. | Apr 23 17:54 |
scientes | because they jack up the price of data like crazy to keep out the poor | Apr 23 17:54 |
scientes | Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Peru | Apr 23 17:55 |
scientes | all the same | Apr 23 17:55 |
scientes | Bolivia and Georgia very good cell phone service | Apr 23 17:55 |
scientes | and cheap | Apr 23 17:55 |
scientes | and in Bolivia it is easy to evade the government regulations, but you have to change number every 30 days or so | Apr 23 17:55 |
scientes | I only did so cause it was a waste of my time | Apr 23 17:56 |
scientes | but with that coup it will probably get turned over to Facebook like the other countries | Apr 23 17:57 |
scientes | so when you hear that Facebook is censoring, realize that the situation is so back in south-east asia that people don't know the difference between facebook and the internet | Apr 23 17:58 |
scientes | so that all of the US's talk of "freedom" is complete utter hypocricy | Apr 23 17:58 |
XRevan86 | > so that all of the US's talk of "freedom" is complete utter hypocrisy | Apr 23 17:59 |
XRevan86 | I wonder who didn't get the memo already | Apr 23 17:59 |
scientes | yeah, I was thinking that when I wrote it | Apr 23 18:00 |
scientes | hated evil empire race | Apr 23 18:00 |
scientes | https://www.resilience.org/stories/2006-12-04/closing-collapse-gap-ussr-was-better-prepared-collapse-us/ | Apr 23 18:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.resilience.org | Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US - Resilience | Apr 23 18:00 | |
scientes | " | Apr 23 18:00 |
scientes | The Hated Evil Empire Race is also finally being won by the Americans. It’s easy now that they don’t have anyone to compete against." | Apr 23 18:00 |
MinceR | what happened to red china and russia? | Apr 23 18:00 |
scientes | maybe I can file for asylum in North Korea | Apr 23 18:01 |
MinceR | :> | Apr 23 18:01 |
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XRevan86 | scientes: Somehow you still managed to find a worse one %) | Apr 23 18:01 |
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scientes | XRevan86, it is the only country that doesn't give a shit about this non-sense | Apr 23 18:01 |
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scientes | and that admits that it is a hoax | Apr 23 18:01 |
scientes | and whose supreme leader hugs people without shaming them | Apr 23 18:02 |
MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogwgq7JsRtE | Apr 23 18:02 |
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XRevan86 | scientes: You do realise that it is a country with a dynasty cult? | Apr 23 18:02 |
scientes | https://nypost.com/2020/03/15/queen-elizabeth-ii-leaves-buckingham-palace-with-plans-for-quarantine-over-coronavirus/ | Apr 23 18:03 |
scientes | https://variety.com/2020/biz/global/queen-elizabeth-coronavirus-footman-tests-positive-prince-charles-boris-johnson-1203548230/ | Apr 23 18:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Queen Elizabeth leaves Buckingham Palace for quarantine over coronavirus | Apr 23 18:03 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Queen Elizabeth’s Footman Diagnosed with Coronavirus (Report) – Variety | Apr 23 18:03 | |
XRevan86 | scientes: Okay, I see your point. | Apr 23 18:04 |
XRevan86 | Still not a high bar | Apr 23 18:04 |
scientes | ahhh, found something better | Apr 23 18:07 |
scientes | the other country it is impossible to get a visa to | Apr 23 18:07 |
scientes | https://rsf.org/en/news/coronavirus-limits-turkmenistan | Apr 23 18:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | Coronavirus off limits in Turkmenistan | RSF | Apr 23 18:07 | |
scientes | except again, you can't get the source | Apr 23 18:08 |
scientes | and that article is full of unsubstansiated slander | Apr 23 18:08 |
XRevan86 | An extremely closed off country, yes. | Apr 23 18:08 |
scientes | I think that was the country where every newspaper had the president on the cover | Apr 23 18:08 |
XRevan86 | scientes: That is believable. | Apr 23 18:09 |
scientes | considering that the disease doesn't exist and does not pose a threat I want to go there now | Apr 23 18:09 |
XRevan86 | scientes: You should consider Belarus' | Apr 23 18:11 |
scientes | but yeah, very hard to get visa | Apr 23 18:11 |
XRevan86 | although it seems Lukashenko has been changing his mind | Apr 23 18:11 |
XRevan86 | (LITERALLY!? Did the lizard people get to him!?) | Apr 23 18:11 |
scientes | XRevan86, Belarus is the country that is impossible to go to unless you are Russian or Belorus | Apr 23 18:11 |
XRevan86 | scientes: That doesn't sound true. | Apr 23 18:12 |
scientes | XRevan86, not impossible | Apr 23 18:12 |
scientes | but they have this open border with russia, except you have to be a citizen to cross it | Apr 23 18:12 |
XRevan86 | Ukrainians go there routinely for one thing. | Apr 23 18:12 |
scientes | well its differen't with a ussr passport | Apr 23 18:12 |
scientes | but europeans can only go there by flying in | Apr 23 18:12 |
XRevan86 | USSR, right. | Apr 23 18:12 |
scientes | the land borders are worthless | Apr 23 18:12 |
scientes | and I believe Russian trains require passports | Apr 23 18:13 |
scientes | so even with a russian visa you can't go there | Apr 23 18:13 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Ah, you mean, now that aeroplanes are off. | Apr 23 18:13 |
XRevan86 | scientes: You don't seriously consider that… | Apr 23 18:13 |
scientes | XRevan86, oh wow, nice | Apr 23 18:13 |
scientes | he called it "psycosis" | Apr 23 18:13 |
scientes | a real leader | Apr 23 18:13 |
scientes | I was really disappointed to see that Putin is just an act | Apr 23 18:14 |
scientes | OK, now the problem is getting there | Apr 23 18:14 |
XRevan86 | I probably said too much. | Apr 23 18:14 |
scientes | pretty soon all the Moscow people will go to Belarus so they can do business without being harassed | Apr 23 18:14 |
scientes | "Hundreds of thousands of Orthodox believers flocked to churches in Belarus on Sunday to celebrate Easter, a sharp contrast with reserved Orthodox Easter observances in other countries that banned public services. Lukashenko himself attended the services, accompanied by his 15-year-old son. " | Apr 23 18:15 |
XRevan86 | Unlikely. | Apr 23 18:15 |
scientes | the only country that celebrated Easter this year | Apr 23 18:15 |
scientes | that REALLY pissed me off | Apr 23 18:15 |
XRevan86 | scientes: About 40 regions of Russia celebrated Easter. | Apr 23 18:15 |
scientes | no passover and no easter | Apr 23 18:15 |
scientes | but churches are closed | Apr 23 18:15 |
XRevan86 | Putin waivered quarantine measures to regions, so now each gets to decide for themselves. | Apr 23 18:16 |
scientes | ahhhh | Apr 23 18:16 |
scientes | not in Georgia | Apr 23 18:16 |
XRevan86 | Everything got a lot more decentralised under the pandemic. | Apr 23 18:16 |
scientes | yes, I noticed that | Apr 23 18:17 |
scientes | Putin was *pleading* that regions not stop trade | Apr 23 18:17 |
scientes | but Chechnya still did some of that | Apr 23 18:17 |
scientes | ahh, that is a good reason to return back to the country-side where I was | Apr 23 18:18 |
scientes | as I was able to be around Russian | Apr 23 18:18 |
scientes | and I still have beautiful women I can't talk to because my Russian sucks | Apr 23 18:18 |
XRevan86 | One tab: "I have 4 relatives died, 1 positive, plus other 3 ppl i know died" | Apr 23 18:18 |
XRevan86 | Another tab: "considering that the disease doesn't exist and does not pose a threat I want to go there now" | Apr 23 18:18 |
XRevan86 | Such diversity. | Apr 23 18:19 |
MinceR | :> | Apr 23 18:19 |
scientes | the news is not diversity | Apr 23 18:19 |
scientes | it is the same thing over and over again | Apr 23 18:19 |
scientes | they should call themselves the old | Apr 23 18:19 |
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XRevan86 | scientes: That's not news, that's a person in my contacts list, lives in Italy. | Apr 23 18:19 |
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scientes | http://turkmenistan.gov.tm/_eng/?id=14196\ | Apr 23 18:22 |
scientes | http://turkmenistan.gov.tm/_eng/?id=14196 | Apr 23 18:22 |
scientes | yeah, it was Turkmenistan | Apr 23 18:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-turkmenistan.gov.tm | Golden age | Apr 23 18:22 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-turkmenistan.gov.tm | Golden age | Apr 23 18:22 | |
scientes | also a HORRIBLE translation | Apr 23 18:22 |
scientes | " | Apr 23 18:22 |
scientes | Monument of legendary horse shining with gold is placed on pyramid-shaped pedestal in the centre of architectural and sculptural ensemble decorating roundabout at the intersection of Kopetdag Avenue and Andalyb Street and indicating the love of Turkmens to their ‘winged’ horses. " | Apr 23 18:22 |
XRevan86 | Metaphorically speaking an aeroplane is just like a winged horse… | Apr 23 18:23 |
MinceR | metaphorically speaking everything could be equated to everything else | Apr 23 18:25 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: I mean, in the context of historical human perception %) | Apr 23 18:25 |
scientes | and an article with the title "The President of Turkmenistan made a cycling ride" | Apr 23 18:26 |
XRevan86 | To a hoo-man a horse is means of transportation, wings allow it to fly, so… | Apr 23 18:26 |
XRevan86 | kinda a personal jet %) | Apr 23 18:27 |
XRevan86 | No matter, not really something worth a debate. | Apr 23 18:27 |
scientes | like this? http://turkmenistan.gov.tm/_eng/?id=14205 | Apr 23 18:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-turkmenistan.gov.tm | Golden age | Apr 23 18:27 | |
XRevan86 | scientes: No, this is just regular horses :D | Apr 23 18:29 |
scientes | is this better? Сверкающее золотом изваяние легендарного скакуна вознесено на высокий пирамидальный постамент в центре архитектурно-скульптурного ансамбля, украшающего кольцевую развязку на пересечении проспекта Копетдаг и улицы Андалиба и свиде | Apr 23 18:29 |
scientes | тельствующего о том, с какой любовью относятся туркмены к своим «крылатым» коням. | Apr 23 18:29 |
XRevan86 | scientes: The same thing. | Apr 23 18:29 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: I'm not that worried about SJW's ruining companies. It's even alright by capitalist theory: companies that don't know how to count money will perish. | Apr 23 18:33 |
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XRevan86 | If Mozilla perishes, that'll be a lot more sad though. | Apr 23 18:35 |
scientes | XRevan86, i see lots of services without anyone there https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/04/20/russia-s-orthodox-easter-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic | Apr 23 18:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Apr 23 18:36 | |
scientes | crazy-fucking-land | Apr 23 18:37 |
scientes | I feel like I woke up in a distopian novel | Apr 23 18:37 |
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scientes | according the wikipedia the best dish of belarus is a potato pancake | Apr 23 18:38 |
scientes | that is more like a universal-food-that-poor-people-eat-when-they-have-nothing-else-to-eat-food | Apr 23 18:38 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Belarus' is very famous for its potatoes. | Apr 23 18:39 |
scientes | Bolivia is very gamous for its potatoes | Apr 23 18:39 |
XRevan86 | Belarusian even has its own word for a potato different from Greater Russian and Ukrainian. | Apr 23 18:39 |
scientes | not quite as much history in Belarus | Apr 23 18:39 |
scientes | I heard an apocraphic story from a German that this german nobelman couldn't get his peasents to plant potatoes, so he had his soldiers guard a field of potatoes and look the other way when they stole them | Apr 23 18:40 |
XRevan86 | German^W Greater Russian: Kartoffel, Belarusian: Bulba | Apr 23 18:41 |
scientes | South America has a great diversity of corn and potatoes | Apr 23 18:41 |
scientes | but you can't grow maize in the Bolivian high-lands | Apr 23 18:41 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarusian_cuisine#Potatoes | Apr 23 18:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Belarusian cuisine - Wikipedia | Apr 23 18:42 | |
scientes | Belarusians were sometimes called bulbashi, a pejorative conjugation of the Belarusian word for potato. | Apr 23 18:42 |
scientes | hahahahaha | Apr 23 18:43 |
scientes | Germans are sometimes called Krauts | Apr 23 18:43 |
scientes | to make fun of how much sour kraut (picked cabbage) they eat | Apr 23 18:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Trump campaign is prepared to send all of the old people it requires to jack up the Dow into the meat grinder, apparently. He's done such a piss poor job as our president, that his lead over Biden in Texas right now is only 2 points, which is within a polling error margin. | Apr 23 18:45 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], dude, oil prices went negative | Apr 23 18:45 |
scientes | so stop dribbling on and one about the endless olds cycle | Apr 23 18:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think oil prices are going to be weird for a year or more, personally. | Apr 23 18:46 |
scientes | great personal opinion | Apr 23 18:46 |
XRevan86 | Something tells me that is not going to affect the US as much as… some other countries. | Apr 23 18:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even if Trump manages to get a lot of stupid people to come out of their hidey holes, the rest of the country is terrified and isn't going to just go to the mall to look at novelty condoms because the orange menace said to. | Apr 23 18:47 |
scientes | XRevan86, in Azerbaijan it is already #1 news item | Apr 23 18:47 |
scientes | I am sure there for foreign meddling in the Georgian currency | Apr 23 18:48 |
scientes | to get it back to 3.17 from 3.5 | Apr 23 18:48 |
scientes | there is lots of news that money is free right now if you know the right people | Apr 23 18:48 |
scientes | and it has been that way for quite a while | Apr 23 18:48 |
scientes | hell, most US citizens get $1200 free | Apr 23 18:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oil prices have never gone negative and it's stupid investors that don't even know what they're invested in that did this. | Apr 23 18:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | They ended up with a lot of contracts to buy oil that came up when nobody really wanted half that much oil and they got seriously burned. | Apr 23 18:49 |
scientes | PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT | Apr 23 18:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | The $1,200 is being sucked up by debt collectors, paid immediately out for food and rent, or people hoard it to spend later if they don't end up needing it. | Apr 23 18:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | So it's not really going much of anywhere for the most part. | Apr 23 18:50 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], indeed you have to leave the US | Apr 23 18:50 |
scientes | but it still is just PRINT PRINT PRINT | Apr 23 18:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | To stimulate the economy it has to be spent on new stuff, not seized to pay for shit that went on the credit card 3 years ago. | Apr 23 18:50 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], you mean stimulate China's economy | Apr 23 18:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some blue states are quickly exempting stimulus checks from the credit card collection agencies, but red states aren't. | Apr 23 18:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Collection agencies are just parasites that buy debt speculatively for a few cents on the dollar for the right to collect on it. Even if half of it never comes in, they make money. They don't "produce" anything. | Apr 23 18:52 |
scientes | I am going to ignore you, cause you are annoying | Apr 23 18:52 |
XRevan86 | > PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT | Apr 23 18:52 |
XRevan86 | > I am going to ignore you, cause you are annoying | Apr 23 18:52 |
scientes | XRevan86, heheheheh | Apr 23 18:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | To stimulate the economy, people have to buy something that took labor to produce, stock, and sell. | Apr 23 18:53 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], but most of the US economy is composed of parasites, if you include all the back-scratchers | Apr 23 18:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | Unless you count some guy sitting on his ass in a corn field in Indiana for $8 an hour going "Bitch, where's my money!" to anyone who will answer the phone as "labor", this isn't that. | Apr 23 18:53 |
scientes | the US is mostly back-scratchers | Apr 23 18:53 |
scientes | and now all those back-scratchers are at home, doing absolutely nothing | Apr 23 18:54 |
scientes | and not paying their rent | Apr 23 18:54 |
scientes | because evictions were halted | Apr 23 18:54 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], oh yeah, did you here, you don't have to pay rent in the US anymore | Apr 23 18:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | I do. I'm living in a hotel. They could just deactivate the keycard. | Apr 23 18:56 |
scientes | break the window | Apr 23 18:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | This place filled up right away when the shit hit the fan. | Apr 23 18:56 |
scientes | yeah, the US is full of drifters, it is horrible | Apr 23 18:56 |
scientes | and no-one knows their neighbors | Apr 23 18:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Most of them are loud black people smoking marijuana and beating their girlfriend while the police say walk it off. | Apr 23 18:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Turned into a complete nightmare. | Apr 23 18:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, there's no housekeeping now except for people in Darth Vader costumes asking if you want towels and toilet paper. | Apr 23 18:58 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19102134 | Apr 23 19:13 |
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sebsebseb | MinceR: Apppe | Apr 23 19:15 |
sebsebseb | apple | Apr 23 19:15 |
MinceR | sebsebseb: red hat | Apr 23 19:15 |
sebsebseb | Fedora IBN | Apr 23 19:16 |
sebsebseb | IBM | Apr 23 19:16 |
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psydroid | Fedora AIX Edition | Apr 23 19:26 |
scientes | hahaha | Apr 23 19:26 |
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DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: You'd have to be a complete bonehead to want to take extra chances of getting COVID-19. | Apr 23 21:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | So of course the religious freedom people are leading the charge. | Apr 23 21:20 |
MinceR | it seems to me that most humans are complete boneheads | Apr 23 21:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, well, we'll be rid of many of the worst offenders after this. | Apr 23 21:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's the only part that is obvious. | Apr 23 21:22 |
MinceR | not even the majority of them | Apr 23 21:22 |
MinceR | death rate is well below 50% | Apr 23 21:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's like a bum in Chicago told me, Minder. | Apr 23 21:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | * MinceR | Apr 23 21:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Anything helps!!! Anything helps!!!!" | Apr 23 21:23 |
MinceR | yeah, just not enough | Apr 23 21:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, if it gets rid of a lot of Republican voters, it might move the needle enough in a close election to make the difference. | Apr 23 21:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then we at least ditch the Angry Cheeto. | Apr 23 21:24 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: bone heads? that's you :D | Apr 23 21:24 |
MinceR | no u | Apr 23 21:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The people not wearing masks and ignoring distancing and bringing the whole family to Walmart are probably why it's hurting blacks and Mexicans in Illinois so badly. | Apr 23 21:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | White people showing up dressed like the Orkin Man and dousing shit in hand sanitizer.... | Apr 23 21:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | You know.; | Apr 23 21:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's going to get rid of a lot of people who didn't take it seriously and to that extent it's pest control. | Apr 23 21:27 |
MinceR | "THIS IS NOT WAR, THIS IS PEST CONTROL!" | Apr 23 21:27 |
MinceR | https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/29/b2e5349e2c000801.mp4 | Apr 23 21:29 |
sebsebseb | in the UK | Apr 23 22:04 |
sebsebseb | the makes are debatable | Apr 23 22:04 |
sebsebseb | if people should be waring them or not when out and about | Apr 23 22:04 |
sebsebseb | plus something about if people have proper medical masks then could get short in NHS | Apr 23 22:04 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC[m]: MinceR a lot of the masks don't work that well | Apr 23 22:05 |
MinceR | flamethrowers work better | Apr 23 22:05 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: DaemonFC[m] when did you lost go outside ? | Apr 23 22:05 |
sebsebseb | also the social distancing here doesn't work particuary well in shops etc | Apr 23 22:05 |
MinceR | last week when i went shopping | Apr 23 22:06 |
MinceR | social distancing doesn't work anywhere here | Apr 23 22:06 |
sebsebseb | I went out yesterday | Apr 23 22:06 |
sebsebseb | and will probably tommorow as well | Apr 23 22:06 |
MinceR | there are more zombies on the streets than before the plague | Apr 23 22:06 |
sebsebseb | yeah the news goes on about the social distancing but then you acsutally go out and in most places it's quite well like before | Apr 23 22:06 |
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sebsebseb | MinceR: DaemonFC[m] you scared to go out ? | Apr 23 22:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Same | Apr 23 22:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | sebsebseb: No more than I have to. | Apr 23 22:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Truth is that Tenofovir could treat COVID, but that's generic and $20 so they're just letting people die while they investigate the $2,000 drug with 20 years of patents. | Apr 23 22:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.yahoo.com/news/wife-pastor-arrested-nearly-hitting-223909127.html | Apr 23 23:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | Wife of pastor arrested for nearly hitting protester with church bus flashes wads of cash as she bails him out | Apr 23 23:07 | |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC[m]: you think you could get corona and die ? | Apr 23 23:09 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Probably already had it. | Apr 23 23:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | Got pretty sick for weeks in February. | Apr 23 23:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | I take Tenofovir anyway as part of PrEP. | Apr 23 23:16 |
MinceR | https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/14/wd-red-nas-drives-shingled-magnetic-recording/ https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/15/seagate-2-4-and-8tb-barracuda-and-desktop-hdd-smr/ https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/16/toshiba-desktop-disk-drives-undocumented-shingle-magnetic-recording/ | Apr 23 23:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blocksandfiles.com | Western Digital admits 2TB-6TB WD Red NAS drives use shingled magnetic recording – Blocks and Files | Apr 23 23:16 | |
DaemonFC[m] | So I think that's why it didn't get worse than it did. | Apr 23 23:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blocksandfiles.com | Seagate 'submarines' SMR into 3 Barracuda drives and a Desktop HDD – Blocks and Files | Apr 23 23:16 | |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blocksandfiles.com | Toshiba desktop disk drives have shingles too – Blocks and Files | Apr 23 23:16 | |
cubexyz | if oil prices are negative, does that mean we get free gasoline? :) | Apr 23 23:17 |
cubexyz | I'm thinking no on that one | Apr 23 23:17 |
MinceR | unlikely | Apr 23 23:17 |
MinceR | it costs money to refine it, produce and add additives and deliver it to the fuel stations | Apr 23 23:17 |
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sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Apr 23 23:21 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: IBM | Apr 23 23:21 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Motorolla | Apr 23 23:21 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Nokia | Apr 23 23:21 |
MinceR | >ll | Apr 23 23:21 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Novell | Apr 23 23:21 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Microsoft | Apr 23 23:21 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Canonical | Apr 23 23:22 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Open SUSE | Apr 23 23:22 |
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DaemonFC[m] | > it costs money to refine it, produce and add additives and deliver it to the fuel stations | Apr 23 23:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Don't forget taxes to defeat the Axis.... | Apr 23 23:23 |
Narrator | hmmm | Apr 23 23:23 |
MinceR | aren't taxes expressed as a percentage of the net price? | Apr 23 23:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Nope. Well, kind of. | Apr 23 23:24 |
MinceR | in which case, if gasoline had negative price, taxes would be paid to you when you bought it? :> | Apr 23 23:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | In the US, gasoline is taxed several times. | Apr 23 23:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's a federal excise tax, a state excise tax, and in Illinois the state and local sales taxes. | Apr 23 23:25 |
XRevan86 | You know what didn't get cheaper in Russia? Petrol. | Apr 23 23:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | They hide it all in there so you won't know who takes what. | Apr 23 23:25 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2017/04/05/305e7cdc08bafc7b.png | Apr 23 23:40 |
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smnthermes | > XRevan86 Wrote: | Apr 23 23:52 |
smnthermes | > If Mozilla perishes, that'll be a lot more sad though. | Apr 23 23:52 |
smnthermes | If Mozilla dies, possibly people will support a more ethical alternative | Apr 23 23:52 |
XRevan86 | smnthermes: Except there won't be anything left but Blink. | Apr 23 23:52 |
XRevan86 | So what ethical alternative? Google? | Apr 23 23:52 |
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MinceR | gopher, perhaps | Apr 23 23:53 |
sebsebseb | XRevan86: smnthermes uh Mozilla won't just perish ? | Apr 23 23:53 |
MinceR | mozilla is already dead | Apr 23 23:54 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: link? profe ? | Apr 23 23:54 |
MinceR | it died when they betrayed the open web so they could support DRM, patent-encumbered codecs and pocket instead | Apr 23 23:54 |
sebsebseb | it's lost a lot of market to Google | Apr 23 23:54 |
sebsebseb | but it's not dead surely | Apr 23 23:54 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: ok so it's not really dead in other words :) | Apr 23 23:55 |
MinceR | ever since they only killed their products or made them worse | Apr 23 23:55 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Mozilla wa mou shindeiru | Apr 23 23:55 |
MinceR | firefox used to be the best browser, but became an inferior copy of chrome | Apr 23 23:55 |
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MinceR | one that tries to force poetteringaudio on its users | Apr 23 23:55 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: true it does look more like chrome now | Apr 23 23:55 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: poetteringaudio is what most Linux users use now, and his boot up thing :D | Apr 23 23:55 |
MinceR | no | Apr 23 23:56 |
sebsebseb | yes | Apr 23 23:56 |
sebsebseb | ! | Apr 23 23:56 |
MinceR | most Linux users use Android | Apr 23 23:56 |
sebsebseb | if we include Android then Google has most of the Linux market ! | Apr 23 23:56 |
Narrator | 99% | Apr 23 23:56 |
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Narrator | and bank's mainframes;-) | Apr 23 23:56 |
XRevan86 | Then it's Android's Media Server | Apr 23 23:57 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: XRevan86 companeis rule | Apr 23 23:58 |
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MinceR | corporations, governments and churches will be the end of life on Earth, if we don't stop them | Apr 23 23:58 |
sebsebseb | XRevan86: XRevan86 usual people go for companies, or things from companies, Google android google chrome, microsoft office, microsoft windows, google android, zoom, whatsapp, facebook, twitter | Apr 23 23:58 |
XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Especially Google, the rulest of them all. | Apr 23 23:58 |
sebsebseb | that was meant to be for mincer more so than you but yes | Apr 23 23:58 |
XRevan86 | At least in this Android / Chromium context. | Apr 23 23:59 |
sebsebseb | I have to use zoom now, not my choice! | Apr 23 23:59 |
sebsebseb | I have to use zoom sometimes now to do what I want to do | Apr 23 23:59 |
MinceR | i have to use teams | Apr 23 23:59 |
sebsebseb | I was meant to be on a meeting earlier, but a host didn't let in or whatever happended | Apr 23 23:59 |
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MinceR | it's funny how little of it actually works | Apr 23 23:59 |
sebsebseb | teams is from uhmm ? | Apr 23 23:59 |
XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Did you try injecting Jitsi Meet links to your peers? | Apr 23 23:59 |
MinceR | the mafia of redmond | Apr 23 23:59 |
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