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● Apr 23
[00:00]	orgy	embarassingly what?
[00:00]	TR News	Porting GNOME Builder to GTK 4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164039
[00:01]	TR Bot	 Porting GNOME Builder to GTK 4 | Tux Machines
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: your german friend ^
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR	gtk FOUR
[00:02]	schestowitz-TR	NOW vis moe BELLZ and VISELS
[00:04]	activelow	i have nothing to do with GTK or any developer of this project; GTK2/3/4 was blacklisted, ireversibly, two days ago
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	I programmed with GTK 1.x
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	back then GTK2 was still new and experimental
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	seems like version inflation
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	maybe GTK5 is just 2-3 years away
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	then they'll go GTK50
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	and GTK 60
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR	like with GNOME
[00:05]	activelow	GTK is blacklisted, ireversibly, two days ago; i'll focus on sixel graphics support instead
[00:06]	TR News	KDE Gear 22.04, postmarketOS v21.12 SP4 and Organic Maps (maybe) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164040
[00:06]	TR Bot	 KDE Gear 22.04, postmarketOS v21.12 SP4 and Organic Maps (maybe) | Tux Machines
[00:06]	activelow	not entirely sure about GTK1, shouldn't be too difficult, yet there is nothing using GTK1 anymore... why bother?
[00:07]	activelow	GTK2 is poisoned with cairo/pango/harfbuzz already; no thanks.
[00:13]	schestowitz-TR	minimalism
[00:16]	activelow	TeX, GNUPlot/Postscript, Sixel graphics can be very powerful, for scientific authoring, with a real unix shell
[00:19]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/weekend-random-randomness-4-16-22-31.jpg
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[00:20]	activelow	maybe, GNUPlot/Postscript can be skipped entirely, and instad TeX -> Sixel is possible directly, for both output inside terminal, and plotting onto matrix printer
[00:21]	activelow	i am not sure, historically, Sixel was dedicated to a DEC printer type, while Epson uses another bitmap format
[00:42]	TR News	Seems like webspam about Gallium Nitride chargers https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-is-gan-charger/ I always wonder why Todd was killed, as GaN is alleged to be a key point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Shane_Todd
[00:42]	TR Bot	 What Is a GaN Charger? 5 of the Best GaN Chargers You Can Buy - Make Tech Easier
[00:42]	TR Bot	 Death of Shane Todd - Wikipedia
[00:44]	TR News	Carter wins third term as leader of Debian GNU/Linux project http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164003#comment-33446
[00:44]	TR Bot	 Debian Project Leader election 2022, Jonathan Carter re-elected | Tux Machines
[00:47]	TR News	Vista 11 is a failure. Windows is dying. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/windows_11_marketshare/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/
[00:47]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/windows_11_marketshare/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/windows_11_marketshare/
[00:47]	TR Bot	 Windows 11 is within touching distance of Windows XP The Register
[00:47]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Delighted by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights
[00:50]	TR News	Criminals from Microsoft use Earth day for greenwashing spam https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/MICROSOFT-CORPORATION-4835/news/Microsoft-and-partners-are-building-a-more-sustainable-future-40114123/ see http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/
[00:50]	TR Bot	: and partners are building a more sustainable future | MarketScreener
[00:50]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights
[00:53]	TR News	Microsoft: if you're going to commit crimes against humanity, lying isn't the worst thing for you to worry about...
[00:53]	TR News	Earth Day 2022 became a joke because of what the MOST POLLUTING corporations did with it...
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● Apr 23
[01:02]	AltLink_c52c	 New Issue | Encrypted message | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/43
[01:02]	TR Bot	 Encrypted message (#43) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
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[01:18]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Blessed be the fruit.
[01:18]	DaemonFC	Eggs are back in the store. More expensive.
[01:18]	DaemonFC	They have raised the price on white eggs, but so far not on brown eggs.
[01:18]	TR News	Totally missing the point or lying about what patents are; if you pursue a monopoly and then "share" the monopoly, it's PR or greenwashing with Microsoft and Facebook in this case https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/alibaba_patents/
[01:18]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/alibaba_patents/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/alibaba_patents/
[01:18]	TR Bot	 Alibaba makes 9 datacenter green energy patents available The Register
[01:18]	DaemonFC	So I grabbed 60 brown eggs.
[01:19]	schestowitz-TR	ok, good luck with your eggs
[01:19]	schestowitz-TR	let's focus on tech
[01:20]	TR News	Greenwashing ruins EVERYTHING. Including the planet. Companies now compete over who lies most/best.
[01:25]	TR News	Linux Foundation Promoting Microsoft and Scams While Microsoft Intensifies Its Attacks on Linux (by Proxy and From the Inside) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/22/microsoft-and-other-scams/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/22/microsoft-and-other-scams/
[01:25]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Promoting Microsoft and Scams While Microsoft Intensifies Its Attacks on Linux (by Proxy and From the Inside) | Techrights
[01:26]	TR News	Linux Foundation primer http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
[01:26]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation - Techrights
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[01:31]	AltLink_c52c	 New Issue | Re: RE : | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/44
[01:31]	TR Bot	 Re: RE : (#44) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
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[01:35]	matey	lol
[01:38]	matey	looks like i missed the party
[01:38]	matey	in more ways than one
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● Apr 23
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[02:24]	DaemonFC	It seems like the stars are always aligned to screw over young people. 
[02:24]	DaemonFC	WalletHub says that the average quote for a 40 year old with GEICO is $40 for what an 18 year old has to pay $237 for, each month.
[02:24]	DaemonFC	And when you think about it, that's a really shitty deal because the 18 year old is probably off to a minimum wage job, or doesn't even have a job and is already trying to deal with student loans.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	In most of the country, taking public transit is impossible.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	So Chicago appeals to young people probably despite the taxes and crime because it has higher minimum wages and you don't strictly need to own a car to get around.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	The car is more of a financial burden on young people.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	After they dig deep to pay six times more for car insurance, they still have the breakdowns, the routine upkeep, the $4.50 Biden gas...
[02:30]	DaemonFC	When I was younger and all of the traditional insurance companies were ripping me off horribly, I went to the direct-sell policies where they cut out the agents and just gave you a cheaper policy.
[02:31]	DaemonFC	I had been paying some fatass slob named John Mettler to do pretty much nothing. I had an accident (drunk hit me) and went to use my rental coverage while my car was in the shop and he tried to stop me from getting a rental car to commute in until I told him I was going to get a lawyer and sue him for breach of contract and lost wages.
[02:33]	DaemonFC	I had to get away from Insuretech again because Root Insurance had been offering me great premiums due mostly to having a very high credit score.
[02:37]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-220422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-220422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-220422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-220422.txt
[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 22, 2022
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[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 22, 2022
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[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 22, 2022
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[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 22, 2022
[02:41]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-22.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-22.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:44]	AdmFubar	https://www.osnews.com/story/134804/apple-discontinues-macos-server/
[02:44]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134804/apple-discontinues-macos-server/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.osnews.com/story/134804/apple-discontinues-macos-server/
[02:44]	TR Bot	discontinues macOS Server OSnews
[02:46]	AdmFubar	https://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10163
[02:46]	TR Bot	 GNU Health - News: The Free Software community mourns the loss of Pedro Francisco (MasGNULinux) [Savannah]
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● Apr 23
[03:02]	AdmFubar	https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/chip-shortage-washing-machines
[03:02]	TR Bot	chips out of washing machines: Shortage gets extreme - Protocol
[03:02]	AdmFubar	https://www.protocol.com/apple-message-scan-csam
[03:02]	TR Bot	to roll out child safety message scanning feature - Protocol
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[03:07]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:08]	IPFS	QmV9dsXk4xgy3qMWvESny4Qa35XgbLoeAZM7H2FPwKwGvC
[03:08]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
[03:08]	AdmFubar	https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-cookies-preferences
[03:08]	TR Bot	lets European users reject all cookies - Protocol
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[03:35]	activelow	with an older codepath of libsdl1 directfb can be dropped entirely, that's interesting, and it's faster
[03:35]	activelow	and, this old code path is completely C
[03:37]	activelow	some of the related sources and ebuilds are more than 10years old, and disappeared, although useful on embedded
[03:38]	activelow	there isn't any vendor-specific hardware requirements with those
[03:39]	activelow	fluent DVD playback at fullHD, some older 3d games too at fullHD, flawless, on low-power cortex a53
[03:44]	activelow	i think any later than libsdl1 software-only for both mplayer and various games, meaning libsdl2 and surrounding aren't particularly "free" in comparison, from a developer perspektive
[03:49]	activelow	i mean, completely without any of the typical proprietary opengl/mesa/etc. which phoronix boasts about; libsdl1+fbcon on framebuffer console, that's it mainly
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[03:51]	activelow	strangely, the HDMI port of two different types of ARM SBC don't at least permit to freely switch to any standard of custom resolution
[03:51]	activelow	if this was working as it did for decades, this would make it slightly easier, to scale down to available resources
[03:53]	activelow	nonetheless, even the cortex a53 can handle it at fullhd, so there is no need to fiddle with resolutions
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[03:55]	activelow	besides, QT/GTK/GNOME/systemd/pulseaudio aboslutely none of this is required, for some multimedia
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[04:05]	matey	<activelow> besides, QT/GTK/GNOME/systemd/pulseaudio aboslutely none of this is required      \o/
[04:08]	activelow	i am even more surprised the libsdl1+fbcon (no directfb anymore) codepath is absolutely clean, not a single line of code of c++
[04:17]	matey	fbcon lets you use the framebuffer without directfb?
[04:18]	activelow	framebuffer can be used without directfb of cause, yet directfb implemented some software-scaling, handling of input devices etc.
[04:18]	activelow	and libsdl1 can do it (on framebuffer without x11 and without directfb)
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[04:27]	matey	and libsdl1 can do it <- with inout too i presume
[04:27]	matey	input
[04:38]	MinceR	ah, the old in-out-in-out
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[04:53]	matey	 <MinceR> ah, the old in-out-in-out <- the dance as old as time!
[04:54]	matey	/me leaps off bridge to make up for it
[04:55]	MinceR	:>
[04:55]	matey	/me watched some video years ago where some writer of fiction for LADIES (and anyone else into that) to PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD stop using that cliched phrase
[04:56]	matey	when there are so many other cliches to choose from 
[04:57]	matey	i dont know how i found it (i was researching writing tips for writers of NO... but i did have a friend who had been working on a book for years) but it was probably back in the horrible days of reddit
[04:57]	matey	the ones prior to the EVEN MORE HORRIBLE days of reddit
[04:57]	matey	these things end up on the front page of hn and bannit
[04:58]	matey	/me doesnt know why it isnt called bannit, its like an mmpo version of whack-a-mole 
[04:58]	matey	mmpowam
[04:58]	matey	"what do you do?" "people trying to say something poke their heads out of a hole like this?"
[04:59]	matey	"yes?"
[04:59]	matey	"then you ban them"
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[04:59]	matey	"thats it?"
[04:59]	matey	"thats it"
[04:59]	matey	"what if its not spam?"
[04:59]	matey	"then you have more fun banning them"
● Apr 23
[05:00]	MinceR	it's not even as old as time
[05:00]	MinceR	it's as old as some vertebrates
[05:00]	matey	so on top of being cliched, its unscientific, too
[05:00]	matey	but then if these women were more familiar with biology they wouldnt need these books :)
[05:00]	matey	(im joking)
[05:01]	matey	/me gets chased off the internet by a mob of angry ladies who like smutty fiction (which im completely in favour of, as long as not also shit)
[05:02]	matey	/me tries to find the exact phrase about "prurient interest"
[05:02]	matey	is that a word?
[05:03]	matey	it really is https://more.calaware.org/knowledge-base/what-does-the-law-mean-by-appealing-to-the-prurient-interest/
[05:03]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: calaware.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://more.calaware.org/knowledge-base/what-does-the-law-mean-by-appealing-to-the-prurient-interest/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://more.calaware.org/knowledge-base/what-does-the-law-mean-by-appealing-to-the-prurient-interest/
[05:03]	TR Bot	 What does the law mean by appealing to the prurient interest? - Californians Aware
[05:03]	matey	/me opens a bookshop called "the prurient express"
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[05:38]	What_Do_You_Think_Of_This	https://gitea.com/ISupportRussia/Stand_With_Putin/src/branch/master/README.md
[05:38]	TR Bot	at master - Stand_With_Putin - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea
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[05:56]	matey	since you asked, i think youre a cunt
[05:56]	matey	oh, they left
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[06:05]	activelow	matey: libsdl1 alone suffices, it doesn't require any additional input device handling/abstraction on framebuffer console
[06:14]	matey	cool
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[06:56]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Friday, April 22, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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[07:06]	TR News	xkcd: Assigning Numbers https://xkcd.com/2610/ Source: xkcd
[07:06]	TR Bot	Assigning Numbers
[07:06]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2610/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2610/
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[07:07]	TR News	"I would suggest NOT registering on the forum until I get it back up to normal. I paid for 4 years of premium hosting under a new service. They set up a generic phpbb & within minutes I already have a new user registered. You are wasting your time. I have to upload 9.1GB of files and restore the database" http://ultimateedition.info/please-dont-bother/
[07:07]	TR Bot	 Please dont bother - Ultimate Edition
[07:13]	TR News	5 Less Popular Features that Make Ubuntu 22.04 LTS an Epic Release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164041
[07:13]	TR Bot	 5 Less Popular Features that Make Ubuntu 22.04 LTS an Epic Release | Tux Machines
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[07:40]	matey	roy: spends 90% of his spare time working on a website
[07:41]	matey	also roy: doesnt want a server os (because whats that good for)
[07:41]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164042
[07:41]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[07:44]	matey	also roy: already uses a desktop based on a gui that was designed for a server
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● Apr 23
[08:20]	matey	offer someone who claims to care about the future the opportunity to devote a minor portion of his meagre resources to cutting a path through a new frontier
[08:20]	matey	and he would prefer to wander aimlessly through the wilderness. but okay.
[08:21]	matey	oh but
[08:21]	matey	not without so much bias and talk about something he refuses to learn more about
[08:22]	matey	sure, thats cool, i mean
[08:22]	matey	its expected
[08:23]	matey	i dont know why i even say anything that might change it 
[08:23]	matey	if someones going to say things out of ignorance, its better to let them continue to do so and make it obvious
[08:24]	matey	if they actually started learning about it, the bias would less obvious and they could stretch it a little farther
[08:24]	TR News	I Ditched Ubuntu for Manjaro: Heres What I Think After a Week Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164043
[08:24]	TR Bot	 I Ditched Ubuntu for Manjaro: Here's What I Think After a Week | Tux Machines
[08:24]	TR News	This week in KDE: Major accent color and Global Theme improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164044
[08:24]	TR Bot	 This week in KDE: Major accent color and Global Theme improvements | Tux Machines
[08:24]	TR News	Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk Tinkercad Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164045
[08:24]	TR Bot	 Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk Tinkercad | Tux Machines
[08:24]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164046
[08:24]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:25]	matey	at any rate, bsd is far from perfect
[08:25]	matey	mincer is right, the industry has flushed itself
[08:25]	matey	you want the thing thats most likely to be fixable in a few months or a year, go with the least bullshit option
[08:26]	matey	you want to stay on a treadmill and be led around, go with john carter, the liar
[08:26]	matey	and in the middle somewhere (but too close to carter for my taste) is devuan
[08:26]	matey	that was a very good stop along the way. in 2016.
[08:27]	matey	ive had no shortage of issues with it
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[08:31]	TR News	"I was reading an interesting and educational blog post, about the writer's home infrastructure status." https://asylum.madhouse-project.org/blog/2021/10/23/peeking-through-logs/ |
[08:31]	TR Bot	 Peeking through logs - Asylum
[08:31]	TR News	"WebAssembly (WASM) is compilation target for many programming languages" https://matt-rickard.com/serverside-vs-clientside-wasm/ | Source: Matt Rickard
[08:31]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/serverside-vs-clientside-wasm/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/serverside-vs-clientside-wasm/
[08:31]	TR Bot	 Serverside, or Clientside WASM?
[08:33]	TR News	"The project has been around for at least 15 years now and recently minimig.ca has released a new revision of the board" https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/04/20/pistorm-in-the-minimig/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings
[08:33]	TR Bot	 PiStorm in the MiniMig LinuxJedi's /dev/null
[08:33]	TR News	"If youre tired of typing in a password to log into your computer and you don't use a fingerprint reader or an IR camera" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-push-up-unlock-system | Source: Tom's Hardware
[08:33]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi Unlocks Computer by Detecting Push-Ups with ML | Tom's Hardware
[08:36]	TR News	[Older] "Free and open source software (FOSS) projects need infrastructure." https://drewdevault.com/2022/03/29/free-software-free-infrastructure.html | Source: Drew DeVault
[08:36]	TR Bot	 It is important for free software to use free software infrastructure
[08:36]	TR News	"The latest OpenSSH 9.0 release defaults to the NTRU Prime algorithm" https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/openssh-9-0-bakes-in-post-quantum-cryptography-to-future-proof-against-attacks | Source: Port Swigger
[08:36]	TR Bot	 OpenSSH 9.0 bakes in post-quantum cryptography to future proof against attacks | The Daily Swig
[08:37]	TR News	New 64MP autofocus cam for Raspberry Pi and CM4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164047
[08:37]	TR Bot	 New 64MP autofocus cam for Raspberry Pi and CM4 | Tux Machines
[08:40]	TR News	"Listening to a speaker who interjects words such as um, uuh, and so can be extremely distracting and take away from the message being conveyed" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/21/train-yourself-to-avoid-using-filler-words-with-the-tinyml-powered-mind-the-uuh-device/ | Source: Arduino
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[08:41]	TR Bot	 Train yourself to avoid using filler words with the tinyML-powered Mind the Uuh device | Arduino Blog
[08:42]	TR News	"TLDR We are switching from a source-available license, to an open-source license for Earthly" https://earthly.dev/blog/earthly-open-source/ | Source: Earthly
[08:42]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: earthly.dev | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://earthly.dev/blog/earthly-open-source/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://earthly.dev/blog/earthly-open-source/
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Earthly Switches to Open-source - Earthly Blog
[08:42]	TR News	"What were seeing today is a direct result of the success of open-source software." https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/21/1050788/the-changing-economics-of-open-source/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
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[08:42]	TR Bot	 The changing economics of open source | MIT Technology Review
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[09:01]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Friday, April 22, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/23/irc-log-220422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/23/irc-log-220422/
[09:01]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Friday, April 22, 2022 | Techrights
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[09:13]	TR News	"In contrast, societal implications and possible negative consequences are loosely conceived and considered (if at all)" https://criticaledtech.com/2022/04/22/what-values-drive-the-development-of-ai/ | Source: Neil Selwyn
[09:13]	TR Bot	 What values drive the development of AI? Critical Studies of EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY
[09:13]	TR News	"Like any other programming language, Bash supports loops. The loops are used to repeatedly execute a set of commands based on some condition." https://earthly.dev/blog/loops-in-bash/ | Source: Earthly
[09:13]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: earthly.dev | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://earthly.dev/blog/loops-in-bash/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://earthly.dev/blog/loops-in-bash/
[09:13]	TR Bot	 Using Loops In Bash - Earthly Blog
[09:14]	schestowitz	Ariadne: headsup, we're about to start a 14-part explosive series about EPO and Belarus
[09:14]	schestowitz	I don't expect massive backlash
[09:14]	schestowitz	but it will have big impact
[09:14]	TR News	"Why did some protocols win and others lose? I think each of these deserves their own deep dive, but distilling a high level lessons" https://matt-rickard.com/why-do-protocols-win/ | Source: Matt Rickard
[09:15]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/why-do-protocols-win/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/why-do-protocols-win/
[09:15]	TR Bot	 Why Do Protocols Win?
[09:15]	TR News	"With time to think and nothing else to do I can probably spot most consumer-grade scams" https://robertheaton.com/almost-scammed/ | Source: Robert Heaton
[09:15]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: robertheaton.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://robertheaton.com/almost-scammed/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://robertheaton.com/almost-scammed/
[09:15]	TR Bot	 I'm a security engineer and I still almost got scammed | Robert Heaton
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[09:23]	TR News	Proprietary junk http://archives.somnolescent.net/web/hypercard/ |
[09:23]	TR Bot	 Art Bits from HyperCard
[09:23]	TR News	Proprietary https://michaelwest.com.au/trivago-fined-44-7m-over-misleading-rates-2/ |
[09:23]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: michaelwest.com.au | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://michaelwest.com.au/trivago-fined-44-7m-over-misleading-rates-2/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://michaelwest.com.au/trivago-fined-44-7m-over-misleading-rates-2/
[09:23]	TR Bot	 Trivago fined $44.7m over misleading rates - Michael West
[09:23]	TR News	Windows TCO https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28568 | Source: SANS
[09:23]	TR Bot	 InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
[09:23]	TR News	Microsoft TCO https://siliconangle.com/2022/04/21/hive-ransomware-affiliate-targeting-vulnerable-microsoft-exchange-servers/ | Source: Silicon Angle
[09:23]	TR Bot	ransomware affiliate targets vulnerable Microsoft Exchange servers - SiliconANGLE
[09:27]	TR News	"In other words, there is no network edge anymore not really and even to the extent that perimeters exist, they can be breached." https://www.computerworld.com/article/3657617/in-a-remote-work-world-a-zero-trust-revolution-is-necessary.html | Source: Computer World
[09:27]	TR Bot	a remote-work world, a zero-trust revolution is necessary | Computerworld
[09:35]	TR News	"The move doesn't exhaust the legal options for Assange, who has sought for years to avoid a trial in the U.S. on charges related to WikiLeaks publication " https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/04/20/uk-approves-extradition-julian-assange-us/7379595001/ | Source: Gannett
[09:35]	TR Bot	 UK approves extradition of Julian Assange to US for spying charges
[09:35]	TR News	"special administrative measures" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/20/uk/julian-assange-extradition-order-intl/index.html | Source: CNN
[09:35]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/20/uk/julian-assange-extradition-order-intl/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/20/uk/julian-assange-extradition-order-intl/index.html
[09:35]	TR Bot	 Julian Assange extradition order issued by London court - CNN
[09:36]	TR News	"This typical sort of reply is almost always truthful. That is all they want." https://blog.plover.com/2022/04/21/#contracts-3 | Source: Mark Dominus
[09:36]	TR Bot	 The Universe of Discourse : Pushing back against contract demands is scary but please try anyway
[09:48]	TR News	"At a time when it feels like significant parts of the internet can suddenly fall under the control of wealthy people seemingly more focused on causing chaos" https://tedium.co/2022/04/13/internet-free-net-history/ | Source: Tedium
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[09:48]	TR Bot	 Free-Net History: The Rise and Fall of Community Dial-Up
[09:49]	TR News	"If youre using a 2G or 3G phone to access the internet or make calls, Im sorry to tell you that its going offline very soon" https://tedium.co/2022/04/08/10-obscure-networking-technologies/ | Source: Tedium
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[09:49]	TR Bot	 10 Networking Technologies That You Probably Arent Using
[09:51]	TR News	"federal appeals court has denied a request for a rehearing on its January decision that upholds Californias net neutrality law." https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/21/23035359/california-net-neutrality-law-appeal-overturn-fcc-broadband | Source: The Verge
[09:51]	TR Bot	 California net neutrality law to remain intact after appeals court says it wont reconsider earlier decision - The Verge
[09:51]	TR News	"In January, the court turned back industry trade groups, including US Telecom, the cable industry groups NCTA and ACA Connects" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/ninth-circuit-court-of-appeal-denies-efforts-to-eliminate-california-net-neutrality-law/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
[09:51]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/ninth-circuit-court-of-appeal-denies-efforts-to-eliminate-california-net-neutrality-law/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/ninth-circuit-court-of-appeal-denies-efforts-to-eliminate-california-net-neutrality-law/
[09:51]	TR Bot	 Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Denies Efforts to Eliminate California Net Neutrality Law : Broadband Breakfast
[09:51]	TR News	"Internet service providers in California will have to hew to new net neutrality rules, a federal appeals court signaled Wednesday (April 20)" https://www.nexttv.com/news/federal-appeals-court-dismissively-dismisses-california-net-neutrality-law-appeal | Source: Next TV
[09:51]	TR Bot	 Federal Appeals Court Dismisses California Net Neutrality Law Appeal | Multichannel News
● Apr 23
[10:06]	TR News	Patents kill innovation https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/stratasys-patent-expires-3d-printing-industry-insiders-comment-on-impact-185454/ |
[10:06]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: 3dprintingindustry.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/stratasys-patent-expires-3d-printing-industry-insiders-comment-on-impact-185454/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/stratasys-patent-expires-3d-printing-industry-insiders-comment-on-impact-185454/
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Stratasys patent expires, 3D printing industry insiders comment on impact - 3D Printing Industry
[10:07]	TR News	"A patent expired between end tail end of 2008 and the beginning of 2009. Big deal, patents expire all the time right?" https://www.3dsourced.com/guides/history-of-3d-printing/ |
[10:07]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: 3dsourced.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.3dsourced.com/guides/history-of-3d-printing/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.3dsourced.com/guides/history-of-3d-printing/
[10:07]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.3dsourced.com/guides/history-of-3d-printing/ )
[10:07]	TR News	"Did you know that 3D printing development dates back to the late 20th century? The first 3D printing process was invented by Charles Hull" https://www.techslang.com/how-3d-printing-works-and-what-to-expect-post-2021/ |
[10:07]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.techslang.com/how-3d-printing-works-and-what-to-expect-post-2021/ )
[10:07]	TR News	"Rapid development followed. By 1999, the first 3D-printed organ was used in a transplant surgery, and in 2005, Dr. Adrian Bowyer created a self-replicating print process" https://now.northropgrumman.com/it-all-adds-up-exploring-the-present-and-potential-of-3d-printing-technology/ |
[10:07]	TR Bot	 It All Adds Up: Exploring the Present and Potential of 3D Printing Technology Now. Powered by Northrop Grumman
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[10:15]	TR News	"the extravaganza event sponsored by the Linux Foundation" https://fossforce.com/2022/04/what-to-expect-at-austins-open-source-summit-2022/ | Unicorn Media took LF money :/
[10:15]	TR Bot	 What to Expect at Open Source Summit 2022 - FOSS Force
[10:17]	TR News	"Every fan of the original Star Wars trilogy knows the plight of Han Solo, who was so cruelly frozen in carbonite by Imperial forces." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/22/2022-sci-fi-contest-a-very-star-wars-door/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:17]	TR Bot	Sci-Fi Contest: A Very Star Wars Door | Hackaday
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[10:30]	TR News	"Computer memory is a problem that has been solved for many years." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/22/harder-drives-impractical-slow-amazing-and-incredible/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:30]	TR Bot	Drives: Impractical, Slow, Amazing, And Incredible | Hackaday
[10:30]	TR News	"Whether in a shop window or mounted to the top of consoles in NASAs Mission Control Center, edge lit acrylic is a popular choice for making high visibility signs." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/22/building-an-edge-lit-sign-from-the-scrap-pile/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:30]	TR Bot	An Edge Lit Sign From The Scrap Pile | Hackaday
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[10:36]	TR News	Facebook https://www.wsj.com/articles/sandberg-facebook-kotick-activision-blizzard-daily-mail-11650549074 WSL paywall
[10:36]	TR Bot	Sheryl Sandberg Pressured Daily Mail to Drop Bobby Kotick Reporting - WSJ
[10:44]	TR News	LAPSUS$ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/04/leaked-chats-show-lapsus-stole-t-mobile-source-code/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[10:44]	TR Bot	 Leaked Chats Show LAPSUS$ Stole T-Mobile Source Code Krebs on Security
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[10:48]	TR News	"Billionaires Do Not Give Anything to Society" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/22/billionaires-do-not-give-anything-society-they-take-it | Source: Common Dreams
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[10:48]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Billionaires Do Not Give Anything to SocietyThey Take From It | Jorge Majfud
[10:48]	TR News	"Chief Magistrate Senior District Judge Paul Goldspring was never going to rock the judicial boat." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/22/to-the-home-office-we-go-the-extradition-of-julian-assange/ | Source: Counter Punch
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[10:48]	TR Bot	the Home Office We Go: The Extradition of Julian Assange - CounterPunch.org
[10:53]	TR News	Rotten https://truthout.org/articles/first-apple-store-files-for-union-with-at-least-6-other-campaigns-underway/ | Source: TruthOut
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[10:53]	TR Bot	 First Apple Store Files for Union With at Least 6 Other Campaigns Underway
● Apr 23
[11:00]	TR News	"Join Hackaday Editor-in-Chief Elliot Williams and Assignments Editor Kristina Panos as we gab about the most interesting hacks and stories of the previous week." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/22/hackaday-podcast-165-old-printers-dark-towers-3dp-gaskets-and-wavy-traces/ | Source: Hackaday
[11:00]	TR Bot	Podcast 165: Old Printers, Dark Towers, 3DP Gaskets, And Wavy Traces | Hackaday
[11:04]	TR News	"Open internet defenders cheered this week after a federal appeals court rejected an industry-backed petition to block enforcement of California's net neutrality law." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/win-our-fight-net-neutrality-industry-loses-another-attempt-block-california-law | Source: Common Dreams
[11:04]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/win-our-fight-net-neutrality-industry-loses-another-attempt-block-california-law https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/win-our-fight-net-neutrality-industry-loses-another-attempt-block-california-law
[11:04]	TR Bot	 'A Win in Our Fight for Net Neutrality': Industry Loses Another Attempt to Block California Law
[11:18]	TR News	Patents kill. Sometimes millions at a time. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/who-warns-poor-nations-could-be-pushed-end-queue-pfizer-covid-pill | Source: Common Dreams
[11:18]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/who-warns-poor-nations-could-be-pushed-end-queue-pfizer-covid-pill https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/who-warns-poor-nations-could-be-pushed-end-queue-pfizer-covid-pill
[11:18]	TR Bot	 WHO Warns Poor Nations Could Be Pushed to 'End of the Queue' for Pfizer Covid Pill
[11:19]	TR News	On "union-busting" and coffee-sipping cult Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/leaked-video-reveals-starbucks-ceo-urged-managers-ramp-union-busting-efforts | Source: Common Dreams
[11:19]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/leaked-video-reveals-starbucks-ceo-urged-managers-ramp-union-busting-efforts https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/leaked-video-reveals-starbucks-ceo-urged-managers-ramp-union-busting-efforts
[11:19]	TR Bot	 Leaked Video Reveals Starbucks CEO Urged Managers to Ramp Up Union-Busting Efforts
[11:25]	TR News	"A man at the center of a copyright scam that abused YouTube's Content ID system to fraudulently" https://torrentfreak.com/man-pleads-guilty-to-23m-youtube-content-id-scam-220423/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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[11:25]	TR Bot	Pleads Guilty to $23m YouTube Content ID Scam * TorrentFreak
[11:25]	TR News	"The Motion Picture Association (MPA) would like stricter identity checks to become part of a new trade agreement between the U.S. and the Indo-Pacific region." https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-wants-stricter-online-identity-checks-to-catch-pirates-220422/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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[11:25]	TR Bot	Wants Stricter Online Identity Checks to Catch Pirates * TorrentFreak
[11:26]	TR News	"'Operation 404', a Brazilian anti-piracy initiative carried out with support from the US and UK, claimed more successes this week." https://torrentfreak.com/new-phase-of-operation-404-targets-pirate-iptv-streaming-sites-220422/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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[11:26]	TR Bot	Phase of 'Operation 404' Targets Pirate IPTV & TV Streaming Sites * TorrentFreak
[11:27]	TR News	"[Zak Kemble] likes to build things, and for several years has been pining over various Raspberry Pi products with an eye on putting them into service as a router." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/22/meet-the-routerpi-a-compute-module-4-based-gbe-router/ | Source: Hackaday
[11:27]	TR Bot	The RouterPi, A Compute Module 4 Based GbE Router | Hackaday
[11:28]	TR News	"Surface conductors on vacuum formed parts appear in many hacks, from cosplay armor to 3D touch pads and smart objects. But making them has always been painful." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/22/add-conductive-traces-on-vacuum-formed-plastic-with-3d-printing/ | Source: Hackaday
[11:28]	TR Bot	Conductive Traces On Vacuum Formed Plastic With 3D Printing | Hackaday
[11:28]	TR News	"Its no surprise that the hacking and making community has traditionally had something of a love affair with movie props, especially those of the science fiction variety." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/22/movie-prop-electronics-hack-chat-takes-us-behind-the-scenes/ | Source: Hackaday
[11:28]	TR Bot	Prop Electronics Hack Chat Takes Us Behind The Scenes | Hackaday
[11:40]	TR News	[cat] Cheetah a Day Day 568: Pair by the water gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D568.jpg
[11:41]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D210.jpg
[11:42]	TR News	How to transfer files between devices gemini://gmi.noulin.net/2022-04-22-how-to-transfer-files-between-devices.gmi
[11:43]	TR News	I have now wrapped my brain around how it got that link gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/22.3
[11:44]	TR News	"It's not only Gemini bots having issues with redirects [1]. I'm poking around the logs from my webserver, when I scan all of them to see the breakdown of response codes my server is sending (for this month)." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/22.2
[11:46]	TR News	"It's been quite a while since I last posted (over 2 months!) There's been some changes in my life and some learning. You know, the usual. I went back to unrestricted net access due to the necessity of studying for a job prospect I was going for." gemini://charick.srht.site/posts/2022-4-22.gmi
[11:48]	TR News	Video guide to install OpenBSD 7.1 with the GNOME desktop: "I asked the community recently if they would like to have a video tutorial about installing OpenBSD, many people answered yes so here it is! I hope you will enjoy it, I'm quite happy of the result while I'm not myself fan of watching video tutorials." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-video-tutorial-installation.gmi
[11:49]	TR News	"Sweden, which has the seventh highest employment rate in the world, used to have a large, publicly funded employment agency, a state-sponsored job board of sorts. During the last few decades, this agency has seen wave after wave of cuts to the point of uselessness." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/employment-rate
[11:51]	TR News	"This is definitely my longest post so far, though that was not my intention when starting to write. Does this count as longform technical content that a (now former) Geminaut would prefer to have available?" gemini://ainent.xyz/devlog/mud/2022-04-23-mud-spinoff-projects.gmi
[11:52]	TR News	"I tinkered myself a better indexing site for this gemlog. I wanted to separate my gemlogs and webblogs from each other, so that people know what is mirrored from web and what is gemini exclusive." gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/2022-04-23-Setting-up-my-gemlog-and-some-work-related-musings.gmi
[11:53]	TR News	"So, I've been using the old Lenovo T410 as my ham radio laptop recently. It works great. But the other day I was gifted a T440p, i7 with 16g of ram and a 500g SSD. Upgrade! Or so I thought..." gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space:70/0/~tfurrows/phlog/2022-04-22_RFILaptop.txt
[11:53]	TR News	"I like to stop by thrift stores when traveling, and as I finally took the family on a road trip recently, I had a change to visit a few. Retro tech is getting more and more rare in thrift stores, understandably." gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space:70/0/~tfurrows/phlog/2022-04-22_thriftFinds.txt
[11:55]	TR News	"Saw a woman on the subway that was so well dressed wearing a relatively simple outfit that i think i understand fashion now. Before i thought fashion was just trends and/or social signaling, but now i see there are principles. I also see that no one outside or New York understands them, or can understand them, because they are transmitted socially and informally" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
[11:56]	TR News	"The Internet is not as fun as it used to be, and (in my experience) even the people who are more loose tend to sow conflict, distrust, and paranoia wherever they go." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/897
[11:58]	TR News	<li>
[11:59]	TR News	"Law enforcement officers are more used to violating rights than having theirs violated, so this case" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/22/federal-court-awards-immunity-to-sheriff-who-searched-an-officers-private-dropbox-account-without-a-warrant/ | Source: Techdirt
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[11:59]	TR Bot	Court Awards Immunity To Sheriff Who Searched An Officers Private Dropbox Account Without A Warrant | Techdirt
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[12:10]	TR News	"Weve noted several times how the Trump FCC spent four years being little more than a giant rubber stamp for the nations biggest telecom monopolies." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/22/big-telecoms-quest-to-ban-states-from-protecting-broadband-consumers-continues-to-go-poorly/ | Source: Techdirt
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[12:10]	TR Bot	Telecoms Quest To Ban States From Protecting Broadband Consumers Continues To Go Poorly | Techdirt
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[12:10]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 62.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 267.71
[12:18]	TR News	"lawsuit filed by Sycamore Brewing against Stone Brewing" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/22/stone-brewing-forced-to-cover-up-keep-it-juicy-on-trade-dress-as-lawsuit-kicks-off/ | Source: Techdirt
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[12:18]	TR Bot	Brewing Forced To Cover Up Keep It Juicy On Trade Dress As Lawsuit Kicks Off | Techdirt
[12:19]	TR News	"Modern foods will bankrupt the cattle industry within a decade." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/22/the-collapse-of-industrial-farming/ | Source: Counter Punch
[12:19]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/22/the-collapse-of-industrial-farming/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/22/the-collapse-of-industrial-farming/
[12:19]	TR Bot	Collapse of Industrial Farming - CounterPunch.org
[12:19]	TR News	Co-called "Crypto" (fakecoin) https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/22/why-crypto-is-a-risky-bet-for-black-americans/ | Source: Counter Punch
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[12:19]	TR Bot	Crypto is a Risky Bet for Black Americans - CounterPunch.org
[12:40]	TR News	New EPO Series: From Belarus With Love - Teaser | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/23/from-belarus-with-love/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/23/from-belarus-with-love/
[12:40]	TR Bot	 New EPO Series: From Belarus With Love Teaser | Techrights
[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 52.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.10
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[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	gm, bnchs
[13:22]	bnchs	hey roy
[13:23]	TR News	[Meme] The Eastern Front (of Industrial Espionage) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/23/epo-industrial-espionage-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/23/epo-industrial-espionage-2022/
[13:23]	TR Bot	 [Meme] The Eastern Front (of Industrial Espionage) | Techrights
[13:24]	TR News	Postponing things is good gemini://idiomdrottning.org/postponing
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[13:32]	TR News	Fallacy: Windows Has Majority Market Share (Operating System Market Share Worldwide) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164048
[13:32]	TR Bot	 Fallacy: Windows Has Majority Market Share (Operating System Market Share Worldwide) | Tux Machines
[13:32]	TR News	Patents that kill https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/22/ny-times-editorial-board-gets-it-drug-patents-are-bankrupting-americans-it-needs-to-be-fixed/ | Source: Techdirt
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[13:32]	TR Bot	Times Editorial Board Gets It: Drug Patents Are Bankrupting Americans & It Needs To Be Fixed | Techdirt
[13:33]	TR News	GOP https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/22/florida-republican-govt-officials-bend-over-backwards-to-tell-everyone-that-yes-absolutely-they-are-punishing-disney-for-its-speech/ | Source: Techdirt
[13:33]	TR Bot	Republican Govt Officials Bend Over Backwards To Tell Everyone That, Yes, Absolutely, They Are Punishing Disney For Its Speech | Techdirt
[13:33]	TR News	Starbucks and SweatshopZone https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-is-traveling-to-rally-with-amazon-and-starbucks-workers-this-weekend/ | Source: TruthOut
[13:33]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-is-traveling-to-rally-with-amazon-and-starbucks-workers-this-weekend/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-is-traveling-to-rally-with-amazon-and-starbucks-workers-this-weekend/
[13:33]	TR Bot	 Sanders Is Traveling to Rally With Amazon and Starbucks Workers This Weekend
[13:37]	TR News	LHS Episode #464: The Weekender XC https://lhspodcast.info/2022/04/lhs-episode-464-the-weekender-xc-2/
[13:37]	TR Bot	 LHS Episode #464: The Weekender XC | Linux in the Ham Shack
[13:54]	activelow	that's remarkable too, given the faster compilation times of a C-only unix system, i can focus alot more on reading and hacking sources, and i haven't arrived yet at tinycc
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[14:05]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164049
[14:05]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[14:06]	TR News	Gammath SPOT 3.3 (beta) released on 22 April 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT
[14:06]	TR Bot	 Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory
[14:11]	TR News	Revealed: MeitY blocked 6096 URLs and 347 applications https://internetfreedom.in/revealed-meity-blocked-6096-urls-and-347-applications-in-2021-but-held-less-than-40-hearings/ Source: internetfreedom
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[14:11]	TR Bot	 Revealed: MeitY blocked 6096 URLs and 347 applications
[14:12]	TR News	Annual Report: LibreOffice Conference 2021 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/04/23/annual-report-libreoffice-conference-2021/
[14:12]	TR Bot	 Annual Report: LibreOffice Conference 2021 - The Document Foundation Blog
[14:12]	TR News	Training at Qt Developer Conference 2022 https://www.kdab.com/training-at-qtdevcon/
[14:12]	TR Bot	at Qt Developer Conference 2022 - KDAB
[14:12]	TR News	The Wine development release 7.7 is now available. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164050
[14:12]	TR Bot	 The Wine development release 7.7 is now available. | Tux Machines
[14:16]	TR News	Events: Qt, LibreOffice, and the Openwashing LF Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164051
[14:16]	TR Bot	 Events: Qt, LibreOffice, and the Openwashing LF | Tux Machines
[14:20]	TR News	Keep your Exif metadata private with this open source tool Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164052
[14:20]	TR Bot	 Keep your Exif metadata private with this open source tool | Tux Machines
[14:44]	TR News	Proprietary and Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164053
[14:44]	TR Bot	 Proprietary and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[14:44]	TR News	Free Software and Coding Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164054
[14:44]	TR Bot	 Free Software and Coding | Tux Machines
[14:44]	TR News	Open Hardware/Modding: RouterPi, PiStorm, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164055
[14:44]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding: RouterPi, PiStorm, and More | Tux Machines
[14:44]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164056
[14:44]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[14:47]	MinceR	23 092549 < matey> you want the thing thats most likely to be fixable in a few months or a year, go with the least bullshit option
[14:47]	MinceR	i don't even know what the least bullshit option is
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[14:50]	TR News	Links 23/04/2022: New Wine, Earthly Adopts Free Software | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/23/earthly-adopts-free-software/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/23/earthly-adopts-free-software/
[14:50]	TR Bot	 Links 23/04/2022: New Wine, Earthly Adopts Free Software | Techrights
[14:52]	TR News	Looks like there might be 2,500 Gemini capsule by end of May
[14:53]	DaemonFC	Okay, well, it seems like replacing the belt tensioner got rid of the screaming.
[14:54]	DaemonFC	But now I have a chirp chirp chirp that goes away when the belt gets warm.
[14:54]	DaemonFC	I don't think it's anything horrific, I just don't think people are making bels that have the kind of grip that Goodyear's Gatorback did.
[14:55]	DaemonFC	I shined a light in while it was running and didn't see anything that looked like it was wobbling around.
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[14:56]	DaemonFC	People complain about these 2008 Buicks making belt noise.
[14:58]	DaemonFC	https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dayco-poly-rib-belt-premium-engineered-to-conform-to-high-mileage-worn-or-misaligned-drives-5060905/3290151-P
[14:58]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: advanceautoparts.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dayco-poly-rib-belt-premium-engineered-to-conform-to-high-mileage-worn-or-misaligned-drives-5060905/3290151-P https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dayco-poly-rib-belt-premium-engineered-to-conform-to-high-mileage-worn-or-misaligned-drives-5060905/3290151-P
[14:58]	TR Bot	 Advance Auto Parts - Down for Maintenance
[14:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 361.10
[14:59]	DaemonFC	That's what I have on there now.
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[15:01]	DaemonFC	I went ahead and switched to DOT 4 brake fluid the other day while the system was being purged anyway.
[15:01]	DaemonFC	The brakes have been performing notably better since then.
[15:02]	DaemonFC	Hmm, interesting.
[15:03]	DaemonFC	On Fedora, Pipewire supports aptx, LDAC, and AAC as Bluetooth codecs. Debian doesn't.
[15:04]	DaemonFC	Debian 11 had this weird setup where it had Pipewire but it had Pulseaudio too.
[15:06]	TR News	Microsoft = Back Doors Inc. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/hive_ransomware_microsoft_exchange/
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[15:06]	TR Bot	 Hive ransomware affiliate zeros in on Exchange servers The Register
[15:07]	bnchs	lol
[15:07]	TR News	The LATEST form of greenwashing: our POLLUTION and our WASTE will keep you HOT.... in winter anyway https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/boston_bytesnet_datacenter_heat/
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[15:07]	TR Bot	 Plans for Dutch datacenter to warm thousands of homes The Register
[15:08]	bnchs	imagine using a proprietary program to selfhost your own email service
[15:08]	bnchs	microsoft software
[15:08]	TR News	Like Gulag Voice, it's about control and spying, even espionage https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/google_banning_thirdparty_callrecording_apps/
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[15:08]	TR Bot	 Google bans third-party call-recording apps from Play Store The Register
[15:11]	TR News	What Putin did here... other countries should do as well (for similar reasons) https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/zuckerberg_ban_russia/
[15:11]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/zuckerberg_ban_russia/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/zuckerberg_ban_russia/
[15:11]	TR Bot	 Putin reaches for nuclear option: Zuckerberg banned The Register
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[15:12]	TR News	Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/insteon_shutdown_explained/ they only had very, very dumb customers anyway...
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[15:12]	TR Bot	 Insteon's vanishing act explained: Smart home biz insolvent The Register
[15:13]	TR News	The next frontier: espionage using people's sensitive medical data? https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/nhs_ai_leader_joins_palantir/
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[15:13]	TR Bot	 Former NHS AI leader joins US spy-tech firm Palantir The Register
[15:16]	TR News	Microsoft admits ShitHub is NOT secure https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/github-stolen-oauth-tokens-used-in-breaches/ usually Microsoft blames the victims, the attacker, or both; NOT the platform http://techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/
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[15:16]	TR Bot	 What happened with GitHub, Heroku, and raided private repos? The Register
[15:16]	TR Bot	 GitHub is Microsofts Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonicals Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly Its Ubuntus Fault? | Techrights
[15:16]	DaemonFC	I wish I could find a Gatorback belt.
[15:17]	DaemonFC	Those things did shut up even the worst drive belt noise.
[15:17]	DaemonFC	I mean unless a pulley was actually so shot or misaligned that it was going to scream at you anyway.
[15:18]	DaemonFC	But some drive belt systems seem difficult to quiet down just by design and Gatorback belts seemed to stop minor belt chirp.
[15:18]	DaemonFC	Buick actually did do something with this drive belt system that seems odd to me.
[15:18]	TR News	Ubuntu 22.04 LTS arrives on everything from a 2GB Pi to AWS Graviton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164040#comment-33449
[15:18]	TR Bot	 KDE Gear 22.04, postmarketOS v21.12 SP4 and Organic Maps (maybe) | Tux Machines
[15:18]	DaemonFC	Odd in that not many cars are like this and odd in that it actually makes good engineering sense.
[15:19]	DaemonFC	Which is unusual in cars.
[15:19]	DaemonFC	The drive belt tensioner actually does the job of what would normally be the idler pulley as well.
[15:19]	TR News	Can Apple also blame this on "shortages" or "pandemic"? https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/macos_server_dead/
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[15:19]	TR Bot	 Apple finally kills off macOS server The Register
[15:20]	DaemonFC	Since they age and accumulate mileage together, it's a good idea to change out both at once if one of them is going bad, but some mechanics don't, or the customer just gets cheap, and then soon thereafter, the other one goes ahead and starts having a problem too.
[15:20]	DaemonFC	So by combining them into one unit, it means you have to replace both at once and it's only one part.
[15:20]	TR News	Charlatans, liars and frauds (Gartner) booster by The Register as if they're experts https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/oracle_contracts_pricing_gartner/ Gartner = paid shills. Should come under probe. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
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[15:20]	TR Bot	 Oracle contracts and pricing a 'challenge', says Gartner The Register
[15:20]	TR Bot	 Gartner Group - Techrights
[15:21]	DaemonFC	I suppose GM wasn't only considering reliability though. Losing the separate idler gets rid of weight, and therefore, the drive belt can also be shorter and lighter, and the drive belt system will operate with less parasitic loss to drag/friction.
[15:21]	DaemonFC	So fuel economy theoretically goes up a little.
[15:22]	TR News	Esperanto Technologies Massively Parallel RISC-V AI Inferencing Solution Now in Initial Evaluations - Esperanto Technologies https://www.esperanto.ai/News/esperanto-technologies-massively-parallel-risc-v-ai-inferencing-solution-now-in-initial-evaluations/ Source: esperanto
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[15:22]	TR Bot	 Esperanto Technologies Massively Parallel RISC-V AI Inferencing Solution Now in Initial Evaluations - Esperanto Technologies
[15:22]	DaemonFC	I know that GM at least used to give a nice bonus to anyone who could figure out how to ditch some weight from the vehicles they built.
[15:22]	DaemonFC	I've been averaging 19.65 mpg on the Buick so far mostly city, and the Impala was getting like 16-16.5.
[15:22]	DaemonFC	The Buick is a heavier car, even.
[15:23]	DaemonFC	The 2018 KIA Soul+ averaged like maybe 25 mpg for me.
[15:24]	DaemonFC	So that's actually not all that impressive considering the massive downgrade in quality, driving experience, and engine power and torque you get with the KIA.
[15:24]	DaemonFC	A 2 liter Inline 4 should get much better mpg than a GM 3800 V6 in a Buick that weighs like a KIA and a half.
[15:24]	DaemonFC	But, alas, it does not.
[15:26]	DaemonFC	My guess is that the power to weight ratio on the KIA is not optimal and the transmission (continuously variable) has to run the engine at higher RPMs to produce enough power to actually operate the vehicle responsively.
[15:26]	DaemonFC	And that's turning the thing into a gigantic pig on fuel economy for the class of vehicle it is.
[15:28]	DaemonFC	I hate CVTs, because if you ask too much out of them they usually just go ahead and die and it's really expensive to do a proper rebuild job.
[15:29]	DaemonFC	The Japanese companies have been doing CVTs for a lot longer than the American car companies have, and even then they're known for fairly weak transmissions that you have to baby.
[15:29]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/22/revil_ransomware_returns/
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[15:29]	TR Bot	 REvil resurrected? Ransomware crew appears to be back The Register
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[15:31]	TR News	""The term TraderTraitor describes a series of malicious applications written using cross-platform JavaScript code with the Node.js runtime environment using the Electron [bloatware]" https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/lazarus-targets-digital-assets/
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[15:31]	TR Bot	 US: North Korea's Lazarus targets cryptocurrency companies The Register
[15:33]	TR News	Gartner is being constantly booster The Register. Does gartner bribe publishers to legitimise the scam Gartner is? It's a racket!
[15:38]	TR News	Activists are most vulnerable to use of proprietary software https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/18/uk_catalan_spyware/
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[15:38]	TR Bot	 UK Prime Minister, Catalan groups 'targeted by NSO spyware' The Register
[15:39]	TR News	Aadhaar is really terrible. Graft and Stasi tactics. https://cag.gov.in/en/audit-report/download/116042
[15:40]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO: "all use Visual Basic Script (VBS) droppers with similar functions. They drop a VBScripts file, use Scheduled Tasks (shtasks.exe) to ensure persistence, and download code from a C2 server." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/shuckworm-attack-ukraine-symantec/
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[15:40]	TR Bot	 Russian-linked Shuckworm crew ups attacks on Ukraine The Register
[15:41]	TR News	Microsoft is synonymous with failure https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/space_force_quits/ that's why it need to BRIBE so much to survive http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323
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[15:41]	TR Bot	 Departing Air, Space Force official on Pentagon tech The Register
[15:41]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
[15:42]	TR News	UEFI is NOT for security https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/eset_lenovo/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI
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[15:42]	TR Bot	 ESET uncovers vulnerabilities in Lenovo laptops The Register
[15:42]	TR Bot	 UEFI - Techrights
[15:42]	TR News	The criminals from Microsoft are still eager to destroy the Web through courts https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/scraping_public_data_linkedin/
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[15:43]	TR Bot	 Scraping public data from the web is legal: US Ninth Circuit The Register
[15:44]	TR News	Clown computing does not mean reliability; it means data loss and loss of control over your systems' integrity and data https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/atlassian_ongoing_outage/
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[15:44]	TR Bot	 Atlassian comes clean on data-deleting script behind outage The Register
[15:45]	TR News	"The US Department of Defense is to construct and try out the largest 3D-printed buildings in the Americas: three barracks in a Lone Star army base." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/09/army_3d_barracks/
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[15:45]	TR Bot	 Army to build largest 3D-printed buildings in the US The Register
[15:47]	TR News	Lockdowns in China's capital https://finance.sina.com.cn/tech/2022-04-15/doc-imcwiwst1945909.shtml
[15:47]	TR Bot	 5|__
[15:48]	TR News	Vapourware: Committing to buzzwords and hype for greenwashing purposes... some time in a very distant future when Intel might not exist anymore https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/13/intel_net_zero_2040/
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[15:48]	TR Bot	 Intel commits to net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2040 The Register
[15:49]	TR News	Newer straw man arguments for dying economies? https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/11/volkswagen_expect_chip_supply_problems/
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[15:49]	TR Bot	 Volkswagen anticipates chip supply issues until 2024 The Register
[15:52]	TR News	IBM ordered to pay $105m to insurer over failed project - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/19/ibm_failed_project_payback/ Source: theregister
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[15:52]	TR Bot	 IBM ordered to pay $105m to insurer over failed project The Register
[15:54]	MinceR	http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/I-pay-therefor-I-am.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/11/i-pay-therefore-i-am/ )
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[15:54]	TR Bot	 I pay, therefore I am.
[15:54]	TR News	No wonder a lot of Red Hat staff, managers includes, flee the company https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/ibm_discovery_discrimination/
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[15:54]	TR Bot	 IBM 'not cooperating' with discovery in discrimination case The Register
[15:55]	TR News	Microsoft = criminals https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/valuelicensing_microsoft_court/ be suspicious of anyone who claims otherwise: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323
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[15:55]	TR Bot	 ValueLicensing case against Microsoft set to proceed in UK The Register
[15:57]	TR News	Puppet won't stay Free software (Ansible isn't either; ICBM controls it) https://puppet.com/blog/an-open-letter-from-the-ceo-of-puppet/
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[15:57]	TR Bot	Open Letter from the CEO of Puppet: Puppet + Perforce
[15:58]	TR News	Samsung overtakes Intel, chip market grew 26% in 2021 - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/samsung_dethrones_intel_gartner/ Source: theregister
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[15:58]	TR Bot	 Samsung overtakes Intel, chip market grew 26% in 2021 The Register
[15:58]	TR News	TSMCs chip empire keeps growing, despite ongoing shortages - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/tsmcs_chip_empire_keeps_growing/ Source: theregister
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[15:58]	TR Bot	 TSMCs chip empire keeps growing, despite ongoing shortages The Register
[15:59]	TR News	A fourteen-part publication about the EPO will be released tonight, starting with Part I and continuing on a daily basis http://techrights.org/2022/04/23/from-belarus-with-love/
[15:59]	TR Bot	 New EPO Series: From Belarus With Love Teaser | Techrights
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[16:00]	TR News	Industrial espionage of global scale and scope (applicants from all around the world) is made by possible by the EPO, which does not just outsource highly confidential data to the US (through Microsoft et al) but also to the bloc on the eastern front; EPO DPR is nothing but optics, just like the EPO's Ombuds service http://techrights.org/2022/04/23/epo-industrial-espionage-2022/
[16:00]	TR Bot	 [Meme] The Eastern Front (of Industrial Espionage) | Techrights
[16:00]	TR News	I've only just noticed that, as far as I'm aware for the first time ever, Android has more than 10% a gap over Windows in terms of market share. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164048
[16:00]	TR Bot	 Fallacy: Windows Has Majority Market Share (Operating System Market Share Worldwide) | Tux Machines
[16:01]	TR News	Lockdown and social controls https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/21/featured-and-established-publisher-badges-are-now-listed-on-the-chrome-web-store/
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[16:01]	TR Bot	 Featured and Established Publisher badges are now listed on the Chrome Web Store - gHacks Tech News
[16:02]	TR News	"The award is for a single contribution in a scientific publication, whether written by a single author or multiple authors." https://www.uwyo.edu/uw/news/2022/04/uw-postdoctoral-research-associate-to-receive-esas-cooper-award.html
[16:02]	TR Bot	 UW Postdoctoral Research Associate to Receive ESAs Cooper Award | News | University of Wyoming
[16:04]	TR News	Mostly BSD. Gentoo GNU/Linux mentioned also https://www.varinsights.com/doc/ixsystems-channel-embraces-truepartner-program-driving-revenue-matching-returns-x-0001
[16:04]	TR Bot	 iXsystems Channel Embraces TruePartner Program - Driving Revenue-Matching Returns Up To 3X
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[16:05]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-exchange-servers-hacked-to-deploy-hive-ransomware/
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[16:05]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Exchange servers hacked to deploy Hive ransomware
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[16:12]	TR News	Microsoft Black Duck focusing on minor flaws in GNU instead of back doors in Microsoft's stuff https://www.synopsys.com/blogs/software-security/cyrc-vulnerability-analysis-gzip/
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[16:12]	TR Bot	Vulnerability Analysis: CVE-2022-1271 in gzip | Synopsys
[16:14]	TR News	"Codasip, the leader in customizable RISC-V processor IP [sic], today announced it has appointed Jamie Broome as its new VP Automotive." https://www.realwire.com/releases/Codasip-appoints-Jaime-Broome-as-its-Automotive-VP
[16:14]	TR Bot	 Codasip appoints Jamie Broome as its Automotive VP
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[16:18]	TR News	Brian C. Lane Announces GNU Parted v3.5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163875#comment-33450
[16:18]	TR Bot	 parted-3.5 released [stable] | Tux Machines
[16:24]	TR News	Microsoft's Vista 11 has become SELF-satirising https://hackaday.com/2022/04/19/mobile-focused-windows-11-leaves-taskbar-stuck-along-the-bottom/
[16:24]	TR Bot	Windows 11 Leaves Taskbar Stuck Along The Bottom | Hackaday
[16:24]	TR News	Firefly EC-I3588J is a mini PC with a Rockchip RK3588 processor, up to 32GB of RAM and 8K video support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164057
[16:24]	TR Bot	 Firefly EC-I3588J is a mini PC with a Rockchip RK3588 processor, up to 32GB of RAM and 8K video support | Tux Machines
[16:32]	TR News	"When their personally owned vehicles are not in use, Saudi 'hosts' can now earn money by renting them out on the ekar platform." https://www.sme10x.com/10x-industry/ekar-launches-contactless-peer-to-peer-carshare-in-saudi-arabia they show a woman. How many women there can drive?
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[16:32]	TR Bot	 ekar launches contactless Peer-to-Peer carshare in Saudi Arabia
[16:32]	MinceR	 = 1 meter   = line   = noodle   http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/wait-outside-a-noodle.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/11/because-in-a-noodle-is-just-weird/ )
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[16:32]	TR Bot	 Because in a noodle is just weird
[16:37]	TR News	Firefly ROC-RK3588S-PC: First Rockchip RK3588S-based single-board computer introduced for US$219 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164057#comment-33451
[16:37]	TR Bot	 Firefly EC-I3588J is a mini PC with a Rockchip RK3588 processor, up to 32GB of RAM and 8K video support | Tux Machines
[16:45]	TR News	Random access memories: the ZX Spectrum at 40 and six of the best Speccy games | Stuff https://www.stuff.tv/features/random-access-memories-the-zx-spectrum-at-40-and-six-of-the-best-speccy-games/ Source: stuff
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[16:45]	TR Bot	 Random access memories: the ZX Spectrum at 40 and six of the best Speccy games | Stuff
[16:45]	TR News	iTWire - Canonical may go public in 2023, claims US$175m profit last year Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164058
[16:45]	TR Bot	 iTWire - Canonical may go public in 2023, claims US$175m profit last year | Tux Machines
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[16:53]	matey	hi
[16:53]	matey	MinceR   i don't even know what the least bullshit option is <- probably bsd, but (all jokes aside) it really does depend on your definition of bullshit
[16:54]	MinceR	which bsd
[16:54]	matey	there are other options besides bsd... most of them are more difficult
[16:54]	MinceR	and why
[16:54]	matey	 <MinceR> which bsd <- freebsd is the most microsoftian (other than that its not terrible)
[16:54]	matey	midnight signed the anti-rms letter
[16:55]	matey	(we start by narrowing it down you see)
[16:55]	matey	most flavours are based on github-- if i was content with that id have more options but no thanks
[16:55]	matey	if github didnt bother me id go easier on freebsd
[16:56]	matey	but most are even more github-based than freebsd, which "only" uses it for admin stuff (not code) and the package manager (i havent checked in a while though)
[16:56]	MinceR	(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/pyyq4yf
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[16:56]	matey	netbsd only uses github for donations... afaik
[16:56]	MinceR	"admin stuff" as in bug tracking? afaik that's more difficult to migrate off shithub than code
[16:57]	matey	netbsd has the most non-free stuff. if youre just starting out and want non-free drivers 
[16:57]	matey	i mean when i started with gnu/linux i wanted non-free drivers. the only reason i found out that most things worked pretty well (sometimes better) without them was trisquel made a version with the sugar platform
[16:58]	matey	at the time i was very interested in sugar, and it was because of sugar that i learned python (2009)
[16:58]	matey	it was because of sugar that i started using fully-free distros
[16:58]	matey	before python i was still trying to get by with qbasic and dosbox :)
[16:58]	matey	true story
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[16:59]	matey	of course id spent YEARS looking for an alternative
[16:59]	matey	sugar had a thing aimed at third years called "pippy"
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[17:00]	matey	it made python easy and accessible (which it is, but it doesnt always LOOK like it is-- also its not in python3, blech)
[17:00]	matey	some people learn python 3 anyway. masochism
[17:00]	matey	its nothing but ironpython ii, microsoft product
[17:01]	matey	they lie and say python 2 isnt supported, when pypy2 supports it (for my needs, and the needs of anyone who wants to use python but doesnt want the rust-like version)
[17:01]	matey	by "rust-like" i mean constantly reinventing itself like some kind of digital grifter or webapi.
[17:01]	matey	i have no use for python 3
[17:01]	matey	and pypy2 maintains its python2 compatibility, incomplete (but substantial) or otherwise.
[17:02]	matey	like ill take a maintained python 2 over a complete one that has unfixed security holes
[17:02]	matey	i only use the included libraries, and tkinter which is technically also included (needed for idle)
[17:03]	matey	38% of my file system is code, not including sgml
[17:03]	matey	if you include sgml, more than 70% of my files are code (not including the few things i installed or the many things that came with the system)
[17:04]	matey	so netbsd for non-free and sbcs, with the note that openbsd is WAY more free and netbsd has a fuck-awful installer
[17:04]	matey	and the note that these are starting points, not products
[17:05]	matey	to have a free software movement in the future, we have to start somewhere, and linux is only going to get worse
[17:05]	matey	when you start with that premise it makes things "easy"
[17:05]	matey	but i mean, maybe someone will fork linux. and maintain it.
[17:05]	matey	(but they wont)
[17:05]	matey	its the "maintain it" part i dont believe. you can fork it yourself.
[17:06]	matey	but then what, when people find holes youre going to fix them?
[17:06]	matey	you have a team of people working on that?
[17:06]	matey	its not impossible. its merely so unlikely that we would have to kid ourselves. but i could still be wrong.
[17:06]	matey	we see actual forks of bsd though-- proving that freedom 3 exists in practice, not only in theory
[17:07]	matey	openoffice was forkable, libreoffice exists
[17:07]	matey	but libreoffice decided that they would bloat it up until it was unforkable
[17:07]	matey	and theyre going to be in bed with collabora and gnome if theyre not already
[17:08]	matey	in other words openoffice is forkable but only because its team moved elsewhere
[17:08]	matey	and libreoffice probably isnt
[17:08]	matey	its too big (you can make your own jokes there)
[17:09]	matey	the larger a software package/suite is, the more complicated it is, obviously the larger or more talented (and/or wealthy as they can hire) a team needs to be to fork it
[17:09]	matey	gnu never gave a shit about that
[17:10]	matey	theyve built such a monstrosity (credit to gnu for being an order of magnitude smaller than llvm though) that nearly aims to be unforkable (this isnt about gpl)
[17:10]	matey	s/to gnu/to gcc/
[17:10]	matey	gcc is a monstrosity too, but not when you compare it to llvm
[17:10]	matey	so credit where credit is due
[17:11]	matey	of course its ibm gcc now :/ and microsoft llvm
[17:11]	matey	and if everybody sells out, TANGIBLE progress wont come until enough people are tired of it
[17:12]	matey	gnu says "you can help by using the software" but they dont say "you can help by forking the software into something easier to maintain"
[17:12]	matey	they want you to lift bricks onto the pyramid
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[17:13]	matey	until it falls down
[17:13]	matey	i used to make fun of freebasic (it was bait and switch) for the same thing
[17:13]	matey	i said they were building a jenga tower
[17:13]	matey	they started with the goal of compatibility. that was total bait and switch
[17:14]	matey	they got obsessed with c compatibility (to be fair they built it with c, but they wanted to externalise that more-- not really basic at all) and used thin bindings, making "basic" statements with like 16 parameters, are you kidding me?
[17:14]	matey	they just started stacking up features with no coherence at all
[17:14]	matey	it became a monstrosity
[17:15]	matey	and i said they had no plan, no goals, no coherence, and no loyalty to what they set out to do from the start
[17:15]	matey	this is how i found python. i spent the better part of a decade looking for the "basic" of the 21st century
[17:15]	matey	and python was closer to basic than most of the new versions of "basic" coming out
[17:16]	matey	they were even farther from the advantages of basic than python was.
[17:16]	matey	not everyone likes indentation. i solved that one personally.
[17:16]	matey	who wants to import math just to use sin()
[17:16]	matey	i solved that too
[17:17]	matey	but the aftermath of freebasic was
[17:17]	matey	i fled to qb64, then to python
[17:18]	matey	years later, the fb authors are telling people "you probably want python" and freebasic is "more of an art project"
[17:18]	matey	you know what happens to every new basic language? every single one?
[17:18]	matey	it becomes a game development platform. which is okay
[17:18]	matey	unless you want to make utilities with it.
[17:18]	matey	or make something simple (which is what basic is all about)
[17:19]	matey	gnu is doing similar. its one thing to have packages that are too complex for most mortals to work on.
[17:19]	matey	i dont want a dumbed down encryption package
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[17:19]	matey	sorry wallace, you were contributing to much to the conversation
[17:19]	matey	maybe go watch yu-gi-oh or something
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[17:21]	matey	https://youtube.com for all your entertainment needs
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[17:23]	matey	the first step has to be deciding if you want control of your computing or not
[17:23]	matey	because if you dont, there will be people lined up to take care of that for you (and at your expense)
[17:23]	matey	and if you do... its going to be more work (at the outset at least)
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[17:24]	matey	but if you insist on simple designs, those will be more stable than jenga towers 
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[17:24]	matey	more maintainable, more forkable
[17:24]	matey	even easier to rebuild if some idiot destroys something
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[17:25]	matey	so thats my definition of non-bullshit-- whatever creates a solid foundation that puts the user in control
[17:26]	activelow	the least-bullshit option begins with a no-c++/c-only system
[17:26]	matey	and can be maintained as such. i dont think "linux" will ever offer that, so i try not to use it (and thats going well)
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[17:26]	activelow	this excludes modern *BSD variants already
[17:26]	matey	<activelow> the least-bullshit option begins with a no-c++/c-only system <- thats a VERY specific definition of "least-bullshit" though
[17:26]	matey	so specific its more of an example than a definition
[17:27]	matey	its least bullshit for YOU
[17:27]	activelow	it is no coincidence, downgrading to gcc-4.7, wiping c++ compiler, and removing all dependencies against c++ exactly accomplishes this
[17:27]	activelow	the closest to what a least-bullshit system could be
[17:27]	matey	heres what i like about activelows approach: it DOES cut out a lot of bullshit
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[17:27]	activelow	almost all of it
[17:28]	matey	it demonstrates the idea of removing things that get in the way 
[17:28]	matey	yes it removes nearly everything (as would cutting out github)
[17:28]	activelow	the useful unix stuff is available
[17:28]	matey	and its easier to build, because its targets are very lightweight
[17:28]	matey	so i like all of that as a concept
[17:29]	matey	and im not joking
[17:29]	activelow	some time ago, c++ dependencies began attaching to man pages
[17:29]	matey	how did they attach to man pages
[17:29]	activelow	had to dig into the archives, to recover a no-c++ man page reader
[17:29]	activelow	an indirect dependency
[17:30]	matey	so i think the idea of c++ creep is worth looking at 
[17:30]	matey	theres no good reason c++ should take over every c program
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[17:30]	matey	whether that leads me to the same conclusion as you is to be determined but i suspect it wont
[17:30]	matey	what i DO agree with though
[17:30]	activelow	on gentoo it is sys-apps/man-db which requires groff, and groff requires c++ iirc
[17:30]	matey	is that IF we can demonstate the creep of c++ into everything
[17:31]	matey	as a requirement rather than an option
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[17:31]	matey	i think thats probably not good and we OUGHT to fight that
[17:31]	matey	im not sure if i would boycott c++ fully like you do, i dont think c++ is that bad
[17:31]	activelow	it is an attack against unix, i do not want no c++ compiler/dependency to read and author man pages with unix
[17:31]	matey	but replacing everything c with c++ would be terribly unfortunate
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[17:31]	activelow	c++ is far worse than you think
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[17:32]	matey	at any rate...
[17:32]	matey	the more that c++ takes over (and i want a second opinion on this)
[17:32]	matey	(and a third and fourth and fifth)
[17:32]	activelow	not (only) because of the language itself, because of the compiler requirements, and c++ creeping into where it does not belong
[17:32]	matey	the more it makes sense to promote c as a c++ alternative
[17:32]	matey	NOT beacuse every langauge deserves that sort of defence
[17:33]	gooseheaded	lol i was banned from freenode they reckon i was telling all of the opers that i was going to kill them.
[17:33]	gooseheaded	hahaha
[17:33]	matey	but because a takeover of c by c++ is a step away from sanity
[17:33]	gooseheaded	i didn't do that, at all...
[17:33]	matey	i didn't do that, at all... <- its been a long time since freenode did things based on reality
[17:33]	matey	id say years
[17:33]	gooseheaded	LOL!
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[17:34]	activelow	anyway, app-text/mandoc does not require any c++ dependency
[17:34]	SomeH4x0r	matey says Libera.Chat (and former freenode too) is evil
[17:34]	gooseheaded	yes it is...
[17:34]	gooseheaded	haha hi SomeH4x0r.
[17:34]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[17:34]	matey	i mean if you like reddit, youll love lie-bera
[17:34]	gooseheaded	LOL
[17:34]	matey	theyll ban you just for defending an innnocent person
[17:34]	gooseheaded	reddit has sucked since 2010...
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[17:34]	activelow	matey: and that's why it is necessary to fully remove c++/compiler/dependencies, to track down every single component which was attacked
[17:34]	gooseheaded	i stopped using it in 2009....
[17:34]	activelow	including unix man pages
[17:34]	matey	and that's why it is necessary to fully remove c++/compiler/dependencies <- im not sure it is necessary
[17:35]	matey	however...
[17:35]	matey	once again, IF c is being taken over by c++
[17:35]	matey	then fighting that doesnt sound stupid to me.
[17:35]	matey	so fighting it is good
[17:35]	activelow	matey: were you aware, to read man pages, your system requires a clusterf**d c++ compiler suite of dozens of milions of lines of code?
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[17:35]	matey	how its fought, i expect that to vary according to peoples needs. but a real fight is better than a fake one
[17:36]	matey	<activelow> matey: were you aware, to read man pages, your system requires a clusterf**d c++ compiler suite <- i was not, and i am not
[17:36]	matey	however, you are the local expert on this. that isnt a joke.
[17:36]	matey	as i try to avoid github, you try to avoid c++
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[17:36]	matey	im not yet convinced c++ is taking over nearly to the extent that github has
[17:36]	matey	though it sounds like youve found something worth fighting perhaps
[17:37]	matey	even if im not sure killing all c++ is the solution 
[17:37]	activelow	wrong, the c++ attack against unix is far worse than github
[17:37]	matey	absolutely, promoting c and reducing c++ sounds like a good idea
[17:37]	matey	also youve made me interested in how much boost is required for c++ itself
[17:37]	matey	as boost is github-based, so theres overlap there
[17:37]	matey	wrong, the c++ attack against unix is far worse than github <- you are too confident
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[17:38]	SomeH4x0r	gooseheaded: I did recently try to make a post on Reddit. See the amount of comments listed and count them yourself. Given up on r/defcongame, at least for now.
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[17:38]	matey	we have both done loads of research, and any real scientist knows they could always be wrong.
[17:38]	activelow	that's not a personal issue of mine matey, it is a fact
[17:38]	SomeH4x0r	I will send the links now
[17:38]	gooseheaded	i see.
[17:38]	gooseheaded	okay
[17:38]	gooseheaded	wow
[17:38]	gooseheaded	lol
[17:38]	SomeH4x0r	gooseface, matey: https://old.reddit.com/r/uplink/comments/tsqeiv/uplink_removed_from_ios_appstore/ https://old.reddit.com/r/defcongame/comments/tugd89/will_there_be_a_defcon_2/
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[17:39]	goose	i like this nick better...
[17:39]	matey	nonetheless, i see what youre doing as a kind of activism, and there are some good lessons in it.
[17:39]	matey	lessons i wish more people would consider
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[17:40]	SomeH4x0r	15 comments, while you see only four
[17:40]	activelow	i am not a political activist, i only reject bad quality software, with or without GPL smeared onto, and regardless if GNU/FSF endorse bad quality software
[17:40]	matey	similar for the web, even if we dont kill it off
[17:40]	MinceR	23 183244 < matey> the more it makes sense to promote c as a c++ alternative
[17:40]	matey	using gemini as a tool for reducing our need for the web at all is a good thing
[17:40]	MinceR	c is not really an alternative to c++
[17:40]	MinceR	it has none of the tools for managing large codebases that c++ offers
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[17:40]	activelow	not to mention, most of the MS IBM Wintel software is awful quality too, short-lived, unstable, buggy
[17:40]	MinceR	no namespaces, no OOP, no lambda functions
[17:41]	matey	 <MinceR> c is not really an alternative to c++ <- context though. the context of my statement specifically regards things already done with c, which activelow claims have been taken over by c++. IN THAT CONTEXT c already was a viable alternative to c++
[17:41]	MinceR	hopefully c++ will have module support soon, c will never have that
[17:41]	matey	just as not-systemd is an alternative to the things systemd has taken over
[17:41]	matey	this starts with the premise that activelow is correct...
[17:41]	activelow	MinceR: the bloated code base is the problem, not C language
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[17:41]	MinceR	i've seen people trying to do oop in C, it was an undebuggable mess
[17:42]	matey	 <MinceR> i've seen people trying to do oop in C, it was an undebuggable mess <- the problem there is oop as a sort of new testament to c
[17:42]	psydroid2	why isn't C compatibility simply abandoned at this point in time?
[17:42]	activelow	furthermore my criticism isn't c++ language itself, i reject C++ creeping into where it does _not_ belong: critical base system components
[17:42]	MinceR	no, it's not a new testament
[17:42]	matey	imo most projects DONT need oop, but its promoted as a cure-all by people working on projects that actually benefit from oop
[17:42]	psydroid2	just make them 2 languages, C and C++
[17:42]	MinceR	it's a tool
[17:42]	MinceR	they already are 2 languages
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[17:43]	matey	<MinceR> it's a tool <- again, context. im not against oop outright. i use python ffs
[17:43]	matey	im against the nutters who say oop for everything
[17:43]	matey	and ive dealt with them for years
[17:43]	psydroid2	C for activelow and C++ for the rest of mankind
[17:43]	MinceR	those nutters should use java
[17:43]	matey	indeed!
[17:43]	MinceR	java enforces oop, c++ does not
[17:43]	matey	except that no one should use java :/ 
[17:43]	MinceR	or they should use smalltalk, if they can understand it
[17:44]	matey	my attitude towards java is similar to activelows attitude towards c++
[17:44]	matey	except that i dont think its as much of a threat (unless you use android)
[17:44]	matey	and kotlin is java, i dont distinguish between them. same problem, different language
[17:44]	MinceR	different language, same platform vm
[17:44]	MinceR	or rather, same virtual platform
[17:44]	matey	smalltalk is a cool language. i have no use for it. but its arguably the only good implementation of oop ever (even if thats not really true)
[17:45]	TR News	Proprietary software always prevents you getting a decent experience because upselling (other platform, new version etc.) is the perpetual objective https://www.guidingtech.com/best-fixes-for-microsoft-word-not-working-on-mac/
[17:45]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.guidingtech.com/best-fixes-for-microsoft-word-not-working-on-mac/ )
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[17:45]	MinceR	it's cool but i prefer lisp
[17:45]	activelow	with Java you need to distinguish which version i think, and the libraries/frameworks involved
[17:45]	matey	 same platform vm <- close enough imo. of course this isnt science talking.
[17:45]	matey	with lisp, i avoid guile
[17:45]	matey	wont touch it
[17:45]	matey	wont even let it run on my machine
[17:45]	matey	many other lisps out there
[17:45]	activelow	and early java-1.4/1.5 with a sane choice of libraries isn't a bad choice for an interpreted language
[17:46]	matey	i dont know how accurate it is to lump lisp and scheme together
[17:46]	TR News	Sounds like a form of "positive" racial discrimination to me https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/04/19/2424558/0/en/Lendistry-SBLC-LLC-Becomes-Nation-s-Only-African-American-Led-SBA-Small-Business-Lending-Company.html
[17:46]	TR Bot	 Lendistry SBLC, LLC Becomes Nation's Only African
[17:46]	matey	im not a lisper
[17:46]	matey	lisp at least, matters
[17:46]	matey	if someone can scheme in a way thats free without guile, i have nothing against that
[17:46]	matey	i wont allow guile at all
[17:46]	TR News	Free Licenses https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/open-licenses-an-overview-of-open-4384217/
[17:46]	TR Bot	Licenses: An Overview of Open Licenses for Images, Photos, Videos, and Software | Goodwin - JDSupra
[17:46]	MinceR	scheme is a lisp dialect
[17:46]	MinceR	common lisp is another lisp dialect
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[17:46]	matey	<MinceR> scheme is a lisp dialect <- my impression was similar 
[17:46]	matey	thanks for clarifying that
[17:47]	activelow	i blacklisted java nowadays; shell, perl and python are the only script interpreters i accept; lisp/scheme is another topic
[17:47]	matey	 <activelow> i blacklisted java nowadays <- so have i
[17:47]	matey	for years really
[17:47]	matey	there are a couple things done with java i think are really cool
[17:47]	matey	but imo its better to just avoid java altogether
[17:48]	activelow	yes
[17:48]	matey	my fork of the fsd removes everything java
[17:48]	matey	except fdroid... 
[17:48]	activelow	fsd?
[17:48]	TR News	It is important to correct/rectify discrimination in sectors that are racist and exclusionary. Responding to exclusionary tactics with opposite exclusionary tactics begets polarity and division. Like gender segregation in the religions.
[17:48]	matey	the fsf free software directory
[17:48]	matey	and its 10,000 to 30,000 to 50,000 entries
[17:48]	matey	(i tried counting them, i downloaded all of them)
[17:48]	matey	there are a lot of duplicates
[17:49]	matey	they stopped counting too.
[17:49]	TR News	I'd suggest not using the word "Only"; it would only inflame division https://www.streetinsider.com/Globe+Newswire/Lendistry+SBLC%2C+LLC+Becomes+Nations+Only+African+American-Led+SBA+Small+Business+Lending+Company/19927802.html
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[17:49]	TR Bot	 Lendistry SBLC, LLC Becomes Nation's Only African American-Led SBA Small Business Lending Company
[17:49]	activelow	my package set including desktop components is 800 packages now, which is pretty much the maximum i will ever hit
[17:49]	matey	i removed 90% of github-based stuff
[17:49]	matey	and 99% of java-based stuff
[17:49]	matey	and 85% of gnome 
[17:50]	matey	im interested in being able to track free software itself
[17:50]	matey	minus any shit i wouldnt saddle anyone in the world with
[17:50]	TR News	Events with "no men allow" policies only inflame the toxic shits who use terms like "feminazis". Don't help them by falling into this trap...
[17:50]	matey	a goal is to include dependencies
[17:51]	matey	ive already found alternatives to nano and microsoft gnu less via this project
[17:51]	matey	i spent a year trying to find a less alternative
[17:51]	matey	jed works as an alternative
[17:52]	activelow	i removed 100% of it, gnome/gtk/qt; and i'll fight tooth and nail none of this ever creeps into my tree
[17:52]	matey	but so does most (same author) and its closer to less in features
[17:52]	matey	i already have a graphical alternative to less, i use it almost every day
[17:52]	matey	pipe anything | graphicless
[17:52]	matey	but for the vt or term, most is great
[17:52]	matey	less is github-based, so fuck that. even if its gnu
[17:53]	matey	sellout
[17:53]	matey	"give us money so we can fight for microsofts freedom!" yeah, fuck that 
[17:53]	matey	fuck that so hard
[17:53]	matey	i removed 100% of it, gnome/gtk/qt <- this is a goal for me too, but 
[17:54]	matey	with gtk im doing that piece by piece
[17:54]	matey	with gtk4 i wont use more than 3 applications that need it
[17:54]	TR News	See headline update. False news. https://www.androidpolice.com/steam-on-chrome-os-explainer-mods/
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[17:54]	matey	with gtk3 its close to that
[17:54]	TR Bot	 Steam on Chrome OS explainer dashes hopes of easy modding (Update: Maybe not)
[17:54]	matey	if mate wasnt on github that would be a good alternative
[17:55]	matey	but for now, i need a browser that fully supports js, even if i disable it for most websites (and avoid most websites that require it)
[17:55]	matey	the earliest i could be js free is probably 2027 and its not my highest priority
[17:55]	activelow	mate desktop?
[17:56]	TR News	Tinkering & Coding with the CrowPi2 Laptop by Elecrow [Review] https://techacute.com/crowpi2-laptop-review/ Source: techacute
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[17:56]	TR Bot	 Tinkering & Coding with the CrowPi2 Laptop by Elecrow [Review]
[17:57]	TR News	PS4/PS5 security: hacker TheFloW gets another $10000 bounty from PlayStation. Why we think it matters - Wololo.net https://wololo.net/2022/04/18/ps4-ps5-security-hacker-theflow-gets-another-10000-bounty-from-playstation-why-we-think-it-matters/ Source: wololo
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[17:57]	TR Bot	security: hacker TheFloW gets another $10'000 bounty from PlayStation. Why we think it matters - Wololo.net
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[17:59]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.govinfosecurity.com/hhs-hc3-warns-healthcare-sector-hive-threats-a-18920
[17:59]	TR Bot	 HHS HC3 Warns Healthcare Sector of Hive Threats
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[18:03]	matey	http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/features-harmful/
[18:03]	TR Bot	 Features Considered Harmful (Revised) | Techrights
[18:04]	TR News	"Now I seem mostly OK but still have a lack of energy, sometimes I suddenly feel tired after 20 minutes of computer work." https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/04/23/got-covid/
[18:04]	matey	"Candy is nice, and some features are nice too. But we would all be better off if we could get the candy safely, and delete the creepy horrible van that comes with it. Thats true whether the creepy van is GitHub, or surveillance by GIAFAM, or a Leviathan init system, or just breaking decades of perfectly good Python code"
[18:04]	TR Bot	 Got Covid etbe - Russell Coker
[18:05]	matey	dont get in the van!
[18:06]	matey	/me makes activelow a remix of his van with "features" painted on the side in read so it says "free c++"
[18:06]	matey	https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/free-candy-van
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[18:06]	TR Bot	 Free Candy Van | Know Your Meme
[18:08]	TR News	"For Covid I had a runny nose for a couple of days which went away then I got congestion in my throat with serious coughing such that I became unable to speak. Then the coughing went away and I had a really bad headache for a day with almost no other symptoms. Then the headache went away and I was coughing a bit the next day. The symptoms seemed to be moving around my body." https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/04/23/got-covid/
[18:08]	matey	it would be great to have more people making ______-free operating systems to demonstrate whats possible without ________
[18:09]	bnchs	freedom
[18:09]	bnchs	proprietary software
[18:09]	matey	ha
[18:09]	matey	i think we have enough freedom-free operating systems already
[18:10]	bnchs	free from freedom
[18:10]	matey	android is MOSTLY freedom-free
[18:10]	matey	flatpak brings that to the desktop (yay!)
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[18:15]	SomeH4x0r	what does Flatpak do?
[18:15]	SomeH4x0r	if it does sandboxing like on Android, isn't it good?
[18:16]	TR News	Are they developers? Or Microsoft drones? :-) https://www.makeuseof.com/ides-text-editors-best-c-sharp-development/
[18:16]	TR Bot	 The 7 Best IDEs and Text Editors for C# Developers
[18:16]	matey	if it does sandboxing like on Android, isn't it good? <- depends
[18:16]	SomeH4x0r	why should malware be able to access whatever aside system files (most important stuff is at /home)
[18:16]	matey	wrong question
[18:16]	matey	theres nothing wrong with that feature as an option
[18:16]	matey	the problem is that flatpak is designed in a way that basically fucks most users out of tinkering
[18:17]	matey	or easily fixing things they could easily fix before
[18:17]	matey	you should be able to turn it OFF
[18:17]	matey	or unprotect things (users option)
[18:17]	SomeH4x0r	https://xkcd.com/1200/ - like this, except like any program gets this access afaik
[18:17]	TR Bot	Authorization
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[18:17]	matey	i wouldnt know
[18:18]	matey	what i do know is ive tried flatpak-based operating systems
[18:18]	matey	and theyre a very bad step
[18:18]	matey	not because of that feature
[18:18]	matey	but because of the way its foisted on the user
[18:18]	matey	and proponents will say its the only way it can be done
[18:18]	matey	if so, it shouldnt be done at all.
[18:19]	matey	theyve actually said this to me
[18:19]	bnchs	lol thats an obvious lie
[18:19]	bnchs	just like how systemd is the only way it can be done
[18:19]	matey	the two seem to be in bed, but i dont know that for certain
[18:19]	matey	at any rate, i wont touch flatpack. there are other ways to do sandboxing
[18:20]	matey	openbsd and freebsd have saner ways to do it
[18:20]	matey	and they dont trigger my ire or scepticism
[18:20]	matey	not even when freebsd does it
[18:20]	activelow	this is how i did it: i removed init system entirely, systemd/sysvinit/openrc/udev ... all of it wiped
[18:20]	matey	i removed init system entirely <- heh
[18:20]	activelow	pid1=/bin/sh
[18:20]	activelow	while true ; do /usr/bin/setsid -w /sbin/mingetty --nohostname tty1 ; sleep 1 ;
[18:20]	activelow	done
[18:21]	activelow	that's pretty much all that's necessary to respawn gettys (which is the main thing sysvinit really had to do)
[18:21]	matey	how to implement a new init without fucking your users: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pjHDvO_haQY
[18:21]	TR Bot	 OpenBSD rc.d(8) - Invidious
[18:21]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164059
[18:21]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[18:21]	matey	this sort of thing gets huge points from me
[18:22]	matey	rms should watch it, but he wont get the point
[18:22]	matey	not that hes stupid
[18:22]	activelow	this is sbin/shutdown.sh: echo s >/proc/sysrq-trigger ; echo u >/proc/sysrq-trigger ; echo o >/proc/sysrq-trigger
[18:22]	matey	he just not interested
[18:22]	matey	the openbsd version of rc. d was implemented in a way that really fucks no one
[18:23]	activelow	two lines of shell script replacing the entire init system, lol
[18:23]	matey	remember when people used to do that?
[18:23]	matey	two lines of shell script replacing the entire init system, lol <- its a good place to start. the next step is to making an init system for people who need one
[18:23]	matey	and so it doesnt foist itself on people who dont
[18:23]	activelow	nonetheless, openbsd still uses an /sbin/init to respawn gettys, which isn't bad, yet i wanted to get rid of it
[18:23]	matey	not your job. but someone would do it of course
[18:24]	matey	yeah openbsd isnt out to MAKE people do things
[18:24]	matey	its not a product, its research
[18:24]	matey	that doesnt make it the answer to everything, but its a good place to start
[18:24]	matey	baph makes c++ optional :)
[18:24]	matey	so thats fun
[18:25]	matey	if more people made _________ optional it might become, you know, a think
[18:25]	matey	thing
[18:25]	matey	it might become another typo
[18:26]	matey	The freedom to NOT run the software, to be free to avoid vendor lock-in through appropriate modularization/encapsulation and minimized dependencies; meaning any free software can be replaced with a users preferred alternatives (freedom 4).
[18:26]	matey	peter boughton
[18:27]	matey	freedom 4 (the fifth freedom) is worth fighting for, because it was an intrinsic feature of unix (and thus gnu)
[18:27]	matey	gnu never adopted that however
[18:27]	matey	which is why gnu is falling apart
[18:28]	matey	gnu literally never cared about the benefits of that which made it easier to create gnu in the first place
[18:28]	matey	rms has clarified, he does not care about this
[18:28]	matey	its not a slander, its the truth
[18:28]	matey	and because he doesnt care about it, neither does gnu
[18:28]	matey	and because gnu doesnt care about it, they start with freedom 3 and actually work to destroy it
[18:28]	matey	not intentionally. just by design.
[18:29]	matey	design choices dont always do things that the designers actually want
[18:29]	matey	they want freedom 3, they get bloat and takeover instead
[18:29]	matey	its not like no one warned them
[18:29]	matey	they just didnt care
[18:30]	matey	to fix that, people have to care about freedom 4
[18:30]	matey	or repeat the mistake 
[18:30]	matey	i dont know of any system that does a better job of freedom 4 than openbsd
[18:30]	matey	i would love to see some competition though. right now, the closest thing to that is baphomet os.
[18:31]	matey	i mean there are some great ideas there
[18:31]	matey	thats the truth
[18:31]	matey	people should at least consider them, even if they only fully implement the same (i wouldnt personally implement the same)
[18:32]	matey	this is what i mean by valuable research
[18:32]	matey	i expect some of it will be debunked though
[18:32]	matey	some
[18:32]	matey	im happy to see it challenged. but it should also be considered.
[18:33]	matey	 even if they only fully implement the same <- even if they dont fully implement the same
[18:33]	TR News	Apple makes like harder https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/invisible-files-and-apples-finder-tar-rsync-and-gnu-tar.2342670/
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[18:33]	TR Bot	 Invisible files and Apple's Finder, tar, rsync, and GNU tar | MacRumors Forums
[18:34]	TR News	How an Army of Volunteers Has Welcomed Immigrants in PolandAfter the Government Wouldnt - Mother Jones https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/04/army-of-volunteers-welcoming-ukrainian-immigrants-in-poland/ Source: motherjones
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[18:34]	TR Bot	 How an Army of Volunteers Has Welcomed Immigrants in PolandAfter the Government Wouldnt Mother Jones
[18:36]	TR News	"The early licensing models for open source were authored from an ethical viewpoint focussed on creating and maintaining software freedoms." https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/ethics-of-open-source-software-licensing-3649684/
[18:36]	TR Bot	of Open Source Software Licensing | Escrow London - JDSupra
[18:36]	TR News	When you fire your CEO: "XRAY shares were down more than 13% to $42.20 apiece by todays close of trading." https://www.massdevice.com/dentsply-sirona-sacks-ceo/
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[18:36]	TR Bot	Sirona sacks its CEO | MassDevice
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[18:37]	TR News	Just let them work from home https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/04/21/companies-byod-approach/
[18:37]	TR Bot	 60% of BYOD companies face serious security risks - Help Net Security
[18:39]	TR News	Forrester = paid-to-say shill/lobby https://www.technewsworld.com/story/forrester-predicts-net-loss-of-1-42-million-us-jobs-to-automation-by-2032-87461.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/Forrester
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[18:39]	TR Bot	Predicts Net Loss of 1.42 Million US Jobs to Automation by 2032 | TechNewsWorld
[18:39]	TR Bot	 Forrester - Techrights
[18:39]	TR News	What's a higher priority? https://phys.org/news/2022-04-covid-pandemic-impacted-tourism-antarctica.html
[18:39]	TR Bot	 The COVID-19 pandemic impacted research and tourism, even in Antarctica
[18:40]	TR News	Providing "HEY HI!" https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/fujitsu_to_provide_hpc_ai/
[18:40]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/fujitsu_to_provide_hpc_ai/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/fujitsu_to_provide_hpc_ai/
[18:40]	TR Bot	 Fujitsu to provide HPC for efforts to produce clean ammonia The Register
[18:41]	TR News	KDE Frameworks Barcode Scanner Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164060
[18:41]	TR Bot	 KDE Frameworks Barcode Scanner | Tux Machines
[18:41]	TR News	Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux - Linux Commands - Appendix Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164061
[18:41]	TR Bot	 Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux - Linux Commands - Appendix | Tux Machines
[18:42]	TR News	openmamba 20220423 is out https://openmamba.org/en/
[18:42]	TR Bot	 openmamba
[18:44]	TR News	Wayland still unready POS, even a decade later https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-22.04-NVIDIA-XOrg-Back ICBM, quit breaking what works. "Modern" means "sells more support contracts"?
[18:44]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-22.04-NVIDIA-XOrg-Back https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-22.04-NVIDIA-XOrg-Back
[18:44]	TR Bot	22.04 LTS Changes Default For NVIDIA Driver Back To Using X.Org Rather Than Wayland - Phoronix
[18:45]	TR News	[pull] amdgpu, amdkfd, radeon drm-next-5.19 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2022-April/352432.html Source: amd
[18:45]	TR Bot	 [pull] amdgpu, amdkfd, radeon drm-next-5.19
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[18:46]	TR News	Dirk Hohndel turned from coding to openwashing, even for GPL violators and anti-Linux FUD vendors like VMware https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/04/23/0611251/dirk-hohndel-early-linux-contributor-joins-foundation-supporting-blockchain-platform-cardano
[18:46]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/04/23/0611251/dirk-hohndel-early-linux-contributor-joins-foundation-supporting-blockchain-platform-cardano https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/04/23/0611251/dirk-hohndel-early-linux-contributor-joins-foundation-supporting-blockchain-platform-cardano
[18:46]	TR Bot	 Dirk Hohndel, Early Linux Contributor, Joins Foundation Supporting Blockchain Platform Cardano - Slashdot
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[18:48]	TR News	"Sponsored Feature." Timothy Prickett Morgan, longtime IBM shill, has turned to stenography https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/04/23/wanted-a-complete-and-heavily-customizable-hpc-software-stack/
[18:48]	TR Bot	 Wanted: A Complete And Heavily Customizable HPC Software Stack
[18:48]	TR News	"Sponsored by Intel." = we have lots of money, so we literally buy the media to make ourselves seem advanced, important, popular
[18:48]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164062
[18:48]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[18:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 52.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 369.31
● Apr 23
[19:00]	XRevan86	matey: https://t.me/smirusnews/8001 they're still giving away books.
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Telegram: Contact @smirusnews
[19:00]	XRevan86	Not only 1984 but also We.
[19:02]	AdmFubar	https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10408-4
[19:02]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: nature.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10408-4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10408-4
[19:02]	TR Bot	 Drone routing problem model for last-mile delivery using the public transportation capacity as moving charging stations | Scientific Reports
[19:11]	MinceR	afaik flatpak fails at sandboxing
[19:13]	matey	 <XRevan86> matey: https://t.me/smirusnews/8001 they're still giving away books. <- good!
[19:13]	matey	 <MinceR> afaik flatpak fails at sandboxing <- where it fails at its purported goal it succeeds at bloat and lockin
[19:13]	matey	a bit like its bastard cousin systemd
[19:13]	matey	<XRevan86> Not only 1984 but also We. <- um, "we"
[19:14]	matey	we by whom (please dont say its by "us")
[19:14]	XRevan86	matey: By Zamyatin :)
[19:14]	matey	ahh, its good i take it?
[19:14]	matey	(and is there a reasonable english translation that can be pirated, i mean found online)
[19:15]	matey	(maybe its in the public domain, that would be cool)
[19:16]	XRevan86	matey: When I read it I wasn't really ready for it, I need to revisit it.
[19:16]	XRevan86	It's not long.
[19:17]	XRevan86	matey: It's in public domain, but the translations wouldn't be.
[19:18]	XRevan86	https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/We_(Zilboorg_translation) unless
[19:18]	TR Bot	 We (Zilboorg translation) - Wikisource, the free online library
[19:19]	XRevan86	matey: Wikisource allows downloading in .epub, so that's maximum convinience :)
[19:21]	activelow	flatpak is a _binary_ distribution mechanism, and this type of "free software" distribution method, as binary, was "innovated" long before by others
[19:22]	matey	 <XRevan86> matey: Wikisource allows downloading in .epub, so that's maximum convinience <- sweet
[19:22]	matey	thank you 
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[19:24]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/04/23/mediazona-russian-publishing-house-asks-employees-to-remove-mentions-of-ukraine-from-schoolbooks-news "Russian publishing house asks employees to remove mentions of Ukraine from schoolbooks"
[19:24]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: novayagazeta.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/04/23/mediazona-russian-publishing-house-asks-employees-to-remove-mentions-of-ukraine-from-schoolbooks-news https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/04/23/mediazona-russian-publishing-house-asks-employees-to-remove-mentions-of-ukraine-from-schoolbooks-news
[19:24]	TR Bot	. - novayagazeta.eu
[19:27]	XRevan86	https://nitter.eu/JuliaDavisNews/status/1517716655731875841 Time to make some threats.
[19:27]	TR Bot	 Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Appearing on Kremlin-controlled state TV, Russian lawmaker had some choice words and nuclear threats for Great Britain and Prime Minister Boris Johnson." | nitter
[19:29]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/04/23/at-least-five-people-killed-in-russian-missile-strike-on-ukraines-odesa-news "At least five people killed, including a three-month-old baby, in Russian missile strike on Ukraines Odessa" (newer information is that there are at least 8).
[19:29]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: novayagazeta.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/04/23/at-least-five-people-killed-in-russian-missile-strike-on-ukraines-odesa-news https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/04/23/at-least-five-people-killed-in-russian-missile-strike-on-ukraines-odesa-news
[19:29]	TR Bot	. - novayagazeta.eu
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[19:39]	TR News	[git pull] Input updates for v5.18-rc3 - Dmitry Torokhov https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YmOEuZ11On7T7Gbe@google.com/ Source: kernel
[19:39]	TR Bot	 [git pull] Input updates for v5.18-rc3 - Dmitry Torokhov
[19:39]	TR News	CrowPi2 and RISC-V Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164063
[19:39]	TR Bot	 CrowPi2 and RISC-V | Tux Machines
[19:40]	TR News	Not the best time for non-essential travel? https://blog.shadura.me/2022/04/23/england-by-train-part-2/
[19:40]	TR Bot	 To England by train (part 2) Andrejs notes
[19:42]	TR News	GNU Parallel 20220422 () released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164064
[19:42]	TR Bot	 GNU Parallel 20220422 ('') released | Tux Machines
[19:43]	SomeH4x0r	political brainwashing?
[19:44]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: Elaborate?
[19:44]	TR News	I've been meaning to do something about this. When making a bookmark, it should definitely let you know if the URL has already been bookmarked... Maybe go straight to an Edit Bookmark dialog? Let's see." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-04_geddit-443.gmi
[19:45]	SomeH4x0r	Bucha, a place where murders happened
[19:45]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: Elaborate some more.
[19:45]	TR News	"Somehow I feel a little guilty. Everyone who usually have the same taste in books as I have said that it's so great. It feels like I owe it to them, and the book, to read and enjoy it. I keep wondering if maybe the next chapter is the one that will hook me. I just can't really muster the interest to find out any more." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-23-when-should-i-move-on-to-the-next-book.gmi
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[19:46]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/signal
[19:46]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Signal
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[19:46]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: Because GNU Parallel mentioned it in a release name?
[19:46]	SomeH4x0r	yes
[19:47]	SomeH4x0r	how do they call releases?
[19:47]	TR News	"So this morning I'm looking into solutions for digital note-taking so that I can avoid running into issues like this again. So far I've decided I want to check out ObsidianMD and GitJournal. I'm leaning toward GitJournal for the sake of simplicity and self-hosting." gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry/54
[19:47]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: https://savannah.gnu.org/news/?group_id=9478 All of them are weird.
[19:47]	TR Bot	 GNU Parallel - News [Savannah]
[19:48]	XRevan86	"GNU Parallel 20170422 ('-') released"
[19:48]	TR News	"As dovish as I am, like how I condemn sending weapons to warzones, I still agree with sanctions, divestments, pulling products from markets etc. No-one is mandated to trade with an organization or nation who is killing them." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/divest
[19:49]	XRevan86	Hm, is the accent marker part of the release name? :)
[19:49]	SomeH4x0r	oh, idk tbh if they follow SJW trends or just buzzwords of the time
[19:50]	MinceR	what's SJW about Bucha?
[19:50]	TR News	Routing a specific user on a specific network interface on Linux gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/linux-user-on-specific-interface.gmi "I have a special network need on Linux, I must have a single user going through specific VPN tunnel. This can't be done using a different metric for the VPN or by telling the program to bind on a specific interface."
[19:50]	SomeH4x0r	"stand for Ukraine" shit
[19:51]	TR News	"It comes with Debian running in a container, so when you use Linux on Chrome OS, that is what you are getting. That makes all the CLI stuff easy to do, so I already got Diohsc running on this and all the other utilities I need." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202204231034.gmi
[19:51]	MinceR	what's SJW about sympathizing with the victims of terrorism and genocide?
[19:51]	XRevan86	> It is available for download at: lbry://@GnuParallel:4 
[19:52]	XRevan86	https://lbry.tv/@GnuParallel:4/GNU-Parallel-20220422-:f this is so bizarre!
[19:52]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: lbry.tv | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lbry.tv/@GnuParallel:4/GNU-Parallel-20220422-:f https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lbry.tv/@GnuParallel:4/GNU-Parallel-20220422-:f
[19:52]	TR News	"Today I'm doing more house cleaning, and I've automated my publish script for tinylog.gmi to include last entry for finger" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
[19:52]	TR Bot	 GNU Parallel 20220422 ('')
[19:52]	XRevan86	They're uploading tarballs to LBRY O_O
[19:53]	TR News	CLinuxOS 2022.04.20 is out http://www.pclinuxos.com/
[19:53]	TR Bot	cool ice cubes are jealous PCLinuxOS
[19:53]	schestowitz	XRevan86: for a number of months already, maybe a eyar
[19:55]	TR News	"The funds will support Black women entrepreneurs in their first five years of business. Each of them will receive $10K in funding and a year-long mentorship." Shaking of stigmas. https://afro.com/female-founder-invests-350k-in-funding-and-mentorship-for-35-black-women-entrepreneurs/
[19:55]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: afro.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://afro.com/female-founder-invests-350k-in-funding-and-mentorship-for-35-black-women-entrepreneurs/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://afro.com/female-founder-invests-350k-in-funding-and-mentorship-for-35-black-women-entrepreneurs/
[19:55]	TR Bot	founder invests $350K in funding and mentorship for 35 Black women entrepreneurs | AFRO American Newspapers
[19:56]	TR News	It was a pile of buzzwords. How about that? https://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/devops-and-shifting-left/
[19:56]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: eweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/devops-and-shifting-left/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/devops-and-shifting-left/
[19:56]	TR Bot	and Shifting Left the Right Way: 3 Tips | eWEEK
[19:58]	TR News	Don't worry. Only fakecoins will be lost. Monopoly money of fantasyland. https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2022/03/29/axie-infinitys-ronin-network-suffers-625m-exploit/
[19:58]	TR Bot	 Axie Infinitys Ronin Network Suffers $625M Exploit
[19:59]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I think I saw that before, but it's so bizarre I've forgotten.
● Apr 23
[20:00]	TR News	Turning more of them into clients in a country that does not cover basic health https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/59313/its-time-to-screen-all-kids-for-anxiety-physicians-task-force-recommends
[20:00]	TR Bot	 It's time to screen all kids for anxiety, physicians' task force recommends - MindShift
[20:01]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: .
[20:02]	TR News	GNU/Linux inside https://www.space.com/mars-helicopter-ingenuity-first-flight-anniversary
[20:02]	TR Bot	anniversary, Ingenuity! Mars helicopter flew for the 1st time one year ago today | Space
[20:02]	SomeH4x0r	 , 
[20:02]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: GNU has always been like that.
[20:02]	SomeH4x0r	 , 
[20:03]	TR News	Propping up "Web3" cranks https://wraltechwire.com/2022/04/19/next-red-hat-raleigh-blockchain-startup-kaleido-aims-to-lead-open-source-revolution-for-web3/
[20:03]	TR Bot	 Next Red Hat? Raleigh blockchain startup Kaleido aims to lead open-source revolution for Web3 | WRAL TechWire
[20:04]	TR News	Kubernetes removing dockershim container runtime - Protocol https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/kubernetes-dockershim-containers-cri-runtime Source: protocol
[20:04]	TR Bot	removing dockershim container runtime - Protocol
[20:04]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: , , - , , - .
[20:05]	TR News	Cranks pushing bullshit. Business Standard helps them push their bullshit. https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/companies-are-useless-in-decentralised-world-of-web3-harsh-rajat-of-epns-122041901091_1.html
[20:05]	TR Bot	 Companies are useless in decentralised world of Web3: Harsh Rajat of EPNS | Business Standard News
[20:05]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: I think ye're conflating reasonable activism with some previous instances of activists going too far (like making malware).
[20:06]	MinceR	i think someone should found the Party for Eating Human Children, so that eating human children will, too, just be "politics"
[20:06]	TR News	Swiss technology foils Russian censorship - SWI swissinfo.ch https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/swiss-technology-foils-russian-censorship/47520088?linkType=guid&utm_campaign=swi-rss&utm_source=gn&utm_medium=rss&utm_content=o Source: swissinfo
[20:06]	TR Bot	technology foils Russian censorship - SWI swissinfo.ch
[20:06]	SomeH4x0r	stop bringing politics to software dev. Maybe a comment is fine, but please no removing Russian language, putting Ukraine flags around, etc.
[20:07]	XRevan86	SomeH4x0r: This is definitely not an example that supports your point.
[20:07]	MinceR	also, the Party for Tossing Puppies Into Furnaces
[20:07]	TR News	Anti-Harassment Tools Team) at Wikimedia Foundation https://theparadise.ng/job-software-engineer-iii-anti-harassment-tools-team-at-wikimedia-foundation/ "Anti-Harassment" at Debian was itself harassing actually productive software engineers
[20:07]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theparadise.ng | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theparadise.ng/job-software-engineer-iii-anti-harassment-tools-team-at-wikimedia-foundation/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://theparadise.ng/job-software-engineer-iii-anti-harassment-tools-team-at-wikimedia-foundation/
[20:07]	XRevan86	MinceR: Is that a JoJo reference?
[20:07]	MinceR	no
[20:07]	TR Bot	 Job: Software Engineer III (Anti-Harassment Tools Team) at Wikimedia Foundation | The Paradise News
[20:07]	MinceR	i don't know JoJo
[20:08]	MinceR	but i do know about Jo-Jo, the idiot circus boy
[20:08]	TR News	If I didnt have this internet, this CyberMill, I wouldnt have been able to do this job, said the 31-year-old Id have to move. https://www.opb.org/article/2022/04/20/grant-county-free-internet-access-intel-jobs-tech-workers-cybermill/
[20:08]	TR Bot	 Grant County hopes free internet will convince higher-tech workers to stick around - OPB
[20:09]	TR News	Azure has layoffs and it's Microsoft/NSA surveillance. This press releasse is obsolele. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/calico-open-source-the-most-widely-adopted-container-networking-interface-cni-is-now-available-for-azure-kubernetes-service-aks-301528963.html
[20:10]	TR Bot	 Calico Open Source, the Most Widely Adopted Container Networking Interface (CNI), Is Now Available for Azure Kubernetes Service (AKS)
[20:11]	TR News	Clown computing is just a bubble that will burst, just like markets that get people to invest in the bubble https://www.businessofbusiness.com/articles/Clari-Andy-Byrne-Saas-fundraising/
[20:11]	TR Bot	 Claris founder on why its about to get brutal for SaaS | The Business of Business
[20:12]	TR News	If you download malware, it will do malicious things; a lot of these issues boil down to Microsoft shipping malware https://devops.com/checkmarx-finds-malicious-open-source-pypi-repository/
[20:12]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: devops.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devops.com/checkmarx-finds-malicious-open-source-pypi-repository/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://devops.com/checkmarx-finds-malicious-open-source-pypi-repository/
[20:12]	TR Bot	Finds Malicious Open Source PyPi Repository - DevOps.com
[20:13]	TR News	Clown storage is a scam. Anyone who's still pushing this is misled, corrupt, or outright malicious. Local storage is cheap already. You don't need "clowns" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3657876/apple-friendly-idrive-pushes-price-to-build-s3-service-for-smbs.html
[20:13]	TR Bot	iDrive pushes price to build S3 service for SMBs | Computerworld
[20:15]	TR News	How the home features in young adults' representations of loneliness: The impact of COVID19 https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12540
[20:15]	TR Bot	( status 503 @ https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12540 )
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[20:16]	TR News	Gulag: WE ARE INCLUSIVE. Also Gulag: Oh, we never did any development in Africa. https://tech.africa/google-hiring-product-development-center-africa/
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[20:16]	TR Bot	 Google is hiring for its first product development center in Africa
[20:17]	TR News	Don't use the word "angel"; the capital comes from people who turn you into their slave https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/amidst-record-momentum-throughput-inc-raises-6m-in-angel-funding-to-accelerate-supply-chain-transformation-301530247.html
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[20:17]	TR Bot	 Amidst record momentum, ThroughPut Inc. raises $6M in Angel Funding to accelerate Supply Chain Transformation
[20:18]	TR News	Overstating and hyping up perceived important of blockchains https://www.siliconrepublic.com/careers/blockchain-tech-why-developers-should-learn-free-course-icf
[20:18]	TR Bot	 Why software developers should learn about blockchain tech
[20:19]	TR News	Bloodthirty military contractors in less familiar clothing (Space Foundation) http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=59942,
[20:19]	TR Bot	 Raytheon Intelligence & Space announces partnership with Space Foundation, expands two STEM programs
[20:20]	TR News	Mastercard running out of "white people" to prey on (they haven't money left); now it's running after blacks https://www.musicinafrica.net/magazine/trace-and-mastercard-launch-free-mobile-learning-app
[20:20]	TR Bot	 Trace and Mastercard launch free mobile learning app | Music In Africa
[20:21]	TR News	More to free/libre browser like NetSurf or leave the Web. With things like JS and even CSS the WWW cannot be secure. https://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/how-to-test-your-browsers-security/
[20:21]	TR Bot	 How to Test Your Browsers Security
[20:22]	TR News	Tesla LOSES money. Quit using that scam as a role model of "Success" https://medium.com/medusa-commerce/how-teslas-tech-stack-is-a-testimony-to-the-need-for-open-source-solutions-7bb6342a7207
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[20:22]	TR Bot	Teslas tech stack is a testimony to the need for open source solutions | by Shahed Nasser | Medusa | Apr, 2022 | Medium
[20:22]	psydroid2	what is this division between Ukrainian and Russian language anyway?
[20:22]	psydroid2	can't everyone just be at least bilingual?
[20:22]	psydroid2	or is the other language seen as a means of oppression?
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR	that cannot be done
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR	English only
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR	ask daemonfc
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR	who never went abroad except mexico I think
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	they demand everyone else speaks their own language
[20:24]	psydroid2	s, el seor daemonfc
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	and they call "dumb" those who speak more than one language
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	projection tactics
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	"I am superior because I speak just one languuage"
[20:24]	psydroid2	as far as I know the US doesn't even have an official language
[20:25]	TR News	phone
[20:25]	TR News	No, keep landline alive https://www.pressherald.com/2022/04/22/cutting-the-cord-getting-tv-and-phone-services-over-the-internet/
[20:25]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pressherald.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pressherald.com/2022/04/22/cutting-the-cord-getting-tv-and-phone-services-over-the-internet/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.pressherald.com/2022/04/22/cutting-the-cord-getting-tv-and-phone-services-over-the-internet/
[20:25]	TR Bot	 Cutting the Cord Getting TV and phone services over the internet - Portland Press Herald
[20:26]	TR News	Microsoft: we're very corrupt criminals. So now we're greenwashing ourselves: https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsoft-celebrates-earth-day https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2022/04/21/microsoft-and-partners-are-building-a-more-sustainable-future/ see how Zemlin helps them! http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/
[20:26]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: onmsft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsoft-celebrates-earth-day https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsoft-celebrates-earth-day
[20:26]	TR Bot	and Xbox celebrate Earth Day - OnMSFT.com
[20:26]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: microsoft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2022/04/21/microsoft-and-partners-are-building-a-more-sustainable-future/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2022/04/21/microsoft-and-partners-are-building-a-more-sustainable-future/
[20:26]	TR Bot	 Microsoft and partners are building a more sustainable future - The Official Microsoft Blog
[20:26]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights
[20:27]	TR News	McKinsey peddling clown, so you know McKinsey became a bunch of marketing clowns https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/mckinsey-digital/our-insights/cloud-foundations-ten-commandments-for-faster-and-more-profitable-cloud-migrations
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[20:27]	TR Bot	actions to build a strong cloud foundation | McKinsey
[20:28]	TR News	Wow. One of the many coinCranks sites... "First-Class Bitcoin Self-Sovereignty" (sounds like the BS we heard about Joseon) https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitcoin-self-sovereignty-using-seedsigner
[20:28]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bitcoinmagazine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitcoin-self-sovereignty-using-seedsigner https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitcoin-self-sovereignty-using-seedsigner
[20:28]	TR Bot	 Bitcoin Self-Sovereignty Using SeedSigner - Bitcoin Magazine: Bitcoin News, Articles, Charts, and Guides
[20:28]	XRevan86	psydroid2: There isn't really an objective answer to that question.
[20:28]	AdmFubar	https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-launches-proceeding-promoting-receiver-performance-0
[20:28]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: fcc.gov | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-launches-proceeding-promoting-receiver-performance-0 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-launches-proceeding-promoting-receiver-performance-0
[20:28]	TR Bot	 FCC Launches Proceeding on Promoting Receiver Performance | Federal Communications Commission
[20:29]	XRevan86	My position right now is that having positive content in Russian or by Russians seen would help.
[20:29]	psydroid2	XRevan86, do you know why I'm asking that question?
[20:29]	XRevan86	https://nitter.eu/AlexKokcharov/status/1517847100402577408 something like that.
[20:29]	TR Bot	 Alex Kokcharov (@AlexKokcharov): "In #Riga, #Latvia, members of the local Russian-speaking community held a rally today to condemn #Russias barbaric war against Ukraine, and to show solidarity with #Ukraine:" | nitter
[20:29]	XRevan86	psydroid2: I have an idea, yes.
[20:29]	TR News	US Army kills its own soldiers. But slowly. "He since has also faced the slow, steady ravages of Agent Orange." https://www.stripes.com/veterans/2022-04-22/vietnam-veterans-parkinsons-disease-boxing-5766629.html
[20:29]	TR Bot	who served in Vietnam build on common ground with Parkinsons boxing | Stars and Stripes
[20:30]	psydroid2	I'm bilingual in 2 Indian languages as well, one comparable to Ukrainian in terms of (not having an official) status (Bhojpuri) and one comparable to Russian (Hindi), being seen as an elevated and cultured language
[20:31]	TR News	No, it turns homes into bugs and listening devices; quit marketing this as health and safety/fitness; "voice-activated virtual assistants such as Apples Siri and Amazons Alexa. Tools like this can turn your entire home into a highly accessible place." Well, accessible to NSA "analysts" https://www.webmd.com/multiple-sclerosis/multiple-sclerosis-assistive-technology
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[20:31]	TR Bot	 Multiple Sclerosis: Assistive Technology Can Help
[20:31]	MinceR	23 212209 < psydroid2> what is this division between Ukrainian and Russian language anyway?
[20:31]	MinceR	well, what's the division between any two slavic languages?
[20:32]	psydroid2	I mean as pertaining to Ukraine
[20:32]	TR News	Overusing and misusing the buzzwords, "HEY HI" https://www.icr.ac.uk/news-archive/ai-study-'exciting-first-step'-towards-improving-post-treatment-surveillance-of-lung-cancer-patients
[20:32]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: icr.ac.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.icr.ac.uk/news-archive/ai-study-'exciting-first-step'-towards-improving-post-treatment-surveillance-of-lung-cancer-patients https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.icr.ac.uk/news-archive/ai-study-'exciting-first-step'-towards-improving-post-treatment-surveillance-of-lung-cancer-patients
[20:32]	TR Bot	 AI study 'exciting first step' towards improving post-treatment surveillance of lung cancer patients - The Institute of Cancer Research, London
[20:32]	MinceR	23 212911 < XRevan86> My position right now is that having positive content in Russian or by Russians seen would help.
[20:32]	MinceR	the russian government won't let russians see it anyway
[20:32]	TR News	Obama has his own 'PAC' now... https://www.obama.org/asia-pacific-22/
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[20:32]	TR Bot	 Leaders Asia-Pacific - Obama Foundation
[20:33]	XRevan86	Definitely not "any two slavic languages", because Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian are much closer to each other than to any other Slavic language.
[20:33]	TR News	"Free Crypto Giveaway" LOL supplying fake hopes and fictional value to grow another "scheme" https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems
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[20:33]	TR Bot	 Sam Altmans Worldcoin Promised Them Free Crypto For An Eyeball Scan. Now They Feel Robbed.
[20:33]	XRevan86	Simply for being in the East Slavic language group.
[20:33]	MinceR	psydroid2: what's the division between ukrainian and polish language?
[20:34]	psydroid2	MinceR, a lack of mutual intelligibility without putting some effort into learning the other
[20:34]	psydroid2	but in Ukraine you are normally exposed to both Ukrainian and Russian
[20:34]	MinceR	i suspect that won't be the case for long
[20:34]	MinceR	the russian government is making sure every ukrainian will hate everything russian with a passion in the future
[20:35]	MinceR	that is, if they both continue existing, anyway
[20:35]	XRevan86	Always an optimist.
[20:37]	MinceR	no, an optimist would say that we'll all be fried quickly by 4 gamma ray bursts in a tetrahedral arrangement so that this festival of suffering ends quickly and relatively painlessly for all of us
[20:40]	TR News	Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) | Obsessed with reality https://balintreczey.hu/blog/firefox-on-ubuntu-22-04-from-deb-not-from-snap/ Source: balintreczey
[20:40]	TR Bot	 Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) | Obsessed with reality
[20:41]	TR News	Snaps don't make things easy or "snappy"; they make things bloated and they mostly exist to help shoehorn proprietary software and usher in vendor lockin
[20:44]	XRevan86	I read another decent article on Hungary on Meduza today, but it seems to not have been translated to English unlike the previous one.
[20:46]	XRevan86	It was curious to find out that Fidesz won with such astonishing results not just in spite of the escalation in Ukraine but because of it.
[20:48]	XRevan86	It shows that Orban's propaganda is just as capable to twist everything in their own favour.
[20:48]	MinceR	most hungarians only have access to orban's propaganda media
[20:48]	MinceR	so he can spin everything in his favor
[20:48]	XRevan86	He's like a Putin's twin.
[20:48]	MinceR	and he can keep most hungarians from finding out about anything
[20:48]	MinceR	he copies putler's system
[20:49]	MinceR	this is why i said that there might be a place for another radio free europe / radio liberty now
[20:49]	XRevan86	I guess it's convinient to have an example that it's not just Russian nature or mentality, it works on Hungarians after all.
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[20:50]	XRevan86	Also it looks like Hungary's version of fortunate oil money is EU's subsidies.
[20:53]	XRevan86	MinceR: I don't understand how that would solve the problem for the politically unsavvy.
[20:54]	MinceR	it might make it more difficult to avoid actual information
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[20:54]	TR News	Barry Kauleron EasyOS and OpenEmbedded Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164065
[20:54]	TR Bot	 Barry Kauleron EasyOS and OpenEmbedded | Tux Machines
[20:54]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164066
[20:54]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[20:55]	XRevan86	MinceR: Maybe Hungary is not yet as good at polluting the information space if ye think this is viable.
[20:55]	MinceR	\_()_/
[20:57]	XRevan86	It's not that simple unfortunately.
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[21:00]	XRevan86	MinceR: Russia's information policy is pretty much to throw enough doubt into the minds of the population that they'll just dismiss everything as "everyone lies".
[21:00]	XRevan86	And it works.
[21:03]	XRevan86	In the mind of a regular Russian everyone in media is the same kind of a lying son of a bitch like Russian propagandists, so they won't recognise the truth even if it's staring them into the face.
[21:04]	XRevan86	MinceR: If Hungary is not like that, give it time it will be.
[21:04]	TR News	Linux Foundation managers don't tend to stick around long and quite a few LF offshoots have died quietly. Don't be misled by their openwashing noise and sellout.
[21:07]	MinceR	XRevan86: what does russia do to media outlets that do not agree with the official propaganda?
[21:07]	XRevan86	MinceR: isitblockedinrussia.com
[21:07]	XRevan86	Crap, the website is still broken.
[21:07]	MinceR	so apparently they believe they have a reason to keep people from accessing information
[21:08]	XRevan86	MinceR: Yes, but there a problem: this block is not of the PRC level of strength.
[21:08]	MinceR	which means at least they have something to fear from external entities broadcasting into russia/hungary
[21:09]	XRevan86	https://t.me/s/meduzalive https://t.me/s/theinsider https://t.me/s/mediazzzona https://t.me/s/agentstvonews
[21:09]	TR Bot	 LIVE Telegram
[21:09]	TR Bot	 The Insider Telegram
[21:09]	TR Bot	 Telegram
[21:09]	TR Bot	 . Telegram
[21:09]	XRevan86	It's not that it's not possible to access the information.
[21:10]	MinceR	just too difficult for the average subject
[21:11]	XRevan86	Those average subjects who don't use Telegram I guess.
[21:12]	XRevan86	or YouTube
[21:14]	MinceR	russia hasn't figured out how to block youtube yet?
[21:14]	XRevan86	Laypeople don't want to spend time figuring out what media is trustworthy, they just want to open Yandex.News and consume shit.
[21:14]	XRevan86	MinceR: Only threats.
[21:15]	TR News	Links 23/04/2022: KDE Frameworks Barcode Scanner | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/23/kde-frameworks-barcode-scanner/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/23/kde-frameworks-barcode-scanner/
[21:15]	TR Bot	 Links 23/04/2022: KDE Frameworks Barcode Scanner | Techrights
[21:15]	XRevan86	And a random yt3.ggpht.com block
[21:16]	TR News	Microsoft vs The Web, Digital Restrictions (DRM) Stories Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164067
[21:16]	TR Bot	 Microsoft vs The Web, Digital Restrictions (DRM) Stories | Tux Machines
[21:16]	TR News	Proprietary Software and Security Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164068
[21:16]	TR Bot	 Proprietary Software and Security | Tux Machines
[21:16]	MinceR	maybe they're satisfied with dumping millions of dollars in taxpayer money into pushing advertisements into viewers, as fideath does (also with faecesbook)
[21:16]	TR News	Free Software Licensing/Legal Coverage Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164069
[21:16]	TR Bot	 Free Software Licensing/Legal Coverage | Tux Machines
[21:16]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164070
[21:16]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[21:17]	XRevan86	MinceR: Or maybe YouTube is actually too big to fail in this case. At least for now.
[21:19]	MinceR	:>
[21:19]	XRevan86	They're pushing RuTube as an alternative, but its moderation policy is shitty and manual enough that it's already failing.
[21:20]	schestowitz-TR	root n99b
[21:20]	XRevan86	Maybe if they figure out how to provide a service comparable to YouTube, they'll block it.
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	gulagtuve is a disservice
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	they can do better
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	and should
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	but they likely means the regime
[21:21]	schestowitz-TR	so I hope they fail
[21:21]	XRevan86	schestowitz: In the context of Russia, YouTube is a power of good.
[21:22]	schestowitz-TR	for you maybe
[21:22]	schestowitz-TR	not for Putin
[21:22]	schestowitz-TR	Gulagtube antagonises Putin
[21:22]	schestowitz-TR	they actively removed channels funded by him
[21:22]	schestowitz-TR	but not ones funded by his opponents
[21:22]	XRevan86	Some of them.
[21:23]	schestowitz-TR	they also don't flaf channels funded by the US gov.
[21:23]	MinceR	XRevan86: you don't get government propaganda as "advertisements" before every video you try to play?
[21:23]	schestowitz-TR	because they try to discredit anything which doesn't fit Western brainwash
[21:23]	MinceR	(if you don't have an adblocker enabled, that is)
[21:24]	XRevan86	MinceR: I don't, but yes, propaganda pays for ads.
[21:25]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I've shared some examples of the state of Russian discourse here.
[21:26]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I don't think ye realise just how low the bar is. It's not comparable even to Fox News.
[21:28]	MinceR	haven't trumpists moved on from fox noise to OANN?
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[21:49]	AdmFubar	https://opensource.com/article/22/4/how-linux-saves-earth
[21:49]	TR Bot	Linux rescues slow computers (and the planet) | Opensource.com
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[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	hi techrights_guest|95
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[21:53]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: we'll cover a lot on belarus on russia
[21:53]	schestowitz-TR	in the coming 14 days
[21:54]	bnchs__	windows: hahaha look we care about climate change and shieet, here's some useless "eco" option for your computer
[21:54]	bnchs__	also windows: has strict specs that outrules 80% of computers
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[22:44]	DaemonFC	<bnchs__> windows: hahaha look we care about climate change and shieet, here's some useless "eco" option for your computer
[22:44]	DaemonFC	GNOME supports three power modes now assuming the computer's firmware supports it.
[22:44]	DaemonFC	Mine apparently does.
[22:44]	DaemonFC	Usually I have it set to balanced.
[22:46]	DaemonFC	https://9to5mac.com/2022/04/22/man-uses-airtags-and-powerpoint-presentation-to-ask-airline-for-his-lost-bags/
[22:46]	TR Bot	uses AirTags and PowerPoint to ask airline for his lost bags - 9to5Mac
[22:46]	DaemonFC	"Thank you for this article. For years we have been hearing about how this tech can only be used for evil, with all the newspapers and tech blogs bashing away. But now, finally, we have a clear example where PowerPoint is used for something good."
[22:46]	DaemonFC	:/
[22:50]	TR News	From Belarus With Love Part I: Schizophrenic EPO Policy | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/23/schizophrenic-epo-policy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/23/schizophrenic-epo-policy/
[22:50]	TR Bot	 From Belarus With Love Part I: Schizophrenic EPO Policy | Techrights
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[22:50]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: there ^
[22:54]	TR News	"A few months ago I was planning on learning lua as a first language, but got sidetracked with other stuff in life, but now I'm picking up where I left off. Before and now I've decided that a fantasy console was the way I wanted to get start making games, and chose the 2nd most popular, open source TIC-80." gemini://jdj.golf/gemlog/fell-to-pico-8.gmi
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[23:45]	matey	<3 marlene
[23:45]	matey	so lets say youre taking a bunch of files and piping those to a program
[23:45]	matey	just the names and path
[23:46]	matey	lets say youre doing that
[23:46]	matey	then the program writes the name to a file
[23:47]	matey	and it also pipes the file through "strings" then writes that too
[23:47]	matey	heres what you SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER do
[23:47]	matey	you should never ever ever ever ever ever
[23:47]	matey	include the file youre piping to
[23:47]	matey	why?
[23:47]	matey	because it will pipe it through strings
[23:47]	matey	and usually, you have a file thats like 24mb or something
[23:47]	MinceR	sounds like something you just did :>
[23:48]	matey	NO I WOULD NEEEEVERR DO THIS
[23:48]	matey	but NOW, and COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICALLY
[23:48]	matey	your file is like 2gb
[23:48]	matey	and you keep trying to figure out why
[23:48]	matey	let me tell you why...
[23:48]	matey	actually mincer can tell you why :)
[23:48]	matey	but lets say (completely hypothetically)
[23:49]	matey	that you add "grep -v the name of the file youre completely hypothetically writing to)
[23:49]	matey	"
[23:49]	matey	thats exactly what you SHOULD do
[23:49]	matey	and it will save untold jiggabytes of space too
[23:50]	matey	(or so ive heard)
[23:50]	matey	its not like i ended up compromising and piping it to my editor instead
[23:50]	matey	when i could have VERY EASILY fixed this an entire week ago
[23:50]	schestowitz-TR	is that JayZ bytes
[23:50]	schestowitz-TR	(carter)
[23:50]	schestowitz-TR	?
[23:50]	matey	no its drake bytes
[23:50]	schestowitz-TR	jigga ma giga
[23:50]	matey	jettin giga wit it
[23:51]	MinceR	ring me up!
[23:51]	schestowitz-TR	paper beats rock
[23:51]	MinceR	skip to the dip now!
[23:51]	MinceR	what we say?
[23:51]	MinceR	jigga jigga!
[23:51]	matey	dip trip, flip fantasia
[23:51]	matey	/me builds a time machine and marries marlene
[23:52]	matey	i dont love her THAT much (but almost)
[23:52]	matey	better than dr quinn any day
[23:53]	matey	(cause christopher reeves built a time machine out of a penny to marry dr quinn and holy shit what a crappy film)
[23:53]	TR News	Wine 7.7 is out with more PE conversion work and theme additions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164050#comment-33453
[23:53]	TR Bot	 The Wine development release 7.7 is now available. | Tux Machines
[23:53]	matey	no the penny got jammed in it
[23:53]	matey	OH NO, A PENNY! ILL DIE OF SADNESS!
[23:54]	matey	OH IM IN HEAVEN AND DR QUINN RUNS LIKE IN BAYWATCH!
[23:54]	matey	/me is tempted to look up how much they spent on all that
[23:54]	TR News	You cannot undo the "data theft" the installation of such "apps" entails https://www.maketecheasier.com/remove-leftover-files-android/
[23:54]	TR Bot	 How to Completely Delete and Uninstall Apps on Android - Make Tech Easier
[23:55]	matey	i hope it was less than they spend on an episode of "days of our lives"
[23:56]	TR News	"We all heard the year of the linux desktop meme but what if we take it a little bit too seriously what would it actually take to get Linux into mainstream acceptance, into mainstream daily usage." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivHwVOT2PZg
[23:56]	TR Bot	https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=ivHwVOT2PZg
[23:56]	TR Bot	tube.cthd.icu | Let's Take Year Of The Linux Desktop Seriously - Invidious
[23:57]	MinceR	why?
[23:57]	TR News	Digital Restrictions (DRM) for DUMB consumers https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/04/insteon-finally-comes-clean-about-its-sudden-smart-home-shutdown/
[23:57]	TR Bot	 Insteon finally comes clean about its sudden smart home shutdown | Ars Technica
[23:57]	matey	i mean its their money i guess
[23:57]	matey	but id feel bad for them
[23:58]	TR News	Perl Weekly Challenge 161: Abecedarian Words and Pangrams http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/04/perl-weekly-challenge-161-abecedarian-words-and-pangrams.html
[23:58]	TR Bot	Weekly Challenge 161: Abecedarian Words and Pangrams | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org]
[23:58]	MinceR	i mean, the whole "year of the linux desktop" meme
[23:58]	matey	/me giggles
[23:58]	MinceR	the people spouting it came up with requirements that no OS ever fulfilled
[23:58]	MinceR	nor any kernel
[23:58]	matey	the year of templeps
[23:58]	MinceR	then MICROS~1 and ibm/deadrat took over Linux
[23:58]	MinceR	lol
[23:58]	matey	temple os
[23:58]	TR News	The EPOs management must be terrified of EPO stakeholders discovering that they help fund Belarus http://techrights.org/2022/04/23/schizophrenic-epo-policy/
[23:58]	TR Bot	 From Belarus With Love Part I: Schizophrenic EPO Policy | Techrights
[23:59]	matey	the temple os desktop
[23:59]	matey	we need an os thats lots of of little (RELATIVELY) easy to write programs
[23:59]	matey	and people can build anything they want on top of that
[23:59]	matey	and if anybody comes around and fucks with that on behalf of a corporation
[23:59]	matey	someone shoots them
[23:59]	matey	its that simple