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XRevan86 | MinceR: Isn't it bad to even share that photograph for humour? | Jan 24 01:08 |
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MinceR | the bot is excited too :> | Jan 24 01:21 |
XRevan86 | This is a beautiful passport | Jan 24 01:23 |
XRevan86 | and I bet it smells of elderberries | Jan 24 01:23 |
MinceR | :> | Jan 24 01:24 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://www.tomsguide.com/news/apple-safari-tracking-backfire | Jan 24 03:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomsguide.com | Google says Apple Safari's anti-tracking feature can be used to track users | Tom's Guide | Jan 24 03:59 | |
schestowitz | it can... | Jan 24 04:09 |
schestowitz | but you know... | Jan 24 04:09 |
schestowitz | Google :0) | Jan 24 04:09 |
schestowitz | so... | Jan 24 04:09 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz Apple is probably too incompetent to write an anti tracking system that actually works. | Jan 24 04:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | But it helps sell the "privacy" bullshit while they back up "gigabytes" of data about you to give to the police. Entire snapshots of your phone. | Jan 24 04:49 |
schestowitz | yup | Jan 24 05:01 |
schestowitz | I don't use those things | Jan 24 05:01 |
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schestowitz | Someboby sent me this | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > 2012 EUGENICS 100 YEAR ANNIVERSARY | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > ** | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > *BILL GATES: WORLD NEEDS **FEWER** PEOPLE* | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > Joins abortionists for 'family planning' conference on eugenics | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > Critics pointed out the summit was held 100 years after the July 1912 | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > eugenics conference led by Leonard Darwin, the son of Charles Darwin, | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > and dedicated to Darwin’s half-cousin Francis Galton. | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > BILL GATES: WORLD NEEDS FEWER PEOPLE - Aug 19, 2012 | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > https://www.wnd.com/2012/08/bill-gates-world-needs-fewer-people/ | Jan 24 05:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bill Gates: World needs fewer people - WND | Jan 24 05:52 | |
schestowitz | > | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > Christian Voice: | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > Bill Gates and the New Malthusians | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > *From Hard Eugenics to Soft Eugenics* | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > *Decreasing the Surplus Population* | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > *Forced Sterilization* | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > *The Hidden Truth About Vaccines and Forced Sterilization* | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | > https://web.archive.org/web/20130526154810/http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/index.php/bill-gates-and-the-new-malthusianism/ | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | I generally agree on overpopulation, but not about eugenics as a solution to it. | Jan 24 05:52 |
schestowitz | Can someone check if it's true that this was exactly 100 years later? | Jan 24 05:53 |
schestowitz | just researching | Jan 24 05:53 |
schestowitz | eugenics is bad | Jan 24 05:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Bill Gates and the New Malthusians » Christian Voice UK | Jan 24 05:53 | |
schestowitz | the concept that we should 'eliminate' some people | Jan 24 05:53 |
schestowitz | not even for disabilities like Nazis did at first | Jan 24 05:53 |
schestowitz | but for ethnicities and perceived "widom" | Jan 24 05:53 |
schestowitz | The only angle of this techrights can entertain isn't anti-abortion per se | Jan 24 05:53 |
schestowitz | but the idea that Gates thinks of eugenics as a legitimate approach to tackling issues | Jan 24 05:53 |
schestowitz | some people quote-mine him as saying "some people have no purpose" | Jan 24 05:54 |
schestowitz | or something to that effect | Jan 24 05:54 |
Hail_Spacecake | yeah there's a tension between being opposed to the elimination of disabled people and supporting the right of women to get abortions if they know their baby would be disabled | Jan 24 05:54 |
schestowitz | which is nihilistic and insulting | Jan 24 05:54 |
schestowitz | if not put in context like, some people don't find their purpose in life | Jan 24 05:54 |
schestowitz | on nazis eliminating people for disabilities: http://techrights.org/2019/07/16/haar-dark-historical-shadow/ | Jan 24 05:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Looney Tunes – Part 2: The “Difficult Legacy” and Its Dark Historical Shadow | Techrights | Jan 24 05:55 | |
schestowitz | it was called “Aktion T4” | Jan 24 05:55 |
schestowitz | Not much is said about it these days | Jan 24 05:55 |
Hail_Spacecake | a lot of societies who weren't nazis also eliminated people for disabilities | Jan 24 05:55 |
schestowitz | as all focus shifted to the holocaust | Jan 24 05:56 |
schestowitz | Hail_Spacecake: some still do | Jan 24 05:56 |
schestowitz | in Africa IIRC | Jan 24 05:56 |
schestowitz | or they claim the disabled to be "witches" | Jan 24 05:56 |
schestowitz | but... | Jan 24 05:56 |
schestowitz | here's my grudge | Jan 24 05:56 |
schestowitz | we're not against some things like low child mortality, obviously... | Jan 24 05:56 |
Hail_Spacecake | nearly every fetus detected to have down's syndrome is aborted in some countries, and whether this is good or bad or neutral depends on your position on abortion | Jan 24 05:57 |
schestowitz | which might mean early abortion of embryos that are obviously malformed | Jan 24 05:57 |
schestowitz | we just need to understand where Gates stands on these issues | Jan 24 05:57 |
schestowitz | because it looks tasteless from what I'm reading... | Jan 24 05:57 |
Hail_Spacecake | gates is almost certainly smart enough to say different things to different audiences | Jan 24 05:57 |
schestowitz | the absolutists say all abortions are "murder" | Jan 24 05:58 |
Hail_Spacecake | yup | Jan 24 05:58 |
schestowitz | even if done within weeks... Kavanaugh apparently thinks birth control pills are also cruel | Jan 24 05:58 |
schestowitz | I wonder what he thinks of his "spilled seed" | Jan 24 05:58 |
Hail_Spacecake | and the absolutists on the other side say that all restrictions on abortion are an unjust restriction on women's bodily autonomy | Jan 24 05:58 |
schestowitz | anyway, I will focus on what I can safely say | Jan 24 05:59 |
schestowitz | for the next article, about his hypocrisy | Jan 24 05:59 |
Hail_Spacecake | I"m not sure bill gates is a hypocrite | Jan 24 05:59 |
schestowitz | woman can decide, but the question is until when? | Jan 24 05:59 |
Hail_Spacecake | at least not on this issue, any more than anyone else with a political stance on when abortion should and should not be legal is | Jan 24 06:00 |
schestowitz | "if she didn't realise until 3 months or more, than burden grows to rationalise the abortion" | Jan 24 06:00 |
schestowitz | *then | Jan 24 06:00 |
Hail_Spacecake | no matter what position you take, someone think's your nazi-level bad for it | Jan 24 06:00 |
Hail_Spacecake | *thinks | Jan 24 06:00 |
Hail_Spacecake | *you're | Jan 24 06:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Lol, the average guy tosses out gallons of the stuff over the course of his life. | Jan 24 06:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | A condom is the best place for it. | Jan 24 06:00 |
schestowitz | just more waste | Jan 24 06:01 |
schestowitz | latex | Jan 24 06:01 |
schestowitz | anyway... | Jan 24 06:01 |
schestowitz | I will focus only on the Gates hypocrisy | Jan 24 06:01 |
Hail_Spacecake | some people think that ethically-meaningful human life begins at conception | Jan 24 06:01 |
schestowitz | some people send me the anti-abortion links | Jan 24 06:01 |
Hail_Spacecake | but I dont think anyone thinks it begins before conception | Jan 24 06:01 |
MinceR | some people are wrong | Jan 24 06:01 |
schestowitz | so unfertilied egg is not human | Jan 24 06:02 |
schestowitz | and then it becomes a human because some tadpole joins in? | Jan 24 06:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | A latex condom is very little waste compared to the garbage and CO2 a person would put out over a lifetime. | Jan 24 06:02 |
MinceR | all my skin cells have my complete DNA in them | Jan 24 06:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | So it's a good trade. | Jan 24 06:02 |
Hail_Spacecake | you gotta decide when a clump of cells is human enough for it to be murder to kill it | Jan 24 06:02 |
schestowitz | it's not a binary condition, it is a process | Jan 24 06:02 |
MinceR | so let's organize funerals for every skin cell that died | Jan 24 06:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Most people just take up space anyway. | Jan 24 06:02 |
Hail_Spacecake | DaemonFC[m]: isn't that the position that was attributed to bill gates as being vaguely eugenic earlier? | Jan 24 06:03 |
schestowitz | MinceR: ex-foliation is mass murder | Jan 24 06:03 |
MinceR | :> | Jan 24 06:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't care how you do it. Don't have kids. | Jan 24 06:03 |
schestowitz | foliation | Jan 24 06:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | Sleep. Have hobbies. Go on vacations. | Jan 24 06:03 |
schestowitz | without planes | Jan 24 06:04 |
Hail_Spacecake | people who don't have kids will be replaced by people who do have kids | Jan 24 06:04 |
schestowitz | people with private jets stressing the urgency of climate action and urging for action by flying their planes around to shake a hand and give a talk... | Jan 24 06:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | I fucking hate most people anyway. | Jan 24 06:04 |
Hail_Spacecake | any heritable disposition to not have children or to have fewer children will be evolutionarily selected against | Jan 24 06:04 |
schestowitz | draft: | Jan 24 06:04 |
schestowitz | "Gates Sr. decided to have a multitude of kids. He has three. Bill Jr. has an older sister called Kristi (Kristianne) and a younger sister called Libby. Bill Jr. also has three kids, namely Phoebe Adele Gates, Jennifer Katharine Gates, and Rory John Gates. So at the Gates family they're growing 50% in a single generation! Imagine the world going from a population of 8 billion people (where we are today, almost...) to 12 billion in just one | Jan 24 06:04 |
schestowitz | generation. What kind of example are these people setting themselves." | Jan 24 06:04 |
MinceR | "Shake hand, Kiss baby, Shake hand, kiss baby, Shake hand, Kiss hand, Shake baby, Shake baby, Kiss hand, Shake baby, Shake baby, kiss hand." | Jan 24 06:04 |
Hail_Spacecake | schestowitz: the birthrate is below replacement in a bunch of first world countries | Jan 24 06:05 |
schestowitz | ritual, MinceR? | Jan 24 06:05 |
MinceR | i guess you could call it that | Jan 24 06:05 |
schestowitz | Hail_Spacecake: good | Jan 24 06:05 |
Hail_Spacecake | and is slowing in a bunch of ones that we consider not rich enough to be first world | Jan 24 06:05 |
schestowitz | not for corporations | Jan 24 06:05 |
schestowitz | it means their market may be shrinking | Jan 24 06:05 |
schestowitz | less sales | Jan 24 06:05 |
Hail_Spacecake | like bangladesh | Jan 24 06:05 |
MinceR | the human species that exhausts all resources to reproduce and thus exterminates itself will be evolutionarily selected against | Jan 24 06:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | > schestowitz: the birthrate is below replacement in a bunch of first world countries | Jan 24 06:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | 1 person in a developed county is 100 times worse for the planet in a poor country. | Jan 24 06:05 |
schestowitz | so they come up with words like "dying population", "aging country..." | Jan 24 06:05 |
Hail_Spacecake | china has a demographic crunch in its future, japan is already hitting this | Jan 24 06:06 |
schestowitz | as if to imply nations can only develop by endless expansion of footprint and consumption | Jan 24 06:06 |
MinceR | got to outbreed the competing cults | Jan 24 06:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Lots of reasons. In the third world they generally don't all have a gigantic SUV for themselves to get stuck in traffic all day in. | Jan 24 06:06 |
Hail_Spacecake | yeah | Jan 24 06:06 |
schestowitz | but singapore, japan and skorea were already grossly overpopulated | Jan 24 06:06 |
schestowitz | more than china even... | Jan 24 06:06 |
Hail_Spacecake | I've been to japan | Jan 24 06:06 |
Hail_Spacecake | it didn't seem grossly overpopulated to me | Jan 24 06:07 |
Hail_Spacecake | lots of rural areas | Jan 24 06:07 |
MinceR | got to serve the memes, even at the cost of one's own life | Jan 24 06:07 |
schestowitz | low birth rates in north europe, esp. scandinavia, aren't due to too densely population a country, it even become a cultural thing | Jan 24 06:07 |
Hail_Spacecake | it's probably a cultural thing | Jan 24 06:07 |
schestowitz | japan has a lot of manufacturing | Jan 24 06:08 |
schestowitz | some of it in china | Jan 24 06:08 |
Hail_Spacecake | birthrates are rising a tiny bit in scandanavia | Jan 24 06:08 |
Hail_Spacecake | whereas they arent'c urrently in japan or south korea | Jan 24 06:08 |
Hail_Spacecake | the highest birthrates in the world are in subsaharan africa | Jan 24 06:08 |
schestowitz | to serve 100+ million people you need to put in lots of energy and deal with waste, in or outside japan | Jan 24 06:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Birth rate is crashing in the US. More and more people can barely afford to live as it is. | Jan 24 06:08 |
schestowitz | they also 'finish' the water life, inc. mammals | Jan 24 06:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Without dumping a baby or three into it with shrinking welfare programs. | Jan 24 06:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Attack on public education. | Jan 24 06:09 |
schestowitz | Hail_Spacecake: low child survival rates and religion | Jan 24 06:09 |
Hail_Spacecake | welfare programs are one of the reasons nations care about having a decent birthrate | Jan 24 06:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | Throwing the kid's lunch in the trash because he doesn't have a dollar. | Jan 24 06:09 |
Hail_Spacecake | you need a lot of people working and paying into a welfare system in order to pay for people who aren't working | Jan 24 06:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | > welfare programs are one of the reasons nations care about having a decent birthrate | Jan 24 06:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yes, which is why cutting welfare programs that encourage people to have kids comes out the other end and hurts Social Security later. | Jan 24 06:10 |
schestowitz | US could divert pentagon budget into feeding people instead of bombing people | Jan 24 06:10 |
Hail_Spacecake | possibly! | Jan 24 06:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | The baby bust will accelerate the downfall of Social Security and Medicare. | Jan 24 06:10 |
schestowitz | issue is, the pentagon money is like stimulus to "working families" that are "working" in the production line of weapons" | Jan 24 06:11 |
Hail_Spacecake | but you have to be sure of the causal relationship between some specific welfare program and childbirth rates | Jan 24 06:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | > US could divert pentagon budget into feeding people instead of bombing people | Jan 24 06:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh, those sanctity of life conservatives love bombing people. | Jan 24 06:11 |
Hail_Spacecake | the US government spends more money on welfare programs than it does on the military | Jan 24 06:11 |
Hail_Spacecake | social security and medicare/medicaid | Jan 24 06:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | A million dead Iraqis don't count. Just a fetus | Jan 24 06:11 |
schestowitz | "Terrorists" | Jan 24 06:12 |
schestowitz | or "to-be" ones | Jan 24 06:12 |
Hail_Spacecake | people on all sides of the US political system love bombing people | Jan 24 06:12 |
schestowitz | there's "money in it" | Jan 24 06:12 |
schestowitz | "give me a billion dollars in "research" grants and I'll come up with napalm, "small" nukes..." | Jan 24 06:13 |
schestowitz | Mustard gas is now "old school" | Jan 24 06:13 |
Hail_Spacecake | the US has used it military in all sorts of conflicts regardless of which political party had the presidency, over the past half-century | Jan 24 06:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Most American Conservative Christians have no idea and wouldn't care even if you did tell them that a million Iraqis were killed in the course of the war. If they have to give up their SUV, they'll scream. If you tell them a guy put on a condom, most will say he's going to hell for murdering a hypothetical person. | Jan 24 06:13 |
schestowitz | their factories have turned into pesticide and fertilisers | Jan 24 06:13 |
schestowitz | same chemical processes, one makes explosives, another boosts growth of plants... | Jan 24 06:14 |
Hail_Spacecake | you can find all sorts of people who are opposed to any specific case of anti-interventionism | Jan 24 06:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Condom prices are soaring, but then again, beats HIV. | Jan 24 06:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | One month of HIV meds is $3,000. That doesn't even count doctor visits and labs. | Jan 24 06:14 |
Hail_Spacecake | being anti-contraception is mostly a specifically catholic thing | Jan 24 06:14 |
Hail_Spacecake | lots of protestants don't have a problem with it | Jan 24 06:14 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: parents | Jan 24 06:14 |
schestowitz | Novartis one of them.. | Jan 24 06:15 |
Hail_Spacecake | and most american conservative christians are protestants | Jan 24 06:15 |
schestowitz | *patents | Jan 24 06:15 |
schestowitz | not parents | Jan 24 06:15 |
schestowitz | manufacturing costs are vastly lower | Jan 24 06:15 |
schestowitz | not that having HIV (positive) and cheaper meds makes life so much better.... | Jan 24 06:15 |
Hail_Spacecake | certainly it's better to not get HIV to begin with | Jan 24 06:16 |
Hail_Spacecake | or other STDs | Jan 24 06:16 |
Hail_Spacecake | HIV isn't the only one | Jan 24 06:16 |
schestowitz | one might joke that lower price can 'encourage' co-existence with HIV | Jan 24 06:16 |
Hail_Spacecake | there are crazy people who deliberately want to get HIV | Jan 24 06:16 |
Hail_Spacecake | or infect other people with HIV | Jan 24 06:16 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The meds that treat it also prevent it. | Jan 24 06:17 |
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schestowitz | weird to think how much money is now made by a handful of companies from impotence and AIDS | Jan 24 06:17 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I was just really lucky I guess. | Jan 24 06:18 |
schestowitz | CHina might soon have a pandemic | Jan 24 06:18 |
schestowitz | they already do quarantines at airports | Jan 24 06:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | I hate condoms, I was too depressed to care if I got something most of my life. Never did. | Jan 24 06:18 |
schestowitz | not sure if that starter from digestion of bats or snakes or whatever... those esoteric Chinese 'diets' or 'cuisines' | Jan 24 06:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz It's already here and I doubt the Chinese will be able to control it even with their people being used to having no freedom whatsoever. | Jan 24 06:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I can't even imagine what a pandemic in the US will look like. | Jan 24 06:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | > weird to think how much money is now made by a handful of companies from impotence and AIDS | Jan 24 06:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Most of the new drugs are just combo pills. | Jan 24 06:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | And losing patents doesn't mean it's suddenly cheap to have HIV. | Jan 24 06:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | It just means that it's less of an outrage. | Jan 24 06:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Government programs and corporate grants cover the drugs for most people, so few see the prices. | Jan 24 06:25 |
Hail_Spacecake | if there weren't patents on drugs researchers wouldn't have an opportunity to profit from discovering said drugs | Jan 24 06:41 |
Hail_Spacecake | so they'd do something else instead and there wouldn't be drugs | Jan 24 06:41 |
oiaohm | Hail_Spacecake: I would kind of believe that if money from patents was in fact going back to research. | Jan 24 06:44 |
oiaohm | Most medical research is government funded. | Jan 24 06:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the US government ((taxpayers) footed the bill to develop Truvada and then the government gave it away to the price gougers at Gilead. | Jan 24 07:03 |
oiaohm | There are a few patents in medical I don't disagree with. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-24/coronavirus-vaccine-work-starts-with-queensland-researchers/11896346 Like the patent at work here the university paid for all the research to make it so the money for it is going back to the uni for research for 20 years. | Jan 24 07:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Coronavirus vaccine research to include team from Queensland - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) | Jan 24 07:12 | |
oiaohm | But when you look at the USA and other places the Unis and government funded reserach is selling their patents out right./ | Jan 24 07:12 |
schestowitz | sometimes to trolls | Jan 24 07:13 |
schestowitz | who then tax the public with lawsuits | Jan 24 07:13 |
oiaohm | So the patent system in those cases are not working as design. | Jan 24 07:13 |
oiaohm | Basic idea of patent system is ok. The implementation totally suxs. | Jan 24 07:13 |
schestowitz | CSIRO in au | Jan 24 07:15 |
schestowitz | parasites | Jan 24 07:15 |
schestowitz | gov.-connected | Jan 24 07:15 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/CSIRO | Jan 24 07:15 |
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oiaohm | Funny part is every patent CSIRO has enforced is tech they in fact designed. | Jan 24 07:15 |
oiaohm | CSIRO has never bought a patent. | Jan 24 07:16 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: I would not exactly say CSIRO is a parasite as they did in fact invent something. Parties did take CSIRO white paper with patent warnning notes and built on top off without aquriing patent. | Jan 24 07:18 |
oiaohm | I would say CSIRO is likely to enforce with sledge hammer. | Jan 24 07:18 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: CSIRO is a over aggressive true fund of invention. They can be over aggressive because current patent laws allow it. | Jan 24 07:21 |
oiaohm | Remember just because CSIRO makes stuff using government money. Remember this Australian government money paid for by the Australian public. This is not in fact research that like USA, China, Japan... public paid for. | Jan 24 07:24 |
schestowitz | [07:16] <oiaohm> CSIRO has never bought a patent. | Jan 24 07:25 |
schestowitz | patents should not be passible or sellable | Jan 24 07:25 |
oiaohm | CSIRO does not buy or sell patents. Only registers their own funded inventions and enforces those. | Jan 24 07:26 |
oiaohm | So true inventor funding organisation. | Jan 24 07:26 |
oiaohm | Patent trolls normally have bought patents and when they enforce patents they have no assets that could be gone after if they are wrong. | Jan 24 07:27 |
oiaohm | CSIRO also does not do taht. | Jan 24 07:27 |
oiaohm | So if CSIRO was absolutely wrong in enforcement attacked party could take damages out of CSIRO. | Jan 24 07:28 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: basically CSIRO is not a troll they are something else. Lot of parties do get upset when CSIRO does enforce patents. CSIRO has a open policy of selling a patent license to anyone who asks at fair rates. If you don't ask and CSIRO goes to court on your ass they will want very unfair rates. | Jan 24 07:30 |
oiaohm | Fair rates for items that are like open source include free. | Jan 24 07:30 |
oiaohm | Basically I don't feel sorry for those who end up on the wrong side of CSIRO legal. | Jan 24 07:31 |
oiaohm | Wi-fi standard itself referenced a CSIRO white paper with a warnning notice that CSIRO might hold patents so contact CSIRO legal about license. | Jan 24 07:33 |
oiaohm | That one was a pure lack of due diligence on those implementing wifi. | Jan 24 07:33 |
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liberty_box | https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08100zy | Jan 24 10:29 |
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oiaohm | https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/22/21077280/microsoft-chrome-bing-extension-office-365-proplus-installer-default-search-engine let the second browser search engine war begin. | Jan 24 13:23 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jan 24 16:22 |
MinceR | https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/02/3a47d04eed2b9ac2.mp4 | Jan 24 16:31 |
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MinceR | (audio:none?) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/02/076f49c4c02a8742.mp4 | Jan 24 17:22 |
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XRevan86 | liberty_box: Laughing people as an illustration. | Jan 24 17:53 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Well, they aren't wrong. Discontinuing Windows 7 means they won't be slipping in anything worse. | Jan 24 18:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Telemetry was apparently always a standalone update that you could remove and blacklist. | Jan 24 18:08 |
liberty_box | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/24/microsoft_previews_visual_studio_update_with_improved_linux_support_many_new_features/ | Jan 24 18:10 |
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MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/647988.jpg | Jan 24 19:28 |
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MinceR | https://66.media.tumblr.com/5d2e59e8d5a2d3bff083af83329c7af4/2429f9a58d2faf54-fc/s640x960/128d5d47b9c1db5941c8d4b9d76102c571b1e617.jpg | Jan 24 19:44 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: What's the joke? | Jan 24 19:45 |
XRevan86 | There's some beer called crown? | Jan 24 19:45 |
MinceR | yes | Jan 24 19:45 |
MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_(beer) | Jan 24 19:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Corona (beer) - Wikipedia | Jan 24 19:46 | |
XRevan86 | Original name I guess. | Jan 24 19:46 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: common word/name | Jan 24 20:30 |
schestowitz | like crona | Jan 24 20:30 |
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MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/648032.jpg | Jan 24 21:52 |
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XRevan86 | MinceR: Should have gone with a photograph of a cigar. Organic. | Jan 24 22:03 |
MinceR | a cigarette is made of organic compounds too :> | Jan 24 22:06 |
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XRevan86 | What I mean is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_food | Jan 24 22:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Whole food - Wikipedia | Jan 24 22:08 | |
XRevan86 | except tobacco is not food | Jan 24 22:08 |
MinceR | it is not recommended to eat cigars | Jan 24 22:08 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Hence why I find it hard to apply that terminology to them | Jan 24 22:08 |
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MinceR | https://hugelol.com/lol/647836 | Jan 24 23:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | bad and naughty children get to into the fire apartment | Jan 24 23:17 | |
XRevan86 | MinceR: And they want it | Jan 24 23:18 |
MinceR | of course they want it, they're bad | Jan 24 23:19 |
MinceR | they want things they're not supposed to want | Jan 24 23:19 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: So it's not punishment then | Jan 24 23:21 |
MinceR | it may yet turn out to be punishment | Jan 24 23:29 |
MinceR | or they might be too kinky to punish | Jan 24 23:29 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20010351 | Jan 24 23:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 24 23:58 |
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