●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, May 24, 2021 ●● ● May 24 [00:00] techrights-bot "Right now there are two groups of people with opinions on this matter. One group is appalled by the original report, because they have a number of serious concerns with the report." #perl #programming #division http://blogs.perl.org/users/leon_timmermans/2021/05/the-witch-and-the-witch-hunt.html [00:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Witch and the Witch-hunt | Leon Timmermans [blogs.perl.org] [00:03] techrights-bot #LinuxFoundation is to #Linux what artificial (lab-made) 'meat' is to meat. Or what 'soy milk' is to actual milk, with lactose and all... [00:03] techrights-bot " #Stryde uses an #Arduino Nano Every at its core to store presets, display information, and select effects." https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/05/23/stryde-is-an-arduino-nano-every-powered-midi-preset-loader/ [00:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Stryde is an Arduino Nano Every-powered MIDI preset loader | Arduino Blog [00:05] techrights-bot DNS Over HTTPS: Next Step In Internet Privacy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr-bGhTP3IU but some supposed 'pioneers' of this send your requests to #surveillance companies worse than, e.g., your ISP, and even located OVERSEAS. I'm look at you, #google -funded #mozilla [00:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DNS Over HTTPS: Next Step In Internet Privacy - YouTube [00:07] techrights-bot I've renewed the TLS cert of #techrights for those who strictly insist on using HTTPS, but it is self-signed and please don't ask me to change this. I'm not outsourcing trust to the corrupt #linuxfoundation (LF LE) [00:09] stormchaser3000 I don't get why centralized certificate authorities were ever a good idea [00:09] techrights-bot Unpopular truth: #LetsEncrypt is an exercise of control over many sites and services. Whose control? Check where LE puts its code, #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware (PRISMHub), and check who LF fronts for. #Surveillance companies with MASSIVE Pentagon contracts (subsidies). [00:10] techrights-bot #github : #ProprietarySoftware for exercising control over lots of #freesw devs: http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ #LetsEncrypt : let's outsource the keys to the United States, even for things outside the US. Same for #clownflare (for traffic). [00:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsofts Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights [00:11] schestowitz stormchaser3000: because your browser stops nagging [00:11] schestowitz likely some Google-something browser [00:11] schestowitz of Googlezilla [00:11] stormchaser3000 ah [00:11] schestowitz it's also not so much for you [00:11] MinceR i guess the counterpart of googlezilla would be moogle [00:11] schestowitz it's good for some other entities [00:11] schestowitz it can enhance your privacy, sure [00:11] schestowitz but at what cost? [00:12] stormchaser3000 how would having a centralized public keyserver for https sites enhance one's privacy? [00:12] stormchaser3000 I am sure there is a piece of the puzzle I am missing for sure [00:13] schestowitz [08:15] http://techrights.org/2020/11/17/trust-models/ [00:13] schestowitz [08:15] http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/free-privacy-lunch/ [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Regaining Control Over Infrastructure With Decentralisation and Trusted Encryption | Techrights [00:13] schestowitz [08:15] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- techrights.org | Lets Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit Its Disguised as Free Privacy | Techrights [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lets Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit Its Disguised as Free Privacy | Techrights [00:13] schestowitz [08:15] this was just a year ago: http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundations Lets Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions | Techrights [00:13] schestowitz we went through this yesterdat [00:13] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:13] schestowitz you can read the publicly-posted IRC logs [00:14] stormchaser3000 ok [00:14] *stormchaser3000 starts wondering if his own website should not even use https [00:14] schestowitz Oh, maybe not yet [00:14] schestowitz not until 2am here [00:14] schestowitz last log does not include that, as it ws past midnight http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220521.html#tMay%2022%2018:10:15 [00:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, May 22, 2021 [00:15] stormchaser3000 I don't see why I need to bother with https on my site... it doesn't have a login system or commenting system for articles I write [00:15] schestowitz the above is around 8am today [00:15] schestowitz well, sunday [00:15] stormchaser3000 if someone wants to commend on an article I write, they can grab my public key and send me an encrypted E-Mail [00:15] stormchaser3000 comment* [00:15] schestowitz [00:15] I don't see why I need to bother with https on my site... it doesn't have a login system or commenting system for articles I write [00:15] schestowitz it helps monopoly [00:15] schestowitz but that is a site perk fro monopolies [00:15] schestowitz they raised the barrier to entry [00:16] schestowitz many people nowadays get frustrated and give uo [00:16] schestowitz crypto stuff is hard to grasp [00:16] schestowitz so they outsource to wordpress.com, blogspot etc. [00:16] schestowitz like Red Hat adding complexity to stuff [00:16] schestowitz and then people just sigh and say, "let's buy annual support contract for peace of mind" [00:16] stormchaser3000 which is odd considering how easy it is to learn html and build a website [00:17] schestowitz it was [00:17] schestowitz gemini is still easy [00:17] schestowitz and it does self-signed keys [00:17] schestowitz nothing would complain [00:17] schestowitz 85% of geminispace is self-signed [00:17] schestowitz 13% LE [00:17] schestowitz 2% something else [00:17] stormchaser3000 O.o [00:17] stormchaser3000 fascinating [00:17] schestowitz HTML used to have lower entry barrier [00:18] schestowitz I did HTML when I was about 15 [00:18] schestowitz now it's hilariously bad [00:18] schestowitz 10 CSS file, JS frameworks all over the plae [00:18] schestowitz obfuscated code for "efficiency" [00:18] stormchaser3000 I suppose with the advent of JavaScript being a social requirement to "develop" a "website" thing have become more difficult [00:18] schestowitz here, have 10 MB of fonts [00:18] *ubuntourist has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:18] schestowitz I removed newlines to save 100 bytes :-) [00:19] stormchaser3000 my instructor in my web development class (college was such a massive waste of time for me) told me that code obfuscation was a "good" reason for "minification" of JavaScript code [00:20] schestowitz 8 years ago I learned people were starting to literally send FONTS to visitors [00:20] schestowitz even if they just visit 1 (ONE!) page [00:20] stormchaser3000 sending fonts... why? [00:20] schestowitz I was dumbfounded [00:20] schestowitz like, WHAT DA FUNK!! [00:20] schestowitz why? [00:20] stormchaser3000 why not just specify the font family and a backup in-case it doesn't exist on the user's system? [00:20] schestowitz "because my visitors need to see EXACTLY WHAT I SEE!!: [00:21] *stormchaser3000 facepalms at the state of "modern" software "development" [00:21] schestowitz those are not light fonts either [00:21] schestowitz proprietary witjh kerning and hinting [00:21] schestowitz 1MB is you are LUCKY [00:21] schestowitz usually a lot more [00:21] stormchaser3000 wow [00:21] schestowitz with many chars you will never use; useless glyphs flooding the network [00:22] schestowitz yeah, sure, CNN, send me thousands of mandarin and hangul stuff so I can read 4 paragraphs about how awesome Obama was [00:22] schestowitz (in English) [00:23] stormchaser3000 I really can't believe that I went to college under the impression that I needed it in order to get a job [00:23] schestowitz gemini we host from home [00:23] schestowitz it's about 10kb per page for long articles [00:23] stormchaser3000 beause this sort of thing is the garbage I was taught [00:23] schestowitz i.e. 100 requests would be 1MB [00:23] schestowitz so it scales well [00:23] stormchaser3000 web development and Android development [00:23] schestowitz 'development' [00:23] schestowitz [mini me meme] [00:23] schestowitz I did Android development [00:23] schestowitz in Eclipse [00:24] schestowitz with opencv [00:24] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ [00:24] stormchaser3000 Now days the barrier to entry for writing an Android "app" is so high that the only viable soltuion for beginners is basically android studio [00:25] stormchaser3000 a proprietary fork of intellij IDEA for the x86_64 architecture [00:25] stormchaser3000 meaning I can't write a piece of software for Android on my Pi 400 or my Pinebook Pro [00:26] stormchaser3000 also because the sdk tools are x86_64 only [00:26] schestowitz yes, I know [00:26] schestowitz they abstract it [00:26] schestowitz on top of bloat [00:26] schestowitz and you then become reliant on it [00:26] schestowitz until they pull the rug [00:26] stormchaser3000 exactly [00:27] schestowitz then you have worthless code that won't run on anything anymore [00:27] schestowitz I still use PalmOS stuff [00:27] schestowitz but some packages aren't well maintained anymore [00:27] schestowitz like jpilot and kpilot [00:28] techrights-bot Expect more #epo #greenwashing puff pieces such as this one in days to come https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/05/technology-enabling-energy-transition/ paid-for propaganda to obscure the real scandals: http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/illusion-of-peace-in-haar/ [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.weforum.org | 4 charts show how tech is driving green energy trends | World Economic Forum [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 18: Promoting the Illusion of Peace and Haar-mony | Techrights [00:30] stormchaser3000 on a somewhat related note, if computers are becoming such integral parts of many individuals lives, there should be classes to educate young students (k - 12) on how to operate a program a computer via practical application of basic computing concepts such as how to write simple software [00:30] stormchaser3000 operate a computer [00:30] schestowitz yes, that's an objective [00:31] stormchaser3000 * [00:31] schestowitz they teach applications, I think, de facto training [00:31] schestowitz today I worked on my single-board computer [00:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:31] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/monitoring-ipfs/ [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Using a Single-Board Computer to Monitor IPFS | Techrights [00:32] schestowitz I still need to borrow a soldering gun, the lock-downs have prevented this since last year [00:32] stormchaser3000 I was taught how to write algorithms by my instructor, not why those algorithms worked or how they could be useful in real world situations [00:32] stormchaser3000 he also taught the C programming language as if it were an object-oriented langauge [00:33] stormchaser3000 I am so frustrated with how awful my college education has been [00:33] stormchaser3000 the only class I found super interesting was my creative writing class [00:34] schestowitz ah, I see... [00:34] schestowitz well... some of us don't do "apps" and Android [00:34] schestowitz I had my share of tat [00:34] schestowitz that [00:34] schestowitz android is "move fast, break everything" [00:34] schestowitz the code becomes worthless after a few years [00:34] stormchaser3000 yep [00:35] stormchaser3000 the worst part of all though... I never learned analytical thinking as it applies to writing software [00:36] stormchaser3000 I only went to this college because a banker was willing to pay all the graduating seniors from my high school to go there for two years [00:36] stormchaser3000 I wish I had turned down the offer [00:38] schestowitz best learning comes from experience [00:38] schestowitz not syllabus [00:38] stormchaser3000 I really don't care if I would have had to work at a retail location for a couple years while I trained myself. I would have preferred that to getting a poor quality education [00:38] stormchaser3000 agreed [00:38] schestowitz but degrees help with employment [00:38] schestowitz I hardly use my degrees at all [00:38] schestowitz not even for employment [00:39] techrights-bot #Linux 5.13-rc3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151518 #Kernel #TuxMachines [00:39] stormchaser3000 that is what I have heard in general. People are able to get decent programming jobs if they know what they are doing, not if they have a piece of paper saying they went to college for two years [00:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.13-rc3 | Tux Machines [00:40] stormchaser3000 while the automated resume scanning systems may prefer a college degree, personal connections and recommendations are far more powerful from what I have seen [00:40] schestowitz that too [00:41] techrights-bot "As everyone should know already, #privacy on an #Android phone, in general, is pretty much a joke." The joke if you, too. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/google-play-spotlight-gasbuddy-grindr-or-how-i-informed-facebook-using-android-f-droid-spotlight-trackercontrol/ [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Google Play Spotlight: GasBuddy, Grindr, or how I informed Facebook using Android. F-Droid Spotlight: TrackerControl. BaronHK's Rants [00:41] techrights-bot "As everyone should know already, #privacy on an #Android phone, in general, is pretty much a joke." The joke is you, too. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/google-play-spotlight-gasbuddy-grindr-or-how-i-informed-facebook-using-android-f-droid-spotlight-trackercontrol/ [00:41] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/failure-is-not-an-option-it-comes-with-every-samsung-galaxy-phone-thanks-to-microsoft-and-t-mobile-swap-out-the-photo-gallery-with-f-droid/ [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Failure is not an option, it comes with every Samsung Galaxy phone. (Thanks to Microsoft and T-Mobile.) Swap out the photo gallery with F-Droid. BaronHK's Rants [00:42] techrights-bot "Retro gaming is a big part of my life. So, when Sylvain Gadrat (aka sgadrat or Roger Bidon) contacted me last week to show the new playable character of his Nes game Pepper I had suddenly a large grin like a Cheshire cat and I started to see rainbows." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article845/derivation-pepper-in-super-tilt-bro-nes-game [00:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Derivation: Pepper in Super Tilt Bro (Nes game) - David Revoy [00:45] techrights-bot Suddenly nobody talks about the #crimeMinister of #israel failing to actually form a government and having to go to prison for his many crimes. #palestine as his 'collateral damage'. His COVID facade with 30-year secrets ran out of stream? https://english.aawsat.com/home/article/2988311/israel-hamas-ceasefire-holds-un-launch-gaza-aid-appeal [00:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.aawsat.com | Israel-Hamas Ceasefire Holds, UN to Launch Gaza Aid Appeal | Asharq AL-awsat [00:47] techrights-bot Misconception/misuse of the term 'ownership' from litigation firms-funded liars who call ideas "assets", call #patents "rights" (complete BS), and just about everything -- even life and nature -- "property" (slave-owning mentality of privileged sociopaths) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/question-property-final.html [00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Question 11 from my Property Law Final Exam. [00:49] techrights-bot So some US universities (called "colleges") are run by and employ as teachers/lecturers pawns funded by #patent #litigation firms. No conflict of interest there at all... [00:52] baronhk[m]1 Bonus: Just after I posted this, I read that Spamsung completely abandoned the S8/S8+, which were the phone of 2017. Four years in, you cannot safely continue to use the phone, whether it works or not, unless you figure out a way to unlock the bootloader and install an unofficial ROM that's in whatever state it's in. Nice to see that Spamsung loves e-waste. [00:53] baronhk[m]1 Edited: "Nice to see that Spamsung loves e-waste as much as Microsoft loves Linux patent aggression. Like a fat kid loves cake." [00:55] baronhk[m]1 It's the time honored tradition. If the old model kept working indefinitely, how would they sell the new model? Most of these phones are barely different except that they keep getting more expensive and dropping widely used features to help them force the Clown on the user. [00:55] techrights-bot Nefarious data brokers put an exceptionally high price (one might say "bounty") on data of those who are better at #privacy and are thus harder to 'figure out' and sell out, in bulk. Look what #system1 did to #startpage and #waterfox ... disgraceful. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights [00:57] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: the Clown :-) [00:57] schestowitz the clown is off-lown [00:57] schestowitz https://www.itnews.com.au/news/failed-dns-server-restarts-caused-salesforce-outage-564893 [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | Failed DNS server restarts caused Salesforce outage - Networking - Software - Digital & Disruption - iTnews [00:59] baronhk[m]1 "Apple realized that the iPod Classic had to go because as long as people could keep dropping MP3s on that, using a flip phone to make calls, and buying a dedicated GPS unit for their car, they were eating into their own sales of a much more expensive market. Now, the deluxe iPhone is $1,649 and it only lasts a few years between replacements. Almost every app costs you money somehow. Sometimes a staggering amount. [00:59] baronhk[m]1 Almost nobody is better off with this." ● May 24 [01:00] techrights-bot #microsoft 2009 http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Microsoft__Wake_Up_and_Smell_Defeat_.ogg [01:00] baronhk[m]1 The carriers love them because a data plan is almost twice as expensive as a basic phone line. [01:01] techrights-bot Samba geek on why #freesw http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Why_Free_Software__.ogg #fsf #oldvideo [01:01] baronhk[m]1 (Then certain ones, like T-Mobile, will sell you unlimited data that doesn't really work anywhere.) [01:01] schestowitz no such thing as unlimited [01:02] schestowitz but if you max up the capacity and do it 24/7, you can calculate the real cap [01:02] schestowitz assume they let you get there at all [01:02] schestowitz at 1MB per second you can do 3.6GB/hour [01:02] schestowitz Techrights HTTP is average over 3mb/sec this past week [01:03] schestowitz so over 10GB/hour [01:03] schestowitz 1.62TB in 6 days, 9 hours [01:04] schestowitz if the ISPs allow high throughput for crap like netflix, you can go higher than this [01:04] schestowitz even just to mess with them [01:07] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:10] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: I was glad that Psychology Today finally ran an article dismissing the idea that someone is dangerous because they aren't on Facebook. [01:10] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [01:11] baronhk[m]1 They went further and said that being an excessive user of Facebook is associated with Dark Triad personality types. [01:13] baronhk[m]1 Apparently, most pirated APKs actually remove these tracking libraries. [01:13] baronhk[m]1 As well as turning on all of the premium features that are in the app. [01:14] baronhk[m]1 I noticed that apparently the only server-side difference with Spotify Premium is Very High Quality and Download (still DRM'd, you can just listen without an active connection). [01:14] baronhk[m]1 The pirates can enable seeking and get rid of all the ads and enable play the actual song instead of "shuffle mode" and "radio" only. [01:23] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [01:24] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:24] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[03:14] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: Mozilla is turning off NNTP newsgroups and deleting everything and moving the mailing lists over to Google Groups. [03:23] XRevan86 https://nitter.cc/plainoldchair/status/1396645587966205953 cc: CrystalMath, MinceR [03:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Rapid-Onset Hyrule Historia (@plainoldchair): "they claimed it meant "corporate linux" and when asked since when "woke" means "corporate", I got this. You heard it here first: Microsoft bowed to the ~SJWs~ to kill Linux." | nitter [03:24] XRevan86 Don't know where that's from, but I see familiar faces and I immediately share [03:24] MinceR bowed? [03:24] MinceR i don't know where they got that from [03:24] MinceR but it's ok, SJWs had reading comprehension issues for ages [03:25] MinceR i see this luser is spewing lots of classic SJW nonsense [03:25] MinceR is that what libera.chat wants to be? [03:26] MinceR the drama is on freenode/#freenode-policy-feedback btw [03:28] MinceR this luser is hallucinating pretty fiercely [03:28] *tr_guest|59611 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [03:30] kingoffrance agree. "bowed". and "corporate" is just a knee-jerk catchphrase it seems (which "side" isn't "corporate"? ) [03:31] MinceR i am not corporate [03:31] MinceR the independent developers that made free software great are not corporate [03:31] kingoffrance i mean foundations, legal entities, etc. [03:31] kingoffrance giving to LF is more "corporate" [03:32] baronhk[m]1 "Hate speech" [03:32] baronhk[m]1 LOL@ "IRC is 20 years behind the rest of the internet and is white male dominated." [03:32] MinceR LF is so corporate they kicked out all their non-corporate members [03:32] baronhk[m]1 I think they are committing hate speech against white males. [03:33] MinceR indeed [03:33] MinceR but it's the "woke" thing to do [03:33] MinceR so it's ok [03:33] MinceR you see, racism and sexism are not the problem, but whom you pick as your targets [03:34] kingoffrance really, to be alive you need: 1) animation 2) corpse so everyone is "corporate" in that sense. and the dead are *just* corporate. and religions have their own definitions of "alive". point being, the "corporate or not" is largely red herring [03:34] MinceR lol [03:34] XRevan86 It's almost impressive how incapable the people are at understanding what the people with a different opinion are talking about. Maybe it's the lack of context. [03:35] kingoffrance ^ [03:35] kingoffrance laziness [03:35] MinceR society is increasingly tribal [03:35] kingoffrance ^ [03:35] XRevan86 I feel the weight of not understanding most of what anyone's even talking about. [03:35] MinceR on that channel, and in connection with the current drama, people have tried real hard to sort people they disagreed with into the tribe they hate [03:35] MinceR hence accusations of "trumpism" [03:35] kingoffrance ^ [03:35] kingoffrance sorry lol [03:36] kingoffrance couldnt agree more [03:36] kingoffrance if you lack info, "closest approximation" in their heads perhaps [03:36] MinceR media have also been reorganized so that most of it is echo chambers catering to a particular tribe [03:36] MinceR people of different tribes have different "news" and "facts" [03:36] kingoffrance i'll just "ding ding ding" and stop "^" lol [03:36] baronhk[m]1 Tucker Carlson had the "Chicken Lover" on as a guest after the CDC told people not to kiss chickens. [03:37] baronhk[m]1 I liked it better when it was a joke in South Park. [03:37] baronhk[m]1 I wonder how many people are kissing chickens and getting salmonella that the CDC had to say this. [03:38] XRevan86 Hell is Other People [03:38] MinceR i was hoping we could have free software [03:38] baronhk[m]1 MinceR: Mitchell Baker is outsourcing everything to Google and Microsoft. Well, not everything. They're packing Firefox Android full of tracking libraries. [03:38] MinceR but i suspect in the end we will have some sort of SJW software posing as free and people trying to do actual free software painted as right-wingers [03:39] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [03:40] baronhk[m]1 For a long time, they refused to support iPhones at all "because it wouldn't really be Firefox anymore" but now they just quietly ship an inferior version for the iPhone which usually doesn't even have access to the latest WebKit APIs, which themselves have been held back several years to avoid "app developers" from running off and making progressive web apps that bypass the app store and Apple's fleecing of the [03:40] baronhk[m]1 users/developers. [03:40] baronhk[m]1 Now they quietly just ship a gimpy version of something calling itself "Firefox" for that platform. [03:41] kingoffrance other way to say that: if you get rid of all corporatism, you are debating spirits/religion at that point [03:41] MinceR they stopped caring about firefox being firefox [03:41] MinceR kingoffrance: i'm more concerned with the type of person referred to as a "suit" and the sort of things they do [03:42] kingoffrance yeah, i "get" some of what they mean so dont mean to split hairs, but accuracy slowly dwindles if i dont say anything [03:42] kingoffrance agree on that too [03:42] kingoffrance GIGO [03:47] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [03:48] kingoffrance the stuff that gets aired seems false dichotomies, so dig for nuance i suppose [03:52] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:52] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:53] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:54] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:54] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:57] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● May 24 [04:00] kingoffrance what i was trying to get at is corporations are based on expanding/abstracting real people. so if people forget this, they are liable to drift off into absurdities [04:01] kingoffrance horse and cart thing, one depends on other, foundation [04:02] kingoffrance OO-wise maybe inheritance from a base class with overloaded methods if you will lol [04:03] CrystalMath schestowitz: rasengan put Ariadne into the staff [04:03] MinceR it's a legal fiction :> [04:03] CrystalMath was this a smart move? [04:03] MinceR we'll find out [04:03] MinceR if it wasn't, maybe we'll move :> [04:03] rasengan It's a good move. ;) [04:04] rasengan Ariadne has been developing FOSS and has a deep passion for freenode and FOSS, including developing atheme, the services freenode was based on. [04:05] CrystalMath tbh, i have nothing concretely bad to say about her [04:05] CrystalMath but i'm waiting for schestowitz [04:29] CrystalMath rasengan: personally i'm concerned that she said that some old staff will be returning [04:30] rasengan Old staff? [04:30] rasengan I think she means much older staff than the staff that many are concerned about! [04:31] CrystalMath oh, from before tomaw, jess, fuchs, ...? [04:31] CrystalMath i mean, before they came along [04:31] CrystalMath i don't really remember... [04:32] CrystalMath it was too long ago, i joined the network in 2008 [04:34] MinceR hopefully not RichiH [04:34] *Ariadne (~ariadne@freenode/staff/ariadne) has joined #techrights [04:35] CrystalMath MinceR: yes, that would be bad [04:42] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:42] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [04:45] CrystalMath rasengan: another point of concern is that Ariadne seems to want to establish stricter controls of freedom of speech than there were a week ago [04:46] CrystalMath rasengan: i trust you, but i just hope that Ariadne will not be writing the policies herself [04:46] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/24/mozilla-outsources-newsgroups-to-google-development-to-microsoft-github-and-stuffs-proprietary-tracking-into-firefox-for-android-the-user-experience-is-falling-apart/ [04:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Mozilla outsources newsgroups to Google, development to Microsoft GitHub, and stuffs proprietary tracking into Firefox for Android. The user experience is falling apart. BaronHK's Rants [04:46] Ariadne CrystalMath: oh can it [04:46] Ariadne CrystalMath: i don't care about what channels do [04:46] baronhk[m]1 I miss the Debian that had IceWeasel and told Mozilla to go fuck their trademark policy, honestly. [04:46] CrystalMath Ariadne: okay, i don't really know what your stance is tbh [04:47] CrystalMath Ariadne: you seem to be vague about it [04:47] Ariadne my stance is that #stormfront.org is offtopic on freenode [04:47] CrystalMath what about ##rightwing [04:47] CrystalMath (not sure if that is real) [04:48] CrystalMath okay, it's not [04:49] *willyg_cos has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [04:49] CrystalMath Ariadne: that silence is concerning [04:49] baronhk[m]1 I'm right-wing, I suppose, in the sense that I think you lose the right to protest when it's involving someone who tried to throw the car in reverse and run over the cops and/or you start burning down buildings. [04:49] Ariadne i have [04:49] Ariadne 1000000 people asking me shit [04:49] Ariadne please be patient [04:49] Ariadne ##rightwing is fine [04:49] CrystalMath ah, understood [04:49] rasengan CrystalMath: We're not for censorship. [04:49] baronhk[m]1 This is probably the sort of comment schestowitz worries would cost us the entire room if it went to Libera Chat. [04:49] CrystalMath rasengan: thank you, that is clear [04:50] Ariadne i'm not for censoring people, but obviously there are limits [04:50] CrystalMath sorry for doubting [04:50] Ariadne we're not going to let hate groups or terrorist groups or whatever use the network, in fact, we can't under UK law [04:50] MinceR lol [04:50] CrystalMath i never thought otherwise, it's just that when someone says "there are limits" that doesn't by itself clarify things [04:50] baronhk[m]1 They'd say I was a privileged white male, which has had the benefit of....having the police threaten to shoot him a couple of times, apparently. [04:50] Ariadne CrystalMath: i'm a goddamn libertarian, i'm not interested in censoring anything [04:51] baronhk[m]1 Yes siree, born with a silver spoon in my mouth. [04:51] CrystalMath you know, like i could say "there are limits" and then reveal some very tiny limits [04:51] CrystalMath but i won't waste your time anymore with this topic, i understand [04:52] baronhk[m]1 You know, I don't like the cops, but if you want to not die you kind of need to do that thing those folks with the guns pointed at you ask for. [04:52] CrystalMath baronhk[m]1: the cops here got robbed a few days ago [04:52] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:52] CrystalMath the police station [04:52] MinceR lol [04:52] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [04:52] baronhk[m]1 Last time the police had me at gunpoint it was like 8 or 9 of them at 3 in the morning. [04:53] CrystalMath baronhk[m]1: america is crazy :P [04:53] CrystalMath i've never had that happen to me [04:53] Ariadne CrystalMath: i'm just here because i realize that there's going to be 3 networks, and i know how to make sure things run smoothly [04:54] CrystalMath Ariadne: freenode, libera, and OFTC? [04:54] baronhk[m]1 The Democrats are passing all sorts of "police reform" laws that are not going to help people who follow the laws. [04:54] Ariadne CrystalMath: right [04:54] baronhk[m]1 What's going to happen is that people who are armed career criminals are going to figure out how they can get the upper hand using all of these new laws. [04:54] baronhk[m]1 The cops will just go right on killing as many white men as ever because nobody protests. [04:55] CrystalMath baronhk[m]1: then maybe some day your local police station will be robbed too :P [04:58] baronhk[m]1 Probably. [04:58] baronhk[m]1 Cheaper than letting them set fire to everything and rob everything they don't set fire to. ● May 24 [05:24] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/24/eventually-migrating-back-to-gnu-linux-on-a-recent-lenovo-thinkbook/ [05:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Eventually migrating back to GNU/Linux on a recent Lenovo ThinkBook. BaronHK's Rants [05:40] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [05:47] *habaner (257893a6@37.120.147.166) has joined #techrights [05:48] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: The former freenode staff are lying to you! Support Andrew Lee! | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf) [05:49] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [05:50] *habaner has quit (Client Quit) ● May 24 [07:15] baronhk[m]1 Mozilla should have started their own search engine years ago. [07:16] baronhk[m]1 They'd probably be fairly popular considering that, at one time, they had almost half of all web users and could have defaulted to themselves for search, and been their own ad network. [07:16] *v8 is now known as v8[llf] [07:17] *rasengan is now known as rasengan[llf] [07:17] *schestowitz gives voice to techrights-ipfs [07:17] schestowitz [04:03] schestowitz: rasengan put Ariadne into the staff [07:17] schestowitz good! [07:18] baronhk[m]1 Instead, they renew their search deal every few years, Google gives them about half of what they got last time, and things keep rolling along. Slower, until there's nothing left. [07:19] schestowitz what is 'llf'? [07:19] schestowitz LiLo Foundation? [07:19] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: Mozilla can save Google lots of money in antitrust fines [07:20] schestowitz by reiterating Google not being a monopoly [07:20] schestowitz while Google pays them to make a 'rival' [07:20] schestowitz that's hard-linked to Google in the address bar [07:20] schestowitz Google is a different kind of monopoly [07:20] baronhk[m]1 "They could leave Chrome any time they want." [07:20] schestowitz nowhere as harmful as some others [07:20] baronhk[m]1 Basically. [07:20] schestowitz BTW: [07:20] schestowitz I prefer chrome monopoly [07:21] schestowitz or monoculture [07:21] schestowitz to what we had with MSIE [07:21] schestowitz Remember ActiveX [07:21] schestowitz or Windows Media Player/Video in side pages? [07:21] baronhk[m]1 Yes, sites handing out WMV files. [07:21] schestowitz Those were dark times, the browser was used to cement OS monopolies [07:22] baronhk[m]1 You can use whatever you want underneath Firefox or Chrome and it's almost the same experience. [07:22] schestowitz hmmm.... seems like BT sent another silent firmware update [07:22] schestowitz 2 nights ago [07:22] schestowitz seems to have fixed what they broke silently a month ago [07:26] schestowitz New: [07:26] schestowitz "According to some folks, Freenode's time is up. But is this yet another example of the FOSS community overreacting? " [07:27] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVdQp3FbEFg [07:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Freenode sky is FALLING - YouTube [07:27] baronhk[m]1 It could be. [07:27] baronhk[m]1 Remember that SJWs will make hay out of anything in order to demand huge changes. [07:28] baronhk[m]1 Then when the dust settles, they control the new forum and can impose CoCs where they wouldn't have been allowed before. [07:35] kingoffrance baronhk[m]1, re: "mozilla should've started a search engine" yeah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMOZ and ditto (where is stuff hosted now? github?) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozdev.org [07:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | DMOZ - Wikipedia [07:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | mozdev.org - Wikipedia [07:35] baronhk[m]1 dmoz was still during Netscape years. [07:36] kingoffrance yeah, i just remember the name [07:36] baronhk[m]1 I meant they should have kickstarted a more modern one when they had lots of users and cash to throw around. [07:36] kingoffrance sure, just mean there was precedent somewhat [07:36] kingoffrance search engines arguably killed those types of "listings" [07:36] kingoffrance but when trying to find it, i saw business stuff still likes "curated" type stuff [07:36] schestowitz abuse of them did tooo [07:37] kingoffrance or business people debate whether SEO is worth getting listed on those types of things or not [07:38] kingoffrance same can be said aol re: winamp, streaming video, gnutella too, etc. [07:38] baronhk[m]1 ddg's results have gotten much better recenty. [07:38] baronhk[m]1 *recently [07:39] kingoffrance dmoz would sometimes come up when i searched for obscure stuff [07:40] kingoffrance as in probably dead links, and then id go to archive.org wayback [07:41] kingoffrance so, just 3 short steps lol [07:48] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: financial results? [07:48] schestowitz you know who pays... [07:48] schestowitz the same people who blast freenode right now don't seem to mind DDG doing vastly worse things [07:49] schestowitz and being controlled by companies that spy [07:49] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [07:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [07:55] schestowitz http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2021-May-24.html.en#2021-May-24-08:46:51 [07:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netfort.gr.jp | memtest86+ did not work on my machine. [07:55] schestowitz "memtest86+ did not work on my machine. Looking at the changelog the version was last updated in 2014. Checked their website and apparently there was a new version last year. Might be worth a try. I saw at least some code to handle memory modules with memory more than 32GB." [07:55] schestowitz is 32GB of RAM enough to run Vista 10? [07:58] psydroid soon enough it won't be, so we can enjoy more "progress" ● May 24 [08:00] schestowitz I heard that something Vista 10 boots successfully [08:00] schestowitz and you can get some work done on it... for a while [08:00] schestowitz It took BT one whole month (yes, a month!) to fix the seriously bad bugs they introduced with botched firmware updates, silently imposed remotely on hubs to make home networks mutually inaccessible in most scenarios [08:05] psydroid 8 GB was stretching it on my laptop, so I put 32 GB and an additional SSD in it. As of last year Vista 10 lives in a VM with 12 GB that I only touch if something really can't be done on the Debian host [08:06] psydroid I'm glad that so far they haven't been messing with internal networks here, but I haven't run any servers yet [08:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.90 swarm size (avg): 229.07 [08:17] schestowitz psydroid: when you say stretching it you mean it's too little [08:18] schestowitz until a year ago I had not used ANY machine with more than 2GB [08:21] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:27] psydroid schestowitz, yes, I still use machines with 1-8 GB but my newer laptops have 24 GB and 32 GB respectively [08:28] schestowitz probably expenseive [08:28] schestowitz some people buy a machine for x5 or more than me [08:29] schestowitz Microsoft and Apple found a way to compel people to pay for PCs what they pay for used cars [08:29] schestowitz and OEMs love it like that [08:29] psydroid I bought my own laptop for my studies through university and then my uncle gave me his 2 years ago and told me I could keep it [08:29] schestowitz but then again some 'reputable' OEMs that ship only with gnu/linux do the same [08:30] schestowitz rianne still has 4GB of RAM after many years with 2GB [08:30] schestowitz I only upgraded from 2GB last year [08:31] schestowitz a local shop here sells used thinkpads for about 200 quid [08:32] psydroid I make sure to write and test much software on (used) machines with 2-4 GB that I got for well under 100 [08:45] schestowitz I am getting a deja vu like you said it a month ago [08:49] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [08:54] psydroid Probably [08:55] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151521 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:55] techrights-bot Ryan correctly points out that the crooks and thugs from #microsoft blackmailed #samsung -- using #patents -- to impose Microsoft #malware on people who buy Samsung. Where's the government #antitrust probe? https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/failure-is-not-an-option-it-comes-with-every-samsung-galaxy-phone-thanks-to-microsoft-and-t-mobile-swap-out-the-photo-gallery-with-f-droid/ [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Failure is not an option, it comes with every Samsung Galaxy phone. (Thanks to Microsoft and T-Mobile.) Swap out the photo gallery with F-Droid. BaronHK's Rants [08:55] techrights-bot #IBM layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:55] psydroid We don't really need machines with that much memory, but the software keeps getting bigger and sometimes slower [08:56] techrights-bot Kevin E. Noonan disseminating notorious #USTR propaganda, where they basically #blackmail entire nations on behalf of US megacorporation to undermine competitors https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/us-trade-representative-releases-2021-special-301-report.html examples in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Cablegate [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: U.S. Trade Representative Releases 2021 Special 301 Report [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cablegate - Techrights [08:56] techrights-bot " #IBM stop the pension plan. When they did stop it they would match a max of 6% to your 401k plan and add another 2%. As money was going south they change the 401k match to 2% max." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY56fW7#replies [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Pension - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:59] techrights-bot #SublimeText 4 Brings in a Refreshed UI, GPU Rendering Feature, and More Exciting Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151431#comment-29737 [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sublime Text 4 | Tux Machines [08:59] techrights-bot "Band 10 is death row at IBM you dont want to get there. 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[14:05] cybrNaut i see it mentioned here: https://yasha.substack.com/p/signal-is-a-government-op [14:05] *PrivateInternetA (4b8aeceb@075-138-236-235.res.spectrum.com) has joined #techrights [14:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yasha.substack.com | Signal is a government op - Immigrants as a Weapon [14:08] cybrNaut I bash Signal at every opportunity.. but that seems like a stretch. The CIA is a government agency, so how can it have a spin-off? Does the government say "office X doing activity Y is for sale"? [14:15] *PrivateInternetA has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [14:16] cybrNaut ah.. apparently they are it a "spin-off" because Signal got CIA funding. I guess saying "spin-off" makes the article more sensational and grabby than just saying "funded by CIA" [14:16] cybrNaut s/are it/are calling it/ [14:26] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.22) has joined #techrights [14:28] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:28] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:31] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [14:47] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:57] trttl it's a centralized service, they control both the client app and the server. and if i'm not mistaken only the protocol has been audited so far [14:59] trttl also they had issues with providing reproducible builds for the app in the past ● May 24 [15:00] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:00] trttl also though open source is nice the development is hard to follow because they tend to leave repos out of date [15:04] trttl i mean if you just dump a lot of code once a year nobody will really inspect that and introduced security bugs have a good chance to remain unnoticed [15:09] trttl but the press likes them so w/e [15:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 37.55 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.13 swarm size (avg): 229.35 [15:17] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [15:20] *wineroots has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:24] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.22) has joined #techrights [15:26] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21032811 [15:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5353316) [15:27] XRevan86 > rasengan put Ariadne into the staff [15:27] XRevan86 Wait, she changed her mind? [15:27] Ariadne XRevan86: i am here to assist friends who also joined the staff [15:27] XRevan86 Ariadne: Oh, I typed your nickname manually, should've known :D [15:29] cybrNaut trttl: Signal is certainly something to avoid: https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/779 I was trying to understand what was meant by the CIA having a spin-off company [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Software Removal | Signal Issue #779 privacytools/privacytools.io GitHub [15:33] XRevan86 Ariadne: Does that mean that ye have changed your mind on Freenode or is it strictly to help friends? [15:33] XRevan86 > i'm just here because i realize that there's going to be 3 networks, and i know how to make sure things run smoothly [15:33] XRevan86 I guess that answers it. I'm just reading back-log. [15:34] trttl in a blogger's imagination everything is possible but i don't give too much credit to a bunch of what if questions [15:35] Ariadne XRevan86: basically, i had ex-staffer friends who really needed the help [15:37] XRevan86 Is https://freenode.net/people currently outdated? [15:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | The People - freenode [15:37] trttl the self-updating apk is interesting. wonder if they could roll out targeted updates if they wanted to [15:37] trttl given that usernames are tied to phone numbers and phone numbers are generally tied to real life identities [15:38] Ariadne XRevan86: yes, i would say so [15:38] *wineroots (f24d257755@gateway/shell/disroot.org/x-blnafoiaiapcfmej) has joined #techrights [15:40] cybrNaut does that self-updating apk run over Orbot? [15:41] cybrNaut and more importantly, does it rely on Playstore to grab the updates? [15:42] *xgqt has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:44] cybrNaut Moxie likes his stats, so i would assume he's coded it to depend on Google, in which case downloading the APK from signal.org could eventually lead to a Playstore download anyway. That should be looked into [15:48] trttl if play services are present it will used it [15:48] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [15:49] trttl but it's not dependent on it [15:50] cybrNaut so if Play svcs are unavailable, the self-update will fetch from signal.org, over Orbot? [15:50] trttl orbot? [15:50] cybrNaut Orbot is the Tor client for Android [15:52] MinceR considering what the CIA does, it sounds plausible that they could found a corporation that is not (or at least not officially) owned by the CIA [15:55] *xgqt (~user@static62133140007.ostnet.pl) has joined #techrights [15:59] trttl i know it's just unclear what's the connection between the two. you don't need orbot in order to use signal [15:59] trttl but you can force your traffic through tor ● May 24 [16:01] cybrNaut trttl: if the app is self-updating, and it does so outside of Tor, the problem is that your IP address can identify you to the software repo, in which case you can get a special version select for you (if you are targetted). But Tor counters that, of course only if Playstore is out of the loop [16:02] trttl i don't follow your logic [16:02] cybrNaut A user should demand that self-updates happen over Tor. But for performance reasons they may want comms to go direct to the other party [16:03] cybrNaut which part are you lost on? [16:03] cybrNaut it's the same problem as with javascript from Protonmail, for example [16:03] trttl you already have a username that is persistent [16:04] cybrNaut i would hope the username is not part of the update transaction. If it is, then that's a big problem that should be spotlighted [16:05] cybrNaut it would violate the data minimization that Signal users should demand [16:05] trttl .. [16:06] cybrNaut are you saying userid is part of the software update transaction? [16:06] trttl i think we misunderstood each other. i was talking about something else [16:11] cybrNaut there are only 2 scenarios where a self-updating Signal app is safe: 1) if everything is done without Playstore and it's all over tor (at the cost of performance), or 2) if Signal self-updates from signal.org over Tor, and comms are either direct or over tor at the user's discretion, which is incompatible with Tor-by-force. [16:13] cybrNaut case 2 is ideal, but i doubt the Signal config gives users the option of certain traffic over tor and other traffic not. [16:15] cybrNaut i won't install Signal so I can't see what the config looks like, but hopefully the auto-updating can be disabled [16:19] trttl i don't see how in the settings [16:22] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2104270 [16:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5421072) [16:22] *v8[llf] has quit (Quit: www.freenode.net) [16:26] cybrNaut trttl: are you saying auto-updates can't be disabled, or that there is no way to select what traffic goes over Tor? [16:28] trttl there's no option to set a proxy and there's no option to disable updates [16:33] trttl when you're on cellular you're broadcasting your location+imsi+imei. if your signal account name is the same as your actual phone number then tor is of little help [16:33] trttl that's why i don't follow your logic [16:37] cybrNaut different parties see different things. Assuming you are using mobile data & not wifi, the carrier sees your IMEI but beyond that only your unprotected traffic is visible to the carrier. Signal.org and Google should not be seeing your IMEI# [16:39] cybrNaut if you use wifi and the software is well coded, then no one sees your IMEI -- but note that Google Playstore's app shares your IMEI with Google, which is why it's important to avoid Playstore [16:40] cybrNaut does Signal function if you put your phone in airplane mode, with only wifi running? [16:41] cybrNaut i'm sure it must, because Signal has a desktop app [16:41] trttl yeah and some parties have subpoena capabilities and can see everything [16:43] cybrNaut a subpoena is a different variable which may or may not be in your threat model, but in the end the subpoena is still limited by technology. The subpoena can be served on any 3rd party involved, but that party can only give what they have [16:43] cybrNaut subpoena power is also why it's important to get software updates anonymously [16:43] techrights-bot This seems rather biased as it ignores all the similar (or worse) 'abuse' from the other side https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/05/23/1632220 [16:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: soylentnews.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/05/23/1632220 ) [16:44] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:44] cybrNaut think of how the Hushmail steroid dealers were caught [16:44] trttl it's hard to maintain a discussion if you're moving the goalposts all the time [16:45] techrights-bot #Fedora Linux 34 Is Now Powered by Linux Kernel 5.12 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151534 #ibm #redhat [16:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 34 Is Now Powered by Linux Kernel 5.12 | Tux Machines [16:45] cybrNaut the court ordered Hushmail to push malicious javascript to the suspects. That was only possible because they did not connect to the server anonymously when downloading the javacript [16:46] cybrNaut the goal posts haven't changed. Data minimization has always been paramount since the discussion started [16:47] schestowitz [15:27] XRevan86: i am here to assist friends who also joined the staff [16:48] schestowitz thanks, Ariadne! [16:48] cybrNaut if the Hushmail steroid dealers had downloaded the javascript under different accounts & over tor, the subpoena could not have forced disclosure of their traffic due to tech limitations [16:49] cybrNaut it's the same with Signal. Signal should be designed to make subpoenas as useless as possible [16:50] schestowitz Signal has many issues [16:50] schestowitz and some of its endorsers I lost confidence in [16:50] schestowitz Wikileaks shows it's not good enough on a phone [16:50] schestowitz not sure about desktop [16:51] schestowitz but it USED to require a phone number to use [16:51] schestowitz I think they overcame that [16:51] XRevan86 they did? [16:51] schestowitz they also releases server-side software after a long time of darkness [16:51] trttl if you're using an account name that is tied to your real life identity you're not anonymous tor or no tor. your monologue doesn't make any sense [16:51] schestowitz as people started asking ''weird' questions [16:51] schestowitz trttl: Signal is not anonymous [16:51] schestowitz if you use 'phone' [16:51] schestowitz it's encrypted [16:51] schestowitz but it's possible to figure out the "ends" [16:52] schestowitz just now what they say [16:52] schestowitz only when and with phones/IP also where from [16:52] schestowitz you're better off just meeting someone face to face in the street [16:53] cybrNaut trttl: anonymous to who? What you're missing is several parties are involved. You're not anonymous to the correspondant you are talking to, but anonymity to the parties facilitating the comms is possible if the software is well coded. [16:55] techrights-bot Theme Hospital game engine reimplementation #CorsixTH gets a big new Beta | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/theme-hospital-game-engine-reimplementation-corsixth-gets-a-big-new-beta #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #deletegithub [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Theme Hospital game engine reimplementation CorsixTH gets a big new Beta | GamingOnLinux [16:57] cybrNaut signal.org gets your mobile # and that's a serious defect, but it's not a total show stopper as Signal at least ensures they don't see the metadata of who is talking to who. Open Whisper Systems knows that Alice uses Signal & that Bob uses Signal, but OWS doesn't know that Alice talks to Bon [16:57] cybrNaut *Bob [16:58] techrights-bot #Lakka #GNU #Linux 3.0 Released: This Linux Gaming Distro Just Got Better! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151481#comment-29740 [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lakka 3.0 release | Tux Machines [16:59] trttl i'm not missing anything you're the one who missed my whole point. which is: i was wondering if signal could technically ship targeted updates if they were asked to do it by a third party. given that the independent apk self-updates with no option to disable it. given that your user name is tied to your real life identity and location [16:59] trttl orbot/tor doesn't solve anything ● May 24 [17:01] schestowitz what is orbot? [17:01] schestowitz I used orweb [17:01] schestowitz on some very old tablet a decade ago [17:02] trttl some android app that you can use as a vpn and it will force all your traffic through tor [17:02] cybrNaut trttl: the code is open, and it can be externally forced to use Tor. If the software update transaction does not send your userid as a precondition to the update, and it's forced over Tor, and it connects to signal assets (not Google) then OWS cannot target you. [17:04] trttl code is not audited [17:04] trttl being open is not an argument [17:04] cybrNaut schestowitz: Orweb was a Tor Browser that used Orbot. It has been obsoleted. I'm not sure if the modern Tor Browser droid app still depends on Orbot, or if it embeds its own Tor wiring [17:04] techrights-bot Humans harming themselves https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/a-possible-light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel-for-gpu-shortages-thanks-to-ethereum [17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A possible light at the end of the tunnel for GPU shortages thanks to Ethereum | GamingOnLinux [17:04] cybrNaut trttl: *you* can see the code. Audits still depend on trust [17:05] cybrNaut trttl: *you* can verify for yourself if the software conforms to your own data minimization requirements [17:05] MinceR i think the concern is that they might send you a package with _different_ ART/native code than what they send to most users [17:05] trttl yeah [17:06] MinceR and in general it's difficult to ensure that what you're running comes from a particular set of source code [17:06] cybrNaut MinceR: right, which is why anonymous software downloads is important [17:06] MinceR right [17:07] cybrNaut it's /possible/ that Signal auto-updates are done in a sensible (anonymous) way, but you have to look at the code to know that [17:07] cybrNaut which is always the case with security apps [17:08] techrights-bot "Blast Brigade vs. the Evil Legion of Dr. Cread from Allods Team Arcade and publisher MY.GAMES has recently been confirmed as getting a Linux version." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/cartoon-like-action-adventure-blast-brigade-vs-the-evil-legion-of-dr-cread-coming-linux [17:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cartoon-like action-adventure Blast Brigade vs. the Evil Legion of Dr. Cread coming Linux | GamingOnLinux [17:08] cybrNaut you always have to either inspect the code, or be satisfied that other trusted people are doing that [17:10] cybrNaut -- for any software that you run [17:11] schestowitz code is code [17:11] cybrNaut and certainly Tor is paramount here, because even if Signal is well coded to not use your userid when updating, the sw server can see your IP and treat you differently. [17:11] schestowitz licence is not code [17:11] schestowitz binaries are sort of code, just not readable [17:11] schestowitz the authors' credibility matter and build process [17:15] trttl but why would a trustworthy service treat you differently based on an ip if there was no outside legal pressure on the service [17:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.50 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 16.38 swarm size (avg): 229.43 [17:19] trttl and if there was such a pressure wouldn't that mean that the user had been already identified because idk.. it's trivial for a legal authority to identify someone based on a phone a number [17:20] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [17:20] AdmFubar https://www.theinformation.com/articles/why-apple-execs-lost-credibility-during-the-epic-trial [17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinformation.com | Why Apple Execs Lost Credibility During the Epic Trial The Information [17:21] AdmFubar https://www.theinformation.com/articles/apple-s-blissful-ignorance-on-app-store-profits [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinformation.com | Apples Blissful Ignorance on App Store Profits The Information [17:21] AdmFubar https://www.theinformation.com/articles/amazons-highway-tragedies-the-informations-411 [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinformation.com | Amazons Highway Tragedies The Informations 411 [17:26] cybrNaut trttl: "if there was no outside legal pressure on the service" <= that's not a safe assumption unless your threat model is purely mass surviellance and excludes targetted surveillance. [17:27] cybrNaut well, even then it's a bad idea to forgo Tor because IP collection is still a mass surveillance factor in other ways (not to distribute malicious s/w, but just to collect a list of users) [17:32] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [17:32] trttl >that's not a safe assumption - if you're assumption is that you're targeted and you're using a service with an account name that is directly tied to your real life you're doing it wrong [17:33] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [17:37] phobos Thats more than doing it wrong... thats asking to be targeted [17:40] trttl you could say that it's possible to sign up with a burner but why even use signal at that point. the main selling point of signal is easy contact discovery which depends on people letting the app to scan their address books to be able to find each other [17:41] *Ariadne has quit (Quit: hopping away, into the sunset) [17:41] *Ariadne (~ariadne@quassel.ariadne.space) has joined #techrights [17:43] trttl if you don't want that there are other e2ee chat softwares that don't require you to go through all the hassle just to get an account anonymously [17:44] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:45] techrights-bot Get Ready for a Torrent of #EPO #Propaganda http://techrights.org/2021/05/24/epo-propaganda-ahead/ #BOA #patent #haar [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Get Ready for a Torrent of EPO Propaganda | Techrights [17:53] techrights-bot #Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151535 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [17:53] *slep is now known as aslep [17:53] *aslep is now known as slep [17:57] cybrNaut trttl: indeed, if targetted surveillance is in your threat model, Signal is not the best choice, but still feasible. It's a matter of getting a burner phone or pinger # just for registration then chucking it. Snowden is targetted for sure, but uses Signal. You can still "do it right" with Signal with targetted model if you know what you're doing. [17:58] cybrNaut phobos: using Signal is "asking to be targeted"? How so? [17:58] MinceR signal's attitude toward f-droid makes me distrust signal [17:59] cybrNaut "you could say that it's possible to sign up with a burner but why even use signal at that point." <= you can't always choose what your correspondants use [17:59] cybrNaut "the main selling point of signal is easy contact discovery " <= if you do it right, the contact discovery feature will be broken ● May 24 [18:00] phobos cybrNaut: Using your real name or a screen name that can be linked to your real identity in this day and age is asking for trouble. There is always someone that will disagree with whatever you have to say or some image you upload. Unfortunately, so many these days can't just accept that someone thinks differently than they do so they try to make all levels of trouble for that person [18:01] phobos Ask some of the people that made comments a decade ago how that worked out [18:01] cybrNaut MinceR: indeed. a lot of things should make you distrust Signal. see https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/779 You can't trust OWS (the Signal makers). [18:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Software Removal | Signal Issue #779 privacytools/privacytools.io GitHub [18:02] techrights-bot "There is a new application available for Sparkers: #RiseupVPN [...] License: #GNU General Public License v3.0" https://sparkylinux.org/riseupvpn/ [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | RiseupVPN SparkyLinux [18:02] phobos and were "canceled" from their jobs and social life how that worked out* [18:03] phobos Many journalists can also tell you how thats working out for them too for reporting the truth about some issues vs the approved narrative [18:04] cybrNaut phobos: it depends on where that ID is presented. Signal does not expose metadata like that. but even if it did, it is "asking to be targetted". That falls into the "everyone who protects themself from snooping is suspicious" thinking, which is what NSA hopes for. [18:04] cybrNaut you should not be afraid to be seen using secure technology [18:06] cybrNaut s/it is asking to be targeted/it is not asking to be targeted/ [18:06] phobos Is there such a thing as secure technology these days? If so, we need to inform credit card companies, banks, fund me sites, etc that all claim to be using secure tech, yet somehow suffer from massive data breeches. Some have even gone on for months before being detected [18:07] phobos *cough* *yahoo* *cough* *capitalone* *cough cough* *equifax* *hack* *chase* [18:08] cybrNaut phobos: security is relative, and something is "secure" if it satisfies your threat model and the risks are lower than the alternatives [18:09] cybrNaut the "nothing is secure" rationale for not pracicing security is defeatist [18:09] phobos If I didn't know better, I'd say that sounds like a case of 'if its just a few breeches in which a few people might have their data exposed, its justifiable.' But I do know better. [18:09] cybrNaut s/pracicing/practicing/ [18:09] phobos Besides, wouldn't it be better if people took a proactive approach to safe guarding their data vs merely relying on a company to do it for them? [18:10] phobos Whether we like it or not, breeches happen despite the most insane security... NASA can tell you about that [18:10] cybrNaut phobos: by avoiding security you expose yourself to even more breaches. The defeatism is a losing propasition either way [18:11] cybrNaut of course you can't have absolute security -- this is not good reason to not practice security and choose hardened tools [18:12] phobos Who said anything about avoiding it? I'm merely saying that maybe people should take a more proactive approach to things. If you value your life and job, or are worried about your family being targeted because you might piss off some liberal, wouldn't it be better to use a screen name that can't be easily traced back to you? [18:12] cybrNaut phobos> Who said anything about avoiding it? <= "Thats more than doing it wrong... thats asking to be targeted" [18:13] phobos Yeah, by using your real name in a social media setting [18:13] cybrNaut using security tools like Signal is not "asking to be targeted" [18:13] cybrNaut Signal is not "social media" because the payload is not public [18:14] phobos Signal... isn't that one of those projects that originated at the NSA? [18:14] phobos Or at least the encryption? [18:14] cybrNaut the metadata is not public either [18:14] *Ariadne has quit (Quit: hopping away, into the sunset) [18:15] cybrNaut phobos: Tor was US Navy invented and CIA funded. That doesn't mean it's sensible to not use it [18:15] phobos I agree with that. I use tor from time to time [18:15] *Noisytoot is now known as noisytoot[gnu] [18:15] cybrNaut Tor is the most protective mechanism for some transactions despite US gov involvement [18:15] phobos but still, it doesn't hurt to be proactive with your data and possible links back to your real identity [18:17] phobos cybrNaut: What do you think of VPN providers? [18:18] cybrNaut they are hard to trust, but if you choose one that's EU-based and you're outside of the EU, it's an improvement over letting your ISP snoop [18:18] cybrNaut i still run Tor over VPN to minimize the VPN's visibility on traffic [18:20] phobos Have any of them over there been caught keeping secret logs like they have here? [18:20] cybrNaut if a VPN server in the EU desides to snoop, at least you still have some legal protections [18:20] phobos https://www.pcmag.com/news/7-vpn-services-found-recording-user-logs-despite-no-log-pledge [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 VPN Services Found Recording User Logs, Despite 'No-Log' Pledge | PCMag [18:21] cybrNaut that's a cloudflare link [18:21] schestowitz :-) [18:21] schestowitz W3Clown [18:21] cybrNaut https://web.archive.org/web/20210316103155/https://www.pcmag.com/news/7-vpn-services-found-recording-user-logs-despite-no-log-pledge [18:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | 7 VPN Services Found Recording User Logs, Despite 'No-Log' Pledge | PCMag [18:23] cybrNaut i think you also have to consider the size of your ISP and the size of the VPN service. If your ISP is AT&T or Comcast, you'd be a fool not to use a VPN because the bigger they are, the better equipped they are to monatize your data [18:24] phobos And CenturyLink aka Qwest [18:24] trttl you can't compare signal to tor. one is a closed and centralized service, a single entity is in full control of both client and server and expects you to tie your identity to your account. using that service requires blind trust. the other one is just not like that at all [18:24] cybrNaut If the VPN is bigger than your ISP, you might be better off without the VPN. [18:24] phobos trttl: I wasn't comparing the two. Merely wondered what cybrNaut thought of VPN [18:25] cybrNaut little guys are financially limited in the extent that they can commercially exploit your data [18:26] baronhk[m]1 16 seems to run it fine. [18:26] cybrNaut trttl: tor & Signal aren't comparable because they're not even the same class of service. And one can aid other -- they should be combined, not compared [18:28] *zleap (~zleap@unaffiliated/zleap) has joined #techrights [18:29] trttl combining the two has little to no benefits [18:29] cybrNaut nonsense [18:29] phobos www.haaretz.com/israel-news/tech-news/.premium-israeli-spy-tech-firm-says-it-can-break-into-signal-app-previously-considered-safe-1.9368581 [18:29] cybrNaut if you are using Signal, you'd be a fool not to use it over Tar [18:29] cybrNaut *Tor [18:33] techrights-bot Gambling on a man-made concept (money) gone 'virtual' and 'online' or 'digital' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewGQcAX6J9I [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I Lost $100,000 - YouTube [18:33] trttl yeah why is that? why do you want to hide your ip from signal if they're such a trustworthy service [18:34] techrights-bot As if there was no better response. https://www.maketecheasier.com/twitter-removes-photo-cropping-algorithm/ [18:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Twitter Removes Photo-Cropping Algorithm After Racial Bias Analysis - Make Tech Easier [18:34] trttl and they don't collect metadata [18:34] techrights-bot Transient prompt with #Zsh Vincent Bernat https://vincent.bernat.ch/en/blog/2021-zsh-transient-prompt #vincentBernat | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/24/#latest [18:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vincent.bernat.ch | Transient prompt with Zsh Vincent Bernat [18:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:35] cybrNaut trttl: "why do you want to hide your ip from signal if they're such a trustworthy service" <= you've answered your own question. If you don't trust them, giving them your IP would be foolish. [18:35] trttl and if they collect metadata they delete it [18:35] techrights-bot The #NeuroFedora meeting is now over https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2021/05/24/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-24-may-1300-utc.html #fedora #redhat #ibm [18:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neuroblog.fedoraproject.org | Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 24 May 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: Blog [18:36] cybrNaut ah, sorry i misread your comment [18:36] cybrNaut Signal Technology Foundation is *not* a trustworthy company [18:37] trttl why would i use a service for sensitive chats if i didn't trust them [18:37] cybrNaut ..which is why you should use Tor [18:37] techrights-bot When you realise your job may be redundant and over-exaggerated https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/web-console-administration [18:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Linux sysadmins: How my six year-old learned to do my job | Enable Sysadmin [18:37] baronhk[m]1 It seems Mozilla VPN is the same cost as Mullvad VPN. [18:37] trttl mozilla vpn is mullvad vpn if i'm correct [18:38] baronhk[m]1 Most likely, the revenue for Mozilla comes from an affiliate revenue share program. So they're not just adding cost to something else. [18:38] trttl malwarebytes vpn is also mullvad vpn [18:38] cybrNaut trttl: you may not need to trust them. But certainly you need to trust the code (which i told you earlier you should inspect) [18:38] trttl mullvad has some whitelabel service or something that they sell to those people [18:39] baronhk[m]1 Actually, 55 cents a month less to go through Mozilla. [18:39] trttl cybrNaut that's not an argument. i can't verify what they do on their servers [18:39] trttl the code they publish is out of date [18:39] baronhk[m]1 It's $5.55 USD at Mullvad or $4.95 a month to use Mozilla's client. [18:40] cybrNaut trttl: you don't need to know what the servers are doing if you know what the client is doing [18:40] cybrNaut of course, notwithstanding the Cellebrite compromize [18:41] trttl i know what the client is doing. the chats ar e2ee but it's up to them what they do with the corresponding metadata [18:41] cybrNaut the Cellebrite compromize, if real, proves you can't trust the client [18:41] trttl the cellebrite thing is more smoke than fire [18:42] cybrNaut trttl: you don't know what the client is doing, because you still think the servers receive the metadata [18:42] trttl they need working exploits to unlock the phone first [18:43] techrights-bot The media campaign of the #EPO is about to kick off, whatever its nature may be (the strategy), with the intention of diverting attention away from kangaroo courts Get Ready for a Torrent of EPO #Propaganda http://techrights.org/2021/05/24/epo-propaganda-ahead/ #Techrights #Europe #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/24/epo-propag [18:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Get Ready for a Torrent of EPO Propaganda | Techrights [18:43] cybrNaut again, metadata does not go to the servers. As I said earlier, the servers know Bob uses Signal, and that Alice uses Signal, but not that Bob talks to Alice [18:44] baronhk[m]1 Wouldn't be the first time they've done it. [18:44] trttl they also know when you receive a message [18:44] techrights-bot #RaspberryPi PoE+ HAT features 25.5W PoE+ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151539 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi PoE+ HAT features 25.5W PoE+ | Tux Machines [18:44] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151538 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:44] trttl and before the sealed sender feature they also knew when you sent one [18:44] techrights-bot The #Librem 14 comes with new software heres some of the new things coming your way http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151537 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:44] trttl all it takes is correlation [18:44] baronhk[m]1 They don't always move in on criminals that they catch using this stuff because most aren't worth blowing their cover. [18:45] trttl to figure out who talks to whom [18:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Recv failure: Connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151537 ) [18:47] trttl not to mention how they tricked their users to upload their profiles with the introduction of an ambiguously explained feature [18:48] cybrNaut trttl: that doesn't make sense. If Bob sends a msg to Alice and needs to ping the server 1st, she may or may not reply, and that reply can come at any time. There is no timing attack possiblity there [18:49] cybrNaut there are just too many users for that to be viable [18:50] trttl https://signal.org/blog/sealed-sender/ [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-signal.org | NO TITLE [18:50] trttl https://signal.org/blog/signal-pins/ [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-signal.org | NO TITLE [18:50] trttl read those [18:51] cybrNaut i've read that sealed-sender blog already [18:53] techrights-bot Word through the grapevine: many #ibm #layoffs this week https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs [18:54] techrights-bot "If #IBM sticks to their past behavior, this week should be interesting." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aIvibXK#replies [18:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The Barber is In - post regarding IBM layoffs [18:54] trttl that sealed sender feature was introduced less than 2 years ago and is enabled for your contacts only [18:56] cybrNaut trttl: that blog actually emphasizes the importance of tor. The server only knows 1 party to the transaction, but if the other party's IP address is exposed, it knows both parties [18:57] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151540 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:58] trttl here's an opinion on the second post [18:58] trttl https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2020/07/10/a-few-thoughts-about-signals-secure-value-recovery/ [18:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cryptographyengineering.com | Why is Signal asking users to set a PIN, or A few thoughts on Secure Value Recovery A Few Thoughts on Cryptographic Engineering ● May 24 [19:03] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/kt4zyP4.jpeg [19:07] psydroid that writing system is completely messed up [19:08] MinceR :> [19:09] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/04/translation-what-biblical-tower-of.html?showComment=1621791025911#c4312764634420087321 [19:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Translation: What the Biblical Tower of Babel can teach us about Netflix - The IPKat [19:09] schestowitz "I think the author of this story completely misses what was going on at the Tower of Babel. I suggest a Mike Heiser video for the back story. Babel is linked to the events of Genesis 6 and the depravity of humanity. The tower was a center for worship as humans were trying to barter with the spirit realm. Josephus also tells us about the animosity Nimrod had towards God. The only thing Netflix has in common with that is seemingly [19:09] schestowitz endless stream of videos on the occult and making it appealing to people. This is all together evil and Netflix is despicable for it" [19:09] schestowitz MinceR: yes, those names I see a lot [19:09] schestowitz but would never attempt to read them out loud [19:09] schestowitz guaranteed senior moment [19:12] techrights-bot Patrick Wingrove still battling for litigation, losing sight of the real purpose of #patents because his owners, the sponsors, profit from lawsuits https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rxk39dzkjjg0/the-patent-pilot-program-is-ending-what-next [19:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | The Patent Pilot Program is ending what next? | Managing Intellectual Property [19:15] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [19:15] techrights-bot #patent #monopoly on dogs becoming too fat :-) https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gnubiotics-gains-allowance-of-patent-of-microbiome-markers-for-prediction-identification-and-treatment-of-pet-obesity-from-the-european-patent-office-301297533.html [19:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Gnubiotics gains allowance of patent of microbiome markers for prediction, identification and treatment of pet obesity from the European Patent Office [19:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 24.10 swarm size (avg): 229.50 [19:18] techrights-bot Can we stop calling #patents "Intellectual Property"? They're not property, they're not protection (but protectionism), and definitely not rights. All those loaded terms are lies and propaganda, intended to tilt the premises in debates, rendering them meaningless https://www.thechemicalengineer.com/features/protecting-intellectual-property-in-the-chemical-engineering-field/ [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thechemicalengineer.com | Protecting Intellectual Property in the Chemical Engineering Field - Features - The Chemical Engineer [19:18] baronhk[m]1 "low-cost Hungarian carrier Wizz Air" [19:18] baronhk[m]1 Don't Wizz on the electric fence! [19:18] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [19:20] techrights-bot Please quit calling #patents "rights" and "property"; such dishonesty is a sign of desperation from those unable to win an argument, and then citing the hugely corrupt EPO for evidence or 'proof'. This is rather appalling. https://www.mondaq.com/australia/trademark/1069302/the-tangible-benefits-of-intangible-ip-rights [19:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | The tangible benefits of intangible IP rights - Intellectual Property - Australia [19:23] techrights-bot This helps distract from the major Boards of Appeal scandal, a case in which the practice of outsourcing courts to GAFAM+ in violation of #GDPR and #EPC will be discussed by a #kangaroocourt https://www.maiwald.eu/en/news/maiwald-blog/article/epo-no-backdoor-entry-for-new-third-party-observations-in-appeal-proceedings-t-225515/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/illusion-of-peace-in-haar/ [19:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maiwald.eu | Maiwald [19:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 18: Promoting the Illusion of Peace and Haar-mony | Techrights [19:24] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: Whatz Wizz your humour today? [19:26] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/17/59ddb796b1c043d0.gif [19:35] techrights-bot When you grant people a monopoly but still refuse to enable exclusivity (albeit at a cost to competitors) http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/24/japan-compulsory-license/ [19:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Japan Compulsory License - Kluwer Patent Blog [19:40] techrights-bot #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #security https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/powershell-source-of-third-of-critical-security-threats/ #PowerShell #crap [19:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esecurityplanet.com | PowerShell Is Source of More Than a Third of Critical Security Threats [19:41] techrights-bot Has #geminiProtocol become popular enough and #geminiSpace large enough for international in-person meetings/events? https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006564.html #internet [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini meetup? [19:42] techrights-bot #suse is promoting #sap #proprietarySoftware instead of #freesw ... and moreover attacks the founder of Free software and GNU/Linux https://www.suse.com/c/supreme-petrochem-expands-business-whilst-securing-a-greener-future-in-partnership-with-suse/ [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supreme Petrochem expands business whilst securing a greener future, in partnership with SUSE | SUSE Communities [19:45] techrights-bot German Parliament for #hollywood http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/guest-post-de-minimis-uses-and-german.html #de #germany #copyright #eu [19:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] De minimis uses and the German implementation of Art 17 DSM Directive - The IPKat [19:47] techrights-bot As expected, the wonderful Prost is moving on. She did a great job at #CAFC and crushed many #softwarepatents in the US. Moore should carry on her legacy... https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/chief-judge-kimberly.html #swpats [19:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Chief Judge Kimberly Moore | Patently-O [19:49] techrights-bot "I am trying R 4.1 in a schroot experimental container, while waiting that Bullseye's release will allow the package to be uploaded to Sid and the needed dependencies to be recompiled." http://charles.plessy.org/Debian/debi%C3%A2neries/r-4.1/ [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-charles.plessy.org | Trying R 4.1 [19:49] techrights-bot Use #falkon instead. It is very stable and #freesw unlike #chrome https://www.slashgear.com/chrome-crashing-on-windows-10-and-linux-now-has-a-fix-23674140/ [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chrome crashing on Windows 10 and Linux now has a fix - SlashGear [19:51] *KindOne (kindone@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #techrights [19:52] *psydroid uploaded an image: (175KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NKprKHRTmxvrpIAatLiXaUvW/Screenshot_2021-05-24_20-50-59.png > [19:53] psydroid That's a "great" way to build a "community" [19:54] techrights-bot Who owns "the industry"? Who turned #trademark #law into such a farce? https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/confusion-the-industry.html #trademarks [19:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Confusion in the INDUSTRY | Patently-O [19:56] techrights-bot If you legalise drugs, then the lawyers and other vultures will claim to 'own' them, calling it "property" and stuff https://www.regimbeau.eu/REGIMBEAU/Web/Pages/Article.aspx?Language=EN&Article_Id=714 [19:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.regimbeau.eu | REGIMBEAU - Conseils en Proprit Industrielle, European Patent and Trademark Attorneys [19:57] techrights-bot Full Circle Weekly News #211 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-211/ #gnu #linux [19:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Weekly News #211 | Full Circle Magazine [19:58] techrights-bot #DogLinux is releaed https://gumanzoy.blogspot.com/2021/05/liveusb-1100mb-doglinux-debian-11.html #debian #gnu #linux [19:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gumanzoy.blogspot.com | gumanzoy's blog: LiveUSB 1100MB DogLinux Debian 11 Bullseye (nvidia-drivers, FurMark, Unigine Heaven, ddrescue, WHDD, DMDE) , , ● May 24 [20:00] techrights-bot Why on Earth are #patents being granted on life and nature as if those are inventions? Because lobbying, bribery and entryism basically shadow-write the laws? Or break the law ever so nonchalantly? https://www.natlawreview.com/article/uc-berkeley-crispr-patent-revoked-europe-due-to-invalid-priority-claim #epo [20:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | EPO Revokes UC Berkeley CRISPR Patent [20:01] *v8 (~MurdochW@freenode/staff/v8) has joined #techrights [20:01] techrights-bot Gnubiotics has nothing to do with GNU or with animals; it's just another monopolisation attempt, making money from overweight animals https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/gnubiotics-gains-allowance-of-patent-of-microbiome-markers-for-prediction-identification-and-treatment-of-pet-obesity-from-the-european-patent-office/ [20:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gnubiotics gains allowance of patent of microbiome markers for prediction, identification and treatment of pet obesity from the European Patent Office | BioSpace [20:02] techrights-bot Life without #Patents and #Copyright https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol190-on-life-without-patents-and-copyright-panel-discussion-pfs-2015/ #Kinsella on #monopoly ... [20:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL190 | Part 2: On Life without Patents and Copyright: Or, But Who Would Pick the Cotton? Panel Discussion, Hoppe, Drr, Kinsella, van Dun, Daniels (PFS 2015) [20:05] techrights-bot "This new release brings #Armadillo 10.5.0 which was released early on Friday. We had done one full test in the 10.5 rc1 prerelease one week earlier, and did another test on 10.5.0 and this 0.10.5.0.0 #RcppArmadillo release just for added rigour." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/05/23#rcpparmadillo_0.10.5.0.0 [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box [20:07] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [20:07] *downey[m] (michaeldow@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ctwctgkjqywxiyak) has joined #techrights [20:07] techrights-bot #TuxedoComputers Releases Powerful New #GNU #Linux Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151387#comment-29744 [20:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDOs Latest Linux Laptop is All About the Screen | Tux Machines [20:10] techrights-bot More than 80 #Linux devs called on to help to fix mess created by rogue contributors [sic] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29743 [20:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Heres Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines [20:12] techrights-bot New #RaspberryPi PoE+ HAT handles up to 25.5 Watts http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151539#comment-29745 #gnu #linux [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi PoE+ HAT features 25.5W PoE+ | Tux Machines [20:13] techrights-bot "In this episode, Josepha Haden Chomphosy provides a map of how to navigate #WordPress teams and communication channels, along with her small list of big things." https://wordpress.org/news/2021/05/episode-9-the-cartography-of-wordpress/ [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News Episode 9: The Cartography of WordPress WordPress.org [20:14] MinceR 24 205227 * psydroid uploaded an image: (175KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NKprKHRTmxvrpIAatLiXaUvW/Screenshot_2021-05-24_20-50-59.png > [20:14] MinceR looks like the author doesn't know what "run out" means [20:15] techrights-bot "Evolved for the digital economy, #IBM #LinuxONE gives businesses the security of confidential computing, lightning-fast processing speed, and unparalleled reliability and availability features." https://www.suse.com/c/ibm-linuxone-and-suse-key-components-of-hybrid-cloud-infrastructure/ [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM LinuxONE and SUSE Key Components of Hybrid Cloud Infrastructure for Every Business | SUSE Communities [20:16] techrights-bot Visualizing performance in #RedHat Enterprise #Linux 8.4 web console https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/visualizing-performance-red-hat-enterprise-linux-84-web-console [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Visualizing performance in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 web console [20:18] techrights-bot #opensuse : just don't be a nazi (note that many neo-nazis have long chosen and used SUSE, but the company won't talk about it) https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NKprKHRTmxvrpIAatLiXaUvW/Screenshot_2021-05-24_20-50-59.png [20:19] schestowitz [19:53] That's a "great" way to build a "community" [20:19] schestowitz dilute it [20:19] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/ [20:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Theres Apparently a New Boss (or Policy) at Red Hat/IBM | Techrights [20:20] techrights-bot Sometimes you feel like large corporations attack the communities that make and maintain/build the software, even the very same communities that devote all their time to corporate distros disguised as "open" http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/ [20:22] techrights-bot #ibm : you cannot contribute to #fedora if you [some political waffle] because we're professional and we tolerate no [really horrible thing], except our founder's ... we STILL call products after him! http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [20:23] techrights-bot Apparently more #ibm #layoffs in 3 days (not sporadic but large-scale), based on powwow https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [20:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:24] *wineroots has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:25] *schestowitz gives voice to AdmFubar AVRS cubexyz DiffieHellman [20:25] *schestowitz gives voice to downey[m] DVulgaris gde33 GNUmoon [20:25] *schestowitz gives voice to GuySoft KindOne mmu_man noisytoot[gnu] [20:25] *schestowitz gives voice to opal openJ psymin qa5 [20:25] *schestowitz gives voice to rianne search_social sepsinn tagglink [20:25] *schestowitz gives voice to ubuntourist v8 xgqt zleap [20:32] techrights-bot #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC Now Ready for Testing with Linux 5.12, Official AMD #Vulkan Driver http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151542 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC Now Ready for Testing with Linux 5.12, Official AMD Vulkan Driver | Tux Machines [20:32] techrights-bot #Why #KeePass instead of self-hosting #Bitwarden http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151541 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why KeePass instead of self-hosting Bitwarden | Tux Machines [20:45] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [20:51] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights ● May 24 [21:09] CrystalMath rasengan[llf]: hi! is there any truth to the new thing people are saying, that you want to reduce off-topic channels on freenode? [21:17] *koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [21:17] rasengan[llf] CrystalMath: what? lol [21:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.61 swarm size (avg): 229.58 [21:19] CrystalMath rasengan[llf]: someone actually asked me to check because they believed it [21:19] CrystalMath but yeah it's clearly nonsense [21:26] techrights-bot Keep tabs on your Linux computer specs with this desktop application https://opensource.com/article/21/5/linux-kinfocenter #gnu #linux [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Keep tabs on your Linux computer specs with this desktop application | Opensource.com [21:26] *ubuntourist has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:29] *tr_guest|2774 (4f2a3b57@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.42.59.87) has joined #techrights [21:30] *tr_guest|2774 has quit (Client Quit) [21:37] *noisytoot[gnu] is now known as Noisytoot [21:40] techrights-bot #Shutter Screenshot Tool May Soon Make its Re-entry to the Ubuntu Repository http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151543 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shutter Screenshot Tool May Soon Make its Re-entry to the Ubuntu Repository | Tux Machines [21:41] techrights-bot Daniel Stenberg: The #curl user survey 2021 https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/05/24/the-curl-user-survey-2021/ #freesw #deletegithub [21:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The curl user survey 2021 | daniel.haxx.se [21:45] techrights-bot Intel AMX Support Continues Being Prepped For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-AMX-Linux-Kernel-v5 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/24/#latest [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel AMX Support Continues Being Prepped For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:45] *KindTwo (kindone@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #techrights [21:46] *KindOne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:47] schestowitz [21:09] rasengan[llf]: hi! is there any truth to the new thing people are saying, that you want to reduce off-topic channels on freenode? [21:47] schestowitz sounds like BS [21:48] *KindTwo is now known as KindOne [21:48] CrystalMath schestowitz: yeah it is [21:53] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:57] schestowitz does not pass the most basic 'smell test' [21:57] schestowitz if they said "abusive channels", maybe... [21:57] schestowitz depending on what that term means ● May 24 [22:09] techrights-bot #irc wars have no winners, except those looking to undermine IRC as communication means https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c1646791c61953 [22:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | freenode-irc-drama-and-goodbye.md GitHub [22:10] techrights-bot Ritesh Raj Sarraf: #Kget Goodness http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151544 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw [22:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ritesh Raj Sarraf: Kget Goodness | Tux Machines [22:16] CrystalMath schestowitz: no, the original post literally says "off-topic channels" (not free software project channels) [22:16] CrystalMath schestowitz: but i don't want to quote it as it's actually nasty, i should have read that first [22:16] CrystalMath it's so obviously false [22:17] schestowitz https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c1646791c61953 [22:17] schestowitz points out the pollution of misinformation [22:17] CrystalMath what happened was that someone i know was concerned about this after reading the post [22:17] schestowitz that's why I keep asking many questions [22:17] schestowitz I focused on patents today [22:17] schestowitz I've moved on like prawnsalad [22:18] schestowitz because the faster we move on, the less damage will be done [22:18] schestowitz friendly fires [22:18] schestowitz (not so) [22:21] techrights-bot #Lakka : Turns Your #RaspberryPi Into Gaming Console http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151481#comment-29746 #gnu #linux [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lakka 3.0 release | Tux Machines [22:21] *inky (~inky@46.162.229.201) has joined #techrights [22:21] *schestowitz gives voice to inky [22:24] *opal has quit (Quit: leaving freenode, find me on other networks or ) [22:25] techrights-bot #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC available for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151545 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Mandriva [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC available for testing | Tux Machines [22:28] techrights-bot Well, Igor should just migrate 100% to #gnu #linux then https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-10-remove-annoyance-cloud-integration-20h2.html his #vista10 articles are a waste of space IME.... [22:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Windows 10 annoyances - Episode 9000 [22:31] techrights-bot Linux in the Ham (LHS) Episode #414: IRCsome Internet Politics https://lhspodcast.info/2021/05/lhs-episode-414-ircsome-internet-politics-2/ let's move on and beyond these #irc disputes for some calm. [22:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #414: IRCsome Internet Politics | Linux in the Ham Shack [22:33] techrights-bot Jonathan Dowland: Answering my own Template #Haskell question https://jmtd.net/log/answering_myself/ #programming [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jmtd.net | jmtd log Answering my own Template Haskell question [22:34] schestowitz [22:34] [Whois] downey[m] is online via niven.freenode.net (London, UK, EU). [22:34] schestowitz UK, EU :-) [22:35] MinceR :) [22:35] schestowitz welcome back [22:36] schestowitz https://archlinux.org/news/move-of-official-irc-channels-to-liberachat/ [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archlinux.org | Arch Linux - News: Move of official IRC channels to libera.chat [22:37] schestowitz zero gain [22:37] schestowitz https://anarc.at/blog/2021-05-24-leaving-freenode/ [22:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anarc.at | Leaving Freenode - anarcat [22:38] *tagglink has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:40] techrights-bot #RedHat Scores A Huge DM Optimization For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-DM-Optimization #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/24/#latest [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Scores A Huge DM Optimization For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:41] techrights-bot A Candid (And SCARY) Conversation About #Internet #Privacy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPvkstJAx1Y but they use #google YouTube as platform ^_^ #gnu #linux [22:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Candid (And SCARY) Conversation About Internet Privacy - YouTube [22:42] techrights-bot "In a recent video about Audacity I had a few people ask me what is means to have a vendored dependency, I had assumed this was common knowledge so I didn't both explaining but here's a dedicated video on the topic anyway." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp_gUaA2FR0 [22:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Really Is A Vendored Dependency? - YouTube [22:45] techrights-bot Videos/Shows: Brodie Robertson, Privacy, Linux in the Ham Shack,GNU World Order and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151546 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Shows: Brodie Robertson, Privacy, Linux in the Ham Shack, GNU World Order and More | Tux Machines [22:45] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [22:47] schestowitz wb, stormchaser3000 [22:47] stormchaser3000 Hello [22:49] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151547 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:52] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat : Linux, Java, RHEL, LinuxONE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151548 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Linux, Java, RHEL, LinuxONE | Tux Machines [22:55] techrights-bot Formula Student racer runs #Ubuntu on Comet Lake Mini-ITX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151549 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Formula Student racer runs Ubuntu on Comet Lake Mini-ITX | Tux Machines [22:58] techrights-bot #Entroware Unleashes a Beast of a Linux Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151426#comment-29747 #gnu #linux [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware Proteus is a Linux Laptop for Getting Things Done | Tux Machines [22:59] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● May 24 [23:01] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:07] techrights-bot Bragging about #military connections https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tuxcare-services-cloudlinux-help-support-171000888.html #almalinux #clownLinux [23:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | TuxCare Services from CloudLinux Help Support U.S. Department of Defense and Space Force National Security Mission [23:07] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.104) has joined #techrights [23:07] techrights-bot #Linux and #Graphics : Intel, NVIDIA, #Ethereum http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151550 #TuxMachines [23:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics: Intel, NVIDIA, Ethereum | Tux Machines [23:09] baronhk[m]1 I don't see how DuckDuckGo needs to have an entire browser. [23:10] MinceR google has several, they need to compete [23:10] schestowitz lol [23:10] schestowitz does it? [23:10] MinceR there's one on android, apparently [23:10] schestowitz maybe Microsoft will sponsor it [23:10] schestowitz and base it on chromium code :-) [23:10] schestowitz hard-linked to MS Azure :-) [23:10] MinceR what else are they going to base it on, firefox? :) [23:10] schestowitz Microsoft satellite to privacy-wash the thugs [23:10] schestowitz DDG is a joke [23:11] schestowitz people who use it are misled [23:11] schestowitz maybe by ads [23:11] schestowitz maybe they read the in-forum ads [23:11] schestowitz DDG interjects propaganda into technical forums [23:11] schestowitz like reddit and stackexchange [23:11] schestowitz overflow [23:12] Redfoxmoon DDG might not be perfect, but it's not the goog [23:16] techrights-bot "In 2019, I wrote a zine about SQL. When I started, I thought it would be easy because I was pretty comfortable with SQL Id done a LOT of data analysis in SQL and so I thought I could explain it." https://jvns.ca/blog/2021/05/24/blog-about-what-you-ve-struggled-with/ [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | Blog about what you've struggled with [23:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.90 swarm size (avg): 229.67 [23:16] techrights-bot #GNOMEFoundation Board Elections 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151553 #GNU #GNOME #Linux #TuxMachines [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Foundation Board Elections 2021 | Tux Machines [23:17] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151552 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:19] schestowitz Redfoxmoon: it's Microsoft [23:19] schestowitz Google/Microsoft = false dichotomy [23:22] techrights-bot What is #GNOMEFoundation http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation lots of #IBM and #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2020/06/07/gnome-board-of-directors-2020/ [23:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation - Techrights [23:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | All of GNOME Board of Directors Works on (for?) Microsoft GitHub | Techrights [23:24] techrights-bot "that is nothing to do with #IBM , the fund is outsourced to a pension company." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY56fW7#replies [23:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Pension - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:25] techrights-bot "The working number that IBM has to remove in 2021 and 2022 via layoffs, spin-offs, retirement, attrition, and over stuffing GTS is 100k more or less. Approx 180k headcount is the number that new #IBM has to get down to to be competitive." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [23:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:30] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:30] *GuySoft has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [23:40] *Harry86 (4356c118@ool-4356c118.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #techrights [23:43] schestowitz him Harry86 [23:45] *XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Gateway shutdown) [23:45] *XRevan86 (7018dab47d@mate/developer/xrevan86) has joined #techrights [23:46] cybrNaut baronhk[m]1> I don't see how DuckDuckGo needs to have an entire browser. <= after reading someone's essay "the tyranny of convenience", i realized that DDG's big mission to become the default search engine in browsers is all about exploiting convenience. having their own browser would leverage the same.. they would be their own default search engine, and they would likely hard-code it [23:48] cybrNaut Redfoxmoon> DDG might not be perfect, but it's not the goog <= calling DDG "imperfect" is an unjust distortion. most search engines are not perfect, but DDG is too far from perfect to be called merely "imperfect" [23:48] schestowitz FB tried it [23:48] schestowitz also at OS level [23:48] schestowitz for mobile [23:48] cybrNaut baronhk[m]1: see http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [23:49] techrights-bot #Debian Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151554 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:49] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151555 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [23:49] techrights-bot Links 24/5/2021: #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC, #GZDoom 4.6.0 http://techrights.org/2021/05/24/openmandriva-lx-4-3-rc/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/24/openmandriva-lx-4-3-rc/ [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/5/2021: OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 RC, GZDoom 4.6.0 | Techrights [23:50] cybrNaut Redfoxmoon: the closest search engine to perfection is Ss. https://sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion/ [23:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion/ ) [23:51] techrights-bot Maintenance release: #GodotEngine 3.3.2 https://godotengine.org/article/maintenance-release-godot-3-3-2 #games [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Maintenance release: Godot 3.3.2 [23:51] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [23:52] techrights-bot This can run under #gnu #linux too (albeit #ProprietarySoftware with #drm :( ) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/scs-put-up-an-open-beta-for-multiplayer-in-euro-truck-sim-2-and-american-truck-sim [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SCS put up an open Beta for multiplayer in Euro Truck Sim 2 and American Truck Sim | GamingOnLinux [23:54] techrights-bot "And thereve been some interesting developments in the Linux smartphone space recently." Lots of phones based on #gnu #linux (yes, GNU also) https://liliputing.com/2021/05/lilbits-linux-phones-and-laptops-gaming-on-the-surface-duo-and-is-netflix-the-netflix-for-games.html [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lilbits: Linux phones and laptops, gaming on the Surface Duo, and is Netflix the Netflix for games? - Liliputing [23:54] schestowitz cybrNaut: how about https://private.sh/how-it-works.html ? [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How does it work | Private.sh - the search engine that cryptographically protects your privacy [23:54] *CrystalMath is now known as CrystalMath[llf] [23:54] schestowitz Have you heard of it? [23:57] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:58] techrights-bot "Fuck that bug" https://www.supergoodcode.com/breaking/ #linux #graphics #zink [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supergoodcode.com | Breaking Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code. [23:59] techrights-bot Authenticated hashes for btrfs (part 1) https://kdave.github.io/authenticated-hashes-for-btrfs-part1/ #linux #btrfs #kernel #deletegithub [23:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdave.github.io | Authenticated hashes for btrfs (part 1)