●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 24, 2021 ●● ● Jun 24 [00:01] techrights-bot/fn #fsf / #gnu has just made its own copy of the #rms video with people in #brazil http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/rms-2021-05-31-debxp.webm [00:01] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (connection closed) [00:02] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [00:02] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! 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[00:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | There's no 'Skype' in Teams: Microsoft lets signing key for its Debian Skype repository slip gently into the night The Register [00:23] techrights-bot/fn #Email Bug Allows Message Snooping, Credential Theft | Threatpost https://threatpost.com/email-bug-message-snooping-credential-theft/167125/ #threatpost | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/24/#latest [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Email Bug Allows Message Snooping, Credential Theft | Threatpost [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:24] techrights-bot/fn #nsa elevated by #biden admin. This is more of the same. https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/21/in_brief_security/ [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Ex-NSA bigwig Chris Inglis appointed America's national cyber director by Senate The Register [00:26] techrights-bot/fn What's that hurtling down the Bifrst? Node-based network fun with #Yggdrasil 0.4 https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/21/yggdrasil_04_rc/ they need to #deletegithub https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/2021/06/19/preparing-for-v0-4.html [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | What's that hurtling down the Bifrst? Node-based network fun with Yggdrasil 0.4 The Register [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yggdrasil-network.github.io | Preparing for Yggdrasil v0.4 | Yggdrasil Network [00:27] techrights-bot/fn Browser maker erects web search engine beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152588#comment-30045 [00:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brave Search Engine Opens For Beta Testing | Tux Machines [00:27] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:28] techrights-bot/fn The term "sideloading" is a malicious misnomer put forth by tyrants like #apple https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/23/apple_ios_sideloading_apps_congress/ [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Apple scrambles to quash iOS app sideloading demands with 'think of the children' defense The Register [00:29] techrights-bot/fn #Veracode is still a source of FUD, but unlike #blackDuck it doesn't have the #microsoft access and media connections to wage the same magnitude of FUD. It's their sales pitch. http://techrights.org/wiki/Black_Duck [00:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Black Duck - Techrights [00:32] techrights-bot/fn 'Data saves lives' https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/22/uk_health_secretary_data_saves_lives/ yea, some data, eh? Ask IBM... http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | UK health secretary Matt Hancock follows delay to GP data grab with campaign called 'Data saves lives' The Register [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights [00:36] techrights-bot/fn Google is trying to overhaul the Bluetooth stack on your Chromebook... again https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/06/22/google-is-trying-to-fix-the-bluetooth-stack-on-your-chromebook-again/ same Gulag that has put back doors inside the #linux #kernel and only removed these after backlash [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Google is trying to overhaul the Bluetooth stack on your Chromebook... again [00:37] techrights-bot/fn #facebook has grim vision of the future... https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/facebook-filed-a-patent-for-an-ar-hat-the-latest-in-its-evolving-ar-push/602256/ [00:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.socialmediatoday.com | Facebook Filed a Patent For an AR Hat, The Latest in its Evolving AR Push | Social Media Today [00:42] techrights-bot/fn #KDE Plasma 5.22: The best KDE to date http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152617 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.22: The best KDE to date | Tux Machines [00:43] techrights-bot/fn " #iXsystems , the leader in Open Source storage, announced the general availability of #TrueCommand 2.0, the second major release of the single-pane-of-glass management system that simplifies the monitoring and control of fleets of systems running #TrueNAS CORE, Enterprise, or SCALE." https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/544409138/truecommand-2-0-enables-truenas-clusters [00:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.einnews.com | TrueCommand 2.0 Enables TrueNAS Clusters - EIN Presswire [00:45] techrights-bot/fn Stanfords New Open-Source Software for Designing Sustainable Cities https://scitechdaily.com/stanfords-new-open-source-software-for-designing-sustainable-cities/ #freesw [00:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scitechdaily.com | Stanfords New Open-Source Software for Designing Sustainable Cities [00:46] techrights-bot/fn his free software is inspired by FL Studio and is an open source DAW created by a group of programming volunteers. https://www.techshout.com/features/2021/23/free-beat-making-software/ #freesw #music [00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-13 Best Free Beat Making Software For Music Production - TechShout [00:48] techrights-bot/fn #microsoft attack on #linuc carried on (no paywall for this link) https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/860607/ef7cdf174ccbe54d/ see http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pulling GitHub into the kernel process [LWN.net] [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Warning: Microsoft Tim and Microsofts New Mole Inside Linux Foundation Board (a Paid-For Seat) Liaise to Outsource Linux Development to Microsofts Proprietary Software Trap | Techrights [00:48] techrights-bot/fn #microsoft attack on #linux carries on (no paywall for this link) https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/860607/ef7cdf174ccbe54d/ see http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ [00:59] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 68.70 swarm size (avg): 305.01 ● Jun 24 [01:04] techrights-bot/fn Links 24/6/2021: End of Akademy 2021 and Good News From SCOTUS (About PTAB) http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/good-news-from-scotus/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/23/good-news-from-scotus/ [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/6/2021: End of Akademy 2021 and Good News From SCOTUS (About PTAB) | Techrights [01:06] techrights-bot/fn #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152618 [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-bot/fn todays kernel leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152619 [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's kernel leftovers | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-bot/fn #Mozilla Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152620 [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-bot/fn Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152621 [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [01:08] techrights-bot/fn Detailed test of Brave Search (beta) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152622 [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Detailed test of Brave Search (beta) | Tux Machines [01:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6fhpq2xutnra4.irc) has joined #techrights [01:15] schestowitz Ariadne: Pocock wrote an email to clarify something [01:15] schestowitz it's a lie that he mentored his g/f [01:15] schestowitz he apparently reads some IRC logs [01:15] schestowitz his reponse; [01:15] schestowitz > There are various comments in IRC about me mentoring a girlfriend in GSoC [01:15] schestowitz > [01:15] schestowitz > This is a Debian and FSFE lie. I never had any girlfriend in GSoC or [01:15] schestowitz > Outreachy. Nobody appears to challenge that in IRC. [01:15] schestowitz > [01:15] schestowitz > Here are the facts: [01:15] schestowitz > [01:15] schestowitz > 2016, Nicolas Dandrimont asked[1] me to mentor his girlfriend. That is [01:15] schestowitz > Dandrimont's girlfriend, Pauline Pommeret, she is/was not my girlfriend [01:15] schestowitz > [01:15] schestowitz > 2018, [01:15] schestowitz > - the Ubuntu employee was a mentor, he had a relationship with a female [01:16] schestowitz > intern at DebConf [01:16] schestowitz > [01:16] schestowitz > 2019, [01:16] schestowitz > - Ubuntu mentor hooks up with same student (not the girl sitting next to [01:16] schestowitz > Lamb) [01:16] schestowitz > - Lamb creates the Outreachy internship for the Albanian girl [01:16] schestowitz > - the Albanian girl only wrote 3 reports. Other interns write a report [01:16] schestowitz > every week for 12 weeks. [01:16] schestowitz > [01:16] schestowitz > I did not want to write about Pauline Pommeret. The only reason these [01:16] schestowitz > things are published is to show that it was not me. I am not doxing [01:16] schestowitz > anybody. If people make a false accusation against me, there is [01:16] schestowitz > justification to publish the proof that it was somebody else. That is a [01:16] schestowitz > legitimate and proportionate defense. [01:16] schestowitz > [01:16] schestowitz > There are other conflict of interest situations too, for example, the [01:16] schestowitz > LLW scandal[2]. I was never in any of those situations. [01:16] schestowitz > [01:16] schestowitz > In every case, you can see they drew the first blood. They made some [01:16] schestowitz > defamation first and it was followed by some inconvenient publications [01:16] schestowitz > about the origin of the wrongdoing. [01:16] schestowitz > [01:16] schestowitz > If people spread this story again, please ask them "which woman is [01:16] schestowitz > Daniel's girlfriend?" or "which year?" or "where did you read this?", [01:16] schestowitz > "are you confused with Dandrimont's girlfriend?" [01:16] schestowitz > [01:16] schestowitz > [01:16] schestowitz > 1. [01:16] schestowitz > https://debian.community/nicolas-dandrimont-maria-climent-pommeret-outreachy-gsoc-conflict-of-interest-policy/ [01:16] schestowitz > 2. https://fsfellowship.eu/2019/01/26/fsfe-behavior-standards.html [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debian.community | Nicolas Dandrimont, Pauline (or Maria) Climent-Pommeret & Debian, Outreachy, GSoC Conflict of Interest policy scandals [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfellowship.eu | FSFE behavior standards [01:16] schestowitz > [01:18] CrystalMath it's fairly clear to me at least that debian and FSFE are corrupt beyond repair [01:21] schestowitz seems like there are projection tactics [01:21] schestowitz e.g. the person who criticises us is what we are [01:22] schestowitz anyway, he emailed me this, I did not ask him or anything [01:22] schestowitz nice to know the IRC logs have that much of a readership though [01:22] XRevan86 Does he not have an IRC client? [01:23] schestowitz no idea, not that I know of [01:23] XRevan86 schestowitz: I am not writing my thoughts concisely here, or with any effort for that matter, and a lot of people read that? :) [01:26] schestowitz I could grep recent logs, but that would count bots too [01:26] schestowitz and not include gemini etc. [01:26] schestowitz ipfs.. [01:26] XRevan86 schestowitz: By the way, is it possible to omit hosts from join/part messages that get recorded in the log? [01:28] schestowitz not trivially [01:29] schestowitz also, no IPs in these anymore [01:29] XRevan86 That's good, yes. [01:29] schestowitz I got part 15 of the EPO series [01:29] schestowitz I will publish it hours later [01:31] XRevan86 No "@ FreeNode" this time? :) It's not even the proper capitalisation (although maybe now it is). 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[02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 [02:40] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [02:42] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-06-23.txt [02:54] leah anything crazy happen lately? [02:54] leah i've not been here for the lst few days [02:57] Ariadne schestowitz: i see [02:59] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 35.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 76.76 swarm size (avg): 304.71 ● Jun 24 [03:02] Ariadne well, regardless, it is extraordinarily difficult for me to assume good faith with mr. pocock's claims, given the behavior he has shown towards the debian and fedora communities [03:02] Ariadne i should also note that all of these people talk about how they are against "cancel culture", yet debian.community literally exists to cancel people [03:03] Ariadne if he wants to make the case that "everyone involved is being an asshole" okay, fine [03:03] Ariadne but debian.community speaks for itself really [03:05] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [03:06] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [03:06] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 135173 total Total pages: 35935 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 weeks 1 days ago [03:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.4 GB TotalOut: 521 MB [03:06] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:07] *job (~job@92hej83cu4x5n.irc) has joined #techrights [03:08] Ariadne i support his right to defend himself against whatever allegations he deems false. i do not support his present tactics of defending against those allegations (impersonation of people on mailing lists, doxing people on debian.community, running fake planet websites that misappropriate debian & fedora branding, ...) [03:08] techrights-ipfs-bot QmcN8yR7Z2eWZBS1YERuwRsVnrTaWaznvZVg4RggnCUrnL [03:08] Ariadne if he wants to say his side of the story, he should have said it and moved on [03:11] Ariadne instead, he has spent hundreds of hours of his life registering fake websites for fake things which do not actually exist (the FSCA does not exist in germany's charities register where he claims it is incorporated) [03:12] Ariadne and has used those things to sockpuppet and harass people who have fuck all to do with his dispute [03:12] Ariadne of course, he is free to do that, but i'm free to say he's a shitty person for doing so [03:20] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [03:21] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/antivirus-creator-john-mcafee-reportedly-found-dead-in-prison-cell/ [03:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Antivirus creator John McAfee reportedly found dead in prison cell [03:21] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:21] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:23] DaemonFC schestowitz, You know the joke. [03:24] DaemonFC The government is just the criminals you worry would take over if there was no government. [03:24] DaemonFC The fact that when overthrows do succeed, something worse or at least not much better follows kind of proves it. [03:25] DaemonFC Consider how many revolutions succeeded. It's always been some sort of violent terrorist group, often but not always "religious". [03:28] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [03:28] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [03:45] Ariadne AdmFubar: mcafee has done so much coke that his cremains will be a controlled substance [03:53] leah lol [03:54] AdmFubar :P wow just coke? [03:59] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 32.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 49.06 swarm size (avg): 304.79 ● Jun 24 [04:01] activelow and snakeoil [04:04] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights [04:08] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [04:08] AdmFubar https://yro.slashdot.org/story/21/06/21/1852222/microsoft-should-face-the-same-antitrust-scrutiny-as-facebook-republican-says?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [04:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Microsoft Should Face the Same Antitrust Scrutiny as Facebook, Republican Says - Slashdot [04:09] AdmFubar https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/06/21/1653234/google-executives-see-cracks-in-their-companys-success?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [04:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Google Executives See Cracks in Their Company's Success - Slashdot [04:11] AdmFubar https://slashdot.org/story/21/06/21/1739219/amazon-labels-millions-of-unsold-products-for-destruction-new-investigation-finds?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [04:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-slashdot.org | Amazon Labels Millions of Unsold Products For Destruction, New Investigation Finds - Slashdot [04:27] *job has quit (connection closed) [04:32] *job (~job@92hej83cu4x5n.irc) has joined #techrights [04:52] DaemonFC schestowitz, PIA California is now a server in South Africa. [04:53] DaemonFC They're pulling their servers out of the US. [04:57] DaemonFC schestowitz, I'm wondering what's going on. Are they just being cheap or is there government pressuring them all of a sudden? [04:57] DaemonFC Like these court rulings that service providers are responsible for piracy that may be coming. [04:58] XFaCE has there been newer court rulings than the Cox one? [04:59] DaemonFC I'm not sure. [04:59] DaemonFC It's disturbing that this is happening though. ● Jun 24 [05:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 25.58 swarm size (avg): 304.81 [05:00] DaemonFC This could go the way of RIAA v. Napster and they need to pull out and not have nexus here if it does. [05:35] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:51] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@j7gwnqjikbjiy.irc) has joined #techrights [05:52] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [05:59] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.85 swarm size (avg): 304.97 ● Jun 24 [06:14] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@39g4c5dg3ngvu.irc) has joined #techrights [06:29] schestowitz [02:54] i've not been here for the lst few days [06:29] schestowitz nothing major, we managed to focus more on publication [06:30] schestowitz as the IRC diaspora settles [06:32] KindOne/fn Another one quit: https://phanes.silogroup.org/bye-freenode/ [06:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phanes.silogroup.org | Bye, Freenode Phanes' Canon [06:33] KindOne/fn phanes aka bagira [06:34] schestowitz "This is regrettable to me, as, in response to things completely beyond my control, I have observed that the majority of the FOSS community has relocated to either OFTC or Libera; effectively unifying and emboldening the network of abusers I sought to remove" [06:36] schestowitz [04:52] schestowitz, PIA California is now a server in South Africa. [06:36] schestowitz Seems like PIA is in crisis also [06:36] schestowitz Kape can write that off as "toxic asset" [06:37] schestowitz leah: we're preparing a big article right now [06:37] schestowitz about EPO [06:41] schestowitz DaemonFC: iirc, they left HK for similar reasons [06:41] schestowitz maybe I remember the place wrong, but you can look it up [06:42] leah what is EPO? [06:44] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:44] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:45] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [06:45] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [06:47] schestowitz leah: v [06:47] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [06:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [06:48] CrystalMath oh hi leah, nice to see you on this network! [06:52] schestowitz > See this: [06:52] schestowitz > [06:52] schestowitz > https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/23/microsoft-house-judiciary-committee-thomas-massie/ [06:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dailycaller.com | EXCLUSIVE: Whistleblower Document Appears To Show Microsoft Helped Write Big Tech Bills | The Daily Caller [06:52] schestowitz > [06:52] schestowitz This explains a lot. [06:54] Techrights-sec Yes, they're trying to turn it into a partisan thing. :( [06:54] Techrights-sec However, maybe the expose resulting from the whistleblower's actions [06:54] Techrights-sec can make action bipartisan. [06:55] Techrights-sec Either way, to be sure, M$ will start to make *lots* of noise and make [06:55] Techrights-sec as many distractions as they can. Much of it will center around [06:55] Techrights-sec Vista11 today or tomorrow. [06:58] schestowitz is it worth doing coverage/video about this? [06:58] schestowitz or about the whole linux github thing? [06:58] schestowitz the latter seems like old news [06:59] schestowitz LWN did an article behind paywall about it ● Jun 24 [07:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.68 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 44.33 swarm size (avg): 305.07 [07:04] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:12] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:16] leah schestowitz: good thing the UK (my country) left the EU then, but EPO probably also affects me anyway [07:50] schestowitz wait, you are in the UK? [07:50] schestowitz I thought you were American... [07:51] schestowitz EPO is not an EU thing [07:51] schestowitz UK is still in EPC and hence EPO [07:57] schestowitz Mozilla: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozilla-racial-justice-commitments-one-year-in/ [07:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Mozilla Racial Justice Commitments: One Year In [07:57] schestowitz all about Firefox [07:57] schestowitz 3 million dollars a year (and growing) for politician in charge of Firefox ● Jun 24 [08:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 29.96 swarm size (avg): 304.99 [08:44] *sepsinn has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:47] *sepsinn1 (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights [08:54] schestowitz lol [08:54] schestowitz #techrights at LC became the "complaints department" of Techrights :-) [08:54] schestowitz entertaining to watch [08:54] schestowitz I only started watching over a day ago [08:55] schestowitz maybe keep them "unofficial" and independent... the "complaints department" [08:56] schestowitz Reminder me of wikileaks-forums [08:57] schestowitz it was an ANTI-wikileaks forum [08:57] schestowitz but they loved to pretend to be associated with wikileaks [08:57] schestowitz to attack it more effectively [08:57] schestowitz many wrongly though it was an official wikileaks thing, but it was the opposite [08:59] techrights-bot/fn "Theres a hearing next week and the timing is a bit interesting (journalists away from their desks, most English-speaking lawyers also on holiday)" http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/meme-timely-timing/ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/24/meme-timely-timing/ [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Timely Timing? | Techrights [08:59] techrights-bot/fn #EPO insiders suspect that Campinos is trying to supplement the absentee governance of the Administrative Council with a new layer of remote management based in #Alicante http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/epo-pandora-box/ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/24/epo-pandora-box/ [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 15: A Pandoras Box But for Whom? | Techrights ● Jun 24 [09:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 23.20 swarm size (avg): 305.13 [09:01] techrights-bot/fn #Linux 5.14 To Support XMM Fast Hypercalls For #HyperV On #KVM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152624 #Kernel #TuxMachines [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.14 To Support XMM Fast Hypercalls For Hyper-V On KVM | Tux Machines [09:02] techrights-bot/fn 5 Best #GNU #Linux #filemanagers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152625 [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Best Linux file managers | Tux Machines [09:02] techrights-bot/fn #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152623 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:03] techrights-bot/fn [Meme] Timely Timing? http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/meme-timely-timing/ #epo #corruption #coverup #kangaroocourt #europe [09:06] techrights-bot/fn " #Microsoft was given advance copy of major #antitrust legislation, a document given to Republican Rep. #ThomasMassie by a #whistleblower appeared to show." https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/23/microsoft-house-judiciary-committee-thomas-massie/ [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dailycaller.com | EXCLUSIVE: Whistleblower Document Appears To Show Microsoft Helped Write Big Tech Bills | The Daily Caller [09:06] techrights-bot/fn #Microsoft Should Face the Same #Antitrust Scrutiny as #Facebook , Republican Says https://yro.slashdot.org/story/21/06/21/1852222/microsoft-should-face-the-same-antitrust-scrutiny-as-facebook-republican-says Microsoft lobbying and #bribery left them out [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Microsoft Should Face the Same Antitrust Scrutiny as Facebook, Republican Says - Slashdot [09:06] techrights-bot/fn Not many people left to run #freenode https://phanes.silogroup.org/bye-freenode [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phanes.silogroup.org | Bye, Freenode Phanes' Canon [09:08] techrights-bot/fn #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, June 23, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [09:08] techrights-bot/fn #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [09:09] techrights-bot/fn #mozilla 3 million dollars a year (and growing) for lawyer/politician in charge of #Firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozilla-racial-justice-commitments-one-year-in/ [09:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Mozilla Racial Justice Commitments: One Year In [09:09] techrights-bot/fn Virtual Injustice Part 15: A Pandoras Box But for Whom? http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/epo-pandora-box/ #epo #corruption #haar #europe #patents [09:10] techrights-bot/fn #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/irc-log-230621/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/24/irc-log-230621/ [09:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 | Techrights [09:18] *job has quit (connection closed) [09:44] *job (~job@92hej83cu4x5n.irc) has joined #techrights [09:56] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #JanSchaumann URLs: It's complicated... https://www.netmeister.org/blog/urls.html [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netmeister.org | URLs: It's complicated... [09:56] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #uniToronto I like #WireGuard partly because it doesn't have 'sessions' https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/WireGuardNoUserSessions [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/WireGuardNoUserSessions [09:57] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #DowntimeProject 7 Lessons From 10 Outages https://downtimeproject.com/podcast/7-lessons-from-10-outages/ [09:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-downtimeproject.com | 7 Lessons From 10 Outages The Downtime Project ● Jun 24 [10:19] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Talospace #OpenHardware Make Water Cooling Great Again https://www.talospace.com/2021/06/make-water-cooling-great-again.html [10:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.talospace.com | Make water cooling great again [10:20] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Vice #OpenHardware The $149 Smartphone That Could Bring The Linux Mobile Ecosystem to Life https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7e77y/the-dollar149-smartphone-that-could-bring-the-linux-mobile-ecosystem-to-life [10:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | The $149 Smartphone That Could Bring The Linux Mobile Ecosystem to Life [10:21] techrights-bot/fn Did a video response to the #lwn article about #microsoft #github attack on #linux #kernel and transcoding now, will upload and publish soon. [10:22] techrights-bot/fn >[Old] #JanSchaumann # (Technical) Infosec Core Competencies https://www.netmeister.org/blog/infosec-competencies.html [10:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netmeister.org | (Technical) Infosec Core Competencies [10:24] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #LightBlueTouchpaper #Programming #Security engineering and #machinelearning https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2021/06/23/security-engineering-and-machine-learning/ [10:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lightbluetouchpaper.org | Security engineering and machine learning | Light Blue Touchpaper [10:24] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #DanielMiessler #Programming Lens vs. List Learning https://danielmiessler.com/blog/lens-vs-list-learning/ [10:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | Lens vs. List Learning | Daniel Miessler [10:24] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BunnieHuang #Programming Adding a ChaCha Cipher to Precursors TRNG https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6126 [10:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Adding a ChaCha Cipher to Precursors TRNG bunnie's blog [10:26] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Neowin #OpenDocument OpenDocument Format 1.3 becomes approved as an #OASIS Standard format http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152601#comment-30046 [10:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ODF 1.3 is an OASIS Standard | Tux Machines [10:27] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BraveBrowser Brave Search beta now available in Brave browser, offering users the first independent privacy search/browser alternative to big tech https://brave.com/brave-search-beta/ [10:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brave Search beta now available in Brave browser, offering users the first independent privacy search/browser alternative to big tech | Brave Browser [10:28] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #RTL #Tibet 'Godfather' of Tibetan rap spits karmic rhymes https://today.rtl.lu/entertainment/news/a/1743176.html [10:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Leading light: 'Godfather' of Tibetan rap spits karmic rhymes [10:29] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #JacobinMag #Amazon Prime Day Is a Nightmare for Amazon Workers https://jacobinmag.com/2021/06/amazon-prime-day-workplace-safety-warehouse-osha-injuries-comp-amcare/ [10:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | Amazon Prime Day Is a Nightmare for Amazon Workers [10:29] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #IndiaTimes #McAfee John McAfee, software pioneer turned fugitive, dead at 75 https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/john-mcafee-software-pioneer-turned-fugitive-dead-at-75/83799182 [10:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | John McAfee: John McAfee, software pioneer turned fugitive, dead at 75, IT News, ET CIO [10:30] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #ITWire #McAfee Vale John McAfee: 1945-2021. See McAfee speak in our 2019 video interview https://itwire.com/it-people/vale-john-mcafee-1945-2021-see-mcafee-speak-in-our-2019-video-interview.html [10:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Vale John McAfee: 1945-2021. See McAfee speak in our 2019 video interview [10:33] techrights-bot/fn " #IRC network freenode was registered on netsplit.de in August 1998. Since that time our data collector regularly connects IRC network #freenode to determine its key performance indicators" https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode [10:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [10:35] techrights-bot/fn Today in #techrights we finished 15-part series, but expect more to come as next Friday brings a total catastrophe, which I suspect corrupt #epo management hopes July 4th can lower press coverage of http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/epo-pandora-box/ [10:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 15: A Pandoras Box But for Whom? | Techrights [10:37] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware Googles #security [sic] changes will break old Drive and #YouTube links https://www.theverge.com/google/2021/6/23/22548007/youtube-google-drive-security-link-sharing STOP RELYING ON GAFAM. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU! [10:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google Drive and YouTube sharing will change in July - The Verge [10:37] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheZeroHack #ProprietarySoftware How I Found A Vulnerability To [Cr]ack #iCloud Accounts and How #Apple Reacted To It https://thezerohack.com/apple-vulnerability-bug-bounty [10:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thezerohack.com | How I Found A Vulnerability To Hack iCloud Accounts and How Apple Reacted To It - The Zero Hack [10:39] techrights-bot/fn Some time next month #techrights will be covering #irc again. The time isn't right at the moment due to flux and angst. [10:39] techrights-bot/fn #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware #FBI asks Congress for $40M to help combat wave of #ransomware attacks https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/559947-fbi-asks-congress-for-40-million-to-help-combat-wave-of-ransomware [10:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FBI asks Congress for $40M to help combat wave of ransomware attacks | TheHill [10:40] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance #Hospitals are selling treasure troves of medical data what could go wrong? https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/23/22547397/medical-records-health-data-hospitals-research sometimes they just lose control of it: http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ [10:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Hospitals are selling treasure troves of medical data what could go wrong? - The Verge [10:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights [10:43] techrights-bot/fn Confidence in the #health sector/profession and medical facilities (not limited to hospitals) will decrease as more people get doxed with health records. And if we treat that as a non-issue (it can be used for #blackmail or worse), some people will stop visiting doctors [10:46] techrights-bot/fn In my job, which included working for the #nhs , I already saw #privacy violations (not ours), such as mistakenly revealing patients' names... when this was not supposed to be happening. Amid wholesale data passages I'd not berate people for thinking twice before speaking to their GP. THIS IS A CATASTROPHE. [10:47] techrights-bot/fn Tories this month: "data saves lives" (convincing us that #nhs data sales are fine). OK then, Tories, pass me all the GP notes about our Prime Minister, down to the details of how they stuck fingers up his arse and checked all sorts of embarrassing things about him... [10:51] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Vice #FBI [Cracking] and Tech Contracts Are Vanishing from the Web https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dbyxz/fbi-hacking-coinbase-contracts-removed-fpds [10:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | FBI Hacking and Tech Contracts Are Vanishing from the Web [10:57] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:57] *activelow (~activelow@cuz3t25m8pm38.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jun 24 [11:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 32.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 42.28 swarm size (avg): 305.25 [11:00] MinceR https://travisdowns.github.io/blog/2021/06/17/rip-zero-opt.html [11:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-travisdowns.github.io | Your CPU May Have Slowed Down on Wednesday | Performance Matters [11:00] schestowitz so did this blog post :-) [11:01] MinceR :> [11:01] MinceR https://nitter.fdn.fr/bcantrill/status/1407736152686166019 [11:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.fdn.fr | Bryan Cantrill (@bcantrill): "OH -- and sadly true: glibc: we will use this hardware feature to work around a software performance issue rust: we will complicate our software to work around glibc's use of this hardware feature processor vendor: we will disable this hardware feature to avoid software issues" | FDNitter [11:01] techrights-bot/fn Smrt tehc [sic] https://nitter.fdn.fr/bcantrill/status/1407736152686166019 [11:02] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:03] schestowitz is this racist and sexist? http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/email-app.jpg http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/LKML-github.jpg [11:03] schestowitz I think one cancels off the other [11:04] schestowitz because Latino man, smart! [11:04] schestowitz anyway, if some cretin out there tries to spin this as intolerant, I'll have a thing or two to say [11:04] schestowitz then again, if memes are always while males, someone will complain about that, TOO [11:06] schestowitz some people are getting confused [11:07] schestowitz people who used to be in FN #techrights [11:07] schestowitz some are mistaken into thinking we're in LC now [11:07] schestowitz only to be exposed to trolls [11:07] schestowitz like the Corporate Troll http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [11:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [11:07] schestowitz If they get confused, I'll point them in the right direction [11:08] gustaf schestowitz: you only have to let LC staff know it's "your" channel, assert ownership, and do whatever you want with it [11:08] gustaf set the topic to point here, and set it to invite only [11:09] gustaf unlike Freenode, LC will respect your "title" [11:09] schestowitz "This channel is just an anti-Techrights cesspool, hijacked by enemies of Techrights." [11:09] MinceR this would be more understandable to most if it used the usual table (2x2) format >> http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/LKML-github.jpg [11:09] schestowitz gustaf: it's not s strategy [11:09] schestowitz taking over a channel just to kick people out is waste of tiem [11:10] gustaf your call [11:10] schestowitz MinceR: like 4 reactangles? [11:10] MinceR yes [11:10] schestowitz gustaf: yeah, we made up our minds [11:10] MinceR schestowitz: i'll get an example [11:10] schestowitz I decided 2 days ago to just park there with a webclient, unregistered [11:10] schestowitz and remove doubt if someone thinks it's an official channel [11:11] MinceR schestowitz: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/345/946/673.jpg [11:11] schestowitz oh, I think I know what you mean [11:11] schestowitz like the kanye west thing [11:11] schestowitz yes, beat you to it [11:11] MinceR with thext: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/110/453/de8.jpg [11:11] MinceR s/th/t/ [11:11] schestowitz yeah, I realised what you had meant [11:12] schestowitz I'll make another meme then [11:12] schestowitz never saw the cat version [11:12] schestowitz the cat is "white" so everyone is covered [11:12] schestowitz no racism or sexism [11:12] MinceR :> [11:12] schestowitz the cat is non-binary [11:13] schestowitz it's a "it" [11:13] MinceR the cat's skin might still be dark :> [11:13] MinceR iirc allegedly polar bears have white hair but black skin [11:13] schestowitz maybe good for absorbing heat [11:13] schestowitz pandas, iirc, have dark skin [11:13] schestowitz but you need to shave them off for surgeries to see it [11:13] gustaf cat version is great [11:13] schestowitz it's quite funny, it's like they take down their "pants" [11:14] schestowitz https://git.kernel.org/ [11:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | Kernel.org git repositories [11:15] *mib_qiv4yv (~59180deb@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:15] schestowitz hi, MinceR [11:15] schestowitz mib_qiv4yv I emant [11:15] schestowitz maybe it's someone who came over from the wrong network [11:16] schestowitz the trolls have tried to give a wrong impression to people [11:16] schestowitz the techrights channel at LC seems to have become an anti-techrights gossip/whisper network. [11:20] *mib_qiv4yv has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [11:21] schestowitz MinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/microsoft-come-to-papa.png [11:22] MinceR :) [11:22] schestowitz "Linux already has easy-to-use and widely accessible (even to blind people) Git repositories. It doesn't need proprietary Microsoft bloat and "apps"." [11:23] schestowitz XRevan86: ~22k users online at https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode [11:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [11:23] schestowitz it was 3 times as many just weeks ago [11:24] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's 26696 [11:24] schestowitz including bots [11:24] XRevan86 yes [11:25] schestowitz Seems like PIA is meanwhile even issues with the US government [11:25] schestowitz like mt gox did... [11:25] schestowitz I guess they demand some logs [11:25] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's very weird how the number just refuses to go under 25K [11:27] schestowitz users=users+25,000; [11:27] schestowitz append to MOTD :-) [11:28] MinceR that would increase users by 15 and then the expression would have a value of 0, which would be discarded [11:28] MinceR s/15/25/ [11:29] XRevan86 MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator [11:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Decimal separator - Wikipedia [11:30] MinceR XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_operator [11:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Comma operator - Wikipedia [11:30] schestowitz # of users does not say much either way [11:30] XRevan86 MinceR: ah, that [11:30] schestowitz since moving to this network the logs have, on average, been a lot bigger than before [11:30] XRevan86 schestowitz: A lot more to discuss :) [11:31] schestowitz counting just number of users is the wrong thing [11:31] schestowitz also number of lines [11:31] schestowitz one single user can troll and turn a channel into crap [11:31] schestowitz more lines, lower s/n ratio [11:31] XRevan86 It's the best simple metric of the network size. [11:32] XRevan86 Unfortunately, it doesn't count current participation. [11:33] schestowitz or quality [11:33] schestowitz the LC network is a joke _as far as techrights goes there_ [11:33] schestowitz it's just a bunch of moaners, 2 people at most [11:33] schestowitz mostly monologue, off topic too [11:33] schestowitz nobody would want to follow it, I don't even read it [11:34] XRevan86 was it supposed to spring a new community on its own there? :) [11:34] schestowitz but it someone else is there by mistake, I will politely point out it is the wrong network [11:34] schestowitz the channel will rot on its own, in due course... [11:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: Or it will be nuked. [11:36] XRevan86 Did bagira also leave freenode? [11:37] schestowitz wait, which one? [11:37] schestowitz I was referring to LC [11:37] schestowitz and specifically the channel there [11:37] XRevan86 > /motd [11:37] XRevan86 > *.freenode.net message of the day [11:37] XRevan86 > End of message of the day. [11:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: The one on LC, yes. [11:37] schestowitz over time things will settle here [11:38] XRevan86 kaniini was trying to get it nuked. [11:38] schestowitz and even the bridge won't accomplish much, except relaying to people who stay on "legacy" network [11:38] schestowitz i saw fuchs entering that channel yesterday [11:38] schestowitz #techrights [11:38] schestowitz I also exchanged emails with him a month ago [11:39] schestowitz relating to the FN situation/meltdown [11:39] schestowitz either way, you can expect that in the long run (<1 year) all the key people will have converged here [11:39] schestowitz Ariadne did a phenomenal job spinning off this container [11:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: I hope they will. [11:40] schestowitz at the moment I have a chat with an associate about making the site more static [11:40] XRevan86 Otherwise things will be very annoying. [11:40] schestowitz as over the past 30 hours we constantly come under ddos attacks [11:40] Ariadne bagira lol [11:40] Ariadne that guy is something else [11:40] schestowitz scary [11:40] schestowitz tried to messages me several times in recent weeks [11:40] schestowitz whilst afaik he still had some levers and gears over FN [11:42] schestowitz even days after 'mowing' down #fsf @ freenode.net [11:42] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #JacobinMag #Finance Why Are Billionaires Always Presumed Innocent? https://jacobinmag.com/2021/06/class-bias-billionaires-tax-evasion-propublica-report/ [11:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | Why Are Billionaires Always Presumed Innocent? [11:43] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Futurism #Finance #China Orders Banks To Stop Handling Crypto, #Bitcoin Plummets https://futurism.com/the-byte/china-banks-stop-handling-crypto [11:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | China Orders Banks to Stop Handling Crypto, Bitcoin Plummets [11:43] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BBC #Finance #Bitcoin tumbles below $30,000 on #China crypto-crackdown https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57549543 [11:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bitcoin tumbles below $30,000 on China crypto-crackdown - BBC News [11:43] schestowitz cryptocoin kings might be committing many more suicides in weeks to come [11:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: Let's hope ours will be find :) [11:44] XRevan86 * fine [11:46] XRevan86 I wonder if he's into cryptocurrency still. [11:46] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Vice #Finance #HedgeFund That Shorted #GameStop Shuts Down https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3xzd8/hedge-fund-that-shorted-gamestop-shuts-down [11:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Hedge Fund That Shorted GameStop Shuts Down [11:47] schestowitz people who live in fantasyland prefers to live with fantasy money [11:47] schestowitz *prefer [11:47] schestowitz (or debt, like Trump) [11:48] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #JacobinMag You Can Have Billionaires or You Can Have #Democracy https://jacobinmag.com/2021/06/billionaire-class-superrich-oligarchy-inheritance-wealth-inequality/ [11:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | You Can Have Billionaires or You Can Have Democracy [11:49] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CSMonitor #insurrection #poverty The signs are there. 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In the US, the signs are there. - CSMonitor.com [11:52] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Raspberry Pi Zero makes a xylophone play itself https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero-makes-a-xylophone-play-itself/ [11:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Raspberry Pi Zero makes a xylophone play itself - Raspberry Pi [11:53] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:53] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:53] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Police Arrest Three For Posting 10 Minute Movie Summaries on #YouTube https://torrentfreak.com/police-arrest-three-for-posting-10-minute-movie-summaries-on-youtube-210623/ [11:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Police Arrest Three For Posting 10 Minute Movie Summaries on YouTube * TorrentFreak [11:53] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #uk #PremierLeague Wins Enhanced Illegal Streaming Blocking Order For 2021/22 https://torrentfreak.com/premier-league-wins-enhanced-illegal-streaming-blocking-order-for-2021-22-210623/ [11:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Premier League Wins Enhanced Illegal Streaming Blocking Order For 2021/22 * TorrentFreak [11:58] techrights-bot/fn Ciarn McGinley from #EPO has died. Aged 61 only. IIRC, he used to be in #SUEPO for a long time, but promotion changed his priorities... we wrote about his departure from the EPO http://techrights.org/2016/06/15/ciaran-mcginley-is-leaving-epo/ [11:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Brain Drain Goes All the Way to the Top as Head of Patent Administration Abruptly Resigns | Techrights ● Jun 24 [12:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [12:22] XRevan86 Pieskov says that vaccination remains voluntary as the people that refused can change jobs. [12:24] MinceR is there "non-fantasy" money? [12:24] XRevan86 MinceR: Gold! [12:24] MinceR i'm not aware of any currency that still uses the gold standard [12:24] XRevan86 MinceR: Gold as a currency still uses gold [12:24] MinceR but even the value of gold depends on human beliefs [12:25] schestowitz exactly [12:25] schestowitz let's pay with urnium [12:25] schestowitz uranium-backed currency [12:26] schestowitz "how much uranium would you like to trade with us?" [12:26] MinceR depleted uranium [12:30] schestowitz watch your language !! [12:32] techrights-bot/fn #MINDS is broken. Site down. Error 504. [12:36] techrights-bot/fn 7 Best #FreeSW Configuration Management Databases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152627 [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Best Free and Open Source Configuration Management Databases | Tux Machines [12:37] techrights-bot/fn #KMyMoney 5.1.2 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152628 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [12:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KMyMoney 5.1.2 released | Tux Machines [12:52] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #JeffGeerling Monitor your Internet with a #RaspberryPi https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/monitor-your-internet-raspberry-pi [12:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | Monitor your Internet with a Raspberry Pi | Jeff Geerling [12:53] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BroadbandBreakfast #GAFAM #CTA #Internet Head of #BigTech Lobby Group Says Repealing Section 230 Unconstitutional https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/06/head-of-big-tech-lobby-group-says-repealing-section-230-unconstitutional/ [12:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: broadbandbreakfast.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/06/head-of-big-tech-lobby-group-says-repealing-section-230-unconstitutional/ ) [12:55] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Vice #DRM #DigitalRestrictions #Peloton Treadmill Safety Update Requires $40 a Month Subscription https://www.vice.com/en/article/4avnzg/peloton-treadmill-safety-update-requires-dollar40-a-month-subscription [12:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: www.vice.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://www.vice.com/en/article/4avnzg/peloton-treadmill-safety-update-requires-dollar40-a-month-subscription ) [12:55] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #HollywoodReporter #DigitalRestrictions NBCUniversal, Amazon Reach Deal to Bring Peacock to Fire TV Devices https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/nbcuniversal-amazon-peacock-1234972763/ [12:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | NBCUniversal, Amazon Reach Deal to Bring Peacock to Fire TV Devices The Hollywood Reporter [12:59] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CSMonitor #Monopolies Is #Google playing fair? #EU investigates tech giant's practices. https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/2021/0622/Is-Google-playing-fair-EU-investigates-tech-giant-s-practices [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU launches new antitrust investigation into Google's ad practice - CSMonitor.com [12:59] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Bloomberg #Monopolies #Microsoft Status in House #Antitrust Push Sparks Lawmaker Clash https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-23/microsoft-may-duck-house-antitrust-push-as-republicans-cry-foul [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: www.bloomberg.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-23/microsoft-may-duck-house-antitrust-push-as-republicans-cry-foul ) ● Jun 24 [13:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 30.73 swarm size (avg): 304.71 [13:02] techrights-bot/fn Canonical Gives RISC-V a HiFive http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152556#comment-30048 [13:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SiFive launches Cortex-A75 like RISC-V core debuting on Intel dev kit | Tux Machines [13:03] techrights-bot/fn #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152629 #Linux #TuxMachines [13:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:19] techrights-bot/fn Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsofts #Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ [13:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsofts Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights [13:49] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:55] *sepsinn1 is now known as sepsinn ● Jun 24 [14:26] job Ariadne: Uh, why does Librarian in that libera #techrights channel look butthurt and is making allegations against you [14:26] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uyrk6d8rjb22k.irc) has joined #techrights [14:26] DaemonFC schestowitz, I walked down to the business where those people said the camera was pointing and got everything the other day. [14:27] DaemonFC It was not pointed at the area where I stopped for the light. [14:27] DaemonFC So it would be impossible to determine whether I came to a complete stop or not regardless of what happened. [14:49] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [14:59] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jun 24 [15:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.95 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 58.98 swarm size (avg): 304.76 [15:11] DaemonFC But their intersection was on camera. [15:11] DaemonFC I'm going to go down there today and see if they could email me the video so I can turn it over to my attorney if they did anything improper. [15:12] DaemonFC If the video evidence shows them making a rolling stop or something, then they did something wrong and that helps my case a lot. [15:17] *CrystalMath (~coderain@q8yakahc92urc.irc) has joined #techrights [15:25] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #security How Cyber Sleuths Cracked an #ATM Shimmer Gang https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/06/how-cyber-sleuths-cracked-an-atm-shimmer-gang/ [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | How Cyber Sleuths Cracked an ATM Shimmer Gang Krebs on Security [15:27] schestowitz job: feeding them will not help [15:28] schestowitz I just parked there with the webchat thing in order to redirect people who are wrongly there if they think it's a legit channel [15:32] techrights-bot/fn The "cancellation" of people https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/20/22516382/my-road-to-cancellation see http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ [15:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cancel culture: Stanford professor and CEO Joel Petersons take - Deseret News [15:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights [15:33] techrights-bot/fn #bezos https://www.newsweek.com/petitions-keep-jeff-bezos-space-blue-origins-launch-exceed-100000-signatures-1603224 [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Petitions to Keep Jeff Bezos in Space After Blue Origins Launch Exceed 100,000 Signatures [15:36] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:38] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [15:40] techrights-bot/fn #rightToRepair and #DRM ; leasing model versus owning model and deception; https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/peloton-embraces-the-you'll-own-nothing:2 [15:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Peloton embraces the you'll own nothing model [15:41] schestowitz x https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/warren-buffett-gives-away-another-4-1-billion-resigns-trustee-n1272094 [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Warren Buffett gives away another $4.1 billion, resigns as trustee at Gates Foundation [15:41] schestowitz x https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/23/business/warren-buffett-gates-foundation.html [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Warren Buffett Resigns From Gates Foundation - The New York Times [15:41] schestowitz what's comign next/ [15:41] schestowitz ? [15:41] schestowitz I am guessing: [15:41] schestowitz some kind of indictment [15:41] schestowitz but it's not a guess [15:46] schestowitz /s/now/just/ [15:46] schestowitz /s/not/just/ [15:46] psymin :( [15:46] schestowitz XFaCE: any guesses? [15:47] schestowitz psymin: why feed the trolls on that other networks? they clearly use the name to attack anything associated with it [15:48] schestowitz seeing that the irc chaos (resignations) results in the likely end of freenode (within months/years), I think it's important to accelerate the shift to this network [15:48] psymin schestowitz, that is a good question. I believe he/they are "worth saving" I guess? I am probably naive. [15:48] psymin I also strive to treat the "out group" with compassion. [15:48] schestowitz psymin: I worry about others who are in that channel 'by accident' [15:49] psymin I agree that having control of your own network is bets [15:49] schestowitz because they changes client config and now get automatically connected there, with the same list of channels to auto-join [15:49] psymin best* [15:49] XRevan86 Prediction: Libera will last for decades, freenode won't [15:49] schestowitz I don't intend to go there just to kick people out, it would be self-defeating [15:49] schestowitz or to make it invite-only [15:49] schestowitz but to talk about the issues we cover we need to focus on the actual channel [15:50] schestowitz theirs is an attempt to provoke [15:50] schestowitz I only logged in there about 48 hours ago, for the first time... and some people are logged in there who really should not be there, e.g. zoobab [15:50] psymin it might be helpful to have the title express that folks should come here for the official channel [15:52] psymin I think that some of the trolls there do have some legitimate points, but they seem to refuse to discuss them in a civil manner. It is a perpetual war between a few users, it is an unfortunate situation. I do still have hope, but I'm probably naive. [15:53] XRevan86 To me it's a bit of a race condition. [15:53] schestowitz not many people read the /topic [15:53] XRevan86 What comes first: registration or resolving the misunderstandings with some of the people there? [15:53] schestowitz they're just there because of the diaspora [15:54] job what about a ChanServ welcome message then? [15:54] schestowitz but we planned to self-host last year, or at least weighed the pros and cons [15:54] XRevan86 to me it's the former, but it kind of depends on the latter, so it's a circular dependency [15:54] schestowitz the diaspora was a well-timed (Summertime, quiet) chance to finally take the leap [15:55] *XRevan86 likes the idea with a ChanServ welcome message [15:55] XRevan86 preferrably on Libera and on freenode stating that for independence of operations it is highly advised to participate from the techrights' own network [15:55] schestowitz they read us using the bridge by the way [15:56] schestowitz they're like a peanut gallery LOL [15:56] psymin title and message seem like reasonable and non-authoritarian options [15:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: Huh? They brought a bridge of their own? [15:56] schestowitz no, they park in other networks [15:56] XRevan86 ah, freenode [15:56] job XRevan86: probably just using another nickname, nothing special [15:56] job I would do the same too tbh [15:57] psymin It is best to assume that things said on a network are heard by those who want to hear it. [15:58] techrights-bot/fn #riscv #spain https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=es&u=https://masgnulinux.es/espana-lidera-la-creacion-del-primer-chip-risc-v-europeo-de-licencia-libre/ [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [15:59] schestowitz psymin: YES [15:59] schestowitz oops [15:59] schestowitz caps oops ● Jun 24 [16:00] schestowitz we can keep that channel around just fro entertainment [16:00] schestowitz let them throw faeces at one another [16:03] techrights-bot/fn Speak your mind... cloud_upload Choose file explicit attach_money # Post [16:04] techrights-bot/fn "I've backed up, shut down, and wiped my work laptop. My last day at Wikimedia is over. I will be starting a new job in mid-July." Wow, didn't even last long there... https://toot.liw.fi/@liw/106461374067866002 [16:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lars Wirzenius: "I've backed up, shut down, and wiped my work lapt" - toot.liw.fi [16:06] techrights-bot/fn "Before covid, "remote proctoring" tools were a niche product, invasive tools that spied on students who needed to take high-stakes tests but couldn't get to campus or a satellite test-taking room. But the lockdown meant that decentralise-all-the-things.gif decentralise-all-the-things.mp4 decentralise-all-the-things.orig.webm decentralise-all-the-things.webm freenode-sky-falling-falla [16:06] techrights-bot/fn cy.gif freenode-sky-falling-fallacy.mp4 [16:07] *job has quit (connection closed) [16:10] Ariadne oh my god [16:10] Ariadne i am watching this stupid windows 11 announcement [16:10] Ariadne it keeps rebuffering [16:10] Ariadne and so far it is a marketing wankfest [16:11] Ariadne none of this surprises me [16:11] schestowitz it's expected [16:11] schestowitz it distracts from antitrust [16:11] schestowitz they will spam with this as long as they need people to focus on vapourware [16:12] Ariadne most secure windows ever [16:12] Ariadne yeah right [16:12] techrights-bot/fn Hey #Bluetooth , What's New? : Oh, We Want to Chip You https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/mesh:c [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Hey Bluetooth, What's New? : Oh, We Want to Chip You [16:12] schestowitz it's almost most xyz ever [16:12] schestowitz always [16:12] schestowitz version x+1 [16:12] schestowitz where x is current [16:12] MinceR to be fair, it isn't exactly a high bar [16:13] MinceR though i doubt they'll ever succeed [16:13] techrights-bot/fn #Spain leads the creation of the first European open source chip: this is eProcessor, a step forward to compete in hardware https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=es&u=https://www.xataka.com/componentes/espana-lidera-creacion-primer-chip-europeo-codigo-abierto-asi-eprocessor-paso-adelante-para-competir-hardware [16:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [16:13] Ariadne oh my god [16:13] Ariadne they turned the taskbar [16:13] Ariadne into the dock in macOS [16:14] Ariadne jesus fucking christ [16:14] techrights-bot/fn When the #copyright #cartel writes and shapes the #law for its own benefit, even when that violates human rights https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2021-06/cp210108en.pdf [16:14] MinceR :> [16:15] Ariadne WOW VIRTUAL DESKTOPS [16:15] MinceR it's the sort of stuff that would be +1 theme on a less broken DE [16:15] MinceR on Backdoors, it's +1 version [16:15] Ariadne EVERY OTHER OS HAS HAD THIS FOR LIKE 20 FUCKING YEARS [16:15] MinceR didn't they have virtual desktops before? [16:15] Ariadne idk [16:15] Ariadne who gives a shit [16:15] XRevan86 Ariadne: Moving everything to the centre for no apparent reason is not like macOS. [16:15] MinceR (in a really awkward fashion, but still) [16:15] XRevan86 MinceR, Ariadne: They did. [16:16] XRevan86 Either since 19xx or 20H1, I don't know. [16:16] Ariadne docking!!!! lol [16:16] schestowitz INNOVA~1 [16:16] schestowitz INNOVA~1.EXE [16:16] schestowitz don't click [16:16] Ariadne omg [16:17] schestowitz or it might not be MOST SECURE EVER^H^H^H [16:17] Ariadne "through teams my family got together regularly" [16:17] schestowitz now they googlebomb "LINUX" with Vista 11 [16:17] Ariadne yeah right [16:17] Ariadne nobody uses teams [16:17] schestowitz you search for Linux news [16:17] Ariadne for anything [16:17] schestowitz and you get this Microsoft spam [16:17] schestowitz Teams is just skype userbase migrated [16:17] schestowitz they fake 'growth' this wayt= [16:18] schestowitz the shareholders are easy to fool [16:18] Ariadne teams is being included DIRECTLY into windows [16:18] Ariadne whoohoo [16:18] Ariadne more antitrust shit [16:18] schestowitz what antitrust? [16:18] schestowitz They write the law [16:18] XRevan86 Ariadne: Be grateful for Teams to Microsoft, it's not like Jitsi Meet is a thing or something. [16:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsofts Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights [16:18] schestowitz XRevan86: BBB [16:18] Ariadne holy crap [16:18] Ariadne the teams [16:18] Ariadne ringtone [16:19] Ariadne is the skype one [16:19] Ariadne they really did just rebrand skype [16:19] CrystalMath well microsoft bought skype didn't they? [16:19] *psymin nods. [16:19] schestowitz they bought ht userbase [16:19] schestowitz and then they put that in NSA PRISM [16:19] schestowitz months later, based on Snowden leaks [16:19] Ariadne this is horrible [16:20] schestowitz you might even call it a 'join enterprise' with the USG [16:20] XRevan86 Ariadne: Technically, Skype is merely a brand. [16:20] schestowitz *joint [16:20] psymin https://news.microsoft.com/announcement/microsoft-acquires-skype/ [16:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.microsoft.com | Microsoft acquires Skype - Stories [16:20] XRevan86 There's nothing left from it but the ringtone from the olden days. [16:20] schestowitz Ariadne: yes, Skype for Business [16:20] CrystalMath Ariadne: but like what's happening? are you installing macOS? [16:20] Ariadne CrystalMath: i mean, no? [16:20] schestowitz Ariadne: 2 days ago: https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/22/skype_gpg_expire/ [16:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | There's no 'Skype' in Teams: Microsoft lets signing key for its Debian Skype repository slip gently into the night The Register [16:21] schestowitz they just pretend to be growing [16:21] Ariadne CrystalMath: i have a macbook m1, but i hate macOS [16:21] schestowitz they change names [16:21] XRevan86 And Microsoft Teams is not the same codebase as Skype for Business either. [16:21] schestowitz also, they call everything 'clown' [16:21] schestowitz there, GROWTH [16:21] Ariadne i'm patiently waiting for the next mesa release [16:21] Ariadne which will have apple gpu support [16:21] XRevan86 And as such, it no longer has SIPE either. [16:21] Ariadne at which point, macOS will be going away [16:21] CrystalMath Ariadne: anyway "most secure windows ever" is literally there in the windows 2000 installer [16:21] Ariadne agree [16:21] Ariadne win2k was actually a solid product [16:22] CrystalMath every windows is supposedly the most secure ever, according to microsoft [16:22] Ariadne windows has been off the rails since xp [16:22] CrystalMath for windows 11 they should really just say "as insecure as always" [16:23] MinceR well, i guess the install media was technically a solid :> [16:23] Ariadne windows 11 is announcing features that alpine has had for over a year in its desktop project [16:23] Ariadne lmfao [16:23] MinceR watch out alpine, microsoft is catching up [16:23] MinceR (yeah, right) [16:24] Ariadne my "go to" for content and entertainment is my bluray player [16:24] schestowitz now the ddos attacks shift again to tuxmachines [16:24] XRevan86 When I saw the new menu, I could only think about mintMenu. [16:25] MinceR my "go to" for "content" and entertainment are my 2 main laptops :> [16:26] schestowitz [16:23] well, i guess the install media was technically a solid :> [16:26] schestowitz you didn't see what some people did to it [16:26] schestowitz check in youtube [16:26] MinceR :> [16:26] schestowitz even vista [16:26] schestowitz lots of videos like that [16:26] schestowitz I think we even make an ogg copy of some in techrights [16:27] XRevan86 Ariadne: I have but one wies [16:27] Ariadne win2k was basically the last windows that was truly hackable [16:27] XRevan86 question: will Explorer work with files? [16:28] Ariadne XP began the nanny state version of windows [16:28] XRevan86 The screenshots were pretty worrisome %). [16:29] schestowitz I never had a Windows machine later than win 98 [16:29] schestowitz win98 was at least light [16:29] schestowitz in terms of ram usage [16:29] schestowitz it was not stable or anything [16:29] schestowitz with OSes that light you should at least EXPECT stability [16:29] schestowitz but no... [16:30] schestowitz that's back when the OS barely came with drivers [16:30] schestowitz and OEMs would just add the drivers you needed, based on the hardware it was put on [16:30] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #Texas Consumers Lose Control Of Their Thermostats, Get Another Crash Course In Value Of Competent Regulators https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210621/09523347033/texas-consumers-lose-control-their-thermostats-get-another-crash-course-value-competent-regulators.shtml [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Texas Consumers Lose Control Of Their Thermostats, Get Another Crash Course In Value Of Competent Regulators | Techdirt [16:36] techrights-bot/fn The most abusive tech company (akin to a cult disguised as software company since the 1970s) is distracting lawmakers and attacking Linux from the inside; thankfully, those insipid plans of theirs face major backlash from longtime kernel developers and GNU/Linux users http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-insi [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsofts Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights [16:36] techrights-bot/fn de/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [16:37] techrights-bot/fn Longstanding problem associated with #Microsoft lobbying and entryism. It is simply like a cult that poisons everything and bribes everyone, even its enemies http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking [16:37] techrights-bot/fn -linux-from-the-inside/ [16:37] ciphrCat and those OEM-included drivers were coded by some random dude in china who started with a generic driver and hacked it until it barely worked for the specific device, which would then just get tossed over a wall to trigger countless BSoDs [16:38] ciphrCat .. and because it's always closed-source, customers were basically fucked. [16:39] techrights-bot/fn #gnu " #DejaGnu 1.6.3 was released on 16 June 2021. Many bugs are fixed in this release and active development is resuming, though perhaps at a slow pace." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10014 [16:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | DejaGnu - News: DejaGnu 1.6.3 released [Savannah] [16:40] leah > current global users 40 [16:41] leah that's what i love about self-hosted networks like this one [16:42] XRevan86 That the global number is just three more than the amount of participants in this channel? :) [16:42] schestowitz we barely ever promote it [16:42] leah oh, that's not an insult. i find it charming [16:43] schestowitz this is a very new network [16:43] schestowitz freenode too 13.5... and we had close to 100 users [16:43] schestowitz 13.5 years [16:43] leah well it's specifically meant for your organisation and nothing else [16:43] leah that's why i like it. feels homely [16:43] schestowitz leah: there's a fake #techrights in LC [16:43] leah i want this for my projects at some point [16:43] schestowitz dominated by a person who hates Ariadne's guts [16:44] leah schestowitz: yeah what's that all about? [16:44] schestowitz for calling to ban him [16:44] leah ah, who? [16:44] XRevan86 (that is solvable, but it's undecided) [16:44] Ariadne that can be solved schestowitz, but i'm not willing to do the paperwork [16:44] schestowitz Ariadne: I know, but more bans just take efforts [16:44] leah who is this person, schestowitz ? [16:44] schestowitz it's our 'peanut gallery' [16:44] schestowitz for our lols [16:45] XRevan86 It's not hard to integrate and fix that channel into the bridged meta-network. [16:45] XRevan86 but once bridged it cannot be unbridged :) [16:45] schestowitz yes, and it might encourage people to join the 'wrong' thing [16:45] schestowitz there are many parallels across the boar [16:45] schestowitz *board [16:45] leah schestowitz: i just checked and it's not registered [16:45] schestowitz when you make something available and that lowers people's inclination to "do the right thing" [16:46] leah /quote cs flags #techrights [16:46] leah i did this on libera and it's not registered, but there are people in there [16:46] schestowitz this is why debian install ISOs don't come with firmware blobs [16:46] XRevan86 leah: Yea, it's just a name without anything behind it. [16:46] leah just ask a staff member to op you, and also register your project name [16:46] schestowitz no need... [16:46] leah https://libera.chat/chanreg#project-registration [16:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libera.chat | Channel registration | Libera Chat [16:46] XRevan86 leah: It all boils down to that schestowitz doesn't want it. [16:46] leah well i'd recommend it anyway. i've already submitted my projects [16:47] leah fair enough i won't press it further [16:47] XRevan86 I don't know why he brings it up though. [16:47] Ariadne part of the issue is that being present on freenode/LC makes driveby trolling a lot easier [16:47] Ariadne having to connect to another server does increase the friction [16:47] leah well i'm sorry that you have to put up with such hassle [16:47] schestowitz the way things are, that channel will die on its own. It only exists because some irc clients auto-joined after reconfiguration of irc clients [16:48] XRevan86 and then freenode will also die, leaving just the self-hosted solution [16:48] schestowitz leah: Ariadne also [16:48] schestowitz seems they hate her even more [16:48] leah well if i were you i'd get staff to give you it, then you can close it down so that nobody may impersonate you [16:48] schestowitz they also badmouth DaemonFC there [16:48] schestowitz I don't want to take over such a chanell [16:48] Ariadne they just hate me because i refused to play their stupid game [16:48] schestowitz it's like taking over 100 shared hosting sites, which Ariadne did before [16:49] schestowitz and then you get lots of work and for little or no benefit [16:49] Ariadne these days i only buy hosting companies with IPv4 space [16:49] Ariadne :p [16:49] leah a smart move for sure [16:49] MinceR :> [16:49] Ariadne because then you can sell the customers and retain the unused ipv4 space [16:49] Ariadne :P [16:49] leah IPv4 is a profitable commodity these days, due to the finite allocation space [16:50] schestowitz people need to host sites instead of 'blogging' in FB, LinkedIn (Microsoft), BlogSpot (Google) etc. [16:50] schestowitz the web has gotten far too centralised [16:50] schestowitz worse than geocities by far [16:50] schestowitz due to total # of users [16:50] leah my isp is awesome. gives me static /28 ipv4 for free. /48 ipv6 too. i host everything from home [16:50] schestowitz big IRC networks are the same for chatting/comms [16:50] Ariadne its been pretty funny watching andrew piss off actual IRC gods [16:50] Ariadne with his mismanagement of freenode [16:50] leah gods? [16:50] Ariadne yes, people like Ahnberg, tau, etc [16:50] schestowitz Ariadne: even bagira quit [16:51] Ariadne who cares [16:51] leah well i would say you're probably a godess of irc, since you wrote lots of ircd's right? [16:51] Ariadne bagira is some person with a deranged agenda [16:51] schestowitz https://git.freenode.net/freenode-web/web-7-0/-/commit/53c9cc0f3e519de07a2a1dd28b0c8d8e0d0c0398 [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.freenode.net | pretty sure i broke everything. added staff/removed some (53c9cc0f) Commits freenode-web / web-7-0 GitLab [16:51] leah i didn't know irc was so treacherous and chaotic btw [16:51] Ariadne its really not [16:51] Ariadne 99% of the time irc is chill [16:51] schestowitz irc works [16:51] leah i've been on freenode for years, and now libera, and i was shielded from all this [16:51] schestowitz the protocol [16:52] MinceR irc isn't -- humans are [16:52] schestowitz we got rid of much overhead [16:52] schestowitz like having to ask for cloaks [16:52] MinceR humans are the real monsters [16:52] Ariadne MinceR used to be an op on my previous IRC [16:52] leah techrights made the right call [16:52] schestowitz MinceR taught me how to manage accounts a bit [16:52] XRevan86 leah: Andrew is a very talented person. [16:52] leah to have its independent infrastructure [16:52] Ariadne talented at pissing people off [16:52] MinceR lol [16:52] Ariadne and breaking shit [16:52] leah i've put my plans for that on hold for now. too much other work [16:52] schestowitz "chit chit" [16:52] leah XRevan86: i thought you were trolling for a second there :P [16:52] schestowitz andrew, it's called cheatsheet [16:53] leah ah it was ariadne that covered for you [16:53] XRevan86 leah: What Ariadne said is what I meant :) [16:53] leah well, thank you for this [16:53] schestowitz (today) [16:53] schestowitz [04:52] schestowitz, PIA California is now a server in South Africa. [16:53] schestowitz [04:53] They're pulling their servers out of the US. [16:53] schestowitz [04:57] schestowitz, I'm wondering what's going on. Are they just being cheap or is there government pressuring them all of a sudden? [16:53] leah this made my day [16:54] schestowitz maybe he'll need to sell the home and move elsewhere [16:54] Ariadne but, for example, Ahnberg has been hacking on ircd, running DALnet and advising/sponsoring servers for freenode (well now libera.chat) for over 30 years [16:54] psymin Yep, it would be great if there was a simple free software solution, "freedom in a box" method for folks to self-host their own communities [16:54] schestowitz like mcafee [16:54] XRevan86 leah: June is a month where a lot of clarity was given about what kind of person Andrew is. [16:54] psymin similar to what disroot has done [16:54] MinceR i remember reading that hosting VPN servers in the USA wasn't a great idea anyway [16:54] MinceR five eyes and all [16:54] Ariadne tau, same deal, but efnet and undernet [16:54] schestowitz MinceR: or HK [16:54] Ariadne andrew pissed off tau and now all of freenode's servers [16:54] Ariadne are being paid for [16:54] schestowitz Kim dotcom found out [16:54] schestowitz then PIA [16:54] Ariadne by andrew out of pocket [16:54] Ariadne no more sponsors [16:55] XRevan86 leah: https://www.linux.org.ru/forum/talks/16344951?cid=16377247 in case ye didn't see [16:55] Ariadne lol [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.org.ru | Talks [16:55] leah i see nothing. i'm receive information directly into my brain [16:55] XRevan86 Some text from the June 18th interview [16:55] psymin what about kim? [16:55] leah oh that's from the l0de interview [16:55] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CommonDreams #SCOTUS Solidifies Students' Free Speech Protections, Upholding Right to Say 'F**k Cheer' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/23/scotus-solidifies-students-free-speech-protections-upholding-right-say-fk-cheer [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | SCOTUS Solidifies Students' Free Speech Protections, Upholding Right to Say 'F**k Cheer' | Common Dreams News [16:55] XRevan86 yea [16:55] leah i saw the whole interview [16:56] XRevan86 leah: Never mind then :). Well, unless ye may want to quote some bits. [16:56] Ariadne andrew is trying to sue tau [16:56] Ariadne because tau left and all the sponsors left with him [16:56] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #EFF Standing With Security Researchers Against Misuse of the #DMCA https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/dmca-security-researcher-statement [16:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Standing With Security Researchers Against Misuse of the DMCA | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:56] Ariadne pretty funny [16:56] MinceR lol [16:56] leah freenode is doomed then [16:57] leah no way is andrew going to continue paying for hosting costs [16:57] XRevan86 It lacks the more subtle themes unfortunately, but that's impossible to capture with quotes. [16:57] schestowitz psymin: he was raided or something in hk before nz [16:57] leah freenode isn't profitable [16:57] Ariadne a handful of dedicated servers is not that expensive [16:57] leah it's an irc network [16:57] schestowitz maybe not raided, but was quickly to relocate [16:57] Ariadne less than $1k p/m [16:57] Ariadne leah: its not about profit [16:57] XRevan86 leah: freenode may become small enough to be manageable [16:57] Ariadne its about mental attachment [16:57] schestowitz and when snowden ran away to hk he found out it was no haven, either [16:57] Ariadne andrew wants to become some sort of 'irc god' [16:57] Ariadne basically [16:57] schestowitz that was well before chinese aggression [16:57] XRevan86 and then Andrew will just continue waiting for his millions of users to come [16:57] leah gods are useless [16:58] schestowitz [16:55] i saw the whole interview [16:58] Ariadne agree [16:58] schestowitz I ahve full transcript [16:58] leah i say [16:58] leah wanna know what i say instead? [16:58] XRevan86 schestowitz: Who went through the trouble? [16:58] leah just write the fucking code [16:58] *psymin listens. [16:58] leah gods are useless [16:58] XRevan86 I only transcribed some parts of it and it was already painful. [16:58] leah the best things ever are usually made by people who kept their head down [16:59] XRevan86 leah: Saw the IRC.com thing too, right? [16:59] schestowitz XRevan86: no idea [16:59] leah schestowitz: oh btw a few weeks ago i told you i'm neutral about freenode/libera [16:59] leah schestowitz: in case you ever write articles about me, i'm now very much against freenode, but i'm lukewarm about libera. i'm choosing to trust libera for now [16:59] XRevan86 Back then I also haven't picked a side yet. [16:59] schestowitz I said from the start it was a petty fight [16:59] schestowitz but I was wrong to think freenode can survive all this [16:59] leah i'm writing an article for libreboot.org. just saying this in case you want to quote me on anything in the future [16:59] *XRevan86 doesn't think it was a petty fight. [16:59] leah not published yet ● Jun 24 [17:00] leah XRevan86: yeah i saw [17:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.46 swarm size (avg): 304.68 [17:00] Ariadne schestowitz: a necessary fight [17:00] leah XRevan86: it's non-free. that's the first thing i noticed [17:00] Ariadne and, libera has improved governance [17:00] leah i actually did try it, and the app doesn't even fucking work [17:00] XRevan86 leah: It's not the only aspect of it, but the big one, yea. [17:00] Ariadne i know this because i *personally* advised them on points to improve, and they took that into consideration when formulating their bylaws [17:00] leah i have a burner that i use to test stuff on [17:00] psymin what is non-free? [17:00] schestowitz cost, leah? [17:01] leah irc client on irc.com [17:01] leah is non-free [17:01] schestowitz I had a burned 10+ years ago [17:01] psymin ah [17:01] leah schestowitz: cost? [17:01] XRevan86 I don't understand how Andrew thought this is a good idea to introduce IRC.com like this to the freenode crowd. [17:01] leah cost of what [17:01] schestowitz whena girl I dated INSISTED that I MUST have a 'phone; [17:01] schestowitz cost me a tenner [17:01] leah i see [17:01] leah "tenner" [17:01] XRevan86 He said it himself: "freenode is FOSS" [17:01] XRevan86 and what does he do? this. [17:01] Ariadne cocaine is a hell of a drug [17:01] Ariadne what can i say [17:01] leah it's actualy really hard to get off of cocaine [17:01] Ariadne yeah it really is [17:01] XRevan86 And he even talked about FOSS in that insane announcement. [17:01] schestowitz leah: yes, typo. tenner [17:01] leah you get hallucinations and you can actually die [17:02] schestowitz plus credit (top-up) [17:02] schestowitz the cheapest that existed [17:02] schestowitz side story [17:02] schestowitz about the harms of 'phones' [17:03] schestowitz that burner phone [17:03] leah i'm just annoyed because libera has 42k users [17:03] schestowitz years later my wife looked through it [17:03] leah lots of people moved to oftc [17:03] leah or discord etc [17:03] schestowitz we're turning 10 this year [17:03] schestowitz and then read old SMS that I sent and received [17:03] leah this whole thing has done serious harm to my communities [17:03] XRevan86 leah: That it's less than before Andrew took over? [17:03] schestowitz to a girl I had dated before I met her; platonic, but still... [17:03] XRevan86 leah: Actually, this barely made a dent on OFTC's user count. [17:04] activelow it made a dent in global IRC protocol user count [17:04] XRevan86 maybe two thousand people [17:04] activelow most relevant statement in the interview: "IRC is dying" [17:04] activelow happened before, with newsgroups/nntp [17:04] XRevan86 I mean that OFTC didn't get a significant slice of that freenode pie [17:05] XRevan86 so Libera being not as big just means that people left IRC? [17:05] schestowitz some did [17:05] schestowitz you know because [17:05] schestowitz look at some blog posts [17:05] schestowitz some mention matrix and jabber [17:05] schestowitz and this convinced them to take the leap [17:05] XRevan86 I doubt XMPP got much from this either. [17:05] XRevan86 Matrix very likely did. [17:06] Ariadne i think discord is what won the users [17:06] Ariadne who did not migrate to libera [17:06] Ariadne i mean, i hate to be a downer, but it makes the most sense [17:06] XRevan86 I get it, it's just frustrating to even think about [17:06] Ariadne i've been warning about irc's war of attrition against slack, and increasingly, discord (especially in the context of freenode) since 2015 [17:06] Ariadne christel did not care, at all, about it [17:07] XRevan86 I despise Discord [17:07] Ariadne same, but many friends have started to use it exclusively [17:07] Ariadne and, i'm pragmatic in all things [17:07] leah what can irc really do though? [17:07] Ariadne so i am willing to trade discord's non-free nature with the ability to continue to stay in touch with friends and communities [17:07] Ariadne leah: freenode could have done a lot, actually. [17:08] leah the protocol fundamentally lacks many of the features people now enjoy on those newer protocols [17:08] Ariadne not true ! [17:08] Ariadne charybdis 4 added a LOT [17:08] leah personally i'm happy with text-only though, but please tell me more. i'm curious [17:08] Ariadne stuff like ergo adds even more [17:08] leah i note that this network runs ergo. i notice it when i log in. it says ergo [17:08] leah what kind of features? [17:08] Ariadne with a fully modern client, you can do basically everything discord can do and more on this network [17:09] Ariadne typo editing, for example [17:09] Ariadne ircv3 allows you to send diffs of messages [17:09] schestowitz I'm into k.i.s.s. [17:09] schestowitz irc just works [17:09] Ariadne you can reply to specific messages [17:10] schestowitz and you can implement workarounds [17:10] leah that sounds very nice Ariadne [17:10] schestowitz like scrollback at http://techrights.org/irc [17:10] Ariadne no need to implement workarounds [17:10] Ariadne just use [17:10] leah what modern clients are you thinking of, when you say this? [17:10] Ariadne a client made in the past 10 years [17:10] activelow irc won't compete with modern protocols/services anyway, this isn't the strength of irc [17:10] Ariadne weechat [17:10] Ariadne quassel [17:10] leah it seems to me that we could do all of this then [17:10] leah as a community [17:10] schestowitz konversation [17:10] Ariadne not konversation, sorry [17:10] leah offer a serious competitor to discord and so on [17:10] Ariadne konversation is dead lol [17:10] leah this konversation is over [17:11] schestowitz I use quassel on another machine [17:11] schestowitz konversation on this one for 12 years [17:11] schestowitz quassel is not better [17:11] leah but since it's irc i'm assuming there's some sort of legacy thing built in. so people will less features in their client might just see weird backlogs or something [17:11] Ariadne theres still a lot of missing stuff, but the basic pieces are there to kill discord [17:11] schestowitz discord is not the competition, I think [17:11] Ariadne it really is [17:11] leah well libera seems to be in the best position to do this [17:12] leah do you think they'd be up for that? [17:12] Ariadne yes, they want to [17:12] XRevan86 Ariadne: What about message archiving? [17:12] leah but will they? [17:12] Ariadne they will [17:12] leah excellent [17:12] XRevan86 Is that something IRC is ready to tackle? [17:12] Ariadne edk is the maintainer charybdis really needed [17:12] leah i was worried about that [17:12] leah because i love irc [17:12] Ariadne XRevan86: i'm working on an approach for it [17:12] leah i've only used it since early 2010s but idk, it has a charm to it [17:13] XRevan86 One of the things that ticked Andrew off was revitalisation of charybdis, for the record. [17:13] activelow charybdis was the IRCv3 server implementation? [17:13] Ariadne yes, because that lead to the revitalization of atheme.org [17:13] MinceR XRevan86: why? [17:13] Ariadne who can actually fight him [17:13] XRevan86 activelow: It is the basis for ircd-seven and for Solanum [17:13] psymin this? https://github.com/charybdis-ircd/charybdis [17:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - charybdis-ircd/charybdis: Scalable IRCv3.2 server for large, community-oriented networks [17:14] Ariadne XRevan86: solanum is the spiritual successor to charybdis [17:14] activelow btw. some years ago i reviewed various options of available ircd and chose to retain some OLD ircd-hybrid in my gentoo overlay here [17:14] kingoffrance irc without typos? that's no irc atall [17:14] XRevan86 Ariadne: I thought it shares the code too. [17:14] Ariadne it does [17:14] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #EFF #swpats #ptab #uspto Supreme Court Upholds Process to Challenge Bad #Patents https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/supreme-court-upholds-process-challenge-bad-patents [17:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Supreme Court Upholds Process to Challenge Bad Patents | Electronic Frontier Foundation [17:14] Ariadne i just want to clarify that point [17:14] XRevan86 Ariadne: Right, yes. [17:14] leah if there are dvorak users in your channel, you want typo correction [17:15] XRevan86 MinceR: Conspiracy, I didn't fully grasp his point. [17:15] activelow ircd-hybrid v7.3, with any later something wasn't right, don't remember what it was [17:16] XRevan86 maybe he thought that it goes against his IRC.com dream that involves inspircd [17:16] MinceR weird [17:16] XRevan86 or didn't understand that this doesn't entail a wipe [17:16] schestowitz leah: you use Dvorak too? I know nobody in person who uses it [17:16] schestowitz (I once knew Matt Mullenweg was using it) [17:17] schestowitz way back when I was involved in wordpress [17:17] leah i've used it since 2011, exclusively [17:17] XRevan86 MinceR: Weird indeed. From the earlier mysteries I've figured out the 2FA thing, but not the Solanum thing. [17:17] XRevan86 maybe it's not supposed to make sense [17:17] schestowitz sadly, many devices and systems do not support Dvorak, so you end up having to memorise two layouts, very different ones [17:17] leah i actually forced myself to use it, while working in an office job. took a dvorak keyboard in with me and used that instead of the one they gave me. i learned quickly [17:18] XRevan86 MinceR: And then Solanum is also "an OFTC takeover" [17:18] schestowitz gets weird if you're in a public terminal or mate's PC [17:18] leah OFTC is really bad for free software projects [17:18] schestowitz and you start typing slow as (I can't say "grandma" anymore) [17:18] XRevan86 as prawnsalad paraphrased Andrew in Andrew's screenshots [17:19] leah it requires you to run non-free javascript (recaptcha on a web page) when signing up [17:19] leah plus it doesn't seem to support SASL, last time i tried [17:19] leah i can't in good conscience recommend it in any of my projects [17:19] XRevan86 leah: No SASL is a result of their old software. [17:19] XRevan86 leah: That's why they also want Atheme and Solanum [17:20] XRevan86 so both freenode (Libera) and OFTC collaborated on getting this thing back up and running [17:20] leah Ariadne: 1k per month to run freenode? [17:20] leah that's cheap. you predicted this figure earlier [17:21] Ariadne yes [17:21] schestowitz freedombox would be wise to include irc (if it does not already) [17:21] Ariadne freedombone does [17:21] leah Ariadne: with how many users using it simultaneously? [17:21] Ariadne 1000000s [17:21] leah ok [17:21] leah so what was all that rot everyone said about money [17:21] leah what was andrew donating money to? [17:21] XRevan86 Ariadne: So Andrew's ready? :D [17:22] XRevan86 any minute now [17:22] Ariadne ready? [17:22] XRevan86 Ariadne: For the 1000000s to come [17:22] Ariadne leah: stuff like fosshost [17:22] leah yeah but what were they funding? [17:22] Ariadne leah: freenode had no expenses [17:22] leah if freenode is that cheap to run i mean [17:22] Ariadne maybe he counted being christel's sugar daddy [17:22] MinceR afaict freenode was dependent on money in part because nonprofits in the UK are required to get a given amount of donations per year, and because of freenode live (or whatever) [17:22] Ariadne as 'donation' to freenode [17:22] Ariadne who knows, who cares [17:22] XRevan86 https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/pull/402 [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remove Freenode by B0pol Pull Request #402 zedeus/nitter GitHub [17:22] leah well that's funny [17:23] schestowitz yes, github [17:23] schestowitz actually, freenode did remove github [17:23] XRevan86 schestowitz: Not the point! [17:23] schestowitz and installed gitlab on git.freenode.org [17:23] schestowitz after I asked them to [17:23] schestowitz XRevan86: I know [17:23] schestowitz I was not even clicking that [17:23] schestowitz we need a nitter for github [17:24] MinceR "That would be funny / if it weren't so sad" [17:24] schestowitz B0pol makes me think of a certain Dow Chemical incident [17:24] XRevan86 The content: a merge request that moved the mention of an IRC channel for Nitter leaving just Matrix.org [17:24] XRevan86 * removed [17:25] MinceR it says their bridge was cut [17:25] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #Iowa Iowa's Top Court Says Cops Can't Search People's Garbage Without A Warrant https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210619/12311147021/iowas-top-court-says-cops-cant-search-peoples-garbage-without-warrant.shtml [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Iowa's Top Court Says Cops Can't Search People's Garbage Without A Warrant | Techdirt [17:25] XRevan86 MinceR: And they couldn't bother getting it back up. [17:26] schestowitz she said [17:26] schestowitz (not p-c, I know) [17:26] schestowitz but freenode is all male now [17:26] schestowitz so I doubt it would offend them [17:27] MinceR :> [17:27] schestowitz or maybe you mean matrix [17:27] schestowitz though I don't know how [m] bridges work and who sets them up [17:27] schestowitz whose side [17:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: I mean restoring the bridge from IRC (Libera this time) and Matrix. [17:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: The [m] bridge is an integration, it's a bit different. [17:27] XRevan86 Like https://matrix.to/#/#techrights:libera.chat for that other channel. [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matrix.to | You're invited to talk on Matrix [17:28] schestowitz how many matrix users worldwide? [17:28] schestowitz inc. internal uses? [17:28] XRevan86 Libera actually self-hosted Matrix's appservice-irc, and that allows them to have a sleek domain in Matrix. [17:28] schestowitz millions I assume? [17:30] XRevan86 techrights could also self-host it but it's a complication that Ariadne doesn't want to. [17:31] XRevan86 schestowitz: Probably. [17:31] schestowitz I think we need very decentralised protocols [17:31] schestowitz nntp was good [17:31] Ariadne i think matrix is not the way to go :D [17:31] schestowitz but still had some upstream reliance [17:31] Ariadne matrix has decentralized *authority* [17:31] Ariadne you really do not want that [17:32] schestowitz at some point Microsoft trolls were attacking the nntp operator in an effort to disconnect me [17:32] XRevan86 XMPP is a much more solid protocol, but it has flaws that hinder it's adoption. [17:32] schestowitz someone from BT then helped me bypass that single point of failure [17:32] Ariadne XMPP MUC at least retains centralized authority [17:32] psymin I think some decentralized authority could be of value if done 'right' [17:32] Ariadne if you're banned on a MUC, you're banned on a MUC [17:32] XRevan86 same goes for XMPP MIX [17:33] Ariadne psymin: i've yet to see any decentralized authority system for irc-style chats that couldn't be abused via net riding [17:34] Ariadne in matrix, you're only banned if all homeservers in the DAG agree [17:35] Ariadne note that i am not an enthusiast re: banning people, [17:35] Ariadne but [17:35] Ariadne if i ban somebody, i want to have confidence that they are actually banned [17:35] Ariadne because the reason they are banned might be a serious issue [17:35] schestowitz and then they orchestrate their own peanut gallery [17:36] schestowitz with the name "Librarian" [17:36] schestowitz there's that saying about taking your opponents 'underground' [17:36] schestowitz (in the context of GOVERNMENT:) and they still operate, outside your control, reach, oversight [17:36] schestowitz so the governments try to correct the behaviour [17:37] schestowitz rather than toss people out in the street [17:37] schestowitz old_man is getting fired up again [17:37] *schestowitz hands over some bag of peanuts [17:37] Ariadne yes, so my point is [17:37] Ariadne in matrix, instead of having a #techrights on another network [17:38] Ariadne it is possible to split-brain the DAG [17:38] schestowitz for the record, old_man, your issue is with Ariadne more than with me [17:38] DaemonFC Some black guy went to trial, represented himself poorly, carried himself poorly, told the judge "this is a bunch of bullshit", admitted to speeding, and the prosecutor still came down from misdemeanor to petty speeding, and the guy continued to complain until the judge muted him "for your own protection from a contempt citation", and then the judge found him guilty of simple speeding and gave him supervision instead of a conviction. [17:38] schestowitz and you operate a shadow channel by piggybacking the name [17:38] DaemonFC I feel sorry for anyone who comes after this. The judge was pissed but maintained his impartiality I'd say. [17:39] DaemonFC Of course, the guy complained he'd been profiled, repeatedly, and called the LIDAR system a "speed thermometer" repeatedly. [17:39] Ariadne and if you split-brain the DAG [17:39] Ariadne then you can have [17:39] Ariadne real #techrights and fake #techrights [17:39] Ariadne all in the same namespace [17:39] schestowitz one is a parody channel [17:39] Ariadne and while real #techrights will ignore messages from fake #techrights [17:39] Ariadne fake #techrights will accept messages from real #techrights [17:40] schestowitz yes [17:40] Ariadne and so this is a problem [17:40] schestowitz that's the thinking [17:40] Ariadne and so thats why i dont want to open the matrix can of worms [17:40] Ariadne because if we bridge to matrix [17:40] schestowitz matrix is something that does not interest me, except the features [17:40] Ariadne basically, we are at the mercy of whatever matrix room version we're on this week [17:41] Ariadne i rather bring those features to irc clients [17:41] schestowitz anyway, there's this false assumption that more users = better [17:41] Ariadne ircv3 protocol already supports them :P [17:41] XRevan86 Ariadne: Does this happen with appservice-irc? [17:41] schestowitz that's why many people waste time in Twitter [17:41] schestowitz arguing with people they'd regularly not even bother with [17:41] Ariadne XRevan86: yes, the problem is a fundamental design flaw in matrix [17:41] Ariadne each new room version happens basically [17:41] Ariadne because somebody found a new way to exploit the DAG [17:41] Ariadne maybe someday they will get it right [17:42] Ariadne but until that happens, i can't consider matrix safe [17:42] Ariadne especially considering it is filled with threat actors [17:42] Ariadne who are using it because it can't be censored [17:42] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CommonDreams 'Disturbing': US Military Document Puts Socialists in Same Category as Neo-Nazis https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/23/disturbing-us-military-document-puts-socialists-same-category-neo-nazis [17:42] kingoffrance its calleed matrix, it has glitches, what do you expect :) [17:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Disturbing': US Military Document Puts Socialists in Same Category as Neo-Nazis | Common Dreams News [17:43] Ariadne its all fun and games until your chats are leaking to a threat actor in real time ;) [17:43] psymin threat actor? [17:43] schestowitz this channel is publicly logged [17:43] schestowitz http://techrights.org/irc [17:44] schestowitz also every night, also accessible form freenode [17:44] schestowitz we don't hide anything [17:44] activelow now i remember, the server-to-server linking with ircd-hybrid v8 raised suspicion, v7 was some custom hackery and v8 implemented it with openssl [17:44] schestowitz so there's no real threat; if anything, not we have better privacy for DMs [17:44] schestowitz LC provides us a service [17:44] schestowitz unlogged noise for the channel [17:45] *XRevan86 still thinks that freenode should be removed from that page. [17:45] DaemonFC schestowitz, Just don't go profilin' anyone with one of them there "speed thermometers". [17:45] Ariadne schestowitz: sure, for *this* channel, information leakage is maybe not a problem, but for people's semi-private chats, it is a problem [17:45] schestowitz XRevan86: it's not the page you think [17:45] Ariadne the practical issue for *this* channel is ban evasion [17:45] schestowitz XRevan86: i think you did not click [17:45] XRevan86 ah, right [17:46] Ariadne anyway, matrix DAG is only secure as long as there are zero evil nodes [17:46] XRevan86 yea, I mean irc-channel [17:46] Ariadne as soon as there is an evil node [17:46] Ariadne its all owned [17:46] psymin self hosting with free software is a good method of cancel-resistance and independence [17:46] schestowitz yes, speaking in the 'general' -> [17:45] schestowitz: sure, for *this* channel, information leakage is maybe not a problem, but for people's semi-private chats, it is a problem [17:46] schestowitz techrights.org/2019/10/02/techrights-transparency/ [17:46] Ariadne psymin: threat actor being, say, somebody stalking you, or trying to cancel you, or whatever [17:47] Ariadne there's a whole spectrum of actors like that out there, take your pick [17:47] schestowitz I think I know what LC is [17:47] schestowitz it's a DM for me, so old_man can talk back to me [17:47] schestowitz good for his health [17:48] schestowitz it's "viagra monologue" [17:48] schestowitz (like vagina monopolgue) [17:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: DMs with unregistered users work now? Or did ye register there? [17:49] schestowitz no, it's a webchat thing of LC [17:49] schestowitz 90%+ of the stuff there is just one protester [17:50] schestowitz the funny thing is, we actually unmuted him in freenode earlier this yeat [17:50] schestowitz maybe he did not even notice [17:50] schestowitz but after all this, it was in vain [17:51] schestowitz so basically we only have one person muted: http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ ONLY AFTER 6 months of tolerating his abuse [17:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [17:51] schestowitz I think the final straw was him using IRC to change the subject and then defame me in "shitter dot com" [17:51] schestowitz to get "likes" from Microsofters [17:51] schestowitz he left no doubt about his motivations [17:52] schestowitz old_man still talks back to me, insisting that I'm the issue. and for the record, he was relatively new in irc [17:52] schestowitz occasional heckles, and he really disliked Matthew Garrett [17:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: If he really wants to talk about it, why isn't he here? [17:53] schestowitz he keeps insisting qt is free software [17:53] schestowitz which is patently false, but he keeps bringing that up [17:54] schestowitz it's dual, which is like "open core" but a different slant on that approach of "dual" [17:54] schestowitz XRevan86: he is in freenode [17:54] schestowitz he has voice there [17:54] schestowitz so he can speak here too, over the bridge [17:54] schestowitz (he knows that) [17:54] schestowitz but doesn't want to get muted in FN [17:55] schestowitz maybe I'll upload chat logs from there for better context, but I want to press on with Daily Links [17:55] schestowitz anyway, it would have been worse if we had to rely on FN/LC staff [17:55] schestowitz being a guest on the network, even at DNS level [17:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: Oh, hm, I have a new argument for bridging with LC then :D [17:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: If that channel is registered, he'll be afraid to get muted there too. [17:56] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #Surveillance #Privacy #Kansas Court Rejects Government's 'Reverse Warrant,' Sets Ground Rules For Future Requests https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210620/12123947026/kansas-court-rejects-governments-reverse-warrant-sets-ground-rules-future-requests.shtml [17:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kansas Court Rejects Government's 'Reverse Warrant,' Sets Ground Rules For Future Requests | Techdirt [17:56] Ariadne fwiw i think qt is basically free software, though i think The Qt Company is making a rotten deal [17:57] schestowitz if you use old versions [17:57] schestowitz for now they walk a fine line to not piss kde and some "Open Source" projects [17:57] schestowitz same thing IBM does [17:57] schestowitz with RHEL being available for "Open Source" things [17:57] schestowitz up to some limits [17:58] schestowitz which they can change at any time [17:58] schestowitz that's hardly software freedom [17:58] Ariadne well, if Qt does piss off KDE, then KDE gets to release a fork under BSD license [17:58] Ariadne so, seems like a win-win [17:58] schestowitz they wait till you have thousands of servers and then they bill you (millions) [17:58] schestowitz Ariadne: yes, that keeps them honest [17:58] schestowitz for now [17:58] schestowitz there are already qt forks [17:58] schestowitz i think it's you who named one [17:59] schestowitz I've not progammed with qt since 2003-2005 [17:59] schestowitz I now prefer guis in terminal, much easier to maintain in the long run ● Jun 24 [18:00] Old_Man/fn Since schestowitz only passes on the part that fits his "socially constructed" "narrative," I must speak here for a second to say what schestowitz won't tell you: I do give credit where it's due. Schestowitz, THANK YOU for correcting something that you've gotten wrong so many times in the past... a falsehood you've spread, just to construct a narrative. I give you credit for that. [18:00] Old_Man/fn Now, back to your regularly-scheduled dismissal of everyone who values truthfulness as a "troll" or "peanut gallery." [18:01] schestowitz not you specifically [18:01] schestowitz I saw others in that network [18:01] schestowitz it developed into a hecklers' club [18:02] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #DRM You Don't Own What You've Bought: Peloton Treadmill Edition https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210622/07451447036/you-dont-own-what-youve-bought-peloton-treadmill-edition.shtml [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You Don't Own What You've Bought: Peloton Treadmill Edition | Techdirt [18:08] schestowitz old_man, you can speak via freenode [18:08] schestowitz yes, gitlab is also problematic [18:09] XRevan86 Old_Man: So what is going on? [18:10] schestowitz LOL, LC became the IRC chat's "comments section" [18:10] schestowitz we found use for that network, at least [18:17] schestowitz OK, finally finished all my political RSS feeds [18:17] schestowitz politics, environment, civil rights etc. now we can crack on with more GNU/Linux stuff...but first coffee :-) [18:26] techrights-bot/fn "Space Chef from developer Blue Goo Games is planned to be supported on Linux thanks to the Unity game engine, and it looks like it could be quite fun." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/hunt-down-alien-life-and-cook-it-in-space-chef-coming-to-linux-and-needs-beta-testing [18:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hunt down alien life and cook it in Space Chef, coming to Linux and needs Beta testing | GamingOnLinux [18:27] techrights-bot/fn A company that lays off about 5,000 people in a year is not in a healtht state and isn't worth a couple of trillions. It's defrauding shareholders and creating a bubble, like Madoff did. http://techrights.org/2020/07/23/microsoft-defrauding-again/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff#Mechanics_of_the_fraud [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Defrauding Its Shareholders While Laying Off About 5,000 Workers | Techrights [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bernie Madoff - Wikipedia [18:28] techrights-bot/fn Tilt Five, an upcoming tabletop holographic gaming system developed with #GNU #Linux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/tilt-five-an-upcoming-tabletop-holographic-gaming-system-developed-with-linux [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tilt Five, an upcoming tabletop holographic gaming system developed with Linux | GamingOnLinux [18:29] techrights-bot/fn #debt as corporations http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials [18:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Financials - Techrights [18:30] techrights-bot/fn Warren's departure confirms it. #gatesfoundation is dead. It's just not ready to formally announce it yet. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [18:31] techrights-bot/fn "The Linux version appears to continue working well, although the mouse cursor is a bit on the large side in menus but in-game all is actually fine." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/anger-foot-continues-being-absolutely-door-kicking-crazy-in-a-new-update [18:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anger Foot continues being absolutely door-kicking crazy in a new update | GamingOnLinux [18:31] *mib_xbuaup (~bcc1a50b@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:31] XFaCE Warren's departure confirms it. #gatesfoundation is dead. It's just not ready to formally announce it yet. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique [18:31] XFaCE or potentially to be massively rebranded/restructured [18:32] schestowitz yes [18:32] schestowitz that too [18:32] schestowitz to still evade taxes [18:32] schestowitz https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/us/politics/bill-gates-elizabeth-warren-wealth-tax.html [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Objects to Elizabeth Warrens Wealth Tax, and She Offers to Explain - The New York Times [18:32] schestowitz shortly after https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [18:32] schestowitz 4 weeks after [18:32] XFaCE Considering their prior funding engagements I think marketing change is most likely [18:32] XFaCE -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Objects to Elizabeth Warrens Wealth Tax, and She Offers to Explain - The New York Times [18:33] schestowitz The Bill and Bill Foundation [18:33] XFaCE Yet he and Buffet were on the tax the rich sloganeering train [18:33] schestowitz maybe he and clinton can avert breakup [18:33] schestowitz they have lots of commonality after all [18:35] XFaCE Can he make one more dodge... he's had a 100% success rate so far [18:36] *mib_xbuaup has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [18:36] XFaCE Anti-Trust, vaccination program scandals, media complicity, common core cronyism, Epstein, vaccine patents... [18:37] XFaCE the mansion employee [18:37] ciphrCat yesterday I overlooked the fact that libera.chat's website goes through Microsoft assets because my script runs this: 'torsocks whois -h whois.radb.net -H -T route -- "-i origin AS54113"' for every Microsoft ASN to get IP ranges. But because Github uses Fastly, I missed it. Anyone know how I might smarten my script to find hosts that traverse Microsoft assets? I could scrape ipinfo.io for every [18:37] ciphrCat website I'm checking, but that's a bit costly and clumbsy (and my script would have to know that Github implies MS) [18:38] schestowitz they try to leverage github to get a foothold on hosting [18:38] schestowitz seeing they missed the boat [18:38] schestowitz clownflare, aws etc. [18:38] schestowitz and they already lost the server market [18:38] schestowitz esp. webservers [18:38] XFaCE the "free" server market [18:38] schestowitz lunch market [18:38] schestowitz you are lunch [18:39] XFaCE the surveiled dependent consumer market [18:46] techrights-bot/fn #Games : Space Chef, Tilt Five, Dota 2, Anger Foot, and Valheim http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152630 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Space Chef, Tilt Five, Dota 2, Anger Foot, and Valheim | Tux Machines [18:46] activelow telco sabotaged consumer access lines: no static IP, no dns record, throttled uplink, recent introduction of carrier grade NAT [18:47] activelow otherwise most small business could self-host on their tiny router, including some static website instead of facebook, own voice conferencing or even video [18:49] activelow EU was marketing this as "market" "competition" etc., they're only pushing BIG business and big cash, to funnel cash into shareholder pockets at stock exchange [18:52] activelow zoom and skype or the final excretion of this agenda; anyone knows if zoom participants can connect with skype/teams? [18:52] activelow imagine if Telco had implemented services such as plain old telephone (POTS) and locked out their competition, such as Vodafone couldn't call DT customers. [18:58] activelow i had noticed head of FSFE received "Theodor Heuss medal of honor", which is german liberals (FDP) [18:59] XFaCE Thanks for the insight activelow ● Jun 24 [19:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 39.20 swarm size (avg): 304.55 [19:01] activelow FDP and their gang members had ties into Telco, City of Bonn germany where Deutsche Telekom is headquartered, Finance Ministry (BaFiN banking supervision), and predating their relocation to Berlin German Parliament and Ministry of Foreign Affairs [19:03] activelow FDP by tradition occupied ministry of foreign affairs, maybe this is why my amok run had pulled some strings [19:03] activelow they are still wondering "why", why an income below minimum wage may not be appropriate for international telco management [19:04] techrights-bot/fn #OpenDocument Format 1.3 Approved As OASIS Standard http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152601#comment-30050 [19:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ODF 1.3 is an OASIS Standard | Tux Machines [19:10] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152631 [19:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:11] techrights-bot/fn #BSDNow : "Report from virtual #FreeBSD DevSummit 2021, another promising release by FreeBSD Based helloSystem, #GearBSD, #OpenBGPD release, Lets Encrypt on OpenBSD, FreeBSD 13 on the Panasonic Lets Note, and more" https://www.bsdnow.tv/408 [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 408: FreeBSD DevSummit 2021 [19:11] activelow predating the "privatisation" nonsense telco engineers were employed as state officials responsible for critical infrastructure [19:12] techrights-bot/fn They don't even need to be tricked because there are back doors and many zero-day flaws https://www.maketecheasier.com/ransomware-attack-at-call-centers/ #microsoft #windows [19:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Windows Users Tricked into Ransomware Attack at Call Centers - Make Tech Easier [19:14] techrights-bot/fn #microsoft has moved into #vista11 'noise machine' mode in order to distract from catastrophes, blunders, and crises. Don't fall for it. Pay attention to what they distract from... with all this vapourware. [19:15] techrights-bot/fn #microsoft is even #googlebombing "LINUX" right now in order to throw people off their focus and divert attention to mere vapourware. [19:15] XFaCE schestowitz: all frosting, no cake... it reminds me of old MS-DOS releases where the change was bundled programs [19:16] techrights-bot/fn #theRegister is helping #microsoft , using clickbait, to googlebomb "LINUX" right now. As one might expect from them... http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ [19:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | Techrights [19:17] techrights-bot/fn Cockpit Project: Cockpit 247 https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-247.html #gnu #linux #server #freesw [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cockpit-project.org | Cockpit 247 Cockpit Project [19:22] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1775602 [19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Apple exec: Sideloading in this case is actually eliminating choice | Ars Technica [19:25] techrights-bot/fn #KDEneon 20210624 https://neon.kde.org/ #kde #gnu #linux [19:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neon.kde.org | KDE neon [19:25] activelow oh mistake, FSFE organization received the Theodor-Heuss medal-of-honor, their leading head was decorated with German Federal Order of Merit even [19:25] activelow seems to me FSFE is a party politics outpost of FDP germany [19:26] schestowitz hi AdmFubar [19:26] schestowitz Sideloading" is a misnomer [19:26] schestowitz they demonise people who do what they want with devices they bought [19:26] kingoffrance ^ [19:26] schestowitz activelow: FSFE is partly Google front [19:27] schestowitz they also take Microsoft money [19:27] psydroid Google Android is even more malicious now [19:27] schestowitz and they're NOT FSF http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/ [19:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisations Name) | Techrights [19:27] schestowitz founder of KDE received the medal, not FSFE [19:27] schestowitz I cannot recall is FSFE received any sort of medal [19:27] schestowitz 'FSF'E [19:27] schestowitz even the E is wrong [19:27] activelow schestowitz: it is noted on german language wikipedia [19:27] schestowitz it's German [19:27] schestowitz almost exclusively [19:27] psydroid they disable apps installed from the Play Store and F-Droid, seemingly at random [19:28] schestowitz I call them Google Germany [19:28] schestowitz activelow: their wikipedia entry is written by themselves [19:28] schestowitz click "Talk" [19:28] schestowitz it was suggested for removal at one point [19:28] schestowitz they use wikipedia for self promotion [19:31] techrights-bot/fn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152588#comment-30051 [19:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brave Search Engine Opens For Beta Testing | Tux Machines [19:31] techrights-bot/fn 9 Features in Brave Search That Make it a Great Google Search Alternative http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152588#comment-30051 [19:32] activelow schestowitz: they tried to incarcerate me [19:32] techrights-bot/fn Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152632 [19:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:33] techrights-bot/fn Audiocasts/Shows: BSDNow, TLLTS, Bad Voltage, Coder Radio http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152633 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #BSD #UNIX [19:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: BSDNow, TLLTS, Bad Voltage, Coder Radio | Tux Machines [19:33] techrights-bot/fn #ProprietarySoftware and #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152634 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:34] schestowitz activelow: you keep saying that without any context [19:37] techrights-bot/fn "my role as a Data Engineer here at Mozilla." Sounds like #surveiilance to me. #mozilla #firefox https://wrla.ch/blog/2021/06/mini-sabbatical-and-introducing-irydium/ [19:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wrla.ch | Mini-sabbatical and introducing Irydium [19:37] activelow this is part of the problem, to namecall specific entities is difficult, since they are hiding behind govnermental bureaucratic walls [19:37] techrights-bot/fn #SparkyLinux 2021.06 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152635 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #debian [19:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sparky 2021.06 | Tux Machines [19:37] activelow and place some smirking visage on TV screens [19:38] techrights-bot/fn Too much clownwashing by #Arduino lately. Just say server, enough with this clownish marketing slant. https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/24/private-sketches-for-arduino-cloud/ [19:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Make Your Arduino Cloud Sketches Private or Public | Arduino Blog [19:38] schestowitz activelow: that's a universal problem [19:39] schestowitz people->corporations->governments [19:39] schestowitz people cast their shadow upon their workers [19:39] schestowitz in capitalism you can control a million in the workforce, directly [19:39] schestowitz and those people in turn control the governments [19:39] schestowitz so few people control just about everything and everyone [19:39] schestowitz (from the shadows) [19:40] schestowitz see EPO [19:41] techrights-bot/fn PGA2040 is a Compact #RaspberryPi RP2040 Breakout Board by Pimoroni - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/24/pga2040-is-compact-raspberry-pi-rp2040-breakout-board-by-pimoroni/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | PGA2040 is a Compact Raspberry Pi RP2040 Breakout Board by Pimoroni - CNX Software [19:41] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [19:41] schestowitz sometimes instead of a corporation they also set up shell 'foundations' [19:41] schestowitz like http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [19:41] schestowitz either way, at the end it's few people dominating billions of people [19:41] schestowitz sometimes via policy [19:42] schestowitz like African governments being 'bought' by them [19:42] techrights-bot/fn #Avnet AVT9152 - nRF52840 & nRF91 IoT module and devkit - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/24/avnet-avt9152-nrf52840-nrf91-iot-module-and-devkit/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/24/#latest [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Avnet AVT9152 - nRF52840 & nRF91 IoT module and devkit - CNX Software [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:44] techrights-bot/fn Automating rule-based services with Java and Kogito | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/06/24/automating-rule-based-services-java-and-kogito warning: #ibm #redhat now blocking from its site people who don't run #proprietarySoftware (JS) [19:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Automating rule-based services with Java and Kogito | Red Hat Developer [19:46] techrights-bot/fn #Tokei needs to #deletegithub because it's #proprietarySoftware and a competitor owned by a criminal enterprise, #microsoft https://opensource.com/article/21/6/tokei [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-View statistics about your code with Tokei | Opensource.com [19:46] activelow i don't think everyone acted in bad faith either, nonetheless it isn't the business of some soccer millionaire from munich to decide upon telco engineering priorities [19:46] activelow telco engineering doesn't belong into the hands of party politics either [19:47] activelow the dust of the privatisation chaos hasn't settled yet [19:48] techrights-bot/fn Introduce x86 assembler accelerated implementation for SM4 algorithm https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210624080857.126660-1-tianjia.zhang@linux.alibaba.com/ needs to #deletegithub though; reduce #linux #kernel deps on #proprietarySoftware [19:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v2 0/4] Introduce x86 assembler accelerated implementation for SM4 algorithm - Tianjia Zhang [19:48] ciphrCat Time to Ban Surveillance-Based Advertising (drafted in #Norway but pitched to the #EU): https://www.forbrukerradet.no/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/20210622-final-report-time-to-ban-surveillance-based-advertising.pdf [19:49] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights [19:50] techrights-bot/fn [via ciphrCat] Time to Ban Surveillance-Based Advertising https://www.forbrukerradet.no/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/20210622-final-report-time-to-ban-surveillance-based-advertising.pdf [19:52] techrights-bot/fn Humour now allowed anymore https://lwn.net/Articles/857765/ #freesw #censorship [19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Code humor and inclusiveness [LWN.net] [19:52] techrights-bot/fn Humour not allowed anymore https://lwn.net/Articles/857765/ #freesw #censorship because jokes hurt feelings.... :-) [19:52] gustaf best way to deal with surveillance capitalism is to shift the costs [19:53] techrights-bot/fn Microsoft's attack on #Linux is progressing gradually but surely https://lwn.net/Articles/857215/ [19:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Implementing eBPF for Windows [LWN.net] [19:54] techrights-bot/fn When your supply chain is #microsoft #nsa (e.g. #github and #npm ) maybe you tackle the wrong problem in the wrong way https://lwn.net/Articles/859965/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [19:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora and supply-chain attacks [LWN.net] [19:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [19:55] techrights-bot/fn #Audacity has its own Andrew Lee now. I think sooner or later there will be a hard fork. https://lwn.net/Articles/859599/ #freesw [19:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Audacity gets a CLA [LWN.net] [19:57] schestowitz gustaf: that's one approach [19:57] schestowitz we now have our health service pondering sale of medical data [19:57] schestowitz like GP notes, I suppose... [19:58] schestowitz but the backlash grew, so it's on the ice temporarily [19:58] psymin a specific type of medical data, or all data in general? [19:59] schestowitz I don't know ● Jun 24 [20:00] schestowitz maybe it's even 'anonymised [20:00] schestowitz they keep the IDs somewhere [20:00] schestowitz like startpage does [20:00] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage [20:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights [20:01] activelow apropos "surveillance based advertising", labor market is exposed to this too since this was "liberalised" [20:02] activelow data scrapers attached to employment agency database, outsourcing fake engineering offices, fake vacancies, vacancies which resemble vendors advertising their products [20:02] activelow EU is heavily subsidizing this, recall numbers 70% of startups are zombi business, the data scrapers in labor market are subsidized by EU [20:03] activelow these business habits poisoned into the realm of defense even [20:03] ciphrCat AFAICT, the warehouse worker would be working for a vendor that uses untargetted ads instead of one that's part of surveillance capitalism [20:05] activelow to namecall aiming at the top: Ursula van der Leyen, former ministry of defense [20:06] activelow it is somewhat ironic they fear "proliferation" and "industrial espionage" with exposing defense and telco to such a type of "market" EU seeks to protect [20:14] techrights-bot/fn #Monopolies Under Fire http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152636 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Monopolies Under Fire | Tux Machines [20:14] techrights-bot/fn Digital Restrictions (DRM) Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152637 #DRM [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Digital Restrictions (DRM) Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:17] activelow EU antitrust rulings are a scam, as if replacing internet explorer with firefox had posed a threat to the business entities involved, ridiculous [20:18] activelow same with Office Document Formats; had they advertised TeX typesetting and recommended as lecture in schools? no. [20:20] techrights-bot/fn Links 24/6/2021: Sparky 2021.06 and #KMyMoney 5.1.2 http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/kmymoney-5-1-2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/24/kmymoney-5-1-2/ [20:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/6/2021: Sparky 2021.06 and KMyMoney 5.1.2 | Techrights [20:20] techrights-bot/fn #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152638 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:21] techrights-bot/fn #OpenHardware /Modding Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152639 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:21] techrights-bot/fn #Kernel Space: #Microsoft Intrusion, Censorship, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152640 #Linux #TuxMachines [20:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space: Microsoft Intrusion, Censorship, and More | Tux Machines [20:22] techrights-bot/fn Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152641 [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [20:26] MinceR (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/20/5bff4d4db740696d.jpg [20:30] techrights-bot/fn Un-Install #android as a whole https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-is-android-system-webview/ [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | What Is Android System WebView and Should You Uninstall It? - Make Tech Easier [20:34] DaemonFC Windows 10 with rounded corners is "released" although there's no download links yet. [20:34] XRevan86 DaemonFC: It's not released [20:34] techrights-bot/fn #DVD Authoring Tool #DVDStyler 3.2 Released! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152642 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DVD Authoring Tool DVDStyler 3.2 Released! | Tux Machines [20:34] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152643 [20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:34] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Also it's actually not Windows 10, because they've made it worse: UEFI-only, no local account for Home editions, etc. [20:35] XRevan86 and there are cosmetic changes in there too, yes [20:36] DaemonFC "Windows 11 now requires an x86_64 or ARM64 processor; support for IA-32 processors has been removed. BIOS is no longer supported; a UEFI system with Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 is now required.[43][44] S mode is no longer supported and needs to be switched out of before upgrading.[45]" [20:37] XRevan86 "with Secure Boot and TPM 2.0" I'm curious if they're joking or not [20:37] XRevan86 are they actually planning on destroying VMs? [20:37] XRevan86 "support for IA-32 processors has been removed" that's the most insignificant thing here [20:38] XRevan86 It's way too heavy to even be realistically used with any IA-32 processor. [20:39] techrights-bot/fn Now it's #phoronix helping to hype up #microsoft #vapourware ^_^ http://techrights.org/2021/04/20/phoronix-and-microsoft/ [20:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Phoronix Needs to Exercise Caution and Stay Vigilant/Careful of Microsoft | Techrights [20:40] activelow "lol" https://raspberrytips.com/install-windows10-raspberry-pi/ [20:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Install Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi? (Illustrated Guide) RaspberryTips [20:41] ciphrCat so, no one can answer my question? [20:41] techrights-bot/fn Either way, to be sure, #Microsoft will start to make lots of noise and make as many distractions as they can. Much of it will center around #Vista11 today or tomorrow." http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ [20:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsofts Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights [20:41] MinceR ah, so the rounded corners and new icons come with new misfeatures [20:42] techrights-bot/fn #PostgreSQL 14 Beta 2 Released! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152644 #db #freesw [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL 14 Beta 2 Released! | Tux Machines [20:42] techrights-bot/fn Support the #FSF tech team http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152645 [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Support the FSF tech team | Tux Machines [20:43] techrights-bot/fn Canonical and Blender Partner to Provide Support Options http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152592#comment-30052 [20:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical launches Blender LTS support | Tux Machines [20:44] techrights-bot/fn #proprietarySoftware junk https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/have-a-dell-desktop-or-laptop-you-should-upgrade-your-firmware-now [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Have a Dell desktop or laptop? You should upgrade your firmware now | GamingOnLinux [20:45] immibis even linux drops cpu arch support. but you can have it out-of-tree [20:48] techrights-bot/fn "On top of that the hand-made map pool has been expanded with all previous 1v1 ranked maps in it. Planetary Annihilation Inc also upgraded their own servers, so online games should run better than ever." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/planetary-annihilation-titans-gets-a-new-series-of-fusion-updates [20:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Planetary Annihilation: TITANS gets a new series of Fusion Updates | GamingOnLinux [20:51] MinceR https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/06/13/924943d58bac5812.jpg [20:52] techrights-bot/fn #proprietarySoftware in ACTION: "These vulnerabilities could lead to a privileged network adversary impersonating Dell.com and gaining arbitrary code execution support at the BIOS/UEFI level." LOL! Clusterfuck! Who allows remote changes?! https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dell-BIOS-Disconnect-Vuln [20:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dell BIOS/UEFI Under Attack From New Vulnerabilities - Use FWUPD For The Latest Updates - Phoronix [20:53] techrights-bot/fn Joey Sneddon also pushing #vista11 #vapourware ... because of course Joey Sneddon does... #microsoft could REALLY use the distraction right now: http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ [20:54] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/06/24/microsofts-windows-11-is-incompatible-with-many-pcs-comes-with-more-junk-and-mandates-restricted-boot/ [20:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Microsofts Windows 11 is incompatible with many PCs, comes with more junk, and mandates Restricted Boot. BaronHK's Rants [20:55] DaemonFC schestowitz, "I have traffic court soon, and even though the state is open, these horrible Zoom court meetings are still going.. Its like watching live action people of Walmart and half of them cant even figure out not to cuss out a judge or pay their court fines even though they have a $1,700 iPhone they cant find the Silend Mode switch on. Perhaps Ill talk about that after court is over." [20:55] techrights-bot/fn Adding complexity where none is typically needed. https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/24/postgres_kubernetes_danger/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IDC [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Enterprise databases deployed in Kubernetes? Proceed with caution, warns seasoned analyst The Register [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IDC - Techrights [20:55] techrights-bot/fn #Games : Planetary Annihilation: TITANS, Steam Summer Sale, and PULSAR: Lost Colony http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152646 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Planetary Annihilation: TITANS, Steam Summer Sale, and PULSAR: Lost Colony | Tux Machines [20:58] techrights-bot/fn Welcome to #MyGNUHealth , the Libre Personal #Health Record http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152647 #gnu #freesw [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome to MyGNUHealth, the Libre Personal Health Record | Tux Machines ● Jun 24 [21:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 75.96 swarm size (avg): 304.43 [21:00] techrights-bot/fn How #freesw devs make a living? https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/06/24/sending-those-stickers/ [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sending those stickers | daniel.haxx.se [21:01] techrights-bot/fn #Proxmox 7.0-beta1 "VE" is out https://www.proxmox.com/en/ #austria #gnu #linux [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proxmox - Powerful open-source server solutions [21:04] schestowitz MinceR: nails it [21:04] techrights-bot/fn #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152648 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:05] techrights-bot/fn Valve's Dota 2 Adds #AMD #FidelityFX Super Resolution - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dota-2-FidelityFX-Super-Res #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve's Dota 2 Adds AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution - Phoronix [21:06] techrights-bot/fn Linux Kernel's #BPF Fixed Up Against Spectre Vulnerability Bypass - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-BPF-Spectre-33624 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Kernel's BPF Fixed Up Against Spectre Vulnerability Bypass - Phoronix [21:08] techrights-bot/fn So #amazon #aws should just remove itself https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AWS-BugBust must be a slow news for #phoronix to prod on with this fluff. AWS is no ally. http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon Launches AWS BugBust With A Goal To Fix One Million Software Bugs - Phoronix [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights [21:09] techrights-bot/fn "Too little, too late. I'm still signing the petition." (to keep Bezos and his h in space) https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1264069-amazon-launches-aws-bugbust-with-a-goal-to-fix-one-million-software-bugs [21:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon Launches AWS BugBust With A Goal To Fix One Million Software Bugs - Phoronix Forums [21:10] techrights-bot/fn #Google is NOT freedom. https://chromeunboxed.com/steam-on-chrome-os-is-so-close-i-can-taste-it/ [21:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromeunboxed.com | Steam on Chrome OS is so close I can taste it [21:11] techrights-bot/fn "Chromium ungoogled is the Chromium Web Browser with Google hooks disabled or removed. If replacing your existing Chromium browser then please delete .config/chromium folder to start with a clean profile." #pclinuxos #pclos #gnu #linux https://www.pclinuxos.com/?p=4856 [21:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromium-ungoogled updated to 91.0.4472.101 PCLinuxOS [21:12] techrights-bot/fn "Significant server enhancements: Introducing Ubuntu, the most popular Linux distribution worldwide" https://www.claris.com/blog/2021/more-power-no-limits-the-latest-claris-product-release [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More power. No limits. The latest Claris product release. [21:13] techrights-bot/fn "Our goal with this new channel is to provide user-friendly guides into the add-ons world, focused on topics that are at the top of Firefox users minds. And, because were publishing directly on AMO, you can install the add-ons directly from the article pages" https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/06/24/review-articles-amo-new-blog-name/ [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Review Articles on AMO and New Blog Name | Mozilla Add-ons Community Blog [21:15] techrights-bot/fn "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #Garuda #KDE Dragonized 210621 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6I_hHVzjCU #gnu #linux [21:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux overview | Garuda KDE Dragonized 210621 - YouTube [21:17] ciphrCat the problem with the /keep Bezos off Earth/ petition is that it's hosted on a Cloudflare site, which excludes some people from the democratic process. It's anti-democratic. [21:17] techrights-bot/fn Fedora Linux 34 Release Party videos available https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-linux-34-release-party-videos-available-now/ #ibm #fakecommunity #fedoraproject | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/24/#latest [21:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Linux 34 Release Party videos available now Fedora Community Blog [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:18] techrights-bot/fn COVID Origins and Gain of Function with Sam Husseini https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/podcasts/covid-origins-and-gain-of-function-with-sam-husseini/ [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-COVID Origins and Gain of Function with Sam Husseini - unlimitedhangout.com [21:20] ciphrCat has anyone suggested a separate channel for techrights-bot? Perhaps #techrights-news or something, to cut down on the clutter? [21:20] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMapmlUwerw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjwTRt582Hs [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-{YTP} ~ Wow! It's Made! - YouTube [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-{YTP} ~ Wow! It's Made: Revelations (WIM 2) - YouTube [21:20] MinceR ciphrCat: not yet, but it's a good idea [21:20] schestowitz ciphrCat: possible [21:20] schestowitz if we move it across to this network [21:21] schestowitz I still am not sure what to do about the peanut gallery [21:21] schestowitz they stalk our official channels [21:21] schestowitz maybe we can use them as "unmoderated" cruft [21:21] schestowitz but... better not waste time on that [21:22] DaemonFC schestowitz, Windows 11 pretty much won't run on many PCs from before 2018. [21:22] ciphrCat what do you mean by stalk? is that like lurking silently? [21:22] techrights-bot/fn The #Ubuntu Wallpaper Contest is Back After 2 Year Break https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/06/ubuntu-21-10-wallpaper-competition-is-here slow news day... WALLPAPERS!! [21:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | The Ubuntu Wallpaper Contest is Back After 2 Year Break - OMG! Ubuntu! [21:23] DaemonFC This is the most aggressive trimming of legacy compatibility I've ever seen from Microsoft. [21:23] schestowitz ciphrCat: sort of [21:23] schestowitz maybe that's the wrong term anyway [21:24] DaemonFC They don't want to support anything more than a few years old at time of release. [21:24] schestowitz hmmm... ddos [21:26] DaemonFC I'm still watching traffic court. [21:26] DaemonFC My attorney wasn't joking. [21:26] DaemonFC I've not seen any witnesses bother to show up in a citation leading to traffic accident case. [21:27] DaemonFC The only witnesses who have shown up so far are some security guards from the mall for some trespassing and theft charges that got kicked over into traffic court. [21:28] DaemonFC I started hearing about the mall and I'm like "Wait, this is traffic court." so I thought they were doing something car-related in the parking lot or something. [21:28] schestowitz they changed ddos pattern a bit [21:29] schestowitz would not give actual details in a logged channel [21:29] DaemonFC DR-DOS....Almost as good as FreeDOS, for a price. [21:31] schestowitz ciphrCat: maybe we'll pass the bot over in the weekend [21:31] schestowitz it's wired to some code I wrote and i can think of 3-4 places that need changing [21:32] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:33] techrights-bot/fn #AudioTube nightly builds available https://jbbgameich.github.io/kde/2021/06/24/audiotube-binaries.html #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #kde [21:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jbbgameich.github.io | AudioTube nightly builds available [21:34] techrights-bot/fn Seungha Yang: #GStreamer Media Foundation Video Encoder Is Now Faster https://medium.com/@seungha.yang/gstreamer-media-foundation-video-encoder-is-now-faster-direct3d11-awareness-20c1568dd4ab [21:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GStreamer Media Foundation Video Encoder Is Now Faster Direct3D11 Awareness | by Seungha Yang | Jun, 2021 | Medium [21:36] techrights-bot/fn Developing #Games on #GNU #Linux : An Interview with Little Red Dog GamesLittle Red Dog Games is an indie... https://blog.system76.com/post/654884924769370112 [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.system76.com | System76 Blog Developing Games on Linux: An Interview with... [21:37] techrights-bot/fn NVIDIA TAOTransfer Learning Toolkit (TLT) 3.0 released with pre-trained models - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/24/nvidia-tao-transfer-learning-toolkit-tlt-3-0-released-with-pre-trained-models/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/24/#latest [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | NVIDIA TAOTransfer Learning Toolkit (TLT) 3.0 released with pre-trained models - CNX Software [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:38] techrights-bot/fn The same company that put #nsa 'weakened' (compromised) ciphers inside #linux #kernel ... does NOT care about REAL #security ... piss off, #google https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Google-Vulnerability-Schema [21:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Proposes An Open-Source Vulnerability Interchange Schema - Phoronix [21:40] techrights-bot/fn Upgraded #LoRaWAN gateway adds #NodeRED support http://linuxgizmos.com/upgraded-lorawan-gateway-adds-node-red-support/ #LinuxGizmos #Hardware #Devices [21:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/upgraded-lorawan-gateway-adds-node-red-support/ ) [21:41] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/dogs-bark-when-theyre-hungry-too.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/1024/ ) [21:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [21:42] schestowitz He died hungary [21:42] schestowitz with covid-19 [21:42] schestowitz number 2. [21:42] schestowitz hungary second [21:43] MinceR :> [21:43] MinceR russia first [21:43] schestowitz I checked again last night [21:43] schestowitz no, peru first :-) [21:43] MinceR :> [21:43] schestowitz russia zero [21:43] schestowitz better than classic [21:43] schestowitz russia lies about death toll I assume [21:43] schestowitz same as china [21:44] schestowitz Hungarians drop dead with Viktor fidelz with hiz doorbell [21:44] schestowitz *while Vickor [21:45] MinceR or he could fiddle with the gearshift -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDCFs5A1E1A [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[YTP] Too Much Fiddling With The Gearshift - YouTube [21:46] schestowitz weird video [21:46] MinceR it's YouTube Poop :> [21:47] schestowitz what substance do I need to be on to watch the whole video till the end? [21:47] MinceR oxygen [21:47] schestowitz ha [21:48] schestowitz note to self: "weekend bot: techrights-news, change ff-post, irc yesterday, notes for restarting bot, logger tail cron job alias for bot" [21:48] schestowitz I'll cross that over [21:48] schestowitz quite a few tasks, many tests needed afterwards [21:48] schestowitz 99% of the messages here, except that one, are localhost [21:50] techrights-bot/fn #antitrust complaints against #microsoft well overdue https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/06/24/microsofts-windows-11-is-incompatible-with-many-pcs-comes-with-more-junk-and-mandates-restricted-boot/see http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ [21:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/06/24/microsofts-windows-11-is-incompatible-with-many-pcs-comes-with-more-junk-and-mandates-restricted-boot/see ) [21:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsofts Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights [21:55] techrights-bot/fn Neon: Maliit Keyboard Now Available on #Wayland https://blog.neon.kde.org/2021/06/24/neon-maliit-keyboard-now-available-on-wayland/ #kdeNeon #kde #gnu #linux [21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.neon.kde.org | Neon: Maliit Keyboard Now Available on Wayland KDE neon Developers' Blog [21:56] techrights-bot/fn #Games : Developing on GNU/Linux, FidelityFX, and Steam on Chrome OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152649 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Developing on GNU/Linux, FidelityFX, and Steam on Chrome OS | Tux Machines [21:56] techrights-bot/fn #Kubernetes News and #Istio Flaw Patched http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152650 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubernetes News and Istio Flaw Patched | Tux Machines [21:57] techrights-bot/fn #Ubuntu 21.10 Wallpaper Competition http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152651 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Wallpaper Competition | Tux Machines [21:59] techrights-bot/fn Another Test Drive With Crocus #Gallium3D On Old #Intel Hardware - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ivy-bridge-crocus&num=1 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Test Drive With Crocus Gallium3D On Old Intel Hardware - Phoronix ● Jun 24 [22:02] techrights-bot/fn The 5 Best Free Replacements for #MySQL #Server http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152652 [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 5 Best Free Replacements for MySQL Server | Tux Machines [22:03] techrights-bot/fn Top 10 best #Raspberrypi projects http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152653 #gnu #linux [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 best Raspberry pi projects | Tux Machines [22:05] techrights-bot/fn "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now signed by 6,771 people. Growing faster than I expected. #fsf #gnu #rms #freesw #FailedCoup [22:06] techrights-bot/fn #microsoft is now #googlebombing "ANDROID" with its #vista11 spam and #vapourware ... they are DESPERATE for distraction and full their media propaganda operatives at FULL BLAST. Distract from... http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ h [22:08] techrights-bot/fn Pablo Iranzo Gmez: #Redken machine learning for spam detection https://iranzo.io/blog/2021/06/24/redken-machine-learning-for-spam-detection/ [22:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iranzo.io | Redken machine learning for spamdetection Pablo Iranzo Gmez's blog [22:08] techrights-bot/fn The term "sideloading" is a malicious misnomer put forth by tyrants like #apple https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/apples-anti-sideloading-pr-blitz-includes-white-papers-interviews/ [22:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Apple exec: Sideloading in this case is actually eliminating choice | Ars Technica [22:14] techrights-bot/fn "The #EPO continues to make this data available as downloadable Excel sheets" https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210624.html EPO outsourced, ILLEGALLY, to #microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [22:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO Data Hub: explore patent filing trends with new free mobile app [22:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights [22:23] techrights-bot/fn Marketing stunts spun as "research process" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sdhds95td7t7/women-in-business-law-awards-europe-2021-winners-announced [22:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Women in Business Law Awards Europe 2021: winners announced | Managing Intellectual Property [22:24] MinceR (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/20/d3aa4f9dba1a1a91.jpg [22:25] techrights-bot/fn "Just have noticed that normally I have 4 editors/IDEs running at the same time: Comma for modules and an in-house project Vim for scripts, blog and articles, and Perl [...]" https://vrurg.github.io/2021/06/24/working-environment [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vrurg.github.io | My Work Environment - LFlat, The Home of Vrurg [22:26] techrights-bot/fn "The new #firefox UI is kind of controversial so how about we just go and change it back to what it used to be, turns out it's incredibly easy to do so and it's just as easy to go and make your own custom tweaks." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECta0icNMgY [22:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Firefox UI Fixed In A Few Easy Steps - YouTube [22:28] techrights-bot/fn Buzzwords that are used or misused to grant illegal #softwarepatents and other #fakepatents . #WIPO has been run by thugs and the law doesn't bother them. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sdtddtvn4shd/new-frontier-wipo-ai-chief-explores-impact-of-breakthrough-tech [22:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | New frontier: WIPO AI chief explores impact of breakthrough tech | Managing Intellectual Property [22:30] techrights-bot/fn Crooked judges boosted by proponents of #patent #litigation because they're patent profiteers (or media funded by them). What does that say about the state of the media? PR for sale. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sf0vjtt622ph/albright-and-counsel-say-wdtx-standing-orders-bolster-fairness39 [22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Albright and counsel say WDTX standing orders bolster fairness' | Managing Intellectual Property [22:32] activelow the demarcation line was crossed beyond linux kernel down to u-boot territory, imo EFI doesn't belong into linux kernel, doesn't belong into u-boot, and neither into grub [22:32] activelow same with ACPI [22:33] techrights-bot/fn Even polluters disguise themselves as some sort of charities https://www.autoremarketing.com/retail/28-organizations-benefit-latest-round-grants-nissan-foundation [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.autoremarketing.com | 28 organizations benefit from latest round of grants by Nissan Foundation | Auto Remarketing [22:34] activelow init of video output (HDMI) is f****, the entire amd graphics stack in kernel is f****, millions of lines of code of crap [22:35] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/linux-bloat-meme/ [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux is Becoming a Code Burial Ground, Sometimes at the Expense of Size and Complexity (Bloat) | Techrights [22:35] schestowitz activelow: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57600479 [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Euro 2020: Last-16 tie against Germany 'very tough test' for England, says Jordan Henderson - BBC Sport [22:37] alextee http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/ this was pretty eye opening wrt tax evasion [22:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called Linux Foundation | Techrights [22:37] alextee i never thought of it that way but it makes sense now [22:38] alextee microsoft/ibm "donate" to linux foundation to do marketing/advertising for them [22:38] techrights-bot/fn Get started with Anaconda #Python https://www.reseller.co.nz/article/689129/get-started-anaconda-python/ #programming [22:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reseller.co.nz | Get started with Anaconda Python - Reseller News [22:39] techrights-bot/fn #microsoft #windows #proprietarySoftware https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/753574/computer-freezes-when-doing-2-or-3-tasks-together-and-reboots/ [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Computer freezes when doing 2 or 3 tasks together and reboots. - Windows 10 Support [22:40] techrights-bot/fn "We are not the users of their network. We *are* the network." https://onezero.medium.com/the-internet-is-us-bea56ae39443 now if you use #GAFAM sites/ #socialcontrolmedia [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-onezero.medium.com | The Internet is Us. We are not the users of their network | by Douglas Rushkoff | Jun, 2021 | OneZero [22:42] psydroid Vista 11 won't run on any of my hardware lol [22:42] psydroid And that's how I like it [22:42] techrights-bot/fn A quick-start guide to #OpenZFS native #encryption https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/a-quick-start-guide-to-openzfs-native-encryption/ they need to #deletegithub though .... it's #proprietarysoftware in NSA PRISM via #microsoft [22:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | A quick-start guide to OpenZFS native encryption | Ars Technica [22:44] techrights-bot/fn #Facebook must be shunned before implementing a vision of the future where people spy on each other, even if there are no Facebook account https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/facebooks-new-patent-is-a-strange-new-look-for-ar-4147301 [22:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.trustedreviews.com | Facebook's new patent is a strange new look for AR | Trusted Reviews [22:45] techrights-bot/fn #Atlassian Bugs Could Have Led to 1-Click Takeover | #Threatpost https://threatpost.com/atlassian-bugs-could-have-led-to-1-click-takeover/167203/ complexity in #jira is costly, potentially... use #mantis instead (I love it) [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Atlassian Bugs Could Have Led to 1-Click Takeover | Threatpost [22:45] activelow psydroid: my distro won't run on most of commodity hardware anymore either [22:46] techrights-bot/fn #Facebook Is Working on an Amazingly Hideous Augmented Reality Fedora https://futurism.com/facebook-augmented-reality-fedora they also have #patents on eye tracking. #surveillance #patents [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Facebook Is Working on an Amazingly Hideous Augmented Reality Fedora [22:47] psydroid activelow, it's sad that it has come to this, especially when the hardware is still quite capable in most cases [22:47] techrights-bot/fn #facebook isn't trying to be creepy. It IS creepy, and it's run by creeps. https://www.businessinsider.com/embarrassing-and-damaging-zuckerberg-ims-confirmed-by-zuckerberg-the-new-yorker-2010-9?r=US&IR=T [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | "Embarrassing and Damaging" Zuckerberg IMs Confirmed by Zuckerberg, the New Yorker [22:49] techrights-bot/fn #Blinken Warns That #NordStream 2 Could Be Coercivie Tool Against Europe https://www.rferl.org/a/blinken-nord-stream-germany-merkel-maas-russia-ukraine/31323596.html #rferl #de | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/24/#latest [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rferl.org | Blinken Warns That Nord Stream 2 Could Be 'Coercivie Tool' Against Europe [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:51] techrights-bot/fn Blender 2.93.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882#comment-30054 [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines [22:51] schestowitz psydroid: https://blocksandfiles.com/2021/06/15/intel-im-already-the-biggest-dpu-shipper/ [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blocksandfiles.com | Intel: Im already the biggest DPU shipper Blocks and Files [22:52] schestowitz alextee: thanks, glad you find that framing enlightening [22:52] schestowitz I can expand on that point if needed [22:53] schestowitz they pay a few salaries [22:53] schestowitz to torvalds [22:53] schestowitz in exchange they get to use the brand [22:53] schestowitz it's a marketing firm with perks like tax workarounds [22:53] schestowitz and their clients get to also control the staff [22:53] schestowitz clients like Oracle, FB.. [22:54] alextee really corrupt [22:54] techrights-bot/fn This article will not age well. https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-is-the-revolution-alex-gladstein [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Bitcoin Is the Revolution': An Interview With Alex Gladstein - CoinDesk [22:54] alextee I'm more mad at linus for letting them do this [22:55] techrights-bot/fn Well, #bitcoin has resulted in a lot of unnecessary waste and churn. Burn. https://www.eenews.net/stories/1063735681 [22:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ELECTRICITY: Bitcoin is changing U.S. coal, renewables -- Thursday, June 24, 2021 -- www.eenews.net [22:55] schestowitz alextee: many foundations are [22:55] psymin Is medicine tech enough to be on topic here? :D [22:55] schestowitz but they don't present themselves like it [22:55] schestowitz and they control the media [22:55] schestowitz so it takes a lot of effort to confront their narratives [22:55] schestowitz psymin: probably [22:56] schestowitz alextee: write to linus, he'll read it [22:56] schestowitz won't reply, but will read [22:56] alextee developers and free software enthusiasts are immune to propaganda thankfully. their plan didn't work with RMS [22:57] schestowitz nope, that backfired badly [22:57] alextee hmm maybe I should write to him [22:57] schestowitz even though the media would tell you otherwise [22:57] schestowitz still does [22:57] schestowitz even bruce byfield days ago [22:57] psymin The emerging data regarding ivermectin seems surprisingly compelling. [22:57] schestowitz and they pushed defamatory claims [22:57] schestowitz ivermectin? [22:57] schestowitz alextee: don't ask him to reply [22:58] psymin https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/ [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-covid19criticalcare.com | Ivermectin in COVID-19 | FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance [22:58] schestowitz just give him something to think about [22:58] alextee yeah [22:58] schestowitz I look forward to things they can do AFTER you contract covid-19 [22:59] schestowitz seeing how widely it spreads here in spite of the AZ mass vaccination, we need a plan B [22:59] schestowitz and I read today they plan to have Wembley half full. insane! [22:59] schestowitz maybe another "genius boris" plan ● Jun 24 [23:00] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.78 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 47.68 swarm size (avg): 304.17 [23:00] psymin Dr Pierre Kory helped set some current standard of care practices for COVID regarding steroid treatment. He strongly advocates for the early use of ivermectin. [23:00] psymin I'm hopeful, since it is an old drug and not under patent. [23:01] psymin (I'm fully vaxxed, I'm not anti-vax or any of that) [23:01] techrights-bot/fn We have a dumb Pry Minister who thinks that contracting #covid19 somehow makes him an expert rather than a total idiot who was so careless that it nearly killed him. BRITISH MEDIA SHOULD STOP QUOTING THAT MADMAN. Crackpot lunatic with false predictions... all the time. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/22/lock-down-again/ [23:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Tories Are Lying and You Should Consider Going Into Lock-down Again (Irrespective of What the Government Says) [23:03] techrights-bot/fn A lot of 'articles' about #bitcoin feel like a "pump and dump" scheme by people who stand to gain from its adoption because they invested their money in this thing and thus aren't objective. They're stakeholders. Part of a 'news' trend... [23:03] *psymin nods. [23:03] techrights-bot/fn Conflating health issues with race will only distract from the #science https://medcitynews.com/2021/06/eight-examples-of-humanism-in-action-during-covid-19-and-the-global-racial-reckoning/ [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medcitynews.com | Eight examples of humanism in action during COVID-19 and the global racial reckoning - MedCity News [23:04] schestowitz psymin: I heard about some developments in treatment [23:04] schestowitz maybe by the time that we get it, if ever, treatment will be simpler and faster [23:05] psymin It sounds like, if 70% of the unvaxinated population took a dose of ivermectin a week for four weeks, the pandemic would end. [23:06] psymin but it is still useful after catching the virus as well [23:06] MinceR 24 235907 <~schestowitz> seeing how widely it spreads here in spite of the AZ mass vaccination, we need a plan B [23:06] psydroid schestowitz, is that similar to Microsoft's announcement that Vista 10 is now installed on 1.3 billion computers? [23:06] MinceR what fraction of the population got fully vaccinated over there? [23:06] psymin Yep, we need a plan B and C and D, preferably ones that don't cost 3 billion dollars, but it is acceptable. [23:07] psymin MinceR, in the US maybe 46%? [23:08] MinceR that's far from enough to significantly reduce spread [23:08] MinceR but i meant in the UK [23:09] psydroid with the release of Vista 11 Microsoft can be sure that there will be hundreds of millions of computers running GNU/Linux over the next decade [23:09] MinceR or just systemd/Linux, which is getting ever closer to windows [23:10] psydroid yes [23:11] psymin It kinda sounds like companies that have existing drugs almost ready for market aren't to fond of ivermectin. [23:11] psymin There is a bunch of FUD. But if we focus on the past usage cases of it, like for parasites, the signal about its safety becomes clear. [23:12] psymin I'm a bit excited about it, sorry :) [23:14] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hncmzin3a2a7g.irc) has joined #techrights [23:14] schestowitz DaemonFC: some microsofters read your blog post [23:14] schestowitz and share it [23:16] schestowitz MinceR: states at top of https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ ) [23:16] schestowitz I think we might stray off topic though [23:16] schestowitz let's talk about other viruses :-) [23:16] schestowitz like Microsoft [23:17] schestowitz psymin: I know nothing about ivermectin, never heard of it before, cannot comment [23:17] schestowitz let's get back on topic [23:17] psymin hehe [23:17] schestowitz rianne knows, since last years, I'd never do articles/videos on vaccinations [23:17] schestowitz because I don't understand them [23:17] schestowitz I do cover surveillance aspects of it [23:17] schestowitz but that's it [23:18] schestowitz Linus is very angry at the cranks [23:18] DaemonFC Ivermectin is for parasite infections, like scabies or something. [23:18] schestowitz but it's easy because they're on the far edge of the spectrum [23:18] DaemonFC It's just the latest on the list of drugs that they pitch as "Coronavirus cures they don't want you to know about.". It furthers the conspiracies. [23:19] schestowitz Boris and Bill... going on TV with white coats [23:19] schestowitz like they're experts or something [23:19] schestowitz at least stfu [23:19] DaemonFC Like any government wanted to be permanently crippled by years of tax revenue losses. [23:19] MinceR yeah, afaik that's not enough for herd immunity either, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's still spreading widely [23:19] DaemonFC The only thing that keeps the government running is the amount of energy they get to suck out of the productive economy. [23:19] DaemonFC It's parasitic loss. [23:19] alextee LOL liberachat just killed itself [23:19] MinceR (also, how difficult can it be to provide an internet connection that doesn't go down for 2 minutes every day?) [23:19] alextee i'm the only person in some channels [23:19] schestowitz maybe it's time to let the economy slow down [23:20] MinceR alextee: are you on mercury? [23:20] alextee strontium [23:20] DaemonFC The federal government just keeps authorizing a lot of things that don't work very well, some of which haven't been revisited in decades or even hundreds of years. [23:20] MinceR i guess a hub died or something [23:20] DaemonFC Why do it when you can always steal more from your subjects? [23:21] MinceR why indeed [23:21] schestowitz [23:20] alextee: are you on mercury? [23:21] schestowitz that sounds... wrong [23:21] schestowitz I had to look up the context [23:21] schestowitz to realise it was not an insult [23:21] alextee XD [23:22] DaemonFC https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/06/24/introducing-windows-11/ [23:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.windows.com | Introducing Windows 11 | Windows Experience Blog [23:22] MinceR lol [23:22] schestowitz vapourware [23:22] DaemonFC "The web was born and grew up on Windows." [23:22] DaemonFC Revisionism. [23:22] schestowitz MOAR vapour! [23:22] schestowitz quick, shows off imaginary products [23:22] schestowitz stall the news [23:22] schestowitz Warren quits Gates Foundation [23:22] schestowitz Microsoft wrote the "GAFA" memos [23:22] schestowitz let's change the subject! [23:23] schestowitz The Web was made on SOlaris [23:23] schestowitz The Web was destroyed by Windows [23:23] schestowitz which bundled in it, illegally, an attack on the Web [23:23] schestowitz anyway, they just lie and troll [23:23] DaemonFC schestowitz, Windows 10 S Mode is dead. [23:24] DaemonFC Microsoft says that you can't even update to Windows 11 without unlocking the device from S Mode. [23:24] DaemonFC They've given up on S Mode. [23:25] immibis "To increase security, it allows only apps from the Microsoft Store, and requires Microsoft Edge for safe browsing." [23:25] MinceR ass mode [23:25] immibis hahahaha what is this bullshit [23:26] immibis that's basically apple [23:26] techrights-bot/fn "sed is a stream editor. A stream editor is used to perform basic text transformations on an input stream (a file or input from a pipeline). The most common usage of sed involves substituting a pattern or string for another string." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EACe7aiGczw [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Learning Sed Is Beneficial For Linux Users - YouTube [23:26] immibis surprised microsoft is willing to give up apple levels of control over users' devices [23:26] MinceR 25 002218 < DaemonFC> "The web was born and grew up on Windows." [23:26] MinceR lol [23:26] MinceR another thing microshit learned from crApple: lying about what was done where first [23:27] techrights-bot/fn Why blame "Linux" for malware that has nothing to do with it and people need to foolishly install? https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/24/pling_linux_flaws/ [23:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | You won't want that Linux bling if it comes from Pling: Marketplace platform has critical vulnerabilities The Register [23:28] immibis literally nobody thinks linux is bling [23:28] techrights-bot/fn #Xfce subscribes to Gulag Summer of Work https://alexxcons.github.io/2021/06/23/xfce-participates-in-gsoc.html #google #labour #camp #xfce4 [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alexxcons.github.io | Xfce participation in GSoC 2021 [23:30] techrights-bot/fn Mary Jo Foley helps #microsoft googlebomb everything to distract from new scandals, blunders, losses. #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [23:31] DaemonFC surprised microsoft is willing to give up apple levels of control over users' devices [23:31] DaemonFC They loosened it basically. [23:31] techrights-bot/fn Of course the TOP of the "LINUX" page in #zdnet right now is just #windows and #microsoft spam. Because, you know, bloody ZDNet! http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [23:31] DaemonFC They unlocked all of those "special" APIs that were hiding behind a store nobody published in. [23:32] DaemonFC Now they say they'll let third party payment systems into apps, which will be a security disaster considering what kind of shit was in the Windows 10 store. [23:32] DaemonFC Probably pester people more if they try installing something locally. [23:32] immibis you can tell it was nefarious because they wouldn't tell you what the letter S stood for [23:33] MinceR :> [23:35] techrights-bot/fn #linuxdotcom latest stories, number of views: 12 views, 116 views (after 2 days!), 133 views... #linuxfoundation basically KILLED what USED to be a very valuable and informative site. There's nothing of value left in it! [23:36] schestowitz immibis: Windows Sugar? [23:37] schestowitz Sugar-coated? [23:37] schestowitz Sugar-coated sugar? [23:37] *psydroid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:38] techrights-bot/fn #RedHat shares roadmaps for #OpenShift Application Services https://channeldailynews.com/news/red-hat-shares-roadmaps-for-openshift-application-services/74307 OpenShift often referred to as OpenShit [23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-channeldailynews.com | Red Hat shares roadmaps for OpenShift Application Services | Channel Daily News [23:39] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:40] techrights-bot/fn So many buzzwords in IT Pro https://www.itprotoday.com/edge-computing/automakers-race-iot-and-manufacturing-edge #itprotoday = buzzwords pro today... [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | Automakers Race to the IoT and Manufacturing Edge | IT Pro [23:44] techrights-bot/fn #openwashing pattern: push your #proprietarySoftware by piggybacking some actual #freesw and "open" things, e.g. #openstack https://www.wfmz.com/news/ap/ap-business/kioxia-kumoscale-software-v3-18-delivers-support-for-openstack-infrastructure-wallaby-release/article_2efd4cf0-48a9-5a1d-92cc-d3c818044eff.html [23:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KIOXIA KumoScale Software v3.18 Delivers Support for OpenStack Infrastructure Wallaby Release | Associated Press | wfmz.com [23:45] techrights-bot/fn Donald Biden https://qz.com/2023128/after-trumps-ban-failed-biden-gives-tiktok-a-second-look/ see http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/microsoft-layoffs-secrecy/ [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | After Trump's ban failed, Biden gives TikTok a second look. Quartz [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Lays Off Many More Workers in the Advertising Division/s and Terminates Products While the Press is Distracted by TikTok Rumours | Techrights [23:46] techrights-bot/fn #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152654 #GNU #Linux [23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:47] techrights-bot/fn Producing #hydrogen using less #energy https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/06/210622123226.htm [23:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Producing hydrogen using less energy: International research team describes complete reaction path for electrocatalytic hydrogen generation -- ScienceDaily [23:49] techrights-bot/fn #ReputationLaundering for thieves, criminals and tax evaders like #billgates https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/jamsetji-tata-tops-global-list-of-philanthropists-made-donations-worth-102-bn see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | Jamsetji Tata tops global list of philanthropists; made donations worth $102 bn [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [23:49] MinceR i think it has more to do with Shit [23:50] MinceR then again, that's a bit redundant [23:50] MinceR since all versions of windows are shit [23:50] psymin I liked 3.1 [23:51] techrights-bot/fn #openwashing using foundations https://www.ftfnews.com/time-to-learn-more-about-open-source/29520 #ftfnews [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ftfnews.com | Time to Learn More About Open Source? | FTF News [23:52] techrights-bot/fn #Gazettextra now reposts #billgates puff pieces that are funded by #gatesfoundation e.g. by #seattletimes ... the extent of the #BRIBERY is just INCREDIBLE https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | Journalisms Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review [23:53] techrights-bot/fn #Stanford researchers develop new #freesoftware for designing sustainable cities | EurekAlert! Science News https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-06/su-srd061721.php #eurekalert #freesw [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurekalert.org | Stanford researchers develop new software for designing sustainable cities | EurekAlert! Science News [23:54] techrights-bot/fn #nytimes does #reputationlaundering for tax evaders who disguise their EVASION as 'charity' https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/business/dealbook/buffett-philanthropy-taxes.html even criminals like #billgates https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Buffett Weighs In on Tax-Free Philanthropy - The New York Times [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [23:54] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:54] *alextee (~alextee@p5ururacf4pq4.irc) has joined #techrights [23:55] techrights-bot/fn #JakartaEE 9.1 and the Road to Jakarta EE 10 https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/06/jakarta-ee-9-1/ #infoq #java #programming [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Jakarta EE 9.1 and the Road to Jakarta EE 10 [23:56] techrights-bot/fn We need to call out all the #gatesfoundation -bribed publishers that at the moment attempt to defend #billgates without disclosing they're ON HIS PAYROLL. https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php [23:56] MinceR i liked it too at some point, because i didn't know better [23:58] techrights-bot/fn Why #Python is Best for AI, ML, and Deep Learning - RTInsights https://www.rtinsights.com/why-python-is-best-for-ai-ml-and-deep-learning/ #rtinsights | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/24/#latest [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Python is Best for AI, ML, and Deep Learning - RTInsights [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:58] techrights-bot/fn Why are #uk ships even there?! https://sg.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-says-russian-shots-british-121843240.html [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sg.news.yahoo.com | Ukraine says Russian shots at British ship show 'aggressive' Russian policy