●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 24, 2022 ●● ● Jul 24 [00:00] schestowitz[TR2] of course years later he deleted all his dents one by one [00:00] schestowitz[TR2] not wanting to be "cancelled" himself [00:00] schestowitz[TR2] I can no longer rermember what rubbed people the wrong way [00:00] schestowitz[TR2] but it was over a decade ago [00:01] matey stallman: god doesnt exist [00:01] matey kuhn: i do too! [00:01] schestowitz[TR2] fan, too! [00:01] schestowitz[TR2] *fan too [00:01] schestowitz[TR2] >funtoo [00:02] matey wantoo funtoo, doncha wantoo [00:02] matey why are you on a funtoo kick this week [00:02] matey did you notice shuttleworth resigned from debian 2 days ago? [00:03] matey and i learned what "emeritus" means [00:03] matey though it probably should have been more obvious [00:03] TR News Nala - A Feature-rich Commandline Frontend For APT Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167571 [00:03] TR Bot Nala - A Feature-rich Commandline Frontend For APT | Tux Machines [00:03] matey emeritus = everyone worth anything at the fsf, if they retain that even [00:04] matey the fsf is mostly people who can still vote but arent there anymore [00:04] matey i think even mjg can still vote there [00:04] matey funnier still if kuhn can [00:04] matey that would be fucking hilarious [00:05] matey "mr kuhn every year you say lets get merge the fsf UNDER sfc and every year, we tell you know" [00:05] matey "but i voted!" [00:05] matey "yes but so did we" [00:05] matey "but mine should count more" [00:05] TR News Tidal-hifi: Stream Music from Tidal on Linux System - TREND OCEANS https://trendoceans.com/tidal-hifi-player-linux/ Source: trendoceans | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//trendoceans.com/tidal-hifi-player-linux/ [00:05] TR Bot Tidal-hifi: Stream Music from Tidal on Linux System - TREND OCEANS [00:06] matey "and you wonder why we voted against" [00:06] matey for every person who gets a vote at sfc [00:07] matey kuhn gets to vote twice [00:07] TR News Q4OS 4.9 OFFICIAL announcement likely tomorrow in the site, but technically it's out already [00:07] matey he runs the free software industry (yes its an oxymoron) like trump ran the usa [00:08] matey with a similar level of entitlement [00:08] matey and a similiar level of empathy and sense of equity [00:08] TR News "In my last post I told how Tobias helped me get cacheSpaceHierarchy() function working as expected. The fix was easy. That doesn't mean I'll take half a minute to code and commit." https://snehit.dev/posts/kde/gsoc-22/be-careful-with-signal-slots/ [00:08] TR Bot Be Careful With Signal Slots - GSoC'22 post #9 [00:08] matey similiar <- freudian slip [00:08] TR News "Following a similar sprint two month ago, we had another small KDE Eco meeting in Berlin a week ago. Joseph will probably write a more comprehensive summary like last time, here are just some of the things I looked at and/or worked on." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/07/23/kde-eco-sprint-july-2022.html [00:08] TR Bot KDE Eco Sprint July 2022 [00:09] TR News Limine Installer version 1.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167572 [00:09] TR Bot Limine Installer version 1.0 | Tux Machines [00:11] matey when phipps gets older, he will look even more like palpatine [00:11] matey then the relationship between he and his younger apprentice will that much more obvious [00:11] matey "but im not open source!" [00:12] matey "my dear boy, when do you think you will command the dark side of the force, if you do not lie?" [00:12] TR News Apache Beam users detail stream data processing applications https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatamanagement/news/252523046/Apache-Beam-users-detail-stream-data-processing-applications Source: techtarget | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.techtarget.com/searchdatamanagement/news/252523046/Apache-Beam-users-detail-stream-data-processing-applications [00:12] TR Bot Apache Beam users detail stream data processing applications [00:14] TR News 7 Myths About Linux That You Should Stop Believing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167573 [00:14] TR Bot 7 Myths About Linux That You Should Stop Believing | Tux Machines [00:15] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:16] TR News Window 10 EOL In 2025: Year Of The Linux Desktop? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XQcg2jXgV7A | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/XQcg2jXgV7A [00:16] TR Bot Window 10 EOL In 2025: Year Of The Linux Desktop? - Invidious [00:17] TR News Merge branch 'for-5.20/amd-sfh' into for-next https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/hid/hid.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=92f419de687a35f62e44ec9a26caa61bc3071bf7 [00:17] TR Bot kernel/git/hid/hid.git - HID Group's fork of hid.git [00:17] TR News Just to upset Doktor Sixel https://www.phoronix.com/news/HarfBuzz-5.0-Released [00:17] TR Bot 5.0 Released With Progress On Supporting The "Boring Expansion" Font Spec - Phoronix [00:18] TR News Porting a Tiling Window Manager Extenstion to C++ (Bismuth): Part-1 :: Kushashwa Ravi Shrimali (Kush) Learning never stops! https://krshrimali.github.io/posts/2022/07/porting-a-tiling-window-manager-extenstion-to-c-bismuth-part-1/ Source: krshrimali [00:18] TR Bot Porting a Tiling Window Manager Extenstion to C++ (Bismuth): Part-1 :: Kushashwa Ravi Shrimali (Kush) Learning never stops! [00:19] TR News Xinerama becomes hard requirement of KWin - Vlad Zahorodniis Blog https://blog.vladzahorodnii.com/2022/07/23/xinerama-becomes-hard-requirement-of-kwin/ Source: vladzahorodnii | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.vladzahorodnii.com/2022/07/23/xinerama-becomes-hard-requirement-of-kwin/ [00:19] TR Bot Xinerama becomes hard requirement of KWin Vlad Zahorodnii's Blog [00:21] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167574 [00:21] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:21] DaemonFC SeaTab-X-2 was re-licensed from a non-commercial use license to the MPL 2. [00:23] TR News KDE Development: Xinerama, Bismuth, KDE Eco Sprint, and GSoC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167575 [00:23] TR Bot KDE Development: Xinerama, Bismuth, KDE Eco Sprint, and GSoC | Tux Machines [00:25] TR News "T2 SDE is not just a regular Linux distribution," reads the announcement. "It is a flexible Open Source System Development Environment or Distribution Build Kit (others might even name it Meta Distribution). T2 allows the creation of custom distributions with state of the art technology" https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/07/23/0514203/t2-sde-linux-226-released---and-an-ai-bot-contributed-more-revisions-than-humans [00:25] TR Bot T2 SDE Linux 22.6 Released - and an AI Bot Contributed More Revisions Than Humans - Slashdot [00:26] TR News Want to help make Rolling better? https://forum.openmandriva.org/t/want-to-help-make-rolling-better/4526 [00:26] TR Bot Want to help make Rolling better? - Support - OMA forum [00:26] TR News "While at GUADEC I finished a small script which uses the GitLab API to estimate the resource use of a project on GitLab. It looks at the CI pipeline job durations and artifact storage for the project and its forks over a given period, and totals things." https://tecnocode.co.uk/2022/07/23/looking-at-project-resource-use-and-ci-pipelines-in-gitlab/ [00:26] TR Bot Looking at project resource use and CI pipelines in GitLab | Philip Withnall [00:27] TR News Integrated Inconsistencies. | Saif [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2022/07/integrated-inconsistencies.html Source: perl | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2022/07/integrated-inconsistencies.html [00:27] TR Bot Inconsistencies. | Saif [blogs.perl.org] [00:28] TR News Planet Grep now running PtLink https://grep.be/blog//en/computer/Planet_Grep_now_running_PtLink/ Source: grep | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//grep.be/blog//en/computer/Planet_Grep_now_running_PtLink/ [00:28] TR Bot Planet Grep now running PtLink [00:28] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [00:29] TR News "In my previous blog post, I mentioned using the GtkListView for the templates submenu. But, after a few discussions with my mentor @antoniof, we decided to use the GtkListBox to create the custom widget for the new documents creation feature" https://utkarsh2401.blogspot.com/2022/07/gsoc-2022-second-update.html [00:29] TR Bot GSOC 2022: Second Update [00:29] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@m6g9eirgk498q.irc) has joined #techrights [00:30] TR News Toolbx bypassing the immutability of OCI containers | Debarshis den https://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2022/07/22/toolbx-bypassing-the-immutability-of-oci-containers/ Source: debarshiray | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//debarshiray.wordpress.com/2022/07/22/toolbx-bypassing-the-immutability-of-oci-containers/ [00:30] TR Bot Toolbx bypassing the immutability of OCI containers | Debarshi's den [00:30] TR News SUSE pushing containers as a vehicle for proprietary software and vendor lock-in https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-manages-amazon-eks-hybrid-landscape/ [00:31] TR Bot Rancher Manager EKS Hybrid Landscape | SUSE Communities [00:34] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [00:38] britney I won't watch movies or tv shows unless the script is creative commons [00:38] schestowitz[TR2] makes sens [00:38] schestowitz[TR2] but just CC? [00:38] schestowitz[TR2] not public domain? [00:38] schestowitz[TR2] IA has plenty of very old films [00:38] matey i tried to promote only cc licensed stuff [00:38] schestowitz[TR2] public domain [00:38] britney public domain works too [00:39] matey and only the subset of cc thats free [00:39] matey by-sa, by, cc0 [00:39] matey most things are nc [00:39] matey or nd [00:40] matey and nc-nd is basically "all rights reserved but we wont sue for downloading" [00:40] matey stallman of course, says that its different for software [00:40] britney stallman can't be trusted because he drinks pepsi [00:40] matey i get what hes saying-- usa copyright didnt even consider software copyrightable until 1980 [00:40] britney stallman should be drinking opencola [00:41] matey his reasons for drinking pepsi is coca cola murders workers [00:41] matey he probably wont drink opencola because of the name :) [00:41] britney https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_(drink) [00:41] TR Bot OpenCola (drink) - Wikipedia [00:41] matey /me wont drink ubuntu cola because shuttleworth is an idiot [00:41] matey even though theres no actual connection! [00:42] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1550981776012607491 I saw this and I wondered: what did he say this time? [00:42] matey so what did he say [00:42] XRevan86 Apparently, this: https://r.nf/r/chomsky/comments/w5yv6b [00:42] britney matey, but you run openbsd [00:42] XRevan86 Seems like he learnt nothing about Russia in the passing months. [00:42] matey /me figures its either putin or kuhn [00:42] TR News Videos: Vista 10, Kaisen Linux 2.1, and Packaging Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167576 [00:42] matey britney: yeah because openbsd is more free than freebsd [00:43] matey and i mean 4 freedoms and more [00:43] matey free drivers [00:43] matey (not free firmware, thats why hyperbola exists) [00:43] britney matey, i finally got xfce working in openbsd via gnome boxes (qemu) [00:43] matey cool [00:43] matey how [00:44] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:44] britney i used xenodm and added startxfce4 to my .xsession [00:44] matey oh ok [00:44] matey why gnome boxes over qemu? [00:44] matey i mean why not just qemu [00:44] TR News Steam Deck: The Ratio of Verified Titles is Falling. Whats Happening? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167577 [00:44] britney gnome boxes is easy [00:45] matey sure, but theyll just kill it in a few years [00:45] matey theyre worse than google [00:45] matey (google plus, google wave, google-- everything else they got rid of) [00:45] matey (google done be evil...) [00:45] britney ill worry about it in a few years [00:45] matey fair enough [00:46] britney if they kill it, ill use libvirtd [00:46] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [00:46] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [00:46] XRevan86 matey: GNOME Boxes seems like it's here to stay. [00:47] XRevan86 I don't think they'll drop it. [00:49] TR News Benchmarks: Ubuntu 22.04 on x86, Intel Linux Driver Patch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167578 Source: tuxmachines [00:49] TR Bot Benchmarks: Ubuntu 22.04 on x86, Intel Linux Driver Patch | Tux Machines [00:50] matey I don't think they'll drop it. <- if the soviet union fell, gnome too will fall [00:50] XRevan86 matey: Everything eventually will. [00:50] matey /me cant even the tell the difference anymore [00:50] MinceR shaka, when the walls fell [00:50] britney i don't think gnome is going anywhere [00:50] matey libvirt: red hat/oftc (ew) [00:51] XRevan86 The year is 2258. IRC and GNOME are still going. [00:51] matey thats a terrible thing to do to babylon 5 [00:51] XRevan86 Humanity perished, computing went sentient. [00:52] XRevan86 Heated debates are ongoing about whether the term "HIG" really cuts it when no human is around. [00:52] matey if gnome is still around in 2258, im coming back to put an end to it [00:52] *techrights_guest|54 (~5d4caa2d@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:52] matey i dont know how, but ill think of something [00:54] matey if possible ill bring stallman too [00:54] britney https://github.com/lethal-guitar/RigelEngine <--Duke Nukem 2 for linux [00:54] TR Bot - lethal-guitar/RigelEngine: A modern re-implementation of the classic DOS game Duke Nukem II [00:55] britney sorry matey, u can't play Duke Nukem 2 [00:55] britney its on github [00:55] matey itlab [00:55] matey libvirtd is on gitlab [00:56] matey at least libvirt is [00:56] britney oh cool [00:56] matey libvirrd will probably become systemd-libvirtd [00:56] britney LOL [00:56] matey i cant think of any reason why they wouldnt [00:56] matey maybe an "init system" needs to spawn other operating systems [00:57] matey docker needs systemd. systemd doesnt need docker. [00:58] *techrights_guest|54 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [00:59] matey yo dawg, we herd you like emus ● Jul 24 [01:02] MinceR 24 015502 < britney> sorry matey, u can't play Duke Nukem 2 [01:02] MinceR you can run it in dosbox [01:04] britney you could but that would be the proprietary version [01:04] britney RigelEngine is free software [01:05] britney supports widescreen too [01:06] britney is avoiding proprietary software worth downloading from github? thats the question [01:08] britney http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167559 [01:08] TR Bot Games: Duke Nukem II on OpenPOWER, The Humble Deck Builder Bundle, and More | Tux Machines [01:08] britney I found out about Duke 2 by visiting Roy's tuxmachines article [01:14] britney DaemonFC, there is a pidgin plugin called 'purple-facebook' that lets you use pidgin with facebook messenger [01:15] DaemonFC Yep [01:15] britney im reading your article about SeaMonkey and you say you had problems with facebook [01:21] britney i started using purple-discord and now im not wasting over 300mb ram on a chat program [01:21] *phanes has quit (connection closed) [01:24] britney matey, what do you use to edit text? [01:26] TR News Links 23/07/2022: GNU Datamash 1.8, Gemipedia Supports All Languages Now | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/gnu-datamash-1-8/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/gnu-datamash-1-8/ [01:26] TR Bot Links 23/07/2022: GNU Datamash 1.8, Gemipedia Supports All Languages Now | Techrights [01:27] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D301.jpg [01:28] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D652.jpg [01:28] matey i have my own text editor [01:28] matey its also a shell [01:28] schestowitz[TR2] i have that installed too :-) [01:29] schestowitz[TR2] maybe old version [01:29] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167580 [01:29] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:29] TR News Apache Beam users detail stream data processing applications Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167581 [01:29] TR Bot Apache Beam users detail stream data processing applications | Tux Machines [01:29] TR News Devices: Arduino, Fairphone, and x86 Alternative to Raspberry Pi 4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167582 [01:29] TR Bot Devices: Arduino, Fairphone, and x86 Alternative to Raspberry Pi 4 | Tux Machines [01:29] TR News Distributions: OpenMandriva Rolling, T2 SDE Linux 22.6, Zorin OS Editions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167583 [01:29] TR Bot Distributions: OpenMandriva Rolling, T2 SDE Linux 22.6, Zorin OS Editions | Tux Machines [01:35] TR News The final epo part about the leaks to be released shortly. [01:36] TR News Planning to record video around 3am about the latest epo series. background at http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO [01:36] TR Bot EPO - Techrights [01:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:50] *DaemonFC_ (~chatzilla@y2wamz4q2vne6.irc) has joined #techrights [01:51] DaemonFC_ Oh for Christ's sake [01:51] *DaemonFC_ has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [01:51] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@y2wamz4q2vne6.irc) has joined #techrights [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 24 [02:02] DaemonFC https://files.illinoispolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Pump-in-Champaign-scaled.jpg [02:18] TR News Series ETA 20 mins. The final epo part... a call for emergency re swpats in Europe :/ [02:25] TR News The EPO Bubble Part XII The Shape of Things to Come? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/epo-shape-of-things-to-come/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/epo-shape-of-things-to-come/ [02:25] TR Bot The EPO Bubble Part XII The Shape of Things to Come? | Techrights [02:36] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-230722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-230722.txt [02:36] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 23, 2022 [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[02:48] TR News 207: SCaLE 19x, RISC-V Laptop, Unreal Engine 5, Asahi Linux, System76 and more Linux news! https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-207/ [02:48] TR Bot SCaLE 19x, RISC-V Laptop, Unreal Engine 5, Asahi Linux, System76 and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [02:51] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [02:53] TR News The crooks who have taken/cemented control of Europes largest patent office (and Europes second-largest institution) have placed managers without any background in computing in charge of software patenting, based solely on intent to violate the European Patent Convention (EPC) and fake growth with bogus patents that harm Europe http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/epo-shape-of-things-to-come/ [02:53] TR News Is this the way to run a patent office? http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/meme-albert-said/ [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 24 [03:05] *phanes (~phanes@vdaaabp6wfeza.irc) has joined #techrights [03:05] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 246963 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41838 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 months 27 days ago [03:06] matey o/ [03:06] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 9.7 MB TotalOut: 1.8 MB [03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:09] phanes https://youtu.be/ln7Vn_WKkWU [03:09] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=ln7Vn_WKkWU [03:09] IPFS QmNocWiFPVNdoZoPJy1s4vZQryq4BWRJMou5WsNScHuuMt [03:09] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:09] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | Stuck In The Middle With You - Invidious [03:10] matey you said it [03:11] phanes i need to convince my dog he's not being abandoned every time i give him outside time [03:13] matey rescue dog? [03:13] phanes no he's just attached and spoiled [03:13] phanes i raised this one from a pup [03:13] phanes at like 6 weeks [03:13] matey maybe get him an iphone so he can text you [03:14] phanes so he's never been more than like 5 feet away from me for more than a day at a time [03:14] matey or just set up him up on irc you wont hear from him for days except when he wants to eat or go outside [03:15] phanes im never getting another dog until i get a fenced plot of land [03:15] matey good thinking [03:16] matey i dont suppose theyll let you build one [03:17] phanes https://youtu.be/PH0K6ojmGZA [03:17] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=PH0K6ojmGZA [03:17] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald - Invidious [03:22] matey just so you know, you came when its totally dead [03:22] matey gnumoon thought i was crazy for that even being a concept with me [03:22] matey but while some people scrollback, others prefer when its live [03:23] matey theres a possibility of more people after an hour or two [03:23] matey technically theres a possibility at any time [03:24] matey i just post whenever i have something to say. it doesnt even matter if it gets read [03:40] schestowitz[TR2] I'm still awake [03:40] schestowitz[TR2] just recorded a very long video [03:41] phanes do you write out a list of talking points and topics beforehand? [03:41] schestowitz[TR2] no [03:41] phanes i know [03:41] schestowitz[TR2] only after [03:42] phanes you should consider doing it beforehand [03:42] bnchs matey: imagine a dog on IRC [03:42] schestowitz[TR2] it ruins the video, it makes it seem scripted [03:42] phanes and then having the list where you can see it during the video [03:42] bnchs creepy [03:42] bnchs but cool at the same time [03:42] matey matey: imagine a dog on IRC <- consider an evolutionary timeframe [03:42] schestowitz[TR2] on irc, nobody knows you're a dog until you bark [03:43] *schestowitz[TR2] barks [03:43] matey if dogs were dexterous and intelligent enough, they could use irc [03:43] phanes its all fun and games until someone spells w-a-l-k [03:43] matey the only problem is that sniffing peoples butts (let alone humping legs) surely violates the code of conduct [03:43] matey but thats not an issue here [03:44] bnchs virtual hugging is bad [03:44] matey i mean the code of conduct part [03:44] phanes matey, nah most dogs have been neutered or spayed [03:44] bnchs but what about virtual sniffing peoples butts [03:44] matey so far theres been no butt sniffing here [03:44] bnchs or virtual humping legs? [03:44] phanes with great sacrifice comes great reward [03:45] matey whats the great reward? im not against spaying and neutering but from the dogs perspective, whats in it for them [03:45] phanes matey, none, its cruel and inhumane [03:45] MinceR 24 044319 < matey> if dogs were dexterous and intelligent enough, they could use irc [03:45] MinceR and they wouldn't be dogs :> [03:45] TR News A Child's View of Noise gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202207/20220723-a-childs-view-of-noise.gmi [03:45] matey if we are still apes [03:45] phanes luigi gets to keep his nuggets [03:45] matey they could still be dogs [03:46] matey maybe not canis vulgaris [03:46] matey canis sapiens [03:46] MinceR canis anticanis [03:47] matey this coming from homo anti-homo [03:47] matey mincer is homo(sapiens)phobic [03:47] schestowitz[TR2] self-hating [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] afaik he's a sapien [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] heterosapien [03:48] matey oh hes more sapien than average imo [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR ia slso dogphobic [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] he hates dogs [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] iirc, he did put a dog meme/photo a few days ago [03:48] matey maybe he just thinks they shouldnt be bred [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] but forgot when or what [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] he loves fox though [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] foxophile [03:49] matey not firefox [03:49] schestowitz[TR2] it's man-made [03:49] matey i believe he said all dog breeding is animal cruelty [03:49] schestowitz[TR2] bred [03:49] schestowitz[TR2] and many dogs suffer [03:49] schestowitz[TR2] chronic issues, due to bad breeding [03:49] matey just the act of breeding wolves into-- whatever the fuck that thing in a purse is [03:49] matey its a tough stance to argue with really [03:49] schestowitz[TR2] I have a friend who complained about his small doh [03:49] schestowitz[TR2] *dog [03:50] phanes black labs are good dogs [03:50] schestowitz[TR2] and how it's cruel to breed these [03:50] phanes wolves do not make good pets [03:50] matey phanes: let me be sure about this [03:50] matey if you get a wolf as a pup, raise it like a dog [03:50] matey and live on a very large property in the middle of nowhere [03:50] phanes matey, it'll eventually eat you or maim you [03:50] matey putting aside legal issues [03:51] matey that was basically my question [03:51] schestowitz[TR2] https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2c2a719b-cb3b-4848-b9aa-9fa7fe0adf1a_582x828.jpeg [03:51] matey what a nice-looking url [03:51] schestowitz[TR2] https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5823140f-3855-4d84-990c-b263b178189f_840x833.jpeg [03:52] matey the thing i dont understand is [03:52] schestowitz[TR2] https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda02992b-ddab-4f9c-b20c-51b40a66b79d_505x600.jpeg [03:52] matey if wolves will eventually eat you or maim you [03:52] matey how / why did we domesticate them in the first place [03:53] TR News Just admit QA was right - Tech Reflect https://techreflect.net/2022/07/just-admit-qa-was-right/ Source: techreflect | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//techreflect.net/2022/07/just-admit-qa-was-right/ [03:53] TR Bot Just admit QA was right - Tech Reflect [03:54] matey i presume we went on hunts with them, or vice versa [03:54] phanes matey, they can be trained and tames with some degree of violence if taken as a pup [03:54] phanes yes [03:54] matey but isnt that a bit stupid [03:54] phanes they wouldve been useful on hunts like that [03:55] phanes it wouldve taken hundreds of thousands of years of artificial selection for tameness [03:55] schestowitz[TR2] phanes: dogs depend on you [03:55] matey sure sure [03:55] schestowitz[TR2] more than you depend on them [03:55] matey but thats thousands of years of getting your arms and legs torn off [03:55] schestowitz[TR2] cats are even worse in that regard [03:55] schestowitz[TR2] but cats don't need to be walked out [03:55] matey youd think we would have learned better in that time and left them alone [03:56] matey i guess what im getting at is [03:56] matey what did we do then that we couldnt do now [03:56] matey and i dont figure there are books (from the time period) about it [03:56] phanes matey, humans until the last 200 years or so were vicious and brutally violent, even more so a few thousand years back [03:56] schestowitz[TR2] if you want to kill (people), get a wolf [03:56] matey but maybe someone has figured it out based on... archeological clues and shit [03:57] schestowitz[TR2] if you want to kill (time), get a wolfenstein [03:57] schestowitz[TR2] I was addicted to that game [03:57] schestowitz[TR2] the internet versions [03:57] MinceR persumably there were some wolves that were more tolerant of humans to begin with [03:57] matey /me never thought germans would play wolfenstein, but sure i guess [03:57] MinceR or young that have lost their family [03:57] MinceR as for cats depending on you, that depends on the cat [03:58] matey cats dont really depend on you [03:58] MinceR but afaik they're generally more wild than any other domestic animal [03:58] schestowitz[TR2] wolves that arer vicious to human and sheep don't survive long [03:58] matey they let you think it [03:58] phanes the only reason your cat doesn't eat you is because it thinks you're a bigger, stronger, dumber cat [03:58] schestowitz[TR2] horned animals that are nonviolent are even bred by humans [03:58] schestowitz[TR2] like cows [03:58] schestowitz[TR2] humans exterminated snakes here [03:58] schestowitz[TR2] we can coexist with geese and ducks though [03:58] phanes man [03:58] phanes fuck geese [03:58] matey geese will break your fucking arm [03:58] MinceR no thanks [03:58] phanes geese are arseholes [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 190.53 [03:59] matey /me got mugged by geese once [03:59] matey they took my wallet and gave me a black eye ● Jul 24 [04:00] schestowitz[TR2] depends non the breed [04:00] schestowitz[TR2] and whether they have eggs and goslings around [04:00] matey /me waits for a goose in a purse [04:00] schestowitz[TR2] Toulouse geese are a big scary [04:00] schestowitz[TR2] *bit [04:00] schestowitz[TR2] and big [04:01] schestowitz[TR2] their 'voice' is also a bit scary [04:01] schestowitz[TR2] don't f* with them [04:01] matey their 'voice' is also a bit scary <- obviously inspired henry ford [04:01] schestowitz[TR2] they make good pets here though [04:01] schestowitz[TR2] matey: casting for deepthroat? [04:01] matey i was thinking of the noise that the model t makes, but thanks for asking [04:08] MinceR lol [04:15] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, July 23, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:15] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:15] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:15] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:43] TR News "Python is indeed a very demanding and easy language in which everyone wants to grow his/her career. It has also been the most used language with a percentage of 48.24% globally." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-become-a-python-developer/ [04:43] TR Bot How to Become a Python Developer? - GeeksforGeeks [04:44] TR News Best Books to learn Tensorflow | R-bloggers https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/best-books-to-learn-tensorflow/ Source: r-ers | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/best-books-to-learn-tensorflow/ [04:44] TR Bot Books to learn Tensorflow | R-bloggers [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [04:59] matey stallmans biggest mistake ever was actually hurd [04:59] schestowitz[TR2] not talking at microsoft? ● Jul 24 [05:00] matey nope [05:00] matey that was probably a big mistake too [05:00] matey hurd wasnt a bad idea for a project [05:00] matey it was a terrible idea for gnus FIRST kernel [05:00] matey in hindsight obviously, gnu should have had a run-of-the-mill kernel, like linux [05:01] matey but not actually linux [05:01] matey rather one that gnu could work with [05:01] matey by choosing a design that was far too complex to build in a sort of arms race with open source [05:01] matey which stallman did not see linux as [05:01] schestowitz[TR2] i think media interferences played a role... bear with me [05:02] matey but linux WAS resisted within gnu for as long as possible [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] in how linux turned out [05:02] matey media always plays a role, you dont have to convince me [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] and became a weapon against gnu [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] and the movem,ent [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] so one way or another they'd try controlled opposition tactics [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] sooner or later [05:02] matey open source played a bigger role [05:02] matey and used the media [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] like they did antiwar activist [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] linus also was propped up by media [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] and torvalds played along [05:02] matey linus was a co-opter. linux was a counterrevolution [05:03] matey if stallman knew anything about the industry (and he should, he created the movement to stand against its tactics) [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] linux will never be "anything professional like gnu" [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] it'll be zemlinware [05:03] matey he should have realised linux was bound to be weaponised [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] badgeware [05:03] matey yeah but that false modesty from linus became moot as soon as it was publically traded [05:03] matey he stole an os [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] maybe the media would have called it kdeOS [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] and pretend that gnu was jus "some compiler" [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] for kde [05:03] matey kde is even less of an os than linux though [05:04] matey linux at least, is a core part of an os [05:04] matey kde is iceing [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] systeeeeeeeeeemDOS [05:04] matey (at least compared to the linux kernel) [05:04] matey maybe kde is the smaller tier on a wedding cake [05:04] matey but whatever it is, the kernel is pretty key to an os [05:05] matey hurd was a GREAT idea for SECOND kernel [05:05] matey but by doing that first, they left gnu wide open for the usurpers [05:05] matey im not saying that he should have foreseen all of that [05:06] matey but at some point, he maybe should have foreseen some of it [05:06] matey it created such a rift for such a long time [05:06] matey he thought he could fix that with an olive branch [05:06] matey that was naive [05:06] matey im not saying hes dumb-- weve ALL been that naive before [05:06] matey it was still naive [05:07] matey olive branches. with corporations. do. not. work. [05:07] matey once linux became corporate, gnu/linux was Doomed. [05:07] matey its been corporate for a long time [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] true [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] but wasitttt [05:07] matey further proof he doesnt get this is signing over [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] btw [05:07] matey you go ahead [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] the multi char thing [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] not iontentional [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] terrible network lag [05:08] matey what multu char thing [05:08] schestowitz[TR2] and I use synergy [05:08] matey oh that [05:08] schestowitz[TR2] how do we tackle this issue? [05:08] matey lol, i thought it was for effect [05:08] schestowitz[TR2] and go back to grassroots? [05:08] matey but waiiiiit [05:08] schestowitz[TR2] even debian seems more compromised than ever now [05:08] schestowitz[TR2] run by lawyers [05:08] schestowitz[TR2] and corporations that muzzle critics [05:08] matey i mean you can do what you want. only grassroots will ever be controlled by users. [05:08] matey only. grassroots. [05:08] matey homemade software [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] yeah, but... [05:09] matey OUR OWN FORKS of corporate shit, at worse [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] we need more momentum in ttthe ggggrassroots [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] for real encryption [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] anddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd not centralisaition llllllllllllllllllllllike LF... here we go agaaaaaaaaain.... network issueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees [05:09] matey thats trippy [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] I'll typeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee from my lllllocal machine [05:09] matey its like youre typing in hyperspace [05:09] schestowitz until the connection is stable [05:10] schestowitz it keeps sending the same signal many times [05:10] schestowitz happened for a little while yesterday [05:10] schestowitz not a software bug, network latency [05:10] matey it would be more annoying if it were verticle [05:10] matey vertical [05:11] matey horizontally im unphased [05:11] schestowitz anyway, back on topic [05:11] schestowitz so arhc seems community [05:11] schestowitz but it is also tried to SPI [05:11] schestowitz which sponsors the dirty greedy lawyers [05:11] matey linux is the same problem for arch it is for gnu [05:11] matey in the short run they can work around it [05:12] matey but really, stallman seems to never think of things like [05:12] matey oh, these problems can just be moved from software to hardware [05:12] schestowitz btw, the nwtwork is further dsloed down because of rsync [05:12] matey hese problems can just be moved from userspace to kernel [05:12] schestowitz uploading the next video [05:12] matey hes a we will cross that bridge when we get to it kind of guy [05:12] matey but the problem is, we are there [05:12] matey we are at the bridge [05:12] schestowitz yes, I mentioned patents moving from software to embedded [05:13] schestowitz and how that bypasses rules [05:13] schestowitz some patents on "virtualisation" [05:13] matey thats a reasonable point to make [05:13] matey but the fsf isnt equipped to do that [05:13] matey they focus on software [05:13] matey that made sense once [05:13] schestowitz they focus on fundraising trbh [05:13] matey no shit [05:13] schestowitz without doing much discernable activity this year [05:14] matey oh they handed over a lot of things to the coup [05:14] schestowitz *discernible [05:14] matey so there was that activity [05:14] matey the fingerprints of the coup are all over everything [05:14] matey those people have never used soap, at least on their hands [05:14] schestowitz Zoe did an interview with ICBM recently [05:14] schestowitz a site called OpenSource.com [05:14] matey oh god [05:14] matey oh ffs [05:14] schestowitz FSF ED, in ICBM [05:14] schestowitz Red Hatr [05:15] schestowitz the same company that boycotts RMS [05:15] schestowitz the founder of her employer [05:15] matey /me grows more arms to facepalm properly [05:15] schestowitz under the name "Open Source" [05:15] matey maybe zoe will go work for sfc [05:15] schestowitz created to destroy the rela movement [05:15] matey im not saying shes as bad as "them" [05:15] matey im just saying, wtf [05:15] matey she seems innocent enough [05:15] matey not stupid... but... what, i dont know [05:15] matey i really dont [05:15] schestowitz[TR2] https://opensource.com/article/22/7/meet-fsf-executive-director-zoe-kooyman [05:16] TR Bot Free Software Foundation Executive Director Zo Kooyman | Opensource.com [05:16] matey christ on a stick [05:16] schestowitz[TR2] she is conformist enough for them [05:16] matey ibm is taking over both debian and fsf [05:16] matey they alread have gnu by the... gnuts [05:16] matey Its Basically Microsoft [05:16] schestowitz[TR2] me rewrites Meet Free Software Foundation Executive Director Zo Kooyman | Opensource.com [05:17] matey i consider the fsf only technically not fraud [05:17] schestowitz[TR2] as Meet Veterans for Peace chief Dick Cheney | Fox News [05:17] matey im sure for legal purposes theyre doing whatever they have to [05:17] matey its a scam [05:18] matey i knew some people from veterans for peace [05:18] matey nothing makes people against war like actually seeing it for themselves [05:18] schestowitz[TR2] and Fox is owned by those who both for invansionb [05:18] schestowitz[TR2] like ICBM invading FSF [05:18] schestowitz[TR2] and GCC etc. [05:19] matey stallman talks about handcuffs [05:19] matey he thinks its about handcuffs or no handcuffs [05:19] matey but he doesnt talk about escape much-- in practical terms [05:19] matey he doesnt talk about how software gets trapped (except by js and java) [05:19] matey and even if he does, he misses too much [05:20] matey these were invalid critiques once [05:20] matey old critiques-- unfair ones [05:20] matey not unfair anymore [05:20] matey the ship went down [05:20] TR News When Europes Largest Patent Office is Governed by Lawyers, Bankers, and Career-Climbing Opportunists Who Violate the European Patent Convention (EPC) for Them | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/unsuitably-qualified-epo-management/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/23/unsuitably-qualified-epo-management/ [05:20] TR Bot When Europes Largest Patent Office is Governed by Lawyers, Bankers, and Career-Climbing Opportunists Who Violate the European Patent Convention (EPC) for Them | Techrights [05:20] matey granted, I Blame Mutiny [05:20] matey and microsoft [05:20] matey but where the fuck is the captains log? [05:21] matey (or his first and second mates) [05:21] schestowitz[TR2] under the ICBM [05:21] schestowitz[TR2] in the sub [05:21] matey i guess [05:21] phanes nobody who knows what war looks like wants war [05:21] phanes except for lunatics [05:21] matey unless there are no other options [05:21] matey sometimes there are no other options. USUALLY there are other optinos [05:21] schestowitz[TR2] there are usually alternaitves [05:21] matey most wars are bullshit [05:21] schestowitz[TR2] maybe not immediately [05:21] matey altnernatives that dont work [05:21] phanes yeah but even when there's not another option, nobody sane and informed -wants- it [05:21] matey do what you want, if you get invaded, fight like hell. [05:22] schestowitz[TR2] Calling Putin Hitler to Smear Diplomacy https://fair.org/slider/calling-putin-hitler-to-smear-diplomacy-as-appeasement/ | Source: FAIR [05:22] TR Bot Calling Putin 'Hitler' to Smear Diplomacy as 'Appeasement' - FAIR [05:22] phanes it is only after a war has begun that the informed and sane should learn to enjoy it [05:22] matey even when there's not another option, nobody sane and informed -wants- it <- fair point [05:22] phanes avoid it all costs [05:22] phanes but [05:22] phanes if you find yourself in one [05:22] phanes find a way to like it [05:22] matey sure [05:24] matey big software projects are the easiest ones to take over [05:24] matey they requires LOTS of care and feeding-- more than most people can manage [05:24] matey something big corporations are well equipped to "help" with [05:24] matey thats what happened-- everything got purchased [05:24] matey with services [05:25] matey same as what happneed to little software companies: microsoft just buys them and kills them [05:25] matey stallman never understood microsoft [05:25] matey underestimated them [05:25] matey even downplayed the threat-- at a time when it didnt look as stupid as it does now [05:26] matey i blame the thieves of course [05:26] matey but the fsf didnt even lock their doors [05:26] matey they trusted a giant corporation (red hat) with the crown jewels [05:26] matey that was so stupid [05:26] matey a corporation can be bought! he knows that [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] underestimated them [05:26] schestowitz[TR2] what year? [05:27] matey trusting a corporation with a ceo you trust-- [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] to be fair, in 1983 they were still a new company [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] like 8 years [05:27] matey with hosting gcc [05:27] matey 93 you mean [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] and without much momentttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttum [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] going back to main PC [05:27] schestowitz what year was the ICBM-Microsoft deal? [05:27] matey trusting a corporation with a ceo you trust-- with something as key as gcc [05:27] matey is like trusting a government with a PRESIDENT you trust-- with something like mass surveillance [05:28] matey it doesnt matter if the president is okay [05:28] phanes did roy just have a max headroom moment [05:28] matey sooner or later there will be one who isnt [05:28] matey dont trust a for-profit with the crown jewels of a non-profit! [05:28] matey and i dont know when red hat took over this [05:28] matey years ago to be sure [05:29] matey but i didnt find out until one of my associates discovered it [05:29] schestowitz phanes: repeat keystroke is a network issue [05:29] schestowitz typing into that PC over LAN [05:29] schestowitz wireless Lan [05:29] matey bettterrrrrr wirelessssss than thisssssssss [05:29] matey its like parceltongue [05:30] schestowitz usually it works OK [05:30] matey im sure [05:30] schestowitz maybe I should restart synergy just to be sure [05:30] matey /me wonders how synergy even adds characters to the stream [05:30] schestowitz[TR2] still laggy [05:30] matey like whats the mechanism? udp? [05:30] matey tcp packets shouldnt do that [05:31] matey is it a network based kvm or something? [05:31] matey with udp packets for transmission [05:32] schestowitz[TR2] kuiserver takes up 350 mb of ram [05:32] matey you could filter all double characters but then --wireless becomes -wireles [05:33] matey Synergy - Share one mouse & keyboard across computers [05:34] matey Synergy works with anything from 2 computers, to 3 PCs and Macs, to as many as 15 devices of all types. macOS Windows Linux Raspberry Pi Effortless [05:34] schestowitz[TR2] Barrier is better [05:34] schestowitz[TR2] but some distros still use old synergy [05:34] schestowitz[TR2] I use both in tandem [05:35] schestowitz[TR2] ram wasted here, had to terminate some orphaned processes [05:35] schestowitz[TR2] noticed that in kde ksysguard (now renamed) [05:35] schestowitz[TR2] they mention systemd by name [05:35] schestowitz[TR2] foir finding parent processes [05:35] matey "synergy works reliably with no lag" [05:35] matey they mean as a requirement, not as an effect :) [05:36] matey if you have no lag, it works reliably [05:36] matey if you have lag, sssssstrrrraapppp innnnnnnn [05:37] matey stallman did not design things to make it easy for them to escape once captured by monopolies [05:37] phanes i gave up on relying on an out of boix desktop environment [05:37] matey he focused a license that he thought made it so companies couldnt monopolise the software [05:37] phanes mine is mostly i3 with pieces of other DEs ive mixed in and tied together [05:37] matey but he never thought about organisations monopolising development [05:38] matey or corporations infiltrating those organisations (the fsf included) [05:38] matey so now we have exactly that [05:38] phanes he'll adapt [05:38] matey he hasnt, he wont [05:38] matey hes not even at the helm [05:38] matey exiled in place [05:39] matey they even made him his own little lieplanet [05:39] matey as the separate but equal planet [05:40] phanes huh? [05:40] matey two lieplanets [05:40] matey libre - br = lie [05:40] matey the first one, no stallman [05:40] matey the second one, stallman only [05:40] matey both said, unless im wrong "welcome to libreplanet" [05:40] matey two different dates [05:41] matey this was after people complained that he wasnt on the schedule to talk at the "real" one [05:41] matey and the organisers were a complete set of dicks about it [05:41] matey this year, 2022 [05:41] matey two lieplanets-- one for stallman, one for everyone else [05:42] phanes do you have any links to their statements about this [05:42] matey one for coc-suckers, one for aspie troublemakers [05:42] matey separate but equal [05:42] matey the fun never ends with the free software fuckery [05:43] matey fucktory [05:44] matey if your ship is boarded, and you have a fleet, and you cant stop them from boarding [05:44] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:44] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [05:44] matey you can hit self destruct and move to another ship [05:44] matey fsf cant [05:45] phanes no link, no interest [05:45] matey i just tell the story. if you want a link, ask [05:45] phanes do you have any links to their statements about this [05:46] matey no interest, no problem [05:46] matey bad enough when people feign interest. when they really dont have it, at least theyre honest [05:49] matey noticed that in kde ksysguard (now renamed) | they mention systemd by name | foir finding parent processes [05:49] matey thats a shame [05:49] matey systemd is a monopoly [05:50] matey people who want freedom should really use something else [05:50] matey kde is open source though [05:50] matey so fake freedom [05:51] DaemonFC https://www.privoxy.org/announce.txt [05:51] matey The KDE Community [05:51] matey An international team developing and distributing Open Source software. [05:51] DaemonFC Opera is contributing a lot of security patches to Privoxy. [05:51] matey front page [05:51] matey they do say "KDE supports the FEEP and BE4FOSS programs to help free and open source communities produce more environmentally friendly software." [05:52] matey developing and distributing Open Source softwar <- giant print [05:52] matey " supports the FEEP and BE4FOSS programs to help free and open source communities" <- print you scroll past [05:52] matey kde is definitely open source [05:52] DaemonFC I have a Cyberpunk 2077 update from GOG I downloaded a while back that I haven't even played. [05:52] DaemonFC The game was so buggy I tried to play it and just couldn't then got bored. [05:53] DaemonFC Apparently, the QA was a lesson in how not to do QA. [05:53] DaemonFC They told the paid beta testers that they had a "quota" of bugs to report, so the development team got snowed under with unimportant bugs that were hardly worth fixing and did not effectively prioritize. [05:54] *lightbringer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:54] DaemonFC Bug triage is like medical triage. You help the most serious cases and fix those first. The people who will live go to the back of the line in order of most severe to least. [05:54] DaemonFC Well, that's how triage is supposed to work anyway. [05:55] matey bad times ahead [05:55] matey 2022/01/26 Ayush Singh will be working on a Rust wrapper for KConfig. With this wrapper, and the existing ones for qmetaobject and ki18n, it will be easier to develop KDE applications in Rust. [05:55] DaemonFC In Chicago, the hospitals are overwhelmed with homeless during the winter and they see people in a FIFO buffer unless you're like...shot or something. [05:55] matey rusty kde and the dirty sanchez [05:57] DaemonFC I'm told the Japanese actually like Rahm Emanuel. [05:57] DaemonFC Maybe they can just...keep him, after Biden's term ends. [05:57] matey TUXEDO Computers, a company known for selling Linux-powered computers and notebooks, now joins us as a KDE Patron! [05:57] *lightbringer (~mincer@95x2wqtssxtyu.irc) has joined #techrights [05:57] matey linux powered [05:58] matey The KDE community makes a vast array of apps which get shipped in Linux distros, on Linux app stores, for Windows and Mac and for Android too. [05:58] matey Brand new this week is the first stable release of MyGnuHealth. [05:59] matey gnuhealth. for linux distros! [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [05:59] matey mylinuxhealth [05:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights ● Jul 24 [06:00] matey /me is looking for something, wont find it [06:00] matey kde has no fucking leader. [06:00] matey anarky [06:01] phanes https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/controversial/Reichwein,%20Sarah%20Michelle/Todd_v_Reichweinn/2019-17-13_Wilcox/ [06:01] TR Bot TAODB [06:03] matey im now curious [06:03] matey as mjg is going to bring it up anyway [06:04] matey whether his fiancees new name is legally changed to that-- and if so, why you prefer to use the old one and put their name in "quotes" [06:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [06:04] matey i can understand some arguments for using both names [06:05] phanes matey, the nearest i can tell, reichwein has not actually legally changed her name and is using the the deadname claim to avoid fallout from having the real legal name used in publications [06:05] matey thats the sort of answer i was looking for, cheer [06:05] matey cheers [06:06] matey in some places-- i think new hampshire is one, not as sure about mass [06:06] matey you can do business under any name you want as long as its not used for fraud [06:06] phanes if its a social situation, i dont mind calling anyone by even a preferred nickname as long as its not vulgar ("lovecruft" may meet that tbh) but its not insurmountable. if its a publication meant to expose something the legal name is required, so, if i see documentation showing that it was legallu changed i will update to whatever is apparently the legal name [06:06] matey i think in most places its actually more complicated than that [06:07] DaemonFC "- Make documentation slightly less "offensive" for some people [06:07] DaemonFC by avoiding the word "hell"." [06:07] DaemonFC LOL [06:07] matey first definition when searching for cruft [06:07] matey Cruft is a jargon word for anything that is left over, redundant and getting in the way. It is used particularly for defective, superseded, useless, superfluous, or dysfunctional elements in computer software History. [06:08] phanes the cruft of love implies ejaculate [06:08] DaemonFC What about the word "hell" is offensive? [06:08] matey yeah if you interpret love as sex (lovin spoonful) [06:08] phanes DaemonFC, idk man, people invent new ways to be offended every day [06:09] matey plenty of examples of that exist [06:09] matey Referring to any extraneous matter, either physical or ideological. First used in describing the portions of a grain that cannot be utilized for any particular purpose <- urban dict [06:09] matey a less raunchy interpretation (im not saying yours is less realistic) would be [06:09] matey to speculate [06:09] matey "overlooked or rejected" for love [06:09] matey sort of a torch song [06:10] matey i wont pretend i can guess which one they had in mind [06:10] DaemonFC phanesmatey, the nearest i can tell, reichwein has not actually legally changed her name and is using the the deadname claim to avoid fallout from having the real legal name used in publications [06:10] DaemonFC It's a good angle, though. [06:10] phanes in any case, i dont care what this person's name is, i care about the truth and actions of this person [06:10] matey and im not suggesting you have to [06:10] DaemonFC If you can't call them anything that they have to take responsibility for somehow. [06:10] matey i care about the truth and actions of this person <- that is clearly the focus of the page [06:10] matey thanks for humouring me nonetheless [06:10] DaemonFC I can go by a different name every day of the year. [06:11] matey as i said, its bound to come up [06:11] DaemonFC That's even better. [06:11] DaemonFC That way you're deadnaming me if you ever talk about me. [06:11] matey its annoying to deal with mjgs side of the story when its the only one volunteered [06:11] phanes im sure it will come up again, ive been very clear to anyone who asks about what i'd need to clarify the name. [06:11] phanes the legal name is what they get [06:11] DaemonFC If you want someone to refer to you by anything other than what's on your driver's license, you really need to go to court and change it. [06:12] DaemonFC (Going by your middle name is fine as long as you initialize your first name on signatures and customarily do this.) [06:12] phanes mj has already tried to paint it as anti-trans microaggression, but, when he makes a stink about that, it will only feed into his mo publicly [06:13] *forkbombe has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:13] DaemonFC It's not improper to call someone by their legal name when you are referring to them. [06:13] matey i think it depends on the situation, which is why i ask about the situation [06:13] DaemonFC My aunt's ex-husband, Keith, never legally changed his name. [06:13] matey by the way, do you know if this trip was related to a free (or open) software event, and if so which one [06:14] matey ive seen the name bryce wilcox before, maybe a debian person, but not a signer. [06:14] matey at least not of the letter [06:14] DaemonFC If something is not so important in your life that you can't go down to court and pay $10 to have it changed, then why can you complain about deadnaming? [06:14] DaemonFC *can [06:14] DaemonFC I can go change my name tomorrow, legally, for $10. [06:15] DaemonFC You can file the petition yourself. It's one form. [06:16] DaemonFC The judge only asks if your new name is spelled correctly and that you want to go through with it. In general, I think you can't make it something deliberately obscene. [06:16] matey Bryce "Zooko" Wilcox, a cypherpunk known for creating cryptocurrency Zcash, told Forbes that he wanted the privacy-oriented coin to move away from the proof of work (PoW) consensus mechanism. Wilcox believes that Zcash has to undergo an Ethereum-like transition to proof of stake (PoS). [06:18] DaemonFC It's unbelievable how much code there was in SeaMonkey to deal with NPAPI plug-ins. I don't recall there being that much in Webkit. [06:18] matey it looks like wilcox is supporting peter todd [06:19] matey i must have read pocock telling of this or something [06:19] matey i dont know where else i would have read this before, but ive read it somewhere [06:19] phanes wilcox was most certainly not there to support peter todd [06:20] matey then the legalese is tripping me [06:20] matey "supportive motion" "defamation case" peter todd [06:20] matey ive been told (even by a lawyer) that id make a good lawyer, but i have my doubts [06:21] matey fortunately its not a career im pursuing [06:21] matey the part about the switching seats is awfully familiar, i know i read this one months / year ago [06:22] matey maybe it was discussed in irc [06:23] matey A says that S told A that Z had made aggressive and inappropriate sexual statements in front of others about S after being rejected by S [06:23] matey thats always a dick move if it happened [06:23] phanes yeah definitely sounds like sexual harassment to me [06:23] phanes want to be clear that i dont think that todd is not a dirtbag [06:24] matey i dont know anything about him except this story [06:24] matey and something something cryptocurrency [06:24] matey https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/gilbert-gottfried-my-bob-saget-murderer-joke-is-not-a-true-story/ [06:24] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/gilbert-gottfried-my-bob-saget-murderer-joke-is-not-a-true-story/ ) [06:25] matey Bob Saget raped and killed a girl 1990 Right so basically one of my favourite jokes is the title obviously not norm but gottfried. I was watching the Bob saget roast and saw comments outraged about why they were laughing and that he's a pedophile. [06:25] phanes wow so apparently appelbaum made some appearances in this and actually submitted some testimony in support of todd's position in this case [06:25] matey i swear we talked about that the other day [06:26] phanes maybe [06:26] matey or maybe you werent here-- i thought you were [06:26] phanes im still ingesting all this content, it is a lot to go over [06:26] matey i know the feeling, truly [06:27] phanes its the fairest i can be given that mj is my primary marketing relay [06:27] matey marketing? [06:28] matey you mean he sells the website [06:28] phanes yeah i had him post links to the wikipedia edits all over twitter for weeks before setting up the site and relay from my ip to the AO site [06:28] phanes no he doesn't sell it, he markets it [06:28] phanes so after he got ben white to repost it by request, it went from a 30k person audience to a 400k person audience [06:29] phanes *ken white [06:29] matey good lord [06:29] phanes yeah it was awesome [06:29] phanes he is super pissed about it too [06:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:30] phanes "stepping on every rake in sight with abandon" [06:31] matey wait wait wait [06:31] matey is the case actually called [06:31] matey Todd_v_Reichweinn [06:31] phanes I see references to both a Todd v. Lovecrutft as well as a Todd v. Reichwein [06:31] matey ok [06:31] matey i mean [06:31] matey its an argument to use their legal name if thats the name of the case [06:32] phanes i am using their legal name [06:32] matey i get that part [06:32] phanes https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/14868600/todd-v-lovecruft/ [06:32] TR Bot v. Lovecruft, 4:19-cv-01751 CourtListener.com [06:33] phanes that one says lovecruft but all the court docs say reichwein [06:33] matey right [06:34] DaemonFC https://www.newsweek.com/monkeypox-vaccine-priority-gay-community-1726851 [06:34] TR Bot Monkeypox Vaccine Should Be Given to Gay Community First, Experts Say [06:34] DaemonFC I'm good. I don't need it. [06:35] matey was todd ever convicted of rape? [06:35] matey i ask because i suppose part of the defamation lawsuit was about a tweet that called him a rapist [06:35] matey im not implying that you need to win a court case to call someone a rapist-- particularly by someone who raped you [06:36] DaemonFC Another news article today was talking about 18 gay men with MonkeyPox, and most of them where complete hoebags. One of them was a University professor or something that took a trip to Europe and admitted that he was fucking random men all throughout like 7 countries. Then went to a bathhouse in Germany and said "Gee, I don't think they were wiping down that sex sling.". [06:36] phanes matey, no there weren't even charges [06:36] DaemonFC If you're not the village bicycle, there's like almost no chance of getting MonkeyPox. [06:37] matey this happened with cuba gooding jr too [06:37] matey who for all i know is guilty [06:37] matey but the attorney was saying how these things play out back and forth [06:37] matey nobody wins these things, everybody loses [06:38] phanes this was a defamation case that Todd initiated against reichwein [06:38] phanes for claiming that he was a rapist [06:38] matey yeah the todd is first in todd v [06:38] matey so its his [06:39] phanes i had to update the url on that [06:39] phanes there was a typo in the date [06:40] matey Settled. Material terms of settlement placed on the record. [06:40] matey do you know what the terms of settlement were [06:40] phanes yeah [06:41] phanes originally i thought it was thrown out for anti-slapp and mjg did not correct when discussing it [06:41] phanes and he said that it was thrown out because it was protected speech [06:41] matey i read that closely [06:41] phanes but what actually happened was it was settled in exchange for reichwein posting as lovecruft to state that she was never raped by him [06:42] phanes in terms of todd's statements on it, he claims that the process was expensive and was costing too much money, he was running out of money litigating the case and was open to settling to make it stop [06:42] matey wow [06:42] matey so it was both "thrown out" and "settled" [06:43] matey somehow [06:43] phanes no it was settled [06:43] phanes mjg was just lying [06:43] matey i got it [06:43] phanes whether by omission or directly, i'll let him argue that into an empty grocery bag [06:44] matey im interested in the rebuttal [06:44] phanes "something something, im the real victim here" [06:44] matey i doubt he would say that [06:44] phanes not in those exact words [06:45] phanes but he'll say it without saying it [06:46] phanes '''Defendant Sarah Michelle Reichwein (Defendant), who goes by the [06:46] phanes fictitious name Isis Agora Lovecruft, is a self-described anarchist; hacker; once-upon-atime theoretical physicist. Like Todd, Defendant regularly attends cryptography [06:46] phanes conferences.''' [06:46] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [06:46] matey what are you quoting [06:46] phanes the original filing for the case [06:46] matey oh because todd wrote the wording [06:47] phanes this is a statement from rosenfield (todd's attorney) [06:47] matey hi britney [06:47] phanes new word: domiciliary [06:48] phanes what a great word [06:48] britney hey matey [06:48] matey of or related to the home? [06:48] phanes https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Adomiciliary&oq=define%3Adomiciliary&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.1425j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 [06:48] TR Bot - Google Search [06:48] matey Domiciliary Care for Homeless Veterans Program - VA Homeless Programs [06:48] matey www.va.gov/homeless/dchv.asp [06:49] matey /me shrugs [06:49] matey Domiciliary care is care that is provided in the person's own home. Sometimes called "care at home" or "home care", domiciliary care is when a carer either visits you or lives in your own home, in order to be close at hand to support you. Domiciliary care can be appropriate if you require help with practical tasks or personal care but don't want to move to a care home. [06:49] matey they used to just say home healthcare [06:50] matey domiciliary just sounds more expensive, no wonder they switched [06:50] matey "well, we do offer home healthcare, but for 500 dollars more per month, we also have a domiciliary care programme" [06:50] matey "we want that one!" [06:51] matey "the home healthcare one sounds cheap" [06:51] matey they may have slightly different meanings-- i dont think they do however [06:51] matey Domiciliary administration means the settlement and distribution of a decedent's estate in the state where the defendant was domiciled at death. [06:52] matey its used for all kinds of contexts [06:52] matey "housecalls" [06:52] matey even with opthamalogy [06:53] matey for example, if you were that guy that weighed 600 lbs [06:53] matey and you needed glasses [06:53] matey they might bring the eye doctor to you [06:55] matey at least one website confirms its the same damned thing as "home care" [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [06:59] matey britney, where do you consider yourself on the political spectrum-- this is not an important question and you should ignore it if it pleases you [06:59] DaemonFC I'm writing an article about MonkeyPox. [06:59] DaemonFC And why I won't be getting the vaccine. ● Jul 24 [07:03] phanes "because I don't want to" should be a good enough reason tbh [07:04] phanes i was required to when they did the federal mandate [07:06] *phanes puts on his G-man sunglasses and trims his G-man mustache so he'll look good in his G-man suit. [07:07] phanes artist's depiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Stark#/media/File:Howard_Stark_(Earth-616)_from_S.H.I.E.L.D._Vol_1_1_page_03.jpg [07:07] TR Bot Howard Stark - Wikipedia [07:08] *matey has quit (connection closed) [07:09] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:09] *matey (~matey@8t6nkj9zyvpnk.irc) has joined #techrights [07:17] phanes man this gets weirder the more i read it [07:17] matey howso [07:18] matey https://www.abuseonline.org/database/backlog/resources/ahahah.mp3 [07:21] DaemonFC Yeah, I don't feel I should need to explain myself to the doctor. [07:21] DaemonFC Mandy will probably just come out and say "They gave me a shot." I'll say, "Why?". "Oh they said I needed one.". [07:21] DaemonFC They get money for giving out shots, so everyone gets lots of shots. [07:22] DaemonFC The Health Department is very patriarchal and condescending to their patients. They don't inform you of your right to decline "treatments" and they don't respect it if you assert yourself. [07:22] DaemonFC They know if you had enough money, you would just go see a real doctor at an office with their name on the wall. [07:24] DaemonFC I don't mean "literally controlled by men". [07:24] DaemonFC What I mean is there's this "father knows best" mentality and "father" is the state. [07:24] DaemonFC That's how Illinois is in general. It's the nanny state. [07:35] phanes https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/controversial/Reichwein,%20Sarah%20Michelle/Todd_v_Reichweinn/2019-04-03_Rosenfeld/ [07:35] TR Bot TAODB [07:42] DaemonFC I'm also working on a post about how bad the new Red Baron pizzas are. [07:43] DaemonFC They used to be really good. [07:44] phanes mjg59_, who is Sarah Filley? [07:45] mjg59_ matey: Of 4 claims Todd made, 3 were thrown out for being protected speech (including the claim that he was a rapist), and the remaining claim was partially thrown out [07:45] phanes "partially thrown out" [07:45] phanes anyway, can you use the last of your credibility to explain who sarah filley is [07:46] mjg59_ phanes: If you'd prefer "partially dismissed", you can say that instead [07:47] phanes mjg59_, so no comment on sarah filley? these are opportunities for discretion so you might want to take advantage of them [07:47] mjg59_ I'm not familiar with the name [07:47] phanes ok [07:47] phanes "partially dismissed" [07:47] phanes moving on [07:50] matey matey: Of 4 claims Todd made, 3 were thrown out for being protected speech (including the claim that he was a rapist), and the remaining claim was partially thrown out <- noted mjg [07:50] matey thats a pretty good rebuttal, better than i anticipated [07:53] mjg59_ https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.340308/gov.uscourts.cand.340308.53.0.pdf is the relevant order [07:53] mjg59_ "For the foregoing reasons, Lovecrufts motion to strike is granted as to all four Statements [07:53] mjg59_ to the extent they implicate Lovecrufts accusations that Todd engaged in sexual misconduct against [07:53] mjg59_ someone other than Lovecruft, and as to the Second Statement to the extent it involves Lovecrufts [07:53] mjg59_ personal accusation against Todd. The motion is denied as to Lovecrufts personal accusation [07:53] mjg59_ against Todd in the Fourth Statement" [07:53] phanes matey, also bear in mind what he's referring to is an anti-slapp measure that bypasses contest of material facts of the case and establishes a likelihood for perseverance if it went to trial, so "partially dismissed" is a pretty misleading descriptor there [07:54] DaemonFC https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.washingtonpost.com%252Fbusiness%252F2022%252F07%252F22%252Fhyundai-child-labor-alabama%252F [07:54] TR Bot Gemini Portal [07:54] DaemonFC Hyundai and KIA found working children as young as 12 in their factories in Alabama. [07:57] matey i DID feel mislead. a little more than usual. [07:57] matey i do think he has a damned good rebuttal [07:57] matey when this happens to columbo [07:57] matey who i dont model myself after btw [07:57] matey rather i take cues from everyone i like [07:58] matey including columbo [07:58] phanes yeah its clever, he is going to shift the litmus to judicial determinations in the case instead of the pattern of behaviour [07:58] matey he just nods his head and walks off to think about it [07:58] matey and thats what i do too [07:58] matey in my experience, when i am dealing with ANY liar [07:58] matey i find time to myself to be more reliable than hypervigilance [07:59] matey the latter just makes you jumpy. sometimes jumpy is useful-- its just as often not [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [07:59] matey point being: these things take a bit of time to sort out [07:59] phanes yep [07:59] matey first impressions: damned good rebuttal [07:59] matey later on: who knows ● Jul 24 [08:00] matey the low points for me were the stallman letter-- which ive spent years looking into (its a bunch of crap) [08:00] matey and the tso entry, which i find extremely disapppointing, but not terribly surprising [08:00] phanes only happened like a year ago bub [08:00] matey the tso entry really gets me [08:00] phanes yeah i haven't even started much on the tso entry [08:00] phanes it looks painful [08:00] matey i should be clearer about the stallman letter [08:00] matey its a big part of the coup [08:01] matey the coup has gone on for longer [08:01] matey apart from that it feels like years, some of the claims in it ARE years old actually [08:01] matey and on top of that theres a heatwave thats been robbing me of sleep this week [08:01] matey not too much-- just enough [08:01] matey so yeah, wait until august to get the stone tablets out [08:03] phanes theyre not stone tables they're bricks, and my name might be Montresor [08:03] phanes *tablets [08:03] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [08:05] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fm-po_FUmvM [08:05] TR Bot Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 (Official Audio) - Invidious [08:07] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mDTph7mer3I [08:07] TR Bot Leonard Cohen - Anthem - Invidious [08:07] mjg59_ Also, https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.340308/gov.uscourts.cand.340308.31.1.pdf is the testimony that Todd raped someone (not merely sexually harassed them) [08:08] phanes we'll get to that when it's up in the queue [08:09] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:14] TR News Top Data Structures That Every Programmer Must Know https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/top-data-structures-that-every-programmer-must-know/ [08:14] TR Bot Top Data Structures That Every Programmer Must Know - GeeksforGeeks [08:14] phanes oh looks like there was some attempt to evade service [08:15] matey evade service? [08:15] matey oh [08:15] matey military [08:16] phanes no service of process [08:16] matey dont know what that is [08:16] TR News The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 135: Co-Chair Emily Laidlaw on the Work of the Governments Expert Advisory Group on Online Safety - Michael Geist https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/law-bytes-podcast-episode-135/ Source: michaelgeist | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/law-bytes-podcast-episode-135/ [08:16] phanes there's a time limit to serve the defendant in a trial [08:16] TR Bot The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 135: Co-Chair Emily Laidlaw on the Work of the Government's Expert Advisory Group on Online Safety - Michael Geist [08:16] matey oh that [08:16] matey and so they avoided it possibly [08:16] phanes what some folks do to try to get out of being sued is bounce around and obfuscate service address and ways of being found [08:17] matey right [08:17] phanes nothing says credible quite like constant action to avoid a material contest [08:18] TR News LOL, "I engaged in a Twitter debate with Matthew Gray" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/why-the-governments-policy-intentions-for-bill-c-11-dont-trump-the-actual-text/ Twitter is NOT a debate platform!! [08:18] TR Bot Why The Government's "Policy Intentions" For Bill C-11 Don't Trump the Actual Text - Michael Geist [08:18] mjg59_ phanes: You have evidence that there was an attempt to evade service? [08:19] phanes mjg59_, do you have evidence that you're conscious [08:19] mjg59_ Not that can be convincingly presented over this medium, no [08:19] mjg59_ But consciousness is a complicated topic, evading service isn't [08:20] mjg59_ Failing to find someone's address is not evidence of them evading service [08:20] phanes its not a horribly relevant point to me if they did or did not, i just find it amusing and suspicious [08:20] TR News Supreme Court of Canada on Copyright: "Copyright Law Does Not Exist Solely for the Benefit of Authors" - Michael Geist https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/07/supreme-court-of-canada-on-copyright-copyright-law-does-not-exist-solely-for-the-benefit-of-authors/ Source: michaelgeist [08:20] TR Bot Supreme Court of Canada on Copyright: "Copyright Law Does Not Exist Solely for the Benefit of Authors" - Michael Geist [08:21] matey consciousness is a complicated topic <- :) [08:22] TR News "EARL is Europes largest R community event dedicated to showcasing commercial applications of the R language." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/why-this-is-the-year-you-should-take-the-stage-at-earl-2022/ [08:22] TR Bot this is the year you should take the stage at EARL 2022 | R-bloggers [08:22] phanes man the houses in san fran are stupidly priced, i know how bad it is, but i still get shocked every time i see it [08:22] matey i imagine in most contexts he would make that statement, thats a completely serious statement [08:23] matey the way it was processed at a glance was as wry humour [08:23] mjg59_ Penrose spent ages claiming that consciousness was a quantum phenomenon, using microtubules in E. coli as an example to explain how they appeared to have memory to engage in chemotaxis [08:23] TR News "To continue on the 80s tracks, I'll toss on "Don't You (Forget About Me)" by Simple Minds, and we can fill the parlor with hairspray and snap bubble gum in large, obnoxious bubbles when people try to grab our undivided attention." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1083 [08:24] matey sadly, i then thought of instances where it wouldnt be. it was funnier because i dont know if ive ever spotted mjg making a joke [08:24] phanes matey, i want to see proof that he's not a complex stimulus response machine [08:24] mjg59_ Turns out that it's actually just an adaptive response curve in the receptor pathway [08:25] matey "consciousness is actually just an adaptive response curve in the receptor pathway. change my mind." [08:25] TR News "Were excited to announce that NIMBLE now supports automatic differentiation (AD), also known as algorithmic differentiation, in a beta version available on our website." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/beta-version-of-nimble-with-automatic-differentiation-including-hmc-sampling-and-laplace-approximation/ [08:25] TR Bot version of NIMBLE with automatic differentiation, including HMC sampling and Laplace approximation | R-bloggers [08:25] matey that should make it a lot easier to simulate. when do teslas become self-aware? [08:25] matey /me is not an ai expert. does not for one second pretend to be [08:26] phanes matey, tesla's ARE known to self-immolate [08:26] matey hell im not even a novice [08:26] matey matey, tesla's ARE known to self-immolate <- i think the past few years, if nothing else, prove that activism does not require one to be fully self-aware [08:26] phanes lol [08:26] matey :) [08:28] matey also ive tried initiating verbal commands to teslas before [08:28] matey they might just be following orders [08:28] TR News "Linux (Pop!_OS v20.04) was installed on it and has been the more trusty workhorse since. Audio is great, replaced the HDD with an SSD, the touch screen works excellently, the battery properly charges again, dual screen and multi-finger track-pad also works fine" https://www.ghacks.net/2022/07/23/you-may-now-buy-windows-11-licenses-directly-from-microsoft-but-shouldnt/ [08:28] TR Bot You may now buy Windows 11 licenses directly from Microsoft (but shouldn't) - gHacks Tech News [08:29] matey i dont know if they even have mics. they might be able to read lips. [08:29] phanes mjg59_, btw, around what year did you and the defendant in the todd case meet? [08:30] mjg59_ 2015, I think? [08:30] phanes thanks [08:31] mjg59_ I think we'd possibly been in the same place on occasion before then, but I don't remember us communicating before 2015 [08:34] phanes mjg59_, so what do you think the impact was on ts'o after you defamed him? [08:35] TR News Wayland Core Protocol is Tailored Only for GNOME and Thats Not a Good Thing [Opinion] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167585 [08:35] schestowitz[TR2] matey: ibm at it again, crippling gnu/linux by making it less modular [08:36] matey maybe they can stuff every function into a single binary blob [08:36] TR Bot Wayland Core Protocol is Tailored Only for GNOME and That's Not a Good Thing [Opinion] | Tux Machines [08:36] matey linux.sys [08:36] matey hell, who needs 8.3 [08:36] matey systemd-init.rd [08:37] TR News Some final analysis and concluding words about the 12-part series regarding despicable attempts to create another patent bubble by artificially increasing grant rates in the area of algorithms/business methods http://techrights.org/2022/07/23/unsuitably-qualified-epo-management/ [08:37] TR Bot When Europes Largest Patent Office is Governed by Lawyers, Bankers, and Career-Climbing Opportunists Who Violate the European Patent Convention (EPC) for Them | Techrights [08:37] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167586 [08:37] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:37] mjg59_ phanes: I disagree with the foundation of the question [08:37] matey matey: ibm at it again, crippling gnu/linux by making it less modula <- its funny because [08:37] matey on the one hand, knowing ibm, its completely plausible. [08:37] phanes mjg59_, you don't think your false words hurt him in any way? [08:38] matey on the other hand, when you said systemd is microsoft and "now its more obvious" [08:38] matey you literally never came up with any specific reason it had changed or anything to justify the statement [08:38] mjg59_ phanes: I don't believe there were any false words [08:38] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167587 [08:38] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [08:38] matey so im like, "really? howso?" [08:38] matey and i dont even expect a real answer [08:38] phanes mjg59_, interesting, so, i mean, how do you feel those words impacted him though? [08:39] schestowitz[TR2] matey: I all along said sceptical stuff about wayland [08:39] schestowitz[TR2] if you saw who pushed that and on what premise [08:39] schestowitz[TR2] we also klnow ICBM pushes GNOME [08:39] matey fair enough [08:39] schestowitz[TR2] and ties everything to it [08:39] schestowitz[TR2] when ICBM bought Red Hat they quietly abannnndoned KDE [08:39] matey i dont recall you ever being a wayland apologist. [08:39] mjg59_ phanes: I have literally no idea [08:39] phanes mjg59_, never thought about it? [08:40] mjg59_ phanes: He was employed by Google beforehand, he's still employed by Google, so from a professional perspective my guess would be very little [08:40] phanes mjg59_, can you recall a time when you caused emotional pain to someone either inadvertently or deliberately? [08:41] matey /me personally thinks it helped to destroy any future the linux kernel had [08:41] matey but its just an opinion [08:41] mjg59_ phanes: Oh, yes [08:41] TR News OpenFlexure is an Open-source 3D-Printed Low-cost Microscope https://medevel.com/openflexure/ [08:41] TR Bot OpenFlexure is an Open-source 3D-Printed Low-cost Microscope [08:42] TR News Microscope-PiCam: An Open-source Raspberry Pi Microscope https://medevel.com/microscope-picam/ [08:42] TR Bot Microscope-PiCam: An Open-source Raspberry Pi Microscope [08:42] phanes mjg59_, got an example, or is this just a blanket "no i have done this, since im not a sociopath" kinda deal [08:43] TR News "Lanchat is a free open-source messenger app for local network messaging (LAN), that works for Windows, Linux, and macOS. It features a built-in encryption, file transfer, automatic connection and terminal UI." https://medevel.com/lanchat-os-lan/ [08:43] TR Bot Lanchat: The Open-source LAN/ Local Network Messenger is No longer maintained [08:43] mjg59_ phanes: Nothing that I'm going to discuss publicly, no [08:43] phanes if you'd like, i can offer you confidence in a private message dialog [08:43] phanes since, not being a dirtbag, i dont leak pm' [08:43] mjg59_ You're not my therapist, so I'm going to pass on that [08:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [08:44] phanes i assumed as much, just wanted to watch you flop around a bit [08:45] phanes low eq certainly, but, i can't rule out a full blown DSM-registered kind of situation [08:45] TR News "I finally decided to continue a Ph.D. after working as a practitioner for several years. I followed that path to develop expertise in critical thinking, project management, and writing. To date, I find that Im awful at writing." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/leaving-a-phd-program/ [08:45] TR Bot a PhD Program | R-bloggers [08:46] TR News How quickly can you convert floats to doubles (and back)? - Daniel Lemires blog https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/20/how-quickly-can-you-convert-floats-to-doubles-and-back/ Source: lemire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lemire.me/blog/2022/07/20/how-quickly-can-you-convert-floats-to-doubles-and-back/ [08:46] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/20/how-quickly-can-you-convert-floats-to-doubles-and-back/ ) [08:46] *phanes uses sed for that :P [08:47] TR News Negative incentives in academic research - Daniel Lemires blog https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/ Source: lemire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/ [08:47] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/ ) [08:49] phanes and poof, just like that, scuttles back to the shadowy corner of the room to stare [08:52] matey /me clicks on the backlog again, waiting for it to open to the public [08:52] matey "letmein" [08:52] matey "love" [08:52] matey "god" [08:52] matey "sesame" [08:53] phanes bro are you running a john the ripper against a baptist church blog or something [08:53] matey "genesis" [08:53] matey no [08:53] matey did you know that saying paswords out loud while clicking a link in a web browser DOESNT log you in? [08:53] matey /me writes a patch [08:54] matey in hackers they go over most common (stupid) passwords [08:55] matey including "love" and "god" (the latter of which gets them into the mainframe) [08:55] matey you know youre in the mainframe because it looks like a 3d animated postscript buffer overflow [08:55] matey "this must be what einstein saw when he dropped acid" [08:55] phanes whenever i hear "mainframe" i think of the shitty abomination called z/OS [08:56] matey if i have to take acid AND study advanced calculus, thats too much effort to get high [08:56] matey the mainframe is the computer thats so awesome fisher stevens can ride a skateboard through it [08:57] matey i like that movie, even though its basically the technical equivalent of "smurfs" [08:58] matey ive never tried the simulating a rotary dial with the cradle switch though, and ive always wanted to [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [08:59] matey before they finally scrap pots for the copper ● Jul 24 [09:00] TR News "For a long time, Linux has perhaps been in a transition from the venerable iptables" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/NFTablesInoffensive | Source: uni Toronto [09:00] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/NFTablesInoffensive [09:00] TR News "Fortunately, with the correct combination of flags, this is actually achievable." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-07-23-openbsd-sshfs.html | Source: Data Swamp [09:01] TR Bot Solene'% : How to use sshfs on OpenBSD [09:01] phanes https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.340308/gov.uscourts.cand.340308.20.0.pdf [09:01] TR News "Docking stations come in many forms with many different purposes" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/22/converting-a-commodore-pet-into-a-usb-docking-station/ | Source: Arduino [09:01] TR Bot Converting a Commodore PET into a USB docking station | Arduino Blog [09:01] TR News "Thus, the all-SSD high-performance edit NASon a budget." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/building-fast-all-ssd-nas-on-budget | Source: Jeff Geerling [09:01] TR Bot Building a fast all-SSD NAS (on a budget) | Jeff Geerling [09:02] TR News "Modern web services build their entire businesses on being available and their customers come to expect it." https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-20-the-modern-web-s-many-single-points-of-failure.html | Source: Bjrn Wrmedal [09:02] TR Bot The Modern Web's Many Single Points of Failure - Bjrn Wrmedal [09:03] TR News "The ICFP Programming Competition is an international programming competition" https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-prepare-for-icfp-or-international-conference-for-functional-programming/ | Source: Geeks For Geeks [09:03] TR Bot How to prepare for ICFP or International Conference on Functional Programming? - GeeksforGeeks [09:03] TR News "Live streaming: Keynotes and talks will be livestreamed on the rstudio::conf website" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/join-rstudioconf2022-virtually/ | Source: Rlang [09:03] TR Bot rstudio::conf(2022) Virtually | R-bloggers [09:03] TR News "CHERITech22 is free; PLISS does have a registration fee" https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/cheritech_and_pliss.html | Source: Lawrence Tratt [09:03] TR Bot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/cheritech_and_pliss.html ) [09:04] *GNUmoon has quit (Write error: Connection reset by peer) [09:05] TR News "In this blog post, we will perform a deep analysis into GootLoader" https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/07/20/analysis-of-a-trojanized-jquery-script-gootloader-unleashed/ | Source: NVISO Labs [09:05] TR Bot Analysis of a trojanized jQuery script: GootLoader unleashed NVISO Labs [09:05] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [09:05] TR News "The XML is a metafile which represents three different actual files." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/on-metafiles/ | Source: Buttondown [09:05] TR Bot On Metafiles Buttondown [09:07] TR News "Despite its pervasiveness, the technology is still prone to headache-inducing issues" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/10/tech/bluetooth-technology-headache/index.html | Source: CNN [09:07] TR Bot Why Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades - CNN [09:08] TR News "Well, turns out it's not quite as arbitrary as it may seem." https://www.netmeister.org/blog/dns-size.html | Source: Jan Schaumann [09:08] TR Bot DNS Response Size [09:08] TR News IRC Proceedings: Saturday, July 23, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/24/irc-log-230722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/24/irc-log-230722/ [09:09] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Saturday, July 23, 2022 | Techrights [09:10] matey http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/ [09:10] TR Bot Theres Apparently a New Boss (or Policy) at Red Hat/IBM | Techrights [09:13] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc [09:13] TR Bot Scientology - What are your crimes? - Invidious [09:14] phanes matey, that's interesting news about kofler. [09:14] matey i honestly assumed you were aware of it already [09:14] phanes matey, in all fairness he kind of had it coming. so does ben cotten. they both needed replaced because they turn too many blind eyes to what happens in those communities. [09:14] matey however, theres so much of this shit [09:14] matey i personally cant keep track of it all [09:15] phanes matey, im more confused that this isn't about ben cotton than that it's about kevin kofler tbh [09:15] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:16] matey i read the tweet about kofler from the link you provided [09:16] matey then i was trying to figure out why the name was familiar [09:16] matey i read the 2020 page at the link i just provided, in 2020 [09:16] matey so clearly his ban was the reason i know the name [09:16] phanes matey, yep he was recently targeted by mjg59_ in a TAODB listed entry [09:17] matey i dont know the context of that-- but i presume the two are one in the same [09:17] TR News 12 minutes with a City shirt, already a goal for Haaland https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/bayern-munich-v-manchester-city-extended-highlights-63794225 [09:17] TR Bot Bayern Munich 0-1 City: Extended highlights [09:17] matey cancel culture is a cult tactic [09:18] phanes matey, i haven't done the writeup yet: https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/2022-07-08/ [09:18] TR Bot TAODB [09:18] matey its one thing when its honest [09:18] matey when the motivations and accusations are honest [09:18] matey when its weaponised it usually isnt honest [09:19] phanes kevin actually wasn't a particularly toxic person, he just had horseblinders on when it came to the issues i harp about [09:19] matey its pretty difficult to say "youre abusing honesty as a weapon" [09:20] matey though fake honesty is more than common [09:21] matey i haven't done the writeup yet <- yeah, this is what i was referring to when i said "i read the tweet about kofler from the link you provided" [09:21] matey im more confused that this isn't about ben cotton <- coup [09:22] matey the thing about kevin kofler is i dont know anything about him except that he was banned [09:22] matey and i guess hes a kde guy [09:22] matey which was inevitable i guess, when your name is "kevin kofler" [09:23] matey maybe they decided to go zero tolerance on "kde kevin kofler" [09:24] matey lwn.net/Articles/387013/ [09:24] matey Kevin Kofler's open letter about why he was not going to run again for a seat on the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) was the starting point of the problem thread. But the focus of the discussion was mostly on the update process for Fedora, something which has been roiling the Fedora waters for several months now. [09:25] phanes do you have a link to that open letter [09:26] TR News "The recipe is simple, but quite effective." https://batsov.com/articles/2022/07/21/dealing-with-unwanted-email/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov [09:26] TR Bot Dealing with Unwanted Email - (think) [09:27] matey i can try to find it [09:27] TR News "Prior to 1960, there was hardly any formal research funding competitions" https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/ | Source: Daniel Lemire [09:27] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/21/negative-incentives-in-academic-research/ ) [09:28] TR News "Makers Lab will focus on the effect of quantum on image optimisation for satellites etc" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/strategy-and-management/techm-mahindra-university-to-set-up-lab-for-metaverse-quantum-computing/93083802 | Source: India Times [09:28] TR Bot quantum: TechM, Mahindra University to set up lab for Metaverse, quantum computing, CIO News, ET CIO [09:28] TR News "Automotive chip order times remain long around the world" https://www.voanews.com/a/how-china-became-ground-zero-for-the-auto-chip-shortage-/6670710.html | Source: VOA News [09:28] TR Bot How China Became Ground Zero for the Auto Chip Shortage [09:29] matey phanes: https://lwn.net/Articles/387330/ <- the open letter [09:29] TR Bot Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo [LWN.net] [09:29] matey Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 02:20:51 +0200 [09:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:30] matey Basically any proposal I filed was systematically shot down. Even things [09:30] matey which should be obvious such as: [09:30] matey . calling GNOME by its name rather than the generic "Desktop" or [09:30] matey . eliminating the useless bureaucratic red tape of FESCo ratification for [09:30] matey FPC guidelines which just wastes everyone's time and constitutes pure [09:30] matey process inefficiency [09:30] matey got only incomprehension. [09:30] matey I have come to the conclusion that it is just plain impossible for a single [09:30] matey person to change FESCo's ways and that therefore I am just wasting my time [09:30] matey there. [09:30] matey i dont plan to post the whole thing [09:30] schestowitz[TR2] koffler: http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/ [09:30] TR Bot Theres Apparently a New Boss (or Policy) at Red Hat/IBM | Techrights [09:30] matey already posted that url [09:31] matey 08:10 http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/rex-dieter-bans-kevin-kofler/ [09:31] matey still wonder why he was banned [09:31] schestowitz[TR2] "- Basically any proposal I filed was systematically shot down. Even things [09:31] schestowitz[TR2] which should be obvious such as: [09:31] schestowitz[TR2] . calling GNOME by its name rather than the generic "Desktop" or [09:31] schestowitz[TR2] . eliminating the useless bureaucratic red tape of FESCo ratification for [09:31] schestowitz[TR2] FPC guidelines which just wastes everyone's time and constitutes pure [09:31] schestowitz[TR2] process inefficiency [09:31] schestowitz[TR2] got only incomprehension." [09:31] matey the open letter is from a decade prior [09:31] schestowitz[TR2] matey: daemon knows more [09:31] schestowitz[TR2] he said he had criticise come corporations [09:32] schestowitz[TR2] ONLY RED HAT STAFF CAN DO THIS [09:32] schestowitz[TR2] like bashing []sic] NVIDIA [09:32] matey If you would like a KDE SIG [09:32] matey person in FESCo, vote for Steven M. Parrish (and vote for Rex Dieter for the [09:32] matey Board). [09:33] schestowitz[TR2] "vote for Steven M. Parrish (and vote for Rex Dieter for the [09:33] schestowitz[TR2] Board)" [09:33] matey so he suggested people elect (in 2010) the same person who banned him (in 2020) [09:33] schestowitz[TR2] oh [09:33] schestowitz[TR2] you noticed the sae!! [09:33] schestowitz[TR2] I was about the quote that too [09:33] schestowitz[TR2] he tried to open support tickets [09:33] schestowitz[TR2] to get unbanned [09:33] schestowitz[TR2] i mailed him [09:34] schestowitz[TR2] he did not reply [09:34] matey Common sense is just generally lacking, see e.g. the decision that the GNOME [09:34] matey spin should continue being called "Desktop Spin", despite evidence that this [09:34] matey is confusing many users [09:34] matey this is what i did when esr got banned [09:34] matey i tried to find what pissed people off so much [09:34] TR News "The researchers behind the "pioneering" Luxembourgish study" https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1945290.html | Source: RTL [09:34] TR Bot RTL Today - Luxembourg Institute of Health: Researchers find up to 88 different pollutants in children's hair [09:34] matey of course today i would just say "i mean, its esr" [09:34] TR News "Healthy" censorship https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/youtube-says-it-will-remove-videos-showing-abortion-misinformation-1235184856/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter [09:34] TR Bot YouTube Says It Will Remove Videos Showing Abortion Misinformation The Hollywood Reporter [09:34] matey but at the time i was really curious [09:35] matey banning founders is USUALLY silly [09:35] matey even banning esr is probably silly [09:35] schestowitz[TR2] he got marked [09:35] schestowitz[TR2] like preining [09:35] schestowitz[TR2] then they just needed some grounds [09:35] schestowitz[TR2] to make it seem like a legit grievance [09:36] matey All the power in Fedora is being centralized into 2 major committees: the [09:36] matey Board and FESCo. FESCo is responsible for a lot of things all taking up [09:36] matey meeting time, leading to lengthy meetings and little time for discussion. [09:36] matey Many of those things could be handled better in a more decentralized way. [09:36] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [09:36] TR News Gulag sent him to the gulag https://www.dawn.com/news/1701162/google-fires-software-engineer-who-claimed-its-ai-chatbot-is-sentient | Source: Dawn Media [09:36] TR Bot fires software engineer who claimed its AI chatbot is sentient - Tech - DAWN.COM [09:36] matey Maintainers are continuously being distrusted. It all started with the [09:36] matey provenpackager policy, where every single provenpackager has to be voted in [09:36] matey by a FESCo majority vote, as opposed to letting any sponsor approve people [09:36] matey as provenpackagers as originally planned, or just opening all our packages [09:36] matey to everyone as was the case in the old Extras [09:36] matey yeah really, fuck this guy [09:36] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/albania-resumes-public-online-services-probes-cyberattack/93072157 | Source: India Times [09:36] TR Bot Albania resumes public online services, probes cyberattack, CIO News, ET CIO [09:36] matey making suggestions-- who does that [09:37] matey saying where bottlenecks exist [09:37] matey having the nerve to say bureacracy is stubborn and unhelpful [09:37] matey LETS GET HIM [09:37] matey though im sure im missing something here [09:38] TR News Surveillance with fonts https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/teamviewer-font-privacy.html | Source: Daniel Aleksandersen [09:38] TR Bot TeamViewer installs suspicious font only useful for web fingerprinting | Ctrl blog [09:38] matey ROFL [09:38] matey the policy for overzealous hall monitors in fedora [09:38] matey is ACTUALLY CALLED the "hall monitor policy" [09:38] TR News Surveillance of medical data... by Bezos https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/strategy-and-management/amazon-spending-3-9-bn-in-expanding-health-care-push/93065822 | Source: India Times [09:38] TR Bot amazon: Amazon spending $3.9 bn in expanding health care push, CIO News, ET CIO [09:39] matey i guess calling it the busybody douchebag policy sounded unprofessional [09:40] TR News Bill Gates propaganda network 'guardian': "A recent article in The Guardian parroted evidence-free allegations that The Grayzones Aaron Mat is "the most prolific spreader of disinformation" about Syria among a "network" of "conspiracy theorists."" https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/23/video-aaron-mate-challenges-guardian-on-syria/ | Source: Scheerpost [09:40] TR Bot Aaron Mat Challenges Guardian on Syria scheerpost.com [09:41] matey Vidal quoted a blanket provision in the policy that allows thread closure posts for ""aggressive or problematic mailing list threads"" as the reason the action was taken. That didn't sit well with a number of folks. Kofler complained: ""This vague paragraph can be abused to justify censoring pretty much everything."" [09:41] TR News Rockchip https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-router-dev-board-is-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3588-dual-gbe-and-8gb-ram/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [09:41] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-router-dev-board-is-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3588-dual-gbe-and-8gb-ram/ ) [09:41] TR News "This is the seventh part of Calc Basics and in this chance we will learn about VLOOKUP formula." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/libreoffice-calc-basics-vii-vlookup.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [09:41] TR Bot LibreOffice Calc Basics VII: VLOOKUP [09:42] TR News "Russia's entire cinema industry is on the brink of collapse." https://torrentfreak.com/127-russian-cinemas-resort-to-piracy-movie-boss-says-i-dont-blame-them-220723/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:42] TR Bot Russian Cinemas Resort to Piracy, Movie Boss Says: "I Don't Blame Them" * TorrentFreak [09:42] matey McGrath is firmly in the camp that Fedora should first decide what it is and what its goals are, and then ask those who are ""chronically unhappy"" with that direction to leave the project. That would lead to less contentious mailing list threads among other things. It's a hard problem, he said, and ""we don't want everyone who's unhappy with Fedora to leave"" [09:42] matey https://lwn.net/Articles/387013/ [09:42] TR Bot hall monitors and slippery slopes [LWN.net] [09:43] matey While the goals of the hall monitor policy are generally good, it isn't clear that making decisions on specific threads to try to stop discussions getting "out of hand" is a good way forward. It is something of a "slippery slope". There are too many fine lines that need to be drawnand then challenged by dissentersthat it may just be an exercise in futility. [09:44] matey For the current problem thread, at least, the real underlying issues have yet to be completely addressed. As Fedora moves toward implementing the new packaging rules, which may slow down the usual Fedora update stream, the decline in users and contributors that Kofler envisions may occur. [09:44] matey including kofler i guess [09:44] TR News Software Patents: "Mr. Bessen then got in touch with his former roommate at Harvard University, Eric Maskin, who had become an economics professor at their alma mater." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/business/software-james-bessen-book.html | Source: New York Times [09:44] TR Bot How Software Is Stifling Competition and Slowing Innovation - The New York Times [09:44] TR News Patents https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/song-dance-usmca-news-conferences/ | Source: Mexico News Daily [09:44] TR Bot A song to dance the USMCA: the week's news conferences [09:45] phanes shit it's almost 5am [09:46] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:46] matey its 5am somewhere [09:49] matey grenada, apparently [09:49] matey nearly 6 [09:49] schestowitz[TR2] boston area.. [09:50] matey nearly 5 [09:50] schestowitz[TR2] ET [09:50] matey but in grenada its already 5 [09:51] phanes """...move the Court to strike Plaintiff Peter Todds (Todd) complaint pursuant to Californias anti-SLAPP statute...complaint should be stricken because the sole cause of action, for defamation, raises a matter of public concern, and Todd cannot produce evidence sufficient to meet his burden under section 425.16 of the California Code of Civil Procedure""" [09:51] matey here is where its already 5am [09:51] TR News Sandbag and Zuckerface attacked democracy, profited from it https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/22/23274364/mark-zuckerberg-sheryl-sandberg-deposed-cambridge-analytica-meta-leadership-facebook | Source: The Verge [09:51] TR Bot Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg are set to be deposed about Cambridge Analytica - The Verge [09:51] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UTC_time_offsets#UTC%E2%88%9204:00,_Q [09:51] TR Bot List of UTC offsets - Wikipedia [09:52] phanes this defense doesn't rest on grounds of truth but abuse of anti-slapp precedents and "can't prove it bub" [09:54] TR News "Caledonian Sleeper did in fact let passengers know the service was cancelled" https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1945317.html "tweeting at seven minutes"... TWITTER IS NOT A COMMUNICATION PLATFORM, it's a Saudi-owned censorship machine [09:54] TR Bot RTL Today - Scotland: Man spends night on sleeper train, wakes to find it never left the station [09:54] TR News "Alan MacLeod, who published a piece last week about ex-CIA agents working at Facebook" https://thehill.com/hilltv/3566225-reporter-facebook-using-ex-cia-to-decide-misinformation-policy-is-very-very-worrying/ | Source: The Hill [09:54] TR Bot Reporter: Facebook using ex-CIA to decide misinformation policy is very, very worrying | The Hill [09:55] matey /me doesnt know if roy gets the reference (probably) [09:55] TR News ">In previous investigations, this author has detailed how TikTok is flooded with NATO officials" https://www.mintpressnews.com/meet-ex-cia-agents-deciding-facebook-content-policy/281307/ | Source: Mint Press News [09:55] TR Bot Meet the Ex-CIA Agents Deciding Facebook's Content Policy [09:55] TR News "American Data Privacy and Protection Act" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/07/positive-and-negative-responses-to-committees-action-on-american-data-privacy-and-protection-act/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast [09:55] TR Bot Positive and Negative Responses to Committee's Action on American Data Privacy and Protection Act : Broadband Breakfast [09:55] matey theres a song (and im sure a phrase that predates it) that goes "its 5 oclock somewhere" [09:56] schestowitz[TR2] i didn't know [09:56] schestowitz[TR2] camp grenada I know... [09:56] matey meaning that non-drunks dont go to get drunk until 5pm or something [09:56] schestowitz[TR2] there's thaqt too [09:56] matey or, that youre still at work [09:56] schestowitz[TR2] same artist [09:56] schestowitz[TR2] camp grenada [09:56] schestowitz[TR2] and drinking man's diet [09:56] matey camp grenada is older [09:56] schestowitz[TR2] boose in the cereal [09:57] matey this is jimmy buffet and alan jackson, i think [09:57] schestowitz[TR2] I have those on disk [09:57] schestowitz[TR2] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4yFTOvO0utY [09:57] TR Bot Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh (Camp Granada Song) with Lyrics Sing-Along, Allan Sherman, 1963, updated - Invidious [09:57] schestowitz[TR2] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KRJ02VB5Evk [09:57] TR Bot Allan Sherman - The Drinking Man's Diet (1965) - Invidious [09:58] TR News "Since the unlawful processing of personal data for political advertising" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/new-rules-on-political-advertising-to-stop-voter-manipulation/ | Source: Patrick Breyer [09:58] TR Bot New Rules on political advertising to stop voter manipulation! Patrick Breyer [09:59] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/understanding-evolution-cybercrime-predict-its-future | Source: Security Week [09:59] TR Bot the Evolution of Cybercrime to Predict its Future | SecurityWeek.Com [09:59] matey incidentally i abhor country music as a genre [09:59] matey i think jimmy buffet is lovely but i dont generally consider him "country music" [09:59] phanes leave the jimmy, take the warren [09:59] schestowitz[TR2] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nLcX3efy1YQ [09:59] matey not all southern musicians are country music artists. hes from alabama i think [09:59] TR Bot Headaches - Invidious [09:59] schestowitz[TR2] his voice is terrible btw [09:59] phanes ● Jul 24 [10:00] matey what does warren buffet sing [10:00] matey /me bets a canole can sing better than warren buffet [10:00] phanes matey, the money song [10:00] schestowitz[TR2] gates was into "my way" [10:00] schestowitz[TR2] his way [10:00] schestowitz[TR2] flying with epstein [10:00] schestowitz[TR2] in the lolita express [10:00] schestowitz[TR2] there was an article about how he was into that song [10:00] matey /me imagines warren buffet singing "money money money, money! MONNNEEEYYY!" [10:01] schestowitz[TR2] I guess his way and his thinking... he doesn't think like the rest of us [10:01] TR News "The award extends the ANES, a widely used research data series at the U-M Institute for Social Research" https://record.umich.edu/articles/u-m-research-data-series-awarded-14m-to-study-2024-elections/ | Source: uni Michigan [10:01] TR Bot U-M research data series awarded $14M to study 2024 elections | The University Record [10:02] TR News National Science Foundation (NSF) https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/18/national-science-foundation-awards-14-million-grant-for-the-study-of-national-2024-election/ | Source: Forbes [10:02] matey "you sang a song called 'my way' but someone else wrote it" epic rap battles of history: freddie mercury vs frank sinatra [10:02] TR Bot National Science Foundation Awards $14 Million Grant For The Study Of National 2024 Election [10:02] TR News "The Accountable Institutions and Behavior Program in the Directorate for Social" https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2021/nsf21601/nsf21601.htm | [10:02] TR Bot 2024 American National Election Study Competition (ANES) (nsf21601) | NSF - National Science Foundation [10:02] schestowitz[TR2] matey: real one? [10:02] matey "easy, jaws of life, i cant stand a racist! i love the coloreds and the queers, just ask sammy davis!" [10:02] schestowitz[TR2] I did not see it [10:03] matey no, erb is epic lloyd and nicepeter [10:04] TR News "Linux myths have been floating around on the [Internet] for a very long time." https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-myths-debunked/ | Source: Make Use Of [10:04] TR Bot 7 Myths About Linux That You Should Stop Believing [10:06] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=99-n42Xb6NQ [10:06] TR Bot Gordon Ramsay vs Julia Child. Epic Rap Battles of History - Invidious [10:07] TR News I see that clickfraud spamnil has taken the fraud up another notch. Linux Foundation subsides fraud. [10:10] TR News Narendra Modi, puppet of Bill Gates and other high-profile criminals https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/scholars-reprimanded-universities-criticising-indian-government | Source: Times Higher Education [10:10] TR Bot Indian scholars report intimidation and harassment | Times Higher Education (THE) [10:12] TR News [10:12] TR News Linux Foundation defrauds people. It damages the "Linux" brand. http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/ [10:12] TR Bot New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights [10:13] TR News "[...] work being sabotaged last one year" https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/harassed-and-targeted-tanushree-dutta-says-she-will-not-resort-to-suicide-but-will-fight/articleshow/93000060.cms | Source: India Times [10:13] TR Bot Harassed and targeted Tanushree Dutta says she will not resort to suicide but will fight | Hindi Movie News - Times of India [10:13] TR News "actress Tanushree Dutta has spoken out yet again about being harassed by #metoo perpetrators." https://www.wionews.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-tanushree-dutta-claims-harassment-by-bollywood-mafia-in-an-instagram-post-says-will-not-commit-suicide-499162 | Source: Essel Group [10:13] TR Bot Tanushree Dutta claims 'harassment by Bollywood mafia' in an Instagram post, says 'will not commit suicide' - Entertainment News [10:14] TR News "Tweet an apology or go to jail" https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/foreign-journalist-lynne-donnell-article-apology-taliban-afghanistan-tweet-1977948-2022-07-20 | Source: India Today [10:14] TR Bot 'Tweet apology or go to jail': Foreign journo says she was threatened by Taliban - World News [10:14] matey distro is to free software as internet explorer is to windows [10:14] TR News [Old] "IWMF announces Courage in Journalism Awards. Women journalists from Ukraine..." https://www.morningstar.com/news/pr-newswire/20220627dc99832/iwmf-announces-2022-courage-in-journalism-award-winners | Source: Morningstar US [10:14] TR Bot Announces 2022 Courage in Journalism Award Winners | Morningstar [10:17] TR News IBASE... Back doors again: "A few days ago, IBASE unveiled an ATX motherboard debuting the 12th Gen Intel Core processors." https://linuxgizmos.com/atx-board-integrates-12th-gen-intel-processors-dual-2-5gbe-quad-displays-and-5g-lte-support/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:17] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/atx-board-integrates-12th-gen-intel-processors-dual-2-5gbe-quad-displays-and-5g-lte-support/ ) [10:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [10:21] *techrights-news has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [10:22] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [10:22] TR News Viral Video: Goat Cries and Hugs Owner as He Sells It to Butcher For Bakra Eid. 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Watch [10:23] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [10:23] TR News iophk: a tweet is not a substitute for service notification https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1945317.html [10:23] TR Bot RTL Today - Scotland: Man spends night on sleeper train, wakes to find it never left the station [10:24] TR News iophk: the press is still helping Microsoft conflate attacks with successful breaches [10:25] TR News "mjg already killed linux anyway" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220722.html#tJul%2022%2008:12:48 [10:26] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 22, 2022 [10:26] TR News "You can deal with Security Theater Boot by turning it off in the firmware setup and then never worrying about it fucking up your system again." ... for now ... http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220722.html#tJul%2022%2008:16:44 [10:26] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 22, 2022 [10:27] TR News "linus torvalds said he uses webmail now" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220722.html#tJul%2022%2022:39:56 iophk: :( :( :( no wonder he can't get work done [10:27] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 22, 2022 [10:29] TR News Murderers running the world. Hey, how's Jamal Khashoggi? "Well, he's dead..." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet-of-things/saudi-crown-prince-to-visit-greece-to-sign-energy-telecoms-deals/93069648 [10:29] TR Bot Saudi crown prince to visit Greece to sign energy, telecoms deals, CIO News, ET CIO [10:31] TR News Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/23/historic-moment-american-labor-starbucks-workers-notch-200th-union-win | Source: Common Dreams [10:31] TR Bot 'Historic Moment in American Labor': Starbucks Workers Notch 200th Union Win [10:32] schestowitz[TR2] matey: can you elaboate? [10:32] schestowitz[TR2] windows is an OS [10:32] schestowitz[TR2] free software is a concept [10:32] schestowitz[TR2] distro is a an OS [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] IE is malware [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] so I don't get the analogy, in that order [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] unless: [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] distro is to free software [10:33] matey internet explorer is the shit you cant remove from windows [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] is freedom to free software [10:33] matey so is everything else for the most part [10:33] schestowitz[TR2] and at Microsoft, malware it to malwareOS [10:33] matey a distro is the shit you cant remove from free software [10:34] matey in theory this is completely untrue of course [10:34] matey you can remove basically anything [10:34] schestowitz[TR2] yeah [10:34] matey in practice... less so [10:34] schestowitz[TR2] or roll out your own [10:34] matey getting harder and harder to do, thats the point [10:34] schestowitz[TR2] or reuse existing prototypes [10:34] matey distro = bundling [10:34] schestowitz[TR2] some do not have wayland, pulseaudio, microsoft systemd [10:34] matey the harder they make it to unbundle, the more its like internet explorer in windows [10:35] matey distros dont technically have to bundle anything [10:35] matey they usually do [10:35] matey they dont have to make it harder to unbundle [10:35] matey but its a big trend [10:36] matey and its not just the distros fault (but sometimes it is) [10:36] matey software can be designed that way-- for example, systemd is like that no matter what distro you use, almost [10:36] matey but thats the thing [10:37] matey systemd is a distro disguised as a component (or components) of a distro [10:37] matey its basically the beginning of an os [10:37] matey who knows what basic features it will suck up next [10:38] matey dns, home folders, firewall, emulator [10:38] matey whatever ibm wants [10:38] matey if you look at some of the shit putin has rolled out [10:38] matey and you look at systemd [10:38] matey its almost like the gnu replacement putin built [10:39] matey this being a sidepoint, albeit a funny one [10:39] matey its kind of a mr potato head design [10:40] matey you have this giant unweilding thing [10:40] matey then you poke a bunch of other unwieldy things into it [10:40] matey to make a sort of monster/toy/whatever the fuck it is [10:41] matey but all of it is designed to take over something it has no business invading [10:42] matey i would prefer if distros were so modular you could just mix and match them [10:42] matey im aware of technical reasons why thats either difficult or impossible [10:42] matey but thats the level of modularity we would be seeking. instead, every distro wants to be the "boss" [10:43] matey to be sure, a lot of it is incidental, de facto, even hard to get past if you want to [10:43] matey used to be installers were mostly distro specific [10:43] matey thats changed, theyre becoming more generic [10:43] matey debian using ubuntus installer, many distros using a 3rd party installer [10:43] matey refracta-tools is another example [10:44] matey rather refracta installer [10:44] matey package managers used to be distro specific-- still are, mostly [10:44] matey guix is an exception. i dont like it, wouldnt use it, but we need to think about that as a concept [10:45] matey guix is a 3rd party package manager for more than one distro [10:45] matey now, what if you could build a "distro" solely out of 3rd party components? [10:45] matey that would be amazing [10:46] matey its like it wouldnt even be a distro [10:46] matey in the sense of a distro being a central point of bundling [10:46] matey the evils of debian would not exist [10:46] matey things like systemd might [10:46] matey this wouldnt cure all ills [10:46] matey it would cure one ill [10:46] matey others would still exist [10:47] matey im not even saying that in a world like that, no one should ever build an old-fashioned "integrated" distro [10:47] matey only that if we had the option of putting together our own from 3rd party components [10:47] TR News Starbucks https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-workers-officially-reach-200-union-election-victories/ | Source: TruthOut [10:47] TR Bot Starbucks Workers Officially Reach 200 Union Election Victories [10:47] matey ready to install, using some tool to bake those things into an image... [10:48] TR News "Newborn babies can be tricky to figure out, especially for first-time parents." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/machine-learning-baby-monitor-prevents-the-hunger-games/ | Source: Hackaday [10:48] TR Bot Learning Baby Monitor Prevents The Hunger Games | Hackaday [10:48] matey thats way better than a committee telling you sorry, thats not available for debian anymore because we just dont like it and fuck what users want [10:48] matey the distro is a bottleneck for users controlling their computing [10:48] TR News
  • [10:48] matey it limits what they can do [10:48] TR News Patents https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/patents-and-the-missing-museum/ | Source: Hackaday [10:49] TR Bot And The Missing Museum | Hackaday [10:49] matey and for most of its history that was de facto and more innocent [10:49] matey now its by design more and more [10:49] matey either way-- its something worth fixing imo [10:49] matey the best part is, it means instead of distro maintainers doing all the work [10:49] matey each software developer does a piece of something [10:50] matey theres no need for a "big distro" in theory [10:50] matey easier said than done? sure. probably take 15 years? who knows [10:50] matey a direction worth going in for free software? probably [10:50] matey even if it took 25 years [10:50] matey less distro. more software. [10:51] matey and for these intents and purposes, systemd is absolutely a distro [10:51] matey you want to be able to swap things out [10:51] matey systemd really isnt like that [10:52] matey i am stretching the meaning of the word a bit to explain this [10:52] matey the idea still works if you define distro properly / conventionally [10:52] matey only then it takes longer to explain the concept [10:53] matey for the most part, when i say distro i mean exactly what everyone else means when they say distro [10:54] TR News "SongBird turntable" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/is-3d-printing-up-to-a-turntable/ | Source: Hackaday [10:54] TR Bot 3D Printing Up To A Turntable? | Hackaday [10:55] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [10:59] TR News Amid inflation https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/23/right-wing-judge-bars-18-minimum-wage-californias-2022-ballot | Source: Common Dreams [10:59] TR Bot Right-Wing Judge Bars $18 Minimum Wage From California's 2022 Ballot ● Jul 24 [11:02] TR News "Perhaps the weakest point in modern electronics when it comes to user servicability is the lifecycle of the batteries" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/adding-a-battery-to-extend-speaker-life/ | Source: Hackaday [11:02] TR Bot A Battery To Extend Speaker Life | Hackaday [11:03] TR News Plotter https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/purpose-built-plotter-pitches-in-to-solve-wordblitz-on-your-phone/ | Source: Hackaday [11:03] TR Bot Plotter Pitches In To Solve Wordblitz On Your Phone | Hackaday [11:04] TR News Another patent racket? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/23/who-declares-monkeypox-global-public-health-emergency | Source: Common Dreams [11:04] TR Bot WHO Declares Monkeypox a Global Public Health Emergency [11:05] TR News "Whitney discusses the parallels between the rescue of Emergent Biosolutions with anthrax (and potentially now monkeypox) and the rescue of Moderna and BioNTech with Covid." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/05/investigative-reports/monkeypox-fears-may-rescue-endangered-corporations/ [11:05] TR Bot MonkeypoxFearsMay RescueEndangeredCorporations [11:06] TR News "Improve a mechanical device, and you may double productivity." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/23/hack-your-brain-bionic-reading-panacea-or-placebo/ | Source: Hackaday [11:06] TR Bot Your Brain: Bionic Reading Panacea Or Placebo? | Hackaday [11:06] matey durkheim may have recommended civil disobedience before thoreau [11:07] matey he said that crime was essentially necessary, and that one route to changing (unjust laws in) society was to break (unjust) laws [11:08] matey i think thoreau was more influential (on this topic) so he gets more credit [11:08] matey jobs didnt invent mp3 players, but he sold more of them to more people [11:10] matey "it would never have been possible to establish the freedom of thought we now enjoy if the regulations prohibiting it had not been violated before being solemnly abrogated." [11:11] matey breaking stupid rules = freedom [11:11] matey following GOOD rules = sometimes good [11:11] matey breaking stupid rules = also good [11:12] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:12] matey coc-masters cant tell the difference (or simply DONT tell the difference) between good ideals and good rules [11:12] matey a terrible rule takes you towards an ideal the same way a terrible road takes you to a place you want to be [11:13] matey maybe it just destroys your car on the way there and leaves you stranded [11:13] matey i certainly cant think of how thats happened to the free software movement [11:13] matey everything is fucking GREAT now [11:13] matey everyones happy, and weve destroyed anyone who disagrees [11:14] matey sounds good [11:14] matey the next step is mandatory happiness. this acheives two goals [11:14] phanes durkheim++ [11:15] matey first, making happiness mandatory means MORE PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY [11:15] matey that alone is an excellent argument for mandatory happiness [11:15] matey but another thing to consider, is that if happiness is mandatory, it will be harder for anyone to say that our brilliant plans were unsuccessful [11:15] phanes sounds like the corporate life [11:15] matey in theory at least, it will be impossible [11:16] phanes in corporate settings god forbid you not be happy [11:16] matey sounds like the corporate life <- is there any other? [11:16] matey i shudder to think of the poor unwashed souls who never knew the love of a corporation [11:17] phanes nevermind the fact that these grey cubicle walls have claimed the souls of 2 generations of scholars and champions, if you so much as acknowledge the shallow, broken consciousnesses that perpetuate this bland hellscape you had better have an offer on standby [11:17] matey one of these days we may even find a way to break poes law [11:17] matey nevermind the fact that these grey cubicle walls have claimed the souls of 2 generations of scholars and champions [11:17] matey sure but you cant make an omelette, etc etc [11:18] phanes a tin sardine can packed to the brim with people who desperately hate each other after the first year of their coexistence attempt [11:18] TR News Raspberry Pi Tracks Airport Arrivals and Departures | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-arrivals-and-departures-board Source: tomshardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-arrivals-and-departures-board [11:18] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Tracks Airport Arrivals and Departures | Tom's Hardware [11:19] TR News Devices that represents some freedom connected to malicious, oppressive listening device controlled by thugs https://www.tomshardware.com/news/alexa-controls-raspberry-pi-pico-door-lock [11:19] TR Bot Amazon Alexa Controls Raspberry Pi Pico Door Lock | Tom's Hardware [11:19] TR News Raspberry Pi Powers Machine Learning Terminator | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-terminator-t-800-skull Source: tomshardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-terminator-t-800-skull [11:19] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Powers Machine Learning Terminator | Tom's Hardware [11:20] phanes it always surprises me too becuse there can be no sane motiviation to suppress acknowledging it that i have found, as the reason they hate the cubicles, the walls, each other, is because they recognize that they are surrounded by the breaking and the broken, and see the blkeak depravity forming in everyone around them, promising to consume them next [11:20] phanes not talking about it doesn't preserve some cultural secret [11:20] phanes they all know [11:21] TR News Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Lego-Powered Submarine Makes a Splash | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-submarine Source: tomshardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-submarine [11:21] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Lego-Powered Submarine Makes a Splash | Tom's Hardware [11:21] matey different wards, same prison [11:21] phanes this is reinforced so heavily, to go against their humanity that by the time they have the weight to say something they no longer want to, because they've grown into the walls [11:21] matey office buildings used to be minimum security wards [11:21] matey now theyre medium [11:21] matey minimum just wasnt working out [11:22] TR News Raspberry Pi Backpack Is Ready for Hacking on the Go | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-backpack Source: tomshardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-backpack [11:22] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Backpack Is Ready for Hacking on the Go | Tom's Hardware [11:22] matey "you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave" [11:22] TR News "To make the mirror worth staring at even for those who arent vain, the Cellar Nerd replaced the sensors in the center of the Webb Space Telescopes mirror array with a salvaged 15.6-inch laptop screen connected to a Raspberry Pi 2 that holds actual images captured by the real telescope" https://gizmodo.com/james-webb-space-telescope-raspberry-pi-mirror-diy-1849189433 [11:22] TR Bot This James Webb Space Telescope Mirror Displays Real JWST Images [11:26] TR News Failing to disclose that Red Hat is paying them for these puff pieces, or selective disclosing that, sometimes... https://siliconangle.com/2022/07/19/matt-hicks-in-perspective-how-red-hats-new-ceo-revealed-his-view-of-it-through-interviews-with-thecube-rhsummit/ [11:26] TR Bot Red Hats new CEO Matt Hicks revealed his view of IT through interviews with theCUBE - SiliconANGLE [11:28] TR News This only works if you've already taken over the machine https://www.securityweek.com/new-cross-platform-luna-ransomware-only-offered-russian-affiliates [11:28] TR Bot Cross-Platform 'Luna' Ransomware Only Offered to Russian Affiliates | SecurityWeek.Com [11:29] TR News With Windows, there are back doors. With Linux, however, you need to first get in somehow. The media fails to mention this. https://www.securityweek.com/intezer-documents-powerful-lightning-framework-linux-malware [11:29] TR Bot Documents Powerful 'Lightning Framework' Linux Malware | SecurityWeek.Com [11:30] TR News FreeBSD Foundation: FreeBSD in Science Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167589 [11:30] TR Bot FreeBSD Foundation: FreeBSD in Science | Tux Machines [11:31] TR News So don't run this script. Nobody forces you to. https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28860 [11:31] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center [11:32] matey if ross from friends played a marxist caricature henchman working for dr evil, who was then asked to explain true crime (note ross worked in a museum of history and gave tours, and went to the william shatner school of acting) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Fyu-2JIetEM [11:33] TR Bot What is the Purpose of True Crime? | We're In Hell - Invidious [11:33] TR News Using Microsoft backdoorsware to do "research" into security is a gas! https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28872 [11:33] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center [11:34] TR News Microsofters @ sans dot edu :-) ... about the cult, about the back doors, not about security [11:35] matey i dont understand the costumes and they really really distract from the rest of the thing [11:35] matey theyve got to be an in joke of some kind [11:36] TR News SANS: let's use back doors OS in WINDOWS to "prove" SSH is 'dangerous'... [11:36] phanes reichwein's account from the case has what i view as a continuity defect in it. im too tired to process it. will come back to this later. [11:38] TR News A disturbing proportion of people in the US seem to have adopted the mindset of incest apologism https://www.vox.com/23271352/rape-and-incest-abortion-exception [11:38] TR Bot and incest exceptions in abortion bans arent common - Vox [11:41] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [11:41] TR News "I mentioned a new committer for DragonFly, Sergey Zigachev, recently. He hasnt shown in the commit logs for DragonFly directly cause hes fixing up dports. Im mentioning that because the amount of work that goes into dports to keep all those ports working on DragonFly is separate and unseen but necessary." https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2022/07/22/27213.html [11:41] TR Bot Where the (dports) action is DragonFly BSD Digest [11:44] TR News Contributing to Open Source Beyond Software Development Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167590 [11:44] TR Bot Contributing to Open Source Beyond Software Development | Tux Machines [11:45] TR News Glenn Greenwald on Tucker Carlson, Left-Wing Authoritarians, and Identity Politics https://reason.com/video/2022/07/21/glenn-greenwald-on-tucker-carlson-chelsea-manning-russia-and-big-tech/ Source: reason | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//reason.com/video/2022/07/21/glenn-greenwald-on-tucker-carlson-chelsea-manning-russia-and-big-tech/ [11:45] TR Bot Glenn Greenwald on Tucker Carlson, Left-Wing Authoritarians, and Identity Politics [11:47] TR News And why didn't BillBC mention Bill Gates' ties (very strong ties!) to Jeffrey Epstein? Because Famous Criminal Gates bribes BBC and it takes the bribes https://pressgazette.co.uk/sam-mcalister-newsnight-prince-andrew-bbc/ [11:47] TR Bot Sam McAlister on booking Prince Andrew and the BBC's class issue [11:50] TR News Paragraph REMOVED! "Lpez Obrador has repeatedly criticized the Biden administration, including decrying U.S. efforts to extradite Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from the U.K. for prosecution. 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Just because someone wishes to infect "Linux" with this thing doesn't mean it'll be feasible; with Windows there are back doors https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55138-linux-hit-by-a-rather-nasty-persistent-virus [12:02] TR Bot Linux hit by a rather nasty persistent virus [12:04] TR News This is not security but Linux (Microsoft) Foundation propaganda and stigmatisation that distracts from the back doors https://www.computing.co.uk/feature/4053287/about-sboms-moves-secure-software-supply-chain [12:04] TR Bot All about SBOMs: the latest moves to secure the software supply chain [12:06] TR News Proprietary software and sensationalising headlines, the usual from Gordon Kelly, basically naming how many people are estimated to use the software https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2022/07/21/google-chrome-high-level-vulnerabilities-discovered-windows-macos-linux/ [12:06] TR Bot Google Update Warning Issued For 3 Billion Chrome Users [12:07] TR News Forbes employs dishonest hacks, not journalists. Many of them are Microsoft/Bill Gates operatives, sans disclosure... 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We examine C's history and why it's still relevant." https://www.techtarget.com/searchapparchitecture/tip/A-quick-glance-at-the-history-of-C-programming-languages [12:11] TR Bot A quick glance at the history of C programming languages [12:18] TR News The Matrix Interoperated: Element fuses growth in open source messaging protocol Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167592 [12:18] TR Bot The Matrix Interoperated: Element fuses growth in open source messaging protocol | Tux Machines [12:21] matey "im not gonna do it by pretending that the enemies are on the same team as me"-- guy from tmz talking to kanye west, in response to [12:21] matey "400 years of slavery? that sounds liks a CHOICE" [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] coming soon, IBM marketing blitz [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] featuring kanye west [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] "we are not raysist"-ibm [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] they already coopeted the jamaican flag [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] after doing soime exploratory eugenics projects there [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] maybe that can hep game gulag search resulkts [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] icbm.. the champion of "wokeness" [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:30] schestowitz[TR2] \microsoft: the company of ETHICS [12:30] matey SIX MILLION dead? that sounds likes a CHOICE!-- ibm [12:30] matey you couldnt kill that many unless SOME of them were VOLUNTEERING [12:31] matey yknow? [12:31] matey i mean, its a sure path to misery in life to focus on the lives you DONT have [12:32] TR News "I read yesterday that there is a new release of Apache OpenOffice (4.1.13). Despite the news release, the new release is less than exciting - it mostly consists of minor bug fixes." gemini://nafmusings.smol.pub/new-openoffice-release [12:32] matey i dont want to pour gasoline. lets focus on the POSITIVES. [12:33] TR News Religious content in Gemini gemini://eph.smol.pub/1658648695 [12:36] schestowitz[TR2] Novell CEO, to me: [12:36] schestowitz[TR2] (via his attorney) [12:36] schestowitz[TR2] these articles are old [12:36] schestowitz[TR2] let's remove them [12:36] schestowitz[TR2] for being old [12:37] schestowitz[TR2] that's what "Right to be forgotten" is about [12:39] matey what are the positives of red hat? [12:39] schestowitz[TR2] it pays "journalists" [12:39] schestowitz[TR2] to lie for them [12:39] schestowitz[TR2] you know some of their names [12:40] matey those are positives? [12:40] TR News Why on Earth does Jack Wallen help Microsoft? TypeScript is vendor lock-in. Link omitted. [12:40] matey i guess journalists getting paid is technically a positive, when its out of context here [12:41] matey but i mean are there any real positives of red hat [12:41] TR News x86 defects prevent Linux from being released with sufficient time for proper testing https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yt0LbbTNZyrM0pVw@zn.tnic/ [12:41] TR Bot [GIT PULL] x86/urgent for v5.19-rc8 - Borislav Petkov [12:41] matey that should make us say "man, im so glad red hat is a thing in 2022" [12:43] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167593 [12:43] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:43] TR News GNU Parallel 20220722 (Roe vs Wade) released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167594 [12:43] TR Bot GNU Parallel 20220722 ('Roe vs Wade') released | Tux Machines [12:43] matey probably not many positives to focus on there [12:43] matey maybe focusing on the positives would be like trying to think of a reason what they did isnt really their fault [12:44] TR News NanoPi R4SE dual Gigabit Ethernet router adds 32GB eMMC flash - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/24/nanopi-r4se-dual-gigabit-ethernet-router-32gb-emmc-flash/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware | [12:44] TR Bot NanoPi R4SE dual Gigabit Ethernet router adds 32GB eMMC flash - CNX Software [12:46] TR News What is the fastest ARM SoC? https://dwaves.de/2022/07/24/what-is-the-fastest-arm-soc-geekbench-results-samsung-s21-ultra-how-to-send-android-apps-over-bluetooth-or-e-mail-how-to-backup-an-android-app-to-file/ [12:46] TR Bot What is the fastest ARM SoC? GeekBench results Samsung S21 Ultra & how to send Android Apps over Bluetooth (or E-Mail) & how to backup an Android App to file | dwaves.de [12:47] TR News Microsoft, like IBM, publishers a lot of lies about itself using complicit, BRIBED 'journalists'... I reckon IBM did this much earlier than Microsoft did [12:48] TR News IBM/ICBM is a company in rapid decline, but the corrupt media refuses to say so or has been too busy drowning out the few who do say so. And yes, the bribes from ICBM are easily provable. Microsoftis the same. [12:50] TR News A truth-teller surrounded by 99 liars would seem outlandish, out of touch, irrational. Democracy too isn't a popularity content when election are put on sale/auction for oligarchs. Nominations too. [12:51] TR News SJVN is not a journalism. Maybe he was until a decade ago. Now he's a coin-operated PR rep and ZDNet as well as Linux Foundation (yes, connection) are his "fixers"... [12:52] TR News James Zemlin and his wife Sheela Microsoft have probably done far more damage to GNU/Linux than any single person or couple at Microsoft, including Bill and Lolita Gates [12:53] TR News Notice the wording. Greg K-H (LF) is a slave of Intel. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Ys%2FbWIk0F5srkkpF@kroah.com/ follow the money... [12:53] TR Bot Re: RETBleed: WARNING: Spectre v2 mitigation leaves CPU vulnerable to RETBleed attacks, data leaks possible! - Greg Kroah-Hartman [12:55] TR News LF is like US elections. Zero monetary contribution? ZERO influence on code, policy etc. LF is a briber's laundry machine... a middleman between geeks who are meant to work on Linux... and the GPL infringer who abuse their work [12:55] TR News OSI is also a 'laundry machine' of Microsoft bribes http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/ [12:55] TR Bot In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 24 [13:07] *techuser (~techuser@ewst3uyndmu3k.irc) has joined #techrights [13:09] matey trumps pastor was norman vincent peale, the author of the power of positive thinking? [13:09] TR News The performance impact of various debug options on Fedora Rawhide debug kernels https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HRJT4UF35MRJ7C4ZXVHBFXB4BTW64YSO/ [13:09] TR Bot The performance impact of various debug options on Fedora Rawhide debug kernels - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists [13:10] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [13:23] TR News Linux Foundation does not work for Linux. Linux Foundation works for the Linux Foundation. Who is the Linux Foundation? Many companies that dislike Linux, barely tolerate the licence of Linux, and exercise control over this "threat" using the so-called 'Linux' Foundation. Check the board, Those seats are ON SALE. [13:24] psydroid2 what is happening with windows in norway and other countries? [13:24] psydroid2 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/norway#monthly-200901-202207 [13:24] TR Bot Operating System Market Share Norway | Statcounter Global Stats [13:26] psydroid2 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/turkey#monthly-200901-202207 [13:26] TR Bot Operating System Market Share Turkey | Statcounter Global Stats [13:28] matey #brokenwindowstheory [13:29] psydroid2 I wonder if it's just holiday season or some kind of marketing/bribery is going on [13:33] matey maybe, just possibly [13:33] matey the earth has flipped over [13:33] matey not in a bad way necessarily [13:33] matey definitely NOT in a good way [13:34] matey just... completely [13:34] matey sort of like a parallel universe [13:34] matey except (slightly) less weird [13:34] matey thats my theory, let me know what you find out [13:35] matey world has flipped-- explains everything pretty much [13:35] matey this year. or 2021. one of those. [13:35] matey second theory, different from the first [13:35] matey first theory (which was intended as tongue in cheek anyway) is actually result of [13:36] matey 1. heat wave [13:36] matey 2. lack of sleep [13:36] matey 3. instant coffee (too tired to make tea. whats tea? ohhh, caffiene. hi...) [13:36] matey so thats another theory [13:36] matey but i still like the first one. it could be that. [13:37] matey how much coffee do you have to drink before its basically the same as snorting coke? i dont know [13:38] matey /me considers standing on a coffee table, but then thats kanye. no, its tom. better leave the table alone. [13:43] *SkywaveC3 has quit (connection closed) [13:44] *SkywaveC3 (~SkywaveC3@vayqsuzqttqha.irc) has joined #techrights [13:51] matey "i also dont wanna be too mean to her, since i believe she was cursed by a vengeful spirit, so that everything she touches takes on a hideous pinterest aesthetic" [13:52] *techrights_guest|94 (~b992ceba@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:52] *techrights_guest|94 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [13:53] matey "kind of a 'king midas, if he was a quirky aunt' situation" [13:55] matey paint the outside black and the inside white and put some native american shit on it [13:55] matey then wait for the money to roll in [13:55] matey (what does this have to do with tech? ffs, this has GNOME written all the fuck over it) [13:56] matey gnome: kind of a ruthless get-rich-quick scam artist if they were quirky aunts who develop software and only care about big companies liking what they do [13:57] matey slash / ibm [13:57] matey or plus + ibm [13:57] matey 2 terabytes of icons? that sounds like a CHOICE [13:57] matey but if you try to uninstall them your applications go with [13:58] matey everyone knows that without icons [13:58] matey applications Will D-I-E [13:58] schestowitz[TR2] systemd-ood [13:59] schestowitz[TR2] syemedie-hard [13:59] schestowitz[TR2] buggy as hell [13:59] schestowitz[TR2] after 40 years (next year) of gnu [13:59] schestowitz[TR2] we cannot even do some basics right [13:59] matey systemdie-hard-2-cancel-stallman-with-a-vengeance [13:59] schestowitz[TR2] but Microsoft Lennart is working on it [13:59] schestowitz[TR2] for Microsoft salaries [13:59] schestowitz[TR2] no incentive to make it work well [13:59] schestowitz[TR2] his boss is selling WINDOWS [13:59] matey i guess youre going ot tease the microsoft lennart thing a bit longer before telling anyone what that is hmm ● Jul 24 [14:00] matey we cannot even do some basics right <- you mean like not hosting gnu projects on github? [14:01] matey ukraine: we have weapons to use against putlin! where should we put them to keep them safe [14:01] matey i dunno, how about the kremlin [14:01] matey great idea! [14:01] matey https://github.com [14:01] TR Bot Where the world builds software GitHub [14:01] schestowitz[TR2] builds for Microsoft [14:02] schestowitz[TR2] btw, gemini has a github proxy [14:02] schestowitz[TR2] afaik, the web lacks that [14:02] schestowitz[TR2] so far [14:02] schestowitz[TR2] linkedin shows mirosoft takles you to court over xcopies [14:02] matey ive been openly against a github proxy [14:02] schestowitz[TR2] after harvesting the data from the useds [14:02] matey because it doesnt mirror, so microsoft retains exactly the same amount of control (a proxy doesnt solve this problem) [14:02] schestowitz[TR2] matey: sometimes you have no choice [14:02] schestowitz[TR2] like with invidious [14:02] matey this isnt one of those [14:03] matey no, with video you cant mirror the massive massive content [14:03] matey with most github projects the real problem is people need to move [14:03] schestowitz[TR2] btw: http://techrights.org/2021/11/11/microsoft-hates-linux/ [14:03] TR Bot Halloween Documents in Gemini Space | Techrights [14:03] matey 10 months old, so [14:04] schestowitz[TR2] matey: that's not a mirror [14:04] schestowitz[TR2] it's converted on the fly [14:04] schestowitz[TR2] like wtih newsswaffle [14:04] matey that. is. my. point. [14:04] schestowitz[TR2] or the youtube gemini proxy [14:04] matey a proxy doesnt solve anything with github [14:04] matey you need mirrors. [14:04] matey the problem is microsoft controls the project [14:05] matey a proxy doesnt fix that [14:05] matey a mirror at least provides a copy they dont control [14:05] matey a proxy solves nothing here [14:05] matey right solution TO A DIFFERENT PROBLEM [14:05] matey thats why im against github proxies [14:05] TR News Links 24/07/2022: GNU Parallel 20220722 (Roe vs Wade) and Many SBC Projects | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/24/many-sbc-projects/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/24/many-sbc-projects/ [14:05] TR Bot Links 24/07/2022: GNU Parallel 20220722 (Roe vs Wade) and Many SBC Projects | Techrights [14:05] schestowitz[TR2] it's not the solutio [14:05] matey because they make idiots think something improved (when nothing did) [14:05] matey its not any kind of solution [14:06] schestowitz[TR2] but it can miigate a bit [14:06] matey mitigate WHAT [14:06] TR News Links 24/07/2022: GNU Parallel 20220722 (Roe vs Wade) and Many SBC Projects | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/24/many-sbc-projects/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/24/many-sbc-projects/ [14:06] schestowitz[TR2] matey: you not touching a Microsoft server [14:06] schestowitz[TR2] when there is no other option [14:06] matey thats not the problem with github [14:06] schestowitz[TR2] as some project decided to be just on there [14:06] matey the problem is the code is there [14:06] matey thats the problem [14:06] schestowitz[TR2] same for nitter [14:06] matey nitter is a different problem [14:07] matey nitter solves a different problem [14:07] schestowitz[TR2] niter is people [14:07] schestowitz[TR2] and with shithub it is people AND projects [14:07] matey with shithub its microsoft controlling the hosting of projects [14:08] matey with a proxy the same problem exists, but now theres a layer on top [14:08] matey but the problem is still there [14:08] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167595 [14:08] matey only now it feels like something has changed [14:08] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:08] matey whats the proxy called [14:08] matey gemhub? [14:08] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167596 [14:08] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [14:09] matey gitgem? gitini? [14:09] TR News Browsers and Standards Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167597 [14:09] TR Bot Browsers and Standards | Tux Machines [14:09] TR News Fedora Rawhide Performance / Red Hat Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167598 [14:09] TR Bot Fedora Rawhide Performance / Red Hat | Tux Machines [14:09] matey did they even name it [14:09] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167599 [14:09] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:09] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, NanoPi, and Lots More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167600 [14:09] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, NanoPi, and Lots More | Tux Machines [14:09] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/24/russia-confirms-strike-on-odesa-port-news "Russia confirms strike on Odessa port" [14:09] TR Bot . [14:10] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/microsoftless-github-access/ [14:10] TR Bot Checking and Downloading Projects Hosted in Microsofts Proprietary Code Prison (GitHub) Without Touching Microsoft Servers | Techrights [14:10] matey http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/rose-tinted-glasses-for-github/ [14:10] TR Bot ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/2022/07/09/rose-tinted-glasses-for-github/ ) [14:10] matey nothing more than that [14:11] matey really you could just colour one of your monitors with a pink marker pen [14:12] schestowitz[TR2] you can read the text and listen to the audio [14:12] schestowitz[TR2] but I did not call it "the" solution [14:12] schestowitz[TR2] the final solution is when github shuts down [14:12] schestowitz[TR2] and ballmer blows his brains out [14:13] schestowitz[TR2] and herr sixel cries [14:13] matey he doesnt strike me as being that much in favour of github [14:13] matey just completely neutral about it [14:13] matey which is still a bad thing imo [14:14] matey the final solution is when github shuts down <- so far thats the only solution [14:14] schestowitz[TR2] self-hosting is better [14:14] matey which means its not really a solution, its just waiting for a day when the problem magically fixes itself [14:14] schestowitz[TR2] but microsoft and other over-complicate git [14:15] schestowitz[TR2] having taken over key developers [14:15] matey self-hosting is better <- any hosting is better [14:15] schestowitz[TR2] and their salareies [14:15] schestowitz[TR2] or via [14:15] schestowitz[TR2] so self-hosting can becomne harder [14:15] matey even gitlab is better... its barely noticeable, sure, but technically its better [14:15] matey sort of [14:15] matey everybody needs as many git features as microsoft word [14:15] *SkywaveC3 has quit (connection closed) [14:16] matey therefore gitlab is the only real alternative, even though no sane person would opt for it [14:16] matey so while really, most things are better options [14:16] matey gitlab is the only "real" one [14:16] *SkywaveC3 (~SkywaveC3@j9g5epvemjxv2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:16] schestowitz[TR2] don't think so [14:16] schestowitz[TR2] linux doens't use it [14:16] matey or you could just host your project up the arse of a 100-foot rabid badger [14:16] schestowitz[TR2] gnome and kde use it a bit [14:16] matey at least its not microsoft [14:16] schestowitz[TR2] but don't have to [14:17] matey gitbadger is gonna be so epic [14:17] matey obviously security is built in [14:18] matey plus it has a special url feature [14:18] matey what it does is-- you have a gitbadger url for each project [14:19] schestowitz[TR2] "Gitea is the software weve decided to put our faith into" https://code.blender.org/2022/07/gitea-diaries-part-1/ | [14:19] schestowitz[TR2] new [14:19] TR Bot Gitea Diaries: Part 1 Blender Developers Blog [14:19] matey but when you go, it redirects to the github repo so you dont have to type in the github url [14:19] matey its not the solution, but it mitigates it [14:19] matey the first step of course is no one types in any more github urls [14:19] matey little by little... we get there [14:22] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:22] TR News [PATCH RFC v2 00/16] btrfs: add fscrypt integration - Sweet Tea Dorminy https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1658623319.git.sweettea-kernel@dorminy.me/ Source: dorminy | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1658623319.git.sweettea-kernel@dorminy.me/ [14:22] TR Bot [PATCH RFC v2 00/16] btrfs: add fscrypt integration - Sweet Tea Dorminy [14:29] *techuser (~techuser@eev6hfwssh84e.irc) has joined #techrights [14:40] TR News [PATCH v6 00/14] GSC support for XeHP SDV and DG2 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220724082428.218628-1-tomas.winkler@intel.com/T/ Source: intel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220724082428.218628-1-tomas.winkler@intel.com/T/ [14:40] TR Bot [PATCH v6 00/14] GSC support for XeHP SDV and DG2 [14:44] TR News Testing Limine Installer on a UEFI computer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167572#comment-34421 [14:44] TR Bot Limine Installer version 1.0 | Tux Machines [14:44] TR News "3DimViewer is a lightweight 3D viewer of medical DICOM datasets that is distributed as open source software. The viewer is multiplatform software written in C++ that runs on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux systems." https://medevel.com/3dimviewer-22/ [14:44] TR Bot 3DimViewer is an Open-source Free DICOM Viewer [14:45] TR News "The dicom or formerly "go-dicom" is a library and command-line tool to read, write, and generally work with DICOM medical image files in native Go." https://medevel.com/os-dicom-parser-for-go/ [14:45] TR Bot dicom: an Open-source DICOM Parser for The Go Language [14:46] TR News "InfCloud is a free open-source web-based CalDAV and CardDAV client that integrates both CardDavMATE and CalDavZAP in one platform. [...] GNU Affero General Public License (version 3.0)." https://medevel.com/infcloud/ [14:46] TR Bot InfCloud is an Open-source Self-hosted CardDAV and CardDAV client [14:48] TR News Popular Science has resorted to spam/wwebspam of diploma mills https://www.popsci.com/gear/linux-training-sale/ [14:48] TR Bot Save over $100 on this comprehensive Linux training | Popular Science [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 24 [15:01] matey the future: no car, no bus, no hotel, and no home-- only airbnb and uber [15:01] matey heres why https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WycFnXXj6h0 [15:01] TR Bot Stay Here: Gentrification and the Neoliberal City - Invidious [15:02] matey but its okay we can live in tents until they get slashed [15:07] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167601 [15:07] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:07] matey "while i do absolutely appreciate all the suggestions that i get, the problem with this is that... theres not really any commentary i can add about a show that the u.n. would unambiguouslyy classify as a war crime" [15:17] TR News 5 Best Free and Open Source Console-Based YouTube Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167602 [15:17] TR Bot 5 Best Free and Open Source Console-Based YouTube Tools | Tux Machines [15:21] MinceR https://apina.biz/178204.webp?mode=sfw [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/178204.webp [15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:34] *darwin has quit (connection closed) ● Jul 24 [16:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [16:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [16:03] matey "as you may or may not know, anti-freeze is not good for you" [16:14] Ariadne reason 9000000000 that amazon sucks, they let counterfeit books onto their market: https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/1550930876183166976?s=21&t=gpfPaZukSzYib-zSIvOwAA [16:14] TR Bot I've been asked about this a lot, so let me provide a quick FAQ. Q: What's the nature of the issue? A: Anyone who https://t.co/pNaB8zXwvY [16:14] TR Bot I've been asked about this a lot, so let me provide a quick FAQ. Q: What's the nature of the issue? A: Anyone who https://t.co/pNaB8zXwvY [16:15] Ariadne https://nitter.net/fchollet/status/1550930876183166976?s=21&t=gpfPaZukSzYib-zSIvOwAA [16:17] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:22] XRevan86 Ariadne: One would think a company as big as Amazon would have this sorted out. [16:22] XRevan86 What is this, Wildberries, Ltd.? [16:23] matey amazon has zero fucks to give [16:24] matey they pass the savings onto bezos, the costs onto authors and share the profits with the cottage industry frauds [16:24] matey i LOVE book piracy. dont do very much of it. but this is just nasty, for-profit scamming (and amazon of course, still profits from it) [16:25] matey i LOVE book piracy <- you know, "sharing" [16:25] matey thats not what this is [16:26] matey this is you buy a book from scam artists, for the retail price, you get shit, and the author gets nothing, and only frauds get paid [16:26] matey i cant think of a single good thing about it [16:26] matey PLUS amazon [16:27] Ariadne book piracy is fine, not everyone has the ability to pay for books [16:27] Ariadne this is just scamming though [16:27] matey yep [16:28] Ariadne and it disincentivizes releasing books under libre [16:28] matey and amazon doesnt care because its cheaper or even (short term) profitable to let the scammers just do whatever [16:28] Ariadne theres a lot of books where the book itself is under creative commons or GFDL or whatever [16:28] matey and it disincentivizes releasing books under libre <- maybe amazon is banking on it helping drm too [16:28] Ariadne but if the author gets fucked over on sales due to this shit [16:28] matey i mean theyre the ones that made drm on BOOKS an everyday thing [16:29] matey which is exactly why i stoppped being an amazon customer 16 years ago when that bullshit started [16:29] Ariadne then they might rethink that for future books [16:29] Ariadne yeah i dont buy books from amazon [16:29] matey amazon does nothing they arent forced to do. the unions will have to care about this for it to change [16:29] matey i dont buy books from amazon <- good idea [16:29] Ariadne there is a shop in seattle called adas technical books which has better pricing tbh [16:30] matey yeah they play games with prices that dont really help the authors or customers [16:30] matey w3hich isnt surprising, because amazon is all about exploiting both [16:30] matey i should say all three [16:30] Ariadne id be mad if i paid 150 bucks for a book and got some counterfeit bullshit version tho [16:30] matey amazon is all about exploiting workers, authors and customers [16:31] matey id be mad if i paid 150 bucks for a book and got some counterfeit bullshit version tho <- even bezos himself might think "wow, thats like what i make in 0.0000-- OH! back to making money!" [16:32] matey maybe authors will band together to tell people not to buy any books from amazon [16:32] matey it probably wont be that epic, but it would be cool if they did [16:33] matey one of the main reasons weird al offered "dont download this song" as a free download was to call attention to the fact that the customer-demonising labels werent even paying artists ANYTHING for streaming revenue [16:34] matey while moving so many things to streaming-- for which artists get exactly 0 (depending on whatever factors etc etc etc) [16:34] matey so theyre like "customers are denying revenue to artists!" [16:34] matey weird al: "WHAT revenue?" [16:35] MinceR https://apina.biz/190493.png?mode=sfw [16:37] XRevan86 MinceR: Simplified. [16:38] XRevan86 It implies that Russia holds one position at a time, which is almost never true. [16:40] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [16:41] MinceR :> [16:42] psydroid2 oops, they did it again [16:44] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1551229056586244100 [16:44] XRevan86 "In case you come across a Westerner claiming that Russia wants to negotiate a peaceful resolution of their invasion and we just don't know about it, here is the head of Russia's biggest state media group and a head of State Duma's Defense Committee to tell you otherwise. #Chomsky" [16:45] matey It implies that Russia holds one position at a time <- putin is doing downward dog in a bunker, while everyone else is doing stretch up on your toes to see over the iron curtain [16:47] XRevan86 I meant a different thing: that Russian propaganda doesn't care about internal consistency, it only cares about poking holes in what everyone else is saying. [16:48] matey I meant a different thing: that Russian propaganda doesn't care about internal consistency, it only cares about poking holes in what everyone else is saying. <- that sounds a LOT like this website that i go to a lot [16:52] matey of course people (being organic) are rarely 100% consistent [16:52] matey we paint with the all the colours of the wind, you know [16:52] matey but honest people have a certainly level of consistency [16:52] matey and bullshit... doesnt have to [16:53] XRevan86 matey: Honesty hooks to the objective world, so it has to resemble it at least somehow. [16:54] matey people do impressions though [16:54] XRevan86 Bullshit is like fiction, and that is hard to keep the record straight of. [16:54] matey yep [16:55] matey which is why people who integrate science fiction into their lives like its not fiction get so irritated when youre like "midichlorians" [16:55] matey "what?" [16:55] matey "midichlorians" [16:55] matey "fuck you!" [16:56] XRevan86 Is Bible science fiction? [16:56] matey its got a dude who can fly and hes immortal and he can talk to invisible people [16:56] XRevan86 But maybe it's more like a fantasy. [16:56] matey sounds more like fantasy genre, but a lot of stores lump them together (or make them neighbours) [16:57] matey yep [16:57] XRevan86 s/a (fantasy)/\1/ [16:57] matey if they do it again, jesus should have a unicorn named holiah [16:58] matey and they can go on quests to heal the sick and make people feel bad for being stupid douchebags [16:58] matey "behold! you have been stupid and a douche. repent! and try not to be a cunt all the time" [16:58] matey "thank you jesus!" [16:58] matey "holiah... away!!" [16:58] XRevan86 matey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynocephaly#Saint_Christopher [16:58] XRevan86 At least they have that. [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [16:59] XRevan86 > The late 10th century German bishop and poet Walter of Speyer portrayed St. Christopher as a giant of a cynocephalic species in the land of the Chananeans (Canaan in the New Testament) who ate human flesh and barked. Eventually, Christopher met the Christ child, regretted his former behavior, and received baptism. He, too, was rewarded with a human appearance, whereupon he devoted his life to Christ [16:59] XRevan86 ian service and became an Athleta Christi, one of the military saints. ● Jul 24 [17:00] matey jesus might be a superhero, but if he is he shirks a bit [17:00] matey it could also be a murder mystery [17:01] matey the romans did it, but everyone thinks it was the jews [17:01] XRevan86 "rewarded with a human appearance" <- That's speciesism. [17:01] XRevan86 matey: No, they say that Jews are enablers. [17:01] XRevan86 For some reason that's worse. [17:02] matey then jesus is like "but im a jew!" and everyone else is like "really?" [17:02] matey "you always seemed a bit new agey to me" [17:02] matey we could all be singing together and holding hands, and the adl would find something wrong with it [17:04] XRevan86 matey: I'm pretty sure Anti-Semitism is the root cause of the blame, not the other way around. [17:04] XRevan86 If more people were Anti-Italian, then Romans would've been to blame. [17:04] XRevan86 But Romans are highly regarded, so they're off the hook. [17:18] *CrystalMath (~coderain@yjibrje8645sk.irc) has joined #techrights [17:23] matey matey: I'm pretty sure Anti-Semitism is the root cause of the blame, not the other way around. <- that may very well be [17:24] matey im only suggesting the adl is insane about an issue that would matter either way [17:24] matey theyre sort of like the peta of racial justice [17:25] matey when people talk about peta im like fuck that, support a real organisation like the aspca or the international-- i believe they have international chapters [17:25] matey peta is nuts-- i dont hate animals [17:27] MinceR (cat) https://apina.biz/190276.jpg?mode=sfw [17:31] TR News Decrypting MIME multipart messages in Rmail gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-07-24%20Decrypting%20MIME%20multipart%20messages%20in%20Rmail [17:32] TR News SpellBinding: GHYLMTI Wordo: FLING gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/new.gmi [17:32] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [17:32] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! 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[17:56] techuser I think there were some discussions about having children on this channel [17:57] techuser someone find them and send links to cuddlybear66 [17:57] cuddlybear66 haii [17:57] TR News There is a project to recreate the Prodigy online service https://lunduke.substack.com/p/there-is-a-project-to-recreate-the Source: lunduke [17:57] TR Bot There is a project to recreate the Prodigy online service [17:58] techuser hi [17:58] techuser there should be pages with logs [17:58] techuser will try to find them [17:59] TR News Writing and Running a BBS on a Macintosh Plus - joshua stein | jcs https://jcs.org/2022/07/15/kludge Source: jcs | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jcs.org/2022/07/15/kludge [17:59] TR Bot Writing and Running a BBS on a Macintosh Plus - joshua stein | jcs ● Jul 24 [18:00] schestowitz[TR2] techuser: there are logs for these channels going back to 2008 [18:00] schestowitz[TR2] complete logs [18:00] schestowitz[TR2] online [18:00] schestowitz[TR2] when you were a toddler [18:00] techuser cuddlybear66: https://techrights.org/category/irc-logs/ I guess [18:00] TR Bot IRC Logs | Techrights [18:00] techuser ignore the "bad" certificate [18:00] schestowitz[TR2] yeah [18:01] schestowitz[TR2] or use http [18:01] techuser cuddlybear66 is 16 I think [18:01] schestowitz[TR2] the logs since 2020 are in gemini:// also [18:01] schestowitz[TR2] techuser: techrights turns 16 in November [18:01] techuser she probably has no idea about Gemini [18:02] techuser why do you say Mibbit may have "privacy risks", but KiwiIRC not? [18:03] TR News Lies, damned lies and survey results - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/lies-damned-lies-and-survey-results/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/lies-damned-lies-and-survey-results/ [18:03] TR Bot Lies, damned lies and survey results - Michael West [18:03] techuser > Ensure JavaScript is enabled to use the embedded facility above. | and ensure you pass the Cloudflare CAPTCHA [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] iirc, mibbit sold some data [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] so then freenode dumped them [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] wikiic is two things [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] the software [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] and the site [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] if you self-host it, you are in control [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] but it has some ugly deps [18:04] techuser were there bigger log files? [18:04] schestowitz[TR2] it's vue.js [18:04] techuser like monthly logs? [18:04] schestowitz[TR2] no [18:04] schestowitz[TR2] monthly would be too large [18:04] schestowitz[TR2] in 2022 the #techrights logsd alone are about 15 MB a month for html [18:04] schestowitz[TR2] maybe 7mb for plain text [18:04] schestowitz[TR2] similar for .gmi versions [18:05] techuser I don't remember when exactly there children talks happened here [18:05] schestowitz[TR2] I cannot recall what you allude to [18:05] schestowitz[TR2] some people use srong words here [18:05] schestowitz[TR2] but there is no pr0n or gore here [18:06] techuser someone did say about giving birth to children, then having it taken away and one imprisoned for "not providing good living conditions for it" [18:06] techuser iirc it was here and not elsewhere [18:06] schestowitz[TR2] I can imagine who said it [18:06] schestowitz[TR2] in some states it is the law [18:07] schestowitz[TR2] I know online people who lost custody of their kids [18:07] schestowitz[TR2] for bogus reasons, not neglect [18:07] schestowitz[TR2] or denied visitations [18:07] schestowitz[TR2] "thank you for the sperm, not stay away from your own child or I call the cops" [18:07] techuser and I don't remember if it was me or someone else saying that one's life is becoming more difficult/less freedom once kids appear [18:07] schestowitz[TR2] /not/now/ [18:08] techuser cuddlybear66: I guess you can now say something on it [18:08] schestowitz[TR2] techuser: I'm surprise you cannot remember if it was something you said or someone else [18:08] schestowitz[TR2] life always gets harder once kids arrive at the home (as in born) [18:08] schestowitz[TR2] toddlers cannot help around the house [18:09] techuser I have bad memory, maybe because COVID-19 or something else [18:09] techuser it may have hit my memory back then [18:09] schestowitz[TR2] you grew up in tough times [18:09] schestowitz[TR2] war in ukraine, lockdowns, inflation, food availability perils [18:09] schestowitz[TR2] some parents make kids like trophies [18:09] schestowitz[TR2] and quit caring once the kids are born [18:10] techuser giving birth to children for this... and then die in a war [18:10] schestowitz[TR2] or when the head/body ratio is no longer "cute" [18:10] schestowitz[TR2] so they neglect them [18:10] schestowitz[TR2] some animals let the offspring off the nest too at a young age [18:10] schestowitz[TR2] I think I solved the issue with the multi-clicking [18:11] schestowitz[TR2] barrier was running off too much swap [18:12] TR News Sea of buzzworsd, FB SPAM in a respected (used to be!) journal https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/24/1054817/yann-lecun-bold-new-vision-future-ai-deep-learning-meta/ [18:12] TR Bot Yann LeCuns big bet for building intelligent machines | MIT Technology Review [18:12] techuser IRC is better than children [18:13] TR News The Fight Over Which Uses of [computer programs] Europe Should Outlaw https://www.wired.com/story/europe-law-outlaw-ai/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/ [18:13] TR Bot Fight Over Which Uses of Artificial Intelligence Europe Should Outlaw | WIRED [18:13] TR Bot A Soup of Buzzwords From Brussels (the European Commission) | Techrights [18:13] schestowitz[TR2] techuser: irc is safe for children [18:13] schestowitz[TR2] because you cannot have creeps sending you pics and stuff [18:13] schestowitz[TR2] I started using irc at age 13, IIRC [18:13] schestowitz[TR2] chatted with other kids around thr world [18:14] techuser sending links still works though [18:14] schestowitz[TR2] if they click [18:14] techuser "protect the children" is an excuse for censorship and reducing children's rights [18:14] schestowitz[TR2] in the 1990s these issues were "niche" [18:15] schestowitz[TR2] and parents did not worry about that sort of thing [18:15] schestowitz[TR2] not sure if that atually got worse [18:15] schestowitz[TR2] or the panic itself got worse [18:15] schestowitz[TR2] even in the 1990s there were perverts online [18:15] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@km3w6imixyp52.irc) has joined #techrights [18:15] schestowitz[TR2] benefit of the doubt: I'd say it DID get worse [18:16] techuser I think it would cause some issues when the children see the real world for the first time [18:16] schestowitz[TR2] and now parents can lose custody of kisds for just asking them to go to the shop nearby on their own [18:16] schestowitz[TR2] when I was 13 I took a taxi on my own [18:16] schestowitz[TR2] cause I missed the bus [18:16] schestowitz[TR2] in 2022 it's unthinkable and shocking [18:16] techuser these children will have issues growing up, and may have mental health issues [18:18] TR News Facebook as espionage operation of the US government https://themarkup.org/pixel-hunt/2022/06/16/facebook-is-receiving-sensitive-medical-information-from-hospital-websites [18:18] TR Bot Facebook Is Receiving Sensitive Medical Information from Hospital Websites The Markup [18:18] schestowitz[TR2] techuser: I think we chatted about this a couple of years ago [18:18] MinceR (no audio) https://apina.biz/190428.mp4?mode=sfw [18:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190428.mp4 [18:18] schestowitz[TR2] how overprotective regimes and parents do this [18:18] schestowitz[TR2] making the kids unable to mature [18:20] TR News Soon 2022 capsules online that Lupa knows of.. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [18:20] techuser "we" didn't include me anyway [18:20] techuser I appeared on techrights IRC no earlier than somewhere in 2021 [18:21] TR News Sybil Attacks on Airdrops https://matt-rickard.com/sybil-attacks-on-airdrops/ Source: matt-rickard | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//matt-rickard.com/sybil-attacks-on-airdrops/ [18:21] TR Bot Sybil Attacks on Airdrops [18:21] schestowitz[TR2] techuser: right [18:22] schestowitz[TR2] but therer is a broadly spread age group here [18:22] schestowitz[TR2] always was [18:22] schestowitz[TR2] some people here died of old age [18:22] schestowitz[TR2] to tech rights/civil rights issues, kids arwe a "nuisance" [18:22] schestowitz[TR2] because politicians exploit them [18:23] schestowitz[TR2] and pass bullshit laws that aren't even meant to protect kids [18:23] schestowitz[TR2] and some of those kids are not even kids [18:23] schestowitz[TR2] a lot of Internet and Web filters are sold this way [18:23] techuser may cause depopulation I think. The kids who never seen a real world, will they be able to marry and reproduce? [18:24] schestowitz[TR2] while the mainstream bullshit pushes stuff that's actually proven to hurt kids [18:24] schestowitz[TR2] like Facebook [18:24] techuser people talk about "incels" these days [18:24] schestowitz[TR2] there is also fertility aspect [18:24] schestowitz[TR2] set aside affording to raise kids [18:24] techuser maybe the world government wants to reduce the amount of humans on Earth [18:24] schestowitz[TR2] incels is an excuse [18:25] schestowitz[TR2] it's like the way they call terrorists people with "mental issues" [18:25] schestowitz[TR2] like they are "rotten apples" [18:25] schestowitz[TR2] some of them are just devour religious [18:25] schestowitz[TR2] that's their actual mental issue [18:25] schestowitz[TR2] capitalists don't want fewer people [18:26] schestowitz[TR2] more people, more workers, m debt,. more consumption [18:26] schestowitz[TR2] they want control [18:26] schestowitz[TR2] social control [18:26] schestowitz[TR2] at scale [18:27] schestowitz[TR2] surveillance, curfews, military drafting, obligatory "school".. [18:27] schestowitz[TR2] when I gre up kids did not have mobile phones [18:27] schestowitz[TR2] they existed [18:27] schestowitz[TR2] but not for kids [18:27] schestowitz[TR2] now they are leashes on the neck of every teen [18:27] schestowitz[TR2] tracked and mentally farmed f [18:27] schestowitz[TR2] for mental signals [18:27] schestowitz[TR2] and brainwashed [18:28] schestowitz[TR2] mostly studied, then programmed [18:28] schestowitz[TR2] via devices [18:28] TR News Why Open Access To The ACM Digital Library Matters | Associations Now https://associationsnow.com/2022/07/the-way-things-were-why-open-access-to-the-acm-digital-library-matters/ Source: associationsnow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//associationsnow.com/2022/07/the-way-things-were-why-open-access-to-the-acm-digital-library-matters/ [18:28] TR Bot Why Open Access To The ACM Digital Library Matters | Associations Now [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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My concern is that even if thats true, theyd do so much more by directing their funding and action towards systemic change." https://rubenerd.com/philanthropy-only-attacks-the-symptoms/ [18:33] TR Bot Philanthropy only attacks the symptoms [18:34] TR News Raptor says the Blackbird crunch ends in August (and maybe Arctic Terns too) https://www.talospace.com/2022/07/raptor-says-blackbird-crunch-ends-in.html Source: talospace | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.talospace.com/2022/07/raptor-says-blackbird-crunch-ends-in.html [18:34] TR Bot Raptor says the Blackbird crunch ends in August (and maybe Arctic Terns too) [18:35] TR News Bunch of clowns, buzzwords, hype and cryptic acronyms that refer to something very, vewwwwwwy owwwwlddd... https://matt-rickard.com/iac-strength-or-weakness-for-cloud-providers/ [18:35] TR Bot IaC: Strength or Weakness for Cloud Providers? [18:38] TR News Limine bootloader introduction page http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167572#comment-34422 [18:38] TR Bot Limine Installer version 1.0 | Tux Machines [18:39] TR News Steinar H. Gunderson on AV1 live streaming: Exploring SVT-AV1 rate control https://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2022-07-24-15-40_av1_live_streaming_exploring_svt_av1_rate_control.html Source: sesse | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2022-07-24-15-40_av1_live_streaming_exploring_svt_av1_rate_control.html [18:39] TR Bot Steinar H. Gunderson [18:40] TR News "How The Fuck Did Feynman Get Here !? Ive been re-rereading stories about Feynman again. People decry that no such geniuses exist today, they oft seem to decry the fact that no physicists since has developed such a thirst for understanding and beautiful ability to abstract for others." https://www.epistem.ink/p/how-the-fuck-did-feynman-get-here [18:40] TR Bot How The Fuck Did Feynman Get Here !? - by George [18:41] *forkbombe (~forkbombe@u89vdyv4abg8n.irc) has joined #techrights [18:41] TR News Banksters exploiting scientists to seem legit https://matt-rickard.com/shannons-demon/ [18:41] TR Bot Shannon's Demon [18:42] TR News Robots were in warehouses for many years already https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/business/warehouse-technology-robotics.html [18:42] TR Bot Robots Arent Done Reshaping Warehouses - The New York Times [18:43] TR News "With modular components and an easy-to-use 3D interface, this interactive design pipeline enables anyone to create their own customized robotic hand" https://news.mit.edu/2022/hand-robotic-manipulator-design-0525 [18:43] TR Bot A helping hand for robotic manipulator design | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology [18:44] TR News "GMail, before I gave up on its frankly appalling spam filter, used to pull the same trick on me. I have a lot of email folders, and this requires a scrollbar, which apparently would give me cancer if I saw it before I went hunt the scrollbar with my mouse in its general direction." https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/07/17/modern-technology-please-stop-trying-to-be-helpful/ [18:44] TR Bot Modern Technology: Please stop trying to be helpful Cliffski's Blog [18:46] *KiKi_ has quit (connection closed) [18:47] TR News Robbing Australia: profits soar for gas giants, royalties and tax languish - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/robbing-australia-profits-soar-for-gas-giants-royalties-and-tax-languish/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/robbing-australia-profits-soar-for-gas-giants-royalties-and-tax-languish/ [18:47] TR Bot Robbing Australia: profits soar for gas giants, royalties and tax languish - Michael West [18:48] TR News So what, so NetBSD users too can become SLAVES of criminals from Microsoft? https://rubenerd.com/netbsd-can-also-run-a-minecraft-server/ [18:48] TR Bot NetBSD can also run a Minecraft server [18:49] TR News "I am typing this text in Emacs running on the Raspberry Pi B, logged on from my Acer Aspire." http://box.matto.nl/the-old-computer-challenge-2022.html [18:49] TR Bot Old Computer Challenge 2022 - box.matto.nl [18:50] TR News "The SAFE Submarine Cable Landing Station at Baie Jacotet was declared a restricted area through Government Notice 183 of 2004. The decision was taken by the cabinet on 8 October 2004 and the SAFE SCLS at Baie Jacotet has been a restricted area since 11 November 2004 in accordance with Section 13B of the Police Act." https://sysadmin-journal.com/baie-jacotet-scls-a-restricted-area/ [18:50] TR Bot Baie Jacotet SCLS, a restricted area [18:51] TR News Military-First Approach.. proxy war with "outsourced" cannon fodder https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/16/biden_pledges_new_1_billion_ukraine [18:51] TR Bot $1B More in U.S. Military Aid to Ukraine: Weapons Expert Urges Negotiation vs. Military-First Approach | Democracy Now! [18:52] TR News "Juneteenth (Emancipation Day or Jubilee Day, as it was called in most early accounts) is a celebration of the news that informed Black people throughout Texas that the institution of slavery had been abolished" https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/16/juneteenth-reparations-reclaiming-stolen-stories [18:52] TR Bot From Juneteenth to Reparations: Reclaiming Our Stolen Stories - YES! Magazine [18:53] TR News Aadhaar advisory: the continuing saga of UIDAIs breach of privacy rights The Leaflet https://theleaflet.in/aadhaar-advisory-the-continuing-saga-of-uidais-breach-of-privacy-rights/ Source: theleaflet | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//theleaflet.in/aadhaar-advisory-the-continuing-saga-of-uidais-breach-of-privacy-rights/ [18:53] TR Bot Aadhaar advisory: the continuing saga of UIDAIs breach of privacy rights The Leaflet [18:57] MinceR (no audio) https://apina.biz/190407.mp4?mode=sfw [18:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190407.mp4 [18:58] *matey has quit (connection closed) [18:58] TR News Sounds like a fantasy: "I turned around, and both my sister and my smartphone were gone." https://rubenerd.com/a-dream-without-a-phone/ these devices do more harm than they help, on many levels [18:58] TR Bot A dream without a phone [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 24 [19:00] psydroid2 Velociraptor Mortuus will be selling DeadPOWER again Soon(TM) [19:04] schestowitz[TR2] ICBMachine [19:04] schestowitz[TR2] threee, two, one... ignition [19:05] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:06] *Techrights-sec is now known as ts2 [19:06] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [19:07] TR News "Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says he is open to sensible changes to the governments climate reform, but will not buckle under pressure from the Greens to increase the 43% emissions reduction target. Michael West on Albos first two months in office and the looming climate clash." https://michaelwest.com.au/albo-returns-from-his-honeymoon-bumps-into-adam-bandt/ [19:07] TR Bot Albanese returns from his honeymoon, bumps into Adam Bandt - Michael West [19:08] TR News Does Troy Hunt talk about bribes from Microsoft? https://www.troyhunt.com/if-youre-not-paying-for-the-product-you-are-possibly-just-consuming-goodwill-for-free/ [19:08] TR Bot Troy Hunt: If You're Not Paying for the Product, You Are... Possibly Just Consuming Goodwill for Free [19:09] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [19:09] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [19:09] TR News Verifone POS hacking - th0mas.nl https://th0mas.nl/2022/07/18/verifone-pos-hacking/ Source: th0mas | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//th0mas.nl/2022/07/18/verifone-pos-hacking/ [19:09] TR Bot POS hacking - th0mas.nl [19:10] TR News "Raku is a great software language that draws on the scripting heritage of perl. The newly minted raku Dan modules provide Data ANalytics (geddit?) capabilities to raku for data science and engineering use cases. (Intro slides & demo video here). This is one in an occasional series of blog posts that seek to explore the whys & wherefores of raku Dan." https://p6steve.wordpress.com/2022/07/24/is-raku-dan-rubbersonic/ [19:10] TR Bot Is raku Dan RubberSonic? Physics::Journey [19:12] TR News Slackware LibreOffice 7.3.5 and updates for Chromium 103 (also -ungoogled) https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/libre-office-7-3-5-and-updates-for-chromium-103-also-ungoogled/ [19:12] TR Bot Libre Office 7.3.5 and updates for Chromium 103 (also -ungoogled) | Alien Pastures [19:12] TR News GNOME Radio 16 on GNOME 42 Presentation at GUADEC 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167603 [19:12] TR Bot GNOME Radio 16 on GNOME 42 Presentation at GUADEC 2022 | Tux Machines [19:13] TR News DNA Typewriter Taps Out a Record Inside Cells | HHMI https://www.hhmi.org/news/dna-typewriter-taps-out-record-inside-cells Source: hhmi | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.hhmi.org/news/dna-typewriter-taps-out-record-inside-cells [19:13] TR Bot DNA Typewriter Taps Out a Record Inside Cells | HHMI [19:13] TR News Servers, now clown https://matt-rickard.com/the-quick-uptake-of-arm-on-cloud/ [19:13] TR Bot The Quick Uptake of ARM on Cloud [19:14] TR News Smart this, smart that. Usually means mass surveillance https://staceyoniot.com/want-a-connected-home-without-a-cloud-get-smarter-sensors/ [19:14] TR Bot Want a connected home without a cloud? Get smarter sensors. - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [19:15] TR News Even "self-hosted" smart [sic] home occasionally helps spy on you if connected to a device like a "phone" that sends some data upstream, maybe without you even being notified [19:16] TR News "HEY HI" BS everywhere, even IEEE Spectrum. They call everything "HEY HI" now https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/07/will-ai-remove-submarine-stealth.html [19:16] TR Bot The Eponymous Pickle: Will AI Remove Submarine Stealth? [19:17] TR News "Scott Morrison has is already enjoying the perks of life as an ex-prime minister, turning up in Seoul last week to hobnob with other has-beens such as [far right] Mike Pence" https://michaelwest.com.au/the-ex-files-where-is-the-life-for-discards-of-the-parliamentary-bubble/ [19:17] TR Bot The Ex-Files: where is the life for discards of the parliamentary bubble? - Michael West [19:18] TR News Analyze Your Amazon Data with Python - Earthly Blog

    Read more [19:18] TR Bot Analyze Your Amazon Data with Python - Earthly Blog [19:19] TR News Grafana Loki and what can go wrong with label cardinality https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/GrafanaLokiCardinalityProblem [19:19] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/GrafanaLokiCardinalityProblem [19:22] TR News Good Bye Peugeot --- Hello Alfa MiTo and 75 gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220724-bye-peugeot-hello-alfa.gmi [19:24] TR News I think the number of unique IPs in Techrights Gemini capsule doubled since last year, but don't track this closely. Sure thing is, number of Gemini users keeps growing. [19:25] TR News Gemini is a big middle finger to the few companies which treat WWW (EME etc.) as merely a transport layer for their array of malware [19:26] TR News "Humans are social animals, and it seems reasonable to assume that any transhuman condition we can wrap our minds around will also be a social one for most of its participants." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/07/crimes-against-transhumanity.html [19:26] TR Bot Crimes against Transhumanity - Charlie's Diary [19:28] TR News Oligarchs who say we should 'colonise' other planets dwell in luxuries they know only THEY can afford instead of fixing this planet (they don't mind if the rest are left to burn or starve here). Not too shockingly, the same sociopathic people who hop from one wife to the next without trying to repair what they already had. [19:29] TR News Code Breaker: Meet the Man Who Virtually Invented Computer Art - ELEPHANT https://elephant.art/code-breaker-meet-the-man-who-virtually-invented-computer-art-25052022/ Source: elephant | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//elephant.art/code-breaker-meet-the-man-who-virtually-invented-computer-art-25052022/ [19:29] TR Bot Code Breaker: Meet the Man Who Virtually Invented Computer Art - ELEPHANT [19:30] TR News In a Post-Roe World, the Future of Digital Privacy Looks Even Grimmer - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/personaltech/abortion-privacy-roe-surveillance.html Source: nytimes | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/personaltech/abortion-privacy-roe-surveillance.html [19:30] TR Bot In a Post-Roe World, the Future of Digital Privacy Looks Even Grimmer - The New York Times [19:31] TR News Humans are cruel, very selfish animals https://news.wsu.edu/press-release/2022/06/01/automated-drones-could-scare-birds-off-agricultural-fields/ [19:31] TR Bot Automated drones could scare birds off agricultural fields WSU Insider [19:33] TR News This is an interesting quote: "i dont support any sectarian ideology including LGBTQ." https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/07/18/white-supremacists-violently-target-pride-events/ "sectarian ideology" is the wrong term though, conflating militant elements with a condition [19:33] TR Bot White Supremacists Violently Target Pride Events neritam [19:34] TR News For Indigenous Peoples, Abortion Is a Religious Right - YES! Magazine https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/30/abortion-indigenous-peoples-reproductive-health Source: yesmagazine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/06/30/abortion-indigenous-peoples-reproductive-health [19:34] TR Bot For Indigenous Peoples, Abortion Is a Religious Right - YES! Magazine [19:34] TR News Surveillance inside homes https://staceyoniot.com/did-the-iot-doom-connected-devices-in-the-home/ [19:34] TR Bot Did the IoT doom connected devices in the home? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [19:36] TR News ICBM has basically 'donated' its code to Microsoft's proprietary software prison https://www.datanami.com/2022/07/18/ibm-research-open-sources-deep-search-tools/ [19:36] TR Bot IBM Research Open-Sources Deep Search Tools [19:37] TR News Proprietary voting machines ought not be used in the first place https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1105848096/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript [19:37] TR Bot Transcript: The fourth Jan. 6 committee hearing on its investigation : NPR [19:37] TR News Patents and patent greed https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/23/world_trade_organization_covid_patent_monopolies [19:37] TR Bot Global Access to COVID-19 Vaccines & Tests Limited by WTO Deal Pushed by Rich Countries & Big Pharma | Democracy Now! [19:39] TR News Marketing predators try to paint their sinister agenda as a science https://towardsdatascience.com/modeling-marketing-mix-using-smoothing-splines-98dc8e84c367?gi=70cab53e99d8 [19:39] TR Bot Modeling Marketing Mix Using Smoothing Splines | by Slava Kisilevich | Jul, 2022 | Towards Data Science [19:41] TR News "Anyone whos read one or two of my Long Links curations knows that Im fascinated by the ongoing conundra in Astrophysics and Cosmology on the subject of Dark Matter. There are a couple of recent developments that are worth noting." https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/07/18/Long-Dark-Matter-Links [19:41] TR Bot ongoing by Tim Bray Dark Matter Fun [19:42] TR News "Employees who switched jobs during the pandemic received salary bumps and permission to work remotely. Those perks are now under threat." https://www.wsj.com/articles/tech-workers-long-got-what-they-wanted-thats-over-11657877406 [19:42] TR Bot Workers Long Got What They Wanted. Thats Over. - WSJ [19:43] TR News "43% of this nation, 52% of the children, 68% 60% of Black people, 33% of 30% of white people, 68% of Latinos, and so forth and so on, 87 million people who are uninsured or underinsured" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/17/poor_peoples_campaign_2022_washington_march [19:43] TR Bot Poor Peoples March on Washington Saturday Demands Moral Reset on Poverty, Voting Rights, Climate | Democracy Now! [19:45] TR News "I dont know if this would work well in a team setting. My metafile examples all fall into two categories: metafiles that represent different possibilities for the same file (debug, profiling, optimization), and ones which represent a set of different files (versions, compilation targets)." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/on-metafiles/ [19:45] TR Bot On Metafiles Buttondown [19:46] TR News "In Germany, there have been repeated cases of contradictory election target group" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/new-rules-on-political-advertising-to-stop-voter-manipulation/ [19:46] TR Bot New Rules on political advertising to stop voter manipulation! Patrick Breyer [19:55] TR News "Every time someone tried to connect, it tried to do its job, but because there was nothing to back it, it could not. I felt sorry for the little Dyno. I did not have the heart to simply turn it off." https://asylum.madhouse-project.org/blog/2022/07/18/the-story-of-byr/ [19:55] TR Bot The story of Byr - Asylum [19:57] TR News "I wonder how many other colour photos from the turn of the century are out there? Id love to see them." https://rubenerd.com/autochrome-lumiere-mauretania/ [19:57] TR Bot Autochrome Lumire Mauretania [19:57] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:58] TR News Coalition cowardice over environment report - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/coalition-cowardice-over-environment-report/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/coalition-cowardice-over-environment-report/ [19:58] TR Bot Coalition cowardice over environment report - Michael West [19:59] TR News Stable Kernels: 5.18.14 and 5.15.57 ? Tux Machines ? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167604 [19:59] TR Bot Stable Kernels: 5.18.14 and 5.15.57 | Tux Machines ● Jul 24 [20:01] TR News [PATCH 5.10 000/148] 5.10.133-rc1 review https://lwn.net/ml/linux-kernel/20220723095224.302504400@linuxfoundation.org/ [20:01] TR Bot 5.10 000/148] 5.10.133-rc1 review [LWN.net] [20:02] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [20:02] TR News "In his book On Writing, Steven King talks about where he gets ideas. Its a common question, I think, for anyone who writes steadily. I know people have asked me, How do you find stuff to write about? What King says resonates with me: I dont go out seeking ideas, they whiz by me all day; Ive just gotten better at recognizing them." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/finding-stuff-to-write-about/ [20:02] TR Bot Finding Stuff to Write About - Jim Nielsens Blog [20:03] TR News When courts become political offices with endless terms and no elections https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/07/05/supreme-court-legitimacy-2 [20:03] TR Bot The Supreme Courts Crisis of Legitimacy - YES! Magazine [20:05] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:05] TR News "Funny to see what kind of head-banging creating concoction of talk Zini delivered to DebConf 2022. Obviously, no lesson learned, no reflection on their own failures to act properly. Always putting forth their private animosities over objective reasoning." https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/07/enrico-zini-on-dam-and-responsability/ [20:05] TR Bot Enrico Zini on DAM and "responsability" | There and back again [20:10] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [20:11] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167605 [20:11] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:11] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167606 [20:11] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:11] TR News Software: sq, InfCloud, dicom, 3DimViewer, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167608 [20:11] TR Bot Software: sq, InfCloud, dicom, 3DimViewer, and More | Tux Machines [20:16] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:23] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:28] *techuser (~techuser@a93s2ag8u5j44.irc) has joined #techrights [20:37] TR News Links 24/07/2022: sq 0.27.0 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/24/sq-0-27-0-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/24/sq-0-27-0-released/ [20:37] TR Bot Links 24/07/2022: sq 0.27.0 Released | Techrights [20:37] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167609 [20:37] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:37] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167610 [20:37] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:37] TR News Hardware Hacking and Modding Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167611 [20:37] TR Bot Hardware Hacking and Modding | Tux Machines [20:37] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167612 [20:38] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [20:39] schestowitz some company trying to bribe me: [20:39] schestowitz " [20:39] schestowitz Hi Roy, [20:39] schestowitz Hope you had a nice weekend. Just checking in to see if you've got any interest in reviewing the super-smart self-emptying Dreame D10 Plus robot vacuum/mop. [20:40] schestowitz " [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] The same person also offered a laptop for "review" [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] sad thing is, [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] a lot of reviews you find online are fake [20:42] schestowitz[TR2] by people who accept these bribes [20:46] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [20:46] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [20:51] TR News This is inane, mindless jingoism from John Gruber https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/07/23/apple-silicon-inconvenient-truth [20:51] TR Bot Daring Fireball: Apple Silicon Is an Inconvenient Truth [20:51] TR News LOL. "Apple silicon is a profoundly inconvenient truth for many computer enthusiasts who do not like Macs, so theyve gone into denial, like Fox News cultists and climate change. Its that simple"... what next? Calling people who aren't Apple customers "Apple deniers"? [20:52] TR News "Bluetooth is an open industry standard"... err, no, John Gruber. It's a bloody PATENT CARTEL and it introduces security problems. Hype for gimmicks. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/07/23/bluetooth-unusually-painful [20:52] TR Bot Daring Fireball: CNN: Why Bluetooth Remains an Unusually Painful Technology After Two Decades [20:54] TR News John Gruber = Apple clergy. If you don't buy Apple, you are an infidel and on par with climate science deniers! [20:57] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@emhq579846782.irc) has joined #techrights [20:57] TR News "It's been a long time since the altruistic early webputting content out there for the its own sake. The web doesn't feel transactional anymore, either. If I could put a label on the current state of things, it feels extractive." https://ericwbailey.design/writing/saying-thank-you/ [20:57] TR Bot Saying thank you Eric Bailey [20:58] DaemonFC The fact that Debian went to WIPO to get the name instead of to an American court of law is.....unsettling. [20:58] TR News I wrote a new track... Finally! gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/07/24-new-track.gmi [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] DaemonFC US-based domains shouldn't be subject to some "international organization". It should have to be argued in an American court using American trademark laws. [20:59] TR News "Thank you, team Ardour, I really love this DAW. (Compiling it required a dirty hack. If you try to compile version 6.9.0 and it fails, let me know, I will share my dirty hack.)" gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/07/24-new-track.gmi [20:59] DaemonFC I actually looked into why WIPO claims to have jurisdiction over Americans, and of course it was Bill Clinton. ● Jul 24 [21:00] schestowitz[TR2] bruce perens said the debian trademark should be in the public domain [21:00] DaemonFC Are there any top-level domains that are beyond WIPO? [21:00] DaemonFC Maybe we should provide a list about that. [21:00] schestowitz[TR2] WIOPO is corrupt [21:00] schestowitz[TR2] iirc, they also went after mjg at one point [21:00] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO [21:00] TR Bot WIPO - Techrights [21:00] schestowitz[TR2] WIPO just works for oligarchy [21:01] schestowitz[TR2] more so than typical tribunals [21:01] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/wiki/Francis_Gurry [21:01] TR Bot Francis Gurry - Techrights [21:01] DaemonFC Yes, but like patent trolls going after Microsoft, that doesn't necessarily mean the concept of patent trolls is a good thing just because it blows up on the bad guys sometimes. [21:01] DaemonFC It benefits them more often than it blows up in their face, so they continue pushing it. [21:01] schestowitz[TR2] blow up in their fake? [21:01] schestowitz[TR2] does it bankrupt them>? [21:01] schestowitz[TR2] no [21:02] schestowitz[TR2] it bankrupts the small guys [21:02] schestowitz[TR2] Biden and Trump BAIL OUT Microsoft [21:02] schestowitz[TR2] so even if they "lose" they just enrich some lawyers [21:02] schestowitz[TR2] and keep on going [21:02] DaemonFC It hits them for millions of dollars sometimes, but that's small potatoes compared to how it benefits them overall. [21:02] schestowitz[TR2] yes [21:02] schestowitz[TR2] like the patent system [21:02] DaemonFC They can just pass on the loss to people who don't even want to be their "customer" such as forcing them to buy Windows licenses whether they want to or not, or ever use it, and jacking up the price to reflect the losses to patent trolls. [21:02] schestowitz[TR2] anyway, bill clinton did nafta iirc [21:03] schestowitz[TR2] he also spent some time in no-man\'s land [21:03] schestowitz[TR2] lolita express [21:03] schestowitz[TR2] maybe with that other bill too at some point [21:03] schestowitz[TR2] uncle bil [21:03] schestowitz[TR2] aka "creepy" [21:03] schestowitz[TR2] bbl [21:03] DaemonFC NAFTA was "bipartisan". When they say something is "bipartisan" it means they've found something that everyone agrees is horrible to pass unanimously. [21:03] DaemonFC It means really watch out. [21:04] DaemonFC What's going to be hilarious.....I was considering this in the car, is when all of these white male tech workers finally get what they "want" and women, like immigrants, start flooding into the tech sector too. [21:05] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [21:05] DaemonFC And they can finally figure out what it's like to get laid off en masse or watch their wages flatline for decades until they're like auto mechanics or factory workers. [21:05] DaemonFC Making $15-20 an hour, like they were 10-15-20 years ago. [21:06] DaemonFC The corporate types always want MORE of a labor pool to draw from because it gives the workers less negotiating power. [21:07] DaemonFC When there are double the amount of people who can do that job, why should they give you a fair paycheck, lots of vacation time, good health insurance, huge retirement plan match, and a free cafeteria and childcare center? [21:07] DaemonFC There's going to be 10 people just like you whether it's H1-B or "women" or something. [21:07] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:07] DaemonFC So they can hide their assault on labor power under the guise of "diversity and inclusion". [21:07] DaemonFC And the fact that Debian is doing these tells you they're being "controlled". [21:08] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:09] DaemonFC Suddenly those men who were getting all these great job perks and their spouse didn't have to work at all will end up with shitty wages and their spouse is forced into the jobs market, they'll have health insurance where the deductible goes up another $1,000 a year just like everybody else, and both their employers will say childcare is "not our problem". Go figure it out on what your job... [21:09] DaemonFC ...paid 15 years ago. [21:10] DaemonFC They're promoting something that will hurt themselves terribly. They learned nothing from watching it happen to, say, automotive workers. [21:11] DaemonFC schestowitz It's Corporate America that always wants something for nothing. Take the birth rate for example. They're super pissed nobody is having kids, but they don't pay enough to even entertain the idea, and they're saying they'll pay your travel expenses to get an abortion. [21:11] DaemonFC So they create the problem, then they complain about it. [21:13] DaemonFC People aren't happy with the way their lives are going. They're not happy that their family lineage comes to an unceremonious dead-end while Bill Gates considers human life to be viruses with legs that should be sterilized and driven into such poverty that the only way to keep anything is to not reproduce. [21:13] DaemonFC But at the same time, they do nothing to fight it. [21:13] *psydroid2 is surprised no one has tried to take out Bill Gates yet [21:14] DaemonFC The Gates Foundation hasn't improved a single human life in a single country it has operated in. More often than not, it does unethical experiments on millions of people who go to the news later and say how sad they are that they bought into it. [21:14] DaemonFC The Gates Foundation lies worse than Trump. Going to Africa and telling them circumcision would make them totally immune to HIV. [21:15] DaemonFC 98% of men in the US are circumcised and the 8 or so men I know with HIV are all circumcised. [21:15] DaemonFC And those African men that got snipped said that they threw caution to the wind because the Gates Foundation said "totally immune" and many of them have HIV now, and it's caused an explosion of other diseases. [21:16] DaemonFC And where is Saint Bill of Gates? Not talking about it. That's where he is. [21:16] *phebus has quit (Quit: POKE 1,0) [21:17] DaemonFC Somehow, millions of people, a large number of which can't read at all, manage to sign consent forms that are written by attorneys from the Gates Foundation. [21:17] DaemonFC psydroid2is surprised no one has tried to take out Bill Gates yet [21:17] DaemonFC He's not well liked even in the United States where his corrupt media presence is worse than it is anywhere else. [21:18] DaemonFC At least from what I've managed to ascertain. [21:19] DaemonFC He focuses most of the media corruption on the English-speaking world. Maybe that's just because he doesn't need it elsewhere. [21:19] MinceR http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2450 [21:19] TR Bot Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 07/19/2022 [21:19] DaemonFC It costs almost nothing to corrupt officials in developing countries. [21:19] DaemonFC In Mexico, if you have twenty bucks, most cops will look the other way and take a cigarette break. [21:19] DaemonFC So you can imagine what their politicians are like. [21:20] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights [21:20] DaemonFC Mexico is not a safe place for Americans to be. The kidnappings are really the least of it. [21:20] DaemonFC The police are usually in on it, whatever "it" is. [21:22] DaemonFC They can be "bad" in America, it's not unheard of for cops to be "on the take", but it's not so out of control that the military often has to come in and disarm the entire police force so they can take over law enforcement without being shot in the back. [21:22] DaemonFC The problems going on that are pouring over the border with Mexico are incidental lately. [21:22] DaemonFC It's China by proxy. [21:23] DaemonFC They want to poison Americans with fentanyl and get the money back without having to admit that it's where it's all coming from. [21:24] DaemonFC I honestly believe that the fentanyl trafficking has the backing of the Communist Party in China. There's not much that goes on in China unless they're allowing it. [21:25] DaemonFC Whoever wrote the latest DEA report on this problem was saying that Xi has plans to "crack down" on it, which just means that the DEA is repeating Communist propaganda. The Chinese government has no intention of shutting that down. Too much money. [21:26] DaemonFC The worst part about Biden's presidency is that things are actually getting so bad in this country it's like something out of the Old Testament unfolding on Sodom and Gomorrah, and where is the President? [21:26] DaemonFC Off eating ice cream cones. [21:27] MinceR instead, you could have a president who is _causing_ the problems :> [21:28] DaemonFC The Democrats and Republicans have turned this place into "Sodom and Gomorrah". If you look, actually read what kind of moral corruption was at work there in Leviticus, it wasn't about homosexuality. It was exactly what Democrats and Republicans are up to here. [21:29] DaemonFC Being uncharitable to strangers was actually the worst of it, apparently. Okay, the Republicans have nailed that. It's called Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Patrol. [21:29] DaemonFC Then moving on, you had all sorts of sexual perversions. Too many to list, just every kind of perversion. Democrats. To top it all off, if you get pregnant, just kill it. Right up to the time of birth. [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:30] DaemonFC A person who says they are a biblical person could not support any of this, yet still 78% of Americans say they are Christians, and this happens. [21:30] DaemonFC Someone's electing them! [21:32] DaemonFC There's never really a mention of homosexuality as such in the account of God destroying Sodom and Gomorrah. It was being uncharitable to foreigners and "general sexual perversion" where the last straw was the villagers attempting to rape the angels sent to Lot's house. [21:33] DaemonFC And so it was really just this "general corruption". It got beaten into an anti-gay narrative just by people who are morally corrupt themselves and don't like gays. [21:33] DaemonFC MinceRinstead, you could have a president who is _causing_ the problems :> [21:33] DaemonFC Oh but he is! [21:34] DaemonFC I have a post about ready to go up about how disgusting some gay men are. [21:34] DaemonFC With the whole Monkeypox outbreak. [21:34] DaemonFC Like, 95% of the problem is gay men on Grindr fucking their way across Europe and Thailand, just like AIDS. [21:35] DaemonFC Going "Don't blame us! Anyone can get it! Theoretically! I knew there was something off about that one guy's dick! Maybe that's where I got Monkeypox!" [21:35] DaemonFC "Or maybe they weren't bleaching the sex swing at that bathhouse in Hamburg." [21:36] DaemonFC How is anyone supposed to react to stories like this where the "news", NBC in this case, interviews 18 gay men with Monkeypox, and it's all things like this, and at least one of them freely admits he already had HIV? [21:37] DaemonFC Nobody knows what to tell the contact tracers, because they didn't know any of those men well enough to get even their first name. [21:37] DaemonFC And if you say anything at all about how nasty this Grindr thing is and how disgusting the majority of the people on it are, you're a homophobe. Even if you're gay. [21:38] DaemonFC In my opinion, men like this are like NAMBLA. At least the majority of gay men knew what to do with NAMBLA when they were trying to crash PRIDE events. Punch them in the face and drag them out by the collar. [21:39] DaemonFC Only with these people, you don't want to touch them. It's like the Borg, only with Monkeypox. [21:39] DaemonFC :) [21:39] DaemonFC Of course Chicago is an epicenter of the Monkeypox pandemic in the United States. It's gross. It's just so gross. To say nothing about there being a bathhouse there. [21:40] DaemonFC I have never been to a bathhouse in my life. I know what goes on in there. People sniffing "poppers" and letting 20 men they don't know fuck them until they're so loose that it's probably like throwing a hotdog through a football stadium. [21:41] DaemonFC Then they're on NBC going "I can't believe all these lesions on my asshole! Can you!?" How did it happen? Who "nose"? Too soon? :) [21:42] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:42] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:43] DaemonFC But how did Biden add to this problem? Despite all of these nasty fucks who are just never going to go away, there's a Smallpox vaccine stockpile in the US with enough doses for everyone. [21:43] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:43] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:43] DaemonFC Rotting away in government warehouses while Biden, Chuck, and Nancy invest in a company that has a patented vaccine that nobody has ever used before. Then they buy those. [21:44] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:45] DaemonFC And then you have these idiot "public health officials" in Chicago saying "Do you have skin? You can get Monkeypox!". Okay, well, that's not untrue, but I'm also not rubbing up against random strangers from Grindr and then surprised later if I'm covered in lesions. I'm not doing that. [21:45] DaemonFC So there's like almost no risk. [21:52] DaemonFC "When AIDS was new, public health experts that asks for the bathhouses in San Francisco to be shut down, where gay men went as the "Grindr" of the time (some still do), mainly to do drugs and each other, those people got booed off the stage. [21:52] DaemonFC Worse, many gay men accused AIDS of being "trumped up" by the Reagan Administration to "put gay men back in the closet". [21:52] DaemonFC Yes, the first AIDS deniers were gay men who didn't want to cope with the mess they got themselves into, and later came the people who wanted to sell worthless supplements. Many of the AIDS deniers who got AIDS were the first to die, since you can't treat a disease you won't even admit you have. [21:52] DaemonFC Instead, the gay men in the 1980s blamed a Republican President that they just didn't happen to like already, and said that anyone who told them to stop having unprotected sex and wear a condom, and shut down the bathhouses was being "sex negative" and "homophobic", and they didn't spare gay men who just wanted to put a lid on the AIDS crisis and save lives." [21:53] DaemonFC "There's absolutely no reason to expect that to change now that the new pandemic is Monkeypox." [21:54] DaemonFC "There will be victims of Monkeypox who didn't bring it on themselves." [21:54] DaemonFC "The media is drawing attention away from the people who should get the vaccine first. Healthcare professionals, school children (shared playground equipment, toys, etc.), not people who go on sex vacations across Europe, Thailand, and the Philippines, and use Grindr." [21:54] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:55] DaemonFC "The "gay community" has known that there were way worse things out there than Monkeypox since the AIDS crisis, 40 years ago, and I'll bet you most or all of the men in the NBC article didn't wear a condom." [21:55] DaemonFC "Not that they bothered to report such, because it would just confirm that these people are as gross as you suspected already." [21:56] DaemonFC "Monkeypox is just going to be another animal at the zoo by the time our idiot President is finished eating ice cream cones while it spreads across the United States. " [21:57] DaemonFC "If they cared about this being a "global emergency", Biden, Chuck, and Nancy would open up the government warehouses and get the forklifts rolling and get the Smallpox vaccine rolling out. We know it's safe. My mom had to take it in 1963 when it was a routine childhood vaccination." [21:58] DaemonFC "Another upside would be, if Putin and Xi decide to throw the United States into further chaos by releasing a Smallpox pandemic onto us, we'll already be vaccinated. " [21:58] DaemonFC "(Although I believe such a situation is unlikely. Diseases are hard to control. The Chinese couldn't stop COVID-19 even with all the options of having a brutal Communist dictatorship on the table. It was far easier for them to control the narrative by throwing out journalists from free countries.)" ● Jul 24 [22:00] DaemonFC "Something that is mostly going around among a bunch of slobs that the media digs up that are all on a gay f**k app, and the healthcare professionals unlucky enough to have to take care of them when they show up and want their lesions tended to, just doesn't sound like a me problem at this point in my life." [22:08] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://apina.biz/58648.gif?mode=sfw [22:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/58648.gif [22:08] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [22:10] AdmFubar https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/07/massive-losses-define-epidemic-of-pig-butchering/ [22:10] TR Bot Massive Losses Define Epidemic of Pig Butchering Krebs on Security [22:29] AdmFubar https://www.livemint.com/news/world/ai-gone-wrong-chess-robot-breaks-child-s-finger-at-russia-tournament-11658674872366.html [22:29] TR Bot AI gone wrong? Chess robot breaks child's finger at Russia tournament | Mint [22:31] MinceR "A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing." [22:31] MinceR not for long! [22:34] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:39] AdmFubar wookies aren't the only thing that will tear your arm off if they lose [22:43] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:44] phanes im not passed doing that [22:48] MinceR war droid vs wookiee "chess" match [22:49] *matey (~matey@jzj9x4geudeuw.irc) has joined #techrights [22:51] techuser hi [22:52] matey hi [22:52] matey i assume youve seen this by now: https://www.abuseonline.org/ [22:52] TR Bot TAODB [22:53] matey the thing phanes is working on [22:53] techuser don't remember such website [22:53] matey oh its one of the people in here [22:53] techuser I don't actively read logs [22:53] matey idk how long its been online, fairly new though [22:53] matey basically tracking cancel culture [22:54] matey like cancelculturepedia [22:54] matey thats what it looks like so far at least [22:54] phanes not quite [22:54] matey no? [22:54] phanes its to address specifically serial defamers in foss [22:54] matey oh ok [22:54] matey so more limited in scope [22:56] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:56] phanes if someone actually did something and it winds up on the site it doesn't deserve an entry unless its listed as a pattern of behaviour that invovles defamation or is linked to defamation in other places on a timeline [22:57] phanes like [22:57] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/grandmai [22:57] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - GrandmAI [22:58] phanes lets say matey is killing homeless people in his free time and someone publishes a video of it -- that wouldn't get an entry unless its an action by someone involved in acts of defamation elsewhere, and it is listed as a controversial association [22:58] phanes that said [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [22:59] phanes it will probably not be unheard of for "controversial associations" to later get moved to serial defamation categories as details unfold, this happens sometimes, we think its a legitimate action that later turns out to be defamation ● Jul 24 [23:00] matey and how does that shift happen [23:00] matey like what does it look like when you go "oh, hmm. actually..." [23:00] matey because ive rarely seen that firsthand [23:00] phanes mv $action_listing_parent $defamation_directory [23:00] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:00] matey oh sure [23:00] matey yeah [23:01] matey i meant in a more observational sense, but that works [23:01] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:01] matey can you think of an example [23:02] phanes matey, so as im going through some events, i am looking at one that the details just don't add up and its looking more and more like systematic defamation by one person cast as a collaborative effort. I keep it as a linked controversy for the time being, but, when I have enough credible documentation to assert that it is defamation -- if it gets to that point -- I will move it to the parent dir and write a summary linking to the sources [23:03] matey thats pretty straightforward [23:04] phanes that eventually evolves to a body of documentation that systematically breaks down the whole thing and exposes the problems [23:06] DaemonFC schestowitz Is there a way I could easily transfer my blogging to Gemini? [23:06] phanes in some cases we may not be able to say "this is defamation" but when it's clear that it is we can do a credibility rating [23:07] matey that should be interesting [23:07] phanes im sure the retaliation will provide additional content :) [23:07] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: you can host it from your laptop [23:08] matey win win [23:12] TR News On Sarcasm - boz.com https://liveboz.substack.com/p/on-sarcasm?r=71ygg&utm_medium=ios Source: liveboz | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//liveboz.substack.com/p/on-sarcasm?r=71ygg&utm_medium=ios [23:12] TR Bot On Sarcasm - boz.com [23:13] TR News Update: base64dump.py Version 0.0.23 https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/07/19/update-base64dump-py-version-0-0-23/ [23:13] TR Bot Update: base64dump.py Version 0.0.23 | Didier Stevens [23:14] TR News Update: sortcanon Version 0.0.2 https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/07/20/update-sortcanon-version-0-0-2/ [23:14] TR Bot Update: sortcanon Version 0.0.2 | Didier Stevens [23:19] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [23:20] TR News Delete All the "Apps". Better yet, stop using "smart" phones https://current.workingdirectory.net/posts/2022/dont-panic-organize/ [23:20] TR Bot Jamie McClelland | Deleting an app won't bring back Roe v Wade [23:20] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [23:22] TR News How to Switch From Debian Stable to Debian Testing https://www.makeuseof.com/switch-from-debian-stable-to-testing/ Source: makeuseof | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/switch-from-debian-stable-to-testing/ [23:22] TR Bot How to Switch From Debian Stable to Debian Testing [23:22] TR News Getting Started with WiFi on Raspberry PI Pico W and MicroPython https://peppe8o.com/getting-started-with-wifi-on-raspberry-pi-pico-w-and-micropython/ Source: peppe8o | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//peppe8o.com/getting-started-with-wifi-on-raspberry-pi-pico-w-and-micropython/ [23:22] TR Bot Getting Started with WiFi on Raspberry PI Pico W and MicroPython [23:24] TR News unlockR - Stupid Simple App to Remove PDF Password in Linux & Windows Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167614 [23:24] TR Bot unlockR - Stupid Simple App to Remove PDF Password in Linux & Windows | Tux Machines [23:27] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/24/thoughts-on-monkeypox-as-experts-recommend-vaccination-to-gay-men-first-plus-why-monkeypox-is-in-the-media-in-the-first-place/ [23:27] TR Bot Thoughts on Monkeypox as experts recommend vaccination to gay men first. Plus: Why Monkeypox is in the media in the first place. BaronHK's Rants [23:27] DaemonFC "The states could just buy all of the contact tracing data from Grindr about who youve been having sex with. No warrant. Grindr does sell it. To anyone. The state doesnt want to spook people by admitting it can contact trace that way, I guess. [23:27] DaemonFC Immigration and Customs Enforcement buys a ton of data from these app companies. [23:27] DaemonFC The government knows everything it cares to, because youre leaking it all over the place. They just dont want to make it so obvious that it creeps you out. You getting Monkeypox isnt really a problem for them. [23:27] DaemonFC I was talking to a Chicago Police Detective about Grindr and he said they love Grindr because they can just serve Grindr with a warrant and get all kinds of stuff and that they do it all the time. [23:27] DaemonFC Thats in addition to the fact that undercover cops hide out on it. [23:27] DaemonFC Like the majority of smartphone apps and social networks, Grindr is effectively an arm of the state. Why would the state cut off their arm?" [23:28] DaemonFC 2793 words [23:28] DaemonFC :) [23:29] TR News Poor sports: how Morrison put a shark bite on the taxpayer - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/scott-morrison-rugby-league-rorts/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/scott-morrison-rugby-league-rorts/ [23:29] TR Bot Poor sports: how Morrison put a shark bite on the taxpayer - Michael West [23:29] DaemonFC And that's after I cleaned up and edited it and took out some parts that were redundant. [23:30] TR News "Koch Industries spent $3.1 million in the first three months of the Trump administration, largely to ensure confirmation of Scott Pruitt as head of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)." https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/thomas-mcgarity-on-trump-and-the-fall-of-law-and-order-for-corporations/ [23:30] TR Bot Thomas McGarity on Trump and the Fall of Law and Order for Corporations [23:30] DaemonFC Still spotting things. [23:31] DaemonFC schestowitz It's almost impossible to do long posts and not have things jump out every time you read it. [23:32] TR News There Is No Bar But Having One is Good Too - Jim Nielsens Blog https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/there-is-no-bar-but-having-one-is-good-too/ Source: jim-nielsen | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/there-is-no-bar-but-having-one-is-good-too/ [23:32] TR Bot There Is No Bar But Having One is Good Too - Jim Nielsens Blog [23:32] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/thorn [23:32] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Thorn [23:33] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:34] TR News "Today, an email landed on the AFRINIC Resource Policy Discussion list, in which a subscriber accuses the CEO of AFRINIC, Eddy Kayihura, of trying to ask a governmental body to interfere with AFRINIC's independent procedure for electing Board Directors." https://sysadmin-journal.com/afrinic-ceo-eddy-kayihura-reaches-out-to-the-african-telecommunications-union-for-potential-board-directors/ [23:34] TR Bot AFRINIC CEO, Eddy Kayihura, reaches out to the African Telecommunications Union (ATU), for potential Board Directors [23:34] DaemonFC schestowitz Back when people used NNTP, I didn't need to have home Internet to participate in conversations. [23:35] DaemonFC I just connected to the library and downloaded that day's messages, and went home and browsed, and compiled some replies, and used the library in a day or two to get back to them. [23:35] DaemonFC Like e-mail. [23:36] DaemonFC Mitchell Baker wasn't wrong about e-mail dying. Fewer and fewer people use it to communicate. [23:36] TR News The Webb Space Telescopes Profound Data Challenges - IEEE Spectrum https://spectrum.ieee.org/james-webb-telescope-communications Source: spectrum | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//spectrum.ieee.org/james-webb-telescope-communications [23:36] TR Bot The Webb Space Telescopes Profound Data Challenges - IEEE Spectrum [23:36] DaemonFC More often lately, it's spam from Chili's that I can go in for free chips and salsa with a $20 minimum purchase. [23:38] TR News "Govt pushing for BankID completely unquestioned. Everyone needs a Google account to be a citizen, is where were headed." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/svt-vs-cloud [23:39] TR News Win thrown away in France? gemini://freeshell.de/f1/2022-07-24_Win_thrown_away_in_France_.gmi [23:47] DaemonFC schestowitz I don't know how the police are so successful on Grindr. [23:47] DaemonFC "Oh this is a random box that popped up in a smartphone app..... Sure I'll admit I'd do something illegal!"