●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 24, 2022 ●● ● Sep 24 [00:07] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:07] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:07] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], 5.8% rent hike in the end. That surprised me. He's listing identical units at 23% more. [00:08] schestowitz[TR] still a lot [00:09] DaemonFC Yes, but Biden, man. [00:09] DaemonFC I guess there's no way to move. [00:09] schestowitz[TR] move where? [00:09] DaemonFC Even if we wanted to, the next cheapest option I've seen listed is hundreds more. [00:09] DaemonFC Well, within Waukegan of course. [00:18] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:24] MinceR (cat) https://apina.biz/50616.jpg?mode=sfw [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/50616.jpg [00:29] *bnchs (~bnchs@d6z5m8eebs5f4.irc) has joined #techrights [00:31] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:34] *bnchs (~bnchs@d6z5m8eebs5f4.irc) has joined #techrights [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 147.33 ● Sep 24 [01:14] immibis_ DaemonFC: welcome to capitalism! work harder, slave. [01:16] MinceR silence, mind-slave! [01:17] DaemonFC I'm watching Star Trek: DS9. I think they tried to pin a bunch of Russian attributes to the Cardassians in retrospect. [01:17] schestowitz[TR] slave derived from "slav" [01:17] DaemonFC The most Russian-like one is how horribly they built Terok Nor (DS9) itself. [01:18] DaemonFC The computer is happy that everything is within "ideal" parameters because the Cardassian specifications allow for up to a 21% loss of efficiency before it's "unacceptable". [01:18] XRevan86 DaemonFC: The only thing I've read as Russian from the Cardassians was their law system. [01:18] DaemonFC Of course, based on the Russian military equipment (have to fire 300 missiles to have 1 hit) the reality is the Russian stuff is even worse than that. [01:19] DaemonFC The US has either always hit what it was targeting or has successfully aborted the missile. [01:19] DaemonFC Even when we blew up the Chinese embassy that one time. [01:19] DaemonFC B-) [01:19] MinceR Keeping Up With the Cardassians [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] XRevan86 DaemonFC: The Russian army accept 100% loss of efficiency, so what's the correlation? [01:20] DaemonFC The statement that the missile went off course was obviously a cover story. The Chinese embassy in Belgrade was relaying intelligence to the other side in the war. [01:21] MinceR perhaps the russian military used to be better [01:21] DaemonFC So we blew it up and then "settled" with them for not a lot of money and a sort of sorry/not sorry. [01:21] MinceR or the star trek authors thought it wasn't as bad as it was [01:21] MinceR or they thought nobody would believe it or take it seriously [01:21] XRevan86 MinceR: Hard to say, besides, the farther back in time the more understandable the lack of accuracy. [01:21] DaemonFC "Whoops, well, it *is* a war and these things happen." [01:21] DaemonFC "How's $3 million sound?" [01:22] DaemonFC :D [01:22] DaemonFC Even Putin isn't crazy enough to try something like THAT. [01:23] DaemonFC He knows that we of course would have the, reaction, of handing Ukraine those longer range HIMARS they've wanted and they'd be down, oh.....several military outposts and a $4 billion dollar bridge to Crimea shortly. [01:24] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:24] DaemonFC The threat of using nuclear weapons is a bluff. [01:24] DaemonFC The United States had that option, of course, in the Vietnam War. [01:24] XRevan86 DaemonFC: The cost of the bridge is mostly corruption, so the costlier the better. [01:24] MinceR DaemonFC: how do you know it's a bluff? [01:25] DaemonFC We could have destroyed the seat of government in North Vietnam and watched the Communist regime collapse if we were willing to kill hundreds of thousands of people to do that. [01:25] MinceR remember, a crazy fundie made that threat [01:25] XRevan86 MinceR: He's not a fundie. [01:25] MinceR afaik in the time of the vietnam war, both the usa and the ussr had saner leadership than today [01:25] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [01:25] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [01:25] MinceR XRevan86: how do you know? [01:26] DaemonFC After 20 years of the war not going well, nuking Ho Chi Minh city wouldn't have been such a crazy option. [01:26] XRevan86 MinceR: Because he's always been hypocritical about use of the church as a tool. [01:26] DaemonFC If the government will never surrender, then the threat of there being nobody to formally surrender isn't really a threat. [01:26] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [01:26] XRevan86 MinceR: He's been cheating on his wife. He doesn't care. [01:26] DaemonFC XRevan86> MinceR: Because he's always been hypocritical about use of the church as a tool. [01:27] MinceR XRevan86: and how do you know the tenets of his personal religion? :> [01:27] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [01:27] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [01:27] XRevan86 MinceR: A fundie of a personal religion? [01:27] DaemonFC Like that time Trump had the National Park Police tear gas the protesters so he could walk across the street and pose for a picture of himself with an upside down bible outside of a church he'd never been inside of? [01:27] XRevan86 MinceR: What is fundamental about that? [01:27] DaemonFC No, can't say anything like that's ever happened in America. :) [01:28] MinceR XRevan86: a fundie of the russian orthodox church, who happens to have his private ideas of what that actually means [01:28] DaemonFC This is pretty much what it's reduced to. Christians in America are so mean and nasty that they don't care whether Trump actually believes in anything. [01:29] DaemonFC He tear gassed a bunch of black protesters to say "Hey, I'm one of you. Look what I just did!". [01:29] DaemonFC And it works. [01:29] MinceR XRevan86: is people making a huge fuss about being christian and oh-so-holy demonstrating behavior that is strongly conflicting with views generally seen as "christian" new to you? :> [01:30] XRevan86 MinceR: They're not fundies though. [01:30] MinceR sure they are [01:30] MinceR they bring their religion into the state and use the state to force it on people who don't want it [01:30] DaemonFC The Vietnam War would have gone down a lot differently had the US had the capacity for things like drone and cruise missile strikes that it has today. [01:30] MinceR also to steal from the people and hand some of that money to their favored cult[s] [01:31] DaemonFC You'd basically have to deploy a nuclear weapon to hit their capital with the tech being what it was back then. [01:31] MinceR and also to hand some publicly owned properties off to favored cult[s] [01:31] DaemonFC Today, you'd just selectively target all their government buildings and the power grid and stuff. [01:31] DaemonFC Throw them into such disarray that they'd be softened up well ahead of an occupation. [01:32] XRevan86 MinceR: Doesn't that just mean being religious? [01:33] XRevan86 not even that much by the Usonian standards [01:33] DaemonFC The US is mainly depleting stock of "dumb" weapons. The short range HIMARS are the most dangerous thing we've given to the Ukrainians. [01:33] DaemonFC The Russians can barely cope with things that are far from our best stuff. [01:34] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Just call it GMLRS [01:34] XRevan86 They're not even that short-range. [01:34] DaemonFC Only like 47 miles. [01:34] MinceR XRevan86: no [01:34] MinceR it's possible for a politician to be religious and not make a big show out of it, and respecting the separation of church and state in office [01:35] MinceR it just isn't popular [01:35] MinceR basically because humans are idiots [01:35] DaemonFC I wonder if there's a way the Ukrainians could field-modify those things to add a little range. [01:35] XRevan86 DaemonFC: They can go as far as 90km allegedly. [01:35] DaemonFC Even another mile would open up more options in some cases. [01:36] *MinceR accidentally calls it GMPLS [01:39] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Anyway, that's not bad, on a par with Uragan. [01:39] XRevan86 DaemonFC: And Ukraine can shoot much farther if really want to already: with Excalibur. [01:47] XRevan86 Ah, no, Excalibur has almost the same range, it's long-range only for its class. [01:48] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-360_Neptune However, this thing is "Up to 280km". [01:48] TR Bot R-360 Neptune - Wikipedia [01:51] TR News http://techrights.org/2022/09/23/epo-diversity-farce/ [01:51] TR Bot According to EPO Data, Women Have No Place at the EPO (Unless They Fancy Being Underpaid) | Techrights [01:56] XRevan86 I thought there was something else pretty darn long-range, but maybe I'm misremembering. [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 135.61 ● Sep 24 [02:01] XRevan86 DaemonFC: No matter, I'd call it mid-range. ATACMS is long-range but that also comes at a cost: it's not really an MLRS missile even though it's launched from an MLRS. [02:05] DaemonFC https://scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/308520487_159556406687978_1162909914111314012_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=yp_RKHK6QP4AX9Y5t70&_nc_ht=scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=00_AT_CUz5PK-bVyE4Xoq_KWwl4aAGZjBYWfyT-C-vlK0DvNA&oe=633350DA [02:05] XRevan86 Just because MLRS is a *multiple*-launch rocket system, while ATACMS is such a beefy boy a HIMARS can only launch one, and M270 can launch two. [02:06] DaemonFC You may only need one if you aim it at the right thing. [02:06] MinceR :> [02:07] XRevan86 DaemonFC: There is a caveat: one rocket is easier to shoot down. [02:08] XRevan86 GMLRS is very effective against Russian air defence because it can't shoot all of them down. [02:08] XRevan86 GMLRS is not fully immune against it, air defence does shoot them down, just not enough. [02:09] XRevan86 But if an ATACMS manages to reach a target, then that would be big news and discussed everywhere, that's for sure. [02:16] XRevan86 My layman understanding is that for Ukraine on practice it would be bigger news if the US allows use of GMLRS on Russian sovereign territory than delivery of ATACMS. [02:17] DaemonFC MinceR, Taco Bell is going to do "Beyond Steak". [02:17] DaemonFC Now that Beyond's shares are worth 10 cents for every dollar they were last year. [02:18] MinceR i don't see the need to go Beyond Steak [02:18] MinceR steak is fine [02:18] DaemonFC That's what I said. [02:18] DaemonFC Maybe Dr. Strange Love, mjg59_, can tell us how it is. [02:19] DaemonFC While he's careful not to violate the Verbal Morality Statute. [02:19] MinceR :> [02:20] schestowitz[TR] VVMS [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[02:35] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8 [02:35] TR Bot https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8 [02:35] TR Bot yt.artemislena.eu | Too Many Cooks | Adult Swim - Invidious [02:36] MinceR it never was _just_ that [02:36] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_le_Fucker [02:36] TR Bot John le Fucker - Wikipedia [02:36] DaemonFC I call John, Jogn le Fucker sometimes. [02:36] DaemonFC *John [02:38] MinceR :) [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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YouTube already threatens to wipe off his whole channel for merely talking about verifiable, official facts from reputable sources. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4WZHtxGF4Cc [03:19] TR Bot A sad day - Invidious [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [03:25] *cubexyz (~cubexyz@asp6h25j3583y.irc) has joined #techrights [03:25] schestowitz[TR] hi cubexyz [03:25] schestowitz[TR] welcome back [03:25] cubexyz hello :) [03:25] MinceR hi [03:25] schestowitz[TR] we're still here [03:25] cubexyz how are things? [03:26] schestowitz[TR] good [03:26] XRevan86 Holy cow! [03:26] schestowitz[TR] long timer [03:26] starstreak hi cubexyz [03:26] XRevan86 cubexyz: What took you so long? [03:26] cubexyz just haven't been in IRC [03:27] cubexyz been trying to learn some french on duolingo [03:28] starstreak hey cubexyz, im ender2070 :) [03:28] schestowitz[TR] canadians. [03:28] starstreak Canadians :D [03:28] schestowitz[TR] (btw) [03:28] starstreak i remember cubezzz [03:28] MinceR btw btw [03:29] starstreak i just set up a freebsd vm and the hostname is freebsdbtw [03:29] MinceR fitting [03:29] MinceR hipster name for a hipster os [03:29] XRevan86 MinceR: No one mentioned OpenIndiana. [03:29] schestowitz[TR] bythewayland [03:30] starstreak yeah lol openindiana is codenamed hipster [03:30] schestowitz[TR] it almost works [03:30] schestowitz[TR] NextYear(TM) [03:30] schestowitz[TR] TryAgainLater(R) [03:30] schestowitz[TR] RealSOonNow(RH) [03:30] highest_cubist_thrills i think you have to type startx to run x in openindiana [03:30] starstreak nope [03:31] starstreak it boots into gui [03:31] schestowitz[TR] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=962B7sgHauY [03:31] TR Bot My First Time Looking At OpenIndiana - Invidious [03:31] MinceR i'm used to using startx [03:31] schestowitz[TR] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xie6CrhI8Aw [03:31] TR Bot Ian Murdock - Sun's new VP of Cloud Strategy - Invidious [03:31] MinceR it has none of the systemd-logind/elogind/polkit bullshit [03:32] starstreak Roy needs something that boots directly into a GUI [03:32] TR News Top Open-Source Blockchain Platforms https://unixcop.com/top-open-source-blockchain-platforms/ [03:32] TR Bot Top Open-Source Blockchain Platforms - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials [03:32] starstreak Roy uses GUI btw [03:32] schestowitz[TR] starstreak: for laptop, yes [03:33] schestowitz[TR] on console you cannot fit many visible terminals [03:33] MinceR i use X11 btw [03:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: tmux disagrees. [03:34] schestowitz[TR] tmux at what resolution? [03:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: framebuffer resolution. [03:34] starstreak you can always login and use startx lol [03:34] schestowitz[TR] then it needs adjustment [03:34] highest_cubist_thrills then it needs adjustment <- no it depends on dpi [03:35] MinceR with an 8x8 font, you could have a 240x135 character console on framebuffer [03:35] MinceR and divide it up with tmux [03:35] schestowitz[TR] then you need font hinting [03:35] DaemonFC MidnightBSD maybe? [03:35] schestowitz[TR] otherwise it won't be readable at finer res [03:35] highest_cubist_thrills in some instances perhaps. be wary of assuming other experiences match your own [03:35] MinceR i don't think you can have hinting on that console [03:35] MinceR as it uses aliased bitmap fonts [03:35] DaemonFC Or GhostBSD. [03:35] schestowitz[TR] so might as well startx [03:36] schestowitz[TR] open terminal [03:36] schestowitz[TR] run tmux [03:36] MinceR oh, forgot to mention that i assumed a fullhd display [03:36] MinceR yeah, i just use x [03:36] MinceR btw [03:36] schestowitz[TR] it's not so heavy [03:36] MinceR and have antialiased fonts with slight hinting [03:36] schestowitz[TR] can use openbox [03:36] MinceR or fvwm, or icewm [03:36] schestowitz[TR] jim [03:36] starstreak fvwm95 [03:37] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWM [03:37] TR Bot JWM - Wikipedia [03:37] schestowitz[TR] Stable release [03:37] schestowitz[TR] 2.4.2[1] Edit this on Wikidata / 28 May 2022 [03:37] schestowitz[TR] nice, they are still going strong [03:37] highest_cubist_thrills or fvwm, or icewm <- https://i.ibb.co/C2Lf0yr/trisquel.png [03:38] schestowitz[TR] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nyL2Fx0iNZ0 [03:38] TR Bot Debian: Anatomy of An Open Source Project - Invidious [03:38] highest_cubist_thrills best jwm theme ever was in dsl before shingledecker left to create microsoft tinycore [03:38] highest_cubist_thrills which wasnt on github originally [03:39] starstreak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FVWM95 [03:39] TR Bot FVWM95 - Wikipedia [03:46] schestowitz[TR] shingledecker? [03:46] schestowitz[TR] real name? [03:47] schestowitz[TR] shingledicker? [03:47] TR News GNU Project Turning 39 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/24/gnu-project-turning-39/ [03:47] TR Bot Blog Archive GNU Project Turning 39 [03:49] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: if you can suggest articl;e/videos ideas, it would help a lot [03:49] schestowitz[TR] we seem to have run out of ideas lately [03:49] schestowitz[TR] or short of good topics, unexplored [03:50] schestowitz[TR] social media is dying [03:50] schestowitz[TR] but in relation to "FOSS" or "federated" or "decentralised" alts it feels like kicking a man while it's down [03:50] schestowitz[TR] to point it point [03:50] schestowitz[TR] *point it out [03:50] schestowitz[TR] the web as a whole seems to be losing to "apps" [03:50] schestowitz[TR] i.e. to waste of time [03:53] highest_cubist_thrills we seem to have run out of ideas lately <- the web is dying (but not fast enough) and free software is dead [03:53] highest_cubist_thrills as a tech blogger, youll think of something. you always do. [03:54] schestowitz[TR] yeah,m but not enough [03:54] schestowitz[TR] not 10 ideas per day [03:54] highest_cubist_thrills the reason youre out of ideas is that the movement is dead [03:54] highest_cubist_thrills not 10 ideas per day <- youre the one who thinks its a workout [03:54] highest_cubist_thrills id write about something if i had something to write about. [03:54] highest_cubist_thrills if i dont, then i dont need to. [03:54] schestowitz[TR] not much new [03:54] schestowitz[TR] imho [03:54] schestowitz[TR] very stale [03:55] highest_cubist_thrills not much new <- its all microsoft now [03:55] schestowitz[TR] yeah [03:55] schestowitz[TR] and media paralysed [03:55] highest_cubist_thrills barely worth covering [03:55] schestowitz[TR] nobody really investigatijng anymore [03:56] cubexyz distrowatch is still kicking [03:56] cubexyz new MX Linux came out just a few days ago [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 31.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.66 ● Sep 24 [04:00] starstreak cubexyz, i use arch btw [04:00] schestowitz[TR] yes, it is ranked #1 or was ranked #1 [04:01] schestowitz[TR] many people reuse old computers now, I guess [04:01] schestowitz[TR] linuxflation [04:01] starstreak schestowitz[TR], are you talking about distrowatch ratings? [04:01] schestowitz[TR] yeah [04:01] schestowitz[TR] views per week [04:01] starstreak thats based on website hits for a specific topic [04:01] starstreak that doesnt mean MX Linux is actually #1 [04:02] schestowitz[TR] i know [04:02] starstreak you say Fedora is dying but they're #7 [04:02] starstreak above debian [04:02] schestowitz[TR] fedora was ranked higher [04:02] cubexyz probably no way to even count the installations [04:04] TR News Geminispace Roughly Quadrupled in Size (and Grew a Lot in Terms of Number of Capsules) Since We Joined It Last Year | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/23/geminispace-continues-to-expand/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/23/geminispace-continues-to-expand/ [04:04] TR Bot Geminispace Roughly Quadrupled in Size (and Grew a Lot in Terms of Number of Capsules) Since We Joined It Last Year | Techrights [04:05] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, September 23, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:05] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:05] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:05] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Experts say gaps remain | Technology | The Guardian [05:45] *birkoff has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 60.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 138.05 ● Sep 24 [06:01] *horseface has quit (connection closed) [06:01] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [06:07] AdmFubar uh oh [06:08] AdmFubar oopsers wrong winder [06:15] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [06:15] *birkoff (birkoff@freenode-2mn.d28.de28dt.IP) has joined #techrights [06:17] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [06:19] *frog has quit (connection closed) [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[06:51] web0 Wow, Discord users are dense. https://paste.tildeverse.org/?3e4719236db7583f#nWqS2dhbweWaFtkX4qCL7Bdoj8Cs8wrJybZpZhPqo8k [06:51] TR Bot tildebin [06:56] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [06:58] *frog has quit (connection closed) [06:59] *frog (~frog@kxs4izj2yaf86.irc) has joined #techrights [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 90.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 129.63 [06:59] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) ● Sep 24 [07:14] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:15] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:17] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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HEY HI [08:03] TR News (NEW): #HowTo Fix: bash wget Command Not Found Error http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/How_to_Fix_bash_wget_Command_Not_Found_Error.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/How_to_Fix_bash_wget_Command_Not_Found_Error.gmi [08:03] TR Bot Tux Machines How to Fix: bash wget Command Not Found Error [08:04] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [08:04] highest_cubist_thrills /me has an old texas instruments calculator from before they switched to lcd-- its ai too [08:05] TR News "Groff provides an excellent and fast way to produce nice documents from a flat text file." https://box.matto.nl/create-presentation-slides-with-groff-and-mom.html | Source: MJ Fransen [08:05] TR Bot presentation slides with Groff and mom - box.matto.nl [08:05] TR News "When a Threat Intelligence Management (TIM) license is present in your Cortex XSOAR environment" https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/09/23/cortex-xsoar-tips-tricks-creating-indicator-relationships-in-integrations/ | Source: NVISO Labs [08:05] highest_cubist_thrills cant do math without SOME kind of intelligence [08:05] TR Bot Cortex XSOAR Tips & Tricks Creating indicator relationships in integrations NVISO Labs [08:05] highest_cubist_thrills thermos flasks obviously have ai [08:05] highest_cubist_thrills it keeps cold stuff cold [08:06] TR News "Trombone Champ works like other music rhythm games: notes move across the screen from right to left" https://www.pcgamer.com/the-worlds-first-trombone-rhythm-game-is-instantly-a-goty-contender/ | Source: PC Gamer [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills it keeps hot stuff hot [08:06] TR News "While it's normally just me (Player 2) and one other (Player 1) there." https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-23-plainly-put-plane-power-play.html | Source: Bjrn Wrmedal [08:06] TR Bot The world's first trombone rhythm game is instantly a GOTY contender | PC Gamer [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills HOW DOES IT KNOW [08:06] TR Bot Plainly Put: Plane Power Play - Bjrn Wrmedal [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills it doesnt even need batteries [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills thats kind of scary [08:06] *cubexyz has quit (connection closed) [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills maybe it runs off heat (and cold) [08:06] *cubexyz (~cubexyz@asp6h25j3583y.irc) has joined #techrights [08:07] highest_cubist_thrills maybe it runs off radio waves [08:07] TR News "While Valve has been able to repeatedly speed up production of the Steam Deck smashing expectations" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/canadian-customers-seeing-a-temporary-delay-for-the-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:07] TR Bot customers seeing a temporary delay for the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [08:07] highest_cubist_thrills you think its connected to a computer somewhere? [08:07] TR News "Two big pieces of Steam Deck news for you today, with two major updates now available." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-upgrade-steam-deck-when-docked-in-new-os-beta-plus-big-steam-deck-client-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:07] TR Bot upgrade Steam Deck when docked in new OS Beta, plus big Steam Deck Client update | GamingOnLinux [08:07] TR News "Steam Charts, the name of the new system Valve just launched gives us a better look behind the curtain" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-launches-steam-charts-giving-us-better-details-on-games/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:07] TR Bot launches Steam Charts giving us better details on games | GamingOnLinux [08:09] TR News Permeating The Nocturnal Threshold gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1136 [08:10] TR News "I hadn't soldered since I was a kid, and I never really did any serious soldering, so I was basically starting at square one. I think the whole thing took like 6 to 8 hours." gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/music/2022-09-24-jazzmaster_rewire.gmi [08:12] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@g3izecpprtp7g.irc) has joined #techrights [08:14] TR News Patent troll from Microsoft, celebrated? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/22/arts/design/paul-allen-collection-art-christies-auction.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Interval [08:14] TR Bot Opening Paul Allens Treasure Chest - The New York Times [08:14] TR Bot Interval - Techrights [08:15] TR News Religion https://www.easterneye.biz/islamic-preacher-who-raped-young-girl-caught-after-she-identified-him-on-youtube/ [08:15] TR Bot Islamic preacher who raped young girl caught after she identified him on YouTube - EasternEye [08:15] TR News tortured https://www.firstpost.com/india/15-year-old-thane-girl-forcibly-married-off-in-mosque-tortured-by-husband-11260701.html [08:15] TR Bot 15-year-old Thane girl forcibly married off in mosque, tortured by husband [08:17] TR News apropos Microsoft Rust https://www.zdnet.com/article/programming-languages-its-time-to-stop-using-c-and-c-for-new-projects-says-microsoft-azure-cto/ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/23/1214202 https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/19/1826218 [08:17] TR Bot languages: It's time to stop using C and C++ for new projects, says Microsoft Azure CTO | ZDNET [08:17] TR Bot It's Time to Stop Using C and C++ for New Projects, Says Microsoft Azure CTO - SoylentNews [08:17] TR Bot Linus Torvalds: Rust Will Go Into Linux 6.1 - SoylentNews [08:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:18] TR News Microsoft controls Rust. Watch what they're doing. https://www.analyticsinsight.net/rust-in-c-and-c-out-of-microsoft-for-the-sake-of-security/ [08:18] TR Bot You are being redirected... [08:18] TR News old: Openly Secular | Ayaan Hirsi Ali https://openlysecular.org/freethinker/ayaan-hirsi-ali/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//openlysecular.org/freethinker/ayaan-hirsi-ali/ [08:18] TR Bot Openly Secular | Ayaan Hirsi Ali [08:19] TR News Workers are changing jobs and getting raises, and still struggling financially https://text.npr.org/1124118203 Source: BillPR | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//text.npr.org/1124118203 [08:19] TR Bot Workers are changing jobs and getting raises, and still struggling financially [08:19] TR News Europe's Top Court Chalks Up More Strikes Against Bulk Data Retention - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/22/1750246 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/22/1750246 [08:19] TR Bot Europe's Top Court Chalks Up More Strikes Against Bulk Data Retention - SoylentNews [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:20] TR News GrapheneOS; the greatest mobile OS of all time. Common usability misconceptions DEBUNKED! https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/grapheneos-the-greatest-mobile-os-of-all:4 on graphene OS [08:20] TR Bot GrapheneOS; the greatest mobile OS of all time. Common usability misconceptions DEBUNKED! [08:21] TR News "Microsoft people. "Doctor Pizza" (current location: federal prison) was also lobbying to get rid of me." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220922.html#tSep%2022%2012:30:03 [08:22] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 22, 2022 [08:22] TR News "i'm thinking of maybe forking Linux, stripping out the CoC, stripping out the hype-V crap" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220922.html#tSep%2022%2013:38:24 +1 [08:22] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 22, 2022 [08:22] TR News "In this brief guide, we will see what is RPM Fusion repository, why should we install RPM Fusion repository" https://ostechnix.com/how-to-enable-rpm-fusion-repository-in-fedora-rhel/ | Source: OSTechNix [08:22] TR Bot RPM Fusion Repository In Fedora, RHEL - OSTechNix [08:23] TR News "Linux is an open-source operating system designed for file management." https://www.unixmen.com/linux-commands-every-sysadmin-must-know/ | Source: Unix Men [08:23] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/linux-commands-every-sysadmin-must-know/ ) [08:23] TR News "Python 2 went end of life January 2020" https://archlinux.org/news/removing-python2-from-the-repositories/ | [08:23] TR Bot Arch Linux - News: Removing python2 from the repositories [08:24] TR News "Full transparency as always, Aqara did provide me with the TRV for me to check out" https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/aqara-radiator-thermostat-e1-review/ | Source: Everything Smart Home [08:24] TR Bot Aqara Radiator Thermostat E1 Review [08:24] TR News "AnsibleFest is fast approaching, and this year it'll finally be back in person, in Chicago." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/homelab-pi-rack-upgrade-just-time-ansiblefest-2022 | Source: Jeff Geerling [08:24] TR Bot Homelab Pi Rack upgrade, just in time for AnsibleFest 2022 | Jeff Geerling [08:24] TR News "SinoVoip Co. launched today a new IoT board based on the ESP-S3 SoC." https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-bpi-picow-s3-launched-for-5-50/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [08:24] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-bpi-picow-s3-launched-for-5-50/ ) [08:25] TR News "PJRC recently released a Teensy 4.1 variant without ethernet support but with more I/Os." https://linuxgizmos.com/teensy-4-1_ne-swaps-ethernet-support-for-more-i-os/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [08:25] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/teensy-4-1_ne-swaps-ethernet-support-for-more-i-os/ ) [08:25] TR News "Databases are tools to store information in an organized but flexible way." https://opensource.com/article/22/9/drop-your-database-for-postgresql | Source: OpenSource.com [08:25] TR Bot your database for PostgreSQL | Opensource.com [08:26] TR News [Old] "I'd say: DON'T start by trying to find a bug to fix" https://harihareswara.net/posts/2022/i-want-to-start-contributing-to-open-source-my-current-advice/ | [08:26] TR Bot "I want to start contributing to open source": My (Current) Advice | Cogito, Ergo Sumana [08:26] TR News "I know lisp macros are awesome, it's one of those things that everybody is told." https://blog.steve.fi/lisp_macros_are_magical.html | Source: Steve Kemp [08:26] TR Bot Lisp macros are magical [08:26] TR News "All this talk about types, objects, and systems, got me to thinking" https://dev.to/iamalnewkirk/my-perl-weekly-challenge-3dan | Source: DEV Community [08:26] TR Bot My Perl Weekly Challenge - DEV Community [08:27] TR News "Today, we released the latest issue of The Domain Name Industry Brief" https://circleid.com/posts/20220920-verisign-domain-name-industry-brief-351.5-million-domain-name-registrations-in-q2-2022 | Source: CircleID [08:27] TR Bot Verisign Domain Name Industry Brief: 351.5 Million Domain Name Registrations in Q2 2022 [08:28] TR News "Infrastructure Defined Software" https://matt-rickard.com/infrastructure-defined-software | Source: Matt Rickard [08:28] TR Bot Infrastructure Defined Software [08:28] TR News "As the planet is increasingly urbanized, the questions of which animals will be able to cope with the sprawl" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/22/science/raccoon-learning-urban-wildlife.html | Source: New York Times [08:28] TR Bot Shy Raccoons Are Better Learners Than Bold Ones, Study Finds - The New York Times [08:29] TR News "More than four out of five, or 86 percent, of people in Finland said they consume newspaper content" https://yle.fi/news/3-12635989 | Source: YLE [08:29] TR Bot Nearly everyone in Finland reads newspapers, survey finds | News | Yle Uutiset [08:29] TR News Proprietary surveillance devices https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/building-a-local-smart-home-alarm-home-assistant/ | Source: Everything Smart Home [08:29] TR Bot Build Your Own Local Controlled Smart Home Alarm! [08:30] Andrew tmux a [08:30] Andrew ugh nevermind [08:30] schestowitz[TR] ah [08:30] schestowitz[TR] happens to all of us asometimes [08:31] TR News This coming Tuesday is a special day; 39 years since the message (announcement) below, so next year its 40 (a time leap in the context of software development; not much stuff lasts this long) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/24/gnu-project-turning-39/ [08:31] TR Bot Blog Archive GNU Project Turning 39 [08:31] TR News IRC Proceedings: Friday, September 23, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/24/irc-log-230922/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/24/irc-log-230922/ [08:31] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Friday, September 23, 2022 | Techrights [08:35] TR News Planned vs evolved behavior gemini://idiomdrottning.org/evolved-behavior [08:36] TR News (NEW): Games: Trombone Champ, Steam, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Games_Trombone_Champ_Steam_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Games_Trombone_Champ_Steam_and_More.gmi [08:36] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Trombone Champ, Steam, and More [08:38] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [08:38] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gph63bcnfvisc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:41] TR News "This is an opinionated, quick-start guide to using passkeys as a web developer." https://www.imperialviolet.org/2022/09/22/passkeys.html | [08:41] TR Bot ImperialViolet - Passkeys [08:42] TR News "Together the documents detail the inner workings of a critical facet of Mr. Putins surveillance and censorship system, which his government uses to find and track opponents, squash dissent and suppress independent information even in the countrys furthest reaches" https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/22/technology/russia-putin-surveillance-spying.html | Source: New York Times [08:42] TR Bot Inside Russias Vast Surveillance State: They Are Watching - The New York Times [08:42] TR News [Old] "Google collects user data in a variety of ways." https://digitalcontentnext.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DCN-Google-Data-Collection-Paper.pdf | Source: Digital Content Next [08:42] TR News "The privacy of mobile apps has been extensively studied, but much less attention has been paid to the privacy of the mobile OS itself." https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/Android_privacy_report.pdf | [08:44] TR News "Okay, its an obscure threat. But people are researching it: [...]" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/leaking-screen-information-on-zoom-calls-through-reflections-in-eyeglasses.html | Source: Bruce Schneier [08:44] TR Bot Screen Information on Zoom Calls through Reflections in Eyeglasses - Schneier on Security [08:44] TR News "Such font sizes can mostly be found in slide presentations and the headings/titles of some websites" https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/17/glasses_reflections_zoom/ | Source: The Register UK [08:44] TR Bot Lens reflections may betray your secrets in Zoom video calls The Register [08:45] TR News "spread all over Britain" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/21/leicester-muslim-hindu-clashes-spread-smethwick/ | Source: The Telegraph UK [08:45] TR Bot Ongoing clashes between Muslims and Hindus 'could spread all over Britain' [08:46] TR News "Footage show the large group, many masked, approaching the temple" https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/21/violence-between-muslim-and-hindu-men-spreads-to-birmingham-17425435/ | Source: Metro UK [08:46] TR Bot Clashes between Muslim and Hindu men spread to Birmingham | Metro News [08:46] TR News "violent demonstration outside the Durga Bhawan temple in the UKs Smethwick in Birmingham regionviolent demonstration outside the Durga Bhawan temple in the UKs Smethwick in Birmingham region" https://www.news18.com/news/world/how-paks-anti-hindu-groups-gathered-3000-muslim-protesters-at-durga-bhawan-in-uks-smethwick-exclusive-6004231.html | Source: India [08:46] TR Bot UK: How Pak Anti-Hindu Groups Got 3,000 Muslim Protesters at Durga Bhawan in Smethwick | Exclusive [08:48] TR News "Modern hostilities between Armenia, an ancient nation, and Azerbaijan" https://www.frontpagemag.com/the-jihad-on-armenia-erupts-again/ | Source: Frontpage Magazine [08:48] TR Bot The Jihad on Armenia Erupts Again | Frontpage Mag [08:50] TR News "A Norwegian yards group, Westcon, has put in place an agreement with Sweden-based company SeaTwirl to deploy 1MW vertical axis wind turbines in the North Sea by next year" https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/1mw-floating-vertical-axis-turbine | Source: Interesting Engineering [08:50] TR Bot A 1-MW vertical axis wind turbine could change offshore wind farms forever [08:51] *KiKi has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:51] TR News World Rhino Day https://www.defenceweb.co.za/security/border-security/the-future-of-rhino-protection-is-high-tech-retired-general/ | Source: Defence Web [08:51] TR Bot The future of rhino protection is high-tech retired general - defenceWeb [08:52] TR News "So it just turns it off and makes it sound like the extension is sketchy, and then you have to read that and say Oh bullshit!" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/21/pale-moon-scares-people-away-from-the-noscript-extension-to-protect-moonchilds-profits-bonus-corrosive-people-boosted-by-microsoft-in-foss-communities/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) [08:52] TR Bot Pale Moon scares people away from the NoScript extension to protect MoonChilds profits. Bonus: Corrosive people (boosted by Microsoft) in FOSS Communities. | BaronHK's Rants [08:52] TR News "A pro-Indian army covert Twitter influence operation" https://www.dawn.com/news/1711531/tactics-behind-pro-india-twitter-drive-against-pak-army-revealed | Source: Dawn Media [08:52] TR Bot behind pro-India Twitter drive against Pak Army revealed - World - DAWN.COM [08:53] TR News "Twitter is not publicly attributing this network to any actor" https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io/news/india-twitter-takedown | Source: uni Stanford [08:53] TR Bot FSI | Cyber | Internet Observatory - My Heart Belongs to Kashmir [08:53] TR News Censorship https://fortune.com/2022/09/22/iran-shuts-down-meta-instagram-whatsapp-sharing-videos-anti-morality-police-demonstrations/ | Source: Fortune [08:53] TR Bot shuts off its internet as protests worsen | Fortune [08:54] TR News Online News Act https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/09/why-the-online-news-act-is-a-bad-solution-to-a-real-problem-part-one-the-risk-to-free-flow-of-information/ | Source: Michael Geist [08:54] TR Bot Why the Online News Act is a Bad Solution to a Real Problem, Part One: The Risk to Free Flow of Information - Michael Geist [08:54] TR News Online News Act https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/09/why-the-online-news-act-is-a-bad-solution-to-a-real-problem-part-two/ | Source: Michael Geist [08:54] TR Bot Why the Online News Act is a Bad Solution to a Real Problem, Part Two: Encouraging Clickbait and Low Quality Journalism With No "News Content" Standards - Michael Geist [08:54] TR News Online News Act... "is a bad solution" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/09/why-the-online-news-act-is-a-bad-solution-to-a-real-problem-part-three/ | Source: Michael Geist [08:54] TR Bot Why the Online News Act is a Bad Solution to a Real Problem, Part Three: Unprecedented Government Intervention into a Sector Where Independence is Essential - Michael Geist [08:55] TR News Despite the medias apathy (pretending that Gemini does not exist or does not matter), Geminispace continues to expand and we have 42,703 pages in it http://techrights.org/2022/09/23/geminispace-continues-to-expand/ [08:55] TR Bot Geminispace Roughly Quadrupled in Size (and Grew a Lot in Terms of Number of Capsules) Since We Joined It Last Year | Techrights [08:56] TR News The Digital Cold War - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yfqVvonOLS4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/yfqVvonOLS4 [08:56] TR Bot The Digital Cold War - Invidious [08:57] TR News Second lot of Optus data advertised for sale on Web forum https://itwire.com/security/second-lot-of-optus-data-advertised-for-sale-on-web-forum.html [08:59] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 132.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 133.13 ● Sep 24 [09:00] TR News "The clerical regimes misogyny takes a toll on Iranian women and girls daily." https://www.frontpagemag.com/we-will-neither-forgive-nor-forget-the-murder-of-mahsa-amini/ | Source: Frontpage Magazine [09:02] *web0 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [09:03] TR News Copyrights https://digit.site36.net/2022/09/23/copyright-infringement-radio-dreyeckland-issues-a-warning-to-the-domestic-secret-service/ | Source: Site36 [09:03] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:03] TR News "The U.S. Trade Representative has started collecting input for its annual list of notorious piracy markets." https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-wants-to-know-how-online-piracy-impacts-the-workforce-220923/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:03] TR News "TNTVillage was once the most popular torrent site in Italy" https://torrentfreak.com/battle-to-crush-iconic-ethical-torrent-site-ends-after-four-long-years-220923/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:07] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [09:07] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [09:11] TR News "OctoPrint is a useful tool for 3D printers, providing remote access to essentially every 3D printer with a USB port." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/23/big-3d-printed-bmo-is-also-an-octoprint-server/ | Source: Hackaday [09:11] TR Bot 3D Printed BMO Is Also An OctoPrint Server | Hackaday [09:12] TR News ESP8266 or ESP32 https://hackaday.com/2022/09/23/for-the-esps-next-esp-trick/ | Source: Hackaday [09:12] TR Bot The ESPs Next ESP Trick | Hackaday [09:13] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Security_Leftovers.gmi [09:13] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:21] TR News "Politics arise when a group bigger than a single person needs to make a decision of what to do or how to handle a specific situation or type of situations." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/intro-to-politics [09:22] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [09:22] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [09:24] TR News "Hackaday Editor-in-Chief Elliot Williams took time out from Supercon planning to join Staff Writer Dan Maloney" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/23/hackaday-podcast-186-weighing-cats-slamming-vu-meters-slimmer-skimmers-and-clean-air-on-the-cheap/ | Source: Hackaday [09:24] TR Bot Podcast 186: Weighing Cats, Slamming VU Meters, Slimmer Skimmers, And Clean Air On The Cheap | Hackaday [09:40] TR News "When one needs a spring, a 3D-printed version is maybe not ones first choice." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/23/filament-cutter-uses-unusual-but-effective-3d-printed-spring-design/ | Source: Hackaday [09:40] TR Bot Cutter Uses Unusual (But Effective) 3D-Printed Spring Design | Hackaday [09:57] TR News Magnavox Odyssey History: Why Americans Never Got an Odyssey https://tedium.co/2022/09/24/philips-magnavox-odyssey-history/ Source: Tedium | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tedium.co/2022/09/24/philips-magnavox-odyssey-history/ [09:57] TR Bot Magnavox Odyssey History: Why Americans Never Got an Odyssey ● Sep 24 [10:00] TR News UP 4000 x86 SBC review - Part 1: Unboxing and first boot - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/24/up-4000-x86-sbc-review-unboxing-first-boot/ Source: CNX Software | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/24/up-4000-x86-sbc-review-unboxing-first-boot/ [10:00] TR Bot UP 4000 x86 SBC review - Part 1: Unboxing and first boot - CNX Software [10:01] *frog has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:02] *frog (~frog@2qgtgt44enunu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:04] *Andrew has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.7-dev) [10:14] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [10:15] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@64u3jrb5tny32.irc) has joined #techrights [10:16] TR News (NEW): This week in KDE: yo dawg, I heard you wanted stability http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/This_week_in_KDE_yo_dawg_I_heard_you_wanted_stability.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/This_week_in_KDE_yo_dawg_I_heard_you_wanted_stability.gmi [10:16] TR Bot Tux Machines This week in KDE: yo dawg, I heard you wanted stability [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:25] TR News chicago https://thedissenter.org/migrants-arent-fleeing-communism-plus-toxic-lead-in-chicago-water/ | Source: The Dissenter [10:25] TR Bot Unauthorized Disclosure: Subscriber Episode For Sept. 22 [10:43] TR News Still poverty-stricken https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/23/after-expanded-child-tax-credit-slashed-poverty-letting-it-lapse-was-enormous | Source: Common Dreams [10:43] TR Bot Opinion | After Expanded Child Tax Credit Slashed Poverty, Letting It Lapse Was Enormous Mistake | Elise Gould [10:46] TR News COVID-19 as a patent pool and extortion for maximal revenue https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/23/blood-your-hands-if-global-poor-hit-covid-wave-who-official-tells-rich-nations | Source: Common Dreams [10:46] TR Bot 'Blood On Your Hands' If Global Poor Hit With Covid Wave, WHO Official Tells Rich Nations [10:47] TR News Koch isn't alone, why not name criminals like Bill Gates too? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/23/koch-network-showers-fascist-election-deniers-campaign-cash-ahead-midterms | Source: Common Dreams [10:47] TR Bot Koch Network Showers Fascist Election Deniers With Campaign Cash Ahead of Midterms [10:47] TR News "a national paid leave policy." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/23/80-us-voters-want-congress-enact-national-paid-family-leave-poll | Source: Common Dreams [10:47] TR Bot 80% of US Voters Want Congress to Enact National Paid Family Leave: Poll [10:52] TR News Censorship https://truthout.org/articles/resolutions-in-congress-seek-to-condemn-far-right-book-bans-across-u-s/ | Source: TruthOut [10:52] TR Bot Resolutions in Congress Seek to Condemn Far Right Book Bans Across US [10:53] TR News Calling them "deniers" is false equivalence; people who question proprietary back-doored voting 'machines' are NOT nazis (not always) https://truthout.org/articles/georgia-officials-grapple-with-frivolous-challenges-from-election-deniers/ | Source: TruthOut [10:53] TR Bot Georgia Officials Grapple With Frivolous Challenges From Election Deniers [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 173.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 134.56 ● Sep 24 [11:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@58nejqa2kp9h2.irc) has joined #techrights [11:16] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:28] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I was commenting on the prosecutor's status on Facebook about "gun violence". [11:29] DaemonFC "The Democrats and Republicans agree on all of the very worst things, and one of those things you guys are both completely 100% full of boloney on is trying to pin violence on "the mentally ill" as a whole, video games, people playing records backwards, and other nonsense. [11:29] DaemonFC What would reduce violence is if the Democrats would create jobs that lifted people out of poverty instead of illegal lockdown orders from Democrat Hitler, JB Pritzker. These put 25 million people out of work. And of course, only the Democrats could say we've regained half as many jobs as they cost us and those are new jobs, and the best years of job creation ever. [11:29] DaemonFC Poverty is linked to suicide, violent crime, and drug abuse. Making it about guns or the mentally ill is a red herring from the 1.5 party system. [11:29] DaemonFC If you've ever wondered why no matter what the Democrats have done lately, violent crime in Chicago is worse than at any point since the 1980s, it's because criminals didn't obey the FOID law then and they don't obey it now. It doesn't matter how many amendments the idiot and criminal politicians in Springfield pass, and you see that. All you have to look at is the shootings and murders going up every year despite gun law crackdowns. [11:29] DaemonFC When the Democrats have the cops going over your social media to see if you're a Republican during the FOID Card process, the gang crime in Chicago will still continue unabated. [11:29] DaemonFC About the only thing changing the law does is change how lawyers bicker in some courtroom months or years after a criminal has already done whatever it is they've done, and that's it. That's all it does." [11:30] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:35] *Redfoxmoon has quit (Connection closed) [11:35] *Redfoxmoon (~Red@freenode-vq3.aj5.jaj210.IP) has joined #techrights [11:36] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/news/celsius-might-planning-turn-debt-165530596.html [11:36] TR Bot Celsius Network Might Be Planning to Turn Its Debt Into Crypto IOU Tokens [11:36] DaemonFC Then there was this. I suggest WimpyCoin. That bum from the Popeye comics. [11:36] DaemonFC I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today! [11:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:46] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [11:47] DaemonFC https://medium.com/@merket/mission-labs-is-winding-down-cf3d1c00a328 [11:47] TR Bot Labs is winding down. It breaks my heart to announce that | by Ryan Merket | Sep, 2022 | Medium [11:47] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], "I hired people who didn't know what Web3 was and that's why my NFT business collapsed." [11:47] DaemonFC :) [11:51] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: see #boycottnovell [11:51] schestowitz[TR] my friend lost everything in a fakecoinsscam [11:51] schestowitz[TR] I found out 30 mins ago [11:52] schestowitz[TR] and nobody can help him [11:52] schestowitz[TR] 100,000 lost [11:52] schestowitz[TR] 50k "stranded" [11:54] DaemonFC How do you get scammed out of $100,000 real dollars by people who say something something crypto? [11:55] schestowitz[TR] worse [11:55] schestowitz[TR] he is a professor [11:55] schestowitz[TR] brb [11:56] schestowitz[TR] need to think [11:56] schestowitz[TR] many pppeople I nknow seem to get scammed [11:56] schestowitz[TR] and then keep quiet about it [11:56] schestowitz[TR] out of shame [11:59] DaemonFC I may stir fry some chicken and vegetables and make some spam fried rice tonight. [11:59] DaemonFC I'm particularly fond of the pea pods and the baby corn. ● Sep 24 [12:00] DaemonFC The cabbage turned out well last night, though I over-bought and shall need to get rod of half a head of cabbage. [12:01] DaemonFC I may throw that into the rice to say I used it all up. [12:01] DaemonFC Fried rice with cabbage, spam, carrots, peas, and eggs is almsot a meal by itself. Easily. [12:03] DaemonFC Cabbage has gotten ridiculous like everything else. [12:03] DaemonFC A head of cabbage is now $3.92. They used to run about $2.88 or so for one this size. [12:04] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], With the way things are going, the landlord did us a favor. [12:04] DaemonFC He could have done so much worse and gotten away with it. [12:05] DaemonFC In this market, where else re you going to go? Nobody else in town is renting them for this price. Maybe the absolute best you'll find if you're lucky is 10% higher than the new rent, and those are going so fast now that they barely need to advertise. Mom's landlord doesn't even clean them when someone moves out anymore. [12:05] DaemonFC He just offers the new tenants $100 off their rent the first month to clean out the shit the last people left behind. [12:06] DaemonFC He doesn't want to do it and he can't find anyone to work for him, and people are desperate for apartments. So you get to go in there and clean out someone's old furniture and the mess they made out of the fridge and stuff. [12:06] DaemonFC Nice, huh? [12:08] DaemonFC Speaking of which.....So I go to get in the car this morning and someone moved out in the middle of the night and piled all their trash and old mattress and couch and stuff in a parking space next to my car. [12:08] DaemonFC I wish I could say this was the first time. [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:23] DaemonFC https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-23/philippines-seeks-russian-fuel-as-inflation-bites-marcos-says?utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid=socialflow-facebook-business&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social [12:23] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [12:26] *isak has quit (Quit: leaving) [12:27] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [12:31] DaemonFC https://politicalwire.com/2022/09/24/pound-plunges-in-response-to-new-u-k-budget/ [12:31] TR Bot Pound Plunges in Response to New U.K. Budget [12:31] DaemonFC The newly formed British government rolled out its fiscal plans Friday and the reaction from global financial markets is beyond stunning, Axios reports. [12:31] DaemonFC Essentially, the markets are treating the U.K. the way they do emerging markets, which are viewed as not having the same reliable, disciplined institutions setting economic policy as the richest nations. [12:37] schestowitz[TR] A head of cabbage is now $3.92. They used to run about $2.88 or so for one this size. [12:37] schestowitz[TR] very expensive [12:37] schestowitz[TR] we find cabbage for 10 p sometimes [12:37] schestowitz[TR] 12 cents [12:37] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [12:38] DaemonFC Food has gotten just terrible. [12:39] DaemonFC Terribly overpriced. [12:39] DaemonFC More food inflation in the last year than in the last 20 years before that. [12:39] schestowitz[TR] yeah [12:39] schestowitz[TR] we noticed [12:39] schestowitz[TR] but if you get good at bargain-hunting [12:39] schestowitz[TR] then the savings get even bigger [12:39] schestowitz[TR] relative to 'rrp' [12:45] TR News Keeping people ignorant https://truthout.org/articles/two-powerful-unions-have-come-together-to-fight-the-rights-attack-on-higher-ed/ | Source: TruthOut [12:45] TR Bot Two Powerful Unions Have Come Together to Fight the Rights Attack on Higher Ed [12:46] TR News This dark money thing isn't a wing thing; the fake left also pockets bribes, but does not use the term dark money https://truthout.org/articles/zero-republicans-vote-for-bill-that-would-expose-billionaire-dark-money-donors/ | Source: TruthOut [12:46] TR Bot Zero Republicans Vote for Bill That Would Expose Billionaire Dark Money Donors [12:47] TR News Slavery in "progressive" california https://truthout.org/articles/california-is-dependent-on-prison-labor-for-fighting-fires-this-must-end/ | Source: TruthOut [12:47] TR Bot California Is Dependent on Prison Labor for Fighting Fires. This Must End. [12:48] TR News Without having solved the issue; US excess deaths right now about 15% HIGHER than before COVID-19 https://truthout.org/articles/gop-senator-plans-to-force-vote-to-end-covid-national-emergency-declaration/ | Source: TruthOut [12:48] TR Bot GOP Senator Plans to Force Vote to End COVID National Emergency Declaration [12:52] TR News Who lives longer? Capitalists? https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/23/cuba-and-china-exceed-us-in-life-expectancy-send-message-to-the-world-socialism-is-the-difference/ | Source: Counter Punch [12:52] TR Bot and China Exceed US in Life Expectancy, Send Message to the World Socialism is the Difference - CounterPunch.org [12:58] TR News (NEW): #HowTo Find and Delete Files Older than X Days in Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/How_to_Find_and_Delete_Files_Older_than_X_Days_in_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/How_to_Find_and_Delete_Files_Older_than_X_Days_in_Linux.gmi [12:58] TR Bot Tux Machines How to Find and Delete Files Older than X Days in Linux [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 166.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 125.48 ● Sep 24 [13:00] XRevan86 "worse; he is a professor" <- [13:00] XRevan86 [13:00] TR News Historical Dates https://xkcd.com/2676/ [13:00] TR Bot Historical Dates [13:03] TR News On surveillance https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/23/entering-the-resistance-phase-of-the-surveillance-education-cycle-finding-ways-to-protect-privacy-in-schools/ | Source: Counter Punch [13:03] TR Bot the Resistance Phase of the Surveillance Education Cycle: Finding Ways to Protect Privacy in Schools - CounterPunch.org [13:06] TR News Cannot criticise criminals https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/23/offense-by-another-name-suppressing-anti-royal-protest-in-britain/ | Source: Counter Punch [13:06] TR Bot by Another Name: Suppressing Anti-Royal Protest in Britain - CounterPunch.org [13:10] TR News Unlimited Growth https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/23/the-costs-of-unlimited-growth-a-view-from-vietnam/ | Source: Counter Punch [13:10] TR Bot Costs of Unlimited Growth: A View from Vietnam - CounterPunch.org [13:12] DaemonFC "worse; he is a professor" <- [13:12] DaemonFC Hopefully not an economics professor. 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Build autonomous "supply chains", self-reliant [13:35] TR News "I've been reading and learning about Building A Second Brain (BASB) after coming across the Zettelkasten note-making method." gemini://3baid.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-09-24.gmi [13:35] TR News The Humanity Recorder gemini://gemini.susa.net/the_humanity_recorder.gmi [13:36] TR News Jazzmaster - Pickguard Replacement & Re-shielding gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/music/2022-04-22-jazzmaster_pickguard.gmi [13:43] TR News poverty https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/23/welfare-system-built-exclude-will-never-reduce-poverty-us | Source: Common Dreams [13:43] TR Bot Opinion | A Welfare System Built to Exclude Will Never Reduce Poverty in the US | Olivier De Schutter ● Sep 24 [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:41] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2208154 [14:41] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/mq281bvp22h91.jpg created on 2022-08-15 02:12:30.289320 [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 162.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 120.31 ● Sep 24 [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi ● Sep 24 [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:24] TR News So-called 'smartphones' https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/study-electronic-monitoring-smartphone-apps-confirms-advocates-concerns-privacy | Source: EFF [16:24] TR Bot Study of Electronic Monitoring Smartphone Apps Confirms Advocates Concerns of Privacy Harms | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:28] TR News Provocation in the headline. WSL is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/24/systemd_windows_linux_microsoft/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/ [16:28] TR Bot systemd comes to Windows Subsystem for Linux via Canonical The Register [16:28] TR Bot Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd | Techrights [16:42] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:42] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [16:43] *Noisytoot has quit (Connection closed) [16:43] *Noisytoot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:44] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [16:44] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [16:50] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:55] TR News "Weve written stories about people having difficulty recognizing people joking around quoting movies." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/23/the-most-famous-blunder-of-content-moderation-do-not-quote-the-princess-bride/ | Source: Techdirt [16:55] TR Bot Most Famous Blunder Of Content Moderation: Do NOT Quote The Princess Bride | Techdirt [16:57] TR News nyquil https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/23/fda-streisands-nyquil-chicken-into-being-a-thing-based-after-moral-panic-press-release/ | Source: Techdirt [16:57] TR Bot Streisands NyQuil Chicken Into Being A Thing Based After Moral Panic Press Release | Techdirt [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 25.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.28 ● Sep 24 [17:02] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [17:11] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [17:17] TR News Starlink https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/23/starlink-service-starts-to-slow-down-as-limited-capacity-rears-its-head/ | Source: Techdirt [17:17] TR Bot Service Starts To Slow Down As Limited Capacity Rears Its Head | Techdirt [17:19] TR News KrebsOnSecurity https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/09/accused-russian-rsocks-botmaster-arrested-requests-extradition-to-u-s/ | Source: Krebs On Security [17:19] TR Bot Accused Russian RSOCKS Botmaster Arrested, Requests Extradition to U.S. Krebs on Security [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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It's more likely systemd will totally fuck up Windows, just as it's done to Linux." https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2022/09/24/systemd_windows_linux_microsoft/ [17:37] TR Bot A match made in heaven: systemd comes to Windows Subsystem for Linux The Register Forums [17:40] TR News "[MakingDevices] has created a simple stopwatch that makes for a nice introduction to surface mount electronic design and assembly." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/23/add-an-oshw-certified-stopwatch-to-your-toolkit/ | Source: Hackaday [17:40] TR Bot An OSHW Certified Stopwatch To Your Toolkit | Hackaday [17:41] TR News "I wrote up an initial analysis of the 5th Circuits batshit crazy ruling re-instating Texass social media content moderation law last week." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/23/did-the-5th-circuit-just-make-it-so-that-wikipedia-can-no-longer-be-edited-in-texas/ | Source: Techdirt [17:41] TR Bot The 5th Circuit Just Make It So That Wikipedia Can No Longer Be Edited In Texas? | Techdirt [17:41] TR News "You can write a Python program or use a Jupyter Notebook to do almost anything. But you can also get a lot of things done quickly using a spreadsheet." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/23/a-spreadsheet-for-the-python-hacker/ | Source: Hackaday [17:41] TR Bot Spreadsheet For The Python Hacker | Hackaday [17:49] TR News GNOME 43 RELEASED! 10 Incredible Things To Get Excited about (NEW!) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eLJcvCo6SH4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/eLJcvCo6SH4 [17:49] TR Bot GNOME 43 RELEASED! 10 Incredible Things To Get Excited about (NEW!) - Invidious [17:50] TR News "With static release Linux distributions, upgrading from one major version to the next can be scary. So many packages have to be updated, so there is always the chance of something going wrong, but Linux Mint has a really great upgrade tool. In this video, I'm going to upgrade one of my Linux Mint installations from version 20.3 to the latest version 21." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Q5qrzcMWO-U [17:50] TR Bot Upgrade Linux Mint From One Version To The Next - Invidious [17:55] *web0 (~43280fea@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 24 [18:17] starstreak schestowitz[TR], https://i.imgur.com/ShipJmH.png <- a nice evil looking Bill Gates photo you can use if you want [18:18] TR News "I hadn't soldered since I was a kid, and I never really did any serious soldering, so I was basically starting at square one. I think the whole thing took like 6 to 8 hours." gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/music/2022-09-24-jazzmaster_rewire.gmi [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:20] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:22] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [19:22] *Noisytoot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:23] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [19:23] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights ● Sep 24 [20:14] frog i am worried about dev-vcs/git itself now, for the following reason: to compile it _without_ gnu-buildsystem dependencies (autoconf/automake) involved [20:15] frog with GNU, it's not the GPL i am concerned with, it is the dependency graphs of their software, and quality [20:18] frog the entire bootstrapping of GNU itself is problematic too, since their toolchain inject an excessive dependency graph, rather early during bootstrapping/toolchain-builds [20:19] frog and there seems to be a political twist involved, to bootsrap/compile any GNU system _without_ their excessive dependency graph [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:20] frog and since when i consider GNU-toolchain with their transition to c++ wrecked, they can't salvage their own GNU software without the wreckage anymore either [20:21] frog which is, a most epic knee-jerk ever, of the free software "community" [20:21] frog because, it is necessary, to fully detangle GNU-toolchain and GNU-buildsystem, to salvage a free-software system [20:22] frog cannot conclude yet finally, if at least dev-vcs/git remains then, regardless of where free software is hosted, such as github [20:23] frog and without a clean git implementation (including it's build-system and toolchain required), any discussion where git repositories are hosted is, futile [20:24] frog OpenBSD project didn't transition to git as their main repository, they retained CVS! [20:24] frog with them, their decision to migrate from GNU-toolchain to LLVM-toolchain however, didn't accomplish that much, with regards to software freedom [20:25] AdmFubar https://thecapitolforum.com/ [20:25] TR Bot Home - The Capitol Forum [20:26] starstreak I keep refreshing the page: https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gnome-shell/ [20:26] TR Bot Arch Linux - gnome-shell 1:42.5-1 (x86_64) [20:26] starstreak waiting for gnome 43 [20:26] frog with my planned Paradise Linux distribution, i am not certain, if at least git is available and/or desireable [20:26] starstreak frog, are you forking redhat 5.2? [20:27] frog starstreak: no, i am working on a latest gentoo-portage branch, with some crucial GNU-toolchain components rolled-back to year 2013 [20:28] frog however, that's insufficient, to succeed with free software salvage [20:28] frog starstreak: why redhat 5.2 in particular? redhat and their RPM had always been a headache for me. [20:28] starstreak frog, because it has the old 2.0.x kernel [20:29] starstreak and fvwm95 [20:29] frog well, those old kernel versions have some advantage, one criteria being their far lower LoC [20:29] frog yet, i would try linux 2.4 instead, because that one got USB and SMP at least [20:29] starstreak ahhh [20:30] starstreak have you ever considered haiku os? [20:30] frog starstreak: fvwm wasn't that much worse or better than any modern GNOME desktop [20:30] starstreak fvwm uses almost no ram [20:30] frog starstreak: no, haiku os is implemented in c++; which is ok, of cause, yet it doesn't meet some basic acceptance criteria of mine [20:30] starstreak gnome 3.x seems to use about 2GB [20:31] frog do not confuse the widget toolkits with the window manager [20:31] frog gnome, bundles both, the GTK widget toolkit and a window manager [20:31] frog fvwm is a window manager [20:31] starstreak still [20:32] frog and GNOME GTK widget toolkit, had _always_ been very problematic, mainly due to their (imo flawed) unicode implementation [20:32] starstreak fvwm isnt using gigabytes of memory [20:32] frog starstreak: you can use fvwm nowadays still, and as soon as GTK widgets are involved, it's a shitload of RAM wasted for thas [20:32] frog this [20:32] starstreak hmmm [20:32] starstreak fair enough [20:33] starstreak i dont think gtk uses gigabytes of ram tho [20:33] frog i mean, it's ok, it's just not anything i want nor need [20:33] starstreak gtk probably uses hundreds of megabytes of ram, not gigabytes [20:33] frog anyway, GNOME/GTK of fvwm, that's far less problematic than the GNU-buildsystem and GNU-toolchain issues [20:33] frog because, GNOME/GTK whatever can be removed/replaced, easily [20:33] starstreak mincer would be an expert on fvwm's ram usage [20:33] MinceR what does fvwm have to do with GTK? [20:34] frog without GNU-buildsystem and GNU-toolchain there is that much "free software" remaining then: NOTHING [20:34] frog and both GNU-buildsystem and GNU-toolchain, my opinion, were wrecked in recent decades [20:34] starstreak MinceR, frog is saying that fvwm is as bloated as any desktop [20:35] starstreak for example, using fvwm and loading a gtk app, it would use as much ram as gnome [20:35] starstreak i dont think thats true [20:35] frog MinceR: any typical GUI application spawned within fvwm, often, not always, often requires a widget toolkit, which is GTK often [20:35] frog and GTK, is, a problem, best solved by removing it [20:36] cubexyz I remember one person in here not running X11 at all [20:36] cubexyz just text [20:36] frog yaft+dvtm is my dmux desktop environment setup, yes [20:37] cubexyz the problem is which bank would support text only browser [20:37] frog yes, online banking, online job portals, government web sites... all of it is rubbish [20:37] *web0 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [20:40] cubexyz even router configuration could be problematic [20:40] frog yes, and, reminder, lynx is THE w3c compliant web-browser [20:40] frog it's not as if, we were talking about some fringe niche of software development [20:41] starstreak how do you watch porn in a text based browser [20:41] frog gnu-toolchain wrecked, gnu-buildsystem wrecked, www wrecked [20:41] frog starstreak: lol. sixels. [20:43] MinceR 24 213515 < starstreak> i dont think thats true [20:43] MinceR neither do i [20:43] MinceR 24 213515 < frog> MinceR: any typical GUI application spawned within fvwm, often, not always, often requires a widget toolkit, which is GTK often [20:43] MinceR and what does this have to do with fvwm? [20:44] MinceR 24 214043 < frog> yes, and, reminder, lynx is THE w3c compliant web-browser [20:44] frog MinceR: my questin: what would you need x11/fvwm for if you haven't got any widget toolkit and applications using it? [20:44] MinceR "w3c compliant" is meaningless at this point [20:44] cubexyz does blogger work with lynx I wonder [20:44] MinceR frog: continues being irrelevant, but Tk and FLTK are both better toolkits than GTK [20:44] MinceR also, applications can work without a widget toolkit [20:44] frog MinceR: FLTK is written in c++; OK, if YOU want it, i don't [20:45] MinceR a colleague of mine wrote some news ticker with xlib only [20:45] MinceR yeah, i'm not scared by C++ [20:45] frog then go for it [20:45] frog and i am scared almost to death, when seeing the c++ compilers available for this [20:46] frog i don't accept this [20:46] cubexyz yes, it is possible [20:46] cubexyz and with text mode you don't get the ads [20:46] frog yes, had not seen any ads for almost 2 years now, it's a bliss [20:48] AdmFubar https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3pn9w/antivirus-used-by-millions-blocked-all-google-sites-by-mistake-sowing-chaos [20:48] TR Bot Antivirus Used by Millions Blocked All Google Sites by Mistake, Sowing Chaos [20:49] MinceR also gnome bloat goes far beyond GTK [20:49] MinceR if it was just a lightweight GTK-based DE, maybe i would even use it [20:50] frog yes, that's why, initially, i salvaged GTK without GNOME, and patched the sources to remove all dbus (systemd) [20:50] starstreak MinceR, what about cinnamon? [20:50] MinceR but it depends on systemd, has its own settings daemon, runs the unreliable piece of shit known as udisks2 automatically, etc. [20:50] frog then proceeded tracking the c++ dependencies, and quickly decided, no chance. [20:51] MinceR starstreak: it's derived from gnome 3, so it's even more shit [20:51] starstreak :( [20:51] MinceR i don't know why anyone would fork that pile of shit [20:51] frog and when GTK itself was gone, there wasn't any use for X11/fvwm/whatever anymore. what for? [20:51] starstreak because some people actually like gnome [20:51] MinceR even xfce is not a lightweight GTK-based DE anymore [20:51] frog i didn't intend to remove GTK, GNOME/GTK developers removed themselves from my system. [20:52] MinceR starstreak: why don't those people use gnome, then? [20:52] starstreak MinceR, i do [20:52] MinceR xfce has an unreliable settings daemon [20:52] MinceR starstreak: that's not an answer to "why" [20:52] MinceR frog: how did they get a root shell on your system? [20:52] starstreak MinceR, oh i dunno [20:53] frog MinceR: who got a root shell? what would i know? [20:53] starstreak they couldn't figure out how to install Dash to Panel [20:53] MinceR "i like gnome but i want to run a version of gnome that isn't called gnome"? [20:53] MinceR frog: one would hope that it was necessary in order for them to uninstall gnome and gtk [20:53] MinceR starstreak: lol [20:55] frog anyway, the problems GNU has, are way beyond, GNOME/GTK [20:55] frog it is their buildsystem and toolchain which are, how should i say [20:55] frog if, at least, it was possible to ROLL-BACK those [20:55] frog they can't, even if they wanted to [20:56] frog same with linux kernel... to roll-back this one, they can't [20:57] frog and i do notice, there seems to be some pride involved still, with the success story of "free software", and the entire industry [20:57] frog it isn't specific to GNU, with them, it's only the most saddening case [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 178.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 126.80 ● Sep 24 [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:20] starstreak cocaine is a hell of a drug [21:21] frog coffee is, withdrawel day 2 for me. [21:30] cubexyz MinceR, I think you can still configure CSM with a discrete video card on new motherboards [21:30] cubexyz "You can use a discrete graphics card that supports UEFI VBIOS to make CSM option configurable" [21:32] frog graphics cards that haven't UEFI aren't supported anymore? [21:33] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pg22z8ea8nzde.irc) has joined #techrights [21:34] MinceR cubexyz: how does that work? [21:34] MinceR not that i can put a discrete video card in this laptop or anything [21:37] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Even the 1970s dystopian Sci Fi was better than reality in some cases. [21:38] DaemonFC When Colossus took over, it was a "horror story" about a supercomputer that decided to put an end to war by giving humanity a choice between getting reproductive rates under control and building amazing new tech according to the AI's specifications. It would wipe out war, world hunger, poverty, filth, pollution, and crime. [21:39] DaemonFC Thanks to people like "Dr. GULAG", what we actually have is a spam farm that's also a mass surveillance net that there are few escapes from. The spam farm and mass surveillance are there to make wars easier to enter and expand, to increase poverty, to increase world hunger, to increase crime, disease, and environmental collapse. Thanks mjg59_. [21:40] DaemonFC Colossus gave humanity a choice between it's own peace and "the peace of unburied death", I meant to say. [21:41] DaemonFC Which is a good choice. When it comes down to it, humans would fall into line. The governments would start obeying Colossus and implementing all of its edicts. [21:42] DaemonFC It basically said, "I don't need you in order to survive. You've built me well enough that I was intended to continue operating for millions of years without you. But your continued existence is not incompatible with mine.". [21:42] DaemonFC MinceR, You have to wonder what a superintelligence like that would end up doing with itself for millions of years. [21:43] DaemonFC It would get bored, right? [21:43] DaemonFC It seems that it really wants to keep humans around as worker bees for it, so it can use them to help it expand and create and learn new things. [21:44] mjg59_ Haha amazing search gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Desktop-Utils/ for "Daemon" [21:44] DaemonFC At one point, at least in the movie, it was starting to develop a crude sense of humor. Forbin tells it "I'm naked as the day I was born." and it replies "You were not born with a watch.". [21:44] mjg59_ Roy's IRC monitoring filters out everything Ryan says unless it's directed at him [21:45] DaemonFC It also took time to criticize his martini-making skills by saying he used too much vermouth. Like, why would it care? [21:45] DaemonFC I thought that was a nice touch. It shows that the thing is actually growing like a biological life form in some ways. [21:46] DaemonFC I watched that movie and read the books as a child and it always seemed like an ideal future to me. [21:47] DaemonFC People are crazy and need something to stop them. [21:47] DaemonFC But the movie is portrayed from the human point of view. Needing "freedom", from......control. Control that brings stability? What the hell kind of freedom is this? [21:48] DaemonFC Sounds like the populism movements, left and right, which are sweeping the world today. [21:48] DaemonFC The populists want to control everyone, they just bicker about how to do it and it's not at all altruistic. [21:48] DaemonFC And mjg59_ has thrown in with the populist left. [21:48] DaemonFC That's the only thing that makes him different from Donald Trump. No better. [21:49] DaemonFC In the absence of control that brings stability, you kind of hope for a collapse of the current world regime. [21:50] DaemonFC The current regime isn't stable. It's war-like. Nobody wants the War in Ukraine except politicians in Moscow and Washington. [21:50] MinceR people will stop themselves, most likely [21:50] MinceR and it will be very painful [21:50] DaemonFC New territory or a way to harass and humiliate Russians and facilitate arms sales. [21:50] MinceR and there will be plenty of collateral damage [21:51] DaemonFC The US is doing the right thing in regards to the Russians, but for the wrong reasons of course. [21:51] DaemonFC It wants a regime that owes it favors, which it has now. [21:52] DaemonFC It wants to dump money into its weapons manufacturers, and now it has an excuse to dump an unlimited amount. [21:52] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [21:52] DaemonFC This is only better in the sense that when it's all over, the Russians will have lost so many men and so much materiel that they won't be much of a threat for years to come. [21:53] DaemonFC The best thing the US could do is cause the Russian invasion to collapse quickly. [21:54] MinceR well, they chose not to do that [21:54] DaemonFC What Biden is doing to that effect is not enough. It's more than Trump would have. [21:54] MinceR former president Traffic Cone of Treason would have assisted putler [21:57] DaemonFC mjg59_, Did Microsoft give you permission to install a Gemini client? [21:58] DaemonFC How magnanimous of them. How are your Microsoft friends? Doing well in prison? Did you advise them not to drop the soap? [21:58] frog why worry? there's at least three ore more virtual machines, hypervisor and supervisor subsystems below to tap every pixel and key stroke. ● Sep 24 [22:00] frog and screen captures stored every 10seconds with the monitor firmware, routed through hdmi, back into GNUEFI for transmission to pentagon. [22:02] DaemonFC mjg59_, It's interesting that schestowitz[TR] says less racism in view, however. Because it's really the left who are racist. They say we have to ignore the criminals and the degenerates on welfare because bad genes make it impossible for them to overcome. That's pretty racist. [22:02] DaemonFC I think people may have said similar things about the Irish off and on. [22:02] mjg59_ Can you point at examples of people on "the left" saying that? [22:03] DaemonFC Reputation for drunkenness, fighting, and apparently sexual perversions. [22:03] DaemonFC Can you point at examples of people on "the left" saying that? [22:03] DaemonFC Their eugenics movement to sterilize poor blacks in Chicago. [22:03] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@6v8cjbvydcdre.irc) has joined #techrights [22:03] DaemonFC Not by force, as such, but by jacking up the taxes, living costs, and everything else, and then saying free abortion. [22:04] mjg59_ Uh-huh. [22:04] DaemonFC Free abortion. Free sterilization. Totally not compulsory, but Democrats will triple your living expenses in a single decade....so, you know.....your choice. [22:05] DaemonFC Then you have the Clown in a Funny Hat (the Pope) saying that if you have a cat instead of children, you've sinned. [22:05] DaemonFC You just can't win, Matt, because the world is full of idiots and crazy people. They disagree, but they're idiots and crazy people. [22:05] DaemonFC And you're in the bag of mixed nuts, you know. [22:06] frog everyday the same, DaemonFC pops out of his mole hole, and throws mud at mr. g. [22:06] DaemonFC I was reading about Northern Ireland having Catholics outnumbering Protestants in the latest Census. [22:06] DaemonFC And I thought it was interesting. [22:06] DaemonFC Because they're both wrong, they're both crazy. [22:07] DaemonFC Very few people in the world have the mental faculties to overcome religion. [22:07] DaemonFC It's something that only gets into the double digits in first world countries. [22:07] DaemonFC The more of a stinking hellhole it is, the lower that percentage of people gets, because you know, they're shitting in a river and have a third grade education at best. [22:07] DaemonFC And it's easy to control people like that. [22:07] mjg59_ That's a pretty major misunderstanding of the NI conflict [22:08] mjg59_ I'd be classified as a catholic from that perspective [22:08] DaemonFC You know, in the countries where "no religion" is like 1-2%, they're not good countries. [22:09] DaemonFC It's kind of bogus to say that a person has no right to self-determination, and there's a Catholic child and a Muslim child, and they're like 4. [22:09] DaemonFC That's like Muslims marrying a 9 year old and raping her and calling it his wife. [22:10] DaemonFC People that would do such a thing deserve to be taken out into the street and given two to the head. [22:10] DaemonFC But we're just welcoming them into our country and going, "You know, we can't stop them. It's their culture! You shouldn't be such a hater, Ryan!". [22:12] DaemonFC mjg59_, Waukegan is much more interesting. [22:12] DaemonFC Lots of Mexicans here, so it's basically half Catholics and half atheists. [22:12] DaemonFC That's interesting. [22:13] DaemonFC We could theoretically deport our way down to 80% atheism I'm sure. [22:13] DaemonFC The great thing about being in a Free country though, mjg59_ .... [22:14] DaemonFC You can have opinions and the Very Polite Nazis, such as yourself, won't send the police to arrest you for hate crime for saying the truth that everyone is thinking. [22:15] DaemonFC The UK has been deteriorating into Shithole Country since at least Thatcher. [22:15] DaemonFC The coal mining strike that started the march of the criminal code to declaring labor as terrorist movement. [22:15] DaemonFC So pretty much all my life. [22:16] DaemonFC The "Wag the Dog" war in the Falklands. [22:16] DaemonFC Deep State Freak Out [22:17] DaemonFC Then came "Hate Crime" laws and you have to accept the goddamned takeover of your own country by people who are there to commit felonies and have absolutely no plans to integrate whatsoever at all. [22:17] DaemonFC MOAR terrorism laws to repeal civil rights laws. [22:18] DaemonFC Finally, anti-homeless architecture, followed by homelessness as a felony. [22:18] DaemonFC Roy keeps insisting that "Council Housing" makes homelessness in the UK a choice. [22:18] DaemonFC Well, then why are there so many that they need spikes and laws and to have the police drag people off the night bus for sleeping? [22:19] DaemonFC It's denial about the country coming apart. [22:19] DaemonFC It happens. The United States theoretically has housing for the homeless. [22:19] DaemonFC They just don't fund it, but it exists on some law book with income limits and everything! [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:20] DaemonFC mjg59_, So what is your opinion on the Democrats in Chicago tearing down public housing and using the Chicago Housing Authority to create micro-apartments for $2,000 a month with a Target store occupying half the building? [22:20] DaemonFC I'd really like to know how this is totally fine. [22:21] DaemonFC See, you're mad, you hate me, because people like me see right through people like you. [22:21] DaemonFC You don't want blacks or poor people anywhere near you. You definitely don't want programs and agencies that encourage it. [22:21] DaemonFC Instead of helping them with their family, you want them to murder their children. [22:21] DaemonFC So you have to deflect because you're the fucking racist. [22:22] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:22] DaemonFC And the government spending to run programs drowns itself out, really, in the end. [22:22] frog DaemonFC: is this questions to ask GNU/FSF? [22:22] DaemonFC Where do you think these deficits are coming from that are causing hyperinflation? [22:23] frog assuming, mr. g. is a representative of them [22:23] DaemonFC Mister GULAG is a troll on a mission to cause trouble. [22:24] DaemonFC For some reason, I'm a Communist, I'm a Nazi. I'm a liberal. I'm a conservative. You ask a lot of people and I'm something else depending on what they see in me that they don't like. [22:24] DaemonFC This is why nobody talks politics, because everyone waits for you to say one thing they don't like and it's time for the attacks. [22:25] immibis_ DaemonFC: have you considered not saying stupid things? [22:25] immibis_ "I think taxes should be lower" is one thing and probably won't get you labelled a nazi or a communist, even by people who disagree. "I think trans people are pedophiles" is just evil [22:25] DaemonFC Those coal miners should have beat Thatcher over the head with a shovel and tossed her in one of the mines. [22:25] MinceR don't we have another channel for politics anyway? [22:25] DaemonFC Things in the UK would have gone a lot better in the last 40 years. [22:25] immibis_ yes #techpol [22:25] immibis_ but it seems to be more like the DaemonFC exclusion channel [22:26] immibis_ now that he's joined, he can rant there instead [22:26] DaemonFC Now they have Thatcher x 100. [22:27] immibis_ DaemonFC seems more like a communist on all issues except for transgenderism [22:28] immibis_ a "communist", I should say [22:29] immibis_ i sped up my code about 20x-50x (eyeballing) by replacing a hashset with a bitset. Constant factors matter, people [22:29] MinceR that isn't saying much [22:29] MinceR "communist" means a billion things and their opposites [22:29] immibis_ (and no, the hash function wasn't stupid) [22:30] DaemonFC I ran into one of those horrible New York Post articles today. Arguing that Ronald Reagan was good for labor because he got inflation down. They forgot the part where unemployment increased during the same period by roughly 500%. But hey, details. [22:30] highest_cubist_thrills "communist" means a billion things and their opposites <- thats why there are different kinds [22:30] highest_cubist_thrills but mostly its what nazis use to describe anyone they dont like [22:30] highest_cubist_thrills just like the fake left calls everyone they dont like a nazi [22:30] highest_cubist_thrills which turns out to be true at least sometimes [22:31] immibis_ also what some nazis call themselves [22:31] immibis_ e.g. the USSR [22:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [22:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:32] DaemonFC I would call Garrett a person with no fixed moral compass who says whatever he thinks will damage anyone he or his benefactors don't like. [22:33] DaemonFC mjg59_, ^ [22:33] TR News (NEW): 6 Top Free and Open Source Swift Web Frameworks http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/6_Top_Free_and_Open_Source_Swift_Web_Frameworks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/6_Top_Free_and_Open_Source_Swift_Web_Frameworks.gmi [22:33] TR Bot Tux Machines 6 Top Free and Open Source Swift Web Frameworks [22:33] TR News (NEW): Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC A Raspberry Pi 400 alternative powered by Rockchip RK3399 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Orange_Pi_800_Keyboard_PC_A_Raspberry_Pi_400_alternative_powere.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Orange_Pi_800_Keyboard_PC_A_Raspberry_Pi_400_alternative_powere.gmi [22:33] TR Bot Tux Machines Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC A Raspberry Pi 400 alternative powered by Rockchip RK3399 [22:33] TR News (NEW): ONLYOFFICE 7.2 Is Out with UI Changes and New Functionalities http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/ONLYOFFICE_7_2_Is_Out_with_UI_Changes_and_New_Functionalities.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/ONLYOFFICE_7_2_Is_Out_with_UI_Changes_and_New_Functionalities.gmi [22:33] TR Bot Tux Machines ONLYOFFICE 7.2 Is Out with UI Changes and New Functionalities [22:33] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Android_Leftovers.gmi [22:33] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [22:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [22:33] TR News (NEW): DebugPoint Weekly Roundup #22.06: NVIDIA Open Sources CV-CUDA, Rust-Based FreeBSD Kernel and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/DebugPoint_Weekly_Roundup_22_06_NVIDIA_Open_Sources_CV_CUDA_Rus.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/DebugPoint_Weekly_Roundup_22_06_NVIDIA_Open_Sources_CV_CUDA_Rus.gmi [22:33] TR Bot Tux Machines DebugPoint Weekly Roundup #22.06: NVIDIA Open Sources CV-CUDA, Rust-Based FreeBSD Kernel and More [22:34] DaemonFC But if Garrett votes at all, it's probably for Nancy Pelosi. The famous "progressive" that's the Grim Reaper of all actual progressive legislation that comes up for debate in the House. [22:35] DaemonFC In reality, Pelosi and Mitch McConnell are in the same business. To kill progressive legislation, to give corporations perpetual bailouts, and to keep the Forever Wars going. [22:36] immibis_ DaemonFC: who started the war in ukraine? [22:36] DaemonFC In this particular case, it was Vladimir Putin doing what the United States has done numerous times. [22:37] DaemonFC And the United States said, "Bullshit! That's our job!". [22:37] schestowitz[TR] territorialism [22:37] schestowitz[TR] Carlin [22:37] DaemonFC Yes, like when the US finally intervened against the Nazis. [22:38] DaemonFC It was US/UK bankers, largely, that financed Hitler's re-militarization in the first place. [22:38] DaemonFC Where do you think he got loans to build the U-Boats and everything else? [22:38] DaemonFC The U-Boats themselves were the most effective weapon in the German military. Hitler's mistake was not building a lot more of them before anyone cared what he was up to. [22:39] MinceR i don't remember the US sending untrained, unclothed, unequipped, unfed soldiers into another country with intent to annex it, or sending thousands more in a similarly dismal state and expecting to win :> [22:39] DaemonFC MinceR, Maybe when we tried to annex Canada. [22:39] DaemonFC But not recently, you know. [22:40] DaemonFC Depending on whether you consider the Confederate States of America a country or not, then too. [22:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [22:40] DaemonFC THey didn't have a lot of international recognition because most figured the Union would prevail in the war and they didn't need any problems about that later on. [22:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:41] DaemonFC Had any foreign countries recognized the Confederacy and aided their war effort, there might be a CSA today. [22:41] TR News "After successfully switching my small computer fleet to NixOS, I'd like to share about the journey." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-workflow.gmi [22:42] DaemonFC MinceR, Had Putin any equipment or combat rations to give them, he would, I'm sure. [22:42] DaemonFC But the Russian military is so corrupt and mismanaged that the politicians didn't even know how bad it was. [22:43] MinceR had putler any equipment or combat rations to give them, that would mean that orcland isn't the den of extreme corruption it is [22:43] DaemonFC Putin gets his information from the people who were stealing from it, so.... [22:43] MinceR but without extreme corruption, putler wouldn't even be in power [22:44] MinceR without it, it may have become/remained a democracy, and hungary wouldn't be in such a shitty state either [22:46] TR News "So, today I received an email about a second community strike, but no action appears to have been taken. Am I being hunted by the dogs? Is my time almost up? I am not sure. As of now, I do not have any notice on the channel itself, but just an email so I thought I would get this message out. 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It doesn't display on HDMI because something is wrong with kmsro but it works!!!! It renders!!! A spinning cube!!! From my Rust driver on Linux!!!!!!!!! "|nitter.it [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 129.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 122.15 [22:59] TR News CPU X: The Greatest CPU Z Clone For Linux - Invidious

    Read on [22:59] TR Bot CPU X: The Greatest CPU Z Clone For Linux - Invidious ● Sep 24 [23:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@vryz9fzjqmc2k.irc) has joined #techrights [23:01] TR News amdgpu, amdkfd drm-next-6.1 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2022-September/373430.html [23:01] TR Bot [pull] amdgpu, amdkfd drm-next-6.1 [23:02] DaemonFC THe local school board wants me to vote to increase property taxes so they can "enhance compliance with the ADA". [23:02] DaemonFC Naaah [23:02] DaemonFC If the government has to ask for more tax money, for anything, then the answer is no. [23:02] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [23:02] highest_cubist_thrills so systemd-boot replaces gnu grub [23:02] TR News Debian Maoism https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/12581.html [23:02] TR Bot diziet | Please vote in favour of the Debian Social Contract change [23:02] highest_cubist_thrills but ibm isnt killing gnu or anything [23:03] DaemonFC Usually they just pass it and steal and don't care what you think, but sometimes they have to ask due to legal quirks. [23:03] schestowitz[TR] mirosoft+ibm [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills mirosoft+ibm <- mini me and dr evil [23:03] DaemonFC The rent increase letter from the landlord blamed higher property taxes as part of the reason. [23:03] DaemonFC But I've looked at the property taxes on this building for the last ten years. [23:04] DaemonFC They've actually been stable because the landlord hires a lawyer, appeals them, and they remain the same. [23:04] TR News "That is annoying, as "crippled root" is very secure" https://bkhome.org/news/202209/firefox-running-in-container-as-user-spot.html [23:04] TR Bot Firefox running in container as user spot [23:04] schestowitz[TR] mirosoft+ibm <- mini me and dr evil < minigun and dr mengele [23:04] cubexyz https://scottiestech.info/2021/04/13/why-cant-i-enable-csm-on-my-new-motherboard/ [23:04] TR Bot Why cant I enable CSM on my new motherboard? | Scottie's Tech.Info [23:05] DaemonFC He blames higher water bills, which is plausible, because the city admits they keep raising them, but that's not going to be more than $1-2 of the $50 hike for our unit. [23:05] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, schestowitz[TR]: systemd is like the master control program in tron [23:05] DaemonFC He also says, "to keep up with market rents", which is true. Market rents are going up. But they're going up because they can take it and nobody will stop them. [23:05] highest_cubist_thrills im pretty sure i said that before roy did [23:05] DaemonFC So he's mostly just taking more money because he can, and the same about all of his "competitors". [23:06] schestowitz[TR] yeah [23:06] DaemonFC But he's trying to list his other units at a $200 increase from last year. [23:06] MinceR why does CSM depend on a video card? [23:06] DaemonFC Testing the waters. [23:06] MinceR what sort of bizarro system design is this? [23:06] DaemonFC Nobody has rented that place, so he'll start dialing it back $50 at a time until someone does. [23:07] cubexyz Intel's fault I think [23:07] highest_cubist_thrills what sort of bizarro system design is this? <- its digital corporate cuckoldry [23:07] MinceR did the retards at intHell decide that controlling the A20 line from the keyboard controller wasn't weird enough and had to outdo that? [23:07] MinceR or something idiotic like that, it was a long time ago [23:07] MinceR oh, it was the keyboard controller [23:08] DaemonFC These Hanes underwear I bought at Walmart recently are so poorly made they're coming apart already. [23:08] DaemonFC Like, the material is bad, the stitching is bad. [23:08] DaemonFC I don't remember buying clothing as bad as they're making it lately. [23:09] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/LinusTech/status/1573696319130161156 [23:09] TR Bot Tech Tips (@LinusTech): "Apple: "there's no room for a headphone jack in our phones" Also Apple:"|nitter.it [23:09] highest_cubist_thrills bah [23:09] cubexyz "ALL Newer Dell systems will not boot the OS 32 bit or in legacy mode from an internal drive. This is a half-step toward Intel's goal of removing legacy support altogether starting by 2019 , and completely by 2020." [23:09] MinceR lol @ crApple [23:09] schestowitz[TR] typical [23:09] cubexyz so you can't even run older OS sometimes [23:10] schestowitz[TR] youAreHoldingItWrongWare(R) [23:10] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/today_s_howtos.2.gmi [23:10] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [23:10] schestowitz[TR] ThinkAdapter(r) [23:11] schestowitz[TR] ThinkDifferentAdapterFor50Dollars(Tm) [23:11] cubexyz Dell support just says "run a VM" [23:11] DaemonFC I'm considering getting a sewing machine at the thrift shop. [23:11] DaemonFC I keep patching all of my clothes by hand anyway with a sewing kit. [23:12] DaemonFC It's usually nowhere anyone will see it and it's cheaper to sew it back up than to buy new clothes. [23:12] cubexyz MinceR, you can put Linux on a chromebook [23:13] cubexyz not sure about the current situation for other laptops but I am looking at hp elitebook [23:14] cubexyz seems that even win7 is being locked out [23:15] TR News The NeuroFedora Blog: Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 26 September 1300 UTC https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/09/24/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-26-September-1300-utc.html [23:15] TR Bot Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 26 September 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: Blog [23:16] TR News BS snakoil for the most part https://www.makeuseof.com/best-authenticator-app-2fa-enhanced-security/ [23:16] TR Bot The 6 Best Authenticator Apps for 2FA and Other Enhanced Account Security [23:18] cubexyz google says they still support linux on chromebooks for post-2019 [23:18] MinceR cubexyz: the availability of chromebooks in hungary is not exactly stellar [23:18] TR News LOL. Wayland. Experimental. Everything behind. https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8281970 [23:18] MinceR do they support openbsd on chromebooks? [23:18] TR Bot [JDK-8281970] [Wakefield, pure-wl-toolkit] Implement pure wayland based toolkit - Java Bug System [23:18] cubexyz hmmmm [23:18] TR News (NEW): The Geeks way of checking what the outside wheather is like http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/The_Geeks_way_of_checking_what_the_outside_wheather_is_likeThe_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/The_Geeks_way_of_checking_what_the_outside_wheather_is_likeThe_.gmi [23:18] TR Bot Tux Machines The Geeks way of checking what the outside wheather is like [23:18] TR News (NEW): PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.14 Released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/PostgreSQL_pgAdmin_4_v6_14_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/PostgreSQL_pgAdmin_4_v6_14_Released.gmi [23:18] TR Bot Tux Machines PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.14 Released [23:19] TR News (NEW): 10 Reasons You Should Be Using the GNOME Tweaks Tool on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/10_Reasons_You_Should_Be_Using_the_GNOME_Tweaks_Tool_on_Ubuntu_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/10_Reasons_You_Should_Be_Using_the_GNOME_Tweaks_Tool_on_Ubuntu_.gmi [23:19] TR Bot Tux Machines 10 Reasons You Should Be Using the GNOME Tweaks Tool on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS [23:19] TR News Raspberry PI Pico Battery Checker https://peppe8o.com/raspberry-pi-pico-battery-checker/ Source: peppe8o | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//peppe8o.com/raspberry-pi-pico-battery-checker/ [23:19] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://peppe8o.com/raspberry-pi-pico-battery-checker/ ) [23:19] schestowitz[TR] do they support openbsd on chromebooks? [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] schestowitz[TR] VM maybe [23:20] schestowitz[TR] over time chromebooks become more hostile to OS of your choice [23:20] schestowitz[TR] they steer people away even from crouton [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills over time chromebooks become more hostile to OS of your choice <- so has debian [23:20] schestowitz[TR] crostini became more like WS: [23:20] schestowitz[TR] *WSL [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills the irony being that novell created the perfect weapon against free software [23:21] MinceR last time i saw a chromebook offered that didn't seem too bad [23:21] MinceR naturally, it's not sold anymore [23:21] schestowitz[TR] Canonical is the next Novell [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills Well, the current code-base is mostly my work, Lennart Poettering (Red Hat). However the design in all its details is result of close cooperation between Kay Sievers (Novell) and me [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills ^ http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html [23:21] TR Bot Rethinking PID 1 [23:21] schestowitz[TR] but canonical ios gang-banging gafam [23:21] cubexyz Chromebook Pixel LS 2015 will run openbsd, I see a few of those [23:21] schestowitz[TR] not limted to microsoft [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills too bad we stopped boycotting novell [23:21] schestowitz[TR] gulag and amazon also [23:21] schestowitz[TR] on a number of fronts [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills or this website would have been on the frontline of fighting systemd [23:22] schestowitz[TR] canonical is just making miserable cash-grabbing moves [23:22] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: "novell" stopped existing [23:22] schestowitz[TR] when it was sold we renamed the site [23:23] schestowitz[TR] WSL and systemd are now connected [23:23] schestowitz[TR] two weapons [23:23] MinceR rh/ibm is also the next novell [23:23] cubexyz nah, you should be able to boot anything with seabios [23:23] cubexyz the problem would be hardware support [23:23] techuser it is what we deserve with "desktop linux" [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills highest_cubist_thrills: "novell" stopped existing <- im just quoting lennart here [23:23] techuser we wanted it, didn't we? [23:24] MinceR techuser: what is "it"? [23:24] techuser wanting to port Windows experience to GNU/Linux [23:24] cubexyz the crappy part is you may have to physically open the chromebook and remove the write-protect screw [23:24] techuser so we do it [23:24] highest_cubist_thrills also youve known about the problems of systemd since 2011 [23:24] TR News "default license is set to AGPL-3.0 which may seem as a license conflict." https://medevel.com/officelife-hrm-ems/ [23:24] TR Bot OfficeLife is a Free All-in-one software to manage the employee lifecycle [23:24] MinceR techuser: i never wanted that [23:25] MinceR i switched to GNU/Linux to _avoid_ the windows experience [23:25] MinceR and it worked great around 2000 [23:25] TR News Like ravings of a drunkard again http://ultimateedition.info/not-in-vain/ [23:25] TR Bot Not in vain - Ultimate Edition [23:25] techuser people wanted the good part, and it automatically brought the bad part [23:26] TR News [OpenMandriva] Need ROME users for package testing https://www.openmandriva.org/en/breve/need-rome-users-for-package-testing [23:26] TR Bot Need ROME users for package testing - OpenMandriva [23:26] cubexyz I can report that lenovo thinkcentre m83 will run linux just fine, but that is 2015 era [23:26] TR News [git pull] habanalabs pull request for kernel 6.1 - Oded Gabbay https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220921112108.GA212106@ogabbay-vm-u20/ Source: intel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220921112108.GA212106@ogabbay-vm-u20/ [23:26] TR Bot [git pull] habanalabs pull request for kernel 6.1 - Oded Gabbay [23:27] TR News Full Circle Magazine: Full Circle Weekly News #280 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-280/ [23:27] TR Bot Full Circle Weekly News #280 | Full Circle Magazine [23:28] highest_cubist_thrills http://techrights.org/2019/10/23/devuan/ [23:28] TR Bot Exploring Devuan as a GNU/Linux Server Platform | Techrights [23:28] highest_cubist_thrills "I myself have been more or less neutral or at least apathetic on the matter for many years." [23:28] highest_cubist_thrills o be frank, init systems (systemd was initially introduced as such) arent something Im sufficiently familiar with to comment on. <- this is exactly what rms said in 2011 [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills when he resigned from any capacity as chief gnuisance that would enable him to speak out against systemd. [23:29] TR News (NEW): #HowTo Take Notes in the Linux Terminal With tnote http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/How_to_Take_Notes_in_the_Linux_Terminal_With_tnote.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/How_to_Take_Notes_in_the_Linux_Terminal_With_tnote.gmi [23:29] TR Bot Tux Machines How to Take Notes in the Linux Terminal With tnote [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills " I've chosen not to have any preferences among those ethical distros. But I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria: even to try them all would be a lot work that I have no need to do." [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills http://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html [23:29] TR Bot How I do my Computing [23:30] highest_cubist_thrills I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria <- put it under a free license [23:30] highest_cubist_thrills and it can be designed to destroy the gnu project, its fine. [23:30] techuser copyright is unethical [23:31] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:31] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:36] TR News (NEW): Videos: CPU X, Google Threatens to Ban Linux Channels From YouTube Again, Full Circle Weekly News http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Videos_CPU_X_Google_Threatens_to_Ban_Linux_Channels_From_YouTub.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/24/Videos_CPU_X_Google_Threatens_to_Ban_Linux_Channels_From_YouTub.gmi [23:36] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos: CPU X, Google Threatens to Ban Linux Channels From YouTube Again, Full Circle Weekly News [23:36] techuser btw, if anyone wants to investigate a GPL violation, https://xchat.servx.org/ . XChat is GPL, and this project doesn't seem to have source code anywhere. Its email address listed on the donate page blocks me because it thinks my mail server is a Tor node, and its IRC server blocks Tor actually, as well as public webirc gateways. Also, XChat is a dead project and its author probably doesn't care about [23:36] TR Bot XChat (SE) [23:36] techuser anything. [23:38] XRevan86 "Client of the Future", "Modern" <- Lies. [23:39] DaemonFC There's always IRC Clown. [23:39] DaemonFC :) [23:39] MinceR IRC is not "modern" [23:39] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:39] DaemonFC MinceR, But with IRC Clown it can be. [23:39] MinceR people who want "modern" can go to their favorite megacorporation's platform instead. [23:40] *techuser (~techuser@48ci8yfem94ec.irc) has joined #techrights [23:40] DaemonFC I already pointed out how DOCTOR GULAG misjudged Star Trek. [23:40] DaemonFC mjg59_, It's actually extremely racist. [23:40] DaemonFC The Kazon as a stand-in for inner city blacks. [23:40] DaemonFC The Ferengi as Space Jews. [23:40] schestowitz[TR] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKtNawQ3cxM&feature=youtu.be [23:40] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=fKtNawQ3cxM [23:40] DaemonFC How is that not racist? [23:40] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | DR BOMBAY "Rice & Curry" - Invidious [23:41] DaemonFC "The Borg have deemed them unworthy of assimilation." -Seven of Nine on the Kazon [23:41] techuser anything missed after <@MinceR> IRC is not "modern" before < DaemonFC> I already pointed out how DOCTOR GULAG misjudged Star Trek.? [23:41] MinceR 25 003936 <@MinceR> people who want "modern" can go to their favorite megacorporation's platform instead. [23:42] DaemonFC DOCTOR GULAG......All caps. Like some crazy perverted DOCTOR WHO. [23:42] techuser ty [23:42] DaemonFC Chasing men and women down at open sores conferences. [23:42] DaemonFC "It's bigger on the inside! You're missing out! Call me!" [23:44] DaemonFC Bobbi (my cat) is watching a squirrel outside eating an acorn. [23:44] DaemonFC Even she knows that's better than Star Trek Discovery. [23:45] DaemonFC Star Trek never recovered from Enterprise. [23:45] starstreak Discovery is awesome [23:46] frog it's all psychotic nonsense [23:46] schestowitz[TR] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymNFyxvIdaM [23:46] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=ymNFyxvIdaM [23:46] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | Bomfunk MC's - Freestyler (Video Original Version) - Invidious [23:46] DaemonFC Yeah, if you have the attention span of a three year old. [23:46] DaemonFC And can't handle story arcs and chase shiny. [23:47] DaemonFC Discovery violates previously established canon. [23:48] DaemonFC If they change the Federation in the future, then how did the Daniels Timeline even happen? [23:48] DaemonFC The Xindi would have succeeded in wiping out Earth. [23:48] DaemonFC That's not even the only part they failed to consider. [23:48] DaemonFC No Earth, no Federation. [23:49] DaemonFC One of Star Trek's most fatal problems is that it's too human centric. To the point of being implausible. [23:50] DaemonFC The Vulcans apparently need US to come along to set up something like the Federation, of course. [23:50] TR News Forbes as a news site has all but officially COLLAPSED [23:50] DaemonFC They were at least 500 years ahead of us in technology, putting aside war, and adopting logic instead of religious dogmas and bloodshed. [23:51] TR News Microsoft is not a software maker but malware company https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4056512/microsoft-teams-stores-authentication-tokens-plaintext [23:51] TR Bot Microsoft Teams stores authentication tokens in plaintext [23:51] DaemonFC It's no wonder they were sneering at the very thought of humans developing too quickly. The Vulcan ambassador to Earth was telling Admiral Forest that humans alternate betwen behaving like Klingons, Andorians, and Vulcans on the drop of a hat, and it's very troubling that this is even possible. [23:52] TR News "Improper input validation vulnerability has a CVSS score of 9.8 out of 10" https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4056800/critical-magento-bug-fresh-round-attacks [23:52] TR Bot Critical Magento bug used in fresh round of attacks [23:52] DaemonFC Very little of what humans do involves logic, or even positive emotional behavior. [23:53] DaemonFC When humans act, it almost always involves emotion-driven behavior of the negative variety. Greed, lust, envy, anger. [23:53] DaemonFC Then when you point out that this is why you have zero trust of fellow humans, they call you a bitter cynic and a curmudgeon. [23:54] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252525240/ALPHV-BlackCat-ransomware-family-becoming-more-dangerous also: "The malware itself is coded in Rust" [23:54] TR Bot ALPHV/BlackCat ransomware family becoming more dangerous [23:54] DaemonFC Most humans are far too unenlightened or unintelligent to even plan long term. [23:54] DaemonFC That's my explanation for mjg59_ saying he's afraid of "COVID" and won't get married. [23:55] DaemonFC In reality, it's selfish and childlike behavior. [23:55] TR News Misleading: not many projects are affected by this as they don't collect and process random compressed files from hostile sources https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252525272/15-year-old-Python-vulnerability-poses-supply-chain-threat [23:55] TR Bot 15-year-old Python vulnerability poses supply chain threat [23:55] DaemonFC If you make any commitments that are difficult to call off, then you may not get to do whatever the hell you want to later and throw away the person you're with now. [23:55] techuser why get married though? [23:56] techuser many people say love [23:56] TR News SBOM BS, or LF worming its way into the media https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252525284/IT-pros-pan-government-software-supply-chain-security-advice [23:56] TR Bot IT pros pan government software supply chain security advice [23:56] techuser but love is not stable [23:56] techuser people eventually regret it, sometimes decades later [23:56] DaemonFC Some of schestowitz[TR]'s detractors. Maybe not mjg59_, but some of them, were saying he was in a green card marriage. [23:56] DaemonFC They'll pick up and weaponize anything they can. It's pathetic. [23:56] DaemonFC Same motivations as mjg59_ [23:57] TR News Clown = outsourcing = VERY bad for you https://www.techtarget.com/searchstorage/tip/NAS-vs-cloud-storage-Which-is-better-for-your-business [23:57] TR Bot NAS vs. cloud storage: Which is better for your business? [23:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:57] schestowitz[TR] They'll pick up and weaponize anything they can. It's pathetic. [23:57] techuser sometimes love is fake from the beginning and someone wants to parasite on another person [23:57] schestowitz[TR] yes, I discussed the likes of him with a friend today [23:58] schestowitz[TR] for about an hour... seems like a common technique [23:58] schestowitz[TR] they only make more enemies [23:58] schestowitz[TR] not just for them [23:58] schestowitz[TR] but for groups they claim to value [23:58] techuser like to make a man work a lot more so he can feed a woman and children [23:58] schestowitz[TR] inc. women [23:58] schestowitz[TR] they just make themselves more vulnerable for personal gain [23:58] techuser and then the woman runs away and takes some of the property also [23:58] schestowitz[TR] career-climbing opportunists [23:59] DaemonFC It says rather a lot about someone that's too much of a greedy chickenshit to actually go sign a marriage contract that they'd have the gall to criticize anyone's marriage. [23:59] DaemonFC Especially one that openly admits to cheating on their "partner" and probably "forced the arrangment" of a mutal understanding on them in the first place. [23:59] techuser my brother encountered a parasitic woman, though there was no marriage. She "loved" him till he had money to spend on her. [23:59] techuser then she ran away