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kingoffranceyeah, i think he just panickedMar 25 00:00
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schestowitz__[23:07] <MinceR> https://ircz.de/p/19111350Mar 25 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 25 00:18
schestowitz__so weirdMar 25 00:18
schestowitz__who did this?! wHO? Tell me!!Mar 25 00:18
tedbox>> Can I interpret a no-reply (for 4 days now) as, "yes, as far as we knowMar 25 00:35
tedbox>> only Roy was targeted by this"?Mar 25 00:36
tedbox>>Mar 25 00:36
tedbox> Yes.Mar 25 00:36
tedbox> Mar 25 00:36
tedbox> -johnMar 25 00:36
tedbox> Mar 25 00:36
tedbox> -- John SullivanMar 25 00:36
tedboxwowMar 25 00:36
DaemonFC[m]Burger King is taking advantage of President One Man Mass Gathering's Coronavirus disaster to slash employee pay by 10%. https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-burger-king-biggest-franchisee-carrols-cuts-pay-2020-3Mar 25 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Coronavirus: Burger King's biggest franchisee, Carrols, cuts pay - Business InsiderMar 25 01:02
*tedbox used to work thereMar 25 01:09
tedbox(aged 16-18 ish)Mar 25 01:09
*tedbox is now known as roy_on_tedboxMar 25 01:10
roy_on_tedboxDaemonFC[m]: these are the people doing all the actual workMar 25 01:14
roy_on_tedboxI used to clean tables even, sometimes under themMar 25 01:14
roy_on_tedboxtoilets etc.Mar 25 01:14
roy_on_tedboxthe people who run these companies don't do much but shake handsMar 25 01:15
roy_on_tedboxoh waitMar 25 01:15
roy_on_tedboxthey don't even do THAT anymoreMar 25 01:15
roy_on_tedboxso they decided that as price goes UP people are paid TOO muchMar 25 01:15
roy_on_tedboxand so the salary will go downMar 25 01:15
roy_on_tedboxsome of them feed several kidsMar 25 01:15
roy_on_tedboxI used to work there after schoolMar 25 01:16
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__: People are buying a lot of condoms.Mar 25 02:39
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DaemonFC[m]The news in the US isn't reporting on it, but condom shelves everywhere.....they're not completely empty, but they are being picked over.Mar 25 02:40
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roy_on_tedboxDaemonFC[m]: why condoms?Mar 25 02:48
roy_on_tedboxwhere's the logic?Mar 25 02:48
roy_on_tedboxMaybe peopleMar 25 02:48
roy_on_tedbox1) looking for casual sexMar 25 02:48
roy_on_tedbox2) trying not to get pregnant Mar 25 02:48
roy_on_tedbox3) worried it  would run outMar 25 02:48
roy_on_tedboxuse them as gloves!! ;-oMar 25 02:49
DaemonFC[m]People have to stay at home. They don't want to risk having kids right now.Mar 25 02:49
DaemonFC[m]Condoms make sense as a thing to grab a few boxes of.Mar 25 02:49
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DaemonFC[m]People are afraid and embarrassed about casual sex. I'm not entirely sure why.Mar 25 02:49
roy_on_tedboxother than abstinence there are other meansMar 25 02:49
roy_on_tedboxusually, the way I see it, it's about STDsMar 25 02:49
roy_on_tedboxunless -- to put it crudely (sorry, take the kids who read this away!) -- they want to "finish inside"Mar 25 02:50
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roy_on_tedboxcondoms are not important like foodMar 25 02:50
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, that's why I went on prep for a while when things weren't good with John and got on grindr again.Mar 25 02:50
roy_on_tedboxand clinics for abortions etc. aren't a covid19 riskMar 25 02:50
roy_on_tedboxit 's not like they have beds there with patients on ventilatorsMar 25 02:51
DaemonFC[m]Ohio ordered abortions to stop.Mar 25 02:51
roy_on_tedboxeven Ireland stopped the banMar 25 02:51
roy_on_tedboxThe US goes back in timeMar 25 02:51
DaemonFC[m]The clinics are staying open anyway and say we're essential and the courts are closed so you've made your decision and nobody is there to enforce it.Mar 25 02:51
roy_on_tedboxguns, babies and MAGAMar 25 02:51
roy_on_tedboxESR just posted another pro-gun BSMar 25 02:51
DaemonFC[m]In my opinion, having a baby would be a bigger disaster for me than getting HIV.Mar 25 02:52
DaemonFC[m]If we're talking hypotheticals.Mar 25 02:52
DaemonFC[m]There's way more assistance to people with HIV than people who have kids.Mar 25 02:52
roy_on_tedboxhaMar 25 02:54
roy_on_tedboxthat says a lot about societyMar 25 02:54
roy_on_tedboxdid you hear the conspiracy theories about gayness being promoted to curb overpopulation?Mar 25 02:54
roy_on_tedboxThis never made  sense to meMar 25 02:54
roy_on_tedboxThe super-rich want many workersMar 25 02:55
roy_on_tedboxand many people competing for jobsMar 25 02:55
roy_on_tedboxas that means lower salariesMar 25 02:55
roy_on_tedboxalso, more people = more salesMar 25 02:55
roy_on_tedboxone in blue, one in pinkMar 25 02:55
roy_on_tedboxgod forbid the boy and the girl will SHARE something rather than buy another!Mar 25 02:55
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Ariadneguns are great, ESR is not greatMar 25 04:36
roy_on_tedboxhave you seen his new post?Mar 25 04:42
*roy_on_tedbox did not even read itMar 25 04:43
Ariadnewhich oneMar 25 04:44
Ariadnethere are twoMar 25 04:44
Ariadneone is a mostly reasonable list of suggestions for those looking to purchase a firearm for home defenseMar 25 04:44
roy_on_tedbox3 hours ago he published somethingMar 25 04:44
Ariadnethe other is one suggesting that people not panic buy guns because COVID-19Mar 25 04:44
roy_on_tedboxI wonder if Katrina 3.0 is imminent, in some states...Mar 25 04:45
AriadnewellMar 25 04:45
roy_on_tedboxthe country is dividedMar 25 04:46
AriadneWyoming is basically out of food in the storesMar 25 04:46
roy_on_tedboxsolidarity is less strong than 17 years agoMar 25 04:46
Ariadnei came back to Oklahoma and got caught up in this bullshit lockdownMar 25 04:46
roy_on_tedboxwowMar 25 04:46
roy_on_tedboxhere it is not enforced yetMar 25 04:46
Ariadneand, the whole reason for coming back was to get my birth certificateMar 25 04:46
roy_on_tedboxyou can go out, but it's discouragedMar 25 04:46
Ariadnewhich i couldn't even doMar 25 04:46
roy_on_tedboxthey'll say you were born in Kanya regardless :-)Mar 25 04:47
Ariadne> The only safety lock that reliably protects your child is the one you install in your child’s head by teaching him or her that a gun is a dangerous tool that should only be used with adult supervision. Explain the danger. Do not make your weapons taboo forbidden fruit or surround them with mystery; if your child is curious, take him or her to the range with you.Mar 25 04:47
Ariadnei actually agree with ESR on thisMar 25 04:47
Ariadneroy_on_tedbox: in general, i am more concerned about COVID-19 being used as cover for installation of more tyrannyMar 25 04:48
Ariadnewe will get through the pandemic, mostly unscathedMar 25 04:49
roy_on_tedboxyou and me, yesMar 25 04:49
roy_on_tedboxbut...Mar 25 04:49
roy_on_tedboxthe older people are rightly worriedMar 25 04:49
roy_on_tedboxthey're in a risk group with this thing that has high fatality ratesMar 25 04:49
Ariadnei meant in the 10,000' birds eye viewMar 25 04:49
roy_on_tedboxand potential to overwhelm hospitals in less than a weekMar 25 04:50
Ariadneobviously, there is going to be fatalitiesMar 25 04:50
roy_on_tedboxyes, it is used for tyrannical measures, for sureMar 25 04:50
Ariadneit is a particularly aggressive strain of coronavirusMar 25 04:50
roy_on_tedboxbut... that it was hysteria for this purpose? Does not follow...Mar 25 04:50
Ariadneone interesting side effect though is that the vaccines being developed against COVID-19 work against coronaviruses in generalMar 25 04:51
Ariadneand many seasonal "colds" are caused by coronavirusesMar 25 04:51
Ariadneso we're going to wind up knocking out some % of common coldMar 25 04:51
roy_on_tedboxthen the nukes will get us ;-)Mar 25 04:52
Ariadneroy_on_tedbox: hysteria by design?  no.  capitalization of the hysteria?  absolutelyMar 25 04:52
roy_on_tedboxyeahMar 25 04:52
Ariadnenetanyahu has turned isreal into a defacto dictatorshipMar 25 04:52
roy_on_tedboxthat does not mean the policy of lockdown is wrongMar 25 04:52
AriadnemmmMar 25 04:52
Ariadnei don't knowMar 25 04:52
roy_on_tedboxAriadne: he did that a decade agoMar 25 04:52
Ariadneroy_on_tedbox: he did, but he has enhanced it in the name of COVID-19Mar 25 04:53
AriadneBoJo wants to do the sameMar 25 04:53
roy_on_tedboxthe main difference is, the Crime Minister delays the prison sentenceMar 25 04:53
AriadneEARN IT, anti-trans bills, etcMar 25 04:53
Ariadnewhile all eyes are on the COVID-19 ball, some truly nasty stuff is being doneMar 25 04:54
roy_on_tedboxsocialism for the rich...Mar 25 04:54
Ariadnethe problem with lockdown is that it disproportionately affects the poor and middle-class people who are running small businessesMar 25 04:55
roy_on_tedboxbailouts for nuclear power etc.Mar 25 04:55
roy_on_tedboxyeah, well... now I'm proven right to have chosen no kidsMar 25 04:55
roy_on_tedboxand people even start saying things like thatMar 25 04:55
Ariadnea small business in NYC or Boston that is forced to close is looking at $10-20k/month rent for their storeMar 25 04:55
roy_on_tedboxmaybe the next "boomers" will be after WW2Mar 25 04:55
Ariadneif they are shut down and not able to make moneyMar 25 04:56
roy_on_tedboxor WW3, whicheverMar 25 04:56
Ariadneit's great that evictions are halted, but that's for nowMar 25 04:56
roy_on_tedboxAriadne: the USSA will continues to provide Microsoft, Amazon AppleMar 25 04:56
Ariadnein August or September when all of this is done, that business is going to have to cough up $40-50k rent they won't haveMar 25 04:56
roy_on_tedboxand you can express anger using Facebook "likes"Mar 25 04:56
Ariadneand thus they shut foreverMar 25 04:56
Ariadneso if there is lockdownMar 25 04:56
Ariadnethere needs to be a halt in bills tooMar 25 04:57
roy_on_tedboxThe state will continue to provide "basic goods" with the Bezos head imprinted on each loafMar 25 04:57
Ariadnefor individuals and small businessesMar 25 04:57
roy_on_tedboxthey need to reset the economyMar 25 04:57
roy_on_tedboxbut they won'tMar 25 04:57
roy_on_tedboxthe super-rich never give away their wealthMar 25 04:57
roy_on_tedboxit needs to be taken from themMar 25 04:57
roy_on_tedboxthey do scams and PR ploys to pretend they're the "common goodMar 25 04:57
roy_on_tedboxanyway, reset the economyMar 25 04:58
Ariadnei mean, you get what i'm saying thoMar 25 04:58
roy_on_tedboxit has become too riggedMar 25 04:58
Ariadnethat mom and pop biz on the cornerMar 25 04:58
Ariadneis toastMar 25 04:58
roy_on_tedboxand the middle class now loses savings through inflation and devaluation of the currencyMar 25 04:58
Ariadnethe people who own itMar 25 04:58
Ariadneare toastMar 25 04:58
Ariadnethis is going to wipe out the middle classMar 25 04:58
roy_on_tedboxit will fail, even if they kick the can another 2 years down the pavementMar 25 04:58
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roy_on_tedboxAriadne: not a new problemMar 25 04:59
Ariadneit's not, but the shutdown is going to exacerbate itMar 25 04:59
roy_on_tedboxmy salary has remained the same for about a decadeMar 25 04:59
roy_on_tedboxdespite inflationMar 25 04:59
Ariadneit's funnyMar 25 04:59
roy_on_tedboxthey don't want more people at the top, they just want loads of obedient workersMar 25 05:00
Ariadnepoliticians are always likeMar 25 05:00
Ariadne"we support small business"Mar 25 05:00
roy_on_tedboxhaMar 25 05:00
roy_on_tedboxTeam UPC says thatMar 25 05:00
Ariadnebut small businessesMar 25 05:00
roy_on_tedboxSMEs are "the children"Mar 25 05:00
Ariadneare not going to survive thisMar 25 05:00
Ariadneif they have to shut downMar 25 05:00
Ariadneto which they sayMar 25 05:00
roy_on_tedboxtrueMar 25 05:00
Ariadne"get business continuity insurance"Mar 25 05:00
Ariadnewhich is hilariousMar 25 05:00
roy_on_tedboxbut people don't reject the monopolies, not enough anywayMar 25 05:00
Ariadnebecause the insurance companyMar 25 05:00
Ariadneis going to just say "act of god, sorry"Mar 25 05:01
roy_on_tedboxor go bustMar 25 05:01
roy_on_tedboxand then say, really sorry, can't payMar 25 05:01
roy_on_tedboxinsurance is all fine and wellMar 25 05:03
roy_on_tedboxwhen times are goodMar 25 05:03
roy_on_tedboxbut insurance is for when times are badMar 25 05:03
roy_on_tedboxand then, if insurance seems to be -ahem - insurance, then what's the point of it?Mar 25 05:03
roy_on_tedboxLike getting assurances and guarantees from companies that cease to exist before coverage terms expire/reach endMar 25 05:04
roy_on_tedboxhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/17538579Mar 25 05:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How many airports will consider converting into shopping malls in years to come? They already have lots of parking spaces. Runaways as highways?Mar 25 05:05
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scientesthe russian word for eyes comes from greekMar 25 05:11
scientessame as in the illiad, owl-eyed atheneMar 25 05:12
oiaohmLot of airports cargo sections are still going strong.Mar 25 05:30
scientesoiaohm, have they gutted the interiors of the passenger planes yet?Mar 25 05:31
scientesso that they can continue to flyMar 25 05:31
oiaohmNot yet you are talking a hell of a lot of work.Mar 25 05:37
scientesbut the economy plane seats are really simpleMar 25 05:38
scientesthey can probably just be removed and replaced simplyMar 25 05:38
scientesnot the ones with the entertainment for long-haul, those are more difficultMar 25 05:38
scientesthe problem is that freight demands are downMar 25 05:39
scientesall accross the boardMar 25 05:39
scientesand there are a bunch of big contiainer ships that are sitting idleMar 25 05:39
scientesand planes burn shit-loads of dielselMar 25 05:40
oiaohmscientes: no the conversion is a lot more work than you are thinking.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JeDrrOL5gkMar 25 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Boeing 747-400 Passengers to Cargo Conversion - YouTubeMar 25 05:42
oiaohmBig thing is making the big door that you can get the cargo in and out of the main area of the aircraft quickly.Mar 25 05:42
oiaohmscientes: Lot of cargo aircraft are made from retired passenger aircraft.Mar 25 05:43
oiaohmThe process is not just as simple as remove the seats.   Its remove the seats, seal up the old door for humans and cut a new door for cargo.Mar 25 05:44
oiaohmold door/old doorsMar 25 05:44
oiaohmWonder if we well see after this mess airlines asking aircraft makers to make aircraft that are truly half way between cargo and passenger.  It should be possible to make a aircraft with passenger doors and cargo doors.  With the passenger seats on running frames for cargo.Mar 25 05:48
DaemonFC[m]When people just do something stupid in a comment on Facebook that adds nothing to the thread, I add them to my block list. Otherwise it's like the same 30-40 people who follow you around and try to pollute everything so that nobody can talk.Mar 25 05:57
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scientesoiaohm, why can't the humans just use a cargo door?Mar 25 07:35
scientesDaemonFC[m], but then you see one-sided conversationsMar 25 07:36
scienteswhere it looks like someone is talking to themselvesMar 25 07:36
MinceRyou block people who are talking to themselves :>Mar 25 07:44
MinceRthe easier way is to just delete your fecesbook accountMar 25 07:45
scientes^^^^Mar 25 07:47
scientesthat's meMar 25 07:47
oiaohmscientes: cargo door lacks the inflating ramps and the like for emergency exist of humans.   Cargo on fire you are meant to have insurance so you don't rescue it.Mar 25 08:06
scientesyou mean you are suppose to leave all baggage behind?Mar 25 08:07
scientesoiaohm, what if Tom Hanks could use that volley ball?Mar 25 08:07
oiaohmscientes: better be highly  valuable techically you exit aircraft in emergency with any major baggage lot of countries its 10000 dollar fine.  Mar 25 08:26
oiaohmIf you live.Mar 25 08:27
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MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S32y9aYEzzoMar 25 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to measure HOW MUCH PEE IS IN YOUR POOL - YouTubeMar 25 08:45
scientesMinceR, there is huge amount wrong with thatMar 25 09:18
scientese.g. aspartame is artificial sweatener, but fully digestsMar 25 09:18
scientesso i think they are only taking about sucraloseMar 25 09:18
scientesugggh i can't watch thatMar 25 09:20
scientescause it doesn't get to the dataMar 25 09:20
scientesits too "hold your hand"ishMar 25 09:20
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XRevan86scientes: Do you mean "oko" or "glaz"? Both descend from Proto-Slavic.Mar 25 09:52
scientesglazMar 25 09:52
scientesglaukopis is owl-eyed in the iliadMar 25 09:53
scienteslet me find the greek charactersMar 25 09:53
scientesi guess glau != glazMar 25 09:53
XRevan86Initially "glaz" meant a ball or a rock.Mar 25 09:53
scientesok, false cognateMar 25 09:53
XRevan86First it started being used for an eyeball, then just for an eye in general.Mar 25 09:54
scientesAthene being "glaukopis" or owl-eyed is repeated many times, as her epitat.Mar 25 09:54
scientesoh i'm stupidMar 25 09:55
scientesglau is the owl partMar 25 09:55
scientesbecause eye in greek is of course the same word as opticsMar 25 09:55
scientesso opisMar 25 09:56
XRevan86https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B3%CE%BB%CE%B1%CF%85%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82#Ancient_Greek ?Mar 25 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.m.wiktionary.org | γλαυκός - WiktionaryMar 25 09:56
scientesyeah thats itMar 25 09:58
scientes> noting that the root only appears in Greek (Homer, Aeschylus)Mar 25 09:58
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%83ek%CA%B7- "opsis"Mar 25 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h₃ekʷ- - WiktionaryMar 25 10:00
scienteswoah, these are coo;Mar 25 10:01
scientesPrimitive Irish: ᚔᚅᚓᚊᚐᚌᚂᚐᚄ (ineqaglas)Mar 25 10:02
scienteswell its also translated grey-eyedMar 25 10:03
scientesi guess the owl one was just a embellishmentMar 25 10:03
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scientesmy godMar 25 10:07
scienteshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1785344/Mar 25 10:07
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scientesimagine spending years studying nothing but eye colorMar 25 10:07
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bimbam.jpgMar 25 10:10
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scientes(cat)Mar 25 10:11
scientesahh i'm all confusedMar 25 10:33
scientesi was reading a shitty translation of the odyssey that uses all the roman names instead of the greek namesMar 25 10:33
scientesand i didn't realize that athene and minerva are the same damn goddessMar 25 10:33
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scienteswhy the hell would someone translate Odysses but replace the greek names with the roman names?Mar 25 12:42
scienteswhat bizarroworld do we live in?Mar 25 12:42
scientesnot only why the hell would you translate a nameMar 25 12:42
scientesbut they are not even the same names, like pierre and peterMar 25 12:42
scientesthey are totally differentMar 25 12:43
scienteslike aphrodite and venusMar 25 12:43
scientesits already super confusing with three gods of the seaMar 25 12:43
scientespeleus, thetis and poseidonMar 25 12:43
scientesexcept that peleus is mortalMar 25 12:43
scientesand then when you decide to translate poseidon to neptuneMar 25 12:44
scientesoh geeze..............Mar 25 12:44
scientesmonotheism is so much simplerMar 25 12:44
libertyboxbuckwheat nation Here's what Russians are #panicbuying as #coronavirus spreads https://meduza.io/en/short/2020/03/24/the-buckwheat-nationMar 25 12:44
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scienteswhy buckwheat?Mar 25 12:45
scientesand what idiot panic buys toilet paper?Mar 25 12:45
scientesI mean, are you not more inventive in how you will whipe your ass?Mar 25 12:45
*scientes is with the people panic hoarding boozeMar 25 12:45
XRevan86scientes: Are you surprised that the Western Europe is very Roman-centric?Mar 25 12:47
scientesbut in translating from Greek?Mar 25 12:48
scientesthis is insanityMar 25 12:48
XRevan86scientes: Probably used the more "familiar" names for the same gods :)Mar 25 12:48
XRevan86There's practically god-parity between the two pantheonsMar 25 12:48
scientes> But Telemachus as he lay covered with a woollen fleece kept thinking all night through of his intended voyage of the counsel that Minerva had given him. Mar 25 12:49
scienteshttp://classics.mit.edu/Homer/odyssey.1.i.htmlMar 25 12:49
scientesexcept that its Athene....Mar 25 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-classics.mit.edu | The Internet Classics Archive | The Odyssey by HomerMar 25 12:49
psydreadThis is the first time I've heard of such a bizarre thing being done in a translated workMar 25 12:49
scientes> Mar 25 12:50
scientesἔνθ᾽ ὅ γε παννύχιος, κεκαλυμμένος οἰὸς ἀώτῳ,Mar 25 12:50
scientesβούλευε φρεσὶν ᾗσιν ὁδὸν τὴν πέφραδ᾽ Ἀθήνη.Mar 25 12:50
scientesἈθήνη. == Athene, NOT MinervaMar 25 12:50
XRevan86scientes: You don't need to show proof, it's obvious that the original in Greek would have Greek godsMar 25 12:51
psydreadAnd this makes me realise how rusty my Greek has become and how much it is in need of a review (or 10)Mar 25 12:51
scienteswell it gets the point accross that they put in something that totally isn't thereMar 25 12:51
XRevan86scientes: There's one plausible explanation: the translation is from Latin.Mar 25 12:52
XRevan86double conversionMar 25 12:52
scientespsydread, I didn't really read that, it is just the last two lines of book 1Mar 25 12:52
scientesWhy buckwheat?Mar 25 12:56
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oiaohmhttps://edition.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/08/07/contrails.climate/index.html  << I really wish I knew were to find global temp data to compare before and after shutdown caused by this virus.Mar 25 15:21
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oiaohmAfter 9/11 it was kind of scary.Mar 25 15:21
oiaohmYes as horrible as it sounds if the 9/11 effect does not level out we could have a second round of deaths not use to illness but due to heat stroke.,Mar 25 15:22
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DaemonFC[m]The banks are making it hard to even get your grocery money. Mar 25 16:00
DaemonFC[m]Suddenly nobody's ATM wants to work and PNC cut your card limit in half.Mar 25 16:01
roy_on_tedboxwe withdrew a lot of moneyMar 25 16:01
roy_on_tedboxis it still at all possible to deposit checks?Mar 25 16:01
DaemonFC[m]Probably.Mar 25 16:01
roy_on_tedboxok...Mar 25 16:02
roy_on_tedboxwell, we can still withdraw money, max sums at a timeMar 25 16:02
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oiaohmroy_on_tedbox: there are only so many bank notes.Mar 25 16:19
oiaohmChina prevented this problem by mandating everything bought by card.Mar 25 16:19
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oiaohmNow some countries may have to make that hard choice.Mar 25 16:19
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DaemonFC[m]> well, we can still withdraw money, max sums at a timeMar 25 16:48
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz__ Your money is backed by the full faith and credit of the government!Mar 25 16:48
DaemonFC[m]Which is led by a guy who has been sued 3600 times by all sorts of people for screwing them and walking away.Mar 25 16:49
DaemonFC[m]Really makes you sleep great knowing your money is with a bank that could collapse because Mitch McConnell insists on a bailout bill for the Republican Party donors.Mar 25 16:49
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DaemonFC[m]One with no conditions too!Mar 25 16:51
DaemonFC[m]So they could just fail and give it all to the CEO or use it to buy other companies and it turns out they weren't actually in trouble.Mar 25 16:51
DaemonFC[m]Like PNC with TARP money in 2008.Mar 25 16:51
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scienteshttps://meduza.io/en/news/2015/01/30/woman-in-nizhny-novgorod-buys-320-kilos-of-buckwheat-asks-government-to-pay-for-storageMar 25 17:58
scienteswhat is with Russians and buckwheatMar 25 17:58
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*XRevan86 looks at buckwheatMar 25 17:59
scienteswhen i bought lentils I had to eat one to make sure it wasn't buckwheatMar 25 17:59
scientesbecause my georgian is not too greatMar 25 17:59
scientesalthough I did read "fasol" in georgianMar 25 17:59
scientesits what russians hoarde for some reason inMar 25 17:59
scienteshttps://meduza.io/en/short/2020/03/24/the-buckwheat-nationMar 25 17:59
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XRevan86scientes: I know, I knowMar 25 17:59
XRevan86scientes: I don't know what to tell ya %)Mar 25 18:00
scientesare they planning on eating lots of buckwheat pancakes?Mar 25 18:00
XRevan86It's good fried and as a cerealMar 25 18:00
scientescause those are not very good without lots of butterMar 25 18:01
scientes"Buckwheat groats are commonly used in western Asia and eastern Europe. "Mar 25 18:01
XRevan86scientes: I wasn't aware those exist.Mar 25 18:01
scientesI think that is the only way I've eaten buckwheatMar 25 18:01
scientes"Historically, the Russian Empire was the world leader in buckwheat production.[40] Growing areas in the Russian Empire were estimated at 6.5 million acres (2,600,000 ha), followed by those of France at 0.9 million acres (360,000 ha).[41] In 1970, the Soviet Union grew an estimated 4.5 million acres (1,800,000 ha) of buckwheat. As of 2016, it remains a key cereal.[42][39]"Mar 25 18:02
XRevan86https://takprosto.cc/wp-content/uploads/5/5-blyud-iz-grechki/2.jpg they look meaty. Evil.Mar 25 18:02
scientes"In 2017, world production was 3.8 million tonnes, led by Russia with 40% of the world total, followed by China with 38% and Ukraine with 5%.[39]"Mar 25 18:02
scientesU.S. use to produce buckwheat, which explains the pancakesMar 25 18:02
XRevan86scientes: https://st03.kakprosto.ru/tumb/680/images/article/2014/7/26/148080_53d349607905a53d3496079091.jpegMar 25 18:03
scientes"Buckwheat groats are commonly used in western Asia and eastern Europe. The porridge was common, and is often considered the definitive peasant dish."Mar 25 18:03
scientesahh there it isMar 25 18:03
XRevan86This is how one does it.Mar 25 18:03
scientesXRevan86, it is partially the "I only have a cast iron pan and have to cook everything with it"Mar 25 18:04
XRevan86butter, onions, chickenMar 25 18:04
XRevan86scientes: This reminds me of what I heard about pizza :)Mar 25 18:05
scientesbut that makes no senseMar 25 18:06
scientesbecause pizza requires super fancy ingredientsMar 25 18:06
XRevan86scientes: It's dough + misc.Mar 25 18:06
scientesmeh.....Mar 25 18:06
scientesI've found the best sour kraut around hereMar 25 18:07
scientesits like when i made my own kefir: it was like 3X as strong with lactic acidMar 25 18:10
scientesI like it that wayMar 25 18:10
scientesor maybe 2XMar 25 18:10
XRevan86scientes: How are pancakes with it?Mar 25 18:10
scientesI don't know, I haven't made pancakes hereMar 25 18:11
scienteswhen i first moved in I made borscht and breadMar 25 18:11
scientesbut I haven't wanted to cook since thenMar 25 18:11
scientesexcept I bake a fish occasionallyMar 25 18:11
scientesoh wow the currency keeps slippingMar 25 18:13
XRevan86Okay, I've got enough motivation to go eat.Mar 25 18:13
scientes1 usd to 3.5 gel nowMar 25 18:13
scientesXRevan86, I don't think eating requries motivation....Mar 25 18:13
XRevan86scientes: I've been stallingMar 25 18:18
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scienteshttps://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/Mar 25 18:24
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scientesone of them: > In 2009 he called for an inquiry into alleged conflicts of interest surrounding the EU response to the Swine Flu pandemic.Mar 25 18:24
DaemonFC[m]I call old men I don't like buckwheat.Mar 25 18:25
DaemonFC[m]It's an insult.Mar 25 18:25
scientesDaemonFC[m], it is foodMar 25 18:26
scientesactually quite nutritiousMar 25 18:26
kingoffranceold ppl will think it is a "little rascals" referenceMar 25 18:26
scientesbetter than the maize and wheat that replaced itMar 25 18:26
scientesDaemonFC[m], better than GritsMar 25 18:27
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I know, and it's damned hardy too.Mar 25 18:27
DaemonFC[m]Even on a bad production year, most of it will survive.Mar 25 18:27
scientes"Mar 25 18:28
scientes…there is a very good example that we all forget: the swine flu in 2009. That was a virus that reached the world from Mexico and until today there is no vaccination against it. But what? At that time there was no Facebook or there maybe was but it was still in its infancy. The coronavirus, in contrast, is a virus with public relations."Mar 25 18:28
scientesdamn straightMar 25 18:28
scientes> But remember the joke about tigers. “Why do you blow the horn?” “To keep the tigers away.” “But there are no tigers here.” “There you see!”Mar 25 18:30
scienteshahahahahahahahMar 25 18:30
scientesXRevan86, what is a good travel food? I always use peanut butter, but I can't find that here.Mar 25 18:34
scientespeanut butter is perfect: high food density, low water, no cooking needed, can be eaten directly, not messy, high proteinMar 25 18:34
scienteswhat I think would work would be sesame seed pasteMar 25 18:35
scientesbut I don't know where to get that in non-halva (too sweet) formMar 25 18:35
scientesThis whole coronavirus thing makes me want to put every member of the media through the guillotineMar 25 18:41
scientesActually. that is kinda the pointMar 25 18:46
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DaemonFC[m]"…there is a very good example that we all forget: the swine flu in 2009. That was a virus that reached the world from Mexico and until today there is no vaccination against it. "Mar 25 19:34
DaemonFC[m]There was a vaccine in 2009 and I took it.Mar 25 19:34
DaemonFC[m]Still had my CNA license so I told them I was a healthcare worker and got one.Mar 25 19:35
DaemonFC[m]Even without a vaccine for Pandemic Flu, there was no way it was ever going to be as bad as COVID-19.Mar 25 19:35
DaemonFC[m]People had been exposed to other flu viruses and the seasonal flu shot probably also did something. With COVID-19 nobody has ever had anything like it and it's spreading like wildfire because that makes everyone 0% immune to it.Mar 25 19:36
DaemonFC[m]We already knew how to make flu shots. The only delay was that they weren't making them for that specific flu right off the bat. They still don't know how to make a Coronavirus vaccine, so it's square 1, and when they do it will still take months to manufacture in bulk.Mar 25 19:37
DaemonFC[m]So let's say someone does figure out Coronavirus vaccine 3 months from now. The government says we're waiving all of the red tape, go! They have to manufacture them and the world will all be bidding for the shots as they're being made.Mar 25 19:39
DaemonFC[m]Well, in 3 months the virus will have done most of the damage before the first shot could even go out, a few months after that.Mar 25 19:39
DaemonFC[m]COVID-19 is "Hasta Lasagna, Don't get any on ya!" and it's not going to change. They're talking theoretical vaccines when Trump had us caught with our pants down and we can't get gloves and masks.Mar 25 19:41
MinceRsuddenly they believe in vaccines?Mar 25 19:41
MinceReven Twitler?Mar 25 19:41
DaemonFC[m]Oh, uh, heh.Mar 25 19:42
DaemonFC[m]There was a Coronavirus Party in Kentucky MinceR Mar 25 19:42
DaemonFC[m]They were coughing on each other trying to get it.Mar 25 19:42
scientesDaemonFC[m], there we goMar 25 19:42
MinceRpolitical kind or fun kind?Mar 25 19:42
MinceRi guess neitherMar 25 19:43
scientesi want to go to one of thoseMar 25 19:43
scientesMinceR, like a chicken pox partyMar 25 19:43
DaemonFC[m]My mom has it.Mar 25 19:47
psydreadlolMar 25 19:47
kingoffrancei said it in another channel, suddenly they believe in medieval alchemy (who basically theorized what a nowadays vaccine is) :)Mar 25 19:47
DaemonFC[m]They won't test her and they're turning people away from the hospitals in Indiana, curiously, even though there's "400 cases" in a state of 6.4 million people.Mar 25 19:47
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DaemonFC[m]And she's taking colloidal silver.Mar 25 19:48
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DaemonFC[m]With every disaster, the government uses spreadsheets to make it look less bad. They undercount the victims and then praise themselves for doing a great job. It's just as true in America in 2020 as it was in the Soviet Union in 1986.Mar 25 19:49
MinceRshe wants to be blue?Mar 25 19:49
CrystalMathhere's a song about a REAL virus, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVuMO5vQ5HEMar 25 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RISEN FROM THE RANK - AIDS (ORIGINAL 12'' VERSION) (℗1985) - YouTubeMar 25 19:52
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC7HwPh6EsMar 25 19:52
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC7HwPh6EsMar 25 19:52
MinceRlolMar 25 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Team America-EVERYONE HAS AIDS! - YouTubeMar 25 19:52
scientesMinceR, hahahahaha~!Mar 25 19:52
scientesI actually liked RENTMar 25 19:53
scientesbut that parody of it is validMar 25 19:53
MinceRalso, here's a song about taking colloidal silver >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA52uNzx7Y4Mar 25 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eiffel 65 - Blue (Da Ba Dee) - YouTubeMar 25 19:59
DaemonFC[m]> she wants to be blue?Mar 25 19:59
DaemonFC[m]I told her how dumb it is and all I got was a lousy rant.Mar 25 19:59
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKNxeF4KMsYMar 25 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Coldplay - Yellow - YouTubeMar 25 19:59
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1c7GkzRQQMar 25 20:00
scientes^RedMar 25 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Police - Roxanne - YouTubeMar 25 20:00
MinceR:)Mar 25 20:00
scienteshow many other colors?Mar 25 20:00
MinceRPurple Motion did a lot of stuffMar 25 20:00
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Have you heard of Occam's Razor? The simplest answer is often the correct one. You're telling me to believe that there's an FDA conspiracy to suppress colloidal silver, which requires me to believe that they're willing to let 12 million people die to maintain it, and keep the economy shut down for half a year at a loss of $8 trillion dollars worth of output when the simple answer is that the shit doesn't do Mar 25 20:00
DaemonFC[m]damned thing.Mar 25 20:00
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJunCsrhJjgMar 25 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Purple Haze (Live at the Atlanta Pop Festival) - YouTubeMar 25 20:01
kingoffranceIMO there is a simple explanation: people selling colloidal silver see an opportune moment to unloadMar 25 20:01
kingoffrances/people/people who were already/Mar 25 20:01
scientesI should start selling collodial fools goldMar 25 20:04
DaemonFC[m]I mean this is so bad the doctors don't even want my money.Mar 25 20:14
DaemonFC[m]They're all emailing me saying "We called in 6 months of your prescriptions and please don't try to come in.".Mar 25 20:14
DaemonFC[m]Jesus Christ. I mean, that was at least three more stimulus checks worth of "Don't call us. We'll call you.".Mar 25 20:14
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DaemonFC[m]It's not hard to tell what's coming. Mar 25 20:55
DaemonFC[m]We're not far behind Italy in total infections right now. Maybe another day. And the more test kits states get, the more they find COVID-19 everywhere, so it may actually already be much worse.Mar 25 20:55
DaemonFC[m]Italy has 7,503 deaths attributed to COVID-19 right now, so it's probably safe to say that a minimum of that number is baked in for the US even if this did actually go away like a miracle tomorrow. Which it won't.Mar 25 20:55
DaemonFC[m]Most people with a degree that's not from Trump University figure that we won't see cases peak for two months or so.Mar 25 20:58
MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/03/ef0fe9cd826aeab9.mp4Mar 25 21:35
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MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/02/71855fca52a12155.jpgMar 25 21:58
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*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zIPzTkNVESwSjSnfaASfqIDJ >Mar 25 22:25
MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/03/e677014b63e2642c.mp4Mar 25 22:30
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/KLquySSdCsbIJAzwzUHjkxoC >Mar 25 22:32
MinceRpeople are ignoring social distancing here as wellMar 25 22:35
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/RQniyliqCbzbvjGqkKIqRxXd >Mar 25 22:46
DaemonFC[m]He says, "What do you know about the French?".Mar 25 22:46
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Their tanks have back up lights.".Mar 25 22:47
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