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schestowitzMidnight. +36,642 cases of #covid19 in the US.Jun 25 00:01
MinceRperl 7 is not rakuJun 25 00:04
schestowitzoh, I see...Jun 25 00:05
schestowitzI was hesitant about this...Jun 25 00:05
schestowitzlet me retitle thatJun 25 00:06
schestowitzdoneJun 25 00:06
MinceR:)Jun 25 00:06
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schestowitz#mozilla : we pushed out our CEO, Mr. JavaScript , we brought in #microsoft managers insteadJun 25 00:40
schestowitzNow we're a political entity. Hours ago: Jun 25 00:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | We’re proud to join #StopHateForProfit - The Mozilla BlogJun 25 00:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Immigrants Remain Core to the U.S.’ Strength - The Mozilla BlogJun 25 00:40
schestowitzdoes mozilla need to even 'reinvent' itself as a political party?Jun 25 00:40
schestowitzThey will only split their userbaseJun 25 00:40
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "#mozilla : we pushed out our CEO"> Well, your friend Mr. Homophobe is running Brave now.Jun 25 00:42
DaemonFC[m]He's basically the entire reason why Tor Browser could possibly leak your IP address.Jun 25 00:42
DaemonFC[m]So it's kind of bizarre that Brave has a Tor Mode.Jun 25 00:42
DaemonFC[m]Most attacks on a web browser only work if you have Javascript turned on because it's hell on wheels.Jun 25 00:43
insmodppaschestowitz: What userbase? ;)Jun 25 00:44
DaemonFC[m]All 4-5% who haven't fled to Google's PRISM browser.Jun 25 00:45
schestowitzinsmodppa: the way they're going, there will be none leftJun 25 00:45
schestowitz[00:43] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): At this stage, it would not shock me if #mozilla #firefox started coming up with "Mozilla endorses X for Prime Minister" pop-ups. They also have political #censorship ambitions. In BROWSER level. []Jun 25 00:46
schestowitz[00:44] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): And even if I mostly AGREE with the political stance of #mozilla CEO I do NOT want my browser to become a political tool, or a vehicle of politics. Keep it neutral, keep it technical. []Jun 25 00:46
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DaemonFC[m]Google software development practices are as bad as most proprietary software companies.Jun 25 00:49
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DaemonFC[m]We don't even know how many software licenses Chromium violates because Google stuffed it full of files with no license attached.Jun 25 00:50
DaemonFC[m]It seems that Google does a lot of stuff it shouldn't and considers potential lawsuits as a cost of business. Maybe your company does not.Jun 25 00:51
DaemonFC[m]Thanks to them, Android is a rat's nest that can't even be shipped as open source in the United States.Jun 25 00:52
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I moved off mozilla mostlyJun 25 00:52
schestowitzexcept thunderbirdJun 25 00:52
schestowitzI use qupzilla, konqueror and falkonJun 25 00:52
schestowitznever chrom* anythingJun 25 00:52
schestowitzand yes, I know there's blink thereJun 25 00:52
DaemonFC[m]Better export your mailbox. They don't really care if Thunderbird works or not.Jun 25 00:53
schestowitzbut no connections or sessions with google servers Jun 25 00:53
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I have backupsJun 25 00:53
schestowitznot nightly but weekly (ish)Jun 25 00:53
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I have some idea...Jun 25 00:53
schestowitzlet's see what you make of itJun 25 00:53
schestowitzI have dozens of pagesJun 25 00:53
schestowitzfrom the Seattle policeJun 25 00:53
schestowitzthey show how police works with GoogleJun 25 00:53
DaemonFC[m]There's also an ungoogled-chromium apparently.Jun 25 00:54
schestowitzin this case ratting out pedophilesJun 25 00:54
schestowitzbut...Jun 25 00:54
schestowitzreleasing it might be spun asJun 25 00:54
schestowitz1) protecting a pedoJun 25 00:54
schestowitz2) ruining the law enforcement processJun 25 00:54
schestowitz3) giving 'tips' to bad peopleJun 25 00:54
schestowitzso I am not sure whether to release it and, if so, in what formJun 25 00:54
schestowitzit would certainly make people think twice about gmailJun 25 00:54
DaemonFC[m]I'm not really sure why anyone would do anything involving Google that they wouldn't want the police knowing about.Jun 25 00:55
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: who says criminals are smart thinking how many get done in each year for posting their crimes on youtube.Jun 25 01:14
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DaemonFC[m]Or they'll kill someone on Facebook Live. Yeah, many are just plain dumb.Jun 25 01:19
DaemonFC[m]Like, if you were going to have CP, why would you put it on a Google Drive?Jun 25 01:19
DaemonFC[m]Don't people know that they have software that looks through images and videos and recognizes quite a bit of that?Jun 25 01:20
DaemonFC[m]Theoretically, Windows Defender could be reporting that to Microsoft too.Jun 25 01:20
DaemonFC[m]It sends a hashed value to them about every file it scans on someone's computer.Jun 25 01:20
DaemonFC[m]Now there's a Linux version!Jun 25 01:20
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DaemonFC[m]Bad idea to do anything where you'll definitely be caught, and all of the major tech companies are part of PRISM and almost always cooperate with law enforcement and have back doors into their products. Apple gives iCloud phone backups to the cops.Jun 25 01:22
DaemonFC[m]Then the cops complain that a phone that they don't even need anymore after that is encrypted.Jun 25 01:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla Politics, Mozilla WebThings Gateway and Voice Projects []Jun 25 01:23
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schestowitz[01:19] <DaemonFC[m]> Like, if you were going to have CP, why would you put it on a Google Drive?Jun 25 01:29
schestowitzhe did that, too...Jun 25 01:29
schestowitz[01:14] <oiaohm> DaemonFC[m]: who says criminals are smart thinking how many get done in each year for posting their crimes on youtube.Jun 25 01:29
DaemonFC[m]Well, obvious bad idea is obvious.Jun 25 01:29
schestowitzthe dumb criminals are caught fastJun 25 01:29
schestowitzthe more clever and informed one can become mass murderersJun 25 01:30
schestowitzbecause they're harder to catch, sometimes never get caughtJun 25 01:30
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, people who can't sit down for a minute and go "Okay, if I was the police, what would I do to catch me?".Jun 25 01:30
schestowitzthe police would rather boast about dumb ones, the "Easy cases"Jun 25 01:30
DaemonFC[m]"Oh I know. Ask Google for me files Herpa Derp Derp!"Jun 25 01:30
DaemonFC[m]*myJun 25 01:30
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, some guy I know in Waukegan is dating a convict on lifetime probation with ankle monitoring.Jun 25 01:31
DaemonFC[m]The cops used a fake account on Grindr and told the guy they were a 14 year old. He went to meet the "14 year old", and got a pair of handcuffs. Then they found CP on his phone.Jun 25 01:32
DaemonFC[m]They get people to agree to something that they know they shouldn't do, then when they have them they have probable cause to check the phone.Jun 25 01:34
DaemonFC[m]Then look what else they found.Jun 25 01:34
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Police trolling of gay people isn't new. There's just less things they can get you for now.Jun 25 01:36
DaemonFC[m]I remember reading one case from like the 1960s or something where a state that had a sodomy law made a deal with an 18 year old to go entrap some older man they knew was gay.Jun 25 01:37
DaemonFC[m]18 year old goes into the guy's shop and apparently didn't understand that his instructions were just to get the guy to agree to fuck him so he could testify to that in court.Jun 25 01:38
DaemonFC[m]So he actually lets the guy fuck him and the police arrest him after that. Jun 25 01:38
DaemonFC[m]At least he got to do what he was arrested for, I guess. Good for him. Jun 25 01:38
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: this one had CP of girls tooJun 25 01:44
schestowitzalbeit only half a dozenJun 25 01:44
schestowitzcompared to like 5000-6000 confirmed of malesJun 25 01:44
schestowitzbut I think he may have also done physical abuseJun 25 01:44
DaemonFC[m]I can't believe it took that long for people to realize what RMS was. He made creepy obsessive comments about sex with kids. Not even just a casual comment about teenagers or something, but like 12 year olds.Jun 25 01:44
schestowitzfuture installments may help confirmed (or refute)Jun 25 01:44
DaemonFC[m]Plus there's the obvious  Lady Gaga thing. He really likes her apparently.Jun 25 01:45
schestowitzwhat about her?Jun 25 01:45
DaemonFC[m]One of her best tracks says that she lives for the applause and "the way that your children scream for me". Jun 25 01:45
schestowitzI think RMS made his remark in response to some Dutch political partyJun 25 01:45
DaemonFC[m]RMS/Lady Gaga conspiracy theory there.Jun 25 01:45
schestowitzone that looked to legalise itJun 25 01:45
schestowitzbut I think he made other tasteless remark in other contextsJun 25 01:46
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, he did.Jun 25 01:46
schestowitzno proof thatJun 25 01:46
schestowitz1) he had cpJun 25 01:46
schestowitz2) he abused kidsJun 25 01:46
schestowitz3) produced cpJun 25 01:46
DaemonFC[m]There's a point where it's just creepy and that's generally why we have age of consent laws.Jun 25 01:46
schestowitzso the mere expression of a viewJun 25 01:47
schestowitzyoutube is littered with videos associating him with amos yee, who went bonkers and was banned by GAFAMJun 25 01:47
DaemonFC[m]He's made disturbing comments like that very young children should be "taught to have sex" by state officials.Jun 25 01:47
DaemonFC[m]*taught how toJun 25 01:47
schestowitzhow young?Jun 25 01:47
schestowitzI think I know the contextJun 25 01:47
schestowitzsexual education was taught to us around age 12...Jun 25 01:48
schestowitz...Jun 25 01:48
schestowitzand that means mensurationJun 25 01:48
schestowitzas girls were starting to 'bleed'Jun 25 01:48
schestowitzguys can have wet dreams etc.Jun 25 01:48
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schestowitzerections, and in some case two young kids doing... stuffJun 25 01:48
DaemonFC[m]Yeah. We didn't get that. When I was 12 we learned that AIDS will kill you, end of story.Jun 25 01:48
schestowitzin Russia they were taught to masturbateJun 25 01:48
DaemonFC[m]With a video from the 1980s (in 1996).Jun 25 01:49
schestowitzthe idea that only once one reaches 18 than BAM! sexual.... is falseJun 25 01:49
schestowitzyoung girls need to be prepared for things like blood coming out of their guy, hymen etc.Jun 25 01:49
schestowitzotherwise you can be worse off and kids can be mortifiedJun 25 01:49
schestowitzso one need to examine what RMS saidJun 25 01:50
schestowitzin contextJun 25 01:50
schestowitzthe whole subject is difficultJun 25 01:50
schestowitzit was even difficult for teachers at the timeJun 25 01:50
schestowitzhere they are teaching like 12 year olds about orgasms and stuffJun 25 01:50
schestowitzand in this age of P-C I suppose it's even more difficult for them to do such teaching jobsJun 25 01:50
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schestowitzit's not like they teach kids about BJs and stuffJun 25 01:51
schestowitzbut a case of "boys will be boys"... we need to at least provide informationJun 25 01:51
schestowitzthe classes were sometimes split based on gender because of more sensitive subjectsJun 25 01:51
schestowitzRMS did comment on people or races that mature faster than othersJun 25 01:52
schestowitzlike sexually-mature 16 year oldsJun 25 01:52
schestowitzwhether mentally mature is another rmatterJun 25 01:52
schestowitzCP is another matterJun 25 01:53
DaemonFC[m]The state sent me a plate renewal reminder for the Kia. Well, I was given very specific instructions not to talk to John about anything.Jun 25 01:53
schestowitzbecause depictions of that, unless animated, can greatly harm peopleJun 25 01:53
schestowitzgrown ups who were abused by clergy sometimes commit suicideJun 25 01:54
schestowitzor live a life of shocking memories long left behindJun 25 01:54
schestowitzthat's why laws were passed and the culprits tracked down onJun 25 01:54
schestowitz(cultures that allow sex with minors unsurprisingly don't think too highly of women's equality, either)Jun 25 01:55
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "grown ups who were abused by cle"> People commit suicide for all sorts of reason. I've considered it at various points. Basically, who hasn't?Jun 25 01:56
schestowitzthere's different phasesJun 25 01:56
schestowitz1) wish I was no born (RMS)Jun 25 01:57
schestowitz2) wouldn't mind not being bornJun 25 01:57
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "(cultures that allow sex with mi"> Well, no, because typically the way it goes down is it's some creepy old guy and a young girl.Jun 25 01:57
schestowitz3) contemplating what if I killed myselfJun 25 01:57
schestowitz4) considering killing oneselfJun 25 01:57
schestowitz5) trying to kill oneselfJun 25 01:57
schestowitz6) succeeding at killing oneself Jun 25 01:57
schestowitzand maybe some in betweenJun 25 01:57
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, my mom is one of those "You support killing babies!" people over abortion.Jun 25 01:58
schestowitz[01:57] <DaemonFC[m]> <schestowitz "(cultures that allow sex with mi"> Well, no, because typically the way it goes down is it's some creepy old guy and a young girl.Jun 25 01:58
schestowitzI think I am more disturbed byJun 25 01:58
DaemonFC[m]One day I said "I wish someone had done it for me.". Got rewarded with a slap across the face.Jun 25 01:58
schestowitz1) 70 year old marrying a 17 year oldJun 25 01:58
schestowitzthan 2) 20 year old marrying a 15 year oldJun 25 01:58
schestowitzshould be a case-by-case thingJun 25 01:58
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much. Jun 25 01:59
schestowitzthe whole below/above 18 thing is already challenged in some contexts by US states, like Romeo-Julia lawsJun 25 01:59
DaemonFC[m]When I was 19-20 I had sex with a few 16/17 year olds. Not lately. Jun 25 01:59
schestowitzit's esp. bad for girls as they sexually mature faster and many girls under age 18 have b/fs above age 18Jun 25 01:59
DaemonFC[m]Nearly  (17 in like 2016) but that was before he told me about how much he liked dogs.Jun 25 02:00
DaemonFC[m]I suddenly had to be somewhere else at that point.Jun 25 02:00
schestowitzYou told me that storyJun 25 02:00
schestowitzthat's zoophiliaJun 25 02:01
schestowitza creepy thing that overlaps animal abuseJun 25 02:01
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I thought he was putting me on for a few seconds just because it seemed so preposterous.Jun 25 02:01
DaemonFC[m]People always ignore bad results when they think what they're doing is okay.Jun 25 02:03
DaemonFC[m]Like, my mom is one of those "religious nuts" that did whatever she wanted to her whole life and then found god after life got boring anyway.Jun 25 02:03
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DaemonFC[m]As part of being all Jesus-ey now, she keeps harping at me over being gay and not givign a shit about abortion.Jun 25 02:04
DaemonFC[m]I keep saying "Adultery is its own commandment.". Jun 25 02:04
DaemonFC[m]"Maybe your marriage didn't work out with Gonad because you were messing around with someone who didn't care that you were a married woman and if a person is willing to do one nasty unethical thing they're willing to do others."Jun 25 02:05
schestowitz"Found God..."Jun 25 02:06
schestowitzWho ever found God?Jun 25 02:06
schestowitzIf it's invisibleJun 25 02:06
schestowitz(yet omnipresent, they tell us..)Jun 25 02:06
schestowitzI "found" the invisible thing... and it's STILL invisible :-)Jun 25 02:07
schestowitzyou need "faith" to make such ludicrous statementsJun 25 02:07
DaemonFC[m]If anyone ever does explain religious people to me they get an attaboy because I'll never understand it.Jun 25 02:08
DaemonFC[m]She's got some kind of mental illness with psychotic features.Jun 25 02:09
DaemonFC[m]She said she was seeing demons and shit when she lived with Dave because one of their houses was haunted.Jun 25 02:09
schestowitzmany people have thatJun 25 02:09
schestowitzbut under religion-tolerating criteria it's classified as OKJun 25 02:10
DaemonFC[m]Nobody else ever saw or heard anything there so she said demons pick one person to bother so everyone else thinks that person is crazy.Jun 25 02:10
schestowitz"man, do you believe in God?"Jun 25 02:10
schestowitz"cool"Jun 25 02:10
schestowitz"man, is Santa real?"Jun 25 02:10
schestowitz"INSANE!"Jun 25 02:10
schestowitzTell me the difference, it's all culturalJun 25 02:10
schestowitzOver a billion Muslims out there do literally believe truly insane things, toooJun 25 02:10
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, and psychiatry is so full of shit.Jun 25 02:11
schestowitz(not that Catholics have much saner beliefs)Jun 25 02:11
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schestowitzbut it is intolerant to call them delusional etc.Jun 25 02:11
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't want to step on their toes so you have to consider "cultural background" before diagnosing schizophrenia or something.Jun 25 02:11
DaemonFC[m]I realize I have bipolar disorder and I knew exactly what was happening to me. What is happening to me.Jun 25 02:12
schestowitzhumans are overratedJun 25 02:12
DaemonFC[m]I have some idea of what it must be like when a person is developing dementia but they know it.Jun 25 02:12
*schestowitz thinksJun 25 02:12
*schestowitz does tooJun 25 02:12
*schestowitz is a heJun 25 02:12
*schestowitz is a "they"Jun 25 02:12
*schestowitz sees SantaJun 25 02:12
*schestowitz sees GodJun 25 02:12
*schestowitz sees DemonsJun 25 02:12
*schestowitz sees DaemonFC[m]Jun 25 02:12
DaemonFC[m]It's not popular to say this, but there are two genders.Jun 25 02:13
*schestowitz is not crazyJun 25 02:13
DaemonFC[m]It's an unchangeable fact and cutting your dick off doesn't change that.Jun 25 02:13
*schestowitz is just different... enjoys tolerance of the differences ;-)Jun 25 02:13
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: well...Jun 25 02:13
schestowitzbiologicallyJun 25 02:13
schestowitzyou do get ambiguityJun 25 02:13
schestowitzbut that's a birth/conception defectsJun 25 02:14
schestowitznot a popular thing to doJun 25 02:14
schestowitznor P-CJun 25 02:14
schestowitzlike AphroditesJun 25 02:14
DaemonFC[m]If I want to be a woman there's nothing that will make me a woman, so why bother with fantasizing or whatever it is they do.Jun 25 02:14
schestowitzafaik, reproduction is difficultJun 25 02:14
schestowitzso from a nature/survival POV it's considered an anomalyJun 25 02:14
DaemonFC[m]Personally, I don't care. I don't know why anyone would care.Jun 25 02:14
DaemonFC[m]It was a coin toss and you got what you got.Jun 25 02:14
schestowitzin those cases we can accept some gender ambiguity, and biologists observe this in other species as wellJun 25 02:15
schestowitzthe radical cases are men who pretend to have uterus and PMS etc.Jun 25 02:15
DaemonFC[m]Reproduction is not a desirable thing in the modern world.Jun 25 02:15
DaemonFC[m]Consider that there were at least 10 million Americans who never get a job again on top of what we had before.Jun 25 02:15
schestowitzreligions like itJun 25 02:15
DaemonFC[m]If you never had legal abortion, there'd be 50 million on top of both of those.Jun 25 02:16
schestowitzit helps spread the religion by indoctrination  Jun 25 02:16
schestowitzconversions and defections are harderJun 25 02:16
DaemonFC[m]They're never going to get abortion made illegal. They might drive it out of some states, but people cross a stat line and do it anyway.Jun 25 02:16
DaemonFC[m]Including some of the activists that chased it out of the state to begin with.Jun 25 02:17
schestowitzby virtue of birth alone religious institutions can grow their numbers (and thus political power) much faster and more reliablyJun 25 02:17
DaemonFC[m]In the Philippines millions of women per year have abortions even though it's banned and they don't have 28 states with loose abortion laws.Jun 25 02:17
schestowitzcontraception is opposed by the Church thereJun 25 02:18
schestowitzeven the thug Duterte challenges the church on iotJun 25 02:18
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "conversions and defections are h"> Many people just stop believing on their own because the world is a splash of cold water.Jun 25 02:18
DaemonFC[m]It's hard to believe in a God that cares about you and all that when bad shit happens every day.Jun 25 02:18
schestowitzthat's what apostasy is forJun 25 02:18
DaemonFC[m]Leaving religion is not something that requires a lot of intelligence.Jun 25 02:18
schestowitzSaudi can arrest and kill apostates if they 'spread' their sanityJun 25 02:19
DaemonFC[m]Just enough to put 2 and 2 together.Jun 25 02:19
schestowitzbut there are social/peer pressuresJun 25 02:19
schestowitzlike losing approval from schools, relatives, sometimes friends tooJun 25 02:19
schestowitzthe support networks of apostates re targetedJun 25 02:19
schestowitzhenece Raif's arrest in Saudi ArabiaJun 25 02:19
schestowitziirc, some atheists' forumJun 25 02:20
schestowitzKSA is very radicalJun 25 02:20
schestowitzthey even try to convert christian visitors who are thereJun 25 02:20
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, well we know lots of people keep it to themselves.Jun 25 02:20
DaemonFC[m]They had Mandy in that weird Filipino cult.Jun 25 02:21
DaemonFC[m]There's like 2 million members and the rest of everyone else in the world is wrong and will burn in hell forever.Jun 25 02:21
schestowitzBrazil has those tooJun 25 02:21
schestowitzmankind or womankind is overratedJun 25 02:22
schestowitzwhile some people do capture some marvels and drive things forward a bunch of desert dwellers reproduce like rabbits who then kill other homo sapiens to spread their stupid, fiction-base religionJun 25 02:23
schestowitzthat's why humans are doomedJun 25 02:23
schestowitzthe numbers games favour those who hold society behind, and it's true at a national level too (cf trump voters)Jun 25 02:23
schestowitzholding up a stupid bible in 2020 because there's class/race revoltJun 25 02:24
schestowitzback to slavery times, with the book that justifies feudalismJun 25 02:24
schestowitzI still don't know why they use a bible in the inauguration while talking about separation between church [sic] and stateJun 25 02:25
schestowitzthe term church is in and of itself loadedJun 25 02:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft vague on the future of Windows virtualization on Mac following Apple Silicon transition - 9to5MacJun 25 02:26
schestowitzapple is committing suicideJun 25 02:27
schestowitzso weirdJun 25 02:27
schestowitzit is run by people on LSD (AGAIN)?Jun 25 02:27
DaemonFC[m]They had the idea of Windows on ARM.Jun 25 02:28
DaemonFC[m]Intel warned that it would sue over any x86 patents they had if they tried to virtualize x86.Jun 25 02:28
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schestowitzIntel is lostJun 25 02:32
schestowitzsome key people left recentlyJun 25 02:32
schestowitzI know closely two people who also leftJun 25 02:32
schestowitzthe writings are on the wallJun 25 02:32
schestowitzthey make overly complex and expensive chipsJun 25 02:32
schestowitzdefects, back doors, too high an energy consumption levelJun 25 02:33
schestowitzso the simpler and leaner ('agile') chips suddenly look OKishJun 25 02:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Loaded terms in free software []Jun 25 02:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: LWN Articles, LPC Town Hall and More []Jun 25 02:51
cubexyztell me which cpu is good for parallelization and doesn't get too hotJun 25 02:55
cubexyzthat's what I needJun 25 02:55
schestowitz"the cloud" CPUJun 25 02:58
schestowitzGCEJun 25 02:58
cubexyzyou told me to get off the GCE :)Jun 25 02:59
cubexyzoh well, no perfect solutionJun 25 02:59
cubexyzanyways, google uses intel a lotJun 25 02:59
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu Blog on Kubeflow Pipelines, MAAS 2.8 and “Masters” []Jun 25 03:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: RedPen, Jitsi Meet, Opera, LibreOffice []Jun 25 03:31
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 38,386 new covid19 cases in US Jun 25 03:45
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, it's badJun 25 03:51
DaemonFC[m]I hope that Shitdick forgets to renew his plate.Jun 25 03:57
DaemonFC[m]That's a paddling when the city gets ahold of him.Jun 25 03:57
DaemonFC[m]I purposely did not renew my free plate renewal benefit because John would be able to renew the plate without paying the $151 for the sticker.Jun 25 03:58
DaemonFC[m]Anything I can do to hurt him a bit..... Meh.Jun 25 03:58
superkuhI think intel is 'lost' because it's the end of the road and now it's competitive for other companies because there isn't giant year to year changes.Jun 25 03:59
superkuhSlowly less margin as CPU move from luxury objects to just another thing with low margin.Jun 25 04:00
superkuhThat anyone can make.Jun 25 04:00
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DaemonFC[m]Well, the 20 year patent cycle and age of the x86 instruction set itself just means that there's a constant patent cliff at this point.Jun 25 04:13
DaemonFC[m]We're at the point now I think where the patents on everything introduced in the Netburst Pentium 4 in 2000 is about to be expired.Jun 25 04:14
superkuhIt's only 20 years?Jun 25 04:15
DaemonFC[m]I think we're a few years away from anything on the original X86-64 CPU from AMD being expired and SSE3 around the same time.Jun 25 04:15
DaemonFC[m]So there's pretty much....most of the important things in the ISA in the public domain no later than around 2024-2025.Jun 25 04:16
DaemonFC[m]Intel's threats are going to mean increasingly less, so I can see why Apple is eager to switch to ARM.Jun 25 04:17
DaemonFC[m]They can do something like Rosetta again for a while for boring spreadsheets and stuff and then drop it.Jun 25 04:17
DaemonFC[m]It moves the Mac, which is a secondary product, onto the same family of CPUs as their phones. Jun 25 04:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 'A scary number' of retail companies are facing bankruptcy amid the coronavirus pandemicJun 25 05:46
DaemonFC[m]When is the last time any of these stores has had a customer?Jun 25 05:46
DaemonFC[m]I can't recall shopping at any of these places.Jun 25 05:46
DaemonFC[m]The square footage of retail is on the way down because these companies were already dying before the virus hit.Jun 25 05:47
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: This not getting a haircut thing is weird, but I guess we were broke anyway, so what the hell.Jun 25 05:50
DaemonFC[m]i went over it yesterday with no guard and just shaved it all off.Jun 25 05:50
DaemonFC[m]I look like Heisenberg (Walter White) and Mandy looks like the default Asian man from Fallout 3.Jun 25 05:51
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Here's one to note.Jun 25 05:52
DaemonFC[m] 25 05:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Technicolor Files for Restructuring in Bankruptcy Court, Citing Coronavirus ImpactJun 25 05:52
DaemonFC[m]The company my dad used to work for, when they called themselves Thomson, went bankrupt.Jun 25 05:52
DaemonFC[m]Well, I guess without the MP3 patents....but hey, Coronavirus! Jun 25 05:53
DaemonFC[m]I wonder what it is with Apple execs going to companies that later fail.Jun 25 06:07
DaemonFC[m]JC Penney and Technicolor this time.Jun 25 06:08
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: zoobab will be happyJun 25 06:51
schestowitzit's a patent troll in effectJun 25 06:51
schestowitzwe wrote several articles about this 'company'Jun 25 06:51
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schestowitz[05:46] <DaemonFC[m]> When is the last time any of these stores has had a customer?Jun 25 06:52
schestowitzwe went to town on the first day of reopeningJun 25 06:52
schestowitzin fact one hour after reopeningJun 25 06:52
schestowitzand it was like a ghost townJun 25 06:52
schestowitzI expected a city full of peopleJun 25 06:52
schestowitzso this shocked me Jun 25 06:52
schestowitzempty storesJun 25 06:52
schestowitzreopened just to see a few people walking like zombies with gel onJun 25 06:53
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schestowitzI found the whole thing a tad depressingJun 25 06:53
schestowitzwent to town twice sinceJun 25 06:53
schestowitzbut only because I needed a replacement for a broken adapter; ended up buying food tooJun 25 06:53
schestowitzthe concept of going there to shop as leisure? DEAD.Jun 25 06:53
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "we wrote several articles about "> Yeah, they fired thousands in Indiana to get rid of the consumer electronics division they acquired with the RCA purchase.Jun 25 07:06
DaemonFC[m]They actually ran that division throughout the 90s before shutting down entirely in 2004 and becoming a dedicated patent troll.Jun 25 07:06
DaemonFC[m]Patents aren't gone. They sold like 20,000 to someone else before putting themselves in bankruptcy. The CEO of Technicolor is indicted on serious crimes in France right now.Jun 25 07:07
schestowitzwe wrote about the passage of patentsJun 25 07:07
schestowitz2,678,426 covid19 tests in brazil with 1,192,474 positive. Imagine they tested 10 times as many...Jun 25 07:11
schestowitzjust got this:Jun 25 07:17
schestowitz"Jun 25 07:17
schestowitz> Sure. Well, I'll let you know when the next installment arrives. I'm notJun 25 07:17
schestowitz> sure what kind of time intervals they will be sent in, but I'll keep youJun 25 07:17
schestowitz> up to date. Jun 25 07:17
schestowitzHi Roy Jun 25 07:17
schestowitzThanks for the emails. Jun 25 07:17
schestowitzYes, the Gates/Epstein arrangement, from what I know, was predominantly to do with Trans-humanism and Depopulation. Many people who met with Epstein explained that he had an obsession with plans to use technology to create a 'superhuman'. He was also critical of Harvard's University's charitable work, explaining to them that they were contributing to 'overpopulation' by doing this. Jun 25 07:17
schestowitzI think the recent Filthy Rich documentary and the testimony of Ms. Farmer has turned the spotlight back on this case. Jun 25 07:17
schestowitzIn regards to Brett P., there is still no response from the company, which I expected. Let me know if you hear anything back from them. Yes, like you, I recognize that cases like this normally involve a network.Jun 25 07:18
schestowitzSo my interest in Magic Hour is piqued. Particularly with some of the symbolism, particularly the main logo on their website. Jun 25 07:18
schestowitz"Jun 25 07:18
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scientesTechnicolor!Jun 25 08:57
scientesshouldn't they have done that in the 50s?Jun 25 08:57
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schestowitzany typos here? 25 10:24
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MinceRschestowitz: i can't see any typos thereJun 25 12:42
schestowitzcheersJun 25 12:42
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schestowitzMinceR: he didn't say a fictional storyJun 25 14:24
schestowitzthis one is fictionJun 25 14:24
schestowitzyou cannot use OracleJun 25 14:24
schestowitzOracle always uses YOU!Jun 25 14:24
MinceRlolJun 25 14:25
MinceRIn Russia, Oracle uses YOU!!Jun 25 14:26
MinceRIn Uhmerica, Oracle uses YOU!!Jun 25 14:26
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smnthermesDo you folks think GTK4 is a sign of the death of desktop Linux?Jun 25 15:29
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MinceRno, i think systemd, gnome and the systemd cabal's influence on Linux isJun 25 15:30
MinceRalso microshit's influence on LinuxJun 25 15:30
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XRevan86 warning: the sixth panel is extremely offensiveJun 25 16:22
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schestowitzXRevan86: not as offensive as the number of people in the channelJun 25 16:39
XRevan86schestowitz: technically people & botsJun 25 16:40
MinceRlolJun 25 16:40
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superkuhYeah... trust the ISP that has been man in the middle attacking it's customers for the last decade+.Jun 25 16:49
superkuhI don't even use comcast dns and I pay for it.Jun 25 16:50
XRevan86superkuh: You mean, DNS server?Jun 25 16:50
smnthermesMinceR: why do you say "Waylandows"? Is it similar to Windows stuff?Jun 25 16:50
superkuhI mean I don't use their dns servers for lookups.Jun 25 16:51
superkuhBut my ISP is comcast.Jun 25 16:51
XRevan86superkuh: I don't use mine either, I resort to Quad9. But… I never thought of it as something I paid for…Jun 25 16:52
superkuhIt wasn't the most natural turn of phrase.Jun 25 16:52
XRevan86it's not that expensive to run DNSJun 25 16:52
smnthermess/it/WaylandJun 25 16:52
MinceRsmnthermes: mainly because most of its implementations, including the ones most beloved by the "modern" crowd, reproduce an old windows design flaw: window controls (window decorations) are handled by the application itself, so if the application freezes, you can't move, resize or close its window with the window decorationsJun 25 16:54
MinceRbut also because it's a windowing system with limited modularity and limited capabilitiesJun 25 16:54
smnthermesOn Windows, does it apply both to UWP and Win32?Jun 25 16:54
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schestowitz[16:40] <XRevan86> schestowitz: technically people & botsJun 25 17:34
schestowitzand hey hiJun 25 17:34
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*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Jun 25 18:55
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm not surprised to see Technicolor go under, nor am I shocked at the timing. The MP3 patents were, by far, their most valuable.Jun 25 18:55
DaemonFC[m]The company was completely unscrupulous in the way it treated its employees in the Consumer Electronics division. They basically stole my dad's pension.Jun 25 18:56
DaemonFC[m]I was amused that the MP3 patents expired because I figured that Technicolor would be next. That licensing program was the goose that was laying golden eggs.Jun 25 18:57
DaemonFC[m]Ugh, I need to be more organized. Jun 25 18:57
DaemonFC[m]I saved my call in PIN for the bankruptcy court to Untitled Document 2.Jun 25 18:57
DaemonFC[m]Here I was thinking that Tracker was useless.Jun 25 18:58
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: From the people who brought you Untitled Document and Untitled Document 2, comes UNTITLED DOCUMENT 3, starring Liam Neeson. "So what you're telling me is that there is a number and I have to call it, and if I call this number my bills go away?".Jun 25 18:59
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MinceR:)Jun 25 19:00
MinceRi'm still waiting for Copy of Untitled Document [1]_FINAL_FINAL_FINALJun 25 19:03
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, Thomson/Technicolor became disinterested in RCA's consumer electronics division and spent a decade running a company that used to go toe to toe with Sony for a lot of things under and finished it off by running the patent troll part of it into the ground and getting their CEO arrested too.Jun 25 19:04
DaemonFC[m]The reason they had such good MP3 support on their hardware in the late 90s when nobody else realized what this was, is that they were hoping to increase the market size for their patents.Jun 25 19:05
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DaemonFC[m]ChristJun 25 20:03
DaemonFC[m]I'm on the bankruptcy call getting ready for my appearance.Jun 25 20:03
DaemonFC[m]There's an illegal Mexican immigrant filing bankruptcy because she wrecked her car into someone, had no insurance, and got sued.Jun 25 20:03
DaemonFC[m]Shit on a biscuit. People wonder why people get aggravated about illegal immigrants.Jun 25 20:03
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DaemonFC[m]Holy shit.Jun 25 20:29
DaemonFC[m]Now he's chewing someone out for not exempting any household property at all.Jun 25 20:29
DaemonFC[m]He said "Ma'am, I'm assuming you own some clothes.".Jun 25 20:29
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MinceR"no, i rent them from my relatives. how did you think i ended up broke?"Jun 25 20:38
DaemonFC[m]LOLJun 25 20:39
DaemonFC[m]"No sir, I am a Ferengi from Star Trek. The females are traditionally nude in our culture."Jun 25 20:39
DaemonFC[m]"Why yes, yes I am hiding some gold pressed latinum."Jun 25 20:39
DaemonFC[m]I was laughing so hard that when they called my case I had to calm down before I unmuted the phone.Jun 25 20:40
DaemonFC[m]My bankruptcy was approved.Jun 25 20:44
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I'm over here having a celebration. Jun 25 21:06
DaemonFC[m]This horrible year is over and the only people who ended up really getting screwed over by that attempt on me are the government, the banks, and my ex.Jun 25 21:07
DaemonFC[m]You have to think strategically. 9 moves ahead of the other guy.Jun 25 21:08
DaemonFC[m]Let them underestimate you to their own demise. Jun 25 21:08
MinceRthe year isn't over, thoughJun 25 21:09
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Exactly 365 days from my arraignment, the bankruptcy goes through.Jun 25 21:09
DaemonFC[m]Perfect timing. Jun 25 21:09
MinceRicJun 25 21:10
DaemonFC[m]I didn't mean for it to happen precisely on the 12 month mark from my criminal arraignment. It just worked out that way coincidentally.Jun 25 21:10
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I fucked the state's case up behind the scenes and negotiated it away to a slap on the wrist. Jun 25 21:11
DaemonFC[m]Then threw all of the debt that came out of it into the bankruptcy along with a bunch of medical bills and shit. Jun 25 21:11
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The punishment comes out to a grand total of piss in a cup a few times and ask my psychiatrist for a note that headed probation "therapy" off at the pass.Jun 25 21:12
DaemonFC[m]By the time we got to December 9th, the probation officer didn't even bother to contest the conversion to unsupervised. Jun 25 21:12
DaemonFC[m]Also, I filed a motion (successfully) to retroactively reduce my fine.Jun 25 21:13
DaemonFC[m]It caught the judge by surprise, but he said "Well, yeah, I see what you're talking about now.".Jun 25 21:13
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I was sitting on a mountain of bills from the same village that assessed the fine.Jun 25 21:14
DaemonFC[m]Threw it all into the bankruptcy. Fuck them.Jun 25 21:14
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: One of the first movies I was watching with Mandy was some action movie with Gerard Butler.Jun 25 21:15
DaemonFC[m]A bunch of guys armed to the teeth are closing in on them. His dad makes some noise. He says "Why did you do that? Now they know where we are!".Jun 25 21:15
DaemonFC[m]His dad says, "Good. FUCK EM!" and hits a button and a line of claymoore mines and C4 go off.Jun 25 21:16
DaemonFC[m]I told Mandy, "That's exactly what you do. You draw the enemy closer thinking he has you and then you blow him up.".Jun 25 21:16
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: An ex of mine told me that I was off the scales as far as Machiavellian personality type went. I told him "Thank you!".Jun 25 21:18
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DaemonFC[m]I think it's why I like the Terminator series so much, MinceR  Even the really bad ones. I've watched all of them at least several times.Jun 25 21:20
DaemonFC[m]Cold. Methodical. Thorough. Relentless.Jun 25 21:20
DaemonFC[m]"Sorry. Gotta snap your neck. Just doing my job."Jun 25 21:21
DaemonFC[m]That's not to say, at least I wouldn't say that I enjoy hurting people or things. That really is a sickness. Just that I'll do it if I have to. Maybe I'll feel bad about it if you didn't hurt me, but if it's going to be you or me it's not gonna be me.Jun 25 21:22
DaemonFC[m]That's my take on things.Jun 25 21:22
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DaemonFC[m]So John has his car. I hope the engine blows up. Fuck him. Jun 25 21:23
DaemonFC[m]It's finally over. Jun 25 21:24
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Mom had to do something similar. When she got divorced from Gonad, the mortgage was still a joint account, but in the divorce settlement she signed a quit claim deed to the title of the house.Jun 25 21:24
DaemonFC[m]The judge ordered him to refinance it in his name, so he went and financed a new motorcycle, and then said nobody would refi the house because he was overextended.Jun 25 21:25
DaemonFC[m]So he never did. 8 years later, he has a heart attack and the fucker keels over in the living room.Jun 25 21:25
DaemonFC[m]So now his widow gets the house, and moves the entire rotten family into it.Jun 25 21:26
DaemonFC[m]They're all such bums that between like 5-6 adults living there, they can't come up with $540 a month on a mortgage to keep a two story 4 bedroom house, so the bank started up a lawsuit against my mom.Jun 25 21:27
DaemonFC[m]That was the point where she said "Nuh uh." and requested two weeks off unpaid from her boss at work.Jun 25 21:27
DaemonFC[m]It put her $156 under the filing threshold limit for a Chapter 7 bankruptcy.Jun 25 21:27
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DaemonFC[m]So she threw the house in and the Sheriff evicted the Culleys forthwith, and the bankruptcy also voided out some credit cards, over a hundred thousand dollars in medical bills, and several years of unpaid taxes that the first lawyer she went to said she'd never get rid of.Jun 25 21:29
DaemonFC[m]I told her "Find a new lawyer. If they're over 3 years old, and you actually filed on time for those years, you can get rid of it, along with any and all penalties and interest.".Jun 25 21:29
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Yeah, if it accomplishes my goal (in this case staying out of jail), and you are the one who put me in this awful position (John), I'll take you down to Chinatown, buddy, and there won't be a damned thing you can do about it because I'll figure out a way to get it done that can't come back on me.Jun 25 21:31
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The replicator attack has so far mostly benefited me, strangely enough.Jun 25 21:59
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