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DaemonFC[m]I have to take the car to the shop tomorrow.Sep 25 01:59
DaemonFC[m]The blower motor resistor seems to have failed.Sep 25 01:59
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: First Librem 5 Smartphones are Shipping http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128495 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e8db8d7d-f092-4f83-9f3a-7f011fb9257b]Sep 25 05:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Make Vim the Default Text Editor in Ubuntu and Debian http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128494 [https://pleroma.site/objects/888d0fbb-5b1f-4001-9961-1dc34f5a02e0]Sep 25 05:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Epic Games Contributes New SDL Video Driver For Offscreen Rendering http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128496 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ed237af0-8145-4fd8-94ed-d722e308f8c9]Sep 25 05:43
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128497 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d266d9ff-9387-450c-8a30-4fec476f4768]Sep 25 05:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux on Geniatech Hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128498 [https://pleroma.site/objects/76cfa138-be88-4af5-b4a3-dfd0db644a6a]Sep 25 06:02
DaemonFC[m]The Vivaldi browser is okaySep 25 06:04
DaemonFC[m]Defaults to Bing, but easily fixed.Sep 25 06:04
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Python and Google Code‑in http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128499 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f82ebc63-f942-485b-9b56-946f412f30d0]Sep 25 06:05
r_schestowitzwtf?Sep 25 07:00
r_schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: are they paid for it?Sep 25 07:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events: Kubernetes Contributor Summit and LibreOffice Conference 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128500 [https://pleroma.site/objects/09723477-0176-4d01-9094-ca870161c904]Sep 25 07:03
insmodppar_schestowitz: Not surprising given it's commercial nature (it's the Opera people after the Chinese buyout of that company). And yes, they do: https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/Sep 25 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's Vivaldi's business model? | Vivaldi BrowserSep 25 07:13
insmodppaBrowsers are getting worst by the day. Even Microsoft has thrown in the towel and ended up using Webkit/Chromium.Sep 25 07:19
r_schestowitz:/Sep 25 07:27
r_schestowitzwhat you guys use?Sep 25 07:27
r_schestowitzI use qupzilla stillSep 25 07:27
r_schestowitzafaik, daniel has not been bribed by some spying company yet, he just wants to make a good qt-based www rendererSep 25 07:28
insmodppaA really, really old version of Firefox for rendering plain HTML. If the site requires scripts to load, it's likely to be a waste of time to begin with.Sep 25 07:40
*r_schestowitz knows that above-mentioned feelingSep 25 07:40
psydroidI do have Falkon installed, but otherwise mostly Firefox ...Sep 25 07:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128501 #howto #gnu #linux #unix [https://pleroma.site/objects/3404f1b1-7c17-4ca6-98cd-83a40f2a50f5]Sep 25 07:43
r_schestowitzFirefox is bad for some reasonsSep 25 07:43
r_schestowitzbut the least bad in some aspectsSep 25 07:43
r_schestowitzmy wife still swears by FFSep 25 07:43
insmodppaMozilla Corp. stuffed it full of garbage and spyware, but I think the various forks have mostly solved that problem.Sep 25 07:49
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r_schestowitzyes, I can think of severalSep 25 07:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 8 Best Free Linux Camera Tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128502 [https://pleroma.site/objects/87ebd19a-cb7b-4421-ba06-ab49598f27a3]Sep 25 08:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128503 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ecf48cb9-ad55-4e07-8427-e91576bbf48d]Sep 25 09:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mirror your Android screen on your computer with Guiscrcpy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128504 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8de65c82-1436-407d-b3eb-20a778c1ca9f]Sep 25 09:15
psydroidwhat I am wondering about is if the (Servo) engine itself is salvageable and reusableSep 25 09:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Guest Article: Are We Still Removing Problems, or Removing Options? http://techrights.org/2019/09/25/gnu-linux-removing-options/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/791547bb-1474-4400-9e10-6a8d3791fd75]Sep 25 09:39
MinceR25 082713 < r_schestowitz> what you guys use?Sep 25 10:19
MinceRchromium, but it sucksSep 25 10:19
MinceRalso palemoon, but that sucks tooSep 25 10:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Time to Rename the Linux Foundation's Linux.com and Maybe Call it Linux.NET http://techrights.org/2019/09/25/linux-dot-net/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/3fae7828-81a6-4968-abaa-a5b083eaaf46]Sep 25 10:21
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/ec7fo2.pngSep 25 10:22
MinceRalso failfox at work, but that sucks tooSep 25 10:23
r_schestowitzlol MuricaSep 25 10:24
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19072147Sep 25 10:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectSep 25 10:56
r_schestowitzScott Adams, of "Dilbert" fame, threatens legal action over tweet mocking him https://boingboing.net/2019/09/24/scott-adams-of-dilbert-fa.html Sep 25 10:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Scott Adams, of "Dilbert" fame, threatens legal action over tweet mocking him / Boing BoingSep 25 10:56
MinceRlolSep 25 11:01
r_schestowitzScott will have his nuts cut off for these threatsSep 25 11:03
r_schestowitzmy image of him has now changedSep 25 11:03
r_schestowitzhe also streisand-effected this tweetSep 25 11:03
MinceRso has mineSep 25 11:06
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128505 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f9aae4b9-d890-4164-9bb9-f9cadb435451]Sep 25 11:13
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insmodppaI stopped visiting that site ages ago but Boing seems to enjoy being part of the mainstream media, what with their involvement and constant pushing of agendas.Sep 25 11:29
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/QUCOj5i.pngSep 25 11:31
MinceRi still enjoy dilbert but i find Scott's case sad, especially nowSep 25 11:31
MinceRsomehow recognizing use of persuasion methods in what Agent Orange did made him agree with all of Agent Orange's agendaSep 25 11:32
r_schestowitzI missed that..Sep 25 11:40
MinceR(audio:important) https://imgur.com/gallery/BL0fKpf   ( https://i.imgur.com/uczaTFK.mp4 )Sep 25 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anti video game commercial from the 90’s - Album on ImgurSep 25 11:41
XRevan86MinceR: Misleading title and captionSep 25 11:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Havocado, Depraved, Sky Racket, Broken Lines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128506 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bd271586-a6d1-4bec-8b4d-03d3bbc3c439]Sep 25 11:58
r_schestowitztrue, but...Sep 25 12:00
r_schestowitzI think that's not the pointSep 25 12:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128507 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bd9816e4-afcf-406e-8fb5-d0b182ad2bdc]Sep 25 12:06
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/22/594a0d73ed11c6ef.jpgSep 25 13:11
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DaemonFC[m]> DaemonFC: are they paid for it?Sep 25 16:34
DaemonFC[m]Why else would they default to Bing?Sep 25 16:34
DaemonFC[m]I use DuckDuckGo.Sep 25 16:35
DaemonFC[m]More private and they depend less on Bing these days, and they don't fuck with VPN users qnd people who don't log in or get Chrome.Sep 25 16:36
DaemonFC[m]I don't care who pays to be the default search engine.Sep 25 16:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Catmaze, AI War 2, and GOG http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128509 [https://pleroma.site/objects/392edb2d-0122-49bd-8743-4a6499bba447]Sep 25 16:37
DaemonFC[m]GNOME Web defaults to DuckDuckGo even though I'm sure someone would have paid more.Sep 25 16:38
DaemonFC[m]Google actually pays quite a bit even to browsers that don't have a lot of users because they can afford it and it crowds others out.Sep 25 16:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME Foundation is Being Sued Because of Shotwell Photo Manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128508 [https://pleroma.site/objects/82394579-90a3-4878-839b-3adc656ccff9]Sep 25 16:39
DaemonFC[m]Bing has gained basically no market share since the Windows Live Search days.Sep 25 16:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GameMode improvements for GNOME 3.34 and Fedora 31 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128510 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5e471067-213f-45c2-92bf-c6abe510d33b]Sep 25 16:42
r_schestowitz[16:35] <DaemonFC[m]> I use DuckDuckGo.Sep 25 16:47
r_schestowitzNow for privacy, that's for sure...Sep 25 16:48
r_schestowitz*NotSep 25 16:48
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Out of box H.264 and AAC support in Fedora 31 Workstation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128511 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0f10cc08-9369-4c5a-98bd-5ed420ef6f2e]Sep 25 16:55
insmodppaDuckDuckGo has some trust issues surrounding its founder, runs on Amazon US infrastructure and doesn't work without Javascript (you get a degraded page with no image search).Sep 25 17:05
r_schestowitzeven worseSep 25 17:22
r_schestowitzmuch moreSep 25 17:22
r_schestowitzI used to cover that ages agoSep 25 17:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Latest Software Patent Lawsuit Against GNU/Linux (GNOME) is Connected to Microsoft http://techrights.org/2019/09/25/microsoft-patent-troll-intellectual-ventures-gnome/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/df685e2c-6237-4df8-9930-c309dbd1fca3]Sep 25 17:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128512 [https://pleroma.site/objects/23b764dd-bad2-4e3b-8e74-ef5eced2e490]Sep 25 17:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New in Linux (Kernel): Updates on RasPi, WireGuard and Systemd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128513 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ad34f09a-89f3-45a5-97b3-91d769797c63]Sep 25 17:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Latest Jupiter (Linux Academy) Audiocasts/Shows http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128514 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d227129c-320a-410c-af83-d30c86b94d58]Sep 25 17:53
insmodppashh! I don't want a tomahawk through the window.Sep 25 17:54
r_schestowitzwe'll send an apache and Comanche insteadSep 25 17:54
r_schestowitzsomething called after genocide victimsSep 25 17:54
insmodppaI thought these days they just unleash Turbo Capitalism on the survivors.Sep 25 17:55
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r_schestowitzLow grade “journalists” and internet mob attack RMS with lies. In-depth review.Sep 25 18:06
r_schestowitzhttps://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122Sep 25 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sterling-archermedes.github.io | Low grade "journalists" and internet mob attack RMS with lies. In-depth review.Sep 25 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux MachinesSep 25 18:06
__martin__evening, more "drama" (= https://lwn.net/Articles/800516/Sep 25 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A patent lawsuit against GNOME [LWN.net]Sep 25 18:07
r_schestowitz[17:44] [Notice] -viera to #techrights- Tux Machines: Latest Software Patent Lawsuit Against GNU/Linux (GNOME) is Connected to Microsoft http://techrights.org/2019/09/25/microsoft-patent-troll-intellectual-ventures-gnome/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/df685e2c-6237-4df8-9930-c309dbd1fca3]Sep 25 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Latest Software Patent Lawsuit Against GNU/Linux (GNOME) is Connected to Microsoft | TechrightsSep 25 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaSep 25 18:07
r_schestowitz__martin__: Sep 25 18:07
__martin__thanks roy, i'll read for sureSep 25 18:07
r_schestowitzI don't have an LWN accountSep 25 18:07
r_schestowitzmaybe you can chain that to comments there?Sep 25 18:07
r_schestowitzIt is important to spread this information ASAP!Sep 25 18:08
__martin__no account either =/Sep 25 18:08
__martin__so it turns out that this "centos stream" will be "frozen" mediator between fedora & official rhel cycleSep 25 18:09
r_schestowitzhmmmSep 25 18:10
r_schestowitzdoesn't sound too reassuringSep 25 18:10
r_schestowitzso IBM wants to kill off the RHEL clones without really doing it?Sep 25 18:10
__martin__you mean oracle's clone maybe.. Sep 25 18:11
r_schestowitzothers alsoSep 25 18:12
r_schestowitzthe free-of-charge onesSep 25 18:12
r_schestowitzcentos being bought by rhtSep 25 18:12
MinceRthey've been trying to do that for agesSep 25 18:13
r_schestowitzthen scientific shutting downSep 25 18:13
r_schestowitzthey want to be 'open'Sep 25 18:13
r_schestowitzbut at the same time a monopolySep 25 18:13
r_schestowitzsystemd will help towards itSep 25 18:13
r_schestowitzvery frequent releasesSep 25 18:13
MinceRthey tried to keep their kernel patches secret, evenSep 25 18:13
r_schestowitzeveryone chasing bugs every week while rhel trots aheadSep 25 18:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128515 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ed53d12b-ff66-4b8e-b942-83e59efd6eb2]Sep 25 18:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi health monitoring HAT adds ESP32 and battery for wearables mode http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128516 [https://pleroma.site/objects/509c91e2-8b7f-4dbe-b0bc-818d9abeea67]Sep 25 18:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Easily Organize And Enjoy Your Linux Game Collection With GameHub http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128517 [https://pleroma.site/objects/32196bbe-bf5b-4c4e-86b3-82f66e55cf69]Sep 25 18:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Newest Version Of Zorin OS 15 Brings Linux And Open Source To The Classroom http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128518 [https://pleroma.site/objects/61f86f4f-24bf-46b2-97d8-180061a42982]Sep 25 18:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 7 Awesome Raspberry Pi Clusters http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128520 [https://pleroma.site/objects/350b8425-27c5-4b95-83bd-96816da8dbe0]Sep 25 18:42
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128521 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2119876e-436b-45b5-ab01-e2c1b2c2d7b0]Sep 25 19:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128522 [https://pleroma.site/objects/803f97ef-8040-45af-b059-c3184ab2893c]Sep 25 19:10
MinceRThe boss returned from lunch in a good mood and called the whole staff in to listen to a couple of jokes he had picked up.  Everybody but one girl laughed uproariously.  "What's the matter?" grumbled the boss. "Haven't you got a sense of humor?"Sep 25 19:22
MinceR"I don't have to laugh," she said.  "I'm leaving Friday anyway.Sep 25 19:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 25/9/2019: Patent Lawsuit Against GNOME, Zorin OS 15 Education Edition, First Librem 5 Linux Phones http://techrights.org/2019/09/25/patent-lawsuit-against-gnome/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/a9e34619-4244-4617-a7d0-72097bbf550c]Sep 25 19:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: Ruqola, Milanese Akademics and Krita 4.2.7 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128523 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1144aae6-98e2-4980-99a7-768d5b591a82]Sep 25 19:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128526 [https://pleroma.site/objects/aa02cc82-7569-4c46-b1cd-31f41d87c6b5]Sep 25 19:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Towards a UX Strategy for GNOME (Part 4) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128525 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e6a7738b-a075-41ba-9fb4-4fd38568d772]Sep 25 19:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Huawei's yet another Laptop lineup joins the Linux club! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128524 [https://pleroma.site/objects/041276b0-7539-4736-bf1d-1a33910deec0]Sep 25 19:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The /e/ Google-free, pro-privacy Android clone is now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128527 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e6d3bfb0-e1c1-471a-a246-9d3e18607bad]Sep 25 19:46
DaemonFC[m]Who cares what search engine a browser "defaults" to? As long as it doesn't stop you from using others.Sep 25 20:06
DaemonFC[m]Linux Mint was stripping out Google and making it impossible to restore it properly to their build of Firefox.Sep 25 20:06
DaemonFC[m]And then forcing people to use something else. Don't remember what. Sep 25 20:06
DaemonFC[m]The font handling in Vivaldi seems different than other Chromium browsers.Sep 25 20:51
DaemonFC[m]Looks more like Presto.Sep 25 20:51
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MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/30/13cd62191d8c13a0.mp4Sep 25 21:34
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/29/a1dc837d449db3e4.jpgSep 25 21:41
XRevan86"eat the rich"?Sep 25 21:42
MinceRand the others tooSep 25 21:44
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/22/7c8e85fd8b3cbb06.jpgSep 25 22:33
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/29/2644a67b22aad4a5.jpgSep 25 22:56
XRevan86"eat the rich"?Sep 25 22:57
MinceRlolSep 25 23:00
MinceRnot all useless suits are richSep 25 23:00
XRevan86hm, to me a suit is always an officialSep 25 23:02
XRevan86a chinovnikSep 25 23:02
XRevan86I guess it should have more of a corporate vibe…Sep 25 23:03
MinceRyes, i meant the corporate onesSep 25 23:11

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