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[00:05]	DaemonFC	Not as much as driving back and forth to the store every time there's a sale.
[00:06]	DaemonFC	The stores cycle through sales based on what their suppliers are charging them, so there is an element of unpredictability to it.
[00:07]	DaemonFC	Plus with all of the "supply disruptions", I mean sometimes you can't buy cheese, sometimes it's butter, sometimes it's eggs.
[00:07]	DaemonFC	I bought 60 eggs one day and then the next day there were no eggs.
[00:07]	DaemonFC	I buy things in bulk anyway.
[00:09]	chicksahoy	I buy bulk oatmeal and add my own flavouring to it, fuck those overpriced packages of flavoured oatmeal
[00:12]	DaemonFC	https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2547302056236/eat-lentils-and-let-your-pets-die-of-cancer-bloomberg-is-slammed-for-out-of-touch-op-ed-lecturing-americans-earning-less-than-300-000-on-how-to-beat-inflation
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[00:12]	TR Bot	lentils and let your pets die of cancer! Bloomberg is slammed for out-of-touch op-ed lecturing Americans earning less than $300,000 on how to beat inflation - NewsBreak
[00:14]	DaemonFC	Buying in bulk does save more money than the freezer costs to run.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	Aldi never really does have sales. They're not price-focused like they used to be.
[00:15]	DaemonFC	Using coupons, sales, and credit card bonus category months at the supermarket can be much cheaper than Aldi.
[00:15]	DaemonFC	Coupons aren't even really that time consuming anymore. Since most people don't use newspapers now, the manufacturers put coupons in the store's app.
[00:15]	DaemonFC	Then you put in your phone number and they all come off your total. No clipping or forgetting to use one.
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[01:02]	chicksahoy	DaemonFC: your phone number and deviceID probably get sold to the highest bidder tho
[01:09]	TR News	Kate & KWrite on Qt 6 - Kate Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162999
[01:09]	TR Bot	 Kate & KWrite on Qt 6 - Kate | Tux Machines
[01:10]	TR News	"Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from March 18 to March 25." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2022/03/twig-36/
[01:10]	TR Bot	 #36 Forty-two! This Week in GNOME
[01:11]	TR News	Get Creative with the All-New Pattern Creator https://wordpress.org/news/2022/03/get-creative-with-the-all-new-pattern-creator/
[01:11]	TR Bot	 Get Creative with the All-New Pattern Creator WordPress News
[01:18]	DaemonFC	<chicksahoy> DaemonFC: your phone number and deviceID probably get sold to the highest bidder tho
[01:18]	DaemonFC	Most likely.
[01:18]	TR News	3 Immutable Operating Systems: Bottlerocket, Flatcar and Talos Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163000
[01:18]	TR Bot	 3 Immutable Operating Systems: Bottlerocket, Flatcar and Talos Linux | Tux Machines
[01:18]	DaemonFC	Those stores get customer data and sell it using loyalty programs.
[01:18]	DaemonFC	But they can also get it from credit cards.
[01:18]	DaemonFC	And they do.
[01:19]	DaemonFC	Google buys customer shopping data processed by at least Visa and Mastercard and associates it with Google accounts.
[01:19]	DaemonFC	And then they do "personalized ads" with it.
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[01:26]	schestowitz	draft?
[01:26]	schestowitz	rianne saw your apple rant
[01:27]	schestowitz	I'm finalising a post re Microdsof
[01:33]	TR News	Microsoft Still Run by Criminals, as It Fundamentally Relies on Crimes | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/microsoft-loves-crimes/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/25/microsoft-loves-crimes/
[01:34]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Still Run by Criminals, as It Fundamentally Relies on Crimes | Techrights
[01:34]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163001
[01:34]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:36]	TR News	Wine 7.5 Released With HLSL Compiler Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162998#comment-33196
[01:36]	TR Bot	 Games: Steam Deck and Wine 7.5 | Tux Machines
[01:41]	TR News	How to Install Docker Compose on RHEL 8 (AlmaLinux/Rocky Linux/CentOS) - ByteXD <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://bytexd.com/how-to-install-docker-compose-on-rhel-8-almalinux-rocky-linux/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /><
[01:41]	TR Bot	to Install Docker Compose on RHEL 8 (AlmaLinux/Rocky Linux/CentOS) - ByteXD
[01:43]	TR News	Technically, Microsoft (and the NSA) are always logged in https://www.maketecheasier.com/know-if-someone-logging-into-windows-pc/
[01:43]	TR Bot	 How to Know if Someone Else Is Logging in to Your Windows PC - Make Tech Easier
[01:45]	TR News	EasyOS Dunfell-series 3.4.4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163002
[01:45]	TR Bot	 EasyOS Dunfell-series 3.4.4 | Tux Machines
[01:47]	TR News	Gammath SPOT version 2.8 (beta) released on 25 March 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT needs to delete Microsoft GitHub
[01:47]	TR Bot	 Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory
[01:48]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163003
[01:48]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[01:48]	TR News	Taking Screenshots on Linux Compared: 7 Different Desktops Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163004
[01:48]	TR Bot	 Taking Screenshots on Linux Compared: 7 Different Desktops | Tux Machines
[01:50]	TR News	They need to delete Microsoft GitHub https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/supercomputer_language_ai/
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[01:50]	TR Bot	 France's Jean Zay supercomputer to train massive AI model The Register
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[01:54]	TR News	Quantel Paintbox History: The Stylus That Revolutionized Television https://tedium.co/2022/03/25/quantel-paintbox-history/ Source: tedium
[01:54]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/03/25/quantel-paintbox-history/
[01:55]	TR Bot	 Quantel Paintbox History: The Stylus That Revolutionized Television
[01:55]	TR News	Canonical/Ubuntu: Spy Home, War on Words, and Ubuntu-MM Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163005
[01:55]	TR Bot	 Canonical/Ubuntu: Spy Home, War on Words, and Ubuntu-MM | Tux Machines
[01:56]	TR News	Microsoft knows no way other than crime; or, as I put it hours ago, Microsoft [is] Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Dont Participate in the Crimes http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/microsoft-loves-crimes/
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[01:58]	TR News	"Last week I posted that I was adjusting my workflow to use MacOS Native Fullscreen. Well, that was a bad idea. I ran into too many problems making it just not worthwhile." gemini://shit.cx/tech/devenv/2022-03-25-adjusting-for-monterey-fullscreen-is-a-bust/
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[02:10]	TR News	Links 25/03/2022: Parrot 5.0, New Wine, and EasyOS 3.4.4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/easyos-3-4-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/25/easyos-3-4-4/
[02:10]	TR Bot	 Links 25/03/2022: Parrot 5.0, New Wine, and EasyOS 3.4.4 | Techrights
[02:13]	TR News	Free Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163006
[02:13]	TR Bot	 Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
[02:13]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163007
[02:13]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[02:15]	TR News	The home testing kits for COVID-19 are a lot like pregnancy tests. I took my first COVID test yesterday. Negative. We have 20 kits (or tests rather) left, with expiry in 2024. The plan is to never get infected, at least not until better remedies exist.
[02:21]	TR News	"Lately I've been thinking more and more about shutting down my web server. The reason for this are the 3 million bots that either try strange "attacks" or are disgusting crawlbots." gemini://kamalatta.ddnss.de/THE_WEB_IS_DEAD.txt
[02:26]	TR News	Clown computing: "The vulnerability, which has a CVSS v3 severity score of 9.8, allows remote attackers to execute arbitrary code on the target device, in this case, WD PR4100 NAS, without requiring authentication." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/western-digital-my-cloud-os-update-fixes-critical-vulnerability/
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[02:26]	TR Bot	 Western Digital My Cloud OS update fixes critical vulnerability
[02:27]	TR News	Clown OS https://www.techradar.com/news/western-digital-my-cloud-os-update-plugs-a-nasty-security-hole
[02:27]	TR Bot	Digital customers urged to update to latest version of My Cloud OS | TechRadar
[02:28]	TR News	My Cloud? My clown? Whose clown? Everyone gets access... https://www.reviewgeek.com/113304/wd-my-cloud-users-should-update-to-avoid-a-dangerous-vulnerability/
[02:28]	TR Bot	 WD My Cloud Users Should Update to Avoid a Dangerous Vulnerability Review Geek
[02:29]	TR News	LOL. "A Mac is a powerful computer capable of serious work"... now let's look at... EMOJIS!!! https://screenrant.com/use-emoji-symbols-on-mac-how/
[02:29]	TR Bot	 How to Use Emoji, Arrows, Stars & Currency Symbols On A Mac Or MacBook
[02:30]	TR News	Steam Alpha Has Finally Arrived on Chromebooks https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/333000-steam-alpha-has-finally-arrived-on-chromebooks deep inside it's Gentoo GNU/Linux
[02:30]	TR Bot	Alpha Has Finally Arrived on Chromebooks - ExtremeTech
[02:32]	TR News	Intel acts like a company in disarray these days https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/intel_fpga_accelerators/
[02:32]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/intel_fpga_accelerators/
[02:32]	TR Bot	 Intel axes older FPGA cards, moves development to customers The Register
[02:35]	TR News	Is Chrome OS Desktop Linux? 8 Points to Consider Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163008
[02:35]	TR Bot	 Is Chrome OS Desktop Linux? 8 Points to Consider | Tux Machines
[02:35]	TR News	WD My Clown OS (Severity 9.8/10) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163009
[02:35]	TR Bot	 WD My Clown OS (Severity 9.8/10) | Tux Machines
[02:37]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-250322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-250322.txt
[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 25, 2022
[02:37]	TR News	Free Software Foundation award winners http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162755#comment-33199
[02:37]	TR Bot	 Free Software Awards winners announced: SecuRepairs, Protesilaos Stavrou, Paul Eggert | Tux Machines
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[02:46]	TR News	"Just for you, I host a few gemini-only services on my server." gemini://si3t.ch/log/2022-02-06-gemini-services.gmi
[02:47]	TR News	"What about a bit of Pfizer history?" gemini://clemat.is/gemlog/[2021-12-16]..Pfizer.History.....gmi
[02:49]	TR News	"Lagrange [1] keeps getting lovely new features in every update. As I've just updated mine I can now setup my favorite font. Which is nice since I am used to have JetBrainsMono everywhere from firefox to xterm." gemini://clemat.is/gemlog/[2021-12-10]..Lagrange.fonts.....gmi
[02:50]	TR News	COVID-19 raging in the east. 14,223 new cases and 16 new deaths in New Zealand. 30,716 new cases and 13 new deaths in Australia. Did NZ's isolation strategy buy it enough time to prepare? In South Korea it's mayhem at the moment.
[02:52]	TR News	I've converted UK mortality data into ODF http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/25/post-covid-19-mortality/
[02:52]	TR Bot	Blog Archive UK Government Data: How UK Mortality Rates Compare Pre- and Post-COVID-19
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[03:28]	schestowitz	> Lots of articles today about a whistleblower accusing Microsoft of
[03:28]	schestowitz	> massive bribery.  
[03:28]	schestowitz	> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=whistleblower+microsoft+bribery&ia=web
[03:28]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://html.duckduckgo.com/html/?q=whistleblower+microsoft+bribery&ia=web )
[03:28]	schestowitz	> <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=whistleblower+microsoft+bribery&ia=web>
[03:28]	schestowitz	> 
[03:28]	schestowitz	> No surprise, of course, but might help expose Microsoft's corruption of
[03:28]	schestowitz	> the patent office.  
[03:28]	schestowitz	duckduckgo is controlled by Microsoft: 
[03:28]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
[03:28]	TR Bot	 DuckDuckGo - Techrights
[03:28]	schestowitz	USPTO is one of many examples. In relation to the above story I mentioned the EPO hours ago:
[03:28]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/microsoft-loves-crimes/
[03:28]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Still Run by Criminals, as It Fundamentally Relies on Crimes | Techrights
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[03:31]	matey	which is gnome web? a wrapper over chrome or webkit?
[03:32]	matey	1. i thought it was over gecko but thats probably oldschool 2. i thought chrome wasnt webkit anymore 3. webkitgtk is moving to github, fyi
[03:34]	matey	chicksahoy   I buy bulk oatmeal and add my own flavouring to it, fuck those overpriced packages of flavoured oatmeal <- on top of this, the good flavours are rare. they stock mostly the disgusting ones youre tempted to throw away
[03:34]	matey	they would be smart to sell them individually
[03:34]	matey	this is why i do the same (buy plain and flavour it)
[03:41]	matey	MinceR   what used to be a day will be known as an "hour" <- putler isnt spock
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[04:10]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Friday, March 25, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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[04:15]	matey	here is the maintainer of gnu fontutils, fighting for your freedom
[04:15]	matey	https://github.com/StylusEater
[04:15]	TR Bot	(Adam M Dutko) GitHub
[04:15]	matey	I am a flexible technologist with a penchant for GNU/Linux solutions but an uncanny ability to apply solutions across cloud vendors and technology stacks.
[04:15]	schestowitz-TR	how long has it been there?
[04:16]	matey	the point is hes an active github developer https://github.com/StylusEater?tab=repositories
[04:16]	TR Bot	(Adam M Dutko) / Repositories GitHub
[04:16]	matey	keyword: active
[04:16]	schestowitz-TR	could this be employed-related?
[04:16]	matey	and you might think gnu developers (i dont even pay attention unless theyre project admin level) would 
[04:17]	matey	could this be employed-related? <- sure, but its under his name, not his employers
[04:17]	schestowitz-TR	it's not a new issue
[04:17]	matey	also it looks like he has his own 
[04:17]	schestowitz-TR	and predates 2018
[04:17]	matey	it's not a new issue <- no its not
[04:17]	schestowitz-TR	what do you want to do about it? shame them in public? it would be an awful idea
[04:17]	matey	and predates 2018 <- this is since 
[04:17]	schestowitz-TR	a lot of those recent projects aren't gnu
[04:18]	matey	what do you want to do about it? shame them in public? <- if by "shame them in public" you mean point out the great disparity between hype about freedom from the fsf and the actual attitude of gnu project admins, then yes
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[04:18]	schestowitz-TR	he works on many good projects
[04:18]	matey	i want to point out the great disparity in priorities-- or as you put it, "shame them in public"
[04:18]	schestowitz-TR	and their decision to use shithub may not be his decision at all
[04:19]	matey	and their decision to use shithub may not be his decision at all <- it looks like he has his own company
[04:19]	schestowitz-TR	matey: I think it's a well known problem btw
[04:19]	schestowitz-TR	you already did many articles to expose the severity of the issue
[04:19]	matey	if its a well known problem, we can talk about it without it being "shaming them in public"
[04:19]	schestowitz-TR	without naming the developers, only the projects
[04:19]	matey	fwiw i dont think they have any shame
[04:19]	matey	im not trying to make them cry.
[04:19]	schestowitz	in https://github.com/StylusEater?tab=repositories see the licences
[04:20]	schestowitz	not reciprocal sometimes
[04:20]	schestowitz	but not much gnu there
[04:20]	matey	"i cry all the way to the bank"-- liberace (who was proud to be gay, which is great)
[04:20]	matey	as proud as you can be while being (technically) closeted
[04:20]	matey	in https://github.com/StylusEater?tab=repositories see the licence <- fair enough
[04:20]	TR Bot	(Adam M Dutko) / Repositories GitHub
[04:21]	schestowitz-TR	today I checked FSD (directory)
[04:21]	matey	the licenses are what they are-- a mix of gpl and apache 2 and mit
[04:21]	schestowitz-TR	I still see many github links there
[04:21]	schestowitz-TR	too many to even be worth singling out projects
[04:22]	schestowitz-TR	some of them predate Microsoft
[04:22]	matey	im not singling out projects
[04:22]	schestowitz-TR	which is a criminal org BTW
[04:22]	matey	im pointing out one example of a trend
[04:22]	schestowitz-TR	those who are in denial about it sided with the criminals
[04:22]	matey	you try to mitigate this by saying its a trend actually
[04:22]	matey	the fact that its a trend is my entire point in displaing an example
[04:22]	matey	not to single it out, as you say
[04:22]	schestowitz-TR	the upside is, i'm told it's all over the media already
[04:23]	schestowitz-TR	so the idea that Microsoft isn't just the "M" in GAFAM but a lot worse than the rest might take hold
[04:23]	schestowitz-TR	matey: here's an idea
[04:23]	matey	lol
[04:23]	schestowitz-TR	as you have some scripts lying about; can it be checked how many GNU projects moved TO GitHub after Microsoft took over?
[04:23]	matey	and the "before 2018" thing is something ive already factored into my evaluations since more than a year ago
[04:23]	schestowitz-TR	because I think that might be more damning 
[04:24]	matey	as you have some scripts lying about; can it be checked how many GNU projects moved TO GitHub after Microsoft took over? <- that really cant be scripted
[04:24]	schestowitz-TR	knowing what is known now, choosing Microsoft for GNU hosting makes no sense
[04:24]	matey	not if you want accuracy
[04:24]	schestowitz-TR	gitea is nice
[04:24]	schestowitz-TR	gitlab is nonfree (pesudo), but also can be self-hosted
[04:25]	schestowitz	~/Git/Web-Site/Indexing$ git commit *
[04:25]	schestowitz	[master e1a7f1b] fig's work
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[04:25]	schestowitz	 create mode 100644 Web-Site/Indexing/coll.fig
[04:25]	schestowitz	 create mode 100644 Web-Site/Indexing/refsort.fig
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[04:25]	schestowitz	 create mode 100644 Web-Site/Indexing/wikidump.fig
[04:26]	schestowitz	 create mode 100644 Web-Site/Indexing/wikidump.fig.py
[04:26]	schestowitz	roy@vonick:~/Git/Web-Site/Indexing$ git push
[04:26]	schestowitz	Enumerating objects: 11, done.
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[04:28]	schestowitz-TR	sounds like spy agency
[04:28]	schestowitz-TR	smart_homeland: 
[04:28]	matey	people should be getting away from gitlab but its still a tiny step away which is-- a step away
[04:28]	schestowitz-TR	gitlab has issues too
[04:28]	matey	its not the best step to take at all, but its still technically better than the github monopoly
[04:28]	schestowitz-TR	as you say
[04:28]	schestowitz-TR	not sure you meant LAB
[04:28]	matey	Enumerating objects: 11 <- i think its at least 20
[04:29]	schestowitz-TR	but they had an IPO last year IIRC and they should show actual commitment to Free software, not Bait Softare
[04:29]	smart_homeland	security
[04:29]	matey	no, gitlab is a step away from the github monopoly. its not the one i recommend 
[04:29]	matey	in the same way that by-nd is the smallest step you can take away from all rights reserved, and i never recommend it
[04:29]	smart_homeland	just making sure you don't arm other nor yourselfs
[04:30]	schestowitz-TR	I looked into gitlab a lot in recent years because we checked how to present git
[04:30]	matey	gitlab is an awful mess
[04:30]	schestowitz-TR	of course not anyone can get write permissions, so all those massive CMSes are an overkill and technical debt
[04:30]	schestowitz-TR	same for mediagoblin
[04:30]	matey	not too impressed with mattleeagoblin
[04:31]	schestowitz-TR	an hour ago a friend of mine in his 90s broke his blog
[04:31]	schestowitz-TR	I told him nnot to add plugins and update
[04:31]	matey	anyway, i think you have this idea that i did this research in 2019 and since then ive been promoting it
[04:31]	schestowitz-TR	he did both, apparently
[04:31]	matey	its not like that at all
[04:31]	schestowitz-TR	and without telling me, we had no recent backups
[04:31]	matey	i keep revising and rechecking things
[04:31]	matey	and i always took pre-2018 and post-2018 into account, because i knew it would be the first thing people said about it
[04:31]	schestowitz-TR	wait, mattl isn't doing mediagoblin anymore
[04:32]	matey	thats fine
[04:32]	matey	but he was on it originally afaik
[04:32]	schestowitz-TR	it used to be weber, not it's that aussie guy whose name I know from swpats activism in aussie
[04:32]	matey	alright
[04:32]	schestowitz	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/mediagoblin.git/tree/
[04:32]	matey	but as you say bloat and technical debt
[04:32]	TR Bot	 mediagoblin.git -
[04:32]	schestowitz	Ben Sturmfels https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/mediagoblin.git/refs/
[04:32]	TR Bot	 mediagoblin.git -
[04:32]	matey	sure
[04:32]	matey	lets fold in what you say about the web
[04:33]	matey	can mediagoblin work without a browser?
[04:33]	schestowitz	seems like Will Kahn-Greene started it over a decade ago
[04:33]	schestowitz	Christopher Allan Webber then did it for 3 years
[04:33]	matey	oh the lovely christopher allan webber
[04:33]	schestowitz	then no activity for years, then Sturmfels steps in
[04:33]	matey	thats worse than matt lee
[04:33]	schestowitz	last release 6 months ago
[04:34]	matey	so at least someone has picked up maintaining it
[04:34]	schestowitz	example site: https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/tag/libreplanet-2016-video/
[04:34]	TR Bot	 libreplanet's media GNU MediaGoblin
[04:34]	schestowitz	Nice gallery of sites: https://mediagoblin.org/pages/tour.html
[04:34]	TR Bot	 MediaGoblin
[04:34]	matey	my goal in general is to regularly assess the state of free software 
[04:35]	matey	not to put blame where it doesnt belong, nor to sugarcoat an unpretty picture
[04:35]	schestowitz	Ours is bash and perl http://techrights.org/videos/
[04:35]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full Videos Index
[04:36]	matey	i stopped being a cheerleader when i noticed the bastions of freedom throwing the fight
[04:36]	schestowitz	nobody is perfect
[04:36]	matey	not just getting beaten, but laying down when they didnt have to
[04:36]	schestowitz	I still use Palm PDA
[04:36]	schestowitz	it's proprietrary
[04:36]	matey	nobody is perfect <- implying that i believe i can hold anyone to a flawless standard
[04:36]	matey	but thats not the point
[04:36]	schestowitz	right
[04:36]	schestowitz	I mentioned this yesterday
[04:36]	matey	this isnt about perfection-- its about laying down
[04:36]	schestowitz	[15:57] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- nitter.eu | J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling): "Critiques of Western cancel culture are possibly not best made by those currently slaughtering civilians for the crime of resistance, or who jail and poison their critics. #IStandWithUkraine https://bbc.in/3tBRsED" | nitter
[04:37]	TR Bot	 Alexei Navalny: Russia's jailed vociferous Putin critic - BBC News
[04:37]	matey	when people actually fought before, thats a baseline
[04:37]	schestowitz	wrong line
[04:37]	schestowitz	[14:14] <techrights-news> RMS critics: FSF is a bunch hypocrites. They compromise and don't care about 100% free software. Same critics: RMS is too radical, he's not accepting proprietary software. Make up your minds, critics....
[04:37]	matey	oh?
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[04:37]	schestowitz	but, ok, let's lay things as they are
[04:37]	schestowitz	1980s are long gone
[04:37]	schestowitz	and we now have more issues to address
[04:37]	schestowitz	and more tools at hand, too
[04:37]	matey	i paid closer attention in the late 90s and oughts
[04:38]	schestowitz	the government is NOT on our side
[04:38]	schestowitz	they will actively undermine us
[04:38]	schestowitz	like, look the other way when criminals from Microsoft bribe officials
[04:38]	schestowitz	the USG does not want Russia, for example, using GNU/Linux and its OWN chips
[04:38]	matey	or anyone else for that matter
[04:38]	matey	autonomy is the opposite of what tech companies want
[04:38]	schestowitz	so we are, by design, in a position of disadvantage
[04:39]	matey	and the way they deal with that is by insinuating themselves into our projects
[04:39]	matey	just like they did with hippie movements in the 1960s
[04:39]	schestowitz	yeah
[04:39]	schestowitz	exactly
[04:39]	schestowitz	the antiwar movement has many lessons here
[04:39]	matey	and indeed the same thing happened with the marxists 
[04:39]	schestowitz	rather, how they were made a "fasgion statement"
[04:39]	schestowitz	like "Open Source"
[04:40]	schestowitz	"I'm open source, I have a github account"
[04:40]	schestowitz	"I'm counterculture, I wear "funny" clothes"
[04:40]	matey	stalin rooted out all the bolsheviks in a similar fashion
[04:40]	matey	of course it wasnt hard to find them, they were victors of a revolution
[04:40]	matey	yes, fake progress and trappings of progress are a common theme in history
[04:41]	schestowitz	but let's pause on Russia for a moment
[04:41]	schestowitz	and get back to software
[04:41]	matey	making into just a tredy fashion statement
[04:41]	schestowitz	we have to break down the goals
[04:41]	schestowitz	and split up the tasks
[04:41]	schestowitz	like, software patents
[04:41]	schestowitz	reverse-engineering is another
[04:41]	schestowitz	EFF has thrown in the towel
[04:41]	matey	nobody is perfect
[04:41]	schestowitz	Mozilla is not Pentagon Valley
[04:41]	schestowitz	so they basically don't count anymore
[04:41]	schestowitz	or barely
[04:42]	matey	but yes, eff is crap
[04:42]	matey	mozilla is crap
[04:42]	schestowitz	it still has people like doctorow
[04:42]	schestowitz	I think they use him as a decoy
[04:42]	matey	doctorow is... alright i guess
[04:42]	schestowitz	while cohn and her mates do their political  activism, which has little to do with the EFF's original goals
[04:42]	matey	ive read a lot of his books, ive looked at one of his non-fiction books and owned and read another
[04:43]	schestowitz	he's OK, he's in good terms with me
[04:43]	schestowitz	and with us, in TR
[04:43]	matey	so is phipps
[04:43]	schestowitz	EFF helps him get by (living/salary)
[04:43]	schestowitz	so he can produce more books etc
[04:43]	schestowitz	Phipps is barely visible anymore
[04:43]	schestowitz	more he accepted his "retirement"
[04:43]	schestowitz	OSI's founders too, and Michael Tiemann
[04:44]	schestowitz	You never hear of Tiemann anymore
[04:44]	schestowitz	I wonder if he's in IBM
[04:44]	matey	back later 
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[04:44]	schestowitz	his kid is probably in college or after college already
[04:47]	TR News	Microsoft is a criminal org. Do now "delay", leave them now. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/nce/
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[04:47]	TR Bot	 Microsoft 365 prices to rise this month The Register
[04:47]	AdmFubar	do not delay
[04:47]	TR News	"China is this week staging its annual "Two Sessions" meetings, which see its pair of top decision-making bodies meet to set the agenda for the coming year. As usual there is plenty of material that touches on tech." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/china_two_sessions_2022/
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[04:47]	TR Bot	 China's annual parliament gives tech industry much to ponder The Register
[04:49]	TR News	Rosalie Chan still an agent of FUD https://www.businessinsider.com/open-source-developers-burnout-low-pay-internet-2022-3?r=US&IR=T see http://techrights.org/2021/06/27/blaming-torvalds/
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[04:49]	TR Bot	 Open-Source Developer Burnout, Low Pay Putting Web at Risk
[04:49]	TR Bot	 Holding Linus Torvalds Accountable for Things He Has Nothing to Do With | Techrights
[04:50]	TR News	Student Press Law Center (SPLC)... not to be confused with... you know who... https://splc.org/2022/03/splc-seeking-communications-fellow/
[04:50]	TR Bot	 Seeking Communications Fellow - Student Press Law Center
[04:56]	TR News	"In my quest to build my Offline-First typewriter, Im developing Offpunk, an offline-first, command-line based Gemini client (forked from AV-98 by Solderpunk)." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/
[04:57]	TR News	xkcd: Graphic Designers https://xkcd.com/2598/ Source: xkcd
[04:57]	TR Bot	Graphic Designers
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[04:57]	TR News	Full Circle Magazine: Full Circle Magazine #179 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/2022/03/25/full-circle-magazine-179/
[04:57]	TR Bot	 Full Circle Magazine #179 | Full Circle Magazine
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[05:00]	TR News	Capyloon mobile Web-based OS works on Pinephone Pro, Librem 5, Pixel 3a http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162993#comment-33200
[05:00]	TR Bot	 Capyloons web-based OS is now available for mainline Linux phones (PinePhone Pro and Librem 5) | Tux Machines
[05:02]	TR News	Animated GIF workshop with GIMP https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/animated-gif-workshop-with-gimp/
[05:02]	TR Bot	 Animated GIF workshop with GIMP GNU MediaGoblin
[05:03]	smart_homeland	Capyloon just what the world needs
[05:10]	TR News	Mike Gerwitz on the Ethics Void | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/mike-gerwitz-ethics/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/26/mike-gerwitz-ethics/
[05:10]	TR Bot	 Mike Gerwitz on the Ethics Void | Techrights
[05:10]	schestowitz	smart_homeland: assuming we want mobile phones at all
[05:10]	schestowitz	the laws surrounding them mandate tracking
[05:10]	schestowitz	for some people they are absolutely essential
[05:11]	schestowitz	traveling salespeople and such
[05:11]	schestowitz	but they ought to be a niche
[05:19]	smart_homeland	how did we get this far without it?
[05:19]	schestowitz	without mobile phone?
[05:20]	smart_homeland	yes? and all the leches they put on us
[05:20]	smart_homeland	hoe did humanty make it this far!?
[05:21]	schestowitz	you need to clarify a bit
[05:21]	schestowitz	maybe cynical?
[05:22]	smart_homeland	its the next step on human evolution for sure
[05:23]	TR News	SCHESTOWITZ.COM Turns 18 (or 20) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/26/schestowitz-com-turns-18-or-20/
[05:23]	TR Bot	Blog Archive SCHESTOWITZ.COM Turns 18 (or 20)
[05:24]	schestowitz	smart_homeland: if you mean rejection of "Smart" "tech" then I agree
[05:24]	schestowitz	but humans do not evolve much anymore
[05:24]	schestowitz	they just gravitate towards trends
[05:24]	schestowitz	and the trend-setters do not want real progress, they want more money and power
[05:24]	smart_homeland	to think my grand parents didn't had have electricity and they didn't die ?! mind explodes
[05:24]	schestowitz	so there's hope people will reject these trends
[05:25]	schestowitz	smart_homeland: yes, they read books
[05:25]	schestowitz	and borrowed some
[05:25]	schestowitz	better than "doomscrolling" social control media
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[05:59]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/nvidia_trillion_dollar_revenue/
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[05:59]	TR Bot	 Nvidia plans subscription-fueled journey to $1tr revenue The Register
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[06:00]	matey	thats enough money to go to war with
[06:00]	AdmFubar	we're going off to whore... we're going off to whore.. :P
[06:00]	matey	you could take over a whole country
[06:01]	matey	not a very big country, still thats something for people that make shitting graphics chips (also hey hi)
[06:08]	schestowitz	I've just done a video about https://ubuntu.com/blog/inclusive-language-and-its-future-at-canonical
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[06:08]	TR Bot	Language and its Future at Canonical | Ubuntu
[06:09]	schestowitz	AdmFubar: that seems like clickbair headline
[06:09]	schestowitz	nobody has that sort of revenue
[06:09]	schestowitz	*bait
[06:10]	AdmFubar	try more like bait and switch
[06:15]	matey	schestowitz you said dutko <schestowitz-TR> he works on many good projects
[06:15]	matey	can you think of one?
[06:16]	matey	id love to know what the definition of a "good project" is these days, it shouldnt be too hard. but finding examples isnt easy
[06:17]	matey	stallman did this great article around the time this chat started, 14 years ago: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.en.html
[06:17]	TR Bot	 Avoiding Ruinous Compromises - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
[06:18]	matey	ruinous compromise seems to be the name of the game these days
[06:18]	matey	we can say "well there are so many new challenges"-- not sure what they has to do with voluntarily selling out
[06:19]	matey	if youre really fighting for the user, when the opportunity to sell out comes along, its about as simple as saying "no"
[06:19]	matey	you would expect the standards to be higher, closer to the gnu project
[06:19]	matey	they are, occasionally
[06:20]	matey	but maybe im just on an ideological crusade-- thats why i go and find other people who see the same thing happening-- and feel like theyre being sold out
[06:21]	matey	maybe they still use a raspberry spy, but they have no delusions about the makers of the spy "fighting for their freedom"
[06:21]	matey	they can even outline a way that-- yes, this sucks, but at least it is part of a strategy that is plausible and has real goals
[06:22]	matey	the fsf cant do that, because they dont have one
[06:22]	matey	and if they do, its big and secret (year after year)
[06:22]	matey	we can ignore facts that are negative-- and speculate about the positive, in lieu of facts that give us any real reason to be optimistic
[06:23]	matey	but the funniest thing of all is when people go back and forth from "yes its bad" to "oh itll be fine" "how?" "just will" 
[06:24]	matey	various mentions of good things to come with no concrete examples (because there hardly are any)
[06:24]	matey	thats fine, its just not very convincing. it sort of flies in the face of everything we actually know
[06:24]	matey	but then again, thats the point.
[06:25]	matey	as if the reason some of us try so hard to show things the way they are isnt that we are tired of being lied to all the time.
[06:25]	matey	all the time
[06:26]	matey	the truth only comes out for five minutes, just to get plowed nicely back into the soil 
[06:27]	matey	so no matter how many bad examples there are (sort of like with climate change) you get handwavey bullshit as a retort
[06:27]	matey	and its a double standard always
[06:27]	matey	double standard of evidence
[06:29]	schestowitz	[06:15] <matey> schestowitz you said dutko <schestowitz-TR> he works on many good projects
[06:29]	schestowitz	I saw some projects that I know in there
[06:29]	matey	/me looks
[06:29]	matey	(again)
[06:29]	matey	just so we are clear, those are all on github
[06:30]	matey	10 or 11 since 2018
[06:30]	matey	i see waterfox
[06:31]	matey	there is actually ONE mozilla derivative that isnt developed on github
[06:31]	matey	its the only one i recommend
[06:31]	matey	along with moving away from the web (which is also a good idea)
[06:32]	matey	its also the one that helps fight censorship by TRYING to route around it
[06:33]	matey	but even though it actually does do something for freedom in real terms (and its free software, and it helps get mozilla off github)
[06:33]	matey	it is held to a higher standard than all this random shit that-- well, whatever
[06:33]	matey	i mean its arbitrary, theres no rhyme or reason or standards at work
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[06:39]	TR News	"In kernel version 5.17, both /dev/random and /dev/urandom have been replaced with a new identical algorithm based on the BLAKE2 hash function, which is an excellent security improvement." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/linux-improves-its-random-number-generator.html
[06:39]	TR Bot	Improves Its Random Number Generator - Schneier on Security
[06:40]	TR News	"The best free filesystem on Earth ZFS also often named OpenZFS recently has also become very portable in recent years of its development." https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2022/03/25/zfs-compatibility/
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[06:42]	TR News	"In this blog post we analyze a heap overflow vulnerability we discovered in the IPv6 stack of OpenBSD, more specifically in its slaacd daemon." https://blog.quarkslab.com/heap-overflow-in-openbsds-slaacd-via-router-advertisement.html
[06:42]	TR Bot	 Heap Overflow in OpenBSD's slaacd via Router Advertisement
[06:42]	TR News	"Devuan is a Linux distribution that aims to provide a simpler alternative to Debian." https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-devuan-linux/
[06:42]	TR Bot	 What is Devuan Linux and How to Install It - Make Tech Easier
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[07:10]	TR News	[Meme] Words That Offend Corporations | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/bribing-projects/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/26/bribing-projects/
[07:10]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Words That Offend Corporations | Techrights
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[07:31]	TR News	"Please never use this in any production code. The less we have to think about a piece of code, the better it is. It's a fun thought experiment nevertheless!" https://garrit.xyz/posts/2022-03-24-swapping-numbers-without-temp
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[07:32]	TR News	"The Pirates in the European Parliament welcome the final trilogue outcome of the Digital Markets Act (DMA) that was negotiated yesterday." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/dma-european-pirates-celebrate-success-with-interoperability-requirements-in-final-trilogue-results/
[07:32]	TR Bot	 DMA: European Pirates celebrate success with interoperability requirements in final trilogue results Patrick Breyer
[07:33]	TR News	"Elden Ring, one of the biggest games to launch this year, about being a miserable wandering maidenless wretch of a Tarnished on a Lord of the Rings type mission, is no exception" https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjbakq/elden-ring-3d-porn-creators
[07:33]	TR Bot	 How Is There Already So Much Elden Ring Porn? We Asked the People Who Made It
[07:33]	TR News	"Paul Graham has a great piece on how to disagree with people in the best possible way." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-to-disagree-paul-graham/
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[07:34]	TR News	"The museums collection spans the 12th to the 20th centuries, a period during which Lviv was part of the Mongol empire, Poland, the Austro-Hungarian empire, Imperial Russia, Poland again" https://www.economist.com/1843/2022/03/24/a-library-is-more-powerful-than-putins-aeroplanes
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[07:34]	TR Bot	library is more powerful than Putins aeroplanes | The Economist
[07:36]	TR News	"Arm is opening a new pilot innovation and demonstration (E3)NGAGE lab in partnership with the Cortex Hub, a regional technology incubator located in East London, Eastern Cape, South Africa." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4369
[07:36]	TR Bot	Opens Innovation Lab in South Africa - News - SparkFun Electronics
[07:39]	TR News	"A Dutch study published in the Environment International journal on Thursday examined blood samples from 22 anonymous, healthy volunteers and found microplastics in nearly 80 percent of them" https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1887556.html
[07:39]	TR Bot	 RTL Today - Invisible plastic: Scientists find microplastics in blood for first time
[07:40]	TR News	Windows TCO https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/estonian-tied-to-13-ransomware-attacks-gets-66-months-in-prison/
[07:40]	TR Bot	 Estonian Tied to 13 Ransomware Attacks Gets 66 Months in Prison Krebs on Security
[07:40]	TR News	"Unfortunately, thats all the detail we have right now." https://www.macworld.com/article/626219/apple-hardware-subscription-service-rumors.html
[07:40]	TR Bot	plots hardware subscription service for iPhone and other devices | Macworld
[07:41]	TR News	"According to Bloombergs report, the monthly charge wouldnt simply be the price of the device divided by 12 or 24 months, but rather be a still-undecided monthly cost, potentially with the option to upgrade to new hardware as its released." https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/24/22994814/apple-iphone-hardware-subscription-bundle-report
[07:41]	TR Bot	 Apple will reportedly sell the iPhone as a subscription service - The Verge
[07:42]	TR News	"Compared to the iPhone Upgrade Program, it would differ because Apple would charge a yet-to-be-determined monthly fee rather than splitting the cost of a device across a 12 or 24 month period" https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/24/apple-hardware-subscription-service/
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[07:42]	TR Bot	Developing Hardware Subscription Service for iPhones and Other Devices - MacRumors
[07:42]	TR News	"Adopting hardware subscriptions, akin to an auto-leasing program, would be a major strategy shift for a company that has generally sold devices at full cost outright" https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/03/25/apple-is-working-on-a-hardware-subscription-service-for-iphones/
[07:42]	TR Bot	 Apple is working on a subscription service for iPhones and other products
[07:43]	TR News	"Apple Inc. is working on a subscription service for the iPhone and other hardware products, a move that could make device ownership similar to paying a monthly app fee" https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/business/2022/03/25/apple-working-hardware-subscription-service-iphones-tdn/7166124001/
[07:43]	TR Bot	 Apple is working on a hardware subscription service for iPhones
[07:43]	TR News	"In Australia the research also found that 2021 saw a 642% increase in dark web leaks on the prior year and 38% of all attacks targeted organisations in NSW; ACT the least targeted geography." https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/australia-ranks-number-one-in-asia-pacific-for-most-ransomware-attacks.html
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[07:43]	TR Bot	- Australia ranks number one in Asia Pacific for most ransomware attacks
[07:44]	TR News	"This example is one of several well-documented instances of a compiler optimization inadvertently introducing a security weakness into a program." https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/03/25/towards-practical-security-optimizations-for-binaries/
[07:44]	TR Bot	 Towards Practical Security Optimizations for Binaries | Trail of Bits Blog
[07:45]	TR News	Windows TCO https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60869580
[07:45]	TR Bot	 US charges four Russians over hacking campaign on energy sector - BBC News
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[07:45]	bnchs	https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/19/british-volunteer-fighters-may-have-triggered-deadly-strike/
[07:45]	TR Bot	 British volunteer fighters may have triggered deadly strike on Ukrainian base after their phones were detected
[07:45]	bnchs	imagine trying to have a secret undercover base
[07:46]	TR News	"The US and the European Union (EU) have a preliminary agreement over the storing of European data on US soil." https://www.csoonline.com/article/3655076/u-s-eu-reach-preliminary-data-privacy-agreement.html
[07:46]	TR Bot	 US, EU reach preliminary data privacy agreement | CSO Online
[07:46]	bnchs	but british fighters bringing their retarded iphones connecting to the nearest stingrays
[07:46]	TR News	Social control media = meddling https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/twitter-expands-india-base-for-global-boost/90441169
[07:46]	TR Bot	 Twitter Expands India Base For Global Boost, CIO News, ET CIO
[07:47]	matey	a lot of places have strict rules to avoid exfiltration of dataf
[07:47]	TR News	"Today Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and President Biden have announced an "agreement in principle" on a new EU-US data sharing system." https://noyb.eu/en/privacy-shield-20-first-reaction-max-schrems
[07:47]	TR Bot	 "Privacy Shield 2.0"? - First Reaction by Max Schrems
[07:47]	bnchs	i guess this is an exception
[07:47]	matey	for example the sec gives you a special issue usb drive
[07:47]	matey	was there a story about a secret based found via iphones?
[07:47]	bnchs	https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/19/british-volunteer-fighters-may-have-triggered-deadly-strike/
[07:47]	TR News	"A newly-revealed Opinion of a European Commission review board about their own colleagues upcoming proposal for a Legislation to effectively tackle child sexual abuse shows strong concerns with the legislative proposal." https://edri.org/our-work/leaked-opinion-of-the-commission-sets-off-alarm-bells-for-mass-surveillance-of-private-communications/
[07:47]	TR Bot	 Leaked opinion of the Commission sets off alarm bells for mass surveillance of private communications - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[07:48]	matey	i dont doubt there are exceptions-- many exceptions. 
[07:48]	matey	i dont even have great confidence that most institutions take reasonable measures
[07:48]	bnchs	and the one thing
[07:48]	TR News	"Moreover, the opinion indicates that the draft law would also require this generalised monitoring to be done not just for material that has been assessed by authorities to ensure that it is unlawful" https://european-pirateparty.eu/chat-control-leaked-commission-paper-eu-mass-surveillance-plans/
[07:48]	TR Bot	 Chat control: Leaked Commission paper EU mass surveillance plans | European Pirate Party
[07:48]	bnchs	the volunteer fighters
[07:48]	bnchs	they brought their sim card
[07:49]	bnchs	to ukraine, (which was why +44 numbers appeared)
[07:49]	TR News	"This new Nest Hub will be a tablet that can be docked to a smart home device." https://pc-tablet.com/google-said-to-be-working-on-a-new-nest-hub-with-a-detachable-tablet/
[07:49]	TR Bot	 Google said to be working on a new Nest Hub with a detachable tablet
[07:49]	matey	thats tragic
[07:49]	bnchs	it just shows how uneducated these volunteers are
[07:49]	bnchs	maybe give them a burner phone
[07:49]	TR News	"Google has been known to be developing Fuchsia as a from-scratch operating system since at least 2016. Fuchsia ultimately saw its first launch last year on the first-gen Nest Hub smart display." https://9to5google.com/2022/03/25/fuchsia-engineering-director-mckillop-departs/
[07:50]	TR Bot	McKillop, director on Google's Fuchsia project, departs - 9to5Google
[07:50]	matey	the public is pretty poorly educated about tech
[07:50]	matey	the schools care more about sponsors than education
[07:50]	matey	the effects of this are not hypothetical
[07:51]	bnchs	either they educate volunteers not to bring their spy phones (since russians have stingrays)
[07:52]	TR News	"American government officials told The Washington Post that the Russian military was responsible for a cyberattack on a European satellite [Internet] service that affected Ukrainian military communications in late February" https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/25/22996187/russian-military-hack-viasat-internet-satellite-ukraine
[07:52]	TR Bot	 Russian military reportedly hacked into European satellites at start of Ukraine war - The Verge
[07:52]	bnchs	or maybe ban volunteers
[07:52]	smart_homeland	https://www.pcgamer.com/retro-computing-museum-in-ukraine-destroyed-by-russian-bomb/
[07:52]	TR Bot	 Retro computing museum in Ukraine destroyed by Russian bomb | PC Gamer
[07:53]	bnchs	bruh
[07:53]	bnchs	nooooooooo
[07:54]	smart_homeland	fucking russian
[07:54]	matey	fuck
[07:54]	smart_homeland	now i really wanna got to war with them and hang putin from the nearest lightpool
[07:54]	bnchs	i don't care if you kill people and shit
[07:54]	bnchs	just dont touch the museums
[07:55]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163010
[07:55]	matey	i really hope putin fucking dies
[07:55]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[07:56]	matey	crystalmath can cry at his funeral
[07:56]	smart_homeland	im glad i got a tetris rom backedup
[07:57]	matey	yes, because without a museum youd never find a working copy of tetris
[07:57]	bnchs	the computers are gone
[07:58]	matey	well i think its time for tributes to ukraines retro computing stuff
[07:58]	matey	maybe theres stuff online 
[07:58]	bnchs	they're might be the last computers without botnet
[07:59]	bnchs	and russians destroyed it
[07:59]	matey	bnchs are you following the stuff about sam zeloof
[07:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 83.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 244.15
[07:59]	matey	i mean its not like museum pieces are the answer to security. they might inspire someone though
[07:59]	bnchs	?
[07:59]	bnchs	whos sam zeloof
● Mar 26
[08:00]	matey	look up sam zeloof on youtube
[08:00]	matey	be inspired
[08:00]	matey	this is about computers
[08:00]	TR News	Microsoft is tied to hundreds of millions of dollars... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33201
[08:00]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
[08:01]	bnchs	ok
[08:01]	matey	ill clarify-- sam zeloof does things that are so exciting, its possible to actually shit yourself (though as of yet, this has not happened to me)
[08:02]	TR News	"Closed Projects is a retelling of a four-part series on my blog where I process the events that lead to the death of freenode, the largest IRC network for peer-directed projects." https://christine.website/blog/closed-projects-2022-03-24
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[08:02]	TR Bot	 Book Release: Closed Projects - Xe
[08:02]	TR News	"Israel feared that selling the cyberweapon to adversaries of Russia would damage Israels relationship with the Kremlin, they said." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/us/politics/pegasus-israel-ukraine-russia.html
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[08:02]	TR Bot	 Israel Blocked Sale of Pegasus Spyware to Ukraine and Estonia - The New York Times
[08:03]	matey	and its directly related to your comment about "last computers without botnet"
[08:03]	bnchs	matey: such as hobbyist microprocessor builder?
[08:03]	matey	right
[08:03]	TR News	"Five years ago, nobody had even heard of deepfakes, the persuasive-looking but false video and audio files made with the help of artificial intelligence." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/25/tech/deepfakes-disinformation-war/index.html
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[08:03]	TR Bot	 Deepfakes are now trying to change the course of war - CNN
[08:03]	bnchs	well that does sound cool
[08:03]	smart_homeland	isnt there a pirated copy of Pegasus Spyware
[08:04]	TR News	"Voloshinov flew first to Armenia, where he planned to stay for a week or two. But after just a few days, his father called him the police were looking for him in Moscow." https://text.npr.org/1087865980
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[08:04]	TR Bot	 Meet the Russians who are fleeing not the war, but their own government
[08:04]	TR News	"On Tuesday, February 8, I submitted a FOIA request to the city of Anchorage." https://bookriot.com/book-censorship-newss-march-25-2022/
[08:04]	TR Bot	 The Censorship Story I Can't Tell You: This Week's Book Censorship News, March 25, 2022
[08:05]	bnchs	smart_homeland: pegasus might also be a reason
[08:05]	matey	people are still doing 3d printing, its not just a fad
[08:05]	bnchs	you could possibly find a vulnerability inside the phones' modems
[08:05]	TR News	"The European Commission announced that it will propose follow-up legislation that will make the use of chatcontrol mandatory for all e-mail and messenger providers." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-control/
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Chat Control Patrick Breyer
[08:05]	bnchs	that allows for code execution
[08:05]	matey	the future should have more people doing silicon
[08:06]	smart_homeland	it only works on asus xomputers
[08:06]	bnchs	matey: yes
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[08:06]	smart_homeland	bigger boobos
[08:06]	bnchs	people just emulate CPUs nowadays
[08:06]	bnchs	interpreter/dynarec
[08:07]	matey	i used emulation a lot when i was working on a distro
[08:07]	matey	id make a few changes, spit out an iso automatically, then open it in qemu
[08:07]	bnchs	yeah
[08:07]	TR News	"What does the [Internet] do? Lots of stuff, but the two things I want to focus on here are distribution and memory." https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/its-not-cancel-culture-its-cancel-ade
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[08:07]	TR Bot	 It's not Cancel Culture, it's Cancel Technology
[08:07]	bnchs	it depends
[08:07]	matey	after enough iterations of this it was worth trying on real metal, but during most tests that wasnt necessary
[08:10]	TR News	"All reporters in Myanmar are at risk of being jailed just for doing their job, says a veteran journalist now in exile" https://www.voanews.com/a/press-freedom-is-dead-already-in-burma-journalist-says/6501778.html
[08:10]	TR Bot	 'Press Freedom is Dead Already in Burma,' Journalist Says
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[08:12]	smart_homeland	https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60870100
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[08:12]	TR Bot	considers accepting Bitcoin for oil and gas - BBC News
[08:12]	TR News	"In front of it stood Stella Moris, looking beautiful and serene with delight. She wore a stunning gown in a light lilac, designed for her by Vivienne Westwood. It had a mild satin shimmer, and appeared both sumptuous and tightly tailored, with an expansively lapeled jacket section diving in to a wasp waist" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/03/free-enduring-love/
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[08:12]	TR Bot	 Free, Enduring Love - Craig Murray
[08:12]	smart_homeland	another price hick for bitcoin gwad dammit
[08:14]	smart_homeland	https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/
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[08:14]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[08:14]	TR News	"The family buried the man in their own rice field, but authorities and residents continued to harass them." https://www.rfa.org/english/news/laos/christian-family-03242022170133.html
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Officials tell Lao Christians to remove videos of attack by authorities, villagers Radio Free Asia
[08:14]	smart_homeland	fucking eligal coins
[08:14]	smart_homeland	ilegal
[08:14]	TR News	Bezos and Amazon deserve a lifelong boycott "https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/business/amazon-meetings-union-elections.html
[08:14]	TR Bot	 How Amazon Is Resisting Unions in Two Upcoming Elections - The New York Times
[08:16]	TR News	Internet under attack in times of war, showing its fragility across many levels https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjbapv/diy-volunteers-are-repairing-ukraines-destroyed-internet-infrastructure
[08:16]	TR Bot	 DIY Volunteers Are Repairing Ukraines Destroyed Internet Infrastructure
[08:16]	TR News	"The company is also operating the gov.ua TLD, a much sought for and much attacked zone. Kohmanyuk connects with international partners and he tries to assure the .ua team dispersed" https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/Running-the-ua-top-level-domain-in-times-of-war-6611777.html
[08:16]	TR Bot	 Running the ua.-top level domain in times of war | heise online
[08:17]	TR News	"DEGRADING AND ideally destroying your opponents ability to communicate are elementary military tactics. And, in its war on Ukraine, Russia has certainly attempted to do this." https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2022/03/26/the-degrading-treatment-of-ukraines-internet
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[08:17]	TR Bot	degrading treatment of Ukraines internet | The Economist
[08:18]	TR News	USA, Inc. Up for sale, piece-wise. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/mgms-amazon-era-begins-with-big-unanswered-questions-1235116671/
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[08:18]	TR Bot	 MGMs Amazon Era Begins With Big, Unanswered Questions The Hollywood Reporter
[08:18]	TR News	"The debate over the degree of flexibility at the disposal of national courts in Europe to grant, deny, or tailor, injunctive relief in patent litigation seems to be a never-ending story" https://www.jipitec.eu/issues/jipitec-11-1-2020/5079
[08:18]	TR Bot	 Cutting Back Patent Over-Enforcement How to Address Abusive Practices Within the EU Enforcement Framework jipitec
[08:19]	schestowitz	smart_homeland: it'll be a shame when more states ban them like china and half a dozen other nations did
[08:20]	schestowitz	and then the price will reach its real value
[08:20]	smart_homeland	wich is 0.00000001
[08:20]	TR News	"How to Fix Our Broken Patent System, a whitepaper providing a comprehensive view of the issues plaguing the patent system today" https://www.eff.org/pages/defend-innovation
[08:20]	TR Bot	 Defend Innovation | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[08:21]	TR News	Independent News Stories Were Tracking https://www.projectcensored.org/the-project-censored-newsletter-march-2022/
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[08:21]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/the-project-censored-newsletter-march-2022/ )
[08:21]	smart_homeland	will bitcoin wallet be using tpm2?
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[08:22]	smart_homeland	fucking waste of energy and hardware
[08:23]	matey	fucking waste of energy and hardware <- like most wars
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[08:25]	CParadoxum__	I hate cryptobros so much its unreal
[08:25]	CParadoxum__	Especially this NFT fad
[08:25]	smart_homeland	im pretty sure bitcoin real use id to crack passwords for the nsa
[08:25]	schestowitz	lol
[08:25]	schestowitz	way to fake being rich
[08:25]	CParadoxum__	smart_homeland: sounds like it
[08:25]		*CParadoxum__ remembers when buttcoin was still "underground" and mostly used to buy drugs and assasins
[08:26]	smart_homeland	and all transation recordef ad eternum in the blockchain
[08:28]	TR News	Microsoft GitHub is an attack on society. GitHub is run by criminals. Can we please stop boosting GitHub? https://hackaday.com/2022/03/25/get-github-tickets-irl-with-a-raspberry-pi-and-a-receipt-printer/
[08:28]	TR Bot	GitHub Tickets IRL With A Raspberry Pi And A Receipt Printer | Hackaday
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[08:28]	TR News	"The US Senate has approved the Sunshine Protection Act, a bill to make Daylight Saving time the default time and do away with the annual time changes." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/25/high-noon-for-daylight-savings-time/
[08:28]	TR Bot	Noon For Daylight Savings Time | Hackaday
[08:31]	TR News	"A federal court in Florida maintains that there is no reason to believe that hosting company Quadranet is liable for the [sharing] activities of its VPN customers." https://torrentfreak.com/court-null-routing-is-not-a-practical-anti-piracy-measure-220325/
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[08:31]	TR Bot	Null-Routing is Not a Practical Anti-Piracy Measure * TorrentFreak
[08:32]	TR News	Unauthorised IPTV https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-services-disrupted-by-dozens-of-rightsholders-on-multiple-fronts-220324/
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[08:32]	TR Bot	IPTV Services Disrupted By Dozens of Rightsholders On Multiple Fronts * TorrentFreak
[08:33]	TR News	"Rights and freedoms in Russia have been restricted to the point that the country is de facto under martial law." https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/26/the-war-at-home
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[08:33]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[08:33]	TR News	The "pedo guy" Elon Musk https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/25/on-elon-musk-and-free-speech/
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[08:33]	TR Bot	Elon Musk And Free Speech | Techdirt
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[08:37]	TR News	"So weve already noted how OAN was booted off of the DirecTV lineup, severing a massive mainstream distribution avenue for the conspiracy and fantasy channel." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/25/ted-cruz-mike-lee-join-dumb-baseless-gop-quest-to-pretend-oan-was-unfairly-censored/
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[08:37]	TR Bot	Cruz, Mike Lee Join Dumb, Baseless GOP Quest To Pretend OAN Was Unfairly Censored | Techdirt
[08:39]	TR News	Wall Street Times https://fair.org/home/new-york-times-fear-of-ordinary-people-talking-back/
[08:39]	TR Bot	 New York Times' Fear of Ordinary People Talking Back - FAIR
[08:40]	TR News	"The union election could make the JFK8 warehouse the first unionized Amazon facility in the country" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/25/former-amazon-worker-leads-thousands-warehouse-employees-historic-union-vote
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[08:41]	TR Bot	 Former Amazon Worker Leads Thousands of Warehouse Employees in Historic Union Vote
[08:42]	TR News	Stop saying "Big Tech"; you're helping the criminals known as Microsoft employees distract from their crimes. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/25/consumer-rights-groups-applaud-eu-passage-law-rein-tech-titans
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[08:42]	TR Bot	 Consumer Rights Groups Applaud EU Passage of Law to Rein in Tech Titans
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[08:46]	TR News	App = crapp https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/another-tracker-scanning-app-highlights-need-better-way-protect-victims-digital
[08:46]	TR Bot	 Another Tracker Scanning App Highlights the Need for a Better Way to Protect Victims From Digital Stalking | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[08:47]	TR News	"Under the settlement, Proctorio dropped its copyright claim and other claims it had filed blaming Johnsons advocacy for damaging its reputation and interfering with its business." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/eff-client-eric-johnson-and-proctorio-settle-lawsuit-over-bogus-dmca-claims
[08:47]	TR Bot	 EFF Client Erik Johnson and Proctorio Settle Lawsuit Over Bogus DMCA Claims | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[08:56]	TR News	Canonical is Becoming Softer (Pro-Microsoft and Against Free Speech) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/canonical-self-censorship/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/26/canonical-self-censorship/
[08:57]	TR Bot	 Canonical is Becoming Softer (Pro-Microsoft and Against Free Speech) | Techrights
[08:58]	TR News	"Very serious laughably ridiculous buffoon stunt journalists, Project Veritas, had its account banned from Twitter a year ago, a couple months before its founder James OKeefe also had his own account banned as well." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/25/project-veritas-loses-its-defamation-lawsuit-against-cnn-because-the-truth-is-just-as-damning-as-what-cnn-said/
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[08:58]	TR Bot	Veritas Loses Its Defamation Lawsuit Against CNN Because The Truth Is Just As Damning As What CNN Said | Techdirt
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[08:59]	TR News	drm + copyright abuse https://youtu.be/PcHLCxmSvBQ
[08:59]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PcHLCxmSvBQ
[08:59]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | Onewheel Uses Copyright to Prevent Right-to-Repair (Future Motion v. JW Batteries) - Invidious
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[09:01]	TR News	MinceR: "no, i don't think putler will be able to get his forces into the usa" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250322.html#tMar%2025%2001:28:25 iophk: already has: they're called facebook
[09:01]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 25, 2022
[09:02]	TR News	09:30 about company deleting posts https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/future-motion-doubles-down-on-screwing:b
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[09:02]	TR Bot	 Future Motion DOUBLES DOWN on SCREWING customers with defective, unrepairable Onewheel GT scooter
[09:04]	TR News	Wikipedia is a battleground for shills, liars, lobbyists, and even criminals scheming to break the law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Patent_Court https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unified_Patent_Court&offset=&limit=500&action=history
[09:04]	TR Bot	 Unified Patent Court - Wikipedia
[09:04]	TR Bot	 Unified Patent Court: Revision history - Wikipedia
[09:04]	TR News	When it comes to patents, wikipedia became a prime source of propaganda and misinformation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patents_under_the_European_Patent_Convention
[09:04]	TR Bot	 Software patents under the European Patent Convention - Wikipedia
[09:05]	TR News	Shills for software patents looking to profits from their lies https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/upcoming-patent-protection-for-software-related-inventions-in-europe-and-the-usa-webinar-in-3-days---attend-from-anywhere-301506669.html
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[09:05]	TR Bot	 Upcoming Patent Protection for Software-Related Inventions in Europe and the USA Webinar in 3 Days - Attend From Anywhere
[09:06]	TR News	Kilburn & Strode LLP, a patent LITIGATION firm, advertising ways to BREAK the law. It profits from misleading and breaking the rules. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=b6aa891e-ce3a-47b2-ac17-4cfae85224d8
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[09:06]	TR Bot	the technicality requirement for software inventions at the EPO (T 2653/16) - Lexology
[09:06]	TR News	Whose guard is it? https://www.aclu.org/news/human-rights/the-coast-guard-destroyed-their-livelihoods-will-the-supreme-court-hear-their-case
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[09:06]	TR Bot	 News & Commentary | American Civil Liberties Union
[09:07]	TR News	Propaganda terms versus you reeairing your own things that you bought https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5618&context=flr
[09:08]	TR News	Ethical, easy-to-use and privacy-conscious alternatives to well-known software https://switching.software/
[09:08]	TR Bot	 Ethical, easy-to-use and privacy-conscious alternatives to well-known software
[09:09]	TR News	"Extracting oil is about 93% efficient,[1] and moving it to the refinery varies in efficiency depending on method; pipelines are best at 78%.[1] Let's assume just that one method." https://soylentnews.org/~VanessaE/journal/10537
[09:09]	TR Bot	 Journal of VanessaE (3396)
[09:14]	TR News	proprietary software is no charity https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/25/more-gaming-for-good-charity-bundles-fortnite-team-up-to-raise-millions-for-ukraine/
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[09:14]	TR Bot	Gaming For Good: Charity Bundles, Fortnite Team Up To Raise Millions For Ukraine | Techdirt
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[09:34]	TR Bot	 Links 26/03/2022: Capyloon and Status of Chrome OS, Fuchsia | Techrights
[09:36]	TR News	Enable/Disable Auto Update & Upgrade in Unattended Upgrades on Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163011
[09:36]	TR Bot	 Enable/Disable Auto Update & Upgrade in Unattended Upgrades on Ubuntu | Tux Machines
[09:37]	TR News	Proprietary Sofwtare Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163012
[09:37]	TR Bot	 Proprietary Sofwtare Leftovers | Tux Machines
[09:37]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163013
[09:37]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[09:37]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163014
[09:37]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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[09:46]	TR News	More articles on Microsoft crimes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33202
[09:46]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
[09:47]	TR News	Reiser died https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=a452c4eb404df8a7f2a79a37ac77b90b6db1a2c9
[09:47]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[09:47]	bnchs__	how did he die
[09:47]	bnchs__	having his asshole enlarged by tyrone?
[09:48]	TR News	Nate too busy https://pointieststick.com/2022/03/25/this-week-in-kde-coming-tomorrow/
[09:48]	TR Bot	 This Week in KDE: coming tomorrow! Adventures in Linux and KDE
[09:49]	TR News	Don't do it. Microsoft=CRIMINALS. Do not add criminals to your system. https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-powershell-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
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[09:50]	TR Bot	 How to Install PowerShell on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - Linux Shout
[09:50]	TR News	verified
[09:50]	TR News	Steam Starts Collecting Feedback From Users on Steam Deck Verified titles - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/steam-feedback-users-on-steam-deck-verified/ Source: boilingsteam
[09:50]	TR Bot	 Steam Starts Collecting Feedback From Users on Steam Deck Verified titles - Boiling Steam
[09:51]	TR News	Syncthing is a great way to transfer files from PC to Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/syncthing-is-a-great-way-to-transfer-files-from-pc-to-steam-deck Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
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[09:51]	TR Bot	is a great way to transfer files from PC to Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[09:51]	TR News	The criminals from Microsoft blame Free software for their proprietary software failing https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/github_outage_details/
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[09:51]	TR Bot	 GitHub explains reasons behind the past week's outages The Register
[09:53]	TR News	The Change Game: MeitY Resorts To Quick Fixes To Silence Experts https://internetfreedom.in/the-change-game-meity-resorts-to-quick-fixes-to-silence-experts/ Source: internetfreedom
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[09:53]	TR Bot	 The Change Game: MeitY Resorts To Quick Fixes To Silence Experts
[09:55]	TR News	GCC LoongArch port accepted and maintainers appointed https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2022-March/238452.html
[09:55]	TR Bot	 LoongArch port accepted and maintainers appointed
[09:56]	TR News	3 Top Free and Open Source Ruby Web Frameworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163015
[09:56]	TR Bot	 3 Top Free and Open Source Ruby Web Frameworks | Tux Machines
[09:57]	TR News	Many communities have widely adopted codes of ethics governing the moral conduct of their members and professionals. Some of these codes may even be enshrined in law, and for good reasoncertain conduct can have enormous consequences on the lives of others. http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/mike-gerwitz-ethics/
[09:57]	TR Bot	 Mike Gerwitz on the Ethics Void | Techrights
[09:57]	TR News	What happens when criminals from Microsoft get to impose speech restrictions on projects, by essentially bribing those projects to censor the community (volunteers)? http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/bribing-projects/
[09:57]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Words That Offend Corporations | Techrights
[09:57]	TR News	 IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 25, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/irc-log-250322/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/26/irc-log-250322/
[09:58]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 25, 2022 | Techrights
[09:58]	TR News	In the name of protecting us the folks at Microsoft Canonical herald a new era of censorship and self-censorship http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/canonical-self-censorship/
[09:58]	TR Bot	 Canonical is Becoming Softer (Pro-Microsoft and Against Free Speech) | Techrights
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[10:23]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/25/22995144/microsoft-foreign-corrupt-practices-bribery-whistleblower-contracting
[10:23]	TR Bot	 Microsoft is tied to hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign bribes, whistleblower alleges - The Verge
[10:24]	DaemonFC	They could be charged with a lot of things, including the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
[10:24]	DaemonFC	But they won't.
[10:24]	DaemonFC	Biden wants the "HoloLens" even though the product failed and Microsoft fired everyone. :)
[10:25]	DaemonFC	They never took any legal action against these employees, even while they know they are stealing the companys money and the governments money, he says. The hidden message to employees is do whatever you want, make as much money as you can, and the worst that can happen is youll get fired.
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[11:02]	XRevan86	Meduza now publishes the whole articles into Atom/RSS.
[11:02]	XRevan86	Makes sense, since there's an audience that can't follow the link to the website.
[11:20]	DaemonFC	I think I may have coined a term years back by mocking Walmart for taking out life insurance on low ranking hourly workers.
[11:20]	DaemonFC	Near as I can figure, I was the first person to refer to the policies as "dead peasant insurance" in Wikipedia, and now there's a bunch of financial websites using the term.
[11:25]	DaemonFC	They bought Walmartsucks dot com for an undisclosed amount of money after threatening a defamation SLAPP suit against the guy running the forums there.
[11:25]	DaemonFC	They've been parking the domain ever since then.
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[13:13]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-21-22-1.jpg
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[13:25]	matey	i figured out what githubs business model is
[13:25]	matey	its a big secret, its going to shock everyone who didnt think of it (they probably did though)
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[13:26]	matey	incredibly, its the same model as walmart in the 1980s or microsoft itself when they took over nokia-- or ibm when they took over red hat
[13:27]	matey	its called blowing money taking over the competition. not really a new thing
[13:27]	matey	walmart goes into the red making it so no one can compete: "oh, they have no business model"
[13:27]	matey	tht might be true 40 years later
[13:28]	matey	but just the fact that microsoft has done it countless times... hmm
[13:28]	matey	its pretty much their thing
[13:29]	matey	they even did it to ibm to get rid of os/2
[13:30]	matey	lets pretend they bought github to make money, not to buy the biggest lock-in since windows and drdos
[13:31]	matey	theyre just trying to cover costs or keep it manageable
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[13:32]	matey	but it should be obvious, theyve done it enough times. i think everybody knows it
[13:33]	matey	best way to make it worthwhile: participate
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[13:44]	matey	several years ago, the fsf ceased to respond in an adaptive way to any new threats at all
[13:44]	matey	they became an automated freedom system
[13:45]	matey	if youd like a scripted answer about licenses, press 1
[13:45]	matey	if youd like to install gnu with linux as if all other kernels suddenly became irrelevant, press 2
[13:46]	matey	if youd like to hear another string of promises about how we are actually going to change and evolve next year, for real this time, press 3
[13:46]	matey	so for about 7 years, people have sworn that if we just stay on hold, we will get a live agent
[13:47]	matey	i dont think they even care about users having freedom, i think they just like hold music
[13:50]	matey	thank you for holding, your business is important to us. every year, when we ask you to become a member.
[13:58]	matey	people find relief in being lied to. columbo would have made short work of these arseholes
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[14:08]	kingoffrance	columbo?
[14:08]		*kingoffrance watches whoosh sound over all the young ppl
[14:09]	MinceR	:)
[14:13]	matey	columbo has done very well in the binge-watching era
[14:13]	matey	though to be fair, i have no numbers at all on age demographics :)
[14:14]	matey	his wife was very big on star trek!
[14:14]	matey	(janeway was also mrs. columbo)
[14:14]	matey	young people know him as fred savages grandpa
[14:15]	matey	i saw a 20 something in a burger place wearing an inigo montoya pin
[14:18]	matey	one of the reasons that the fsf gets away with so much is that people dont put stories together 
[14:18]	matey	when they got free marketing representation, no one cared because it hadnt changed anything yet
[14:19]	matey	then when they started becoming even more full of shit, nobody cared because the marketing consultation they got was in the past
[14:19]	matey	if everything happens separately, and theres never any connection between events, theres literally no causal relationships and nothing to support any theory that things are bad-- everything is great!
[14:21]	matey	of course if you give a shit about history (as if 3 years ago is "historical" yet) then theres cause for concern. but lets just ignore that.
[14:21]	matey	i didnt even like history when i was in school, it was torturously boring.
[14:21]	matey	no one said it was the ultimate weapon against bullshit.
[14:21]	matey	they really should have
[14:22]	matey	i learned that history was a weapon when i started using it against open source more than 10 years ago
[14:23]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/22/funny-times-kids-got-names-hilariously-wrong/
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[14:23]	TR Bot	 17 Times Kids Hilariously Had The Wrong Name For Someone
[14:24]		*psydruid always liked history even in school, although he realises that was only the history teachers wanted him to know about
[14:24]	matey	thats why youre smarter than me
[14:28]	psydruid	I always think of it as studying history in order to plan for the future
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[14:29]	matey	it helps with that too
[14:29]	matey	i realised through using it the way i did, that history is more about the present and future than it is about the past
[14:30]	matey	and again, schools should have mentioned that. then again, education is a low priority for schools
[14:30]	matey	schools also ensure that teaching is a low priority for teachers
[14:31]	matey	sometimes theyre allowed, and some of them know how
[14:32]	matey	the internet provides so many opportunities for guerilla teaching
[14:32]	matey	but just like with teaching jobs, you often have to be willing to move a lot
[14:33]	activelow	matey> youre a single point of failure though
[14:34]	activelow	what made you think this?
[14:34]	matey	activelow: your work is only available locally
[14:35]	matey	if there were other people working on it, and the work was public, it would not be a single point of failure
[14:36]	matey	even if they were only assisting you
[14:38]	activelow	the problem isn't i am working locally, problem is german bureaucratic apparatus kept strangling me
[14:39]	matey	as i understand it, there are quite a few people living outside of germany and even the eu
[14:39]	matey	if even one were to assist in your work, and keep it public, there would be no single point of failure
[14:40]	activelow	problem isn't publication, problem is coordination of efforts, and ensuring I can live and work in peace
[14:40]	matey	as far as i can tell, there is never a way to ensure working and living in peace
[14:41]	matey	the world is at war with everyone (just not equally)
[14:41]	activelow	anyway, sorry for interrupting, just wanted to clarify it is not me at fault, nor any other free software developer
[14:41]	activelow	it is the corrupt german bureaucratic apparatus which is
[14:42]	matey	oh i was stating it matter of factly
[14:42]	matey	it doesnt have to be your fault
[14:42]	matey	anymore than the sun rising in the morning
[14:44]	activelow	btw. i did cirulate some minor patches to see what happens
[14:45]	matey	its a start
[14:45]	activelow	result being, looted again, nothing in return
[14:45]	matey	but the best way to get patches accepted of course
[14:45]	matey	is to maintain a project that accepts them
[14:46]	matey	failing that you can do like microsoft and buy your way in, but-- no, neither of us could do that
[14:54]	matey	basically everything in this article applies to the fsf, not just canonical http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/canonical-self-censorship/
[14:54]	TR Bot	 Canonical is Becoming Softer (Pro-Microsoft and Against Free Speech) | Techrights
[14:54]	matey	the difference is that canonical hasnt really stood for anything in at least 10 years
[14:55]	matey	and with the fsf its 7 (but thats a cynical and pithy way of putting it, which glosses over at least a couple of exceptions)
[14:56]	matey	so the fsf is still technically better than canonical, but you have to squint
[14:56]	matey	the real difference is that we EXPECT the fsf to stand for more than canonical
[14:56]	matey	and we should
[14:58]	matey	"a post that I wanted to respond to in video form. Its harder to take videos out of context." yes its harder to sit through the video than read text
[14:58]	matey	and then you have to transcribe it and provide timestamps
[14:59]	matey	basically video is just more of a pain to work with
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[15:03]	matey	funnily enough, with a long read (like a book) it flips the other way around, and its easier to sit through a video
[15:04]	matey	unless the image is jittery and theres loud beeping in the background
[15:04]	matey	it really depends
[15:05]	matey	above all, i love the title "Lessening Free Speech Is Not Ethics"
[15:05]	matey	thats exactly what i said about the fsf boards new bs in 2022
[15:06]	matey	they are just putting a bunch of crap together and calling it "ethics"
[15:07]	matey	ethical source, but kuhn says "no, dont put it in the license"
[15:07]	matey	if you want to rebrand a lot of oppressive bullshit as "ethics" make it a POLICY, not license
[15:07]	matey	then its-- still bullshit posing as ethics
[15:08]	matey	but at least the license isnt worthless, and that is better than "ethical source"
[15:08]	matey	seems like it isnt just the fsf and kuhn running with this theme
[15:09]	matey	but thats not surprising. kuhn was speaking for the coup, and the coup is too smart to bother with a worthless license, when it can destroy projects more efficiently with (more) worthless policies.
[15:10]	matey	coc 1, target acquired, launch coc 1
[15:10]	matey	coc 2, target acquired, launch coc 2
[15:10]	matey	take off every coc (close enough) move coc
[15:11]	matey	code of conduct, meet code of ethics
[15:11]	matey	twice the fun, and your projects done
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[15:24]	bnchs	"After you install the Mozilla Rally add-on, currently available for Firefox, well ask you to provide optional demographic data. This information helps us understand the composition and representativity of the Rally community. "
[15:24]	bnchs	man just tell us what's your SKIN COLOR
[15:24]	bnchs	and RACE
[15:25]	bnchs	so we can say it's diversity and shit
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[15:35]	MinceR	lol
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[15:42]	bnchs__	why wasn't there a single virus written for beos
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[15:46]	kingoffrance	dont know about haiku and later, but personal edition era, many were still on dial up i think.        also IIRC lawsuit settled about how ms was strongarming OEMs into not shipping the "personal edition"  (meaning, this is also a "why did beos not take off?" question, surely)
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[15:47]	kingoffrance	i mean, R5 (and previous) at least, IIRC it was single user, cant imagine there was a ton of security, i could be wrong
[15:47]	kingoffrance	just too small of a target is my guess
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[15:56]	matey	 <bnchs__> why wasn't there a single virus written for beos <- there were a few, nobody ran beos long enough to discover one
[15:57]	matey	^ just guessing
[15:57]	matey	/me got a dos virus once
[15:58]	matey	mcafee killed it
[15:59]	matey	boot sector virus. then when nobody wrote boot sector viruses anymore, the bios started protecting against writes to the boot sector (which you disabled if you wanted to install an os)
[15:59]	bnchs___	boot sector protection?
● Mar 26
[16:00]	bnchs___	never had that at all
[16:00]	matey	i did on a couple machines
[16:00]	matey	it was already obsolete
[16:00]	bnchs___	people just target EFI now
[16:00]	matey	today you could just dd your boot sector and compare it to a hash
[16:01]	matey	yeah this was when flash rom was new or unheard of
[16:01]	bnchs___	it involves shit like corrupting the EFI variables (hope that your EFI implementation is good enough to prevent this)
[16:01]	bnchs___	i mean to handle this
[16:01]	bnchs___	because sometimes if the EFI implementation is poorly written and shit
[16:02]	bnchs___	it will just brick your computer
[16:02]	matey	(old) https://www.techworm.net/2016/02/running-rm-rf-is-now-bricking-uefi-based-linux-systems.html
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[16:02]	TR Bot	 Running "rm -rf /" Is Now Bricking UEFI Based Linux Systems TechWorm
[16:02]	matey	spoiler: systemd
[16:03]	matey	lennart was predictably a douche about it
[16:04]	matey	lord of the distro
[16:06]	matey	/me gives root access to aquaman
[16:07]	matey	shapiro and poettering have similar attitudes
[16:08]	bnchs___	lennart is a big fag
[16:08]	bnchs___	not gonna lie
[16:09]	matey	he can bang whoever he wants, but he should wait until pid > 18
[16:09]	bnchs___	not fag as in homosexual
[16:09]	bnchs___	but fag as in he's a big faggot
[16:10]	matey	as in 4chan?
[16:10]	bnchs___	yes
[16:10]	matey	they use it for anything
[16:10]	bnchs___	you can say that aswell
[16:10]	matey	"straightfags"
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[16:10]	matey	never saw that one, im sure someone used it
[16:11]	matey	maybe spelled str8 for added irony
[16:12]	bnchs___	it's a throwback to when people used gay and fag as a general insult
[16:12]	bnchs___	"this program is gay"
[16:13]	matey	mostly the 80s and 90s
[16:13]	matey	im sure it survived that
[16:14]	matey	but when open homosexuality became more mainstream it was used less
[16:14]	matey	"this program is so g-- um, not you jake"
[16:15]	matey	also most of the people i knew outgrew it
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[16:17]	bnchs__	i remember back in the early days of youtube
[16:17]	bnchs__	people used it a lot
[16:17]	matey	i think youtube started in 2005
[16:17]	bnchs__	yeah
[16:17]	bnchs__	i'm talking about 2005-2011
[16:18]	matey	/me wonders whatever happened to kasem g
[16:18]	matey	itd be funny if he was a venture capitalist now
[16:19]	matey	maybe hes a producer
[16:20]	matey	maybe lisanova is the governor of alaska now
[16:20]	matey	and tay zonday can play darth vader in an upcoming star wars film
[16:21]	bnchs__	have you ever remembered a specific phrase
[16:21]	bnchs__	FAKE AND GAY
[16:22]	matey	https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fake-and-gay
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[16:22]	TR Bot	 Fake and Gay | Know Your Meme
[16:22]	schestowitz	I've just come back...
[16:22]	matey	urban dictionary entry as well
[16:22]	schestowitz	busy day topday
[16:22]	schestowitz	Tried to install devuan
[16:22]	schestowitz	didn't go
[16:22]	bnchs__	i heard it back in equals three
[16:22]	bnchs__	ray william johnson
[16:22]	schestowitz	proprietary wifi
[16:22]	matey	you should have tried devuan when it sucked less
[16:22]	schestowitz	tried Debian 11
[16:22]	schestowitz	same
[16:23]	matey	proprietary wifi <- could have told you
[16:23]	schestowitz	didn't startt with openbsd
[16:23]	matey	openbsd doesnt have proprietary wifi afaik
[16:23]	matey	theyre against non-free drivers
[16:23]	schestowitz	downloading the new lmde 5 atm
[16:23]	bnchs__	matey: yeah sure
[16:23]	XRevan86	schestowitz: https://debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#firmware
[16:23]	schestowitz	well, so openbsd if not for this laptop
[16:23]	TR Bot	 Downloading Debian CD/DVD images via HTTP/FTP
[16:23]	bnchs__	when i installed openBSD
[16:23]	bnchs__	it wanted to install intel-firmware at bootup
[16:23]	bnchs__	and i couldn't skip it
[16:24]	schestowitz	I got 9 screens now
[16:24]	bnchs__	fuck that shit
[16:24]	matey	bnchs__ thats because their policy on firmware is different
[16:24]	matey	they dont have a no-non-free-firmware policy
[16:24]	bnchs__	i was running it on a emulator btw
[16:24]	matey	because it doesnt run on the computer
[16:24]	bnchs__	so even if it installed
[16:24]	bnchs__	it wouldn't work
[16:24]	schestowitz	lmde 5 is almost 2gb iso
[16:24]	matey	note i think hyperbolas policy is better
[16:24]	bnchs__	and ofc there was no skipping
[16:24]	schestowitz	debian 11 mini.iso is like 48mb
[16:25]	XRevan86	Was my message seen? Probably not.
[16:25]	matey	bnchs__ this is why hyperbola has the right idea
[16:25]	matey	<XRevan86> schestowitz: https://debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#firmwar
[16:25]	matey	sorry, <XRevan86> schestowitz: https://debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#firmware
[16:26]	bnchs__	or any operating system that lets you optionally install the firmwar
[16:26]	bnchs__	OPIONALLY
[16:26]	XRevan86	firmware-11.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso is a thing.
[16:26]	matey	this is still regressive for debian
[16:26]	matey	and devuan did it first
[16:27]	matey	in fact centurian_dan said he would abandon work on the installer if it didnt include non-free drivers
[16:27]	XRevan86	Debian had this before systemd even existed.
[16:28]	matey	<XRevan86> Debian had this before systemd even existed <- they had non-free drivers in the kernel until 6.0
[16:28]	XRevan86	I mean the separate ISO with firmware included.
[16:28]	bnchs__	matey: who?
[16:28]	matey	right
[16:29]	matey	bnchs__: what?
[16:29]	bnchs__	whos this centurian dan guy
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[16:29]	matey	centurian_dan was in charge of the devuan installer
[16:29]	matey	fsmithred took over live (from nobody, there was no live)
[16:29]	matey	imo fsmithreds installer was better than the default one
[16:30]	bnchs__	oh
[16:30]	matey	but the default one probably covered more options-- unconventional installs
[16:30]	matey	or automated, or headless, etc
[16:30]	matey	so devuan was non-free from day one, compared to debian
[16:31]	matey	im glad i didnt give them more money
[16:32]	matey	devuan made huge mistakes with its community
[16:32]	matey	letting it get run by a nutjob
[16:32]	matey	eric s raymond went there, had one conversation with her, and left in disgust
[16:32]	matey	granted hes a dick
[16:33]	matey	but some people are worse
[16:33]	matey	the reason devuan sucks is roio was never hands on enough
[16:33]	matey	whenever he does his own work its good
[16:33]	matey	when he leads something, he does it long-distance
[16:34]	matey	and things go to hell
[16:34]	matey	now he too uses github
[16:34]	matey	moved a bunch of dyne stuff there
[16:34]	matey	such a disappointment
[16:34]	bnchs__	so devuan is basically non-systemd and non-free version of debian
[16:34]	bnchs__	right?
[16:34]	matey	thats what they claim
[16:34]	matey	its like that, except lots of hype and fuckery
[16:35]	matey	the fuckery is community level
[16:35]	matey	technically speaking my only gripe is it doesnt work-- which means they fail at their mission
[16:35]	matey	i wouldnt rely on devuan for anything
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[16:35]	matey	if you want devuan, use a derivative
[16:35]	matey	thats been my advice for years
[16:35]	matey	the best ever version of devuan came out in 2015
[16:35]	matey	it just worked
[16:36]	matey	who knows if its their fault or debians, either way theyve failed imo
[16:36]	matey	i was very impressed with gnuinos, but i used the 32bit version and i think it went 64 bit only or was simply abandoned
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[16:37]	matey	gnuinos was a fully-free version of devuan
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[16:37]	matey	if roy was looking for a fully-free devuan he should have started there
[16:37]	matey	maybe 6 years ago.
[16:37]	matey	or, he could have used refracta, which moved the non-free drivers to the desktop where they were easy to delete
[16:38]	bnchs__	matey: wait what
[16:38]	bnchs__	move the non-free drivers to the desktop
[16:38]	bnchs__	thats genius
[16:38]	matey	or, he could have used a derivative which removed those non-free drivers from the desktop (which is what mine did)
[16:39]	matey	i also made a version of trisquel 8.5 that didnt have systemd as init
[16:39]	matey	but that wouldnt work now, as upstart isnt in the repos anymore
[16:39]	matey	so trisquel is pretty fucked imo
[16:40]	bnchs__	hmmm
[16:40]	matey	the only fsf distro really addressing the problems of the past 7 years is hyperbola
[16:40]	matey	theyre hardcore
[16:40]	bnchs__	best way is artix without non-free
[16:40]	bnchs__	= hyperbola or parabola
[16:41]	matey	if i had a million dollars to give to either gnu or hyperbola, theres no question which i would choose
[16:41]	matey	parabola uses systemd so thats useless to me
[16:41]	matey	their blacklist is awesome-- its just missing one thing
[16:41]	bnchs__	matey: there's either systemd or openrc
[16:41]	bnchs__	it's not "uses"
[16:41]	matey	oh well if they provide a choice thats nice
[16:41]	bnchs__	and besides both of them are supported
[16:41]	bnchs__	with a "nonsystemd" repo
[16:42]	matey	i suppose then, if i wanted to make another trisquel-without-systemd demo
[16:42]	matey	i could use parabola
[16:42]	matey	but i really hate rolling release distros too
[16:43]	matey	i mean i always tell myself "it wont be that bad" then later "its that bad, its that bad"
[16:43]	matey	for me at least
[16:43]	matey	parabola uses pacman, right?
[16:43]	matey	or is there an option there, too
[16:44]	bnchs__	iirc parabola developer team has also maintained some program that aims to replace some of systemd's non-init crap
[16:44]	bnchs__	matey: it uses pacman
[16:44]	matey	thats noble of them
[16:44]	matey	ive pretty much given up on linux
[16:44]	matey	but ive toyed with the idea of making a gnu linux distro specifically to advertise openbsd
[16:44]	matey	luckily im always too busy
[16:45]	TR News	"Videos of Klaus Schwab bragging that Young Leaders have been positioned across the governments of Canada, Argentina, Europe and beyond are now being posted across social media platforms on a daily basis" https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/03/investigative-reports/the-rhodes-scholars-guiding-bidens-presidency/
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[16:45]	TR Bot	 The Rhodes Scholars Guiding Biden's Presidency
[16:45]	matey	and hyperbola is probably better
[16:45]	matey	though i honestly never know if theyre a dead project or not
[16:45]	matey	theyre the only project in the entire fsf ecosystem i give a shit about
[16:46]	matey	hyperbola is like the underappreciated girlfriend the fsf doesnt even deserve
[16:47]	matey	they do pretty much everything the fsf would be doing if they still did their fucking job
[16:47]	matey	and they get nothing
[16:49]	bnchs__	i think they still have hope
[16:49]	matey	hyperbola or the fsf?
[16:49]	bnchs__	both
[16:49]	matey	the fsf lacks either integrity or awareness
[16:49]	matey	its had years to regain either
[16:50]	matey	put another way, its had 20% of its entire existence to retain either
[16:50]	matey	who are we kidding
[16:50]	matey	35 years, defunct for 7
[16:50]	bnchs__	fsf performed better when it was rms being the president
[16:50]	matey	yes and no
[16:51]	matey	it hasnt improved 1% without him
[16:51]	matey	thats for sure
[16:51]	matey	but it floundered for years even with him
[16:51]	matey	imo he checked out in 2011
[16:51]	matey	but not entirely-- after that he had less power
[16:51]	matey	he would say something, some people would do it
[16:51]	matey	others would ignore it
[16:52]	matey	this is within the gnu project
[16:52]	matey	i dont care about the fsf
[16:52]	matey	but the gnu project should stand for something
[16:52]	TR News	How [computers] can help reverse-engineer malware: Predicting function names of code https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/26/machine_learning_malware/
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[16:52]	TR Bot	 How AI can help analyze malware: Function name prediction The Register
[16:52]	matey	otherwise what is it even for
[16:53]	matey	and rms, the chief gnuisance
[16:53]	matey	laid out very specific things for gnu
[16:53]	matey	which went unheeded
[16:53]	matey	the developers dont care.
[16:53]	bnchs__	matey: yeah i know
[16:53]	bnchs__	like the hurd kernel
[16:54]	bnchs__	which does work
[16:54]	bnchs__	but doesn't have enough support
[16:54]	bnchs__	to be a working OS
[16:54]	TR News	Valve actually announced Steam for Chrome OS now too | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/valve-actually-announced-steam-for-chrome-os-now-too Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
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[16:54]	TR Bot	actually announced Steam for Chrome OS now too | GamingOnLinux
[16:54]	bnchs__	a production OS*
[16:54]	matey	they should have done what apple did and taken a nice free microkernel
[16:55]	matey	sorry, monolithic kernel
[16:55]	matey	and used that, telling people why contributing to hurd was a good idea
[16:55]	matey	instead they went with linux-- under protest
[16:55]	bnchs__	the microkernel design is a good design
[16:55]	matey	and linux ran them over
[16:55]	activelow	don't confuse "microkernel" design with minimalism
[16:56]	MinceR	no one seems to have succeeded with making a real multiserver microkernel design
[16:56]	MinceR	HURD is pretty much dead
[16:56]	matey	my understanding is its mostly tied to x86, which is death
[16:56]	bnchs__	linux was destined to be bribed
[16:56]	matey	but at least one person said otherwise
[16:56]	activelow	a monolithic kernel can be tailored for minimalism too, and a microkernel system can be blown up beyond repair
[16:56]	MinceR	its authors are trying to tie it to systemd
[16:56]	matey	thats fucking dumb
[16:56]	MinceR	also, iirc processes can starve other processes of resources on Mach and they couldn't fix that
[16:57]	bnchs__	MinecR: wait what
[16:57]	MinceR	someone started writing a new microkernel and then gave up
[16:57]	bnchs__	hurd with systemd?
[16:57]	bnchs__	i thought they were using shepherd
[16:57]	activelow	question had been, how to prevent corporations to dump loads of commits into mainline, both kernel and compiler
[16:57]	matey	shepherd uses elogind from github
[16:57]	TR News	[GIT PULL] xfs: new code for 5.18 - Darrick J. Wong https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220323164821.GP8224@magnolia/ Source: magnolia
[16:57]	TR Bot	 [GIT PULL] xfs: new code for 5.18 - Darrick J. Wong
[16:57]	matey	its not really a way around systemd
[16:58]	TR News	"Linus pointed out the benefits of C99 some years ago, especially variable declarations in loops [1]. At that time, we were not ready for the migration due to old compilers." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=50560ce6a0bdab2fc37384c52aa02c7043909d2c
[16:58]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[16:58]	matey	<activelow> question had been, how to prevent corporations to dump loads of commits into mainline, both kernel and compiler <- good question
[16:58]	TR News	Games: Steam Stuff of the Day Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163017
[16:58]	TR Bot	 Games: Steam Stuff of the Day | Tux Machines
[16:58]	MinceR	bnchs__: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.html
[16:58]	TR Bot	 systemd
[16:58]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163018
[16:58]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[16:58]	matey	someone really should give mincer a fucking medal
[16:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 43.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 99.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 219.01
[16:59]	bnchs__	MinceR: wtf
[16:59]	bnchs__	the systemd virus got to them aswell
[16:59]	matey	hes the worlds best and first defence against the worst init system in the universe
[16:59]	bnchs__	no you know what
[16:59]	bnchs__	if we need to kill sysetmd
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[17:00]	bnchs__	we need to isolate GNU/Linux
[17:00]	activelow	funny, systemd made me think, an init system isn't necessary at all; my system doesn't contain any init system anymore at all
[17:00]	bnchs__	which is what microsoft wants us to do
[17:00]	activelow	pid1 = /bin/sh
[17:00]	matey	so what youre saying is, we should give microsoft the finger by using systemd?
[17:00]	matey	which is developed on github
[17:00]	bnchs__	matey: i meant
[17:00]	bnchs__	isolate GNU/Linux
[17:01]	bnchs__	systemd only exists on GNU/Linu
[17:01]	bnchs__	but doing that would be what microsoft wants us to do
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[17:01]	TR News	"A new PinePhone Modem Firmware release, updates on Nemo Mobile and GNUnet Messenger progress, Calls on the Poco F1, and a bunch of gaming centric PinePhone videos! And do try Capyloon on your Mobian-running Librem 5 or PinePhone Pro!" https://linmob.net/weekly-update-12-2022/
[17:01]	TR Bot	- Weekly Update (12/2022): GNOME 42, Phosh 0.17.0, Phoc 0.13.0, Mepo 0.4 and Capyloon on Linux Phones!
[17:01]	matey	im having trouble following, but im sure ill figure it out eventually
[17:02]	TR News	"Over the past two weeks I attended a number of sessions of the Wikidata Data Reuse Days 2022 and presented KDEs use of Wikidata in our travel apps there. Here are some of the things I found particularly interesting from a KDE perspective." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/03/26/wikidata-data-reuse-days-2022-recap.html
[17:02]	TR Bot	 Wikidata Data Reuse Days 2022 Recap
[17:02]	bnchs__	but otherwise
[17:02]	bnchs__	this doomtalk is making me bored
[17:02]	matey	what do you think we should do with systemd?
[17:02]	bnchs__	matey: remove it?
[17:02]	bnchs__	uninstall it?
[17:02]	matey	okay
[17:03]	bnchs__	not make it default?
[17:03]	matey	right
[17:03]	bnchs__	give the users a choice?
[17:03]	matey	this has been proposed and attempted
[17:03]	matey	by no one more than devuan, who have struggled year after year to manage it
[17:04]	matey	though perhaps parabola had more luck
[17:04]	matey	i consider systemd a cyberweapon
[17:04]	bnchs__	matey: you haven't talked about gentoo
[17:04]	bnchs__	or alpine
[17:04]	matey	it seems about as easy to remove as intel me
[17:04]	bnchs__	i scoured their websites/source code
[17:04]	matey	gentoo uses elogind i believe
[17:04]	bnchs__	for openrc init script replacements
[17:05]	matey	then after 7 years of removing system from gnu/linux
[17:05]	schestowitz	writing lmde5 to usb now
[17:05]	matey	the next bit of fun is removing rust from the kernel :)
[17:05]	matey	theres a theme here
[17:05]	bnchs__	matey: i think you're confused
[17:06]	bnchs__	elogind is a project to seperate logind from systemd
[17:06]	bnchs__	to make it run on non-systemd installations
[17:06]	activelow	that's how i manage gettys without an inittab of sysvinit: while true ; do /usr/bin/setsid -w /sbin/mingetty --nohostname tty2 ; sleep 1 ; done &
[17:07]	matey	elogind is a project to seperate logind from systemd <- that would be a good idea, as a hard fork
[17:07]	matey	is it a hard fork?
[17:07]	matey	(there never seem to be any hard forks anymore)
[17:07]	matey	devuan isnt a hard fork, they dont have that kind of manpower
[17:08]	matey	(they never will, with their saboteur community leadership)
[17:08]	matey	elogind should be easier to have as a hard fork than devuan 
[17:08]	matey	pale moon is a hard fork-- thats the only thing it has going for it
[17:08]	activelow	mingetty spawns /bin/login; yet i do not like pluggable authentication made by IBM/RedHat, so i am still using shadow login
[17:09]	bnchs__	 matey: well i don't know
[17:09]	matey	bnchs__ this is what i got tired of from 2015 to 2020:
[17:10]	matey	"the huns are attacking!" (no offense activelow)
[17:10]	matey	"well okay, lets move next door"
[17:10]	matey	"no, ive got a better idea, downstairs theres a flat no ones occupying, lets talk to the landlord"
[17:10]	matey	"shoudlnt we get farther away?"
[17:10]	matey	"no! theyre only attacking our flat!"
[17:10]	matey	next year: "theyre attacking the whole town!" "oh shit, what should we do?"
[17:11]	bnchs__	move next door?
[17:11]	matey	"lets move to the next town over" "no, ive got a better idea, theres a petrol station that no ones attacking, lets see if they have any space in the back"
[17:11]	matey	its like theres a competition to see who can come up with the smallest, most temporary fix
[17:11]	matey	i cant stand it
[17:12]	matey	so i left gnu/linux after more than a decade
[17:12]	matey	done
[17:12]	bnchs__	i don't get the metaphor, because here's the thing
[17:12]	matey	the kernel is fucked. salvage gnu if you can.
[17:12]	schestowitz	brave, linux mint, picks up everything on boot from usb (liveusb)
[17:12]	bnchs__	there's programs depending on the systemd hell API
[17:12]	bnchs__	how are you gonna
[17:12]	bnchs__	write it all
[17:12]	bnchs__	to not use systemd?
[17:13]	matey	 there's programs depending on the systemd hell API <- fuck them, use other programs.
[17:13]	activelow	booting kernel with init=<initscript>... this points to a simple /etc/rc, mounting stuff, launch all daemons, and finally some gettys
[17:13]	activelow	that's all
[17:13]	bnchs__	matey: well i guess that could work
[17:13]	matey	theres programs depending on winapi 
[17:13]	bnchs__	for now
[17:13]	matey	ive used wine
[17:13]	matey	but mostly...
[17:13]	bnchs__	if more programs use it (like rust)
[17:13]	bnchs__	it will get harder and harder
[17:13]	bnchs__	to the point that you're left with nothing but old programs
[17:13]	activelow	millions of lines of code removed; too removed udevd, another attack vector gone
[17:13]	matey	believe it or not, ive thought of this too
[17:14]	matey	and there is a way to fight it
[17:14]	matey	the real problem is 
[17:14]	matey	people dont want to fight. they want "peace"
[17:14]	matey	they want compromise
[17:14]	matey	they want occupation.
[17:14]	matey	so instead of walking away from the mess
[17:15]	matey	theyll do the hard work for lennart for free, making everything work around his shit
[17:15]	matey	systemd will never have to bow to anything
[17:15]	XRevan86	https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://t.me/uniannet/41719 it's known that the Russian forces use public footage to apply correction to the missile targeting.
[17:15]	TR Bot	 Telegram: Contact @uniannet
[17:15]	matey	theyll just break everything and wait for other people to clean up their mess
[17:15]	bnchs__	i do agree with you
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	wow, the installer is so simple, but I think it is just borrowed
[17:15]	matey	XRevan86:  public footage?
[17:16]	bnchs__	but i guess there is a way you can do this
[17:16]	bnchs__	fork programs and remove systemd shit?
[17:16]	matey	no, fuck programs that have systemd shit
[17:16]	matey	but forking is another option
[17:16]	XRevan86	Yet CNN et al. film the exact place where the explosion happened.
[17:17]	XRevan86	matey: Stuff shared on the Internet.
[17:17]	matey	/me wonders which installer lmde uses
[17:17]	bnchs__	matey: remember, you would usually do that if it was proprietary
[17:17]	XRevan86	"look what happened where I live"
[17:17]	bnchs__	but the point of free software
[17:17]	bnchs__	is to fork it when it goes wrong
[17:17]	matey	bnchs__>: this is my thesis: theyve brought proprietary processes to free software development
[17:17]	matey	theyve simulated non-free
[17:17]	matey	"free in license only"
[17:18]	matey	or for an acronym thats begging to be overloaded: "formerly libre, openly sleazy software"
[17:18]	bnchs__	i mean look
[17:18]	schestowitz-TR	the installer in mint advertises spotift
[17:18]	bnchs__	what so hard
[17:18]	schestowitz-TR	but the rest of mostly freesw
[17:18]	matey	oh lmde
[17:18]	bnchs__	about forking and modifying a program to not use systemd
[17:18]	matey	linux mint debian edition
[17:19]	bnchs__	schestowitz-TR: please don't install linux mint
[17:19]	matey	bnchs__ he cant hear you
[17:19]	schestowitz-TR	i might change in a bit
[17:19]	matey	/me figures lmde uses the debian installer
[17:19]	bnchs__	when i used linux mint, they were shipping very ancient versions of packages
[17:19]	schestowitz-TR	ewww
[17:19]	bnchs__	like latex2pdf
[17:19]	schestowitz-TR	slack, telegram, skype, whataapp
[17:19]	schestowitz-TR	"featured software"
[17:19]	schestowitz-TR	welcome to android/windows
[17:19]	matey	/me thnks the debian installer is actually the ubuntu graphical installer
[17:20]	bnchs__	i remember compiling about half of my programs
[17:20]	XRevan86	Another explosion in Lww 10 minutes ago.
[17:20]	matey	its possible they used calamares
[17:20]	bnchs__	in linux mint
[17:20]	bnchs__	because most of the packages in linux mint were so fucking outdated they lacked the features i needed
[17:20]	XRevan86	Maybe CNN will film that location too.
[17:20]	matey	LMDE 3 installation with Calamares | Forum - Linux Mint Forums
[17:21]	matey	calamares is a great idea-- distros dont need their own installers
[17:21]	matey	github of course
[17:21]	schestowitz-TR	stea, minecraft, sropbox, blender
[17:21]	bnchs__	lol minecraft
[17:21]	schestowitz-TR	"editor's pick"
[17:21]	matey	(MOST) distros dont need their own installers. if you really do, you make one
[17:22]	matey	"Calamares is used by Garuda Linux, Manjaro, Netrunner, KaOS, KDE neon, Lubuntu, Sabayon Linux, Chakra, EndeavourOS, Artix Linux, the Live medium of Debian..."
[17:22]	schestowitz-TR	virtualbox, wine
[17:22]	schestowitz-TR	shows picture of windows
[17:22]	bnchs__	matey: what would you say about gentoo
[17:22]	matey	im not qualified to say anything about gentoo, other than on their choices of components
[17:22]	bnchs__	they have USEFLAGS
[17:23]	bnchs__	which allow you to compile programs with or without wayland
[17:23]	bnchs__	or systemd
[17:23]	matey	thats a good idea
[17:23]	bnchs__	or any libraries
[17:23]	matey	i never indented code or used 3rd party libraries until i learned python
[17:23]	schestowitz-TR	if putin lobs a missile over here right now, it'd be shame
[17:23]	matey	because python made it so straightforward 
[17:23]	schestowitz-TR	sounds like biden and little putin are doing www3 as proxy war
[17:24]	matey	<schestowitz-TR> if putin lobs a missile over here right now, it'd be shame <- i often feel that way during installations
[17:24]	schestowitz-TR	without nukes yet
[17:24]	bnchs__	schestowitz-TR, retarded phoneusers would do the job for them
[17:24]	schestowitz-TR	matey: :D I'd not have to finish the migration
[17:24]	bnchs__	it wasn't a week ago or something that a bunch of brits helped russians locate a base
[17:24]	bnchs__	with their spying smartphones
[17:25]	schestowitz-TR	why say spying smartphone
[17:25]	matey	/me isnt sure lmde still uses calamares but it seems likely enough
[17:25]	schestowitz-TR	just say smnartphone :-)
[17:25]	schestowitz-TR	it's impled ;-)
[17:25]	bnchs__	because the phones are acting as russian spies
[17:25]	schestowitz-TR	call them what RMS did
[17:25]	matey	russian spies are the worst kind
[17:25]	schestowitz-TR	"Stalin's dream"
[17:25]	bnchs__	or spies for anyone that know how to control them
[17:25]	schestowitz-TR	but RMS might need to change the speeches now
[17:25]	schestowitz-TR	to "Putin's Dream"
[17:25]	matey	canadian spies just burn down the white house and maybe ask you for a cigarette
[17:26]	matey	russian ones will fuck you up
[17:26]	matey	mexican spies are mostly interested in scoping out job opportunities
[17:26]	matey	british spies just want to kill a couple russian spies and then do cool things with a parachute
[17:27]	matey	russian spies are the ones you have to be careful with
[17:27]	bnchs__	now they don't need to send out spies
[17:27]	bnchs__	they can just control the "smart"phones in a specific country
[17:27]	bnchs__	and filter out the normies
[17:28]	bnchs__	boom you found your bases
[17:28]	bnchs__	just send out your nukes
[17:28]	matey	all our base are belong to us
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[17:28]	TR News	"We'll also be releasing a point release of Buster as a wrap up of recent changes. Debian 10 should move from full support to LTS on July 14th - one year after the release of Debian 11." http://flosslinuxblog.blogspot.com/2022/03/debian-media-team-testing-and-releasing.html
[17:28]	TR Bot	 FLOSSLinux: Debian media team - testing and releasing Debian 11.3 - 20220326 1243UTC
[17:28]	activelow	XRevan86> Another explosion in Lww 10 minutes ago.
[17:29]	activelow	close to the polish border, in parallel to Biddler J. having arrived in warsow and spouting propaganda live on tv
[17:29]	TR News	It's a bird... no, it's ICBM https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-fedora-hatch-announcing-dates-call-for-volunteers/
[17:29]	TR Bot	 Nest with Fedora & Fedora Hatch: Announcing dates & call for volunteers Fedora Community Blog
[17:30]	bnchs__	the spy is in your pocket
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[17:30]	matey	someones invading germany?
[17:30]	bnchs__	*boom*
[17:30]	activelow	no, it is "energy boycott" agitated for now
[17:30]	TR News	Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Boot Camp https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-alternatives-apple-boot-camp/
[17:30]	TR Bot	Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Boot Camp - LinuxLinks
[17:30]	matey	thats one hell of a "boycott"
[17:31]	activelow	it's a propaganda lie; western banks defaulted and couldn't pay anymore
[17:31]	activelow	since then Putin demanded to replace "compromised currencies" (USD, Euro) with Rubles accounted for in Russian Central Bank
[17:32]	matey	ah, revolution in a single country
[17:32]	matey	thats a new one
[17:34]	TR News	Asahi Linux Is Reverse-Engineering Support For Apple Silicon, Including M1 Ultra http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162909#comment-33203
[17:34]	TR Bot	 Asahi Linux: The Individual Users Stake in an Apple Silicon World | Tux Machines
[17:38]	activelow	coincidence, it is one of the most loyal "young leader" of "Atlantik Brcke" (USA foreign agent washington minion), who agitates for "energy boycott"
[17:38]	activelow	meanwhile, energy prices in USA are less than 50% of Germany's... qui bono?
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[17:39]	matey	im sure its nothing as simple as that
[17:40]	matey	i mean it might come down to that, it just wouldnt be so simple
[17:40]	activelow	few days ago Biddler begged Venezuela to provide USA with Oil... 
[17:40]	matey	germany doest a lot of deals with putler too
[17:41]	matey	obviously those deals arent good enough to keep german energy prices affordable, but i dont know if thats putlers fault
[17:41]	matey	Biddler <- biden is many bad things, i dont think hitler is one of them
[17:42]	schestowitz-TR	yeah, a weird analogy
[17:42]	matey	hes more of a mobster than a dictator
[17:42]	matey	yeah, a weird analogy <- purely reactionary to "putler" 
[17:42]	matey	"hes not hitler, YOU ARE"
[17:42]	matey	with putin there are some commonalities
[17:42]	activelow	it wasn't Russia at fault, no. it is excess taxation and trade-margins which exploded, and excess consumption; it wasn't incresing energy prices (those didn't change significantly)
[17:43]	matey	though really, putin is closer to "biddler" than biden is-- in that hes a bit like hitler in some ways
[17:43]	matey	and really a bit more like biden in others
[17:43]	matey	a mobster
[17:43]	activelow	besides, USA energy consumption is twice as much per inhabitant in comparison to Germany
[17:43]	matey	id say of the three, putin is most like stalin
[17:43]	matey	but thats no fun-- putinin?
[17:43]	matey	putlin?
[17:43]	matey	putlin works
[17:44]	matey	putlin is probably more accurate than putler, but im not complaining
[17:44]	activelow	it wasn't Putin who stationed ballistic missiles close to the borders of USA
[17:44]	matey	i thought that was cuba
[17:44]	activelow	it is USA/NATO etc. who supplied Ukraine with "lethal aid", following the strategy paper of RAND Corp.
[17:45]	matey	it is USA/NATO etc. who supplied Ukraine with "lethal aid" <- well they are being invaded
[17:45]	matey	what did putin expect them to do, just sit there and die?
[17:45]	matey	"that would be nice, yes if you dont mind"
[17:46]	activelow	Russian military secured nuclear facilities first, with light armored vehicles, which were shot at with NATO weapons
[17:46]	activelow	next escalation was heavy tanks destroyed
[17:46]	matey	how many museums does he have targeted? 
[17:46]	activelow	and currently, it seems, Russian Air Force began to take action
[17:47]	activelow	Biddler could have explained, what Westinghouse electric did, in Ukraine nuclear facilities
[17:47]	activelow	i am curious, still, what they did in Ukraine.
[17:48]	matey	/me cant help picturing the batman villian with the similar name
[17:48]	matey	of course biden could easily play that role, especially the 1966 version
[17:48]	matey	if jim carrey gets a bit older (as hes likely to) he could even play biden himself
[17:49]	matey	i think few other people could get the grin right
[17:49]	matey	edward nigma looked just like elon musk before the makeover
[17:50]	matey	bruce: thats a ridiculous idea edward, we already have subways...
[17:50]	matey	nygma: "you were supposed to understand..."
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[17:53]	MinceR	riddle me this, riddle me that...
[17:53]	MinceR	who's afraid of a big, black bat?
[17:54]	matey	i want to thank jim carrey at least, for never doing another role in a spandex leotard
[17:54]	matey	though to be fair, batman started it
[17:55]	matey	not everyone knew it was carrey until the credits rolled
[17:55]	matey	a number of people thought it was annie lennox
[17:56]	MinceR	:>
[17:56]	MinceR	strange, i thought Carrey played his usual character in that role :>
[17:56]	matey	mostly
[17:57]	MinceR	"was that over the top? i can never tell!"
[17:57]	matey	i think it got back to his in living color days in terms of creepy level
[17:57]	matey	people were used to him just being silly, "oh no, i can still be a little creepy!"
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[17:58]	matey	"LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING!"
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[17:58]	matey	his standup i think was tame by comparison. talented as fuck, but tame
[17:59]	matey	gentle
● Mar 26
[18:04]	bnchs__	does alexa exist anymore
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	next up: trying kde neon
[18:04]	matey	alexa.com
[18:04]	bnchs__	i mean alexa the company
[18:04]	bnchs__	not amazon retards
[18:04]	matey	alexa the company was bought by amazon i believe
[18:04]	bnchs__	well yeah
[18:04]	matey	it was created by brewster kahle of archive.org fame?
[18:04]	bnchs__	they're retiring in may 2022
[18:05]	matey	alexa is going offline?
[18:05]	bnchs__	but they helped crawl many websites back in 1990's
[18:05]	bnchs__	matey: i guess
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	the original thing
[18:05]	matey	wow
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	they just bought a brand
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	didn't know what to do with it
[18:05]	matey	so they made it into a creepy robot spy thing
[18:05]	bnchs__	they helped archive most of the early web
[18:06]	bnchs__	schestowitz-TR, they probably just bought out alexa to use their trademark
[18:06]	bnchs__	for their creepy robot shit
[18:06]	matey	i suppose the internet archive is better
[18:06]	matey	though some days its a bit shit
[18:06]	bnchs__	matey: what i meant is
[18:06]	bnchs__	they helped archive most of the early web
[18:06]	bnchs__	and gave it to the internet archive
[18:06]	matey	right
[18:06]	matey	which was started by the same person
[18:07]	matey	but thats cool
[18:07]	bnchs__	but even then they're going down
[18:07]	matey	the internet archive?
[18:07]	bnchs__	alexa
[18:07]	matey	maybe amazon will have the same effect on companies it buys as microsoft and ibm do
[18:08]	matey	"ill pay you to kill yourself"
[18:08]	matey	"um, how much?"
[18:08]	bnchs__	https://archive.org/details/alexacrawls
[18:08]	TR Bot	 Alexa Crawls : Free Web : Free Download, Borrow and Streaming : Internet Archive
[18:10]	bnchs__	i'm glad they thought of archiving websites back in 1996
[18:12]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/applebees-franchise-exec-spiking-gas-prices-great-for-hiring-workers-at-lower-wage/
[18:12]	TR Bot	 Applebees franchise exec: Spiking gas prices great for hiring workers at lower wage | WGN-TV
[18:13]	matey	applebees-franchise-exec-spiking-gas-prices-great-for-hiring-workers-at-lower-wage <- looks like an onion title
[18:13]	matey	i was disappointed in onion services incidentally
[18:13]	DaemonFC	This is how the rich really think.
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[18:13]	matey	i thought there was an entire satirical web
[18:13]	matey	turned out to just be some privacy thing
[18:14]	DaemonFC	Not "Oh shit, hyperinflation means people will cook at home to try to avoid some of it. Not good for Applebee's!".
[18:14]	DaemonFC	It's "Let's see how much we can cut wages! Oh frabjous day!".
[18:14]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, For some reason, Walmart lowered a bag of rice to the price it cost before.
[18:14]	matey	/me often suspects carroll made up that word
[18:15]	bnchs__	matey it already is
[18:15]	bnchs__	it's a circus
[18:15]	DaemonFC	They upped it 25% for like a month and then dropped it back down.
[18:15]	bnchs__	of scams
[18:15]	TR News	Piwigo and Raspberry PI: a Private Open Source Photo Management Platform Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163019
[18:15]	TR Bot	 Piwigo and Raspberry PI: a Private Open Source Photo Management Platform | Tux Machines
[18:15]	matey	users: theres one born every minute
[18:15]	matey	p.t. barnum and gates
[18:16]	DaemonFC	"Register your .bond domain with NameSilo for $1.99!"
[18:16]	DaemonFC	bond.james.bond
[18:16]	matey	junk,bond is just dick pics
[18:16]	TR News	Now outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software, so hardly exciting at all https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SDL-Sound-2.0
[18:16]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SDL-Sound-2.0
[18:16]	TR Bot	2.0 Released As First Update In Nearly 14 Years - Phoronix
[18:16]	matey	cheney, nixon, york
[18:17]	matey	sargent
[18:18]	bnchs__	SDL_sound
[18:18]	bnchs__	you mean SDL_mixer?
[18:18]	DaemonFC	In apparent gaffe, Biden tells US troops in Poland they will see the bravery of Ukrainians when you are there. While speaking with U.S Army 82nd Airborne Division Members at the NATO Operations Base in the Polish City of Rzeszow about Ukrainian Citizens, U.S President Biden said," You will see when you are there, People standing in front of a damn tank, saying I'm not leaving".
[18:19]	schestowitz-TR	did Biden ever fight?
[18:19]	DaemonFC	No.
[18:20]	DaemonFC	As a Senator, he was mostly a backbencher who occasionally ran for president and then bowed out so early that the primary season wasn't even really going.
[18:20]	DaemonFC	Although he managed to end up on the wrong side of history with dozens of major bills which became law.
[18:20]	matey	is the polish army going to ukraine?
[18:20]	matey	like the patriot act
[18:21]	schestowitz-TR	debian had a release minutes ago
[18:21]	schestowitz-TR	bugfixes
[18:21]	schestowitz-TR	I might try that one too
[18:21]	matey	they wontfix the two largest showstopper bugs
[18:21]	matey	systemd and gnome
[18:22]	DaemonFC	You know how much the Republicans enjoy freedom an individual liberties and rights? Not a single one of their judges has ever stopped the government from torturing someone or using the PATRIOT Act in some way that clearly violates the Constitution. Never, not once.
[18:22]	matey	remember mccain
[18:23]	bnchs__	matey: yeah well
[18:23]	bnchs__	polkit makes systemd and gnome look like child's play
[18:24]	DaemonFC	I don't really know why businesses put out political signs.
[18:24]	matey	people could just stop using operating systems with such a penchant for fuckery
[18:24]	MinceR	they want fewer clients
[18:24]	DaemonFC	Even in the most heavily Republican ares of the country, you're telling 30% or so of your potential customers "Don't go there. Don't buy things from them.".
[18:24]	bnchs__	polkit literally uses a javascript interpreter
[18:24]	matey	lol
[18:25]	bnchs__	and it's job is to GRANT ROOT ACCESS
[18:25]	DaemonFC	But they have to "Own the libs!" so badly that they're willing to get 30% less business to do so.
[18:25]	matey	to be fair, thats the job of all javascript interpreters
[18:25]	DaemonFC	There was a pizza place I used to order from in Huntington, where they had really good pizza.
[18:25]	matey	But they have to "Own the libs!" so badly that they're willing to get 30% less business to do so. <- so githubs business model really isnt so rare
[18:26]	DaemonFC	But when I saw a McCain sign out front, I never ordered there again.
[18:26]	TR News	Two Stable Release of Debian Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163020
[18:26]	TR Bot	 Two Stable Release of Debian | Tux Machines
[18:26]	matey	didnt know you hated mccain
[18:26]	bnchs__	i wanna kill the guy who thought of javascript in polkit
[18:27]	DaemonFC	Every time the Republicans run a candidate, they make their last one look great. By the time Trump was finished, I was actually feeling bad for the McCain family.
[18:27]	TR News	"Hi Linus, my first pull request in like forever, so please bear with me." https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220326152646.GT8939@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net/
[18:27]	TR Bot	 [GIT PULL] x86/core for 5.18 - Peter Zijlstra
[18:27]	DaemonFC	Trump "went there" and started attacking Gold Star families, POWs, and people who got the Purple Heart.
[18:27]	DaemonFC	What a piece of shit.
[18:28]	DaemonFC	And as soon as he did it......... ALL OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO VOTED FOR HIM....ignored it and wouldn't even respond if you asked why that was okay.
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[18:29]	TR News	Why Run Windows Apps on Linux? Here Are 15 Linux Alternatives Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163021
[18:29]	TR Bot	 Why Run Windows Apps on Linux? Here Are 15 Linux Alternatives | Tux Machines
[18:31]	DaemonFC	I didn't like John McCain the politician, but the guy actually was in the Air Force and was shot down and was a POW and got tortured. And if you're going to attack someone's politics, that's fine, those are fair game, but you don't attack someone who got shot down and tortured by the enemy and say, like Trump did, "He's a loser. I like people who didn't get captured.". Well, Trump didn't get captured or wounded in Vietnam because he's a coward 
[18:31]	DaemonFC	and a draft dodger.
[18:32]	TR News	How Businesses Can Benefit from Using Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163022
[18:32]	TR Bot	 How Businesses Can Benefit from Using Linux | Tux Machines
[18:32]	DaemonFC	A traitor (Russian meatpupped).....
[18:32]	DaemonFC	Adulterer.... Serial bankrupt.... Lots of stuff really.
[18:33]	DaemonFC	The bankruptcy code is full of truck sized holes, for the rich to abuse, and he was boasting about abusing them as a business strategy.
[18:34]	DaemonFC	They "reformed" personal bankruptcy to turn it into a welfare program with a means test, and you have to sit through hours of garbage where they blame you for going broke, with reasons that 90% of people don't even file for primarily.
[18:35]	DaemonFC	But Trump did is 6 times just because he didn't want to pay his bills.
[18:35]	DaemonFC	*it
[18:35]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, They actually enforce you sitting through this for 3 hours with a javascript timer.
[18:36]	DaemonFC	You can bring up the console and put in a javascript command that increments the counter to the number of seconds in three hours and then print out your certificate and send it to the bankruptcy court.
[18:36]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[18:36]	MinceR	:)
[18:37]	TR News	Top Three Arduino Cloud Games Projects Revealed | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/26/top-three-arduino-cloud-games-projects-revealed/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
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[18:37]	DaemonFC	If you don't know how to do that, then you can also use a program that moves your mouse cursor around so the idle timer doesn't time out and throw you off the page.
[18:37]	TR Bot	 Top Three Arduino Cloud Games Projects Revealed | Arduino Blog
[18:39]	TR News	New Toy: Hello Precursor!
[18:39]	DaemonFC	Work from home people use programs that bump the mouse cursor.
[18:39]	TR News	"Those of you with a Spock-like mind will not be surprised to hear that a new toy has made it to my desk: the Precursor by the most respected Andrew "bunnie" Huang and his gang." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220326-precursor.gmi
[18:39]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163023
[18:39]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[18:39]	DaemonFC	Some of them have a program from their employer running that detects if they're "away from the computer too often".
[18:40]	TR News	"Someone has responded to my message, that I would give away my trusty openmoko neo --- I have changed technology for the last duty it had until recently. And I am happy that someone else is interested to keep it for a little longer." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220326-bye-openmoko.gmi
[18:40]	DaemonFC	This is why they need to go back to the office. Managers don't actually know how much productivity an employee should be producing, so they use tactics like "Is employee in the cubical poking around on a computer?".
[18:41]	DaemonFC	If you get your assigned tasks done at home, they worry that you might be "goofing off" still.
[18:41]	TR News	Projects for the benefit of others gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-03-26%20Projects%20for%20the%20benefit%20of%20others
[18:41]	DaemonFC	Being at your computer proves you're not "goofing off", even if the same amount of work gets done.
[18:41]	DaemonFC	And this way, they can also lose a ton of company money on managers, coffee machines, furniture, and rent.
[18:41]	DaemonFC	And hiring a cleaning company to come in.
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[18:42]	DaemonFC	It's the ancient art of "looking like you're doing something".
[18:43]	TR News	Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Boot Camp Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163024
[18:43]	TR Bot	 Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Boot Camp | Tux Machines
[18:43]	DaemonFC	It's basically up there with sage and chicken sacrifice. A Voodoo ritual to keep the Bill Lumberghs away from you.
[18:43]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, ^
[18:43]	bnchs__	DaemonFC: what about the programs they're using
[18:44]	DaemonFC	Some are so primative that if the mouse is moving, it assumes the employee is doing something.
[18:44]	DaemonFC	A lot of Mandy's co-workers get fired for time clock theft.
[18:45]	DaemonFC	The people who get fired for it are the ones who do it so poorly that even a manager can figure it out.
[18:45]	DaemonFC	If you run out of things to do, you look like you're doing stuff.
[18:45]	DaemonFC	Like, when I worked there and didn't want to lose hours because I was finished early, sometimes I'd pretend to fill out inventory tags.
[18:46]	bnchs__	lol
[18:46]	DaemonFC	The manager didn't know that I wasn't busy so he just waved and walked off and told me that I was doing a terrific job keeping my department stocked and running efficiently.
[18:46]	bnchs__	just have a autoclicker
[18:46]	bnchs__	and a mouse jiggler
[18:46]	bnchs__	boom fuck your boss
[18:47]	DaemonFC	They tried to cut my hours once and I told the co-manager "Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen.".
[18:47]	DaemonFC	And she smiled and said, "Oh why not?".
[18:48]	TR News	Wind River Studio Addresses Challenges of Managing Secure Linux-Based Intelligent Systems https://www.windriver.com/news/press/news-20220316
[18:48]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: windriver.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windriver.com/news/press/news-20220316
[18:48]	TR Bot	 Wind River Studio Addresses Challenges of Managing Secure Linux-Based Intelligent Systems | Wind River
[18:48]	DaemonFC	I took a sip of my coffee and said, "Because with all the time off, I can certainly make it down to the WorkOne office and tell them you busted me down to part time under protest and that I would work more hours if I could, and you can pay me for 8 hours a week of doing nothing for 6 months.".
[18:48]	DaemonFC	"Or you could assign me that part time job code for the other department and bring me back up to 40 hours."
[18:49]	DaemonFC	The system allows you to have a full time employee who has two part-time job codes.
[18:49]	DaemonFC	They just don't like anyone to know that.
[18:50]	DaemonFC	Someone in the Home Office kept leaking documents too.
[18:50]	DaemonFC	Two weeks before they announced a new pay structure, I had told a bunch of other employees about it.
[18:51]	DaemonFC	Then when the managers told me to knock it off because nobody had informed them, I stopped. Then two weeks later, it came in their email box, and they asked how I knew what was happening before the store manager and Human Resources.
[18:53]	DaemonFC	I know all about how Walmart works, including things that they don't tell most of their managers.
[18:53]	DaemonFC	Well, at least how it worked when I left in 2006.
[18:53]	TR News	Parrot 5.0 Released with Cloud and Customizability in Mind http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162983
[18:53]	TR Bot	 Parrot 5.0 Security OS Released with Linux Kernel 5.16, New Hacking Tools, and LTS Support | Tux Machines
[18:53]	DaemonFC	Things have changed, and not all for the better.
[18:54]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163025
[18:54]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:54]	DaemonFC	They brought in a bunch of management from Mexico to run operations in the US, and about all they did was create a big mess of bloat and inefficiency that has caused prices to go way up.
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[19:06]	activelow	the pictures from Ukraine, remind me, of my childhood: the children wear colorful self-made knitted caps often
[19:06]	activelow	which was common in soviet regions, mothers and grandmothers knitted those caps for their children, every child had one
[19:07]	activelow	my mother too knitted such a cap for me, and a pullover with an elephant
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[19:16]	TR News	New arrival today due to a dying SSD. Tried 3 distros today (in this order): Devuan, Debian, LMDE, and KDE Neon. The last one seems like the winner. Congrats to the team!
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[19:25]	immibis	DaemonFC: yes, stockpiling food is not a terrible idea. However, try to build it up gradually, so as not to cause shortages like we saw with toilet paper. Remember that your freezer might not have electricity.
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[19:32]	DaemonFC	They're rationing chicken at supermarkets in Australia, even in-person shopping trips.
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[19:33]	DaemonFC	I already have enough chicken for the rest of the year.
[19:33]	DaemonFC	I can tell you part of the problem.
[19:34]	DaemonFC	Red meat is up like WHOA.
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[19:34]	DaemonFC	And so people shifted to chicken quickly and it caught them off guard.
[19:34]	DaemonFC	And around the same time, California laws about cage free eggs and shit kicked in.
[19:34]	DaemonFC	Worst possible time.
[19:35]	DaemonFC	Some parts of the US are having egg shortages now.
[19:35]	DaemonFC	There were some at Walmart today, but they raised the price another 47 cents on 60.
[19:35]	DaemonFC	This month alone!
[19:36]	DaemonFC	If canned food isn't bloated, leaking, visibly compromised, huge dent, rust, etc...then it should be safe indefinitely.
[19:36]	DaemonFC	The date on the can is a quality assurance date.
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[19:36]	DaemonFC	Like "This corn will taste about the same as when it was packed for at least 3 years.".
[19:37]	DaemonFC	But you could open up a can of corn 3-4 years after that and as long as it was stored properly and the can is fine, it's safe.
[19:37]	DaemonFC	It just might not taste quite as good.
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[19:39]	activelow	DaemonFC: what's the price for 10 eggs in USA? In Germany organic/bio eggs cost ~2.79Euros for 10eggs.
[19:39]	activelow	caged chicken eggs are ~50% the price of the freedom chicken ones.
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[19:40]	MinceR	freedom chickens to go with your freedom fries?
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[19:41]	DaemonFC	They don't come in packs of 10, they come 6, 12, 18, 36, 48, and 60 at the store.
[19:41]	DaemonFC	If you buy them 60 at a time, then 1/6th of 60 at $7.45 currently = $1.24
[19:42]	activelow	extremely cheap
[19:42]	activelow	in EU "dumping prices" to sell products below production costs are forbidden
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[19:43]	DaemonFC	I didn't need milk quite yet yesterday at the store, but they had a limit 1 with coupon offer on half gallon and it ended up costing me like 68 cents for a half gallon of 2%.
[19:43]	DaemonFC	Usually you pay about $3.24-$3.68 per gallon for milk, at normal price. It fluctuates.
[19:44]	DaemonFC	If you buy two pounds of butter as a twin pack of 1 pound each, it's about $3.12 per pound for butter sticks right now.
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[19:44]	DaemonFC	If you buy it a pound at a time, you'll pay about $3.24 per pound.
[19:45]	activelow	that's too very cheap; here bio/organic milk is sold for ~1.10Euro/Liter (3.8% fat), industrial milk is ~80cents/liter
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[19:45]	activelow	industrial chicken meat is ~8Euros/Kg
[19:46]	DaemonFC	Boneless skinless chicken breasts are hovering around $3.99 per pound for the store brand (which taste fine to me) and boneless skinless thighs are about $3.49 per pound, and that's if you buy it in family packs (bulk). It freezes fine, and it's cheaper to split them up even if you do use freezer bags in the end.
[19:46]	DaemonFC	If you buy it in the smaller packs, you'll pay about $4.50 per pound for breasts and about $4 for thighs.
[19:47]	DaemonFC	85/15 ground beef is running about $5.50-$6 per pound depending on where you shop, if it's not on sale.
[19:48]	DaemonFC	Non-organic bananas are about 50-57 cents per pound, depending on the store. Organic bananas are about 65-70 cents per pound.
[19:49]	DaemonFC	In 2004 I recall the prices for most things.
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[19:49]	DaemonFC	I was the one labeling the shelves!
[19:49]	DaemonFC	Bananas were 25 cents a pound back then.
[19:49]	DaemonFC	Milk was $1.84 per gallon.
[19:49]	activelow	that's dumping prices
[19:49]	DaemonFC	A basic loaf of store brand white bread that costs 89 cents now was 54 cents then.
[19:49]	activelow	bananas are twice the price here, round about, although that's not surprising since bananas are shipped from south america to europe
[19:50]	DaemonFC	Boneless skinless chicken breasts were about $2 a pound, or so.
[19:50]	DaemonFC	Overall, your grocery bill will have almost doubled on average since 2004 in the United States.
[19:50]	DaemonFC	So doubled over 18 years.
[19:51]	DaemonFC	Rents have gone up by about a third in some parts of the country. Doubled or tripled in others.
[19:51]	DaemonFC	It's on fire in all of the worst places in the country you could possibly live.
[19:51]	activelow	in east-germany two currenc-reforms were necessary since 1990, which doubled the price in 15 years, round about
[19:51]	activelow	that's how i estimated the _real_ inflation data
[19:52]	DaemonFC	Like, the rent has doubled in the past 5 years in the shithole neighborhoods in Chicago where you'll be shot for your shoelaces.
[19:52]	DaemonFC	Yes, they'll never tell you the truth.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	But it's always easy to see that it's not "2 or 3%" like they were saying for about 20 years before this mess.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	They have fake inflation numbers for a lot of reasons.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	1. It keeps social program and welfare expenses down.
[19:53]	activelow	the rents exploded, in east-germany an entire flat (60square meters) could be rented for ~60East-mark; which is 15Euros... 
[19:54]	DaemonFC	2. They use a different measure of inflation that nobody will notice to justify raising your tax brackets.
[19:54]	activelow	nowadays, with those 15Euros in many places you couldn't rent a single square meter anymore...
[19:54]	DaemonFC	3. If people knew it was at least double what the government admits, they'd riot. They'd pull politicians out of their offices and murder them.
[19:54]	DaemonFC	There wouldn't be any of this "Hey look, it's football! Did you know Kanye West called Trevor Noah a Koon?".
[19:54]	DaemonFC	Media circus.
[19:55]	activelow	yes, normally social spendings had to compensate for inflation; yet if they cheat with the inflation data then those spendings do not increase as they should
[19:55]	DaemonFC	They didn't change the name of the Consumer Price Index.
[19:56]	DaemonFC	They just changed the weight around so that it doesn't accurately reflect what people are buying.
[19:56]	DaemonFC	Then they can weight the basket wrong so if used cars go up a bunch, they can talk about clothes at the thrift store.
[19:56]	activelow	anyway, the most conerning problem is what those politicians call "labor market" here, which I would say is slave trade, looting and robbery... by government
[19:56]	DaemonFC	They also introduced "hedonic regression" bullshit.
[19:57]	DaemonFC	Basically, it allows the standard of living to backslide by assuming people will make different choices to respond to inflation.
[19:57]	DaemonFC	Beef is up a lot? Buy chicken. Chicken goes up, but turkey doesn't? Maybe you buy that.
[19:57]	DaemonFC	Of course the model is having trouble hiding grocery prices now.
[19:57]	DaemonFC	It's all up, big time.
[19:58]	DaemonFC	All of this fuckery with inflation goes back about 40 years.
[19:58]	DaemonFC	It was Alan Greenspan.
[19:58]	activelow	it isn't the absolute prices yet which are concerning, it's the trend of annual inflation, the _real_ inflation data
[19:59]	chicksahoy	you could buy beans, they're high in protein
[19:59]	DaemonFC	Fortunately, the 1970s solution to grocery inflation still works on the same concept.
[19:59]	chicksahoy	i buy a lot of rice and beans 
[19:59]	bnchs	can you really quit meth without permanent damage?
[19:59]	DaemonFC	They had high meat inflation in the 1970s and that's when slow cookers came out as a fad appliance.
[19:59]	DaemonFC	But they're back.
[19:59]	chicksahoy	i lost 35 pounds eating nothing but oatmeal, rice and beans
● Mar 26
[20:00]	DaemonFC	If you get cheaper cuts of meat and toss them in that thing on low, it tenderizes it as a side effect of cooking it that way.
[20:00]	activelow	chicksahoy: where are you living?
[20:00]	chicksahoy	i gained it all back by adding chicken burgers, pizza and pop
[20:00]	chicksahoy	activelow: canada
[20:01]	DaemonFC	Those butterball turkey burgers aren't bad.
[20:01]	bnchs	rly
[20:01]	DaemonFC	Of course I haven't bought any in a while.
[20:01]	bnchs	you gained it all back just from how many days of "chicken burgers, pizza and pop"
[20:01]	DaemonFC	Somehow, Jewel put out "85/15 pub burgers" for $6 for 2 pounds yesterday.
[20:01]	chicksahoy	bnchs: it took a couple months
[20:01]	DaemonFC	So I bought a bunch and froze it, because it was cheaper than buying it as ground beef!
[20:01]	chicksahoy	plus my anti psychotic medication slows down my metabolism
[20:01]	bnchs	i don't know
[20:02]	bnchs	i could be eating that for a couple years
[20:02]	DaemonFC	And if I need to make a ground beef recipe, I could just break up the burgers and brown them like any other ground beef. :/
[20:02]	bnchs	and i wouldn't gain even a pound
[20:02]	chicksahoy	im trying to get thin again for bikini weather
[20:02]	chicksahoy	so for the next few months im just going to be eating rice, beans and oatmeal again
[20:03]	DaemonFC	schestowitz was shocked I started blood pressure meds this week.
[20:03]	DaemonFC	I made it longer without them than anyone in my family has.
[20:03]	chicksahoy	im on welfare so i cant afford a lot of food, i just get oatmeal and rice in bulk
[20:03]	DaemonFC	Most of us are on them by 30.
[20:03]	DaemonFC	I made it another 8 years.
[20:04]	chicksahoy	im so poor i'd actually consider doing tech support for a windows based business
[20:04]	DaemonFC	It's better to keep it under control even if it does mean pills, than letting it damage your arteries, heart, kidneys, and eyes.
[20:04]	DaemonFC	My mom's blood pressure is so bad that sometimes they can barely control it even on the highest dose of medication they can give her.
[20:05]	chicksahoy	hell i am even applying for retail technician jobs
[20:05]	DaemonFC	Of course, what kind of treatment you get depends on the doctor.
[20:05]	DaemonFC	Like all people, they get stuck on something and never come off it even when better drugs are on the market.
[20:06]	DaemonFC	So they had her on an older variant of the pills I'm on, which had a much worse side effect profile, even though the patent expired on the one I take in 2017 and they both cost roughly the same now.
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[20:07]	TR News	Got synergy and barriers configured to navigate 10 screens all at one, across 6 machines...
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[20:07]	bnchs	DaemonFC: well i don't care if you do blood pressure meds
[20:07]	bnchs	but insulin meds?
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[20:08]	DaemonFC	Thankfully, diabetes is uncommon in my family until old age.
[20:08]	chicksahoy	DaemonFC: my testosterone blockers also lower blood pressure but im not on them anymore because i dont have nuts anymore
[20:08]	DaemonFC	Yeah, well I'm not going to take those.
[20:08]	DaemonFC	And if anyone tries to take my nuts off, they get shot.
[20:09]	chicksahoy	i had a vaginaplasty
[20:09]	chicksahoy	im sure you dont need to follow my path
[20:09]	DaemonFC	I'm happy you're happy.
[20:09]	bnchs	DaemonFC: "take my nuts off"
[20:09]	chicksahoy	:)
[20:09]	bnchs	egghhhhh
[20:09]	bnchs	just imagining that gives me pain in the balls
[20:09]	DaemonFC	I know.
[20:09]	DaemonFC	EUNUCHS jokes.
[20:10]	chicksahoy	when i had my surgery there was a transgender man who got balls and a penis
[20:10]	chicksahoy	the balls were a pump, you squeeze them to make the penis hard
[20:10]	bnchs	chicksahoy, FtM or MtF
[20:10]	chicksahoy	FtM
[20:10]	bnchs	"the balls were a pump"
[20:10]	chicksahoy	yeah it was unreal
[20:11]	bnchs	in the real implementation of a man body, squeezing your balls would only give you extreme pain
[20:11]	chicksahoy	yes i know
[20:11]	chicksahoy	i feel pain just thinking about it
[20:12]	chicksahoy	they take skin off your arm to make the penis
[20:12]	chicksahoy	its like an 8 hour surgery
[20:12]	chicksahoy	FtM's have it the worst
[20:12]	bnchs	i wonder how do they pee
[20:13]	chicksahoy	probably through the penis
[20:13]	bnchs	wait how does that work
[20:13]	chicksahoy	surgery is amazingly realistic
[20:14]	DaemonFC	There's nothing natural about this.
[20:14]	bnchs	yeah
[20:14]	chicksahoy	i had to learn how to pee with a neovagina
[20:14]	bnchs	there's nothing natural about transgender surgeries at all
[20:14]	chicksahoy	at first it sprayed all over the place because of inflamation
[20:14]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ says I "misgender" people who have to go through hours and hours of plastic surgery.
[20:15]	DaemonFC	Plastic surgeons are okay if you were in a car accident or got set on fire or something.
[20:15]	bnchs	sometimes i do what they say "manspreading" when i'm sitting so i don't touch my balls at all
[20:15]	DaemonFC	But it's mostly transexuals and vain women who use them the most.
[20:15]	DaemonFC	<bnchs> sometimes i do what they say "manspreading" when i'm sitting so i don't touch my balls at all
[20:15]	chicksahoy	DaemonFC: i've seen you say "man in a dress"
[20:15]	DaemonFC	When people in Chicago started bitching about manspreading on the public transit, I started doing it deliberately.
[20:15]	chicksahoy	lol
[20:16]	chicksahoy	i still manspread sometimes out of  habit
[20:16]	chicksahoy	i guess i can call it vaginaspreading
[20:16]	DaemonFC	"There you go boys, have some more real estate. Cool yourselves off. Have a drink."
[20:16]	MinceR	"manspreading" is an instinct to ensure lower temperature for the testes, which is necessary for their function
[20:16]	MinceR	but it's not like a crybully would understand that
[20:16]	DaemonFC	It's not my fault they try to cram you into less space than you get in a Geo Metro.
[20:17]	DaemonFC	Then they complain that one of your legs is out in the aisle.
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[20:17]	chicksahoy	there isn't a lot of room on public transit to manspread
[20:17]	DaemonFC	Clearly designed by women politicians, and the only thing worse than women politicians.
[20:17]	DaemonFC	Male politicians trying to get votes from women.
[20:18]	DaemonFC	They've sold out their entire gender to get votes.
[20:18]	DaemonFC	That makes them the worst!
[20:18]	bnchs	MinceR: it's mostly woman who say "manspreading is bad"
[20:18]	MinceR	female crybullies
[20:18]	DaemonFC	You know why the male suicide rate in most countries is 4-6 times higher than women!?
[20:18]	DaemonFC	Because politicians give all of the welfare to women.
[20:18]	chicksahoy	manspreading on the bus is impolite, there isn't alot of room
[20:18]	DaemonFC	So if they fail, there's less consequences.
[20:18]	bnchs	they don't understand we can't be crushing up our balls
[20:18]	MinceR	also, public transport tends to suck
[20:19]	chicksahoy	if the seats were spread out more i'd say go for it
[20:19]	MinceR	and if you communte by car, then they say you're satan
[20:19]	DaemonFC	They can get on the programs and then if you're a man and go in there they at least humiliate you and maybe deny you too.
[20:19]	DaemonFC	Like, "What are you doing in here? You're a man! Get a job!".
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[20:19]	MinceR	and this is compounded by the desire to have humans reproduce as quickly as possible
[20:19]	DaemonFC	"Oh hello Mrs. Brown, back again? EIGHT children and no man in the house this time? BRILLIANT! Here's another $500 a month!"
[20:20]	DaemonFC	Errr, "Ms." Brown rather.
[20:20]	DaemonFC	But like, you know, traditionally 80-90% of the people on welfare have been women.
[20:20]	bnchs	it's mostly woman who don't understand why men do it in the first place
[20:20]	DaemonFC	Because the system gravitates towards seeing them as the ones that need help.
[20:20]	DaemonFC	Nobody tells them "Get a job, loser!" and drums them out of the welfare office.
[20:21]	DaemonFC	So they get the safety net and men get the boot.
[20:21]	bnchs	they rather yell to men about manspreading rather than looking at the root of problem
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[20:21]	DaemonFC	I take deliberately manspreading as a small way of openly displaying my contempt of feminists.
[20:21]	DaemonFC	You do what you can.
[20:22]	DaemonFC	And it's not just manspreading, oh no, it's deliberately straining my thighs to see how much more egregious this shit can be.
[20:22]	activelow	bnchs: what is it, the root of the problem?
[20:22]	bnchs	it's just feminists running out of shit to complain about in blue bird asylum
[20:22]	DaemonFC	You're not doing it right unless at least two women can't sit next to you.
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[20:22]	bnchs	activelow: we have the BALLZ
[20:23]	bnchs	and also small seats
[20:23]	chicksahoy	DaemonFC: i'd rather let women sit next to me
[20:23]	bnchs	and crowded places
[20:23]	DaemonFC	MinceR, When humans wreck the planet, the tragedy won't be that humans die.
[20:23]	MinceR	indeed
[20:23]	chicksahoy	im a lesbian so 
[20:23]	DaemonFC	It will be that we take out tons of other things that MIGHT have evolved into intelligent life.
[20:24]	DaemonFC	It's possible that something less stupid and violent could have evolved had humans never existed.
[20:24]	bnchs	humans are affected by the 7 sins
[20:24]	chicksahoy	reptilians
[20:25]	DaemonFC	*WHACK WHACK WHACK* BISCH I SAYS GIMME MAH CHIGGUN *WHACK WHACK* AND DONCHOO TELL ME TO WEAR A MASK BISCH!!!! *WHACK WHACK* (with the COVID plexiglass) -black woman at McDonalds
[20:25]	bnchs	"The seven deadly sins were first compiled by Pope Gregory I around the year 600. They are pride, greed, lust, wrath, gluttony, envy, and sloth."
[20:25]	chicksahoy	racist comment detected
[20:25]	bnchs	and yet still accurate and up to date
[20:25]	DaemonFC	I don't want to live on this planet anymore..... -Me, eating a cheeseburger
[20:26]	bnchs	chicksahoy: it's just chicago daemon
[20:26]	bnchs	or rather the new version of the term, demon
[20:27]	chicksahoy	shouldn't he be called DaemonKKK
[20:27]	bnchs	that is really up to him
[20:27]	DaemonFC	I can see why they lock the doors and tell you to order on an app. After that, I really can.
[20:28]	bnchs	DaemonFC: jesus christ, the APP
[20:28]	bnchs	i would have rather used brandon miller the malware dev's domino pizza library than that
[20:28]	DaemonFC	It saves them a lot of operating expenses.
[20:28]	bnchs	maybe you can make a mcdonalds library
[20:28]	DaemonFC	The local McDonalds will serve you at the drive thru if you walk up.
[20:28]	MinceR	26 212812 < bnchs> DaemonFC: jesus christ, the APP
[20:29]	MinceR	finally you can install jesus christ on your phone
[20:29]	chicksahoy	LOL
[20:29]	DaemonFC	Not just Jesus Christ....Jesus Christ, the app.
[20:29]	bnchs	MinceR: it's just a chat
[20:29]	DaemonFC	Now on the App Store and Google Play.
[20:29]	bnchs	between you and jesus christ
[20:29]	DaemonFC	Problems with Jesus Christ? 47 trackers detected. -Tracker Control
[20:29]	MinceR	:)
[20:29]	chicksahoy	its 2022, even Jesus Christ is grabbing deviceIDs
[20:30]	bnchs	he doesn't need to be grabbing deviceIDs
[20:30]	bnchs	because he knows who's talking with him
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	just recoded something about the setup
[20:30]	chicksahoy	yeah but Jesus could sell those deviceIDs tax free
[20:30]	schestowitz-TR	*recorded
[20:30]	bnchs	chicksahoy: i don't know about that, that violates one of the deadly sins
[20:31]	chicksahoy	if Jesus died for everyones sins then logically it would include his own too
[20:32]	bnchs	here's the thing
[20:32]	DaemonFC	Jewel Osco (grocery store) app - Adobe Experience Cloud, AppDynamics, AppsFlyer, Apptentive, Google AdMob, Google Cloud Audit Logs, Google Firebase Analytics, Google Play Installer Referrer, Omniture
[20:32]	bnchs	jesus lived his life sinless
[20:32]	bnchs	and to do that
[20:32]	bnchs	he had to know all of the sins when he was a newborn
[20:33]	bnchs	maybe it's the equalivant of an admin playing as a undercover regular guy
[20:33]	bnchs	in his own server
[20:34]	chicksahoy	thats probably literally true
[20:34]	chicksahoy	if we live in a simulation, jesus/god/etc could just be a GM
[20:36]	bnchs	if thats the case, he may have either abandoned and forgot about the simulation (least possible), or still maybe playing undercover as one of many people
[20:37]	DaemonFC	<bnchs> maybe it's the equalivant of an admin playing as a undercover regular guy
[20:37]	DaemonFC	Undercover Boss, wow!
[20:37]	DaemonFC	I always wondered where they got that from.
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[20:41]	bnchs	he could be you
[20:41]	bnchs	he could be me
[20:41]	bnchs	he could even be anyone
[20:42]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/judge-sentences-2-jehovahs-witnesses-elders-to-court-supervision-community-service-for-failing-to-report-sexual-assault/
[20:42]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/judge-sentences-2-jehovahs-witnesses-elders-to-court-supervision-community-service-for-failing-to-report-sexual-assault/
[20:42]	TR Bot	 Judge sentences 2 Jehovah's Witnesses elders to court supervision, community service for failing to report sexual assault
[20:42]	DaemonFC	I said:
[20:42]	DaemonFC	"That's how religion works. When the Catholics molest little boys, the church does nothing, says nothing, won't cooperate with the police, moves the priest to Brazil in the middle of the night, and then cuts mom's pension and hours to fund hush money.
[20:42]	DaemonFC	Why should the other ridiculous religions do better than that? They're all a form of organized crime."
[20:42]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[20:43]	MinceR	yup
[20:43]	DaemonFC	The Chicago Mafia is alive and well. It's the Archdiocese of Chicago.
[20:43]	bnchs	DaemonFC, i always thought catholic priests molesting kids was a meme
[20:43]	DaemonFC	Most major cities have one.
[20:43]	bnchs	it's probably just a few bad apples
[20:43]	bnchs	and there's most likely some good priests out there
[20:43]	MinceR	riiiight
[20:44]	MinceR	and there's nothing wrong with using diplomatic connections to keep them from being punished
[20:44]	bnchs	that's the optimistic view
[20:44]	DaemonFC	The entire organization is corrupt, not all of which is perverted sex crimes.
[20:44]	DaemonFC	That's the tip of the iceberg.
[20:44]	bnchs	MinceR, i'm not saying that
[20:44]	MinceR	and with moving them to a new place where they aren't known, so they can start fucking kids all over again
[20:44]	bnchs	is that a strawman?
[20:44]	DaemonFC	MinceR, This time in a third world country where they don't have to pay as much out to the victims.
[20:44]	MinceR	no
[20:45]	MinceR	that's exactly what the International Pedophile Party does with their pedophile members
[20:45]	bnchs	yeah
[20:45]	bnchs	because there's most likely some good priests out there
[20:45]	DaemonFC	And if that fails, they can always move them to a place where they're secluded and make the parishioners who donate to the church pay for their "retirement".
[20:45]	MinceR	and presumably there's nothing hypocritical in them going ahead and telling the rest of us what behavior is moral and what isn't
[20:45]	MinceR	i doubt there are good priests out there
[20:46]	DaemonFC	Priest who fucks 6 year olds: "You're going to hell for being married to another man!"
[20:46]	MinceR	it's an obviously evil religion and their task is to manipulate people in the name of the cult
[20:46]	bnchs	MinceR, really?
[20:46]	MinceR	yes, really
[20:46]	DaemonFC	Also Priest who fucks 6 year olds, "You're going to hell for using condoms instead of producing children!"
[20:46]	bnchs	well are there really any good religions out there
[20:46]	MinceR	it's yet another place for sociopaths to congregate
[20:46]	MinceR	not sure
[20:46]	DaemonFC	Why could they possibly want more children? Hmmm.
[20:46]	MinceR	abrahamism is pretty horrible
[20:47]	MinceR	buddhism could be nice, but i've heard people do horrible things in its name too
[20:47]	DaemonFC	Yes, everywhere it goes, it rapes, plunders, and murders, and commits genocide even, then the colonists come and declare that traditionally it's always been a Christian country.
[20:47]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
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[20:48]	bnchs	the truth is there's many people doing horrible things in it's name
[20:48]	bnchs	in many religion's name*
[20:48]	bnchs	islam is the biggest offender
[20:48]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Stallman said that the people alive today haven't committed crimes against the Native Americans. That's not true.
[20:48]	DaemonFC	The agency that manages them is still called "Bureau of Indian Affairs".
[20:49]	DaemonFC	The federal government conspires to keep them in poverty, in the hopes that their numbers dwindle and they can one day deertify their tribes and take back their reservation land.
[20:50]	bnchs	DaemonFC: people alive today are not responible for what their ancenstors did
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[20:50]	bnchs	you end up with people gulit tripping them
[20:50]	DaemonFC	The federal government prevents them from adequately punishing lawbreakers that come onto their land. If they don't refer the crime to a federal court, the most an "Indian" court can sentence you to is a year in jail, which they have to pay for.
[20:50]	bnchs	"YOUR GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GRAND FATHER ENSLAVED THOUSANDS OF AFRICANS"
[20:50]	DaemonFC	No, I'm talking about fucked up things going on today that one law could change.
[20:51]	DaemonFC	For starters, renaming the BIA to something less offensive.
[20:51]	DaemonFC	Then reforming their reservation laws so that they have more autonomy, like a state government.
[20:52]	DaemonFC	Then looking into the "treaties" that they agreed to, regarding land that they gave up to the feds forever, which isn't even being used by anyone for anything.
[20:52]	DaemonFC	And seeing if we can work out an arrangement to give some of it back.
[20:53]	DaemonFC	None of that will ever happen.
[20:53]	DaemonFC	And that's why people living today are still guilty.
[20:53]	ciphrCat	You folks have probably seen this story but be sure to read it if you haven't. I find it somewhat mindblowing that Qatars Ministry of Education was paying $9.5 million annually over seven years for Microsoft Office and Windows licenses that they couldn't use because they didn't even have computers.  wtf   
[20:53]	DaemonFC	They still benefit from the crime and they're not taking any action to the contrary.
[20:53]	ciphrCat	https://www.lioness.co/post/microsoft-is-using-illegal-bribes-in-the-middle-east-and-africa-why-is-the-sec-turning-a-blind-eye
[20:53]	TR Bot	 Microsoft is using illegal bribes in the Middle East and Africa. Why is the SEC turning a blind eye?
[20:53]	bnchs	ciphrCat, LOL
[20:54]	bnchs	well that's a problem here in morocco
[20:54]	DaemonFC	Of course, Canada is even more fucked up than the US is.
[20:54]	bnchs	mother fucking education website encourages microsoft teams
[20:54]	DaemonFC	They were wearing a mask on top of the KKK hood for a lot of decades there.
[20:55]	DaemonFC	Then you find out they're every bit as racist and stupid and that there's a good plenty of climate deniers, and they hate immigrants, and they don't believe in vaccines, and the cops there let right-wing protests that cost the economy tens of millions of dollars go on for fucking ever.
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[20:55]	DaemonFC	And that's Canada, you know.
[20:55]	ciphrCat	yeah, there's definately some ugly shit going on between Africa & Microsoft. I was never clear on why Bill Gates had such interest in Africa but it's getting clear now
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[20:56]	DaemonFC	Then you find out about those mass graves.
[20:56]	bnchs	the moroccan ministry of education puts their documents in docx
[20:56]	ciphrCat	bnchs: i was quite disturbed when the one-laptop-per-child program failed because Africa demanded Windows OS
[20:56]	DaemonFC	From when the Canadians came in and murdered all of those indigenous people and then threw them all in a pit.
[20:56]	bnchs	and encouraged microsoft teams
[20:57]	bnchs	and even made microsoft accounts for their students
[20:57]	bnchs	without their or their parent's permission
[20:57]	ciphrCat	fuck that
[20:57]	DaemonFC	But the attitude of the average Canadian is like, chip on their shoulder.
[20:57]	DaemonFC	Like they should get away with all of this and have no sense of shame.
[20:57]	bnchs	the best way is to not log in at all
[20:58]	ciphrCat	wow.. although, a US teacher was caught doing the same thing.. he created Google accounts for students and agreed to Google's terms w/out the students knowing
[20:58]	DaemonFC	Yeah, you agree to proprietary software now for sending your children to public school.
[20:58]	DaemonFC	Along with all of the other nasty things that public schools do to them.
[20:58]	bnchs	ciphrCat, yeah thats the problem
[20:58]	bnchs	that should be tackled
[20:58]	bnchs	teachers agreeing to the terms on the behalf of the students
[20:59]	DaemonFC	For some reason a book and some paper and binders doesn't work anymore even though it always worked before.
[20:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 56.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 82.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 339.88
[20:59]	bnchs	even though they don't have authority to
[20:59]	bnchs	fuck that shit
[20:59]	DaemonFC	What happens if the student disagrees with the EULA?
[20:59]	ciphrCat	I would totally be the troublemaker student who says fuck this clause.. I don't agree but i'll be damned if my right to an education is affected
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[21:00]	bnchs	they don't let you disagree
[21:00]	bnchs	once you agree
[21:00]	bnchs	you can delete your account
[21:00]	bnchs	but after you log in to it
[21:01]	ciphrCat	it would be worth it to have a kid just to coach him on how to respond to that bullshit in order to fight the school in court to fix that shit
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[21:01]	bnchs	ciphrCat, you're gonna have to sue the entire school
[21:01]	bnchs	for that
[21:01]	bnchs	maybe even the entire ministry of education
[21:02]	bnchs	make sure they don't go scott-free
[21:05]	TR News	Upgrade PostgreSQL Database (Cluster) from one Major Version to Another https://dt.iki.fi/upgrade-postgresql
[21:05]	TR Bot	PostgreSQL Database (Cluster) from one Major Version to Another | dt.iki.fi
[21:07]	TR News	"I've got a problem. I've got multiple sets of speakers and headphones that I switch between, and I'm tired of having to constantly plug/unplug stuff into the one 3.5mm jack on the back of my computer." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MgBNF2-ojxw
[21:07]	TR Bot	 I Need More Audio Jacks On My Computer - Invidious
[21:08]	TR News	"ProtonDB is an incredible website to check the state of Linux gaming but recently it received a massive change and ruined the site but now it has been redesigned and in many ways is better than ever" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=REul3TZQVhU
[21:08]	TR Bot	 ProtonDB Has A New Linux Game Ranking System - Invidious
[21:08]	ciphrCat	the SEC is just ignoring the corruption with MS selling unusable licenses to a government in Africa.  WTF, why would the SEC ignore that?
[21:10]	TR News	DXVK 1.10.1 is out with initial support for shared resources http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163016#comment-33205
[21:10]	TR Bot	 DXVK 1.10.1 Adds Initial Support for Shared Resources, Fixes God of War and GTA: San Andreas | Tux Machines
[21:11]	schestowitz-TR	ciphrCat: it has done this for decades
[21:11]	schestowitz-TR	Microsoft even bribes the whistleblowers
[21:11]	bnchs	ok one thing i noticed in a moroccan microsoft teams tutorial
[21:11]	bnchs	never once in the sign in process
[21:11]	bnchs	is there even a terms of service or EULA
[21:11]	bnchs	agreement
[21:11]	schestowitz	exqamples in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials
[21:11]	TR Bot	 Microsoft - Financials - Techrights
[21:12]	bnchs	the worse shit is that there's no EULA or terms of service agreement during a student sign in process
[21:12]	bnchs	this could mean one thing
[21:13]	bnchs	1) the school has agreed on the EULA and terms of services on behalf of the students
[21:13]	bnchs	maybe with parent permission
[21:13]	schestowitz-TR	with Vista 10 YOU MUST create an account
[21:13]	schestowitz-TR	maybe "S"
[21:13]	schestowitz-TR	and they throw  at your their listening device
[21:14]	bnchs	you mean vista 11
[21:14]	schestowitz-TR	before you even consent to the EULA
[21:14]	schestowitz-TR	Microsoft is an intel agency
[21:14]	schestowitz-TR	privatised offshoor
[21:14]	bnchs	windows 11 forces you to have internet connection DURING the setup aswell
[21:14]	bnchs	just in case
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[21:14]	schestowitz-TR	so the US government lets these criminals do anything they want
[21:14]	bnchs	and they patched out more of the programs that allow you to remove edge
[21:15]	bnchs	or replace edge's default browser shit
[21:15]	bnchs	microsoft has even made it so that their links go to "ms-edge" protocol instead of the "https" protocol
[21:15]	bnchs	and hardcoding the protocol to go to edge
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[21:24]	DaemonFC	With 10 S you need to because you can only use the store.
[21:24]	bnchs	DaemonFC, yeah
[21:25]	schestowitz-TR	lol
[21:25]	schestowitz-TR	this is OS?
[21:25]	schestowitz-TR	for DESKTOP?
[21:25]	DaemonFC	Microsoft: "Once you turn Windows 10 S into Windows 10 Home, you cannot put the device back into S Mode."
[21:25]	DaemonFC	Bad Santa: "IS THAT A FUCKING THREAT!?"
[21:25]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR, there's some phony security "expert" called "madaidan"
[21:26]	bnchs	people shill his website because he's a self-proclaimed security researcher who worked on shit like whonix
[21:26]	DaemonFC	I'm eating this chili mac again. I don't normally have to resort to putting Tabasco on stuff I cook, but this was different.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	:/
[21:26]	bnchs	here's the things he shills
[21:26]	bnchs	1) vista 10 S
[21:26]	DaemonFC	Might make it spicier next time.
[21:27]	TR News	Now outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software, so hardly exciting at all https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=SDL-Sound-2.0
[21:27]	bnchs	2) no GNU/Linux
[21:27]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=SDL-Sound-2.0
[21:27]	TR Bot	Phoronix
[21:27]	bnchs	3) a locked-down phone
[21:27]	DaemonFC	Windows 10 DDS (Doesn't Do Shit) Mode
[21:27]	bnchs	any many other crap
[21:28]	MinceR	lol
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[21:28]	MinceR	"security"
[21:28]	bnchs	https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/security-privacy-advice.html
[21:28]	TR Bot	 Security and Privacy Advice | Madaidan's Insecurities
[21:28]	schestowitz-TR	natsec
[21:28]	bnchs	" On desktop, use a recent Windows Secured-Core PC, MacBook or Chromebook."
[21:28]	schestowitz-TR	=sut sacks
[21:28]	MinceR	that reminds me of the grsec people
[21:28]	schestowitz-TR	*nut
[21:28]	DaemonFC	Kid-tested, mjg59_ approved. Except in Nebraska!
[21:28]	bnchs	he unironically recommends a locked-down laptop
[21:28]	bnchs	for "security"
[21:28]	bnchs	and "privacy"
[21:28]	schestowitz-TR	"national" sec
[21:28]	MinceR	who shill MICROS~1 snake oil
[21:28]	schestowitz-TR	back doors
[21:28]	bnchs	"Use Windows 10 (preferably in S mode and on a Secured-Core PC), macOS, ChromeOS or QubesOS. Generally, these operating systems have made substantial progress on adopting modern exploit mitigations, verified boot, sandboxing, memory safe languages and so on. "
[21:29]	schestowitz-TR	"national" sec is when the Pentagon controls every PC in the world remotely
[21:29]	schestowitz-TR	whose security?
[21:29]	schestowitz-TR	The nuts'
[21:29]	bnchs	he's called madaidan's insecurities
[21:29]	DaemonFC	Anti-"Linux" troll on GitHub was saying don't use "Linux".
[21:29]	DaemonFC	Swears Qubes OS isn't "Linux", though it is.
[21:29]	bnchs	for a reason, following his guide will put you in the right step towards insecurities
[21:29]	schestowitz-TR	it is
[21:30]	schestowitz-TR	fedora based last I checked
[21:30]	schestowitz-TR	through some jails/VMs at it
[21:30]	DaemonFC	Security through obscurity, I guess.
[21:30]	schestowitz-TR	still using snowden's name for marketiung
[21:30]	schestowitz-TR	their most famous ataff left
[21:30]	bnchs	"Use either the stock operating system or preferably, GrapheneOS on a Pixel 4. Do not root your device, do not keep your bootloader unlocked and stay away from alternative operating systems like LineageOS, as they substantially worsen the security model. Read the Android article for more details. "
[21:30]	bnchs	" Alternatively, use an up-to-date iPhone, which is comparable to GrapheneOS on a Pixel, and do not jailbreak your device. "
[21:30]	DaemonFC	The attacker isn't going to waste time doing jiggery pokery to escape a sandbox on a system nobody uses.
[21:30]	DaemonFC	"Security"
[21:30]	bnchs	"[Stay away from Linux phones.]"
[21:30]	bnchs	he recommends the worse options
[21:31]	bnchs	and a literal iphone
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[21:31]	bnchs	which has a CP scanner
[21:31]	DaemonFC	It's not a CP scanner. It's a file hash scanner. It can report anything the government wants it to.
[21:31]	TR News	Videos: ProtonDB, Sound, and UI Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163027
[21:31]	TR Bot	 Videos: ProtonDB, Sound, and UI | Tux Machines
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[21:32]	DaemonFC	They call it a CP scanner to get people to go "Eww, child molesters!" about a thing Apple will eventually use against more people.
[21:32]	MinceR	lol @ qubesos
[21:32]	MinceR	apparently running just one instance of the NSA backdoor isn't good enough for some people
[21:32]	bnchs	this guy is just a try-hard shill
[21:32]	schestowitz-TR	you know what tim swine-e
[21:32]	schestowitz-TR	might say
[21:32]	schestowitz-TR	if you don't have a rootkits on the iphone
[21:32]	schestowitz-TR	people will cheat
[21:32]	MinceR	also, hypePhones because nothing is more secure than something you don't have root on, but crApple does :>
[21:32]	schestowitz-TR	better rootkit them all
[21:32]	bnchs	"hi i'm a security researcher (you have to trust me) i worked in whonix and shit"
[21:32]	DaemonFC	www dot MICROSOFT GITHUB dot com backslash CANCEL STALLMAN, brought to you by Matthew Gulag.
[21:33]	MinceR	whonix, is that another piece of systemd-based garbage?
[21:33]	schestowitz-TR	they are still going
[21:33]	schestowitz-TR	but more slowly
[21:33]	schestowitz-TR	like headss
[21:33]	schestowitz-TR	the tails without systemd
[21:33]	schestowitz-TR	, heads
[21:33]	bnchs	" PureOS also uses linux-libre. This will prevent the user from loading any proprietary firmware updates, which just so happens to be almost all of them. "
[21:33]	schestowitz-TR	heads is dead for years
[21:33]	bnchs	OH NO MY PROPRIETARY FIRMWARES
[21:33]	schestowitz-TR	would not even be safe to use anymore
[21:34]	bnchs	WHAT SHALL I DEW!!!!!!!
[21:34]	DaemonFC	Yeah, unpatched security vulnerabilities are worse than anything else.
[21:34]	schestowitz-TR	here, have this 4 year old distro
[21:34]	schestowitz-TR	with tor
[21:34]	schestowitz-TR	and without systemd
[21:34]	DaemonFC	Microsoft routinely refuses to patch serious holes in SUPPORTED operating systems as a sales tactic.
[21:34]	schestowitz-TR	that's VERY secue
[21:34]	activelow	systemd fun, https://security.gentoo.org/glsa/202201-01
[21:34]	TR Bot	 Polkit: Local privilege escalation (GLSA 202201-01) Gentoo security
[21:35]	activelow	brought to you by IBM
[21:35]	DaemonFC	Like they did when Windows 2000 still had almost two years of extended support.
[21:35]	bnchs	activelow, brought to you by the mozilla javascript interpreter
[21:35]	bnchs	we trust a javascript interpreter to do it's job
[21:36]	activelow	meanwhile, number of vulnerabilities of BaphometOS: 0
[21:36]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, Just write all of your unsafe code in JavaScript. The engines running it are usually written in C++. Should be safe.
[21:37]	bnchs	"Hardware kill switches are nothing but marketing frills." -maidaidan the security researcher
[21:37]	bnchs	just trust your software bro!!
[21:37]	MinceR	lol
[21:38]	MinceR	this madaidan is starting to sound like some sort of parody of security researchers
[21:38]	DaemonFC	So long as it's running in a Javascript engine written in C++ and compiled with MSVC.
[21:38]	bnchs	hardware kill switches are bad for us- i mean snake oil for users
[21:39]	activelow	anyway, it's confusing me, systemd/linux is endorsed as free software, with gaping holes wide open
[21:39]	DaemonFC	Mozilla fired all of the people who could conceivably move their Javascript engine over to Rust.
[21:39]	DaemonFC	It's dying a death by a thousand cuts under Mitchell Baker.
[21:39]	MinceR	ibm/deadrat paid enough money for systemd to be endorsed as free software
[21:39]	MinceR	they're getting their money's worth
[21:39]	bnchs	"The microphone kill switch is useless since audio can still be gotten via the sensors (such as the gyroscope or accelerometer)."
[21:40]	bnchs	why disable the microphone, when the attackers can get the audio (albeit in very VERY low-quality form) from the sensors
[21:40]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Get this shit. GNOME 41 and 42 now have a "color picker" for libadwaita, and to use it, you have to have systemd.
[21:40]	bnchs	JUST LEAVE IT ON
[21:40]	DaemonFC	To choose a color on a GTK theme.
[21:40]	MinceR	lol
[21:40]	MinceR	they'll tell you it's totally not only because they wanted to force systemd on you
[21:41]	MinceR	systemd-colorpickerd
[21:41]	DaemonFC	https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/epiphany/-/issues/1731#note_1416245
[21:41]	TR Bot	 [GTK4] Support elementary style (#1731) Issues GNOME / Epiphany GitLab
[21:41]	DaemonFC	 Alexander Mikhaylenko @exalm 1 day ago
[21:41]	DaemonFC	Author Maintainer
[21:41]	DaemonFC	42 isn't using GTK4. And both it and the GTK4 build work perfectly fine with the dark preference on elementary OS 6 or GNOME 42.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	So I'm gonna guess you have older GNOME and need https://gitlab.gnome.org/exalm/color-scheme-simulator
[21:41]	bnchs	systemd-ircd
[21:41]	TR Bot	 Alexander Mikhaylenko / color-scheme-simulator GitLab
[21:41]	bnchs	systemd-linuxd
[21:41]	bnchs	systemd-gnud
[21:41]	MinceR	nah, IRC isn't "modern"
[21:41]	MinceR	and neither is GNU
[21:41]	MinceR	they're "obsolete"
[21:41]	bnchs	the cool kids use discord
[21:42]	bnchs	and github
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[21:42]	TR Bot	 Moving On | Techrights
[21:42]	bnchs	https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/vpns.html
[21:43]	TR Bot	 VPNs | Madaidan's Insecurities
[21:43]	bnchs	this is the only good article
[21:43]	bnchs	of his entire shitfest of a blog
[21:43]	schestowitz-TR	never heard that name
[21:43]	DaemonFC	MinceR, That's how you make mjg59_'s head explode. Like that unsolvable geometric shape idea to wipe out the Borg. Tell him Discord can't be made to depend on systemd.
[21:43]	MinceR	lol
[21:43]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR, madaidan the pseudo-security researcher
[21:43]	MinceR	maybe once MICROS~1 enables WSL by default on all Backdoors11 installations
[21:43]	schestowitz-TR	with a pseudonym too?
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: and 'secure' boot
[21:44]	MinceR	tencent can't afford to lose Backdoors users from their spying service
[21:44]	bnchs	yeah
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	I had to turn that crap off today
[21:44]	MinceR	i thought they did that already
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	the bios menus are becoming more complex over time
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	not even bio
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	*bios
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	some windows crap
[21:44]	bnchs	his blog is a meme
[21:44]	bnchs	even shills against openBSD
[21:45]	bnchs	and encourages windows 10 S mode
[21:45]	bnchs	in locked-down windows laptop
[21:45]	bnchs	he deleted the openBSD page
[21:46]	DaemonFC	iirc, this guy won't even give his real name....And coincidentally, his spelling and grammar mistakes match another anonymous website that attacks Flatpak.
[21:47]	bnchs	https://files.catbox.moe/3y4fos.html
[21:47]	bnchs	here's a copy of the openBSD page
[21:47]	TR Bot	connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/3y4fos.html )
[21:47]	MinceR	26 224355 <@MinceR> maybe once MICROS~1 enables WSL by default on all Backdoors11 installations
[21:47]	MinceR	actually not even then
[21:47]	MinceR	as android doesn't support systemd
[21:48]	bnchs	"Verified boot is an important security feature that eliminates privileged malware persistence by verifying the integrity of the entire base operating system. This is most commonly used on mobile devices with Android and iOS both having solid implementations, but desktop operating systems have made substantial progress on this as well; mainly macOS, Windows and ChromeOS, whereas any form of verified boot is nonexistent on OpenBSD. "
[21:48]	TR News	Debian GNU/Linux 11.3 Bullseye Released with 83 Security Updates and 92 Bug Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163029
[21:48]	TR Bot	 Debian GNU/Linux 11.3 Bullseye Released with 83 Security Updates and 92 Bug Fixes | Tux Machines
[21:48]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163030
[21:48]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[21:48]	bnchs	he only shills macos, windows and chromeOS
[21:48]	bnchs	who are implementing "verified" boot for the wrong reasons
[21:48]	MinceR	what sort of malware does chromeos come with?
[21:48]	bnchs	gulag's
[21:50]	bnchs	if this guy was for real, he would have named his blog "madaidan's securities"
[21:50]	bnchs	instead of "madaidan's INSECURITIES"
[21:50]	MinceR	:>
[21:50]	MinceR	"securities" is a financial term
[21:50]	MinceR	IT security is uncountable
[21:51]	bnchs	having madaidan's insecurities as the name means that his blog focuses on his insecurity advices
[21:51]	bnchs	like having windows 10 S on "Secured-Core" PC
[21:51]	MinceR	:>
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[21:57]	chicksahoy	https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-workstations-state-of-gaming/
[21:57]	TR Bot	 Fedora Workstation's State of Gaming - A Case Study of Control (2019) - Fedora Magazine
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[22:00]	MinceR	fedora doesn'tworkstation
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[22:11]	DaemonFC	Home Depot "privilege" module....
[22:11]	DaemonFC	"If you think the police are there to protect us, you have white privilege!"
[22:11]	DaemonFC	Welp, I don't have white privilege. What do I win, boss!?
[22:11]	MinceR	nothing
[22:12]	MinceR	in theory, the "privilege" would be what you win, but the above sounds more like a delusion
[22:13]	DaemonFC	"If you have to specify that you're married to a member of the opposite sex, you have heterosexual privilege."
[22:14]	DaemonFC	Well, 95% of the time, it's the correct assumption. Also, your module admits there are two genders. Whoops.
[22:14]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22031656
[22:14]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/avgizg5u3bn81.jpg created on 2022-03-16 20:07:53.502034
[22:14]	MinceR	"admits"?
[22:14]	DaemonFC	"If you don't have to work on Sundays and holidays, you have Christian privilege."
[22:15]	MinceR	how does that work?
[22:15]	DaemonFC	Never seen a single employer give a shit what religion you are when making the schedule.
[22:15]	DaemonFC	Also, everyone at Walmart gets Christmas off.
[22:15]	DaemonFC	Also, also, people who randomly get Sunday off have Christian privilege, even if they're not Christians.
[22:16]	MinceR	all the unemployed have christian privilege
[22:16]	DaemonFC	Not just Christian privilege....Muslim and Jew privilege as well!
[22:17]	DaemonFC	"If while growing up, college was an expectation of you, not a dream, you have class privilege."
[22:18]	DaemonFC	The CEO tells people making minimum wage because they couldn't afford college, while he went to college, most of whom are white, without a sense of irony about the whole damned thing.
[22:19]	DaemonFC	"If you use bathrooms without stares and fear, you have cisgender privilege."
[22:19]	DaemonFC	Or you don't want men in the girls bathroom while your daughter is in there.
[22:19]	bnchs	DaemonFC: in islam you literally pray 5 times a day
[22:19]	bnchs	i guess muslims don't work on everyday
[22:20]	MinceR	iSlam
[22:20]	DaemonFC	bnchs, Yeah, and the ridiculous part is you have to accommodate that. As an employer.
[22:20]	DaemonFC	You know what I'd probably do.
[22:20]	DaemonFC	I'd say "Go pray, and that was one of your breaks.".
[22:20]		*activelow admires the stamina of DaemonFC to inject his though into the channel constantly
[22:20]	MinceR	and then you get sued, because you're doing that in a fundamentalist state :>
[22:20]	activelow	thought
[22:21]	bnchs	average muslims just cherrypick parts of their religion which looks good for them
[22:21]	MinceR	not just muslims
[22:21]	bnchs	yeah not just muslims
[22:21]	bnchs	everyone
[22:21]	DaemonFC	"IF you don't have to worry about how to get into a store, you have able-bodied privilege."
[22:21]	MinceR	well, i hope i'm not cherrypicking any part of any religion :>
[22:21]	DaemonFC	The Americans with Disabilities Act is the reason there are like 40 crippled spots at every Walmart.
[22:22]	DaemonFC	Why ll of the doors are sliding, and why nothing in the store is elevated.
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[22:22]	DaemonFC	Also, thanks to the fact that people want to park closer than they can, they run off and bribe doctors to tell the state they need a handicapped placard when they don't.
[22:22]	bnchs	DaemonFC: also one prayer lasts about half an hour
[22:23]	DaemonFC	Because all of those parking spots have to be there or the company can be fined.
[22:23]	bnchs	and can be extended to how much the muslim likes to "pray" for
[22:23]	DaemonFC	bnchs, They wouldn't like me very much then.
[22:23]	bnchs	i put pray in quotes
[22:23]	DaemonFC	"Go clock out. Clock back in and earn money when you are ready to do more work."
[22:23]	bnchs	because sometimes they just act like they're praying just to goof off
[22:23]	DaemonFC	They can goof off if they want to when they're off the clock.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	Labor law doesn't say you have to pay them to pray.
[22:24]	bnchs	this is a loophole in islam
[22:24]	DaemonFC	It says they get two fifteen minute breaks and at least half an hour, unpaid, for lunch.
[22:24]	bnchs	and mostly muslims use it to get away from anything
[22:25]	DaemonFC	"WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THAT KID! LEAVE HER ALONE! SHE CAN'T BE MORE THAN 12!"
[22:26]	DaemonFC	Muslim: "This is my wife. Respect my freedom of religion!"
[22:26]	DaemonFC	State: "Okay, carry on!"
[22:26]	bnchs	yeah it's more than that
[22:26]	bnchs	say someone's looking for you because you done something bad
[22:26]	bnchs	and you're cornered
[22:26]	bnchs	just act like you're praying
[22:27]	bnchs	you haven't paid the taxes, and officers looking for you?
[22:27]	bnchs	just don't answer the door and act like you're praying
[22:28]	DaemonFC	They usually don't send the cops over unpaid taxes.
[22:28]	DaemonFC	They just slap a garnishment on your bank account and take the money.
[22:28]	bnchs	yeah but that's just an example
[22:29]	bnchs	muslims don't have to talk or say shit while they're praying
[22:29]	bnchs	and praying time can be extended to how much they like to pray
[22:36]	MinceR	not having to talk makes sense
[22:36]	MinceR	i'd expect an allegedly omnipotent and omniscient being to be capable of telepathy
[22:36]	MinceR	then again, they should be able to just read your wished from your mind
[22:36]	MinceR	even if they can't just predict it based on predestination :>
[22:36]	bnchs	yes it gives them time to think
[22:37]	MinceR	s/hed/hes/
[22:37]	bnchs	to strategize and plan out their escape plan
[22:37]	bnchs	the prayer buys them a ton of time
[22:38]	bnchs	mumbling a bunch of non-sense
[22:46]	MinceR	https://assets.amuniversal.com/072734b061de013a94f8005056a9545d   ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-03-06 )
[22:46]	TR Bot	Can't Work Remotely - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-03-06 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
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[23:28]	MinceR	https://assets.amuniversal.com/4db8fdf078a3013a9a6f005056a9545d   ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-03-07 )
[23:28]	TR Bot	Hear 12 Words - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-03-07 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
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[23:45]	DaemonFC	<MinceR> i'd expect an allegedly omnipotent and omniscient being to be capable of telepathy
[23:45]	DaemonFC	Many protestants believe you shouldn't pray out loud.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	If you think it, then Satan doesn't know what you're saying.
[23:45]	MinceR	unless satan can also read your mind
[23:45]	DaemonFC	But if you do say it, speak gibberish so that Satan doesn't know what it means, but God does.
[23:46]	DaemonFC	They claim that Satan cannot read your mind, but that he can put thoughts and feelings INTO your mind.
[23:46]	MinceR	iirc there is something about how you're not supposed to make a spectacle out of your worship or something
[23:46]	DaemonFC	Write-only access, you see.
[23:46]	DaemonFC	:)
[23:46]	MinceR	:>
[23:46]	DaemonFC	<MinceR> iirc there is something about how you're not supposed to make a spectacle out of your worship or something
[23:46]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it's not that. Trust me. Most of them love a good spectacle.
[23:47]	MinceR	:>
[23:48]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Science is getting good enough that fMRI scanning can crudely estimate what you're thinking about.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	Eventually, companies will probably want you to wear something where they stuffed it on page 87 of the EULA that they can literally suck thoughts out of your head and use them against you.
[23:50]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Logan's Run even predicted some of what we have no.
[23:50]	DaemonFC	*now
[23:50]	DaemonFC	Remember when he turns on the machine and it started showing him images of people who wanted to have sex with someone.
[23:50]	DaemonFC	Grindr!
[23:50]	DaemonFC	Okay, so it doesn't teleport them, but it does show how close they are.
[23:52]	MinceR	i don't think i've seen logan's run
[23:52]	DaemonFC	The show predicted a future where nobody cared if you "preferred men". It made it into the dialog. He changes his mind and she asks if he prefers men. In the 1970s, it probably did seem like nobody caring if you were gay was quickly approaching. 
[23:53]	DaemonFC	The Moral Majority came back and social issues had like two lost decades before anything started getting better again.
[23:54]	DaemonFC	Trump is gone, but he left behind judges to sabotage things. And a bunch of "trumpy" state governors who got into office promising to "own the libs".
[23:54]	DaemonFC	So they're quite able to make life miserable for a lot of people for some time just because he was around for 4 years.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	I don't see Trump returning, and if he does, it would be a disaster for the Republicans anyway.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	He's got a lot of problems with a "comeback".
[23:56]	DaemonFC	For starters, Mike Pence hates his guts now and thinks he'll run, and then there's 50 Republican Senators who see a future president every time they look in a mirror.
[23:57]	MinceR	:>
[23:57]	DaemonFC	So it's going to be a crowded and brutal primary. Trump has a lot of money, but he'll also have to spend a lot to make it out of that, as will the rest of them.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	And it could even lead to a contested convention.
[23:57]	MinceR	he could split off his part of the "republican" party :>
[23:57]	DaemonFC	Yeah, there's many ways for this to end, and none are a stronger Republican Party.
[23:58]	MinceR	he could lose the primary and then say it was "rigged"
[23:58]	DaemonFC	And what if he does make it, but is badly damaged by the primary?
[23:58]	DaemonFC	Then all Biden has to do is keep running attack ads talking about Trump's ties to Vladimir Putin and the Russians.
[23:59]	DaemonFC	86% of Americans have a negative or strongly negative view of Russia now and so all you need to do if Trump comes back is have wall to wall attack ads.