●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 ●● ● Jul 26 [00:00] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [00:00] Ariadne the point is that rust does introduce practical features that are far more interesting than memory safety [00:00] MinceR who eats soap, though? [00:00] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [00:00] matey /me belches suds and looks away sheepishly [00:00] MinceR lol [00:00] *ohama (ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [00:00] Ariadne but i don't think converting C codebases to rust is a winner [00:01] Ariadne you just wind up with worst of both worlds [00:01] MinceR oh, i forgot that rust is also unstable [00:01] MinceR so you get another method of wasting your own effort [00:01] matey have you ported your entire codebase for the cargo cult today? [00:01] Ariadne well, they kind of have stability now [00:01] Ariadne with editions [00:01] Ariadne idk [00:01] MinceR that's an improvement [00:01] matey so their instability is containerised [00:01] MinceR who knows, maybe one of these decades it will be somewhat practical [00:01] matey docker would be proud [00:01] MinceR lol [00:02] *huggi (sid80718@joseon/user/huggi) has joined #techrights [00:02] MinceR do cgroups support pride reliably yet? :> [00:02] matey cocgroups [00:04] matey a wonderful litmus test for stability in the world of free software is [00:04] matey finish this sentence: "at least we have..." [00:04] matey (booze) [00:05] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [00:05] matey /me wonders how our supply of litmus is doing [00:05] XRevan86 Ariadne: So in-ear monitors are just headphones? [00:05] DaemonFC If something is to be taken seriously, all programs ever written in it should remain valid in any future compiler. [00:06] Ariadne XRevan86: a specific kind of headphone yes [00:06] XRevan86 Ariadne: Which is the most banal set-up ever [00:06] matey i dont like litmus, it has a cilantro-like aftertaste [00:06] *birkoff (birkoff@freenode-2mn.d28.de28dt.IP) has joined #techrights [00:06] DaemonFC I don't like the idea of major breaking changes. [00:06] XRevan86 Ariadne: if that gives you problems on PipeWire, then that's definitely concerning. Which codec do they use by the way (shows in pavucontrol for instance)? [00:06] DaemonFC Everything should be backwards compatible. [00:07] matey 11 Kinds of Animal Poop Hunters Should Know | Field & Stream [00:07] matey /me wonders which animals they list, and didnt know they were poop hunters [00:08] matey bull is definitely on the list [00:08] matey poop hunters probably sell their catch to the gardening industry [00:10] Ariadne dunno, will check next time i need them [00:11] *SkywaveC3 has quit (connection closed) [00:11] matey if youre ever trying to ship a couple tonnes of manure over natinal borders [00:11] matey just mail it, dont put it in suitcases [00:13] matey no matter what you think, its really not fun explaining "its bullshit, its not bullshit" to customs [00:14] XRevan86 Ariadne: Also if *everything* Bluetooth is causing PipeWire to choke, then your WirePlumber doesn't have rtprio. [00:14] XRevan86 Both PipeWire and WirePlumber need niceness and rtprio. [00:15] XRevan86 That's one of the big differences with PulseAudio which on the contrary could extend latency indefinitely just to avoid any choking, and as such can work with normal privileges. [00:18] XRevan86 Don't know how that applies to Bluetooth, probably badly. [00:20] matey the word pocket comes from french poque (bag) and -ette (small) [00:20] matey small bag [00:21] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@echvspep9evs6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:41] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [00:51] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:51] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [01:03] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@mii8cedt3f3mk.irc) has joined #techrights [01:07] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:08] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [01:10] britney matey, what desktop do you run on openbsd? [01:23] matey [19~hi britney [01:23] matey ive used several, but the only one i recommend is dwm [01:24] matey id actually recommend a bunch of them, including icewm [01:24] matey but you know... github [01:24] matey dwm has a learning curve (not for people here, for noobs) [01:24] matey but once you get the basics its hard to tolerate alternatives [01:24] matey unless you prefer something shiny like awesome or something like that [01:26] matey "come out caboose! all we want to do is shoot you..." [01:27] matey [caboose] "dont listen to them... its a trick!" [01:30] bagira i3-gaps is where the magic is at [01:31] bagira its a fork of i3 with feature parity outside of the ability to put space between windows [01:31] bagira and then rofi for the window and dunst for notifier [01:31] bagira i said that badly: rofi for the dmenu replacement [01:33] britney matey, thats cool [01:53] bagira id like to see a pure C rewrite of i3 tbh [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [02:01] matey sadly the person most likely to rewrite i3 in pure c left because i joked about killing a fuckload of germans [02:01] matey but its not like he was actually going to bother [02:04] matey /me checks what percentages of each language i3 is [02:05] matey C 58.6% [02:05] matey Perl 38.5% [02:05] matey Shell 0.7% [02:05] matey Meson 0.7% [02:05] matey Ruby 0.7% [02:05] matey Python 0.5% [02:05] matey Other 0.3% [02:14] britney it would be awesome if there was a DE written in Golang [02:14] britney sadly the person most likely to rewrite i3 in pure c left because i joked about killing a fuckload of germans <--- that was lulz [02:16] matey i realise thompson worked/s on golang, and thats cool [02:16] matey but ive never liked what google does to languages or libraries at all [02:16] matey so why are people so into golang [02:17] matey google made it clear years ago that go was THEIR language, NOT that of the community [02:17] matey not that i think a community always knows what to do with a language [02:17] matey but i dont trust google more than them [02:18] britney for me its great because i dont have to touch gcc [02:19] britney C style syntax, garbage collection, fast compilation [02:19] matey why dont you want to use gcc [02:20] britney cuz gcc is a piece of shit [02:20] matey ok [02:20] matey i was hoping for something slightly more elaborate [02:20] britney go has an awesome compiler [02:20] britney lol there really isnt a good reason to hate gcc [02:20] matey that works too [02:21] britney is it hosted on github? lol [02:23] *TheRealPhanes (~phanes@vdaaabp6wfeza.irc) has joined #techrights [02:23] britney just checked, its not [02:23] *bagira has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:24] matey no? [02:24] matey https://github.com/golang/go [02:24] TR Bot - golang/go: The Go programming language [02:24] britney i was talking about gcc [02:24] matey Issues 5k+ Pull requests 285 [02:24] matey gcc is hosted by ibm instead :/ [02:25] matey sourceware.org [02:25] britney ICBM [02:25] matey the main competitor to gcc, llvm, is also github [02:25] matey (i)ts (b)asically (m)icrosoft [02:25] britney you use gcc on openbsd? [02:25] matey i dont write in c [02:26] matey ive used llvm in openbsd, yes [02:26] britney sometimes you might have to compile something [02:26] matey yes i compiled python 2 [02:27] matey because pypy2 was not available [02:27] matey at least not on the arch i wanted. [02:27] TheRealPhanes there are plenty of reasons to hate on gcc [02:27] matey its hosted and controlled by ibm [02:28] TheRealPhanes its a big bloaty thing held together by duct tape and bubble gum, and to do anything cool with it you need to edit its source code instead of pass sane huma-readable switches to it [02:28] matey define (or give example) of "anything cool with it" [02:28] TheRealPhanes they dont balance the complexity of feature interaction with the frequency that feature is actually used either [02:29] matey they dont balance the complexity of feature interaction with the frequency that feature is actually used either <- gnu isnt very big on design [02:29] matey "it does cool stuff" [02:29] matey "really, how" [02:29] matey "i dont fucking know, we just... it does" [02:31] matey granted a lot of designs are terrible and the fact that theyre a design doesnt always change the world [02:32] TheRealPhanes GCC: Swiss army knives are for chumps. Use an enigma machine without reliable documentation. [02:32] matey to be fair though [02:32] matey or perhaps crazy [02:32] matey gcc seems a lot more forkable than gcc, by virtue of the fact that you can still bootstrap it [02:33] matey try bootstrapping llvm sometime [02:33] MinceR 26 031648 < matey> so why are people so into golang [02:33] MinceR because c++ is too difficult for them to learn [02:33] britney c++ is trash tho [02:33] britney you mean C is hard [02:33] matey c++ is important because it has the power to bring everyone together [02:33] matey against it [02:34] britney lol matey [02:34] AdmFubar https://techxplore.com/news/2022-07-surveillance-pervasive.html [02:34] TR Bot Surveillance is pervasive: Yes, you are being watched, even if no one is looking for you [02:36] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-250722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-250722.txt [02:36] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 25, 2022 [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-250722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-250722.txt [02:37] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 25, 2022 [02:38] britney i've tried to teach myself programming many times with many different languages [02:38] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-250722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-250722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-250722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-250722.txt [02:38] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 25, 2022 [02:38] matey i think its sad that stallman never envisioned a future where corporations would do everything in their power to run free software projects via manipulation and other dirty tricks [02:38] britney Basic, Turing, PHP, Python, C++, C [02:39] matey and that the license wouldnt MAGICALLY fix all that [02:39] britney my favourites so far are Golang and C [02:39] matey hes a pretty smart guy-- he could have seen this coming [02:39] britney C was fun until I got to pointers [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-250722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-250722.txt [02:39] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 25, 2022 [02:39] matey especially with help from people saying Watch Out! This Is Whats Happening! [02:39] matey "no, you see, the license magically fixes all that" [02:40] matey im not saying its the license... but its the license [02:40] britney I liked C a lot better than C++, C++ was too complicated [02:40] matey britney: is go your favourite language? [02:40] britney probably because its OOP [02:41] britney matey, yeah I would say Go is my favourite, and C is my #2 [02:41] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-07-25.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-07-25.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:42] britney i think that python, java and c++ are trash [02:42] matey whats wrong with python [02:42] matey granted i think python 3 is blech [02:42] britney i dont like how it enforces whitespace, go on the other hand will fix your whitespace for you [02:43] matey how does go fix whitespace [02:43] britney you run "go fmt" on your whatever.go file and it'll fix the formatting [02:43] matey cool [02:43] MinceR hy fixes the whitespace and multiline lambda issues of python [02:44] matey ive worked on two different ways to avoid whitespace in python [02:44] MinceR but common lisp is even better [02:44] britney i think i'd rather use basic than python [02:44] britney basic was kinda fun [02:44] matey i used basic for 25 years [02:44] britney qb64.org [02:44] matey yeah i started modifying qb64 to output python instead of c++ [02:44] britney oops [02:44] britney https://qb64.com/ [02:44] TR Bot QB64 is a modern extended BASIC programming language that retains QBasic/QuickBASIC 4.5 compatibility and compiles native binaries for Windows, Linux, and macOS. [02:45] britney lol really? [02:45] matey britney: do you ever code just for fun [02:45] matey or only when you have an important task [02:45] britney so far its been out of boredom lol [02:45] matey that counts [02:45] britney for fun i guess [02:46] britney i dont really have important tasks that require programming [02:46] matey is ther a way to contact you via email? [02:46] britney there is always a program that solves a problem i have [02:46] britney yeah [02:46] matey fel free to pm if you dont want your addy logged [02:46] matey ill reply by email, not pm [02:46] MinceR lol @ basic [02:47] matey hey, basic had an important role in programming history [02:47] matey ill email shortly [02:47] britney basic can be fun lol [02:49] MinceR yeah, its role is that of the deterrent example [02:49] MinceR though cobol did it better [02:50] britney Nobody codes in ruby anymore(TM) [02:50] MinceR yeah, because python does the same thing with less ugliness [02:51] MinceR and was there earlier :> [02:51] britney the only thing people use ruby for is getting homebrew on mac [02:54] britney i suppose i should learn python so that i have a scripting language under my belt [02:54] britney its either that or javascript [02:55] TheRealPhanes ruby was always fuzz and everyone outside of it knew it was fuzz [02:56] TheRealPhanes too many guardrails, it was just too overengineered to be productive [02:57] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [02:59] britney Ruby... On Rails! ● Jul 26 [03:00] britney rails of coke [03:01] MinceR ruby on fails [03:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [03:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:05] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [03:06] matey i suppose i should learn python so that i have a scripting language under my belt <- learn python 2 so you can hear a bunch of fanboys tell you its "not maintained" every day of your life for the next n years [03:07] MinceR lol [03:07] matey python 2 is maintained... pypy2 is not abandoned like cpython2 is [03:07] MinceR it's not difficult to know both python2 and python3 [03:07] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 267439 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41866 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 months 29 days ago [03:07] matey https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.html [03:07] TR Bot ::[FSFLA]:: A New Dawn for Software Freedom [03:08] matey but its STABLE, so most corporations (and the orgs theyve purchased for themselves) treat any stable language as "dead" now [03:08] MinceR not a sunrise, but a galaxy-rise [03:08] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 13 MB TotalOut: 2.1 MB [03:08] matey billions and billions of features :/ [03:08] MinceR :> [03:08] matey /me pictures it under a mcdonalds sign [03:09] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:09] matey or rather on the sign, under the giant (\/) [03:10] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D303.jpg [03:10] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D654.jpg [03:10] IPFS QmUmo6iUYY6LPz7rMxVJXtYjzryXZaVK76GtZjE3wXnAbk [03:10] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:11] TR News Week 1: All over the place gemini://jagtalon.smol.pub/week-1-all-over-the-place [03:12] TR News "Alternative frontends refers to websites/services such as Newpipe or Invidious for YouTube." gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/itco1 [03:15] TR News "He goes on to list a few C "competitors" and asks if there are any more. He mentioned most of what I would have, although I would point out that (as much as I love it) Rust has terrible compile times." gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/re:_programming_languages.gmi [03:20] TR News "Graham played with a Steam Deck, Will switched to Firefox, Flim cleaned up his home directory, and Joe obsessed over battery health. Plus Copilot follow-up, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-187/ [03:20] TR Bot Late Night Linux Episode 187 Late Night Linux [03:21] britney matey, nah it would be python 3 [03:21] TR News "We continue our introduction to Linux series with what you need to get started. From making bootable media through trying the live environment, installing and getting new software applications" https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp427 [03:21] britney i wanna be a haxx0r like Mr Robot [03:21] TR Bot Going Linux Shownotes [03:21] matey im gonna go out on a limb and say you can hack things in python 2 as well [03:22] matey are you familiar with the idea of turing completeness? [03:22] britney but python isn't maintained!!11!1! [03:22] britney python2 [03:23] matey but python isn't maintained!!11!1! <- lol [03:23] britney python2 [03:23] matey corporate propaganda [03:23] AdmFubar from the Intel ooopsie doodles dept. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gpu-100x-performance-ray-tracing [03:23] TR Bot Coding Mistake Made Intel GPUs 100X Slower in Ray Tracing | Tom's Hardware [03:25] matey https://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/faq.html#is-pypy-a-drop-in-replacement-for-cpython [03:25] TR Bot Frequently Asked Questions PyPy documentation [03:25] matey https://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/faq.html#which-python-version-2-x-does-pypy-implement [03:25] TR Bot Frequently Asked Questions PyPy documentation [03:25] matey it really fucks me off that people who care about backwards compatibility are lied to about it by the python foundation [03:25] matey and a million fuckers parrot the lie [03:26] TR News "We are back with our usual monthly update! Boiling Steam looks at the latest data dumps from ProtonDB to give you a quick list of new games that work (pretty much? see ratings) perfectly with Proton since they were released in June 2022 all of them work out of the box or well enough with tweaks..." https://boilingsteam.com/top-15-new-games-to-play-on-linux-with-proton-july-2022-edition/ [03:26] TR Bot Top 11 New Games to Play on Linux with Proton July 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam [03:26] matey theres a solution for people who want python 2 [03:26] matey instead of advertising it, python tries to have a version monopoly by trying to force people to use 3 instead [03:26] britney matey, a final solution? [03:27] matey i mean theres a solid option but people are told there isnt one [03:27] matey thats dirty [03:27] britney i dont see why i shouldnt learn the latest python and not the old one [03:27] matey you should learn whatever version you want [03:27] matey what im saying is, python 3 imo isnt a fun language [03:27] matey all the python 3 coders disagree [03:28] matey but i switched to python 2 because it was the closest langauge i could find to basic [03:28] *TheRealPhanes enjoys python3 [03:28] matey well youre enterprise [03:28] *TheRealPhanes is now known as phanes [03:28] matey i think python 3 is too enterprise-centric [03:28] matey first, google went and made python 3 for google. not my personal favourite. makes me less inclined to try go [03:28] matey now, guido works for microsoft [03:29] matey thats even worse than google having their way with it [03:29] MinceR and that's my #1 gripe with python [03:29] matey so really, python 3 is the version ill never trust-- because if i do, theyll just make it worse [03:29] matey and that's my #1 gripe with python <- right? [03:29] matey i like python 2 because 1. its stable [03:29] TR News "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 745 for the week of July 17 23, 2022." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/07/25/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-745/ https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/07/25/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-745/ [03:29] TR Bot Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 745 [03:29] TR Bot Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 745 [03:29] MinceR also, pretty much any new language is vulnerable to corporate takeovers [03:29] matey 2. its got all the features i could want [03:30] matey 3. IT IS MAINTAINED (damned dirty liars) [03:30] matey just not by tpf [03:30] matey also, pretty much any new language is vulnerable to corporate takeovers <- sad but true [03:30] matey all the more reason not to use a new one. [03:30] matey besides, its probably on github [03:30] matey (pypy2 isnt btw) [03:30] matey (neither is pypy3) [03:30] britney lol [03:30] britney so python is controlled by microsoft now? [03:31] matey so pypy is the github-free cpython-like thing [03:31] matey so python is controlled by microsoft now? <- python was created by guido. guido moved to google. then microsoft literally hired him. [03:31] matey so yeah, its microsoft python [03:31] matey or if you like [03:31] matey microsoft microsoft python :/ [03:31] matey but pypy2 isnt (neither is pypy3) [03:31] britney well then, maybe i wont learn python at all [03:31] matey believe me, i dont expect people to join my little crusade. kuhn is just faking it for sfc website hits. [03:32] britney LOL [03:32] matey but if they DID care about my criteria [03:32] matey pypy fixes a lot of the problems. [03:32] britney i was just joking about basic [03:32] britney cuz its old lol [03:32] phanes oh wow they're gonna kill off the once piece managa in 3 years [03:32] britney i dont really want any microsoft programming languages [03:32] phanes *one piece [03:32] matey its "experienced" [03:33] MinceR 26 043150 < britney> well then, maybe i wont learn python at all [03:33] MinceR learn common lisp instead [03:33] phanes you should learn python before lisp [03:33] matey they're gonna kill off the one piece manga <- is that like a specific title? only it sounds more like a format. [03:33] britney common lisp? [03:33] matey is there an uncommon lisp? [03:33] britney i heard lisp was hard [03:34] phanes its also almost useless for making money or doing things that other people will literally ever use [03:34] phanes its embedded in some tools and that comes in handy, but i wouldn't treat it as more than niche [03:34] AdmFubar lisp is short for lots of irritating spurious parentheses [03:34] britney lol [03:35] MinceR 26 043344 < matey> is there an uncommon lisp? [03:35] matey you can always just to tiobe and use whatever language is NUMBER ONE [03:35] MinceR indeed most of them are uncommon [03:35] MinceR scheme is uncommon, emacs lisp is uncommon, hy is uncommon [03:35] TR News WTH? They seem to have no presence online except Microsoft proprietary software prison https://www.phoronix.com/news/NsCDE-2.2-Desktop-Released [03:35] TR Bot 2.2 Released As Retro Desktop Inspired By Unix's CDE - Phoronix [03:35] britney is lisp a scripting language? [03:35] TR News The best tiling window managers for Linux, and what they can do for you Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167667 [03:35] TR Bot The best tiling window managers for Linux, and what they can do for you | Tux Machines [03:35] MinceR depends on the definition, i guess [03:36] AdmFubar NsCDE reminds me of Amiga's Workbench [03:36] MinceR most REPLs are willing to evaluate forms from a text file for you [03:36] phanes I place lisp in that same category as Lua of obscure-but-occasionally-useful languages [03:36] TR News Re: [PATCH 0/2] signal: Last two bits for PREEMPT_RT - Sebastian Andrzej Siewior https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yt668pH5WpWkiPyG@linutronix.de/ Source: linutronix | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yt668pH5WpWkiPyG@linutronix.de/ [03:36] matey no, scripting languages are stupid things, and lisp is a programming language, which transcends all upper and lower level coding. [03:36] TR Bot Re: [PATCH 0/2] signal: Last two bits for PREEMPT_RT - Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [03:36] matey (i use scripting languages, im parodying attitudes towards them) [03:36] matey most REPLs <- see im not the only one who says repl, only now you know what it is [03:37] MinceR :> [03:37] TR News openMandriva 5.0-tp is ready https://www.openmandriva.org/ [03:37] TR Bot OpenMandriva [03:38] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hHYQz7fWpvs [03:38] TR Bot Rebel Rebel (2014 Remaster) - Invidious [03:39] TR News Istio / Announcing Istio 1.13.6 https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.13.x/announcing-1.13.6/ Istio 1.14.2 patch release. https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.14.x/announcing-1.14.2/ [03:39] TR Bot Istio / Announcing Istio 1.13.6 [03:39] matey repl without a cause [03:39] TR Bot Istio / Announcing Istio 1.14.2 [03:40] MinceR does having a program that builds and runs any C program passed to it make C a scripting language? [03:40] TR News Four workers arrive at a construction site ... https://blogs.kde.org/2022/07/25/four-workers-arrive-construction-site [03:40] TR Bot workers arrive at a construction site ... | blogs.kde.org [03:40] matey it depends who you ask [03:40] matey when people were using tinycc, this came up [03:41] matey "you can use it as a scripting language" [03:41] matey the line is a bit arbitrary [03:41] matey and either used to denote convenience, or just how everyone who uses this sucks at coding and we should make fun of them [03:42] matey a convenient tool goes through at least 3 stages of acceptance [03:42] matey maybe 4 [03:42] matey 1. only noobs use it and theyre happy [03:42] TR News Practical Guide to Using End-to-end Encryption (E2EE) on Linux https://linuxsecurity.com/features/practical-guide-to-using-end-to-end-encryption-e2ee-on-linux [03:42] TR Bot Practical Guide to Using End-to-end Encryption (E2EE) on Linux [03:42] matey 2. people make fun of noobs for using it, then theyre happy because they use a REAL language [03:43] matey 3. noobs stop using it, telling other noobs its not a real language [03:43] TR News Labeling a Linux Kernel RPM | Adam Youngs Web Log https://adam.younglogic.com/2022/07/labeling-a-linux-kernel-rpm/ Source: adam young | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//adam.younglogic.com/2022/07/labeling-a-linux-kernel-rpm/ [03:43] TR Bot Labeling a Linux Kernel RPM | Adam Young's Web Log [03:43] matey 4. someone who knows everything about real language points out why thats a childish attitude, and why the noob-friendly thing is actually superior in x y z ways [03:43] matey 5. nobody gives a shit what kind of tool it is anymore, and uses it anyway, and theyre happy [03:44] matey 6. microsoft or google take it over and its trash and ruined forever [03:44] matey 7. someone implements it in javascript [03:44] britney lol javascript [03:44] matey python has been through all of these stages, and is sure to prove its actually a cycle [03:44] MinceR :> [03:44] TR News "In typical applications, the optimal mirror is as flat as possible. The flatter the mirror, the less optical distortion it imparts onto the reflected image." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/25/a-diy-thermally-actuated-deformable-mirror/ [03:44] TR Bot A DIY thermally actuated deformable mirror | Arduino Blog [03:45] TR News Perl Weekly Challenge 174: Disarium Numbers in dc http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/07/perl-weekly-challenge-174-disarium-numbers-in-dc.html [03:45] TR Bot Weekly Challenge 174: Disarium Numbers in dc | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org] [03:46] phanes lol @ 7 [03:46] phanes they'll take over the world one day [03:46] britney matey, so someone has implemented python in javascript? [03:47] TR News Who to blame when sales are weak https://puri.sm/posts/the-ball-and-supply-chain-part-2/ [03:47] TR Bot The Ball and Supply Chain Part 2 Purism [03:47] matey gnome 13 will require a processor with a dedicated jspu [03:48] TR News "I started creating the User model in the last update. By now, I have migrated the whole User model to the Database from the GSettings and refactored the codebase accordingly." https://dev.to/amankrx/gsoc-mid-term-report-for-health-med [03:48] TR Bot GSoC mid term report for Health - DEV Community [03:48] britney lol [03:48] matey and stallmans clone (who in a fit of irony, is named STEVE) will try to port libre.js to assembly [03:48] MinceR has someone implemented javascript in javascript yet? [03:48] matey "how is that a fit of irony?" [03:48] matey "his middle name is jobs" [03:49] matey "and he was cloned using an ipad 28" [03:50] TR News About Kernel Symbol Table, Compilation, and more - Mara Canal https://mairacanal.github.io/kernel-symbol-table-compilation-more/ [03:50] TR Bot About Kernel Symbol Table, Compilation, and more - Mara Canal [03:50] matey by a dr garrett, phd in biology [03:51] TR News An Introduction to Go Scheduler | Developer.com https://www.developer.com/languages/go-scheduler/ Source: developer | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.developer.com/languages/go-scheduler/ [03:51] TR Bot Introduction to Go Scheduler | Developer.com [03:51] MinceR "I've got a PhD in pain and a master's in disaster" [03:51] TR News no trust in black box ai http://web.elastic.org/~fche/blog4/posts/no_trust_in_black_box_ai/ Source: web | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//web.elastic.org/~fche/blog4/posts/no_trust_in_black_box_ai/ [03:51] TR Bot no trust in black box ai [03:52] matey gnu.js [03:52] matey a 100% free operating system, written entirely in javascript [03:53] TR News The past and future of open hardware https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/25/Open-hardware-graveyard.html [03:53] TR Bot The past and future of open hardware [03:53] matey brought to you mozilla, who totally did it just to fuck with you [03:54] matey microsoft: "get ready for wsl 20" [03:54] britney with GnomeOS as the base OS [03:54] matey systemd-firefoxd [03:54] TR News This is openwashing; "support for open source" isn't the same as Open Source or Free software. It's just keyword stuffing. https://venturebeat.com/2022/07/25/nvidia-ai-enterprise-2-1-bolsters-support-for-open-source/ [03:54] TR Bot AI Enterprise 2.1 bolsters support for open source | VentureBeat [03:54] MinceR systemd.js [03:54] MinceR "finally it's not in C anymore" [03:55] britney all the drivers are written in rust [03:55] matey huh, i cant close my browser [03:55] matey firefox is shutting down... [03:55] MinceR lol [03:55] MinceR stay tuned for systemd.NET [03:56] MinceR (in visual basic) [03:56] TR News Virtio-net failover: An introduction https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/virtio-net-failover-introduction Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/virtio-net-failover-introduction [03:56] TR Bot Virtio-net failover: An introduction [03:56] matey azure codium [03:56] britney don't forget powershelld [03:56] matey 2015: FINALLY, an init that doesnt require shell scripts! [03:57] matey 2025: systemd implements a scripting language [03:57] MinceR that's systemd-powershelld to you, mister [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.21 ● Jul 26 [04:02] TR News Postgres is most transformative open source technology since Linux: EnterpriseDB https://www.dqindia.com/postgres-is-most-transformative-open-source-technology-since-linux-enterprisedb/ Source: dqindia | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.dqindia.com/postgres-is-most-transformative-open-source-technology-since-linux-enterprisedb/ [04:02] TR Bot Postgres is most transformative open source technology since Linux: EnterpriseDB [04:03] britney im watching mental outlaw setup gentoo on a 32 core threadripper [04:04] TR News 288: 17 Cool & Fun Linux Commands - Destination Linux - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-288/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-288/ [04:04] TR Bot 17 Cool & Fun Linux Commands - Destination Linux - TuxDigital [04:05] MinceR hi watching mental outlaw setup gentoo on a 32 core threadripper, i'm dad [04:07] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, July 25, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:07] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:07] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:07] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:08] matey wat ching sounds chinese [04:08] MinceR :> [04:09] matey mplayer ported to gnu.js https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BoXu6QmxpJE (may not play smoothly) [04:10] TR Bot Wang Chung - Everybody Have Fun Tonight (Official Video) - Invidious [04:10] matey i opened a ticket [04:14] TR News "There are 2606 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 2020 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [04:16] TR News End of this month there might be 42k Gemini pages in Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/ [04:16] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167668 [04:16] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [04:16] TR News Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Going Linux, and Late Night Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167669 [04:16] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Going Linux, and Late Night Linux | Tux Machines [04:19] TR News "Well, the popularity of blogging websites has increased multifold times. With this, the Ghost CMS has currently become one of the most popular open source blogging platforms around." https://unixcop.com/ghost-cms-the-security-features-that-you-need-to-know-about/ [04:19] TR Bot Ghost CMS: The Security Features that you Need to Know About - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials [04:20] TR News Adding Linux To A Windows Laptop - PC Perspective https://pcper.com/2022/07/adding-linux-to-a-windows-laptop/ Source: pcper | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//pcper.com/2022/07/adding-linux-to-a-windows-laptop/ [04:20] TR Bot Adding Linux To A Windows Laptop - PC Perspective [04:23] TR News Failures Compiling Profanity from Source gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220725.gmi [04:24] britney hi watching mental outlaw setup gentoo on a 32 core threadripper, i'm dad <---- :/ [04:25] matey technically thats a dad joke [04:26] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dad_joke [04:26] TR Bot Dad joke - Wikipedia [04:26] matey "Many dad jokes may be considered anti-jokes, deriving humor from an intentionally not funny punchline." [04:27] britney yeah [04:27] TR News "Its pretty simple: if youre not satisfied, switch to something you like, or even create something and share it with the community." https://afhub.dev/tech/opensource/linux/2022/04/16/what-is-wrong-with-the-linux-community.html [04:27] TR Bot What is Wrong with the Linux Community [04:27] matey Whose concert costs only 45 cents? [04:28] matey 50 Cent featuring Nickelback [04:28] matey its funny because if you laugh, youll never be cool ever again [04:28] matey lol [04:28] MinceR :> [04:29] matey "plateaus are the highest form of flattery" [04:30] matey what did the fish say when he swam into the wall? [04:30] matey dam! [04:30] TR News "My vitamin D wasnt low during my last few blood tests, as much as it didnt register. I was warned that it could lead to all sorts of health problems later in life, and could even get me into trouble if I caught something serious like Covid." https://rubenerd.com/vitamin-d/ [04:30] TR Bot (Initial) Vitamin D [04:31] matey theyve tried to improve the efficiency of wind farms by playing country music around them [04:31] matey but it hasnt worked because theyre really just big heavy metal fans [04:31] TR News "Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says he is open to sensible changes to the governments climate reform, but will not buckle under pressure from the Greens to increase the 43% emissions reduction target. Michael West on Albos first two months in office and the looming climate clash." https://michaelwest.com.au/albo-returns-from-his-honeymoon-bumps-into-adam-bandt/ [04:31] TR Bot Albanese returns from his honeymoon, bumps into Adam Bandt - Michael West [04:32] TR News Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Going Linux, and Late Night Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/AudiocastsShows:_Destination_Linux,_Going_Linux,_and_Late_Night_Linux.shtml #news [04:32] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Going Linux, and Late Night Linux [04:32] TR News The best tiling window managers for Linux, and what they can do for you https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/The_best_tiling_window_managers_for_Linux,_and_what_they_can_do_for_you.shtml #news [04:32] TR Bot The best tiling window managers for Linux, and what they can do for you [04:35] MinceR lol [04:35] TR News 165-mile Project Skyway to become the world's longest highway for drones https://newatlas.com/drones/project-skyway-worlds-longest-highway-drones/ Source: newatlas | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//newatlas.com/drones/project-skyway-worlds-longest-highway-drones/ [04:35] TR Bot 165-mile Project Skyway to become the world's longest highway for drones [04:36] britney matey, does smiling count as laughing? [04:36] matey sure, when i tell a joke people always say "im laughing on the inside" [04:36] TR News "The process of writing "good" commit messages is sacrosanct to some developers. A quick search will pop up dozens of articles on "How to Write Good Commit Messages." Proper style? Formatting. Imperative voice. Capitalization. Hard wraps." https://matt-rickard.com/commit-messages-dont-matter/ [04:36] TR Bot Commit Messages Dont Matter [04:37] britney then i'll never be cool again :( [04:37] matey maybe not [04:37] matey but youll be close enough [04:37] britney damn u and ur 45 cent joke [04:37] matey its worse than that, i just lifted it from the wikipedia article on dad jokes [04:38] britney lol [04:38] TR News And Pro Publica took bribes from one of them, Bill Gates, so it won't name his crimes (even worse than his tax evasion) https://americansfortaxfairness.org/issue/based-wealth-growth-26-top-billionaires-paid-average-income-tax-rate-just-4-8-6-recent-years/ [04:38] TR Bot BASED ON THEIR WEALTH GROWTH, 26 TOP BILLIONAIRES PAID AN AVERAGE INCOME TAX RATE OF JUST 4.8% OVER 6 RECENT YEARS - Americans For Tax Fairness [04:38] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [04:38] matey i consider that a double dad joke [04:38] matey because theres got to be almost an entire generation now that would say "who?" [04:39] matey with that said, theres a barista i know (they seem to cull 90% of them around age 25 or so) who not only knows OF the b52s but has seen them in concert [04:39] matey so that makes me happy [04:40] britney matey, how old are you? [04:40] matey def leppard said they have mixed feelings about music downloads-- on the one hand, industry blah blah blah but when they do concerts, they know some of the younger fans are only there because they heard them online [04:40] matey so therye happy about that [04:40] matey im a little bit older than roy and mjg [04:40] matey but not a lot [04:45] *darwin has quit (connection closed) [04:46] matey For building PyPy, we recommend installing a pre-built PyPy first (see Downloading and Installing PyPy). It is possible to build PyPy with CPython, but it will take a lot longer to run depending on your architecture, between two and three times as long. [04:47] matey Even when using PyPy to build PyPy, translation is time-consuming 30 minutes on a fast machine and RAM-hungry. You will need at least 2 GB of memory on a 32-bit machine and 4GB on a 64-bit machine. [04:48] matey To build PyPy on Unix using the C translation backend, you need at least a C compiler and make installed. Further, some optional modules have additional dependencies: [04:48] matey libffi, pkg-config [04:48] matey damn that libffi [04:49] matey libffi is in practically every fucking language [04:52] phanes i wish i had time to learn that side of shit [04:53] matey what side [04:53] phanes deep inside the compiler toolchain [04:53] phanes sorry im passively paying attention while i work [04:54] matey thats most people here i think [04:54] matey irc is the worlds laziest hive mind [04:54] matey after twitter, but i dont think it counts [04:55] matey you have to actually think for it to count [04:55] phanes twitter is a cesspool [04:56] britney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0nDk2_z2Qc [04:56] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=W0nDk2_z2Qc [04:56] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=W0nDk2_z2Qc ) [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [05:01] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [05:16] *britney has quit (connection closed) [05:16] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [05:17] matey what [05:17] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mXnJqYwebF8 [05:17] TR Bot Doja Cat - "Mooo!" (Official Video) - Invidious [05:17] matey wtf is this [05:18] matey "bitch, im a cow, bitch, im a cow" [05:18] matey "mooooooooooooooooooooo" [05:18] matey how does this even happen [05:18] matey "ive got an idea for a song" [05:19] matey "whats the idea" [05:19] matey "its a rap song... but its by a cow" [05:19] matey "a cow?" [05:19] matey "yeah, bitch: MOOOOOoooooooooo" [05:20] matey she alsa says "im not a cat" [05:21] matey despite her stage name being doja cat [05:21] matey so, its settled then. not a cat. a cow. moo. [05:23] matey and i should have known, this another not quite sfw music video [05:24] matey im just gonna start looking for "audio only" for music videos... [05:24] britney lol [05:26] matey i think i just became straightedge for life [05:27] matey im afraid to even smoke after seeing that [05:28] matey this one is audio only https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AD_TWloJ310 [05:28] TR Bot Doja Cat - MOOO! (Audio) - Invidious [05:29] matey for those who would rather only disbelieve their ears [05:36] britney matey, smoke cigarettes or marijuana? [05:39] matey i would never smoke tobacco [05:39] britney smoke weed every day! [05:39] matey and ive never smoked (much) of anything [05:40] matey i really doubt smoking anything every day is healthy [05:40] matey if i were going to make it a regular thing id do brownies, tea, that sort of thing [05:40] matey its a pretty rare occasion for me [05:41] matey in india than have a bhang lassi, that sounds cool [05:43] britney my favourite indian food is butter chicken [05:46] matey butter chicken is classic [05:46] britney new york fries has a dish called butter chicken poutine and its sooooo good [05:48] matey that sounds like an interesting combination [05:48] matey how much fat is there in poutine? [05:48] britney probably a lot lol [05:48] britney cheese is all fat [05:49] matey it sounds like maybe two large orders of loaded potato skins [05:49] matey in one serving [05:49] matey its not like i only eat health food or something [05:49] matey when i used to fly more often there was always this picture at the airport of this steak [05:49] matey i used to eat red meat too [05:50] matey it was like 3 or 4 inches tall... [05:50] matey tall. and then large in other dimensions as well [05:50] matey and i was like [05:50] matey who the fuck eats that thing? [05:50] matey im sure its delicious... but [05:51] matey it just seemed a bit insane [05:51] matey now i will eat an entire order of loaded potato skins-- not that i have in years [05:52] matey and butter chicken itself isnt exactly a salad [05:53] matey ive never had poutine. maybe someday [05:56] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:56] britney poutine is amazing [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [05:59] britney looks like openbsd doesnt have the latest firefox :/ [05:59] britney version 100 ● Jul 26 [06:08] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:08] *schestowitz[TR] has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:08] *rianne_ (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [06:08] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowitz[TR]@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [06:09] britney matey, https://imgur.com/a/6P4xVxK [06:09] TR Bot The magic of the Internet [06:12] matey /me frowns at what imgur has turned into [06:13] britney yeah fair enough [06:13] matey i have to enable EVERYTHING to load this. and its still not working [06:13] britney imgur is bloated [06:13] britney https://i.imgur.com/y6hJXNL.png [06:13] matey it actually does not work [06:13] matey ah! a png [06:14] matey fun! [06:14] britney :) [06:14] matey is that xfce? [06:14] britney yes [06:15] matey they certainly brought their panels up to date [06:16] britney yeah they use gtk3 now [06:17] britney im also using a dark mode theme [06:17] matey looks good [06:18] matey whats the blue and white icon (outside the emulator) after what has to be the gnome boxes icon [06:18] matey almost looks like a sail [06:18] matey oh is that vscodium? [06:22] britney oh yeah lmao! [06:22] britney i was updating my website [06:23] matey ive never seen the vscodium icon [06:23] britney it was a good guess then [06:23] matey but i figured it was probably code editor and i know you run it [06:24] matey its funny because if you go all the way back to dos [06:24] matey i think i made an icon for qb that looked not entirely unlike that icon [06:24] matey maybe 100 years ago [06:24] britney lol [06:24] matey this was before freebasic (let alone qb64) existed [06:26] britney its been a while since I've used an icon editor [06:26] matey yeah i mean you can just use a regular image editor now and convert to xpm of save as png or make it in inkscape [06:26] matey etc [06:26] britney mario paint :D [06:27] matey if you like [06:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:54] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:54] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:54] *asusbox (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [06:54] *rianne (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [06:58] TR News xkcd: Deepfakes https://xkcd.com/2650/ Source: xkcd | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//xkcd.com/2650/ [06:58] TR Bot Deepfakes [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [07:05] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:07] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167670 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/howtos_2.shtml #news [07:07] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [07:07] TR Bot today's howtos [07:09] TR News Who why does XNC promote this? "While the original GOLE1 would support Android 5.1 and Windows 10, the new GOLE1 only ships with Windows 11 Pro operating system, and Android has been dropped. Ubuntu and Linux are also listed as supported" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/26/gole1-pro-mini-pc-comes-with-5-5-inch-touch-screen-display-gemini-lake-processor-crowdfunding/ [07:09] TR Bot GOLE1 Pro mini PC comes with 5.5-inch touch screen display, Gemini Lake processor (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software [07:13] phanes man [07:14] phanes RHCS is just a shit product [07:14] phanes did someone on the product management team die in between releases or something? [07:15] matey red hat crap show? [07:18] schestowitz[TR2] hello world, welcome to the Red Hat "transformetion" [07:18] schestowitz[TR2] brought to you by "Enterprisers" [07:19] schestowitz[TR2] next up, Ansible Tower [07:24] TR News Drupal and WordPress are mountains of technical debt and bloat. Instead of getting leaner and faster over time they become CMSs that have far more files than nodes/posts. [07:24] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:26] TR News WordPress installations after v3 are remotely controlled by Automattic (the automatic updates), even if you're self-hosting, not using wordpress.com [07:27] phanes matey, Red Hat Certificate System yeah [07:27] phanes ive never seen RH stumble so hard understanding their own product [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] CaaS [07:28] phanes then they bury it in literally hundreds of circuitous docs that never actually explain it [07:29] matey maybe theyre killing themselves [07:29] phanes im willing to call it an engineering failure [07:29] phanes usually their stuff is kinda bullshit, but this is a new kind of condensed bullshit [07:29] matey this is how an os dies / we did with our shit design / blame it on our ceo, baby [07:30] phanes good luck to whoever has to maintain that shitball of automation code I just wrote around it [07:30] *techuser (~techuser@hbb3pgaksxfbq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:31] matey did you use rex? [07:31] *phanes clenches and pinches off a push to master branch [07:31] phanes nope [07:31] phanes i can't in alot of cases [07:31] phanes if i integrate rex into some paid endeavours it muddies the ownership waters [07:31] matey reasonable [07:32] matey stallman quit mit for the same reason [07:32] matey when he started gnu [07:32] phanes i also dont want to ever answer emails about what i just puked into their scm [07:32] TR News Fedora sours on CC No Rights Reserved license Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167671 [07:32] TR Bot Fedora sours on CC 'No Rights Reserved' license | Tux Machines [07:32] phanes i will literally delete them and go silent if someone asks me about it [07:33] phanes never again [07:33] phanes fuck [07:33] matey :) [07:34] matey usually their stuff is kinda bullshit, but this is a new kind of condensed bullshit <- EBS [07:34] matey enterprise bullshit [07:34] phanes plus i dont consider rex a distributable product at this point until i can convince someone it should be rewritten by a native C++ person [07:34] phanes it works [07:35] phanes but that sproc code need a rewrite [07:36] phanes plus im banned af on freenode for a while :D [07:36] phanes not freenode [07:36] phanes liberia [07:50] TR News Links 26/07/2022: Istio Released, Fedora (IBM) Against CC No Rights Reserved | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/istio-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/26/istio-released/ [07:50] TR Bot Links 26/07/2022: Istio Released, Fedora (IBM) Against CC No Rights Reserved | Techrights [07:51] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [07:51] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167672 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Programming_Leftovers.shtml #news [07:51] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:51] TR Bot Programming Leftovers [07:52] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:52] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: The Future, the Shortages, and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167673 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Open_HardwareModding:_TheFuture,_the_Shortages,_and_Arduino.shtml #news [07:52] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: The Future, the Shortages, and Arduino | Tux Machines [07:52] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Open_HardwareModding:_TheFuture,_the_Shortages,_and_Arduino.shtml ) [07:52] matey if youre not banned on liberia, you dont have anything to say [07:52] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167674 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/leftovers2.shtml #news [07:52] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [07:53] TR Bot today's leftovers [07:53] TR News Server: Virtio-net and Istio Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167675 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Server:_Virtio-net_and_Istio.shtml #news [07:53] TR Bot Server: Virtio-net and Istio | Tux Machines [07:53] TR Bot Server: Virtio-net and Istio [07:53] matey great plan-- lets move Free as in Speech software to a bottleneck made of knee-jerk neostalinists [07:54] matey that way, people who want to contribute are banned based more or less on regexes [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [08:18] *matey has quit (connection closed) [08:21] *matey (~matey@6v8cjbvydcdre.irc) has joined #techrights [08:27] matey "facebook takes mental health problems seriously, thats why theyre actually cracking down on anyone reading hannah arendts report on the banality of evil" [08:27] matey :D [08:37] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:39] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [08:41] psydruid being banned on Liberia is a badge of honour and you should wear it proudly [08:43] matey /me evaded a ban there SOLELY for an opportunity to get a second ban <3 [08:43] matey "my boss arrived at work in a new ferrari. i said 'wow, thats an amazing car!'" [08:44] matey "he replied, 'if you work hard, put all your hours in, and strive for excellence, ill get another one next year.'" [08:45] phanes oh im banned in layers [08:45] phanes like their netops keep fingerprint profiles of what "might be me" to look for [08:46] phanes i love that someone highly skilled is working for free scanning registration logs to kline my alts because god imagine what someone like that would do with their free time [08:47] matey liberia is literally insane [08:47] TR News IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 25, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/irc-log-250722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/26/irc-log-250722/ [08:47] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 25, 2022 | Techrights [08:47] matey either way, its the antithesis of what free software stands for [08:48] matey its a service that helps destroy free software. they might as well have a fucking ceo [08:48] psydruid it's not free software [08:50] psydruid it's where free software goes to die after being subverted by the open source mafia [08:50] TR News Re: Revisiting the Web Analytics Rabbit Hole gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-26-re-revisiting-the-web-analytics-rabbit-hole.gmi [08:50] matey hey thats a nice application you got there [08:50] TR News 10 Fun Free and Open Source Arcade Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167676 [08:50] TR Bot 10 Fun Free and Open Source Arcade Games | Tux Machines [08:50] matey be a real shame if we made it impossible to maintain and put microsoft in charge of who could contribute to it [08:51] matey yeah it would, red hat. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1x9YACdBUrU [08:51] TR Bot The Sopranos - Final Scene [Complete] [HD] - Invidious [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [09:08] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=S2uslF4K6fY [09:08] TR Bot Why Utopianism Is Good Actually - Invidious [09:09] matey note i dont agree with the title, im pointing to a video that has that title [09:10] matey transforming society by starting with utopianism (which i consider nearly pointless) is like building a house by starting with the roof [09:11] matey have fun with that, but stay the fuck away from the construction site [09:11] matey youre liable to get someone killed [09:12] matey i like the video despite this [09:13] matey i couldnt stand this guy at first but hes actually hilarious (sometimes) [09:16] matey the tillich shit is awesome [09:16] matey this guy loves durkheim [09:17] matey actually no, he loves quoting him [09:17] matey he hates durkheim, but he takes ideas he likes from him anyway [09:19] phanes matey, i got distracted before i could response. yeah they're nuts. at first i was like 'how are they identifying so fast' and then i saw that it was the email domain on the registration [09:19] phanes so then i obfuscated that a few times and id leave hints in the password [09:19] phanes and boin [09:20] phanes tested multiple times [09:20] phanes and then tested without the password hint [09:20] phanes got right through [09:20] matey wow [09:21] matey wait [09:21] phanes to them theyre being clever [09:21] matey doesnt that mean theyre storing passwords in plaintext [09:21] *phanes shrugs [09:21] matey how else would they get your hints? [09:22] matey i mean they shouldnt even be matching... that should be salted or something, how do they get hints from a hash? [09:22] phanes if i had to guess WITHOUT VIOLATING AN ACTIVE NDA i would imagine some kind of channel where the services dump to [09:23] phanes i never shouldve signed that stupid nda [09:23] phanes i had already won by that point [09:24] phanes matey, in any case it wasn't the most scientific of tests, so, it could be some other factor im not accounting for [09:24] phanes i dont believe that [09:24] phanes but it could be [09:24] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167677 [09:24] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:25] matey by the way, someone gave me an 8000-line log of some freenode thing where i guess you... banned a shitload of people or something? [09:25] matey and i was too tired to look at it [09:25] phanes i have banned hordes of people [09:25] matey if i get around to it (not a high priority) you wanna give a quick your-version? [09:25] phanes sure [09:25] matey i think this was a turning point of some kind [09:25] matey where you were relieved as a result. maybe [09:26] matey if im being vague i wasnt paying close attention-- i know this around the time it happened, but someone showed it to me like yesterday and i was like yeah, ok [09:26] phanes no i resigned under amicable terms at freenode [09:26] matey i know this around the time <- i mean i saw it around the time it happened [09:26] matey thats good, i suppose [09:27] matey for the purposes of my question it suck though because now id have to sift through that thing just to rephrase the question in a useful way [09:27] matey oh well [09:27] matey not your fault [09:27] phanes there's alot id like to say but need to wait about a year or so more [09:27] matey fair enough [09:27] matey by the way-- and if this is a catch 22 i understand, its not meant to be but how would i know [09:28] matey was there really any fucking need for that nda? i mean in terms of obligation i get your choice [09:28] matey i mean did THEY really need it? [09:28] matey if you cant answer that BECAUSE of said nda, i understand [09:28] phanes i think it was a prudent choice [09:28] matey theyre such annoying things. i cant imagine theyre 100% useless always [09:29] matey alright [09:29] matey i particularly cant stand the one at the fsf [09:29] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:29] matey it seems to be killing them [09:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:30] matey or maybe im wrong and its the only reason they arent be raided by the feds [09:31] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [09:37] TR News Proprietary https://text.npr.org/1113004433 | Source: NPR [09:37] TR Bot Online pricing algorithms are gaming the system, and could mean you pay more [09:37] TR News Proprietary https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.825420/full | Source: Frontiers [09:37] TR Bot Frontiers | The Impact of Algorithmic Price Discrimination on Consumers Perceived Betrayal [09:38] TR News "youve been dreading the moment when Big Techs all-seeing eyes reappear on peoples heads" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/25/23054367/google-ar-glasses-glassholes-coming-back | Source: The Verge [09:38] TR Bot Google is trying to fix the mistakes of Google Glass - The Verge [09:38] TR News "[Crackers] used stolen credentials to access a private source code repository and obtain a proprietary access key" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/25/23277161/uber-2016-data-breach-settlement-cover-up | Source: The Verge [09:38] TR Bot Uber admits covering up massive 2016 data breach in settlement with US prosecutors - The Verge [09:40] TR News "Science magazine said Thursday that it uncovered evidence that images in the much-cited study" https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/alzheimers-theory-undermined-accusations-fabricated-research-rcna39843 | Source: NBC [09:40] TR Bot Alzheimer's theory undermined by accusations of fabricated research [09:40] TR News "The average price of electricity in Estonia is to increase to 215.56 per megawatt-hour on Tuesday" https://news.err.ee/1608666877/electricity-to-be-30-times-more-expensive-in-estonia-than-finland-tuesday | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling [09:40] TR Bot Electricity to be 30 times more expensive in Estonia than Finland Tuesday | News | ERR [09:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [09:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [09:54] TR News "How to turn an open source product into a commercial challenger is no longer a mystery." https://blog.erlend.sh/open-source-explained | [09:54] TR Bot Open Source Explained Open Indie [09:54] TR News "Gloster is the latest hire to join the cyber office." https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3573401-former-google-executive-to-join-white-house-cyber-office-report/ | Source: The Hill [09:54] TR Bot Former Google executive to join White House cyber office | The Hill [09:55] TR News Censorship by Saudi Twitter. Twitter should just die. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/26/ptzy-j26.html | Source: WSWS [09:55] TR Bot WSWS readers denounce Twitter lockdown of SEP Australia account and in defence of Dr David Berger - World Socialist Web Site [09:56] TR News Yesterday morning, a second appeal was submitted, which has also been posted publicly on Twitter by SEP National Secretary Cheryl Crisp. " https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/26/fevy-j26.html | Source: WSWS [09:56] TR Bot SEP (Australia) files second appeal against Twitter censorship - World Socialist Web Site [09:57] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/technology/sports-streaming-rights.html | Source: New York Times [09:57] TR Bot Why Big Tech Is Making a Big Play for Live Sports - The New York Times [09:58] TR News A distraction https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11047649/The-sex-crazed-supernerds-Silicon-Valley-Musks-world-normal-morals-mere-mortals.html [09:58] TR Bot The sex-crazed supernerds of Silicon Valley: In Musk's world, normal morals are for mere mortals | Daily Mail Online [09:59] TR News not dying, it's being choked to death by Google and Microsoft http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-240722.html#tJul%2024%2023:36:12 [09:59] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 24, 2022 ● Jul 26 [10:01] TR News "No, people who are not even "open source" people come along and start infighting, and then leave and let communities collapse." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250722.html#tJul%2025%2002:11:49 [10:01] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 25, 2022 [10:02] TR News Okay, Google: To Protect Women, Collect Less Data About Everyone - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/24/1413245 Source: soylentnews | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/24/1413245 [10:02] TR Bot Okay, Google: To Protect Women, Collect Less Data About Everyone - SoylentNews [10:02] matey this is how the french protest things they dont like at work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bossnapping [10:02] TR Bot Bossnapping - Wikipedia [10:03] matey theres a lot of places this just wouldnt work, and usually, i dont like the french, but [10:03] matey thats kind of fun [10:04] schestowitz[TR2] yeah [10:04] schestowitz[TR2] the french probably don't like you either [10:04] schestowitz[TR2] sometimes I wonder if the french like thr french :-) [10:04] schestowitz[TR2] in epo, the french attack the french too [10:04] schestowitz[TR2] mercilessly at times [10:05] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:05] schestowitz[TR2] Melinda French [10:05] schestowitz[TR2] Bill replaced her with Lolita [10:08] TR News Fetterman https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/25/fetterman-challenges-ultra-millionaire-dr-oz-live-725-hour | Source: Common Dreams [10:08] TR Bot Fetterman Challenges Ultra-Millionaire Dr. Oz to Live on $7.25 an Hour [10:08] TR News Some gangs.. "White House announced that it was expanding the bureau with three new hires, including a former Microsoft executive and a former CIA official" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3573401-former-google-executive-to-join-white-house-cyber-office-report/ [10:13] matey sometimes I wonder if the french like thr french <- the french hate everyone [10:13] matey but only because they project their own self-loathing onto everyone else [10:14] matey a lot of this stems from their etrnal fued with belgium over who REALLY invented so-called french fries [10:15] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:15] matey but the reason they hate americans is different [10:15] matey they hate americans because the french army WAS SUPPOSED to climb out of the statue of liberty and take new york [10:16] matey the irish got there first, and the french have been REALLY PISSED ever since [10:16] matey thats right, they built a trojan lady [10:17] matey but just like everything else, the irish ruined everything (this is a joke within a joke because i like the irish) [10:17] matey (at least a little bit) [10:17] matey (i mean i do like enya) [10:31] *darwin has quit (connection closed) [10:33] TR News Screws social control media; this is NO activism.. it is controlled by the oppressor https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-response-dobbs-abortion/ | Source: The Nation [10:33] TR Bot Bidens Troubling Response to Dobbs | The Nation [10:35] TR News The police state https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/fifth-circuit-tells-cops-hispanic-on-a-bike-isnt-enough-suspicion-to-justify-stops-of-hispanics-on-bikes/ | Source: Techdirt [10:35] TR Bot Circuit Tells Cops Hispanic On A Bike Isnt Enough Suspicion To Justify Stops Of Hispanics On Bikes | Techdirt [10:36] TR News When the copyright cartel owns the news, too https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/why-is-media-lamenting-disneys-loss-of-copyright-instead-of-celebrating-the-public-domain/ | Source: Techdirt [10:36] TR Bot Is Media Lamenting Disneys Loss Of Copyright Instead Of Celebrating The Public Domain? | Techdirt [10:37] TR News "In this tutorial, we are going to explain how to install Netdata Monitoring Tool on the latest Ubuntu 22.04" https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-netdata-monitoring-tool-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting [10:37] TR Bot to Install Netdata Monitoring Tool on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting [10:37] TR News "The Espoir is a four-layer board that features the ESP32-MINI-1 which is a dual core processor with maximum frequency of 240MHz." https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-based-poe-board-designed-for-home-automation-applications/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:37] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-based-poe-board-designed-for-home-automation-applications/ ) [10:38] TR News "The IMB760 is an Extended ATX motherboard, meaning it measures around 330 x 305mm which allows it to incorporate additional ports." https://linuxgizmos.com/eatx-board-features-intel-lake-sp-processors-1tb-ddr4-and-dual-10gbe/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:38] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/eatx-board-features-intel-lake-sp-processors-1tb-ddr4-and-dual-10gbe/ ) [10:39] TR News "While Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 (RHEL 9) deprecated SHA-1 for signing for security reasons" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/rhel-security-sha-1-package-signatures-distrusted-rhel-9 | Source: Red Hat Official [10:39] TR Bot Enhancing RHEL Security: Understanding SHA-1 deprecation on RHEL 9 [10:39] TR News #HowTo Install Apple Music Client Cider on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167678 [10:39] TR Bot How to Install Apple Music Client Cider on Linux | Tux Machines [10:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [10:42] psydruid the French eat their own as if they are French fries [10:43] TR News #KeepItOn: Calcutta HC disposes of Ashlesh Biradars writ petition against internet shutdowns by directing that state authorities are bound to follow law https://internetfreedom.in/keepiton-calcutta-hc-disposes-of-writ-petition-against-internet-shutdowns-directing-state-authorities-bound-to-follow-law/ Source: internetfreedom [10:43] TR Bot #KeepItOn: Calcutta HC disposes of Ashlesh Biradars writ petition against internet shutdowns by directing that state authorities are bound to follow law [10:45] TR News "Dutch anti-piracy group BREIN continues its crackdown on pirate IPTV services." https://torrentfreak.com/brein-settles-with-pirate-iptv-seller-afer-global-chase-220725/ | Source: Torrent Freak [10:45] TR Bot Settles With Pirate IPTV Seller Afer Global Chase * TorrentFreak [10:45] TR News "games have been viewed over two billion times" https://torrentfreak.com/roblox-fights-dmca-subpoena-targeting-up-to-460k-innocent-gamers-220725/ | Source: Torrent Freak [10:45] TR Bot Fights DMCA Subpoena Targeting Up to 460K Innocent Gamers * TorrentFreak [10:48] matey for tomoeat a hearty breakfast men, for tomorrow we dine in halluin [10:49] TR News "The latest entry in the Total War franchise was ported by Feral Interactive over to Linux last month." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/total-war-warhammer-iii-cautiously-builds-upon-a-tried-and-true-formula/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:49] TR Bot War: Warhammer III cautiously builds upon a tried and true formula | GamingOnLinux [10:49] TR News "Have the need for speed and love a good retro first-person shooter? DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER is what you should take a look at." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/dimensional-slaughter-is-an-absolutely-wild-sounding-fast-paced-retro-shooter/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:49] TR Bot SLAUGHTER is an absolutely wild sounding fast-paced retro shooter | GamingOnLinux [10:49] TR News "Need a new relaxing puzzle game that doesn't require guesswork? Recently hexceed gained a Native Linux port." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/hexceed-is-a-free-hexagonal-minesweeper-out-now-for-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:49] TR Bot is a free hexagonal Minesweeper out now for Linux | GamingOnLinux [10:49] matey god dammitte [10:49] TR News "Looking more promising than ever, the in-development free and open source RPG Veloren has a big new release out." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/free-and-open-source-multiplayer-voxel-rpg-veloren-version-013-is-out/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:49] TR Bot and open source multiplayer voxel RPG 'Veloren' version 0.13 is out | GamingOnLinux [10:52] TR News "The Bash command line is a great way to automate tasks. Whether you are running Linux on a server and need to manipulate log files or other data" https://opensource.com/article/22/7/use-bash-automate-tasks-linux | Source: OpenSource.com [10:52] TR News "Excluding HTML, PDF files are probably the most popular document format on the web. Unfortunately, they're not compact." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/shrink-pdfs-minuimus-linux | Source: OpenSource.com [10:52] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://opensource.com/article/22/7/use-bash-automate-tasks-linux ) [10:52] TR News "Those Linux users who deal with PDF files have plenty of programs to choose from." https://www.tecmint.com/work-with-pdf-files-onlyoffice-docs-linux/ | Source: TecMint [10:52] TR Bot PDFs with this Linux tool | Opensource.com [10:52] TR Bot How to Work with PDF Files Using ONLYOFFICE Docs in Linux [10:52] TR News "By default, SSH already uses secure data communication between remote machines, but if you want to add some extra security layer to your SSH connections" https://www.tecmint.com/ssh-two-factor-authentication/ | Source: TecMint [10:52] TR Bot How to Setup Two-Factor Authentication For SSH In Linux [10:53] TR News "Black Tabby Games have just announced Slay the Princess." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/slay-the-princess-is-an-upcoming-choice-driven-psychological-horror-visual-novel/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:53] TR Bot the Princess is an upcoming choice-driven psychological horror visual novel | GamingOnLinux [10:53] TR News GOG discounts https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/gog-announces-the-major-find-your-indie-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:54] TR Bot announces the major Find Your Indie Sale | GamingOnLinux [10:54] TR News "Act fast if you want to get a good free puzzle game! Kenney is giving away Pixross on itch.io and it has Native GNU/Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/puzzle-game-pixross-from-kenney-is-free-for-24-hours/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:54] TR Bot game Pixross from Kenney is free for 24 hours | GamingOnLinux [10:56] TR News "Four years ago, the Supreme Court took a long look at the wealth of data generated by cell phones and made a good call." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/thanks-to-aclu-foia-requests-we-now-have-more-details-on-the-dhss-warrantless-acquisition-of-location-data/ | Source: Techdirt [10:56] TR Bot To ACLU FOIA Requests, We Now Have More Details On The DHSs Warrantless Acquisition Of Location Data | Techdirt [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [11:00] *matey has quit (connection closed) [11:09] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [11:09] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@vgjrvyjw9fiyc.irc) has joined #techrights [11:17] TR News Monopolies https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/25/congressmember_khanna_national_baby_formula_shortage | Source: Democracy Now [11:17] TR Bot Baby Formula Crisis Requires Urgent Action to Address Shortage of Vital Nutrition & Price Gouging | Democracy Now! [11:18] *schestowitz-TR has quit (connection closed) [11:18] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Connection closed) [11:18] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [11:18] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [11:21] *isak has quit (connection closed) [11:21] TR News Vaccine patents... and why this cartel too should be ridiculed to death https://truthout.org/video/as-monkeypox-spreads-us-vaccine-access-is-pitifully-inadequate/ | Source: TruthOut [11:21] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://truthout.org/video/as-monkeypox-spreads-us-vaccine-access-is-pitifully-inadequate/ ) [11:22] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [11:23] TR News Starbucks https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-union-starts-workers-fund-after-firing-of-over-50-pro-union-workers/ | Source: TruthOut [11:23] TR Bot Starbucks Union Starts Workers Fund After Firing of Over 50 Pro-Union Workers [11:29] TR News Games: Total War: Warhammer III, DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER, GOG, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167679 [11:29] TR Bot Games: Total War: Warhammer III, DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER, GOG, and More | Tux Machines [11:33] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [11:53] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:53] TR News CHIPS Act = graft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/25/sanders-shreds-big-techs-76-billion-corporate-welfare-payday-chips-act | like http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [11:53] TR Bot Sanders Shreds Big Tech's $76 Billion 'Corporate Welfare' Payday in CHIPS Act [11:53] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [11:53] TR News Hulu https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/25/dems-accuse-hulu-outrageous-censorship-abortion-rights-gun-control-ads | Source: Common Dreams [11:53] TR Bot Dems Accuse Hulu of 'Outrageous' Censorship of Abortion Rights, Gun Control Ads [11:54] TR News Games: Total War: Warhammer III, DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER, GOG, and More https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Games:_Total_War:_Warhammer_III,_DIMENSIONAL_SLAUGHTER,_GOG,_and_More.shtml #news [11:54] TR Bot Games: Total War: Warhammer III, DIMENSIONAL SLAUGHTER, GOG, and More [11:55] TR News "Powerbanks"... because today's "phones" aren't made to run for weeks like they did before https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/a-simple-charging-station-for-twelve-powerbanks/ | Source: Hackaday [11:55] TR Bot Simple Charging Station For Twelve Powerbanks | Hackaday [11:55] TR News "In need of a floppy controller for a 286 he was working on, [Gadget Reboot] took to GitHub to see what was available in the open hardware space." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/up-close-and-personal-with-an-8x-floppy-controller/ | Source: Hackaday [11:55] TR Bot Close And Personal With An 8x Floppy Controller | Hackaday [11:58] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 26 [12:07] TR News Arduino https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/hackaday-prize-2022-arduino-powered-weighing-scale-has-a-real-analog-display/ | Source: Hackaday [12:07] TR Bot Prize 2022: Arduino-Powered Weighing Scale Has A Real Analog Display | Hackaday [12:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [12:16] DaemonFC schestowitz Gotta keep the phone fed while MS Outlook and GEICO take turns killing the battery. [12:16] DaemonFC I hate this GEICO DriveEasy thing. I call it the warden. [12:16] schestowitz[TR2] gm [12:17] schestowitz[TR2] hang on [12:17] DaemonFC I kill the app sometimes just so it doesn't watch me call someone. [12:17] schestowitz[TR2] "Powerbanks"... because today's "phones" aren't made to run for weeks like they did before https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/a-simple-charging-station-for-twelve-powerbanks/ | Source: Hackaday [12:18] DaemonFC Apparently, you can disenroll from it by just removing the app from your phone and eventually they'll take it off and bill you for not having it. [12:18] DaemonFC It is almost worth just paying several bucks a month not to fuck with it and have it yell at you because some bum got in front of your car and made you slam on the brakes so he wouldn't live off GEICO forever. [12:19] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [12:20] DaemonFC schestowitz Carlin and soft language. [12:20] DaemonFC He would have liked "bum". [12:21] DaemonFC He would have said, "You can't call them that anymore, even though that's what they do. Why do people call them bums? All day long standing everywhere you need to go asking for money and cigarettes and to use your phone.". [12:21] DaemonFC He did kind of mention them. [12:22] DaemonFC In his soft language thing. "We don't have poor people living in the ghetto anymore. The economically disadvantaged occupy substandard housing in the inner city.". [12:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [12:25] DaemonFC That's what Matt GULAG's representative has done. [12:25] DaemonFC Madame Speaker and her drunkard of a husband. [12:28] schestowitz[TR2] paul poloso? [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] the microsoft shareholder? pelosi. [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: back o topic, see http://news.tuxmachines.org/index.shtml [12:29] TR Bot Tux Machines [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] it's still a prototype [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] of sorts [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] we're enhancing it [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] but the basics work [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:31] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:31] DaemonFC "[Bruce] Perens explained that the open-source world is finding standards that require RAND reasonable and non-discriminatory patent licensing increasingly problematic. As an example, he pointed to Qualcomm, which he said has been pushing within standards organizations like ETSI (the European Telecommunications Standards Institute) for licenses that require patent payments to be... [12:31] DaemonFC ...considered "open source," which they aren't. [12:31] DaemonFC A Qualcomm attorney, he said, "once offered to pay me to write a paper asserting that Richard Stallman had not meant to rule out patent royalties in the GPL. What a big lie that would have been!"" [12:31] DaemonFC LOL [12:31] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [12:32] DaemonFC Notice that the attorney didn't try to e-mail Stallman (he replies) and ask what he thinks about the GPL and patent payments. [12:32] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [12:32] DaemonFC He knew what the answer would be. [12:33] TR News "Folks who want to get away from the electricity that controls our lives." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/26/its-not-dark-yet-oh-wait-yes-it-is/ | Source: Counter Punch [12:33] TR Bot Not Dark Yet - Oh Wait, Yes It Is! - CounterPunch.org [12:33] DaemonFC schestowitz This is hypocritical of Fedora, however. They allow Fraunhofer AAC in there, and the license says that AAC patent holders (they have many) reserve all rights to attack you for using it. [12:33] TR News Scam https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/26/why-black-people-and-everyone-else-should-avoid-crypto/ | Source: Counter Punch [12:33] TR Bot Black People (and Everyone Else) Should Avoid Crypto - CounterPunch.org [12:34] DaemonFC You might mention that, later. [12:34] schestowitz[TR2] Yeah, first saw it in lwn [12:34] schestowitz[TR2] lake el reg [12:34] schestowitz[TR2] *later [12:34] DaemonFC Fedora claims this is okay because they patched it to remove "patented" routines, such as the HE-AAC profiles. [12:35] schestowitz[TR2] on the issue of cc0 though [12:35] schestowitz[TR2] I think you talk about another fontana issue [12:35] DaemonFC I suppose Fedora would have had attorneys combing over Low Complexity AAC (mainline profile). [12:35] schestowitz[TR2] but there is a correlation [12:35] DaemonFC But the license says they reserve the right to attack. [12:36] DaemonFC It's just that we (and the lawyers at Red Hat) suspect that with only LC-AAC, there's nothing to attack with. [12:36] DaemonFC It makes sense. LC-AAC is like 5 years older than all that crap that came later. [12:37] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [12:37] DaemonFC I don't think that Coding Technologies got the SBR and PS patents until like 2003, which means that the rest of it may be safe to use soon, with the exception of xHE-AAC. [12:37] DaemonFC But there might be prior art for that. [12:37] DaemonFC But I doubt anyone will try to enable it until the mid 2030s, and it's not widely used. [12:38] DaemonFC They were trying to make it the mandatory codec for WebRTC and Opus is instead. [12:38] DaemonFC Anything that's not 20 years old isn't guaranteed to be safe to use. [12:38] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [12:39] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@y56qsb6r6yg94.irc) has joined #techrights [12:42] DaemonFC Stallman is clearly greatly annoyed by software patents. [12:42] schestowitz[TR2] rightly so [12:42] schestowitz[TR2] so am I [12:42] DaemonFC Why would he be less annoyed that they threaten software covered by the GPL? [12:42] schestowitz[TR2] we did a 12-part series on this the past fortnight [12:42] schestowitz[TR2] rms does not say this [12:42] schestowitz[TR2] he always says it harms all software devs [12:43] DaemonFC No, but it's what that lawyer wanted to pay Perens to say. [12:43] schestowitz[TR2] and make a coalition (or foester one) with proprietary shit makers [12:43] DaemonFC Why would they pay him to say that? [12:43] schestowitz[TR2] to combat this problem [12:43] schestowitz[TR2] lawyers are overrated [12:43] schestowitz[TR2] and you can usually find "cheap" ones that do the same work [12:44] DaemonFC yeah [12:44] DaemonFC I noticed this. [12:44] DaemonFC We went to the one with the $4,000 coffee machine in the skyscraper. [12:45] DaemonFC I said I'd pay it. [12:45] DaemonFC He said he didn't want us as clients. [12:45] DaemonFC I found an attorney that took it for less and got it done over in Evanston. [12:45] DaemonFC What attorney in Chicago does not want an $8,000 case? [12:45] TR News Open Source Explained Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167681 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Open_Source_Explained.shtml [12:45] TR Bot Open Source Explained | Tux Machines [12:45] TR Bot Open Source Explained [12:46] DaemonFC I figured that our case was so bad that we'd better come up "guns blazing" with an expensive lawyer. [12:46] DaemonFC And the guy basically told us to get out after I offered to pay him. [12:46] DaemonFC Too much work I guess. Get the easy ones through. Make them pay for the skyscraper and the $4,000 hot chocolate maker. [12:46] DaemonFC It turned out to not be such a bad day. [12:46] schestowitz[TR2] exactly [12:47] DaemonFC We got dinner, watched one of those movies in the park. [12:47] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167680 [12:47] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:49] DaemonFC I keep checking my cat for fleas, and haven't found any evidence of them, but she's scratching more than usual. :/ [12:49] DaemonFC Wonder if I should get a flea collar or something and put it on her just in case. [12:50] DaemonFC My babysitter as a child had a dog named Nibbles.She always had a flea collar on him, didn't seem to bother him much. [12:51] DaemonFC The only thing that did bother the dog was when the neighbor, Mr. Henderson, had his lawn treated for weeds, and she let Nibbles out and he sat on Henderson's lawn to do his business and all the hair on his butt fell out later. [12:51] DaemonFC I don't know what they used on that guy's lawn... [12:52] DaemonFC Why do people spray their lawn? [12:52] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [12:53] DaemonFC It seems people fall into patterns. Like, nobody cares about your lawn. You may get cancer if you spray it. Costs money to spray it. [12:55] DaemonFC "According to Perens, it's now clear that an open source license should include an explicit patent grant." [12:55] DaemonFC It was pretty clear in the late 1990s too. [12:55] DaemonFC Microsoft and Netscape already had a ton of them stockpiled. [12:57] DaemonFC In 1998, was FhG's threat letter to anyone implementing MP3 or using it. [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [12:59] DaemonFC The threat was foreseeable by this point. [12:59] DaemonFC In 1997, Microsoft and Apple settled litigation where Apple claimed to have a patent on the GUI. ● Jul 26 [13:00] DaemonFC Not just a particular look and feel, but "any" GUI. [13:00] DaemonFC No, that was 1994. [13:04] schestowitz[TR2] price fixing cartels [13:04] schestowitz[TR2] they call it "cross licensing" now [13:04] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_Company [13:04] TR Bot San Francisco Canyon Company - Wikipedia [13:04] DaemonFC LOL [13:04] schestowitz[TR2] IBM did that also [13:05] schestowitz[TR2] but IBM usually wants lump sum payments in addition [13:05] DaemonFC Apple says Microsoft stole "thousands of lines" of Quicktime for Video for Windows. [13:05] schestowitz[TR2] so the poructs get more expensive [13:05] schestowitz[TR2] or profit margins decreae [13:05] DaemonFC In response, Bill Gates threatened to cancel Office for the Mac. [13:05] schestowitz[TR2] a hideen "lawyer tax" in every gadget [13:05] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: yes, there is Comes vs Microsoft leak [13:06] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: gates knows the power of blackmail [13:06] schestowitz[TR2] gates knows jeffrey esptein [13:06] schestowitz[TR2] knows [13:06] DaemonFC That would have hurt Apple immeasurably. [13:06] DaemonFC At the time, Apple had almost no Mac users and certainly no replacement for MS Office. [13:07] DaemonFC They could barely afford to keep the lights on, much less write an office program. [13:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [13:23] TR News "cryptocurrency world is chock full of scammers, Ponzi schemes" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/while-everyone-was-focused-on-crypto-scams-walmart-was-out-here-actively-helping-scammers/ | Source: Techdirt [13:23] TR Bot Everyone Was Focused On Crypto Scams, Walmart Was Out Here Actively Helping Scammers | Techdirt [13:32] TR News Twitter IS a lot of SPAM https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/if-someone-is-prattling-on-about-spam-on-twitter-and-how-that-helps-elon-musk-send-them-this-article/ | see http://techrights.org/2022/05/27/twitter-defrauding-shareholders/ [13:32] TR Bot Someone Is Prattling On About Spam On Twitter And How That Helps Elon Musk, Send Them This Article | Techdirt [13:32] TR Bot Visual Proof That Twitter Very Likely Faked Its Magnitude the Moment Musk et al (KSA, Ellison and so on) Wanted to Buy | Techrights [13:32] TR News FCC https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/fcc-to-finally-probe-u-s-wireless-abuse-of-customer-location-data/ | Source: Techdirt [13:32] TR Bot To Finally Probe U.S. Wireless Abuse Of Customer Location Data | Techdirt [13:33] TR News Arizona https://www.thenation.com/article/society/aclu-arizona-prison-censorship/ | Source: The Nation [13:33] TR Bot The Arizona Prison System Is Censoring The Nation. Were Doing Something About It. | The Nation [13:33] TR News "qualified immunity to Denver, Colorado police officers" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/25/appeals-court-corrects-its-previous-error-holds-that-recording-cops-is-a-clearly-established-right/ | Source: Techdirt [13:33] TR Bot Court Corrects Its Previous Error, Holds That Recording Cops Is A Clearly Established Right | Techdirt [13:34] TR News OpenJewelry https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/openjewelry-no-pliers-required/ | Source: Hackaday [13:34] TR Bot No Pliers Required | Hackaday [13:34] TR News Bellingcat https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/25/a-double-operational-game | Source: Meduza [13:34] TR Bot NO TITLE [13:35] TR News "For reasons still unclear, [Techmoan] has procured an RCA 8-track changer that holds five tape cartridges in a custom carrier." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/50-year-old-8-track-changer-repair-and-hack/ | Source: Hackaday [13:35] TR Bot 8-Track Changer Repair And Hack | Hackaday [13:48] *Redfoxmoon (~Red@freenode-vq3.aj5.jaj210.IP) has joined #techrights [13:49] TR News "heightened terrorist threat level" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/25/are-you-a-tourist-or-a-spy | Source: Meduza [13:49] TR Bot NO TITLE [13:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [13:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [13:50] TR News Well Bill Gates also "Cashed in During COVID", but Pro Publica took bribes from this famous criminal, so no articles in Pro Publica about that https://www.propublica.org/article/cemetery-long-island-pinelawn-lockes-pinelawn | Source: Pro Publica [13:50] TR Bot The Family Behind Pinelawn Memorial Park Cashed in During COVID ProPublica [13:50] TR News "Following along with the 2022 Hackaday Prize theme on building a better world by doing what we all do best hacking together solutions" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/25/2022-hackaday-prize-make-your-world-more-disaster-resistant-more-engaged/ | Source: Hackaday [13:50] TR Bot Hackaday Prize: Make Your World More Disaster Resistant, More Engaged | Hackaday [13:58] TR News Open Source Explained Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167681 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/EATX_board_and_Open_Hardware.shtml [13:58] TR Bot Open Source Explained | Tux Machines [13:58] TR Bot EATX board and Open Hardware [13:59] TR News EATX board and Open Hardware Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167682 [13:59] TR Bot EATX board and Open Hardware | Tux Machines ● Jul 26 [14:03] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [14:03] horseface ni hao [14:03] techuser hi [14:03] horseface yo! [14:03] horseface friend... [14:03] horseface :-D [14:04] schestowitz[TR2] wb, horseface [14:04] horseface thank you! [14:04] horseface :-D [14:04] schestowitz[TR2] are you high again? [14:04] horseface it's good to be back! [14:04] horseface actually rofl... [14:04] horseface unfortunately not. [14:04] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [14:04] schestowitz[TR2] ah [14:04] horseface I am in the forest in Denmark running from the government. [14:04] schestowitz[TR2] ok, so you're just very cordial [14:04] horseface I've been fucking SOBER for too long, I am about to eat my pants. [14:04] horseface yes... [14:04] horseface hjaha [14:05] schestowitz[TR2] partly spanish laughter [14:05] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [14:05] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [14:05] horseface lol [14:05] schestowitz[TR2] jajajaj [14:05] techuser I know a person who speaks Spanish, but no idea about timezons [14:05] horseface that's it! [14:05] techuser *timezones [14:05] techuser UTC-5 [14:05] horseface you nailed it. [14:06] techuser actually I did bring him here (Luis64_gamer/MoneyFliffer), but he left because he though DaemonFC is a bot who pretends to be a human [14:06] horseface LOL [14:06] horseface meth. [14:06] horseface not even once. [14:06] horseface LOL [14:06] *horseface is paranoid that everyone here is a bot irl [14:06] horseface o.o [14:06] horseface jk [14:06] horseface haha [14:07] psydruid dfc boten [14:07] TR News Links 26/07/2022: Open Hardware, DRM, and Politics | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/drm-and-politics/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/26/drm-and-politics/ [14:07] horseface rofl [14:07] TR Bot Links 26/07/2022: Open Hardware, DRM, and Politics | Techrights [14:09] TR News "Anyway, more or less just when I'd done that I went on a trip to Finland for a few days. At some point during that trip, I don't remember exactly when, I sat down cross legged to wait for someone or something and that same acidic smell hit me stronger than it had ever done in the hallway." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-26-oh-poop.gmi [14:10] TR News The Dumbest Card Shuffle gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-26-the-dumbest-card-shuffle.gmi [14:11] schestowitz[TR2] * horseface is paranoid that everyone here is a bot irl [14:11] schestowitz[TR2] IRL or online? [14:11] horseface all [14:11] horseface same same [14:11] horseface lol [14:11] schestowitz[TR2] these channels have been around for 14+ years [14:12] horseface lol [14:12] schestowitz[TR2] because people here partly know each other [14:12] schestowitz[TR2] mostlly online, a few also IRL [14:12] horseface oh cool. [14:12] techuser horseface: if you'd want to talk to him, he appears on kolya's IRC, and also on Discord [14:12] horseface I only really know people on freenode (libera now)... [14:12] horseface I've been there since forever... [14:12] schestowitz[TR2] in the early days many people from USENET or C.O.L.A. [14:13] horseface yes, I see. [14:21] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:22] TR News "Smart" phones = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning_chamber [14:22] TR Bot Operant conditioning chamber - Wikipedia [14:24] TR News Freexians report about Debian Long Term Support, June 2022 https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/07/26/freexians-report-about-debian-long-term-support-june-2022/ Source: raphaelhertzog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//raphaelhertzog.com/2022/07/26/freexians-report-about-debian-long-term-support-june-2022/ [14:24] TR Bot Freexians report about Debian Long Term Support, June 2022 [14:25] TR News ICBM likes to arrogantly assume every GNU/Linux user is a Microsoft systemd user [14:26] TR News At least no systems mentioned here today https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/hidepid-linux-hide-pid [14:26] TR Bot How to hide PID listings from non-root users in Linux | Enable Sysadmin [14:28] *techuser (~techuser@agkps5rm7zn9y.irc) has joined #techrights [14:36] TR News Privacy issue https://bylinetimes.com/2022/07/18/how-russias-western-propagandists-are-undermining-justice-for-war-crime-victims/ [14:36] TR Bot How Russias Western Propagandists are Undermining Justice for War Crime Victims Byline Times [14:37] TR News Creation of the Nest/Flock/Hatch logos and Colr! https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/creation-of-the-nest-flock-hatch-logos-and-colur/ Source: communityfedoraproject | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//communityblog.fedoraproject.org/creation-of-the-nest-flock-hatch-logos-and-colur/ [14:37] TR Bot Creation of the Nest/Flock/Hatch logos and Colr! Fedora Community Blog [14:40] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167683 [14:40] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:40] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:41] TR News ICBM cites "study" from Jim AllowHurst's former employer to prop up buzzwords, hype, HEY HI https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/artificial-intelligence-how-stay-competitive [14:41] TR Bot Artificial Intelligence: How to stay competitive | The Enterprisers Project [14:42] TR News "Hats Global Privacy Program"???? Give me a break!!! Red Hat works for DoD, almost certainly its BIGGEST client and the world's most malicious and extensive spy (also sudsidises spying companies in the "private" sector, aka GRAFT sector) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/privacy-compliance-culture [14:42] TR Bot 5 ways to embed privacy compliance into your culture | The Enterprisers Project [14:42] TR News Findex Fast And Easy Tool to Search Apps in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167684 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Findex__Fast_And_Easy_Tool_to_Search_Apps_in_Linux.shtml #news [14:42] TR Bot Findex Fast And Easy Tool to Search Apps in Linux | Tux Machines [14:42] TR Bot Findex Fast And Easy Tool to Search Apps in Linux [14:44] TR News Michael Phoronbel says "Intel Releases OSPRay Studio 0.11.1", but it's actually outsourced to proprietary software of Microsoft. Intel is infiltrated by Microsofter. It wasn't like this years ago: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [14:44] TR Bot Intel leaks - Techrights [14:45] TR News Companies' HR depts. need to test potential recruits for Microsoftism (religion) like airports requite COVID-19 tests... [14:46] *techrights_guest|91 (~45fe8fc6@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:47] *techrights_guest|91 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [15:06] TR News Linux Format 292 https://linuxformat.com/linux-format-292.html Source: linuxformat | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxformat.com/linux-format-292.html [15:06] TR Bot Linux Format 292 [15:06] TR News [PATCH] intel_idle: make SPR C1 and C1E be independent https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/CAJZ5v0iy_yH4bdJO+tCYrZMMDUFN81rFymR=b7Q6MfE4smzoPw@mail.gmail.com/T/#t Source: kernel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/CAJZ5v0iy_yH4bdJO+tCYrZMMDUFN81rFymR=b7Q6MfE4smzoPw@mail.gmail.com/T/#t [15:06] TR Bot [PATCH] intel_idle: make SPR C1 and C1E be independent [15:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:11] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22070749 [15:11] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/bf5dh5j56c991.png created on 2022-07-07 17:44:35.451868 [15:11] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [15:12] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [15:17] TR News "16-core Intel Core i9 ... power-efficient" SERIOUSLY????? "...Power Supply... 8-20V AT banana power jacks" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/26/conga-hpc-uatx-micro-atx-board-com-hpc-client-type-modules/ [15:17] TR Bot conga-HPC/uATX is a micro-ATX board for COM-HPC Client Type modules - CNX Software [15:17] schestowitz[TR2] psydruid: ^^ [15:19] *psydruid has watched a bunch of videos and read a bunch of articles about Loongson's 3A5000 CPU and 7A2000 chipset over the past day [15:19] TR News Your SBC will NEVER be competitive (price, value, technical aspects too!) if your objective is "RUN WINDOWS ON IT". See what happened to OLPC after Microsoft and also the Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation intervened to kill it. http://techrights.org/wiki/OLPC [15:19] TR Bot OLPC - Techrights [15:19] psydruid banana computing [15:20] TR News Windows is to SBC is what horse at the back seat of a sedan would be [15:20] schestowitz[TR2] Banana Reputing [15:20] schestowitz[TR2] Banana Pie in the face [15:21] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieing [15:21] TR Bot Pieing - Wikipedia [15:21] schestowitz[TR2] "A noted victim of pieing was Microsoft founder Bill Gates who was pied in Belgium in 1998." [15:21] schestowitz[TR2] LOL [15:21] schestowitz[TR2] victim [15:21] schestowitz[TR2] Epstein was a victim too [15:21] schestowitz[TR2] he got bad press [15:22] schestowitz[TR2] "According to former US president Donald Trump's former fixer Michael Cohen, his boss often referred to the Bill Gates incident and instructed his security detail to look out for flying pies. Trump has also expressed a disdain for fruit-based projectiles, stating under oath that "you can be killed if that happens.[33] [15:22] schestowitz[TR2] " [15:22] MinceR banana republic computing [15:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [15:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [15:26] psydruid They should make a sequel called Pieing Bill Gates [15:29] TR News LOL, party like it's the 1980s again... but this is INNOVA~1... because this time it's GULAG https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-adds-drag-and-drop-to-workspace-android/ [15:29] TR Bot Google Adds Drag and Drop to Workspace on Android Tablets - Make Tech Easier [15:29] TR News Is Mint Debian Underrated? - Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 Review - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=M7gIUh3GIpU | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/M7gIUh3GIpU [15:29] TR Bot Is Mint Debian Underrated? - Linux Mint Debian Edition 5 Review - Invidious [15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:30] TR News Essential Keybindings For Bash, Fish and Zsh - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XY5qCQcrHns | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/XY5qCQcrHns [15:30] TR Bot Essential Keybindings For Bash, Fish and Zsh - Invidious [15:31] TR News Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - Creating Files - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SMLESyMrvpY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/SMLESyMrvpY [15:31] TR Bot Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - Creating Files - Invidious [15:31] TR News Regata OS 22.0.3 | Ready for those who love to play - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ndtIxL3j6yk | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ndtIxL3j6yk [15:31] TR Bot Regata OS 22.0.3 | Ready for those who love to play - Invidious [15:33] TR News SpellBinding: XCIMOTA Wordo: MUFFS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-26.gmi [15:36] TR News Moving to self-hosted GitLAB: "The four previously separated repositories core, connector-dbus, renderer and server have been combined into this single repository. I was amongst those who promoted for the split, but since then the conditions have changed and it is far easier to maintain in an all-in-one repository now." http://jensge.org/2022/07/26/dleyna-has-moved/ [15:36] TR Bot dLeyna has moved | The adventures of foo [15:38] TR News Now promoting something proprietary that might in fact be spying? https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/07/sunamu-now-playing-linux-desktop-widget [15:38] TR Bot Sunamu is a Slick 'Now Playing' Widget for Your Desktop - OMG! Ubuntu! [15:39] TR News Adriaan de Groot: KDE Plasma 5.25 delayed on FreeBSD | [bobulate] https://euroquis.nl//freebsd/2022/07/26/plasma-delay.html Source: euroquis | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//euroquis.nl//freebsd/2022/07/26/plasma-delay.html [15:39] TR Bot KDE Plasma 5.25 delayed on FreeBSD | [bobulate] [15:39] MinceR OMG! Proprietary software! as usual [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] it won't be ready [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] till ubuntu is cheap mac [15:39] MinceR :> [15:40] TR News Track flight information from the command line http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/26786/track-flight-information-from-the-command-line [15:40] TR Bot Track flight information from the command line Using grep [15:40] TR News Check out Gate number for your flight from CLI with Chrome http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/26785/check-out-gate-number-for-your-flight-from-cli-with-chrome [15:40] TR Bot Check out Gate number for your flight from CLI with Chrome Using grep [15:41] TR News Live somewhere quieter, quit wasting money on batteries inside the headphones. https://www.addictivetips.com/apple-2/how-to-turn-on-noise-cancelling-on-airpods/ [15:41] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/apple-2/how-to-turn-on-noise-cancelling-on-airpods/ ) [15:41] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: still noisy neighbours? [15:41] schestowitz[TR2] dodn't get rid of the neiughbours [15:41] MinceR yeah, in budapest [15:42] schestowitz[TR2] so buy Apple AirPods [15:42] MinceR but i've managed to spend 2 weeks at the holiday house instead [15:42] MinceR no thanks [15:42] schestowitz[TR2] mandy is selling [15:42] schestowitz[TR2] good as new [15:42] schestowitz[TR2] from USA [15:42] MinceR i hate in-ear earphones [15:42] schestowitz[TR2] yeah, me as well [15:42] MinceR and i especially hate crApple/beats crap [15:42] schestowitz[TR2] bad for the sensory system too [15:42] schestowitz[TR2] I use a padded set [15:42] MinceR lowest possible quality, BUT you get extra weights [15:45] schestowitz[TR2] a pistol is cheaper than apple airpods [15:45] schestowitz[TR2] or "beats"(r) from fakeDoktor Dreck [15:46] schestowitz[TR2] and witha pistol you can remove sources of noise [15:46] schestowitz[TR2] and it lasts longer, too [15:46] schestowitz[TR2] (sarcasm) [15:46] schestowitz[TR2] (dark humour) [15:46] MinceR :> [15:47] AdmFubar wait till you see how noisy prison is [15:47] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22070727 [15:47] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/h8wucjx9a7991.png created on 2022-07-07 10:24:54.014004 [15:47] MinceR prisons will be a lot quieter too, once all the humans are dead [15:49] schestowitz[TR2] AdmFubar: so in prison you get Beats(r) [15:49] schestowitz[TR2] and get beaten up [15:49] schestowitz[TR2] by the gansters [15:49] schestowitz[TR2] q: what's wrose than prison? [15:50] schestowitz[TR2] a: being in prison without noise-cancelling headphones [15:51] MinceR https://pics.onsizzle.com/beats-by-dad-10273417.png [15:51] schestowitz[TR2] whatever happens, don't drop the beats [15:52] schestowitz[TR2] esp. not in the shaower [15:52] schestowitz[TR2] they're not waterproof [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] and you get 64 beats in the arse ● Jul 26 [16:00] *techrights_guest|68 (~5ed21ae0@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:01] *techrights_guest|68 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [16:07] *techrights_guest|64 (~18a2990e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:07] *techrights_guest|64 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [16:08] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/no-more-ransom-helps-millions-of-ransomware-victims-in-6-years/ [16:08] TR Bot No More Ransom helps millions of ransomware victims in 6 years [16:10] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:11] *techrights_guest|83 (~519aab65@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:11] *techrights_guest|83 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] they should just get rid of WIndows [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] about 95% of ransomware is Windows [16:14] TR News Michael Larabel has just changed his profile picture in all Phoronix pages to https://www.phoronix.com/assets/categories/michaellarabel.webp [16:18] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@qbeewnuez7vaq.irc) has joined #techrights [16:24] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:25] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [16:28] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@qbeewnuez7vaq.irc) has joined #techrights [16:29] psydruid Next he'll call himself Louis LF LarAMDel [16:30] schestowitz[TR2] the site cna still be of use to find some kernel commits [16:30] schestowitz[TR2] lkml shows the whole lot [16:31] schestowitz[TR2] and it's hard to find significant changes [16:31] schestowitz[TR2] but phoronix highlights the ones of interest to itself [16:31] schestowitz[TR2] so you can see one person's cross-section of cross-cut of the whoel [16:34] TR News Tails 5.3 is out Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167685 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Tails_5.3_is_out.shtml #news [16:34] TR Bot Tails 5.3 is out | Tux Machines [16:34] TR Bot Tails 5.3 is out [16:38] TR News Phoronix has just gone offline. Even clownflare cannot reach it. Yes, it outsourced to this malCDN. [16:40] TR News July 2022 Turnip Status Update - Danylos blog https://blogs.igalia.com/dpiliaiev/turnip-july-2022-update/ Source: igalia | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blogs.igalia.com/dpiliaiev/turnip-july-2022-update/ [16:40] TR Bot July 2022 Turnip Status Update - Danylos blog [16:41] MinceR (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/fSGjqdY [16:41] TR Bot Poor Little Pepper - rimgo [16:53] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [16:56] TR News "THP_SWAP has been proven to improve the swap throughput significantly on x86_64 according to commit bd4c82c22c367e ("mm, THP, swap: delay splitting THP after swapped out")." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arm64/linux.git/commit/?id=d0637c505f8a1d8c4088642f1f3e9e3b22da14f6 [16:56] TR Bot kernel/git/arm64/linux.git - AArch64 Linux kernel port [16:57] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [16:57] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [16:57] TR News Will you trust a project created by Gulag and which takes security advice from the most notorious back door proponent (NSA)? https://containerjournal.com/features/what-are-the-nsa-k8s-guidelines-and-why-should-you-care/ [16:57] TR Bot What Are the NSA K8s Guidelines and Why Should You Care? - Container Journal [16:58] phanes im surprised you dont talk more about selinux [16:58] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [16:58] phanes anybody remember that huge vuln that came out that allowed you to get root access, but only if you had selinux enabled? [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [16:59] MinceR i avoid selinux [16:59] MinceR it's not just an NSA backdoor, it's also the wrong approach for security ● Jul 26 [17:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [17:02] phanes hard to make that case in corporate env's, especially with certified security professionals on the staff [17:02] TR News Sudden subject changer after the WIPO affair? https://news.itsfoss.com/debian-non-free/ [17:02] TR Bot Debian May Consider Including Non-Free Firmware in Official Releases - It's FOSS News [17:02] phanes there's a whole indoctrination program tied to just about any security credentials that you could get that would certify you to be able to be listened to about it lol [17:03] schestowitz[TR2] phanes: we covered selinux a lot [17:03] MinceR who certified them, microsoft? [17:03] MinceR "let's slap another layer of complexity on top, that will fix security!" [17:03] psydruid Pluton and Goofy [17:03] schestowitz[TR2] e.g. http://techrights.org/2013/11/17/nils-torvalds-on-back-doors/ http://techrights.org/2013/11/25/freedo-and-nsa-code/ [17:03] TR Bot Confirmed by Nils Torvalds: NSA Asked Linus Torvalds for Back Doors in Linux, Torvalds Did Not Tell Us | Techrights [17:03] TR Bot Linux in Government and Why There is Still NSA Agenda to Keep Wary Eye on | Techrights [17:03] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2015/07/08/red-hat-nsa/ [17:03] TR Bot Red Hat and NSA: This is Not News | Techrights [17:03] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/paul-cormier-hortonworks/ [17:03] phanes MinceR, the main problem is there's an industry tendency to laugh at turning anything with the word "security" in its name off without examining why [17:03] TR Bot Red Hats CEO is Still Connected to the NSA Through the Hortonworks Board | Techrights [17:03] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2013/09/20/linux-backdoor-question/ [17:04] TR Bot Linus Torvalds Dodges Question About Requests for NSA Backdoor in Linux | Techrights [17:04] MinceR "our code monkeys have no clue what they're typing, but here's a bunch of buzzwords we made up to make you think the result is secure." [17:04] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2014/02/06/close-to-the-nsa/ http://techrights.org/2014/04/02/red-hat-dot-net/ http://techrights.org/2013/11/24/tpm-back-doors-patriot-act-etc/ [17:04] TR Bot Poll: Only 39% Trust Red Hat Over Back Doors | Techrights [17:04] TR Bot Red Hat Should Keep Its Distance From NSA Facilitator Microsoft | Techrights [17:04] MinceR (the latter is more the windows approach, not the selinux one) [17:04] TR Bot Trusting Trust and Trusting Red Hat et al. | Techrights [17:04] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2014/01/17/rhel-security/ [17:04] TR Bot For Real Security, Use CentOS Never RHEL and Run Neither on Amazons Servers | Techrights [17:07] schestowitz[TR2] I don't think any serious security professional consideres selinux a solution [17:07] schestowitz[TR2] like people who studied genetics consider "asking Microsoft for permission|" to b e "seucirtyu [17:07] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [17:07] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [17:07] schestowitz[TR2] 14+ years ago http://techrights.org/2008/04/30/binary-bridges-and-security/ [17:07] TR Bot Novells Binary Bridges: Could SUSE Ever Inherit the Anti-Features of Windows? | Techrights [17:08] schestowitz[TR2] Vaul;t 7 had some stuff about Red Hat [17:08] schestowitz[TR2] CIA devised ways in [17:08] psydruid SELinux is definitely a solution to the security problem of not having an easily accessible backdoor into GNU/Linux systems [17:08] schestowitz[TR2] and NSA uses Fedora, Red Hat.. [17:08] psydruid so they added one for your convenience [17:09] schestowitz[TR2] techrights used to use selinus [17:09] schestowitz[TR2] but it was just a nuisance [17:09] schestowitz[TR2] and a polacebo [17:09] schestowitz[TR2] never prevented any real attack attempts [17:09] schestowitz[TR2] tracy got rid of it eventually [17:09] psydruid is there any merit to its design principles? [17:10] schestowitz[TR2] "secure" boot [17:10] schestowitz[TR2] = [17:10] schestowitz[TR2] let's ask the NSA's enabler [17:10] schestowitz[TR2] and loyal partner [17:10] schestowitz[TR2] if it's OK to boot this [17:11] schestowitz[TR2] than a bunch of Microsoft-paid media monkeys will repeat the lies [17:11] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2022/07/25/nontechnical-security-talking-points/ [17:11] TR Bot Inside the Minds of Microsofts Media Operatives Part III Attacking Real Security, Promoting Lies and Fake Security | Techrights [17:11] schestowitz[TR2] as pointed out 24 hours ago [17:16] TR News Why You Should Use a VPN On Your Linux Machine - LinuxTechLab https://linuxtechlab.com/why-you-should-use-a-vpn-on-your-linux-machine/ this one looks like a real article, not the typical VPN webspam [17:16] TR Bot You Should Use a VPN On Your Linux Machine - LinuxTechLab [17:18] TR News Linux Foundation would have you believe Microsoft (crime) is "community" and GitHub is "Open Source", never mind the brand "Linux" being misused for greenwashing: "Learn more about the OS-Climate community on GitHub." https://www.fosslife.org/os-climate-releases-3-tools-tackling-climate-change [17:18] TR Bot OS-Climate Releases 3 Tools for Tackling Climate Change [17:19] TR News And also spam for CompTIA (Microsoft shill). FOSSlife is run by rogues of LF and openwashers https://www.fosslife.org/9-top-jobs-cybersecurity see http://techrights.org/2009/05/29/idg-boosts-act-comptia/ [17:19] TR Bot 9 Top Jobs in Cybersecurity [17:19] TR Bot IDG, ACT, CompTIA and the Rest of the Microsoft AstroTurf | Techrights [17:21] *lightbringer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:21] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/doccy.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-doccy#comic ) [17:21] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [17:21] TR News OSS Security Highlights from the 2022 [FAKE] Open Source Summit North America https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/oss-security-highlights-from-the-2022-open-source-summit-north-america/ http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/ [17:21] TR Bot OSS Security Highlights from the 2022 Open Source Summit North America - Linux Foundation [17:21] TR Bot With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights [17:23] TR News KDE Plasma 5.25 delayed on FreeBSD Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167686 [17:23] TR Bot KDE Plasma 5.25 delayed on FreeBSD | Tux Machines [17:23] *lightbringer (~mincer@95x2wqtssxtyu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:25] TR News Debian May Consider Including Non-Free Firmware in Official Releases Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167687 [17:25] TR Bot Debian May Consider Including Non-Free Firmware in Official Releases | Tux Machines [17:30] *lightbringer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:36] TR News Firefox finally ships with long-awaited swipe gestures Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167688 [17:36] TR Bot Firefox finally ships with long-awaited swipe gestures | Tux Machines [17:38] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167689 [17:38] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:43] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 26 [18:24] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/secondcoming.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-secondcoming#comic ) [18:24] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [18:29] *KiKi (~KiKi@dnqp5euy36v3k.irc) has joined #techrights [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:32] *KiKi has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:41] TR News SUPER AFFORDABLE Ryzen powered Linux desktop: DeskMini UM350 Review - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cKJU9IFDbE0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/cKJU9IFDbE0 [18:41] TR Bot SUPER AFFORDABLE Ryzen powered Linux desktop: DeskMini UM350 Review - Invidious [18:43] TR News Hints about SUSEs Adaptable Linux Platform' emerge Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167690 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Hints_about_SUSE's_'Adaptable_Linux_Platform'_emerge.shtml #news [18:43] TR Bot Hints about SUSE's 'Adaptable Linux Platform' emerge | Tux Machines [18:43] TR Bot Hints about SUSE's 'Adaptable Linux Platform' emerge [18:44] TR News System76s Pop!_OS Linux 22.04 Distro Is Now Available for Raspberry Pi 4 PCs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167691 [18:44] TR Bot System76s Pop!_OS Linux 22.04 Distro Is Now Available for Raspberry Pi 4 PCs | Tux Machines [18:45] *KiKi (~KiKi@exx25empxc28c.irc) has joined #techrights [18:49] TR News IBM Uses Power10 CPU As An I/O Switch

Read more [18:49] TR Bot IBM Uses Power10 CPU As An I/O Switch [18:50] TR News CHERI-flavored computer runs KDE for the first time Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167692 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/CHERI-flavored_computer_runs_KDE_for_the_first_time.shtml #news [18:50] TR Bot CHERI-flavored computer runs KDE for the first time | Tux Machines [18:50] TR Bot CHERI-flavored computer runs KDE for the first time [18:50] TR News IBM Uses Power10 CPU As An I/O Switch https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/26/ibm-uses-power10-cpu-as-an-i-o-switch/ Source: nextplatform | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/26/ibm-uses-power10-cpu-as-an-i-o-switch/ [18:51] TR News Why link to articles from 17 years ago? https://www.linuxsecurity.com/news/vendors-products/linuxone-ibm-s-new-linux-mainframes?rss [18:51] TR Bot LinuxONE: IBM's New Linux Mainframes [18:52] *KiKi (~KiKi@exx25empxc28c.irc) has left #techrights [18:52] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@exx25empxc28c.irc) has joined #techrights [18:52] TR News Fedora Infrastructure downtimne. "We're updating copr packages to the new versions which will bring new features and bugfixes." So it needs to be offline??? [18:52] *KiKi_ is now known as KiKi [18:58] TR News This is bullshit: " Of course, if a company doesnt have a website, it basically cant survive!" https://thishosting.rocks/why-you-should-not-choose-a-free-web-hosting-provider/ [18:58] TR Bot Why You Should NOT Choose a Free Web Hosting Provider [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [19:00] TR News Red Hat / Fedora / IBM Leftovers: The Realm of Big Blue Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167693 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Red_Hat__Fedora__IBM_Leftovers.shtml #news [19:00] TR Bot Red Hat / Fedora / IBM Leftovers: The Realm of Big Blue | Tux Machines [19:00] TR Bot Red Hat / Fedora / IBM Leftovers [19:01] TR News Audiocasts/Shows: DeskMini, Regata OS, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167694 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/AudiocastsShows:_DeskMini,_Regata_OS,_and_More.shtml #news [19:01] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows: DeskMini, Regata OS, and More | Tux Machines [19:01] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows: DeskMini, Regata OS, and More [19:05] TR News It would be better to run Minetest, not proprietary stuff from Microsoft https://adam.younglogic.com/2022/07/can-you-run-a-minecraft-server-on-an-ampere-computing-based-system/ [19:05] TR Bot Can you run a Minecraft Server on an Ampere Computing based System? | Adam Young's Web Log [19:06] *KiKi has quit (Quit) [19:09] TR News Security: Patches, NSA, VPN, Fake Security, and Free Certificates Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167695 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Security:_Patches,_NSA,_VPN,_Fake_Security,_and_'Free'_Certificates.shtml #news [19:09] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167696 [19:09] TR Bot Security: Patches, NSA, VPN, Fake Security, and 'Free' Certificates | Tux Machines [19:09] TR Bot Security: Patches, NSA, VPN, Fake Security, and 'Free' Certificates [19:10] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:16] TR News thenewstack = corporate SPAM site, "Tigera sponsored this post." https://thenewstack.io/3-best-practices-for-image-building-and-scanning/ so they run ads... as 'articles' [19:16] TR Bot 3 Best Practices for Image Building and Scanning The New Stack [19:17] phanes im kinda shocked those coprs aren't being updated with a blue/green deployment model [19:18] phanes fedora really seems to be going to shit lately [19:18] britney phanes, how so? [19:20] phanes just noticing a general drop in org coherence and some configuration choices that just stand out as more amateurish than id expect from fedora historically. nothing i can place my finger on outside of systemd. [19:21] britney phanes, you run fedora? [19:21] phanes i like systemd and think its a good choice for system init and service state control but beyond that its just interference with other subsystems [19:21] phanes britney, yes for quite a few years, its great for what i use it for [19:22] britney phanes, i love fedora but i switched to arch linux for the memes [19:23] britney fedora was boring, everything worked perfectly [19:26] britney there is a meme about trans women running arch linux, having anime girl profile pictures, and wearing thigh high "programmer" socks [19:29] TR News Linux Around The World: Portugal - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-portugal/ Source: LinuxLinks | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxlinks.com/linux-portugal/ [19:30] TR Bot Around The World: Portugal - LinuxLinks [19:31] TR News Why you should not disable SELinux gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-07-26.gmi [19:34] TR News Community to celebrate openSUSE Birthday - openSUSE News https://news.opensuse.org/2022/07/26/community-to-celebrate-os-birthday/ Source: news | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.opensuse.org/2022/07/26/community-to-celebrate-os-birthday/ [19:34] TR Bot Community to celebrate openSUSE Birthday - openSUSE News [19:35] *rianne_ has quit (connection closed) [19:35] *liberty_box has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:35] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [19:35] *rianne_ has quit (Connection closed) [19:35] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [19:36] TR News No, this is actually a reason to abandon x86 (among other reasons) https://www.techradar.com/news/theres-another-great-reason-to-update-to-64-bit-linux-now [19:36] TR Bot another great reason to update to 64-bit Linux now | TechRadar [19:37] TR News "But don't devs use INS key? Like havent you ever been messing with code and wanted to just overwrite stuff over and over? Or for that matter, want a 10key pad? Dunno why they call it a developer version. But anyways cool $1100 linux laptop." Cool? Check the processor. It can overheat. https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=6369960#post6369960 [19:37] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=6369960#post6369960 ) [19:38] TR News Backstabbers at scale https://blog.opensource.org/osi-to-attend-scale-19x-conference/ [19:38] TR Bot OSI to attend SCaLE 19x conference - Voices of Open Source [19:40] TR News "An attacker capable of invoking the protocols' functionalities could cause configuration and system changes." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-207-02 Ironic name for the Equipment: Safety Manager [19:40] TR Bot Honeywell Safety Manager | CISA [19:41] TR News "Were wrapping up another great week with the following activities from the Apache community..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up265 [19:41] TR Bot The Apache News Round-up: week ending 22 July 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog [19:50] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/26/germanys-ex-chancellor-schroder-is-in-moscow-kremlin-does-not-rule-out-he-might-be-in-talks-with-putin-news "Germanys ex-chancellor Schrder is in Moscow, Kremlin 'does not rule out' he might be in talks with Putin" [19:50] TR Bot . [19:50] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/26/a78411 [19:50] TR Bot Kremlin Says Move Against Jewish Agency Should Not Be 'Politicized' - The Moscow Times [19:52] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/GSLD6dDxAzM hypotheticals [19:52] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=GSLD6dDxAzM [19:52] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | Ukraine. Biden and Putin get ready for a Nuclear War / TO BE OR - Invidious [19:56] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1551952816763191297 [19:56] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russian state TV: host Vladimir Solovyov and State Duma member Alexander Babakov discuss how Moscow can use stolen Ukrainian territories to prop up Russia's failing economy. As you must know by now, this was never about NATO or the Nazisonly aggression and conquest."|nitter [19:56] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/dirty.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-dirty#comic ) [19:56] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) ● Jul 26 [20:05] XRevan86 CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-25-07-26 [20:05] TR Bot Dispatch for July 25 Telegraph [20:23] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:30] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/1xnskJV.mp4 [20:30] *CrystalMath (~coderain@zpvtapq2in23w.irc) has joined #techrights [20:38] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@m5c7ce8bffjme.irc) has joined #techrights [20:47] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-iis-extensions-increasingly-used-as-exchange-backdoors/ [20:47] TR Bot Microsoft: IIS extensions increasingly used as Exchange backdoors [20:48] MinceR :) [20:51] AdmFubar even google says use a a last resort...https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/the-beautiful-lies-of-machine-learning-in-security [20:51] TR Bot The Beautiful Lies of Machine Learning in Security [20:51] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@xut3kp7tmzcx4.irc) has joined #techrights [20:51] DaemonFC Oh my God. The FOID number put me on hold instead of just saying nobody would answer my call! [20:51] DaemonFC It's a miracle! [20:52] DaemonFC I love the state. Improving all the time. :P [20:52] MinceR lol [20:52] DaemonFC I'll bet they have a secret number that the local cops can use to get right through while they make us listen to them spell out the state website and talk about COVID-19 for 6 minutes. [20:53] DaemonFC Then if you hit the wrong button, the guy explains how to transport a firearm for so long you may as well hang up. [20:54] AdmFubar https://www.databreaches.net/responsible-disclosure-divd-describes-a-long-and-windy-road-notifying-a-chinese-firm/ [20:54] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/responsible-disclosure-divd-describes-a-long-and-windy-road-notifying-a-chinese-firm/ ) [20:56] DaemonFC MinceR: The State Police and the post office got a FOID Card to the Highland Park Shooter after knowing he was dangerous. [20:56] DaemonFC Meanwhile, I'm legally allowed to have one, don't know where the fuck it is. [20:57] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [20:57] DaemonFC They send them right out to those kids that get expelled for threatening to blow up the school and drawing pictures of themselves shooting their classmates, complete with red pens for the blood. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [21:00] MinceR (dog) https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/dogtreats.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-dogtreats#comic ) [21:00] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [21:08] TR News "I have added image search to Kennedy, my Gemini search engine. Now you can search for images across all of Gemini space which matches a query." gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-07-26-kennedy-image-search.gmi [21:09] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [21:09] *rowbee has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [21:09] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [21:15] psydroid2 Microsoft is society's biggest enemy when it comes to all things computing and beyond [21:17] AdmFubar https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/all-news/article-713023 [21:17] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/all-news/article-713023 ) [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:32] AdmFubar https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/07/unbeknown-to-most-americans-washington-is-offering-to-share-its-largest-biometric-database-with-other-governments.html [21:32] TR Bot Unbeknown to Most US Citizens, Washington is Preparing to Share Their Biometric Data With Dozens of Other National Governments | naked capitalism [21:33] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167697 [21:33] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:35] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [21:35] DaemonFC The guy at the state police says my old card is still valid and it's no big deal if the new one doesn't arrive, but sometimes the post office takes up to 45 days and they don't even know why. [21:35] DaemonFC Murrica! Fuck yeah! [21:36] DaemonFC But I won't be in any legal trouble as long as I have a valid FOID card, which again, my old one is valid. :) [21:36] DaemonFC So that's awesome. [21:36] DaemonFC Stallman has too much faith in the government. [21:37] DaemonFC I tried explaining how terrible the FOID Act is. He says he doesn't have a deep understanding of it, not being an Illinois resident. He said perhaps I'm right and it's being applied unfairly, and perhaps the police shouldn't get to be the ones to decide who gets one. [21:39] DaemonFC There's many people, especially black people, who need to get their FOID convictions reconsidered and overturned. [21:39] DaemonFC It's never been a fair law. There's many people in prison over FOID that shouldn't be there. [21:43] schestowitz_log test only [21:46] TR News A quick test of MongoDB 6.0 with syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/a-quick-test-of-mongodb-6-0-with-syslog-ng Source: syslog-ng | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/a-quick-test-of-mongodb-6-0-with-syslog-ng [21:46] TR Bot quick test of MongoDB 6.0 with syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community [21:48] TR News "The Xen Project has released one or more Xen Security Advisories (XSAs). The security of Qubes OS is not affected. Therefore, no user action is required." https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2022/07/26/xsas-released-on-2022-07-26/ [21:48] TR Bot XSAs released on 2022-07-26 | Qubes OS [21:59] TR News A new flaw. Severity 9.6 out of 10. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-05 [21:59] TR Bot AutomationDirect Stride Field I/O | CISA ● Jul 26 [22:00] TR News And another one, 9.8 out of 10 in severity. "JScript and .NET"... oh. NET... so... https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-04 [22:00] TR Bot ICONICS Suite and Mitsubishi Electric MC Works64 Products | CISA [22:01] TR News Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-02 [22:01] TR Bot Johnson Controls Metasys ADS, ADX, OAS | CISA [22:04] TR News Sounds like Microsoft Windows again, but CISA is cryptic about it: "Vulnerabilities in Drive Composer allow a low-privileged user to create and write to a file anywhere on the file system as system with arbitrary content when the file does not already exist." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-202-01 [22:04] TR Bot ABB Drive Composer, Automation Builder, Mint Workbench | CISA [22:05] TR News "Successful exploitation of these vulnerabilities may allow a remote attacker to cause a denial-of-service condition. A system reset is required for recovery." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-334-02 [22:05] TR Bot Mitsubishi Electric MELSEC and MELIPC Series (Update D) | CISA [22:06] TR News "Improper Restriction of XML External Entity Reference" (Severity 8.5 out of 10) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-207-01 [22:06] TR Bot Inductive Automation Ignition | CISA [22:08] TR News "Authentication Bypass, Use of a Broken or Risky Cryptographic Algorithm" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-207-03 [22:08] TR Bot Honeywell Saia Burgess PG5 PCD | CISA [22:09] TR News "The affected product is vulnerable to an out-of-bounds write that may allow an attacker to overwrite values in memory, causing a denial-of-service condition or potentially bricking the device" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-207-04 [22:09] TR Bot MOXA NPort 5110 | CISA [22:10] TR News Numeric Variable Names With Leading Zeroes | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/07/numeric-variable-names-with-leading-zeroes.html Source: perl | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/07/numeric-variable-names-with-leading-zeroes.html [22:10] TR Bot Variable Names With Leading Zeroes | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] [22:13] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [22:13] TR News VIM Keyboard Shortcuts Cheatsheet - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/ Source: maketecheasier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/cheatsheet/vim-keyboard-shortcuts/ [22:13] TR Bot VIM Keyboard Shortcuts Cheatsheet - Make Tech Easier [22:14] DaemonFC https://yngve.vivaldi.net/sooo-you-say-you-want-to-maintain-a-chromium-fork/ [22:14] TR Bot Yngve's corner | So, you want to maintain a Chromium fork? [22:19] DaemonFC " Vivaldi is only using the 8-week-cycle Extended Stable releases of Chromium" [22:19] DaemonFC 8 weeks is extended stable now.... [22:19] DaemonFC LOL [22:20] TR News OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167698 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/OpenMandriva_Lx_ROME_Rolling_Technical_Preview.shtml #news [22:20] TR Bot OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview | Tux Machines [22:21] TR Bot OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview [22:21] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:24] britney DaemonFC, brave is currently my favourite chromium fork and my primary browser [22:25] britney what stops me from switching to openbsd/netbsd/freebsd? brave, element and steam [22:25] britney i can use discord in pidgin or browser [22:25] britney element could be used in browser as well but i'd rather have a client [22:26] TR News Linux Mint 21 release could be imminent as testing of ISOs begins Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167699 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Linux_Mint_21_release_could_be_imminent_as_testing_of_ISOs_begins.shtml #news [22:26] TR Bot Linux Mint 21 release could be imminent as testing of ISOs begins | Tux Machines [22:26] TR Bot Linux Mint 21 release could be imminent as testing of ISOs begins [22:28] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167700 [22:28] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:30] AdmFubar I'd buy that for a dollar.... https://techxplore.com/news/2022-07-microsoft-blames-economic-woes-profit.html [22:30] TR Bot Microsoft blames economic woes for missing profit targets [22:30] TR News "onciseness is often considered a virtue among hackers and software engineers. FOSS maintainers in particular generally prefer to keep bug reports, questions on mailing lists, discussions in IRC channels, and so on, close to the point and with minimal faff." https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/26/Conciseness.html [22:30] TR Bot Conciseness [22:31] TR News Mirantis Acquires amazee.io to Bring NoOps to K8s - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/mirantis-acquires-amazee-io-to-bring-noops-to-k8s/ Source: containerjournal | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/mirantis-acquires-amazee-io-to-bring-noops-to-k8s/ [22:32] TR Bot Mirantis Acquires amazee.io to Bring NoOps to K8s - Container Journal [22:33] TR News Getting started with Django A Simple CRUD application https://citizix.com/getting-started-with-django-a-simple-crud-application/ [22:33] TR Bot Getting started with Django A Simple CRUD application [22:34] TR News SUSE in Germany flirting with the company that infamously helped Microsoft attack GNU/Linux in Munich https://www.suse.com/c/tech-talks-an-hpe-and-suse-webinar-series-starting-on-aug-10/ [22:34] TR Bot Talks: An HPE and SUSE webinar series starting on Aug 10 | SUSE Communities [22:35] TR News Reaffirming what I said about ICBM nuking Fedora (what's the point when there's CentOS 'streams'... a pile of steam) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/YXENHLWNVIAOYQQ746KZYRIXYQW6E2FA/ [22:35] TR Bot Some spins/labs to be dropped from F37 - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists [22:38] *matey (~matey@nh5qqrwwfgygs.irc) has joined #techrights [22:38] schestowitz[TR2] wb, matey [22:38] techuser hi [22:39] matey hi [22:39] matey Fedora (IBM) Against CC No Rights Reserved [22:39] matey theres a cc no-rights-reserved? [22:39] techuser I wonder if I should invite you to another network so you possibly tell Luis64_gamer than DaemonFC wasn't a bot. If it makes any sense at all. [22:39] britney s/IBM/ICBM [22:39] TR News GraalVM 22.2 is out today https://www.graalvm.org/downloads/ [22:39] matey or theyre against cc0 [22:39] TR Bot GraalVM [22:40] matey cc of course, was part of the coup and ill never support them [22:40] matey the founder was (very) pro-stallman [22:40] matey so imo cc turned their back on what they were founded for too [22:40] matey cc owes its entire existence to stallman [22:40] TR News GraalVM 22.2: Smaller JDK size, improved memory usage, better library support, and more! | by Alina Yurenko | graalvm | Jul, 2022 | Medium https://medium.com/graalvm/graalvm-22-2-smaller-jdk-size-improved-memory-usage-better-library-support-and-more-cb34b5b68ec0 [22:40] TR Bot 22.2: Smaller JDK size, improved memory usage, better library support, and more! | by Alina Yurenko | graalvm | Jul, 2022 | Medium [22:41] matey hypocrites of the first order, worthless [22:41] matey i still like cc0 [22:41] matey maybe in the future no one will care about it-- 0-clause bsd is easier on the cut and paste / roys 14.4 modem he will never use [22:41] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [22:41] britney i used to have a 14.4 modem [22:42] matey me too [22:42] matey when it was still close enough to a reasonable expectation of speed [22:42] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@ecz2t3b69tp9n.irc) has joined #techrights [22:42] britney when i got mine, 28.8 and 33.6 were common [22:42] TR News Omnichannel Enablement: 4 technology success factors | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/omnichannel-enablement-4-technology-success-factors Source: ubuntu | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/omnichannel-enablement-4-technology-success-factors [22:42] matey but any time in the past 20 years, i didnt go lower than 28.8 [22:42] TR Bot Enablement: 4 technology success factors | Ubuntu [22:42] britney my best friend at the time rocked an external 56k us robotics [22:42] schestowitz[TR2] 14.44 here [22:42] matey aur mostly i didnt go below 56k [22:42] *gde35 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [22:42] matey my best friend at the time rocked an external 56k us robotics <- thats what i had [22:43] schestowitz[TR2] *44 isa typo [22:43] matey the cable was insane too-- it was like at least 2m long [22:43] matey maybe more [22:43] britney i miss the days of MS-DOS and Windows 3.11, dialing into BBSes and fidonet [22:43] matey i mean the serial port cable [22:43] schestowitz[TR2] some homes had onyl; one phone socket [22:43] schestowitz[TR2] ours still does [22:43] britney BBSes actually still exist [22:43] matey the power lead was 1.5 m at most [22:43] schestowitz[TR2] IIRC, we used 10 meter cable for the modem [22:43] *gde33 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:44] matey lol [22:44] schestowitz[TR2] and then cannot accept cals for a a bit... good times [22:44] matey do you mean for phone [22:44] schestowitz[TR2] "sorry, matey , yeah... I was on the Internet playing FIFA" [22:44] matey or did you have a 10 m serial port cable [22:44] schestowitz[TR2] telephone cable [22:44] schestowitz[TR2] for the modem [22:44] matey yeah [22:45] schestowitz[TR2] now I have 12m cable for Ethernet [22:45] matey whats nice about a 2-3 m serial port cable [22:45] matey is if you have a wall of low-cost computers (5 or 6) spread out across a wall [22:45] matey and many are old enough to not have ethernet back then [22:46] matey then that cable will connect to any of them without moving the modem [22:46] britney https://bbs.bottomlessabyss.net/ [22:46] TR Bot The Bottomless Abyss BBS [22:46] matey doesnt matter too much, it was nice [22:46] matey its the cable that came with it (used) [22:47] matey its also the first device i tried to get online with gnu/linux with [22:47] matey to no avail [22:47] matey no isp will help with that [22:47] matey aur forums were not too helpful [22:47] matey i would have switched sooner. instead i finally got rid of windows when i finally moved to high speed [22:48] matey by that time most of my machines had ethernet [22:48] matey or even wifi [22:48] matey my first usb wifi didnt work until i tried trisquel [22:48] matey atheros etc etc [22:49] matey i thought if the latest trisquel (back when i liked them) had better driver support than the version of ubuntu i was using [22:49] matey then fully-free cant be so bad [22:49] matey a lot of it was just timing of course. atheros support was a new thing [22:49] matey but when i bought that wifi it didnt work [22:49] matey i had it in a drawer [22:50] matey when it started just working i was like :-O [22:50] phanes is it just me or has this channel significantly grown in size in the last 2 weeks [22:50] matey i might as well have commanded broomsticks to move themselves and fetch pails of water [22:51] matey is it just me or has this channel significantly grown in size in the last 2 weeks <- omg phanes, youre shrinking! [22:51] matey no, its slightly busier [22:51] phanes that's what she said? [22:51] matey hehehe [22:52] TR News Uutils: Cross Platform Linux Core Utils In Rust!?! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZIgve4YpipE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ZIgve4YpipE [22:52] *phanes interrupts this broadcast to remind men my age to get their T levels checked annually, it's real, it happens to most men at around 40, and it can not only save your life, but your marriage too. [22:52] TR Bot Uutils: Cross Platform Linux Core Utils In Rust!?! - Invidious [22:52] matey for what, a drop? [22:52] phanes eh? [22:52] phanes no i mean [22:52] phanes low T can really jam your life up [22:52] phanes and your health [22:53] matey but you mean low testosterone, yes? [22:53] phanes yeah [22:53] techuser what does high or low testosterone do? [22:54] TR News How to install Inkscape on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious

Read more [22:54] TR Bot How to install Inkscape on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious [22:54] TR News How to install Inkscape on Pop!_OS 22.04 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ahvlU2jpvj0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ahvlU2jpvj0 [22:54] phanes approaching 40 and afterwards you want to get bloodwork done yearly. low T will cause you to gain weight, lose muscle, impacts your personality and drive, attention and focus, heart health, and you'll die young. bone mass reduction. injuries take longer to heal. [22:55] phanes it can also cause psychological issues for some men [22:55] phanes mood, well being [22:55] matey not to negate anything youre saying [22:55] phanes also need prostate exams yearly too. its not fun but that'll save your life around that age too. [22:56] matey but would the risk with low t be any worse for a cis man than it would be for a trans woman undergoing hrt? [22:56] phanes matey, i have no idea, i think it depends on androgen sensitivity and hormone balance, im not an endocrinologist [22:56] matey fair enough [22:57] britney my first distro was Redhat 5.2 and I couldn't get dialup internet to work :/ [22:57] phanes hormones play a huge, huge part in almost every aspect of a person's experience of life [22:57] phanes and can even have a big impact on personality [22:57] matey red hat 6, unless you count tomsrtbt and pygmy linux [22:58] phanes not just hormones but shifts in hormone levels and balance of hormone systems [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 26 [23:06] phanes britney, in all fairness ppp was kinda bullshit [23:09] TR News All-time record today. Techrights Gemini capsule 50k page requests for the day. [23:09] britney yeah it was [23:09] britney i'd manage to connect and netscape wouldn't work [23:13] *phebus has quit (Quit: POKE 1,0) [23:16] britney redhat 5.2 came with a game where you had to kill bill gates [23:16] britney xbill [23:19] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights [23:19] britney http://www.xbill.org/ [23:19] TR Bot XBill [23:25] matey someone modified xbill with pictures of lennart poettering to make xlennart [23:25] matey the reason fedora is abandoning cc0 is because it explicitly says the author doesnt waive patent issues [23:25] britney lmao seriously? [23:26] britney matey, and isn't that a good thing that Fedora is doing? [23:26] matey osi and karl fogel made the same argument and this is why they didnt say cc0 met the osd requirements [23:26] matey britney: i dont know [23:26] matey the fsf lists cc0 as gpl compatible [23:26] matey but it looks like the tide is turning on cc0 [23:26] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [23:26] britney gpl compatible doesn't mean you waive patent issues tho [23:27] matey its complicated [23:27] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [23:27] matey cc0 is NOT open source [23:27] matey but it IS free software [23:27] matey because it comes down to whether osi or fsf approves the license [23:27] britney that is complicated [23:27] matey yeah [23:27] matey similarly osi has approved some licenses which are almost certainly non-free [23:27] matey comically so, and its sheer politics [23:28] matey blowing nasa essentially [23:28] matey but this means that maybe [23:28] matey maybe [23:28] matey people who would use cc0 should use 0-clause bsd instead [23:28] matey ive favoured cc0 traditionally [23:28] matey i didnt know about 0-clause bsd then [23:28] matey and it may not have even existed when i first promoted cc0 [23:29] matey personally, im considering a move from cc0 to 0-clause bsd [23:29] matey relicensing my cc0 code [23:29] matey of course people can still use it under cc0 if they want [23:30] matey you cant remove the option of cc0 once youve released it that way [23:30] matey but you can add the option of 0-clause bsd [23:30] matey which is the closest thing i know to cc0 [23:30] phanes OSI needs to be completely removed from the whole equation, it's a trojan horse, its like one of those fake cities they set up in north korea for international visitors [23:31] phanes OSI == Potemkin [23:32] matey OSI needs to be completely removed from the whole equation, it [23:32] matey 100% agree [23:32] TR News Links 26/07/2022: Tails 5.3 and OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/tails-5-3-and-openmandriva-tp/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/26/tails-5-3-and-openmandriva-tp/ [23:32] TR Bot Links 26/07/2022: Tails 5.3 and OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview | Techrights [23:33] matey however, i have always hated karl fogel from the moment i knew he voted against cc0 [23:33] matey and i hate ibm too [23:33] matey but from a strategic standpoint [23:33] matey as in making users free [23:33] matey and making free software work [23:33] matey maybe theyre right about cc0. [23:33] matey maybe theyre full of shit [23:33] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167701 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/programming_2.shtml #news [23:33] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:33] TR Bot Programming Leftovers [23:33] matey too bad we cant ask cc, because cc ARE completely worthless [23:34] matey and theyre certainly not on "our side" more than osi or ibm are [23:34] matey so thats not a factor imo [23:34] matey last time i considered this, the prognosis for cc was bad, but undecidd [23:34] TR News Greenwashing and Openwashing: LF, OSI, and SUSE Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167702 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Greenwashing_and_Openwashing:_LF,_OSI,_and_SUSE.shtml #news [23:34] TR Bot Greenwashing and Openwashing: LF, OSI, and SUSE | Tux Machines [23:34] TR Bot Greenwashing and Openwashing: LF, OSI, and SUSE [23:35] matey today therye pretty much permanently fucked [23:35] matey another org that stands against its own cause more than it stands for it [23:35] matey we should possibly just let them kill themselves [23:35] matey ive always thought the people making too much of cc0 were a bit full of shit [23:36] TR News Debian and Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167703 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Debian_and_CanonicalUbuntu_Leftovers.shtml #news [23:36] TR Bot Debian and Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:36] TR Bot Debian and Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers [23:36] matey but if everyone is going to swallow this fiction-- or if its a valid point-- either way, maybe cc0 isnt worth adding to anything anymore [23:36] matey plus 0-clause bsd is used on some VERY good code [23:36] matey while cc0... is used mostly only on code i like :) [23:36] matey i dont think theres going to be a golden age of cc0 code, ever [23:36] TR News Kernel: Retbleed Woes and Turnip Status Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167704 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/Kernel:_Retbleed_Woes_and_Turnip_Status_Update.shtml #news [23:36] TR Bot Kernel: Retbleed Woes and Turnip Status Update | Tux Machines [23:36] TR Bot Kernel: Retbleed Woes and Turnip Status Update [23:36] matey the fsf approved it something like a decade ago, or more [23:37] matey maybe 0 clause is better [23:37] matey lets show what it looks like [23:37] TR News today's leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167705 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/26/leftovers_2.shtml #news [23:37] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [23:37] matey heres the first line of the 0-clause bsd license: [23:37] TR Bot today's leftovers [23:37] britney https://www.phoronix.com/news/Steam-FreeBSD-2021 [23:37] TR Bot Steam's Linux Build On FreeBSD Is Becoming Increasingly Capable For Gaming - Phoronix [23:37] matey Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted. [23:38] matey thats the only line [23:39] matey heres the cc0 license / pd waiver: http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ [23:39] TR Bot Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal [23:39] matey i dont take any pleasure in agreeing with ibm, or hitler, on anything at all [23:39] matey but if hitler says the sky is blue... [23:40] britney lol [23:40] matey i mean... some things are obvious no matter who says them [23:40] matey if ibm says the sky is blue... [23:40] matey and it does indeed look blue... [23:40] phanes truth is truth. the source is irrelevant. [23:40] matey and loading it in a paint program and looking at the hex value even confirms its blue... [23:40] matey yeah [23:41] matey (the last one is irrelevant because of that fucking dress) [23:41] TR News "this is awesome, both image search and regular search" Gemini has IMAGE search now. gemini://station.martinrue.com/acidus/7454a24005a24f4bba57b6e685cb09c2 [23:41] matey (no, not THAT blue dress. the one that looks gold to some people) [23:41] matey s/irrelevant/relevant/ [23:41] matey you can confirm something is blueish by looking at the hex triplet [23:42] TR News "Xfce at some point adopted the Leafpad codebase and began improving upon it as their Mousepad editor. Mousepad initially only added tabs, and then syntax highlighting. And then, after a while, a funny thing happened" gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/vapad_0.1.0_prerelease.gmi [23:42] matey even if it looks gold to some people [23:43] matey and people who love putting their shit in the public domain can do that with cc0 [23:43] matey then add 0-clause in a single line [23:43] matey i use gpl3 sometimes, agpl sometimes [23:43] matey for cc0 stuff i think i might start doing 0-clause bsd [23:47] matey the fact that cc are traitors could just make this more fun [23:48] matey the fact that 0-clause is used more often for serious code than cc0 is worth noting twice [23:48] matey 0-clause does NOT put anything in the public domain [23:48] matey you can actually do that with a second, separate, line [23:49] matey simply put a line that dedicates the work to the public domain [23:49] matey ive been promoting cc0 for years and years and years [23:50] matey maybe, fuck it. not everything we thought was great turned out that way [23:50] matey like i said, i dont think there will ever be a golden age for cc0 works [23:50] matey great idea, maybe 0-clause has accomplished more [23:57] britney what does cc0 actually do?