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● Nov 26
[00:12]	schestowitz	Re: The Cloud
[00:12]	schestowitz	> Didn't someone already do some joke about s/the cloud/my ass/?
[00:12]	schestowitz	> 
[00:12]	schestowitz	> MinceR
[00:12]	schestowitz	> storing rectoscopy images in the "cloud" might be more effective
[00:12]	schestowitz	> 
[00:12]	schestowitz	> 
[00:12]	schestowitz	> *Don't lose your bookmarks! Store them for easy access from any machine
[00:12]	schestowitz	> in your ass!*(TM)
[00:12]	schestowitz	> 
[00:12]	schestowitz	> "Jim, do you have a copy of that slideshow from last week?"
[00:12]	schestowitz	> 
[00:12]	schestowitz	> "Yeah Steve, I put a copy in my ass!"
[00:13]	schestowitz	> Great. Another important topic - "exploited devs". Could be interesting research results. I have a few personal stories of non techies attempting to use devs for their personal agendas. Could mean so much more "exploited devs".
[00:13]	schestowitz	I look forward to any stories about that...
[00:13]	schestowitz	Zemlin is one: http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/the-linux-racket/
[00:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Exceeds $100,000,000 in Revenue and Jim Zemlin Now Pays Himself About a Million Dollars a Year While His Foundation Operates at a Loss of $732,261 | Techrights
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[00:59]	MinceR	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Enr8L2IXUAMheCg.jpg:orig
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[01:23]	smnthermes	http://techrights.org/2020/11/20/open-letter-mogzagain/
[01:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Letter to Mogzagain (No Worries) | Techrights
[01:23]	smnthermes	Oliva = lxoliva?
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[02:16]	CrystalMath	smnthermes: idk, but he's on IRC as lxo
[02:16]	CrystalMath	online now
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[05:38]	schestowitz	smnthermes: yes
[05:41]		-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ZDNet and Linux often provide a good chance for a laugh su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144766 [https://pleroma.site/objects/37aecbad-711e-424d-83cb-906145ffd172]
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[05:44]		-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Multimedia-Oriented AV Linux Distro Rebased on MX Linux, Adds New and Updated Audio Tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144763 [https://pleroma.site/objects/252f6c66-7d4d-4c53-8b4d-60b4e260e0a1]
[05:45]		-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Armbian Linux for ARM Devices Switches to Linux Kernel 5.9, Supports Ubuntu 20.10 [https://pleroma.site/objects/51262d73-017d-49b0-ac0a-7751a5794915]
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[05:46]	DaemonFC[m]	https://www.tomsguide.com/news/lenovo-thinkbook-15-gen-2
[05:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomsguide.com | Lenovo ThinkBook 15 Gen 2: Release date, price, specs and wireless earbuds | Tom's Guide
[05:46]	DaemonFC[m]	I wonder if these run Linux okay.
[05:46]	DaemonFC[m]	Says it comes with Windows 10 Pro, but Lenovo has been putting these on a really good sale.
[05:48]		-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Blender 2.91 Released with Better Cloth Sculpting, Faster Video Encoding and Decoding su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144765 [https://pleroma.site/objects/61a3c70f-c940-41fd-ae1a-f2ea57c36381]
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[07:29]	schestowitz	vZS1: I have given a friend control of our IPFS node as well
[07:30]	schestowitz	so now there are 3 of us
[07:31]	schestowitz	vZS1: 
[07:31]	schestowitz	To recap: 
[07:31]	schestowitz	update-index.sh is the script that will 
[07:31]	schestowitz	1) add the latest irc and bulletin files
[07:31]	schestowitz	2) update the indexes (external shell script)
[07:31]	schestowitz	part (2) will ask you for the Techrights password (to upload the indexes), maybe we'll know you well enough in due course to allow direct server access.
[07:31]	schestowitz	For now, that's it! :-)
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[08:02]	schestowitz	https://www.drupal.org/sa-core-2020-013
[08:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.drupal.org/sa-core-2020-013 )
[08:02]	schestowitz	https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2020-28949
[08:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2020-28949
[08:02]	schestowitz	https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2020-28948
[08:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2020-28948
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[11:20]	schestowitz	zoobab: any updates?
[11:20]	schestowitz	I checked news for "unitary patent"
[11:20]	schestowitz	this morning
[11:20]	schestowitz	nothing relevant
[11:20]	schestowitz	in English at least
[11:21]	schestowitz	I do, however, see 14 decent comments on UPC in Kluwer (comments section only)
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[15:34]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/heaven-3
[15:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Heaven
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[15:45]	XRevan86	https://scotthelme.co.uk/introducing-another-free-ca-as-an-alternative-to-lets-encrypt/
[15:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scotthelme.co.uk | Introducing another free CA as an alternative to Let's Encrypt
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[15:52]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/20082025
[15:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4835857)
[15:57]	XRevan86	Heh, buypass's root CA was issued in 2010.
[15:58]	MinceR	i hope it didn't expire in 90 days
[15:58]	XRevan86	5 years older than ISRG's
[15:58]	XRevan86	MinceR: Funny.
[15:59]	XRevan86	buypass's is for 30 years, ISRG's is for 20 years.
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[16:01]	XRevan86	ZeroSSL is a bit of a mystery. Their website uses Cloudflare's cert.
[16:04]	XRevan86	Gotcha, app.zerossl.com uses their cert.
[16:06]	XRevan86	So they have a CA cert issued in 2020-01 for 10 years, it's cross-signed by USERTrust, issued in 2010 for 28 years.
[16:11]	XRevan86	So at least as far as compatibility with older CA bundles goes, these two do fine.
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[16:16]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20080768
[16:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4809952)
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[16:37]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/20081943
[16:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4833940)
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[17:00]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2008197
[17:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4832986)
[17:58]	DaemonFC[m]	Is there much difference between a 250 and 300 nit screen?
[17:59]	DaemonFC[m]	It says "anti-glare" on both.
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[18:05]	DaemonFC[m]	It does say it's an IPS screen.
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[18:05]	DaemonFC[m]	So that's good. I've used TN displays on low end laptops before and it was awful.
[18:06]	DaemonFC[m]	Also guessing the "nits" rating is with the brightness all the way on, which is going to turn it into a gas guzzler, so I never do that anyway.
[18:07]	DaemonFC[m]	I'm considering going back down to FHD 1920 x 1080.
[18:08]	DaemonFC[m]	Nobody really ever optimized for higher resolutions and it seems to just mostly waste battery and cause the graphics card to stutter.
[18:08]	MinceR	indeed
[18:08]	DaemonFC[m]	I don't really want to go lower than FHD, because everything seems to be well supported on that.
[18:09]	DaemonFC[m]	The Intel Xe graphics say they're twice as fast as the gen 10, which were already quite a bit faster than the Iris 540 in this thing.
[18:09]	DaemonFC[m]	And the CPU is 5 years newer, and has double the cores and twice as much L2 cache.
[18:10]	DaemonFC[m]	So it should seriously outgun this thing.
[18:10]	DaemonFC[m]	Maybe not by "more than double", but noticeably. 
[18:10]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Think it would be a waste of $42 to bump up from the IPS anti-glare 250 nit display to the 300 nit?
[18:11]	DaemonFC[m]	I doubt that it's worth trying to save like $40 going with an i5 vs and i7, even though both do have the same graphics adapter and hyperthreading now. 
[18:11]	DaemonFC[m]	I'm still looking for performance numbers on this.
[18:11]	DaemonFC[m]	It seems the big difference between them is the L2 cache, which the i5 part has 8 MB instead of 12. 
[18:12]	DaemonFC[m]	Same clock rate.
[18:13]	MinceR	DaemonFC[m]: depends. i suspect it would only matter in bright sunlight
[18:13]	DaemonFC[m]	It looks like the overall benchmark difference is well within spitting distance at this point.
[18:13]	MinceR	(outdoors)
[18:13]	schestowitz	zoobab: http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/11/26/german-bundestag-approves-legislation-to-ratify-the-unified-patent-court-agreement/ remains to be seen how many complaints are now filed with FCC
[18:13]	DaemonFC[m]	https://www.notebookcheck.net/i5-1135G7-vs-i7-1165G7_12238_12118.247596.0.html
[18:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | German Bundestag approves legislation to ratify the Unified Patent Court Agreement - Kluwer Patent Blog
[18:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.notebookcheck.net | Intel Core i5-1135G7 vs Intel Core i7-1165G7
[18:13]	schestowitz	Bristows telling it like it's all done, but it is not
[18:13]	DaemonFC[m]	But that's maybe what you expect when Intel panics over AMD getting better and starts unlocking their higher end features on a mid tier SKU.
[18:14]	DaemonFC[m]	Also interesting is this tremendous GPU upgrade just as Apple leaves.
[18:15]	DaemonFC[m]	An integrated GPU with an open source driver is benchmarking almost as well as a middle of the road Nvidia card that has a proprietary driver and lots of glitches.
[18:15]	DaemonFC[m]	That's pretty noteworthy for a lot of reasons.
[18:16]	DaemonFC[m]	Hopefully this thing starves Nvidia to death on the low to middle end of the mobile graphics and the low end desktops.
[18:17]	DaemonFC[m]	It's already having a big influence on OEMs as we see with the newest Lenovo and HP products.
[18:17]	DaemonFC[m]	They get a GPU that performs well when they pick an Intel CPU now. That will allow them to raise margins and lower prices to consumers and cut Nvidia out of the deal.
[18:18]	DaemonFC[m]	Intel started to get serious about graphics a few years ago, and the Iris 540 was pretty not terrible when I bought this laptop.
[18:19]	DaemonFC[m]	It ran Grand Theft Auto V at a stable 30 fps and maybe a bit more at 1366 x 768.
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[18:19]	DaemonFC[m]	A huge leap forward from "Don't use Intel unless you want to pitch the computer for opening Word.".
[18:20]	DaemonFC[m]	What's interesting is that the i7 came out ahead on single core Cinebench, but on multi-core it was overtaken by its cheaper i5 companion SKU.
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[18:21]	DaemonFC[m]	They're running benchmarks on Windows 10, and while the process scheduler seems to have improved, Windows still isn't all that efficient with multi-threaded workloads. 
[18:22]	DaemonFC[m]	My guess is that something is going on here where having more L2 cache is causing more cache misses in some cases, and imposing a penalty vs fetching the data from system memory,
[18:24]	DaemonFC[m]	Moving down the line, a bizarre pattern continues. The i7 wins in single core performance and is beaten by the i5 in multi-threaded performance.
[18:24]	DaemonFC[m]	The i5 even manages to be 20% faster on HEVC encoding with x65?
[18:24]	DaemonFC[m]	*x265
[18:24]	DaemonFC[m]	How is this even possible?
[18:25]	DaemonFC[m]	Scrolling some more, and the i7 doesn't really start to kick the i5's ass on anything until you get down to the 3dmark physics stuff.
[18:26]	DaemonFC[m]	Now, Geekbench shows the i7 racking up some big wins, and I think Geekbench is what Intel cites for performance claims.
[18:26]	DaemonFC[m]	So maybe the test are rigged. 
[18:27]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: The interesting thing here is that people always ask why FLAC and WavPack (maybe others) don't have built in multi-threading support.
[18:28]	DaemonFC[m]	And no matter how many times you tell people "Because most Intel CPUs do better on single thread and just launching multiple single-threaded encoder processes." the question appears to keep coming up anyway.
[18:28]	MinceR	who cares about intel cpus though? :>
[18:28]	DaemonFC[m]	And on Windows 10, you really want that behavior, but it holds at the CPU level itself too.
[18:29]	MinceR	then again, if you're decoding, you probably don't want a system so weak that one core can't handle it
[18:29]	DaemonFC[m]	Apple keeps saying "The most advanced desktop OS ever.".
[18:29]	MinceR	and if you're encoding, you probably have multiple files you can encode in parallel
[18:29]	DaemonFC[m]	I think they've made such a fucking awful bastardized version of unix, that even Windows 10 fares better than that.
[18:29]	DaemonFC[m]	It makes Windows 10 look downright competent, even.
[18:30]	MinceR	they've made a version of crapOS on top of the ruins of 2 unix systems
[18:30]	MinceR	there was no intention of making it work like unix in any way
[18:30]	DaemonFC[m]	It seems that Microsoft has gone on a cleaning spree since last I really looked. Not saying much, but they've removed or slated to be removed a bunch of two decade old stuff that really has no business being there anymore.
[18:31]	DaemonFC[m]	I don't know if they got around to the Windows 2000/XP style graphics drivers yet.
[18:31]	DaemonFC[m]	They should really remove that right now. That has to be a festering mess full of security holes and lulz.
[18:31]	DaemonFC[m]	And I cannot seriously believe anyone is running Windows 10 on something that came out in 2005. 
[18:32]	DaemonFC[m]	They need to completely remove the Microsoft Management Console and all its snap-ins. Not just hide them, remove them.
[18:32]	DaemonFC[m]	They even admit that they're not compatible with US federal law from 1992 on accessibility to people who are disabled.
[18:33]	DaemonFC[m]	I can't imagine the kind of management that authorized so many different terminals that are not compatible vs. extending cmd.
[18:34]	DaemonFC[m]	Honestly, instead of this PowerShell mess they should have just bought 4NT and slapped it in there. It worked great. People loved it.
[18:34]	DaemonFC[m]	You can use 4DOS as a command interpreter in FreeDOS. I do that in a virtual machine all the time, still.
[18:35]	DaemonFC[m]	Anyway, back to the benchmarks.
[18:35]	DaemonFC[m]	Mozilla Kraken was the same between the two.
[18:36]	DaemonFC[m]	Average Benchmarks Intel Core i5-1135G7 100% n=21
[18:36]	DaemonFC[m]	Average Benchmarks Intel Core i7-1165G7 104% n=21
[18:36]	DaemonFC[m]	I'm going to have to look further into this, but 4% overall (and trading paint throughout the tests) is really not a headline. It's within the error margin.
[18:38]	DaemonFC[m]	Now, I suppose in real world usage, which is what Geekbench claims to simulate, if that holds true, the difference might be compelling.
[18:38]	DaemonFC[m]	But Intel "sponsoring" them, that kind of....you know, something's rotten in the state of Denmark.
[18:40]	MinceR	i thought compatibility was a major selling point for Backdoors
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[18:43]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: So, am I going to go crazy with a IPS anti-glare 250 nit screen?
[18:43]	DaemonFC[m]	Or is 300 nits worth another $46 bump?
[18:43]	DaemonFC[m]	Whatever I buy, I'm going to be stuck with it for another 5 years, so...
[18:43]	MinceR	\_()_/
[18:43]	MinceR	i suspect there are greater differences
[18:44]	MinceR	so it would probably best to look for tests
[18:44]	MinceR	s/be/be be/
[18:44]	MinceR	notebookcheck usually tests displays pretty thoroughly
[18:46]	psydroid	my laptops are from 2016 and they seem just as fast now as they were back then, if not faster
[18:46]	psydroid	so if nothing breaks, they should last for another 5 years
[18:50]	DaemonFC[m]	https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/laptop-screen-guide
[18:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.laptopmag.com | Laptop Screen Guide: Resolution, Refresh Rate, Color and Brightness | Laptop Mag
[18:50]	DaemonFC[m]	Says 250 nits should be okay, but 300+ is better for outdoor usage. 
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[18:51]	MinceR	maybe you can find something about the particular displays you're comparing
[18:51]	MinceR	it's entirely possible that they have other differences
[18:52]	DaemonFC[m]	https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-is-nit-of-screen-brightness/
[18:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | What Is a Nit of Screen Brightness and How Many Do You Need? - Make Tech Easier
[18:52]	DaemonFC[m]	Well, Lenovo has like 6 or 7 configurations.
[18:52]	DaemonFC[m]	But the only one that offers the 300 nit display is the one that's maxed out in every other spec.
[18:52]	DaemonFC[m]	I'm looking at the Intel Tiger Lake version of the THinkbook 15 gen2
[18:53]	DaemonFC[m]	I've had problems with Lenovo in the past on software and firmware, but the hardware is pretty good in my experience, with even their lower end stuff doing okay if not spectacular on that front.
[18:54]	DaemonFC[m]	If they figure 95% of their customers are going to buy one with the 250 nit display, that's probably an indication that it's "good enough" on average to not piss them off and have people complaining on Reddit and stuff that they can't even see the damned thing.
[18:55]	DaemonFC[m]	I've used laptops that were 200 nits if that, and hated them outdoors and even indoors sometimes, but those tend to be Chromebooks with TN display and no anti-glare coating.
[18:55]	DaemonFC[m]	In other words, they're scrapping every extra to hit a price point that people are going to pay for a netbook.
[18:56]	DaemonFC[m]	If cpumark is any indicator of WavPack encoding performance, the Tiger Lake series should just tear through them compared with this laptop.
[18:57]	DaemonFC[m]	I like to brute force to get the best compression possible, and it takes sometimes 10-12 minutes to get through a FLAC>WV transcode on my i7-6560U.
[18:57]	DaemonFC[m]	Now with this thing, I'm guessing that it will get through the same workload in 1-2 minutes.
[18:57]	DaemonFC[m]	Not only will it do that, but I might actually be able to do another task while I have that one running.
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[19:00]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Someone on Walmart said that they loaded Gentoo on this thing's predecessor and it just worked.
[19:00]	DaemonFC[m]	Have a screenshot of it running GNOME.
[19:00]	DaemonFC[m]	It comes with Windows 10 Professional.
[19:00]	DaemonFC[m]	I might use it like that long enough to scope out which Linux distributions seems to work best in the live environment.
[19:01]	DaemonFC[m]	But it's getting to a short list of which Linux distributions even work at all anymore, thanks to IBM completely wrecking Fedora and riddling it with bugs, and if you try to use KDE, may God have mercy on your soul. (Figuratively speaking.)
[19:02]	DaemonFC[m]	I think that's mjg59's current employer.
[19:02]	DaemonFC[m]	They really ran Fedora onto the rocks it's got so many embarrassing bugs and they don't even care. 
[19:02]	DaemonFC[m]	Like, it's subtle at first.
[19:03]	DaemonFC[m]	But they're so sloppy that even if it seems to work fine when you installed it, they'll break something major at some point in the middle of the release.
[19:03]	DaemonFC[m]	And it may stay broken for a long time, and if they ever fix it, they'll just break something else.
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[19:04]	DaemonFC[m]	They say that all of the systemd hangs the system on shutdown, and it's really the fault of a service dont'cha know......
[19:04]	DaemonFC[m]	But I never had shutdown problems before systemd and now I have them on every computer that's running a recent Linux distribution.
[19:05]	DaemonFC[m]	The fact that there are only two distributions that seem to care if everything is working okay and they're doing 99% of their work trying not to package systemd really says everything.
[19:05]	DaemonFC[m]	And then even more of this Windows 10 mentality of forced updates and shit is coming down on top of us like a sack of bricks. 
[19:06]	DaemonFC[m]	It's all so radical that every type of distribution has taken a giant leap back in quality.
[19:06]	DaemonFC[m]	The LTS releases are maybe as stable as a Fedora or a 6 month Ubuntu used to be.
[19:06]	DaemonFC[m]	The rapid releases are as stable as Debian Sid or Fedora Rawhide once were. 
[19:07]	DaemonFC[m]	The takeover, the burrowing. I'm not sure there will be compelling reasons to even try to switch your system over from Windows 10 soon.
[19:08]	DaemonFC[m]	They're on a mission so slowly corrupt Linux like some kind of insidious radioactive fallout that's constantly landing. It's like Fedora is fucking Chernobyl and all you do by installing something else is get a little further downrange from it.
[19:08]	psydroid	Sometimes it takes 30-60 seconds to start up and 2 minutes to shut down the system on Debian, whereas OpenBSD starts up in 15 seconds and shuts down in even less than that
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[19:10]	psydroid	So yes, time to kill the fat and sick pig because there isn't going to be anything to heal it
[19:11]	DaemonFC[m]	Lenovo says up to 9 hours batter on the Yoga 900.
[19:11]	DaemonFC[m]	(Testing is based on display brightness set at 200 nits and WiFi off.)
[19:12]	DaemonFC[m]	Yes, just like most people will use it, to be sure.
[19:13]	DaemonFC[m]	Okay, the Yoga 900 display was 300 nits.
[19:13]	DaemonFC[m]	I find it to be sufficiently bright.
[19:13]	DaemonFC[m]	In a dark room, half brightness is fine.
[19:14]	DaemonFC[m]	With some indirect sunlight, still fine.
[19:14]	DaemonFC[m]	Might go outside for a moment,
[19:18]	DaemonFC[m]	I don't think I've ever used this thing at full brightness
[19:18]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Also, never used the touchscreen, really.
[19:18]	DaemonFC[m]	Those seem to be pretty gimmicky.
[19:23]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Now there's the fun part.
[19:23]	DaemonFC[m]	Lenovo wants to sell you all kinds of antivirus software and Microsoft 365, and extended warranties.
[19:23]	DaemonFC[m]	This is like auto dealer finance department stuff.
[19:23]	DaemonFC[m]	They make so little on the laptop, but they can make a killing on "extras", and many of them are unnecessary.
[19:23]	DaemonFC[m]	Or very overpriced, or both.
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[19:24]	DaemonFC[m]	You can get warranty up to 5 years, but you have to consider what it costs vs what's the remaining value of the laptop and what the warranty really covers, and how likely something is to actually fail.
[19:25]	psydroid	People already pay enough for their hardware, so maybe they should just demand lower prices from Intel and MS and sell an honest product without spyware and adware included
[19:25]	DaemonFC[m]	You'd have to add 15.5% of the laptop's price to get an extended warranty going out 5 years.
[19:25]	DaemonFC[m]	And it's very unlikely to have a major malfunction within 3-4 years of purchasing it. 
[19:26]	DaemonFC[m]	By that time, it's got so little remaining value that even if it's in excellent condition a pawn shop or Best Buy would be like "Oh just trade it in for an $80 gift card.".
[19:27]	DaemonFC[m]	It's a gamble, but like any extended warranty, if they weren't making more than they pay out, they would never offer it in the first place.
[19:27]	DaemonFC[m]	You gotta remember, that this warranty is still just parts and labor and shipping.
[19:27]	DaemonFC[m]	And they'll try to screw you by saying it's not covered or the damage was wear and tear. 
[19:28]	DaemonFC[m]	Then take a look at this shit.
[19:28]	DaemonFC[m]	You can buy a subscription to "Lenovo Smart Performance Software" for a little over $10 per year for up to 5 years.
[19:29]	DaemonFC[m]	So, what the fuck is that, even?
[19:29]	DaemonFC[m]	Sounds like the car dealership "Paint protection package" to me.
[19:29]	DaemonFC[m]	You know, it's rustproofed at the factory insofar as that's even possible, but the dealer kindly offers to charge you for it again.
[19:31]	DaemonFC[m]	Then you can subscribe to Microsoft's "cloud" office software for $100 a year, which you could do after you bought the system for less (because even if you do want this instead of LibreOffice, you can buy discounted Office 365 gift cards on sites that buy them from someone else and use arbitrage to sell them to use at less than face value).
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[19:32]	DaemonFC[m]	Then you can buy a $26 Lenovo bluetooth mouse.
[19:33]	DaemonFC[m]	Amazon Warehouse Deals has a Microsoft bluetooth mouse for $6.99.
[19:36]	DaemonFC[m]	Windows or Linux, don't buy an Intel platform where they farmed anything out to another company.
[19:36]	DaemonFC[m]	Especially the graphics.
[19:36]	DaemonFC[m]	Linux never worked right with those to begin with and they ended up marooning Windows 10 users on an unsupported build less than 2 years in.
[19:36]	DaemonFC[m]	Ouch.
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[19:57]	DaemonFC[m]	It seems like this should be a solid choice for a while.
[19:57]	DaemonFC[m]	I'm glad I looked into this more and didn't get the Thinkpad X1 Carbon.
[19:58]	DaemonFC[m]	The CPU part wouldn't have been that much slower, but the graphics would only perform half as well.
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[20:13]	DaemonFC[m]	Okay, I just ordered.
[20:14]	schestowitz	shopping holidays
[20:14]	schestowitz	they try to copy them here
[20:14]	schestowitz	even though we have no Thanksgivign
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[20:17]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: They had Nvidia SKUs, but honestly at this point you're just adding cost and complexity.
[20:18]	DaemonFC[m]	Intel's integrated graphics are trading paint with the Nvidia discrete parts, and that's a totally foreign component to the CPU and requires the Nvidia driver too.
[20:18]	DaemonFC[m]	We've seen all sorts of unpleasantness over the years on Nvidia laptop parts, and that goes triple on Linux.
[20:19]	DaemonFC[m]	And so I'm happy that it's finally no longer even arguable on performance to go with an Nvidia chip, and that was one of the arguments in #fedora that I had.
[20:19]	DaemonFC[m]	I was like, "Why are you doing the heavy lifting for Nvidia on laptops when it adds more problems than it's worth?".
[20:19]	DaemonFC[m]	And they go "Oh, there's just no avoiding them these days.". Defeatism, and not even remotely true. 
[20:21]	DaemonFC[m]	I didn't have any cards with enough of a limit to buy that laptop, but Lenovo lets you split the order between cards.
[20:21]	DaemonFC[m]	So I figured out how to go around my limits and get my 2% credit card points anyway, and then iBotta said they'd give me another $10 on top of that.
[20:21]	DaemonFC[m]	Also, it appears that Lenovo's website only charges the Illinois sales tax, not local.
[20:22]	DaemonFC[m]	So you pay 6% tax if you buy direct from them and if you walk into a store in Gurnee or somewhere, it's like 9.
[20:22]	DaemonFC[m]	So buying direct might save you $20-30 on a laptop even if it's the same price as one in a store, and you can find it in a store. 
[20:23]	DaemonFC[m]	Fuck the government, they get enough. They get all of it eventually. You know, there is an inefficiency in raising taxes.
[20:23]	DaemonFC[m]	Because once you do to a certain point, people figure out loopholes which wouldn't even be worth the bother, or they factor it in and tamp down their spending, which lowers the need for labor and stuff, and so you lose payroll and income tax. 
[20:25]	DaemonFC[m]	Like, if Wisconsin charges 5% and Illinois charges 9%, and you live right on the road that separates the two states, and if you go to the Best Buy in Illinois and pay 9 and the Best Buy in Wisconsin and pay 5, then where do you go, assuming gas mileage is not going to be an overriding factor?
[20:25]	DaemonFC[m]	Well, you know....A $1,000 laptop, you save $40 by going to the one in Wisconsin instead.
[20:26]	DaemonFC[m]	And then Illinois loses 100% of their sales tax revenue and Wisconsin gets all of theirs, even though Wisconsin doesn't provide you any government services.
[20:27]	DaemonFC[m]	Then people avoiding tax pile across the border and there's more jobs and more corporate, income, and payroll taxes for Wisconsin.
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[20:41]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: The Apple M1 is a big mistake.
[20:41]	DaemonFC[m]	You know, even their own fanboys will buy one and then realize there's no way to run Windows applications that they've become accustomed to.
[20:41]	DaemonFC[m]	Maybe Parallels with some really sloooooooow CPU emulation.
[20:42]	DaemonFC[m]	And we're officially back to that, when Intel VT could run a hypervisor and emulation performance drag was pretty minimal.
[20:42]	DaemonFC[m]	But they have fanboys who eat shit and grin, so we'll see.
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[20:43]	MinceR	it has the logo, so it's perfect for them
[20:43]	DaemonFC[m]	OS X has pretty much always ranked below even Windows in my opinion due to its various practical problems.
[20:43]	DaemonFC[m]	They've also had bugs and security holes that would even be embarrassing by Microsoft standards.
[20:45]	DaemonFC[m]	Discretionary Access Controls that can be completely bypassed by another local user making a file system snapshot.
[20:45]	DaemonFC[m]	Just hit enter a bunch of times until sudo elevates you. Etc, etc.
[20:46]	DaemonFC[m]	This is the kind of embarrassing fodder that nobody who tries to label themselves a "hacker" would ever be caught dead with.
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[20:46]	DaemonFC[m]	But JWZ lost his mind a long time ago. He rants about how unstable and terrible OS X is, but Stockholm Syndrome has him banning people who ask why he uses it then.
[20:46]	MinceR	lol
[20:47]	DaemonFC[m]	He yelled about GNOME closing his bugs because there was a new release and nobody ever bothered to figure out if the bug was still there. Then Apple did the exact same thing 15 years later.
[20:48]	DaemonFC[m]	Almost the same blurb too. Something like "We closed your bug because the amazing new "insert version number" is here. Try that out and get back to us if it's still doing it.".
[20:49]	DaemonFC[m]	So like, in 2019 they never investigated a bug from 2004, never bothered to figure out if it was still there across 15 years, and now they want him to go play with it and file another bug that will be ignored until 2034 when he gets the same email.
[20:51]	DaemonFC[m]	And there's no telling how many systems and how many thousands of dollars he paid them along the way, when they don't even investigate, much less try to fix, any of their bugs.
[20:52]	DaemonFC[m]	Lenovo be all like "Would you like the 5 year accidental damage extended warranty for only $213?".
[20:52]	DaemonFC[m]	Have ya tried not spilling coffee on it? Just throwing that out there. Something to think about.
[20:53]	DaemonFC[m]	I never bought the extended warranty on this thing. I chewed through a keyboard and managed to find one for $40 that got pried out of the same model.
[20:54]	DaemonFC[m]	The 2-in-1 devices tend to have much less durable keyboard modules than the proper laptop models do, which i curious when the regular laptops cost less.
[20:55]	DaemonFC[m]	MARISOL managed to do the exact same thing on that Macbook that time forgot that she told Mandy to use after promising to get him a laptop.
[20:55]	DaemonFC[m]	He was still using it while Chrome was like "THIS ISN'T SUPPORTED!!!" every time he opened it. 
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[20:56]	DaemonFC[m]	There were like 4 keys missing and you just had to push the plastic button where the key fell out.
[20:56]	DaemonFC[m]	Premium components.
[20:57]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: I had to rescue my cat just now.
[20:58]	DaemonFC[m]	She tried to climb the cat tree, fell over, and ended up grabbing hold of it with the front paws while danging into the cat hammock below.
[20:59]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: I haven't really heard much in the way of complaints about Microsoft bumping Retarded FS to a more expensive SKU.
● Nov 26
[21:00]	DaemonFC[m]	I don't think anyone noticed or cared. In many ways, it was a dumbed down NTFS .
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[21:02]	DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: Says my new laptop is WiFi 6 capable. The modem/router I'm using is pretty old but still fast enough for Comcast's basic tier.
[21:02]	DaemonFC[m]	So I saw no reason to replace it. The tier is 25 Mbps and the router is operating in "224 Mbps mode" from what I can recall.
[21:03]	DaemonFC[m]	So I don't really think WiFi 6 is a selling point for my use case.
[21:03]	DaemonFC[m]	A more likely selling point would be the modem failing or Comcast telling me it won't be supported.
[21:05]	DaemonFC[m]	So it's still almost 10x faster than my internet package and more than sufficient for any sort of local networking I'm likely to do.
[21:06]	DaemonFC[m]	I actually did see a lot more complaints about Microsoft getting rid of Home Server and Media Center Edition SKUs than anything else. 
[21:06]	DaemonFC[m]	Lots of complaints from people still using XP, and that's ongoing if you can even believe it.
[21:06]	DaemonFC[m]	I was 17 when that was released!
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[21:09]	DaemonFC[m]	I suspect that Linux will probably run on this new laptop.
[21:09]	DaemonFC[m]	The trick will be to figure out what release of which distribution runs best. 
[21:10]	DaemonFC[m]	It's all fairly new hardware, so I think I'll start with Kubuntu 20.10 and see what that's like.
[21:10]	schestowitz	[20:55] <DaemonFC[m]> He was still using it while Chrome was like "THIS ISN'T SUPPORTED!!!" every time he opened it. 
[21:10]	DaemonFC[m]	I don't know if there's a spin of 20.04 with a Hardware Stack yet.
[21:10]	schestowitz	so put crouton on it
[21:10]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: A Mac?
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[21:10]	DaemonFC[m]	It was a "late 2008 Macbook".
[21:11]	schestowitz	toss it in the can
[21:11]	DaemonFC[m]	Because those are all MARISOL, her royal hineyness, ever buys. 
[21:12]	DaemonFC[m]	Oh, by the time they're 3 years old Apple doesn't care if it works anymore, so they just go ahead and maroon you even if the laptop hasn't broken down yet.
[21:12]	DaemonFC[m]	That was $3,000 well spent. 
[21:13]	DaemonFC[m]	Lenovo doesn't actually have the AMD Ryzen 4000 series version of the Thinkbook 15 out yet.
[21:13]	DaemonFC[m]	So by the time they could get them in and available to order, the Black Friday coupon would be gone.
[21:13]	DaemonFC[m]	So I guess I'll see how Tiger Lake works out.
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[21:14]	DaemonFC[m]	Reading about what improved each year between Skylake and this.
[21:15]	DaemonFC[m]	Looks like Kaby Lake (7th gen) was just a small clock speed boost and some more video decode profiles. So, a souped up Skylake. Otherwise identical.
[21:15]	DaemonFC[m]	If I had waited a few months and bought that, the HEVC and 4K video decode wouldn't have been so aggravating.
[21:16]	psydroid	Less heat and a bit more speed are the only advantages
[21:16]	DaemonFC[m]	"Kaby Lake has a critical flaw where some short loops may cause unpredictable system behavior. The issue can be fixed if the motherboard manufacturer releases a BIOS update with the fix.[32][33]"
[21:16]	DaemonFC[m]	Yeah, I'm sure Lenovo got right on that. Pfft.
[21:17]	psydroid	Skylake gets so hot that I can never keep my laptop in my lap
[21:17]	DaemonFC[m]	Oh I know.
[21:17]	DaemonFC[m]	It sounds like an Apache helicopter and burns your lap when it's running at full speed.
[21:18]	psydroid	I even use it with an external keyboard and mouse as well as a TB3 dock, so I don't actually have to touch the laptop itself
[21:18]	DaemonFC[m]	Intel actually had to release new software that only worked on Windows, which limited the performance if it thought the laptop was on your lap.
[21:18]	DaemonFC[m]	Then it didn't work in Linux and always ran the system throttled.
[21:18]	DaemonFC[m]	Because without instructions from that software, the system firmware defaulted to limited performance.
[21:18]	DaemonFC[m]	I think that was the "less heat" part of Kaby Lake.
[21:19]	DaemonFC[m]	So less heat and only lose 40% of your performance all the time no matter what. Woohoo.
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[21:19]	psydroid	Ah, that makes sense
[21:19]	DaemonFC[m]	I think Linux did get a driver for that eventually.
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[21:28]	DaemonFC[m]	Someone used my Celeron-based desktop with Windows XP in 2004 and remarked about how much faster it was than his Mac.
[21:28]	CrystalMath	https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20a87_4g15.pdf
[21:28]	CrystalMath	Gorsuch never disappoints me
[21:28]	DaemonFC[m]	It seems that Microsoft backed off from the aggressiveness of Product Activation in Windows 10.
[21:28]	CrystalMath	in July, he voted right to defend LGBTQ+ rights everywhere
[21:28]	CrystalMath	now, he voted right to defend the right to assemble despite some nonsense cold crap
[21:29]	DaemonFC[m]	People are STILL bumping their system from Windows 7 and 8 and getting "Genuine licenses" even though that was officially ended years ago.
[21:29]	CrystalMath	and Cuomo can suck it
[21:29]	CrystalMath	death to Cuomo!
[21:30]	DaemonFC[m]	COVID-19 has about 7 times the death rate of regular flu.
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[21:30]	CrystalMath	that's not enough
[21:30]	DaemonFC[m]	Is it apocalyptic? No. Is it bad? Yes.
[21:30]	CrystalMath	we must live with death
[21:30]	CrystalMath	as ironic as that sounds
[21:30]	CrystalMath	death happens every minute
[21:31]	CrystalMath	even though 99.9999% of the time it's unwanted
[21:31]	DaemonFC[m]	Enough registered voters lived to disagree with that assessment.
[21:31]	CrystalMath	(i'm accounting for the murders, which i suppose were wanted deaths)
[21:31]	DaemonFC[m]	Enough to get past all of Trump's voter suppression and fraud.
[21:32]	CrystalMath	i'm not sure what Trump has to do with that
[21:32]	CrystalMath	Trump seemed to support lockdowns
[21:32]	CrystalMath	he declared a national emergency because of COVID-19
[21:32]	CrystalMath	because of that lame virus that can't even kill a two digit percentage of the people it infects
[21:33]	CrystalMath	what was Trump thinking?
[21:33]	DaemonFC[m]	It seems the Supreme Court didn't block Cuomo.
[21:33]	DaemonFC[m]	It just said that the church rules were more strict than other rules about large gatherings.
[21:33]	DaemonFC[m]	He should just tweak the order so the restrictions are exactly the same.
[21:34]	DaemonFC[m]	That's exactly what happened in Illinois, and Governor Pritzker's amended rule finally got upheld.
[21:34]	CrystalMath	the decision was that these restrictions violate the first amendment
[21:34]	CrystalMath	and they do
[21:35]	CrystalMath	i understand that people voluntarily choose to keep themselves and others safe
[21:35]	CrystalMath	so do i
[21:36]	CrystalMath	i had contact with someone who turned positive over 2 weeks ago and stayed at home the entire 2 weeks to make sure i didn't catch the virus, just as a precaution
[21:36]	CrystalMath	i wasn't even caught by any contact tracer, i chose to stay at home myself
[21:36]	CrystalMath	i know people are terrified of this thing
[21:37]	CrystalMath	the solution isn't to deliberately spread covid but to spread the true perspective on the deaths
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[21:41]	CrystalMath	it's just really hard to explain to people that they're taking their lives for granted, and the gravity of the fact that people die by the millions weekly
[21:41]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: I think from the money I paid for this thing, the features I regret the most are the 4K screen and the touchscreen thing.
[21:41]	CrystalMath	staying alive is a difficult job, not a right
[21:41]	DaemonFC[m]	I hardly ever used the touchscreen function, and 4K has led to numerous problems with application scaling.
[21:42]	DaemonFC[m]	It's nice to look at the screen, when the applications want to cooperate, but so little of the market has ever been 4K that developers just haven't made it a priority.
[21:42]	DaemonFC[m]	I just don't see resolutions higher than 1920 x 1080 being practical or fully supported for years, if ever. 
[21:43]	DaemonFC[m]	They shoved a better display on this thing than the GPU was ever capable of driving in actual usage.
[21:43]	DaemonFC[m]	You'd watch a 4K video and it turns into a slideshow.
[21:43]	CrystalMath	also i'm gonna have to disappoint you, it appears that i didn't catch covid
[21:44]	DaemonFC[m]	So it's pretty clear that Lenovo paired it up with an underperforming GPU because they knew it added a feature to the checklist and it would look terrific on demo at the store.
[21:44]	DaemonFC[m]	In fact, there were so many complaints from reviewers about the Intel HD 520 that they had to do a mid-cycle refresh with a Iris 540 that was 26% faster, and it still wasn't fast enough.
[21:45]	DaemonFC[m]	I got the Iris 540 refresh and it's acceptable, until you want to actually use it for anything performance demanding running in 4K.
[21:46]	DaemonFC[m]	The funny thing is that now that the Iris Xe parts are out, Lenovo has actually retreated from 4K screens and they're available on fewer models, despite the chipset being about 3 times as fast.
[21:47]	DaemonFC[m]	So it was just a case of mismatched components and then people ended up balking at the whole idea of 4K because the graphics chips weren't actually powerful enough to drive it. In fact, you can't even really game on this thing much higher than 1366 x 768 on games that were out in 2013. 
[21:47]	schestowitz	vZS1: https://twitter.com/liztormato/status/1331902427952517121
[21:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@liztormato: @schestowitz Noted.
[21:47]	schestowitz	see context there
[21:59]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz on Shitter, I see.
[21:59]	DaemonFC[m]	@POTUS is Cheeto Hitler for another 55 days.
● Nov 26
[22:02]	CrystalMath	schestowitz: you should ask Trump to pardon Julian Assange
[22:02]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: It was looking a lot like the US was getting ready to invade Venezuela for a while.
[22:02]	CrystalMath	schestowitz: we all should, but i don't have twitter
[22:02]	DaemonFC[m]	Then COVID-19 became such a disaster that the idea of starting a war while it was going on became a lot less tempting. 
[22:02]	CrystalMath	maybe there could be a hashtag
[22:03]	CrystalMath	#PardonAssange
[22:03]	CrystalMath	@realDonaldTrump #PardonAssange
[22:03]	DaemonFC[m]	The US economy is falling apart. Federal deficits are soaring.
[22:03]	DaemonFC[m]	Makes war harder to sell to the public than normal.
[22:03]	DaemonFC[m]	Illinois has completely unraveled and that's being hidden by direct loans from the Fed.
[22:04]	DaemonFC[m]	This won't end. Regardless of what Pritzker says, this will be unending.
[22:04]	DaemonFC[m]	Illinois has turned into the Greece of the United States.
[22:05]	DaemonFC[m]	There are a lot of easy ways to save money that, frankly, I think they won't do.
[22:05]	DaemonFC[m]	They'll just keep tapping a line of credit from the Fed as resentment from other states grows.
[22:06]	DaemonFC[m]	There's nothing the other states can really do about it except have Congress step in to try to cut off the line of credit, and then you have to deal with an entire state defaulting on its debts. 
[22:06]	DaemonFC[m]	So I think what's likely to happen is this goes on for a while and then it will be the Fed itself demanding spending cuts.
[22:06]	DaemonFC[m]	Just like the European Central Bank did to Greece. 
[22:07]	schestowitz	[22:03] <DaemonFC[m]> The US economy is falling apart. Federal deficits are soaring.
[22:07]	schestowitz	Bush 2008
[22:07]	schestowitz	then came Obama
[22:07]	DaemonFC[m]	They'll have to show that they're making progress on the structural deficit in exchange for more loans, and this will come as nobody else will agree to loan the state money.
[22:07]	schestowitz	into chaos
[22:11]	DaemonFC[m]	I think the idea of giving everyone relief from their student loans is a bad idea.
[22:12]	DaemonFC[m]	They should do some kind of program where people get like $10,000 of relief if they make under $100,000 per year. 
[22:12]	DaemonFC[m]	It would limit costs and it would be more stimulative to the economy.
[22:13]	DaemonFC[m]	This idea of giving $50,000 worth no matter how much you earn is bad.
[22:13]	DaemonFC[m]	It wastes a bunch of money on grad students who aren't being hurt financially by this at all.
[22:14]	DaemonFC[m]	It's just going to make blue collar workers who took on debt to go to trade or vocational school or maybe 2 years of community or state college because it's what was fiscally responsible even angrier with the Democrats and Biden.
[22:14]	DaemonFC[m]	$10,000 to them might wipe out all or most of the debt they're in and they'll be really happy to get it, and it will let them up for a lot of air.
[22:15]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: Biden can probably bail USCIS out.
[22:15]	DaemonFC[m]	Congress allocates slush funds for DHS.
[22:16]	DaemonFC[m]	It would be really funny if he cuts ICE by like 10% or something and hands it to USCIS.
[22:16]	DaemonFC[m]	It would make Republicans' blood boil, and score a win for the base at the same time. 
[22:17]	CrystalMath	everything makes the republicans angry
[22:17]	DaemonFC[m]	Now that a federal court has thrown out Trump's absolutely rapacious last minute immigration fee hikes, those aren't coming back.
[22:17]	CrystalMath	even decisions made by other republicans
[22:17]	CrystalMath	like this July, Gorsuch made a landmark decision that discrimination by gender identity is covered by the laws that prohibit discrimination by sex
[22:17]	CrystalMath	and the republicans hated it
[22:18]	CrystalMath	except for Trump, who was okay with it
[22:18]	CrystalMath	but didn't care much either way
[22:19]	CrystalMath	i think it's pretty clear that Trump is a populist... if he believes the people are tired of lockdowns, he'll be anti-lockdown, if he believes the people want them, he'll be pro-lockdown...
[22:19]	CrystalMath	"whatever you say, just vote for me"
[22:24]	schestowitz	269,326 US deaths
[22:24]	schestowitz	with corona
[22:24]	schestowitz	not even counting it the worse way
[22:24]	schestowitz	like "excess deaths"
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[22:28]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: Microsoft is now pitching Office no matter what kind of computer you buy on Best Buy.
[22:28]	DaemonFC[m]	They offer to sign you up for 12 months subscription with auto-renew and make sure to mention it even works on Chromebooks.
[22:29]	DaemonFC[m]	That's going to get really expensive.
[22:29]	DaemonFC[m]	$69 a year for the personal version
[22:29]	DaemonFC[m]	Remember when people just bought it at the store, installed it, and used that version for like 5-6 years...longer even.
[22:29]	DaemonFC[m]	Constant drip drip drip of blood here.
[22:30]	DaemonFC[m]	Every 2 years, they get more money out of you than the version you'd use for 5 or 6 years cost.
[22:30]	DaemonFC[m]	Windows 10 S was a ploy that backfired on them badly. 
[22:31]	DaemonFC[m]	They had to backpeddle from charging $100 once you got it home to turn it into Windows 10 Pro and let you run local applications.
[22:31]	schestowitz	people can use libreoffice
[22:31]	schestowitz	many do
[22:31]	schestowitz	in schools
[22:31]	DaemonFC[m]	Now they're pushing it as a mode, and doing their best to scare you that if you take it out, they'll ever let you put it back in that mode again, even if you reinstall.
[22:31]	schestowitz	anyway, the surface of compettion changes
[22:31]	schestowitz	like negative pricing for clown lock-in
[22:32]	DaemonFC[m]	They say it'll get viruses and stuff if you take it out of that mode.
[22:32]	schestowitz	and we just need to explain those things
[22:32]	CrystalMath	schestowitz: hmm
[22:32]	CrystalMath	it seems that deaths per day grew
[22:32]	schestowitz	zoobab: ping
[22:32]	DaemonFC[m]	Yes, LibreOffice works perfectly fine on Windows.
[22:32]	schestowitz	does the Dusseldorf attorney say anything yet? 
[22:32]	schestowitz	in his site or elsewhere?
[22:32]	schestowitz	zoobab: I expect a complaint from him
[22:32]	DaemonFC[m]	So even if you're never going to argue anyone away from Windows, a lot of the time they're pretty skeptical about a free office program.
[22:32]	schestowitz	for FCC to deal with the actual substance this time around
[22:33]	DaemonFC[m]	But many will install it and try it out because it doesn't cost anything. So nothing risked.
[22:33]	schestowitz	CrystalMath: our gym reopens wednesday
[22:33]	schestowitz	I look forward to it, been over 3 weeks
[22:33]	schestowitz	[00:16] <schestowitz> > We will continue to operate with the previous Covid protocols in place
[22:33]	DaemonFC[m]	When does Ajit Pai's term expire. 
[22:33]	schestowitz	[00:16] <schestowitz> > to ensure your safety when you return. As has been widely reported, gyms
[22:33]	schestowitz	[00:16] <schestowitz> > and spas have proven to have extremely low rates for Covid transmission
[22:33]	schestowitz	[00:16] <schestowitz> > and we will continue to play our part in ensuring that this remains the
[22:34]	schestowitz	AShitPie
[22:34]	schestowitz	I think Rump wants him replaced
[22:34]	DaemonFC[m]	Or can Biden just fire him?
[22:34]	schestowitz	but Bye-Don can toss out whoever Rump puts there
[22:34]	schestowitz	I hope Iancu (USPTO) is tossed out asap
[22:34]	schestowitz	maybe not Biden
[22:35]	schestowitz	It needs to go through the House/Congress
[22:35]	schestowitz	he nominates someone
[22:35]	DaemonFC[m]	The Senate voted to reverse his repeal of Net Neutrality.
[22:35]	schestowitz	it's clear his party wants NN abck
[22:35]	DaemonFC[m]	So this could actually be achievable by Biden.
[22:35]	schestowitz	and AShitPie trolling NN advocates was tasteless
[22:35]	schestowitz	he'll go back to lawyering for telecom companies
[22:35]	DaemonFC[m]	He could get rid of Pai and then have the Senate confirm someone who will put the regulation back.
[22:36]	schestowitz	yup
[22:36]	schestowitz	hopefully
[22:36]	schestowitz	the worry is
[22:36]	schestowitz	they can spread the anti-NN policy to other countries
[22:36]	schestowitz	zero-rating is bad enough
[22:36]	schestowitz	and related indirectly
[22:36]	schestowitz	boosting monopolies
[22:36]	DaemonFC[m]	We're even one seat up from the 52 vote majority the measure got approved with this time.
[22:36]	schestowitz	worldiwide
[22:36]	schestowitz	bbl, I want to write articles
[22:36]	DaemonFC[m]	So Biden's FCC commissioner may get 53 votes.
[22:36]	DaemonFC[m]	Which is well over what it takes to confirm someone now.
[22:37]	DaemonFC[m]	The Senate rules change sort of backfired on Mitch McConnell. 
[22:38]	DaemonFC[m]	Biden will be able to pick off more Republican votes than he needs (2) and appoint a cabinet.
[22:38]	DaemonFC[m]	And possibly quite a few judges too.
[22:39]	DaemonFC[m]	Mostly, you don't need 60 votes in the Senate to do a lot of things anymore. The Republicans wagered that they could push Trump over the finish line again with cheating and sabotage.
[22:39]	DaemonFC[m]	And they guessed wrong.
[22:39]	DaemonFC[m]	And now they'll have a much harder time keeping Biden from appointing people.
[22:40]	DaemonFC[m]	The state level Republicans who didn't go along with Trump's scheme to steal the election are pariahs now.
[22:40]	DaemonFC[m]	Because they followed the law.
[22:40]	DaemonFC[m]	Let that sink in.
[22:41]	DaemonFC[m]	They refused to commit felonies and misdemeanors to steal an election, and now they're gonna pay for that.
[22:42]	DaemonFC[m]	The people who are playing along with the vote fraud narrative, in public, are not for real.
[22:43]	DaemonFC[m]	They're doing it because they know that most of their voters believe the election was unfair and rigged and will take it out on them unless they pretend to investigate things until the heat dies down.
[22:45]	oiaohm	https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/nov/26/microsoft-productivity-score-feature-criticised-workplace-surveillance    I read this and the first thing that crosses my mind if this was amazon the with the way Amazon clones/poaches other parties products how long until this is MS poaching key staff.
[22:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Microsoft productivity score feature criticised as workplace surveillance | Microsoft | The Guardian
[22:49]	DaemonFC[m]	Is the overall competency of Windows going up or down lately?
[22:49]	DaemonFC[m]	Like everything, it does ebb and flow. When they actually did do release versioning, you could tell kind of. 
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[22:54]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: would you want to proofread with me?
[22:57]	DaemonFC[m]	Sure.
[22:58]	DaemonFC[m]	I'm not sure how the topics on Reddit about how to load Ubuntu on Lenovo, HP, Dell, etc laptops always gets derailed by "Why would you do that when you can run them in WSL2?". Other than PR firms.
[22:58]	DaemonFC[m]	I must have seen this at least half a dozen times already when the owner of the machine was clearly asking about running it as the native OS.
[22:59]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: thanks! http://techrights.org/2020/11/26/team-upc-spin-thankfully-funny/
[22:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Thanks to Free Software, the Demise of Software Patents (in Europe and the US), and So Much More | Techrights
[22:59]	psydroid	PR firms, just that
[22:59]	psydroid	or maybe even MS employees
● Nov 26
[23:00]	schestowitz	they got caught
[23:00]	psydroid	they know they are bleeding users
[23:00]	psydroid	and can't do anything to stop it
[23:00]	DaemonFC[m]	I still have some WMA files that I've not replaced with WavPack rips just yet.
[23:01]	schestowitz	techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/
[23:01]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/
[23:01]	DaemonFC[m]	Their DRM was defeated back when that Windows Vista URGE store was up and running, so I just signed up for free trials and stripped the "rental" files.
[23:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | Techrights
[23:01]	DaemonFC[m]	No reason to transcode. WMA Standard is reversed and well supported and the transcode would sound worse.
[23:02]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: publish for you to help review: http://techrights.org/2020/11/26/team-upc-spin-thankfully-funny/
[23:02]	DaemonFC[m]	Loaded it just now.
[23:02]	schestowitz	cheers :-)
[23:03]	DaemonFC[m]	Were motivated, not tired, exhilarated, not demoralised.
[23:03]	DaemonFC[m]	I'd separate those. "We're motivated, not tired. Exhilarated, not demoralised."
[23:04]	DaemonFC[m]	And I just got my spell checker angry because I used an s.
[23:04]	DaemonFC[m]	"not a surprised"
[23:04]	DaemonFC[m]	surprise
[23:05]	DaemonFC[m]	"nor to Benjamin Henrion among many others"
[23:05]	DaemonFC[m]	Henrion, among
[23:05]	DaemonFC[m]	"Team UPC is, as usual, using hype and premature victory laps in an effort to demoralise rationalists."
[23:06]	DaemonFC[m]	I'd say "Trump-style hype and premature victory laps in an effort to gaslight and demoralize otherwise rational people.".
[23:08]	DaemonFC[m]	The point of Trump's election night victory party, which continued even as the results came in and showed a disaster unfolding, were to reinforce his own ego, and assist with the projection of him being cheated, and the only thing anyone there got was COVID-19.
[23:10]	DaemonFC[m]	"bypass Brexit are in for a surprised."
[23:10]	DaemonFC[m]	surprise again
[23:10]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: I invoke the Law of Surprise. 
[23:10]	DaemonFC[m]	To claim what you have, but do not know about. 
[23:11]	DaemonFC[m]	I admit, part of the reason for the new laptop is that the GPU can handle The Witcher 3 at a respectable framerate.
[23:12]	DaemonFC[m]	"Enjoy the long weekend, dont shop (consume) too much, and dont believe anything Team UPC says. Theyve been lying to us all for well over a decade; its not like this week their lies miraculously stopped."
[23:12]	DaemonFC[m]	That price cut on those laptops was pretty stunning, really.
[23:13]	DaemonFC[m]	Considering that those CPUs are so current that you still don't see them on too many things yet. 
[23:13]	DaemonFC[m]	I think their sales are in trouble and they're trying to keep new units going out the door. 
[23:14]	schestowitz	editing now
[23:14]	DaemonFC[m]	In particular, Microsoft is probably just giving them a full rebate on Windows 10 Pro.
[23:14]	DaemonFC[m]	I think Microsoft is resorting to dumping it with rebates now, the Pro SKU, to try to put out some of the fires from the Pixelbook and the new Macbook Air. 
[23:15]	DaemonFC[m]	One has to wonder what the purpose of their Windows division even is these days.
[23:15]	DaemonFC[m]	They gave up on Internet Explorer and the Edge fork of IE.
[23:15]	DaemonFC[m]	The shift to Chrome let them do layoffs down to a skeleton crew on their browser.
[23:16]	DaemonFC[m]	A division that once had over 2,000 people is now down to about 50 from what I've heard. 
[23:17]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: thanks, corrected as you suggested (all the above)
[23:18]	DaemonFC[m]	Microsoft admitted that they have no pull on the web and they're reduced to several dozen people submitting code to be reviewed by Google.
[23:18]	DaemonFC[m]	Which Ballmer said he'd fucking kill.
[23:26]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: Maybe this one will be fast enough to emulate an SNES with Higan. :/
[23:27]	DaemonFC[m]	I've been doing that with SNES9x, which sacrifices accuracy and is not under a "Free" license as Debian defines it. 
[23:32]	schestowitz	can you show me examples of that reddit wsl thing?
[23:32]	schestowitz	like... screenshots?
[23:32]	schestowitz	it would be nice to be able to write something about that
[23:34]	DaemonFC[m]	I really should have saved that.
[23:34]	DaemonFC[m]	I might be able to comb through it again.
[23:35]	DaemonFC[m]	One topic that got derailed was someone wondering if he could run Ubuntu on his HP Spectre x360.
[23:35]	DaemonFC[m]	These new laptops are just so incredible that I no longer see a reason to have some huge hulking desktop PC with wires and a huge desk.
[23:38]	DaemonFC[m]	https://www.reddit.com/r/bashonubuntuonwindows/comments/hg6wl1/hibernate_or_sleep_issues_after_installing_wsl_2/
[23:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Hibernate or sleep issues after installing WSL 2? : bashonubuntuonwindows
[23:38]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: This isn't it, but it is interesting.
[23:38]	DaemonFC[m]	I've heard chatter that just installing WSL2 on some laptops leads to weird ACPI problems.
[23:40]	schestowitz	if you see them again, save pls
[23:42]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: It's almost impossible to figure out the state of Linux on any new-ish laptop.
[23:42]	DaemonFC[m]	You have to kind of buy a pig in a poke and see what  you can do with it once you have it.
[23:42]	DaemonFC[m]	Sometimes there's no problems at all and other times, they did what Lenovo did to me last cycle. 
[23:45]	DaemonFC[m]	I just went with the 250 nit screen this time. I have a 300 nit right now and I never use it at anything close to full brightness.
[23:45]	DaemonFC[m]	I didn't see any reason to run up the tab on things I don't even use
[23:45]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: I wonder if Windows Hello is even legal in Illinois.
[23:46]	DaemonFC[m]	Facebook just paid out $650 million in a BIPA lawsuit settlement. 
[23:48]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/11/26/free-as-in-freedom/
[23:48]	schestowitz	sorry, was typing
[23:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free as in Freedom Should Not be Associated With Cost | Techrights
[23:48]	schestowitz	can you find typos in this?
[23:50]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: They already whitewash Windows 10.
[23:50]	DaemonFC[m]	Wikipedia lists it as "partially open source".
[23:50]	schestowitz	lol
[23:50]	schestowitz	well, 
[23:50]	schestowitz	open source is dead
[23:50]	schestowitz	it;s meaninfless
[23:51]	schestowitz	we call it openwashing
[23:51]	DaemonFC[m]	"media attention paid to to"
[23:52]	DaemonFC[m]	"some say livre"
[23:52]	DaemonFC[m]	A census taker once tested me.
[23:52]	DaemonFC[m]	I ate his livre with some fava beans and a nice Chianti. 
[23:53]	DaemonFC[m]	(Just a joke.)
[23:53]	schestowitz	 They already whitewash Windows 10, Ryan told us moments ago. Wikipedia lists it as partially open source.
[23:54]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: You might also mention that after "byuu" left Higan, his successors moved it to GitHub, where it is at risk from Nintendo, who likes to abuse the DMCA as it pertains to emulators.
[23:55]	DaemonFC[m]	Whether they're in the right or not, they have a history, and Microsoft won't fight them, so the current Higan project is at risk of being black bagged and progress lost one day because of lawyers and Microsoft. 
[23:55]	schestowitz	added
[23:55]	schestowitz	I did not know this
[23:57]	DaemonFC[m]	Nintendo would be in the wrong here because back then, most of the hardware was a series of circuits and processors that were not abstracted away with firmware.
[23:58]	DaemonFC[m]	And it has legal purposes, such as running homebrew programs and maybe even some actual SNES software that has since been open sourced and has nothing else you could run it on.
[23:58]	DaemonFC[m]	Like that reimplementation of the DOOM engine that got opened this year.
[23:59]	DaemonFC[m]	The idea that the SNES could run any version of DOOM at all, even one stripped down and running at low resolution, is pretty amazing.
[23:59]	DaemonFC[m]	It needed SuperFX II, a co-processor that Higan can also emulate.