●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, May 27, 2021 ●● ● May 27 [00:00] *tr_guest|70 (cf9d1507@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.207.157.21.7) has joined #techrights [00:01] *tr_guest|70 has quit (Client Quit) [00:01] baronhk[m] There's a Proton DB now which tracks the general state of Windows game compatibility. Proton is easily available by installing Steam even if you never actually use Steam, or could be packaged. [00:01] techrights-bot #Fedora Linux 32 Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Fedora Linux 34 Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151635 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:01] techrights-bot #Oracle Linux 8.4 Released with Improved Security, Based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151634 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:01] baronhk[m] It's nice that Wine licensed itself LGPL to prevent another Cedega or Valve may have gone that route with Proton. [00:02] techrights-bot #AlmaLinux OS 8.4 Is Out with Full Secure Boot Support, OpenSCAP Support, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151633 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:04] schestowitz Maybe Sohini is the only one left at Canonical to shill WSL [00:04] schestowitz https://ubuntu.com/blog/announcing-ubuntu-on-windows-community-preview-wsl-2 [00:05] baronhk[m] I agree with John Carmack about Wine. It's better for devs to target that if they actually have no idea what in the hell they're doing on Linux. [00:05] baronhk[m] And most of them don't. [00:06] baronhk[m] Maybe Wine should rebrand as Linux Subsystem for Windows. [00:06] techrights-bot Hayden Barnes, the #microsoft 'moles' who was pushing #vista10 inside Canonical ('WSL'), has left...! #WSL and #WSL2 were utter failures. [00:07] techrights-bot Hayden Barnes, the #microsoft 'mole' who was pushing #vista10 inside Canonical ('WSL'), has left...! #WSL and #WSL2 were utter failures. [00:07] *chaban (sid414735@musicbrainz/user/chaban) has joined #techrights [00:07] baronhk[m] WSL2 is just a ridiculous pile of crap and I have no idea what the use case for their proprietary DirectX 12 for Linux would be. [00:08] techrights-bot #ibm "Financial engineering will continue Layoffs will continue and increase Costs will be cut dramatically (no bonuses, no GDP, salary decrease)" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2NzTFR#replies [00:08] baronhk[m] An attempt to make "Linux" applications that only work on Windows maybe. [00:09] baronhk[m] Implement a Linux system and shove it full of Windows crap. How much money are they willing to pour into this as nobody goes along with it? [00:09] techrights-bot "Krishna has done nothing to improve IBMs situation, and he has not articulated plans that give investors reasons to believe the future will be better." https://247wallst.com/technology-3/2021/05/25/ibm-remains-big-techs-disaster/ [00:10] baronhk[m] I have the car ready to go into the shop again on Friday. [00:11] techrights-bot "This is a very interesting article in that the CFO admits IBM bought Redhat for their go to market strategy. Its all about #IBM SW being offered in the new and improved #Redhat container." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP#replies [00:11] baronhk[m] It's making some sort of popping and whooshing noise. I suspect some massive vacuum leak is causing predetonation but I'm surprised no warning light has come up. [00:12] techrights-bot "Put your Helmets on as the last week in May is about to get interesting restructuring wise. Good luck to all" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aXWweHP#replies #ibm #layoffs [00:12] baronhk[m] Who knows how the computer works? [00:12] baronhk[m] It puts out standard diagnostic codes because the government required that, but the threshold for trouble is up to the OEM. [00:13] techrights-bot " Anything happening tomorrow (Thursday, 5/27)? Or no? Every year, for at least the past three years, they had a big RA on the Thursday before Memorial Day in the US." #rumours of #ibm #layoffs Thursday https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [00:14] baronhk[m] "We like to lay people off on a Friday. Studies show that there's less chance of an incident that way.". [00:14] techrights-bot " #IBM is still somehow hanging on, but its time has passed." See the comments, hours old. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b26vuux#replies [00:15] baronhk[m] That's certainly one way to live. Analyze what tends to happen under certain conditions and apply an action as a general rule. [00:15] MinceR 27 010735 <+baronhk[m]> WSL2 is just a ridiculous pile of crap and I have no idea what the use case for their proprietary DirectX 12 for Linux would be. [00:15] techrights-bot "So, what are the odds that this will be another #Lenovo play - spin off stuffed with former IBMers who then get laid off within x amount of time?" #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ADDet#replies [00:15] MinceR EEE [00:15] schestowitz yup [00:16] schestowitz pretty much [00:16] schestowitz but that's failing [00:16] schestowitz I just did some checks and found Miceosoft employees promoting it [00:16] baronhk[m] I would have suspected that Lenovo would put Dell out of business by now. [00:16] schestowitz also very senior ones [00:16] baronhk[m] You get the same crackpot shit as Dell for a lot cheaper. [00:16] schestowitz [00:08] An attempt to make "Linux" applications that only work on Windows maybe. [00:16] schestowitz that was the plan [00:16] schestowitz first they need many users [00:16] schestowitz they never got that [00:17] schestowitz they just wasted a TON of money on marketing [00:17] schestowitz but WSL was junk [00:17] schestowitz and they kept iterating [00:17] schestowitz and still, nobody came... [00:17] baronhk[m] No reason. It takes up space on Windows, which already has Windows applications. [00:17] schestowitz Barnes leaving means some have given up [00:17] schestowitz after like 4 years [00:17] baronhk[m] Anyone wanting Linux uses real Linux. [00:17] schestowitz other Ubuntu WSL people left [00:17] schestowitz years ago in fact [00:18] schestowitz bbiab [00:18] baronhk[m] WSL2 still has severe deficits, like not returning memory into Windows space until you exit the entire WSL session. [00:18] MinceR some hipsters will want to run WSL and pretend they're using "Linux" :> [00:18] MinceR and say "i use and love Linux BUT..." [00:18] baronhk[m] So it can grow quite large over time and you don't get very much uptime when you have to keep closing out all your Linux apps to reclaim memory from the pool. [00:19] techrights-bot "There are ongoing issues using Fedora's authentication system to login to various applications. We are investigating." So many technical glitches in #fedora since #ibm took over. [00:20] baronhk[m] They should have kept using their own infrastructure. It was cheaper to maintain that than outsource it to where they had no control over the metal and sometimes the software too. [00:20] techrights-bot #FLOSSWeekly 631: The Future of Focused Work - Fred Stutzman https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/631 #gnu #linux #Ibiblio [00:21] baronhk[m] Pointy Haired Bosses got involved and believed that they could lower operational costs by outsourcing. [00:22] baronhk[m] It's still possible to use Windows as a real computer where your data stays with you and if they ever take that away they're screwed. A lot of people are aggravated by having to remove and silence cloud stuff but will just keep ignoring it as long as local computing remains possible. [00:22] baronhk[m] I don't like OneDrive for a lot of reasons, but one of the big ones is it's an ongoing expense while local storage is cheap and runs for many years. [00:23] baronhk[m] You're essentially paying Microsoft for a hard drive every year that you use it, only you don't get a hard drive and don't even get a quarter of the space or anything close to the I/O performance of local storage. [00:23] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [00:24] XRevan86 baronhk[m]: I think ye have already given the information before that explains why they want DirectX 12 in WSL 2. [00:24] baronhk[m] People who were abusing GMail as a drive accidentally inspired this mess. [00:25] techrights-bot "I occasionally need to benchmark the tools I try out in videos but doing so can be a little bit annoying, it turns out however, that there is a tool called Hyperfine which make the process incredibly easy. I wish I knew about this earlier." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMko2TcCS3Y [00:26] XRevan86 baronhk[m]: I think the plan is to make DirectX 12 the only option on Windows, and so in WSL it is needed to translate OpenGL and Vulkan as the parent Windows is not supposed to know about these things. [00:28] techrights-bot A site called #LinuxDotCom is promoting #Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware https://www.linux.com/news/build-and-deploy-hyperledger-fabric-on-azure-cloud-platform-part-1/ #LinuxFoundation is defunct or hijacked [00:28] XRevan86 Or at least to not encourage OpenGL and Vulkan compatibility in any way. [00:28] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [00:29] techrights-bot #LinuxFoundation marketing #Microsoft http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151593 [00:32] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151638 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:32] techrights-bot Audiocasts/Shows: Hyperfine, Coder Radio, #FLOSSWeekly , and #XFCE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151637 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:32] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151636 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:33] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@techrights.org) has joined #techrights [00:33] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [00:38] techrights-bot #ibm "Can confirm you will most likely get laid off." [00:38] techrights-bot #ibm #layoffs "don't come here. it will not end well." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b26vuux#replies [00:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How good is IBM for newbies? - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:38] techrights-bot #Mozilla and #LibreOffice http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151639 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla and LibreOffice | Tux Machines [00:39] techrights-bot "It will not surprise me if #IBM over stuffs Kyndryl with excess management, and then lets #Kyndryl drop the ax on them via a bridge to retirement" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2N2vZh#replies [00:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Who were the target groups at GTS? - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:40] techrights-bot "The [ #ibm ] Lenovo play was good for the guys who were close to leaving anyway They got a one year bride pay wise, and Heathcare for two" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ADDet#replies [00:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Kyndryl stuffing? - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:41] techrights-bot #geminiProtocol devroom at #fodsem h They already did a talk in the last FOSDEM. https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006573.html [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini meetup? [00:42] techrights-bot "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now at 6,716 signatures. I see some of the people in the hate letter (which this was a response to) taking the lead in trying to cause #freenode exodus. [00:44] baronhk[m] That wouldn't be a bigger disaster than Vulkan is now. [00:45] baronhk[m] Vendors can get different bugs because they have to ship their own driver. [00:45] lockeanarchist Nobody needs WSL2. If you just want better tools to """"sysadmin"""" on windows you can just do a better Cygwin package with the minimal necessary tools [00:46] lockeanarchist Canonical needs just that if they aren't a MS shell company [00:46] baronhk[m] They do Windows Terminal now. [00:47] baronhk[m] I saw that and I'm like how many damned terminals do they need? [00:48] lockeanarchist SSH works on Windows now, maybe port ZSH/Bash to work with windows' ports of GNU tools [00:48] lockeanarchist Why would someone need more in Canonical's usecase? [00:49] MinceR if you sysadmin on windows, you're doing it wrong [00:49] lockeanarchist yeah [00:49] MinceR windows is unfit for real work [00:49] lockeanarchist """sysadmin""" [00:51] lockeanarchist What i'm saying is that someone (could be Shutteworth himself) is pushing WSL2 at Canonical using the excuse that this is good for the Canonical's server business [00:51] lockeanarchist But they don't need that [00:51] techrights-bot Not sure I want a distro that works for those who bomb the world the most https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/05/27/cloudlinux-department-of-defense/ [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | CloudLinux provides Linux support services for Department of Defense - Help Net Security [00:52] techrights-bot "We (the #Ubuntu Community [sic] team) are delighted to invite you to the #UbuntuOnAir YouTube and Twitch channels!" https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntuonair [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UbuntuOnAir | Ubuntu [00:55] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151640 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:57] lockeanarchist Maybe CloudLinux was just the cheaper offer for the DoD [00:57] schestowitz yeah [00:57] schestowitz or [00:57] schestowitz they want it on their side [00:57] schestowitz clownlinux also works for Microsoft [00:57] schestowitz azure and beyond [00:57] schestowitz which is why I recommend rockylinux instead [00:57] schestowitz rocky deleted github [00:57] schestowitz that was my sole criticism of them! [00:58] MinceR i recommend void linux and bedrock linux instead ● May 27 [01:00] techrights-bot ...endangered pygmy hippo... behind bars https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland-now/edinburgh-zoo-gives-sweet-name-24132780 [01:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailyrecord.co.uk | Edinburgh Zoo gives sweet name to Scotland's only endangered pygmy hippo calf - Daily Record [01:03] techrights-bot #manutd played better and deserved to win the Europa League. But anyway, the other #manchester #football club should (hopefully) net the better trophy later this week. [01:03] lockeanarchist schestowitz: CL is just a RHEL clone with a livepatching service and some scripts [01:05] techrights-bot Elephant Robotics expands its myCobot line to include #RaspberryPi https://techbullion.com/elephant-robotics-expands-its-mycobot-line-to-include-raspberry-pi/ [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elephant Robotics expands its myCobot line to include Raspberry Pi | TechBullion [01:06] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [01:09] techrights-bot LOL. "Clown technology".... yes, #outsourcing as a 'skill'. Don't know how to manage a server, but know how to send that task somewhere else, to be spied on. Some 'skill'... https://www.waketech.edu/post/wt-news-story/6932 [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.waketech.edu | Future Looks Bright for Cloud Technology Degree | Wake Technical Community College [01:10] techrights-bot Quickly find your #Java application process ID - JAXenter https://jaxenter.com/java-application-process-id-174340.html #jaxenter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/27/#latest [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quickly find your Java application process ID - JAXenter [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [01:11] techrights-bot #Microsoft became a digital ashtray that fakes financial performance, bribes for contracts, and infiltrates the competition. Not much more... https://theconversation.com/were-just-not-compatible-any-more-why-microsoft-finally-dumped-internet-explorer-161416 [01:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | We're just not compatible any more: why Microsoft finally dumped Internet Explorer [01:12] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [01:12] techrights-bot "May 26, 2021. Added instructions to sign the letter in support of RMS without GitHub, maily for non technical people." #RMS said #deletegithub 6 years ago. https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html [01:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Updates [01:13] techrights-bot If rumours are true (I'd not put gossip in #techrights articles), later today we'll hear a lot more about #ibm layoffs. Rumours that go weeks back. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b26vuux#replies [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How good is IBM for newbies? - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:14] techrights-bot "if you do not want to worry about layoffs, leave #IBM / #kyndryl " https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ADDet#replies [01:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Kyndryl stuffing? - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:16] schestowitz lockeanarchist: yes [01:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.68 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 69.83 swarm size (avg): 231.16 [01:16] schestowitz seems the pdf of rasengan gets many requests todat [01:16] schestowitz *today [01:16] schestowitz almost 3,000 [01:17] schestowitz 8,400 times last week [01:18] schestowitz so over 10k people at least read his multi-page explanation of what happened, mostly the DNS level dispute [01:18] schestowitz I am still undecided [01:18] lockeanarchist can you link the pdf, please [01:18] lockeanarchist didn't see it [01:18] schestowitz from what I've read, the channel hijacking was done by a bot [01:19] MinceR indeed [01:19] schestowitz and rasengan should take action against whoever thought this was a GoodIdea(R) [01:19] MinceR if the screenshot i linked is genuine, it was his idea [01:20] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf [01:20] schestowitz MinceR: so really bad idea [01:20] lockeanarchist many projects locked the channels with a +m and put libera.chat in the topic [01:20] lockeanarchist looks like lee snapped and got a aggressive bot to punish that [01:21] XRevan86 schestowitz: He said it was his idea. [01:21] rasengan schestowitz: This was my fault (the bot) and my fault alone. I will be posting a post mortem on the freenode site and share it with you when it's complete. To be clear, I really apologize for it and it was my fault alone. The way it was executed was not good at all. That being said, it was something debated over the course of several days (with [01:21] rasengan a post of a draft policy change prior and feedback in a channel). [01:21] XRevan86 https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1397678759222906882 every time I check her feed, there's something new [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "if you're wondering how it's going: 02:16:54 insomnia: You banned a whole ISP 02:17:07 Noir, and nothing of value was lost." | nitter [01:21] schestowitz rasengan: yes, veryBadIdea(TM) [01:21] schestowitz living up to the stigma people made of your motives [01:22] rasengan I understand. :/ [01:22] lockeanarchist rasengan: you could wait more or do the thing in a less aggressive way [01:22] lockeanarchist people at #free-rms were pissed [01:23] schestowitz that also makes it a harder task for those of us who defend freenode [01:23] lockeanarchist yeah [01:23] schestowitz and becomes a liability upon us [01:24] lockeanarchist the best way would be asking people to report malicious ops [01:24] techrights-bot Notice how Microsofters promoting a non-GPL efforts to replace Android https://www.thurrott.com/smart-home/250477/google-rolls-out-fuchsia-os-to-first-generation-nest-hub [01:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Rolls Out Fuchsia OS to First-Generation Nest Hub - Thurrott.com [01:25] techrights-bot It's 2021 and #Gizchina thinks doing "Microsoft says" articles is a good idea. The company lies and corrupts, its word is worthless. Check the facts, don't tell readers what "Microsoft says" like it's a fact. http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [01:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [01:26] lockeanarchist After the Oracle case Google became a chief promoter of the Apache License [01:28] schestowitz only after? [01:28] schestowitz the copyright case had little to do with GPL [01:28] schestowitz it was about API reuse [01:28] schestowitz and if java was under another licence, the situation would be similar [01:29] techrights-bot #proprietarySoftware = holes lurking in the shadows, or IOW #fakeSecurity https://www.technadu.com/linux-porter-discovered-m1-covert-channel-flaw-m1racles/278806/ [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Porter Discovered M1 Covert Channel Flaw Named M1RACLES | TechNadu [01:30] *GuySoft has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [01:31] XRevan86 lockeanarchist: Android has been under the Apache licence since day one. [01:32] lockeanarchist schestowitz: yeah, I'm wrong. I think that Android is Apache since the beginning [01:32] lockeanarchist oops [01:32] lockeanarchist yea, XRevan86 [01:33] *MinceR sets mode -q #techrights *!*@70147.numbersstation.org [01:34] schestowitz google was not always gpl-hostile though [01:34] lockeanarchist Even Chromium is Apache [01:34] schestowitz it started by building its servers with gnu stuff and bragging about gnu [01:34] schestowitz later, chris dibono would participate in the war on fsf [01:34] schestowitz money changes people [01:35] lockeanarchist Google is the smarter big tech monopolist today. They create "open" projects, gets them in a dominant position and after that shove their own "standards" [01:35] lockeanarchist web is now dominated by the Chromium project [01:36] techrights-bot How's all the extra bloat working out for you? https://www.govinfosecurity.com/nearly-50000-ips-compromised-in-kubernetes-clusters-a-16744 [01:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govinfosecurity.com | Nearly 50,000 IPs Compromised in Kubernetes Clusters [01:37] techrights-bot #microsoft controlled media keeps harping about #wsl (paid-for spam, stenography), but the key person behind that crap left. Quietly, but left... I saw confirmatory evidence... [01:39] techrights-bot Meet #CutefishOS : A New #Manjaro Community Spin That Looks Like macOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151641 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet CutefishOS: A New Manjaro Community Spin That Looks Like macOS | Tux Machines [01:40] MinceR yet another? [01:40] MinceR gnome doesn't look like macos enough? :> [01:40] techrights-bot "To analyze huge amounts of data and enable machine learning for warfighting operations, CTI uses geo-visualization technologies like TAK and Raptor, software-defined radio applications GNU Radio and Redhawk, and Apache tools including Hadoop and Spark." https://blog.executivebiz.com/2021/05/bluestone-invests-in-open-source-developer-cti-john-allen-quoted/ [01:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.executivebiz.com | Bluestone Invests in Open-Source Developer CTI; John Allen Quoted - ExecutiveBiz [01:42] lockeanarchist lol Hayden Barnes [01:42] lockeanarchist Now I remember [01:42] techrights-bot Vector Drawing: New in #Inkscape 1.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151559#comment-29762 #freesw [01:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome to Inkscape 1.1! | Tux Machines [01:42] lockeanarchist He was the Canonical employee that used Windows at work in Canonical [01:43] lockeanarchist Now he's on SuSE [01:43] techrights-bot This makes no sense to me: "An Apple M1 processor with eight Arm cores is 400% faster than the single-threaded GNU Compiler Collection (GCC)." Huh? Hardware is faster than a... COMPILER? https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/05/25/2235765/0/en/CacheQ-s-New-Compiler-Supports-Multi-Threading-CPU-Acceleration-Enables-Software-Developers-to-Write-Once-Accelerate-Anywhere.html [01:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | CacheQs New Compiler Supports Multi-Threading CPU [01:44] schestowitz [01:42] lol Hayden Barnes [01:44] schestowitz he trolls us here [01:44] schestowitz several times [01:44] schestowitz over the year [01:44] schestowitz *years [01:44] schestowitz anonymously even [01:45] schestowitz but based on the context we figured out it was him [01:45] schestowitz he than admitted it [01:45] schestowitz [01:40] gnome doesn't look like macos enough? :> [01:45] schestowitz who said it's limited to one DE/distros? [01:45] MinceR \_()_/ [01:45] schestowitz it's easy to copy apple [01:45] schestowitz but.... [01:45] MinceR gnome has had aping macos as its mission since 2.0 [01:46] schestowitz it's harder to brainwash people, i.e. marketing, to pay for it [01:46] MinceR they broke window management so they could stuff their precious crap into title bars [01:46] MinceR because apple did it [01:46] lockeanarchist https://twitter.com/unixterminal/status/1397664941306482689 >>> Why would someone test Games for Linux on... Windows? [01:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@unixterminal: .@Blizzard_Ent engineers talking about how WSL and Visual Studio is helping them bring games to Linux. #MSBuild2021 https://t.co/lmyd9mcbLZ [01:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@unixterminal: .@Blizzard_Ent engineers talking about how WSL and Visual Studio is helping them bring games to Linux. #MSBuild2021 https://t.co/lmyd9mcbLZ [01:46] MinceR lol @ blizzard [01:47] schestowitz lol unixterminal [01:47] lockeanarchist yah, I saw him sometimes in my twitter tl [01:47] schestowitz MinceR: you don't need title bars anyway [01:47] schestowitz I hide them for most things [01:47] schestowitz in KDE/Kwin [01:47] schestowitz but in GNOME it's almost impossible to do so [01:47] schestowitz on my gnomeshell laptop they take up far too much space [01:47] schestowitz and it's a small screen [01:47] lockeanarchist I don't think CSD is too bad, but GNOME CSD is bad [01:48] lockeanarchist it's just too large [01:48] schestowitz it might be ok for 'n00bs' [01:48] MinceR schestowitz: i like being able to see window titles [01:48] schestowitz but give me the option [01:48] MinceR and on my fvwm config, the title bars of unfocused windows are just that [01:48] schestowitz gnome was called 'nazis' by Torvalds for removing too many desirable options [01:48] lockeanarchist I like Firefox implementation of CSD [01:48] MinceR the buttons are only visible on the focused window [01:49] MinceR i think all CSD is bad, including the one in windows [01:49] schestowitz it should be an option anyway [01:49] MinceR my title bars are 13 pixels tall +1 pixel window border [01:50] techrights-bot #tuxmachines under #ddos attacks the past half day. It's back again, despite defenses we put in place. [01:50] MinceR (but the title bar and the border can be disabled separately) [01:50] lockeanarchist schestowitz: They like to remove options but doesn't include thumbnails in the filepicker ;D [01:51] techrights-bot More distraction? https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/372815 talk about what they do NOT want you too, e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html #billgates #pervert [01:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.entrepreneur.com | The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Sold All Its Shares of Apple and Twitter Right Before the Billionaire Couple Announced Their Divorce [01:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [01:51] techrights-bot More distraction? https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/372815 talk about what they do NOT want you to, e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html #billgates #pervert [01:52] lockeanarchist If GTK was a independent toolkit project this would be already a thing [01:53] lockeanarchist I think they removed menubars for good in GTK4 [01:54] techrights-bot "The New Relic One platform is popular, but the company has struggled to turn a profit." Not clear if this is Free software or just the typical openwashing https://siliconangle.com/2021/05/26/new-relic-enhances-kubernetes-observability-open-source-pixie-software/ [01:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Relic enhances Kubernetes observability with open-source Pixie software - SiliconANGLE [01:56] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:56] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [01:56] techrights-bot #ACM recognizes far-reaching technical achievements with special awards https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-05/afcm-arf052521.php [01:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurekalert.org | ACM recognizes far-reaching technical achievements with special awards | EurekAlert! Science News [01:59] techrights-bot The so-called 'Linux' Foundation should be utterly ashamed of itself for boosting the very same actors that attack Linux. This isn't a satire. LF is a compromised operation, hijacked by rogue actors that infiltrate their rivals. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151593#comment-29763 [01:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Working for Microsoft and GitHub Now | Tux Machines ● May 27 [02:01] techrights-bot Wait, didn't #python cancel the word "master"? https://www.i-programmer.info/news/150-training-a-education/14583-master-python.html [02:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.i-programmer.info | Master Python [02:02] *saint_dogbert has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:02] techrights-bot #idg reminding us this week that's it's owned and paid for (advertising) by #microsoft ... I remember when it was a news network with many sites, not a #propaganda framework for the highest bidder [02:02] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [02:03] techrights-bot #oraclr bought SPARC but promotes ARM. They have no clue what they're doing... [02:03] techrights-bot The New Humanitarian | Indias #COVID19 digital divide hampers vaccine and healthcare access https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news/2021/5/25/india-COVID-19-digital-divide-hampers-vaccine-and-healthcare-access #thenewhumanitarian | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/27/#latest [02:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Indias COVID-19 digital divide hampers vaccine and healthcare access [02:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [02:04] lockeanarchist I don't know why Mozilla is more concerned about "disinformation" and "fake news" than making Firefox better. [02:05] techrights-bot Is #ibm transfering staff to units it plans to disband soon? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ADDet#replies #layoffs #DinosaurCompany [02:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Kyndryl stuffing? - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:06] techrights-bot Is #ibm transferring staff to units it plans to disband soon? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ADDet#replies #layoffs #DinosaurCompany [02:06] techrights-bot There's consensus that #ibm is dead man walking. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b26vuux#replies [02:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How good is IBM for newbies? - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:07] techrights-bot Culture or cult? Buzzwords don't mean a 'thang! https://www.infoq.com/articles/oerhlich-devops-culture/ [02:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Q&A with Eveline Oerhlich on Building an Effective DevOps Culture [02:09] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [02:09] techrights-bot #Microsoft #propaganda sites now borrow the "Linux" brand for #openwashing and #greenwashing of the top polluter, Microsoft, which harms the planet. Gross brand-hijacking moves. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151593#comment-29764 [02:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Working for Microsoft and GitHub Now | Tux Machines [02:10] techrights-bot Cities: Why more green spaces means healthier residents | World Economic Forum https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/05/nature-green-space-urban-cities-exercise-fresh-air/ #weforum | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/27/#latest [02:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.weforum.org | Cities: Why more green spaces means healthier residents | World Economic Forum [02:11] schestowitz [02:04] I don't know why Mozilla is more concerned about "disinformation" and "fake news" than making Firefox better. [02:11] schestowitz :-) [02:11] schestowitz you almost answered your own question [02:11] schestowitz it's between the lines [02:11] schestowitz maybe soon they'll seek to deplatform of Mozilla [02:11] schestowitz saying it's "racist" and "sexist" [02:11] schestowitz *deplatform critics of Mozilla [02:11] schestowitz because they harp about nothing technical anymore [02:12] schestowitz and to point this out is to "attack" nontechnical people [02:12] schestowitz or something like that [02:12] schestowitz it's "bro" [02:12] schestowitz all we want is a good browser that doesn't spy on us [02:12] schestowitz and isn't Google [02:12] schestowitz or Google-funded like Mozilla [02:12] schestowitz and they give us sound bites instead [02:12] lockeanarchist Mozilla is just artificial "competition" to Google [02:13] schestowitz and give over $3 million dollars per year to their defunct'ing CEO [02:13] lockeanarchist they don't defund it because they feared a anti-trust case [02:13] schestowitz yeah [02:13] schestowitz [19:31] If #google doesn't kill #mozilla over the next 5 years (Google needs Mozilla to pretend there's still competition and bemoan antitrust action), #firefox might join the laughable cloud club of Web 'browsers' that tell you which site/page you can access and which you cannot [02:13] lockeanarchist now that mozilla is becoming more irrelevant [02:13] lockeanarchist I think that Google will defund it in the next years [02:13] schestowitz but they use that as a PR mill [02:13] schestowitz lockeanarchist: it won't be of much use when userbase comes to less than 1% [02:14] schestowitz as we're getting there if they lay off technical staff [02:14] schestowitz and add people from Microsoft and other proprietary software firms to their Board [02:14] lockeanarchist Mozilla wants to be EFF [02:14] schestowitz Speaking for myself, I am trying to get off the Web [02:14] schestowitz I use gemini for news [02:14] schestowitz where possible [02:14] schestowitz RSS also, but sometimes it needs to render a bit of HTML [02:15] schestowitz EFF used to be good [02:15] schestowitz now being EFF can be seen as an insult [02:15] lockeanarchist Browsers now are more complex than OSs now [02:15] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [02:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights [02:15] schestowitz assuming you mean simple OSes [02:15] schestowitz without all the bloat you have in Linux [02:15] schestowitz for performance, many file systems etc. [02:15] schestowitz Linux is vast [02:16] schestowitz even too vast [02:16] lockeanarchist I think that Chromium has more LoC than Linux now [02:16] schestowitz linux core stuff? [02:16] schestowitz chromium borrows much from external libs [02:16] lockeanarchist nah [02:17] lockeanarchist Linux has more [02:17] lockeanarchist i'm full of shit [02:17] schestowitz get a gemini client [02:17] schestowitz techrights gives you the option of NOT use a browser [02:17] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ [02:17] schestowitz *using [02:18] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [02:18] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [02:19] lockeanarchist installing kristall [02:19] techrights-bot "In the #Gemini tradition of multi-schema URI support you could even use a #Bittorrent magnet: URI." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006541.html [02:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages [02:19] *lavendereyes has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:19] schestowitz lockeanarchist: cool... [02:22] techrights-bot #PGCon Unconference - Friday May 28 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgcon-unconference-friday-may-28-2225/ also https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210526005176/en/Postgres-Vision-2021-Agenda-to-Include-Top-PostgreSQL-Experts-and-Users-from-Around-the-World [02:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PGCon Unconference - Friday May 28 [02:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Postgres Vision 2021 Agenda to Include Top PostgreSQL Experts and Users from Around the World | Business Wire [02:24] techrights-bot #AlmaLinux 8.4, #Oracle Linux 8 Update 4 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151633#comment-29765 #gnu #linux [02:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AlmaLinux OS 8.4 Is Out with Full Secure Boot Support, OpenSCAP Support, and More | Tux Machines [02:27] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151642 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:29] *lavendereyes (~lavendere@gateway/tor-sasl/lavendereyes) has joined #techrights [02:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [02:31] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [02:36] schestowitz https://twitter.com/janc_be/status/1397441065540591616 [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@janc_be: @schestowitz Freenode just stole & locked a whole bunch of channels on Freenode, literally forcing people to move o https://t.co/aoMWOdKy9X [02:36] schestowitz " [02:36] schestowitz Freenode just stole & locked a whole bunch of channels on Freenode, literally forcing people to move off their network to another one (Im talking channels that didnt decide to move away before Freenode did that tonight). 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[02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 [02:41] saint_dogbert I know this is off topic, but I think word needs to get out about this [02:41] saint_dogbert https://pjmedia.com/culture/bryan-preston/2021/03/10/court-case-accuses-panda-express-of-subjecting-employees-to-cult-like-training-that-forces-them-to-strip-with-co-workers-n1431528 [02:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pjmedia.com | Court Case Accuses Panda Express of Subjecting Employees to 'Cult-Like' Training That Forces Them to Strip With Co-Workers PJ Media [02:41] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-05-26.txt [02:41] saint_dogbert What went on in that 'seminar'... [02:41] AdmFubar 8-O [02:42] techrights-bot Shame on #googleNews rewarding #plagiarism ... having added malicious sites like #ADMET that rip off #knowledgehut and forget to remove the logos etc. #google doesn't seem to care. Reckless, lazy, worthless... [02:42] saint_dogbert Another site says that one of the employees filed a complaint for sexual battery [02:42] saint_dogbert who is going to enforce the law and hold google accountable? Anyone? Except maybe the EU [02:43] schestowitz not even EU [02:43] schestowitz Google funds FSFE etc. [02:43] saint_dogbert So another tech company thats above the law [02:43] schestowitz they have all sorts of fronts [02:44] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/edps-farce/ [02:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Breaking News: EDPS Admits That It is Powerless to Investigate Claims of GDPR Non-compliance at the EPO | Techrights [02:52] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) ● May 27 [03:01] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/05/27/apple_m1_chip_bug/ [03:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Unfixable Apple M1 chip bug enables cross-process chatter, breaking OS security model The Register [03:02] techrights-bot #FreeSoftware and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151644 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software and More | Tux Machines [03:02] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151643 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [03:02] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/05/27/uspto_pdf_charge/ [03:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | US Patent Office to take only DOCX in future or PDFs if you pay extra The Register [03:03] MinceR i thought their security model was "buy expensive ads and claim they're more secure than anything else in them" [03:03] AdmFubar it still is [03:06] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 130901 total Total pages: 35687 Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-03-26 00:17:05 GMT; 2 months 1 days ago [03:06] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. 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It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:08] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151645 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [03:08] techrights-bot Links 27/5/2021: #AlmaLinux OS 8.4, Rumours of #IBM Layoffs Today http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/ibm-layoffs-rumoured/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/26/ibm-layoffs-rumoured/ [03:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/5/2021: AlmaLinux OS 8.4, Rumours of IBM Layoffs Today | Techrights [03:08] schestowitz AdmFubar: thanks for that link [03:08] schestowitz I will add it t [03:09] schestowitz to http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ [03:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO Promotes Microsoft Monopoly and Proprietary Software (Updated) | Techrights [03:09] techrights-ipfs QmUJKWuPGKzL4nmcd5UB7qFvEMYKrYzB5fBHjoSeaYSi6Y [03:11] techrights-bot UPDATE: #uspto under fire for helping criminals from #microsoft and for REWARDING them for their crimes. http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ [03:11] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [03:12] schestowitz AdmFubar: maybe seen if you can find more? [03:12] schestowitz if there's enough fire power, they will withdraw [03:13] schestowitz in fact, this decision seems to have been finalised by interim USPTO official [03:13] schestowitz put forth by Trump's flunky, Iancu [03:13] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: off for the night) [03:13] schestowitz but after Iancu resigned maybe Microsoft found some political ways to push this through [03:14] AdmFubar schestowitz, if I happen across something I will post it here [03:15] schestowitz thanks [03:15] schestowitz it doesn't intersect with subjects I typically follow [03:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 27.01 swarm size (avg): 231.24 [03:22] AdmFubar a bit dated https://www.patentdocs.org/2020/01/uspto-support-for-filing-in-docx-format-still-a-work-in-progress.html [03:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: USPTO Support for Filing in DOCX Format Still a Work in Progress [03:22] schestowitz I saw that [03:22] schestowitz at the time [03:29] AdmFubar ah here is the usual bs. here is a company that make a word plugin that checks your patent application document [03:29] AdmFubar https://www.patentclaimmaster.com/ [03:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentclaimmaster.com | Automated Patent Proofreading, Patent Drafting, Patent Forms and Office Action Responses - ClaimMaster [03:30] schestowitz lots of snakeoil out there [03:30] schestowitz the other day I checked if anticipat is still around [03:30] schestowitz as their rss feeds yielded nothing [03:30] schestowitz https://anticipat.com/ [03:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anticipat [03:31] schestowitz last blog post TWO YEARS AGO [03:31] schestowitz https://blog.anticipat.com/ [03:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.anticipat.com | Anticipat Blog [03:31] schestowitz so assume it is defunct [03:31] schestowitz lots of companies selling snakeoil [03:31] AdmFubar it is about all anyone sells... [03:32] techrights-bot #Anticipat seems to have collapsed. #uspto #ptab #patentMaximalists #swpats [03:34] AdmFubar probably not, just idle from covid restrictions. [03:37] *Aspie96 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [03:42] schestowitz AdmFubar: no, they used to write regularly [03:42] schestowitz than silence [03:42] schestowitz even ages before covid [03:42] schestowitz then silence [03:42] AdmFubar https://blog.oppedahl.com/?p=4623 [03:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.oppedahl.com | The problem with USPTO's proposed non-DOCX penalty - Ant-like Persistence [03:42] schestowitz same for some other blogs about patents [03:42] schestowitz they stopped posting [03:43] schestowitz AdmFubar: thanks, will add [03:43] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: The former freenode staff are lying to you! Support Andrew Lee! | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf) [03:44] AdmFubar he has more [03:44] AdmFubar https://blog.oppedahl.com/?cat=18 [03:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.oppedahl.com | non-DOCX penalty Archives - Ant-like Persistence [03:45] techrights-bot NEWS #AralBalkan Archival cascades: a practical way to not break URLs https://ar.al/2021/05/26/archival-cascades-a-practical-way-to-not-break-urls/ [03:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ar.al | Archival cascades: a practical way to not break URLs Aral Balkan [03:49] techrights-bot NEWS #CoryDoctorow #Hardware Monopolists are winning the repair wars https://pluralistic.net/2021/05/26/nixing-the-fix/#r2r [03:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 26 May 2021 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [03:51] AdmFubar yeow! [03:51] AdmFubar https://www.finnegan.com/en/insights/blogs/prosecution-first/october-2020-uspto-fee-increases-the-clock-is-ticking.html [03:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-October 2020 USPTO Fee Increases: The Clock Is Ticking | Prosecution First Blog | Finnegan | Leading Intellectual Property Law Firm [03:51] schestowitz "Prosecution First Blog" [03:51] schestowitz LOL [03:52] schestowitz typical Finnegan [03:52] schestowitz nasty and aggressive firm [03:52] AdmFubar you see the section on fees? [03:53] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [03:54] schestowitz almost like Microsoft drafted it [03:55] AdmFubar it really sounds like the uspto is becoming a fully automated office of the rubber stamp [03:57] techrights-bot Further update on #microsoft hijacking #uspto http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ [03:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO Promotes Microsoft Monopoly and Proprietary Software (Updatedx2) | Techrights [03:57] schestowitz AdmFubar: same in EPO [03:57] schestowitz but EPO too has been hijacked by Microsoft [03:57] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [03:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights [03:58] AdmFubar EPO still sounds manual to me... [03:59] *jrmu (jrmu@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-goqhfytsriapsncc) has joined #techrights [03:59] techrights-bot NEWS #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware [Attackers] release patient data stolen from New Zealand health systems https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/555567-hackers-release-patient-data-stolen-from-new-zealand-health-systems [03:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackers release patient data stolen from New Zealand health systems | TheHill [03:59] techrights-bot NEWS #Insurance #ProprietarySoftware Cyber insurance rates to increase 20-50% this year: Aon https://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20210304/NEWS06/912340248/Cyber-insurance-rates-to-increase-20-50-this-year-Aon ● May 27 [04:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsurance.com | Cyber insurance rates to increase 20-50% this year: Aon | Business Insurance [04:00] techrights-bot #Microsoft #Windows TCO [Old] #uniHarvard # Cybersecurity Insurance Has a Big Problem https://hbr.org/2021/01/cybersecurity-insurance-has-a-big-problem [04:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hbr.org | Cybersecurity Insurance Has a Big Problem [04:00] techrights-bot [Old] #Insurance #ProprietarySoftware Increasing Cyberattacks Causing Cyber Insurance Rates to Rise https://www.profrisk.com/post/increasing-cyberattacks-causing-cyber-insurance-rates-to-rise [04:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.profrisk.com | Increasing Cyberattacks Causing Cyber Insurance Rates to Rise [04:01] schestowitz AdmFubar: well, semi [04:02] schestowitz INPI France barely even examines [04:02] schestowitz they would be deprecating this whole system if people realise how it really works [04:02] schestowitz we already move in that direction, with COVID patents making people angry [04:03] techrights-bot NEWS #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware DHS to require pipeline companies to report cyberattacks https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/555297-dhs-to-issue-directive-requiring-pipeline-companies-to-report [04:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DHS to require pipeline companies to report cyberattacks | TheHill [04:03] techrights-bot #Openwashing https://goteleport.com/blog/securing-oss-infrastructure/ [04:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-goteleport.com | Securing Open Source Infrastructure | Teleport [04:04] jrmu I read earlier that techrights is either neutral or supportive of andrew lee; can anyone here point me to problems with libera.chat? [04:04] jrmu I'd like to hear the opposing side [04:04] techrights-bot NEWS #PatrickBreyer #Privacy #Surveillance #ECHR Ruling: #MassSurveillance Legislation Violates Human Rights https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/echr-ruling-mass-surveillance-legislation-violates-human-rights/ [04:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | ECHR ruling: Mass surveillance legislation violates human rights Patrick Breyer [04:05] techrights-bot NEWS #BroadbandBreakfast #Privacy #Surveillance Several Organizations Protest #Facebook , Sign Public Complaints Against Platform https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/05/several-organizations-protest-facebook-sign-public-complaints-against-platform/ [04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Several Organizations Protest Facebook, Sign Public Complaints Against Platform : Broadband Breakfast [04:05] techrights-bot NEWS #Axios #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook says it will no longer remove posts claiming #COVID is human-made https://www.axios.com/facebook-lifts-covid-man-made-claim-ban-a503cf99-d57e-4ca1-9f73-0912ad1c36c0.html [04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook lifts ban on posts claiming COVID "man-made" - Axios [04:05] schestowitz jrmu: that's the wrong way to put it [04:06] schestowitz we barely ever named libera.chat [04:06] schestowitz or attacked it [04:06] schestowitz we just said the controversy is MOSTLY phony [04:06] jrmu well it is of course politically motivated :) [04:07] jrmu I was curious though if anyone here had any evidence that libera.chat would be worse or comparable to freenode [04:07] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, May 26, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:07] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:07] jrmu for users trying to make a decision about which network to go to [04:08] schestowitz it would be 'generous' to say this is mostly based on a misundederstanding [04:08] schestowitz explain to people what happened [04:08] schestowitz it's a lot simpler than the political spinners want us to think [04:08] schestowitz it was a 2FA lockout in DNS [04:08] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf [04:08] jrmu I've read that, yes [04:08] schestowitz from there on it span out of control [04:09] schestowitz threat of legal action and alleged gag [04:09] schestowitz then christel resigned, not sure when exactly [04:09] jrmu for me, the history doesn't matter to me that much, I'm more concerned about going forward, which network will treat users better [04:09] schestowitz anyway, let's not talk much about IRC [04:09] schestowitz we can move on and focus on what it all distracts from [04:10] schestowitz like the anti-RMS 'jihad' [04:10] jrmu are any of the parties involved in anti RMS boycotts [04:10] jrmu either libera.chat or freenode? [04:10] schestowitz libera.chat [04:11] schestowitz divisive hacks and framing as "ethics" [04:11] jrmu CrystalMath told me this but I don't have the list of names or the URL evidence [04:11] jrmu as it would help me weigh the options going forward [04:11] schestowitz which channel/s? [04:11] jrmu he was mentioning it on ##rms [04:11] schestowitz rasengan fucked up royally by running some bot that chopped down channel en masse [04:12] schestowitz (which he now regrets) [04:12] jrmu yeah i figured he would regret it [04:12] jrmu i knew he didn't mean to do it like that [04:12] schestowitz BTW, some ex-freenode 'staff' was censoring pro-RMS activists [04:13] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/09/rms-replatformed/ [04:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Some Background on the Free Speech Society at the University of Buckingham, Where Richard Stallman is Being Replatformed | Techrights [04:13] jrmu ok let me view that link, that was what i was looking for [04:13] schestowitz notice date [04:13] schestowitz before the mess [04:13] schestowitz oh, wait [04:13] schestowitz wrong link [04:13] schestowitz wait... [04:14] schestowitz this http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ [04:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights [04:14] schestowitz a day earlier [04:14] jrmu ok one moment [04:14] schestowitz they misused their position in freenode [04:14] schestowitz to advance tech-political objectives [04:15] jrmu Ive been targeted by some of these same people for years, a source told us, and am trying to sort it out with OFTC and Freenode right at this very moment [04:15] jrmu do they have logs of this? [04:15] schestowitz yes [04:15] schestowitz I saw some [04:15] schestowitz I removed names from the article [04:16] schestowitz that was before we saw the attacks on freenode, weeks earlier [04:16] jrmu For me this would be quite important, so I can know the character of libera.chat/oftc staff [04:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 48.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 114.08 swarm size (avg): 231.28 [04:16] schestowitz they are volunteers [04:16] schestowitz but.. [04:16] schestowitz they get other things in return [04:16] schestowitz mostly power over people [04:16] schestowitz and then power over ideas [04:16] schestowitz and I reject that [04:17] schestowitz it's a risk if becoming power trip [04:17] schestowitz and tripping over people with legit (but inconvenient to some) ideas/info [04:17] jrmu I've heard that accusation but I lack logs/evidence for it. My experience with ex-freenode staff was [04:18] jrmu I didn't like their policies but they haven't abused their powers [04:18] schestowitz some staff is OK [04:18] schestowitz but there are cliques [04:18] schestowitz and they extended to oftc [04:18] schestowitz same people [04:18] jrmu hm, what's the connection between libera.chat and oftc? [04:18] jrmu they're not independent networks? [04:18] schestowitz people [04:18] schestowitz overlaps [04:19] schestowitz and they apparently share banlists [04:19] schestowitz FB and Twitter are the same [04:19] schestowitz censorship and social control networks [04:20] schestowitz falsely marketed as means of mass communication [04:20] schestowitz anyway, let's change subjects if you don't mind [04:20] schestowitz I already lost days worth of productivity to this IRC chaos and rift [04:20] schestowitz do you want to read a draft on EPO? [04:20] schestowitz to catch typos/errors? [04:22] jrmu I can take a look [04:22] jrmu oh, different topic [04:22] jrmu I'm not sure what EPO is, unfortunately [04:22] jrmu Alright, thanks for your time schestowitz , I appreciate it [04:23] schestowitz it's good if you don't know [04:23] schestowitz because that's the aim [04:23] jrmu you guys are the main people not supporting libera.chat so I wanted to hear your story [04:23] schestowitz to make it approachable a topic [04:23] schestowitz draft published http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/outline-g121-and-beyond/ [04:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Outline of Recent EPO Series: Kangaroo Courts, German Government Complicity, and Gross Privacy Violations by Unaccountable Officials | Techrights [04:24] schestowitz Re "not supporting libera.chat" [04:24] schestowitz that's not the right way to put it [04:24] schestowitz we never even name that network [04:24] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [04:24] jrmu ok understood [04:24] schestowitz we oppose a false narrative or false portrayals of events leading up to this blunder [04:25] schestowitz let me know if you 1) find typos [04:26] schestowitz 2) clarify is deemed ok and you find it understandable [04:28] *wallacer (~quassel@2001:bc8:1824:9a:cafe:babe:b00b:aa05) has joined #techrights [04:31] AdmFubar ok I'm outta here for the night..... later all [04:31] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights [04:32] *tr_guest|56860 (4a5300d8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.74.83.0.216) has joined #techrights [04:34] *tr_guest|56860 has quit (Client Quit) [04:38] techrights-bot Outline of Recent #EPO Series: #KangarooCourts , German Government Complicity, and Gross #Privacy Violations by Unaccountable Officials http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/outline-g121-and-beyond/ #patent #patents [04:41] XRevan86 schestowitz: Christel resigned before, of course, as a result of the sponsor logo addition. The DNS/2FA thing happens later. [04:42] schestowitz what motivated mo [04:42] schestowitz tomaw to do it? [04:42] schestowitz was this related to her resignation? [04:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: Indirectly, as she left an information vacuum after her. Judging by that the staff mocked Andrew for saying that the Board doesn't recognise tomaw, replying that the Board didn't exist apparently she didn't mention to them that she was a head of staff AND on the Board. [04:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's obvious that the staff didn't know much about the company operations or even cared for it as they barely even crossed paths while they managed freenode. I think that the staff was pushing for more independence from that company, especially after their only tie to it just resigned. [04:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: And since they didn't trust the company (like they don't trust the sponsors and have exclusive access to the donated hardware), I guess they tried to get exclusive access to the domains as well. [04:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: Now I don't know why it was so important to maintain that domain access control, but I suspect that it was distrust in the company possibly caused by the logo thing. [04:55] XRevan86 Like, if the company put that logo there without consulting anyone and then explained nothing (Christel resigned instead) what else is it capable of? ● May 27 [05:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: Another messy aspect of this whole story is Andrew barging into #freenode and saying that he accepts the resignation letter draughts as final and then ignoring what is said back to him. [05:08] techrights-bot The Haarian #PraetorianGuard http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/praetorian-guard-in-haar/ #haar #epo #kangarooCourts #corruption [05:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Haarian Praetorian Guard | Techrights [05:10] schestowitz " [05:10] schestowitz #DevMC Senior Manager for Windows Containers at [05:10] schestowitz @Rancher_Labs [05:10] schestowitz , now part of [05:10] schestowitz @SUSE [05:10] schestowitz . Microsoft MVP. Former Advocate/Eng. Manager [05:10] schestowitz @Ubuntu [05:10] schestowitz on WSL. [05:10] schestowitz " [05:10] schestowitz He uses a Microsoft logo now [05:10] schestowitz in his Twitter profile [05:10] schestowitz I suppse [05:10] schestowitz that's as close as it gets [05:11] schestowitz to being like a Microsoft mole [05:11] MinceR yup [05:11] schestowitz pushing Microsoft [05:11] schestowitz from within Canonical [05:11] schestowitz now SUSE [05:11] MinceR and guess which list did SUSE put itself on as an organization :> [05:11] schestowitz Still pushing WSL: https://twitter.com/unixterminal/status/1397706473875070977 [05:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@unixterminal: While #MSBuild is still happening, I will also be joining a WSL panel at @DockerCon tomorrow, led by @nunixtech wit https://t.co/lpgN7eqh3b [05:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@unixterminal: While #MSBuild is still happening, I will also be joining a WSL panel at @DockerCon tomorrow, led by @nunixtech wit https://t.co/lpgN7eqh3b [05:12] schestowitz then again, SUSE pushing Microsoft is NOW news [05:12] schestowitz I just hope Canonical will quit doing that [05:12] schestowitz it cost them a lot in credibility [05:12] schestowitz not that they had that much to begin with 5 years ago [05:13] techrights-bot #ibm playing a shell game to fake health https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b3S8fuZ [05:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | FHA account after kyndryl transition - post regarding IBM layoffs [05:14] techrights-bot "I advised my kid (4 yr grad) to avoid working at #IBM and look for a company with solid growth and balance sheet." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b26vuux#replies #redhat [05:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How good is IBM for newbies? - post regarding IBM layoffs [05:16] techrights-bot NEWS #TheHill #Misinformation #Disinformation #EU pushes for stronger disinformation rules https://thehill.com/policy/technology/555492-eu-pushes-for-stronger-disinformation-rules [05:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU pushes for stronger disinformation rules | TheHill [05:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also notice how Andrew never touches the topic of the logo, something is smelly there. I don't believe that Christel resigned because she was bullied like he says. At least not a way that's not insisting to explain things. And if everything really is as simple as it looks, then why not just explain and move on? [05:16] MinceR or maybe nobody cares about the logo that much :> [05:16] *balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [05:17] XRevan86 MinceR: Why did Christel resign then? [05:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 62.71 swarm size (avg): 231.32 [05:17] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-224-236-91-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [05:17] MinceR maybe they were harassed and/or felt guilty about the sale of the corporation [05:18] MinceR maybe they had unrelated personal issues [05:18] XRevan86 MinceR: 4 years later suddenly unprovoked. With this end-result. [05:19] MinceR they used to have a different sponsor's logo there [05:19] MinceR owned by the same people, afaik [05:19] MinceR so why would it be a big deal? [05:19] schestowitz 5+ years [05:19] XRevan86 MinceR: Indeed, why would it? [05:19] schestowitz PIA (Andrew) [05:19] schestowitz then Shells (Alex, his brother) [05:19] schestowitz both Free software-friendly, AFAIK [05:19] XRevan86 And yet, it's something to resign for. [05:20] schestowitz my understanding is this [05:20] schestowitz last time [05:20] schestowitz I don't want to spend too much energy on it [05:20] MinceR same [05:20] schestowitz 1. RMS cancel campaign [05:20] schestowitz some freenode staff involved [05:20] MinceR we probably won't see much in the way of evidence either way [05:20] schestowitz and then cancel freenode users who support RMS [05:21] schestowitz tomaw then confronts Lee over the whole FSF thing [05:21] schestowitz worrying about coups etc. [05:21] schestowitz logo of Shells added in March [05:21] schestowitz in place of PIA (brother) [05:21] schestowitz tomaw takes over domain [05:21] schestowitz they throw a fit [05:21] schestowitz tom riles up 'colleagues' [05:21] *balrog (balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights [05:21] schestowitz saying it's a secret legal action [05:21] jrmu I'd really like the evidence of the freenode staff being involved in the RMS cancel campaign, if it's not too much trouble [05:22] schestowitz staff feels left out and under attack [05:22] schestowitz without any context given [05:22] jrmu because that would greatly affect my opinion of libera.chat [05:22] schestowitz resignation letters being prepared [05:22] schestowitz techrights leaks one of the first [05:22] MinceR i'm not sure where you can get a list of staff that you would trust [05:22] schestowitz if not THE first [05:22] schestowitz then they email me [05:22] MinceR you can look their names up in the anti-RMS letter yourself [05:22] schestowitz asking me not to leak it or to amend it [05:22] schestowitz days later they throw a fit again [05:22] MinceR the letter is at https://rms-open-letter.github.io/ [05:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An open letter to remove Richard M. Stallman from all leadership positions | rms-open-letter.github.io [05:23] jrmu I remember just seeing 2 or 3 freenode staff, that was all [05:23] schestowitz bbiab [05:23] schestowitz I also need some sleep soon [05:23] MinceR which is a lot more than what one would want to see in a list of trusted persons running a network that is supposed to be about free software [05:23] MinceR (and not against) [05:23] techrights-bot NEWS #TheJakartaPostID #Censorship Tool for censorship: Newly effective regulation could curb free speech in #Indonesia https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2021/05/23/tool-for-censorship-newly-effective-regulation-could-curb-free-speech-in-indonesia.html [05:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thejakartapost.com | Tool for censorship: Newly effective regulation could curb free speech in Indonesia - National - The Jakarta Post [05:24] techrights-bot NEWS #CNN #Censorship Amid censorship fears, Hong Kong's artists contemplate an uncertain future https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/hong-kong-art-censorship/index.html [05:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Hong Kong's artists contemplate uncertain future amid growing censorship fears - CNN Style [05:24] techrights-bot NEWS #CPJ #Censorship #UK online safety bill raises censorship concerns and questions on future of #encryption https://cpj.org/2021/05/uk-online-safety-bill-raises-censorship-concerns-and-questions-on-future-of-encryption/ [05:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cpj.org | UK online safety bill raises censorship concerns and questions on future of encryption - Committee to Protect Journalists [05:24] XRevan86 schestowitz: Where did ye get the tomaw and FSF/RMS thing from? [05:24] MinceR there were also overlaps with oftc staff, who also have such people on their staff currently [05:24] schestowitz XRevan86: the PDF [05:24] schestowitz see sms/messages [05:25] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf [05:25] schestowitz I was warned about this back in April [05:25] jrmu I don't know, I'm not convinced that freenode staff wanted to cancel RMS [05:25] techrights-bot NEWS #NewIndianExpress #Censorship #Modi government asks large #socialcontrolmedia companies to report status of compliance with new IT rules https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2021/may/26/modi-government-asks-large-social-media-companies-toreport-status-of-compliance-with-new-it-rules-2307889.html [05:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newindianexpress.com | Modi government asks large social media companies toreport status of compliance with new IT rules- The New Indian Express [05:26] MinceR some of them wanted to [05:26] MinceR that's clear [05:26] techrights-bot NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Censorship Indian Police Visit #Twitter Offices as #Modi Goes on #Pandemic Offense https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/25/technology/covid-india-twitter.html [05:26] jrmu i can't really even trace it to current libera.chat staff [05:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Indian Police Visit Twitter Offices as Modi Goes on Pandemic Offense - The New York Times [05:26] MinceR i can [05:26] schestowitz some did [05:26] MinceR jose antonio rey is there [05:26] schestowitz not all [05:26] schestowitz freenode staff is not a monopolith [05:26] schestowitz they're not even 'proper' staff [05:26] MinceR nathan handler is there too [05:26] schestowitz but volunteers [05:27] techrights-bot NEWS #Newsweek I Was a Reporter. Now I Drive for Lyft. #Journalism Has Become a Bastion of Privilege https://www.newsweek.com/i-was-reporter-now-i-drive-lyft-journalism-has-become-bastion-privilege-opinion-1594619 [05:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | I Was a Reporter. Now I Drive for Lyft. Journalism Has Become a Bastion of Privilege | Opinion [05:27] techrights-bot NEWS #dawn #pk #pakistan #Journalist assaulted https://www.dawn.com/news/1625655/journalist-assaulted [05:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Journalist assaulted - Newspaper - DAWN.COM [05:28] XRevan86 schestowitz: Where? I see them talking about the domain access. [05:28] schestowitz yeah [05:28] jrmu so I see two, nhandler and jose [05:28] jrmu that doesn't seem like a lot and it's normal that there should be some dissenters [05:28] jrmu there's like 20 staff and only 2 on the list [05:29] MinceR amdj (aaron jones) is there too [05:29] MinceR richih used to be a freenode staffer and he's on the list as well [05:29] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [05:30] jrmu what is richih's nick? [05:30] MinceR RichiH [05:30] jrmu I can't confirm he's staff on libera.chat [05:30] MinceR i haven't seen him as staff there yet [05:31] MinceR but he was a freenode staffer earlier [05:31] MinceR and he appears to be an oftc staffer currently [05:31] schestowitz "FSF situation" [05:31] jrmu so 3/20 so far, that is still a really low number [05:31] MinceR it should be 0 [05:31] schestowitz page 4 [05:32] XRevan86 Is there evidence of them translating that personal opinion into action onto freenode users? [05:32] MinceR not sure [05:32] MinceR i wouldn't trust such people with any position of authority [05:32] schestowitz XRevan86: yes, there is [05:33] schestowitz maybe not personally [05:33] jrmu hm, I'm really unconvinced tbh [05:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: Page 4 is Andrew (on the right) finding FSF being centralised as causing a bad situation. [05:33] schestowitz http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210521.html#tMay%2021%2018:19:52 [05:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Friday, May 21, 2021 [05:39] techrights-bot The #G121 hearing/s commence tomorrow; thats a good time to take stock of recent scandals, which demonstrate the demonic type of institution that we deal with (and workers have gotten sick of) http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/outline-g121-and-beyond/ [05:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Outline of Recent EPO Series: Kangaroo Courts, German Government Complicity, and Gross Privacy Violations by Unaccountable Officials | Techrights [05:39] *balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [05:39] techrights-bot The Swedish chef (or the regimes protector, cooking decisions that give a veneer of legitimacy to violations of the law) deserves a song too; best sung in a heavy metal fashion http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/praetorian-guard-in-haar/ #epo #haar #munich #corruption #de [05:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Haarian Praetorian Guard | Techrights [05:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: The quote is hard to understand (or verify, especially by myself as I don't know what that's all even about), regardless it doesn't mention any misconduct on freenode. [05:42] MinceR the quote appears to state 2 things: a) tomaw is also involved in this and b) these people act as debian and/or gnome foundation members [05:42] *balrog (balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights [05:42] MinceR (some of them indeed signed the letter as such) [05:45] MinceR there's also "Stew OConnor (former Debian developer, former freenode staff)" [05:45] saint_dogbert I remember Stew. He was a nice guy back then [05:54] XRevan86 MinceR: And that doesn't support schestowitz's timeline, no? [05:55] MinceR i don't know what schestowitz's timeline is ● May 27 [06:00] XRevan86 MinceR: After "my understanding is this". [06:02] XRevan86 MinceR: I ask on cancelling freenode users that support RMS, and he gives that log. [06:04] XRevan86 And on FSF ironically the dissatisfaction in FSF is expressed not by Thomas but by Andrew. [06:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 100.06 swarm size (avg): 231.36 [06:29] *HipsfromHell (6b93a552@107.147.165.82) has joined #techrights [06:54] *HipsfromHell has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [06:58] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● May 27 [07:15] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 70.43 swarm size (avg): 231.40 [07:21] *sepsinn has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [07:24] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c-69-137-151-151.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #techrights ● May 27 [08:02] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [08:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.41 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 52.58 swarm size (avg): 231.45 [08:38] techrights-bot NEWS #NBC #Monopolies No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to subscribe: #Amazon buys #MGM for $8.5 billion https://www.nbcnews.com/media/amazon-buys-mgm-85-billion-rcna1023 [08:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Amazon buysMGM for $8.5 billion [08:39] techrights-bot NEWS #TheVerge #Monopolies Sen. Amy #Klobuchar calls on Justice Department to probe Amazon-MGM deal https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/26/22455449/amazon-mgm-klobuchar-buck-hawley-antitrust-investigation-probe [08:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Sen. Amy Klobuchar calls on Justice Department to probe Amazon-MGM deal - The Verge [08:39] techrights-bot NEWS #DigitalMusicNews #Copyrights #Copyright #TikTok Debuts New Videos Voice Narrator After #ByteDance Sued by Actor https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/05/26/tiktok-voice-narrator-changed-lawsuit/ [08:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/05/26/tiktok-voice-narrator-changed-lawsuit/ ) [08:40] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Federal Court of Appeal Court Upholds Canadian Pirate Site Blocking Order https://torrentfreak.com/federal-court-of-appeal-court-upholds-canadian-pirate-site-blocking-order-210526/ [08:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Federal Court of Appeal Court Upholds Canadian Pirate Site Blocking Order * TorrentFreak [08:42] schestowitz XRevan86: that's not my interpretation of the FSF mention [08:42] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:42] schestowitz also, remember the buggest FSF sponsor last year was rasengan or his company [08:43] schestowitz https://www.fsf.org/patrons/fy2020 [08:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF patrons during fiscal year 2020 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [08:43] schestowitz the context was mention of decentralisation [08:43] schestowitz to avoid single point of failure [08:43] schestowitz I also spoke in length about this, directly with him [08:44] schestowitz he is no foe of FSF, that's for sure [08:46] techrights-bot Awesome Screenshot Tool #ksnip 1.9.0 Released with Huge Set of Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151646 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Awesome Screenshot Tool ksnip 1.9.0 Released with Huge Set of Updates | Tux Machines [08:48] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/irc-log-260521/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/27/irc-log-260521/ [08:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 | Techrights [08:50] techrights-bot #righttorepair https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/lawmaker-doesn't-pass-right-to-repair,:7 Behind the scenes criminals are #lobbying http://techrights.org/2019/08/04/righttorepair/ [08:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Lawmaker doesn't pass Right to Repair, hired by Amazon who was lobbying against Right to Repair ? [08:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsofts War on the Right to Repair (Ones Own Computers) Makes Lundgren an Enemy to Microsoft | Techrights [08:54] techrights-bot "i have noticed that #OSI is largely becoming an advertising vector for #tidelift " -a #techrights source. For those who don't know, it's connected to the people who sold #redhat to #ibm [08:56] techrights-bot "we presently are going through a lot of changes. i don't like that #linuxfoundation has become the default shell company for FOSS; however, i trust them more than i do #SFC " -Source on #shellgames in #freesw and #linux [08:58] techrights-bot "i do find it ironic that most of the office staff at LF use macs though" -Source on #linuxfoundation (LF) which does not even use #linux ... not he board, not the management, not even full-time staff ● May 27 [09:06] techrights-bot "when profitability is incorporated into the design decisions of technology, you get systemd" -Anon. #redhat #ibm #systemd [09:08] techrights-bot #ibm "Short term is maybe ok if theres nothing better. Longer term is not good with constant RAs. Start building skills & look for a company thats not struggling quarter to quarter." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b26vuux#replies [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How good is IBM for newbies? - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:16] techrights-bot NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Debugging embedded software with Raspberry Pi Pico https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/debugging-embedded-software-with-raspberry-pi-pico/ [09:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Debugging embedded software with Raspberry Pi Pico - Raspberry Pi [09:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.70 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 78.68 swarm size (avg): 231.50 [09:17] techrights-bot NEWS #Tor Announcing new Board members https://blog.torproject.org/announcing-board-alissa-desigan-kendra [09:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Announcing new Board members | Tor Blog [09:21] techrights-bot NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopoly Opinion | Making #Vaccines More Accessible in an Unequal Society https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/05/26/making-vaccines-more-accessible-unequal-society [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Making Vaccines More Accessible in an Unequal Society [09:22] techrights-bot NEWS #CommonDreams 'Let Us Globalize Compassion': Nobel Laureate Urges World Leaders to Waive #Vaccine #Patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/05/26/let-us-globalize-compassion-nobel-laureate-urges-world-leaders-waive-vaccine-patents [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Let Us Globalize Compassion': Nobel Laureate Urges World Leaders to Waive Vaccine Patents | Common Dreams News [09:25] techrights-bot Contrary to false narratives from #corporateMedia , as iophk puts it, "attack" != "compromised", except for #Microsoft products [09:32] psydroid SPARC has some downsides such as register windows and delay slots, but those could have been overcome in a new version of the ISA. The momentum among developers seems to be lost, though. [09:33] psydroid Fujitsu said they moved to ARM because customers were asking for it due to software support. The natural ISA to move to from SPARC would be RISC-V (many of the same people are involved), but I suppose there aren't competitive chips yet, so ARM is the best alternative right now. [09:33] techrights-bot #BSDNow 404 https://www.bsdnow.tv/404 #bsd #unix [09:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 404: 404 BSD Now Hosts Not Found [09:35] schestowitz psydroid: soon nvidia [09:40] techrights-bot Shame on #cnxsoftware for getting back to #microsoft spam. "Sponsored Post" is NOT even a post, it's just pure spam, promotion of #ProprietarySoftware and #malware ... please don't do things like these... they'll doom the whole site. [09:43] techrights-bot bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;&' [09:43] techrights-bot bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;&' [09:44] techrights-bot #gnu program, not "Linux command" https://linuxhint.com/linux-less-command/ [09:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Linux Less Command with Example Linux Hint [09:50] techrights-bot More and more of #ibm #redhat sites block access unless you run #ProprietarySoftware #javascript ... it's like they don't know where Red Hat came from... or Red Hat doesn't stand for anything anymore. [09:52] schestowitz https://linuxhint.com/rom-image/ [09:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | What is a ROM Image? Linux Hint [09:52] schestowitz "Generally, downloading ROMs from the internet or any other form of digital media is not legal. However, for the love of retro games and because original ROM images come at a cost, many ROMs are downloaded illegally. Sales and revenues of game companies have greatly suffered due to unauthorized downloads. Because of this, copyright holders have been taking stringent actions to prevent unauthorized release and downloads of their [09:52] schestowitz software, particularly the ROM images of arcades or video games. Nintendo, for example, had sued two emulator websites in 2018 for illegally distributing their copyrighted ROMs. Other companies included security features in their products to prevent unauthorized copying of their software. For instance, Capcom had included a protection algorithm to prevent illegal distribution of their software in their arcade games." [09:56] techrights-bot All the players got to have a kick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN5Tls-TBaI [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Epic penalty shoot-out IN FULL! Villarreal beat Manchester United 11-10 from the spot! - YouTube ● May 27 [10:00] *notanamber[m] has quit (Quit: Idle for 30+ days) [10:10] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [10:28] techrights-bot #geminispace mailing lists quieter lately, but in #techrights we see more unique IPs than ever, also close to 150k page requests this month https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/ #geminiProtocol #internet [10:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | The Gemini 2021 Archive by thread [10:37] techrights-bot "Today marks the 18th anniversary of WordPress launch, a day that I fondly refer to as WordPress birthday, which means WordPress is 6,575 days old." #tuxmachines will turn 17 shortly. https://wordpress.org/news/2021/05/wordpress-at-18/ [10:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News WordPress at 18 WordPress.org [10:40] techrights-bot GIMPs Woke Fork Glimpse is Getting Discontinued http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151644#comment-29767 there was never a compelling reason or purpose for this fork in the first place [10:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software and More | Tux Machines [10:45] techrights-bot Punished for downloading #Ubuntu via torrent http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151614#comment-29768 #gnu #linux [10:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Comcast Sends Copyright Notice to a User for Downloading Ubuntu ISO via Torrent | Tux Machines [10:57] techrights-bot old: USA and #gnu #linux https://www.howtogeek.com/138969/why-watching-dvds-on-linux-is-illegal-in-the-usa/ #copyright #monopoly #freesw [10:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | Why Watching DVDs on Linux is Illegal in the USA [10:57] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:58] techrights-bot "They got the mother lode": Former federal prosecutor says grand jury has "everything" on Trump https://www.salon.com/2021/05/26/they-got-the-mother-lode-former-federal-prosecutor-says-grand-jury-has-everything-on-trump_partner/ [10:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"They got the mother lode": Former federal prosecutor says grand jury has "everything" on Trump | Salon.com [10:59] techrights-bot For your patents to apply in Europe, you need European patents, and I doubt you are allowed to file them in an MS proprietary format." https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/05/26/0514222#1138970 nope. False. #epo is even worse than #uspto http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [10:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Locking USPTO Patent Filings into Microsoft with DOCX - SoylentNews [10:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights ● May 27 [11:00] techrights-bot 2020: It seems very much apparent that the EPO is shamelessly pushing Microsofts OOXML (proprietary format with vendor lock-in, security issues and so on) instead of vendor-neutral open standards. http://techrights.org/2020/04/30/european-patent-office-corruption/ [11:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Evidence of Profound European Patent Office Corruption in Official Journal 4/2020 | Techrights [11:01] techrights-bot #snowden #surveillance #privacy #spying #espionage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNESMafb5ZI&t=1m59s [11:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jean-Michel Jarre, Edward Snowden - Exit - YouTube [11:04] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151647 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [11:06] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt 27 'Right To Repair' Laws Proposed This Year. Giants Like #Apple and #Microsoft Have Ensured None Have Passed So Far. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210524/06274946858/27-right-to-repair-laws-proposed-this-year-giants-like-apple-have-ensured-none-have-passed-so-far.shtml [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-27 'Right To Repair' Laws Proposed This Year. Giants Like Apple Have Ensured None Have Passed So Far. | Techdirt [11:07] techrights-bot #patents in #standards are submarine #patent #monopolies and ought to be brought down, universally https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s0glt8lyqx7v/sep-wars-no-peace-in-germany-until-cjeu-ruling see http://techrights.org/2020/07/10/frand-sep-scam/ [11:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | SEP wars: no peace in Germany until CJEU ruling | Managing Intellectual Property [11:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European FRAND (Related to SEP) Proponent and Famed Programmer Comes to Realise That Its Actually a Scam | Techrights [11:08] kingoffrance its kind of sad uspto things dont change much x years later https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/open/about https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/open/documents/open-government-directive [11:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-obamawhitehouse.archives.gov | About Open Government | The White House [11:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-obamawhitehouse.archives.gov | Open Government Directive | The White House [11:08] kingoffrance its all "open" supposedly [11:08] kingoffrance there may even be an earlier "open government directive" [11:09] techrights-bot #Entroware Poseidon is a #GNU #Linux PC Powered by an 11th-Gen Intel CPU http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151426#comment-29769 [11:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware Proteus is a Linux Laptop for Getting Things Done | Tux Machines [11:09] kingoffrance quoth footnote "The Federal Government has defined information in OMB Circular A-130, Management of Federal Information Resources, as any communication or representation of knowledge such as facts, data, or opinions presented in any medium or format. " [11:09] kingoffrance lest anyone think that is not tech [11:09] kingoffrance or that it is just websites etc. [11:10] kingoffrance anyhow, ooxml probably violates their own "directives" [11:10] kingoffrance nevermind anything else [11:11] techrights-bot #EPO #propaganda outlet continues to spread propaganda, for the second time this week https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s07bh791kxmd/remote-litigation-is-here-to-stay-heres-how-to-adapt see http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/max-propaganda/ [11:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Remote litigation is here to stay heres how to adapt | Managing Intellectual Property [11:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Propaganda, Looking to Legitimise a Rigged Panel of Judges, Starts With Author Who Did Puff Pieces With Antnio Campinos | Techrights [11:12] kingoffrance and likewise, there may be later "open directives" too [11:13] techrights-bot "Remote #litigation is here to stay" is a false assumption, it is illegal, but it is being promoted by those with stakes in breaking the law. http://techrights.org/2021/05/26/summing-up-g121/ [11:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 20: Summing up | Techrights [11:14] schestowitz kingoffrance: but the O is for "Open" [11:14] schestowitz Obama [11:14] schestowitz OOXML [11:14] schestowitz OpenATMicrosoft [11:14] schestowitz the person who came up with this is a marketing person [11:14] schestowitz from Edelman [11:14] schestowitz moved to Microsoft [11:14] schestowitz not bosses Torvalds [11:14] schestowitz in management team of LF [11:15] schestowitz and openJS [11:15] schestowitz marketing people [11:15] schestowitz "OpenATMicrosoft" [11:15] schestowitz It's all MARKETING [11:15] schestowitz "openJS" [11:15] schestowitz where JS is almost always propietary [11:15] schestowitz just openwash [11:15] kingoffrance i just remember it was a huge discussion when ooxml first came out, and this was pointed out [11:15] kingoffrance yet it rolls on [11:16] techrights-bot #theregister is promoting lies about what #microsoft #ooxml actually is. In relation to #uspto http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ [11:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | Techrights [11:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.63 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 38.00 swarm size (avg): 231.54 [11:16] schestowitz [11:14] not bosses Torvalds [11:16] schestowitz Now bosses [11:17] schestowitz Robin [11:17] schestowitz Torvalds bossed by marketing people [11:17] psydroid https://forumstandaardisatie.nl/open-standaarden/odf [11:17] schestowitz how the fork did he allow himself and his project to be put in such a sad and sordid situation [11:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forumstandaardisatie.nl | ODF | Forum Standaardisatie [11:18] schestowitz like RMS allowing into the FSF people who ought not have been there in the first place [11:18] schestowitz while his SPONSORS from IBM/Red Hat say things like "diversity" [11:18] schestowitz instead of "freedom" [11:18] schestowitz as if the goals of FSF are not software freedom [11:18] schestowitz but some political issues like superficial balancing not based on principles but identity [11:19] zoobab registered for EPO's streaming tomorrow on Vico and BOA [11:20] schestowitz zoobab: put that online when you can [11:20] schestowitz then we can scrutinise [11:20] zoobab TOS said you cannot record [11:20] schestowitz with swpats ritzka [11:20] schestowitz and see how truly obedient to jossefson [11:21] schestowitz came from a swpats lobbying firm [11:21] schestowitz before becoming a judge [11:21] zoobab also I might be on my bike at that time [11:21] schestowitz now pushing swpats [11:21] zoobab which law firm? [11:21] schestowitz zoobab: details here http://techrights.org/2021/05/19/gunnar-eliasson-and-andrea-ritzka/ [11:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 13: Internal Members: Gunnar Eliasson and Andrea Ritzka | Techrights [11:21] zoobab BOA invented all those swpat workarounds [11:21] schestowitz [11:20] TOS said you cannot record [11:21] schestowitz haha [11:21] schestowitz I say they cannot stack courts [11:22] schestowitz like Microsoft ilk threatening me for publishing OOXML [11:22] schestowitz it's "open" [11:22] schestowitz but secret... [11:23] schestowitz zoobab: if you record, they cannot tell who recorded [11:23] schestowitz and it can be published from any random account, at least selective portions of it [11:23] schestowitz call it "Fair use" under "Criticism" [11:24] zoobab I might be on my bike tomorrow, depending on the weather [11:24] schestowitz anyway, consider grabbing copies of relevant parts [11:24] schestowitz maybe not for dissemination [11:24] schestowitz I can watch it 'offline' [11:24] schestowitz and then turn the speech into text [11:24] schestowitz for key parts [11:25] schestowitz they will be doing theatre [11:25] schestowitz like the stenography at EPO last month [11:25] schestowitz prepared statements [11:25] *jrmu (jrmu@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-goqhfytsriapsncc) has left #techrights [11:25] schestowitz choreographed [11:25] schestowitz the case was already decided [11:25] schestowitz it's only about how they present or deliver it now [11:25] schestowitz pure corruption [11:25] zoobab we've been there with the Council during the swpat theatre [11:25] schestowitz I don't care about their ToS [11:25] zoobab all prepared in advance [11:25] schestowitz using ToS to hide abuse isn't OK [11:26] schestowitz using lawfare to undermine the law itself [11:26] schestowitz it'll be funny to see clips of judges readying scripts [11:26] schestowitz instead of talking like human beings [11:26] schestowitz so having even short clips would help [11:26] schestowitz and would entertain EPO staff for sure [11:27] zoobab the big question is whether those judges can be brought to another court in case they are not independent [11:27] zoobab for example challenging them at the ECHR [11:27] zoobab the rest does not matter much [11:27] zoobab Josefsson selected some UPC judges [11:28] zoobab https://www.epo.org/law-practice/case-law-appeals/eba/g1-21-stream.html [11:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - G 1/21 [11:29] schestowitz it's all rigged [11:29] schestowitz except maybe 1 or at most 2 judges [11:29] schestowitz Arnold [11:29] schestowitz and MAYBE the Greek one [11:30] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/evangelos-chatzikos-and-richard-arnold/ [11:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 17: The External Members: Evangelos Chatzikos and Richard Arnold | Techrights [11:30] schestowitz please considering recording some bits [11:30] schestowitz zoobab: how long are those hearings? [11:30] schestowitz and when is a decision expectedc? [11:33] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151648 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [11:35] techrights-bot Hey, #redhat ... that helped #ibm IMPOSE #ProprietarySoftware and #surveillance at the homes of your staff. How about that? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/5/remote-work-how-improve-collaboration [11:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | How remote work helped us improve collaboration: 4 lessons | The Enterprisers Project [11:35] zoobab I don't think you need any code to register on the video stream [11:36] zoobab probably for their IT guys to guess the dimensioning of the streaming [11:36] zoobab they did the same for the sumulation decision [11:36] techrights-bot Port operating systems to new chip architectures | https://opensource.com/article/21/5/port-chip-architectures #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [11:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Port operating systems to new chip architectures | Opensource.com [11:37] techrights-bot Processing modular and dynamic configuration files in shell https://opensource.com/article/21/5/processing-configuration-files-shell #programming [11:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Processing modular and dynamic configuration files in shell | Opensource.com [11:38] techrights-bot How #GNULinux made a school pandemic-ready http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151649 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Linux made a school pandemic-ready | Tux Machines [11:40] schestowitz zoobab: well, need more insight into what goes on there [11:40] schestowitz saying it's "open" because you can watch under a sort of ""NDA"" is not "open" [11:40] schestowitz it's just a secretive rubber-stamping court [11:40] schestowitz like FISC/FISA [11:41] schestowitz you might need to 'upset' the kangaroos a bit if you want to defeat illegal software patents [11:41] schestowitz otherwise they'll just hide and do injustice in the darkness [11:42] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-224-236-91-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [11:44] techrights-bot A bunch of releases from the #Pallets projects https://lwn.net/Articles/856518/ #flask #python #programming [11:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A bunch of releases from the Pallets projects [LWN.net] [11:44] schestowitz zoobab: this time they got caught with BOTH hands deep in the COOKIE jar [11:44] schestowitz and this is our chance to end this illusion that they have legitimacy [11:45] schestowitz and if you don't take advantage this time around, it may take years until the next opportunity [11:45] schestowitz they know they are watch [11:45] schestowitz so they might even upset the apple cart and vote "no" [11:45] schestowitz at the very least to save face [11:46] zoobab the only question is which court is responsible in case there is wrong doing at BOA [11:46] schestowitz You don't change the system by obeying every law this very same system imposes on you [11:46] schestowitz they want to protect themselves [11:46] schestowitz at least take clips [11:46] schestowitz or convert to audio/text [11:46] zoobab I don't know how it works in different countries to revoke judges, maybe constitutional courts have to deal with those problems? [11:46] schestowitz there are FCC complaints [11:47] schestowitz About BoA [11:47] schestowitz but that's too slow [11:47] zoobab it is, from 2010 [11:47] schestowitz the court of public opinion is better [11:47] schestowitz get us some scripts from the 'hearing' [11:47] schestowitz in haaaaring [11:47] zoobab in my belgian UPC complaint of 2015, I was already citing those pending decisions [11:48] zoobab I guess the reason why it is taking so long is that either: [11:48] zoobab * the court is divided on what to decide [11:48] zoobab * the court is busy with other cases [11:48] zoobab because [11:48] zoobab those BoA complaints were prior to Stjerna's complaint of 2017 [11:49] zoobab but they are definitely on the agenda for this year, probably blowing away the UPC project as well [11:49] zoobab that's what we said in our open letter to the Bundestag, wait for those decisions, but they were constrained by Brexit [11:50] zoobab at least they thought they were constrained by Brexit [11:51] schestowitz I see... [11:52] schestowitz anyway... [11:52] schestowitz consider recording for us all [11:52] schestowitz you don't change the system by obeying UNJUST rules [11:52] schestowitz uncreasonable rules [11:52] schestowitz BLM: let's protest! [11:52] schestowitz you: BUT IT'S ILLEGAL!! [11:52] schestowitz [another cops kills another person] [11:52] *GuySoft (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:9507:1812:34f7:e7e) has joined #techrights [11:53] schestowitz I got some threats for 'leaking' OOXML [11:53] zoobab I remember [11:53] schestowitz but they didn't follow up on the threats [11:53] schestowitz bullies with lawyers [11:53] zoobab this discussion about not being able to have a public document to comment on [11:53] schestowitz that's just what they are [11:53] schestowitz and now OOXML imposed by USPTO [11:53] zoobab ISO has not learned from their mistakes [11:53] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ [11:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO Promotes Microsoft Monopoly and Proprietary Software (Updatedx2) | Techrights [11:54] zoobab I regret not to have sued Microsoft back in the OOXML days [11:54] zoobab now it's DOCX all over the place [11:55] schestowitz even worse [11:55] schestowitz they infiltrate our groups [11:55] schestowitz OSI, LF etc. [11:55] schestowitz they turned into Microsoft advocacy fronts [11:55] schestowitz you were not combative enough at FFII [11:55] schestowitz (imho) [11:56] schestowitz you can't fight criminals like Microsoft by being soft [11:56] schestowitz they laugh you off [11:56] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [11:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [11:56] schestowitz they shit in your lawn and ask for toilet paper [11:56] schestowitz we need to up our game [11:57] schestowitz [08:29] we presently are going through a lot of changes. i don't like that linux foundation has become the default shell company for FOSS [11:57] schestowitz [08:29] however, i trust them more than i do SFC [11:57] schestowitz [08:30] I follow your blog over RSS now [11:57] zoobab we should go to court more often [11:57] schestowitz [08:30] LF does hold a lot of money [11:57] schestowitz [08:30] some people in LF are OK [11:57] schestowitz [08:30] but fewer of them left over time [11:57] schestowitz [08:30] the seats are for sale, literally [11:57] schestowitz [08:31] laid off withotu notice all linux.com staff [11:57] schestowitz [08:31] jack wallen, carla (tuxchick)... [11:57] schestowitz [08:31] LF works closely with ZDNet [11:58] schestowitz [08:31] IBM and Microsoft sponsor that too [11:58] schestowitz [08:32] they share the zeitgeist that way [11:58] schestowitz [08:32] *Shape [11:58] schestowitz [08:32] and same in techRepublic (ZDNet with another brand) [11:58] schestowitz [08:32] at least somebody is shaping it [11:58] schestowitz [08:32] that was 100% my criticism of RMS [11:58] schestowitz [08:32] we need rebuttals though [11:58] schestowitz [08:33] the media is imbalanced [11:58] schestowitz [08:33] it is not surprising that in the vacuum of leadership at FSF (which ironically just certified a router as RYF-approved that requires binary blobs to boot) that people started their own foundations to replace it [11:58] schestowitz the courrs are bias and expensive, zoobab [11:58] schestowitz they control them in several ways [11:58] schestowitz we can do activism also outside the "legal" system [11:58] schestowitz which they bought and paid for [11:58] zoobab way cheaper [11:59] zoobab they were complaints against OFE and EU lobbying from american corporations (IBM/LF) ● May 27 [12:00] schestowitz [08:33] 100% botched smear campaigns almost [12:00] schestowitz [08:33] and I'm told Twitter did the same [12:00] schestowitz [08:33] trying to replace things is common [12:00] schestowitz [08:33] not an FSF-unique problem [12:00] schestowitz [08:33] indeed not [12:00] schestowitz [08:33] people vying for power from within [12:00] schestowitz [08:34] like many who defected away from Debian [12:00] schestowitz [08:34] but a lot of people are mad that things aren't done at FSF so much anymore [12:00] schestowitz [08:34] we encouraged more federation and collaboration [12:00] schestowitz zoobab: you might want to see this about IBM: [12:00] schestowitz recent discussion [12:00] zoobab look at the swpat issue in the US, FSF is powerless [12:00] zoobab I have seen the layoffs posts [12:01] zoobab they excuse to buy RH for Openshift with "Hybrid cloud" was laughable [12:01] schestowitz yeah [12:01] schestowitz Red Hat in trouble [12:01] schestowitz [08:34] (i do find it ironic that most of the office staff at LF use macs though) [12:01] schestowitz [08:34] instead there's lots of infighting [12:01] zoobab still have to see in practice [12:01] schestowitz [08:34] and the monopolies use their money to encourage the infighting [12:01] schestowitz [08:36] that seems to largely be IBM [12:01] schestowitz [08:36] IBM mostly gives money to LF so that they can try to buy their projects into LF initiatives [12:01] schestowitz [08:36] they do [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] all this word stuff is IBM [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] it came from IBM [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] they no longer even hide it [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] xxxx basically became the distro of choice for LF projects because it's independent [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] in recent months they got sloppy [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] if you look at CNCF for example, or LF-Edge projects [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] IBM shows up and tries to cram their shit [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] and it gets rebuffed [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] because nobody wants it :D [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] so really, IBM is spending money and still losing [12:01] schestowitz [08:37] They get edged out [12:01] schestowitz [08:38] more layers of complexity [12:01] schestowitz [08:38] like openshift [12:01] schestowitz [08:38] yeah, LF projects don't want that [12:01] schestowitz [08:38] more LOCs != better [12:01] schestowitz [08:38] they want simple [12:02] schestowitz [08:38] I still use lots of CLI stuff [12:02] schestowitz [08:38] some I code myself [12:02] schestowitz [08:38] which is why its xxxx running on windmills [12:02] schestowitz [08:38] and not redhat [12:02] schestowitz [08:38] :) [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] redhat aims at cars now [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] thats cool [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] i don't want xxxx on cars [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] systemd: aborting. cannot shut down engine. [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] i mean i am sure somebody will do it [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] but i don't think linux should be on cars [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] it already is [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] except like in the radio and shit [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] infotainment [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] yeah thats fine [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] (buzzword) [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] but like tesla [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] the autopilot shit [12:02] schestowitz [08:39] is running on linux [12:02] schestowitz [08:40] and that is a nope from me [12:02] schestowitz I thought about doing an article [12:02] schestowitz regarding IBM and Red Hat [12:02] schestowitz but I wait to see if there's EPO stuff to cover [12:02] zoobab I seriously miss CoreOS [12:02] schestowitz much higher priority [12:03] schestowitz they killed CoreOS [12:03] schestowitz many people only noticed when CentOS was killed [12:03] schestowitz because it had tons of users [12:03] schestowitz [08:41] because the small circuits are powerful enough now [12:03] schestowitz [08:41] anyway, i think it is pretty funny [12:03] schestowitz [08:42] the systemd crowd, they think they are winning [12:04] schestowitz [08:42] it does spread a lot [12:04] schestowitz [08:42] while slowly xxxxx has just chipped away [12:04] zoobab I was doing the friday meetup before Fosdem, where all the core devs of CoreOS were happy to get some money out of it [12:08] techrights-bot 8 Best Free #GNULinux e-book Tools Updated 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151650 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Best Free Linux e-book Tools Updated 2021 | Tux Machines [12:08] techrights-bot #Kaboxer - Kali Applications Boxer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151652 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kaboxer - Kali Applications Boxer | Tux Machines [12:09] techrights-bot #LWN on #Kernel : Linux 5.13, Sticky Groups, #BPF http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151651 #Linux #TuxMachines [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LWN on Kernel: Linux 5.13, Sticky Groups, BPF | Tux Machines [12:18] techrights-bot "A fresh college grad would be crazy to spend more than 2-3 years at their first job anywhere. Get skills and resume experience, hop to another job, and double your salary. For this #IBM is as good as anywhere so long as you focus on getting the skills you want." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b26vuux#replies [12:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How good is IBM for newbies? - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:18] techrights-bot "I would expect #IBM to treat it like any other retiree benefit. If you are eligible to retire when you leave IBM for #Kyndryl , you get it. If you cant retire from IBM when you transition to Kyndryl, you dont" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b3S8fuZ#replies [12:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | FHA account after kyndryl transition - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:19] techrights-bot Older: #ibm lays off 'expensive' workers https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/report-ibm-lines-up-10k-job-cuts-across-europe https://www.channelfutures.com/emea/ibm-layoffs-target-10000-workers-in-advance-of-spinoff will another round be announced later today as rumoured? [12:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report: IBM lines up 10K job cuts across Europe | FierceTelecom [12:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.channelfutures.com | IBM Layoffs in Europe Target 10,000 Workers in Advance of Spinoff [12:22] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #proprietarysoftware #EFF Tells Court Defendants Must Be Allowed To Examine The DNA Software Used To Convict Them https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210523/11531146854/eff-tells-court-defendants-must-be-allowed-to-examine-dna-software-used-to-convict-them.shtml so @eff why do you attack #freesw h http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [12:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EFF Tells Court Defendants Must Be Allowed To Examine The DNA Software Used To Convict Them | Techdirt [12:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights [12:23] techrights-bot NEWS #TruthOut #LizWarren and Progressives Mount Major Push to Break Up Facebook and Amazon https://truthout.org/articles/warren-and-progressives-mount-major-push-to-break-up-facebook-and-amazon/ what about #microsoft h Well, Warren hired some 'moles' from there... [12:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Warren and Progressives Mount Major Push to Break Up Facebook and Amazon [12:24] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151653 #Linux #TuxMachines [12:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:29] techrights-bot NEWS #CounterPunch The Nazi Past of US Geopolitics https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/05/26/the-nazi-past-of-us-geopolitics/ see #ibm for example: http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ [12:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Nazi Past of US Geopolitics - CounterPunch.org [12:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [12:31] techrights-bot "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" still growing. 6,717 signatures. Don't let it be forgotten how a mob led by front groups of companies like #google #microsoft and #ibm staged a coup against #fsf (via #rms as scapegoat, distracting from the real offenders) [12:33] techrights-bot #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft https://www.zdnet.com/article/emails-landing-in-junk-due-to-microsoft-office-365-change/ #zdnet going soft on these criminals still... because those criminals fund ZDNet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [12:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Emails landing in junk due to Microsoft Office 365 'change' | ZDNet [12:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [12:35] techrights-bot "Unlike certain other games of the genre (hi Among Us), you will see full #GNU #Linux support for Space Betrayers which they proudly state very clearly on their Patreon page and it's listed in the Steam system requirements too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/space-betrayers-mixes-together-a-card-game-crisis-management-and-social-deduction [12:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Space Betrayers mixes together a card game, crisis management and social deduction | GamingOnLinux [12:38] techrights-bot UK-based #Entroware launch the Poseidon desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151426#comment-29771 #gnu #linux [12:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware Proteus is a Linux Laptop for Getting Things Done | Tux Machines [12:40] schestowitz https://grep.be/blog//en/life/Freenode/ [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grep.be | Freenode [12:40] schestowitz "This is now over and done with. What's happening with Freenode is a shitstorm -- one that could easily have been fixed if one particular person were to step down a few days ago, but by now is a lost cause." [12:43] schestowitz first the media handled it badly [12:43] schestowitz then it was handled poorly by freenode's new staff, too [12:43] schestowitz not much left to say [12:44] schestowitz not sure an apology would undo teh damage [12:44] techrights-bot #Games : Backbone, Space Betrayers, and The Garden Path http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151654 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Backbone, Space Betrayers, and The Garden Path | Tux Machines ● May 27 [13:01] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:04] techrights-bot Links 27/5/2021: WordPress at 18 and GNU/Linux in Schools http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/wordpress-at-18/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/27/wordpress-at-18/ [13:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/5/2021: WordPress at 18 and GNU/Linux in Schools | Techrights [13:06] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151658 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [13:06] techrights-bot #Devices and #Repairs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151657 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Repairs | Tux Machines [13:06] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151656 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:08] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) [13:10] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:15] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-224-236-91-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [13:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.13 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 53.98 swarm size (avg): 231.59 [13:23] techrights-bot Firm that lobbies for #softwarepatents profits from #patenttrolls #litigating in Europe. This #patentTroll is armed by #Microsoft https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/tomtom-overturns-conversant-patent-with-bardehles-help/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MOSAID [13:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | TomTom overturns Conversant patent with Bardehles help - JUVE Patent [13:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | MOSAID - Techrights [13:57] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.106) has joined #techrights ● May 27 [14:20] techrights-bot #HowTo Sign the Letter in Support of Richard Stallman Without Microsofts GitHub http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/letter-in-support-rms/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/27/letter-in-support-rms/ [14:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How to Sign the Letter in Support of Richard Stallman Without Microsofts GitHub | Techrights [14:30] *GuySoft has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [14:32] *davisr (~davisr@cpe-70-92-166-130.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #techrights [14:44] *josely (~jose@2001:8a0:6156:600:5522:2f2d:3e87:6c02) has joined #techrights [14:48] *josely has quit (Client Quit) [14:48] schestowitz is josely staff? [14:48] schestowitz or am I remembering wrong? [14:49] *inky (~inky@188.115.228.203) has joined #techrights [14:51] techrights-bot When the Lips of #AntnioCampinos Move... http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/antonio-campinos-lies-2021/ #epo #corruption #europe #eu [14:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When the Lips of Antnio Campinos Move | Techrights [14:56] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:56] *phobos (~username@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights ● May 27 [15:11] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:16] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.40 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 48.11 swarm size (avg): 231.63 [15:17] phobos https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/05/26/gentoo-freenode-channels-hijacked.html [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gentoo.org | Gentoo Freenode channels have been hijacked Gentoo Linux [15:25] schestowitz rasengan's mistake [15:25] schestowitz he took responsibility [15:25] *inky (~inky@37.252.67.70) has joined #techrights [15:26] techrights-bot Managing Perceptions for the EPOs Regime http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/managing-perceptions-ip/ #epo #managingIP #corruption #propaganda #coverup [15:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Managing Perceptions for the EPOs Regime | Techrights [15:29] schestowitz looking at it now, with all the scrolling, we might want to split off the intros from the latest stories (new/separate pages, then brush up the summaries and make them non-technical) [15:33] techrights-bot What to expect from Debian/bullseye #newinbullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151660 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #debian [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What to expect from Debian/bullseye #newinbullseye | Tux Machines [15:33] techrights-bot #Kvarken 4.1.0 brings full #Sailfish 64-bit support to Sony Xperia 10 II http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151659 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kvarken 4.1.0 brings full Sailfish 64-bit support to Sony Xperia 10 II | Tux Machines [15:36] techrights-bot New instructions for those who want to combat a censorious trend that seeks to annul, based on lies, voices of #softwarefreedom advocacy http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/letter-in-support-rms/ #rms #gnu #freesw [15:37] techrights-bot #AntnioCampinos is so full of himself that hes attacking staff and destroying the Office while claiming the very opposite (with a straight face) http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/antonio-campinos-lies-2021/ #Techrights #EPO #patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/27/antonio-campinos-lies-2021/ [15:37] techrights-bot #ManagingPerceptions for the EPOs Regime http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/managing-perceptions-ip/ #Techrights #EPO #patents managingIP | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/27/managing-perceptions-ip/ [15:39] techrights-bot #Brazil Supreme Court rules #patent extensions keep drug prices from being affordable. https://www.legalreader.com/brazil-says-long-term-drug-patent-extensions-are-unconstitutional/ #patents [15:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.legalreader.com | Brazil Says Long-term Drug Patent Extensions are Unconstitutional - [15:42] techrights-bot #epo #propaganda outlets pretend that a country is to be assessed only based on prospect of #patent litigation there. What an absurd perspective. https://www.iam-media.com/litigation/united-kingdom-clouded-in-uncertainty [15:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | United Kingdom clouded in uncertainty | IAM [15:43] techrights-bot Influence upon Policy of Average Citizens, Economic Elites, and Interest Groups Influence upon Policy of Average Citizens, Economic Elites, and Interest Groups [15:44] techrights-bot Influence upon Policy of Average Citizens, Economic Elites, and Interest Groups https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B#sec3 [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cambridge.org | Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens | Perspectives on Politics | Cambridge Core [15:45] techrights-bot Didn't the #fraud who run #Tesla said he would quit all this #patent nonsense? What's the point of all this? #Openwashing in addition to his #greenwashing h https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-structural-battery-pack-patent-crashes-cell-failures/ [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.teslarati.com | Tesla structural battery pack patent hints at clever contingencies for crashes, cell failures [15:48] techrights-bot Maybe #IAM should explain to its readers that #Germany openly embraced #corruption at the #EPO to have "established itself as the continents go-to patent venue" https://www.iam-media.com/litigation/germany-the-heart-of-europe see http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/ [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Germany at the heart of Europe | IAM [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag Part 20: Taking Stock | Techrights [15:50] techrights-bot #IAM speaks about rushed judgment or wrong judgement as if it's something to be celebrated... because money trumps justice? https://www.iam-media.com/litigation/china-time-money see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM [15:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | China time is money | IAM [15:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights [15:51] *phobos (~username@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has left #techrights ("Leaving") [15:52] techrights-bot How to install Firefox on a Chromebook https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-install-firefox-on-a-chromebook better wipe #chromeOS and install a 'proper' #gnu #linux distro as most contain #Firefox by default [15:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install Firefox on a Chromebook | TechRadar [15:59] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [15:59] schestowitz CrystalMath: meeting today fro #gnu and #fsf ● May 27 [16:00] CrystalMath right [16:00] CrystalMath i just woke up [16:00] CrystalMath i slept 13 hours [16:00] schestowitz they should stay here [16:00] schestowitz many projects will follow [16:00] schestowitz PIA paid FSF last year [16:00] schestowitz but that's not the point [16:01] schestowitz rasengan has remorse and regrets (expressed here) for the flippant move that caused many to panic or react in anger [16:01] schestowitz he should have consulted users before doing it [16:01] CrystalMath he already spoke about those on #fsf [16:01] schestowitz the libera people signed ant-FSF letters [16:01] CrystalMath they seem to be aware [16:01] MinceR they certainly shouldn't move to oftc or libera -- those are their enemies [16:01] schestowitz and some of them work also in other IRC networks [16:01] schestowitz and censor pro-RMS people [16:01] CrystalMath so did OFTC people [16:01] schestowitz freenode is safer for FSF IMHO [16:02] CrystalMath absolutely [16:02] schestowitz yes, OFTC [16:02] schestowitz same volunteers who were in freenode until recently [16:02] schestowitz make sure FSF knows that [16:02] schestowitz CrystalMath: if needed, I can give link [16:02] schestowitz I am 'at work' this evening [16:02] schestowitz so cannot attend there myself [16:02] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights [16:03] schestowitz covers OFTC and freenode's OLD staff [16:03] schestowitz I removed he names from it [16:03] schestowitz but those people are no longer in freenode [16:03] schestowitz FSF and GNU comms must NOT be controlled by people who defame RMS [16:03] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-224-236-91-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [16:03] schestowitz and want to undermine their goals [16:04] schestowitz I dread the idea of those thugs in "Ethics" clothing controlling FSF comms [16:04] schestowitz and banning people etc. [16:04] schestowitz because of some "ism" [16:05] techrights-bot #Quake II RTX Performance For #AMD #Radeon 6000 Series vs. #NVIDIA On #Linux https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Quake-II-RTX-Linux-Initial-Test [16:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quake II RTX Performance For AMD Radeon 6000 Series vs. NVIDIA On Linux - Phoronix [16:06] techrights-bot Outbreak: Endless Nightmares arrives on #GNU #Linux in the latest update https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/outbreak-endless-nightmares-arrives-on-linux-in-the-latest-update [16:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Outbreak: Endless Nightmares arrives on Linux in the latest update | GamingOnLinux [16:08] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:12] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151661 #Linux #TuxMachines [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:14] techrights-bot #IBMNUX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JVBpXiYMKo [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Essentials - systemd: Using the systemctl command - YouTube [16:14] baronhk[m] schestowitz: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/27/artificial-intelligence-ai-or-look-im-not-stupid-they-cant-make-things-like-that-yet/ [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Artificial Intelligence (AI) -or- Look, Im not stupid. They cant make things like that yet. BaronHK's Rants [16:18] techrights-bot This is more posing and posturing from #mozilla which neither respects your privacy nor really cares about Facebook's surveillance; in fact Mozilla added several people from Facebook to its management after the CA scandal. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-approach-to-advertising-on-facebook-platforms/ see http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Our approach to advertising on Facebook platforms - The Mozilla Blog [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights [16:21] techrights-bot #Utopixel blog about porting their title Outer Wonders to Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/utopixel-blog-about-porting-their-title-outer-wonders-to-linux #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [16:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Utopixel blog about porting their title Outer Wonders to Linux | GamingOnLinux [16:21] baronhk[m] SlimSocial in the F-Droid store is the best way to log into Facebook on Android if you're going to. [16:21] schestowitz who me?? [16:21] schestowitz :-D [16:21] schestowitz FB logs me regardless [16:22] baronhk[m] It's 100 KB and basically just reformats their site into an app and tricks Messenger into working. [16:22] schestowitz it has trackers in loads of sites [16:22] schestowitz baronhk[m]: for now [16:22] schestowitz in FB's TODO list [16:22] schestowitz under "things to break" [16:23] baronhk[m] Facebook made "Facebook Lite" work in all countries, but it's not lightweight and it still uses a lot of data. Facebook's app has removed the ability to open links in your own web browser, because they want to load Facebook ads into the websites of their "partners". [16:23] baronhk[m] It fakes them out as "Chrome on Windows". [16:23] baronhk[m] It's pretty much just a shim. [16:23] techrights-bot "Given that game porter / developer Feral Interactive continue to have a great relationship with Creative Assembly, and were responsible for the great #GNULinux port of Total War: THREE KINGDOMS - we can probably expect a #GNU #Linux port of the next one." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/creative-assembly-in-pre-production-for-the-next-total-war-three-kingdoms [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Creative Assembly in pre-production for the next Total War: THREE KINGDOMS | GamingOnLinux [16:27] techrights-bot #femmewashing by litigious and aggressive law firms, looking to frame their #blackmail and #extortion activities by (in effect) hijacking #feminism -- the typical corporate abuse/misuse/co-opting of social causes https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s03gz385018k/women-in-business-law-awards-americas-2021-live-awards-ceremony [16:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Women in Business Law Awards Americas 2021: live awards ceremony | Managing Intellectual Property [16:29] techrights-bot Fake 'awards' and fake 'endorsements' (paid-for crap, badge of honour on sale) from something called "EUROMONEY INSTITUTIONAL INVESTOR PLC AND INSTITUTIONAL INVESTOR..." (it's a #marketing outfit disguised as news or other stuff) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s0gbkqfw9t4x/rising-stars-awards-2021-announcement-and-update [16:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Rising Stars Awards 2021: announcement and update | Managing Intellectual Property [16:29] baronhk[m] So, break them. [16:29] techrights-bot #Games : Quake II RTX, Outbreak: Endless Nightmares, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151663 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:29] baronhk[m] Of course, that only works to an extent. [16:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Quake II RTX, Outbreak: Endless Nightmares, and More | Tux Machines [16:29] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151662 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:30] schestowitz baronhk[m]: disabling JS is the first step [16:30] schestowitz using gemini where possible is another [16:30] baronhk[m] Browsers leak out so much data that given enough bits you can usually isolate a user from that. [16:30] schestowitz but JS isn't the sole culprit [16:30] schestowitz the 1-pixel (even translucent) hack would let them spy on anything that just renders visuals beyond fonts [16:31] schestowitz baronhk[m]: I have a question... [16:31] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO \ [16:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [16:31] schestowitz under the new 2021 outline [16:31] schestowitz added today [16:31] schestowitz is that clear enough to someone like you who isn't a patent expert? [16:31] schestowitz supposed to improve clarify with some context [16:33] techrights-bot "2.11 Intellectual Property means copyright, trade marks, database rights and/or any other intellectual property rights as recognised in any jurisdiction." Those are NOT rights, they are NOT properly. This is just pure propaganda, but they're paid to spread this fiction. By litigation firms. https://www.managingip.com/termsconditions [16:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Terms And Conditions | Managing Intellectual Property [16:33] *baronhk[m]1 has quit (*.net *.split) [16:33] *BifrostBot[m] has quit (*.net *.split) [16:34] *baronhk[m]1 (baronhkner@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lpdeajbkuamcuity) has joined #techrights [16:34] *BifrostBot[m] (bifrostmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-eidomkjffxsexfsf) has joined #techrights [16:34] *karatkievich.freenode.net gives voice to baronhk[m]1 BifrostBot[m] [16:36] techrights-bot Microsoft-sponsored #LiamTung joins the #greenwashing PR http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151593#comment-29772 #boycottZDNet .... it's a #microsoft propaganda outlet, marketing firm pretending to be "news" http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Working for Microsoft and GitHub Now | Tux Machines [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [16:37] techrights-bot Amber Ankerholz (LF/LPI) is also #greenwashing #Microsoft #proprietarysoftware ; our camp is full of corrupt people who take money from companies that attack us; in turn, they lie to us [16:39] *baronhk[m]1 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:39] techrights-bot #linuxfoundation is a paid liar of #microsoft (and no, they don't even USE Linux) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151593#comment-29773 this #greenwashing has gone on for some time... http://techrights.org/2020/09/02/linux-foundation-greenwashing-and-openwashing-for-microsoft/ [16:40] *BifrostBot[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [16:41] techrights-bot 9AM Eastern time: "So any news? Or was this just a rumor?" #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [16:41] *psydroid has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:42] techrights-bot "What happens if you don't select "Confirm" by end-of-day today? Do they separate you as "Voluntary Resignation" on July 1st ... or earlier?" #ibm #layoffs #severance https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b2ADDet#replies [16:42] *baronhk[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Working for Microsoft and GitHub Now | Tux Machines [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Works for Microsoft | Techrights [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Kyndryl stuffing? - post regarding IBM layoffs [16:42] *downey[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:42] *alextee[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [16:46] techrights-bot "This week weve been making a #GNU #Linux powered #Commodore64 and coding with BlitzMax-NG. We discuss technology for kids, bring you a command live love and reply to all your wonderful feedback." https://ubuntupodcast.org/2021/05/27/s14e12-clinics-lifesaver-yanked/ [16:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntupodcast.org | S14E12 Clinics Lifesaver Yanked | Ubuntu Podcast [16:47] techrights-bot "The module went from 140k LOC in 5.15 to 73k LOC in Qt 6," but #qt is now #proprietarySoftware so those supposed improvements can neither be seen nor appreciated. https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2021-May/041458.html [16:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.qt-project.org | [Development] New Qt Multimedia [16:48] techrights-bot #KDEneon 20210527 is out today. https://neon.kde.org/ #kde #gnu #linux [16:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neon.kde.org | KDE neon [16:50] techrights-bot #ClownComputing [sic] is subpar disservice you neither own nor control https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/ibm-cloud-suffers-second-outage-in-five-days/ [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/ibm-cloud-suffers-second-outage-in-five-days/ ) [16:51] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:52] techrights-bot " #RedHat training equips you with skills to stay competitive," says Red Hat, but actually it trains you to add #ibm #vendorLockin like OSPS to places where you work. So they become indebted to and imprisoned by complexity. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-learning-subscription-premium-helps-you-craft-your-skill-building-strategy [16:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Learning Subscription Premium helps you craft your skill-building strategy [16:56] techrights-bot #Mesa , Nodejs, #Zstd Update in #opensuse #Tumbleweed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151664 #TuxMachines [16:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa, Nodejs, Zstd Update in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines [16:56] *wallacer (~quassel@2001:bc8:1824:9a:cafe:babe:b00b:aa05) has joined #techrights [16:58] techrights-bot Enhanced #RaspberryPi GPIO Support Added to #Ubuntu 21.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151603#comment-29774 #gnu #linux [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu on Dell, Raspberry Pi, and More | Tux Machines ● May 27 [17:01] techrights-bot It will be #systemdFree https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/technology-30-years [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | What will technology look like in 30 years? | Enable Sysadmin [17:02] techrights-bot #CatsPi Industrial Lite RPi CM4 carrier board features GbE, RS485, Watchdog MCU - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/27/catspi-industrial-lite-rpi-cm4-carrier-board-features-gbe-rs485-watchdog-mcu/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [17:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | CatsPi Industrial Lite RPi CM4 carrier board features GbE, RS485, Watchdog MCU - CNX Software [17:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: "that's not my interpretation of the FSF mention" I don't see my statement as an interpretation. [17:03] XRevan86 schestowitz: Andrew literally says "It would be pretty interesting to figure out a way to decentralize freenode as an organization not just the domain given all of the things we have been seeing in the FSF situation" [17:04] techrights-bot "More than seven years" is the longest term in these options; shouldn't hardware last a decade or more? IBM doesn't want it to, as it's selling grossly overpriced stuff. https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/server-refresh-schedule [17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | What is your server hardware refresh schedule? | Enable Sysadmin [17:04] schestowitz XRevan86: he's into blockchains and stuff [17:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: Thomas says literally nothing about FSF, Andrew does. And yet ye make a point that tomaw is throwing a stone at FSF. [17:04] schestowitz so he thinks how to impede censorship etc. [17:04] schestowitz XRevan86: yes, I remember wrongly who said what exactly [17:04] schestowitz left versus right, no names in there [17:05] schestowitz Remember that he funded the FSF last year [17:05] schestowitz and he saw it becoming attacked [17:05] schestowitz even a year before paying FSF [17:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: Right, I'm not accusing Andrew, but pointing a flaw in that interpretation of the situation that ye shared yesterday. [17:05] schestowitz if ANYTHING, it shows he wants LESS control [17:05] schestowitz he wants more independence for the network [17:06] schestowitz to prevent one person/org abusing control over freenode [17:06] schestowitz The COC crowd is a threat [17:06] schestowitz they can squat and ruin channels, communities [17:06] schestowitz the ones they don't like or agree with [17:06] schestowitz case of point [17:07] schestowitz earlier today I told zoobab to record the Haar hearing [17:07] schestowitz against the ToS [17:07] schestowitz because that hearing itself is a fraud [17:07] schestowitz and thus we need to expose the fraud that it is [17:07] schestowitz some COC-happy person can COClessly decide to ban the channek [17:07] schestowitz something like [17:07] schestowitz "illegal activity" [17:07] schestowitz we don't want that sort of trash [17:07] schestowitz leave that trash to LFcrosoft [17:08] schestowitz or the former freenode staff that tried to cancel RMS [17:08] schestowitz but not Gates [17:08] schestowitz because RMS calls Epstein "serial rapist" [17:08] schestowitz while Gates went to visit him IN PRISON.... according to his spokespeople.... to GET A NOBEL PRIZE!!! :-) [17:09] schestowitz You know how it goes [17:09] schestowitz you want a nobel price? [17:09] schestowitz *prize [17:09] schestowitz then go visit sex traffickers in a cell [17:09] schestowitz makes perfect sense. LOL [17:09] schestowitz https://news.yahoo.com/bill-gates-hoped-friendship-sex-101918512.html [17:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | Bill Gates hoped his friendship with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein would help him win the Nobel Peace Prize, report says [17:09] schestowitz https://news.yahoo.com/bill-gates-thought-jeffrey-epstein-090005004.html [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | Bill Gates Thought Jeffrey Epstein Was His Ticket to a Nobel Prize, Ex-Staffer Says [17:10] schestowitz LOL [17:10] schestowitz liars [17:10] schestowitz I want Nobel Prize [17:10] schestowitz maybe I should go visit unabomber [17:11] *baronhk[m]1 (baronhkner@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pnxauakkfiyybgfb) has joined #techrights [17:13] MinceR lol [17:14] MinceR well, they do give those out frivolously [17:14] techrights-bot #VzLinux 8.3 released https://www.virtuozzo.com/vzlinux.html #gnu #linux #rhel [17:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.virtuozzo.com | VzLinux [17:14] schestowitz MinceR: the "peace" ones [17:15] schestowitz "the Nobel Peace Prize, report says" [17:15] MinceR yeah [17:15] schestowitz LOL [17:15] schestowitz to a criminal [17:15] schestowitz that would challenge the one of Kissinger and the Hitler nomination for it [17:15] techrights-bot #TDF Annual Report 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151665 #opendocument #libreoffice #TuxMachines [17:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TDF Annual Report 2020 | Tux Machines [17:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 35.95 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 83.30 swarm size (avg): 231.67 [17:17] techrights-bot The crime syndicate from #redmond does a very fine job manipulating and gaming the news. #microsoft #googlebombing tactics don't come cheap; billions spent bribing people for it, other than officials etc. http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ #billgates does the same. Media #bribery [17:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [17:19] techrights-bot If truth was a lady/person, #linuxfoundation would be blood-soaked and red-drenched org. Corrupt liars, people who attack #linux while abusing the brand "Linux". Why? Because it is PROFITABLE to do so, and we know who pays for it... [17:20] techrights-bot #ProprietarySoftware but "LINUX"... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/syxsense-releases-linux-remote-terminal-122300771.html [17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Syxsense Releases New Linux Remote Terminal and Troubleshooting Tools [17:22] techrights-bot #docker turning into #proprietarySoftware reseller https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/05/27/2237624/0/en/Docker-Expands-Trusted-Content-Offerings-for-Developers.html containers as in blobs [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Docker Expands Trusted Content Offerings for Developers [17:22] *baronhk[m]1 has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) [17:23] techrights-bot In a society in which nobody calls herself or himself a "racist" all the #proprietarySoftware companies will tell us they're also "open" and "green". #openwashing #greeenwashing [17:28] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151666 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:29] *alextee[m] (alexteemat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bnkarwgbhwwffbmn) has joined #techrights [17:30] XRevan86 scientes: https://nitter.cc/andy_kelley/status/1397388932367601665 [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Andrew Kelley (@andy_kelley): "freenode just seized control of the #zig channel without warning. we moved to http://libera.chat on day 1, but jesus christ this is so hostile. Now the topic no longer tells people how to get to the new server." | nitter [17:32] techrights-bot Bridging the #OpenGL and #Vulkan divide http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151667 #Graphics #Linux #TuxMachines [17:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bridging the OpenGL and Vulkan divide | Tux Machines [17:32] schestowitz XRevan86: same as before [17:33] schestowitz his mistake, he says [17:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: But Zig, scientes might be interested. [17:33] schestowitz : [17:33] schestowitz [01:21] schestowitz: This was my fault (the bot) and my fault alone. I will be posting a post mortem on the freenode site and share it with you when it's complete. To be clear, I really apologize for it and it was my fault alone. The way it was executed was not good at all. That being said, it was something debated over the course of several days (with [17:34] schestowitz [01:21] a post of a draft policy change prior and feedback in a channel). [17:34] *zleap (~zleap@unaffiliated/zleap) has joined #techrights [17:34] schestowitz XRevan86: yeah, I just added some context [17:34] schestowitz an explanation is much needed [17:35] schestowitz if it takes too long, that can raise suspicion [17:35] schestowitz If it was a bug in a script, then poor technically [17:35] schestowitz like rebooting machines 'by accident' [17:36] MinceR i think it was the wrong approach [17:36] *tagg (~tagglink@ua-84-216-129-48.bbcust.telenor.se) has joined #techrights [17:37] MinceR afaik we do not have the technology to have a bot actually understand what is said in a topic line [17:37] *psydroid (psydroidma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bcjpvdriklfdweot) has joined #techrights [17:37] psydroid Hey Hi Bot! [17:39] MinceR HEY HI [17:40] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:41] schestowitz HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI [robot sci-fi voice] [17:41] *schestowitz presses reset "stfu already!' [17:49] *BaronVladimirHar (baronhkmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bwivvtdbwoqzycrv) has joined #techrights [17:49] BaronVladimirHar Nobody knows what it is anymore. [17:49] BaronVladimirHar It's become synonymous with layoffs and poor customer service. [17:51] BaronVladimirHar The world has fallen into crippling depression from unemployment and social isolation while companies "economize" with "AI". [17:52] schestowitz the shopping places have HEY HI [17:52] schestowitz it's really "Smart" [17:52] schestowitz it can detect when you put a shopping basket on it [17:53] schestowitz and then tell me to do all the work :) [17:53] schestowitz I say, "oh hi!" [17:53] schestowitz tbh, I NEVER used them [17:53] schestowitz I refuse to [17:53] BaronVladimirHar Service workers take the brunt of it because "AI" has replaced actual customer service and "work from home" has decimated the expensive coffee pouring industry. [17:53] BaronVladimirHar Meanwhile, hyperinflation sets in. [17:53] schestowitz yeah [17:53] schestowitz well put [17:53] schestowitz about cooffee machines [17:53] schestowitz lol [17:53] schestowitz this morning rianne asked me [17:54] schestowitz who took the office's coffee machine? [17:54] schestowitz with capsules and all [17:54] schestowitz overpriced crap [17:54] schestowitz we shut down the office permanently last July [17:54] schestowitz it's a MASSIVE coffee maket [17:54] schestowitz but to use it you need capsules and stuff [17:54] schestowitz boutique BS [17:55] BaronVladimirHar Chicago is desperate to get office work back up and tourism going again, but it's not working so far. [17:55] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-224-236-91-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [17:55] BaronVladimirHar Too many offices shut down and people working remotely found that they can live much better on the same salary by moving out of the city or to some other state. [17:56] BaronVladimirHar The real estate bubble in Chicago was propped up by people living in the city because it's where they worked and in many cases, that's just not even necessary and hasn't been for years. [17:57] BaronVladimirHar People and industries just fall into tired old habits and never evaluate them until a crisis forces it. [17:57] BaronVladimirHar Chicago will be lucky if it doesn't go full on Detroit. [17:58] BaronVladimirHar https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-31/chicago-projects-2-billion-deficit-through-2021-on-pandemic [17:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chicago Projects $2 Billion Deficit Through 2021 on Pandemic - Bloomberg [17:58] BaronVladimirHar They've been running on a budget deficit of at least $500-600 million a year for some time and that was under Rahm Emanuel, who was making cuts to the city budget. [17:58] *tagg has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) ● May 27 [18:00] BaronVladimirHar Lori Lightfoot has more than doubled that deficit, and this comes at a time of collapsing rents and rising crime and falling tourism. [18:01] BaronVladimirHar People can't remain in the city if there's no job for them to go to. [18:01] BaronVladimirHar https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-26/amazon-agrees-to-buy-mgm-film-studio-for-8-45-billion [18:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon Agrees to Buy MGM Film Studio for $8.45 Billion - Bloomberg [18:02] BaronVladimirHar Amazon now owns the Stargate franchise. [18:03] BaronVladimirHar https://www.gateworld.net/news/2021/05/amazin-buying-mgm-what-does-mean-stargate-franchise-2021/ [18:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gateworld.net | Amazon Is Buying MGM. What Does It Mean For The Stargate Franchise? GateWorld [18:04] BaronVladimirHar Destiny didn't work out well because of the slow moving plot, unlikable characters, and taking itself too seriously. [18:05] BaronVladimirHar But it should be easy enough for a new series to ignore Destiny. Wherever they ended up was already so far away from the Milky Way that it required a 9 symbol gate address to get there. [18:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [18:05] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:05] BaronVladimirHar That would put Destiny many times further away than the Ori galaxy. [18:05] *BifrostBot[m] (bifrostmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ekyfgyuwafhjysdg) has joined #techrights [18:05] *downey[m] (michaeldow@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xrdpqqscifhwuxnc) has joined #techrights [18:05] *BaronVladimirHa4 (baronhkner@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zfaigtjoftmwbgux) has joined #techrights [18:08] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:08] BaronVladimirHar Nevertheless, the series left a lot of unanswered questions with the cancellation. [18:09] BaronVladimirHar I don't know where Amazon's purchase leaves the Stargate franchise. Sci-Fi is always a hard sell on production because it costs a lot to produce. [18:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:10] BaronVladimirHar Streaming video platforms can just put in a lot of junk to populate lists and sell subscriptions to people who forget that their card is being billed each month. [18:10] BaronVladimirHar Back when it was cable, it was a hard pitch because advertisers found that it was the least receptive audience. [18:13] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:13] BaronVladimirHar Comment: "Stargate Universe was a damn good show. It was Stargate in setting and they finally moved away from alien enemy series bad guy." [18:13] BaronVladimirHar Wrong. First of all, it was a formula that worked. [18:13] BaronVladimirHar Secondly, there were "bad guys" attacking them all the time. [18:15] BaronVladimirHar Mostly the drones, but also an invasion of the ship by the Lucian Alliance. [18:27] BaronVladimirHar https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/05/27/1000494207/a-10-322-tab-for-a-sleep-apnea-study-is-enough-to-wreck-one-patients-rest [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Patient Charged $10,322 For Overnight Sleep Test For Sleep Apnea : Shots - Health News : NPR [18:27] BaronVladimirHar Most people in America just live with chronic health problems as best they can until they die from it. [18:28] BaronVladimirHar $10,000 for a sleep study to see if you can get a CPAP machine which will cost you a lot more than that. Most of those machines run proprietary software and getting the settings changed means a new sleep study. [18:29] BaronVladimirHar I came across an article the other day about some open source project to reverse engineer these machines and change their settings on your own. [18:29] BaronVladimirHar It's dangerous, but people do it. [18:30] BaronVladimirHar Mom's ex-husband had and old one and when the motor started going out, he opened it up to change the settings with a screwdriver or something, and the doctor asked what his settings were later when the machine crapped out on him. [18:30] BaronVladimirHar Mom woke up because there was smoke everywhere in the room from the motor burning out, and he was sleeping through it. [18:30] BaronVladimirHar So it told the doctor, "I don't know. I just changed it from pffffff to WHOOOOOSH!". [18:31] BaronVladimirHar I mean, that sounds like something I would do. You know, "I'm not giving that fucking doctor $10,000 to figure out what to do with this thing!". Crack it open. [18:32] BaronVladimirHar But the new ones have software to get in the way of that. [18:35] BaronVladimirHar To be honest, I might have sleep apnea. I don't know. So far I've gotten away with not having a machine for it. [18:36] BaronVladimirHar I propped myself up with some pillows and sleep at an angle, otherwise I wake up gasping for air sometimes and part of my body gone numb. [18:36] BaronVladimirHar It gets worse when you put on weight, and everyone has put on weight due to COVID. [18:37] BaronVladimirHar To be fair, the government has probably managed to kill as many people due to suicide and bad health in general because of the "mitigations" as the damned virus has. [18:44] BaronVladimirHar Chicago has been openly wondering how much of the public square they can get away with renaming to something involving black people. [18:45] BaronVladimirHar Most recently, they've moved in and threatened to rename Lake Shore Drive, which is one of the most famous street names in the country. Everyone knows you mean Chicago when you say it. There are songs about it that won't mean anything if they change it. [18:47] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [18:48] BaronVladimirHar While they take the name off of famous Americans from history, including the signers of the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution, and even presidents off of the school buildings, streets, and parks, they leave the name of/monuments to fascists from the second World War all over the city. [18:48] AdmFubar https://prospect.org/cabinet-watch/chris-coons-working-to-install-business-friendly-candidate-key-patent-position/ [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-prospect.org | Chris Coons Working to Install Business-Friendly Candidate for Key Patent Position - The American Prospect [18:48] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [18:49] BaronVladimirHar The only ethical thing to do with "IP" is piracy. Just make sure to cover your ass so they don't know it was you. [18:49] BaronVladimirHar It's fitting that when they needed a goon squad of jackbooted thugs to enforce "IP" in the United States, it was ICE. [18:51] BaronVladimirHar https://www.npr.org/2021/05/27/1000780650/every-possible-explanation-for-covid-19-should-be-investigated-expert-says [18:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Why Wuhan Lab Is Worth A Look In Search For Pandemic Origins : NPR [18:52] BaronVladimirHar After over a year of accusing anyone who said COVID leaked from a Chinese lab a horrible racist that was encouraging violence against Asian people (which has somehow only been a problem in Democrat cities, go figure), the Biden Administration says it's a theory that may have merit. [18:52] BaronVladimirHar *of being a horrible racist, rather [18:53] BaronVladimirHar Trump really wasn't far off when he said "poorly ran Democrat cities". [18:53] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [18:54] BaronVladimirHar $2 billion deficits, most violent place in America, rents going up double digit percentages until COVID lockdowns caused riots and board-ups. That's what Chicago is now. [18:55] BaronVladimirHar Double digit percentage rent hikes will return if things ever do go back to "normal", so in some ways people should hope things don't. [18:55] BaronVladimirHar They'll have to compete with others for apartments and bid each other up. [18:55] BaronVladimirHar My landlord is still advertising available units in my building at the same price we pay. [18:56] BaronVladimirHar Even though inflation is running something awful, it's probably hard to raise prices when many people are out of work and fleeing the city. [18:56] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@2601:140:887f:bad0::3aee) has joined #techrights [18:57] BaronVladimirHar So he sits on the price and waits and hopes that things recover to where hikes are back on the menu. What do you do? Waukegan keeps losing residents every year, and when you lose 1,000+ people every year, they don't need apartments anymore. [18:58] BaronVladimirHar The city was at something like 88,000 or so a decade ago and it'll be doing good to be at 79,000 after the final numbers are in. ● May 27 [19:01] schestowitz AdmFubar: he's bribed [19:01] schestowitz Coons [19:01] schestowitz techrights.org/2019/05/26/senators-tillis-and-coons/ [19:01] schestowitz bought politician [19:02] BaronVladimirHar I'm wondering what they'll do with all of those empty offices, myself. [19:02] schestowitz house the homeless? [19:02] BaronVladimirHar LOL! no [19:02] schestowitz spread around overcrowded homes? [19:02] BaronVladimirHar Although, Los Angeles is paying $2,800 per "tent" for the homeless right now. [19:03] BaronVladimirHar Which is almost double what it would cost to get them an apartment even in that market. [19:03] BaronVladimirHar They pay that much because as soon as the federal money runs out, they plan to go back to doing absolutely nothing for them. [19:04] BaronVladimirHar Right now, Lake County is putting them up in motels, which is what ran me and Mandy out of the one we were in. [19:05] BaronVladimirHar As soon as the manager heard the government had to put them somewhere, she raised the rate from $1,080 a month to something closer to $1,400. [19:06] BaronVladimirHar If it was $1,080 a month I would have just stayed. I mean, hell, the electric and heat run your total costs up to nearly that anyway. [19:07] BaronVladimirHar We're not living too close to the edge. I started up a nice little retirement account for Mandy back in late March and Walmart started matching the funds this month. [19:08] BaronVladimirHar I was talking to some people he worked with and they're not even taking the entire match. [19:08] BaronVladimirHar Even if you requested a withdrawal every now and then and paid the fees and penalty tax, you'd still have more money than if you put nothing in. [19:09] BaronVladimirHar There's absolutely no way you end up worse off. [19:10] BaronVladimirHar If you don't take any other benefit from an employer, take that. [19:10] BaronVladimirHar They have no incentive to convert them into apartments. [19:11] BaronVladimirHar They'd just end up oversaturating that market more and losing more money than leaving the office space empty and decaying into an urban eyesore. [19:11] BaronVladimirHar Sprawl and boom-bust economic cycles. [19:12] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:12] BaronVladimirHar Keynesian Economics rides again, and some prices at the grocery store are up nearly 30%. [19:12] BaronVladimirHar Of course, nobody reports this. [19:13] BaronVladimirHar The goal of the news is to avoid panic and tell you about the Kardashians getting their assholes bleached. [19:15] BaronVladimirHar There's definitely cartel behavior in housing though. They deliberately keep supply off the market to prop up sky high prices. [19:15] BaronVladimirHar Even if it means letting the supply rot and fall over. [19:16] BaronVladimirHar If you adjust the prices down then people will get used to that. Lumber is up to the point where it apparently costs $36,000 more to build a house than it did last year, but people build while millions sit empty. [19:16] BaronVladimirHar Maybe they should scrap them, for the lumber. [19:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 30.11 swarm size (avg): 231.72 [19:17] BaronVladimirHar This is why I laugh when people say if we switched to Communism, it wouldn't use resources efficiently. [19:18] kingoffrance well, cartel behavior is efficient for cartels :) efficient for who :) [19:18] BaronVladimirHar The mortgage forbearance is just letting people sit there while the payments pile up. Whenever it ends, people will toss their keys in the mailbox and head to the bankruptcy court. Like "rent moratoriums". 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[20:27] phobos I still can't believe that the USPS spy program is legal in any way [20:28] phobos Then again, in a day and age where supporters of a previous president are being incarcerated in Gulag like conditions without charges filed nor bail granted while prosecutors try to decide what if any charges to level against them... [20:28] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-224-236-91-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [20:48] kingoffrance "legal" just means formal. lawful means "in the right" [20:48] kingoffrance legal == i have a badge [20:48] kingoffrance lawful == i am supposed to allowed to have my badge [20:48] samiamsam uh [20:48] samiamsam that is not correct [20:48] kingoffrance it was [20:48] kingoffrance it has been rewritten [20:48] samiamsam legal means having to do with the law. lawful means in compliance with the law. [20:48] kingoffrance i kind dig a cite [20:48] kingoffrance what is "the law" ? [20:49] kingoffrance lol [20:49] kingoffrance many many kinds of law [20:49] kingoffrance written and not [20:49] kingoffrance "the law" doesnt exist any more than "the bible" [20:49] kingoffrance which has many religions in it [20:49] kingoffrance theres more than one country too of course [20:49] kingoffrance if nothing else "the law" lol [20:49] kingoffrance * i can dig up [20:49] MinceR "I am the law!" [20:50] samiamsam the law of some jurisdiction, of course. [20:50] MinceR "Someone stole my doughnuts, and now, you're all gonna pay!" [20:50] kingoffrance lemme dig, one sec [20:51] kingoffrance "rule of law" also has a few definitions but not to digress too much [20:51] kingoffrance with scalia it meant "formalism" this legal thing [20:51] kingoffrance so yes, that is the modern view [20:52] MinceR scalia just says whatever he believes will win the case for his party [20:53] kingoffrance i thought he died but yeah [20:53] samiamsam the new ones are worse [20:53] kingoffrance http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=*&Query=lawful Lawful means conformable to the principle, spirit, or essence of the law, and is applicable to moral as well as juridical law. Legal means conformable to the letter or rules of the law as it is administered in the courts; conformable to juridical law. Legal is often used as antithetical to equitable, but law [20:53] kingoffrance ful is seldom used in that sense. [20:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dict.org- lawful [20:54] kingoffrance that is actually itself rewritten, equity and law used to be opposite, but not going there [20:54] kingoffrance the point there is just legal is letter, law is spirit [20:55] kingoffrance so a thing may be : one or other, both, neither [20:56] kingoffrance note law applies to morals [20:56] kingoffrance legal very much has nothing to do with morals [20:56] *phobos has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:56] kingoffrance yes, that is archaic, but a very important switcheroo IMO [20:57] kingoffrance basically without this separation, there needs to be some term to indicate [20:57] kingoffrance so i am ok with the switcheroo -- IF someone has a new term that is equivalent [20:58] kingoffrance anyways, back to usps, yes most the comments seemed of that nature [20:59] kingoffrance i could find more sources if someone doesnt consider that authoritative or whatever, but it is succinct. if you know what to look for yuo can find this elsewhere ● May 27 [21:00] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [21:02] kingoffrance "as it is administered in the courts" point there is whatever courts/whoever happens to be doing today, right or wrong -- appearance, formalism, etc. [21:02] kingoffrance thats basically why there must be such a separation -- else you get court/gov/whoever is infallible, can do no wrong, etc. [21:07] BaronVladimirHar I'll be doing SlimSocial on my next Android app spotlight. [21:08] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:08] BaronVladimirHar It handled Facebook without their app taking over your phone and spying on other apps and running your battery down. [21:10] kingoffrance https://law.jrank.org/pages/8110/Lawful.html The latter merely denotes compliance with technical or formal rules, whereas the former usually signifies a moral substance or ethical permissibility. [21:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-law.jrank.org | Lawful - Legal, Fraud, Estate, and Former - JRank Articles [21:11] XRevan86 https://isfreenodedeadyet.com/ [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isfreenodedeadyet [21:12] BaronVladimirHar Many of them were released without being charged bail and then committed more crimes while they were out. [21:12] BaronVladimirHar One shot an endangered cat and then posed for a photo with a gun. Felon in possession of a gun due to a prior felony. [21:12] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/27/audacity_cla/ [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | The Audacity: Audio tool finds new and exciting ways to annoy contributors with a Contributor License Agreement The Register [21:12] BaronVladimirHar The judge revoked bail due to that. [21:12] XRevan86 AdmFubar: noooooooooo [21:14] MinceR sounds like time to fork [21:16] MinceR as for the crApp Store part: who fucking cares? fuck crApple and fuck the crApp Store [21:16] MinceR if they don't want free software then they shouldn't have free software [21:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 70.73 swarm size (avg): 231.76 [21:22] *tagg (~tagglink@ua-84-216-129-48.bbcust.telenor.se) has joined #techrights [21:25] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:27] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.22) has joined #techrights [21:29] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-224-236-91-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [21:31] *tagg has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:52] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) [21:56] *koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights ● May 27 [22:10] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [22:21] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:28] phobos BaronVladimirHar: What about the ones whose only crime was showing up to support Trump? The Feds recently went into Idaho and arrested two ~70 year old men for just showing up to the rally and walking near, but not in the capital building [22:29] phobos And the others sitting in solitary who have not been charged with anything, but have been denied access to lawyers, phone calls, etc, and have been beaten [22:29] phobos A spot light needs to be placed on that [22:30] phobos One was beaten so badly that he may be blind [22:30] MinceR abolish the government [22:30] phobos https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/capitol-riot-suspect-viciously-beaten-in-jail-may-lose-sight-attorney-says/ar-BB1fpxUE [22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Capitol riot suspect 'viciously' beaten in jail, may lose sight, attorney says [22:30] phobos MinceR: Something. [22:31] MinceR also abolish the megacorporations and the churches [22:31] phobos kinda already has been [22:31] *sebsebseb (~sebastian@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #techrights [22:31] phobos one set of laws for thee and another for we [22:31] sebsebseb MinceR: Apple [22:31] MinceR sebsebseb: dehomag [22:32] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.110) has joined #techrights [22:36] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:36] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:43] *phobos has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) ● May 27 [23:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 35.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 63.70 swarm size (avg): 231.79 [23:20] *sebsebseb has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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