●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 27, 2022 ●● ● Jun 27 [00:11] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/roe-v-wade-overturned/10-arrested-in-oregon-night-of-rage-protest-over-scotus-roe-v-wade-decision/ [00:11] TR Bot 10 arrested in Oregon Night of Rage protest over SCOTUS Roe v. Wade decision | WGN-TV [00:11] DaemonFC Oregon is a fucking stupid state anyway. [00:11] DaemonFC Portland isn't where that ends, unfortunately. [00:12] DaemonFC There's a law against pumping your own gas in Oregon and New Jersey. Everyone else has been pumping their own gas and, you know, I haven't blown myself up yet. To be fair, it is a nozzle, with a handle, and three buttons you could push depending on which kind of gas you want. [00:12] DaemonFC Better turn this over to a professional. He went to high school and got straight Ds, you know. [00:12] DaemonFC :) [00:12] DaemonFC I asked someone in New Jersey if they really went along with that. [00:13] DaemonFC They said half the time you're out there honking your horn trying to get the guy to even come out and pump the gas until you give up and do it yourself, illegally. [00:17] DaemonFC https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/new-york-man-cycling-across-america-is-bitten-by-dog-in-illinois-i-just-kept-going [00:17] TR Bot New York man cycling across America is bitten by dog in Illinois [00:17] DaemonFC National news. [00:24] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/weekend-random-randomness-6-18-22-15.jpg [00:27] DaemonFC MinceR, That's great and all, but did you hear about the man bicycling from New York who got bit on the ass by a dog? [00:27] DaemonFC He tried to pepper spray it and missed, you know. [00:27] DaemonFC Very important story. 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TotalIn: 17 MB TotalOut: 3.2 MB [03:09] TR News Does email spark joy? gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-06-26%20Does%20email%20spark%20joy%3F [03:09] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:10] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D625.jpg [03:11] IPFS QmRdcPDNXG7La9xrpj9Te3TGetenUACvpQoAsNtm1XNbZY [03:11] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:15] *techrights_guest|47 (~490b85f4@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [03:16] schestowitz_TR hi techrights_guest|47 [03:23] TR News "The Web is broken, which is almost as much as to say that the Internet is broken too. No news here, no need to even link to what has been already said a zillion times" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1043 [03:24] TR News Smol Web Survey gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1042 [03:25] TR News "I saw sud0nim's post about feeling alone. Sud0, I'd give you a hug, man. 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BaronHK's Rants [03:44] *mib_pnf2bd (~490b85f4@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [03:45] TR News LINMOB.net - Weekly #MobilePOSIX Update (25/2022): Better Processing in Megapixels and another report on the PinePhone Pro Cameras Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166518 [03:45] TR Bot LINMOB.net - Weekly #MobilePOSIX Update (25/2022): Better Processing in Megapixels and another report on the PinePhone Pro Cameras | Tux Machines [03:48] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166519 [03:48] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [03:49] *mib_pnf2bd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [03:55] *mib_pnf2bd (~490b85f4@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 129.85 ● Jun 27 [04:00] *mib_pnf2bd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [04:05] *mib_pnf2bd (~490b85f4@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [04:05] *alf has quit (Quit: connection closed.) 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I remember opening the box and see all the goodies it came with. Headphone, a charger, and a micro fiber cloth. Now in 2022 the a base model iPhone 13 pro cost 999 and only comes with a type C to type C charging cable not even a charging brick. In 2016 I bought a gtx 1080ti for 700 dollars. Now 2022 a 3080ti cost 1,200 which is 800 dollars less than I spent building the PC [04:52] DaemonFC itself. All this and people still get paid pretty much. I understand all these items aren't considered necessities but what the fuck." [04:55] *mib_pnf2bd (~490b85f4@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [04:58] *hollander (~hollander@eisxmsaznv6uu.irc) has joined #techrights [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 27 [05:00] *mib_pnf2bd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [05:05] *mib_pnf2bd (~490b85f4@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [05:07] *Guest166 (~d8a05725@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [05:10] *mib_pnf2bd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [05:15] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR, More people complaining about Airbnb on Reddit. [05:15] *mib_pnf2bd (~490b85f4@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [05:15] DaemonFC Stallman doesn't get why low interest rates are bad, and here's another reason. [05:16] DaemonFC Airbnb takes advantage of low interest rates to take on a massive amount of debt, just like hedge funds that have been buying trailer parks and apartment buildings and then jacking up the rent. 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I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [06:19] *mib_pnf2bd (~490b85be@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [06:24] *mib_pnf2bd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [06:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:46] matey "it doesnt matter what comes" is a pretty fucking glib sentiment for breath mints really [06:46] matey you could be dying of AIDS, it doesnt matter because-- WITH MENTOS FRESH YOURE FULL OF LIFE! [06:46] matey fresh goes better with death and taxes-- fresh goes better WITH MENTOS YOURE A SOCIOPATH! [06:47] matey mentos! the zero fucks mint! [06:49] TR News "When Kurt Reheiser returned to the IBM i server after a 15-year hiatus away the platform, things werent a lot different than how he left them." https://www.itjungle.com/2022/06/27/guild-mortgage-takes-the-20-year-option-for-modernization/ [06:49] TR Bot Guild Mortgage Takes The 20-Year Option For Modernization - IT Jungle [06:49] TR News "How many monthly iPhone bills is a Power10-based entry server worth?" https://www.itjungle.com/2022/06/27/ibm-i-licensing-part-3-can-the-hardware-bundle-be-cheaper-than-a-smartphone/ [06:49] TR Bot IBM i Licensing, Part 3: Can The Hardware Bundle Be Cheaper Than A Smartphone? - IT Jungle [06:49] matey "how does he look, nurse?" [06:50] matey *nurse shakes her head and pulls the sheet over him* [06:50] matey *doctor pops a mint and dances around the room smiling* [06:50] matey mentos! the fresh-maker! [06:51] matey "nothing gets to you-- staying fresh staying cool!" *doctor picks up the body and starts swaying around like dancing with the stars* [06:51] matey something for justin timberlake to work on if he does more comedy [06:52] matey maybe they put booze in them [06:53] matey "it doesnt matter what comes, mentos just gets you drunk-- youre gonna be to pissed to care" [06:53] TR News Easily Get 3rd-Party Software on Ubuntu With Deb-Get https://fosspost.org/deb-get-install-3rd-party-software-ubuntu/ Source: fosspost [06:53] TR Bot Easily Get 3rd-Party Software on Ubuntu With Deb-Get [06:53] matey "nothing gets to you, you could puke on your shoes, cause with mentos youre fucking smashed!" [06:54] matey "drunk goes better with mentoxication-- drunk goes better with huh, wha? eh whatever man!" [06:54] TR News Whats new in Security for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS? https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-in-security-for-ubuntu-22-04-lts [06:54] TR Bot new in Security for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS? | Ubuntu [06:56] matey true story, the guy who wrote the mentos jingle was later found with several bodies in his attic, which was filled with mints [06:58] TR News KaOS 2022.06 Release Adds KDE Plasma 5.25 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166345#comment-34149 [06:58] TR Bot KaOS 2022.06 | Tux Machines [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 27 [07:00] TR News 2006: Microsoft 'pays' Novell to stop competing with Windows. Microsoft does the same thing, still, with Azure, WSL, LF etc. But we're meant not to pay attention. Regulators are corrupt. [07:00] matey lance made little candies that were basically indistinguishible from mentos, except the flavours were slightly better and they were just slightly stale right out of the factory, and they didnt have the psycho dancing around in the adverts [07:01] matey and they were just slightly stale right out of the factory <- this was lances trademark and they were very serious about infringers [07:05] matey the music video for "beautiful day" by u2 was a proposal for a mentos advert, but they didnt use it because theyre not as popular in the uk and ireland [07:06] matey in it, bono grabs someones luggage, eats someone elses apple, and shoves his smiling face against a revolving door while walking around in circles, then lays down on the luggage carousel [07:06] matey but he was waiting for the green light to actually eat a mint first [07:07] matey he also prances across the runway but unfortunately doesnt take off and fly away for parts unknown [07:08] TR News Panic of 1907/2022 https://matt-rickard.com/panic-of-1907/ Source: matt-rickard [07:08] TR Bot Panic of 1907/2022 [07:08] matey "cocaine is a hell of a drug"-- rick james [07:18] TR News Links 26/06/2022: Linux 5.19 RC4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/linux-5-19-rc4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/linux-5-19-rc4/ [07:18] TR Bot Links 26/06/2022: Linux 5.19 RC4 | Techrights [07:22] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166521 [07:22] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:22] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166523 [07:22] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [07:22] TR News Canonical and IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166524 [07:22] TR Bot Canonical and IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:29] *Guest166 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:30] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [07:30] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:30] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@zisyvswuxwtzs.irc) has joined #techrights [07:30] *Guest166 (~d8a05725@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [07:30] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:31] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:34] *Guest166 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [07:42] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 27 [08:16] *matey has quit (connection closed) [08:38] TR News "The found solutions seem not that great or work partially only or not work like I expected them to work." https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2022/06/25/split-audio-files-into-parts/ | Source: Vermaden [08:38] TR Bot Split Audio Files into Parts | [08:38] TR News "I know how to select the next sibiling of an element with div + p." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/previous-sibling-selector/ | Source: Jim Nielsen [08:38] TR Bot A Previous Sibling Selector - Jim Nielsens Blog [08:39] TR News "The guys at Xerox PARC and Apple who invented the GUI knew this. The clowns at Red Hat don't" https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/84023.html | Source: Liam Proven [08:39] TR Bot liam_on_linux | Why I think the GNOME designers are incompetent [08:41] TR News "ESP32-C5 packs a dual-band Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) radio, along with the 802.11b/g/n standard for backward compatibility." https://www.espressif.com/en/news/ESP32-C5 | [08:41] TR Bot ESP32-C5: Espressifs first Dual-Band Wi-Fi 6 MCU | Espressif Systems [08:42] TR News "The art of Communicating with Computers is called coding, It allows us to be able to communicate with computers" https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-learning-to-code-can-change-your-life/ | Source: Geeks For Geeks [08:42] TR Bot How Learning To Code Can Change Your Life? - GeeksforGeeks [08:42] TR News Programming change control: "The two widely used first-generation version control systems were SCCS and RCS" https://matt-rickard.com/a-new-version-control-system/ | Source: Matt Rickard [08:42] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://matt-rickard.com/a-new-version-control-system/ ) [08:43] TR News Serf for spyware: "Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that the company is unveiling more ways for creators to make money on Facebook and Instagram." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/06/21/meta-monetization-tools-facebook-instagram/ | Source: Digital Music News [08:43] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/06/21/meta-monetization-tools-facebook-instagram/ ) [08:43] TR News "But common student items have routinely set off the Evolv scanners, among them laptops, umbrellas, three-ring binders, spiral-bound notebooks and metal water bottles." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/26/business/school-safety-technology.html | Source: New York Times [08:43] TR Bot Schools Are Spending Billions on High-Tech Defense for Mass Shootings - 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SoylentNews [08:53] TR News Riseup Pad: Tor relays https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-relay-meetup-june-2022-keep Source: pad [08:53] TR Bot Riseup Pad [08:56] TR News "Ubuntu 22.04 LTS introduces optimised kernel versions for different platforms." https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-in-security-for-ubuntu-22-04-lts | Source: Ubuntu [08:56] TR Bot new in Security for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS? | Ubuntu [08:57] TR News "Compulabs new IoT gateway provides support for two processor models, the C1800Q and the C1800QM." Compulab should shun criminals from Microsoft. Bad neighbourhood. https://linuxgizmos.com/compulabs-new-iot-gateway-is-based-on-nxps-i-mx-8m-processor-and-runs-on-linux-ms-azure-iot-and-node-red/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [08:57] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/compulabs-new-iot-gateway-is-based-on-nxps-i-mx-8m-processor-and-runs-on-linux-ms-azure-iot-and-node-red/ ) [08:58] TR News "Hello folks, in this guide, we will cover how to set static ip address on Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) step by step" https://www.linuxbuzz.com/set-static-ip-address-on-ubuntu/ | Source: Linux Buzz [08:58] TR Bot How to Set Static IP Address on Ubuntu 22.04 [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 27 [09:07] TR News IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 26, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/irc-log-260622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/irc-log-260622/ [09:07] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 26, 2022 | Techrights [09:11] TR News "If you ever mention to a normal person that youre a hacker, and they might ask you if you can do something nefarious" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/26/want-a-break-from-hardware-hacking-try-bitburner/ | Source: Hackaday [09:11] TR Bot A Break From Hardware Hacking? Try Bitburner | Hackaday [09:15] TR News "An in-depth study among 50 Harvard lawyers shows that downloading and streaming pirated content is widely tolerated and even supported" https://torrentfreak.com/harvard-lawyers-dont-think-that-piracy-is-theft-research-finds-220626/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:15] TR Bot Lawyers Don't Think That Piracy is Theft, Research Finds * TorrentFreak [09:19] TR News Slave Labor https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/26/slave-labor/ | Source: Scheerpost [09:19] TR Bot Labor scheerpost.com [09:20] TR News Climate https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/26/europe-dumps-its-climate-commitments-after-facing-shortage-of-russian-gas/ | Source: Scheerpost [09:20] TR Bot Dumps Its Climate Commitments After Facing Shortage of Russian Gas scheerpost.com [09:21] TR News Maritime surveillance https://digit.site36.net/2022/06/26/maritime-surveillance-spy-satellites-in-frontex-operation/ | Source: Site36 [09:21] TR Bot Maritime surveillance: Spy satellites in Frontex operation Security Architectures in the EU [09:21] TR News Billionaires like Bill Gates, the famous criminal who bribes these authors NOT to mention him https://truthout.org/articles/billionaires-avoid-taxes-on-an-epic-scale-heres-how/ | Source: TruthOut [09:21] TR Bot Billionaires Avoid Taxes on an Epic Scale. 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[09:22] TR News "The spirit of unionizing is in the air, from Amazon to Starbucks." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/26/progressive-food-company-amys-kitchen-faces-multiple-unfair-labor-practice-charges/ | Source: Scheerpost [09:22] TR Bot Food Company Amys Kitchen Faces Multiple Unfair Labor Practice Charges scheerpost.com [09:25] TR News When it comes to assistance, on an international scale, when US says "help" it means "sell" (or offer loans) [09:25] TR News "Mother of all Demos" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/26/odd-inputs-and-peculiar-peripherals-chorded-keyset-recreates-engelbarts-vision/ | Source: Hackaday [09:25] TR Bot Inputs And Peculiar Peripherals: Chorded Keyset Recreates Engelbarts Vision | Hackaday [09:26] TR News "In a recent video, [SomeSkillStudio] created a tidy tool storage system for their slim garage workbench." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/26/this-custom-workbench-will-make-you-flip/ | Source: Hackaday [09:26] TR Bot Custom Workbench Will Make You Flip | Hackaday [09:28] TR News Amy's Kitchen https://truthout.org/articles/organic-food-maker-amys-kitchen-faces-several-unfair-labor-practice-charges/ | Source: TruthOut [09:28] TR Bot Organic Food Maker Amy's Kitchen Faces Several Unfair Labor Practice Charges [09:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [09:28] TR News "Night vision projects are great, and the hardware available to hobbyists just gets better and better." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/26/diy-night-vision-where-four-is-better-than-two/ | Source: Hackaday [09:28] TR Bot Night Vision, Where Four Is Better Than Two | Hackaday [09:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [09:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:42] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166525 [09:42] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [09:42] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [09:43] TR News Devices With GNU/Linux and Hardware Hacking Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166526 [09:43] TR Bot Devices With GNU/Linux and Hardware Hacking | Tux Machines [09:43] TR News Why I think the GNOME designers are incompetent Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166527 [09:43] TR Bot Why I think the GNOME designers are incompetent | Tux Machines [09:43] TR News Links 27/06/2022: GNOME Design Rant | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/gnome-design-rant/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/gnome-design-rant/ [09:43] TR Bot Links 27/06/2022: GNOME Design Rant | Techrights [09:52] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [09:58] *matey (~matey@964c847ccybdw.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jun 27 [10:18] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [10:27] psydroid2 https://www.aroged.com/2022/06/16/graviton-presented-the-angara-motherboard-with-the-russian-arm-processor-baikal-m/ [10:27] TR Bot presented the Angara motherboard with the Russian Arm-processor Baikal-M - Aroged [10:31] matey with-the-russian-arm-processor-baikal-m [10:31] matey but a lot of places cant get that more easily than americans can get cuban cigars [10:32] matey (and maybe wouldnt want to until russia withdraws) [10:32] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [10:33] matey or if you buy it from a 3rd party, maybe sanctions dont apply..? [10:33] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #techrights [10:33] matey i try not to get things from amazon, even from stores [10:33] matey but i also know that (even when i dont know) sometimes stores are stocking from amazon [10:34] matey especially smaller stores (get things from amazon all the time) [10:34] matey i still prefer buying in person-- but its not a sure way to avoid money going to giafam [10:35] matey as to how i deal with that-- its an imperfect world, just try within reason [10:35] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@rx5njc8g9jxgi.irc) has joined #techrights [10:35] matey i dont grill the owners [10:35] matey "WHERE ARE THE OTHER STOCK COMING FROM?" [10:35] matey "i swear i dont know" [10:35] matey "SWEAR TO ME!!!!" [10:36] matey but if i know, im way less likely to purchase it [10:38] *KiKi_ has quit (connection closed) [10:39] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@b3g8b57uk9y4e.irc) has joined #techrights [10:41] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [10:42] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:47] schestowitz_TR or if you buy it from a 3rd party, maybe sanctions dont apply..? [10:47] schestowitz_TR china. [10:47] schestowitz_TR iran also buys from china. [10:48] schestowitz_TR "The Enemy Always Adapts" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/25/why-sanctions-always-fail/ | Source: Scheerpost [10:48] TR Bot Sanctions Always Fail scheerpost.com [10:48] schestowitz_TR The corporate media hardly paid attention https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/23/afghanistan_earthquake_hunger_1_000_people | Source: Democracy Now [10:48] TR Bot Earthquake in Afghanistan Kills 1,000+. As Death Toll Rises, U.S. Sanctions Limit International Aid | Democracy Now! [10:48] schestowitz_TR both new ^ [10:49] matey chip is russian [10:49] matey hence the question [10:50] *KiKi_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:50] matey not in china, so not asking if they can [10:51] matey maybe the west can if they get it indirectly [10:51] matey somehow i dont think that means canadians can sell cuban cigars [10:51] TR News What is next for Open Source- Alma Linux and beyond | Business Insider India https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/enterprise/what-is-next-for-open-source-alma-linux-and-beyond/articleshow/92482817.cms Source: businessinsider [10:51] TR Bot What is next for Open Source- Alma Linux and beyond | Business Insider India [10:51] matey maybe its complicated (maybe it isnt) [10:53] matey maybe if you try to buy a chinese board with a russian chip where there are sanctions, it gets stopped by customs [10:53] matey this is academic, since im not in the market for a mb [10:54] psydroid3 I wasn't even looking for news on that motherboard, but I stumbled upon it, as usual [10:55] TR News Mozilla Firefox 102 Is Now Available for Download, Adds Geoclue Support on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166528 [10:55] TR Bot Mozilla Firefox 102 Is Now Available for Download, Adds Geoclue Support on Linux | Tux Machines [10:55] matey its a shame you dont run a site called "hardware news" [10:55] matey that would be brilliant [10:55] matey id check out regularly [10:56] schestowitz_TR tomshardware is good [10:56] schestowitz_TR I follow that via rss [10:57] matey toms hw, like phoronix, has loads of information thats perfectly useless to me [10:57] matey im not saying its as bad as phoronix [10:57] schestowitz_TR https://www.tomshardware.com/feeds/all [10:57] matey what i mean is [10:57] schestowitz_TR but they have soma spam , e.g. https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-gaming-chairs [10:57] TR Bot Best Gaming Chairs 2022 | Tom's Hardware [10:57] matey its a hardware site for everyone [10:58] matey not people interested in the most libre / cheapest / most efficient / non-x86 / etc [10:58] matey it would be way more useful to have a hw site that was relevant to what i would go to a hw site for [10:59] matey run by someone who understands those things and doesnt waste my time with... [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [10:59] matey intel and amd, along with best-picks/best-gaming-chairs [10:59] matey i already get plenty of intel and amd without trying [10:59] matey i dont need the up to date on what is essentially hardware bloat ● Jun 27 [11:00] matey bloatware in silicon [11:00] matey though news on the latest malicious (stock) firmware could be useful, if theres something new [11:00] matey like a mention of pluton at least [11:01] matey or azure rtos [11:01] TR News With a budget like this, there's no excuse for running vandalOS from Microsoft https://www.tomshardware.com/news/mars-probe-gets-windows-98-update [11:01] TR Bot Mars Probe Running OS Developed in Windows 98 Receives Software Update in Space | Tom's Hardware [11:01] TR News Excellent Utilities: Extension Manager - Browse, Install and Manage GNOME Shell Extensions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166529 [11:01] TR Bot Excellent Utilities: Extension Manager - Browse, Install and Manage GNOME Shell Extensions | Tux Machines [11:01] TR News Raspberry Pi Zero Prints Giant Pictures with Thermal Receipt Printer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166530 [11:01] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Zero Prints Giant Pictures with Thermal Receipt Printer | Tux Machines [11:01] psydroid3 it has become this self-sustaining machine that can't be made to stop [11:02] psydroid3 things always have to get faster and more expensive with a healthy dose of plutonite thrown in [11:02] matey and more expensive <- [11:02] matey and NEW! [11:02] matey its been a year, go buy another one [11:03] matey maybe eventually theyll do like hp cartridges and those dumb speakers [11:03] matey and simply brick themselves after 500 days [11:03] psydroid3 but that's essentially what the x86 computer has become [11:04] matey "your cpu subscription is nearing the renewal date" [11:04] matey but that's essentially what the x86 computer has become <- yeah [11:04] psydroid3 after a few years it doesn't make economic sense to run a machine anymore due to electricity cost alone [11:05] matey you only do it for compatibility or something [11:05] matey i have some low-powered laptops it still makes sense to run [11:05] matey they dont make them anymore [11:05] matey but these are exceptions to your rule [11:05] psydroid3 what I want is the cheapest machine with the lowest operating cost that can do the job and which I can repurpose later [11:05] matey they dont change the validity of the rule [11:06] psydroid3 this is how I've used my 5W ARM SBC for 5 years now [11:06] matey yeah, a website with that angle on hardware would be cool [11:06] psydroid3 I'll find another purpose for it in the future when I've found a replacement [11:07] psydroid3 such a website doesn't sell hardware, it will be the antithesis of hardware capitalism [11:07] matey yes :) [11:07] matey it would be a hardware website for users, not oems [11:07] psydroid3 and no one wants to wake sleeping giants, so they just continue doing what they're doing, even if it means bugger all [11:08] psydroid3 indeed [11:08] psydroid3 it will be EEE'd the same way free software has been EEE'd [11:09] matey free software is fixable [11:09] matey it will have to rebuild of course [11:09] psydroid3 hardware OEMs would consider the operator of such a site enemy no. 1 [11:09] psydroid3 yes [11:09] matey yeah i mean, youd probably want to run that website as an onion service at least [11:10] matey nice thing about that is, you dont have to bother with dns then [11:12] psydroid3 as for the compatibility thing, that's mainly an issue for closed source software [11:12] psydroid3 so we should call it what it is [11:12] matey true but [11:13] matey not entirely [11:13] matey if you look at the support for non-x86 across the distros [11:13] matey a LOT of them focus on x86, sometimes exclusively [11:13] matey even projects that support several archs dont support them equally [11:14] matey most projects arent built to be 100% cross platform [11:14] matey unless that means like 2 archs [11:14] matey then theres drivers, and driver availability [11:14] matey so even with free software, compatibility is still a real issue [11:14] matey one that cant simply be ignored [11:15] matey it affects me personally, routinely [11:15] matey it will improve of course-- over time [11:15] matey its not a dealbreaker, its something that makes all of this take longer [11:15] matey but thats all the more reason a hardware website would be useful [11:16] matey the only one i can think of with such an angle is all about gnu/linux only [11:16] matey not useful to me [11:16] matey hnode [11:16] matey afaik hnode is mostly about gnu/linux [11:16] matey also like tomshw they consider x86 useful [11:17] matey x86 information isnt something i need [11:17] matey its just noise/spam for my purposes [11:17] matey HOW MANY CORES NOW [11:17] matey wtf cares [11:17] matey really good for running games! [11:18] matey how about "works with your os" [11:18] psydroid3 while you can buy some cheap used machine when you really need it [11:18] matey yeah [11:18] matey thats always x86 sadly [11:18] matey but i dont need a website for that [11:18] psydroid3 they've been trying to put an end to that by locking processors to motherboards or at least OEMs [11:18] matey i just install and it works or it doesnt and i try a little more but ultimately if its not compatible im going to chuck it [11:19] matey usually works so [11:19] matey i need a website to tell me what i DONT know [11:19] matey i know very little about arm [11:19] matey or risc v [11:19] psydroid3 so an AMD EPYC processor that was once in an HPE motherboard might not work in a Dell motherboard [11:19] psydroid3 and vice versa [11:19] matey yeah but if i see amd i just keep walking [11:19] matey i liked when they were the underdog [11:20] matey now theyre just shit [11:20] psydroid3 that's the kind of thing the industry is trying to pull off now [11:20] psydroid3 yeah [11:20] psydroid3 for me it was AMD 2001-2009 (RIP) [11:20] matey yeah its 2022 [11:20] TR News curl 7.84.0 inside every box https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/06/27/curl-7-84-0-inside-every-box/ [11:20] TR Bot 7.84.0 inside every box | daniel.haxx.se [11:21] matey only time i see amd its in some recalled hp piece of shit [11:21] matey and as soon as i see that style of laptop i just laugh and ignore it [11:21] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166531 [11:21] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:21] psydroid3 AMD made it look as if they were the new champion for the past few years [11:21] matey same goes for the amd logo-- if i see it i laugh and ignore it [11:21] psydroid3 and they are to some extent in the x86 world [11:22] matey i know its 99% likely to be a turd [11:22] matey not really interested in the exceptions [11:22] matey and im not saying that as an intel fan, i dont actually like intel at all [11:22] matey which is exactly why i wish there was a website like im describing [11:23] matey i liked amd solely because it was an intel alternative [11:23] psydroid3 but the world is catching up, so it may turn out to have been only a temporary victory [11:23] TR News Buzzwords overload in this ICBM headline https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/caid-services [11:23] TR Bot How Cloud AI Developer Services empower developers | The Enterprisers Project [11:23] matey thats what made it cool [11:23] matey its not that anymore, so its useless [11:23] psydroid3 yeah, me too [11:23] matey amd will never be cool again [11:23] hollander both Intel and AMD are headquarted in and controlled by the sillicon valley cartell california [11:23] matey maybe they can sponsor the fsf since neither serves any real purpose [11:24] hollander the follow along the exact same marketing and political strategies [11:24] hollander y [11:24] matey no ones defending intel here [11:24] matey intel doesnt make good chips anymore [11:24] matey they only make things we would like to get away from [11:25] hollander it's the entire platform which sucks [11:25] matey thats what we are saying [11:26] matey a nice route away from x86 would be lovely [11:26] matey as things are its a little rocky [11:26] matey but expected to get nicer [11:27] matey /me thinks the x in x86 must stand for "we are all a bunch of arseholes that couldnt care less what you want to buy" [11:27] hollander problem is this cartell from sillicon valley, got total control over the entire supply chain, manufacturing and design [11:27] hollander even if, you jumped onto RISC-V, i bet, some Xilinx or Altera tooling (amd,intel) are required [11:28] matey yeah, plus the fsf cant even make a free compiler [11:28] hollander they could and they did, and ruined their own prime free software product [11:28] matey seriously, you AGAIN? [11:28] hollander who? [11:29] matey lol [11:29] schestowitz_TR activelow? [11:29] schestowitz_TR activelol [11:30] schestowitz_TR you can use the same name [11:30] schestowitz_TR nobody will ban you [11:30] schestowitz_TR if you keep changing name it makes it look like the channel has many people with radical poliitical vies [11:30] schestowitz_TR which is what #techpol exists for [11:31] matey no it just looks like one guy thinks we are fooled that easily [11:31] matey when his rhetoric is always identical [11:31] hollander i am female [11:31] matey machine learning not required for a fingerprint [11:31] matey i am female <- you sound exactly like another chatter we have [11:31] matey no worries [11:31] schestowitz_TR hollander: i';m eveyr woman [11:32] matey if youre them we will figure it out quickly as he always says the same things [11:32] matey if youre not-- thats not a problem either [11:32] schestowitz_TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H7_sqdkaAfo [11:32] TR Bot Whitney Houston - I'm Every Woman (Official Video) - Invidious [11:32] matey i am female <- are you german? [11:32] schestowitz_TR hard to believe she's dead so young [11:32] hollander dutch [11:32] schestowitz_TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DVDCNmdi7QI [11:32] matey wait, chaka khan died? [11:33] TR Bot Chaka Khan - I'm Every Woman (Official Music Video) - Invidious [11:33] schestowitz_TR not deutsch? [11:33] matey oh you mean whitney [11:33] schestowitz_TR I once went to a hotel [11:33] schestowitz_TR gave my passport to book [11:33] schestowitz_TR and they wrote dutch [11:33] matey whitney did drugs with her piece of shit husband [11:33] schestowitz_TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MxMH2YaYN0A [11:33] TR Bot Whitney Houston - I'm Every Woman - Invidious [11:33] matey im not judging, i liked whitney [11:33] schestowitz_TR matey: then the daughter killed herself too [11:34] matey well, except she was lousy to dolly [11:34] schestowitz_TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dQ5rJE-KWJg [11:34] matey but other than that [11:34] TR Bot Whitney Houston - I'm Every Woman (Live from The Concert for a New South Africa) - Invidious [11:34] matey matey: then the daughter killed herself too <- didnt know she even had kids [11:34] matey i was only a fan of her music [11:34] TR News Accessibility in Fedora Workstation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166532 [11:34] TR Bot Accessibility in Fedora Workstation | Tux Machines [11:34] matey but the news still reports shit [11:34] matey i remember when "i wanna dance with somebody" first came out [11:35] schestowitz_TR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobbi_Kristina_Brown [11:35] TR Bot Bobbi Kristina Brown - Wikipedia [11:35] matey what a shame [11:35] schestowitz_TR BornMarch 4, 1993 [11:35] schestowitz_TR Livingston, New Jersey, U.S. [11:35] schestowitz_TR DiedJuly 26, 2015 (aged 22) [11:35] schestowitz_TR Duluth, Georgia, U.S. [11:35] matey my guess is that family was utterly fucked because of dad [11:36] matey i dont always blame the dad [11:36] matey but when the dad is bobby brown, then yeah [11:36] schestowitz_TR "On January 31, 2015, Brown was found unconscious in a bathtub in her home, which was similar to the fate of her mother. After being in a coma for nearly six months, Brown died from lobar pneumonia on July 26, 2015, at the age of 22. After her death, her life was the subject of a television movie in 2017 and a documentary in 2021. [11:36] schestowitz_TR " [11:36] matey awdul [11:36] matey awful [11:37] matey two identical suicides is suspicious though [11:37] schestowitz_TR "Brown died in hospice care on July 26, 2015, at age 22. Her death was considered similar to her mother's death, as both had died from effects of being submerged in a bathtub." [11:37] matey browns a psycho, they should at least consider a double murder [11:37] matey im not saying hes a killer-- just that they should think about it [11:37] matey either way hes truly awful [11:38] matey two identical suicides is weird imo, red flag [11:38] matey hopefully they think so too [11:38] matey brb [11:38] *matey has quit (connection closed) [11:40] schestowitz_TR they even look similar [11:41] TR News What is distributed consensus for site reliability engineering? | https://opensource.com/article/22/6/distributed-consensus-site-reliability-engineering Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux [11:41] TR Bot is distributed consensus for site reliability engineering? | Opensource.com [11:41] TR News ICE-V Wireless FPGA board combines Lattice Semi iCE40 UltraPlus with WiFi & BLE module - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/27/ice-v-wireless-fpga-board-lattice-semi-ice40-fpga-wifi-ble-module/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware [11:42] TR Bot ICE-V Wireless FPGA board combines Lattice Semi iCE40 UltraPlus with WiFi & BLE module - CNX Software [11:42] hollander the lattice semi boards got some free/opensource support, which is remarkebl [11:42] hollander initially, some project was hosted, in Austria, although they relocated their website now [11:42] hollander remarkable [11:42] TR News SUSE shills SAP (Proprietary Crap) instead of SLE*, which is only a footnote here. The company is run by salesmen, not FOSS people. https://www.suse.com/c/claas-prepares-for-innovation-and-growth-with-suse/ [11:42] TR Bot prepares for innovation and growth with SUSE | SUSE Communities [11:43] *matey (~matey@k86dad7ibinds.irc) has joined #techrights [11:43] hollander those evil austrians, offering free/opensource digital circuit development tooling [11:43] schestowitz_TR "Yesterday I went up to the Embedded World trade fair in Nuremburg, Germany" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/25/hacker-diary-embedded-world-2022/ | Source: Hackaday [11:43] TR Bot Diary: Embedded World 2022 | Hackaday [11:43] schestowitz_TR [11:43] schestowitz_TR hollander: did you go? [11:43] hollander sadly, the iCE40 boards are slightly limited [11:43] matey /me wonders if chaka khan (who wrote / performed the song originally) will ever get out out scientology (or if she did already) [11:43] hollander schestowitz_TR: go where? [11:43] matey tom and travolta have one foot out the door [11:44] schestowitz_TR Embedded World trade fai [11:44] hollander schestowitz_TR: no [11:44] matey my favourites were lea h remini and chaka khan, and remini already left [11:44] schestowitz_TR I was gonna ask you yesterday when I posted this [11:44] schestowitz_TR but you're a cliusterbomb of nyms [11:44] hollander had visited the IBC amsterdam once, 10 years ago [11:45] hollander although, it's rather boring, for a developer, imo [11:45] schestowitz_TR I did know kahn had entered the cult [11:45] schestowitz_TR how can they recruit all those cleebs? [11:45] hollander only if, for example, some prominence attends and you wanted to talk to them [11:45] schestowitz_TR I'm sure some people studied the phenomoneon [11:45] matey if hollander is alf theyre putting on a far more convincing show than usual [11:45] matey im prepared to believe them for now [11:45] schestowitz_TR or maybew those celebs is how they recruit and keep relevamnt [11:45] matey hes not banned by the way [11:45] matey we just make fun of him [11:45] schestowitz_TR nobody is banned [11:45] hollander Andrew Tanenbaum visited Nuernberg once, although i didn't take the chance to talk to him [11:46] schestowitz_TR except a bot that went crazy a few days ago [11:46] schestowitz_TR ttthat bot is still on the network [11:46] schestowitz_TR but in 2 oher channels [11:46] matey and that was a technical ban [11:46] schestowitz_TR Tanenbaum is a hollander [11:46] schestowitz_TR right next to you ;-) [11:46] hollander no, American [11:46] schestowitz_TR oh [11:46] matey how can they recruit all those cleebs? <- narcissists are too busy manipulating people to think it cant happen to them [11:47] hollander yet, he chose to live in Amsterdam [11:47] matey so the "church" targets narcs, psychos and other people who are vulnerable [11:47] schestowitz_TR dual natgional [11:47] schestowitz_TR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_S._Tanenbaum [11:47] TR Bot Andrew S. Tanenbaum - Wikipedia [11:47] schestowitz_TR but if you met him, you might attack his jewishness or something, so... [11:47] matey not everyone in hollywood is narcissistic buts it a very narcissistic industry [11:48] schestowitz_TR hollywood is Ok withn cults [11:48] schestowitz_TR just don't criticise the chief in hollywood [11:48] schestowitz_TR or wars [11:48] schestowitz_TR like fonda [11:48] schestowitz_TR also, do what they tell in in the casting couch [11:48] schestowitz_TR acting is not that hard [11:49] schestowitz_TR lots of competition [11:49] schestowitz_TR so act like they tel you [11:49] schestowitz_TR fix your act [11:49] schestowitz_TR "action!" [11:49] schestowitz_TR turns out they select for looks [11:49] schestowitz_TR but not for audiences [11:49] schestowitz_TR but for producers [11:50] matey like fonda <- heh [11:50] hollander schestowitz_TR> but if you met him, you might attack his jewishness or something, so [11:50] hollander pardon? [11:51] hollander it's somewhat ironic nonetheless [11:51] matey no need to grill them, if theyre our person theyll act like it soon enough [11:51] hollander it was Intel who cheated Andrew, grabbing minix and put it into IntelME, without telling A. Tanenbaum [11:51] hollander although, i do hate Intel, for other reasons besides such [11:52] matey also this is a totally different subject, which is new [11:52] schestowitz_TR they lost conmtrol of fonda [11:52] schestowitz_TR she was not tighly controlled or capturd by some cult [11:52] matey cool ● Jun 27 [12:10] TR News f2fs: introduce memory mode https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jaegeuk/f2fs.git/commit/?h=dev&id=e7a0035ff8a5bd4fabe710571351cc7de09aeac5 [12:10] TR Bot kernel/git/jaegeuk/f2fs.git - The f2fs filesystem [12:15] TR News Online disinformation stokes tensions as Kenya elections near https://www.reuters.com/article/kenya-tech-election/feature-online-disinformation-stokes-tensions-as-kenya-elections-near-idINL4N2Y22HF [12:15] TR Bot disinformation stokes tensions as Kenya elections near | Reuters [12:15] TR News EU steps up efforts to rein in rising problem of fake news, conference told https://www.eureporter.co/politics/european-commission/2022/06/24/eu-steps-up-efforts-to-rein-in-rising-problem-of-fake-news-conference-told/ [12:15] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.eureporter.co/politics/european-commission/2022/06/24/eu-steps-up-efforts-to-rein-in-rising-problem-of-fake-news-conference-told/ ) [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:32] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166533 [12:32] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:32] TR News Donating to FLOSS projects gemini://rwv.io/2022-06-27-donating-to-floss-projects.gmi [12:34] TR News Relative degrees gemini://idiomdrottning.org/relative-degrees "Consumtion-based CO2e footprint per capita in Sweden: 7.14 metric tons. In India: 1.67 metric tons." [12:53] hollander ^ India cut down rain-forest not accounted for with such metric tons [12:53] hollander population growth in india was/is excessive [12:56] hollander furthermore, the cultural sphere of india, spans across half the globe, from afghanistan to indonesia [12:57] hollander with similar economical habits of excess harm done to ecology wherever they appear [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [12:59] schestowitz_TR india creates a lot less pollution [12:59] hollander whenever the climat politics boil up, it's nothing but propaganda and lies, perpetuated by a bureaucratic apparatus of the self-proclaimed "UN" [12:59] hollander schestowitz_TR: india is shitting millions of tons of plastic into the ocean [12:59] schestowitz_TR what do you know, you are a just a "dutch lady"? ● Jun 27 [13:00] hollander i read newspapers outside the propaganda realm of UN [13:01] hollander and if you followed recent news, it's gonne be madhouse soon... egypt for example [13:01] hollander who, subsidized corn with cheap imports from Ukraine [13:01] hollander glorious UN, to "safe the planet" forests are cut down in Ukraine, to plant crop for egypt and wherever else the exports shipped [13:02] hollander and how generous UN is, to redistribute corn and cash, none of which they planted nor earned themselves [13:04] hollander remembering DJT, who planned for leaving UN, sleepy Joe following along the agenda [13:04] hollander and buddy vladimir shouting over the fence, G7 nations may arrange for corn shipments at friendship discount themselves now [13:07] schestowitz_TR hollander: better post this in #techpol [13:07] schestowitz_TR it's not a tech issue by any stretch of imaagination [13:07] hollander "NATO calls troops of 300000 man on alert" [13:11] TR News "After two virtual conferences, GUADEC is finally getting back to its physical form. And there couldnt be a better place for us to meet again than Mexico! If you havent registered yet, hurry up!" https://feborg.es/see-you-in-guadec2022/ [13:11] TR Bot See you in GUADEC! Felipe Borges [13:12] schestowitz_TR hollander: they obstruct you from being "liberated" by putin? [13:12] hollander schestowitz_TR ? [13:13] hollander it was/is not russians nor putin who posed a threat to global security or my individual one. [13:14] schestowitz_TR anyway, #techpol exists for this [13:14] schestowitz_TR you set it up [13:16] hollander ok; it's just this propaganda was spilled into _this_ channel gemini://idiomdrottning.org/relative-degrees "Consumtion-based CO2e footprint per capita in Sweden metric tons. In India: 1.67 metric tons." [13:17] TR News Digitally signing PDF documents in Linux: with hardware token & Okular Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166534 [13:17] TR Bot Digitally signing PDF documents in Linux: with hardware token & Okular | Tux Machines [13:18] schestowitz_TR all the gemini links go here [13:18] schestowitz_TR as we try to promote higher usage numbers in geminispace [13:18] schestowitz_TR that also speaksd of scientific alements [13:19] schestowitz_TR of the industrial cost [13:19] schestowitz_TR in terms of polluition of carcons [13:19] schestowitz_TR emission of carbons [13:19] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [13:21] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [13:21] TR News ESP32 board with 150Mbps 4G LTE modem also supports RS485, CAN Bus, and relay expansion - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/27/esp32-board-with-150mbps-4g-lte-modem-also-supports-rs485-can-bus-and-relay-expansion/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware [13:21] TR Bot ESP32 board with 150Mbps 4G LTE modem also supports RS485, CAN Bus, and relay expansion - CNX Software [13:30] TR News Links 27/06/2022: New Curl and Okular Digital Signing | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/okular-digital-signing/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/okular-digital-signing/ [13:30] TR Bot Links 27/06/2022: New Curl and Okular Digital Signing | Techrights [13:31] TR News Red Hat Servers, and AlmaLinux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166535 [13:31] TR Bot Red Hat Servers, and AlmaLinux | Tux Machines [13:32] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166536 [13:32] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [13:32] matey /me found a wife for dockor sixel [13:32] *matey has quit (connection closed) [13:33] *matey (~matey@8tzi6shhd2jf2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:33] matey just create a channel called #rightwinghypocritecunts [13:34] SomeH4x0r created, until I leave [13:35] matey she really is exactly like herr doktor [13:35] matey and yet different somehow [13:35] SomeH4x0r I wonder if anyone else joins [13:35] matey hopefully they find love like adolf and eva [13:36] matey and possibly share a taste for cyanide and chocolate [13:36] matey INVITE (matey #rightwinghypocritecunts) <- im old fashioned, weve still got #techrights [13:39] schestowitz_TR we're making a new section today for gemini [13:39] schestowitz_TR just in time [13:39] schestowitz_TR because the number of gemini links is growingf [13:39] schestowitz_TR it's now 10-20% of daily links \0/ [13:40] matey thats good [13:40] matey maybe someday tr will be 100% gemini [13:40] schestowitz_TR it is in a sense [13:40] schestowitz_TR except for multimedia [13:40] matey haha [13:40] schestowitz_TR but I mean Daily Links [13:41] matey no i know [13:41] matey daily links [13:41] schestowitz_TR hosting 1MB files from home can be OK [13:41] schestowitz_TR for one or two requests [13:41] matey yeah it would add up [13:41] schestowitz_TR my upstream speed is copper at 80KBits/sec [13:41] schestowitz_TR about800 [13:41] schestowitz_TR or 100KBytes max [13:42] matey and somehow i dont think there will be a hv for serving gemini [13:42] schestowitz_TR if ti takes up all cpaacity [13:42] schestowitz_TR and no bottlenecks elsewhere [13:42] schestowitz_TR the web became bloated [13:42] schestowitz_TR it' a form of vendor lockin [13:42] matey yes it did [13:42] schestowitz_TR 2MB for a font [13:42] schestowitz_TR good luck shipping such fonts from home to even 20 people [13:42] matey i think webfonts are still optional [13:43] schestowitz_TR for some clients [13:43] schestowitz_TR some insist n getting them [13:43] schestowitz_TR some prerender withouit them [13:43] matey citation needed [13:43] schestowitz_TR while downloading them [13:43] schestowitz_TR and then superimpiosing the new fonts [13:43] schestowitz_TR usually googlefonts [13:43] matey well, i think google can handle the bandwidth [13:43] matey it wont affect the website owner [13:43] schestowitz_TR it's not about bw [13:43] schestowitz_TR it's about spying [13:43] matey mmhmm [13:43] schestowitz_TR some gov sites added these [13:44] schestowitz_TR EU not happy [13:44] schestowitz_TR it says host them locally if you must [13:44] matey good luck shipping such fonts from home to even 20 people <- i was responding to this [13:44] schestowitz_TR EU is useless when it comes to tech [13:44] schestowitz_TR it's too primitive and soft [13:44] matey of course, the coke hamster has other things to attend to [13:44] matey it's too primitive and soft <- its too much in the pocket of the industry [13:44] matey by far [13:45] matey it supports additional spying and censorship [13:45] matey not for the good of the people whatsoever [13:45] matey this is why not everyone who thinks its a farce is on the right [13:45] matey of course for the right its about oh no, what if i see more brown people [13:46] matey though i dont think the answer is to just drop the borders all at once either [13:46] matey i mean theres should be sanity at least [13:46] matey but others want to get rid of immigration [13:46] matey because they imagine the land belongs to a race, not to a country [13:47] matey when it comes to politics, most people appear nuts [13:47] matey not least of all the politicians [13:47] matey the media is no help [13:47] matey the corporations dont make things better [13:48] matey everyones being exploited one way or another [13:58] TR News ANN: nofer - a gemini to gopher bridge gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-27-nofer-ann.gmi ● Jun 27 [14:00] hollander "matey> but others want to get rid of immigration" [14:01] hollander uncontrolled mass migration [14:01] hollander even then, the cheap workforce corporations demand, requires housing [14:01] hollander which is the twist, if rents are jacked up, even housing is missing [14:01] hollander when [14:08] hollander "matey> because they imagine the land belongs to a race, not to a country" [14:08] hollander that's not some arbitrary thinking, respecting national borders is crucial to international law [14:09] hollander elaborating beyond this, comitting ethnocide by replacing entire populations with a culture and language of several thousands of years of history [14:09] hollander that's among the most severe crimes sanctioned by international law [14:10] schestowitz_TR wrong channel, michael [14:10] schestowitz_TR use #techpol [14:10] hollander schestowitz_TR: tell this to matey [14:10] schestowitz_TR this is not an on-topic rant [14:10] *prurigro has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:14] *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:21] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:21] TR News SpellBinding: TCEJORB Wordo: COIFS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-27.gmi [14:21] *prurigro (~prurigro@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights [14:22] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@6v8cjbvydcdre.irc) has joined #techrights [14:22] TR News THE COUNTRY OF THE BLIND added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Country_of_the_Blind.gmi [14:22] TR News THE DOOR IN THE WALL added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Door_in_the_Wall.gmi [14:25] schestowitz_TR done, nowe have have section with subsection for gemini stuff [14:26] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights [14:33] TR News GnuCash 4.11 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166537 [14:33] TR Bot GnuCash 4.11 | Tux Machines [14:40] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166538 [14:40] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:44] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22062475 [14:44] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/uzsgwp5028791.jpg created on 2022-06-24 23:42:47.983211 [14:45] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:45] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:58] TR News Gemini Graduating to First-Class Citizen | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/gemini-daily-links/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/gemini-daily-links/ [14:58] TR Bot Gemini Graduating to First-Class Citizen | Techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 27 [15:02] TR News Survey: EPO staff dont trust top management, concerns about quality http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/27/survey-epo-staff-dont-trust-top-management-concerns-about-quality/ [15:03] TR Bot Survey: EPO staff dont trust top management, concerns about quality - Kluwer Patent Blog [15:08] hollander one noteworthy victim of the C11/c++ attack against the toolchain/gcc: recent net-dns/bind fails compilation with gcc-4.7/c99 [15:09] hollander in parallel older versions of net-dns/bind cannot compile/link against a recent libressl/openssl anymore [15:10] hollander bind is an internet standards consortium license piece of software, i might add [15:11] hollander and with both, c11 and ssl version requirements, older versions are forced to phase-out [15:13] hollander net-dns/bind had low priority here, I only kept it for the reason standard components should remain [15:14] hollander reminds me, of bearssl-libtls, although some crucial software doesn't support it yet, to remove openssl/libressl entirely [15:15] hollander at least, gnutls is gone already, not needed anymore, given my experiences with GNU/FSF components [15:16] hollander given what GNU/FSF did to GCC, thank you very much for this, for the sake of it, glib too was removed [15:23] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/see-something-new-everyday-mildly-interesting-reddit-4.jpg [15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:32] TR News "the priority is pretty darn stark right now and its called Earth." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/communism-against-earth [15:34] matey mjg59 Ok for people who believe that getting packages from distros is meaningfully more secure than getting them from language-specific repos - what threats do you believe are actually mitigated there? [15:34] matey first and foremost, language repos are more lax about licenses and sometimes include things an fsf-approved distro wouldnt [15:35] matey but you asked about security, and im guessing the fsf advice on such repos translated into people feeling non-free/insecure which i sympathis with, even if its clearly a fallacy [15:35] matey sympathise != fully agree [15:35] matey so i think thats one reason people feel that way [15:35] matey but theres another factor, maybe [15:36] matey language repos tend to just be fucking ginormous and inclusive of everything thrown at them [15:36] matey im sure theres SOME qc, but i think the notion is theres less. [15:36] matey one fine example, is that supply chain shit we just had on npm. [15:36] matey which is probably what led to your question [15:37] matey so in theory, theres nothing inherently more secure. in practice, it happens [15:37] matey and im not even sure of that [15:37] hollander another victim of the recent openssl/libressl version bump: an old ircd-hybrid version (7.3), which i kept as an emergency option for some stable and secure ircd [15:37] matey either there are misconceptions at work here-- or the "misconceptions" (read: assumptions) are actually correct in practice [15:37] matey in theory theres no difference. but you know what they say-- [15:37] matey the difference between theory and practice is that in theory, theres no difference [15:38] hollander ircd-hybrid v7.3 doesn't compile/link against recent openssl/libressl... it did for almost a decade [15:38] matey so lets move from theory to practice: in the past 20 years, have language repos NOT been shown to contain more malware / crap than distro repos? [15:38] matey i realise that malware / crap can find its way into a distribution [15:38] matey and it does [15:39] matey has that not happened less? [15:39] matey is it not as simple as the difference between running through a field with 10 people firing in the same general direction, and running through a field with 100 people doing that? [15:40] matey i believe the language repos are LESS discriminate. that sole factor would make me more wary of them [15:40] matey but if im wrong, i would be interested in learning more [15:40] matey fascinated, in fact [15:40] matey sometimes assumptions are wrong [15:41] hollander typically, if some precious piece of software fails with an upgraded dependency, i block the dependency upgrade [15:42] hollander however, with openssl/libressl the tendency is it must be upgraded to remain interoperable with other services [15:42] matey debian (i think youve done packaging for them, maybe im thinking of someone else) even used to have more-trusted / less trusted categories, or am i thinking of ubuntu? [15:43] hollander in case of ircd-hybrid v7.3, this would mean at some time in the near future the supported old openssl/libressl might cause issues with new clients and their updated ssl libs [15:43] hollander so, either, i upgrade libressl/openssl and loose some precious piece of software, or i could keep the ircd in question and loose interoperability with clients [15:43] hollander it's just an exemplary case [15:44] matey like there were trusted packagers and other packages would be unvetted or something, and aptitude would show a warning worthy of b-9 from lost in space waving his arms around at will robinson [15:44] matey maybe thats why people think language repos are less secure [15:44] TR News [Meme] The World Wide Web Has Become Bloated and Slow | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/bloated-www/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/bloated-www/ [15:45] TR Bot [Meme] The World Wide Web Has Become Bloated and Slow | Techrights [15:45] matey i realise that malware / crap can find its way into a distribution <- from red hat, for example [15:46] matey and once theyve decided to include it at everyone elses expense, good luck getting it out of there again [15:49] hollander as far as security was concerned with such updates, recently i re-considered a downgrade to an ancient sshv1 implementation [15:49] hollander didn't study in detail yet, why sshv1 was phased out, only noticed the dropbear implementation limits RSA key size which some ancient sshv1 server didn't [15:50] TR News "Happy Friday, everyone --let's review the Apache community's activities from over the past week..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up262 [15:50] TR Bot The Apache News Round-up: week ending 24 June 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog [15:51] hollander furthermore, i wiped wireguard and ipsec, and only rely on ssh for tunneling, such as NFS [15:51] hollander which was, somewhat slow with the typical ciphers, so i tested my non-primitive recurse scrambler design, which boosted data-rate with tunneled NFS 10x in comparison to twofish [15:52] hollander meaning, with sshv1 (and strong RSA), together with an optional fast scrambler implementation, i got all that's needed for VPN, with minimal dependencies [15:52] TR News Our partners in Russia human rights and freedom of expression organizations do believe its going to get worse and worse, Natalia Krapiva, Tech-Legal Counsel at Access Now, told DW in regards to the growing censorship and website blocking in Russia. https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [15:53] TR Bot Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now [15:53] TR News Indian CERTs Directions will weaken cybersecurity and privacy: experts call for deferral and public consultation - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/india-cert-in-directions-experts/ Source: accessnow [15:53] TR Bot Indian CERTs Directions will weaken cybersecurity and privacy: experts call for deferral and public consultation - Access Now [15:53] matey Oh FFS it's because it's the 25th anniversary of the first book being released? Come on, read the room. [15:53] matey not only that [15:54] matey thats the most shamelessly commercial move ive ever seen from wikipedia since i found it in the first place [15:54] matey like how is a "25th anniversary" of a novel relevant to an encyclopedia? no, really [15:54] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166539 [15:54] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [15:55] TR News Red Hat Hires a Blind Software Engineer to Improve Accessibility on Linux Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166540 [15:55] TR Bot Red Hat Hires a Blind Software Engineer to Improve Accessibility on Linux Desktop | Tux Machines [15:55] matey whats next, feature microsoft on the front page whenever windows changes their number (if they do again, which they probably will) [15:56] matey and if its about the book... why not feature the article on hp itself? [15:56] matey it makes no sense [15:56] TR News How To Choose The Correct Free Software for You https://medevel.com/how-to-choose-the-correct-open-source-software-for-you/ [15:56] TR Bot How To Choose The Correct Open-source Software for You [15:56] matey "whats this got to do with tech" nothing, wikipedia isnt an online encyclopedia [15:56] matey it isnt practically one of the 4 corners of the web at this point [15:57] matey and its only relevant when youtube does weird shit because google [15:57] TR News Self-host a Ghost Blog With Traefik https://linuxhandbook.com/self-host-ghost-traefik/ Source: LinuxHandbook | GNU | Linux [15:57] TR Bot Self-host a Ghost Blog With Traefik [15:59] TR News Tips For Stateful Kubernetes Data Backup And Recovery - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/tips-for-stateful-kubernetes-data-backup-and-recovery/ Source: containerjournal [15:59] TR Bot Tips For Stateful Kubernetes Data Backup And Recovery - Container Journal ● Jun 27 [16:02] TR News In Slashdot today: How a Turkish Municipal District Switched to GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166316#comment-34150 [16:02] TR Bot How the Eypsultan district of Turkey uses GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [16:03] hollander not sure yet, seems to me some software is aggressively phased out (related to ssl) [16:03] TR News Ankush Das: "Microsoft says that they love Linux and open-source, but we still do not have native support for a lot of its products on Linux." 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[16:04] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166541 [16:04] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:04] hollander ircd-hybrid-7 wasn't important, i could keep this one for more than a decade, no issues with openssl/libressl upgrades and transitions... up until recently [16:04] hollander and too net-dns/bind was hit by this [16:05] TR News Oversized hog because of Intel https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/zotac-pro-elkhart-lake-powered-fanless-mini-pcs-27-06-2022/ [16:05] TR Bot ZOTAC Pro Elkhart Lake powered fanless mini PCs - Geeky Gadgets [16:05] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:06] TR News Gemini links have become abundant enough that they justify having their own section in Daily Links instead of scattered around and blended with World Wide Web links http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/gemini-daily-links/ [16:06] TR Bot Gemini Graduating to First-Class Citizen | Techrights [16:06] TR News The Web at 30+ is not what it was back in the 1990s; many people nowadays use tabs because pages take far too long to load (in spite of tremendous bandwidth gains; part of the problem is RAM hoard and CPU hogs) http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/bloated-www/ [16:06] TR Bot [Meme] The World Wide Web Has Become Bloated and Slow | Techrights [16:06] hollander besides, alot of nonsense is spread, such as rc4/ssl was supposedly insecure, which it isn't because in block-mode of operation the cryptograhic strength depends on the key-schedule/hash mainly [16:07] hollander i suspect, instead, simple and secure implementations were phased out [16:07] TR News "If you want a game that might teach you something, try the Bash crawl adventure. Or, go write and play some BASIC games in your browser." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/26/want-a-break-from-hardware-hacking-try-bitburner/ [16:07] TR Bot A Break From Hardware Hacking? Try Bitburner | Hackaday [16:08] TR News The Register now abuses the Linux brand to describe something of Microsoft, which is attacking Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/27/can_sonic_be_the_linux/ [16:08] TR Bot Can SONiC be the Linux of Networking? The Register [16:09] hollander during cold-war era, crypto was sanctioned for export, until year 2001 situation slightly relaxed (which is why gpg-1.4, sshv1, and various other software existed) [16:09] TR News The "Linux" Foundation misuses or sells the Linux brand, diluting the name and the project's identity https://www.securities.io/cardano-roundup-lace-wallet-announcement-hoskinson-proposes-self-regulation-and-linux-foundation-membership/ [16:09] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.securities.io/cardano-roundup-lace-wallet-announcement-hoskinson-proposes-self-regulation-and-linux-foundation-membership/ ) [16:10] hollander gpg1 and sshv1 aren't easily phased out entirely, although rarely used anywhere anymore [16:10] hollander for example, with specific versions of those, 8K RSA is available [16:11] hollander which was researched in detail, for decades [16:12] hollander stumbled upon a crypto scheme named rabin, no time yet to review this [16:12] hollander anyway, SSL is approaching a state i consider almost useless for what i do [16:12] hollander such as, with the web-browsers which remain acceptable, i couldn't use online-banking or any typical online-shopping anyway [16:13] hollander and otherwise, there isn't any software/service at all remaining which i would need to rely on SSL for anymore [16:14] TR News Samsung, Red Hat to Work on Linux Drivers for Future Tech Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166542 [16:14] TR Bot Samsung, Red Hat to Work on Linux Drivers for Future Tech | Tux Machines [16:15] hollander so, as far as OpenSSL etc are concerned, the "security" implication i see is to avoid any remote-code-execution vulnerability [16:15] hollander because, i do not need nor want OpenSSL, it is typical services on the internet (wikipedia or whatetever etc) who enable this [16:16] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@u6e4grxkxibun.irc) has joined #techrights [16:18] hollander besides, with sixels and terminal-console only, any workflow is fully interoperable with ssh [16:18] hollander that's why, dvtm terminal multiplexer and sixels are neat [16:24] *SomeH4xx (~someh4xx@pfkjyweak68i6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:26] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:26] *SomeH4xx is now known as SomeH4x0r [16:34] hollander just imagine if, i had not any hostile intentions, then all this NATO/G7/5eye security is a kneejerk such as this: [16:35] hollander a developer of theirs rejects the security and quality offered, not some hostile entity which was supposed to be spied upon [16:35] hollander a skilled developer wouldn't accept any of the typical web-browsers anymore, to do whatever is necessary: search for jobs, online banking etc. [16:35] TR News Dilution and Misuse of the "Linux" Brand Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166543 [16:35] TR Bot Dilution and Misuse of the "Linux" Brand | Tux Machines [16:39] hollander ssl implementation probably doesn't pass acceptance-criteria for long-term reliable operation [16:39] hollander and i didn't see the entire infrastructure behind yet (CAs), nor am i willing to [16:40] hollander maybe, this is a disadvantage, of gemini protocol: relying on SSL for transport security [16:40] hollander given the instabilities of the SSL protocol and it's implementations, this contradicts the philosophy of gemini slightly [16:42] *hollander disappears inside his gopher hole [16:42] *hollander has quit (Quit: connection closed.) [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 27 [17:05] TR News Todays COVID-19 Numbers in England: Deaths Up, Hospitalisations Up Sharly, New Cases at Over 100,000 Per Week https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/27/covid-19-surge-almost-july/ [17:05] TR Bot Blog Archive Todays COVID-19 Numbers in England: Deaths Up, Hospitalisations Up Sharly, New Cases at Over 100,000 Per Week [17:13] TR News [Meme] Its Harder to Talk About Crimes When... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/centralised-media/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/centralised-media/ [17:13] TR Bot [Meme] Its Harder to Talk About Crimes When | Techrights [17:13] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/see-something-new-everyday-mildly-interesting-reddit-21.jpg [17:18] matey https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/zxcvbn/reddit.com-r-mildly-interesting/ [17:18] TR Bot - Dive into anything [17:33] TR News The Importance of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press When It Comes to EPO Corruption | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/freedom-to-explain-epo-corruption/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/freedom-to-explain-epo-corruption/ [17:33] TR Bot The Importance of Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press When It Comes to EPO Corruption | Techrights [17:34] *CrystalMath (~coderain@g37skicrzaffu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:36] TR News "It has now been ten days since I first showed symptoms of COVID-19, and I've been cleared by a doctor to end my quarantine." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220627-2022-week-24-25-thoughts-and-photos.gmi [17:40] *bnchs (~bnchs@y297yfigdy8zk.irc) has joined #techrights [17:43] TR News They call it "dark Web" while at the same time telling us "blacklist" is offensive and sounds racist. [17:43] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/weekend-random-randomness-5-22-22-33.jpg [17:44] *mole (~mole@acq5qqvgi8e2a.irc) has joined #techrights [17:44] TR News Corporate media and billionaires: only us can used terms with racist and negative connotation. Also: we buy all the major media/sites, so the Web won't talk about this double standard... [17:44] schestowitz_TR we have a mole here ;-) [17:45] TR News The 7 Best Drawing and Vector Editing Apps for Chromebooks https://www.makeuseof.com/best-vector-drawing-apps-for-chromebooks/ use GIMP on it ;-) [17:45] TR Bot The 7 Best Drawing and Vector Editing Apps for Chromebooks [17:47] TR News England COVID-19... In a simple chart (its not getting under control despite it being summertime) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/27/covid-19-surge-almost-july/ [17:48] TR News Centralised media or centralised Internet remains a peril when it comes to freedom of expression; people in privileged positions typically decide who can and who cannot express an opinion (based on personal preferences, agenda, financial motives) http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/centralised-media/ [17:48] TR News Corruption such as bribery of the media (and academia) has long gone on at the EPO; its no wonder that bribes, in addition to threats, have muzzled almost every publisher that covers EPO corruption, but there are exceptions http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/freedom-to-explain-epo-corruption/ ● Jun 27 [18:01] TR News Firefox 102 Adds GeoClue Support on Linux, Improves PDF Viewer - OMG! Ubuntu! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166528#comment-34151 [18:01] TR Bot Mozilla Firefox 102 Is Now Available for Download, Adds Geoclue Support on Linux | Tux Machines [18:03] TR News FOSSlife Team hyping up frauds and charlatans, Gartner https://www.fosslife.org/gartner-cybersecurity-predictions-next-5-years see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group [18:03] TR Bot Gartner Cybersecurity Predictions for the Next 5 Years [18:03] TR Bot Gartner Group - Techrights [18:04] TR News Just boycott Reddit altogether. It's a very malicious site that posthumously lies about Aaron Swartz for self-promotional purposes. https://www.maketecheasier.com/access-deleted-comments-reddit/ [18:04] TR Bot 4 Ways to View Deleted Reddit Posts and Comments - Make Tech Easier [18:04] TR News digiKam 7.7.0 is released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166544 [18:04] TR Bot digiKam 7.7.0 is released | Tux Machines [18:05] matey we have a mole here <- thats a refreshing change [18:05] matey usually its just someone from major publication come to troll [18:05] TR News 5 out of 8 of these are Apple! https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/27/cisa-adds-eight-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog [18:05] TR Bot CISA Adds Eight Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA [18:06] matey but a mole is exciting [18:06] matey even glamourous [18:06] matey like a beauty mark! [18:07] schestowitz_TR a mole stays undercover [18:07] schestowitz_TR no sign in view [18:07] matey like i said, pretty exciting [18:08] matey and a sure sign of big things being accomplished [18:08] TR News "Here's an update on recent KDE application development on KDE.news..." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151905#comment-34152 [18:08] TR Bot Nate Graham: KDE 2021 roadmap mid-year update | Tux Machines [18:08] matey too bad they arent pestering you... then you could say they are a "badger of honour" [18:09] matey and on top of it being a badge of honour [18:09] matey none of us have any way of knowing theyre here [18:10] matey except perhaps mincer, and ariadne [18:10] matey perhaps techrights-sec [18:10] matey and rianne, who i may have imagined commented once but thats obviously not what shes here to do [18:11] matey the identity of techrights-sec remains a mystery [18:11] matey they seem older than you and i once thought they were your boss, but i dont think that now [18:11] matey before that i thought they might be shane [18:12] matey its not important, but you know how it is with mysteries [18:12] mole inside the gopher hole, i was giving gemini protocol another thought [18:12] schestowitz_TR ggood point about shane [18:12] schestowitz_TR I wonder where he is and what he does [18:12] matey some people lose interest in the scene [18:13] matey i imagine he just kept getting more occupied with other things until he was no longer part of it at all [18:13] schestowitz_TR oh, so mole is michael :-) [18:13] mole by design gemini protocol is intruiging, however, SSL sucks [18:13] matey /me doesnt know who michael is either [18:13] schestowitz_TR activelow [18:13] schestowitz_TR nothign agaionst him [18:13] schestowitz_TR I just stroingly disagree with his political views [18:13] matey ssl sucks <- this is too technical and scientific for me, it goes right over my head [18:14] matey I just stroingly disagree with his political views <- oh is he a republican or something? [18:14] mole facts aren't an opinion [18:14] mole it's not a subjective political view, to state facts [18:14] schestowitz_TR anyway, geopher is very simple [18:14] schestowitz_TR too simpler [18:14] schestowitz_TR *simple [18:14] schestowitz_TR for something like articles [18:14] mole granted [18:15] mole it's not about gopher or gemini itself, it is SSL which is awful [18:15] matey as someone who ran a gopher server, i dont miss using tabs as syntax [18:15] matey regardless of the fact that i could generate gopher selectors from anything [18:15] matey it is SSL which is awful <- again, this is way too technical for me [18:15] matey "awful" "sucks" [18:15] matey i wish someone could put it in more generic terms [18:16] mole it is both, the standardization of it, SSL, the regular changes of it's specification, and then the implementation of it [18:16] mole the amount of standard revisions alone: sslv1,v2,v3, then tlsv1,v1.1,1,2,1.3 etc.... how many are there? [18:16] matey yeah [18:16] matey when it breaks they should just leave it [18:17] matey dont do revisions, they only confuse people [18:17] matey thats the way to make security work [18:17] mole the block mode operation are mostly complicated rubbish, the ciphers, i mean, it's a total distraction anyway [18:17] mole CIA brainwashing [18:17] matey well, to be fair, einstein wasnt a cryptologist [18:17] matey he was BARELY a physicist! [18:17] mole with block mode operation, the cipher strength mostly depends on the hashing of the block keys anyway [18:17] matey so expecting the world of ssl is misguided [18:17] matey its good enough for what it tries to do [18:18] matey if they were serious they would use quantum cryptozoology [18:18] matey bigfoot cipher, etc [18:18] mole so, why are there that many different ciphers? and almost all of those ciphers are very slow and are not based on cryptographically well established designs (LFSR and related) [18:18] matey ufo technology [18:18] matey well they have LFSR2 now [18:18] matey only germans use it [18:18] mole and, the block-operation mode, can be implemented correctly, and simple and easy, once done correctly, no need for an "improvement" in decades [18:19] matey its based on microchips they reverse engineered at roswell and of course, enigma [18:19] mole i mean, even ECB mode can be secure, if used and implemented correctly [18:19] matey with is superior dutch technology [18:19] mole SSL is utter crap [18:19] matey i have a shirt that says that actually [18:19] matey and just to show how useless ssl is [18:19] matey its encrypted with ssl but everyone can read it anyway [18:20] mole a cryptosystem such as ssl is _not_ useless, it is crap nonetheless [18:20] matey just at a glance even, i mean wtf [18:20] TR News Review or gift? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zJotySEbj3o [18:20] TR Bot HP Dev One Full Review (Part 2) - Upgrading RAM, Running Other Distros & More! - Invidious [18:20] MinceR 27 191744 < mole> with block mode operation, the cipher strength mostly depends on the hashing of the block keys anyway [18:20] MinceR then use a stream cipher [18:20] matey the key to online security is to rotate your irc handle every 30 minutes [18:21] mole i'm really annoyed by the fact, good old ircd-hybrid v7 doesn't compile and link against latest libressl/openssl anymore [18:21] mole not important [18:22] Ariadne CAPAB \r\n [18:22] TR News 'Linux' Foundation now crowning full time from Microsoft employees who are not technical and have worked to infiltrate what Microsoft is attacking http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166292#comment-34153 [18:22] TR Bot Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project | Tux Machines [18:22] mole it just shows again, what type of useless crap made by NATO/USA/5eyes is deployed globally [18:23] matey and after appropriating so much tech and scientists from dutch land too [18:23] TR News #HowTo Get the MAC Address of a Network Interface Card Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166545 [18:23] TR Bot How to Get the MAC Address of a Network Interface Card | Tux Machines [18:23] TR News Converseen Image Converter is Available on Flathub Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166546 [18:23] TR Bot Converseen Image Converter is Available on Flathub | Tux Machines [18:23] MinceR 27 192039 < matey> the key to online security is to rotate your irc handle every 30 minutes [18:23] matey project paperclip, project binderclip, project rubberband, project bouncing like a red rubber ball [18:24] MinceR unfortunately we already know that means you'll be called [18:24] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [18:24] MinceR project red swingline stapler [18:24] matey dont be ridiculous, i would never stoop to that level of childish stunt [18:24] MinceR :) [18:24] *matey is now known as [18:25] the thought of it even [18:25] MinceR :) [18:25] MinceR allowing unicode in nicks is still a stupid idea [18:25] i agree [18:25] /me blames python [18:26] TR News Firefox 102 Available to Download! New ESR, Geoclue Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166528#comment-34154 [18:26] TR Bot Mozilla Firefox 102 Is Now Available for Download, Adds Geoclue Support on Linux | Tux Machines [18:27] one of the worse things about unicode in irc is the propensity for complete fuckery [18:27] though it doesnt always work :) [18:29] TR News ShiftLeft finds a 97% reduction in open source software vulnerabilities | SC Media https://www.scmagazine.com/editorial/news/application-security/shiftleft-finds-a-97-reduction-in-open-source-software-vulnerabilities Source: scmagazine [18:29] TR Bot ShiftLeft finds a 97% reduction in open source software vulnerabilities | SC Media [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:30] TR News Paradox as "clown computing" means outsourcing, so you've lost control of the systems; it's a data breach https://linuxbuz.com/cloud-security/what-is-cloud-security [18:30] TR Bot is Cloud Security - Definition, Importance, Benefits - LinuxBuz [18:31] well its not all bad [18:31] ive tried replacing the M and the e, separately and together, in MinceR [18:31] and none of it worked [18:31] either because the server is smarter than that [18:31] or because the owner of that nick considered a LARGE number of permutations [18:32] SomeH4x0r fuck ergo ircd [18:32] SomeH4x0r slowly destroying IRC [18:32] no no no [18:32] its ergo fuck ircd [18:32] SomeH4x0r Unicode does not belong to nicknames [18:32] Unicode does not belong to nicknames <- we have 3 people saying this now, including myself [18:32] TR News "discuss the nature of the East-West dichotomy and whether the rise of Eurasia" https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/06/podcasts/bonus-interrogating-cold-war-2-0/ [18:32] TR Bot BONUS - Interrogating Cold War 2.0 [18:32] i dont think they will listen [18:33] TR News Rakudo Weekly News: 2022.26 Conference Seasoned https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/06/27/2022-26-conference-seasoned/ [18:33] TR Bot 2022.26 Conference Seasoned Rakudo Weekly News [18:33] SomeH4x0r I will try to get one of my XMPP friends set up an ircd sometime later [18:33] TR News Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 5 https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-5-rc-5 Source: godotengine [18:33] TR Bot Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 5 [18:33] hopefully xmpp doesnt allow unicode in handles [18:34] the protocol should be ascii only [18:34] TR News About that misguided call for a 7-Zip boycott Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166547 [18:34] TR Bot About that misguided call for a 7-Zip boycott | Tux Machines [18:34] SomeH4x0r XMPP does [18:34] /me would vote for baudot even [18:34] SomeH4x0r and iirc it makes plausible impersonation possibleOD [18:34] SomeH4x0r *possible [18:34] it does but i just tested that [18:35] and cyrillic doesnt allow me to become mincer [18:35] even thought theres an M that isnt M and an e that isnt e [18:35] i dont mean schwa either [18:37] nd this is just wrong [18:37] * is now known as [18:37] why is this even a character? [18:37] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166548 [18:37] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_monocular_O [18:37] TR Bot Double monocular O - Wikipedia [18:38] * is now known as matey [18:38] TR News Privileged Conversations | July 2022 - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/privileged-conversations-july-2022/ Source: publicknowledge [18:38] TR Bot Privileged Conversations | July 2022 - Public Knowledge [18:39] schestowitz_TR matey: you have some more offensive ones [18:39] schestowitz_TR like douche, swastika.. [18:39] matey /me didnt know there was a douche glyph [18:39] matey what does that even look l-- dont tell me [18:40] matey also swastikas are highly INoffensive in several contexts [18:41] matey www.jta.org/2022/06/02/united-states/a-california-hate-crimes-bill-separates-nazi-symbols-from-hindu-swastikas [18:41] matey This legislation is not intended to criminalize the placement or display of the ancient swastika symbols that are associated with Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism and are symbols of peace." [18:41] matey its still unconstitutional [18:42] matey but even germany legalises the use for folun gong (its part of their flag and has no racist connotations) [18:42] *schestowitz_TR is now known as Schestowitz-3 [18:42] matey Can the swastika ever reclaim its original meaning? - Quartz [18:42] matey qz.com/1757244/can-the-swastika-ever-reclaim-its-original-meaning/ [18:42] matey A mirrored swastika () is called manji in Japan, where it is a sign of prosperity and good luck. The manji is used to indicate the location of Buddhist temples in local maps and signs. [18:43] matey How the world loved the swastika - until Hitler stole it - BBC News [18:43] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166549 [18:43] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:43] matey its unquestionably hateful when nazis use it [18:43] matey but thats theyre fucking nazis [18:43] matey because [18:44] matey pretty much everybody else might as well be doing spocks "live long and prosper" [18:44] matey which is jewish in origin [18:46] matey There are literally swastikas on the floor of an ancient Jewish temple in Jerusalem, in Navajo blankets, on the jerseys of the Swastika, Canada hockey team from the 1920s, and almost everywhere else on earth. [18:46] matey There are literally swastikas on the floor of an ancient Jewish temple in Jerusalem, <- ive seen a picture, i was looking for it just now [18:46] matey of course theyre aligned at right angles [18:47] matey left-vs-right orientation is a red herring imo, non-nazi ones go both ways [18:47] matey but the non-nazi ones are almost always aligned up/down/left/right [18:47] matey and the official nazi one is at a 45 [18:47] Schestowitz-3 matey> There are literally swastikas on the floor of an ancient Jewish temple [18:48] Schestowitz-3 if you want to see many swastika there [18:48] matey of course as weve seen, its truly anything goes with the spray painted ones [18:48] MinceR 27 194745 < matey> and the official nazi one is at a 45 [18:48] Schestowitz-3 go to the museum [18:48] MinceR not always [18:48] matey not always <- maybe but i struggle to [18:48] matey go to the museum <- youre missing the point by an entire planet [18:48] Schestowitz-3 it was sarcasm [18:49] matey theyre not going to dig up an ancient jewish temple to appease some reddit/tumblrinas [18:49] MinceR this one is not 45, for example >> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9b5qfmnNZWzsY1m_36AgFfuslpZBkDDd3bg&usqp=CAU [18:49] matey it was sarcasm <- oh, fair enough [18:50] matey this one is not 45, for example >> <- fair point [18:50] matey but the right-vs-left thing people came up with is simply inaccurate [18:51] matey it really comes down to why someones using it [18:51] matey just like yelling fire in a crowded theatre is totally acceptable [18:52] matey IF youre warning them of an actual fire [18:52] TR News Easy 4.2.1 interim-release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166470#comment-34155 [18:52] TR Bot EasyOS Dunfell-series 4.2 | Tux Machines [18:53] matey and i could be going out on a limb here [18:53] TR News "In the thirty-fourth episode of the WordPress Briefing, hear WordPress Executive Director Josepha Haden Chomphosy discuss planning for the major release and how you can get involved in the WordPress 6.1 release cycle!" https://wordpress.org/news/2022/06/episode-34-wordpress-6-1-is-coming/ [18:53] TR Bot Episode 34: WordPress 6.1 is Coming! WordPress News [18:53] matey but i feel pretty confident (barring examples to the contrary) that hindus will NOT be using any 45-degree white swastikas on black circles on red backgrounds [18:54] matey but never say never [18:54] Schestowitz-3 shithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-OSPRay-Studio-0.11 [18:54] TR Bot Releases OSPRay Studio v0.11 Visualization / Ray-Tracing App - Phoronix [18:54] MinceR well, it will take a bit of time for narendra modi and his cult to become more comfortable with nazism for that [18:54] matey yeah right [18:54] MinceR or just some more global spread of fascism [18:55] TR News ArcoLinux 22.07.03 is out -- a Belgian Arch https://arcolinux.info/ https://arcolinux.com/ [18:55] TR Bot ArcoLinux | ArcoLinux [18:55] TR Bot ArcoLinux [18:55] matey i mean ive seen a buddha with a swastika on his forehead, but never as an armband [18:56] matey upper arm bracelets are popular though, i think krishna had one, or his brother [18:56] TR News GNU is bigger and Rust is not about security https://www.memorysafety.org/blog/memory-safety-in-linux-kernel/ [18:56] TR Bot Memory Safety for the Worlds Largest Software Project - Prossimo [18:56] matey but those are worn on the skin, not a sleeve [18:57] matey people who see the global spread of fascism should of course realise that as that happens, a counter force is also growing to oppose it [18:57] TR News Microsoft: Miguel de Icaza will interject Mono into Linux. Gulag: Miguel Ojeda will help put Linux in Microsoft proprietary software (GitHub) with oppressive CoC that makes it a violation to condemn Microsoft crimes [18:58] matey and i dont mean codes of censorship (Which are a shallow and meaningless waste of time used mostly as a cudgel against non-conformist thinking) [18:59] TR News Gulag proxy/lobby bought domain, memorysafety... reminds me of how Microsoft does lobbying [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 27 [19:00] matey its been an interesting century [19:00] matey its only going to get more interesting [19:02] TR News "Kiwi TCMS is happy to announce that we have been awarded a "Best Website 2022" award by Reviewbox.es, scoring 36/40 on their evaluation. The review criteria can be found at https://www.reviewbox.es/los-mejores-sitios-web/." https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/06/27/mejor-sitio-web-2022/ [19:02] TR Bot Los mejores sitios web 2022 - REVIEWBOX Espaa [19:02] TR Bot Kiwi TCMS - Mejor Sitio Web 2022 [19:02] Schestowitz-3 we're not even a quarter way in [19:02] Schestowitz-3 3 economic crashes [19:02] Schestowitz-3 on a global scale [19:02] Schestowitz-3 and many wars [19:03] matey the economy is bullshit [19:03] matey and its only going to become more obviously so [19:04] matey and many wars <- war is inevitable when this much oppression exists [19:04] TR News Has Red Hat's largest client (DoD) demanded some back doors in there? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/experience-bringing-openssl-30-rhel-and-fedora [19:04] TR Bot The experience of bringing OpenSSL 3.0 into Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Fedora [19:04] matey of course a lot of oppression comes FROM those wars [19:04] Schestowitz-3 it's a feedeing loop [19:04] matey as does a lot of the economic bullshit [19:04] Schestowitz-3 war makes poverty and miserty [19:05] Schestowitz-3 and poor, miserable people go to war [19:05] matey true [19:05] matey but not only [19:05] matey war generally exists for the rich, to exploit the poor [19:05] matey even the "noble" ones like wwii [19:05] matey the "necessary ones" like wwii [19:05] matey war is always sold under the banner of necessity [19:06] matey which doesnt mean its never necessary [19:06] matey but wars rarely happen for the same reasons theyre sold as being about [19:06] TR News "As some of you may know, on May 4th Jack Huey opened a PR to stabilize an initial version of generic associated types. The current version is at best an MVP: the compiler support is limited, resulting in unnecessary errors, and the syntax is limited, making code that uses GATs much more verbose than Id like." http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2022/06/27/many-modes-a-gats-pattern/ [19:06] TR Bot Baby Steps [19:06] matey even the american revolution-- which was a lot better than doing nothing [19:06] matey wasnt entirely on the level [19:07] matey it was to benefit the rich as well [19:07] matey not as a an afterthough [19:07] matey by design [19:07] matey they sold it as being about freedom, and thats the real reason people fought [19:07] matey and imo they got some freedom out of it [19:07] matey the native americans and the african slaves... not so much freedom [19:08] matey regardless [19:08] matey eventually the people of the world will have to stand up to this shit [19:08] matey and that will absolutely be a necessary war [19:09] matey not just for freedom, but the survival of the species [19:09] matey about as necessary as it gets [19:10] matey a war agaainst the genocide of all races [19:10] TR News Mozilla Politics Inc. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/recording-academys-vp-of-d-e-i-ryan-butler-tells-us-what-brings-him-joy-online/ see http://techrights.org/2022/06/13/mozilla-politics-blog/ [19:10] TR Bot Recording Academy's VP of D.E.I. Ryan Butler Tells Us What Brings Him Joy Online [19:10] TR Bot Mozilla, Just Like the Linux Foundation, Has Turned to Politics at Firefoxs Expense | Techrights [19:10] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@sjrrmh2sjn6mi.irc) has joined #techrights [19:11] matey imo they should do it for freedom as well, and most likely will [19:11] TR News "Sadly that means no Linux support, even though the (POP 2) scanner itself runs Linux, but some people have managed to run the host software on Linux through Wine." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/27/revopoint-mini-3d-scanner-digitizes-small-objects-with-0-02mm-precision/ [19:11] TR Bot Revopoint MINI 3D scanner digitizes small objects with 0.02mm precision (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software [19:12] TR News Servers: Slim.AI and Kubernetes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166550 [19:12] TR Bot Servers: Slim.AI and Kubernetes | Tux Machines [19:12] TR News The JavaScript Specification has a New License Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166551 [19:12] TR Bot The JavaScript Specification has a New License | Tux Machines [19:17] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/06/27/1106859552/primary-illinois-colorado-republican-candidate-democrats-ads [19:17] TR Bot Democrats are bankrolling ads boosting Republican primary candidates. Here's why : NPR [19:17] DaemonFC There is a certain immediate logic to it, but giving these people a megaphone moves the needle to the right, and then when their ideas catch on and they win elections years later, the damage is even worse. [19:19] DaemonFC Illinois has had Republican governors, recently even. It's still a possibility. They're playing with fire here that the guy goes ahead and does win somehow and we're stuck with him for four years. [19:21] DaemonFC I think the danger in this election is that all these people will show up and rage for a few days or a week or two about Roe and then they'll just go back to staring at their iPhones and miss the election, and then we might get the Darren Baileys. [19:22] DaemonFC The media has been portraying the ruling incorrectly to panic everyone. [19:22] DaemonFC The ruling getting rid of Roe says that it is not about reversing a right to privacy, and that it affects no other right or decision the court has made. [19:23] DaemonFC That this one is uniquely different because it involves the destruction of a human life. [19:23] DaemonFC The only person that went further was Thomas, which was to be expected. [19:23] DaemonFC He's been the Tea Party judge on the court for about 30 years. [19:26] TR News Links 27/06/2022: GnuCash 4.11, digiKam 7.7.0, and Easy 4.2.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/digikam-7-7-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/digikam-7-7-0/ [19:26] TR Bot Links 27/06/2022: GnuCash 4.11, digiKam 7.7.0, and Easy 4.2.1 | Techrights [19:27] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166552 [19:27] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:27] TR News Free Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166553 [19:27] TR Bot Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:27] DaemonFC "Analysts have said a call-up of reservists by Russia could vastly alter the balance in the war but could also come with political consequences for President Vladimir Putin's government." [19:27] DaemonFC Russia is throwing prisoners and people who have had 3 days of training into their war. [19:27] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166554 [19:27] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:29] TR News "Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 is pleased to host the Android Microconference" Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 is pleased to host the Android Microconference [19:32] TR News "The results of the survey clearly point to a demotivated, stressed and depressed workforce that has little to no trust in management and serious concerns regarding quality of the EPOs output." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/27/survey-epo-staff-dont-trust-top-management-concerns-about-quality/#comments [19:32] TR Bot Survey: EPO staff dont trust top management, concerns about quality - Kluwer Patent Blog [19:32] TR News "76% find their work interesting is a pretty good starting point. The communications problem between management and staff has been evident for quite some time and escalated to levels where change appears to be inevitable. Can EPO find a 21st century manager?" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/27/survey-epo-staff-dont-trust-top-management-concerns-about-quality/#comments [19:33] TR News "These results are appalling. In any sane public sector organization, the only conclusion would be that a major shake-up in management is urgently needed. Now, of course, this being the EPO, I am not holding my breath." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/27/survey-epo-staff-dont-trust-top-management-concerns-about-quality/#comments [19:33] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/06/27/1107109243/amazon-kindle-ebook-return-policy [19:33] TR Bot Amazon's e-book return policy comes under criticism from authors : NPR [19:33] DaemonFC LOL [19:41] Schestowitz-3 does amazon also sponsor npr? [19:41] Schestowitz-3 or not yet? [19:42] Schestowitz-3 does npr have artticles about epstein being closely connected to bill gates? I think I know the answer [19:42] Schestowitz-3 bezos, are you listening? [19:42] Schestowitz-3 listener-supported progamme wink wink [19:42] Schestowitz-3 open yo' wallet [19:43] TR News Install Firefox 102 On Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166528#comment-34156 [19:43] TR Bot Mozilla Firefox 102 Is Now Available for Download, Adds Geoclue Support on Linux | Tux Machines [19:44] matey npr is to radio what fsf is to software [19:44] matey a not for profit run by corporate sponsors, tantamount to fraud and at any rate, a laughable farce [19:44] matey but like the fsf it wasnt like that originally [19:45] matey and like with the fsf im a former supporter [19:45] TR News Better replace macOS with GNU/Linux and discover some freedom https://www.addictivetips.com/mac-os/how-to-factory-reset-macbook-air/ [19:45] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/mac-os/how-to-factory-reset-macbook-air/ ) [19:47] Schestowitz-3 matey: npr protects you rom gates critics [19:47] Schestowitz-3 who are of course cranks and violent criminalks [19:47] Schestowitz-3 all of them [19:47] Schestowitz-3 according to npr [19:48] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, Amazon does sponsor NPR. [19:48] TR News radv: improve 16bit FSR performance (!15176) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/15176/commits?commit_id=4235dd7b47286919fdd7f0c9dfad6e4055d9fb1f Source: gitlab [19:48] TR Bot radv: improve 16bit FSR performance (!15176) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab [19:48] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166555 [19:48] DaemonFC They said so on the radio after running a story about Amazon and labor unions. [19:48] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:49] Schestowitz-3 DaemonFC: that's one thing matey and amazon have in common [19:49] Schestowitz-3 but they are not the same [19:49] Schestowitz-3 amazon gets editorial control, matey does not [19:49] Schestowitz-3 a bit like fsf sponsors [19:49] Schestowitz-3 "patrons" [19:49] Schestowitz-3 versus members [19:49] DaemonFC I wonder if you're still allowed to donate $600 to a non-profit this year and take it off your taxes without itemizing. [19:49] DaemonFC If you can, I may write Planned Parenthood a check for $600 depending on what our taxes look like. [19:50] matey but they are not the same [19:50] matey amazon gets editorial control [19:50] matey a bit like fsf sponsors [19:50] matey im trying to figure out what your point is [19:51] TR News Oh dear. Going after GCC now with Microsoft CoCs and Proprietary Sofwtare (Gtithub) https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2022-June/238991.html [19:51] TR Bot Rust front-end [19:51] Schestowitz-3 matey: ^^ [19:51] Schestowitz-3 not just D [19:51] Schestowitz-3 matey: amazon is another tied [19:51] Schestowitz-3 amazon is not even a person [19:51] Schestowitz-3 it's not a listener [19:51] Schestowitz-3 just some stakeholder [19:51] Schestowitz-3 trying to mess with the media [19:52] Schestowitz-3 the reason people need national mediais to avoid that [19:52] matey i see this as an insignificant distinction [19:52] Schestowitz-3 so the reports can blast any corporation which deserves blasting [19:52] matey he reason people need national mediais to avoid that [19:52] Schestowitz-3 without fear of fundings being revoked [19:52] matey yeah, fsf is also supposed to watch out for consumers / listeners / supporters [19:52] matey but they do a crap job there too [19:53] TR News "One project I am working on in hopes of having something ready in Fedora 37 final is a new set of installed-by-default but not set as default extra wallpapers for Fedora." https://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2022/06/27/abstract-wallpapers-in-blender-using-geometry-nodes/ [19:53] TR Bot Abstract wallpapers in Blender using geometry nodes Mirn Duffy [19:54] matey npr has always had several sponsors [19:54] matey the bill and melinda gates have been sponsors for years [19:55] matey they had others too [19:55] matey they still have others, that hasnt changed [19:55] matey people have made these complaints for more than a decade [19:55] matey longer than theyve complained about the fsf selling out [19:55] matey but ive also compared the new fsf to npr for years [19:55] matey as its a similar farce [19:56] matey and this happens to non-profits [19:56] matey they stop being about a cause, become entirely about "awareness" (of some NAME of a cause, nothing importat about it-- of their own org, of the need for members etc) [19:56] matey they become more about fundraising and less about doing anything (except just enough to justify taking money) [19:56] matey now its like [19:56] matey not about free software [19:56] matey its about the IDEA of free software [19:57] matey we need to bring the IDEA of free software to the world [19:57] matey as far as it will go-- even if it means nothing [19:57] matey jesus taught many things, mostly about how to give a shit about people [19:57] matey so they said lets go spread that [19:57] matey then they just spread jesus [19:57] matey then they just decided they had to convert everyone [19:58] matey so now the point of getting people to accept jesus is to they can go get people to accept jesus [19:58] matey and thats as deep as it gets-- like a spiritual pyramid scheme [19:58] matey you just sell selling selling it [19:58] matey and it doesnt even DO anything [19:58] TR News The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 132: Ryan Black on the Governments Latest Attempt at Privacy Law Reform https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/06/law-bytes-podcast-episode-132/ [19:58] TR Bot The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 132: Ryan Black on the Government's Latest Attempt at Privacy Law Reform - Michael Geist [19:58] matey love your neighbour help the poor and sick and needy feed the hungry [19:58] matey NAH fuck that [19:58] matey JESUS JESUS JESUS [19:58] matey fsf fsf fsf [19:59] matey marsha marsha marsha! [19:59] matey blah blah blah [19:59] matey nonsense ● Jun 27 [20:01] TR News Why Robots Need to See - Robotics Business Review https://www.roboticsbusinessreview.com/opinion/why-robots-need-to-see/ Source: roboticsbusinessreview [20:01] TR Bot Why Robots Need to See - Robotics Business Review [20:01] matey imo the fsf is just a pyramid scheme at this point [20:01] matey posing as an organisation that does anything [20:01] TR News DSHR's Blog: Pseudonymity And Cooperation https://blog.dshr.org/2022/06/pseudonymity-and-cooperation.html Source: dshr [20:01] TR Bot DSHR's Blog: Pseudonymity And Cooperation [20:01] matey riding its former glory-- but not just riding it [20:01] matey milking it [20:01] matey ok that sounds a bit dirty [20:01] matey but either way, everyones getting fucked [20:02] matey if i didnt think they were doing this, i wouldnt say it again and again [20:02] matey ive looked very hard for counter examples that add up to anything [20:02] matey its fake now [20:03] TR News Surveillance and assassination in "HEY HI" clothing so that fools will cheer and think "YUS!!!! THIS. IS. SCIENCE!!" https://www.wired.com/story/ai-machine-learning-us-intelligence-community/ [20:03] TR Bot Power and Pitfalls of AI for US Intelligence | WIRED [20:05] TR News And North Macedonia feels unwanted https://rubenerd.com/ukraine-and-moldova-granted-eu-candidate-status/ [20:05] TR Bot Ukraine and Moldova granted EU candidate status [20:09] TR News Listening devices disguised as corpses https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/23/alexa-amazon-voice-dead-people/ [20:09] TR Bot Amazon Alexa unveils new technology that can mimic voices, including the dead - The Washington Post [20:11] SomeH4x0r in the game Uplink, there is Voice_Analyzer [20:12] SomeH4x0r matey did watch a walkthrough, maybe they noticed it [20:12] SomeH4x0r it is to call a system administrator, gather his voice, and use it against voice security system [20:12] matey they have stuff like that now [20:13] matey but i dont know if it works against state of the art voiceprint tech-- if there even is state of the art voiceprint tech [20:13] TR News Rooing the day: Qantas passengers and crew taken for a ride by the board - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/rooing-the-day-qantas-passengers-and-crew-taken-for-a-ride-by-the-board/ Source: michaelwest [20:13] TR Bot Rooing the day: Qantas passengers and crew taken for a ride by the board - Michael West [20:13] matey its good enough to fool people [20:13] matey so if youre talking to them on the phone, talking to a person, you can definitely abuse that [20:13] matey youtube has examples of people demonstrating it [20:14] matey using it on someones mother for example [20:14] matey a mother would know, right? [20:14] matey but theyre not trying to scam her, they let her in on it after fooling her [20:14] matey theyre demoing the technology [20:21] DaemonFC Reading for free = Stealing from authors. [20:21] DaemonFC Shhh, don't mention that there's a public library. [20:21] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-7x3CbbR-ns [20:21] TR Bot This Audio Editing Tool "Deep Faked" My Voice (Actually Useful or SCARY?) - Invidious [20:22] DaemonFC Public radio. [20:22] DaemonFC Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Elon Musk = The Public [20:22] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, Tesla announced layoffs and a hiring freeze of non-managerial employees this morning. [20:23] DaemonFC Did you see this? [20:23] matey non-free of course [20:23] matey but the fact that the technology exists has nothing to do with whether i would use it [20:24] matey i also dont use wifi cracking software [20:24] matey but its good to know it exists even if you dont use it [20:27] Schestowitz-3 DaemonFC: microsoft also [20:27] Schestowitz-3 did not openly announce it [20:28] Schestowitz-3 maybe biden bailouts are too slow [20:28] Schestowitz-3 only 22,000 MILLION [20:28] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, How does this sound? [20:28] matey only [20:28] Schestowitz-3 Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Elon Musk = The Public [20:28] DaemonFC " [20:28] DaemonFC Elon Musk/Tesla goes from firing people to own the libs and because we grew too fast to because theyll have to fire bankruptcy soon. [20:28] DaemonFC Elon Musk, just days/a few weeks ago said they would trim about 10% of the managerial staff at Tesla because we grew too fast and now we have to get headcount down to operate more efficiently. [20:28] DaemonFC Then he said he was firing the Diversity and Inclusion Team to own the libs. [20:28] DaemonFC Then he declared in the past week that if Tesla keeps operating the way it is, with their factories being gigantic money furnaces, theyll be in bankruptcy court very soon. [20:28] Schestowitz-3 it sounds like you are joking ;-) [20:28] DaemonFC And now they announce a hiring freeze and are laying off based on seniority. [20:28] DaemonFC Everyone who bought one of these things, proprietary software, patented parts, and zero repair manuals, will most likely end up with a very expensive car in the driveway that is malfunctioning and cant be serviced by anybody pretty soon. [20:28] DaemonFC " [20:29] Schestowitz-3 DaemonFC: FILE [20:29] Schestowitz-3 not fire [20:29] Schestowitz-3 but you never know [20:29] Schestowitz-3 maybe they will fire [20:29] Schestowitz-3 than file [20:29] Schestowitz-3 maybe they'll set fire to the "libs" [20:29] Schestowitz-3 you know they are easily flammable [20:29] Schestowitz-3 he'll fire the empoyees [20:29] Schestowitz-3 aand then fire the bankruptcy [20:29] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, You don't have to use AC Delco parts on my car. You can. If you want to. [20:30] Schestowitz-3 if "pedo guy" elon says 10% [20:30] Schestowitz-3 ready as, much higher [20:30] Schestowitz-3 but at LEAST 10% [20:30] Schestowitz-3 *read as [20:30] DaemonFC The fact that there is an aftermarket for almost everything on the car keeps the OEM parts cost down as well. [20:30] DaemonFC It's like when medicine goes generic and the name brand company has to slash prices to avoid losing the entire market. [20:31] Schestowitz-3 TESLA is part of the watt street bubble scam [20:31] DaemonFC I used an AC Delco serpentine belt tensioner because I know full well what the aftermarket is like on those things. It's pretty crap, honestly. [20:31] Schestowitz-3 take companyies that barely ever made money [20:31] Schestowitz-3 slap 1 trillion [20:31] Schestowitz-3 2 trillion [20:31] Schestowitz-3 on them [20:31] Schestowitz-3 make it up [20:31] DaemonFC I tried to cheap out on the part with the Ford and ended up having to do the job three times. [20:31] Schestowitz-3 wall street low? [20:31] Schestowitz-3 slap 4 trillion [20:31] DaemonFC So in the end I saved nothing. [20:31] Schestowitz-3 bam. s&p up SHARPLY [20:31] Schestowitz-3 then loyoffs [20:31] DaemonFC But with simpler parts, you can do after market and some of the suppliers are pretty good quality. [20:31] Schestowitz-3 they need to save on jimmy's $40k salary [20:32] Schestowitz-3 in the company vealued at 4,000,000,000K [20:32] DaemonFC I've had a lot of luck with after market suspension components from Moog and Monroe, which you wouldn't figure on, because those have to hold up the entire front end of the car. [20:32] DaemonFC So why are those more reliable than an aftermarket belt tensioner? [20:32] DaemonFC But it is what it is. [20:33] Schestowitz-3 btw [20:33] Schestowitz-3 you might want to look into the s&p compsite [20:33] Schestowitz-3 namely map the overall value [20:33] Schestowitz-3 and find how many companies make up like 70% of the toal [20:33] DaemonFC The difference in cost between an OE belt tensioner and an aftermarket is maybe $50, but like, struts? LOL You can find quick struts that are like $150 each that will stop your old car from bouncing up and down. [20:33] Schestowitz-3 you may find a handful that are valued like 10 times their real perceived worth [20:33] Schestowitz-3 so s&p is pure comdety [20:33] DaemonFC If you look at OE, you can expect to pay anywhere between $600-1000 each, just for the part, and you have to do two at once.... [20:33] Schestowitz-3 they say how many companies are included [20:33] Schestowitz-3 but not all are equal [20:34] DaemonFC Oh, I would not buy a Tesla. [20:34] Schestowitz-3 the "top" company can be like 100 at the "bottom" [20:34] DaemonFC It will never save you enough gas money for what you're in for. [20:34] Schestowitz-3 gas? [20:34] Schestowitz-3 it runs on air [20:34] Schestowitz-3 no? [20:34] DaemonFC It's one of those things where it's like a hybrid car, you know. They add so many parts that the reliability is not great after several years. [20:35] Schestowitz-3 the electricity is made very very renewable green sustainable greenery [20:35] DaemonFC It becomes an endless money pit. [20:35] DaemonFC Just giving up and accepting maybe 19-20 mpg in the city is better than that. [20:35] Schestowitz-3 maybe ther Tesla estate will sue "pedo guy" musk [20:35] Schestowitz-3 _^_^ [20:35] Schestowitz-3 for tarnishing great-grandpa's name [20:35] DaemonFC The entire car is aging at the same rate, and then after a while, fixing it is like that old game where you're the plumber and you have to shoot gremlins while fixing pipe leaks. [20:36] DaemonFC That was my favorite game on the Commodore. [20:36] DaemonFC You fix one, two spring up somewhere else, you fix those, some gremlins come and you have to stop what you're doing and shoot them. [20:36] DaemonFC Eventually you can't keep up with the leaks. [20:38] DaemonFC https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/21/23176964/tesla-layoffs-lawsuit-gigafactory-warn-act-violate [20:38] TR Bot Tesla accused of violating federal law over mass layoffs at Gigafactory - The Verge [20:38] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, Musk violated the WARN Act with his mass layoffs. [20:38] DaemonFC He gave them no notice and will now probably have to pay them their usual salary * 60 days as well as any unemployment benefits they are due. [20:40] Schestowitz-3 he will threatsn to move tooo [20:40] DaemonFC But the damages for Tesla are very small for breaking this law, so he did it. [20:40] Schestowitz-3 oih, wait, TX already [20:40] DaemonFC Where? WARN is federal, although some states have their own that are stronger. [20:40] Schestowitz-3 maybe he can get those pseudo abortion judges to let him off the hook [20:40] Schestowitz-3 DaemonFC: I was being facetious [20:40] Schestowitz-3 people worship this scum [20:40] Schestowitz-3 sociopath [20:41] Schestowitz-3 like he's sto cool [20:41] Schestowitz-3 by dodging the law [20:41] Schestowitz-3 and boasting about being an a-hole [20:42] Schestowitz-3 peoplec an buy EV [20:42] Schestowitz-3 or hybrid [20:42] Schestowitz-3 from some brand like volvo [20:42] Schestowitz-3 owned by the big boys [20:42] Schestowitz-3 that won't sink under in a few years [20:42] Schestowitz-3 so you can still maintain the darn thing [20:42] Schestowitz-3 tesla was alwasys bubble [20:43] Schestowitz-3 musk got that thing cheap [20:43] Schestowitz-3 and paid to make a myth [20:43] Schestowitz-3 my dad always said it was bluff [20:43] Schestowitz-3 because not only tesla had EVs [20:43] Schestowitz-3 and it had no value propoition [20:43] Schestowitz-3 pure marketing [20:43] Schestowitz-3 owners of tesla vehicles should worry [20:43] Schestowitz-3 soon they might struggle do do operations and maintenance [20:44] Schestowitz-3 unless it gets sold to some company [20:44] Schestowitz-3 willing to still supply and provide.... but at what price? [20:45] matey be a shame if tesla went the way of those microsoft ebooks [20:45] matey sorry, tesla servers are down [20:46] matey have you tried a horse and buggy? [20:46] Schestowitz-3 matey: while driving? [20:46] Schestowitz-3 " tesla went the way of those microsoft ebooks " ^ [20:46] matey youre that cynical, i barely am [20:46] matey i can almost imagine that but i think its unlikely [20:46] Schestowitz-3 they would sell the "assets" [20:46] matey simply not working anymore, that i can believe [20:46] Schestowitz-3 someone will buy on the cheap [20:46] matey that seems just possible [20:47] Schestowitz-3 even some "smart" home companies that fold [20:47] Schestowitz-3 sometimes might want to blackmail the fools who bought them [20:47] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/elon-musk-tesla-goes-from-firing-people-to-own-the-libs-and-because-we-grew-too-fast-to-because-theyll-have-to-fire-bankruptcy-soon/ [20:47] TR Bot Elon Musk/Tesla goes from firing people to own the libs and because we grew too fast to because theyll have to fire bankruptcy soon. BaronHK's Rants [20:47] Schestowitz-3 to keep some servers online [20:47] matey they would sell the "assets" such assets are as good as sold the moment theyre collected [20:47] Schestowitz-3 DaemonFC: typo [20:47] Schestowitz-3 in headline [20:47] Schestowitz-3 \ [20:47] matey sometimes just hacked in bulk then put online [20:47] Schestowitz-3 rire->file [20:47] Schestowitz-3 hence my jokes earlier [20:47] Schestowitz-3 about firing things [20:48] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/elon-musk-tesla-goes-from-firing-people-to-own-the-libs-and-because-we-grew-too-fast-to-because-theyll-have-to-file-bankruptcy-soon/ [20:48] TR Bot Elon Musk/Tesla goes from firing people to own the libs and because we grew too fast to because theyll have to file bankruptcy soon. BaronHK's Rants [20:48] Schestowitz-3 CFOI: elon, we need bakruptcy [20:48] DaemonFC fire, file [20:48] Schestowitz-3 Musk: FIRE IT!! [20:48] DaemonFC Slip because they fire people until they file bankruptcy, I'm sure. [20:48] Schestowitz-3 yeah [20:49] DaemonFC I might work on this a bit more. [20:49] DaemonFC Mention that this backdoor shit, and product activators, are what Microsoft does to segment the market with Windows. [20:50] DaemonFC Everyone gets the same binaries but Windows does more or less depending on how much you paid. [20:50] TR News Linux Lite OS 6.0 Review: Well built Linux for Windows Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166556 [20:50] TR Bot Linux Lite OS 6.0 Review: Well built Linux for Windows Users | Tux Machines [20:54] DaemonFC "When hurricanes approach Florida and Texas, Tesla gets into your car via the backdoor and increases the range another 60 or 70 miles, temporarily, so you dont get caught in the hurricane and sue them, and then they go back to sabotaging it unless you pay them to remove the restriction. [20:54] DaemonFC Microsoft has had this business model with Windows for years. [20:54] DaemonFC Everyone gets the same OS with the same binaries, compiled exactly the same way, but you get limitations that are enforced by Software Licensing Service depending on how much you paid them, so they can cripple or enable the software by any amount any time, and then you need to get a new serial number and activate it again and suddenly it does more. [20:54] DaemonFC Of course this is nonsense. Everyone who downloads a GNU/Linux distribution gets the same binaries and can use it however they want. [20:54] DaemonFC The desktop binaries have the same capabilities as the server binaries. They both cost no money. You just decide which role you want to deploy, and you can add capabilities by adding new software packages whenever you like. Thus, the only reason to separate the roles is to conserve resources and reduce security footprint based upon the needs of the user. [20:54] DaemonFC But with Tesla behaving like Microsoft with licensing and backdoors, it makes you wonder what else is in these cars that is waiting to explode if Tesla isnt there to tell your car what to do, even if you can find someone to service it mechanically somehow? I guess if you bought one, youll find out." [20:55] DaemonFC I bungled that a bit. [20:56] mole who authored this tesla-rant? [20:56] mole DaemonFC: was this yours? [20:56] DaemonFC "But with Tesla behaving like Microsoft with licensing and backdoors, doesnt it make you wonder what else is in these cars that is waiting to fail if Tesla isnt there to tell your car what to do, even if you can find someone to service it mechanically somehow? I guess if you bought one, youll find out." [20:56] DaemonFC Tesla is not a stable company. [20:57] DaemonFC They're more dotcom 2.0 shit. [20:57] DaemonFC They're in serious trouble now. For starters, their income stream from getting CAFE fees from real car companies will be cut off. [20:57] matey it was crowd sourced on twitter [20:58] DaemonFC Cadillac and Buick are going all electric, and you can get affordable EVs from Chevy and Ford. [20:58] DaemonFC Including a real Ford truck. [20:58] matey part of the reason the sale to musk fell through [20:58] DaemonFC Not that thing that looked like it was from Halo that Elon Musk was on the stage with that they don't even make. [20:59] matey but it was adapted from a broadway musical script lifted shamelessly from a german playright [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] DaemonFC It's always funny when some guy in a Volkswagen or something thinks he's going to zoom past my Buick and cut me off. [20:59] matey sorry, dutch [20:59] DaemonFC I barely have to press the accelerator and I just tear past him. [20:59] DaemonFC It's those dinky little European 1 liter diesel engines or whatever they put in those. [20:59] DaemonFC Very sluggish. ● Jun 27 [21:00] DaemonFC Not only are they very sluggish, if you are saving any gas money, it comes right back out of your pocket because you have to get an engine block warmer for an additional fee or you can't start the car for three or four months, then you have to wait for the engine to warm up enough to start it, which may take 15 or 20 minutes. [21:01] DaemonFC And then you have to pour $20 of DEF in it every month or it goes into limp mode. [21:01] DaemonFC It's a nightmare driving a diesel car, and then the funnier part is because diesel has increased in price more than gas, you also have to pull over and pay about 80 cents a gallon more. [21:03] DaemonFC Some coal roller got me yesterday. [21:04] DaemonFC I sent the video from my dash cam along with his license plate number to the Illinois EPA. [21:04] DaemonFC He violated the laws against modifying an emissions system and the Illinois "smoking car" law. [21:05] DaemonFC The one for the emissions system can mean a big fine and prison time. [21:05] DaemonFC The "smoking car" law is usually what they charge if your car is burning oil or something and is a petty offense. They revoke your registration and fine you $1,000. [21:12] DaemonFC There is a smoking car law in Indiana, but it's unenforced. [21:12] DaemonFC Half the people there drive some old clunker that couldn't pass emissions in Illinois. [21:13] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166557 [21:13] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:13] DaemonFC Mom was angry when Indiana had a basic safety inspection that went over things like your brake pads and tire tread depth. [21:13] DaemonFC I mean, and it was so stupid, right, because who wants to die over a set of tires? [21:14] DaemonFC It's legal to buy used ones. Back then, she ended up passing the inspection by going to a gas station and paying the guy $40 to take off four bald tires with the cords showing and put on 4 used ones that at least had 70% of their tread life. [21:15] DaemonFC She runs her cars hard without fixing anything until it's pure luck that she doesn't have a serious accident. [21:15] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, When I handed her the 2003 Impala back she said "This thing gets great gas mileage. What did you do to it?". [21:16] DaemonFC I said "Had it tuned up and all the vacuum leaks fixed, and a lot of other stuff.". [21:16] DaemonFC There's a lot of stuff you can do to a car where it will still run but you'll lose half your gas mileage. [21:17] DaemonFC She's over there yelling about Biden and $5 gas while the car's burning twice as much of it as it would if she had them smoke test it and fix some vacuum leaks. [21:19] mole $5/gallon, which is ridiculously cheap [21:21] DaemonFC There's rebates. [21:21] DaemonFC They throw rebates on it to people who bother to take them. [21:21] DaemonFC I can get 9-10% of what gas costs that day back. [21:22] DaemonFC I can't make my car 10% more efficient than it is now. [21:22] DaemonFC But I can mess around with some credit cards and apps and get that amount back in rebate accounts. [21:23] DaemonFC The fact that they can afford to tolerate rebates of that size proves that there's no reason to charge $5.59 a gallon for gas. [21:23] DaemonFC They could cut the price for everyone, but then they wouldn't be making record profits. [21:23] DaemonFC So it's just like any other sort of coupon. [21:24] DaemonFC You tolerate a certain amount of it to get demand up and not lose market to the other guys, and stick it to less price sensitive customers. [21:24] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, I find myself frequently planning dinners around what's on rebate. [21:24] DaemonFC Like, if I can get some of the ingredients on rebate, some generic, some meat that I got real cheap and froze..... [21:25] DaemonFC I can't stop us from having to drive the car and burn gas, or having to eat, but I do have _some_ control over what it costs. [21:26] DaemonFC Mandy devalues this as a "contribution". Why would he devalue that? If neither of us had any time to do that, we'd pay with money instead. If I can cut a couple hundred out of our budget each month that doesn't change the outcome of what gets done, that should be counted as income. Better than income! [21:26] DaemonFC Income you don't have to work for or pay taxes on! [21:27] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, I set my mom up to go into partial retirement. [21:27] DaemonFC She only has to work half as many hours now, and as a result, her income will go up by over 40%. [21:27] DaemonFC And she gets better medical care. [21:27] DaemonFC So she was thrilled with that. [21:28] Schestowitz-3 i might do this myself [21:28] DaemonFC She really didn't want to wait for "full retirement benefits" from Social Security once I told her how much she'd lose in Pension money for delaying. [21:28] Schestowitz-3 need to keep expenses very low though [21:28] DaemonFC :) [21:28] Schestowitz-3 inflation has been insane [21:29] DaemonFC I told her if she takes Social Security now, she gets to take the pension money, and she'll surely get the checks from Social Security from now until "full retirement" that she may otherwise not have gotten. [21:29] DaemonFC Plus, her taxes will be lower when she goes into full retirement later, and I can sign her up then for a program that covers all of her Medicare expenses, which she would not qualify for with the income boost from waiting. [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:30] DaemonFC So they'd just steal it all from her in some totally different way. [21:30] DaemonFC Once she saw my reasoning, which I had to circle around a few times and go back to something, she said she really couldn't afford not to do it now. [21:31] DaemonFC I told her "Gee, if you wait, you lose all of these checks, end up paying your Social Security to the IRS and state, and then you're on the hook for all your Medicare premiums and co-pays when you stop working. They'll take just as much that way as they will if you file now." [21:32] DaemonFC Fucking bastards. [21:32] DaemonFC They never let you keep anything if they can help it. [21:32] DaemonFC Then look at the shitty government we get. [21:33] DaemonFC Everyone in Europe says "Oh you pay less in taxes.", yes, we do, and in return for paying like 2/3rds of the taxes you do we get a government where if you hear anything at all from them, it's bad. [21:33] DaemonFC It's either criminal charges or the IRS, and it's never about what they can do to help you. [21:33] DaemonFC So fuck them all to death. [21:33] DaemonFC That's why our European friends don't understand why we hate taxes and the government around here. [21:38] Schestowitz-3 which european friends? [21:38] DaemonFC Welfare programs for other people and the cops for you. [21:38] Schestowitz-3 the US has a very negative image here [21:38] DaemonFC "SAVE ME HURT THEM! SAVE ME HURT THEM!" [21:39] Schestowitz-3 US contewmpt for tax was politicised [21:39] Schestowitz-3 inc. by "libertarians" [21:39] DaemonFC It's theft. [21:39] Schestowitz-3 there's also extreme graft [21:39] Schestowitz-3 starting with the Pentagon [21:39] DaemonFC So they can give it to some fucking parasites that "work" for the government. [21:39] Schestowitz-3 feeding many oligarchs off its palm [21:39] DaemonFC And people who have like 10 kids they can't afford from 4 fathers who are all in prison. [21:39] DaemonFC Oh yeah, and Musk. [21:40] Schestowitz-3 misuse of tax money isn't bad there [21:40] Schestowitz-3 you need to look at the worse piecture [21:40] Schestowitz-3 in the UK it wasd visualised [21:40] Schestowitz-3 how much benefit fraud costs us [21:40] Schestowitz-3 it's tiny and minuscule [21:40] Schestowitz-3 compared to other things [21:40] DaemonFC Yeah, those numbers are published by the government. [21:40] Schestowitz-3 army, tax avoidance by the rich, corporations [21:40] DaemonFC They always claim that it's low. [21:40] Schestowitz-3 so the perception is all wrong [21:41] Schestowitz-3 the rich scapegoat the poor [21:41] Schestowitz-3 so you don't pay attentoon to where trillions per year go [21:41] Schestowitz-3 so the deficit is massive [21:41] Schestowitz-3 they want you angry at black mothers [21:41] DaemonFC Even if it really is "one percent" improper payments in a $7 trillion dollar budget, that's a lot of money. [21:41] Schestowitz-3 not a spiled fraud from south africa [21:41] Schestowitz-3 and the BFF of Epstein [21:41] DaemonFC And they don't consider whether the program is immoral or not working as intended. [21:41] Schestowitz-3 who buys all the land [21:42] DaemonFC Only whether the money was paid out in accordance with the wording of the law. [21:42] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, The Indiana slumlord with three Cadillacs who got $12,000 to "save her own job". LOL [21:42] Schestowitz-3 you fancy yourself "woke" on the reality of the law [21:42] Schestowitz-3 but you fall for the poor-shaming [21:42] DaemonFC Lots of cases like hers. [21:42] Schestowitz-3 and miss the bigger pictur [21:42] Schestowitz-3 ewhile cirting their corporate media [21:43] Schestowitz-3 you are an unemployed buick owner [21:43] Schestowitz-3 used one [21:43] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, Does someone with three Cadillac cars who lives off owning half the apartments in the city need $12,000 in loan forgiveness to save their own job? [21:43] Schestowitz-3 that's a disparity [21:43] DaemonFC The law said she did, apparently. [21:43] Schestowitz-3 I don't even oown a car anymore [21:43] Schestowitz-3 and I don't buy much [21:44] DaemonFC Three cars is an extravagance, Roy. [21:44] Schestowitz-3 did you reead this in the paper? [21:44] DaemonFC Much less three Cadillacs, none of which are more than a few years old. [21:44] Schestowitz-3 the tabloids here do this [21:44] Schestowitz-3 they look for the most absurd cases [21:44] Schestowitz-3 and then make it seem like the poor are thieves [21:44] DaemonFC I know her personally, Roy, only she had Lincolns when I lived in town. [21:44] DaemonFC She must have gotten tired of the Lincolns and sold them off for Cadillacs. [21:45] DaemonFC It's something someone with so much money they run out of ways to spend it would do. [21:45] DaemonFC And the government is giving her $12,000 from PPP. [21:45] DaemonFC Nearly $12,000. [21:45] TR News Elon Musk/Tesla goes from firing people to being his real self, "pedo guy" - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/elon-musk-tesla-goes-from-firing-people-to-own-the-libs-and-because-we-grew-too-fast-to-because-theyll-have-to-file-bankruptcy-soon/ Source: baronhk | ryan farmer [21:45] TR Bot Elon Musk/Tesla goes from firing people to own the libs and because we grew too fast to because theyll have to file bankruptcy soon. BaronHK's Rants [21:46] DaemonFC She drove Lincoln Towncars, which were basically Crown Victorias with air ride suspensions, more features, leather seats, etc. [21:46] DaemonFC Upgraded trim... [21:46] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, Yeah, you have to watch out with used luxury cars. [21:47] DaemonFC If you do buy an old one real cheap it's for a reason. [21:47] DaemonFC If you see an old Cadillac or Lincoln and the back end is sagging, that would be the air ride. [21:48] DaemonFC Some black guy with a 1998 Cadillac came into the shop while I was there for something and he asked about getting the air ride fixed. [21:48] Schestowitz-3 don't worry, I'm not plannign to buy a car [21:48] Schestowitz-3 it can be more work than a kid [21:48] DaemonFC Shaq said over $4,000. The guy goes "God damn!". I said, "You could convert it to struts a lot cheaper than that.". [21:48] Schestowitz-3 and kids last longere thtn cars [21:48] Schestowitz-3 usually [21:48] DaemonFC He asks Shaq. Shaq says "About $1,000.". [21:48] DaemonFC The guy goes "Okay, let's do that then." Then he tells me "Hey thanks, man!". [21:49] DaemonFC You can change over a Cadillac to quick struts. It won't ride like a Cadillac anymore, but it's a lot better than a broken air ride. [21:49] DaemonFC :) [21:49] DaemonFC I figured nobody wants to put over $4,000 into a new air ride on a 98 Cadillac. [21:50] Schestowitz-3 I have a daft [21:50] Schestowitz-3 wanna read? [21:50] Schestowitz-3 \*draft [21:51] DaemonFC It's Waukegan, so I mean, even if you did fix it to OE specifications, you could turn out of the parking lot and have one of those unguided missiles with no car insurance hit you. [21:51] matey the US has a very negative image here <- britain followed the usa into war crimes [21:51] matey if you and a guy rob a bank, youd ultimately like people to think what a lousy guy the other robber is [21:51] DaemonFC It's better to just fix what's actually wrong with the car until it's no longer worth it anymore. [21:51] matey and ignore your part in it [21:51] matey brits that look down on americans should stop following them into illegal wars [21:52] DaemonFC You can dump any amount of money you want to into dealing with something that's an annoyance, or you can just drive it and keep it fixed up enough to get you around. [21:52] matey maybe give back the money they exploited from all those deaths [21:52] DaemonFC That'll be hard enough anyway. [21:52] DaemonFC wanna read? [21:52] DaemonFC Sure. [21:52] matey "our murders for profit are CIVILISED-- YOURS are UNCOUTH!" [21:52] matey doesnt matter if thats what you said or not [21:52] DaemonFC Those people who buy Teslas are not buying them for longevity or practicality. [21:52] matey thats how stupid the british mentality about this is [21:52] matey literally, "our murders dont stink" [21:53] Schestowitz-3 DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/epo-faking-popularity/ [21:53] DaemonFC Yeah, they have Boris Police Bill Johnson. [21:53] TR Bot EPO Management Glorifies Illegal Agenda and Violations of the European Patent Convention (EPC) to Impress the Administrative Council | Techrights [21:53] DaemonFC They sent tens of thousands of soldiers into Iraq and Afghanistan. [21:53] DaemonFC Hell, Roy even calls him Borisinaro for his COVID response. [21:53] matey every time i talk to some pompous british idiot about this [21:53] matey i want to drag them to the hague [21:53] matey "here-- you supported this" [21:53] matey "now pay for your crimes" [21:53] matey morons [21:54] matey i dont hate british people [21:54] matey i hate idiots [21:54] matey some british people are idiots [21:54] matey and some are simply lovely [21:54] DaemonFC "As the meeting of the Administrative Council approaches the Mafia brings out the lies" [21:54] matey and usually, theyre the once to decide [21:55] matey granted, ill give them this. most brits are better typists [21:56] DaemonFC "illegal agenda" [21:56] matey if they learned from previous mistakes it would suffice [21:56] DaemonFC an illegal agenda [21:56] matey but thats not the point of denying previous faults and shortsightedness [21:56] matey they want to be absolved of responsibility AND take the credit for all the good thats been done [21:56] matey i gotta say-- not as much good has been done as they think [21:56] DaemonFC The UK is contributing to screwing up the world as much as is possible given their rather smallish size and importants. [21:56] matey a lot of that is just crap [21:57] DaemonFC *importance [21:57] matey and some of it-- hey, credit where credit is due [21:57] matey but no more than that [21:57] DaemonFC I mean, they try at fascism. What did THEY gain from Iraq? [21:57] DaemonFC Nothing. [21:57] DaemonFC Pretty much nothing. [21:58] matey brits who theyre political superior are like prius owners who brag about fuel economy and then everything they own is made by child/slave labour [21:58] DaemonFC If the US had not sanctioned Iraq or Iran's oil, or Venezuela, or Argentina, or Chile, then things wouldn't be so bad right now. [21:58] matey youre not THAT amazing a consumer [21:58] matey youre not even so informed [21:58] DaemonFC The sanctions are what made Putin a threat. [21:58] DaemonFC Europe didn't want to do business with countries the US was sanctioning, so they entered into oil and gas agreements with Russia. [21:58] matey and they REALLY LOVE to talk about it ALL THE TIME [21:58] matey like [21:58] matey maybe, if they talk about americans for the next 20 years [21:58] DaemonFC And Putin is using, basically, their money to fund his war in Ukraine. [21:59] matey blair will no longer be a war criminal they supported [21:59] matey good luck with that [21:59] DaemonFC And now Europe is panicking at the last minute because they figured they could just pursue appeasement. [21:59] DaemonFC It worked very well when the UK tried to appease Hitler. [21:59] DaemonFC They figured it would work well with Putin. [21:59] DaemonFC Oh, he'll stop at Poland....right? RIGHT!? [21:59] matey maybe brits care about the differences between blair and putin ● Jun 27 [22:00] matey but i doubt the iraqis and ukrainians do [22:01] matey maybe the next time they want to talk about americans [22:01] matey they should go look up what britain did to civilians a couple decades ago [22:01] matey it probably wont be the last time [22:01] matey OH BUT THEY PAY TAXES [22:02] Schestowitz-3 DaemonFC: thanks, corrected [22:02] matey into a healthcare system that becomes a little closer to the american farce the longer new labour stays releavnt [22:02] matey well [22:02] Schestowitz-3 let me if you spot anything else later [22:02] matey thats what makes you great person politically [22:02] matey spending money on government [22:02] matey bad people dont pay taxes [22:02] TR News EPO Management Glorifies Illegal Agenda and Violations of the European Patent Convention (EPC) to Impress the Administrative Council | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/epo-faking-popularity/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/epo-faking-popularity/ [22:02] TR Bot EPO Management Glorifies Illegal Agenda and Violations of the European Patent Convention (EPC) to Impress the Administrative Council | Techrights [22:03] matey and people who pay taxes can murder civilians with impunity [22:03] matey thats the difference [22:03] DaemonFC I might talk about NordVPN some more. [22:03] matey they should just close the prisons and setup a murder tax [22:04] matey as long as you pay taxes, its no big deal [22:04] TR News DNF Command Line Package Manager in Linux: A Complete Guide Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166558 [22:04] TR Bot DNF Command Line Package Manager in Linux: A Complete Guide | Tux Machines [22:04] *bnchs (~bnchs@6s6w6kt685m22.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] matey maybe we can bring back the third reich, and just make sure all the nazis pay a war crimes tax [22:05] matey thats basically what ibm does now [22:05] Schestowitz-3 ICBM [22:05] Schestowitz-3 the cole war might save them [22:05] Schestowitz-3 cold war 2 [22:05] Schestowitz-3 more activity in the nuclea arsenals [22:05] Schestowitz-3 peak readiness [22:05] matey cold day in hell war [22:05] Schestowitz-3 the warheads need to be working 100% of the time [22:06] Schestowitz-3 putin is a dinobaby [22:06] matey you can kill some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time [22:06] Schestowitz-3 lol [22:06] matey but you cant kill all of the people all of the time [22:06] Schestowitz-3 fire them [22:06] Schestowitz-3 ICBM: we fire [22:06] Schestowitz-3 FIRE!! [22:06] Schestowitz-3 matey: you can't fire a slave [22:06] Schestowitz-3 you can reject the slavee [22:06] matey right in the fuhrers face [22:07] Schestowitz-3 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dZlFBSRrSR0 [22:07] TR Bot Spike Jones Der Fuehrer's Face - Invidious [22:08] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nkEZTt_h8mE [22:08] TR Bot 1942 HITS ARCHIVE: Der Fuehrers Face - Spike Jones (Carl Grayson & band, vocal) - Invidious [22:19] *isak has quit (connection closed) [22:20] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [22:20] *bnchs has quit (Quit: leaving) [22:20] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/nordvpn-becoming-more-annoying-and-scammy/ [22:21] TR Bot NordVPN becoming more annoying and scammy. BaronHK's Rants [22:21] DaemonFC The Tor Network is unbelievably slow. [22:21] DaemonFC It's not good for sharing files, especially large ones. [22:22] DaemonFC A few BitTorrent clients had "Tor" plug-ins, and then leaked out your real IP address anyway. [22:23] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:24] matey matey: you can't fire a slave <- debatable https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_1VoMLwb_oA [22:24] TR Bot What Happened When Kamikaze Pilots Failed or Wimped Out? (Short Animated Documentary) - Invidious [22:25] TR News [Meme] Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campino Buying Elections Since 2010 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/meme-benoit-battistelli-and-antonio-campino-buying-elections-since-2010/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/27/meme-benoit-battistelli-and-antonio-campino-buying-elections-since-2010/ [22:25] TR Bot [Meme] Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campino Buying Elections Since 2010 | Techrights [22:27] DaemonFC https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/27/23184792/supreme-court-coral-ridge-splc-petition-denied-libel-law-actual-malice [22:27] TR Bot The Supreme Court says it wont consider rewriting defamation law... yet - The Verge [22:29] DaemonFC The Supreme Court is ruining the country and Biden's only response was to sign a bill giving them a massive expansion of round the clock security because people are mad enough to kill them. [22:30] TR News "A common tactic seems to be creating some kind of division between 'reckless populists' who advocate for things like abolishing carbon taxes that adversely affect working people and the 'sensible middle-class/elite' who accept the need for 'sacrifices' to save the planet." gemini://spool-five.com/gemlog/2022-06-27-re_Communism_Against_Earth.gmi [22:30] DaemonFC He's worthless. [22:34] Schestowitz-3 Dthe GOP would have don e the same [22:34] Schestowitz-3 the issue here is more profound [22:34] Schestowitz-3 like, how did JUSDGES like these become JUSTICES [22:34] Schestowitz-3 and why did they make such foolish judgments [22:34] Schestowitz-3 and then why are people up in arms literally? [22:34] Schestowitz-3 see SCOTUS [22:35] Schestowitz-3 it is enabling this sordid mess [22:35] Schestowitz-3 where like 50k die each year (maybe more) from gun violence [22:35] Schestowitz-3 nos suicide by gun [22:35] Schestowitz-3 *not [22:35] Schestowitz-3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate [22:35] TR Bot List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia [22:36] Schestowitz-3 https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/how-countries-like-the-uk-have-quelled-gun-violence [22:36] TR Bot Other countries' gun violence solutions [22:36] Schestowitz-3 LOLA [22:36] Schestowitz-3 120.5 guns per 100 citizens [22:36] Schestowitz-3 more guns than citizens [22:36] Schestowitz-3 inc. babies [22:36] DaemonFC I found mom a VHS system at the Salvation Army for $1.99 a few years ago. I still use them. [22:37] Schestowitz-3 next in the list is serbia [22:37] Schestowitz-3 38 guns per 100 [22:37] DaemonFC I have a stockpile of blank tapes that still work or haven't even been opened.e [22:37] Schestowitz-3 UK 2.8 per 100 [22:37] DaemonFC The whole point of DTV was to take away your ability to record over the air TV. [22:38] DaemonFC It's still legal if they don't "restrict" it, but even in Windows 7's DVR program (assuming lots of DVRs?) they send a signal that says "no recording allowed" and bypassing that is an offense. [22:38] DaemonFC But since the signal gets lost if you use a digital to analog converter and run it into a VCR that doesn't understand what it is anyway, it's easy to bypass. [22:38] mole besides, almost the entire multimedia software-stack is technical rubbish [22:39] DaemonFC I hate DTV. [22:39] DaemonFC It's either really good signal, or nothing. [22:39] mole analog is completely shutdown [22:39] DaemonFC A car goes by and it completely goes out for several seconds and then comes back. [22:39] TR News "The next GNU Hackers' Meeting will take place in zmir, Turkey, in October 2022. Please see the event web page at https://gnu.org/ghm/2022 ." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10201 [22:39] TR Bot GNU Hackers' Meeting 2022 in zmir, Turkey GNU Project Free Software Foundation (FSF) [22:39] TR Bot GNU Hackers Meetings - News: GHM 2022 confirmed [Savannah] [22:40] DaemonFC Analog, there was a bit of snow. The snow got worse the further the station was from you. Eventually, no reception. [22:40] DaemonFC But partial reception is still intelligible most of the time. [22:40] mole the entire software-stack is crap, all of it [22:40] DaemonFC They ruin everything. [22:40] DaemonFC Stuffing it with DRM and patents. 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Read more [22:41] TR Bot The Faster The Switch, The Cheaper Bit Flits [22:41] DaemonFC They want to free up "spectrum" for T-Mobile so they can spy on your phones. [22:41] mole various de/encoders, de-modulators, tuner drivers, the opengl stack, hdmi, the media players, it's all crap [22:41] mole opensource or not [22:41] Schestowitz-3 https://tuxphones.com/mnt-pocketreform-open-hardware-linux-pda-keyboard-arm/ [22:41] TR Bot The PocketReform is a made-in-Berlin Linux handheld [22:42] matey https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/how-countries-like-the-uk-have-quelled-gun-violenc <- while starving their people and also quelling kitchen knife sales [22:42] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/how-countries-like-the-uk-have-quelled-gun-violenc ) [22:42] TR News GNOME Introductory Post https://kyteinsky.github.io/p/gnome-introductory-post/ Source: kyteinsky [22:42] TR Bot GNOME Introductory Post [22:42] TR News The Faster The Switch, The Cheaper Bit Flits https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/06/27/the-faster-the-switch-the-cheaper-bit-flits/ Source: nextplatform [22:43] matey 120.5 guns per 100 citizens <- hard to say if thats wasteful or conservative [22:43] DaemonFC https://abc7chicago.com/returns-unwanted-items-stores-target/11997133/?ex_cid=TA_WLS_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook [22:43] TR Bot Keep your returns: Target, Walmart, Gap, American Eagle stores weigh paying you not to bring back unwanted items - ABC7 Chicago [22:43] DaemonFC Well, the problem is that all of the far-right nuts have them. [22:43] Schestowitz-3 matey: men have two hands [22:43] DaemonFC So now everyone needs them., [22:43] Schestowitz-3 women have two hands [22:43] Schestowitz-3 babies can carry ammo [22:44] DaemonFC Wait until the far-right nuts are emboldened by the court into just showing up at abortion clinics in Illinois and shooting people. [22:44] DaemonFC You need to shoot them first, right? [22:44] DaemonFC Should have thought about that. [22:44] matey babies can carry ammo <- they probably shouldnt, unless its rohs ammo, which im pretty sure doesnt exist [22:45] Schestowitz-3 when the alien invades [22:45] Schestowitz-3 momma holds two guns [22:45] Schestowitz-3 daddy holds two guns [22:45] Schestowitz-3 firing away like rambo [22:45] Schestowitz-3 while baby holds the machine gun round [22:45] Schestowitz-3 that';s USA [22:45] Schestowitz-3 maybe there should be a movie like this [22:45] DaemonFC https://www.thestreet.com/investing/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-having-tough-time-in-court [22:45] TR Bot CEO Elon Musk Having Tough Time in Court - TheStreet [22:45] Schestowitz-3 the nation with more guns than people [22:45] matey youre banking on the continued stability of the area where you live, ro [22:45] DaemonFC More than 500 workers at one factory. [22:45] matey roy [22:45] DaemonFC Yeah, there's a healthy company. [22:46] matey if you find yourself in a civil war, youll be glad you have weapons [22:46] matey but youre banking on that being a silly concept [22:46] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, Don't worry, everyone in California is a bunch of pussies who are afraid of guns. [22:46] matey these days, its really not [22:46] DaemonFC So they just remove them from movies these days and act like they don't exist. [22:46] matey now think about ukraine [22:46] matey really, just shut the fuck up for two seconds, and think about ukraine [22:46] Schestowitz-3 tanks are gun resistant [22:47] DaemonFC I had one pointed at me, Roy. [22:47] matey do you really think theyre better off with fewer guns? or more [22:47] Schestowitz-3 yoiu need better weapons [22:47] DaemonFC By a criminal. [22:47] DaemonFC Think he had a FOID card? [22:47] DaemonFC A CCL maybe? [22:47] TR News As the meeting of the Administrative Council approaches the Mafia brings out the lies and makes a happy face, helped by lobbyists and patent maximalists that pursue an illegal agenda and deliberate violations of the European Patent Convention http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/epo-faking-popularity/ [22:47] TR Bot EPO Management Glorifies Illegal Agenda and Violations of the European Patent Convention (EPC) to Impress the Administrative Council | Techrights [22:47] matey so youre saying that guns arent useful in the russian invasion [22:47] TR News Ever wondered how criminals like Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos could seize and retain power at the EPO? They know exactly what theyre doing and theres nothing stopping them http://techrights.org/2022/06/27/meme-benoit-battistelli-and-antonio-campino-buying-elections-since-2010/ [22:47] TR Bot [Meme] Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campino Buying Elections Since 2010 | Techrights [22:47] matey theyre not useful to the ukrainians [22:47] matey youre really saying that [22:47] Schestowitz-3 matey: depends on the logitics [22:48] Schestowitz-3 many wars these days happen int he air [22:48] matey yes ive seen a lot of russian tanks flying around lately [22:48] matey only on youtube [22:48] Schestowitz-3 they are destroyed not by bullets [22:48] Schestowitz-3 but things like rpgs [22:48] Schestowitz-3 and air-to-surface [22:49] matey you raise missing the point to an artform [22:49] matey on a routine basis [22:49] matey i swear its what your phd is in [22:49] matey was your thesis on missing the point? [22:49] matey or changing the subject [22:49] Schestowitz-3 guerrilla warfare works on ground confrontation [22:50] Schestowitz-3 otherwise you need special weapons [22:50] Schestowitz-3 ukraine already gets thos [22:50] matey a LOT of vietnam was air based [22:50] Schestowitz-3 that's why they take down battalions [22:50] Schestowitz-3 matey: yes,a dn US killed millions [22:50] matey and yet with all that air support [22:50] Schestowitz-3 lostt 60,000 on the ground [22:50] matey they couldnt "win" [22:51] Schestowitz-3 they kiiled a lot of people [22:51] Schestowitz-3 that's what war does [22:51] Schestowitz-3 no side "wins" [22:51] Schestowitz-3 the US ran away [22:51] Schestowitz-3 tired of killing millions overe nothing [22:51] Schestowitz-3 same in korea [22:51] Schestowitz-3 they called it a draw [22:51] Schestowitz-3 and left with dmz [22:51] Schestowitz-3 iraq [22:51] Schestowitz-3 they just leave a mess behind, leave [22:51] Schestowitz-3 they lost in afghanistan [22:51] Schestowitz-3 taliban won after 20 years [22:52] Schestowitz-3 bbl [22:53] matey figuring out why people fight is probably a better strategy than gun control [22:53] matey since the cartels will always have guns [22:53] matey the police will always have guns [22:54] matey the armed forces will always have guns [22:54] matey but the people who need them most dont always [22:54] matey you arent really talking about getting rid of gun violence [22:54] matey youre only talking about keeping one group of people disarmed [22:54] matey while everyone else can shoot them [22:55] matey and you want to talk about "logistics" [22:56] matey the people who cause the most gun deaths have access to weapons [22:56] matey the state, the armed forces, the police [22:57] matey the state causes the most gun deaths by far [22:57] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, The Bear Sterns of Bitcoin is going under. [22:57] matey all over the world [22:57] matey if the civilians had guns, they wouldnt need the state [22:57] DaemonFC Three Arrows Capital has failed to pay a $700 million dollar loan that its creditors demanded because they "invested" it in crypto and don't have the money now. [22:57] matey and the number of wars would go down [22:57] matey and with that, the number of gun deaths would go down [22:57] matey the amount of poverty would go down [22:58] matey the amount of injustice would go down [22:58] matey you put the power in the hands of the state-- you get either stalinism [22:58] matey hitlerism [22:58] matey or some lighter form of one of those [22:58] matey if the native americans had been properly armed [22:58] matey there might be more of them alive today [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [22:59] matey the history of the british state is of conquor, enslavement, exploitation ● Jun 27 [23:00] matey you want to make england more like india was under the crown [23:00] matey weird flex but ok [23:00] matey even after you pass all the stupid laws [23:00] matey implement all the dumbest ideas [23:01] matey brits will ultimately take guns for themselves and distribute them as needed, in the long run [23:01] DaemonFC https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/reasons-switch-youtube-to-dtube/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1656218443 [23:01] TR Bot 8 Reasons to Switch From YouTube to DTube [23:01] matey the whole gun control idea was a farce [23:01] DaemonFC DTube? [23:01] matey but the kitchen knife control idea is even more laughable [23:01] matey next theyll be stationing guards around forests to control pointed sticks [23:02] DaemonFC I think people are getting tired of GulagTube and will be looking at alternatives that are difficult to censor. [23:02] matey the left and the right dont have worlds full of common ground [23:02] matey they agree on guns [23:03] matey only the upper class fake left thinks the state should have a monopoly [23:03] matey all power to the bureaucracy [23:03] DaemonFC Pretty much the only thing the mister goolags of the world have done is contribute to making things that were already pretty nasty so nasty that soon people won't even have a choice except to leave. [23:03] matey thats stalinism, or hitlerism, but the upper class fake left doesnt know shit anyway [23:04] matey their arguments are circular, they have no first-hand experience to learn from [23:04] matey they cite books they wrote themselves based on similar books saying similar crap based on similar lack of experience and self-serving massaging of history [23:05] matey their world is a world of upper class twits [23:05] matey sometimes very meagre upper class bullshit [23:05] matey but theyre upper class twits all the same [23:06] matey ultimately as clueless as the lowest rungs of the royal family [23:06] matey without the slightest inkling of how the world works-- theyve never even visited [23:06] matey they wouldnt know what they saw [23:07] matey as isolated as any disney princess-- if not moreso [23:07] matey and about as realistic [23:07] matey but they sure do have answers [23:07] DaemonFC https://www.thestreet.com/investing/burger-king-impossible-mcdonalds-mcplant [23:07] TR Bot King's New Sandwich Copies a McDonald's Failure (And a Classic) - TheStreet [23:07] matey based on pure crap [23:07] DaemonFC "While both McPlant and Impossible Whopper contain vegetarian ingredients, neither is handled in a way that a true vegetarian would actually consider eating either one. " [23:08] DaemonFC "And, that's the second problem. Neither McPlant nor Impossible Whopper offers a significant health advantage over their meat-based counterparts. It's more about the concept of the burger being plant-based than it actually being a healthy choice." [23:08] DaemonFC Bill's Burgers are in trouble. [23:08] matey i think we even get to the part of politics where [23:08] DaemonFC They cost more, they're not good, and they have just as much saturated fat and cholesterol and three times the sodium as a regular Whopper. [23:08] matey jim zemlin and roy schestowitz have nothing to argue about [23:09] matey upper class twit solutions to an upper class twit view of the world [23:09] DaemonFC Burger King should quit chasing off their core customers. [23:09] matey maybe zemlin is more down to earth than that [23:09] DaemonFC In the 1990s, they used to put cigarette ashtrays on every table. [23:09] DaemonFC People who want health food are not going to a place that sells burgers and fries. [23:10] matey i kind of doubt it. i think he wears a suit and tie to bed "itll get wrinkled!" "thats what cleaners are for" [23:10] DaemonFC Schestowitz-3, I finally went on a statin drug. [23:11] DaemonFC The doctor tried to put me on double the amount I probably needed to be on until I argued that the minimum dose was almost equally effective with about half the chances of severe or major side effects. [23:11] DaemonFC The doctors don't even read the NIH studies. [23:11] DaemonFC The 5 mg dose of Crestor reduced LDL-C by 45% on average. That's a very powerful drug, and it does go up to 40 mg, however the 10 mg dose only reduces LDL-C by about 48%. [23:12] DaemonFC So you double the dose and it does increase the odds of side effects, but doesn't have much of an effect on cholesterol. [23:12] DaemonFC This is telling me that most of the dosages available with Crestor (maybe other statins too) are unnecessary and the risk outweighs the benefit in like 95% of patients. [23:13] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/27/no-strategic-value "Ukraine reports at least 50 injured, 13 dead following Russian missile strike on Kremenchuk shopping mall" [23:13] TR Bot NO TITLE [23:13] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/27/a78116 [23:13] TR Bot Russian Demand Spikes for Pirated Microsoft Windows Kommersant - The Moscow Times [23:13] DaemonFC Yes, Russia is a terrorist state. [23:13] DaemonFC A shopping mall is not a legitimate military target. [23:13] matey on march 9 the russian military launched a missile at ukraine, which the ukranians shot down [23:14] matey it contained cluster bombs [23:14] matey i dont know what kind [23:14] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1541178759654653960 [23:14] matey cluster bombs are frowned on if not outright banned [23:14] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Tonight on state TV, Andrey Gurulyov, State Duma deputy, former deputy commander of Russia's southern military district, discussed the size of the Suwaki corridor that would satisfy Russia, the potential confrontation with NATO & other items that might be on the Kremlin's menu."|nitter [23:14] DaemonFC Oh, didn't Russia sign that anti-cluster bomb treaty that they criticized the US for not signing? [23:14] DaemonFC Obviously that did a lot of good. [23:14] matey because they sort of turn into de facto landmines and kids blow themselves up after the war is over [23:14] XRevan86 DaemonFC: It didn't, yes. [23:15] matey hopefully this is propaganda and the missile didnt have cluster bombs [23:15] matey but you know [23:15] matey war is fugly as sin [23:15] matey and people treat international law as a guideline at best [23:16] matey when they dont use it as toilet paper [23:16] matey XRevans take on things is always welcome imo [23:16] XRevan86 DaemonFC: The thing is that the Ministry of War even denies hitting a building in Kyiv, claims air defence shot a missile down and it hit the building instead of the factory Artem. [23:16] matey because if he bullshits, i cant tell [23:17] matey and he seems not to [23:17] DaemonFC Yeah, well, Putin is very credible. I'm sure we can trust that. [23:17] DaemonFC :) [23:17] mole today they said, Russia was bancrupt, because Russia wanted to comply with obligations yet was not permitted transactions because sanctions [23:17] XRevan86 Even though the building is right next to the factory, and air defence doesn't just shoot missiles just as they reach the target in the city. [23:18] DaemonFC If we allow Russia to make debt payments, it encourages people to lend to them in the future. [23:18] DaemonFC If they don't know whether they will be paid back, they will go invest it some other way, even after the sanctions are gone. [23:18] XRevan86 When they hit the mall, I've no idea what the military goal even was. Was there one? [23:19] matey I've no idea what the military goal even was. Was there one? "blow shit up?" [23:19] matey cause confusion and unrest [23:19] XRevan86 matey: That's what comes to mind, yes. [23:20] matey if real strategic objectives are impossible [23:20] matey just go for shock and awe? [23:21] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/Shayan86/status/1541534086745018368 sigh [23:21] TR Bot Shayan Sardarizadeh (@Shayan86): "It's day 124 of Ukraine war. Dmitry Polyanskiy, a member of the Russian mission to the UN, says the Kremenchuk shopping centre attack is a "Bucha-style Ukrainian provocation". There's a mountain of evidence that proves beyond doubt civilian killings in Bucha by Russian forces."|nitter [23:21] mole did russian military confirm it was them who did it? [23:23] matey It's day 97 of war in Ukraine. Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene and right-wing user Ian Miles Cheong claimed the Pride flag had been altered to incorporate the colours of the Ukrainian flag. But the flag is fake and was created as a joke, via @knowyourmeme. [23:23] matey heh [23:23] XRevan86 mole: No real comment yet. [23:23] XRevan86 But I can guarantee they won't take responsibility. [23:23] matey Marjorie Taylor Greene is a name ive never heard associated with anything but punch-yourself level idiocy [23:24] XRevan86 * https://nitter.net/Shayan86/status/1541534086745018368#m oops, left out the #m [23:24] TR Bot Shayan Sardarizadeh (@Shayan86): "It's day 124 of Ukraine war. Dmitry Polyanskiy, a member of the Russian mission to the UN, says the Kremenchuk shopping centre attack is a "Bucha-style Ukrainian provocation". There's a mountain of evidence that proves beyond doubt civilian killings in Bucha by Russian forces."|nitter [23:25] matey Lazy Russians already lying and calling their latest war crime a false flag attack. Same Russian Empire playbook every single time [23:25] mole "climate action", among the most plausible explanations [23:25] matey the whole thing start with russia using false flag bs as a reason to go to Not-War [23:26] mole to orchestrate a media spectacle [23:26] matey when they say false flag they might as well say "No U" [23:26] mole with german internal-politics and their propaganda spoutings, this fits into as a minor missing puzzle piece [23:27] mole because, some washington mouthpieces in german politics, are struggling, and welcome every opportunity to prepetuate insane propaganda lies [23:27] XRevan86 I wonder who even believes them. Statistically speaking, they should've fscked up at least once, but they took responsility for literally nothing, so it should raise some eye-brows even for the most ignorant and nave. [23:28] matey it should raise some eye-brows even for the most ignorant and nave. <- maybe they have botox [23:28] matey "it sank?" [23:29] MinceR sadly, there are many ruscists, they probably believe every word of orcish state propaganda [23:29] MinceR even the words that contradict each other [23:29] mole gas storage doesn't re-fill as planned for next winter-season, in germany, because russia they say [23:30] mole in parallel, insane subsidies into "renewable" scam (trillion cash something), this is what they want to distract from, in germany [23:30] mole because, some wind mills were supposed to provide german industry with energy, because evil russians [23:31] mole total nonsense; nonetheless, this washington-mouthpiece apparatus got ambitions here, and if some truth was dripping into public [23:31] matey there are many ruscists, they probably believe every word of orcish state propaganda <- heres another theory: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_uQCNjIHeqU [23:31] TR Bot Do most Russians really support the "special operation"? - Invidious [23:31] mole a gigantic bubble would bust [23:31] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent [23:31] TR Bot Manufacturing Consent - Wikipedia [23:32] matey by no means am i suggesting ruscists dont exist [23:32] matey the trick is counting them [23:32] mole hence, every opportunity to deflect onto Vladimirowitsch the Evil is utilized, to perpetuate some "anti fossil" agenda, which by coincidence too benefits USA with lower energy prices [23:32] matey try counting the number of people that think systemd is a great idea [23:33] matey the fanboys used to say most poeple dont care what init system they had [23:33] matey what they meant was, only people who wanted systemd had opinions that mattered [23:34] matey even if systemd was reliable and technologically superior, i would have rejected it on various grounds http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/different-circumstances/ [23:34] TR Bot I Would Have Supported the Coup (Under Very Different Circumstances) | Techrights [23:34] matey its pure arseholeware [23:34] matey i dont just mean the devs are arseholes-- although they are [23:35] MinceR 28 003124 < matey> there are many ruscists, they probably believe every word of orcish state propaganda <- heres another theory: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_uQCNjIHeqU [23:35] MinceR there are many ruscists outside orcland [23:35] MinceR in hungary, for example [23:35] matey arseholeware is more about the software itself than just the devs [23:35] matey if software were capable of being a douchebag [23:35] MinceR also in the usa [23:35] XRevan86 matey: "and he seems not to" <- :) [23:35] matey systemd would be one of the ultimately douchebags [23:36] matey /me still thinks lennart will be outed as a nazi at some point [23:37] matey at least a soup nazi [23:37] matey NO SHUTDOWN FOR YOU! [23:37] MinceR or a taco nazi [23:37] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5QLpj3onK0 [23:37] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=F5QLpj3onK0 [23:37] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=F5QLpj3onK0 ) [23:39] matey there are many ruscists outside orcland in hungary, for example also in the usa [23:39] matey imo thats a different category [23:39] matey its not unfair to say theyre ruscists [23:39] MinceR in what way? [23:39] matey but really theyre opportunists who see something to gain from this [23:39] matey i mean [23:39] MinceR hungary's number one ruscist, viktor orban, is lobbying for vladolf in the EU [23:40] matey its the difference between joining a church because you believe in something [23:40] matey and joining a church to get laid [23:40] MinceR there's no excuse for being a ruscist in the same way as there's no excuse for being a nazi [23:40] matey i agree [23:40] matey but the lack of excuse doesnt change the fact that the explanation is of a different nature [23:41] matey even if its just as appalling and inexcusable [23:41] matey the opportunist is not a believer [23:41] matey if youre counting people who believe, the opportunists are different [23:41] matey opportunists arent suckered into think its the right thing [23:42] matey they know its not-- and dont give a fuck [23:42] matey in some ways its even more appalling [23:42] matey but i still give it its own category when im trying to understand why people are idiots [23:43] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/27/lake-county-il-health-department-doctors-should-probably-be-avoided-in-my-experience/ [23:43] TR Bot Lake County, IL Health Department doctors should probably be avoided, in my experience. BaronHK's Rants [23:43] MinceR people are idiots because our society favors the breeding of idiots the most [23:43] DaemonFC It seems a lot of doctors out there either want to do nothing or two times as much as they should. [23:43] MinceR and it has been that way for a long time [23:43] matey i dont think its a genetic thing (primarily) [23:43] MinceR sure, the state also does what it can to dumb people down [23:44] matey we do live in a society that conditions people to be cunts [23:44] MinceR and so do the corporations [23:44] DaemonFC MinceR, Schestowitz-3 said it's better to turn healthcare over to the state. [23:44] DaemonFC Well, that's what the Lake County Health Department is. The state. [23:44] matey no argument there [23:44] MinceR we live in a society that gives all the power to sociopaths and idolizes evil for evil's sake [23:44] MinceR and then we're wondering why most people are evil [23:44] matey yep [23:44] DaemonFC Maybe he can read that and tell me why I should go see the state instead of a private doctor that knows what the hell she's doing and actually wants to help. [23:44] matey yep, except to me its no mystery [23:45] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [23:45] matey society is broken [23:45] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@mbdp3x2m46v36.irc) has joined #techrights [23:46] matey and most people want to fix it a few molecules at a time, while the corruption happens on a much broader level [23:46] matey people want to create devuan while systemd infects the kernel [23:46] DaemonFC They call high blood pressure the silent killer. [23:46] DaemonFC Because most people just get used to it, and ignore it. [23:46] matey and devuan needs most of a decade to even get started on what they promised [23:46] DaemonFC It does its damage in such a sneaky way that it takes years, usually. [23:46] DaemonFC And by that time you're on dialysis or stroking out. [23:47] DaemonFC Or dead. [23:47] MinceR DaemonFC: i suspect that state healthcare is not that broken in all countries [23:47] matey /me wishes roy was a real investigator, who could figure out just what took them so fucking long [23:47] DaemonFC They don't like to start people in their 30s out on blood pressure meds. [23:47] MinceR i suspect devuan isn't going anywhere [23:47] matey im not interested enough to devote all my time to that, and i dont blame him for not being either [23:47] DaemonFC My ex had a stroke from hypertensive crisis when he was 35. [23:47] DaemonFC He's not even fat! [23:47] matey i suspect devuan isn't going anywhere <- only because thats what its always done [23:47] matey they thought they were a coup [23:48] DaemonFC If you need the meds, you need the meds. [23:48] matey they were more of a picket line [23:48] matey they turn away most talent and contributions [23:48] matey preferring to pin medals on themselves for the war in vietnam, which they lost [23:49] matey fsmithred isnt so bad [23:49] matey i met him in person [23:49] matey hes in charge of devuan live [23:49] matey but ill tell you where he and i will never agree [23:49] matey he sides with the very worst of them [23:49] matey and that makes him useless even if skills wise and [23:50] matey hes got plenty of integrity as long as you dont surround him with horrible people [23:50] matey if you do, he will defend them to the bitter end [23:50] matey he prefers to be on the wrong side of history [23:50] matey other than that i think he means well [23:51] matey hes also the best person theyve got [23:51] matey everyone else is worse than that [23:51] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/23/awkward-convos-kids/ [23:51] TR Bot Having Awkward Conversations Is Just Part Of Being A Parent (25 Tweets) [23:52] matey devuan doesnt really care about users more than the fsf [23:52] matey the fsf cares about the fsdg and users can pound sand [23:52] matey devuan cares about systemd, but cant do much about it-- and users can kiss their arse [23:53] matey at the very least, i dont think the queue is getting longer [23:53] MinceR at least the people maintaining devuan use devuan [23:54] matey sur [23:54] matey thats because they dont know how anything else works [23:54] MinceR no, that's because they maintain it for themselves [23:54] matey too bad, if they did devuan might be farther along by now [23:54] matey no, that's because they maintain it for themselves <- yeah [23:55] matey but tbh [23:55] matey plenty of people treat themselves better than that [23:55] MinceR indeed [23:56] matey trying to salvage debian was a brilliant idea [23:56] matey after 5 years, certainly 7 [23:56] matey the writing was on the wall [23:56] matey devuan is a better name than "sunk cost fallacy"