●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 ●● ● Jul 27 [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] matey cc0, by default, releases a work into the public domain [00:01] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [00:01] matey where thats not possible (finland for example) it offers every right (to the user) that public domain offers, unless that isnt possible [00:01] matey but only regarding copyright [00:01] matey cc0 explicitly mentions that patent rights are NOT affected [00:01] matey it would be better off removing that part, for use as a free software license [00:02] matey despite this, the fsf decided it was a gpl-compatible free software license [00:02] matey so if you have cc0 licensed code [00:02] matey you can add it to a gpl program [00:03] matey the problem, if any, is the patent thing [00:03] matey explicitly NOT affecting patent rights, i guess, is worse than simply not mentioning them at all [00:03] matey because most gpl-compatible free licenses say nothing about this, and thats ok [00:04] matey no one complains-- the fsf PREFERS licenses that explicitly WAIVE patent rights (like apache 2) [00:04] matey but that is not a requirement [00:04] matey osi rejected cc0 for this issue [00:04] matey now fedora does [00:05] matey i was pretty pissed, too. if osi hadnt rejected it, more people would probably use it [00:05] matey fedora would probably not reject it now [00:05] matey if it was used more, some test in court may have confirmed what we hoped-- that it was a good free software license [00:05] matey i bet that day never comes now [00:06] matey if youd asked me a year ago, that day would probably still never come [00:06] matey also cc sucks now, but cc0 is okay [00:07] matey cc = the org | cc0 = one of their licenses [00:07] matey i dislike the org [00:07] matey you could argue that cc0 promotes the org, but thats not too important if the license is that useful [00:08] matey i would say cc0 never got its legs [00:08] matey its championed by a niche of people, and thats the most love it will ever get [00:08] matey im one of those people [00:08] matey there arent too many of us [00:09] britney interesting, ok [00:11] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:12] matey but im considering giving up my promotion of cc0 [00:13] matey or my reliance on it [00:13] schestowitz[TR2] the borg [00:13] britney do you have any cc0 content? [00:13] matey loads [00:14] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [00:14] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [00:14] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [00:14] matey the fsf itself says theres no point in using copyleft on "300 lines or fewer" of code. [00:14] matey so for snippets of code, at least, i use cc0 [00:14] matey the fsf itself says theres no point in using copyleft on "300 lines or fewer" of code. <- check their faq [00:15] matey since cc0 is gpl compatible, and also compatible with other licenses [00:15] matey you can put code from there in all kinds of programs [00:15] matey thats the idea [00:15] matey but if enough people are wary of it-- it doesnt serve the intended purpose in practice [00:16] schestowitz[TR2] creativecommons.borg [00:18] matey creativecommons.borkborkborkborkbork [00:18] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses#0-clause_license_(%22BSD_Zero_Clause_License%22) [00:18] TR Bot BSD licenses - Wikipedia [00:18] schestowitz[TR2] i was gonna say [00:18] schestowitz[TR2] i also checked b.org [00:18] matey "The ISC license is functionally equivalent, and endorsed by the OpenBSD project as a license template for new contributions." [00:19] schestowitz[TR2] it's for sale [00:19] schestowitz[TR2] doomain name gold rush [00:20] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISC_license [00:20] TR Bot ISC license - Wikipedia [00:20] britney I like to write stories and I used to put them online under a creative commons license but I don't remember which one [00:20] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISC_license#OpenBSD_license [00:20] TR Bot ISC license - Wikipedia [00:21] matey gnu doesnt like the isc license, because they worry that it could prohibit modified versions [00:22] matey s/gnu/fsf/ [00:22] matey imo the fsf is probably as (unnecessarily) paranoid about the isc license as osi was about cc0 [00:23] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:24] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:25] britney if fedora is banning cc0 its probably because lawyers are involved [00:25] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:25] schestowitz[TR2] fontana at icbm [00:26] schestowitz[TR2] Reaffirming what I said about ICBM nuking Fedora (what's the point when there's CentOS 'streams'... a pile of steam) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/YXENHLWNVIAOYQQ746KZYRIXYQW6E2FA/ [00:26] TR Bot Some spins/labs to be dropped from F37 - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists [00:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:26] britney lawyers can make anyone paranoid [00:26] matey yeah [00:26] matey whats your title in the legal profession, if you dont mind me asking [00:26] britney paralegal [00:26] matey that was my guess [00:26] britney lol [00:27] matey In January 2012 the proposal of creating a BSD license alternative to the GPL licensed BusyBox project drew harsh criticism from Matthew Garrett for taking away the only relevant tool for copyright enforcement of the Software Freedom Conservancy group.[17] [00:27] matey Rob Landley, who had started the BusyBox-based lawsuits, responded that this was intentional, explaining that the lawsuits had not benefited the project but that they had led to corporate avoidance, expressing a desire to stop the lawsuits "in whatever way I see fit" [00:27] matey now i have a question for mjg [00:28] matey maybe a few [00:28] matey (this is review btw, ive seen this before) [00:28] matey ive heard of 0-clause bsd and ive heard of toybox and im familiar with the criticism of it [00:28] matey i didnt know the first was related to the other two however [00:29] matey 0-clause bsd actually comes FROM toybox [00:29] matey and its author [00:29] britney is a 0-clause bsd super permissive or super unpermissive? [00:29] matey and openbsd doesnt actually use it-- they use isc [00:29] matey SUPER permissive [00:29] matey if you want copyleft, i still recommend gpl3 or agpl [00:30] matey this is for a cc0 alternative. [00:30] matey super-permissive [00:30] britney I'd probably use some form of BSD or ISC license if I wrote code [00:30] matey 0-clause is a small part of the bsd license [00:30] matey isc is what openbsd uses [00:31] matey its also obviously what isc typically uses, unless thats changed [00:31] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [00:31] britney is cc0 super permissive too? [00:31] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [00:32] matey yes, both cc0 and 0-clause are super permissive [00:32] TR News New Gemini All-Time Record and the New CMS | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/gemini-all-time-record/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/26/gemini-all-time-record/ [00:32] TR Bot New Gemini All-Time Record and the New CMS | Techrights [00:32] matey cc0 is the most super permissive thing the fsf lists as gpl-compatible [00:32] schestowitz[TR2] hi, rianne_ [00:32] britney good to know [00:33] britney I wonder what Cory Doctrow uses for his books [00:33] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [00:33] matey it actually dedicates your work to the public domain, and where thats not possible, still tries to do the equivalent [00:33] matey in finland you cannot put works into the public domain without dying first. [00:33] matey doctor actually released one book as cc0 [00:33] rianne_ Hello [00:33] matey but mostly he uses some cc license [00:33] schestowitz[TR2] rianne_: did you private-message me earlier in IRC? [00:33] matey originally his first book had a no-derivs clause [00:33] schestowitz[TR2] I cannot see anything in the IRC clients [00:34] rianne_ yes, i did. [00:34] matey but later he re-released it to relax that [00:34] schestowitz[TR2] to which username? [00:34] britney matey, that was nice of him [00:34] matey with information doesnt want to be free, he went less free [00:34] matey not to make a point-- doctorows licensing choices have always been based on what level of understanding he can come to with his publishers [00:35] matey and information doesnt want to be free was under a different publisher, so he couldnt do much. [00:35] rianne_ schestowitz_log [00:35] matey lessig for his books normally hasnt used a free culture license-- but rather something like nc or nc-nd, both are non-free by free culture standards [00:35] schestowitz[TR2] weird, it sdoesn't show any private messages [00:36] matey however code 2.0 he released under a free culture license [00:36] schestowitz[TR2] try again [00:36] schestowitz[TR2] see if I get the message [00:36] matey among the cc licenses, free culture licenses include: cc0, cc-by, cc-by-sa [00:36] schestowitz[TR2] to "schestowitz_log" [00:36] matey the last of which is copyleft [00:37] rianne_ sorry, #tuxmachines [00:37] schestowitz[TR2] ah, now it makes sense [00:37] schestowitz[TR2] that's why I didn't see it [00:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:39] matey if mjg gets here, im not going to ask him to change his position on toybox-- i wouldnt expect anyone from fsf/sfc/red hat/free software to do that. [00:40] matey my questions are adjacent to that issue, but wouldnt change anything about his stance on it. [00:40] matey it would be pretty daft to think anyone who sees the problem with what toybox did would change their stance on it [00:41] matey i expect stallman (real one or new one) would be against what toybox did [00:41] matey and anything stallman and mjg agree on, isnt likely to change [00:42] TR News "There are 2611 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 2024 of them." =Lupa [00:42] TR News Building out a SOC gemini://nnix.com/gemlog/30.gmi "I wrote this out for a HARO request, and figured it was worth posting the whole thing, because this stuff is getting done poorly everywhere!" [00:43] TR News "Concerningly, a number of participants tested positive for coronavirus after the conference. I tested negatively, and Im praying that the others recover swiftly." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1658871722 [00:44] matey /me pings ariadne and leah just for fun (not really, if either of them see this ill ask them too) [00:45] Ariadne ask me what [00:45] matey hi-- toybox [00:45] Ariadne i dont like toybox [00:45] Ariadne the code is crap [00:45] matey thats what i assumed [00:45] matey i assumed you didnt like it [00:45] matey but my question is about the license [00:45] matey toybox uses the 0 clause bsd [00:45] matey langley is the author of it [00:45] Ariadne on landleys talk about post-copyleft i agree [00:46] matey my question is [00:46] matey due to your feelings about langley himself, or toybox, or whatever regarding those [00:46] matey do you have any reservations about (other) code licensed under 0-clause bsd itself [00:46] Ariadne due to my feelings about what [00:46] Ariadne i use ISC license [00:46] Ariadne its the same thing basically [00:46] Ariadne well [00:47] matey do you have any feelings about 0-clause bsd at all? langley himself is the author [00:47] matey im going to ask mjg and leah too if they repond [00:47] Ariadne lately i have been thinking about ISC/AGPL dual licensing mostly to troll lawyers [00:47] matey yeah i like agpl [00:47] Ariadne i like 0BSD [00:47] matey im considering 0-clause bsd as a cc0 alternative. [00:47] Ariadne for what it is, its a fine license [00:47] matey isc really isnt a cc0 alternative. 0clause bsd is [00:48] matey ok, cheers [00:48] matey that answers my question. if you have other comments im interested, but if youre busy and just trying to answer the question, that does it [00:48] matey and youre usually pretty busy :) [00:49] schestowitz[TR2] Ariadne: did you get the beer mon ey I sent? [00:49] Ariadne i use ISC for historical reasons [00:49] matey openbsd uses it too [00:50] Ariadne schestowitz[TR2]: yes [00:50] TR News The custom-made content management system (CMS) has taken top priority; weve meanwhile reached a record number of people and sent a record number of pages over Gemini (today) http://techrights.org/2022/07/26/gemini-all-time-record/ [00:50] TR Bot New Gemini All-Time Record and the New CMS | Techrights [00:50] Ariadne i used it to pay for remote hands fees to upgrade stuff [00:50] schestowitz[TR2] excellent. we love alpine already. [00:51] matey britney: out of curiosity, how did you become interested in becoming a paralegal [00:51] schestowitz[TR2] gn [00:51] Ariadne i want to switch from wordpress [00:51] Ariadne at some point [00:51] matey turdpress [00:51] Ariadne webshit is not my forte though [00:52] britney matey, well its a bit of a long story. after my transition i had been discriminated against by the police so i sued them through the human rights tribunal and when i told people they said i should be a lawyer [00:53] britney being a lawyer is a long costly process but a paralegal can represent people in the human rights tribunal so i went that route [00:54] britney i wanted to be able to help other transgender people sue businesses/entities when they face discrimination too [00:54] matey the #1 feature of turdpress is it nearly killed off moveable tripe [00:55] matey i wanted to be able to help other transgender people sue businesses/entities when they face discrimination too <- awesome! [00:55] mjg59_ matey: I'm fine with 0-clause BSD, but in terms of permissive licenses I still prefer Apache 2.0 [00:55] matey ofc [00:55] matey the advantages of apache 2,0 are clear [00:56] matey im considering ditching cc0 [00:56] matey i realise you cant UN-cc0 something. that doesnt bother me at all [00:56] matey i also realise that 0-clause doesnt literally put anyting into the public domain [00:56] matey rather it (in as few bits as possible) achieves the "if this isnt legally possible" part of the cc0 payload [00:57] matey what do you think of this idea (yes im looking for your personal opinion, not legal advice) [00:57] matey one of the main reasons im asking you is that you disagreed with the APPLICATION of 0-clause on toybox [00:57] Ariadne apache 2.0 is good for practical reasons [00:57] Ariadne the lawyers have vetted the fuck out of it [00:58] matey i use cc0 for software and other works alike [00:58] Ariadne same reason why GPLv2 was attractive back in the day [00:58] matey i use gpl3 and agpl3 when i want to copyleft something substantial [00:58] matey but im looking to use 0-clause bsd instead of cc0 for trivial things [00:58] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [00:59] matey this is a big decision as ill probalby do it for years or longer [00:59] matey im mainly looking into what critics of toybox think of the license itself [00:59] mjg59_ matey: If your goal is to get as close to public domain as possible, 0-clause BSD seems fine ● Jul 27 [01:00] mjg59_ My problem wasn't with the license, it was that the reason they started the project was to prevent busybox GPL enforcement [01:00] matey mjg: and your feelings abuot what langley (also the author of the 0clausebsd itself) in no way affect your feelings about the license? [01:00] matey im not asking "do you have any bias" im asking about the conclusion you come to, which is easier. [01:00] mjg59_ Yeah I have no objection to the license [01:00] matey awesome [01:00] matey thats answers my question [01:01] matey im thinking about what red hat is doing regarding cc0 [01:01] matey and thinking maybe cc0 will never get its legs (Which seem obvious anyway, even moreso now) [01:01] matey i dont want to use a license that makes people go "EWWWWWW" even if its compatible [01:01] matey nor do i want to get caught up in fashion trends. im looking for marriage-worthy cc0 alternative [01:01] matey i think this is the one [01:02] matey the others dont do the same thing [01:02] matey they all do more [01:02] matey including isc, which is a great license [01:03] matey i still think if osi and karl fogel and given cc0 a fair shot and not erred on the side of paranoia [01:03] matey cc0 would be doing better and maybe red hat wouldnt care [01:03] matey but thats relevant in some other universe at best [01:04] phanes tangent -- id be just fine if busybox ceased to exist [01:04] matey phanes: but what would alpine use then [01:05] matey (i find busybox tedious) [01:05] matey (sort of a worst of both worlds solution) [01:05] matey (fucking use pdksh instead) [01:05] matey (i know it has other stuff too) [01:07] phanes matey, preferrably glibc + a full gnu toolchain [01:08] matey wow, a glibc fan [01:08] *phanes shrugs [01:08] phanes its not fun to build but its great to have built [01:08] matey whats so great about it (serious question) [01:08] phanes unless youre porting to a fridge [01:08] matey i mean im guessing that a design goal of alpine is to be VERY portable [01:09] matey and lighterweight [01:09] matey i dont think glibc can do that [01:09] matey which doesnt make it useless, but id be hardpressed to understand a move to glibc by alpine [01:10] matey "Toybox combines the most common Linux command line utilities together" stay classy, rob [01:10] matey "the most common Linux command line utilities" :p [01:11] matey like linux bash, linux screen, etc [01:11] matey you know, all those linux command line utilities that linux never created or wrote. [01:12] matey bsd doesnt call them unix because theyd get sued [01:12] matey so i can understand theyre OBLIGED to call those bsd utils [01:12] matey (they also wrote the code in them) [01:13] matey gnu wrote the code in the gnu programs [01:13] matey but linux... [01:13] matey hooray :P [01:13] matey stupid fucking linus [01:13] Ariadne i agree with phanes actually, it would be better if busybox stopped existing, but mostly because the code quality is bad [01:14] matey why not just use the stuff from openbsd, since its much more lightweight than glibc [01:14] matey im sure theres a good reason, just curious what it is [01:14] matey (i mean for alpine of course) [01:14] matey (as in compiled for alpine) [01:15] Ariadne i mean ports of BSD userspace arent new, dating all the way back to the 90s with embutils [01:15] matey and quality probably higher than busybox. but i dont know if its actually lightweight enough [01:15] Ariadne im not so sure :) [01:15] matey i dont know if it works with your glibc alternative [01:15] matey ohh [01:15] matey okay [01:16] Ariadne a lot of busybox code originated from BSD too :) [01:16] matey which which bsd [01:16] matey but which [01:16] Ariadne mostly NetBSD from 25 years ago :p [01:16] matey well no wonder then [01:16] matey im gonna assue openbsd is a step above THAT [01:16] Ariadne the busybox stuff has evolved too :p [01:17] matey but not much? [01:17] Ariadne toybox is better in that regard, since it is rewritten from scratch, but the author likes sizecoding [01:17] matey but toybox quality isnt great though [01:17] Ariadne none of the BSD derived userspaces have evolved much tbh [01:17] matey fair enough [01:17] Ariadne toybox quality is bad due to sizecoding [01:19] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:20] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:20] matey THE KIRK blessed the name zero clause bsd http://www.landley.net/toybox/0bsd-mckusick.txt [01:21] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [01:21] matey im not a huge freebsd fan, i am a kirk mckusick fan though [01:25] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [01:26] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [01:26] britney i like freebsd [01:27] phanes freebsd was a fun saga for me [01:28] phanes PCBSD was a cool transitory os too, it was like freebsd with training wheels [01:28] phanes gosh that was ages ago now, i think lilo was still around [01:29] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [01:34] matey i like freebsd <- id rather use freebsd than gnu/linux [01:35] britney phanes, now theres GhostBSD [01:35] phanes britney, i dont even know that one [01:36] phanes what are they all about [01:36] britney its freebsd with a preinstalled gui, running mate [01:37] phanes dog ruined a 400 dollar keyboard :/ [01:38] britney :O [01:38] schestowitz[TR2] keyboard ruins 400 dolalr dog [01:39] matey midnight and hardened both signed as projects, so fuck them forever [01:39] schestowitz[TR2] man bites dog, too [01:39] phanes it was one of those aluminum beasts from wasdkeyboards [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 27 [02:06] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [02:06] matey wow its goose [02:12] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:14] *matey has quit (connection closed) [02:14] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:14] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:16] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [02:17] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [02:17] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [02:17] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [02:20] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [02:21] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [02:21] *huggi has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [02:22] *huggi (sid80718@joseon/user/huggi) has joined #techrights [02:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [02:34] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:34] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [02:35] britney https://glenkealey.com/kp12.pdf [02:36] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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TotalIn: 14 MB TotalOut: 2.6 MB [03:09] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:10] IPFS QmTcjQcpQmc33H6tVYxaBQP4SYQnHTEnFzA1HJRmbELhh3 [03:10] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:14] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:15] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:16] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [03:21] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [03:33] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:46] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/out-of-prison-shkreli-plans-web3-drug-discovery-platform-backed-by-crypto/ [03:46] TR Bot Out of prison, Shkreli plans Web3 drug discovery platform backed by crypto | Ars Technica [03:48] *horseface has quit (Quit: People are trying to kill me for this. Please download it! https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6231271) [03:54] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [03:57] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [03:57] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [03:58] DaemonFC PC-BSD had the same problem FreeBSD did. No network drivers. [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 297.80 [03:59] DaemonFC But it did boot up. ● Jul 27 [04:01] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [04:03] *horseface_ (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [04:04] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:08] *horseface_ has quit (Quit: People are trying to kill me for this. Please download it! https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6231271) [04:11] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [04:26] britney DaemonFC, FreeBSD does have network drivers. Maybe not your network driver though. [04:26] *horseface has quit (Quit: People are trying to kill me for this. Please download it! https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6231271) [04:27] *matey (~matey@eq3snar22puje.irc) has joined #techrights [04:28] AdmFubar 9 out of 10 scammers prefer m$ products, including m$ https://www.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/microsoft-tops-brands-phishers-prefer [04:28] TR Bot Microsoft Tops Brands Phishers Prefer [04:31] phanes I learned a new shock word today. [04:31] AdmFubar https://www.pogowasright.org/police-are-using-newborn-genetic-screening-to-search-for-suspects-threatening-privacy-and-public-health/ [04:31] TR Bot Police Are Using Newborn Genetic Screening to Search for Suspects, Threatening Privacy and Public Health [04:31] matey thats hard to believe [04:32] matey dont keep us waiting [04:33] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/new-orleans-surveillance-facial-recognition [04:33] TR Bot Orleans rolls back facial recognition ban surveillance - Protocol [04:37] britney matey, https://i.imgur.com/OOWCGEq.png [04:39] matey youre a weird girl, britney [04:39] britney :D [04:39] matey :) [04:40] britney some people say im eccentric, others say im insane [04:40] matey eccentric works [04:40] britney =) [04:41] britney im quite happy that I found every issue of the Kealey papers [04:41] britney its a super rare canadian conspiracy news paper [04:41] britney thats what that image was from [04:41] britney it was from this: https://glenkealey.com/kp12.pdf [04:41] matey :) [04:42] matey i got that atlantis video you linked to [04:42] matey havent watched it yet [04:42] britney oh yeah [04:42] matey i saw 5 minutes of it [04:42] britney that one is about ancient aliens who genetically engineered humanity [04:42] matey ive owned books about atlantis so [04:42] matey if theres enough new stuff, why not watch it [04:42] matey i wont pretend its a huge interest of mine. causual [04:42] matey could be bullshit [04:42] matey itd be cool if its a real thing [04:43] britney you'll probably like the video [04:43] matey ive watched weirder stuff, thats for certain [04:43] matey i dont spend a lot of time on conspiracies / cryptohistory [04:43] matey the black triangles are interesting :) [04:44] matey we used to have a piece of a space station (a real / known one) in our basement [04:44] britney i was surprised to find out that the tv show ancient aliens has like 18 seasons [04:44] matey /me isnt saying its aliens, but its aliens [04:44] britney LOL [04:45] britney the dude with the hair [04:45] matey yeah its great [04:45] britney he was on this other show called The UnXplained with William Shatner [04:45] matey because his hair is like londo from babylon 5 [04:45] matey he could totally be centauri [04:46] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [04:46] matey when the guy that played londo did the auditions [04:46] matey he said "do you want me to do an accent" [04:46] britney there is this other awesome show called "Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura" [04:46] matey "dont do an accent" [04:46] matey he did the accent anyway :) [04:46] britney LOL [04:46] matey good old jesse ventura [04:46] britney i never saw babylon 5 [04:46] matey the thing about babylon 5 is it was really early cgi [04:47] matey i mean so much was cgi-- no models [04:47] britney he had Alex Jones on his show a few times [04:47] matey alex jones is definitely a dick [04:47] matey but i watched him with stallman :) [04:47] britney oh was Stallman on his show? [04:47] matey yes, maybe more than once [04:47] britney oh yeah! [04:47] britney i totally forgot about that [04:48] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [04:48] matey stallman will talk to ANYBODY [04:48] matey im surprised he didnt go see osama bin laden to tell him he should use free software [04:49] britney stallman was probably just doing it to be on tv, i bet that doesnt happen a lot [04:49] matey "i dont approve of his attacks on countries, but i was glad to hear that he likes the idea of free software" [04:49] britney LOL [04:49] matey oh, i think hes been on tv enough times [04:49] britney have you ever seen Revolution OS? [04:49] matey i actually have it downloaded on this partition [04:50] matey and i used to have a copy on dvd [04:50] matey (with the liner etc) [04:50] britney oooooo [04:50] matey its crap though [04:50] britney i have a digital copy of it [04:50] britney i liked it lol [04:50] matey i mean its the least crap movie-length doc with stallman in it [04:50] britney ESR being ESR [04:50] matey so much [04:50] britney "I'm your worst nightmare" says ESR [04:50] matey hey esr, why are you making that face? [04:50] matey "what face?" [04:50] matey "that one" [04:50] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:50] britney ESR is a legend [04:51] matey craig mundies worst nightmare is obviously esr creating the perfect weapon to co-opt free software with [04:51] matey then letting microsoft take it over via their board [04:51] phanes ive talked to stallman [04:51] phanes he's [04:51] phanes awkward [04:51] matey neurodivergent as fuck [04:51] phanes yeah that too [04:51] phanes its bizarre how someone that smart about technology can know so little about how its used [04:52] matey hes never installed gnu/linux [04:52] matey well i mean [04:52] matey suppose youre a horse whisperer [04:52] matey and you understand how to use horses perfectly for transport, etc [04:52] matey if theyre having a problem you can say exactly what it is [04:52] matey but open one up and the horse whisperer is like "im sorry, i have no fucking idea what to do with this" [04:53] britney i've talked to stallman via e-mail [04:53] matey because theyre not a vet [04:53] matey stallman has a laserlike focus [04:53] matey imagine trying to view an entire conference area [04:53] matey with a laser [04:54] matey youd be there for a while [04:54] matey even with a small torch, that would keep you busy [04:54] britney would stallman be eating anything off of his foot? [04:55] phanes i should stir up like 100 grand and build a new distro over a year or so [04:55] phanes just like full time [04:55] britney hmmm [04:55] matey have it support two kernels [04:55] britney you should use openbsd as a base [04:56] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [04:56] *KiKi (~KiKi@jawmghtt3yqu6.irc) has joined #techrights [04:56] phanes britney, ive actually laid down most of the groundwork to do this: https://source.silogroup.org/SURRO-Linux/foster [04:56] TR Bot SURRO-Linux/foster: Generates SURRO Linux images. - foster - SILO GROUP SCM [04:56] phanes its broken af but all the pieces are there [04:56] britney it would be nice to see something openbsd based that isnt a router os [04:57] britney phanes, my eyes! [04:57] phanes heh [04:57] britney the bright red [04:57] phanes well make a better dark + red theme for gitea and email it to me [04:57] matey what bright red? [04:58] britney im not very impressed, theres already 1 million ubuntu based distros [04:58] phanes we have to use red in our theme because of like branding or whatever [04:58] matey /me has css disabled by default [04:58] phanes after the whole thing is done im going to put the whole thing in a container, running itself as the os, to generate itself [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 301.88 [04:59] matey koreans have the coolest looking letters [04:59] britney matey, thats cuz ur using tor browser in secure mode right? [04:59] britney i like tor browser [04:59] matey its because i block most things by default [04:59] matey including css [04:59] matey i turn it on if i want it ● Jul 27 [05:00] phanes ive noticed that the ratio of complaints to correcting contributions on this type of project is like 50,000:1 and of that 1 like half of it needs adapted to project strategy [05:00] matey someday ill only go to websites through a gemini proxy :) [05:00] phanes i dont know how large projects do it tbh [05:01] britney gemini is pretty cool, reminds me of gopher [05:01] matey thats the idea [05:01] matey its supposed to remind you of gopher, while still feeling like a step forward [05:01] britney i use lagrange [05:01] matey bicycles dont scale! you cant use them for heavy freight [05:01] matey its a wonder people still use those things [05:02] matey lorries are better [05:02] matey and really, if youre serious you should just buy a train [05:02] phanes ill also go like 6 months without pushing a commit because i have no work/life balance, a sleeping disorder, and too many projects to work on at once [05:03] britney here is how to be a hacker (by ESR): http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html [05:03] TR Bot How To Become A Hacker [05:03] phanes it has to be an hour at a time, here or there, or not at all [05:03] *phanes read that as "torries are better" [05:04] phanes *tories [05:04] phanes oh shit they're not a thing anymore are they [05:05] britney i have Bruce Parrens as a friend on linkedin [05:05] matey ask leah [05:05] matey perens? [05:05] britney perens yeah [05:06] matey leah, phanes wants to know if tories are still a thing [05:07] phanes matey, speaking of tories, why does boris johnson always look like he stopped his pursuit of the ring above all to give his speech? mf looks like an albinauric [05:08] phanes like he's gonna hiccup on the cam and a piece of a child's foot will come out his mouth midspeech [05:09] matey matey, speaking of tories, why does boris johnson always look like he stopped his pursuit of the ring above all to give his speech? [05:09] matey exceptional breeding [05:09] phanes the man is half frog for christ's sake [05:10] matey as in if you summarise how to ideally breed people, he is an exception [05:11] matey hes got that "neither of my parents had to change their last name" look [05:12] phanes idk man im fairly convinced he snuck into the duke of york's coat pocket and fed in the basement back at the castle until he was big enough to try to blend in [05:13] phanes he's not quite "regal" timeless [05:13] phanes more like [05:13] phanes "wasn't born human" timeless [05:13] phanes like he had to work for it in an older age [05:15] *KiKi has quit (connection closed) [05:20] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:25] *liberty_box (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [05:25] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [05:25] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [05:31] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/26/why-metas-project-to-translate-automatically-between-200-languages-will-be-stymied-by-copyright/ [05:31] TR Bot Metas Project To Translate Automatically Between 200 Languages Will Be Stymied By Copyright | Techdirt [05:34] MinceR 27 060746 < phanes> matey, speaking of tories, why does boris johnson always look like he stopped his pursuit of the ring above all to give his speech? mf looks like an albinauric [05:34] MinceR because he's a "conservative" [05:34] MinceR politicians in general are freaks, but the authoritarian fringe tends to be even more monstrous [05:37] MinceR also, maybe they're breeding sociopaths with each other in hopes of producing lineages of successful politicians [05:38] phanes or he's half frog [05:39] phanes someone should show up at a press release and ask him if he's half frog [05:40] MinceR and expect a truthful answer? [05:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [05:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [05:41] matey he expects a priceless look [05:42] phanes if he ribbits ill shave my head [05:43] MinceR lol [05:45] matey ribbit for her majesty [05:46] britney frogs are reptiles, looks like boris got the shitty reptilian dna [05:46] britney https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/queen-reptile.png [05:46] britney I used A.I to create queen-reptile [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.85 average k/sec., average swarm size 290.15 [05:59] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 27 [06:01] matey in the 1960s, the atheistic Soviet Union promoted the ancient astronaut concept in an attempt to undermine the West's faith in religion. [06:02] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Moon#Vasin-Shcherbakov_%22spaceship%22_conjecture [06:02] TR Bot Hollow Moon - Wikipedia [06:02] matey "what do we do about the americans believing in god?" [06:02] matey "tell them it was astronauts" [06:02] matey "yes! that will fix everything!" [06:03] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, July 26, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [06:03] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [06:03] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [06:03] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [06:03] matey "what about jesus?" [06:04] matey "tell them he was a giant lizard" [06:04] matey "good idea!" [06:07] TR News "First up in the news, Mint is coming, Lennart Poettering has left the building, Vim speaks a new language, WebApps come to GNOME 43, Fedora lets Flatpak out of jail and wants to talk, GTK5 is dropping the X, Linux gets Siri, er, Cortana, er, Carola." https://mintcast.org/2022/07/26/391-putting-our-money-where-our-mouths-are/ [06:07] TR Bot 391- Putting our Money where our mouths are mintCast [06:11] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D304.jpg [06:11] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D655.jpg [06:12] TR News Running gemserv under proot gemini://gemini.susa.net/gemserv_proot.gmi [06:13] TR News beyond spartan gemini://tilde.pink/~slondr/beyond-spartan.gmi [06:21] TR News It calls itself "modular", but by default it comes with Windows, which is both malicious and in defiance of this company's mission https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/review-frameworks-next-gen-laptop-follows-through-on-its-upgradeable-promises/5/#h1 [06:21] TR Bot Review: Frameworks next-gen Laptop follows through on its upgradeable promises | Ars Technica [06:21] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:21] britney lol matey [06:22] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:22] TR News Snal 1.20 is out https://sourceforge.net/projects/snallinux/ [06:22] TR Bot Linux download | SourceForge.net [06:23] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [06:24] TR News SysLinuxOS 2022-07-26 is also out https://syslinuxos.com/ [06:24] TR Bot - SysLinuxOS [06:25] TR News The coin-operated SJVN is writing spammy ads now. How low he has sunk. https://www.zdnet.com/article/cloudify-partners-with-servicenow-for-business-cloud-automation/ [06:25] TR Bot partners with ServiceNow for business cloud automation | ZDNet [06:25] matey im a sceptical agnostic who thinks the universe is probably a hologram [06:26] matey (im not really sceptical enough to call myself a sceptic without sceptics saying "no youre not") [06:27] britney matey, i believe something similar [06:27] matey the quantum thingy? [06:27] britney we're in a simulation so yeah everything is holographic [06:27] matey i do not get the whole simulation thing [06:28] britney did you read the quantum thingy on my site? [06:28] TR News "A couple of days ago, was working on what was planned to become Limine Installer version 1.2, when hit a snag with BIOS chainloading." https://bkhome.org/news/202207/limine-bios-chainloading-enhancements.html [06:28] TR Bot Limine BIOS chainloading enhancements [06:28] matey it strikes me as a high-tech translation of "god explains everything but really just passes the buck for explaining everything" [06:28] matey i didnt read the quantum thingy [06:28] matey yet [06:28] britney it might help you understand [06:28] matey i will probably read it, its a question of when [06:29] TR News Picroscopy Turns your Raspberry Pi into a Digital Microscopy https://medevel.com/picroscopy/ Source: medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/picroscopy/ [06:29] TR Bot Picroscopy Turns your Raspberry Pi into a Digital Microscopy [06:29] britney i wrote it while i was suffering from psychosis - which is good and bad. bad because i was crazy at the time. good because genius often borders the lines between sane and crazy. [06:29] matey ive never met a sane person. i think theyre a myth. [06:29] matey ive met plenty of people who are ALLEGEDLY sane [06:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:30] britney anyone who works and doesn't think its slavery is crazy [06:30] matey people or person more or less implies crazy [06:30] matey its just different kinds of crazy [06:30] TR News "The Hurrican Aware App is a free open-source web application that track, collect, visualize and share information about the potential impacts of tropical storms in the United States." https://medevel.com/hurrican-aware-app/ [06:30] TR Bot Hurrican Aware App: Get Notified about the United States Tropical Storms [06:30] matey what people are looking for isnt sanity, its crazy in a compatible form [06:30] britney i *love* .mbox format [06:31] matey why mbox [06:31] britney its just one file [06:31] matey so is tar-gz [06:31] britney i used to like .pst but its proprietary microsoft crap [06:31] matey s/-/./ [06:31] britney lol tar.gz i guess is one file [06:31] britney maildir is kinda messy imo [06:31] matey makes it easier to delete stuff [06:32] matey ive never used maildir btw [06:32] matey im assuming the name is self-explanatory [06:32] TR News "after five years of focus on Tidelift Im feeling pretty burnt out. This is not a criticism of Tidelift" https://lu.is/blog/2022/07/25/book-notes-summer-2022-burnout-and-the-good-life/ see http://techrights.org/2022/04/19/tidelift-concern-troll/ [06:32] TR Bot Book Notes: Summer 2022 (burnout and the good life) Luis Villa: Open Tech and Policy [06:32] britney if you delete stuff via a command line, i can delete individual emails using a mail client [06:32] TR Bot Tidelift is Connected to Microsoft and It Does Not Spread a Positive Message for the Free/Open Source Community | Techrights [06:32] matey a mail client that works on directories is called a file manager [06:33] britney what do you use to backup your email? [06:33] matey i very rarely backup my email [06:33] matey but when i do, i use the same backup solution i use for everything else [06:33] matey i make copies of things and put them somewhere else [06:33] britney to be fair, i've rarely gone into my mail backups for anything [06:34] TR News If this current pace continues, today we'll serve almost 100,000 pages over Gemini [06:34] matey if all my emails got deleted, it would be a small loss [06:34] britney i just like to keep my emails just in case you know [06:34] matey well [06:34] matey to be fair [06:34] matey youre a paralegal [06:34] britney LOL [06:35] matey thus in a professional capacity, you hang out with the worlds worst hoarders [06:35] matey and theyre not ENTIRELY crazy for it [06:35] britney all of my important files, including lawsuit info, email, taxes, etc is 3843261046 bytes [06:35] matey i mean, most people can squeeze through the paper-box fort [06:35] matey and usually they have enough sense not to block the light switch with the paper-box walls at the entrance. [06:36] britney I can fit everything I consider important onto a single DVD [06:36] matey 3843261046 bytes <- if thats not cut and pasted you are VERY organised [06:36] britney including all my occult books [06:36] britney it was cut and pasted from the terminal, i just did a 7z file [06:36] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167706 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/today's_howtos.shtml #news [06:36] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [06:36] TR Bot today's howtos [06:37] britney now im encrypting that 7z file with gpg [06:37] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:38] TR News "I went into the BIOS/UEFI settings and disabled Secure Boot, then installed my Linux distribution of choice (sometimes that was POP_OS! And more recently Ubuntu). Once the installation was completed, I had not gone back and researched how to achieve better security using Secure Boot." https://eclypsium.com/2022/07/26/firmware-security-realizations-part-1-secure-boot-and-dbx/ [06:38] TR Bot Security Realizations - Part 1 - Secure Boot and DBX - Eclypsium [06:38] *liberty_box (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [06:38] britney once its encrypted im going to burn a copy [06:38] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [06:39] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [06:39] matey sounds good [06:39] britney yup [06:39] britney i also keep a copy on keybase [06:39] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [06:39] britney keybase gives u 100GB of e2e encrypted storage online [06:39] britney FREE [06:39] matey wild [06:39] TR News How to Manipulate Strings in Bash on Linux https://www.howtogeek.com/812494/bash-string-manipulation/ Source: howtogeek | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.howtogeek.com/812494/bash-string-manipulation/ [06:39] TR Bot How to Manipulate Strings in Bash on Linux [06:41] britney thats one more thing that would stop me from using freebsd [06:41] Ariadne tidelift (business model: uber for FOSS support contracts) [06:41] TR News Microsoft propagandists still try to conflate malware with "backdoors", which is something Windows has by design; this is misleading, borderline defamatory https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/newly-found-lightning-framework-offers-a-plethora-of-linux-hacking-capabilities/ [06:41] TR Bot Newly found Lightning Framework offers a plethora of Linux hacking capabilities | Ars Technica [06:41] Ariadne except literally uber for that [06:41] britney i wish i could run freebsd on my raspi zero w, but the wifi driver doesnt exist [06:41] Ariadne the maintainers i know who decided to try to work with them dont get paid shit [06:42] TR News Unlike Windows, Linux does not have back doors and zero-days ignored by the vendor (Microsoft) for months, so for this malware to get to the system something dumb needs to happen. [06:43] Ariadne i mean, the idea behind tidelift is kinda silly too [06:43] TR News With Windows, there are back doors. With Linux, however, you need to first get in somehow. The media fails to mention this. [06:43] matey tidelift: you think free software authors are fucked for money NOW, introducing a completely NEW way to paid Absolutely DICK" [06:43] Ariadne what is needed is the ability to outsource a corporate OSPO function to a vendor [06:44] Ariadne but tidelift has some other model which doesnt make any sense at all [06:44] TR News Anything to darken the brand "Linux", just because it is capable of running malicious programs too https://www.securitynewspaper.com/2022/07/25/new-very-powerful-all-in-one-linux-malware/ [06:44] TR Bot New Very Powerful All in One Linux Malware [06:44] matey 1. write open source code 2. press button 3. receive bacon [06:45] britney mmmmm baconz [06:45] Ariadne tidelift is trying to pivot to SBOMs hahahaha [06:45] Ariadne wow [06:46] TR News "For corporate and commercial projects, it is better to choose Linux, which confidently leads by the parameter "security"." https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/technology/2123628-should-i-use-linux-vps-or-windows-vps [06:46] TR Bot Should I Use Linux VPS Or Windows VPS | Technology [06:46] matey /me waits to find out tidelift was a just another crazy mlm scheme [06:46] schestowitz[TR2] SBOM does not tackle the biggest issue [06:46] schestowitz[TR2] then again look who's in LF board [06:47] matey ariadne: tideliftcoin [06:47] schestowitz[TR2] companies that literally work with and for NSA [06:47] matey :) [06:47] Ariadne SBOMs are cool [06:47] schestowitz[TR2] they will NEVER strive for REAL security [06:47] schestowitz[TR2] real secuirty - TERROR~1 [06:47] Ariadne but yes dont really solve underpaid maintainers [06:47] Ariadne also SBOM doesnt come from LF [06:47] Ariadne it comes from the federal government [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] it's promoted by it [06:48] matey everything comes from lf [06:48] Ariadne CISA specifically [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] on behalf of some firms connected to Microsoft [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] yeah, CISA [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] CISA is Microsoft apologists [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] they don't even name Microsoft [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] even when it's Microsoft [06:48] matey lizard foundation [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] LF became too close to contractors of "deep state" [06:48] Ariadne theyre a federal agency not some thing [06:48] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:49] schestowitz[TR2] and is now, therefore, oftentimes indistinguishable from it [06:49] matey halliburton os [06:49] schestowitz[TR2] matey: Eddie Foundation [06:49] Ariadne the problem is that people just never patch anything at any time [06:49] Ariadne be it FOSS or not [06:50] matey why patch? theyre still running the version they installed in 2016 [06:50] Ariadne cause that version probably has CVEs in 2022 [06:50] matey and by the time they are ready to upgrade some idiot on the board via red hat has destroyed the project [06:50] matey so you just install something else [06:50] Ariadne :p [06:50] schestowitz[TR2] if the quality of the patches or the testing is limited, it introduces risk [06:50] schestowitz[TR2] asx does cracking [06:50] schestowitz[TR2] wordpress btw is becoming too bloated [06:51] schestowitz[TR2] and still growing and growing [06:51] matey turdpress [06:51] schestowitz[TR2] 20-post wordpress blogs soon with 2000 files on the filesystem [06:51] schestowitz[TR2] and "Auto-updates" every month [06:51] Ariadne im planning to switch to hugo [06:51] matey gained fame by handing moveable tripe its arse [06:51] schestowitz[TR2] automattic controls it by proxy, over FTP [06:51] Ariadne i have a woodpecker CI server set up [06:51] schestowitz[TR2] Ariadne: we looked into hugo [06:51] Ariadne commit to git, have it publish the hugo site somewhere [06:51] schestowitz[TR2] and it wasn't great [06:52] Ariadne wham bam [06:52] britney lizard foundation <-- touche [06:52] matey i thought youd like it [06:52] schestowitz[TR2] spent a long time researching gghost and jekyl also [06:53] Ariadne the thing about patching is that when you run complex systems such as modern GNU/Linux with all its systemd nonsense, that those systems are fragile [06:53] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [06:54] britney wordpress btw is becoming too bloated <-- bloated years ago [06:54] Ariadne the more you can strip things down the less risk there is and less burden there is [06:54] schestowitz[TR2] I was involved in it closely in 2004-2007 [06:54] schestowitz[TR2] back then it was small [06:54] matey "attack surface" [06:54] schestowitz[TR2] you could hack on he code directly [06:54] schestowitz[TR2] many of us did [06:54] matey britney! question [06:54] Ariadne my wordpress container does not even have busybox inside it [06:54] Ariadne no /bin/sh [06:55] britney i'd rather use jekyll instead of a cms like wordpress [06:55] Ariadne if you pop wordpress, good luck doing anything useful with it [06:55] matey mike myers (canadian) obviously based dr evils voice on a Can-A-Di-An Ac-cent [06:55] matey my question is, what region is the one where people talk like dr evil? [06:55] britney matey, i never considered that [06:55] matey well ill tell you how i figured it out [06:55] matey first i knew myers was canadian [06:56] britney i'd have to say ontario [06:56] matey then i listened to a talk theo de raadt was giving [06:56] matey and every time he said A TACK SUR face i was like [06:56] matey omg, its dr evil [06:56] Ariadne the best part of not having /bin/sh is that the wordpress auto update doesnt work :) [06:56] matey theo de raadt talks like dr evil! [06:56] matey and then i was like wait [06:56] britney oh i think theo de raadt is in alberta [06:57] matey mike myers and de raadt are both from canada [06:57] matey dr evils voice must be based on a canadian accent somewhere! [06:57] britney mike myers grew up in ontario though [06:57] britney kinda odd [06:57] matey well i mean [06:57] Ariadne anyway we learned all of this in the 90s with jails [06:57] britney i've been told i sound like a californian [06:57] Ariadne whats old is new again i guess [06:57] matey you can be raised in new york and make fun of the way they talk in texas even if youve never visited [06:57] matey i've been told i sound like a californian <- are you from bc? [06:58] britney no [06:58] matey cant guess why then [06:58] britney i think i picked up my accent from TV, most shows are made in LA [06:58] matey some people from western canada sound nearly american [06:58] britney i was born in BC [06:58] Ariadne but wordpress sucks [06:58] Ariadne hugo or something else is probably better [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 17.65 [06:59] britney being born in BC certainly made it easier to change my gender on my ID, you can do it without surgery [06:59] britney so i was legally female on my ID years ago [06:59] matey cool [06:59] britney i only got the surgery last april [06:59] matey congrats ● Jul 27 [07:00] britney thanks :) [07:00] matey np [07:00] britney but yeah, i think i got my accent from watching TV shows that mostly get made in california [07:00] britney i watch a lot of tv [07:00] matey california is a terrible place to get an accent from :) [07:01] Ariadne running CGI scripts in jails with no /bin/sh [07:01] matey i think id take new jersey first :) [07:01] Ariadne oldest trick in the book :) [07:01] britney lol not really, i like california. i want to go there some time in my life. [07:01] Ariadne honestly sometimes i wish i were using freebsd in prod [07:02] matey i think canada should annex california. then you wont even need a passport [07:02] matey this would make it the loosest state in north america [07:02] matey first being mexican, then american, then canadian [07:02] britney matey, if you want to hear my voice: http://techrights.org/2010/11/01/techbytes-episode-1/ [07:02] TR Bot TechBytes Episode 1: Apple, Microsoft, Bundling, and Fedora 14 (With Special Guest Brandon Lozza) | Techrights [07:03] matey i think canada should annex california <- i would say theres a geographical issue with this... but that didnt stop anyone from annexing alaska [07:03] matey if you want to hear my voice <- sure, why not [07:03] britney why would we have to annex california [07:03] britney they could leave the USA on their own and i'm sure we'd let them join us [07:03] matey roy put you up to this [07:03] britney whats the word... suceed ? [07:04] matey two cs [07:04] matey oh [07:04] matey secede [07:04] britney matey, as far as I remember, i gave roy the idea to do the podcast in the first place [07:04] matey ohho [07:04] britney i think thats why im on the first episode [07:05] matey um, i wont use your deadname, but is that you? [07:06] matey it mentions a fedora ambassador [07:06] Ariadne schestowitz[TR2]: so what did you build if hugo sucks [07:08] britney yeah thats the old me [07:08] schestowitz[TR2] look at hugo dependencies for starters [07:09] matey /me nods [07:09] schestowitz[TR2] not just Microsoft [07:09] schestowitz[TR2] very large frameworks [07:09] matey if i hadnt asked, i wouldnt know who i was listening for [07:09] schestowitz[TR2] kitchen's sink [07:09] britney matey, i used to be a fedora ambassador [07:09] matey yes [07:10] britney now i use arch btw [07:10] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:11] britney schestowitz[TR2], what happened to Goblin? [07:11] matey even if you censored "arch" i could still tell youre an arch user by how mant times you say [07:11] matey "i use ______ btw" [07:11] britney yeah its a meme [07:11] britney lol [07:11] matey :) [07:12] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [07:12] britney "i use openbsd btw" - you [07:12] matey i swear i didnt mention it until you asked [07:13] britney lol im just kidding [07:13] matey roys voice has gotten a LOT deeper since i dunno, his 30s [07:13] schestowitz[TR2] britney: family affrairs... [07:14] schestowitz[TR2] when you have kids and then realise life gets harder [07:14] britney schestowitz[TR2], fair enough [07:14] schestowitz[TR2] matey: i use microphone btw [07:14] britney LOL [07:15] matey amateurs... REAL podcasters compile their own mic from source code [07:15] matey after they compile their light bulbs [07:15] schestowitz[TR2] "i'm your worst nightmare" [07:15] britney REAL podcasters compile their own sound proof room [07:15] britney "i'm your worst nightmare" <-- thats an ESR quote from Revolution OS [07:15] matey "youll inadvertantly help us take over free software? gee eric, how can we sleep?" [07:16] schestowitz[TR2] yeah [07:16] matey he stole it from rambo [07:16] schestowitz[TR2] where he makes a "reptoiz" pose :-) [07:16] britney i think im gonna watch Revolution OS again for the lulz [07:16] matey eric s reptilian [07:16] britney LOL [07:16] schestowitz[TR2] mili-SHA1 obligation [07:16] britney i like ESR, hes just the right amount of crazy [07:17] britney schestowitz[TR2], its reptoidz, not reptoiz [07:17] schestowitz[TR2] kidding anyway [07:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [07:18] britney i wonder if theres a newer documentary than Revolution OS [07:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [07:18] matey i wonder if theyll ever make a documentary about free software that isnt bullshit [07:18] britney i watched this really good documentary about BBSes [07:18] matey revolution os was the CLOSEST thing to not bs [07:18] matey and thats sad [07:19] britney i would watch a documentary about openbsd [07:19] britney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0RYQVkQmWU [07:19] TR Bot https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=k0RYQVkQmWU [07:20] TR Bot vid.puffyan.us | Revolution OS (documentary about GNU/Linux) (Multilingual) (HQ) - Invidious [07:20] matey so would i [07:20] schestowitz[TR2] "the source" [07:20] britney matey, do you have a link to theo de raadt saying attack surface? [07:20] matey it shouldnt take long to find [07:21] matey im listening to you talk about avatar [07:21] matey and toasters [07:21] schestowitz[TR2] https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=zPt_e9Cdk08 [07:21] schestowitz[TR2] the code [07:21] schestowitz[TR2] not the source [07:21] TR Bot The Code: Story of Linux documentary (Multilingual) (HQ 50 fps) - Invidious [07:21] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/the-code/ [07:21] matey most free software documentaries are corporate mythology about jesus torvalds [07:21] TR Bot The Code: Story of GNU/Linux (Documentary Now for Free as in Free Beer) | Techrights [07:22] matey " i hate windows! save us, penguin jesus!" [07:22] matey "dont worry everyone, i wrote an operating system!" [07:22] matey no you fucking didnt [07:22] matey "free software is about hate" [07:22] matey yeah, and open source is about fraud [07:22] matey but hating fraud used to be ok [07:22] matey (its against the coc now) [07:23] britney thanks schestowitz[TR2] [07:23] *britney starts ripping with yt-dlp [07:25] schestowitz[TR2] can also download from some Invidious instances [07:25] matey definitely california! [07:25] matey i think yt-dlp defaults to invidious instances [07:28] TR News Marcos uses social control media to make a statement instead of using a real site that is controlled by the nation his father attacked, robbed https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/magnitude-72-earthquake-strikes-luzon-philippines-emsc-2022-07-27/ [07:28] TR Bot 7.1 earthquake strikes Philippines; at least one dead | Reuters [07:31] britney schestowitz[TR2], can always download with yt-dlp :D [07:31] schestowitz[TR2] microsoft has, in effect, killed youtube-dl [07:31] schestowitz[TR2] and they never properly regrouped after that [07:31] schestowitz[TR2] just those forks [07:32] britney yt-dlp is a good fork [07:33] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:33] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:33] britney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI&t=13566s [07:33] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI [07:33] matey /me listens to de raadt at x1.95 speed [07:33] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI ) [07:34] britney matey, lmao [07:34] matey it takes less time [07:34] matey if i was listening for more than one phrase it would have to be slower than this [07:35] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [07:35] britney ooooo, "The Code" has ESR :D :D [07:35] matey the code is a giant pile of shit [07:35] britney is it? [07:35] matey jesus torvalds :/ [07:35] matey linux, the false messiah movement [07:36] britney oh is that because you like BSD? [07:36] matey no [07:36] matey its because torvalds isnt a liberator [07:36] matey its because torvalds spent decades stealing the limelight [07:36] schestowitz[TR2] the movie starts with rms [07:36] schestowitz[TR2] and is quite fair [07:36] schestowitz[TR2] I watched it this summer [07:37] matey and then when they give stallman the axe, they call his defenders "hero worshippers" [07:37] matey I watched it this summer <- the code? [07:37] schestowitz[TR2] yes, double standards [07:37] schestowitz[TR2] people should just be "normies" and worship the enabler of jeffrey epstein [07:37] matey dammit, ill have to watch it now (i wont agree with roy im sure) [07:37] schestowitz[TR2] matey: yes [07:37] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/the-code/ [07:37] schestowitz[TR2] in june [07:37] TR Bot The Code: Story of GNU/Linux (Documentary Now for Free as in Free Beer) | Techrights [07:37] schestowitz[TR2] starts with rmns [07:38] schestowitz[TR2] recipe analogy or melodies [07:38] britney yo gotta see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4715B10QLU [07:38] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=D4715B10QLU [07:38] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | COVID19 MAGA Coffin Dance Idiot Tribute - Invidious [07:38] matey oh thats where the recipe thing is [07:38] matey i love the recipe thing he did [07:38] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:39] schestowitz[TR2] iirc, it might show him cooking [07:39] schestowitz[TR2] but I might remember wrong [07:39] matey ive seen that clip at least [07:39] matey from where idk [07:40] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:40] TR News "Heres a simple way to write JSON from call-tables. Its very unoptimal for now since it uses an intermediate representation instead of writing directly" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/calltable-medea [07:41] schestowitz[TR2] a lot is about the torvalds family [07:41] schestowitz[TR2] siblings, parents.. [07:41] schestowitz[TR2] rarely seen footage [07:41] schestowitz[TR2] but the maker of the film is finnish iirc [07:42] TR News TikTok helps promote illegal behaviour gemini://sprock.dev/posts/mediterranean-without-borders/ [07:45] matey a lot is about the torvalds family [07:45] matey the same people who worshiped torvalds for decades are now saying stallman defenders are guilty of "hero worship" [07:45] matey its so. stupid. [07:45] matey but these things are built on hypocrisy [07:46] matey i think i finally found the video [07:47] matey lol [07:48] matey i think the video with "attack surface" is also the one with the wind-up toy of a monkey... [07:48] britney ok [07:48] matey im looking for the timestamp of "attack surface" [07:49] matey you have to do the dr evil quotes [07:49] matey "attack surface" [07:51] matey he first says attack surface around 8:50 [07:51] matey now im looking for the best instance of him saying it [07:52] matey 9:23 "i already TalKed about that" is very dr evilly too [07:52] matey i think dr evil has an alberta accent [07:53] matey al BER ta [07:55] britney lol [07:55] matey i love listening to de raadt [07:55] britney so where do I download this? [07:56] matey ill tell you as soon as i find a better example of him saying attack surface [07:56] matey if i tell you now, youll listen to the first one [07:56] matey then youll give up and not hear the funniest one [07:57] britney ok [07:57] britney you should take a clip of him saying attack surface and put it to music [07:58] britney im watching "the code" and its refreshing seeing super old computer equipment [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [07:59] matey is it on youtube? ● Jul 27 [08:00] britney yeah [08:01] britney oh yeah linus is finnish [08:01] britney i did a 23andme DNA test and found out im 9.9% finnish [08:04] matey 27:25 he says attack surface again [08:07] britney :) [08:08] matey so far these are ok but i swear theres one where he really puts the stress on the words like dr evil would do [08:09] matey when im done listening to this ill give you the url [08:11] britney ok sounds good [08:16] matey 46:34 he says "possible" in a very dr evilly way [08:17] matey it also reminds me of stephen fry (not canadian i dont think) saying "CAP a BLL" in his sketch with hugh laurie about "language" [08:18] matey 46:47 "is not going to end in a PRIV a LIGE ES calaion" the whole phrase is very dr evilly [08:19] matey and then whe says "its going to end up CRASHing" you see the quote marks [08:20] matey OH! OH! [08:20] matey LESS IS A FORK! [08:20] matey less is github [08:20] matey OPENBSD LESS IS A FORK! [08:20] matey its not github, its cvs [08:21] matey (this was a factor in why i moved to openbsd) <- not less, its just-- openbsd is like this [08:21] britney because they fork stuff? [08:21] matey "we are terrifid of the compressors-- especially xz which had two vulnerabilities" [08:21] matey no, because they FIX stuff [08:22] matey they fix things that are wrong [08:22] matey in ways other people just Dont [08:22] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Write error: Broken pipe) [08:22] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [08:24] matey britney: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F_7S1eqKsFk [08:24] TR Bot Hackfest 2015: Theo de Raadt presented "Pledge: A new security technology in openbsd" - Invidious [08:24] matey its a great video by the way [08:24] matey one of my favourites about bsd [08:25] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [08:28] matey 8:50 "AS" 9:23 "i already TalKed about that" 27:25 he says attack surface again 46:34 he says "possible" 46:47 "is not going to end in a PRIV a LIGE ES calaion" and then whe says "its going to end up CRASHing" [08:28] matey so theres your programme for theo de evil [08:29] matey maybe he says it more in the videos about "hoisting" but ive already gone through about 2 hours of video :) [08:36] britney he does kinda sound like dr evil lol [08:37] matey :D [08:51] TR News 6 Tips and Tools to Enhance Your Flatpak Experience in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167707 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/6_Tips_and_Tools_to_Enhance_Your_Flatpak_Experience_in_Linux.shtml #news [08:51] TR Bot 6 Tips and Tools to Enhance Your Flatpak Experience in Linux | Tux Machines [08:51] TR Bot 6 Tips and Tools to Enhance Your Flatpak Experience in Linux [08:55] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167708 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/howtos_2.shtml #news [08:55] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:55] TR Bot today's howtos [08:56] TR News "Also with locking engineering I mean the general problem of protecting data structures against concurrent access by multiple threads and trying to ensure that each sufficiently consistent view of the data it reads and that the updates it commits wont result in confusion." https://blog.ffwll.ch/2022/07/locking-engineering.html [08:56] TR Bot Locking Engineering Principles [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 27 [09:02] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:03] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [09:03] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [09:13] *horseface has quit (Quit: People are trying to kill me for this. Please download it! https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6231271) [09:14] matey /me spots a (nother) good reason to avoid (most) drugs [09:14] britney LSD was fun [09:15] matey lsd has to be a mixed bag-- i guess i cant knock it entirely. havent tried it [09:15] britney i've tried it once and it was amazing [09:15] britney its on my bucket list to try again [09:15] matey that guy seems very paranoid [09:16] britney i'd love to take a hit of acid, and watch: 1) Tron, 2) Star Trek 1, 3) 2001: A space oddessy, 4) Dune 80s [09:16] matey im still trying to figure out if i could stand dune without drugs. the rest of the list i already like [09:16] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [09:17] britney i haven't seen the 80s dune but i've heard its a cult classic [09:17] matey /me probably just lost mincers respect forever (but as a member of the human race i never had it anyway, so) [09:17] matey have you seen a remake? [09:17] britney no [09:17] matey so you want to see it based on what youve heard [09:17] matey (which isnt unreasonable) [09:18] britney yeah [09:18] matey it always struck me as... [09:18] matey if it didnt have some cool scenes id probably hate star wars completely [09:18] matey dune seems like it could have a similar effect [09:19] matey but ive been wrong before [09:19] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [09:19] matey related (but not in a way youd likely guess) did you know elvis was 1. a gypsy and 2. a huge monty python fan? [09:20] britney i had no idea [09:20] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:20] matey he used to reenact sketches for his wife [09:20] britney elvis has the best idea for a sandwich: peanut butter and bacon [09:20] matey /me imagines the dead parrot sketch in an elvis voice [09:20] matey yeah uhhhh this parrot i got, its dead uh-huh [09:20] britney uhhhh huh [09:20] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [09:21] britney lol [09:21] matey i actually had maple syrup in milk about 10 minutes ago [09:21] matey its nearly as good as chocolate syrup [09:22] matey but there are very few maple products i care about. i like it on pancakes, waffles, oatmeal, and in milk. [09:22] matey (its also good in mayonaise, actually) [09:22] matey turkey sandwich with maple mayo [09:22] matey really good [09:22] matey but maple in candy... any kind... gross [09:22] matey /me shrugs [09:24] matey i should try it with peanut butter. pb and honey i liked as a kid [09:25] matey havent tried pb and maple [09:27] matey stallman avoids the risk of being sold a dead parrot by avoiding the purchase of any parrot outright [09:28] *liberty_box (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [09:28] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [09:28] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [09:29] *rianne_ has quit (connection closed) [09:29] *rianne has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [09:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [09:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Kev Quirk [10:15] TR News "In retrospect I realise that this is one reason it took me so many years to eventually set up a website (and gemini capsule)" https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-26-re-revisiting-the-web-analytics-rabbit-hole.html | Source: Bjrn Wrmedal [10:15] TR Bot Re: Revisiting the Web Analytics Rabbit Hole - Bjrn Wrmedal [10:15] *matey has quit (connection closed) [10:15] TR News "The idea for an Ansible reference (or cheat) sheet was reborn last week at the Linuxhotel" https://jpmens.net/2022/07/24/an-ansible-reference-sheet/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens [10:15] TR Bot Jan-Piet Mens :: An Ansible reference sheet [10:18] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [10:19] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@mfchq32teqvfy.irc) has joined #techrights [10:19] TR News "To get statistics today you have a number of options." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/ZFSOnLinuxGettingPoolIostats | Source: uni Toronto [10:19] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/ZFSOnLinuxGettingPoolIostats [10:20] TR News "Pong is simple." https://earthly.dev/blog/pongo/ | Source: Earthly [10:20] TR Bot Building Pong in Your Terminal: Part One - Earthly Blog [10:21] TR News "This article explains how you can install OpenShot Video Editor on Ubuntu." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/07/how-to-install-openshot-video-editor-on-ubuntu.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [10:21] TR Bot How To Install OpenShot Video Editor on Ubuntu [10:21] TR News "Managing files in a graphical desktop like GNOME or KDE is an exercise in point-and-click." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/manage-files-linux-command-line | Source: OpenSource.com [10:21] TR Bot I manage files from the Linux command line | Opensource.com [10:22] TR News "The Bash command line is a great way to automate tasks." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/use-bash-automate-tasks-linux | Source: OpenSource.com [10:22] TR Bot I use Bash to automate tasks on Linux | Opensource.com [10:22] TR News "Excluding HTML, PDF files are probably the most popular document format on the web." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/shrink-pdfs-minuimus-linux | Source: OpenSource.com [10:22] TR Bot PDFs with this Linux tool | Opensource.com [10:22] TR News "Those Linux users who deal with PDF files have plenty of programs to choose from." https://www.tecmint.com/work-with-pdf-files-onlyoffice-docs-linux/ | Source: TecMint [10:22] TR Bot How to Work with PDF Files Using ONLYOFFICE Docs in Linux [10:23] TR News "The project will have a 24-hour social event with attendees visiting openSUSEs virtual Bar." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/07/26/community-to-celebrate-os-birthday/ | [10:23] TR Bot Community to celebrate openSUSE Birthday - openSUSE News [10:23] TR News "Continuous integration, continuous delivery (CI/CD) and DevOps you often hear these terms used interchangeably" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/path-gitops-new-e-book-guide-you-your-gitops-journey | Source: Red Hat Official [10:23] TR Bot The Path to GitOps: A new e-book to guide you on your GitOps journey [10:24] TR News "GRUB, stands for GRand Unified Bootloader, is default boot loader for most Linux operating systems." https://ostechnix.com/change-grub-theme-in-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix [10:24] TR Bot To Change GRUB Theme In Linux - OSTechNix [10:24] TR News "The IMB760 is an Extended ATX motherboard, meaning it measures around 330 x 305mm which allows it to incorporate additional ports." https://linuxgizmos.com/eatx-board-features-intel-lake-sp-processors-1tb-ddr4-and-dual-10gbe/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:24] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/eatx-board-features-intel-lake-sp-processors-1tb-ddr4-and-dual-10gbe/ ) [10:25] TR News iophk: deleted by "reddit"; downplays the hardware DRM; ignores Canonical's silence; https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/window-10-eol-in-2025-year-of-the-linux:d [10:25] TR Bot Window 10 EOL In 2025: Year Of The Linux Desktop? [10:25] TR News Ring Doorbell is Giving Data to Police Without Your Consent https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/ring-doorbell-is-giving-data-to-police:9 Source: AlphaNerd | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/ring-doorbell-is-giving-data-to-police:9 [10:25] TR Bot Ring Doorbell is Giving Data to Police Without Your Consent [10:26] TR News Trolls 'won' :(. Change of Policy - Anonymous Coward Posting on the Main Page - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=22/07/26/0853222 Source: soylentnews | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=22/07/26/0853222 [10:26] TR Bot Change of Policy - Anonymous Coward Posting on the Main Page - SoylentNews [10:28] TR News Microsoft is NOT a factor :/ users can now connect a Twitter account as a recovery method - The Verge https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/26/23279502/npm-twitter-account-recovery-2fa-github-security Source: theverge | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theverge.com/2022/7/26/23279502/npm-twitter-account-recovery-2fa-github-security [10:28] TR Bot NPM users can now connect a Twitter account as a recovery method - The Verge [10:30] TR News My honest review of the HP Dev One http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167644#comment-34435 [10:30] TR Bot HP Dev One Linux Laptop Review: The Best for Linux | Tux Machines [10:31] TR News It calls itself "modular", but by default it comes with Windows, which is both malicious and in defiance of this company's missio http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167644#comment-34436 [10:31] TR Bot HP Dev One Linux Laptop Review: The Best for Linux | Tux Machines [10:32] TR News No posts from Liam Dawe for a day and a half already. Maybe on holiday... [10:33] TR News "Vehicles are becoming more connected, autonomous, shared and electric (the famous CASE acronym)" https://ubuntu.com//blog/unravelling-complexity-in-a-software-defined-vehicles-industry | Source: Ubuntu [10:33] TR Bot complexity in software-defined vehicles | Ubuntu [10:33] TR News "developers can buy Dells flagship XPS 13-inch laptop with the latest version" https://ubuntu.com//blog/dell-xps-13-plus-developer-edition-now-certified-with-ubuntu-22-04-lts | Source: Ubuntu [10:34] TR Bot XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition now certified with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Ubuntu [10:34] TR News "This list is going to be short and there may be a sublist of distros with a medium strict standard." https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/07/26/333/ | Source: Systemd Free [10:34] TR Bot 2022 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts | systemd-free linux community [10:35] TR News "In the world of computing, many interfaces utilize a primary/secondary model of asymmetric communication" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/25/reviving-a-vintage-secondary-split-flap-clock-with-arduino/ | Source: Arduino [10:35] TR Bot Reviving a vintage secondary split-flap clock with Arduino | Arduino Blog [10:35] TR News "As of Ubuntu 22.04, the Raspberry Pi Pimoroni Unicorn HATs are supported on Ubuntu out of the box." https://ubuntu.com//blog/raspberry-pi-hat-tutorials-part-2-blinkenlights-and-micro-pong | Source: Ubuntu [10:35] TR Bot Pi HAT tutorials part 2 Blinkenlights and micro-Pong! | Ubuntu [10:36] TR News "What does open hardware need to succeed, and why have many projects failed? And why do the successful products often have non-free components" https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/25/Open-hardware-graveyard.html | Source: Drew DeVault [10:36] TR Bot The past and future of open hardware [10:37] TR News "" https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/07/25/romulus-demonstration-on-an-amiga-500/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings [10:37] TR Bot ROMulus demonstration on an Amiga 500 LinuxJedi's /dev/null [10:37] TR News "" https://jpieper.com/2022/07/25/updated-moteus-test-fixture/ | Source: J Pieper [10:37] TR Bot Updated moteus test fixture | A Modicum of Fun [10:38] *horseface has quit (Quit: People are trying to kill me for this. Please download it! https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6231271) [10:38] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [10:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [10:45] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:47] TR News New Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Kernel Security Update Fixes 9 Vulnerabilities Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167712 [10:48] TR Bot New Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Kernel Security Update Fixes 9 Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines [10:52] TR News "Ive just pushed out version 0.8.0 of Obnam, an encrypting backup program. Below are the release notes." https://obnam.org/blog/2022/07/24/obnam-0.8.0/ | [10:52] TR Bot Obnam 0.8.0 - encrypting backup program [10:53] TR News "A collaboration between CERT NZ, Catalyst and the open source community has created a major update for Samba, making it more secure." https://channellife.co.nz/story/cert-nz-helps-open-source-community-with-upgrade-of-samba | [10:53] TR Bot CERT NZ helps open source community with upgrade of Samba [10:54] TR News "The SeaMonkey Web Browser and Internet Suite (Web page editor, Mail and News client, and ChatZilla for IRC) is still producing" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/23/the-seamonkey-internet-suite-is-still-developed-is-it-right-for-you/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) [10:54] TR Bot The SeaMonkey Internet Suite is still developed. Is it right for you? BaronHK's Rants [10:55] TR News "non-coding contributions are frequently overlooked and underappreciated in open-source initiatives" https://klarasystems.com/articles/contributing-to-open-source-beyond-software-development/ | Source: Klara [10:55] TR Bot Contributing to Open Source Beyond Software Development | Klara Inc. [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 27 [11:03] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@m5c7ce8bffjme.irc) has joined #techrights [11:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [11:05] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@9bet2gcyrqbk6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:11] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:11] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[11:26] TR News "If you assume that the unit direction vector is in the first quadrant (both x and y are positive)" https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/24/round-a-direction-vector-to-the-nearest-8-way-compass/ | Source: Daniel Lemire [11:26] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/07/24/round-a-direction-vector-to-the-nearest-8-way-compass/ ) [11:26] TR News "Im a big proponent of the email workflow for patch submission and code review." https://drewdevault.com/2022/07/25/Code-review-with-aerc.html | Source: Drew DeVault [11:26] TR Bot Code review at the speed of email [11:26] TR News "There's a curious case of a neural network for object recognition called YOLO" https://matt-rickard.com/defensible-machine-learning-model-naming/ | Source: Matt Rickard [11:26] TR Bot Defensible Machine Learning Model Naming [11:26] TR News "The next release of Leiningen (likely 2.9.9) will include support for starting an nREPL server listening to an Unix domain socket." https://metaredux.com/posts/2022/07/25/leiningen-adds-support-for-nrepl-s-unix-sockets.html | Source: Bozhidar Batsov [11:26] TR Bot Leiningen Adds Support for nREPLs Unix Sockets | Meta Redux [11:27] schestowitz[TR2] Ariadne: we can set up the gemini capsule for you [11:27] schestowitz[TR2] with agate [11:27] schestowitz[TR2] we wrote wordpress->agemtext conveters [11:27] schestowitz[TR2] *gemtext convertors [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: you can run gemini off your laptop if it's always on and connected [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] but you would need to register a domain name to associate with the capsule's cert [11:29] schestowitz[TR2] and then keep the domain chained to a fixed address, or keep that domain pointer dynamic with tools (or manually) [11:29] TR News "I recently needed to include an arbitrary blob of data in an executable, in a manner that's easily ported across platforms." https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/whats_the_most_portable_way_to_include_binary_blobs_in_an_executable.html | Source: Lawrence Tratt [11:29] TR Bot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). 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I never miss an opportunity to engage in some tech nostalgia..." https://rubenerd.com/tech-you-like-thats-gone/ | Source: Ruben Schade [11:33] TR Bot Tech you like thats gone [11:33] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:34] TR News Hardware from the past... https://lunduke.substack.com/p/remembering-the-very-funky-holborn | Source: Bryan Lunduke [11:34] TR Bot Remembering the (very) funky Holborn computers of the early 1980s [11:35] TR News "In 1982, Canon released the AS-100 computer." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/1982s-canon-as-100-computer-workstation | Source: Bryan Lunduke [11:35] TR Bot 1982's Canon AS-100 Computer Workstation - by Bryan Lunduke [11:40] TR News "I cant help but wonder if, in the minds of many reviewers, MacBooks were PCs so long as they used Intel" https://wormsandviruses.com/2022/07/a-burger-without-heinz/ | [11:40] TR Bot A Burger Without Heinz Worms and Viruses [11:40] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:40] TR News Twitter-Microsoft Proprietary(R) Integration(TM) https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/26/23279502/npm-twitter-account-recovery-2fa-github-security | Source: The Verge [11:40] TR Bot NPM users can now connect a Twitter account as a recovery method - The Verge [11:41] TR News "In February 2021, forensic analysis by Amnesty International and Citizen Lab revealed that Kanimba had been surveilled" https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3575411-daughter-of-imprisoned-hotel-rwanda-hero-to-testify-on-spyware-at-house-hearing/ | Source: The Hill [11:41] TR Bot Daughter of imprisoned Hotel Rwanda hero to testify on spyware at House hearing | The Hill [11:41] TR News "primary care practice with nearly 200 locations across the country" https://text.npr.org/1113427867 | Source: NPR [11:41] TR Bot Amazon buying One Medical is only its most recent dive into the health care industry [11:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:49] TR News IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/irc-log-260722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/27/irc-log-260722/ [11:49] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 | Techrights [11:51] TR News widget.mibbit.com cert expired today (27 July 2022) and they forgot to renew [11:55] TR News [Old] Clearview HEY HI https://noyb.eu/en/second-eu-20-mio-fine-clearview-ai | Source: NYOB [11:55] TR Bot Second 20 Mio Fine for Clearview AI [11:55] TR News "The question above is straight-forward and the answer lies in the bandwidth that we, Mauritians, consume." https://sysadmin-journal.com/how-much-space-is-required-to-store-2-mins-of-data-captured-from-all-internet-traffic-in-mauritius/ | Source: Ish Sookun [11:55] TR Bot How much space is required to store 2 mins of data captured from all internet traffic in Mauritius? [11:56] TR News "You'll need JavaScript for this to work." :/ https://blog.bithole.dev/blogposts/detecting-dns-resolvers/ | Source: Adriaan Zhang [11:56] TR Bot Detecting Users' DNS Resolvers [11:56] TR News Confidentiality https://sysadmin-journal.com/what-is-tls-encryption-and-how-does-it-secure-your-internet-communication/ | Source: Ish Sookun [11:56] TR Bot What is TLS encryption and how does it secure your internet communication? [11:56] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 27 [12:02] TR News SaaS security in Kubernetes environments: A layered approach | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/07/27/saas-security-kubernetes-environments-layered-approach Source: developers | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/07/27/saas-security-kubernetes-environments-layered-approach [12:02] TR Bot SaaS security in Kubernetes environments: A layered approach | Red Hat Developer [12:02] *horseface (~horseface@5tgyiveuteft2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:05] TR News Absolute64-20220724 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167713 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Absolute64-20220724_released.shtml #news [12:05] TR Bot Absolute64-20220724 released | Tux Machines [12:05] TR Bot Absolute64-20220724 released [12:08] TR News Security: Firmware Fake Security, FUD Campaign, VPS, and Buzzword Security Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167714 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Security:_Firmware_Fake_Security,_FUD_Campaign,_VPS,_and_Buzzword_Security.shtml #news [12:08] TR Bot Security: Firmware Fake Security, FUD Campaign, VPS, and Buzzword Security | Tux Machines [12:08] TR Bot Security: Firmware Fake Security, FUD Campaign, VPS, and Buzzword Security [12:09] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:10] TR News Twitter has an infestation of bots/spam/marketing accounts, asking for contact details of people to just push spam or be seen (the spam). Twitter is probably aware of it, but still trying to LOOK big. [12:11] TR News Twitter isn't just spam. Twitter is a way to deceive you, waste your time, distract from what you really ought to be doing. [12:13] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [12:14] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [12:14] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [12:22] TR News "I bought PICO-8 a few years ago and played a few games. They're really small, but many are fun. And the source always comes with the game, which is quite a nice culture really." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-27-pico-8-and-tic-80.gmi [12:22] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:22] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [12:22] *rianne has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:22] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [12:25] TR News "The United States needs to adopt a more offensive cybersecurity posture to survive in an evolving digital world" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/07/u-s-must-go-on-offensive-to-address-cybersecurity-issues/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast [12:25] TR Bot U.S. Must Go on Offensive to Address Cybersecurity Issues : Broadband Breakfast [12:25] TR News "supplant the U.S. as the global economic leader and end the U.S. dollar's status as the world's primary reserve currency." https://www.voanews.com/a/senate-report-alleges-chinese-effort-to-infiltrate-federal-reserve-/6674963.html | Source: VOA News [12:25] TR Bot Senate Report Alleges Chinese Effort to Infiltrate Federal Reserve [12:25] TR News "a very proactive step" https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/25/nuclear-attack-aftermath-what-to-do-government-response/ | Source: Foreign Policy [12:25] TR Bot What to Do After a Nuclear Attack [12:26] TR News Digital Earth Viewer ..... licensed under the EUPL https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/eupl/news/digital-earth-viewer | Source: Joinup [12:27] TR Bot Digital Earth Viewer | Joinup [12:27] TR News "We have previously reported on this and similar investigations with significant fluctuations in position." https://itwire.com/business-it-news/business-technology/world-wide-mobile-data-compared-for-the-fourth-year-in-a-row.html | Source: IT Wire [12:27] TR Bot - World-wide mobile data compared for the fourth year in a row [12:28] TR News Facebook is shrinking. So it's faking a future... in hype waves... like Microsoft does with "CLOWN" (while Trump and Biden bail them out) https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/26/23279478/meta-apple-mark-zuckerberg-metaverse-competition | Source: The Verge [12:28] TR Bot Meta and Apple in deep competition to build the metaverse, Zuckerberg tells staff - The Verge [12:28] TR News "The markup has been long awaited by critics who say the existing regulations are no longer adequate for a generation raised on the internet." https://thehill.com/policy/3573852-senate-panel-turns-to-kids-online-safety/ | Source: The Hill [12:28] TR Bot Senate panel turns to kids online safety | The Hill [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:33] TR News Pegasus... and nobody in NSO Group arrested. Explain to me how this is different from malware gangs... because they're state connected, for-profit, and CLAIM to be against crime? Because they work FOR white-collar criminals and not against them? https://citizenlab.ca/2022/07/geckospy-pegasus-spyware-used-against-thailands-pro-democracy-movement/ | Source: Citizen Lab [12:33] TR Bot GeckoSpy: Pegasus Spyware Used Against Thailands Pro-Democracy Movement - The Citizen Lab [12:33] TR News Twitter is dying, desperate to sell https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/twitter-costs-elon-musk-deal-q2-1235326461/ | Source: Variety [12:33] TR Bot Spent $33M on Musk Deal in Q2; Sets Date for Shareholder Vote - Variety [12:34] TR News Censorship: "The policy sets criteria for the selection, removal and replacement of books" https://eu.buckscountycouriertimes.com/story/news/local/2022/07/27/central-bucks-votes-for-library-policy-despite-legal-threats-bucks-county-pa-book-ban-wokepa/65382830007/ | [12:34] TR Bot Central Bucks votes for library policy despite legal threats [12:35] *horseface (~horseface@xdzjegjqggjxq.irc) has joined #techrights [12:35] TR News "Newsroom raids, a website ban and a team reporting from exile are no obstacle for the independent Belarusian..." https://www.voanews.com/a/exiled-journalists-take-on-corruption-disinformation/6675342.html | Source: VOA News [12:35] TR Bot Exiled Journalists Take on Corruption, Disinformation [12:36] TR News Digitalisation not as great as it seems https://cphpost.dk/?p=137144 | Source: Copenhagen Post [12:36] TR Bot Digitalisation not as great as it seems, claims new Justitia report - The Post [12:38] TR News "This new chip was announced by Microsoft in 2020" in an ongoing BATTLE AGAINST BSD AND GNU/LINUX (to shut them out!) https://gabrielsieben.tech/2022/07/25/the-power-of-microsoft-pluton-2/ | http://techrights.org/2022/01/09/ppp-traitors/ [12:38] TR Bot The dangers of Microsoft Pluton Gabriel Sieben [12:38] TR Bot Pluton Proponents Working for Plutocracy (and Pentagon Agenda) | Techrights [12:39] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:40] TR News The Dawn of the Apocalypse https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/26/chris-hedges-the-dawn-of-the-apocalypse/ | Source: Scheerpost [12:40] TR Bot Hedges: The Dawn of the Apocalypse scheerpost.com [12:44] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [12:46] TR News "The [GNU] date command is used to get the current date and time. You can easily customize the results by using the arguments. In this how-to tutorial, you will learn to format the date as YYYY-MM-DD in the bash shell." https://tecadmin.net/yyyy-mm-dd-format-date-in-a-shell-script/ [12:46] TR Bot YYYY-MM-DD format date in a Shell Script TecAdmin [12:47] TR News How to install Regata OS 22.0.3 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=77-qshjALxQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/77-qshjALxQ [12:47] TR Bot How to install Regata OS 22.0.3 - Invidious [12:47] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [12:47] TR News LinusTechTips [Microsoft Linus] built the ultimate Steam Deck. Or did they? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v-L-Iov3RQ8 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/v-L-Iov3RQ8 [12:47] TR Bot LinusTechTips built the ultimate Steam Deck. Or did they? - Invidious [12:50] TR News Does not put an end to its very own spyware and back doors https://www.maketecheasier.com/congress-fights-foreign-spyware/ [12:50] TR Bot Congress Joins the Fight Against Foreign Spyware - Make Tech Easier [12:52] TR News ICBM Red Hat: "You've mastered a Linux tool"... OOOOOF!!!! master! have you no shame? Raysist Islamistphobes. https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-tool-replacements [12:52] TR Bot Linux tool alternatives: 6 replacements for traditional favorites | Enable Sysadmin [12:52] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@9bet2gcyrqbk6.irc) has joined #techrights [12:53] *techuser (~techuser@dhbexrjppffwu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:55] TR News Many fools think Apple invented such crap. Palm did this more than 2 decades ago. https://www.addictivetips.com/apple-2/how-to-set-up-apple-pencil/ [12:55] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/apple-2/how-to-set-up-apple-pencil/ ) [12:56] TR News My Palm PDA is still fully functional and barely scratched. I no longer use it much, but that basically ensures it lives longer. [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 27 [13:00] TR News "The former operator of pirate IPTV service HeHeStreams has reached a plea agreement with the US government." https://torrentfreak.com/hehestreams-pirate-iptv-owner-admits-cybercrime-forfeits-500k-220726/ | Source: Torrent Freak [13:00] TR Bot Pirate IPTV Owner Admits Cybercrime, Forfeits $500K * TorrentFreak [13:00] TR News "Popular sports streaming site Rojadirecta has found itself on the losing end of a piracy battle in Italy." https://torrentfreak.com/rojadirecta-ordered-to-pay-over-e500000-in-sports-piracy-damages-220726/ | Source: Torrent Freak [13:00] TR Bot Ordered to Pay Over 500,000 in Sports Piracy Damages' * TorrentFreak [13:00] TR News Netflix and DRM: bad for the planet... plus this https://www.desmog.com/2022/07/26/climate-leader-netflix-donated-to-rightwing-think-tank/ | Source: DeSmog [13:00] TR Bot Leader Netflix Donated to Pro-Pipeline, Koch-Supported Think Tank - DeSmog [13:01] TR News Pro Publica should disclose that it's bagging bribes from Polio profiteer and Famous Criminal Bill Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/polio-virus-us-new-york-vaccine | Source: [13:01] TR Bot How Polio Crept Back Into the U.S. ProPublica [13:02] TR News On copyrights https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/26/why-metas-project-to-translate-automatically-between-200-languages-will-be-stymied-by-copyright/ | Source: Techdirt [13:02] TR Bot Metas Project To Translate Automatically Between 200 Languages Will Be Stymied By Copyright | Techdirt [13:03] TR News "CIA veteran John Kiriakou breaks down some of the most important elements of Vault 7the biggest leak in CIA history" https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/26/cia-vault-7-leaker-found-guilty-what-did-he-actually-reveal/ | Source: Scheerpost [13:03] TR Bot Vault 7 Leaker Found Guilty. What Did He Actually Reveal? scheerpost.com [13:03] TR News Secret border surveillance https://digit.site36.net/2022/07/26/secret-border-surveillance-italy-drastically-restricts-freedom-of-information/ | Source: Site36 [13:03] TR Bot Secret border surveillance: Italy drastically restricts freedom of information Security Architectures in the EU [13:04] TR News Ashley Madison https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/07/a-retrospective-on-the-2015-ashley-madison-breach/ | Source: Krebs On Security [13:04] TR Bot A Retrospective on the 2015 Ashley Madison Breach Krebs on Security [13:09] TR News Anti-union??? https://truthout.org/articles/outgoing-boris-johnson-government-passes-anti-union-law-amid-looming-strike-wave/ | Source: TruthOut [13:09] TR Bot Outgoing Boris Johnson Government Passes Anti-Union Law Amid Looming Strike Wave [13:10] TR News Surveillance https://truthout.org/articles/ice-is-using-data-from-lexisnexis-to-skirt-sanctuary-laws-and-deport-immigrants/ | Source: TruthOut [13:10] TR Bot ICE Is Using Data From LexisNexis to Skirt Sanctuary Laws and Deport Immigrants [13:10] TR News Bailing out the billionaires only https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-if-us-can-spend-76b-on-computer-chips-it-can-pass-medicare-for-all/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [13:10] TR Bot Sanders: If US Can Spend $76B on Computer Chips, It Can Pass Medicare for All [13:10] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [13:12] TR News Murdoch wants to open everything up and kill people https://truthout.org/articles/new-york-post-announces-covid-is-over-its-still-running-rampant/ | Source: TruthOut [13:12] TR Bot New York Post Announces COVID Is Over. It's Still Running Rampant. [13:17] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:22] *horseface (~horseface@v9xxrjqemzavq.irc) has joined #techrights [13:29] TR News Memorable: Kyle Walker Goalkeeper vs Atalanta https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3K5gt0kC7lM [13:29] TR Bot Kyle Walker Goalkeeper vs Atalanta - 6/11/2019 HD 1080p - Invidious [13:30] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:30] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[14:10] schestowitz[TR2] Donald Biden [14:10] schestowitz[TR2] same agenda [14:10] schestowitz[TR2] same ruling class [14:10] schestowitz[TR2] different smile [14:10] schestowitz[TR2] DifferenSmile2024 [14:10] schestowitz[TR2] Maybe they can amend the constitution and yoou can have Obama smile again [14:10] schestowitz[TR2] he's young enough [14:11] schestowitz[TR2] he will smile all your proibelms away [14:13] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:15] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [14:15] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [14:16] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:17] TR News Links 27/07/2022: Absolute64 20220724 and G4Music | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/g4music/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/27/g4music/ [14:17] TR Bot Links 27/07/2022: Absolute64 20220724 and G4Music | Techrights [14:20] TR News Security and DRM: TLS, Ashley Madison Breach, Microsoft Fake Security, and DRM Against the Planet Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167715 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Security_and_DRM:_TLS,_Ashley_Madison_Breach,_Microsoft_Fake_Security,_and_DRM_Against_the_Planet.shtml #news [14:20] TR Bot Security and DRM: TLS, Ashley Madison Breach, Microsoft Fake Security, and DRM Against the Planet | Tux Machines [14:20] TR Bot Security and DRM: TLS, Ashley Madison Breach, Microsoft Fake Security, and DRM Against the Planet [14:21] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167716 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Programming_Leftovers.shtml #news [14:21] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:21] TR Bot Programming Leftovers [14:21] TR News Free, Libre Software: Hurrican Aware App, Obnam, Samba, and Digital Earth Viewer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167717 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Free,_Libre_Software:_Hurrican_Aware_App,_Obnam,_Samba,_and_Digital_Earth_Viewer.shtml #news [14:21] TR Bot Free, Libre Software: Hurrican Aware App, Obnam, Samba, and Digital Earth Viewer | Tux Machines [14:21] TR Bot Free, Libre Software: Hurrican Aware App, Obnam, Samba, and Digital Earth Viewer [14:22] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167718 [14:22] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:22] TR News Games and Multimedia Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167719 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Games_and_Multimedia.shtml #news [14:22] TR Bot Games and Multimedia | Tux Machines [14:22] TR Bot Games and Multimedia [14:23] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167720 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/leftovers_2.shtml #news [14:23] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [14:23] TR Bot today's leftovers [14:23] TR News Burnout and Openwashing Fluff Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167721 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Burnout_and_Openwashing_Fluff.shtml #news [14:23] TR Bot Burnout and Openwashing Fluff | Tux Machines [14:23] TR Bot Burnout and Openwashing Fluff [14:24] TR News Pop!_OS 22.04 Linux Distro is Finally Adding Raspberry Pi 4 Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167691#comment-34437 [14:24] TR Bot System76s Pop!_OS Linux 22.04 Distro Is Now Available for Raspberry Pi 4 PCs | Tux Machines [14:29] TR News "Capitalisms two biggest problems are exploitation and externalities. Capitalist proponents argue that exploitation is a good thing. Aspirational. Its a well-known political cleavage." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/unchoir [14:30] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:32] *Noisytoot has quit (Excess Flood) [14:33] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [14:52] MinceR 27 064600 < britney> frogs are reptiles, looks like boris got the shitty reptilian dna [14:52] MinceR no, they're amphibians [14:54] Ariadne frogs are cool [14:54] Ariadne boris is not cool [14:55] MinceR indeed [14:57] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:57] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:58] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 27 [15:00] MinceR lol @ masturbating monkey toy (in Theo de Raadt video) [15:00] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [15:03] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [15:04] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@wz5hq5gy99ure.irc) has joined #techrights [15:16] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [15:16] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@wz5hq5gy99ure.irc) has joined #techrights [15:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:18] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@wz5hq5gy99ure.irc) has joined #techrights [15:21] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [15:23] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@wz5hq5gy99ure.irc) has joined #techrights [15:24] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/30/technically-the-truth-06-30-22/ [15:24] TR Bot Ok, Not The Response They Were Expecting, But Still Technically The Truth (30 NEW Pics) [15:24] DaemonFC Ugh, Libera is even more annoying than Freenode was. [15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [15:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [15:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) ● Jul 27 [16:03] psydruid teenage mutant ninja turtles eat frogs, so those are even cooler [16:07] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:08] *techuser (~techuser@rjkzwfr2m827w.irc) has joined #techrights [16:11] TR News "Essential Workers" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/27/essential-workers-who-gets-a-place-in-the-pandemic-picket-line/ | Source: Counter Punch [16:11] TR Bot Workers - Who Gets a Place in the Pandemic Picket Line? - CounterPunch.org [16:13] TR News "There is no doubt that there is a global shortage in microchips and semiconductors which is making it harder for manufacturers to produce the cars, cell phones, household appliances" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/27/why-u-s-must-join-the-club-and-give-blank-checks-to-microchip-companies-while-ignoring-other-major-issues/ | Source: Counter Punch [16:13] TR Bot U.S. Must Join the Club and Give Blank Checks to Microchip Companies While Ignoring Other Major Issues - CounterPunch.org [16:14] *liberty_box (~liberty@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [16:14] TR News "peak oil" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/26/enduring-tyranny-oil-war-inflation-geopolitical-rivalry-and-soaring-world | Source: Common Dreams [16:14] TR Bot Opinion | The Enduring Tyranny of Oil: War, Inflation, Geopolitical Rivalry, and Soaring World Temperatures | Michael T. Klare [16:14] *rianne_ (~rianne@k66x6u69vmfv8.irc) has joined #techrights [16:14] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-310.q8k.ese45h.IP) has joined #techrights [16:14] TR News Endless OS 5 Promises Refreshed Desktop Experience, All-New App Center, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167722 [16:14] TR Bot Endless OS 5 Promises Refreshed Desktop Experience, All-New App Center, and More | Tux Machines [16:16] Ariadne schestowitz[TR2]: hmm, a CMS built on gemtext that renders web pages and gemini pages could be interesting :) [16:16] schestowitz[TR2] this is what we work on [16:16] schestowitz[TR2] but it starts from html and runs tidy past the input [16:19] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/30/oddly-specific-jokes-june/ [16:19] TR Bot 40+ Of This Month's Most Hilarious And Oddly Specific Jokes (June) [16:20] TR News US run by a single party, the party of the rich, and it has two arms https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/26/really-inexcusable-progressives-lament-democrats-failure-reverse-trump-tax-cuts | Source: Common Dreams [16:20] TR Bot 'Really Inexcusable': Progressives Lament Democrats' Failure to Reverse Trump Tax Cuts [16:20] TR News "disrupt business as usual" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/26/rejecting-business-usual-while-planet-burns-students-vow-occupy-schools-worldwide | Source: Common Dreams [16:20] TR Bot Rejecting 'Business as Usual' While Planet Burns, Students Vow to Occupy Schools Worldwide [16:34] TR News Hertz https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/26/more-horror-stories-about-hertzs-false-theft-accusations-pile-up-as-class-action-suit-moves-forward/ | Source: Techdirt [16:34] TR Bot Horror Stories About Hertzs False Theft Accusations Pile Up As Class Action Suit Moves Forward | Techdirt [16:34] phanes 99% sure containers are only popular because developers are clueless about how to package software and why they should [16:34] TR News "Earlier this month BMW took ample heat for its plans to turn heated seats into a costly $18 per month subscription in numerous countries." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/26/hackers-already-prepared-to-screw-up-bmws-subscription-heated-seat-model/ | Source: Techdirt [16:34] TR Bot Already Prepared To Screw Up BMWs Subscription Heated Seat Model | Techdirt [16:35] phanes my favorite is `curl $installer.sh | bash` [16:36] schestowitz[TR2] no [16:36] schestowitz[TR2] sudo bash [16:37] TR News "Retro hardware often looks fantastic, but we may find we no longer need it for its original function." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/26/hackaday-prize-2022-digital-dice-towers-built-in-beautiful-retro-cases/ | Source: Hackaday [16:37] TR Bot Prize 2022: Digital Dice Towers Built In Beautiful Retro Cases | Hackaday [16:39] AdmFubar https://tedium.co/2022/07/27/10-forgotten-video-formats-codecs-containers/ [16:39] TR Bot 10 Video Format Technologies That Didnt Make It [16:39] TR News "fake news" https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/26/the-head-of-the-governments-media-holding-telex-is-fake-news | Source: Telex (Hungary) [16:39] TR Bot Telex: The head of the government's media holding: Telex is fake news [16:39] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: someone has truck a nerve [16:40] schestowitz[TR2] soorry [16:40] schestowitz[TR2] a fake nerve [16:41] TR News "rampant unfair practices" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/26/warren-padilla-demand-buttigieg-crack-down-airline-industrys-rampant-unfair | Source: Common Dreams [16:41] TR Bot Warren, Padilla Demand Buttigieg Crack Down on Airline Industry's 'Rampant Unfair Practices' [16:42] TR News Patents as theft of what the public paid for already https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/26/biden-told-not-give-publicly-owned-covid-19-vaccine-tech-over-corporations | Source: Common Dreams [16:42] TR Bot Biden Told Not to Give Publicly Owned Covid-19 Vaccine Tech Over to Corporations [16:43] AdmFubar :)) florida!!! https://www.rawstory.com/floirda-man-arrested/ [16:43] TR Bot Florida man tried to break into military base with stolen truck to warn about space alien and dragon war - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism [16:44] TR News "With the low-cost PCB fabrication services available to hackers and makers these days" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/26/a-new-way-to-produce-pcbs-with-your-3d-printer/ | Source: Hackaday [16:44] TR Bot New Way To Produce PCBs With Your 3D Printer | Hackaday [16:44] schestowitz[TR2] Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism [16:44] schestowitz[TR2] -RawStrory [16:44] schestowitz[TR2] writes about a nut merely TRYING [16:44] schestowitz[TR2] to enter a base [16:44] schestowitz[TR2] very clickbait [16:45] TR News "Joe Biden decided to fist bump the man, As if a clenched fist hides the blood on ones hands." https://www.thenation.com/article/society/mohammed-bin-salman-biden/ | Source: The Nation [16:45] TR Bot Mohammed bin Salman | The Nation [16:46] TR News "Kids Online Safety Act" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/26/with-all-the-other-nonsense-going-on-senate-democrats-priority-is-to-spy-on-kids-online/ | Source: Techdirt [16:47] TR Bot All The Other Nonsense Going On, Senate Democrats Priority Is To Spy On Kids Online? | Techdirt [16:47] TR News "Remember Judge Alan Albright? He was the former patent litigator who became a federal judge (the only federal judge) in Waco, Texas" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/26/texas-courts-fix-its-judge-alan-albright-problem-by-automatically-reassigning-most-of-his-patent-cases/ | Source: Techdirt [16:47] TR Bot Courts Fix Its Judge Alan Albright Problem By Automatically Reassigning Most Of His Patent Cases | Techdirt [16:49] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/27/russia-and-iran-to-sign-agreement-on-exporting-iranian-aircraft-parts-and-repairing-russian-aircraft-news "Russia and Iran to sign agreement on exporting Iranian aircraft parts and repairing Russian aircraft" [16:49] TR Bot . [16:49] MinceR (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/WwGHFEj [16:49] TR Bot My bestest boy - rimgo [16:50] TR News SpellBinding: EHNOSTY Wordo: PUSHY gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/new.gmi [16:50] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/27/a78416 [16:50] TR Bot Supplies of Russia's Sputnik Light Covid Booster Run Dry - The Moscow Times [16:50] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [16:50] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/27/a78418 (what is even left?) [16:50] TR Bot Russia Vows to Hinder Work of Western Media After RT France Ban - The Moscow Times [16:50] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/27/a78417 [16:50] TR Bot Russian Prisons Say Can Replace IKEA With Better, Cheaper Inmate-Made Furniture - The Moscow Times [16:50] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/27/a78420 [16:50] TR Bot Russia Hands Down First Jail Sentence to Surrogate Mother - The Moscow Times [16:51] TR News "robot locomotion" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/26/omnidirectional-walker-with-wheeled-feet/ | Source: Hackaday [16:51] TR Bot Walker With Wheeled Feet | Hackaday [16:51] TR News Patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/26/it-better-nothing-i-suppose-sanders-disappointed-dems-drug-pricing-plan | Source: Common Dreams [16:51] TR Bot 'Is It Better Than Nothing? I Suppose': Sanders Disappointed by Dems' Drug Pricing Plan [16:52] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1552150996742184961 [16:52] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile in Russia: decorated propagandists and prominent pundits ponder the best ways to cause unrest and global turmoil. They plot interfering in elections all over the world, including the home turf of their most hated enemythe United States. Watch:"|nitter [16:52] TR News "Research published Tuesday warns that "forever chemicals" used in everyday products could lead to tens of billions of dollars in medical costs" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/26/study-ties-forever-chemicals-exposure-billions-us-health-costs | Source: Common Dreams [16:52] TR Bot Study Ties 'Forever Chemicals' Exposure to Billions in US Health Costs [16:53] MinceR 27 175023 < XRevan86> https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/27/a78418 (what is even left?) [16:53] MinceR have they ever done anything else? [16:53] TR News "a group of researchers at the University of Tokyo have built a device that enables haptic interaction with a balloon." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/26/balloons-are-the-user-interface-of-the-future/ | Source: Hackaday [16:53] TR Bot Are The User Interface Of The Future | Hackaday [16:53] XRevan86 MinceR: I don't get what they're planning to ban even. The Disney channel? [16:53] MinceR lol [16:54] schestowitz[TR2] Geminipedia [16:56] TR News Sixth Amendment https://www.projectcensored.org/protections-of-the-sixth-amendment-and-third-party-ballot-issues/ | Source: Project Censored [16:56] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/protections-of-the-sixth-amendment-and-third-party-ballot-issues/ ) [16:56] AdmFubar https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/07/true-cost-of-aging-index-shows-many-seniors-cant-afford-basic-necessities.html [16:56] TR Bot True Cost of Aging Index Shows Many Seniors Cant Afford Basic Necessities | naked capitalism [16:57] TR News "Tor Browser 11.5.1 updates Firefox on Windows, macOS, and Linux to 91.12.0esr." https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1151/ Does it still link to Microsoft DDG after taking Microsoft bribes through DDG? [16:57] TR Bot New Release: Tor Browser 11.5.1 (Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project [16:57] schestowitz[TR2] Necessities is all they have, AdmFubar [16:57] schestowitz[TR2] many unable to travel, just heat, food, tax [16:58] schestowitz[TR2] and they all went up by a lot [16:58] schestowitz[TR2] so maybe the idea is, force them to live with the kids [16:58] schestowitz[TR2] who are themselves already struggling [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 27 [17:01] TR News Diversion away from the urgent need to get rid of back-doored proprietary software https://www.lawfareblog.com/open-source-security-how-digital-infrastructure-built-house-cards NSA Bruce participates with CISA https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/securing-open-source-software.html [17:01] TR Bot Open-Source Security: How Digital Infrastructure Is Built on a House of Cards - Lawfare [17:01] TR Bot Open-Source Software - Schneier on Security [17:06] TR News 100 whales die on shore. NSA Bruce comes along, calls it a catastrophe. It smells bad. Let's find a way to make it smell less bad... [17:06] TR News Security updates for Wednesday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/902642/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/902642/ [17:06] TR Bot updates for Wednesday [LWN.net] [17:08] TR News in recent years, in the name of "critical infrastructure", the military tried to take more and more control over Free software, e.g. by letting Microsoft "manage" it in GitHub and subjecting it to more autocracy, developer 'culls' [17:21] TR News With Football Stadiums About to Become Packed Again, Highest Daily COVID-19 Death Toll in More Than 3 Months https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/27/worst-summer/ [17:21] TR Bot Blog Archive With Football Stadiums About to Become Packed Again, Highest Daily COVID-19 Death Toll in More Than 3 Months [17:22] *horseface (~horseface@66j7sz3nafyyw.irc) has joined #techrights [17:23] TR News Security advisory: FreeType in Qt https://www.qt.io/blog/security-advisory-freetype-in-qt Source: qt | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.qt.io/blog/security-advisory-freetype-in-qt [17:23] TR Bot Security advisory: FreeType in Qt [17:24] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:30] TR News OpenMandriva Lx 5.0 ROME Technical Preview Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167698#comment-34441 [17:30] TR Bot OpenMandriva Lx ROME (Rolling) Technical Preview | Tux Machines [17:32] TR News Attacking EFB updates | Pen Test Partners https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/attacking-efb-updates/ Source: pentestpartners | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/attacking-efb-updates/ [17:32] TR Bot Attacking EFB updates | Pen Test Partners [17:38] *horseface has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) [17:41] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [17:43] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [17:44] britney you vill eat ze crickets! [17:44] MinceR after you [17:49] britney https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/schwab-crickets.jpg [17:49] *darwin has quit (connection closed) [17:50] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Untitled-1-7-608x319.jpg [17:50] britney lol [17:54] TR News Security Leftovers: CISA Mindset, Patches, Qt, and EFB Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167723 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Security_Leftovers:_CISA_Mindset,_Patches,_Qt,_and_EFB.shtml #news [17:54] TR Bot Security Leftovers: CISA Mindset, Patches, Qt, and EFB | Tux Machines [17:54] TR Bot Security Leftovers: CISA Mindset, Patches, Qt, and EFB ● Jul 27 [18:02] TR News Perl Weekly Challenge 175: Last Sunday and Perfect Totient Numbers http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/07/perl-weekly-challenge-175-last-sunday-and-perfect-totient-numbers.html [18:02] TR Bot Weekly Challenge 175: Last Sunday and Perfect Totient Numbers | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org] [18:04] TR News COVID-19 deaths by date, England only https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/27/worst-summer/ worst summer so far. BY FAR. [18:11] TR News Parts of the UK COVID-19 map are back to PURPOSE now. Dark purple. And it is SUMMER. [18:13] TR News Some of the days, in England, not even 1000 people (all in all) get a COVID-19 dose. It would be placebo at this point. The real solution is masks, distance, home-working etc. [18:15] TR News LLVM Discussion Forums: Release/15.x has branched https://discourse.llvm.org/t/release-15-x-has-branched/64095 [18:15] TR Bot Release/15.x has branched - LLVM Project - LLVM Discussion Forums [18:16] TR News [pull] amdgpu, amdkfd drm-next-5.20 https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220726181536.5759-1-alexander.deucher@amd.com/T/#u Source: amd | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220726181536.5759-1-alexander.deucher@amd.com/T/#u [18:16] TR Bot [pull] amdgpu, amdkfd drm-next-5.20 [18:16] TR News FAKE "encryption" (back doors) is used by Microsoft against Linux https://www.phoronix.com/news/BitLocker-Dual-Boot-Linux-Pain see http://techrights.org/2014/07/31/microsoft-back-doors-admission/ and http://techrights.org/2015/11/14/microsoft-bitlocker-has-bugback-doors-windows-laptopdesktop-encryption-just-a-farce/ [18:16] TR Bot Use Of Windows BitLocker Is Causing Headaches For Linux Dual Booting - Phoronix [18:17] TR Bot Former Microsoft Engineer Working on Windows BitLocker Confirms Government Asks Microsoft for Back Doors | Techrights [18:17] TR Bot Microsoft BitLocker Has Bug/Back Doors, Windows Laptop/Desktop Encryption Just a Farce | Techrights [18:17] MinceR once again, we see how microsoft "loves" linux [18:20] TR News "Windows 10/11 increasingly enables Bitlocker (full disk encryption)" is misleading as there are back doors. What sort of "encryption" is that? Microsoft criminals attack Linux and use MJG along with other "useful idiots" to pretend it's in the name of "security" https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/47SPDF3X6L6NPS5PXZVBSCD2MZRRUOOE/ [18:20] TR Bot future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists [18:21] TR News Lots of evidence already that UEFI only makes security worse http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI [18:21] TR Bot UEFI - Techrights [18:22] TR News Microsoft wants to herd people into Windows and then say it "supports" 'Linux' whilst in fact alluding to WSL [18:24] TR News Pluton fake 'security' is promoted by people who don't even have a Bachelors degree in a computing-related discipline http://techrights.org/2022/01/09/ppp-traitors/ [18:24] TR Bot Pluton Proponents Working for Plutocracy (and Pentagon Agenda) | Techrights [18:25] TR News ICBM should rename the Fedora installer "Microsoft". Because Microsoft loves Linux like an Anaconda. [18:27] TR News Upcoming Techrights article or video (not decided yet): Microsoft's Crimes Against the Competition, Notably BSD and GNU/Linux, Disguised as 'Security' (UEFI 'Secure' Boot, TPM, Pluton...) [18:28] TR News The Steam Deck - Unexplored Potential - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8oQdJjxn9EA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/8oQdJjxn9EA [18:28] TR Bot The Steam Deck - Unexplored Potential - Invidious [18:29] TR News "Between 2022-07-20 and 2022-07-27 there were 31 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 263 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 11.8 % of total released titles. Heres a quick pick of the most interesting ones..." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-with-native-linux-clients-2022-07-27-edition/ [18:29] TR Bot New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-07-27 Edition - Boiling Steam [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:30] TR News Phoronix sponsored by AMD gifts. AMD is a foremost proponent of Microsoft lockdown at chip level. So I view Phoronix's concerns as an expression of guilt, partly. He also took some 'freebies' from Microsoft. [18:33] TR News ICBM has long loved TPM/Palladium (just as it loved war, it's a prime source of income). So don't expect Red Hat to put up any meaningful resistance to what Microsoft does to de facto ban Linux. Heck, Red Hat was the employer of the "engineer" (geneticist) who put the Trojan horse there in the first place, conflating control by Microsoft with "security". [18:34] TR News Mark J. Wielaard - Blog Archive - Happy birthday, Valgrind! https://gnu.wildebeest.org/blog/mjw/2022/07/27/happy-birthday-valgrind/ Source: FSF | GNU | FreeSW | SoftwareFreedom [18:34] TR Bot Mark J. Wielaard Blog Archive Happy birthday, Valgrind! [18:37] TR News Announcing the Keyword Generics Initiative | Inside Rust Blog https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/07/27/keyword-generics.html Source: rust-lang | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/07/27/keyword-generics.html [18:37] TR Bot Announcing the Keyword Generics Initiative | Inside Rust Blog [18:42] TR News LWN should link to the original, not to Microsoft GitHub https://gnu.wildebeest.org/blog/mjw/2022/07/27/happy-birthday-valgrind/ see LWN feeding Microsoft https://lwn.net/Articles/902643/ [18:42] TR Bot Twenty years of Valgrind [LWN.net] [18:48] TR News Pi Shortage - Are These Worthwhile Raspberry Pi Alternatives? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167724 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Pi_Shortage_-_Are_These_Worthwhile_Raspberry_Pi_Alternatives?.shtml #news [18:48] TR Bot Pi Shortage - Are These Worthwhile Raspberry Pi Alternatives? | Tux Machines [18:48] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Pi_Shortage_-_Are_These_Worthwhile_Raspberry_Pi_Alternatives?.shtml ) [18:48] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [18:51] TR News This system detects leaks by listening to water flowing through pipes | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/27/this-system-detects-leaks-by-listening-to-water-flowing-through-pipes/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [18:51] TR Bot This system detects leaks by listening to water flowing through pipes | Arduino Blog [18:52] TR News "SFC is pursuing a long-term plan to assist FOSS projects to migrate away from GitHub, according to Denver Gingerich, SFC FOSS license compliance engineer, and Bradley M. Kuhn, SFC policy fellow. They said the SFC will not accept new member projects without a long-term plan to migrate away from GitHub." https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/feuding-developers-dueling-distros-make-linux-lineage-revival-legendary-176620.html [18:52] TR Bot Feuding Developers, Dueling Distros Make Linux Lineage Revival Legendary [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 27 [19:00] TR News intel/dev: Enable remaining DG2 and ATS-M device IDs https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=398a9be94b44ba1063c41e6aa6558a05d797d876 [19:00] TR Bot mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa) [19:00] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [19:01] TR News ICBM Red Hat: We (heart) bankers https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/customer-success-stories-how-red-hat-products-and-services-are-enabling-banking-automotive-and-urban-planning-innovation [19:01] TR Bot Customer success stories: How Red Hat products and services are enabling banking, automotive and urban planning innovation [19:02] TR News ICBM Red Hat: We (heart) buzzwords (HEY HI!) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/artificial-intelligence-unite-teams [19:02] TR Bot 3 ways artificial intelligence can help unite remote teams | The Enterprisers Project [19:03] TR News "Reciprocate trust and respect," says the company which threatened an employee, telling him he's "IBM employee 100% of the time" (even after work) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/heros-journey-empower-team [19:03] TR Bot 5 lessons from 'The Hero's Journey' to empower your IT team | The Enterprisers Project [19:03] *matey (~matey@vvbde374bfqga.irc) has joined #techrights [19:13] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Screen-Shot-2022-06-30-at-8.51.40-AM.png [19:17] TR News Programming: Boycott of GitHub, LLVM 15 Branched, Valgrind is 20 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167725 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Programming:_Boycott_of_GitHub,_LLVM_15_Branched,_Valgrind_is_20.shtml #news [19:17] TR Bot Programming: Boycott of GitHub, LLVM 15 Branched, Valgrind is 20 | Tux Machines [19:17] TR Bot Programming: Boycott of GitHub, LLVM 15 Branched, Valgrind is 20 [19:25] TR News Links 27/07/2022: Twenty Years of Valgrind and Tor Browser 11.5.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/tor-browser-11-5-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/27/tor-browser-11-5-1/ [19:25] TR Bot Links 27/07/2022: Twenty Years of Valgrind and Tor Browser 11.5.1 | Techrights [19:27] TR News New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients, Unexplored Potential? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167726 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/New_Steam_Games_with_Native_Linux_Clients,_Unexplored_Potential%3F.shtml #news [19:27] TR Bot New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients, Unexplored Potential? | Tux Machines [19:27] TR Bot New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients, Unexplored Potential? [19:27] TR News Leftovers: Tor Browser 11.5.1, Arduino Project, and Red Hat Fluff Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167727 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Leftovers:_Tor_Browser_11.5.1,_Arduino_Project,_and_Red_Hat_Fluff.shtml #news [19:27] TR Bot Leftovers: Tor Browser 11.5.1, Arduino Project, and Red Hat Fluff | Tux Machines [19:27] TR Bot Leftovers: Tor Browser 11.5.1, Arduino Project, and Red Hat Fluff [19:32] TR News What Is XDP (Express Data Path) in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167728 [19:32] TR Bot What Is XDP (Express Data Path) in Linux | Tux Machines [19:32] TR News 6 Privacy Benefits of Using Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167729 [19:32] TR Bot 6 Privacy Benefits of Using Linux | Tux Machines [19:36] TR News Firefox Adds Long-Anticipated Feature http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167645#comment-34443 [19:36] TR Bot Mozilla Firefox 103 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [19:43] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167730 [19:43] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines ● Jul 27 [20:02] MinceR (audio) https://apina.biz/190724.mp4?mode=sfw [20:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190724.mp4 [20:04] TR News "The Web and design team at Canonical runs in two-week iterations building and maintaining all of the Canonical websites and product web interfaces. Here are some of the highlights of our completed work from this iteration." https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-15-july-2022 [20:04] TR Bot and Web team summary 15 July 2022 | Ubuntu [20:05] TR News T-Display-S3 board offers ESP32-S3 WiSoC, 1.9-inch color LCD, and LiPo battery support - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/27/t-display-s3-board-offers-esp32-s3-wisoc-1-9-inch-color-lcd-and-lipo-battery-support/ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/27/t-display-s3-board-offers-esp32-s3-wisoc-1-9-inch-color-lcd-and-lipo-battery-support/ [20:05] TR Bot T-Display-S3 board offers ESP32-S3 WiSoC, 1.9-inch color LCD, and LiPo battery support - CNX Software [20:07] TR News "The early 2000s were an interesting era - they marked a widespread die-off of legacy high-end RISCs and an exciting new entrant in the form of the joint Intel/HP Itanium family. I decided to throw together some graphs of performance by family over time, drawn from SPECint and SPECfp base results." gemini://arcanesciences.com/gemlog/22-07-27/ [20:07] TR News Sunset Briefly Gets Political: The Dobbs Decision gemini://arcanesciences.com/gemlog/22-07-26/ [20:07] TR News My Pi 0 clock gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-07-27-pi-clock.gmi [20:08] TR News "The CHIP-8 looks to be much more primitive than the aforementioned offerings. I haven't used it. I think there was a guy on YouTube that showed how to create an emulator and assembler, probably in Rust." gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-07-27-chip8.gmi [20:24] *matey has quit (connection closed) [20:34] TR News A Year Ago Brexitnaro/Borisnaro Declared Freedom Day. Now, Almost 50,000 Additional Deaths Later, ~1100 Die in a Week in England Alone (in Summer). https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/27/a-year-ago-brexitnaroborisnaro-declared-freedom-day-now-almost-50000-additional-deaths-later-1100-die-in-a-week-in-england-alone-in-summer/ [20:35] TR Bot Blog Archive A Year Ago Brexitnaro/Borisnaro Declared Freedom Day. Now, Almost 50,000 Additional Deaths Later, ~1100 Die in a Week in England Alone (in Summer). [20:36] Ariadne i'll just drop this here [20:36] Ariadne https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-in-the-wall-street-journal-microsoft-and-cookies/ [20:36] TR Bot in the Wall Street Journal: Microsoft and cookies - Nextcloud [20:38] TR News A totally meaningless measure; unlike Windows, there aren't known back doors and malware needs some way to get in. This seems like commercially-motivated misinformation from a private company peddling VPNs https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-malware-all-time-high-2022/ [20:38] TR Bot Linux Malware Found To Be at an All-Time High in 2022 [20:39] *matey (~matey@t5byp5xfmisj6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:39] TR News Such data should not be collected or shared. Mozilla is just another GAFAM drone now, posturing while spying. https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/07/27/mozilla-submits-comments-in-ostp-consultation-on-privacy-preserving-data-sharing/ [20:39] TR Bot Mozilla submits comments in OSTP consultation on privacy-preserving data sharing - Open Policy & Advocacy [20:40] TR News Mozilla used to be fine engineers, now it's wannabe politicians https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/deep-dives/parental-controls-internet-safety-for-kids/ [20:40] TR Bot Parents want to keep their kids safe online. But are parental controls the answer? [20:40] techuser cuddlybear66: ^ relevant [20:41] TR News Baker = pioson kitchen of Mozilla. Cui bono? The paymaster, Gulag Inc. [20:41] techuser put the children in a sandbox and never relase them I guess [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] give them rakes [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] they can do some work [20:41] techuser sandbox as in a security term [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] I know [20:41] techuser parents want slaves/pets, idk [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] pay the kids with NFRs [20:42] schestowitz[TR2] and Pogs [20:42] techuser no idea which one of these two [20:42] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_caps_(game) [20:42] TR Bot Milk caps (game) - Wikipedia [20:42] techuser pets don't work usually [20:42] techuser though some do, e.g. a dog to protect a house, a cat to catch mice [20:42] schestowitz[TR2] are kids expensive pets then? [20:42] techuser probably [20:43] schestowitz[TR2] can you return them to the pet shop? [20:43] techuser no idea; can one return pets this way? [20:43] schestowitz[TR2] If you put them back i the womb, evangelicals will protect them [20:43] schestowitz[TR2] but only in the womb [20:43] MinceR :> [20:43] schestowitz[TR2] not after they come out [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] then it's "thoughts and prayer" [20:44] techuser no proper way to raise children [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] "arm the kids" [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] MyFirstPistol(R) [20:44] techuser cuddlybear66 thinks there is one [20:44] schestowitz[TR2] ARForToddlers [20:44] techuser I don't believe though [20:44] matey parents want slaves/pets, idk <- good parents dont [20:44] techuser what do good parents want? [20:44] techuser do they exist? [20:44] matey probably [20:45] matey #techrights : 07/27/22 19:43 but only in the womb [20:45] matey #techrights : 07/27/22 19:43 :> [20:45] matey #techrights : 07/27/22 19:43 not after they come out [20:45] schestowitz[TR2] "LOOK. you are NOT my fathuh!" [20:45] matey if pregnant brown mothers are killed by a drone, thats okay [20:46] matey they dont actually care about the life of the child at all. as long as mum dies WITH the baby, a death of a fetus is FINE actually [20:46] matey "pro-life" [20:46] matey its only murder when its done by a doctor or a black guy [20:46] matey or when it spares the mother in some way [20:46] techuser how about kill all parents around as well as any related services, and release the children? Some will die, some will survive [20:47] matey how about kill all parents around as well as any related services, and release the children? <- overkill [20:47] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@yevedmyetc9v6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:47] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [20:47] matey generally anything that splits up families is a bad strategy [20:47] TR News The domain linuxsecurity.com actively pushes anti-Linux FUD to make sales; this is misuse of a domain https://linuxsecurity.com/features/your-linux-firewall-can-t-stop-these-3-attacks [20:47] TR Bot Your Linux Firewall Cant Stop These 3 Attacks! [20:47] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@7v95229iaxugs.irc) has joined #techrights [20:48] matey some families really should be split up, but imo a child should be able to run away and voluntarily orphan themselves [20:48] matey then they can request the state look after them [20:48] matey /me isnt kidding [20:48] matey (at least about that last part) [20:48] DaemonFC The Democrats let criminals do crazy shit with guns while they play catch and release. [20:48] DaemonFC So everyone should suffer? [20:49] techuser IRC is better than a family [20:49] DaemonFC Just give the criminals the death penalty and allow everyone else to live in peace. [20:49] techuser many "friends", but can also /quit [20:49] techuser an issue with death penalty is that it isn't safe from errors [20:49] TR News Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols became LF-sponsored LF salesperson; he attacks the founder of GNU with defamatory articles and belittles Microsoft as a threat. Now this SBOM canard.] https://www.csoonline.com/article/3667483/8-top-sbom-tools-to-consider.html [20:49] TR Bot 8 top SBOM tools to consider | CSO Online [20:49] matey that is an issue with it, yes [20:50] techuser and sometimes not even errors, but people the government wants to be removed [20:50] DaemonFC schestowitz Public Official 1 has been laying pretty low since the indictment. (Mike Madigan) [20:50] techuser or certain rich people [20:50] TR News Leaves out the most expensive component of clown computing: the vendor lockin and loss of control, privacy etc. https://www.how2shout.com/linux/use-google-cloud-pricing-calculator/ [20:50] TR Bot How much does google cloud cost per month? Use its Calculator [20:51] DaemonFC It was right after the "Future Energy Jobs Act" that ComEd switched to Microsoft Azure to run their Web site, which has since been so unreliable I have to pay our electric bill with checks sent USPS mail. [20:52] DaemonFC Well, lately, writing my credit card number and mailing back a payment coupon EVERY SINGLE MONTH. [20:52] DaemonFC Azure = The Future! [20:52] DaemonFC I'm pretty sure Microsoft was part of the bribery scandal we'll never hear about. [20:53] TR News 10 Video Format Technologies That Didnt Make It https://tedium.co/2022/07/27/10-forgotten-video-formats-codecs-containers/ Source: tedium | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tedium.co/2022/07/27/10-forgotten-video-formats-codecs-containers/ [20:53] TR Bot 10 Video Format Technologies That Didnt Make It [20:54] matey most people who are pro-death penalty dont care about the errors much [20:54] matey they just like the idea of people getting killed [20:54] TR News Hackers of the world unite at HOPE 2022https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/hackers-of-the-world-unite-at-hope-2022 Source: FSF | GNU | FreeSW | Software Freedom | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.fsf.org/blogs/community/hackers-of-the-world-unite-at-hope-2022 [20:55] TR News "On July 27, 2022, Citizen Lab senior researcher John Scott-Railton was asked to appear before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was invited to provide expert testimony on a hearing devoted to combating threats to U.S. national security from the proliferation of foreign commercial spyware." https://citizenlab.ca/2022/07/john-scott-railton-delivers-testimony-to-house-permanent-select-committee-on-intelligence/ [20:55] TR Bot John Scott-Railton Delivers Testimony to House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence - The Citizen Lab [20:57] TR News AMD marketing site Phoronix announces Windows product for AMD https://www.phoronix.com/news/Radeon-Raytracing-Analyzer code outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software, as usual. [20:57] TR Bot Announces Radeon Raytracing Analyzer - Phoronix [20:57] TR News QEMU 7.1 coming soon https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/7.1 [20:57] TR Bot ChangeLog/7.1 - QEMU [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] TR News "Son, what do you want to be when you grow up?" "I want to be healthy, no malnutrition and war." "Sorry, son, that's not an option, choose something else..." ● Jul 27 [21:02] TR News "The mini comes with Windows 11 Pro pre-installed," so why even cover this, CNX??? https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/27/zotac-zbox-pi336-pico-mini-pc-gets-an-elkhart-lake-upgrade-with-intel-celeron-n6211/ [21:02] TR Bot ZOTAC ZBOX PI336 PICO mini PC gets an Elkhart Lake upgrade with Intel Celeron N6211 - CNX Software [21:02] TR News Microsoft affordable [sic] computer... 'only' $300. With GNU/Linux you get one for $30. [21:04] TR News Strong-Armed Into HPC, Like It Or Not https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/27/strong-armed-into-hpc-like-it-or-not/ Source: nextplatform | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/27/strong-armed-into-hpc-like-it-or-not/ [21:04] TR Bot Strong-Armed Into HPC, Like It Or Not [21:04] schestowitz[TR2] Ariadne: of interest to you^ [21:04] TR News Bluestar 5.18.14 is out. https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ [21:04] TR Bot download | SourceForge.net [21:05] TR News "The previously-installed mainstream Linux distributions had installed GRUB2, so I have enhanced Limine Installer to detect this and chainload to it. In the earlier test, these were the detected installations..." https://bkhome.org/news/202207/limine-installer-enhanced-efi-chainload.html [21:05] TR Bot Limine Installer enhanced EFI chainload [21:06] TR News Biased, FOSS-hostile, self-serving FUD from the SBOM profiteers https://www.fosslife.org/cyber-safety-report-outlines-software-security-best-practices [21:06] TR Bot Cyber Safety Report Outlines Software Security Best Practices [21:08] TR News We're entered a time when FOSS-hostile entities are 'lecturing' us on the risks and threats of FOSS. This is what happens when organisations like LF and OSI sell out. [21:08] TR News Stroll Is an Outstanding Roam-alike Note-Taking System https://medevel.com/stroll-notes/ [21:08] TR Bot Stroll Is an Outstanding Roam-alike Note-Taking System [21:13] TR News Liferea News Reader 1.13.9 Adds Google Reader API Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167731 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Liferea_News_Reader_1.13.9_Adds_Google_Reader_API_Support.shtml #news [21:13] TR Bot Liferea News Reader 1.13.9 Adds Google Reader API Support | Tux Machines [21:13] TR Bot Liferea News Reader 1.13.9 Adds Google Reader API Support [21:14] MinceR (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/mqoSOgy [21:14] TR Bot Today's Cat - rimgo [21:15] TR News The Best VPN GUI For Linux https://www.unixmen.com/the-best-vpn-gui-for-linux/ Source: unixmen | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.unixmen.com/the-best-vpn-gui-for-linux/ [21:15] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/the-best-vpn-gui-for-linux/ ) [21:16] TR News Watch The World as it Collapses From Your Linux Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167732 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Watch_The_World_as_it_Collapses_From_Your_Linux_Desktop.shtml #news [21:16] TR Bot Watch The World as it Collapses From Your Linux Desktop | Tux Machines [21:16] TR Bot Watch The World as it Collapses From Your Linux Desktop [21:16] TR News 'Linux' Foundation: martyr for Microsoft the puppy [21:18] TR News Family connection to the famous SUSE Jaeger? https://www.suse.com/c/the-brains-behind-the-books-jana-jaeger/ [21:18] TR Bot brains behind the books: Jana Jaeger | SUSE Communities [21:19] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/in-rare-contact-us-offers-russia-deal-for-brittney-griner-paul-whelan [21:19] TR Bot In rare contact, US offers Russia deal for Brittney Griner, Paul Whelan | WGN-TV [21:20] DaemonFC I said: "Give them Biden and then hurry up and get the hostages out before they bring him back." [21:21] TR News Anti-Linux people like Alan Shimel are used by the so-called 'Linux' Foundation to promote FUD; this is despicable, but it's what happens when Microsoft pays the bills https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/crob-software-security-education/ see http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/ [21:21] TR Bot CRob on Software Security Education and SIRTs - Linux Foundation [21:21] TR Bot Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | Techrights [21:21] DaemonFC https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/06/couple-bought-home-in-seattle-then-learned-comcast-internet-would-cost-27000 [21:21] TR Bot Couple bought home in Seattle, then learned Comcast Internet would cost $27,000 | Ars Technica [21:21] DaemonFC ARSE Technica [21:22] DaemonFC "Comcast ultimately said it would require installing 181 feet of underground cable to connect the house and that the couple would have to pay Comcast over $27,000 to make that happen. Cohn and Zenobi did not pay the $27,000, and they've been relying on a 4G hotspot ever since." [21:27] *CrystalMath (~coderain@zpvtapq2in23w.irc) has joined #techrights [21:28] bnchs lol [21:28] bnchs costs as much as a fucking car [21:28] bnchs burgerland ISP i guess [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:30] TR News For-Profit FUD Attacks on Linux Wrapped Up as Advice or News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167733 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/For-Profit_FUD_Attacks_on_%27Linux%27_Wrapped_Up_as_Advice_or_News.shtml #news [21:30] TR Bot For-Profit FUD Attacks on 'Linux' Wrapped Up as Advice or News | Tux Machines [21:30] TR Bot For-Profit FUD Attacks on 'Linux' Wrapped Up as Advice or News [21:30] TR News Ubuntu Devs Finally Fix Frustrating Firefox Snap Flaw Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167734 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/27/Ubuntu_Devs_Finally_Fix_Frustrating_Firefox_Snap_Flaw.shtml #news [21:30] TR Bot Ubuntu Devs Finally Fix Frustrating Firefox Snap Flaw | Tux Machines [21:30] TR Bot Ubuntu Devs Finally Fix Frustrating Firefox Snap Flaw [21:32] TR News Deaths in the end of July have soared. This chart was published hours ago. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/27/a-year-ago-brexitnaroborisnaro-declared-freedom-day-now-almost-50000-additional-deaths-later-1100-die-in-a-week-in-england-alone-in-summer/ [21:32] TR Bot Blog Archive A Year Ago Brexitnaro/Borisnaro Declared Freedom Day. Now, Almost 50,000 Additional Deaths Later, ~1100 Die in a Week in England Alone (in Summer). [21:32] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167735 [21:32] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] who [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] like 4 police vans [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] and 43 polie casrs [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] at the back of our home [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] *th4 [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] *4 [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] there was a major incident [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] I saw the cops pun ching one guy who didn't even put up resistance [21:42] schestowitz[TR2] after pushing him to the ground [21:42] schestowitz[TR2] no idea what went on but there was major commotion with like 50 people around, mostly young people [21:42] schestowitz[TR2] no abulance [21:43] schestowitz[TR2] there are like 30-40 cops outside now [21:43] schestowitz[TR2] made some arrests [21:46] schestowitz[TR2] no info in their site] [21:46] schestowitz[TR2] or social control 'media' [21:49] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/27/comcast-tells-couple-theyll-need-to-pay-27119-to-get-home-internet-even-though-the-rest-of-their-block-is-wired-for-it/ [21:49] TR Bot Comcast tells couple theyll need to pay $27,119 to get Home Internet even though the rest of their block is wired for it. BaronHK's Rants [21:49] DaemonFC "I tried to escape Comcast for a while with T-Mobile 5G Home Internet and that was amazingly shittier. About the only upside was that the landlord couldnt run over anything with a lawnmower while I was on vacation and knock me offline again. [21:49] DaemonFC The downside was that T-Mobiles Home Internet modems can hardly ever lock on to a decent signal and mostly just overheat and crash and die completely every few months and make you perform effort to send one back to the T-Mobile shit bin like it was a launch XBOX 360." [21:49] schestowitz[TR2] twitter is littered with football gossip [21:53] DaemonFC "Thanks to modern Web browsers like Firefox and Chrome, they even get to see whats on your mind if you change your mind before you finish typing it. Awsome bars and Omni boxes and Firefox Suggest." [21:53] DaemonFC "Its literally the thought police unless you opt out for a browser thats still Free Software, such as LibreWolf, SeaMonkey, or GNOME Web. Or use Tor for more privacy. [21:53] DaemonFC Then, they know most people will dive right in to social media and tell them openly whats on their mind. They like that too." [21:53] DaemonFC "Apps are, of course, much worse. At the bottom of it all, they have Comcast and Cloudflare logging stuff and helping them compile dossiers about citizens. [21:53] DaemonFC They waited for things to finally get this bad and then declared the Internet to be essential to daily life. That was not a mistake." [21:53] MinceR 27 222830 < bnchs> burgerland ISP i guess [21:53] MinceR Burgenland, Austria? [21:55] bnchs nah, burgerland [21:55] schestowitz[TR2] well, I could phone the cops [21:55] bnchs slang for america [21:55] schestowitz[TR2] and say I saw excessive violence [21:55] schestowitz[TR2] by the cops so that they let me know what this was all about [21:55] schestowitz[TR2] but then I too get on their list, so not a good idea [21:55] schestowitz[TR2] but I think they ended up raiding the home that sometimes plays loud music at 4am [21:55] schestowitz[TR2] so good riddance [21:56] MinceR https://apina.biz/190282.png?mode=sfw [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190282.png ● Jul 27 [22:02] DaemonFC frg_AwayDid they do news.mozilla.org finally in? [22:02] DaemonFC |<--therube has left libera.chat (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:02] DaemonFC BaronHKProbably Mitchell Baker outsourcing everything to MICROS~1 and GULAG so she can up her pay another half million dollars a year and fire another 500. [22:02] DaemonFC BaronHKIt's been coming for years, everything from the non-apology for Web DRM to "everyone uses GMail anyway, so to hell with Thunderbird." (paraphrase) [22:02] DaemonFC BaronHKI think they went to GULAG something-or-other for their newsgroups, and it's not standard NNTP anymore, no. [22:02] DaemonFC BaronHKAnd they've been outsourcing to MICROS~1 GitHub too, where things go to disappear in the middle of the night. [22:02] DaemonFC BaronHKPart of Microsoft's concern trolling open source in general is you need GitHub because "e-mail is hard" and their attack on Mozilla in particular has been numerous, although my favorite is the repeated "Just kill off Gecko and use Chromium already....we'll pay you graft money to be a 'research organization' with us at the head of the table, like the Linux Destroying Foundation.". [22:02] DaemonFC BaronHKMozilla is definitely going that way. The Organization gets an F from Charity Navigator and spends less than 60% of their budget on software development according to the IRS filings. Linux Destroying Foundation only spends 4% so that's much, much worse. [22:02] schestowitz[TR2] I should have taken a camera with me [22:02] schestowitz[TR2] too late now [22:02] DaemonFC (From #SeaMonkey on Libera Chat) [22:02] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:03] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: did they ban you? [22:03] DaemonFC No. [22:03] DaemonFC Well, #politics did. [22:04] DaemonFC Monkeypox came up you know. [22:04] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: if there is a mjor incident near you, what's the best way to find out what it was about? [22:04] DaemonFC Stuff happened. [22:04] schestowitz[TR2] mokey see, money pox [22:04] DaemonFC I usually just doomscroll Facebook. WGN will copypasta it eventually. [22:04] schestowitz[TR2] I tried in twitter [22:04] schestowitz[TR2] nothing [22:04] schestowitz[TR2] waste of time [22:04] schestowitz[TR2] tghe cops have all mostly left [22:05] schestowitz[TR2] and there were like 100 people outside, about 30 cops (at least) at one point [22:05] DaemonFC For the day to day "shenanigans" of the local proletariat, I just skim Lake McHenry Scanner. That's for the car thefts+crashes, armed robberies, WAUKEGAN MAN stories..... [22:05] DaemonFC WAUKEGAN MAN threatens to kill entire family with knife for eating his pizza! [22:05] DaemonFC WAUKEGAN MAN causes seven car pile up during high speed police chase in stolen Buick. (Not me, I swear!) [22:06] DaemonFC WAUKEGAN MAN trespasses at funeral home, rapes 9 year old, DEMOCRAT JUDGE lets him go. [22:06] DaemonFC WAUKEGAN MAN shoots and kills people at Gas Stop again. (Different WAUKEGAN MAN and different victims, always Gas Stop) [22:07] schestowitz[TR2] internet is useless for these things [22:07] schestowitz[TR2] and I don't want to ask the cops as then I can become person of interest [22:07] DaemonFC GURNEE WOMAN tells officer to fuck himself, runs over officer's foot. [22:08] DaemonFC Every time you hear about WAUKEGAN MAN, like 90% of the time they're black and when it ends with "The judge didn't do anything." that's like 100%. You can look at the LakeMcHenryScanner. [22:08] DaemonFC They post mugshots. [22:08] DaemonFC Unlike WGN, which usually delays delays, only posts the mugshot if charges are filed, unless the guy's white and then they do it right away. [22:09] DaemonFC Like, WGN will delay until there's at least an indictment if they're black, but if it's a white guy felony story, it's up as soon as there's an arrest. [22:10] DaemonFC They do this actively because they don't want protests outside their building, which is in Chicago. [22:10] schestowitz[TR2] I thought there was a way to limit twitter search by geolocation [22:10] schestowitz[TR2] cannot find it now [22:10] schestowitz[TR2] and anyway tweets are not reliable either [22:10] DaemonFC Stallman says "either capitalize both or neither" when talking about white and black people. [22:11] DaemonFC I think he would at least agree with me that if WGN is withholding some mugshots until there's an indictment, they should apply that policy overall. [22:11] DaemonFC NewsNation is their parent company. [22:11] DaemonFC And they just hired Chris Cuomo. [22:11] DaemonFC :) [22:11] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]I thought there was a way to limit twitter search by geolocation [22:12] DaemonFC I don't browse Twitter directly because it is a pile of JavaScript that demands you log in just to read it. [22:12] DaemonFC At least Matthew J. GULAG is limiting the reach of his conversations that way. [22:12] DaemonFC You only see the most recent 5 or so and can't view any of the comments. [22:13] DaemonFC Most of them were from MSMiguel and co. anyway. [22:13] Ariadne man youre amped up today [22:14] DaemonFC At least until he "departed" and runs silent, runs deep, except for the occasional blog post about why and how Apple's store should be even worse than it is now. [22:14] DaemonFC Whenever mjg59_ and pals start a conversation it's about how to make computing an even bigger Hell on Earth for the users than it is now and how to prop up Microsoft and Apple. [22:17] DaemonFC I got a huge kick from reading a blog post from a Vivaldi developer about all the work to maintain it. Like almost all the work is to keep it from falling over every time Google bumps something in Chromium. And in Chromium-speak, 8 weeks for the rendering engine is "Long Term Stable" now. [22:17] DaemonFC schestowitz This is LTS, we support it for 8 entire weeks. If you try to use it longer than that, something from Fakebook or Shitter will definitely start going haywire. [22:18] DaemonFC :) [22:18] MinceR :> [22:19] DaemonFC Gecko 78 no longer works on Fakebook. [22:19] DaemonFC To get text entry working again, I had to tell Fakebook I was Opera 12.18, although I amused myself by saying it runs on Windows 11. [22:20] DaemonFC The Safari Mobile UA works, but then Messenger redirects to Apple, and copy/paste is prevented with a JavaScript. [22:20] DaemonFC Safari Desktop just changes the font and CSS to look more "Mac-like" and text entry boxes are still broken. BARF. [22:21] DaemonFC Internet Explorer 11 results in m.facebook, but then it blows everything up and looks completely ridiculous. [22:21] DaemonFC So I decided Opera 12.18 so I get mobile and no-JS. [22:21] DaemonFC It looks like I loaded a blackberryOS browser Web site on SeaMonkey, but it works okay. [22:33] schestowitz[TR2] no gunshots, no ambulance [22:33] schestowitz[TR2] hopefully just violence and crowd control [22:34] schestowitz[TR2] silent nearly an hour in vain trying to figure out what it was all about [22:34] bnchs DaemonFC: using the user agent technology [22:34] schestowitz[TR2] there's not a single person outside now [22:34] MinceR "this is not war, this is pest control!" [22:34] bnchs we can figure out how to make your experience worse or better depending on what you use! [22:34] bnchs presented by facebook [22:34] schestowitz[TR2] I wish I recorded that officer pushing and punching the man who showed no resistance [22:34] schestowitz[TR2] punched hiom in the guy though, not the head [22:34] schestowitz[TR2] *gut [22:36] MinceR (no audio) https://apina.biz/167270.mp4?mode=sfw [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/167270.mp4 [22:37] schestowitz[TR2] I decided to do the response to Linux blocked by Microsoft in text only [22:37] schestowitz[TR2] for video I have an argent EPO story [22:37] *MinceR extracts some Argent Energy from it [22:41] DaemonFC schestowitz They probably know how best to do it so it doesn't show up on an x-ray later. [22:41] schestowitz[TR2] he kept cursing at them after they did it to him [22:41] schestowitz[TR2] I was a witness [22:41] schestowitz[TR2] but don't have hard proof [22:41] schestowitz[TR2] their word against mine [22:42] schestowitz[TR2] and I don't want to get involved with lying thugs [22:42] schestowitz[TR2] I guess those cops get a thrill randomly hitting people [22:42] schestowitz[TR2] never to be held accountable for it [22:43] DaemonFC You know, everyone knows what they are. [22:44] DaemonFC Yet, whenever I say that they lied to frame me up, everyone says "Well, the police said it, so gospel truth!". [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 27 [23:05] schestowitz[TR2] yeash [23:06] schestowitz[TR2] but if you film them from your own home [23:06] schestowitz[TR2] they can cause you trouble [23:06] schestowitz[TR2] one ay or another [23:06] schestowitz[TR2] to steal the phone or frame you [23:06] schestowitz[TR2] so you need to do it quietly [23:06] schestowitz[TR2] too late now [23:06] schestowitz[TR2] I probably didn't have neough time to bring a portable camera anyway [23:07] schestowitz[TR2] ok, recordedd 2 videos [23:07] schestowitz[TR2] now the text [23:10] DaemonFC Yeah, like showing up to my car accident 45 minutes later and letting two black felons (child molester who participated in a prison riot) who were committing parole violation, and gave them their real names, no IDs, no car insurance, go. [23:10] DaemonFC Then pinned the accident and ticket on me. [23:11] DaemonFC I'm sure they did it because the cops probably figured out who would pay the ticket and which one would just add it to the $60,000 they already owed the court anyway and disappear. [23:11] DaemonFC :) [23:11] DaemonFC Of course, I hired a lawyer and fought it off so my insurance wouldn't go up. [23:12] DaemonFC You actually just get rewarded for stiffing the court, ignoring the judge's prior rulings, evading your probation officer, and being black. [23:12] DaemonFC Roughly in that order. At least in this state. [23:13] DaemonFC It's like they give up dealing with them. [23:13] DaemonFC They can't get their money because they don't do anything legal for money anyway and just pay for everything in cash and don't file taxes. [23:14] DaemonFC Even if there was a tax return to intercept, the state has to figure out in which order to pay the $60,000 in court debt and all of the child support. [23:14] DaemonFC So it's no longer worth fucking with them at all. [23:14] DaemonFC Find yourself a nice white guy who doesn't cause trouble and will almost certainly just drop a check in the mail. [23:14] DaemonFC Ticket him! [23:15] DaemonFC A very white way to think about tax cheats is they have no earnings record in Social Security. [23:15] DaemonFC But you have to live to be like 68 for that to matter anyway. [23:15] MinceR https://apina.biz/95679.jpg?mode=sfw [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/95679.jpg [23:17] DaemonFC Drug dealers and people on the downlow, no access to health care, living on ramen. [23:17] DaemonFC Not too many are going to be 68. [23:18] DaemonFC The lifetime cost to society of dealing with one armed habitual criminal can be over $2.5 million dollars. Which is more than they're ever going to pay in taxes. [23:19] DaemonFC Which is WAY more than one person who gets on Social Security will cost in 15 years. [23:20] DaemonFC The cops repeatedly bust them and put the taxpayers through the expense of trials and juries and prisons and prison healthcare to deal with their AIDS and chemo and stuff. [23:20] DaemonFC Not cheap! [23:20] DaemonFC It's unbelievable what we spend on prison dealing with these folks, and people wonder why there's no Mag-Lev trains in the United States. [23:21] DaemonFC I saw a video of a carjacking in Johannesburg, and someone just driving around and all the trash and shit floating around, bars on the store windows. [23:21] DaemonFC Looked exactly like Chicago. [23:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:23] DaemonFC It would be for the best if people just fled the cities again and let them fail, and passed laws AGAINST having to prop them up. They're a cancer. An absolute cancer. [23:23] DaemonFC Stallman says people should just continue pouring into violent cities to use the public transit. [23:23] DaemonFC I don't know. Get the violence under control, make the cost of living reasonable, I might. Won't happen. [23:24] DaemonFC If nobody's figured out how to do it in Chicago yet, they won't. [23:24] DaemonFC Lightfoot thinks paying "some" people $500 a month for not doing anything is the answer. [23:25] DaemonFC You could give out $1,000 per day they manage not to kill or rape anything, and you'd still have a violent city of filth and drugs and carjackings. [23:25] DaemonFC The $500 a month is not to all poor people, and it ends after like a year. It's a CARES Act thing, and there won't be more money for it because the Republicans are going to take over Congress. [23:26] DaemonFC But even if EVERYONE under, say, $60,000 a year got $500 a month from the city just for living there, I wouldn't. [23:26] DaemonFC Why? Because moving into the city would add $1,200 a month to our expenses. :) [23:27] DaemonFC And then I'd have to deal with the carjackers who rape and murder and plunder and set things on fire and take whatever they want. [23:27] DaemonFC While the police watch and are not allowed to do anything. [23:27] DaemonFC schestowitz Your sister lives in Portland. I'm sorry. [23:27] DaemonFC I hear it's worse there. [23:27] schestowitz[TR2] she plans to leave [23:28] schestowitz[TR2] I still don't know what happened here two hours ago [23:28] schestowitz[TR2] lots of commotation [23:28] schestowitz[TR2] people shouting [23:28] schestowitz[TR2] then llke 30-40 cops come [23:28] schestowitz[TR2] arrest people [23:28] DaemonFC The carjackers will jack anything that runs. Absolutely anything. [23:28] schestowitz[TR2] no ambulance in sight, just lots of police cars and vans [23:29] DaemonFC I mean, who steals a 2010 Impala? Honestly! [23:29] DaemonFC It's the same crime to boost a nice car! [23:29] schestowitz[TR2] lots of kids around, maybe under 15 [23:29] schestowitz[TR2] I thought I heard someone banging on doors [23:29] schestowitz[TR2] or cars [23:30] DaemonFC I take it you're amused like people aren't being murdered everywhere. [23:30] DaemonFC Like you don't drive past 3-4 murder investigations per week in your city? [23:30] schestowitz[TR2] in the US there would be gunshots most likely [23:30] schestowitz[TR2] as many of those involved can carry firearms [23:30] DaemonFC Usually, if you get whacked here you were a street thug anyway. [23:30] DaemonFC Or were dumb enough to REALLY piss one off at you. [23:30] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]as many of those involved can carry firearms [23:31] DaemonFC No they can't. The FOID Act says they can't! [23:31] DaemonFC Stop lying! [23:31] DaemonFC ;) [23:31] DaemonFC THERE IS NO GUN CRIME HERE! NONE! NYET!!!! [23:31] DaemonFC The FOID Act prevents 103% of all gun crime. [23:32] DaemonFC It's so effective after the last round of amendments that they have a FOID Act time machine that goes back and prevents historical gun crimes too now. [23:32] DaemonFC But it's not very efficient yet. That's the extra 3%. [23:32] DaemonFC The Democrats are like, super smart,. [23:32] schestowitz[TR2] can you read my drfat pls? [23:32] DaemonFC Over there blowing each other for amending the FOID Act. [23:32] DaemonFC While things get yet worse. [23:32] schestowitz[TR2] thyen I rite about 'secure' bot [23:33] DaemonFC Yeah. [23:33] schestowitz[TR2] if I can type reight lol [23:34] DaemonFC How can anyone look at the incredibly stupid shit the Democrats have passed as gun control in a state where none of their ideas are even contested, and say it's working? [23:34] DaemonFC Stallman does. He's on something. [23:34] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/epo-for-sale/ [23:34] TR Bot Banana EPO: Montenegro, With Population 134 Times Smaller Than Germanys, Will Get a Vote as Powerful as Germanys | Techrights [23:34] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: draft [23:34] schestowitz[TR2] I'll start encoding the uefi secure boot video [23:35] DaemonFC The State Police told me my new FOID card still expires on a certain date, but the new one won't tell you when it expires. [23:35] DaemonFC I said, "Oh wow, that sounds like an improvement. You won't look at it and remember to renew it and then they'll get you for EXPIRED FOID.". [23:36] MinceR "nyet"? [23:37] DaemonFC "tis coup" [23:37] DaemonFC tis a lovely day for a coup! [23:37] DaemonFC tis it not? [23:37] DaemonFC :D [23:38] MinceR https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0709028/quotes/qt0941471 [23:38] DaemonFC "If not longer" [23:38] TR Bot SG-1" 1969 (TV Episode 1999) - Quotes - IMDb [23:38] DaemonFC Missing full stop. [23:39] DaemonFC Technical foul! Pay the court a fine, criminal scum! [23:39] britney stargate is awesome [23:40] DaemonFC "Nyet!?" [23:45] MinceR indeed [23:45] TR News Banana EPO: Montenegro, With Population 134 Times Smaller Than Germanys, Will Get a Vote as Powerful as Germanys | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/epo-for-sale/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/27/epo-for-sale/ [23:46] britney "I'm your worst nightmare" -esr [23:46] DaemonFC "Americans don't know anything about democracy. Wyoming will get more votes per capita than California." [23:47] DaemonFC I love Europe. They pretend at being Very Stable Democracies. [23:47] britney I watched "the code" and it was really bad [23:47] DaemonFC Especially the monarchists and Orbanistan. [23:47] britney Revolution OS is much better [23:47] DaemonFC Europe won't be stable much longer without the Russian gas and oil. [23:48] DaemonFC They turned Russia into a petrostate and now they're surprised there's consequences, and so soon! [23:51] britney its pretty funny that Stallman was against passwords, passwords was a conspiracy [23:51] DaemonFC schestowitz The state was sending people FOID cards with other people's pictures on them. [23:52] DaemonFC That was last year. They had to shut it down after sending out thousands like that. [23:53] schestowitz[TR2] "who did you get? who did you get? who did you get?" [23:53] DaemonFC :) [23:55] TR News [Meme] Voting Fodder and Faking Concern for the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/27/fake-concern-for-the-epc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/27/fake-concern-for-the-epc/ [23:55] TR Bot [Meme] Voting Fodder and Faking Concern for the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights [23:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights