Join us now at the IRC channel.
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/09/de35966b49902ccd.mp4 | Aug 27 00:22 |
|---|---|---|
| DaemonFC[m] | Green onions have been fluctuating in price lately. | Aug 27 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Between 50 cents and $1 at Walmart. | Aug 27 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So last time it hit 50 cents for a bunch I ordered 10 bunches that week and cut them up and froze them. | Aug 27 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Throwing them in soup is usually what I do. It's so hot it thaws them right back out. | Aug 27 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "City of Austin offers shelter for evacuees from coastal communities" | Aug 27 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Big mistake. Houston did that after Katrina and they got a bunch of, well, Louisiana people and their crime never did go back down. | Aug 27 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mom asked me if Louisiana was poor. I said, "Oh yeah, they're poor as hell down there....mostly.". | Aug 27 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She was born there but they left in 1962, so. | Aug 27 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told her, "With all of the unemployment, big business is taking advantage of the situation to cut wages for the poorest workers by an average of 10%. I'm very glad that Illinois passed a $15 minimum wage that is still phasing in, with 0 Republican votes and not allowing them to 'debate' anything. If we hadn't, then they'd be doing that shit here too, even when they don't have to.". | Aug 27 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even as they pay their CEOs millions and give them 50% raises on the way to the bankruptcy courts to screw all their creditors, like Trump does. | Aug 27 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's only a crime to troll the bankruptcy court if you aren't rich. | Aug 27 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/26/us-russia-armoured-car-injuries-soldiers-syria | Aug 27 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump tried to suppress this news, but a Russian armored car rammed an American one, and the US military, on Trump's standing orders, fled like cowards, while Trump eventually cried that his buddy Vlad didn't hold up their side of a "non-aggression pact". | Aug 27 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | History shows that those tend to be stable and are usually upheld by both sides. /s | Aug 27 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | US alleges Russian armoured car rammed American vehicle, injuring soldiers | US news | The Guardian | Aug 27 01:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The UK has had their share of blunders. They try to act like the US was the only one that wanted to pretend Hitler was not a national concern to them. | Aug 27 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler and then, like the Russians, were shocked that Hitler started bombing the shit out of them. Would have invaded by land had it been possible. | Aug 27 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Well, he hasn't done anything to us yet." are usually the famous last words. | Aug 27 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | “We will avoid a direct hit but that doesn’t mean that we’re avoiding potential consequences like power outages or the impacts of wind,” she said at a Houston news conference. | Aug 27 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the worst thing that will happen to Texas now is having thousands of people from Louisiana that you invited over. | Aug 27 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To destroy your hotel rooms and shit on your sidewalks and mug and rape. | Aug 27 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: They're right. Trump has burned me out on caring about anyone who voted for him. | Aug 27 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I heard about this storm but then when I saw where it would hit I was like "Good! Fuck em!". | Aug 27 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If we're lucky, the sea will open up and take them all. | Aug 27 01:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 27 01:13 |
| MinceR | it would take more than that to get most of the christian fundamentalists on the planet | Aug 27 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The first Louisiana Parish (county) that is in the way of the storm is 90% Trump in the last election. | Aug 27 01:14 |
| MinceR | or even in uhmerica | Aug 27 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's going to completely obliterate that entire Parish. | Aug 27 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably nobody in that entire place will have a house to go back to. | Aug 27 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: This thing could not be aimed more perfectly to bowl over the most Trump-voting counties in Louisiana. | Aug 27 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It completely misses the larger cities for the most part. | Aug 27 01:15 |
| MinceR | again, don't count your chickens until they're hatched | Aug 27 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It'll bowl over these sons of bitches and then Republicans will be screaming for a disaster relief bill because it's their voters. | Aug 27 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then Nancy says, "Yeah, about that Coronavirus bill we passed last month.". | Aug 27 01:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 27 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I might be as racist as my parents, kind of. | Aug 27 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told my mom "Well, it was food pantry day and they tossed out the fresh vegetables already. A whole sack of potatoes and a bunch of other stuff in the trash.". | Aug 27 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She goes, "Yeah, because they're too dumb to cook a potato and it wasn't a gift card to McDonalds." | Aug 27 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Yeah, they're in there living off of the Fruit by the Foot.". | Aug 27 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good times, bad times, there's always people who want something just because they're here. | Aug 27 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they make it a race thing or something so they can play the victim card forever. | Aug 27 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hurricane Laura now has maximum sustained winds of 150 mph -CNN | Aug 27 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LAURA LAURA LAURA!!! | Aug 27 01:32 |
| MinceR | Tora Tora Tora! | Aug 27 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | YOU CAN DO IT, LAURA! KICK THEIR ASSES!!!! | Aug 27 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/0c831e24-7a62-4075-b55a-75ae22d59ea8.gif | Aug 27 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: They're fucked. | Aug 27 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The wind speed has to hit 157 to be a Category 5 hurricane. | Aug 27 01:35 |
| MinceR | when it hits 88, you're gonna see some serious shit | Aug 27 01:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, old people were furious early this year. | Aug 27 01:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kids started calling COVID-19 the Boomer Remover. | Aug 27 01:38 |
| MinceR | that's Boomer Doomer | Aug 27 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, the food pantry gave me a bunch of potatoes and green beans and a dry rub for pork. | Aug 27 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pork is expensive these days, but chicken isn't. | Aug 27 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm thawing some chicken in the microwave. | Aug 27 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm going to use this rub on it. | Aug 27 01:39 |
| schestowitz | ?? | Aug 27 01:41 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141401 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3b21e53b-aed1-48d9-a0a7-b732268f8066] | Aug 27 01:48 | |
| *gde33 (~gde333@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 01:49 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Andrew Cater: The Debconf20 song http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141262#comment-26248 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ee0616e4-5b8a-40a6-bd96-0d59d4e09983] | Aug 27 01:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It's easy enough to adapt a German Polish joke. | Aug 27 02:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Visit Kenosha. Your car's already there. | Aug 27 02:04 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/sZUQsooEzPTNYcBsQRoMjCuH/message.txt > | Aug 27 02:07 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 27 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Laura is heading for John's mother's house. | Aug 27 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's in the angry purple area. | Aug 27 02:11 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SparkyLinux 2020.08 GameOver, Multimedia and Rescue Editions Are Out Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141395#comment-26249 [https://pleroma.site/objects/586f4759-b7fe-4e0c-a2f7-250245163cc6] | Aug 27 02:18 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141402 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d7f6a1b9-060e-4c7b-a994-a744627e3383] | Aug 27 02:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141403 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b60baeff-144a-4849-8eaf-b9f47213024f] | Aug 27 02:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/26/21402571/kenosha-guard-shooting-facebook-deplatforming-militia-violence | Aug 27 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook takes down ‘call to arms’ event after two shot dead in Kenosha - The Verge | Aug 27 02:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook Group used by violent right-wing militia to commit terrorism and murder in Wisconsin. | Aug 27 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One of them was caught in Illinois and faces first degree murder charges in Wisconsin. | Aug 27 02:37 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Wine-Mono, GOG Hacking, Steam and Nimbatus http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141404 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e3a7ffbb-6e98-4b63-bb0b-aa959ee33673] | Aug 27 02:40 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OpenZFS Support Merged Into Mainline FreeBSD and OpenZFS 2.0-RC1 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141405 [https://pleroma.site/objects/489b4d76-f9aa-4380-b471-24439b68f8d7] | Aug 27 02:49 | |
| *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrikcehofvzqtfqs) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 02:50 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I declared Basic Attention Tokens as an asset on my bankruptcy schedules. | Aug 27 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder if that's ever happened before. | Aug 27 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The IRS says only about 800 people in the entire country ever declare cryptocurrency on their taxes. | Aug 27 02:51 |
| MinceR | and how many BATs did your creditors take? :> | Aug 27 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | None. | Aug 27 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I only had 3 cents worth. | Aug 27 02:56 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kubernetes 1.19: Accentuate the Paw-sitive http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141406 [https://pleroma.site/objects/da05b95b-e06c-4a10-9801-326c6db3090e] | Aug 27 02:56 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I put it on there in case I was the first bankruptcy filer in the US to name BAT as an asset. | Aug 27 02:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 27 02:57 |
| MinceR | were you? | Aug 27 02:57 |
| *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Aug 27 02:58 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | No way of telling, but if all but 800 people per year hide their crypto from the IRS, then who would ever mention BATs specifically in a bankruptcy? | Aug 27 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Especially since Brave only has like 3-4 million US users. | Aug 27 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's certainly less popular than cryptocurrrency that you can mine. | Aug 27 03:00 |
| schestowitz | With 1,300 #covid19 deaths again (in a day) US seems destined to pass Italy and Sweden soon, becoming 6th or 5th deadliest in the world | Aug 27 03:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Plus, many people don't use an Uphold account with BAT. | Aug 27 03:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "With 1,300 #covid19 deaths again"> Yep, I told you there was a lot more dead wood for this thing to kill. | Aug 27 03:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's heavily stacked in regions and individuals who say it's 5G towers or a plot to make Trump look bad. | Aug 27 03:03 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Gallium3D, hipSYCL and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141407 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7a7d7451-6cdb-491e-8945-73803bdfef90] | Aug 27 03:07 | |
| MinceR | what's an uphold account? | Aug 27 03:07 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Microsoft Infiltrating Linux Foundation and Linux Foundation Deletes GNU From History http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141408 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3d6e5b25-deab-4501-ae5e-d5208dcf67cc] | Aug 27 03:09 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: A crypto wallet. | Aug 27 03:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Technically you can convert BATs to USD and send them to a bank account. | Aug 27 03:10 |
| MinceR | technically? | Aug 27 03:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a process. | Aug 27 03:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 27 03:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You have to verify the account with a picture of your driver's license and then if you want to cash it out, they collect your Social Security Number and bank account number. | Aug 27 03:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because if you cash out more than $600 worth in a year, they have to tell the IRS with a 1099-MISC. | Aug 27 03:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The 2020 1040 tax form asks if you have any cryptocurrency. | Aug 27 03:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm going to sit on this and let Maricel say no. | Aug 27 03:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I'm going to file an anonymous report with the IRS saying "She has cryptocurrency and here's the hash value of her account at this exchange. She has failed to pay taxes, she committed perjury, and she didn't report income.". | Aug 27 03:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It's funnier if I wait to do this until next year. | Aug 27 03:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If she lied this year it would be failure to report income and failure to pay taxes, but not perjury, since there was no question about cryptocurrency. | Aug 27 03:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If she checks NO and signs it, it's perjury too. | Aug 27 03:14 |
| MinceR | how do you know the hash value of their account? | Aug 27 03:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because she created one for Mandy and was transferring funds between wallets. | Aug 27 03:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh yeah, "She is evading reporting requirements by using multiple accounts in other people's names with the intent to deceive and defraud the IRS.". | Aug 27 03:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 27 03:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: CC it to the State of Illinois Department of Revenue. | Aug 27 03:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One or both could go after her. | Aug 27 03:16 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141409 [https://pleroma.site/objects/49efda93-524d-4a81-8c6e-87591bd21efb] | Aug 27 03:17 | |
| *brendyyn (~brendyyn@14.2.150.205) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 03:17 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Lying on a tax form gets you into trouble in so many ways if it was deliberate. | Aug 27 03:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll get you for three offenses, 2 felonies, and 1 misdemeanor, if they pursue it, over the same incident. | Aug 27 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Failure to disclose income and failure to pay taxes are felonies. | Aug 27 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Perjury is a misdemeanor . | Aug 27 03:18 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What is the KDE Project and Community? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141410 [https://pleroma.site/objects/52437a06-387d-4203-bb62-5587dc0600dc] | Aug 27 03:19 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The misdemeanor is something they can just go ahead and charge you with, without asking a grand jury. | Aug 27 03:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you face more than a year in jail, they have to have a grand jury. If you face more than 6 months on a misdemeanor, they have to let you have a jury trial. If you face even 1 day in jail, you probably have the right to a public defender if you qualify on income. | Aug 27 03:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I would highly advise asking for at least the public defender if you can't afford your own lawyer. | Aug 27 03:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The law is ridiculously complex and the odds of successfully representing yourself in court are virtually nil. | Aug 27 03:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Before the Gideon case, the state could put you on trial for murder and seek the death sentence and you weren't guaranteed a lawyer. | Aug 27 03:22 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Screencasts and Audiocasts: Bluestar Linux 5.8.3, FLOSS Weekly, Destination Linux, Unfettered Freedom and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141411 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d2f536ec-0f96-48c7-863f-8ec5a60287be] | Aug 27 03:22 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've been watching some cases from the news here in Lake County. | Aug 27 03:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mike Nerheim usually folds like a cheap card table once it gets to court. | Aug 27 03:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Thomas Keller. | Aug 27 03:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I'd be tempted to go sit in the gallery for that one if COVID-19 wasn't causing the courtrooms to be closed to the public. | Aug 27 03:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of the proceedings aren't intelligible even if you're in the courtroom. | Aug 27 03:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The lawyers will go talk to the judge and she'll turn the microphone off. | Aug 27 03:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You hear them read the charges and whether they say guilty or not, and that's about it. | Aug 27 03:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I just love all of this freedom and democracy. | Aug 27 03:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Our government is so open and transparent. | Aug 27 03:26 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 27 03:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My bankruptcy attorney coached me for the deposition. | Aug 27 03:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She ran down all the questions the trustee might ask. It's really hard to draw attention with the amount of cases they go through. | Aug 27 03:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the only one he stopped and questioned were the people who said they had no clothes. | Aug 27 03:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I wonder how Falwell Jr. found two poolboys to fuck his wife while he watched. | Aug 27 03:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've seen pictures of the two. They could certainly do better than her. | Aug 27 03:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe he paid them. With all of that Liberty University money they accrued from fining students under the morals code. | Aug 27 03:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or maybe they're just guys. Take it where you can get it. | Aug 27 03:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We've all had moments we're not particularly proud of. | Aug 27 03:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure Falwell Jr. will say that having them "come" forward is a dastardly plot to get rid of him. | Aug 27 03:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone around Trump either goes to prison or at least ends up in an ethics scandal. | Aug 27 03:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What kind of a pervert enjoys watching someone else fuck his wife? | Aug 27 03:32 |
| MinceR | people aren't totally ignoring ethics yet? | Aug 27 03:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, I'm the kind of person where I'd kill them with my bare hands if I walked in on that. | Aug 27 03:33 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE’s Volker Krause on Virtual Conference Setup Details and Latest KDE GSoC Report http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141412 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c6b264cd-808f-4c3c-a355-9e121c2091fc] | Aug 27 03:33 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: So riddle me this. The CDC says the odds of catching COVID-19 on an airplane are low. | Aug 27 03:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The flu is less contagious, but both times I've flown, I got the flu right after I got home (from the plane, probably). | Aug 27 03:34 |
| *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Aug 27 03:34 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | So how is COVID-19 on a plane low risk? | Aug 27 03:34 |
| *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-173-175.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 03:35 | |
| MinceR | perhaps they spread under different circumstances, but i doubt the CDC knows that already | Aug 27 03:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government doesn't want to bail out the airlines again and they're willing to risk you to see that they don't. | Aug 27 03:35 |
| MinceR | perhaps they're implying different conditions | Aug 27 03:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The CDC doesn't seem to know a hell of a lot more than the WHO. | Aug 27 03:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is odd since they have millions of known cases over the last 8 months to study from. | Aug 27 03:36 |
| MinceR | you're thinking "probability of catching COVID-19 on an airplane _if_ flying" and they're thinking "probability of catching COVID-19 on an airplane in general" | Aug 27 03:36 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: Bpytop, Session, cryptsetup-suspend and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141413 [https://pleroma.site/objects/03711757-2b2f-4ab1-8979-3c6d0ad2b7f8] | Aug 27 03:36 | |
| MinceR | if i'm not likely to fly on an airplane at all, i won't catch COVID-19 on it | Aug 27 03:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I wouldn't get on an airplane even for $20 round trip fare, which is a thing now. | Aug 27 03:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I could fly from Kenosha to Fort Wayne to go see my mom. Like 15 minutes in the air. For like $16 round trip. | Aug 27 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I go down to Indiana, I'd rather spend 5.5 hours driving. | Aug 27 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good answer. | Aug 27 03:37 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SUSE: Kubernetes 1.19.0 and SUSE Digital Partner Summit http://www.tuxmachiSUSE: Kubernetes 1.19.0 and SUSE Digital Partner Summit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141414nes.org/node/141414 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7a83bfe3-ec96-4349-ab6c-7209f4abf11d] | Aug 27 03:44 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/26/21403432/fda-authorizes-binaxnow-covid-19-test-abbott-cheap-fast | Aug 27 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | FDA authorizes Abbott’s fast $5 COVID-19 test - The Verge | Aug 27 03:45 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | A $5 test.* | Aug 27 03:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *$300 doctor visit required | Aug 27 03:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Aug 27 03:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Only your doctor can tell you what 1 line or 2 lines means. | Aug 27 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you could do them at home, people would just keep the results to themselves if they were positive, and the government wouldn't know. | Aug 27 03:46 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Devices: Librem 5, Nexcom, Raspberry Pi Zero W, Arduino Due http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141415 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ba012162-e968-417c-b0a2-25add2412a4b] | Aug 27 03:46 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | So there's not going to be any of that, despite the fact that the government wouldn't do anything useful with the information anyway. | Aug 27 03:46 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141416 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1a5891fa-e22d-4e03-9e8f-bdcc22e5aaa2] | Aug 27 03:48 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat, IBM and Fedora: JIT, Kubernetes and Btrfs in Fedora 33 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141417 [https://pleroma.site/objects/93643d6a-4483-4c4b-a5b8-76d4abfc139c] | Aug 27 03:51 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: C++, R, Swift and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141418 [https://pleroma.site/objects/75817f47-bfa0-4f8f-ae2f-f0e1f9b752b3] | Aug 27 03:53 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | http://iwarg.ddns.net/phoenix/index.php | Aug 27 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iwarg.ddns.net | Phoenix - Chat Like It's 1999 | Aug 27 03:57 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Bright side of LibreOffice and End of GSoC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141419 [https://pleroma.site/objects/66145f71-4670-4e09-8bb0-51793175aaaa] | Aug 27 03:58 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, AOL Instant Messenger was much better than Facebook. | Aug 27 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They could track your AIM messages, sure, but you weren't limited to a particular social platform that tracked you there and showed you ads and allowed right-wing terrorists and murderers to have Facebook Groups calling themselves "Patriots". | Aug 27 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a Purple Facebook plugin for Pidgin, if you absolutely must have a (hopefully otherwise unused) Facebook account. | Aug 27 03:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It sort of brings back some sanity because you don't need to be logged in on a web browser to use it (enabling extra tracking) or have an entire Facebook tab (using 800 MB of RAM, because why not). | Aug 27 04:00 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Leftovers: LWN on Kernel and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141420 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1944ed57-fca9-4455-a342-69d438377a3b] | Aug 27 04:04 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Exploring LibreOffice 7.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141421 [https://pleroma.site/objects/33de9341-b4d9-418f-bacd-05cea31857d8] | Aug 27 04:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Exploring LibreOffice 7.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141421 [https://pleroma.site/objects/91014013-be98-4069-ae4f-e6e15a16b135] | Aug 27 04:06 | |
| *Now talking on #techrights | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| *acer-box (~acer-box@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| *acer-box has quit (Changing host) | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| *acer-box (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 04:18 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 27/8/2020: Kubernetes 1.19, 2020 Linux Kernel History Report, Linux Foundation Board Member From Microsoft Liaises With Microsoft Tim http://techrights.org/2020/08/26/2020-linux-kernel-history-report/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/7659bba4-bee6-4f14-abf6-48656b0160d7] | Aug 27 04:24 | |
| *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 04:29 | |
| *libertybox_ (~schestowi@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 04:29 | |
| *liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 04:32 | |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 04:34 | |
| *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Support Richard Stallman, Jacob Appelbaum, and other good people! | https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/) | Aug 27 05:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu To Try Again In Switching IPTables To Use Nftables Backend http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141422 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0be12290-b309-4c44-b335-c746793220dc] | Aug 27 05:23 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: better avoid FB altogether | Aug 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | not much to be found there of value | Aug 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | If it has real value, it'll be available outside those walled gardens, too | Aug 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: “Is this decision from UKSC an attempt to encourage Forum shopping to English Courts, as now UK has definitely explained that it will not participate to the UPC? The idea of amending UK’s litigation laws so as to become an alternative to the UPC was clearly expressed.” @zoobab http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/08/breaking-uksc-upholds-decision-in.html?showComment=1598461471744#c3579974240182610260 | Aug 27 05:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: UKSC upholds decision in Unwired Planet, confirms English courts have jurisdiction to set global FRAND rates (and much more) - The IPKat | Aug 27 05:33 | |
| *brendyyn has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | Aug 27 05:38 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: PocketBook Color is a More Affordable 6-inch Color eReader http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141423 tuns #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/231a6468-689c-4f33-a061-cb58aa0ee352] | Aug 27 05:47 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.chicagotribune.com/real-estate/ct-re-moving-looting-riots-protests-0826-20200826-ps432obfcbg3jhcinoyn4izbwq-story.html | Aug 27 05:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | Chicagoans ponder moving away to escape downtown looting - Chicago Tribune | Aug 27 05:49 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, everyone else in Chicago has to live with it all the time, assholes. | Aug 27 05:49 |
| schestowitz | the high-level looting is vastly worse | Aug 27 05:50 |
| schestowitz | like 4 trillion dollars | Aug 27 05:50 |
| schestowitz | but go on, rely on oligarchs-owned media | Aug 27 05:50 |
| schestowitz | as you do | Aug 27 05:50 |
| schestowitz | They don't focus on why there are protests | Aug 27 05:50 |
| schestowitz | rather, whether it's partly violent or not | Aug 27 05:50 |
| schestowitz | suits their narrative | Aug 27 05:51 |
| schestowitz | helps divide people based on race | Aug 27 05:51 |
| schestowitz | and distracts from the underlying class injusrice | Aug 27 05:51 |
| schestowitz | anyhoo... | Aug 27 05:51 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: TUXEDO Pulse 14 Launched: AMD-based 1.1Kg Lightweight Linux Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141335#comment-26251 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f7ae8a3b-c0ab-4bec-b21a-e0e994da5a72] | Aug 27 05:55 | |
| *brendyyn (~brendyyn@14.2.150.205) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 05:58 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/future-of-cruising-coronavirus/index.html | Aug 27 06:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cruise trips are back. This is what they look like now | CNN Travel | Aug 27 06:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The risk is still there. The tests are not 100% accurate and temperature checks are bullshit, mostly. | Aug 27 06:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most people have no symptoms, and only about a third with symptoms ever run a feve. | Aug 27 06:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *fever | Aug 27 06:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: READ WITH ME... | Aug 27 06:12 |
| schestowitz | quick... | Aug 27 06:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ | Aug 27 06:12 |
| schestowitz | see if it makes sense | Aug 27 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Warning: Microsoft Tim and Microsoft’s New Mole Inside ‘Linux’ Foundation Board Liaise to Outsource Linux Development to Microsoft’s Proprietary Software Trap | Techrights | Aug 27 06:12 | |
| schestowitz | this really pissed me off when I first saw it | Aug 27 06:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Linus Torvalds fostered his own eventual overthrow. | Aug 27 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember BitKeeper? | Aug 27 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He was angry at Andrew Tridgell for reversing it and causing them to lose their freeware license. | Aug 27 06:17 |
| schestowitz | changes headline to "Warning: Microsoft Tim and Microsoft’s New Mole Inside ‘Linux’ Foundation Board (a Paid-For Seat) Liaise to Outsource Linux Development to Microsoft’s Proprietary Software Trap" | Aug 27 06:17 |
| schestowitz | and added " Those seats at the Linux Foundation are on sale; Microsoft already bought several so as to influence decision-making " | Aug 27 06:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I have also just added your comments | Aug 27 06:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Torvalds didn't even pick a robust solution. It was clear that BitKeeper would be a disaster eventually and we'd lose years or decades of metadata and commit history. | Aug 27 06:19 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | well, he made git | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | then microsoft bought git | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | sort of | Aug 27 06:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Very odd for a man who once quipped "You know you're a genius, but maybe you'd like to remember what you did two weeks from now.". | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | it bought the EEE of git | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | which is what github was | Aug 27 06:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now imagine losing the entire commit log for years. | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | and now it's going proprietary | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | useless how he responded to it | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | if he now complains they'll call him sexist | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | as both his bosses at the board who come from microsoft are female and younger | Aug 27 06:20 |
| schestowitz | so they can say he's just being chauvinistic | Aug 27 06:21 |
| schestowitz | and "hateful" | Aug 27 06:21 |
| schestowitz | this is engineered to gag him | Aug 27 06:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember Zemlin compared criticism of Microsoft to animal torture. | Aug 27 06:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Kicking a puppy." What a role-reversal. Microsoft has destroyed entire companies. Many companies that made better products than them, with illegal actions. | Aug 27 06:22 |
| *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 06:23 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Netscape was fairly reliable until 4 came out. It was rushed so they'd have something. | Aug 27 06:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | EEE led to those ridiculous web/Windows tie ins. Active Desktop was so horrible that the only reason to have it would be to further the claim that IE was integrated. | Aug 27 06:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was a very crude attempt to solve a legality problem with bundling IE, obviously there to confuse judges and jurors. | Aug 27 06:28 |
| psydread | More like "shooting a predator" | Aug 27 06:28 |
| schestowitz | I amended some more to improve clarity | Aug 27 06:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They had an entire KB article called "How to remove Linux and install Windows XP." at one point. | Aug 27 06:31 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Warning: #Microsoft Tim and Microsoft’s New Mole Inside #LinuxFoundation Board (a Paid-For Seat) Liaise to Outsource #Linux Development to Microsoft’s #ProprietarySoftware Trap http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/7282c01b-04c5-46c5-95fe-1fca63fe08f0] | Aug 27 06:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're sure to only mention Linux negatively for 2 decades now, and it's an ongoing problem. | Aug 27 06:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not over. They're the source of all of these fake Linux malware articles. | Aug 27 06:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a coordinated attack to sling mud through seemingly independent media sources who are just throwing misinformation out there, missing facts, for no reason really. | Aug 27 06:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's very naked and obvious and crude, but if you talk about it, you get banned from the Linux subreddit and other places. | Aug 27 06:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One you Get The Facts about Drovorub, it becomes almost comical, because you probably couldn't even install it if you tried, but these pinheads are like "LINUX VIRUS ALERT!!!1111". | Aug 27 06:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It really highlights a good point about Linux when you read about how it gets fixed so fast that there's hardly a point in writing malware to try to exploit the vulnerability. | Aug 27 06:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe part of Drovorub could resurface, as many many Windows worms have, and target something else, but then that gets fixed immediately and on and on. | Aug 27 06:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If proprietary software hides security holes so well, then Windows wouldn't have millions of pieces of malware. You can't write about it except to say it's pervasive and never-ending. | Aug 27 06:37 |
| schestowitz | ok, thanks, DaemonFC[m] | Aug 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz | added those remarks too | Aug 27 06:38 |
| schestowitz | ok, saved | Aug 27 06:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It kind of pisses me off to read this stuff because it used to come from Microsoft and now it's just ghostwritten by them. They're chickenshits. | Aug 27 06:40 |
| schestowitz | eyah | Aug 27 06:40 |
| schestowitz | blackduck also | Aug 27 06:40 |
| schestowitz | they said in their internal docs they'd use proxies | Aug 27 06:40 |
| schestowitz | which is exactly what they do | Aug 27 06:40 |
| schestowitz | lots of this comes through zdnet | Aug 27 06:40 |
| schestowitz | which is where sjvn complained about it | Aug 27 06:41 |
| schestowitz | so wth does he work for them? | Aug 27 06:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pays the bills, until they get rid of him. | Aug 27 06:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Exactly how the rest of the world works. Why would he be special? | Aug 27 06:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There used to be a forum called Walmart Sucks. | Aug 27 06:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were furious that people were logging in and telling what went on at work and complaining about the managers at their stores and stuff. | Aug 27 06:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Leaking internal documents. | Aug 27 06:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they offered the guy a bunch of money for the domain and said we'll sue you and take it if you don't sell it to us. | Aug 27 06:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now, no more forum. | Aug 27 06:43 |
| schestowitz | wow | Aug 27 06:44 |
| schestowitz | based on trademark law | Aug 27 06:44 |
| schestowitz | defamation? | Aug 27 06:44 |
| schestowitz | what law did they leverage? | Aug 27 06:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People I worked with always knew I'd know what policy changes were coming a week before management announced them. So one day I told them about a new pay scale that came down formalizing how much each job was worth over base pay. | Aug 27 06:44 |
| schestowitz | EPO sent lawyers after me several times | Aug 27 06:45 |
| schestowitz | but it never worked | Aug 27 06:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They went to the manager and said "Is this true?". They came to me and wanted to know how I knew. I said, "I just heard it somewhere.". | Aug 27 06:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "based on trademark law"> Yeah. | Aug 27 06:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They may never win but your legal bills for fighting them will be insurmountable. Too much for some guy running a website for ad revenue. | Aug 27 06:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "what law did they leverage?"> Shitstorm of lawyers. | Aug 27 06:46 |
| schestowitz | was the domain name walmarksucks.com? | Aug 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz | It's protected speech | Aug 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz | they'd never win in court | Aug 27 06:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | walmart-sucks.com iirc. | Aug 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz | so I guess the bribe did it | Aug 27 06:47 |
| schestowitz | and the excuse it, "well, they were gonna sue me" | Aug 27 06:48 |
| schestowitz | the domain is OK | Aug 27 06:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, he took the money and signed an NDA and then they just kept the domain. | Aug 27 06:48 |
| schestowitz | nobody will confuse it for thr real thing | Aug 27 06:48 |
| schestowitz | tessier had a similar domain for united airlines, iirc | Aug 27 06:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | American Airlines is the worst that I've been on. | Aug 27 06:48 |
| *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Aug 27 06:49 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not like there's a lot to choose from. | Aug 27 06:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John used to complain about Spirit Airlines passengers. | Aug 27 06:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All their belongings in a trash bag full of bedbugs. | Aug 27 06:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because they'd be from the ghetto and have no luggage. | Aug 27 06:49 |
| *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) | Aug 27 06:49 | |
| schestowitz | sounds like airline for booze on board | Aug 27 06:49 |
| schestowitz | "give me the spirit, darling..." | Aug 27 06:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Southwest gives you soft drinks and peanuts still. | Aug 27 06:50 |
| schestowitz | is there also a "beer airline"? | Aug 27 06:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On Spirit, you have to pay for that. | Aug 27 06:50 |
| schestowitz | wow, that's like... peanuts | Aug 27 06:50 |
| schestowitz | when I was a child you'd get a proper meal on all flights | Aug 27 06:50 |
| schestowitz | even domestic | Aug 27 06:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's also fees on Spirit for having a carry on bag. | Aug 27 06:50 |
| schestowitz | not they compete on price to the point of testing a charge for USING THE YOILET | Aug 27 06:51 |
| schestowitz | *toilet | Aug 27 06:51 |
| schestowitz | yes, extra for bags | Aug 27 06:51 |
| schestowitz | even small ones | Aug 27 06:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, you can just hold it for 4 hours. | Aug 27 06:51 |
| schestowitz | to make the base price misleading | Aug 27 06:51 |
| schestowitz | unless you just take a purse with you to another country | Aug 27 06:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, it looks cheap and then when you're done you pay the same and get the flight attendants from hell. | Aug 27 06:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Richard Stallman even talked about the woman they wouldn't let on with her "emotional support hamster" so she flushed it down and airport toilet. | Aug 27 06:52 |
| schestowitz | f*uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu........... | Aug 27 06:54 |
| schestowitz | pronounced "fah" | Aug 27 06:54 |
| schestowitz | not f.u. | Aug 27 06:54 |
| schestowitz | like they didn't foresee it making a scene and leading to boycotts? | Aug 27 06:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't care. | Aug 27 06:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're the trashiest airline in the world. | Aug 27 06:55 |
| schestowitz | teen spirit | Aug 27 06:55 |
| schestowitz | spiritless | Aug 27 06:55 |
| schestowitz | devil's spirit | Aug 27 06:55 |
| schestowitz | I guess people made all sorts of jokes about the name | Aug 27 06:55 |
| schestowitz | “After #Novell sold out the community, the #LinuxFoundation wants another #Microsoft partner to join up and participate in groups working on legal topics?” –Pamela Jones, #groklaw 2011 http://techrights.org/2011/04/22/novell-sold-out-the-community/ | Aug 27 06:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Groklaw Opposes Novell’s Membership in the Linux Foundation, Due to Microsoft Ties | Techrights | Aug 27 06:57 | |
| schestowitz | She didn't foresee Microsoft would do this directly | Aug 27 06:58 |
| schestowitz | with SEVERAL spots inside the BOARD | Aug 27 06:58 |
| schestowitz | THat was 9 years ago | Aug 27 06:58 |
| schestowitz | [06:43] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #linuxfoundation will kill #linux (or hand it over to #microsoft which will control it via #proprietarySoftware #github ) http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ #torvalds must quit and boycott LF, it's rogue now. Corrupted.... [https://pleroma.site/objects/f516df9a-c5b1-4c2a-a376-0fd7242d3591] | Aug 27 06:58 |
| schestowitz | [06:52] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): I think it's getting closer to the point where it will become NECESSARY for #linux devs to boycott #LinuxFoundation ... in order for Linux to survive. #microsoft knows what it's doing. http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/d10e7354-2e16-43d6-9fed-9a22620c090e] | Aug 27 06:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Warning: Microsoft Tim and Microsoft’s New Mole Inside ‘Linux’ Foundation Board (a Paid-For Seat) Liaise to Outsource Linux Development to Microsoft’s Proprietary Software Trap | Techrights | Aug 27 06:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 27 06:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 27 06:58 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: MatchMiner: An Open-source Computational platform for Clinical Trials Genomic Matching http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141424 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ac0743d8-5b3b-4912-b2dd-ad2fecd2ff20] | Aug 27 07:02 | |
| *tdemin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Aug 27 07:17 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: [Memes] Linux Foundation is a Bribery and Money-Laundering Operation Disguised as ‘Non-Profit’ http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/linux-foundation-is-sold/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/aa5ed79e-a658-4db9-976f-c35f91f45e4a] | Aug 27 07:24 | |
| *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 07:33 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141425 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3253e267-4399-4706-8f34-af0ebb98880d] | Aug 27 07:33 | |
| *obarun (~obarun@host-115-126-165-174.fibre.nautile.nc) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 08:04 | |
| *brendarn (~brendyyn@14.2.167.139) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 08:32 | |
| *brendyyn has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Aug 27 08:34 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kudlow-trump-coronavirus-past-tense-economy-pandemic-1049953/ | Aug 27 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Trump Adviser Larry Kudlow Refers to the Pandemic in the Past Tense - Rolling Stone | Aug 27 08:40 | |
| schestowitz | Wow. | Aug 27 10:07 |
| schestowitz | Zdnet is clearly concerned | Aug 27 10:07 |
| schestowitz | that people call SJVN a sellout | Aug 27 10:07 |
| schestowitz | and foolish | Aug 27 10:08 |
| schestowitz | microsoft apologist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUfGvWr4qP0 | Aug 27 10:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds has no problem with Microsoft - YouTube | Aug 27 10:08 | |
| schestowitz | citing Jo Foley | Aug 27 10:08 |
| schestowitz | he participates in Microsoft psychological op/ads | Aug 27 10:08 |
| *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 10:24 | |
| schestowitz | x https://www.pcworld.com/article/3570263/77-chromebooks-you-shouldnt-buy-why-googles-expiration-dates-matter.html | Aug 27 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beware Chromebook end of life: 77 models to avoid | PCWorld | Aug 27 10:28 | |
| schestowitz | # see instead : https://mrchromebox.tech/ | Aug 27 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MrChromebox.tech | Aug 27 10:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.salon.com/2020/08/26/tituss-burgess-unbreakable-kimmy-schmidt-emmy-salon-talks/ | Aug 27 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Let's get this man out of office": Comic star Tituss Burgess gets serious about politics | Salon.com | Aug 27 10:29 | |
| *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | Aug 27 11:37 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | Aug 27 11:38 | |
| *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | Aug 27 11:38 | |
| *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 11:42 | |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 11:42 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Client Quit) | Aug 27 11:44 | |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 11:45 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/wBs8s8z.jpg | Aug 27 11:47 |
| XRevan86 | imply Swank | Aug 27 11:48 |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Aug 27 12:15 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 12:15 | |
| MinceR | https://waitbutwhy.com/2019/08/story-of-us.html | Aug 27 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-waitbutwhy.com | The Story of Us: Full Series — Wait But Why | Aug 27 12:36 | |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/11/a03bfa216f810aac.jpg | Aug 27 12:47 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 8 Best Free Linux Disk Cloning Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141426 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3650803e-05b8-407f-a3a1-64cea7872d9d] | Aug 27 12:53 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 20.04 Summary for Everyone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141427 [https://pleroma.site/objects/75fe2bc5-740b-465b-95e7-005fb07f18d8] | Aug 27 12:55 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kernel 5.7 Reached End of Life, Upgrade to Linux Kernel 5.8 Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141428 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dd318775-e0d2-45cc-9e10-0224c2d67bba] | Aug 27 12:56 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141429 [https://pleroma.site/objects/87c4f19e-76c4-4cd5-9c22-212d4743cdde] | Aug 27 12:56 | |
| *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 13:02 | |
| *brendarn has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Aug 27 13:26 | |
| scientes | how much is the cheapest short-wave radio kit? | Aug 27 13:47 |
| scientes | maybe I can find one on taobab | Aug 27 13:47 |
| scientes | I wonder if any of the DSP-based radios have source code | Aug 27 14:08 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141430 [https://pleroma.site/objects/470101e2-992f-44c3-8797-fa2c46e37de3] | Aug 27 14:08 | |
| scientes | so you can hack with digital radio | Aug 27 14:08 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/686659.jpg | Aug 27 14:11 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: X4: Foundations, Lovingly Evil, Across the Obelisk and Left 4 Dead 2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141431 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bf76b292-7796-42d5-a0ab-472b600a787d] | Aug 27 14:11 | |
| *oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Aug 27 14:14 | |
| *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 14:15 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has left #techrights | Aug 27 14:34 | |
| *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 14:34 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141432 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3cdc0346-aa81-4ea5-8133-aee2c1187f5a] | Aug 27 15:38 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, the Linux Link Tech Show, Self-Hosted and Ubuntu Podcast http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141433 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b847c79b-d0f1-4db3-ab60-9d4e783183a7] | Aug 27 15:57 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141434 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e234093f-e951-4922-9ecb-354eab441683] | Aug 27 16:00 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #GNU #Linux #Games : #Sonzai , #AssetForge , Relic Hunters Legend http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141435 [https://pleroma.site/objects/365ca2a3-968d-44b9-8da9-15a9fddefe83] | Aug 27 16:09 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/NicholasPegg/status/1298647435829563393 | Aug 27 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NicholasPegg: Can anyone identify the fifth book along on the top shelf? Because apart from that one, top shelf from left to righ… https://t.co/3aj2FPbHLX | Aug 27 16:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NicholasPegg: Can anyone identify the fifth book along on the top shelf? Because apart from that one, top shelf from left to righ… https://t.co/3aj2FPbHLX | Aug 27 16:13 | |
| MinceR | or even https://nitter.net/NicholasPegg/status/1298647435829563393 | Aug 27 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Nicholas Pegg (@NicholasPegg): "Can anyone identify the fifth book along on the top shelf? Because apart from that one, top shelf from left to right goes: The Subtle Knife, Fahrenheit 451, Betrayed, The Resistance, The Toll, Crisis Point, Glass Houses, and The Twits. Supreme trolling from the school librarian." | nitter | Aug 27 16:15 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141436 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9f591dce-844d-42e6-9f75-6577b48ade84] | Aug 27 16:17 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: DRM and Proprietary Problems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141437 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6b25aadf-ff10-423e-9309-a2827553a9cf] | Aug 27 16:20 | |
| kingoffrance | hey now we would kill for that kind of propaganda effort https://twitter.com/ryanjhiggins/status/1281059031038283777?lang=en | Aug 27 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ryanjhiggins: The symbolism of Betsy DeVos having a bookshelf with no books on it 😂😂😂 https://t.co/UMYh8Pv2Nq | Aug 27 16:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ryanjhiggins: The symbolism of Betsy DeVos having a bookshelf with no books on it 😂😂😂 https://t.co/UMYh8Pv2Nq | Aug 27 16:21 | |
| kingoffrance | thats our "education" lol | Aug 27 16:21 |
| kingoffrance | our ppl dont even have to try | Aug 27 16:22 |
| kingoffrance | they are beyond faking it | Aug 27 16:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | zoom in | Aug 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | there might be a webcam | Aug 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | untape it | Aug 27 16:23 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla/Firefox: Tor Browser and Firefox 80 on POWER http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141438 [https://pleroma.site/objects/50271da4-41b0-4d29-a980-62d2421bd0ef] | Aug 27 16:25 | |
| kingoffrance | i see an xkcd graph where "probability person didnt read the book" "prominently displayed" have a direct correlation | Aug 27 16:28 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: DRM-Next, Per Thread Queues and PGO http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141439 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a08562fa-2cc6-43c0-89a4-4473518ab8f7] | Aug 27 16:29 | |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 27 16:30 |
| MinceR | does that mean Betsy DeVos read all the books that exist? | Aug 27 16:30 |
| kingoffrance | yes, cuz its all in teh bible. particularly that one. not the others | Aug 27 16:31 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 27 16:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Jaden264/status/1298989877380263936 | Aug 27 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Jaden264: @janiszewski_q @threadreaderapp Probably more patents BG has his evil fingers in as well... https://t.co/4xS8OUxzXn | Aug 27 16:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1298988651414601731 | Aug 27 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Our friend Ken Starks' story on Zemlin, the Linux Foundation, and the Linux Desktop: The Linux Foundation Views GNU… https://t.co/ZkAj7uagcg | Aug 27 16:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: Our friend Ken Starks' story on Zemlin, the Linux Foundation, and the Linux Desktop: The Linux Foundation Views GNU… https://t.co/ZkAj7uagcg | Aug 27 16:33 | |
| schestowitz | "Our friend Ken Starks' story on Zemlin, the Linux Foundation, and the Linux Desktop: The Linux Foundation Views GNU/Linux Users as a Nuisance | Techrights @Reglue" | Aug 27 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Hi, do you know if Pleroma stored OStatus URIs in the database | Aug 27 16:37 |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/11/0327e44f376de757.png | Aug 27 16:41 |
| *XRevan86 had a test with two identical answers. Only one of those was correct, of course. | Aug 27 16:43 | |
| XRevan86 | the correct answer was one of those two identical ones | Aug 27 16:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 27 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | And so here the answer is "25%", luckily randomness doesn't care about that they hold identical string literals. | Aug 27 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | A or D – impossible to tell for sure %) | Aug 27 16:47 |
| MinceR | it can't be 25% either | Aug 27 16:49 |
| MinceR | if "25%" is a correct answer, then both A and D are correct answers | Aug 27 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why not? You have four options, you pick one at random. | Aug 27 16:49 |
| MinceR | but if A and D are correct answers, then the probability of correctness is 50%, not 25% | Aug 27 16:49 |
| MinceR | it's a paradox | Aug 27 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They can't be both correct, that's not a proper game semantic. | Aug 27 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | there are probably rules somewhere that say that there's only one correct answer | Aug 27 16:50 |
| MinceR | if they can't be both correct, then either neither of them is correct, or they should have different contents | Aug 27 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yes | Aug 27 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | "should" is a funny word %) | Aug 27 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And if we assume that they can't be correct, then odds of hitting the correct one is 0%, because it's not listed. | Aug 27 16:53 |
| XRevan86 | now that's a paradox :) | Aug 27 16:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 27 16:53 |
| XRevan86 | though no, it would still be 25% :D | Aug 27 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Anyway, it really does boil down to how the rules of the game are defined | Aug 27 16:57 |
| kingoffrance | well the trick is i suppose its no longer random after youve read the options | Aug 27 16:57 |
| kingoffrance | so on that "pure random" i would say 25% | Aug 27 16:57 |
| XRevan86 | if it's like '25%' == '25%', then it's… 50%, if it's like 'A' == 'D', then it's 25% | Aug 27 16:57 |
| kingoffrance | i would say its a quantum question :) | Aug 27 16:57 |
| kingoffrance | answer changes if youve read options or not :) | Aug 27 16:57 |
| MinceR | random choice doesn't change though | Aug 27 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: I don't agree. The answer stays the same, but to resolve the conditions to calculate the probability one needs to know the rules better. | Aug 27 16:58 |
| MinceR | unless you randomly choose the content of the answer | Aug 27 16:59 |
| MinceR | and not the option letter | Aug 27 16:59 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Aug 27 16:59 |
| MinceR | but that is unspecified, so you don't know how probable any of these strings would be | Aug 27 16:59 |
| MinceR | then again, maybe it's possible to specify a random string generation so that there is a correct answer | Aug 27 17:00 |
| kingoffrance | "to resolve the conditions to calculate the probability one needs to know the rules better." yes, because my way is still assuming there's 1 correct answer, which you would assume if you didnt read the options | Aug 27 17:00 |
| MinceR | or you could do some weighted randomness function | Aug 27 17:01 |
| XRevan86 | > if it's like '25%' == '25%', then it's… 50%, if it's like 'A' == 'D', then it's 25% | Aug 27 17:01 |
| XRevan86 | so if '25%' == '25%', then the answer becomes 50%, which is unique, which brings it back to 25%, and so on | Aug 27 17:01 |
| kingoffrance | lol so it remains quantum :) | Aug 27 17:01 |
| MinceR | you could write a function that produces "25%" 25% of the time and some other string the rest of the time | Aug 27 17:02 |
| MinceR | same for "50%" | Aug 27 17:02 |
| MinceR | or even a function that returns 'C' half the time and something else the rest of the time | Aug 27 17:03 |
| MinceR | if you aren't locked into a function that randomly picks between A, B, C, D with equal probabilities, you can make any of the answers correct | Aug 27 17:12 |
| scientes | MinceR, every answer is a correct answer | Aug 27 17:12 |
| scientes | that's my type | Aug 27 17:12 |
| MinceR | for example, if you use the following implementation, B will be correct >> https://xkcd.com/221/ | Aug 27 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Random Number | Aug 27 17:12 | |
| scientes | MinceR, that's a rip off of this https://dilbert.com/search_results?terms=Random%20Number%20Generator | Aug 27 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Random Number Generator Comic Strips | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Aug 27 17:13 | |
| MinceR | :D | Aug 27 17:13 |
| scientes | the benifit of the Dilbert is that it is intelligent, while the xkcd is smug | Aug 27 17:14 |
| MinceR | i don't mind being both | Aug 27 17:14 |
| scientes | sometimes I want to plug the smug | Aug 27 17:14 |
| scientes | https://dilbert.com/strip/1989-09-23 | Aug 27 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 1989-09-23 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Aug 27 17:19 | |
| scientes | ahhh the 90s WERE better | Aug 27 17:19 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 27 17:19 |
| scientes | Dilbert was also pretty prophetic https://dilbert.com/strip/1995-12-29 | Aug 27 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 1995-12-29 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Aug 27 17:22 | |
| scientes | https://dilbert.com/strip/1996-01-11 | Aug 27 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 1996-01-11 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Aug 27 17:24 | |
| scientes | (and those problems were never fixed, unless you manage to get a UnionPay card) | Aug 27 17:24 |
| scientes | If a tree falls in the forest...and we've already sold the tree...does it have quality? | Aug 27 17:26 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 27 17:26 |
| scientes | XRevan86, https://dilbert.com/strip/1992-02-23 | Aug 27 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 1992-02-23 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Aug 27 17:28 | |
| *trn has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Aug 27 17:30 | |
| *obarun has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | Aug 27 17:37 | |
| *trn (jhj@prone.ws) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 17:43 | |
| XRevan86 | https://info.crunchydata.com/blog/why-postgresql-13-is-a-lucky-release | Aug 27 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-info.crunchydata.com | Why PostgreSQL 13 is a Lucky Release | Aug 27 17:58 | |
| *tdemin (~tdemin@2a03:1ac0:6dc3:9367::209) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 18:07 | |
| *obarun (~obarun@host-115-126-165-174.fibre.nautile.nc) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 18:10 | |
| *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 18:12 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Aug 27 18:20 | |
| *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Aug 27 18:21 | |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: And uh, ActivityPub, what is the purpose of "id" exactly? Is being unique the only necessary properly for it? | Aug 27 18:29 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder if it's actually equivalent to the OStatus URI in every way | Aug 27 18:30 |
| *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 18:31 | |
| scientes | I need an activity I can do in Spanish | Aug 27 18:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz My dad says he's not surprised about Thomson. He says one of their top people accidentally included him in an email years back about getting out of hardware and going into streaming where it would be low overhead and high margins. | Aug 27 18:31 |
| scientes | like I can read about the adventures of Alexander the Great, but my mind starts to wander as I read it, and I find myself thinking about two things at the same time | Aug 27 18:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told him they filed bankruptcy both in France and the US. | Aug 27 18:32 |
| scientes | perhaps I am just trying to quiet my English inner monologue that is trying to keep me alive from all the evil people around me | Aug 27 18:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | France has involuntary bankruptcy and it's much more common for your creditors to file it against you than it is in the US. | Aug 27 18:32 |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 18:34 | |
| scientes | oh wow, I never realized "Manifest" literally means to make a party | Aug 27 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | > from Latin manifesto (“to make public”) | Aug 27 18:36 |
| scientes | hmmmm, then Spanish's "fiesta" is more like "go to the ball" | Aug 27 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | that's what manifested | Aug 27 18:37 |
| scientes | than a literally party | Aug 27 18:37 |
| scientes | or "show off my sexy new dress" | Aug 27 18:37 |
| kingoffrance | demonstrate: de + monstrare to show. see monster. | Aug 27 18:39 |
| kingoffrance | "monster" being something you cant quite make out | Aug 27 18:39 |
| scientes | kingoffrance, nice one | Aug 27 18:39 |
| XRevan86 | manifestus: from manus (hand) + *fendo (hit, thrust) | Aug 27 18:39 |
| kingoffrance | so to "de-monster" is to "reveal" make it intelligible | Aug 27 18:39 |
| XRevan86 | festus: festive | Aug 27 18:39 |
| scientes | kingoffrance, given that sufficiently advanced technology is indestinguishable from magic that makes sense | Aug 27 18:40 |
| kingoffrance | well thats my interpretation :) | Aug 27 18:40 |
| kingoffrance | monstrare: to show is theirs | Aug 27 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | seem to be false cognates | Aug 27 18:40 |
| scientes | probably | Aug 27 18:41 |
| scientes | looks like anglo and french getting mixed up | Aug 27 18:41 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: festus and manifestus are Classical Latin | Aug 27 18:41 |
| scientes | XRevan86, of course | Aug 27 18:41 |
| scientes | festivus was the winter party | Aug 27 18:42 |
| scientes | how much latin is in Russia | Aug 27 18:42 |
| scientes | i get the impression very little, only greek | Aug 27 18:42 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: There's quite a bit of French | Aug 27 18:42 |
| XRevan86 | if you mean loan words | Aug 27 18:42 |
| scientes | and now English | Aug 27 18:43 |
| kingoffrance | yes, a festivus for the rest of us | Aug 27 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | so "manifest" apparently has more in common with "fence" than with "festivity" | Aug 27 18:43 |
| scientes | wut? | Aug 27 18:43 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/11/f05be8220ac548e4.jpg | Aug 27 18:56 |
| *_inky (~inky@141.136.76.27) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 19:26 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pulled up to use the ATM and there was a guy there with his ass hanging out of his pants, who was loitering. | Aug 27 19:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Threw it in reverse and went nope nope nope. | Aug 27 19:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing good's gonna happen here. | Aug 27 19:42 |
| MinceR | hell is other people | Aug 27 19:44 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/11/97bc38bfcac55ac2.jpg | Aug 27 19:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, there's the Kenosha shitfest. | Aug 27 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They found the guy who gunned down those two rioters. | Aug 27 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He was a Hitler Youth (photos/video of himself at Trump rallies and in one of those police youth programs). They bagged him on first degree murder. He's in Illinois awaiting extradition back to Wisconsin. They can't choose not to send you back over a felony, but they have a hearing to look at the warrant first. | Aug 27 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | See, this is what we call a buy two, get one free deal. | Aug 27 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Two less rioters who probably weren't voting for anyone anyway and were just causing crime, and a Hitler Youth going to prison and not voting. | Aug 27 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Both sides are assholes, both sides take care of each other. ' | Aug 27 19:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/08/hbo-max-cranks-up-the-widevine-drm-leaves-linux-users-in-the-cold/ | Aug 27 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold | Ars Technica | Aug 27 19:54 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Google has a "level" of Widevine where you can't use it on Linux at all. They call Linux "untrustworthy" because the user has some control over it. | Aug 27 19:54 |
| MinceR | they've become fans of DRM lately | Aug 27 19:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's so stupid to crank it up to this level because BitTorrent is right the fuck there and some people who were paying for HBO will now cancel it. | Aug 27 19:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So this move can only cost them subscribers. | Aug 27 19:55 |
| MinceR | https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10084131/ | Aug 27 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patchwork.kernel.org | [RFC,1/6] drm: Add Content Protection property - Patchwork | Aug 27 19:55 | |
| MinceR | "do no evil", my ass | Aug 27 19:55 |
| scientes | "protection" | Aug 27 19:57 |
| MinceR | see also: "security" | Aug 27 19:57 |
| scientes | also see: "insane" | Aug 27 19:58 |
| scientes | or "neoliberal demons" | Aug 27 19:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/27/21403769/hurricane-laura-microsoft-flight-simulator | Aug 27 19:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft Flight Simulator players are flying into Hurricane Laura - The Verge | Aug 27 19:59 | |
| scientes | > | Aug 27 19:59 |
| scientes | If this is merged, does it open kernel developers to DMCA threats if | Aug 27 19:59 |
| scientes | they try to change it? | Aug 27 19:59 |
| scientes | yes | Aug 27 19:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The last version of flight simulator I used was on Windows XP, but I always thought it was funny that Microsoft put more effort into a flight simulator than Windows. | Aug 27 19:59 |
| scientes | that's also the basic law of diplomacy | Aug 27 19:59 |
| scientes | if you give an inch, they will take a mile | Aug 27 20:00 |
| psydread | they need gimmicks like the Flight Simulator to keep Windows entrenched | Aug 27 20:01 |
| scientes | "premium hd content" | Aug 27 20:01 |
| scientes | and "premium" | Aug 27 20:01 |
| scientes | psydread, it also allows you to fly that slick ultralight hydroplane | Aug 27 20:01 |
| scientes | that is also completely useless | Aug 27 20:02 |
| scientes | psydread, but seriously, thinking about it that politically is stupid | Aug 27 20:03 |
| scientes | you should try actually reading some code | Aug 27 20:03 |
| psydread | scientes, that's what I've been doing for days, that's why I haven't been writing much here | Aug 27 20:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Widevine is so nasty that even enabling it doesn't mean that they'll let you use their streaming site, and they can choose to give Linux degraded versions too. | Aug 27 20:04 |
| scientes | oh cool | Aug 27 20:05 |
| scientes | what are you reading? | Aug 27 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you only use Netflix, they won't give Linux anything over 720p, even if you're paying them for a higher tier. | Aug 27 20:05 |
| psydread | I've read the RISC-V book and started working a bit with it earlier today, tomorrow I will continue | Aug 27 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So all those sites that were giving Netflix free press because it "works" on Linux, they only give 1080p to Edge on Windows and Safari on a Mac. | Aug 27 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Neither of which use Widevine (although the new Edge has that and PlayReady. So two DRM modules. | Aug 27 20:06 |
| scientes | perhaps you need some more familiarity with the machine, but after watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGw-cy0ylCc | Aug 27 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Mill CPU Architecture - the Belt (2 of 13) - YouTube | Aug 27 20:06 | |
| scientes | psydread, you can get a RISC-v softcore for FPGA | Aug 27 20:06 |
| scientes | One of my side project ideas is to re-write RISC-V assembly to do a belt thing, along with a version of a performant soft-core | Aug 27 20:07 |
| psydread | scientes, I will look into it when I am a bit more familiar with it, but at first sight it reminds me a bit of POWER (more so than ARM) but simplified | Aug 27 20:07 |
| scientes | but I think my interest in turing machines is fading | Aug 27 20:07 |
| scientes | psydread, basically all CPUs are the exact same design, except that x86 is implemented as a RISC while it has lots of legacy baggage | Aug 27 20:08 |
| scientes | this is actually very alien | Aug 27 20:08 |
| scientes | but you really have to be a mathy person to get into this stuff | Aug 27 20:09 |
| psydread | I've heard of the Mill CPU, but I thought I'd better get more familiar with and get actual experience with a few more RISC architectures before going there | Aug 27 20:09 |
| psydread | oh, I am | Aug 27 20:09 |
| scientes | psydread, well the mill cpu is basically vaporware, but this is a specific feature of it | Aug 27 20:10 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/686560.jpg | Aug 27 20:11 |
| scientes | psydread, there are very few people that actually seem to get their head around a wholistic understanding of computers | Aug 27 20:13 |
| scientes | and thus very little actually gets done in the bigger picture | Aug 27 20:13 |
| scientes | people just keep banging their little hammers | Aug 27 20:14 |
| kingoffrance | ^^^ | Aug 27 20:14 |
| kingoffrance | thats the point | Aug 27 20:14 |
| kingoffrance | most ppl are meant to be worker bees | Aug 27 20:14 |
| kingoffrance | and not do any real thinking | Aug 27 20:14 |
| kingoffrance | its designed that way on purpose | Aug 27 20:14 |
| kingoffrance | compartmentalization is more productive they think | Aug 27 20:14 |
| scientes | except they are not doing any more | Aug 27 20:14 |
| scientes | *not doing any work | Aug 27 20:14 |
| kingoffrance | ^^^ | Aug 27 20:14 |
| kingoffrance | thats the point -- its about power over ppl :) | Aug 27 20:14 |
| scientes | and shutting them up | Aug 27 20:15 |
| kingoffrance | :) yes | Aug 27 20:15 |
| MinceR | if they aren't doing any real thinking, they should be relatively easy to replace with a robot | Aug 27 20:15 |
| MinceR | or just software | Aug 27 20:15 |
| scientes | MinceR, yes, that is why they can't declare war on open source yet | Aug 27 20:15 |
| kingoffrance | interchangeable cogs yes | Aug 27 20:15 |
| scientes | they can only do undeclared war | Aug 27 20:15 |
| scientes | because you get one person that thinks that they change everything | Aug 27 20:16 |
| scientes | look at the effect git had | Aug 27 20:16 |
| MinceR | "i declare war on the axis of morons" | Aug 27 20:17 |
| kingoffrance | ppl says it outdated or doom and gloom but "systems software research is irrelevant" robert pike makes the same points | Aug 27 20:17 |
| kingoffrance | systems meaning holistic | Aug 27 20:17 |
| kingoffrance | as in systemwide, although thats more re: sw | Aug 27 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This election would be a lot more likely to go Trump's way had this been 10-15 years ago. | Aug 27 20:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Virginia took a hard turn to the left and even has someone from the Socialist Party in their state legislature now. | Aug 27 20:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've shredded several hundred laws dating back to Jim Crow and almost everything the Republicans have done at the state level since 1995 in the last 8 months. | Aug 27 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They passed one bill that went down a list of 196 Jim Crow laws (many struck down, but still on the books) and repealed all of them with one vote. | Aug 27 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They also repealed the statute (unenforceable) that bans same-sex marriage, so even if a future federal court ruling reversed the situation, it would still be legal in Virginia. | Aug 27 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're in court right now trying to get a gigantic statue of Robert E. Lee off the front lawn. | Aug 27 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But they passed a law allowing local governments to remove Confederate statues, and over 100 of them have been removed so far. | Aug 27 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some by protesters who threw it in a lake. Saving the government money. | Aug 27 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The police showed up to some of the statues being pulled down and just watched. | Aug 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My mom is furious. | Aug 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing she can do. | Aug 27 20:23 |
| scientes | kingoffrance, nothing you said makes any sense | Aug 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "You realize you're saying KKK statues from the 1920s should stay up, right?". | Aug 27 20:23 |
| scientes | and you generally make no sense in this channel | Aug 27 20:24 |
| scientes | same reason I blocked DaemonFC[m] | Aug 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no point to using my online bank accounts anymore, schestowitz | Aug 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I keep getting emails saying that the interest rates are going down again. | Aug 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's down to nearly nothing even in accounts that paid out 3% last year. | Aug 27 20:24 |
| scientes | software is math, but you have in your head a metaphor for god knows what | Aug 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Punishing savers doesn't mean that they won't be afraid to waste money. | Aug 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Japan tried and tried and people became frugal anyway. | Aug 27 20:25 |
| scientes | yeah, you are going on that ignore list too | Aug 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People who spend 300 lines of a chat room talking about people they supposedly ignored months ago are narcissists and candidates for Biggest Douche in the World. | Aug 27 20:26 |
| *oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Aug 27 20:27 | |
| *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 20:28 | |
| scientes | MinceR, you actually make a very compelling argument. Without a global "turn off anti-features" flag Linux has been hijacked. | Aug 27 20:31 |
| scientes | I mean in the build system | Aug 27 20:31 |
| scientes | because this is GPL2 after all, and that is all you can ask for | Aug 27 20:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if there was a feature like that, most distributions would shrug and say oh well and leave it on. | Aug 27 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably even Debian. | Aug 27 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Firefoxing of Free Software has been completed. | Aug 27 20:33 |
| MinceR | the cult of cancerd will definitely leave it on | Aug 27 20:34 |
| MinceR | because it's "modern" and because fuck the users | Aug 27 20:34 |
| MinceR | oh, and because something oh-so-important will refuse to work if it's disabled | Aug 27 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But no, nobody maintaining Linux would even give people who compile it the option. | Aug 27 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It'll require an outside patchset most likely, which has to be updated, like Linux-Libre. | Aug 27 20:34 |
| scientes | MinceR, its important to fleece people | Aug 27 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe the Free Software Foundation Latin America hasn't been as corrrupted as the other organizations calling themselves that, and could do a patch series to back out DRM "helpers". | Aug 27 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Open source software has never tried to be a social good. It says that's "useless politics" because their corporate backers want to make products that attack users. | Aug 27 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's sad how many of their ideals have been hamfisted into software nominally licensed under a GPL version. | Aug 27 20:37 |
| scientes | So there's the first out: if you don't want to use HDCP, then don't enable it! | Aug 27 20:37 |
| scientes | BULLSHIT | Aug 27 20:37 |
| kingoffrance | scientes: http://herpolhode.com/rob/utah2000.pdf | Aug 27 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apple sat back and got fat because people just work for free and give them all this shit they turn into Macs and iPhones. | Aug 27 20:38 |
| kingoffrance | its a famous paper | Aug 27 20:38 |
| scientes | In short, if you already run your own code on a free device, HDCP is an irrelevance and does not reduce freedom in any way. | Aug 27 20:38 |
| scientes | BULLSHIT | Aug 27 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then Microsoft realized that it too could exploit this. | Aug 27 20:38 |
| scientes | https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2017/12/11/why-linux-hdcp-isnt-the-end-of-the-world/ | Aug 27 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | Why Linux HDCP isn't the end of the world | Aug 27 20:38 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft has been looking to fire a lot of people, and it has fired a lot of people. | Aug 27 20:38 |
| scientes | HDCP is like buying a really nice pizza, and then taking a poop on one half of it | Aug 27 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bill Gates bragged about Windows 2003 having the most testing ever of any Windows version, and now there's no testing really. It just goes out. | Aug 27 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't take kindly to having my computer broken so that Microsoft can see what they did wrong and tweak their update, potentially after killing my hardware. | Aug 27 20:40 |
| kingoffrance | the title of the paper wasnt condoning the situation -- it was saying "why is there no real systems research being done?" | Aug 27 20:40 |
| *_inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Aug 27 20:40 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | HDCP unfortunately affects open source even if you don't want or don't care about DRM. | Aug 27 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because the lawyers won't let them document anything that touches it, so the HDMI audio out on AMD graphics was reverse engineered. | Aug 27 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It took months for the lawyers to even say it was okay to document the names of registers. | Aug 27 20:41 |
| kingoffrance | and little as i care for golang, or ms, pike is a unix guy | Aug 27 20:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As far as the user is concerned, HDMI isn't functionally more useful than DVI-D. | Aug 27 20:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It wasn't meant to be. | Aug 27 20:42 |
| MinceR | at least the connector is pretty well designed | Aug 27 20:42 |
| MinceR | pity the protocol is behind DisplayPort and the licensing situation is also worse | Aug 27 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So was DVI. You screwed it down and it stayed plugged in. | Aug 27 20:43 |
| MinceR | if you didn't screw it in, it didn't stay plugged in | Aug 27 20:43 |
| MinceR | and it was virtually guarantee that you'd had to fiddle with the screws in highly awkward positions when screwing in and out | Aug 27 20:44 |
| MinceR | s/tee/teed/ | Aug 27 20:44 |
| schestowitz | seems like Us only did 400k tests this past day, so far... | Aug 27 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Even if you somehow get Amazon Prime Video to work on HDMI with Windows 10, sometimes all you have to do to interrupt the video is jiggle the cable a little. | Aug 27 20:44 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 27 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is ridiculous. Even supported platforms are iffy at best. | Aug 27 20:44 |
| scientes | "licensing" | Aug 27 20:44 |
| MinceR | maybe switch to less atrocious software and/or hardware :> | Aug 27 20:44 |
| kingoffrance | and pike says there is no systems research because its long term; short-term funding makes for narrow projects | Aug 27 20:44 |
| kingoffrance | as he says, the odds before were horrible, now they are practically zero | Aug 27 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, die motherfuckers. Sorry, but at least they won't vote again. | Aug 27 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We all know who the idiots who went to Sturgis support. | Aug 27 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're likely to know and infect more people like them when they get back and go about their business. | Aug 27 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who take it to church. | Aug 27 20:45 |
| schestowitz | India tests about a million a day | Aug 27 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There will be collateral damage, but it's lopsided towards killing dumb Trump voters. | Aug 27 20:46 |
| kingoffrance | so the "compartmentalization" is on purpose, its what "the market" demands | Aug 27 20:46 |
| kingoffrance | like i said, thats their definition of "productive" | Aug 27 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This virus is mostly killing Republicans, black people, and Cubans in Florida. | Aug 27 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Cubans in Florida we got when Castro dumped out his prisons and insane asylums and Carter let them all stay. | Aug 27 20:47 |
| kingoffrance | he notes stanford ppl visiting startups as the death of research -- means business has taken over "research" | Aug 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're Republicans. | Aug 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Carter is the reason why Hillary Clinton lost Florida. | Aug 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He should have put them all back on a boat and told them to get the fuck out of here. | Aug 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obama ended wet foot, dry foot a few days before leaving office. | Aug 27 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump never brought it back, even though more Cubans arriving would theoretically benefit Republicans for many years. | Aug 27 20:48 |
| kingoffrance | and he notes there is too much measurement e.g. benchmarks, and thats a misuse of the scientific method -- and does not mean new ideas necessarily -- instead of some grand new systemwide idea, little tiny measurements in little tiny areas aka microbenchmarks ; which he says is something, but its not "research" and not systems research in particular | Aug 27 20:50 |
| kingoffrance | plus he notes less variety of hw | Aug 27 20:50 |
| kingoffrance | if scientes blocked me, maybe someone can tell him to actually read the paper | Aug 27 20:53 |
| kingoffrance | before jumping to conclusions based on the title | Aug 27 20:53 |
| MinceR | it's hard to read since rows spill off the page | Aug 27 20:53 |
| MinceR | but anyway, you won't convince people who ignore so easily of anything | Aug 27 20:54 |
| kingoffrance | yeah :/ | Aug 27 20:55 |
| kingoffrance | well the point was education is designed that way on purpose because thats how business wants it | Aug 27 20:55 |
| kingoffrance | i would almost say for real research you need a giant corp with deep pockets, that doesnt need a quick fix commercial product | Aug 27 20:56 |
| kingoffrance | so thats not a problem...if they can be patient and experiment | Aug 27 20:56 |
| kingoffrance | which they generally cant | Aug 27 20:56 |
| kingoffrance | funding is not a bad thing; its bad if its changing your research though | Aug 27 20:57 |
| MinceR | research that depend on suits that control who gets access to resources is doomed anyway | Aug 27 20:57 |
| kingoffrance | :) | Aug 27 20:57 |
| MinceR | s/nd/nds/ | Aug 27 20:58 |
| MinceR | human society ensured that most resources and most structures of control are in the hands of the people least fit to control them | Aug 27 20:58 |
| kingoffrance | cogs are supposed to be easier to *manage*; thats their definition of "productive": follows orders | Aug 27 21:00 |
| MinceR | that won't be productive if the orders are bullshit | Aug 27 21:00 |
| MinceR | and the orders won't make sense if they come from people who don't care about doing their jobs properly | Aug 27 21:01 |
| kingoffrance | well he said "software is math" pike said that is the problem; supposed to be math + philosophy + art etc. "math" is not "wholistic" | Aug 27 21:03 |
| kingoffrance | the paper was written for him :) | Aug 27 21:03 |
| kingoffrance | art == technique, style, method | Aug 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | well, philosophy and art are information, therefore they are software and they are math :> | Aug 27 21:04 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Aug 27 21:04 |
| kingoffrance | if sw is math, where does "unix philosophy" fit? exactly | Aug 27 21:04 |
| kingoffrance | what are the complaints about systemd? that its bad math? or thats its not unix-style? | Aug 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | it's atrocious design, atrocious attitude, atrocious implementation and atrocious politics | Aug 27 21:05 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Aug 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | it's being forced on people in an attempt to take their freedom away | Aug 27 21:06 |
| kingoffrance | well you get theres different areas. its not just math. | Aug 27 21:06 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kernel 5.7 Reached End of Life, Upgrade Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141428#comment-26252 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5edc0f9-350d-421a-8b5c-05758e190aec] | Aug 27 21:09 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Tartube – A GTK+ 3 Front-end for Youtube-DL Video Downloader http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141440 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9afd4bb9-304c-4d0b-a6db-5bc5dc525c91] | Aug 27 21:10 | |
| kingoffrance | i guess that paper was before systemd, so it perhaps is a symptom of what happens if you ignore "philosophy" or your surroundings anyways | Aug 27 21:10 |
| MinceR | the math in cancerd could be arbitrarily crap, it wouldn't matter if they weren't pulling tricks to force it on people | Aug 27 21:10 |
| kingoffrance | people have made similar accusations, not just tech. e.g. gates foundations only gives grants to large group projects. so, some would say, there is long-term funding...for predetermined goals i.e. they dont want real research, they want you to follow their script | Aug 27 21:14 |
| kingoffrance | so there are ppl who say large group projects destroys anyone coming up with anything different | Aug 27 21:15 |
| kingoffrance | ppl have been saying that for 70 years at least | Aug 27 21:16 |
| kingoffrance | grants are for people who follow orders | Aug 27 21:16 |
| kingoffrance | pike is not unique in such accusations | Aug 27 21:17 |
| kingoffrance | publish or perish etc. too | Aug 27 21:17 |
| kingoffrance | he notes that | Aug 27 21:17 |
| kingoffrance | aka tps reports kills productivity of building a real working system | Aug 27 21:18 |
| kingoffrance | im not the only one who notices "what good is this research paper, if the sw is not available anywhere?" | Aug 27 21:19 |
| kingoffrance | so, noone can reproduce your results or test your new algorithm | Aug 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | if it's not reproducible then it is not science | Aug 27 21:19 |
| kingoffrance | or you know we built this one-off hw | Aug 27 21:20 |
| kingoffrance | for our lab/college | Aug 27 21:20 |
| kingoffrance | so not only is there no sw, noone can buy the hw we used | Aug 27 21:20 |
| kingoffrance | cuz it was an "internal" thing | Aug 27 21:21 |
| kingoffrance | just trust our pretty graphs... | Aug 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | (nsfw) https://www.oglaf.com/jocasta/ | Aug 27 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oglaf.com | Jocasta loves Oedipus | Aug 27 21:21 | |
| kingoffrance | same as the pacer "free for researchers": you cant give anyone your dataset, but you can write a paper noone can verify | Aug 27 21:32 |
| kingoffrance | that was supposedly unix story too: multics bombed, you can write papers, dont actually build any os anymore. i know you are "systems research" but just draw on whiteboards | Aug 27 21:40 |
| kingoffrance | so do "systems research' but dont write any code | Aug 27 21:40 |
| kingoffrance | just...pretend its real | Aug 27 21:41 |
| *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Aug 27 21:55 | |
| *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Aug 27 21:56 | |
| kingoffrance | i guess what bothers me about that paper is people mock it "theres no real research cuz some guy wrote some paper 20 years ago" ...without addressing any of the points | Aug 27 21:57 |
| kingoffrance | so that tells me its still relevant if they refuse to even try to address it | Aug 27 21:57 |
| kingoffrance | i guess hes seen as an old man and not worth listening to | Aug 27 21:58 |
| kingoffrance | so he couldnt know anything etc. | Aug 27 21:58 |
| *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 22:00 | |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-172-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 22:01 | |
| kingoffrance | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unix_Programming_Environment Even though the UNIX system introduces a number of innovative programs and techniques, no single program or idea makes it work well. Instead, what makes it effective is the approach to programming, a philosophy of using the computer. | Aug 27 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Unix Programming Environment - Wikipedia | Aug 27 22:01 | |
| kingoffrance | its like that book no longer exists in some circles | Aug 27 22:02 |
| kingoffrance | "no single program" of course is an argument against systemd :) | Aug 27 22:05 |
| MinceR | https://media.oglaf.com/loglines/witness.gif | Aug 27 22:08 |
| kingoffrance | ive said before, cray said similar ; in 1950s you could get funding because noone knew what an os was. afterwards, everyone "knew" what it was, so all your research was "doing it wrong" | Aug 27 22:20 |
| kingoffrance | and he says ppl took less risks for this reason too: no existing systems does x, therefore its not possible so he tried to hire ppl with less experience, because they didnt know things werent possible and would make them work :) | Aug 27 22:21 |
| kingoffrance | they wouldnt prematurely sabotage because "ive never seen that before" | Aug 27 22:21 |
| kingoffrance | its almost a bike shed story... | Aug 27 22:21 |
| kingoffrance | you can get approved when noone knows what you're doing, because noone will question you if you have convincing credentials | Aug 27 22:21 |
| kingoffrance | but if you are doing something "everyone knows" you drown in red tape | Aug 27 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The CDC changed their COVID-19 testing guidelines 3 times in 3 days after admitting that it was Trump that made them say you don't need a test after being exposed to it. | Aug 27 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if you got exposed on Tuesday, you need a test. If you were exposed yesterday, you don't, and if you get exposed today, you do. | Aug 27 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People wonder why nobody trusts the CDC anymore. It's a sockpuppet for whatever lies and bullshit Trump wants them to spew. | Aug 27 22:23 |
| MinceR | the likes of microsloth and crApple and dehomag don't want competition in the OS market anyway | Aug 27 22:25 |
| kingoffrance | quote: "program design in the unix environment" the right solution in the right place is always more effective than haphazard hacking. it wasnt just "math" to them | Aug 27 22:40 |
| kingoffrance | "the UNIX system provided a new style of computing, an ew way of thinking of how to attack a problem with a computer" | Aug 27 22:40 |
| kingoffrance | aka "art" technique method ... | Aug 27 22:40 |
| oiaohm | kingoffrance: systemd is not a single program. | Aug 27 22:42 |
| kingoffrance | the name implies it is so | Aug 27 22:43 |
| oiaohm | Is postgresql a single program. | Aug 27 22:43 |
| oiaohm | name really does not apply single program at all. | Aug 27 22:44 |
| oiaohm | its quite common for a service to be multi parts. | Aug 27 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wish that more food pantries would create budget recipe sections on their websites. | Aug 27 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think some of what's causing these people to throw out the fresh fruits and vegetables is that they honestly don't know what to do with them because they have no life skills. | Aug 27 22:46 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: its not just that https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-whole-fish-cookbook-josh-niland/book/9781743795538.html even those with so called life skills can fail to take full advantage of what they have. | Aug 27 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-whole-fish-cookbook-josh-niland/book/9781743795538.html ) | Aug 27 22:49 | |
| oiaohm | Like one of my most favorite snack foods is fried pumpkin seeds. Lot of people just put those in the bin. | Aug 27 22:50 |
| MinceR | https://www.oglaf.com/ermine-shadow/ | Aug 27 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oglaf.com | the Ermine Shadow | Aug 27 22:51 | |
| kingoffrance | i guess systemd doesnt bother me so much because at "work" im not going to have a choice anyways, at "home" i do | Aug 27 22:57 |
| kingoffrance | if you want support, which companies of a certain size do, you have to run support configurations, so even they will do whatever "upstream" does unless something makes them switch vendors | Aug 27 22:57 |
| kingoffrance | *supported | Aug 27 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/27/hurricane-laura-blasts-the-gulf-coast-and-inland-with-wind-rain-and-a-wall-of-seawater.html | Aug 27 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Laura carves destructive path through Louisiana; 4 dead | Aug 27 23:01 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL! | Aug 27 23:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The hurricane hit a Capital One Bank office building and trashed it. | Aug 27 23:01 |
| kingoffrance | im sure some sysadmins and programmers have a say in purchasing decisions etc. lowly me, no | Aug 27 23:01 |
| kingoffrance | its not like my advice was on the table either way :) | Aug 27 23:01 |
| kingoffrance | but when they start forcing me to do ms stuff i hit the door :) | Aug 27 23:02 |
| kingoffrance | i have my limits | Aug 27 23:02 |
| kingoffrance | im not gonna administrate that | Aug 27 23:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.hertzgroup.com/hertz-properties/capital-one-tower/ | Aug 27 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hertzgroup.com | Capital One Tower - Hertz Investment Group | Aug 27 23:04 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Hertz Investment Group acquired this prestigious property in 2007." | Aug 27 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Very prestigious. A 22 story building with an all glass exterior that got completely smashed. | Aug 27 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "For leasing information please contact: Property Manager, | Aug 27 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mark Politz: 337-437-1142| Mark@hertzgroup.com" | Aug 27 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I was interested in leasing some extremely discounted office space in your not too brilliantly designed office building. | Aug 27 23:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/other/res_othersecurities.htm#postalbonds | Aug 27 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.treasurydirect.gov | Individual - Other Treasury Securities | Aug 27 23:08 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Patriot Bonds | Aug 27 23:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Purpose:This special designation for Series EE savings bonds offered Americans a way to express support for our nation's anti-terrorism efforts. Proceeds were deposited into a general fund that supported anti-terrorism efforts. | Aug 27 23:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | --- | Aug 27 23:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 27 23:08 |
| kingoffrance | sounds like one of those "bonus" funds that they can do whatever because its not allocated anywhere officially | Aug 27 23:12 |
| kingoffrance | so congress wouldnt give you money... | Aug 27 23:14 |
| kingoffrance | what to do ... | Aug 27 23:14 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: System76 has unleashed a beast of a mobile workstation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141176#comment-26253 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6f08e163-ad58-4ec7-ad94-6b3e6082a451] | Aug 27 23:18 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: System76 has unleashed a beast of a mobile workstation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141176#comment-26253 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c1474a38-6122-4199-b636-3123953a254b] | Aug 27 23:18 | |
| scientes | It would be great if the Zig authors could 1. realize that zig is doomed to be a failure, and 2. have the talent to port the better features into C | Aug 27 23:21 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Launch into Learning (Sale) with the System76 Robots http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141441 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1d85d022-d81b-4df3-9c20-236f84f85d2f] | Aug 27 23:21 | |
| scientes | but whenever you do things like that will language you have to breath the language | Aug 27 23:21 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: c [https://pleroma.site/objects/7955ac13-7b9c-43b0-89eb-91477ec07251] | Aug 27 23:21 | |
| scientes | and when I think even of something as trivial as porting WireGuard to QUIC I kinda yarn at having to think like a censor and how QUIC natively behaves | Aug 27 23:21 |
| scientes | *with language | Aug 27 23:22 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stable Kernels: 5.8.5 and 5.7.19 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141442 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6b2b9fcb-7b7d-410b-917f-5cf27c0b3504] | Aug 27 23:22 | |
| scientes | I think it has to be multiple RFCs: 1. improved ability to trap on UB. 2. more operators to specify if overflow is undefined or expected, 3. compile-time execution sufficient to enable macros in C 4. using #3 to define types | Aug 27 23:24 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: PureOS for Creatives Part 2: Audio Engineering with the Librem 15 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141443 [https://pleroma.site/objects/91a30fb6-5ed5-4c44-a787-8823a36ff5d7] | Aug 27 23:24 | |
| scientes | #3 and #4 are the difficult ones, but much better than the horrible ways C++ does it | Aug 27 23:24 |
| scientes | but really, I am tired of turing-complete languages | Aug 27 23:24 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Current NVIDIA vs. AMD Radeon Linux Gaming Performance Ahead Of Ampere http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141444 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9c647f34-78e9-4038-aa20-147c59642c16] | Aug 27 23:25 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141445 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5a7b5369-ef0c-46b6-b5d5-7adb825eaadd] | Aug 27 23:26 | |
| kingoffrance | i disagree with pike on breadth versus depth. IMO if you are really being "holistic" you are cementing your changes/depth across a wide range/breadth | Aug 27 23:31 |
| kingoffrance | mere "depth" is not "systems research" | Aug 27 23:31 |
| *_I3^RELATIVISM is now known as _I3^RELATIVISM_ | Aug 27 23:33 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141446 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cfa82e2a-42d6-408b-9c72-798cfc042e8f] | Aug 27 23:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141446 [https://pleroma.site/objects/56639538-e689-44f8-a2cd-14b2dc849374] | Aug 27 23:35 | |
| *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | Aug 27 23:39 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Application Systems Heidelberg, Prodeus, Humble Store and Parkitect http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141447 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d442b8ff-fe61-42ec-b4cb-537aa5a98f98] | Aug 27 23:44 | |
| *_I3^RELATIVISM_ has quit (Quit: authenticating) | Aug 27 23:48 | |
| *_I3^RELATIVISM_ (alexissamp@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-mcoftfzebmjuckek) has joined #techrights | Aug 27 23:48 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Freedom Hardware: OpenBot, Raspberry Pi and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141448 [https://pleroma.site/objects/479f5483-0634-4413-be15-c397dbd1aed8] | Aug 27 23:52 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141449 [https://pleroma.site/objects/76dda75b-67b6-4660-8f08-417976371e5c] | Aug 27 23:58 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
