●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 27, 2022 ●● ● Oct 27 [00:04] DaemonFC Maybe it's just as well our attorney had to bail on us today. [00:05] DaemonFC I found several mistakes I've made that I would've gone down there with but now have a week and a half to correct. [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:24] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I bumped my property damage coverage on my car insurance up to $50,000 some time ago. [00:25] DaemonFC It's like another $4 a year vs. $25,000, and cars have gotten so expensive and so easy to total that $50,000 is what $25,000 was 5-6 years ago. [00:26] DaemonFC You run into someone's back bumper these days and it's not $600 worth of damage. There's sensors and cameras and so much shit in there that you could do $12,000 of damage to the piece of shit with the same accident that did $600-700 damage 10-15 years ago. [00:26] schestowitz[TR3] brb, DaemonFC [00:27] schestowitz[TR3] just recorded 5 videos in a row [00:27] schestowitz[TR3] whiloe you highligted me with off-topic stuff [00:28] DaemonFC Ahh. Sorry. GEICO is not a "fun" place to work. Their employees (anonymously) report now that everyone is trying to keep their head down and make everyone else look bad to the boss. [00:29] schestowitz[TR3] here is a good topic [00:29] schestowitz[TR3] microsoft windows revenue fell [00:29] DaemonFC Over 1,000 layoffs. The management is outsourcing their jobs to some claims company that they decided to get together with other insurers to use, for "efficiency". [00:29] schestowitz[TR3] but then aggain, seeing vista 11 share, it makes sense [00:29] schestowitz[TR3] and not many x86 slaes [00:29] DaemonFC 19% drop in PC sales this year. 15% drop in Windows revenue. [00:30] DaemonFC Odd. Maybe they're increasing the price of a Windows license trying to SQUEEZE the OEMs for their remaining sales. [00:30] DaemonFC Beggar thy neighbor? [00:32] DaemonFC and not many x86 slaes [00:33] DaemonFC If they were smarter, they'd quit dumping all this money into expensive Windows on ARM laptops that they're just going to have to clearance and support for 10 years anyway. [00:34] DaemonFC That wouldn't help on x86 revenue, but it would stem some bleeding. Nobody wants Windows on a new platform. If you're going to lose x86 compatibility anyway, why Windows? [00:34] DaemonFC It'll be Windows RT all over again where they ended up having to do cumulative security updates for 10 years on a custom version of Windows 8 even though nobody bought them except maybe off a clearance rack. [00:35] DaemonFC It's certainly not "free" to them to have people on salary backporting security updates to Windows 8, which itself wasn't even supported on x86 for some of that! [00:39] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR3], As Windows grows fatter and demands an expensive new PC, Wine gets better every couple weeks at supporting new and old Windows software. [00:40] DaemonFC I don't know how Windows is even at 60% desktop right now. I may still be slightly above 60%. [00:42] starstreak microsoft shot themselves in the foot by not supporting older hardware [00:42] MinceR they sell most PCs with Backdoors preinstalled [00:42] MinceR most users can't install any OS [00:42] MinceR plus there's UEFI and Restricted Boot [00:42] MinceR plus the new shit that tripped up the local UEFI priest [00:43] starstreak when I was working at a computer store I was upgrading core2duo systems to an SSD and Windows 10 [00:44] starstreak everyone with a windows 7 or 8 license gets a free upgrade to 10 [00:44] starstreak can't install windows 11 on a core2duo [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 94.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 119.05 [00:59] resistor x86 is mostly closed and non-free; ao486 SoC on FPGA won't run linux ● Oct 27 [01:01] resistor seems ESA (european space agency) transitions from SPARC Leon to RISC-V too [01:01] resistor https://www.gaisler.com/noel-v [01:01] TR Bot NOEL-V [01:02] resistor "The NOEL-V is a synthesizable VHDL model of a processor that implements the RISC-V architecture. The processor is the first released model in our RISC-V ..." [01:02] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:02] resistor i remain sceptical about this, because on the software side nasty vendor-locks and violations of acceptance criteria remain with RISC-V [01:03] resistor in the end, there isn't offerings for students and hobbiest hackers i could recommend [01:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@s9xek7hahrdji.irc) has joined #techrights [01:04] resistor and the idea, to work with IBM MICROS~1 Wintel Pentagon Computer to develop for any platform, no, i won't [01:04] resistor because alot of software and development tooling is required [01:04] resistor even when GNU/Linux is supported, there's too many problems over there too [01:05] resistor i rather pick pencil and paper and any design i could study with my brain [01:05] resistor modern computer systems are awful, the stinkiest excrement of satan made in USA [01:06] resistor and the brits with their ARM aren't any different [01:10] resistor i don't know, approaching any system which is closer to acceptance criteria, Z80 or a Gigatron TTL, what would i want with this? [01:10] resistor no internet, no email, no irc, that's not practical for anything [01:11] resistor and those systems too got strings attached, to things (Z80 sdcc compiler written in c++, Gigatron TTL Pluggy McPlugface with proprietary ATMel microcontroller) [01:11] resistor often, peripherals are attached with Adafruit components, which are proprietary and closedsource too [01:11] resistor no thanks [01:13] resistor two years have passed, had not used a modern web-browser anymore... i don't miss anything [01:13] resistor 20years have passed, didn't use a "smart phone" ever... i don't miss anything [01:13] resistor and guess what, disconnecting internet, and i won't miss anything [01:14] resistor i got that many books, the online experience isn't worth it anymore [01:15] resistor i mean, the typical technology, this doesn't pass minimum acceptance criteria for private use at home at least [01:15] resistor i am even less interested to see anything of this deployed into "critical infrastructure" [01:16] resistor two weeks have passed, still waiting for german railway to respond to my letter [01:17] resistor they reported two severe outages of their railway signalling in 6month, and don't bother consulting with me still [01:19] resistor yes, it was two outages, and i suspect both may have been related to problems with X.25 transport [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:21] resistor german wikipedia says, german railway agency moved their old MAS90 x.25 network to a new one DBMAS (with tcp/ip involved) [01:22] resistor nonetheless, x.25 is still there, nonetheless Telekom terminated x.25 support, although their headquarters are located close nearby in Bonn [01:22] resistor it is important to keep record of all this, because i still got this contract with telekom headquarter, and had not received my salary for 17years [01:40] resistor i still don't know, how x.25 was transported over distance by german railway and telekom [01:40] resistor AX.25 is the amateur radio variant of this, with radio links and shared medium access [01:41] starstreak resistor, i think you would be a prime candidate for anti psychotic medication [01:41] resistor among railway, they used analog-radio for voice-call services, and abandoned this system in most areas, and too it's insufficient for compliance with ETCS [01:42] resistor starstreak: i am drinking tea, assam and some green tea [01:42] resistor anyway, the analog radio system in germany railway was still labeled Telefunken(!) (another defunct german company) [01:43] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:43] resistor however i couldn't find any information anywhere, if railway railway analog radio carried X.25 [01:44] resistor year 2010 railway reported they had migrated to GSM-R, although reporting about this seems inconclusive, including the fact some mention it's not completed yet [01:45] resistor and too power plants, including nuclear ones, had to connect with data services [01:47] resistor with their analog-radio system, german railway too implemented some frequency hopping already [01:49] resistor i think this is how they are doing it nowadays: GSM-R/SONET, on top of this with GPRS extension (instead of circuit-switching) they carry TCP/IP and on top of this X.25 [01:50] resistor and then there is all sorts of other things: MPLS/OSPF/IS-IS or however else they administer the telko backbone nowadays [01:50] resistor Telekom moved to "ALL-IP", hence MPLS and similar seems likely [01:51] resistor GSM-R is 2G still, which chances are may rely upon older ITU-T protocols in backbone [01:51] resistor whatever they did [01:53] resistor with ALL-IP, that's important too, i consider some older implementatios of TCP/IP and routing protcols somewhat different to what was innovated with IPv6 [01:53] resistor i won't touch this [01:54] resistor and in this realm, you always got both: the ITU-T protocol domain, and the DoD side (RFCs), encapsulated and tunneled with each other [01:56] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6vjj4ykdcjqgc.irc) has joined #techrights [01:56] TR News Political Bias is a Distraction From Googles Abuse of Power Over E-mail | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/google-email-domination/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/google-email-domination/ [01:56] TR Bot Political Bias is a Distraction From Googles Abuse of Power Over E-mail | Techrights [01:57] DaemonFC CNN (Bill Gates) now says it's not _just_ gay and bisexual men getting MonkeyPox for the most part, it's nearly 70% blacks that are getting it. [01:57] schestowitz[TR3] "Ursula von der Leyen (President of the European commission) Her actions are currently criminally investigated" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k_7moAdX5Qw [01:57] TR Bot Large European vaccine orders - Invidious [01:57] DaemonFC I wonder how mjg59_ feels about the media bashing not just gay men, but blacks in particular. [01:58] schestowitz[TR3] "It (EU) took measures to help compress the development timeline for vaccines from 10-15 years to 12-24 months. [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 118.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 107.86 ● Oct 27 [02:01] resistor in ITU-T X.25 realm, messaging services are specified by X.400 (nope, that's not email google could tamper with) [02:05] resistor "X.400 has been extended for use in military applications (see MMHS) and aviation (see AMHS)", i see [02:05] TR News Its Naive to Believe Foreign For-Profit Corporations Will Guard Democracy Online | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/social-media-vs-democracy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/social-media-vs-democracy/ [02:05] TR Bot Its Naive to Believe Foreign For-Profit Corporations Will Guard Democracy Online | Techrights [02:05] resistor that's even NATO standard [02:07] resistor and it is confusing too [02:07] resistor because, NATO/DoD are the ones involved with RFCs and IEEE standards (let's say internet) [02:08] resistor and ITU-T/ETSI (Paris, France) etc. are the Telekom ones [02:09] resistor my sympathies with ITU-T/ETSI are limited, because of their obsession with MICROS~1 word and powerpoint [02:09] resistor i mean, RFCs, are, still, written in ASCII text [02:09] resistor obviously they're not as braindead stupid in DoD as the ones among ITU-T and their MICROS~1 sponsors [02:10] resistor i don't know, x.400 is just an example, of NATO picking up ITU-T standards instead of DoD ones [02:11] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:12] DaemonFC "New research published Wednesday in the CDCs Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report examined clinical case data for 57 patients hospitalized with monkeypox complications and found that 82% had an HIV infection." [02:12] DaemonFC Most people trawling gay hookup apps will eventually get something. So it makes sense that a lot of them getting Monkeypox already have HIV. [02:13] DaemonFC "Monkeypox and HIV have collided with tragic effects, said CDC Monkeypox Incident Commander Dr. Jonathan Mermin in a news release from the agency. Todays report reminds all of us that access to monkeypox and HIV prevention and treatment mattersfor peoples lives and for public health. In the report, 95% of the patients were male and most (68%) were Black." [02:13] DaemonFC If they wore a condom, 98% of them wouldn't have had HIV in the first place. [02:14] DaemonFC HIV medication (which ruins your bones and internal organs) is so profitable that they market it to hoebags who won't wear a condom and figure it's not a matter of if, but rather, when. [02:14] TR News The R Foundation and R Consortium Arent the Same; One is a Front Group for Corporations Like Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/r-foundation-and-linux-foundation/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/r-foundation-and-linux-foundation/ [02:14] TR Bot The R Foundation and R Consortium Arent the Same; One is a Front Group for Corporations Like Microsoft | Techrights [02:15] DaemonFC Condoms are <$1 and you don't wreck your kidneys, liver, and bones with them. [02:15] DaemonFC Too easy. I know! [02:15] DaemonFC Pay Uncle Bill for patent licenses. [02:16] DaemonFC Eat some Beyond Steak on the way home. Now with 100% less guy who bites people on the nose. [02:16] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR3], Every company Gates "invests" in has people like this or worse at some point down the line. [02:16] DaemonFC Rapists, stranglers, people who bite some guy on the nose at a football game. [02:17] DaemonFC Just weird fucking people, criminals, creeps, perverts. [02:17] DaemonFC mjg59_, Do you plan to stay on at Aurora if and when Microosft buys it so you can work at the same company (officially) as these fine folks? [02:18] DaemonFC Or do you think hanging out at the pedo and groomer stomping ground called Reddit with your SJW flair is enough? [02:18] DaemonFC "Ursula von der Leyen (President of the European commission) Her actions are currently criminally investigated" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k_7moAdX5Qw [02:18] TR Bot Large European vaccine orders - Invidious [02:18] DaemonFC von der Slaven? [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [02:21] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR3], I remember you calling her Ursula von der Slaven. [02:21] DaemonFC Is there a reason for this particular name? [02:23] DaemonFC https://politicalwire.com/2022/10/26/herschel-walker-denies-new-abortion-claims/ [02:23] TR Bot Herschel Walker Denies New Abortion Claims [02:24] DaemonFC That's what he said the last time before he suddenly remembered writing a check for exactly what the abortion would cost and then "couldn't remember what I wrote it for". [02:32] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@9hqtyf5a842ig.irc) has joined #techrights [02:38] TR News Pushing Back Against Software Patents and More | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/papers-swpats-apple-and-upc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/papers-swpats-apple-and-upc/ [02:38] TR Bot Pushing Back Against Software Patents and More | Techrights [02:41] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-261022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-261022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-261022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-261022.txt [02:41] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 [02:42] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-261022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-261022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-261022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-261022.txt [02:42] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 [02:43] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-261022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-261022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-261022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-261022.txt [02:43] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 [02:44] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-261022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-261022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-261022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-261022.txt [02:44] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 [02:47] TR News Dusting out the box gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1156 [02:47] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-26.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-26.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:53] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [02:53] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 63.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 130.65 ● Oct 27 [03:03] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 158756 total Total number of pages in capsule: 43182 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 2 months 22 days ago [03:04] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 9.2 GB TotalOut: 2.1 GB [03:05] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:06] *reptilian_thrills has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:06] TR News Lots of Money Wasted on Overpriced Products That Do Not Curb COVID-19s Spread as Advertised https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/27/cristian-terhes-eppo/ [03:06] TR Bot Blog Archive Lots of Money Wasted on Overpriced Products That Do Not Curb COVID-19s Spread as Advertised [03:08] TR News "We are currently reviewing the distros on the strict list, verifying they are still actively being developed, whether they still meet our strict criteria and anything that has changed since they were first admitted to the list." https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/10/26/361/ [03:08] TR Bot Status and brief review | systemd-free linux community [03:09] TR News "Tweets" are sources? https://itwire.com/market/elon-musk-twitter-bid-likely-to-go-through-by-weekend.html [03:09] TR Bot - Elon Musk Twitter bid likely to go through by weekend [03:09] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:10] TR News iTWire - Briton indicted in US for allegedly running dark web trading site https://itwire.com/security/briton-indicted-in-us-for-running-dark-web-trading-site.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/briton-indicted-in-us-for-running-dark-web-trading-site.html [03:11] TR Bot - Briton indicted in US for allegedly running dark web trading site [03:12] TR News Atom has been abandoned by Microsoft, it's bloated junk, and there's no good reason to help GNU/Linux install it at this stage (it's abandonware) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cNz3ll_qBAk [03:12] TR Bot How to install Atom text editor on Linux Mint 21 - Invidious [03:12] *phanes (~phanes@vdaaabp6wfeza.irc) has joined #techrights [03:13] TR News iTWire - Phishing has been around long enough for Westpac to know https://itwire.com/open-sauce/phishing-has-been-around-long-enough-for-westpac-to-know.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/open-sauce/phishing-has-been-around-long-enough-for-westpac-to-know.html [03:14] TR Bot - Phishing has been around long enough for Westpac to know [03:14] TR News Control six separate RGB LED strips with a single Arduino Nano | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/27/control-six-separate-rgb-led-strips-with-a-single-arduino-nano/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/27/control-six-separate-rgb-led-strips-with-a-single-arduino-nano/ [03:14] TR Bot Control six separate RGB LED strips with a single Arduino Nano | Arduino Blog [03:15] TR News They're not "best". Being "smart" means they're worst in many aspects. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-android-flip-phones/ [03:15] TR Bot 6 of the Best Smart Flip Phones You Can Buy Right Now - Make Tech Easier [03:16] TR News "In this segment, we are going to discuss linux security and using the Rust programming language with an Offensive MindSet, and our guest Charles Shirer!" https://www.scmagazine.com/podcast-segment/linux-rust-retro-charles-shirer-psw-761 [03:16] TR Bot Linux Rust & Retro Charles Shirer PSW #761 | SC Media [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [03:20] *ryjen has quit (*.net *.split) [03:20] *Noisytoot has quit (*.net *.split) [03:22] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [03:22] *ryjen (~ryjen@159.203.7.32) has joined #techrights [03:28] TR News Dont Outsource Schools and Universities to Pentagon-Subsidised Agents of Oppression | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/outsourced-universities/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/outsourced-universities/ [03:28] TR Bot Dont Outsource Schools and Universities to Pentagon-Subsidised Agents of Oppression | Techrights [03:29] TR News Exteme mazes, Brevard NC edition gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/26.1 [03:30] TR News Cat9 And LASH Want To Change Your Linux Command Line | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/cat9-and-lash-want-to-change-your-linux-command-line/ [03:30] TR Bot And LASH Want To Change Your Linux Command Line | Hackaday [03:32] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@c4e9t8mshv26s.irc) has joined #techrights [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 124.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 125.13 ● Oct 27 [04:01] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Google just bumped Seamonkey Mail off and said insecure because I was using a Firefox 105 user agent. [04:01] DaemonFC It seems the "better" hack is to give it the current Thunderbird UA because it does not accept Firefox 102 as "secure" even though it's a ESR branch. [04:16] resistor well, such type of software is insecure, all of it [04:18] resistor watching a documentary about china meanwhile, with their social scoring system, and teenagers made happy with video games [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:26] DaemonFC https://i.redd.it/98cyrdg198w91.jpg [04:29] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR3], So your new Prime Minister is the Restaurant Scheme guy who spent over a billion GBP stolen from taxpayers who haven't even been born yet subsidizing restaurant meals for a month, increasing COVID cases by 17%. [04:29] DaemonFC Have fun with that, I guess. [04:57] starstreak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJj43ed7So [04:57] TR Bot https://y.com.sb/watch?v=tyJj43ed7So [04:57] TR Bot y.com.sb | UFO EXPERT DR. GREER REVEALS FIRST EVER PHOTO OF AN ALIEN - IMPAULSIVE EP. 107 - Invidious [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 41.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 174.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 108.90 ● Oct 27 [05:03] DaemonFC starstreak, Welp, the left has a potentially big problem on their hands in Illinois. [05:03] DaemonFC Pritzker has pissed so many people off that only about half the number of people in Chicago have early voted vs. this time in 2018. [05:03] DaemonFC Even though turnout is surging downstate. [05:04] DaemonFC I voted for Bailey and he may actually pull this off. [05:05] DaemonFC If the trend in Chicago holds through Election Day, then the only county that Pritzker was expected to do overwhelmingly well in (and largest in the state) is not as much of a factor. [05:06] DaemonFC It's possible they could all show up last minute or something, but it's interesting that they're not running down to the polls. Pritzker has been as uninspiring as most Democrats have been. [05:06] DaemonFC He's raised our taxes. He's ruined the state's economy. He put millions of people out of work, about 200,000 of them haven't found a job since he did it to them. [05:06] DaemonFC And now all they want to talk about is abortion. [05:07] DaemonFC Which is not enough to motivate people for him, but IS enough to wake up Republican voters. [05:08] DaemonFC The most likely people to be put out of work under Pritzker's "emergency" were poor working class black and latino service workers. [05:08] starstreak nobody cares [05:08] starstreak you're insane [05:08] DaemonFC So I think it's obvious why his support, the enthusiasm, in Chicago, is just gone. [05:08] scientes DaemonFC, tax revenue is irrelevent in the US [05:08] DaemonFC At the state level it's not. [05:09] scientes almost [05:09] DaemonFC They can't print more money. They have to borrow or tax. Illinois has taxed us to fucking death already and it still borrows at interest rates that would make the Russians blush. [05:09] DaemonFC This is all the fault of the Democrats. [05:10] scientes DaemonFC, what is the interest rate on toilet paper? [05:10] DaemonFC They've had unbroken unilateral control of the state government for almost 20 years now with the exception of 4 years of Rauner where Mike Madigan started overriding all of his vetoes anyway, including giving us a permanent 28% income tax hike. [05:11] DaemonFC I think that people have finally had enough, maybe. [05:11] DaemonFC The misery has just gotten to the point where they don't have the luxury of keeping this guy around anymore. [05:11] DaemonFC I sure don't. [05:11] DaemonFC I voted for Pritzker and now I'm voting for Bailey. [05:12] DaemonFC He won't be a powerful governor because the legislature is gerrymandered. [05:12] DaemonFC But maybe he can slow down theis tax and spend criminal-loving Democrat filth. [05:12] DaemonFC *this [05:14] DaemonFC DaemonFC, what is the interest rate on toilet paper? [05:14] DaemonFC I'm not sure that I follow. [05:15] DaemonFC The only nice thing about the SAFE-T Act is if I ever get pulled over for a traffic infraction again I can comfortably refuse to sign the ticket and the cop has absolutely no discretion to arrest. It's a non-detainable offense unless you commit at least a Class A Misdemeanor. [05:16] DaemonFC I asked the cop what he planned to do if I refused to sign the traffic ticket. Like, was he going to arrest me. [05:16] DaemonFC When he said, "No, I'm not going to arrest you. I'll just write refused and hand you a copy and you can be on your way." I refused to sign it. [05:17] DaemonFC It turned out the judge couldn't do much of anything because the idiots that ran into me leading to the cops framing me for running a red light failed to appear and the cops didn't see anything happen, so that diqualified them as witnesses. [05:17] DaemonFC So the state had to drop the charges. [05:17] DaemonFC I told the judge and the prosecutor to have a nice day. [05:18] DaemonFC Most lawyers advise you to just sign the ticket because the cops have the theoretical ability to arrest you and ruin your day if they feel like punishing you for being a smartass. [05:18] DaemonFC But the SAFE-T Act takes that away from them. [05:19] DaemonFC So I mean, like, you don't _have_ to sign the ticket just to avoid arrest unless it's a Class A Misdemeanor. If it's an A Misdmeanor and they offer to give you a summons if you sign to promise to appear, I'd suggest doing that. Obviously read it, but.... [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:20] DaemonFC But A Misdemeanor is usually where they arrest and book you automagically. [05:20] DaemonFC It rises to the seriousness where, they want to take you down there and sweat you a bit and see if they can get you to say something stupid that hurts you later. [05:21] DaemonFC They still want to do that for B and C, usually, maybe not a C, but usually (depends on how busy they are). The SAFE-T Act just lets you take the summons and leave. Do it. [05:21] DaemonFC And talk to nobody except your lawyer. [05:22] DaemonFC I'm sure that we'll see plenty of people in Cook and Lake county that are dumb enough to fuck this up. [05:22] DaemonFC Like punch the cop instead of take the summons, then it's a felony. :) [05:23] DaemonFC Most people who get pinched for a misdemeanor are not smart enough to take the ticket, say nothing, and leave. [05:42] DaemonFC "I saw a guy with a Ford Super Duty try to park it at an Indiana Walmart once when I lived there. After bashing it into the lamp post three times and doing an extreme amount of damage, he was still sitting there crying about it when I came out of the store 30 minutes later." [05:42] DaemonFC Me on Reddit. [05:42] DaemonFC The funne part was the guy wasn't even in reverse. [05:43] DaemonFC He was pulling in forward, hit the post, backed up, sat there for a moment, and then pulled in again and sideswiped the car, also bashing out the rear driver-side window. [05:52] DaemonFC "Sertraline was invented and developed by scientists at Pfizer and approved for medical use in the United States in 1991. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines.[15] It is available as a generic medication.[9] In 2016, sertraline was the most commonly prescribed psychiatric medication in the United States[16] and in 2020, it was the twelfth most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with over 38 [05:52] DaemonFC million prescriptions." [05:52] DaemonFC 38 million Americans on Zoloft and that's just Zoloft. [05:52] DaemonFC Someone's not happy. [05:53] DaemonFC "67% of men on sertraline experienced ejaculation difficulties versus 18% before the treatment." [05:54] DaemonFC "The FDA requires all antidepressants, including sertraline, to carry a boxed warning stating that antidepressants increase the risk of suicide in persons younger than 25 years. This warning is based on statistical analyses conducted by two independent groups of FDA experts that found a 100% increase of suicidal thoughts and behavior in children and adolescents, and a 50% increase in the 1824 age group." [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 101.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 120.96 ● Oct 27 [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:28] phanes any medication for depression is going to have those kinds of impacts because we don't understand the human brain very well. we know the chemicals and how some of them interact but don't have a holistic vision of it that's consistent between people. this is why you have to adapt and work through it. there's no magic intervention of the mind. [06:29] phanes even if there were it would just become a crutch [06:29] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/META#eyJpbnRlcnZhbCI6IndlZWsiLCJwZXJpb2RpY2l0eSI6MSwidGltZVVuaXQiOm51bGwsImNhbmRsZVdpZHRoIjo1Ljg2MjA2ODk2NTUxNzI0MSwiZmxpcHBlZCI6ZmFsc2UsInZvbHVtZVVuZGVybGF5Ijp0cnVlLCJhZGoiOnRydWUsImNyb3NzaGFpciI6dHJ1ZSwiY2hhcnRUeXBlIjoibGluZSIsImV4dGVuZGVkIjpmYWxzZSwibWFya2V0U2Vzc2lvbnMiOnt9LCJhZ2dyZWdhdGlvblR5cGUiOiJvaGxjIiwiY2hhcnRTY2FsZSI6ImxpbmVhciIsInN0dWRpZXMiOnsi4oCMdm9sIHVuZHLigIwiOnsidHlwZSI6InZvbCB1bmRyIiwiaW5wdXRzIjp7 [06:29] DaemonFC ImlkIjoi4oCMdm9sIHVuZHLigIwiLCJkaXNwbGF5Ijoi4oCMdm9sIHVuZHLigIwifSwib3V0cHV0cyI6eyJVcCBWb2x1bWUiOiIjMDBiMDYxIiwiRG93biBWb2x1bWUiOiIjZmYzMzNhIn0sInBhbmVsIjoiY2hhcnQiLCJwYXJhbWV0ZXJzIjp7IndpZHRoRmFjdG9yIjowLjQ1LCJjaGFydE5hbWUiOiJjaGFydCJ9fX0sInBhbmVscyI6eyJjaGFydCI6eyJwZXJjZW50IjoxLCJkaXNwbGF5IjoiTUVUQSIsImNoYXJ0TmFtZSI6ImNoYXJ0IiwiaW5kZXgiOjAsInlBeGlzIjp7Im5hbWUiOiJjaGFydCIsInBvc2l0aW9uIjpudWxsfSwieWF4aXNMSFMiOltdLCJ5YXhpc1JIUyI6WyJjaGFydCIsIuKAj [06:29] DaemonFC HZvbCB1bmRy4oCMIl19fSwic2V0U3BhbiI6eyJtdWx0aXBsaWVyIjo1LCJiYXNlIjoieWVhciIsInBlcmlvZGljaXR5Ijp7InBlcmlvZCI6MSwiaW50ZXJ2YWwiOiJ3ZWVrIn19LCJsaW5lV2lkdGgiOjIsInN0cmlwZWRCYWNrZ3JvdW5kIjp0cnVlLCJldmVudHMiOnRydWUsImNvbG9yIjoiIzAwODFmMiIsInN0cmlwZWRCYWNrZ3JvdWQiOnRydWUsImV2ZW50TWFwIjp7ImNvcnBvcmF0ZSI6eyJkaXZzIjp0cnVlLCJzcGxpdHMiOnRydWV9LCJzaWdEZXYiOnt9fSwiY3VzdG9tUmFuZ2UiOm51bGwsInN5bWJvbHMiOlt7InN5bWJvbCI6Ik1FVEEiLCJzeW1ib2xPYmplY3QiOnsic3ltYm9sIjoiTU [06:29] TR Bot META Interactive Stock Chart | Meta Platforms, Inc. Stock - Yahoo Finance [06:29] DaemonFC VUQSIsInF1b3RlVHlwZSI6IkVRVUlUWSIsImV4Y2hhbmdlVGltZVpvbmUiOiJBbWVyaWNhL05ld19Zb3JrIn0sInBlcmlvZGljaXR5IjoxLCJpbnRlcnZhbCI6IndlZWsiLCJ0aW1lVW5pdCI6bnVsbCwic2V0U3BhbiI6eyJtdWx0aXBsaWVyIjo1LCJiYXNlIjoieWVhciIsInBlcmlvZGljaXR5Ijp7InBlcmlvZCI6MSwiaW50ZXJ2YWwiOiJ3ZWVrIn19fV19 [06:29] DaemonFC Oh shit. [06:29] DaemonFC Oops. [06:29] DaemonFC Uh, anyway. [06:29] DaemonFC Facebook fell to $104 a share after hours. [06:30] DaemonFC Down from like $378 at their height in September last year. [06:30] DaemonFC And that's with everything out there costing like 30% more this year. The rent, the food, you know. [06:30] DaemonFC They lie about inflation. [06:31] phanes yeah zuccy is on his way out. he was always a one trick pony and it wasn't even his pony. [06:31] DaemonFC Biden's having a special on eggs and butter. [06:32] DaemonFC You pay for three dozen eggs, they only give you a dozen. You pay for two pounds of butter, you only get one. :) [06:33] phanes he's got a point [06:33] phanes if this all collapses, the amish won't even notice [06:45] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 154.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.10 ● Oct 27 [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:28] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:34] *KiKi (~KiKi@vvbde374bfqga.irc) has joined #techrights [07:34] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, October 26, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:34] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [07:34] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:34] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:39] TR News "Its time to get me up to speed with modern CSS. Theres so much new in CSS that I know too little about." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day23/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic [07:39] TR Bot Day 23: the lab() color function - Manuel Matuzovi [07:40] TR News "I don't get much spam email in general and I get even less that has malware payloads" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/PhishViaFiletypeConfusion | Source: uni Toronto [07:40] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/spam/PhishViaFiletypeConfusion [07:40] *psydread (eace4d91cc@freenode-507fjm.1irb.ouao.8fsqam.IP) has joined #techrights [07:40] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #techrights [07:40] TR News "flaws of distro hopping" https://unixsheikh.com/articles/my-choice-of-operating-system.html | Source: Unix Sheikh [07:40] TR Bot My choice of operating system [07:41] TR News "This is my report from the Netfilter Workshop 2022." https://ral-arturo.org/2022/10/25/nfws2022.html | [07:41] TR Bot Netfilter Workshop 2022 summary [07:42] TR News "Zig Is Self-Hosted Now" https://kristoff.it/blog/zig-self-hosted-now-what/ "Lets take a look at whats next for the Zig project." | Source: Loris Cro [07:42] TR Bot Zig Is Self-Hosted Now, What's Next? | Loris Cro's Blog [07:43] TR News "The technology, which alleviates red-green CVD for about four out of five users with the condition" https://hyperallergic.com/771685/dallas-art-museum-color-blind-visitors-enchroma/ | Source: HyperAllergic [07:43] TR Bot A Better Museum Experience for Color-Blind Visitors [07:46] TR News "These "heavy tweeters" account for less than 10% of monthly overall users but generate 90% of all tweets" https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-where-did-tweeters-go-twitter-is-losing-its-most-active-users-internal-2022-10-25/ | Source: Reuters [07:46] TR Bot Twitter is losing its most active users, internal documents show | Reuters [07:47] TR News "Heavy tweeters have been in "absolute decline" since the pandemic began, a Twitter researcher wrote in an internal document titled Where did the Tweeters Go?" https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-where-did-tweeters-go-twitter-is-losing-its-most-active-users-internal-2022-10-25/ [07:50] TR News "there is no surety over whether the training data comes as fair use under copyright law" https://analyticsindiamag.com/github-copilot-the-latest-in-the-list-of-ai-generative-models-facing-copyright-allegations/ | Source: AIM [07:50] TR Bot GitHub Copilot: The Latest in the List of AI Generative Models Facing Copyright Allegations [07:50] TR News "If I price an ebook at $9.99, I make about $7 at any distributor." https://mwl.io/archives/12806 | Source: MWL [07:50] TR Bot My Inevitable(?) Amazon Tech Ebook Exit Michael W Lucas [07:52] TR News assange https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/10/25/cia-sued-for-spying-on-americans-who-visited-julian-assange/ [07:52] TR Bot CIA Sued for Spying on Americans Who Visited Julian Assange neritam [07:54] TR News Twitter dying faster than anyone imagined https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11354081/Twitter-losing-active-users-internal-documents-show.html [07:54] TR Bot Is Twitter dying? Heavy tweeters account for just 10% of its users | Daily Mail Online [07:55] TR News "Dokuwiki is an open-source wiki software written in PHP, and it doesnt require a database. It was developed by Andreas Gohr in 2004." https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-dokuwiki-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting [07:55] TR Bot to Install Dokuwiki on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting [07:56] TR News "This tutorial will help you install Ubuntu 22.10 operating system into your computer explained with pictures step by step." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/how-to-install-ubuntu-2210-with-dualboot-uefi-and-external-disk-methods.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [07:56] TR Bot How To Install Ubuntu 22.10 with Dualboot UEFI and External Disk Methods [07:58] TR News After Install Guide for Ubuntu 22.10 with Apps and Games Recommendations https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/after-install-guide-for-ubuntu-2210-with-apps-and-games-recommendations.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [07:58] TR Bot After Install Guide for Ubuntu 22.10 with Apps and Games Recommendations [07:58] TR News "Want to play Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves on Linux desktop? It works out of the box on Steam Deck, but on Linux desktop it needed some launch options" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/ge-proton-7-38-is-out-now-fixing-up-uncharted-legacy-of-thieves/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:58] TR Bot 7-38 is out now fixing up Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves | GamingOnLinux [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 103.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 111.26 ● Oct 27 [08:01] TR News "Just short of two months after hitting 5,000" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-deck-hits-over-6000-games-marked-verified-or-playable/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:01] TR Bot Deck hits over 6,000 games marked Verified or Playable | GamingOnLinux [08:01] TR News Yuppie Psycho: Executive Edition https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/yuppie-psycho-executive-edition-upgraded-with-full-linux-steam-deck-compatibility/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:01] TR Bot Psycho: Executive Edition upgraded with full Linux / Steam Deck compatibility | GamingOnLinux [08:02] TR News "EA has begun the process of swapping from Origin to the EA app on Steam" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/ea-begins-swapping-out-origin-for-ea-app-on-steam/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:02] TR Bot begins swapping out Origin for EA app on Steam | GamingOnLinux [08:03] TR News The Witcher Remake https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/cd-projekt-red-announce-the-witcher-remake-in-unreal-engine-5/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:03] TR Bot PROJEKT RED announce The Witcher Remake in Unreal Engine 5 | GamingOnLinux [08:05] TR News "Fswatch is a free, open source multi-platform file change monitor utility" https://ostechnix.com/monitor-file-changes-using-fswatch-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix [08:05] TR Bot To Monitor File Changes Using fswatch In Linux - OSTechNix [08:05] TR News Mozilla is a posturing company https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/product-manager-career-firefox-relay/ | Source: Mozilla [08:05] TR Bot A Mozilla product manager on his career path and what creating safe spaces online means to him [08:05] TR News "helpful to be aware of a few cybersecurity tips for Linux users so that you can improve your protection" https://www.unixmen.com/how-linux-users-can-protect-their-business/ | Source: Unix Men [08:05] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/how-linux-users-can-protect-their-business/ ) [08:06] TR News "Volkswagen Group has now formally pledged funding towards Blender" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/volkswagen-begins-funding-blender-development/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:06] TR Bot begins funding Blender development | GamingOnLinux [08:06] TR News "JSAUX were getting close to release another (yes, another) Steam Deck Docking Station" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/jsaux-cancels-current-steam-deck-dock-with-rgb-after-competitor-pinched-it/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:06] TR Bot cancels current Steam Deck Dock with RGB, after competitor pinched it | GamingOnLinux [08:08] TR News "I am curious about the tech savvy patrons of The Midnight (which is likely many of us, though no trouble if one is not) about how they got into (web) development, computers, in general?" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1157 [08:11] TR News Physical Mail https://truthout.org/articles/physical-mail-was-my-lifeline-to-the-outside-world-and-now-its-gone/ | Source: TruthOut [08:11] TR Bot Physical Mail Was My Lifeline to the Outside World and Now Its Gone [08:14] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [08:19] matteobin Good morning! [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:22] TR News Homestead https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/rebuilding-the-homstead/ | Source: The Nation [08:22] TR Bot How Black Landowners in the South Are Recovering Lost Generational Wealth [08:23] TR News "Health is the most important aspect of your life!" gemini://snonux.land/gemfeed/2022-10-27-if-health-isnt-there.gmi [08:26] TR News sanders https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-slams-republicans-plans-to-cut-social-security-and-medicare-in-op-ed/ | Source: TruthOut [08:26] TR Bot Sanders Slams Republicans Plans to Cut Social Security and Medicare in Op-Ed [08:27] schestowitz[TR3] matteobin: 0/ [08:29] TR News (NEW): Games: Witcher, Blender, and Much More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Games_Witcher_Blender_and_Much_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Games_Witcher_Blender_and_Much_More.gmi [08:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Witcher, Blender, and Much More [08:29] *psydread (eace4d91cc@freenode-507fjm.1irb.ouao.8fsqam.IP) has left #techrights [08:30] *psydread (eace4d91cc@freenode-fvj.6po.iua1uf.IP) has joined #techrights [08:30] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.gmi [08:30] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [08:31] TR News "It is no secret that to be a true Linux power user you have to deal with the command line." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/cat9-and-lash-want-to-change-your-linux-command-line/ | Source: Hackaday [08:31] TR Bot And LASH Want To Change Your Linux Command Line | Hackaday [08:34] TR News Cyberpunk https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/skull-lamp-illuminates-the-cyberpunk-future/ | Source: Hackaday [08:34] TR Bot Lamp Illuminates The Cyberpunk Future | Hackaday [08:35] TR News Digital Hourglass https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/digital-hourglass-counts-down-the-seconds/ | Source: Hackaday [08:35] TR Bot Hourglass Counts Down The Seconds | Hackaday [08:37] TR News Cisco https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/flashing-booby-trapped-cisco-ap-with-openwrt-the-hard-way/ ">Certain manufacturers seriously dislike open-source firmware for their devices" [08:37] TR Bot Booby-Trapped Cisco AP With OpenWRT, The Hard Way | Hackaday [08:39] scientes > if not for the Ciscos malicious decision to permanently brick the CPU as soon as you enter Uboot through the serial port [08:39] scientes geeze [08:39] scientes is that MIT's decision [08:39] scientes (that is where Meraki comes from) [08:43] TR News "This is an emergency release resolving an issue with Tor Browser 11.5.5's integration of the Snowflake pluggable transport." https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1156/ | Source: Tor [08:43] TR Bot New Release: Tor Browser 11.5.6 (Android, Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project [08:43] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [08:44] TR News public domain https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/unfortunately-paying-for-the-public-domain-already-exists-in-many-countries/ | Source: Techdirt [08:44] TR Bot Paying For The Public Domain Already Exists In Many Countries | Techdirt [08:44] TR News "The operator of several "AI" powered music mixer and extractor sites has responded to the RIAA's copyright infringement allegations." https://torrentfreak.com/ai-powered-music-mixer-responds-to-riaas-copyright-infringement-claims-221026/ | Source: Torrent Freak [08:44] TR Bot Music Mixer Responds to RIAA Copyright Infringement Claims * TorrentFreak [08:45] TR News "Amid claims that live sports piracy in France was recently cut in half" https://torrentfreak.com/france-15-of-blocked-live-sports-pirates-go-legal-46-pirate-elsewhere-221026/ | Source: Torrent Freak [08:45] TR Bot 15% of Blocked Live Sports Pirates Go Legal, 46% Pirate Elsewhere * TorrentFreak [08:46] TR News "Election Denial" is what Bill Gates-bribed Pro Publica collectively calls rejection of back-doored Windows voting machines https://www.propublica.org/article/uline-uihlein-election-denial [08:46] TR Bot How the Uline Box Empire Has Fueled Election Denial ProPublica [08:48] TR News encryption https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/signal-says-it-will-exit-india-rather-than-compromise-its-encryption/ | Source: Techdirt [08:48] TR Bot Says It Will Exit India Rather Than Compromise Its Encryption | Techdirt [08:49] TR News brazil https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/brazils-governments-amps-up-anti-free-speech-tactics-ahead-of-national-election/ | Source: Techdirt [08:49] TR Bot Governments Amps Up Anti-Free Speech Tactics Ahead Of National Election | Techdirt [08:50] TR News "kinetic cyclic scissors sculpture out of 3D printed bars" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/kinetic-cyclic-scissors/ | Source: Hackaday [08:50] TR Bot Cyclic Scissors | Hackaday [08:51] TR News Comcast https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/comcast-forces-users-to-buy-comcast-hardware-if-they-want-faster-upload-speeds/ | Source: Techdirt [08:51] TR Bot Forces Users To Buy Comcast Hardware If They Want Faster Upload Speeds | Techdirt [08:52] TR News Chelsea Manning https://thedissenter.org/chelsea-manning-us-military-pressured-me-to-plead-guilty-to-aiding-the-enemy/ | Source: The Dissenter [08:52] TR Bot US Pressured Chelsea Manning To Plead Guilty To Treason [08:53] TR News Section 230 https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/reddit-wins-against-fosta-lawsuit-9th-circuit-says-fosta-requires-knowledge-of-violation/ | Source: Techdirt [08:53] TR Bot Wins Against FOSTA Lawsuit: 9th Circuit Says FOSTA Requires Knowledge Of Violation | Techdirt [08:55] TR News End the war, don't "win" the war. Wars have only losers. [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 123.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.16 ● Oct 27 [09:01] TR News IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/irc-log-261022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/irc-log-261022/ [09:01] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 | Techrights [09:03] TR News "denialism" https://www.projectcensored.org/electoral-denialism-cuts-across-party-lines-despite-what-the-corporate-media-would-have-us-believe-both-parties-engage-in-the-big-lie-and-the-rest-of-lose-because-of-it/ | Source: Project Censored [09:03] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/electoral-denialism-cuts-across-party-lines-despite-what-the-corporate-media-would-have-us-believe-both-parties-engage-in-the-big-lie-and-the-rest-of-lose-because-of-it/ ) [09:03] *matteobin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:04] TR News "Russian Internet Safety League" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/26/russian-internet-safety-advocate-denounces-rapper-oxxxymiron-for-lyrics-allegedly-calling-for-st-petersburg-s-secession | Source: Meduza [09:04] TR Bot NO TITLE [09:09] TR News "working people haven't seen a real pay increase" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/26/new-survey-suggests-populist-economic-message-can-help-dems-prevail-midterms | Source: Common Dreams [09:09] TR Bot New Survey Suggests Populist Economic Message Can Help Dems Prevail in Midterms [09:09] TR News "Aggressive Profiteering" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/26/citing-aggressive-profiteering-sanders-and-warren-urge-ftc-stop-kroger-albertsons | Source: Common Dreams [09:09] TR Bot Citing 'Aggressive Profiteering,' Sanders and Warren Urge FTC to Stop Kroger-Albertsons Merger [09:10] TR News "Fed Is Using 'Flat Wrong' Analysis" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/26/afl-cio-economist-warns-fed-using-flat-wrong-analysis-inflict-pain-workers | Source: Common Dreams [09:10] TR Bot AFL-CIO Economist Warns Fed Is Using 'Flat Wrong' Analysis to Inflict Pain on Workers [09:11] TR News Oligarchy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/26/us-oligarchy-getting-exactly-kind-election-it-paid | Source: Common Dreams [09:11] TR Bot Opinion | The US Oligarchy Is Getting Exactly the Kind of Election It Paid For | Thom Hartmann [09:14] TR News left-leaning sites try to associate hand-counting votes (which is the right thing to do) with "Big Lie Conspiracy" "https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/26/fueled-big-lie-conspiracy-gop-officials-move-hand-counts-arizona-nevada [09:14] TR Bot Fueled by Big Lie Conspiracy, GOP Officials Move to Hand Counts in Arizona, Nevada [09:14] TR News "information whose distribution is banned" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/26/russian-economic-development-ministry-drafts-bill-to-extend-existing-content-bans-to-video-games | Source: Meduza [09:14] TR Bot NO TITLE [09:15] TR News "Embedding Content" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/why-embedding-content-matters/ | Source: Techdirt [09:15] TR Bot Embedding Content Matters | Techdirt [09:16] TR News "Governments set up rules governing how they govern. Then they ignore them. So, whats the point?" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/investigation-child-protective-services-agencies-nearly-always-blow-off-warrant-requirements-to-enter-homes/ | Source: Techdirt [09:16] TR Bot Child Protective Services Agencies Nearly Always Blow Off Warrant Requirements To Enter Homes | Techdirt [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:20] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@s9xek7hahrdji.irc) has joined #techrights [09:32] TR News (NEW): Kernel: Performance, Graphics, Netfilter, Rust, and 486 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Kernel_Performance_Graphics_Netfilter_Rust_and_486.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Kernel_Performance_Graphics_Netfilter_Rust_and_486.gmi [09:32] TR Bot Tux Machines Kernel: Performance, Graphics, Netfilter, Rust, and 486 [09:33] TR News (NEW): Ubuntu Membership Boards http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Ubuntu_Membership_Boards.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Ubuntu_Membership_Boards.gmi [09:33] TR Bot Tux Machines Ubuntu Membership Boards [09:33] TR News (NEW): Autonomy: Open Hardware and Self-Hosting http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Autonomy_Open_Hardware_and_Self_Hosting.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Autonomy_Open_Hardware_and_Self_Hosting.gmi [09:33] TR Bot Tux Machines Autonomy: Open Hardware and Self-Hosting [09:33] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.gmi [09:33] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [09:33] TR News (NEW): Distros: Hopping, systemd-free Options, and Red Hat "Customer Success" http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Distros_Hopping_systemd_free_Options_and_Red_Hat_Customer_Succe.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Distros_Hopping_systemd_free_Options_and_Red_Hat_Customer_Succe.gmi [09:33] TR Bot Tux Machines Distros: Hopping, systemd-free Options, and Red Hat "Customer Success" [09:36] TR News Links 27/10/2022: Important Bugfixes in Linux and Tor | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/bugfixes-in-linux-and-tor/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/bugfixes-in-linux-and-tor/ [09:36] TR Bot Links 27/10/2022: Important Bugfixes in Linux and Tor | Techrights [09:57] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 27 [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:45] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:45] *horseface (~horseface@j4tth6n46azx8.irc) has joined #techrights [10:54] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [10:59] *psydread (eace4d91cc@freenode-fvj.6po.iua1uf.IP) has left #techrights [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 110.53 ● Oct 27 [11:05] *matteobin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:11] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #techrights [11:19] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:25] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:27] *techuser (~techuser@tqrtt4p8kcxpw.irc) has joined #techrights [11:27] TR News Theres No Future for Investigative Journalism on the World Wide Web | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/world-wide-web-news-killer/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/world-wide-web-news-killer/ [11:27] TR Bot Theres No Future for Investigative Journalism on the World Wide Web | Techrights [11:54] *matteobin has quit (Quit: leaving) [11:56] TR News E-mail is Simple, Secure and Robust If Decentralised and Treated as Text, Not as Web Pages (Also, Webmail is Regressive) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/keep-email-simple/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/keep-email-simple/ [11:56] TR Bot E-mail is Simple, Secure and Robust If Decentralised and Treated as Text, Not as Web Pages (Also, Webmail is Regressive) | Techrights [11:59] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 27 [12:01] *techuser (~techuser@acq5qqvgi8e2a.irc) has joined #techrights [12:03] *horseface has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) [12:03] *horseface (~horseface@j4tth6n46azx8.irc) has joined #techrights [12:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [12:16] *psydread (eace4d91cc@freenode-507fjm.1irb.ouao.8fsqam.IP) has joined #techrights [12:17] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@ny3pw6dxcxvgs.irc) has joined #techrights [12:17] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:17] *psydread (eace4d91cc@freenode-507fjm.1irb.ouao.8fsqam.IP) has left #techrights [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [12:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [12:40] *horseface has quit (connection closed) [12:42] TR News (NEW): WiFi HaLow IoT gateway is based on Morse Micro MM6108 802.11ah chip http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/WiFi_HaLow_IoT_gateway_is_based_on_Morse_Micro_MM6108_802_11ah_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/WiFi_HaLow_IoT_gateway_is_based_on_Morse_Micro_MM6108_802_11ah_.gmi [12:42] TR Bot Tux Machines WiFi HaLow IoT gateway is based on Morse Micro MM6108 802.11ah chip [12:49] TR News Critics of Voting Machines (Proprietary With Back Doors) Arent Nazis | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/ [12:49] TR Bot Critics of Voting Machines (Proprietary With Back Doors) Arent Nazis | Techrights [12:50] MinceR http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2483 [12:50] TR Bot Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 10/13/2022 [12:56] *horseface (~horseface@5x5s3vcpnr55g.irc) has joined #techrights [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 135.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 119.46 ● Oct 27 [13:03] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMA97yQZ4zk [13:03] TR Bot https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=NMA97yQZ4zk [13:04] TR Bot invidious.snopyta.org | The DOOM Plasma Rifle - A Technical Analysis - Invidious [13:11] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Android_Leftovers.gmi [13:11] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:25] TR News Lets Put an End to Software Patents by Contacting Our Representatives (Politicians) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/eu-swpats-action-needed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/eu-swpats-action-needed/ [13:25] TR Bot Lets Put an End to Software Patents by Contacting Our Representatives (Politicians) | Techrights [13:27] TR News Software Patents in Europe - page now exceeds 700k views. http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_Europe [13:27] TR Bot Software Patents in Europe - Techrights ● Oct 27 [14:14] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:17] TR News Elon Musk is Buying a Dying Train Wreck Tomorrow (Twitter) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/buying-a-dying-train-wreck/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/buying-a-dying-train-wreck/ [14:17] TR Bot Elon Musk is Buying a Dying Train Wreck Tomorrow (Twitter) | Techrights [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:23] TR News The internet is broken due to structural injustice | Ariadne's Space https://ariadne.space/2022/10/27/the-internet-is-broken-due-to-structural-injustice/ Source: Ariadne Conill | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ariadne.space/2022/10/27/the-internet-is-broken-due-to-structural-injustice/ [14:23] TR Bot The internet is broken due to structural injustice | Ariadne's Space [14:23] *KiKi has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:25] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Today_in_Techrights.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Today_in_Techrights.1.gmi [14:25] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [14:30] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2210022 [14:30] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://imgur.com/4k11Vcy.jpg created on 2022-10-02 00:46:08.952306 [14:31] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://itwire.com/security/australian-firms-hit-by-industrial-ransomware-in-3q,-sec-firm-dragos-claims.html [14:31] TR Bot - Australian firms hit by industrial ransomware in 3Q, sec firm Dragos claims [14:31] TR News "The next instalment of the Medibank Group data breach has arrived, with the company confessing on Thursday that patient information from My Home Hospital had also been accessed by an attacker." https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/medibank-says-my-home-hospital-also-hit,-pii-and-health-data-accessed.html [14:32] TR Bot - Medibank says My Home Hospital also hit, PII and health data accessed [14:32] TR News "Almost nine months after it experienced what it terms a "cyber incident", private pathology practice Medlab Pathology has issued a statement about the incident in which Medicare details and credit card numbers of staff and patients were stolen." https://itwire.com/security/pathology-practice-medlab-reveals-data-breach-after-nine-months.html [14:32] TR Bot - Pathology practice Medlab reveals data breach after nine months [14:33] TR News 7 Linux commands to gather information about your system | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-system-info-commands Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-system-info-commands [14:33] TR Bot 7 Linux commands to gather information about your system | Enable Sysadmin [14:34] TR News "Open Source in Enterprise Environments, Your Comprehensive Guide to rc(8): FreeBSD Services and Automation, How Rob Pike got hired by Dennis Richie, what FreeBSD machines rubenerd uses, new debugbreak command, 7 sudo myths debunked" https://www.bsdnow.tv/478 [14:34] TR Bot BSD Now 478: Debunking sudo myths [14:35] TR News Australian Health Insurer Medibank Suffers Breach Exposing 3.9 Million Customers' Data https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/australian-health-insurer-medibank.html Source: Hacker News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thehackernews.com/2022/10/australian-health-insurer-medibank.html [14:35] TR Bot Australian Health Insurer Medibank Suffers Breach Exposing 3.9 Million Customers' Data [14:36] TR News Don't put listening devices anywhere near you; they DO NOT function as advertised!!! https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/apple-ios-and-macos-flaw-couldve-let.html [14:36] TR Bot Apple iOS and macOS Flaw Could've Let Apps Eavesdrop on Your Conversations with Siri [14:37] TR News Doctors may be punished in California. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/27/cristian-terhes-eppo/ [14:37] TR Bot Blog Archive Lots of Money Wasted on Overpriced Products That Do Not Curb COVID-19s Spread as Advertised [14:37] TR News Its easy to get distracted by the media and think that Googles manipulation of E-mail traffic is a political rather than a corporate issue http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/google-email-domination/ [14:37] TR Bot Political Bias is a Distraction From Googles Abuse of Power Over E-mail | Techrights [14:37] TR News Any nations democracy is at risk from social control media giants that are for-profit corporations and not communication tools (meddling and interference is their main business model, if any viable business model exists at all) http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/social-media-vs-democracy/ [14:37] TR Bot Its Naive to Believe Foreign For-Profit Corporations Will Guard Democracy Online | Techrights [14:38] TR News The so-called Linux Foundation (run partly by Microsoft) helps Microsoft attack R, e.g. by taking on the R Foundation http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/r-foundation-and-linux-foundation/ [14:38] TR Bot The R Foundation and R Consortium Arent the Same; One is a Front Group for Corporations Like Microsoft | Techrights [14:38] TR News Techrights has been working behind the scenes to curtail software patenting; more information will come out soon http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/papers-swpats-apple-and-upc/ [14:38] TR Bot Pushing Back Against Software Patents and More | Techrights [14:38] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/O6w5CFg.jpeg [14:39] TR News Technology has turned from a tool of enablement and emancipation into a facilitator of oppression and subjugation over those using it (or being used, remotely, by the real owners) http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/outsourced-universities/ [14:39] TR Bot Dont Outsource Schools and Universities to Pentagon-Subsidised Agents of Oppression | Techrights [14:40] *matteobin has quit (Quit: leaving) [14:40] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [14:40] *phobos has quit (Connection closed) [14:41] TR News On the World Wide Web*, journalism is perishing; there are several reasons for this, but its simply a reality weve come to accept http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/world-wide-web-news-killer/ [14:41] TR Bot Theres No Future for Investigative Journalism on the World Wide Web | Techrights [14:41] TR News E-mail has become a sordid mess; even though E-mail by far predates the Web (nowadays its almost exclusively the latter) what many folks refer to as E-mail is basically some Web site and messages are in fact Web pages, not text http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/keep-email-simple/ [14:41] TR Bot E-mail is Simple, Secure and Robust If Decentralised and Treated as Text, Not as Web Pages (Also, Webmail is Regressive) | Techrights [14:41] TR News Techrights 10 new videos in 13 hours. New record for sure. [14:42] TR News The general security of the voting process (freedom from meddling, tampering, outside intervention) has gotten worse due to digitisation/digitalisation, which makes the process more easily accessible to foreign and hostile countries http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/ [14:42] TR Bot Critics of Voting Machines (Proprietary With Back Doors) Arent Nazis | Techrights [14:42] TR News A call for participation by readers, seeing that the EFF quit doing activism in this domain and the Patent Maximalism Lobby makes some gains by misleading our politicians http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/eu-swpats-action-needed/ [14:42] TR Bot Lets Put an End to Software Patents by Contacting Our Representatives (Politicians) | Techrights [14:42] TR News The disingenuous takeover by Elon Musk and associates (including the Saudi royal family, in dire need of reputation laundering) is a disaster in the making; Twitter is going to die even faster than before http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/buying-a-dying-train-wreck/ [14:42] TR Bot Elon Musk is Buying a Dying Train Wreck Tomorrow (Twitter) | Techrights [14:46] TR News Canonical's Adding a Neat Ability to the Steam Snap App for Gamers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/What_The_Steam_snap_is_evolving.shtml [14:46] TR Bot Tux Machines What? The Steam snap is evolving! (UPDATED) [14:52] TR News "Content note: This statement contains references to indiscriminate violence and acts potentially amounting to mass murder, and war crimes." https://www.accessnow.org/myanmar-internet-shutdown-hpakant/ [14:52] TR Bot Internet shutdowns shroud and facilitate brutality of Myanmar juntas airstrike in Hpakant township - Access Now [14:53] TR News (UPDATED): What? The Steam snap is evolving! (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/What_The_Steam_snap_is_evolving.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/What_The_Steam_snap_is_evolving.gmi [14:55] TR News Canonical: clown computing RESELLER for Pentagon (GAFAM) https://ubuntu.com//blog/aws-pricing [14:56] TR Bot AWS pricing | Ubuntu [14:56] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [14:56] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [14:58] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi [14:58] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 133.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 126.61 ● Oct 27 [15:04] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:04] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:10] TR News (NEW): Zorin OS 16.2 Arrives as a Friendly and Accessible Alternative to Windows 11 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Zorin_OS_16_2_Arrives_as_a_Friendly_and_Accessible_Alternative_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Zorin_OS_16_2_Arrives_as_a_Friendly_and_Accessible_Alternative_.gmi [15:10] TR Bot Tux Machines Zorin OS 16.2 Arrives as a Friendly and Accessible Alternative to Windows 11 [15:12] TR News Elektrobit partners with Canonical to pave the way to a new era of software-defined vehicles | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/elektrobit-partners-with-canonical Source: Ubuntubuzz | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/elektrobit-partners-with-canonical [15:12] TR Bot partners with Canonical to pave the way to a new era of software-defined vehicles | Ubuntu [15:12] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:19] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:25] *techuser (~techuser@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #techrights [15:29] TR News (NEW): The GNOME Project is closing all its mailing lists http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_GNOME_Project_is_closing_all_its_mailing_lists.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_GNOME_Project_is_closing_all_its_mailing_lists.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines The GNOME Project is closing all its mailing lists [15:30] matteobin Really?! [15:30] matteobin That's insane and sad! [15:31] schestowitz[TR3] abandoning email for "web" (JS crap, bloat, hard to maintain in the long run -> data loss) [15:31] schestowitz[TR3] discussed in another channel atm [15:31] matteobin Mailing lists are way better than forums! [15:31] matteobin Which one? [15:31] matteobin I do like forums though. [15:33] schestowitz[TR3] Not just data loss but financial loss since HTML mail in general and web mail [15:33] schestowitz[TR3] in particular make it not just feasible but easy to phish at the same time [15:33] schestowitz[TR3] it makes it all but impossible to avoid phishing other than by acting on [15:33] schestowitz[TR3] hunches or clues because all the real information is hidden. Beyond hiding, [15:33] schestowitz[TR3] your old friend javascript can be used to obfuscate the true destination [15:33] schestowitz[TR3] of various embedded links. So "hovering" over them will give a false message. [15:34] schestowitz[TR3] matteobin: in #boycottnovell (old channel, 2008-present) [15:40] TR News Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 3: serial driver https://drewdevault.com/2022/10/27/Kernel-hacking-with-Hare-part-3.html Source: Drew DeVault | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//drewdevault.com/2022/10/27/Kernel-hacking-with-Hare-part-3.html [15:40] TR Bot Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 3: serial driver [15:40] matteobin Thanks! [15:41] TR News Kernel 6.1-rc# might break backlight control on old/weird laptops, please test LiveJournal https://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/26427.html Source: hansdegoede | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//hansdegoede.livejournal.com/26427.html [15:41] TR Bot Kernel 6.1-rc# might break backlight control on old/weird laptops, please test: hansdegoede LiveJournal [15:41] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:49] *techuser (~techuser@6v8cjbvydcdre.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 27 [16:06] TR News Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/ [16:06] TR Bot Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights [16:09] TR News Even proprietary CHROME is NOT doing THIS: http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/ [16:09] TR News Who is Mozilla trying to impress??? http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla [16:09] TR Bot Mozilla - Techrights [16:10] TR News The next iteration of the Firefox logo will have a shopping basket instead of a fox. [16:16] TR News (NEW): GNUnet 0.18.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/GNUnet_0_18_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/GNUnet_0_18_0_released.gmi [16:16] TR Bot Tux Machines GNUnet 0.18.0 released [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:28] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [16:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@s9xek7hahrdji.irc) has joined #techrights [16:31] TR News hwmon: Add Ampere's Altra smpro-hwmon driver https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git/commit/?h=hwmon-next&id=a87456864cbbde10cbc200387c75a2336be270e5 [16:31] TR Bot kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git - hwmon staging tree [16:32] TR News "The next Nvidia Spectrum ASIC will support 800Gbps speed." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/commit/?id=ea5ed0f00b07d5aba09189729d54751c98494f25 [16:32] TR Bot kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git - Netdev Group's -next networking tree [16:39] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:45] *techuser (~techuser@n68viisyfs3wn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:48] TR News New NHS data: COVID-19 TESTS are down. Yay!! VICTORY! We're not checking infections. [16:51] TR News Soon 210,000 COVID-19-linked deaths in the UK. About 2000 EXTRA deaths each WEEK, not attributed to COVID-19 because we're not properly testing or checking the root causes. [16:52] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:52] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:53] TR News To know what's going on with COVID-19 in the UK follow ONS for estimates of fatalities/victims/casualties of the surge of COVID-19. It's about 2000 more people PER WEEK (than before pandemic). That's almost 10,000 EXTRA deaths PER MONTH. The media doesn't talk about this. [16:53] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:55] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2210020 [16:55] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/kin3z8p030r91.jpg created on 2022-10-02 00:23:54.658435 [16:55] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@s9xek7hahrdji.irc) has joined #techrights [16:55] TR News Corporate media: Don't mind COVID. Go shopping. Shop till you drop. Literally. ~9k extra deaths per month, but COVID is "solved". The vaccines solved EVERYTHING! [16:59] TR News ICBM selling extra complexity (vendor lockin) under the auspices of "digital transformation" or "modernisation" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/digital-transformation-questions-help-drive-momentum [16:59] TR Bot Digital transformation: 4 questions to help drive momentum | The Enterprisers Project [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 76.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.31 ● Oct 27 [17:00] TR News Fedora 'community' = ICBM STAFF https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/youre-invited-to-the-fedora-linux-37-release-party/ megacorporations rebrand as "communities" [17:00] TR Bot You're invited to the Fedora Linux 37 Release Party! Fedora Community Blog [17:02] TR News Why the 'true fans' model is great not only for creators, but for entrepreneurs too - Walled Culture https://walledculture.org/why-the-true-fans-model-is-great-not-only-for-creators-but-for-entrepreneurs-too/ [17:02] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/why-the-true-fans-model-is-great-not-only-for-creators-but-for-entrepreneurs-too/ ) [17:04] TR News Timothy Prickett Morgan reduced to obedient (sponsored) megaphone of Gartner and IDC https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/27/datacenter-is-the-hot-spot-in-it-spending-in-2022/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group http://techrights.org/wiki/IDC [17:04] TR Bot Datacenter Is The Hot Spot In IT Spending In 2022 [17:04] TR Bot Gartner Group - Techrights [17:04] TR Bot IDC - Techrights [17:05] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:05] TR News Gartner "magic quadrant" BS: you have to believe in magic to believe these liars' utter lies (sponsored by those whom they recommend). Institutional corruption. Bribery. [17:08] TR News AMD is outsourcing code to Microsoft's Proprietary Prison (GitHub). Did it get infiltrated by Microsofters like Intel got infiltrated by them (Intel self-hosted its code before the sellout... succumbing to Microsoft)? http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel [17:08] TR Bot Intel - Techrights [17:08] TR News Outsourcing to GitHub is never the right thing to do and oftentimes it's a hallmark of HR problem. You hire or accept into your project people who work for Microsoft instead of the project. [17:09] TR News Speaking of Microsofters who outsource everything to Microsoft... https://this-week-in-rust.org/blog/2022/10/26/this-week-in-rust-466/ "This Week in Rust is openly developed on GitHub." Openly??? On proprietary crap? MUST CREATE MICROSOFT ACCOUNT?? [17:09] TR Bot This Week in Rust 466 This Week in Rust [17:10] *techuser (~techuser@txkdaiuveepza.irc) has joined #techrights [17:10] TR News People who try to defend outsourcing to Microsoft's GitHub suffer from the 'Lukashenko syndrome". [17:13] TR News Running sudo without updating cached credentials | Sudo https://www.sudo.ws/posts/2022/10/running-sudo-without-updating-cached-credentials/ Source: Sudo | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.sudo.ws/posts/2022/10/running-sudo-without-updating-cached-credentials/ [17:13] TR Bot Running sudo without updating cached credentials | Sudo [17:14] TR News (NEW): Call for Testing Next Generation Installer http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Call_for_Testing_Next_Generation_Installer.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Call_for_Testing_Next_Generation_Installer.gmi [17:14] TR Bot Tux Machines Call for Testing Next Generation Installer [17:15] TR News he misinformation company Mozilla is promoting fake privacy (rebranded VPN operated by a surveillance company) to GNU/Linux users (Debian in my case) by hijacking new tabs for ads sake; six days ago Ryan published "Mozilla Changes Firefox Settings/Themes Without Asking" (it seems to be what just happened to me) http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/ [17:15] TR Bot Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights [17:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [17:16] TR News "This time I was storing photos in JPEG format (instead of RAW), and I did no post-processing. I turned the photos into a movie using OpenShot on Linux." https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/time-lapse-naplas/ [17:16] TR Bot Lake Napls: giving time-lapse photography another try | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [17:20] *matteobin has quit (Quit: leaving) [17:27] TR News 15 Open Source WebDAV Servers https://medevel.com/15-os-webdav-servers/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/15-os-webdav-servers/ [17:27] TR Bot 15 Open Source WebDAV Servers [17:28] TR News SFTPGo: Open Source SFTP Server with WebDAV Support https://medevel.com/sftpgo/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/sftpgo/ [17:28] TR Bot SFTPGo: Open Source SFTP Server with WebDAV Support [17:28] TR News "Free Software can be a tool for citizens to actively participate in their local community. Petter invites you into the world of Decidim and explains what citizen participation should look like." https://fsfe.org/news/podcast/episode-17.en.html [17:28] TR Bot SFP#17: Citizen participation through Free Software with Petter Joelson - FSFE [17:29] TR News Don't fear the grepper! (4) - DEV Community https://dev.to/lizmat/dont-fear-the-grepper-4-nki Source: Elizabeth Mattijsen | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dev.to/lizmat/dont-fear-the-grepper-4-nki [17:29] TR Bot Don't fear the grepper! (4) - DEV Community [17:30] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [17:31] TR News "I am working on running EasyOS as user "zeus", where zeus has administrator rights. That means you don't have to prepend "sudo" to do stuff, such as mount a partition." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/problem-with-mount-utility-when-non-root.html [17:31] TR Bot Problem with mount utility when non-root [17:34] TR News [PATCH 0/2] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Make HWP calibration work on all hybrid platforms https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/2258064.ElGaqSPkdT@kreacher/ [17:34] TR Bot [PATCH 0/2] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Make HWP calibration work on all hybrid platforms - Rafael J. Wysocki [17:36] TR News Merge branch 'pm-cpufreq' into linux-next https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=linux-next&id=49c6629f06a33addd2d77936d3069e58dc31c5d2 [17:36] TR Bot kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git - Linux Power Management Tree [17:39] TR News "Lua isn't an object-oriented programming language, but a scripting language utilizing C functions and a C-like syntax. However, there's a cool hack you can use within Lua code to make Lua act like an object-oriented language when you need it to be." https://opensource.com/article/22/10/object-oriented-lua [17:39] TR Bot Lua into becoming an object-oriented language | Opensource.com [17:45] TR News Customize GNOME 42 with A Polished Look https://www.debugpoint.com/customize-gnome-42-look-1/ Source: DebugPoint | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.debugpoint.com/customize-gnome-42-look-1/ [17:45] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/customize-gnome-42-look-1/ ) [17:47] TR News The search for the correct amount of split-lock misery [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/911219/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/911219/ [17:47] TR Bot search for the correct amount of split-lock misery [LWN.net] [17:47] TR News (NEW): 10 Lightweight Linux Distributions for your Old Hardware in 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/10_Lightweight_Linux_Distributions_for_your_Old_Hardware_in_202.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/10_Lightweight_Linux_Distributions_for_your_Old_Hardware_in_202.gmi [17:48] TR Bot Tux Machines 10 Lightweight Linux Distributions for your Old Hardware in 2022 [17:48] TR News (NEW): Mabox Linux - Beautiful Arch Linux with Openbox [Review] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Mabox_Linux_Beautiful_Arch_Linux_with_Openbox_Review.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Mabox_Linux_Beautiful_Arch_Linux_with_Openbox_Review.gmi [17:48] TR Bot Tux Machines Mabox Linux - Beautiful Arch Linux with Openbox [Review] [17:49] TR News ## Use this Thread for Cool Gemini Bookmarks! gemini://geddit.glv.one/s/558 [17:49] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:50] TR News SpellBinding: AGOLRPH Wordo: DUCHY gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-27.gmi [17:51] TR News "Im feeling extra bad today. Im a fucking failure . My gf hates me so much. I just want to die" gemini://dk.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-10-26.gmi [17:52] *techuser (~techuser@4qc3338mpcm6n.irc) has joined #techrights [17:53] TR News "Im now browsing Gemini completely offline. It works. Imanaged to make AV-98 a totally offline gemini client which works well enough for my own needs and its a very interesting experience." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2021-12-17-offline-gemini.gmi [17:55] TR News "Linus Torvalds released 6.1-rc1 and closed the 6.1 merge window on October 16; at that point, 11,537 non-merge changesets had been pulled into the mainline repository." https://lwn.net/Articles/910608/ [17:55] TR Bot rest of the 6.1 merge window [LWN.net] [17:55] TR News Identity management for WireGuard https://lwn.net/Articles/910766/ [17:55] TR Bot management for WireGuard [LWN.net] [17:56] TR News A first look at Rust in the 6.1 kernel [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/910762/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/910762/ [17:56] TR Bot first look at Rust in the 6.1 kernel [LWN.net] [17:58] *techrights|57 (~49447b95@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [17:58] *techrights|57 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Oct 27 [18:02] TR News (NEW): The disabling of hardware codecs in community distributions http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_disabling_of_hardware_codecs_in_community_distributions.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_disabling_of_hardware_codecs_in_community_distributions.gmi [18:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [18:02] TR Bot Tux Machines The disabling of hardware codecs in community distributions [18:02] TR News (NEW): Linux: 6.1, WireGuard, and Rust http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Linux_6_1_WireGuard_and_Rust.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Linux_6_1_WireGuard_and_Rust.gmi [18:02] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux: 6.1, WireGuard, and Rust [18:07] TR News Pre-vaccine fatality rates lower than previously thought https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/27/pre-vaccine-fatality-rates/ [18:07] TR Bot Blog Archive Pre-vaccine fatality rates lower than previously thought [18:11] TR News TUXEDO OS 1 Quick overview #linux #tuxedoos - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZOLneJMIUSI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ZOLneJMIUSI [18:11] TR Bot TUXEDO OS 1 Quick overview #linux #tuxedoos - Invidious [18:11] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:11] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@3pctug2h9fiie.irc) has joined #techrights [18:12] TR News "In this video, I am going to show how to install Lubuntu 22.10." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VRV5ZzP9LcQ [18:12] TR Bot How to install Lubuntu 22.10. - Invidious [18:12] TR News MANJARO has a BIG PROBLEM - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oVlD17OjFAc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/oVlD17OjFAc [18:12] TR Bot MANJARO has a BIG PROBLEM - Invidious [18:13] reptilian_thrills ariadne: is it ever acceptable to misgender someone, SPECIFICALLY, a cis person who refuses to use someones pronouns again and again and again? [18:13] *techuser (~techuser@q63fhesnpxtc8.irc) has joined #techrights [18:14] reptilian_thrills this is not a trick question. if i twist your answer around in any way against the trans community, please find me and cut off my pinky finger yakuza style. no joke. [18:14] reptilian_thrills /me realises he just opened himself up to losing a pinky via impersonation but w/e [18:15] TR News How to Download YouTube Videos on Linux Using yt-dlp https://www.makeuseof.com/download-youtube-videos-yt-dlp-linux-terminal/ Source: Make Use Of | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/download-youtube-videos-yt-dlp-linux-terminal/ [18:15] TR Bot How to Download YouTube Videos on Linux Using yt-dlp [18:16] reptilian_thrills also im not going to say anything twattish if you ignore the question [18:16] reptilian_thrills i would understand ofc [18:17] reptilian_thrills mjg same question. how would your partner feel if a cisgender person were misgendered as a protest against their misgendering [18:18] schestowitz[TR3] what does this have to do with techirhgts? [18:18] reptilian_thrills obviously the idea of misgendering as a penalty isnt a precedent anyone (including myself) wants to snowball-- ive already seen (possible) misgendering used as a punishment in here [18:18] schestowitz[TR3] seems like no a trick question [18:18] schestowitz[TR3] but a way to trrick the channel to go into infighting [18:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [18:19] reptilian_thrills the channel isnt THAT interested in this, roy. if they were, they would have pounced on you referring to starstreak as "he" the other day [18:19] reptilian_thrills i asked if it was a typo, twice. you ignored it (or missed it) [18:19] schestowitz[TR3] probably a typo [18:19] schestowitz[TR3] if someone said that [18:19] reptilian_thrills probably? you dont know if you deliberately misgendered someone or not? [18:19] schestowitz[TR3] I didn't watch irc much last night [18:19] schestowitz[TR3] I recorded 5 videos [18:19] reptilian_thrills it was you [18:19] schestowitz[TR3] it would HAVE to be a mistake [18:19] reptilian_thrills i assume probably typo. but it was fair to ask [18:19] reptilian_thrills ok so a typo then [18:20] reptilian_thrills cool [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:20] reptilian_thrills but my first question was not about you, but a more prominent person in the free software community [18:20] reptilian_thrills mjg will figure it out [18:20] schestowitz[TR3] she wrote me an email when changing gander [18:20] schestowitz[TR3] even like 5 years after not being in thic channel [18:21] reptilian_thrills shes a wonderful person. she would have to be for me to appreciate her friendship despite all the horrible software she likes :) [18:21] TR News This it NOT an article! It's VPN SPAM! https://linuxtechlab.com/how-to-use-a-vpn-to-get-more-content/ WWW = webspam [18:21] TR Bot To Use A VPN To Get More Content - LinuxTechLab [18:21] Ariadne i do not automatically assume misgendering is malicious [18:21] reptilian_thrills tbph i respect her tech skills and intellect. shes one of those intelligent people that downplays just how smart they really are. but you didnt hear it from me. [18:22] reptilian_thrills nor do i, ariadne [18:22] schestowitz[TR3] she was years for years before [18:22] schestowitz[TR3] and only a few months after [18:22] schestowitz[TR3] and typos or freudian slips likely [18:22] schestowitz[TR3] anyway, back to tech [18:22] Ariadne i also dont think that schestowitz[TR3] is intentionally doing this [18:22] reptilian_thrills i actually assume roy isnt intentionally doing it [18:22] schestowitz[TR3] first episode of techbytes was with britnet [18:23] schestowitz[TR3] back then brandon [18:23] reptilian_thrills no need to say her old name roy [18:23] schestowitz[TR3] as fedora ambassador [18:23] reptilian_thrills she has linked me to the recording i think [18:23] reptilian_thrills ive heard her in some old podcast anyway [18:23] reptilian_thrills ariadne: i was actually thinking of stallman refusing to use they/them [18:24] reptilian_thrills and i was thinking about a PROPORTIONAL (fair) response to that [18:24] reptilian_thrills which i still think is a deserved poke [18:24] reptilian_thrills ive defended his article as mere advice, but im not sure it is [18:25] reptilian_thrills the joke about multiple personalities is particularly unfair-- both to enbies and to people with multiple personalities [18:25] reptilian_thrills but im not much into being pc for its own sake [18:25] reptilian_thrills this is about fairness, more than correctness-- i appreciate that thats quite a nuance [18:26] reptilian_thrills pc is linked to zero tolerance policy. im against zero tolerance policies because they dont allow for nuance or measured responses. they counter those. [18:26] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.2.gmi [18:26] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [18:26] reptilian_thrills but theres a difference between zero tolerance and "never do anything about anything" [18:27] schestowitz[TR3] some attacks on rms were flimsy, like calling pro-abortion ableism [18:27] reptilian_thrills like our only choices are zero tolerance or absolutism on the other end [18:27] schestowitz[TR3] so now 90% of san francisco can be called ableist [18:27] reptilian_thrills like calling pro-abortion ableism <- calling stallman an ableist is like calling natalie wynn a terf. its ridiculous. [18:28] reptilian_thrills so now 90% of san francisco can be called ableist <- most of the attacks on stallman were constructed through presumed guilt at first accusation-- abstraction and essentialism. [18:28] reptilian_thrills they were completely unfair [18:29] schestowitz[TR3] some people don't want to permit abortion after x monthns [18:29] schestowitz[TR3] are they anti-choice [18:29] schestowitz[TR3] anti-women [18:29] schestowitz[TR3] anti-abortion? [18:29] schestowitz[TR3] for what value of x? [18:29] reptilian_thrills the thing is, most people dont have late-term abortions [18:29] reptilian_thrills theyre rare [18:29] reptilian_thrills and going after late-term abortions is sort of like what they do to try to stop people from having trans rights [18:29] TR News (NEW): Videos: Manjaro, Lubuntu, TUXEDO OS, FSFE, BSD Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Videos_Manjaro_Lubuntu_TUXEDO_OS_FSFE_BSD_Now.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Videos_Manjaro_Lubuntu_TUXEDO_OS_FSFE_BSD_Now.gmi [18:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos: Manjaro, Lubuntu, TUXEDO OS, FSFE, BSD Now [18:29] reptilian_thrills they think of the most extreme things they want to say "im not against rights, im only against blah blah blah" [18:30] reptilian_thrills yes i support trans but HOW CAN YOU DO THAT TO CHILDREN [18:30] reptilian_thrills dont cut them up! [18:30] schestowitz[TR3] anyway, let's go back to tech [18:30] schestowitz[TR3] this is playing with barbwire [18:30] schestowitz[TR3] and you only end up with red hands [18:30] reptilian_thrills and they sort of miss the point that at the onset of puberty, hormones start to turn someone who is mtf into someone more biologically male (for a time) [18:31] reptilian_thrills and that means they need more surgery or other treatments later to reverse it [18:31] reptilian_thrills the more abstract point being [18:31] TR News Return to Sender : IFF's submission to the draft Telecom Bill, 2022 https://internetfreedom.in/our-response-to-the-draft-telecom-bill-2022/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/our-response-to-the-draft-telecom-bill-2022/ [18:31] TR Bot Return to Sender : IFF's submission to the draft Telecom Bill, 2022 [18:31] reptilian_thrills some people who claim to not be bigots (like jk rowling) are really just trying to counter progress at the most obvious / relatable points [18:31] reptilian_thrills but its not about concern-- shes a concern troll [18:32] reptilian_thrills rowling is just one example [18:32] reptilian_thrills i mean this is how it works [18:32] TR News Karnataka HC dismisses Aakar Patel's application https://internetfreedom.in/karnataka-hc-refuses-to-permit-an-impacted-user-to-intervene-in-twitters-petition-against-censorship-orders/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/karnataka-hc-refuses-to-permit-an-impacted-user-to-intervene-in-twitters-petition-against-censorship-orders/ [18:32] TR Bot Karnataka HC dismisses Aakar Patel's application [18:32] reptilian_thrills and terfs are as bad as anyone about this [18:32] schestowitz[TR3] jk rowling is not a tech [18:32] schestowitz[TR3] maybe tso is more on topic [18:32] reptilian_thrills i feel bad about tso :( [18:32] schestowitz[TR3] namely his innocence [18:32] schestowitz[TR3] an how inane the coc attack on him was [18:32] reptilian_thrills i dont think tso was treated fairly AT ALL [18:32] reptilian_thrills ive seen the [18:32] reptilian_thrills yes [18:33] schestowitz[TR3] and counterproiductive to women [18:33] reptilian_thrills zero tolerance policy and accusation being conflated with guilt [18:33] schestowitz[TR3] the attacks on his supports the stegma of militant feminism [18:33] reptilian_thrills a travesty of justice [18:33] schestowitz[TR3] *stigma [18:33] reptilian_thrills honestly ive come to see feminism as more nuanced and consisting of camps [18:33] reptilian_thrills years ago i saw it as waves [18:33] reptilian_thrills but its more diverse than that [18:34] reptilian_thrills each wave brought new camps [18:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@th3cphfbsa9tc.irc) has joined #techrights [18:34] reptilian_thrills old camps still exist, in smaller numbers [18:34] reptilian_thrills jo freemans article on trashing is EXTREMELY useful to anyone who wants to see what killed free software [18:34] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/27/more-problems-with-googles-insecure-apps-alert-and-seamonkey-mail/ [18:34] TR Bot More problems with Googles insecure apps alert and SeaMonkey Mail. | BaronHK's Rants [18:34] reptilian_thrills it was trashing that did stallman in [18:34] reptilian_thrills and the fsf [18:34] reptilian_thrills mjg says "consequences" and "critique" [18:34] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR3], I had to figure out what UA to fake to buy me some time before I have to mess with it again. [18:34] reptilian_thrills freeman directly addressed that and countered it in 1976 [18:34] reptilian_thrills before mjg was even born i think [18:35] reptilian_thrills i mean hes not 46 [18:35] DaemonFC I settled on "Thunderbird 102.12 on Windows NT 6.1". There is not 102.12 but my guess is that Google will ban you and log out if it thinks you haven't updated Thunderbird that month. [18:35] reptilian_thrills hes younger than that [18:35] DaemonFC They're on Thunderbird 102.4 right now. [18:36] reptilian_thrills trashing isnt "consequences" or "critique"-- its mob injustice [18:36] *psydread (eace4d91cc@freenode-fvj.6po.iua1uf.IP) has joined #techrights [18:37] reptilian_thrills it did come out of feminism [18:37] reptilian_thrills but it was a mechanism by which feminism dismantled itself [18:37] reptilian_thrills and it was a feminist qho critiqued this [18:37] reptilian_thrills today you see it happening in free software [18:38] reptilian_thrills and it happens in the trans community as well [18:38] reptilian_thrills when you see people calling a trans woman a terf-- and saying shes a transmedicalist when she clearly is not [18:38] reptilian_thrills as justifcation for not only trashing her reptuation, but harassing her friends simply for not throwing stones at her [18:39] reptilian_thrills thats the community dismantling itself [18:39] TR News Zorin OS 16.2 Has Landed - Zorin http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Zorin_OS_16_2_Arrives_as_a_Friendly_and_Accessible_Alternative_.shtml [18:39] TR Bot Tux Machines Zorin OS 16.2 Arrives as a Friendly and Accessible Alternative to Windows 11 [18:39] reptilian_thrills the way it helps corporations like ibm and microsoft is very important [18:39] reptilian_thrills however, it doesnt have to be initiated by corporations [18:39] reptilian_thrills a community will dismantle itself this way [18:39] reptilian_thrills and when they do, corporations will swoop in [18:39] reptilian_thrills "daddys home!" [18:40] reptilian_thrills this is probably what happened [18:40] reptilian_thrills of course, its also true that corporations can sow discord and instigate these things [18:40] reptilian_thrills i dont rule that out [18:40] reptilian_thrills but its important to know a community can actually do this to itself without interference from the outside [18:40] reptilian_thrills its NOT, as you might think, because they tackle or address these issues [18:41] reptilian_thrills it IS because of they WAY the issues are tackled [18:41] reptilian_thrills these issues will come up within feminism [18:41] reptilian_thrills the confluence of feminism and free software has long existed [18:41] reptilian_thrills it was only a matter of time before trans issues intersected. it was inevitable [18:41] reptilian_thrills but dismantling the movement wasnt a necessary part of it [18:42] reptilian_thrills and now that that has happened, dont expect anyone responsible to say "oh shit! WE FUCKED UP!" [18:42] reptilian_thrills they wont [18:42] reptilian_thrills self-righteousness is a prerequisite to trashing [18:42] reptilian_thrills you have to be BETTER than someone to try to ruin them. [18:42] reptilian_thrills maybe you are better. maybe they really ARE awful [18:42] reptilian_thrills with stallman and tso i dont think those apply [18:43] reptilian_thrills i think torvalds is awful, but not as awful as they accused him of. [18:43] reptilian_thrills not in the way they accuse him of. [18:43] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO: "In the US, Colonial pipeline is seeking tax reductions from the loss incurred by the 2021 ransomware campaign they were victims of. But wait to what extent is the government (and, by extension, every taxpayer) is then indirectly sponsoring cybercrime?" https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/ransomware-open-source-to-rescue.html [18:43] TR Bot Ransomware: Open Source to the Rescue [18:43] reptilian_thrills not for the things they accused him of. [18:43] reptilian_thrills i htink hes awful but i also think the accusations were unfair and unwarranted [18:43] reptilian_thrills torvalds i mean [18:44] reptilian_thrills tso: complete disaster. he should be ushering in the next phase of linux, NOT gkh [18:44] reptilian_thrills even if his filesystems are garbage. its not like he would get rid of ones that work better. [18:44] reptilian_thrills tso was all about fairness to the developer community and users, and being measured and thoughful about THOSE [18:45] reptilian_thrills gkh is just like that-- but fairness to corporate stakeholders, fuck a user eh [18:45] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/researchers-expose-over-80-shadowpad.html [18:45] TR Bot Researchers Expose Over 80 ShadowPad Malware C2 Servers [18:46] reptilian_thrills corporations spend billions on how to LOOK BETTER than the competition [18:46] DaemonFC https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2022/10/27/google-chrome-browser-windows-support-new-end-date [18:46] TR Bot Google Kills Chrome For Millions Of Windows Users [18:47] reptilian_thrills manipulating people into thinking ________ is better (using shitty but effective arguments) [18:47] DaemonFC Over 13% of Windows users are on 7, 8, and 8.1 and will get no further updates for Chrome. [18:47] reptilian_thrills what we see now is what happens when they apply that to people, not just products [18:47] DaemonFC Although they would if they used GNU/Linux, which is free and probably works fine on that computer. [18:47] reptilian_thrills theyre good at making it look like their PEOPLE are better than our people [18:47] DaemonFC More reason to get rid of Windows. [18:47] reptilian_thrills so we end up trashing our people in hopes of making them more like corporate shills [18:48] reptilian_thrills which arent actually better-- but they LOOK better [18:48] reptilian_thrills and who cares about what a person really thinks and feels-- if someone else LOOKS like they give more of a shit? [18:48] reptilian_thrills isnt image what REALLY matters? not substance or truth? [18:48] reptilian_thrills no, but when youve got billions to spend on pr, thats what happens [18:48] reptilian_thrills the good guys become the bad guys. the bad guys become the good guys [18:49] reptilian_thrills and tso gets replaced with gkh [18:49] reptilian_thrills trashing torvalds with lies (note, i intensely dislike him as a person) means he gets no say in this [18:49] *horseface has quit (connection closed) [18:49] TR News From Lua to JSON: refactoring WirePlumber's configuration system https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2022/10/27/from-lua-to-json-refactoring-wireplumber-configuration-system/ Source: Collabora | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2022/10/27/from-lua-to-json-refactoring-wireplumber-configuration-system/ [18:50] TR Bot From Lua to JSON: refactoring WirePlumber's configuration system [18:50] reptilian_thrills he would have supported tso [18:50] reptilian_thrills so they attacked both [18:50] reptilian_thrills corporations always make their shit look better using lies and propaganda [18:51] reptilian_thrills even their people, their shills [18:51] reptilian_thrills i saw what tso said [18:51] reptilian_thrills it wasnt really bad [18:51] *horseface (~horseface@5x5s3vcpnr55g.irc) has joined #techrights [18:52] reptilian_thrills you might say it wasnt even a little bad, but i couldnt possibly comment [18:52] TR News "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could result in a denial-of-service condition causing the server to be unavailable." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-300-01 [18:52] TR Bot Rockwell Automation FactoryTalk Alarm and Events Server | CISA [18:53] TR News JavaScript as a security killer https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-300-02 CVSS v3 8.8 (out of 10, very severe) [18:53] TR Bot SAUTER Controls moduWeb | CISA [18:54] reptilian_thrills i just realised mjg is like chief whip :D [18:54] reptilian_thrills /me falls over lol [18:54] TR News "A CVSS v3 base score of 8.8 has been assigned; the CVSS vector string is (AV:N/AC:L/PR:L/UI:N/S:U/C:H/I:H/A:H)." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-300-03 [18:54] TR Bot Rockwell Automation Stratix Devices Containing Cisco IOS | CISA [18:54] reptilian_thrills i still want his opinion on whether misgendering stallman is a fair and reasonable response [18:55] TR News "A specifically malformed HTTP request could cause the affected VTScada to crash. Both local area network (LAN)-only and internet facing systems are affected." Maybe stop shoving the WWW into everything? https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-300-04 [18:55] TR Bot Trihedral VTScada | CISA [18:55] schestowitz[TR3] no, mjg59_ is like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd [18:55] TR Bot Robert Byrd - Wikipedia [18:55] reptilian_thrills stallman really dislikes singular they. i think a proportional response would be stallman (they/them) [18:55] schestowitz[TR3] champion of trans people, after trashing them MOST of his life [18:56] reptilian_thrills you actually explained (very simply) why byrd in particularly [18:56] reptilian_thrills after trashing them MOST of his life <- i dont think that fairly sums up mjg [18:56] reptilian_thrills though i got the metaphor at least [18:56] TR News (NEW): Lua: WirePlumber and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Lua_WirePlumber_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Lua_WirePlumber_and_More.gmi [18:56] TR Bot Tux Machines Lua: WirePlumber and More [18:56] schestowitz[TR3] he also had the audacity to go after me [18:56] reptilian_thrills just because he was transphobic in the past doesnt mean he was a key figure in transphobia [18:56] schestowitz[TR3] I got flask for SUPPORRRTING trans people... 20 years ago [18:56] schestowitz[TR3] liek rtex ballard [18:56] reptilian_thrills but then turnabout is fair play so, thats the joke, right? [18:56] schestowitz[TR3] *rex [18:57] schestowitz[TR3] *flak [18:57] schestowitz[TR3] and you can check and see in USENET archives [18:57] reptilian_thrills what did you do to support trans people 20 years ago? [18:57] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi [18:57] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [18:58] reptilian_thrills /me wonders if there are any usenet archives that can be accessed without google and non-free js [18:59] reptilian_thrills comp.os.linux.advocacy? [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 86.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.71 [18:59] reptilian_thrills the original open cola [18:59] reptilian_thrills open cola classic ● Oct 27 [19:00] reptilian_thrills otherwise it would be called comp.os.gnu.advocacy [19:00] reptilian_thrills admittedly, coga doesnt have quite as much ring to it [19:00] schestowitz[TR3] brb I'm tying to focus on rss feeds, bad att multitasking [19:01] reptilian_thrills heh [19:01] reptilian_thrills leave that curtain alone, toto [19:01] reptilian_thrills i already know whos there [19:01] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.2.gmi [19:01] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [19:05] phanes i miss the planet aggregator [19:06] phanes ive considered reviving that codebase a few times but its such a shitshow that i keep coming to the conclusion that it needs a rewrite that i dont have the time for [19:06] reptilian_thrills most code is terrible [19:07] reptilian_thrills a lot is worth running until non-terrible code is available [19:07] reptilian_thrills depending on the situation of course. dont run terrible code on hospital equipment. or a spacecraft. [19:07] reptilian_thrills or a nuclear plant [19:07] reptilian_thrills there are other examples. i think for the most part, just run terrible code until you have something better. [19:08] reptilian_thrills because again-- thats what most code is. [19:09] reptilian_thrills deepwater horizon may have been due to terrible code [19:09] reptilian_thrills so thats another no-no [19:09] reptilian_thrills arent industrial control systems a bit notorious for being out of date and secure in patchy ways? [19:10] reptilian_thrills idk, im not an expert on that. i suspect mjg doesnt know either, but perhaps he does [19:11] mjg59_ reptilian_thrills: I wouldn't misgender someone for misgendering someone [19:11] reptilian_thrills mjg: im not surprised youre a purist about this. nor is that a critique. i actually wanted your opinion. [19:11] mjg59_ Industrial control systems: it varies a lot. Some is very well written embedded code. Some is a flash applet on Windows ME. [19:11] reptilian_thrills how hard would you try to stop someone else from such a scheme? this too is nota trick question [19:12] reptilian_thrills in other words, how much would you or your partner be offended if someone were to say... [19:12] reptilian_thrills start referring to stallman as they/them. this is the primary example im thinking of. not hypothetical. [19:12] mjg59_ I doubt my partner would be offended at all [19:12] reptilian_thrills i think it would be somewhat approaching divine justice [19:12] mjg59_ I don't think it would be terribly effective at changing stallman's mind [19:12] reptilian_thrills concerns about setting a precedent i consider valid. thankfully i wouldnt be the first. [19:13] reptilian_thrills oh i dont think anything would change his mind [19:13] reptilian_thrills however ill tell yotu he best argument i came up with anyway [19:13] reptilian_thrills you partner may appreciate this [19:13] reptilian_thrills let me quote what i said to him [19:14] reptilian_thrills for brevitys sake this will be incomplete and only contain the most relevant parts. im thinking like two lines of it here. [19:14] reptilian_thrills Requesting They/Them is a very common request. Do you actually decline if [19:14] reptilian_thrills asked? Or do you only extend this courtesy (it appears you might be making [19:14] reptilian_thrills a joke at their expense instead, which is a shame) if they actually have [19:14] reptilian_thrills multiple personalities? [19:14] MinceR i thought they/them was as general as it got [19:15] reptilian_thrills Because I do know more people with more than one [19:15] reptilian_thrills gender. I would hope that is enough to extend this courtesy. [19:15] reptilian_thrills i thought they/them was as general as it got <- yeah but i think he prefers strong typing :) [19:15] MinceR RMS? [19:15] reptilian_thrills yeah [19:15] reptilian_thrills It matters that much to people. Surely if they don't identify with the [19:15] reptilian_thrills pronouns you suggest, we can help them? If you will for multiple [19:15] reptilian_thrills personalities-- why not for multiple genders? [19:15] reptilian_thrills i really think this is good: If you will for multiple personalities-- why not for multiple genders? [19:16] MinceR i doubt it, and i'd hope he's aware of situations with lack of information [19:16] MinceR they/them can apply to situations where i'm speaking about someone whose gender i do not know [19:16] reptilian_thrills i'd hope he's aware of situations with lack of information <- i dont follow [19:16] MinceR so i don't see how this could be insulting [19:16] reptilian_thrills ah yes [19:16] reptilian_thrills well the point isnt to insult him [19:16] reptilian_thrills they/them isnt an insult [19:16] MinceR also, afaik he's into lisp, which generally doesn't tend to enforce types of variables [19:16] reptilian_thrills thats a fair point. [19:17] reptilian_thrills i wasnt thinking if lisp, i should have [19:17] reptilian_thrills also lisp doesnt care about parameter count. its as vague as "they" in his complaint. [19:17] TR News A Ubuntu "tech" thing that is NOT "Debian with ads and Microsoft" https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-10-27/part-one-the-rising-of-ubuntu-lab/ [19:17] TR Bot Part One: The Rising of Ubuntu.Lab - Resilience [19:18] reptilian_thrills or at least, it can be. im more familiar with pythons ability to do arbitrary parameter counts. i know lisp is CAPABLE of this at least [19:18] reptilian_thrills and im not trying to say python does it better. seems unlikely. [19:18] phanes lol @ multiple personalities. I remember when Frank Gingras was trying to convince people in the early 2000s that I had multiple personality disorder. That shit still has me rolling. [19:18] reptilian_thrills its probably less funny if you actually have mpd [19:19] TR News "As mentioned previously, Netgate has moved the underlying OS base from CentOS to Ubuntu - driven by Red Hat's shift from CentOS Linux to CentOS Stream" https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/598008593/tnsr-vrouter-software-release-22-10-is-here ICBM cannot help shooting its own foot [19:19] reptilian_thrills but then, some people who have more than one personality also have a sense of humour [19:19] TR Bot TNSR vRouter Software Release 22.10 is Here - EIN Presswire [19:19] phanes idk, might depend on which personality hears it? [19:19] reptilian_thrills that too! [19:19] reptilian_thrills i mean, one of the ways you GET a sense of humour is by surviving bullying [19:19] reptilian_thrills which doesnt make the bullying great [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:20] reptilian_thrills youre lucky if you survive it and dont become a narcissistic dickfuck with a blog [19:20] phanes gotta get out of the habit, generally as a society, of pampering peoples' victim status and subverting their development of emotional resilience [19:20] TR News Misleading. The Microsofters suggest running fake 'Linux' which is in fact Windows spyware crippled by design to make GNU/Linux looks bad https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/how-to-run-any-linux-distro-alongside-windows-11 [19:20] TR Bot How to run any Linux distro alongside Windows 11 | Windows Central [19:20] reptilian_thrills of pampering peoples' victim status <- i mean, its a spectrum innit? [19:20] reptilian_thrills on the one hand you have catering too much [19:20] reptilian_thrills im sure that exists [19:21] reptilian_thrills i can find you a book on weaponising victimhood that totally supports what youre saying [19:21] TR News Microsoft will kill off WSL some time in the next year or few years. It was a stunning FAILURE (very few adopters). http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WSL [19:21] TR Bot WSL - Techrights [19:21] reptilian_thrills on the other hand [19:21] reptilian_thrills if you put bullies in charge of everything, you dont get the society you claim to support building either. [19:21] reptilian_thrills so i think this is one of those "middle of the road is the only way" things. [19:21] reptilian_thrills it can be a big middle, but the extremes are treacherous [19:21] phanes if you're walking on eggshells to prevent tomatoes being thrown at you over what pronouns you use in a conversation, or whether something offended some other imaginary class of people, then you're overcatering tbh. People need to put salt on it and move on like literally everyone else is expected to. [19:21] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [19:22] reptilian_thrills if you're walking on eggshells <- any time peopel are walking on eggshells its a bad sign. [19:22] reptilian_thrills hey starstreak [19:22] TR News ICBM is killing Red Hat https://www.telecomtv.com/content/digital-platforms-services/rakuten-dumps-red-hat-turns-to-true-open-source-linux-os-45803/ more major clients... GONE [19:22] TR Bot dumps Red Hat, turns to true open-source Linux OS, Digital Platforms & Services | TelecomTV [19:22] starstreak hey reptilian_thrills [19:22] reptilian_thrills i think its fair to refer to stallman as they/them. mjg says he wouldnt do that, but he doesnt think his partner would be offended [19:22] reptilian_thrills i welcome your opinion in public or private [19:22] reptilian_thrills in fact id really like it [19:22] reptilian_thrills i think its fair to refer to stallman as they/the <- since he (most likely) refuses to on grounds of not liking singular they [19:23] reptilian_thrills im not 100% sure about this but i have more than a hunch :/ [19:23] *includeals has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [19:23] phanes reptilian_thrills, eh, take everything that guy says with an equal grain of salt. It's only convenient for him to not be offended. When it's convenient he'll be offended. [19:24] reptilian_thrills in general i think misgendering as a punishment is wrong. but to poke at an someone who refuses to gender an entire group properly [19:24] TR News Microsofters are boosting Lennart Poettering (Microsoft) inside Linux. Take a HINT! https://devops.com/meta-income-down-apple-cut-linux-secure-boot-richixbw/ [19:24] TR Bot Income Down by Half | Will Apple Make it Worse? | Linux Secure Boot Fix - DevOps.com [19:24] reptilian_thrills its a sort of divine justice. let me know if you disagree [19:24] reptilian_thrills your opinion is valuable to me, and you wont be quoted either [19:25] phanes i miss when foss wasn't being misused as a soap box for social justice to distract attention from everyone's shitty code and poor technical skills [19:25] reptilian_thrills i miss when foss wasn't being misused as a soap box for social justice <- ah yes "the good old days" [19:25] phanes old guard was full of gatekeepers, so it makes sense that we'd raise a generation of inept contributors, but we now have to recover from that [19:26] reptilian_thrills fwiw i blame politics left of marxist more than the trans community [19:26] reptilian_thrills youll notice the difference when you look at the minority of the trans community that is right of far-left [19:26] reptilian_thrills including leah and ariadne [19:26] phanes "the trans community" is a construct, a conversational device meant to create division and scapegoating [19:27] reptilian_thrills well thats a ridiculous mischaracterisation [19:27] phanes someone can be LBGT without having to join some collective and put on a star trek uniform [19:27] reptilian_thrills i thought you were all about truth [19:27] reptilian_thrills someone can be LBGT without having to join some collective and put on a star trek unifor <- that i agree with fully [19:28] phanes when people are talking about "the trans community" they're almost exclusively using it in a way that is devisive and toxic even in otherwise positive contexts. [19:28] phanes it is a conversational device [19:28] reptilian_thrills almost exclusively <- fair enough. i think it can be used that wa [19:28] reptilian_thrills i also think it can be used more reasonably [19:28] reptilian_thrills back in a few [19:28] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [19:29] phanes you want an inclusive community that's friendly to LBGT? forget over-representation, just build an inclusive culture. that starts with tearing up logical identity dividers. [19:30] phanes wanna be gay? be gay, it's no one's business. Wanna become a man? Become a man, that's no one's business. wanna be a simp cis white guy? that's just as valid. time to work on code or design instead of dividing people with group identity rhetoric. [19:31] phanes any less is a bigotry [19:32] TR News (NEW): Hans de Goede and Drew DeVault Kernel Hacking http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Hans_de_Goede_and_Drew_DeVault_Kernel_Hacking.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Hans_de_Goede_and_Drew_DeVault_Kernel_Hacking.gmi [19:32] TR Bot Tux Machines Hans de Goede and Drew DeVault Kernel Hacking [19:40] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@vvbde374bfqga.irc) has joined #techrights [19:41] reptilian_thrills any time that a group has sought to be treated as equals they have stressed a collective identity [19:41] reptilian_thrills the civil rights movement, womens sufferage-- these were true progressive movements [19:41] reptilian_thrills of course it was in one wave of feminism that camps became militant and overly self-policing [19:42] schestowitz[TR3] ok, then... back to tech [19:42] schestowitz[TR3] it's techrights [19:42] schestowitz[TR3] tech+rights [19:42] schestowitz[TR3] rights as pertaining to TECH ;-) [19:42] schestowitz[TR3] it's in the name ;-) [19:42] reptilian_thrills that doesnt mean theres no such thing as feminism but it does mean a movement can work against itself [19:42] reptilian_thrills similarly, there is a trans community, but pretending its homogenous or automatically does / should agree with you on anything is divisive [19:42] schestowitz[TR3] important topic [19:43] schestowitz[TR3] what LP is planning to do [19:43] schestowitz[TR3] I wonder how mjg59_ feels about it [19:43] schestowitz[TR3] he once again mocked secure boot [19:43] schestowitz[TR3] calling is "security theatre" [19:43] reptilian_thrills but its just as legitimate (a community) as any similar/important historical example [19:43] schestowitz[TR3] as distros adopt it [19:43] mjg59_ It's a perfectly reasonable design that does nothing to negatively impact user freedom [19:43] schestowitz[TR3] and wants to spread the IBM+Microsoft agenda: TPM/2 [19:43] reptilian_thrills there was a free software community, but it too dismantled itself [19:43] MinceR lol [19:43] MinceR there's the talking point [19:43] schestowitz[TR3] > nothing to negatively impact user freedom [19:43] schestowitz[TR3] false [19:43] schestowitz[TR3] it can lock users out [19:44] reptilian_thrills once again i blame post structuralism and left-of-marxist political mistakes [19:44] schestowitz[TR3] of their computerts [19:44] schestowitz[TR3] for this to work, they will need to enable this perpetually [19:44] MinceR i guess MICROS~1 pays mjg59_ enough for him to disregard the fact that it negatively impacted _his_ user freedom [19:44] schestowitz[TR3] and then, good luck getting back into your own machine [19:44] reptilian_thrills lenin complained about this 100 years ago, before jo freeman complained about it in the feminist community in 1976 [19:44] MinceR who wants a computer they can own when the redmond mafia pays so much? [19:44] schestowitz[TR3] MinceR: yes, he lost access to his data [19:44] schestowitz[TR3] but sheesh!! [19:44] phanes lol @ matt saying secure boot isn't impacting user freedom while MSFT is working hard with vendors to make installation of unapproved operating systems with it almost impossible for end users [19:44] schestowitz[TR3] it's in his muskweets [19:44] reptilian_thrills suckyour boot [19:45] reptilian_thrills please bill, let me suckyour boot! [19:45] phanes i sometimes wonder if you actually believe the dumb shit you say or if you're being paid to advocate a framework that's hostile to innovation [19:45] mjg59_ Lennart's proposal for a more integrated boot environment don't alter the secure boot situation [19:45] schestowitz[TR3] he himself saids lenovo now locks out linus [19:45] schestowitz[TR3] maybe he forgot [19:45] schestowitz[TR3] *linus [19:45] schestowitz[TR3] >linuxxx [19:45] reptilian_thrills Lennart's proposal <- should be called the subjugation proclamation [19:46] MinceR yay, poettering will revolutionize MICROS~1's vendor lockin [19:46] MinceR apparently it is not complex and error-prone enough for the NSA's taste [19:46] MinceR poettering to the rescue! [19:46] mjg59_ It removes a bunch of the existing complexity [19:46] MinceR sure it does [19:46] mjg59_ It literally does? [19:46] reptilian_thrills yeah, getting throw into a river simplifies your life a lot [19:46] MinceR yeah, you insisting is extremely convincing [19:46] TR News More fake 'security' by outsourcing "trust" to a b unch of incognito losers on the Pentagon-funded cartel (keychain) https://portswigger.net/burp/documentation/desktop/external-browser-config/certificate/ca-cert-chrome-linux [19:46] TR Bot Installing Burp's CA certificate in Chrome - Linux - PortSwigger [19:46] MinceR after seeing your previous bullshit [19:46] phanes yeah UEFI is SELinux all over again. I say this as I patch a system for a vulnerability that allows root shell access, easily, but only when Selinux is enabled. [19:47] Ariadne poettering's proposal streamlines some things [19:47] reptilian_thrills /me chucks laptop off a cliff [19:47] Ariadne but UEFI is terrible [19:47] reptilian_thrills OH THIS IS SO MUCH SIMPLER! [19:47] MinceR that's what i'll get to do to my next laptop, i guess [19:47] reptilian_thrills UEFI is terrible <- true [19:47] mjg59_ UEFI *is* terrible [19:47] MinceR removing the SSD so i could boot from USB and remove the offending efivar wasn't good enough [19:47] mjg59_ BIOS was differently terrible [19:47] mjg59_ All firmware sucks [19:47] MinceR BIOS actually worked [19:47] MinceR unlike UEFI [19:48] reptilian_thrills All firmware sucks <- i would say AFAB but that acronym is taken [19:48] reptilian_thrills /me says all corps are bastards [19:48] MinceR "but it didn't let me do stuff in setup with my mouse!" who gives a fuck. [19:48] Ariadne IEEE1275 (openfirmware) is reasonable tbh [19:48] schestowitz[TR3] All firmware sucks [19:48] schestowitz[TR3] mirosoft talking point [19:48] schestowitz[TR3] ALL X sucks [19:48] schestowitz[TR3] when Microsoft sucks at X [19:48] mjg59_ BIOS "worked" because people spent decades figuring out which bits of it were reliably implemented across systems [19:48] schestowitz[TR3] "all computers are niot secure" [19:48] schestowitz[TR3] "all PCs are slow" [19:48] phanes the bios wasn't a design shift that was funded purely to force users to adopt non-foss operating systems by forcing research tree selection in subsequent computing generations [19:48] Ariadne UEFI is basically "we looked at IEEE1275 and then learned all the wrong lessons" imo [19:49] schestowitz[TR3] "every company is homophobic like Microsoft [19:49] MinceR since UEFI was invented, the people in charge of things stopped caring [19:49] schestowitz[TR3] "everyone bribes" [19:49] MinceR now we get self-bricking devices. yay. [19:49] reptilian_thrills UEFI is basically "we looked at IEEE1275 and then learned all the wrong lessons" imo <- [19:49] schestowitz[TR3] if that fails, "you are an idiot!" [19:49] reptilian_thrills now we get self-bricking devices. yay. <- complete coincidence [19:49] mjg59_ IEEE1275 was basically ignored because nobody wanted to learn forth to write drivers [19:49] reptilian_thrills never attribute to malice what can be explained by pure evil [19:49] MinceR lol [19:49] reptilian_thrills :> [19:50] phanes to be clear i dont think the evil behind UEFI was in the designers or developers but in the people paying those useful idiots and forcing vendor changes to adopt it for strategic benefit [19:50] schestowitz[TR3] e.e.e.vil [19:50] phanes which was also clearly the end result [19:50] reptilian_thrills but in the people paying those useful idiots <- ill buy that [19:50] schestowitz[TR3] systemdctl start evil [19:50] schestowitz[TR3] *systemctl [19:50] reptilian_thrills of course if there was a good alternative id buy THAT instead [19:50] reptilian_thrills /me eyes os.boot [19:51] starstreak fedora can be installed on secure boot systems [19:51] starstreak muh freedom! [19:51] phanes those arguments fall apart as soon as you try to roll your own and distribute that [19:51] TR News Phoronix: ooooh! cool shiny new toys: "Microsoft Releases Its Linux Distribution Update For October 2022". How many users does this crap have other than Microsoft? Doesn't natter. Phoronix is paid by Microsoft hardware attaches. [19:52] MinceR dehomag paid MICROS~1 so that fedora could be installed on Restricted Boot systems [19:52] MinceR yay, the freedom to pay. [19:52] MinceR though i guess redhat paid before dehomag bought them [19:52] MinceR same difference. [19:52] schestowitz[TR3] fedora cannot boot sometimes [19:52] schestowitz[TR3] because of Microsoft [19:52] MinceR that's typical of "modern" systems [19:52] phanes ive not had issues with booting fedora on modern systems [19:52] MinceR it is expected, even desirable [19:52] reptilian_thrills yay, the freedom to pay. <- youre free to do as we tell you-- bill hicks [19:52] schestowitz[TR3] but starstreak wanted to work for Microsoft, so... [19:53] schestowitz[TR3] no harm done, I guess [19:53] phanes ew [19:53] starstreak they have an affirmative action program for autistic people like myself [19:53] phanes i turned down linkedin a few times [19:53] schestowitz[TR3] they don't [19:53] schestowitz[TR3] it's a lie [19:53] phanes facebook as well [19:53] schestowitz[TR3] Microsoft kills the crippled and such [19:53] MinceR yay, affirmative action [19:53] schestowitz[TR3] but pretends to care foe special needs [19:53] reptilian_thrills they have an affirmative action program <- i consider it exploitative, especially in the way they promote it [19:54] schestowitz[TR3] don't believe what Microsoft ays [19:54] phanes was about halfway through the technical interview before i realized this was a fuzz trap [19:54] schestowitz[TR3] they hire liars [19:54] starstreak https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/diversity/inside-microsoft/cross-disability/neurodiversityhiring [19:54] TR Bot Hiring | Global Diversity and Inclusion at Microsoft [19:54] reptilian_thrills microsoft has attacked the neurodiverse more than helping them [19:54] reptilian_thrills but as long as they do both people assume good faith [19:54] MinceR i guess neurodiversity at MICROS~1 means that they occasionally hire a competent person [19:54] starstreak i didnt really WANT to work for them, my employment coach made me [19:54] reptilian_thrills theyre nazis-- they support eugenis [19:54] MinceR (and then prevent them from achieving anything anyway) [19:54] reptilian_thrills my employment coach made me <- fair [19:54] reptilian_thrills (and then prevent them from achieving anything anyway) [19:55] reptilian_thrills ^ like when obama made hillary chief of whatever [19:55] reptilian_thrills if they cant beat you, they hire you. [19:55] reptilian_thrills then they can control you [19:55] MinceR drobbins made the mistake of working for them [19:55] MinceR i doubt he achieved anything there [19:55] mjg59_ "If you install the update that prevents known vulnerable bootloaders from booting, known vulnerable bootloaders will no longer boot" - why is this a surprising outcome? [19:55] reptilian_thrills microsoft purchases things to kill them off [19:55] phanes the way you fix the neurodiversity problem in tech is to create a culture that accomodates the neurodiverse without first needing to know that the behaviours they're dealing with are not neurotypical. that's not a priority. the image of being neurodiverse is currently more important than actually being friendly to the neurodiverse. [19:56] reptilian_thrills people who are considering employment should ask themselves if they are in a similar situation. [19:56] reptilian_thrills you have to sign agreements to nda and non-compete [19:56] reptilian_thrills unless they had to do away with those [19:56] reptilian_thrills but they can simulate them even if they cant have them on paper [19:56] reptilian_thrills they are anti-competitive and monopolistic [19:56] phanes reptilian_thrills, eh, slow down a bit. most fortune list companies make you sign NDAs and/or non-competes if you have those kinds of skills. [19:56] phanes it is just part of the trade [19:56] reptilian_thrills you work for them-- you do what yorue told-- or you get treated like an enemy [19:56] schestowitz[TR3] http://techrights.org/2016/11/06/yuval-levental-on-hiring-program/ [19:57] TR Bot Microsoft Grossly Exaggerates the Value of its Hiring Program for People with Autism, by Yuval Levental | Techrights [19:57] reptilian_thrills reptilian_thrills, eh, slow down a bit. most fortune list companies make you sign NDAs and/or non-competes if you have those kinds of skills. <- im saying its different when microsoft does it [19:57] reptilian_thrills im not saying its the same when anyone else does it. [19:57] phanes no it's really not [19:57] phanes it's different when ROBERT HALF does it [19:57] reptilian_thrills of course it is. if you want to be naive about that its nothing to do with me [19:57] reptilian_thrills it's different when ROBERT HALF does i <- lol ok [19:57] phanes the one MSFT uses is way kinder to intellectual property developed in your free time than the one Robert Half uses [19:58] reptilian_thrills the one MSFT uses is way kinder to intellectual property developed in your free time than the one Robert Half uses <- this sounds like an exception that proves a rule [19:58] reptilian_thrills or rather a minor exception that proves nothing at all [19:58] schestowitz[TR3] my employment coach made me <- fair [19:58] schestowitz[TR3] coach is not boss [19:58] reptilian_thrills like "america isnt becoming draconian, look at china!" [19:58] reptilian_thrills we can totally agree that china is worse [19:58] phanes about once a year i have a conversation with RH's legal team because they want to bring me into some project they fucked up and their legal team won't budge on their non-compete agreement wording [19:59] reptilian_thrills but this is whataboutism ● Oct 27 [20:00] reptilian_thrills what about robert half! (ive never even heard of him) [20:01] schestowitz[TR3] http://techrights.org/2010/02/17/choice-versus-condition/ [20:01] TR Bot Nobody is Born a Microsoft Employee | Techrights [20:01] phanes how can you be this far along in the game and not know who the major players are [20:01] reptilian_thrills similar question: why should i care who robert half is [20:02] reptilian_thrills maybe the big leagues arent interesting to me because of various scandals that happen less (or COULD happen less) is minor leagues [20:02] reptilian_thrills of course thats not entirely true. theyre still interesting. [20:02] reptilian_thrills even so, the argument that microsoft isnt bad because robert half is worse is pretty hilarious [20:02] phanes i mean [20:03] phanes there's an ocean of sandgrain companies that form an aggregate of the industry but the core nerves need to be identified if you want to compete with the big hitters [20:03] reptilian_thrills im more interested in the plays than the players [20:04] TR News "Note: Access Now co-signed this letter along with Electronic Frontier Foundation, Software Freedom Law Center, India, and other organisations and expert individuals." https://www.accessnow.org/india-telecommunications-bill-encryption/ [20:04] TR Bot International coalition calls for withdrawal of Draft Indian Telco Bill: provisions threaten end-to-end encryption - Access Now [20:04] reptilian_thrills sure the players are relevant, but what has robert half done that should interest ME [20:04] phanes ok, but players gonna play [20:04] phanes who plays is important because players tend to make plays with a theme [20:04] phanes and understanding that theme requires knowledge of the players [20:04] reptilian_thrills i dont disagree [20:04] TR News "Access Now signed this letter and joins the call of other organisations for the Indian government to withdraw the Draft Telecommunication Bill, 2022 because its authorizes government to order internet shutdowns in violation of human rights." https://www.accessnow.org/india-telecommunications-bill-shutdowns/ [20:04] TR Bot India's Draft Telecommunication Bill empowers gov't to impose internet shutdowns - Access Now [20:04] reptilian_thrills well, i dont think you need to know every player to follow the game [20:05] phanes not every player no [20:05] reptilian_thrills but i will give you that the more you know about the players-- it helps at least [20:05] reptilian_thrills but either way, i learn new things all the tim [20:05] reptilian_thrills time [20:05] phanes some mom and pop shop that does consultant staffing isn't going to be required knowledge no [20:05] reptilian_thrills what i dont know is why robert half is important [20:05] TR News Rust is not even consistent. Improvised crap. Do we want Linus build with that? https://blog.m-ou.se/rust-standard/ [20:05] TR Bot Do we need a "Rust Standard"? - Mara's Blog [20:05] phanes but not knowing who battelle is what role they play in national security is a knowledge shortcoming if you're going to be 1337 or even pretend to be [20:06] phanes *or what role [20:06] reptilian_thrills i dont claim to be 1337, that might be your thing [20:06] MinceR who's battelle and why does robert half matter? [20:06] reptilian_thrills if i did claim to be 1337 that would be like throwing a grenade at my foot [20:06] reptilian_thrills anyone who actually is would just laugh [20:06] TR News Coming soon: Microsoft-bribed publishers blaming "Linux" every time Rust "moves fast and breaks thing" [20:06] phanes where tf am i, like how do you y'all not know who these companies are [20:07] MinceR sounds like we're not getting any answers tonight [20:07] reptilian_thrills /me has known some important people [20:07] reptilian_thrills but they were from another time [20:07] phanes with the topics you complain about i'd assume these would be common names [20:07] reptilian_thrills im sure phanes can name drop. ive sat 2 feet from buzz aldrin having breakfast [20:07] TR News Khronos Blog - The Khronos Group Inc https://www.khronos.org/blog/the-recently-upstreamed-spir-v-backend-to-be-discussed-at-the-2022-llvm-developers-meeting Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.khronos.org/blog/the-recently-upstreamed-spir-v-backend-to-be-discussed-at-the-2022-llvm-developers-meeting [20:07] TR Bot Khronos Blog - The Khronos Group Inc [20:08] reptilian_thrills but i still dont know who fucking robert half is [20:08] phanes reptilian_thrills, i actually avoid namedropping alot, like i'll omit a company if they're a current client when this topic comes up [20:08] MinceR "Robert Half, formally referred to as Robert Half International Inc., is a global human resource consulting firm based in Menlo Park and San Ramon, California, founded in 1948." [20:08] reptilian_thrills i guess what my point is, is [20:08] TR News A Vulkanised Webinar: Exploring the Latest Updates to the Vulkan API and Ecosystem https://www.khronos.org/events/cross-vendor-mesh-shading-with-vulkan [20:08] reptilian_thrills you cant know everyone. not even everyone that matters. well, maybe you can [20:08] TR Bot A Vulkanised Webinar: Exploring the Latest Updates to the Vulkan API and Ecosystem - The Khronos Group Inc [20:08] *MinceR imagines the Namedropping Alot [20:08] phanes namedropping is never useful, people who could should not as knowing people is most useful with a phone call or an email [20:08] reptilian_thrills maybe i paid too much attention to lennart and not enough to other players [20:09] reptilian_thrills namedropping is never usefu <- maybe it can make a point in the middle of a ridiculous conversation [20:09] reptilian_thrills but i wouldnt be TOO sure [20:10] TR News Rust apologists: stop ranting about Rust. It's still in an experimental state of flux, unlike Linux. Also: how COOL would it be if we stuffed our playground INTO Linux! [20:10] reptilian_thrills ACTION imagines the Namedropping Alot <- im picturing station from bill & teds [20:11] phanes eh, i dont get it. when i think of namedropping i think of matt saying "I used to work for Red Hat and then I took an arrow to the knee", like that means something unique in these circles [20:11] TR News Also Rust: people aren't leaving Rust. We don't even like them. Screw them! Hey, we have a CoC! We don't need you anyway!! [20:11] reptilian_thrills /me is surprised phanes knows who robert half is when he has so much time for mjg [20:11] phanes That CoC isn't going to write code [20:11] reptilian_thrills i still think your project is interesting but i wish it moved forward [20:11] phanes reptilian_thrills, all of my projects are like that. People think I only focus on the one project. [20:11] TR News Leadership of Rust leaves as often as Linux releases an RC [20:11] reptilian_thrills no, i can relate. really. [20:12] reptilian_thrills any person who has done more than one thing ever should be able to [20:12] MinceR does rust need code written, though? [20:12] phanes what I do is have about 30 different projects at the same time, about half of which are public or visible outside of my office, and cycle the kryptonian laser vision through them one at a time, stopping the clock until I hit a milestone, and then move on. I play a very long game. [20:13] reptilian_thrills timesharing [20:13] reptilian_thrills each project gets a slice [20:13] reptilian_thrills but its not a fast cycle [20:13] phanes i am currently re-evaluating my scheduling with it because i feel this mode is very slow for end to end delivery [20:13] reptilian_thrills because when humans divide their attention too thinly it gets sloppy [20:13] phanes it takes like 10 years to get a product out this way [20:13] TR News Red Hat's biggest is the client is DoD, including NSA. Do you trust Red Hat with ciphers?? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-hash-based-signatures [20:13] TR Bot Post-quantum cryptography: Hash-based signatures [20:14] *phanes trusts RH with ciphers [20:14] reptilian_thrills yeah, devuan should look at debian because the latter (or former if you like) took like a year to get out [20:14] reptilian_thrills then again, they had more people. then again... [20:14] phanes just because it sells to federal doesn't mean it's insecure [20:15] MinceR it's insecure because it's willing to make its own code insecure in service of the NSA [20:15] phanes huh? evidence? [20:15] phanes i call bs on that [20:16] MinceR http://techrights.org/2015/07/08/red-hat-nsa/ [20:16] TR Bot Red Hat and NSA: This is Not News | Techrights [20:16] phanes noting in mind that fips mode and DISA STIG hardening with openscap are broken currently in Rocky, CentOS, and work perfectly in RH [20:17] reptilian_thrills honestly i think gov approval IMPLIES compliance with nsa-imposed weakness [20:17] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_EC_DRBG [20:17] TR Bot Dual_EC_DRBG - Wikipedia [20:17] reptilian_thrills OBVIOUSLY [20:17] reptilian_thrills "we want a contract" [20:17] reptilian_thrills "ok we have some requirments" [20:17] reptilian_thrills "we cant do that" [20:17] reptilian_thrills "nice talking with you" [20:17] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux [20:17] TR Bot Security-Enhanced Linux - Wikipedia [20:17] TR News Red Hat's site seems to be blocking wget now. Seems like further escalation. After putting proprietary JavaScript in a lot of the sites, in effect blocking Free software users from merely entering some Red Hat sites. [20:18] reptilian_thrills but youre right, theres no way the government can ask such things of a contractor [20:18] TR News With ICBM, Red Hat goes to the death camp [20:18] MinceR just use wget -U FuckYou [20:18] reptilian_thrills especially a 2bn company (or whatever you like) at rh scale [20:18] reptilian_thrills but now theyre owned by ibm [20:18] reptilian_thrills i can vouch for ibm on this [20:18] phanes this is a very silly and stupid thing to suggest based on the evidence. your assertion is that RH may be insecure with NSA backdoors because the NSA uses it in their datacenters (and now clouds) to secure their operations and infrastructure. [20:18] reptilian_thrills theres no way ibm would ever compromise their integrity to appease a nationstate. [20:18] reptilian_thrills not again, anyway. [20:18] MinceR the NSA is known to shit in their own well, so to speak [20:19] TR News Red Hat projects are just "PRODUCTS" and "SOLUTIONS" now. Welcome back, Novell(R)! [20:19] reptilian_thrills your assertion is that RH may be insecure with NSA backdoors because the NSA uses it in their datacenters (and now clouds) to secure their operations and infrastructure. <- no [20:19] MinceR and afaict they've collaborated with redhat to push selinux into the official kernel [20:19] reptilian_thrills its being asserted that people who want big contracts will concessions to big clients [20:19] reptilian_thrills which of course-- never happens [20:19] reptilian_thrills and when theyve already been caught doing it [20:19] TR News Carbon Dating HTML gemini://marginalia.nu/log/66-carbon-dating.gmi [20:19] phanes selinux was absolutely an NSA product that merged into the kernel tree and I think it was a huge mistake that was counterproductive to its intent [20:19] reptilian_thrills then accusing them of this is only doubly absurd :) [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:20] TR News Red hat: will the last person to leave turn the gas off? [20:20] TR News (NEW): Ubuntu: vRouter, GAFAM, and Elektrobit http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Ubuntu_vRouter_GAFAM_and_Elektrobit.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Ubuntu_vRouter_GAFAM_and_Elektrobit.gmi [20:20] TR Bot Tux Machines Ubuntu: vRouter, GAFAM, and Elektrobit [20:20] TR News (NEW): Red Hat: Security, TPM, Loss of Clients, and Vendor Lock-in http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Red_Hat_Security_TPM_Loss_of_Clients_and_Vendor_Lock_in.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Red_Hat_Security_TPM_Loss_of_Clients_and_Vendor_Lock_in.gmi [20:20] TR Bot Tux Machines Red Hat: Security, TPM, Loss of Clients, and Vendor Lock-in [20:20] MinceR "In the context of criticism of the Intel ME and AMD Secure Technology it has been pointed out that the National Security Agency (NSA) budget request for 2013 contained a Sigint Enabling Project with the goal to "Insert vulnerabilities into commercial encryption systems, IT systems, " and it has been conjectured that Intel ME and AMD Secure Technology might be part of that program." -- [20:20] phanes where RH will fail is when they try to containerize everything because they've seriously fucked up RH satellite infrastructure [20:20] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine [20:20] TR Bot Intel Management Engine - Wikipedia [20:21] phanes and by fail i mean, RH will bankrupt themselves trying to make their pile of shits work right after they containerize all their offerings and force non-monolithic architecture on clients who are more interested in fuzztech than stability [20:21] TR News "Since its release in late 2020, PHP 8 has been a game changer. In this tutorial, I will walk through all the latest features with real-world examples of when I might choose to use them." https://laravel-news.com/modern-php-features-explained [20:21] TR Bot Modern PHP features explained - PHP 8.0 and 8.1 | Laravel News [20:22] reptilian_thrills and by fail i mean, RH will bankrupt themselves trying to make their pile of shits work right <- FINGERS CROSSED [20:22] reptilian_thrills but then, if ibm kills rh theyll be like "aww, so sad" [20:22] reptilian_thrills and roy will be like HAHA, IBM IS DEAD NOW! [20:22] TR News FCC Votes To Strengthen Network Resiliency in Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/fcc-votes-to-strengthen-network-resiliency-in-puerto-rico-u-s-virgin-islands/ Source: Public Knowledge | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/fcc-votes-to-strengthen-network-resiliency-in-puerto-rico-u-s-virgin-islands/ [20:22] TR Bot FCC Votes To Strengthen Network Resiliency in Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands - Public Knowledge [20:22] MinceR it would be nice if rh bankrupted itself and ibm [20:23] phanes "we modernized. we had to fire all of our OS experts because they warned us not to use this, but we containerized everything and now have 3x as many people in our workforce to get the same level of stability we had with monolithic architecture and it's breaking our business models" which will eventually have an impact on RH revenue [20:23] reptilian_thrills /me hopes phanes doesnt work for rh [20:23] phanes as well as, unfortunately, national security and critical infrastructure [20:23] schestowitz[TR3] reptilian_thrills: https://datastorageasean.com/daily-news/big-blues-big-problem-ibms-unstoppable-decline [20:23] reptilian_thrills i mean w/e, but still [20:23] TR Bot Data and Storage News from around South East Asia [20:23] schestowitz[TR3] https://datastorageasean.com/sites/default/files/images/1ibm.png [20:23] phanes why is that reptilian_thrills (i mean i wouldn't work for them, but just curious) [20:24] schestowitz[TR3] https://www.forbesindia.com/blog/technology/h1b-visa-norms-whats-good-for-ibm-need-not-be-good-for-america/ [20:24] TR Bot H1B Visa Norms: What's Good For IBM Need Not Be Good For America... - Forbes India Blogs [20:24] schestowitz[TR3] https://www.forbesindia.com/fbimages/900x600/proportional/png/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/chart_1-20.png [20:24] reptilian_thrills i dunno, can you refute any claims made by edwin black? i mean i dont think "orchestrated the holocaust" is "cancel culture" but maybe you have a counter to this [20:24] reptilian_thrills /me still finds cancel culture dishonest and excessive, for starters [20:25] reptilian_thrills i mean i dont know how much of ibms empire is built on the third reich. they were certainly doing well already before that happened [20:25] TR News FCC Moves To Leverage 12 GHz Band To Further Close Digital Divide - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/fcc-moves-to-leverage-12-ghz-band-to-further-close-digital-divide/ Source: Public Knowledge | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/fcc-moves-to-leverage-12-ghz-band-to-further-close-digital-divide/ [20:25] TR Bot FCC Moves To Leverage 12 GHz Band To Further Close Digital Divide - Public Knowledge [20:25] reptilian_thrills /me tells mike godwin to stfu [20:27] phanes reptilian_thrills, if I were you I'd be more worried about Beyer or the US Government after the war than some cooky journalist's conspiracy theories [20:27] reptilian_thrills Beyer <- third reich, now owns monsanto [20:27] phanes ^ actual confirmable truth [20:27] reptilian_thrills or the US Government <- we were just talking about them [20:28] reptilian_thrills ge <- third reich, owns 1/5 of mainstream media [20:28] TR News "Age-stratified infection fatality rate of COVID-19 in the non-elderly informed from pre-vaccination national seroprevalence studies" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/27/pre-vaccine-fatality-rates/ [20:28] TR Bot Blog Archive Pre-vaccine fatality rates lower than previously thought [20:28] phanes edwin black's opinion pieces on IBM are about as supported as starstreak's flat earth lizard people theories [20:28] reptilian_thrills siemens <- third reich, near monopoly on industrial control systems [20:28] reptilian_thrills edwin black's opinion pieces on IBM are about as supported as starstreak's flat earth lizard people theories <- fair enough [20:28] reptilian_thrills /me lifts it up to see where the argument is [20:28] reptilian_thrills i mean even one thing he presented as fact that isnt? [20:29] reptilian_thrills im not asking you to PROVE him wrong, just to pick one item and say "no" [20:29] starstreak phanes, i don't believe the earth is flat [20:29] phanes well you asked if i'd refute it, i mean, there isn't anything really to refute when the thing being refuted is some washed up journalist saying edgy things to stir anti-antisemetic sentiment without backing facts or documentation to keep the bills paid [20:30] reptilian_thrills to stir anti-antisemetic sentiment <- are you saying edwin black was being anti-semitic by calling ibm nazis [20:30] reptilian_thrills or are you still talking about icke (who borrows from the protocols of elders of zion so accusations of anti-semitism are being begged for) [20:31] phanes no anti-antisemetic is when you try to exploit the public's desire for justice against anti-semetic actions by fabricating the illusion of anti-semetic behaviour by a target for the purpose of generating sensationalism and views [20:31] reptilian_thrills no anti-antisemetic is when you try to exploit the public's desire for justice against anti-semetic actions by fabricating the illusion of anti-semetic behaviour by a target for the purpose of generating sensationalism and view <- that is the most interesting definition ive heard before [20:31] phanes it's the early 2000s equivelant of "you'll never believe what this celebrity said about the queen of england" [20:31] reptilian_thrills fair enough i suppose [20:32] phanes right next to the penis enlargement pill ads when you're looking for boobs on the internet [20:33] TR News Intel is promoting DRM in Linux, AGAIN https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Iris-Protected-Content avoid Intel. Let them rot. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences [20:33] TR Bot Open-Source OpenGL Driver Adds Support For "Protected Content" - Phoronix [20:33] TR Bot Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights [20:33] TR News "4k streaming works just fine on sites that don't insist on using DRM. "piracy" is always the technically and morally superior option over complying with corporate copyright bullshit." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1354414-intel-s-open-source-opengl-driver-adds-support-for-protected-content [20:33] TR Bot Open-Source OpenGL Driver Adds Support For "Protected Content" - Phoronix Forums [20:35] TR News No love for Intel here, to say the least... Intel hates freedom, loves Microsoft and the copyright cartel which is fleecing artists https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1354414-intel-s-open-source-opengl-driver-adds-support-for-protected-content [20:35] phanes "piracy" is always the technically and morally superior option over complying with corporate copyright bullshit. <---- 1000% agreed [20:36] TR News "We regret to inform you that during the 6.4.0 release, we were attacked by release goblins." https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-python-6.4.0.1-release [20:36] TR Bot Qt for Python: the 6.4.0.1 release, what? [20:37] phanes software piracy should be such a rampant and common practice with so many layers of tool support that companies that use DRM should find the winrar license model more profitable [20:38] starstreak of course a 33rd degree mason would make up shit like flat earth to make me look like a kook [20:38] phanes what "33rd degree mason" is making shit up about you, im confused [20:38] starstreak you [20:39] phanes lol I have not gotten my 33rd degree [20:39] starstreak oh [20:39] starstreak i thought you said you were, my mistake [20:39] phanes nope just 32. it's a rare lifetime achievement to get the 33rd [20:39] TR News "FOSSlife Team" promotes BS buzzwords for Adrian Bridgwater and other corporate shills https://www.fosslife.org/whats-edge-developer see Adrian Bridgwater: http://techrights.org/2022/09/17/cheapening-linux-brand-by-hijacking-it/ [20:39] TR Bot Whats an Edge Developer? [20:40] TR Bot Linux Foundation: We Spend Money Buying the Media, Authoring Self-Serving PR by People Who Reject Linux | Techrights [20:40] starstreak there is higher than the 33rd degree [20:40] starstreak 66 and 99 [20:40] phanes lol [20:40] reptilian_thrills "69, dudes!" [20:40] phanes was that carved by a lizard neanderthal on a subterranean cave [20:41] starstreak the neanderthals aren't lizards [20:41] starstreak its a war between the neanderthals and the lizards [20:41] reptilian_thrills /me thinks it sounds like ms-13 getting mixed up with freemasons [20:41] reptilian_thrills i mean both like pythagoras [20:41] reptilian_thrills but who DOESNT like pythagoras, really [20:42] schestowitz[TR3] well, at least insanity gets treated as a subject if humour.. [20:42] reptilian_thrills "catholic church" OK BUT BESIDES THEM [20:42] schestowitz[TR3] *of [20:43] schestowitz[TR3] it is, after all, insanity, full stop, anything else is euphemism [20:43] reptilian_thrills tesla liked pythagoras [20:43] TR News Sounds like either paid spam or a step in the wrong direction https://linuxtechlab.com/what-is-the-best-way-to-convert-pdf-to-word-for-free/ [20:43] TR Bot is the best way to convert PDF to Word for free? - LinuxTechLab [20:43] reptilian_thrills probably the reason the first motor had 3 cores on its rotor (unless thats a myth) [20:44] reptilian_thrills it could have had any number, 2 works but not very well [20:44] TR News A lot ot today's blogs are just sponsored placement for horrible garbage. It gets worse every year on the WWW. [20:44] reptilian_thrills he said it came to him in a dream. this was later referenced in back to the future when doc brown drew the flux capacitor [20:45] TR News An today we learned that Rust openly advocates against consistent, predictable APIs; unstable... right into the kernel. Because of persistent lobbying and mobbing. [20:47] starstreak the reptilians are making the planet warmer so they don't have to live underground anymore. crickets are being put in our food so they have more options. reptilians like bugs. [20:47] schestowitz[TR3] cracktalk not here please [20:47] schestowitz[TR3] it's not the humour channel :-) [20:47] starstreak fair enough [20:48] starstreak if anyone wants to talk conspiracy, there is #conspiracytheory [20:51] TR News (NEW): [Tutorial] #HowTo Install Oracle VirtualBox in Ubuntu and Linux Mint http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/_Tutorial_How_to_Install_Oracle_VirtualBox_in_Ubuntu_and_Linux_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/_Tutorial_How_to_Install_Oracle_VirtualBox_in_Ubuntu_and_Linux_.gmi [20:51] TR Bot Tux Machines [Tutorial] How to Install Oracle VirtualBox in Ubuntu and Linux Mint [20:53] DaemonFC I found some last day organic chicken breasts and froze them. [20:53] DaemonFC You have to get 25% off to get the regular price from last year. [20:53] TR News Finding it hard to get over the fact that Rust's attitude as a project is totally not compatible with GNU and Linux [20:53] DaemonFC 8% inflation, says Biden. [20:53] DaemonFC Getting better every day! [20:53] schestowitz[TR3] chicken brast base price is higjh [20:53] schestowitz[TR3] organic more so [20:53] schestowitz[TR3] 25% off would still be a lot [20:53] DaemonFC Yeah, but the organic is better quality. [20:53] schestowitz[TR3] marrrginally [20:54] DaemonFC You get the regular stuff in the yellow package and like, half of it is water. [20:54] DaemonFC They use water to bulk it up and cheat you when you get to the cash register and scan it. [20:54] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR3], Ever thrown Organic chicken breast in the slow cooker vs. "regular" and come back to it in 4-5 hours? [20:55] DaemonFC The "regular" recipe is swimming in "solution" and the Organic isn't. [20:55] phanes yeah our food supply chains are fucked [20:55] phanes capitalism all the way, but some things need to be more tightly controlled, like food pipelines, medical access, education access [20:56] DaemonFC So it's sleight of hand. Most of the time the cheap stuff costs more because by the time you get to the real net weight of the chicken, it's not nearly what you paid for. [20:56] TR News Mozilla spying on Firefox users, but worry not! It's OPEN... in MICROSOFT'S PROPRIETARY GitHub https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2022/10/27/this-week-in-glean-page-load-data-three-ways-or-how-expensive-are-events/ [20:56] TR Bot This Week in Glean: Page Load Data, Three Ways (Or, How Expensive Are Events?) chuttenblog [20:56] phanes and most everything else needs to be lawless and dangerous [20:56] phanes like cars [20:56] phanes you shouldn't need a license or registration [20:56] DaemonFC If it "contains up to 28% of a solution" and it's $3.19 a pound, then that means you're paying $3.19 a pound for that 28% that's water. [20:56] phanes or be required to buy a certain kind of car [20:56] TR News Mozilla = spying company:"It gets done a lot by each and every one of our users, and so you can imagine that data about pageloads is of important business interest to us." https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2022/10/27/this-week-in-glean-page-load-data-three-ways-or-how-expensive-are-events/ [20:57] DaemonFC So they just cheated you out of 89 cents for each pound of "chicken". [20:57] TR News Mozilla behind your shoulders: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BUY TODAY??? http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/mozilla-no-respect-for-consent/ http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/ [20:57] TR Bot Mozilla Changes Firefox Settings/Themes Without Asking | Techrights [20:57] phanes so grow your own chickens [20:57] TR Bot Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights [20:57] DaemonFC And it really turns out to be $4.08 per pound of actual chicken anyway. [20:57] phanes raise your own cows, make your own milk and butter [20:58] phanes oh wait, you can't, because you need to be a millionaire to START a farm [20:58] DaemonFC If you get the Organic stuff on last day, you pay about $4 a pound and get chicken, because the law doesn't let them adulterate it like this. [20:58] DaemonFC And then it's a lot more tender as well. [20:59] DaemonFC phanes, Before there were any federal regulations on food, people got sick all the time from food, especially in the cities. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 115.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 119.98 [20:59] DaemonFC It was quite common to buy meat and fish right out of a barrel, preserved with salt or maybe some ice. You didn't know how it was handled or what you were actually buying. [20:59] reptilian_thrills plus youd have to lease it from fucking monsanto [20:59] reptilian_thrills who thanks to gates now has a monopoly on THAT too [20:59] DaemonFC The slaughterhouses were bad enough at the source. They'd throw diseased animal carcasses in there and mislabel them. ● Oct 27 [21:00] reptilian_thrills (or im exaggerating. fucking hopefully) [21:00] DaemonFC They said..... [21:00] reptilian_thrills farmhub [21:00] DaemonFC Mary had a little lamb, and when she saw it sicken, she sent it off to packing town, and then they called it "chicken". [21:00] reptilian_thrills capitalism all the way <- jesus goat fucking christ [21:01] DaemonFC Darren Bailey owns a farm. [21:01] DaemonFC They're trying to make it sound like a scandal that he got as much federal and state farm aid as anyone with a farm does. [21:01] DaemonFC His farm wouldn't be profitable without it, because most aren't. [21:02] DaemonFC This is a mess that the federal government has made with subsidies and price support laws. [21:02] DaemonFC If his competitor is taking them, he has to as well in this environment. [21:02] *resistor has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:02] DaemonFC It's not Darren Bailey's fault that the feds have created this huge mess of perverse incentives and price support laws. [21:03] DaemonFC This is 100% weapons grade bullshit, cooked up by the J.B. Pritzker campaign. [21:03] DaemonFC Billionaire heir to a hotel fortune. Hasn't worked a day in his life. [21:03] DaemonFC Routed federal COVID money to prop up his own hotel investments. [21:04] DaemonFC Why isn't anyone talking about how as Governor he made sure that the illegal immigrants and homeless were staying in Hyatt hotels with federal COVID money and it was only after his hotels were fully booked that anyone else got money? [21:05] DaemonFC He also wasn't taking care to be a good steward of that money. He was billing the federal program "market rates" for a Hyatt room. He wasn't lowering the nightly rate to the motel off the interstate to save taxpayers money. [21:06] DaemonFC That's what being a politician in Illinois gets you. Put into a position to get bribes and route government (taxpayer) money to yourself. [21:06] DaemonFC Then you complain when a farmer who grows food for the nation during a hyperinflationary crisis gets a pittance from the USDA that any farmer would. [21:07] DaemonFC This behavior is disgusting and I can't for the life of me see why Bailey isn't doing something with this in his ads. [21:07] DaemonFC Pritzker's ads have all gone negative. It's not upbeat at all. He knows nobody likes him and he's trying to scare people. [21:08] DaemonFC It tries to paint Illinois as being a Klan state if Darren Bailey becomes the governor when nothing of the sort would happen. [21:10] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [21:10] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [21:11] DaemonFC Like, take the South, or Indiana. The governor doesn't get in and get immediately boxed in by a legislature that's 77% Democrats and 5 Constitutional state officers who have half of the executive power. [21:11] DaemonFC That's where Bailey will be, if he even wins. [21:14] starstreak farmhub <- im not kick shaming, is that a porn site for farmers? [21:14] starstreak kink shaming* [21:16] TR News http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/gnunet-0-18-0/ [21:16] TR Bot Links 27/10/2022: Zorin OS 16.2 and GNUnet 0.18.0 | Techrights [21:16] schestowitz[TR3] farmville [21:16] TR News Links 27/10/2022: Zorin OS 16.2 and GNUnet 0.18.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/gnunet-0-18-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/gnunet-0-18-0/ [21:16] schestowitz[TR3] farm-veal [21:16] schestowitz[TR3] for people who love eating kids [21:17] TR News (NEW): Software: New in PCLinuxOS, Some More Spying in Firefox http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Software_New_in_PCLinuxOS_Some_More_Spying_in_Firefox.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Software_New_in_PCLinuxOS_Some_More_Spying_in_Firefox.gmi [21:17] TR Bot Tux Machines Software: New in PCLinuxOS, Some More Spying in Firefox [21:17] starstreak schestowitz[TR3], i dont think anyone eats kids, they just drain their adrenachrome [21:17] schestowitz[TR3] some people order baby cows [21:17] schestowitz[TR3] tghey claim it tastes better [21:18] starstreak oh baby cows [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:22] reptilian_thrills farmhub <- im not kick shaming, is that a porn site for farmers? <- idk, not yet? [21:22] reptilian_thrills i mean if epsteins landscapers banded together... [21:22] reptilian_thrills idk [21:22] reptilian_thrills epstein landscaping co [21:23] reptilian_thrills "those weeds wont kill themselves!" [21:25] TR News Gotta find something to do next gemini://eph.smol.pub/1666883181 "Now that Ive been released from that garbagefire of an organization, I need to find something to do. Its been about a week since I was let go, so I think Id like to have some travel plans set by this time next week." [21:27] TR News slashdot should have link directly to the original, not the Conde Nast garbage https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/10/27/1920206/oldweird-laptops-sought-to-help-test-linux-kernel-backlight-drivers [21:27] TR Bot 'Old/Weird Laptops' Sought To Help Test Linux Kernel Backlight Drivers - Slashdot [21:31] TR News [no, he is NOT dead] Paul Grahams Legacy | I, Cringely https://www.cringely.com/2022/10/27/paul-grahams-legacy/ Source: I Cringely | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cringely.com/2022/10/27/paul-grahams-legacy/ [21:31] TR Bot Grahams Legacy | I, Cringely [21:36] TR News KDE 5.26 gets a second point release (yes, already) The Register http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/26/KDE_Plasma_5_26_2_Disables_Animated_Wallpaper_Feature_on_X11_Du.shtml [21:36] TR Bot Tux Machines KDE Plasma 5.26.2 Disables Animated Wallpaper Feature on X11 Due to Severe Memory Leak [21:37] TR News Dir Command in Linux [Examples] https://linuxhandbook.com/dir-command/ Source: Linux Handbook | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhandbook.com/dir-command/ [21:37] TR Bot Dir Command in Linux [Examples] [21:37] TR News (NEW): Ubuntu 23.04 Codename Revealed And Its a Lucently Likeable Label http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Likeable_Label.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Likeable_Label.gmi [21:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Ubuntu 23.04 Codename Revealed And Its a Lucently Likeable Label [21:44] TR News More Problems With Googles Insecure Apps Alert and SeaMonkey Mail | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/google-fake-security/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/google-fake-security/ [21:44] TR Bot More Problems With Googles Insecure Apps Alert and SeaMonkey Mail | Techrights [21:46] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-138-11.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [21:47] TR News IWB correctly calls it "Work from home (WFH)" rather than "remote work", which is misleading propaganda of bosses who want workers under their "thumb" (and BOOT!) https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/10/the-latest-trends-in-work-from-home-wfh.html [21:47] TR Bot Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Latest Trends in Work from Home (WFH) [21:51] TR News (NEW): 4 Best Free and Open Source GUI Spotify Clients http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_GUI_Spotify_Clients.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_GUI_Spotify_Clients.gmi [21:51] TR Bot Tux Machines 4 Best Free and Open Source GUI Spotify Clients [21:54] TR News "But finally, I did find something positive to say. Ive been able to attend a number of meetings, including weekly lunch seminars, that pre-pandemic required me to drive for a few hours or catch a plane. In response to the pandemic, these meeting first changed from physical to online, and more recently to hybrid." https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/10/the-latest-trends-in-work-from-home-wfh.html ● Oct 27 [22:00] TR News Performance reviews | Mardy http://www.mardy.it/blog/2022/10/performance-review.html Source: Alberto Mardegan | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//www.mardy.it/blog/2022/10/performance-review.html [22:00] TR Bot Performance reviews | Mardy [22:01] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.3.gmi [22:01] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [22:01] TR News LOL. "Director of Sustainability" in a Microsoft front group called OSI https://blog.opensource.org/all-things-open-post-event-blog/ [22:01] TR Bot All Things Open post event blog - Voices of Open Source [22:03] TR News The Open Source Initiative (OSI) Speaks for Microsoft, Which is Worse Than Before http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/osi-soft/ [22:03] TR Bot The Open Source Initiative (OSI) Speaks for Microsoft, Which is Worse Than Before | Techrights [22:04] TR News "OAuth is turning into a major usability disaster and theres not any guarantee that simple UA hacks will keep SeaMonkey working. Google could actually resort to testing browser features that it knows are only in the latest supported applications." http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/google-fake-security/ [22:05] TR News The FakeSecurity(R) company Gulag lectures us on security https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2022/10/rc4-is-still-considered-harmful.html Gulag(R) considered Espionage [22:05] TR Bot Project Zero: RC4 Is Still Considered Harmful [22:06] TR News CLOWN security... for the CLOWNS ;-) https://www.darkreading.com/cloud/4-reasons-open-source-matters-for-cloud-security [22:06] TR Bot 4 Reasons Open Source Matters for Cloud Security [22:07] TR News 'Clown computing' = SECURITY BREACH. "Oh, dang!!! We have ALL OUR DATA and CUSTOMERS'/PATIENTS' DATA.... to that military from that other country! Who's responsible for this!!!???" [22:08] TR News In 2013, the DoJ demanded that Microsoft grant it access to emails related to a narcotics case from a Hotmail account hosted in Ireland. http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/ [22:08] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights [22:09] TR News State of Korea in LibreOffice and promoting future plans, with DaeHyun Sung https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/10/27/writer-calc-sparklines-more-videos/ http://techrights.org/2019/05/17/south-korea-linux/ [22:10] TR Bot LibreOffice Conference 2022 videos: Localisation, Writer, Calc, Sparklines, Web Assembly and more - The Document Foundation Blog [22:10] TR Bot Links 17/5/2019: South Koreas GNU/Linux Pivot, Linux 5.1.3 | Techrights [22:11] TR News "To create a Kubernetes deployment, we must specify the matchLabels field, even though its value must match the one we specify in the template. But why? Cannot Kubernetes be smart enough to figure it out without us being explicit?" https://rpadovani.com/kubernetes-deployments much retraining will be needed when this fad passed over [22:11] TR Bot Why K8s deployments need `matchLabels` keyword [22:12] TR News "The focus of the new Ubuntu release, Gitea's surprising announcement, and Linux prepares to drop another architecture." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8974 [22:13] TR News ICBM Red Hat is Openwashing (!) a PATERNT cartel https://www.redhat.com/en/events/open5g [22:13] TR Bot Red Hat Open5G [22:14] TR News Code Comments - An original podcast from Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/code-comments-podcast?sc_cid=7013a000002q6eQAAQ Source: Red Hat Official site, worthless without JS. Cannot be accessed much... [22:14] TR Bot Code Comments - An original podcast from Red Hat [22:16] TR News Red Hat boasts about killing people https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/lockheed-martin-red-hat-collaborate-advance-artificial-intelligence-military-missions see http://techrights.org/2020/04/24/raytheon-blessed-by-red-hat/ and http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/regime-change-in-haiti/ [22:16] TR Bot Lockheed Martin, Red Hat Collaborate to Advance Artificial Intelligence for Military Missions [22:16] TR Bot Giving Awards to Raytheon Wont Help Red Hats Image | Techrights [22:16] TR Bot Chairman of the Board of Red Hat Explains He Was Introduced to GNU/Linux When It Helped His Regime Change in Haiti | Techrights [22:16] schestowitz[TR3] reptilian_thrills: ^ [22:16] schestowitz[TR3] we came, we saw, he died [22:17] schestowitz[TR3] HEY HI [22:17] schestowitz[TR3] with lockmart [22:17] schestowitz[TR3] incredible openness [22:17] schestowitz[TR3] don't forget the share the modified bullets [22:18] TR News killall -9 redhat. "The Lockheed Martin use case was about providing direct control to drones that had already been deployed but might need to have their mission altered in flight." https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/red-hat-shrinks-openshift-for-device-edge/2022/10/ [22:18] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/red-hat-shrinks-openshift-for-device-edge/2022/10/ ) [22:19] TR News Women and children dismembered by bombs will be happy to know the missiles were backed by Red Hat(TM) OpenShift(R) at the back end. They will die happily. [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:20] TR News Red Hat must be running out of clients and cases studies to boast about. Quite a few dumped the company, seeing what ICBM does to the products. [22:22] TR News How to Run ChromeOS Flex From a USB Drive https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-use-chromeos-flex-from-usb/ Source: Make Use Of | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/how-to-use-chromeos-flex-from-usb/ [22:22] TR Bot How to Run ChromeOS Flex From a USB Drive [22:27] TR News (NEW): TiVo Goes Back To The (Linux) Well http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/TiVo_Goes_Back_To_The_Linux_Well.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/TiVo_Goes_Back_To_The_Linux_Well.gmi [22:27] TR Bot Tux Machines TiVo Goes Back To The (Linux) Well [22:30] TR News Mark J Cox (@iamamoose): "OpenSSL 3.0.7 update to fix Critical CVE out next Tuesday 1300-1700UTC. Does not affect versions before 3.0." https://nitter.eu/iamamoose/status/1584908434855628800 Source: https://www.openssl.org/policies/general/security-policy.html [22:30] TR Bot J Cox (@iamamoose): "OpenSSL 3.0.7 update to fix Critical CVE out next Tuesday 1300-1700UTC. Does not affect versions before 3.0. https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2022-October/000238.html"|nitter.it [22:30] TR Bot /policies/general/security-policy.html [22:31] *psydread (eace4d91cc@freenode-fvj.6po.iua1uf.IP) has left #techrights [22:31] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/10/27/1131907041/facebook-meta-campaign-finance-fine [22:31] TR Bot Facebook parent is fined $25M for violating campaign finance disclosure law : NPR [22:31] TR News Arch Linux Has A Problem And Git Is To Blame - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SLJUJezBsXc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/SLJUJezBsXc [22:31] TR Bot Arch Linux Has A Problem And Git Is To Blame - Invidious [22:31] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR3], ^ Every little bit helps. [22:31] schestowitz[TR3] NPR [22:31] schestowitz[TR3] funded by [22:31] schestowitz[TR3] FACCEBOOK [22:32] schestowitz[TR3] Bill and LOLITA gates Foundation [22:32] schestowitz[TR3] Microsoft [22:32] schestowitz[TR3] listener supported lies [22:32] schestowitz[TR3] "support us" [22:32] schestowitz[TR3] "listen tol us:' [22:32] schestowitz[TR3] "hat helps us attract more funding from BillG" [22:33] *Luis64_gamer (~Luis64_gamer@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [22:34] TR News 1) proprietary. 2) DRM. 3) NOT about Linux. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Steam-Big-Picture-Updated [22:34] TR Bot Big Picture Mode Now Available For Testing In Latest Steam Beta - Phoronix [22:35] TR News Things shrinking, not just items of food. Is capitalism failing us? https://itwire.com/mobility/china-3q-smartphone-shipments-better-than-2q,-but-down-on-2021.html [22:35] TR Bot - China 3Q smartphone shipments better than 2Q, but down on 2021 [22:39] TR News "Ah yeah. Ooh ahh. Thats how it always starts. Then later theres the running and the screaming." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/27.2 [22:40] TR News "A nearby church is giving an improptude concert with the church bells. I wasn't aware that American churches even had bells anymore. How neat!" gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/27.1 [22:40] TR News (NEW): fun with pygame Michael Ablassmeier http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/fun_with_pygame_Michael_Ablassmeier.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/fun_with_pygame_Michael_Ablassmeier.gmi [22:40] TR Bot Tux Machines fun with pygame Michael Ablassmeier [22:42] *horseface has quit (connection closed) [22:42] *ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:43] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [22:43] TR News (NEW): Security: RC4, Clown Computing, and OpenSSL Headsup http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_RC4_Clown_Computing_and_OpenSSL_Headsup.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_RC4_Clown_Computing_and_OpenSSL_Headsup.gmi [22:43] TR Bot Tux Machines Security: RC4, Clown Computing, and OpenSSL Headsup [22:46] *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights [22:50] TR News (NEW): Videos: Arch Linux, Code Comments, Linux Action News, and LibreOffice http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Videos_Arch_Linux_Code_Comments_Linux_Action_News_and_LibreOffi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Videos_Arch_Linux_Code_Comments_Linux_Action_News_and_LibreOffi.gmi [22:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos: Arch Linux, Code Comments, Linux Action News, and LibreOffice [22:50] TR News (NEW): Red Hat Boasts About STRIKING Deals With Lockheed Martin (Wars) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Red_Hat_Boasts_About_STRIKING_Deals_With_Lockheed_Martin_Wars.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Red_Hat_Boasts_About_STRIKING_Deals_With_Lockheed_Martin_Wars.gmi [22:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Red Hat Boasts About STRIKING Deals With Lockheed Martin (Wars) [22:51] TR News Zorin OS 16.2 Is Here as the Best Linux Distro for Windows Users http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Zorin_OS_16_2_Arrives_as_a_Friendly_and_Accessible_Alternative_.shtml [22:51] TR Bot Tux Machines Zorin OS 16.2 Arrives as a Friendly and Accessible Alternative to Windows 11 [22:52] TR News KDE 5.26 gets a second point release (yes, already) The Register http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/26/KDE_Plasma_5_26_2_Disables_Animated_Wallpaper_Feature_on_X11_Du.shtml [22:52] TR Bot Tux Machines KDE Plasma 5.26.2 Disables Animated Wallpaper Feature on X11 Due to Severe Memory Leak [22:53] TR News The USPTO Must Restore America Invents Act Proceedings - Patent Progress https://www.patentprogress.org/2022/10/the-uspto-must-restore-america-invents-act-proceedings/ Source: Josh Landau | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.patentprogress.org/2022/10/the-uspto-must-restore-america-invents-act-proceedings/ [22:53] TR Bot The USPTO Must Restore America Invents Act Proceedings - Patent Progress [22:54] TR News "I will be watching closely in the coming months for formal rulemaking regarding the Fintiv factors and IPR more generally. Reforms that restore AIA proceedings to their original promise would encourage greater innovation and promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts." Microsoft Vidal for software patents https://www.patentprogress.org/2022/10/the-uspto-must-restore-america-invents-act-proceedings/ [22:54] TR News Reminder: USPTO now run by former lawyer for MICROSOFT! Truly awful. http://techrights.org/wiki/USPTO#2022 [22:54] TR Bot USPTO - Techrights [22:54] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [22:55] TR News How much of this actually teaches you GNU programs and not Linux? https://www.suse.com/c/the-success-continues-6th-edition-of-getting-started-with-linux-available/ [22:55] TR Bot success continues - 6th edition of 'Getting started with Linux' available | SUSE Communities [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 42.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 123.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.38 ● Oct 27 [23:01] TR News TUXEDO Computers releases InfinityBook Pro 16 Gen7 Laptop http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/25/TUXEDO_InfinityBook_Pro_16_Gen7_Linux_Laptop_Launches_with_240H.shtml [23:01] TR Bot Tux Machines TUXEDO InfinityBook Pro 16 Gen7 Linux Laptop Launches with 240Hz Display, DDR5 RAM [23:07] TR News Links 27/10/2022: Ubuntu 23.04 is Lucently Likeable, OpenSSL Patch Coming | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/openssl-patch-coming/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/openssl-patch-coming/ [23:07] TR Bot Links 27/10/2022: Ubuntu 23.04 is Lucently Likeable, OpenSSL Patch Coming | Techrights [23:07] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.4.gmi [23:07] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [23:08] TR News (UPDATED): TUXEDO InfinityBook Pro 16 Gen7 Linux Laptop Launches with 240Hz Display, DDR5 RAM http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/25/TUXEDO_InfinityBook_Pro_16_Gen7_Linux_Laptop_Launches_with_240H.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/25/TUXEDO_InfinityBook_Pro_16_Gen7_Linux_Laptop_Launches_with_240H.gmi [23:11] *horseface (~horseface@5x5s3vcpnr55g.irc) has joined #techrights [23:15] schestowitz[TR3] wow, antony at 4:35 [23:15] schestowitz[TR3] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WjZOMEad-fM [23:15] TR Bot Manchester United vs Sheriff Tiraspol 3-0 | All Gals & Hghlghts | UEFA Europa League 2022/23 - Invidious [23:17] starstreak I need more BD-R disks but they went up in price :( [23:17] starstreak i remember when i could buy a 50 pack of 25GB disks for $25 [23:17] starstreak now they're $50 [23:18] starstreak $1 per 25GB disk [23:18] schestowitz[TR3] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tkt-I5Puq_E [23:18] TR Bot Antony does his trademark spin but then fails afterwards #footballgossips #antony #manutd #europa - Invidious [23:18] starstreak clown storage is destroying BD-R prices [23:19] starstreak BD-R disks are nice because I can get 25GB of data off my hard drive per disk [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] starstreak 50GB BD-R disks are even worse in price [23:20] starstreak i wish people still used optical disks [23:23] TR News In Ukraine, market share of GNU/Linux increased to 3.25% this month? https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/ukraine/#monthly-202111-202210 [23:23] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share Ukraine | Statcounter Global Stats [23:24] DaemonFC So today I filed a lawsuit against an insurance company. [23:24] DaemonFC That'll be interesting. [23:24] DaemonFC Can't go into more details than that though. [23:25] DaemonFC BD-R disks are nice because I can get 25GB of data off my hard drive per disk [23:25] DaemonFC I've been meaning to buy some. [23:25] starstreak I got a disk binder full of TV shows, stuff i want to keep but i don't want taking up space on my hard drive [23:25] DaemonFC I can burn clean Blu Ray Discs without any of that DRM shit on them. [23:26] TR News Windows dominant in only 2 very tiny countries in Africa https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/africa/#monthly-202210-202210-map [23:26] TR Bot Operating System Market Share Africa | Statcounter Global Stats [23:26] DaemonFC Even if you buy commercial discs, you don't get to keep the movies forever. [23:26] DaemonFC Some variant of "laser rot" always sets in, and if you don't back it up to something without DRM, you're going to lose it, eventually. [23:27] DaemonFC They've improved the disc materials and the machinery that burns the discs at the factory a lot since they had LaserDisc with the "laser rot" that set in roughly 5-6 years after you bought the discs (which were VERY expensive). [23:27] DaemonFC But nothing lasts forever. [23:27] DaemonFC Now you may get 30 years. [23:28] *horseface_ (~horseface@vihat8atwcj36.irc) has joined #techrights [23:29] DaemonFC It's possible you could get more. I mean, I have plenty of CDs that were pressed in the 1980s that still play fine. No obvious errors on them. If I rip from them, they still match AccurateRIP, so they can't have deviated from the factory in a way that affects the readout, yet. [23:29] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:29] DaemonFC But they are very old. [23:29] schestowitz[TR3] Windows dominant in only 2 very tiny countries in Africa https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/africa/#monthly-202210-202210-map [23:29] DaemonFC But when they do, it's too late. [23:30] DaemonFC One of the things about CDs that is maddening is that they have built-in error "correction" which is more like concealment. [23:30] DaemonFC Where it replaces a defect with comfort noise or something if it encounters and error that's not too awfully bad. [23:30] DaemonFC So it "hides" the fact that the disc is getting "sick" and potentially on the way out. [23:31] DaemonFC When they set up the standard, this behavior made sense. You weren't supposed to rip them and the DRM was simply the fact that nobody had that much storage anyway. [23:32] DaemonFC If they had the technology they do today, and they were going to make something like a CD, it would have Blu-Ray style DRM on them, and it would be horrific. [23:34] DaemonFC They try this anyway, by not giving you any physical media that you can use offline and a lossy file that you can't have, just you download it every single time you listen. [23:34] DaemonFC And all of this while you pay for the bandwidth needed to do it and so it crapfloods the Internet and runs up your phone and Internet bills. [23:34] DaemonFC They call it Spotify or Apple Music. [23:35] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR3], Spotify down 14% yesterday! [23:35] DaemonFC LOL [23:35] DaemonFC What a shitshow. Serves them and their investors right. [23:36] DaemonFC Meta Platforms, Inc. (META) [23:36] DaemonFC 97.94-31.88 (-24.56%) [23:36] DaemonFC LOL [23:37] DaemonFC Down 24.56% on one day! One DAY! (Fakebook) [23:37] DaemonFC Die motherfucker, die! [23:38] DaemonFC Stock price today is less than 25% of where they were on September 5th, 2021. [23:38] DaemonFC And they act like this is fine and the company's not dying. [23:38] DaemonFC It's going away fast. [23:39] DaemonFC The only "Tech" that's up is Twitter because Elon Musk ran his big mouth off and now has to pay more than what it could ever possibly be worth. Possibly by a factor of 10. [23:41] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR3], Looks like "Social Control Media" is about dead. [23:41] schestowitz[TR3] it's not doing well [23:41] DaemonFC Advertisers themselves are going bankrupt. [23:42] DaemonFC Companies aren't spending on ads as much. They certainly want to make every dollar count. [23:42] DaemonFC Many Consumer Goods companies are dialing back the ad spend and putting out coupons instead. [23:42] schestowitz[TR3] yes, wel... wait till Musk fired 75% of twitter workers [23:42] schestowitz[TR3] buy corn [23:42] schestowitz[TR3] for popcorn [23:42] DaemonFC I suspect iBotta is probably a good investment right now. [23:43] DaemonFC It's an ad platform that has good consumer engagement. [23:43] schestowitz[TR3] ibotta somee shares in a-facebopok [23:43] DaemonFC People respond better to direct cash payments than they do to a TV ad or something. [23:43] schestowitz[TR3] i-a lost-a alla ma monewy [23:44] DaemonFC iBotta partnered directly with Walmart to offer rebates on Walmart's site through your Walmart account. [23:44] schestowitz[TR3] HEYYYYY HIIII https://yewtu.be/watch?v=M8PYI6P1fnw [23:44] TR Bot Nobody's paying attention to Meta's investments in artificial intelligence, says Morris Mark - Invidious [23:44] schestowitz[TR3] which HEY HAIIIS are you doing, zuck? [23:45] schestowitz[TR3] zuck.. AAALLLLLLLLLL!! The AIs. [23:46] DaemonFC METAVERSE! [23:46] DaemonFC It's in the dictionary. [23:46] DaemonFC Soon, new dictionary. [23:47] DaemonFC See; Bankruptcy [23:47] TR News 14% in Finland. GNU/Linux. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/finland/#monthly-202111-202210 [23:47] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share Finland | Statcounter Global Stats [23:47] DaemonFC Musk says he plans to fire most people at Twitter. [23:47] schestowitz[TR3] most?? [23:47] schestowitz[TR3] 75% [23:47] DaemonFC Yeah. [23:47] schestowitz[TR3] most would be like 50-60% [23:47] schestowitz[TR3] 75% is likke.....w [23:47] schestowitz[TR3] wow [23:47] DaemonFC Okay, very nearly everyone. [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] I said to rianne [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] imagine the company said [23:48] DaemonFC The place is going to collapse into a total sewer. [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] ok, you two say... alol the rest. FIRED [23:48] DaemonFC No advertisers will want to touch it. [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] How do you even run the company? [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] surely those 25% don't know how to do ALL the tasks [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] and the rest will flee fast in protest [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] garden leave [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] no knowledge transfer [23:48] DaemonFC I thought maybe Musk gotta Musk. [23:48] DaemonFC But then it occurred to me. [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] reports say twitter staff is panicking [23:48] schestowitz[TR3] and the company ntries to calm t hem do0wn [23:49] schestowitz[TR3] untilk the transaction completes [23:49] DaemonFC He was having trouble getting enough money to pay for the company at the inflated price he pledged. [23:49] schestowitz[TR3] maybe there's a stutn up his sleeve [23:49] schestowitz[TR3] saying he'd fire them all [23:49] schestowitz[TR3] to cause mass resignation [23:49] DaemonFC So maybe he's just broke and can't afford to actually run it once he gets it. [23:49] schestowitz[TR3] and then say he's not buying [23:49] schestowitz[TR3] it's not just him paying [23:49] schestowitz[TR3] it's the saudis and larry ellison too [23:50] schestowitz[TR3] why would they even want it at this stage? [23:50] XRevan86 "Soon, new dictionary." <- The IRC metaverse understands things. [23:50] schestowitz[TR3] a leaaked document from thew company and the whistleblower show the company is dying [23:50] schestowitz[TR3] and issuing MEMES about i [23:50] schestowitz[TR3] intenrnally [23:50] schestowitz[TR3] *MEMEOS [23:50] schestowitz[TR3] MEMOS [23:50] schestowitz[TR3] sorry, writing ina hurry [23:51] DaemonFC It's amazing how badly the Republican Party of Alaska managed to blow it. [23:51] DaemonFC They ran Sarah Palin, threw away a House seat that they controlled for over 40 years, and then blamed Ranked Choice Voting. [23:52] DaemonFC She can see Russia from her house, you know. [23:59] starstreak debian is so old, its default keyboard setting is hieroglyphics [23:59] starstreak thats why roy makes so many typos