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| schestowitz | thanks for the details | Nov 27 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | ok, I made some more corrections | Nov 27 00:00 |
| schestowitz | someone has just sent me a cartton | Nov 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz | *toon | Nov 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz | EPO | Nov 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz | btw, we've put a bid on a house today | Nov 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz | the one next door went on sale | Nov 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz | seems that many chinese buy lots of houses around here | Nov 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz | driving up the prices | Nov 27 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what made old hardware so awesome. Nothing was really abstracted too much. | Nov 27 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Careful Roy, you're sounding awfully white and nationalist. | Nov 27 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Boris and Brexit support incoming. (j/k) | Nov 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz | this is not a new thing | Nov 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz | anyway, price rose a lot over the past decade | Nov 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No it isn't. I realize Mandy came here as a foreign student. | Nov 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz | corona only slows down price growth in flats near office | Nov 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz | people no longer need to live next to the office | Nov 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I'm glad he did because I wouldn't have met him and would never have been able to get a fiance visa from State Dept. | Nov 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz | so they explore places away from crowded office spaces | Nov 27 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But now that we are married, there's not a damned thing the federal government can do really. | Nov 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz | just make sure he gets no criminal record | Nov 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz | and then he should be ok | Nov 27 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And with Biden in office, they'll stop trying to make doing anything an uphill battle because they otherwise can't win. | Nov 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz | working also helps | Nov 27 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, we already cleared the income requirements for the year, and if they delay through next year, even better. | Nov 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz | people more law-abiding and productive than so-called locals are impossible to evict | Nov 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz | no rationale to | Nov 27 00:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can project his income for a 12 month basis using 6 months of paystubs and use that in the "annual income", so if they call us in next year, that's what I will do, and attach them as proof. | Nov 27 00:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Avoiding a conviction really helped get this place. | Nov 27 00:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing came up when they did a criminal check through Transunion. | Nov 27 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm glad I took the plea deal. | Nov 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 27 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had a 90% chance of it being so much worse if I persisted. | Nov 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz | seems like you brandished a knife | Nov 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz | but hurt nobody at the end | Nov 27 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Immigration isn't really looking at me though. | Nov 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz | they look for two thinbgs | Nov 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz | self-sufficiency | Nov 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz | law-abiding persons | Nov 27 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say that. I had a fishing knife because I was fishing, on my deck, earlier. | Nov 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz | the income requirements are just a bonus | Nov 27 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it was easy for John and Luis to say "He pulled it out and was waving it around." because why not. | Nov 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz | "He pulled it out and was waving it around." | Nov 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz | they wish | Nov 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz | too many pr0n movies | Nov 27 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just makes me sound worse and makes it more likely the cops get rid of me. | Nov 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz | and in John's case illegal ones | Nov 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz | TSA never even RESPONDED to me | Nov 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz | they're OK employing pedophiles and perverts | Nov 27 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I agree that I committed a Class C Misdemeanor of creating a public nuisance. | Nov 27 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I told them I won't confess to anything more than that, and I want supervision. | Nov 27 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course they never responded. | Nov 27 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm assuming he's still got an income. | Nov 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz | no planes, passengers | Nov 27 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I keep getting receipts about him paying the Kia bills, but the account went to the bankruptcy department so they forced him to pay an extra $10 a month to wire them the money for the remaining 50 installments. | Nov 27 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I think he's on unemployment. | Nov 27 00:16 |
| schestowitz | for now | Nov 27 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no way he had enough seniority to avoid the layoffs. | Nov 27 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's people who have been there for 19 years. He's been there for 2. | Nov 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz | I bet he misses groping people | Nov 27 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 85% collapse in air travel, airlines sacking people.... | Nov 27 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No way he's still working there. | Nov 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz | airports don't exist to us anymore | Nov 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz | except emergency travel | Nov 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz | people assume the airports are covid hubs with hazmat suits and quarantine rooms | Nov 27 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I've been on a plane 4 times (two round trips). | Nov 27 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Got sick both times, after getting back. | Nov 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | I hope not to fly for a decade | Nov 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | last time I flew was 23 months ago | Nov 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | to berlin | Nov 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | don't miss the thing | Nov 27 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now if that was the flu, imagine how contagious COVID-19 is on an airplane, especially when they admit that they went back to cleaning them one time a day. | Nov 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz | horrible experience on the way back, massive delays, no place to even sit at the airport | Nov 27 00:19 |
| schestowitz | 'airport' | Nov 27 00:19 |
| schestowitz | interim piece of junk | Nov 27 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's recycled air more than surfaces at that point, but the fact is that the surfaces aren't even being cleaned much. | Nov 27 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you have that on top of it. | Nov 27 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I prefer taking a bus or train, myself. | Nov 27 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I get a big discount on Amtrak. | Nov 27 00:20 |
| schestowitz | people not need to warm up cars | Nov 27 00:20 |
| schestowitz | to exercise engine cycles | Nov 27 00:20 |
| schestowitz | and to keep the battery not empty | Nov 27 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, one break I've been getting is low gas prices. | Nov 27 00:20 |
| schestowitz | many here have cars they have nowhere to drive with | Nov 27 00:20 |
| schestowitz | so they just burn petrol to prevent or reduce long-term damage | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | or drive nowhere for no reason | Nov 27 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oil is collapsing and now that we have the return of better environmental regs coming, it's clear that oil is in permanent decline as an investment. | Nov 27 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the price is not going to rebound. | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | gas prices low... because you don't need gas | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | supply/demand | Nov 27 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With more fleet turnover, more of them will get better gas mileage or be all electric. | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | prices of things are low when people don't need them or few bother | Nov 27 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then demand goes down. | Nov 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | people now look for homes | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | that have good working spaces | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | as they don't leave them much | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | like people who only go home to sleep | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | or used to have no pets | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | due to office time | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | people adapt | Nov 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | many move to smaller places they can afford | Nov 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | some need bigger spaces | Nov 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | as kids and parents stay home to work | Nov 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | tomorrow we'll see how our big fares | Nov 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | we plan to retire far from here | Nov 27 00:24 |
| *schestowitz been in Manchester 20+ years | Nov 27 00:24 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm glad for a one bedroom apartment. 4 times as much space at that hotel. | Nov 27 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They had everything set up for space saving, but come on. | Nov 27 00:25 |
| schestowitz | quicker to cleaan | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | at high standards | Nov 27 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm still convinced that Black Friday isn't the only reason Lenovo is discounting these brand new laptops with all the latest components so much. | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | hotels are not homes | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | and they're made accordingly | Nov 27 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've never knocked nearly $600 off one right off the bat. | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | usually no proper kitchen if any | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: maybe they have overstocked | Nov 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | when lockdowns began many bought laptop | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | as the ones at work were not available | Nov 27 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Other OEMs are only taking things down $200-300 off their usual price. | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | some were stationary | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | and now demand can flatted or fall off | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | same for home furnishing btw | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | we got two new ergonomic chairs | Nov 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | due to a blunder we got both for free | Nov 27 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft has not discounted the Surface very much, and frankly I don't think it's a great laptop in the first place. | Nov 27 00:28 |
| schestowitz | saved like 500 pounds! | Nov 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's another one of those "You pay a lot because ooh ahhh touch screen you barely use and high res that nothing performs well and some things look bad on.". | Nov 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They skimp elsewhere, where it really matters. | Nov 27 00:28 |
| *schestowitz generates irc logs | Nov 27 00:28 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're paying reviewers to pimp them out and it's not a well balanced machine. | Nov 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think they could be a lot better with the Iris Xe graphics, but they're all using the last gen stuff that's only half as fast. | Nov 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I got bitten by that 4K touchscreen without a GPU that can run it well bullshit last time. | Nov 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not as bad as the first batch of Yoga 900s that had the 26% slower graphics. | Nov 27 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Generating text bulletins (it can take a minute) at 5AM | Nov 27 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the Iris 540 still didn't run things well. | Nov 27 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Intel's new driver is a lot better, even on Gen9 graphics. | Nov 27 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is as old as they bothered to support with the Iris driver. | Nov 27 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Iris driver was really done up because of the upcoming Gen12 stuff. | Nov 27 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It just happened that the last few iterations were similar enough to it to support without writing a bunch of code just for that. | Nov 27 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So anything older than Skylake, you're stuck with their crappy Classic Mesa driver. | Nov 27 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm hoping they cleaned up some of their processor bugs correctly. | Nov 27 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't believe that Tiger Lake needs KPTI. | Nov 27 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-tiger-lake-processors-will-thwart-future-spectre-and-meltdown-attacks | Nov 27 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Tiger Lake processors will thwart future Spectre and Meltdown attacks | TechRadar | Nov 27 00:40 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 27 00:45 |
| schestowitz | f off , intel | Nov 27 00:45 |
| schestowitz | and techradar too | Nov 27 00:45 |
| schestowitz | jokester joke | Nov 27 00:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/10/22/techradar-misinformation/ | Nov 27 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | TechRadar is an Irresponsible Clickbait and Misinformation Site Disguised as ‘News’ | Techrights | Nov 27 00:46 | |
| schestowitz | Intel: buy us... because we're good at solving problems we create | Nov 27 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/technology/microsoft-edge-will-now-offer-inbuilt-price-comparison-screenshot-and-video-calling-tools/ar-BB19Rzb2 | Nov 27 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Microsoft Edge Will Now Offer Inbuilt Price Comparison, Screenshot and Video Calling Tools | Nov 27 00:46 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Edge has some "price comparison thing" now. Guessing that they make money off it. | Nov 27 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems like several banks are doing that too, and applying coupon codes automatically. | Nov 27 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good way to harvest your data. | Nov 27 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I signed into my Lenovo account to buy that thing because they said they'd give me $58 to use in their store as "rewards". | Nov 27 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I'll probably go back and grab a bluetooth mouse and a laptop bag. | Nov 27 00:48 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: why do you buy all those things? | Nov 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | also, what do you do with your machines anyway? | Nov 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | pet shop boys? | Nov 27 00:57 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: that inbuilt price comparison does provide a lot of extra meta data. | Nov 27 01:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: "When you click 'compare price to other retailers,' you'll see a list of prices of that item across other retailers along with direct links to the pages so that you can quickly complete your purchase," << when user clicks on it means it is a product the user is intersted in and there has to be a search done somewhere. | Nov 27 01:13 |
| oiaohm | That information could be highly useful for targeting advertisements and so on. | Nov 27 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "also, what do you do with your m"> Steam games, browsing, etc. etc. | Nov 27 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll probably grab The Witcher 3 after the new laptop arrives. | Nov 27 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This one would probably run it at like 6 frames a second. | Nov 27 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I've just used mitigations=off to try to keep this laptop fast enough to tolerate. | Nov 27 01:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That certainly makes it run faster, but it's not comparable to a new system. | Nov 27 01:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Google already has price comparison. | Nov 27 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Credit card price protection used to be more of a thing, and I'd keep an eye on major purchases because it would say it was tracking them, but then it really was on you to find one. | Nov 27 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not surprising. It's not like they want to mail you checks for $100 here and $300 there. | Nov 27 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/identity/syskey-exe-utility-is-no-longer-supported | Nov 27 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.microsoft.com | Syskey.exe utility is no longer supported - Windows Server | Microsoft Docs | Nov 27 01:41 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft had to remove it because some ransomware was using it. | Nov 27 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's funny. | Nov 27 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Intel is pitching Machine Deep Learning instructions in their latest CPUs. | Nov 27 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlJtohZSsfY | Nov 27 01:56 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJF9k1R0bPc | Nov 27 02:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | That Aliens game at Dave & Busters was fun. | Nov 27 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I played it for a few hours before getting the high score. Got a major cramp in my arm though. | Nov 27 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was right before the Coronavirus. Glad we got a chance to do something outside the house before that hit. | Nov 27 02:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roSTKPk_DP8 | Nov 27 02:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LGR - Deadly Tide - PC Game Review - YouTube | Nov 27 02:09 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "It turns out the aliens aren't really doing much except raising the sea levels and not paying their cable bill, or something." | Nov 27 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Nov 27 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDLaptops/comments/j1zzbk/lenovo_announces_thinkbook_gen_2_laptop_lineup/ | Nov 27 02:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo announces ThinkBook Gen 2 laptop lineup with Intel Tiger Lake and AMD Ryzen 4000U processors : AMDLaptops | Nov 27 02:21 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It looks like there's a Thinkbook 13 gen2 with a 4K display. Speculation is that they had a lot of leftover screens after a run of Macbooks and put that one in and that's why only the smallest screen option has that resolution. | Nov 27 02:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: horrible as it sounds apple orders custom batches of screens and other core parts and takes the lot. | Nov 27 02:25 |
| oiaohm | That kind of screws third party repair. | Nov 27 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't really recommend lower or higher resolution than 1920x1080. | Nov 27 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lower is unpleasant, and higher and some applications just aren't built for it, it wastes power, and it doesn't perform well on integrated graphics | Nov 27 02:26 |
| oiaohm | For a drawing surface 13 inch 4k make sense. But this is something your nose can be like 6 inchs off the screen. | Nov 27 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Chromebooks get rid of the "Wouldn't that be nice?" stuff to hit $179. | Nov 27 02:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And if you are only going to spend $179, hey at least it works, unlike those cheap Windows computers that are just terrible. | Nov 27 02:27 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | But those TN display viewing angle problems are not nice. | Nov 27 02:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And they don't do anti-glare coatings, so if you are outside or near a window on a sunny day you can't see shit on the display. | Nov 27 02:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So IPS, anti-glare, and 1920 x 1080. | Nov 27 02:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And from what I can tell, don't go lower than 250 nits. | Nov 27 02:28 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: for a laptop screen not going under 250nits makes sense. https://store.huion.com/products/kamvas-pro-13 You will find a low of drawing tablets with intergrated screens down at 220nits. | Nov 27 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-store.huion.com | Huion Official Store: Drawing Tablets, Pen Tablets, Pen Display, Led Light Pad | Nov 27 02:34 | |
| cybrNaut | AT&T, Dell, H&M, HP, Kellogg's, Mastercard, Microsoft, Pepsico, Prudential, Sony, US Bank, & Visa have made the "The 2020 World’s Most Ethical Companies" list (https://web.archive.org/web/20201123080655/https://www.worldsmostethicalcompanies.com/honorees/) -- I'm so disgustingly revolted. Some of those companies are ALEC members. | Nov 27 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Honorees 2020 – Ethisphere® Institute | Good. Smart. Business. Profit.® | Nov 27 02:34 | |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 27 02:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: distance to screen is a factor on how many nits are good/bad. | Nov 27 02:34 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the actual criterion was -- paying the "institute" the most? | Nov 27 02:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Next question if it was a fair race you have to scary to think who the worst are. | Nov 27 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And the world's most ethical companies are....drumroll.....a bag of patent trolls, big banks, and Microsoft. Oh what a surprise. | Nov 27 02:37 |
| MinceR | i think it would be hard to beat microshit | Nov 27 02:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For most ethical company ever? | Nov 27 02:38 |
| MinceR | for least ethical company | Nov 27 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With the EULA that's longer than the US Constitution detailing how their ad network can victimize you? | Nov 27 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I wonder how much bloatware the Thinkbook 15 gen2 comes with. | Nov 27 02:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://theyesmen.org/project/gilda its not really that hard to beat Microsoft. There are companies that truly do justify mass murder as part of doing business. | Nov 27 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theyesmen.org | Dow's Golden Skeleton | The Yes Men | Nov 27 02:41 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: At one point there was this freeware program that was like, a bloatware advisor. | Nov 27 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It went down all the shovelware that OEMs usually installed and advised you on which ones to get rid of. | Nov 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and what have those companies done to the competition and the industry they plagued? | Nov 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: nice | Nov 27 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Usually when someone was complaining their computer was slow, one of the things I did was put that on it and go down the list prying them out one by one. | Nov 27 02:42 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: This time, Lenovo offered to SELL me bloatware | Nov 27 02:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some program Lenovo Performance something-or-other. | Nov 27 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Each year you licensed it added $10 to the cost of the computer. | Nov 27 02:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 27 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How many people are going to do that? I mean, really? | Nov 27 02:43 |
| MinceR | probably lots | Nov 27 02:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ...and how many of them managed to nearly destroy an industry upon which most of our technology and society depends, and are still trying, and getting close to success? :> | Nov 27 02:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: pharmaceutical industry has a few in that camp. Same with in your chemical sprays and so on. | Nov 27 02:48 |
| oiaohm | These ones have directly killed people. | Nov 27 02:48 |
| oiaohm | Some of the worst have in fact being caught mercenaries to kill CEOs of competing companies in their markets. | Nov 27 02:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Please note I am not saying Microsoft good. But the worst of the worst if they enter the software industry it would be a true blood bath. | Nov 27 02:50 |
| MinceR | noted | Nov 27 02:51 |
| MinceR | it's not easy to compare killing individuals to destroying the future of the species :> | Nov 27 02:51 |
| MinceR | maybe it will happen the other way around, if the redmond mafia manages to get into self-driving cars and/or implants | Nov 27 02:54 |
| XRevan86 | https://downloadram.net/ is for free | Nov 27 03:03 |
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| XRevan86 | No need to pay for Lenovo Performance | Nov 27 03:04 |
| MinceR | so's http://downloadmoreghz.com/ | Nov 27 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-downloadmoreghz.com | Download More GHz - Free Processor Speed Upgrade! | Nov 27 03:04 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: What would such an application even do? | Nov 27 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably trim the ssd and clean up a bunch of junk Windows leaves everywhere. | Nov 27 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the back it's probably just a cmdlet to hit defrag /trim and hit all the buttons in cleanmgr. | Nov 27 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can get idiots to pay $50 for it as "performance" software from Lenovo. | Nov 27 03:07 |
| MinceR | unlock hardware features they locked down so they could squeeze extra money out of the user :> | Nov 27 03:09 |
| MinceR | or driver features | Nov 27 03:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why does everyone have trouble getting laptop fingerprint sensors to work with Linux. | Nov 27 03:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, does KDE even support those at all, or GNOME even? | Nov 27 03:14 |
| MinceR | dunno, i don't use biometric authentication, as it's mostly (or entirely) security theater | Nov 27 03:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | mkfs.btrfs | Nov 27 03:15 |
| MinceR | fingerprints are probably the worst | Nov 27 03:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also known as Windows Goodbye. | Nov 27 03:15 |
| MinceR | low amount of information and you leave them pretty much everything you touch | Nov 27 03:15 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 27 03:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: self driving electric cars could start harming the incomes of some of the worst in the oil industry that might then see the more interested in companies like Microsoft. | Nov 27 03:16 |
| oiaohm | So the blood bath may truly come at some point from out of the shadows where it normally gets ingored. | Nov 27 03:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ThinkBook 14 Gen 2 ITL/15 Gen 2 ITL systems | Nov 27 03:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lenovo certified for Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. | Nov 27 03:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it sure beats a kick in the ass, as my dad would say. | Nov 27 03:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Figure they really have changed? | Nov 27 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, it's nice that they give a recommended distribution that should work and don't do anything to stop you. That's a step in the right direction. | Nov 27 03:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I assume that since they don't mention Intel Tiger Lake or AMD Ryzen that they mean either way... | Nov 27 03:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lenovo Certified usually does mean everything, hardware, should work. So if it has a fingerprint sensor and they say Ubuntu 20.04.... | Nov 27 03:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's pretty perverse that they run their best deals on the ones with Windows and then leave it to the customer to figure out how to get rid of it. | Nov 27 03:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the only argument for GNOME is that's the configuration with 5 years of support from Canonical. | Nov 27 03:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The other LTS releases get 3. | Nov 27 03:28 |
| MinceR | 5 years of "gee, we don't know. go ask IBM"? :> | Nov 27 03:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Somewhere along the way, Microsoft changed AllowTelemetry to treat "0" or "Security only" as "1" or the Basic level, on all SKUs except Enterprise, Education, and IoT. | Nov 27 03:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that registry bit to disable telemetry actually only sets it to Basic on S, Home, and Professional. | Nov 27 03:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems you actually have to go disable the Telemetry service itself to turn it off. | Nov 27 03:45 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR destroying the future of the species << https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster pharmaceutical industry and chemical companies when you start digging they have made many attempts at ending the future of at least some of our species | Nov 27 04:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bhopal disaster - Wikipedia | Nov 27 04:48 | |
| oiaohm | Microsoft is not good. But the worst are directly linkable to deaths and indirectly doing stuff to kill a lot more. | Nov 27 04:49 |
| oiaohm | Of course Bill Gates has tried to get into some of those industries | Nov 27 04:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their strategy to "kill" Linux this time seems to be dumping Windows 10. | Nov 27 04:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like literal dumping. Like, if they were a country they'd be taken to the WTO for countervailing. | Nov 27 04:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe. I remember the panic in the US, especially Indiana, when we were losing our television manufacturing industry to the Chinese. | Nov 27 04:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They undercut you by selling at a loss, propped up by the government in that case. | Nov 27 04:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And that's what Microsoft is doing. Windows has turned into a loss leader and they get money like Facebook does. | Nov 27 04:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: On hotels, the Candlewood Suites was very nice. | Nov 27 05:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was a guy who had lived there for like 5 years they said. | Nov 27 05:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But he was one of those rich eccentric types, and if I had millions of dollars, being eccentric and living in a nice hotel would probably be something I'd do. | Nov 27 05:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/11/vivaldi-browser-integrated-email-client | Nov 27 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has a Built-in Email Client - OMG! Ubuntu! | Nov 27 07:27 | |
| schestowitz | proprietary | Nov 27 07:47 |
| schestowitz | cybrNaut: I remember those PR stunts | Nov 27 07:56 |
| schestowitz | "Trump for blacks" | Nov 27 07:57 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft most ethical" | Nov 27 07:57 |
| CrystalMath | idk about Brave browser though | Nov 27 07:58 |
| CrystalMath | is it good? | Nov 27 07:58 |
| CrystalMath | i keep wondering about it | Nov 27 07:58 |
| vZS1 | Biometric authentication belongs in the films. That's where it should stay. | Nov 27 08:06 |
| schestowitz | but what about smart authentication with HEY HI? | Nov 27 08:07 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: I tried accessing Twitter on Privacy Browser: "No longer support this browser". | Nov 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz | I know | Nov 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Nov 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Dec 15 | Nov 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz | they cut us all off | Nov 27 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Those who don't access it with JavaScript | Nov 27 08:07 |
| CrystalMath | huh? | Nov 27 08:08 |
| schestowitz | it has been possible all this time | Nov 27 08:08 |
| CrystalMath | twitter? | Nov 27 08:08 |
| CrystalMath | or what? | Nov 27 08:08 |
| schestowitz | and that's why RMS told me (in person) he didn't completely object to Twitter | Nov 27 08:08 |
| schestowitz | The whole of Twitter will cease to work | Nov 27 08:08 |
| schestowitz | in 17 days | Nov 27 08:08 |
| vZS1 | Many websites require an "approved" browser | Nov 27 08:08 |
| CrystalMath | what about nitter? | Nov 27 08:08 |
| schestowitz | the "legacy" UI retired | Nov 27 08:08 |
| schestowitz | nitter is read-only | Nov 27 08:09 |
| CrystalMath | vZS1: i know! i have to make ELinks lie that it's firefox | Nov 27 08:09 |
| vZS1 | YouTube (for sign in), Discord, etc. | Nov 27 08:09 |
| CrystalMath | there's also a command line twitter posting program | Nov 27 08:09 |
| schestowitz | I lie to Twitter about my browser also | Nov 27 08:09 |
| schestowitz | otherwise they try running JS | Nov 27 08:09 |
| CrystalMath | ttytter or something | Nov 27 08:09 |
| schestowitz | maybe they'll block that to | Nov 27 08:09 |
| schestowitz | *too | Nov 27 08:09 |
| vZS1 | All have the same list of "approved": IE, Edge, Chrome, Firefox, Opera. | Nov 27 08:09 |
| schestowitz | those companies are not reliable, they retired third party APIs in August 2018 | Nov 27 08:10 |
| vZS1 | So there's basically the list of spyware | Nov 27 08:10 |
| vZS1 | Good to know which browsers to avoid | Nov 27 08:10 |
| schestowitz | social control media is bad in general | Nov 27 08:10 |
| CrystalMath | it uses the API schestowitz | Nov 27 08:10 |
| vZS1 | They make it so easy | Nov 27 08:10 |
| schestowitz | and lots of it requires JS now | Nov 27 08:10 |
| schestowitz | strictly even | Nov 27 08:10 |
| vZS1 | I don't use it so I wouldn't know | Nov 27 08:10 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: still? for how much longer? | Nov 27 08:11 |
| CrystalMath | well idk | Nov 27 08:11 |
| CrystalMath | is twitter getting rid of the API? | Nov 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | I post [sic] to twitter through diaspora -- it exports everything to Twitter | Nov 27 08:11 |
| vZS1 | I've been using Palemoon, the last few days. I like it. I've been distributing the GNU/Linux builds on IPFS. | Nov 27 08:11 |
| CrystalMath | tbh it's easier to write a client for modern websites | Nov 27 08:11 |
| CrystalMath | stuff like slashdot is much harder :/ | Nov 27 08:11 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: they cut off many things 27 months ago | Nov 27 08:12 |
| schestowitz | inc. a bot we used here to syndicate in IRC in real time | Nov 27 08:12 |
| CrystalMath | modern websites are all nearly identical | Nov 27 08:12 |
| schestowitz | (particular accounts) | Nov 27 08:12 |
| vZS1 | Can people comment on diaspora? | Nov 27 08:12 |
| schestowitz | yes | Nov 27 08:12 |
| schestowitz | many still do | Nov 27 08:12 |
| vZS1 | I've been thinking about a user-friendly way of implementing comments for stuff I post on the internet. Diaspora might work | Nov 27 08:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe | Nov 27 08:13 |
| schestowitz | I can't say that network is thriving | Nov 27 08:13 |
| schestowitz | it's still going, but not growing much | Nov 27 08:13 |
| schestowitz | tbh, we need to get back to 2003 | Nov 27 08:13 |
| vZS1 | And what is that? | Nov 27 08:13 |
| schestowitz | blogs, not by every idiot with qanon crap either | Nov 27 08:14 |
| vZS1 | Ah | Nov 27 08:14 |
| CrystalMath | there were ridiculous blogs in 2003 | Nov 27 08:14 |
| CrystalMath | like, some guy selling immortality rings | Nov 27 08:14 |
| CrystalMath | that stop aging | Nov 27 08:14 |
| vZS1 | Yeah. That was my idea | Nov 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | people would not read these | Nov 27 08:14 |
| vZS1 | I'll just stick to the blog idea | Nov 27 08:14 |
| CrystalMath | tons of people found it | Nov 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | in social control media you can see everybody | Nov 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | cranks also | Nov 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | with blogs... just don't subscribe to cranks' RSS | Nov 27 08:15 |
| vZS1 | Yep | Nov 27 08:15 |
| CrystalMath | my first visits to the internet as a kid immediately exposed me to conspiracy theroies | Nov 27 08:15 |
| CrystalMath | *theories | Nov 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | I used to follow about 100 blogs back then | Nov 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | now a lot of those blogs are just dead | Nov 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | and many news sites don't do RSS | Nov 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | (or not properly | Nov 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | they're just like... | Nov 27 08:15 |
| CrystalMath | you'll never stop crazy | Nov 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | following our Saudi-owned Twitter account | Nov 27 08:15 |
| schestowitz | or our ZUckerberg-filtered "Facebook page" | Nov 27 08:16 |
| CrystalMath | as i like to say, you can't really hope to make a significant change, after all, inertia makes the world go round | Nov 27 08:16 |
| schestowitz | it can change | Nov 27 08:16 |
| CrystalMath | sure, you can convince me | Nov 27 08:17 |
| CrystalMath | i have some mastodon account somewhere | Nov 27 08:17 |
| CrystalMath | that i never use | Nov 27 08:17 |
| schestowitz | more and more people now access our site as plain text | Nov 27 08:17 |
| schestowitz | 18,000+ in past 5 days | Nov 27 08:17 |
| schestowitz | I just checked again, grepping apache logs | Nov 27 08:17 |
| schestowitz | mastodon has a censorship issue | Nov 27 08:18 |
| schestowitz | all social control media is like that | Nov 27 08:18 |
| schestowitz | because you syndicate across network | Nov 27 08:18 |
| schestowitz | and some people will block you for not agreeing with you | Nov 27 08:18 |
| schestowitz | in effect making you invisible to OTHER people | Nov 27 08:18 |
| schestowitz | with RSS feeds people are in better control | Nov 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | not "PLANETS" | Nov 27 08:19 |
| vZS1 | Yep | Nov 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | direct subscription | Nov 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | and nobody can cut that off | Nov 27 08:19 |
| vZS1 | RSS is freedom-respecting | Nov 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | you are directly connected to the IP address or domain names of people you follow | Nov 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | refreshing feeds means | Nov 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | cycle through X sites | Nov 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz | not go to site X, which then gets to decide who you can follow and see | Nov 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | more domains, but you have as many as people/sites you follow | Nov 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Twitter/FB= mitm | Nov 27 08:20 |
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| vZS1 | I came across something called Jitsi, yesterday | Nov 27 08:26 |
| vZS1 | Looked pretty impressive. Seems like a self-hosted Discord alternative | Nov 27 08:27 |
| vZS1 | But I haven't read into it deeply. Too heavy for my tastes | Nov 27 08:29 |
| vZS1 | And probably some sort of privacy issues. They always have a catch | Nov 27 08:29 |
| vZS1 | I'm setting up a test IRC server with ngircd. It looks pretty portable. | Nov 27 08:39 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: what's your opinion on Brave? | Nov 27 08:39 |
| CrystalMath | actually i need to sleep | Nov 27 08:39 |
| schestowitz | brave might be OK | Nov 27 08:41 |
| schestowitz | but many red flags | Nov 27 08:41 |
| vZS1 | Look into Palemoon | Nov 27 08:41 |
| vZS1 | It's a pretty good browser | Nov 27 08:41 |
| vZS1 | I've been using it the last couple of days | Nov 27 08:41 |
| vZS1 | The founder also seems pretty devoted to software freedom | Nov 27 08:43 |
| vZS1 | No Shithub | Nov 27 08:43 |
| schestowitz | unlike waterfox | Nov 27 08:43 |
| vZS1 | Palemoon uses Gitea | Nov 27 08:43 |
| vZS1 | It's also very snappy | Nov 27 08:44 |
| vZS1 | And easy to set up. Binaries available | Nov 27 08:44 |
| vZS1 | I dislike package managers | Nov 27 08:44 |
| vZS1 | So that's a plus for me | Nov 27 08:45 |
| CrystalMath | i hate palemoon | Nov 27 08:56 |
| CrystalMath | its creator puts in spyware | Nov 27 08:56 |
| CrystalMath | and is generally a horrible person | Nov 27 08:56 |
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| vZS1 | Right now, a lot of software is too difficult to build from source. This problem really needs to be solved | Nov 27 09:01 |
| vZS1 | And we can't rely on devs to do it for users | Nov 27 09:01 |
| vZS1 | They're going to use whatever they feel like | Nov 27 09:01 |
| schestowitz | use falkon | Nov 27 09:03 |
| schestowitz | no hassle when it comes to most things, just wished it used gecko too | Nov 27 09:03 |
| vZS1 | I'm doing alright with Palemoon rn | Nov 27 09:03 |
| vZS1 | If I need to switch, I'll give Falkon a shot. | Nov 27 09:04 |
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| vZS1 | I don't think POSIX has anything in it about build systems. GNU either | Nov 27 09:06 |
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| vZS1 | As in, making it easy for the user to build software from source code | Nov 27 09:07 |
| CrystalMath | going to sleep | Nov 27 09:07 |
| vZS1 | Because make, autoconf, pkg-config, etc sure aren't user-friendly | Nov 27 09:07 |
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| vZS1 | Relying on other bodies to build software is one of the main sources of abusing a user's freedom | Nov 27 09:10 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: my associate suggested automating the ipfs stuff | Nov 27 09:10 |
| schestowitz | and IRC also | Nov 27 09:10 |
| schestowitz | for now I hold off | Nov 27 09:10 |
| schestowitz | as I want to double check a bunch of things | Nov 27 09:10 |
| schestowitz | like upload sizes | Nov 27 09:10 |
| schestowitz | comparing the transfer sizes | Nov 27 09:10 |
| schestowitz | output files, in various editors | Nov 27 09:10 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: but in the long run, yes, we can automate the checks too and stop changing code | Nov 27 09:11 |
| vZS1 | The only thing I haven't automated for the IPFS bot is the setup | Nov 27 09:11 |
| vZS1 | I can write a shell script for that. | Nov 27 09:11 |
| schestowitz | or manifest | Nov 27 09:11 |
| schestowitz | though I don't fancy the latter, those depend on large frameworks | Nov 27 09:12 |
| vZS1 | What do you mean by manifest? | Nov 27 09:12 |
| schestowitz | which can break with new versions | Nov 27 09:12 |
| schestowitz | things like puppet | Nov 27 09:12 |
| vZS1 | I dislike those | Nov 27 09:12 |
| schestowitz | building and maintaining based on a spec | Nov 27 09:12 |
| schestowitz | IBM has its own | Nov 27 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat bough Ansible | Nov 27 09:12 |
| schestowitz | then IBM nicked Red Hat | Nov 27 09:12 |
| vZS1 | There's too much third-party dependencies | Nov 27 09:12 |
| schestowitz | so the "underdog" became IBM | Nov 27 09:12 |
| vZS1 | A shell script is good enough | Nov 27 09:12 |
| schestowitz | I never used chef | Nov 27 09:12 |
| vZS1 | I've used Ansible. But that wasn't by choice | Nov 27 09:13 |
| vZS1 | They are all cost-saving tools | Nov 27 09:13 |
| vZS1 | Not real solutions | Nov 27 09:13 |
| vZS1 | So they can just replace the current person with someone else easily. | Nov 27 09:14 |
| vZS1 | Pretty big cargo cult around those tools | Nov 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: https://www.happyassassin.net/posts/2016/06/16/on-snappy-and-flatpak-business-as-usual-in-the-canonical-propaganda-department/ | Nov 27 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.happyassassin.net | On Snappy and Flatpak: business as usual in the Canonical propaganda department | AdamW on Linux and more | Nov 27 09:18 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: I see ansible used on single machine/vm setups | Nov 27 09:19 |
| vZS1 | It actually makes it harder for projects as well. Because think of all the time people need to spend too learn those tools. | Nov 27 09:19 |
| schestowitz | think it's overused | Nov 27 09:19 |
| schestowitz | if you don't deploy to like hundreds of nodes | Nov 27 09:19 |
| schestowitz | or to manage accounts... for like 3 people | Nov 27 09:19 |
| schestowitz | not thousands | Nov 27 09:19 |
| schestowitz | you could copy across public keys for less time than it would take to configure ansible or similar | Nov 27 09:20 |
| vZS1 | You can run SSH in parallel across thousands of nodes a lot better with a lot less | Nov 27 09:20 |
| vZS1 | I've done it multiple times with many programming languages. Just used the ones everyone on the team is familiar with | Nov 27 09:21 |
| vZS1 | You don't get forced into workflows you don't need nor want | Nov 27 09:21 |
| schestowitz | old: | Nov 27 09:22 |
| schestowitz | x https://blog.pi-top.com/join-us-at-.net-conf-2020 | Nov 27 09:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.pi-top.com | Join us at .NET Conf 2020! | Nov 27 09:22 | |
| schestowitz | # >:( | Nov 27 09:22 |
| vZS1 | I've done more system automation than most people | Nov 27 09:23 |
| schestowitz | if it's reproducible easily, ok | Nov 27 09:23 |
| vZS1 | The main thing I've learned over time is to keep things dynamic. Use DRY and stuff like command substitution for paths. | Nov 27 09:23 |
| schestowitz | I have I won't have to reconfigure my main laptop for a looong time to come | Nov 27 09:24 |
| schestowitz | as it's a bit of a pain | Nov 27 09:24 |
| schestowitz | lots of custom code built into it | Nov 27 09:25 |
| vZS1 | How much of that is version controlled? | Nov 27 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: will we have time to work on the site this weekend? also, deadline for moving, if any? | Nov 27 09:25 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: not at all | Nov 27 09:25 |
| schestowitz | the version control is "old backups" | Nov 27 09:25 |
| vZS1 | That's probably why it's so painful | Nov 27 09:25 |
| vZS1 | Make Git repos for all the important directories with the custom scripts and config files | Nov 27 09:26 |
| vZS1 | Crontabs, systemd files, etc | Nov 27 09:26 |
| vZS1 | Then pull them all into a superrepo as submodules | Nov 27 09:27 |
| vZS1 | You can then just redeploy them via that repo, later | Nov 27 09:27 |
| vZS1 | If you want, I can help you out with it some time | Nov 27 09:27 |
| vZS1 | You can use Git hooks to handle the tricky automation for you | Nov 27 09:28 |
| schestowitz | you assume I do this often | Nov 27 09:28 |
| schestowitz | if you move every 7 years, then gnu/linux changes too much | Nov 27 09:29 |
| schestowitz | for those things to still work | Nov 27 09:29 |
| schestowitz | 7 years ago there was no systemd in distros I used | Nov 27 09:29 |
| vZS1 | It's more for organising | Nov 27 09:29 |
| vZS1 | And keeping track of things | Nov 27 09:29 |
| schestowitz | and usually programs I used 7 years ago I'd no longer use... or scripts | Nov 27 09:30 |
| vZS1 | You've basically got a snowflake machine atm | Nov 27 09:30 |
| vZS1 | Which you can't reproduce | Nov 27 09:30 |
| schestowitz | I can | Nov 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz | homedir | Nov 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz | then add the missing bits of software | Nov 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz | apt-get or similar | Nov 27 09:31 |
| schestowitz | maybe trickier for some perl modules etc. | Nov 27 09:31 |
| vZS1 | It's still good to keep the important stuff under VCS | Nov 27 09:32 |
| vZS1 | And back up the VCS bits | Nov 27 09:32 |
| schestowitz | if | Nov 27 09:32 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #TUXEDOComputers Enables Full Linux Support on the Intel-TongFang QC7 Gaming Laptop • sǝuıɥɔɐɯ xnʇ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144808 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ddf9dbf0-43a3-4f91-a141-06832969db0d] | Nov 27 09:45 | |
| schestowitz | >> The latest Daily Links has a bunch of posts from EPO and Team UPC about it. | Nov 27 09:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 27 09:53 |
| schestowitz | > I just see a lot of sites I tend to steer away from. Looking at the | Nov 27 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > FFII site, which I trust along with TR, I see this warning from yesterday: | Nov 27 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 27 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > https://ffii.org/open-letter-to-the-german-greens-on-upc-and-software-patents-dont-betray-your-voters-and-your-promises-or-you-will-regret-it/ | Nov 27 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 27 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > I guess there will be a need for a big fight leading up to December 18? | Nov 27 09:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffii.org | Open Letter to the German Greens on UPC and software patents: don’t betray your voters and your promises, or you will regret it | FFII | Nov 27 09:54 | |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 27 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > Whenever sw patents are brought up on technical forums, there is often | Nov 27 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > little response. I think what is needed at the moment is a short, clear | Nov 27 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > call to action. | Nov 27 09:54 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: MuditaOS: A Beautiful and Minimal Open Source Mobile Operating System • sǝuıɥɔɐɯ xnʇ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144809 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5fe06d8e-7286-4a5b-a63c-81a12b606d75] | Nov 27 10:04 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Comparing the similarities and differences between inner source and open source https://opensource.com/article/20/11/inner-source #innersource is an attack on #freesw http://techrights.org/2020/05/23/innersource-commons-isc-president-a-giveaway/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/8c360a98-f039-4299-aeec-edb09c40c3ca] | Nov 27 10:07 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Don’t fall for #innersource http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144811 it’s a #microsoft connected scam and like #github it’s an ATTACK on #freesw http://techrights.org/2020/05/23/innersource-commons-isc-president-a-giveaway/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/1fff4e53-a254-4a8d-9b12-720b4444329b] | Nov 27 10:11 | |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: I forwarded TR stuff to a local charity. I usually help them out with information about these things. | Nov 27 10:34 |
| vZS1 | The /?stories, /txt, and /feed/, to be precise. | Nov 27 10:34 |
| vZS1 | I'll see what I can do about getting more people aware of TR, charities in particular. | Nov 27 10:37 |
| vZS1 | I've got quite a few contacts in the sector | Nov 27 10:37 |
| vZS1 | But I've been hung up with engineering lately, so syndication kind of fell behind | Nov 27 10:37 |
| vZS1 | That piece I was going to do on E2E encryption should be with you soon. | Nov 27 10:40 |
| vZS1 | I got caught up with a lot of other stuff so it kind of fell behind. | Nov 27 10:40 |
| vZS1 | Starting December, I won't be around very much for a few months so I'll try to tidy up all the IPFS stuff for you as well, before that. | Nov 27 10:44 |
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| schestowitz | [10:40] <vZS1> That piece I was going to do on E2E encryption should be with you soon. | Nov 27 11:42 |
| schestowitz | thanks, I have that in my notes | Nov 27 11:42 |
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| schestowitz | [11:42] <schestowitz> [10:40] <vZS1> That piece I was going to do on E2E encryption should be with you soon. | Nov 27 11:43 |
| schestowitz | [11:42] <schestowitz> thanks, I have that in my notes | Nov 27 11:43 |
| schestowitz | we could use more expertise from more people | Nov 27 11:43 |
| schestowitz | my comfort zone for covering things is as limited as everybody's, usually freesw, swpats and general patent policies | Nov 27 11:44 |
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| smnthermes | > [05:56:31] CrystalMath: i hate palemoon | Nov 27 12:45 |
| smnthermes | > [05:56:36] CrystalMath: its creator puts in spyware | Nov 27 12:45 |
| smnthermes | > [05:56:43] CrystalMath: and is generally a horrible person | Nov 27 12:45 |
| smnthermes | There's also WebBrowser: https://git.nuegia.net/webbrowser.git/ | Nov 27 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.nuegia.net | webbrowser.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository. | Nov 27 12:45 | |
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| chovy | hi | Nov 27 12:48 |
| schestowitz | hi | Nov 27 12:49 |
| chovy | how was everyone's thanksgiving | Nov 27 12:49 |
| schestowitz | we don't ahve it here >:| | Nov 27 12:49 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New #Systemd 247 Is Out For #Linux Operating System As Major Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144812 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f315d364-f429-4594-a56f-03ce9432fabd] | Nov 27 13:13 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 27/11/2020: Systemd 247 and Cockpit 233 • 🆃🅴🅲🅷🆁🅸🅶🅷🆃🆂 ☞ http://techrights.org/2020/11/27/cockpit-233/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/a76b0a74-491f-4577-8612-67aa61a8739b] | Nov 27 13:31 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in #Techrights • sǝuıɥɔɐɯ xnʇ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144817 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7e6a9f02-3b18-4fef-9f2b-0243154a151a] | Nov 27 13:35 | |
| MinceR | 27 094143 < vZS1> Look into Palemoon | Nov 27 14:05 |
| MinceR | it blocks at least one extension because manchild doesn't happen to like it | Nov 27 14:05 |
| MinceR | they also stopped it from being provided for openbsd | Nov 27 14:06 |
| MinceR | (it being palemoon) | Nov 27 14:07 |
| vZS1 | MinceR: please elaborate | Nov 27 14:12 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: I'm sending you a draft by email. | Nov 27 14:14 |
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| MinceR | vZS1: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=16504 | Nov 27 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.palemoon.org | AdNauseam extension blocked - Pale Moon forum | Nov 27 14:16 | |
| MinceR | vZS1: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86 | Nov 27 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pale Moon Official Branding Violation · Issue #86 · jasperla/openbsd-wip · GitHub | Nov 27 14:16 | |
| vZS1 | The extension can be enabled though | Nov 27 14:25 |
| vZS1 | It's more an inconvenience than anything else. | Nov 27 14:26 |
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| MinceR | it is certainly not "your browser, your way" | Nov 27 14:32 |
| MinceR | and certainly not acceptable for someone who moved away from failfox for a similar reason | Nov 27 14:32 |
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| vZS1 | That's true | Nov 27 14:35 |
| vZS1 | I'm not disagreeing with you | Nov 27 14:35 |
| vZS1 | I had a look at the GH thread | Nov 27 14:35 |
| vZS1 | That's was totally uncalled for | Nov 27 14:35 |
| vZS1 | That* | Nov 27 14:36 |
| vZS1 | Essentially bullying people instead of being patient. Bullying people that did a lot of work, no less. | Nov 27 14:36 |
| vZS1 | Welp time to remove my install and IPFS pins | Nov 27 14:37 |
| MinceR | not only that, but bullying people with the same trademark policy bullshit mozilla used to make failfox nonfree | Nov 27 14:38 |
| MinceR | it's like these people just wanted to be another mozilla, but couldn't even start with their own code | Nov 27 14:39 |
| schestowitz | ha | Nov 27 14:42 |
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| schestowitz | [14:05] <MinceR> it blocks at least one extension because manchild doesn't happen to like it | Nov 27 14:43 |
| schestowitz | pales | Nov 27 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: will check mail | Nov 27 14:51 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: I just kept it in plaintext | Nov 27 14:52 |
| schestowitz | that's ok | Nov 27 14:52 |
| schestowitz | we have our formatting style | Nov 27 14:52 |
| schestowitz | "text is king" | Nov 27 14:52 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Candy: XScreenSaver – Framework and collection of screensavers • sǝuıɥɔɐɯ xnʇ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144818 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4d4c9ffa-d39a-4428-acda-a2adc0ed6e6e] | Nov 27 14:53 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Original Jolla Phone turns 7 today • sǝuıɥɔɐɯ xnʇ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144819 [https://pleroma.site/objects/10ba72b7-9587-4355-9e3c-2d0e384ec494] | Nov 27 15:06 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Xubuntu 20.10 Groovy Gorilla review • sǝuıɥɔɐɯ xnʇ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144820 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5cb30a28-72b0-47fc-a9b6-20a465daa492] | Nov 27 15:10 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20081853 | Nov 27 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4832419) | Nov 27 15:25 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz I got an answer about Ubuntu on Certified devices from their room. | Nov 27 15:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say it should detect a certified device and use the Linux OEM kernel in the background and the user shouldn't even notice. | Nov 27 15:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I bumped my Kubuntu install on the Yoga 900 to that kernel and it runs fine. | Nov 27 15:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.04-Certified-OEM-Exp | Nov 27 15:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Aims To Enhance The Certified OEM Experience From Its Installer - Phoronix | Nov 27 15:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder if there's a way to force it to boot and install this kernel if it doesn't autodetect. | Nov 27 15:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I know there's a daily build of the LTS floating around that just hasn't been thoroughly tested. | Nov 27 15:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I might pull that to install from if nothing else. | Nov 27 15:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz According to Canonical there's an Ubuntu SKU of the ThinkBook gen 2 series coming as a preinstall. | Nov 27 15:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Certified version so far is Intel Tiger Lake, not the Ryzen, and there is going to be an option that's not available yet with an Nvidia chipset. | Nov 27 15:33 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20080663 | Nov 27 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4807339) | Nov 27 15:36 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • sǝuıɥɔɐɯ xnʇ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144821 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4824d1bd-6186-41fe-a2ea-c8f27debf98c] | Nov 27 15:52 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: GDevelop, Itch, Gravity in Space and OBS Studio • sǝuıɥɔɐɯ xnʇ ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144822 [https://pleroma.site/objects/10529327-f960-484a-858a-2336d4337326] | Nov 27 15:54 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: will edit and publish if OK with you | Nov 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz | will add images etc. | Nov 27 16:00 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: go for it | Nov 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz | BTW, Thunderbird makes it SUPPPPER difficult | Nov 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz | to open your messages | Nov 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz | I can explain more | Nov 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz | as it's the stuff you're in | Nov 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz | all your messages are a three-step hoop-jumping exercise | Nov 27 16:01 |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/15/a491be330b314cc9.jpg | Nov 27 16:01 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you must be THIS tall to ride | Nov 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz | otherwise NO! | Nov 27 16:02 |
| MinceR | "you must be 18 or older to ride" | Nov 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz | That's what they said | Nov 27 16:03 |
| vZS1 | Just use the GPG CLI | Nov 27 16:03 |
| MinceR | that's what Duke Nukem said, afaik, and in the context you're thinking of :> | Nov 27 16:03 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: that is what I di | Nov 27 16:04 |
| schestowitz | *do | Nov 27 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Duke had sexual eastern eggs, MinceR | Nov 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz | *easter | Nov 27 16:05 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: picking some images... https://www.freeimages.com/search/locks | Nov 27 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free locks Images, Pictures, and Royalty-Free Stock Photos - FreeImages.com | Nov 27 16:05 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 27 16:06 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: many typos | Nov 27 16:11 |
| schestowitz | dozens picked up spellchecker already | Nov 27 16:11 |
| schestowitz | just under a dozen actually | Nov 27 16:12 |
| schestowitz | at least we catch them | Nov 27 16:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: do you still play doom and duke nukem? | Nov 27 16:12 |
| vZS1 | I don't doubt it | Nov 27 16:13 |
| schestowitz | jus' sayin' | Nov 27 16:14 |
| schestowitz | the substance is what counts though | Nov 27 16:14 |
| schestowitz | the knowledge of people | Nov 27 16:14 |
| schestowitz | too many spammy sites out there | Nov 27 16:14 |
| schestowitz | relaying "prepared" PR | Nov 27 16:14 |
| schestowitz | we have insiders | Nov 27 16:14 |
| schestowitz | whistleblowers | Nov 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: yes | Nov 27 16:14 |
| schestowitz | sometimes specialists (I specialise in very few topics myself) | Nov 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | not exclusively, of course :> | Nov 27 16:15 |
| schestowitz | I stopped playing games | Nov 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz | also stopped cultivating my art works | Nov 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I found games rather addictive | Nov 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz | to the point of being able to play them all day long, even dream about them sometimes | Nov 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Alex Oliva had the same observation re games he had played | Nov 27 16:17 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 27 16:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It seems that Lenovo is quietly working with Ubuntu to certify at least the majority of their laptops. | Nov 27 16:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They probably won't require a special OEM kernel forever. A lot of that is probably just newer kernel for hardware support and maybe a new staging driver here and there. | Nov 27 16:25 |
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| vZS1 | I have enough guilt to stop me from doing that with entertainment | Nov 27 16:35 |
| vZS1 | Have the opposite problem. Struggle to relax | Nov 27 16:36 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: lenovo loves lenovo | Nov 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | more people love gnu/linux | Nov 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | thus, lenovo loves what makes more people buy their crap | Nov 27 16:38 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: http://techrights.org/2020/11/27/encrypt-with-e2ee-in-depth-article/ | Nov 27 16:48 |
| schestowitz | maybe you can find uncaught typos | Nov 27 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guarding Your Privacy With E2EE: Primer | Techrights | Nov 27 16:48 | |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/15/8898f3051a14686b.jpg | Nov 27 17:22 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: what's that? | Nov 27 17:26 |
| MinceR | a road in a forest | Nov 27 17:26 |
| MinceR | with fog | Nov 27 17:26 |
| CrystalMath | honestly that fog reminds me of a time when i got lost while walking outside of town | Nov 27 17:26 |
| CrystalMath | you know i eschew all technology, so | Nov 27 17:27 |
| CrystalMath | i was in real trouble | Nov 27 17:27 |
| CrystalMath | especially when i was then attacked by stray/wild dogs | Nov 27 17:28 |
| MinceR | i know you don't eschew all technology | Nov 27 17:28 |
| CrystalMath | yeah but i have nothing portable | Nov 27 17:28 |
| CrystalMath | that could give me a map | Nov 27 17:28 |
| CrystalMath | i didn't even have my walkman then, not that it would help at all | Nov 27 17:29 |
| CrystalMath | except provide some background music for that video game situation i was in | Nov 27 17:29 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 27 17:29 |
| CrystalMath | it was like a video game, only real | Nov 27 17:29 |
| CrystalMath | gosh how the hell did i get out of that | Nov 27 17:29 |
| CrystalMath | i think i have PTSD though, images remind me of it :( | Nov 27 17:29 |
| MinceR | sad | Nov 27 17:29 |
| MinceR | i enjoy fog | Nov 27 17:29 |
| CrystalMath | i don't enjoy being chased by wild pitbulls | Nov 27 17:30 |
| CrystalMath | through the fog | Nov 27 17:30 |
| CrystalMath | or, idk, it was sorta fun if i think about it, especially since i was unharmed | Nov 27 17:30 |
| CrystalMath | but it was too much fun :P | Nov 27 17:30 |
| MinceR | that's the dogs' fault, not the fog's | Nov 27 17:32 |
| CrystalMath | yeah, different first letter | Nov 27 17:33 |
| MinceR | (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/14/047b7517502791a6.mp4 | Nov 27 17:37 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20080539 | Nov 27 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4803934) | Nov 27 18:03 | |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: looks like you caught all the remaining typos. | Nov 27 18:28 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Nov 27 18:41 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/14/0e5d7fa1e51b6f4b.jpg | Nov 27 18:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The accessories on Lenovo's site are a bit overpriced, but if I don't use the rewards they just expire. | Nov 27 20:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I might as well get my laptop accessories there up to whatever the store credit works out to. | Nov 27 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/ex-intel-engineer-apple-turned-away-from-intel-over-skylake-cpu-bugs/ | Nov 27 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ex-Intel engineer: Apple turned away from Intel over Skylake CPU bugs | ZDNet | Nov 27 20:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "The quality assurance in SkyLake was abnormally bad," says former Intel engineer François Piednoël. | Nov 27 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "We were getting way too much citing for little things, and basically Apple became the number-one filer of problems with the architecture. And that went really, really bad. When your customer starts finding almost as much bugs as you found yourself, you're not leading into the right place. | Nov 27 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it was more like the last straw. | Nov 27 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Intel is getting the issues addressed finally, but Apple can just create its own specs and probably it works out cheaper for them. | Nov 27 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They never did put Intel in the iPad or iPhone because Intel has never hit a point where they've been efficient enough on performance per watt or instructions per clock cycle to put in a mobile device. They're better than they used to be, but I just don't see x86 as a mobile platform for tablets and phones. | Nov 27 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I also have a feeling that there will be layoffs at Apple due to this. | Nov 27 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They no longer need the extra people to deal with supporting the x86 products with software and development tools. | Nov 27 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | x86 isn't a terrible architecture, it's just not the best. | Nov 27 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just don't want to invest in a Mac because it's a rapidly depreciating asset which has almost no backwards compatibility with itself, and apps are now meant to be delivered through a store where entire categories of software are forbidden and Apple leans hard on developers not go give away any software for free. | Nov 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The main reason I've never tried to get off of x86 is because it's the most battle tested architecture out there with the widest selection of affordable computers, and I can run Windows and Steam stuff through Wine. | Nov 27 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those Pinebooks turned out to be massively non-Free, even worse than any x86 system I've owned. | Nov 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So bad that they can't run with the normal and supported Debian kernel. They have to have some kernel that time forgot that's been hacked to death with binary-only modules. | Nov 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't get you Freedom, it moves you further away with a badly supported mess to boot. | Nov 27 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | [20:50] <DaemonFC[m]> Those Pinebooks turned out to be massively non-Free, even worse than any x86 system I've owned. | Nov 27 21:28 |
| schestowitz | you bought one? | Nov 27 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | no | Nov 27 21:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Read reviews. | Nov 27 21:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Guy mentioned it was stuck on a 2 year old kernel. | Nov 27 21:44 |
| schestowitz | since when do you care about free? | Nov 27 21:48 |
| schestowitz | you use and celebrate proprietary web browsers | Nov 27 21:48 |
| schestowitz | and you buy things with Windows on them | Nov 27 21:48 |
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| psydroid | Pinebook should be supported by the mainline kernel now, as that is what I'm running on my SBC | Nov 27 21:51 |
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| psydroid | I would say that support is excellent now within the limits of the hardware itself | Nov 27 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: re https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1332307265358008323 | Nov 27 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Now von der Leyen cabinet does not seem to reply to my emails deposing the letter. Sent it via recomma… https://t.co/Chh7f2DaMD | Nov 27 22:04 | |
| schestowitz | publish proof of this | Nov 27 22:04 |
| schestowitz | as that itself can be an article | Nov 27 22:04 |
| schestowitz | about EC role | Nov 27 22:04 |
| schestowitz | aside from Breton's | Nov 27 22:04 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "and you buy things with Windows "> Well, they make you pay $300 more to have a Linux preload vs the same exact hardware that you can just put Ubuntu on yourself. | Nov 27 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Would you bust out $300 more for the laptop or just install Ubuntu yourself? | Nov 27 22:25 |
| schestowitz | straw man | Nov 27 22:25 |
| schestowitz | you waste far too much on useless hardware | Nov 27 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mind you that Microsoft is basically giving them Windows at this point because it's becoming the Android of desktop operating systems. | Nov 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | as I explained before | Nov 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | for $400 you can get a very neat laptop | Nov 27 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Where Google gives them a "free" OS and it just data mines the crap out of you. | Nov 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | with refurbishing, maybe no Windows | Nov 27 22:26 |
| schestowitz | again, Google=straw man | Nov 27 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have no idea what Microsoft is still doing with Windows. | Nov 27 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's turned from money maker to money pit on consumer hardware. | Nov 27 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The initial signs of them giving up trying to develop their own software was what happened to Edge. | Nov 27 22:27 |
| schestowitz | again, Google=straw man[22:26] <DaemonFC[m]> Where Google gives them a "free" OS and it just data mines the crap out of you. | Nov 27 22:27 |
| schestowitz | same as Windows | Nov 27 22:27 |
| schestowitz | that's the business model >> [22:27] <DaemonFC[m]> I have no idea what Microsoft is still doing with Windows. | Nov 27 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Google/Microsoft aren't a necessity | Nov 27 22:28 |
| schestowitz | so putting that as windows/chromeOS is wrong | Nov 27 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft is clearly pivoting towards Linux and Android. | Nov 27 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not in a good way. | Nov 27 22:28 |
| schestowitz | you could even do lots of stuff on a $70 rapi | Nov 27 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I would not be surprised if they did end up doing a consumer OS based on Linux. | Nov 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Windows is very long in the tooth and I'm sure difficult to maintain for them. | Nov 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not going to hold up well in the coming decade, much less decades. | Nov 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've gone from trying to hard sell their customers on Windows to trying to hard sell them to subscriptions for services as they use Linux, Android, or Chrome OS underneath. | Nov 27 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was obvious even at the time why they were desperately trying to hijack the ISO on office formats. | Nov 27 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they dictate what those are and implement them in ways where it's impossible for anyone else to be compatible, and change them and convert your old documents to the "new" version....it's the same as their old strategy only now they control the formats and the access to the software, because a stupid office program isn't running on your computer anymore. | Nov 27 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's why LibreOffice is more important than ever. It's the only office suite that's mostly compatible and under a Free licenses. | Nov 27 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're well past throw a stone and you hit 20 people with an office program. | Nov 27 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead of donating the IBM Lotus code to The Document Foundation, IBM gave it to the Apache Foundation for god only knows what reason. | Nov 27 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which can't even apply security fixes to Apache OpenOffice, much less get a release out. | Nov 27 22:34 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The Apache Foundation really has no defensible reason to exist anymore. | Nov 27 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even their web server, people have mostly stopped using it. | Nov 27 22:35 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft outsourcer | Nov 27 22:35 |
| schestowitz | github | Nov 27 22:35 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/04/29/asf-prisoner-of-microsoft/ | Nov 27 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | After Killing the Independence of Apache Software Foundation (ASF) Microsoft Steals Its Soul, Too | Techrights | Nov 27 22:36 | |
| schestowitz | like Ariadne said (and I agree), apache f is where projects come to die | Nov 27 22:36 |
| schestowitz | and 'Linux' f is becoming the same | Nov 27 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apache's web server is losing about 1 percentage point of the server market per month now. | Nov 27 22:37 |
| schestowitz | we're 'open', we're stagnant, here! Have a pile of code | Nov 27 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's being Internet Explorer 6'd by nginx mostly. | Nov 27 22:37 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: maybe as front end | Nov 27 22:37 |
| schestowitz | but at the back end it might be apache | Nov 27 22:37 |
| schestowitz | with nginx at the front of it | Nov 27 22:37 |
| schestowitz | done setups like these before | Nov 27 22:37 |
| schestowitz | IIS it the interesting story | Nov 27 22:38 |
| schestowitz | it's dying fast this year | Nov 27 22:38 |
| schestowitz | corona finishes off windows in web servers | Nov 27 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Not sure if the new laptop will run Ubuntu quite right even with the Linux 5.6-OEM kernel. | Nov 27 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I see that stuff continues to land for Tiger Lake even now. | Nov 27 22:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But Lenovo certified this kernel, whatever that means. | Nov 27 22:38 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: i would say it is mostly related to the fact that you can deploy ASP.Net applications on Linux now (if they target .net core) | Nov 27 22:38 |
| schestowitz | do we have proof of it? | Nov 27 22:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose I could muddle through for a month or two until the Ubuntu 20.04.2 comes out with a Linux 5.9 HWE kernel. | Nov 27 22:39 |
| Ariadne | proof of which | Nov 27 22:39 |
| schestowitz | that this is the cause | Nov 27 22:39 |
| schestowitz | we're talking more about IIS here | Nov 27 22:40 |
| schestowitz | not so much the OS | Nov 27 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | IIS has been bleeding for a while now. | Nov 27 22:40 |
| schestowitz | it's done to about 4% | Nov 27 22:40 |
| Ariadne | no, but i haven't dug into it much. i know there's a lot of ASP.Net applications out there, and for the most part they were the only reason anyone cared about IIS | Nov 27 22:40 |
| schestowitz | down | Nov 27 22:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe they dump .net | Nov 27 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I had a website hosted on Windows 2000 I used it because it's what there was. | Nov 27 22:40 |
| schestowitz | for something like drupal | Nov 27 22:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't exactly, acquire Windows 2000 Pro by traditional means. | Nov 27 22:40 |
| Ariadne | some likely have. expressionengine (the most popular .net cms) seems dead for a while now | Nov 27 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And someone had it infected with a botnet. | Nov 27 22:41 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: good | Nov 27 22:41 |
| schestowitz | it was a big waste of money | Nov 27 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which was funny because it would go to fire up an Apache server and you'd see the splash screen. | Nov 27 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I turned off the internet connection and dug it out and then remastered the ISO without the botnet. | Nov 27 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm going to go on a limb here and say that the IIS servers being decommissioned right now are largely on Windows Server 2008. | Nov 27 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or 2008 R2. | Nov 27 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Businesses are not liking Windows 10, even with the Long Term branches with the ability to turn off the spyware that you don't get as one of their peon victims. | Nov 27 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Businesses always get better stuff than the consumer skus, but a lot of that is enforced by the Software Licensing system service. | Nov 27 22:45 |
| vZS1 | A lot of people run their own web servers now. Same goes for reverse proxies. You can cobble together great network stacks with Go. The standard libraries are great for this. | Nov 27 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because you can pop up a screen and bust out the credit card and the only thing it does is provision you a different license and activate stuff that was already there. | Nov 27 22:46 |
| vZS1 | So no behemoths like Nginx or Apache. | Nov 27 22:46 |
| vZS1 | Go's networking libraries just keep getting better. | Nov 27 22:47 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: I bought a second hand HP laptop for my dad, yesterday. £95. Slapped Debian on it with KDE plasma. | Nov 27 22:50 |
| vZS1 | He's happy with it | Nov 27 22:50 |
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| vZS1 | I shield my entire family from Windows. They don't even know because they've never really got the chance to get caught in the MS trap. | Nov 27 22:52 |
| psydroid | Few people in my family even use Windows anymore, if they ever did | Nov 27 22:53 |
| psydroid | Those who did have had terrible experiences at times causing them to leave it behind completely | Nov 27 22:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Apple's new controversial telemetry that tells them whenever you open an application is what Windows 10 does on the default. | Nov 27 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you turn it to Basic, Microsoft says it doesn't collect that particular data. | Nov 27 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's bad, but they're being singled out for something that Windows has been up to since at least Windows 8. | Nov 27 23:48 |
| MinceR | does microshit advertise their crap with 'muh privacy' though? | Nov 27 23:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, which makes them less dishonest I suppose. | Nov 27 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If only barely. | Nov 27 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy wants my busted Galaxy S8+ | Nov 27 23:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I bought up a bunch more meat this morning, schestowitz | Nov 27 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know why I didn't think of this before. | Nov 27 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Got 4 things and total markdown was like $26! | Nov 27 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just saving hundreds and hundreds a month. | Nov 27 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The Basic telemetry doesn't sound like an epic disaster for privacy, but that's not the default and you can't turn it off completely. | Nov 27 23:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So not okay. | Nov 27 23:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | According to Microsoft, with Basic it doesn't collect personally identifiable information or crash dumps or list of applications and each time you launch them. | Nov 27 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But on other screens you still need to go turn things off like typing and inkpad data and Advertising ID and other stuff. | Nov 27 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To be fair, some of that is presented to the user on setup, but some of it is not. | Nov 27 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Again, it's proprietary, and it encrypts everything it sends them, so you don't know it only does what it says it will. | Nov 27 23:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it....might? Microsoft got caught paying for data that malicious "free" antivirus software from AVG/Avast was collecting, from Windows users obviously. | Nov 27 23:57 |
| MinceR | and you don't know if the next "update" will change it and how | Nov 27 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they have access to the OS, it makes you wonder how bad it was that MICROSOFT used third party antivirus companies as a legal condom to spy on Windows users. | Nov 27 23:58 |
| MinceR | maybe they got "caught" so you'll think that | Nov 27 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, whatever you do, don't install All Viruses Guaranteed. | Nov 27 23:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Nov 27 23:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I used to use "free" antivirus programs when I was on XP and there was nothing from Microsoft built into the OS. | Nov 27 23:59 |
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