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cubexyz | ok, bash question... | Mar 28 02:06 |
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cubexyz | any easy way to rename the first 2 characters of a file? | Mar 28 02:06 |
cubexyz | e.g. ca-1000 to gb-1000 etc | Mar 28 02:06 |
MinceR | run zsh from bash and use zmv :> | Mar 28 02:11 |
cubexyz | hmmm, there doesn't seem to be a zmv | Mar 28 02:13 |
kingoffrance | is this is a one-time single file or "i have 100 files named like this" question? | Mar 28 02:16 |
cubexyz | it pops up every now and then | Mar 28 02:17 |
cubexyz | a dozen files that have the wrong 2 character prefix | Mar 28 02:17 |
kingoffrance | well its not bash, but i sometimes used to do stuff like "find" (get list of files) , e.g. sed a "mv " in front and maybe add quotes, put in one tmp file, do same thing and sed with new names, put in another file; then "paste" the 2 together and add a shebang and eyeball before running it ; but that is really only because noone ever uses "paste" command i just wanted an excuse to use it | Mar 28 02:18 |
kingoffrance | but i dont know if you know "find" and "sed" | Mar 28 02:19 |
cubexyz | oh yeah I've those, just not recently | Mar 28 02:20 |
kingoffrance | its really just creating a crude script of mv commands <old> <new> so a very crude metaprogramming | Mar 28 02:21 |
cubexyz | i've used those | Mar 28 02:21 |
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cubexyz | ok... this worked: | Mar 28 02:27 |
cubexyz | rename ca gb ca-test1 | Mar 28 02:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Fedora is set to drop support for all processors that don't support AVX2. | Mar 28 02:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's 2013 on Intel and 2015 on AMD. | Mar 28 02:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | That drops a lot of hardware that isn't exactly ancient. | Mar 28 02:41 |
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DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Vivaldi on Facebook recommended some apps fro work at home that take privacy seriously. | Mar 28 04:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | I commented: Microsoft Teams took privacy very seriously. Everyone logged in at once and it crashed and then it couldn't spy on them. | Mar 28 04:06 |
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psydread | Fedora signed its own death sentence if that wasn't already clear | Mar 28 06:59 |
psydread | and it excludes a lot of newer processors that don't support AVX | Mar 28 07:00 |
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schestowitz | psydread: IBM | Mar 28 11:52 |
schestowitz | not Fedora | Mar 28 11:52 |
schestowitz | a lot of what's left of their community is IBM ("Red Hat") staff | Mar 28 11:53 |
schestowitz | watch Planet Fedora | Mar 28 11:53 |
schestowitz | a few may have come from Google Summit of Colour | Mar 28 11:53 |
XRevan86 | Yay, my CPU doesn't support AVX2. | Mar 28 11:57 |
XRevan86 | Note to self: never even consider Fedora. | Mar 28 11:58 |
XRevan86 | It also means that I won't be able to run Fedora even in a VM. | Mar 28 12:01 |
scientes | XRevan86, wut? Fedora runs on any x86-64 cpu | Mar 28 12:13 |
XRevan86 | > This follows last year's discussion over potentially raising Fedora's CPU requirements to AVX2-enabled processors. The AVX2 requirement was shot down for now but does raise the possibility that is the threshold Red Hat engineers are looking at as a potential base requirement for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9. | Mar 28 12:14 |
XRevan86 | Apparently, this is the source. | Mar 28 12:14 |
scientes | but it was Red Hat engineers that added the IFUNC support to gcc and glibc and the linker | Mar 28 12:15 |
XRevan86 | scientes: I'm not planning on changing my hardware any time soon. | Mar 28 12:15 |
scientes | so that you don't have to do such stupid things | Mar 28 12:15 |
scientes | and can multi-version | Mar 28 12:15 |
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scientes | https://goo.gl/maps/jti6egn6JjMv84579 | Mar 28 12:34 |
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scientes | Oh, just got my AK-47 here, no biggie | Mar 28 12:34 |
scientes | actually, not sure what gun that is | Mar 28 12:35 |
scientes | more modern than a AK-47 | Mar 28 12:35 |
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MinceR | 28 115810 < XRevan86> Note to self: never even consider Fedora. | Mar 28 13:55 |
MinceR | i'm already there :> | Mar 28 13:55 |
MinceR | > Red Hat engineers | Mar 28 13:55 |
MinceR | no such thing, i'm afraid | Mar 28 13:55 |
MinceR | 28 021339 < cubexyz> hmmm, there doesn't seem to be a zmv | Mar 28 13:56 |
MinceR | autoload zmv | Mar 28 13:56 |
MinceR | 28 040629 < DaemonFC[m]> I commented: Microsoft Teams took privacy very seriously. Everyone logged in at once and it crashed and then it couldn't spy on them. | Mar 28 13:56 |
MinceR | lol | Mar 28 13:56 |
MinceR | why didn't vivaldi on facebook comment that if you value your privacy, you should stop using facebook? | Mar 28 13:57 |
MinceR | https://apina.biz/174874.png | Mar 28 14:07 |
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MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/658129.jpg | Mar 28 14:25 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/01/5d0e95f0917dad99.mp4 | Mar 28 14:53 |
scientes | What is with Л being printed like an upside down V? | Mar 28 14:54 |
scientes | looks greek | Mar 28 14:55 |
MinceR | could be a greek influence, or just imitating handwritten style | Mar 28 14:55 |
scientes | this is print | Mar 28 14:55 |
scientes | I copied it out cause I was confused, and it pastes as Л | Mar 28 14:55 |
MinceR | and print never imitates handwriting? | Mar 28 14:55 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Because Cyrillic is derived from Greek, duh | Mar 28 14:56 |
scientes | this is a super standard serif however | Mar 28 14:56 |
scientes | well I just didn't know this alternative version of Л | Mar 28 14:56 |
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scientes | like how a has a few versions in English | Mar 28 14:56 |
XRevan86 | Alternative T is weirder :) | Mar 28 14:57 |
scientes | can't find anything here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T | Mar 28 14:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | T - Wikipedia | Mar 28 14:58 | |
scientes | XRevan86, what do you mean? | Mar 28 14:58 |
scientes | do you mean the serifs? | Mar 28 14:58 |
XRevan86 | scientes: The cursive one that looks like "m" is sometimes (rarely) used outside. | Mar 28 15:00 |
XRevan86 | An upside down Ш | Mar 28 15:00 |
scientes | oh yeah, you mean those stylistic one from block-printed texts | Mar 28 15:00 |
XRevan86 | ᲅ found it | Mar 28 15:01 |
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XRevan86 | A separate glyph in Unicode :) | Mar 28 15:02 |
scientes | don't have that font | Mar 28 15:02 |
scientes | oh, appears wikipedia ships a web font | Mar 28 15:02 |
scientes | cause it renders on wikipedia | Mar 28 15:02 |
scientes | XRevan86, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:20-Russian_alphabet-%D0%A2_%D1%82.svg | Mar 28 15:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:20-Russian alphabet-Т т.svg - Wikipedia | Mar 28 15:03 | |
XRevan86 | scientes: That's cursive, but yes :) | Mar 28 15:03 |
scientes | another case where Russian and English cursive contradict each other | Mar 28 15:03 |
scientes | or Z, where they are the same | Mar 28 15:04 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Д also can also have a sharp top. | Mar 28 15:04 |
XRevan86 | * also can have | Mar 28 15:04 |
XRevan86 | Like Δ | Mar 28 15:04 |
scientes | quite greek | Mar 28 15:04 |
XRevan86 | scientes: It is practically the same letter after all :) | Mar 28 15:06 |
XRevan86 | scientes: П and Г also look quite Greek, don't they | Mar 28 15:08 |
scientes | yes | Mar 28 15:09 |
scientes | georgian has two letters that look like the greek | Mar 28 15:09 |
scientes | ო and ტ | Mar 28 15:10 |
MinceR | georgian has a power letter? :> | Mar 28 15:10 |
XRevan86 | Ⰻ | Mar 28 15:12 |
MinceR | Ⰴ | Mar 28 15:14 |
MinceR | Ⰲ | Mar 28 15:14 |
MinceR | Ⰾ | Mar 28 15:14 |
scientes | þ | Mar 28 15:14 |
MinceR | penile alphabet | Mar 28 15:14 |
XRevan86 | Unicode: the fig sign can be considered offensive | Mar 28 15:16 |
XRevan86 | Also Unicode: Ⰾ | Mar 28 15:16 |
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MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/657914.jpg | Mar 28 15:26 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Bumping the processor to something more recent makes sense. | Mar 28 17:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | But SSE4 is probably the logical choice. | Mar 28 17:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a decent performance win over SSE2, and it's far enough back that stragglers with old computers running one of the lighter spins won't get bumped for a while. | Mar 28 17:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think AVX should be the minimum at some point, a few years from now. | Mar 28 17:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | SSE4.1 is from 2008. | Mar 28 17:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Still gives people running old hardware some space while bringing in support for most of the new instructions. | Mar 28 17:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | Including the ones that software AV1 decode really benefits from. | Mar 28 17:57 |
psydroid | I am actually fine with AVX2 as a new standard | Mar 28 17:57 |
psydroid | but then people need to be aware that you can't run Fedora or RHEL on processors that don't support it | Mar 28 17:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's SSE 4.1 optimizations in dav1d that Fedora can't really take full advantage of and I think that would be the logical case for bumping processor minimums here. | Mar 28 17:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | A 10 or 15% decode improvement for AV1 makes it a lot more realistic for software decode. | Mar 28 17:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | My laptop has bo hardware decode profile for AV1 so I am very open to making dav1d the best software decoder possible. | Mar 28 17:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | *no | Mar 28 17:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | With the SSE4.1 code path, my laptop could decode 1080p AV1 without breaking much of a sweat. | Mar 28 18:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Firefox supports reference and dav1d right now but hides dav1d under a flag. | Mar 28 18:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | 480p AV1 is unusable with reference and works pretty well woth dav1d. | Mar 28 18:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even using the SSE2 build of dav1d, you're looking at about 6 or 7 times faster software decode than the reference library. | Mar 28 18:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some people with old hardware have to use an extension called h264ify on Firefox to make YouTube fall back to that. | Mar 28 18:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hardware decode of that codec has been around for a while and it's not terribly demanding. | Mar 28 18:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | To get a 50% compression efficiency improvement over h264, any codec is going to be about 3 or 4 times harder to encode or decode. | Mar 28 18:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | The reason h264 quickly toom over on the pirate scene over MPEG 4 ASP is that ASP is a disaster and for not too much more processing time you get much better results. | Mar 28 18:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | *took | Mar 28 18:05 |
MinceR | people who want fedora or rHELL have already signed up for abuse | Mar 28 18:06 |
MinceR | if their beloved systemd distribution won't run on their PC, that's their own damn fault and their own damn problem | Mar 28 18:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft pretty much abandoned ASP right off the bat and said it was a lot more patented than MPEG2 at the time and the results were not much better. | Mar 28 18:06 |
MinceR | besides, systemd+gnome is going to grow in hardware requirements just like Backdoors anyway | Mar 28 18:06 |
MinceR | so get ready to buy a new PC every few years just to be able to boot anyway | Mar 28 18:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | So you're saying that the bumping off of all pre-2013 PCs is to give GNOME a little bit of a kick on the ones that are left. | Mar 28 18:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | I still think 2008 is a more reasonable choice here. | Mar 28 18:08 |
MinceR | giving gnome such a "kick" is worthless | Mar 28 18:08 |
MinceR | it's a bloated, useless monstrosity | Mar 28 18:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Most people have a PC that's newer than that. Fedora proposes to kill anything prior to Haswell. | Mar 28 18:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | With SSE4.1 support you get almost the entire benefit of AVX anyway. | Mar 28 18:08 |
MinceR | i guess systemd users will find out their tolerance for abuse the hard way. | Mar 28 18:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | But PCs dating back 5 years prior can still run the OS. | Mar 28 18:09 |
cubexyz | same old story, planned obsolescence | Mar 28 18:10 |
cubexyz | can't have anything that lasts a long time | Mar 28 18:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | The AVX2 hard requirement is more like Apple than I'm comfortable with here. | Mar 28 18:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | And they said they might mandate a few specific CPU features that are newer than that! | Mar 28 18:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | Something tells me that this could become a pattern. That they are not going to go 17 years without doing this again. | Mar 28 18:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | They'll find some little feature that hardly makes any difference at all except that 20% have to go find another distribution in a few more years. | Mar 28 18:11 |
MinceR | makes sense | Mar 28 18:14 |
MinceR | they're dumbing down their UI in the vein of crApple | Mar 28 18:14 |
MinceR | as for finding another distribution -- in the systemd religion, that is heresy | Mar 28 18:14 |
MinceR | as they say, "fragmentation is bad" and "'Linux' is not about choice" | Mar 28 18:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | "You want to see a magic trick? I'm going to make this AMD laptop.....disappear!" *Implements FMA4* | Mar 28 18:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | :) | Mar 28 18:15 |
MinceR | :> | Mar 28 18:15 |
MinceR | they can then sell that laptop to someone who won't abuse it | Mar 28 18:16 |
MinceR | and they can buy a shiny new crapbook or surface and put gnome OS on it | Mar 28 18:16 |
MinceR | and keep on acting like the hipsters they are | Mar 28 18:16 |
cubexyz | do you throw out your stereo system every 5 years? | Mar 28 18:17 |
cubexyz | the 5 year cycle of computers is ridiculous | Mar 28 18:17 |
psydroid | I don't use operating systems that limit the useful period of my hardware to 5 years or less | Mar 28 18:19 |
psydroid | self-evidently I don't use Fedora or RHEL either | Mar 28 18:19 |
MinceR | 28 181628 <@MinceR> and they can buy a shiny new crapbook or surface and put gnome OS on it | Mar 28 18:20 |
MinceR | if course this assumes that their beloved idol corporate mafias will allow them to do so in the first place | Mar 28 18:21 |
MinceR | but they're probably fine with it, considering all the love for UEFI | Mar 28 18:21 |
psydroid | I guess Red Hat has been trying to become the new Microsoft for 25 and they finally did it | Mar 28 18:21 |
MinceR | red hat is still renting access to UEFI from microsloth, though | Mar 28 18:21 |
cubexyz | so redhat is paying money to M$ for that? | Mar 28 18:22 |
psydroid | I hope they will continue doing that for a long time, it makes them more "compatible" | Mar 28 18:23 |
MinceR | they did so at least once | Mar 28 18:23 |
MinceR | (and so did microshit's other orbiter, canonical) | Mar 28 18:23 |
MinceR | i didn't care enough for the scheme to find out how long it lasts | Mar 28 18:23 |
MinceR | but you can bet it won't be permanent | Mar 28 18:23 |
psydroid | Secure Boot is the first misfeature I disable on a laptop I install a GNU/Linux distribution on | Mar 28 18:24 |
MinceR | eventually microsuck is going to pull a False Flag and block these bootloader stubs | Mar 28 18:24 |
MinceR | i enable Legacy Boot if i can, but intel claimed they're stopping supporting it this year | Mar 28 18:24 |
MinceR | so if i were to buy a new x86 CPU, it would be AMD | Mar 28 18:24 |
psydroid | and going forward I will avoid hardware that contains it, which limits the number of alternatives, but I knew that much a few years ago | Mar 28 18:24 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: i think i'm gonna stay on older computers from now on | Mar 28 18:27 |
CrystalMath | i will buy more old computers | Mar 28 18:27 |
MinceR | i've already bought an older laptop without UEFI or IME | Mar 28 18:27 |
CrystalMath | from the late 2000s early 2010s | Mar 28 18:27 |
MinceR | but this doesn't seem sustainable | Mar 28 18:27 |
CrystalMath | nice :) | Mar 28 18:27 |
CrystalMath | i have one which has legacy boot support | Mar 28 18:27 |
CrystalMath | and AMD | Mar 28 18:27 |
psydroid | what I am afraid of is that MS is going to try to infect ARM, RISC-V and POWER too | Mar 28 18:27 |
MinceR | cryptography may proceed to the extent that general purpose computers just aren't powerful anymore | Mar 28 18:27 |
MinceR | microsloth already tried to take over ARM | Mar 28 18:28 |
psydroid | I am using an older laptop with UEFI or IME because it has an AMD processor | Mar 28 18:28 |
MinceR | they'll try again | Mar 28 18:28 |
psydroid | without* | Mar 28 18:28 |
psydroid | they will try but they will fail | Mar 28 18:30 |
cubexyz | I'm curious about the oldest ssh cipher that still works | Mar 28 18:30 |
psydroid | fortunately they have only been in bed with Qualcomm so far | Mar 28 18:30 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/01/9e8b64d188e8e361.jpg | Mar 28 19:06 |
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CrystalMath | i still can't believe Kenny Rogers is dead | Mar 28 19:19 |
CrystalMath | 2020 is too cruel | Mar 28 19:19 |
psydread | I only knew him by name until a few days ago | Mar 28 19:20 |
psydread | now I know he was a gambler | Mar 28 19:20 |
CrystalMath | it's hard to imagine 20th century america without him | Mar 28 19:20 |
MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/robins | Mar 28 19:23 |
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DaemonFC[m] | > do you throw out your stereo system every 5 years? | Mar 28 19:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Why would you? If it has an aux in it's automatically compatible with anything, including Opus and Wavpack files on your phone. | Mar 28 19:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | My stereo has Bluetooth and Opus seems to still sound okay transmitted as SBC. | Mar 28 19:32 |
MinceR | if people like poettering had their way, aux in would be illegal | Mar 28 19:39 |
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cubexyz | DaemonFC[m], right, it's just an example | Mar 28 20:00 |
cubexyz | of course no one would throw out a working stereo, or lawnmower or almost any device you can think of | Mar 28 20:01 |
cubexyz | but somehow with computers we are expect to endlessly upgrade them | Mar 28 20:01 |
cubexyz | another example would be Sony TVs, they don't help you with replacement parts | Mar 28 20:02 |
cubexyz | no service manuals, etc, etc | Mar 28 20:02 |
cubexyz | it could me years to get the SCL docs from HP | Mar 28 20:04 |
cubexyz | the corporate environment is generally hostile to the customer | Mar 28 20:05 |
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MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/platypus | Mar 28 20:45 |
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