●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, April 28, 2022 ●●
● Apr 28
[00:00]	TR News	Melinda Gates: finds it more gross that her husband befriended a an underage sex trafficker than her husband being a corrupt, sick, greedy sociopath. She too is (or became) a corrupt, sick, greedy sociopath. But Epstein wasn't her taste...
[00:01]	TR News	Gates Foundation press releases about how much it loves children certainly did not age well
[00:02]	TR News	TV report on arrest of pedophile in home of Bill Gates http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/kiro-gates-porn-arrest.mp4
[00:02]	TR News	Sick man talks about sickness http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/gates-economics-chat.mp4
[00:03]	TR News	What Bill Gates does to the planet (2007) http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Bill-and-Melinda-Gates-Foundation-Truth-Revealed.mp4
[00:04]	TR News	How Gates Foundation staff reacted to revelations that Bill Gates was sneaking behind his wife's back to meet a man whom you only befriend when you want access to underage girls http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/gates-epstein.mp4
[00:04]	TR News	Sick man attacks the world's very poorest http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/gates-africa.mp4
[00:05]	TR News	Rare recording: Bill Gates hit it off with ICBM only because of his mom, explains a manager who was there at the time (nepotism, not merit) http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Meet-Bill-Gates-fair-use.mp4
[00:07]	TR News	Slashdot used to be pro-Linux. Now a megaphone of Microsoft FUD against Linux https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/04/27/2110216/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users see http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
[00:07]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/04/27/2110216/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/04/27/2110216/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users
[00:07]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Finds Linux Desktop Flaw That Gives Root To Untrusted Users - Slashdot
[00:07]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
[00:07]	TR News	"If you run Arch Linux or a distribution based on Arch Linux, you will occasionally encounter errors when using the package manager (pacman)." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RN0pIuE6ZmU
[00:07]	TR Bot	 SOLVED: Pacman Wouldn't Let Me Run An Update! - Invidious
[00:08]	TR News	"Calcurse is a great application but if you want to go even more minimal than that how about you try out when which is as minimal as you can go while still being productive" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LslUKm1mqkw
[00:08]	TR Bot	 The Most Usable Minimal Terminal Calendar! - Invidious
[00:08]	TR News	LOL "Gaming" headset.... does it also come in blue and pink for either gender? https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/corsair-void-rgb-elite-usb-gaming-headset/
[00:08]	TR Bot	 Save $20 on a Corsair Void RGB Elite USB Gaming Headset - Make Tech Easier
[00:11]	TR News	Linux Lite 6.0 RC1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164102#comment-33481
[00:11]	psydruid	computer hardware news in general is becoming very uninteresting and repetitive
[00:11]	TR Bot	 Linux Lite 6.0 RC1 Released | Tux Machines
[00:12]	TR News	Criminals (Microsoft) uses smokescreen to distract from actively-exploited critical flaws in Windows etc. Why does "LINUX TODAY" help them???? https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/nimbuspwn-bugs-allow-root-privilege-access-on-some-linux-machines/
[00:12]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxtoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/nimbuspwn-bugs-allow-root-privilege-access-on-some-linux-machines/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/nimbuspwn-bugs-allow-root-privilege-access-on-some-linux-machines/
[00:12]	TR Bot	 Nimbuspwn Bugs Allow Root Privilege Access on Some Linux Machines
[00:12]	bnchs	true
[00:12]	bnchs	it's all about gamer gear or whatever that marketing bullshit is
[00:12]	bnchs	i miss when computer hardware progressed
[00:13]	psydruid	it does progress, but the progress is mostly outside of the mainstream
[00:13]	MinceR	gaming hardware used to be outside of the mainstream
[00:13]	psydruid	and mainstream media only report on it sporadically
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	microsoft calls systemd "Linux"
[00:14]	psydruid	all mainstream hardware has become gaming hardware
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	the media is in Microsoft's pockets
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	corrupt
[00:15]	psydruid	those will be the last Mohicans of current mainstream hardware
[00:15]	psydruid	gamers and their suppliers I mean
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[00:16]	MinceR	especially some of the first optical gaming mice that were particularly good for FPS (being linear)
[00:16]	MinceR	the marketroids were pushing the models with higher DPI/CPI much harder and those were a lot more expensive too
[00:16]	MinceR	systemd-kerneld
[00:16]	psydruid	what will happen to the media when Microsoft inevitably goes down?
[00:16]	psydruid	will those go down with them?
[00:17]	MinceR	\_()_/
[00:17]	MinceR	maybe We'll All Go Together When We Go
[00:18]	schestowitz-TR	Lehrer
[00:18]	MinceR	indeed
[00:18]	psydruid	it's not something I'm concerned about
[00:18]	bnchs	there's still things i like about computer hardware
[00:18]	psydruid	it's more of an observation
[00:18]	schestowitz	still not dead (94) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer
[00:18]	TR Bot	 Tom Lehrer - Wikipedia
[00:18]	MinceR	otherwise, i predict that they'll quickly pivot to something else to suck up to
[00:18]	schestowitz	26 years from now: we'll go together
[00:18]	MinceR	and it will be like 1984
[00:19]	psydruid	I think new media could come into existence that aren't tied to the status quo
[00:19]	schestowitz	"wait for me!"
[00:19]	MinceR	except that they already don't admit to pushing MICROS~1
[00:19]	MinceR	they'll just gainsay themselves if necessary
[00:19]	TR News	Videos: Arch, Calcurse, and Leaving Twitter Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164230
[00:19]	MinceR	like crApple always does
[00:19]	TR Bot	 Videos: Arch, Calcurse, and Leaving Twitter | Tux Machines
[00:19]	MinceR	crApple: integrated GPUs suck
[00:19]	activelow	microsoft FreeType is awful, extremely slow... just found out, with a terminal using anti-aliased truetype fonts... hitting 100% CPU when terminal is updated, which it is with cmatrix utility
[00:19]	schestowitz-TR	the US gov. wants the world's PCs infested with back doors
[00:19]	MinceR	crApple releases a PC with an integrated GPU
[00:20]	MinceR	crApple: integrated GPUs are great, buy one from us quickly!
[00:20]	schestowitz-TR	so if it does not keep BAILOUT OUT Microsoft it'll try to shoehorn some other piece of shit OS
[00:20]	bnchs	they push shit like x86 and ARM
[00:20]	activelow	in comparison, tested on ancient rxvt-2.7, cpu usage close to nothing
[00:20]	MinceR	crApple: x86 is shit, don't buy it
[00:20]	schestowitz-TR	*BAILING
[00:20]	MinceR	crApple switches from PPC to x86
[00:20]	bnchs	CPU architectures that are backdoored
[00:20]	MinceR	crApple: x86 is great, buy one from us quickly! also, PPC support's days are numbered.
[00:20]	schestowitz-TR	"Trust"Zone
[00:21]	schestowitz-TR	"Trust" is like "Truth" now
[00:21]	MinceR	truthiness
[00:21]	schestowitz-TR	the word is often use by those pursuing the opposite
[00:21]	schestowitz-TR	9/11 "truthers", "truth social"...
[00:21]	bnchs	unlike x86 which was a transistion to a closed system
[00:21]	bnchs	ARM was, from the start, a closed system
[00:21]	bnchs	with locked bootloaders and unchangeable signing keys
[00:22]	activelow	most of the GUI desktop of GNU/Linux and *BSD depend on it... microsoft freetype
[00:22]	TR News	According to Wikipedia, AAA has a bad record of supporting measures that harm motorists and car owners. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/27/according-to-wikipedia-aaa-has-a-bad-record-of-supporting-measures-that-harm-motorists-and-car-owners/ Source: baronhk
[00:22]	TR Bot	 According to Wikipedia, AAA has a bad record of supporting measures that harm motorists and car owners. BaronHK's Rants
[00:23]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQdGQZul2HQ
[00:23]	TR Bot	https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=hQdGQZul2HQ
[00:23]	TR Bot	invidious.namazso.eu | Heres Why Old Cars are Better Than New Cars - Invidious
[00:23]	psydruid	Alcoholics Anonymous America
[00:23]	TR News	"We just released a new diaspora* version, which addresses two critical security issues in the Ruby on Rails framework, as well as one medium security issue in our code discovered by a security researcher." https://blog.diasporafoundation.org/72-diaspora-version-0-7-17-0-released-with-security-fixes
[00:23]	TR Bot	 diaspora* version 0.7.17.0 released with security fixes! - The diaspora* Project
[00:23]	psydruid	maybe they all work at Microsoft and ICBM/Deadrat
[00:25]	activelow	btw. suckless.org components for X11 often depend on it too: the extremely slow microsoft freetype fonts
[00:25]	TR News	This is not an expansion but brain drain https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-job-opportunity-licensing-and-compliance-manager
[00:25]	TR Bot	 FSF job opportunity: Licensing and compliance manager Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[00:26]	psydruid	suckless should suck less, but instead it sucks more
[00:28]	activelow	anyway, i wiped the entire dependency graph of mapple freetype today; repairing rxvt-2.7 build was nasty, yet it's done... a 20year old terminal emulator it is
[00:30]	activelow	reverted system encoding default from utf8 back to ISO8859-15..., as expected some issues remaining with it, which requires re-compilation of the entire userspace for testing
[00:30]	activelow	i'll handle unicode with iconv and similar
[00:34]	activelow	by introducing anti-aliased mapple freetype fonts into gnu/bsd x11 terminal-emulators, their line output was slowed down 99%, in return opengl is advertised to accelerate this
[00:35]	activelow	i must admit, anti-aliased truetype fonts look slightly better, yet not much if rxvt is configured correctly
[00:36]	TR News	blunders
[00:36]	TR News	Microsoft is spearheading a media FUD attack on Linux at the moment, looking to distract from its own major security blunders? Why isn't "Linux" Foundation responding? Oh, sorry, I forget it's among Microsoft's bribe recipients http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
[00:36]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
[00:37]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164231
[00:37]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[00:38]	activelow	the mapple freetype still is a nasty attack against free software, and it wasn't easily removed
[00:39]	activelow	GTK2+X11 cannot be had without it, freetype; GTK2.6+GTKFB should do the trick, in case there was urgent need for any gtk2; another such piece of 20year old software
[00:42]	activelow	anyone interested in hacking netsurf-motif? at least this one could be had within X11 without any Mapple attached to it.
[00:43]	TR News	This has absolutely nothing to do with Linux and the author, newly-hired Dan Whiting, never even used it https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/ see http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/dan-whiting-linux-foundation/Linux
[00:43]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/
[00:43]	TR Bot	 LFPH Completes the Proof-of-Concept of its GCCN Trust Registry Network - Linux Foundation
[00:43]	TR Bot	 Links Xmas 2008: Linux 2.6.28 Released | Techrights
[00:44]	TR News	This has absolutely nothing to do with Linux and the author, newly-hired Dan Whiting, never even used it https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/ see http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/dan-whiting-linux-foundation/
[00:44]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/
[00:44]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Has a New Lead Editor. Like Jim Zemlin, He Doesnt Use Linux. Hes in Love with iPad. | Techrights
[00:45]	TR News	Tomorrow I'll do a long video about the so-called 'Linux' Foundation http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation
[00:45]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation - Techrights
[00:45]	TR News	6 Best Alternative Router Firmware that are Open Source Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164232
[00:45]	TR Bot	 6 Best Alternative Router Firmware that are Open Source | Tux Machines
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[00:47]	TR News	"After two long years of COVID hiatus, local Debian events in Montreal are back! Last Sunday, nine of us met at Koumbit to work on Debian (and other stuff!), chat and socialise." https://veronneau.org/montreals-debian-stuff-april-2022.html
[00:47]	TR Bot	 Louis-Philippe Vronneau - Montreal's Debian & Stuff - April 2022
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[00:50]	TR News	SocketCAN x Kubernetes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164233
[00:50]	TR Bot	 SocketCAN x Kubernetes | Tux Machines
[00:50]	DaemonFC	MinceR, It was funny to watch Apple go from saying integrated graphics were puny and that's why the Mac included a discrete graphics card, and then when they shipped with some shitty Intel graphics that could barely run a desktop compositor, they said how great that was. Efficient even.
[00:50]	TR News	Imagine some people gullible enough to think the Free software community is in fact attacked by the victims of corporations waging the attacks
[00:51]	DaemonFC	Oh good. The state issued my car title.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	I was beginning to wonder.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	They got the Impala's issued in 10 days.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	They're getting slower.
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[00:52]	DaemonFC	Must be all those tax hikes. Can't afford to run anything at this rate.
[00:52]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: now billgates has something top envy about you
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	*to
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	you ride a 14 year olkd
[00:52]	DaemonFC	LOL
[00:52]	DaemonFC	It's the first car I've had in a while that wouldn't be old enough to drive itself.
[00:53]	schestowitz-TR	iirc, some southern us states let you drive at 15 with a parent
[00:53]	DaemonFC	It's a great car. I'm having some rust removed next week though. Some cosmetic touch ups. Nothing outrageous.
[00:53]	DaemonFC	The undercarriage looks find.
[00:53]	DaemonFC	*fine*
[00:53]	DaemonFC	I think the car will last a while.
[00:53]	DaemonFC	It drives like a new car.
[00:54]	DaemonFC	I'll be in it for less than had I bought some cheap little KIA that breaks right away and burns oil after the second oil change.
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[00:54]	DaemonFC	So it's a lot better even if it is 14 years old.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	You get a KIA and by the time it's 5 years old almost everything's broken and the engine is burning a quart of oil every thousand miles.
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[00:59]	TR News	Links 29/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
[00:59]	TR Bot	 Links 29/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights
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[01:00]	schestowitz-TR	"kia" is the sound the car makes
[01:00]	schestowitz-TR	when it vomit
[01:00]	schestowitz-TR	*vomits
[01:00]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164234
[01:00]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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[01:09]	activelow	"Patent holders who contribute to standards published by a major standards body such as ISO are required to disclose the scope of their patents, but TrueType was not such a standard."
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[01:10]	activelow	another one: "TrueType systems include a virtual machine that executes programs inside the font"
[01:11]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Mom was shocked to find out that citric acid can be used to descale a dishwasher.
[01:12]	bnchs	freetype couldn't implement any of the font patents crap
[01:12]	DaemonFC	I said, "Yeah, what do you think was used to de-sludge my radiator and heater core in the Buick?".
[01:12]	activelow	don't doubt, some processing is necessary when a vector format is transformed into a bitmap... however i would want to hear a very good argument, why such isn't pre-processed, and instead requires some virtual machine (slow)
[01:12]	DaemonFC	The old coolant had been in the car so long the additives were dropping out of it.
[01:12]	activelow	bnchs: freetype implementing this is problematic too, for technical reasons
[01:12]	DaemonFC	Not great, but women don't know anything about cars.
[01:13]	DaemonFC	They usually just buy them and drive them until they're so neglected that they don't want to deal with something strange it's doing now, and buy another one.
[01:14]	DaemonFC	I know what scared the last owner into dumping this one and the funny part was that it wasn't even THAT expensive to fix considering.
[01:14]	DaemonFC	One of the wheel bearings was pulsing the ABS system because it wasn't spinning right.
[01:14]	DaemonFC	Didn't even cost $200 to fix that.
[01:15]	DaemonFC	They omitted the labor for the bearing hubs because I was getting the brakes overhauled anyway.
[01:15]	DaemonFC	So they had so much of the system dismantled anyway for the brakes that I told them to just go ahead and put new wheel bearing hubs on the front end.
[01:16]	DaemonFC	So for not too much more than the brake job, she could have had them replace the offending bearing hub, or even both of them.
[01:17]	DaemonFC	Women do dumb shit with cars, especially unloading them for a low price because something that sounds worse than it is starts happening.
[01:17]	psydruid	Fonts were designed and implemented to be malicious?
[01:17]	activelow	the TrueType system was/is malicious
[01:17]	psydruid	What in modern computers isn't malicious?
[01:19]	activelow	anyway, i'll keep bitmap fonts; with mapple freetype fully wiped and with it GTK2/3 are gone (except for some fringe case)
[01:19]	DaemonFC	When bearing hubs go out, they can make some awful noises, but you can get a Moog bearing hub that's at least as good as OE for not a terrible amount of money.
[01:20]	DaemonFC	When I finally heard the bearing hub on the driver front screeching at me, I knew where the ABS problem was coming from.
[01:20]	activelow	don't know, why GTK2/3 couldn't use X11 PCF fonts, without any mapple fontconfig/freetype involved
[01:21]	DaemonFC	Unfortunately, the Buick is such a heavy car, that you have to use better brake pads and rotors than you can get away with on an Impala.
[01:21]	DaemonFC	So I upgraded from those godawful semi-metallic pads "Diane" put on there and replaced them with ceramic.
[01:22]	activelow	the equation with mapple freetype is this: either it is accepted (with any legal and technical issue involved), and if not entire gtk/qt are gone forever
[01:22]	DaemonFC	I also got rid of the "Die Hard" battery from god knows when and upgraded to a Duracell Platinum AGM, and got a tune up, and new belt tensioner and serpentine belt. And flushed the coolant out real good and had the transmission serviced.
[01:23]	DaemonFC	I know how old cars start giving problems, and believe me, you don't want to break down because someone never replaced a 14 year old belt.
[01:23]	psydruid	are these software patents valid in the EU as well or are they strictly a US thing?
[01:23]	activelow	the patents weren't valid because IBM Mapple violated the ISO standardization criteria
[01:24]	activelow	in fact, it was _fraud_, to advertise TrueType as _standard_, and at the same time not revealing the patent portfolio held against such standard
[01:25]	activelow	brings me back to the reasoning, why GPL without a guarding standard is dangerous and potentially harmful to "free software"
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[01:47]	MinceR	28 015221 < schestowitz-TR> you ride a 14 year olkd
[01:47]	MinceR	that's nothing, i ride a 2 year old
[01:47]	MinceR	(closer to 3, but whatever)
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[01:56]	activelow	patents or none, vector-fonts, aren't always the best choice, bitmapped fonts have advantages too, such as: easier to implement, and much faster while their disadvantages are almost absent when tailored for the specific use-case
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● Apr 28
[02:02]	activelow	anyway, already curious, once i got time, if the ancient rxvt-2.7 graphics support can be utilized, to rasterize any vectors (regis, sixel) directly into virtual terminal, together with support from gnuplot, TeX
[02:03]	activelow	another nice to have, for example: less <file.pdf> outputs plain text and rasterized graphics from illustrations directly into virtual terminal, and too if such virtual terminal output can be forwared 1:1 into /dev/lp0 matrix plotter
[02:03]	activelow	which is, this is how it should have been
[02:03]	bnchs	activelow, uhhh that requires less to have a PDF parser
[02:04]	activelow	the gentoo lesser already does output plaintext from pdf, nice. yet cannot process illustrations/images into virtual terminal sixels yet
[02:12]	activelow	less <doc.dvi> or even better, less <doc.tex> directly rendered into virtual terminal plaintext and sixels (for formulas and illustrations)
[02:13]	activelow	and imagine this, if a converter from sixel(DEC)-to-epson was available, what such a *nix terminal could do
[02:13]	activelow	it is an _universal_ IDE then
[02:15]	MinceR	it always was a universal IDE
[02:16]	MinceR	"Unix was originally meant to be a convenient platform for programmers developing software to be run on it and on other systems, rather than for non-programmers."   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
[02:16]	TR Bot	 Unix - Wikipedia
[02:17]	activelow	nowadays, without vector graphics rasterization (directly) into virtual terminal, not to mention printing (again some Mapple crap) instead of piping vt output directly into /dev/lp0
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[02:34]	bnchs	so apparently chromeos can run steam games
[02:37]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-270422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-270422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-270422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-270422.txt
[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 27, 2022
[02:37]	activelow	here is the difference, rasterization into virtual terminal, is suitable for for unix networking with teletype terminal (tty), rasterization direct into framebuffer isn't
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[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 27, 2022
[02:39]	activelow	and any content outside tty context is missing certain features; it is conceptually different, rarely understood, why that is, and why it is causing me headache and bad mood for years
[02:39]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-270422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-270422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-270422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-270422.txt
[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 27, 2022
[02:40]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-270422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-270422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-270422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-270422.txt
[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 27, 2022
[02:42]	activelow	btw. i intend to operate my tty at 120 characters width, epson can do it with the right fonts chosen, and of cause any vt can set it too: export COLS=120 then
[02:42]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-27.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-27.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:42]	activelow	dots per column/row/character should be too difficult, to estimate the final dimension for any rasterized output
[02:42]	activelow	*shouldn't
[02:43]	activelow	and with fanfeed paper, the exact amount of rows can be configured, for the line printer
[02:44]	activelow	not sure yet, why adobe postscript is necessary, the 9pin matrix printers didn't require any
[02:46]	activelow	i'll keep postscript for a little while longer, given the fact, pdf and related are common; instead of shell script and plaintext together with sixel support
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[06:11]	matey	Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/ Microsoft staff now feeds the media with anti-Linux talking points
[06:11]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
[06:11]	matey	one thing they have succeded in, obviously, is getting more people (regardless of which side of the debate theyre on) to talk about "linux" as if its more than just a kernel
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[06:12]	matey	these days i hear more about linux than i do about gnu, and this from people who are fighting "anti-linux campaigns"
[06:12]	matey	this seems like a win-win move for microsoft; heads they win, tails gnu loses.
[06:13]	matey	of course my prognosis for gnu and linux is terrible, but its based on facts people dont like to talk about
[06:13]	matey	it has nothing to do with the patent nonsense microsoft talks about-- as if "microsoft" and "security" can be used in the same sentence without laughter
[06:14]	matey	meanwhile theyve put their own people in charge of the linux foundation, sheer hypocrisy and two-facedness but we already said "microsoft" so those are givens
[06:15]	matey	still they have even their opponents boosting the brands they prefer over others
[06:15]	matey	which should surprise me, not that it does
[06:16]	matey	i mean a year or two ago matt lee was saying we should call it "linux" after hiring stephen fry to call it "gnu"
[06:17]	matey	now microsoft is spreading fud about "linux" and all you hear is "linux linux linux"
[06:17]	matey	are we taking matt lees advice now? 
[06:18]	matey	i guess bnchs knows better, thats good
[06:18]	matey	bnchs noted that in GNU/Linux, you would have to boot to another OS to get root.
[06:25]	matey	my prognosis is that gnu will die in the next few years. thats not a happy thing
[06:25]	matey	but if we call it "linux" then we simply erase it from history as well
[06:26]	matey	im not the least in favour of that
[06:26]	matey	there was never a linux operating system
[06:26]	matey	there was android, there was gnu
[06:26]	matey	i know alpine is proud (seems so) to not use gnu userland
[06:27]	matey	does it also use llvm? i dont know, i pay it very little attention because it still uses a doomed kernel
[06:28]	matey	however lets give alpine credit where due. suppose tomorrow all the governments of the world, the native peoples of every land, and lets even throw in aliens and jesus for fun, got together and banned linux from use
[06:28]	matey	i figure alpine would just use a different kernel then. granted it might take a while. but its a pretty determined project.
[06:29]	matey	maybe im giving it too much credit, but giving it too little isnt on my to-do list.
[06:29]	matey	id rather just say linux itself is a doomed kernel
[06:29]	matey	the fsf on the other hand, look what they do
[06:30]	matey	theyve become a linux kernel dick sucking contest
[06:30]	matey	first debian decided other kernels didnt matter, then the fsf seemed to have as well
[06:31]	matey	gone are the days of "there is no other operating system but gnu (and that was said humourously) and linux is ONE OF its kernels"
[06:31]	matey	not if you read the fsf website
[06:31]	matey	linux isnt even a fucking free kernel. i mean
[06:32]	matey	every time richard stallman says "gnu slash linux" he isnt following the fsdg
[06:32]	matey	of course hes not a distro so thats fine
[06:32]	matey	but i mean, linux-libre is a (relatively) free kernel, its free of blobs
[06:32]	matey	"linux" is a non-free kernel, actually.
[06:33]	matey	why he ever even talks about "linux" when its non-free, go figure. the fsf shouldnt promote linux, only linux-libre of course
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[06:33]	matey	the openbsd kernel is more free than "linux", no non-free driverse
[06:34]	matey	but they get shunned while "linux" gets a pass
[06:34]	matey	its absolutely a double standard
[06:34]	matey	i doubt VERY MUCH it has anything to do with being paid off-- but
[06:34]	matey	just the fact that its the sort of thing you get as a result of paying people off makes it sad
[06:34]	matey	liike who paid them off to display this double standard
[06:35]	matey	no one? so theyre incredibly lacking in sheer consistency and intellectual honesty FREE OF CHARGE? thats such a waste
[06:35]	matey	they should have at least set a price on that
[06:36]	matey	as long as theyre going to make such ridiculous self-defeating compromises 
[06:37]	matey	they should at least take some money for it and put it towards i dont know... whatevers left of free software or something
[06:37]	matey	alternatively they could be more honest. how much would that cost?
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[06:46]	matey	here is my favourite one though...
[06:46]	matey	linux-libre violates the fsdg.
[06:47]	matey	if you make a fully-free version of debian, and you want the fsf to promote it, you have to meet the fsdg (not the dfsg which came first, this is the fsf criteria, the fsdg, not confusing at all) and the fsdg doesnt let you name your os after something non-free
[06:48]	matey	so you cant call it debian-libre (i mean this is apart from the fact that it would violate a trademark most likely held by spi, but i dont know who the holder is)
[06:48]	matey	they might/might not care about the trademark though
[06:48]	matey	if it was a spin, i dont know what the policy is
[06:49]	matey	anyway with puppy linux, barry kauler (trademark holder) wouldnt go after you for "puppy-libre"
[06:49]	matey	but youd have to change the name for the fsf to promote it
[06:49]	matey	they wont promote puppy-libre
[06:49]	matey	you have to change the name of the os. but not the kernel!
[06:49]	matey	puppy-libre refers to a non-free os, no good
[06:50]	matey	linux-libre refers to a non-free kernel-- totally okay
[06:50]	matey	so puppy-libre? no. but libredog gnu/linux or libredog gnu/linux-libre? green light!
[06:51]	matey	the linux kernel is VERY privileged here, being the ONLY non-free kernel you can refer to in the name of your fsdg-approved distro.
[06:51]	matey	and indeed the only non-free software you can refer to (directly) in the name of your fsdg-approved distro
[06:52]	matey	why does linux, a non-free kernel, enjoy such privilege?
[06:52]	matey	because the fsf has allowed linux to make gnu its bitch
[06:52]	matey	they didnt even realise they were doing it
[06:53]	matey	im not just talking about the special pleading in the naming scheme, thats just the most glaring example ive found recently (this week)
[06:53]	matey	i mean everything they do bows to the linux kernel
[06:54]	matey	might as well be the fs/lf free software slash linux foundation
[06:54]	matey	oh i guess the linux foundation would stop that with their trademark
[06:55]	matey	another funny thing, and this makes me laugh
[06:55]	matey	nah, fuck it, ill save that one
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[08:33]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, April 27, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[08:33]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[08:33]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[08:33]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[08:33]	TR News	Completely Remove Snap from Ubuntu Linux [Tutorial] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164235
[08:33]	TR Bot	 Completely Remove Snap from Ubuntu Linux [Tutorial] | Tux Machines
[08:34]	TR News	Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
[08:34]	TR Bot	 Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights
[08:46]	TR News	Smap: Alternate Network Scanner of Nmap by shodan.io [Examples] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164236
[08:46]	TR Bot	 Smap: Alternate Network Scanner of Nmap by shodan.io [Examples] | Tux Machines
[08:48]	TR News	"I approached copying my PGP key to paper in short bursts: each day I copied just three lines, and that took me from 10 to 15 minutes" http://ariis.it/static/articles/handwritten-pgp-key/page.html |
[08:48]	TR Bot	 fa - backup your PGP key with pencil and paper
[08:48]	TR News	"I wanted to write about DNS for three reasons" https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/26/new-zine--how-dns-works-/ | Source: Julia Evans
[08:48]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jvns.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/26/new-zine--how-dns-works-/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/26/new-zine--how-dns-works-/
[08:48]	TR Bot	 New zine: How DNS Works!
[08:48]	TR News	"As it was recently the 40th Anniversary of the ZX Spectrum 48k, the first computer I had, and the reason I got into programming in the first place" https://blog.steve.fi/porting_a_game_from_cp_m_to_the_zx_spectrum_48k.html | Source: Steve Kemp
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[08:48]	TR Bot	 Porting a game from CP/M to the ZX Spectrum 48k
[08:49]	TR News	Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
[08:52]	TR News	"A good example of open source is Linux, which became the largest open-source software project in the world.A good example of open source is Linux, which became the largest open-source software project in the world." https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-technology-logistics-sector | Source: Ubuntu
[08:52]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-technology-logistics-sector https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-technology-logistics-sector
[08:52]	TR Bot	source technology in logistics sector | Ubuntu
[08:53]	TR News	"If you install Ubuntu 22.04's server edition onto a server that has one or more network ports that you aren't using" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu2204SlowServerBoot | Source: uni Toronto
[08:53]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu2204SlowServerBoot https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu2204SlowServerBoot
[08:53]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/Ubuntu2204SlowServerBoot
[08:53]	TR News	"Finally, Pop! started putting out their own Linux kernels, which is decidedly a good thing. But their upgrade cycle is very odd and makes very little sense to me." https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/4/pop-goes-the-distro-and-fiber-internet-for-the-win | Source: Jay Little
[08:53]	TR Bot	 Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Pop! Goes the Distro And Fiber Internet For The Win
[08:54]	TR News	"Up until now, weve recommended users stick with the 4GB and 8GB versions of the Raspberry Pi 4 when running Ubuntu Desktop." https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-for-raspberry-pi-ubuntu-22-04-lts | Source: Ubuntu
[08:54]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-for-raspberry-pi-ubuntu-22-04-lts https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-for-raspberry-pi-ubuntu-22-04-lts
[08:54]	TR Bot	new for Raspberry Pi with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS? | Ubuntu
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[08:55]	TR News	"Programming the system was fairly straightforward. Whenever a switch/button is active" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/26/this-realistic-control-panel-takes-the-flight-simulator-experience-to-new-heights/ | Source: Arduino
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[08:55]	TR Bot	 This realistic control panel takes the flight simulator experience to new heights | Arduino Blog
[08:55]	TR News	"Why multiple Pis? Well, a couple of reasons. First of all, I wanted some diversity in my radio receivers" https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/04/27/thermo/ | Source: Rachel
[08:55]	TR Bot	 My Raspberry Pi-based temperature tracking project
[08:56]	TR News	"Today we release Krita 5.0.6. This is a bug fix release with two crash fixes" https://krita.org/en/item/krita-5-0-6-released/ | Source: Krita
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[08:56]	TR Bot	 Krita 5.0.6 Released | Krita
[08:57]	TR News	"Today, we release the first stable version of the 0.4.7.x series fixing several major bugfixes, several major features and, finally after years of work, congestion control." https://forum.torproject.net/t/stable-release-0-4-7-7/3108 |
[08:57]	TR Bot	 Stable release 0.4.7.7 - Tor Release Announcement - Tor Project Forum
[08:57]	TR News	"30,000 New Users Signed Up for Mastodon" https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7npd7/30000-new-users-signed-up-for-mastodon-after-elon-musk-bought-twitter | Source: Vice
[08:57]	TR Bot	 30,000 New Users Signed Up for Mastodon After Elon Musk Bought Twitter
[08:58]	TR News	"Of all the grand ideas that Elon Musk has for Twitter, the one that hes pitched most fervently is making the platforms algorithms open source" https://thenextweb.com/news/what-are-elon-musk-plans-to-open-source-twitter-algorithms | Source: The Next Web
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[08:58]	TR Bot	 Open-sourcing Twitter's algorithms is more complex than Musk implies
[08:58]	TR News	Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
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[08:59]	TR News	"At Browserling, we're huge fans of single file self-contained applications." https://catonmat.net/single-file-applications | Source: Peteris Krumins
[08:59]	TR Bot	 Single File Applications
[08:59]	TR News	"As soon as I finished writing up the previous blog post, I was made aware of the announcement of a new programming language named Hare." https://briancallahan.net/blog/20220427.html | Source: Brian Callahan
[08:59]	TR Bot	 Brian Robert Callahan
[08:59]	TR News	"During my winternship, I used the findings from recent Go audits to make several improvements to go-fuzz, a coverage-based fuzzer for projects written in Go" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/04/26/improving-the-state-of-go-fuzz/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
[08:59]	TR Bot	 Improving the state of go-fuzz | Trail of Bits Blog
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[09:00]	TR News	"For this work, we approach the problem from another perspective. A list of real-world vulnerabilities already exists: the CVEs" https://blog.quarkslab.com/commit-level-vulnerability-dataset.html | Source: Quarkslab
[09:00]	TR Bot	 Commit Level Vulnerability Dataset
[09:00]	TR News	"One solution is to use Docker. The containerization tool runs applications in an isolated system and manages dependencies." https://earthly.dev/blog/python-docker/ | Source: Earthly
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[09:00]	TR Bot	 Running Python on Docker - Earthly Blog
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[09:06]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D572.jpg
[09:06]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D215.jpg
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[09:07]	TR News	"For sure is always a place on Gopher, which just been born. Look at the shinny new BBC news text proxy" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
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[09:08]	TR News	what I want in a graphical environment gemini://bvnf.space/blog/010_want.gmi
[09:09]	TR News	"Zemmour (far-right) instantly called to vote for Le Pen, after mocking the idiots on the left for the immediacy of their call to vote for Macron." gemini://dece.space/notes/20220427-elections-round-2.gmi
[09:10]	TR News	"If you are writing about a new idea, mechanic, or technology, start with it" https://idiomdrottning.org/reverse-your-articles | Source: Idiomdrottning
[09:10]	TR Bot	 Reverse your articles
[09:10]	TR News	"Hey, back in 2016 I decided to get rid of trackers on my website, and Gravatar was one of them for the comment section" https://www.davidrevoy.com/article591/cat-bird-fenestar-abstract-avatar-generators | Source: David Revoy
[09:10]	TR Bot	 My Avatar Generators: Cats, Birds, Fenestars and Abstracts - David Revoy
[09:10]	TR News	"Overall, I enjoy using Sony's current top-end APS-C model for my video work and occasional photography." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/few-things-i-hate-about-my-sony-a6600 | Source: Jeff Geerling
[09:10]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jeffgeerling.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/few-things-i-hate-about-my-sony-a6600 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/few-things-i-hate-about-my-sony-a6600
[09:10]	TR Bot	 A few of the things I hate about my Sony a6600 | Jeff Geerling
[09:11]	TR News	Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights
[09:15]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/irc-log-270422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/28/irc-log-270422/
[09:15]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 | Techrights
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[09:25]	TR News	"The European Union is set to launch a drive to translate more scholarly research into local languages using artificial intelligence technology." https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/french-push-ai-auto-translation-european-research | Source: Times Higher Education
[09:25]	TR Bot	 French want AI translation of European research | Times Higher Education (THE)
[09:25]	TR News	Microsoft tries to distract from this https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/nine-microsoft-vulnerabilities-in-top-15-exploited-routinely-in-2021.html | Source: IT Wire
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[09:25]	TR Bot	- Nine Microsoft vulnerabilities in top 15 exploited routinely in 2021
[09:25]	TR News	"Microsoft has issued a long write-up about flaws that could lead to escalation of privilege on Linux systems, which it has collectively called Nimbuspwn" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/microsoft-post-on-linux-vulnerability-omits-essential-detail.html | Source: IT Wire
[09:25]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/microsoft-post-on-linux-vulnerability-omits-essential-detail.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/microsoft-post-on-linux-vulnerability-omits-essential-detail.html
[09:25]	TR Bot	- Microsoft post on Linux vulnerability omits essential detail
[09:26]	TR News	Rumours about the criminals (Microsoft) https://variety.com/vip/why-private-equity-not-microsoft-is-likely-circling-ubisoft-1235242030/ | Source: Variety
[09:26]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/vip/why-private-equity-not-microsoft-is-likely-circling-ubisoft-1235242030/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://variety.com/vip/why-private-equity-not-microsoft-is-likely-circling-ubisoft-1235242030/
[09:26]	TR Bot	Private Equity, Not Microsoft, Is Likely Circling Ubisoft - Variety
[09:26]	TR News	"Several private equity firms including Blackstone Inc. and KKR & Co. have been studying the French business, according to the people, who asked not to be identified" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-22/assassin-s-creed-publisher-ubisoft-said-to-draw-buyout-interest | Source: Bloomberg
[09:26]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[09:26]	TR News	"All of this has led to a long term stock slide down from a high of $23 a share in 2018 to now just $9 today." https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/04/26/if-ubisoft-is-selling-could-microsoft-or-sony-be-buying/ | Source: Forbes
[09:26]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/04/26/if-ubisoft-is-selling-could-microsoft-or-sony-be-buying/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/04/26/if-ubisoft-is-selling-could-microsoft-or-sony-be-buying/
[09:26]	TR Bot	 If Ubisoft Is Selling, Could Microsoft Or Sony Be Buying?
[09:26]	TR News	"It's unknown how a potential acquisition of Ubisoft may affect its games, if at all" https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-reportedly-being-targeted-for-acquisition | Source: IGN
[09:26]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ign.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-reportedly-being-targeted-for-acquisition https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-reportedly-being-targeted-for-acquisition
[09:26]	TR Bot	Reportedly Being Targeted for Acquisition - IGN
[09:27]	TR News	"Alexa has always had aspirations to be a type of digital butler, and today, its getting closer to that goal" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/27/23044873/amazon-alexa-person-package-detection-video-doorbells-security-cameras | Source: The Verge
[09:27]	TR Bot	 Amazons Alexa can announce when theres a person or package at your Ring or Nest camera - The Verge
[09:27]	TR News	"The Belgian bill is a reaction to the Constitutional Courts annulment of the countrys indiscriminate data retention law." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/belgium-what-geographically-targeted-data-retention-would-really-mean/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
[09:27]	TR Bot	 Belgium: What geographically targeted data retention would really mean Patrick Breyer
[09:29]	TR News	"A man was arrested in Denmark on Wednesday on suspicion of violating anti-terrorism laws by allegedly promoting the Islamic State group on social control media" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/denmark-arrests-man-promotion-social-media-84340283 | Source: ABC
[09:29]	TR Bot	 Denmark arrests man over promotion of IS on social media - ABC News
[09:39]	TR News	"Vampire appliances are appliances which continue to suck energy even they are turned off, because they enter a standby mode rather than fully powering down." https://www.wise-geek.com/what-are-vampire-appliances.htm |
[09:39]	TR Bot	 What are Vampire Appliances? (with pictures)
[09:39]	TR News	"Although estimates vary, vampire energy consumption can account for as much as 40 percent of a buildings energy use and associated monthly electricity bill." https://www.wired.com/story/vampire-energy-climate-environment-earth-day/ | Source: Wired
[09:39]	TR Bot	Energy' Is Sucking the Life Out of Our Planet | WIRED
[09:39]	TR News	"All of which involve the trust buying ever-increasing amounts of BTC, pumping the "price" ever higher, attracting ever more speculators to these trades" https://blog.dshr.org/2022/04/grayscale-bitcoin-trust.html | Source: David Rosenthal
[09:39]	TR Bot	 DSHR's Blog: Grayscale Bitcoin Trust
[09:42]	TR News	Nature: "Python scripts used for the spatial analyses are permanently available" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04664-7 | Source: Nature
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[09:42]	TR Bot	global reptile assessment highlights shared conservation needs of tetrapods | Nature
[09:43]	TR News	Understanding the Power of Propaganda (...and Big Techs Execution of it) https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/propaganda:ab RobBraxmanTech also addresses youtube
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[09:43]	TR Bot	 Understanding the Power of Propaganda (...and Big Tech's Execution of it)
[09:44]	TR News	Mastodon coverage in The Fail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10759621/Thousands-disgruntled-Twitter-users-flocking-rival-social-network-Mastodon.html
[09:44]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: dailymail.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10759621/Thousands-disgruntled-Twitter-users-flocking-rival-social-network-Mastodon.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10759621/Thousands-disgruntled-Twitter-users-flocking-rival-social-network-Mastodon.html
[09:44]	TR Bot	 Thousands of disgruntled Twitter users are flocking to rival social network 'Mastodon' | Daily Mail Online
[09:45]	TR News	Gulag Accused of 'Creepy' Speech Policing - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/04/26/0944258 Source: soylentnews
[09:45]	TR Bot	 Google Accused of 'Creepy' Speech Policing - SoylentNews
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[10:04]	TR News	"Its a combination that makes him one of the most significant figures in the history of technology, business and media" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musks-twitter-takeover-gives-new-type-power-rcna26211 | Source: NBC
[10:04]	TR Bot	 Elon Musks Twitter takeover gives him a new type of power
[10:05]	TR News	"Can Elon Musk break Twitter? I hope so" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/27/opinion/elon-musk-twitter.html | Source: New York Times
[10:05]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/27/opinion/elon-musk-twitter.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/27/opinion/elon-musk-twitter.html
[10:05]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Elon Musk Got Twitter Because He Gets Twitter - The New York Times
[10:05]	TR News	"Platinum Members include Microsoft, Oracle, and Facebook (now Meta)" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and | Source: Bryan Lunduke
[10:05]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: substack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and
[10:05]	TR Bot	 6 Dirty Secrets of the Linux and Open Source Industry
[10:05]	TR News	"I don't believe that financial gain is Musk's goal" https://matt-rickard.com/improving-twitter/ | Source: Matt Rickard
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[10:05]	TR Bot	 Improving Twitter
[10:06]	TR News	"Even a seemingly insignificant error rate of the censorship algorithms of, for example, 0.1% leads to the unjustified censorship" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/partial-success-against-internet-censorship-top-eu-court-severely-restricts-upload-filters/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Partial success against Internet censorship: Top EU Court severely restricts upload filters Patrick Breyer
[10:09]	TR News	"This would include adults who took children abroad to carry out the marriage" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61228240 | Source: BBC
[10:09]	TR Bot	 New law raises minimum marriage age to 18 in England and Wales - BBC News
[10:09]	TR News	"A separate forced marriage law, introduced in 2014, made it a criminal offence punishable by up to seven years in prison to force someone of any age to marry" https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/law/956554/minimum-marriage-age-england-and-wales |
[10:09]	TR Bot	 Why the minimum marriage age is being raised in England and Wales | The Week UK
[10:10]	TR News	"In a 90-page motion to vacate the conviction, prosecutors said what appears to be a chance coincidence that the defendant, Thomas Raynard James" https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-vacates-life-sentence-wrongfully-convicted-man-84348384 | Source: ABC
[10:10]	TR Bot	 Judge vacates life sentence of wrongfully convicted man - ABC News
[10:11]	TR News	"When KrebsOnSecurity recently explored how cybercriminals were using hacked email accounts at police departments worldwide to obtain warrantless Emergency Data Requests (EDRs)" https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/04/fighting-fake-edrs-with-credit-ratings-for-police/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[10:11]	TR Bot	 Fighting Fake EDRs With Credit Ratings for Police Krebs on Security
[10:15]	TR News	"Electric vehicles are slowly but surely snatching market share from their combustion-engined forbearers." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/the-state-of-play-in-solid-state-batteries/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:15]	TR Bot	State Of Play In Solid State Batteries | Hackaday
[10:16]	TR News	"The world's leading anti-piracy coalition ACE continues to expand with beIN as its newest member." https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-coalition-ace-gets-bigger-stronger-and-more-effective-220427/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[10:16]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-coalition-ace-gets-bigger-stronger-and-more-effective-220427/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-coalition-ace-gets-bigger-stronger-and-more-effective-220427/
[10:16]	TR Bot	Coalition ACE Gets Bigger, Stronger and More Effective * TorrentFreak
[10:16]	TR News	"Nintendo's highly anticipated 'Mario Movie' will be delayed until spring 2023, so in the meantime, fans are posting rumors and speculation on social media." https://torrentfreak.com/nintendos-mario-movie-leaks-dmca-used-to-suppress-spoiler-discussion-220427/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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[10:16]	TR Bot	'Mario Movie' Leaks: DMCA Used To Suppress Spoiler Discussion * TorrentFreak
[10:16]	TR News	"CNC Engraver" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/no-laser-cnc-engraver-is-something-new-under-the-sun/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:16]	TR Bot	CNC Engraver Is Something New Under The Sun | Hackaday
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[10:57]	TR News	"Its very early days for CAD Sketcher, a new parametric CAD add-on for Blender by [hlorus], but it looks very promising" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/cad-sketcher-its-parametric-cad-for-blender/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:57]	TR Bot	Sketcher, Its Parametric CAD For Blender | Hackaday
[10:59]	TR News	Water https://therevelator.org/slow-solutions-gies/ | Source: The Revelator
[10:59]	TR Bot	 Why We Need Slow Solutions to Solve Our Water Problems The Revelator
[10:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 248.95
● Apr 28
[11:05]	tpmd	Government agencies cutting costs where it hurts, or the consequences of using cheapest closed source software: bbcnewsd73hkzno2ini43t4gblxvycyac5aw4gnv7t2rccijh7745uqd.onion/programmes/m0016t20
[11:05]	tpmd	entertaining, if it weren't so tragic
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[11:09]	DaemonFC	I just got a phishing email that says it's from Microsoft about unusual sign in activity.
[11:09]	DaemonFC	They say that someone logged into my account using the "chrom" browser.
[11:21]	tpmd	it could be a clever filter to prevent wasting resources on the wrong (knowledgeable, or just not drunk enough) targets.
[11:26]	TR News	"As the world becomes more and more digital, there are still a few holdouts from the analog world weve left behind." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/digital-to-analog-in-the-darkroom/ | Source: Hackaday
[11:26]	TR Bot	To Analog In The Darkroom | Hackaday
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[11:45]	TR News	"Metaverse" is pure BS. Facebook is collapsing and manipulating the media into hyping up fantasy, vapourware. https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/27/can-you-truly-own-anything-in-the-metaverse/ | Source: Counter Punch
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[11:45]	TR Bot	You Truly Own Anything in the Metaverse? - CounterPunch.org
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[11:47]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/toyota-keeps-donating-to-republicans-who-supported-the-coup-attempt/
[11:47]	TR Bot	 Toyota keeps donating to Republicans who supported the coup attempt. BaronHK's Rants
[11:47]	TR News	Canvas https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/canvas-and-other-online-learning-platforms-arent-perfect-just-ask-students | Source: EFF
[11:47]	TR Bot	 Canvas and other Online Learning Platforms Aren't PerfectJust Ask Students | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:48]	TR News	"counterspeech" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/amidst-invasion-ukraine-platforms-continue-erase-critical-war-crimes-documentation | Source: EFF
[11:48]	TR Bot	 Amidst Invasion of Ukraine, Platforms Continue to Erase Critical War Crimes Documentation | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:49]	TR News	"Field drug tests are awful. Theyre insanely unreliable." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/field-drug-test-turns-diesel-to-meth-takes-away-six-weeks-of-the-truck-drivers-freedom/ | Source: Techdirt
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[11:49]	TR Bot	Drug Test Turns Diesel To Meth, Takes Away Six Weeks Of The Truck Drivers Freedom | Techdirt
[11:49]	TR News	"Major ISPs fought hard to remove this provision, mostly because theyve engaged in discrimination based on income status for many years." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/what-low-income-people-will-lose-deadlocked-fcc | Source: EFF
[11:49]	TR Bot	 What Low-Income People Will Lose with a Deadlocked FCC | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:49]	TR News	Sega https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/sega-does-a-nintendo-company-pulls-older-sonic-games-ahead-of-anthology-release/ | Source: Techdirt
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[11:49]	TR Bot	Does A Nintendo: Company Pulls Older Sonic Games Ahead Of Anthology Release | Techdirt
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[11:51]	TR News	Stop bailing out oligarchs by STEALING from citizens https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/27/sanders-pushes-biden-nix-amazons-federal-contracts-over-illegal-anti-union-activity | Source: Common Dreams
[11:51]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/27/sanders-pushes-biden-nix-amazons-federal-contracts-over-illegal-anti-union-activity https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/27/sanders-pushes-biden-nix-amazons-federal-contracts-over-illegal-anti-union-activity
[11:51]	TR Bot	 Sanders Pushes Biden to Nix Amazon's Federal Contracts Over 'Illegal Anti-Union Activity'
[11:54]	DaemonFC	"If Toyota manages to help topple the legitimate American government, they'll also manage to ruin one of the most important markets in the world for their product. So much for the Japanese being good at playing the long game."
[11:55]	TR News	Don't let corporations conflate social cohesion with commercial impunity
[11:56]	TR News	DeSantis https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/27/240930/ | Source: Counter Punch
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[11:56]	TR Bot	DeSantis and the Charade of Free Speech in America - CounterPunch.org
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[12:05]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I responded to my dad on Facebook:
[12:05]	DaemonFC	"Hi again, dad. What did you ever change listening to that (dead) idiot Limbaugh. You say God forgives all who get on their knees and beg forgiveness. Well, it's a good place for you to start. While you're confessing all of your wrongs, remember to throw in hating people for not looking like you do. I'm pretty sure that's a big one. Also, the entire garage full of pornography. Let's see. What else?"
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[12:08]	DaemonFC	"They canned Limbaugh's voice and play clips of him bitching about things from beyond the grave, which is sad, and a wee bit creepy. Most of his listeners are probably too damned stupid to even realize he's dead and ranting about a white grievance that happened 50 years ago. Gee, what a wonderful way to be remembered?"
[12:09]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: lol
[12:09]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: was this in public?
[12:09]	schestowitz	or direct message?
[12:09]	DaemonFC	Yes.
[12:09]	DaemonFC	Public.
[12:09]	schestowitz	hahga
[12:10]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: repent your sins
[12:10]	schestowitz	marry a "nice girl"
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[12:11]	TR Bot	 No, Fauci, a Pandemic Can't End in One Country Only. You Taught Me That.
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[12:14]	schestowitz	wb, matey
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[12:15]	matey	the other day: thanks for letting me know openbsd is for servers, not my laptops matey
[12:15]	matey	i mean that was trolling
[12:15]	matey	because you already said that in september
[12:15]	matey	so i couldnt have "informed" you of what you already knew
[12:15]	schestowitz	I considered openbsd for my laptop
[12:16]	schestowitz	but that laptop, mas it turned out, was not just for storage
[12:16]	schestowitz	as I installed many things on it
[12:16]	schestowitz	like obs
[12:16]	schestowitz	on the server side, this month we buildm techrights on devuan
[12:16]	DaemonFC	Me on Facebook: "Never buy a car that had a woman's name on the title unless a mechanic goes over it. You will spend thousands trying to catch up on the backlog of maintenance and repairs. Plus, they always end up with like 80% of the really interesting car damage like curbs and mail boxes."
[12:16]	schestowitz	but did not deploy
[12:17]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz> but did not deploy
[12:17]	DaemonFC	Interesting you should say that.
[12:17]	DaemonFC	I got ANOTHER recall notice from KIA.
[12:17]	DaemonFC	Now the engine may explode and the airbags might not deploy in a crash.
[12:17]	DaemonFC	This is getting better.
[12:17]	DaemonFC	Good luck, John.
[12:18]	matey	  schestowitz  what distro are you on again?   Sep 10 21:05   
[12:18]	DaemonFC	Plus, they're being sued because almost all of the cars they make have really shitty engines that burn oil right away.
[12:18]	matey	  schestowitz  I was always curious about openbsd   Sep 10 21:05   
[12:18]	matey	  schestowitz  some friends use it on servers   Sep 10 21:05   
[12:18]	matey	  schestowitz  but in terms of practical benefits over gnu/linux distros, not much to be found, maybe just smaller footprint and experience gain   Sep 10 21:06   
[12:19]	matey	im "pro bsd" but the only reason people use it is just "smaller footprint" and "experience gain"
[12:19]	matey	theres really no other reason it exists...
[12:19]	matey	i like the maybe though
[12:19]	matey	"maybe just smaller footprint and experience gain"
[12:19]	matey	sort of like "fig is sort of back, albeit too shy to admit that he wants to be back after insulting a whole bunch of us (RMS and Oliva too) in a totally unwarranted fashion"
[12:19]	matey	watch for the maybes and sort ofs
[12:20]	matey	"fig is sort of back" <- that was completely made up
[12:20]	matey	oliva apologised for helping you throw me under the bus you know
[12:21]	matey	but you said i "insulted him" and it was "a totally unwarranted fashion"
[12:21]	DaemonFC	"Several bills were passed to address statewide teacher shortages during Illinois' most recent legislative session. Today, April 27, Gov. JB Pritzker signs one into law."
[12:21]	matey	watch for the maybes and sort ofs
[12:21]	DaemonFC	I said, on Facebook: "It should require everyone at the DMV to go fill in as a substitute teacher for two months for free to pay taxpayers for the two months sitting on their ass while we couldn't go in and get our vehicle papers done."
[12:21]	matey	you know when  you constantly tell little lies and bullshit about bsd...
[12:21]	matey	you reveal the threat it poses to you
[12:22]	matey	i mean, it SHOULDNT pose any threat at all
[12:22]	matey	but so many people in here use it, and know that " schestowitz  but in terms of practical benefits over gnu/linux distros, not much to be found, maybe just smaller footprint and experience gain" is bullshit
[12:22]	matey	theyre using it to get away from things youve already complained about (or pretended to care about) 
[12:22]	matey	like microsoft taking over linux
[12:22]	matey	or systemd (which you never cared about)
[12:23]	matey	"in terms of practical benefits over gnu/linux distros, not much to be found"
[12:23]	matey	thats some bullshit right there.
[12:23]	matey	there are no real practical benefits to bsd, says mr pro-bsd
[12:23]	matey	you know it follows the same pattern you mentioned about microsoft trolls who damned linux with faint praise
[12:24]	matey	years and years ago
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[12:24]	matey	"oh i tried linux, dont get me wrong, its good BUT"
[12:24]	matey	its funny, you spent a year telling people i left because of an argument with mincer-- which was insignificant except as a trigger for something more important
[12:25]	matey	 To me, personally, this really came out of nowhere, and not forthe first time. IIRC, the first time was, I argued that a BSDlicence would be a regression. (Because it's what companies thatexploit "free labour" code prefer us to use)                       Dec 21 18:39
[12:25]	matey	yeah, i wrote an article about an operating system
[12:25]	matey	then you started writing bs about a license in another article.
[12:26]	matey	and i said i was leaving in august
[12:26]	matey	in august
[12:26]	matey	but according to you, EVERYTHING STARTED with some exchange in december
[12:26]	matey	even though i wrote an actual article about leaving in august.
[12:26]	matey	and you told me "oh thats a misunderstanding"
[12:27]	DaemonFC	Some of the reason for things like systemd that depend heavily on Linux-only functionality is to harass the other *nix operating systems and hinder their compatibility. GNOME has decided that they don't care about broad compatibility and will lean heavily on systemd.
[12:27]	DaemonFC	It used to work fine on all sorts of non-Linux systems.
[12:27]	matey	but then you told people here i was being "flippant"
[12:27]	matey	you also said you had nothing to do with the exchange with mincer...
[12:27]	matey	that was another lie.
[12:28]	matey	mincer was no different than usual. extremely technical and a little snarky, but thats not a crime
[12:28]	matey	you claimed NOTHING TO DO WITH ME! but that was a bit of a rewrite.
[12:29]	matey	i mean you were the one implying that the only reason to have a reaction was imagination and racism.
[12:29]	matey	i mean my diet for the past 6 months is about 90% asian
[12:29]	matey	no sensitivities to any of it
[12:30]	matey	i eat thai peppers, scotch bonnets, ghost peppers, i love high scoville ratings-- no problem
[12:31]	matey	but somehow implying my argument is racist and inserting THAT into the conversation is "NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!"
[12:31]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/trending/scam-alert-police-warn-of-texts-calls-threatening-to-kill-family-members/
[12:31]	TR Bot	 Scam alert: Police warn of texts, calls threatening to kill family members | WGN-TV
[12:31]	DaemonFC	"Man, I liked them better when they were Microsoft or the IRS or saying they found my car on the Mexican border with blood and cocaine in it.
[12:31]	DaemonFC	When they did the last one I started pretending to be Walter White in a monologue and confessing to everything Walter did in the series. And I don't think they understood me because they let me get to like Season 4 before they hung up."
[12:31]	matey	it wasnt about mincer at all.
[12:32]	matey	i just felt ganged up on, because you were trying to fan flames in an exchange that was (my fault as much as anyones) pedantic and silly.
[12:32]	matey	but that wasnt mincers fault-- you were trolling.
[12:32]	matey	i was trying to relate a personal experience
[12:32]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I realized when the Indian guy on the phone asked my name and I said "Heisenberg" and he started calling me that, that I could have some fun with this.
[12:33]	matey	like your imaginary experience with bsd, except not imagined.
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[12:33]	matey	heres what actually happened: before august, it was all benefit-of-the-doubt and "assuming good faith"
[12:33]	matey	sure, id had doubts but brushed them off
[12:33]	matey	like when i did that stuff about debian stats and you said "can i use this" and i was like "sure"
[12:34]	matey	it was meant as a starting point-- not to be conclusive
[12:34]	matey	you invented a conclusion, put words in my mouth, my reaction over here was "wtf just happened"
[12:34]	matey	but i was like whatever
[12:34]	matey	august was the big wtf moment.
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[12:35]	matey	of course you know i was talking about SOFTWARE, not a license
[12:35]	matey	you made it about the license.
[12:35]	matey	as if theyre the same thing
[12:35]	matey	then i said "fuck this, im out" and youre like "that was a misunderstanding"
[12:35]	matey	so im like (dopey dopey) oh i guess ill... i dont know, not leave yet
[12:36]	matey	its always been like this though
[12:37]	matey	finally in december i realised i was definitely being used.
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[12:37]	TR Bot	 'Liquid Gold, Mate!': Activists' Spoof on Big Pharma's Vaccine Greed Nails It
[12:37]	matey	yes it was triggered by a very unimportant (attempted) conversation with mincer, but that was incidental-- trivia-- meaningless.
[12:38]	matey	it was the way you inserted yourself into that exchanged, tried to use it against me, after EVERYTHING ELSE
[12:38]	matey	and all i wanted to do was leave
[12:38]	matey	couldnt leave in august-- no, you had to lie and say it was a misunderstanding
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[12:38]	matey	it wasnt. it was an understanding.
[12:38]	matey	i understood just fine.
[12:38]	matey	so i tried to leave (and yes i was angry) in december
[12:39]	matey	couldnt do that either...
[12:39]	matey	no, you had to punish me for it.
[12:39]	matey	making things up and lying to people
[12:39]	matey	thatll teach someone to stop helping you for free after years (years) of doing so
[12:39]	schestowitz	that's untrue actually
[12:39]	schestowitz	(sorry, I was in another channel and posting links, catching up here now)
[12:40]	matey	oh fuck you, you compulsive lying shit.
[12:40]	schestowitz	?
[12:40]		*grey (~144fdf9c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights
[12:40]	schestowitz	No, I was posting daily links
[12:40]	matey	no i mean about the past few years
[12:40]	matey	not two minutes ago
[12:40]	schestowitz	and I said hi and then you just started getting all upset
[12:40]	matey	oh im not upset
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[12:41]	matey	ive had more than a year to process this.
[12:41]	matey	its cool
[12:41]	matey	techrights is entirely about 15 years of seeing what you can get people to do for you for free
[12:41]	schestowitz	wb,you are quoting very old things
[12:41]	matey	i mean its a personal blog sure
[12:41]	matey	very old things
[12:41]	matey	not old to me
[12:41]	schestowitz	from a time when you wrote many things against me
[12:42]	matey	yes they were about things you did, which were INCREDIBLY dishonest and manipulative of you
[12:42]	matey	including lying to stallman about me.
[12:42]	matey	a personal hero
[12:42]	schestowitz	matey: you are also misframing this
[12:42]	schestowitz	I have no gain from this
[12:42]	matey	no.
[12:42]	matey	oh you know what your gain is?
[12:42]	schestowitz	I'm working for free just like everyone ewlse
[12:42]	matey	yeah
[12:42]	schestowitz	in fact, worse, I pay bills
[12:42]	matey	yeah
[12:42]	schestowitz	and when the database goes titsup I need to stay up overnight to fix it
[12:43]	schestowitz	sites don't "just run"
[12:43]	matey	i mean to your credit, you actually built this thing.
[12:43]	schestowitz	not even "on the clown"
[12:43]	matey	you didnt buy it like elon and twitter
[12:43]	schestowitz	all yoru work is now in gemini too
[12:43]	schestowitz	all of it
[12:43]	matey	but if twitter costs him more than it makes him
[12:43]	matey	the purpose is clear
[12:43]	schestowitz	twitter was a mistake
[12:43]	matey	no, it serves his ego
[12:43]	schestowitz	I mean, sure, it was a different thing 7 years ago
[12:43]	matey	what you "get" out of techrights is twofold
[12:44]	matey	first, you get to spend years saying how techrights saved gnu/linux
[12:44]	matey	which is nonsense
[12:44]	schestowitz	id I say that??
[12:44]	matey	second, you get to spend years getting people to do things for you.
[12:44]	schestowitz	false
[12:44]	matey	i mean theres nothing wrong with asking people to volunteer.
[12:44]	matey	true.
[12:44]	schestowitz	I spend a lot of hours for people
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[12:44]	schestowitz	for projects
[12:44]	matey	yeah
[12:44]	matey	for you.
[12:44]	schestowitz	for no gain
[12:44]	schestowitz	and have for 20 years
[12:44]	matey	because other people can do things for their ego
[12:44]	matey	but not you. thats impossible.
[12:44]	matey	the problem, really, the main problem
[12:45]	matey	is that you get people to do things for you by bullshitting
[12:45]	schestowitz	you could say corbyn and sanders do it for "ego"
[12:45]	matey	but not you.
[12:45]	matey	this is a public service.
[12:45]	schestowitz	but that's implying ego is some kind of currency
[12:45]	matey	lying to people on behalf of systemd and against bsd.
[12:45]	schestowitz	I never boosted systemd
[12:45]	matey	no, that wasnt subtle enuogh
[12:46]	schestowitz	when we first spoke (email) it was about sdystemd bashing
[12:46]	schestowitz	you asked me, why not expose systemd agenda
[12:46]	matey	and you pretended to give a shit
[12:46]	schestowitz	and I responded, showing you we had done it many times
[12:46]	matey	then you posted a year or two later
[12:46]	schestowitz	but were focused on things like patents
[12:46]	matey	you were "neutral or apathetic" about it.
[12:46]	matey	in an article.
[12:46]	schestowitz	quote/link?
[12:46]	schestowitz	maybe I was many years ago
[12:46]	schestowitz	like 4+
[12:47]	schestowitz	many were, too
[12:47]	matey	no, this was a year or two after i started helping.
[12:47]	schestowitz	tyhe latest FUD attack from Microsoft is networkd iirc
[12:47]	schestowitz	they now call systemd  "linux|"
[12:47]	matey	the one with the picture of tux being sent to the red hat electric chair
[12:47]	schestowitz	when it suits them
[12:48]	matey	which i never intended you to post as an article, the image was copyrighted
[12:48]	schestowitz	matey: tux was being recharged by "elon"
[12:48]	matey	the thing im never going to forgive you for of course was lying to stallman.
[12:48]	schestowitz	I think johns is to blame, too
[12:49]	matey	YES HE IS!
[12:49]	schestowitz	rms was being put under intense pressure
[12:49]	schestowitz	and you called john some named
[12:49]	schestowitz	so it became personal
[12:49]	matey	i was told he was part of the coup
[12:49]	matey	and you threw me under the bus for that.
[12:49]	matey	schestowitz__ *figosdev no longer writes for us. On many things I agree with him, but it always disturbed me that he urged you to step down* (also some of the things he wrote about the FSF, a sort of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater"). Jan 04
[12:49]	matey	thats what you said to stallman about me.
[12:49]	schestowitz	and at the end oliva convinced rms to not mind john (IIRC)
[12:50]	matey	tom said about that lie "Not only is it ancient history, with no bearing on the present, but you had fully explained the context previously. For him to bring this up now is simply a smear"
[12:50]	schestowitz	I always told you asking rms to step down was a bad idea
[12:50]	schestowitz	not just for tact reason s
[12:50]	schestowitz	but for pragmatic reasons
[12:50]	matey	I always told you asking rms to step down was a bad idea <- another fabrication
[12:50]	schestowitz	he should stay and can stay
[12:50]	matey	youve neve saidthat
[12:50]	matey	you understand you have a pathological lying disorder
[12:50]	matey	personally i think its textbook narcissism. but it could be any cluster-b disorder.
[12:50]	schestowitz	I did tell you it was a bad idea
[12:50]	schestowitz	to tell a person to step down from his org
[12:51]	matey	you lie to people to make them do you what yo uwant
[12:51]	schestowitz	another person I know said that
[12:51]	schestowitz	very confrontational no matter how it is phrased
[12:51]	schestowitz	if someone told me to leave techrights, I'd be offended
[12:51]	schestowitz	RMS did not even express a desire to leave
[12:51]	matey	i only said he should step down as president
[12:51]	matey	and it wasnt a matter of phrasing
[12:51]	schestowitz	unlike some fatigued people who do look for a way out
[12:51]	matey	it was a matter of continuing a line of succession
[12:52]	schestowitz	apparently Mark Shuttleworth
[12:52]	matey	under terms that rms had control over
[12:52]	matey	the fsf had already stagnated for years
[12:52]	matey	everyone here knows it
[12:52]	schestowitz	OK, I see
[12:52]	matey	no, you dont
[12:52]	matey	you just found another angle to take this
[12:52]	matey	this is what you do.
[12:52]	schestowitz	no
[12:52]	matey	yes.
[12:52]	schestowitz	I need to see what you actually said
[12:52]	matey	ou know what i said, you published it
[12:52]	schestowitz	another person said it more crudely
[12:53]	schestowitz	like, "I AM GOING TO REPLACE YOU!"
[12:53]	matey	oh and you mixed the two up and told a personal hero of mine
[12:53]	matey	oops
[12:53]	schestowitz	fsf stagnated
[12:53]	schestowitz	that is true
[12:53]	schestowitz	but rms doing succession plans would not slow it down
[12:53]	matey	and i only said he should step down as president and find a successor
[12:53]	schestowitz	as the stagnation of gnu was for external fators
[12:53]	schestowitz	at the tyime
[12:53]	matey	not from the board
[12:53]	schestowitz	as I see it
[12:54]	schestowitz	and also not keeping up with some threats
[12:54]	schestowitz	and sponsors
[12:54]	schestowitz	which again, were seen as essential for paying salaries
[12:54]	matey	and not based on lies and bullshit (which nadine strossen did a wonderful job of refuting, and she is amazing)
[12:54]	schestowitz	I only know nadine for that mini interview she did
[12:54]	matey	none of what youre saying does anything to address my concerns, they focus entirely on-- this is more "NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!"
[12:54]	schestowitz	and that she met rbg
[12:55]	matey	youll never make a mistake unless its unimportant. you have no (meaingful) flaws.
[12:55]	matey	youll never make an apology about something that matters.
[12:55]	schestowitz	you made some enemies
[12:55]	matey	yeah
[12:55]	matey	and you took their side
[12:55]	schestowitz	and those enemies you made came after me
[12:55]	schestowitz	inc. fossforce
[12:55]	schestowitz	when you called them names
[12:55]	matey	christine is a liar and shill
[12:56]	schestowitz	and anonymously
[12:56]	schestowitz	so they go after me
[12:56]	matey	so this is your explanation of why you lied about me?
[12:56]	matey	wait, the truth is slipping out
[12:56]	matey	you were threatened and sold me out.
[12:56]	matey	so youd have clean hands.
[12:56]	schestowitz	no, I clarified that your views were yours
[12:56]	schestowitz	to rms
[12:56]	schestowitz	to christine
[12:56]	matey	you lied about my views.
[12:56]	schestowitz	I share many views
[12:56]	schestowitz	but we are not the same person
[12:56]	schestowitz	lxr said the same
[12:56]	matey	ill say.
[12:57]	schestowitz	*lxo
[12:57]	matey	yeah i dont trust him either 
[12:57]	matey	whats to trust
[12:57]	schestowitz	christine is not a shill
[12:57]	schestowitz	christine needs a pension
[12:57]	schestowitz	and made some foolish money-grabbing attempts
[12:57]	schestowitz	over the past few years
[12:57]	matey	consisting of shilling and lying
[12:57]	schestowitz	I don't resent her for it
[12:57]	schestowitz	but I am disappointed
[12:57]	matey	just like phipps
[12:58]	matey	 but I am disappointed <- YOURE disappointed
[12:58]	schestowitz	phipps has a lot of money
[12:58]	schestowitz	so he cannot find the same excuses
[12:58]	matey	you lied and and manipulated me for years, but its all about you
[12:58]	matey	lol
[12:58]	schestowitz	matey: disappointed at her
[12:58]	schestowitz	not you
[12:58]	matey	bullshit
[12:58]	matey	you smeared me for a whole year
[12:58]	matey	you must be disappointed
[12:58]	matey	you made things up!
[12:58]	schestowitz	no, you smeared me
[12:58]	schestowitz	and I responded
[12:58]	matey	mmhmm...
[12:59]	matey	darvo.
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[12:59]	schestowitz	the rest was me tying to wrap my head around what had happened
[12:59]	matey	i thought it was just me.
[12:59]	matey	youve done it to other people too
[12:59]	matey	when people leave here, you always act like its a big mystery
[12:59]	matey	people leave communities ALL THE TIME
● Apr 28
[13:00]	matey	its not a mystery, reasons vary
[13:00]	matey	time constraints
[13:00]	matey	families starting
[13:00]	matey	boredom. disappointment. better things to do.
[13:00]	matey	you always act like its a big mystery when someone leaves
[13:00]	matey	no, you smeared me <- this is a rewrite of history
[13:01]	matey	i left you alone for a month while you told people bullshit.
[13:01]	matey	then i defended myself
[13:01]	matey	somehow you get that mixed up
[13:01]	schestowitz	no
[13:01]	schestowitz	you did it prior also
[13:01]	matey	nope
[13:01]	matey	ive been entirely honest about you
[13:01]	schestowitz	you sent me email "articles" calling me names
[13:01]	matey	not smearing
[13:01]	matey	 you sent me email "articles" calling me names <- they were complaining about what you did.
[13:02]	matey	to me. personally. 
[13:02]	matey	i said youdidnt have to publish. you didnt.
[13:02]	matey	how is that smearing?
[13:02]	schestowitz	I never censored you
[13:02]	matey	it wasnt published.
[13:02]	schestowitz	and yet you expect me
[13:02]	matey	it wasnt published!
[13:02]	schestowitz	to agree with everything you say
[13:02]	matey	how can i smear you with a private email sent only to you?
[13:02]	schestowitz	on bsd, systemd etc.
[13:02]	matey	youre delusional.
[13:02]	schestowitz	look what you wrote there
[13:02]	matey	 and yet you expect m <-  to agree with everything you say <- 
[13:02]	matey	no
[13:02]	schestowitz	if it even looked like an article
[13:03]	matey	i expect you to be honest.
[13:03]	matey	i expect you to NOT waffle back and forth to maximise readers
[13:03]	schestowitz	by that you mean,
[13:03]	schestowitz	"I am honest"
[13:03]	matey	by appealing to everyone, on both sides of the fence
[13:03]	matey	i expect you to not keep people on a treadmill of fake progress
[13:03]	schestowitz	"and if you do not share my views, you are dishonest"
[13:03]	matey	saying you care about x and then saying x isnt so bad
[13:03]	matey	 "and if you do not share my views, you are dishonest" <- i mean is that supposed to be a quote
[13:03]	matey	or your imagined interpretation
[13:03]	matey	because i never said that.
[13:04]	schestowitz	no, it's hypothetical
[13:04]	matey	yes
[13:04]	matey	as hypothetical as you being mexican
[13:04]	matey	its complete nonsense
[13:05]	matey	i mean you dont have to be a bsd fanboy
[13:05]	matey	better if youre not really
[13:05]	matey	if you just stopped lying about it
[13:05]	matey	but bsd poses some threat to you
[13:05]	matey	i can guess what it is
[13:05]	matey	you do the same thing to bsd you did to me of course
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[13:05]	schestowitz	bsd licences are easier for companies that hurt us to l;everage against us
[13:05]	schestowitz	that much is true
[13:06]	matey	funny because
[13:06]	matey	microsoft controls linux (gpl)
[13:06]	matey	ibm controls gnu with systemd
[13:06]	matey	to me its about the software more than the licenses, but this DOES NOT mean the licenses dont matter
[13:06]	matey	i understand permissive vs copyleft
[13:06]	matey	its not news to me
[13:06]	matey	im a former fsf member. youre not.
[13:06]	matey	ive given them loads of money
[13:07]	matey	bought lots of stuff
[13:07]	matey	i understand gpl vs bsd license
[13:07]	matey	you keep making it about that
[13:07]	matey	you gloss over the reasons people are interested in the operating system
[13:08]	matey	linux is less free than the openbsd kernel.
[13:08]	matey	linux-libre is free
[13:08]	matey	linux is a non-free kernel.
[13:08]	matey	linux has non-free drivers. openbsd kernel doesnt.
[13:08]	matey	its a WEIRD double standard
[13:08]	matey	hyperbola is fsf-approved
[13:08]	schestowitz	that's "just" the kernel
[13:09]	schestowitz	most of the time it does boring stuff
[13:09]	schestowitz	"boring"
[13:09]	matey	blah blah blah
[13:09]	matey	i talked about pairing the openbsd kernel with gnu
[13:09]	schestowitz	android uses Linux
[13:09]	schestowitz	but it spies a lot
[13:09]	matey	to salvage gnu
[13:09]	schestowitz	Gulag does not like GPL
[13:09]	matey	thats what hyperbola is about
[13:09]	matey	its gets NO LOVE from the fsf at all
[13:09]	schestowitz	and for that matter, it dislikes what RMS says
[13:09]	schestowitz	DiBona signed the defamation letter
[13:09]	matey	SO DID CHRISTINE!
[13:10]	matey	so did bilefield
[13:10]	matey	so did phipps
[13:10]	matey	and you dont care.
[13:10]	schestowitz	I don't care?
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[13:10]	matey	so dont pretend you care about anyone else signing it either.
[13:10]	schestowitz	false.
[13:10]	matey	<schestowitz> I don't care? <- i tokd you phipps sined
[13:10]	matey	signed
[13:10]	matey	you said you werent mad at him.
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[13:11]	matey	phipps, christine, bilefield all signed. what bilefield wrote was defamation
[13:11]	matey	you didnt care.
[13:11]	matey	in fact i dont think youre actually emotionally capable of caring.
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[13:11]	matey	it wouldnt make you the only sociopath around here, theres another one (self-identified) i respect.
[13:12]	schestowitz	like I didn't talk about the bbyfield posts?
[13:12]	schestowitz	or the signature?
[13:12]	matey	high-functioning mild sociopath, like sherlock holmes maybe
[13:12]	matey	im mostly referring to what you said about phipps.
[13:12]	matey	the rivalry with you and bilefield is well known
[13:12]	schestowitz	it is not rivalry
[13:12]	schestowitz	it's a strong disagreement
[13:12]	matey	hell i think he even wrote a condescending article about you and techrights specifically
[13:12]	matey	saying anti-techrights 
[13:12]	schestowitz	going back to mono, ooxml, and novell
[13:13]	matey	<schestowitz> it's a strong disagreement
[13:13]	matey	oh right right i thought you meant the letter.
[13:13]	matey	i was like lol
[13:13]	schestowitz	bbyyfield is barely relevant since 2010
[13:13]	matey	thank god for small favours
[13:13]	schestowitz	he started attacking groklaw too
[13:14]	matey	hes a slimeball
[13:14]	schestowitz	and then apologise not for novell but for microsoft too
[13:14]	matey	but you probably think thats too negative
[13:14]	schestowitz	then he abandoned and started doing howtos
[13:14]	schestowitz	and then came back for a bit
[13:14]	schestowitz	then vanished again
[13:14]	matey	whatever happened to shane anyway
[13:14]	matey	i assume he was too busy and/or lost interest
[13:15]	matey	especially after mono practically failed
[13:15]	matey	i mean this WAS a single purpose site but it didnt work out that way
[13:15]	matey	i remember when it became techrights
[13:15]	schestowitz	mono?
[13:15]	schestowitz	it was never about mono
[13:15]	schestowitz	he made his own distro
[13:15]	matey	i paid no attention for many years, but we used to talk a decade ago. for a short while. you quoted me in 2010.
[13:16]	schestowitz	I was not aware it was you
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[13:16]	schestowitz	so it was another name
[13:16]	matey	it was never about mono <- my mistake, the NOMO logo on the site forever must have made me think it was
[13:16]	schestowitz	I think you did mention this to m,e before
[13:16]	matey	i mean it was above novell
[13:16]	matey	about
[13:16]	schestowitz	oh
[13:16]	schestowitz	you mean the one in japan
[13:16]	schestowitz	was it jason?
[13:16]	matey	and you thought "boycott novell" was "too negative"
[13:16]	matey	was it jason? <- was what jason?
[13:16]	schestowitz	mono-nono
[13:16]	schestowitz	I forgot the name of his other site
[13:17]	matey	no let me find the url (on your website)
[13:17]	matey	its in the sidebar
[13:18]	matey	hmm
[13:18]	matey	maybe its only on the frontpage, lets find an archive
[13:18]	matey	since the lightweight redesign
[13:19]	matey	anyway, friends, enemies, it makes no difference
[13:19]	matey	theyre all people you know
[13:19]	matey	people you talk to
[13:20]	matey	/me goes to 2019 thinking the logo is probably there
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[13:21]	schestowitz	matey: which logo? maybe I can help find it
[13:21]	schestowitz	something mono?
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[13:23]	matey	http://techrights.org/images/nomo.png
[13:23]	matey	so im probably thinking of that
[13:23]	matey	thats the xamarin logo or something yes?
[13:23]	matey	or whatever it was before xamarin
[13:23]	schestowitz	you can say it is old
[13:23]	schestowitz	based on the path
[13:23]	matey	oh i know its been there for ages
[13:23]	schestowitz	the site was VERY young when I made that
[13:23]	matey	yeah
[13:24]	matey	but it was still there in 2019
[13:24]	matey	im not attaching much significance to it
[13:24]	schestowitz	I was a student back then
[13:24]	matey	just that if i thought it was about mono...
[13:24]	matey	yeah
[13:24]	schestowitz	literally sitting in the LAB at uni
[13:24]	matey	but the thing is, you had this campaign to get rid of mono deps
[13:24]	schestowitz	before I dis the thesis from home
[13:24]	schestowitz	*did
[13:24]	matey	and you promoted alternatives
[13:24]	matey	and it worked, i think even i...
[13:24]	matey	i avoided mono like the plague
[13:25]	schestowitz	mono is still around
[13:25]	schestowitz	but like .NET it's rotting away
[13:25]	schestowitz	miguel and nat left microsoft
[13:25]	matey	you always say that
[13:25]	matey	everything bad is already disappearing
[13:25]	matey	will be gone soon
[13:25]	schestowitz	"real soon now!" :-)
[13:25]	schestowitz	"5 minutes"
[13:25]	matey	closer to the truth
[13:25]	schestowitz	"on the way!"
[13:25]	schestowitz	having morale raised helps too
[13:26]	schestowitz	a lot of negativism can weaken activism
[13:26]	schestowitz	but it lower expectations, which can be good
[13:26]	schestowitz	look at windows market share
[13:26]	schestowitz	little by little it decreased to 30%
[13:26]	matey	http://techrights.org/2009/08/31/boycott-novell-as-negative/
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Why So Negative? | Techrights
[13:28]	matey	Issues that need to be unspun or addressed for the risks that they are will usually be turned into posts in order to understand threats to freedom. This is why an impression may be given that the site has an alarmist aspect to it. Microsoft is covered a lot because Microsoft is by far the biggest opponent to Free software, and certainly the most active one.
[13:29]	matey	i like when threats are taken seriously
[13:29]	matey	these days, rms is making MORE concessions to open source
[13:29]	matey	while microsoft uses "open source" to take over its opponents
[13:30]	schestowitz	RMS is indebted
[13:30]	schestowitz	to various factors
[13:30]	schestowitz	he might not admit it
[13:30]	matey	i think hes compromised in a way, but im not sure which
[13:30]	schestowitz	he was more revolutionary 20 years ago
[13:30]	matey	YES he was
[13:30]	matey	and thats why i said he should step down
[13:30]	matey	so someone more revolutionary could step up
[13:30]	matey	however...
[13:30]	schestowitz	you can also heard that in older speeches
[13:30]	matey	i ALSO said
[13:30]	schestowitz	he used words like "evil"
[13:31]	matey	he should be part of the transition
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[13:31]	matey	he should not leave the fsf
[13:31]	matey	only the position
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[13:31]	matey	and that he should mentor his replacement
[13:31]	matey	this is not the call for him to have no influence
[13:31]	schestowitz	a more revolutionary person would get pushed out by the likes of Kat Walsh and bkuhn he/hjim
[13:31]	matey	but for the fsf to continue
[13:31]	matey	 a more revolutionary person would get pushed out by the likes of <- he WAS pushed out
[13:31]	schestowitz	there is a corrosive force
[13:31]	schestowitz	not just inside the fsf
[13:32]	schestowitz	and sfc
[13:32]	schestowitz	it's a stench that's everywhere now
[13:32]	schestowitz	inc. shithub
[13:32]	matey	yes, it rhymes with "corrosive force"
[13:32]	schestowitz	"professionalism" is their excuse
[13:32]	schestowitz	(they are not THEMSELVES professional)
[13:32]	matey	no theyre hypocrites
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[13:33]	schestowitz	at least some people talk abotu it
[13:33]	schestowitz	tonight I will record a long video about LF
[13:33]	schestowitz	and what became of it
[13:33]	schestowitz	because we have 4 bits of new material
[13:33]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=awY1MRlMKMc
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[13:33]	schestowitz	then we have a video to do about Lukashenko
[13:33]	schestowitz	Luka has his own CoC
[13:34]	schestowitz	it's  "unprofessional" to do opinion polls
[13:34]	matey	code of conquest?
[13:34]	schestowitz	they might show the "CEO" is not popular
[13:34]	matey	code of censorship
[13:34]	schestowitz	yeah
[13:34]	matey	code of corporate ethics
[13:34]	schestowitz	in belarus
[13:35]	matey	<schestowitz> RMS is indebted  <schestowitz> he might not admit it <- the real richard stallman is not coming back
[13:35]	schestowitz	Gulag will; cancel Henry Rollins next
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[13:35]	schestowitz	sorry, "demonetise"
[13:35]	schestowitz	shadowban"
[13:35]	schestowitz	"hey hi"
[13:35]	schestowitz	"we're not in control of the algorithms!!!"
[13:35]	matey	NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!
[13:36]	schestowitz	it's da hey hi
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[13:36]	schestowitz	da hey hay ate ma homework
[13:37]	matey	the reason people are interested in bsd
[13:37]	matey	is because they want control of their computing
[13:37]	matey	and its pretty obvious that whether bsd ever makes that possible or not
[13:37]	matey	for some it clearly does
[13:38]	matey	gnu/linux probably wont
[13:38]	matey	i watched devuan for years-- switched my main development machine to it in feb or march 2015.
[13:38]	matey	first iso download was feb 14 2015.
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[13:38]	matey	i watched them struggle for years
[13:39]	matey	jaromil moved a lot of stuff from dyne TO github
[13:39]	matey	hes the one who created dyne:bolic
[13:39]	matey	fully free, fsf approved
[13:39]	matey	he moved TO github in the past year or two i think
[13:39]	matey	at least i only found out recently
[13:40]	matey	but the devuan struggle is nearly fruitless
[13:40]	matey	they take a step forward
[13:40]	matey	systemd (somehow, i dont get it) drags them two steps back
[13:40]	matey	antix/mx doesnt have this struggle, but theyre github-based so no.
[13:40]	matey	most systemd-free distros are github-based
[13:40]	schestowitz	did toy ask jaromil why he did this?
[13:41]	matey	jaromil is nearly the flightiest person ive ever talked to
[13:41]	schestowitz	some people are enticed by 'free'bies and bribes
[13:41]	schestowitz	like CPU cycles
[13:41]	matey	i think he might actually be radioactive
[13:41]	schestowitz	shitLAB charges for it
[13:41]	matey	i like him but i gave up talking to him more than a year ago
[13:41]	matey	it simply wasnt going anywhere
[13:41]	matey	he did a thesis on free software
[13:41]	matey	its interesting
[13:42]	schestowitz	seems weird he would even touch shitlab with a 10-foot bargepole
[13:42]	schestowitz	he should know better
[13:42]	matey	i agree
[13:42]	matey	but then dyne is free/open
[13:42]	schestowitz	personal account of project's?
[13:42]	matey	i mean i think dyne early one
[13:42]	matey	on
[13:42]	matey	WAS a personal project
[13:42]	schestowitz	maybe it was done against his will to appease someone?
[13:42]	matey	he spun it into a "forge"
[13:42]	matey	i dont know
[13:42]	matey	hes very hands-off admin-wise
[13:43]	schestowitz	he knows how to set up git
[13:43]	matey	yeah
[13:43]	matey	it could easily be someone elses decision
[13:43]	matey	but he doesnt call the shots in devuan at all
[13:43]	schestowitz	in deuan it takes more time to wait for the install
[13:43]	schestowitz	than to get git
[13:43]	matey	i mean he stepped down before it started
[13:43]	schestowitz	and configure it
[13:43]	matey	hes subservient by choice
[13:43]	matey	he lets his people run it
[13:43]	schestowitz	I am too
[13:43]	matey	which is too bad
[13:43]	schestowitz	at work I choose not to be promoted ever
[13:43]	matey	his people demand non-free stuff in the installer
[13:43]	schestowitz	it means less responsibility
[13:44]	matey	his people are absolutely terrible to people who are interested in devuan
[13:44]	schestowitz	maybe jaromil doesn't want to be contact point
[13:44]	schestowitz	so he can do his own thing
[13:44]	schestowitz	and branch out
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[13:44]	matey	there was an exchange between the person running the forum and esr
[13:44]	matey	esr was interested
[13:44]	schestowitz	esr is MIA
[13:44]	matey	one exchange with the non-technical molly-like egomaniac
[13:44]	schestowitz	since 1.5 years ago
[13:44]	matey	well
[13:45]	matey	ariadne said what, hes a white supremacist?
[13:45]	Chaul-Jhin-Kim	Hi I am interested in technology and its intersection with our society.
[13:45]	schestowitz	he is
[13:45]	matey	i guess the helmet with horns was a sign
[13:45]	matey	but i havent found any evidence of his racism
[13:45]	schestowitz	many people in his position would fall back on that
[13:45]	matey	then again i havent paid much attention
[13:45]	matey	maybe osi should have been called wpi
[13:45]	schestowitz	see his blog prior to the DB crasdh
[13:45]	matey	the white power initiative
[13:46]	schestowitz	he did lots of dog-whistling
[13:46]	matey	yeah so did the guy who smirked at someone playing a drum in his face
[13:46]	matey	so did stallman
[13:46]	matey	i mean
[13:46]	matey	have they got anything besides "dog-whistles"
[13:47]	matey	i dont even like esr, id LOVE a reason to write him off
[13:47]	matey	i dont like anything about him.
[13:47]	schestowitz	ICBM: WHITE(HURST) (Open)Power
[13:47]	matey	but before i call someone a white supremacist i like to have more to go on than "dog-whistles" or "posts on 4chan"
[13:47]	matey	doesnt mean hes ok
[13:47]	matey	just that im not joining a brigade without facts
[13:48]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/
[13:48]	TR Bot	 Armed and Dangerous Sex, software, politics, and firearms. Life's simple pleasures
[13:48]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8752
[13:48]	TR Bot	 Kyle Rittenhouse and the militia obligation Armed and Dangerous
[13:48]	matey	otherwise, how do i know theyre not doing a stallman
[13:48]	Chaul-Jhin-Kim	Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. TIME TRAVELERS or MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS): The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN formerly of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER. I am so sick of this chubby Asian man body! Thank you! - CHAUL JHIN
[13:48]	Chaul-Jhin-Kim	KIM (a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL).
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[13:48]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8708
[13:48]	TR Bot	 Rules for rioters Armed and Dangerous
[13:48]	matey	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8752 <- i was waiting for something more specific than just "visit his blog"
[13:48]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8685
[13:48]	matey	ok reading
[13:48]	TR Bot	 This is your final warning Armed and Dangerous
[13:49]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8632
[13:49]	TR Bot	 Choosing your weapons wisely Armed and Dangerous
[13:49]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8627
[13:49]	TR Bot	 PSA: COVID-19 is a bad reason to get a firearm Armed and Dangerous
[13:49]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8587
[13:49]	TR Bot	 Chinese bioweapon II: Electric Boogaloo Armed and Dangerous
[13:49]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8566
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[13:49]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8526
[13:49]	TR Bot	 The Great Inversion Armed and Dangerous
[13:50]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8443
[13:50]	TR Bot	 The Order of Defenders Armed and Dangerous
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[13:50]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8342
[13:50]	TR Bot	 A libertarian rethinks immigration Armed and Dangerous
[13:51]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8310
[13:51]	TR Bot	 Spotting the wild Fascist Armed and Dangerous
[13:51]	matey	i almost feel bad for perens
[13:51]	matey	he really picked a winner
[13:52]	matey	wow http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8443
[13:52]	matey	i have no problem with gun nuts, but this is a guy with a gun who is nuts.
[13:52]	matey	this is a ranting lunatic with a firearm
[13:53]	matey	(doesnt change my stance on guns at all, lots of anti-esr pro-gun people here)
[13:53]	schestowitz	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7871
[13:53]	TR Bot	 How elites are blind about immigration Armed and Dangerous
[13:53]	matey	maybe its good if natural causes take him down.
[13:53]	matey	im still not sure hes a white supremacist because i havent read the other urls (yet)
[13:54]	matey	ive only talked to him once
[13:54]	matey	about stallman
[13:54]	matey	i was not impressed.
[13:54]	schestowitz	I left out m,any
[13:54]	matey	ill check them out
[13:54]	schestowitz	which would be more "Debatable"
[13:54]	schestowitz	not sure WHEN he started writing about politics
[13:54]	matey	oh i mean 
[13:54]	matey	in revolution os, like 20 years ago
[13:54]	schestowitz	but wikipedia said even around 9/11 he dod
[13:55]	schestowitz	I hadn't paid attention until years ago
[13:55]	matey	he said how angry it made him when people compared free software to communism
[13:55]	matey	even stallman refutes that
[13:55]	matey	but when stallman talks about communism hes talking specifically about stalinism 
[13:55]	schestowitz	esr compared antfa to terrorists almost, or "commies"
[13:55]	matey	which is about as much like communism as windows is like "linux"
[13:55]	schestowitz	he uses "commies" as a straw man
[13:56]	schestowitz	e.g. in relation to venezuela
[13:56]	matey	i noticed
[13:56]	matey	thats one of the ones ive read
[13:56]	matey	i mean just now
[13:56]	schestowitz	it's free speech, but off-putting
[13:57]	schestowitz	you would not want your CEO writing a blog like this
[13:57]	matey	i mean...
[13:57]	matey	well its not PROFESSIONAL obviously
[13:57]	matey	but hes siding with the double standard of free speech but "no sedition"
[13:57]	matey	which constitutionally is a big deal
[13:58]	matey	because constitutionally...
[13:58]	matey	2/3 of the people can dissolve the constitution
[13:58]	matey	thats a very important thing to note
[13:58]	matey	the people have (on paper, not in reality) ALL THE POWER
[13:58]	matey	sedition flies in the face of this
[13:58]	matey	it makes the government special
[13:58]	TR News	"The unknown hackers, Papers we love to read, Dual Boot Homelab in The Bedroom by the bed testbed, OpenSSH 9.0 released, OS battle: OpenBSD vs. NixOS, and more" https://www.bsdnow.tv/452
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[13:59]	matey	and hes talking about communists like theyre guilty of sedition and implying it as treasonous and something his guns can protect us from
[13:59]	matey	he would shoot me, for engaging in free speech
[13:59]	matey	this is a guy who claims to care about free speech
[13:59]	matey	and a sheer hypocrite
[13:59]	matey	of course
[13:59]	matey	but as i said... i dont like anything about him
[13:59]	matey	he worked on termcaps or curses, or both
● Apr 28
[14:00]	matey	he has some early-year tech chops related to free software
[14:00]	matey	other than that
[14:00]	matey	hes a counterrevolutionary
[14:00]	matey	both in regards to free software, and apparently, world politics
[14:00]	matey	when the world loses a counterrevolutionary, it gains.
[14:01]	matey	hes of no more use to free software than steve jobs was.
[14:01]	matey	and it wont be sad when he passes
[14:01]	matey	i still have to read more to determine if hes actually a white supremacist
[14:01]	matey	i think the whole notion of "dog-whistles" is too close to wrongthink, which is what pushed stallman to pretend to step down, or whatever.
[14:02]	matey	but that doesnt mean esr is NOT a white supremacist
[14:02]	matey	i just have a high standard of proof for that sort of thing
[14:02]	matey	someone told me someone in here is a white supremacist
[14:02]	matey	ive seen signs, so theyre not crazy to think that
[14:03]	matey	oh, not dfc
[14:03]	matey	dfc is... weird
[14:03]	schestowitz	I think I know who
[14:03]	matey	but i dont think hes a white supremacist
[14:03]	matey	yeah i bet you do actually
[14:03]	schestowitz	it's usually closeted
[14:03]	schestowitz	they would not say it out loud
[14:03]	matey	sure, i get that
[14:04]	schestowitz	I think they can be "cured" of it
[14:04]	schestowitz	i put that in quotes
[14:04]	matey	i mean
[14:04]	schestowitz	if you don't, it worsens
[14:04]	schestowitz	the problem does not go away
[14:04]	matey	i knew a guy who was at one point a white supremacist
[14:04]	matey	now, hes a hippie and goes to rainbow gatherings and does native american peace pipe ceremonies
[14:04]	matey	not that the two are entirely mutually exclusive... oddly
[14:05]	matey	but hes not a white supremacist
[14:05]	matey	anymore
[14:05]	matey	i was a female supremacist when i was younger
[14:05]	matey	i literally thought women were naturally BETTER people 
[14:05]	matey	im basically neutral on gender now
[14:05]	schestowitz	collectiove pride happens when one lacks accomplishment
[14:05]	schestowitz	or feels singular rejection
[14:06]	matey	when youre young you can make false generalisations like that
[14:06]	schestowitz	like so-called "incels"
[14:06]	matey	its not just about accomplishment though
[14:06]	matey	anyone who feels "beaten down" by even one person in their life
[14:06]	matey	can be manipulated into channeling that into hate for a group
[14:06]	matey	"it was all the jews!"
[14:06]	matey	"it was all the blacks!"
[14:06]	matey	"it was the jews using the blacks!"
[14:07]	schestowitz	women are not better than men, they are just different
[14:07]	activelow	*bsd and gnu/linux share _many_ components, particularly those which pose a threat to both
[14:07]	schestowitz	like an octopus isn't better
[14:07]	schestowitz	or an eagle
[14:07]	matey	"thats why your uncle molested yoy, he was corrupted by the jews!"
[14:07]	matey	you
[14:07]	matey	"OMG IT ALL MAKES SENSE!"
[14:07]	schestowitz	humans are better [sic] than them in the sense they can wipe them all out (and do)
[14:07]	matey	 <schestowitz> women are not better than men, they are just different <- i realised this later.
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[14:08]	matey	i met enough good men and lousy women. i didnt flip the chauvanism and hate women instead, i just abandoned the idea that anyone is superior.
[14:08]	schestowitz	being an eagle would be nice
[14:08]	matey	but i still know female supremacy when i see it
[14:08]	matey	my best friend is a feminist, but hes not any kind of supremacist
[14:08]	schestowitz	but depends where, they can starve to death or get poisoned (even hunted)
[14:09]	SomeH4x0r	hi matey
[14:09]	matey	hi
[14:09]	schestowitz	being an eagle in yellowstone would be fumn
[14:09]	SomeH4x0r	barto was around sometime yesterday
[14:09]	schestowitz	*fun
[14:09]	matey	SomeH4x0r: if barto and i talk, we talk
[14:09]	matey	if we dont, we dont
[14:10]	matey	whats meant to be will be
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[14:10]	matey	they can starve to death or get poisoned (even hunted) <- yes im familiar with "honour" killings and human trafficking.
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	animals are also trafficked
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	but there are other words for that
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	see, humans are "different"...
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	"slave trade"
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	"human trafficking"
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	"smuggling"
[14:12]	matey	no, humans arent different
[14:12]	matey	like quite a few other animals, humans eat meat
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	I was being ironic though
[14:12]	matey	unlike most animals, weve become disgustingly industrial and wasteful about it
[14:12]	matey	we would do well to stop eating beef for a start
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	if you say a human is animal it's sensed as an insult
[14:12]	matey	its unbelievably wasteful
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	like you "DEHUMANISE" them
[14:12]	matey	i mean its a fact, humans are animals
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	"STOP DEDOGIFYING MY DOGGY"
[14:13]	SomeH4x0r	oh, also goose did change the ircd on TWISTED to ergo, which I hate
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	(next thing you know they're just cattle, sold as meat on the market, piecewise)
[14:13]	matey	i didnt know he was capable of doing that without your help
[14:13]	SomeH4x0r	he talks about "modernizing", I talk about destructive fake "progress"
[14:14]	matey	fake progress is terrible. not only does it not solve anything, it makes people stop trying to fix it.
[14:14]	schestowitz-TR	goose runs twisted? the python thing?
[14:14]	SomeH4x0r	no, irc.executingreality.com/+6697
[14:15]	schestowitz-TR	x org is stable
[14:15]	schestowitz-TR	so we solve small issues
[14:15]	schestowitz-TR	bugs
[14:15]	schestowitz-TR	wayland is a bug
[14:15]	SomeH4x0r	ergo breaks IRC standards
[14:15]	schestowitz-TR	so you end up dealing with show stoppers
[14:15]	schestowitz-TR	icbm, thank you!
[14:15]	SomeH4x0r	he is goosestepping_ here btw
[14:16]	matey	probably a stupid pun, i dont think hes a white supremacist
[14:16]	matey	it is a terrible handle at least
[14:16]	schestowitz-TR	fake modernity = masochism 
[14:17]	matey	any time you use a fake solution as a solution to a problem, youre saddling yourself with whatever problem you were setting out to fix
[14:17]	matey	modernity is an arbitrary solution, often to problems that dont exist
[14:17]	matey	just as likely to cause issues as resolve them
[14:18]	SomeH4x0r	I don't get why this place has ergo too
[14:18]	SomeH4x0r	but probably you have some stupid excuses
[14:18]	matey	you dont like ircd3 they do
[14:18]	matey	im not familiar enough with ircd3 but i bet its modern
[14:18]	matey	and a lot of modern things are
[14:18]	SomeH4x0r	https://ircv3.net
[14:18]	TR Bot	 Welcome - IRCv3
[14:18]	matey	im not against all modernisation
[14:18]	matey	its just that it has a tendency to be bullshit
[14:19]	matey	and im generally against bullshit
[14:19]	schestowitz-TR	icbm: we don't do software, we sell solutions
[14:19]	matey	especially as a solution
[14:19]	schestowitz-TR	also icbm: systemd. this is the final solution. (next: wayland)
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR	[14:18] <SomeH4x0r> but probably you have some stupid excuses
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR	the person who wrote part of ircv3
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR	SomeH4x0r: use a modern [ ^_^  ] irc client
[14:20]	SomeH4x0r	ergo is like systemd in IRC
[14:20]	SomeH4x0r	putting separate parts together
[14:21]	matey	of course if youre trying to get away from wayla# find / -type f | grep ayland | wc
[14:21]	matey	0       0       0
[14:22]	matey	  schestowitz  but in terms of practical benefits over gnu/linux distros, not much to be found, maybe just smaller footprint and experience gain   Sep 10 21:06   
[14:22]	matey	and getting away from wayland
[14:22]	matey	and getting away from systemd
[14:22]	matey	and getting away from linux foundation
[14:22]	SomeH4x0r	it is a cancer on IRC
[14:22]	matey	maybe it is
[14:22]	matey	but youd do well to provide more details than that
[14:24]	schestowitz-TR	I don't have systemd on this machine
[14:24]	matey	ill bet you do, and its just not running as pid 1
[14:25]	matey	but if thats all it means to be systemd-free, we fixed that 7 years ago.
[14:25]	matey	/me plays crab rave
[14:25]	matey	hell, i even made a program that remixed debian live (9.5) to use sysvinit instead of systemd
[14:25]	matey	on the live installer
[14:25]	matey	first boot
[14:26]	matey	i did trisquel too
[14:26]	matey	their version used systemd, mine booted upstart instead-- not an older version of trisquel
[14:26]	matey	i mean its older NOW, it wasnt then
[14:27]	matey	trisquel no longer includes upstart because its really just (microsoft) ubuntu
[14:27]	matey	and they dont care about systemd 
[14:27]	matey	so they hardly fight for your freedom
[14:28]	matey	trisquel, fully free
[14:28]	matey	also trisquel, sure, let ibm take control of everything
[14:29]	matey	but i mean, if not running systemd as init is the only problem, jaromil solved that in feb 2015 and devuan is completely unnecessary
[14:29]	matey	ou could replace the entire project WITH A SCRIPT
[14:30]	matey	except systemd is far more insidious than that
[14:30]	matey	or mincer would have shut up about it 7 years ago
[14:30]	matey	(and i would have never written a single article)
[14:31]	superkuh	lol.
[14:31]	superkuh	Does techrights exist anymore?
[14:31]	superkuh	Kind of like a tree falling in the forest with no one around to hear it.
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[14:31]	matey	 <schestowitz-TR> also icbm: systemd. this is the final solution. (next: wayland) <- is that the route for the d-bus?
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	-d-trains
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	you swipe at the terminal
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	with your phone app
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	or wrist
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[14:34]	matey	there was a british programme in the 80s
[14:34]	matey	sort of a followup to "the computer programme" (sic) with one of the same people
[14:34]	TR News	Gammath SPOT version 3.5 (beta) released on 27 April 2022. They need to delete GitHub. https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT
[14:34]	matey	called "making the most of the micro"
[14:34]	TR Bot	 Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory
[14:34]	matey	about the bbc micro of course
[14:35]	matey	in the last episode they transmitted a bbc micro program over the television 
[14:35]	matey	you would record it with the tape recorder then play it into the micro, it was pretty cool
[14:35]	matey	its still on youtube
[14:35]	TR News	Embedded Linux project: Yocto or Ubuntu Core? [Part IV] | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/embedded-linux-project-iv Source: ubuntu
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[14:35]	TR Bot	Linux project: Yocto or Ubuntu Core? [Part IV] | Ubuntu
[14:36]	matey	in the first episode, they had a guy who had to type with a thing attached to his head
[14:36]	matey	but it let him use the very firm keyboard on an apple ][ or whatever machine it was
[14:36]	matey	and he would write programs in basic this way, because he couldnt use his hands to type
[14:37]	matey	i would say that touchscreens are murder for this sort of thing
[14:37]	TR News	Is Canonical trying to get sold to Microsoft? https://ubuntu.com//blog/new-active-directory-integration-features-in-ubuntu-22-04-part-1 3 Microsoft puff pieces so far this week in their blog.
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[14:37]	TR Bot	Active Directory Integration features in Ubuntu 22.04 (part 1) | Ubuntu
[14:37]	matey	i have good dexterity but i think virtual keyboards are generally a nightmare for usability
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[14:37]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[14:37]	matey	but in reality im sure theres some eye-tracking app that serves the same purpose
[14:38]	matey	i mean that techs been around for decades, only it was more expensive and now you can put it in a smartphone
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	virtual keyboards  are not keyboard
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	hence virtual
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	like  viertual "sex"
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	or "meta" verse
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	all BS
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	or fake social life
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	like FB walls 
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	and "likes"
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR	some people no longer understand what friendship is
[14:38]	matey	/me doesnt think virtual sex is bs
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR	they think it's "I like yours, please like mine also"
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR	many people still use mechaniscal keybbords
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR	I have 5 laptop keyboard around me at the moment
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR	but I use external one
[14:40]	matey	yeah your laptop keyboard wasnt working
[14:40]	schestowitz-TR	some keys
[14:40]	matey	right
[14:40]	schestowitz-TR	working, not working
[14:40]	matey	i had a similar issue, its common
[14:40]	schestowitz-TR	not consistently
[14:40]	matey	went and got an external
[14:40]	matey	i do the same for monitors
[14:41]	matey	the guy i wanted to perform my wedding ceremony (he was booked that day) had an old netbook with a broken screen
[14:41]	matey	i used a live usb to boot it and scp the filesystem over the church network to back it  up for him
[14:41]	matey	then he gave me the netbook
[14:41]	matey	i stuck a monitor on it
[14:42]	matey	i still carried it around like a laptop but i could only use it at the library, where they had monitors
[14:42]	matey	or at home
[14:42]	matey	but with the screen removed, it weighed nothing (it was light to start with)
[14:42]	schestowitz-TR	the glass
[14:42]	schestowitz-TR	or plastic on top of it
[14:42]	matey	sure a little bit
[14:42]	schestowitz-TR	not plastic
[14:43]	schestowitz-TR	some other material
[14:43]	matey	small screen
[14:43]	matey	yeah i think lcd has glass
[14:43]	schestowitz-TR	I'm not familiar with the process
[14:43]	matey	even if theres plastic over it
[14:43]	matey	either way the screen adds weight
[14:43]	schestowitz-TR	some kind of Lycra maybe
[14:43]	matey	small screen, but small computer
[14:43]	schestowitz-TR	of a more solid form
[14:43]	schestowitz-TR	protective
[14:43]	matey	whatever it is, it shatters like glass does
[14:43]	matey	but i suppose some materials could do that
[14:44]	activelow	microsoft creeped deeply into X11 with their TrueType font system... it's still possible to remove it and retain X11
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	old CRTs had very thick frontal glass
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	you woulld see how think if you smashed one
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	or saw a smashed one somewhere
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: probably not their code
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	just the patents
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR	expired now, IIRC
[14:45]	matey	https://www.quora.com/Why-are-most-touch-screens-made-of-glass-instead-of-plastic-like-laptop-screens?share=1
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[14:45]	TR Bot	are most touch screens made of glass instead of plastic like laptop screens? - Quora
[14:45]	activelow	it is awful nonetheless
[14:45]	matey	"Why are most touch screens made of glass instead of plastic like laptop screens?" It's just the outer layer of the display panel. Both contain both glass and plastic layers internally. The display itself must be glass, because both the liquid crystal material in LCD/TFT displ...
[14:45]	matey	"The display itself must be glass, because both the liquid crystal material in LCD/TFT"
[14:45]	matey	its a thin layer, not like a window pane
[14:46]	matey	definitely thick enough to feel the weight difference
[14:46]	schestowitz-TR	double-glazed screen :-
[14:46]	schestowitz-TR	to lock the heat inside :-)
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[14:53]	matey	i can see how esr is threatened by "communists" 
[14:53]	matey	"The U.S. has a proud tradition of assimilating legal immigrants into a high-trust society, but it succeeds in this by making them non-diverse teaching them to assimilate folk values and blend in. Putnams work suggests strongly that without the ability to rate-limit immigration to be within some as yet undetermined maximum, the harm from erosion of trust would exceed the benefits of immigration."
[14:53]	matey	http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7871
[14:53]	TR Bot	 How elites are blind about immigration Armed and Dangerous
[14:53]	matey	in the soviet union-- not only under stalin, who made a mess of it
[14:54]	matey	they AMPLY refuted what esr is saying here
[14:54]	matey	masses were thrown together from every ethnicity AND culture
[14:54]	matey	and people were (for the most part, at least as much as as you see in the usa) friends 
[14:54]	matey	"diversity" was no barrier at all
[14:55]	matey	you can see in this article, esr recognises that the same issues he talks about CAN BE resolved
[14:55]	matey	but only at a certain "rate" he says
[14:55]	matey	but that rate depends entirely on circumstances other than "different cultures" or "folk values" as he puts it
[14:56]	matey	in other words, he starts to debunk his own claim, he simply doesnt finish
[14:56]	matey	the soviet union, before its collapse, would have amply refuted what hes saying
[14:56]	matey	but since its communist, he would only shoot it, not learn anything.
[14:56]	matey	oh well
[14:57]	matey	again im not talking about under stalin, i mean after leaders started to listen to people complaining
[14:57]	schestowitz-TR	maybe he chats with soem bros at the shooting range
[14:57]	schestowitz-TR	and they tell him those things
[14:57]	matey	under stalin, there was a sort of coc like the lf one
[14:57]	matey	where you couldnt complain about anything because how dare you question authority, what are you, a nazi?
[14:58]	TR News	The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe is out now | GamingOnLinux <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-stanley-parable-ultra-deluxe-is-out-now/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
[14:58]	TR Bot	Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe is out now | GamingOnLinux
[14:58]	matey	when they did away with that a lot of people wanted to undo a lot of stalins more idiotic ideas about who should live where
[14:58]	matey	and some progress was made
[14:58]	TR News	Building and management sim Tavern Master comes to Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/building-and-management-sim-tavern-master-comes-to-linux/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
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[14:58]	TR Bot	and management sim Tavern Master comes to Linux | GamingOnLinux
[14:59]	matey	too bad stalin is in power again
[14:59]	TR News	"The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe from Crows Crows Crows is out now with Native Linux support and it's looking good." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-stanley-parable-ultra-deluxe-is-out-now/
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[14:59]	matey	and just as insane as ever before
[14:59]	matey	only no moustache this time
[14:59]	matey	and sometimes no shirt either
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[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	always short
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[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	not always a shirt
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[15:02]	matey	hes more like napoleon than hitler
[15:02]	matey	but even more like stalin
[15:03]	matey	actually, his ambitions are probably more like napoleons. but thats a guess
[15:05]	activelow	99% of all "free software" systems (bsd, gnu) ship with microsoft/apple freetype for their X11, although it can be removed
[15:06]	TR News	PE needs to delete GitHub. Microsoft is competitor and foe, don't let Microsoft (criminals) control the project and code. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/proton-experimental-fixes-video-playback-in-ember-knights-ghostwire-tokyo-and-more/
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[15:06]	TR Bot	Experimental fixes video playback in Ember Knights, Ghostwire: Tokyo and more | GamingOnLinux
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[15:07]	TR News	Linux inside https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/28/khadas-vim4-review-part-1-unboxing-kit-assembly-and-first-boot-with-oowow/
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[15:07]	TR Bot	 Khadas VIM4 Review - Part 1: Unboxing, kit assembly, and first boot with OOWOW - CNX Software
[15:07]	activelow	hitting another dependency of microsft freetype against ghostscript ... where it can be removed too, although it isn't optional in the build system anymore
[15:08]	activelow	that's why, bsd/gnu/linux whoever crying about microsoft, is somwheat amusing, given almost all gnu/linux with X11 depend on it, microsoft/apple font system
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[15:10]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: not as simple as you put it
[15:10]	schestowitz-TR	you could say the same about samba
[15:10]	schestowitz-TR	but smb originally came from ancient ibm, iirc
[15:11]	activelow	the standard is called CIFS btw.
[15:11]	activelow	and samba is easily removed
[15:11]	schestowitz-TR	I know
[15:11]	activelow	however, microsoft font system creeping deeply into gnu, this isn't easily coped with... although i got a solution for this problem now
[15:11]	schestowitz-TR	many things demand samba
[15:11]	schestowitz-TR	you can also remove font bits
[15:11]	matey	esr: "Lenin didnt understand that the puppets could be trained to love their motions so much that they would keep dancing after their strings were cut. And go on to recruits more puppets to the dance."
[15:11]	schestowitz-TR	and run without them
[15:11]	matey	im pretty sure lenin understood that just fine
[15:11]	schestowitz-TR	but fonts and protocol for files are different monsters
[15:12]	MinceR	not sure what's MICROS~1 or crApple about FreeType
[15:12]	schestowitz-TR	patwnts
[15:12]	schestowitz-TR	old software patents
[15:12]	MinceR	from what i can tell, it was started by an independent person, targeting OS/2
[15:12]	matey	that's why, bsd/gnu/linux whoever crying about microsoft, is somwheat amusing, given almost all gnu/linux with X11 depend on it <- i mean thats the whole fucking point though
[15:12]	MinceR	and crApple's patents were avoided until they expired
[15:12]	matey	given almost all gnu/linux with X11 depend on it <- that is the whole fucking point
[15:13]	matey	youre saying it like its some kind of revelation or "gotcha" in the whole thing
[15:13]	matey	it IS the whole thing.
[15:13]	matey	its not a gotcha at all
[15:13]	matey	also fuck you, a little
[15:13]	matey	bsd/gnu/linux whoever crying about microsoft <- yeah
[15:14]	matey	more like tired of
[15:14]	MinceR	i'm aware of two major scalable font formats, one owned by adobe and one owned by MICROS~1
[15:14]	MinceR	neither of them are good masters to have
[15:14]	MinceR	they seem to be working together on OpenType
[15:14]	matey	masters in general, are not good to have
[15:14]	MinceR	indeed
[15:14]	matey	though calling them mains doesnt fix anyhting :)
[15:14]	MinceR	but at least we appear to have free implementations
[15:14]	MinceR	(FreeType and free fonts)
[15:14]	activelow	bitmapped fonts have advantages too, and if used correctly, the visual result with bitmapped fonts is very good
[15:15]	MinceR	if you like aliasing
[15:15]	matey	i mean
[15:15]	activelow	bitmapped fonts need no scaling with aliasing
[15:15]	matey	okay just for fun...
[15:15]	MinceR	of course, while troubleshooting the windowing system, i don't mind aliasing, but in general use, i do
[15:16]	matey	we could have bitmapped fonts with anti-aliasing though
[15:16]	activelow	and i do not need vectorized/scalable fonts; what is required without scalable fonts is a correctly sized bitmap font for any desired encoding
[15:16]	matey	just not monochome ones
[15:16]	matey	i dont know if its ever been done
[15:16]	matey	you could literally just run the ttf, take a screenshot, divvy it up into individual images, and...
[15:16]	matey	voila, anti-aliased bitmap fonts
[15:17]	activelow	^ exactly
[15:17]	matey	(obviously youd need a different library to display them or youd have to modify it)
[15:17]	MinceR	i suppose when you have some games put text together from bitmaps, those can sometimes be antialiased
[15:17]	MinceR	but there are limits to the practicality
[15:17]	matey	limits to the practicality is what this is all about :)
[15:17]	MinceR	they can't scale and the more of unicode you try to support, the worse it gets
[15:18]	matey	the more of unicode you try to support, the worse it gets <- that seems to be true no matter what method is used :/
[15:18]	matey	unicode is a fucking beast
[15:18]	MinceR	yeah, but to different extents
[15:18]	matey	not THE beast, but im sure the mark has a unicode point.
[15:18]	matey	but to different extents <- quite so
[15:18]	MinceR	also, i wonder how much disk space and how much memory would a reasonably complete unicode-supporting anti-aliased bitmap font take
[15:19]	activelow	besides the political implications, with microsoft freetype font system stuffed into almost every gnu/linux system; too scalable/vector fonts have disadvantages
[15:19]	matey	i mean, here you go, ascii has a 127, and debatably a 255
[15:19]	matey	but ascii has no 666. you need unicode for that :)
[15:19]	activelow	meaning, their processing (anti-aliasiang, hinting) is _slow_, it is expensive, even when it is not required if a correctly sized bitmap font for iso8859-15 exists
[15:20]	matey	and you cant buy or sell anything (online) without unicode, so OMG PROPHECIES WERE TRUE
[15:21]	matey	it is not required if a correctly sized bitmap font for iso8859-15 exists <- standards are industry bullshit! industry bullshit to the rescue
[15:21]	MinceR	iso8859-15 doesn't really cut it anymore
[15:22]	matey	iso8859-15 should be enough for anybody
[15:22]	MinceR	lol
[15:22]	activelow	didn't say this
[15:22]	MinceR	and all that processing did happen in a usable time frame on a rpi1 running a full screen terminal emulator on X
[15:22]	MinceR	so it seems practical enough
[15:22]	activelow	besides unicode is another concern, besides scalable vector fonts disadvantes
[15:23]	activelow	disadvantages
[15:23]	MinceR	i suppose one can cache rendered glyphs in the case of a terminal emulator though
[15:23]	matey	that would be interesting
[15:23]	matey	but ultimately only gnome would do it
[15:23]	matey	and then we would have two more operating systems installed to make up for the cache benefit.
[15:23]	matey	gnome: twice as fast!
[15:24]	matey	also gnome: 10x as slow!
[15:24]	activelow	all i noticed was this: cmatrix test case in terminal emulator, with freetype fonts this is hitting 100% cpu usage... wt****
[15:24]	activelow	in comparison, rxvt-2.7 with bitmapped fonts ... CPU usage 0% when cmatrix is active .... discuss
[15:24]	activelow	and the PCF font with rxvt-2.7 looks almost identical to the freetype one
[15:25]	matey	/me wonders why xterm still seems faster than rxvt
[15:25]	activelow	asynchronsous scrolling is helpful with speed too
[15:25]	matey	no way to test here, the only rxvt i can install easily is urxvt
[15:25]	matey	but when i made the comparison, i had rxvt too
[15:26]	matey	i have urxvt installed but thats not a fair comparison
[15:26]	activelow	urxvt is poisoned alread (and urxvt removed graphics support, not sure if this is what is necessary for sixel/regis vector graphics)
[15:26]	MinceR	28 162339 < matey> and then we would have two more operating systems installed to make up for the cache benefit.
[15:26]	MinceR	not that sort of cache
[15:26]	matey	no i mean, this isnt a knock on the idea itself, just on gnome
[15:26]	MinceR	the sort of cache i had in mind is like this: you have freetype render, say, the letter 'a' for you once, then you put that bitmap in a cache
[15:26]	matey	because gnome would be the only people to bother actually developing such a thing
[15:27]	matey	no your idea is fine
[15:27]	matey	it would work
[15:27]	MinceR	probably rendered black on white or vice versa and you color it when you put it to screen
[15:27]	matey	but the only people interested in writing it would be gnome, because they love gimmicks
[15:27]	matey	then they would make it render twice as fast-- then add another mountiain of bloat to make up for it
[15:27]	MinceR	and when you run out of cache space, you discard the least recently used bitmap
[15:27]	matey	yes
[15:27]	matey	like i said, flawless
[15:27]	matey	it would work
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[15:27]	activelow	btw. the rxvt i got here was known to support CJK already... so what, in response to iso8859-15 for everyone
[15:28]	matey	but if gnome implemented it, it wouldnt :)
[15:28]	MinceR	:>
[15:28]	matey	thats the only caveat
[15:28]	MinceR	someone may have implemented it already
[15:28]	activelow	if you need hieroglyphs inside terminal emulator, then rxvt can do this too for you
[15:28]	TR News	Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164246
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[15:28]	matey	and gnome loves gimmicks so they would jump on the chance
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[15:28]	matey	 <MinceR> someone may have implemented it already <- i almost wonder why we havent seen it already
[15:29]	matey	gnome is to performance what vw is... to performance
[15:29]	matey	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal
[15:29]	TR Bot	 Volkswagen emissions scandal - Wikipedia
[15:30]	matey	fine german (social) engineering
[15:31]	activelow	social engineering?
[15:32]	matey	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal <- social engineering
[15:33]		*schestowitz-TR back to writing about belarus
[15:34]	matey	european protection (money) organisation
[15:35]	matey	or european patent racket, but thats a different acronym
[15:35]	schestowitz-TR	'european'
[15:35]	schestowitz-TR	it's intl org
[15:35]	schestowitz-TR	not european at all
[15:35]	schestowitz-TR	like imf is international'
[15:35]	schestowitz-TR	you know who it exists for
[15:36]	matey	you can probably say the same for the eu
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[15:36]	MinceR	http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/safety-hardcore.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/12/did-i-mention-the-hardcore/ )
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[15:36]	TR Bot	 Did I mention the hardcore?
[15:37]	matey	how to properly wear a harness
[15:37]	matey	wearing it improperly could result in injury
[15:38]	TR News	"I found myself without a job on short notice. I'm not at all worried about finding another one, I have savings, and I have experience, and I have demonstrable skill. What I am concerned about is finding a source of income that's compatible with putting some time on my personal projects." gemini://marginalia.nu/log/56-uncertain-future.gmi
[15:39]	TR News	Wiki projects and Gemini gemini://ainent.xyz/fiction/2022-04-27-dragonoid-chronicles-wiki-announcement.gmi
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[15:43]	matey	its like a rolex https://www.engrish.com/2021/05/hot-girl-power/
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[15:43]	TR Bot	 Hot Girl Power
[15:43]	matey	or it would be hilarious if you listen to it and its just some j-pop band doing covers
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[15:44]	MinceR	:)
[15:44]	matey	they did this with the beatles A LOT
[15:45]	matey	like there were countless beatles knockoffs-- youd find records by bands with names like "the mop tops"
[15:45]	matey	sometimes it would be nameless musicians doing beatles covers
[15:45]	matey	other times it would be random crap with a band simply named and/or dressed in a way to make you think it could be a beatles record
[15:46]	matey	"the fab four" was another one-- anything they nicknamed the beatles, there would be a band with that name, on an album
[15:47]	matey	this was before tribute bands were a factor
[15:47]	MinceR	was there one called "beatless"? :>
[15:48]	matey	i think quite a few of them were beatless
[15:48]	matey	without ringo theyd be beatless
[15:49]	matey	a different kind of beatles ripoff https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8pfJRTU6J1s
[15:49]	TR Bot	 10 Beatles Hits That 'Rip Off' Other Songs - Invidious
[15:51]	matey	"the beatoos"
[15:51]	matey	i think hes got that jonathan ross thing
[15:53]	matey	wow, i didnt know about these
[15:55]	matey	okay but the opening of "revolution" is the same 2 notes 36 times...
[15:56]	matey	if you can copyright that, someone needs to die
[15:56]	matey	/me realises plagiarism != copyright
[15:57]	matey	but its the same 2 notes 36 times! you might as well say "do do do do do do do do do
[15:57]	matey	is plagiarism
[15:57]	matey	"once upon a time" "YOU STOLE THAT!"
[15:57]	matey	"the end?" "OMG"
[15:58]	matey	"and they lived..." *lawyer on speed dial*
[15:59]	matey	to be fair the person who made the video doesnt think its plagiarism either (the 36 same note one)
● Apr 28
[16:00]	matey	watch your step vs i feel fine is interesting
[16:00]	matey	rolling stones did the same thing, then later sued the verve for doing it too
[16:00]	matey	/me stopped listening to them, fuck mick jagger
[16:03]	matey	and lol, the guy the beatles ripped off had already ripped off dizzy gillespie first :)
[16:03]	matey	same song. but i think the ripoff was a little more creative 
[16:04]	matey	musicians do this constantly
[16:04]	matey	before the record industry was a thing, this is how music was made
[16:04]	matey	if its original, its incidental
[16:05]	matey	lez zeppelin (notorious for this) used part of the same song
[16:06]	matey	folk music will reuse an entire tune, like weird al does
[16:06]	matey	jazz and blues will reuse parts
[16:08]	matey	"they wanted me to sue them but i told them not to be so stupid. you cant copyright a rhythm and the rhythm was all theyd used. anyway, wed borroed it from dan burley"-- humphrey lyttelton 
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[16:16]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[16:16]	matey	hi
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[16:16]	activelow	given the situation with unicode, font systems, this is yet another reason, to re-iterate over virtual terminals, and which one to pick
[16:17]	SomeH4x0r	oh, it was just a connection glitch
[16:17]	activelow	certainly i'll keep the two decades old rxvt-2.7, and i will try to hack suckless simple terminal to support X11/PCF bitmapped fonts without miscrosoft fontconfig/freetype
[16:17]	matey	/me thinks unicode is an extremely useful feature, even if the worst thing you can do is make it mandatory
[16:18]	activelow	it isn't entirely clear what you are referring to with unicode
[16:18]	activelow	the transfer format? the font system?
[16:18]	activelow	of cause i will take care, unicode can be coped with, yet i'll try to without microsoft/apple truetype involved
[16:19]	matey	the ability to use a number higher than 255 and get text out of it.
[16:19]	matey	and fontconfig isnt microsoft, its ibm https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig
[16:19]	TR Bot	 fontconfig / fontconfig GitLab
[16:19]	activelow	with a non-unicode terminal, any type of document must map a character set into ~190 max glyphs available, yes... which is good enough for me
[16:20]	matey	why 190 max
[16:20]	activelow	i am referring to linux framebuffer console and their PSF font system
[16:20]	matey	in the 80s you could get (bitmapped fonts) nearly 255 characters 
[16:20]	activelow	some codepoints aren't used for fonts, 
[16:21]	matey	i mean ascii 7, which is audible, had a little circle 
[16:21]	activelow	even in the 80s it was possible to use more than 255 characters, this requires swapping the codepage
[16:21]	matey	i  mean within codepage 437 mostly
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[16:22]	matey	otherwise ascii 1 is just a control character
[16:22]	matey	in codepage 437 its an ancient emoji
[16:22]	matey	a premoji :)
[16:22]	MinceR	(cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/QuO6PwV.mp4
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[16:25]	matey	freetype is also ibm. they moved from savannah to gitlab in 2021, and kept the former as a mirror
[16:25]	matey	this was in january, before stallman announced his return months later
[16:25]	matey	We are now using the infrastructure of the gitlab instance of freedesktop.org. All bug issues have been imported (kudos to Anurag Thakur for doing this tedious job!), together with the git repositories, which have been renamed to freetype and freetype-demos (this is, we are dropping the 2 in the repository names).
[16:26]	matey	The git repositories at Savannah will stay as mirrors.https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freetype
[16:26]	TR Bot	 FreeType GitLab
[16:26]	matey	so both fontconfig/freetype are ibm, not microsoft
[16:27]	matey	ah, but
[16:28]	matey	for 8 years freetype has used harfbuzz i guess
[16:28]	matey	thats microsoft
[16:28]	matey	join us now, at ibm and microsoft
[16:28]	matey	code for free, hackers
[16:28]	matey	code for free
[16:28]	matey	when ibm and microsoft has enough free software
[16:29]	matey	that we wrote, hackers, that we wrote
[16:29]	matey	we will kick out richard stallman
[16:29]	matey	evermore, hackers, evermore
[16:30]	matey	its like when mozart wrote his own requiem
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[16:31]	matey	"the free software song for organ in d minor"
[16:31]	activelow	nice overview, what linux PSF font system is capable of, even without unicode
[16:31]	activelow	https://www.zap.org.au/projects/console-fonts-zap/
[16:31]	TR Bot	 Linux Console Fonts - The ZAP Group
[16:31]	matey	"by 'in d minor...'"
[16:31]	matey	"no, not like that"
[16:32]	MinceR	Death in D Minor
[16:32]	matey	rule #1: dont put organ in d minor.
[16:32]	MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABVwjjf9Djc
[16:32]	TR Bot	https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=ABVwjjf9Djc
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[16:32]	matey	rule #2: dont debate putting organ in d minor in d e-mail.
[16:35]	matey	rule #3: dont visit microsoft while bill gates is visiting jeff epstein
[16:35]	matey	jeff epstein: the first rule about flight club is, you do not talk about flight club
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[16:41]	TR News	From Belarus With Love Part VI: Big Daddy Hammers the Opposition... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/belarus-opposition/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/28/belarus-opposition/
[16:41]	TR Bot	 From Belarus With Love Part VI: Big Daddy Hammers the Opposition | Techrights
[16:42]	matey	interesting https://www.zap.org.au/projects/console-fonts-zap/
[16:44]	bnchs__	rule #0: don't watch clippers owner's victory thigh rub
[16:44]	matey	 don't watch clippers owner's victory thigh rub <- that was pretty weird
[16:46]	matey	maybe someone should explain that he owns the team, not the players
[16:46]	matey	or maybe theyre just REALLY close friends of his :)
[16:46]	matey	"they rub my thighs too whenever my stocks go up"
[16:46]	matey	"oh well, i mean if theres consent then sure"
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[16:48]	bnchs__	" In April 2003 he even interrupted his skiing holiday in Switzerland to personally plead with the mayor of Munich not to switch to Linux."
[16:48]	bnchs__	yay i'm gonna go skiing!!!
[16:48]	matey	he should ski more.
[16:48]	bnchs__	LINUx ALERT LINUX ALERT
[16:48]	matey	like sonny bono.
[16:48]	bnchs__	OH NOOO BETTER ACT!!
[16:48]	matey	to the BALLMOBILE!
[16:50]	bnchs__	"pretty please don't switch to liunx!!!!"
[16:50]	bnchs__	"i need you!!"
[16:50]	MinceR	28 173500 < matey> rule #3: dont visit microsoft while bill gates is visiting jeff epstein
[16:50]	MinceR	how can you tell he's visiting jeff epstein though?
[16:50]	matey	linux could lead to google, and that could lead to dancing.
[16:51]	matey	 <MinceR> how can you tell he's visiting jeff epstein though? <- its not a very useful rule, and the media makes everything worse
[16:51]	matey	the media is always there to say why we need to get involved in illegal wars and kill iraqis to get back at saudi arabia.
[16:51]	matey	saudi arabia: "you missed!"
[16:51]	bnchs__	"But he did not succeed with this and Munich switched to LiMux, despite his offering a 35% discount at his lobbying visi"
[16:52]	matey	soldiers: "thanks! *shoots another iraqi*"
[16:52]	bnchs__	MISSION FAILED, WE'LL GET THEM NEXT TIME
[16:54]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sZqVUjziexk
[16:54]	TR Bot	 Next time Gadget - Invidious
[16:55]	bnchs__	steve has linux rent-free in his head
[16:55]	bnchs__	he has to interrupt his skiing holiday because a city decided to make their own linux distribution for the gov
[16:55]	matey	no, he gets royalties from android while he fucking kills google
[16:56]	matey	so its not rent-free, they pay rent
[16:56]	matey	because a city decided to make their own linux distribution for the gov <- nobody messes with microsoft and gets away with it!
[16:57]	MinceR	MICROS~1 is among the owners of Linux now
[16:57]	MinceR	https://linuxfoundation.org/our-members-are-our-superpower-2/
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[16:57]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Members - Linux Foundation
[16:58]	MinceR	they even got Linux to merge some of their incredibly poor quality code
[16:58]	matey	i love the megatron is based on barry white
[16:59]	matey	that
[16:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 362.43
[16:59]	matey	or so he says
[16:59]	matey	dr claw too
● Apr 28
[17:00]	MinceR	"Not The Craw! The Craw!"
[17:02]	matey	would you believe, two craws?
[17:02]	matey	sorry about that chief
[17:03]	bnchs__	matey: lol
[17:03]	bnchs__	but really
[17:03]	bnchs__	steve ballmer coming to beg munich to not switch to linux
[17:03]	bnchs__	and even offering a 35% discount
[17:03]	bnchs__	seems pathetic
[17:03]	matey	i never thought chrissie hynde was sexy until i realised shes basically 99 without the eating disorder
[17:04]	matey	<bnchs__> seems pathetic <- the word youre looking for is desperate, but obsessed and contrived also apply
[17:04]	matey	also greedy
[17:04]	MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgAG3Vnif8
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[17:04]	bnchs__	he was so desperate that i's pathetic
[17:04]	bnchs__	it's*
[17:05]	matey	oh mickey rooney you old racist
[17:06]	matey	"lefty?"
[17:07]	matey	"all americans look alike to us" XD
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[17:07]	matey	what a great show
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[17:11]	bnchs__	i just looked at an average clownflare headers
[17:11]	bnchs__	"permissions-policy
[17:11]	bnchs__	accelerometer=(),autoplay=(),camera=(),clipboard-read=(),clipboard-write=(),fullscreen=(),geolocation=(),gyroscope=(),hid=(),interest-cohort=(),magnetometer=(),microphone=(),payment=(),publickey-credentials-get=(),screen-wake-lock=(),serial=(),sync-xhr=(),usb=()"
[17:11]	bnchs__	wtf is payment
[17:12]	bnchs__	does clownflare use your bank account for payment?
[17:12]	activelow	regis vector graphics, sixels... why bother; adobe postscript, IBM Mapple freetype, SGI OpenGL we got instead, as "free software"
[17:12]	matey	https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3223003/Why-did-Chrissie-Hynde-date-one-Hells-Angels-raped-her.html
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[17:12]	TR Bot	 Chrissie Hynde dated the Hells Angels who raped her and then blamed herself for the attack | Daily Mail Online
[17:12]	matey	"She enraged feminists by blaming herself for the attack."
[17:13]	bnchs__	activelow, for the last time, opengl is a api standard
[17:13]	matey	whats the point of fighting abuse if you dont fucking understand it?
[17:13]	bnchs__	not software
[17:13]	bnchs__	you can implement a OpenGL API frontend for a software framebuffer driver
[17:13]	matey	victims often blame themselves, its part of the victimisation
[17:14]	matey	blaming the victim for blaming themseles is just another level of stupidity
[17:14]	activelow	bnchs__: i do not want such an API, nor any implementation of it (mesa/libdrm together with apple llvm)
[17:14]	MinceR	activelow: so, is DEC/Compaq/HP sixel better, then? :>
[17:14]	bnchs__	well that's up to you
[17:15]	bnchs__	but don't assume opengl is a software
[17:15]	bnchs__	or blame it for mesa issues
[17:15]	activelow	MinceR: sixel and regis were substantial for a fully capable unix tty... yet aren't available anymore
[17:15]	matey	DEC/Compaq/HP sixel <- i just blame satan, its easier
[17:15]	MinceR	:>
[17:16]	MinceR	and IRIX wasn't Unix? :>
[17:17]	matey	seven years of systemd, six sixels displaying, five mains a forking
[17:17]	MinceR	:>
[17:17]	bnchs__	blaming the specification for the implementation
[17:18]	matey	if theyre from the same people, sure
[17:18]	matey	if
[17:18]		*psydruid even compiled GNU for IRIX on his SGI Origin 2000 before trying to get GNU/Linux running on it
[17:18]	bnchs__	SGI didn't make mesa
[17:18]	matey	okay
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[17:19]	matey	sometimes the spec is at fault, i dont know (probably not) if its to blame here
[17:19]	activelow	https://linuxreviews.org/Notcurses
[17:19]	TR Bot	 Notcurses - LinuxReviews
[17:19]	matey	i suspect it would help if sgi was german
[17:19]	bnchs__	he blames SGI for mesa having microsoft crap
[17:19]	matey	some german infrastructure (sgi)
[17:19]	bnchs__	SGI was long bankrupt before microsoft took over mesa
[17:20]	matey	he blames SGI for mesa having microsoft crap <- he seems to think that attributing things to ibm and microsoft is some kind of pantomime rather than talking about who owns / controls / actually funds things
[17:20]	matey	SGI was long bankrupt before microsoft took over mesa <- right
[17:21]	matey	like blaming abraham lincoln for the faults of the town car
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[17:31]	psydruid	if SGI had built its business on Z80 hardware and ScimitarOS, it would probably still be around
[17:31]	MinceR	ScimitarOS?
[17:32]	psydruid	the precursor to GuillotineOS
[17:34]	matey	id only quibble with the name out of personal preference
[17:34]	matey	firingsquados
[17:34]	matey	its a quibble, its not meaningful
[17:36]	MinceR	:)
[17:37]	matey	incidently esr is the worst cherry picker historian ive ever seen
[17:37]	MinceR	BFSOS
[17:38]	matey	his ability to go through a (paper) encyclopedias worth of history, and find only what supports his narrative, without caveats
[17:38]	matey	makes every article on wikipedia look like a phd thesis by comparison
[17:38]	matey	he acts like rms is obsessed and single-minded, and he isnt
[17:39]	matey	if rms is autistic, esr is just psycho
[17:39]	matey	but im not sure whether hes "a little" psycho or a lot
[17:40]	matey	i dont think hes ever killed someone, so probably just a "little" bit psycho
[17:40]	matey	and yes, quotes needed
[17:41]	matey	hes either batshit or on the verge of batshit
[17:42]	matey	its funny because, ive never met anyone who cant tell the actual difference between life and video games
[17:42]	matey	yet here is esr... and hes the closest ive seen to that
[17:43]	MinceR	the leaders of the ICRC are like that too
[17:43]	MinceR	they practiced outragism against "war crimes" committed in video games
[17:46]	MinceR	http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Johnnie-Worker.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/12/the-only-thing-not-messed-up-is-the-red-lab-er-never-mind/ )
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[17:46]	TR Bot	 The only thing not messed up is the Red Lab, er never mind
[17:47]	bnchs__	red hat
[17:47]	bnchs__	red lab
[17:50]	activelow	meanwhile, got all conflicts and broken dependencies resolved now, and IBM Mapple freetype fully removed
[17:51]	matey	if you just say giafam youre going to be right 99% of the time
[17:51]	matey	wget has a dependency from facebook, on github
[17:52]	matey	wget is significant because openbsd has no tool (that i know of) to do what wget does
[17:52]	matey	its either curl or wget
[17:52]	matey	curl is github based, wgets gnu developer develops part of wget on github
[17:53]	matey	and pulls in a dep from facebooks github repo
[17:53]	matey	which is probably a great compression algorithm but id like to remove it anyway
[17:53]	activelow	i do not exclude software based on their vendor, first i verify technical qualities of it
[17:55]	matey	i do not exclude software based on their vendor, first i verify technical qualities of it <- then when you rely on projects that get killed off or corrupted by microsoft, you can tell people you ignored those warnings and listened to the inane babbling of "open source" and its "technical merit" bullshit
[17:55]	matey	meanwhile you attribute things to microsoft they have zero involvement with even in hosting
[17:55]	matey	in short, arbitrary bullshit
[17:55]	matey	but thats open source.
[17:56]	matey	not everything you do or conclude is like that
[17:57]	matey	step one, make decisions based on whatever
[17:57]	matey	step two, attribute to "
[17:57]	matey	technical merit"
[17:57]	matey	piece of cake. industry standard, really.
[17:58]	matey	some of it at least, is about technical merit
[17:58]	matey	but that doesnt stop people from using it as a placeholder phrase for absolutely whatever
[17:58]	matey	which is why its if interest to open source
[17:58]	matey	we can worry about meaning later. for now, WORDS!
[17:58]	matey	words that sound like the mean something
● Apr 28
[18:01]	matey	at this rate it will come down to whether buckles on shoes are absolutely necessary or cannot in all possible worlds be tolerated, void of any context
[18:01]	matey	at least it isnt all like that
[18:02]	psydruid	 WeaselwordOS
[18:02]	matey	citationneededos 
[18:03]	matey	some of the worst mistakes stallman ever made were of this variety
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[18:09]	DaemonFC	My mom was talking about how eccentric rich people are.
[18:10]	DaemonFC	I said, "Most of those eccentricities are just all about how they feel they own and are entitled to everything. It even bubbles up in small ways, like your friend's dad who was a millionaire from IBM and Coca Cola investments. And when he died, his kids were finding kitchen cabinets with thousands of ketchup packets he would pocket at McDonalds.".
[18:12]	DaemonFC	Even now, you can buy 64 ounces of ketchup for $2.92. And that's about 200 packets of ketchup? More maybe?
[18:12]	DaemonFC	So the guy had millions of dollars and would steal $1 worth of ketchup from McDonalds just to get away with it.
[18:13]	matey	Even now, you can buy 64 ounces of ketchup for $2.92. <- without hfcs? because i wont open most packets now, most brands contain unnecessary "sugar"
[18:13]	matey	id rather use hot sauce than ketchup with hfcs (even if ketchup is more delicious on chips for example)
[18:13]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Mom got a really CLEAN Buick off his daughter though. A 1968 Skylark convertible, bright red. No scratches, no rust. She only wanted $300 and it only had 25,000 miles on it.
[18:13]	DaemonFC	https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--7R18wDCk--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/18s455a7hmghejpg.jpg
[18:14]	DaemonFC	Looked like this.
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[18:14]	TR Bot	 Fwupd 1.8 Linux Firmware Updating Tool Is Out With Support for New Hardware, More | Tux Machines
[18:14]	DaemonFC	Only the paint was like fire engine red.
[18:14]	DaemonFC	I think he may have even had it redone with a clear coat.
[18:14]	DaemonFC	I mean it was SHARP.
[18:14]	DaemonFC	And mom had to sell it again because my dad was controlling her money and wouldn't give her enough to get the plates.
[18:15]	matey	we had someone like that in our family
[18:15]	matey	i never got to thank him for dying
[18:15]	DaemonFC	I told her "For me, that would have been the last straw. You know, 'I always wanted one of these and now it's mine!' and then some domineering husband won't even give me $50 of my own money to plate it.".
[18:16]	DaemonFC	Oh these old cars are great.
[18:16]	DaemonFC	YOu don't have to get them emissions tested. They're really fast because there's no pollution control nonsense on there putting back pressure on the engine or poisoning it with its own exhaust.
[18:17]	DaemonFC	There's almost no electronics, and what there are are very simple. Simple enough to operate with glass fuses.
[18:17]	DaemonFC	Your carburetor goes out, you can get a brand new one for $50. Your generator goes out. $50. You can do it yourself with some simple tools. It's all right there.
[18:18]	matey	but now that cars have systemd, its a different story
[18:18]	DaemonFC	My former pediatrician still drives 1970s Lincolns.
[18:18]	DaemonFC	She's still working, in her 90s.
[18:18]	DaemonFC	And she still drives 1970s Lincolns that look like they just came out of the factory.
[18:19]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=868DSi85odQ
[18:19]	TR Bot	 Hot Rod Lincoln - Invidious
[18:19]	DaemonFC	Her husband bought like 7 of them and he's a mechanic and got all the rust off of them.
[18:19]	DaemonFC	You have a husband like that and you'll never have too many car problems. He's out there all the time working on the cars just to do it.
[18:20]	DaemonFC	matey, I did the best I could when I bought that Buick. I'm having it rust repaired next week, but it's nothing terrible.
[18:20]	DaemonFC	For what I paid, you see them with so much rust on the body that you just give up and drive the car for as long as you can.
[18:21]	DaemonFC	But all of the rust on this thing is either on removable panels that you can just toss and replace or slight cosmetic touch up and it's gone.
[18:21]	DaemonFC	So it's getting new fenders and rocker panel.
[18:21]	DaemonFC	And then I don't need to worry about rust again for a nice long time.
[18:22]	DaemonFC	The fenders are pretty cheap as aftermarket parts. The part that gets you is paint and blend.
[18:22]	DaemonFC	There's some labor there so it's like 2/3rds of that job.
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[18:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Dad said that he would like to meet me, but his wife is scared of me. (Which is bullshit.) Also, that he stopped listening to Rush Limbaugh over NAFTA.
[18:35]	DaemonFC	I replied: Jan isn't scared. She's just so domineering of you and pompous and self-absorbed that she can't tolerate you doing anything that she doesn't sign off on and since she was barren she doesn't want to entertain the idea of having your kids around. Not that you're a lot better. You tried to cancel insurance that wasn't costing you anything on me and Collin, so, for example, I would have to suffer terribly from painful wisdom teeth that I 
[18:35]	DaemonFC	would not have been able to afford to extract for a while, so my mother had to schedule me in one day before my birthday to get all four of them out and beat your petty nonsense by one day. How do you even look at yourself?
[18:35]	DaemonFC	You know what Gustavo Fring said in Breaking Bad, right? To Walter. He said "A man provides for his family. Do you know what kind of man does not provide for his family? Not a man.". Mexican culture tends to be like that, to where even a drug lord would be repulsed by a man who takes things out on his own children to try to settle a score with his ex wife.
[18:35]	DaemonFC	I got the Internet connection myself. I didn't have any money for it but there was tulip mania in the DotCom market and they had the idea of free ad supported ISPs. So that's what I grabbed and used. Eventually I figured out how to crash the ad bar and later how to unscramble my password and bypass their software to dial out.
[18:35]	DaemonFC	It's weird that you stopped listening to Limbaugh over NAFTA but you backed Trump when he expanded it and bought a Chevy Equinox that is 100% Mexican on the Country of Origin Label due to Trump NAFTA. Also, the dairy farmers in Wisconsin who are committing suicide over cheap milk dumped from Canada would like a word with you, Mr. Farmer. Trump lost because he lost. The people up there may not like Biden but they know where Trump sent their job 
[18:35]	DaemonFC	to. They're not all that stupid.
[18:38]	DaemonFC	Addendum: The only significant pushback to Trump NAFTA was from the Democratic Party. It split the party down the middle in Congress. I think every Republican voted for it, and if they didn't, then it was nearly unanimous. There are at least a few Democrats who care what happens to our agriculture and auto industries.
[18:39]	DaemonFC	---
[18:39]	DaemonFC	I'm not in opposition to trade agreements, but NAFTA was predatory and Trump made it worse.
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[18:41]	DaemonFC	Threatening to remove us from NAFTA initially got my attention and increased my support of Donald Trump on that issue until I saw where he really went with it and was thoroughly disgusted. Ripping up NAFTA is not even comparable to a Brexit, which was terribly stupid and a self-inflicted gunshot wound. We would have reverted to the tariffs schedule on Mexico as it existed in 1994 and the United States-Canada Free Trade Agreement.
[18:41]	DaemonFC	The UK was never attached to a third world economy with no environmental or labor laws through the European Union common trade zone like we are with Mexico through NAFTA.
[18:42]	DaemonFC	So the EU actually was promoting efficiency in the trade bloc, and with Brexit, the UK has lost more jobs and consumers have had to pay more in taxes (tariffs) and it has slowed down their economy badly. Combined with COVID, it's damned near dead.
[18:43]	DaemonFC	And now that Johnson has succeeded in breaking the working class, he goes where they all do after that. Stoke racial tensions, gets the poor to blame the poorer.
[18:44]	DaemonFC	And so you have the "policing bill" and you had the "restaurant scheme" during COVID that even Roy said was the dumbest thing he'd ever seen but since there was a perverse incentive, he went for it like any rational person would.
[18:45]	DaemonFC	Illinois decided to put up all of the homeless in hotels to make it look like "not a hotel bailout package". I mean, the optics of empty hotel rooms with a bailout bill would have been too much.
[18:46]	DaemonFC	So the state actually almost caused _us_ to go homeless because I was paying monthy rates to stay in a motel by the highway and once the state enacted that program, the manager decided to raise the monthly rate by 30% overnight to soak the government, and that's when I got up and said "No matter what I have to do, we're finding an apartment.".
[18:46]	DaemonFC	*monthly
[18:47]	DaemonFC	And now that there's "no emergency", and everyone who died of COVID died of COVID despite the government tyranny.... No more housing for the homeless.
[18:47]	DaemonFC	Beat it. Get a job!
[18:48]	DaemonFC	The government only did this so it could "reform" the economy in ways that nobody would have accepted otherwise and flex its "we're the government and we will do anything we want" muscles like it does every couple decades to remind you all who daddy is.
[18:48]	DaemonFC	And then everyone who was going to die of COVID died of COVID anyway.
[18:49]	DaemonFC	People from San Francisco don't "get it".
[18:49]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ and jwz don't get it.
[18:49]	DaemonFC	You can tell from their comments about "COVID" that they just don't get what is happening, or part of them does and they just like not having any freedoms and so they're cheering a police state.
[18:50]	DaemonFC	I am too old for this bullshit already, and I'm not even 40 yet.
[18:50]	DaemonFC	So obviously I've matured faster.
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[18:59]	matey	I'm not in opposition to trade agreements, but NAFTA was predatory and Trump made it worse. <- nafta is to the usa what the eu is to europe
[18:59]	matey	something that is sold as benefitting someone other than corporations-- but of course, isnt
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[19:00]	matey	and everyone who sees that is accused of racism, even though lol it wasnt clinton that wanted it this time, was it
[19:00]	matey	 the EU actually was promoting efficiency in the trade bloc <- i mean all the predatory laws like what they wanted to do / did to the internet
[19:00]	DaemonFC	MinceR alluded to maybe Hungary being the closest thing to a Mexico they have.
[19:01]	DaemonFC	They send all the car manufacturing to Hungary but I doubt Hungary is as bad as Mexico is.
[19:01]	matey	give it time
[19:01]	DaemonFC	Thousands of people being murdered each year in a drug war due to a government whose police are all on the take and doesn't control anything.
[19:02]	matey	how many thousands?
[19:02]	matey	i mean i dont want to move there, just asking
[19:02]	DaemonFC	The figures I've seen say perhaps 6,000-8,000 people murdered every year for either being in the way or cartel-military clashes.
[19:02]	DaemonFC	It's bad.
[19:02]	matey	6000-8000 is definitely bad, its like 2 9/11s every year 
[19:02]	DaemonFC	I think it has gotten up over 10,000 before.
[19:03]	matey	but these days that seems small
[19:03]	DaemonFC	There's very little law and order in Mexico.
[19:03]	DaemonFC	There's lots of kidnappings even in the middle of their capitol city.
[19:03]	matey	thats bad
[19:03]	DaemonFC	If you're an American there's basically only a few places you can go where you'll be safe.
[19:04]	DaemonFC	The government concentrates their ability to enforce rule of law on a few vacation spots and manufacturing zones that get visited by tourists and businessmen.
[19:05]	matey	id actually want a second opinion from mjg since he lived in northern ireland
[19:05]	DaemonFC	Most of the people in Mexico are drinking Coca Cola instead of water because the water is poisonous and kills you now, but the Coke plant filters the water to turn it into Coke.
[19:05]	DaemonFC	So it kills you later. :)
[19:06]	DaemonFC	The Libertarian Party doesn't particularly like ICE or USCIS.
[19:06]	matey	i havent found many libertarians
[19:06]	DaemonFC	The position is that anyone who isn't causing harm to a US citizen and plans to support themselves should be allowed to live here.
[19:07]	matey	i dont mean in terms of voting
[19:07]	matey	i mean in equally important ways
[19:07]	matey	i mean among libertarians, i havent found many libertarians
[19:07]	matey	or maybe i was looking for left libertarians, i dont know
[19:07]	DaemonFC	Well, it's hard to do that because the elections are jacked up so only two parties can win.
[19:07]	matey	oh i know that
[19:08]	DaemonFC	And so social libertarians tend to vote for Democrats they don't like.
[19:08]	matey	thats too obvious
[19:08]	DaemonFC	While fiscal libertarians tend to vote for Republicans they don't like.
[19:08]	matey	yeah people like that are exactly what i wanted to get away from
[19:08]	DaemonFC	And the actual Libertarian Party only gets like 1-2% of the vote.
[19:08]	matey	its not a real democracy
[19:09]	DaemonFC	This whole pigfuck with the Pritzker Administration has me seriously wondering how I'll vote this year.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	I already requested a Republican primary ballot so that I can vote for Richard Irvin for Governor of Illinois.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	And if he doesn't win, I guess I'll just vote for the Libertarian candidate.
[19:10]	DaemonFC	It's weird because there's a lot of deep blue states that get Republican governors.
[19:10]	DaemonFC	So it's not out of the realm of possibility that it can happen in Illinois.
[19:10]	DaemonFC	It does happen sometimes.
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[19:10]	DaemonFC	The only reason Pritzker "won" is because Bruce Rauner blew it so badly as Governor, and he managed to sign off on laws that he didn't have to that damaged him with his own party.
[19:11]	DaemonFC	When he could have either vetoed them and been overruled or allow them to become law a week later without his signature.
[19:11]	DaemonFC	So it was like a comedy of unforced errors.
[19:11]	DaemonFC	And it was just so bizarre.
[19:12]	DaemonFC	Like, he should have vetoed it and said "I tried but there were so many Democrats in the legislature that I couldn't stop it. We have checks and balances and I am not the entire government. I tried.".
[19:13]	matey	right?
[19:13]	DaemonFC	It would be better than tossing his hands in the air and letting Jeanne Ives run attack ads that split the party in half.
[19:13]	activelow	surprise: build-time failure of adobe ghostscript-gpl without mapple freetype available, although ghostscript got a configure switch to remove freetype
[19:13]	activelow	^ "free software"
[19:13]	MinceR	http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/new-human-board.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/01/human-board-is-made-of-people/ )
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[19:13]	TR Bot	 Human Board is made of PEOPLE!
[19:14]	DaemonFC	Geico: Your cornering isn't so good.
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[19:14]	DaemonFC	Me: "You know what else sucks? Slowing down to 5 miles an hour and pissing EVERYONE off so your stinking app can say I'm cornering like a lunatic."
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[19:15]	DaemonFC	Then again, some parts are good. I have a perfect score on hard braking and not using my phone while driving.
[19:16]	mjg59_	matey: The worst year of the troubles was 479 deaths, which per-capita was far worse than Mexico is now
[19:16]	matey	http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/new-human-board.jpg  https://www.fsf.org/about/board-of-directors-code-of-ethics
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[19:16]	TR Bot	 Board of Directors Code of Ethics Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[19:17]	matey	 surprise: build-time failure of adobe ghostscript-gpl without mapple freetype available, although ghostscript <- you do need a font renderer to render fonts, yes
[19:17]	matey	considering what freetype and ghostscript are, this doesnt seem frivolous
[19:18]	matey	Then again, some parts are good. I have a perfect score on hard braking and not using my phone while driving. <- im not the least bit comfortable with that level of surveillance
[19:19]	matey	im not inserting a probe for my health insurance either
[19:19]	matey	"just keep this sensor array in your arse for a few weeks while we monitor your daily habits" no
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[19:42]	DaemonFC	I told my dad: "You're about as stable as Johnny Depp's ex-wife. She too showed up to court to perjure herself and nobody bought what she was selling. Anyway, what kind of a sick person tells a 15 year old they'll be dead of AIDS in a few years because they're gay? Guess what, moron. I'm almost 40 and still perfectly fine. Just another one of your lies. Maybe you need to get more medication. You've made it your life's mission to be so mean that 
[19:42]	DaemonFC	the only person who won't leave you is Jan, because she can't. Chew on that."
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[19:43]	MinceR	(fox) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrSdiqp0Dpk
[19:43]	TR Bot	https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=nrSdiqp0Dpk
[19:43]	TR Bot	invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Fox Village in Japan: The Fluffiest Place on Earth! (Miyagi Zao, Shiroishi) - Invidious
[19:51]	activelow	with sixel support, various text browser such as links didn't need special support for framebuffer... illustrations could be plotted into virtual terminal, not the framebuffer
[19:51]	activelow	that's an important difference, and too it points to conceptual problems of adobe ghostscript with mapple freetype fonts
[19:53]	activelow	and such type of products and standards, were pushed for commercial interests
[19:53]	activelow	soon i'll review some TeX related, and what happened there, with which formats...
[19:54]	activelow	to see, what remains without malicious contributors from ibm, apple, microsoft, adobe etc.
[19:57]	activelow	and mapple freetype is _not_ necessary to output fonts such as linux PSF ones or X11 PCF
[19:58]	activelow	stumbled upon another minor build-time breakage against removed freetype within X11, which is fixed already... and i am absolutely certain i will see fonts in X11
[19:58]	activelow	without any of the non-free malicious components
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[20:02]	activelow	and it is noteworthy still, "free software" terminal emulators got no ReGIS vector graphics nor sixel support
[20:03]	psydruid	https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/28/rockchip-rk3566-soc-gets-into-150-anbernic-rg503-gaming-handheld-with-oled-display/
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[20:03]	TR Bot	 Rockchip RK3566 SoC gets into $150 Anbernic RG503 gaming handheld with OLED display - CNX Software
[20:03]	psydruid	https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/odin-the-ultimate-gaming-handheld#/
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[20:03]	TR Bot	The Ultimate Gaming Handheld | Indiegogo
[20:09]	TR News	Shadow of the EPO or EPOnia Nationalised? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/reign-of-lukashenko-in-belarus/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/28/reign-of-lukashenko-in-belarus/
[20:09]	TR Bot	 Shadow of the EPO or EPOnia Nationalised? | Techrights
[20:10]	TR News	Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Beta is out and is ready to take your servers to new heights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164252
[20:10]	TR Bot	 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Beta is out and is ready to take your servers to new heights | Tux Machines
[20:11]	TR News	"I feel we should all embrace the middle. Nothing is absolute. Polarised politics is causing chaos and leading to contemptible muppets having undeserved power." gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/stug/phlog/20220428.txt
[20:25]	TR News	Free enterprise systems management tool Uyuni releases stable version Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164253
[20:25]	TR Bot	 Free enterprise systems management tool Uyuni releases stable version | Tux Machines
[20:25]	TR News	Whats New in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish"? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164254
[20:25]	TR Bot	 What's New in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish"? | Tux Machines
[20:34]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164255
[20:34]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:37]	MinceR	(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/jN1JrA2
[20:37]	TR Bot	daily Istanbul kitty - Album on Imgur
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[20:47]	TR News	Lunduke Touches an Important Set of Issues, But Still Gets Pertinent Details a Little Wrong | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/straw-men-issue/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/28/straw-men-issue/
[20:47]	TR Bot	 Lunduke Touches an Important Set of Issues, But Still Gets Pertinent Details a Little Wrong | Techrights
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[20:50]	TR News	Like the EPO in Munich, the Batka of Belarus does not tolerate questioning or dissent; elections are moreover rigged or "fixed"; today we look at the Battistelli of Belarus as this sheds light on where the EPO is sending business via shells and proxies of course http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/belarus-opposition/
[20:50]	TR Bot	 From Belarus With Love Part VI: Big Daddy Hammers the Opposition | Techrights
[20:51]	TR News	Management of the EPO behaves a lot like Lukashenko in Belarus; today weve looked at how Lukashenko thwarted perceived threats vying to end his 28-year reign in a democratic fashion http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/reign-of-lukashenko-in-belarus/
[20:51]	TR News	There are arguments that are worth correcting; following straw man arguments from Lunduke about the Linux Foundations involvement in vaccine passports [1, 2] we now see a number of similar claims about OSI and Mozilla. I respond in video form. http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/straw-men-issue/
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[20:57]	TR News	How Raspberry Pi Detects Malware Using Electromagnetic Waves https://linuxhint.com/raspberry-pi-detect-malware/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW 
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[20:57]	TR Bot	 How Raspberry Pi Detects Malware Using Electromagnetic Waves
[20:58]	bnchs__	"Detects Malware Using Electromagnetic Waves"
[20:58]	bnchs__	sounds interesting and retarded at the same time
[20:58]	bnchs__	must read
[20:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 312.86
[20:59]	bnchs__	the article says little info about how it does it
[20:59]	bnchs__	it's probably a bunch of bullshit
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[21:00]	TR News	GitHub is malware and surveillance by criminals. Don't follow advice like this... https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-github-desktop-on-pop_os-22-04-lts/
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[21:00]	TR Bot	to Install GitHub Desktop on Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS - LinuxCapable
[21:02]	TR News	More malware pushed to GNU/Linux users. This one gets root. Microsoft compromises your GNU/Linux box. https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-skype-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
[21:02]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxcapable.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-skype-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-skype-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
[21:02]	TR Bot	to Install Skype on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - LinuxCapable
[21:06]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs__: it did sound off
[21:06]	schestowitz-TR	*odd
[21:12]	TR News	Toyota keeps donating to Republicans who supported the coup attempt. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/toyota-keeps-donating-to-republicans-who-supported-the-coup-attempt/ Source: baronhk
[21:12]	TR Bot	 Toyota keeps donating to Republicans who supported the coup attempt. BaronHK's Rants
[21:13]	TR News	Bullshit. This helps Gulag lie. They collect the data, pass it on, then let you hide it from yourself, not the government etc. https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-remove-personal-information-from-search/
[21:13]	TR Bot	 Google Now Allows You to Remove Personal Information from Search - Make Tech Easier
[21:14]	TR News	Microsoft is largely responsible for the Russian attacks on Ukraine's tech side. But Bruce Schneier helps Microsoft lies about the whole thing. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/microsoft-issues-report-of-russian-cyberattacks-against-ukraine.html
[21:14]	TR Bot	Issues Report of Russian Cyberattacks against Ukraine - Schneier on Security
[21:17]	TR News	Microsoft puts back doors in things and has actively exploited zero-day flaws; so it seems to have weaponised the media to libel "Linux" and distract from Microsoft's culpability https://www.securityweek.com/how-linux-became-new-bullseye-bad-guys
[21:17]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: securityweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.securityweek.com/how-linux-became-new-bullseye-bad-guys https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.securityweek.com/how-linux-became-new-bullseye-bad-guys
[21:17]	TR Bot	Linux Became the New Bullseye for Bad Guys | SecurityWeek.Com
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[21:18]	TR News	"PopOS! 22.04 has a surprise you might not have noticed, we get the details on Ubuntus new Real-Time kernel, and the clever idea from the Framework laptop team." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148422/linux-action-news-238/
[21:18]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148422/linux-action-news-238/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148422/linux-action-news-238/
[21:18]	TR Bot	 Linux Action News 238 | Jupiter Broadcasting
[21:19]	TR News	"In this video, I am going to show an overview of Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DoBF9mctSQg
[21:19]	TR Bot	 Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS overview | Streamline your Workflow. - Invidious
[21:22]	TR News	Godot Engine - Godot Sprint and User Meeting Barcelona June 2022 https://godotengine.org/article/godot-sprint-and-user-meeting-barcelona-june-2022 Source: godotengine
[21:22]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/godot-sprint-and-user-meeting-barcelona-june-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://godotengine.org/article/godot-sprint-and-user-meeting-barcelona-june-2022
[21:22]	TR Bot	 Godot Engine - Godot Sprint and User Meeting Barcelona June 2022
[21:22]	TR News	Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 7 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-7 Source: godotengine
[21:22]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-7 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-7
[21:22]	TR Bot	 Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 7
[21:23]	TR News	Bugsnax out on Steam, looking good on Steam Deck but tweak needed on Linux desktop | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/bugsnax-out-on-steam-looking-good-on-steam-deck-but-tweak-needed-on-linux-desktop/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
[21:23]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/bugsnax-out-on-steam-looking-good-on-steam-deck-but-tweak-needed-on-linux-desktop/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/bugsnax-out-on-steam-looking-good-on-steam-deck-but-tweak-needed-on-linux-desktop/
[21:23]	TR Bot	out on Steam, looking good on Steam Deck but tweak needed on Linux desktop | GamingOnLinux
[21:25]	TR News	Red Hat does not even use "Open Source" to make this report https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-state-enterprise-open-source-report-telecommunications-industry-highlights see http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/
[21:25]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: redhat.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-state-enterprise-open-source-report-telecommunications-industry-highlights https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-state-enterprise-open-source-report-telecommunications-industry-highlights
[21:25]	TR Bot	 Red Hats The State of Enterprise Open Source report : Telecommunications industry highlights
[21:25]	TR Bot	 Red Hats State of Enterprise Open Source Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | Techrights
[21:25]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164256
[21:25]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[21:26]	TR News	"Launched today, Access Nows new report, The return of digital authoritarianism: internet shutdowns in 2021, sheds light on Russias further down sliding into digital authoritarianism over the course of last year, exploring how previous actions have led to todays reality of blocked Facebook" https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/
[21:26]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/
[21:26]	TR Bot	 Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now
[21:27]	TR News	Microsoft viciously attacks Linux while so-called 'Linux' Foundation grins and continues lying for Microsoft while taking bribes from it
[21:29]	TR News	But will they finally prosecute and arrest Microsoft executives for their crimes? Much more severe than antitrust abuses? https://www.project-disco.org/competition/042822-leading-antitrust-enforcers-criticize-antitrust-bills-targeting-large-tech-firms/ see http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323
[21:29]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: project-disco.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/042822-leading-antitrust-enforcers-criticize-antitrust-bills-targeting-large-tech-firms/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/042822-leading-antitrust-enforcers-criticize-antitrust-bills-targeting-large-tech-firms/
[21:29]	TR Bot	 Leading Antitrust Enforcers Criticize Antitrust Bills Targeting Large Tech Firms - Disruptive Competition Project
[21:29]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
[21:30]	TR News	ICBM looking for slaves: "Help Wanted in Q2 2022" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/mindshare-committee-quarterly-report-q1-2022/
[21:30]	TR Bot	 Mindshare Committee Quarterly Report - Q1 2022 Fedora Community Blog
[21:30]	TR News	Not so Smart: The SMART Copyright Acts Dangerous Approach to Online Copyright Protection - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/not-so-smart-the-smart-copyright-acts-dangerous-approach-to-online-copyright-protection/ Source: publicknowledge
[21:30]	TR Bot	 Not so Smart: The SMART Copyright Acts Dangerous Approach to Online Copyright Protection - Public Knowledge
[21:31]	bnchs__	schestowitz-TR, same
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[21:31]	bnchs__	i don't know how would you detect malware via electromagnetic waves
[21:31]	bnchs__	that's like pseudo science
[21:31]	mib_j15jek	Why are you talking to yourself?
[21:32]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[21:32]	SomeH4x0r	the fact you don't see logs does not mean there are none
[21:32]	TR News	"technology alone wasnt going to get us where we needed to be; people needed to invest time to learn and use the platforms that we had put in place." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/digital-acumen-impact-business-success
[21:32]	TR Bot	 3 ways building digital acumen can impact business success | The Enterprisers Project
[21:32]	SomeH4x0r	check them out on https://techrights.org tomorrow, I guess
[21:32]	TR Bot	 Welcome to Techrights
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[21:33]	schestowitz-TR	trolls from gateways
[21:34]	bnchs__	lol
[21:34]	bnchs__	webchat always brings trolls
[21:34]	bnchs__	example: stallman talk
[21:34]	schestowitz-TR	you lower the acess barriere
[21:34]	schestowitz-TR	and you get low-lives
[21:35]	schestowitz-TR	that's one reason to not be in freenode
[21:35]	schestowitz-TR	easy means bad things too 
[21:35]	schestowitz-TR	outsource linux to shithub, get bad patch requests
[21:35]	schestowitz-TR	to use ananalogy
[21:35]	schestowitz-TR	people who cannot use real email
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	(not gmail/web page as "message")
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	cannot produce good kernel code
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	and people who don't know how to use an iRC clients
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	likely don't have much to contribute to "tech rights"
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	likely
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	not always
[21:36]	TR News	"Nice to see a title with full Linux support too, with a Native Linux build available." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/trigon-space-story-is-a-fresh-ftl-like-space-strategy-game-out-now/
[21:36]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/trigon-space-story-is-a-fresh-ftl-like-space-strategy-game-out-now/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/trigon-space-story-is-a-fresh-ftl-like-space-strategy-game-out-now/
[21:36]	TR Bot	Space Story is a fresh FTL-like space strategy game out now | GamingOnLinux
[21:36]	bnchs__	webchats make it easy to troll
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	yes, cheap
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	and hard to detect
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	also large irc network
[21:38]	schestowitz-TR	 /join #fsf
[21:38]	schestowitz-TR	RMS [something offensive] [something offensive] [something offensive]
[21:38]	schestowitz-TR	[closes tab
[21:38]	bnchs__	swastikas
[21:38]	bnchs__	and N-words
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	next challenge:
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	detect with "hey hi"
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	a swastika
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	not un unicode
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	and not used as a peace symbol in asia
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	and detect is the N word is used by a black person
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	in which case it is not offensive
[21:40]	schestowitz-TR	maybe sort out the racial profiling of irc users..
[21:43]	TR News	'Public Knowledge' has just been infiltrated by Microsoft, so it is more likely to help cover up Microsofts crimes than promote actual knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-new-members-to-board-of-directors/
[21:43]	TR Bot	 Public Knowledge Welcomes New Members to Board of Directors - Public Knowledge
[21:44]	TR News	Beelink SER 4 Ryzen 7 Mini PC Ships with Manjaro Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164229#comment-33483
[21:44]	TR Bot	 Beelink SER 4 4800U X pairs a Ryzen 7 CPU with Manjaro Linux | Tux Machines
[21:46]	TR News	Site called "Linux security" helps Microsoft smear "Linux" to deflect attention away from Microsoft's own catastrophes, which are costing lives already https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/microsoft-warns-these-flaws-could-give-attackers-root-privileges-on-linux-desktops see http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
[21:46]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxsecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/microsoft-warns-these-flaws-could-give-attackers-root-privileges-on-linux-desktops https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/microsoft-warns-these-flaws-could-give-attackers-root-privileges-on-linux-desktops
[21:46]	TR Bot	 Microsoft warns: These flaws could give attackers root privileges o...
[21:46]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
[21:46]	bnchs__	schestowitz-TR, i'm pretty sure nobody would spam the N-word 100 times unless it was a troll
[21:46]	bnchs__	or spam a big block of swastika
[21:47]	TR News	Games: Godot Engine, Bugsnax, Trigon: Space Story, Kaiju Wars Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164257
[21:47]	TR Bot	 Games: Godot Engine, Bugsnax, Trigon: Space Story, Kaiju Wars | Tux Machines
[21:49]	TR News	"The apparent standstill of Windows 11 adoption is continuing for a second month, according to figures from ad platform AdDuplex." So Microsoft attacks Linux now. Frauds like Zemlin do nothing but take bribes. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/adduplex_windows_11/
[21:49]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/adduplex_windows_11/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/adduplex_windows_11/
[21:49]	TR Bot	 Windows 11 'isn't growing', but 10 21H2 added 6.5% report The Register
[21:50]	TR News	Mesa already infiltrated by Microsoft to PROMOTE WINDOWS https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-22.1-rc3 see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/phoronix-and-microsoft-mesa/
[21:50]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-22.1-rc3 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-22.1-rc3
[21:50]	TR Bot	22.1-rc3 Released With Backports For Intel Raptor Lake P, Zink/Kopper On Windows - Phoronix
[21:50]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Thinks It Owns Mesa (and Computer Games) | Techrights
[21:51]	TR News	Internet Shutdowns Rocket As Governments Crack Down On Dissent https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2022/04/28/internet-shutdowns-rocket-as-governments-crack-down-on-dissent/?sh=74d7afbf3613
[21:51]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2022/04/28/internet-shutdowns-rocket-as-governments-crack-down-on-dissent/?sh=74d7afbf3613 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2022/04/28/internet-shutdowns-rocket-as-governments-crack-down-on-dissent/?sh=74d7afbf3613
[21:51]	TR Bot	 Internet Shutdowns Rocket As Governments Crack Down On Dissent
[21:52]	TR News	Internet shutdowns in 2021 report: digital authoritarianism returning across the globe https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-global-keepiton-2021/
[21:52]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-global-keepiton-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-global-keepiton-2021/
[21:52]	TR Bot	 Internet shutdowns in 2021: digital authoritarianism returning globally
[21:52]	TR News	Internet shutdowns in 2021 report: MENA in the dark https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-mena-keepiton-2021/
[21:52]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-mena-keepiton-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-mena-keepiton-2021/
[21:52]	TR Bot	 Report: Internet shutdowns in the Middle East and North Africa in 2021
[21:53]	TR News	Over 100 Internet Shutdowns Imposed in India in 2021 The Most in the World: New Report https://thewire.in/government/over-100-internet-shutdowns-imposed-in-india-in-2021-the-most-in-the-world-new-report
[21:53]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thewire.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thewire.in/government/over-100-internet-shutdowns-imposed-in-india-in-2021-the-most-in-the-world-new-report https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://thewire.in/government/over-100-internet-shutdowns-imposed-in-india-in-2021-the-most-in-the-world-new-report
[21:53]	TR Bot	 Over 100 Internet Shutdowns Imposed in India in 2021 The Most in the World: New Report
[21:53]	TR News	Internet shutdowns in 2021 report: resistance in the face of blackouts in Africa https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-africa-keepiton-2021/
[21:53]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-africa-keepiton-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-africa-keepiton-2021/
[21:53]	TR Bot	 Report: Who shut down the internet in Africa in 2021?
[21:54]	TR News	India continues to hold top position in internet shutdowns: Access Now | Business Standard News https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/india-continues-to-hold-top-position-in-internet-shutdowns-access-now-122042800628_1.html Source: business-standard
[21:54]	TR Bot	 India continues to hold top position in internet shutdowns: Access Now | Business Standard News
[21:54]	TR News	Internet shutdowns in 2021: the return of digital authoritarianism https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-2021/
[21:54]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-2021/
[21:54]	TR Bot	 Report: Who shut down the internet in 2021?
[21:55]	TR News	Empty promises? Declaration for Future of the Internet is nice on paper - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/declaration-for-future-internet/ Source: accessnow
[21:55]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/declaration-for-future-internet/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/declaration-for-future-internet/
[21:55]	TR Bot	 Empty promises? Declaration for Future of the Internet is nice on paper - Access Now
[21:55]	TR News	Internet shutdowns in 2021 report: India is the worlds largest offender https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-india-keepiton-2021/
[21:55]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-india-keepiton-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-india-keepiton-2021/
[21:55]	TR Bot	 Report: Internet shutdowns in India in 2021
[21:55]	TR News	The return of digital authoritarianism: internet shutdowns in 2021 https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-2021-report [PDF]
[21:55]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-2021-report https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-2021-report
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[21:56]	TR News	India country with most internet shutdowns for 4th time, 85 in J&K alone: Report | Latest News India - Hindustan Times https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-country-with-most-internet-shutdowns-for-4th-time-85-in-j-k-alone-report-101651135980603.html Source: hindustantimes
[21:56]	TR Bot	 India country with most internet shutdowns for 4th time, 85 in J&K alone: Report | Latest News India - Hindustan Times
[21:56]	TR News	Internet Shutdowns Surge From India to Russia After Covid Dip https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-28/internet-shutdowns-surge-from-india-to-russia-after-covid-dip
[21:56]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[21:57]	TR News	Proprietary software: "Cisco has released security updates to address vulnerabilities in multiple Cisco products. An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/27/cisco-releases-security-updates-multiple-products
[21:57]	TR Bot	 Cisco Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA
[21:59]	TR News	Orra White Hitchcocks Scientific Illustrations for the Classroom (182840) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/hitchcock-illustrations/ Source: publicdomainreview
[21:59]	TR Bot	 Orra White Hitchcocks Scientific Illustrations for the Classroom (182840) The Public Domain Review
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[22:02]	TR News	Microsofts Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164258
[22:02]	TR Bot	 Microsoft's Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:04]	TR News	Apples Big Fat Nothing Burger " The Repair Association https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/4/27/03kl2m5moyqurmstbvckhaoqi3btxq Source: righttorepair
[22:04]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: repair.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/4/27/03kl2m5moyqurmstbvckhaoqi3btxq https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/4/27/03kl2m5moyqurmstbvckhaoqi3btxq
[22:04]	TR Bot	 Apple's Big Fat Nothing Burger The Repair Association
[22:05]	TR News	The old Torvalds would have blasted Microsoft for this, but now 3 of his bosses are full-time Microsoft employees. Goodbye, independent Linus. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wihuvzVTozzNLZT=uFzJH6uM7ZNKN7fYVpm0v2KkY6Jxg@mail.gmail.com/
[22:05]	TR Bot	 Re: NTFS3 driver is orphan already. What we do? - Linus Torvalds
[22:07]	TR News	To Linux, Microsoft is a saboteur that lies, bribes, and corrupt everyone to actively undermine adoption of Linux. Zemlin and the other frauds sold us out for personal gain.
[22:07]	TR News	Patents are NOT rightrs https://blog.opensource.org/gnome-patent-troll-stripped-of-patent-rights/ also see http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation#Shotwell_lawsuit
[22:07]	TR Bot	 GNOME patent troll stripped of patent rights
[22:07]	TR Bot	 GNOME Foundation - Techrights
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[22:09]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/28/cisa-and-fbi-update-advisory-destructive-malware-targeting see http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/
[22:09]	TR Bot	 CISA and FBI Update Advisory on Destructive Malware Targeting Organizations in Ukraine | CISA
[22:09]	TR Bot	 Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights
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[22:10]	TR News	"If you intend to apply for a DebConf22 bursary and/or submit an event proposal and have not yet done so, please proceed as soon as possible!" https://bits.debian.org/2022/04/debconf22-bursaries-and-cfp-last-call.html
[22:10]	TR Bot	 DebConf22 bursary applications and call for papers are closing in less than 72 hours! - Bits from Debian
[22:10]	bnchs	lol
[22:11]	bnchs	if nobody maintains the NTFS drivers
[22:11]	bnchs	then this might be the last week linux kernel supports NTFS
[22:11]	TR News	Attacking users with older machines spun as "starts to simplify Linux graphics handling" https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/27/fedora_starts_to_simplify_linux/
[22:11]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/27/fedora_starts_to_simplify_linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/27/fedora_starts_to_simplify_linux/
[22:11]	TR Bot	 Fedora dev team starts to simplify Linux graphics handling The Register
[22:14]	activelow	"Fedora 36 release will remove the old fbdev driver, leaving only DRM and KMS" <- idiots
[22:15]	activelow	"later this year, it's proposed that the driver be removed from the X.org server as well" <- why? it is fast and stable
[22:15]	bnchs	2040: "Fedora 100 release will remove the old OpenGL driver, leaving only Vulkan and DirectX"
[22:16]	activelow	some argument being, because UEFI... framebuffer isn't a concern of UEFI
[22:16]	activelow	it is conceptual rubbish, what fedora devs are planning
[22:16]	activelow	braindead nonsense
[22:17]	activelow	"simpledrm will replace fbdev, but it's not yet possible to completely remove this, partly because fbcon, the kernel console driver" <- simpledrm for what?
[22:18]	bnchs	simpleDRM
[22:18]	bnchs	digital restrictment management
[22:18]	activelow	"KMS to configure a console graphics mode, enabling people to use other alphabets and writing systems" <- nonsenes
[22:21]	activelow	if this type of intellect continues dictating there won't be any linux remaining
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[22:21]	activelow	with GCC they made considerable progress already, kernel isn't left far behind this type of "innovation", userspace is poisoned with rubbish
[22:22]	bnchs	activelow, "there won't be any linux remaining" you got that right
[22:22]	bnchs	the old linus would have straightened the shit out of the mailing list
[22:22]	bnchs	and reject bad patches and ideas
[22:23]	bnchs	but unfortunately things like that don't last
[22:24]	bnchs	the old linus was like gordon ramsay
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[22:34]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164259
[22:34]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:35]	TR News	"After 2 editions cancelled due to the pandemic, the famous Embedded Recipes and Kernel Recipes conferences are back: they will take place end of May and beginning of June in Paris!" https://bootlin.com/blog/bootlin-at-embedded-recipes-and-kernel-recipes-2022-paris/
[22:35]	TR Bot	at Embedded Recipes and Kernel Recipes 2022, Paris - Bootlin's blog
[22:36]	TR News	Management is NOT an art https://newsletter.bringthedonuts.com/p/the-art-of-product-management?s=r
[22:36]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bringthedonuts.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newsletter.bringthedonuts.com/p/the-art-of-product-management?s=r https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://newsletter.bringthedonuts.com/p/the-art-of-product-management?s=r
[22:36]	TR Bot	 The Art of Product Management - by Ken Norton
[22:37]	TR News	"Evan, meanwhile, tries out his new microphone and complains bitterly about tech hardware obsolescence." https://anchor.fm/tic-tek-toe/episodes/The-Obsolescence-Episode-e1hpucg
[22:37]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: anchor.fm | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://anchor.fm/tic-tek-toe/episodes/The-Obsolescence-Episode-e1hpucg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://anchor.fm/tic-tek-toe/episodes/The-Obsolescence-Episode-e1hpucg
[22:37]	TR Bot	 The Obsolescence Episode by TIC TEK TOE
[22:41]	TR News	Richard Hughes: fwupd 1.8.0 and 50 million updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164251#comment-33484
[22:41]	TR Bot	 Fwupd 1.8 Linux Firmware Updating Tool Is Out With Support for New Hardware, More | Tux Machines
[22:42]	TR News	Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS, Linux Action News, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164260
[22:42]	TR Bot	 Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS, Linux Action News, and More | Tux Machines
[22:43]	TR News	Is Rocky Linux the new CentOS? https://www.howtogeek.com/devops/is-rocky-linux-the-new-centos/ Unlike AlmaLinux, it's NOT in bed with Microsoft
[22:43]	TR Bot	 Is Rocky Linux the new CentOS?
[22:47]	TR News	Rocky Linux and Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164261
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Rocky Linux and Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:47]	TR News	Voyager Live 22.04 http://voyagerlive.org/
[22:48]	TR Bot	 
[22:48]	TR News	Kodachi 8.21 is out in Oman https://www.digi77.com/linux-kodachi/
[22:48]	TR Bot	 Linux Kodachi 8.21 The Secure OS | Eagle Eye | Nonprofit Organization
[22:49]	TR News	Ubuntu Christian Edition has just had a new LTS release as well https://ubuntuce.com/ I still remember ME, Muslim Edition, almost 15 years ago
[22:49]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Christian Edition -- Linux For Christians
[22:50]	MinceR	i still remember Satanic Edition which was cancelled
[22:50]	TR News	Linus Torvalds acting like a coward now that 3 FULL-TIME staff of Microsoft are his MANAGERS https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linus-Torvalds-NTFS3-Comments see http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/
[22:50]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linus-Torvalds-NTFS3-Comments https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linus-Torvalds-NTFS3-Comments
[22:50]	TR Bot	Torvalds Comments On The NTFS Linux Driver Situation - Phoronix
[22:50]	TR Bot	 [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights
[22:50]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: Satan Bacon
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	he came to visit with a trademark pitchfork
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	memory lane might still have that info
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	but the web forgets fast
[22:51]	MinceR	and so we know which religions canonical likes, beside that of MICROS~1, which is number 1 for them
[22:51]	schestowitz-TR	"community managers" = hobbyist, unqualified lawyer who shouts heavy metal
[22:52]	schestowitz-TR	Satanic Edition was reserved
[22:52]	schestowitz-TR	for Microsoft
[22:52]	MinceR	no, MICROS~1 outdoes satan at evil
[22:53]	TR News	Microsoft did the same thing! Microsoft is a religion. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/almost_twothirds_of_smics_shanghai/
[22:53]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/almost_twothirds_of_smics_shanghai/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/almost_twothirds_of_smics_shanghai/
[22:53]	TR Bot	 60% of SMIC's Shanghai employees living at work, says firm The Register
[22:53]	TR News	CLOWNFLARE ITSELF is the attack. Seems like The Reg is running PR or reposting PR for the clowns. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/cloudflare-largest-ddos-attack-/
[22:53]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/cloudflare-largest-ddos-attack-/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/cloudflare-largest-ddos-attack-/
[22:53]	TR Bot	 Cloudflare stomps on 15.3 million requests per second DDoS The Register
[22:54]	TR News	Say No to Qt................ Style Sheets https://www.kdab.com/say-no-to-qt-style-sheets/
[22:54]	TR Bot	No to Qt Style Sheets - KDAB
[22:55]	psydruid	and systemshitd is taking 2 minutes to shut down again
[22:55]	MinceR	well, at least it's a finite amount
[22:55]	TR News	"Proprietary software" is there Qt goes under in Techrights daily links. Qt isn't Free software or even "Open Source". It just used to be...
[22:55]	MinceR	often it takes an infinite amount of time to shut down
[22:56]	TR News	MinceR will like this... https://www.qt.io/blog/running-doom-on-qt-quick-ultralight
[22:56]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/running-doom-on-qt-quick-ultralight https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.qt.io/blog/running-doom-on-qt-quick-ultralight
[22:56]	TR Bot	 Running Doom on Qt for MCUs
[22:56]	MinceR	i'm not a big fan of Qt Quick because of how unreliable it is
[22:57]	TR News	But MinceR will NOT like THIS: https://www.qt.io/blog/digital-advertising-use-cases-and-best-practices Qt is pushing in the direction of spyware, even worse than ordinary proprietary toolkit
[22:57]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/digital-advertising-use-cases-and-best-practices https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.qt.io/blog/digital-advertising-use-cases-and-best-practices
[22:57]	TR Bot	 Digital advertising Use cases and best practices
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[22:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 432.36
[22:59]	TR News	"I am new to Gemini space. I was attracted at first by the promise that it would work more consistently on my device than the mainstream internet, but I actually rather like it here" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/909
● Apr 28
[23:00]	TR News	"Browsing Gemini on my phone after dinner, slightly fuzzy from cooking with wine (though none went into the food). I'm grateful for the people writing on Gemini and Gopher. There's so much to be fond of." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/908
[23:01]	TR News	etnaviv: gc7000 r6204 support (!9255) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/9255 Source: gitlab
[23:01]	TR Bot	 etnaviv: gc7000 r6204 support (!9255) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
[23:01]	psydruid	systems and at must be put out to pasture and out of their misery
[23:01]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/jerry-app-for-car-insurance-does-it-again-fake-prices/
[23:01]	TR Bot	 Jerry App for car insurance does it again. Fake prices. BaronHK's Rants
[23:01]	psydruid	systemd*
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Yes, and Ubuntu left Christian Edition alone.
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Even though that violated their trademarks as well.
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Canonical claimed that they went after Satanic Edition because if they didn't defend their trademarks they could lose them.
[23:03]	DaemonFC	So not going after Christian Edition means that they secretly gave them permission to use the Ubuntu name or abandoned their trademark on Ubuntu.
[23:04]	DaemonFC	Trademarks can get genericized even if they actually still are protected.
[23:05]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164262
[23:05]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[23:06]	TR News	SUSE shilling proprietary software. Don't forget what SUSE stands for. It's just a SAP and Microsoft reseller among other thing... https://www.suse.com/c/sles-for-sap-hana-maintenance-procedures-part-1-pre-maintenance-checks/
[23:06]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/sles-for-sap-hana-maintenance-procedures-part-1-pre-maintenance-checks/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/sles-for-sap-hana-maintenance-procedures-part-1-pre-maintenance-checks/
[23:06]	TR Bot	for SAP HANA Maintenance Procedures Part -1 (Pre Maintenance Checks) | SUSE Communities
[23:06]	TR News	Half of the official SUSE blog is just shilling SAP. Another one: https://www.suse.com/c/safeguard-your-sap-operations-with-trento-1-0-ga/
[23:06]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/safeguard-your-sap-operations-with-trento-1-0-ga/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/safeguard-your-sap-operations-with-trento-1-0-ga/
[23:06]	TR Bot	Your SAP Operations with Trento 1.0 GA | SUSE Communities
[23:07]	TR News	Proprietary Software: Vista 11 Failing Miserably and Qt Helps Push Ads Inside Native Programs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164263
[23:07]	TR Bot	 Proprietary Software: Vista 11 Failing Miserably and Qt Helps Push Ads Inside Native Programs | Tux Machines
[23:08]	TR News	GAFAM outsourcing the recording of people to Mozilla CORPORATIONS and people participate for free https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/common-voice-dataset-tops-20000-hours/
[23:08]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/common-voice-dataset-tops-20000-hours/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/common-voice-dataset-tops-20000-hours/
[23:08]	TR Bot	 Common Voice dataset tops 20,000 hours - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog
[23:09]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22041918
[23:09]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/zcleuf8buau81.jpg created on 2022-04-19 06:06:19.717638
[23:10]	TR News	Mozilla does paywalls now https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/mdn-plus-now-available-in-more-markets/
[23:10]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/mdn-plus-now-available-in-more-markets/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/mdn-plus-now-available-in-more-markets/
[23:10]	TR Bot	 MDN Plus now available in more countries - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog
[23:10]	TR News	Linux inside https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-persee-3d-camera-integrates-neural-processing-unit-for-ai-ml-applications/
[23:10]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-persee-3d-camera-integrates-neural-processing-unit-for-ai-ml-applications/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-persee-3d-camera-integrates-neural-processing-unit-for-ai-ml-applications/
[23:10]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-persee-3d-camera-integrates-neural-processing-unit-for-ai-ml-applications/ )
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[23:13]	TR News	"The 2022 edition of the Latin-American LibreOffice Conference will take place in Brasilia, Brazil between August 25 and 26. The event will be held at the Catholic University of Braslia, in the Taquaritinga DF." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/04/28/latin-american-libreoffice-conference-2022-will-take-place-in-brasilia/
[23:13]	TR Bot	 Latin-American LibreOffice Conference 2022 will take place in Braslia - The Document Foundation Blog
[23:14]	TR News	Mozilla: Paywalls, Speech Recognition (Voice Collection), and Rust Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164264
[23:14]	TR Bot	 Mozilla: Paywalls, Speech Recognition (Voice Collection), and Rust | Tux Machines
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[23:18]	TR News	Events: LibreOffice, Bootlin, and DebConf22 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164265
[23:18]	TR Bot	 Events: LibreOffice, Bootlin, and DebConf22 | Tux Machines
[23:18]	TR News	mesa 22.1.0-rc3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164266
[23:18]	TR Bot	 mesa 22.1.0-rc3 | Tux Machines
[23:22]	TR News	Links 28/04/2022: Godot 4.0 Alpha 7 and Mesa 22.1.0 RC3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/mesa-22-1-0-rc3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/28/mesa-22-1-0-rc3/
[23:22]	TR Bot	 Links 28/04/2022: Godot 4.0 Alpha 7 and Mesa 22.1.0 RC3 | Techrights
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[23:32]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[23:32]	matey	hi
[23:32]	schestowitz	0/
[23:32]	matey	O<
[23:33]	matey	~~~~~~~~  ^( )O<
[23:33]	MinceR	\_o< QUACK!
[23:34]	matey	.bef
[23:34]	MinceR	:)
[23:34]	matey	/me doesnt like the taste of duck anyway
[23:35]	matey	im sure someone could do a better job than ive tasted but
[23:35]	matey	to me it justs tastes fowl
[23:35]	MinceR	i see what you did there
[23:35]	matey	puns aside its true
[23:36]	matey	poultry yes, ducks no, beef is just ridiculously (dangerously) inefficient
[23:36]	matey	im not saying it should be illegal, just... avoided voluntarily
[23:36]	matey	the more people who dont eat beef the better
[23:36]	MinceR	beef is too tasty for me to avoid
[23:36]	matey	as for telling ancient scandinavian tribes not to fish... thats just reeks of colonists "humanising" "savages"
[23:37]	matey	which peta is not above doing at all
[23:37]	matey	i used to live near one of their headquarters
[23:37]	matey	they hung a sign comparing eating meat to eating pets...
[23:37]	matey	outside an asian food store.
[23:37]	MinceR	delicious pets
[23:37]	matey	i went to their headquarters and i said...
[23:38]	matey	"listen, dont you think maybe this is a BIT racially insensitive, or might look a LITTLE bit awful to people, and be taken the wrong way?"
[23:38]	matey	they looked at me deadpan and said "no, because thats a korean store and the stereotype is about the chinese"
[23:38]	matey	okay, i guess they know best!
[23:38]	matey	/me prefers aspca anyway
[23:39]	matey	/me is sure people are are going to go with that level of nuance too
[23:39]	bnchs	the world's most dangerous malware is back
[23:39]	matey	windows 12 is out?
[23:39]	matey	we havent even seen 11 yet
[23:39]	MinceR	lol
[23:39]	bnchs	windows 11.2
[23:39]	matey	omg
[23:39]	matey	is it twice as bad as 11? i forget if its like decibels or not
[23:40]	matey	"its over 9000!!!!!"
[23:42]	bnchs	https://www.zdnet.com/article/emotet-once-the-worlds-most-dangerous-malware-is-back/
[23:43]	TR Bot	once the world's most dangerous malware, is back | ZDNet
[23:43]	bnchs	the world's SECOND most dangerous malware
[23:43]	matey	oh, zdnet
[23:43]	bnchs	that first place is reserved for windows
[23:43]	matey	s/emotet/linux/
[23:43]	matey	ive never heard of emotet, it sounds like ancient egyptian malware
[23:44]	matey	it infected a bunch of smartphones when they opened up some old tomb 
[23:44]	bnchs	it's a malware that uses document macros
[23:44]	matey	it puts a scarab as your boot screen
[23:44]	bnchs	as if you haven't had enough of that bullshit
[23:44]	matey	it's a malware that uses document macros <- oh yes, i remember document macros
[23:45]	matey	theyre never designed well
[23:45]	matey	i recommend never using them
[23:45]	matey	or having them enabled
[23:45]	bnchs	lol
[23:45]	matey	sadly this applies to ooo and "libre"collaborgnomea too
[23:45]	matey	libregnomeoffice
[23:45]	bnchs	C preprocessors work better than word document macros
[23:45]	bnchs	fuck that shit
[23:45]	bnchs	we should use C preprocessor
[23:46]	matey	well, c has never deserved to be tarred with the same brush as office applications
[23:46]	matey	usually when c fucks you over, its because SOMEONE coding something wrong
[23:46]	matey	coded
[23:46]	matey	and honestly there are so many cool things you can do about tht
[23:47]	matey	to the point where HOPEFULLY those overflows are passe/obsolete, but i wouldnt assume they are
[23:47]	matey	i mean im not silly enough to think openbsd is impenetrable. i know it isnt true
[23:47]	matey	if it was, more people would use it
[23:47]	matey	theyd be like yeah, openbsd bitch! just try it!
[23:48]	matey	nope, you still need security, just like any other stupid machine
[23:48]	matey	but PROBABLY less than windows does.
[23:48]	TR News	Screens too small, no keyboard... this is progress???? https://linuxstoney.com/android-13-will-allow-running-linux-and-even-windows-through-virtualization/
[23:48]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/android-13-will-allow-running-linux-and-even-windows-through-virtualization/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/android-13-will-allow-running-linux-and-even-windows-through-virtualization/
[23:48]	TR Bot	13 will allow running Linux and even Windows through virtualization - LinuxStoney
[23:48]	matey	/me holds up a thumb and finger close together
[23:48]	bnchs	"android 13 will allow running windows"
[23:48]	bnchs	uhh is it the opposite
[23:48]	matey	lol
[23:49]	matey	that would be hilarious though
[23:49]	matey	i was like damn, those qualcomm chips are getting heavy
[23:49]	matey	i dont even own anything up to running windows 11
[23:50]	TR News	Beelink SER 4 4800U X, new mini-PC with Manjaro Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164229#comment-33485
[23:50]	TR Bot	 Beelink SER 4 4800U X pairs a Ryzen 7 CPU with Manjaro Linux | Tux Machines
[23:50]	matey	/me loves that his mouse and keyboard like to braid each other when hes not looking
[23:50]	matey	sometimes my headphones get in on it
[23:50]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/my-buicks-computer-does-not-like-gates/
[23:50]	TR Bot	 My Buicks computer does not like Gates. BaronHK's Rants
[23:51]	matey	i guess you shouldnt drive it in redmond, it might try something funny :)
[23:51]	TR News	Cider: the Apple Music app also for Linux - LinuxStoney https://linuxstoney.com/cider-the-apple-music-app-also-for-linux/ Source: linuxstoney
[23:51]		-AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/cider-the-apple-music-app-also-for-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/cider-the-apple-music-app-also-for-linux/
[23:51]	TR Bot	the Apple Music app also for Linux - LinuxStoney
[23:51]	matey	/me has no idea where bill gates hangs out these days
[23:51]	matey	now that jeff is gone
[23:52]	TR News	Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 211 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-211-released/
[23:52]	TR Bot	 diffoscope 211 released
[23:53]	TR News	The new Linux NTFS driver is in danger http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164224#comment-33486
[23:53]	TR Bot	 The Future of the NTFS Linux Driver as Part of the Kernel Is in Question | Tux Machines
[23:54]	psydruid	> lol
[23:54]	psydruid	> that would be hilarious though
[23:54]	psydruid	> i was like damn, those qualcomm chips are getting heavy
[23:54]	psydruid	> i dont even own anything up to running windows 11
[23:54]	psydruid	They are getting heavy. The latest phone chips are as fast as laptop/desktop processors from a few years ago.
[23:54]	TR News	Jerry App for car insurance does it again. Fake prices. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/jerry-app-for-car-insurance-does-it-again-fake-prices/ Source: baronhk
[23:54]	TR Bot	 Jerry App for car insurance does it again. Fake prices. BaronHK's Rants
[23:54]	matey	i know that on an intellectual level
[23:54]	bnchs	<psydruid> They are getting heavy.
[23:54]	matey	but until i see it for myself its hard to believe
[23:54]	bnchs	that's what i said about yo momma
[23:54]	TR News	How Often Should You Update Arch Linux? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=is_ikJkvwxk Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[23:54]	TR Bot	 How Often Should You Update Arch Linux? - Invidious
[23:55]	matey	/me plays some disco to go with that joke, but laughs anyway
[23:55]	MinceR	finally MICROS~1 figured out a way to keep Backdoors around
[23:55]	psydruid	Similar chips from Mediatek and Qualcomm are in Chromebooks
[23:55]	MinceR	they'll just use patents to blackmail android device vendors to preinstall Backdoors as a VM
[23:55]	matey	i like mediatek for some reason. thats stupid, right?
[23:55]	MinceR	brace for the market penetration claims.
[23:55]	TR News	FreeBSD 13.1-RC5 Available https://www.freebsd.org/ site not updated yet...
[23:55]	TR Bot	 The FreeBSD Project
[23:56]		*goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights
[23:56]	psydruid	Maybe, but I have more devices with Mediatek chips than with Qualcomm chips
[23:57]	DaemonFC	https://politicalwire.com/2022/04/28/drop-in-gdp-challenges-bidens-pitch-to-voters/
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[23:57]	TR Bot	 Drop In GDP Challenges Bidens Pitch to Voters
[23:57]	DaemonFC	President Joe Bidens upbeat message that the economy is cruising along hit a troublesome speed bump on Thursday when the federal government reported that U.S. gross domestic product shrank during the first three months of 2022, the AP reports.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	Economic activity declined at annual rate of 1.4%, a sharp reversal from last year when growth was the strongest since 1984. There were technical reasons for the decline that likely obscured the actual health of the economy, yet the drop clearly put the president on the defensive after he has said repeatedly that the booming job market means the U.S. can withstand inflation at a 40-year high.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	1.4% GDP drop with 8.5% inflation.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	Build Back Better-er
[23:58]	TR News	Chrome is proprietary and acts like it https://blog.chromium.org/2022/04/chrome-102-window-controls-overlay-host.html
[23:58]	TR Bot	 Chromium Blog: Chrome 102: Window Controls Overlay, a Host of Finished Origin Trials, PWAs as File Handlers and More
[23:58]	DaemonFC	"Technical Reasons!"
[23:58]	matey	market penetration sounds like something steve ballmer would do
[23:59]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[23:59]	matey	maybe after a market thigh rub
[23:59]	MinceR	:>
[23:59]	matey	at least he didnt throw a chair at the other team