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schestowitzone large text file per day might doOct 28 00:00
schestowitzlike a daily text-only digestOct 28 00:00
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schestowitzAriadne: ping..Oct 28 00:07
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schestowitzif it works ok, techrights.org/txt will fetch a daily bulletinOct 28 00:17
schestowitzand there will be an archive as wellOct 28 00:17
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schestowitzok, this is a testOct 28 00:34
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/txtOct 28 00:34
schestowitzgenerated from scriptOct 28 00:35
schestowitzalso uploaded by it, past midnightOct 28 00:35
schestowitzit will rotate each dayOct 28 00:35
schestowitzand just needs curl/wget to put in one's text editorOct 28 00:35
schestowitzno need for browserOct 28 00:35
schestowitznow... to get a list of all the daily articles automatically, maybe I can extract these from rssOct 28 00:36
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schestowitzok, doneOct 28 01:10
schestowitznow putting it all togetherOct 28 01:10
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MinceR(no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/772e6c808921a68e.mp4Oct 28 01:15
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/txt-archives/Oct 28 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /txt-archivesOct 28 01:38
schestowitzthis is auto-generatedOct 28 01:38
schestowitzOct 28 01:40
schestowitz#Android Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143734Oct 28 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 28 01:40
schestowitzOct 28 01:40
schestowitz[Meme] Torvalds Assimilated ⢠ðð´ð²ð·ðð¸ð¶ð·ðð â http://techrights.org/2020/10/27/torvalds-assimilated/Oct 28 01:40
schestowitzOct 28 01:40
schestowitzPrivacy-focused smartphone runs LineageOS or Ubuntu TouchOct 28 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Torvalds Assimilated | TechrightsOct 28 01:40
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143705#comment-26896Oct 28 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pro1 X Smartphone to Ship with Android, Lineage OS, or Ubuntu Touch | Tux MachinesOct 28 01:40
schestowitzOct 28 01:40
schestowitzUbuntu 20.10 Delivers Linux Desktop on Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143510#comment-26895Oct 28 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 20.10 Arrives Today! Here are 11 New Features in Ubuntu 20.10 Groovy Gorilla | Tux MachinesOct 28 01:40
schestowitzOct 28 01:40
schestowitz3.1 pound System76 Galago Pro Linux laptop with Intel Tiger Lake coming soon ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143733Oct 28 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 3.1 pound System76 Galago Pro Linux laptop with Intel Tiger Lake coming soon | Tux MachinesOct 28 01:40
schestowitzOct 28 01:40
schestowitzNASA ROSES-20 Amendment 64: Release of Final text of E.8 Supplemental Open Source Software Awards ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143732Oct 28 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NASA ROSES-20 Amendment 64: Release of Final text of E.8 Supplemental Open Source Software Awards | Tux MachinesOct 28 01:40
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schestowitzmaybe the next stage would be to serve over Gopher or BBSOct 28 01:54
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schestowitzOct 28 03:50
schestowitzLinks 28/10/2020: FreeBSD 12.2, NixOS 20.09 and WordPress 5.6 Beta 2 http://techrights.org/2020/10/27/nixos-20-09/Oct 28 03:50
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schestowitzToday in #Techrights ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143740Oct 28 03:50
schestowitzOct 28 03:50
schestowitzBcachefs Linux File-System Sent Out For Review With Exciting Feature Progress ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143739Oct 28 03:50
schestowitzOct 28 03:50
schestowitzTodayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143738Oct 28 03:50
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schestowitzWordPress 5.6 Second Beta and WordPress Survey ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143737Oct 28 03:50
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schestowitzFreeBSD 12.2 ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143736Oct 28 03:50
schestowitzOct 28 03:50
schestowitzGames: Stadia, Graveyard Keeper and Wildermyth ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143735Oct 28 03:50
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schestowitzLinks 28/10/2020: FreeBSD 12.2, NixOS 20.09 and WordPress 5.6 Beta 2 http://techrights.org/2020/10/27/nixos-20-09/Oct 28 03:50
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schestowitzToday in #Techrights ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143740Oct 28 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/10/2020: FreeBSD 12.2, NixOS 20.09 and WordPress 5.6 Beta 2 | TechrightsOct 28 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesOct 28 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bcachefs Linux File-System Sent Out For Review With Exciting Feature Progress | Tux MachinesOct 28 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 28 03:50
schestowitzOct 28 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 5.6 Second Beta and WordPress Survey | Tux MachinesOct 28 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 12.2 | Tux MachinesOct 28 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stadia, Graveyard Keeper and Wildermyth | Tux MachinesOct 28 03:50
schestowitzBcachefs Linux File-System Sent Out For Review With Exciting Feature Progress ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143739Oct 28 03:50
schestowitzOct 28 03:50
schestowitzTodayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143738Oct 28 03:50
schestowitzOct 28 03:50
schestowitzWordPress 5.6 Second Beta and WordPress Survey ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143737Oct 28 03:50
schestowitzOct 28 03:51
schestowitzFreeBSD 12.2 ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143736Oct 28 03:51
schestowitzOct 28 03:51
schestowitzGames: Stadia, Graveyard Keeper and Wildermyth ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143735Oct 28 03:51
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_I3^RELATIVISMslow down on the spam schestowitz Oct 28 03:51
_I3^RELATIVISMthat isinsanityOct 28 03:51
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MinceRblasphemy?Oct 28 03:55
MinceRmadness?Oct 28 03:55
MinceRno... this is SPARTA!Oct 28 03:55
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schestowitz[03:51] <_I3^RELATIVISM> that isinsanityOct 28 08:01
schestowitzThat's what I did while viera was down until Ariadne can restore itOct 28 08:01
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schestowitz#PopOS 20.10 ( #Ubuntu Based) Released and Available for download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143574#comment-26900 #gnu #linuxOct 28 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s New in Pop!_OS 20.10 | Tux MachinesOct 28 08:38
schestowitzOct 28 08:38
schestowitzTorvalds says no need to name successor as that will take care of itself ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143741Oct 28 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Torvalds says no need to name successor as that will take care of itself | Tux MachinesOct 28 08:39
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schestowitzAriadne: the bot never recovered from the netsplit. Sorry to be a bother...Oct 28 10:12
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schestowitzMaking Linux More Like Windows ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143746Oct 28 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Making Linux More Like Windows | Tux MachinesOct 28 11:10
schestowitzOct 28 11:10
schestowitzTodayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143745Oct 28 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 28 11:10
schestowitzOct 28 11:10
schestowitzOpen Hardware/Modding Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143744Oct 28 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 28 11:10
schestowitzOct 28 11:10
schestowitz#Android Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143743Oct 28 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 28 11:10
schestowitzOct 28 11:10
schestowitzNow and Then: What happened to 5 promising file managers? ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143742Oct 28 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now and Then: What happened to 5 promising file managers? | Tux MachinesOct 28 11:10
schestowitzOct 28 11:10
schestowitzThis keyboard phone runs three operating systems, including AndroidOct 28 11:10
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143705#comment-26908Oct 28 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pro1 X Smartphone to Ship with Android, Lineage OS, or Ubuntu Touch | Tux MachinesOct 28 11:10
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MinceR(cat) (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/10/27/b54adeada8d0aa09.mp4   https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/10/27/ddaf11fc5fc18cb9.mp4Oct 28 13:47
XRevan86https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&u=https%3A%2F%2Fmeduza.io%2Fnews%2F2020%2F10%2F28%2Ffinancial-times-apple-zanimaetsya-razrabotkoy-sobstvennogo-poiskovikaOct 28 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google TranslateOct 28 13:52
XRevan86Google Translate, because the source is behind a paywall.Oct 28 13:53
XRevan86https://forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2020/10/28/apple-is-reportedly-creating-its-own-search-engine-amid-googles-antitrust-woes/Oct 28 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Apple Is Reportedly Creating Its Own Search Engine Amid Google’s Antitrust WoesOct 28 13:55
XRevan86Maybe they'll call it ApbingleOct 28 13:56
MinceRlolOct 28 14:00
MinceRfinally people can enjoy the same sort of brokenness as crApple Maps, but now in the form of a search engineOct 28 14:00
Ariadneapple maps seems pretty ok to meOct 28 14:02
MinceRit certainly innovated the topography a great dealOct 28 14:02
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MinceRbut i suspect most people would prefer to see the actual topographyOct 28 14:03
MinceRalso, to not be guided onto an airport runway, or into the waterOct 28 14:04
MinceRhttps://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/Oct 28 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com | The Amazing iOS 6 MapsOct 28 14:04
Ariadneit has improved since thenOct 28 14:06
MinceRgood, that means their search engine might actually be usable 8 years from its releaseOct 28 14:07
MinceRtoo bad only the most zealous apple fans will use it by thenOct 28 14:07
Ariadnei use apple maps because it doesn't ask me to clarify if i went to a sex shop or notOct 28 14:09
Ariadneunlike googleOct 28 14:09
Ariadnethat was the last straw for android with meOct 28 14:09
Ariadne"but android is open source"Oct 28 14:09
Ariadneyes, and practically useless without the proprietary bitsOct 28 14:10
MinceRlolOct 28 14:10
MinceRat least android is an open platformOct 28 14:11
Ariadneopen in what wayOct 28 14:12
MinceRin the way that you don't need anyone's permission to deploy your code on itOct 28 14:12
Ariadneyou don't need anyone's permission to sideload IPKs eitherOct 28 14:12
Ariadnethat is a common misconceptionOct 28 14:12
Ariadneif you connect the iphone to your computer, you can self-sign an IPK and sideload itOct 28 14:12
MinceRyeah, on your own device, if you pay the cupertino mafia some outrageous fee every yearOct 28 14:13
Ariadneno feeOct 28 14:13
MinceRgood luck starting your own application repositoryOct 28 14:13
Ariadnethere's alternative app stores that you can install actuallyOct 28 14:13
MinceRafter jailbreaking, yeahOct 28 14:13
Ariadneno jailbreak neededOct 28 14:13
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twitter_says_hihi, folksOct 28 14:15
MinceRhiOct 28 14:15
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twitter_says_hinotices an interesting connection you have probably already seen ...Oct 28 14:16
twitter_says_hiHope Hicks, one of Trump's chief PR people, came from Edelman - Microsoft's super evil PR companyOct 28 14:17
twitter_says_hiThe similarity between Trump's flim flam and Microsoft's was stunning, and this is probably why.Oct 28 14:17
twitter_says_hiShe graduated in 2010 from the party school, Southern Methodist University with a BA in EnglishOct 28 14:18
twitter_says_hiThen went to work for The Zeno Group, the "conflict agency of Edelman"Oct 28 14:18
AriadneMinceR: the way the secondary app stores work is by self-signing the ipks and sideloading them.  its similar to how fdroid worksOct 28 14:18
twitter_says_hiBy 2012 she was with another firm and working with Ivanka TrumpOct 28 14:19
twitter_says_hiShe joined Trump's crime syndicate full time in 2014Oct 28 14:19
twitter_says_hihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_HicksOct 28 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Hope Hicks - WikipediaOct 28 14:20
AriadneokOct 28 14:20
Ariadnenobody caresOct 28 14:20
Ariadnego awayOct 28 14:20
twitter_says_hihttps://everything-pr.com/the-zeno-group/Oct 28 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-everything-pr.com | Public Relations Blog - Everything PR NewsOct 28 14:20
MinceRwell, it doesn't surprise me that there's a connection between Agent Orange and microshitOct 28 14:21
twitter_says_hiSo there you have it.  There's probably more Microsoft influence over TrumpOct 28 14:21
MinceRAriadne: f-droid doesn't need me to connect the phone to another computer, or to sign anythingOct 28 14:21
Ariadnetrue, but it is possible to enroll new codesigning certificates without apple's blessingOct 28 14:22
Ariadneyou only pay the fee if you want to buy a cert from themOct 28 14:22
twitter_says_hiTrump obviously favored Gates and Microsoft early in his administration -meeting privately with Gates while setting up that insulting "meeting" with CEO's of other tech firms which he had his daughter run.Oct 28 14:22
Ariadneotherwise you enroll a codesigning cert the way you enroll any other certOct 28 14:23
twitter_says_hiand now the Trump administration has sued Microsoft's chief remaining corporate competitorOct 28 14:23
AriadneanywayOct 28 14:23
Ariadnetwitter_says_hi: fascinating theory, but there are simpler explanationsOct 28 14:23
Ariadnegoogle denied trump campaign adsOct 28 14:24
twitter_says_hiThat is all I have today, have to go to work.  Keep up the good reporting here, Roy.Oct 28 14:24
Ariadnetherefore der furher trump decided to smackdown googleOct 28 14:24
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kingoffrancei think the fallacy is a) pr people have loyalties/morals b) their flimflam greatly differs for different clientsOct 28 14:29
XRevan86Ariadne: F-Droid no longer uses its own certificate. And it was only needed to rebuild the application as an ensurance.Oct 28 14:39
XRevan86Ariadne: How viable is the use of an iPhone without registering on apple.com?Oct 28 14:44
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/0f419091dd1cc97f.jpgOct 28 14:52
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/6a3defc000eaf8fb.jpgOct 28 15:05
AriadneXRevan86: not viable, but don't careOct 28 15:18
Ariadnei'm a practical person.  pmOS just isn't there yet.Oct 28 15:18
Ariadneand i don't want a phone asking me about whether or not i went to a sex shopOct 28 15:18
Ariadnelike google's phones do (:Oct 28 15:18
ChaekyungI've never had a phone ask me thatOct 28 15:21
Ariadneyou're clearly not living life to the fullest thenOct 28 15:22
*XRevan86 doesn't have Google Maps.Oct 28 15:25
XRevan86Ariadne: I'm a practical person, I use Android, but I just don't register it on Google.Oct 28 15:25
XRevan86After 2GIS got bought out by Sber I'm in a bit of a search, but OsmAnd works surprisingly well so far.Oct 28 15:26
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XRevan86It has come a long way since the last time I checked it out (2014).Oct 28 15:34
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schestowitzLinks 28/10/2020: Torvalds on Succession, PyTorch 1.7.0 ⢠ðð´ð²ð·ðð¸ð¶ð·ðð â http://techrights.org/2020/10/28/pytorch-1-7-0/Oct 28 15:53
schestowitzOct 28 15:53
schestowitzTodayâs ð£ð¾ð ððªð¬ð±ð²ð·ð®ð¼ Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143749Oct 28 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/10/2020: Torvalds on Succession, PyTorch 1.7.0 | TechrightsOct 28 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 28 15:53
schestowitzOct 28 15:53
schestowitzIBM/Red Hat Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143748Oct 28 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 28 15:53
schestowitzOct 28 15:53
schestowitz#Programming Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143747Oct 28 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 28 15:53
schestowitzOct 28 15:53
schestowitzAriadne: thank you :-) :-)Oct 28 15:55
MinceRAriadne: maybe you can just set up google maps to not ask you to review placesOct 28 15:59
MinceROsmAnd is great for hiking, not so great for in-car navigation :>Oct 28 15:59
schestowitz[13:55] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.forbes.com | Apple Is Reportedly Creating Its Own Search Engine Amid Google’s Antitrust WoesOct 28 16:00
schestowitzLike Apple isn't a target as well...Oct 28 16:00
MinceRmaybe they're appeasing twitler already :>Oct 28 16:01
XRevan86MinceR: Maybe, I use it for pedestrian and public transport navigation :)Oct 28 16:01
schestowitzMinceR: Microsoft didOct 28 16:05
schestowitzseems the Agent Orange would go out of his way to bailout MSFTOct 28 16:06
schestowitz"the genius from Microsoft" -TrumpOct 28 16:06
schestowitzhis wordsOct 28 16:06
schestowitzI suppose criminals tend to fancy other criminals who know how to get away with it allOct 28 16:06
schestowitz[14:17] <twitter_says_hi> Hope Hicks, one of Trump's chief PR people, came from Edelman - Microsoft's super evil PR companyOct 28 16:07
schestowitzEdelman is a LOT bigger than just MicrosoftOct 28 16:08
schestowitzBallmers wife Connie (spelling)?) comes from thereOct 28 16:08
schestowitz*Steve Ballmer'sOct 28 16:08
schestowitzI forgot her first nameOct 28 16:08
schestowitzI mentioned it in TechrightsOct 28 16:08
schestowitzseveral people from Edelman are in Linux FoundationOct 28 16:08
schestowitzone left, used to work for DNI (CLapper)Oct 28 16:08
schestowitzanother infiltrated OpenJS and then LF, works for Microsoft, used to work for EdelmanOct 28 16:09
schestowitzEdelman bribes "reviewers" for MicrosoftOct 28 16:09
schestowitzbut I would not say the companies are intimately connectedOct 28 16:09
schestowitzOh, wait.Oct 28 16:09
schestowitzBallmer's wife isn't from there eitherOct 28 16:09
schestowitzShe's from Waggener-Edstrom, Pam's firmOct 28 16:10
schestowitzbut it doesn't matterOct 28 16:10
schestowitzthe connection noted above is little but a "smell test"Oct 28 16:10
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 33 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143750 [https://pleroma.site/objects/04fa13f2-5d0d-49dc-9cc5-80b641109de1]Oct 28 16:13
schestowitz[14:20] <Ariadne> go awayOct 28 16:14
schestowitzTwitter the person has contributed a lot to our site, his nickname predates the web site TwitterOct 28 16:14
schestowitzMaybe you misidentified him as a troll, he's a very good personOct 28 16:15
schestowitz"on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" (until you bark)Oct 28 16:16
schestowitz[14:04] <MinceR> https://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/Oct 28 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com | The Amazing iOS 6 MapsOct 28 16:20
schestowitzLOLOct 28 16:20
schestowitzit's always still funnyOct 28 16:20
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MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/698728.jpgOct 28 17:08
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txSaw the news about the site overhaul on my RSS feedOct 28 17:53
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txGood luck with itOct 28 17:53
schestowitzvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: thanksOct 28 18:05
schestowitzpeople can help..Oct 28 18:05
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI don't want to make promises I can't keep. '=D Oct 28 18:07
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI didn't really see any mention of RSS in the recent posts about the overhaul, though. Is anything changing on that front?Oct 28 18:07
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/txtOct 28 18:11
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI did read about thatOct 28 18:11
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThe text versionOct 28 18:11
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThat's neatOct 28 18:11
schestowitzThere's more comingOct 28 18:11
schestowitzbut...Oct 28 18:12
XRevan86Ariadne: The freaky thing is that I don't actually need Google's permission to use my phone.Oct 28 18:12
schestowitzI think it's a stepping stoneOct 28 18:12
schestowitzI'll code some more tonight, maybe we can run the site not only over http/sOct 28 18:12
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txYou may want to go down the route of turning the site into an onion service at some point in the future.Oct 28 18:12
schestowitzXRevan86: you are used by the phone more than you use itOct 28 18:12
schestowitzit extracts your location 1000 times more often than you even stare at itOct 28 18:12
schestowitzvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: that toOct 28 18:13
schestowitz*tooOct 28 18:13
XRevan86schestowitz: Opsos is a whole different storyOct 28 18:13
schestowitzmain deficiency is hyperlinkingOct 28 18:13
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txIf you give it a few months, I should have time in my schedule to help with thatOct 28 18:13
schestowitzbut with some coding you can extract summary for each link, then add it as footnote to make it more self-containedOct 28 18:13
XRevan86mobile network carrier that isOct 28 18:14
schestowitzvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: excellent, thank youOct 28 18:14
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txschestowitz (y) Oct 28 18:15
XRevan86schestowitz: But at least it's not worse than a feature phone.Oct 28 18:17
schestowitzwhat's a "feeecher" phone?Oct 28 18:18
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schestowitzI could never tell for sure what that classification meanOct 28 18:18
schestowitzdoes it mean the ones that started coming with cameras, but not yet "apps"?Oct 28 18:19
XRevan86> A feature phone is a mobile phone that retains the form factor of earlier-generation phones, with button-based input and a small display. Feature phones are sometimes called dumbphones in contrast with touch-input smartphones.Oct 28 18:19
XRevan86I didn't want to use "dumbphone".Oct 28 18:19
schestowitzwhat's the motorola one I had in 2002 called?Oct 28 18:19
DaemonFC[m]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/27/hurriane-zeta-florida-early-voting-432984Oct 28 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zeta cuts short early voting in Florida Republican strongholds - POLITICOOct 28 18:20
DaemonFC[m]LOLOct 28 18:20
schestowitzit was the last I had of them, as my dad wanted to stay in touchOct 28 18:20
XRevan86> Prior to the popularity of smartphones, the term 'feature phone' was often used on high-end phones with assorted functions for retail customers, developed at the advent of 3G networks, which allowed sufficient bandwidth for these capabilities.Oct 28 18:20
XRevan86schestowitz: Apparently so, yes.Oct 28 18:20
XRevan86Anyway, my point is that a carrier is a giant location-snooping hole, but that's something that any phone has by design.Oct 28 18:21
XRevan86And the only differences that do exist revolve around 2G, 3G and LTE having different precision capabilities.Oct 28 18:22
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThe only way to really protect yourself from that is to use end-to-end encryption for absolutely everything that's going on with your device. Not something you'll see in consumer items. You give away your location but that's all the carrier getsOct 28 18:23
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txBtw, bit of a PSA for you lotOct 28 18:36
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThere are a lot of shady scams going around this yearOct 28 18:36
MinceRour entire society is a shady scamOct 28 18:37
MinceRwe should be used to itOct 28 18:37
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txInstall a call recorder software on the phones of your friends and family, to help protect them against fraudOct 28 18:37
schestowitzour Home Office does thatOct 28 18:37
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txF-droid has an app called "Call Recorder"Oct 28 18:37
schestowitz"install app"Oct 28 18:37
schestowitzcorona, EU post-brexitOct 28 18:38
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThat's pretty decentOct 28 18:38
schestowitzapps that send them photos of youOct 28 18:38
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txIf someone has a passport, I think that kind of defeats the purpose lolOct 28 18:39
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThey already have pictures of youOct 28 18:39
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThe elderly are particularly vulnerable. Having records makes a difference.Oct 28 18:40
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txGet it off F-droid. It's a lot more trustworthy than Google PlayOct 28 18:41
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThe scams are going to ramp up near Christmas time.Oct 28 18:42
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txEarly action is good thing. (y) Oct 28 18:42
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txis a*Oct 28 18:42
schestowitz[18:39] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> If someone has a passport, I think that kind of defeats the purpose lolOct 28 18:48
schestowitzyes, but waitOct 28 18:48
schestowitztomorrow I need to apply for somethingOct 28 18:48
schestowitzand it seems like if you don't have "phone" they exclude youOct 28 18:48
schestowitzbut... I am NOT sure yetOct 28 18:49
schestowitzemail and in-person seem like fallback optionsOct 28 18:49
schestowitzfor older people I supposeOct 28 18:49
schestowitzif no phone means lots of trouble, I will write about it, but tbh there usually happen to be fallbackOct 28 18:49
schestowitzlike cashless society when you're disablesOct 28 18:49
schestowitz*disabledOct 28 18:49
schestowitzor "self-service" checkoutOct 28 18:49
schestowitzthey make exceptionOct 28 18:50
schestowitzof when you need to dine somewhere they wants you to use a phone (that exists now)Oct 28 18:50
schestowitzthey can do it on the restaurants' phones, just ask for some details like first nameOct 28 18:50
schestowitzand phone # (landline)Oct 28 18:50
schestowitzif the fallback are cut, then shtfOct 28 18:51
schestowitzbbl, napOct 28 18:52
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txHave a good oneOct 28 18:52
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tessierSomeone mentioned my name causing this tab to hilight but then it scrolled off.Oct 28 22:05
tessierI need to figure out how to make irsii increase buffer length.Oct 28 22:05
schestowitzah, it was meOct 28 22:06
schestowitzthat was something about varnishOct 28 22:06
schestowitzI said that having a reverse proxy for HTTPS might be worthwhile, as it can be done at a level other than the 'proper' back end with DB and allOct 28 22:06
schestowitzAriadne once suggested she can add a layer for SSL/TSL or similarOct 28 22:07
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txWhat's the purpose of the proxy?Oct 28 22:09
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schestowitzwe have a long toothOct 28 22:22
schestowitzan old version of CentOSOct 28 22:22
schestowitzsupported until next year, sort ofOct 28 22:22
schestowitzas set up by tessier at one pointOct 28 22:22
schestowitzand many crypto libs have a dependency chain in themOct 28 22:23
schestowitzwhich makes deploying ssl stuff a bit of a downtime riskOct 28 22:23
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txIf you're setting up a reverse proxy just for newer openssl functionality, you're building up quite a bit of technical debtOct 28 22:24
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txDo you have enough juice on your server to run a mirror?Oct 28 22:27
XRevan86schestowitz: Why not update?Oct 28 22:28
XRevan86It is already technical debt.Oct 28 22:28
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txTrue datOct 28 22:29
schestowitzXRevan86: that's the plan actuallyOct 28 22:29
schestowitzright now we have broken sudoers file on hvOct 28 22:29
schestowitzneeds downtime to sort outOct 28 22:29
schestowitzthe plan is to use a new OS, new installOct 28 22:30
schestowitzmaybe one container for each CMSOct 28 22:30
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txIf you're messing with the configs now, I recommend using containersOct 28 22:30
schestowitzwe started with shared hosting in 2006Oct 28 22:30
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txBuild them containers while the config malarkey is fresh in your headsOct 28 22:30
schestowitzDDoS attacks finished usOct 28 22:30
schestowitzvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: the DB is already in a containerOct 28 22:31
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txSince you're messing about with CMS formats now, maybe you should consider distributing via a medium that's resistant to DDoSOct 28 22:34
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txSomething like torrentsOct 28 22:34
schestowitzwould you be interested?Oct 28 22:36
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI would.Oct 28 22:36
schestowitzfull archive?Oct 28 22:36
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txHow much space is that?Oct 28 22:37
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txGB*Oct 28 22:37
schestowitzthere's one person in boston who has a full static archive of the site as of last yearOct 28 22:37
schestowitzsans images, I thinkOct 28 22:37
schestowitzabout 40,000 pages, the text alone would be around 10gbOct 28 22:37
schestowitzcompressed maybe 1.5gbOct 28 22:37
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txShould be able to work with that Oct 28 22:38
XRevan86"maybe you should consider distributing via a medium that's resistant to DDoS" – or not using mpm_preforkOct 28 22:38
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txxz should give you pretty good ratiosOct 28 22:39
schestowitzthe issue is sanitising the dataOct 28 22:40
schestowitzpasswords and thingsOct 28 22:40
schestowitzand making cross referencing workOct 28 22:41
schestowitzeven on local copiesOct 28 22:41
schestowitzso local relative pathsOct 28 22:41
schestowitzwhen the site was young in 2007 we had a "download site" optionOct 28 22:41
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txIt would probably be better to let readers just download the parts they want.Oct 28 22:43
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txYou could generate a torrent for each new post and build an index of the magnet links.Oct 28 22:44
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI doubt most people would want to just download the entire site if they're interested in a few articlesOct 28 22:44
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txAnnounce new magnet links via RSSOct 28 22:45
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThere you go. New CMSOct 28 22:45
schestowitzany tools for that?Oct 28 22:45
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI'm building them in my free time lolOct 28 22:45
schestowitzlike seed/base URL, then traversal from that?Oct 28 22:45
schestowitzso maybe you can seed themOct 28 22:45
schestowitzI can add a machine of mine to the torrentOct 28 22:46
schestowitzit's not like we do ads or anything, so any dissemination would be a positive, no matter the formOct 28 22:46
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txYeah. Distribution here is all legal content anywayOct 28 22:46
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txYou can generate magnet links pretty fast because it's just based on SHA1Oct 28 22:48
schestowitzcoolOct 28 22:49
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txIt's just magnet:?xt=urn:btih:<SHA1SUM>&dn=<filename>Oct 28 22:51
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx`magnet:?xt=urn:btih:<SHA1SUM>&dn=<filename>`Oct 28 22:51
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_schemeOct 28 22:52
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme#Parameters" for the common parametersOct 28 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Magnet URI scheme - WikipediaOct 28 22:53
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txNo need for any fancy port forwarding or anything because it's DHT (distributed hash table)Oct 28 22:53
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txJust pass the magnet URI into a client and hey presto you find a seeder (eventually)Oct 28 22:54
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2txTransmission is pretty good. It's fast and pretty easy to operate from the CLIOct 28 22:54
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThere's plenty of GUI options as wellOct 28 22:55
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI tested it out a few days ago. Got some friends from different countries to try and download a small text file I was seeding. They found me in less than 30 seconds.Oct 28 22:56
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schestowitzvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: thanksOct 28 23:29
schestowitzI was busy posting daily links, sorry..Oct 28 23:29
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txNo worries. I'm going to be doing a lot of work with torrent-based CMS near Christmas time. I can give techrights early access to my research, if you are interested.Oct 28 23:29
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schestowitzvallor: cheers, appreciated!Oct 28 23:38
schestowitzI'll focus on just writing for nowOct 28 23:38
schestowitzin 20 mins from now it's midnight, so I'll be testing improvements to the Bulletin some moreOct 28 23:38
schestowitzlots of possible things to fix in itOct 28 23:38
oiaohmhttps://www.osr.com/blog/2020/10/15/microsoft-driver-updates-allowed-win7-win8/  Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8  << Let the end of life games begin.Oct 28 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8 – OSROct 28 23:40
schestowitzself nukeOct 28 23:40
schestowitzMicrosoft = Planned Obsolescence Oct 28 23:40
oiaohmTo be correct this is the biggest pool that Microsoft has ever attempted at once.Oct 28 23:42
oiaohmThis will effectively make it impossible to release new or updated drivers for Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 systems, including Server 2012 R2.  <<  Its a really wide orbit nuke strike.Oct 28 23:43
MinceRthey, too should get nuked from orbitOct 28 23:44
schestowitztoo much maintenance costOct 28 23:44
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txLittle voice inside my head says this is a way to herd people toward Azure fasterOct 28 23:44
schestowitzwe'll see what happens in years to come, s korea and china among others moving to gnu linuxOct 28 23:44
schestowitzit'll reduce the incentive for msft to keep maintaining windowsOct 28 23:44
schestowitzvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: they can go to google, aws etc.Oct 28 23:45
schestowitzazure is a failureOct 28 23:45
schestowitzlayoffs thereOct 28 23:45
schestowitzand losses too, I heardOct 28 23:45
schestowitzlots of hype, ads, and fake 'articles'Oct 28 23:45
schestowitzto maintain a perception of "momentum" and "Growth"Oct 28 23:45
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txGoogle was third, last time I checkedOct 28 23:45
schestowitzIBM got busted for faking "cloud"Oct 28 23:45
schestowitzMicrosoft will be busted nextOct 28 23:45
schestowitzcomplaint with the SEC alreadyOct 28 23:45
schestowitzvZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: distantOct 28 23:46
schestowitzand it doesn't count fiscalOct 28 23:46
schestowitzjust some superficial measuresOct 28 23:46
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txCould beOct 28 23:46
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI don't do these statsOct 28 23:46
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI work with private networks. My clients don't trust public cloudOct 28 23:47
schestowitzI never trust clownsOct 28 23:47
schestowitzjokesters CIOs/CTOs think outsourcing their work is "hip"Oct 28 23:47
schestowitztheir decisions are reduced to "logins" and "clown computing" for password management tooOct 28 23:48
schestowitzand training their staff for clown GUIsOct 28 23:48
schestowitznever mind how many times those GUIs will change, requiring a retraining process and lock-inOct 28 23:48
oiaohmReally after that list of OS drops are done that will leave sections of Windows 10 as the next place to cut.Oct 28 23:48
schestowitzVista10 is nothing if you don't count OEMsOct 28 23:49
schestowitznobody buys Vista10Oct 28 23:49
schestowitzand Microsoft gave it 'free' to 'seed' the marketOct 28 23:49
schestowitzotherwise it would be a dud and failure in the statistical senseOct 28 23:49
oiaohmEnterprise customers do Oct 28 23:49
schestowitzrequiring them to maintain many old versions of VistaXOct 28 23:49
oiaohmBut that is normally other  software lock inOct 28 23:49
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI do a lot of stuff around FIPS 140. People like that aren't allowed near these systems. :)Oct 28 23:50
oiaohmYou have to remember stuff like Adobe Oct 28 23:50
oiaohmBoy does some the Adobe software hate you if you try to use Windows 7Oct 28 23:50
schestowitzI use neitherOct 28 23:51
schestowitzso it doesn't matterOct 28 23:51
schestowitzLF uses AdobeOct 28 23:51
schestowitzon "Macs"Oct 28 23:51
schestowitzor outsource to PR firms that doOct 28 23:51
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txTbf to a lot of businesses. They've basically managed to get help desk take over sysadmin jobsOct 28 23:51
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI see the appealOct 28 23:51
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txI once suggested to an "expert" programmer that they just run Adobe in WINE, instead of going through the hassle of running WSL2 on Windows10 just to have access to Adobe.Oct 28 23:53
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThe amount of flak I got for that suggestion made the agenda quite evident.Oct 28 23:54
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txAnd heavens forbid you suggest someone to virtualise WindowsOct 28 23:56
XRevan86vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: Which Adobe software piece?Oct 28 23:56
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txPhotoshopOct 28 23:56
XRevan86https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=38516Oct 28 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appdb.winehq.org | WineHQ - Adobe Photoshop CC 2020 (21.0)Oct 28 23:57
XRevan86Not well-tested.Oct 28 23:57
oiaohmSilver is not a good result either.Oct 28 23:57
oiaohmGold and platinum for usage in wine appdb you are looking for. Oct 28 23:57
oiaohmSilver means stuff is known busted that you have to work around.Oct 28 23:58
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txPeople that do graphics work have desktops that are more than capable of running perfectly fine inside a virtual machineOct 28 23:58
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txThey don't even need the performance boost that WINE offersOct 28 23:58
XRevan86Apparently the installer doesn't work.Oct 28 23:58
schestowitz[23:53] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> I once suggested to an "expert" programmer that they just run Adobe in WINE, instead of going through the hassle of running WSL2 on Windows10 just to have access to Adobe.Oct 28 23:58
schestowitzMoving from GNU/Linux to Windows 10/Vista 10 to run Adobe crap?Oct 28 23:59
XRevan86vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: Indeed, but there could be a catch.Oct 28 23:59
schestowitzIs that what happened?Oct 28 23:59
schestowitzas if to say, "just use WSL instead of GNU/Linux?"Oct 28 23:59
vZS1aHdksSQKx2txschestowitz it's what this person was shilling to unwitting *nix users on a certain forumOct 28 23:59
oiaohmWSL2 really does end up costing a lot of time with hosting.Oct 28 23:59

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