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DaemonFC[m]TIL that lenders are so relentless that they'll even offer you loans while you have a bankruptcy open and actually move in aggressively to offer you a loan while you have a bankruptcy open.May 29 00:07
DaemonFC[m]This country really is more fucked up than I ever could have imagined.May 29 00:08
DaemonFC[m]I'm like "Who the hell watches bankruptcy filings to offer loans to people? This is absolutely ridiculous."May 29 00:09
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's pretty obvious with what's going on right now is that sending the people the checks was intended to fund a wave of bankruptcy filings so that the government didn't have to keep sending people money.May 29 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Some people bought yet another TV while they have every bill collector in the world after them and they aren't even paying their rent.May 29 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Having an open bankruptcy filing pauses evictions, so the best thing that people behind on their rent can do is delay filing until their governor's executive order that suspends evictions is almost up, then immediately file bankruptcy and throw everything including their landlord in. It takes about 6-8 months for a bankruptcy to discharge, and it will take out all of the rent that you owe to that landlord. Unless theMay 29 00:19
DaemonFC[m]have evidence that you're tearing the place up or using it as a crack den or something, they can't get relief from the automatic stay and they can't evict you. When the discharge goes through, you won't owe the landlord anything, but you should probably have a place to stay lined up.May 29 00:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ when microsoft is done with it, **git itself** will be so toxic that freedom-loving hackers will flee it like people once fled cvs for more convenient options. its not just github that suggests this. microsoft wants to co-opt git as much as it tried to co-opt html. the halloween documents werent just about co-opting applications and poaching developers, they were about co-opting standards. git is a ...May 29 08:14
schestowitz"May 29 08:14
schestowitzwhen microsoft is done with it, git itself will be so toxic that freedom-loving hackers will flee it like people once fled cvs for more convenient options.May 29 08:14
schestowitzits not just github that suggests this. microsoft wants to co-opt git as much as it tried to co-opt html.May 29 08:14
schestowitzthe halloween documents werent just about co-opting applications and poaching developers, they were about co-opting standards. git is a de facto standard-- developed by someone who is already compromised by microsoft. i hope people realise, theyre going to steal and fuck over git as a development tool. #deletegithubMay 29 08:14
schestowitz"May 29 08:14
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DaemonFC[m]Yeah, my bankruptcy filing hit my credit report.May 29 20:08
DaemonFC[m]My credit was so fucked up by the credit card people that the bankruptcy raised my credit score 50 points.May 29 20:09
DaemonFC[m]I think it's ridiculous that bankruptcy is practically fashionable and "strategic" when you're someone like Failed President Trump or some corporate bigwig like Mitt Romney who asset strips companies to pay themselves huge bonuses and them filed for Chapter 11.May 29 20:16
DaemonFC[m]When individuals do it, they were "irresponsible" for not "paying what they owed people".May 29 20:16
DaemonFC[m]When Trump and Romney do it, it's totally not irresponsible for screwing their employees and contractors out of their earnings. It's a good business strategy. See how that works?May 29 20:16
MinceRwhat you do doesn't matterMay 29 20:19
MinceRonly how rich you are mattersMay 29 20:19
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much. I mean, it's ridiculous that they don't hold the person who owned the business or the CEO responsible for the business's debt, especially if he recently took an obscene bonus with money that could have gone to the creditors.May 29 20:22
DaemonFC[m]JC Penney paid their CEO a $6 million bonus at the beginning of the month and then filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy and told the trustee that they needed out of 268 leases and to rip up employee pensions and stuff.May 29 20:23
DaemonFC[m]JC Penney has been around so long that they still are responsible for paying out pensions to employees who accrued them and then retired 20-30 years ago.May 29 20:23
DaemonFC[m]The US government has this thing called the Pension Guaranty Corporation, and it taxes businesses that offer pensions to go into an insurance plan for pensions that go bust, so that the government keeps paying people their pension checks.May 29 20:24
DaemonFC[m]Unfortunately, it only covers private pension plans, so states like Illinois who made bad investments and skipped entire years of the state making its share of public pension contributions have all of these plans that are like 15% funded and won't get taken over if they run out of money.May 29 20:25
DaemonFC[m]States have ran every kind of scam on their own pensioners that you can possibly imagine, including "investing" the pension money into bonds from the state government to get a certain interest rate from something the state controlled and forced to buy themMay 29 20:26
DaemonFC[m]So it funded a state budget in 1999 or something and now the pension fund is in trouble.May 29 20:27
DaemonFC[m]This raises an interesting problem, MinceR May 29 20:28
DaemonFC[m]The Illinois constitution says that the state can't pay for anything that there's no appropriation for, and it can't appropriate money that it can't raise, but the constitution also says that public pensions are guaranteed adn must be paid and may not be reduced or impaired in any way.May 29 20:29
DaemonFC[m]So this pensions thing is set to cause a constitutional crisis.May 29 20:29
DaemonFC[m]Theoretically, the only state obligations that must be paid out according to the constitution are transit projects and pensions.May 29 20:30
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Various laws have also created continuing appropriations, and court orders have created some that weren't continuing appropriations created by laws.May 29 20:31
DaemonFC[m]So the state is obligated to pay for things even if there's no money.May 29 20:31
DaemonFC[m]During the two year partial Illinois government shutdown, what ended up happening is that anything that wasn't guaranteed to be paid out gathered up in a "pile of unpaid bills", which ended up reaching $16 billion dollars.May 29 20:32
DaemonFC[m]Like, if a state police cruiser hit you and killed you, your spouse could file a lawsuit against the state for wrongful death and the cost of the vehicle and stuff, but you would go into the unpaid bill pile.May 29 20:33
DaemonFC[m]There was no law that required armored cars to pick up cash at the DMV offices, so they did it for a while going into the unpaid bill pile and then the companies wouldn't do business with the state anymore, so the state started using the state police to do it.May 29 20:34
kingoffrancelolMay 29 22:13
kingoffranceyes, theres people who claim the CAFRs have so much investments all over the place, the state gov. basically poor mouth on purposeMay 29 22:15
kingoffrancei.e. they might have stuff for pensions and etc.May 29 22:16
kingoffranceinvested in stocks or what have youMay 29 22:16
kingoffrancei guess, the way things areMay 29 22:16
kingoffranceyou have to invest any "cash" you haveMay 29 22:16
kingoffranceelse its gonna inflateMay 29 22:16
kingoffranceso this is not necessarily irresponsibleMay 29 22:16
kingoffranceit is what anyone has to do somewhatMay 29 22:16
kingoffrancebut that is not good of course if, e.g. due to covid, stock market takes a diveMay 29 22:17
kingoffrancethen even if they had investments for various obligationsMay 29 22:17
kingoffrancethey gotta wait for things to rebound anywaysMay 29 22:17
kingoffrancethey may have been "responsible" and the stocks dive and then.........May 29 22:18
kingoffrancehave to wait for a better time to "liquidate" :)May 29 22:18
kingoffrancei dont pretend to know this stuff, just that even if they were "responsible" that is a loose word :)May 29 22:20
MinceR 29 22:21
DaemonFC[m]State forces captive pension funds to "invest" in state bonds, which it pays out as pension money.May 29 22:22
DaemonFC[m]Somehow this is totally not a Ponzi.May 29 22:22
DaemonFC[m]MinceR?May 29 22:22
MinceRjust reddit being condé nastyMay 29 22:24
kingoffrancewell, thats the pyramid :0    except i think we are supposed to work our way up to enlightenment, so they will say we are really the eye, or are supposed to become it, hence they are "relinquishing" control :)May 29 22:25
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I'm seriously considering a run for the state asembly.May 29 22:26
kingoffrancei.e. they might claim it is a pyramid scheme but people are supposed to e the stopMay 29 22:26
kingoffrances/stop/top/May 29 22:26
DaemonFC[m]I believe I can get at least 500 signatures on a petition.May 29 22:26
MinceR"Are you gonna sign this or will it be your surviving family members?"May 29 22:27
XRevan86MinceR: Technically, in terms of Taiwan Taiwan is the China.May 29 22:27
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The truth is, I don't  think I could do much, even as a state assemblyman. May 29 22:27
XRevan86So that should've been something like "Taiwan (not part of PRC) airlines"May 29 22:28
MinceR"Sign this petition or I'll follow you home and kill your dog!"May 29 22:28
DaemonFC[m]The system is set up so that  it's impervious to change, even if a decent guy managed to become Governor for a while.May 29 22:28
MinceRXRevan86: indeedMay 29 22:28
DaemonFC[m]Look what happened up in Minnesota when Jesse Ventura became governor.May 29 22:28
MinceRbut it was enough to trigger reddit :>May 29 22:28
kingoffrance^^^ DaemonFC[m]     May 29 22:28
DaemonFC[m]They just waited him out and ganged up to destroy him.May 29 22:28
MinceR 29 22:36
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XRevan86 oy-veyMay 29 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Exim Mail Transfer Agent Actively Exploited by Russian GRU Cyber Actors > National Security Agency Central Security Service > Article ViewMay 29 22:38
XRevan86The good-old CVE-2019-10149May 29 22:38
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I loved that game.May 29 22:54
MinceRso did iMay 29 22:55
DaemonFC[m]Especially the part where the rednecks capture you and dress you up in a sex kink outfit and you have to shoot your way out.May 29 22:55
MinceR:>May 29 22:55
XRevan86I think that was Pulp FictionMay 29 22:55
MinceRi especially liked the Super-fun Pigeon Hunter MissionMay 29 22:56
MinceRthough that was in Apocalypse WeekendMay 29 22:56
XRevan86There's something adorable in that GRU was exposed by paying Hetzner from their own giro.May 29 23:02
XRevan86bank accountMay 29 23:03
kingoffranceyeah, gnome might no longer be guh-nome but i havent seen anyone dare rename the gimpMay 29 23:24
kingoffrance(please dont show me some distro did rename/rebrand it)May 29 23:24
MinceRthere was already some whining about itMay 29 23:26
XRevan86kingoffrance: There's GlimpseMay 29 23:26
XRevan86(limpse? %))May 29 23:26
MinceRmaybe some crybullies will get on it once microshit no longer has any jobs for themMay 29 23:26
kingoffrancei dont know if i like his grin, but to each their ownMay 29 23:29
kingoffrancei wouldnt mess with other peoples sw/brandingMay 29 23:30
kingoffrancethey were inconspicuous enough i suppose people have to go out of their way to be "offended"May 29 23:30
kingoffrancethey have a littel bit of plausible deniability :)May 29 23:30
MinceRthat's the crybullies' job descriptionMay 29 23:30

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