●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, May 29, 2022 ●● ● May 29 [00:11] *phebus has quit (Quit: POKE 1,0) [00:17] *forkbombe has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:20] *forkbombe (~forkbombe@u89vdyv4abg8n.irc) has joined #techrights [00:25] DaemonFC I mixed up that 8 ounce car wash concentrate with some dehumidifier water and went over the car again. It got pretty filthy while it was sitting there waiting for that guy to get around to it. [00:25] DaemonFC https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NWWElOfhMKQrqjzUCLPOotdJ [00:25] MinceR lol @ qubes [00:26] DaemonFC I like this Aero Cosmetics stuff. I'll buy it again. [00:26] MinceR because the only thing that makes your OS more secure than running systemd... is running more instances of systemd. [00:26] DaemonFC The dehumidifier water makes great stuff to reconstitute it with because it has no minerals in it. [00:26] DaemonFC So you get your car washed and waxed in one go and you don't leave any spots on it. [00:26] chicksahoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psiJuczEoSE [00:26] TR Bot https://y.com.sb/watch?v=psiJuczEoSE [00:26] TR Bot y.com.sb | Digital Anti Repression Workshop - Jacob Appelbaum Part 1/2 - April 26 2012 - Invidious [00:26] chicksahoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9fByRmAHgU [00:26] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=s9fByRmAHgU [00:26] DaemonFC I picked up some windshield washer fluid concentrate too. [00:27] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=s9fByRmAHgU ) [00:27] DaemonFC I can reconstitute that with dehumidifier water. [00:27] DaemonFC It makes 8 gallons and it won't freeze in the winter, and it cost me $6.95, so that's like the price of three gallons ready to use. [00:28] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, The flatkill troll (on github) recommends Qubes OS and says "It's not Linux." and that "Linux is dangerous. Use Windows 10.". [00:29] DaemonFC MinceR, Your car is dangerous. Buy a Pinto! Or a Kia. Kias are probably easier to find now. It's the same thing really. [00:31] MinceR lol [00:31] *matey (~matey@7hpuxwr5tewrw.irc) has joined #techrights [00:31] MinceR lol @ qubes being "not Linux" [00:31] matey you know geordi was too nice to say it [00:31] matey but picard would have never made it in engineering [00:31] MinceR :> [00:32] matey i mean he wouldnt have even made it in tech support [00:32] matey i used to have a modem with FIVE lights on the front-- how am i supposed to tell him? [00:32] matey THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS! [00:32] MinceR lol [00:32] matey actually i take it back, thats every tech support call ive ever had [00:32] matey he would be perfect for that, if the starship captain thing doesnt work out [00:33] matey hello this is jean-luc, have you tried tuhhhning it Ohn and Ohf again? [00:33] matey "hello, jean-luc" [00:33] matey "q! i told you, unless you have a problem with your internet connection not to call me here!" [00:33] matey "oh well, it just so happens ive subscribed" [00:34] matey "why? youre om-nip-o-tent, you dont NEED an internet connection" [00:34] matey "yes, but i thought itd be so fun to have one you humans diagnose the issues with it" [00:34] matey "whats the problem?" [00:34] matey "its in another galaxy." [00:34] matey "well, i dont handle that sort of problem anymore" [00:35] matey om-nip-o-tent is how he pronounces it, you see [00:35] MinceR lol [00:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:36] matey its subtle, but the shakespearan "penchant" is sort of a H-omage to what kirk did [00:37] matey KIRK! you dont-- NEED-- an-- internet connection! [00:37] matey JEAN-LUC-- you dont NEEEEEEED an internet connection [00:37] matey continutity is very important to star trek [00:37] matey but ONLY from series to series [00:37] matey NOT from episode to episode or season to season, obviously [00:37] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:38] matey continutity <- i did it again [00:38] matey "it's 'conti-nyuuudity... [00:38] matey "no! no its not [00:38] matey "where are your closing quotes? [00:38] matey "rick berman ran off with them, he said he had an idea [00:38] matey "go to red alert [00:39] chicksahoy Citizenfour was an awesome documentary [00:40] matey im pretty sure all tech support on earth is done by cardassian interrogators [00:41] matey "im going to sent a reset packet to your modem, that should fix the problem" [00:41] matey "no it wont! that doesnt do anything at all, and the problem is clearly on your side!" [00:41] matey "what makes you think that?" [00:41] matey "probably because your isp is on fire and all the lights are out, and no one else in the city has a connection either" [00:41] matey "well, we can just send reset packets to them, too" [00:41] matey "yes, but how!" [00:42] matey "mobile?" [00:46] matey i reset packet is a completely imaginary thing, like a wotsit [00:47] matey so is a reset packet, but its a different type [00:47] matey a reset packet is a half truth, and therefore a half-lie [00:47] matey what it really means is [00:47] matey they know theres a problem on their side, as you havent actually changed your setup at all, but now it has stopped working. [00:48] matey but, if it was a SERIOUS problem, they would probably mention it (probably) [00:48] matey so really, a reset packet is a thing they made up that means "we know theres a problem, its just not serious enough for us to admit it and service will be back soon" [00:48] matey but you have to call and get a reset packet in order for them to tell you this [00:48] DaemonFC I noticed Capital One has a lot of different phone numbers. [00:49] matey or, you can NOT call and guess how serious it is instead of simply getting a reset packet. [00:49] DaemonFC If you have a Savor One card, you can call that number and it sends you to someone in the US. [00:49] DaemonFC If you have the Quicksilver or Walmart Rewards cards, those send you to the Philippines. [00:49] matey alternatively, a reset packet is a digital version of a communion wafer, except for modems [00:50] matey some modems are religious and this is what they have to receive each week in order to stay in good graces with their virtual deity [00:50] matey but i like my first theory better [00:50] matey very observant modems will pretend to have connection problems, just to receive it [00:51] matey their god is willing to overlook this little white lie, as long as its for a higher cause [00:51] matey this puts the isp in the role of the church [00:52] matey but personally im surprised they havent already said theyre "bigger than jesus" like the beatles did [00:54] matey i think some of the isps in the states already claim to be "bigger than satan" [00:55] matey at&t handed out shirts with this slogan at one of their annual picnics [00:55] matey ibm replied "no, you arent bigger than me" [00:56] matey but thats a marketshare argument, the same kind that makes windows seem like it matters [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 39.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 394.98 ● May 29 [01:08] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:10] *chicksahoy has quit (Quit: leaving) [01:41] *matey (~matey@y73dbcj7dvbju.irc) has joined #techrights [01:41] matey i found out what happens when you mock a modems religious beliefs [01:41] matey but i think the issue was simpler than that and slightly more technical [01:41] matey new labour managed to hollow out the "welfare state" more efficiently than thatcher, according to some (british) right wing paper [01:41] matey this is way more relevant than it sounds [01:42] matey blair signed onto (perpetrated, participated directly in) war crimes, but beyond that [01:42] matey relevant because while in office his foreign policy was no different from putins [01:42] matey though xrevan may protest (i welcome him to do so) [01:42] matey i think the similarities are more important, which isnt the same as saying the differences are irrelevant [01:43] matey i wanted to mention the hypocrisy of new labour talking about progress [01:43] matey they moved towards authoritarianism-- towards pushing people into destitution [01:44] matey towards policies that disenfranchised so many people on both sides of the aisle that it contributed to brexit (imo) [01:45] matey but after gutting nhs, gutting help for single mums, gutting human rights and even mass murdering people in a country they had about as much business in as putin has in ukraine [01:45] matey blair has the nerve to describe today (that is, this year) his term as one of PROGRESS! [01:45] matey what he did was turn the labour party into a complete farce [01:46] matey since then, others have come along and made it worse still [01:46] matey but theyll call it progress [01:46] matey this is not even anti-labour, its anti bullshit [01:46] matey gutting something and calling it progress should sound familiar to anyone who gives a shit about free software [01:46] matey because thats what theyve been doing since 2019 [01:46] matey gutting it and calling it progress [01:46] matey its not an isolated thing at all [01:46] matey more like a sign of the times [01:47] matey (no, not those times. though mincer has his fingers crossed) [01:47] matey ibm and red hat, same deal [01:47] matey we dont want to gut red hat [01:47] matey we just want to fund it [01:47] matey who believed them? [01:47] matey who believed it would get better with ibm owning it? [01:48] matey because everyone knows, the real problem red hat was having was lack of funding [01:48] matey it wasnt lack of integrity, abundance of greed, megalomania or anything like THAT [01:48] matey they only needed more money to thrive [01:48] matey now they have it, everything is great [01:49] matey oh, wait, no [01:49] matey its much worse [01:49] matey whos surprised? [01:49] matey id like to see the labour party fix itself [01:49] matey unlike the fsf, i think its a distinct possibility [01:49] matey why? [01:49] matey unlike with the fsf, there are loads of people committed to restoring the left wing spirit of the labour party [01:50] matey of course like the fsf, those people have fuck-all in terms of power and influence at the moment [01:50] matey well, thats not entirely true. theyre building it slowly [01:50] matey gradually taking it back (unlike the fsf) [01:50] matey it IS possible to do it [01:50] matey but only if you have enough people who know what theyre doing [01:50] matey and of course, none of this is (anytime soon) reflected in the candiates [01:51] matey theyre as bad as ever, and the people who actually want progress arent fooled by this nonsense [01:51] matey (again, a parallel-- the few people who actually believe free software is about freedom arent fooled by all this horseshit coming out of the fsf lately) [01:51] matey progress is not about tiny reforms that are followed by two steps back [01:52] matey if all you can get is a tiny reform-- you call it what it is, and keep fighting for more [01:52] matey you dont say "oh hey, this is great! WE WON!" [01:52] matey open source does that [01:53] matey it does reform tony blair style-- kill hundreds of thousands of iraqis for profit, put single mums on the street and say its PROGRESS [01:53] matey open source is what red hat is all about [01:53] matey its the new labour of free software [01:54] matey this is by all means, the fake left [01:54] matey but its not the party i dislike, its the people who have taken it over, who are fraunds [01:54] matey fucksake [01:54] matey frauds [01:55] matey they may also be fronds [01:55] matey all mr stallman is going to do from now on [01:55] matey is kowtow to tiny reforms and endorse them, and wave like the queen [01:56] matey but like with new labour, these tiny reforms are actually steps backwards, framed to look like steps forward [01:56] matey its not progress when mums suddenly cant pay the rent or feed her kids [01:56] matey its not progress when a million cameras go up on every corner [01:56] matey its not progress when every browser has fucking telemetry [01:57] matey but the worthless software foundation will find a way to make it sound good [01:57] matey because they want your money [01:57] matey sure, they can always get handouts from corporations [01:57] matey but that looks bad [01:57] matey they want YOU to make them look like they stand for anything [01:57] matey especially, more than ever, now that they stand for FUCK ALL [01:57] matey though people who know better wont fall for it [01:57] matey that goes without saying [01:58] matey but there are people who claim to know anything that DO fall for it [01:58] matey or act like they do [01:58] matey we should feel sorry for those people [01:58] matey but not too much [01:58] matey after all, theyre part of the problem [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 400.80 [01:59] matey they dont have to be, but they are for now [01:59] matey and just like pretending that the fsf stands for anything, when its plainly clear they dont ● May 29 [02:00] matey pretending that anyone is helping by propping up bullshit is the same problem on a local level [02:00] matey and just as pointless [02:00] matey people shouldnt live in fear of saying its bullshit [02:00] matey but thats what all this pc bullshit was about [02:00] matey its not because they care [02:00] matey its because they dont want people to be able to say what a worthless job theyre doing [02:00] matey they came in to replace the regime with nothing at all [02:00] matey theyve done it [02:00] matey now, you cant say it [02:00] matey they want you to think you cant say it [02:01] matey but the more people say how shit it is, the more likely progress will come, from somewhere [02:01] matey not from the fsf, theyve sold out [02:01] matey theyre open source now [02:01] matey theyre not the fsf [02:01] matey never will be [02:01] matey the only group of people working their arses off to change the fsf are the shills [02:02] matey and the lukewarm shits who love tiny reforms that are really steps backward [02:02] matey lieplanet is their celebration of mediocrity [02:02] matey the freedom ladder to nowhere [02:03] matey in ten years, the freedom ladder will be propped up against an alley wall, holding a sign asking for spare change [02:03] matey on a nearby corner maybe the fsf will be doing the same [02:03] matey in ten years, the freedom ladder will look less well-taken care of than stallman ever has been (or has allegedly been) [02:04] matey i mean hes not that much worse off than john lennon ffs [02:04] matey one was a hacker, the other a world star [02:04] matey both were assassinated by people who are sociopathic and insane [02:05] matey who simply wanted to make a name for themselves [02:05] matey at his expense [02:05] matey but the freedom ladder is such a joke [02:05] matey because the people who talk about it dont know where theyre going [02:05] matey or what theyre doing [02:05] matey they have no plan [02:05] matey they dont understand freedom-- at all [02:05] matey they dont stand for anything, clearly [02:06] matey they bullshit themselves so they can bullshit other people, so they can raise funds THAT DO NOTHING [02:06] matey so they can have fake reforms that go backwards [02:06] matey AND THATS "the freedom ladder" [02:06] matey its definite step down [02:06] matey just like stallmans [02:07] matey the future is ugly [02:07] matey if we were drunk with anything, its sobriety now [02:07] matey waking up next an ugly unrecognisable face [02:07] matey that used to be free software [02:08] matey people will cling to the past, but that only gets you so much [02:08] matey at some people theyll have to deal with this ugly future [02:08] matey SOME PEOPLE are going to instead believe these liars and hopeless hopers [02:08] matey and see if they have anything to say at all [02:08] matey spoiler: they have nothing to say [02:08] matey because they dont know anything about freedom [02:09] matey freedom is hard work [02:09] matey these people came in and thought they could make it easier [02:09] matey thought it was hard because stallman made it difficult [02:09] matey freedom is difficult [02:09] matey if you get rid of the people who understand it, it doesnt get easier [02:09] matey because it wasnt them who made it so much trouble [02:09] matey surprise, it was freedom itself thats an insufferable pain in the arse [02:09] matey you thought stallman was bad? [02:09] matey wait until you (lieplanet cunts) see a mirror someday [02:10] matey stallman wasnt half as bad [02:10] matey no one wants anything to do with a bunch of know-nothing lying cunts who think the fsf wasnt authoritarian enough [02:10] matey new labour [02:10] matey its not labour at all [02:10] matey new fsf [02:10] matey its not free software at all [02:10] matey lots of luck, fuckers [02:11] matey there will be free software [02:11] matey it wont come from these pretenders [02:11] matey who know nothing about it [02:11] matey we knew they were fakes when they were taking over [02:11] matey now theyve taken over. still fake as hell [02:12] matey you want obedience, youll have obedient fools [02:14] matey free software will come from people who dont get permission [02:14] matey not from stallman [02:14] matey not from corporations [02:14] matey not from lieplanet [02:14] matey only now its going to take longer [02:14] matey thats what counterrevolutions do [02:14] matey they slow things down [02:14] DaemonFC alternatively, a reset packet is a digital version of a communion wafer, except for modems [02:14] matey not insignificantly [02:15] DaemonFC I thought you couldn't take communion if you had an abortion. [02:15] matey weve lost a good decade to shit like this [02:15] matey but the counterrevolution is decades old [02:16] matey the movement still had enough momentum that a decade into open source [02:16] matey free software was still going [02:16] matey from 2011 it started to slow down, and since 2014 its been in a slow reverse [02:16] matey history repeats itself-- first as a tragedy [02:16] matey then as a farce [02:16] matey the fsf is that farce. lieplanet is that farce [02:17] matey for software to be free, now it will have to move past ALL of that [02:17] matey or, it can play pretend, with a bunch of idiots who make arts and crafts out of their armpit hair or something [02:18] matey and have the audacity (the gall as well as the shitty telemetry-laden former application) to say stallmans weird [02:18] matey thats what happens when everything is run by hypocrites and backstabbers [02:18] matey seriously [02:18] matey what did you suspect? [02:20] matey people think if we pretend its getting better, it magically will [02:20] matey not if we cant be honest [02:20] matey when they ban honesty, its clear they cant work within that sort of restriction [02:20] matey they need to be able to bullshit people [02:20] matey for their plan to work [02:20] matey that by itself should clue people in to what the future looks like [02:21] matey they didnt ban criticism of the people who came before, obviously [02:21] matey youre only banned from criticising the changes [02:21] matey what else do you need to know about the new fsf [02:21] matey what else would be necessary to prove what its future looks like? [02:22] matey some people just want to pretend [02:22] matey thats fine. but theyre idiots [02:22] matey whats more, they wont bring us anything but fake reforms, fake progress, steps backwards [02:22] matey thats enough reason to not suck up to them [02:22] matey other than the fact that they dont deserve respect [02:23] matey who respects such people? [02:23] matey only the same sort of person [02:23] matey idiots, fakes. shills. [02:23] matey but lets be nice. there are more suckers than deliberate shills [02:23] matey shills never learn. suckers sometimes get smarter [02:24] matey so we can hope for the best in that regard, as long as we dont get too optimistic [02:24] matey but sucking up to them is a hilarious non-plan sort of plan [02:24] matey its fine, if you like useless [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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[03:05] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 448650 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40825 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 day 16h ago [03:06] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 385 MB TotalOut: 65 MB [03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:08] IPFS QmaXs6nissBVhNYAYHVGqvFS4Kfy7Nq2ECoYf2jAVZYgbq [03:08] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:56] DaemonFC MinceR, The Wave Music System IV gets mixed reviews. [03:56] DaemonFC A lot of people are saying it eats their CDs and won't give them back or play them and the whole thing dies after 6-7 months. [03:56] DaemonFC Well, that was $500+tax well spent. [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 414.53 ● May 29 [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 9.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 410.73 ● May 29 [05:32] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, May 28, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [05:32] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [05:32] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [05:32] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [05:37] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D245.jpg [05:37] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D602.jpg [05:38] TR News 2022-05-28 cgmnlm 1.4 gemini://en.gmn.clttr.info/ [05:43] TR News "This is also great because I can use shorthand in the daily log (I need to use longhand for prep so that the players can verify stuff, but logs arent prep)" https://idiomdrottning.org/dnd-logging | Source: Idiomdrottning [05:43] TR Bot Daily logging on al-Toril [05:44] TR News "In other words the game is a directed acyclic graph. 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While Jam is a great build system, its legacy codebase makes it difficult to fix bugs or introduce new features" https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/dominicm/2022-05-25_gsoc_2022_ham_a_jam_replacement/ | Source: HaikuOS [05:44] TR Bot [GSoC 2022] Ham: A Jam Replacement | Haiku Project [05:45] TR News "OpenBSD has provided binary patches for a select few architectures for a while now, to save users from the daunting task of running make on their own." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/reversing-an-openbsd-syspatch | Source: Ted Unangst [05:45] TR Bot reversing an openbsd kernel syspatch [05:45] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/28/authorities-say-registered-violent-offender-dressed-up-as-cub-scout-attended-meeting-with-young-children-in-lake-zurich/ [05:45] TR Bot Authorities say registered violent offender dressed up as Cub Scout, attended meeting with young children in Lake Zurich [05:45] DaemonFC A 40 year old man.... What was their first clue he wasn't a Cub Scout? [05:45] TR News "These topics came up again and again this week, a decade later. Half a dozen panels mentioned the challenge of figuring out a business model that offsets the ongoing cost of smart devices." https://staceyoniot.com/the-smart-home-is-stuck-in-stasis-and-im-stuck-in-dallas/ | Source: Stacy on IoT [05:45] TR Bot The smart home is stuck in stasis (and I'm stuck in Dallas) - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [05:46] DaemonFC "Neil J. Pawelczak, 40, of the 2200 block of Aloha Drive in McHenry, was charged with two counts of violating the sex offender registry, a Class 4 felony." [05:46] DaemonFC Well, say Aloha to him. [05:48] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/28/waukegan-man-ordered-held-without-bond-for-shooting-into-occupied-car-during-apparent-road-rage-in-mchenry/ [05:48] TR Bot Waukegan man ordered held without bond for shooting into occupied car during apparent road rage in McHenry [05:49] DaemonFC The felon, Waukegan Man, had a gun even though it was already illegal for him to have one. [05:49] DaemonFC The law abiding citizen had to fend him off with....pepper spray. [05:49] DaemonFC Illinois. [05:50] DaemonFC "Marek said that the dashcam video clearly depicts Colons face and the image was compared to Secretary of State records." [05:50] DaemonFC schestowitz, There you go. The dashcam was compared to the license branch records, and then they knew who he was. Facial recognition. [05:52] DaemonFC Neither the driver, nor the shooter, should have been released from prison to begin with for what they had done previously. [05:52] DaemonFC If we had done things the way I would, this wouldn't have happened. [05:52] DaemonFC They'd be in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives getting their meals through a slot in the door. [05:54] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/23/2-hospitalized-after-three-vehicle-crash-that-left-car-fully-engulfed-in-flames-in-lincolnshire/ [05:54] TR Bot 2 hospitalized after three-vehicle crash that left car fully engulfed in flames in Lincolnshire [05:55] DaemonFC MinceR, "Run Marty! It's the Libyans!" [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 231.36 ● May 29 [06:03] TR News "The SparkFun MicroMod Single Pair Ethernet Function Board introduces 10BASE-T1L Two-Wire Ethernet protocol into the SparkFun MicroMod ecosystem." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4635 | Source: SparkFun Electronics [06:03] TR Bot Pair Ethernet with MicroMod - News - SparkFun Electronics [06:04] TR News "he door in question is quite heavy, but OHara had a beefy motor with a gearbox to increase the torque. That pulls the door open by reeling in a wire via a pulley." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/28/using-the-force-to-open-a-door/ | Source: Arduino [06:04] TR Bot Using The Force to open a door | Arduino Blog [06:04] TR News "As someone who has spent a bit too much time nerding out over space and atmospheric weather, but never touched seismology, I decided it was time to dig deep and learn a bit more about the Earth" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/watching-earth-move-raspberry-pi | Source: Jeff Geerling [06:04] TR Bot Watching the Earth move with a Raspberry Pi | Jeff Geerling [06:05] TR News "The first thing to check is the audio amp and filter. The unique thing about this is that it requires a -5v to generate some of the waveform. Guess what? -5v wasnt there, instead it was +0.75v." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/05/24/amiga-1000-restoration-audio-repair/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings [06:05] TR Bot Amiga 1000 Restoration: Audio Repair LinuxJedi's /dev/null [06:05] TR News "In this post, Ill walk through how I chose the parts, what mistakes I made, and my recommendations for anyone interested in building their own" https://mtlynch.io/budget-nas/ | Source: Michael Lynch [06:05] TR Bot a Budget Homelab NAS Server (2022 Edition) mtlynch.io [06:08] TR News "If youre coming to M1 Mac fresh, without any old projects or profiles, you probably wont notice; Homebrew will work as it always has." https://earthly.dev/blog/homebrew-on-m1/ | Source: Earthly [06:08] TR Bot Using Homebrew on M1 Mac - Earthly Blog [06:08] TR News "Please dont let this be another hang up if youve considered writing but are worried about how often you could post. A well written post about a project every other year is already hugely valuable." https://rubenerd.com/prematurely-labelling-rss-feeds-as-inactive/ | Source: Ruben Schade [06:08] TR Bot Prematurely labelling RSS feeds as inactive [06:09] TR News "Just like weve recently done with Vivaldi, the enthusiasts browser, weve highlighted the top 8 reasons to quit Chrome and make the switch to Firefox. Lets dig in." https://www.pcworld.com/article/704687/8-reasons-to-ditch-chrome-and-switch-to-firefox.html | Source: PC World [06:09] TR Bot reasons to ditch Chrome and switch to Firefox | PCWorld [06:12] TR News "Today, while looking at previously-logged data in preparation for consumption of future similar data, I discovered to my horror, that tinylog(8) truncates lines at what I first assumed was 1024 but actually is 1000 bytes" https://jpmens.net/2022/05/25/a-backup-is-only-as-good-as/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens [06:12] TR Bot Jan-Piet Mens :: A backup is only as good as ... [06:12] TR News "Here's another note-to-self on using jq to shape JSON representations of OData to match what's returned using system query options. Thsi time it's all filtering at two levels" https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/05/28/multiple-level-filters-in-jq/ | Source: DJ Adams [06:12] TR Bot Multiple level filters in jq | DJ Adams [06:13] TR News "So far I have a simple clojure notebook with coarse-grained incremental maintenance. There are data cells that can be mutated by other code, with the changes being persisted back into the cell." https://www.scattered-thoughts.net/log/0024/ | Source: Jamie Brandon [06:13] TR Bot 0024: HYTRADBOI postmortem, HYTWACFI?, preimp, emergent ventures, data and reality, merkle search trees, readyset, julia compilation times [06:13] TR News "Initially, I had written a quick and dirty AVX-512 kernel for simdjson. We never merged it and after a time, I just deleted it. I then forgot about it." https://lemire.me/blog/2022/05/25/parsing-json-faster-with-intel-avx-512/ | Source: Daniel Lemire [06:13] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/05/25/parsing-json-faster-with-intel-avx-512/ ) [06:14] TR News "Best Books on Data Science with Python, In the subject of data science, Python is one of the most extensively used programming languages" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/05/best-books-on-data-science-with-python/ | Source: Rlang [06:14] TR Bot Books on Data Science with Python | R-bloggers [06:14] TR News "A new project has been released which seeks to teach people how to use a UNIX style shell via a game-like experience" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/gameshell-interactive-game-for-learning | Source: Bryan Lunduke [06:14] TR Bot "GameShell" interactive game for learning Linux shell commands [06:15] TR News "This report, by Aaron Gordon for Motherboard, looks like a hypothetical dreamed up by a particularly cruel constitutional law professor:" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/27/san-francisco-cops-are-accessing-autonomous-vehicle-recordings-to-collect-evidence/ | Source: Techdirt [06:15] TR Bot Francisco Cops Are Accessing Autonomous Vehicle Recordings To Collect Evidence | Techdirt [06:16] TR News "Taiwan based Cincoze, released a compact and robust PC that is powered by 9/8th Gen Intel Core CPUs (i7, i5, i3) and up to 128GB of DDR4 memory" https://linuxgizmos.com/coffee-lake-based-rugged-pc-offers-flexible-display-support-and-extensive-storage-capacity/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [06:16] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/coffee-lake-based-rugged-pc-offers-flexible-display-support-and-extensive-storage-capacity/ ) [06:16] TR News "In this guide, we will cover how to install RHEL 9 step by step along with screenshots. Before jumping into the installation steps, lets look at new features and improvements in RHEL 9." https://www.linuxtechi.com/how-to-install-rhel-9-step-by-step/ | [06:16] TR Bot How to Install RHEL 9 Step by Step with Screenshots [06:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [06:27] TR News "Kleptopia is a nonfiction chronicle of international financial corruption and money laundering told via a focus on the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/0-06-323613-3.html [06:27] TR Bot Review: Kleptopia by Tom Burgis [06:28] TR News PulseAudio 16.0 release notes https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Notes/16.0/ [06:28] TR Bot 16.0 [06:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi [06:30] TR News OpenPGP Email Summit https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/29/europe-trip-journal-entry-24-26-openpgp-email-summit/ [06:30] TR Bot Europe Trip Journal Entry 24 26: OpenPGP Email Summit vanitasvitae's blog [06:33] TR News kpcyrd: auth-tarball-from-git: Verifying tarballs with signed git tags https://vulns.xyz/2022/05/auth-tarball-from-git/ [06:33] TR Bot Verifying tarballs with signed git tags - vulns.xyz [06:35] DaemonFC Red Hat was moving more towards an opaque-source model a long time before IBM bought them. [06:35] DaemonFC But they got really nasty after the CentOS debacle. [06:35] DaemonFC Nobody, even Rocky, knows what's actually in their kernel. [06:36] DaemonFC You can see the entirety of the source, which technically complies with the license, but all you can really do with it is build it. It's a lot of source code, and even if you did pay people to audit it all to make sure Red Hat didn't slip in nasty things like backdoors, they just bump the kernel all the time anyway. [06:37] DaemonFC So there's nobody looking, as far as I'm aware of, to see what's actually in the thing, because with that much source code, nobody can. [06:37] schestowitz_TR2 DaemonFC: are you writing about WSL and the FUD? [06:37] DaemonFC Oh, that stalled out this evening. I caught the mail room bandit! [06:37] DaemonFC Chased her out and got her plate number and called it in to the police. [06:37] DaemonFC Make, model, color, plate. [06:37] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165364 [06:37] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [06:38] TR News Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: This Week in Linux, Sudo Show, Why Dont Linux Terminals Show The Pasword You Type Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165365 [06:38] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: This Week in Linux, Sudo Show, Why Don't Linux Terminals Show The Pasword You Type | Tux Machines [06:38] TR News "FreeBSD 13.1 stable version is officially released. This tutorial walks you through the steps to upgrade to FreeBSD 13.1 from FreeBSD 12.3 and older versions." https://ostechnix.com/how-to-upgrade-to-freebsd-13-from-freebsd-12/ | [06:38] TR Bot To Upgrade To FreeBSD 13 From FreeBSD 12 - OSTechNix [06:39] TR News iophk: NYT intentionally mischaracterizes the topic; the "self-service" program is missing 99% of what is needed; https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/new-york-times-contributes-to-poor-apple:7 [06:39] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, Yes, WSL is attack surface. Everything they put into Windows is attack surface. And we should mention that not only is it attack surface, it's a compatibility later. A lousy compatibility layer on a lousy OS. Which is exactly what SCO did. [06:39] TR Bot New York Times contributes to poor Apple self-repair program coverage [06:39] DaemonFC The Linux Kernel Personality may have even infringed the GPL, but nobody bothered to sue SCO. [06:39] DaemonFC Even with everything SCO was doing. [06:40] TR News FB = social control media https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/05/21/how-facebook-let-fake-engagement-distort-global-politics/ [06:40] TR Bot How Facebook let fake engagement distort global politics neritam [06:40] TR News old: NTFS is toxin inside Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/problems_for_the_linux_kernel_ntfs/ [06:40] TR Bot Linux kernel NTFS driver author goes silent The Register [06:40] TR News Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165366 [06:40] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [06:40] DaemonFC In the end, I think SCO just paid a consultant to go digging and all he came back with was that a few header files looked vaguely similar to the UNIX kernel's, and then they got expert testimony that there really was no way to implement such a thing other than that, and then the judge ruled that SCO didn't even own UNIX anyway. [06:41] DaemonFC What a mess, and it was all Microsoft's seed money funding this. [06:41] DaemonFC That was their second phase in the attack. [06:42] DaemonFC The first one was ignore or trivialize it, then they paid terrorists to pop up and make the thing look dangerous to use, and now they're embedded in the "open source community" working to sabotage everything all at once from within. And the pay offs aren't even expensive in most cases. [06:43] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:43] DaemonFC And so we're in this third phase now, and WSL is part of this phase. When will they give up on it? Like Google, they burn things down and walk away when it becomes real work for them all the time. [06:43] DaemonFC So you should hope you don't have a workflow that depends on it for that reason as well. [06:45] DaemonFC We know Microsoft didn't want to ship a Linux kernel, but the Linux kernel simulation they were paying people to write was so bad it was hysterically funny. They had to maintain that it was "clean" from knowledge of anything GPL, so it meant people at Microsoft writing something with only some vague concept of how Linux actually worked. [06:46] TR News How to Store an SSH Key on a Yubikey https://xeiaso.net/blog/yubikey-ssh-key-storage | [06:46] DaemonFC WSL gives applications running in it full access to the host with the goal that to the user it will appear seamless. And here's the problem. Whenever Microsoft comes face to face with ease-of-use vs. security, security loses. [06:46] TR Bot How to Store an SSH Key on a Yubikey - Xe [06:47] DaemonFC Virtualization gives you the opportunity to wall off the guest, but WSL doesn't. [06:48] TR News "What adding this header does is exclude your website from being used when calcualting a users cohort. A cohort is an identifier shared with a few thousand other users" https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/04/16/permissions-policy-floc-misinfo/ | Source: Rohan Kumar [06:48] TR Bot Misinfo about Permissions Policy and FLoC - Seirdy [06:48] TR News "Last night the news broke that DuckDuckGo have been effectively whitelisting Microsoft trackers in their browser as a result of their agreement with the tech giant. Brilliant." https://kevq.uk/is-duckduckgo-duckduckdone/ | Source: Kev Quirk [06:48] TR Bot Is DuckDuckGo, DuckDuckDone? - Kev Quirk [06:48] TR News "I did narrow it down: it turns out that the Go Module Mirror runs some crawlers that periodically clone Git repositories with Go modules in them to check for updates." https://drewdevault.com/2022/05/25/Google-has-been-DDoSing-sourcehut.html | Source: Drew DeVault [06:48] TR Bot Google has been DDoSing SourceHut for over a year [06:48] TR News DuckDuckGo is too privacy what 'secure' boot is to computer security [06:50] TR News "OpenIKED 7.1 was released on May 23rd, 2022." https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220527103136 | Source: Undeadly [06:50] TR Bot OpenIKED 7.1 released [06:50] TR News "You know what I also love? Playing with various email providers and client applications. Currently I maintain accounts with the following vendors (listed in order of preference): [...]" https://batsov.com/articles/2022/05/27/email-mania/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov [06:50] TR Bot Email Mania - (think) [06:51] TR News "This pandemic has raised the ratio of remote jobs in the past few years and the ticket to success lies within it." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/5-most-high-demand-skillsets-for-remote-jobs/ | Source: Geeks For Geeks [06:51] TR Bot 5 Most High-Demand Skillsets For Remote Jobs - GeeksforGeeks [06:51] TR News "Buying a keyboard, should be like buying an office chair. Youve got to test it, find whether you like it or not, and only then buy it." https://afhub.dev/2022/05/26/is-there-a-perfect-keyboard/ | Source: Andre Franca [06:51] TR Bot Is there a perfect keyboard? [06:52] TR News "Of course, heavy social-media use really can threaten a relationship." https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2022/05/terminally-online-relationship-dating-similarities/629946/ | Source: The Atlantic [06:52] TR Bot Is Online Presence a Turnoff? - The Atlantic [06:54] TR News PulseAudio 16.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165367 [06:54] TR Bot PulseAudio 16.0 | Tux Machines [06:58] TR News PulseAudio 16 Released with Bluetooth Improvements, Opus Support in RTP Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165368 [06:58] TR Bot PulseAudio 16 Released with Bluetooth Improvements, Opus Support in RTP Modules | Tux Machines [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● May 29 [07:01] TR News "A major criticism of Bitcoin is that its blockchain processes only around 230K transactions/day, of which only about 10% are "economically meaningful." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/05/cryptocurrency-catch-22.html | Source: David Rosenthal [07:01] TR Bot DSHR's Blog: Cryptocurrency Catch-22 [07:02] TR News "Ruediger Loechenhoff has been able to create a far cheaper solar tracker controller, which relies on an Arduino Uno to drive a set of two motors that position the panel." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/24/this-sun-tracker-uses-an-arduino-to-increase-solar-panel-efficiency/ | Source: Arduino [07:02] TR Bot This sun tracker uses an Arduino to increase solar panel efficiency | Arduino Blog [07:03] TR News "In one important respect, upload filtering is worse than content moderation. The latter can be circumvented by the use of algospeak that constantly evolves to stay one step ahead of the filtering." https://walledculture.org/even-algospeak-wont-save-us-from-upload-filter-overblocking/ | Source: Walled Culture [07:03] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/even-algospeak-wont-save-us-from-upload-filter-overblocking/ ) [07:09] TR News Schrems https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.version2.dk/artikel/max-schrems-paa-v2-security-ny-dataaftale-med-usa-bliver-noget-skrald [07:09] TR Bot Max Schrems p V2 Security: Ny dataaftale med USA bliver noget skrald | Version2 [07:09] TR News EU against privacy https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/chatkontrolle-messenger-ueberwachung-duerfte-an-deutschland-scheitern-a-61338f80-839f-4798-b8d9-180e7a5bb711 [07:10] TR Bot Chatkontrolle: Messenger-berwachung drfte an Deutschland scheitern - DER SPIEGEL [07:10] TR News GDPR https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.version2.dk/artikel/tillykke-med-foedselsdagen-de-vigtigste-gdpr-begivenheder-det-seneste-aar [07:10] TR Bot GDPR fylder fire: Her er de vigtigste sager det seneste r | Version2 [07:10] TR News Also GDPR https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/05/25/gdpr-fyller-fyra-ar-men-hur-blev-det-egentligen/ [07:10] TR Bot GDPR fyller fyra r men hur blev det egentligen? [07:10] TR News What Happened on Day 94 of the War in Ukraine - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/28/world/russia-ukraine-war/it-destroys-bunkers-russia-systematically-uses-thermobaric-warheads-in-ukraine Source: nytimes [07:10] TR Bot What Happened on Day 94 of the War in Ukraine - The New York Times [07:11] TR News Why Disinformation Has Flourished During the Pandemic - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/27/0943201 Source: soylentnews [07:11] TR Bot Why Disinformation Has Flourished During the Pandemic - SoylentNews [07:12] TR News MPA https://torrentfreak.com/sued-iptv-operator-is-curious-about-mpas-involvement-with-torrentfreak-220528/ | Source: Torrent Freak [07:12] TR Bot IPTV Operator is Curious About MPA's "Involvement" With TorrentFreak * TorrentFreak [07:13] TR News Alaska https://www.propublica.org/article/sniffen-alaska-ag-sexual-assault-charges | Pro Publica has meanwhile taken bribes from Jeffrey Epstein's enabler, famous criminal Bill Gates [07:13] TR Bot Alaska Charges Former Acting Attorney General With Sexual Abuse of a Minor ProPublica [07:14] TR News Covid-19 Patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/28/world-leaders-must-commit-end-covid-19-patents-nobel-laureate-muhammad-yunus | Source: Common Dreams [07:14] TR Bot World Leaders Must Commit to End Covid-19 Patents: Nobel Laureate Muhammad Yunus [07:15] TR News Real Change Will Bubble Up Not Trickle Down https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/28/real-change-will-bubble-not-trickle-down | Source: Common Dreams [07:15] TR Bot Opinion | Real Change Will Bubble Up Not Trickle Down | Michael J. Illuzzi [07:17] TR News "The video, with more than 181,000 views, in which top U.S. officials in 2014 discuss changing the Ukrainian government, had been removed from YouTube after more than 8 years" https://scheerpost.com/2022/05/28/nuland-pyatt-video-restored-to-youtube/ | Source: Scheerpost [07:17] TR Bot Video Restored to YouTube scheerpost.com [07:19] TR News "[Alexander] created codex_py2cpp as a way of experimenting with Codex, an AI intended to translate natural language into code." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/28/ai-attempts-converting-python-code-to-c/ | Source: Hackaday [07:19] TR Bot Attempts Converting Python Code To C++ | Hackaday [07:19] TR News "With the Great Chip Shortage still delaying deliveries of new components, now might be a good time to look around your lab and inspect those piles of chips that you thought might come in handy one day." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/28/hackaday-prize-2022-reuse-those-dip-chips-to-make-a-1980s-style-single-board-computer/ | Source: Hackaday [07:19] TR Bot Prize 2022: Reuse Those DIP Chips To Make A 1980s-Style Single-Board Computer | Hackaday [07:20] TR News "In 2004, high-ranking staffers in the George W. Bush administration spearheaded a holistic review of the president's emergency powers" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/28/new-documents-reveal-just-how-much-emergency-power-us-government-thinks-it-might | Source: Common Dreams [07:20] TR Bot Opinion | New Documents Reveal Just How Much 'Emergency Power' the US Government Thinks It Might Have | Benjamin Waldman [07:21] TR News "If theres something weird in your Network Neighborhood, who you gonna call? If you want your WiFi troubles diagnosed in style, try calling [Travis Kaun] he might just show up wearing the amazing Pwnton Pack." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/28/track-down-ghosts-in-your-wifi-with-the-pwnton-pack/ | Source: Hackaday [07:21] TR Bot Down Ghosts In Your WiFi With The Pwnton Pack | Hackaday [07:40] DaemonFC I ordered all the stuff I need to make an air purifier. [07:40] DaemonFC Some small command strips, some MERV 13 furnace filters 20x20, and a 20" box fan. [07:41] DaemonFC 3M seems to know people do it. They have an "air purifier kit" they sell, but it's cheaper to order the command strips and filters separately. [07:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:51] TR News Links 29/05/2022: PulseAudio 16.0 and Fresh Complaints About COVID-19 Patents | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/pulseaudio-16-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/pulseaudio-16-0/ [07:51] TR Bot Links 29/05/2022: PulseAudio 16.0 and Fresh Complaints About COVID-19 Patents | Techrights [07:53] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165369 [07:53] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:53] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165370 [07:53] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:53] TR News Free Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165371 [07:53] TR Bot Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:53] TR News Compile GNOME Shell and Apps From Source [Beginners Guide] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165372 [07:53] TR Bot Compile GNOME Shell and Apps From Source [Beginner's Guide] | Tux Machines [07:54] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165373 [07:54] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [07:59] TR News Those faces... https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oj4YqEk3ImQ [07:59] TR Bot Full time SCENES as Real Madrid beat Liverpool in Champions League final - Invidious ● May 29 [08:00] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [08:10] TR News "Intel recently updated the oneAPI Video Processing Library, also known as oneVPL, to version 2022.1. The new update changes Intel's focus on VA-API and Media SDK to the current standard of oneAPI acceleration." https://wccftech.com/intel-adds-arc-a-series-rocky-linux-and-multi-gpu-support-to-onevpl-2022-1/ [08:10] TR Bot Intel adds Arc GPU, Rocky Linux, & multi-GPU functionality support to oneVPL 2022.1 [08:11] TR News Paul E. Mc Kenney: Stupid RCU Tricks: How Read-Intensive is The Kernel's Use of RCU? https://paulmck.livejournal.com/67547.html [08:11] TR Bot Stupid RCU Tricks: How Read-Intensive is The Kernel's Use of RCU? - Paul E. McKenney's Journal LiveJournal [08:11] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165374 [08:11] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [08:11] TR News Annotate PDFs On Linux With PDFrankenstein Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165375 [08:11] TR Bot Annotate PDFs On Linux With PDFrankenstein | Tux Machines [08:43] TR News Software Patents: "'668 patent generally relates to mapping population activity by discerning a location" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/23/3000-awarded-for-gridley-ip-prior-art [08:43] TR Bot $3,000 awarded for Gridley IP prior art Unified Patents [08:44] TR News "Unified is pleased to announce PATROLL crowdsourcing contest winner, Ramesh Varadharaj, who was awarded a cash prize of $2,000 for his prior art submission for U.S. Patent 8,495,167." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/23/lauri-valjakka-prior-art-found-2000-awarded [08:44] TR Bot Lauri Valjakka prior art found, $2,000 awarded Unified Patents [08:47] TR News "The '113 patent relates to generating artist-specified dynamic albums." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/25/3000-for-dynamic-ip-deals-entity-escapex-ip-prior-art [08:47] TR Bot $3,000 for Dynamic IP Deals entity Escapex IP prior art Unified Patents [08:49] TR News Software Patents: "The 275 patent is generally related to financial document retrieval and storage systems and has been asserted against Bank of America, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Capital One, PNC Bank, BancorpSouth Bank, and others." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/27/mirror-imaging-patent-likely-invalid [08:49] TR Bot Mirror Imaging patent likely invalid Unified Patents [08:56] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:58] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@3bnyskzv89v46.irc) has joined #techrights [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● May 29 [09:00] TR News The Boards of Appeal are still kangaroo courts in the EPO https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=563e7f23-7161-4fb0-8de6-a798caece9a1 see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [09:00] TR Bot EPO Guideline for description amendments remain - Lexology [09:00] TR Bot G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [09:11] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [09:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi [09:45] TR News You cannot opt in and out of things that do not exist [09:45] TR News IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 28, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/irc-log-280522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/irc-log-280522/ [09:45] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 28, 2022 | Techrights [09:56] TR News "This was also my understanding of the origin of the EPO's new approach to adaptation of the description. If this explanation is true, then it is deeply troubling in many ways." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/05/board-of-appeal-agrees-that-description.html?showComment=1653566353836#c1219961219872815923 [09:56] TR Bot Board of Appeal agrees that the description amendment requirement lacks legal basis (T 1444/20) - The IPKat ● May 29 [10:25] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:27] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:45] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@yfj9xvtb6yewi.irc) has joined #techrights [10:45] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [10:57] TR News rceptions/ [10:58] TR News Gallery of Patent Law Firms That Still Lie, Still Promote Illegal Agenda, and Casually Game the Media to Mischievously Shape Perceptions http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/gallery-of-patent-law-firms-that-still-lie-still-promote-illegal-agenda-and-casually-game-the-media-to-mischievously-shape-perceptions/ [10:58] TR Bot Gallery of Patent Law Firms That Still Lie, Still Promote Illegal Agenda, and Casually Game the Media to Mischievously Shape Perceptions | Techrights [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● May 29 [11:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:18] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@8ft8yu3acay84.irc) has joined #techrights [11:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:29] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/conditions-of-josh-duggars-supervised-release-after-prison-are-not-typical-but-appropriate-judge-says/ [11:29] TR Bot Conditions of Josh Duggars supervised release after prison are not typical, but appropriate, judge says | WGN-TV [11:29] DaemonFC There should be two conditions. [11:30] DaemonFC 1. The electric chair. 2. The electric chair. [11:31] DaemonFC I figured it was such a good condition, mention it a second time. [11:43] matey priti patel has created a law in the uk that runs contrary to international law, by criminalising asylum seeking by irregular means [11:44] matey most asylum seeking is by "irregular means" due to the circumstances of people who neeed asylum in the first place [11:44] DaemonFC There's no "international law" regarding immigration. [11:45] matey its a bit like saying you cant claim sanctuary in a church if you didnt knock and wait for someone to come to the door, even if the door was open [11:45] DaemonFC Each country can maintain its own system as they see fit, including criminalizing it, or further criminalizing asking for asylum after illegally immigrating and then getting caught and using an asylum application to gum up the works. [11:45] matey but again, this is counter to international law [11:45] DaemonFC Again, there is no real "international law". [11:46] DaemonFC There are only treaties, and the treaties are what each country has agreed to with other countries, and there are no penalties for violating the treaty, you just rip it up. [11:46] matey beyond that, its basically a huge fuck you to people who are fleeing persecution, the entire point of asylum being humanitarian and a demonstration of the fact that some places give a shit about the persecution of groups, because theyre good countries [11:46] DaemonFC Treaties are sort of an agreement in principle that lacks an enforcement mechanism. [11:46] matey these days, no one cares about that. at least by numbers. [11:47] DaemonFC Well, bad apples ruin it for everyone. [11:47] matey in the usa theyre no different. "come here legally" [11:47] DaemonFC Why do you think I'm going through such hell with US Immigration with Mandy? [11:47] DaemonFC Everyone tries to game the system somehow. [11:47] DaemonFC They get caught illegally immigrating here so they throw some bullshit fear of returning to their country. [11:47] matey they dont understand (nor care to understand) how asylum actually works, so theyre content to see it gutted and people who fled the sort of regimes they claim to be against during illegal invasions [11:48] matey i mean, they dont want "illegal invasions" of people fleeing bad countries [11:48] DaemonFC They make something up so the Immigration people have to let them go with a court date that 80% of them don't return for. [11:48] matey but illegal invasions OF those countries [11:48] matey the entire thing is based on opportunism and double standards [11:48] DaemonFC That is what these immigrant caravans are. [11:48] DaemonFC They're declaring an invasion of the United States, which opens up an interesting concept. [11:48] matey we can go there and kill people "because tyrants" [11:48] matey but if those same people who would be "liberated" [11:49] DaemonFC Texas Governor Abbott says that Texas is being invaded, which is true. [11:49] matey DONT come here, STAY there, wait for us to invade and exploit your resources and set up a puppet government [11:49] matey then you wont NEED to flee [11:49] DaemonFC And the US Constitution says that a state cannot declare war or use military force, "unless it has actually been invaded". [11:49] DaemonFC Since they are being invaded, it would seem to imply that Texas has the legal authority to use military force to repel the invasion, since the president isn't helping them. [11:50] matey of course theres a word for that. bollocks. [11:50] matey the first world runs entirely on bullshit [11:50] DaemonFC Texas is arresting and detaining immigrants by themselves. [11:50] matey the rest of the world isnt exactly a haven of humanity either [11:50] DaemonFC They can do that under all sorts of state laws. [11:51] matey you can hardly blame people like mincer for coming to the conclusion he does [11:51] matey though at the moment the problem is not enough people give a shit at the same time [11:51] matey it isnt even the fact that they dont agree on a solution [11:51] DaemonFC They can't necessarily set their own immigration laws, but they can do things like arrest them for trespassing and then make sure it's going to take them 3-4 years to get a trial for trespassing, while they wait in jail or agree to return to Mexico. [11:52] matey because when enough people actually give a shit, agreeing (sufficiently at least) on solutions is a sort of natural byproduct to some degree [11:52] matey people are willing to take solutions seriously enough when they agree on the nature of the problem [11:52] matey when enough people actually give a shit, it stops being rocket science. [11:52] DaemonFC I don't know why we have to let everyone walk in and say they're here when Mandy had to go through the legal process of getting his Green Card. [11:52] DaemonFC We just let these people in who didn't build anything in their own country and then they want welfare and jobs and shit here? [11:52] matey its only hopelessly complicated when not enough people agree on the nature of the problem [11:52] DaemonFC No thanks. [11:53] matey similarly, when enough people realise why free software is failing, the solutions wont seem so complicated [11:53] matey they werent when free software actually understood the problem [11:53] DaemonFC If you're actually going to be murdered or unjustly imprisoned if we send you back, that is the ONLY reason why we should consider your case. [11:53] matey years of lobbying have created DIFFERENT, unsolvable problems, and softer, easier to implement, and utterly useless "solutions" [11:53] DaemonFC Everyone else should get a one way ticket back where they came from if they didn't enter legally. [11:54] matey it really is failing to understand the problem that makes it so impossible to solve [11:54] DaemonFC We shouldn't be heartless, but we shouldn't be chumps just because their country isn't so good. [11:54] matey and getting people to not understand the problem is a core goal of fake progress [11:54] matey including lieplanet, open source, and the new fsf [11:54] DaemonFC If it was a good place, they wouldn't want to come here. Would they? [11:54] DaemonFC But that's not our problem. [11:54] matey its built on pure bullshit [11:54] matey opportunism and double standards [11:55] DaemonFC You don't make your country great by bringing in millions of people with no skills who want to live off of you. [11:55] DaemonFC That's how you weaken it. [11:58] DaemonFC Generally, like "gun violence" we get hated on by a bunch of foreigners who have never even been here. [11:59] DaemonFC If they had to live and share a land border with not one or two or three but like at least 10 third world countries (which seem to be able to use Mexico as a conduit, and the Mexican government doesn't care), they'd probably be fed up with this too. ● May 29 [12:00] DaemonFC Once they get here, they spread out, and when they spread out, you start getting a bunch of rapes, drugs, murders, shootings, hit and run felonies, etc. [12:00] *CrystalMath (~coderain@sx3xywjv5g4x8.irc) has joined #techrights [12:00] DaemonFC Which some people are lucky enough to mostly avoid because they live on an island country where the ocean discourages mass waves of immigrants who are going there to sign up for welfare and go on a crime binge. [12:01] DaemonFC You see how that worked out with the Tsarnaev brothers. [12:02] TR News If one counts revisions and drafts, Techrights has just passed over 160001 (33.5k of which final) [12:02] DaemonFC Russia even warned the United States multiple times, but the Obama administration and State of Massachusetts (Democrats) were letting them live here anyway. Paying for their college, while many Americans can't get help. Eating off of our food stamp program. While they told their classmates they hated America and wanted to kill us, and the police never did anything about it. [12:02] DaemonFC And we all saw how THAT went. [12:03] DaemonFC They were straight up living here for free, going to college for free, eating for free, free healthcare. Things Americans can't get. And they were plotting the Boston Marathon attack and not even being quiet about it. [12:04] DaemonFC And the government did nothing to stop them. Want more free shit? Here you go! [12:05] DaemonFC So no, I don't like that, and anyone who tells me I should like that can eat my shit. [12:10] matey far from being pedantic, the goal of holding people accountable to such bullshit is the only way to get past the obstacle they create. [12:21] DaemonFC I have to get used to the Buick again. [12:21] DaemonFC I managed to make the brakes so touchy that they stop the car really fast. Faster than what I'm used to in the Impala. [12:22] DaemonFC Oh well. At least if someone darts out in front of the car, I might be able to stop in time. [12:22] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:22] DaemonFC I live in one o "those" neighborhoods. [12:22] DaemonFC It's cheap because it's the ghetto. [12:22] DaemonFC And for some reason, there's a lot of bums that have never heard of sidewalks. [12:23] DaemonFC And they'll go out walking at night. [12:26] TR News Texan cops are far too beautiful to interfere in a gun battle [12:27] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@229u6zxe8wdd2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:29] matey hi [12:29] matey when is the digdeeper chat most active? [12:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi [12:30] matey my clock says 11:29, i think thats utc. knowing the time in utc is probably most useful [12:31] matey SomeH4x0r ^ [12:31] matey as youre probably just auto-joining [12:36] SomeH4x0r no idea, will ask him [12:37] SomeH4x0r but he is in Poland [12:38] DaemonFC I think that would be GMT -1 wouldn't it? [12:38] DaemonFC Illinois is -6. [12:39] matey no, no need to ask [12:39] SomeH4x0r matey: 14:38:55 - digdeeper: most people are europeans [12:39] matey oh you already did [12:39] SomeH4x0r 14:39:04 - digdeeper: so european morning hours [12:39] SomeH4x0r 14:39:07 - digdeeper: I guess [12:39] matey that makes sense [12:39] SomeH4x0r I did, though I didn't mention your nickname [12:39] SomeH4x0r 14:39:33 - digdeeper: I don't see a lot of posts during european "night" [12:39] SomeH4x0r 14:39:47 - digdeeper: Usually when I come back there are only a few posts [12:40] DaemonFC matey: 14:38:55 - digdeeper: most people are europeans [12:40] SomeH4x0r 14:39:48 - digdeeper: during the night [12:40] DaemonFC Broadly speaking. [12:40] DaemonFC If you did run a DNA test on me, I've got a hell of a lot more Native American than Senator Pocahontas. [12:40] DaemonFC I can tell you that much. [12:40] matey im going in with low expectations, but there are at least a couple important things we must agree on [12:40] matey must as in-- im sure of it [12:41] SomeH4x0r 14:40:43 - digdeeper: the balance has shifted, there used to be more americans that have mostly ran away [12:41] SomeH4x0r 14:40:58 - digdeeper: rainheaven, Elda, Tom and Baobab [the members from the past] all disappeared [12:41] matey not too surpriing [12:42] SomeH4x0r 14:42:22 - digdeeper: the european evening is also pretty active, that is when people have already come back from school or work [12:45] SomeH4x0r 14:45:33 - digdeeper: also the imam comes at the european evening :D [12:46] SomeH4x0r idk what it means [12:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [12:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [12:51] matey does it show me entering and leaving #stardust? [12:52] matey i know, ill use the webchat to confirm [12:54] matey maybe i wont [12:54] matey is the webchat down or something? [12:54] matey it keeps redirecting to the page that says "or use the webchat" [12:54] matey as far as i can tell, this is new [12:54] matey i should already be there, but i cant actually tell [12:54] matey and i was going to use the webchat to confirm it [12:55] matey it isnt just the webchat being weird, im having issues with both the standard channel as well as the webchat [12:56] matey issues ive never had previously with either [12:56] matey which is why i ask if something is down [12:56] matey but i think im connected to one of them. maybe [12:57] matey *** Got ident response [12:57] matey but i cant tell if ive joined the channel [12:57] matey thats unusual [12:57] matey i told it to go to #stardust [12:58] SomeH4x0r it does [12:58] matey what does? [12:58] SomeH4x0r I seen you joining #stardust [12:58] matey hmm [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● May 29 [13:00] matey im using whois to confirm that im connected [13:00] matey but i get no response from the command [13:00] matey again, thats unusual [13:00] matey its like connecting to /dev/null [13:00] SomeH4x0r webchat should now work [13:01] matey yes [13:01] matey what was the story with it [13:01] SomeH4x0r for some reason Apache glitches and needs to be reloaded [13:01] TR News [Meme] Unitary and Harmonised Injustice | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/kangaroo-courts-upc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/kangaroo-courts-upc/ [13:01] TR Bot [Meme] Unitary and Harmonised Injustice | Techrights [13:02] matey yeah i believe it [13:02] SomeH4x0r try connecting to the other server https://stardust.cx/?a=servers [13:02] TR Bot StardustNetwork - Servers [13:03] matey :) okay its my fault, i figured it out [13:03] matey not the webchat part of course [13:03] matey /me fixes it [13:06] TR News PulseAudio 16.0 Released with Bluetooth Battery Level Reporting Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165376 [13:06] TR Bot PulseAudio 16.0 Released with Bluetooth Battery Level Reporting | Tux Machines [13:07] TR News Another roundup of the past weeks lies (or responses to the lies) from Team UPC; it has become rather absurd and to make matters worse Antnio Campinos is posting similar lies (and advocacy of unlawful agenda) in the EPOs official Web site http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/gallery-of-patent-law-firms-that-still-lie-still-promote-illegal-agenda-and-casually-game-the-media-to-mischievously-shape-perceptions/ [13:07] TR Bot Gallery of Patent Law Firms That Still Lie, Still Promote Illegal Agenda, and Casually Game the Media to Mischievously Shape Perceptions | Techrights [13:09] TR News Time to review the phone that I helped make! gemini://idiomdrottning.org/mudita-pure [13:09] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [13:11] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:13] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1530694058007478275 [13:13] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Watch this for more of an understanding as to what happens in Russia when they hear appeasers who call on Ukraine to cede territory to Russia for the sake of an imaginary peace. Spoiler: they grow emboldened and want even morefrom both Ukraine & the West." | nitter [13:17] *bnchs (~bnchs@wj9vtxvnpnq82.irc) has joined #techrights [13:19] XRevan86 Such might. Almost the whole force is focused on Sieverodonetsk right now, and has it been taken yet? That would be a no. [13:21] DaemonFC Yeah, I can only imagine how badly the Russians are doing if the US is concerned that we're almost to the minimum acceptable level of stingers and javelin systems. [13:21] DaemonFC Of course, who better to use them on? [13:22] DaemonFC Those Stinger systems have to be replaced every 15 years or so anyway because of the non-serviceable battery if nothing else. [13:22] DaemonFC So ideally you give Ukraine the stuff that is expiring first so they can go ahead and blow up a bunch of Russians with it now and we can refill on stuff that's good for a while. [13:22] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [13:23] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/29/mediazona-employee-of-russian-defence-ministrys-press-service-killed-in-ukraine-news "Employee of Russian Defence Ministrys press service killed in Ukraine" [13:23] TR Bot . [13:24] DaemonFC It would have cost us about as much either way. [13:24] DaemonFC Might as well blow up a bunch of Russian equipment so they can't use it on anyone. [13:24] DaemonFC Plus we now know how well our defensive weapons work on their stuff. Pretty well, actually. Even the latest stuff. [13:26] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I wonder how resilient the latest addition to the heavy vehicle arsenal to the Javelin's and such is: T-62's. [13:27] XRevan86 Reports indicate they'll be given to the "DPR" forces. [13:28] XRevan86 Considering how they trained and used the mobilised soldiers, this might just be an improvement for them. [13:34] DaemonFC It doesn't seem like Russia has any armored vehicles that hold up well against the Javelin. [13:34] DaemonFC They sent on tanks that use their most advanced armor and the Javelin made short work of those. [13:35] DaemonFC But it seems a lot of the Russian stuff is obsolete, and even when Ukraine is using some stuff that old, it had the design flaws fixed, and Russia's haven't had similar retrofits. [13:35] DaemonFC Lots of corruption in the Russian military seems to have taken its toll. [13:36] DaemonFC Their stuff wasn't even up to fighting in Ukraine even when the US has been hesitant to give Ukraine heavier weapons. [13:37] DaemonFC The US is just now starting to approve medium range missile systems. [13:37] DaemonFC I don't know what those will be exactly. Maybe the Patriot missile system? [13:49] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:51] XRevan86 https://metacpan.org/release/RJBS/perl-5.36.0/view/pod/perldelta.pod#use-v5.36 I can't believe they actually enabled "signatures". [13:51] TR Bot - what is new for perl v5.36.0 - metacpan.org ● May 29 [14:12] MinceR 29 125030 < matey> the first world runs entirely on bullshit [14:12] MinceR somehow the second world manages to run even more on bullshit [14:24] matey mincer: the second world is run by the first world [14:24] matey india is run by microsoft [14:24] matey so youre not wrong, and thats how [14:25] MinceR russia is not run by the USA [14:26] MinceR and putler's brand of bullshit is something special [14:26] MinceR OTOH the USA was run by terrorussia for 4 years, when the Moscovian Candidate was the president [14:28] XRevan86 matey: "The Second World" is a designation for the USSR and its bloc. [14:32] schestowitz_TR2 ukraine snubbbed putin [14:32] schestowitz_TR2 so he bloc'ced ukraine [14:32] schestowitz_TR2 "bloc user" [14:32] MinceR putler's been dreaming of recapturing the entire easter bloc earlier than that [14:33] schestowitz_TR2 he should take easter island [14:33] MinceR he should take polonium [14:33] schestowitz_TR2 estern polonium [14:33] schestowitz_TR2 *Eastern [14:34] MinceR or novichok, instead of "novorossiya" [14:34] schestowitz_TR2 2024 insurrectionist elected [14:34] schestowitz_TR2 hands over alaska to putin [14:34] schestowitz_TR2 putin takes hungary [14:34] MinceR or just joins the russian federation [14:34] schestowitz_TR2 making alaska "great again" [14:34] MinceR and on cue, the gypsy king joins hungary to it too [14:35] schestowitz_TR2 ttrump lost his marbles when he found out finland wants to secede from russia [14:35] schestowitz_TR2 the nerve of those finns ! [14:36] schestowitz_TR2 car ride from alaska to hungary, no assport stops needed [14:36] schestowitz_TR2 just drive on ice [14:37] schestowitz https://www.downtoearth.org.in/video/climate-change/why-are-polar-bears-migrating-to-russia-from-alaska--81756 [14:37] TR Bot Why are polar bears migrating to Russia from Alaska? [14:37] MinceR just make sure you get a car made outside the new russian empire [14:37] MinceR otherwise it will just break down a fraction of the way [14:38] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait [14:38] TR Bot Bering Strait - Wikipedia [14:40] schestowitz_TR2 "Since 2012, the Russian coast of the Bering Strait has been a closed military zone." [14:41] schestowitz_TR2 "It is 53 miles (85 km) wide, and at its deepest point is only 90 m (300 ft) in depth." [14:50] TR News The Travesty of the Web as a Disinformation Machine of Patent Litigation Maximalists | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/team-upc-gets-media-played/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/team-upc-gets-media-played/ [14:50] TR Bot The Travesty of the Web as a Disinformation Machine of Patent Litigation Maximalists | Techrights [14:50] *activelow (~activelow@pa58mtxm8bjpq.irc) has joined #techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● May 29 [15:08] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:15] *bnchs (~bnchs@a8rcmihuwieri.irc) has joined #techrights [15:19] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:21] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [15:25] *bnchs (~bnchs@bjckeed7fe7s6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi [15:33] TR News [Meme] Illegally Forcing Unification in Europe | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/upc-as-invasion-or-occupation/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/upc-as-invasion-or-occupation/ [15:33] TR Bot [Meme] Illegally Forcing Unification in Europe | Techrights [15:40] TR News Dont miss the jaw-dropping deals on electronic gadgets Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165377 [15:40] TR Bot Dont miss the jaw-dropping deals on electronic gadgets | Tux Machines [15:40] TR News Arch Linuxs Menu-Based Installer Gets New Disk Preview, FIDO2 Support, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165378 [15:40] TR Bot Arch Linuxs Menu-Based Installer Gets New Disk Preview, FIDO2 Support, and More | Tux Machines [15:40] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165379 [15:40] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [15:42] TR News "They could be known, or go unnoticed for eternity. Sometimes we are communicating to the nearest and known object, which is creating a galaxy neighborhood." gemini://szczezuja.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-29-My-map-of-the-galaxy.gmi [15:44] TR News Distrobox 1.3 is out, but it got outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software, so it's not so trustworthy as a project. We need to help people get away from GitHub, maybe set up Git for them (if they don't know how).... [15:45] TR News Pull xfs updates from Dave Chinner https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=babf0bb978e3c9fce6c4eba6b744c8754fd43d8e [15:45] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [15:46] XRevan86 More traumatising news for activelw [15:46] TR News Two energy wasters https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-could-be-readying-a-super-cheap-gpu-to-tackle-nvidias-rumored-gtx-1630 we need to innovate in another direction... [15:46] TR Bot could be readying a super-cheap GPU to tackle Nvidias rumored GTX 1630 | TechRadar [15:47] XRevan86 XFS gets new things, clearly it's not as good as ext2. [15:47] TR News Phoronix is obsolete https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-Hyper-V-Linux-5.19 [15:47] TR Bot Trims Hyper-V Boot Time By Minutes For Big Azure VMs With Linux 5.19 - Phoronix [15:48] matey /me thinks xfs is a big pile of shit, has always hated it [15:48] matey i hated trisquel for going with the same default that ubuntu had, which was to use xfs [15:48] *XRevan86 thinks XFS is the most stable FS for Linux that has at least some CoW. [15:49] XRevan86 I don't recall Ubuntu ever going for XFS by default. [15:49] matey /me wonders if it wasnt xfs [15:49] matey you cant resize it smaller, right? [15:49] bnchs activelow really hates sgi [15:49] bnchs and for no good reason [15:49] XRevan86 matey: That's the big problem of XFS, yes. [15:49] matey okay thats why i hate it as a default [15:50] matey it takes up your partition and you have to move it to make room for other distros [15:50] matey its like uefi for your partition table [15:50] matey but if it wasnt default, i wouldnt care [15:50] matey because people would use it less, and those who did its their choice [15:50] matey and yes, ubuntu made it default, no other reason trisquel would [15:51] matey trisquel rarely innovates anything unless they have to remove something and replace it [15:51] XRevan86 matey: I see mentions of Trisquel using XFS for /home [15:51] matey which is fine, xcept for ubuntu as a base [15:51] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/17121827 [15:51] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/ouPouhi.jpg created on 2017-12-18 12:44:46.975159 [15:51] matey its freely licensed, so the fact that its some shit from ubuntu is irrelevant, as is good design [15:51] MinceR i hate XFS because it zeroed out a lot of my files [15:51] XRevan86 I don't see mentions of Ubuntu ever doing that, and my seldom experience with Ubuntu never-ever had any mention of XFS. [15:52] MinceR i think they fixed that in Linux since then, though [15:52] matey maybe trisquel did it first, but i still doubt it [15:52] matey they tend to follow what ubuntu does [15:52] matey for better or worse [15:52] XRevan86 matey: Don't assume, make sure. [15:52] XRevan86 matey: Which release are we even talking about? [15:52] matey well 99% sure is as sure as normal people need to be... 99% of the time [15:52] matey well they would be very old [15:53] matey i havent touched the shit in years [15:53] matey im not talking about today [15:53] XRevan86 matey: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/why-does-trisquel-still-default-xfs-home [15:53] TR Bot Why does Trisquel still default to XFS for home? | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free! [15:56] XRevan86 MinceR: They made it significantly more robust over time, and my experience has only been positive. [15:56] XRevan86 Meanwhile btrfs users still occasionally suffer. [15:56] MinceR yeah, i don't use btrfs either [15:59] activelow maybe XFS was once stable, currently i do not consider it anymore [15:59] activelow and i do not hate SGI, i reject most implementations of OpenGL [15:59] XRevan86 In activelow's terminology stable means "a codebase that doesn't change much". [15:59] XRevan86 So maybe that's true. [15:59] activelow yes, that's one criteria ● May 29 [16:00] MinceR criterion [16:00] bnchs matey: bysword is a troll [16:00] MinceR criteria is plural [16:00] bnchs ignore him [16:00] XRevan86 It's something to keep in mind, because most people by "stable" mean "the FS doesn't break easily", so there can be misunderstanding. [16:01] XRevan86 XFS used to break but it was stable, now it works well but it's unstable. [16:02] matey bnchs: already ignored him [16:02] matey hopefully he dies bysword [16:03] MinceR who's bysword? [16:03] matey bnchs is like santa claus [16:03] matey this is just one of his helpers [16:03] XRevan86 Russia has a very close relationship to the word "stable". It's never been more stable, but also [16:03] MinceR are there a lot of horses in russia? [16:04] XRevan86 Haven't kept tabs on them. [16:04] matey there are whenever the army doesnt have to eat them [16:04] activelow XRevan86: i put bcachefs on todo for review [16:04] matey if putin is around long enough there will be more horses in russia than trees [16:04] MinceR https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/a7WEb4A_700b.jpg [16:04] matey not because of an increase in horses [16:05] activelow had to migrate my IRC stuff first, just shut down irssi some minutes ago [16:05] activelow bcachefs is interesting: because it incorporates some replication/backup mechanism, it supports compression [16:06] activelow disadvantage of bcachefs: linux-only to my knowledge [16:06] XRevan86 I thought the disadvantage would be that it's still in heavy development. [16:06] XRevan86 It is cool though. [16:07] activelow among the many filesystems, ext2 (with the non-ext4 kernel module) seems the most portable one remaining [16:07] XRevan86 No, FAT32 is the most portable. [16:07] activelow if you wanted to consider FAT32 stable, then go for it [16:07] XRevan86 It's practically rock solid. [16:07] MinceR FAT32 is patent-encumbered, isn't it? [16:08] XRevan86 MinceR: I thought every single one of them expired. [16:08] XRevan86 as rock solid as mammoth poop [16:08] activelow anyway, i'll not use any of those: xfs, jfs, zfs, btrfs [16:08] MinceR maybe i'm thinking of exFAT [16:09] matey i dont think the fat patent was ever enforceable other than giving microsoft a bit of money from each drive sold [16:09] MinceR there was a shakedown exploiting a VFAT patent [16:09] MinceR and iirc it resulted in MICROS~1 malware on many android devices [16:09] matey which is all the more reason to destroy microsoft forever [16:09] matey oh wait, github is free! [16:09] matey dumb fucks [16:09] bnchs "oh god it's on github" [16:10] XRevan86 MinceR: There was some thing about the filename stuff, I don't remember if that patent is still holding. [16:10] XRevan86 But it seems that feature was stripped out anyway. [16:10] XRevan86 "MICROS~1" <- Literally that. [16:11] matey INNOVA~1 [16:13] matey "Mozilla's new addon blocking process literally starts with a section called Security Over Choice, which was not in the old one. So, they have now provided us with a direct, undeniable admission that your choice doesn't matter." systemd fanbois did the same thing [16:13] matey "islinuxaboutchoice" NO. [16:14] matey the only people ive seen pull that one are mozilla, moonchild, systemd and gnome [16:14] matey these are people who are so against user freedom that they proudly claim it doesnt exist and isnt a goal [16:14] matey and people still use their shit-- incredibly [16:16] matey 52 brings a PulseAudio requirement to play sound on Linux - even though the ALSA code is there even now, so the decision was made entirely to remove user choice. <- systemdzilla [16:17] matey im familiar with most of this so far [16:17] matey but i havent found a more comprehensive rundown anywhere [16:18] matey Yes, you saw it right! There is no way to disable auto-updates since version 63! <- software that updates itself without the option not to isnt free [16:18] matey its just a backdoor [16:18] matey i hope whoever implemented that dies [16:18] matey painfully [16:18] matey wrong chat, but equally applicaable here [16:22] XRevan86 https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.dev.platform/c/jRAqSTri66I [16:22] TR Bot Rationalising Linux audio backend support [16:22] XRevan86 > The most problematic backend across all platforms is ALSA. It is also missing full duplex support. We are intending to add multichannel (5.1) support across all platforms and the ones that dont make the cut will be the ALSA backend [16:22] XRevan86 > Our ALSA backend has fallen behind in features, it is buggy and difficult to fix. [16:24] matey /me doesnt use alsa [16:24] activelow ALSA wasn't buggy, and it didn't miss any features [16:25] activelow still using it, and used it with seamonkey for many years [16:25] XRevan86 "Our ALSA backend" == ALSA? [16:26] activelow and, 5.1 is technical nonsense [16:26] *Red_ (~Red@freenode-vq3.aj5.jaj210.IP) has joined #techrights [16:27] XRevan86 Is full duplex technical nonsense? [16:27] activelow full duplex what? ethernet? no. [16:27] XRevan86 It is ironic when pure ALSA is the way to get sound latency. [16:27] activelow ALSA buffers can be configured for minimal latency [16:28] matey whats so fucking difficult about letting users enable alsa in about:config and saying "we dont support this. too buggy" [16:28] activelow asoundrc configuration isn't trivial [16:29] matey i hope thats a fucking bird because if its not im never going outside again [16:29] *Redfoxmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:29] matey /me has somehow been transported to florida [16:30] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIJdcmbym-c [16:30] TR Bot https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=aIJdcmbym-c [16:30] TR Bot inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Fastest meowing cat ever came to me as soon as she heard my voice - Invidious [16:30] activelow migrated everything onto linux framebuffer console, with yaft+dvtm bundled into my dmux desktop environment [16:31] MinceR so, basically what mozilla is trying to tell us that ALSA can't do certain things, but poetteringaudio can do those things while using ALSA as its output API [16:31] MinceR sounds very credible, mozilla. [16:31] activelow side-effect of this, most of the bullshit problems in the realm of moz/systemd/gnu aren't any concern anymore [16:31] XRevan86 MinceR: API [16:31] MinceR it's "modern" to tell lies all the time [16:31] activelow instead, i can focus on hacking and programming, which is fun [16:34] matey it's "modern" to tell lies all the time <- progressive, even! [16:34] matey like lieplanet [16:35] matey they also say they care about privacy, then send your data to google with invisible captcha and even use clear gifs, after disabling "turn off images" in dialog saying it broke websites [16:39] XRevan86 MinceR: From a programme's perspective PulseAudio and ALSA are very different. [16:40] XRevan86 Maybe they could have figured something out, but is the game worth the candle? [16:40] MinceR poetteringaudio is magic [16:41] activelow PulseAudio is an ALSA frontend, not sure what pulseaudio is good for [16:41] XRevan86 It's also going obsolete. [16:41] activelow if a software mixer was required, then dmix existed with ALSA [16:41] activelow then besides pulseaudio, jack-audio existed (jack1 was written in C, jack2 is written in c++) [16:42] MinceR it's good for introducing skips into your audio output [16:42] XRevan86 And couldn't even resample. [16:42] MinceR and wasting resources [16:42] MinceR and dropping random files all over your filesystem [16:42] MinceR presumably the skipping is where the "pulse" comes from [16:42] activelow i won't consider any of those anymore: jack2, pulseaudio [16:42] XRevan86 MinceR: I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as skips, is in fact, underruns/overruns, or as I've recently taken to calling it, xruns. [16:42] MinceR :> [16:43] activelow if jack2 didn't require c++, and jack1 is deprecated [16:43] XRevan86 activelow: Are ye seriously considering JACK for everyday use? [16:44] activelow XRevan86: jack is almost equivalent to pulseaudio, and jack was the better choice [16:44] activelow and i don't use jack anymore, because jack2/c++ [16:44] XRevan86 Where "almost equivalent" means "has a completely different use-case". [16:45] matey :> [16:46] *activelow got a mild cold [16:47] activelow maybe i got another few hours to review bcachefs today [16:47] XRevan86 activelow: "and jack was the better choice" <- I'm sure ye never actually used either. [16:47] XRevan86 Otherwise ye would've known how silly this sounds. [16:47] activelow XRevan86: i tested alsa/jackd/fluidsynth with a MIDI keyboard while ago [16:48] activelow and noticed, jackd is redundant for the use-case i tested [16:48] activelow jackd is required to dynamically change configuration of an audio setup (re-plugging audio-channels) [16:48] XRevan86 activelow: Recommend me a patchbay for pure ALSA. [16:48] activelow i didn't need this, and configured midi channel plugging directly with alsa [16:49] activelow XRevan86: shell script [16:49] activelow anyway, meanwhile i removed fluidsynth too, because it depends on GNU Glib, and i do not accept GNU Glib anymore [16:49] activelow what remains is timidity++ to fiddle with MIDI [16:49] activelow got no time currently [16:49] XRevan86 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/rncbc/qpwgraph/-/raw/v0.3.1/src/images/qpwgraph_screenshot-1.png [16:49] XRevan86 So this looks like something doable in ALSA? [16:51] activelow XRevan86: jackd does use ALSA, jackd (and pulseaudio) are a frontend for ALSA [16:52] activelow although, i do not know what this screenshot shall demonstrate, to do with ALSA or jackd or pulseaudio [16:52] XRevan86 I noticed I forgot to write "pure ALSA" but decided no one would nitpick in the context. [16:53] activelow the difference between ALSA and jackd frontend is this, dynamic-configurations are easier to accomplish with jackd to re-plug channels and their configuration [16:53] XRevan86 activelow: It's an input/output graph, where the ins and outs can be manually redirected. [16:53] activelow with ALSA i can write an asoundr, and not alter this once configured [16:54] XRevan86 activelow: So pure ALSA can distinguish individual channels? [16:54] activelow and then alsa got some utilities to plug varios channels [16:54] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [16:54] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [16:55] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@3epy783jsvpvq.irc) has joined #techrights [16:55] TR News Video: Antonio F Campinos in His Very Own Words | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/antonio-f-campinos-talks/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/antonio-f-campinos-talks/ [16:55] TR Bot Video: Antonio F Campinos in His Very Own Words | Techrights [16:55] activelow XRevan86: besides, recently i removed LADSAP, it had some undesireable dependencies again, c++ or something else, don't remember [16:56] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@k86dad7ibinds.irc) has joined #techrights [16:56] activelow otherwise, for testing i plugged into an LADSPA equalizer and resampler with my asoundrc, and it worked as it should [16:56] XRevan86 On the whole sink? [16:57] activelow which source? which sink? [16:58] activelow one stereo channel -> resampled -> ladspa -> out [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [16:59] activelow anyway, asoundrc alone isn't suitable for complicated audio-channel management ● May 29 [17:00] matey /me doesnt even know what pure alsa is [17:00] XRevan86 activelow: Imagine being able to apply audio filters only for one programme's sound. [17:00] XRevan86 matey: libasound [17:01] XRevan86 No sound daemons, just libasound kernel's ALSA [17:01] activelow XRevan86: i can configured as many (virtual) pcm devices with a custom processing chain as i wanted [17:01] activelow that's not the problem with asoundrc, problem is to re-plug and change channels and processing chains dynamically [17:02] activelow which is, what jack2 can do, which i cannot with asoundrc alone [17:02] activelow however, gladly, i do not need that [17:03] TR News Slashdot CONTINUES to ATTACK Linux... in its LINUX section https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/05/28/2243237/new-linux-based-ransomware-targets-vmware-servers WTH? Slashdot is a FUD machine http://techrights.org/2022/05/28/slashdot-linux-section/ [17:03] TR Bot New Linux-Based Ransomware Targets VMware Servers - Slashdot [17:03] TR Bot When 50% of Slashdots Linux Section is Microsoft Marketing, EEE, and FUD | Techrights [17:03] *activelow continues bcachefs review [17:03] activelow ttyl [17:03] matey libasound is still alsa though? [17:04] MinceR iirc you can create virtual devices in pure ALSA, at least with dmix [17:04] XRevan86 matey: There are caveats, i.e. there are plug-ins that make libasound redirect output into whatever one desires. [17:05] matey that sounds like a worthwhile feature, at least in theory [17:05] XRevan86 Well, yea, it's simple enough that this works. [17:06] XRevan86 matey: The caveat is that libasound doesn't mean "pure ALSA" on its own, it should also actually pipe sound into ALSA directly for that to be true. [17:07] XRevan86 Although in context of Firefox it doesn't matter for instance, there "pure ALSA" means "libasound". [17:07] XRevan86 It doesn't matter where the sound goes to, it's the API they have a problem with. [17:09] TR News Microsoft Phoronix [17:10] activelow this was a quick review, bcachefs won't be it... libudev, libzstd, liblz4 (cmake)... no. [17:11] matey prominent Linux kernel developer Theodore Tso expressed his opinion that the dispute over systemds centralized design philosophy, more than technical concerns, indicates a dangerous general trend toward uniformizing the Linux ecosystem, alienating and marginalizing parts of the open-source community, and leaving little room for alternative projects [17:11] matey and we have gkh instead, a novell person [17:11] MinceR there are many problems with systemd's philosophy and politics [17:12] matey and linus has no real say in the future [17:12] matey and we move away from tso and towards gkh [17:12] matey you know [17:12] XRevan86 "libzstd, liblz4 (cmake)" <- This guy wants FS compression, but doesn't want compression software. [17:12] matey libzstd <- this is facebook or google [17:12] matey i think brotli is google [17:12] matey i think zstd is facebook [17:12] matey either way its github and part of wget [17:13] matey liblz4 <- this one might be okay [17:13] matey xz is a huge disappointment [17:13] XRevan86 matey: Both are good quick compression algorithms. [17:13] matey its nearly lossy [17:13] XRevan86 activelow expects gzip? [17:13] matey Both are good quick compression algorithms <- the algorithm doesnt enter into it [17:13] matey mirror it on something gnu controls, and stop relying on the good will of microsoft [17:13] XRevan86 matey: For on-the-fly compression it's *crucial*. [17:14] matey it doesnt belong in wget [17:14] matey algorithms can be mirrored [17:14] TR News Lukashenko's business partners Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos want to take the law into their own hands, with criminals from Microsoft as business partners http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/kangaroo-courts-upc/ [17:14] TR Bot [Meme] Unitary and Harmonised Injustice | Techrights [17:14] activelow XRevan86: liblz4 required CMake to build it which i do not have without c++ [17:14] matey on gnu-controlled infrastructure [17:14] TR News With journalism waning if not dying perhaps we should expect lobbyists and PR agencies to fill the vacuum; in the domain of patents were seeing the worst elements stealing the narrative and pushing illegal proposals without any parliamentary debates http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/team-upc-gets-media-played/ [17:14] TR Bot The Travesty of the Web as a Disinformation Machine of Patent Litigation Maximalists | Techrights [17:14] matey not microsoft juggernauts [17:14] activelow i could hack bcachefs-tools build system to remove lz4/zstd/libudev... [17:14] matey youd think gnu understood this [17:15] matey but gnu is a farce [17:15] TR News Do not be misled by words like unified or unitary (or united, unity, harmony etc.); what the EPO and Team UPC (law firms pushing the dead and legally invalid UPC proposal) strive to do isnt just illegal for at least a handful of different and solid reasons, it is also unconstitutional in many nations http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/upc-as-invasion-or-occupation/ [17:15] TR Bot [Meme] Illegally Forcing Unification in Europe | Techrights [17:15] activelow yet there is other problems with bcachefs... it is implemented for linux-kernel only [17:15] TR News A year-old video of the EPOs kakistocrat in chief shows potentially offensive language difficulties (the videos are unaltered; must be seen to be believed!) http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/antonio-f-campinos-talks/ [17:15] TR Bot Video: Antonio F Campinos in His Very Own Words | Techrights [17:15] activelow and i am not sure i would want to place all my bets on linux-kernel [17:15] XRevan86 matey: I don't disagree, but so much stuff is hosted on GitHub I don't know if it's even possible to filter software on that criterion. [17:16] MinceR 29 181347 < matey> mirror it on something gnu controls, and stop relying on the good will of microsoft [17:16] MinceR better yet, mirror it on something _you_ control [17:16] XRevan86 "yet there is other problems with bcachefs... it is implemented for linux-kernel only" <- It's new and it's a feature-oriented FS. [17:17] matey better yet, mirror it on something _you_ control <- sure, but i dont expect the gnu project to trust my mirror [17:17] XRevan86 The desire for FS compression and the desire for high portability are practically mutually exclusive. [17:17] matey but i get your point. make my own binaries or something [17:18] XRevan86 Genuine portable FS' are not even a thing, the ports will always be that, ports. [17:18] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:19] XRevan86 Even with FAT32, which everything supports, it will always be obvious that it's a DOS FS at heart. [17:19] matey gnu should at a minimum, set a good example for free software [17:20] matey if it cant do that, they might as well pull the plug [17:20] matey if its going to be another microsoft product, better that it simply die with honour, than go out as a slave [17:20] matey the fsf has chosen the latter already [17:20] matey gnu will (does) follow [17:21] matey microsoft gnu will not inspire better, not compared to what gnu was when it wasnt a joke [17:21] matey and ibm (increasingly) controls gcc, though i dont think llvm is better [17:21] matey i like the idea that you can actually compile gcc [17:22] matey gcc should be mirrored, and red hat can go fuck itself [17:22] matey there is a gcc mirror on sr.ht or something [17:22] activelow with ext2 i fear filesystem corruption with sudden power-loss, if ext2 isn't mounted -o sync [17:23] activelow and -o sync mount, is probably slow [17:23] activelow another problem, was loopdev which i kept with a crypto-transform, and loopdev has some performance regression too [17:24] XRevan86 activelow: Can't have both a stable (i.e. dead codebase) FS and a stable (i.e. reliable) FS at the same time. [17:24] MinceR my point was more a question of how much you can trust gnu [17:24] activelow XRevan86: what's wrong with ext2? [17:25] MinceR wasn't the ext2 driver retired already? [17:26] XRevan86 MinceR: It was, but activelow uses an old kernel anyway. [17:26] activelow the original ext2 implementation is still there inside kernel, and if it doesn't contain bugs, then why change the sources? [17:26] activelow kernel 5.10 isn't old [17:26] activelow it is the current lTS [17:26] activelow LTS [17:26] MinceR it might contain bugs, and those bugs are unlikely to be found or fixed [17:27] activelow ext2 was tested for 20years now [17:27] activelow although i wouldn't want the ext4 driver, i'll keep it at ext2; not decided yet what i will do [17:28] activelow because i do need/want some replication/backup/raid-1, and compression and/or encryption [17:28] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@wvtc3dy5nu54u.irc) has joined #techrights [17:28] XRevan86 activelow: ext4 has better journaling than ext3, and simply has journaling compared to ext2. [17:29] matey my point was more a question of how much you can trust gnu <- you cant trust a doormat who stands for nothing [17:29] matey i tell people to be careful of pushovers [17:29] matey because pushovers only bring worse people into yourlife [17:30] matey those better be birds [17:30] matey if you read a story about a guy being carried off by giant insects [17:30] matey and you dont see me here [17:30] matey youll know what happened [17:30] MinceR :> [17:30] matey wtf [17:30] XRevan86 activelow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Features just read that but look at it not as ext4 features but ext2's lack of features. [17:30] TR Bot ext4 - Wikipedia [17:31] activelow ext4 requires the in-kernel crypto-api, which i want to wipe [17:31] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:31] XRevan86 ext4 can be encrypted, yes. [17:31] activelow and although ext4 introduced features, it didn't implement those i really wanted: compression, and hashing _all_ data and metadata [17:31] activelow ext4 only supports crc32 for metadata iirc [17:32] XRevan86 How about the "don't break on the 32000 subdirectory" feature? [17:32] matey thats a good one [17:32] activelow wasn't aware of any limitation with subdirectories [17:32] activelow not yet [17:33] matey at the moment im not worried about reaching a 32000 subdirectory limit [17:33] matey though it seems a pretty conservative limit for enough uses that i wouldnt set it there [17:33] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@e38kzwsbvddm6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:36] XRevan86 > An extent is a range of contiguous physical blocks, improving large-file performance and reducing fragmentation. [17:36] XRevan86 > Delayed allocation improves performance and reduces fragmentation [17:36] XRevan86 > ext4 uses checksums in the journal [and metadata] to improve reliability, since the journal is one of the most used files of the disk. This feature has a side benefit: it can safely avoid a disk I/O wait during journaling, improving performance slightly. [17:36] XRevan86 > ext4 enables write barriers by default. It ensures that file system metadata is correctly written and ordered on disk, even when write caches lose power. [17:37] XRevan86 Also ext2 can't be grown when mounted. [17:38] TR News When You Piss Off Your Core Audience | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/phoronix-audience/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/phoronix-audience/ [17:38] TR Bot When You Piss Off Your Core Audience | Techrights [17:38] activelow if i wanted checksums, i chose nilfs2; ext4 does checksum on metadata only [17:38] activelow with nilfs2 i encountered some other minor issues [17:39] activelow the benefit of ext2: it is implemented for almost all operating systems including *bsd, windows etc... just in case [17:39] activelow i won't hit any filesystem size limit with ext2 [17:40] activelow question will be, how fast ext2 is when mounted -o sync [17:40] activelow and i had wanted the e2compr patch, which doesn't apply anymore, thanks to changes of in-kernel filesystem APIs [17:41] activelow re-implementing this, and TESTING, that's not the easiest task [17:44] activelow linux MD-RAID too is, linux specific [17:45] activelow the loopdev crypto-transformation of mine, is relatively easy to implement [17:45] activelow including a user-space crypto-pipe, in case of emergency, and if linux kernel was dropped [17:46] TR News Fake security put in the kernel https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/security/secrets/coco.rst?id=bf2431021c8cfe52c866d7bf640ced03a35ebe91 [17:46] TR Bot coco.rst secrets security Documentation - kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [17:47] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22052740 [17:47] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/lgo7x672cn191.png created on 2022-05-27 14:55:06.541745 [17:47] activelow with ext2 i am hitting another problem: missing RENAME_WHITEOUT feature, meaning i cannot use this with overlayfs [17:48] activelow and the root.squashfs+overlayfs with ext4 was both practical and had some security benefits [17:49] activelow if i drop linux md-raid, i cannot use md-raid for online backup/recovery anymore, and would need to dd disk images [17:50] activelow i must reduce the amount of data in any case, currently gentoo distfiles is flooding 1TB on MD-RAID [17:51] TR News 4MLinux 39.1 released. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165380 [17:51] TR Bot 4MLinux 39.1 released. | Tux Machines [17:51] activelow that's too much, and expensive, because an MD-RAID backup/archive/recovery strategy requiresat least three disks of the size of 1TB [17:53] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights ● May 29 [18:09] TR News "Valve has released a few days ago a new update for the Steam Deck, SteamOS 3.2. One of the main improvements is around Refresh Rates." https://boilingsteam.com/steamos-3-2-introduces-flexible-refresh-rates-for-the-steam-deck/ [18:09] TR Bot SteamOS 3.2 Introduces Flexible Refresh Rates for the Steam Deck - Boiling Steam [18:10] activelow bcachefs-tools contain rust... gone. [18:12] TR News Phoronix gets "gifts" to review https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ChromeOS-EC-Framework-Laptop [18:12] TR Bot Laptop Gets ChromeOS EC Driver Support In Linux 5.19 - Phoronix [18:14] TR News With a total of 5 comments today (a lot less than it used to be), as shown above, maybe its time to better understand that sponsored coverage and Microsoft news isnt what people typically came to the site for http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/phoronix-audience/ [18:18] matey Also ext2 can't be grown when mounted. <- ext3 can? [18:19] XRevan86 matey: yes [18:20] activelow don't know yet, if the old ext2 kernel-driver got journaling [18:20] activelow re-thinking e2compr, that's not desireable too, because not portable [18:21] XRevan86 ext2 not having journaling also puts me in doubt over whether the old ext2 kernel-driver has journaling. [18:22] matey cool [18:22] matey btw if you bite into a chickpea and it breaks in half [18:23] matey its probably a cardamom pod [18:23] matey as i recntly discovered [18:23] MinceR :> [18:24] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2205276 [18:24] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/z0f83d0ogn191.jpg created on 2022-05-27 02:22:51.936442 [18:25] activelow i do not need journaling if, if a sudden power-loss doesn't push the filesystem into an inconsistent state [18:26] activelow currently on the list remaining are: ext2/(3) and nilfs2 [18:27] matey also if you bite into a chickpea and its 3 inches long, red and full of seeds [18:27] matey hold onto your anus because it could get away from you [18:27] activelow the nilfs2-utilities contain a bug somewhere, when used as aarch32 binaries on top of an aarch64 kernel, which is what i couldn't repair yet with nilfs2 [18:28] activelow and nilfs2 has one disadvantage over ext2: there is only some rudimentary read-only implementation with NetBSD for it [18:28] activelow instead, ext2 is implemented with all *bsd, and windows too [18:29] MinceR if you bite into a chickpea and it's torus-shaped, made of metal, is connected to a pin, and you just pulled the pin out of a grenade, it's not a chickpea [18:29] matey close enough [18:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi [18:30] matey theres a guy on youtube who puts grenades in safes and pulls the pin out with a long string [18:30] matey i guess he got bored with shooting bottles and tin cans [18:35] matey /me points points points [18:39] MinceR :) [18:42] XRevan86 Meanwhile British tabloids are spreading rumours of Putin's death. [18:43] XRevan86 For some strange reason no respectable agency picked that story up. [18:44] matey also he was born with bat ears [18:44] matey you can still see where they modified them [18:44] matey he never smiles because his canines are unusually long [18:45] XRevan86 matey: The Ukrainian bioengineers designed COVID-19 to assassinate Putin, that's why it spreads in bats & humans. [18:45] XRevan86 (disclaimer: it's a joke) [18:46] matey (see if that stops me from running with it) [18:46] XRevan86 (:D) [18:48] XRevan86 matey: Also he does smile. [18:49] XRevan86 his humour is also quite something. [18:52] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/aimnhejkr2s this will do [18:52] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=aimnhejkr2s [18:52] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | Vladimir Putin jokes about a stroke survivor being drunk - Daily Mail - Invidious [18:52] matey matey: Also he does smile. <- isnt it more of an evil grin though? [18:56] XRevan86 matey: I can't tell. [18:57] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:58] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/251681 [18:58] TR Bot Single mom denounced by neighbor, fined for anti-war drawings [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [18:59] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/29/7349227/ While Russia is trying to take Sieverodonetsk, Ukraine is conducting a counter-offensive in the Kherson region. [18:59] TR Bot Near Kherson, Ukrainian defenders chase and burn Russian vehicles using artillery | Ukrayinska Pravda ● May 29 [19:00] XRevan86 The way I see it, that had to have happened simply because Russia is pushing its everything onto Sieverodonetsk, so the rest should be thinned. [19:01] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22052660 [19:01] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/exwahc426q191.jpg created on 2022-05-26 20:36:21.915420 [19:01] XRevan86 But that's layman judgement, I don't understand military stuff. [19:02] XRevan86 I know MinceR is already writing "so don't the Russian army commanders" :) [19:02] MinceR dunno about that, maybe the stupid decisions come from further above [19:03] XRevan86 MinceR: They just had to slap the CNN logo onto that. [19:04] XRevan86 Fake News! [19:07] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:07] TR News 12 Best Free and Open Source Linux PDF Viewers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165381 [19:07] TR Bot 12 Best Free and Open Source Linux PDF Viewers | Tux Machines [19:08] TR News Khadas VIM4 SBC review - Part 3: Ubuntu 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165382 [19:08] TR Bot Khadas VIM4 SBC review - Part 3: Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines [19:08] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165383 [19:08] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:12] AdmFubar https://www.crn.nz/news/chorus-shows-off-25-gigabit-per-second-retail-fibre-broadband-580604 [19:12] TR Bot Chorus shows off 25 gigabit per second retail fibre broadband - Service Providers - CRN NZ [19:15] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@phgdj3exxtdc4.irc) has joined #techrights [19:18] TR News inttf-kernel - Clear Linux kernel for Fedora 36 users - If Not True Then False https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2022/inttf-kernel/ Source: if-not-true-then-false [19:18] TR Bot inttf-kernel Clear Linux kernel for Fedora 36 users If Not True Then False [19:19] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ax7qs2q3ckkci.irc) has joined #techrights [19:22] DaemonFC Well, Ext2 is very old and basically on life support at this point. [19:23] DaemonFC There aren't going to be new features, and it's going to hit the 32-bit signed time problem here soon. [19:25] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165384 [19:26] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:26] TR News Kernel: Linux Plumbers Conference 2022, Clear Linux Patches, RCU, and oneAPI Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165385 [19:26] TR Bot Kernel: Linux Plumbers Conference 2022, Clear Linux Patches, RCU, and oneAPI | Tux Machines [19:27] DaemonFC BtrFS is obviously where Linux is heading as far as a "de facto" file system default. [19:28] DaemonFC Unlike Canonical's other blunders, ZFS won't be easy for their customers to migrate away from.. [19:28] activelow DaemonFC: didn't kernel migrate to 64bit timestamps? [19:28] DaemonFC Yes, but I don't believe that Ext2 is included in that. [19:29] DaemonFC In Ext4, it requires that the file system be of the 64-bit variant, which I believe can only be done at creation time, and I think the 32-bit variant of Ext4 was dropped from e2fsprogs to make dropping it from the kernel too at some point easier to do. [19:30] activelow if ext4 was available with *BSD and windows, i would re-consider it [19:31] activelow and i remain sceptical, about feature creep with ext4, while important features are absent: compression, hashsums for metadata _and_ data [19:31] TR News "On Saturday, Dublin airport officials were in the news promising to resolve the problems at the airport. Yet on Sunday things only got worse, dramatically, airport security and police overwhelmed by a crowd." https://danielpocock.com/surviving-crowd-crush-dublin-airport/ [19:31] TR Bot Surviving a crowd crush at Dublin airport [19:31] activelow nilfs2 is the only filesystem i would trust, with regards to crc32 hashsums for data and metada [19:32] activelow metadata [19:32] activelow that's why, i implemented an fsck/hashsum-verification tool for it, nilfs2 [19:32] TR News Which Linux Mint Desktop Should I Use? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165386 [19:32] TR Bot Which Linux Mint Desktop Should I Use? | Tux Machines [19:32] TR News Building a retro handheld console with Fedora and a RPi zero Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165387 [19:32] TR Bot Building a retro handheld console with Fedora and a RPi zero | Tux Machines [19:35] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dis6PJdRQQg [19:35] TR Bot https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=dis6PJdRQQg [19:35] TR Bot invidious.osi.kr | a hostile work environment - Invidious [19:42] *techrights_guest|24 (~5f5564b0@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [19:42] *techrights_guest|24 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [19:43] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:44] activelow DaemonFC: you are right ... ext2.h: __le32 i_atime; /* Access time */ [19:45] activelow the original ext2 implementation uses 32bit timestamps, year 2038 problem [19:46] activelow maybe, it isn't too difficult, to replace __le32 with __le64 [19:47] activelow in kernel it is a no-brainer, almost, and then check the userspace utilities (the busybox ones, and coreutils for mount.ext2 etc) [19:47] XRevan86 https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7765629.html [19:47] TR Bot Boris Johnson reveals plan to bring back pounds and ounces | Daily Mail Online [19:47] MinceR changing the on-disk format can lead to painful results though [19:47] MinceR it's probably a good idea to check how it was done in ext3/4 [19:48] DaemonFC I got a Wave Music System IV. Refurbished. [19:48] activelow or, i'll switch to nilfs2 [19:49] AdmFubar ghost in the machine https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/attackers-can-use-electromagnetic-signals-to-control-touchscreens-remotely.445447/ [19:49] TR Bot Attackers Can Use Electromagnetic Signals to Control Touchscreens Remotely | Wilders Security Forums [19:49] activelow nilfs2 support is complete with linux, on NetBSD a read-only implementation exists for the sake of it [19:49] DaemonFC Well, it's a manufacturer refurb. You have to be careful that it's from the manufacturer, and not like, you know, "Best Buy be like 'refurbished'" and then you get the carpet shampooer home and there's half of someone's wet dog in it waiting for you. [19:49] DaemonFC :) [19:49] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [19:49] activelow and it is only the aarch64-kernel/aarch32-userspace bug which i would need to repair [19:50] XRevan86 Isn't it fun when a country is powerful enough that it can afford to do self-harm like continue to push their own obsolete measurement systems indefinitely? [19:51] DaemonFC I bought an antenna too from Bose. The unit will use the power cord by default for FM, but I live in an apartment that gets notoriously bad reception, and people say the $10 FM antenna lets them get FM stations for about 100 miles. [19:51] DaemonFC Isn't it fun when a country is powerful enough that it can afford to do self-harm like continue to push their own obsolete measurement systems indefinitely? [19:51] DaemonFC XRevan86, Well, Putler sent in all the old stuff first. [19:51] DaemonFC I guess he didn't have much confidence in the mission, or things in your military really are that bad. [19:52] XRevan86 He should prepare a symmetrical response and restore sazhe. [19:52] activelow ok, then nilfs2 it is, hopefully the bugfixing isn't too difficult, at least it is a userspace utility problem, easier to test/debug [19:53] DaemonFC Why not XiaFS? [19:53] DaemonFC ;) [19:53] TR News SteamOS 3.2 Introduces Flexible Refresh Rates for the Steam Deck http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165342#comment-33823 [19:53] TR Bot Games: Proton Experimental, SteamOS 3.2, and More | Tux Machines [19:53] TR News Arch Linux text-based Installer gets a new update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165388 [19:53] TR Bot Arch Linux text-based Installer gets a new update | Tux Machines [19:54] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@r8dui6smnhchc.irc) has joined #techrights [19:58] TR News Links 29/05/2022: 4MLinux 39.1, Invalidity of Some US Software Patents | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/4mlinux-39-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/4mlinux-39-1/ [19:58] TR Bot Links 29/05/2022: 4MLinux 39.1, Invalidity of Some US Software Patents | Techrights ● May 29 [20:03] TR News "more broadly, lefebvre is trying to develop a 'theory of needs' (299) that illuminates the relationship between nature and culture in everyday life." gemini://aidn.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-29.gmi [20:04] TR News "In the referenced entry, OP (me) makes a curious statement about the Raspberry Pi power usage: "Uses too much power"..." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-05-29.pi.power.gmi [20:07] TR News Historical or Cultural Bindings gemini://thurk.org/blog/557.gmi [20:13] TR News OpenMandriva: "For Rock and Rolling users OpenMandriva Community has made ISOs using the LXQt desktop." https://www.openmandriva.org/en/breve/new-lxqt-isos-for-rock-rolling [20:13] TR Bot New LXQt ISOs for Rock & Rolling - OpenMandriva [20:15] TR News Top 15 Best Google Drive Clients for Linux System in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165389 [20:15] TR Bot Top 15 Best Google Drive Clients for Linux System in 2022 | Tux Machines [20:15] TR News Lodestone is an open-source free document search engine https://medevel.com/lodestone-dms/ [20:15] TR Bot Lodestone is an open-source free document search engine [20:17] TR News Updated: today's example of Slashdot pushing anti-Linux... in the LINUX section http://techrights.org/2022/05/28/slashdot-linux-section/ [20:17] TR Bot When 50% of Slashdots Linux Section is Microsoft Marketing, EEE, and FUD (Updated) | Techrights [20:18] TR News Slashdot is run by people who don't care about GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2020/09/26/a-slashdot-run-linux-journal/ [20:18] TR Bot Why Techrights is Totally Unexcited About the New Owner of Linux Journal | Techrights [20:18] TR News Calamares Handoff Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165390 [20:18] TR Bot Calamares Handoff | Tux Machines [20:19] TR News [GIT PULL] chrome-platform changes for v5.19 - Tzung-Bi Shih https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yo7YztZklByTINZp@google.com/ Source: google [20:19] TR Bot [GIT PULL] chrome-platform changes for v5.19 - Tzung-Bi Shih [20:27] TR News "The reality at the EPO is that people behind, for instance, trade union SUEPO operate in anonymity out of fear they will be fired or will face other severe sanctions, as happened with various SUEPO leaders in the Battistelli era." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/23/dedicated-tribunal-could-help-settle-labour-disputes-at-the-european-patent-office/ [20:27] TR Bot 'Dedicated tribunal could help settle labour disputes at the European Patent Office' - Kluwer Patent Blog [20:29] TR News "I AM NOT A CROOK!!" https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2015/20150318.html [20:29] TR Bot EPO - Statement from the management: No, the EPO is not violating fundamental human rights [20:30] TR News They clearly don't understand that EPO is a rubber-stamping operation now https://www.prnewswire.com/il/news-releases/oramed-granted-nash-patent-in-europe-301517778.html [20:30] TR Bot Oramed Granted NASH Patent in Europe [20:35] TR News Software Freedom Conservancy Receives Court Ruling Affirming GPL as Both Copyright License and Contractual Agreement http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164920#comment-33824 [20:36] TR Bot Software Freedom Conservancy right-to-repair lawsuit against California TV manufacturer Vizio, Inc. remanded to California State Court | Tux Machines [20:42] DaemonFC MinceR, After activelow gets done with his xiafs-based suckless system, he can relax and know it's good. [20:42] DaemonFC Speaking of relaxing, I forgot how well that Buick rides. [20:42] DaemonFC Even with a rebuilt front end suspension, the Impala doesn't ride that well. [20:43] DaemonFC About the only part of the Impala's front end suspension that's partially original, are the CV half-shafts. [20:44] DaemonFC Those are very expensive. The boots rotted away and leaked the grease out, but the metal parts were still in decent shape, so I had the shop get one of those seals and boots kits and re-grease the things and put new rubber stuff on them. [20:46] TR News "Y'know, don't take this the wrong way, but I kinda get the impression you're more than a little, um, shall we say, "obsessed" with Firefox? I don't think I've ever seen anybody worry so much about availability, future plans - does it even have a "future"? - etc., etc." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/772597/is-this-a-legit-mozilla-ppa/ [20:46] TR Bot Is this a legit Mozilla PPA? - Linux & Unix [20:50] TR News WordPress Turns 19 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165391 [20:50] TR Bot WordPress Turns 19 | Tux Machines [20:50] activelow nilfs2 it will be, the nilfs_cleanerd still crashes when executed as aarch32-binary on top of an aarch64 kernel [20:51] activelow i can use nilfs2 already, including the crc32 verification (fsck) utility; and yes, it's very pleasent, when all segment crc32 match for both data and metadata [20:51] DaemonFC Microsoft has a Windows on ARM developer kit pretty cheap. If it runs GNU/Linux, it may be worth buying. [20:52] DaemonFC Paul Thurrott got one and said it was a pretty dismal experience with Windows 10. It's not actually powerful enough to run Windows 10 very well, and even though the Windows PC Health program says you can run Windows 11, there's not officially supported way of installing or upgrading to that. [20:52] TR News Better install a virtual machine of GNU/Linux and do it properly. Or properly boot into GNU/Linux. Windows is as relic and it has back doors. https://petri.com/how-to-use-git-bash-on-windows/ [20:52] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://petri.com/how-to-use-git-bash-on-windows/ ) [20:52] DaemonFC So I see Microsoft's off to the races again with another halfassed attempt to get anyone to pay attention to Windows on ARM. [20:53] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [20:53] schestowitz_TR2 DaemonFC: too late [20:53] DaemonFC It's barely powerful enough to run the included ARM software, so I suppose you can forget about x86 emulation. [20:53] schestowitz_TR2 it's also too far [20:53] schestowitz_TR2 *fat [20:53] schestowitz_TR2 mission impossoble [20:53] schestowitz_TR2 just getting windows tpoo boot ona pi or olpc means nothing [20:54] schestowitz_TR2 if you wait a very long time [20:54] schestowitz_TR2 and then everything si far too slow [20:54] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, As far as too fat, I mean obviously. You'd think that, starting over, with no legacy baggage, they could cut away some of the things that only made sense in the context of running x86 Windows software. [20:54] DaemonFC And that might reduce the weight. [20:54] schestowitz_TR2 you can stuff a horse into a van [20:55] schestowitz_TR2 but you would not then take the live horse into the intersttae in avan [20:55] DaemonFC I mean, the sole purpose of the WinSXS folder is so that old programs will find the libraries they need to run. [20:55] DaemonFC But there aren't any old programs from 20, 10, 5, or even 1 year ago on ARM for Windows. [20:55] DaemonFC There's basically what comes with the developer kit and nothing else at the moment. [20:56] TR News Be GENTOO with our things https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/whats-on/things-to-do/edinburgh-zoo-urges-visitors-to-stop-tampering-with-signs-after-disrespectful-behaviour-from-guests-3709617 maybe the animals in the zoo... are the humans [20:56] TR Bot Edinburgh Zoo urges visitors to stop 'tampering with signs' after disrespectful behaviour from guests | Edinburgh News [20:56] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, They found a 1,300 pound bison that got loose and had been living in the Lake County Forest Preserve for over a year and a half, the other day. [20:56] DaemonFC People occasionally spotted it, but it got away before anyone could come to capture it. They finally lured it into a live trap using some food as bait. [20:57] schestowitz_TR2 DaemonFC: sorry to bother you [20:57] schestowitz_TR2 you said you would write about wsl [20:57] schestowitz_TR2 that stupid beleeping computer thing [20:57] schestowitz_TR2 I didn't look into it [20:57] schestowitz_TR2 but stumbled upon it [20:57] schestowitz_TR2 we could use as rebuttal [20:57] schestowitz_TR2 as it keeps happening [20:57] DaemonFC Yeah, been meaning to. I ate something that disagreed with me this morning and ended up riding it out in bed. [20:57] schestowitz_TR2 the media blaming "linux" for WSL being shit [20:58] schestowitz_TR2 DaemonFC: too many details [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] DaemonFC When you make a Linux guest in Windows, you don't make the GNU/Linux system stronger, you just make it inherit all of the performance and security disasters that were already in Windows. So, it's like. What else did anyone expect this to be except for some underperforming security nightmare that gives people new ways to write Windows malware? ● May 29 [21:00] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [21:00] TR News Laugh all you want, but corporations do not respect basic free speech, they just throw that term around https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2022/05/27/large-us-companies-rated-on-respect-for-free-speech-religious-freedom/ [21:00] TR Bot Large US companies rated on respect for free speech, religious freedom Catholic World Report [21:00] DaemonFC It's not even fully compatible with the "Linux" system you choose for it. And then Microsoft keeps bolting in hooks that extend "Linux" in a whole bunch of ways that only work on Windows. [21:00] DaemonFC So it's the Microsoft Java scandal all over again, as well. [21:00] DaemonFC Only with nobody willing to sue them this time. [21:01] TR News BS. They don't need a scam. https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/05/27/cryptos-one-unassailable-use-case-helping-human-rights-activists/ [21:01] TR Bot Crypto's One Unassailable Use Case: Helping Human Rights Activists [21:01] DaemonFC Microsoft fundamentally misunderstands the "problem". They know their customers want to run "Linux" workloads, so they figured they could tack something on to Windows and say "use that". [21:01] DaemonFC And aside from some corrupt "influencers" they pay to promote it, nobody I know of is using it for anything. [21:03] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, Well, they make these omelet in a cup things at the store now. And they're ridiculously overpriced. But they're on iBotta and so that makes them a cheap breakfast. So I stocked up on them going what the hell. [21:03] DaemonFC That was the last thing I ate before I became sick to my stomach. So I don't know it was that, but..... [21:03] TR News How to associate fakecoin with people who smoke pot https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/how-the-federal-government-showed-me-the-importance-of-bitcoin [21:04] schestowitz https://www.osnews.com/story/134925/microsoft-announces-a-brand-new-arm-powered-desktop-pc-and-arm-native-dev-tools/ [21:04] schestowitz LOL! [21:05] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:05] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [21:05] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [21:06] TR News They always find some 'compelling' excuses for more surveillance https://mettisglobal.news/sbp-expands-scope-of-data-collection-to-curtail-digital-banking-frauds/ [21:07] TR Bot SBP expands scope of data collection to curtail digital banking frauds - Mettis Global News [21:08] TR News To telegram, YOU are the product. Why would you PAY for it? https://www.gsmarena.com/telegram_to_soon_launch_its_premium_plan-news-54468.php (No, Telegram is NOT privacy) [21:08] TR Bot to soon launch its premium plan - GSMArena.com news [21:08] DaemonFC schestowitz, Capitalism is weird. They make products too expensive and then they slip people who won't pay it a deal. [21:09] TR News What Made GoLang So Popular? The Languages Creators Look Back - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/what-made-golang-so-popular-the-languages-creators-look-back/ Source: thenewstack [21:09] TR Bot What Made GoLang So Popular? The Languages Creators Look Back The New Stack [21:09] TR News Welcome to Windows. Goodbye. What Made GoLang So Popular? The Languages Creators Look Back - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/what-made-golang-so-popular-the-languages-creators-look-back/ Source: thenewstack [21:10] TR News Welcome to Windows. Goodbye. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/772562/windows-crashes-no-bsod/ [21:10] TR Bot Windows crashes no BSOD - Windows Crashes and Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Help and Support [21:11] TR News He makes NATO look bad. And some wanted him in the EU, too? https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/05/27/playing-games-in-nato-turkey-eyes-its-role-in-a-new-world-order/ [21:11] TR Bot Playing games in NATO, Turkey eyes its role in a new world order - Modern Diplomacy [21:12] psydroid2 that makes capitalism nothing more than a form of cheap manipulation [21:12] schestowitz https://www.osnews.com/story/134925/microsoft-announces-a-brand-new-arm-powered-desktop-pc-and-arm-native-dev-tools/ [21:12] TR Bot announces a brand-new ARM-powered desktop PC and ARM-native dev tools OSnews [21:12] schestowitz "I actually wouldnt mind one of these as an actual product for regular end users. Windows on ARM needs a big push, and while Im not sure these announcements constitute such a big push, its at least something." [21:12] schestowitz Why would he LIKE it? [21:12] psydroid2 cheap form of manipulation* [21:12] schestowitz what can that do that GNU/Linux cannot, and more efficiently? and no back doors... [21:13] schestowitz DaemonFC: right, now it's screaming in prain [21:13] schestowitz to make itself seem legitimate [21:13] psydroid2 he benefits from it somehow? [21:14] schestowitz from a less tech channel (many typos) [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] 1990s: job demand [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] 2000: the market is BACK [21:14] psydroid2 decommoditise the commodities [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] 2010: we're back [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] after pandemic: market back! [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] after unkraine: MACK [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] 'after' [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] they always cheers "the system" [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] there are always many jobs, they say [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] while they blame "great resiugnation" [21:14] schestowitz [19:11] the people who OWN the paper never had to apply for a job! [21:14] schestowitz [19:13] blame the unem,ployed or uneresployed for their misfortunes [21:14] schestowitz [19:13] and blaming the poor for their poverty [21:14] schestowitz [19:13] that's how the system helpd the "weak" [21:14] schestowitz [19:13] shame [21:14] schestowitz [19:13] *underemployed [21:15] psydroid2 (or decommodify) [21:15] schestowitz some were subsidised [21:15] schestowitz by taxpayers [21:15] schestowitz now they shuffle the capitsl between the pots [21:15] schestowitz to keep it afloat [21:16] psydroid2 actually free markets are undesirable? [21:17] schestowitz no such thing [21:17] schestowitz they always had regulation [21:17] schestowitz even in the US [21:17] schestowitz but not in your favour [21:17] schestowitz because of regulatory capture [21:17] schestowitz same for politicians [21:17] psydroid2 perfect competition should be the ideal [21:17] schestowitz oligarchs capture them [21:17] schestowitz then they "market" these to voters [21:18] schestowitz psydroid2: not always [21:18] schestowitz for utilities like water you need to share pipes [21:18] schestowitz and other facilities [21:18] schestowitz or openreach for wiring [21:18] schestowitz the competition is then mostly "optics" [21:18] psydroid2 those should probably never be privatised [21:18] schestowitz they compete over price, support service.. [21:19] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:19] psydroid2 public transport is another thing that hasn't improved with competition [21:19] psydroid2 it only became worse and more expensive [21:19] schestowitz in the UK any household with broadband or landline pays annual tax for the infra [21:19] psydroid2 particularly in theUK [21:19] schestowitz they call it line renta [21:19] psydroid2 the UK* [21:19] schestowitz line rental is about 220 a year at the moment [21:20] schestowitz if you cannot afford to pay for the year upfront, it is more [21:20] schestowitz IOW, the POOR pay MORE for it [21:20] schestowitz either in debt interest of installments [21:20] schestowitz psydroid2: I use my feet and bike [21:20] schestowitz public transport is not pleasant [21:21] schestowitz the "peasants" can become less "pleasant" when they're treated so badfly [21:21] schestowitz we need to revolutionise work [21:21] schestowitz to lower use of vehicles [21:21] schestowitz the many jobs in the UK are considered "intellectual" labour [21:22] schestowitz not much farming going on, and there they import "workfroce" [21:22] schestowitz and many of the physical jobs are servicing centralised working space [21:22] schestowitz if it's "knowledge economy", then a change was missed in COVID-19 [21:23] schestowitz and not likely we'll change modes of working [21:23] schestowitz or distribution of resources [21:23] schestowitz the old businesses want their old models "back" [21:24] TR News Scam vs scheme https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/bitcoin-vs.-bitcoin-cash:-whats-the-difference-and-which-is-better [21:25] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:25] psydroid2 https://www.acm.nl/en/publications/publication/9189/OPTA-on-the-cable-sector-Put-an-end-to-cross-subsidies [21:25] TR News Weekend lack of focus gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/weekend-out-of-focus [21:26] schestowitz_TR2 people thing subsidies make things "cheaper" [21:26] schestowitz_TR2 easily forgetting where the money comes from [21:26] schestowitz_TR2 (them) [21:26] schestowitz_TR2 they just hide it [21:27] schestowitz_TR2 like right n ow when the gov. gives energy "help" [21:27] schestowitz_TR2 150 pounds in Manchester [21:27] schestowitz_TR2 and 400 this coming auitumn [21:27] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@yyunjisfxsv9q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:27] schestowitz_TR2 where does this money come from? us. [21:27] schestowitz_TR2 where does it go? us. [21:27] schestowitz_TR2 nice stunt you got there, borisnaro [21:27] schestowitz_TR2 maybe they should, instead, tax corporations like bp a lot more [21:28] schestowitz_TR2 or force bp et al to charge less for enrgy [21:28] psydroid2 I think we are going to see the end of power-hungry services and devices including computers [21:28] schestowitz_TR2 they have all-time highs in reports of income/revenue [21:28] schestowitz_TR2 so what do you do? [21:28] schestowitz_TR2 take from taxpayers, give back to taxpayers [21:28] schestowitz_TR2 BP: LMAO [21:28] psydroid2 normal people can't afford it anymore [21:29] schestowitz_TR2 we have not used the heating since before the pandemic [21:29] schestowitz_TR2 at all [21:29] schestowitz_TR2 our bills are 2.5 cheaper thaan my friend who lives with his partner [21:29] psydroid2 I've read from PC gaming people asking for government intervention when it comes to power consumption by computers, since it's going to get out of hand without intervention [21:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi [21:30] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:30] psydroid2 I only used minimal heating to prevent the pipes from breaking [21:31] psydroid2 in winter [21:31] schestowitz_TR2 they only break after thawing at about -2 [21:31] schestowitz_TR2 if they're outdoors like ours [21:32] DaemonFC https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/speakers/speaker_accessories/wave-fm-antenna.html#ProductTabs_tab999 [21:32] DaemonFC "No old fashioned screw terminals." Just a coaxial. [21:33] DaemonFC FM antennas aren't particularly fancy. You can buy coaxial FM antennas that work with the old Bose systems from all kinds of sellers on ebay and Amazon. It's all from China but it's so simple I doubt that you'll have any trouble out of it. [21:33] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [21:33] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [21:34] DaemonFC When I was a kid and I wanted to have a TV in my bedroom, my dad was so cheap that I ended up making a UHF/VHF antenna out of an old copper coat hanger and some aluminum foil and copper wiring I cut off a tube he had in the garage. [21:35] DaemonFC It worked fine. I could get TV stations from Fort Wayne, Muncie, and Indianapolis pretty clearly. They were 35 miles northeast, 30 miles southeast, and 85 miles south. [21:36] DaemonFC There was plenty of free stuff over the air back then. [21:36] DaemonFC You didn't really need cable. [21:36] DaemonFC Our public television has always been badly under-funded, even before Bush and Trump. [21:37] DaemonFC Even in the 90s, PBS affiliates had to gather up small donations to pool together to buy rebroadcasting rights to things like Doctor Who, The Red Green Show, and Red Dwarf. [21:38] DaemonFC So it was almost all British and Canadian public TV they just bought broadcast rights too. Very little was US-based other than Nova, Reading Rainbow, Sesame Street, some nature documentaries, etc. [21:38] DaemonFC The US-based stuff wasn't all crap, but a lot of it was for children. [21:39] DaemonFC They had Bill Nye the Science Guy. He was always fun to watch even if he was a bit remedial. [21:39] DaemonFC I doubt adults today have the science education of a 6th grader back when he was on the air originally, before Netflix brought him back briefly. [21:40] DaemonFC There's no reason to educate people to be scientific. To have a mind that wants to know "why" or "how". It doesn't help corrupt politicians who want to line their pockets with your money and control feebleminded people and keep them bickering with each other over nonsense. [21:42] DaemonFC Everything Orwellian has now happened, in this country. Permanent war, "telescreens" (iPads, Windows, iPhones, etc.), an economy based on keeping neighbors bickering with each other with brief respites to watch porn and sporting events and to buy lottery scratchers, and cheap alcohol. [21:43] DaemonFC Nineteen Eighty-Four was optimistic. It presumed that there would be a lot of people such as Winston Smith, who knew better, but went along with it anyway because they were being watched. [21:43] DaemonFC In fact, today, 90% of the public is basically so stupid that they don't know how to participate in basic civic process and it's probably better if they don't vote at all. [21:44] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@smd87xajqa2sn.irc) has joined #techrights [21:45] DaemonFC Sometimes I get what I vote for and when I get what I really wanted, it's not so bad. But it's rare. Usually I get saddled with the douch or the turd sandwich like the Biden/Trump thing. [21:45] DaemonFC *douche [21:46] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, I don't think you want to admit it, but your country has gone there and bought the T-shirt too, although it may not be as bad in some ways, it's actually more pervasive in others. [21:46] DaemonFC I mean, you have the NHS, what's left of it. Good for you. I hope you can see a doctor this year. I hope you're satisfied with the taxes. [21:46] DaemonFC But then, you have Johnson's crime bill which is something that would make most Republicans here go "What the fuck!". [21:47] DaemonFC Trump actually did have the legal authority to do what he was threatening to do during the riots. The President has the authority to send in the marines when the state governors can't or won't protect people's lives, property, and civil rights. [21:48] DaemonFC Kennedy did it with Alabama. Trump could have done it with Chicago. [21:48] DaemonFC In fact, it's been done. The reason he didn't actually go through with it is because I think he is smarter than he projects to get votes. [21:49] psydroid2 I don't know if Moronix has been posting more AMD articles, but their new processors for later this year aren't even going to perform much better than their 2-year-old ones nor consume less power [21:49] DaemonFC He's undoubtedly aware of what happened when there were riots in Detroit and Chicago in the 1960s and the military was sent in to restore order. And they didn't. The riots got worse. The rioters started shooting at the army, the army army started shooting back. It was a disaster. [21:49] DaemonFC Neighborhoods on fire. Damage that can still be seen today. [21:49] DaemonFC So that's way worse than some Oakley sunglass store being sacked. [21:50] schestowitz_TR2 psydroid2: these were meentioned [21:50] schestowitz_TR2 and then by the "me tooers" of michael [21:50] DaemonFC But many younger people today don't know anything about history, even of their own country. Even major events such as Watergate, the Civil Rights movement, or the Vietnam War. [21:50] schestowitz_TR2 e.g. Two energy wasters https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-could-be-readying-a-super-cheap-gpu-to-tackle-nvidias-rumored-gtx-1630 we need to innovate in another direction... [21:50] TR Bot could be readying a super-cheap GPU to tackle Nvidias rumored GTX 1630 | TechRadar [21:50] DaemonFC So it's impossible to avoid the same things happening today. [21:51] DaemonFC Because politicians can keep tricking the latest generation, when they don't know where the proposals lead last time. [21:51] DaemonFC So there's not just an incentive to keep people scientifically illiterate, but also illiterate of history. [21:52] DaemonFC We already have a fresh batch of adults, who *can* vote, who don't know what happened on September 11, 2001, or why the Iraq War happened. [21:53] DaemonFC So yeah, fucked. And we're fucked because we have two parties who each have their own reasons to keep people dumb. [21:53] DaemonFC The left wants people dumb so they can be controlled with handouts. [21:53] DaemonFC The right wants people dumb so they'll be religious and easy to manipulate with issues like reproductive rights. [21:54] DaemonFC When you start educating yourself, you start forming your own variety of opinions about things, and then nobody likes you, because 90% of the population is stupid and is completely in the bag for the leftists or the right-wing fascists and Nazis. [21:55] DaemonFC I intend to split my ballot this year, honestly. I honestly intend to do that. We'll see how my slate of Republican candidates did. I sure as hell don't want them to get the US Senate seat, but I think other than that, anything goes. [21:56] DaemonFC I didn't think any of the Republican candidates for the US Senate were any good. They were all some form of Trump asshole-licker, so I just voted strategically and for the very worst one while I was at it. [21:57] DaemonFC And there's a logic to that, right? If they're all going to be openly racist, especially against Asian people, then pick the one that's very VERY open about it. The thing is, the incumbent Senator is an Asian woman and she's a veteran of the war in Iraq, and you know, if this guy I voted to saddle the Republicans with wins and goes to a live debate with her in Illinois, the result will be he gets demolished in the election. [21:58] DaemonFC Because he won't be able to contain himself in the debate if he hasn't bothered to on his website. ● May 29 [22:00] DaemonFC For the rest of the ballot, I voted towards moderate Republicans. There's a black man running for Governor, a South Korean immigrant running for Secretary of State, and a former Democrat turned Republican who used to be our Sheriff running for the Supreme Court. It's pretty diverse, none of them are extremists. Richard Irvin (the candidate for Governor) says he actually wants to expand Illinois state-level protections for immigrant families [22:00] DaemonFC beyond what Pritzker did. [22:00] DaemonFC You never hear about these people. [22:00] DaemonFC I think it's time we changed that and push things back to roughly where the party was in the 1960s before Nixon started openly courting southern racists. [22:01] DaemonFC That's where things started to go very badly wrong. You let all of that trash in and they're your base now. And you own that, and they start making more demands with the power you handed them. [22:01] psydroid2 schestowitz_TR2, they are going to be in a world of hurt if performance of ARM and RISC-V processors are going to reach their levels at a fraction of power consumption and cost. Too many people are dismissing this because of some holy grail of "binary compatibility", but why would Microsoft keep trying to get people to develop and make available applications for Windows on ARM then [22:02] TR News "I recently took up basketry as a hobby. Each basket has been a bit better, as one would expect, but this one -- my fourth -- is the first one I'm truly happy with. It's the first one that I've stained and sealed with a wood oil and I think it really completes what otherwise looks like a half-finished product." gemini://gemini.rlamacraft.uk/handiwork/fourthBasket.gmi photos too... [22:02] DaemonFC Johnson's party in the UK is doing vouchers for religious schools too. [22:02] DaemonFC I think it was Dawkins that pointed this out? [22:03] DaemonFC The UK is turning into the Alabama of Europe. [22:03] DaemonFC And it's all coming from England. [22:03] *bnchs (~bnchs@bjckeed7fe7s6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] DaemonFC MinceR, I'll tell you how damned expensive Bose systems are. [22:05] DaemonFC Even broken Wave Radios, people want $100 for them on eBay, and they're broken and missing the remote, and they say all you can do with it is cannibalize them for parts, and they're not even the latest model. [22:05] DaemonFC :P [22:07] schestowitz_TR2 psydroid2: I do almost all my programming on arm [22:07] schestowitz_TR2 because of a number of factors [22:07] schestowitz_TR2 all our critical files are also on amr [22:07] schestowitz_TR2 *arm [22:07] schestowitz_TR2 xx86 is good for heavy computation [22:08] schestowitz_TR2 like vidoe processing, which is just automated and goes on for hours [22:09] bnchs i think mips is good for both cases [22:10] DaemonFC MinceR, Cars are all basically BMW now. [22:10] DaemonFC They take these cheap little engines and put twin overhead cams and turbochargers on them. [22:10] DaemonFC They're not built to last. [22:10] psydroid2 mips barely exists anymore outside of loongson [22:10] DaemonFC The only upside with a Chevy or Ford is at least the car doesn't cost a fortune, so when it finally takes a dump on you, you'll be out LESS money. [22:10] psydroid2 and higher-end arm is also fast while still using much less power than x86 [22:11] DaemonFC I'm highly skeptical of anyone who claims you can reliably get more than 200 horsepower out of a 1.5 liter engine. [22:11] DaemonFC You can, if you're not at all concerned about longevity. [22:14] DaemonFC A 200 horsepower engine without a turbo and overhead cams, is going to be about three times the size of what these companies are shipping now. [22:15] DaemonFC And it'll go for 400,000 miles or so because there's not as much strain on any particular part of the engine, and the engine is made out of more durable materials. [22:15] DaemonFC They don't want to do this anymore. [22:16] DaemonFC At some point, I guess, GM realized it's easier to ship crap in a Buick and get away with it because the owners tend to be old and not drive them much anyway. There's lots of cars like mine that go on the market and they're 14-15 years old with 50,000-60,000 miles. [22:17] DaemonFC They don't drive them around a lot like young people do. You see a lot of 2018s, 2020s....They already have over 100,000 miles on them. And because they model year is a lot newer, you have to pay twice as much or more. [22:17] DaemonFC Everyone around me who goes car shopping says the same thing "It's hard to find anything under $20,000 that's not absolute garbage on its way to the dump. [22:18] DaemonFC So I mean, even with the rust repair job and the brake overhaul, and the wheel bearing replacements, and the new tensioner, and the flushings, filters, oil change, and belt replacement. I'm doing a hell of a lot better than that. And the car looks good, it drives good. It's totally quiet while you're driving it. The transmission is smooth. [22:19] DaemonFC It's easier to find a older car that has some sin going on and fix it than it is to try to find something that's good to go right now. [22:19] DaemonFC You will pay double, or more if you want something that is not going to need some work done up front. [22:20] TR News "I am extremely against how the reddit algorithm squashes genuine taste and voice." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [22:24] DaemonFC I almost never drive anything that was newer than about 14 years old when I bought it. And if you can believe it, I've only had one car break down and strand me somewhere in the last 22 years. [22:24] DaemonFC It's because I generally watch what the hell I'm buying. [22:25] DaemonFC Then I pay some guy to fix anything that was wrong with it when I bought it that's going to be a reliability issue at some point. [22:26] DaemonFC My mom gets random cars off some buy here pay here lot and they fall apart right away and she still owes payments and can't afford to fix anything, and biting her nails hoping that the payments are over before she loses that car. [22:26] DaemonFC She's bought them new and destroyed them in less than three years before though. [22:27] DaemonFC She's particularly hard on transmissions. Many of her cars have serious transmission problems, mostly because she doesn't service them like you ought to and because she doesn't wait until the car is fully stopped before switching gears. [22:27] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, She was offering to hand me that 2011 Impala LTZ she has right now. [22:27] DaemonFC I told my mechanic that. He says, "Well, if it was going to be free, why didn't you take it?". [22:28] TR News "I could eat the axx out of a dead rhinoceros" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/982 [22:28] DaemonFC I said, "Because I'd be right back in here paying you thousands of dollars anyway, in installments. You don't want a free car from mom." [22:28] DaemonFC Oh my god, she hits every pothole. Like she's aiming for them. [22:28] DaemonFC She stands up on the brake pedal. [22:28] TR News Why Everyone Should Use Adguard gemini://sanelkukic.smol.pub/2022-05-29_why-everyone-should-use-adguard "I hate ads. I think anyone who knows me can attest to the fact that I hate ads." [22:29] DaemonFC She puts everything she buys through Hell. [22:29] DaemonFC She asked me how my portable washer is running. I said, "Fine, why?". She goes, "I can't get them to last more then about 3 months.". [22:29] TR News "As it is custom, whatever trend appears in America becomes mainstream in Japan after it has completely lost its cool. This time the government and a billionaire think what the Japanese people really should care about is some jpgs." gemini://nelforzo.smol.pub/1653817188 [22:29] DaemonFC I have no idea what she is doing to her washing machines. Probably treating them like her Impalas and Pontiacs. [22:30] DaemonFC If you could run the washing machine straight over a 2.5 foot curb, she'd do it. [22:30] DaemonFC She did that to one of her cars and blew out both the tires and dented the rims. [22:31] DaemonFC Because she hit the gas and instead of turning, she just drove over a curb. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:52] matey fewer features, less github [22:52] matey until they move that there too [22:53] activelow matey: ever tried dvtm? [22:53] matey if the chief gnuisance is too hobbled, like james caan in misery [22:53] matey other people can still say what a load of crap it is [22:53] activelow i think dvtm is the most capable terminal multiplexer [22:54] matey the reason they call it a coc by the way [22:54] matey is because like kathy bates in misery [22:54] schestowitz_TR2 Corporations hiding their crimes behind the veil of "diversity" does NOT help minorities but EXPLOITS minorities that are hurt the MOST by these corporate crimes [22:55] matey the big fans of free software at lieplanet wont tolerate ANY cockadoodie from neckbeards [22:55] schestowitz_TR2 EPO President Antnio Campinos is still not being held accountable for his Code of Conduct violations http://techrights.org/2022/05/23/monopoly-tony-code-of-conduct-violations/ [22:55] TR Bot [Meme] Its My Working Party And Ill Cry If I Want to! | Techrights [22:55] matey bates wants to write the ending of sheldons book [22:55] matey and lieplanet wants to write the ending of the fsf [22:56] schestowitz [15:07] I think many of us have seen that a CoC does NOT protect who the media (corporations) said to us it would protect. CoC stands for Cannot Ostracise Corporations. [22:56] matey anything they have to do to see it happen their way is obviously justified [22:56] matey maybe its wrong, maybe its terrible-- but at least its not cockadoodie [22:57] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:57] matey hell tmux even comes included with openbsd [22:57] matey it isnt perfect, thats for sure [22:58] matey but at least it isnt part of systemd yet [22:58] matey systemd-multiplexd [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [22:59] matey john hancock had such a long signature that it became synonymous with signing things [22:59] activelow i used tmux for many years, i consider dvtm superior, because the expected feature-set is complete with dvtm, and dvtm is ~90% smaller than tmux (linux of code, and binary size) [22:59] matey systemd seems to have the same mentality towards naming their components ● May 29 [23:00] activelow *lines of code [23:01] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/right-in [23:01] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Right In [23:02] activelow migrated my entire setup to yaft+dvtm already, and won't return to gnome/microsoft/systemd whatever [23:02] matey lennart poettering doesnt think systemd-multiplexd is too long a name [23:02] activelow i could wipe GNU readline, GNU glib... by coincidence it seems, alot of the GNU aren't necessary anymore too [23:02] matey his middle name is stroopwaffel [23:03] psydruid lennartpoetteringthebutcherofgnulinuxfromredhat [23:03] matey also known as the flying bakery brigade [23:03] activelow except... GNU debugger, it is the only one remaining to insist on GNU readline [23:03] matey the weiss angel of gnu/linux [23:03] activelow don't know, if any other debugger exists, to avoid GDB, although that's not necessary, GCC it is which causes endless pain [23:04] matey herr doktor poettering [23:04] matey know for his "experiments" with init systemd [23:04] matey systems [23:04] matey ill never be able to type that word properly again [23:04] matey on the second try sure [23:04] matey but never the first [23:04] activelow to remain fair with systemd... sysvinit wasn't particularly good before [23:05] MinceR it also wasn't particularly bad [23:05] matey what, when it was optional? [23:05] activelow MinceR: without OpenRC my system boots twice as fast, with the exact same services started [23:06] activelow and i did enable parallelism with openrc, with my custon rc script i didn't [23:06] MinceR so what's in place of openrc? [23:06] activelow MinceR: /bin/sh with a while ; do ; done to re/spawn gettys [23:06] matey honestly if it wasnt for sane options like rc.d [23:06] MinceR oh, you're the one who decided that reaping zombies was for squares [23:07] matey id just do like dr sixel and run my own non-init [23:07] matey really, autoexec was all i needed [23:07] matey and rc.d does about as much to get in your way or tell you what to do as autoexec.bat did [23:07] matey now thats considerate [23:08] matey when you see the painstaking effort made to NOT make rc.d into a pain in the arse [23:08] matey its basically the opposite of systemd in every way [23:08] matey except its modern enough [23:08] matey for people who cant bear to use something more than 5 years old (like epstein. no, wait) [23:08] matey what do think jeff? [23:09] matey i dont know, 18 years is kind of obsolete [23:09] matey today someone online said nt was crappy security because the kernel is 20 years old [23:09] matey ... [23:09] matey right conclusion, but [23:09] matey linux is older [23:09] matey i thought it was a weird argument [23:10] matey i was like "yeah, better use 30-year-old linix kernel, since nt is old and obsolete" [23:12] psydruid they actually wanted to say that Microsoft has only been applying layers of duct tape since the early days instead of thoroughly reworking the kernel to become better and more maintainable [23:12] matey they should have said that [23:12] psydruid but that's squarely a Microsoft problem [23:12] matey indeed [23:12] matey afaik theyve never written a kernel on their own [23:13] matey dos was based on qdos, they bought that [23:13] matey nt was based on joint research with ibm [23:13] matey if microsoft is so great at making an os [23:13] matey how come theyve never actually made one? [23:13] psydruid that's the elephant in the room [23:13] matey to be fair, im not sure about minux. but thats probably not original either [23:13] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@ng6rt39abq6pn.irc) has joined #techrights [23:13] matey minix even [23:14] matey that was surprisingly enjoyable SomeH4x0r [23:14] matey credit where credit is due [23:14] matey also dd is WAY different than i expected [23:14] matey hes lke [23:14] matey not really even slightly a douchebag (so far) [23:14] matey i was expecting a SLIGHT one at least [23:15] matey which would be fine [23:15] SomeH4x0r not sure what are you talking about, my connection keeps glitching [23:15] matey but i didnt think we would have much in common [23:15] matey not sure what are you talking about <- no worries, its only good things anyway [23:18] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/29/wsl-windows-malware-steals-browser-cookies-deploys-remote-access-trojan-bleeping-computer-calls-out-windows/ [23:18] TR Bot WSL Windows malware steals browser cookies, deploys Remote Access Trojan. Bleeping Computer calls out Windows. BaronHK's Rants [23:18] DaemonFC How is this? [23:19] DaemonFC "Calling Windows the future of operating systems is like calling Sears the future of retail." [23:20] activelow windows NT was based on DEC OpenVMS [23:20] activelow wasn't aware DEC was associated with IBM [23:21] DaemonFC Microsoft is just a bunch of packrats and copycats. [23:21] DaemonFC They steal everything and then pay out a lawsuit settlement about that later. [23:21] activelow don't know, why the DEC developers joined Microsoft [23:22] DaemonFC DEC sued them and it settled out of court for undisclosed amounts of money to DEC, but some say it was almost $700 million over 20 years ago. [23:22] DaemonFC don't know, why the DEC developers joined Microsoft [23:22] DaemonFC Money. They probably offered them better money. [23:22] activelow didn't know Microsoft was sued by DEC [23:22] activelow anyway, DEC is defunct since 1998 [23:23] activelow and 30years later, the anti-competitive crap is an endless headache still [23:24] activelow one to mention again: filesystems [23:25] matey xenix [23:26] matey xenix was the microsoft one [23:26] activelow ultrix (dec), aix (ibm), solaris (sun) [23:26] matey www.unixmen.com/xenix-the-microsoft-unix-that-once-was/ [23:26] matey In 1979, Microsoft formed an agreement with AT&T Corporation to license Unix from AT&T. And then Microsoft licensed out its renamed Unix to OEM vendors, including Intel, Tandy and SCO. Those companies then ported it to their own hardware architectures and requirements. [23:26] matey "to license Unix from AT&T. And then Microsoft licensed out its renamed Unix" [23:26] matey so, yeah [23:26] matey one again. microsoft cant even make a fucking os [23:26] psydruid short-term monetary gains for the few at the expense of long-term gigantic losses for society as a whole [23:27] matey but people have heard so much fucking marketing, they think its the best one [23:27] matey if youre in marketing, kill yourself [23:27] psydruid but that's how mankind rolls [23:27] matey no, thats what mincer thinks too [23:27] matey thats how capitalism rolls [23:27] matey and despite what he says about "if you call everything you dont like 'capitalism'" [23:27] matey anti-capitalists tend to have a better (clearer, more precise) definition of capitalism than the capitalists do [23:28] MinceR i'd like to see such a definition, and i'd like to see it applied consistently [23:28] matey in the same way that atheists often know more about the bible than the nutjubs praying to the guy with bad hair on the television [23:28] matey mincer: thats fair [23:28] matey a tall order, but tair [23:28] matey fuck typing [23:28] matey /me hires someone to do dictation [23:28] matey not stalin though, fuck that guy [23:28] MinceR i'm not saying i'd like to see people agree on one, because i know that's never going to happen [23:29] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:29] matey dont worry, anyone who doesnt agree, we know what to do with them [23:29] *bnchs (~bnchs@bjckeed7fe7s6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:29] activelow nowadays, linux kernel is abused as corporate dump-yard, i had preferred IBM/DEC/Microsoft dumped their own systems with anti-competitive crap, instead of poisoning linux kernel [23:29] activelow and GNU, particularly GNU compiler [23:29] matey i have a guess who bnchs is, but obviously i wouldnt say [23:29] matey i wouldnt even hint [23:30] psydruid I believe linux was always destined to become a corporate dumping ground [23:30] matey politically, its been one since the 90s [23:30] matey linus is one of the people [23:30] psydruid and it has reached its full potential in that regard [23:30] matey he says hes modest [23:30] matey and you can tell hes full of shit [23:30] matey he isnt modest [23:31] matey he took credit for something way more important than linux-- AND THEN [23:31] TR News Another Way to See Latest Gemini Activities | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/gemini-activities/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/gemini-activities/ [23:31] TR Bot Another Way to See Latest Gemini Activities | Techrights [23:31] matey he let people make docu after docu about how he invented all this [23:31] matey thats not remotely ethical [23:31] psydruid fake modesty Scandinavian style [23:31] matey i dont know scandinavians [23:31] matey but id avoid the region if its typical [23:31] matey i think most do anyway just because its fucking cold [23:32] psydruid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante [23:32] TR Bot Law of Jante - Wikipedia [23:32] matey linus has been selling out forever [23:32] matey only slightly less [23:33] matey painting him as a hero [23:33] bnchs i think you and somehacker and xrevan86 already know [23:33] matey politically speaking, hes a charlatan [23:33] matey bnchs: wrong, its only a guess [23:33] matey no worries [23:33] matey either way its your business [23:33] bnchs alright [23:33] matey i didnt even know xrevan was in there :) [23:34] matey he probably only speaks jamaican patois in there, and didnt say much [23:34] matey he would make an excellent spy if he doesnt already :) [23:34] matey though i admit, the russian spy thing is SO OLD [23:34] matey even as a joke [23:34] XRevan86 I already know what? [23:35] matey (also i didnt say for russia. he could be doing it for canada) [23:35] matey mountie spies are especially crafty [23:35] activelow i don't think it was linus at fault [23:35] activelow nor most of the kernel veteran kernel developers [23:35] matey its boring in canada and most people take up spying for shits and giggles [23:35] matey no one expects the canadian inquisition because theyre so fucking polite [23:36] matey by the time youve had tea and chatted for 5 minutes, they already know everything they need to know [23:36] matey the crazy psychopath lady from america does a ted talk on this [23:36] matey but they learned it from the canadians [23:36] matey after they figured out theyd been had [23:37] matey anyway, when they burned down the white house, they didnt even bring matches [23:37] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:37] matey they just asked for one [23:37] DaemonFC Very politely. [23:37] matey im terrified of canadians [23:37] DaemonFC And also some artwork that was impossible to replace to kindle it with. [23:37] matey you never spot it until its too late [23:38] DaemonFC Also, very politely. [23:38] DaemonFC Then saying they were very sorrrrrrey about all of this. [23:38] DaemonFC Well, aboot all of this. [23:38] matey ryan reynolds, perfect example [23:39] DaemonFC I can only imagine that. "We're really sorey aboot this, don'tcha know!". [23:39] matey his uncle was a mounty [23:39] *bnchs (~bnchs@bjckeed7fe7s6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:39] DaemonFC A Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksman? [23:40] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7hVjZHp6YQ [23:40] TR Bot https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=_7hVjZHp6YQ [23:40] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=_7hVjZHp6YQ ) [23:43] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:43] schestowitz DaemonFC: "unless the user goes through" [23:43] schestowitz before that GNU/Linux is misspelled [23:44] matey its spelled ibm/microsoft now [23:44] matey or as i now like to call it, ibm+microsoft [23:45] *bnchs (~bnchs@bjckeed7fe7s6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:46] TR News WSL Windows Malware Steals Browser Cookies, Deploys Remote Access Trojan | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/wsl-malware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/wsl-malware/ [23:46] TR Bot WSL Windows Malware Steals Browser Cookies, Deploys Remote Access Trojan | Techrights [23:46] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:48] TR News "At one point in time the pacman contrib scripts shipped with pacman and shipped with Arch Linux but due to maintenance issues it was split out." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VldltVyD4i0 [23:48] TR Bot These Pacman Scripts Should Ship With Arch Linux - Invidious [23:51] DaemonFC schestowitz, Fixed. [23:54] TR News Zeitgeist for the planetary system of Gemini capsules isnt a new challenge but an ongoing effort; weve had another go at it http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/gemini-activities/ [23:54] TR Bot Another Way to See Latest Gemini Activities | Techrights [23:54] TR News "Microsoft has spent a lot of time and money trying to Embrace, Extend, and Exterminate GNU/Linux. First, they decried it a cancer and Communism." http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/wsl-malware/ [23:57] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165392 [23:57] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:58] matey As detailed in U.S. military compromised by removable media malware, the United States Department of Defense was compromised by malware carried on removable media that was automatically executed every time the media was read by an MS Windows computer. [23:58] matey While it is possible to turn off AutoRun functionality, it is not always easy, and that functionality should not be the default anyway. Even worse, Windows Update has been known to surreptitiously reactivate capabilities like AutoRun. [23:59] matey 2010. when techrepublic wasnt a pile of shit https://www.techrepublic.com/article/unix-vs-microsoft-windows-how-system-designs-reflect-security-philosophy/ [23:59] TR Bot vs. Microsoft Windows: How system designs reflect security philosophy | TechRepublic