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● Jan 30
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[00:05]	techrights-bot	#IBM the company of racist, xenophobic Watson is hijacking "Black History Month" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/command-line-heroes-profiles-eight-black-tech-inventors-you-probably-havent-heard-changed-world see http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/
[00:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Command Line Heroes profiles eight Black tech inventors you (probably) havent heard of that changed the world
[00:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Full Story (With References) of IBMs Role in a Purge of Black People and Mixed-Race Couples | Techrights
[00:07]	techrights-bot	"Access" = limited trial. Try today, get locked in, pay later https://sdtimes.com/softwaredev/red-hat-expands-ways-to-access-rhel/
[00:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | Red Hat expands ways to access RHEL - SD Times
[00:07]	vZS1_2	Ah. Making a static /dev
[00:08]	vZS1_2	This takes me back.
[00:09]	techrights-bot	Avoiding #systemd and other #ibm vendor lock-in traps https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2020/12/30/333
[00:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysdfree.wordpress.com | 2021 hardcore list of linux without elogind and other systemd tracking devices | systemd-free linux community
[00:10]	schestowitz	vZS1_2: how long back?
[00:12]	vZS1_2	Can't remember. 
[00:12]	techrights-bot	#techrights will reach 30k blog posts some time this spring and 15th anniversary in late autumn http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Techrights-Birthday-14-Years
[00:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Techrights Birthday (14 Years)
[00:13]	schestowitz	I got some scoops on Microsoft
[00:13]	schestowitz	"can we crosspost in Techrights and link to the original, please?"
[00:15]	zoobab	Do you understand that UPC does not allow compulsory licensing?
[00:15]	zoobab	Max Planck says so
[00:16]	vZS1_2	schestowitz: that's always good news.
[00:17]	DaemonFC[m]	Right, I Bonds cover two things. Protection of principal and at least enough interest to overcome inflation.
[00:18]	DaemonFC[m]	So it's a place for your savings to go to if you don't want to watch it rot in a bank account.
[00:18]	schestowitz	zoobab: context to what I said earlier today?
[00:18]	schestowitz	I mentioned it in re covid19
[00:19]	schestowitz	iirc, some paper in writtendescription and/or patentlyo
[00:19]	DaemonFC[m]	So there's a place for both types.
[00:19]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: https://pointieststick.com/2021/01/29/on-stewardship/
[00:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pointieststick.com | On Stewardship Adventures in Linux and KDE
[00:19]	schestowitz	to nudge you back towards tech
[00:19]	schestowitz	re finance
[00:20]	DaemonFC[m]	Ideally, you'll have money for day to day and some unplanned stuff in the bank, then you put a cushion of I bonds that you could cash out after a year if you needed to, then some EE bonds that can probably go ahead and sit there for 20 years and double.
[00:20]	schestowitz	zoobab: do you know who the "Second" complainant is? ;-)
[00:20]	DaemonFC[m]	Bitcoin is probably not going to double anytime soon at this point.
[00:20]	DaemonFC[m]	At some point it will become so hard to mine new coins that it'll be fucking pointless.
[00:21]	DaemonFC[m]	The whole scheme is made even more ridiculous because it relied on an assumption of a rate of increase in computing power that couldn't possibly be accurately made and is falling apart just over a decade in.
[00:22]	DaemonFC[m]	Now remember that the whole scheme is designed to get more and more difficult and then no new coins at all eventually.
[00:22]	DaemonFC[m]	Right now, to be profitable at mining, you have people talking about ASIC miners and plugging in and stealing other people's power to mine at what would otherwise be a loss.
[00:22]	DaemonFC[m]	Don't expect that to get better.
[00:24]	DaemonFC[m]	So it's perfect. A speculative bubble that involved money laundering and theft of resources, and people too stupid to realize that they're throwing money at something that's not backed by any sort of regulation and why this makes it inherently unstable.
[00:25]	vZS1_2	You don't need cryptocurrency to do money laundering and theft. USD is enough lol
[00:25]	vZS1_2	It is a bubble though
[00:25]	vZS1_2	Don't know when it will burst but looks like soon
[00:25]	vZS1_2	Maybe in a year?
[00:25]	vZS1_2	Regulations are coming in very fast
[00:27]	DaemonFC[m]	Yes, and Savings Bonds are completely safe.
[00:27]	vZS1_2	I was asked by some people I know to help out with their cryptocurrency operation
[00:27]	vZS1_2	I decided I'd rather spend my time learning things and doing other stuff
[00:27]	DaemonFC[m]	Governments don't necessarily die, and even when they do it's usually after thousands of years.
[00:27]	vZS1_2	I don't know if they made a sizeable profit or not
[00:27]	vZS1_2	Haven't kept in touch for a while
[00:27]	DaemonFC[m]	Most of the world governments are decidedly less stable than the US government.
[00:28]	DaemonFC[m]	That's why they have to pay like, you know, 8 or 9 times more interest on their debt. Russia, for instance. 
[00:29]	vZS1_2	I don't think people really make money from mining anymore
[00:29]	vZS1_2	It's probably algorithmic trading
[00:30]	vZS1_2	You just trade all the different cryptocurrencies and then cash out for fiat at the end of the run
[00:30]	vZS1_2	I think that's literally what's keeping the whole thing alive
[00:30]	DaemonFC[m]	Russia would pay less on their debt than they are now if Navalny was their President.
[00:31]	vZS1_2	Think about it. Why else would you see so many cryptocurrencies in the exchanges?
[00:31]	DaemonFC[m]	Some of the distrust is the 1998 default, but mostly people don't trust Comrade Colonel Putin.
[00:31]	vZS1_2	People must be trading them for each other
[00:31]	DaemonFC[m]	Yes, it spills over into a larger market.
[00:31]	vZS1_2	Bitcoin is just the highest value one
[00:32]	vZS1_2	There's over a hundred of them by now
[00:32]	DaemonFC[m]	And better designed cryptocurrency will eventually be the end of Bitcoin if the governments don't get it first.
[00:32]	vZS1_2	Monero has a pretty good design
[00:32]	DaemonFC[m]	But I need something a little more real.
[00:33]	DaemonFC[m]	I don't like the idea about breaking off hundreds or thousands of dollars and putting it into a system where there are no rules and the legal framework is moving in the wrong direction too.
[00:33]	vZS1_2	I think the privacy coins are the only ones that will survive. They actually allow you to do commerce digitally while maintaining your privacy.
[00:33]	schestowitz	vZS1_2: DaemonFC[m] can you proofread something with me?
[00:33]	techrights-ipfs	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.75   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.28 swarm size (avg): 274.45  
[00:33]	vZS1_2	Sure
[00:33]	XRevan86	DaemonFC[m]: He's only a lieutenant colonel
[00:34]	schestowitz	it's about ibm mostly
[00:34]	schestowitz	I need to come up with a headline that's not inflammatory
[00:35]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: If it's quick.
[00:35]	DaemonFC[m]	Dinner just came out.
[00:35]	schestowitz	Corporations Aren't Communities and Communities Controlled by Corporations Are Fake Communities
[00:35]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: 2 mins
[00:35]	DaemonFC[m]	Okay
[00:36]	vZS1_2	Sounds alright
[00:37]	DaemonFC[m]	BTW schestowitz I got threatened with a permanent ban for saying that those sites recommending credit cards are unethical and using the example of telling people with bankruptcy that they'll likely get approved for a secured card from Citi that says no bankruptcy in the past 2 years.
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[00:37]	DaemonFC[m]	On MyFICO.
[00:38]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2021/01/29/fake-communities-2/
[00:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Arent Communities and Communities Controlled by Corporations Are Fake Communities | Techrights
[00:38]	schestowitz	vZS1_2: http://techrights.org/2021/01/29/fake-communities-2/
[00:38]	schestowitz	i will add 3 photos while you read
[00:38]	schestowitz	will surely contain typos, i did just one pass (while typing)
[00:39]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: what is myfucko?
[00:39]	schestowitz	sounds like a dodgy dating app
[00:39]	DaemonFC[m]	A site ran by FICO that sells people access to the FICO scores.
[00:39]	DaemonFC[m]	Crooked
[00:39]	schestowitz	yeah
[00:39]	schestowitz	fake "my"
[00:39]	schestowitz	"their"
[00:39]	schestowitz	stfu, gtfo, or parrot our bs
[00:40]	schestowitz	you are so "toxic", ryan
[00:40]	schestowitz	interfering with the debt imprisonment treadmill
[00:40]	schestowitz	that let's the usa fake "growth"
[00:40]	schestowitz	speculative, borrows from 50 years forward, retroactively
[00:41]	schestowitz	"home ownership" = rate of people who manage to convince back that over the next 40 years they can actually pay back for the home they supposedly "own"
[00:41]	schestowitz	back->bank
[00:41]	DaemonFC[m]	"An effective strategy is needed"
[00:42]	DaemonFC[m]	For some reason there's a new line after that.
[00:42]	vZS1_2	s/wear a mast/wear a mask/
[00:42]	schestowitz	missing image
[00:42]	schestowitz	I am adding them
[00:42]	DaemonFC[m]	"wear a mast"
[00:45]	vZS1_2	s/protect people emotions/protect people's emotions/
[00:47]	zoobab	BTW Hedge Funds are also behind patent trolls
[00:47]	DaemonFC[m]	Protect people emotions should be people's emotions.
[00:47]	DaemonFC[m]	He's getting them before me.
[00:47]	DaemonFC[m]	Phone. Agh.
[00:49]	DaemonFC[m]	IBM has protected their software from forking by making it very large and interdependent.
[00:50]	DaemonFC[m]	That subverts the notion of breaking it off and working on a part with a small group.
[00:50]	DaemonFC[m]	systemd has grown bigger than Linux, I think. How do you fork any of that?
[00:51]	DaemonFC[m]	Maybe in the sense of cherry picking patches and then throwing it out and reading, but that's all.
[00:53]	vZS1_2	You don't fork any of it. You throw it all away. (:
[00:53]	DaemonFC[m]	uEFI having an open source implementation just helps companies make software that takes away freedom more reliable.
[00:54]	vZS1_2	I found a nice little group of people working on getting rid of Red Hat software from GNU/Linux. Making progress.
[00:54]	DaemonFC[m]	Other than being useful as a compatibility payload for Coreboot, that doesn't help users at all.
[00:55]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: I have added quotes from you
[00:55]	schestowitz	made changes, added photos
[00:55]	schestowitz	Now I'll proofread one last time, but it's shaping up: http://techrights.org/2021/01/29/fake-communities-2/
[00:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Arent Communities and Communities Controlled by Corporations Are Fake Communities | Techrights
[00:56]	schestowitz	looks better, not "wall of text" now
[00:56]	DaemonFC[m]	Oops I made a mistake. I meant to say rebasing but my auto-correct got me.
[00:57]	DaemonFC[m]	Not reading. Although I guess you can technically read systemd it's not particularly readable the last I looked at it.
[00:57]	schestowitz	where should it say rebasing?
[00:57]	DaemonFC[m]	It seems like they avoid commenting in some cases to make it hard to know why they did something.
[00:57]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz, where it says reading.
[00:58]	schestowitz	corrected
[00:58]	DaemonFC[m]	The truly frightening thing about systemd is I've seen open source code from Microsoft that has more comments. Presumably someone wanted to know what they did later 
[00:59]	DaemonFC[m]	Or maybe source code comments aren't good for IBM so they store them elsewhere.
[00:59]	DaemonFC[m]	For internal use.
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[01:01]	DaemonFC[m]	https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/src/machine/machine-dbus.c
[01:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemd/machine-dbus.c at main systemd/systemd GitHub
[01:01]	DaemonFC[m]	Seriously, look at this shit.
[01:01]	DaemonFC[m]	Do you see anyone stopping to comment on what the hell is going on anywhere?
[01:02]	vZS1_2	They probably strip all the comments out for the public repo.
[01:02]	DaemonFC[m]	A lot of the files look like they've gone through and deliberately stripped comments out.
[01:02]	vZS1_2	Remember, clarity is against their business model.
[01:03]	DaemonFC[m]	This is close to what Nvidia was doing with NV.
[01:03]	vZS1_2	I got so fed up I am literally stripping down everything. Dedicating a few months to it. I'm throwing out all the Red Hat crap from userspace.
[01:04]	vZS1_2	I got rid of everything. Just need to work on throwing out udev. Some manual work involved there.
[01:05]	techrights-bot	Corporations Arent Communities and Communities Controlled by Corporations Are Fake Communities s http://techrights.org/2021/01/29/fake-communities-2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #IBM
[01:05]	vZS1_2	I didn't realise how much Red Hat is in Debian until I actually went through with a migration process to another distribution.
[01:05]	vZS1_2	Debian is well and truly fucked.
[01:06]	vZS1_2	You might as well just call it RedHatOS now
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[01:08]	schestowitz	wow, grep says since Sunday techrights had 97k hits on webm files
[01:08]	schestowitz	that's in 5.5 days
[01:08]	schestowitz	e.g. 2.3k on the iis video
[01:08]	vZS1_2	Let's get to 100k
[01:09]	schestowitz	weeks ago it was half that
[01:09]	schestowitz	had I not battled BT, there would be more videos online
[01:09]	schestowitz	but we'll have our revenge on BT and cost them lots of money ("manhours" at least)
[01:09]	schestowitz	never mind negative publicity
[01:09]	vZS1_2	People probably relate to your BT articles as well
[01:10]	schestowitz	I did not publish them in TR
[01:10]	schestowitz	it's too personal and almost OT
[01:10]	vZS1_2	You've mentioned it in passing a few times
[01:10]	schestowitz	I did, but we will need to focus on the real nature of what happened, not that we know
[01:10]	vZS1_2	People who follow TR may also follow your personal site
[01:10]	schestowitz	it's clearly retaliatory
[01:10]	schestowitz	not against torrent
[01:10]	schestowitz	or copyright infringment
[01:11]	schestowitz	just running an ipfs node I feed my articles into
[01:11]	vZS1_2	Well, even torrents aren't to blame. If you were using them instead of ipfs the fundamental issue remains the same
[01:11]	vZS1_2	You aren't breaking any laws with your P2P traffic
[01:11]	vZS1_2	Just sharing articles
[01:12]	schestowitz	exactly
[01:12]	schestowitz	and they punish not only me
[01:12]	schestowitz	but other tenants
[01:12]	schestowitz	the wife
[01:12]	vZS1_2	I could write an article with my keyboard or bash somebody on the head with it. By that logic all keyboards should be illegal. lol
[01:13]	MinceR	don't give them ideas
[01:13]	vZS1_2	lmao
[01:13]	schestowitz	imagine if I had shared housing
[01:13]	schestowitz	like council housing
[01:13]	schestowitz	and they thottled down other tenants, like TENFOLD
[01:14]	schestowitz	They do not slow down IPFS alone
[01:14]	schestowitz	they slow down ALL traffic
[01:14]	schestowitz	latency increased tenflod
[01:14]	schestowitz	bandwidth rates likewise
[01:14]	techrights-bot	IBM, Red Hat, Fedora, #Systemd and Oracles RHEL Clone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147051 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #IBM
[01:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM, Red Hat, Fedora, Systemd and Oracle's RHEL Clone | Tux Machines
[01:16]	schestowitz	> [...]
[01:16]	schestowitz	>>> But we do need to fight this
[01:16]	schestowitz	>>> traffic discrimination somehow; it's going to be a very
[01:16]	schestowitz	>>> long fight though because the powers-that-are don't want
[01:16]	schestowitz	>>> people to freely distribute data over the internet.
[01:16]	schestowitz	> 
[01:16]	schestowitz	> Yes, it will likely be long.  However it is a very important right to
[01:16]	schestowitz	> fight for or maintain.  If there are any UK politicians who include net
[01:16]	schestowitz	> neutrality in their platform, they may be of help or can provide pointers.
[01:16]	schestowitz	shared over pgp
[01:16]	schestowitz	but not sensitive
[01:18]	vZS1_2	There are lots of other groups apart from politicians as well
[01:18]	vZS1_2	Gaming communities share mods via torrents
[01:19]	vZS1_2	A lot of people can only share large files over torrents
[01:19]	vZS1_2	They aren't tech-savvy enough for things like SSH
[01:21]	vZS1_2	For example, most chat platforms have file limits of around 10MB
[01:21]	vZS1_2	But you can share a magnet link or torrent file that points to a torrent of arbitrary size
[01:21]	vZS1_2	Email attachments for most email services have a hard cap
[01:22]	vZS1_2	Same workaround with torrents
[01:22]	vZS1_2	alias torrents with ipfs
[01:22]	vZS1_2	But ipfs has nowhere near the usage as torrents
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[01:40]	techrights-bot	#Microsoft and #Google : Corporate Ethics and Profitable Delusions s http://techrights.org/2021/01/29/profitable-delusions/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux
[01:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and Google: Corporate Ethics and Profitable Delusions | Techrights
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[01:42]	schestowitz	Mogz:
[01:42]	schestowitz	> Thanks! :-) And, yes, challenging times we're all needing to power through.
[01:43]	schestowitz	Re: Press Release: Regen Helps Microsoft Achieve Climate Goal With Historic Carbon Credit Sale in Australia
[01:43]	schestowitz	Microsoft PR agents now spamming ME :0-)
[01:43]	schestowitz	greenwashing lies
[01:45]	schestowitz	I decided to respond
[01:45]	schestowitz	"
[01:45]	schestowitz	Marketing bunnies, please just get lost and kill yourselves.
[01:45]	schestowitz	You destroy the planet.
[01:45]	schestowitz	"
[01:47]	techrights-bot	"Kinda like the Electronic Frontier Foundation which became a pure Washington lobby shill when they moved from Cambridge, MA to Washington DC and were run by Jerry Bermann, whose since been caught dipping into the funds of the other lobbying firms we ran. Mitch Kapor, the founder of the EFF, was lobbying to run the department of commerce under Bill Clinton, whom he had supported and get elected The EFF receptionist, a
[01:47]	techrights-bot	torney Mike Godwin back when they were both *very* active on alt.sex.bondage, had a much better chance of "serving under" Bill Clinton than Mitch Kapor ever did. Rita later ran an amusing website about breast feeding with nipple rings, which I'm sure Bill would have loved." https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=18142298&cid=61004768
[01:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Google Deletes Nearly 100,000 Negative Reviews of Robinhood App - Slashdot
[01:51]	techrights-bot	"The 720 patent is related to digital data sharing and has been asserted against Vudu." = #swpats = #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/29/crandall-technologies-patent-challenged
[01:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Crandall Technologies patent challenged Unified Patents
[01:53]	techrights-bot	#swpats #extortion racket that also targets #freesw with #fakepatents on software is under scrutiny https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/29/velos-media-reexamination-request-granted #ptab
[01:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Velos Media reexamination request granted Unified Patents
[01:56]	schestowitz	tuxmachines came under a massive attack again. Like thousands of requests on a 2+ MB page, all in the timespan of seconds. Maybe another attempt to crash the DB, but at least this time I was awake.
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[02:05]	schestowitz	blocked the offending requests
[02:05]	schestowitz	hundreds per second
[02:07]	techrights-bot	#tuxmachines under DDOS attack again. Mostly a problem if we're all asleep at the time, though the attackers mostly waste their time as that's very rare.
[02:08]	techrights-bot	A discussion about the state of #freesoftware communities, which are increasingly besieged by deeply monopolistic corporations looking to exhaust (or brain-drain) the workforce so as to take over the Commons, typically for power and profit http://techrights.org/2021/01/29/fake-communities-2/
[02:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Corporations Arent Communities and Communities Controlled by Corporations Are Fake Communities | Techrights
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[02:09]	techrights-bot	"Even in the face of Microsoft being among the top GOP donors between the election and the riot on January 6th, them loyally empowering the likes of DHS (ICE and CBP) and the DOD with their software and services, and them amassing an internal gun club/NRA donor with a 5 figure member-base representing a plurality of white nationalists within their company, and them firing a Jewish employee for referring to white natio
[02:09]	techrights-bot	ocially purposed." http://techrights.org/2021/01/29/profitable-delusions/
[02:10]	techrights-bot	"Since both #Slackel and #Zenwalk are intended to be %100 compatible with the same Slackware Current, IN THEORY, it should be possible to add Slackels repos to Zenwalk and vice-versa." https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2021/01/01/335/
[02:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysdfree.wordpress.com | Slackel and Zenwalk (2021), report by Oneirosopher | systemd-free linux community
[02:11]	techrights-bot	#Zenwalk #Slackel #Salix - #Slackware without #systemd ? | systemd-free linux community https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2021/01/02/334/
[02:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysdfree.wordpress.com | Zenwalk Slackel Salix Slackware without systemd? | systemd-free linux community
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[02:19]	techrights-bot	Wine 6.1 released beginning another year of improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147048#comment-28022 #gnu #linux
[02:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games amd Wine 6.1 Status Update | Tux Machines
[02:22]	techrights-bot	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147052 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[02:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
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[02:27]	techrights-bot	Announcing #Istio 1.7.7 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147053 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #deletegithub
[02:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing Istio 1.7.7 | Tux Machines
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[02:37]	techrights-bot	"In spite of the fiercest proponent of the UPC say, the UPC is not for SMEs, and even the present blogger agrees with it. The UPC is a machinery set up in order to crush SMEs by big industry helped by wilful lawyers which can at the same time make the big buck." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/25/upc-to-be-or-not-to-be/
[02:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | UPC: to be or not to be? - Kluwer Patent Blog
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[02:49]	techrights-bot	#ODROIDGO Super is an $80 #Ubuntu -powered handheld game system http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147054 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[02:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ODROID-GO Super is an $80 Ubuntu-powered handheld game system | Tux Machines
[02:50]	techrights-bot	#EasyOS Buster 2.6.1 released for x86_64 PC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147055 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[02:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS Buster 2.6.1 released for x86_64 PC | Tux Machines
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[03:04]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #CommonDreams 'Roadmap to Freedom': #Jayapal and #AOC Lead Progressive Dems With Visionary #Immigration Reform Bill https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/01/28/roadmap-freedom-jayapal-and-aoc-lead-progressive-dems-visionary-immigration-reform
[03:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Roadmap to Freedom': Jayapal and AOC Lead Progressive Dems With Visionary Immigration Reform Bill | Common Dreams News
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[08:28]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #Reason #ElizabethWarren and the SEC Should Let the #GameStop Lulz Go On https://reason.com/2021/01/28/elizabeth-warren-and-the-sec-should-let-the-gamestop-lulz-go-on/
[08:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elizabeth Warren and the SEC Should Let the GameStop Lulz Go On Reason.com
[08:28]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #JacobinMag The #GameStop Bubble Is a Lesson in the Absurdity and Uselessness of the Stock Market https://jacobinmag.com/2021/01/gamestop-stock-market-reddit/
[08:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | The GameStop Bubble Is a Lesson in the Absurdity and Uselessness of the Stock Market
[08:28]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #NewYorkTimes The #GameStop Reckoning Was a Long Time Coming https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/technology/gamestop-stock.html
[08:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | The GameStop Reckoning Was a Long Time Coming - The New York Times
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[08:41]	techrights-bot	#Microsoft #Windows TCO: #YLE #Health [Cracked] therapy centre #Vastaamo goes into liquidation https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/hacked_therapy_centre_vastaamo_goes_into_liquidation/11762655
[08:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hacked therapy centre Vastaamo goes into liquidation | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi
[08:42]	techrights-bot	"No matter which service we use, theres always a risk that they will turn off the light one day and not come back or just change the rules or licensing terms that would prevent us from staying there." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/01/28/what-if-github-is-the-devil/
[08:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What if GitHub is the devil? | daniel.haxx.se
[08:43]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #SiliconAngle #Monopolies #Facebook reportedly preparing to file an #antitrust lawsuit against #Apple https://siliconangle.com/2021/01/28/facebook-reportedly-preparing-file-antitrust-lawsuit-apple/
[08:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook reportedly preparing to file antitrust suit against Apple - SiliconANGLE
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[08:44]	techrights-bot	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
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[08:48]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #SequoiaPGP #Privacy #Surveillance sq, #Sequoia PGP's CLI, Released https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2021/01/26/202101-sq-release/
[08:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sequoia-pgp.org | Blog - sq, Sequoia PGP's CLI, Released
[08:48]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #PrivacyInternational #Privacy #Surveillance Open Letter to #Facebook and #Google https://privacyinternational.org/advocacy/4410/open-letter-facebook-and-google
[08:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-privacyinternational.org | Open Letter to Facebook and Google | Privacy International
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[09:19]	vZS1	I think I read somewhere that Putin is working to bring down all the tech giants in Russia.
[09:21]	vZS1	Probably replacing them with things he's got more control over
[09:21]	schestowitz	they may be seen as a threat
[09:21]	schestowitz	BUT...
[09:21]	schestowitz	I read the same about Xi/China
[09:22]	schestowitz	trying to break down chinese tech firms
[09:22]	schestowitz	to keep them under his control
[09:22]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TheVerge #Censorship Facebook content moderators in Ireland demand work-from-home rights https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/29/22256232/facebook-content-moderators-ireland-work-from-home-rights-coronavirus
[09:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook content moderators in Ireland demand work-from-home rights - The Verge
[09:24]	vZS1	Can't count on them to do any good though
[09:25]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TheVerge #Censorship Facebooks Oversight Board wants your feedback on whether the company was right to ban Trump https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/29/22256821/facebook-trump-ban-oversight-board-public-feedback
[09:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebooks Oversight Board wants your feedback on whether the company was right to ban Trump - The Verge
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[09:26]	vZS1	Backpedaling because of the public outcry
[09:27]	vZS1	#abandonsocialcontrolmedia
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[09:36]	schestowitz	vZS1: I have a good article on the way...
[09:36]	schestowitz	if you can help fact-check..
[09:36]	vZS1	Sure
[09:36]	vZS1	Need to get on the computer
[09:43]	schestowitz	related to BT and other things
[09:43]	schestowitz	you will see
[09:53]	schestowitz	vZS1: first draft http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/unjust-system/
[09:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Theres No Lack of Money, Theres Organised Looting | Techrights
[09:54]	schestowitz	I can add quotes, change sentences still, it's seconds-old
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[10:00]	vZS1_2	schestowitz: s/beggers/beggars/
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[10:04]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TerenceEden The unreasonable effectiveness of simple #HTML https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2021/01/the-unreasonable-effectiveness-of-simple-html/ "But the GOV.UK pages are written in simple HTML. They are designed to be lightweight and will work even on rubbish browsers."
[10:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shkspr.mobi | The unreasonable effectiveness of simple HTML Terence Edens Blog
[10:04]	techrights-bot	"This is a directory of websites that primarily stick with simple, marked up, hyperlinked text." https://sjmulder.nl/en/textonly.html
[10:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sjmulder.nl | Text-only websites
[10:05]	vZS1_2	gov.uk has to meet real accessibility standards
[10:05]	vZS1_2	Not some bogus "UX"
[10:05]	vZS1_2	So that might explain why it isn't a complete disaster
[10:06]	schestowitz	I made some pages for them
[10:06]	schestowitz	no JS
[10:06]	schestowitz	they also modeled FSA based on that
[10:06]	schestowitz	simple form, expandable with css
[10:07]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #ITWire #Monopolies #Google directly appealing to #Australia Google Search users over News Media code https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/google-directly-appealing-to-australian-google-search-users-over-news-media-code.html
[10:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Google directly appealing to Australian Google Search users over News Media code
[10:07]	schestowitz	of course we lost FSA as a client after getting loads of idiots on board. Also see: Intel
[10:07]	schestowitz	and it didn't help when Microsoft cult started infesting FSA itself
[10:07]	vZS1_2	Don't see any other typos in the article
[10:07]	vZS1_2	But I'm not fully awake
[10:07]	vZS1_2	So beware
[10:07]	schestowitz	even outsourcing gov emails to that criminal 'company'
[10:08]	schestowitz	vZS1_2: I will proofread also...
[10:08]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TheHill #Monopolies #Facebook developing tool that lets advertisers avoid certain topics https://thehill.com/policy/technology/536460-facebook-developing-tool-that-lets-advertisers-avoid-certain-topics demonetising people who expose #corruption and "bad things"
[10:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook developing tool that lets advertisers avoid certain topics | TheHill
[10:09]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #CreativeCommons Say Hello to CC #Belgium ! https://creativecommons.org/2021/01/29/say-hello-to-cc-belgium/
[10:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Say Hello to CC Belgium! - Creative Commons
[10:09]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #CreativeCommons Welcome CC #Morocco to the Open Community! https://creativecommons.org/2021/01/29/welcome-cc-morocco/
[10:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Welcome CC Morocco to the Open Community! - Creative Commons
[10:10]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights More #YTS Users Settle Piracy Claims After More Legal Pressure https://torrentfreak.com/more-yts-users-settle-piracy-claims-after-legal-pressure/
[10:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More YTS Users Settle Piracy Claims After More Legal Pressure * TorrentFreak
[10:10]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights # Former Pirate Scanlation Site Fakku Wants #Clownflare To Unmask #Hentaicafe Operator https://torrentfreak.com/former-pirate-scanlation-site-fakku-wants-cloudflare-to-unmask-hentai-cafe-operator-210129/
[10:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Former Pirate Scanlation Site Fakku Wants Cloudflare To Unmask Hentai.cafe Operator * TorrentFreak
[10:12]	vZS1_2	Let the weebs enjoy their animated pornography in peace.
[10:12]	vZS1_2	Most of it is made by people who publish the torrents for free. They just want exposure for their work.
[10:13]	vZS1_2	The artists participate in the community because they get more readers this way. Which leads to people finding out about the artists and supporting them financially.
[10:14]	vZS1_2	Most of it isn't "piracy".
[10:14]	vZS1_2	Yet more anti-P2P FUD.
[10:15]	vZS1_2	You'll find a lot of the same stuff published by the artists on sites like Deviantart
[10:16]	vZS1_2	But they use torrents because it's the easiest way to share files (especially large ones) with the whole world.
[10:16]	vZS1_2	Because sites like Deviantart can censor them as well. But the other smaller torrent index sites don't usually participate in censorship.
[10:19]	vZS1_2	Their options for video sharing in particular are severely limited. So they turned to torrents out of necessity.
[10:20]	vZS1_2	And found out that P2P is the best way to share files :)
[10:20]	techrights-bot	Theres No Lack of Money, Theres Organised #Looting s http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/unjust-system/ #Techrights #classwar #lootingByTheRich
[10:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Theres No Lack of Money, Theres Organised Looting | Techrights
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[10:21]	schestowitz	[10:12] <vZS1_2> Most of it is made by people who publish the torrents for free. They just want exposure for their work.
[10:21]	schestowitz	yes, they dodge monopolistic channels
[10:21]	schestowitz	like pop music
[10:21]	schestowitz	where MBAs define what is and is not |popular|
[10:22]	vZS1_2	Yep
[10:23]	vZS1_2	There are literally tens of millions of real users for these pornography sites
[10:23]	vZS1_2	Nobody will fake seeding so many torrents
[10:24]	schestowitz	surfing porn is now risky
[10:24]	schestowitz	esp. for activists
[10:24]	schestowitz	whom authorities look for "dirt" on
[10:24]	vZS1_2	GIAFAM hates these people because they do not use their disservices
[10:24]	schestowitz	Edward exposed some evidence to that effect, too
[10:25]	schestowitz	vZS1_2: centos is "piracy"
[10:25]	schestowitz	people who don't wannt pay
[10:25]	vZS1_2	Unless you're one of them. Then you can jack off in a Zoom call. lol
[10:25]	schestowitz	how dare they?
[10:25]	schestowitz	I mean, GNU was developed by IBM
[10:25]	schestowitz	isn't zoom amazon by hosting (AWS)?
[10:26]	vZS1_2	No idea
[10:26]	schestowitz	I think "SHIT" (known by most people as "Slack") is AWs
[10:26]	schestowitz	they imperial internet backbones
[10:26]	schestowitz	to push people to clown
[10:26]	schestowitz	for "performance"
[10:26]	schestowitz	AWS, clownflare etc.
[10:26]	schestowitz	and p2p is throttled
[10:27]	schestowitz	"no money in it"
[10:27]	vZS1_2	The P2P community as a whole is very anti-clown :)
[10:27]	schestowitz	"no >control<"
[10:27]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2019/07/06/love-is-not-about-control/
[10:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Azure Running GNU/Linux Isnt About Love But About Control | Techrights
[10:27]	vZS1_2	We've been doing REAL distributed computing before these GIAFAM imbeciles stuffed it into their buzzword list
[10:28]	schestowitz	this weekend I have some spare time
[10:28]	vZS1_2	On computers that belong to ordinary people
[10:28]	schestowitz	I will start by scanning that letter is a photo is not clear enough
[10:28]	schestowitz	I won't retype it
[10:28]	schestowitz	then I need to think carefully how to proceed, I have a deadline next week (imposed by them)
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[10:36]	vZS1_2	Are the drivers packaged by Debian?
[10:36]	vZS1_2	I have a separate laptop which I use for my printer+scanner. Because I have to get binary blobs to use them.
[10:37]	vZS1_2	Second hand laptop. Bought it just for that purpose.
[10:37]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #Security The Taxman Cometh for ID Theft Victims https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/01/the-taxman-cometh-for-id-theft-victims/
[10:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | The Taxman Cometh for ID Theft Victims Krebs on Security
[10:39]	schestowitz	vZS1_2: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210126/07200146120/police-chief-demands-holes-encryption-because-some-cops-decided-to-participate-dc-insurrection.shtml
[10:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Police Chief Demands Holes In Encryption Because Some Cops Decided To Participate In The DC Insurrection | Techdirt
[10:39]	vZS1_2	lol
[10:40]	schestowitz	vZS1_2: wife's debian buster laptop already had hp drivers
[10:40]	vZS1_2	"holes in encryption"
[10:40]	schestowitz	I think it's not a distro issue
[10:40]	schestowitz	but choice of printer
[10:40]	schestowitz	'encryption'
[10:40]	vZS1_2	Oh I was just asking a general question about Debian.
[10:40]	schestowitz	MadeInGoogle(R)
[10:40]	vZS1_2	You usually get drivers packaged under the non-free tree
[10:40]	schestowitz	remember when linux removed google crypto?
[10:41]	schestowitz	the one that was notorious and known to be crap?
[10:41]	schestowitz	but "efficient" for mobile?
[10:41]	schestowitz	let's save some battery life and  make  banking on 'phones' just safe 'enough'..
[10:41]	vZS1_2	They can't engineer security if their life depended on it
[10:41]	vZS1_2	What else can you expect from an organisation dedicated to backdoors and surveillance?
[10:42]	schestowitz	me? expect/
[10:42]	schestowitz	military budget
[10:42]	schestowitz	MOARF MOAR
[10:42]	schestowitz	"coz china is coming!"
[10:42]	vZS1_2	Putout
[10:42]	schestowitz	More UEFI 'secure' boot too
[10:42]	schestowitz	coz china, according to nsa, tried backdooring the bios
[10:42]	schestowitz	"we'll show them by beating them to it"
[10:42]	vZS1_2	lol
[10:43]	schestowitz	but we call it "SECURE"
[10:43]	schestowitz	Germany objected to it
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[10:43]	schestowitz	Germany sells lots of machines to china
[10:43]	schestowitz	and refuses to participate in the anti-China BS
[10:43]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UEFI
[10:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI - Techrights
[10:43]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2012/11/29/uefi-insecurity/
[10:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI Apologists Versus Germanys Government Judgment on UEFI Insecurity | Techrights
[10:43]	schestowitz	apropos: http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/
[10:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights
[10:43]	schestowitz	security is crime
[10:44]	schestowitz	crime is security
[10:44]	schestowitz	better leave security to the state and the police then
[10:44]	schestowitz	and to bill
[10:44]	schestowitz	who was arrested, but not in almost 50 years
[10:45]	vZS1_2	TR is very popular with the Poles I've been corresponding with btw. I send them stuff from TR relevant to their work.
[10:45]	vZS1_2	Especially the censorship stuff
[10:46]	vZS1_2	And corporate control
[10:46]	schestowitz	excellent, thank you
[10:46]	schestowitz	Mogz will do more art for us soon
[10:46]	vZS1_2	Yw
[10:47]	schestowitz	I'm going to start making videos now, just caught up with lots of news you can find in the #boycottnovell-social  channel
[10:47]	schestowitz	mostly political in nature
[10:47]	vZS1_2	I'm going to do some reading now. So won't really be looking at IRC often.
[10:47]	vZS1_2	Weekend is reading time
[10:48]	schestowitz	good
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[10:59]	mjg59	Speck was in-kernel for a sufficiently short space of time that I'm not aware that any Android devices used it
[10:59]	mjg59	The pushback was sufficient that it was replaced with HPolyC
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[11:00]	mjg59	(While I work for Google, I was not involved in any way with any of these decisions)
[11:01]	mjg59	So I don't really know what the argument is here
[11:03]	mjg59	It's understandable that people would not be inclined to trust NSA-derived algorithims, but in the end what happened was that those algorithms were rejected
[11:28]	schestowitz	not becayue Google withdrew
[11:28]	schestowitz	*because
[11:29]	schestowitz	Fake security is a GAFAM thing
[11:29]	schestowitz	government and military contractors want that, except for themselves
[11:29]	schestowitz	a MONOPOLY on privacy and authonomy
[11:29]	schestowitz	*autonomy
[11:30]	schestowitz	'security' staff of Google should be laughed out the door, along with their "secure" browser and stuff
[11:30]	vZS1_2	*clears throat*
[11:30]	schestowitz	and "Secure" boot of Intel(ligence) agencies
[11:30]	vZS1_2	`$ cd /usr/src/linux`
[11:30]	vZS1_2	*grab source*
[11:30]	vZS1_2	`$ make menuconfig`
[11:31]	vZS1_2	*remove all GIAFAM modules*
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[11:31]	vZS1_2	`$ make && make install modules_install`
[11:31]	vZS1_2	Hey presto
[11:31]	karolyi[m]	<schestowitz "Fake security is a GAFAM thing"> what's a GAFAM?
[11:31]	vZS1_2	New kernel
[11:31]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #meduza #russia #Roskomnadzor calls on #Google to lift restrictions on #YouTube videos containing the Russian national anthem https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/01/29/roskomnadzor-calls-on-google-to-lift-restrictions-on-youtube-videos-containing-the-russian-national-anthem
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[11:32]		*psydroid wonders what the chances are of FATA MORGANA leaving real community developed software alone now that they have full control over GNU/Linux and much of what runs on top
[11:32]	vZS1_2	psydroid: I think most people overestimate how difficult it is to build a new kernel.
[11:32]	vZS1_2	They try to scare people away
[11:32]	vZS1_2	It's really simple with `$ make menuconfig`
[11:32]	vZS1_2	You have an ncurses menu spelling everything out for you
[11:33]	vZS1_2	It's easier than writing Bash scripts.
[11:33]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Navalny Its good to be the president Meduza spoke to contractors who helped build Vladimir Putins alleged seaside palace. Also, new blueprints reveal a subterranean fortress, multiple aqua-discos, and more. https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/01/29/it-s-good-to-be-the-president
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[11:33]	vZS1_2	You don't even need to know how to program to build a kernel image
[11:33]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Navalny Moscow court places Alexey Navalnys associates under house arrest https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/01/29/moscow-court-places-alexey-navalny-s-associates-under-house-arrest
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[11:34]	psydroid	my biggest worry is having all that GAFAM (I prefer FATA MORGANA as an acronym as it's clearer) modules there in the first place, but I guess Linux is "too big to fail" now
[11:34]	karolyi[m]	I would still advise to do it on a virtual machine before you do in production
[11:34]	psydroid	s/that/those/
[11:34]	vZS1_2	At least you can opt out of a lot of that garbage
[11:35]	vZS1_2	Forget about VMs
[11:35]	vZS1_2	break things
[11:35]	vZS1_2	you will really learn that way
[11:35]	techrights-bot	#Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147061 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/30/#latest
[11:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[11:36]	vZS1_2	Production has nothing to do with any of this
[11:36]	vZS1_2	I taught people that don't know how to program to build their own kernels.
[11:36]	vZS1_2	It's not hard
[11:37]	karolyi[m]	yes, break your production machine
[11:37]	karolyi[m]	the only good way
[11:37]	vZS1_2	Only an idiot like you will experiment on their production machines
[11:37]	karolyi[m]	ah, the old ad hominems from the turbosperg
[11:37]	techrights-bot	This week in KDE: Getting ready for Plasma 5.21 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147060 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE
[11:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Getting ready for Plasma 5.21 | Tux Machines
[11:38]	vZS1_2	Keep crying
[11:38]	karolyi[m]	far from it, you entertain me
[11:38]	karolyi[m]	keep going at it
[11:38]	vZS1_2	I have better things to do
[11:39]	karolyi[m]	... and nothing of value is lost
[11:39]	techrights-bot	Save Time and Effort with these Excellent Free Batch Image Processors http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147059 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw
[11:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Save Time and Effort with these Excellent Free Batch Image Processors | Tux Machines
[11:39]	vZS1_2	psydroid: they included all sorts of weird USB modules recently
[11:40]	vZS1_2	Including some sort of support for lights
[11:40]	techrights-bot	Announcing #LibreOffice New Generation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147058
[11:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing LibreOffice New Generation | Tux Machines
[11:40]	vZS1_2	psydroid: are they standardising how lights work on USB devices now? lol
[11:41]	psydroid	vZS1_2: that must have something to do with "smart" lights lol
[11:41]	vZS1_2	lmao
[11:42]	schestowitz	I am going to do a video about Red Hat and NSA
[11:42]	schestowitz	as we did lots of articles about it in the wake of Snowden leaks
[11:43]	vZS1_2	Cool. I wasn't around when you did that. Look forward to it.
[11:43]	karolyi[m]	oh, so libreoffice tries to attract young people by handing out digital participation trophies? the absolute state
[11:44]	vZS1_2	The troll is attacking libreoffice now.
[11:44]	vZS1_2	*grabs popcorn*
[11:44]	karolyi[m]	the sperg is strawmanning again
[11:48]	vZS1_2	psydroid, schestowtiz: There's a whole section in the kernel config menu called "Google Firmware Drivers".
[11:48]	vZS1_2	Glad they put it there to make it easy to throw out. lol
[11:49]	psydroid	vZS1_2: which FATA MORGANA did this troll come from?
[11:50]	psydroid	I guess they really don't like what we talk about here and what is written on TR
[11:51]	vZS1_2	I have no clue mate
[11:51]	psydroid	"runs Windows, talks about LibreOffice in a condescending way"
[11:51]	psydroid	could be Microshaft?
[11:52]	vZS1_2	Possibly
[11:52]	karolyi[m]	psydroid: lol, did you join the smearing club? paranoia is sticky it seems. I work for myself
[11:53]	karolyi[m]	as for linux kernel compilation, I haven't been compiling it for I don't know how long, maybe 10 years or so, my server is FreeBSD, and locally I go with generic linux kernels
[11:54]	karolyi[m]	but still, if anyone wants to compile a linux kernel, I'd give it a try somewhere first where it's not dangerous, for example a virtual machine
[11:55]	psydroid	compiling a kernel can happen anywhere and if you want to give it a try you can also do that anywhere
[11:55]	vZS1_2	psydroid: They don't want people to learn how to work on real hardware
[11:55]	psydroid	obviously you wouldn't do that on a production machine that can absolutely not go down
[11:55]	karolyi[m]	that's what I was talking about
[11:56]	karolyi[m]	before you're confident enough that it will work, it's better to give it a try somewhere safe
[11:57]	psydroid	vZS1_2: I would say the Linux kernel sources are already convoluted enough not to want to get involved, but it is a valuable skill to compile a kernel and run it for testing and debugging purposes
[11:58]	psydroid	that's how we got involved in the first place
[11:58]	vZS1_2	psydroid: the devs made it really easy to compile a kernel though. You don't even need to know how to program to do it.
[11:58]	vZS1_2	You just tweak some menu options and run make
[11:59]	psydroid	yes, I just carry my working kernel configs forward from one version to the next
[11:59]	vZS1_2	Yeah. 
● Jan 30
[12:00]	vZS1_2	For those that don't know, once you're done with the menu config stage, you get to export the config as a ".config" file.
[12:00]	vZS1_2	Just a simple file that the make process will take instructions from
[12:00]	vZS1_2	Defines what your kernel build is going to be
[12:00]	vZS1_2	Simple
[12:00]	vZS1_2	No bloated bullshit
[12:00]	vZS1_2	No IDE bullshit
[12:02]	vZS1_2	psydroid: if GIAFAM could help it, they'd plop an multi-GB "UX" on top. And obfuscate the hell out of the process.
[12:02]	vZS1_2	Just to prevent people from building a kernel easily (like it is now).
[12:03]	vZS1_2	Simplicity is their enemy
[12:03]	vZS1_2	They can't get people to pay for things they know how to do
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[12:27]	schestowitz	38-minute video
[12:27]	schestowitz	I thought 10 would be enough
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[12:30]	psydroid	yes, they want to profit from people not knowing that they've essentially turned GNU/Linux into a new (nominally free, but practically proprietary) UNIX
[12:30]	psydroid	"don't need to compile kernels, don't have to use the command line, don't need to know anything"
[12:31]	psydroid	just be a user and your soul will be redeemed
[12:32]	schestowitz	fake-encryption.webm
[12:33]	schestowitz	240mb
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[13:35]	techrights-bot	"Dictators and wannabe dictators, the category I put Trump in, are quite pathetic once the infrastructure that elevates and supports them crumbles." https://boingboing.net/2021/01/28/nobodys-off-the-hook.html
[13:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Nobody's off the hook | Boing Boing
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[13:37]	schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/l8j2g3/no_software_company_has_been_quite_as/
[13:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | "No software company has been quite as collaborative with the NSA as Microsoft has" : WayOfTheBern
[13:38]	techrights-bot	We need to adopt technical measures to fight back against an increasingly unjust system where a rapidly-decreasing number of people control almost everything http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/unjust-system/
[13:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Theres No Lack of Money, Theres Organised Looting | Techrights
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[13:46]	techrights-bot	[Meme] Candidate Campinos is Not President #Campinos http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/meme-candidate-campinos-is-not-president-campinos/ #epo #corruption #corruption
[13:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Candidate Campinos is Not President Campinos | Techrights
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[13:55]	techrights-bot	#SUEPO Will Challenge Retribution Against Staff That Went on Strike to Protest Illegalities at the #EPO http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/epo-retribution-and-reprisal/ #europe #unionbusting #strike
[13:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUEPO Will Challenge Retribution Against Staff That Went on Strike to Protest Illegalities at the EPO | Techrights
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[14:26]	techrights-bot	#FakeSecurity is Still a Real Problem, Even in the #GNU / #Linux (and #BSD ) Spheres http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/ #security
[14:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights
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[14:47]	DVulgaris	Google just booted Element (the reference/flagship Matrix client) off of gplay
[14:47]	DVulgaris	This censorship BS is getting out of hand, very quickly
[14:48]	schestowitz	yup
[14:48]	schestowitz	good for free software
[14:48]	schestowitz	except:
[14:48]	schestowitz	element itself is freesw
[14:48]	schestowitz	but this can highlight the need to dodge monopoly
[14:48]	schestowitz	github also deletes lOads of freesw
[14:49]	schestowitz	that only makes headlines when the project is high-profile like yotutube-dl
[14:49]	DVulgaris	That's why I've personally stopped using gh
[14:49]	schestowitz	DVulgaris: do you have a link to report/
[14:49]	schestowitz	?
[14:49]	schestowitz	Would love to spread the word and know the details are verified
[14:49]	DVulgaris	I'll find, just a sec
[14:49]	schestowitz	later GOogle will come up with face-saving excuses
[14:49]	schestowitz	victim-blaming
[14:49]	schestowitz	new  "No matter which service we use, theres always a risk that they will turn off the light one day and not come back or just change the rules or licensing terms that would prevent us from staying there." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/01/28/what-if-github-is-the-devil/
[14:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What if GitHub is the devil? | daniel.haxx.se
[14:50]	schestowitz	he wrote it because of techrights
[14:50]	schestowitz	because I keep 'nagging' him about it 
[14:50]	schestowitz	and in twitter that starts big discussions about curl and shithub
[14:50]	DVulgaris	This is from their twitter:
[14:50]	DVulgaris	https://nitter.pussthecat.org/element_hq?lang=he
[14:50]	schestowitz	so he wrote a long defence
[14:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.pussthecat.org | Element (@element_hq) | Nitter by PussTheCat.org
[14:50]	schestowitz	ok, cheers
[14:50]	techrights-bot	#deletegoogle #gafam #monopoly #censorship #freesw https://nitter.pussthecat.org/element_hq?lang=he
[14:53]	techrights-bot	"Morning all. We've had contact from Google confirming that the suspension is due to abusive content somewhere on Matrix" OK, I'll google "Adolf Hitler", then report Google to Google... to ban it for hosting Nazi shite. https://nitter.pussthecat.org/element_hq?lang=he
[14:53]	techrights-bot	#EPO President #Campinos is just about as ruthless as his predecessor, but the media presents him as a saviour to appease the masses and protect an awful status quo http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/meme-candidate-campinos-is-not-president-campinos/
[14:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Candidate Campinos is Not President Campinos | Techrights
[14:53]	DVulgaris	Well, seriously
[14:54]	DVulgaris	They should ban chrome
[14:54]	DVulgaris	And Google Search
[14:54]	DVulgaris	I mean, you can find lots of abusive content using those...
[14:54]	techrights-bot	#AntnioCampinos continues scoring own goals by proving that hes just another #BenotBattistelli ; even industrial actions are treated no better than theyre treated somewhere like #China http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/epo-retribution-and-reprisal/
[14:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUEPO Will Challenge Retribution Against Staff That Went on Strike to Protest Illegalities at the EPO | Techrights
[14:54]	schestowitz	DVulgaris: yes, it's endless
[14:55]	schestowitz	you can find bad language in our IRC logs
[14:55]	schestowitz	should the site thus be banned?
[14:55]	DVulgaris	IRC isn't "accessible"
[14:55]	schestowitz	techdirt writes a lot about this content "moderation" and "liability" thing
[14:55]	DVulgaris	They won't do anything
[14:55]	schestowitz	a very wide brush to paint anything as infringing
[14:55]	DVulgaris	This is just outright censorship and corporate self-interests
[14:55]	schestowitz	maybe google store should ban IRC clients too
[14:55]	schestowitz	calling it "dark web"
[14:56]	schestowitz	as Google does not index it yet
[14:56]	DVulgaris	Sadly
[14:56]	DVulgaris	Even FOSS solutions fall in that trap at times
[14:56]		*DVulgaris Looks at F-Droid banning some mastodon clients
[14:56]	techrights-bot	Theres a false sense of #security and #privacy , perpetuated in part by #corporatemedia , and we need to go back to basics http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/
[14:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights
[14:57]	schestowitz	f-droid is usually for spying devices, even if the apps themselves do not spy
[14:57]	schestowitz	let's working to get people OFF social control media and so-called 'phones'
[14:57]	schestowitz	society was fine before these
[14:58]	schestowitz	civilisation was OK prior to all that supposed 'novelty' and we even had more competition back the
[14:58]	schestowitz	*then
[14:58]	DVulgaris	Thing is, they got us all hooked
[14:58]	DVulgaris	I could've just moved full time to XMPP and Matrix
[14:58]	DVulgaris	But the network effect
[14:59]	schestowitz	that's defeatism
[14:59]	DVulgaris	And you're viewed as a lunatic if you don't participate
[14:59]	schestowitz	they don't have us all hooked
[14:59]	schestowitz	maybe 20% of the world is "hooked"
[14:59]	schestowitz	usually younger people
[14:59]	DVulgaris	Not to mention that it would actually put one at a disadvantage
[14:59]	schestowitz	we can redeem the rest
[14:59]	schestowitz	many people were once "hooked" to TV
[14:59]	schestowitz	and no longer are
[14:59]	schestowitz	DVulgaris: no, participating it a disadvantage 
● Jan 30
[15:00]	schestowitz	contrary to perceptions spread by fake "friends" and peers
[15:00]	DVulgaris	I know
[15:00]	schestowitz	who waste their time, even at 'work', scrolling down fakebook 'walls'
[15:00]	DVulgaris	But for example, I would be cut off from very useful updates and learning materials at uni if I didn't use fb and whatsapp
[15:00]	schestowitz	until the boss or colleagues catch them doing "likes" in exchange for other faking their popularity to reciprocate
[15:00]	DVulgaris	I keep my use to a minimum, but still
[15:01]	schestowitz	that's like saying people who don't play violent computer games all day long are "disadvantaged"
[15:01]	schestowitz	no serious university would REQUIRE those
[15:01]	schestowitz	in fact, the gov. too should provide non-digital means
[15:02]	schestowitz	I still wait for ours to reopen for face-to-face meetings instead of "apps" to apply for things
[15:02]	DVulgaris	I mean
[15:02]	schestowitz	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2020/12/12/tech-versus-human-rights/
[15:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID May Have Caused (or Helped) the UK Home Office and Manchester Town Hall to Violate Basic Laws or Fundamental Human Rights
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[15:02]	DVulgaris	The silver lining is that all official university comms are done through moodle and email
[15:02]	schestowitz	that's good
[15:03]	schestowitz	the rest might be noise
[15:03]	DVulgaris	Not all unis here are like this
[15:03]	schestowitz	you can figure out what the Trump regime did without reading tweets
[15:03]	schestowitz	the tweets were likely false anyway
[15:03]	DVulgaris	yh
[15:04]	karolyi[m]	<DVulgaris "Google just booted Element (the "> damn... where does this shit end
[15:04]	DVulgaris	karolyi[m]: It doesn't
[15:05]	DVulgaris	And it won't
[15:05]	DVulgaris	I mean, look at what r/wallstreetbets did
[15:05]	DVulgaris	And how suddenly the US govt' wants to regulate the markets
[15:05]	DVulgaris	Not after 2008
[15:05]	DVulgaris	no
[15:06]	karolyi[m]	problem is, there will come a time where they will declare you as a terrorist/paedophile/whatever enemy of the state, just by using any of their unapproved apps
[15:08]	karolyi[m]	there are already moves on "gaining back trust of the citizens"
[15:09]	karolyi[m]	I'm pretty sure we will reach pretty quickly to the point where they will say "you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide"
[15:10]	karolyi[m]	not looking forward to it
[15:12]	psydroid	<DVulgaris "Google just booted Element (the "> The main objective is to boot competing services from their stores and whatever excuse they give has been come up with only after the fact, which is why we need to go with computing platforms that aren't tied to these tech monopolies. They saw the threat in open platforms such as GNU/Linux and have been working feverishly to co-opt and bring it into the fold too.
[15:12]	schestowitz	chromeOS
[15:13]	schestowitz	Chrome BUK mossile
[15:13]	schestowitz	*mossile
[15:13]	schestowitz	*>missile
[15:13]	DVulgaris	karolyi[m]: Didn't we reach that point kind of?
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[15:13]	karolyi[m]	we did... but you still have means of circumventing it
[15:13]	DVulgaris	psydroid: It isn't just that, these monopolies MUST be broken up
[15:14]	DVulgaris	schestowitz: chromeos and android can't tolerate the "gpl virus" for long, that's why google is working on stuff like fuchsia
[15:14]	MinceR	30 160540 < DVulgaris> And how suddenly the US govt' wants to regulate the markets
[15:15]	MinceR	lol
[15:15]	DVulgaris	It's kind of ironic, because chromeos is what got me into gnu/linux in the first place
[15:15]	DVulgaris	MinceR: Yep
[15:15]	techrights-bot	#Microsoft is Like a Cult, According to Former Microsoft Insider s http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/microsoft-as-a-cult/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
[15:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Like a Cult, According to Former Microsoft Insider | Techrights
[15:15]	MinceR	what a coincidence, it looks like a cult from the outside as well
[15:15]	psydroid	DVulgaris: of course that needs to happen, but have antitrust authorities in the US and the EU done anything so far? Until that happens we need to actively work on alternatives to limit whatever influence those monopolies already have
[15:15]	psydroid	it looks like a cult from Mars as well, who would have thought
[15:16]	DVulgaris	psydroid: That's true, but I meant that there should be pressure on the politicians to get with the times
[15:16]	DVulgaris	And boot the boomers out of government
[15:16]	DVulgaris	I mean, even in the 90's they were referring to the internet as a network of tubes...
[15:17]	karolyi[m]	I don't believe any of these big companies can be broken up at this point, their lobbyists are everywhere, they learned from the last time likes of them have been eliminated
[15:17]	karolyi[m]	unless people willingly start to take power out of their hands (fleeing from bigtech), I don't think the government is able to do anything
[15:17]	karolyi[m]	and even then it won't come from the government, but from the people
[15:19]	techrights-bot	"The agency has investigated 13 of the deaths so far and concluded that common adverse reactions of #mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients." https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149
[15:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination | The BMJ
[15:19]	DVulgaris	Yh, that's a problem of using immune-boosting stuff with the mrna vaccines
[15:19]	DVulgaris	Should have more regulation on it
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[15:20]	DVulgaris	And they weren't tested with older age groups (or under 18s either)
[15:20]	karolyi[m]	from what I've heard so far, animal tests with mrna vaccines were disastrous
[15:21]	schestowitz	I checked up the above because
[15:21]	schestowitz	my wife found "youtube video"
[15:21]	schestowitz	and I told her, youtube is NOT a source
[15:21]	DVulgaris	Totally annecdotal, but I got the pfizer one
[15:21]	schestowitz	and so I looked up what journals with peer review say
[15:22]	DVulgaris	First shot was nothing basically, the second one sucked
[15:22]	schestowitz	this one also contains official statement from viagraCompany
[15:22]	DVulgaris	I was in bed for a whole day
[15:22]	schestowitz	we need more data still
[15:22]	DVulgaris	Yep
[15:22]	schestowitz	I don't mine getting the jab
[15:22]	schestowitz	but not yet
[15:22]	karolyi[m]	DVulgaris: what made you get it in the first place, did you get the chink flu?
[15:22]	schestowitz	I want to see what the trials show
[15:22]	schestowitz	they rushes with the trial and very large test group (millions)
[15:23]	schestowitz	maybe first doze is like "warm-up"
[15:23]	schestowitz	and no efficacy to it
[15:23]	DVulgaris	karolyi[m]: Mainly because I don't want to be part of a chain
[15:23]	DVulgaris	And I know that it presents low risk for me
[15:23]	karolyi[m]	what chain?
[15:23]	DVulgaris	Transmission chain, of the chink flu
[15:23]	karolyi[m]	oh
[15:24]	karolyi[m]	well I'd rather get it (if I'm not over it already, chances are I am), than to get an untested vaccine but it's just me
[15:24]	schestowitz	I would not want to stay in bed all day because of a vaccine, covid-19 not even reaching me
[15:24]	schestowitz	I had to stay in bed 2 days last month due to something bad I had eaten
[15:24]	karolyi[m]	schestowitz: there is also T-cell immunity
[15:25]	schestowitz	and I fell behind news and stuff, lost like 2-3 KG, recovered slowly
[15:25]	DVulgaris	I mean, I've been keeping up with the research for a while, so I didn't mind
[15:25]	DVulgaris	BTW, do you think the whole SARS-CoV-2 thing was a bioweapon
[15:25]	karolyi[m]	who, me?
[15:25]	DVulgaris	I've been following it since Jan-2020, and it is damn suspicious
[15:25]	schestowitz	maybe it'll turn out the sinovac one is better
[15:26]	DVulgaris	I personally think that WHO was covering china's ass 
[15:26]	schestowitz	I don't mind getting a "foreign" (in UK we're asked to assume US is "local") one
[15:26]	DVulgaris	And that it is a potentially leaked bioweapon
[15:26]	schestowitz	it sure fills up hospitals fast
[15:26]	schestowitz	took just 1-2 monhs in the UK
[15:27]	schestowitz	had to shut down everything for 3 months
[15:27]	karolyi[m]	from what I've seen, there were huge mistakes and unscientific decisions made, if not downright malicious intent... I believe this virus was a great scapegoat to bring the economy into ruins and bring about "ze fortz inzustrial revolution" and "ze great rezet"
[15:28]	schestowitz	if you wanted an attack on critical infrastructure, or even aircraft carriers,it would be good "cold war" arsenal, but then again many countries keep weaponised bio warfare and there's no evidence china did anything by intention here
[15:28]	karolyi[m]	euromomo numbers show a pretty high excess mortality for last year, but still comparable to flu waves before, it's not the great exterminator as they say it, nowhere near spanish flu levels
[15:28]	schestowitz	karolyi[m]: but look at excess deaths
[15:29]	schestowitz	in UK over 100,000 people
[15:29]	DVulgaris	I think it is just china being sloppy
[15:29]	schestowitz	even just direct
[15:29]	schestowitz	so you know there's no faking here
[15:29]	karolyi[m]	yes, it's a strong virs
[15:29]	DVulgaris	They tried to get a vaccine or a bioweapon - and the shit leaked
[15:29]	karolyi[m]	I'm not saying there is faking
[15:29]	DVulgaris	I mean, judging by how they cut corners there all the time: it isn't far off
[15:29]	schestowitz	bbl
[15:30]	DVulgaris	But they did keep flights from Wuhan open for much longer after they closed the railways
[15:30]	karolyi[m]	btw I want to have a go with this data when it becomes non-preliminary: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/demo_r_mwk_ts/default/table?lang=en
[15:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ec.europa.eu | 
[15:30]	DVulgaris	So, there is also malicious intent
[15:30]	karolyi[m]	until then there is only the euromomo I would trust
[15:31]	karolyi[m]	indeed, I'd say it's a mixture of malicious intent and human errors
[15:31]	karolyi[m]	problem is, the real consequences aren't visible yet, in terms of economical decline
[15:31]	karolyi[m]	and now I've seen articles about them fucking with the food supply chain, almost as if they would plan famine
[15:32]	techrights-bot	Free Open Source #GPU Under Development for #RISCV http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147046#comment-28023
[15:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New project uses rollups to build Linux-based decentralized computer | Tux Machines
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[15:33]	techrights-bot	#Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147064 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/30/#latest
[15:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[15:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
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[15:34]	karolyi[m]	https://www.iceagefarmer.com/2021/01/26/experts-sound-alarm-we-must-protect-our-food-supply/
[15:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iceagefarmer.com | Experts Sound Alarm: We Must Protect Our Food Supply | ice age farmer
[15:34]	MinceR	(cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/w5be7DZ
[15:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Purrfect Caturday (=^^=) - Album on Imgur
[15:34]	techrights-bot	List of Free, Open Source Video Call Alternatives (#Jitsi , #Mattermost ) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147063 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/30/#latest
[15:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | List of Free, Open Source Video Call Alternatives (Jitsi, Mattermost) | Tux Machines
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[15:35]	karolyi[m]	DVulgaris: what do you know about the plan that you'll have to get a yearly new jab in order to "stay immune"?
[15:37]	techrights-bot	#Fedora 34: New Features and Release Dates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147062 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #IBM
[15:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 34: New Features and Release Dates | Tux Machines
[15:38]	psydroid	VaaS
[15:38]	psydroid	Vaccine as a Service
[15:38]	karolyi[m]	lol
[15:39]	karolyi[m]	I don't think people's immune systems stopped working in 2020 though
[15:39]	techrights-bot	">1970 saw strikes in almost every employment category. Many, seen from the outside, were inconsequential affairs; others shook the nation." https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/29/the-decade-of-the-rank-and-file-fifty-years-on/
[15:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Decade of the Rank and File: Fifty Years On - CounterPunch.org
[15:39]	schestowitz	the new Windows
[15:39]	schestowitz	Moderna 95... coming soon
[15:39]	schestowitz	don't forget to get service pack 2
[15:40]	karolyi[m]	indeed
[15:40]	karolyi[m]	but hey, this is conspiracy theory territory, until it becomes reality
[15:40]	schestowitz	"Microsoft is going to argue that since most users are now familiar with the way a Web browser works, the browser will be an easier interface for novices to use in finding stuff on their own computers. And that might be true. But if it is true, it's an admission of awful truth for Microsoft: It's saying, 'After all these years and versions of Windows we still haven't figured out how to make personal computing easy enough for an 
[15:40]	schestowitz	intelligent person to learn easily.'" -Scott Rosenberg, Salon.com
[15:40]	schestowitz	When you speak about interoperability [...] He meant among different versions of Windows. Joe Wilcox, Microsoft Fan, 14 June 2006
[15:41]	schestowitz	Linus Torvalds
[15:41]	schestowitz	"I think that "innovation" is a four-letter word in the industry. It should never be used in polite company. It's become a PR thing to sell new versions with."
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[15:43]	karolyi[m]	I'm in the matrix HQ room as well, they're talking about the issue
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[15:46]	karolyi[m]	> If they're deplatforming Matrix, that means they're designing it right
[15:47]	techrights-bot	Were happy to see that weve been getting more insights regarding life inside Microsoft; we strongly encourage readers to learn about how or why #Microsoft employees become oblivious to facts and morality http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/microsoft-as-a-cult/
[15:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Like a Cult, According to Former Microsoft Insider | Techrights
[15:47]	karolyi[m]	> I'll just point out: Element has been promoted on certain sites that like to speak about riots...element on the play store had Riot in the name...Google has advised them to re-upload with a new name...
[15:48]	schestowitz	so that's why it was renamed?
[15:48]	schestowitz	GOogle pressure?
[15:48]	karolyi[m]	it seems so yes
[15:48]	schestowitz	So google chooses names now? For projects it doesn't even make?
[15:48]	schestowitz	I did wonder why they had renamed
[15:48]	karolyi[m]	isn't Google a cult as well? there was that James Damore fiasco in the past
[15:48]	schestowitz	as if the name alone was the issue
[15:48]	schestowitz	who cares about substance....
[15:48]	schestowitz	We have a company here called Virgin
[15:49]	schestowitz	a large company
[15:49]	schestowitz	maybe Google should tell Mr. Branson to rename his company
[15:49]	schestowitz	or else, no "checkin" "app"
[15:49]	psydroid	that makes me think of The Virgin Suicides
[15:49]	schestowitz	also ban github
[15:49]	schestowitz	git is an insult here
[15:49]	psydroid	so it should definitely be banned
[15:50]	schestowitz	it's like a really obvious nsult
[15:50]	schestowitz	torvalds even joked about it being an insult, hence called after him
[15:50]	schestowitz	ban github apap
[15:50]	schestowitz	worse thsn "riot"
[15:52]	psydroid	Element could be inferred to mean water (risk of drowing) or fire (risk of burning)
[15:52]	psydroid	drowning*
[15:53]	karolyi[m]	clown world intensifies
[15:53]	psydroid	I'm so thankful that Google is doing such a good job being the internet police
[15:55]	psydroid	Roogle McGoogle, a different kind of clown for the modern era
[15:56]	karolyi[m]	when words are hurtful
[15:58]	karolyi[m]	there are debug-signed APK artifacts available from the matrix build server here: https://buildkite.com/matrix-dot-org/element-android/builds/1162#3521aaa0-db42-449e-a90a-8c0d937e9cef
[15:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-buildkite.com | element-android #1162
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[16:05]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #Techdirt #Patents #Patent All Hands On Deck: Ensuring Innovation, Not Just Patents, From All https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210125/21374546118/all-hands-deck-ensuring-innovation-not-just-patents-all.shtml #iancu is corrupt http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu
[16:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-All Hands On Deck: Ensuring Innovation, Not Just Patents, From All | Techdirt
[16:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrei Iancu - Techrights
[16:06]	DVulgaris	karolyi[m]: I guess I will take it, again, the research seems fine
[16:06]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/21011548
[16:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5171082)
[16:08]	karolyi[m]	DVulgaris: can you point me to articles where it says it is fine? I'm really interested in knowing more because from what I've seen so far it's quite the opposite
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[16:09]	schestowitz	I cannot recall a vaccine that in the short term (days) cased the recipient to be bed-bound
[16:09]	schestowitz	does not sound too encouraging to me
[16:10]	schestowitz	maybe dose one of like a teaser/tester
[16:10]	schestowitz	preparing for something that might actually have an effect
[16:10]	schestowitz	of course it's all secret
[16:10]	schestowitz	they don't share their recipe
[16:10]	schestowitz	thus fueling their sceptics and critics
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[16:10]	schestowitz	and charging like $30 a dose as if the aim if to make trillions from this thing
[16:10]	schestowitz	so much for "saving us"
[16:11]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #CounterPunch How the #NationalSecurity State Has Come to Dominate a "Civilian" Government https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/29/how-the-national-security-state-has-come-to-dominate-a-civilian-government/
[16:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How the National Security State Has Come to Dominate a "Civilian" Government - CounterPunch.org
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[16:14]	schestowitz	https://twitter.com/UCheckItOut/status/1354945458985168906
[16:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UCheckItOut: Gates Foundation Is Not Helping Africa or Africans. It Exploits Them. https://t.co/02p2g5qfhl
[16:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Gates Foundation Is Not Helping Africa or Africans. It Exploits Them. | Techrights
[16:14]	schestowitz	https://twitter.com/UCheckItOut/status/1354944615292559367
[16:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UCheckItOut: .@8extremes Former Microsoft Employee: Bill Gates Invested in (Monsanto, Now Bayer) Because Theyre Basically the https://t.co/xnbPVT33LH
[16:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UCheckItOut: .@8extremes Former Microsoft Employee: Bill Gates Invested in (Monsanto, Now Bayer) Because Theyre Basically the https://t.co/xnbPVT33LH
[16:14]	schestowitz	"Former Microsoft Employee: Bill Gates Invested in (Monsanto, Now Bayer) Because Theyre Basically the Microsoft of the Agriculture Industry."
[16:15]	schestowitz	https://twitter.com/UCheckItOut/status/1354944238811803656
[16:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UCheckItOut: Los Angeles Times Examination of the Gates Foundation (2007) https://t.co/7IKg6ODrup
[16:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Los Angeles Times Examination of the Gates Foundation (2007) | Techrights
[16:15]	schestowitz	https://twitter.com/UCheckItOut/status/1354944072184639496
[16:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UCheckItOut: Resurgent Interest in Gates Foundation Scandals https://t.co/I5hJhP6oWN
[16:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Resurgent Interest in Gates Foundation Scandals | Techrights
[16:16]	karolyi[m]	gates is in all kinds of nefarious stuff, he's buying up farmland in america big time
[16:17]	schestowitz	the country is on sale
[16:17]	schestowitz	he now owns the most farmland
[16:17]	schestowitz	based on reports
[16:17]	schestowitz	multiple-times arrested Gates
[16:17]	schestowitz	nice guy..
[16:17]	schestowitz	https://twitter.com/UCheckItOut/status/1354941415281872896
[16:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UCheckItOut: " What is Known for a Fact (Not Speculation) About Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and Rick Allen Jones:" https://t.co/mgD0xqWkNy
[16:17]	schestowitz	"" What is Known for a Fact (Not Speculation) About Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and Rick Allen Jones:""
[16:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | What is Known for a Fact (Not Speculation) About Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and Rick Allen Jones | Techrights
[16:18]	schestowitz	Slow-motion "Collapse of USSR"
[16:18]	schestowitz	Oligarchs buy all
[16:18]	schestowitz	Now they come after RIOT
[16:18]	schestowitz	I mean... ELEMENT
[16:18]	schestowitz	rename did not save them, did they?
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[16:18]	schestowitz	PRIVATE comms is "TERRORISM"
[16:18]	schestowitz	https://twitter.com/UCheckItOut/status/1354941161866194954
[16:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UCheckItOut: A New Tim Schwab Investigative Report on Bill Gates' Bribery of the Media and Beyond (for Hagiographies and Salesma https://t.co/lbFnR6PJj8
[16:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UCheckItOut: A New Tim Schwab Investigative Report on Bill Gates' Bribery of the Media and Beyond (for Hagiographies and Salesma https://t.co/lbFnR6PJj8
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[16:19]	karolyi[m]	james corbett has a pretty conclusive video on gates
[16:20]	karolyi[m]	and yes, "you will have no privacy, you will own nothing, you will live in the pod, you will eat ze bugz", added to that now "you will only trust what we tell you to trust"
[16:20]	karolyi[m]	the latter part is their plan to "restore trust of civilians"
[16:20]	karolyi[m]	maybe a snopes 2.0
[16:21]	schestowitz	some of his videos not so credible..
[16:21]	schestowitz	some are factual
[16:22]	schestowitz	I cut off just the bits I can ascertain to be accurate in http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/real-history-of-microsoft/
[16:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Real History of Microsoft and How It Became Successful | Techrights
[16:22]	schestowitz	he later veers off into speculative things
[16:22]	karolyi[m]	he has come a long way... it's freaky how he could predict things 5-10 years ago
[16:27]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #MintPressNews #Africa 's Last Colony: UN Must Hold Long-Overdue Vote for Self-Determination in #WesternSahara https://www.mintpressnews.com/africas-last-colony-un-vote-self-determination-western-sahara/274907/
[16:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Africa's Last Colony: UN Must Hold Long-Overdue Vote for Self-Determination in Western Sahara
[16:32]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: I was making Mandy a SoFi Invest account.
[16:32]	DaemonFC[m]	I noticed a lot of the popular ETFs have a lot of Microsoft and Apple in them, and now Tesla too.
[16:33]	schestowitz	obsolete companies
[16:33]	schestowitz	with imaginary share values
[16:33]	schestowitz	based on no substance
[16:33]	schestowitz	the "better known" gamestops
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[16:34]	MinceR	(cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/720e20b3e66fce8f.mp4
[16:34]	DaemonFC[m]	They have a global index ETF that's like 7.35% Microsoft.
[16:34]	DaemonFC[m]	I thought that was pretty crazy.
[16:40]	schestowitz	dangerous
[16:40]	schestowitz	they bet on a dying horse
[16:40]	schestowitz	with quickly diminishing share and waste on acquisitions, trying to remain relevant
[16:40]	schestowitz	while wasting money buying off the media and bribing for contracts
[16:41]	schestowitz	Recent example https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4109263
[16:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taiwannews.com.tw | Former manager of Microsoft Taiwan investigated for fraud | Taiwan News | 2021/01/22
[16:48]	techrights-bot	#manchester City extending the lead. Fast goal and solid defence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIRTcEafLbE
[16:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hasil Liga Inggris Manchester City vs Sheffield United | Half Time - YouTube
[16:49]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #meduza #ru #russia Woman injured by #StPetersburg #police appeals to state investigators over criminal case https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/01/29/woman-injured-by-st-petersburg-policeman-appeals-to-state-investigators-over-criminal-case
[16:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE
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[16:55]	MinceR	https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/l8fz38/whats_happening_is_great_but_dont_let_the_medias/
[16:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What's happening is great, but don't let the media's narrative draw attention away from the Wall Street greed that ACTUALLY started this : wallstreetbets
● Jan 30
[17:01]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: Yeah, I'm trying to open an investment account for Mandy.
[17:02]	DaemonFC[m]	Not a ton of money will be going into it, but it's nice to have something I guess, but I'm probably going to keep looking for ETFs until I find one that's weighted less on things like these big tech companies.
[17:02]	schestowitz	From Tondo to Wall Street?
[17:02]	schestowitz	How about you save the money instead of giving it away?
[17:04]	DaemonFC[m]	I ran into some people who said they had no trouble BUYING Savings Bonds, but then ran into a lot of trouble trying to sell them to the Treasury and have the money put into their account.
[17:04]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #CommonDreams Opinion | Should President Biden Revoke #Section230 ? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/01/29/should-president-biden-revoke-section-230 "The recent attack on the US Capitol reveals the danger of digital media platforms."
[17:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Should President Biden Revoke Section 230?
[17:06]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: Even some nice bonds would be okay.
[17:07]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #MintPressNews Panicked Authorities Clamp Down Amid Wall Street Bets' #GameStop Rebellion https://www.mintpressnews.com/panicked-authorities-clamp-down-after-wall-street-bets-gamestop-rebellion/274928/
[17:07]	DaemonFC[m]	I just have a feeling that inflation is going to be a big problem.
[17:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Panicked Authorities Clamp Down Amid Wall Street Bets' GameStop Rebellion
[17:07]	schestowitz	how much money is that for? a couple grand?
[17:07]	schestowitz	not worth the hassle
[17:08]	karolyi[m]	https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=710506
[17:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | Amazon deletes purchased copies of 1984 from Kindle | Hacker News
[17:08]	karolyi[m]	how ironic
[17:16]	DaemonFC[m]	<schestowitz "how much money is that for? a co"> Probably at least a few grand up front in I bonds.
[17:16]	DaemonFC[m]	Followed by a couple hundred a month.
[17:17]	DaemonFC[m]	That's what I'd like to do anyway.
[17:17]	DaemonFC[m]	They pay interest for 30 years, you know, and guaranteed to beat inflation.
[17:18]	schestowitz	anyway, doesn't matter, it's mostly irrelevant to us how you invest money
[17:18]	schestowitz	maybe spare some time and money to help discuss the Rick Allen Jones court case?
[17:19]	schestowitz	It's still there for us to dig
[17:19]	schestowitz	and many people still access those articles
[17:19]	schestowitz	as Prof. Vaccine Gates speaks out more and more
[17:19]	DaemonFC[m]	I guess I'll look into sofi some more later. 
[17:20]	DaemonFC[m]	I was perusing investments. Novavax got hit hard after announcing it was withdrawing their COVID vaccine candidate.
[17:20]	techrights-bot	"Caricatured by Republicans as Sleepy Joe, the new president has started his term with an impressive sprint, issuing a record number of executive orders." https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-executive-order-times/
[17:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Bidens Executive Orders Are Essential to Restoring Democracy | The Nation
[17:21]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: Bill Gates is heavily invested in Novavax iirc.
[17:21]	DaemonFC[m]	I'm sure this stings, but he probably is smart enough to spread it around so at least most of them will be winners in the end.
[17:22]	DaemonFC[m]	All of these companies are pursuing, largely, the same two technologies. 
[17:23]	DaemonFC[m]	Either mRNA or a modified Adenovirus. The mRNA ones seem to be more effective, while the Adenovirus ones have less stringent cold storage requirements and usually one dose.
[17:23]	schestowitz	same patent pools
[17:23]	DaemonFC[m]	It's likely that most people in America will end up getting the Johnson & Johnson shot.
[17:23]	schestowitz	corporate media: Gates says 
[17:23]	schestowitz	"stock up on more vaccines"
[17:24]	schestowitz	"prepare for next pandemic"
[17:24]	schestowitz	"we look out for front liners"
[17:24]	DaemonFC[m]	Even though it's less effective, it's one shot and easier to store, and they can make, effectively, at least 4 times as much as Moderna & Pfizer combined that way.
[17:24]	schestowitz	"critics of my vaccines are all nuts"
[17:25]	DaemonFC[m]	The mRNA shots that are approved are rolling out too slowly. Only 1.5% of Illinois population vaccinated.
[17:25]	DaemonFC[m]	The FDA is pretty much going to have to approve Johnson & Johnson from where I'm sitting.
[17:25]	DaemonFC[m]	It's probably not the worst investment. They're going to be approved, probably, before the Astrazeneca one.
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[17:30]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: There's a few ETFs that broadly follow the Chinese stock market.
[17:30]	DaemonFC[m]	Seeing how bad things actually are in the US, it makes me wonder if it would be a good idea to buy and hold on Chinese firms for a while.
[17:31]	techrights-bot	#HowTo Install Signal Messenger on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS - idroot https://idroot.us/install-signal-messenger-ubuntu-20-04/ #idroot
[17:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idroot.us | How To Install Signal Messenger on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS - idroot
[17:31]	DaemonFC[m]	It's looking as though they're the most likely major economy to come out of this funk anytime soon thanks to broadly incompetent leadership that controlled the US presidency until a week ago, and which is still the majority party in the UK.
[17:33]	DaemonFC[m]	Trump was downplaying the whole thing while also trying to take credit for a vaccine race that would have happened no matter what. Where, if anything, he may have slowed it down when his cronies took millions out of it to redecorate their offices.
[17:33]	techrights-ipfs	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.13   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.46 swarm size (avg): 261.71  
[17:33]	DaemonFC[m]	Even without a guarantee that all Americans would get vaccinated at no cost, there would have been a vaccine race, because people would have (A) still had insurance that covered vaccines, or (B) dug deep to pay for it if they had to, for the most part.
[17:34]	DaemonFC[m]	It's worth noting under Trump that the administration refused to guarantee it would be free. They said it would be "Whatever people could afford to pay." and only after the Democrats forced it into law was it free and Trump proceeded to take all the credit for that.
[17:38]	techrights-bot	You cannot manage your supply chain - Open Source Security https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/01/29/you-cannot-manage-your-supply-chain/ #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #security
[17:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | You cannot manage your supply chain Open Source Security
[17:40]	techrights-bot	The course of #RakuLang https://andrewshitov.com/2021/01/13/the-course-of-raku/ #programming
[17:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-andrewshitov.com | The course of Raku Andrew Shitov
[17:41]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz: I know what Stallman says about cash, but I don't really feel like the government is concerned about my buying waffles and a tank of gas with my cashback credit cards.
[17:44]	DaemonFC[m]	Oddly, credit card rewards aren't taxable income. The IRS regulations consider them rebates, not income.
[17:45]	DaemonFC[m]	https://www.memri.org/reports/us-based-internet-archive-hosts-massive-amount-neo-nazi-white-supremacist-and-holocaust
[17:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.memri.org | U.S.-Based 'Internet Archive' Hosts Massive Amount Of Neo-Nazi, White Supremacist, And Holocaust Denial Propaganda Serving As Major Resource For Recruitment And Radicalization | MEMRI
[17:45]	DaemonFC[m]	Just saw this fly past on the Politics Uncensored room.
[17:46]	DaemonFC[m]	Facebook is a major source for holocaust denial and radicalization.
[17:46]	DaemonFC[m]	Their algorithms promoted it to "drive engagement" and make money, and now we have these fucking weirdos everywhere and the government talking about a new domestic terror law.
[17:51]	techrights-bot	"overpriced hype" https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/the-chargers-that-should-not-exist/
[17:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | The chargers that should not exist | Stop at Zona-M
[17:52]	techrights-bot	#diffoscope 166 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-166-released/ #ReproducibleBuilds #gnu #linux #security
[17:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diffoscope.org | diffoscope 166 released
[17:53]	techrights-bot	Learn #Python For Free: 6 Tips https://python.land/learn-python-free #programming
[17:53]	karolyi[m]	> Facebook is a major source for holocaust denial and radicalization.
[17:53]	karolyi[m]	well facebook changed a lot for sure, since last time I was actually paying attention to it
[17:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-python.land | LearnPython For Free: 6 Tips - Python Land
[17:57]	techrights-bot	#KiwiTCMS wants #google as a #SugarDaddy (with strings attached to that money) https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2021/01/30/kiwi-tcms-has-applied-for-gsoc-2021/
[17:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kiwitcms.org | Kiwi TCMS - Kiwi TCMS has applied for GSoC 2021
[17:58]	techrights-bot	#microsoft is copying what #gnu #linux WAS... back in the 90s... maybe Microsoft will even join the 21st century before it goes bankrupt and asks the US Gov. for more bailouts https://liliputing.com/2021/01/now-you-can-uninstall-apps-with-windows-package-manager-command-line-tools.html
[17:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Now you can uninstall apps with Windows Package Manager (command-line tools) - Liliputing
● Jan 30
[18:00]	techrights-bot	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147065 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[18:03]	schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: problem with any site that has "user-uploaded content"
[18:03]	schestowitz	The Web is a mess and the "Social" stuff is perhaps the worst
[18:03]	schestowitz	designed to get people emotional to stay on the sites
[18:07]	techrights-bot	Security: ID Theft, #Microsoft , #FreeSoftware #Security and #ReproducibleBuilds / #Diffoscope http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147066
[18:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: ID Theft, Microsoft, Free Software Security and Reproducible Builds/Diffoscope | Tux Machines
[18:14]	techrights-bot	#Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147067 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/30/#latest
[18:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[18:17]	techrights-bot	#KiwiTCMS Funding and Roadmap http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147068 #CMS #freesw
[18:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kiwi TCMS Funding and Roadmap | Tux Machines
[18:17]	XRevan86	MinceR: https://quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/what-is-the-dot-over-the-letter-i-called
[18:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.quickanddirtytips.com | What Is the Dot over the Letter "i" Called?
[18:19]	techrights-bot	#FreeSoftware and #Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147069 #freesw
[18:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software and Openwashing | Tux Machines
[18:19]	MinceR	XRevan86: nice
[18:20]	MinceR	i've encountered it before but forgot
[18:21]		*Lantizia_ is now known as Lantizia
[18:23]	techrights-bot	Devices/Embedded Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147070 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices/Embedded Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:25]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/21011535
[18:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5170523)
[18:26]	XRevan86	MinceR: There's truth to this idea, but it's not correct.
[18:27]	XRevan86	Like we know that in C it's "what if everything were an integer" :)
[18:27]	XRevan86	Talking about Pascal being particularly structed is weird.
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[18:27]	XRevan86	It's pretty standard by today's standards.
[18:28]	MinceR	i know
[18:28]	techrights-bot	Audiocasts/Shows: Reality 2.0, #FreeTube and Self-Hosted http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147071 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/30/#latest
[18:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Reality 2.0, FreeTube and Self-Hosted | Tux Machines
[18:30]	techrights-bot	Leftovers: #Debian , #Ubuntu , #GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147073 #GNU #Linux
[18:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Debian, Ubuntu, GNOME | Tux Machines
[18:32]	XRevan86	And talking about GC in Rust well, sure.
[18:33]	XRevan86	C++ is also RAII, I guess they forgot to add a GC.
[18:33]	techrights-ipfs	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.13   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.46 swarm size (avg): 260.39  
[18:33]	MinceR	c++ is a lot older than rust
[18:34]	MinceR	and more powerful, and more free
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[18:40]	techrights-bot	Links 30/1/2021: #Wine 6.1, #LibreOffice New Generation s http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/libreoffice-new-generation/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux
[18:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 30/1/2021: Wine 6.1, LibreOffice New Generation | Techrights
[18:43]	techrights-bot	OnePlus 6 and #OnePlus 6T seeing work for mainline #Linux #kernel support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147072
[18:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus 6 and OnePlus 6T seeing work for mainline Linux kernel support | Tux Machines
[18:45]	techrights-bot	#Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147074 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:51]	techrights-bot	Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147075 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
● Jan 30
[19:03]	MinceR	https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/6ec6c730a01420d8.jpg
[19:33]	MinceR	(cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/35cdf6be0e626a02.jpg
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[19:52]	vZS1	schestowitz: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-55866263
[19:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Newspaper headlines: 'EU vaccine war explodes', and Macron 'attacks' Oxford jab - BBC News
[19:53]	vZS1	Look at what Billy's Broadcasting Corporation are posting
[19:53]	vZS1	More anti-EU propaganda
[19:54]	vZS1	"By BBC News Staff"
[19:54]	psydroid	The Sun is shining at BBC HQ
[19:55]	vZS1	Lmao
[19:55]	vZS1	The level of clickbait as well
[19:56]	vZS1	And people actually rely on them for information. 
[19:56]	vZS1	Incomprehensible
[19:58]	MinceR	https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/bcbad5643d3d4bd1.jpg
[19:58]	vZS1	Murdoch's channels all distilled into a single post
● Jan 30
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[20:06]	psydroid	I haven't been reading much on the BBC website for the past few years
[20:15]	vZS1	I don't go there altogether
[20:16]	vZS1	I get updates from gov.uk
[20:16]	vZS1	The rest I get from my RSS feed
[20:17]	vZS1	The BBC is a terrible organisation. Propaganda on the level of Goebbels
[20:21]	psydroid	Has it always been like that or did it get worse during the past few years?
[20:22]	vZS1	Always
[20:22]	vZS1	But it never fails to get worse
[20:22]	vZS1	Each year it gets more inflammatory
[20:24]	psydroid	I have also noticed I never watch anything on BBC television anymore
[20:24]	psydroid	I used to watch some things as a teen, because there wasn't much else
[20:24]	vZS1	The entertainment doesn't bother me. 
[20:25]	vZS1	It's the "news" that does
[20:25]	vZS1	To a lot of people (all over the world), the BBC is gospel. Infallible
[20:26]	psydroid	I don't watch the "news" very often here either, as it suffers from the same problem
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[20:51]	vZS1	Recently, I convinced several people I know to ditch Gboard on their Android devices and use OpenBoard from F-Droid instead.
[20:51]	vZS1	I feel like Gboard is just a keylogger at this point
[20:52]	vZS1	The really interesting thing is that a few told me that their Google "news" recommendations got worse
[20:53]	psydroid	I have also got rid of Gboard and installed Openboard
[20:53]	vZS1	Excellent
[20:54]	psydroid	And I haven't got Google news, because it's just a waste of time
[20:54]	psydroid	That seems to be their strategy
[20:54]	vZS1	Neither have I
[20:54]	vZS1	At this point, every byte we can deny Google is progress
[20:55]	psydroid	To waste people's time so they don't get involved with more important things
[20:55]	MinceR	https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/47c219d59248436e.jpg
[20:56]	psydroid	I think that is more malicious than any of their malware, because it shows a disdain for the most precious resource people have in their lives, which is time
[20:56]	vZS1	Indeed
[20:56]	vZS1	It's the same with social control media
[20:58]	vZS1	Several people log into their bank accounts on their phones
[20:58]	psydroid	I don't do anything with social control media, never post anything and don't open their websites
[20:59]	vZS1	I'm sure Gboard has keylogged the pins and passwords of billions by now
● Jan 30
[21:00]	vZS1	It's something that a lot of people don't think about
[21:01]	psydroid	Doing banking on phones seems a foolish thing to do, so I don't
[21:02]	vZS1	Doing banking over the internet in general is a big no
[21:02]	vZS1	Fake security
[21:02]	vZS1	But they keep pushing it
[21:03]	vZS1	Closing down more and more branches
[21:03]	vZS1	They don't even get people to manually verify the TLS certs
[21:03]	psydroid	That's the problem
[21:04]	psydroid	Some just don't have any branches anymore
[21:04]	vZS1	It would be so easy to just have a copy of the TLS certs at a branch
[21:04]	vZS1	Pick them up from there
[21:05]	vZS1	At least that way you could have real security for internet banking
[21:06]	vZS1	I print out all the public keys for my clients and deliver them in person
[21:06]	vZS1	Sometimes that means flights
[21:08]	vZS1	I've had to delay a few cert renewals because of the travel bans
[21:16]	psydroid	That's the best security
[21:17]	vZS1	My clients don't buy GIAFAM garbage (:
[21:19]	vZS1	No clowns
[21:19]	vZS1	All physical servers on premise
[21:20]	vZS1	They own their computing
[21:28]	vZS1	Google have been silently cutting a lot of costs
[21:28]	vZS1	They got rid of Clown Print in December
[21:28]	vZS1	Nothing in the news about it
[21:29]	vZS1	They reduced people's Clown Storage for their Google accounts
[21:29]	vZS1	Again. Radio silence
[21:31]	vZS1	They rebranded Gsuite into "Google Workplace"
[21:33]	vZS1	I only recently found out that Cryptpad can be self hosted
[21:33]	vZS1	I quickly told all my friends
[21:33]	vZS1	Many were looking for a Google docs replacement
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[21:34]	vZS1	https://github.com/xwiki-labs/cryptpad
[21:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - xwiki-labs/cryptpad: Collaboration suite, encrypted and open-source.
[21:35]	vZS1	I highly recommended it.
[21:35]	vZS1	It's AGPLV3
[21:35]	vZS1	Like all libre software should be
[21:36]	vZS1	So that the clowns can't run away with your code
[21:37]	vZS1	schestowitz: I've noticed something very concerning about Gentoo BTW. Pretty much all their core tools are GPLV2
[21:38]	vZS1	I doubt we'll ever see Linux get on GPLV3 either. LF probably threatened Linus on that one.
[21:41]	vZS1	Ideally, the kernel should also be AGPLV3. Because you can run Linux in a VM. So someone can offer a modified version of Linux as a disservice and not have to share their modifications.
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[22:42]	psydroid	I am trying to make sure I get all my data out of the clown, but it's mostly just e-mail at this point
[22:43]	psydroid	Yes, Linux will never move to AGPLv3
[22:43]	psydroid	So another kernel would have to be written from scratch
[22:47]	psydroid	<vZS1 "All physical servers on premise"> This friend of mine whose IT I did kept bugging me about the clown back in the day, but I insisted on self-hosting everything
[22:55]	schestowitz	[21:04] <psydroid> Some just don't have any branches anymore
[22:55]	schestowitz	"Smart"
[22:56]	schestowitz	They are "banking clowns"
[22:56]	schestowitz	"my bank is in the clown"
[22:59]	schestowitz	[19:52] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.bbc.co.uk | Newspaper headlines: 'EU vaccine war explodes', and Macron 'attacks' Oxford jab - BBC News
[22:59]	schestowitz	vZS1: BillBC
[22:59]	schestowitz	l
[22:59]	schestowitz	Looking to profit from it
[22:59]	schestowitz	let's attack his critics
● Jan 30
[23:02]	techrights-bot	#billgates -bribed #BillBC is attacking critics of #patent #profiteering of Gates. #DefundTheBBC ... Gates already sponsors this propaganda machine anyway. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-55866263
[23:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Newspaper headlines: 'EU vaccine war explodes', and Macron 'attacks' Oxford jab - BBC News
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[23:08]	techrights-bot	I don't know anyone who's doing it, except maybe on servers that 'serve' Windows clients https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/installing-ubuntu-antivirus-guide/
[23:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | Installing Ubuntu antivirus [Guide]
[23:11]	techrights-bot	#Wine 6.1 Released as New Development Version [How to Install] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147048#comment-28024
[23:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games amd Wine 6.1 Status Update | Tux Machines
[23:13]	techrights-bot	Here is a WONDERFUL consequence of the #Parler shutdown https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/here-is-a-wonderful-consequence-of-the-parler-shutdown/
[23:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Here is a WONDERFUL consequence of the Parler shutdown | Stop at Zona-M
[23:14]	techrights-bot	Self hosted Virtual Reality space with #IdeaSpaceVR and #RaspberryPI - peppe8o https://peppe8o.com/self-hosted-virtual-reality-space-with-ideaspacevr-and-raspberry-pi/ #peppe8o
[23:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Self hosted Virtual Reality space with IdeaSpaceVR and Raspberry PI - peppe8o
[23:16]	techrights-bot	#ibm admits is made a self-harming decision https://www.itprotoday.com/linux/red-hat-expands-free-rhel-quell-centos-kerfuffle
[23:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | Red Hat Expands Free RHEL to Quell CentOS Kerfuffle | IT Pro
[23:17]	techrights-bot	#IBM emeritus IWB: https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/01/is-work-from-anywhere-here-to-stay-benefits-and-concerns.html Not "anywhere"; stuck in one's home...
[23:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Is Work-from-Anywhere Here to Stay?
[23:19]	techrights-bot	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147076 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[23:20]	techrights-bot	" #GarudaLinux is a Bleeding Edge Distro with Features and Advancements that are unseen in any other Linux Distro. Garuda is the Future of Desktop Linux." #gnu #linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK280Y0cNmQ
[23:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Garuda Linux : The Next-Generation Linux Distro Is Here With STUNNING FEATURES ( FOR 2021) - YouTube
[23:21]	techrights-bot	Switching from #GooglePhotos : what are the alternatives? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jiz2lp5qU8 #clowncomputing #gafam #surveillance
[23:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Switching from Google Photos: what are the alternatives? - YouTube
[23:22]	techrights-bot	Free social deduction hacking game Untrusted enters Early Access | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/free-social-deducation-hacking-game-untrusted-enters-early-access #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming
[23:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free social deduction hacking game Untrusted enters Early Access | GamingOnLinux
[23:22]	techrights-bot	#Factorio 1.1 update is out with blueprint flipping, performance upgrades | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/factorio-11-update-is-out-with-blueprint-flipping-performance-upgrades #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
[23:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Factorio 1.1 update is out with blueprint flipping, performance upgrades | GamingOnLinux
[23:24]	techrights-bot	Emmanuel Kasper: Playing #Tetris over serial console http://meta.libera.cc/2021/01/playing-tetris-over-serial-console.html #games
[23:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meta.libera.cc | ::meta synthax::: Playing Tetris over serial console
[23:24]	techrights-bot	"Concurrency problems appear when your code is executed by more than one thread. Then, in contrast to a single-threaded execution, your code might behave differently depending on when and which thread accesses a variable." http://knowledgebasement.com/what-are-concurrency-problems-and-how-to-avoid-them-in-java/
[23:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowledgebasement.com | What are concurrency problems and how to avoid them in Java |
[23:33]	techrights-ipfs	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.73   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.56 swarm size (avg): 256.73  
[23:36]	techrights-bot	The 15 Best Linux #Music Player Apps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147077 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/30/#latest
[23:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 15 Best Linux Music Player Apps | Tux Machines
[23:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[23:37]	MinceR	(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/29/e3df003aa916bf21.mp4
[23:38]	techrights-bot	#GNOMEShell Merges Its New Horizontal Workspaces http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147078 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/30/#latest
[23:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Shell Merges Its New Horizontal Workspaces | Tux Machines
[23:40]	schestowitz	MinceR: based on the cutting of the video, I reckoned s/he abandoned or managed to drive away shortly afterwards.
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[23:41]	MinceR	:>
[23:42]	schestowitz	open the goddamn (swimming) trunk
[23:44]	techrights-bot	Games: Untrusted, Factorio, Steam Festival, and Tetris http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147079 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Games
[23:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Untrusted, Factorio, Steam Festival, and Tetris | Tux Machines
[23:44]	techrights-bot	#Fedora Community Blog: Fedora @ #FOSDEM : how you can participate https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-fosdem-how-you-can-participate/ #ibm #redhat
[23:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora @ FOSDEM: how you can participate Fedora Community Blog
[23:46]	techrights-bot	Dirk Eddelbuettel: #RcppDate 0.0.2: Regular Update http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/01/30#rcppdate_0.0.2 #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly
[23:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box
[23:47]	techrights-bot	#Arduino Controlled Ambient Light Chameleon | Blathering - CubicleNates Techpad https://cubiclenate.com/2021/01/30/arduino-controlled-ambient-light-chameleon/ #cubiclenate
[23:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arduino Controlled Ambient Light Chameleon | Blathering CubicleNate's Techpad
[23:47]	techrights-bot	The 15 Best #Kodi Apps for Android To Get a Better Kodi Experience https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-kodi-apps-for-android/
[23:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | The 15 Best Kodi Apps for Android To Get a Better Kodi Experience
[23:48]	techrights-bot	How I de-clutter my digital workspace | https://opensource.com/article/21/1/declutter-workspace #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
[23:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I de-clutter my digital workspace | Opensource.com
[23:49]	techrights-bot	#AMD #FreeSync #HDMI Patch Appearing For Their Open-Source Linux Driver - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-FreeSync-HDMI-Patch #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/30/#latest
[23:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD FreeSync HDMI Patch Appearing For Their Open-Source Linux Driver - Phoronix
[23:50]	techrights-bot	Linux Patches Look To Restrict Modules From Poking Certain Registers, Using Select Instructions - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Modules-Reg-Ins-Safety #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/30/#latest
[23:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Patches Look To Restrict Modules From Poking Certain Registers, Using Select Instructions - Phoronix
[23:51]	techrights-bot	New #kde artwork by the talented Nuno Pinheiro (pinheiro) still on its way! :-) https://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2021/01/when-you-get-stuck-you-give-it-time.html #gnu #linux
[23:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com | When you get stuck you give it time...
[23:52]	techrights-bot	KDE Consistency: Pick a task for February and blog about it! https://write.as/niccolove/kde-consistency-pick-a-task-for-february-and-blog-about-it #kde #gnu #linux #bsd #freesw
[23:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-write.as | KDE Consistency: Pick a task for February and blog about it! niccolove
[23:53]	techrights-bot	Volker Krause: "The end of your holiday break didnt slow down work on #KDEItinerary , so we have a lot of news again since the last summary blog two month ago!" https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2021/01/30/kde-itinerary-december-january-2021.html #kde
[23:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.volkerkrause.eu | December/January in KDE Itinerary
[23:55]	techrights-bot	Stuff like this is why #intel became irrelevant in many spaces https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/30/snapdragon-888-mobile-hardware-development-kit-ships-with-12gb-ram-256gb-ufs-storage/
[23:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Snapdragon 888 Mobile Hardware Development Kit ships with 12GB RAM, 256GB UFS storage
[23:57]	techrights-bot	#Vivaldi browser updated to 3.6.2165.34 in #PCLinuxOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141761#comment-28025 but it is #ProprietarySoftware and thus untrustworthy
[23:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS Review: This Classic Independent Linux Distribution is Definitely Worth a Look | Tux Machines
[23:58]	techrights-bot	The way out for #GoogleMaps ? Supporting #OPENStreetMap https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/the-way-out-for-google-maps-supporting-openstreetmap/ #osm #google #surveillance
[23:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | The way out for Google Maps? Supporting OPENStreetMap | Stop at Zona-M