●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 ●● ● Mar 30 [00:00] TR News Linux [sic] Foundation CTO has LEFT https://finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-announces-top-global-160000690.html?guccounter=1 [00:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: yahoo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://finance.yahoo.com/news/linux-foundation-announces-top-global-160000690.html?guccounter=1 [00:00] TR Bot Linux Foundation Announces Top Global Executive Speakers for Open Networking & Edge Executive Forum, April 12-14, and New CTO Appointment [00:00] *mib_7qt8hf (~ac3ac726@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:00] TR News Linux [sic] Foundation CFO left the year the Linux [sic] Foundation operated at a loss despite the sellouts [00:01] bnchs why the sic's [00:01] *mib_7qt8hf has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [00:01] bnchs is it called lUNIX [00:01] bnchs lunix [00:01] schestowitz-TR they don't even use unix [00:01] schestowitz-TR but fake unixea and windows [00:01] schestowitz-TR *unixes [00:02] schestowitz-TR they reject Linux [00:02] schestowitz-TR they don't by the product they are called after [00:02] *mib_7qt8hf (~ac3ac726@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:03] matey /me wonders who "they" refers to, and the rest of it for that matter [00:03] TR News No such thing is possible. Tell me all about the round cube... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/ [00:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/ [00:03] TR Bot Democrats propose pro-privacy digital dollar The Register [00:03] *mib_7qt8hf has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [00:03] schestowitz-TR they/them/lunix foundationb [00:03] schestowitz-TR the hypocrites [00:03] matey oh them [00:03] schestowitz-TR who work for the pentagon [00:03] matey idiots yes [00:03] schestowitz-TR but tell me about ethics [00:04] schestowitz-TR i wonder what the backstory is, [00:04] matey the macos foundation [00:04] schestowitz-TR murdock was first LF CTO [00:04] schestowitz-TR that's fine [00:04] schestowitz-TR after that it was people from IBM, SUSE (Rex) etc. [00:04] schestowitz-TR latest was IBM [00:04] schestowitz-TR Dolan [00:05] bnchs what is this horrible chat [00:05] bnchs microsoft is good you know [00:05] matey for me to poop on [00:05] bnchs ok thats why satya is the CEO [00:05] schestowitz-TR wait, or was it chris? [00:06] schestowitz "No such thing is possible. Tell me all about the round cube... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/" [00:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/us_digital_dollar/" [00:06] schestowitz "Cleveland, Ohio, United States SVP and GM of Projects The Linux Foundation" [00:06] bnchs ok you know what [00:06] bnchs this linux foundation shit [00:06] bnchs is starting to be a joke [00:06] bnchs its like more corporate [00:07] bnchs than something [00:07] schestowitz Shubhra Kar [00:07] schestowitz https://linuxfoundation.org/people/#member-3383-info [00:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/people/#member-3383-info [00:07] TR Bot Leadership - Linux Foundation [00:07] schestowitz "He comes to the Linux Foundation from Joyent/Samsung, where as VP of Products, he ran multiple product lines primarily services like Multi-Cloud Kubernetes, Machine Learning, Serverless and Monitoring/Analytics/Logging/Tracing. " [00:07] schestowitz "Previous to Samsung, Shubhra served as VP of Product and Marketing at startups like InfluxData (#1 Time Series platform in the world) and StrongLoop (acquired by IBM) and is also the current Marketing Chair of the Node.js Foundation. He has also held management and technical leadership positions at CA Technologies and Infosys (Indias first startup to bluechip success story)." [00:08] schestowitz ah, OK, chris is at cncf [00:08] schestowitz CTO [00:09] kingoffrance "its like more corporate" well, that was "open source" they got what they wanted [00:09] matey ^ ^ ^ [00:09] kingoffrance i dont say that to beat a dead horse, just because its all lumped together now, detractors will say this is why "open source" doesnt work [00:09] kingoffrance without any trace of irony [00:09] kingoffrance set up strawman, knock it down [00:10] schestowitz SVP and Chief Marketing Officer is quite new [00:10] matey whats the straw man? [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 274.10 [00:10] schestowitz his backgrouns seems benign [00:10] kingoffrance that open source was "grass roots" free software doesnt exist except as part of "open source" "FOSS" [00:11] matey heh [00:11] kingoffrance and if you try to break up ms and linux and open source and free software, you are a homewrecker i guess lol [00:11] schestowitz "Austin, Texas, United States CTO and GM - Products & IT, Founder - LFX.dev The Linux Foundation" [00:12] schestowitz https://twitter.com/shubhrakar?lang=en-GB [00:12] TR Bot ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/shubhrakar?lang=en-GB ) [00:12] matey kingoffrance: open source split off from free software and then spent 20 years saying the former wasnt a "team player" [00:12] schestowitz last "tweet" in january [00:12] matey because it had the nerve to not automatically agree with the people that split off from them! [00:12] kingoffrance ^ [00:12] kingoffrance "A shotgun wedding is a wedding which is arranged in order to avoid embarrassment due to premarital sex which can possibly lead to an unintended pregnancy" [00:12] DaemonFC I take it back. There is one big pile of shit in Chicago. They call it the mayor. [00:13] DaemonFC I had nothing to do with Mayor 50% less jobs and $6 a gallon gas, btw. [00:13] matey due to premarital sex which can possibly lead to an unintended pregnancy <- this really does sound like reproduction as explained by a lawyer [00:13] DaemonFC 500% MOAR crime. [00:13] kingoffrance i was going for first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes linux foundation in a baby carriage [00:14] DaemonFC due to premarital sex which can possibly lead to an unintended pregnancy <- this really does sound like reproduction as explained by a lawyer [00:14] DaemonFC Most heterosexuals have unwanted pregnancies. [00:14] DaemonFC They don't take precautions because 9 months is basically forever. [00:14] DaemonFC So they get kids they didn't even want, over and over. [00:14] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:14] matey homosexuals have extremely few unwanted pregnancies [00:14] DaemonFC Because nobody knows where they come from anyway. [00:15] DaemonFC Something about the heterosexual brain is so perverse that it forgets what got them in that mess the last time. [00:15] DaemonFC homosexuals have extremely few unwanted pregnancies [00:15] matey i think thats an overly broad statement tbh [00:15] kingoffrance i only seen matey recently, so i emphasize i was always a bsd user, never cared for "free software" as such, but i think older ppl at least recognized the shift [00:15] schestowitz https://theorg.com/org/the-linux-foundation/org-chart/shubhra-kar [00:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: theorg.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theorg.com/org/the-linux-foundation/org-chart/shubhra-kar [00:15] TR Bot Shubhra Kar - Chief Technology Officer & GM, Products at The Linux Foundation | The Org [00:15] DaemonFC Yeah, I get to watch everyone else step on the rakes. [00:15] schestowitz I cannot find when he joined [00:15] DaemonFC It's fun. [00:15] kingoffrance older ppl whatever "side" they were on [00:17] DaemonFC America has a lot of problems and immigrants aren't really one of them, unless you count the descendants of the ones who their neighbors didn't like very much so they clunked them over the head and sold them a couple hundred years ago to get rid of the problems in their village. [00:17] schestowitz https://www.cbinsights.com/investor/the-linux-foundation [00:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: cbinsights.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cbinsights.com/investor/the-linux-foundation [00:17] TR Bot The Linux Foundation Portfolio Investments, The Linux Foundation Funds, The Linux Foundation Exits [00:17] schestowitz " [00:17] schestowitz Shubhra Kar [00:17] schestowitz Joyent, InfluxData, CA Technologies, Infosys Technologies, and Tata Communications [00:18] schestowitz " [00:18] schestowitz "Ranny Haiby as CTO of networking, edge & access technologies." [00:18] schestowitz maybe CTO fore that sub-group [00:18] DaemonFC "You mean white people came on a ship and they actually want the ones that are raping and killing other villagers here, and they'll pay us?". [00:18] DaemonFC Now to be sure, white people are to blame for that. [00:19] matey chicago city app: "mr. farmer, please stop reporting 'more blacks' on the chicago city app, we do not consider this a legitimate use of the service" [00:19] DaemonFC LOL [00:19] matey "mr garrison every year you suggest we get rid of all the mexicans and every year we tell you 'no'" [00:20] DaemonFC "You obviously haven't been on the 67 bus recently, where one attacked the driver with a frozen chicken and we had to wait for the ambulance and the police." [00:20] matey frozen chicken? ambulance? [00:20] DaemonFC Yes. [00:21] matey did they have a permit? [00:21] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/man-charged-after-beating-cta-driver-passenger-with-bag-of-frozen-chicken/ [00:21] TR Bot Man charged after beating CTA driver, passenger with bag of frozen chicken | WGN-TV [00:21] DaemonFC Chicago Man has been busy, you know. [00:21] matey well, this is why they ban frozen chicken in the uk [00:21] matey too many people were getting mugged [00:21] DaemonFC CHICAGO Chicago police say a 27-year-old man attacked a CTA bus driver and a passenger with a bag of frozen chicken. [00:21] DaemonFC Caleb Russell boarded the bus last Wednesday afternoon and tried to flirt with a woman. [00:21] DaemonFC When she refused his advances, he hit her with the frozen chicken. [00:21] DaemonFC When the CTA driver came to her rescue, he was kicked and beaten with the chicken. [00:21] DaemonFC His face was damaged so badly, he needed gum surgery. [00:21] DaemonFC Russell is charged with battery and aggravated battery. [00:21] DaemonFC Court records show, Russell was sentenced to two years in prison in 2014 for making a bomb threat on a CTA bus. [00:22] DaemonFC Aggravated battery /USE DDLY WEAPON [00:22] DaemonFC (The chicken.) [00:22] matey could veganism be the answer? [00:23] TR News Arduino goes pro with Linux and a big chip on its latest board http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162945#comment-33231 [00:23] TR Bot Portenta X8 is the first Linux Arduino board | Tux Machines [00:23] DaemonFC Chicago Man attacks CTA driver, passenger, with bag of Beyond Chicken? [00:23] matey oof, thats even worse [00:24] matey because apart from the force trauma he could be allergic to gluten [00:24] DaemonFC They say it mostly tastes like chicken. [00:24] TR News "base power of 150 watts"???? Insane. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/intel_corei9_12900ks/ [00:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/intel_corei9_12900ks/ [00:24] TR Bot Intel counters AMDs big-cache PC chip with 5.5GHz rival The Register [00:25] matey at this point it would probably be easier to just have a list of things that DONT taste mostly like chicken [00:25] matey starting with jumpmeat [00:26] psydruid x86 hardware at this point is totally insane [00:26] psydruid it's only for "gamers" [00:26] schestowitz-TR make more nuclear power plants [00:26] schestowitz-TR for shitcoin and x86 [00:26] schestowitz-TR and for people who drive 10 mile for a latte and toast [00:27] matey the latte i can understand because who has a really good steamer [00:27] psydruid people who buy that hardware should feel the wrath of the frozen chicken [00:27] matey but who needs a barista to make them toast? [00:27] matey (plus avacado) [00:28] matey people who buy that hardware should feel the wrath of the frozen chicken <- or beyond chicken [00:28] matey (if theyre vegan) [00:28] psydruid the coconut touch [00:29] schestowitz-TR tyson chicken [00:29] schestowitz-TR in your face [00:29] schestowitz-TR bites your ear off, too [00:29] matey in soviet russian tyson chicken eats your children [00:30] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NB_CB1p5Q4 [00:30] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7NB_CB1p5Q4 [00:30] TR Bot yewtu.be | I Will Eat Your Children - Invidious [00:30] matey tyson vs. van gogh [00:31] matey this is going to be too easy [00:31] kingoffrance i'll allow it -- mills lane [00:31] schestowitz-TR matey: he bit off more tha he could chew [00:31] schestowitz-TR choo choo [00:31] schestowitz-TR i had 'earios' in my first web site [00:31] schestowitz-TR 1997/8 [00:32] matey when i first read the story i thought it was earsay [00:32] schestowitz-TR ear esr! [00:32] schestowitz-TR ear ear [00:33] schestowitz-TR another tyson, more recent: [00:33] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8gNTVn3Mp0 [00:33] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H8gNTVn3Mp0 [00:33] TR Bot yewtu.be | Fury Explains Why He Licked Wilder's Blood (YouTube Flagged This Video) - Invidious [00:34] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrOo6W-nWT4 [00:34] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KrOo6W-nWT4 [00:34] TR Bot yewtu.be | Tyson Fury Licked Deontay Wilder #TysonFury #DeontayWilder #WilderFury2 - Invidious [00:42] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163126 [00:42] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:43] DaemonFC https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001277/microsoft-windows-11-default-browser-new-options [00:43] TR Bot Microsoft is finally making it easier to switch default browsers in Windows 11 - The Verge [00:43] DaemonFC Microsoft seems to have given up trying to swat down all of the EdgeDeflector clones. [00:44] schestowitz-TR "Easier"? [00:44] schestowitz-TR or "possible"? [00:44] schestowitz-TR This Gates/Microsoft spin machine downplays what happened [00:47] TR News Once again 'FOSS'life Team promotes proprietary software, vendor lockin, and worse things for Microsoft's criminals. This isn't FOSS. It's spitting on FOSS and on dignity. https://www.fosslife.org/load-testing-github-actions [00:47] TR Bot Load Testing with GitHub Actions [00:50] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: leaving) [00:53] TR News Notice how they never arrest CEOs for the same; they do not even prosecute them (e.g. Intel CEO, Microsoft executives...) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/twilio_insider_trading/ [00:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/twilio_insider_trading/ [00:53] TR Bot Twilio developer trio charged with insider trading The Register [00:54] TR News GNU Poke Release and Video Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163127 [00:54] TR Bot GNU Poke Release and Video | Tux Machines [00:58] DaemonFC https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-human-waste-feces-homeless-Reddit-13044317.php [00:58] TR Bot '20 pounds of human waste' dropped on San Francisco street corner [00:58] DaemonFC https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/18/san-francisco-poop-problem-inequality-homelessness [00:58] TR Bot Why is San Francisco ... covered in human feces? | Nathan Robinson | The Guardian [00:58] DaemonFC https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-02/san-francisco-s-sidewalk-poop-crisis-explained [00:58] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [00:58] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-homelessness-poop-graffiti-2018-11 [00:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-homelessness-poop-graffiti-2018-11 [00:58] TR Bot San Francisco Has Poop Graffiti on Streets and Sidewalks [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 58.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 234.68 [00:59] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU_SPdPVr88 [00:59] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wU_SPdPVr88 [00:59] TR Bot yewtu.be | Triumph The Insult Comic Dog Poops On Voters - Invidious [00:59] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVmu6uHEDHI [00:59] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wVmu6uHEDHI [00:59] TR Bot yewtu.be | Aliens 1986: The Best Shootout Scene 4K - Invidious [00:59] DaemonFC mjg59_, ^ [00:59] DaemonFC :) ● Mar 30 [01:01] DaemonFC "Difficult Street People" [01:01] DaemonFC Sounds like a good name for a band, doesn't it? [01:04] DaemonFC MinceR, So Mandy was reading a site that said, "I lost a testicle in an accident. Does that make me weird?". I said, "Well, the other one will compensate for it. Funny how nature prioritizes for backups, isn't it? You lose one heart, you die. You lose one testical, you can still reproduce.". [01:04] DaemonFC *testicle [01:04] DaemonFC But I mean, like, why two of THAT? [01:04] DaemonFC If one works, why two? [01:05] DaemonFC Why not a binary circulatory system? [01:06] DaemonFC https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-a-binary-circulatory-system-over-an-unary-circulatory-system [01:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: quora.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-a-binary-circulatory-system-over-an-unary-circulatory-system [01:06] TR Bot are the advantages and disadvantages of a binary circulatory system over an unary circulatory system? - Quora [01:06] DaemonFC I guess this works though. [01:06] DaemonFC As for The Doctor, the second heart doesn't make much sense. Time Lords regenerate instead of dying. [01:07] schestowitz-TR anyway, enough of this shit [01:07] DaemonFC What's the point in limping around with half your circulatory function when you can just regenerate? [01:07] schestowitz-TR back to tech [01:08] TR News Fixes? It's a bug. Remove the bug. Remove Windows. https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/fixes-for-slow-context-menu-on-windows-11/ [01:08] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/fixes-for-slow-context-menu-on-windows-11/ ) [01:08] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The shitstorm did, in fact, go to the mayor's office. Perhaps they should call in the National Guard for the War on Shit. [01:09] DaemonFC Okay, I'll stop now. [01:10] *matey has quit (connection closed) [01:11] TR News Gulag resumes shoveling stuff into its 'Privacy Sandbox' - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/google_privacy_sandbox/ Source: theregister [01:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/google_privacy_sandbox/ [01:11] TR Bot Google resumes shoveling stuff into its 'Privacy Sandbox' The Register [01:11] TR News Take the next step in "living liberation": watch the LibrePlanet 2022 videos today! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163128 [01:11] TR Bot Take the next step in "living liberation": watch the LibrePlanet 2022 videos today! | Tux Machines [01:12] DaemonFC https://www.incredibleegg.org/recipes/cooking-lessons/can-i-freeze-eggs [01:12] TR Bot Can You Freeze Eggs? | Incredible Egg [01:12] DaemonFC I might beat and freeze some eggs. [01:12] DaemonFC With all of the Bidenflation going on, couldn't hurt.... [01:27] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [01:43] activelow DaemonFC> Okay, I'll stop now. [01:43] activelow obviously not [01:44] activelow DaemonFC: what are you doing, other than injecting your wisdom into here? 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[03:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 391.40 ● Mar 30 [04:01] DaemonFC https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/28/well/live/gaslighting-doctors-patients-health.html [04:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/28/well/live/gaslighting-doctors-patients-health.html [04:01] TR Bot What Is Medical Gaslighting and How Can You Elevate Health Care - The New York Times [04:01] DaemonFC BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT [04:02] DaemonFC I had a doctor completely ignore my blood pressure. Figured I'd save money and just go down to the Health Department. You get what you pay for. Plus, with all of the liberal indoctrination going on..... [04:02] DaemonFC I mean to get a job with the state government you basically have to be a Democrat Party sycophant. [04:02] DaemonFC I haven't seen a single person working for the county who isn't. [04:04] DaemonFC "Mrs. Rishe, who lives in Los Angeles, found a highly recommended cardiologist in the Midwest and flew there to see him. He immediately dismissed her symptoms, she said. People who have these heart conditions arent this sick, she remembers him saying. He prescribed a new heart medication, told her to exercise and sent her home. [04:04] DaemonFC Unsatisfied with her care, Mrs. Rishe saw yet another doctor, who ordered extensive tests that found her arteries were spasming from a lack of oxygen. I was basically having mini-heart attacks, whenever I was having chest pain, she said. Two months later, she had open-heart surgery to correct the problem, which she later learned may have saved her life." [04:04] DaemonFC Obviously everyone who has ever encountered a stupid doctor with a degree on the wall is a victim of "racism", like my mother, who is white, and had a doctor laugh at her skin cancer, and then she got a second opinion and they started treatment right away. [04:05] DaemonFC That was in 1986 and the only reason she's alive today is because she didn't stop with the doctor that refused to treat her and said that it was a benign growth. [04:06] DaemonFC I mean, there's a lot of doctors out there who really shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine. Just because you found one doesn't mean they're racist, or homophobic, or whatever. [04:07] DaemonFC And just think about how if you were lucky to survive them, how many patients are not smart enough to go somewhere else, who that doctor ultimately kills, while making the payments on his Lexus. [04:09] DaemonFC When I wanted to get on PrEP medication in Chicago, I found a doctor, who refused to treat me. Instead of filing a lawsuit, I just didn't go back to that doctor again. His name is John Nicholas. [04:09] DaemonFC Err, Nicolas... [04:09] DaemonFC https://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/faculty-profiles/az/profile.html?xid=12420 [04:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: northwestern.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/faculty-profiles/az/profile.html?xid=12420 [04:09] TR Bot John D Nicolas : Faculty Profile: Faculty Profiles: Feinberg School of Medicine: Northwestern University [04:10] DaemonFC That's right, in CHICAGO, you have to go to a clinic where the doctors actually do their job and treat the patient. There's plenty of homophobic doctors in Chicago. [04:10] DaemonFC But you'll never prove it even if it is against the law, so don't bother. [04:11] DaemonFC "Studies have shown that compared with men, women face longer waits to be diagnosed with cancer and heart disease, are treated less aggressively for traumatic brain injury, and are less likely to be offered pain medications." [04:12] DaemonFC This is actually not true at all. [04:12] DaemonFC Men are more likely than women to be undiagnosed and untreated for everything in the first place because they're less likely to be insured, go to the doctor, and complain about things loudly enough to be taken seriously and treated. [04:13] DaemonFC "People of color often receive poorer quality care, too." [04:14] DaemonFC That is probably true, but it's not what it looks like. Black people are less likely to be insured, but the government lowered the uninsured rate by giving them Medicaid, which pays like nothing. One doctor told me she couldn't accept Medicaid because it doesn't even pay enough to cover the billing department submitting a claim. The state of California pays $4 for a well child visit. [04:15] DaemonFC And if you don't bill a Medicaid patient to Medicaid, you can be charged with fraud, so there's not only nowhere to use it, but it locks you out of charity care once you sign up. [04:15] DaemonFC The liberals managed to fuck this up too, even though it costs a fortune. (Second most expensive item on the California state budget after education is Medicaid.). [04:17] DaemonFC The ones in Illinois aren't far behind California. They want to spend $250 million a year on Medicaid for illegal immigrants, even though the program has utterly failed. [04:18] DaemonFC "For instance, Dr. Spencers research suggests that women are twice as likely as men to be diagnosed with a mental illness when their symptoms are consistent with heart disease." [04:19] DaemonFC If you go to the hospital and they say anything about having "psych" talk to you, leave. And if you can't leave, don't talk to them. [04:20] DaemonFC "Women may be misdiagnosed more often than men, in part, because scientists know far less about the female body than they do about the male body, even though there are biological differences that go down to the cellular level, said Chloe Bird, a senior sociologist at Pardee RAND Graduate School who studies womens health." [04:20] DaemonFC Oh boy, don't tell our resident failed biologist that! [04:20] DaemonFC Gender is all in your head. There's absolutely no biology involved. [04:21] DaemonFC ;) [04:22] DaemonFC "And see another doctor if you feel dismissed, Dr. McGregor said. You might even want to consider seeking out a woman physician or a provider with better cultural competence, who may better understand your perspective and language." [04:23] DaemonFC 100% agree with if your doctor is an idiot who ignores your very real symptoms of disease (hypertension is not difficult to diagnose), leave. [04:23] DaemonFC But the second part is just sexism. [04:24] DaemonFC In my experience, there's about as many incompetent female doctors as there are incompetent male doctors. So it's not really like choosing a doctor based on their gender is going to help you much. It's all luck of the draw. [04:28] mjg59_ "failed biologist"? [04:43] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [04:47] DaemonFC If someone were to say that gender is purely a state of mind. [04:49] DaemonFC Gender dysphoria is, of course. [04:51] DaemonFC mjg59_, I have an idea for San Francisco. They can start distributing Airtags for the shit, and then the city can use Find My Shit to find the shit. [04:55] MinceR "have you noticed that their stuff is shit and your shit is stuff?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac [04:55] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac [04:55] TR Bot yewtu.be | George Carlin Talks About "Stuff" - Invidious [04:57] DaemonFC MinceR, San Francisco is number one in America in piles of shit per capita. [04:58] DaemonFC New York City was second, with 160 times fewer shit on the sidewalk complaints per capita. [04:58] MinceR is this metric based solely on complaints? [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 95.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 416.20 [04:59] DaemonFC Yeah. [04:59] MinceR that could skew things [04:59] MinceR maybe people somewhere are more used to shit on the sidewalk and/or don't mind it as much [04:59] MinceR or they think complaining won't help ● Mar 30 [05:00] DaemonFC It's been going on for years in San Francisco. [05:00] DaemonFC In 2019, there were 35% more complaints about human shit on the sidewalk than in 2018 according to the city's app. [05:01] DaemonFC Of course, more people could be installing the app specifically to complain about a volume of shit that is staying roughly the same. [05:02] MinceR also, do they report number of turds, volume of shit, mass of shit or some other metric? [05:03] DaemonFC Density, size, whether it tested positive for COVID-19.....? [05:03] MinceR :> [05:04] MinceR if only count is reported, high amounts could coalesce into a smaller number of turds [05:09] *oarion7 (anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [05:11] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:12] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Your accusation that I'm a failed biologist is because you (someone who has no qualifications in biology) disagree with me (someone who has a PhD in biology)? [05:12] mjg59_ Not trying to appeal to authority by asserting that this means you're wrong, just trying to understand what your actual argument is [05:14] DaemonFC It seems people with a degree are deliberately lying about what gender and sex are for political brownie points to me. [05:23] MinceR [05:26] activelow anyway, digging, Aboriginal Linux is dead too: [05:26] activelow http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html [05:26] TR Bot [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project. [05:27] *alextee (~alextee@t48ica27td84g.irc) has joined #techrights [05:27] activelow seems to have been both, which coincides with the timeline of GCC switching to c++ as one technical issue, besides GPLv3, and a load of other problems [05:28] activelow gcc-4.7 was year 2013, three years later another crucial project vanished [05:28] DaemonFC GCC has been falling apart for years. [05:28] DaemonFC When your debugger crashes and needs debuggering. [05:29] activelow binutils too, it seems, according to the email [05:29] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:29] *alextee (~alextee@kzh7t76mzn7gu.irc) has joined #techrights [05:30] activelow i am not too optimistic yet, about TinyCC; still was hunting some minor bugs with the gcc-4.7 toolchain, and need some more days or a week or two for some other taks [05:30] activelow tasks [05:30] DaemonFC Nobody even talks about Kubuntu anymore. [05:30] DaemonFC Well, that's a shame. [05:30] activelow irelevant, it's the compiler/toolchain with unresolved issues [05:31] activelow which affects almost _all_ projects, including *BSD, all linux distros, everything [05:32] activelow "been playing a little with LLVM, maybe I should do more of that,but it's a giant hairball nightmare written in C++"... well gcc too is nowadays [05:33] activelow anyway, other than TinyCC (and mostly unmaintained PCC from SCO) there is little to nothing remaining, as a reliable toolchain to rely upon, long-term [05:33] activelow and, with C11 creeping into, the situation will become worse [05:35] activelow GPL3 too is a problem, not for me, which is the requirements for dual-licensing often with it; not sure what FSF had been thinking [05:35] activelow because, how should GPL3 prevent tivoization, assuming if it is the copyright-holders which may enforce GPL, and if those had no interest in enforcement then GPLv3 is moot anyway [05:36] activelow however, the dual licensing is annoying, none of my concerns; [05:40] activelow wake me up when TinyCC becomes a GNU project, with support from FSF, and kernel maintenance for it [05:41] activelow soon i'll iteratively swap GCC with TinyCC with the base-system package set here, knowing already what fails and requires hacks (musl, gcc, kernel) [05:41] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [05:41] activelow there is another 700+ packages to verify, and see if it is somewhat stable, for aarch32 and aarch64 [05:42] activelow which is the c-only profile [05:42] activelow would be cool, if binutils too can be kicked out, since TinyCC got a linker, ar, as [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 629.08 [05:59] DaemonFC I suppose it's lost on the idiots running Germany that in their mad rush to ruin the economy of the former East Germany that they tore down perfectly usable nuclear power plants. ● Mar 30 [06:00] DaemonFC And that they, in fact, set up this entire energy crisis with the Russian gas. [06:01] activelow DaemonFC: why not stay on topic? [06:01] activelow http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html [06:01] TR Bot [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project. [06:01] DaemonFC Landley isn't really my favorite person. [06:01] DaemonFC He takes cash to assist GPL violators. [06:03] DaemonFC Well, I see my upstairs neighbors are cooking something. The fire alarm is going off. [06:03] DaemonFC That means it's done. [06:03] activelow again steering towards off-topic, Landley support GPL2 [06:04] DaemonFC He helps companies like Sony dodge the consequences of GPL violation with that Toybox thing. [06:04] activelow since FSF prominence presence here, i would be curious, about both technical issues escalating since 2013, and the political strategy [06:04] activelow http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html [06:04] DaemonFC Sony ought to be sued for XCP again if the lawsuit against Vizio succeeds. [06:04] activelow DaemonFC: it is the authors of a software to enforce GPL, and if FSF isn't the author or mandated to enforce there isn't any violation to begin with [06:05] DaemonFC They included source code under the LGPL in it, in violation of that license. [06:05] DaemonFC That's not necessarily what US law says. [06:05] activelow Author's rights are _international_ law [06:05] DaemonFC Vizio is being sued in a court in California. [06:05] DaemonFC There's no such thing as international law. [06:06] activelow of cause there is, Berne Convention, authors' rights [06:06] DaemonFC There are various agreements, but United States law is supreme and controlling here. [06:06] DaemonFC The US Supreme Court has said as much. [06:06] activelow anyway, that's again steering towards off-topic [06:06] DaemonFC International agreements that violate the US Constitution or US laws are therefore null and void as far as their bearing on domestic law. [06:07] DaemonFC Congress can also repeal treaties if it wants to, but those treaties usually have some mechanism for the president to do it by himself. [06:07] activelow GPL2 is a license, not law, and of authors chose not to enforce it, their own software (not any FSF had written), then there is no violation of law [06:07] activelow *and if [06:08] DaemonFC But in no way, shape, or form does any alleged "international law" control an author's copyright in the US if their claim violates US law. [06:08] DaemonFC It's only valid insofar as their rights under US law are concerned. [06:09] activelow it is author's rights, including a license an author may or may not chose for software written himself, or chose to enforce or not [06:09] DaemonFC Germany has a somewhat "unique" perspective on copyright law. It's cute, but it also doesn't apply to me. [06:10] activelow if kernel developers choose GPL2, FSF has that much authority over this decision: 0, zero, none, nil [06:10] DaemonFC They don't have any particular rights that a US person wouldn't have. [06:10] DaemonFC Right, but users can sue a GPL violator. [06:10] activelow and if kernel developers chose not to enforce GPL2 with tivoized products, then that's the decision of the authors of the software, not the FSF [06:10] DaemonFC It goes under contract law at that point. [06:10] DaemonFC The GPL is an enforceable contract with the user. [06:11] activelow on which legal basis should a user sue whom for what? [06:11] DaemonFC Well, the author and the user both have enforcement rights. [06:11] DaemonFC It's just whether it's under copyright law or contract law. [06:12] DaemonFC In the Vizio case, what's most likely to happen is that Vizio will be compelled to "perform" their "contractual obligations" to the user under the GPL. [06:12] activelow besides author's rights, berne convention, which is the author decides, which license, which terms, not the FSF [06:13] DaemonFC I didn't say someone else could change the license. That can't typically happen unless something else has occurred that gave them a way to do that. [06:13] DaemonFC For example, the default language of the GPL is "this version or any later version" and the default language of the LGPL is "this version, any later version, or the GPL". [06:14] DaemonFC It has an option to convert it to the full GPL. [06:14] activelow i fundementally disagree with tivoization; however, somehow, this is what users and developers deserve, given their poor judgement which hardwaer was acceptable and which wasn't [06:14] activelow remembering RMS posing with IBM Wintel Laptop [06:14] DaemonFC One that thad the firmware totally replaced, but yeah sure. [06:15] activelow wow, impressive. [06:15] activelow i mean, this shows, where FSF is standing. [06:15] DaemonFC That particular model had a free firmware and had the Management Engine disabled, and had free firmware for the wifi and everything. The wifi that came with the laptop was obsolete, so they dug in and changed to a different chip that had free firmware. [06:16] DaemonFC If you load a firmware that borks the management engine, it's no longer a threat. [06:16] activelow along the lines of argument you present here, DaemonFC, inentionally distracting, from the fact, the toolchain _all_ "free" software projects rely upon is approaching a state, which i am not willing to git-pull anymore [06:16] activelow same with linux kernel [06:16] DaemonFC The Linux kernel has always been full of non-free crap. [06:16] DaemonFC And it's gotten worse every release. [06:17] DaemonFC The FSF can't write replacements for tens of thousands of firmware blobs where the manufacturer won't tell anyone anything about the hardware. [06:17] DaemonFC But it does sponsor a de-blobbing script. [06:18] activelow the FSF is a misnomer from the beginning, because free software cannot be separated from hardware (which is an artificial, political distinction, not a technical one as such, an engineer would know) [06:18] DaemonFC So it sounds like you're saying since they can't rid the Earth of every proprietary program, they should give up trying to do anything. [06:19] activelow instead, FSF served, with GCC, to implement a load of extensions for proprietary malicious hardware extensions (IBM Wintel mainly) [06:19] DaemonFC Well, of course they support x86 extensions. [06:19] activelow in fact, GCC became a utility, for proprietary/malicious systems, intentional or not, my opinion [06:19] DaemonFC x86 is the most popular CPU architecture, by far. [06:20] activelow and the last open-source one is some real-mode i8086 system, including verilog, which again requires proprietary Altera stuff [06:20] activelow anyway [06:20] DaemonFC And the others you're likely to use are probably worse unless you buy something from China that nobody's ever heard of. Stallman did that, eventually, after getting rid of the deblobbed ThinkPad. [06:21] DaemonFC He was using a laptop with a Loongson CPU. [06:22] activelow let's try to keep this on-topic for a day [06:22] activelow http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html [06:22] TR Bot [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project. [06:23] activelow would be curious too, what mjg59_ thinks [06:24] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [06:28] mjg59_ GPLv3's power has been reduced by corporations rejecting it, which is not surprising but still [06:28] mjg59_ But I think the real problem was that GFDL was a terrible error [06:29] DaemonFC Corporations rejecting it doesn't really matter. It was designed so they'd accept it or have to avoid it and spend time and money writing their own stuff. [06:29] DaemonFC Apple replaced Samba with some shit that doesn't even work and crashes the Mac. [06:29] mjg59_ And the community was less willing to trust the FSF over GPLv3 as a result [06:29] mjg59_ Like, GFDL was a fucking huge fight between the FSF and Debian [06:30] DaemonFC Now that Samba is ditching SMBv1 entirely and some later extensions, and Apple has been saying use SMBv1 as a workaround so they don't have to fix the Mac.... [06:30] mjg59_ That was the first meaningful split between Debian and the FSF other than non-free [06:30] DaemonFC It'll be a bad time to be a Mac user if you need SMB. That's for sure. [06:30] mjg59_ And it was the first where Debian was explicitly rejecting the FSF [06:31] mjg59_ So a whole set of people who should have been naturally aligned with the FSF were instead primed to think their new licenses were bad [06:31] DaemonFC Well, I'd like to use something else, but mainly the reason I won't use Ubuntu is because of the huge Microsoft ads they're paid to put there. [06:32] DaemonFC And recommending WSL, which is hilarious because it's not a solution. [06:32] DaemonFC I used to use Ubuntu, but when I came back and saw Microsoft ads all over it, I knew they probably wouldn't be around long. [06:33] DaemonFC Anyone who partners with Microsoft isn't around very long to tell about it. [06:33] DaemonFC Roy lost a lot of his bashers, you know, when Novell went POOF. [06:33] DaemonFC And the Mono "community" stopped immediately. [06:34] DaemonFC And there's tons of GPLv3 things in a GNU/Linux distribution. [06:34] DaemonFC And even Microsoft ships those. [06:34] DaemonFC The "rejection" you speak of is that they want to harm users in ways the GPLv3 doesn't allow. [06:35] DaemonFC So they can go build their own fucking software to do it with. [06:35] DaemonFC Windows is a clunker and a lemon, but the government and hollywood want to foist it on people due to built-in spyware and DRM. [06:38] DaemonFC The GPL makes DRM and spyware inconvenient, especially with the anti-tivoization clause. [06:39] DaemonFC Inconvenient in the sense it wouldn't work because you'd have to describe how they do work and disclaim that the DRM is an "effective technical measure" under the DMCA. [06:40] DaemonFC So if they avoid it, who cares? It makes them weaker. Apple's SMBX is hardly the only case where they've managed to harm themselves to dodge the GPL. [06:40] DaemonFC And it also shows that when Apple writes a program themselves, they have no idea what they're doing. [06:41] DaemonFC So the best parts of Mac OS were pretty much just swiped here and there by people who only had a vague overall idea of how to piece them together. [06:41] DaemonFC They can't write a replacement for Samba that works, but they're doing system level programming? [06:41] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 90.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 411.05 ● Mar 30 [07:19] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@wuixy7sadn8cq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:20] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, March 29, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:20] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [07:20] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:20] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:32] TR News Sebastian Crane on Distributed (Software) Freedom | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/sebastian-crane-distributed-freedom/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/sebastian-crane-distributed-freedom/ [07:32] TR Bot Sebastian Crane on Distributed (Software) Freedom | Techrights [07:37] TR News Did they forget the biggest criminals, from Microsoft, who likely bribed politicians to go after Microsoft's rivals? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/doj_to_congress_thumbs_up/ [07:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/doj_to_congress_thumbs_up/ [07:37] TR Bot DoJ to Congress: Thumbs up for big tech antitrust bill The Register [07:37] *matey (~matey@925vru5petmta.irc) has joined #techrights [07:37] TR News "The RcppBDT package is an early adopter of Rcpp and was one of the first packages utilizing Boost and its Date_Time library. The now more widely-used package anytime is a direct descentant of RcppBDT. Thanks again for the heads-up!" http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/03/29#rcppbdt_0.2.5 [07:38] TR Bot Thinking inside the box [07:39] matey im (still) on the same side as debian regarding the fdl, but i find it difficult to believe that the fdl had more impact on gpl3 adoption than the anti-gpl3 lobbying and linus campaigning against it [07:40] TR News Microsoft is a company built on crime. Technology is just a side activity. [07:41] matey (if any) [07:42] mjg59_ matey: It meant Debian wasn't naturally aligned with gpl3 [07:42] matey oh i get the argument [07:42] matey it just seems like a stretch. and i sort of passionately hate the fdl [07:43] matey just for being backwards [07:43] matey my position on it is (as far as i can tell) identical to that of debians [07:43] mjg59_ GFDL prioritised the FSF over anything else [07:43] TR News Chrome 100 is out. The version inflation will break lots of code now, assuming an expectation of single- or two-digit version # https://chromestatus.com/features#milestone%3D100 [07:43] TR Bot Chrome Platform Status [07:44] matey howso? [07:44] mjg59_ The whole invariant section stuff [07:44] mjg59_ It was intended to protect FSF advocacy [07:45] mjg59_ The front/back cover stuff was less bad [07:46] mjg59_ But it was the first strong indication that the FSF had its own opinion about what the mission of free software was, without meaningfully discussing that with the people who were doing the most to ship free software to end users [07:46] TR News Fedora Linux 36 Beta now available for download with GNOME 42 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163107#comment-33232 [07:46] TR Bot Fedora Linux 36 Beta Is Out with the GNOME 42 Desktop Environment and Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux Machines [07:46] matey perens: ""FSF, a Free Software organization, isn't being entirely true to the Free Software ethos while it is promoting a license that allows invariant sections to be applied to anything but the license text and attribution. [...] the GFDL isn't consistent with the ethos that FSF has promoted for 19 years." [07:47] matey personally i dropped my fsf membership specifically over their promotion of no-derivs all over the website [07:47] matey im a free software AND free culture advocate, and i feel they misrepresent free culture (with fud) [07:48] mjg59_ The FSF's failure to engage with CC in the very early days was a mistake [07:48] matey im aware of numerous attempts to fix this, which arguably (if only partially) failed [07:48] mjg59_ It's made CC a worse family of licenses [07:48] matey The FSF's failure to engage with CC in the very early days was a mistake <- this i strongly agree with, and have said for many years [07:48] matey it was an enormous loss for both sides [07:49] mjg59_ And then the FSF failed to support Debian in engaging with CC when we tried to fix some basic issues [07:49] matey issues such as? [07:49] matey i mean the fdl counts, i hate it [07:49] mjg59_ CC didn't allow you to put material on DRM-encumbered media even if you distributed a free copy as well [07:50] mjg59_ So it's basically impossible to put CC material on Blu Ray [07:50] TR News Fedora downtime (they outsourced to Amazon, ICBS Clown not good enough): "Serveral virthosts (including the one running pagure.io) are not responding. We are working with datacenter staff to evaluate the issue and bring it back on line. There is no ETA at the moment." [07:50] mjg59_ Even if you also give people a download that they can modify [07:50] matey do you happen to know kat walshs position on that? [07:51] TR News Linux in the Ham Shack Episode #460: Winds of Change https://lhspodcast.info/2022/03/lhs-episode-460-winds-of-change-2/ [07:51] TR Bot LHS Episode #460: Winds of Change | Linux in the Ham Shack [07:51] mjg59_ I think it's evolved since that - the last time I pressed on this was back around 2005 [07:51] matey she worked on cc 4.0 [07:51] matey and was on the fsf board [07:51] mjg59_ But it was basically just Debian, not FSF [07:51] mjg59_ Hey I was also on the fsf board [07:51] matey i realise that [07:51] matey but i dont know if it was at the same time [07:52] mjg59_ We overlapped a little [07:52] matey shes the only person from the fsf ive met in person [07:52] matey twice, purely by chance [07:52] matey long time ago [07:52] mjg59_ But honestly by then it was so an issue from the past [07:53] mjg59_ Urgh how was this 17 years ago [07:54] matey cause we are old [07:54] matey well, not terribly [07:54] matey but i think i was in my 20s when i wet walsh [07:54] TR News it is correct to refer to GNU/Linux as GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163129 [07:54] TR Bot it is correct to refer to GNU/Linux as GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [07:55] schestowitz-TR met [07:55] matey thanks [07:55] schestowitz-TR kind of a bad typo [07:55] matey time for tea, this is an unacceptable level of typos [07:55] matey no its a fucking terrible typo, but ive been tired lately and muscle memory is doing half the work [07:56] matey as evidenced by quite a few typos lately [07:56] schestowitz-TR I could make a joke about the typo [07:56] matey not that my "typemanship" is ever great, its just been particularly bad this week [07:56] schestowitz-TR but any joke would be tasteless [07:56] mjg59_ It would be, yup [07:56] matey I could make a joke about the typo <- yes i could too, but that would only make it worse [07:57] matey when i looked up at the line of text i thought "jesus christ" [07:57] matey and it is now time to make tea [07:58] schestowitz-TR anyway, moving on... [07:58] schestowitz-TR I'm preparing daily "HowTos" [07:58] schestowitz-TR lots of sites with clownflare are now blocked [07:58] schestowitz-TR even their RSS feeds [07:58] schestowitz-TR what a stupid, stupid CND [07:58] schestowitz-TR even puts XML files behind JS challenges [07:58] schestowitz-TR *CDN [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 47.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 81.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 231.11 [07:59] schestowitz-TR so the only alternative is, [07:59] schestowitz-TR put the address of the RSS feed in a browser [07:59] schestowitz-TR and manually check for diffs [07:59] schestowitz-TR this is insane ● Mar 30 [08:00] schestowitz-TR CF: EEE [08:00] schestowitz-TR 'free' CDN [08:00] schestowitz-TR more restrictions [08:00] schestowitz-TR now you must pay [08:00] schestowitz-TR (CF always operates at losses) [08:03] matey even their RSS feeds <- rofl [08:03] schestowitz-TR i think they are now aware [08:03] matey "we think your rss reader might be malware. please solve this capt-- um..." [08:03] schestowitz-TR they basically zapped off all their followers [08:03] schestowitz-TR same thing with sites that outsourced to feedburner (gulag) [08:04] matey "please instruct your rss reader to solve this captcha" [08:04] matey "somehow" [08:04] schestowitz-TR but in the case of CF, they can turn that off [08:04] schestowitz-TR the URLs remain the same [08:05] schestowitz-TR matey: or top move the mouse [08:05] schestowitz-TR technically rss readers are a bit like bots [08:05] schestowitz-TR but gentler and desirable ones [08:05] schestowitz-TR because real humans follow [08:05] schestowitz-TR if there are updats detected [08:06] TR News "The only problem is that this internal drive has just 667.2GB of usable space, which is limited for people who want to install more than a few titles." https://www.addictivetips.com/gaming/how-to-increase-your-ps5-storage-space/ [08:06] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/gaming/how-to-increase-your-ps5-storage-space/ ) [08:08] matey the tea is cajun style today [08:09] matey when i got back to the pan it was down to the leaves with just a bit of simmering moisture [08:09] matey i added water and let it boil for another minute [08:09] matey its actually delicious, but it would be a hazard to make it this way deliberately [08:11] matey technically rss readers are a bit like bots <- of course they are [08:11] matey and the thing about the web is, corporates bots are good [08:11] matey and user bots are bad [08:11] matey because hooray for google, boo for users [08:11] matey google doesnt have to look at ads [08:11] matey users do [08:12] *psydroid8 has quit (Quit: Quit) [08:13] darwin business managers used to be seeking software developers/engineers who were 'ninjas/rockstars' but after the creation of the ninja build tool and rockstar programming language did that trend stop? [08:13] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [08:14] matey business managers used to be seeking software developers/engineers who were 'ninjas/rockstars' but after the creation of the ninja build tool and rockstar programming language did that trend stop? <- heh [08:15] TR News Those are terrible. Get a real mousing device. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-fixes-chromebook-touchpad-not-working/ [08:15] TR Bot 13 Fixes for Chromebook Touchpad Not Working - Make Tech Easier [08:15] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163130 [08:15] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:16] TR News Dont help Putin and Lukashenko silence anti-war voices - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/putin-lukashenko/ Source: accessnow [08:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/putin-lukashenko/ [08:16] TR Bot Dont help Putin and Lukashenko silence anti-war voices - Access Now [08:17] TR News Wait, WHAT? "Face ID with Masks" is a FEATURE?? https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/what-new-features-are-available-in-ios-15-4/ [08:17] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/what-new-features-are-available-in-ios-15-4/ ) [08:20] TR News "This extension revolutionizes how PSOs can be managed by the application, and its the first step towards solving the dreaded stuttering that zink suffers from when attempting to play any sort of game." https://www.supergoodcode.com/release-the-kraken/ [08:20] TR Bot Release The Kraken Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code. [08:21] TR News "Yes, it was 'robwoj44' who internationalized gpptp, but that was version 0.2. Much later, 'jafadmin' created version 2.0, without the internationalization. I have been using 2.0 in EasyOS." https://bkhome.org/news/202203/gpptp-internationalized-now-version-21.html [08:21] TR Bot gpptp internationalized, now version 2.1 [08:23] TR News "It's been hard to write in this space lately because I've been incredibly worn down, depressed, and feeling like I need to quit working for the non-profit I'm running." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-03-29-depressed.gmi [08:24] TR News "Ive been busy since I became unemployed. Not strictly hour by hour, but most days have been rather active. And mostly in pleasant ways." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-29-a-tranquil-exhaustion.gmi [08:25] TR News "Bacardi55 pointed out to me the Usenet. I was touched by the second illiteracy. I used Usenet in the '90s. And now I haven't even know how to go about it. Ancient knowledge, what are the NNTP server addresses now?!" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi [08:28] matey this incidentally, is the main reason i consider fdl non-free https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_FDL#Burdens_when_printing [08:28] TR Bot GNU Free Documentation License - Wikipedia [08:29] matey the article gives a more thorough treatment of the drawbacks than i ever could [08:30] matey im sure you can mirror it somewhere if you want to [08:31] matey copy, get permission, upload [08:31] matey its not a very large website [08:31] matey obviously the irc cannot be mirrored, being dynamic by nature [08:31] SomeH4x0r it is ~ 25 GB, though it has a copy of itself inside, so it is only a half-size actually [08:32] matey and if the hosting is not tied to the registrar, you can just serve it over onion instead [08:32] matey wth is 12.5 gb? ive only seen a few files [08:32] matey is there video there or something? [08:32] SomeH4x0r most of the large files is the music directory and nt5src.7z, I think [08:32] matey /me has seen a front page, a pdf, a few jpgs [08:33] matey nt5src eh [08:33] matey /me thinks of reactos [08:33] matey (that wouldnt be 12gb) [08:34] matey (let alone compressed) [08:34] SomeH4x0r anyway, http://s6b2ebb5zpd6xs3q7ghihc6u4vgaqeeaece7ugckd2q5itxnr43hhqyd.onion/misc/www.executingreality.com_Christopher_Csatlos_01.18.22_07:47:55.7z is a full copy of the website taken recently [08:34] TR Bot not resolve host: s6b2ebb5zpd6xs3q7ghihc6u4vgaqeeaece7ugckd2q5itxnr43hhqyd.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://s6b2ebb5zpd6xs3q7ghihc6u4vgaqeeaece7ugckd2q5itxnr43hhqyd.onion/misc/www.executingreality.com_Christopher_Csatlos_01.18.22_07:47:55.7z ) [08:34] matey is the hosting tied to the registrar? [08:35] SomeH4x0r yes iiuc, but the VPS service expires, not the domain name [08:35] matey oh ok [08:35] SomeH4x0r also he told me not to share the dashboard password to anyone if he disappears [08:36] matey thats probably good advice [08:37] TR News Links 29/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.2 and Official Video Release for LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/gnu-poke-2-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/gnu-poke-2-2/ [08:37] TR Bot Links 29/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.2 and Official Video Release for LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights [08:39] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163131 [08:39] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [08:39] TR News Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163132 [08:39] TR Bot Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack and More | Tux Machines [08:39] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163133 [08:39] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [08:41] matey this i was not aware of: thomas bushnell raised objections to the gnu fdl [08:41] matey he was a hurd maintainer [08:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:44] *bnchs (~bnchs@st38abnxc6jjg.irc) has joined #techrights [08:45] bnchs schestowitz: your twitter got suspended for covid-19 misinformation because usually hatred for bill gates is associated with anti-vaxxers [08:46] bnchs commonly* [08:47] matey twitter was unable to suspend daemonfc because of a race condition [08:47] matey yes its a double entendre [08:48] matey but the idea is that they couldnt figure out which thing was the most offensive, so the algorithm was overwhelmed by choices [08:48] bnchs yeah [08:49] matey similarly, tay didnt stop spewing hatred until microsoft shut it down [08:50] SomeH4x0r bans need to be evaded [08:50] bnchs matey: microsoft's fault [08:50] bnchs tay became an actual nazi [08:50] matey hehehe [08:50] bnchs and racist [08:50] matey good thing they shut it down before ibm thought of hiring [08:50] bnchs maybe part 4chan part [08:51] bnchs part 4chan fault* [08:51] matey maybe [08:51] matey i dont know, i think they made an extremely useful point about machine learning, even if that wasnt the intention [08:51] bnchs it learns off of tweets [08:52] matey a point that is extremely relevant to systems like compas which are actually in production [08:52] matey and unlike tay are actually ruining peoples lives [08:52] bnchs how? [08:53] matey are you familiar with compas? [08:53] matey its meant to assist judges in sentencing [08:53] bnchs oh [08:53] matey but like so much tech they end up letting the computer do the job for them [08:53] matey "computer says no" [08:53] bnchs what if compas has a backdoor [08:54] matey the frontdoor is pretty bad [08:54] matey but thats a fair point [08:54] matey the frontdoor is bias and bad design [08:54] bnchs make compas say not guilty [08:54] matey not unlike tay [08:54] matey the problem with compas is sort of the opposite of what dfc complains about [08:55] matey it amplifies biased and racist decision making [08:55] bnchs just like tay [08:55] matey yes, i wasnt making that part up [08:55] bnchs or any other AI [08:55] matey potentially yes [08:55] matey ai can maximise anything in human decision making [08:56] matey including stupidity and hatred [08:56] bnchs i mean theres ai photo taggers that tagged black people as "gorilla" [08:56] matey but it also encourages superficiality, which is the mechanism behind bigotry [08:56] matey i mean theres ai photo taggers that tagged <- lovely [08:58] bnchs it would be very hard to train AI how to differentiate between gorilla and black people [08:58] matey im not convinced [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 73.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 405.43 [08:59] matey i think the easiest way to get to that point is insuffiicent training ● Mar 30 [09:00] bnchs yeah [09:00] bnchs poor training data [09:00] matey if you train it mostly with data of white people, and throw in a few others, it might stupidly lump the exceptions together [09:00] matey they added a sort of debugger to one machine learning platform [09:01] matey to see how it could tell a dog from a wolf [09:01] matey and they had it show the part of the image it was using in its decision making [09:01] matey turned out the algorithm had latched onto the idea that snow around the animal meant wolf [09:01] matey so it was actually making the decision based on the backgrond, not even the foreground [09:02] matey there needs to be more research like that [09:02] matey to show the limitations of machine learning [09:02] bnchs even then [09:02] bnchs just use your brain [09:02] matey of course, this assumes such research wont be fought tooth and nail by companies that are heavily invested in the technology [09:03] bnchs you're not gonna tag like 1000000 images [09:03] bnchs just use your brain and not AI [09:03] matey theres still a fallacy that ai will be "more fair" than humans [09:03] matey or that it already is [09:03] matey this fallacy goes back decades [09:03] bnchs yeah sure [09:03] matey and can be refuted (even today) with four letters [09:03] bnchs teach the ai to be biased [09:04] matey gigo [09:04] bnchs it becomes biased [09:04] matey exactly [09:05] *inky (~inky@178.78.143.224) has joined #techrights [09:05] matey if the dog/wolf machine had been trained with more images of wolves in grass or laying around in a dog bed [09:05] matey maybe it wouldnt have [09:05] matey then again if theres a wolf in a dog bed, thats not typical at all [09:06] matey so if you want ai to be accurate [09:06] matey you have to figure out what data will make it accurate before you even train it [09:06] matey you have to think of so many things the ai is supposed to think of for you [09:07] matey otherwise the training will be crap [09:07] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:07] matey and down the line lead to big errors [09:07] matey like a dog in snow is a wolf [09:07] matey or a wolf laying in bed is grandma [09:07] matey they should call it the little red riding hood problem [09:08] matey because it doesnt understand that grandma doesnt have giant teeth, it wasnt trained for that distinction [09:09] matey if grandma has giant teeth then it could be a wolf [09:11] bnchs more like why the fuck [09:11] bnchs would you edit a wolf as a grandma [09:11] bnchs just to train ai [09:12] matey the point is that you wouldnt [09:12] matey but as a result, the ai wouldnt know the difference [09:13] matey just like little red riding hood [09:13] matey she should have taken one step in the door and said "fuck no" and run away [09:13] matey instead shes like "grandma, what big teeth you have" [09:13] matey "thats because im a fucking wolf, n00b" [09:13] matey ai is only as good as its training [09:14] matey and how can you anticipate all these things that its supposed to distinguish? [09:14] matey you cant, so bias is going to be as bad or worse than a humans [09:14] matey humans are trained with a lifetime of data [09:14] matey ai? much less [09:14] matey most real people would know a wolf in a grandma costume at first glance [09:14] matey but not an ai-- its a silly example of a real problem [09:15] matey you could call it the clark kent problem too [09:15] matey though maybe the face recognition would be better trained [09:15] matey and ignore the glasses and suit vs the cape [09:15] matey it just depends on the data [09:16] TR News "Now is a great time for the web! I've seen more interesting projects turn up in the last year than I can count, and I feel like we're just getting started." http://www.powazek.com/zoom/log/archive/00000362.shtml [09:16] TR Bot log who you calling boring, punk? [09:17] TR News "Carrey said Smith shouldve been escorted out of the Oscars ceremony after he slapped Rock." https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/ [09:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/ [09:17] TR Bot Carrey Slams Hollywood for Will Smith Standing Ovation After Slap - Variety [09:18] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:18] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:21] TR News Doctor fired from ER warns about effect of for-profit firms on U.S. health care https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/doctor-fired-er-warns-effect-profit-firms-us-health-care-rcna19975 [09:21] TR Bot Doctor fired from ER warns about effect of for-profit firms on U.S. health care [09:25] TR News "Roughly $625 million worth of cryptocurrency has been stolen from Ronin, the blockchain underlying popular crypto game Axie Infinity." https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001620/sky-mavis-axie-infinity-ronin-blockchain-validation-defi-hack-nft [09:25] TR Bot Hack steals $625 million from NFT game Axie Infinitys Ronin blockchain - The Verge [09:26] TR News "The FTC is also asking a federal court to immediately halt "deceptive advertising" immediately, the agency said in a statement." https://thehill.com/policy/technology/600252-ftc-sues-intuit-over-turbotax-free-filing-ad-campaign [09:26] TR Bot sues Intuit over TurboTax 'free' filing ad campaign | TheHill [09:26] TR News
Ubiquiti files case against security blogger Krebs over 'false accusations
[09:26] TR Bot - Ubiquiti files case against security blogger Krebs over 'false accusations' [09:26] TR News "Ubiquiti, a maker of wireless LAN and WiFi routers and access points, has filed a case against former Washington Post employee Brian Krebs" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/ubiquiti-files-case-against-security-blogger-krebs-over-false-accusations.html [09:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/ubiquiti-files-case-against-security-blogger-krebs-over-false-accusations.html [09:27] TR News "The Mandiant report was leaked to American website TechCrunch by Demirkapi earlier and the site carried a report based on it" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/zoom-sacks-sec-researcher-for-posting-okta-breach-report-on-twitter.html [09:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/zoom-sacks-sec-researcher-for-posting-okta-breach-report-on-twitter.html [09:27] TR Bot - Zoom sacks sec researcher for posting Okta breach report on Twitter [09:29] matey im sure theres very little difference between an ai trained with "just enough data" (presumed to be) and a human thats been brainwashed [09:29] matey in terms of quality of decision making [09:29] matey just distinguishing between x or y [09:35] TR News "I am pleased that we found an agreement in principle on a new framework for transatlantic data flows." https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-us-strike-preliminary-deal-to-unlock-transatlantic-data-flows/ [09:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: politico.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-us-strike-preliminary-deal-to-unlock-transatlantic-data-flows/ [09:35] TR Bot EU, US strike preliminary deal to unlock transatlantic data flows POLITICO [09:35] TR News GOOD!! "Facebook owner Meta said on Tuesday it was suspending plans to build a giant data centre in the Netherlands" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/data-center/facebook-owner-meta-puts-plans-to-build-dutch-data-centre-on-ice/90531729 [09:36] TR Bot Facebook: Facebook owner Meta puts plans to build Dutch data centre on ice, CIO News, ET CIO [09:38] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:41] TR News "discovery of numerous effects that are used to make bombs and the mens movements on social media and the internet" https://cphpost.dk/?p=132761 [09:41] TR Bot Two men found guilty of planning a terrorist attack on the Tour de France - The Post [09:44] matey i was thinking about one of the failures of the fsf today [09:44] matey or maybe failure is too strong a word, maybe they simply havent managed it yet (this doesnt mean theyre likely to make progress) [09:45] matey but theyve made progress on free drivers, to be sure [09:45] matey as long as we are talking about x86 [09:45] matey if we take the philosophy (one im mostly sympathetic to and certainly prefer) of the fsf on free drivers [09:46] TR News "Fifty countries get more than a tenth of their power from wind and solar sources" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60917445 that's VERY little and probably does not include vehicles, industry etc. [09:46] TR Bot Climate change: Wind and solar reach milestone as demand surges - BBC News [09:46] matey and you can blame this on oems, i dont mean failure in the same sense as "blame" [09:46] matey just failure as the opposite of success [09:46] matey the fsf is hardly poised to make a lot of progress in terms of various computers [09:47] matey like a raspi can be free as long as you attach a second video adapter (usb?) that has a free driver for it [09:48] TR News "Controversial legislation on free speech on English campuses" https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/english-free-speech-bill-stalls-ministers-remain-committed [09:48] TR Bot Englands campus free speech bill stalls | Times Higher Education (THE) [09:48] matey i think the bootloader depends on the model [09:48] matey i could be wrong about this, id love to be. but on x86 its like-- okay, so your wifi isnt free, attach a usb wifi adapter and youre libre now [09:48] TR News "Emmy-nominated show I hosted for six years for RT America and RT International, has been disappeared from YouTube." https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/hedges-on-being-disappeared/ [09:48] TR Bot On Being Disappeared scheerpost.com [09:49] matey the more we move from x86, the less sure the future of this approach seems. again, this isnt the fault of the fsf so much as the oems [09:49] matey it seems unlikely to fix itself though, and thats bad [09:49] matey maybe there will be a breakthrough [09:49] matey but its like free computing-- provided most computers are avoided [09:50] matey that seems to be the path weve been on since android devices came out [09:51] TR News Lesson of the story: DO NOT OUTSOURCE to 'free' video hosting. Final lesson: Gulagtube is IMPERIALISM. Repeat that. Gulagtube is IMPERIALISM. https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/hedges-on-being-disappeared/ [09:51] matey as usual the hardware people seem to know more about this problem than the fsf, but this problem goes back for many years [09:51] matey i dont think the freedom ladder does much about this other than making the problem seem destined to get better-- where better is we all end up on x86 when we are "ready" to be fully free [09:52] TR News [Old] "Perhaps at this moment you are saying to yourself what the hell has all this got to do with the Academy Awards?" https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/packages/html/movies/bestpictures/godfather-ar3.html [09:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/packages/html/movies/bestpictures/godfather-ar3.html [09:52] TR Bot The New York Times: Best Pictures [09:52] matey its a very large pothole on the road to freedom-- maybe the kind mincer talked about hungary [09:52] matey the car-nivorous variety [09:53] TR News "When it came to picking what nationwide organization to join, the leaders of what is now the [SweatshopZone] Labor Union" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/600279-staten-island-amazon-workers-chart-their-own-path-in-union-drive [09:53] TR Bot Island Amazon workers chart their own path in union drive | TheHill [09:54] TR News euractiv, bribed by famous criminal bill gates, on "rightsholders" [sic] [sic] and "the gatekeepers designated under the DMA" https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/dma-eu-negotiators-split-on-whether-text-covers-access-conditions-for-rightsholders/ [09:54] TR Bot EU negotiators split on whether text covers remuneration for rightsholders EURACTIV.com ● Mar 30 [10:03] *oarion7 (anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [10:09] TR News "Solar lights are a popular garden decoration." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/29/you-can-turn-soft-drink-bottles-into-handy-solar-lamps/ [10:09] TR Bot Can Turn Soft Drink Bottles Into Handy Solar Lamps | Hackaday [10:12] TR News Props to ASUS for marketing repairability as a selling point of their product! https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/props-to-asus-for-marketing:8 Source: rossmanngroup [10:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/props-to-asus-for-marketing:8 [10:12] TR Bot Props to ASUS for marketing repairability as a selling point of their product! [10:13] TR News Attorney General says Right to Repair IS CONSTITUTIONAL: John Deere lie justifies bill https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/attorney-general-says-right-to-repair-is:c Source: rossmanngroupral-says-right-to-repair-is:c [10:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/attorney-general-says-right-to-repair-is:c [10:13] TR Bot Attorney General says Right to Repair IS CONSTITUTIONAL: John Deere lie justifies bill [10:13] TR News Were Being Screwed by Mobile Carriers...because of 5G! https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/carrier-service:9 Source: RobBraxmanTech [10:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/carrier-service:9 [10:13] TR Bot We're Being Screwed by Mobile Carriers...because of 5G! [10:14] TR News US culture sinking to new lows https://boingboing.net/2022/03/29/watch-sickened-jim-carrey-has-strong-reaction-to-will-smiths-slap-at-the-oscars.html [10:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: boingboing.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://boingboing.net/2022/03/29/watch-sickened-jim-carrey-has-strong-reaction-to-will-smiths-slap-at-the-oscars.html [10:14] TR Bot Watch: "Sickened" Jim Carrey has strong reaction to Will Smith's slap at the Oscars | Boing Boing [10:17] schestowitz-TR [09:51] as usual the hardware people seem to know more about this problem than the fsf, but this problem goes back for many years [10:17] schestowitz-TR sometimes I wonder... [10:17] schestowitz-TR If I submitted a talk (I never submit talks in CfP BTW) [10:17] schestowitz-TR and it was titled [10:18] schestowitz-TR the conflict between free speech and free software regulated for corporate compliance [10:18] schestowitz-TR what would be the outcome? [10:18] schestowitz-TR if they say no, they can be criticised [10:18] schestowitz-TR if they say yes, [10:18] schestowitz-TR some people would throw their hands in the air and protest [10:18] schestowitz-TR so the subject becomes a sacred cow [10:19] matey free software - free speech = software [10:19] schestowitz-TR free speech + software = clown [10:19] schestowitz-TR like gulagtube [10:20] schestowitz-TR https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/28/hedges-on-being-disappeared/ [10:20] TR Bot On Being Disappeared scheerpost.com [10:20] matey i dont think clown can be one the right side of that equation if free speech is on the left and not being subtracted [10:21] matey clown = censorship * (!0) [10:21] schestowitz-TR clown = conditional, temporary 'free' [10:21] schestowitz-TR like freenode [10:21] schestowitz-TR now known as libera.chat [10:21] schestowitz-TR it's libera [10:21] schestowitz-TR if we agree with you [10:21] matey almost any speech is temporrarily free [10:21] schestowitz-TR or in freenode [10:21] schestowitz-TR it's about freedom [10:21] schestowitz-TR just don't be republican or something [10:22] schestowitz-TR and it's temporary [10:22] matey i mean you can go right up to putin and say "imma kill you right now motherfucker" and youll be free until the bullets hit [10:22] schestowitz-TR one day the whole thing collapses like identi.ca and joindiapora.com [10:23] matey most censorship takes AT LEAST seconds to go into effect-- sometimes years [10:23] TR News Capitalism's endgame https://robertreich.org/post/680086256324165632 [10:23] TR Bot Robert Reich (The Rise of the Centibillionaires! The word...) [10:23] matey also im not arguing that threatening someone is free speech [10:23] matey only that there is basically zero censorship for at least seconds, in most instances [10:24] TR News Die, poor people https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-uninsured/ see https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [10:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/covid-uninsured/ [10:24] TR Bot Covid-19 Coverage for the Uninsured Is Ending | The Nation [10:24] TR Bot While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation [10:24] matey if its completely automatic and electronic, less than seconds-- but most censorship takes longer to go into effect [10:24] schestowitz-TR meanwhile, oscars became jerry springer show [10:25] matey i stopped paying attention when milk lost best picture [10:25] matey that was a while ago [10:25] schestowitz https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/ [10:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/ [10:25] TR Bot Carrey Slams Hollywood for Will Smith Standing Ovation After Slap - Variety [10:26] matey jim carrey gets weirder all the time [10:26] schestowitz-TR carrey is canadian, right (still) [10:26] schestowitz-TR also, I agree with him [10:26] schestowitz-TR some people get away with violence [10:26] schestowitz-TR because they're "the good guys" [10:26] schestowitz-TR remember [10:26] schestowitz-TR malware has a new name [10:26] schestowitz-TR "protestware" [10:26] schestowitz-TR malware is GOOD [10:26] schestowitz-TR stuxnet good [10:26] schestowitz-TR malware from Microsoft? [10:27] schestowitz-TR "open source" [10:27] schestowitz-TR don't blame Microsoft [10:27] schestowitz-TR and it's protest... "for the lols" [10:27] schestowitz-TR Smith just assaulted him "for the lols" [10:27] schestowitz-TR you know what we saw about countries where comedians are assaulted for "offence" [10:28] schestowitz-TR a lot of humour is based on offense [10:28] schestowitz-TR mind offence [10:28] schestowitz-TR whenn harry wet sally [10:29] matey oh wow [10:29] matey this is just a complete clusterfuck from every single angle [10:29] TR News And it's not inflation. It's just theft. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/us-oil-companies-set-reap-126-billion-extra-profits-amid-war-ukraine [10:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/us-oil-companies-set-reap-126-billion-extra-profits-amid-war-ukraine [10:29] TR Bot US Oil Companies Set to Reap Up to $126 Billion in Extra Profits Amid War on Ukraine [10:29] matey this would be less than 10% of what it now is [10:29] matey if there were any adults left on the planet [10:30] matey first of all, theres zero need for chris rock to call the police on another celebrity slapping him. zero. which he didnt do. but carrey is silly. [10:31] TR News USSA https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/biden-wants-give-163-times-more-us-military-global-pandemic-response [10:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/biden-wants-give-163-times-more-us-military-global-pandemic-response [10:31] TR Bot Biden Wants to Give 163 Times More to US Military Than to Global Pandemic Response [10:31] matey second, a standing ovation is just as ridiculous [10:31] matey third, there was no need from that from chris rock either... but... [10:31] matey hes a comedian that makes a lot of offensive jokes [10:31] matey thats a given [10:32] matey there have been entire plotlines centred around the offensiveness of quoting (specifically) chris rock [10:32] schestowitz-TR yes, mild offense [10:32] matey so overreacting to that is also silly [10:32] schestowitz-TR typo earlier ("mind") [10:32] schestowitz-TR it's getting hard to be funny [10:32] schestowitz-TR as someone might get offended [10:32] matey and i dont know if the slap from smith was really angry or just a joke [10:33] matey either way there was no need for police (and they werent called) [10:33] schestowitz-TR remember what jim does for a living [10:33] schestowitz-TR he too makes jokes [10:33] schestowitz-TR did for decades [10:33] matey yeah but people become less funny when they become a daddy [10:33] schestowitz-TR so unlike smith, who was never funny (not even in fresh prince), he sees this as a bad direction [10:33] schestowitz-TR jerry seinfeld said the same [10:33] matey for example, dana carvey lost about 95% of his edge [10:33] schestowitz-TR their occupation is being blacklisted [10:34] schestowitz-TR oh, oops [10:34] schestowitz-TR I said blacklisted [10:34] matey so unlike smith, who was never funny <- oh i love smith [10:34] matey though hes not much of a comedian its true [10:34] schestowitz-TR don't tell cosmo kramer.... but his tirade was tuly disgusting and now humour [10:34] matey oh yeah that was just a pointless racist tirade [10:34] matey he just flipped the fuck out and started yelling about black people [10:35] matey remember what jim does for a living <- does he still do anything for a living? [10:35] schestowitz-TR not quite [10:35] schestowitz-TR he was provoked by someone in the audience [10:36] schestowitz-TR not that it makes it OK [10:36] schestowitz-TR the context matters a little [10:36] matey context always matters [10:36] matey without context there is no meaning [10:36] schestowitz-TR [10:35] remember what jim does for a living <- does he still do anything for a living? [10:36] schestowitz-TR SNL [10:36] matey does he write for them or something? [10:36] matey i havent followed his career in a decade [10:37] schestowitz-TR wait.. [10:37] matey take your time [10:37] schestowitz-TR he does politics [10:37] matey """politics""" ? [10:37] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsije1KetVw [10:37] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wsije1KetVw [10:37] TR Bot ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wsije1KetVw ) [10:37] schestowitz jim can become target og violent trump fans [10:39] matey unless it was something really painful for jada, smith should have just laughed [10:40] schestowitz-TR look at rick gervais [10:40] matey i dated someone years ago who shaved her head later (african, as in born and grew up there, so this is more common in terms of fashion) but she looked great without hair [10:40] schestowitz-TR he 'killed' [10:41] matey there was a bald woman in the star trek film who everyone (including sulu) was desperately attracted to [10:41] SomeH4x0r I see nicknames, not faces [10:41] schestowitz https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/ricky-gervais-will-smith-oscars-alopecia-b2045788.html [10:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: independent.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/ricky-gervais-will-smith-oscars-alopecia-b2045788.html [10:41] TR Bot Ricky Gervais appears to comment on Will Smith Oscars drama as he shares The Office joke about alopecia | The Independent [10:41] matey and of course, the only thing unattractive about sinead is shes nuts [10:42] *BTcoIn (~5fd6349c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [10:42] SomeH4x0r hi [10:42] schestowitz https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/oscars/ricky-gervais-fires-up-at-oscars-hypocrisy/news-story/e211377e69ddb1b42fe2a44957a8747f [10:42] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/oscars/ricky-gervais-fires-up-at-oscars-hypocrisy/news-story/e211377e69ddb1b42fe2a44957a8747f ) [10:42] SomeH4x0r Clownflare KiwiIRC evil! [10:42] BTcoIn you are evil [10:42] matey look at rick gervais <- omg jokes about the holocaust that made seinfeld look tame, and hes not even jewish [10:42] matey gervais must have a god or something looking out for him, i dont know how he gets away with it [10:42] SomeH4x0r maybe I am too [10:43] BTcoIn what jokes? [10:43] BTcoIn any good one? [10:43] matey no fucking way am i going to try to repeat here [10:43] schestowitz https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10662937/Ricky-Gervais-pokes-fun-Smiths-Oscars-meltdown-shares-alopecia-joke-Office.html [10:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: dailymail.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10662937/Ricky-Gervais-pokes-fun-Smiths-Oscars-meltdown-shares-alopecia-joke-Office.html [10:43] TR Bot Ricky Gervais pokes fun at Will Smith's Oscars meltdown as he shares alopecia joke from The Office | Daily Mail Online [10:43] BTcoIn why? [10:43] BTcoIn are you racist? [10:43] matey what? [10:43] schestowitz https://www.nme.com/news/film/ricky-gervais-reckons-his-golden-globes-speech-ruined-his-oscars-chances-2928130 [10:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: nme.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nme.com/news/film/ricky-gervais-reckons-his-golden-globes-speech-ruined-his-oscars-chances-2928130 [10:43] TR Bot Ricky Gervais thinks his Golden Globes speech ruined his Oscars chances [10:43] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc9q_ddBMhI [10:43] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gc9q_ddBMhI [10:43] matey i dont follow [10:43] TR Bot yewtu.be | Ricky Gervais Reveals How He Would've Opened The Oscars, Reacts To Will Smith Slapping Chris Rock - Invidious [10:44] BTcoIn cause you are dumb [10:44] matey new troll, yay [10:44] schestowitz-TR [10:41] and of course, the only thing unattractive about sinead is shes nuts [10:44] BTcoIn its the fuy from the office thing [10:44] schestowitz-TR some people get attention this way [10:44] schestowitz-TR they need the limelight [10:44] matey i think shes legitimately nuts [10:44] schestowitz-TR to avoid going on narcotics [10:44] schestowitz-TR shave head [10:44] schestowitz-TR convert to islam [10:45] BTcoIn and people like you give it to then [10:45] schestowitz-TR name the most crazy idea... justDoIt(r) [10:45] BTcoIn how dumb ca you be? [10:45] schestowitz-TR Ricky Gervais I did that several times I think [10:45] schestowitz-TR there used to be a medley of all the Ricky Gervais bits [10:45] schestowitz-TR it was so offensive and hilarious [10:45] matey gervais is definitely a comedy genius [10:45] schestowitz-TR and they got shots of the faces of folks he spoke about [10:46] matey on the verge of being a comedy terrorist [10:46] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6UeVptzRg [10:46] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sR6UeVptzRg [10:46] TR Bot yewtu.be | Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes 2020 - All of his bits chained - Invidious [10:47] BTcoIn a comedy terrorist ?^LOL thats a good one [10:47] BTcoIn why is not funny at all? [10:47] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJOb9xHggS4 [10:47] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iJOb9xHggS4 [10:47] TR Bot yewtu.be | Ricky Gervais Golden Globes 2020 (Uncensored, HD) - Invidious [10:47] matey carlin used to say that his occupation was originally called "fool" [10:47] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5ATl5X3EIE [10:47] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v5ATl5X3EIE [10:47] TR Bot yewtu.be | All of Ricky Gervais Golden Globe Roast Compilation 2010 - 2020 - Invidious [10:47] schestowitz very funny [10:47] matey the court jester was the one person who could openly talk shit about the king to his face and he might not be executed [10:47] schestowitz-TR matey: JESTER [10:47] schestowitz-TR SURELY YOU JEST [10:47] BTcoIn stop spamming yt videos [10:48] BTcoIn do you work at google? [10:48] schestowitz-TR anyway, me back to links [10:48] schestowitz-TR BTcoIn: the people who UPLOAD there might [10:48] schestowitz-TR I don't upload there [10:48] schestowitz-TR as it gives them a monopoly on "content" [10:49] TR News Refusing to kill people isnt a crime https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/30/refusing-to-kill-people-isn-t-a-crime [10:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/30/refusing-to-kill-people-isn-t-a-crime [10:49] TR Bot NO TITLE [10:49] BTcoIn tic gervais is right on the money [10:49] TR News Brave Journalists... https://meduza.io/en/slides/ukraine-s-10-point-plan [10:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/slides/ukraine-s-10-point-plan [10:49] TR Bot NO TITLE [10:49] BTcoIn nvm racisme try rich poor discrimination instead [10:50] BTcoIn or educated / uneducated [10:50] BTcoIn or beutifull / uglly [10:51] TR News They should also go after Microsoft executives for their massive crimes (much worse) https://www.propublica.org/article/ftc-sues-to-stop-deceptive-turbotax-free-ad-campaign [10:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/ftc-sues-to-stop-deceptive-turbotax-free-ad-campaign [10:51] TR Bot FTC Sues to Stop Deceptive TurboTax Free Ad Campaign ProPublica [10:51] BTcoIn who needs racisme anymore [10:51] matey the ovation wasnt even for the slap, it was for winning best actor [10:52] matey carrey should stick to comedy, its what hes good at [10:52] TR News proprietary garbage: How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment https://www.propublica.org/article/how-your-shadow-credit-score-could-decide-whether-you-get-an-apartment Source: propublica [10:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/how-your-shadow-credit-score-could-decide-whether-you-get-an-apartment [10:52] TR Bot How Your Shadow Credit Score Could Decide Whether You Get an Apartment ProPublica [10:53] matey hes about as good at politics as michael jordan was at baseball [10:53] TR News Links 29/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.2 and Official Video Release for LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/gnu-poke-2-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/gnu-poke-2-2/ [10:53] TR Bot Links 29/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.2 and Official Video Release for LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights [10:54] schestowitz-TR matey: he did biden at snl [10:54] schestowitz-TR I put a link earlier [10:54] schestowitz-TR i always found him funny [10:54] schestowitz-TR "smoooooookeeeeen!!!" [10:54] matey hes funny [10:54] matey hes a good actor [10:54] matey hes not so great at what hes doing now [10:55] schestowitz-TR halle berry sobbed [10:55] schestowitz-TR will smith slapped [10:55] schestowitz-TR smith did many other controversial thingsa [10:55] matey whyyyy [10:55] schestowitz-TR and spread misinformation [10:55] schestowitz-TR I've lost count [10:56] matey he did a stint with scientology i think [10:56] matey but i dont think he joined-joined [10:56] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:56] TR News "One of the central justifications for copyright is that it is indispensable if creativity is to be viable. Without it, we are assured, artists would starve." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/copyright-is-indispensable-for-artists-they-say-but-for-all-artists-or-just-certain-kinds [10:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/copyright-is-indispensable-for-artists-they-say-but-for-all-artists-or-just-certain-kinds [10:56] TR Bot Is Indispensable For Artists, They Say; But For All Artists, Or Just Certain Kinds? | Techdirt [10:56] matey i think he promoted them briefly, so they kept singing the theme to fresh prince at the chanology protests [10:57] schestowitz-TR just to be clear, this is on topic [10:57] matey rofl [10:57] schestowitz-TR because it relates to free speech [10:57] schestowitz-TR and how in freesw it's becoming hard to express dissent [10:57] matey i dont disagree [10:57] schestowitz-TR this whole "safe space" thing [10:57] *inky (~inky@31.7.162.99) has joined #techrights [10:57] schestowitz-TR like RMS interrupting is "assault" almost... [10:58] schestowitz-TR RMS never slapped anyone [10:58] schestowitz-TR well maybe not in public [10:58] matey i was happy (though mixed feelings) to see rms speaking at lp even while asking questions [10:58] schestowitz-TR he has a talk coming up [10:58] matey oh im counting the days [10:59] schestowitz-TR i think fsf is trying to quiet down the people who said he isn't talking this year [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 56.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 17.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 285.00 [10:59] matey its the biggest thing on my calendar [10:59] matey i think fsf is trying to quiet down the people who said he isn't talking this year <- thats a reasonable assessment [10:59] matey i dont know if its true, but its reasonable speculation (and could be true) [10:59] matey it could have been already planned ● Mar 30 [11:00] TR News IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/irc-log-290322/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/irc-log-290322/ [11:00] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 | Techrights [11:00] matey of course in your article you put "so he is talking every year, either at lp or close to it" [11:00] matey something like that, i can find the exact wording but since im sure youre familiar... [11:00] schestowitz matey: http://techrights.org/2022/03/22/richard-stallman-libreplanet/ [11:01] TR Bot FSF Announces Post-LibrePlanet Speech by Richard Stallman | Techrights [11:01] schestowitz some people from ukraine asked also [11:01] matey im eager to see what he says in april [11:01] matey but im going in with low expectations [11:01] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/rms-libreplanet-enigma/ [11:01] TR Bot Richard Stallman and LibrePlanet | Techrights [11:01] schestowitz same day we published this they announced the new ED of FSF [11:01] schestowitz which they had chosen last year already [11:01] matey being wrong wouldnt bother me-- i think i was mostly (perhaps almost entirely) wrong about the gerwitz talk [11:01] matey im grateful [11:02] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:02] schestowitz zhttp://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/ [11:02] matey same day we published this they announced the new ED of FSF <- im calling it a coincidence [11:02] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/ [11:02] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/libreplanet-2022-without-rms/ [11:02] TR Bot Message to LibrePlanet (From Ukraine) Censored But Not Ignored | Techrights [11:02] TR Bot Personal Views and Hypothesis About the Relationship Between the FSF and Richard Stallman (RMS) in LibrePlanet 2022 | Techrights [11:02] schestowitz matey: yes, likely a coincidence [11:02] schestowitz by default [11:02] matey but you never know [11:03] *inky (~inky@31.7.162.99) has joined #techrights [11:03] matey they finally added cc0 to the gpl compatible list shortly after i bothered them about it [11:03] matey and i "bothered" them nicely/cordially [11:03] matey ill never know if the two had anything to do with each other. its a known fact they were already working on it (for a long time) [11:04] matey then karl fogel fucked up the osi side of it [11:04] matey making special pleading arguments AGAINST cc0 [11:04] matey which were just stupid. to cancel cc0 from osi they had to hold it to a higher standard than other gpl-compatible licenses [11:04] matey complete sabotage-- probably not deliberate, but very stupid [11:05] matey so only "sabotage" in terms of bungling, not "real" sabotage [11:05] TR News "In Wisconsin, the states top court says [PDF] cops dont need to worry too much about suppressed evidence" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/wisconsin-supreme-court-sees-nothing-wrong-with-cops-acquiring-evidence-a-court-had-already-suppressed/ [11:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/wisconsin-supreme-court-sees-nothing-wrong-with-cops-acquiring-evidence-a-court-had-already-suppressed/ [11:05] TR Bot Supreme Court Sees Nothing Wrong With Cops Acquiring Evidence A Court Had Already Suppressed | Techdirt [11:05] matey so cc0 is public domain, in every sense [11:05] matey but not open source. [11:06] matey its also gpl compatible [11:06] matey but not open source [11:06] TR News Grifters (thieves) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/elon-musks-starlink-gets-even-more-expensive/ [11:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/elon-musks-starlink-gets-even-more-expensive/ [11:06] TR Bot Musks Starlink Gets Even More Expensive | Techdirt [11:06] matey and this was a long time ago, allegedly before osi became ridiculous (but it was always ridiculous) [11:07] matey all osi really did was fuck finland out of a swath of free software projects being able to say they were using an osi-approved open source liense [11:07] matey while spreading fud that was legally and factually bunk. [11:08] matey but it also meant that cc0 was a line that (arbitrarily, without any good reason) divided free software and open source licensing. there were worse examples of this. [11:09] matey there was some bs nasa license that fsf correctly rejected and osi welcomed with open arms, being a bunch of tools [11:09] matey it wasnt a free license. [11:09] matey but osi has their own reality, so [11:10] schestowitz-TR i welcomed with open rms [11:10] schestowitz-TR open.... [11:10] matey free+libre rms [11:10] matey still not sure wtf / -> + happened [11:11] schestowitz-TR rms fatrher of the github movement [11:11] matey thats got to be the single most pedantic moment in the history of free software [11:11] matey the github movement! [11:11] matey inspired by the ibm movement [11:11] schestowitz-TR lol [11:12] schestowitz-TR microsoft, make a M.O.V.E. [11:12] schestowitz-TR I was moved [11:13] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing [11:13] TR Bot 1985 MOVE bombing - Wikipedia [11:13] matey yes microsoft is an ororborus movement [11:13] BTcoIn and google [11:13] matey a turd that eats itself, symbolic of a company that will forever be shit [11:13] BTcoIn thats google [11:13] matey oh yes MOVE [11:14] matey i read about that once [11:14] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/ApyXgB9I2f8 (English subtitles) [11:14] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ApyXgB9I2f8 [11:14] TR Bot yewtu.be | (English subs) / @ - Invidious [11:14] XRevan86 "Why [Russian] propaganda is making Russians hate Ukrainians" [11:15] matey how many russians (ballpark percentage) are actually being fooled by this shit? [11:15] matey is it half? 90%? [11:15] XRevan86 matey: Unknown. [11:15] TR News Boycottt Gulagtube https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/digitally-disappeared-youtube-has-deleted-six-years-my-show [11:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/digitally-disappeared-youtube-has-deleted-six-years-my-show [11:15] TR Bot Opinion | Digitally Disappeared: YouTube Has Deleted Six Years of My Show | Chris Hedges [11:15] matey of course [11:15] matey we could only guess, any poll would be rigged [11:16] matey one way to guess would be to talk to a bunch of russians, ASSUME theyre all real and not gov keyboard warriors [11:16] matey and extrapolate (with varying reliability) from there [11:16] XRevan86 matey: Even unrigged polls are deeply flawed because they can't distinguish people who just don't answer polls and people who fear answering the poll honestly. [11:16] matey for example, i dont know any russian speakers who approve of putler [11:17] matey but i think most ukranians speak russian so thats tells me very little [11:17] matey i might simply not know any russians [11:17] XRevan86 matey: At least one. [11:17] matey fair enough [11:17] matey i suppose reactos is keeping quiet about this? [11:18] matey or do they support ukr or something [11:18] matey i know they have major russian contributors [11:18] BTcoIn you dont sign online petitions? [11:18] matey online petitions rarely accomplish anything [11:18] matey ive signed one in a decade [11:18] BTcoIn they accomplished brexit [11:18] matey and it didnt even take [11:18] schestowitz-TR they make lists of people [11:19] schestowitz-TR like the anti-RMS letters [11:19] schestowitz-TR these lists can become a liability to signers [11:19] matey they accomplished brexit <- as i said, online petitions rarely accomplish anything [11:19] schestowitz-TR and assets to intel agencies [11:19] schestowitz-TR that's partly what social control media does [11:19] schestowitz-TR it makes lists of people [11:19] schestowitz-TR and classifies them [11:19] schestowitz-TR like "self-checkout" [11:20] schestowitz-TR "here," said the spies, "the interface works like this.... start typing family member and friends from elementary school" [11:20] XRevan86 matey: I don't have any insights into ReactOS, it's largely unimportant to me. [11:20] matey XRevan86 <- same here, just curious [11:20] schestowitz-TR "we'll give you "likes" to wank over..." [11:20] *BTcoIn is now known as BTcoInk [11:20] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@k5ghkuun6w7re.irc) has joined #techrights [11:20] matey can hardly blame you for being as uninformed about them as i am [11:21] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: we have one reactos dev here [11:21] schestowitz-TR who said they'd welcome putin with flowers if or when he invades serbia [11:21] BTcoInk this channel is right leaned [11:21] matey rofl [11:21] XRevan86 Skimming through the website, it doesn't look like they've made any statement in any direction. [11:22] matey this channel definitely leans left to the earth itself [11:22] schestowitz-TR OS News did [11:22] matey but the earth is a bit wobbly [11:22] schestowitz-TR lots of polish sites did [11:22] schestowitz-TR and polish projects, distros, dev companies [11:22] DaemonFC mjg59_ says that the GPLv3 failed because it either forced companies to disarm or write their own software (which is usually too incompetent to even work at all, such as Apple SMBX) and face ridicule by people who need it to work, who will be forced to flee to something that still does work. [11:22] DaemonFC I'd say it's a success either way. [11:23] DaemonFC Apple losing access to Free Software doesn't hurt us, only them. [11:23] matey id mostly agree [11:23] TR News Theft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/consumers-pay-oil-ceos-refuse-testify-congress-about-soaring-prices [11:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/consumers-pay-oil-ceos-refuse-testify-congress-about-soaring-prices [11:23] TR Bot As Consumers Pay, Oil CEOs Refuse to Testify to Congress About Soaring Prices [11:23] matey Apple losing access to Free Software doesn't hurt us, only them. <- [11:23] DaemonFC The list of bugs in SMBX alone goes on and on. It is clearly not a replacement for Samba. It's designed so it looks like the Mac can still use SMB/CIFS. [11:24] DaemonFC But then it just goes ahead and has a stroke when you try it. [11:24] matey smbs [11:24] TR News Quit calling fakecoins "crypto". Crypto has nothing to do with that scam. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/climate-groups-say-planetary-impacts-crypto-mining-could-be-reduced-99 [11:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/climate-groups-say-planetary-impacts-crypto-mining-could-be-reduced-99 [11:24] TR Bot Climate Groups Say Planetary Impacts of Crypto Mining Could Be Reduced by 99% [11:25] DaemonFC "Entire OS freezes because you tried to access a remote share with file thumbnails turned on." This is nice. [11:25] matey sounds like a windows bug [11:25] matey "it just works" [11:25] DaemonFC "Try to use a modern version of SMB/CIFS and kernel panic." [11:25] matey smbstemd [11:25] DaemonFC Falls back to SMBv1, and Samba removes SMBv1 so the Mac cannot communicate with it. [11:25] matey heh [11:26] DaemonFC Samba: RAISE COMMUNICATIONS BARRIER! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! [11:26] DaemonFC :) [11:26] schestowitz-TR apple may be floundering [11:26] matey broguht to you by the board of sfc [11:26] schestowitz-TR but apple and the media are in spin mode [11:26] schestowitz-TR I wonder how many middle class savers have tied their savings to that bubble [11:26] matey apple may be floundering <- this will make it decidedly non-vegan [11:26] schestowitz-TR they are going to lose everything [11:26] DaemonFC There's only one reason to yank SMBv1 out of Samba. [11:26] schestowitz-TR the rich investors have connectionsa [11:26] DaemonFC And that's to harass Mac users. [11:26] schestowitz-TR inside-trading [11:26] DaemonFC Obviously, I think it's funnier than hell. [11:26] schestowitz-TR they'll be the first to run away [11:26] DaemonFC Because Samba still works with itself and with Windows. [11:27] DaemonFC Those are what matter. [11:27] TR News A guide for developers on #HowTo convert XML files to JSON Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163134 [11:27] TR Bot A guide for developers on how to convert XML files to JSON | Tux Machines [11:27] TR News Ubuntu MATE 22.04 Release Notes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163135 [11:27] TR Bot Ubuntu MATE 22.04 Release Notes | Tux Machines [11:27] TR News Extension Manager GNOME App Adds New Features, New Icon Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163136 [11:27] TR Bot Extension Manager GNOME App Adds New Features, New Icon | Tux Machines [11:28] TR News An Early Look at New Features in Thunderbird 102 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163137 [11:28] TR Bot An Early Look at New Features in Thunderbird 102 | Tux Machines [11:28] TR News AlmaLinux vs Rocky Linux: Which One to Choose? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163138 [11:28] TR Bot AlmaLinux vs Rocky Linux: Which One to Choose? | Tux Machines [11:28] DaemonFC By ditching old SMBv1 and uncommon extensions, they can force Apple to go back and fix SMBX when Apple was fine with calling what they had "done" -or- the Mac drops SMB support totally and has to stop pretending to be a real operating system on another front. [11:28] TR News 33 Excellent KDE Plasma Widgets (Updated 2022) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163139 [11:28] TR Bot 33 Excellent KDE Plasma Widgets (Updated 2022) | Tux Machines [11:29] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Jim "Buy Lehman Brothers Stock!" Cramer says Apple is fantastic. [11:29] TR News This talk is titled Distributing freedom: How package managers empower software users, and was presented at LibrePlanet 2022 by Sebastian Crane. http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/sebastian-crane-distributed-freedom/ [11:29] TR Bot Sebastian Crane on Distributed (Software) Freedom | Techrights [11:29] matey eh, it still wasnt a real os before it dropped flash support [11:29] matey one of the best things they ever did [11:29] matey for all the wrong reasons, like everything else they do [11:29] DaemonFC Flash for Android was pretty terrible. [11:30] DaemonFC It wasn't designed for devices. [11:30] matey it was designed for adobe hegemony [11:30] matey i hated it for the same [11:30] matey hey nice internet you have here, be a shame if we took it over on behalf of a single company [11:30] matey fuck adobe [11:30] DaemonFC Me when I go digging through an operating system: "Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhge!" *starts throwing shit out* [11:30] matey fuck anything that even looks like adobe [11:31] DaemonFC Most P2P networks still work. [11:31] DaemonFC The only thing the RIAA lawyers did was plow the road and get rid of the super shitty proprietary clients that harmed the networks. [11:31] matey Me when I go digging through an operating system: "Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhge!" *starts throwing shit out* <- everybody should do this [11:32] matey whats more, every os should facilitate doing it [11:32] DaemonFC They blew up Limewire. Gnutella still has Free clients. [11:32] matey /me cant believe gnutella gets away with the name [11:32] DaemonFC They blew up the various KAD network clients, but that's still there. [11:32] matey but then again you dont put it on food [11:33] matey at least not in any sense of trademark you dont [11:33] matey puppy linux / puppy chow <- totally different trademarks, different holders, different scopes (yes puppy linux is trademarked) [11:33] matey kauler holds it [11:33] schestowitz-TR [11:29] schestowitz-TR, Jim "Buy Lehman Brothers Stock!" Cramer says Apple is fantastic. [11:33] schestowitz-TR and IBM [11:34] schestowitz-TR or Red Hat [11:34] DaemonFC The reason I don't use legacy P2P networks is because the government likes to poison them. They put things like child pornography in there so they can bust people for it later and then everyone gets too scared that the new Spider Man movie is really CP or something. [11:34] DaemonFC When you use BitTorrent trackers, people can comment on the torrent and say what's truly in it. [11:34] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:34] matey then everyone gets too scared that the new Spider Man movie is really CP or something <- the way hollywood is these days i wouldnt put it past them [11:35] schestowitz-TR it would cause a scandal if they got caught [11:36] DaemonFC That's why they don't get caught. :) [11:37] DaemonFC There are pirate uploaders that are known never to put viruses and shit in their stuff. [11:37] DaemonFC But there's also people who come along and stuff viruses in it and pretend to be that uploader. [11:37] DaemonFC So you have to be really careful. [11:38] matey there needs to be a trusted list of hashes for pirated films [11:38] matey i realise how tricky that would be to maintain. [11:38] DaemonFC NFTs! [11:38] matey ROFL [11:38] matey finally a use for them [11:38] schestowitz-TR it would not work [11:39] schestowitz-TR because you have derivatives [11:39] schestowitz-TR that alter the hashes [11:39] schestowitz-TR esp. to dodge being caught by hollywood [11:39] matey you wouldnt trust the derivatives [11:39] matey the tricky part is maintaining the list [11:39] matey i would say its next to impossible [11:39] matey but next to and impossible arent the same thing [11:39] DaemonFC Yes, hello IRS! I would like to pay my NFT taxes. They are tokens that verify that this is the real FitGirl and that the new season of that TV show is NOT a guy fucking a horse....Please see the 8949 from my accountant as to their value. Thank you! [11:40] matey i consider the nft example to be more hilarious than practical [11:40] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163140 [11:40] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:40] matey solving how to pirate films isnt my area of expertise or a priority of mine [11:41] matey but it would be nice [11:42] matey and it would only solve it long enough for the arms race to continue [11:42] matey either way i wish people would stop supporting hollywood (to the best of their ability) [11:42] DaemonFC Apple TV's originals have been truly ho hum. [11:42] TR News Thunderbird 102 is Getting Several Exciting New Features! Here Are 7 of Them http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163137#comment-33235 [11:42] TR Bot An Early Look at New Features in Thunderbird 102 | Tux Machines [11:43] DaemonFC I haven't seen a single "must watch" thing on there. [11:43] matey /me has given up on tv [11:43] schestowitz-TR sane here [11:43] DaemonFC It's going the way of the music industry. [11:43] matey if it isnt free to watch and trivial to download i do not care. [11:43] schestowitz-TR 20+ years ago [11:43] matey if its got ads i do not care. [11:43] schestowitz-TR hollywood is embedded in everything [11:43] DaemonFC They were talking about having AIs write scripts based on what movies grossed the most money. [11:44] matey if it requires special equipment i do not care. [11:44] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC said netflix priced doubled in 5 years [11:44] DaemonFC So sooner or later it really will all be the same, and instead of having blackbusters, they'll have a bunch of retreads competing with each other for the crumbs. [11:44] schestowitz-TR I did not check [11:44] schestowitz-TR but I heard they are hoking it AGAIN [11:44] schestowitz-TR with password sharing as their excuses [11:45] schestowitz-TR Netflix to DRM SERFS: YOU ARE PIRATES!!!! YOU WILL PAY FOR IT! [11:45] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, No, they're hiking it AND doing a trial run of "We caught you sharing passwords and that'll be another $4.". [11:45] matey NO MOVIE FOR YOU! [11:45] schestowitz-TR ah [11:45] matey COME BACK, ONE YEAR! [11:46] schestowitz-TR so you get punished twice for buying from "official" channels [11:46] schestowitz-TR same for software in russia [11:46] schestowitz-TR better to use WareZ and GameZ [11:46] matey in putlers russia, netflix watches you [11:46] schestowitz-TR at least the companies do not shut you out remoately [11:46] schestowitz-TR those who pay get cutt off [11:46] schestowitz-TR those who don't paint carry on [11:46] schestowitz-TR *don't pay [11:47] matey /me still thinks putlin is better [11:47] schestowitz-TR [11:45] COME BACK, ONE YEAR! [11:47] schestowitz-TR I used to have ALL seinfeld eps on my drive [11:47] DaemonFC those who don't paint carry on [11:47] schestowitz-TR that was ages ago [11:47] DaemonFC Hitler painted, and look what ended up happening to him! [11:47] schestowitz-TR so could watch them like 5-10 times, over the years... [11:48] matey everybody paints the piper [11:48] schestowitz-TR season is 22 or 24 iirc [11:48] schestowitz-TR and episode can be 50mb [11:48] schestowitz-TR 20 mins, coarse [11:48] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, There were video tapes capable of 1080p. [11:48] matey seinfeld was like snl, a lot of it was funny the first time and some of it is still really hilarious [11:48] schestowitz-TR one season, 1gb [11:48] matey and a lot of it was like "wtf is this, this is comedy?" [11:48] DaemonFC The reason they didn't go ahead with it was because it would be harder to make the DRM work, and it cost more than producing discs. [11:48] DaemonFC And there wouldn't be as many patents. [11:49] matey but on average, id say seinfeld was funnier than snl [11:49] matey maybe [11:49] DaemonFC An analog format with 1080p would therefore be unacceptable. [11:49] matey snl had some entire years (maybe a decade) of being unfunny [11:49] schestowitz-TR the laptop screen was 800pc across [11:49] schestowitz-TR and iirc 640 vert [11:49] schestowitz-TR so you don't need 1080p or HD [11:50] schestowitz-TR this was 20 years ago, I was a poor student [11:50] DaemonFC One of the main reasons I went ahead and bought a DVD player early on was because you could get better results copying to a blank VHS than using a VHS tape as the source. [11:50] DaemonFC MacroVision only worked on VCRs with automatic gain control. [11:50] schestowitz-TR who had already given away the TV to a friend's mom [11:50] matey "lorne, we wore out the laugh track" "okay well a new laugh tracks not in the budget, switch to the track of cricket noises" [11:50] DaemonFC I had several VCRs without it. [11:50] DaemonFC So I could copy as many tapes as I wanted to. [11:51] matey "why do we have a track of cricket noises?" [11:51] matey "are you kidding? oh, you werent here in 1993" [11:51] DaemonFC VCRs are pretty reliable. [11:51] schestowitz-TR they last long [11:51] schestowitz-TR the more modern things last NOT long [11:51] DaemonFC The main problem, eating tapes, is caused by letting the heads become dirty. [11:51] schestowitz-TR take SSD for example [11:51] DaemonFC Which you can fix with a cheap cleaner tape. [11:51] schestowitz-TR keep them off the power for a few years [11:52] schestowitz-TR optical disks [11:52] schestowitz-TR versus magnetic [11:52] schestowitz-TR or FILM [11:52] schestowitz-TR for photos [11:52] schestowitz-TR versus some iPHone with oddball port [11:52] schestowitz-TR like firesomething [11:52] schestowitz-TR now we have webp [11:52] DaemonFC Yes, they have a bad port of Firefox. [11:52] schestowitz-TR will that outlast gulag? [11:52] schestowitz-TR who knows... [11:52] schestowitz-TR lots of old image formats [11:52] schestowitz-TR I cannot even open them [11:53] DaemonFC Washington Post: "We support every browser on iPhones.". [11:53] schestowitz-TR cannot even tell you what they're called [11:53] DaemonFC Because iPhones don't have real browsers. [11:53] schestowitz-TR or the suffic [11:53] schestowitz-TR because I forgot [11:53] matey you can have it in any colour as long as its black [11:53] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I means physical port [11:53] schestowitz-TR take iphone 1 in 10 years from now [11:53] DaemonFC Lightning. [11:54] schestowitz-TR your task if to get images out of it [11:54] schestowitz-TR no USB [11:54] schestowitz-TR no application [11:54] schestowitz-TR it was simpler with negatives of photos [11:54] DaemonFC Mandy couldn't reset an iPhone 8 last night. [11:54] DaemonFC He kept wondering why I couldn't install iTunes to reset his phone. [11:54] matey /me wonders why reset isnt a built-in feature [11:54] matey but then its apple, so [11:54] DaemonFC It is on Android. [11:55] matey ... [11:55] matey oh right [11:55] schestowitz-TR apple never needs resetting [11:55] matey i thought you meant his iphone was [11:55] schestowitz-TR that might confuse the user ;-) [11:55] matey that would be an interesting trick [11:55] schestowitz-TR and reset button makes them look less reliable [11:55] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, From what I can gather iTunes partially works on Wine. [11:55] schestowitz-TR salesman: it's perfect, you will never need to reset it [11:55] matey the new iphone 15, now with no reset button [11:55] DaemonFC But it's a real bitch to install and nobody said if resetting an iPhone worked or not. [11:55] schestowitz-TR if you do, it's time to buy a new one [11:55] schestowitz-TR "upgrade" [11:55] DaemonFC So I decided it wasn't worth the hassle. [11:56] schestowitz-TR more CPU core and RAM, same shitty "apps" [11:56] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: hard reset [11:56] schestowitz-TR remove batteried [11:56] schestowitz-TR put them back in [11:57] schestowitz-TR oh wait [11:57] schestowitz-TR it's soldered in OMG [11:57] DaemonFC :) [11:57] schestowitz-TR shit shit shit [11:57] schestowitz-TR and you ALSO lose the warranty [11:57] schestowitz-TR the Apple genius bar won't serve you drinks [11:57] matey /me thinks apple is secretly run by sinead oconner [11:57] matey it explains everything [11:57] DaemonFC Yeah, the guy at Batteries Plus can replace iPhone batteries. But the battery health app says "Not an original Apple part!". [11:57] DaemonFC ABANDON SHIP ABANDON SHIP! [11:57] DaemonFC NOT AN APPLE PART! [11:58] schestowitz-TR matey: sinead oconner. think different. [11:58] matey too different@ [11:58] matey too different! [11:58] schestowitz-TR matey: after she shave her head she did the hammer throw [11:58] schestowitz-TR at ICBM [11:58] DaemonFC Fight the real enemy! *rips up the Pope* [11:58] schestowitz-TR and ICBM self-nuked on impact [11:58] DaemonFC And that's the last anyone saw of her. [11:58] schestowitz-TR "think different." versus "think." [11:58] schestowitz-TR then comes microsoft [11:58] schestowitz-TR "bribe." [11:59] schestowitz-TR new Microsot(r): "bribe different" [11:59] schestowitz-TR bribe "Linux" [11:59] matey that was anya major but i think you were making a joke ● Mar 30 [12:00] schestowitz sinead iConner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8 [12:00] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8 [12:00] TR Bot yewtu.be | 1984 Apple's First Macintosh Commercial - Invidious [12:00] matey shes british, and apart from throwing the hammer in the apple ad she was in the elton john video for nikita [12:01] DaemonFC Ronald Reagan joked about the Soviet Union that "An American can go in, and bang his fist on the president's desk, and say 'I don't like the way you're running this country!'". So the Russian said, "Oh yeah, I can do that too. I can go into Gorbachev's office, bang my fist on the desk, and say 'I don't like the way Reagan is running his country!'". [12:01] schestowitz-TR irish [12:01] DaemonFC Meanwhile, in reality...... [12:01] matey iConner <- oh, ok [12:01] schestowitz-TR i think [12:01] schestowitz-TR iRish [12:01] schestowitz-TR sorry [12:01] matey yes oconner is irish [12:01] DaemonFC Secret Service agents with Uzis have to go everywhere with the president and he has a car that's really a tank. [12:01] matey anya major is british [12:01] DaemonFC Because no matter who the president is, 60% of Americans don't like him very much. [12:02] schestowitz-TR it's a bad system [12:02] DaemonFC Reagan should have mentioned that someone shot him. Maybe he forgot. [12:02] DaemonFC ;) [12:02] schestowitz-TR no person can be elected to do what's right [12:02] schestowitz-TR without being assassinated or ruined at nomination [12:02] schestowitz-TR or libeled by corporate media owned by bezos and gates [12:02] *matey has quit (connection closed) [12:03] DaemonFC Everyone is rattling on about how Biden's "approval rating" is 42%. They say "failed presidency". [12:03] DaemonFC Okay, most people didn't like Bush and he got re-elected. [12:03] TR News Clearview loves Putin's invasion. It helps distract from Clearview's crimes. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/ukraine-government-confirms-it-is-using-clearview-ai-to-identify-dead-russian-soldiers/ [12:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/ukraine-government-confirms-it-is-using-clearview-ai-to-identify-dead-russian-soldiers/ [12:03] TR Bot Government Confirms It Is Using Clearview AI To Identify Dead Russian Soldiers? | Techdirt [12:03] DaemonFC Most people didn't approve of Obama, he got re-elected. Same with Clinton. They lost control of Congress, but they were re-elected. [12:04] DaemonFC Why is that? [12:04] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: failing countries are like that [12:04] schestowitz-TR it's a good metric [12:04] schestowitz-TR when the person in power is so disliked [12:04] schestowitz-TR it means direct democracy is fake [12:04] DaemonFC The presidential elections have never been a direct democracy here. [12:04] schestowitz-TR let me check something [12:04] schestowitz-TR I will check presidential approval rates by country [12:04] BTcoInk direct democracy is online pools [12:05] DaemonFC They are state elections with an electoral college, which does not allocate representation proportionally. [12:05] schestowitz-TR assumption is, north europe ranks high [12:05] schestowitz-TR iceland even kicked its PM out [12:05] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating [12:05] TR Bot United States presidential approval rating - Wikipedia [12:05] *matey (~matey@mmg5z3yijp9ug.irc) has joined #techrights [12:06] schestowitz Trump was worst ever [12:06] schestowitz 40% [12:06] schestowitz average [12:06] schestowitz inc. the GOP-leaning polls [12:06] schestowitz Truman was 22 [12:06] schestowitz lowest by poll [12:07] schestowitz bush was 90% in highest among them [12:07] schestowitz 10 days after 9/11 [12:07] BTcoInk putin is loved in russia he alowas gets reelected they even need to change the constitution because of that [12:07] DaemonFC Truman was the last that could have ran for unlimited terms. [12:07] schestowitz see? some people win other than the terrorists [12:07] schestowitz terrorists and war criminals [12:07] schestowitz shared gain [12:07] schestowitz second was his dad [12:08] schestowitz 89% after gulf war [12:08] DaemonFC The two term limit wasn't added until the 1950s. [12:08] DaemonFC It was always an informal standard before then, and nobody really abused it badly until FDR. [12:08] schestowitz but we need to find stats for other countries [12:08] DaemonFC And he was becoming a dictator, and only left office because he died. [12:09] schestowitz maybe not in English edition of wikipedia [12:09] matey and only left office because he died. <- to be fair it was a very good reason [12:09] DaemonFC Trump and Biden have certainly tried to act like dictators. [12:09] schestowitz https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/ [12:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: morningconsult.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://morningconsult.com/global-leader-approval/ [12:09] TR Bot Global Leader Approval Ratings [12:10] DaemonFC But they've been cut down by the courts. [12:10] schestowitz Wow, Borisnaro 35% [12:10] schestowitz lower than Bolsonaro [12:10] schestowitz and Biden [12:10] DaemonFC FAILED DEMOCRACY! [12:10] schestowitz yup [12:10] matey failed government [12:10] schestowitz but poverty isn't as bad [12:10] schestowitz as the US [12:10] schestowitz Modi 76% [12:11] matey that cant be a real number [12:11] schestowitz 65% in Mexico [12:11] DaemonFC Have you considered that most people in the US don't care about the "Challenging Street People". [12:11] schestowitz https://www.gallup.com/analytics/315824/gallup-global-leadership-center.aspx [12:11] TR Bot Leadership Approval Center | Gallup.com [12:11] matey they certainly dont [12:11] DaemonFC mjg59_ steps over them like everyone else in that city. [12:12] matey out of curiosity what should he do? [12:12] DaemonFC They have plenty of practice stepping over things with over 20,000 complaints of shit on the sidewalk per year. [12:12] DaemonFC Vote out London Breed. [12:12] DaemonFC Corrupt corporate hack. [12:12] schestowitz-TR there should be 2 million complains [12:12] matey fair enough [12:12] schestowitz-TR about literal shits who live there [12:13] schestowitz-TR like Mozilla CEO [12:13] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Untrue [12:13] schestowitz-TR don't judge people by the smell [12:13] matey if most people cared about challenging street people they wouldnt be street people [12:13] DaemonFC When the mayor doesn't even say homeless and starts using "Challenging Street People", you know what they're doing there. Right? [12:13] DaemonFC Dehumanization. [12:13] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: What's the tech content here [12:13] schestowitz-TR street people [12:14] DaemonFC It no longer acknowledges that they're homeless. [12:14] schestowitz-TR "they came from the street" [12:14] schestowitz-TR "they belong in the street" [12:14] schestowitz-TR you can't take the street of of the man [12:14] matey What's the tech content here <- some of them have smartphones [12:14] schestowitz-TR even if you take the man out of the street [12:14] BTcoInk the street is their home [12:14] schestowitz-TR btw, in the group blackstreet (gospel/r&b) there was one singer called "street" [12:14] matey denystreet [12:14] BTcoInk many are car people [12:14] schestowitz-TR they adopted the "slur" [12:15] DaemonFC They have to staff the toilets to make sure the Challenging Street People don't sleep in the port-a-potty. [12:15] matey thats a good thing [12:15] matey no one should sleep in one of those [12:15] matey on the benches okay [12:15] schestowitz-TR in the uk they started charging to use publicm toilets [12:15] schestowitz-TR they are no longer public [12:16] DaemonFC Chicago runs a big homeless camp and a mental health hospital. It's called the County Jail. [12:16] schestowitz-TR and that denies access to people who might end up "going" elsewhere [12:16] schestowitz-TR so it's a bad approach [12:16] schestowitz-TR rms says we should refuse to use these [12:16] DaemonFC They gutted the budget for mental health clinics and homeless shelters. [12:16] schestowitz-TR I never paid I think [12:16] schestowitz-TR rianne did, I never did [12:16] BTcoInk everyone agrees the shiter sould be private [12:16] DaemonFC So they commit petty crimes so they go to jail and get fed and don't freeze to death. [12:16] matey rms says we should refuse to use these <- ive been refusing to use pay toilets for a few decades [12:16] matey basically since the first one i ever saw [12:16] BTcoInk public shiting is a crime [12:16] DaemonFC rms says we should refuse to use these <- ive been refusing to use pay toilets for a few decades [12:16] matey i was like "seriously, wtf" [12:17] schestowitz-TR matey: it's right there next to "spikes" [12:17] schestowitz-TR to prevent them sleeping in .... places [12:17] DaemonFC I think the point of "San Francisco Pit Stop" is that people don't have to pay so they won't just shit on the sidewalk. [12:17] DaemonFC Of course, people pay....taxes. [12:17] matey yeah some people removed a bunch of armrests because they were really just anti-sleeping features [12:17] schestowitz-TR [12:16] i was like "seriously, wtf" [12:17] schestowitz-TR planes (airtlines) did the same [12:17] schestowitz-TR or considered it [12:17] mjg59_ It's a good thing San Francisco has rolled out a whole bunch of toilets you don't have to pay for [12:17] matey so they unbolted and stole the armrests from the becnhes as good samaritans [12:17] schestowitz-TR causing an outcry [12:17] matey i thought it was prettty epic [12:17] schestowitz-TR first they take the meals away [12:18] schestowitz-TR then the tea and sandwich [12:18] DaemonFC If it bothered them that much, they'd reform the laws there to end the housing crisis. They only keep the housing crisis going so people like mjg59_ will pay $800,000 for a tiny house. [12:18] schestowitz-TR then you can't even "go" [12:18] schestowitz-TR "bring diapers" [12:18] matey of course it would also be epic to give them a place indoors to sleep [12:18] schestowitz-TR (that escalated quickly!) [12:18] matey but even removing the armrests was a good thing [12:18] DaemonFC It's deliberate so they can say "Look at me! I'm important! I can AFFORD to have a home here!". [12:18] BTcoInk if you dont eat you dont need to shit [12:18] schestowitz-TR matey: maybe because of "big people" [12:19] DaemonFC "We made a crisis so we could live in it and laugh at the challenging street people!" [12:19] matey matey: maybe because of "big people" <- no i dont think so [12:19] mjg59_ Unclear what the desired mechanism here is [12:19] mjg59_ Am I supposed to just put a toilet outside my door [12:19] DaemonFC Your tax dollars at work. [12:20] DaemonFC Chicago doesn't have to do this to avoid shit in the streets. [12:20] DaemonFC The more liberal your city is, the more freaks and assholes live there. [12:20] TR News Suppressed reporting, suppressed subject (not convenient to media owners) https://www.projectcensored.org/lack-of-research-on-rise-of-suicides-among-asian-american-youth/ [12:20] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/lack-of-research-on-rise-of-suicides-among-asian-american-youth/ ) [12:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/lack-of-research-on-rise-of-suicides-among-asian-american-youth/ [12:20] DaemonFC Pretty soon you can't even use a toilet. [12:20] matey Unclear what the desired mechanism here is <- basically the problem is being liberal [12:20] matey everything else is commentary [12:21] TR News Crackers, not hackers https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/hackers-gaining-power-of-subpoena-via-fake-emergency-data-requests/ [12:21] DaemonFC His Royal Hineyness. [12:21] TR Bot Hackers Gaining Power of Subpoena Via Fake Emergency Data Requests Krebs on Security [12:21] mjg59_ Shit, I hadn't realised that marriage equality meant more people living on the streets [12:21] matey theres always something new to learn here [12:22] mjg59_ "Crackers, not hackers" this disagrees with the content of the original 80s version of the Jargon File before ESR took over [12:22] TR News Discord is terrible for many LEGITIMATE reasons https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/the-latest-moral-panic-focuses-on-discord/ [12:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/the-latest-moral-panic-focuses-on-discord/ [12:22] TR Bot Latest Moral Panic Focuses On Discord | Techdirt [12:22] DaemonFC Everywhere the liberals go, they screw up the economy and raise taxes, but while at first glance it looks like they're stupid, they have a good reason for it. They don't actually want poor black people living anywhere near them. [12:22] matey "Crackers, not hackers" this disagrees with <- do you consider it bunk? [12:22] mjg59_ The definition of "hacker" at the time included what later versions called "cracker" [12:22] matey i always considered it wishful thinking [12:22] DaemonFC They reckon if they drive the cost of living sky high, they can just say the right things and not have to admit they're racists. [12:22] matey a prescriptive distinction [12:23] DaemonFC The left in this country is the most racist group there is. [12:23] schestowitz-TR demonstrably false [12:23] DaemonFC There's plenty of black people living in red states, because nobody is trying to force them out of their homes by taking their jobs away and raising taxes and rents. [12:23] schestowitz-TR they are clkassist [12:23] matey i find DaemonFC considerably less offensive then rush limbaugh [12:23] schestowitz-TR not racist [12:23] matey but some of the overlap is amusing [12:24] mjg59_ From version 1.10 of the Jargon File: "6. A malicious or inquisitive meddler who tries to [12:24] mjg59_ discover information by poking around. Hence "password hacker" [12:24] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [12:24] schestowitz-TR but many poor people belond to ethnic groups and immigrant families [12:24] schestowitz-TR thg right is tribalist [12:24] schestowitz-TR not classist [12:24] schestowitz-TR but the classicism extends to tribalism [12:24] matey /me finds the term "tribalist" extremely unfortunate [12:24] matey the right isnt classist? [12:24] matey /me falls over laughing [12:25] schestowitz https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-racial-injustice-jared-kushner-d7cf670c43a41dc941e6ac21c0e683de [12:25] TR Bot Kushner says Black people must 'want to be successful' | AP News [12:25] DaemonFC The problem here is that the right just sounds like a bunch of assholes but the left puts in policies that drive black people out or harass them with laws that are designed to send them to prison. [12:25] matey im not concerned about tribes being offended, its a tragedy of mischaracterisation [12:25] DaemonFC The Democrat gun laws in Illinois.....90% of the people sent to prison are black. [12:25] schestowitz https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/26/jared-kushner-criticized-saying-black-people-need-want-successful/6043088002/ [12:25] TR Bot Jared Kushner says Black people need to 'want to be successful' [12:25] matey The problem here is that the right just sounds like a bunch of assholes but the left puts in policies that drive black people out or harass them with laws that are designed to send them to prison. <- the so-called left is largely populated with hypocrites, its true [12:25] DaemonFC When white people are found with an illegal gun, there's court diversions and misdemeanor versions of the offense all of a sudden. [12:26] DaemonFC What do you know? [12:26] matey left opportunists keep the left from doing legitimately left things [12:26] schestowitz-TR [12:24] /me falls over laughing [12:26] schestowitz-TR as long as that class is of "their kind" [12:26] matey from a campaign standpoint thats very true [12:26] DaemonFC In Indiana, you won't even need a gun permit for open carry soon. [12:26] matey but campaign is just another word for bullshit [12:26] DaemonFC So nobody will be arrested or sent to prison. [12:26] matey they USE the lower class during elections [12:26] DaemonFC Illinois is happy with 9 out of 10 prisoners being black. [12:27] matey that doesnt make them any less classist [12:27] matey its like saying that slaveowners werent racist because they had mostly black workers. [12:27] DaemonFC The left is pretty much delighted by human suffering. [12:27] DaemonFC It makes them feel more accomplished. [12:27] matey "look how diverse our workforce is!" [12:27] TR News "As the New York Times reported in 2015, Schrems was a 24-year-old student studying at the Santa Clara School of Law in California, when lawyers from Silicon Valley came to talk to students about their companies approach to privacy." https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-a-few-thoughtless-words-about-privacy-led-to-huge-political-and-economic-headaches-for-the-us-and-eu/ [12:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-a-few-thoughtless-words-about-privacy-led-to-huge-political-and-economic-headaches-for-the-us-and-eu/ [12:27] TR Bot How a Few Thoughtless Words about Privacy Led to Huge Political and Economic Headaches for the US and EU political and economic headache [12:27] DaemonFC That's the only reason you'd live in San Francisco. [12:28] DaemonFC It's about the snob aspect of it. [12:28] DaemonFC "I'm glad I have $800,000 for a tiny house with no land. Unlike those Challenging Street People!" [12:29] matey hatred of the working class is extremely common among the bourgiosie [12:29] matey but what dfc is complaining about is something marx and lenin said routinely [12:29] DaemonFC That really is why the left hates states like Indiana. [12:29] DaemonFC Almost anyone in Indiana who gets a job can have a house. A nice one. [12:30] TR News Cond Nast should just die already, along with its lying Microsoft rags and Reddit https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/prestige-doesnt-pay-bills-conde-nast-workers-announce-new-union [12:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/prestige-doesnt-pay-bills-conde-nast-workers-announce-new-union [12:30] TR Bot 'Prestige Doesn't Pay the Bills': Cond Nast Workers Announce New Union [12:30] DaemonFC I've known people working at convenience stores who have an apartment 10 times bigger than one you have to share with 5 other men in San Francisco. [12:30] TR News More bailout money for Microsoft https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/ukraine-war-cannot-justify-bidens-too-damn-high-pentagon-budget see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [12:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/ukraine-war-cannot-justify-bidens-too-damn-high-pentagon-budget [12:30] TR Bot Opinion | Ukraine War Cannot Justify Biden's Too-Damn-High Pentagon Budget | William Hartung [12:31] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [12:31] matey to share with 5 other men in San Francisco. <- im pretty sure some of that was voluntary, particularly the "5 other men" part [12:32] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:33] DaemonFC No it's not. [12:33] schestowitz-TR sometimes people are made to delude themselves [12:33] DaemonFC You look for apartments in San Francisco and you get "$1,500" apartments, and then find out they want you to share 300 square feet with three roommates and it's really $6,000 a month for the apartment. [12:33] schestowitz-TR to compel to spin as voluntary something that is not [12:33] schestowitz-TR "I'm happy to have just one room" [12:34] schestowitz-TR "I'm happy to live in SF" [12:34] schestowitz-TR "I actualluy am OK with this job" [12:34] schestowitz-TR "I don't need a bath" [12:34] schestowitz-TR they call it sour grapes [12:34] matey to compel to spin as voluntary something that is not <- no, it was a cheap joke about the scene in sf [12:34] schestowitz-TR not limited to foxes in grapsvines [12:34] schestowitz-TR matey: well, DaemonFC is gay [12:35] matey yes i know [12:35] schestowitz-TR so I would not make unfair assumptions about intent [12:35] DaemonFC Ubuntu used to include "The Fox and the Sour Grapes" as a demonstration of ODF. [12:35] matey and i thought he might find a small amount of humour in it [12:35] matey so I would not make unfair assumptions <- youre forgetting that he has a sense of humour [12:35] DaemonFC Ironically, I think that was while mjg59_ was there. [12:35] TR News "The first pirate site blocking order in Canada remains in place. Internet provider TekSavvy petitioned the Supreme Court to hear the case but this request was denied." https://torrentfreak.com/canadas-supreme-court-denies-teksavvys-site-blocking-appeal-220329/ [12:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/canadas-supreme-court-denies-teksavvys-site-blocking-appeal-220329/ [12:35] TR Bot Supreme Court Denies TekSavvy's Site Blocking Appeal * TorrentFreak [12:36] TR News "Russia-based game developer Four Quarters is against the war in Ukraine but in common with other companies, still feels the effects of sanctions." https://torrentfreak.com/russian-loop-hero-dev-approves-piracy-after-sanctions-hobble-steam-220329/ [12:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/russian-loop-hero-dev-approves-piracy-after-sanctions-hobble-steam-220329/ [12:36] TR Bot 'Loop Hero' Dev Approves Piracy After Sanctions Hobble Steam * TorrentFreak [12:36] matey also it wasnt an assumption. that would imply it was said seriously [12:36] DaemonFC "I don't like Indiana and their low cost of living. Everyone there is probably a rube anyway." *laughs in $20 coffee* [12:36] schestowitz-TR matey: right, sorry for misunderstanding [12:36] matey no worries at all [12:37] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I had coffee with irish cream minutes ago [12:37] matey it was a dumb joke besides [12:37] schestowitz-TR the cost? about 30 pence [12:37] DaemonFC 30 of Mike Pence? [12:37] schestowitz-TR inc. liquor [12:37] DaemonFC What, are they coming out of a vat now? [12:37] schestowitz-TR I cal him mike pants [12:37] schestowitz-TR pants here means "rubbish" [12:37] schestowitz-TR "this thing was pants.." [12:38] schestowitz-TR the media tells people to payn for "ambiance" [12:38] schestowitz-TR shopping malls and coffee shops [12:38] DaemonFC i find DaemonFC considerably less offensive then rush limbaugh [12:38] schestowitz-TR most coffee shops are not plesant [12:38] DaemonFC I never listened to Rush Limbaugh. [12:38] schestowitz-TR unless you live in council housing [12:38] schestowitz-TR BUT... [12:38] DaemonFC Jerry Doyle had a talk radio show for a while. [12:39] schestowitz-TR people who go there are NOT poor [12:39] schestowitz-TR they pretend to be rich [12:39] schestowitz-TR but are not poor eirher [12:39] schestowitz-TR there is no reason for them to go there [12:39] schestowitz-TR their kitchen is a lot nicer [12:39] DaemonFC Limbaugh was a Republican. Doyle criticized Romney and supported Ron Paul. [12:39] matey Jerry Doyle had a talk radio show for a while. <- from b5? [12:39] DaemonFC Yes, him. [12:39] matey i knew he was republican [12:39] schestowitz-TR so it's all "fasshen" and lyfestaille" [12:40] matey also wasnt he married to the blonde psycorps officer? [12:40] matey in the show he had a crush, but in real life [12:40] DaemonFC Yes he was, for a while. [12:40] matey she was pretty amazing for a blonde [12:40] DaemonFC They wrote her out of the show. [12:40] matey reminded me of cybil shepherd-- in some ways even better looking [12:41] matey they sure did, but why? [12:41] TR News The other Ginni who supports the Orange Nazi (not the Ginni from ICBM, Rometty) https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/clarence-thomas-should-resign-and-ginni-thomas-should-be-prosecuted https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/29/ginni_thomas_clarence_thomas_democratic_elections [12:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/29/clarence-thomas-should-resign-and-ginni-thomas-should-be-prosecuted [12:41] TR Bot Opinion | Clarence Thomas Should Resign and Ginni Thomas Should Be Prosecuted | Thom Hartmann [12:41] TR Bot Ginni & Clarence Thomas vs. Democracy: He Sided with Trump in Court While She Backed Coup Attempt | Democracy Now! [12:41] DaemonFC It turned out that the Psi Corps implanted a fake personality in her and that was the one everyone knew. [12:41] matey no i know the storyline [12:41] matey i mean what was the reason they wrote her out [12:41] DaemonFC Not sure. [12:41] matey oh okay [12:42] matey talia winters [12:42] DaemonFC I call it the Babylon 5 Curse, though, what happened to the people who acted in the show. [12:42] DaemonFC Most of them died shortly thereafter, way too young too. [12:42] matey yeah no kidding [12:42] matey poor zathras [12:43] TR News The corporatisation of "science(TM)" https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/university-climate-research-fossil-fuels/ [12:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/university-climate-research-fossil-fuels/ [12:43] TR Bot Climate Research Shouldnt Be Funded by Fossil Fuel Companies | The Nation [12:43] DaemonFC Nobody listen to zathras. [12:43] matey zathras have a sad life. probably have a sad death too [12:43] DaemonFC He talks to dirt. Dirt sometimes have bugs. Bugs listen. [12:43] matey i think if elmo gets old enough he will sound exactly like zathras [12:44] TR News "Was it all a dream? In the harsh light of 2022, the early years of my time working at BuzzFeedthe boozy launch parties of each new vertical, the iPads distributed as holiday swag, the taco Tuesdays" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/buzzfeed-news-layoffs-journalism/ [12:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/buzzfeed-news-layoffs-journalism/ [12:44] TR Bot BuzzFeed Doesnt Deserve Its Newsroom | The Nation [12:44] matey elmo likes tickles. no one tickles elmo anymore. elmo was happy. elmo have sad life. [12:44] DaemonFC Motorcycle accident, died, 49. [12:44] DaemonFC They are death traps. [12:44] TR News "Last week, the EU and the US announced something important that sounds pretty boring a new privacy shield agreement" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/eu-us-say-theyve-agreed-to-a-new-privacy-shield-that-doesnt-seem-to-deal-with-any-of-the-problems-of-the-old-one/ [12:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/eu-us-say-theyve-agreed-to-a-new-privacy-shield-that-doesnt-seem-to-deal-with-any-of-the-problems-of-the-old-one/ [12:44] TR Bot Say Theyve Agreed To A New Privacy Shield That Doesnt Seem To Deal With Any Of The Problems Of The Old One | Techdirt [12:44] DaemonFC And most people who buy them are in their 40s. [12:45] matey its sort of like a game of russian roulette that can get you from a to-- maybe b [12:45] TR News Maybe they just don't like people https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/as-scrutiny-of-law-enforcement-increases-legislators-are-trying-to-criminalize-filming-of-police-officers/ [12:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/29/as-scrutiny-of-law-enforcement-increases-legislators-are-trying-to-criminalize-filming-of-police-officers/ [12:45] TR Bot Scrutiny Of Law Enforcement Increases, Legislators Are Trying To Criminalize Filming Of Police Officers | Techdirt [12:45] DaemonFC I wouldn't ride a bicycle in the Chicago region. [12:45] DaemonFC Too many illegal Mexicans. [12:45] DaemonFC Hit and run. [12:45] DaemonFC Every goddamned day. [12:47] schestowitz-TR " illegal Mexicans"? [12:47] schestowitz-TR Do you have to be " illegal Mexicans" to hit a cyclist? [12:47] DaemonFC Well, it seems to be "Illegal Mexican hit and run" Groundhog Day around here. [12:47] schestowitz-TR as a principle [12:47] schestowitz-TR undocumented residents are LESS likely to commit such offenses [12:47] mjg59_ 12:35 < DaemonFC> Ironically, I think that was while mjg59_ was there. [12:48] DaemonFC Well, not necessarily. [12:48] mjg59_ ? [12:48] schestowitz-TR as they have more to lose [12:48] DaemonFC THen why is it in the news CONSTANTLY? [12:48] schestowitz-TR Fox? [12:48] DaemonFC It's almost always a Mexican. [12:48] DaemonFC Lake and McHenry Scanner or WGN. [12:48] mjg59_ I didn't live in SF in that timeframe, and I was never a Cnonical employee, so ? [12:49] *alextee (~alextee@uwuysj3kprbhs.irc) has joined #techrights [12:49] DaemonFC Lake and McHenry Scanner more aggressively posts mugshots than WGN. [12:49] TR News "Billionaires purposefully don't take incomesthey borrow against their wealth to fund their lifestyles (buy, borrow, and die.)" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/manchin-blasted-opposing-bidens-plan-tax-us-billionaires [12:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/29/manchin-blasted-opposing-bidens-plan-tax-us-billionaires [12:49] TR Bot Manchin Blasted for Opposing Biden's Plan to Tax US Billionaires [12:49] DaemonFC WGN follows the Coulter's Law, whereby the longer it takes them to mention race or produce a mugshot, the less likely the offender is white. [12:50] DaemonFC https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/coulters-law/ [12:50] TR Bot Law Meaning & Origin | Slang by Dictionary.com [12:50] TR News Paradox: security and buzzwords like IoShit https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/podcast-episode-securing-internet-things [12:50] TR Bot Podcast Episode: Securing the Internet of Things | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:51] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: So are channel norms that I'm just accused of stuff that, well, is clearly not me? [12:51] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GEVAE3EYoOg&t=144 <- THen why is it in the news CONSTANTLY? [12:51] TR Bot "Arabs" | Russell Peters - Red, White, and Brown - Invidious [12:51] DaemonFC I don't like Ann Coulter much, but she's right. [12:51] DaemonFC If the alleged offender was white, there's a mugshot right away. [12:51] matey that I'm just accused of stuff that, well, is clearly not me? <- i think of it as a running comedy routine [12:51] TR News Window Snyder is a Microsofter. Why does the EFF boost Microsofters as if they're security experts? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/podcast-episode-securing-internet-things EFF increasingly a loss cause. Also a Microsoft booster. http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [12:51] TR Bot The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights [12:51] DaemonFC If not, it just says "three teenagers" or something. [12:52] DaemonFC When the news just says "four teenagers carjacked someone", and there's no mugshot, it's code. [12:52] schestowitz-TR *lost cause [12:52] matey wrong timestamp [12:52] DaemonFC It means they want to report the police blotter but not outrage Jesse Jackson. [12:53] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GEVAE3EYoOg&t=114 [12:53] TR Bot "Arabs" | Russell Peters - Red, White, and Brown - Invidious [12:53] matey the whole video is good of course [12:57] TR News Tax on 95 Percent of Corporate Windfall Profits https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-wants-wwii-style-tax-on-95-percent-of-corporate-windfall-profits/ [12:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-wants-wwii-style-tax-on-95-percent-of-corporate-windfall-profits/ [12:57] TR Bot Bernie Sanders Wants WWII-Style Tax on 95 Percent of Corporate Windfall Profits [12:58] TR News SweatshopZome https://truthout.org/articles/alabama-amazon-workers-were-forced-to-work-as-mysterious-gas-filled-warehouse/ [12:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/alabama-amazon-workers-were-forced-to-work-as-mysterious-gas-filled-warehouse/ [12:58] TR Bot Alabama Amazon Workers Were Forced to Work as Mysterious Gas Filled Warehouse [12:58] schestowitz-TR *Zone [12:58] schestowitz-TR I have a new name fore bezoscorp [12:58] schestowitz-TR although it does not cover business operations like AWS [12:59] schestowitz-TR "web" "services" [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 274.45 [12:59] schestowitz-TR so-called 'services'... [12:59] schestowitz-TR it goes down [12:59] schestowitz-TR they suspend you [12:59] DaemonFC Amazon Web Outages. [12:59] schestowitz-TR they do price hikes [12:59] schestowitz-TR etc. [12:59] schestowitz-TR AWOL [12:59] schestowitz-TR Amazon Web Outage LOL [12:59] schestowitz-TR last year techrights had better uptime than aws ● Mar 30 [13:00] schestowitz-TR freenode has better uptime than slack [13:00] DaemonFC Jean Marc Valin left Mozilla.....for Amazon Web Outages. [13:00] schestowitz-TR in spite of all the turebulence [13:00] schestowitz-TR same for libera chat [13:00] matey last year techrights had better uptime than aws <- even with the countless ddos attacks? [13:00] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: many from ICBM/Red Hat move to AWS [13:00] DaemonFC I wonder if he was a victim of Mitchell or just got out ahead of it. [13:00] schestowitz-TR LOADS [13:00] schestowitz-TR even managers [13:01] schestowitz-TR they move quietly [13:01] schestowitz-TR matey: yes [13:01] schestowitz-TR we didn't even have many ddos attacks last year [13:01] schestowitz-TR tuxmachines had the issues [13:01] matey oh [13:01] schestowitz-TR we wrote a program to mitigate [13:01] schestowitz-TR it might even be in git [13:01] DaemonFC IBM: Let us terrorize and demoralize you with persistent layoffs and job interviews to see if you get laid off this time. Also, here's a pay cut. [13:01] matey yeah i recall when you started testing it [13:01] *schestowitz-TR checks [13:01] DaemonFC NPR: IBM is doing well! [13:02] matey basically like fail2ban except for https [13:02] matey f2b is for ssh [13:02] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The Catholic Church is treating their employees like IBM does. [13:02] matey plus with a timeout [13:02] DaemonFC Mom's terrified if she files partial unemployment due to the cut hours that they'll fire her. [13:03] schestowitz-TR yes, it is in git [13:03] DaemonFC That's illegal, but we know what the labor laws are like in America. [13:03] schestowitz-TR under sbin and sbin-tm [13:03] DaemonFC It may be illegal, but good luck with that! [13:03] schestowitz-TR matey: no, more like "attack mode" [13:03] schestowitz-TR on and off depending on load [13:03] schestowitz-TR and on timers [13:03] DaemonFC They're like anyone else. They warn if you bring in a labor union, they'll fire everybody. [13:04] matey /me figures its basically like fail2ban, except for https and with a timeout [13:04] DaemonFC So nobody risks it, because individually, they need a paycheck every week more than they need pie in the sky from a labor union. [13:05] schestowitz-TR there are manu union-bustinmg methods [13:05] schestowitz-TR EPO tried many [13:05] schestowitz-TR but they're outwitted by EPO staff reps [13:05] BTcoInk DaemonFC is a chatbot [13:05] schestowitz-TR and union leaders [13:05] schestowitz-TR so far... [13:05] matey bot calling the kettle black [13:06] schestowitz-TR the kettle is deny [13:06] matey /me coughs [13:06] matey i was just going to say [13:06] matey "deny" [13:06] BTcoInk wtf that means? [13:06] matey beauty [13:06] matey now you dont follow [13:06] TR News SCOTUS: the questions OFF the table https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/no-corporate-law-and-power-questions-for-judge-ketanji-brown-jackson/ [13:06] BTcoInk you a bot too? [13:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/no-corporate-law-and-power-questions-for-judge-ketanji-brown-jackson/ [13:06] TR Bot Corporate Law and Power Questions for Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson - CounterPunch.org [13:08] BTcoInk ww3 is here and you keep chating about crap [13:08] BTcoInk are you russian propaganda machine? [13:08] matey ww3 has been here for a decade or more [13:08] matey yes im a russian propaganda machine that refers to russias leader as "putler" and "putlin" [13:09] matey lets just say im a russian propaganda machine with a vicious sense of humour [13:09] BTcoInk to escape the alghorithmes [13:09] matey naturally [13:09] matey fools them every time [13:09] matey because this irc is LOADED with anti-propaganda algorithms [13:09] matey you can find them on the gemhub. [13:09] TR News Instead of protecting women, babies and embryos Texas now protects the travel industry. And the travel is a risk to life. This was never about protecting humans. Women will do what they want, one way or another... [13:09] matey twitter is envious [13:10] XRevan86 BTcoInk: When we talked about the Russian propaganda machine, ye called this channel "right-leaning". [13:10] matey they cant use them though beause they serve over https and js [13:10] BTcoInk russian love rightwing [13:10] BTcoInk putin loves trump [13:11] BTcoInk they even finance the ultra right [13:11] XRevan86 That they do. [13:11] BTcoInk putin wants war [13:12] XRevan86 That's an astute observation after Putin started a war. [13:12] matey :) [13:12] BTcoInk to spread socialisme? [13:12] TR News Microsoft is neither web nor dev, it's a resource-hogging malware cult gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/motivation-to-learn-something-new-webdev [13:12] matey hehe [13:13] XRevan86 BTcoInk: To spread his rule. [13:13] matey those darn ukranians, getting in the way of putlins socialist natural gas with their wicked capitalist petrol conglomerates [13:14] BTcoInk putin is fascist [13:14] matey close enough for the moment [13:14] BTcoInk so was stalin [13:14] matey similar to putlin yes [13:14] schestowitz-TR https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-asks-putin-provide-dirt-hunter-biden-1329356/ [13:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-asks-putin-provide-dirt-hunter-biden-1329356/ [13:14] TR Bot Trump Asks Putin to Dig Up Dirt on Biden Family - Rolling Stone [13:15] matey not much that was socialist about either of them [13:15] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:15] matey the rich love socialism for the rich [13:15] matey stalinism was socialism for the bureaucracy [13:19] schestowitz-TR [09:30] cheetonazi is soliciting more foreign interference again, highly illegal given [13:19] schestowitz-TR [09:30] his past and current positionl, teachnically treasonous; but then neither [13:19] schestowitz-TR [09:30] sedition nor treason have been prosecuted during the last 15 years [13:19] schestowitz-TR [09:30] despite occurences [13:19] schestowitz-TR [09:30] faux news, newsmax, and other are part of that [13:19] schestowitz-TR cheetonazi sounds like Fibonacci [13:19] *alextee (~alextee@uwuysj3kprbhs.irc) has joined #techrights [13:19] schestowitz-TR matey: ^ [13:20] schestowitz-TR MinceR: [13:20] schestowitz-TR cheetonazi has caught on [13:20] schestowitz-TR like the cheese [13:20] schestowitz-TR on the shirt [13:21] matey cheetonazi is soliciting more foreign interference again <- its obviously a lot worse when a former president does it [13:21] matey though quite a lot of people during bush ii were asking the rest of the world to please invade [13:21] matey im not entirely sure its the same thing at all, just noting it for completeness [13:23] matey i was never terribly fond of the sedition act, trump doesnt change this [13:23] matey fwiw i dont think foreign invasion is generally a good (or effective) way to liberate anything (except oil, then its effective) [13:24] matey /me wonders if its sedition for the south to accept help from britain AFTER seceding [13:25] matey probably, buy technically i dont know [13:26] matey suppose that putin takes over the united states-- i know thats hilarious, just for the sake of argument [13:27] matey are we going to call it sedition if people ask canada and mexico to please intervene [13:27] matey i think under those circumstances sedition would be acceptable [13:27] schestowitz-TR ha [13:27] matey its a deliberately silly example [13:28] schestowitz-TR better exampl [13:28] matey as i said im not a big fan of the sedition act [13:28] schestowitz-TR china ore russia in mexico [13:28] schestowitz-TR and then the US invades Mexico [13:30] schestowitz-TR when putin flies to colombia [13:30] matey because he likes good coffee [13:30] schestowitz-TR and coordinates actions with their guerillas \ [13:30] matey so liberate better coffee [13:30] schestowitz-TR "we cannot allow this president biden to stay in power!!!" [13:30] schestowitz-TR Colombia is Poland BTW [13:30] matey interesting [13:31] schestowitz-TR FARC [13:31] matey that reminds me [13:31] matey FART FART FART FART is from twitter, yes? [13:31] schestowitz https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/nato-notes/ [13:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/nato-notes/ [13:31] TR Bot Notes - CounterPunch.org [13:32] schestowitz better and new: https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/bidens-unhinged-call-for-regime-change-in-russia/ [13:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/bidens-unhinged-call-for-regime-change-in-russia/ [13:32] TR Bot Unhinged Call for Regime Change in Russia - CounterPunch.org [13:32] schestowitz he basically went to poland [13:32] schestowitz next to belarus [13:33] schestowitz and gave marching orders of sorts [13:33] schestowitz like US wants to also decide for russia who should run it [13:33] schestowitz like putin allegedly did in US [13:33] matey when i was a kid i suspected the world was probably crazy [13:33] matey i had no idea how much though [13:33] schestowitz remembe rthe Trumps met Putin's officials [13:33] schestowitz to coordinate their campaign [13:33] schestowitz while I oppose fake news [13:34] schestowitz and exeggerations [13:34] matey lol [13:34] schestowitz this one was not denied by the Trumps [13:34] matey like US wants to also decide for russia who should run it <- this is what facebook is for [13:34] schestowitz why would a campaign for US presidency involve meeting Putin's folks? [13:34] schestowitz yes, FB is part of many [13:34] schestowitz many parts [13:34] matey facebook is like the united nations except with shitty algorithms [13:34] schestowitz and they can swap them around [13:34] schestowitz gulagtube takes of the mask more and more [13:35] schestowitz https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/29/facebook-users-emotions-news-feeds [13:35] TR Bot Facebook reveals news feed experiment to control emotions | Facebook | The Guardian [13:35] matey if russia wants to interfere with an election, thats what facebook is for [13:35] schestowitz biul''s guardian [13:35] matey if america wants to interfere with the russian government, facebook can help with that too [13:35] schestowitz bill's broadcasting corp.: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28051930 [13:35] TR Bot Facebook emotion experiment sparks criticism - BBC News [13:35] matey who needs the united nations when you have zuckerberg? [13:35] matey "they trust us, dumb fucks"-- united nations [13:36] schestowitz-TR \FB has many producta [13:36] schestowitz-TR not meteverse [13:36] schestowitz-TR products like "brexit" [13:36] schestowitz-TR products like "borisnaro" [13:36] matey SR -> NKVD -> KGB -> FB [13:37] schestowitz-TR faecbook: we have a CATALOGUE [13:37] schestowitz-TR 20 million Brits [13:37] schestowitz-TR will 1) spy [13:37] schestowitz-TR 2) indoctrinate [13:37] schestowitz-TR 3) report back [13:37] schestowitz-TR for canvassing [13:37] matey PBS [13:37] schestowitz-TR PBS funded by Bill [13:38] matey practically bills station [13:38] schestowitz-TR like Bill's PR (NPR) [13:38] matey npr, national philanthropist radio [13:38] schestowitz-TR PBS did ask him one or two questions about the "rich people" though [13:38] schestowitz-TR the bribes were not enough I guess [13:38] schestowitz-TR he must have panicked [13:38] schestowitz-TR he did visible snapped [13:38] schestowitz-TR "I'm PAYING you" [13:38] matey "what do you mean by 'rich people'" [13:39] schestowitz-TR don't ask me about "well he's dea" [13:39] schestowitz-TR *dead [13:39] schestowitz-TR riuch people [13:39] schestowitz-TR he said it himself [13:39] matey reich people? [13:39] schestowitz-TR he was close to epstein [13:39] schestowitz-TR because he know lots of rich people [13:39] matey maxwell house [13:39] schestowitz-TR but epstein mostly provided confidential maccess to 'little people' [13:40] schestowitz-TR Gates is the one with contacts among "rich people" [13:40] schestowitz-TR even Saudis [13:40] schestowitz-TR so the internal JOKE here before [13:40] schestowitz-TR that "rich people" is code [13:40] schestowitz-TR it's a joke [13:40] schestowitz-TR but still fitting [13:40] schestowitz-TR epstein DID know a lot of "rich people" [13:41] schestowitz-TR he literally smuggled thousands of them [13:41] schestowitz-TR he hooked up "rich people" (quotes) with rich people [13:41] matey daughter swapping? [13:41] schestowitz-TR in marshal island or virgin island or just in the air [13:41] schestowitz-TR where it's no-man's land [13:42] schestowitz-TR about 20 years ago they did a survey in china [13:42] schestowitz-TR they found that the most wanted sperm was bill's [13:42] schestowitz-TR don't ask me why [13:42] matey weird [13:42] schestowitz-TR and I find that disgusting [13:43] schestowitz-TR but ever since the epstein thing and rick allen jones arrest it never seemed (or seamed) the same [13:43] schestowitz-TR and I don't even want to think about it tbh... [13:43] schestowitz-TR but the media should [13:43] schestowitz-TR the US law enforcement should [13:43] matey the le always work for the rich [13:43] schestowitz-TR let's encrypt [13:44] schestowitz-TR LE [13:44] schestowitz-TR let's encrypt = law enfoircement [13:44] matey it doesnt matter what the guy on the beat does, its the organisation he works for that matters [13:44] schestowitz-TR that's a funny one [13:44] schestowitz-TR I trust the CA of LE [13:44] schestowitz-TR Law Enforcement [13:44] schestowitz-TR /sarcasm maybe LE is CODE for something..... wwwwwwwwwhooooooooo [13:45] matey little entertainment [13:45] matey you know regardless of what the findings were [13:45] schestowitz-TR well, you see. [13:45] matey the idea of doing a survey in china to find out what sperm is the most wanted [13:45] matey thats a really weird survey to begin with [13:45] schestowitz-TR that's where "Court of public opinion" helps [13:45] schestowitz-TR IBM lawsuits were dropped [13:46] schestowitz-TR but IBM remained scarred [13:46] schestowitz-TR by its past [13:46] schestowitz-TR and FB loses many usersa [13:46] schestowitz-TR AND admits this [13:46] schestowitz-TR at long last [13:46] schestowitz-TR Twitter also admits faking its reach [13:46] schestowitz-TR and paid a lot to settle with shareholders after they had sued [13:46] matey this does not read like a cbs article [13:46] matey Gates Grant to Fund Testicle-Blasting Contraceptive - CBS News [13:46] schestowitz-TR so even without LE we can get a little justice [13:46] matey article <- title [13:46] schestowitz-TR and, if we get popcorn, a little entertainment [13:47] schestowitz-TR matey: it's so effective you end up with a voice like Bill's! [13:47] schestowitz-TR rianne is always bemused by his voice [13:47] schestowitz-TR "mouse" [13:48] matey foreignpolicy.com/2007/07/30/the-sperm-donors-chinese-women-want-most/ [13:49] schestowitz-TR slow down, ladies [13:49] schestowitz-TR get your jar ready [13:49] schestowitz-TR for the "rich people" [13:50] matey im guessing this is a right-wing news site [13:50] matey its the only hit i found with the story [13:50] schestowitz-TR no [13:50] matey The Slate Group [13:50] schestowitz-TR it';s corporatist site [13:51] schestowitz-TR and imperialist [13:51] schestowitz-TR but not right/left [13:51] matey The creation of The Slate Group was announced by Donald Graham, the chairman and CEO of The Washington Post Company, in a press release on June 4, 2008. [13:51] matey hmm [13:51] matey st site [13:51] matey #techrights : 03/30/22 12:51 <- just the logo made me think it was right wing [13:52] matey and imperialist <- meant to point to this [13:52] *inky (~inky@5.77.180.201) has joined #techrights [13:52] matey i consider imperialist right wing, but point taken [13:52] schestowitz-TR imperialism is not right wing (anymore) [13:52] schestowitz-TR see Blair [13:53] matey thats because the "left" is imperialist (but i still think thats) [13:53] matey i used to call him tory blair [13:53] schestowitz-TR B'Liar [13:53] matey rms i think [13:53] schestowitz-TR rms called his mate Gordon Clown [13:54] schestowitz-TR What's his uptime? [13:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:59] TR News Links 30/03/2022: Ubuntu MATE 22.04 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/ubuntu-mate-22-04/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/ubuntu-mate-22-04/ [13:59] TR Bot Links 30/03/2022: Ubuntu MATE 22.04 | Techrights ● Mar 30 [14:00] psydruid > though quite a lot of people during bush ii were asking the rest of the world to please invade [14:00] psydruid have some people lost all hope in the country's "leadership"? [14:00] TR News Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163141 [14:00] TR Bot Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:01] matey the usa is largely divided [14:02] matey it used to be part of the presidents job to bring the country together including those who didnt vote for them [14:02] matey not to run it like two different countries, with one in charge of the other during a term [14:02] *BTcoInk has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [14:02] matey now the latter imo describes the way america is "managed" [14:03] matey i say "managed" rather then "run" because the former implies a lot of it is image-based [14:03] matey image management [14:03] matey which describes contemporary politics better than "running a country" does [14:03] matey no matter who you vote for, you always get the kardashians [14:04] matey its a television-based regime [14:04] schestowitz-TR the us is divided [14:04] schestowitz-TR 22 millionaires [14:04] schestowitz-TR 250,000,000-300,000,000 poor people [14:04] schestowitz-TR and a few left in between [14:05] schestowitz-TR putting their savings in Wall Street [14:05] matey 22 millionaires <- i dated one of them [14:05] matey im sure you didnt mean 22 millionaires [14:05] schestowitz-TR because the interest in the bank is sub $wall street will each them next [14:05] schestowitz-TR and then celebrate another 1 million millionaires and a thousand billionaires [14:06] schestowitz-TR their media, like washpo, will write about "Difficult People" pooing on pavements [14:06] schestowitz-TR 22 million millionaires [14:06] schestowitz-TR it's hard to type that [14:06] matey yeah im not giving you shit about typos [14:06] matey but i didnt know what you meant [14:07] schestowitz https://usdebtclock.org/ [14:07] TR Bot U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time [14:07] schestowitz total us debt 89 trillion [14:07] schestowitz 22 trillion personal debt [14:07] matey their media, like washpo, will write about "Difficult People" pooing on pavements <- at least they dont poo on peoples doorsteps, like wapo does [14:08] matey /me used to call it "the washington compost" [14:08] schestowitz gdp 24 trillion [14:08] schestowitz national debt 30+ [14:08] matey they did have a legacy of good reporting [14:08] matey its just they were long past that by the time jeff bought them [14:08] matey no, other jeff [14:09] schestowitz it says 22.11 million millionaires [14:09] schestowitz but not sure how they define that [14:09] schestowitz a million in assets [14:09] schestowitz in bank [14:09] matey in assets im sure [14:09] schestowitz do kids of a millionaire parent count [14:09] schestowitz what if divorced? [14:09] matey no [14:10] matey kids that dont have a million in their own account would not count [14:10] matey outside of people magazine [14:10] schestowitz anyway, US will have more billioanire [14:11] schestowitz until SHTF [14:11] schestowitz then they will move elsewhere [14:11] schestowitz like NZ [14:11] matey or an alice cooper album [14:11] schestowitz they already got the dual/passport/naturalisation going [14:11] schestowitz like Syprus [14:11] schestowitz Cyprus [14:11] *bnchs (~bnchs@st38abnxc6jjg.irc) has joined #techrights [14:11] schestowitz the latest: [14:11] schestowitz https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/11/9/21547055/eric-schmidt-google-citizen-cyprus-european-union [14:11] TR Bot Google CEO Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus - Vox [14:11] schestowitz https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/eric-schmidt-reportedly-applied-to-become-a-citizen-of-cyprus.html [14:11] TR Bot Eric Schmidt reportedly applied to become a citizen of Cyprus [14:12] schestowitz also popular among russian "oligarchs" [14:12] matey did they reject the application? [14:13] schestowitz-TR they would not [14:13] schestowitz-TR they need that [14:13] matey i wouldnt think so [14:13] bnchs hey schestowitz [14:13] schestowitz-TR cyprus is an oddball economy [14:13] bnchs you're gonna love this [14:13] bnchs https://files.catbox.moe/u8yzhk.jpg [14:13] TR Bot connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/u8yzhk.jpg ) [14:14] *psydruid applies for citizenship of cypress hill [14:14] schestowitz-TR bnchs: what is this shit? [14:14] schestowitz-TR said the toilet seat [14:15] matey https://files.catbox.moe/u8yzhk.jpg <- are the pipes backed up or is the server just down [14:15] schestowitz-TR iirc, cyprus has 3 international airports [14:16] schestowitz-TR not too far apart from each other [14:16] matey ACTION applies for citizenship of cypress hill <- cant think of the country without thinking of the band either [14:16] schestowitz-TR I even took taxi from one to another, due to almost missing a plane [14:16] matey taxi! take me to the airport! "but we are already here" [14:16] bnchs matey: well when the servers go down, it will be fun [14:16] schestowitz-TR bnchs: "oh shit" [14:17] bnchs people unable to flush their toilets because the smart toilet sms server stopped working [14:17] matey "i shouldnt have eaten all that pasta, im gonna ddos my lotus tomorrow!" [14:17] *schestowitz-TR installs skype, microsoft gets list of contacts and "call" history [14:17] schestowitz-TR (shit history [14:18] matey /me mark z Likes This [14:18] schestowitz-TR "user also liked..." [14:19] bnchs smart toilet is the future now [14:19] matey Lotus ATS-1000 is designed to provide you with unprecedented comfort in your daily toilet routine. The special Pure Stream function effectively helps to relieve constipation. [14:19] schestowitz-TR bnchs: where does it go if you reply to the SMS? Wait, don't tell me... [14:19] matey wow. [14:19] schestowitz-TR (right in the shitlist) [14:20] matey so its a smart toilet with built-in enema. [14:20] bnchs wait what? [14:20] matey ill get you the poo rl [14:20] matey quote was from here https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lotus-Smart-Hygiene-Seat-ATS-1000-Advanced-Smart-Electric-Bidet-Seat-for-Elongated-Toilets-with-Remote-in-White-ATS-1000L/303396094 [14:20] bnchs the toilets gonna start blasting your ass [14:20] schestowitz-TR see? "luxury" items [14:21] schestowitz-TR likle bidet [14:21] bnchs maybe a little orgasm [14:21] schestowitz-TR gold-plated biden [14:21] matey this is not the first toilet ive heard about with its own bidet [14:21] schestowitz-TR with 3 cameras in it [14:21] schestowitz-TR to cover all angles [14:21] schestowitz-TR *bidet [14:21] schestowitz-TR lol [14:21] matey rich people angles [14:21] bnchs lol 3 cameras [14:21] bnchs gonna get careful look at your ass and dick [14:21] bnchs sending pics to gulag [14:21] schestowitz-TR for caliberation [14:21] bnchs clown [14:21] schestowitz-TR it needs to triangulate [14:22] schestowitz-TR stereovision too [14:22] schestowitz-TR and one spare [14:22] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:22] schestowitz-TR there was parody about this in gulagtube [14:22] schestowitz-TR wait [14:22] bnchs smart toilet [14:22] bnchs want to shit real bad [14:22] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [14:22] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [14:22] bnchs shits out a big dump [14:23] bnchs flushes [14:23] bnchs "please verify before flushing" [14:23] bnchs i remember i changed phone numbers [14:23] matey no ones joked about a toilet that takes selfies yet? [14:23] schestowitz-TR I see lots of parodies [14:23] schestowitz-TR cannot remember which one I saw about 5 years ago [14:23] matey i mean why just tweet what youve eaten BEFORE you eat it [14:23] matey sometimes its more impressive later [14:24] bnchs orginial source: [14:24] bnchs https://nitter.net/atdanwhite/status/1508578360217292802 [14:24] TR Bot Dan White (@atdanwhite): "Does anyone know how to turn off two-factor authentication on their Lotus SmartToilet? Driving me insane." | nitter [14:24] schestowitz MAYBE this: Smart Pipe | Infomercials | Adult Swim - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ [14:24] TR Bot Smart Pipe | Infomercials | Adult Swim - Invidious [14:25] bnchs adult swim parody comes true [14:25] schestowitz Guy Martin Tries Out a Japanese Toilet? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=e767uc1aBJo [14:25] TR Bot Guy Martin Tries Out a Japanese Toilet? - Invidious [14:26] schestowitz Why You Need to Try a High-Tech Japanese Toilet - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GZRwI7m7gnw [14:26] TR Bot Why You Need to Try a High-Tech Japanese Toilet - Invidious [14:26] matey its not difficult to understand why kurt vonnegut killed himself [14:26] matey this is the sort of thing he was trying to avoid [14:26] TR News 10 Lightweight Linux Distributions for your Old Hardware in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163142 [14:26] TR Bot 10 Lightweight Linux Distributions for your Old Hardware in 2022 | Tux Machines [14:27] bnchs a toilet does 1 job and it does it good [14:27] matey unix philosophy! [14:27] bnchs you want smart toilet, go use toiletd [14:27] schestowitz-TR having electronics there might be 'OK' [14:27] schestowitz-TR Biden need not be evil, either [14:27] matey some people think it should have never been extended to cover #2 and they should have used a different tool for the job [14:27] schestowitz-TR the issue isn't the technofascism [14:27] schestowitz-TR but the connection of it to other things [14:27] schestowitz-TR like "smart" sex toys [14:28] schestowitz-TR and all those "wearable" things [14:28] bnchs smart sex toys? [14:28] bnchs holy shit [14:28] matey toiletd-- now also has a sink for handwashing [14:28] schestowitz-TR internet-connected [14:28] schestowitz-TR they send stats and stuff [14:28] matey and a toothbrush holder [14:28] matey and a bathtub [14:28] bnchs i've actually seen a free software driver for..... [14:28] bnchs sex toys [14:28] schestowitz-TR electroric toothbrush fine [14:28] schestowitz-TR not for me but fine [14:28] schestowitz-TR I use electric shaver again [14:28] schestowitz-TR due to cost of gas now [14:29] schestowitz-TR but the shaver does not need to connect to anything like a router [14:29] schestowitz-TR it can also run on batteries [14:29] schestowitz-TR just need power to rotate [14:29] matey like "smart" sex toys and all those "wearable" things <- and wearble sex toys [14:29] schestowitz-TR a microwave needs to have power to heat [14:29] schestowitz-TR and that's heat [14:29] schestowitz-TR maybe a clock [14:29] schestowitz-TR and that's it [14:29] bnchs matey: people unironically wear soy toys [14:30] schestowitz-TR my mind went there for a sec [14:30] matey clock makes sense because-- leaving a microwave on until you turn it off is a bad idea [14:30] bnchs i means ex toys [14:30] matey ovens have clocks too [14:30] schestowitz-TR or you can use fire alarrm as a clock [14:30] schestowitz-TR or smoke alarm [14:30] schestowitz-TR that works too [14:30] matey matey: people unironically wear soy toys <- some are meant to be used that way [14:30] schestowitz-TR but the food doesn't taste good [14:30] schestowitz-TR it's also more hassle [14:30] schestowitz-TR if you can get back in there [14:31] bnchs i need a smart oven [14:31] schestowitz-TR zbtw, today's "smart" kitchen appliances [14:31] schestowitz-TR would not work well [14:31] schestowitz-TR bad testing [14:31] schestowitz-TR remote updates [14:31] schestowitz-TR breaking things [14:31] schestowitz-TR even basics like the clock [14:31] schestowitz-TR they will ship fast [14:31] schestowitz-TR without testing [14:31] matey /me has a smart pan [14:31] schestowitz-TR causing house fires and ruin [14:32] matey when you put it on the burner, it gets hot [14:32] matey how does it know? [14:32] bnchs smart oven doing endian conversion [14:32] schestowitz-TR "just keep the oven on "OTA" updates" [14:32] matey when you take it off the burner, it cools off automatically! [14:32] bnchs "setting tempurate to 12388495C" [14:32] matey technology is amazing [14:32] schestowitz-TR the likelihood of things breaking will increase [14:32] schestowitz-TR inc. basics [14:32] schestowitz-TR airplanes try to separate steering from infotainment [14:33] schestowitz-TR but for cost-savings that's no longer true [14:33] schestowitz-TR so passenger can hijack the whole plane [14:33] schestowitz-TR and even steer it [14:33] schestowitz-TR (happened) [14:33] matey thats why pilots should never share their account password with passengers [14:33] schestowitz-TR bnchs: press "Report Bug" [14:33] schestowitz-TR "this incident will be reported." [14:34] bnchs now just imagine someone using the oven to cook something illegal [14:34] matey /me tried to use bug report once [14:34] bnchs or its smoking or some shit [14:34] schestowitz-TR bnchs: like pork [14:34] matey i thought they were going to come kill it [14:34] bnchs yeah pork [14:34] schestowitz-TR "it looks like you are a cooking a dog" [14:34] matey they just told me to upgrade to the latest version [14:34] bnchs "haram food detected. this incident will be reported to ISIS" [14:34] schestowitz-TR oven: "oh, never mind, you have a chinese ip address. never mind , bon appetie" [14:35] matey i told them i didnt want to upgrade it, i wanted to uninstall it [14:35] bnchs "geolocation reported to nearest Islamic State fighters" [14:35] schestowitz-TR bnchs: if you live in afghanistan [14:35] schestowitz-TR and then the taliban takes over [14:35] schestowitz-TR and raids the Oven Inc. company [14:36] schestowitz-TR fot server logs [14:36] matey iot = internet of taliban [14:36] psydruid lol [14:36] schestowitz-TR matey: don\t make fun [14:36] bnchs its more like [14:36] schestowitz-TR "this incident will be reported." [14:36] schestowitz-TR "I kill you@@" [14:36] bnchs the taliban will find the source code of the oven firmware [14:36] bnchs and modify it to report haram food [14:36] bnchs and then send the "update" [14:37] schestowitz-TR it'll be sent in batches [14:37] schestowitz-TR overnight [14:37] schestowitz-TR to throw reverse engineers off the scent [14:37] schestowitz-TR that's what gulag does with android [14:37] schestowitz-TR maybe other devices like nest [14:37] schestowitz-TR "to improve your experience" [14:38] schestowitz-TR "to improve your battery life" [14:38] schestowitz-TR we send in patches [14:38] schestowitz-TR aggregated "BIG DATA" [14:38] schestowitz-TR some data [14:38] schestowitz-TR nothiong fancy [14:38] matey patches? [14:38] schestowitz-TR just data [14:38] matey patches? [14:38] schestowitz-TR it's just "meta" anyway [14:38] matey we dont need no steenking patches [14:38] schestowitz-TR nothing personal [14:38] schestowitz-TR iPatch [14:38] schestowitz-TR (eye patch) [14:38] schestowitz-TR sinatra stuffed his head in the oven [14:38] schestowitz-TR at least once [14:39] schestowitz-TR the oven wasn't smart enough [14:39] schestowitz-TR alexa did not listen [14:39] bnchs what if [14:39] matey they got under his skin [14:39] bnchs the taliban got access to alexa firmware source code and the update servers [14:39] schestowitz-TR matey: well done, well done [14:39] schestowitz-TR and now the end is near [14:40] matey thats life [14:40] schestowitz-TR bnchs: maybe all those echos in afghanistan will come in handy [14:40] schestowitz-TR it has long been said these devices will turn sour in the "wrong" hands [14:40] bnchs taliban driving with a speaker van [14:40] schestowitz-TR of course the pentagon and its privatised offshots are also "wrong" hands [14:41] schestowitz-TR bnchs: to detect people who - gasp - listen to music [14:41] matey its "my way" or the huawei [14:41] bnchs yes music is haram [14:41] schestowitz-TR or detect faces if females [14:41] schestowitz-TR not covered [14:41] bnchs "ALEXA, WHAT DOES MY SHOPPING CART HAVE" [14:42] matey native americans used to say that a camera would steal your soul [14:42] matey they were off by at least a hundred years, but still [14:42] matey "to be fair, we had never heard of a phone camera" [14:42] schestowitz-TR stealing my photons [14:42] schestowitz-TR the clown does [14:43] schestowitz-TR the cloud [14:43] schestowitz-TR and the clown [14:43] matey "or a smart bidet" [14:43] schestowitz-TR or smart biden [14:43] matey enjoy your flush [14:43] schestowitz-TR luck be a lady [14:44] bnchs "warning. blood detected in toilet" [14:44] bnchs "this incident will be reported" [14:44] bnchs "flushing disabled" [14:44] TR News Whats new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Beta Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163143 [14:44] TR Bot What's new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Beta | Tux Machines [14:45] matey /me is waiting for the iphone to be replaced with a seashell [14:45] MinceR i already had a Seashell, it was an EeePC model :> [14:45] matey but what did the other 2 do? [14:46] TR News Linux Mint Cinnamon vs MATE: Which One To Choose? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163144 [14:46] TR Bot Linux Mint Cinnamon vs MATE: Which One To Choose? | Tux Machines [14:46] MinceR i only had one [14:46] MinceR actually i think the name was that of the design, probably the second EeePC design they had [14:46] schestowitz-TR enjoy your microphone with a BOOTLOADER [14:47] schestowitz-TR and microwave, too [14:47] matey GNU Typist is currently being maintained by Mihai Gtejescu <- thats kind of mean [14:47] schestowitz-TR coming soon: bootloader on your covid-10 disposable test kit [14:47] MinceR lol @ microwave scare [14:47] schestowitz-TR some disposable test kids come with a full electric circuit [14:47] matey "im learning how to type with this software, who can i thank?" [14:47] schestowitz-TR thrown away after one use [14:47] matey "Mihai Gtejescu" [14:48] matey "you know maybe ill just learn the piano" [14:48] bnchs mihai [14:48] bnchs gate jes cu [14:48] bnchs i dont understand [14:48] schestowitz-TR "wait, I cannot cook the meal yet, the microwave is rebooting and after the upgrade it has systemd" [14:49] schestowitz-TR (I also hook up external screen to the microwave) [14:49] matey /me thanks lennart for turning every instance of "system" in the world to a typo [14:49] schestowitz-TR (don't ask... wayland compatibility issues with the onboard screen) [14:49] bnchs Microsoft Microwave [14:49] bnchs Updating.... 0% Please don't shutdown the microwave [14:50] matey /me flips the clock on his microwave around to convert it to tablet/hicachi mode [14:50] schestowitz-TR new onboard screen would cost more than a new microwave of the same kind [14:50] schestowitz-TR the external screen has 4 USB ports, but I don't use them... [14:50] matey its actually hibachi mode, but this is a cheap knockoff [14:50] schestowitz-TR and it uses HDMI [14:50] schestowitz-TR so it has a speaker there too [14:51] schestowitz-TR now I can amplify the sound of the frying [14:51] matey toiletd now has its own microwave [14:51] matey dont fucking ask me why [14:51] schestowitz-TR "my microwave keeps asking for the wifi password" [14:52] schestowitz-TR it says something "DHCP" after the latest OTA update [14:52] schestowitz-TR so I can only cook in "basic" mode [14:53] schestowitz-TR and "defrost" [14:53] schestowitz-TR "oh well..." [14:53] schestowitz-TR "at least it's smart" [14:53] matey oh hey, github is doing a captcha [14:53] matey nie [14:54] schestowitz-TR tor? [14:54] matey yeah [14:54] schestowitz-TR you are the lucky o [14:54] schestowitz-TR *one [14:54] matey i told it im not actually from the netherlands and it let me through :) [14:54] schestowitz-TR if you hosted a site there, it would just say "site offline" [14:54] bnchs subscriptions [14:54] matey ^ mincer [14:54] bnchs schestowitz-TR: imagine smart toilet subscription [14:54] bnchs pay for 10 flushes per month for 50$ [14:54] schestowitz-TR how much is biden mode per month? [14:55] schestowitz-TR I don't want to be "loo pirate|" [14:55] schestowitz-TR like toyota with the keyfob thing [14:55] schestowitz-TR pay extra to start the car as you approach it? That's a monthly fee [14:55] schestowitz-TR /s/biden/bidet/ [14:55] schestowitz-TR I keep making that typo [14:55] matey /me was trying to view a developer in bucharest, but couldnt because it thought i was budapest [14:56] matey gotta love the new internet [14:56] schestowitz-TR but when the president has such shit ratring I cannot be blamed [14:57] bnchs schestowitz-TR: you think thats bad? [14:57] TR News But Microsoft's OWN criminals have NOT been arrested. Nor have the Microsofters who left these holes open. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqLZOlN9xrE [14:57] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bqLZOlN9xrE [14:57] TR Bot yewtu.be | Nvidia & Microsoft Hackers Now Arrested & Doxxed - Invidious [14:57] bnchs remember when i had to pay 10$ to unlock my frontdoor so i can go home? [14:58] bnchs or go out [14:58] bnchs *cutaway* [14:58] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 372.46 [14:59] schestowitz-TR bnchs: the future.. [14:59] schestowitz-TR or present [14:59] schestowitz-TR hard to keep track anymore ● Mar 30 [15:00] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163145 [15:00] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:00] bnchs you think THATS bad????? [15:00] bnchs remember when i got sick of it, and decided to smash the door open [15:00] bnchs and the incident got reported and i got arrested [15:00] TR News Antitrust abuses by Microsoft criminals https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/microsoft_browser_choice/ [15:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/microsoft_browser_choice/ [15:00] TR Bot Microsoft moves to 1-click default browser change The Register [15:02] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@zj7ff6e5edb5q.irc) has joined #techrights [15:02] TR News They keep doing this. The criminals who keep doing this (also bribing officials) never get prosecuted and arrested. Instead they bribe the media, inc. The Verge. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/29/23001277/microsoft-windows-11-default-browser-new-options [15:02] TR Bot Microsoft is finally making it easier to switch default browsers in Windows 11 - The Verge [15:03] TR News Do we have a cracker problem or a back doors problem? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [15:03] TR Bot Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [15:03] bnchs lol [15:04] bnchs microsoft is finally making it "easier" to switch default browsers in windows 11 [15:04] bnchs *-10% easier [15:05] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/relatable-posts-about-work-14.jpg [15:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/relatable-posts-about-work-14.jpg [15:05] TR News Rolling Rhino: A rolling-release remix of Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163034#comment-33236 [15:05] TR Bot Ubuntu becomes a rolling release with Rolling Rhino | Tux Machines [15:05] schestowitz-TR bnchs: microsoft *clap clap* crackers caught [15:05] schestowitz-TR after exploiting our back doors [15:05] schestowitz-TR bnchs: microsoft *clap clap* we stopped shipping malware [15:06] schestowitz-TR after blaming "open source" (brandon) [15:06] schestowitz-TR THANK YOU, Microsoft! [15:06] bnchs yes [15:06] bnchs they like to stage shit for PR stunts [15:06] bnchs every company does [15:07] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:07] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:14] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [15:16] *matey has quit (connection closed) [15:18] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:19] psydruid as if anything is going to save them anymore [15:20] psydruid they probably lost so many users to all of this bs that they couldn't do anything other than "condone" setting another browser as the default in one place [15:21] schestowitz-TR antitrust action is business risk [15:21] schestowitz-TR historically, when Microsoft wilkl trying to dodge heavy fines [15:22] schestowitz-TR it was spinning it in the media as an act of goodwill [15:22] schestowitz-TR one example uis Samba/SMB [15:22] schestowitz-TR and then people like Me. NON-secure boot [15:22] schestowitz-TR would help them spin that, too [15:22] schestowitz-TR or microsoft 'support' for ODF [15:22] schestowitz-TR which is bogus [15:22] schestowitz-TR and was designed to advance their OOXML agenda [15:27] TR News "former IBM data scientist, has sued Big Blue for gender discrimination and retaliation after he complained that he was not being offered the same family leave options available to his women colleagues." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ibm_equality_lawsuit/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Ageism [15:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ibm_equality_lawsuit/ [15:27] TR Bot Axed IBM scientist sues over alleged gender discrimination The Register [15:27] TR Bot IBM - Techrights [15:27] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163146 [15:27] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:29] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:29] TR News EmuDeck makes emulation on Steam Deck nice and simple | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/emudeck-makes-emulation-on-steam-deck-nice-and-simple/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [15:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/emudeck-makes-emulation-on-steam-deck-nice-and-simple/ [15:29] TR Bot makes emulation on Steam Deck nice and simple | GamingOnLinux [15:30] TR News "RetroArch, the very popular application front-end for emulators and more has a new release out and it includes better support for the Steam Deck. The improvements benefit all Steam users of course but, for the Steam Deck especially, it's awesome." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/retroarch-gets-big-steam-deck-improvements/ [15:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/retroarch-gets-big-steam-deck-improvements/ [15:30] TR Bot gets big Steam Deck improvements | GamingOnLinux [15:37] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/relatable-posts-about-work-23.jpg [15:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/relatable-posts-about-work-23.jpg [15:41] TR News Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/ [15:41] TR Bot Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | Techrights [15:44] *alextee (~alextee@dexiw29c8htcg.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] TR News The Netherlands needs drug reform (yes, really) gemini://drewdevault.com/2022/03/30/Marijuana-reform-in-NL.gmi [15:49] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163147 [15:49] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [15:51] TR News This week Germany will have more confirmed COVID-19 cases than the UK. The survival rate is vastly higher there. [15:56] TR News SPAMnil, who ruined LINUX.COM, seems to have broken a new record. 9 videos views in 8 days. I reckon those views are just SPAMnil and his "guest" checking that the video works. GulagTube says he has 22.2k subscribers. I LOL. [15:56] schestowitz-TR one per day [15:56] schestowitz-TR upon debut [15:56] schestowitz-TR sort of like linux.com [15:57] schestowitz-TR 50 views a week [15:57] schestowitz-TR for their spam [15:58] TR News Richard Stallman's impending talk is not listed here https://stallman.org/talks.html [15:58] TR Bot Talks - Richard Stallman ● Mar 30 [16:02] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:18] *alextee (~alextee@dexiw29c8htcg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:21] TR News No More COVID-19 Testing Kits, But the Numbers Are Soaring, Plague Unresolved http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/30/plague-unresolved/ [16:21] TR Bot Blog Archive No More COVID-19 Testing Kits, But the Numbers Are Soaring, Plague Unresolved [16:22] *techrights_guest|1 (~29ddcf97@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:22] *techrights_guest|1 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [16:24] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [16:26] TR News Wasting a Raspberry Pi to promote Microsoft's proprietary vendor lock-in that's in effect an attack on Free software and on Git https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/github_issue_printer/ [16:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/github_issue_printer/ [16:26] TR Bot Dev rigs up receipt printer to spit out GitHub issues The Register [16:26] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picturers-3-24-22-7.jpg [16:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picturers-3-24-22-7.jpg [16:27] TR News "The modern CIO role has morphed into one that is equal parts technologist, business strategist, and transformational change agent." Mostly buzzwords slinging, no real substance. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/leadership-tips-cios-evolve-digital-strategy [16:27] TR Bot 5 leadership tips for CIOs to evolve their digital strategy | The Enterprisers Project [16:28] TR News More buzzwords salad: "But how do we as leaders cultivate these qualities in our teams and create a culture of resiliency?" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/build-resilient-it-team [16:28] TR Bot Want to build a resilient IT team? Follow this advice | The Enterprisers Project [16:32] TR News ICBM is promoting lots of mindless buzzwords https://opensource.com/article/22/3/aqua-security-devsecops [16:32] TR Bot Aqua Security is approaching DevSecOps in 2022 | Opensource.com [16:34] TR News Seems like a bubble. You don't need a special company for this. HP trying to buy itself an identity https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/hp_buys_poly/ [16:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/hp_buys_poly/ [16:34] TR Bot HP buys office-telco firm Poly, in bet on hybrid work trend The Register [16:35] XRevan86 activelow: Pieskov stated that the transition of payments to rubles is a slow process. [16:35] XRevan86 activelow: Seems like this went nowhere, who knew. [16:35] schestowitz-TR piesk off!! [16:38] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:40] XRevan86 It's a mystery why Putin even demanded payment in rubles in the first place. "Compromised currencies" are magic words that I will leave to ctivelow, in reality Russia wants these currencies, and my only hypothesis is that conversion of euros and dollars in Russian banks would help the Russian ruble's exchange rate. [16:40] XRevan86 I.e. injecting the Russian ruble as a MITM to help it out. [16:41] TR News GNUnet 0.16.3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163148 [16:41] TR Bot GNUnet 0.16.3 | Tux Machines [16:41] TR News App Icons Taskbar Puts Running Apps in GNOME Shells Top Bar Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163149 [16:41] XRevan86 But the existing contracts don't allow that, the buyers aren't willing to bend over, and all Russia can do in that situation is say "okay" [16:41] TR Bot App Icons Taskbar Puts Running Apps in GNOME Shells Top Bar | Tux Machines [16:42] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: the Ruble is shaky like Putin [16:42] XRevan86 Who needs whom more? [16:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: They employed some weird machinations, and the Russian ruble by the Central Bank exchange rate went down to 83 rubles for a dollar. [16:45] TR News "While this experience is open for everyone, Igalia expressly invites women (both cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people to apply." Filling quotas. https://blogs.igalia.com/siglesias/2022/03/30/Igalia-Coding-Experience-GSOC-Outreachy-EVoC/ [16:45] TR Bot Igalia Coding Experience, GSoC, Outreachy, EVoC - Samuel Iglesias Gonslvez's blog [16:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:45] XRevan86 Machinations like limiting foreign currencies' operations in Russia, restricting the stock market, et al. [16:46] XRevan86 Didn't expect that all this would fly, but evidently it does. [16:46] schestowitz-TR does trading in USD get you flagged foreign agent? [16:46] schestowitz-TR it s de facto martial law in russia [16:46] schestowitz-TR today I read 15k Russian had died already [16:46] schestowitz-TR those are front liners [16:47] schestowitz-TR probably the "better" among combatants [16:47] schestowitz-TR with the best equipment [16:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [16:47] schestowitz-TR not reserves and spares [16:47] XRevan86 Moving USDs abroad is a legal offence of some kind indeed. [16:47] XRevan86 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://rbc.ru/finances/30/03/2022/624441a49a79475c35453a44 check this out. [16:47] TR Bot [16:47] XRevan86 > The Central Bank recommended different rates to banks for importers and other companies [16:48] schestowitz-TR US gov: let's sanction Russians [16:48] schestowitz-TR UK gov: let's sanction Russians [16:48] schestowitz-TR EU govs: let's sanction Russians [16:48] schestowitz-TR Russian gov: let's sanction Russians [16:49] XRevan86 Ye're not wrong. [16:49] schestowitz-TR funnt thing is this: [16:49] schestowitz-TR media mentions putin and russia interchangeably [16:50] schestowitz-TR while highlighting putin being a dictator [16:50] XRevan86 Even I do that. [16:50] schestowitz-TR if he's a dictator, then he lacks the consent of russia [16:50] schestowitz-TR so why assume russia=putin? [16:51] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.114.138) has joined #techrights [16:51] schestowitz-TR look at EPO [16:51] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:51] schestowitz-TR we do not assume patent examiners are management [16:51] schestowitz-TR or that they support Team UPC [16:51] XRevan86 Well, the current lines of thought don't really account for dictatorships of this calibre. [16:51] schestowitz-TR so we help them attack the management and it works [16:52] XRevan86 Late USSR was a lot more liberal than what Russia has now. [16:53] TR News Oracle adds autoML to its MySQL HeatWave service - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/oracle_automl_mysql/ Source: theregister [16:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/oracle_automl_mysql/ [16:53] TR Bot Oracle adds autoML to its MySQL HeatWave service The Register [16:53] XRevan86 Also we live in the times when a dictator can literally rule the country from a bunker. [16:54] *alextee (~alextee@s3zbvv74fy5e6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:54] schestowitz-TR he has a palace, no? [16:54] schestowitz-TR Putin's palance [16:54] schestowitz-TR and subs [16:54] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:54] XRevan86 It's under reconstruction. [16:55] schestowitz-TR heh, maybe he'll make a palace inside a sub, too [16:55] schestowitz-TR just to keep safe [16:55] schestowitz-TR "lay low, Vlad" [16:55] XRevan86 He never actually lived there. [16:55] schestowitz-TR He's Putin some new stuff in there [16:56] TR News Games: TFC: The Fertile Crescent, EmuDeck, RetroArch Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163150 [16:56] TR Bot Games: TFC: The Fertile Crescent, EmuDeck, RetroArch | Tux Machines [16:56] XRevan86 The original (super expensive of course) design had flawed ventilation and the palace molded. [16:56] TR News Dennis is a free software game developer in his spare time. http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/ [16:56] TR Bot Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | Techrights [16:57] TR News IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163151 [16:57] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 93.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 479.76 [16:59] TR News Dude, only NSApple is allowed to do THAT https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/apple_watch_tracking_allegations/ [16:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/apple_watch_tracking_allegations/ [16:59] TR Bot Man accused of trying to track woman using Apple Watch The Register ● Mar 30 [17:01] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/YQ79Kz5.jpeg [17:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/YQ79Kz5.jpeg [17:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:02] schestowitz-TR MinceR: better than humans [17:02] XRevan86 Also a lot of previous understandings of how the Russian rulership works flew out of the window when it became evident that the Russian "elite" can suffer huge losses and still do nothing. [17:02] schestowitz-TR same in the West [17:03] schestowitz-TR this is not a Russian problem [17:03] schestowitz-TR Russia just has it too [17:03] schestowitz-TR What ELSE could it do? [17:04] schestowitz-TR the oligarchs don't have nukes [17:04] *inky (~inky@46.36.114.138) has joined #techrights [17:04] schestowitz-TR they rely on the Army being on their side too [17:04] MinceR 30 180234 < schestowitz-TR> MinceR: better than humans [17:04] MinceR indeed [17:04] schestowitz-TR that's why you post pussy pics (cat pics) [17:05] schestowitz-TR bigs cats love humans [17:05] XRevan86 Looks like Putin can do *anything* and don't have this authority threatened. Even absolute monarchs of the past didn't have that luxury. [17:05] schestowitz-TR microsoft loves linux [17:06] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: trump fell out of favour [17:06] XRevan86 But maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. [17:06] schestowitz-TR the oligarchs found another salesman [17:06] schestowitz-TR he tried to stage a coup [17:06] schestowitz-TR and failed [17:06] schestowitz-TR military did not follow, either [17:06] schestowitz-TR but he will retry [17:07] XRevan86 Trump is too stupid to be successful. [17:07] TR News GParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163152 [17:07] TR Bot GParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release | Tux Machines [17:07] schestowitz-TR he contributes to harm to the oligarchs at one point [17:07] schestowitz-TR beccause the salesmanship was poor [17:07] XRevan86 Also not lucky enough. [17:07] schestowitz-TR like the tax cuts [17:07] schestowitz-TR Biden does the same [17:07] XRevan86 Putin was a man at the right place at the right time. [17:07] schestowitz-TR without enraging people as much [17:07] schestowitz-TR so he is still holding the reign [17:08] schestowitz-TR Russia should be rich like South Korea [17:08] schestowitz-TR same for North Korea [17:08] schestowitz-TR but they have a very shitty system [17:08] XRevan86 s/should be/could have been/ [17:09] schestowitz-TR fwiw, usa moved in the same direction [17:09] schestowitz-TR uk going there more slowly [17:09] schestowitz-TR (than usa) [17:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:18] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:19] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@prm89ktp9i3xg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:19] XRevan86 "same in the West" <- No. [17:19] XRevan86 Russia doesn't have power of the oligarchs or power of one political party, that would've been half-bad. [17:20] XRevan86 What it has is power by one unchecked unhinged man. [17:20] XRevan86 Trump tried to go against everyone else, and failed miserably. [17:21] XRevan86 That's not an example of the US being similiar to Russia, the opposite in fact. [17:31] XRevan86 Russia's economy hasn't collapsed yet though, so it's possible that the most interesting developments await us in the future. [17:35] *alextee (~alextee@2mavpjhjkd624.irc) has joined #techrights [17:35] psydruid I was told Yeltsin not only recommended Putin but even appointed him, which he later came to regret [17:36] MinceR https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2129.html [17:36] TR Bot Darths & Droids [17:36] XRevan86 "which he later came to regret" <- Never heard that. [17:37] psydruid I was wondering about that too [17:37] XRevan86 psydruid: Are ye sure ye didn't mean Berezovsky? [17:39] psydruid XRevan86, someone told me in some other chat, but that part of Russian history is a bit unclear to me, so I don't really know who is who apart from Yeltsin and Putin (and some others like Medvedev and Lebedev) [17:40] XRevan86 psydruid: Berezovsky is an oligarch that recommended Putin to Yeltsin and funded his party and campaign. [17:41] *matey (~matey@4ziai524ikkt6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:41] XRevan86 But after the election he quickly moved into opposition to Putin. [17:41] matey XRevan86 the mitm theory is good, its half the reason usa went back to iraq [17:41] matey you can have the oil, we just want it enumerated in dollars please [17:42] kingoffrance "Trump tried to go against everyone else, and failed miserably." subjectively. objectively pure idolatry "love your country with all your heart, all your soul". he was 100% protect the oligarchy, they are put there by "god". monarchy on the lee plan [17:42] kingoffrance it was entirely the "image" of an outsider [17:42] matey trump is the image of an extraterrestrial [17:43] matey as a cover, he hates illegal "aliens" [17:43] XRevan86 psydruid: "I was told X not only recommended Putin but even appointed him, which he later came to regret" <- I.e. this can be true if X is Boris Berezovsky. [17:43] kingoffrance modern major extraterrestrial [17:43] matey the very model of a [17:43] kingoffrance :) [17:43] kingoffrance i know! -- lee [17:43] matey tom lehrer not so much of a g&s fan [17:44] matey but does a marvelous parody of them [17:44] psydruid XRevan86, maybe that person wasn't clear enough about what they meant, but the name Berezovsky does ring a bell [17:44] kingoffrance *i dont think [there are aliens] i know! [17:44] matey todd rundgren does a wonderful tribute, its one of my favourite songs of his [17:45] matey it would be amusing if lehrer secretly loved the and rundgren secretly hated them [17:45] XRevan86 psydruid: He was featured in the Puppets episode that I referenced here several times. [17:46] XRevan86 The one that sparked one of the first Putin's repressive moves. [17:46] psydruid XRevan86, is it up somewhere? I must have missed that or generally not been aware of it [17:47] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:47] XRevan86 psydruid: https://youtu.be/eZJx9bgwdv0 sure [17:47] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eZJx9bgwdv0 [17:47] TR Bot yewtu.be | Dolls - Story of Putin - Little Zaches WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES - Invidious [17:47] matey adding to the incredible austrian cities of fucking and windpassing [17:48] matey and of course "scunthorpe" [17:48] matey russia has a city called "brest" [17:48] psydruid belarus? [17:48] matey maybe [17:49] XRevan86 psydruid: The last time I mentioned it was because "Zaches" starts with a "Z" :) [17:49] matey my geography is notoriously shit [17:49] matey is it belarus? [17:49] psydruid [17:49] psydruid yes [17:49] matey thank you [17:49] matey at least i might get it next time [17:49] psydruid I lived in Poland for a while and been around the country quite a bit [17:49] matey /me wouldnt make it 2 fucking minutes on jeopardy [17:49] psydruid more so than many Polish people [17:50] matey when i moved places i often find people know very little about where they live [17:50] matey in terms of trivia [17:50] matey they know where stuff is, but not how it got there [17:51] XRevan86 "[belarus] has a city called "brest"" <- What's the importance of this fact? [17:51] matey names that are moderately amusing in english. [17:51] matey but nothing beats fucking, austria [17:51] psydruid there is another brest in France [17:52] XRevan86 Apparently Anglophones love the Russian name Semen. [17:52] matey Semen <- hehehe [17:52] matey if i hadnt mentioned it i wouldnt have known [17:52] schestowitz-TR we had a goalkeeper [17:52] schestowitz-TR david seamen [17:52] matey oh in the south they had a governor named boner [17:52] matey bill boner [17:52] XRevan86 matey: :) [17:52] schestowitz-TR bohner [17:53] matey no it was actually spelled boner [17:53] XRevan86 The accent is on the second syllable though, and in modern Russian it's an sound. [17:53] XRevan86 s/accent/stress/ [17:53] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Seaman [17:53] TR Bot David Seaman - Wikipedia [17:53] XRevan86 So it doesn't actually sound like "semen". [17:53] psydruid Syemyon? [17:53] XRevan86 yea [17:54] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Boner [17:54] TR Bot Bill Boner - Wikipedia [17:54] XRevan86 MinceR wouldn't understand :) [17:54] XRevan86 (he doesn't get "stress") [17:54] schestowitz http://barryhugmansfootballers.com/player/17659 [17:54] TR Bot Barry Hugman's Footballers - DavidSeaman [17:56] XRevan86 Really don't know how MinceR speaks English when the schwa is the most common vowel in English, and it can never be stressed :) [17:56] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:56] schestowitz he became a big fat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jOjTGVVuOg [17:56] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1jOjTGVVuOg [17:56] TR Bot yewtu.be | I Couldve Signed For MAN UTD Instead of ARSENAL | David Seaman | Season 3 Ep #2 - Invidious [17:57] psydruid I must say that I am not that aware of the way Hungarian and other Finno-Ugric languages work [17:57] XRevan86 psydruid: Same, but we know how English works. [17:58] MinceR XRevan86: with the stress in the wrong place some of the time, probably [17:58] psydruid I know some, but that's just basic stuff and doesn't give me a thorough understanding [17:58] XRevan86 MinceR: So ye see the difference between "semen" and "sea-man"? ● Mar 30 [18:00] MinceR i don't [18:00] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.114.138) has joined #techrights [18:01] psydruid I think I understand what XRevan86 means now [18:03] psydruid a problem is that this isn't reflected in the spelling [18:04] psydruid which makes Russian harder than other Slavic languages in this respect at least [18:04] MinceR well, at least when teaching people russian, stress is marked [18:04] XRevan86 psydruid: I don't think ye do. [18:05] MinceR i pretty much never saw english text with the stress marked [18:05] XRevan86 Because stress is not reflected in English spelling either, and I'm using English as an example here. [18:05] MinceR afaik in russian spelling, stress is also often omitted [18:05] MinceR e.g. in newspapers [18:05] XRevan86 (I did hear some people mis-stress words in English, albeit rarer than in Russian) [18:06] psydruid XRevan86, I'm approaching this not from English, but from other Slavic languages I speak (Polish, Ukrainian and Serbian) [18:06] MinceR afaik even is just written as [18:07] psydruid maybe that's a curse or a blessing, depending on how you look at it [18:07] XRevan86 psydruid: I am still not completely sure what the true stress in Ukrainian is in some words. [18:08] XRevan86 There is some variation there, and I'm not always sure what the literary norm is. [18:08] psydruid = "Syemyenov"? [18:10] XRevan86 psydruid: In Russian "" is "S'em'nov", where the first two consonants are iotated, as represented by the ' marker. [18:10] psydruid Ah, it makes sense now [18:11] psydruid and the are usually omitted in writing? [18:11] XRevan86 If this were a Ukrainian surname, it would've looked like "" i.e. "Semeniv" [18:11] psydruid yes [18:11] psydruid which makes things a lot easier [18:12] XRevan86 Because of the lack of iotation, or because the historical e is always represented in writing (either with "" or with "" depending on whether the iotation remained) [18:13] XRevan86 "" ("s'hodni"), "" ("chomu") [18:14] *matey (~matey@7zmmwv4qqhr7u.irc) has joined #techrights [18:14] matey knocked offline by putlin [18:14] XRevan86 psydruid: Would ye know in advance where the stress in "" is? [18:14] schestowitz-TR j/him putlin? [18:14] matey so i learned something cool about brest, more interesting than the name [18:15] matey j/him putlin? <- i dont know his preferred pronouns [18:15] schestowitz-TR that is's natural? [18:15] schestowitz-TR no, jim zemlin [18:15] *XRevan86 used that spelling because it can help me make an observation later. [18:15] schestowitz-TR the imperial guy [18:15] matey turns out brest is where hitler first invaded when he decided (foolishly) to take on the ussr [18:15] psydruid XRevan86, I think it's on the first, but I wouldn't know why that would be the case [18:16] matey now theres this guy doing an eastern european pub crawl of sorts [18:16] XRevan86 psydruid: In Ukrainian? [18:16] matey and hes in vitebsk saying how the streets have the coolest names [18:16] matey "red army street" [18:16] psydruid XRevan86, oh, no idea about that [18:16] psydruid how should one know? [18:16] psydruid *could? [18:16] XRevan86 psydruid: No idea honestly :). But it's actually on the second syllable. [18:17] psydruid and in Russian? [18:17] matey schestowitz-TR i have no problem with people calling him putler if they prefer-- close enough [18:17] XRevan86 psydruid: The first syllable. [18:17] XRevan86 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/#Russian "Old East Slavic (komnata), from Latin camnta, probably through Old High German keminta as evidenced by the initial stress" [18:17] TR Bot - Wiktionary [18:17] matey though personally i think putlin is even more fitting [18:17] psydruid that's how I knew [18:17] schestowitz-TR I once read that zemlin might be a russian name [18:17] psydruid only for Russian apparently [18:17] schestowitz-TR zemlin and zemlina [18:17] matey since thats obviously what he aspires to [18:17] XRevan86 psydruid: Now here's the kicker: in Ukrainian "o" transitioned to "i" only in stressed positions. [18:18] schestowitz-TR not germanic as I initially assumed [18:18] TR News "Having downloaded the Steam Deck recovery image and written to a USB using 'Rufus', I was surprised that booting on various AMD mini PCs has so far been unsuccessful whereas after just a few tweaks it successfully booted on a couple of different Intel NUCs." https://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/2022/03/first-look-at-steamos-3.html [18:18] TR Bot linuxium.com.au: First look at SteamOS 3 [18:18] matey zemlin always makes me think of a failed clear wine cooler like drink from the 1990s [18:18] matey called zima [18:18] XRevan86 psydruid: In unstressed positions it sometimes shifts to "u" like in "", "" [18:18] matey i think they wanted to be a wine cooler aimed at the male demographic. that failed, and mikes hard succeeded shortly thereafter [18:18] matey because men like wine coolers too dammit [18:19] psydruid XRevan86, that's why you get things like r -> ? [18:19] XRevan86 psydruid: I think that Ukrainian moved through a stress shift *after* the phonetic shift. [18:19] XRevan86 * lived through [18:19] psydruid that's interesting [18:19] matey and yes, as it happens i believe boner was in office when mikes hard became popular [18:19] TR News This isn't Linux news, Liam. You're posting marketing BS for Intel/x86, which undermines the planet, security, fair competition etc. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/intel-arc-graphics-launches-for-laptops-desktop-gpus-later-this-year/ [18:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/intel-arc-graphics-launches-for-laptops-desktop-gpus-later-this-year/ [18:19] TR Bot Arc Graphics launches for laptops, desktop GPUs later this year | GamingOnLinux [18:20] matey probably a coincidence, but theres nothing like being in the right place at the right time [18:20] XRevan86 psydruid: Wiktionary gives both and [18:20] XRevan86 psydruid: I only heard "" myself. So the other variant is probably archaic and/or regional. [18:20] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zima_(drink) [18:20] TR Bot Zima (drink) - Wikipedia [18:20] psydruid zemlin, from zemlja? or zima? [18:21] psydruid the latter being winter? [18:21] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yUcq9_IsnXM [18:21] TR Bot Zima commercial (1994) - Invidious [18:21] XRevan86 psydruid: "that's interesting" <- Thanks, I'm pretty confident in that this is actually the case :). [18:21] psydruid XRevan86, thanks for unravelling the mystery [18:21] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemlin earth [18:21] TR Bot Zemlin - Wikipedia [18:21] schestowitz-TR psydruid: no, not that [18:21] schestowitz-TR I saw zemlina [18:22] schestowitz-TR context was, finding if he was lying [18:22] schestowitz-TR about his grandpa [18:22] schestowitz-TR which seems possible [18:22] schestowitz-TR he claimed he eas a cray co-founder [18:22] schestowitz-TR which I think is BS [18:22] schestowitz-TR Jim is full of BS [18:22] schestowitz-TR also claimed he could speak japanese [18:22] matey well he runs the linux foundation on a mac so [18:22] schestowitz-TR maybe as he was some one-year exchnge student [18:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: Fun fact: Putin's wife's surname was Putina. [18:22] matey no he said he was "turning japanese" [18:22] matey or at least he thought so [18:23] psydruid he's a supermac [18:23] XRevan86 schestowitz: Maybe that will give a hint on "Zemlina". [18:23] schestowitz-TR *exchange [18:23] schestowitz-TR torvalds accomplished a lot: Linux, Git [18:23] MinceR Lenina Huxley [18:23] schestowitz-TR Zemlin was a loser, whose career had failed and reached a dead end [18:23] XRevan86 psydruid: That also throws a wrench into that Ukrainian's stress is somehow more intuitive than Russian's :) [18:23] schestowitz-TR he wanted to do cooking for a living [18:23] XRevan86 psydruid: Both are complicated. In my perspective, equally complicated. [18:24] XRevan86 s/perspective/estimation/ [18:24] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4 [18:24] schestowitz watch this [18:24] matey if id been of drinking age when zima was around, i would have skipped it just because the commercials make macs look less douchebaggy [18:25] schestowitz-TR I've met people like james zemlin in my life [18:25] schestowitz-TR they're imposters [18:25] schestowitz-TR with fake credentials [18:25] schestowitz-TR like spamnil and james zemlin [18:25] matey you act like you knew zemlin in school and he was a dick to you personally [18:25] schestowitz-TR incidentally, sheela and james proped up spamni [18:26] schestowitz-TR [15:56] SPAMnil, who ruined LINUX.COM, seems to have broken a new record. 9 videos views in 8 days. I reckon those views are just SPAMnil and his "guest" checking that the video works. GulagTube says he has 22.2k subscribers. I LOL. [18:26] matey i dont doubt that most of what you say about him is true [18:26] matey it just seems personal [18:26] schestowitz-TR it is [18:26] schestowitz-TR look what they did [18:26] schestowitz-TR to linux [18:26] schestowitz-TR to lf [18:26] schestowitz-TR to torvalds [18:26] schestowitz-TR sending him to therapists [18:26] matey torvalds was a dick too, honestly [18:26] schestowitz-TR something stalin would do [18:26] matey yeah the therapists thing was a really stalin like move i know [18:26] matey i was going to say it before you did [18:26] matey its true [18:27] matey torvalds was a dick-- zemlin is a bigger dick [18:27] XRevan86 psydruid: Though there are also oi's in prepositions and such, their origin is still a mystery to me. [18:27] matey someone will be an even bigger dick than zemlin [18:27] matey open source eats their own [18:27] matey theres always someone worse [18:27] schestowitz-TR zemlin will be out the moment he starts behaving [18:27] schestowitz-TR like, not being a shill [18:27] psydruid XRevan86, can you give some examples? [18:28] schestowitz-TR remember: [18:28] schestowitz-TR we need to "respect Microsoft [18:28] matey what are the odds of zemlin not being a shill? hes 100% shameless [18:28] XRevan86 psydruid: pod- pid-, etc. [18:28] matey a puppet through and through [18:28] schestowitz-TR Microsoft Director: Microsoft bribes officials all around [18:28] schestowitz-TR Zemlin :we need to "respect Microsoft" [18:28] schestowitz-TR fsck /home/zemlin [18:28] matey holding microsoft accountable for crimes against humanity is like kicking a puppy! [18:29] psydruid kick that puppy hard! [18:29] TR News Games: SteamOS 3, Ubisoft Connect, and Crowns And Pawns: Kingdom of Deceit Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163153 [18:29] TR Bot Games: SteamOS 3, Ubisoft Connect, and Crowns And Pawns: Kingdom of Deceit | Tux Machines [18:29] schestowitz-TR matey: it's not a puppy [18:29] schestowitz-TR It's the NewPuppy [18:29] matey microsoft suspending the puppy linux website is like [18:29] matey its like [18:29] schestowitz-TR aka EasyOS [18:30] XRevan86 psydruid: If I ever find out that they used to be said with additional stress (like a separate word), that would be cool :) [18:30] matey XRevan86 james doohan fans [18:30] schestowitz-TR bashing Microsoft is like kicking puppy OFFLINE [18:30] matey there you go [18:30] psydruid XRevan86, we're going to find out the truth eventuall [18:30] psydruid y [18:31] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:6781:8ed6:b01a:dcf0) has joined #techrights [18:31] schestowitz-TR criticising putin is like kicking kittens [18:31] schestowitz-TR criticising putin is like kicking pussy riot [18:31] *guysoft42 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:31] XRevan86 psydruid: I'm sure it's no secret, but it's not like I can just put "did prepositions in old east slavic have additional stress" into a search engine and find an answer. [18:31] schestowitz-TR we need to respect putin [18:32] XRevan86 or "why did oi occur in prepositions in ukrainians if it generally happened with a stressed vowel" [18:32] XRevan86 * in ukrainian [18:32] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:32] schestowitz-TR open source loves putin [18:32] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Jim-Zemlin-Open-Source-Loves-Microsoft.webm [18:33] schestowitz-TR open source loves putin is code for "keep sending me money, putin" [18:33] psydruid XRevan86, maybe there is a way to reach out to the Slavic department at some Russian (or global) university [18:33] schestowitz-TR LF will collapse one day, like all things, but it can take a few years more [18:33] schestowitz-TR their lack of IRS filings is a sign of something not happening right [18:33] schestowitz-TR the CFO of LF left that year, too [18:34] schestowitz-TR but the new CFO did release IRS filing to an offshoot of LF [18:34] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/ [18:34] TR Bot Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | Techrights [18:34] XRevan86 psydruid: It's not like I have any use for this information to bother people :) [18:34] matey turns out zima means winter [18:34] psydruid yes [18:34] XRevan86 psydruid: The stress thing is likely to just be a subset of the broader phenomenon. [18:34] psydruid zemestan in Persian [18:35] TR News Free and open source level editor LDtk 1.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/free-and-open-source-level-designer-ldtk-10-is-out-now/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [18:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/free-and-open-source-level-designer-ldtk-10-is-out-now/ [18:35] TR Bot and open source level editor LDtk 1.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux [18:35] matey they spent 38 million dollars (in 1990s dollars) on the most dumbfuck adverts ever conceived [18:35] psydruid himalaya -> abode in the cold [18:35] schestowitz-TR psydruid: name original does not matter much [18:35] psydruid winter abode [18:35] matey adobe = left in the cold [18:35] schestowitz-TR I just saw it in passing [18:35] schestowitz-TR alleged russian roots [18:35] schestowitz-TR but that's not what I was after [18:35] schestowitz-TR I tried to get his grandpa's name [18:35] schestowitz-TR and thought I had found it [18:36] schestowitz-TR but nothing backs his claims about Cray [18:36] schestowitz-TR so he partly made it up [18:36] SomeH4x0r what is cPanel CA? I'm suspicious about it [18:36] schestowitz-TR to make him look like he had CS pedigree [18:36] schestowitz-TR he fakes it [18:36] schestowitz-TR in an interview with spamnil [18:36] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: proprietary software [18:36] *psydruid knows an Indian chef with a CS degree in Dublin [18:37] schestowitz-TR cpanel became buddies with canonical this year [18:37] SomeH4x0r I don't care about licenses tbh, just wondering if they are MITM [18:37] schestowitz-TR LF is half imposters [18:37] schestowitz-TR they have some geeks, but not many [18:37] MinceR afaik torvalds was a dick to people who deserved it [18:37] MinceR zemlin isn't [18:37] schestowitz-TR MinceR: mostly [18:37] schestowitz-TR cannot put a number on it [18:38] schestowitz-TR MinceR: it's 1) cultural and 2) arguably good [18:38] AdmFubar help help the paranoids are after me https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-search-ai-mum-help [18:38] TR Bot search AI uses MUM to flag queries for help - Protocol [18:38] schestowitz-TR HEY HI [18:38] schestowitz-TR HELP, IMA GETTING OUTTA THIS GULAG [18:39] schestowitz-TR they keep trying to market spying as [18:39] schestowitz-TR 1) fitness [18:39] schestowitz-TR 2) health [18:39] schestowitz-TR 3)safety [18:39] MinceR https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/03/23/scabrous [18:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: penny-arcade.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/03/23/scabrous [18:39] TR Bot Scabrous - Penny Arcade [18:39] schestowitz-TR I took note of it years prior to COVID [18:39] schestowitz-TR they try to glorify spying as a personal benefit [18:39] schestowitz-TR "you arer missing out!!" [18:39] schestowitz-TR "google doesn't have a microphone and gps coords on you!!" [18:39] schestowitz-TR "how can they save you???" [18:39] psydruid I always thought computers would and should be integrated into our personal lives [18:40] *CrystalMath (~coderain@mdq92rkmjqcqs.irc) has joined #techrights [18:40] schestowitz-TR computer are OK [18:40] schestowitz-TR wqith consent and understanding [18:40] psydruid but not that those tech companies would use those against their buyers [18:40] schestowitz-TR they enocourage implied and non-consent [18:40] schestowitz-TR based on misconception [18:40] psydruid why would you ever do that? [18:40] psydruid I got a fitbit from my workplace once [18:40] schestowitz-TR like the 'ankle bracelet' called apple watch [18:40] psydruid I left it in my drawer and never used it [18:41] schestowitz-TR it's not a gift [18:41] schestowitz-TR well, not for you anyway [18:41] psydruid it's a trojan horse [18:41] schestowitz-TR employers love giving 'free' phones [18:41] schestowitz-TR they become devices that let them pester you at home [18:41] schestowitz-TR and you cannot complain [18:41] matey turns out it wasnt even a wine cooler [18:41] schestowitz-TR it's a 'gift' after all [18:41] schestowitz-TR a torjan gift [18:41] XRevan86 psydruid: How is stress in Polish by the way? Is it as complicated as in its Eastern counterparts or is there some kind of intuitive system that people follow without thinking and always succeed? [18:41] matey it was a clear beer that they wanted to AVOID looking like a wine cooler [18:41] matey and people (like jim zemlin) still drink it-- in japab [18:41] matey japan [18:42] matey (while speaking japanese) [18:42] schestowitz-TR he never spoke japanese, even in japan [18:42] schestowitz-TR I checked [18:42] schestowitz-TR if he spoke nippon, he's say something in the japan event [18:42] schestowitz-TR but nothing [18:42] schestowitz-TR even suckerfuck faked knowing mandarin [18:42] schestowitz-TR by memorising a bunch of nonsense [18:43] schestowitz-TR so that he and fieve eyes (japan not in there yet) can spy on china, too [18:43] schestowitz-TR it didn't work [18:43] schestowitz-TR china doesn't want his trojan horse [18:43] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IWWwM2wwMww [18:43] TR Bot The Vapors - Turning Japanese - Invidious [18:44] schestowitz-TR zemlin knows japanese like rms knows indonesian [18:44] schestowitz-TR and like i know some languages [18:44] schestowitz-TR that i don't really know [18:44] psydruid XRevan86, I haven't progressed with my Polish from years ago, but I don't think it's as complicated as in the Eastern counterparts. From what I know stress is usually on the penultimate syllable, if there are 2 or more syllables [18:44] schestowitz-TR or forgot [18:44] matey that guy looks like jimmy fallon as a standin for mike myers as dieter from sprockets [18:46] matey zemlin knows japanese like rms knows indonesian <- or portuguese :( [18:47] TR News How proprietary socialcontrolmedia shaping the future of Pepper&Carrot - David Revoy https://www.davidrevoy.com/article904/how-proprietary-social-medias-are-shaping-the-future-of-peppercarrot Source: davidrevoy [18:47] TR Bot How proprietary social-medias are shaping the future of Pepper&Carrot - David Revoy [18:47] *alextee (~alextee@uwuysj3kprbhs.irc) has joined #techrights [18:48] schestowitz-TR matey: keep the bottle away from james [18:48] psydruid he speaks Spanish, though [18:48] psydruid and Russian? [18:48] matey yes, he speaks spanish [18:48] schestowitz-TR i imagine rms has at least one parent from eastern europe [18:49] matey ancestor at least [18:49] schestowitz-TR yes, one who spoke that at home [18:49] schestowitz-TR like lithuanian or something [18:49] schestowitz-TR lippman [18:49] matey he likes bulgarian folk dancing, its his favourite [18:50] schestowitz-TR bulgarian, eh? [18:50] schestowitz-TR my material grandparents both born there [18:51] schestowitz-TR *maternal [18:52] TR News Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163154 [18:52] TR Bot Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:54] TR News You cannot learn Qt. You can learn the APIs, but Qt is again proprietary software, so you cannot learn how it works. https://www.qt.io/blog/how-to-learn-qt [18:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/how-to-learn-qt [18:54] TR Bot How to learn Qt? [18:54] matey the free software song is based on "sadi moma" a classic bulgarian folk tune [18:54] schestowitz-TR i thought he likes listening to music from indonesia [18:54] schestowitz-TR when he was young [18:55] matey /me giggles at encyclopedia dramaatica [18:55] matey they said gnu stands for "gnus not usable" [18:55] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163155 [18:55] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:55] schestowitz-TR ha [18:56] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C6r6fG4k40 [18:56] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7C6r6fG4k40 [18:56] TR Bot yewtu.be | Soulja Boy crank dat, MIT style - Invidious [18:57] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C6r6fG4k40 [18:57] matey [18:57] XRevan86 Dimitry Potapenko, an economist, says that the reason Putin's put this ultimatum is to attempt to nullify the contracts and force gas buyers to make a new one. [18:58] TR News "Smart" things https://www.maketecheasier.com/verizon-spam-texts-from-their-own-numbers/ [18:58] TR Bot Verizon Customers Getting Spam Texts from Their Own Numbers - Make Tech Easier [18:58] XRevan86 The reason being is that the gas on the market is *a lot* more expensive than what Europe pays. [18:58] matey jeni.com says stallman has a father named daniel j and a brother named adam s stallman [18:58] matey ive never heard of adam stallman [18:58] XRevan86 Actually ^ activelow, this is important. [18:58] schestowitz-TR matey: the pizza is on the way [18:58] TR News Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.5 beta 3 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-5-beta-3 Source: godotengine [18:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-5-beta-3 [18:58] TR Bot Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.5 beta 3 [18:59] matey oh dear [18:59] matey it says maurice lippman is his stepfather [18:59] schestowitz-TR ah, ok [18:59] matey this is a geneology website [18:59] schestowitz-TR I know he was raised by his mom [18:59] schestowitz-TR that book about him [18:59] schestowitz-TR to which she supplied a photo of him as a pupil ● Mar 30 [19:00] schestowitz-TR adam s stallman [19:00] schestowitz-TR another hacker [19:00] matey Adam Stallman - Senior Software Engineer - International Business Machines [19:00] matey you dont suppose... [19:00] schestowitz-TR but bad initials [19:00] matey yes not the best [19:00] schestowitz-TR Kicks adam s stallman [19:01] XRevan86 matey: What do ye think about that idea? [19:01] schestowitz-TR maybe Adam LOVES systemd [19:01] schestowitz-TR "100% of the time" [19:01] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [19:01] XRevan86 Maybe activelow had a point when he said that Russia is selling gas crazy cheap. Maybe that's the problem. [19:01] schestowitz-TR but check the age [19:01] matey matey: What do ye think about that idea <- should i scroll up? [19:01] schestowitz-TR he'd have to be like retirement age [19:01] XRevan86 And Putin tried to cause a force major, and cause the long-term contract to fall apart. [19:02] matey i mean i thought the video psydroid showed was plausible enough [19:02] schestowitz-TR IBM: RMS needs to step down. We need more diversity [19:02] schestowitz-TR IBM: here, now let ASS take charge [19:03] XRevan86 matey: Regarding Putin's statement on that gas should be sold for rubles. [19:03] activelow XRevan86: i think the demand Russia accounts foreign trade with Rubles at their central bank is an absolutely legitimate demand [19:03] schestowitz-TR IBM <3 ASS ASS [19:03] schestowitz-TR (SS [19:03] matey i dont believe adam stallman is with us anymore Adam S. Stallman: Birthdate: estimated between 1929 and 1985 : Death: Immediate Family: Son of Daniel J. Stallman and Private Brother of Richard Matthew Stallman [19:03] XRevan86 activelow: It already fell apart. [19:04] XRevan86 activelow: But it's likely that the attempt was to make gas more expensive for Europe. [19:04] XRevan86 Ten times. [19:04] activelow too this is important to fight corruption; since currently Russia/Putin are accused of expensive oil/gas/energy supplies (an EU propaganda lie), when instead Russia is selling rather cheap, and it is Euro and USD cheating with excess taxation and reseller-margins [19:04] schestowitz-TR so it sounds like it's really the sibling [19:05] schestowitz-TR if he passed away, we need to change subject [19:05] XRevan86 Haven't heard anyone say that Russia's gas is expensive. [19:05] schestowitz-TR in respect [19:05] SomeH4x0r dead don't see chats [19:05] SomeH4x0r *the dead [19:05] activelow btw. this was the spiritual root of Putin and Medvedev, to fight corruption (within Russia), now this fight is fought elsewhere too [19:05] schestowitz-TR but it hurts relatives [19:05] schestowitz-TR and as far as e know he did nothing wrong [19:05] SomeH4x0r don't invite relatives here [19:06] schestowitz-TR and IBM said Hitler did nothing wrong [19:06] XRevan86 activelow: "this was the spiritual root of Putin and Medvedev, to fight corruption (within Russia)" <- They ARE the corruption. [19:06] XRevan86 activelow: Ye fell for a populist stunt. An outdated one at that! [19:06] activelow XRevan86: maybe [19:06] matey this is all wrong [19:06] matey "Alice married Maurice Lippman in 1948, at age 12." [19:06] matey what? no [19:06] XRevan86 They no longer play in anti-corruption, not a thing. [19:06] activelow nonetheless it isn't surprising, those corrupt criminals in German government and EU don't appreciate this, their corruption and criminal activity is addressed now [19:07] matey thats got to be a typo [19:07] schestowitz-TR maybe engaged? [19:07] matey https://www.myheritage.com/names/alice_lippman [19:07] TR Bot NO TITLE [19:07] schestowitz-TR like ina religious context? [19:07] matey i have no idea, im sure its not accurate [19:07] matey it also said that she died in 2017 at age 81 [19:08] matey that means she would be 86 if still around [19:08] schestowitz-TR ah, that would be strange... [19:08] schestowitz-TR unless she had rms when she was very young [19:08] matey and a teenage mother to rms [19:08] matey well its not physically impossible [19:08] matey married at age 12 was not legal even in 1948 [19:08] matey thats got to be a typo [19:09] matey i posted the url (it was the first hit in a search) so you see where i got it from [19:09] activelow recently they boasted again about their solar panels and wind mill (subsidy fraud), which require billions of tons of steel, coal and energy to produce, supplied from... a voila... Russia/Ukraine [19:10] schestowitz-TR sher married TWO people aged 12? [19:10] activelow that's why solar industry in germany was whining recently, about lack of supply of raw materials to produce those panels [19:10] activelow and i bet, if sanctions hit, the dozen of tons of steel required for a wind turbine cannot be produced anymore either, without russian gas/coal/oil/energy [19:10] schestowitz-TR matey: could be data mix-up [19:10] matey sher married TWO people aged 12? <- maybe some trolls have submitted false geneological data [19:10] schestowitz-TR " [19:10] schestowitz-TR Alice Lippman (born Unknown Stallman), 1936 - 2017 [19:10] schestowitz-TR Alice Lippman was born in 1936. [19:11] schestowitz-TR Alice married Daniel J Stallman in 1948, at age 12. [19:11] schestowitz-TR Alice then married Maurice Lippman in 1948, at age 12. [19:11] schestowitz-TR Alice passed away in 2017, at age 81. [19:11] schestowitz-TR " [19:11] schestowitz-TR that would help discredit, yes [19:11] matey maybe (not a joke) the people who hacked his website in 2019 also submitted false geneological data [19:11] matey that would be a low blow [19:11] schestowitz-TR don't preclude as possibility [19:11] matey i just found this a few minutes ago by the way [19:12] schestowitz-TR try to cross-correlate [19:12] matey including that he had a brother [19:12] schestowitz-TR with another source [19:12] matey well yes, but you cant cross correlate until you find the first source [19:12] matey and i JUST found this minutes ago [19:12] schestowitz-TR https://www.myheritage.com/names/alice_lippman# [19:12] TR Bot NO TITLE [19:12] matey i was instantly sceptical of it [19:13] matey it reeks of error [19:13] matey i would sooner believe she was 22 and someone has fat fingers [19:14] matey im not throwing out the malicious data sent in theory (its more remote but im keeping it for now) [19:14] schestowitz-TR it's hard to raised a genius kid or kids at this age [19:14] schestowitz-TR and in these times [19:14] matey its never easy to raise a gifted kid or to grow up as one [19:14] matey schools are not made for them [19:15] matey i mean most schools are not [19:15] matey they dont know what to do with them [19:15] matey "give them more work i guess" [19:15] matey "hes been able to do this since he was 6" "okay, well he can do twice as much of it" [19:15] matey "youre not teaching him anything though" [19:15] matey "well, he has to do something" [19:16] matey this is literally how it works [19:17] matey they dont like to skip people because socially its bad [19:17] TR News systemd-sysupdate?????????????? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-251-rc1 [19:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-251-rc1 [19:17] TR Bot 251-rc1 Released With Experimental systemd-sysupdate Tool - Phoronix [19:17] schestowitz "- A new component "systemd-sysupdate" has been added that automatically discovers / downloads / installs A/B style updates for the host installation itself or container images / portable service images. Systemd-sysupdate is currently considered experimental. This OS updating tool has been worked on by Red Hat / systemd developers going back to last summer. " [19:17] matey plus if youre ahead in some things-- not necessarily everything [19:17] schestowitz systemd is just an init system [19:17] schestowitz don't panic [19:17] matey Systemd-sysupdate is currently considered experimental <- the whole bloody thing is experimental [19:17] schestowitz me remembers when system updates updated init systemd [19:18] schestowitz not the other way around [19:18] matey gnu/linux is an init system and rust is one of its kernels [19:18] matey anyway, mincer tried to tell you so [19:18] matey /me didnt even know until years later [19:19] matey its not an init system, its a (anti)social experiment [19:19] schestowitz-TR anti-system-systemd [19:19] schestowitz-TR ASS [19:21] matey advanced rust systemd enhancements [19:22] matey the reason theyre redoing everything in a single c project [19:22] matey is so they can translate it to rust once its "stable" [19:22] matey linux and systemd will be redone in rust at the same time [19:22] matey after they merge into the same codebase [19:22] matey first comes linuxd, then linuxd will be rewritten in rust [19:23] matey then rust will be reimplemented in r# [19:23] matey then the internet (the infrastructure itself) will suicide in an attempt to save mankind [19:23] matey or something like that [19:23] matey throw in some "steel birds" for the hell of it [19:23] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:24] schestowitz-TR the warning is in the name [19:24] schestowitz-TR it will rust [19:24] schestowitz-TR terrible name for a project if you ask me [19:24] schestowitz-TR it's like calling your framework "rot" [19:24] schestowitz-TR or "decay" [19:24] schestowitz-TR interview question: can you decay? [19:25] activelow following the mailing list thread further: http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/aboriginal-landley.net/2016-May/002567.html [19:25] TR Bot [Aboriginal] Possibly winding down the project. [19:26] activelow aboriginal linux developer too noticed issues with cmake written in c++, python creeping into as build dependency, yet hasn't arrived at the glory of C11 [19:27] activelow as far as a toolchain was a concern for free software, TinyCC seems the last red line of defense [19:28] activelow in parallel Landley was involved with j-core too, and the gcc toolchain for it broken 5 years ago; tcc doesn't support j-core at all [19:29] schestowitz-TR "yes, I can as a matter of fact I've decayed for 15 years already" [19:29] activelow from a technical standpoint that's noteworthy, projects most concerned with freedom (hardware, software, toolchain), express some hostility towards FSF [19:29] activelow and the toolchain and bootstrapping issue is a one which affects _all_ supposedly free software [19:30] schestowitz-TR [14:41] "This article covers the highlights of the C++ standardization proposals before the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) committee's Core and Evolution Working Groups last year. Read on to find out what's coming in C++23." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/29/c-standardization-core-language-progress-2021 [19:30] TR Bot C++ standardization (core language) progress in 2021 | Red Hat Developer [19:30] schestowitz-TR also new: [19:30] schestowitz-TR [20:23] "Believe it or not, not everything is based on C. There are current, shipping, commercial OSes written before C was invented, and now others in both newer and older languages that don't involve C at any level or layer." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/ [19:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/ [19:30] TR Bot The weird world of non-C operating systems The Register [19:31] schestowitz-TR activelow: so C is freedom [19:31] schestowitz-TR and other stuff is not? [19:31] activelow it is a cornerstone of proof, to see which build-time dependencies are required for the toolchain [19:31] schestowitz-TR is freedom about low vs high level? [19:31] schestowitz-TR I could do ASM and did a lot of C [19:32] schestowitz-TR C is just works or tokens [19:32] schestowitz-TR ASM is binary/bits [19:32] schestowitz-TR the machines are gates [19:32] schestowitz-TR proof of concept at what level? [19:32] schestowitz-TR can you trust the asm? [19:32] schestowitz-TR without designing the circuits? [19:33] activelow no, and no, and... no. [19:33] schestowitz-TR then, if you used cad to design the circuit [19:33] schestowitz-TR you then have other things to worry about [19:33] schestowitz-TR both the cad and the fabs [19:33] activelow that's why aboriginal linux and j-core invested into a free hardware option for linux, which was their turtle board [19:33] schestowitz-TR i see... [19:34] schestowitz-TR how many transistors in it? [19:34] activelow and then, the toolchain was bricked [19:34] schestowitz-TR for proof of concept it should be just thouands [19:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@k5ghkuun6w7re.irc) has joined #techrights [19:35] schestowitz-TR you can compensate with high clocking speed [19:35] schestowitz-TR today's science can clock it fast [19:35] DaemonFC Be careful what you standardize. It will probably be in use a long time after it makes sense. [19:35] schestowitz-TR without you worrying about what you send the data into [19:35] schestowitz-TR risc-v keeps is simple and still it can run proper programs [19:35] schestowitz-TR and smaller teams can adopt it [19:35] schestowitz-TR in bulk [19:35] activelow risc-v isn't supported by any legacy toolchain or kernel version i am aware of [19:36] schestowitz-TR right [19:36] DaemonFC Vendor crap is going to kill risc-v. [19:36] DaemonFC It's already made dealing with arm nearly impossible. [19:36] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: it is just the reference [19:36] schestowitz-TR intel sank money into ikt [19:36] activelow if you jump onto the risc-v wagon, then you're locked into recent kernel versions and toolchains, which have issues; and imo, aren't acceptable. [19:36] schestowitz-TR maybe to SINK it [19:37] DaemonFC One of those government programs is offering poor people cheap computers. [19:37] DaemonFC Someone I know bought one and it came with Windows 11 on a low end Pentium with 4 GB of RAM and 64 GB eMMC. [19:37] schestowitz-TR in most places they call them "smartphones", DaemonFC [19:37] DaemonFC I removed it and put GalliumOS on it instead. [19:37] schestowitz-TR government love those [19:37] schestowitz-TR "Stalin's dream" [19:38] schestowitz-TR your gov. become the creepy b/f [19:38] DaemonFC I was surprised Windows 11 was so easy to kill. [19:38] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: microsoft was too [19:38] schestowitz-TR one bad system update [19:38] schestowitz-TR and ZAP! [19:39] schestowitz-TR "wow, josh!" [19:39] schestowitz-TR microsoft statemennt would mince words [19:39] schestowitz-TR unlike MinceR [19:39] schestowitz-TR "our quality assurance team... something... kindly ask users to wait..." [19:40] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: btw, speaking of creepy b/f [19:40] MinceR https://nitter.eu/pic/media%2FEVLRDoRUEAEBFmr.jpg%3Fname%3Dorig [19:40] schestowitz-TR tell mandy the apple watch is called after its function [19:40] schestowitz-TR it watches him [19:40] DaemonFC Including heart functions. [19:40] schestowitz-TR not parental watching [19:40] schestowitz-TR more like creepy uncle [19:40] DaemonFC It panics people and sends them to the ER and the watch is often wrong. [19:41] schestowitz-TR just to make sure he's not a pedo [19:41] DaemonFC So they just get a YUUUUUGE hospital bill for no reason. [19:41] schestowitz-TR they need a REAL doctor [19:41] DaemonFC The number one cause of heart attacks and stroke in the United States is blood pressure. [19:41] schestowitz-TR not steve "I'll take nuts to cure cancer" jobs [19:41] DaemonFC Save your crApple Watch money and go to the damned doctor. [19:41] DaemonFC And get your blood pressure under control. [19:42] schestowitz-TR yeah [19:42] DaemonFC And you probably won't blow out your heart. [19:42] schestowitz-TR and wallet [19:42] schestowitz-TR watches cannot accurately measure it [19:42] schestowitz-TR it's borderline pseudoscience [19:42] schestowitz-TR also, mandy is too young for that [19:42] DaemonFC Stroke damage is often cumulative, as is heart damage. [19:43] DaemonFC I mean, you have a heart attack and your heart cells are dying the entire time. [19:43] DaemonFC You don't just get over that. [19:43] DaemonFC I wish more doctors would treat hypertension aggressively. [19:43] schestowitz-TR shades of covid19 [19:43] schestowitz-TR stay the F*(!) away fromcovid [19:43] schestowitz-TR my colleagues get sick over and over again [19:43] schestowitz-TR it's not getting better [19:43] schestowitz-TR it batters them [19:44] DaemonFC Yeah, it's a battering ram. [19:44] schestowitz-TR we have 19 home testing kits [19:44] DaemonFC It's not just one and done. [19:44] schestowitz-TR back to apple watch [19:44] schestowitz-TR maybe if I saw one I'd write about it [19:44] schestowitz-TR OI try never to write about stuff that I do not understand fully [19:44] schestowitz-TR from what I saw, these accessories are fashion and class statements [19:44] schestowitz-TR "|doctor apple" [19:45] schestowitz-TR "an apple watch a day" [19:45] schestowitz-TR "I have a very expensive doctor" [19:45] DaemonFC Oh, people I know of have had COVID 4 times becauset they take no precaution. [19:45] DaemonFC And you know, avoiding it totally may not be possible, but getting it once is better than four times! [19:46] DaemonFC Mom is still on the denial bandwagon where "Most of the time it isn't serious.". [19:46] TR News LoongArch in GCC https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=commit&s=LoongArch [19:46] TR Bot Git - gcc.git/search [19:46] DaemonFC It's like your car. Most cars don't lose their suspension the first time they hit a bad pothole. [19:46] TR News Mesa 22.0.1 Release Notes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163156 [19:46] TR Bot Mesa 22.0.1 Release Notes | Tux Machines [19:46] DaemonFC Keep doing it and you'll ruin your car. [19:47] schestowitz-TR today's cars ruin themselves fast [19:47] DaemonFC The strategy now is as long as there are hospital beds for COVID patients, they don't really care. [19:47] schestowitz-TR and are getting more expensive to repair [19:47] DaemonFC today's cars ruin themselves fast [19:47] schestowitz-TR previously I gave the example of electirc winmdows [19:47] DaemonFC Yes, mom and Mandy don't get why I have my eye on a Honda Accord base model. [19:47] schestowitz-TR you cannot fix these with a screwdriver [19:47] schestowitz-TR I remember as a kid [19:47] schestowitz-TR and then it become impossible to get mechanical windows [19:47] schestowitz-TR *became [19:48] DaemonFC I said, "I need something reliable that's possible to repair without much specialized knowledge, tools, and software, that only a dealer will have." [19:48] DaemonFC "You get more stuff you can't easily maintain the more expensive the car is.". [19:48] schestowitz-TR it's also designed like bikes [19:48] schestowitz-TR anyone can maintain bikes [19:48] schestowitz-TR they are made of pertinent simple components [19:48] schestowitz-TR to make it easy to fix with uniform set of tools [19:49] schestowitz-TR last month I went to a bike shop and it's all electric [19:49] schestowitz-TR they don't even reveal the wiring and brakes [19:49] schestowitz-TR so I reckon a lot of their income is repairs [19:49] schestowitz-TR it's very proprietary [19:49] schestowitz-TR I had a flat tire, they hardly charged me anything for the inner tube [19:50] schestowitz-TR cars are the same now [19:50] schestowitz-TR you can a car that looks the same [19:50] schestowitz-TR but then under the skin it's all chips [19:50] schestowitz-TR you cannot repair chips [19:50] schestowitz-TR and after 10 years good luck getting compatible replacements [19:50] schestowitz-TR you can still drive cars from the 80s [19:50] schestowitz-TR today's 2022 models won't run in 2050+ [19:51] schestowitz-TR (if humans get that far) [19:51] schestowitz-TR "what the fork is this car?" [19:51] schestowitz-TR "it's a tesla" [19:51] schestowitz-TR "the scientist?" [19:52] schestowitz-TR "no, it's some company that lasted some years, pretended to be competitive" [19:52] schestowitz-TR " it was run by a psychopathic charlatan who killed himself with OD" [19:53] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: my mom's microwave is still going [19:53] schestowitz-TR 30+ years [19:53] schestowitz-TR my stereo is from 1994 [19:53] schestowitz-TR PDA 2002 [19:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:53] schestowitz-TR Kettle 2021 [19:53] schestowitz-TR RIP [19:53] schestowitz-TR it was a GOOD brand too [19:53] schestowitz-TR not the cheapest [19:55] TR News Interesting. Will Intel ever move away from Microsoft GitHub and BACK to GitLab? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SVT-AV1-1.0-rc1 [19:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SVT-AV1-1.0-rc1 [19:55] TR Bot Preparing For SVT-AV1 1.0 Video Encoder With More AVX2 Optimizations - Phoronix [19:55] TR News [GIT PULL for v5.18-rc1] media updates - Mauro Carvalho Chehab https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220322101406.459e2950@coco.lan/ Source: linux | kernel [19:55] TR Bot [GIT PULL for v5.18-rc1] media updates - Mauro Carvalho Chehab [19:56] TR News Microbell is posting marketing catalogues for Intel again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-arc-a3&num=1 Mobile with wattage like THAT? [19:56] TR Bot Introduces The Arc A-Series Mobile Graphics - Phoronix [19:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-arc-a3&num=1 [19:57] TR News [PATCH v2 0/4] Export PSP security attributes - Mario Limonciello https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220329164117.1449-1-mario.limonciello@amd.com/ amd should just remove this malware from ALL chips. It's NOT a security feature. it is the very opposite [19:57] TR Bot [PATCH v2 0/4] Export PSP security attributes - Mario Limonciello [19:59] TR News Proprietary software is based on lies https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/ftc_tax_intuit/ [19:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/ftc_tax_intuit/ [19:59] TR Bot FTC sues Intuit, claims 'free' TurboTax can be deceptive The Register ● Mar 30 [20:01] TR News The Register should have clarified this is Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/verblecon_malware_cryptomining/ [20:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/verblecon_malware_cryptomining/ [20:01] TR Bot Verblecon malware used in illicit cryptomining The Register [20:06] TR News " After 72 straight hours of researching this spork, taking only a small series of 15-minute naps amid my research, Im back with my report: Here are all the weird combination utensils I could find." https://tedium.co/2022/03/30/weird-utensil-history/ [20:06] TR Bot 11 Weird Utensils You Probably Arent Using [20:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/03/30/weird-utensil-history/ [20:08] TR News Debian selling Web site space (even for Microsoft... for several years in a row) https://bits.debian.org/2022/03/debconf22-lenovo-platinum.html [20:08] TR Bot Lenovo Platinum Sponsor of DebConf22 - Bits from Debian [20:09] TR News He shilled CLearLinux -- a distro nobody used and we hardly hear about anymore -- so why not marketing cruft for another Intel "PRODUCT"? https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2022/03/30/intel-arc-invades-the-dedicated-gpu-market-with-truly-exciting-features/ [20:09] TR Bot Intel ARC Crashes The Dedicated GPU Party With Truly Exciting Features [20:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2022/03/30/intel-arc-invades-the-dedicated-gpu-market-with-truly-exciting-features/ [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 127.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 238.18 [20:15] TR News Links 30/03/2022: GNUnet 0.16.3, GParted Live 1.4.0-1, and Mesa 22.0.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/mesa-22-0-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/mesa-22-0-1/ [20:15] TR Bot Links 30/03/2022: GNUnet 0.16.3, GParted Live 1.4.0-1, and Mesa 22.0.1 | Techrights [20:16] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163157 [20:16] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [20:22] TR News Tech skill planning for the greedy and lazy - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ofdo0fONe8A Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [20:22] TR Bot Tech skill planning for the greedy and lazy - Invidious [20:23] TR News "A Quick overview of KDE neon 20220210." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tc31p7DzS7I excellent distro of GNU/Linux [20:23] TR Bot KDE neon 20220210 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious [20:24] TR News "We just watched Revolution OS before the show, so we reflect on the audacity of their vision and the new revolution we see brewing." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148057/revolution-in-review-coder-radio-459/ [20:24] TR Bot Revolution in Review | Coder Radio 459 | Jupiter Broadcasting [20:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148057/revolution-in-review-coder-radio-459/ [20:25] TR News "Taiwan-based research firm TrendForce" = marketing disguised as 'science'? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/aws_arm_servers_datacenters/ [20:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/aws_arm_servers_datacenters/ [20:25] TR Bot AWS to fuel Arm to '22% server penetration rate' by 2025 The Register [20:26] TR News Grifting at taxpayers' expense (as if US taxpayers can pay back) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/tsmc_samsung_chip_subsidies/ [20:26] TR Bot TSMC, Samsung want share of $52b US chip subsidies The Register [20:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/tsmc_samsung_chip_subsidies/ [20:26] TR News "SciTE is an easy-to-use text editor that has many features for programming. Its footprint size and functionality make it perfect for installing on any system, even if you dont have experience with Scintilla or GTK." https://lateweb.info/easy-way-to-install-scite-on-ubuntu-21-04-lts/?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=easy-way-to-install-scite-on-ubuntu-21-04-lts [20:26] TR Bot Easy Way To Install SciTE on Ubuntu 21.04 LTS [20:28] TR News Spinning price hikes as "rebrand" https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/rosehosting-rebrand-new-website-pricing-structure/ [20:28] TR Bot New Website, New Pricing Structure & Re-Brand [20:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: rosehosting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/rosehosting-rebrand-new-website-pricing-structure/ [20:30] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22033059 [20:30] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.ipg.pw/sandcats/safariyokohama-20210415-0039.jpg created on 2022-03-30 16:24:26.861346 [20:31] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@k5ghkuun6w7re.irc) has joined #techrights [20:31] DaemonFC I get more Omaha Steaks ads. "If you think it looks good, wait until you taste it.". [20:32] schestowitz-TR the cows? [20:32] TR News March 30, 2022: Fending off attacks on connectivity in Ukraine, and keeping anti-war voices in Russia and Belarus online https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [20:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [20:32] TR Bot Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now [20:33] DaemonFC Car Salesman (Vacation): If you think you hate it now, wait until you drive it! [20:33] TR News [Only NSApple is allowed to do it] Apple Watch in Tire Allegedly Used to Track Ex-Girlfriend https://gizmodo.com/an-angry-stalker-used-an-apple-watch-wrapped-around-his-1848714771 Source: gizmodo [20:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/an-angry-stalker-used-an-apple-watch-wrapped-around-his-1848714771 [20:33] TR Bot Apple Watch in Tire Allegedly Used to Track Ex-Girlfriend [20:34] TR News No, Bruce Schneier, these are not "malicious uses"; these are the uses https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/stalking-with-an-apple-watch.html [20:34] TR Bot with an Apple Watch - Schneier on Security [20:35] TR News Looming curbs on Tunisian civil society must be stopped - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/tunisia-civil-society/ Source: accessnow [20:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/tunisia-civil-society/ [20:35] TR Bot Looming curbs on Tunisian civil society must be stopped - Access Now [20:36] TR News proprietary software Chrome has "vulnerabilities that an attacker could exploit to take control of an affected system" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/30/google-releases-security-updates-chrome [20:36] TR Bot Google Releases Security Updates for Chrome | CISA [20:39] TR News "They don't list authoritarianism as a protected attribute but it is clearly the primary one intended in the "not limited to" qualification." https://lwn.net/Articles/889692/ [20:39] TR Bot adopts a new code of conduct [LWN.net] [20:41] TR News "And yet the CoC's list of protected attributes includes a number of items one *does* have control over: education, immigration status, level of experience, personal appearance, religion, veteran status (unless conscripted), etc. Personally I do not see enough of a difference between "political affiliation" and "religion" to justify protecting one and not the other." https://lwn.net/Articles/889692/ [20:42] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-area-mother-among-20-killed-after-massacre-at-cock-fight-in-mexico-16-year-old-sister-wounded/ [20:42] TR Bot Chicago area mother among 20 killed after massacre at cock fight in Mexico; 16-year-old sister critical | WGN-TV [20:42] DaemonFC So they were there to watch and promote the vicious abuse of animals, and we're going to be sorry they died? [20:43] DaemonFC Only in Chicago. [20:43] DaemonFC How is gathering to watch chickens tear each other apart even entertaining? Sounds like we lost 20 psychopaths to me. [20:43] TR News Ubuntu on the spyHome(TM) https://ubuntu.com//blog/future-iot-home-automation [20:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/future-iot-home-automation [20:43] TR Bot Evolution of the Smart Home: Future Predictions [Part 3] | Ubuntu [20:45] schestowitz-TR is bull 'fighting' still legal in mexico? [20:45] DaemonFC Who knows? It's Mexico. I try not to pay attention. [20:45] MinceR who's going to tell the bull he's not allowed to do it? [20:45] DaemonFC It's bad enough that they've turned this city into a colony of Mexico and our government allows it. [20:46] DaemonFC They have the schools teaching in Spanish.....American schools teaching in Spanish. To people who should be deported. [20:46] schestowitz-TR MinceR: let it be [20:46] DaemonFC To people who the law says should be deported. [20:46] schestowitz-TR but the matador gets no weapons [20:47] schestowitz-TR then I'd watch [20:47] DaemonFC They're doing their best to make sure that as an American, you can no longer function in your own country without speaking a foreign language that some invaders brought with them. [20:47] DaemonFC I refuse to even try to speak it. [20:47] MinceR which foreign language, english? [20:47] DaemonFC Spanish [20:48] MinceR curious [20:48] schestowitz-TR MinceR: typical american stereotype [20:48] schestowitz-TR usians being rude and arrogant [20:48] schestowitz-TR and then surprised europeans dislike "yanks" [20:48] DaemonFC If people refuse to speak it to them or cooperate, then it will be more difficult for them to maintain their position. [20:48] DaemonFC This is like, you know, the French refusing to speak German under the Nazi occupation. [20:49] DaemonFC "We may die but we'll still be speaking French." [20:49] MinceR how well can you function in Shikaakwa if you only speak the Miami-Illinois language? [20:50] DaemonFC The cucks and crooks who run Illinois won't make English the official language of the state, like most of the states have. [20:50] TR News #HowTo Turn Your Old Laptop Into a Plex Media Server Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163158 [20:50] TR Bot How to Turn Your Old Laptop Into a Plex Media Server | Tux Machines [20:51] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: your only country to visit other than your own is mexico [20:51] schestowitz-TR maybe it's better for the US [20:51] schestowitz-TR as that otherwise stigmatises USians [20:52] TR News New malware. From Gulag. https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/chrome-browser-version-100-is-out-now-on-windows-mac-linux-android-and-ios-article-90544070 [20:52] TR Bot Chrome Browser version 100 is out now on Windows, Mac, Linux, Android and iOS [20:52] *techrights_guest|55 (~59beca19@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:52] *techrights_guest|55 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [20:53] TR News "linuxsecurity" likes linking to anti-Linux FUD from Microsoft-connected sites (bad optics) https://linuxsecurity.com/news/hackscracks/hive-ransomware-ports-its-linux-vmware-esxi-encryptor-to-rust [20:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: linuxsecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/news/hackscracks/hive-ransomware-ports-its-linux-vmware-esxi-encryptor-to-rust [20:53] TR Bot Hive ransomware ports its Linux VMware ESXi encryptor to Rust | Lin... [20:53] *mimorek (~mimorek@trhncgdin767n.irc) has joined #techrights [20:53] DaemonFC I don't plan to visit Mexico. They kidnap Americans and figure out what people will pay to get them back. [20:53] DaemonFC And if nobody pays, that's not good for you either. [20:54] DaemonFC They don't even protect their own citizens. [20:54] TR News "I worked on AMO for almost 4 years and created various libraries like pino-mozlog, pino-devtools or an ESLint plugin to name a few. These libraries have been created either to improve our developer experience or to fulfill some production requirements." https://williamdurand.fr/2022/03/29/some-non-production-tools-i-wrote/ [20:54] TR Bot Some non-production tools I wrote | William Durand [20:54] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: ok, so you never left your country [20:55] DaemonFC They give them pamphlets on how to get here and sign up for welfare and to say they're applying for refugee status. [20:55] DaemonFC Basically instructions for everything you want to know about how to abuse American laws. [20:55] schestowitz-TR anyway, taking shots at people who are multilingual isn't wise [20:55] schestowitz-TR and it's not a virtue, either [20:55] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: might shock you [20:55] DaemonFC My ex knows several language, including Russian and French. [20:56] schestowitz-TR but not many people want to be in the US [20:56] DaemonFC He won't learn Spanish. Same reason as me. [20:56] schestowitz-TR not even Americans [20:56] DaemonFC I'm not saying keep them out on account of race. [20:56] schestowitz-TR you're overstating the attractiveness of the US [20:56] DaemonFC I'm saying if all they plan to do is drain the system and refuse to speak the language, throw them back. [20:57] DaemonFC Plenty of good ones. Why do we have to take in the ones that are abusing our system? [20:57] schestowitz-TR US is NOT a race [20:57] schestowitz-TR US is a broad mix [20:57] DaemonFC They ought to change the law from "prove you won't use welfare for 10 years" to "you can't use it for 10 years", and then they know you won't. [20:57] schestowitz-TR maybe you also think asia and africa is a race [20:58] schestowitz-TR as if people in egypt are the same as Congolese [20:58] DaemonFC Paris is at least as dangerous as Chicago. [20:58] DaemonFC And it's because they're having an illegal immigration crisis too. [20:58] schestowitz-TR anyway, I'll be back later [20:58] schestowitz-TR you inserted some mexico story [20:58] DaemonFC It's not the French citizens that are robbing and raping and stabbing tourists. [20:58] schestowitz-TR to interject your hatred towards spanish speakers [20:59] schestowitz-TR later... [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.63 k/sec., IPFS upstream 103.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 353.31 [20:59] schestowitz-TR go to another channel, too [20:59] *psydruid has a lot of experience with the illegal immigration crisis in Biarritz [20:59] schestowitz-TR don't ruin this one [20:59] DaemonFC The globalists don't want anyone to have a national identity. ● Mar 30 [21:00] DaemonFC So they do everything they can to strip it away and ruin it. [21:00] *psydruid notes that Paris isn't all of France [21:00] DaemonFC They figure it'll be easier to officially knock over all of the borders and declare some sort of world state later if they can just ruin everything we have here first. [21:01] DaemonFC Then nobody will care anymore. [21:03] DaemonFC https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/30/23003168/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory-news-column-campaign-gop [21:04] TR Bot Facebook funded anti-TikTok campaign through GOP firm - The Verge [21:05] DaemonFC https://www.shiftphones.com/ [21:05] TR Bot - Nachhaltige Technologie aus Deutschland [21:05] DaemonFC About the only way you ever hear of "Linux" support from the manufacturer is if it's a European company, or Chinese. [21:06] DaemonFC There's a lot of collusion in the US to make damned sure nobody hears about anything but Windows, Mac, and Google at the store. [21:06] TR News Microsoft is faking it, just like Fakebookkk and other social control media (Twitter was also sued for it and lost) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ai_fake_linkedin_faces/ [21:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/28/ai_fake_linkedin_faces/ [21:06] TR Bot 1,000-plus AI-generated LinkedIn faces discovered in probe The Register [21:07] TR News MirageOS Announces Latest Release v4.0, dedicated to Lars Kurth Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163159 [21:07] TR Bot MirageOS Announces Latest Release v4.0, dedicated to Lars Kurth | Tux Machines [21:07] TR News Arm says devs need better multi-architecture support - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/arm_heterogeneous_compute/ Source: theregister [21:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/arm_heterogeneous_compute/ [21:07] TR Bot Arm says devs need better multi-architecture support The Register [21:13] TR News "deliberately misconfigured version of CosmosDB and ended up with complete unrestricted access to the accounts and the databases of thousands of Microsoft Azure customers." https://forallsecure.com/blog/the-hacker-mind-follow-the-rabbit http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/ [21:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: forallsecure.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forallsecure.com/blog/the-hacker-mind-follow-the-rabbit [21:13] TR Bot The Hacker Mind: Follow The Rabbit [21:13] TR Bot Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights [21:13] DaemonFC It looks like Canonical really changed Ubuntu's software installer to demote Debian packages. [21:13] DaemonFC Snap was failing so the natural thing is just force it on everyone. [21:14] DaemonFC It makes sense for them. It makes it pretty much impossible to fork Ubuntu because nobody else can use their package format. The server is proprietary and nobody knows how to make an alternative Snap package server. [21:15] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:15] DaemonFC -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.theregister.com | 1,000-plus AI-generated LinkedIn faces discovered in probe The Register [21:15] DaemonFC To defraud investors? [21:15] activelow XRevan86: Putin resided in Dresden, which i remember how my application documents were treated there [21:15] DaemonFC "Look at all these accounts!" [21:16] activelow which was, they scraped various projects from it, opened accounts at the federal investment bank there, and denied my application [21:16] *techrights_guest|82 (~d8c88654@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:17] *techrights_guest|82 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [21:17] activelow although, this wasn't the case in Dresden only; i had a similar experience with ministry of finance/germany (former finance minister Olaf Scholf, now chancellor) where i was invited [21:17] schestowitz-TR [21:15] "Look at all these accounts!" [21:17] schestowitz-TR typical [21:17] schestowitz-TR social control media in a nuitshell [21:17] schestowitz-TR fake being big [21:17] schestowitz-TR show off your bigness [21:17] schestowitz-TR and then people think they TOO need to create an account [21:17] schestowitz-TR FOMO [21:17] activelow XRevan86: insofar, i do not know what the level of corruption in Russia is, in germany it has become murderous already [21:18] schestowitz-TR germany is corrupt [21:18] schestowitz-TR see epo [21:18] schestowitz-TR the media is also very corrupt [21:18] schestowitz-TR so it helps hide the corruption [21:19] activelow well, application documents aren't subject to patent claims, nonetheless it was systematic fraud and corruption at work, such often i couldn't keep track of it anymore [21:19] TR News fabrics???? https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-and-western-digital-begin-far-reaching-collaboration-to-drive-standardization-of-next-generation-storage-technologies-for-broader-ecosystem-support-and-customer-adoption [21:19] TR Bot Samsung and Western Digital Begin Far-Reaching Collaboration To Drive Standardization of Next-generation Storage Technologies for Broader Ecosystem Support and Customer Adoption Samsung Global Newsroom [21:21] TR News Redmonk itself is NOT "Vendor-Neutral"; it's s shilling operation disguised as "analysts"; they even name the paymasters. https://redmonk.com/kholterhoff/2022/03/24/vendor-vs-vendor-neutral-certifications/ [21:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: redmonk.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://redmonk.com/kholterhoff/2022/03/24/vendor-vs-vendor-neutral-certifications/ [21:21] TR Bot Vendor vs Vendor-Neutral Certifications console.log() [21:23] DaemonFC There's what Germany says about the former East Germany and what they do in practice. [21:23] TR News Redmonk: "Disclosure: AWS, GitHub, Google (GKE), IBM, Microsoft (AKS), Salesforce, and VMware are RedMonk clients." That's MICROSOFT TWICE. How corrupt does Redmonk want to get? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33220 [21:23] TR Bot Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines [21:23] DaemonFC What they say is that the infrastructure was very bad and they pump trillions into fixing it, and they had to close down nuclear power plants because of safety standards. [21:23] activelow the ministry of finance is located in the most western part of Germany, Bonn [21:23] DaemonFC In fact, they treat it like they were at war, and they conquered them. [21:24] activelow so, the "business" habits don't differ that much, from Bonn to Moscow or wherever [21:24] DaemonFC Even in the US, federal money is just money they stole from the states and the state citizens to begin with. [21:25] DaemonFC They offer it back with conditions to corrupt and manipulate local governments. [21:25] activelow similar experience with some EU funded projects [21:26] activelow together with a melange of psychotic ideology [21:26] DaemonFC It's basically how leftists conspire to set state policy in places they can't win elections. [21:26] DaemonFC Authorize huge pots of "federal" money but only if conservatives change their laws first to one the Democrats like better. [21:27] DaemonFC Blue states have finally overplayed their hand. They're the ones losing the House seats and electoral votes now. [21:28] DaemonFC The needle is moving away from the Democrats in the electoral college. [21:28] activelow in germany the giant pots of public money can't be spent anymore, due to lack of substantial investments [21:28] *matey (~matey@4qc3338mpcm6n.irc) has joined #techrights [21:28] DaemonFC in germany the giant pots of public money can't be spent anymore, due to lack of substantial investments [21:28] DaemonFC Yes, brain drain and lack of people who want to do the work. [21:28] activelow such as, there is a gigantic pot for optical fibre, yet missing company to roll out [21:29] activelow DaemonFC: i cannot anymore, even if i wanted to, that's the other irony of it [21:29] DaemonFC Congress is still acting like they can make it so just by passing funding for something. [21:29] matey mincer daemonfc schestowitz schestowitz-tr and so it begins... https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/pull/61 [21:29] TR Bot one problem that bad_array_new_length is not thrown for certain by chumarshal1 Pull Request #61 gcc-mirror/gcc GitHub [21:29] activelow i had enough of it, 2005 already [21:29] MinceR gcc moving to MICROS~1 github? [21:29] matey (dfc because hes the one sure to get the quote) [21:29] matey moving? nah [21:29] *bnchs (~bnchs@4riw4ixn98d6q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:30] matey just getting a hug [21:30] matey "mirror" [21:30] matey mirror will pull requests in 2022 [21:30] MinceR :( [21:30] matey note that its still JUST incidental enough that theres not much gcc people can do about it [21:30] matey but the avalanche has already started [21:30] bnchs mincer [21:30] matey (another quote dfc knows) [21:30] bnchs the best way to avoid this [21:30] DaemonFC It's too late for the pebbles to vote? [21:30] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogwgq7JsRtE [21:30] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ogwgq7JsRtE [21:30] TR Bot yewtu.be | Hugs! yugioh Abridged Melvin'd quotes - Invidious [21:31] matey yep [21:31] bnchs is to mirror the pull requests to mail requests [21:31] matey anyway people looking for doom and gloom have better reason than this [21:31] matey bnchs: that helps in one way, makes this permanent in another [21:31] matey the fact is, gcc became part of ibmhub a long time ago [21:31] schestowitz-TR matey: the account name is gcc-mirror [21:32] matey what do i always say about mirrors roy [21:32] schestowitz-TR which means that as soon as they touched it they made it very clear what it is [21:32] bnchs you cant disable pull requests [21:32] schestowitz-TR but nevertheless [21:32] schestowitz-TR not a good thing [21:32] matey i know bnchs [21:32] schestowitz-TR I was just writing about gfithub [21:32] matey be sure to add why this isnt a problem roy [21:32] DaemonFC LAME is still using Forged Source. [21:32] DaemonFC :) [21:32] matey anyway [21:32] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ [21:32] DaemonFC From way back in the day. [21:32] TR Bot Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights [21:32] schestowitz typos possible [21:32] schestowitz draft [21:32] schestowitz report typos [21:32] matey no they cant disable pull requests [21:32] matey but they can put a note saying dont use them [21:32] DaemonFC Forged Source had the malware installer scandal. [21:33] matey if you dont stand up to this, people will have it take over [21:33] DaemonFC And now they mirror GitHub and pretend like there's still projects using Forged Source. [21:33] matey forged source had different owners then [21:33] matey the new ones fixed the malware (and now just dump clown shit on it) [21:33] matey but they did fix the malware issue [21:33] matey the clown shit is annoying-- i hit a pile of clown shit on clownhub today too [21:34] matey if github isnt the clown, what is [21:34] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:34] matey but the bigger problem for gcc (for now) isnt the mirror that has pull requsts [21:34] matey the bigger problem is still ibm [21:35] TR News http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ [21:35] schestowitz-TR ass [21:35] schestowitz-TR rms bro [21:35] schestowitz-TR ibm bros [21:35] matey oh hes dead leave him be [21:35] schestowitz-TR yeah [21:35] schestowitz-TR if true [21:35] matey and i never was sure adam stallman was the same one at ibm [21:35] schestowitz-TR that info is not reliable [21:35] schestowitz-TR and... to be fair [21:35] matey no i dont consider it reliable either [21:35] schestowitz-TR assuming he worked there until a decade ago [21:35] schestowitz-TR ibm was not bad to us [21:35] schestowitz-TR they helped gnu, linux, odf [21:35] matey it was trollish, but not the antichrist [21:36] schestowitz-TR they turned sour much later [21:36] matey ^ themselves [21:36] matey helped themselves [21:36] schestowitz-TR with ginni the apple fan [21:36] matey i think they were closer to neutral with more than a hint of selfish [21:36] TR News Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ [21:36] matey supporting patents and whatnot [21:36] TR Bot Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights [21:36] schestowitz-TR oin [21:36] matey more like a frenemy [21:36] schestowitz-TR openoffice [21:36] schestowitz-TR for symfony [21:37] schestowitz-TR all in all it did not feel like they attacked us [21:37] schestowitz-TR with their rogue interests [21:37] matey and i dont believe they just turned evil one day [21:37] schestowitz-TR that happened in more recent years [21:37] matey which means they were always planning something worse imo [21:37] schestowitz-TR and more so with them trying to monetise red hat and the swpats [21:37] matey they were a frenemy-- not nearly as bad as microsoft [21:37] matey and the fsf said [21:38] matey sure, let red hat host gcc and gdb [21:38] matey whats the worst that could happen [21:38] schestowitz-TR ukraine: let putin keep crimea [21:38] schestowitz-TR peace for our time [21:38] matey but just for the record, right now i think ibm is the bigger threat to gcc and gdb [21:38] schestowitz-TR putin licked [21:38] schestowitz-TR not he bites [21:38] matey the fact that there are pull requests on the gcc mirror on github though [21:38] matey thats bad [21:38] schestowitz-TR *now [21:39] schestowitz-TR same in linux kernel [21:39] schestowitz-TR torvalds closes themn [21:39] schestowitz-TR and hey [21:39] schestowitz-TR if the PRs are good [21:39] schestowitz-TR and important [21:39] matey oh god [21:39] matey no [21:39] schestowitz-TR the submitted would do it the right way [21:39] matey yes [21:39] schestowitz-TR and join the mailing list [21:39] matey right [21:39] schestowitz-TR if not, the changes are likely junk [21:40] matey but [21:40] matey if it becomes a thing [21:40] schestowitz-TR like typo correction or "I am from UMN" [21:40] matey and no one stops it [21:40] matey pretty soon they could have so many [21:40] matey that some idiot is saying [21:40] schestowitz-TR no [21:40] schestowitz-TR if thgey ignore them all [21:40] matey hey, just saying, maybe we should have someone accept these prs [21:40] matey and review them [21:40] schestowitz-TR and don't even reply [21:40] schestowitz-TR then it's like #techrights in librea chat [21:40] schestowitz-TR that channel died [21:40] matey they should reply [21:40] schestowitz-TR same in freenode [21:40] schestowitz-TR people can speak [21:40] schestowitz-TR nobody would reply [21:41] matey github isnt a problem that will go away based on do-nothingism [21:41] schestowitz-TR the URL SLUG is clear [21:41] schestowitz-TR GCC-MIRROR [21:41] schestowitz-TR is the submitter [21:41] schestowitz-TR 1) does not know what mirror means [21:41] schestowitz-TR 2) cannot figures how to send plain text email [21:41] matey if gcc-mirror is submitting prs to itself [21:41] matey even a year later [21:41] matey then this is deliberate fuckery [21:41] schestowitz-TR 3) cannot understand how the project work [21:41] matey not ignorance [21:41] matey nope [21:42] schestowitz-TR then it's very likely the person isn't a coder [21:42] matey i dont care if its molly and her hair is green now [21:42] matey this is deliberately bad [21:42] schestowitz-TR but a "hypocrite" (UMN) or saboteur or hipster [21:42] matey definitely one of those [21:42] schestowitz-TR like people who suggests in the kernel mailing lists that they should move to c# and pytion [21:42] schestowitz-TR for the kernel [21:42] schestowitz-TR python! [21:42] *bnchs (~bnchs@zmcwzm6jftxv2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:42] matey lol@python kernel [21:42] schestowitz-TR that was suggested by a guy from MICROSOFT [21:42] matey better than rust, still lol [21:42] schestowitz-TR Keigh Curtus [21:43] schestowitz-TR *Keith Curtis [21:43] matey /me tries to imagine how you could actually make a python kernel [21:43] schestowitz-TR python3 kernel [21:43] matey "ctypes" [21:43] matey "stfu" [21:43] matey python3! the rust of python [21:44] matey 2007: ironpython 2027: rustpython [21:44] schestowitz-TR btw [21:44] matey 2032: p# [21:44] bnchs wait wtf [21:44] bnchs python kernel? [21:44] schestowitz-TR watch the latest libreplanet talk I posted in techrights [21:44] matey bnchs: im sure they were trolling [21:44] schestowitz-TR about 5 hours ago [21:44] matey title [21:44] schestowitz-TR he explained how python3 broke games [21:44] matey he who [21:44] schestowitz-TR and then he had to spend loads of time trying to fix them [21:44] matey yeah python 3 is an npi [21:44] schestowitz-TR and once packaged they would have other issues [21:44] schestowitz-TR the code was the same [21:44] matey so is rust [21:45] schestowitz-TR only python changed [21:45] schestowitz-TR and then changed again and again [21:45] schestowitz-TR even python3 itself.. [21:45] schestowitz-TR getting url [21:45] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/freesw-game-restoration/ [21:45] TR Bot Dennis Payne on Free/Libre Computer Games and Game Restoration | Techrights [21:45] matey python 3 isnt a language, its a webapi cleverly disguised as a language-- same as rust [21:45] schestowitz-TR canonical had the same issues with python3 [21:45] schestowitz-TR we still use loads of python2 stuff [21:45] matey its a clown language [21:45] matey when canonical wont bend over for it you KNOW its bad [21:45] *bnchs has quit (Quit: Quit) [21:46] schestowitz-TR if you have 500,000 lines of code [21:46] *bnchs (~bnchs@zmcwzm6jftxv2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:46] matey we still use loads of python2 stuf <- if python 2 disappears i might spend years forking it [21:46] matey i wouldnt fork the whole thing [21:46] schestowitz-TR search and replace does not make the issue go away [21:46] matey just the parts that i give a shit about [21:46] schestowitz-TR some upgrader script [21:46] schestowitz-TR you can just blindly run against the code [21:46] matey i dont think pypy can ditch pypy2 fwiw [21:46] schestowitz-TR you need to check what you change, then do lots of testing [21:46] matey there are reasons some things stick [21:46] schestowitz-TR across platforms too [21:46] matey like pypy2 isnt just in it for "choice" [21:46] schestowitz-TR just to MAINTAIN what ALREADY worked [21:47] matey its a design decision [21:47] schestowitz-TR he praised SDL for API consistency [21:47] schestowitz-TR and backward compat [21:47] schestowitz-TR but [21:47] schestowitz-TR SDL is now shithub [21:47] schestowitz-TR they moved ladt year, iirc [21:47] matey sdl = sdl2 = opengl = vulkan = github [21:47] schestowitz-TR SDL2, very disappointing [21:47] matey but sdl WAS pretty stable [21:47] matey i used it in my own software [21:47] schestowitz-TR not reeally [21:47] schestowitz-TR not 20 years ago [21:47] matey 20 years ago? [21:47] schestowitz-TR when I was a student another student with the same supervisor used SDL [21:47] matey i definitely mean more recently [21:48] schestowitz-TR which turned out to be a mistake [21:48] schestowitz-TR as it had loads of issues in it [21:48] matey ok well obviously no software starts out stable [21:48] matey thats a contradiction in terms [21:48] schestowitz-TR even more than 20 years ago [21:48] matey so when i say it was stable [21:48] schestowitz-TR 2001 iirc [21:48] matey i mean after it became stable, but that should go without saying [21:48] schestowitz-TR someone wrote a game in it [21:48] schestowitz-TR and regretted it [21:48] schestowitz-TR lagrange is written in sdl btw [21:48] matey the fact that it had a non-stable period before that is literally all software ever [21:48] schestowitz-TR odd choice for a non-game [21:49] matey sdl has been used for a few non-game things [21:49] schestowitz-TR lagrange paste bugs remain [21:49] matey basically its less trouble to roll your own solutions if you dont like a bunch of unstable crap like i dunno, gtk [21:49] schestowitz-TR for over a year already [21:49] schestowitz-TR it cannot cope with select to clipboard [21:49] matey when more projects use sdl for gui, you know the other gui options have failed [21:49] matey because sdl isnt really a gui, its a canvas [21:50] matey when people are drawing their own controls, gui toolkits have failed horribly [21:50] matey the whole point of a gui toolkit is to save you the troubl [21:50] matey when they are too much trouble, theyve failed at the one job they had [21:50] psydruid and that's the crux of the story [21:50] matey i still like tk [21:51] matey but i guess it wouldnt be too popular in pakistan [21:51] matey since it seems to get arabic wrong [21:51] matey as a plus, it doesnt need hardbuzz [21:51] matey harfbuzz [21:51] matey as a minus, it cant seem to handle arabic [21:51] psydruid but it does get devanagari right? [21:51] matey or some other things [21:52] matey basic devanagari [21:52] matey the thing about computers and hindi is [21:52] matey roman characters are more common because full devanagari keyboards are expensive [21:52] matey so people handwrite it but type roman letters [21:52] matey its practical [21:53] bnchs matey: sdl is still great for cross-platform shit tho [21:53] matey yeah im a fan of sdl, its one of the few 3rd party libs ive even used [21:53] schestowitz-TR even mobile [21:53] psydruid typing devanagari on a US keyboard is a struggle for me [21:54] psydruid I can never find all characters [21:54] matey kuch nehi, chinta mat karo [21:55] psydruid it's much easier using an onscreen keyboard such as Openboard on Android sadly [21:55] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:55] psydruid so that would be nice to have on a GNU/Linux tablet for input of complex character sets [21:57] TR News Using the openSUSE Build Service to build software for POWER | Random thoughts of Peter CzP Czanik https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/power-opensuse-build-service/ Source: peter czanik [21:57] TR Bot Using the openSUSE Build Service to build software for POWER | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik [21:58] TR News New Linux kernel patch speeds up server shutdowns Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163160 [21:58] TR Bot New Linux kernel patch speeds up server shutdowns | Tux Machines ● Mar 30 [22:00] matey /me has xvkbd but its pretty crap [22:00] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163161 [22:00] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:01] matey what i meant is that a lot of people just use roman characters (transliterated) [22:01] matey and save devanagari lettering for handwriting [22:01] matey and professional typesetting [22:03] matey im not even talking about input methods [22:03] matey (like ive seen pinyin input methods for producing chinese characters) [22:04] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163162 [22:04] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:04] TR News Canonical/Ubuntu: Clown Computing, 'Smart' Homes, and 'IoT' Buzzwords Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163163 [22:04] TR Bot Canonical/Ubuntu: 'Clown' Computing, 'Smart' Homes, and 'IoT' Buzzwords | Tux Machines [22:04] matey the difference between roman hindi and input method is the latter (only) produces native characters [22:04] matey yeh roman hindi hai [22:05] DaemonFC California is a shit sandwich from top to bottom, but literally thanks to San Francisco. [22:05] DaemonFC The "bullet train to nowhere" that won't be any faster than Metra or Amtrak once every two bit town has a stop. [22:05] DaemonFC Running out of water and suggesting a twist of lemon to get rid of the dirt flavor. [22:05] DaemonFC Worst taxes in the nation. [22:05] matey but literally thanks to San Francisco <- deja poo [22:06] DaemonFC Crime unpunished and out of control due to liberal prosecutor that might actually face a recall in California for unleashing the Kraken on the idiots that voted for him. [22:07] DaemonFC I was on the fairly early Internet. Before most had it in their homes. Not old enough for Mosaic, but definitely old enough to use Netscape 3/4. [22:07] DaemonFC Speaking of Deja..... [22:07] matey psydruid do you use any browser that supports js? [22:07] matey even for tasks other than browsing? [22:08] DaemonFC I liked Deja News before Google bought them, ruined it, and turned it into Google Groups, and then censored it by unsubscribing me from newsgroups it did not like. [22:08] DaemonFC Deja News was one of the sites I liked so well it was in my bookmarks bar. [22:09] psydruid matey, falkon and netsurf mainly [22:09] matey ok falkon should do it [22:09] matey i cant netsurf to do anything with js other than fail [22:09] psydruid and yes, using roman is the default [22:09] matey ok i have a project i think i can complete in a couple hours [22:09] matey youll love it [22:10] psydruid that's cool [22:10] matey and if you dont, its no problem [22:10] matey /me demonstrates the evil power of js at what it truly does best :/ [22:10] psydruid nah, it's just so frustrating when I can do such things here on Android very easily [22:10] matey youll be able to do them without android too [22:11] *psydruid uses the same xmpp account across devices [22:11] psydruid Conversations here and Dino on my laptop [22:11] DaemonFC So Ubuntu is probably not on the table. [22:12] DaemonFC They've removed GNOME Software and written their own package installer that promotes Snaps instead. [22:12] matey awful [22:12] DaemonFC It's fair to say they're not a Debian derivative anymore. [22:12] matey if theres one thing worse than gnome [22:12] matey its snaps [22:12] matey hell, its fair to say debian isnt a debian derivative anymore [22:12] matey ubuntu isnt even a distro [22:13] matey its more of a distru [22:13] matey destru [22:13] matey its a weapon of gnu/linux distribution [22:13] psydruid [22:14] DaemonFC I'd recommend Fedora before this. This is awful. [22:14] matey /me cant read it anyway [22:14] psydruid it was just an example [22:14] matey [] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][] [] [] [22:14] DaemonFC Ubuntu slid to #6 on Distrowatch and Kubuntu to #19. [22:14] DaemonFC I remember when the top 5 were all based on Ubuntu. [22:14] psydruid main yahaan sab likh sakta hun [22:15] matey sakta kya matlab [22:15] DaemonFC Debian is also falling down the list. [22:15] DaemonFC Just not as fast. [22:16] DaemonFC Seems Manjaro is getting a lot of attention. [22:17] DaemonFC Canonical seems fine with asset stripping Ubuntu of anything that won't make money in the short term. [22:17] psydruid sakta ka matlab angrezi mein "able" hai [22:17] DaemonFC Short term, accepting Microsoft cash makes money. [22:18] DaemonFC Long term, it ruins your business. [22:18] matey ohho theek hai [22:18] DaemonFC I wonder what Walmart is using these days. [22:18] DaemonFC That Novell-Microsoft deal was mostly about Walmart. [22:19] DaemonFC They deemed Windows unsuitable to run at their scale except as a thin client. [22:19] *bnchs (~bnchs@5ryj9yffvnyzn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:19] DaemonFC It's gotten to the point where Windows can only manage simple tasks, so I have no idea why Walmart even uses the thin client versions. [22:20] bnchs matey: i was gonna say this before my ISP rapes my connection [22:20] bnchs but i ported a few SDL games to the PS3 and they were easy as fuck [22:21] DaemonFC " Clement Lefebvre has announced the release of a brand-new version of Linux Mint's Debian edition, better known as LMDE. The new release is based on Debian 11 and uses the Cinnamon desktop: "The team is proud to announce the release of LMDE 5 'Elsie'." The release announcement contains a brief introduction to LMDE, while the release notes provide a list of known issues: "To launch the installer in expert mode, run the following command: sudo [22:21] DaemonFC live-installer-expert-mode. To install LMDE on an existing LVM partition you must first remove it from the LVM volumes and groups to which it belongs. In manual partitioning mode, note that the installer will auto-mount all swap partitions. These partitions will also be placed in /etc/fstab in the installed system. The LMDE ISO images and the live installer use a different structure than the ones used by other distributions. Do not use Yumi or [22:21] DaemonFC multi-boot technologies with LMDE as it won't install properly. The root account is locked by default. To use the recovery console (from the Grub menu) or log in as root, you first need to give root a new password: sudo passwd root."" [22:21] DaemonFC Linux Mint is fine to recommend to people with the stipulation that they use the Debian Edition. [22:22] DaemonFC Canonical already showed that Ubuntu is not a stable base and that they will commit hostilities using pettifogger attorneys with "creative" interpretations of the law. [22:22] bnchs so i can see the pain of using tor with cloudflare websites [22:22] DaemonFC And they do subtle things to corrupt distributions that base on them. [22:22] bnchs a few months ago [22:22] psydruid I guess someone wasn't joking when I asked this person what toolkit I should use to write software for Windows and they answered "DirectX", even though the answer should have been SDL [22:22] bnchs the cloudflare websites worked, but now [22:25] matey but i ported a few SDL games to the PS3 and they were easy as fuck <- thats awesome [22:25] matey as much as i hate sony forever [22:25] matey /me hasnt forgiven them in 17 years [22:25] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:25] matey he wasnt kidding about the isp [22:26] *bnchs (~bnchs@ftv6ewgxvirg8.irc) has joined #techrights [22:27] bnchs irc is alot more stabler in ethernet than wifi [22:27] bnchs probably jammers in area [22:29] bnchs matey: the PS3 hacking community is trying to port opengl to PS3 (as a library) [22:29] bnchs it actually uses mesa [22:29] bnchs and nouveau drivers [22:31] psydruid do you have access to the bare metal including the ability to run your own operating system on it instead of their hypervisor? [22:32] DaemonFC "LMDE aims to be as similar as possible to Linux Mint, but without using Ubuntu. The package base is provided by Debian instead." [22:32] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@nvcyfmaeumqus.irc) has joined #techrights [22:33] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:33] DaemonFC Major improvement. At least you don't have to worry about Snaps and Pettifogger attacks that way. [22:33] bnchs__ psydruid: only in an eariler firmware version [22:34] bnchs__ and you can only downgrade with QA mode enabled [22:34] bnchs__ (aka game tester mode) [22:34] activelow never grasped the idea, why Ubuntu forked from Debian (among many other spin-offs); why is a separate distribution necessary instead of simply apt-get install [22:35] activelow and changing some GTK theme [22:36] *bnchs (~bnchs@cm56p76uez4zq.irc) has joined #techrights [22:37] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:39] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:39] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:40] *bnchs (~bnchs@zcmkkc73x4m8n.irc) has joined #techrights [22:43] bnchs was wrong [22:43] bnchs it was simply a football night [22:43] bnchs where everyone in the country watches the football match livestream [22:45] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089264644/is-it-cake-netflix [22:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089264644/is-it-cake-netflix [22:45] TR Bot The case for 'Is It Cake?,' Netflix's new game show : NPR [22:45] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, $20 a month to guess if something is cake or not. [22:46] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@366vb2izmp88k.irc) has joined #techrights [22:47] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:48] psydruid wasn't that yesterday? [22:49] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:51] *bnchs (~bnchs@em3hxz4w9psb2.irc) has joined #techrights [22:53] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@xbi9v4iue36w2.irc) has joined #techrights [22:54] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:54] *psydroid9 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [22:54] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [22:57] *bnchs___ (~bnchs@d65va866uk2j8.irc) has joined #techrights [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 87.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 245.16 [22:59] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Mar 30 [23:03] *bnchs___ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:04] XRevan86 https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_eng [23:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: zona.media | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_eng [23:04] TR Bot Ukrainian refugee interview about Azov atrocities was shot by the FSB. State media ordered to omit the source [23:05] activelow ^ funded by german "social democrats" and "alliance90/greens" [23:05] *bnchs (~bnchs@nmd6fagwg2k2g.irc) has joined #techrights [23:06] XRevan86 activelow: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/004/592/misc-jackie-chan-l.jpg [23:07] activelow https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Mitgliedern_der_Atlantik-Br%C3%BCcke [23:07] TR Bot Liste von Mitgliedern der Atlantik-Brcke Wikipedia [23:07] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@32jgrq3ya8ate.irc) has joined #techrights [23:08] XRevan86 I'll assume it wasn't a comment on the link I gave, but I've no idea what the comment was actually about then. [23:08] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:08] activelow funneling billions of cash into russia, in parallel supplying ukraine with weapons... and nuckling the last drip of oil and gas out of Ukraine/Russian pipelines [23:09] MinceR https://nitter.eu/pic/media%2FETpYFbYUwAAo2A-.jpg%3Fname%3Dorig [23:09] activelow recently, they are planning to acquire F-35 from USA, build Intel semiconductor plants in east-germany, and buy Israeli missile systems [23:10] *bnchs (~bnchs@a4h2e5k2qpedu.irc) has joined #techrights [23:10] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:11] activelow some other rumors: 250 Abrams tanks brought to Poland (unverified) [23:11] DaemonFC I doubt Biden went off script. [23:11] DaemonFC REGIME CHANGE. Putin will be taken out somehow. [23:12] MinceR good [23:12] MinceR they should hurry up and kill that asshole before more people die because of him [23:12] MinceR or better yet, start killing him, but kill him slowly [23:13] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:13] activelow because of whom? Burisma and affiliates? [23:14] MinceR because of his war crimes and other crimes against humanity [23:15] XRevan86 activelow: "funneling billions of cash into russia, in parallel supplying ukraine with weapons... and nuckling the last drip of oil and gas out of Ukraine/Russian pipelines" <- [citation needed] [23:15] DaemonFC I don't think the US will go to war with Russia. I think there will be an element of the Russian government, inside the FSB, that gets rid of Putin. [23:15] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [23:15] *psydroid8 has quit (Quit: Quit) [23:15] *psydroid9 has quit (connection closed) [23:15] MinceR that may not be up for the US to decide, unless they're willing to surrender unconditionally [23:16] MinceR i wonder if someone inside putler's inner circle will really be willing to get rid of him [23:16] activelow XRevan86: 24/7 broadcasted on german tv and newspapers flooded. although i had not heard reports anymore about the operational status of the Ukraine pipeline attached to german energy/gas grid [23:16] activelow last reports were, "Alliance90/greens" (atlantic bridge minion war criminals) prepare for energy emergency plans activated [23:17] activelow and, whatever corona-lockdown was before, they are planning for more of this [23:17] activelow to ration oil and gas supplies (i haven't any anyway) [23:18] XRevan86 activelow: Mediazona has 24/7 broadcast in Germany? Amazing! Tell them that, they'll love it. [23:18] activelow XRevan86: this one wasn't broadcasted in germany https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_eng [23:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: zona.media | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://zona.media/translate/2022/03/30/pressafsb_eng [23:18] TR Bot Ukrainian refugee interview about Azov atrocities was shot by the FSB. State media ordered to omit the source [23:21] MinceR XRevan86: https://ircz.de/m/pics/2019/08/14/08/51/44/564a27e59eae4189b100bcf7b34d6fd4.jpeg [23:21] XRevan86 MinceR: [23:21] TR Bot Thinking Face Emoji [23:22] MinceR :) [23:22] XRevan86 goddamit [23:22] XRevan86 I was distracted. [23:22] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: I expect to be back tomorrow) [23:22] XRevan86 coub.com is dying, I dumped everything that was ever mentioned in my history and now reviewing if everything is all right. And reminiscing. [23:23] XRevan86 (it should be obvious I don't have an "Emoji Picker") [23:23] MinceR :> [23:34] kingoffrance i interpreted that "shot by the FSB' differently the first glance ;0 [23:35] MinceR :> [23:40] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032169 [23:40] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/NxqyjtF.jpg created on 2022-03-21 17:58:16.882806 [23:45] *matey has quit (connection closed)