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scientes>  they could decide themselves if they wanted to use exFAT or notAug 30 00:47
scientesthat's not that big of a dealAug 30 00:47
scientespart of the way libre software works is that it don't stop people from excercising the freedoms, even if incomplete, on propriatary softwareAug 30 00:48
DaemonFC[m]Well, since SD cards do use exFAT and the FUSE driver is pretty bad (lots of CPU usage and can fuck up the entire file system and no repair tools), it would be nice to have a kernel driver that can actually handle the file system properly.Aug 30 01:06
DaemonFC[m]I don't know what state the Samsung driver is in. Might be merged into staging, but most distributions will end up building it because it's so widely used.Aug 30 01:07
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127533 [https://pleroma.site/objects/60726968-eed7-4f65-ae47-7477822a6a69]Aug 30 06:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: NVIDIA, Intel and Vulkan/DXVK http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127534 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e7886553-9a7a-4fdd-9570-4784d944798b]Aug 30 06:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Bastian Ilsø Hougaard: GNOME Developer Documentation – The Bottom-Up Approach http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127535 [https://pleroma.site/objects/87e4d01e-e858-41bd-96d5-163ffc73e09e]Aug 30 06:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events: Red Hat Summit 2020, Akademy and FSF Licensing and Compliance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127536 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6255a84b-c6c5-4f67-819d-2a5591662b8d]Aug 30 06:57
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/9Kp5kZI.pngAug 30 07:31
schestowitz[23:11] <psydroid> oh, someone on #talos-workstation called you an asshat the other day for railing against .NET and Mono going as far back as last decadeAug 30 08:05
schestowitzibmer?Aug 30 08:05
schestowitzIBM was not against Mono at the timeAug 30 08:05
schestowitzI actually criticised for itAug 30 08:05
schestowitzTALOS people are the hardcore POWER cultists I guessAug 30 08:05
schestowitzwho else would pay so much for a friggin' pc?Aug 30 08:06
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Servers: Red Hat, SUSE and Storj http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127537 [https://pleroma.site/objects/663ee6bd-f867-421f-b9c2-d42f4710aac0]Aug 30 08:18
psydroidschestowitz, I don't know about their affiliations, it seems a bit unclear to meAug 30 08:28
psydroid> mono always had the massive FUD campaign against itAug 30 08:28
psydroid> perpetrated by the FSF (who had dotgnu, which was an utter disaster) and asshats like roy scheistowitz (who tried to cancel a debian developer for packaging mono)Aug 30 08:29
schestowitzlol!!!Aug 30 08:29
schestowitzhe's not a debian dveloper!!!!!Aug 30 08:29
MinceRlolAug 30 08:29
schestowitzHe's a Microsoft employee!!Aug 30 08:29
schestowitzJo ShieldsAug 30 08:30
schestowitzand we were right about him all alongAug 30 08:30
schestowitzlater he said he needed mental counsellingsAug 30 08:30
schestowitzfor being called out on itAug 30 08:30
psydroid> me and the mono guys who do ppc in spare time try to keep things in order but i'm not like awilfox/JSharp level ppc assembly starer or mono JIT internals expert here (even if in my occasional bursts of activity i get better)Aug 30 08:31
psydroid> anyways this rant doubles as a call for help for more eyes on ppc64Aug 30 08:37
psydroidkrbtgt is the nick of this person on that channelAug 30 08:37
psydroidand nope, I am not going to contribute to MS technology now or ever in the futureAug 30 08:38
psydroidmaybe they could hire some developers for thatAug 30 08:38
schestowitzno needAug 30 08:40
schestowitzred hat hires themAug 30 08:40
schestowitzeven msft managersAug 30 08:40
schestowitzred hat isn't quite trustworthy anymoreAug 30 08:40
psydroidyeah, so if there are people who infiltrate our own communities and start spreading FUD, it's utterly important to be aware of it and act accordingly, even if that means observing them in silence to see what their next moves areAug 30 08:41
schestowitztime of fluxAug 30 08:41
schestowitzchoose your allies carefullyAug 30 08:41
schestowitzanyway, I will write about it laterAug 30 08:41
schestowitzread, in the mean time https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/corporate-influence.71876/page-2#post-436148Aug 30 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.freebsd.org | Corporate Influence | Page 2 | The FreeBSD ForumsAug 30 08:41
schestowitzit's newAug 30 08:41
schestowitzsomeone sent it to me an hour agoAug 30 08:41
psydroidI will do soAug 30 08:42
schestowitz(tamper warning)...Aug 30 08:42
schestowitz[08:39] <schestowitz> > xAug 30 08:42
schestowitz[08:39] <schestowitz> > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-29/microsoft-vendors-win-a-7-6-billion-deal-for-pentagon-softwareAug 30 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Aug 30 08:42
schestowitz[08:39] <schestowitz> > =Aug 30 08:42
schestowitz[08:39] <schestowitz> > xAug 30 08:42
schestowitz[08:39] <schestowitz> > https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/29/20838634/bill-gates-netflix-documentary-series-davis-guggenheim-microsoftAug 30 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates’ life explored in new Netflix documentary - The VergeAug 30 08:42
schestowitz[08:39] <schestowitz> > # yet another hagiography for that criminal dropoutAug 30 08:42
schestowitz[08:39] <schestowitz> Those last two links achieve nothing but maladjust my blood pressure :-) and it's not even 9am yet.Aug 30 08:42
schestowitzThe #pentagon has just injected billions of dollars into #microsoft again. It's an imperialistic company, strategic to the US Empire with its back doors in everything. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAAug 30 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsAug 30 08:44
psydroidI have never used any Red Hat operating system since Red Hat 8/9 and especially Fedora Core 1 proved to be a disaster on the hardware I had at the timeAug 30 08:46
schestowitz>>> Spam about exfat omitted. Aug 30 08:49
schestowitz>> I will write about it shortly.Aug 30 08:49
schestowitz> What I read online so far makes it look like being about injecting M$Aug 30 08:49
schestowitz> products and software patents into the kernel.  That increases theAug 30 08:49
schestowitz> likelihood of other patent vectors like Mono being used against FOSS.Aug 30 08:49
schestowitz> If M$ were serious about supporting FOSS, it would do just that: addAug 30 08:49
schestowitz> support for EXT4 and OpenZFS and promote both over exfat and NTFS.Aug 30 08:49
schestowitzpsydroid: same hereAug 30 08:50
schestowitzmy first was redhat in 2000Aug 30 08:50
psydroidI am increasingly feeling uneasy with the whole free software movement as it currently works. Too much shilling, infiltration and whitewashing is going on to the point I am not sure I even want to work with or on any of these projects. It's like parasites that decided to cling to a host to destroy it from the inside out until nothing of value is left before jumping onto a new one.Aug 30 08:54
psydroidand it's not just M$, Google is also making it very hard to work with their code and is quite hostile towards contributors on certain combinations of architectures and operating systems, most likely on purposeAug 30 08:57
MinceRproprietary software is even worse thoughAug 30 08:58
schestowitzdrm, spying etc.Aug 30 08:58
schestowitzalthough FOSS too does spying these daysAug 30 08:58
schestowitzaccess to source is not enough for Software Freedom anymoreAug 30 08:58
MinceRalso software not being developed to be useful but just to satisfy checklistsAug 30 08:58
MinceRby people who don't use itAug 30 08:59
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psydroidI am not talking about proprietary software, as I don't like it and try to use as little of it as possible. But these days also free software looks more and more like a battle zone, whereas before it seemed to be mostly a labour of love (outside of the corporate Linux kernel community). Now I don't even know where you can go without running into the same issues with the same people, it's as if they're all over the place.Aug 30 09:06
psydroidpersonally I would rather work on something in my spare time that has no ties to and no chance of getting compromised by deceptive corporations that try to hi-jack basically a whole movement and try to rebrand it with the meaningless and business-friendly term of open sourceAug 30 09:09
schestowitzI know the feelingAug 30 09:11
psydroidI've been thinking of writing a web browser from scratch that has no ties to Mozilla, Google, M$, Apple or any of the other companies that have been trying to hi-jack the web. But my knowledge in many parts is lacking and it would be a huge undertaking.Aug 30 09:11
schestowitzSo you need to know what to avoidAug 30 09:11
schestowitzPython is the latest attack targetAug 30 09:11
schestowitzMicrosoft already compromised everything under apache/ASFAug 30 09:12
schestowitzdevelopers aren't happy about itAug 30 09:12
schestowitzForget about Google anything, or GAFAM...Aug 30 09:12
schestowitzGNU seems safeAug 30 09:12
schestowitzDebian managed to get rid of some nuisance people, but not systemdAug 30 09:12
psydroidyes, I am not responding to many recruiters with various job offers because I might have to compromise on my principlesAug 30 09:12
schestowitzrightAug 30 09:13
schestowitzI know that feeling tooAug 30 09:13
schestowitzI had battled with my employers latelyAug 30 09:13
schestowitzover decisions to adopt some "cloud" and blob crapAug 30 09:13
schestowitzI have a "disciplinary" meeting next weekAug 30 09:14
schestowitzalthough I suspect it's nothing directly related to my arguments over those thingsAug 30 09:14
schestowitzI'm the most senior employer, time-wise, bar the CEO/FounderAug 30 09:14
schestowitzpsydroid: be ready to make >small< compromisesAug 30 09:14
schestowitzif optimize everythig you'll never be happy - Don KnuthAug 30 09:15
psydroidI did it before in the corporate world and it didn't make me feel comfortable and didn't bring me any advantage whatsoever except for the monetary aspect, which is also an ephemeral thingAug 30 09:16
psydroidschestowitz, I will keep that in mindAug 30 09:17
schestowitzI'll drop some text here, as it's related and 2 minutes old:Aug 30 09:17
schestowitz___Aug 30 09:17
schestowitz>>> # yet another hagiography for that criminal dropoutAug 30 09:17
schestowitz>> There's this thing I call "emotional reaction".Aug 30 09:17
schestowitz>>Aug 30 09:17
schestowitz>> Sometimes I explain to Rianne that is feels similar to forgetting to doAug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> something.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>>Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> Not sure why.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>>Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> It's like I want to say something but cannot.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>>Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> xxxx used to send me depressing UPC/EPO messages, which turned out toAug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> be exaggerations anyway.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz> Of course.  I try to minimize the amount of those sent.  In this case,Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz> because of the size of the audience whatever bullshit that documentaryAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> spews will be difficult to debunk.  Bill's reputation management hasAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> been able to skew perceptions over a longer period of time.  Looking atAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> factual articles from 20 years which stick to the facts available todayAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> one would notice that they would be categorized as 'rabidAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> anti-microsoft' these days.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz> Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> At one point I started classifying things I get told or read "emotional"Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> to highlight it's just counter-productive to the train of thought. ButAug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> not my own fault...Aug 30 09:18
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schestowitz> Yes, necessary to step back.  Or as one friend used to say, 'be ZenAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> about it'.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz> Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> This is, in part, why I stopped covering Gates Fdn. crap. Too much lyingAug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> to tolerate.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz> Again, Netflix coverage means lying to a) a whole new audience, which isAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> also at the same time b) a whole new generationAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> Today I'll do articles about LF/MSFT and EPO/UPC.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>>Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz>> I also have a major ILO-AT story on the way.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz> Excellent, both of those are much higher priority.  I still wonder whyAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> EPO is able to act outside of European laws so egregiously for so manyAug 30 09:18
schestowitz> years still.Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz___Aug 30 09:18
schestowitz[09:16] <psydroid> I did it before in the corporate world and it didn't make me feel comfortable and didn't bring me any advantage whatsoever except for the monetary aspect, which is also an ephemeral thingAug 30 09:18
schestowitzeventually you will die, so the money in excess doesn't have much real worthAug 30 09:18
schestowitzwe don't live in agricultural societies where we can starve in the streetsAug 30 09:18
schestowitzalso, if you're Dutch, there are social security programmes and family to fall back on (unless you become drug addict)Aug 30 09:19
schestowitzthe above is relevant for the "zen" partAug 30 09:19
schestowitzI used to get more emotional about the newsAug 30 09:19
schestowitzNow I take a break, change topic, come back to it later when the emotional aspect wears out. Same at work, if having to deal with nuisance clients...Aug 30 09:20
schestowitzRMS would struggle to find an employer, but he's in retirement age already and won't need to be in that position as he receives a salary from his Foundation with its special IRS statusAug 30 09:20
schestowitzwhich I suppose includes a pensionAug 30 09:21
schestowitzI think I need to work another 10 years to be safe financially, assuming very frugal liestyle. Then I don't have to 'sell' my time to nuisance companiesAug 30 09:21
schestowitzIf only society rewarded people, financially, for their contributions to society rather than to "the economy" (i.e. the rich and powerful)Aug 30 09:22
psydroidI am going to have to find a new full-time job soon and make some drastic changes in my life and put my studies on the back burner, but at least I have enjoyed the past few years of my life immensely where I learned things I couldn't or didn't for a long time and came back to the things I am truly passionate aboutAug 30 09:22
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schestowitzmoney isn't happeiness anywayAug 30 09:23
schestowitzunless lack of it means hunger, cold (no shelter) and illnessAug 30 09:23
schestowitzif you have health coverage and social programmes, money and comfort aren't even correlated either. It's just boiling down to social "status" or "class".Aug 30 09:24
schestowitz(problem is, in racist brexit Britain even our social programmes are now at risk)Aug 30 09:24
psydroidit never was for me and never will be, but I will make sure to get enough of it to take care of myself and eventually help othersAug 30 09:25
psydroidI am also considering moving again, if that's what it takes to find a new jobAug 30 09:25
psydroidhttps://dutchreview.com/dutch-news/discrimination-in-the-job-market-the-dutch-government-is-cracking-down/Aug 30 09:26
schestowitzsome countries lack tech skillsAug 30 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discrimination in the Job Market: the Dutch government is cracking down – DutchReviewAug 30 09:26
schestowitzbut salaries there are very lowAug 30 09:26
psydroidbecause of things like thisAug 30 09:26
schestowitzand you can die from something simple like mosquitoes and dog bitesAug 30 09:26
psydroidI lived and worked in Poland for a year and a halfAug 30 09:27
schestowitzdid you see the Dutch EPO job?Aug 30 09:27
psydroidit was a good learning experience but I wouldn't do it again at my curent ageAug 30 09:27
psydroidno, I didn'tAug 30 09:27
schestowitzArticle the other day: http://techrights.org/2019/08/21/epo-modern-slavery/Aug 30 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: António Campinos’ European Patent Office Redefines Modern Slavery in the Heart of Europe in 2019 | TechrightsAug 30 09:27
schestowitzScreenshots (in Dutch) http://techrights.org/2019/08/22/no-epostaff4rights/Aug 30 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | No More Rights for EPO Staff? | TechrightsAug 30 09:28
schestowitz800 euros a weekAug 30 09:28
schestowitzsorry, a MONTHAug 30 09:28
schestowitzfor a tech jobAug 30 09:28
schestowitzin Dutch metro!!Aug 30 09:28
psydroidI live in that metro!Aug 30 09:31
psydroidbut that's just peanutsAug 30 09:31
psydroidand I wonder how they can even find anyone to do that jobAug 30 09:31
psydroidyou might as well be looking for interns or homeless people in the streetsAug 30 09:32
psydroidI mean, that's not even a living wage in Western EuropeAug 30 09:32
schestowitzhaAug 30 09:34
schestowitzI might quite that some dayAug 30 09:34
schestowitzEPO is a symptom of bigger issues and seeing how EPO abuses aren't being addressed, one has to wonder...Aug 30 09:35
psydroidI also lived and worked in Dublin in moderately paid jobsAug 30 09:37
psydroidbut seeing how housing prices kept creeping up and how you don't have any real security even if you pay your rent on time, I decided to get out of there while I still couldAug 30 09:38
psydroidsome colleagues got stuck with mortgages that meant they didn't even have the money to pay for a broadband connection at homeAug 30 09:39
psydroidyou are essentially on the treadmill, forced to keep working because any other action will render you homeless or dependentAug 30 09:40
psydroidand that's what I truly dislike about the way companies and societies workAug 30 09:41
psydroidwhy can't they be happy with people earning enough to make a decent living while saving enough to do nice things as wellAug 30 09:41
psydroidpeople will feel good in their skins and will also probably be more productive at work, if they don't have to worry about paying the bills all the timeAug 30 09:42
psydroidso modern-day slavery indeedAug 30 09:46
schestowitzsorry, was away on phone (my dad called)Aug 30 09:53
schestowitzslavery is relativeAug 30 09:53
schestowitzbut the way I see it, if I do things against my will 40 hours a week, I'm not freeAug 30 09:53
schestowitz10 hours? Maybe I'm OK...Aug 30 09:54
schestowitzand there's an imposition on timing, where sleeping cycles become like curfewsAug 30 09:54
schestowitzmortgages are a no-goAug 30 09:54
schestowitzRMS had some good words on cars and mortgages, I'm not sure if he ever droveAug 30 09:55
schestowitzI stopped driving ages ago, for lots of reasons. It's an antiquated status symbol, like "cell" "phones" were in the 1990s.Aug 30 09:55
psydroidI was given notice to leave my apartment one month before my contract expired, just because they found some new tennant and could jack up the price by €200-€300 over the €950 I was already payingAug 30 09:57
psydroidwith the help of my employer I moved all my stuff to storage and a colleague rented out his second apartment out to me for a monthAug 30 09:58
psydroidI spent some time looking for a room or an apartment after that but couldn't find anything affordable or for 3-6 monthsAug 30 09:59
schestowitzthat's a major source of nuisanceAug 30 10:00
schestowitzsometimes you wonder if sharing a house with family is betterAug 30 10:00
schestowitzsociety 'looks' down upon it because it's "not good for business"Aug 30 10:00
schestowitzi.e for barons who own thousands of homesAug 30 10:00
*schestowitz lived in student accommodation as long as was possibleAug 30 10:00
psydroidso I spent the last 6 months of my stay in Ireland sleeping at hostels and going to work, on weekends flying to and from the Netherlands and a few times staying in Cork, Galway or Donegal because it was actually cheaper that wayAug 30 10:01
psydroidI saved a boatload of money that way, which my managers were not happy aboutAug 30 10:02
schestowitzstatus thingAug 30 10:02
psydroidbut it allowed me to pay for my studies for 2 yearsAug 30 10:02
schestowitzimagine a company explaining to job applicants that workers live in hostels :-)Aug 30 10:02
psydroidwhich is much more important to me, because it benefits me directlyAug 30 10:03
psydroidyeah, it's a common thing in Dublin :)Aug 30 10:03
schestowitzliving in hostels?Aug 30 10:03
psydroidyesAug 30 10:03
schestowitzhmmm...Aug 30 10:03
schestowitzdoesn't sound too safeAug 30 10:03
psydroidthere is just not enough housing for all workersAug 30 10:04
schestowitzthen again, Ireland has not been historically safe. Famine and violenceAug 30 10:04
schestowitzI was in Ireland until this past TuesdayAug 30 10:04
schestowitzWe came back Tuesday nightAug 30 10:04
psydroidand this is projected to be a problem for the next 50 yearsAug 30 10:04
schestowitzall those murals of RIA staff and troops make you wonder...Aug 30 10:04
schestowitzhmm.. if there's a demand for housing, surely they can make more, UNLESS....Aug 30 10:05
schestowitzI saw how in some cities the slum lords lobbies against itAug 30 10:05
psydroidI do get inquiries to come back to work there, but I'd rather move to Germany or even better SwitzerlandAug 30 10:05
schestowitzas more housing means prices they can charge (rent) or sell for goes downAug 30 10:05
psydroidyesAug 30 10:05
schestowitzsick worldAug 30 10:05
schestowitzsick, sick,  sickAug 30 10:06
psydroidbut you know how American interests basically own Ireland at this pointAug 30 10:06
schestowitzlet's make people sleep in the streets! Fear of homelessness is good for our "house prices".... times 1000 for the 1000 homes I ownAug 30 10:06
psydroidthat's what living in Ireland felt like to me, a preview of what life in the US would be likeAug 30 10:07
psydroidand it was not a pretty picture for me at leastAug 30 10:07
schestowitzBelfast alsoAug 30 10:07
schestowitzthe cab driver told me soAug 30 10:07
schestowitzlots of the investment there comes from the US nowAug 30 10:07
psydroidyou know Ireland has a huge homelessness problemAug 30 10:07
schestowitzlots of money sunk in by Americans looking for RoIAug 30 10:07
psydroidpeople with jobs being homelessAug 30 10:08
schestowitzso obviously they can't dick around and piss these barons offAug 30 10:08
psydroidwhole fanilies living in hotelsAug 30 10:08
schestowitzsounds like the Amazon and Walmart issueAug 30 10:08
psydroidfamilies*Aug 30 10:08
schestowitzWorkers who live in their carsAug 30 10:08
schestowitznot even SUVsAug 30 10:08
psydroidI think it's ridiculous we even think this is acceptable now, because it isn'tAug 30 10:09
schestowitzdependsAug 30 10:10
schestowitzit's all relativeAug 30 10:10
schestowitzthere's the "I heard that"Aug 30 10:10
schestowitzor "it's not too uncommon"Aug 30 10:10
schestowitzor bad things get 'normalised'Aug 30 10:10
psydroidI visited a friend of mine in London back in 2015, I think he and his flatmate were paying £2000 for rent combined for the apartment in EalingAug 30 10:12
psydroidif you earn more than enough, it's fineAug 30 10:13
schestowitzstill a waste of moneyAug 30 10:13
psydroidbut if that is a huge chunk out of your income, things get toughAug 30 10:13
schestowitzand if you want to stay in central London after work, you must save up.... a lotAug 30 10:13
psydroidyesAug 30 10:13
schestowitzimagine being "between jobs"Aug 30 10:14
schestowitzhaving to apply "from the outside" just to make ends meet on severance payAug 30 10:14
psydroidmy time "between jobs" in Dublin lasted only for a weekend, fortunatelyAug 30 10:15
schestowitzsounds gig economy-likeAug 30 10:15
schestowitzpeople being like taps you can switch on and offAug 30 10:16
schestowitzno holiday, no proper contract, no sick liveAug 30 10:16
schestowitzpeople died for these labour rightsAug 30 10:16
schestowitzthen there are zero-hour contractsAug 30 10:16
schestowitzI think the US has something similar to help game/fake employment figuresAug 30 10:16
schestowitzto avert class war that involves rich people being eatenAug 30 10:17
psydroidI rarely took holidays in all of my jobs, I just mostly took time off on weekends plus a day or twoAug 30 10:17
psydroidthat's why I could leave my last job two weeks before my contract expiredAug 30 10:17
schestowitzI took 7 days off work for Sept.Aug 30 10:17
schestowitzWhich is nice, I'll be able to do lots of articles, maybe visit Wales in a few weeksAug 30 10:18
schestowitzholidays are important even if YOU don't NEED themAug 30 10:18
schestowitzsome people DO actually NEED themAug 30 10:18
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schestowitzsame for sickness, I rarely get ill myself, but know many who are ill every other monthAug 30 10:18
psydroidI've seen lots of places in the UK, I flew from Dublin to them almost every weekend in the summer of 2015. Now I don't fly at all, but back then that was my lifeline to actually enjoy my life off workAug 30 10:19
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psydroidI need my holidays too actuallyAug 30 10:20
schestowitzsounds like you did not have much as a "life" tbhAug 30 10:20
schestowitzto some people "life" means work (for someone else), sleep, work out, eat...Aug 30 10:21
schestowitzage increasesAug 30 10:21
schestowitzyou turn 40Aug 30 10:21
schestowitzyou turn 50Aug 30 10:21
schestowitzyou turn 60Aug 30 10:21
schestowitzwhere's my life gone?Aug 30 10:21
schestowitzOh, yeah, I have savings now, I can retirerAug 30 10:21
schestowitzHEART ATTACK. Fun.Aug 30 10:21
schestowitz*Fin.Aug 30 10:21
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psydroidactually I did have a life, I just had trouble getting holidays approved several times because I couldn't easily be replacedAug 30 10:23
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schestowitzit's their responsibility, not yoursAug 30 10:23
schestowitzThat's what they pay a bunch of unqualified idiots forAug 30 10:23
schestowitzpeople who do nothing productive for the company, except paperworkAug 30 10:24
psydroidthat's why I'm going to redo my CV and scrap lots of thingsAug 30 10:24
schestowitzare you a hardware person?Aug 30 10:25
psydroidI don't want to be hired for "speaking all the languages in the world"Aug 30 10:25
schestowitzat one point we had some openings in our company, but not now...Aug 30 10:25
psydroidmostly softwareAug 30 10:25
schestowitzEPO wanted polyglotsAug 30 10:26
schestowitznow it's not hiringAug 30 10:26
schestowitzand when it does, it's fresh grads on low pay and no proper contractAug 30 10:26
schestowitzseems like the trend, the days of work security are long gone. If you have a contract, cling onto it hardAug 30 10:26
psydroidI'm just going to look for a decently paid software development job, I don't want to make the mistake of going into technical support againAug 30 10:28
schestowitztech support is OK depending on scopeAug 30 10:29
schestowitzif tech support means sysadmin stuffAug 30 10:29
schestowitzlike investigation and SRE stuffAug 30 10:29
schestowitzbut not phone stuff with angry customersAug 30 10:29
schestowitza colleague left over thisAug 30 10:29
schestowitzfacing people or having them nag in real time is no funAug 30 10:30
psydroidfor me it was a combination of those thingsAug 30 10:30
psydroidthe technical aspect was OK, I worked with Linux/Unix and Windows and databases and supported the company's ETL toolAug 30 10:31
psydroidbut dealing with customers on the phone over what to me looked like trivial issues, made me realise that wasn't what I wanted to get stuck doing for 5-10 yearsAug 30 10:32
schestowitzdefinitelyAug 30 10:33
schestowitzit also impedes your personal developmentAug 30 10:33
psydroidthe job before that I did CAD/CAM handling all customers across EMEA, because I was the only person who spoke French fluentlyAug 30 10:34
schestowitzif you speak at this level, you tend to get stuck at that levelAug 30 10:34
psydroidand the amount of abuse I got there made me depresssedAug 30 10:34
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schestowitzyou're vulnerable to other people's mood swings and angerAug 30 10:35
psydroidespecially because I cleaned up the mess my non-technical native French speaking colleague had left behindAug 30 10:35
schestowitzadrenaline travels Aug 30 10:35
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schestowitzpsydroid: thanks for sharing your story, wife rianne reads this too on her laptopAug 30 10:43
schestowitzI need to get back now to writing articles in techrightsAug 30 10:43
schestowitzspeak soonAug 30 10:43
psydroidschestowitz, no problem, speak to you soonAug 30 10:44
schestowitzhappy hackingAug 30 10:44
psydroidthanksAug 30 10:44
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*XRevan86 is pissedAug 30 17:08
XRevan86https://zona.media/news/2019/08/30/bortkoAug 30 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zona.media | Владимир Бортко снялся с выборов губернатора ПетербургаAug 30 17:08
XRevan86The most viable candidate for the city mayor elections exited the "race".Aug 30 17:08
scientesXRevan86, I was at 5800m yesterday! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MistiAug 30 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Misti - WikipediaAug 30 17:11
XRevan86As a friend of mine in the CPRF party says, he was pressured to do so. Pretty obvious. Also not the first time.Aug 30 17:12
XRevan86https://meduza.io/en/news/2019/08/23/communist-running-for-moscow-city-duma-withdraws-after-endorsement-from-barred-opposition-candidateAug 30 17:12
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scientesthe other articles on that site are really dullAug 30 17:14
XRevan86It's a news websiteAug 30 17:14
XRevan86that regularily translates news from Russia into EnglishAug 30 17:15
scientesbut every article is anti-PutinAug 30 17:15
scienteshttps://meduza.io/en/shapito/2019/08/28/ready-to-propose-in-russia-you-can-hire-a-special-ops-team-to-give-you-a-hand-and-set-up-a-fake-drug-bust-for-your-belovedAug 30 17:15
XRevan86scientes: What do you expect from a non-pro-Putin resource?Aug 30 17:15
scientesheheAug 30 17:15
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XRevan86It's one of the *more* anti-Putin websites, that is true.Aug 30 17:16
scientesI mean I prefer it to "balanced" journalismAug 30 17:16
scientesit would just be nice to have some other news in the mixAug 30 17:16
XRevan86scientes: Ah, well, they just don't bother with non-political news in English it seems.Aug 30 17:17
XRevan86mostlyAug 30 17:17
scientesthey have this one https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/08/15/295-feet-to-save-233-livesAug 30 17:17
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XRevan86There are two non-United Russia candidates left, I need to pick my favourite now.Aug 30 17:19
scientesthat doesn't sound very united /sarcasmAug 30 17:19
scientes*very united of youAug 30 17:19
XRevan86scientes: It's not very united of them either, he-heAug 30 17:21
XRevan86scientes: All United Russia candidates registered as independent this municipal election.Aug 30 17:21
scientesinterestingAug 30 17:22
scientesdid you watch O, Brother, Where Art Thou?Aug 30 17:22
XRevan86scientes: No, didn't have much time for it.Aug 30 17:22
scientesyou can even get it from my server https://git.icu/dl/O%20Brother%2C%20Where%20Art%20Thou%20%282000%29%20%5B1080p%5D/O.Brother.Where.Art.Thou.2000.1080p.BrRip.x264.YIFY.mp4Aug 30 17:22
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XRevan86scientes: No need, Shawn.Aug 30 17:23
scienteswow, that russian plane only reached 90 meters!Aug 30 17:23
scientesand still managed to landAug 30 17:23
XRevan86Bieglov's statement on debates got famousAug 30 17:27
XRevan86he said that he's the only person present who is not from a party but from the peopleAug 30 17:27
XRevan86He's of course a member. Hilarious hypocrisy.Aug 30 17:27
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schestowitz[17:15] <XRevan86> scientes: What do you expect from a non-pro-Putin resource?Aug 30 17:51
schestowitzLOLAug 30 17:51
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schestowitzdisappointingly shallow coverage https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/08/30/microsoft-exfat-linux-exfat-specification/Aug 30 18:57
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scientesschestowitz, so its in staging, but Microsoft is still spouting FUD?Aug 30 19:04
scienteswhat a load of bollucksAug 30 19:04
schestowitzsee 1) http://techrights.org/2019/08/30/the-exfat-deception/Aug 30 19:04
schestowitz2) http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/the-exfat-googlebomb/Aug 30 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Closer Look at the ‘Trojan Horse’ That is exFAT Inside Linux | TechrightsAug 30 19:04
schestowitz3) http://techrights.org/2019/07/11/microsoft-putting-patent-traps-inside-linux/Aug 30 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Wants Linux to Use exFAT for the Same Reasons it Wants Everybody to Use OOXML | TechrightsAug 30 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Putting Patent Traps Inside Linux While Blackmailing Companies Using Patents Associated With These Traps | TechrightsAug 30 19:04
schestowitz3 is a little out of dateAug 30 19:05
schestowitzin the sense that Microsoft made a statement about patentsAug 30 19:05
schestowitzit's from July anywayAug 30 19:05
schestowitzafaik, we're the only community working to refute this propaganda waveAug 30 19:06
scientesand ext4 really already wonAug 30 19:06
schestowitzon servers for sureAug 30 19:06
scientesthey are just pulling this bullshit because android means that ext4 is winning on SD cardsAug 30 19:06
schestowitzyupAug 30 19:06
scientesand now Windows looks like shit cause it can't read Android SD cardsAug 30 19:06
schestowitzthey want their OEM patent taxAug 30 19:06
schestowitzF2FS scares themAug 30 19:06
scientesthe tax is irreleventAug 30 19:06
schestowitzthey want to kill it asapAug 30 19:07
scientesext4 means they are already pretty deadAug 30 19:07
schestowitzbtwAug 30 19:07
schestowitzsee (3) aboveAug 30 19:07
schestowitzsee the part about Ted TsoAug 30 19:07
schestowitzhe strongly opposes thisAug 30 19:07
schestowitzciting patent attacksAug 30 19:07
schestowitzthe media doesn't careAug 30 19:07
schestowitzthey just repeat, copypasta of Microsoft claimsAug 30 19:07
psydroidon that Dutch forum some people say ext2 is simpler and good enough, but there is no reason not to go with ext4 nowadaysAug 30 19:07
psydroidit has excellent performance on my Orange Pi, why should I go with something else?Aug 30 19:08
scientespsydroid, you can also do ext4 without journalingAug 30 19:08
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schestowitzreiser will kill ext4Aug 30 19:09
schestowitzout of prison soonAug 30 19:09
psydroidscientes, yes, that's exactly the thing that I don't understand about their reasoning, I tried ext2 once and it ate my partition so I used ext3 insteadAug 30 19:09
schestowitzlooking to make up for 'lost time'Aug 30 19:09
psydroidlolAug 30 19:09
schestowitzreisterfs4 bear ext4 to the 4Aug 30 19:10
schestowitz*beatAug 30 19:10
schestowitzcp -r /home/nana /home/hansAug 30 19:10
schestowitz*nina evenAug 30 19:10
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DaemonFC[m]You can just use Ext4 without a journal if you really want to.Aug 30 19:19
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft ggiving the OIN an irrevocable patent license on exFAT is better than nothing, if we assume that exFAT is an unavoidable industry standard.Aug 30 19:21
DaemonFC[m]The timing is impeccable.Aug 30 19:24
DaemonFC[m]After they got their money from Foxconn, they did it.Aug 30 19:24
DaemonFC[m]Well, Foxconn makes pretty much all of the consumer devices out there, really, if you think about it, or a good percentage of the content of them.Aug 30 19:25
scientes> Meanwhile, Yandex founder and CEO Arkady Volozh, a citizen of Russia and MaltaAug 30 19:25
scientes....because he bought Malta citizenship of course...Aug 30 19:25
DaemonFC[m]The exFAT situation, in technical terms only, on GNU/Linux right now is terrible.Aug 30 19:26
DaemonFC[m]You basically have your choice between no support at all or a FUSE module that often shits on your data and then nothing can repair it.Aug 30 19:26
DaemonFC[m]If you store anything on exFAT and try to use it with your GNU/Linux machines then I really hope you have a backup. Aug 30 19:27
DaemonFC[m]Because it'll probably work fine for a while and then either the file system won't mount or the reads/writes will become unbearably slow and start hogging an entire CPU core.Aug 30 19:27
DaemonFC[m]It seems that exFAT file systems do not age well when created with and/or accessed with exfat-fuse.Aug 30 19:28
DaemonFC[m]Apple has working exFAT support, but their NTFS support isn't very good, so many articles recommend exFAT as a way to make your portable hard drive "universally compatible".Aug 30 19:31
DaemonFC[m]But Apple paid Microsoft to use the exFAT patents and gain the technical specs so that they would know exactly how to implement the file system.Aug 30 19:32
DaemonFC[m]It's possible to reverse engineer the file system, but without the technical specifications, the author of the FUSE driver obviously got some things wrong, and the fsck utility can tell you that errors exist, but can't do anything about them.Aug 30 19:33
DaemonFC[m]Eventually, you will need access to a Windows machine to repair the file system if you use exFAT.Aug 30 19:33
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MinceR> also free software looks more and more like a battle zoneAug 30 19:41
MinceRthat's because the suits have arrivedAug 30 19:42
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schestowitzand they dress up for itAug 30 19:45
schestowitzit's a legal warAug 30 19:45
schestowitzlawyers and molesAug 30 19:46
scientesMinceR, who were you quoting?Aug 30 19:50
MinceRscientes: psydroid Aug 30 19:52
scientesits insulting to people that wear suits to call them suitsAug 30 19:54
scientesmore like parasitesAug 30 19:54
MinceRhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/suit.htmlAug 30 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | suitAug 30 19:55
scientesthe irony is that suits are just clothes that made sense before plastics in New EnglandAug 30 19:55
scientesor maybe England tooAug 30 19:56
scientesand then spread to the whole damn world for some reasonAug 30 19:56
scientesthose wool jackets are really warmAug 30 19:56
MinceRi can't imagine an era when the shape of those things made senseAug 30 20:00
scienteswell they have changedAug 30 20:00
MinceR(or when the strangulation device made sense, for that matter)Aug 30 20:00
scientesthey have also gone cotton, which makes no senseAug 30 20:01
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-exFAT-Code-StagingAug 30 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Existing Linux exFAT Code Is "Horrible" But Could Soon Be In Staging - PhoronixAug 30 20:33
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Greg KH says the quality of the Samsung exFAT driver is "horrible" and that it will go into staging for now and they may just work on a completely new driver and take the Samsung one out of staging later without merging it.Aug 30 20:33
schestowitzlol, greg....Aug 30 20:33
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2008/09/18/kroah-hartman-ms-vanity/Aug 30 20:34
schestowitzUbuntu evilAug 30 20:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Greg Kroah-Hartman (Novell Hacker) Insults Ubuntu | TechrightsAug 30 20:34
schestowitzMicrosoft OKAug 30 20:34
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/08/15/professionalism-myth/Aug 30 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Myth of ‘Professionalism’ | TechrightsAug 30 20:35
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I can see two big problems right now.Aug 30 20:36
DaemonFC[m]There's barely any whitespace and it doesn't look like there are any comments at all in the code.Aug 30 20:36
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/06/29/ousting-linus-torvalds/Aug 30 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Campaign to Oust Linus Torvalds and Other Microsoft Critics at the ‘Linux’ Foundation | TechrightsAug 30 20:37
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: proprietaryAug 30 20:37
schestowitznobody sees itAug 30 20:37
schestowitzso it can be ugly :-)Aug 30 20:37
DaemonFC[m]This looks a lot like Nvidia's old NV driver.Aug 30 20:38
DaemonFC[m]Not something that should be merged into the kernel. Aug 30 20:38
DaemonFC[m]XFree86 had no standards for code quality whatsoever, and it seems like Linux doesn't either.Aug 30 20:39
schestowitzwho can say no?Aug 30 20:39
schestowitzWithout being labeled "ms hater"?Aug 30 20:39
schestowitzHater of charityAug 30 20:39
DaemonFC[m]-staging is a fig leaf for crap drivers, but it grows and grows.Aug 30 20:39
schestowitzor the philanthropy of Pearly Aug 30 20:39
DaemonFC[m]I've seen stuff get cleaned up from staging or just dropped entirely because it was garbage _and_ nobody was using it.Aug 30 20:40
DaemonFC[m]But it seems like stuff stagnates and more bad stuff gets added more often than stuff leaves.Aug 30 20:41
DaemonFC[m]The Microsoft spec does not document Transaction Safe exFAT at all.Aug 30 20:44
DaemonFC[m]"Due to the lack of support in desktop operating systems neither TFAT nor TexFAT are recommended for removable media. While the desktop OS could still read the drive, it could not use the Aug 30 20:45
DaemonFC[m]transaction-safe features, so unexpected removal or a power outage could lead to data loss. In addition, directories created under the desktop OS may not be transaction-safe even if the drive is later attached to a TFAT/TexFAT aware operating system."Aug 30 20:45
DaemonFC[m]LOLAug 30 20:45
DaemonFC[m]Why are the transaction safe features an optional profile that are only intended to work with Windows Mobile?Aug 30 20:48
DaemonFC[m]Seems like this would be useful on any system.Aug 30 20:48
XRevan86Maybe only the Mobile team at Microsoft cared.Aug 30 20:49
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MinceRi wonder if gkh's sense of quality is inverted or samsung's exFAT's drivers are even worse than kdbugsAug 30 21:02
MinceRboth options are horrifyingAug 30 21:02
DaemonFC[m]I'm getting used to horrifying options.Aug 30 21:09
MinceR:>Aug 30 21:09
DaemonFC[m]I just got another letter from the finance company.Aug 30 21:09
DaemonFC[m]They whacked me with a late fee for the car payment and are billing me for next month's too.Aug 30 21:10
DaemonFC[m]The problem for them is that I'm broke and I'm on Social Security.Aug 30 21:10
DaemonFC[m]Suing me gets them nothing.Aug 30 21:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1167528786583261187Aug 30 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: "Microsoft and its boosters spread the illusion that Microsoft is “opening up”; the reality, however, is that it’s… https://t.co/FqpbrptjHBAug 30 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: "Microsoft and its boosters spread the illusion that Microsoft is “opening up”; the reality, however, is that it’s… https://t.co/FqpbrptjHBAug 30 21:10
schestowitz""Microsoft and its boosters spread the illusion that Microsoft is “opening up”; the reality, however, is that it’s looking to tighten control over Linux while at the same time profiting from exFAT patents owing to back room deals""Aug 30 21:10
DaemonFC[m]John is on the loan for my car and he is quite vulnerable to a wage garnishment.Aug 30 21:10
DaemonFC[m]So this is really more of a problem for him.Aug 30 21:10
DaemonFC[m]Good. Fuck him. He deserves to suffer after what he did to me. Treacherous pig.Aug 30 21:10
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schestowitzwho was married?Aug 30 21:36
schestowitzyou showed some cerificate, DaemonFC[m]Aug 30 21:36
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm married.Aug 30 21:47
DaemonFC[m]Proving I could do better than John if you just gave me a month away from John.Aug 30 21:48
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, I wasn't giving myself enough credit.Aug 30 21:48
DaemonFC[m]5 years of his constant cheating and lying and trashing the apartment so I could go ahead an fucking lose all of my material possessions anyway, which were the only reason I was even still living there in the end.Aug 30 21:49
schestowitzOK, but not to JohnAug 30 21:49
schestowitzCongrats anywayAug 30 21:49
DaemonFC[m]Oh thank god no.Aug 30 21:49
DaemonFC[m]Thank you!Aug 30 21:49
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DaemonFC[m]I managed to take a wrecking ball to most of the state's case against me.Aug 30 21:49
schestowitzbrandishing a fist or a knife?Aug 30 21:50
DaemonFC[m]I fucked it up enough that they had to abandon the aggravated assault charge involving John completely.Aug 30 21:50
DaemonFC[m]And they gave up and called Luis a Disorderly Conduct.Aug 30 21:50
DaemonFC[m]I'm on 4 months of supervised probation followed by 8 months unsupervised.Aug 30 21:50
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Allegedly, a knife.Aug 30 21:50
DaemonFC[m]John was under the impression that as long as I didn't go to jail, I'd keep making the car payments.Aug 30 21:51
schestowitzbecause a fist and a knife look the same. LOLAug 30 21:51
DaemonFC[m]Luis was under the impression that if he came anywhere near that courthouse, that immigration would be there to haul him off. Aug 30 21:51
DaemonFC[m]So they started backpeddling and the prosecutor couldn't save much of his case against me.Aug 30 21:52
DaemonFC[m]And then I defaulted on the car anyway.Aug 30 21:52
schestowitzWell, he's not Slovenian, so...Aug 30 21:52
schestowitzseems US immigration policy is colour based nowAug 30 21:52
schestowitzFilipinos, Hispanics, blacks outAug 30 21:52
schestowitzBut Trump's "pussy" wives? OK.Aug 30 21:52
DaemonFC[m]Mandy is Filipino.Aug 30 21:52
schestowitzMy wife is too.Aug 30 21:53
DaemonFC[m]But he's married to me and the government would have to prove it's not legit.Aug 30 21:53
DaemonFC[m]He passed his medical exam, btw.Aug 30 21:53
DaemonFC[m]So our packet is ready, All I have to do is buy some money orders next week.Aug 30 21:53
schestowitziirc, trumpland just expelled 26 odd of themAug 30 21:53
schestowitzprobably around south calAug 30 21:53
DaemonFC[m]Well, truth be told, I could have probably kept paying on that car for some time.Aug 30 21:54
DaemonFC[m]I chose to feed John to Kia Finance and use the money to get Mandy a green card.Aug 30 21:54
DaemonFC[m]It's a twofer, and I would have lost the car anyway. Just a question of when.Aug 30 21:55
DaemonFC[m]I paid to have my mom's car fixed up a bit and I'll be "borrowing" that indefinitely.Aug 30 21:55
DaemonFC[m]The longer I kept paying on it, the less John's deficiency balance would have been.Aug 30 21:55
DaemonFC[m]He started calling everyone. My mom, my lawyer, me. The state made it illegal for me to talk to him.Aug 30 21:56
DaemonFC[m]Just as well.Aug 30 21:56
DaemonFC[m]I would have told him to eat shit and die if I could say anything to him, but silence sends the same message.Aug 30 21:56
schestowitzlolAug 30 21:58
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Just in case John did have the money to redeem the car loan somehow, I'm driving it around for a while putting miles on it and not changing the oil or washing it while the past due balance grows.Aug 30 22:02
schestowitzgoodAug 30 22:03
DaemonFC[m]Eventually, I'll call the finance company and ask them how they want to arrange to get it back.Aug 30 22:03
schestowitzreminds me why I quit drivingAug 30 22:03
schestowitzwhat a shit it isAug 30 22:03
DaemonFC[m]Eh, I just had a partial rebuild done on mom's impala.Aug 30 22:03
schestowitzMOT, petrol, repairs, insurance, health issues, purchase costs, cleaning, licensing, traffic...   arghhhhAug 30 22:04
MinceRyeah, but what hungarians call public transport is even more of a shitAug 30 22:04
DaemonFC[m]On the engine.Aug 30 22:04
MinceRand budapest is unsuitable for travel on footAug 30 22:04
schestowitzMinceR: definitely worseAug 30 22:04
schestowitzwe walk a lotAug 30 22:04
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Well, while I'm borrowing the Impala from mom, the insurance is only costing her $3 a month.Aug 30 22:04
schestowitz1.5 hours todayAug 30 22:04
DaemonFC[m]Because it's a "second car" on her policy.Aug 30 22:04
MinceRespecially in the summerAug 30 22:04
MinceRsince any plant life is considered heresy hereAug 30 22:04
MinceRwhile concrete is one of the highest sacramentsAug 30 22:04
schestowitzbudapest just had flockAug 30 22:05
MinceRshadow is another heresyAug 30 22:05
schestowitzfedora/ibm/redcrapAug 30 22:05
DaemonFC[m]It took some hail damage a few months ago and they wrote her a check for $2,000 and called it "totaled".Aug 30 22:05
DaemonFC[m]So it has a few dings, but who the fuck cares, honestly?Aug 30 22:05
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, since it's not an asset, as I don't have the title, it won't count if I have to file bankruptcy next year.Aug 30 22:05
schestowitzmadame harmon(e)Aug 30 22:05
DaemonFC[m]I think it's looking that way.Aug 30 22:06
DaemonFC[m]Six figures of debt.Aug 30 22:06
DaemonFC[m]No assets.Aug 30 22:06
schestowitzsounds typical yankie...Aug 30 22:06
schestowitzcredit card debt maxed upAug 30 22:06
schestowitzand I heard this lie last weekAug 30 22:06
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, and all it took was 4 months of having to live and fight the state over a pair of misdemeanors.Aug 30 22:07
DaemonFC[m]FUCK JOHN.Aug 30 22:07
MinceRkinkyAug 30 22:07
schestowitzthat if you don't take "credit" (i.e. debt), t'll look bad on your "file"Aug 30 22:07
schestowitz"credit report"Aug 30 22:07
DaemonFC[m]That's all I have to say. I hope Kia grabs his paycheck and won't let go.Aug 30 22:07
schestowitzas if it's better to have a borrower someone who is already deep in debt or has a history of being in minusAug 30 22:07
DaemonFC[m]Well, it's going to look real bad soon.Aug 30 22:07
DaemonFC[m]The car might have the first thing to go, but I don't believe it will be the last.Aug 30 22:07
schestowitzJabba on sale, tooAug 30 22:08
schestowitzfor meatAug 30 22:08
DaemonFC[m]Technically, that's not true either.Aug 30 22:08
DaemonFC[m]He's been dead for four years.Aug 30 22:08
schestowitzbanker: I see you got some really PHAT cat here...Aug 30 22:08
DaemonFC[m]I have two cats now.Aug 30 22:08
schestowitzthey can exhume the bodyAug 30 22:08
schestowitzif they can lift the phatty :-)Aug 30 22:08
DaemonFC[m]I took John's with me because I felt too bad for her to leave her there.Aug 30 22:09
schestowitzso now John has no pussy(cat)Aug 30 22:09
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I took his cat, cut the power and internet off on him the next day.Aug 30 22:09
DaemonFC[m]Whatever of my stuff I could carry.Aug 30 22:09
DaemonFC[m]Set a charcoal grill full of files that I didn't want to leave there on fire.Aug 30 22:10
schestowitztake the john (loo)Aug 30 22:10
schestowitzleave him shitting himselfAug 30 22:10
DaemonFC[m]He is a human toilet.Aug 30 22:10
DaemonFC[m]That's how I got into this mess.Aug 30 22:10
DaemonFC[m]His illegal immigrant grindr fuck called the cops on me.Aug 30 22:10
DaemonFC[m]And then John spilled like the Exxon-Valdez for the police department, backing up everything Luis said.Aug 30 22:11
DaemonFC[m]Then I reminded him that we co-own a car and that if I go to jail, I would have no income.Aug 30 22:11
DaemonFC[m]So, he starts telling the complete opposite story to the prosecutor.Aug 30 22:11
MinceRlolAug 30 22:11
DaemonFC[m]Along the way he said Luis was scared of court because he's an illegal immigrant.Aug 30 22:12
MinceRlolAug 30 22:12
DaemonFC[m]I said it would be a shame if someone called the local ICE field office and told them exactly where he'd be the day of my trial.Aug 30 22:12
schestowitzthey stalk courtsAug 30 22:12
schestowitzI read about it last yearAug 30 22:12
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, and the illegals know it.Aug 30 22:12
DaemonFC[m]I didn't plant the fear there.Aug 30 22:13
schestowitzthey use they record them outside courtrooms and arrest them thereAug 30 22:13
DaemonFC[m]I only expanded on it.Aug 30 22:13
schestowitzwhich is actually very controversial as it discourages participation in the legal system/processAug 30 22:13
schestowitzreducing them to rightless people, presumed without dignityAug 30 22:13
DaemonFC[m]I got them both to want nothing more to do with this and the prosecutor dropped the charge involving John and reduced the one about Luis to a Disorderly Conduct.Aug 30 22:13
DaemonFC[m]I was potentially facing $6,000 in fines, a year in jail, and a year of supervised supervision.Aug 30 22:14
DaemonFC[m]I managed to get it into a disorderly conduct (could mean anything) with a $1,300 fine and 4 months supervised/8 months unsupervised.Aug 30 22:14
DaemonFC[m]The only thing that the prosecutor had left was the threat of the charges themselves.Aug 30 22:14
DaemonFC[m]I told my lawyer, "We'd better take this before John finds out that I'm defaulting on the car either way. Do the best you can for me up there.".Aug 30 22:15
DaemonFC[m]Then I get an email on the 25th that says "Tell Kia about your experience with our automated call center!". I was like, "I didn't call Kia.".Aug 30 22:15
DaemonFC[m]Then the next day John starts blowing up everyone's phones going "Ryan! What are you doing! What's going on with the car!? You NEED to pay the car or drop it off with me!".Aug 30 22:16
DaemonFC[m]I heard the voicemail and I was like, "No. I really don't. You don't ever get to tell me what to do again.",Aug 30 22:16
schestowitzlolAug 30 22:16
schestowitznever buy things on loansAug 30 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Mom said he left one on her phone saying "This is an emergency! I need to talk to you!".Aug 30 22:17
schestowitzinstallmentsAug 30 22:17
schestowitz"arranged payments"Aug 30 22:17
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Yeah, it's an emergency, for him.".Aug 30 22:17
schestowitz"credit"Aug 30 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I should've kept the Crown Victoria.Aug 30 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Because John couldn't keep it in his pants for five minutes.Aug 30 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Always getting mugged under the L while he thought it was someone who would suck his dick.Aug 30 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Or trawling an illegal home with him.Aug 30 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Shit like that.Aug 30 22:18
schestowitztoo graphicAug 30 22:18
DaemonFC[m]He was crying to me that the first thing most people on Grindr did was block him.Aug 30 22:18
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Tells you they're smarter than I was..".Aug 30 22:18
schestowitzthe -social channel was born due to thisAug 30 22:18
MinceR:>Aug 30 22:19
schestowitz"balzac" bragging about strippers at some club he had been toAug 30 22:19
schestowitzback in the FSDaily daysAug 30 22:19
DaemonFC[m]Grindr is creepy software anyway.Aug 30 22:19
DaemonFC[m]It tells companies about your HIV status, probably does other stuff.Aug 30 22:19
schestowitzthere was a scandal about this in Singapore and US too, I thinkAug 30 22:19
schestowitzthese databases spilling outAug 30 22:20
DaemonFC[m]Some dude in New York was busted for Disorderly Conduct and Electronic Harassment because he used a Fake GPS app with Grindr to send random men to his exes house.Aug 30 22:20
DaemonFC[m]Guy had like 3-4 men showing up every day wanting sex with him.Aug 30 22:20
schestowitzthe cost of list keepingAug 30 22:20
schestowitzno flight lists and allAug 30 22:20
DaemonFC[m]I thought about it and then went "Nah, I'd be doing John a favor. He's John.".Aug 30 22:20
schestowitzyou once shared her a web page about your sex offending neighbourAug 30 22:20
DaemonFC[m]Oh yeah, it turns out creepy people are everywhere.Aug 30 22:21
DaemonFC[m]I used to work with a guy in Muncie in 2003-2004.Aug 30 22:21
DaemonFC[m]He's show up at work and start talking about having his wife pegging him while a camcorder got all of it.Aug 30 22:21
DaemonFC[m]Things like that. Just gross. Ten years later, the Muncie police raided his house and foudn a CP dungeon.Aug 30 22:22
schestowitzLOL: Aug 30 22:22
schestowitzThe Legendary OS once kicked by many big companies turns 50. The Story.Aug 30 22:23
schestowitz https://thedigitalhacker.com/2019/08/30/the-legendary-os-once-kicked-by-many-big-companies-turns-50-the-story/ #unix with TUX LOGO!?!?!?!?Aug 30 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Legendary OS once kicked by many big companies turns 50. The Story. - TheDigitalHackerAug 30 22:23
schestowitzsee logoAug 30 22:23
DaemonFC[m]Modern Linux is so far removed from UNIX that it may as well not be referenced alongside it except in a very general way.Aug 30 22:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 30/8/2019: Nvidia Linux Graphics Driver and DXVK 1.3.3 http://techrights.org/2019/08/30/dxvk-1-3-3/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/4893d615-27d2-4885-84e4-7d5a66e6c010]Aug 30 22:24
DaemonFC[m]The BSDs are more like a traditional UNIX system.Aug 30 22:24
schestowitzwhat distro are you on?Aug 30 22:25
DaemonFC[m]That having been said, the BSDs are also obscure even compared to Linux, fragmented, and not really meant to serve as desktop systems.Aug 30 22:25
DaemonFC[m]Fedora 30.Aug 30 22:25
MinceRGNU/Linux is Unix, systemd/Linux isn'tAug 30 22:25
MinceRsimple enoughAug 30 22:25
DaemonFC[m]Well, most of the distributions went the systemd way a long time ago even though some held out for a few years and tried hacking around having to include all of it.Aug 30 22:26
MinceRthat's because most of the distributions are maintained by people who have no clue what they're doingAug 30 22:26
DaemonFC[m]Upstart was probably one thing that Canonical did that should have kept on.Aug 30 22:26
DaemonFC[m]Unity was a bust and a dead end.Aug 30 22:26
MinceRupstart looks good only when compared to systemdAug 30 22:26
DaemonFC[m]And I believe Snap is the same.Aug 30 22:26
MinceRsnap is proprietaryAug 30 22:26
MinceRand canonical is a microsoft lackeyAug 30 22:27
schestowitzit's notAug 30 22:27
MinceRwhat is notAug 30 22:27
schestowitzit's used to push blobsAug 30 22:27
schestowitzit's a ramp for themAug 30 22:27
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: You mean in the sense that Upstart wasn't radically destructive to the rest of the system and really did fix some of the sysvinit problems?Aug 30 22:27
schestowitzsnapd is FOSSAug 30 22:27
MinceRafaik snap's server side is proprietaryAug 30 22:27
MinceRsnapd is a client-side daemon, isn't it?Aug 30 22:27
schestowitzbut it's like those ugly DRM things, like SteamAug 30 22:27
DaemonFC[m]Snap's server-side is very proprietary and the sandboxing doesn't actually work right without AppArmor.Aug 30 22:27
DaemonFC[m]Which most distributions don't even build, much less activate.Aug 30 22:27
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: mostly that it didn't rely on a kernel feature that doesn't work and had scopeAug 30 22:27
DaemonFC[m](Fedora uses SELinux)Aug 30 22:28
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: still, it abuses ptrace and signalsAug 30 22:28
schestowitzany links on the server side?Aug 30 22:28
MinceRfedora is garbageAug 30 22:28
DaemonFC[m]It's also well known that AppArmor isn't very useful.Aug 30 22:28
schestowitzI thought it was all free swAug 30 22:28
MinceRschestowitz: well, afaik nobody other than canonical runs the serverAug 30 22:28
schestowitztrue maybeAug 30 22:28
DaemonFC[m]No, there is no open source software that describes what a Snap server does.Aug 30 22:28
MinceRno MAC system is very useful because it's a wrong approach to securityAug 30 22:28
schestowitzbut they probably put the code somewhereAug 30 22:28
MinceRthey're trying to secure a system by slapping something extra on topAug 30 22:28
schestowitzcan you research this? Potential article topicAug 30 22:28
DaemonFC[m]So nobody but Canonical can run one, which makes an open source _client_ irrelevant.Aug 30 22:28
DaemonFC[m]Flatpak is at least FULLY open.Aug 30 22:29
MinceRschestowitz: there isn't much i can doAug 30 22:29
schestowitzany articles on this?Aug 30 22:29
MinceRi don't remember seeing anyAug 30 22:29
schestowitzWhere did you read this? A forum?Aug 30 22:29
DaemonFC[m]Snap is open source in the same way that Office 365 is open source because you can load it into Firefox.Aug 30 22:29
schestowitzsimilar concerns about their sites like bug management etc.Aug 30 22:30
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snappy_(package_manager)Aug 30 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Snappy (package manager) - WikipediaAug 30 22:30
MinceRwikipedia says it explicitlyAug 30 22:30
schestowitzthey did liberate those at the end iircAug 30 22:30
DaemonFC[m]It's very much a case of openwashing. The user really has no control over what it does and nobody can speak Snap and compete with their own store.Aug 30 22:30
MinceRthough their source for it is a competing corporationAug 30 22:30
DaemonFC[m]It operates in much the same way as Steam except that Steam is completely proprietary on both sides.Aug 30 22:30
schestowitz"GPLv3 (client), proprietary (server)"Aug 30 22:31
schestowitzWow, what shiteAug 30 22:31
DaemonFC[m]Yep, yep.Aug 30 22:31
DaemonFC[m]Flatpak is open on both sides, but you absolutely can distribute proprietary software with it. But it's no different than any other package format in that regard.Aug 30 22:31
DaemonFC[m]Skype, Opera, etc. have been distributed in DEB and RPM for some time now.Aug 30 22:31
MinceRand i wouldn't want it limited in that way anywayAug 30 22:31
DaemonFC[m]Opera is very clearly taking sides with their "Linux" port.Aug 30 22:32
MinceRin the case of a packaging system worth using, forcing proprietary software to use some inferior packaging system would only make it harder for usersAug 30 22:32
DaemonFC[m]If you click "Linux" it sends you a DEB package.Aug 30 22:32
DaemonFC[m]Even if your browser's UA just says "Linux" or actually says something like "Fedora" or "SUSE" or whatever.Aug 30 22:32
DaemonFC[m]There's a little link that's almost too tiny to see that asks if you prefer the RPM.Aug 30 22:33
DaemonFC[m]When I say too small to see, I mean I have my prescription eyeglasses ON and can barely read it.Aug 30 22:33
DaemonFC[m]It's like a size 3 font.Aug 30 22:33
MinceRwhat if i hate both?Aug 30 22:33
MinceRxonotic gets binary distribution right, and it doesn't seem all that difficult to doAug 30 22:34
DaemonFC[m]Well, there are Opera packages for other distributions.Aug 30 22:34
DaemonFC[m]But the distribution itself has generally just dumped the binaries out of the DEB or RPM package and rolled them up in some other way.Aug 30 22:34
DaemonFC[m]This has the additional downside of introducing a delay every time there's an update.Aug 30 22:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alanghsu/status/1167536408648548353Aug 30 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alanghsu: 近幾年 Microsoft 逐步對 Linux 開放它的專利技術,背後的內幕似乎不單純啊! 讀完這篇詳盡的分析,你可能就會有不同的看法。 https://t.co/fLBnPAAw4OAug 30 22:35
schestowitz"Aug 30 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Wants Linux to Use exFAT for the Same Reasons it Wants Everybody to Use OOXML | TechrightsAug 30 22:35
schestowitz近幾年 Microsoft 逐步對 Linux 開放它的專利技術,背後的內幕似乎不單純啊!Aug 30 22:35
schestowitz讀完這篇詳盡的分析,你可能就會有不同的看法。Aug 30 22:35
schestowitzTranslated from Chinese by MicrosoftAug 30 22:35
schestowitzIn recent years, Microsoft has gradually opened up its patented technology to Linux, and the inside story doesn't seem to be simple!Aug 30 22:35
schestowitzAfter reading this detailed analysis, you may have a different view.Aug 30 22:35
schestowitz"Aug 30 22:35
DaemonFC[m]Since Opera does not pay for MPEG media codecs, most HTML video sites don't work in the Linux version.Aug 30 22:35
DaemonFC[m]You can get around this in Fedora by installing the Chromium codecs freeworld package and then replacing Opera's libffmpeg.so with a symlink to the one from RPM Fusion.Aug 30 22:36
DaemonFC[m]Strangely enough it has never not worked for me, even though it's not meant to work together like this.Aug 30 22:36
DaemonFC[m]:)Aug 30 22:36
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yes, exFAT isn't a proper *nix file system.Aug 30 22:37
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't support POSIX namespace or permissions or security labels or anything.Aug 30 22:37
DaemonFC[m]It will never fully work on anything except Windows.Aug 30 22:37
DaemonFC[m]Even NTFS is better in some ways.Aug 30 22:37
schestowitzlinux chasing  rainbowsAug 30 22:40
schestowitzwhile Microsoft calls the shotsAug 30 22:40
schestowitzthat's the planAug 30 22:40
schestowitz[19:04] <schestowitz> see 1) http://techrights.org/2019/08/30/the-exfat-deception/Aug 30 22:40
schestowitz[19:04] <schestowitz> 2) http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/the-exfat-googlebomb/Aug 30 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Closer Look at the ‘Trojan Horse’ That is exFAT Inside Linux | TechrightsAug 30 22:40
schestowitz[19:04] <schestowitz> 3) http://techrights.org/2019/07/11/microsoft-putting-patent-traps-inside-linux/Aug 30 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Putting Patent Traps Inside Linux While Blackmailing Companies Using Patents Associated With These Traps | TechrightsAug 30 22:41
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DaemonFC[m]For the most part, I use Firefox.Aug 30 22:43
DaemonFC[m]Although I've been considering moving to Opera in the wake of recent events.Aug 30 22:43
DaemonFC[m]I pay for a VPN every year, and while it isn't _that_ expensive, it is $40 and it's coming up for renewal.Aug 30 22:44
DaemonFC[m]Opera has a "free" VPN built into their browser and they say it has a no-log policy.Aug 30 22:44
DaemonFC[m]I mean, it's obvious that nobody in the US should be browsing without a VPN.Aug 30 22:44
MinceRcan other applications use it?Aug 30 22:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 'Abandon Ship' on GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127570 [https://pleroma.site/objects/01af4f83-7eb0-4f8e-aef6-f891f4ee2ad0]Aug 30 22:45
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: No. When they say "VPN", it's actually an encrypted proxy server.Aug 30 22:45
schestowitzopera is chinese-owned nowAug 30 22:45
schestowitzso don't believe anything they say about privacy, their code is secret alsoAug 30 22:45
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: encrypted to their endAug 30 22:46
schestowitzbut can you trust their end?Aug 30 22:46
DaemonFC[m]The Trump admin has been even worse than Obama or Bush about onliine privacy. They attempted to send out (literally) a million or so subpeonas at once, demanding every IP address that visited an anti-Trump protest site.Aug 30 22:46
schestowitzj20Aug 30 22:46
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, that.Aug 30 22:46
schestowitzthey also  brought back the phone spying program NSA was order to indefinitely suspendAug 30 22:47
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/VmdunGFqfIHJiNDvozmZdSqF >Aug 30 22:47
DaemonFC[m]So not only is the exFAT driver 11,000 lines of shit....Aug 30 22:47
DaemonFC[m]Several thousand lines implement features that are already implemented in the existing FAT driver -or- the VFS layer of the kernel.Aug 30 22:48
DaemonFC[m]But in it goes anyway.Aug 30 22:48
schestowitzhyper-v  driver was 18k lines of shitAug 30 22:48
DaemonFC[m]It's probably faster to merge it than to actually stop for a while and try to make sense of it and to gut it of things it re-implements badly.Aug 30 22:48
schestowitzeven greg k-h (!!) complained about itAug 30 22:49
schestowitztorvalds needs to speak outAug 30 22:49
schestowitzhe won't, of courseAug 30 22:49
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, he just ho-hummed this exFAT thing even though I can see it's bad and I don't even write software.Aug 30 22:49
DaemonFC[m]I've seen examples of what readable code look like and this is far from it.Aug 30 22:49
schestowitzmedia would 'kill' him for exercising control over quality of his projectAug 30 22:49
DaemonFC[m]It's compacted. There's no explanation of anything it's doing or why.Aug 30 22:50
DaemonFC[m]There's no separation of different areas of the driver from one another.Aug 30 22:50
MinceRah, so microsoft is blackmailing linusAug 30 22:50
MinceRgreat.Aug 30 22:50
DaemonFC[m]A lot of it is in hex.Aug 30 22:50
schestowitzyou don't care when you compileAug 30 22:52
schestowitzit was proprietary, soAug 30 22:52
schestowitzand the NSA likes hexAug 30 22:52
schestowitzI wrote about 12 years ago about how hex was likely put there by the NSA for back doorsAug 30 22:52
schestowitzit helps make them harder to understand and pass off as 'oops', 'bug', 'accident'Aug 30 22:52
schestowitzMinceR: the media doesAug 30 22:53
schestowitzMicrosoft Peter and ilkAug 30 22:53
schestowitzdrpizzaAug 30 22:53
schestowitzanti-torvalds brigadeAug 30 22:53
schestowitz1) http://techrights.org/2019/06/29/ousting-linus-torvalds/Aug 30 22:53
MinceRwhat do they care if microsoft's malware gets merged into linux or not?Aug 30 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Campaign to Oust Linus Torvalds and Other Microsoft Critics at the ‘Linux’ Foundation | TechrightsAug 30 22:53
schestowitz2) http://techrights.org/2019/06/23/bill-gates-and-his-jihad/Aug 30 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Said He Was on a “Jihad” Against GNU/Linux, But GNU/Linux Users/Developers Engaged in Self-Defense Are Foul-Mouthed ‘Microsoft Haters’? | TechrightsAug 30 22:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Petty gripes about kernel versioning and tarballs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127571 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c0b71307-59c3-4381-b0ed-a51565fcf13d]Aug 30 22:58
DaemonFC[m]There is a segment of the driver that isn't even really close to being C source code.Aug 30 22:58
DaemonFC[m]I should have left that tab open.Aug 30 22:59
DaemonFC[m] /* XXX duyoung+ * what can we do here? (cuz fs_set_vol_flags() is void)+ */Aug 30 23:00
MinceRwho's "Levin"?Aug 30 23:00
DaemonFC[m]Well, there's a comment.Aug 30 23:00
DaemonFC[m]Well, that should inspire Android users with confidence.Aug 30 23:00
DaemonFC[m]Should inspire Android users with confidence that Samsung's programmers didn't know how to interpret exFAT's volume flags specification. In fairness, maybe Microsoft's specification is vague, or wrong, or.... you know what. It's a Microsoft specification. Here's your sign.Aug 30 23:03
MinceRisn't Google Play Services scary enough?Aug 30 23:03
DaemonFC[m]+/*+ * instead of copying whole sector, we will check every entry.+ * this will provide minimum stablity and consistancy.+ */Aug 30 23:04
DaemonFC[m]ACCEPTABLE TACTICAL LOSSESAug 30 23:05
DaemonFC[m]:)Aug 30 23:05
DaemonFC[m]Jesus fuck. No wonder everyone on Phoronix says this driver fucked their files.Aug 30 23:05
schestowitzwowAug 30 23:05
schestowitzlink?Aug 30 23:05
DaemonFC[m]The goal is to do a lot of redundant and expensive operations to provide "minimum" stability and consistency?Aug 30 23:06
DaemonFC[m]That's.....not god.Aug 30 23:06
schestowitzLevin is Microsoft's mole in LinuxAug 30 23:06
schestowitzGreg K-H said he can "vouch for him"Aug 30 23:06
DaemonFC[m]https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git/commit/?h=staging-next&id=c48c9f7ff32b8b3965a08e40eb6763682d905b5dAug 30 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git - Staging driver development treeAug 30 23:06
MinceRlolAug 30 23:06
MinceRi should probably move to OpenBSDAug 30 23:06
MinceRallegedly adding crap to staging doesn't matter thoughAug 30 23:08
MinceRbut i'm not sure why it's signed off thenAug 30 23:08
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/uYPysfFnDtSRjySmFtRhnrmt >Aug 30 23:08
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft added a signed-off by line on this piece of garbage.Aug 30 23:09
DaemonFC[m]I wonder if they even looked at it or just tossed that in there.Aug 30 23:09
DaemonFC[m]Same can be said for their own software though, so they aren't playing favorites.Aug 30 23:09
MinceRif microsoft even does code reviews, they're worthlessAug 30 23:11
MinceRthe only blocks of hex i see here are lookup tablesAug 30 23:13
MinceRor something of the sortAug 30 23:13
MinceRthe big thing at the end is a lookup tableAug 30 23:13
MinceRand there are 2 lists of disallowed charactersAug 30 23:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Announcing etcd 3.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127572 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d24ce493-bc31-4c48-a561-78590044479a]Aug 30 23:14
MinceRthat said, Linus should take a good look at the GET* macros if he still cares :>Aug 30 23:15
MinceRthey seem innocuous to me, but who knowsAug 30 23:16
schestowitzinnocuous Microsoft?Aug 30 23:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127573 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6cfcb2cb-1872-4c25-acbf-513ef933893b]Aug 30 23:19
MinceRinnocuous endianness-agnostic data retrieval macrosAug 30 23:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15856632Aug 30 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft code is utterly crap. No wonder it's #proprietarysoftware -- they need to hide just how ugly it is visually and functionally. What do they pay developers? Pistol to ear? https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git/commit/?h=staging-next&id=c48c9f7ff32b8b3965a08e40eb6763682d905b5dAug 30 23:22
MinceRi haven't found anything about how microsoft's media lackeys would be the blackmailers, doesn't seem to make sense to meAug 30 23:23
MinceRafter all, the media is public and blackmail is privateAug 30 23:24
schestowitzspies for the sameAug 30 23:28
schestowitzand we're told it's not happeningAug 30 23:28
schestowitzbecause nobody speaks about it. duh, that's how blackmail works, when it worksAug 30 23:28
schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.4-exFAT-Is-ComingAug 30 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Initial exFAT Driver Queued For Introduction With The Linux 5.4 Kernel - PhoronixAug 30 23:29
schestowitz Trojan horse has landedAug 30 23:29
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The police didn't even charge me with everything that I ended up facing at the station.Aug 30 23:34
DaemonFC[m]They only charged me with one count of assault. Aug 30 23:34
DaemonFC[m]Later it turned into two aggravated assaults and the one that got added was one involving John.Aug 30 23:34
DaemonFC[m]So they added charges in secret and didn't inform me until I was being arraigned.  Aug 30 23:34
DaemonFC[m]The best I could fight it back down to was similar to what I was facing to begin with before they secretely charged me with more.Aug 30 23:35
schestowitznever deal with copsAug 30 23:37
scientesplease don't link phoronixAug 30 23:37
schestowitz(if you have a choice)Aug 30 23:37
schestowitzscientes: why?Aug 30 23:37
scientesjust link lkml directlyAug 30 23:37
scientesits such horrible journalismAug 30 23:37
schestowitzah, I seeAug 30 23:37
scientesit just isn't the qualityAug 30 23:37
schestowitztheir malware in all pages it the sole issue I seeAug 30 23:38
scientesand they don't link to their sourcesAug 30 23:38
schestowitzthey usually doAug 30 23:38
schestowitzthey rarely do notAug 30 23:38
scientesthis only links to other phoernix articles https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-exFAT-Code-StagingAug 30 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Existing Linux exFAT Code Is "Horrible" But Could Soon Be In Staging - PhoronixAug 30 23:38
scientesnot the source of the quotesAug 30 23:38
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/n86bmc.jpgAug 30 23:39
schestowitzthere's no definite sourceAug 30 23:39
scientesall those quotes have a source howeverAug 30 23:39
schestowitzcanonical forms of mailing lists archivesAug 30 23:39
schestowitzit's decentralisedAug 30 23:39
scienteswell yeah gmame is downAug 30 23:39
scientesbut there are archivesAug 30 23:39
schestowitzdefinitive source for lkml don't existAug 30 23:39
schestowitzas the kernel is not centralised and the mailing list isn't on kernel.orgAug 30 23:40
scientesthat's like saying the bible doesn't have a sourceAug 30 23:40
scientesyou can still quote it and link to itAug 30 23:40
schestowitzwhich site?Aug 30 23:40
MinceRafaik the older versions of the bible aren't even knownAug 30 23:40
schestowitzthe bible has no one single siteAug 30 23:40
DaemonFC[m]As soon as I was told I was under arrest, I didn't say anythng else and invoked my right to remain silent. Aug 30 23:40
schestowitzMinceR: and they're all translations anywayAug 30 23:40
scienteshttps://lwn.net/Articles/797963/Aug 30 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/797963/ )Aug 30 23:40
DaemonFC[m]They wanted to interrogate me on video.Aug 30 23:40
scientesI guess lwn does its own mirror of lkml https://lwn.net/ml/linux-kernel/20190829103749.GA13661@infradead.org/Aug 30 23:41
scientesthat it quotesAug 30 23:41
DaemonFC[m]I told them that wouldn't be happening and that further questions could go to my attorney.Aug 30 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Re: [PATCH] staging: exfat: add exfat filesystem code to staging [LWN.net]Aug 30 23:41
schestowitzlwn and some unis tooAug 30 23:41
schestowitzUS universitiesAug 30 23:41
schestowitzit's cheap to make them, we could make one alsoAug 30 23:41
schestowitzmirroring some inbox and chaining email using some free s/wAug 30 23:41
scientesthe lwn one is completeAug 30 23:41
scientesoh yeah https://lkml.org/Aug 30 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LKML.ORG - the Linux Kernel Mailing List ArchiveAug 30 23:42
schestowitzlwn will die one dayAug 30 23:42
schestowitzit almosy died alreadyAug 30 23:42
scientesthat's the "canonical" formAug 30 23:42
schestowitzeklektic is not sustainableAug 30 23:42
scientesschestowitz, yeah buts its easy to mirrorAug 30 23:42
scientesits as sustainable as it can getAug 30 23:42
scientesthey have such a great funding modelAug 30 23:42
schestowitzit's worthless traffic to have anywayAug 30 23:42
schestowitzzemlinPAC should pay for bandwidthAug 30 23:42
*scientes subscribesAug 30 23:42
schestowitzyou end up hosting code and messages for very evil companiesAug 30 23:42
scientesthe exFAT stuff is top of lkml.orgAug 30 23:43
MinceRhttps://bnull.net/s/docker.pngAug 30 23:43
scientesschestowitz, yes I agree with thatAug 30 23:43
schestowitzI saw thatAug 30 23:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15856648Aug 30 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Examining #exFAT - published 19:43 today and authored by #linux guru #corbet https://lwn.net/Articles/797963/rss shame about the paywallAug 30 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/797963/rss )Aug 30 23:43
scienteslwn.net is very tied to the kernel community, and some of the stuff they publish is actually behind the times, because they don't keep up with compiler developmenetAug 30 23:43
schestowitz\can you send me a link for a guest?Aug 30 23:43
scientescause linux does locking wrong, without using all the fancy new atomic featuresAug 30 23:44
scientesthat C++ managed to nail down pretty wellAug 30 23:44
scientesI mean they get the assembly right, but the C++ locking is actually much betterAug 30 23:44
schestowitziirc, you can produce a linkAug 30 23:44
schestowitzwith a tokenAug 30 23:44
schestowitzfor all of us to read before the paywall is expired two thursdays from nowAug 30 23:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: Firefox 69, Firefox 70, and Firefox Nightly http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127574 [https://pleroma.site/objects/560a42c6-9d21-4d6c-9dc5-f13f8a3c3649]Aug 30 23:49
DaemonFC[m]Whoever has to maintain that exfat driver from Samsung has their work cut out.Aug 30 23:52
schestowitzscientes: is it possible?Aug 30 23:52
DaemonFC[m]Just keeping it building with the current GCC is going to be a problem.Aug 30 23:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15856771Aug 30 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #apple fires its cannons again at #gnu #gpl and #copyleft https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CUPS-2.3-ReleasedAug 30 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> CUPS 2.3 Printing System Finally Released With Licensing Change & Other Additions - PhoronixAug 30 23:52
DaemonFC[m]Samsung only open sourced what leaked several years ago.Aug 30 23:53
DaemonFC[m]It's not even their current exfat code.Aug 30 23:53
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure that, internally, someone at Samsung has documented it well enough that they know what it all does.Aug 30 23:54
DaemonFC[m]Unless they are severely disorganized, for real.Aug 30 23:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dandroidos/status/1167562884605341696Aug 30 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dandroidos: A Closer Look at the ‘Trojan Horse’ That is #exFAT Inside #Linux | Techrights https://t.co/6gzzdG3BirAug 30 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | A Closer Look at the ‘Trojan Horse’ That is exFAT Inside Linux | TechrightsAug 30 23:54

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